[0:02] This conference will now be recorded.

[0:06] » All right. Welcome everyone to the uh regular council meeting for August 10th,

[0:10] 2026. We'll call the meeting to order. A roll call shows that Mayor Ferguson is

[0:16] absent. Let's all stand for the pledge of allegiance.

[0:20] [clears throat] I aliance to the flag of the United

[0:25] States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under

[0:31] God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[0:42] » Anyone have any changes or additions to the agenda?

[0:46] Uh, I'd like to move uh the resolution 2611 down to

[0:52] uh either unfinished business or new business if we could do that.

[1:00] Other than that, can I entertain a motion for to approve the agenda?

[1:05] » So moved.

[1:08] » Second. >> Motion a second. All in favor?

[1:11] » I opposed. Consent agenda.

[1:18] Make a motion to approve the consent agenda items.

[1:21] » Second. >> We have a motion in a second. All in

[1:24] favor? >> I oppose.

[1:29] Public comments. Anyone wishing to speak?

[1:35] Pardon? Councelor.

[1:39] » Yes. I understand the ambulance was discussion last week. Um the director

[1:44] out to me uh asked me to be there if possible. I wasn't able to, but I did

[1:49] write

[1:56] a couple spots because I get a chance

[2:04] members, mayor, administrator.

[2:09] My name is Josh.

[2:13] While I'm not a direct constituent of New Richland, nor the New Richland

[2:17] Ambulance Service, many of our sheriff's office constituents in this area are

[2:21] covered by the New Richland Ambulance Service. I very often work directly with

[2:25] the ambulance service to save the lives of these commun community members when

[2:29] they need immediate life-saving medical treatment. One of these community

[2:32] members is a man named Kim who's actually here tonight. I will never

[2:36] forget Kim because he's the very first person I directly saved in my career.

[2:40] Kim had a medical issue that would have killed anyone who didn't receive

[2:43] immediate medical care. And myself, my partner,

[2:46] uh, now director Sarah Sunby and Sarah Joe Balkan got to give Kim time. We

[2:51] saved his life. Another minute or two and we would have been after I returned

[2:57] to work for my own near fatal injury. I spoke with Kim and Kim said I clearly

[3:01] had more work to do in my career save. It didn't take long for that to come

[3:05] true. I responded with Sarah to the golf course where a man had fallen on the T

[3:09] box injured his um if not for the original ambulance

[3:14] insisting that he go

[3:19] another amate

[3:24] didn't want to go in just heart rate but Sarah urged him to go to the

[3:31] hospital and get checked out and on the way his heart failed in the ambulance

[3:35] it's another person that I was at a call with uh with Sarah and

[3:41] yeah, if it wasn't for the ambulance service, that constituent of ours

[3:45] wouldn't be here.

[3:50] » Um without original ambulance service, when we get to a scene, all we have is

[3:54] an AD and oxygen bottle and CPR. We do now have a Lucas device as well, but

[3:58] that's all we have very

[4:03] fast

[4:09] ambulance service isn't just calls to the care center direct life saving are a

[4:14] valuable resource to the entire service area. I have a recent medical just last

[4:17] week I had a conversation with a new um fire rescue member of the fire

[4:21] department where I expressed my optimism that fire rescue may soon respond to

[4:26] medicals with the ambulance service like we do in the city and that we do in

[4:30] Jamesville. That's that's our dream as deputies as we get as many people there

[4:33] to help as we can because we have lives to save. [clears throat]

[4:37] We're in the business of saving lives, ladies and gentlemen. North is a good

[4:40] organization, but they're simply too far away at times. I don't see a decision to

[4:44] give up the original ambulance services as a responsible decision when seconds

[4:48] count saving lives. I believe people will die if the ambulance service is

[4:51] discontinued and I pray that they don't die in my arms. My father, Phil

[4:55] Langanger, a long time Wasiki County deputy, one time chief here, uh was once

[5:00] told long ago by the Jamesville mayor Els people die and you can't save. I say

[5:05] that's and we're going to absolutely try to save every single

[5:08] person. Thank you for your time and thank you last week.

[5:27] Please, >> Jody. Thanks for your service.

[5:32] » Thank you. >> Gosh, good to see you,

[5:36] Matt.

[5:39] » I know what you were doing. I think we met.

[5:42] » Yep. Thanks. So it's good to see all of you. Let's talk a little bit just

[5:47] history. My mom graduated from N in 1950.

[5:54] 1942 she watched her uncle Helmer Blackner go off on a train in his

[5:59] uniform World War II killed in Germany on the

[6:02] bridge of the Mgan never came back came back. and he stood

[6:07] there on that train and waited until he was You're old enough to remember a new

[6:12] region. It was Tim's cafe, had my first orange soda there. So then I went in the

[6:17] military and I did 23 years and I came back. I've sat where you've been. I've

[6:22] been in a hot chair. I've been where I've had to make decisions that are

[6:25] unpopular and it's not fun. But there also is you have to make a decision

[6:30] that's going to benefit most for everyone, not just for you. money.

[6:37] I'm pretty sure if you put a bond out there says we can keep our ambulance if

[6:41] we raise the taxes because if we don't it isn't a matter of if you're going to

[6:46] die it's when I'm coming up on nine years and these

[6:52] are two that say give me permission to speak. Was I dead?

[6:56] » Yes, >> I'm dead. There no pulse there nothing.

[7:00] Want to come to church? I'll tell you what I saw.

[7:04] That's a church.

[7:09] I'm alive. And guess where I came from today?

[7:12] » The golf course. I love to play golf. I also retired. I'm also a substant

[7:16] teacher here. Do a lot of that. I taught an average of four days a week from

[7:20] January to the 1st of June. Four days teaching at that high school.

[7:26] If I was dead, there wouldn't have been somebody to do it.

[7:29] So when you're saving a life, you don't realize how that's going to affect down

[7:33] the line or the next time they get called out.

[7:40] Be your loved one. I said it isn't a gift. It's

[7:45] when you need more money for that ambulance.

[7:54] A lot of other things you can do beside.

[8:07] [clears throat] Anyone else need to speak?

[8:13] » All right, we'll move on to Commissioner Doug Christopherson.

[8:19] Good evening council. Thanks for letting me come in

[8:26] tonight. I got this is some information that was we had an open house here a

[8:31] couple weeks ago on our justice center.

[8:39] Gives you some of the highlights. We won't go over all this, but it's

[8:42] something for you guys to take home and read.

[8:46] is uh kind of the history and and why we're in the

[8:52] situation we're in. My biggest reason for being here tonight

[8:56] is to tell you where we're at in the process

[9:00] and how we plan to finance it to keep it from being burdensome to our

[9:08] constituents. uh on this bill. Um this has been kicked down the road for

[9:16] many years. When I got on the board 12 years ago, it was a issue uh with our

[9:22] aging le building

[9:32] on close to 60 years of that building which um when I first got on I struggled

[9:38] with

[9:48] But there's many things with it that are insufficient uh in DOC standards

[9:53] nowadays uh with sightelines with uh recreational area for inmates,

[9:59] sunlight, um many different things that they have

[10:04] stated that it's just an aging facility. Uh, another large problem is

[10:12] transporting your inmates to the courtroom. Uh, we have to go through the

[10:17] public area to get them to the courtroom.

[10:21] Um, in our inability, it isn't inability, but the difficulty of

[10:26] securing the courthouse on court days um makes it difficult with our present u

[10:35] setup there. So a facil a new facility would would uh

[10:41] address all those things along with uh handicap accessibility

[10:49] more efficient building and it would also eliminate

[10:54] uh the use of the east annex. We would get all county um

[11:01] departments across the street. we would all be on the same block and hopefully

[11:07] long term that East Annex would turn into something more productive

[11:12] for the community. Um

[11:17] so that's kind of why we're here. Uh we did also make the decision to uh

[11:28] not build a full scale uh class jail going to be a 72hour facility. Um

[11:37] biggest reasons for that is uh cost of the building and cost of operations.

[11:44] Um we can do a lot of the same things under

[11:50] a 72-hour facility. Uh we can still have sentence to serve. We can still have

[11:55] work release. We just can't have that consistently in there for 72 hours at a

[12:01] time. So, there are ways to continue the programs that we're doing u with this

[12:09] facility that we're planning to build. Uh [clears throat] when I first talked

[12:15] to Tyler about coming here and talking to you, um the plan was is that we would

[12:20] have we would have had bid opening by now and that we would be

[12:26] u breaking ground end of this month. Um, we ran into a snafu with the bid process

[12:34] and so we have to because of the winter now we're going to have to push that

[12:38] back to a spring breaking ground in the spring which

[12:43] » hopefully won't cost us a whole lot because we won't have that winter then

[12:47] dealing with uh the cold weather. So if everything goes as planned, we're we're

[12:53] talking about breaking ground next spring and then we would move in fall of

[12:59] 28. So that's where we are timelinewise. Now

[13:05] if you guys on the back page years, it shows the

[13:10] um >> the financial part of it um

[13:16] along with soft cost. So everything all the construction costs, soft costs,

[13:23] we're looking at right at $33 million project. Um

[13:28] we've got 7 million in in savings and reserve.

[13:34] Um that has to do with um we in back in 2021 we started budgeting

[13:43] 750,000 a year anticipating this project. Um we we were able to do that

[13:51] through increase efficiencies and operations. Um

[13:57] we didn't obviously if we would have taken that

[14:01] off the levy that would have been a benefit to the constituents but we

[14:05] didn't add it on to the constituents. We found efficiencies within the county to

[14:10] to start uh saving that money. Um 1 million of that seven million is

[14:19] coming from Men Prairie Human Services. We've uh developed a plan there so that

[14:27] when the reserves get too high within Men Prairie, they come back to the

[14:31] county. So they're only going to be holding a certain percentage for

[14:35] reserve. Um, and we've been able to pull some of

[14:38] that money back to help uh with some of these CIP projects. Uh

[14:45] and then the 2.5 million was was also

[15:11] and we presented our application to get some

[15:15] congressional direct spending from the feds and uh she

[15:20] has assured us that we are going to be a we are going to get 3 million out of

[15:24] that and the reasoning for the 3 million the ask was to try to cover our soft

[15:32] and so we're we're 90% sure that we're going to

[15:36] get that money but nothing's for sure until it's uh done in Washington.

[15:43] » So, we've got 10 million that we're going to be able to draw down right

[15:46] away. So, we're going to be looking at about 23 million

[15:54] service $23 million of bond. Going to take about 1.65

[15:59] million a year over a 20-year period to service that bond debt. Um, our plan to

[16:04] do that is uh we've got bonds falling off in 2830.

[16:10] that's going to um equate out to 625,000.

[16:15] Um we've got operational savings through the sheriff's department

[16:20] with with what we're doing. We're going to be saving there's going to be some

[16:24] savings there. There's going to be some extra cost too obviously for transit,

[16:29] but there's going to be uh some savings with running the facility itself. So

[16:36] that that we're estimating at about 400,000 a year and then what we've been

[16:42] budgeting already is 750. So that gets us up to 1.775.

[16:48] So that in itself all things going the way planned

[16:54] should service that that bonding. Uh the other thing that's out there that

[17:01] that we applied for this year was local option sales tax to help pay for it. Uh

[17:08] right now we have a half a percent local option sales tax. This would be 38%.

[17:14] Um it was uh passed by the state that we are

[17:21] allowed to do this for these kind of CIP projects. Um

[17:27] it it looked like it was going to go through. It was in the budget bill.

[17:31] There was 45 different communities within Minnesota that had

[17:37] uh CIP or these local option sales tax proposals.

[17:42] And I and I don't I' like to brag about our administrator whenever I get a

[17:47] chance because he's he's topnotch. Um,

[17:53] our Tom Ston, our representative said they were using his as a template, our

[17:58] application. So, he did an excellent job. It looked like it was going to go

[18:05] through and through last minute negotiations up in the capital, they

[18:10] took them all out. They took all 45 out. So,

[18:16] um, we will continue to try that again. And even if we get the facility built,

[18:22] we still have the ability to apply for that.

[18:26] This is something that has to be passed before we break.

[18:33] Um, a lot of people, I don't know how you feel about local auction sales tax,

[18:39] but nobody likes another tax,

[18:44] but local option sales tax in a county the

[18:56] brings in 30 to 40% of that money outside

[19:05] of the county. That's not the whole burden isn't going on.

[19:12] So that that's really why I I feel it's a good option because it brings money

[19:16] from outside of the county, especially when you have a big box store like a

[19:21] Walmart. Uh it brings people into the county.

[19:27] So is there any questions for me? I guess I

[19:32] just wanted to update you guys and kind of give you an idea when you're talking

[19:35] to citizens in in town here, you know, and

[19:39] I know the biggest question is

[19:50] I noticed you said that they'd authorized to put it on the ballot for

[19:53] 2026. So now is it going to have to wait to 2028 before we put it on the ballot

[19:58] again for us to vote it in? >> Yeah, I thanks for saying that because

[20:02] yeah, even with this local ops and sales tax, even if the legislation would have

[20:06] passed it, it would go on the ballot. So constituents have to

[20:11] » the the road tax that we did the half percent that didn't need to go on the

[20:15] ballot but this does. >> So this will have to get passed but no

[20:19] it can be a special election. >> So we would probably if it gets passed

[20:25] in 27 we would put it on

[20:31] the chair people in attendance here able to ask

[20:34] questions. >> We'll see why not.

[20:37] » Yes sir. >> [clears throat]

[20:43] » discussion.

[20:51] » Yeah, I I did read that article and I knew that there was talk about that that

[20:57] it's I think

[21:01] I don't know what went on there, but also in that article they had

[21:08] Dodge County Sheriff has already identified more

[21:14] three other counties that are so I think that we pull them out of

[21:19] homestead fairly quickly that that's something that'll have to be

[21:25] addressed because yeah it's a concern. No doubt. No doubt it's a concern if if

[21:30] you get the situation with Homestead that that's

[21:36] got to be very frustrating for Dodge County. Um but but we have several jails

[21:42] around us that are have room uh steel lass. Um so I I

[21:51] it's a concern but I think it's workable concern.

[21:55] char.

[22:03] » Well, yeah. You know, like like Dodge County, they have uh they've never had a

[22:08] jail. Um so, yeah, they don't have any facility,

[22:13] not even a holding facility. So, it it's something they've been able to work, but

[22:18] I get the concern, but I really think there's enough. Obviously, we don't want

[22:23] to start transporting 200 miles away, you know, so

[22:26] » we don't want to do it, [laughter] >> right? Right now, we have pretty good

[22:32] working relationships with some neighboring

[22:39] that way for us. But yes, I that's disturbing that homestead.

[22:44] » How many offenders will this new uh facility hold at a time? We will just

[22:49] have three holding cells and then I believe there's a soft cell

[22:55] » and within 72 hours we'll have to transfer them to another.

[22:58] » So how does that work with the sentence to serve and stuff like that

[23:02] in Steel County or something? >> Well, I I don't think so. I I the way I

[23:09] was told it is that it they can as long as they're not in that facility for 72

[23:15] hours straight, you know. come back. Not sure on the sentence.

[23:21] Maybe

[23:28] » uh I know we have the ability to do it. Whether we're going to do it, I I can't.

[23:35] » When you say there's three holding cells, does that mean there's only three

[23:38] people that can be held or can you fill each cell to 20, 30 people?

[23:41] » No, three. Just three. [clears throat] >> What is it now? Eight.

[23:46] No, it's right now we have >> what is that?

[23:49] » We have six Huber cells and or we have six Huber beds and 20 straight cells.

[23:55] » We have 20, >> but only three, huh?

[23:59] » We into a wreck room. So, the >> Are you going to build to the north of

[24:03] the present building there in that big >> where those old houses used to be that

[24:08] you >> cleared out? Yeah, it'll be really kind

[24:11] of diagonal from the the straight north of the old the LC building right now.

[24:18] » And then that will be parking lot. >> Okay.

[24:24] [clears throat]

[24:28] » Right. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thanks.

[24:32] » Next up is Abdo with preliminary audit presentation.

[24:43] Um hello. Um just a quick introduction. My name is Kelsey Gertr and I'm a senior

[24:49] associate at ABDO. I was in charge of the new audit this year. So I will kind

[24:55] of go through um the financial statement results which includes the audit opinion

[25:02] legal compliance results current findings and recommendations along with

[25:06] a highle review of the city's general fund other governmental funds enterprise

[25:12] funds and then I will also go through some key performance indicators.

[25:21] So the city received an unmodified opinion under GAP this year and this is

[25:25] the opinion that we are looking to issue. An unmodified opinion means the

[25:29] financial statements are presented fairly in all material respects in

[25:33] accordance with GAP. Um and then we did not have any instances of

[25:39] non-compliance.

[25:43] So our fiscal year 2025 findings um they're mainly related to internal

[25:48] control findings. which they are the preparation of

[25:54] financial statements, limited segregation of duties, reconciliation,

[25:58] proper supporting documentation and material audit adjustments. Overall,

[26:03] these findings are very common for smaller cities um where staffing and

[26:09] resources can make a full segregation of duties difficult. There's a lot of pros

[26:15] and cons to it. um you could hire more people, but then you're going to be

[26:19] paying more people. So, typically it's easier for less employees and then the

[26:26] council just has oversight of all the financial information. Um overall, the

[26:32] key takeaway is that management and council should continue focusing on

[26:37] review controls, documentation, timely reconciliations,

[26:41] and then maintaining support for transactions.

[26:46] And this is just the prior year findings. Um they all kind of roll

[26:51] forward into the current year which is not unusual at all especially when they

[26:56] relate to staffing staffing structure and urine processes.

[27:05] Um and then our recommendations overall they are really focusing on to continue

[27:11] improving internal control documentation and this includes developing written

[27:16] policies and procedures, documenting employee responsibilities, documenting

[27:21] processes and overall this will improve internal

[27:25] controls to help with staff turnover. Um, also we would recommend having the

[27:31] city staff review all of the outstanding loans and verifying all loan.

[27:41] Now I will move on to the general fund and I do apologize our years are off by

[27:47] one year. Um, sometimes we have issues with things moving to the PDF. So it

[27:53] should be 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, and 26. Um, overall this chart is showing the

[28:01] city's general fund reserve levels over time compared to the city fund balance

[28:06] policy. The city's reserve position has remained well above the 50% policy level

[28:11] and continues to remain strong and this indicates that the city has a strong

[28:17] financial flexibility

[28:26] general fund budget to actual overall in the general fund the final budgeted

[28:31] revenues and expenditures were approximately $1.4 4 million.

[28:37] Actual revenues came in a little bit under at about 1.3 million. And this was

[28:42] mainly due to reduced billing related to ambulance revenues. And this was common

[28:48] with a lot of cities that we saw this year with the old ambulance billing

[28:53] company. The name is my head right now, but there were a lot of issues

[29:00] with the billing. I'm hoping going forward with the new billing service

[29:04] that should improve. And then looking at our actual

[29:08] expenditures, they were also about 1.3 million, which was slightly under

[29:12] budget. And this was mainly due to less medical needs than were budgeted for.

[29:18] Overall, even though revenues were less than budgeted, expenditures also came in

[29:23] under budget, which did result in a positive change in fund balance for the

[29:28] year.

[29:32] And this slide is just showing the general fund revenues by type. Um just

[29:37] kind of comparing revenue from taxes, intergovernmental charges for services

[29:41] and then kind of miscellaneous revenues.

[29:48] And this slide is very similar just showing the expenditures by type. Um so

[29:52] you can see general government, public safety, streets and highways. again kind

[29:56] of like another category overall public safety has the most

[30:02] expenditures. Yeah. again overall.

[30:14] So our special revenue fund balances um at the end of the year the total fund

[30:20] balance was about $45,000 compared to a deficit in the prior year of about

[30:26] $8,000. So overall this fund the special revenue funds increased by about

[30:31] $54,000.

[30:35] nothing from last year.

[30:42] And then the capital project fund balances um this year the total fund

[30:46] balance was about $1.1 million compared to about $784,000

[30:52] last year. Um so an overall fund increased by about $350,000.

[30:58] the major capital fund um increased mainly due to the bond

[31:05] issuance for the 2025 street project. So you can see um the orange for the

[31:10] assigned increased quite a bit from 24 and that's just mainly due to the bond

[31:15] issuance

[31:20] and then the debt service. This slide is summarizing the city's outstanding debt

[31:24] which totals about $2 million and this was quite a bit higher from last year.

[31:30] However, mainly due to the 2025

[31:34] pay improvement bond and as you can see that makes up the largest portion of the

[31:40] outstanding debt shown on the schedule. Um, but overall things are still looking

[31:47] good with debt. the city did pay off their 2012 AGO improvement bond during

[31:52] the year. Um, and then again, I'd just like to point out that the increase is

[31:57] due to financing infrastructure improvements for the year.

[32:05] Kind of getting into the enterprise funds. Overall, the water fund has an

[32:10] unrestricted cash of about $400,000 compared to the recommended amount of

[32:15] almost $58,000. Um so the water fund is definitely in a

[32:19] very strong financial position. Um and as you can see to on the far right the

[32:27] top table there um receipts are covering all operating costs and

[32:36] funds. Um the funds did have negative.

[32:45] Um I will note that is an improvement from last year. So that is good to see.

[32:50] But the operating receipts are not quite covering all the operating costs and

[32:54] debt payments. So this is an area that we would just kind of point out as the

[32:59] council should be watching this one a little bit closer with the receipts

[33:04] being less than dispersement.

[33:09] kind of the same thing with the nursing home here. Um, overall

[33:14] the receipts were not quite covering all the dispersements.

[33:18] Um, but again, I know that it's a different auditor for

[33:23] the nursing home, so they might have other recommendations for the financial

[33:28] stability of it. But just something for the council to keep in mind that there

[33:32] were more dispersements than receipts in 25 and kind of been a trend for the last

[33:36] few years as well.

[33:40] And then to your point, um unrestricted cash of $93,000

[33:48] 25. Um so that was looking good. And overall

[33:53] here operating receipts are greater than operating dispersants. That's always

[33:57] kind of the goal with these enterprise funds.

[34:02] And then again, I do apologize. This should say um this is cash amounts, not

[34:08] general fund expenditures by object code. Um so this c this graph is just

[34:13] providing a highle overview of cash balances across the city funds. It's

[34:18] shown that the co total cash balances have remained relatively stable over the

[34:22] last several years um with enterprise funds and capital project funds

[34:27] representing significant portions of total cash which is very common.

[34:35] Now moving on to the key performance indicators. Um this will kind of go over

[34:39] your taxes, debt and expenditures. Overall, this slide is just comparing

[34:44] the city's tax rate and taxes per capita to other cities of similar size and in

[34:49] Mosa County. These indicators allow us to compare the

[34:54] city's tax burden to similar communities and historical trends.

[34:59] Um, while taxes per capita increased in 2025, the city's tax rate remains below

[35:06] where it was just a few years ago. So, there has been improvement on the tax

[35:10] rate overall. These measures are intended to just

[35:15] provide context rather than identify a good or bad result. Um they're just

[35:20] simply showing how the city's tax burden has changed over time and how it

[35:24] compares to classified cities and cities.

[35:33] » No, it's okay. You can move on. >> Yep. So debt here um obviously during

[35:39] the year um with a debt issue once that debt per capita increased significantly

[35:45] um and it's also important to like when reviewing the debt levels it's important

[35:51] to remember this debt was issued to finance long-term infrastructure assets

[35:55] that will benefit the community for many years to come.

[36:01] And one thing here that I'd like to point out is although long-term debt

[36:04] increased during the year, the annual debt service remains a very manageable

[36:09] percentage of the current year expenditures as shown in that table on

[36:14] the right there. It's been very steady, the orange line.

[36:22] And then lastly, this table is showing current expenditures per capita has

[36:27] remained relatively stable from the prior year, including operating spending

[36:32] levels um have remained very consistent. On the table on the right, there was a

[36:38] significant increase in capital expenditures this year. However, this is

[36:42] really relating to the city's investment in infrastructure during 2025.

[36:48] Um, and also important to note, these are not routine spending costs, but

[36:52] rather long-term investments within the community.

[36:57] Now, overall, this was a very positive audit. The city received a clean

[37:01] opinion, no Minnesota legal compliance findings, and continues to remain having

[37:07] a strong general fund reserve. Um, we appreciate the cooperation provided by

[37:11] all city staff throughout the auto process, um, and the opportunity to work

[37:15] with you guys. That's all I have. If anybody has any questions,

[37:21] either now or later, you can feel free to reach out. I know you have all of our

[37:25] contact information. So, reach out to us.

[37:31] Thank you.

[37:40] Public hearing schedule. Uh, department reports, analyst report.

[37:59] Okay. So, there's actually three people that need the refresher for all first

[38:05] responders. Um, so it would be a total of $375

[38:10] for those three people. And we do get reimbursements. So, at the end of this,

[38:15] once they're done, I'd be able to go in and put in my refresher and a couple

[38:19] other people's refreshers and get some money back for for that. Also,

[38:25] um then the ambulance needs to be get it

[38:30] all changed and it kind of pulls to the right. So, we're going to work on

[38:33] getting that taken care of. Um the director will kind of go through that in

[38:38] just a minute, but I'd like to get those refreshers approved for those people.

[38:46] made a motion. >> Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve the

[38:49] refreshers for those three folks. I'll

[38:52] » second. We have a motion, a second. All in favor?

[38:55] » I opposed. >> Motion carries.

[39:01] » Okay. So, um we've been working on a lot of different things recently. I worked

[39:06] on some response times for the sheriff's department. Um Tyler had reached out to

[39:11] him and I made got it taken care of and he had uh got my report and he's looking

[39:16] and verifying those. Um Sarah and I met with South Central EMS had a Zoom

[39:22] meeting for potential um grants for new programs or treating in place. Um that

[39:30] is due on the end of this week. So I'm going to get that sent in. We already

[39:33] got the signature form for that. Um, it'll help with little things like

[39:38] people that need doctor appointments that can't go to the doctors. We can go

[39:41] and check on them. Um, granted with our staff not being here in the morning, uh,

[39:47] we don't have morning staff, that's hard, but we'll be able to do that at

[39:51] nights and stuff like that and make help them out if they need to. Then we decide

[39:55] whether or not they need an ambulance to go to the hospital or not. Um, that is

[39:59] going to be a trial period, so we'll be part of that. It'll be a good thing for

[40:02] the community. I also reached out to the school because I know last year they

[40:06] were reaching looking for a full-time ENT. Um there is a way that we can have

[40:12] a first responder of some sort be there. Don't have to have the ambulance per se.

[40:16] The football games we need to have the ambulance there. Um but a first

[40:21] responders, anybody that is on the ambulance crew can be at any of the

[40:24] games and be able to help. we might be able to work out an agreement with the

[40:28] school to kind of get some funding there to help with that and have somebody up

[40:32] at the schools during the games just in case something happens until they call

[40:35] an ambulance. Um we are also looking at a six-month program of recruiting

[40:41] process. U Mark has got the paperwork. Um there

[40:45] was just another death at Southland forms, so that might be just a little

[40:48] delay on that, but um they're going to we're going to be working on getting

[40:53] that going and getting some flyers. You should have a flyer come in to be able

[40:56] to clear the water bill. >> Our main thing is to find coverage for

[41:00] daytime. There's there's lots of different options we can

[41:04] go to, but some of it's going to cost more money.

[41:08] » Unfortunately, everything is going to cost money. No, nothing's free anymore

[41:11] in this world. But I can tell you this much the proposal that you're getting

[41:14] from North to buy everything for a dollar.

[41:17] How are you going to make money off that? Because you're selling you're

[41:20] getting rid of all of our equipment and everything like that. But you want to

[41:24] keep us on. But then you got to buy equipment again

[41:30] so we can respond first response cuz you're not going to get fired.

[41:34] You might get one or two.

[41:38] That's something you need to think about. There's about $500,000 worth of

[41:42] equipment and ambulance and stuff back there.

[41:45] » You can't sell for a dollar. If that's the case, let's put put a sign on the

[41:48] side of the ambulance and say for sale. Dulas offered me a dollar.

[41:55] I thought long and hard about this. I'm not doing it for myself. Doing it for

[42:00] every single person in this room. I may not be a be available for some of the

[42:05] people that came, but this weekend I had my somebody that's younger than me had

[42:10] their second heart attack.

[42:17] We had to take him to the airport. this guy here.

[42:23] And I'll never forget that day. That was my first ever say right here in this

[42:28] room right here. This guy. I stood above him. Thought I said it in my head. I

[42:32] said,

[42:36] "I don't care who you are or what our differences are. I'm there for you." And

[42:42] so is every single person in my crew. There's ways to reach out to all of our

[42:47] townships that are here and try to help get funding to keep the same. Our

[42:52] billing company, we are starting to get money in. We don't have a negative

[42:56] balance. We're in the positive for that. We got to give it time. There's also

[43:01] ways to cut on that, too. Sarah Joe used to do the billing. So did Karine.

[43:07] There's a way to send her to training to do that in house, too. There's another

[43:11] way to cut it. I know Sarah's been working with you on ways to cut the

[43:14] budget. There is ways to cut it, but there's ways we can't cut it.

[43:22] So, I'd like you all to think and hard about that before you make that

[43:26] decision. We may not be here every hour of the day, but when we are

[43:33] here, we're responding under seven minutes or less.

[43:38] If you don't have us, it could be 30 sometimes 45 minutes.

[43:44] I don't want that for anyone in this room. I don't want that for myself. I

[43:48] don't want that for my mom who's just had a stroke.

[43:53] Each one of this per each one of these people in this community mean more to me

[43:57] than anything they will ever know. Cuz you know what? When they call me,

[44:03] I'm going to be there.

[44:08] So, I'd like you all to think about that and

[44:13] I know eventually down the line it might happen,

[44:18] but it's going to be a long process and we get everybody and the first

[44:22] responding to be able to work together. >> Thanks.

[44:28] » Thank you, Sarah. >> Thanks,

[44:31] Department. Excuse me. Get a report. I'll make I'll make a motion to

[44:38] approve the amnest report. >> I'll second that.

[44:40] » We have a motion second. Is there any discussion?

[44:43] » If not, all in favor? >> Opposed?

[44:47] Motion carries. Fire department report. Uh they have one mutual aid calls

[45:07] the point where they're worried about how many people they have

[45:19] motion. department.

[45:24] » We have a motion to second. Is there any more discussion?

[45:27] If not, all in favor?

[45:31] » Motion carries. Police department report.

[45:34] » Uh, please respond to any calls for service in the month of July.

[45:50] July weekend

[45:53] issues updated the old backup radios

[45:57] successfully in the use of force and firearms

[46:01] training will take place this month. Uh two applications that were received

[46:14] $250 and

[46:18] supposed to school September 1st

[46:22] application Thursday. >> Um we're not sure.

[46:25] » I'm not sure.

[46:30] » So that's still in limbo on the full time police officer.

[46:40] We get a motion to approve the police department.

[46:42] » I'll make a motion to approve the police department report.

[46:46] » Second. >> We have a motion, a second. Is there any

[46:48] more discussion? If not, all in favor? >> I

[46:51] » I opposed. Motion carries. >> Care center report. Um, average census

[47:00] is at 39.5

[47:24] fulltime openings. nursing department agency use is down significantly as a

[47:28] result. Uh residents have been going on bus trips to get ice cream.

[47:48] Motion to accept

[47:52] a second. Any more discussion? Not all in favor?

[47:56] » I opposed. Motion carries. People service report.

[48:06] » Yeah.

[48:11] » [laughter] >> We got rain.

[48:15] » Got rain, rain, rain. Lot of rain, >> lot of inches rain events through the

[48:21] whole month. 10.27 inches for the month. Um July 8th, I did drive around that

[48:27] storm pipe at the west of the school was half full. That's 5 foot storm pipe.

[48:33] That was half full. So if it gets a fuller, it goes into the school. So, I

[48:39] had an exhaust fan repaired. I had mercury samples for the permit,

[48:45] took them out at the creek. Um, I attended a Rushford um water class.

[48:52] 20th we had quite a bit of rain. I was not here. I was on vacation, but her was

[48:57] here for that. from the [clears throat] August bioolid

[49:01] sampling soil samples

[49:10] or completed on time and I have monthly

[49:15] cyber security training every month that has to be done. So yeah,

[49:21] any questions?

[49:26] » Nothing. Nothing major repairs or anything.

[49:30] » We don't say that word because you know >> is everything running good

[49:36] » with what we what

[49:41] yeah it's going good. I hate to say too much because it could

[49:46] go the other way around.

[49:51] » Yeah.

[50:03] the parts. There's a few parts inside of it, the handle and stuff.

[50:12] So, I am getting the parts back the very

[50:22] but otherwise for now everything's okay. Wonderful. Very good. Good news.

[50:27] » Yeah. >> I'll make a motion uh accept the

[50:32] people's service report. >> Second.

[50:35] » Have a motion and a second. Any more discussion?

[50:38] If not, all in favor? >> I

[50:41] » opposed. Motion carries. Thanks, Shell.

[50:45] » Yeah. Thank you. >> Maintenance and utility report.

[50:49] » Um see here, blue cards residents this month.

[51:04] finish up street project. Uh let's see there

[51:09] everything [clears throat] completed for city days mower is still in the

[51:12] shopower.

[51:36] So, we're using a loner. >> We got Mike out there with some fiskers.

[51:45] » I was thinking that's what it was. Starting with the water updates and

[51:50] control 7125 and expected to be done 91625.

[51:54] They are we're at 90% done. We're there's progress. We're we're trying not

[52:00] to call too much attention to

[52:12] water.

[52:17] They're

[52:26] going to start shutting down Legion field the lake and the water tower clean

[52:29] up. They have all their metrics for uh

[52:33] pumping and such if you're interested in looking at that.

[52:40] We're still on the docket for painting the water tower by next year. I believe

[52:44] that's next year's plan.

[52:50] The bleachers order. >> They're not ordered yet. I just spoke

[52:53] with

[53:22] Motion to approve

[53:26] a second. Is there any more discussion? If not, all in favor?

[53:30] » I motion carries.

[53:34] » Um, the EDA report doesn't require Sorry. Go ahead.

[53:38] » Step on your toes. The EDA report does not require

[53:46] research study

[53:50] plan reviewed uh new Smith grant guidelines uh communication with first

[53:55] children's finance on the I don't recall what it stands for but it's basically

[54:01] financing for

[54:07] and see

[54:32] on unfinished business. Three entrance to city hall.

[54:36] Um, so this is the basically the same.

[55:25] We really need an engineer to figure this out. A good cement guy could

[55:28] probably give you the same with the nature of the damage. It's not

[55:34] just a patch. It's

[55:39] solution. >> It kind of goes all the way back to iron

[55:44] also the whole >> glass.

[56:02] It's only 100 years old.

[56:07] » All right.

[56:10] » What do we need to do, Tyler? Um you can look to spend the money um to repair it

[56:18] or we can work to try to come up with other solutions.

[56:23] I think this is based on conversations with the engineers. It's our best best

[57:08] Yes, I think this is

[57:38] There he is.

[58:02] certainly try discussion.

[58:09] Some of it's likely to be this is a low intensity activity handed off to them as

[58:15] as it happens.

[58:21] » A lot

[58:30] used a lot special events, right? So the day-to-day business everybody kind of

[58:35] uses.

[58:54] » Yeah. >> If you put a sign up then it's no

[58:57] brainer. You can't go in because it's been worth that too.

[59:11] Phil next month until you can get written in Eric on what they could

[59:14] possibly do. >> I think until they they see what the

[59:18] thing is, >> right?

[59:47] motion. Is there a second? The

[59:50] » motion was up to $25,000. I need to see

[1:00:00] Second.

[1:00:04] » Okay. So, we have a motion to second. Any more discussion?

[1:00:09] All in favor? >> I

[1:00:13] motion carries. >> Okay. This is

[1:00:22] same thing that was last.

[1:01:02] I thought our water then I saw what

[1:01:07] $42. >> 46 and 46.

[1:01:11] » 46. That's right. $92 before you even turn a tap on every month.

[1:01:16] » That's ridiculous. >> Yeah, they got brand new.

[1:01:18] » Well, yeah. Yeah. And they were mandated.

[1:01:22] » Yeah.

[1:01:31] » Who came up with those numbers?

[1:01:35] State I think state of Minnesota stepped in and said these are your new numbers.

[1:01:41] » Ouch.

[1:01:44] » You're buying water and sewer. >> We're

[1:01:52] don't need to move on this.

[1:02:33] 177 to 220. Is that what you're talking about with the same money before?

[1:02:37] » It was It was like a $30 jump. >> Current current four person 174 up to

[1:02:43] 220. >> Yeah. Current 174 up to 220. If the

[1:02:49] water rates were adjusted so that 100,000%

[1:02:57] And is that average 100,000

[1:03:02] the numbers that were plugged into the work

[1:03:08] year?

[1:03:21] This is a sample.

[1:03:25] I have four. >> Okay, that's what I was asking.

[1:03:33] » I personally look at it as the stuff's got to be done and we got to pay for it.

[1:03:37] So, I have no problem paying for it. It hurts, yes, but

[1:03:41] » we got to pay for it some way. The thing I keep coming back to is

[1:04:07] Well, that's what we're doing. >> That's exactly it.

[1:04:11] » Should have started like 40 years ago. >> Oh, yeah. Right.

[1:04:16] » I remember when bills are 17 and $20, >> but our water fund is pretty flush like

[1:04:22] you said. But >> it's got a 400,000 I believe.

[1:04:28] sewer.

[1:04:51] It could be done. Basically, you set the time that it that it goes into action.

[1:04:59] » It could also it could also be phased. This year we've been target 5050.

[1:05:07] » Well, then why don't you come back with something like that for next month for

[1:05:10] us? >> Yes. 5050 100.

[1:05:16] Oops.

[1:05:31] Jan is here. She's the utility building expert.

[1:05:35] » Yeah. I mean, I personally don't see anything that I would say is outrageous

[1:05:39] from the prices going up

[1:05:47] because you're buying a commodity, things that need to be done. So we're

[1:05:51] monitoring. [clears throat]

[1:05:59] » Wait on that till next move. >> Should we move the table?

[1:06:02] » Yeah, I think so. >> Somebody moved the table.

[1:06:05] » Yeah, I'll move the table on the water and sewer rates till next month. I'll

[1:06:09] second that. >> We have a motion and a second. Any more

[1:06:12] discussion? All in favor? I

[1:06:17] » opposed. Motion carries.

[1:06:21] city don't. And just to clarify just in case AI is

[1:06:26] no action

[1:06:48] of the It is currently

[1:07:18] talking about

[1:07:31] The unlawful is already

[1:07:41] resolution.

[1:07:52] ways to

[1:07:56] every three to four years they have to rent a

[1:08:00] loader to push the

[1:08:04] » right maybe this program is such that that

[1:08:09] mitigates how much that actually cost the

[1:08:19] This is going to be part of the board down there.

[1:08:26] » There's a lot of >> lot of stuff getting blown out of

[1:08:29] proportion going to get charged and it's like come

[1:08:33] on just can't believe everybody what the hell they talk about.

[1:08:37] » Anybody that lives in town does not get charged to you.

[1:08:40] » They are I mean, I've had four people.

[1:08:44] » It was in the paper. >> It was in the paper.

[1:09:00] » I was kind of curious.

[1:09:23] I was going to ask the same question. I would say no. The the plan is that if

[1:09:28] it's for somebody in town like an arborist removing trees and such then

[1:09:33] basically businesses would have to check in and say this is for this address and

[1:09:38] they get pass but if it's somebody coming from out of town to do it then

[1:09:42] it's a different story >> and and how do you how do you control

[1:09:46] that? How do you maintain >> a record of it?

[1:09:49] » So we we have uh the cameras out there now

[1:09:54] more or less

[1:10:17] It can't be much of a problem

[1:10:21] or during storm after a storm. The only I live right up on the street.

[1:10:26] The only time I ever see anybody go by there is in the spring when they clean

[1:10:29] their gardens in the fall when they clean their yards. And occasionally if

[1:10:34] there's a storm, you see some guy with a with a a golf cart dragging a branch

[1:10:39] down the street or something. But, you know, I I I just I just don't know that

[1:10:44] I I don't understand why why it's why it's even a problem to be honest with

[1:10:48] you. If you've got the the illegal dumping thing in place and everyone

[1:10:52] knows it, why it wouldn't just why that wouldn't

[1:10:56] be good enough. >> The thought process is to give people

[1:11:19] are aware of that. >> Um yes, there was one issue.

[1:11:37] It's not they're not so this is enforced. It's not like they have to

[1:11:41] watch camera film for days. it clicks a picture and sends it straight to you.

[1:11:47] » Right. >> So, it's not like it's going to be any

[1:11:50] extra work on their half behalf. I drove out there after I got questioned 50

[1:11:55] times the other day and I could see where the cameras are even located. So,

[1:12:02] » I'm getting take an extra person.

[1:12:06] and the division of like the department

[1:12:16] ideally will be self

[1:12:31] instructions on the dropbox.

[1:12:37] I look at it this way. If somebody goes out there and they think it, they'll go

[1:12:41] out there and find the person, say, "If he says he's working for him, it's a

[1:12:45] done deal. No problem." So, I don't think we have to worry about it.

[1:12:52] A lot of whatifs, right?

[1:12:56] Because I don't think anything's going to happen to it. You You'll catch the

[1:12:59] people that are doing it illegally. Yes, but if it takes a couple days for you

[1:13:04] your friend to say, "Well, it was working for him." Who cares? It's done.

[1:13:10] Nobody gets a problem. >> I guess we run it and just see what

[1:13:14] » Yeah. >> what fines came out of it for illegal

[1:13:16] companive.

[1:13:24] » I agree. >> I think the $200 is a little bit

[1:13:26] excessive, but >> illegal dumping. I think it should be

[1:13:28] five. >> Absolutely.

[1:13:30] » Don't dunk. Yeah.

[1:13:34] » Well, depends what they're dumping. >> You're not going to get that.

[1:13:39] » Yeah. You're out of town. >> You're not

[1:13:44] a city >> or if you don't make a payment. Yeah. If

[1:13:48] you're not a city resident and you don't make a payment in time, it's $200.

[1:13:51] » Well, right now it should be $200. No matter what the city because it's not

[1:13:54] open to non city residents. >> That'll stop a lot of people.

[1:13:59] » I hear that. I I paid when I lived in Rochester.

[1:14:03] » Yeah. >> No matter where the hell I went, we

[1:14:06] paid. >> But I mean, the idea behind it is it's

[1:14:10] supposed to be a city for city. >> And before we got the camera,

[1:14:45] bring it back up. >> If it's, you know, five, six

[1:14:50] » finds a month, you're seeing lots of people out there not

[1:14:54] » that shouldn't be out [clears throat] there, then maybe revisit the

[1:14:56] » okay >> closing it down but I would say

[1:15:00] with illegal dumping fine the way it is suffices for now

[1:15:06] would be my thought [clears throat]

[1:15:09] then um so this was the memo for there was also

[1:15:40] Second, a second. Any more discussion?

[1:15:46] All in favor?

[1:15:50] motion table.

[1:15:58] » The resolution 26-11 to max amendment to appendix D of the

[1:16:04] city of Richmond code ordinances addressing the fee schedule for the city

[1:16:07] of New Richland. The only change is the unlawful

[1:16:11] disposal.

[1:16:17] » I didn't see the storms were Storm

[1:16:27] on our water bills $5. Should that be on the speed schedule?

[1:16:31] » You're not talking sewer, right? >> No, storm sewer.

[1:16:34] » Storm sewer.

[1:16:38] » Sewer. I have seen that on other copies of this.

[1:16:42] problem

[1:16:46] with these

[1:17:00] I have another question probably sounds silly to you but I see there's

[1:17:04] connection fees and disconnect or connection fees for water and for sewer

[1:17:09] how is that

[1:17:15] sewer service connection fee of $50. What do you connect? It's already

[1:17:19] connect. >> No,

[1:17:23] » I think that that is when the house is constructed.

[1:17:28] That's the >> your plumber. It's already

[1:17:32] should already be stumped in with the lot, isn't it? Yeah, it's it's there's a

[1:17:36] lateral coming off the sewer main and then your plumber hooks on too.

[1:17:40] » Plumber does all that [clears throat] charge

[1:17:43] » charge for that >> sewer hook up one time.

[1:17:48] » Is it charged ever to anybody >> new service? Is it new construction?

[1:17:55] » But it's charged then. >> Mhm.

[1:17:58] » You have to Yeah, there's a few on seven you'd have to look back. I can see maybe

[1:18:02] with the water service because you have to put a meter in and all that stuff. I

[1:18:06] kind of understand that.

[1:18:10] » Yeah, I just wondered about connection.

[1:18:17] Anyway,

[1:18:20] » that's all I had. Anything else?

[1:18:27] I get a motion to approve the fee schedule or resolution. I'm sorry.

[1:18:31] » Yeah, it's a 26-1 correct just the

[1:18:38] I'll make a motion to approve resolution 26-

[1:18:45] » I'll second that. >> Motion to second. There's any more

[1:18:47] discussion? If not, all in favor? >> I opposed.

[1:18:53] Resolution is adopted. Moving on to new business. July check

[1:18:58] register.

[1:19:19] I saw two payments for C of $4,100 like pretty close together.

[1:19:28] We had another

[1:19:44] saw for $990.

[1:19:49] notice of public hearing that >> take a whole page out

[1:19:54] ordinances, >> right?

[1:19:58] » I don't I don't get the paper, so I didn't actually see it.

[1:20:01] » Came out to a block like that with all the the text.

[1:20:10] » We don't pay for white space. >> Seriously, that's what they do. They

[1:20:14] have a lot of white space in those notices to charge for. I will keep the

[1:20:18] paper.

[1:20:22] » Yeah. Just You should be getting a tear sheet with your Did they send you a tear

[1:20:27] sheet with your invoice? >> I'm not sure what tear sheet is.

[1:20:31] » Tear sheets a copy of the page that was printed.

[1:20:34] » Yeah. >> Okay. So,

[1:20:36] » you should get one looks like >> I I don't believe we're getting

[1:20:41] one. It's almost I think it's almost requirement

[1:20:46] for audits. I don't

[1:21:00] check register.

[1:21:04] » I'll make a motion to approve the July check register.

[1:21:08] » Second. Have a motion in a second. Any more discussion?

[1:21:12] If not, all in favor? >> I opposed. Motion carries.

[1:21:18] Selling the lots on Broadway. So, there are two lots.

[1:21:49] What I would recommend doing

[1:21:56] home condition is where you begin construction within a year and if you

[1:22:00] don't complete within a year we clock it back.

[1:22:04] Given that it's business.

[1:22:32] Exploring

[1:22:41] website.

[1:22:48] They can sell real estate through

[1:23:03] What's the value

[1:23:09] estimated value is 7500

[1:23:18] » one of the properties to the south one of the properties to the north

[1:23:36] years.

[1:23:56] Favorite song of You're looking for a motion to give you

[1:24:01] the authority to go talk to them to see what can happen.

[1:24:05] » Yes. And if and if >> the plan of of a dollar and and the

[1:24:11] clawback is amenable to that.

[1:24:17] » I'll make a motion to go ahead with the plan you got here and I'll

[1:24:21] memor.

[1:24:25] » We have a motion to second. There's any more discussion?

[1:24:28] If not all in favor

[1:24:33] sell the lot that rolling. All right. Um

[1:24:40] in the north proposal and the cost they got to do the

[1:25:02] purchaseable equipment for a dollar cover for free in perpetuity. However,

[1:25:08] are conferring with the analyst director and assistant analyst director as well

[1:25:11] as the analyst department from the city council

[1:25:28] as well.

[1:25:37] There are several programs that

[1:26:06] I was not aware of this proposal until I got my packet on Thursday. Um,

[1:26:14] so I really was blindsided and I thought this

[1:26:18] » Can I Can I say something? When it comes to the Anthos department, I am the

[1:26:22] director. Anything that you want to know about anything with the area, the

[1:26:27] community, anything like that or looking into things, please reach out to me

[1:26:31] because that's my job as the director. That's what you guys have me to do.

[1:26:35] That's what you want me to do. I could have came up gave got you a

[1:26:39] whole bunch of all this information and it would have saved you time to do

[1:26:42] something else. That is my job. I'm here for that. I'm

[1:26:48] here for the city and I'm here to do my job. If I can't do it then right then

[1:26:57] why why am I here? Please come to me. I will help you as much as I can. And if I

[1:27:02] don't have the answers, I know where to get them right then and there. So, we

[1:27:08] need this. Like I said, there's plenty of options out there. We got the

[1:27:12] townships that we can go to. We are making money now finally on the with the

[1:27:18] billing. You looked at the budget that is actually positive now. Um,

[1:27:24] » well, based on what I'm hearing, >> I think we should look at the budget,

[1:27:30] look at what we can do there, and then re That's say revisit the selling of it,

[1:27:35] but revisiting if we have to fix anything next time.

[1:27:41] It's like I I read this as saying you don't want to do this anymore.

[1:27:46] » I don't want to do it in the first place.

[1:27:49] » How come anybody else go about this? I was totally

[1:27:54] as aware. >> I was not aware

[1:28:04] that meeting was never any decisions to get rid of

[1:28:08] the ambulance. >> We worked on back channels in the

[1:28:11] meantime to figure out what the meeting was about, right?

[1:28:15] » Which was fine. You have all the right to do that, but the meeting was that is

[1:28:20] not business. >> Thank you.

[1:28:25] I am I am aware I mean but I could have came up with a lot of that stuff and got

[1:28:30] that for you. That is my job as the director but I was not reached out to

[1:28:35] for nothing. instead I get goes to the sheriff's office asking for response

[1:28:39] times and then told me that he went that north contacted him when he contacted me

[1:28:46] » and I told you that I'm spoken >> that was a lie

[1:28:50] » very hard so it that's not a way to start a meeting that's not any way to

[1:28:57] build trust or respect >> meeting

[1:29:02] is not good you know that

[1:29:06] What I'm what I'm telling you, Sarah, is the meeting on Tuesday was designed to

[1:29:08] give you the opportunity to bring this forward. This was never a we're going to

[1:29:12] shut the ambulance down and on next next meeting we're going to

[1:29:15] » That's great. >> That was never the idea. So you we need

[1:29:17] to get back. >> This is the idea. You just you went to

[1:29:20] them to try and get money to have them buy up. So you were trying to get the

[1:29:25] ambulance. >> No, it was an option.

[1:29:27] » We're all looking at options. We have due diligence. We have to do the due

[1:29:30] diligence. >> This to me says that when we found a

[1:29:33] proposal and the city

[1:29:47] I called to make sure that we

[1:29:54] got blown ways never been an issue in the first place.

[1:29:59] » Well, let's move on. What are we going to do for the budget? What can we do

[1:30:02] next year to make this an even more money-m opportunity?

[1:30:06] » I think that's where we should. >> How many employees do we have

[1:30:09] » right now? We have 10. We have one as a student. She's going um so right now,

[1:30:16] but when she gets done and hopefully Josh and Sarah get their EMT. We will

[1:30:21] have the opposite. We'll have six EMTs first for first responders.

[1:30:28] » What? Uh >> we always need more.

[1:30:31] » Yeah. What?

[1:30:32] » And it's a dying field everywhere. >> I say that you got you're looking into

[1:30:36] some programs, right? To try you're trying to get some help.

[1:30:40] » Yeah. >> So, we can maybe start covering, you

[1:30:43] know, because I I I've been hearing, you know, I know Kim very well.

[1:30:49] » Uh what happens if we want to add anybody on? And it was during the day,

[1:30:53] you know. So, that's that's where it goes, too. You know, it'd be it'd be

[1:30:57] great if we could get enough coverage where we could reap the benefits for the

[1:31:02] whole use of the ambulance for for everybody.

[1:31:06] » That's why that's why I was just asking if there's what we need to do to be able

[1:31:10] to get to that point. I mean, there's never gonna be 100%. You're never gonna

[1:31:14] be able to have full thing or pay people full,

[1:31:17] » but >> we don't ask for 60 hours a month.

[1:31:22] That's two and a half days. If we had 30 people and they all put in

[1:31:29] that 60 hours,

[1:31:33] we'd be perfect. We'd have full time coverage, but we need that. We need the

[1:31:39] day coverage. Everyone has full job. We don't make there's no way we can all

[1:31:43] make those money. >> There's I I wouldn't expect anybody

[1:31:48] » to do that. >> But they know that up front, too.

[1:31:51] » Pardon me. >> They know that up front, too,

[1:31:54] » right? >> So, I don't see that being an issue, the

[1:31:56] pay or what, how much it get made. It's whether they're going to be have enough

[1:32:00] people to cover the diaper. You guys, >> I'm sorry. I can't hear you.

[1:32:03] » I would say it's going to be getting enough people, like you said, to have

[1:32:06] the coverage through the day, right, that you need,

[1:32:09] » right? And that's going to be a continuous thing.

[1:32:11] » It is. It's going to be contin

[1:32:38] volunteers, but then it costs

[1:32:43] and right now we the mutual agree mutual aid agreement we have with Minnesota um

[1:32:50] with North Mayo, Minnesota Lake, Reborn, Ellenale, Wells.

[1:32:56] None of that costs us anything. And I have copies of every single one of

[1:33:02] those mutual aid agreements. And the one for north says we they are granted up to

[1:33:09] 108 hours a week. We use about 60 60 to 70 depending on

[1:33:17] the week. >> So we're not there.

[1:33:21] » Am I hearing you say just recently here that

[1:33:25] because we've switched from that provider that didn't give us the we want

[1:33:30] now we're starting to get paid back for more. So next year could even be a

[1:33:34] better payment for >> it could be a better revenue next year

[1:33:37] » because we got it taken care of. >> Yeah.

[1:33:39] » Bookwork wise moving in that direction. >> Then then I think all we need to do is

[1:33:46] » wait until maybe May June of next year to see how things work.

[1:33:51] » Each year it changes so depending on how many runs we have. Correct. So, but

[1:33:56] you're gonna by the end of this this year, we should have a full year

[1:34:01] and you'll be able to see the revenue that has been.

[1:34:04] » Well, hopefully that is not going to be a problem anymore. It's just getting

[1:34:07] enough runs and having enough people to cover those runs.

[1:34:11] » And in all fairness, North Memorial has a Royal North always has a paper for

[1:34:19] help everybody else.

[1:34:22] It's not unique to New Relic.

[1:34:28] » It's everywhere. >> It's even full-time services that don't

[1:34:31] have it. So, it's but there is ways to kind of work on it. Jen, who is one of

[1:34:37] our one of our EMTs also has where she does classes.

[1:34:42] We find enough people in the city of Richland that'll want to take even if

[1:34:46] it's just a first responder class. We can have one,

[1:34:52] you know, as long as we pay her something for that first responder

[1:34:57] class. We get people that come on. That would be amazing. Benefits her, benefits

[1:35:03] all of us. Drivers, same way. They can just be a

[1:35:08] driver. They don't have to have a first responder. All they need is their CPR

[1:35:12] and a driver's license. Good thing driving record, of course. But that's an

[1:35:16] option, too. If we had that during the day, somebody

[1:35:21] that's retired and wants to just drive the ambulance when the painter goes off.

[1:35:25] There we go. And we find an ENT that would be there during the day.

[1:35:30] That's full-time ENT. Monday through Friday would be another option. I mean,

[1:35:34] first coming out of school, we go to South Central, we can go to Riverland.

[1:35:37] We can go all over and find one or two EMTs that split those full-time hours.

[1:35:44] Then I could give delegate them some stuff and take off some of those times

[1:35:49] that I have. There's ways to work around it,

[1:35:54] and I'm willing to work on that, but we need to be able to meet and communicate

[1:35:58] that stuff. That's what I'm trying to get across.

[1:36:04] We don't need to do anything with this member.

[1:36:06] » No, you can choose to reject the proposal or you can

[1:36:13] say we already reject the proposal. >> I'll second.

[1:36:18] » We have a motion, a second. There any more discussion?

[1:36:22] » All in favor?

[1:36:29] Proposal rejected. Clerk's Academy Lod

[1:37:00] Could

[1:37:15] attend this also? >> She could. So, we paid $250 to go to the

[1:37:22] thing. So,

[1:37:28] » I think we all benefit from this training. I looked at the course outline

[1:37:32] or syllabus, whatever you call it, and it looked like uh it would, you know, be

[1:37:37] it'd be beneficial for her as well. >> Would you think to have both attended at

[1:37:42] the same time, you'd get more value out of it, each run separate

[1:37:47] potentially? I mean, >> sometimes when you heads together as far

[1:37:50] as doing things together, they got works better.

[1:37:52] » The only downside was it wouldn't all >> um there is

[1:38:17] Yeah, just I think

[1:38:34] question, >> right?

[1:38:36] » And then if it was a different time, then then the office wouldn't be

[1:38:39] unmanned or or unwoman.

[1:38:44] Yeah, there you go. I'm sorry. Empty.

[1:38:54] Why don't we just approve it up to him? Well,

[1:38:59] » there you go. $275 for

[1:39:12] » you.

[1:39:23] What are you saying? >> What I'm saying is you cover parking

[1:39:27] that cover your meals, too.

[1:39:36] Whatever. >> Whatever it cost

[1:39:40] » 600. >> Yeah.

[1:39:42] » Yeah. >> Well, just approve expenses for

[1:39:55] » second. Motion second. Any more discussion? No.

[1:40:00] » All in favor? I >> oppose.

[1:40:05] Go to the academy.

[1:40:10] It's >> not the one in Colorado.

[1:40:34] contest child care and had a conversation about initiatives that

[1:40:37] could be undertaken here. The home condition property sales are now

[1:40:41] complete construction.

[1:41:03] Why do we think of this?

[1:41:10] » Um, and then we discovered that most of our computer issues are being actually

[1:41:15] caused directly by manual. It's a old software that is not playing nice with

[1:41:21] all the new stuff anymore. Um, so there's opportunities to improve, but

[1:41:28] they're they are not cheap.

[1:41:36] That's the short version.

[1:42:07] This thing has been a problem for some time. Other cities are having the same

[1:42:11] issues. >> Bion got the word that people are a

[1:42:15] little bit frustrated with their product.

[1:42:17] » It's it's the backbone that they built it up.

[1:42:28] It's a good piece of software.

[1:42:53] So this this came out before I got the power systems to replace

[1:43:03] that work session. >> Bring that back next.

[1:43:07] » Well, they're talking about the work session.

[1:43:11] We That's not it's it's not it's not

[1:43:15] inexpensive and the conversion fee is $63,000

[1:43:25] but that also takes over funding uh payroll HR and um

[1:43:35] point of sale. So in aggregate right now we're paying about $13,000 for those

[1:43:41] things. The annual expense of Tyler Technologies is about $19,000.

[1:43:46] And having used some of the Tyler Technology stuff in the past, the the

[1:43:50] improved workflow, you you make up for that difference. Your yearly fee, your

[1:43:56] conversion fee takes a little while to come.

[1:44:00] » That's that's kind of a yeah, a bad thing anyway. Conversion is always going

[1:44:04] to be them. >> I mean, even if we convert it to cells,

[1:44:29] Does that

[1:44:34] push this out to them? Does the savings that you're talking about include the

[1:44:38] time frame? you would have been doing if we didn't push it out to a private

[1:44:44] market. >> Say private.

[1:44:46] » So we we handle the payroll and stuff. They're the ones that process the

[1:44:50] payroll. So they do all the compliance and stuff on the back.

[1:44:53] » That neither one >> they're not completely thinking.

[1:44:56] » No, they're not taking it over. It's just it's the software.

[1:44:59] » All right.

[1:45:04] » It's worth looking into because of BY screwing us up. I I think last week I

[1:45:09] spent four and a half hours

[1:45:17] and a half

[1:45:39] I make a motion accept the administ administrator's report. I'll second a

[1:45:44] motion to second. Any more discussion? If not, all in favor?

[1:45:48] » I oppose. >> Motion carries.

[1:45:53] Anyone have any comments from Madias?

[1:46:05] We get a motion to adjourn.

[1:46:12] Motion to second. We have a motion and a second.

[1:46:17] All in favor?

[1:46:23] » Thank you everyone. BMB that's all.

August 10th Regular City Council Meeting

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