Regular Council Meeting - February 18, 2025

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[0:03] I'd like to welcome each one here this evening for the public we're having a
[0:08] virtual meeting due to the inclement weather that we're having this day and
[0:13] as was mentioned the counselors if you if I don't see you uh just talk out if I
[0:18] don't see your hand thank you so i' like to begin the meeting by acknowledge land
[0:24] which We Gather is the territory of the Nisha Wabi udawa and Miss Saga peoples
[0:30] number two I'll let our CEO talk about this
[0:38] please thank you your warship so um the the agenda has been amended to include
[0:44] as item two an electronic meeting authorizing resolution so under North
[0:48] uran's procedure bylaw this gives Council the ability to hold a fully
[0:52] electronic meeting by passing a resolution to do so so as such it's our
[0:57] first item of business uh so the motions before Council uh but I guess for the
[1:02] benefit of the public um so uh when Council passes this motion it allows for
[1:07] fully virtual participation um council's able to um participate fully and count
[1:14] towards Quorum and then all meetings tonight will be through a recorded vote
[1:18] so it's clear how each member is voting during the electronic meeting so motion
[1:23] for council's consideration that the Council of the township of North hon
[1:26] hereby directs for the Tuesday February 18th 202 regular council meeting
[1:31] including the closed session meeting to be held through electronic means due to
[1:35] inclement weather may have the
[1:39] Mover councelor Palmer councelor Vin hitson turn over CAO please so I will
[1:45] now call the recorded vote so Deputy ree Falconer yes councelor MC
[1:53] Bernie muted Baris councelor Palmer yes van
[2:00] hson yes councelor Whitfield yes councelor
[2:05] Wright yes and REE Halford yes so that motion carries seven to
[2:12] zero confirmation of the agenda that the Council of Township of North hean hereby
[2:17] approves the agenda for February 18th 2025 council meeting as amended may have
[2:23] a mover councelor
[2:26] Wickfield councelor Wright go ahead
[2:32] C thank you your warship so councelor MC Bernie yes councelor
[2:40] Palmer yes councelor van hitson yes councelor Whitfield yes councel Wright
[2:48] yes Deputy ree Falconer yes and REE haer yes so that motion carries 7 to
[2:56] zero okay this time we'll go to number five consent agenda that the Council of
[3:00] the township of North year hereby adopts just disclosure of pecuniary Interest
[3:05] first oh yes disclosure of prary interest in general nature
[3:11] thereof being none consent agenda that the Council of
[3:16] Township of North here and hereby adopts consent items
[3:20] 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 and further that the Council of the township of North here
[3:25] hereby receives consent items 4.1.3 to 4. 3.5 for information purposes may have
[3:33] a
[3:35] mover Deputy reev counselor Wright at this time um would you like to pull
[3:42] anything from the
[3:46] agenda seeing none go ahead CAO oh pardon me pardon me can we pull
[3:55] 5.3.1 it's the autism Ontario um that touches some families
[4:01] it's touched our family um so can we pull it can we pull it and just send a
[4:07] letter of support for the proclamation of its
[4:11] day thank you that is duly noted Okay C so provided the Mover and
[4:20] the seconder are fine with it so that's Deputy Reef Falconer and Council right
[4:24] your new motion would be that the Council of the township of North here
[4:28] and hereby adopts consent item 5.1.1 to
[4:34] 5.1.2 and further that the Council of the township of North Heron hereby
[4:37] receives consent items 5.1.3 to
[4:42] 5.3.5 exclusive of 5.3.1 for information purposes thank you we'll have a recorded
[4:50] vote now so uh just confirming that the Mover Deputy Falconer and the second or
[4:55] Council WR are fine with that Amendment yes yes I am okay so that's your motion
[5:00] so I will now call the recorded vote so councelor Palmer yes councelor van hiton
[5:07] yes councel Whitfield yes councelor Wright yes Deputy ree Falconer yes
[5:15] councelor MC Burney yes and REE heer yes so that motion carries seven to zero so
[5:22] then your second motion that the Council of the township of North Heron hereby
[5:25] direct staff to send a letter of support for agenda item 5.3.1
[5:30] so you have councel Palmer as a mover and you're looking for a seconder and
[5:34] that will be may I have a seconder please
[5:38] councelor Wright please thank you and now it's yours uh
[5:48] CAO thank you warship so councelor van hiton yes
[5:54] councelor Whitfield yes councelor Wright yes Deputy re Falconer yes yes councelor
[6:00] mcnie yes councilor Palmer yes and REE heer yes so that motion carries seven to
[6:08] zero thank you we can move on to staff reports
[6:14] 7.3.1 rc- 202-02 North Hine westc Community
[6:21] complex scope of design work for the Court's
[6:26] revitalization may have a mover in in second before we go to any questions for
[6:31] our director stce I councelor Ben hiton Deputy
[6:36] ree okay at this time I'll go forward are there any questions for our director
[6:41] stce at this
[6:47] time go ahead councelor mcnie yes in regards to the usage of those carts can
[6:54] we not maintain the squash cart as well for what you have planned
[7:00] through you ree heer uh to councelor MCM Bernie uh this the design and the space
[7:07] available would not um allow for both to coexist because squash courts require
[7:14] four walls we would have to find a way to build a retractable wall and I don't
[7:19] believe that there's the space or the budget to be able to do that at this
[7:23] time okay thank thank you go ahead uh councelor MCB Bernie yes well going
[7:30] further like the usage the usage for the squash carts is actually climbing and
[7:37] you got baton and all that moving in there but then where they're playing
[7:41] baton now and stuff there's going to be less use
[7:45] elsewhere just seems they're moving in on the squash that's all that's just my
[7:50] feeling y thank you yep go ahead councelor Palmer please
[7:56] yeah thank you re um I I was feeling solid about this um till
[8:03] I started reading the um the letters that came in the emails that came in and
[8:10] it's always good to hear what other points of view are um you know we did
[8:14] hear that um listol was was closed closing theirs so that would could add a
[8:21] number to come this way but um I guess the point that's up
[8:28] bothering me is if we make these changes to
[8:33] badmington and basketball and whatever pickable um like it was
[8:41] mentioned in one of the emails it's free elsewhere like three quarters of the
[8:45] year it's free elsewhere
[8:50] and I could see usage for happening in the winter and I'm a little concerned
[8:57] that it will fall off uh as we as the weather gets warmer so then are we any
[9:04] further ahead um I I would love to see a grace
[9:08] period and now I realize that we're we have the like the Vance fund the timing
[9:13] is is becoming an issue but uh
[9:17] oh a grace period would be nice then to test these emails if they're true if
[9:24] it's really going to happen eh but um it sounds like we need to make an make a a
[9:31] decision now so anyways those are my points hey thank you I saw Deputy ree
[9:37] you had your hand up please yeah thank you ree um I know it it always happens
[9:42] this way is that you know you only get feedback when you're when you decide to
[9:47] make a a a change in something I was just wonder if uh
[9:52] if Kelly if you could just give us some background on there was no uh there
[9:57] there was uh less usage of the the Squash Courts uh for uh for northan to
[10:07] consider changing it or making other improvements to that
[10:12] space uh and now now we're just getting uh I believe there was 20 people that uh
[10:19] said that they were into uh playing squash you know you know 20 people is
[10:25] not going to make that that space uh you know at tall uh uh uh you know for the
[10:31] usage of what what we have can you give us some background as to uh how much
[10:35] usage it was getting prior to uh this decision to make it uh make us think of
[10:40] changing it thank you through you we have her to Deputy re
[10:45] FAL um as you know um or may recall in the master plan that was produced in
[10:51] 2021 it identified uh a Slowdown in usage at that point in time uh and when
[10:59] um we brought when staff brought the report back to Council in August um to
[11:04] seek direction from Council about applying to the Vance fund we had seen
[11:08] really low usage um with the the courts it is self-served so you can kind of get
[11:13] in there we don't know what people go in and play um ex exactly but we were
[11:19] seeing um you know people wanting to access this space um during the daytime
[11:25] I remember somebody wanting to come in and and uh play basketball in the
[11:29] daytime because he was working in town um that unfortunately uh to to counselor
[11:36] Palmer's point it it wouldn't be able to happen um because of our reciprocal
[11:41] agreement with the school board um that only allows for usage in the evenings uh
[11:46] during the school year so there are some limitations on the availability of those
[11:51] other sports um in throughout the year but we came to to council with solid um
[11:58] information that that the the usage um of the Courts for the game of squash had
[12:04] really declined it we I don't have numbers unfortunately and I think that
[12:08] that also is is part of the challenge we had as as council is well aware um of
[12:13] our our registration system in the last
[12:17] year thank you uh councelor Ben hitson you had a point there please yes thank
[12:22] you ree effer to um Miss St um this um this is only for the scope of design
[12:29] work for the courts do we really have to point out right now that we want pickle
[12:34] ball basketball batminton or squash or do we have to look first uh what is
[12:39] possible because of the leak that is going on there and how much that's going
[12:43] to cost to repair or is that a totally different um cost to the
[12:48] municipality whatever change we make three your worship a couple of of
[12:55] points there I um so I I'll speak to the the leak first um we are seeing as uh we
[13:01] all are very well aware um a lot of snow this year and so the snow loading on the
[13:07] roof it's a flat roof at the complex and so we're finding that the snow loing at
[13:11] that um uh Spa is contributing to some leaks we have had um some companies come
[13:19] in and they have provided that feedback to us um and during this past year we
[13:24] weren't able to get to some of the maintenance work that we wanted to and
[13:27] so that's also contributing we do have a plan coming forward that
[13:31] will be presented to council during budget time that will um allow for us to
[13:36] do a better assessment of the of the roof but a lot of it we're seeing is
[13:40] because of the snow loading and that's it's not just at the
[13:43] complex um to to your other point about the scope of of funding um the the our
[13:50] application to the Vance fund was very specific when we needed to be we needed
[13:54] to be extremely um specific in what we were applying for
[13:59] and I had a chance to speak with the um the the fund manager um at the Vance
[14:05] fund and um should we should Council sorry excuse me should Council decide to
[14:12] change the scope of the project um the the funding would have to be returned
[14:18] and there would be impacts to the township on the ability to apply for
[14:22] Grants at future time I would say that at you know when Council made this
[14:27] decision and directed staff on August 12th we came at it with you know
[14:32] information that there was very low usage so with the information that
[14:37] Council had at the time uh the decision was prudent and um allowed you know
[14:44] certainly was well thought of within the information that was available and the
[14:47] usage patterns good thank you thank you
[14:51] councelor Wright please yeah thanks ree um so really just a a comment more than
[14:57] a question but um so I was actually out there with the family on the weekend um
[15:04] playing squash uh so you know I I actually enjoy the game
[15:09] myself um but to some of the other points that were raised uh this is a
[15:14] long-term trend of declining usage for squash right staff been looking at it
[15:19] since 2021 um and you know my feeling is you
[15:25] know you just have to react to these long term Trends right we
[15:30] we don't have Lawn Bowling courts around town anymore because that sport went out
[15:34] of favor right so um you know I think it's unfortunate
[15:39] that we can't do everything for everyone but uh to uh director sc's Point yes
[15:44] there is a lot of pickle ball in town you know me and my family play that um
[15:48] but it is a lot of the usage is restricted to
[15:52] evenings uh through the week right because the facilities the schools just
[15:56] aren't open uh you know a lot of weekends and a lot of weekdays so you
[16:01] know this will provide extra extra flexibility you know for people that
[16:06] want to play those Sports at uh at different
[16:10] times thank you councelor Palmer go ahead yeah thank you re
[16:17] um H how do we want to fund this like like for the Fe I know we discussed fees
[16:24] later but um it'd be nice to know what you're thinking Kelly like like this is
[16:30] going to cost people unless they have a
[16:33] membership overall membership then they're fine but for anyone else that
[16:39] want to do Bonton or whatever um I guess the question is will they accept pay and
[16:46] pay to play or or not through through you reev heord to
[16:52] counselor Palmer um we currently have people um on fees and charges there is a
[16:59] fee to utilize the courts you could either purchase a daily rate or a
[17:03] monthly rate and we are finding that people are purchasing that to you know
[17:08] even now um to to play the um sports or the or to use the space as available um
[17:16] but that is also the direction that Council has provided is to seek um you
[17:21] know um user pay system and uh right now that's kind of where
[17:28] we're going and it seems to be working
[17:32] well thank you I just like to add to that I had a young lad I down there with
[17:37] my grandson and he came and say oh he just loves going out and whenever he can
[17:41] he'll just go and get a pay to go and play basketball so people are out there
[17:47] doing that and uh and uh that yep that's all I have to say to that thank
[17:53] you okay was there anything else councelor MC Bernie yes you re in
[17:58] regards to uh gathering this information since 21 we had a few things going on
[18:03] that time of year that time in our a CO Etc did that not affect the numbers when
[18:13] you're trying to figure that out or not out
[18:18] anyway okay would you like to comment on that uh director's s
[18:23] please certainly through you Reef have for to councilor MC Bernie and um I say
[18:29] the master plan was developed uh I believe it was uh pre pandemic and so
[18:33] was using some uh usage patterns leading up to that
[18:38] time um and and since then um you know it's been more anecdotal about who we
[18:44] can um try and see that is is coming through the doors and up until about a
[18:50] month ago um usage patterns were really low um and um and that's what you know
[18:57] feedback I got from all levels of Staff thank you okay this time I see no more
[19:03] hands up I'll I'll go to uh our our CAO at this time we have
[19:10] remover and seconder yes thank you your worship So currently uh your mover is
[19:15] councelor van hitome and your second is Deputy ree Falconer uh so if there's no
[19:19] other questions for director stce I will call the vote uh so again the motion on
[19:25] the floor is that the Council of Township of North hon hereby receives
[19:27] the report prepared by the director dor of recreation and Children's Services
[19:30] dated February 18th 2025 regarding the scope of the design work for the courts
[19:34] revitalization at the North here and West cast Community
[19:38] complex and further that Council directs the director of recreation and
[19:41] Children's Services to obtain quotes for preparation of the architectural and
[19:45] design layout for revitalization of the Court space at the North uran West cast
[19:49] Community complex into a multi-use space designed for the following Sports
[19:53] recreation activities pickle ball basketball and badminton so I now call
[19:59] the recorded vote so councelor Whitfield yes councelor rright yes
[20:06] Deputy ree Falconer yes Council MC Bernie no councelor
[20:13] Palmer yes councelor van hitson yes and REE heer yes so that motion carries six
[20:21] to one with the no being councelor
[20:27] mcburnie thank you we move on to 7.3.2 CC
[20:32] 20253 by daily care expansion Next Step may I have a
[20:40] mover counc Deputy re faler councelor MC Bernie and at this time uh we'll go to
[20:49] are there any questions with this for director stce at this time go ahead
[20:53] counselor R yeah thank you re um so just a
[20:58] question question on the proposed layout or
[21:01] footprint um is is that does that just cover the building or um like is there
[21:08] going to be I think there's going to be an attached playground area to the
[21:12] building as well so I just wondered is this just the building or a building and
[21:16] playground uh with the footprint it's going to take
[21:20] up through you Reef heer to celor right um the drawing was not uh drawn to scale
[21:26] oh
[21:34] I will continue even though my camera is not working um the drawing was not drawn
[21:37] to scale and so um the estimate that um there would be 33 lost uh camping spots
[21:44] was an estimate that um once we better understand the exact footprint um we
[21:50] will be able to come back to council with more uh specific information but
[21:54] you are correct this would be a building and an outdoor playground
[22:00] thank you councelor Palmer please yeah thank you Reeve now should we should we
[22:05] be thinking down the road is a possible use for um Library as well or are we
[22:11] give where are we in that department that I know it's not part of this motion
[22:16] but when you're dealing with a building you only want to build it
[22:21] once director SE would you like to add to that please through you Reef hefford
[22:27] to counselor Palmer there are a few things that that I've asked the
[22:31] um that we we could include in the tender and when I initially met with um
[22:36] this business on site I had talked about um scaling up we are you know have um an
[22:44] application into the county for 26 spaces but depending on the growth of
[22:51] the town of BL we may you know Council may want to consider in a future design
[22:56] phase um the growth either of the daycare or other options and so
[23:02] certainly we can uh look to include that uh that that as a as a potential scope
[23:09] uh not full out design but that in the design it allows for
[23:14] expansion okay thank you councelor mcgurn please yes thank you Reed uh to
[23:19] Kelly uh in regards to the location stuff what's it going to look like when
[23:24] the thrashes kind of curious because those thrashes just just
[23:30] for so my understand through you ree hefford to counselor MC Bernie my
[23:35] understanding is the um usage of the campground hasn't U achieved capacity
[23:41] during the thresher week for some time so the loss of 33 spaces potentially
[23:47] would be uh minimal in comparison to the usage um but should
[23:53] Council provide direction for me to proceed with the request for proposals
[23:58] uh my next stop is to meet with the the Threshers and and talk about what does
[24:02] this look like um a daycare in the community as we know is uh offers a lot
[24:08] and so how can we work together and in tandem to make this a
[24:13] win-win okay thank you thank you uh councelor Whitfield then councelor
[24:18] rright yeah I just have a couple of questions um how we're going to man this
[24:24] place because we can't get enough people here in Wingham as it is the these
[24:28] people are hard to get a hold of do you have any plans on
[24:32] getting being able to recruit these people and everything to run this
[24:37] place through you ree heer to to councelor Whitfield it um employment um
[24:43] we will need to hire three to four um ECE workers so so our our registered ECE
[24:49] workers as well as a cook um and a supervisor for this
[24:55] location and so it certainly is something top of mind but what hearing
[24:58] is that uh working for the township of North Huron uh we are a preferred
[25:03] employer and uh certainly I will be looking to um our inter manager Tiffany
[25:09] to assist with um the recruitment um but that won't we won't wait till the end
[25:14] we're going to start right away um once we have uh once we're further along a
[25:20] little bit more thank you councelor right
[25:25] please yeah just just a thought um it's it's kind of on top of what
[25:30] councelor MC Bernie said but um director stat when you're talking to the
[25:35] Threshers um I think care has to be or consider consideration has to be given
[25:41] to how this daycare is going to function during the week of the Threshers uh
[25:45] because that's a very busy area right so um just consideration of safe drop off
[25:51] zones uh for the kids and things like that um you know congestion carries risk
[25:57] right so just something to talk about as far as um you know the layout when we
[26:03] get into design you know the layout of where the entrances are uh you know
[26:08] visibility all those kinds of things um you know 51 weeks of the year I think
[26:13] this will be a great and you know it's a little used spot but that for that one
[26:18] week um have to have some uh plans for how the daycare is going to operate
[26:23] during that week through you your worship uh uh
[26:28] Point well taken and it will I will put that on my agenda for discussion thank
[26:32] you thank okay see no hands at this time I'll turn over to you CAO please thank
[26:40] you your warship so your mover is Deputy Falconer and your secondary is councelor
[26:44] MC Bernie so if there's no other questions I'll call the recorded vote so
[26:49] councelor Wright yes Deputy re Falconer yes councelor MC Bernie yes councelor
[26:56] Palmer yes councelor van Henderson yes councelor Whitfield yes and REE heer yes
[27:04] so that motion carries 7 to zero thank you we'll go on to
[27:11] 7.4.1 Public Works 20258 recycling transition Direction
[27:17] regarding the non-eligible sources before we go to asking director Wilson
[27:23] will just uh I'll get a mover please mover please
[27:28] councelor MC Bernie councelor Wright okay are there any questions for
[27:33] director Wilson at this
[27:37] time maybe I'll just let director Wilson just talk talk uh a little bit about
[27:42] this just go
[27:46] ahead uh thanks and through you ree heer um through the producer responsibility
[27:52] the transition uh time has come now for North uran for the non- eliges which is
[28:00] the industrial commercial and institutional and as of April 1st they
[28:04] will no longer be uh collect it without having uh a fee attached to it they can
[28:11] uh waste management is subbed in from uh Blue Water Recycling and they can co-
[28:17] collect but they want they have to be paid for the uh non-eligible between
[28:22] April and the end of December okay thank you okay okay we go
[28:28] to councelor Ben Henderson then councelor R please thank you reer to um
[28:33] director Wilson please um I see on the non-eligible list uh at the bottom it
[28:38] says commercial farms uh who is deciding what a commercial Farm is and um most
[28:44] Farms have houses on there so they are driving around to collect the
[28:48] recyclables from um from the
[28:52] houses but to my knowledge commercial Farms never could put any garbage on the
[28:57] side of the road
[29:00] per you ree heer the uh everything has been decided through circular materials
[29:06] and circular materials is now looking after all the recycling within Ontario
[29:11] and they are deciding who is the non- eligibles and who is eligible so if the
[29:17] farm were collected as the household then that will be continued but as far
[29:24] as any if it's if it's classified in there then that all came through
[29:28] circular materials Ontario and how can uh residents find
[29:33] that out if you live in rural Ontario they would uh have to contact
[29:40] circular materials Ontario or they can contact their their municipality and
[29:45] their municipality can certainly contact whoever their um whoever's going to be
[29:51] picking it up for hurin and Perth it's all through Blue Water Recycling and
[29:56] then if they're in Bruce County it's through Waste Management that's who it
[30:00] was awarded to from circular materials okay okay thank you councelor
[30:07] Wright I think you had your hand up yes thank you ree so you know I understand
[30:12] the the need right obviously there's eligible and
[30:16] ineligible sources and they do need to be kept separate but you know just
[30:21] practically speaking um like how do we know who's
[30:25] who and what's what if a blue bin gets set on Main Street
[30:29] Wingham right how do we know if that's from a residential use or from a a
[30:35] restaurant um like like is there is there an element of enforcement
[30:42] to this right or you know how how does the recycling company know you know um
[30:48] or or are they going to try to discriminate between you know the boxes
[30:52] left out in front of a of a of a restaurant versus you know they think
[30:58] it's an apartment just curious on that uh through you reev heer that it's it is
[31:04] going to be what I would regard as I guess the honor System moving forward
[31:09] and it is I asked that same question regarding if there was an apartment
[31:14] above and they were putting recycling out then they it it really is the honor
[31:20] System but what uh the uh Public Works administrative assistant is doing right
[31:26] now through empac is getting the number number of uh businesses in North yon so
[31:31] we can provide that to waste management so they can give us a number on what it
[31:35] would be to collect these uh ICI moving forward and I believe what they're going
[31:42] to do in the future if you're going to collect ICI as there would be even a
[31:46] different colored bin for businesses compared to the blue box or whatever bin
[31:53] is going to be available for residential
[31:57] Kate Kate counselor Palmer please yeah thank you ree um to
[32:02] chip um will this be considered a cost recovery uh formula or will there be a
[32:09] cost recovery formula uh no there won't be a cost
[32:13] recovery it'll be uh if you want to provide the service to the IC it would
[32:20] be at the cost of the
[32:24] municipality okay Deputy Reed please uh thank you sir um yeah my question would
[32:30] be along the same same lines as Council Palmer there U is what's the the
[32:38] financial uh impact or uh switching over to this this method where we we were
[32:44] paying the waste management system to pick up the garbage on for on and
[32:49] recycles on behalf of North hon now when it's being shifted over to the uh the
[32:56] manufacturer supposed to pay for that recycling portion are we going to see a
[33:01] reduction in our costs now that that is being passed on to the to the
[33:07] manufacturer uh through you the re this would now for for instance the uh bins
[33:13] that are currently out at the landfill we would be North hean used to get an
[33:18] invoice from Waste Management that invoice now will be going directly to
[33:23] Circular materials so the the garbage propotion
[33:28] portion of that is still paid for by the municipality through bag tags correct
[33:33] that's correct thank you coun R
[33:38] please um yeah so so just curious right so um uh the recycling bins at um at the
[33:49] that are at the at the at the waste facility there so are we going to have
[33:54] to have two bins of everything for elig and non non-eligible users or are we
[34:01] going to prevent the ICI people from putting recycling at the at the dump
[34:07] like how's how's that going to work well through you ree heer that's another
[34:13] situation where the bins that are currently at our landfill are not going
[34:18] to be eligible for anybody any ICI so same thing it's we're the plan isn't to
[34:27] police it the plan is that people will understand that you just don't bring
[34:31] them out so be it I guess if some if some do bring it out then it's same
[34:36] thing it's on the honor System unless the municipality or whoever has these
[34:41] Depot agreements want to police it and then a followup to that how many
[34:48] industrial properties do we have um uh in North hon or been classified as
[34:55] industrial um and to be honest you know my thought is um you know do we want to
[35:01] provide a service to say a restaurant owner uh somebody running a small a
[35:06] small store um yes you know probably because um it would be very honorous for
[35:12] them to come up with their own recycling uh program but um you know to be honest
[35:18] if West cast was still um um operating and I guess they star in some reduced
[35:24] capacity you know it would make sense for them to uh you know have have their
[35:29] own recycling service you know Etc so I just wonder if if and I don't know if
[35:35] you know the number off the top of your head but I mean I I guess from an
[35:39] opinion would that make sense to you what you know the program chip that we
[35:44] you know would it make sense to potentially exclude um industrial
[35:48] properties uh through you ree I don't have those numbers as I uh said uh a
[35:54] little while ago that the uh administrative assistant is deal dealing
[35:57] with empac right now to acquire all the industrial commercial and
[36:02] institutional uh businesses that are within North hon and some businesses
[36:08] that may be a larger business as uh you refer to West cast they may have their
[36:14] own recycling bin because of the amount of recycling that they do have and I
[36:19] know that that's um something that I see here in h gri where some of the
[36:24] businesses had uh what they call convenience bins or large Blue bins
[36:29] dropped off right of their business that was directly uh for their own uh use and
[36:34] would be built directly from uh Blue Water
[36:39] recycling okay are there any other questions for uh director Wilson at this
[36:47] time seeing none I'll go to you uh our CAO please
[36:57] thank you your worship so U the Mover of that motion is councelor MC Bernie and
[37:02] the second is councelor Wright so if there's no further uh questions for
[37:07] director Wilson I'll call the recorded vote so Deputy Falconer yes councelor MC
[37:13] Bernie yes councelor Palmer yes councelor van hitson yes councelor
[37:19] Whitfield yes councelor right yes and REE heer yes so that motion carries 7 to
[37:27] zero thank you we move on to
[37:31] 7.6.1 CS 20252 North Hine Museum de accession
[37:36] project report number 20 and project status update uh may I have a mover
[37:43] please councelor Ben hiton councelor Whitfield at this time are there any
[37:49] questions for our coordinator uh Janice at this
[37:54] time and over getting on in it and whatnot uh uh uh my question maybe how
[38:01] how is it fairing out now uh now that we're into the coming up to the month of
[38:08] March um we are working very hard uh to get things like
[38:15] the um I want to make it clear about the de accessioning process like when we're
[38:20] saying de accessioning that is just recording of the items now we're coming
[38:24] into the portion of trying to make sure that those it items find a home and it's
[38:30] a lot it's a lot so the the team again I've always praised them they have been
[38:39] phenomenal so I I can't say much more um okay we are just trying to go as fast as
[38:44] we can go but not but not go too fast that we're making mistakes because we do
[38:50] want to respect these items absolutely oh I take that I do I see any other
[38:55] hands okay councelor Ben hiton thank you G effort to Denise um there
[39:00] are items for public auction uh set aside um do you have any
[39:07] idea how the public auction will look is that an online auction yeah do you have
[39:12] pictures already from everything then well so um if the item has been
[39:18] transferred to the hean County Museum there has been a photo go with it so
[39:23] none of the items that are going to auction have been photographed yet
[39:28] but there will be a picture and a description for each item those items
[39:32] then will be loaded on to gov deals and will be dealing with our public auction
[39:37] through our gov deals um program okay thank you any other questions for
[39:44] our coordinator at this time seeing none go ahead CIO
[39:54] please thank you your worship so your Movers councelor van hitome and your
[39:58] secondary is councelor Whitfield so if there's no other questions for um our
[40:03] coordinator then I will call the recorded
[40:07] vote so councelor MC Bernie yes councelor Palmer yes councelor van hiton
[40:14] yes councelor Whitfield yes councelor Wright yes Deputy ree Falconer yes and
[40:21] REE heer yes so that motion carries seven to zero
[40:28] okay thank you as we move on now to 7.6.2
[40:33] fa-2 25-01 library facilities and services agreement with hin County
[40:40] Library board are there any questions uh at this time I'll get a move in a second
[40:46] before we open up to questions councelor Palmer councelor Whitfield okay are
[40:51] there any questions for either counselor CAO lamb or director stce at this time
[41:00] go ahead councelor MCB Bernie yes sir you ree uh in regards to blath liberry
[41:05] where stand
[41:10] there through you re have for I I councelor mcburn I'm sorry could you
[41:15] repeat the question so this this agreements for uh all the libraries we
[41:21] have a BL Library I said what's the outcome of where it's going to end up or
[41:26] not end up so through you Reef heer um that was not
[41:32] part of this was a um facilities and services agreement to account for the
[41:38] annual um usage and uh offerings of libr the library through with at the Alis
[41:46] Monroe Branch as well as the ble branch and included as you could see um in the
[41:51] attachment a number of other um branches throughout the county um it did not talk
[41:57] at all about um perhaps an expansion for ble but it did reference that if that
[42:02] was to happen and when that we would be bringing a report so that wasn't part of
[42:07] the discussion oh but okay thank you but the reference to usage if we don't have
[42:14] one yeah so so I guess just to clarify so this agreement is based on the
[42:20] different types of uh libraries and the dollar figure and what's required for
[42:24] cleanings etc for each of those libraries so as long as North hean
[42:28] continues to provide a comprehensive library at uh the Wingham or Alice
[42:33] Monroe library and a neighborhood Library um in blith that will be the
[42:38] expectations however uh there is notice Provisions there so if say for example
[42:43] if Council wanted to discontinue Library services in bath or wanted to change the
[42:47] level of service to move from a neighborhood library to a comprehensive
[42:50] one this agreement would account for that we would uh we would amend that but
[42:55] basically the structure is the same depending on the of service um being
[42:59] offered in those um different areas throughout here on County uh
[43:03] municipalities great thank you I think that explained it very well there and uh
[43:08] if there's no other questions I I'll turn it over to our CAO please thank you
[43:13] your worship so the mve of this motion is councelor Palmer and the seconder is
[43:17] councelor Whitfield so if there's no other questions I'll call the recorded
[43:20] vote so councelor Palmer yes councelor van hiton yes councelor Whit field yes
[43:29] councelor Wright yes Deputy ree Falconer yes councelor MC Bernie yes and REE heer
[43:37] yes to that motion carries seven to zero okay okay thank you uh we're moving
[43:44] on to uh Reed's activity report uh not a lot going on at right at this time here
[43:51] uh we just completed our second round or coming up to our second round for the
[43:56] Cao uh and we're having a special meeting on
[43:59] on Friday about that uh so I'll pass it on to any council members board and
[44:04] committee reports at all go ahead councelor Ben hiton please
[44:09] thank you re I don't really have a report I just want to remind everybody
[44:13] that tomorrow the M Valley conservation Authority has their annual general
[44:17] meeting everybody's welcome it starts at two at the Rox
[44:22] Hall okay just curious uh with that um there's still uh Road close signs down
[44:30] at the bottom end of town here I just I think just do a phone call before you go
[44:35] that's all I'm saying tomorrow morning at nine o'clock the chair and the the
[44:40] treasure from the mland valley will make the decision if everything goes on or
[44:43] not but thank appreciate that update than yes yes okay at this time any uh
[44:51] verbal or written updates from Members seeing none
[44:58] comments by the members see none okay notice of
[45:05] motion seeing none bylaws bylaw number 14-22 alternative voting method
[45:14] authorization of telephone and internet voting
[45:17] 2026 election may I have a mover Deputy Reef councelor Ben hiton I
[45:26] turn over to you CAO
[45:30] please thank you your warship so councelor van hitson yes councelor
[45:35] Whitfield yes councelor Wright yes Deputy ree Falconer yes councelor MC
[45:42] Bernie yes councilor Palmer yes and REE heer yes so that motion carries seven to
[45:51] zero you number 11 next meetings uh next regular council meeting will be held on
[45:57] Monday March 3rd 2025 at 6m in North uran council chambers the next Wingham
[46:03] Bia their annual meeting is going to be held on Thursday February 20th at 6:30
[46:09] at the nights Lounge at the North H and West cast Community complex and the next
[46:14] blly Bia meeting their again their annual general meeting will be held on
[46:19] Thursday February 27th 2025 at 8 amm in the first floor meeting room at the blin
[46:25] district Community Center are there any other
[46:29] announcements seeing none close session and Reporting out
[46:35] that the Council of the township of North here and hereby proceeds
[46:39] at 6:46 to an in camera
[46:44] meeting session Clos to the public under Section
[46:48] 2392 K of the municipal act to discuss the following a position plan procedure
[46:54] criteria or instruction to be applied to any negotiations carried on or to be
[47:00] carried on by or on behalf of the municipality or local board cross border
[47:06] servicing agreement negotiations and further that the interm CAO and director
[47:13] of legislative service clerk the interm director of Public Works the Public
[47:19] Works administrator assistance remain in attendance along with records management
[47:24] uh Slash legisl service assistant remaining may I have a
[47:32] mover councelor right councelor
[47:37] Palmer go ahead so councelor Whitfield yes councel
[47:44] Wright yes Deputy re Falconer yes Council mcbournie yes councelor Palmer
[47:51] yes councelor van hiton yes and REE heer yes so that motion carries 7 to zero so
[47:59] we'll take a short uh five minute break or so here while um Tyler switches us
[48:05] over to the Clos session
[48:10] meeting okay this time I'll turn it over to our CAO to report out thank you
[48:15] worship so in close session Council discussed one matter uh so that was
[48:20] under two section 239 2K of the municipal act uh specifically related to
[48:25] a position plan procedure criteria or instruction to be applied to
[48:29] negotiations related to the crossborder servicing um so a motion for council's
[48:35] consideration that the Council of the township of North hon hereby direct
[48:39] staff to proceed as directed in Clos session
[48:46] okay mover do I need to move yep y I'm waiting for a hand oh counselor Palmer
[48:53] and councelor Whitfield sorry I'll Now call the recorded vote so
[48:59] councelor van hitson yes councelor Whitfield yes Council Wright yes Deputy
[49:06] ree Falconer yes councelor MC Bernie yes councelor Palmer yes and REE heer yes so
[49:14] that motion carries seven to zero let the Council of the township of
[49:19] North hear and agree no we'll go to the confirmatory bylaw number
[49:24] 15-22 may have a mover councelor Deputy ree councelor
[49:32] Wright your turn Mr CAO thank you your warship so councelor
[49:39] Whitfield yes councelor Wright yes Deputy re Falconer yes councelor MC
[49:45] Bernie yes councelor Palmer yes councelor van hitson yes and REE heer
[49:53] yes that motion carry seven to zero that the Council of the township of
[49:58] North uran agrees that there being no further business before Council the
[50:02] February 18 2025 regular council meeting be hereby adjourned at 802 may have a
[50:10] mover councelor reigh counc Whitfield CA thank you worship right yes Deputy re
[50:19] Falconer yes councelor MC Bernie yes councelor Palmer yes councelor Ben hiton
[50:25] yes councelor Whitfield yes and REE heer yes so that motion carries 7 to zero