[4:52] Good evening everyone.

[4:54] I hereby declare the

[4:57] New Windsor City Council meeting open for business

[4:58] on September 21,

[5:00] 2026. The first

[5:05] item on our

[5:07] agenda today is the

[5:08] approval of

[5:09] the minutes of the

[5:10] August 2026 working meeting

[5:12] . You should all have

[5:16] received it

[5:17] electronically

[5:18] from the City

[5:19] Secretary-Treasurer. That being the

[5:21] case, I

[5:23] await a proposal to

[5:24] adopt these

[5:25] minutes in

[5:25] writing.

[5:28] I propose to adopt

[5:30] the minutes of the working

[5:31] meeting of September 21.

[5:32] Oh, I'm sorry.

[5:34] Minutes of the working

[5:35] meeting of August 21,

[5:37] 2026 in written

[5:38] form.

[5:39] Okay, we have

[5:40] a proposal to adopt the

[5:41] minutes of the working

[5:42] meeting of August 21.

[5:44] Is there a second offer

[5:45] ?

[5:45] I support.

[5:46] We have the first and second

[5:47] proposals. Are there any

[5:48] questions about this

[5:50] protocol? Those who are "in favor",

[5:51] please say "yes".

[5:53] Yes. Are

[5:53] there any objections?

[5:55] Okay, the offer

[5:56] is accepted. The protocol

[5:57] has been entered into the

[5:58] official register. The

[6:01] next item on the

[6:02] agenda is

[6:03] approval of the

[6:05] stage rental for the event "

[6:06] Music on the Main Street".

[6:10] Er...

[6:12] Yes, we are making changes

[6:13] for those looking

[6:15] at the agenda.

[6:19] So, just a quick

[6:19] note, the

[6:20] Mid-Atlantic

[6:21] Rage organization was supposed to be here

[6:22] tonight, but

[6:24] the gentleman who

[6:25] sent the letter of

[6:26] intent has a daughter in

[6:27] the hospital, so we'll

[6:28] move it to the

[6:29] October

[6:30] council meeting. So we'll replace

[6:36] that with stage rental. Do

[6:39] you want me to read what

[6:42] Anne-Marie prepared?

[6:43] Of course, if you wish.

[6:45] So, she received a

[6:47] quote

[6:48] from All Stage and Sound Inc. onto a

[6:50] 12-by-24-foot stage, which is

[6:51] larger than what we

[6:52] used

[6:54] before. It will be

[6:58] slightly raised. The stage

[7:00] has a border, stairs,

[7:01] and a small step

[7:03] at the end. The cost

[7:04] includes delivery,

[7:05] installation and dismantling. I

[7:07] think she said

[7:09] they would be there at

[7:11] 8:00, set up the stage

[7:12] by 10:00, and take it down

[7:14] by 7:00 and clear the

[7:16] street. The cost of this

[7:19] scene is

[7:21] $3,179. We

[7:24] discussed this at the

[7:26] Music on Main meeting

[7:27] today at 6:00 PM, and the

[7:28] council members present

[7:30] seemed to be in favor,

[7:31] so we are putting it

[7:32] to a vote.

[7:35] I propose to approve.

[7:36] If it saves us

[7:37] from having to

[7:38] collect it ourselves.

[7:40] This is what Dante said

[7:42] at the press conference.

[7:46] Good. So, as you may have

[7:49] heard, All Stage &

[7:51] Sound provided a quote

[7:53] or estimate for

[7:54] $3,179 for a

[7:56] 12-foot by 24-foot stage

[7:58] for our 10-foot by

[8:00] 20-foot tent. The stage will

[8:03] have a skirt and

[8:04] steps. The estimate

[8:06] includes delivery,

[8:07] installation and dismantling.

[8:10] The stage will be set up by

[8:12] 10:00 a.m. and

[8:13] dismantled by 7:00

[8:14] p.m. to clear

[8:15] the way for

[8:17] Main Street. So I

[8:21] would like to

[8:22] propose or

[8:23] consider

[8:24] a proposal to

[8:25] accept the cost of

[8:27] $3,179 for the

[8:28] rental of this stage.

[8:34] I make a motion

[8:35] to approve the rental of the

[8:36] stage in the amount of

[8:38] $3,179 $

[8:40] 3,179

[8:42] $79, yes.

[8:44] dollars.

[8:44] Good. Okay,

[8:45] the motion has been made, is

[8:46] there anyone who would

[8:47] support it?

[8:48] I support.

[8:49] Certainly. Okay,

[8:50] we have a suggestion and

[8:51] support. Are there any

[8:52] questions before

[8:53] the vote?

[8:54] I have one quick

[8:55] question. Will this

[8:56] be funded from

[8:57] our

[8:58] Music on Maine budget that

[8:59] we have already approved? Is this

[9:00] still within that

[9:01] budget?

[9:02] This is a perfectly valid

[9:03] question, and we have just

[9:04] enough

[9:05] funds to

[9:06] cover it.

[9:07] Perfectly. I might

[9:10] just be kidding.

[9:12] I'm kidding. We have

[9:13] enough funds in

[9:14] the budget, so we will not

[9:15] go beyond it.

[9:16] Okay, we have a

[9:17] suggestion and

[9:18] support. The

[9:19] question was answered.

[9:21] Are there any more questions?

[9:22] OK. Those in favor,

[9:24] please say yes.

[9:26] Who is "against"? Okay,

[9:28] the offer is accepted.

[9:30] So, we are moving forward

[9:32] with stage rental.

[9:35] Before we

[9:35] continue, Gary,

[9:36] please ask

[9:38] Ann Marie to inform the

[9:39] fire department that we

[9:40] will not be

[9:41] using their

[9:42] stage. Fire Chief

[9:44] Kramer asked

[9:45] me

[9:46] tonight what our

[9:47] solution was.

[9:50] Yes, and by the way, I also

[9:52] got this question

[9:53] at the crab festival

[9:54] last Saturday. Will

[9:57] we need

[9:58] help from the fire

[9:59] department? They were

[10:01] very open when

[10:02] asking if

[10:03] we needed

[10:04] help. So I

[10:05] told them that we...that

[10:07] everything was under control and I

[10:08] hoped they would take

[10:09] care of it.

[10:10] Just let

[10:11] Steve know.

[10:12] Steve Crown, I don't

[10:13] know who this is.

[10:14] Steve Crown.

[10:15] Yes.

[10:15] But that was about the

[10:17] scene. The only thing

[10:18] we didn't ask about were

[10:19] chairs and tables.

[10:20] No, we rented, we

[10:21] rent tables and

[10:22] chairs.

[10:23] along with this? OK.

[10:25] Therefore.

[10:26] Need help with

[10:27] installation?

[10:28] They

[10:29] will install everything themselves.

[10:30] If I

[10:31] remember correctly, they are from the

[10:32] same company as the

[10:33] tents.

[10:34] OK.

[10:34] They will bring

[10:35] tents, set

[10:36] them up, and set up

[10:37] tables. They'll

[10:38] just leave the chairs there,

[10:40] because you understand, they

[10:41] can't be put up until the

[10:42] morning. So, do

[10:43] we need the fire

[10:45] department to

[10:45] set up 50 or 100

[10:47] chairs? I don't think so.

[10:48] I think not. OK.

[10:50] We can do it.

[10:51] Believe me, I'd

[10:52] trade the stage

[10:54] for a chair any day.

[10:55] I think Dante can.

[10:59] Okay, if everyone is

[11:00] ready, we can

[11:01] move on. Um,

[11:03] a letter terminating the

[11:04] agreement with the

[11:05] Reapers baseball club regarding the

[11:07] Lions Club field.

[11:08] Okay, give me a

[11:09] second.

[11:10] One second. So, the termination letter

[11:14] was prepared,

[11:15] reviewed, and

[11:16] approved by

[11:17] attorney

[11:17] Ostrander. The letter

[11:19] was sent to the mayor

[11:20] and council for

[11:21] review. A little

[11:24] background: The

[11:26] Reapers baseball club, under

[11:26] Stuart

[11:28] Simpson, replaced

[11:29] previous

[11:29] managers and only began

[11:31] using the

[11:32] Lions Club field in May of

[11:33] this year. Mr.

[11:39] Simpson provided

[11:39] monthly schedules

[11:40] only for May and

[11:41] June of this year,

[11:42] although he is required by the licensing

[11:44] agreement

[11:45] to provide calendars

[11:46] for the entire season. We

[11:52] didn't know exactly how

[11:53] long the Reapers

[11:53] had been using the field,

[11:55] but based on

[11:56] the inspection in late

[11:57] August, the field had

[11:58] not

[11:58] been used or

[12:00] maintained for a long time.

[12:03] Just recently,

[12:04] last week,

[12:06] Allen and I looked it over

[12:07] , and the grass in the

[12:08] outfield and around the

[12:09] benches had been, shall we say

[12:10] , roughly

[12:11] trimmed by someone

[12:12] who doesn't work for the

[12:13] utility

[12:13] company. We don't

[12:15] know who did it,

[12:16] but the condition of the field is still

[12:17] terrible. The infield

[12:19] is overgrown with grass, even though there

[12:22] wasn't any at the beginning of the year. The

[12:24] license agreement

[12:25] clearly defines

[12:26] Reapers' obligations

[12:27] regarding technical

[12:28] maintenance and

[12:30] information provision.

[12:32] Therefore, with the approval

[12:33] of the board, tomorrow I will

[12:34] send

[12:35] this letter to Mr. Simpson

[12:37] terminating the

[12:37] license agreement.

[12:42] He doesn't answer

[12:43] emails, but

[12:45] we have his address.

[12:50] OK.

[12:50] Does that

[12:52] suit you? I

[12:53] will send this. Does

[12:55] everyone agree?

[12:59] Good.

[13:00] Thank you.

[13:02] Good. Yes, item

[13:04] number three is

[13:05] exterior

[13:06] renovations at

[13:08] 211 High Street.

[13:09] Yes.

[13:11] Wood restoration

[13:12] , contract award.

[13:13] Let me

[13:17] change the subject a little. OK.

[13:22] This is actually the last

[13:24] of the first four

[13:25] requests for

[13:26] proposals, the first

[13:27] stage of tenders. So,

[13:30] the request for proposals (

[13:31] RFP) was published on

[13:33] July 7. Three

[13:34] mandatory inspections

[13:36] of the facility took place on July 20,

[13:38] 21, and 23. The

[13:40] deadline for submitting

[13:41] questions was July 30.

[13:43] We didn't receive any

[13:44] questions. The deadline for

[13:46] applications

[13:47] expired on August 7. The

[13:51] state's revitalization program grant amount for

[13:53] fiscal year 2025

[13:54] is

[13:56] $250,000. The 211 High

[13:58] Street project consists of

[13:59] four phases, and the

[14:00] exterior

[14:01] woodwork is the fourth

[14:03] phase of the four. We

[14:06] received one bid

[14:08] from JPS

[14:10] Construction for

[14:12] $7,206.50. In fact,

[14:15] it was a revised

[14:16] price offer. The

[14:21] original bid

[14:22] was $10,295, but

[14:24] they planned on

[14:25] woodwork on the

[14:26] existing facade, which is

[14:28] recessed under the

[14:29] arch. I discussed

[14:35] this with the mayor and the

[14:36] public works director. We do

[14:40] n't know what we

[14:41] will do with this during the

[14:42] internal

[14:42] renovation. I know

[14:46] that the council members want

[14:48] to make a beautiful facade.

[14:51] So we asked them

[14:53] to remove that portion,

[14:55] and the application amount

[14:56] was reduced to

[14:58] $7,206.50. So, we

[15:02] discussed this in

[15:03] our first of

[15:04] several meetings

[15:05] tonight. We

[15:08] met with

[15:09] the fire department and

[15:10] reviewed all the

[15:11] costs incurred,

[15:12] namely the payment for

[15:13] dismantling. It is

[15:16] complete.

[15:19] Including the balance,

[15:21] we will have

[15:23] $129,358.50 of the $250,000

[15:24] after completing the

[15:26] next three

[15:28] phases of the project. Em.

[15:35] So I'm asking for a vote to

[15:37] approve JPS Construction

[15:39] for the exterior

[15:40] woodwork.

[15:43] Okay, you've heard

[15:44] the information regarding

[15:45] exterior

[15:47] woodwork. Em. The

[15:51] mayor is awaiting

[15:52] approval of the contract

[15:54] with JPS Construction.

[15:59] Okay, I'm making

[16:01] a proposal to award a

[16:02] contract for exterior

[16:05] woodwork at

[16:06] 211 High Street to

[16:08] JPS Construction for

[16:10] $7,206.50.

[16:15] Okay, we have

[16:16] a proposal to accept the

[16:18] JPS application for the amount of 7,200,

[16:19] sorry.

[16:21] 6 dollars 60 cents.

[16:23] 6 dollars 50 cents. 6

[16:25] dollars 50 cents.

[16:27] I support.

[16:28] There is a second proposal.

[16:30] Are there any questions about

[16:31] this approval?

[16:34] I ask everyone who is "in favor"

[16:35] to say "

[16:36] yes."

[16:37] Who is against?

[16:39] Thank you.

[16:40] The decision has been made.

[16:41] Announcement about

[16:42] the start of work tomorrow.

[16:44] OK.

[16:45] One, one, one.

[16:48] Say it.

[16:49] OK. Item number

[16:53] five is a change

[16:54] order for the

[16:55] interior demolition of

[16:57] 211 High Street.

[16:59] Yes. As I just said

[17:03] , the internal dismantling

[17:04] was completed

[17:05] by Urbana Multi

[17:07] Services. We were hoping to

[17:10] get

[17:11] changes to our orders from them

[17:12] tonight, but

[17:13] they haven't provided them yet,

[17:14] so we're waiting on two

[17:15] adjustments. The first

[17:17] is a temporary support

[17:18] for a cross beam

[17:19] on the second floor,

[17:21] which has sagged, is

[17:22] cracked, and needs

[17:23] stabilization. This will be a

[17:24] temporary

[17:25] stabilization.

[17:27] Everything inside has

[17:28] been cleaned out, so we've

[17:29] removed

[17:31] a lot of

[17:31] structural supports, so to speak.

[17:33] Nothing serious,

[17:34] but there are

[17:35] a lot fewer supports there now.

[17:37] So, since there are other contractors working on the roof

[17:39] and exterior

[17:40] , we

[17:41] wanted to back that up.

[17:43] So, that's one change to

[17:44] the order—

[17:45] installing

[17:46] temporary support under

[17:47] that location. And the other one is on the

[17:49] first floor, I don't

[17:51] know if everyone has seen it,

[17:52] but everything there is stripped down to the

[17:53] bricks, and it's actually

[17:54] really cool. But they

[17:58] made lintels

[17:59] about every 4

[18:00] feet, but the

[18:01] lintels themselves were made of

[18:02] old wood.

[18:04] Mhm.

[18:05] And that wood has rotted,

[18:06] so they will replace those

[18:08] wooden lintels,

[18:09] which again are the

[18:10] structural

[18:11] support for the brickwork

[18:12] . So, those are the two

[18:15] changes to the order that

[18:16] we're waiting on. We

[18:19] need to get them and

[18:20] approve them at the

[18:21] next meeting.

[18:24] Our staff wants

[18:25] to share this with

[18:26] everyone. The experience

[18:29] with Urbana is simply

[18:30] fantastic. This is a

[18:32] top-notch company

[18:33] , honestly. And

[18:35] they are the general

[18:36] contractor. They have already

[18:37] confirmed that

[18:38] they will do the internal

[18:39] renovations and everything else.

[18:42] But just

[18:43] the communication, the guys

[18:44] who work—we're

[18:45] really, really

[18:46] happy with them. We would be

[18:49] more than happy to

[18:50] work with

[18:51] them again in the future. That's

[18:52] it.

[18:53] Good to know.

[18:55] Yes. More

[18:56] information will be provided at a

[18:57] future meeting.

[19:02] Good. Thanks for the

[19:04] update and

[19:05] information. OK.

[19:10] Item 6 is FAMLI.

[19:14] family, what we

[19:15] talked about.

[19:16] OK.

[19:17] Where we need the

[19:18] council to

[19:19] vote is whether

[19:20] the city will cover that

[19:22] 0.9% or whether we will split it

[19:23] 50/50 with the

[19:24] employees.

[19:25] Okay, I know we

[19:26] talked about this

[19:27] before. Uh-huh.

[19:28] Let's talk about this

[19:29] again.

[19:30] Good. So,

[19:31] based on gross

[19:32] payroll for

[19:33] fiscal year 2017,

[19:35] the cost to the city

[19:36] if it pays the

[19:37] full 0.9% would be

[19:38] about $4,935.

[19:40] At a 50/50 split, that's,

[19:42] you know, $2,467

[19:44] . This is mandatory. This is a

[19:45] federal requirement, we

[19:47] have to do it.

[19:49] We are a state, but it is

[19:50] mandatory for everyone

[19:52] , and we should start

[19:53] collecting these costs

[19:54] on January 1st.

[19:58] OK.

[19:59] Um, so now I

[20:00] need to

[20:01] register us and get

[20:02] things moving somehow

[20:03] . Um, we

[20:05] just need to

[20:06] make a decision

[20:07] about what we're

[20:08] going to do.

[20:10] So this amount was

[20:12] $4,900 plus

[20:14] salary, and that doesn't

[20:15] include any

[20:15] overtime, because I'm

[20:16] just basing it on the

[20:17] total for the

[20:18] city

[20:19] for the year.

[20:19] Per year. This is 0.9%.

[20:22] Good. For an employee

[20:24] or

[20:24] Well, that's if the city

[20:25] pays for everything in full.

[20:27] For an employee, it would be

[20:28] 0.45. And then the

[20:29] city pays 0.45

[20:31] if we split that.

[20:32] So this

[20:33] total is

[20:35] $4,900 all together.

[20:36] Not including

[20:37] overtime.

[20:38] Yes, that's right.

[20:39] No overtime

[20:40] for every

[20:41] employee for the entire

[20:42] year.

[20:42] Right. Are

[20:43] you all included?

[20:44] Yes, city employees

[20:45] . Well, am

[20:46] I included in this too?

[20:47] You should be, yes.

[20:48] We checked it, yes.

[20:49] I believe you.

[20:50] Yes. This This This is not as

[20:51] much as it seems,

[20:53] but it is

[20:53] 0.9% of our salary.

[20:56] Yes, I know. That's what

[20:57] I'm talking about. Yes. Yes, you're

[20:59] all included, so

[21:00] yes.

[21:01] We are already working for free.

[21:02] It is carried out in the same way as

[21:03] any

[21:04] other taxes

[21:05] you have to pay.

[21:06] The season is coming,

[21:07] Josh. Ask for a

[21:08] raise. Well,

[21:09] man. it?

[21:10] Therefore.

[21:11] Yes, I don't think this

[21:11] will be a very popular

[21:12] solution.

[21:13] Well, you haven't had a

[21:13] raise since

[21:14] I started

[21:15] working here. A

[21:15] lot of time has passed,

[21:16] but it's nothing. Nobody is

[21:18] here for the money.

[21:19] Okay, so

[21:22] Thoughts?

[21:24] Discussion?

[21:25] I have just one

[21:26] question. Not that I

[21:28] want to do that, I'm

[21:29] just asking:

[21:30] Could we make it

[21:31] so that elected

[21:32] officials pay a

[21:33] percentage and city

[21:34] staff get

[21:36] paid in full? Should

[21:38] this be the only solution

[21:40] for the city?

[21:41] Mhm.

[21:42] I don't know this

[21:43] for sure, I mean I'm not

[21:44] sure, but it would probably be

[21:46] easier to have some kind of

[21:47] single approach. Because I

[21:49] have to do

[21:51] quarterly

[21:51] reporting, and, let's say,

[21:53] if someone

[21:54] uses this, I

[21:55] think it would be

[21:56] easier if it

[21:57] were clear.

[21:59] Yes, I haven't studied it

[22:00] as thoroughly as they have,

[22:01] but I am somewhat familiar

[22:02] with the issue. And I didn't

[22:05] see anything that

[22:07] related to a

[22:07] multi-level

[22:08] structure of

[22:09] employees. You know,

[22:12] people who earn

[22:13] the most have to

[22:14] pay everything themselves, and those

[22:15] who earn

[22:16] the least can

[22:17] split the amount.

[22:18] I think it's

[22:18] fair to say

[22:19] that none of us are

[22:20] going to

[22:20] take parental

[22:21] leave

[22:21] .

[22:22] But it's not just parental

[22:23] leave

[22:24] . Anything

[22:26] you're right about

[22:27] .

[22:28] Therefore.

[22:29] That's pretty much everything

[22:30] you'd want to take

[22:31] six weeks

[22:32] off for.

[22:33] Excuse me, what, what did you

[22:34] say?

[22:35] I probably shouldn't have

[22:36] said that. I

[22:37] said that's probably how it

[22:39] looks now, and

[22:40] this is a new program, right?

[22:44] But there are family

[22:45] vacations,

[22:46] health issues, and other

[22:47] similar crises. This is a

[22:51] very broad

[22:52] formulation. So, um,

[22:54] maybe if you had

[22:56] Never mind. There are

[22:59] many, many reasons

[23:01] . It's not just

[23:02] Yes, it's not just

[23:03] health.

[23:04] using. Oh, yes,

[23:05] it's not just health.

[23:06] Newborns, if

[23:07] your parents are sick, or,

[23:09] yeah, it's just very

[23:10] broad. Yes.

[23:11] it's a lot, almost anything,

[23:13] So, I guess I have, I have

[23:14] two

[23:15] questions. Or we,

[23:18] since I'm out of the

[23:19] workforce, um,

[23:20] except here. Um, how, do other

[23:25] municipalities, and

[23:27] maybe even

[23:28] businesses, of those that are

[23:29] working,

[23:30] deal with this? And

[23:33] secondly, should it

[23:34] be all at once, or should it be

[23:35] split, or is it something that the

[23:37] city could

[23:38] phase in

[23:39] 25% this

[23:40] year and then

[23:41] I think it would be 50/50

[23:43] or

[23:44] Yeah, I think 50/50 or

[23:46] I mean, everything that

[23:47] I've seen, I'm not saying it can't

[23:48] be different,

[23:49] but I think from a

[23:50] logistics perspective for

[23:51] reporting and my

[23:52] tracking, and because

[23:53] we're going to

[23:54] do it in-

[23:55] house, not with a

[23:55] third

[23:56] party. Um, so I

[23:58] think so.

[23:59] Do we know what others

[24:01] They asked us.

[24:04] They sent it.

[24:05] They do it.

[24:06] They are

[24:07] trendsetters.

[24:08] Yes, everyone is waiting to

[24:09] see what

[24:10] but we are getting close

[24:11] to the point where we are

[24:11] running out of time for me to

[24:13] register.

[24:14] boat.

[24:14] Yes, therefore. And that's just something that would be

[24:18] beneficial if we

[24:19] implemented it to

[24:19] retain people, and it's

[24:20] just another

[24:21] benefit that we

[24:22] can add to

[24:23] our benefits. which

[24:24] I was thinking about too.

[24:25] Seeing that we had

[24:26] problems with this.

[24:27] I, I mean, the

[24:29] city's payroll has been

[24:30] growing pretty

[24:31] steadily above the rate of

[24:32] inflation over the

[24:33] last few

[24:34] years, but it's also not

[24:36] , it's not a $20,000 bump

[24:37] like health

[24:38] insurance and so on,

[24:39] so I'm inclined to

[24:42] say we just

[24:43] pay it, pay it in

[24:44] full, and

[24:45] hope that

[24:46] state law

[24:47] doesn't change to

[24:48] increase that 0.9%.

[24:49] If it changes, we'll

[24:50] have to

[24:50] look at it

[24:51] when it happens.

[24:52] Yes, yes.

[24:54] Okay, um I'll

[24:57] take

[24:57] suggestions to accept

[24:59] that we're going to

[25:00] provide 100%

[25:01] coverage for the city. with

[25:04] F M F

[25:05] FMLA, it's family, they

[25:07] call it family

[25:09] Yes, it's "family"

[25:10] through the "and", it's a coincidence.

[25:14] Okay, I'm open to

[25:15] a proposal that the

[25:17] city

[25:18] cover 100% of family

[25:20] leave.

[25:25] I will make a proposal to have the

[25:26] city cover

[25:28] 100% of family leave

[25:29] .

[25:30] Good.

[25:31] I support.

[25:32] Okay, we have a

[25:33] suggestion and

[25:33] support.

[25:34] OK.

[25:35] This is to ensure that the city

[25:36] covers 100%. Those who are "in favor

[25:37] ", please say "yes

[25:38] ".

[25:38] I have just one

[25:39] question.

[25:40] Okay, one

[25:40] question. Excuse me, I

[25:41] beg your pardon,

[25:42] let me

[25:42] go back.

[25:43] This question is more for

[25:44] our lawyer.

[25:45] Putting it this

[25:47] way, should we

[25:48] specify a specific

[25:49] time period? Because if

[25:50] we just say that

[25:52] , is that...

[25:52] I don't think that will

[25:53] obligate you to

[25:54] not make

[25:55] any changes forever. If

[25:56] they quadrupled it

[25:57] in 2 years, I do

[25:58] n't think you would be

[25:59] stuck with it.

[26:00] These are all the questions I have

[26:02] .

[26:02] Sorry to interrupt

[26:03] your question.

[26:04] OK. So, we have a

[26:05] proposal and

[26:06] support. I assume

[26:07] all questions have already

[26:09] been answered. OK.

[26:10] I ask everyone who is "in favor" to

[26:12] say "yes."

[26:13] Yes.

[26:13] Who is against? Good.

[26:16] The proposal is accepted.

[26:19] OK. Item number

[26:21] seven is mine. Uh,

[26:23] review of the charter and

[26:24] possible amendments.

[26:27] OK. Um, I'm not

[26:29] going to

[26:30] rewrite the entire

[26:31] city charter. But there are

[26:36] things that, in my

[26:37] opinion, do not

[26:38] reflect what

[26:39] we are doing now,

[26:41] particularly in terms of

[26:41] budget preparation.

[26:47] Um, I think the

[26:48] current statute

[26:49] says that the mayor or

[26:50] mayors prepare the budget,

[26:52] or have prepared

[26:53] the budget, or commission

[26:54] the preparation of the budget.

[26:59] Um, in my opinion,

[27:00] after years of

[27:01] budgeting, it's

[27:02] better to have

[27:04] someone who works

[27:05] with finances every day do it, rather than

[27:06] someone who doesn't

[27:07] . This is just my

[27:11] opinion, we don't

[27:12] necessarily have

[27:13] to change anything, but for the sake of

[27:15] ... I know it's still

[27:16] ahead, and I

[27:16] hope I can

[27:18] convince Gary

[27:19] to stay for another 5

[27:20] years. Um, I know that's

[27:25] not going to happen, and I

[27:26] want to make sure

[27:28] we have everything ready

[27:29] for his successor,

[27:31] even though he says that...Did you

[27:32] say 2029?

[27:36] I was just putting it off

[27:38] .

[27:40] Only for a year. So, no,

[27:42] seriously, um, I think

[27:44] this process

[27:45] will start

[27:46] next year. I

[27:47] know what will begin

[27:49] , because that's exactly how I

[27:50] imagined it. So I want

[27:55] the person who

[27:56] actually prepares

[27:57] the budget...I would like the

[27:58] documents or the code

[27:59] to reflect what we are

[28:01] actually doing

[28:02] now and have been doing

[28:03] for the last 10

[28:04] years.

[28:08] At least 10.

[28:11] So, having said that,

[28:13] the section that I was

[28:14] looking at is the

[28:15] section, it's

[28:16] in

[28:17] Mayor's Section C 4-4 E,

[28:18] regarding the preparation of the

[28:19] budget by the mayor. I don't

[28:23] want to give

[28:24] the impression that I'm abdicating

[28:26] responsibility. I

[28:28] want it

[28:29] written so that the mayor

[28:30] still has control

[28:31] and can

[28:33] come in and

[28:34] audit the budget at any time, and that

[28:38] responsibility

[28:39] should not change.

[28:43] Uh, the mayor needs to

[28:44] do some

[28:45] consistent

[28:46] budget review. But I want it to

[28:50] reflect what

[28:51] we are doing now and have

[28:52] done before. This, this,

[28:57] so, uh...

[28:59] This probably goes back to

[29:01] when we didn't

[29:02] have city

[29:03] managers, and, you know,

[29:04] I talked to the mayor.

[29:06] I remember Mayor Pierce

[29:07] bringing in a

[29:08] three-page budget. This is what the

[29:10] budget is. Mayor

[29:12] Gallo always made

[29:13] the budget himself. Uh

[29:16] , maybe there are a

[29:17] few more sections in the

[29:18] charter that we

[29:19] should look at. I'm not

[29:22] talking about a massive

[29:23] rewriting of

[29:24] the charter. But if you're

[29:26] going to

[29:26] review, it makes

[29:28] sense to do so if

[29:29] you have three or four

[29:30] sections that

[29:31] need updating

[29:32] . We can do this

[29:33] in one

[29:35] bylaw resolution because a

[29:36] bylaw resolution is

[29:37] adopted differently

[29:38] than bylaws. They

[29:39] also need to

[29:39] be sent to

[29:40] Annapolis, not for

[29:41] review or change, but

[29:42] at least to

[29:43] make sure

[29:44] they are recorded. So it

[29:45] makes sense to approach

[29:46] this a little more

[29:47] globally than

[29:48] looking at one

[29:49] section at a time, because that's quite

[29:50] cumbersome. We

[29:52] may have other things

[29:53] that state that certain

[29:54] people do them,

[29:55] even though in reality that is

[29:56] no longer the case. So it would be

[29:59] helpful if elected

[30:00] officials

[30:01] would look at this too and

[30:02] see if there is anything

[30:03] that raises questions

[30:04] or something that you have never

[30:06] seen or would like to

[30:07] change, and then we

[30:08] can discuss it

[30:09] all together.

[30:14] Yes, thank you for saying

[30:16] that, because that's what I was leading up to

[30:17] , to have you

[30:18] evaluate it with your own perspective,

[30:20] because obviously you're going to be the ones

[30:22] making the decisions,

[30:23] but I wanted to at least get

[30:25] it started. Is this

[30:32] acceptable? I thought I had a

[30:35] great idea there.

[30:38] And I think that's how

[30:39] a lot of

[30:40] government agencies

[30:41] that are bigger than

[30:42] New Windsor, say,

[30:44] twenty or more

[30:45] years ago, work—the city

[30:46] government prepares

[30:47] a budget because they

[30:48] know when to

[30:50] replace equipment,

[30:51] when to buy,

[30:52] how much salt costs.

[30:54] I can't say

[30:55] how much the salt costs,

[30:57] but I know Wayne

[30:58] could tell us,

[30:59] and then they

[31:00] present it to the

[31:01] mayor and council, and we

[31:02] approve it.

[31:04] Yeah, again, I

[31:05] just...whoever succeeds me

[31:08] in 6 years, I don't

[31:09] want them to have to

[31:10] deal with my

[31:11] problems. He doesn't

[31:21] object. He doesn't

[31:23] say "no." OK.

[31:28] So, okay. Thank you

[31:30] all. And let's take

[31:32] a look. That's all

[31:34] we have for questions...

[31:35] Want to

[31:37] go through them quickly? Future

[31:38] meetings?

[31:38] Yes.

[31:39] Future meetings.

[31:40] Wednesday, October 7—

[31:41] council meeting.

[31:42] Monday, October 19—

[31:44] working session. And on

[31:46] November 4th, the next

[31:48] council meeting.

[31:51] And I don't usually

[31:52] always come to the

[31:53] working sessions, but I

[31:54] know I won't be

[31:55] at the October session.

[32:00] OK. I had

[32:02] one thing...this

[32:02] invitation. If I

[32:06] can find him

[32:07] again. We

[32:10] actually have a new

[32:12] business, uh...

[32:14] So this is our camping and

[32:16] canoeing on Falls Lake.

[32:19] I'll have to

[32:20] do it.

[32:21] Councilman Schultz, I'm

[32:23] referring to the new business

[32:24] that's moving into the

[32:25] Brotherhood Center.

[32:28] Yes. Yes, we received an

[32:30] email about

[32:31] this.

[32:32] What will happen there? Did

[32:33] you get one?

[32:34] Yes. Did

[32:35] you receive this

[32:36] invitation?

[32:36] I didn't

[32:37] need it. It looks like they

[32:39] sent it out to everyone,

[32:40] but I'm not sure.

[32:42] Oh, yes.

[32:43] Find him.

[32:44] Yes, I got it. Thank you.

[32:51] So, on September 18th, a couple of

[32:52] days ago, I received an

[32:53] email from

[32:54] Allison Redner, she's

[32:56] writing on

[32:57] behalf of CMMB, which is the

[32:58] Catholic

[32:59] Medical Missions Board, Inc., a

[33:00] global

[33:01] health and

[33:03] development organization that has been serving

[33:04] communities around the

[33:05] world for over 100 years.

[33:15] She wanted to

[33:15] introduce herself and

[33:16] the company as a new

[33:18] neighbor in New Windsor

[33:19] , and here it says, "We

[33:20] have opened a new

[33:21] drug distribution center in New

[33:22] Windsor,

[33:23] operating out of a

[33:24] leased

[33:25] space from the Church of the

[33:26] Brethren." In short

[33:31] , she has an

[33:32] invitation for all of

[33:34] us for Thursday,

[33:35] October 22nd. I have no

[33:36] information about the time.

[33:38] Yes.

[33:38] But I plan

[33:39] to visit it, Kim.

[33:40] So,

[33:42] Councilman Schultz's position.

[33:43] Let us know when you

[33:44] 'll

[33:45] RSVP,

[33:45] ask her about the time,

[33:47] because yes.

[33:47] I'll try to go too

[33:48] if I'm in town.

[33:50] So she hoped

[33:52] to meet everyone

[33:53] who wanted to come. I

[33:56] thought it would be

[33:57] good to visit. So

[33:59] I'll contact her and

[34:00] tell her I'll definitely be

[34:01] there. And if you're interested

[34:05] , I'll find out the date

[34:06] and time, and we'll see.

[34:09] From the way

[34:10] her

[34:11] email was worded,

[34:12] it seems they are still

[34:12] being determined.

[34:13] So, that's all I have

[34:15] before going into

[34:16] closed session. Are there any

[34:18] questions about

[34:19] any upcoming events

[34:20] or...

[34:22] No.

[34:23] questions.

[34:24] OK. Uh... Oh

[34:29] , in case anyone's wondering,

[34:30] I was asked to

[34:31] mention that tomorrow

[34:32] Uncle Maddie's is sponsoring a

[34:33] talk by Sam Riley,

[34:35] who, if his name

[34:36] were anything else, would be Sam

[34:37] Shriver Riley, a very

[34:38] active member of the

[34:40] Shriver family from Union

[34:41] Mills, who will be giving

[34:42] a presentation on

[34:43] taverns in

[34:44] Carroll County.

[34:47] Oh, cool.

[34:49] Taverns along

[34:50] Tavern Road or

[34:51] something. I'm not exactly

[34:52] sure. It will be at

[34:54] Uncle Maddie's from 6:30 to 8:00. From

[34:57] 6:00 to 7:30.

[35:01] There is a

[35:02] registration page on the Carroll Library page, but

[35:03] I don't have it.

[35:06] Uncle Maddie's is well

[35:07] known in the beer

[35:08] community for its

[35:09] wide selection of very

[35:10] good beers.

[35:12] I'll share this

[35:14] on the city page now.

[35:15] Yes, put it there.

[35:17] I had my first

[35:19] glass of Orval...what's it

[35:20] called? Was it

[35:22] Trappist beer?

[35:24] Yes.

[35:28] It's a brave new world.

[35:30] Taverns and wine. This is

[35:32] interesting.

[35:33] And bourbon.

[35:34] I also drank some

[35:35] bourbon there.

[35:36] I know. I've

[35:38] liked it ever since.

[35:39] speech We are talking

[35:41] about the other property

[35:42] you wanted to

[35:43] talk about. OK.

[35:44] Right. It was

[35:45] just an intervention on

[35:46] my part.

[35:47] OK. OK. If

[35:50] there are no other questions

[35:52] or comments regarding

[35:53] upcoming events, I

[35:54] will accept the motion

[35:55] to move to a closed

[35:57] session. According to the

[35:59] general

[36:00] provisions, article

[36:02] 3-305, paragraph b, subparagraph 1

[36:03] . Namely: to discuss

[36:07] the appointment of an

[36:08] official to a

[36:09] vacant seat on the council

[36:10] .

[36:11] I am making this proposal

[36:12] .

[36:13] Good. Proposal

[36:14] regarding...

[36:14] I support it.

[36:15] The proposal

[36:16] was supported. Who is "for"?

[36:17] Is that you, Don?

[36:18] By.

[36:19] OK.

[36:20] Good. Is anyone

[36:22] against it?

[36:23] OK.

[36:24] Let's move to a

[36:25] closed session.

[37:41] Ugh.

New Windsor Town Council Work Session 9-21-2026

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