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Okay, it looks like it's recording. Okay, if it's not, I'm going with best.
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Okay, it's at 7-7 in the date is August 26th.
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I'd like to thank you to the two of us in the United States, America, and to the Republican
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Party for which it stands.
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One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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I'd like to make a feel for each of you.
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I'm lemon.
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I love it.
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Okay.
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And today, an attendance is Vice Chair Ryan Frisbee, member Eric Burns, Captain.
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assistant chief. assistant chief. assistant chief. I can read room right. assistant chief. assistant chief.
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Richard Carter. I'm Kathy Huckabee, the board of clerk and office manager.
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Also who will be attending is Pat Lincoln's team. He's running a few minutes late.
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Chief Banks has asked assistant chief to step in and I should do it.
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there is no members of the community.
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And
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we have to approve both the actual meeting in July and the public hearing.
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So we need two different motions.
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I make a motion that we approve the minutes from the public hearing.
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I'm sorry, we'll have to wait till Pat gets here.
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Oh, because we don't have the point.
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I thought a second.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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If you want to wait till Pat has a discussion on the Truth and Taxation, but I can talk about the EMR unless he's briefed you.
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Briefly, briefly.
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You want to brief us briefly?
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Let me grab my notes for him.
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I know we are still currently just flooding away, and if we've knocked out some of our,
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that
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we've been, you know, need to get with it, turn to getting our ambulance,
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and our inventory's correct, inventory's correct,
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anything else that you haven't had here.
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The EMR application has been submitted,
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and that's kind of a wrap on the EMR, on the response thing.
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And Jim and I met, one of the things we have to do is go over our personal files,
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and we've got those all entered now into the e-reports.
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We've setting up a with
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a medical licensing place
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under Kirschner's medical license
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that we'll be able to purchase the things that we need to purchase.
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We did find out this that there was a question about insurance
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and we ran into a glitch because Kirschner's leaving
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and we were going to operate under him but he is insured medically through the
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agency he works for. So he doesn't carry his own medical malpractice. When I talk
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to ours they said the thought of us having to license somebody and carry the
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medical malpractice is not realistic. So they suggested that we find a doctor who's
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is going to take a Kirchner's place that has his own practice and already has his medical
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malpractice.
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That will be our next hurdle and if they have their own private practice, they're carrying
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it.
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But trying to get somebody in this area, we might be looking at Dr. Reber, Reber, Reber,
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Reber.
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He's a diatrist.
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And I had mentioned to Jim to talk to the bridge, the doctor of the bridge, I'm going to town, because that might be a good thing for them to develop a little community connection and help us out as well.
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If the town doesn't stop that, I mean...
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Keep trying, I know.
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I know, they would make good neighbors too, I don't get it.
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Anyway, so that was the only other glitch.
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and we meet weekly, so it's continuing on.
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Okay, so the next one, first
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we have to start stepping up our game on drug testing
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and we also have to step up our game on that process.
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So as the process happens now, as somebody applies,
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We accept the object, accept the application, and then we send them for a drug test, we get the application, we start working them, and then we start waiting for a background.
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Thanks for visiting the other day by the way.
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Enjoying this now is Pat Flankinstein.
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So we're talking about the drug policy. Part of the drug policy, part of the licensee
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free MR is drug policy and backgrounds. So we've been trying to tighten up our game
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on both of those things, which led me to start reading the drug policy and retiping it.
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It is so labor intensive. And Jim and I sat down and looked at it. If you were to follow
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the policy is it is now Eric you would be making the appointments following up on
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the appointments telling them when to go and where they could go and that is
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all nice but it's not necessary so what we are asking the board today is to
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let Jim and I and who do you know you're right you're gonna get dragged into
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as two because of training. Look at that and just streamline it and it would look something
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more like, if somebody comes in we tell them to go get a drug test. You can go cedar or
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you can go Washington. The drug test comes back to us and I get that that they want it to
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be, the way they had it down before is they don't want it to be able to have anybody's
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And if you get too much time, they can't, but having taken one here, they really do watch.
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They're not in parole and, you know, they have all kinds of contractions where you can
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fake trying to urinate into a bottle, but they're really good about that here.
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And we are thinking that if we streamline it more to the effect that somebody applies, we
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telling them to go get the drug test, and that's what we do have to do in this entire
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time anyway.
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It comes back.
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Now, if it comes back dirty, then we have a different policy.
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But if it comes back regular, then we allow them onto the fire department, and they start
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their training portal calls, and they're doing a lot more with having trainees as versus
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fire fighters.
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And then what we would need you, Eric, is that on a regular basis, we would call somebody.
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You would give them a timeframe, but let them make their own appointment.
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And then if they don't do it within the 24 hours and they don't have a reason, then they're
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dismissed.
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And of course, you know, hey, I'm out of town, that kind of thing, but I think that we
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could make it much more user-friendly and less labor-intensive because when I was reading
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this and, you know, I'm going to bore you with the details.
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You know how you've read it?
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I'm like, if I was there, I'd say, no, because it's like a full-time job in this.
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So, back when we were actually doing the random drug testing, we really didn't follow the policy.
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I guess not everybody in number had a random number, a general broker, a generator, a generator number, I'd call you, this is the person you tell me.
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And that's fine. What we were doing made sense. What our policy, we weren't following, didn't make sense.
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So, that's basically what Jim and I are saying, is that we need to align the policy.
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We're on the policy with reality and then we're okay to go through that. We will present that next week
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Our next meeting okay
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Motion on that one
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The minutes make a motion that we approved the minutes from the public meeting and from the
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Board meeting that we got
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In July
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Okay, so we made a lot of progress. He's been working this tail on. Yeah, so we
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Don't you guys before the number of parcels it's properties properties
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I don't even know if I call it's owners it's owners
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In a minute went up to two right and went up to two and I think the reason that he says probably accurate
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More than one
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properties. So you have a person in the properties. So like one person can own
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multiple properties and they all get different letters. According to the
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property. So we like the last time we talked we talked about what the average
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market value was the percentage that it would be the amount that it would bring
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in per year. Do you have that money?
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Bottom line is we have reforms over the postcards
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ready to go. The printer has the proofs that they sent to Kathy and I two days ago. And
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it will go up to that in 2000. People, even though it's one person multiple times, but by
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All you got to know find the right person Kathy has submitted the information for the spectrum
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Yeah, and it was real it was going to run two weeks
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We have the public notice it'll run the 24th and the first what was the first something seven?
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Yes, so before so we got our public notices are done and we also have the Utah State Audit States site
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published so our notices are in compliance and we I talked to water
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board guy
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McCleary, Tom? Isn't that our water board people? Yeah about using the building
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and he said of course we could then he came back and he said you know what my
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our insurance want us to carry at one day like increase some insurance so we
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have to carry them for a day on that meeting, because it'll just be for six months.
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It doesn't cost us a thing.
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But we just add them to our intro as an additional intro.
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So if something happens or somebody trips during our meeting.
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So we got that taking care of and our insurance local government trust had that back to me within 30 minutes.
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And we got back to him. So we're good on that.
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We're in compliance with the two weeks out, a minimum two weeks on our meeting, and our
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average increase was what 96, 98, I couldn't remember.
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Because the SARS-CoV-4 here, it was just after our after-
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Yeah, it's like 194 commercial, it was like one,
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maybe so little less than that.
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I know why it's like 120, I don't know why, but one was 120, but it's right at the
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All of our per person per year and that's depend if that's on the base of a
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$760,000 home.
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Correct.
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So that's $760,000.
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It just generates what the average would be per person and that's what's on the
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notice.
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It is based on the average market value, this is what the average number will be per
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person per year based on residential or commercial.
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So those, I haven't gotten any TDM rules back, but I can't imagine that took very long.
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And our meal rate ended up at 644, and that was 0.00373, so we won it from 373, I think that
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was 337, one of those two, up to 644, which we still below 0.008, but it hurts us on grants
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because they see we're not doing our due diligence and the meeting has to be
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after six o'clock so we said it for seven and the only thing is I want to whether
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we do it away from this whether we just get together but I want to run it
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I wasn't happy one day did last time but the way I look at it there was a lot of
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from everyone on the board, not just me and Jim and you.
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To do it?
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To just kind of discuss what we're doing
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while we're doing the history.
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It was kind of like just a presentation
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in Jim and Clay kind of took over it.
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And I think what we should do is kind of
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yeah, I had a little, I think.
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You did too.
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We were doing whatever.
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Everybody had like a little.
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So my point is, and I think I talked to you about this,
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is I don't want to reinvent the wheel.
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I have the presentation that Clay did.
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It's fantastic.
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I don't want to plagiarize it.
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I don't want to obviously get put on our own adjustments that we've realized since the last time.
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But the gameplay, I think, still is the same, if that works for me.
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And I can actually once I'm done with the presentation.
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I think we really need to hit the fact.
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What we didn't bring home last time was, yes, because it shows on there that the increase is a percentage and on our, I can't remember what was, but it last year was like 50, it was an increase of 50%. This one's higher. This one's higher. This one's like 67. And that's what they got stuck on in the argument. But if we could bring it back around to a couple things is that it's $100 a year. It's so many, and make that a big part.
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And it's, you know, a cup of coffee, and this is what we're going to be.
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Well, here's the other thing that is always stuck.
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And the big point for me is that we asked you to show us
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where we were in the red and a lot of things and why.
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And that really hit home for us, why we wanted to raise that budget
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so that we don't have those shortfalls next time.
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So it's the longest I can show what we had going before,
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what it is now, what the projection is moving forward. I think that's a really easy way to say it.
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And we don't have anything...
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The most effort, or not.
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No, in contingency for any of these equipment that's...
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And the ISO is a big thing.
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Yeah, and that?
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Yeah, you know what? You could even have...
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If you were wanting to, we could have...
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Dominic?
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You know, that's probably not a bad idea.
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If I can explain that so that I make my way through it, but that guy hadn't downed pretty solid.
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And maybe that's what they need to hear.
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He has related directly to their fire insurance.
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So let me even shorten it a little bit.
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Let me take her with what he had a little bit more and see where I can fit in the ISO presentation
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if we can get a hold of him.
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I think for them to realize that there's a rating here insurance based on that rating.
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This is what we're rated on.
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This is why the taxes are going up, so we can do this, this is an S, top of the budget thing, really good, it's pretty solid.
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Yeah, I don't think we should even mention the percentage increase. Well, that's on the actual no-cards.
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Oh, it says what the percent will be available.
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At that point, 0, 0, 3, that one's not on there, it's actually the percentage.
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It says point. This is what it was. So your taxes was at a mill rate at 0, 0, 0, 3, 7. This is what you paid.
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This is what the new meal rate, this is what it is and this is the percentage.
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This is the percentage increase?
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Yeah, because you hear about these cities that like,
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all the raising property taxes is 187 percent,
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but they don't say is that they were really low.
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And that's really where we are.
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So they were really low for it.
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So that's why we need to explain that percentage.
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We didn't do a good job on that last time.
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And what it basically, yeah.
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And that's it wasn't that percentage. I'm sure it's required by law. You've got to have it on the
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floor and that's why it's there and that's and that's why it's there and it's and I think that's one area where we didn't
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think that we were going to get hit that much because you know you kind of looked at it's easy to say hey you
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paid $10 now and you're paying $12 to date it's two dollars but if you have a percentage that says 50%
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then we need to bring that home that that 50% is less you know a hundred bucks a year and it's only about
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eight dollars a month. Well, I think the other part that we need to really press
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home is they're going to say you just did this order and we need to press home
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that we just did it last time to pay for the fire truck and nothing else. That's
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right. There's no extra money in the budget for anything else. That was strictly
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the pay for. Well, and it's it's it's because I don't know people it's like they
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need to understand that the fire truck is that the new fire engine is
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part for future. It's also, it was also required to maintain the ISO rating we have right now.
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So absent that, our ISO rating would go on to probably seven or eight.
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In fact, it would not have had an engine in town. Right.
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You know, we cheated this system last time because we borrowed an S-Tex engine,
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but that engine was not going to be borrowed forever.
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And so we had to make plans to do that to preserve your ability to get insurance.
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May I make a suggestion that we use the next meeting in September to go through a run through of this and can we do that by then?
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What date is that?
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We can this any day we want to make it.
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When is the Tuesday?
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It's the 17th of October.
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Thank you.
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I'm especially good that I'm my calendar.
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So the next one is the third Wednesday, right?
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The 16th.
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Yes.
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That's quick.
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You want to make it the 23rd?
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If we could.
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If there was a case of that, there were only reasons.
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And then maybe then some more people can go.
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Because that's tied for me.
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Do I got weddings that weekend?
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23rds.
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I know if we had a, if we had a kind of a quick, if
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we had a quick
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analysis of a budget,
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a time frame, just a quick slide.
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Yeah, that's hard to what I was talking about was what Kathy did about two or three meetings ago, where we showed the projections were pretty easy to just throw up a comparison and say, you know, they presented an increase, which is $98, you know, it's $10 a month, covers dashes.
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Yeah, right. That's what I remember is all the ones that were in the red were the ones that we were talking about.
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We can find a way to get ahead of this point and take slides to have two slides.
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We're not dwelling on it forever, but it's a quick hit point to where this is what it cost us.
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This is what it cost us now.
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What our budget wasn't.
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At the beginning of the year, how we had to adjust it.
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It might have been pushed back, but they have to show the percentage.
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We had to show the percentage for the last ten years.
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Zero.
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Zero.
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Zero.
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Zero.
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You know?
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It gives the emergency ever rolling back.
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It's like this is the adjustments of the last ten years.
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This is why we're trying to make it up.
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If you guys don't mind.
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She'd be those bullet points in an email so that I don't forget these.
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Okay.
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I don't know, because they're good ideas.
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The things we've talked about by one, make sure we hit these so.
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We deliver my data.
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I otherwise, I feel like I'm going to miss something.
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We see it every day in life that people are going to be thinking about.
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So through this, right?
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Well, next to the errors point, you know, I think we did that home.
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So one of them was that we have the side-by-side comparison of the budget.
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Right?
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Yes.
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And then the percentages in the past and
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the expletational zeros, why we're back at it in Oregon.
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And last year's was for the fire engine only.
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The ISO.
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And the ISO, that's a good one.
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Someone else suggested that we looked at other comparable departments and see what they're like.
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The ISO think you have that.
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Do you remember?
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Yeah, but he doesn't have.
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Does he have the mill rate?
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each one's with. Oh no. Yeah. To look at the other comparisons for lighting.
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For their comparable. Right. He had the ISO ratings. Yeah.
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But not the meal rate. Right. And if we looked at other apartments to have the same,
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it's comparable to us to see what their meal rate is and see if they're below or above us.
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Jim said that he might be able to get an interesting fact there.
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Well, what I'm saying is that what the comparables are around here.
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Yeah, Apple Valley might be one and really it would be wise as soon as they're
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comparable as fire districts and how, you know, there could be fun and from
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other sources but like Hurricane, like Frank, because we leave, this is going to
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get seated to Hurricane almost, almost assuredly. And what would the, what would
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the theoretical change be if we were, if everybody up here was on Hurricane's
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plan. Yeah. Yeah. Are they funded by the mill rate or are they? I don't know. I think they're
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largely funded by their by taxation. I don't know if specifically the mill rate or whether they've
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got because they're not a special services system. So they're they're sourcing their incomes
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come from general and general property tax like I can find out.
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They have a mill I think they
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have a mill rate too but they also are getting money through that proposition that Dominic talked
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talked about how they get money from the businesses in?
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Tourist budgets.
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Which obviously we don't have.
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We don't get any of that.
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Unless there was a way to get into some science,
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because they're in our district.
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But you know, is that good for right now?
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We'll do it last year on the 23rd.
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So do you guys want to try and move the meeting?
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I'll give it to everybody else to the 23rd.
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So we have more time.
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So we have the side by side budget, the past percentage increase.
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Last year's engine was only, or last time's engine was only, the engine was only for that increase itself.
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And ISO rating and compared the mail rates, explain the percentage was versed 100 bucks.
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Anything else that we were talking about? So do you just give that list to you?
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I
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think that's all we're out right now.
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So we're really on good, because they're probably going to send out those notices in the
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next week or so.
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Yeah, so get ready.
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Your phone's going to start ringing air.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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I know.
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I'm sorry.
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Your other job causes everybody to call you.
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That's all I have on that.
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I was looking at, I was looking through to see and you couldn't help but notice which people
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you know we're going to do a lot so I was kind of looking to see it's about a hundred bucks
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it's across the board. Move this out if you don't like it. Move to the pie.
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Now it's like you want it? Eris, please,
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please, please. You're welcome.
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Keep me out, please, right? It's the worst love wasn't it? Recall this hall, right?
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I know I could make more money to have Travis Larson conspiring with that chair person.
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I honestly that's the only thing I've worked on lately since the last week.
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Do you have Jim's report?
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That was basically the extension before the only other report.
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The other other thing Jim has report is that the chief's truck,
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which is currently sitting out the back there, is done.
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is done, it's likely not, it doesn't make sense to try and repair it.
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That's good, but this way, we're paying $2700 for a transmission that didn't fix because
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the set in their yard, they couldn't fix it.
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So it's what they did to try to fix it.
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And at this point, if we don't have a command vehicle, or we bind it, that's part of it.
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They're into it for, I think the number they came up with was the dealer came up with
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to replace the transmission was like $6,700, $1,600, $1,600, which is about what the truck is worth.
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Oh, good.
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So, Joy.
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So that's another reason we can add is that that vehicle is done.
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And we don't have the funds to make that payment, which we're going to have to do, because that's one of the things we use all the time.
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Isn't that great?
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Yes, and it's actually, Jim obviously right now is driving the, he's driving our Hummer,
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which is fine for the most part, it's more complex because like the call I went on today,
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I had to take the big, the Tech 3 brush track, because, and normally I would take the Hummer,
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and the Tech 3 is not as much, it's not as, it's not as ideal to drive as a single person,
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whereas the Hummer is a little bit more manageable as a single person, so, you know, it's just
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the way it is, it's what we got,
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and that's about the extent of what he had to say, if he
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So the Washington County is putting on this board training that if you're available,
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you and I at minimum should go and it actually satisfies for a couple of things but it also
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brings us up to their auditing practices.
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Plain I went last time and it was really good training.
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If you guys have that are able to go, it's quick, it's easy, it's understandable and they did a really good job last time.
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I think they had Scott overreach who's our actual auditor there and you have any kind of questions that I answered and it satisfies a lot of our online stuff that we flunked past here.
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I said I'd be able to be there, but I'll be coming back from Vegas on that day, or that day, so I should be able to do it online, so I don't have to.
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Here you go. But then, so this will have different ones, but I'm going and I don't want to, but I will
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let me know, because I have to give an RSVP.
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Okay, so we'll put three and I'm going to get Scott and they should go because they haven't
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ever been to one and it's for new members too, so I will give them a call and see if we can get them to go to.
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Yeah, that's mostly for me for the grammar records.
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Prokaryly, so I know they're
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working on the Apple Festival.
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Are you going to be the Apple Festival people too?
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I can be the Apple Festival.
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Okay, where we're going to have a festival. It's going to be on the on 145 east or whatever it is. It's the street that's kind of
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Across the street from the fire station ish. There one that runs down. We're really smart. It's a lane. Oh yeah, so it's like a main road. No, no, it's going to be the last
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I think that's the kind of look of that said, it's more whether resistant. It keeps the
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hand a little happier because there's not a lot of all the trotting on top of the park and it makes
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getting in and out a lot easier so it gives us more parking options and hopefully we'll improve the traffic.
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That's what we're at. And it cuts down our vendors slightly but the town has been asking us to not make
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the event any larger and so we've got a few less vendors we are dealing food
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trucks this year because it's just cooking every year the same for people
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every year begins to become a grind so we'll probably do that for a couple
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years and tell people to complain and then we'll see if we can complain to
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complain them into volunteering and then we'll do that for the good
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We've got for a couple of years.
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So, you know, make sure to beast it.
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That's what we had.
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That's our primary thing right now.
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We're about half sold out right now.
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A little over half sold out.
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Is that good?
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Yeah.
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As soon as we post upon, on Facebook that we're having the event,
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we usually start with, we usually start a little bit about a month before.
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We'll fill up in three days.
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I
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think we're efficient.
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Can I make a motion of the nature?
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I'll say.
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in the time of 738.
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Awesome.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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You should have slept.
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Do you have technically done?
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You're ready to be done?
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I don't know.
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I'll call the address.
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I'll read it.
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He blew his knee out.
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Also, I'll go to the right and right.
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Okay.
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Did you find any place to do it?
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Yeah.
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Up here.
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The hospital?
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Yeah.
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After all those.
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This hospital?
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This is so far.
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We've tried to send in three different places.
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One in the back.
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Let's start on your back here, did
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you turn this off?
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So even if I'm off.