New Harmony Valley Special Service District Administrative Control Board Meeting

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[0:01] Okay, it looks like it's recording. Okay, if it's not, I'm going with best.
[0:16] Okay, it's at 7-7 in the date is August 26th.
[0:29] I'd like to thank you to the two of us in the United States, America, and to the Republican
[0:34] Party for which it stands.
[0:36] One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
[0:40] I'd like to make a feel for each of you.
[0:43] I'm lemon.
[0:45] I love it.
[0:46] Okay.
[0:47] And today, an attendance is Vice Chair Ryan Frisbee, member Eric Burns, Captain.
[0:58] assistant chief. assistant chief. assistant chief. I can read room right. assistant chief. assistant chief.
[1:03] Richard Carter. I'm Kathy Huckabee, the board of clerk and office manager.
[1:08] Also who will be attending is Pat Lincoln's team. He's running a few minutes late.
[1:16] Chief Banks has asked assistant chief to step in and I should do it.
[1:25] there is no members of the community.
[1:27] And
[1:33] we have to approve both the actual meeting in July and the public hearing.
[1:40] So we need two different motions.
[1:42] I make a motion that we approve the minutes from the public hearing.
[1:49] I'm sorry, we'll have to wait till Pat gets here.
[1:51] Oh, because we don't have the point.
[1:53] I thought a second.
[1:54] Okay.
[1:56] Okay.
[2:01] If you want to wait till Pat has a discussion on the Truth and Taxation, but I can talk about the EMR unless he's briefed you.
[2:12] Briefly, briefly.
[2:13] You want to brief us briefly?
[2:16] Let me grab my notes for him.
[2:18] I know we are still currently just flooding away, and if we've knocked out some of our,
[2:24] that
[2:29] we've been, you know, need to get with it, turn to getting our ambulance,
[2:32] and our inventory's correct, inventory's correct,
[2:37] anything else that you haven't had here.
[2:39] The EMR application has been submitted,
[2:44] and that's kind of a wrap on the EMR, on the response thing.
[2:49] And Jim and I met, one of the things we have to do is go over our personal files,
[2:54] and we've got those all entered now into the e-reports.
[2:58] We've setting up a with
[3:04] a medical licensing place
[3:06] under Kirschner's medical license
[3:09] that we'll be able to purchase the things that we need to purchase.
[3:12] We did find out this that there was a question about insurance
[3:19] and we ran into a glitch because Kirschner's leaving
[3:26] and we were going to operate under him but he is insured medically through the
[3:33] agency he works for. So he doesn't carry his own medical malpractice. When I talk
[3:39] to ours they said the thought of us having to license somebody and carry the
[3:47] medical malpractice is not realistic. So they suggested that we find a doctor who's
[3:53] is going to take a Kirchner's place that has his own practice and already has his medical
[3:59] malpractice.
[4:00] That will be our next hurdle and if they have their own private practice, they're carrying
[4:07] it.
[4:08] But trying to get somebody in this area, we might be looking at Dr. Reber, Reber, Reber,
[4:14] Reber.
[4:15] He's a diatrist.
[4:17] And I had mentioned to Jim to talk to the bridge, the doctor of the bridge, I'm going to town, because that might be a good thing for them to develop a little community connection and help us out as well.
[4:30] If the town doesn't stop that, I mean...
[4:33] Keep trying, I know.
[4:34] I know, they would make good neighbors too, I don't get it.
[4:37] Anyway, so that was the only other glitch.
[4:39] and we meet weekly, so it's continuing on.
[4:53] Okay, so the next one, first
[5:00] we have to start stepping up our game on drug testing
[5:03] and we also have to step up our game on that process.
[5:10] So as the process happens now, as somebody applies,
[5:13] We accept the object, accept the application, and then we send them for a drug test, we get the application, we start working them, and then we start waiting for a background.
[5:25] Thanks for visiting the other day by the way.
[5:29] Enjoying this now is Pat Flankinstein.
[5:32] So we're talking about the drug policy. Part of the drug policy, part of the licensee
[5:38] free MR is drug policy and backgrounds. So we've been trying to tighten up our game
[5:42] on both of those things, which led me to start reading the drug policy and retiping it.
[5:49] It is so labor intensive. And Jim and I sat down and looked at it. If you were to follow
[5:57] the policy is it is now Eric you would be making the appointments following up on
[6:02] the appointments telling them when to go and where they could go and that is
[6:08] all nice but it's not necessary so what we are asking the board today is to
[6:15] let Jim and I and who do you know you're right you're gonna get dragged into
[6:22] as two because of training. Look at that and just streamline it and it would look something
[6:28] more like, if somebody comes in we tell them to go get a drug test. You can go cedar or
[6:34] you can go Washington. The drug test comes back to us and I get that that they want it to
[6:40] be, the way they had it down before is they don't want it to be able to have anybody's
[6:49] And if you get too much time, they can't, but having taken one here, they really do watch.
[6:56] They're not in parole and, you know, they have all kinds of contractions where you can
[7:01] fake trying to urinate into a bottle, but they're really good about that here.
[7:07] And we are thinking that if we streamline it more to the effect that somebody applies, we
[7:15] telling them to go get the drug test, and that's what we do have to do in this entire
[7:18] time anyway.
[7:19] It comes back.
[7:20] Now, if it comes back dirty, then we have a different policy.
[7:24] But if it comes back regular, then we allow them onto the fire department, and they start
[7:28] their training portal calls, and they're doing a lot more with having trainees as versus
[7:33] fire fighters.
[7:34] And then what we would need you, Eric, is that on a regular basis, we would call somebody.
[7:41] You would give them a timeframe, but let them make their own appointment.
[7:46] And then if they don't do it within the 24 hours and they don't have a reason, then they're
[7:51] dismissed.
[7:54] And of course, you know, hey, I'm out of town, that kind of thing, but I think that we
[7:58] could make it much more user-friendly and less labor-intensive because when I was reading
[8:03] this and, you know, I'm going to bore you with the details.
[8:06] You know how you've read it?
[8:09] I'm like, if I was there, I'd say, no, because it's like a full-time job in this.
[8:15] So, back when we were actually doing the random drug testing, we really didn't follow the policy.
[8:20] I guess not everybody in number had a random number, a general broker, a generator, a generator number, I'd call you, this is the person you tell me.
[8:30] And that's fine. What we were doing made sense. What our policy, we weren't following, didn't make sense.
[8:37] So, that's basically what Jim and I are saying, is that we need to align the policy.
[8:40] We're on the policy with reality and then we're okay to go through that. We will present that next week
[8:47] Our next meeting okay
[8:50] Motion on that one
[9:28] The minutes make a motion that we approved the minutes from the public meeting and from the
[9:34] Board meeting that we got
[9:36] In July
[9:48] Okay, so we made a lot of progress. He's been working this tail on. Yeah, so we
[9:58] Don't you guys before the number of parcels it's properties properties
[10:05] I don't even know if I call it's owners it's owners
[10:08] In a minute went up to two right and went up to two and I think the reason that he says probably accurate
[10:17] More than one
[10:17] properties. So you have a person in the properties. So like one person can own
[10:24] multiple properties and they all get different letters. According to the
[10:28] property. So we like the last time we talked we talked about what the average
[10:34] market value was the percentage that it would be the amount that it would bring
[10:40] in per year. Do you have that money?
[10:46] Bottom line is we have reforms over the postcards
[10:50] ready to go. The printer has the proofs that they sent to Kathy and I two days ago. And
[10:58] it will go up to that in 2000. People, even though it's one person multiple times, but by
[11:03] All you got to know find the right person Kathy has submitted the information for the spectrum
[11:10] Yeah, and it was real it was going to run two weeks
[11:14] We have the public notice it'll run the 24th and the first what was the first something seven?
[11:22] Yes, so before so we got our public notices are done and we also have the Utah State Audit States site
[11:30] published so our notices are in compliance and we I talked to water
[11:41] board guy
[11:44] McCleary, Tom? Isn't that our water board people? Yeah about using the building
[11:50] and he said of course we could then he came back and he said you know what my
[11:55] our insurance want us to carry at one day like increase some insurance so we
[12:01] have to carry them for a day on that meeting, because it'll just be for six months.
[12:05] It doesn't cost us a thing.
[12:06] But we just add them to our intro as an additional intro.
[12:09] So if something happens or somebody trips during our meeting.
[12:13] So we got that taking care of and our insurance local government trust had that back to me within 30 minutes.
[12:22] And we got back to him. So we're good on that.
[12:25] We're in compliance with the two weeks out, a minimum two weeks on our meeting, and our
[12:35] average increase was what 96, 98, I couldn't remember.
[12:39] Because the SARS-CoV-4 here, it was just after our after-
[12:43] Yeah, it's like 194 commercial, it was like one,
[12:49] maybe so little less than that.
[12:52] I know why it's like 120, I don't know why, but one was 120, but it's right at the
[12:56] All of our per person per year and that's depend if that's on the base of a
[13:02] $760,000 home.
[13:04] Correct.
[13:05] So that's $760,000.
[13:09] It just generates what the average would be per person and that's what's on the
[13:15] notice.
[13:16] It is based on the average market value, this is what the average number will be per
[13:21] person per year based on residential or commercial.
[13:24] So those, I haven't gotten any TDM rules back, but I can't imagine that took very long.
[13:30] And our meal rate ended up at 644, and that was 0.00373, so we won it from 373, I think that
[13:41] was 337, one of those two, up to 644, which we still below 0.008, but it hurts us on grants
[13:50] because they see we're not doing our due diligence and the meeting has to be
[13:55] after six o'clock so we said it for seven and the only thing is I want to whether
[14:02] we do it away from this whether we just get together but I want to run it
[14:09] I wasn't happy one day did last time but the way I look at it there was a lot of
[14:14] from everyone on the board, not just me and Jim and you.
[14:19] To do it?
[14:20] To just kind of discuss what we're doing
[14:21] while we're doing the history.
[14:23] It was kind of like just a presentation
[14:24] in Jim and Clay kind of took over it.
[14:28] And I think what we should do is kind of
[14:31] yeah, I had a little, I think.
[14:32] You did too.
[14:33] We were doing whatever.
[14:35] Everybody had like a little.
[14:36] So my point is, and I think I talked to you about this,
[14:38] is I don't want to reinvent the wheel.
[14:40] I have the presentation that Clay did.
[14:41] It's fantastic.
[14:42] I don't want to plagiarize it.
[14:43] I don't want to obviously get put on our own adjustments that we've realized since the last time.
[14:49] But the gameplay, I think, still is the same, if that works for me.
[14:54] And I can actually once I'm done with the presentation.
[14:58] I think we really need to hit the fact.
[15:00] What we didn't bring home last time was, yes, because it shows on there that the increase is a percentage and on our, I can't remember what was, but it last year was like 50, it was an increase of 50%. This one's higher. This one's higher. This one's like 67. And that's what they got stuck on in the argument. But if we could bring it back around to a couple things is that it's $100 a year. It's so many, and make that a big part.
[15:29] And it's, you know, a cup of coffee, and this is what we're going to be.
[15:35] Well, here's the other thing that is always stuck.
[15:37] And the big point for me is that we asked you to show us
[15:42] where we were in the red and a lot of things and why.
[15:46] And that really hit home for us, why we wanted to raise that budget
[15:50] so that we don't have those shortfalls next time.
[15:53] So it's the longest I can show what we had going before,
[15:56] what it is now, what the projection is moving forward. I think that's a really easy way to say it.
[16:01] And we don't have anything...
[16:03] The most effort, or not.
[16:04] No, in contingency for any of these equipment that's...
[16:08] And the ISO is a big thing.
[16:11] Yeah, and that?
[16:15] Yeah, you know what? You could even have...
[16:18] If you were wanting to, we could have...
[16:22] Dominic?
[16:22] You know, that's probably not a bad idea.
[16:25] If I can explain that so that I make my way through it, but that guy hadn't downed pretty solid.
[16:30] And maybe that's what they need to hear.
[16:32] He has related directly to their fire insurance.
[16:35] So let me even shorten it a little bit.
[16:38] Let me take her with what he had a little bit more and see where I can fit in the ISO presentation
[16:43] if we can get a hold of him.
[16:45] I think for them to realize that there's a rating here insurance based on that rating.
[16:50] This is what we're rated on.
[16:52] This is why the taxes are going up, so we can do this, this is an S, top of the budget thing, really good, it's pretty solid.
[16:58] Yeah, I don't think we should even mention the percentage increase. Well, that's on the actual no-cards.
[17:05] Oh, it says what the percent will be available.
[17:07] At that point, 0, 0, 3, that one's not on there, it's actually the percentage.
[17:12] It says point. This is what it was. So your taxes was at a mill rate at 0, 0, 0, 3, 7. This is what you paid.
[17:20] This is what the new meal rate, this is what it is and this is the percentage.
[17:24] This is the percentage increase?
[17:25] Yeah, because you hear about these cities that like,
[17:29] all the raising property taxes is 187 percent,
[17:32] but they don't say is that they were really low.
[17:35] And that's really where we are.
[17:37] So they were really low for it.
[17:38] So that's why we need to explain that percentage.
[17:42] We didn't do a good job on that last time.
[17:45] And what it basically, yeah.
[17:46] And that's it wasn't that percentage. I'm sure it's required by law. You've got to have it on the
[17:50] floor and that's why it's there and that's and that's why it's there and it's and I think that's one area where we didn't
[17:58] think that we were going to get hit that much because you know you kind of looked at it's easy to say hey you
[18:02] paid $10 now and you're paying $12 to date it's two dollars but if you have a percentage that says 50%
[18:09] then we need to bring that home that that 50% is less you know a hundred bucks a year and it's only about
[18:16] eight dollars a month. Well, I think the other part that we need to really press
[18:20] home is they're going to say you just did this order and we need to press home
[18:24] that we just did it last time to pay for the fire truck and nothing else. That's
[18:30] right. There's no extra money in the budget for anything else. That was strictly
[18:34] the pay for. Well, and it's it's it's because I don't know people it's like they
[18:39] need to understand that the fire truck is that the new fire engine is
[18:43] part for future. It's also, it was also required to maintain the ISO rating we have right now.
[18:48] So absent that, our ISO rating would go on to probably seven or eight.
[18:52] In fact, it would not have had an engine in town. Right.
[18:57] You know, we cheated this system last time because we borrowed an S-Tex engine,
[19:01] but that engine was not going to be borrowed forever.
[19:04] And so we had to make plans to do that to preserve your ability to get insurance.
[19:11] May I make a suggestion that we use the next meeting in September to go through a run through of this and can we do that by then?
[19:20] What date is that?
[19:24] We can this any day we want to make it.
[19:26] When is the Tuesday?
[19:28] It's the 17th of October.
[19:30] Thank you.
[19:31] I'm especially good that I'm my calendar.
[19:34] So the next one is the third Wednesday, right?
[19:37] The 16th.
[19:38] Yes.
[19:40] That's quick.
[19:41] You want to make it the 23rd?
[19:43] If we could.
[19:44] If there was a case of that, there were only reasons.
[19:46] And then maybe then some more people can go.
[19:49] Because that's tied for me.
[19:50] Do I got weddings that weekend?
[19:52] 23rds.
[19:52] I know if we had a, if we had a kind of a quick, if
[20:03] we had a quick
[20:04] analysis of a budget,
[20:09] a time frame, just a quick slide.
[20:12] Yeah, that's hard to what I was talking about was what Kathy did about two or three meetings ago, where we showed the projections were pretty easy to just throw up a comparison and say, you know, they presented an increase, which is $98, you know, it's $10 a month, covers dashes.
[20:29] Yeah, right. That's what I remember is all the ones that were in the red were the ones that we were talking about.
[20:36] We can find a way to get ahead of this point and take slides to have two slides.
[20:39] We're not dwelling on it forever, but it's a quick hit point to where this is what it cost us.
[20:44] This is what it cost us now.
[20:45] What our budget wasn't.
[20:47] At the beginning of the year, how we had to adjust it.
[20:49] It might have been pushed back, but they have to show the percentage.
[20:51] We had to show the percentage for the last ten years.
[20:53] Zero.
[20:54] Zero.
[20:54] Zero.
[20:55] Zero.
[20:55] You know?
[20:57] It gives the emergency ever rolling back.
[20:59] It's like this is the adjustments of the last ten years.
[21:01] This is why we're trying to make it up.
[21:02] If you guys don't mind.
[21:05] She'd be those bullet points in an email so that I don't forget these.
[21:08] Okay.
[21:09] I don't know, because they're good ideas.
[21:11] The things we've talked about by one, make sure we hit these so.
[21:15] We deliver my data.
[21:16] I otherwise, I feel like I'm going to miss something.
[21:18] We see it every day in life that people are going to be thinking about.
[21:21] So through this, right?
[21:23] Well, next to the errors point, you know, I think we did that home.
[21:26] So one of them was that we have the side-by-side comparison of the budget.
[21:31] Right?
[21:31] Yes.
[21:31] And then the percentages in the past and
[21:40] the expletational zeros, why we're back at it in Oregon.
[21:45] And last year's was for the fire engine only.
[21:54] The ISO.
[21:55] And the ISO, that's a good one.
[21:57] Someone else suggested that we looked at other comparable departments and see what they're like.
[22:02] The ISO think you have that.
[22:04] Do you remember?
[22:05] Yeah, but he doesn't have.
[22:06] Does he have the mill rate?
[22:07] each one's with. Oh no. Yeah. To look at the other comparisons for lighting.
[22:12] For their comparable. Right. He had the ISO ratings. Yeah.
[22:16] But not the meal rate. Right. And if we looked at other apartments to have the same,
[22:21] it's comparable to us to see what their meal rate is and see if they're below or above us.
[22:27] Jim said that he might be able to get an interesting fact there.
[22:31] Well, what I'm saying is that what the comparables are around here.
[22:34] Yeah, Apple Valley might be one and really it would be wise as soon as they're
[22:42] comparable as fire districts and how, you know, there could be fun and from
[22:45] other sources but like Hurricane, like Frank, because we leave, this is going to
[22:51] get seated to Hurricane almost, almost assuredly. And what would the, what would
[22:56] the theoretical change be if we were, if everybody up here was on Hurricane's
[23:00] plan. Yeah. Yeah. Are they funded by the mill rate or are they? I don't know. I think they're
[23:07] largely funded by their by taxation. I don't know if specifically the mill rate or whether they've
[23:13] got because they're not a special services system. So they're they're sourcing their incomes
[23:18] come from general and general property tax like I can find out.
[23:24] They have a mill I think they
[23:26] have a mill rate too but they also are getting money through that proposition that Dominic talked
[23:32] talked about how they get money from the businesses in?
[23:38] Tourist budgets.
[23:40] Which obviously we don't have.
[23:41] We don't get any of that.
[23:43] Unless there was a way to get into some science,
[23:47] because they're in our district.
[23:49] But you know, is that good for right now?
[23:52] We'll do it last year on the 23rd.
[23:55] So do you guys want to try and move the meeting?
[23:57] I'll give it to everybody else to the 23rd.
[23:59] So we have more time.
[24:01] So we have the side by side budget, the past percentage increase.
[24:07] Last year's engine was only, or last time's engine was only, the engine was only for that increase itself.
[24:14] And ISO rating and compared the mail rates, explain the percentage was versed 100 bucks.
[24:32] Anything else that we were talking about? So do you just give that list to you?
[24:39] think that's all we're out right now.
[24:41] So we're really on good, because they're probably going to send out those notices in the
[24:45] next week or so.
[24:46] Yeah, so get ready.
[24:48] Your phone's going to start ringing air.
[24:49] Oh, I'm sorry.
[24:51] I know.
[24:52] I'm sorry.
[24:54] Your other job causes everybody to call you.
[24:58] That's all I have on that.
[25:00] I was looking at, I was looking through to see and you couldn't help but notice which people
[25:06] you know we're going to do a lot so I was kind of looking to see it's about a hundred bucks
[25:15] it's across the board. Move this out if you don't like it. Move to the pie.
[25:22] Now it's like you want it? Eris, please,
[25:30] please, please. You're welcome.
[25:32] Keep me out, please, right? It's the worst love wasn't it? Recall this hall, right?
[25:39] I know I could make more money to have Travis Larson conspiring with that chair person.
[25:46] I honestly that's the only thing I've worked on lately since the last week.
[25:51] Do you have Jim's report?
[25:56] That was basically the extension before the only other report.
[25:58] The other other thing Jim has report is that the chief's truck,
[26:02] which is currently sitting out the back there, is done.
[26:08] is done, it's likely not, it doesn't make sense to try and repair it.
[26:12] That's good, but this way, we're paying $2700 for a transmission that didn't fix because
[26:19] the set in their yard, they couldn't fix it.
[26:22] So it's what they did to try to fix it.
[26:26] And at this point, if we don't have a command vehicle, or we bind it, that's part of it.
[26:32] They're into it for, I think the number they came up with was the dealer came up with
[26:36] to replace the transmission was like $6,700, $1,600, $1,600, which is about what the truck is worth.
[26:45] Oh, good.
[26:47] So, Joy.
[26:49] So that's another reason we can add is that that vehicle is done.
[26:54] And we don't have the funds to make that payment, which we're going to have to do, because that's one of the things we use all the time.
[27:00] Isn't that great?
[27:01] Yes, and it's actually, Jim obviously right now is driving the, he's driving our Hummer,
[27:06] which is fine for the most part, it's more complex because like the call I went on today,
[27:11] I had to take the big, the Tech 3 brush track, because, and normally I would take the Hummer,
[27:16] and the Tech 3 is not as much, it's not as, it's not as ideal to drive as a single person,
[27:21] whereas the Hummer is a little bit more manageable as a single person, so, you know, it's just
[27:26] the way it is, it's what we got,
[27:32] and that's about the extent of what he had to say, if he
[27:39] So the Washington County is putting on this board training that if you're available,
[27:46] you and I at minimum should go and it actually satisfies for a couple of things but it also
[27:52] brings us up to their auditing practices.
[27:55] Plain I went last time and it was really good training.
[27:58] If you guys have that are able to go, it's quick, it's easy, it's understandable and they did a really good job last time.
[28:08] I think they had Scott overreach who's our actual auditor there and you have any kind of questions that I answered and it satisfies a lot of our online stuff that we flunked past here.
[28:22] I said I'd be able to be there, but I'll be coming back from Vegas on that day, or that day, so I should be able to do it online, so I don't have to.
[28:35] Here you go. But then, so this will have different ones, but I'm going and I don't want to, but I will
[28:48] let me know, because I have to give an RSVP.
[28:56] Okay, so we'll put three and I'm going to get Scott and they should go because they haven't
[29:01] ever been to one and it's for new members too, so I will give them a call and see if we can get them to go to.
[29:12] Yeah, that's mostly for me for the grammar records.
[29:23] Prokaryly, so I know they're
[29:32] working on the Apple Festival.
[29:33] Are you going to be the Apple Festival people too?
[29:35] I can be the Apple Festival.
[29:36] Okay, where we're going to have a festival. It's going to be on the on 145 east or whatever it is. It's the street that's kind of
[29:49] Across the street from the fire station ish. There one that runs down. We're really smart. It's a lane. Oh yeah, so it's like a main road. No, no, it's going to be the last
[30:00] I think that's the kind of look of that said, it's more whether resistant. It keeps the
[30:06] hand a little happier because there's not a lot of all the trotting on top of the park and it makes
[30:13] getting in and out a lot easier so it gives us more parking options and hopefully we'll improve the traffic.
[30:20] That's what we're at. And it cuts down our vendors slightly but the town has been asking us to not make
[30:26] the event any larger and so we've got a few less vendors we are dealing food
[30:31] trucks this year because it's just cooking every year the same for people
[30:38] every year begins to become a grind so we'll probably do that for a couple
[30:42] years and tell people to complain and then we'll see if we can complain to
[30:47] complain them into volunteering and then we'll do that for the good
[30:51] We've got for a couple of years.
[30:52] So, you know, make sure to beast it.
[30:56] That's what we had.
[30:57] That's our primary thing right now.
[30:59] We're about half sold out right now.
[31:00] A little over half sold out.
[31:01] Is that good?
[31:02] Yeah.
[31:03] As soon as we post upon, on Facebook that we're having the event,
[31:07] we usually start with, we usually start a little bit about a month before.
[31:10] We'll fill up in three days.
[31:21] think we're efficient.
[31:27] Can I make a motion of the nature?
[31:29] I'll say.
[31:29] in the time of 738.
[31:32] Awesome.
[31:35] Okay.
[31:38] Okay.
[31:42] You should have slept.
[31:43] Do you have technically done?
[31:46] You're ready to be done?
[31:47] I don't know.
[31:47] I'll call the address.
[31:48] I'll read it.
[31:49] He blew his knee out.
[31:51] Also, I'll go to the right and right.
[31:53] Okay.
[31:55] Did you find any place to do it?
[31:56] Yeah.
[31:57] Up here.
[31:58] The hospital?
[31:58] Yeah.
[31:59] After all those.
[31:59] This hospital?
[32:00] This is so far.
[32:03] We've tried to send in three different places.
[32:04] One in the back.
[32:12] Let's start on your back here, did
[32:20] you turn this off?
[32:22] So even if I'm off.