[0:01] I call to order the city of North Florida via a regular commission meeting and first public hearing of the budget for Monday, September 14.

[0:14] The year 2026, a mirror boarder, welcome to residents, colleagues here on the commission.

[0:24] The administration department has and everyone joining this evening.

[0:32] Before we delve into other stuff, and I would like to make a brief application, you may

[0:42] be seated. I'll proceed.

[0:48] Mighty God, thank you for the city of No Flotterdale and for

[0:56] every family and resident who calls this community their home.

[1:09] Your word tells us to seek

[1:11] peace and prosperity of the city we place us. So tonight we're asking you for

[1:21] wisdom to make decisions that are fair, responsible,

[1:29] and in the best interest of the people

[1:32] that we serve.

[1:36] We ask you for discernment, compassionate care, and that for the people

[1:43] you place under our trust.

[1:48] We ask that your blessings will be upon our residents, our employees,

[1:52] our first responders, our administration, and this commission, that you will help us to

[2:00] The good stewards of the resources and stresses entrusted to us and to be mindful of the burdens

[2:09] carried by our families, our seniors, our owners, and businesses, we ask you one more

[2:18] time to give us wisdom, unity and understand as we conduct the people's business tonight.

[2:25] For the glory is yours in the Lord's alone and for the benefit of your people, we ask all that in Jesus' name, amen.

[2:34] Vice Mayor, who's so much pleased to lead us in the presence of the teachings.

[2:50] Thank you. May we see it.

[2:55] Good evening, everyone. Again, Madam Clerk, please do the role call for us.

[2:59] Mayor Borginland. Here. Vice Mayor Booster Monte. Yeah. Commissioner Lewis Rickett.

[3:07] Here. Commissioner Lewis. Here. Commissioner Martin. It's not present at the moment.

[3:12] City Manager Sergeant. Yeah. City Attorney Pamis. Yeah. And I'm City Clerk Slattering.

[3:18] There is a quorum. Thank you. We have a quorum. Thank you. Just before we continue if anybody wasn't here. Please

[3:24] would appreciate it if you could turn your mobile device signet.

[3:29] Please, thank you.

[3:33] We will now proceed to item three, A, which is the first reading, on the add-bomb, tax

[3:42] rate for fiscal year 2627.

[3:49] Madam City Attorney, if you could read the ordinance by titled this.

[3:55] An ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Northwaterdale Florida is establishing

[4:00] an adopting the City of Northwaterdale Advalor and Tax operating village levy rate

[4:06] at 7.650 Nils or 7.650 per thousand dollars of taxable assessed property value for

[4:17] the 2026 tax year representing an increase of 9.46 percent over the roadback rate

[4:25] of 6.980 9 mills for all purposes. Providing for

[4:31] some ability providing for conflicts and providing for an effective date.

[4:37] All right, see the imagine. If you please make the

[4:43] require presentation there, we're going to. Thank you very much.

[4:46] Yes, we're going to do a presentation and just before we begin that,

[4:50] just make a quick let all state and here on where we are with the budget process.

[4:54] So since July 28th, Commission meeting, I'm...

[5:00] Our goal has been very simple, reduced, the fiscal impact on the residents while maintaining the services.

[5:06] Our community depends on and protect being the city's long-term financial stability. If you all recall it, at that time, when the commission adopted the 8.4 mills.

[5:17] We said that we were going to work to reduce it, and we reduced it, and we're presenting the budget at first hearing of 7.65 mills.

[5:26] And so, getting from 8.4 mills to 7.6 mills required a great deal of work and effort.

[5:36] Since July we held two town hall meetings where we shared information, answered questions, listened to concerns,

[5:43] and received valuable input from the residents.

[5:45] Some of those inputs were incorporated, and we continue to review those as we work to finalize the budget.

[5:52] At the same time, the budget team, which consisted of the finance director, the budget manager,

[5:58] the deputy city manager and myself, went back through the proposed buzz line by line.

[6:03] We reviewed staffing, operating expenses, capital projects, and other expenditures.

[6:08] We looked at what could be reduced, delayed, adjusted, or extended,

[6:13] while continuing to provide the services our residents have grown accustomed to and rely on.

[6:17] As a result, we identified more than $2.3 million in cuts, reductions, adjustments, and project extensions.

[6:26] That allowed us to recommend today the $7.65 mils utilizing $272,000 in reserves to balance the budget.

[6:35] This is significant progress in our influx several weeks of detailed review and some difficult decisions that had to be made about the budget.

[6:44] But the millage rate is only part of the overall budget.

[6:47] Tonight, the commission will also consider the city's four assessments.

[6:51] Fire, stormwater, solid waste, and water control.

[6:54] These assessments fund specific services provided to our residents and properties.

[7:00] And just as we did with the millage, we have carefully reviewed the costs associated with those services.

[7:06] At the same time, the cost of providing these services continue to rise.

[7:10] Our fire assessment helps support the cost of providing fire rescue services, including personnel emergency equipment, fire apparatus, protective equipment, and the everyday cost of operating our fire stations.

[7:23] Our solid waste assessment reflects the cost of collecting and disposing of the garbage and bulk throughout the city, including our contracts with waste management, as well as the disposal sites, fuel, labor and equipment costs.

[7:36] Our storm water and water control assessments support the drainage and water management systems that protect our neighborhoods and properties from flooding.

[7:45] These include maintaining our canals, our canal banks, our drainage systems, our catch basins, and other infrastructure as well as drainage and flood control improvements.

[7:56] As our infrastructure ages, we experience, and we experience heavier rainfall events, maintaining

[8:04] and approving these systems becomes increasingly important and increasingly costly.

[8:10] These are not simply numbers that appear on a tax bill.

[8:13] They represent services our residents depend on every day, whether fire units responding

[8:18] to an emergency call, garbage being collected, drainage systems being maintained, can out

[8:24] being managed can now banks being restabilized and investments being made to reduce flooding

[8:29] throughout our neighborhoods.

[8:32] This is a balance that we are trying to achieve with this budget.

[8:35] We must consider what it costs to provide these services, what can reasonably be supported

[8:40] through the general fund and reserves, and what our residents can reasonably afford.

[8:46] Reducing the proposed millage rate does not mean our fiscal challenges have disappeared.

[8:50] The cost of public safety, insurance, employee benefits, utilities, and other essential services

[8:56] continue to increase.

[8:58] At the same time, we have major infrastructure responsibilities ahead of us.

[9:03] One of the largest is our water treatment plant.

[9:05] We are facing an investment of more than $100 million to meet new federal water quality requirements

[9:11] while the federal government has provided no dollars to support those projects.

[9:15] We also have major drainage and flood control projects underway or planned, including the

[9:21] new C-14 pump station, Tamar's Channer Boulevard drainage and paving improvements and

[9:27] several age drainage, paving, and beautification improvements.

[9:30] These three projects alone require approximately $16 million in city matching funds to match

[9:37] the over $16 million in grants we received.

[9:40] At the same time, we still have to maintain our roads, parks, buildings, utilities, public safety

[9:46] systems, and all the everyday services are residents expect.

[9:51] So we have to balance what our residents can afford today with making sure this city is

[9:56] financially prepared for the responsibilities we know are coming tomorrow.

[10:00] I recognize that every dollar matters to our residents, as far as the recommendation before the commission, tonight is 7.65m instead of 8.4m.

[10:12] However, there is a fiscal impact to every decision. If an assessment is reduced, that revenue must be addressed somewhere else in the budget.

[10:20] that could mean additional spending reductions, greater use of reserves, delaying projects, or identifying other funding resources or reductions.

[10:32] I also want to thank the residents who participated in our two budget town hall meetings.

[10:36] Whether you agree with everything we presented or not, your participation was important, U.S. questions, race concerns, and offered suggestions, and we listen.

[10:45] There are still different difficult decisions for the mayor and commission to make tonight regarding both the

[10:51] millage rate and the four assessments.

[10:53] We also recognize that proposed changes to Florida's property tax system could be before

[10:59] we'll be before voters in the November election.

[11:02] If approved, those changes could have a significant impact on future municipal property tax revenues.

[11:08] and in North Waterdale, that number is about $7 million in loss revenue as outlined by the

[11:15] Breyer County property appraiser a few weeks ago when he presented in North Waterdale.

[11:19] The city must therefore continue evaluating its long-term financial plan and the potential

[11:24] effects of those changes on future budgets.

[11:28] Ultimately, our responsibility is to maintain the city's fiscal responsibility, protective

[11:32] essential services, properly fund the services our residents depend upon, prepare for major

[11:39] infrastructure needs and at the same time do everything possible to reduce the financial impact

[11:44] on our residents. This is what this budget is about finding the right balance not only this year,

[11:51] but in the future years ahead. That has been our focus throughout this process and will continue

[11:56] to be our focus as we work with the mayor and commission towards adoption of the final fiscal year

[12:02] 27 budget on Monday, September 28.

[12:05] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[12:06] With that, our budget manager, Mr. Stewart,

[12:10] we'll walk you through the presentation.

[12:13] The presentations are available on the table.

[12:16] For anybody who didn't look at it and print it online.

[12:20] This has also been online since my last Thursday.

[12:24] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[12:25] Thank you.

[12:29] You are a recorder.

[12:30] With this, I would also like to ask

[12:32] the department that presenting also give a very short standardized justification, you know,

[12:41] not over the whole thing.

[12:43] Thank you.

[13:03] Good afternoon, everyone.

[13:06] Mayor Vice Mayor, commissioners, city managers, city attorney, the city clerk,

[13:13] our community.

[13:15] That's participate in here today.

[13:16] And also the staff, my name is Sharon Stewart and I am the Budget Manager and I will be going over the presentation here tonight regarding the proposed budget for 2027.

[13:33] So here's what the agenda looks like. The City Manager's opening comments which was already made.

[13:39] the proposed military recommendation.

[13:42] I'll propose assessment rate recommendation,

[13:45] propose citywide budget overview,

[13:48] propose general budget overview,

[13:50] on the general fund budget overview rather,

[13:52] and the proposed citywide capital improvement plan

[13:55] along with some, you know, important dates

[13:58] and any questions and discussions at the end of the presentation.

[14:06] All right, so regarding the city's property taxable value

[14:11] between 26 and 27, we had our taxable value with 2.84 billion dollars, which is an adjustment

[14:22] to our current property tax valuation of 2.8 million dollars plus we had additional new

[14:32] construction value of 1.6. So in all said with that it's 142 million dollars increase

[14:39] or 5.26% over the fiscal year 26 budget.

[14:47] This will represent our historical taxable value.

[14:51] So between 2017 and 2017, you can see the history there.

[15:00] All right, so this chart basically informs you of where we are with our new construction taxable value within the city of North Lauderdale.

[15:10] So we could see that at number one, we are the number one where we have the lowest at one point, almost $1.7 million in new construction value.

[15:19] If you look at the other cities that I do have highlighted there a few, you can see like for example Sunrise has about 16.3 million

[15:29] Mayor Mar, which is number 23, has about 83.7 million.

[15:35] And the last city that's captured here in this illustration, Fort Laudado, which is about 1.8 billion dollars in new construction value.

[15:44] So that's just comparing us to the other cities in Broward regarding our taxable increase in new construction.

[15:53] All right.

[15:53] The property tax valuation.

[15:55] This is comparison to show you our valuation in regards to our military.

[16:00] So we have highlighted there.

[16:03] And number three that shows that we're at the 2.84.

[16:06] Billion and our new proposed millage rate is at 7.65 and a few of the other cities.

[16:14] For example, we can look at the City of Tamarack, which is number 7.

[16:19] They're at 7.246 and their millage rate is at proposed anyway to be at 7 mills.

[16:33] This chart illustrates the historical property millage rate.

[16:37] So between 2018 and 2026, we have not increased our milliderate.

[16:42] It remained the same flat at 7.4.

[16:46] So the last column in green, which the arrow is pointing to it,

[16:52] that's the proposed millider for 2027, which is at 7.65 mills.

[17:03] Okay, the milliderate impact.

[17:05] So this is comparing 26 to 27.

[17:08] So the adopted milliderate for 26

[17:10] is 7.4 mil, that generated $8.18.19 million dollars in an ad for loan revenues, which is

[17:21] property taxes we use some interchangeably here. And for 2027, the proposed millage is 7.65

[17:28] where we will generate, if approved, a little over $20 million dollars, so like almost $21 million

[17:36] is of $0.6 million, which will represent an increase of 1.7 or 8.82% over 20,26.

[17:49] This charge represents just the historical village values.

[17:53] Advalor and Revenue's rather, excuse me, between 2019 and 20,27.

[18:00] So this charge shows you the history of what we've collected, with the admiral and

[18:04] every news between those years.

[18:08] Our private tax dollars.

[18:10] Where does that go?

[18:11] There's always that question.

[18:12] It's like, you know, for every tax dollar, how much of it does the city receive.

[18:17] So, right now, which is the school board is getting about 30 cents.

[18:21] North Lauderdale here is getting 34 cents of your dollar.

[18:25] The county gets 27.

[18:28] North Broward Hospital District gets six cents.

[18:31] and there's an other category that's there that will get the 0.3% or 0.3 cents.

[18:41] Okay, the Millage Change property impact, right, on the single family home.

[18:47] So, according to the Broward County Properties, Property Appraisers Office, the average

[18:52] assessed value of a single family home in North Lauderdale is about 220,853, and I'd like to

[19:01] say that that does not mean the value that you will get on the open market for your property.

[19:06] This is what the property of prices assess that property for taxable value.

[19:14] So if you're claim and homestead, you get $50,000 off that taxable value, bring that down

[19:19] to 1783.

[19:21] So at the 7.4 milliliters rate, which we have now, the tax on that property at the 2.2853

[19:27] would be $1,264.31. But what we're proposing today at the 7.65

[19:36] mills, that property will be $1,307 and $3 in taxes, property taxes only, and that would

[19:46] make an annual difference of $42.71 or monthly of $3.56 or a daily difference of

[19:54] 12 cents on that assess value if the 7.65 is approved.

[20:01] In addition, I have here the property MPAC on a condominium where the property appraisers have that average, assess that about 16965, with a homestead exemption of 50 that taxable value turns out to be 66,965, which at 7.4 mil, that would property condominium unit would pay 495, and 54 cents in property taxes.

[20:31] or at the $7.65% we were looking at $512.28 or an annual difference of 16.74 monthly of $1.40 or 5 cents daily.

[20:50] These are recommended assessment rates.

[20:52] The first column will show you the adopted and goes down to the different categories that we're going to be voting on today.

[21:01] and the proposed and the annual change the monthly change in the daily change so for the

[21:07] fire assessment currently for the single-family home it's 278 the recommended or the

[21:13] proposed for this next fiscal year is 650 Mayer I'd like to say that since we read the

[21:24] ordinance that had to do specifically with the ad valorem we have to stick to that one

[21:30] now. So then folks who go to a hearing on that issue, then we move to the next ordinance and then

[21:38] you can speak to each one separately. Okay, so if you want to go to slide 20. I'm sorry, page

[21:46] 19.

[21:49] Okay. All right. Okay, so based on the village rate that is proposed at 7.65. The

[22:00] rollback rate, which the rollback rate is 6.9889. And what the rollback rate is, it's the rate

[22:08] of millage that will get you generate the same amount of taxes for this current fiscal year,

[22:13] which is at 6.989. So we'll generate the same amount of taxes as we currently have budget

[22:19] for the 2026 budget, which will be an increase of 0.6611, or a 9.4% increase over

[22:29] the rollback rate. So what we are proposing is a 7.65, the rollback is 6.9889 and the percentage

[22:39] increase is 9.46.

[22:46] Okay, this one.

[22:51] Okay.

[22:54] All right.

[22:55] I'll slide with the slides now.

[23:02] No, we're not going to do the assessments.

[23:07] Alright, so this is the citywide proposed budget summary. It lists the funds that we budgeted for in the fiscal year. So the first column is the FY26 adopted the second is the FY27 proposed and then the changes in terms of dollar values as well as the percent changes. So the total budget adopted in

[23:31] is 1557 million 084 004 this for the next current for the next fiscal year rather we are

[23:40] proposed in a budget of 161 million 915 534 again I'm sorry to interrupt

[23:47] to talk to the general for we have a reading the reading is clearly that we are

[23:54] focused on the general for the ad volum only the ad volum tax rate right

[24:00] and the analysis of the rollback rate and the increase and the budget relating to that

[24:07] alone. In the next meeting when we're doing the budget ordinance, then we can go

[24:13] into the budget summary and the remaining details. I just want to say that

[24:17] because we need to have an opportunity for the public to address the commission

[24:22] on the one issue of the Advalorum tax now.

[24:28] All right.

[24:30] So, all right.

[24:31] So, the general fund budget which is what is driving is driven by the Advalorum revenues.

[24:39] So, the general fund budget itself is adopted for 2026-564-milain-868-691.

[24:45] For 2027, we are proposing 48 million 560709, which is a decrease of 6,000, and 307,982, or 11.5%.

[25:00] And then that you'll be able to see what we have proposed for the different departments that are reflected there, which you can see, the city commission, the city manager, human resources, finance, city attorney, city clerk, the police department, community development, code enforcement, public works, parking recreation and non-departmental.

[25:22] So those are the funds, or I'm sorry, the different departments that are funded through

[25:28] you know, Advalor and Revenue and then again, the proposed budget on that, but this will

[25:34] be the 7.65 millage, is that 48, 560, 709.

[25:42] In addition, I can show you where the breakdown is of the millage rate, which will show you

[25:50] The first line will show you where the taxes are and the proposed budget for the 2027 fiscal year.

[26:05] The general fund itself is a broken down of different objects that we budget for, which is personal services,

[26:12] operating expenses, capital expenses, grants and AIDS, and transfers out as well as contingency.

[26:22] So that will show you between the 26 adopted to 27, what the changes are in personal services.

[26:29] So for example, personal services has a budgetary change of 775, 711, the operating expense did decrease at 2.5.

[26:42] 5, 4, 9, 5, 4, 7. Our capital increase also had a huge decrease as well.

[26:50] You know, one, almost two million dollars, grants and eights, 9, 46. And the transfers

[26:56] and out did decrease somewhat by 1.6. The contingency itself remained flat at 850.

[27:05] So that is the make up of the budget by the object.

[27:10] All right,

[27:21] so this is just a little summary of how the budget is broken down again by what we have budget in an expense on the top line.

[27:40] Right.

[28:11] Just for the second.

[28:12] But I'm quite forward.

[28:13] The record could you announce what Tom Commissioner Kim and please.

[28:17] Commissioner Martin arrived at 529 p.m.

[28:20] Thank you.

[28:23] All right, this chart represents a fun balance usage in the general fund itself.

[28:28] The top is the budgeted expenses, you know, between 29, 19 and 20, 27 is to pick

[28:35] this air was as the advalorant revenues, the non-advalorant revenues and the fund balances.

[28:41] So if we just pivot to the last column 20, 27, again, the budgeted expenses is 48, 5, 6, 7, 0, 9,

[28:49] our advalorant revenues that would be generated from the 7.65% is at 20, 6, 44, 83 would

[28:57] need nonanvalor and breven used to make up that gap in the amount of 27,641,31. And when

[29:05] that's all said and done, if this budget is adopted as it is with the expenses that

[29:10] that we have proposed and the 7.65 military, we will only need to use $272.995 record to

[29:20] in 72,000 rather than in our fund balance,

[29:25] which our fund balance is our savings account.

[29:28] Primarily we could look at that, essentially,

[29:31] and tag that usage that way.

[29:48] This is just like another recap,

[29:50] visual recap of the 7.65 mill is what it means

[29:54] between the revenues expense and the additional revenues.

[29:58] And the iPhone or its self represent about

[30:00] 442% of the general fund budget.

[30:07] These are the general fund budgetary pressures, so these are actually

[30:12] embedded in the budget that we have proposed already. So right now we're looking at the police contract

[30:18] increase of 1.5 mil. The transfer to the fire fund of 1.2 million dollars. I'm sorry that police contract

[30:26] is represented twice, so disregard the second amount.

[30:31] And the Somerset Replacement, Rufel Placement,

[30:34] is that one mill, we're also proposing 500,000

[30:37] for the City Hall ADA restroom, 375,000 dollars

[30:43] for Southwest 81st Street Landscape,

[30:45] median inspection in engineering,

[30:48] and also for the home rehab and hometown hero program.

[30:52] That's the cost of $400,000.

[31:00] As the city manager mentioned that we did,

[31:05] you know, visit the budget again,

[31:07] and what we tried to attempt to do is to get to the 7.65 millage rate.

[31:14] So we did look at different aspects of how to balance the budget at 7.65.

[31:20] So there was some revenue adjustments here where we did get our final revenue amount.

[31:25] from the state and regards to those numbers that we have projected on and then we receive

[31:31] the final numbers. So, for example, the Adverloorum, that's the adjustment that the first

[31:37] line is the adjustment from the 8.4 millage to the 7.65. So, it's a reduction of a little

[31:44] over two million dollars by adjusting the revenue from the millage rate rather from the 8.4 to 7.65

[31:53] percent. The state did, you know, up the, um, communication service tax that we will be

[31:59] get and so instead of the original 710, we're getting 734, 968, which is about $25,000

[32:08] difference, um, in the state revenue share and, um, did go up a little bit by 51187, um, the

[32:16] half cent taxes that did go down from the earlier projection. So we did lose about 115,000

[32:23] dollars there, just a small adjustment to wrench and

[32:26] world fees, which is 27, and that we're proposing a search

[32:31] charge for the user fee for the credit card of about

[32:34] $70,000. That's all for the general fund.

[32:42] So these are the

[32:43] budget adjustments that were made between the departments in order

[32:48] to be able to get to that $7.65 mill, millage rate with the

[32:54] $272,000 that we are utilizing in our reserves, our fund balance.

[33:00] So I would love to defer this to the City Manager to speak on this.

[33:04] Senator, thank you, Chair, good evening, Mr. Mayor of Commissioners.

[33:09] And so in order to get the cuts necessary to get us to the 7.65, we looked at all of the budgets

[33:17] and we went line item by line item and these are recommendations.

[33:23] The only thing that we looked at under the Commission area was a potential reduction of

[33:30] over time.

[33:31] There are a couple of employees that are over time eligible.

[33:34] We've corrected that issue where they no longer get over time and so we are reducing 20,000

[33:41] of that 24 that was originally budgeted and then we are making a recommendation to reduce

[33:47] the discretionary funds as well. In the city manager's office consulting services, we are

[33:53] looking to reduce by $125,000. Miscellaneous by $1500, marketing by $10,000. Community

[34:01] recognition by $7,500 and travel and training by $2,500. In the city attorney's office,

[34:08] we looked at the actuals from human resources, legal general manners and finance,

[34:14] So we are recommending to reduce those human resources by 25,000

[34:19] General matters by 10 and finance by 10.

[34:23] Additionally, in human resources, we looked at consulting services

[34:29] for special H&R projects, reducing those by $10,000.

[34:34] Reducing employee events by $10,000.

[34:38] And we have not gotten to spend, we did not spend the full amount

[34:41] for the employees this year and so that reduction is won't impact the employees and then

[34:47] travel and training and human resources by $3,000.

[34:50] In finance, we're looking at reducing their travel and training in seminars by $7,200.

[34:57] That is a large number for travel and...

[35:00] Training, but they do need to make sure that a variety of the staff, the department head, and the accountants

[35:06] all have their, get their necessary seat, use the continued certifications. In public works, we're

[35:13] looking to reduce $25,000 for new decorative straightlights, decorative straightlights that will

[35:19] be installing in parks and recreation. We are reducing travel and training in two of their divisions,

[35:30] We're looking to reduce some of the part-time staff hours, no staff, but staffing hours in the seven to fun, and then with those reductions, there's also some reductions with the fake attacks as we'll play, hey, we're looking at reducing some money from some special events, but not canceling all those special events.

[35:55] We're looking at reducing the amount of dollars used for seasonal employees.

[36:01] Those are fee-based program staff.

[36:04] And then the other one is the obviously replacement of like a

[36:08] dollars from the seasonal staff.

[36:10] We're also looking, it's not on this list, but we're also looking at

[36:15] reducing the special event contract that we have and re-conforming that.

[36:21] In the community development department, the home rehab program,

[36:23] we're looking to reduce it by $100,000, and then in non-departmental, some of these will be

[36:30] funded out of the contingency, but we did reduce some money, so we did reduce out of the

[36:37] general fund budget, you know, the $200,000 for J.C. Park, the back of public works. The summer

[36:43] set roof, we actually got quotes from the roof and the cost is about $900,000, so we reduced

[36:48] that by $200,000, we're reducing $450,000 off the boulevard of champions, repaying project.

[36:57] Rark Island Road, we need $700,000 to pave the portion of the road from McNab Road to

[37:07] Bally Road. So we're reducing all of that by $700,000, because the county is going to reimburse us

[37:15] So, the Council of the County will be reimbursing that to us, we're waiting for the agreement that does that.

[37:21] Insurance we've reduced by $200,000, and then the contingency we're reducing by $200,000.

[37:28] And then we're going to look to start doing third class or bulk mail for all of our advertising.

[37:35] And only use first class mail for checks that are amount out, code violations, or correspondence.

[37:42] And the rest will all be third-class mouse.

[37:46] So we're looking at a reduction of that.

[37:49] And then we'll address the other ones

[37:51] when we get to it.

[37:53] But that brings us right around to about $2.1 million.

[37:57] And so that is how we were able to reduce the millage from 8.4 to 7.65.

[38:04] I want to be very clear that we have not,

[38:07] and you saw the slide that Sharon put up when

[38:11] talk about, you know, where the budget is by personnel and so on. We have not cut anything

[38:18] associated with our personnel. We have not cut personnel. We do have a soft hiring freeze in place

[38:25] right now. But we do have a, we, we haven't cut, you know, the pay raise that the employees get

[38:34] unlike other cities, most of our employees don't get union pay raises, plus coal, plus

[38:40] merit in North Auto, everybody only gets, you know, one pay raise, and so we've left

[38:46] that the same. We left the FSA money the same. And so that's really the reflects the

[38:54] difference in personnel. Everything else we have reduced all of the other budget operating

[39:01] all the other departments have seen a reduction in their budgets overall.

[39:08] And so with that Mr. Mayor, that concludes the General Fund presentation.

[39:12] If you'd like to hear from the General Fund Department quickly, we can.

[39:17] And we can have them come up state kind of their mode of operation.

[39:23] And you want to know like there, maybe you want to know the accomplishments they had.

[39:27] Some major accomplishments this past year.

[39:31] Not, it was not so much, it's just the, like to make sure we have a justification for any

[39:39] department where there was an increase in dollars of a percentage, and it went specifically

[39:46] cause the change in the, whether it's in your position programs or contract equipment, whatever

[39:55] we have,

[39:58] and then what happened.

[40:00] To residents services, if the request was reduced, I would like to get those things.

[40:05] Through the chairman. Yes, you recognize.

[40:09] Thank you.

[40:14] We're not, sorry, we're not there. We're question yet.

[40:17] We just, it's a part of the presentation. We're not there to the question yet.

[40:22] We're just going to, we'll be very, very question later on unless you have something on it.

[40:26] Well, that's not asking.

[40:27] Yeah, not, we're not, we're not there to question yet.

[40:31] We're not there with question.

[40:32] We're just going to make sure we like to present there.

[40:35] Okay, so the chair.

[40:37] Okay.

[40:37] May I add in regards to the general fund expenditures?

[40:42] There are a number of items that are not actually included in this budget for the general

[40:47] fund.

[40:48] So, not all of this is, but I'll go through the ones that are related to the general fund,

[40:53] which is the City Hall Security and Champlain's renovations.

[40:57] That's a million dollars.

[40:58] the home hardening program, a million dollars, the lapidated home repurchase program, half

[41:06] a mill, downtown development, real related costs, that's a half a mill.

[41:11] First time home buyers program, 300,000 on demand transportation, that's 300,000.

[41:19] then the ETMA goal initiative is that 250, let's see, lobbying services, that's $150,000,

[41:33] food and wine festival for 100.

[41:38] The feasibility study for the special district that's

[41:41] not included as 100,000. Quarterly events, 100,000, the Youth Council pilot program is 100,000

[41:49] and increase in the commissioners' professional service

[41:54] on 100,000, that's not increased.

[41:56] That's not included, rather,

[41:58] kids with autism program for 50,

[42:01] get healthy, North Lauderdale initiative,

[42:03] that's 50,000, the teen center of grades at 50,

[42:09] and that will, and the general fund expenditures

[42:14] that is not included in the proposed budget

[42:17] that was just presented.

[42:21] So with that we can resume, we can bring the general fund

[42:25] departments up, we'll start, we'll just go in order

[42:28] in the hallway, so we'll start with community development,

[42:39] She has some decreases, so she can explain them.

[42:42] So Tanya, if you wanna walk through just community development,

[42:46] what community development department does,

[42:49] any reductions to services that are outlined in the budget.

[43:02] We're not necessarily reductions, but impacts to services.

[43:19] It's still good afternoon, Mayor Vice Mayor Commissioners.

[43:22] City Manager, City Attorney City Clerk, and or Northwaterdale Community.

[43:28] Community development had a 20% decrease.

[43:33] And as you stated, you want to make sure that our decrease is not affecting the level of service that we provide to our community.

[43:43] But rather, we are maintaining, but mindful of our fiscal spending.

[43:50] To that, Mayor and Commission, we just want to point out

[43:53] or biggest items on our budget as our operation of our building department.

[44:00] So, our building services is provided by Barack County.

[44:04] And last year, we had a budget of about 950,000.

[44:09] Keep in mind that whenever they have an increase, it's built in system where we pay an increase annually.

[44:19] But we looked at our trajectory of permits that we're processing the volume we're processing and also the changes in the state regulation.

[44:30] So we are planning on having a town hall on House Bill 803.

[44:35] I hope our residents that are here today will come and listen to that.

[44:39] That is greatly affected on how we do business.

[44:43] Meaning, we're going to see a lot more.

[44:45] We have to make room for private providers.

[44:48] That means they are able to pull the permits,

[44:52] review the permits, and inspect the permits.

[44:56] That takes away that work, that or...

[45:00] Building department would do internally through the consultant which is for our county. So we looked at that and start to reduce the cost. We don't know what that impact will be through the year, but we know it should be an impact because we have seen that services requested currently in our current budget year.

[45:19] And that also we're trying to be mindful of our projects, streamline in them, make sure that we get projects out quicker.

[45:25] So there's less review time, if there's less review time, less inspection time, that should reduce the cost of that big service.

[45:34] The other project that we have, we have gone from 400,000 to 200,000 is in our general planning.

[45:44] What that means is that the Marin Commission approved the update of the Land Development Code.

[45:49] We were able to start it in this fiscal year.

[45:54] So based on the core of that work, which is the upfront

[45:57] legwork of collecting data, packaging, we have already

[46:02] absorbed some of that cost.

[46:04] So the 200,000 is to push it into the tail end of that project

[46:09] into the 2027 year.

[46:12] We also went down in our miscellaneous consulting services.

[46:17] This is not an indication to give us more work, but we have been pretty good at absorbing

[46:25] some of that cost.

[46:27] And knocking wood, we also have not had an image of disaster, which would trigger the use

[46:32] of that amount, which is for emergency building services.

[46:38] So we have built contingency to support the building department.

[46:42] Again, the state's natural requires that if we have a hurricane or an emergency, we need to be up and running within a few days, so everything can operate on time.

[46:56] That money is there, and fortunately we have not had the need to use it.

[47:03] Lastly, we have somewhat increased or economic development fund, but it's not by much.

[47:10] In that account, we handle or chamber, or visit or taste of North Lauderdale, and all other

[47:19] projects related to funding or businesses, whether it is currently, we have a grant program

[47:25] where we are helping businesses to get a new sign if they'd like, or put a new equipment as long

[47:31] it is going to help the city of North Lauderdale to improve the business condition.

[47:38] So that budget was increased. Other than that, mayor and commission are code enforcement

[47:43] budget, which is mayor of us, the highest cost there is or lease in our vehicles and right

[47:52] below that is our special magistrate. I haven't put it out yet, but we do have some benefit

[47:59] of our special magistrate that we are working on a contract, who has been generous enough.

[48:04] I don't know if I can put that out yet, so I will wait, but it will see a significant

[48:09] reduction for us. Again, some work will be handled by staff internally.

[48:16] In totality, Mayor and Commission, we took the lead from or administration or city manager

[48:22] said, the budget initially, we have always operated on a sleek budget in our department and we

[48:30] do a lot with very little and we will continue to do that for community and hopefully get

[48:37] better at our service. That's it for my presentation. I can answer in a question and see

[48:43] me have. Okay, city manager let me ask you how many of the departments we have that would

[48:51] So what we present basically want to know just if there's an increase or decrease.

[48:57] So I actually made the financing numerous sources are very small departments, so their changes

[49:06] are a very minor.

[49:08] Public Works is a combination of general fund but also an assessment department and then

[49:20] You want to just address your general fund expenses, so not anything that comes out of any

[49:26] of the assessments,

[49:37] and either major increases or decreases, and any reductions in cities

[49:41] or.

[49:41] And let me guide the conversation also, presentation.

[49:45] We're media interests also give there's any new position, programs, or contract, equivalent

[49:51] or capital expenditures that would be included to justify, that's all we want to make

[49:57] sure.

[49:58] Okay, if you could happen with us, that's it.

[50:02] Could you say the party again? No, just if there is, because if, when, when, when, when, increase, or decrease, we want to make sure that there's a reason why that's all for the public.

[50:12] Capital new positions, equipment,

[50:20] if there is. If there's any, if there's.

[50:24] So, good afternoon everyone. So, right now, there are, we have several capital projects going on.

[50:30] And we have a couple of bids out for grass cutting or landscaping.

[50:36] We also have the Kimberly West project on this schedule to start shortly.

[50:42] Those are already budgeted for fiscal year 26.

[50:45] So it's not going to affect 2022 and the 7-pointed.

[50:49] We did put in for a administrative A coordinator,

[50:55] Administrative Coordinator for Public Works and Utilities,

[50:59] and the budget is 70,000 for that position.

[51:01] So we have a really requested, you know, any significant positions.

[51:07] As far as equipment for the general, there is no building equipment we're looking to purchase now for the streets,

[51:13] and that's an enterprise fund is a back home.

[51:19] We just recently purchased a vacuum truck for which was in last fiscal year.

[51:27] There have not been any increase of bits.

[51:29] I'm cuts to our proposed budget for next year, but there's not going to be any,

[51:33] decrease in services from our end.

[51:39] Okay.

[51:42] I think that should be all right for that.

[51:45] Because we're looking at page 22.

[51:48] There's a lot of reduction in decrease in the proposed

[51:54] for 20 still in seven.

[52:05] So, sir, it was just what I wanted to mention.

[52:07] So, the $4.6 million reduction, what we're doing

[52:11] is we're spreading out, so we're delaying

[52:13] of our projects. It's a 28-29. So we could, you know, get everything back in place as far as

[52:19] budgeting and keep in the city's budget on track.

[52:27] Okay. For, for example, they had a, um, they have

[52:31] 900,000 dollars budgeted for some new piping and some new valves in a conversation with public

[52:37] works. It was determined that they're not going to be able to do all that in one fiscal year anyway.

[52:41] So they've got $500,000 this year, and then they'll get the other $400,000 next year.

[52:48] There was some money set aside, as you know, the commission approved this year, some engineering work for new fire hydrants,

[52:57] or some upsides piping for fire hydrant.

[52:59] That is still in the engineering process.

[53:02] So the chances of it's starting and being completed next year to actual work.

[53:06] So that project is budgeted now not in this year in this coming years capital budget, but the following year.

[53:13] So no project was said we're not going to do it.

[53:16] Some were spread out a little bit mainly because the project's start date is probably after,

[53:24] you know, the current fiscal year, the new fiscal year, you know, is ending.

[53:29] And so we're just moving them down the road a little bit to make the impact a little bit less on the residents.

[53:37] Okay,

[53:42] that's all for public work, correct?

[53:44] We do not want to do it.

[53:47] All right.

[53:47] I see to imagine, next, with other department, we will have.

[53:54] The last department will be Parks and Recreation, the other

[53:58] Operational.

[53:59] And Mr. Mayor, the residents have asked that are here if they could

[54:03] see those things on the screen.

[54:05] This was not part of the original presentation, so we don't have

[54:08] them on the screen.

[54:09] All we can show you is what we're showing you.

[54:12] that, you know, on the far right-hand side of that column, it's either, you know, an increase

[54:19] in departments or a decrease in departments.

[54:23] And so, where we're just addressing the decrease right now in the general fund departments,

[54:28] and then fire will discuss theirs and public works will discuss their assessments later

[54:33] on.

[54:34] So, Parks and Recreation will be the last one to present under this one, and it's the same

[54:40] questions, capital projects, new positions, and equipment that has been requested, and that

[54:48] was removed or moved down the road to the budget.

[54:57] Yes, good evening, Patrick, can parks and recreation director.

[55:00] And just giving a quick overview as mentioned, I know the city manager mentioned, in the presentation, what the reductions were, and I can certainly go over some of those again.

[55:10] And just sharing what we do, providing quality of life and proof services for pretty much all-mayage groups.

[55:18] From our youth children, teens to our adults, our seniors, all the way through providing key services.

[55:25] Our core services, as you all know, are children.

[55:29] We're in summer camp.

[55:30] We serve 520 children throughout the summer on a daily basis.

[55:34] And then throughout the school year, we serve 140 children

[55:37] in after school hours, usually come 2 p.m.

[55:39] to 6 p.m.

[55:41] We provide a merit of opportunities, a broad range of things

[55:45] throughout the year for everyone, family,

[55:49] oriented, including we have youth and adult athletics,

[55:52] They go on basketball, as the city manager mentioned, we use the summer set gymnasium.

[55:59] So that gymnasium condition is successful and helpful for our youth programs for our basketball.

[56:05] We also partner with North Island Panthers for a taco football cheerleading program.

[56:11] And we run a soccer program two different seasons, spring and a fall, and those seasons continue to be successful.

[56:19] and, you know, with the help of our artificial synthetic turf that's been really helpful in our maintenance,

[56:27] and leading into one of the things we did reduce is some maintenance cost by about $40,000.

[56:34] And I think he ought to...

[56:34] Sir, sir, Frank, you have any documentation, nothing at all?

[56:38] Documentation.

[56:39] Any backup?

[56:40] Back up forever.

[56:41] I mean, well, what you're presenting, I don't see it.

[56:44] We don't see anything here.

[56:47] Mr. Mayor, this was not part of the original presentation that we had planned and made public and so this came as a result of the questions that you had asked in your email over the weekend and so the departments are just kind of walking through this.

[57:04] I don't understand, but the commission did ask a couple of weeks that the department will show where

[57:14] would show their expenses, everything for the budget for 26 and 27.

[57:22] And so it doesn't increase.

[57:24] You could justify what's the increase or decrease.

[57:28] So that's what we have enough time to do that.

[57:30] So, Smith, Mr. Mayor of this slide basically shows that there is a decrease in just about every department in the city.

[57:38] The city manager's office has a decrease of 6%.

[57:42] Human resources are a decrease of 1.09%.

[57:46] The Community Development Department are decreased by 20.44%.

[57:51] Code enforcement, 8.13%, public arts 49.39%.

[57:56] again a lot of theirs are assessments as well and then Parks and Recreation is a decrease

[58:01] of 3.10%.

[58:03] And so the only departments that saw an increase were the sheriff's office department that was

[58:07] something that we had originally discussed when we walked through their contract and then

[58:14] the city clerk has a 16% increase but it's $72,000 and the clerk can let you know what that

[58:22] out with, but for the most part, all the other departments have a reduction in the amount

[58:27] of money that they used last year to compare to what is proposed right now this year.

[58:33] So, every other department is seeing a reduction.

[58:35] I'm not going to give it too long, but the homework was that each department would say exactly

[58:41] this is what we're asking, what we're increasing, whether it's equipment, whether it's a contract,

[58:47] whatever it is, so it can justify it, but it was not shown here.

[58:52] I mean, we had too much it. That was the executive purpose for it. So resident would know exactly where the money is going to go, whether we need this, for example, we just went to a page 20.

[59:04] What was the page was that? If you could see the page 3031, I believe.

[59:12] where it shows exactly the sum of set of roof is needed in whatever department and you would

[59:22] see the the police department came up twice. We have the was it 23 or 22 or that.

[59:33] So those are examples. I mean we can see we can see the percentage, but we don't see

[59:39] what it is, why?

[59:43] What causes to go up or down?

[59:48] Those are just for transparency.

[59:59] I thought, I guess.

[1:00:00] That's they're looking for a list of a more detailed list of the cuts other than what we provided.

[1:00:07] Excuse me, just like we had in a general fund, 31, but it's department would say, okay, well, we had a maybe seven million last year.

[1:00:17] This year we're going to ask eight million, but what causes that? So we didn't have that one. Those are the details that needed to be done prior to this meeting here, but it's not done.

[1:00:27] All right, so for the essence of time we're not going to have it here, that's fine.

[1:00:33] You can move on with the one question I would ask for all the other departments would be,

[1:00:38] if the commission adopts something smaller than 70.6 and 76.5.

[1:00:46] What can the department or any department reduce, differ or fund elsewhere, or accomplish more efficiently?

[1:00:54] So that's what we're that's the purpose of asking each department. What do you want to show we have a higher increase or lesser increase?

[1:01:02] What is it there since we don't have that that's a part of the question that we'd like to have so before passing to the public.

[1:01:08] Yes, or so we will whatever millage rate the commission approves tonight there will be a second vote on the September 28 commission meeting and so if the commission said 7.4 mills

[1:01:21] then we will come back and we will show you what we can cut out of that.

[1:01:26] Again, the goal is to use as little reserves as possible.

[1:01:30] So we are prepared to do whatever the final number of the commission has

[1:01:35] to make that work as best we can.

[1:01:39] We've got, I got the only thing, like I said,

[1:01:41] when we want to make sure that the public is educated on knowing

[1:01:47] For every tax dollar the dollar the spent what is it going on where is it spent on and they can say have the full view of

[1:01:53] Exactly what is general number is good, but they want to go into the deal. They can decide whether one is we don't want that one, but that's all. All right

[1:02:02] This is if you have another department

[1:02:07] If not Susan you want to just explain your because the clerk's office has an increase

[1:02:12] The increase for the clerk's office is due to election costs.

[1:02:16] We have five more of a random questions, a special election this year.

[1:02:22] And each question is on a separate ballot.

[1:02:25] Each question is separate as well as the other ballot that is for the mayor at large.

[1:02:34] So the supervisor of election has raised their fees and that that's proposed is to what they're going to charge us.

[1:02:45] Okay.

[1:02:48] All right.

[1:02:49] Back to the city manager.

[1:02:51] Commissioner that concludes the presentations for now. The other departments will present.

[1:02:56] When we do the assessments.

[1:02:59] Do we do the assessment now?

[1:03:02] Or because we have to finish the matters first.

[1:03:04] We have to finish the millage first.

[1:03:06] way, so this would be part of still the managed correct?

[1:03:09] Yes, sir.

[1:03:10] Okay.

[1:03:10] Go ahead.

[1:03:37] Okay.

[1:03:38] We're ready?

[1:03:43] Only on the knowledge for now.

[1:03:47] So, Mr. Mayor of that, we'll conclude the presentation for now on just the

[1:03:51] message.

[1:03:51] We have more of a presentation, but we'll do it for each one of the assessments.

[1:03:55] Yeah, that's going to be part of later on.

[1:03:57] Yes, sir.

[1:03:58] Okay.

[1:03:58] That's what my question was.

[1:04:00] All right.

[1:04:00] All right, this I know commission's ready to focus question, but first we need to let the public I'm going to get into the public for question

[1:04:11] Commence then then we move on with the commission

[1:04:18] Madam clerk, do you have any one any speaker at this point or not?

[1:04:22] If not, this is open to anyone

[1:04:28] The speakers don't sign up, the budget hearings, what has happened historically is you ask who wants to speak and then they come up one by one in the chest three minutes.

[1:04:40] Could you not sign up?

[1:04:41] I had a hearing.

[1:04:44] Historically, if the budget hearings, we do not use public comments for people to sign up to speak.

[1:04:50] We're okay. I'm just to that.

[1:04:54] I appreciate that. No problem.

[1:04:57] Have been said that for this item there.

[1:05:00] Here, the public discussion is open for anyone, please. Anyone feel free to come to the podium, ask question.

[1:05:14] I had a change. My speech three times after.

[1:05:16] I'm going to state your name and my name is Linda Ashby.

[1:05:20] I'm a resident of North Lauderdale for approximately 15 years.

[1:05:26] I came here in 2010 and boy things have changed. Good evening, Mayor, commissioners.

[1:05:32] My city-controlled property taxes and assessments are proposed to increase from approximately

[1:05:38] 1,000 to 1698.

[1:05:42] That's a 594 increase from an or approximately 54%.

[1:05:47] My non-advalorment assessment alone are increasing from 956 to 1545.

[1:05:55] That's 62%.

[1:05:58] The city manager described, reducing the proposed millage rates from 8.4 to 7.65 mills as a significant reduction, that description is misleading.

[1:06:11] The 8.4 mill rate was only the maximum ceiling approved in July.

[1:06:16] It was never the rate residents were paying.

[1:06:20] The honest comparison is with the current 7.7.4 millerate and the 6.9889 rollback rate.

[1:06:29] At 7.65 mills the city is still increasing our tax rate.

[1:06:33] It's approximately 9.46% above the rollback rate, reducing and inflated maximum while still

[1:06:42] increasing residence taxes is not tax relief.

[1:06:46] Residents should not be forced to absorb the consequences of approximately 11 million

[1:06:51] budget gap and years of questionable financial decisions.

[1:06:56] Yet last year, four members of the Commission voted to give commissioners the approximately

[1:07:01] a 200% pay increase, tripling their salaries from 19,000 to 57,000.

[1:07:09] Commissioners are also receiving an 808,400 vehicle allowance while the mayor's salary

[1:07:15] has increased to $68,000.

[1:07:19] By the way, market city mayor is only making 30, 30K, and they have a March larger citizens.

[1:07:28] I'm a senior citizen living on a fixed income.

[1:07:31] I must pay for my home, utilities, insurance, transportation, food, medical needs.

[1:07:36] When my expenses exceed my income, I cannot demand more money from someone else.

[1:07:42] I must reduce my spending.

[1:07:44] The city must do the same.

[1:07:46] Go through this budget line by line cut on necessary travel, excessive compensation,

[1:07:51] waste, and non-essential spending before demanding another dollar from residents.

[1:07:55] I am asking you to reject the 7.65 millerate.

[1:07:59] Move toward the rollback rate and adopt a budget residence can actually afford.

[1:08:04] Thank you for your attention in this matter.

[1:08:14] Experts and please.

[1:08:18] Thank you.

[1:08:18] Good evening commission.

[1:08:21] So what I found interesting is, well, let me hold on a second.

[1:08:24] If we go touching everything, that means the next, next, I am because assessment, I want

[1:08:30] people to allow you to do because if we're addressed, just merely that would be okay.

[1:08:34] But if we're addressed, all the other subjects there, that's something else.

[1:08:38] But go ahead.

[1:08:38] Well, you can tell me, but I basically pulled out one particular kind of thing.

[1:08:41] No, I'm just talking for everyone.

[1:08:42] Oh, I'm sorry.

[1:08:43] I'm sorry for everyone.

[1:08:44] Sure, I think I'm good, because I pulled out a particular category that involves with

[1:08:48] the village.

[1:08:49] And so could you please take your name?

[1:08:50] Oh, I'm sorry, Susan.

[1:08:52] Yes.

[1:08:52] Dibziati, 11 or two Southwest, 82nd Avenue, resident of the beautiful city of North

[1:08:57] Waterdale.

[1:08:57] So what I did this afternoon was just out of curiosity.

[1:09:01] I pulled a, and this is all from the budgets, from 2023 to currently where we are right

[1:09:07] now with the proposal.

[1:09:08] And you can correct me.

[1:09:09] I'll leave the information to make sure that it's accurate.

[1:09:11] And it was just basically a comparison of the 2023 budget where we are now with the 2027 budget.

[1:09:19] And I'll just highlight it by the cost, right?

[1:09:21] So in personal services, the total, 228,740.

[1:09:29] Right now, unless, again, I can be corrected, but I'm pretty close, 664,461.

[1:09:37] When it comes to operating and expenditures in the past,

[1:09:40] You had a total of $385,000 and $10.

[1:09:45] We're currently going to run now with $591,592.

[1:09:51] And then in the past in regards to grants,

[1:09:53] aids and expenditures, we had a past total of $82,985.

[1:10:00] We are currently now at $185,387. The total difference, right? The total difference from past to now, $696,735. We are currently $1,441,441,441,444. I think we can do better, right?

[1:10:25] If you look at what was the staff now versus the staff in that department, then there's the difference.

[1:10:34] I know the camera can't see it, but the crowd can't.

[1:10:36] This is the past, this is where we're at now.

[1:10:39] So there's obviously a growth in that.

[1:10:41] There's also what I wanted to point out, if I know if I'm on the clock or not,

[1:10:46] but in regards to the discretionary funds and the give, I'll call it just the give away money,

[1:10:52] that money was put together by waste management, right?

[1:10:55] So that was something that was put into a program that allowed you as city officials to kind of

[1:11:01] get back to the community with your projects and we're currently now away from that and we're

[1:11:06] using residents tax dollars okay and the money is is absorbent I think that there's a lot of

[1:11:13] people that want to speak I don't want to take a lot of time my general point to you is you can do

[1:11:18] better right because when you look at what was done last year which was inflated right and then

[1:11:24] go back now and you try to deflate that number. That's not really fair because you have

[1:11:29] to count the four years of the administration, right? You guys, you talk about being

[1:11:36] viscally responsible, transparent, held to accountability, I say force your staff and

[1:11:42] the city staff has done a great job. Go back, you can do better.

[1:11:54] And I'm going to add administration feel free if you have any factual questions as appropriate,

[1:12:00] feel free, because it's just not to go ahead.

[1:12:07] Bill, I've only been arrested in a full report about six years.

[1:12:10] But I'm just looking at the data you guys gave us, and I'm seeing, you know, money has

[1:12:15] been increasing.

[1:12:16] I know cost of increase, too.

[1:12:17] We've all seen it.

[1:12:18] But we're seeing your income income increase at 7.4.

[1:12:23] We're seeing the spending going on, though, but you've been over spending for years.

[1:12:28] And now you're looking now and going, oh, well, to balance our budget, we need 8.4, 7.65, we're still not balanced.

[1:12:38] What have we been doing? We've got it.

[1:12:39] I don't mind paying a little more if I know we're getting our money's worth to take care of the things that we need.

[1:12:46] But remember, you guys have heard me speak plenty of times.

[1:12:49] I'm very conservative. Government does water, sewer, trash, public works, the utilities, the police, the fire.

[1:12:56] It's not actually parks and recreation, child care centers, all that kind of stuff is not part of government.

[1:13:04] It's a nice thing we try to do, but we need to take care of making sure we're safe and we can live freely versus are we getting other people's money away to smaller groups to take care of them.

[1:13:18] And as a father of disabled kids, I understand we've taken care of disabled people in the past and we do, you know, the government does certain things.

[1:13:25] But, you know, we're asking you five up there

[1:13:28] when you look at the budget from the city,

[1:13:32] are we really doing what we need to do,

[1:13:34] or are we doing what we want to do?

[1:13:35] So I'd just like to guys look really closely

[1:13:37] all that stuff, when you're considering this military,

[1:13:40] I know it's tough decision,

[1:13:41] and I don't envy any of you.

[1:13:43] But just keep that in mind, we get the 7.4.

[1:13:45] Now, is that going to stake we all made?

[1:13:48] Or are you just over spending?

[1:13:50] Thank you very much.

[1:14:08] I'm not going to go line by line by what I wrote, but I do want to make a point.

[1:14:14] I'm like a lot of people here.

[1:14:16] I live on a fixed income.

[1:14:18] And I just recently, the government said that possibly,

[1:14:22] Social Security might go up 3 to 3.5%.

[1:14:26] You're asking us extremely high increases in the fire assessment,

[1:14:31] the budget and all the assessments.

[1:14:33] It's unsustainable for people like ourselves who do not make a lot of money.

[1:14:40] We live in fixing, because I've been living here over 30 years, my property tax is low,

[1:14:49] but at this point when I got my trim notice, it increased by $700 and that's a lot and that's

[1:15:00] And I think that the city and all city officials need to do a far better job in this budget. Cut, cut the excess spending and do what is right. Look at three years of history of how you've spent and make a right decision and how you should budget line items.

[1:15:20] get rid of things that you don't need.

[1:15:23] You have to think of the people that are strapped.

[1:15:27] The economy is bad, it's getting worse.

[1:15:30] We're paying over $4 a gallon in gas.

[1:15:33] And it's not going to get any better any soon.

[1:15:36] So you will also have to make that decision.

[1:15:38] We're not making the salaries you guys are making.

[1:15:41] So you need to really think, look at this budget, line by line,

[1:15:46] and make the decision that you need to cut when needs to be cut.

[1:15:50] Thank you.

[1:15:58] My name is Uri Segev.

[1:16:01] I am not a resident of the city.

[1:16:03] I own properties of the city.

[1:16:06] I own a specific property and office building at 840 southwest 81st Avenue.

[1:16:12] I was shocked when I received the trim notice a few weeks ago,

[1:16:17] whereby my taxes are going up from $65,000

[1:16:20] to $128,000. My taxes are going a hundred percent, yes. My rent-a-tum collecting

[1:16:30] later on that the building was closed due to the city, all the off-closure, but even

[1:16:35] now that I'm back open and renting, I'm renting for the same rate I got in 2020-23-2024.

[1:16:40] I'm not increasing my rent-a-hundred percent, let alone how difficult in this city to

[1:16:45] to begin with. Let alone that we cannot do triple net rent sealed the way in other cities it's possible.

[1:16:53] Here we collect growth. This is the type of tenants we have and that's what we are collecting.

[1:16:57] I cannot explain to a tenant, I'm sorry, but my taxes went up a hundred percent, I need to collect more rent. It doesn't work.

[1:17:05] It doesn't work. So I went ahead and did some calculations.

[1:17:10] and, by the way, the whole conversation up until now, since five o'clock was about the Ed Volorum,

[1:17:16] which is high, but this is not terrible. When we go into the non Ed Volorum, which is the second page of the

[1:17:23] trim notice that everybody gets, that's where you get shocked. That's where you, in my opinion, in my situation,

[1:17:34] the

[1:17:34] conversation about the village only, and so at the law or the assessments, none ever

[1:17:41] need to come when we discuss the items please.

[1:17:44] You want me to finish, you want me to continue to come back later, what come back?

[1:17:48] I don't know.

[1:17:49] If you can't, later on, during the presentation, we have a little bit more assessment would

[1:17:54] be after, at the number and below.

[1:17:56] No, not at the volume, so to wait a bit or keep going.

[1:17:59] I don't know, you can, well, we'll come later on with that one now, okay?

[1:18:03] Come back when it was that time.

[1:18:05] No, now the law will be addressed at the right time when that ordinance is being read.

[1:18:11] That's all I'm.

[1:18:12] But it's going to be today.

[1:18:13] Oh, you did it today.

[1:18:15] Yeah, sometime later on.

[1:18:23] All right.

[1:18:30] Good evening.

[1:18:31] My name is Thomas Kales.

[1:18:32] I'm a resident of North Lauderdale since 2019.

[1:18:36] 20.

[1:18:37] They are correction.

[1:18:39] 2019, 1990.

[1:18:41] I'm sorry about that.

[1:18:42] I'm a little bit upset over here, but my taxes are increasing and I've never complained

[1:18:50] about it, you know.

[1:18:52] Every year I pay what is due and I don't see any improvements in my neighborhood whatsoever.

[1:19:00] We got part holes and the street lights that are out and it's stuck, you know.

[1:19:06] And it's at night, very, very simple my wife could get mud over whatever, you know, and I can't protect it because I'm not there, but I can't see what's going on.

[1:19:17] Basically, we're throwing money away and I wish that that would stop.

[1:19:23] Let's consider the residents what they're up against with today's economy and I know that cost of living is going up and things like that.

[1:19:34] we could be more reasonable. I'm about to pay seven, almost $7,000 in taxes, and it's

[1:19:42] the three-two house. The house was built in 1978. That house went when it was built,

[1:19:47] because $35,000. I went the house for $80,000. I have invested almost 200,000 into that

[1:19:56] If you have any improvements and things like that, results.

[1:20:00] So I'm not here to be a squander or waste time or anything like that, but I want you guys to realize

[1:20:09] that I'm a taxpayer. I work hard. I have a wife and I have children and I'm trying to do the best

[1:20:16] to raise them. But you guys are making it more difficult for people like myself to keep up with

[1:20:22] times, really, really is. There should be a better consideration on your behalf for the people

[1:20:31] that you represent. That's all I have to say.

[1:20:43] Well, I have to know everyone, my name is Senobilu, and I like to hear all of you talking about

[1:20:51] reduction or your different departments and I love it. When it comes to us, you're raising

[1:20:58] raising, raising, raising, raising everything up. So it doesn't go. You need to know when you need

[1:21:06] reduction for your department, which I understand. I'm running my company and I need

[1:21:11] reduction. I cannot somebody say, okay, we're going to, you have 100% up more. From 35,000 to 75,000.

[1:21:20] Guys, it doesn't go. Our mathematics is the same like yours. We cannot get rent, people cannot

[1:21:26] pay and I understand them because they need to close the business. But you guys need to understand

[1:21:32] with the business commercial owner of this city, with the bread and butter of the city,

[1:21:39] the pay taxes heavy, heavy taxes every year. I mean, 25 business in this city, double as the city.

[1:21:46] 25 years. And I don't give up by you guys, put a lot of pressure on me,

[1:21:51] If you die stay on this North Florida land,

[1:21:54] or I go to other cities that I do deal with them.

[1:21:57] So I love you all.

[1:21:59] I appreciate all of you doing a good job.

[1:22:02] So I do look also the commercial, not only the attention,

[1:22:06] we cannot just raise, raise, raise,

[1:22:08] and say, no, they have the money.

[1:22:09] No, we don't have, sorry to tell you.

[1:22:12] We don't have you going to put us into bankruptcy,

[1:22:15] and that's not what you want, that's not what I want.

[1:22:18] I appreciate you, everybody.

[1:22:19] Thank you, Mayor, Commissioner, Vice Mayor, and the dignity of the year.

[1:22:24] Thank you.

[1:22:25] Sir,

[1:22:27] please state your name.

[1:22:29] Sam below.

[1:22:30] I saw that said in the beginning.

[1:22:32] Sam below.

[1:22:34] I'm alone if you want to know.

[1:22:36] It's Kimberly Plaza.

[1:22:38] Only the first and Kimberly.

[1:22:40] Thank you.

[1:22:49] Thank you.

[1:22:49] Good evening, everyone.

[1:22:51] My name is Ann Marie Bernardin.

[1:22:52] I am a resident of Northwaterdale for the last three years.

[1:22:56] years, it has been pure unadulterated health since I've lived here. I can't get anything done.

[1:23:02] I have to wait 18 months for a street light to go up. You guys want me to pay. $6,500 a year in

[1:23:12] US dollars to live in what I'm going to call a question of only abroad. I'm looking at

[1:23:18] the EV. I'm looking at plantation. I'm looking at all, and I'm like really, how can they

[1:23:22] have a normal millage rate, but we have to pay higher than everybody else. So, as Al-Miseid,

[1:23:30] people 40% of this city lives on a fixed budget. That means that they don't make an and they

[1:23:35] make less than $50,000 a year. The median household income is $60,000. So, you're telling me that the

[1:23:42] house that I bought three years ago is so amazingly expensive and it has to be assessed at such a high

[1:23:48] value, that I need to be $7,000 so that that means that I can't make any improvements on my

[1:23:54] house.

[1:23:55] You guys are not going to help me because I make too much money because I'm not a table veteran

[1:23:58] or I'm not a Medicaid or I'm not a senior citizen, but I do have a disabled veteran husband

[1:24:04] than we can't make any improvements to the house because the tax is $7,000 a year.

[1:24:10] And I overpaid for the house because guess what?

[1:24:12] The real estate is literally the only place in Brewer County that you got three years ago

[1:24:16] at least.

[1:24:16] that you could find a place that was under $500,000, so with that set, understanding that half of this

[1:24:23] county, half of the city is making less than $50,000 a year. We are being grossly over assessed

[1:24:30] as far as our property values are concerned. I think that we need to seriously reconsider every

[1:24:36] single part of the village that's being increased. It doesn't look like a whole lot on paper,

[1:24:40] But that 2.265, whatever it is, that is costing us an enormous amount of money.

[1:24:49] This is an extra $1,000 on my tax, a $1,000 on my taxes.

[1:24:54] For one year, I've looked at your three years and it just keeps escalating it, escalating it, escalating it, escalating.

[1:24:58] I have p-

[1:25:00] Not holes, a bunch of Section 8 renters, no street lights, fathom bonds up and down Bailey. Running through my neighborhood

[1:25:09] at night because that's where we decided to sleep and nobody's doing a goddamn thing about it. So guess what? I'm going to ask

[1:25:15] every single one of you because I emailed everybody who works for the City of Northwaterdale to seriously

[1:25:20] we consider cutting $200,000 that's going to J.C. Parking a beautiful light and all that other stuff

[1:25:26] put a light on my street. Start then. I don't care about any beautiful lights, but this needs to be

[1:25:31] seriously reassessed. This village needs to go down to like 2% because we live in the freaking

[1:25:36] hood and you guys know it. Okay, this city's poor. Man, I would appreciate, man. I'm sorry,

[1:25:42] we'd appreciate if you keep the language appropriate, please. The hood is hers.

[1:25:48] But, man, man, I'd say if you agree with you.

[1:25:50] Mayor Borsalin.

[1:25:52] No, no, no, no, no, Mayor Borsalin, I'm taking my time.

[1:25:55] Man, man.

[1:25:56] What I'm not going to do?

[1:25:57] Man, it's coastline.

[1:25:59] If I would appreciate.

[1:26:01] That is going to put beautification light and I can't put a dead street

[1:26:04] like put on my street.

[1:26:06] I'm not going to do that.

[1:26:08] With all the respect.

[1:26:09] With all the respect.

[1:26:10] I've heard my position on this matter.

[1:26:13] Man, with all the respect.

[1:26:15] One last time, I am done.

[1:26:17] one last time. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

[1:26:26] Okay, let's let's make it straight.

[1:26:30] We've been very we've been very leaning at the bottom. We're going to ask if you cannot keep the order.

[1:26:38] I'm going to ask you to be escorted very nicely. Please we don't want to get that. It's not worth that.

[1:26:44] There's no need for that. We'll just ask respect. First of all, let me say please. A lot of people do not

[1:26:50] understand what's going on. When we say, you guys, you guys need to understand the role

[1:26:54] of the commission to represent your interest. A lot of decision, we are is proposed to

[1:27:00] the commission. Tonight is what the commission will do to settle to ask what you are asking.

[1:27:06] But seems like a lot of people do not understand how government the city proposes the commission

[1:27:12] will adopt, will set it up. This is not proposed by the particular commission. I just want to make

[1:27:18] clear like that. And I understand that, but please, always ask is respect, mutual respect.

[1:27:25] We're not going to disrespect, please, respect everyone here, and the audience. Thank

[1:27:30] you very much. Go ahead, ma'am.

[1:27:33] Ma'am.

[1:27:34] Ma'am.

[1:27:35] Ma'am.

[1:27:37] Ma'am.

[1:27:38] Ma'am.

[1:27:39] Ma'am.

[1:27:39] not? I'm sorry. You addressed the question. You addressed the question. I addressed to the chair.

[1:27:51] I just wanted clarification on page 31 that the young lady presented earlier. So this is all from what was presented earlier, correct?

[1:28:01] Okay.

[1:28:01] It's on the management budget. That's what we asked for.

[1:28:18] Can you clarify to me what's a transfer to fire, what does that represent, transfer to

[1:28:23] bias?

[1:28:23] It was $1.00.

[1:28:25] Yes, ma'am.

[1:28:26] Yes, ma'am.

[1:28:28] So under state law, the cities can have a fire assessment.

[1:28:34] And so the fire assessment basically covers the fire portion of the fire rescue operation.

[1:28:41] So, the city hires, a prior consultant, that does an evaluation, looks at call data and so on,

[1:28:49] and determines a percentage that is fire and a percentage that is rescue.

[1:28:56] The fire assessment that will be dealt with later on today in the meeting deals with the fire part of the fire rescue department.

[1:29:04] The transfer from the general fund to the fire department for the $1.2 million covers the rescue portion of the fire rescue department.

[1:29:16] Because by state law, we cannot have a fire rescue assessment, and so the general fund pays where the taxpayers pay for the rescue portion.

[1:29:26] And this is separate from non-adgloria.

[1:29:30] So the fire assessment is non-advalorum.

[1:29:34] And so out of the general fund, out of the $46, $47,000,

[1:29:40] but $46 million budget this year, 1.2 of it goes

[1:29:44] to the fire department to make them hold.

[1:29:46] OK, so when you capture that, then you transfer from that to gear.

[1:29:51] Yes, so we'll take that from the general fund

[1:29:53] transfer it to the fire so they have a complete budget.

[1:29:57] My next question was on.

[1:30:02] I guess the same page where you speak of the police contract increases up a million and a half.

[1:30:08] And I know you said you said it twice. You said it twice. But then on page 22, where you, when other departments

[1:30:14] were doing their presentation, is that the same as this police department increase of $2 million?

[1:30:21] Yes, ma'am, so what has happened are, we contract with the Sheriff's Office as of October 1, 2021-26.

[1:30:30] It's our new contract, Commission recently entered into the new contract.

[1:30:35] The additional part of that is that the state of Florida,

[1:30:40] and its infinite wisdom decided to increase the amount of retirement pay or percentage that every city or county has to pay

[1:30:51] for every police officer or firefighter into the FRS

[1:30:55] to Florida retirement system.

[1:30:57] This year, the state increased that contribution,

[1:31:02] and they dumped it 100% onto the cities and county.

[1:31:06] So a firefighter in North Lauderdale or police officer,

[1:31:11] even though they work for the Sheriff's Office, right?

[1:31:12] They pay 3% of their pay goes into their retirement.

[1:31:16] The city is contributing now about 35-36%.

[1:31:21] And so if you look at that, the other way right for a general employee,

[1:31:26] non-police, non-fire in North Florida, we contribute 14%.

[1:31:31] And so it's a big difference, but it's again, it's an unfunded mandate from the state

[1:31:35] that dumps that onto the city and we have no say.

[1:31:39] So it's not in addition to this to me in recent years.

[1:31:41] No, it's total.

[1:31:42] So that's what me and I have with the

[1:31:45] it's total because we recently received the difference for the FLS increase.

[1:31:51] Okay.

[1:31:52] And my final question was

[1:31:55] Page 61.

[1:32:03] Well, you did, you did half of it.

[1:32:06] So you spoke on.

[1:32:09] So you listed.

[1:32:11] She went online and listed different ones that are not included in the budget.

[1:32:15] Yes, ma'am.

[1:32:16] OK, this whole piece says not included in the proposed budget, but the very top line, the

[1:32:22] 10 million to the mortite purpose center, was not one of those ones that was kicked out by

[1:32:27] not included in the budget.

[1:32:29] So it can say, this 10 million is not in the budget.

[1:32:33] But that's not one of the ones that she says wasn't in the budget.

[1:32:36] She went to a list of them and she started with the one mean for the city hall and then

[1:32:40] she went down the line.

[1:32:41] We're sorry.

[1:32:42] Well, I could tell with that.

[1:32:43] You, because we were voting on the general fund,

[1:32:47] regarding the marriage, and then that one for the fire,

[1:32:50] multi-purpose, that belongs to the fire funds.

[1:32:53] So that's why I included that.

[1:32:55] I excluded that from the presentation that I gave.

[1:32:58] Just like the second one that says utilities,

[1:33:00] that would come out of the United States.

[1:33:01] Just give those talk to us.

[1:33:02] Because that would come out of the United States.

[1:33:04] Because that would come out of the utilities' assessment.

[1:33:07] Which is the general fund.

[1:33:08] Not the general fund.

[1:33:10] So that was my question.

[1:33:11] we can talk to you later about it.

[1:33:13] And so Mr. Mayor, if I could just quickly

[1:33:14] come to you just to address a couple things.

[1:33:18] The first thing it was brought up by at least two speakers

[1:33:21] about the appraisal of their property.

[1:33:24] As we shared when we had the property appraiser here

[1:33:27] for a town hall meeting, that was advertised

[1:33:30] to all the residents in North Florida.

[1:33:32] The property appraiser told everyone, right?

[1:33:35] The city does not appraise property.

[1:33:38] The property appraiser appraises property.

[1:33:40] property appraiser was very clear. If you have an issue with the field, your property

[1:33:44] value is too high. You need to reach out to the property appraiser's office. They will

[1:33:50] tell you what you need to do to have your property reappraised. Again, the city doesn't

[1:33:55] appraise property. That's done by the Breyer County property appraiser. Mr. Cargave

[1:34:01] his phone number out to probably about 2,000 people that were here that day to call him

[1:34:06] So he could look into those and anybody that wants we can provide Mr.

[1:34:10] Cars information so that you can call his office to how to get your property whether it's

[1:34:15] commercial or residential reappraised.

[1:34:18] The next thing I just want to address that, you know, if you look at our general fund expenditures

[1:34:24] in fiscal year 2024, it was $42.6 million.

[1:34:30] Today, if you fast forward to 2027, we are proposing $48 million.

[1:34:36] So it is a $4 million increase.

[1:34:39] It is a reduction of $6 million over last year.

[1:34:43] So we have looked at reducing the budget.

[1:34:46] And so as the mayor said, the commission tonight in their first hearing, this is your first

[1:34:52] opportunity to vote on what the milliderate will be for fiscal year 2627.

[1:35:00] The number you give tonight, whether whatever that number is, we will then go back and we will work to redo our budget once again, and we will present to you again on September 28th. A final budget at the village that you're going to propose tonight.

[1:35:18] And then that final village will have some use possibly of reserves or additional cuts to get to where we need to be. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[1:35:27] Okay, thank you.

[1:35:29] I see one more person.

[1:35:32] Okay.

[1:35:33] Two more people.

[1:35:34] Okay.

[1:35:35] Let me see how many more needs to speak on this item.

[1:35:39] I go one, two.

[1:35:40] Okay.

[1:35:40] That's it.

[1:35:40] Thank you.

[1:35:41] Good evening, Mayor.

[1:35:43] Good evening, Vice Mayor.

[1:35:44] Good evening, commissioners.

[1:35:45] Give me a scene manager.

[1:35:46] City clerk.

[1:35:46] You see the attorney.

[1:35:47] Sorry, I missed you guys up.

[1:35:49] Good evening.

[1:35:49] Well, they look right.

[1:35:50] Three, twenty, four southwest.

[1:35:51] If avenue.

[1:35:52] And I just, I'll make my question very brief.

[1:35:57] I know a lot of residents do not know this, but our property values have gone up.

[1:36:01] And the question I simply am accessing, and I think a resident actually asked me that question.

[1:36:05] If our property values have gone up, we're getting money from that,

[1:36:09] and we're raising also the proposed millage rate is 7.65%.

[1:36:16] The question I simply asked is, why is the additional on top of raising our taxes

[1:36:21] in the assessments that you guys were talking about as well as getting the money from the

[1:36:24] evaluation of our properties. Why then are we now still going? Why then are we still having

[1:36:29] to go into our reserves to balance the budget to pay our everyday operational bills? That's it.

[1:36:35] Thank you. Thank you. You may. So, Mr. Mayor. So, basically what we're looking at in the use of reserves

[1:36:44] is we're trying to greatly reduce the dependency on reserves moving forward.

[1:36:52] As I stated earlier, the great unknown is what happens on November 3rd with the property tax reform.

[1:36:58] If property taxes, if property tax passes and Florida, right, the city will lose about $7 million.

[1:37:05] We've started the process along with most of the other cities throughout the state,

[1:37:10] We're trying to refine our budgets so that we are in a position to be able to continue to offer services depending on what happens with the property tax.

[1:37:20] So, we proposed using 272,000 dollars in reserves at 7.65.

[1:37:27] Tonight, the commission could say, we wanted to be 7.65 with no use of reserves.

[1:37:33] We will come back with no reserves at the next budget when you pass your final budget.

[1:37:40] You could say seven would no reserves and we will do everything possible to get to that number and we will explain to the commission how we got to that number and the impacts that it may have eventually on city services.

[1:37:54] So we are trying to be as careful as possible with the use of the reserves.

[1:38:01] And so, that's the answer, whether, again, whether it's like they're not, we're trying to give a respectful answer to the question why we're using some reserves, whether or not the final decision of the commission is to use reserves or not is a commission decision.

[1:38:21] Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker.

[1:38:26] Hello, my name is Miranda Carmichael, 2040 Winners Circle.

[1:38:31] I just have two couple of quick things.

[1:38:33] One, I know I've been here when you guys have discussed making North Waterdale

[1:38:37] Destination where people want to come.

[1:38:41] I've been a small business owner, I've released commercial property.

[1:38:44] I know how much those rates changing every year can impact small businesses,

[1:38:49] specifically in times where discretionary spending is low.

[1:38:53] When you look at raising taxes on any group of people,

[1:38:57] when you increase them for commercial real estate,

[1:39:02] those small businesses feel that impact,

[1:39:04] and they may leave the city of Northwaterdale

[1:39:06] making it far less of a destination

[1:39:08] instead of more as I believe the commission is working towards.

[1:39:13] Additionally, I wanted to know

[1:39:17] This slide that's up here now, some of the items that were submitted after the proposed budget was balanced,

[1:39:24] how does that affect what the military looks like when those get factored into the budget?

[1:39:32] Also, I look at budgets for everything in my job, in my home, for my community.

[1:39:39] And I see a lot of things in looking here where decisions might need to be made, whether something is a want or a need.

[1:39:47] I do want to do a lot of things around my house as presidents of my H.O.A. I want to do a lot of things around my community, but I don't always have the funding for those things.

[1:39:57] So I ask you to please consider what is-

[1:40:00] There's a really necessary now, and what maybe we can start partially funding for leader on down the road. Thank you very much.

[1:40:07] Thank you.

[1:40:12] Okay, I've seen no more speakers.

[1:40:19] We will bring

[1:40:24] you back to the commission for questions.

[1:40:29] We're going to leave the Malaysian budget, please, before we go on, or should we go motion?

[1:40:36] Do you reckon?

[1:40:38] Well, let me be fair.

[1:40:40] Are you sure I didn't?

[1:40:42] Okay, can we say yes?

[1:40:44] All right, thank you.

[1:40:46] There.

[1:40:47] I want us to say, first off, thank everyone for coming out tonight.

[1:40:50] It's kind of good to see everyone here tonight.

[1:40:52] voice therapy and shows that you guys are 10 of them, the alert, paying attention, but I

[1:40:59] do want to just reiterate that that 8.4 was a proposed budget, because we keep hearing

[1:41:04] saying, y'all setting it, and that says what you guys are doing, and the April was proposed.

[1:41:12] So, just understand that that's proposed as we're going towards this, also a few things

[1:41:17] that I want to ex, the one on page 31 at the end,

[1:41:21] it says a home rehab, a hometown program, a hero program.

[1:41:26] Just tell me a little bit more about that.

[1:41:28] A few people answer questions about that.

[1:41:33] So that is a home rehab and home town hero program.

[1:41:37] It's a program that the Commission established last year.

[1:41:41] The home rehab helps residents make repairs to their homes,

[1:41:48] depending on their qualifications, it could be for a new air conditioner, it could be to expand their driveway,

[1:41:55] it could be for a new roof, it could be for impact windows.

[1:41:59] And so that's what the Home Rehab part is, the Home Town Hero program was a possible program

[1:42:08] that would allow the city to buy distress properties, renovate those distress properties,

[1:42:15] and then sell them to police, officers, firefighters, schoolteachers, or some, or, or, you know,

[1:42:24] in the hopes of helping turn around a neighborhood in general. That is a program that we tried to

[1:42:35] get a state appropriation money for. The program was widely received by our state legislators on

[1:42:44] sides of the aisle. However, it was not something that in the end was funded by the state. So

[1:42:49] it is something that we will look at possibly for federal appropriation or an additional state

[1:42:54] appropriation to help fund that as well. But that's what that money is for.

[1:42:59] So we're looking for grant money for that. We will look for additional

[1:43:04] assistance, or excuse me, additional appropriation, either federal or state, not so much grant,

[1:43:10] Because the state has a program that also, right, they have the My Florida Safe Program and they also have their own hometown here a program.

[1:43:21] This state, this is designed more for North Florida.

[1:43:24] And a question was asked on Saturday, if we were to cut some of these grants out that we are given kind of going towards more so like the older previous commissioners doing kind of being more tired or less spending.

[1:43:38] What were the, they kind of get more those assistance from if we weren't, not then we going to come, I'm just ex, just because it was ex Saturday.

[1:43:49] Mr. Mayor, so if the city were to eliminate home rehab program, I know we also have some money from a CDVJ, which is the community development block grant that residents would still be able to apply for.

[1:44:03] option that they would have to apply through the state program, the my say Florida program,

[1:44:09] there was a program that we shared earlier in the year for seniors through the area agency

[1:44:15] of Barra County where they had money for home repairs for seniors in certain qualifications,

[1:44:22] and so residents would have to turn to those programs for funding.

[1:44:26] One more thing, I want you to just touch on our discretionary funding, just a little bit

[1:44:33] I lead the conversation by saying most of the time people think even was brought up Saturday that that money is something like we are kind of personally get

[1:44:42] But could you just explain the discretionary and the even the history with how the 1500 comes in and just explain that just a little bit for everyone

[1:44:50] So Mr. Mayor the

[1:44:53] The discretionary money was originally part of the city's waste management contract

[1:45:00] To go all the way back into the weeds, they had originally earmarked $7,500 to go towards events.

[1:45:06] And it was just a blanket term events.

[1:45:09] At the time, the prior commission, not this commission,

[1:45:14] asked if it could go towards the commission to use for district events

[1:45:19] or to help not for profits or other groups.

[1:45:23] And so that was the policy that the commission established.

[1:45:26] And so it has to be used for a public purpose, so you can't just help somebody make a car payment or, you know, buy new refrigerator.

[1:45:37] The money doesn't go to you all, there is a formal process to request the funding.

[1:45:43] It has to be verified that the funding meets the proper uses as outlined.

[1:45:49] And then the last step would be that the commissioner or the elected official has the money still available and then the money is provided.

[1:46:00] So with the proposed given us the 5,000 technically to say that we're given a 3500 and the waste management we still collect the $1,500 or the 7500 from waste management so correct.

[1:46:17] All right.

[1:46:17] That's all my questions for them.

[1:46:19] Right now.

[1:46:19] Thank you.

[1:46:20] Thank you.

[1:46:22] Thank you.

[1:46:22] Thank you so much, Mayor.

[1:46:28] I want to say thank you to all the staff for such a thorough presentation tonight.

[1:46:33] Thank you.

[1:46:34] There's several questions that I do have.

[1:46:38] We mentioned this special event contract.

[1:46:40] What exactly is that?

[1:46:43] And do we have an amount that we actually set aside for these special events?

[1:46:48] So the special event contract was a position that lost budget year, the commission created a special event person within the Parks and Recreation Department.

[1:47:00] That was turned into a contract position and the goal or the vision is that prior to that we had a special event contract person that worked on a percentage of an event cost.

[1:47:16] So if they were planning a $10,000 event for the city, their cost was 20%, so they made $2,000.

[1:47:26] And so the goal is to, of that, $76,000 is to eliminate $50,000, and it goes towards,

[1:47:36] and then the leaving the $26,000 for that 20% percentage when special events are, when somebody

[1:47:45] is needed to assist with a special event, whether it's a special event that the commissioner

[1:47:50] are putting on through their discretionary funds or whether it's a special event that the city

[1:47:55] is putting on.

[1:47:57] The reason, actually, I think there's a lot of events that we do host at City Hall that we

[1:48:04] probably could look at and also maybe collaborating and because I know when we do have these events,

[1:48:11] So we have to pay staff, police, and et cetera, so that's something we want to look into.

[1:48:17] I would like to know if there is a way of getting a contrast between these last history for

[1:48:25] these last two years versus now how much we've actually spent from the reserve.

[1:48:30] I would like to know that.

[1:48:32] Now, I know a lot of this is based on November 3rd.

[1:48:36] We have the property tax reform, right?

[1:48:40] And so I know a lot will change depending on how votes go on November the 3rd, and thank

[1:48:49] you staff so much because over the years you guys have dealt with a very sleek budget.

[1:48:57] And I want to say this and I'm not picking, you know, trying to be the sorrow ball tonight,

[1:49:02] but we need to understand because I see that we do have someone here, you know, taking content.

[1:49:07] And this is not content, this is real life, these are real residents, and what we put out there

[1:49:12] matters, right?

[1:49:14] So we want to be very, very careful that we are not trying to make this look a certain

[1:49:19] way because many of us are concerned because, of course, the economy has changed, I mean,

[1:49:25] like a lot of the residents today that have fixed budgets and et cetera.

[1:49:29] So we would just want to make sure that whatever we put out on social media, that it is actually

[1:49:35] showing exactly what's happening in this room tonight.

[1:49:40] I wanted to say that. The other thing is,

[1:49:47] a lot of these events, and of course, you know, the last time we talked about this, I was blamed for something I said on the day is that kind of prevented the people from coming out, right?

[1:50:00] We have these events, we want to make sure that, because historically speaking, North Laudidad, I say this all the time, we're spoiled, right?

[1:50:09] North Laudidad isn't used to certain things. And so we want to make sure that it just makes sense. And there was a resident that, you know, she mentioned a certain term. I'm not going to reiterate what she mentioned, but we are look as that, as far as I'm going to go with that.

[1:50:29] And so I think there's a lot of things that we can look at because this, I mean, we've been talking about this budget for a while.

[1:50:38] And so there's a lot of things on here that I think we can probably just kind of expound and elaborate on.

[1:50:45] As far as spending where this money is going, what have we actually, the comparison again from spending from the last three years, four years, the history and now how much have we increased.

[1:50:56] I've heard when I came in, yes, we are looking to decrease, but I have a problem with some

[1:51:02] of things that we're trying to decrease for instance, training and traveling for our staff.

[1:51:06] They need training in order to train in these different areas.

[1:51:10] They need to travel.

[1:51:11] So there's a lot of things that I feel as if this commission does not need, is not necessary.

[1:51:17] And I think we can go back to the drawing ball and look at this a little thoroughly.

[1:51:22] Again, thank you staff for such a great presentation, but I do think that we can do better.

[1:51:28] And again, I know that we are, you know, we have a sleek budget.

[1:51:33] We cannot compare ourselves to coral springs or any other the sister cities around us.

[1:51:40] However, there has been a lot of spending these past couple years that my opinion.

[1:51:46] And because of facts and because me talking to staff as well, I don't feel it was necessary.

[1:51:51] Thank you so much.

[1:51:54] Thank you any other commissioner?

[1:51:57] To the chair.

[1:51:58] You recognize my commissioner.

[1:52:01] Thank you finance and all the departments that are involved in getting this budget done.

[1:52:09] And we have worked really gently for a long time.

[1:52:13] And listening to Commissioner Martin, she made a point that I completely agree with as it relates to

[1:52:21] parks and recreation training because for training it's very important that the staff knows

[1:52:26] what they're doing there. They're dealing with children. And the safety of children there

[1:52:31] laws are very strict as it really is the children. So I would like to see that some funds

[1:52:40] but put back in where we're looking at training seminars and increasing it so that they stop

[1:52:49] and get exactly what they need to get.

[1:52:53] So my proposal, as it relates to all this,

[1:52:57] is that we, as commissioners and mayor,

[1:53:01] we have a duty to the city and to the residents

[1:53:05] and everyone is feeling the pinch is hard for everyone.

[1:53:09] So I recommend that we are going to show leadership

[1:53:13] and we should give back 5% of our salary to help to balance the budget.

[1:53:22] I'm hoping that all of our other commissioners and mares will see this as

[1:53:29] some way we can help our residents.

[1:53:33] I hope everybody agrees with that. I agree.

[1:53:43] All right, you don't commission?

[1:53:45] Oh, thank you, Mayor. Yes.

[1:53:46] I swear if you have anything to say yes please, you're recognized.

[1:53:50] I just want to say something about the mirroreds.

[1:53:56] I would like to propose to keep 7.4 and set it all nowhere else because I speak with quite

[1:54:05] a few residents and not nobody is happy at all, you know, if we go up one point because that

[1:54:13] I mean, if we go up to 7.65, it's going to be about $100 per year at every resident of

[1:54:27] base it on $400,000, so out there, the people are not happy at all, if we move that number

[1:54:36] at all, so we, I understand that I've been living here in this city.

[1:54:43] for almost 40 years, 40 years, and I understand, I understand the rest of us and I talk

[1:54:52] to a lot of residents out there and I believe we should move that number at all, because

[1:54:59] uh, it's...

[1:55:00] 1,100 dollars per year, base it on $400,000 unit, you know, a property. Thank you. All right, every

[1:55:11] nice spoke now. Let me as a CDM, thank you very much. Mr. Manager, what is the approximate revenue

[1:55:19] difference between 7.6500 mills in the 7.4 if for that side of this and if the

[1:55:33] commission were to adopt 7.4 tonight what adjustment would be necessary.

[1:55:39] So Mr. Mayor, the slide before you shows that at 7.4 mills right we would collect

[1:55:47] $19,965 compared to 20.6 million, so we would collect $600,000 less.

[1:55:57] It would using today's budget, right, if we cut nothing else out of the budget, it would

[1:56:02] require use of $674,000 out of fund balance in order to give you a balance budget.

[1:56:10] If the direction from the commission tonight is to roam the budget from $6,7.65 to $7.4.

[1:56:17] The next question we would ask is, where are you comfortable with use of fund balance so that we can finalize and give you back a budget at the end of September?

[1:56:29] Are you okay with the $675,000? Do you want that lowered?

[1:56:36] It requires, because this is going to require four fifths vote of the elected officials.

[1:56:41] And so I'd like to get that as well so that when we give you the budget, when we meet again on September 28th,

[1:56:50] we're giving you exactly what you want.

[1:56:53] Okay, yeah, but I understand that we can just look at cuts.

[1:56:58] I'd like to see, I know that government should be able to first look carefully at

[1:57:04] efficiencies, expenditures, and alternative revenues before asking the reason to, before we

[1:57:13] go to that direction there.

[1:57:15] So with that said, there's so many other options alternative would like to explore to see

[1:57:20] how we can get that done, because I really support the proposed, what the Vice-Mayor

[1:57:29] mentioned for 7.4 miles, but while we'll still maintain essential service that we need

[1:57:35] and directly administer to bring us a balanced budget consistent with that rate and finding

[1:57:43] outside source resources there's plenty option there and we got time to do that. So I

[1:57:54] have the

[1:57:55] presentation.

[1:57:59] I see the numbers which is showed here and most importantly we heard from the

[1:58:05] that we're not just tonight, but we're before, and that's what we're

[1:58:08] explained. We have a lot of residents here. And I'm glad people had an

[1:58:12] opportunity to hear to understand or not everybody understand what's

[1:58:14] going on, but to understand the role of everyone.

[1:58:21] And I know what the CD has

[1:58:23] important obligations and important projects that we have ahead of us. One of the

[1:58:28] page was shown other project that not expensive, not on the budget, and wisely someone

[1:58:36] has the question about that, all these needs to be answered,

[1:58:41] and we still must continue

[1:58:42] providing public safety and infrastructure that is very important.

[1:58:48] The parks, a program for youth and seniors, the essential services, before I move on to the

[1:58:56] I just want to know how one one one reason mentioned that earlier

[1:59:04] How did we get from

[1:59:06] I believe 40,000 to 60,000 for the park jacepart and 200,000

[1:59:13] And

[1:59:15] For the landings to go all way to up to two minutes. I don't understand that

[1:59:20] If we could get that response first sure so

[1:59:23] That landings park is a grant that the city applied for.

[1:59:28] It is a federal land water conservation fund grant.

[1:59:33] And so our match for that grant is a $3 million grant if we get the grant.

[1:59:42] Our share of that will be 50%.

[1:59:45] So we would pay $1.5 million and the state share would be $1.5 million if there's any

[1:59:53] to the project, it would then come out of the general fund or decide you have to pay the additional.

[2:00:00] It's, you can't amend a concrete grant once you apply for it. And so right now, there's no money set aside in the upcoming fiscal year for that, because we still have not, still have not gotten the agreements as we've shared with the commission before from the federal government.

[2:00:19] And so until we get a contract for the city attorney's office to review and for the commission

[2:00:26] to enter into, that project is just on the wish list.

[2:00:30] The same.

[2:00:31] If you look down on that list, you'll also see Hampton Binds Park is also a $3 million.

[2:00:36] A $3 million grant that, again, same thing.

[2:00:40] It's a landlord of grant, $1.5 million from the federal government, $1.5 million from

[2:00:45] the city.

[2:00:46] And again, that one was awarded, but again, we haven't gotten the contract yet, and so those

[2:00:51] are still in limbo as to whether or not we will either even get contracts from the federal

[2:00:57] government for the, we certainly hope we do, but we haven't gotten those contracts.

[2:01:00] But those are not in this current year's, or excuse me, they're not in the proposed budget

[2:01:06] for next year, those are in outlier years, because by the time we get the contract and are

[2:01:11] to it and then start going out for bids, it'll take a whole year before all those contracts

[2:01:16] can be awarded.

[2:01:18] All right.

[2:01:18] Thank you very much.

[2:01:19] Now, it's been, well, I'm going to make it there.

[2:01:25] Mayors have been wrongly forced accused of raising taxes, well, rightfully so, the mayors

[2:01:34] make a motion there, making a motion to amend the proposed operating military from

[2:01:41] 547.6, 502.7.4, mills improved the

[2:01:48] management ordinance on the first reading as amended,

[2:01:52] and subject to all requirements,

[2:01:54] statutory calculation in driving

[2:01:56] memes cosmetics attorney,

[2:01:59] could you confirm if

[2:02:00] this is proper motion please?

[2:02:03] Promotion is proper, is just changing

[2:02:06] … the re, which was

[2:02:08] which we read as at $7.6,000, or $7.6, $5,00 for $1,000 of taxable access property value to $7.4,000.

[2:02:27] That would be the change I would be noted by the city clerk.

[2:02:31] Okay.

[2:02:31] Yes, it's second.

[2:02:33] Okay.

[2:02:33] Thank you.

[2:02:34] Madam Clerk, the roll call please.

[2:02:37] Commissioner Martin?

[2:02:41] Through the chair.

[2:02:42] Yes.

[2:02:42] But wouldn't that be proposed by Commissioner?

[2:02:47] Madam, we're not finding here.

[2:02:49] Madam, we just want to make sure

[2:02:51] that this is, you know, done appropriately

[2:02:55] because I heard.

[2:02:57] Okay, let me ask, let me ask hold on, hold on, let me ask.

[2:03:00] Vice Mayor, we're not here, we're not here to divide ourselves.

[2:03:04] We're here for one, we are here for one.

[2:03:06] It's not about credit anything.

[2:03:07] We're here, we're here to do the right thing.

[2:03:10] Vice Mayor proposed, but he did not see never said emotion. He said right we're on the same page

[2:03:17] It doesn't matter if you want to if you want to lick the motion go ahead

[2:03:20] It doesn't matter who makes the motion because all is about is want to reduce it from I could even go lower than that

[2:03:26] It doesn't matter who makes the motion the motion is to be who amended?

[2:03:31] I just made an amendment to that separate. We're on the same page. No, we are on this thing

[2:03:35] But we also want to make sure

[2:03:37] This is fine. That's fine. Let's be on the same page. Let's not let's go on the same page.

[2:03:43] It's just because I've seen China 57 here and I want to make sure that content.

[2:03:48] What is being said and done here is the language, the energy, everything that the residents are being seen.

[2:03:55] Who they are and we're not trying to put content out here trying to make it seem like it's something else.

[2:04:01] So that's all.

[2:04:02] Okay, it's Madam Clerk the motion is been moved in seconded. Please do the roll call. Thank you

[2:04:10] Yes, of course

[2:04:12] Commissioner who is Rickets. Yes, by Mayor Boost of Montenegro. Yes

[2:04:18] Commissioner Lewis. Yes, and Mayor Bourgillard. Yes

[2:04:29] Okay, we will now move to

[2:04:34] proceed to item three

[2:04:36] to the chair. Do I have to make a motion about or 5% decrease? If you choose, so

[2:04:45] my, my, my, my, I'm attorney. Well, you say. Oh, all of that. I, I, I, unless you come back to another.

[2:04:52] The thing I believe that it's probably more appropriate in the budget. Yes.

[2:04:57] Then it was in the military. Right. Okay. Okay.

[2:05:00] So, you can reserve that and present it then. Okay. Thank you. All right.

[2:05:05] Let's make a clarification. Okay.

[2:05:09] That takes us to 87.

[2:05:12] We'll proceed to item 3B. Yes. First reading.

[2:05:18] An ordinance of the city commission of the city of Northwaterdale, Florida, adopting the attached annual budget for

[2:05:26] City of North Florida deal for the period beginning October 1st, 2026, and ending September

[2:05:33] 3027, providing for budget for the general fund, special revenue funds, capital project

[2:05:40] fund, enterprise fund, and internal service funds, allocating appropriating and authorizing

[2:05:47] expenses in accordance with, and for the purposes stated in said budget, providing for

[2:05:54] military, providing possibility, providing for conflict, and providing an effective date.

[2:06:03] Okay.

[2:06:04] City Manager Electric just present, make sure you present where we're going to present it, and

[2:06:09] explain any adjustment necessary to make the budget consistent with the military to adopt it.

[2:06:16] Good evening again, Mr. Mayor.

[2:06:18] Members of the Commission, employees and residents, so with the approval of the commission tonight

[2:06:24] to reduce the budget to 7.4 mls. We will work over the next week. We can have to prepare

[2:06:32] a revised budget for you. That looks at potentially additional revenue sources, as well as

[2:06:40] additional programs or projects that could be pushed down the road a little bit, or could be

[2:06:47] to give you a balanced budget at 7.4 mills.

[2:06:52] I will just show you that the budget itself, right, is an increase of 3.1%.

[2:07:01] If you look at all the funds, and so we will go through that 161 million dollar budget,

[2:07:10] and we will find ways to reduce to bring you back a balanced budget at 7.4 mills.

[2:07:18] Okay, so we won't, yeah, we won't need necessary any additional time for tonight to

[2:07:29] numbers.

[2:07:30] We're going to wait for that.

[2:07:30] No, sir.

[2:07:31] Tonight, we'll just be approving the ordinance first reading.

[2:07:35] And then it will come back to you again for a second reading that will be revised

[2:07:39] to meet the new Miller's right that you gave.

[2:07:42] All right.

[2:07:43] Potentially new assessments as well because the budget covers everything so sure depending on what you do with assessments tonight as well

[2:07:51] That'll be the final item that comes back to you. Okay, all right, so

[2:07:59] We're gonna have that present procedure right now, right?

[2:08:03] Just done

[2:08:07] The idea is that the

[2:08:09] The budget that was being proposed to you is subject to revision because of the changes you may

[2:08:15] Right. Right. So, therefore, it would be moved on first reading with the adjustments to be made.

[2:08:24] So, that a second reading, you could have a better review and know for sure what's included in the budget.

[2:08:30] So, this is just a proving so that we could move to the second reading.

[2:08:34] But not a proving the budget, because we know the budget is incorrect,

[2:08:38] and we'll be adjusted between now and second reading.

[2:08:40] Right, but for some of my question right now, the assessment, are we going to discuss that right now?

[2:08:44] the assessment is yes we're going to go on to it when we get to for a right but for

[2:08:55] 3b you're just going to move it to the second reading you're going to approve it

[2:08:59] until the second reading where you get more details. Okay at this time you have the

[2:09:18] meeting with amendments. Right. Motion doubles on first meeting, knowing that the second

[2:09:25] meeting will have a digital edition change.

[2:09:31] So that was the motion. So second there.

[2:09:35] Okay. Any question comments? Have you non-motain clerk the roll please? Commissioner Martin?

[2:09:42] Yes. Commissioner Lewis Wreck-up? Yes. Vice Mayor Booster Monet? Yes. Commissioner Lewis? Yes. Mayor Board John. Yes, it's 712. Madam Attorney, you have the floor.

[2:10:02] We need to go back to your issue, maybe, at this time, we passed the budget subject to certain changes, maybe you want to now say for another amendment.

[2:10:20] Okay. I'd like to propose that you want me to say what I want. You're making a motion

[2:10:30] that the budget when it returns to be amended to include

[2:10:38] a five percent

[2:10:39] of budget in the commission of pay.

[2:10:43] You need a second.

[2:10:48] I had some stuff into that. Any question? Any comments?

[2:10:51] comments please.

[2:10:53] Yeah, come.

[2:10:54] Recognize.

[2:10:55] Thank you.

[2:10:56] I also additionally question about the events that we've been having, the month

[2:11:01] the events that were kind of like add on, that we really don't have a lot of residents that come out to those events

[2:11:06] and the last event we had City Manager in my stress and you out tonight.

[2:11:11] No, no, no, no.

[2:11:12] Okay.

[2:11:13] Okay.

[2:11:14] Okay.

[2:11:14] So the last one we did had, I mean, we were negative like $50,000 I believe.

[2:11:18] So is there any way that we can cut back on these extra events that were having on a monthly basis

[2:11:25] because that's including staff, police, and all this other stuff that we have, and I think that

[2:11:30] also helped to budget?

[2:11:40] So, Sharon, if you could go to that slide, those were one of the events that are one of the items

[2:11:47] that is not yet in the budget.

[2:11:49] So, no action is really needed on that at this time.

[2:11:52] sort

[2:12:02] of numbered. So it's below the feasibility study for special projects. There is a quarterly

[2:12:07] event there. That's $100,000. That's not included in the budget.

[2:12:13] Is it as $100,000? $100,000. Not included. Not included.

[2:12:19] So city attorney, what would I have to do on my end to make sure that at this time,

[2:12:26] time, since it's not in the budget, you don't need to make a motion on it.

[2:12:31] What you would do is look at the budget when it comes to a second reading and it's been

[2:12:36] second reading.

[2:12:37] It now is included in the budget, you could make a motion at that time.

[2:12:42] And can you also get or can you send to my office, I'm seeing a manager, how much we've

[2:12:48] been sending on these events, please?

[2:12:52] Yes, ma'am.

[2:12:53] We'll send it to everybody.

[2:12:54] Thank you.

[2:12:56] Look, sure.

[2:12:57] You all record, guys?

[2:12:58] Oh, well, we're talking about making some cuts.

[2:13:03] I'm going to go on the lines of acts, potentially.

[2:13:07] I know it's going to be very contrary to me, because, you know, I spend my discretionary

[2:13:12] in one month, but maybe potentially cutting that in half, and cutting our travel in half, too.

[2:13:24] That's our total.

[2:13:25] So I was 5,000, 20,500 and cut our travel down from I believe it's 10,000 to 5,000.

[2:13:32] 12,000. 12,000. We cut it again.

[2:13:37] We don't travel as much as no more so.

[2:13:39] Can I second that motion?

[2:13:43] Okay, so the motion is.

[2:13:45] What's the motion?

[2:13:48] I know we have a motion, but I said what was adding on that. What was doing that?

[2:13:52] Do we want to pass the first motion then do a second one?

[2:13:58] The cutting travel is for the commission or for the commission.

[2:14:03] for the commission? I believe that should we pass the first one first? No, I'm just going through the

[2:14:12] logic. So we had a motion. The motion was to approve on first reading, knowing that we are going to make

[2:14:19] adjustments in the second reading. I believe that what is really going on now is that we are

[2:14:26] The Commission is seeking to direct the city manager with respect to what's specific.

[2:14:33] Yes.

[2:14:34] Reduction should be made.

[2:14:37] We made it as a motion before.

[2:14:40] Commissioned the lowest vacant.

[2:14:42] Made a motion to reduce commission salary.

[2:14:46] It could have been just a consensus that everybody agrees to.

[2:14:51] I think it's probably accurate.

[2:14:52] That's what we should do.

[2:14:53] And now you could continue

[2:14:56] Did you hear that it was really a consensus not so much emotion in it?

[2:15:00] And now you can continue making these recommendations, directing the city managers. And now you've made two different ones. One was, you wanted to direct the city manager to cut the discretionary budget for the commissioners in health.

[2:15:18] Commissioners in health.

[2:15:19] That's a direction. Do you have a, you, the mayor has to determine whether you have a consensus with that.

[2:15:27] Okay.

[2:15:28] To the chair, clarification, we have got the discussioner funds from 10 to 5.

[2:15:38] And I'm trying to cut it again.

[2:15:39] So you want to cut it to 2,500?

[2:15:43] One second, one second.

[2:15:45] Can I speak please?

[2:15:47] I listen to you all, even from 6 o'clock.

[2:15:50] 5 o'clock can I just have some respect?

[2:15:53] Thank you.

[2:15:53] I'm just trying to clarify from 5,000 to 2,500, but that does not include our 1,500 that we got before or the 1,000 from waste management that's divided up among 5.

[2:16:10] Can you just clarify so we know exactly what exactly they're cutting. Thank you so much.

[2:16:15] So the 1,500 that we get from could be included, so I guess we just get an extra little something.

[2:16:23] You understand? No. So we get 1500. Okay, and then we're adding a set of and 3500

[2:16:32] Because it's 15, but 35, we go 5, 1,000

[2:16:37] 1500, but 35. Yeah, so I'm just trying to I'm just trying to do it all the way in half

[2:16:42] So 1500 in a thousand dollars from up that way

[2:16:46] But we just get rid of the extra money in just 2 to 1,500. Okay, yeah, let me let me say something here. Let me say something

[2:16:52] Yeah, we're spending our time looking at, yes, five thousand hold on, five thousand

[2:16:57] he's five thousand there, where is the big issue, the elephant, nobody wants to talk

[2:17:02] about those things there. I mean, this is, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I want

[2:17:07] to make sure, I want to make sure, I want to make sure, I want to make sure, I want

[2:17:10] to understand what's going on here, we're talking about cuts, we're talking about big projects

[2:17:15] there. Nobody's looking at those, there's really make a difference. After we've done

[2:17:21] tonight, cutting 5,010,000, we're still going to be in the worst, the same position, we never

[2:17:28] moved, we never moved the needle at all. So listen, listen, I want you to understand,

[2:17:34] I'm all for, if we want, if it's one of, we want to put our direction, we can, we're there,

[2:17:41] but we still miss the boat. We're talking about millions of dollars that need to cut to be cut.

[2:17:47] What is 10,000, 50,000 cities that we're going to do?

[2:17:50] Nothing.

[2:17:50] It's not going to do anything there, but let's be real.

[2:17:53] And this is why, this is why, this is why.

[2:17:56] I had proposed that we had a citizen budget review committee,

[2:18:06] to have all the citizens here in the city, to sit on the committee,

[2:18:10] to say exactly like a pizza where you want your average tax

[2:18:15] to spend and we didn't have that. We still have not achieved that and I'm going to

[2:18:19] believe in the commission for not doing their job and administration also

[2:18:23] staff because it was the citizen would be behind the wheel say for the whole

[2:18:29] year where and where you need to cut and remove it. We wouldn't been sitting here

[2:18:33] discussing 5,000 things and 1,000. We would have been really be where we need to be

[2:18:38] and we still can do it. But this is what I want to say. Let's be serious about it.

[2:18:42] We're just cutting for cutting or just cutting responsibly where we need to make some adjustment

[2:18:48] That's all I'm gonna say I'm not gonna go any further than that. We have enough time to do it. Let's go ahead

[2:18:53] Yes, I only made suggestion because I believe that we start with cutting the rest with follow. I understand

[2:18:59] I understand but I just said I

[2:19:02] Please please, okay

[2:19:04] I'm gonna have to set some order. I'm a good as please

[2:19:08] We do not keep on applause at this point. Otherwise we have to do it for everything

[2:19:12] This is a we see thing business series, that's all it is, okay? I appreciate that. So I'm I'm just I'm not against I'm not against it. That's good.

[2:19:22] I just want to make sure we really see that that's what the job is for the city is there. To do job proposed this cuts different we can still do it. But let's make sure we cut a big chunk of the money that we need to.

[2:19:35] and everywhere across the city, and then we'll accomplish something valuable.

[2:19:42] That's all I'm going to say.

[2:19:44] If it's when it comes to salary, I can't even work for free, that's not my issue.

[2:19:48] But let's address the big issues there.

[2:19:51] We have floating issues, we have things, we have big projects out there.

[2:19:55] Those are the things we need to touch of those.

[2:19:57] We have big salaries, we have our position, they can...

[2:20:00] This is, we have a project that could wait some, let's look at those also. Let's look at those.

[2:20:08] In reality, that's all. Okay, and that's fine. Yes, yes, you recognize, because we're wasting a lot of time on looking at that.

[2:20:16] That's why we have department just for that. You look at that.

[2:20:18] I want to say something about this savings, we're talking about $10,000. If we're going to cut whatever we had to cut on save some money.

[2:20:29] If we save $10,000, it's going to be $60 to sense their house.

[2:20:35] What are we going to do with the $60 to sense?

[2:20:39] Her house, nothing.

[2:20:41] I mean, really, it's not, I mean, I don't know what we're doing here.

[2:20:45] I mean, is that responsible like the mayor says?

[2:20:48] We've got to be responsible for them with money.

[2:20:51] I mean, if I say that I'm going to save $1,000 per home, it's okay.

[2:20:56] I like to, you know, the residents have money to pay the bills.

[2:21:02] I like that, but, you know, we got to be responsible with the money.

[2:21:07] Really, you know, because I hear this guy, he got to pay $100,000 more per his building.

[2:21:17] It is crazy.

[2:21:19] We got to, you know, to work, I mean, we're working for the residents really, and we got to do something about it.

[2:21:26] We got to work on that. We got to save money on taxes, somehow, somewhere. I don't know, I mean, I'm not, I don't know how to do that, those things, but, you know, we can, I mean, we can do something up here, against that, whoever is paying big money on taxes, but I don't know how to do that.

[2:21:49] We got to get help from cities stuff, really.

[2:21:55] To the chair.

[2:21:57] All right.

[2:21:58] To the chair.

[2:21:58] You can.

[2:21:59] OK, yes.

[2:22:00] You need a device.

[2:22:01] Hi, with you, Vice Mayor.

[2:22:03] However, when we're looking at cutting, we have to, I mean,

[2:22:06] this is the expertise of the city manager's deputy finance

[2:22:10] people.

[2:22:11] When we're cutting, we have to make sure that the residents don't

[2:22:15] We don't shortchange the residents for what needs to keep this city going, but I do agree that we have to look

[2:22:24] I mean we look at the panis we need to look at the pounds, so thank you so much

[2:22:28] We got 16

[2:22:29] Thanks for the chance

[2:22:30] I love you know

[2:22:32] Oh, 15

[2:22:32] Yes, you were a good next

[2:22:34] 10,000 miles and miles

[2:22:36] I think it's 16

[2:22:37] Over 60 cents

[2:22:38] Where?

[2:22:39] Home

[2:22:39] Which is nothing

[2:22:40] Okay, yeah you're a recognized

[2:22:42] Thank you so much Mayor

[2:22:44] Every

[2:22:50] penny does count and to hear this commission says we're looking at a little here and a little there.

[2:22:56] No, that adds up. That really does adds up. And we have to stop blaming or shipping the blame, right?

[2:23:04] Where we'll say things like, you know, we're blaming the commission and we're blaming the staff.

[2:23:08] The staff does their job and the commission also did their job. But what I've found out over, you know, the two terms that I've been here

[2:23:17] is a lot of my residents are very spectacle, I'm sorry,

[2:23:25] what I just say all. Thank you.

[2:23:28] On doing anything here because when they come here and they speak their mind,

[2:23:35] they are afraid to join anything that we're doing because they feel like this commission tends to

[2:23:39] them, right? And this is not hearsay. This is the type of emails and messages I get in my inboxes

[2:23:50] from residents that are watching our live sessions here. Okay? And so as a leader we take accountability

[2:24:01] and the truth is this commission have spontaneously out of the blue, we put events together,

[2:24:10] we've done certain things, right, and that is cost us, and we have to take responsibility

[2:24:16] on that, blaming anyone, but I'm saying we must take responsibility, and I know the previous

[2:24:22] commission, a lot of things that we're dealing with now is because the previous commission

[2:24:26] didn't make certain changes, but now that we're here and we're making a change, I would

[2:24:31] to see, right, leadership, stop blaming the ship or stop, stop shifting the blame and take

[2:24:39] responsibility. Thank you so much.

[2:24:43] All right, but I'm commissioning you made, it was a

[2:24:56] The idea is that we don't have a resolution or anything like that.

[2:25:00] I believe a directive regarding what can be reduced. If you have a consensus, you could provide that directive to the city manager. As there will be adjustments made, they are going to go through it. They are going to make adjustments in light of the 7.4 military. But while they are doing that, they should consider these specific things that you guys are bringing up. So, the directive from the commission, there was.

[2:25:30] The initial rule is how to directive about

[2:25:34] We wanted to try to see if you could get consensus on the discretionary fund.

[2:25:41] Those are two different ones, so let's just keep them separate.

[2:25:45] In case everybody doesn't agree.

[2:25:47] So, direction on the, on the,

[2:25:52] It's not the travel on the discretionary fund.

[2:25:56] And what is this number that you wanted to propose and to say it?

[2:26:01] Should we do it next proposal?

[2:26:04] Next I get what Mike and kind of, how are you doing now?

[2:26:07] I said 20, cutting half.

[2:26:08] So it was 5,000, 20,500.

[2:26:12] Let's just suggest any extra details.

[2:26:16] Sorry, is this for which item?

[2:26:19] That was just a discretionary in general.

[2:26:23] I didn't get a consensus.

[2:26:23] I've just, no.

[2:26:25] Yes, it's a suggestion.

[2:26:28] So we come back.

[2:26:31] So is there something that can be completed tonight?

[2:26:36] Oh, no.

[2:26:36] Because we can always come being back.

[2:26:40] We can bring it back.

[2:26:41] We can bring it back.

[2:26:41] The commission.

[2:26:41] I'm pretty sure we're in the original.

[2:26:43] And as far as traveling, I mean, I'll be a 100% agree with that.

[2:26:48] Except.

[2:26:50] Except.

[2:26:51] Those who do not travel.

[2:26:51] So that's why we look at what those who travel for purpose to find resources for the city.

[2:26:57] I don't see any reason why I should prevent from going there from conference and training.

[2:27:03] Find resources for the city.

[2:27:04] It could be in an individual.

[2:27:06] Those who do not travel at all, that's fine.

[2:27:08] That's perfect.

[2:27:09] Remove it there.

[2:27:10] Step by step.

[2:27:11] And through the chair mayor.

[2:27:12] Yes, your work.

[2:27:13] So city attorney.

[2:27:16] Does that also follow the recommendations for the events as well?

[2:27:18] So we'll talk about that next time.

[2:27:20] You can talk about all of it next time if you could look at it more closely and see what events you want.

[2:27:27] But right now the events are not in the budget.

[2:27:30] Right.

[2:27:30] Should they come into the budget then you can give you a directive about that.

[2:27:36] Or you can exit it the remote.

[2:27:40] Right now there were two issues.

[2:27:43] It looks like the only directive that's on right now that's been established by the commission is the directive.

[2:27:49] to reduce salary, commission salaries are 5%. Other than that, you don't have a consensus, it seems to me on any one of them will do you.

[2:27:59] If you don't have a consensus, we'll just bring it back at the workshop.

[2:28:04] So now I'm going to read what the mayor had asked me to read, which is, for A?

[2:28:12] No, we didn't. No, we didn't.

[2:28:15] Okay.

[2:28:15] Okay, so three B's that voted on yet the city clerk points out

[2:28:19] Okay, could you make the motion clear for all to understand?

[2:28:23] The motion was made by commission. We can barely hear upset. The motion was made by commissioner Lewis records to approve

[2:28:30] Item three B with amendments and it was seconded by commissioner Martin

[2:28:37] Okay

[2:28:40] Did a roll call, please

[2:28:42] Commissioner Martin? Yes, Commissioner Lewis records. Yes

[2:28:46] by snare boosted Montage?

[2:28:48] Commissioner Lewis?

[2:28:50] Mayor, fortunately.

[2:28:51] Yes.

[2:28:51] It's 7.30.

[2:28:53] Madam Attorney, you have to floor, please.

[2:29:03] Madam Attorney.

[2:29:06] I just wanted out to the city clerk that it was approved.

[2:29:11] Not with amendments because we don't have specific amendments.

[2:29:14] But it was approved with the directive that, on second reading,

[2:29:19] it'd be brought back revised to conform to the military.

[2:29:24] Okay. Item 4A. A resolution of the City Commission of the City of North Florida deal

[2:29:31] Florida relating to the provision of fire rescue services, facilities and programs in the city

[2:29:36] of North Florida deal Florida and posing fire assessments against the SES property located

[2:29:41] within the City of North Florida deal for the fiscal year of the beginning of October 1226.

[2:29:47] Approving the rate of assessment, approving the assessment role, providing for conflicts, providing

[2:29:53] visibility and providing point effect to date.

[2:29:58] Ready?

[2:29:59] Let's see them in.

[2:30:00] As you're going to do the presentation.

[2:30:02] Mr. Mayor, on budget manager, we'll walk you through the fire assessment numbers and then fire

[2:30:08] rescue will give a brief presentation as well.

[2:30:10] Thank you.

[2:30:11] Go ahead, Madam.

[2:30:35] All right.

[2:30:37] Regarding the fire proposed budget for fiscal year 27.

[2:30:42] The budget itself is a 15 million 565391.

[2:30:50] thousand dollars budget. Essentially, the budget is balanced through the approval, if that is

[2:30:59] done tonight, of a assessment revenues to the single family home, and of $650, or the

[2:31:09] multi-family to $976. So that initially would generate revenues if approved at 12,510,665.

[2:31:20] In addition to that, there's other revenues that's proposed in this budget, which totals 1,892,513.

[2:31:32] So essentially there was a question that was brought up by one of the residents in regards to what was that transfer from the general fund.

[2:31:40] So here it is shown that the general fund will supplement the fire fund by that 1.162196.

[2:31:50] So we actually did round it to 1.2 in that slide.

[2:31:54] But then this is the amount of money that the general fund would transfer from the general fund to the fire fund in order to achieve a balanced budget.

[2:32:04] So when you look at the budget itself, and then the revenues total, you'll see that the revenues there is at 15 million 565391.

[2:32:15] So that's how we were able to achieve a balanced budget based on the proposed expenditures in the budget.

[2:32:22] And if the assessment at 65976 is passed,

[2:32:30] I'm just going to skip to the back of second.

[2:32:41] Actually, no, I would just pass this on to the chief, and I'm sorry, that slide is not there.

[2:32:56] You need to be mayor, commissioners, city manager.

[2:33:00] You're doing?

[2:33:02] Talk about the raise of the assessment.

[2:33:05] The assessment has been increased since 2021.

[2:33:09] It's originally 278, and we're trying to increase it up to 650, and I'll break it down.

[2:33:16] The cost has stayed the same for the residents since 2021, but the cost, training, and protection,

[2:33:24] all of the equipment is a 24-7 operation.

[2:33:28] We run 24-7, non-stop.

[2:33:31] The proposal will help recover the fire protection cost to the assessments rather than the city revenue.

[2:33:37] So the money instead of coming from the tax is going to be in the assessment.

[2:33:42] And we're not gaining more money with the taxes,

[2:33:44] we're just going to supplement it through the assessment.

[2:33:48] Comparison to other cities, like the Water Hill,

[2:33:51] Tamerack, Waterdale Lakes.

[2:33:53] On the slide, you see what it covers.

[2:33:57] And our proposal is going to cover 92, almost 93%

[2:34:03] for paying the fire rescue of the 15 million.

[2:34:10] So a lower assessment doesn't mean a lower cost

[2:34:13] the fire department. And also our city is the most responsible and one of the cheapest cities

[2:34:19] compared to other counties out, rather other fire departments in Brewer County.

[2:34:25] The level of service that we deliver, we average about 5,082 calls from October 25 to August

[2:34:33] 2026. Our average response time from dispatch to the door is 5 minutes 37 seconds. We run

[2:34:40] about 338 mutual aid responses throughout our neighboring cities,

[2:34:45] Tamarate, Margate, Laudahil, and our training.

[2:34:48] We do about 11,500 hours of training and pre-fire planning

[2:34:52] for the city.

[2:34:54] Our ISO class, one of our biggest accomplishments,

[2:34:59] were our ISO class of...

[2:35:00] There's only, there's only other 500 other fire departments nationwide that have achieved that ISO1 class. We also have an AHA GOAT standard in EMS. And we also also have a state-of-the-art fire training facility. And we invested about 2 million a lot of it from ARPA funds.

[2:35:25] fiscal responsibility for fiscal year 2027, the assessment, I think is right even said, but I'll say it again, it's 12 million, 510,000 from EMS and other revenues, we got about 1.8 and the general fund transfer, which I think that was asked before.

[2:35:45] So with the assessment, all we would need is 1.162 of the general fund to balance our, our, our, our 2027

[2:35:55] to balance the budget.

[2:35:58] And again, lowest cost per station,

[2:36:01] it's about 7.7 million to run each,

[2:36:04] we have two stations to run both stations,

[2:36:07] which is, like I said, a lot less expensive

[2:36:09] than other departments in Brewer County.

[2:36:13] The bottom line at all this is the increase

[2:36:15] will be an increase of 372 per year,

[2:36:19] 31 dollars a month, or you can say a dollar per day.

[2:36:22] I know it's going to affect the citizens, but we needed to increase this for years now, and this is where we're at right now with the fire assessment.

[2:36:36] We also got to understand that we've saved the taxpayers a lot of money when it comes to ARPA.

[2:36:41] We use ARPA funds to make our bunker gear storage room at Station 44, which is pushes the cancer initiative for the bunker gear and to keep the firefighters safe.

[2:36:55] We've funded mostly for a ladder truck through the ARPA funds, a fire engine we got through ARPA funds and a rescue unit.

[2:37:05] So, we got approximately 3.17 million dollars in ARPA funds that the taxpayers did not have to pay.

[2:37:16] And our capital improvements for fiscal year 2027.

[2:37:21] We still have to pay remaining balance of 487,000 for a ladder truck.

[2:37:27] And we're also getting another new rescue unit, which is approximately 472,000.

[2:37:32] So our projected capital projects for this for fiscal year 2027 will be $1.2 million.

[2:37:40] Is

[2:37:43] that going to prove that any questions, please?

[2:37:46] Okay.

[2:37:48] This one I'd like to hear from the public we're going to fire a special assessment at this point right now.

[2:38:03] You can call it first, please.

[2:38:06] I'll just put a limit to, let's limit it to two minutes, please, just to think what you had is going to be four or the answer at this point.

[2:38:15] Even everyone, my name is Nadine Chin Charles, and I've been a resident in Northwaterdale since 2011 when I purchased my home.

[2:38:25] I know the fire chief just talked about the increase which was a headache for me when I see my proposed bill from 278 to 650.

[2:38:33] It doesn't sound like much to the fire chief, but it is a lot to residents.

[2:38:39] I think what you guys are forgetting is that these same residents that you're looking at

[2:38:44] right now, put you guys in this position.

[2:38:47] And when you guys get into this position, you guys forget about the residents that put you

[2:38:53] guys there.

[2:38:54] I have not seen at one point on my bill that the city of Northland is there, stands on my

[2:39:00] Let's decrease something for the resonance.

[2:39:04] Every year, it's an increase, guys.

[2:39:07] The same water on my proposed build

[2:39:10] that you're increasing is in on my monthly build.

[2:39:14] The same water, the same kind, the same pride.

[2:39:17] You're increasing it on the proposed build here,

[2:39:19] but when I get my monthly build, it is also on there.

[2:39:23] So I'm paying here and I'm paying there.

[2:39:25] 15 million doesn't sound like a lot to the chief,

[2:39:28] because guess what? We just saved the residents from paying this. So 15 million is nothing

[2:39:34] right? I came to save $30,000 in savings. These increase are absolutely outrageous.

[2:39:43] Not to say we're not supposed to pay something to the city, of course. We live here.

[2:39:49] And Mayor, I have seen the good that you have been doing in North Latvia and I respect that.

[2:39:56] I appreciate you for that. I have seen changes.

[2:40:00] In the last two years, but at the same time, I work for the election office. I don't get a 10% increase.

[2:40:11] One to three percent every year, and that is nothing, absolutely nothing. When they say we get an increase, I do not look at my paycheck.

[2:40:19] Because it doesn't make a difference to me, I don't see the difference.

[2:40:23] All I'm asking is that you guys, please think about these increase.

[2:40:28] Think about the resident.

[2:40:29] That's work.

[2:40:30] One job and you guys are sending them to go and work.

[2:40:32] Two jobs.

[2:40:33] So they can get these high increase.

[2:40:34] Your time is up.

[2:40:35] Thank you.

[2:40:36] Thank you.

[2:40:41] Next person please.

[2:40:44] Okay.

[2:40:44] Bill Lester.

[2:40:46] So I'm actually going to do something that you guys.

[2:40:49] I don't want you all to have heart attacks.

[2:40:51] But one thing I want to do too, because I taught the cheese sweet.

[2:40:54] I've listened to these guys, I've looked at this stuff.

[2:40:57] One thing I did do is look at my insurance bill.

[2:41:01] Because of our rating of our Far Department here,

[2:41:03] and all the stuff we have, and there's response time

[2:41:05] like they talked about, I save $1,000 a year

[2:41:11] on my home insurance because of our Far Reading.

[2:41:15] Now, it's also because I live down the street on Kimberly.

[2:41:17] I'm close to different things, but it isn't the thing about now.

[2:41:21] It doesn't like a lot, but like they said,

[2:41:23] It's been five years since we've, they were able to change that again and they can't do it for

[2:41:27] next five years again so it does seem high and we can always ask them to see what they can

[2:41:33] cut a little bit more.

[2:41:34] We're going to ask Mike to cut everything else but it is something to think about is that

[2:41:39] we do have a top notch part of Harvard and I'd like to stay that way because he's my

[2:41:43] cost down too.

[2:41:44] Thank you.

[2:41:49] Thank you.

[2:41:50] Michelle calendar again. I just have a comment. I'm not quite sure my insurance doesn't go down because of the fire

[2:41:57] So I'm not seeing that on mine, but not unless I just want to know if there's a middle ground between the six from 278 to 650

[2:42:05] There's nothing else proposed to say, okay, we can do this this or this where you came with your trim rate

[2:42:11] We could do one of the other. There was no middle ground in between this and I said it at the last meeting when we had that

[2:42:17] that you went from 2.78 to 6.50 boom, you put it in 3.72, 31.31 dollars and a dollar, but no one

[2:42:28] who put it in the picture of how much percentage that is. That's 133%. So you normalize the

[2:42:34] percentages on everything else we say, 10%, 5%. But this is 133 percentage increase. So that's

[2:42:42] what I want to say.

[2:42:43] Thank you.

[2:42:44] Thank you.

[2:42:45] The next question, please.

[2:42:53] Good evening Mr. Mayor and the commissioners.

[2:42:55] My name is Eric Elhengs.

[2:42:58] I'm the developer in the crossings at North Laudadale.

[2:43:01] I built that project and also a former city commissioner in Laudadale, lakes for 14 years.

[2:43:07] So I'd note a position that each of you are in.

[2:43:11] And I come up to speak about the fire, the fire assessment, and the young lady was correct.

[2:43:19] It's 130% increase in one year, one of the challenges that we've always faced as elected officials

[2:43:26] in terms of how to deal with always equated to our job and responsibility as we have a flower pot.

[2:43:38] And in that flower pot is filled with water, so it's limited resources.

[2:43:43] And that flourified has to sprinkle everything with all the different holes coming out.

[2:43:49] The fire rescue assessment, you're right, it has been raised since 2021, however, that's

[2:43:54] a policy decision by the commission, whether those who were here before or not.

[2:43:59] That didn't bear on the residents, it was the commission who made those decisions based on what was

[2:44:05] presented.

[2:44:07] The study that was done, and we used to do these studies all the time, because the state

[2:44:10] requires that in order to raise the fee.

[2:44:13] But what the state does not require when you get the study

[2:44:16] is that that entire fee being assessed in one year.

[2:44:21] It's a study document.

[2:44:23] And so you can look at that document

[2:44:25] and you can work with staff, the fire chief, or whoever,

[2:44:29] and come up with a plan to get to that point.

[2:44:32] You don't have to get there in one year.

[2:44:34] You don't have to get 100 to 30% in one year.

[2:44:37] And that's what I believe the residents are talking about.

[2:44:40] That increase faced with what we're looking at with amendment 3, you're really asking people to vote for amendment 3.

[2:44:47] Because when you assess 130% of a fee, the voters are going to vote for it.

[2:44:52] I tell you what, citizens, amendment 3 is bad for all cities, right?

[2:44:57] Because you're going to have to make it up, it's going to pass on.

[2:45:00] On my time, I'll sit down. I'll just say, please look at that. That's the biggest increase. It's a study. Take the time. Sit down with staff. And one last thing is the land of truck. I love the fire department. And Lord of the Lakes, we talked about the land of truck all the time. Every city that touches North Lauderdale in their wells has a land of truck. We have mutual aid. Buildings are not that high. We got the

[2:45:29] It's not what you're talking about, but things for the service also, I appreciate it.

[2:45:37] Okay, thank you. Next person, please?

[2:45:46] Alphabet 80207. I'd like to have a question to the city manager regarding one of the budget

[2:45:53] line items.

[2:45:54] If I'm allowed to?

[2:45:55] Yes, you can.

[2:45:57] There is a charge in the fund.

[2:46:05] Now this year it's increasing from $2,230,865 dollars, but such a, I'm sorry, high increase, shouldn't it be budgeted to really specify what the $128,000 increase is for, instead of just dump in it into a miscellaneous account?

[2:46:28] Let

[2:46:30] me go through the budget and find out, Mr. Mayor, may take a minute.

[2:46:34] I'll take a minute.

[2:46:35] I'll just want to take the fire department.

[2:46:39] I know they're very crucial.

[2:46:40] They provide excellent service to us.

[2:46:42] Thank you very much for that.

[2:46:43] Nelson, Bill, could you answer that?

[2:46:46] Do you know off the top of your hand?

[2:46:53] If not, what we're doing that we could listen to the next speaker, please?

[2:47:03] Good evening again, Mayor.

[2:47:06] Commissioners.

[2:47:07] My comments are limiting to the proposed fire rescue, not at the Laura Assessment.

[2:47:13] My annual fire rescue assessment is increased from 278 to 650, according to my calculation

[2:47:20] that's an increase of 372 in one year, that's 134 percent for me.

[2:47:27] I recognize that fire rescue is an essential public service as a former deputy sheriff myself

[2:47:33] and also a former emergency dispatcher for BSO, I understand the importance of

[2:47:39] probably staffing equipment, equipment and funding emergency responders.

[2:47:44] My objection is not to support fire rescue.

[2:47:49] My objection is to imposing such a large increase all at once without adequately demonstrating

[2:47:55] why this specific amount is necessary and whether less burdened some alternatives could be considered.

[2:48:03] Unlike an advalorant tax, this assessment is a fixed charge.

[2:48:08] It does not adjust as according to a homeowner's property value or ability to pay.

[2:48:14] As senior living on approximately 1,900 per month can be charged, can be charged the same

[2:48:19] amount as someone with substantially greater financial resources.

[2:48:24] That makes this increase especially difficult for seniors on a lower income homeowner.

[2:48:31] Before approving the 650 assessment, please clearly explain how the amount was calculated what portion

[2:48:37] represents the actual cost of providing far rescue services to residential properties,

[2:48:43] and whether every dollar collected must be used exclusively for that service.

[2:48:48] I asked the Commission to consider reducing the assessment fee, maybe facing the increase

[2:48:52] over several years, using available reserves for part of the immediate cost, identifying savings

[2:48:59] elsewhere in the budget and establishing lawful hardship assistance for the low-income seniors

[2:49:06] and disabled homeowners. Essential services must be funded, but they must also be funded fairly.

[2:49:13] Increasing one's household fire rescue assessment by 134% is in a single year is not reasonable

[2:49:20] or an affordable solution. I respectfully ask you to reject the proposed 650 and adopt a

[2:49:28] gradual, equitable assessment. Thank you so much. Thank you next person.

[2:49:39] Okay, I'm back.

[2:49:41] You're receiving the honor of the building at 840, Southwest 81st Avenue. It's an office building.

[2:49:48] The presentation did not include how is this non-advolama assessment goals against commercial properties.

[2:49:54] in my specific situation,

[2:49:59] the

[2:50:00] 1,735,000 dollars, which is an arranged figure to begin with, 2,75,000 dollars. For get percentage, $40,000

[2:50:11] more, just on non-advolverance tax on my property. This figure will end up $120,000 total taxes.

[2:50:21] So the not the fire rescue assessment, which is the big chunk of that figure, is proposed to go up from 28,000 to 65,000 dollars.

[2:50:31] Again, I'll repeat the numbers.

[2:50:33] 28,000 dollars to 65,000 dollars in a building, and there is even here, one of the tenants seats here behind me.

[2:50:41] Nobody pays me back there, triple net. We collect gross rent when we were able to collect and we pay all the expenses.

[2:50:51] no idea how it happened. I did a quick calculation, a quick research, not quick actually. I spent

[2:50:58] time on some research. I'm going to pay $1.2 per square foot. My building is $55,000 square foot

[2:51:05] and the fire rescue assessment will be $65,000. This is $1.2 to $0.00 a square foot. Our neighboring

[2:51:14] city market is at 0.38. Our neighboring city lot of the lakes is at 0.41. The city of

[2:51:23] Tamarak has a flat figure of no more than $30,000, which in my case would have been 50 cents.

[2:51:30] I went further and I did some research, who has the high fire rescue assessment more than what

[2:51:37] not lot of the day is trying to collect. I found one city. Very similar to not lot of the one city

[2:51:44] that collects slightly more. It's the city of Western. Guys, we are not the city of Western,

[2:51:51] okay? No disrespect, but we are not there. And I only did research on the fire rescue,

[2:51:57] not the total. To make a long story short, if I am up paying those taxes or being the

[2:52:03] first on those taxes, this would be the highest tax bracket in Broward County that somebody is

[2:52:11] This would be again the highest tax bracket, more or less, 4% of the assessed value would go into taxes.

[2:52:22] This is outrageous. It doesn't exist. It doesn't exist.

[2:52:25] And again, the lady before me said, the non-advalorant has nothing to do with the assessed value.

[2:52:31] Yes, every year we go to Brown County and we fight the assessed values.

[2:52:34] At times we are successful at times we are not here. There is nobody to fight, there is nobody to fight.

[2:52:40] You cannot come and say my building is vacant. Okay, it is vacant. You still need to pay for your fire services. Why? Who knows why?

[2:52:47] So I will appreciate if the chief can later explain how did they come up with this calculation for commercial properties.

[2:52:55] Thank you very much, guys.

[2:52:56] All right. Thank you.

[2:52:58] It is. It is. No,

[2:53:04] no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[2:53:04] We appreciate that. It is 755. We have heard administration in our residents at this particular

[2:53:16] time in under the current circumstances.

[2:53:25] I do not support increasing the fire special assessment.

[2:53:29] I support maintaining the existing assessment rate and direct admissance to identify the appropriate

[2:53:40] funding adjustment necessary to maintain essential fire risked services.

[2:53:48] With that, Madam Attorney, if you could provide an appropriate motion necessary to maintain

[2:53:56] The current rate.

[2:54:02] Oh, I could just do so if someone is so moved someone's can just second it for it this one

[2:54:08] Just for the record

[2:54:09] Yeah, I understand, but we don't want we just keep your plot please everybody because we don't want it later on

[2:54:15] You know, thank you appreciate that

[2:54:19] If not would you have someone says so much so you just want to the motions to keep the maintain everything that we're right the way it is at the time

[2:54:27] You're you're moving to a man the fires that rate

[2:54:32] That is providing, that is provided in

[2:54:38] the resolution and you wanted to be maintained that the previous year is right.

[2:54:44] That's the motion.

[2:54:44] The motion is to keep the assessment.

[2:54:47] The word is, I mean, so find a adjustment necessary to maintain the essential fire risk.

[2:54:54] We mentioned that before earlier, we got to look at other ways.

[2:54:59] My job is...

[2:55:01] We're going to go in the businesses of the resident, but are there specialists? Are there job there to find other ways to do? We've got to find it somehow.

[2:55:11] We're going to find it somehow because we heard it over and over and over and over and over and we're mentioning that.

[2:55:19] The worst thing I'd like to do is resident, leave, no flower, to live better, because we're chasing them out of different things.

[2:55:28] Whatever wasn't done nine years ago, seven years ago, that's fine.

[2:55:31] But this is time that we are higher,

[2:55:34] or we have people to look at those things.

[2:55:36] If we could do it here, the Commission could find it.

[2:55:39] We would have done it.

[2:55:40] This is not our job.

[2:55:40] Our job is to listen to the resident find a ways.

[2:55:44] And as I mentioned that,

[2:55:46] had the proposed visit somewhere in between

[2:55:49] we discussed this week earlier.

[2:55:52] Instead of going just for 36% in somewhere,

[2:55:56] If it would be gradually 5 or 10 or somewhere people can live with someone, but at this point the waste present there

[2:56:03] I say I will I cannot support it and that's we're going to go to vote to see where everybody set with that one at this point

[2:56:11] So it's the

[2:56:12] The solution was approving the assessment role

[2:56:15] That part of it you would you would maintain maintain it, but you're you're not approving those

[2:56:21] It's great

[2:56:22] You wanted to remain as it was in the

[2:56:24] I mean, it's what? Yes. And still a lot of other and still find a adjustment necessary to still maintain the essential

[2:56:32] fire risk for services. All right.

[2:56:36] Okay. Was there a second? It's been moved. We need a second or no. Second. Second, Madam Clerk, the roll call, please.

[2:56:45] Commissioner Martin. Through the chair mayor before we take the roll call, is there will we be able to have comments?

[2:56:53] Do they want comments? Well, I mean, I will you make.

[2:56:56] We could go straight to motion, make a motion, that's fine.

[2:56:59] I mean, if you make comments there, but it's already moved.

[2:57:01] Yes, because the reason being is because I would love to hear

[2:57:03] from staff was the consequences.

[2:57:05] I know I have talked to staff several times, right?

[2:57:10] And I get it, you know, it's one of those years.

[2:57:14] However, this is very important.

[2:57:17] And so can you please, or so you can just kind of explain to us

[2:57:21] if that's okay with the mayor.

[2:57:24] So the chair?

[2:57:29] How does it work?

[2:57:33] Well, there was a motion in a second and usually after the motion in a second there's a discussion.

[2:57:39] There's no discussion after that.

[2:57:41] There is.

[2:57:42] There is.

[2:57:43] There is.

[2:57:44] There is.

[2:57:47] because that was the first, well, we didn't have a motion for discussion, but that's fine.

[2:57:54] We didn't have that.

[2:57:54] We just straight to make a motion, which is, which is, yes, so you didn't make a motion

[2:58:00] for discussion.

[2:58:01] You made a motion to approve.

[2:58:02] That's all.

[2:58:04] Well, is there any way that we can discuss this?

[2:58:06] Because I think the residents need to know the consequences of what's not raising.

[2:58:11] I mean, it doesn't have to be that amount, but we need to do something, like, just to say.

[2:58:22] Okay, I'm going to allow that to happen, but the point is the motion is that while we're still

[2:58:28] approve it, but still, the admissions will identify appropriate funding necessary, just

[2:58:37] putting them on just the necessary to make any sense of consequences or not, they're still

[2:58:42] going to receive the service.

[2:58:44] The thing is the question was how far deep in the reserve you want or you don't want to go to

[2:58:51] if you can find alternatives because now we're looking at cutting cutting but have we explore other

[2:58:57] other ways to find so the residents don't have to go deep regardless because even if you do not

[2:59:03] increase it this year, eventually it's going to come up and we have three budgets over that over explain

[2:59:09] I just want to move the item there because at this point explain in the what it is it doesn't change anything

[2:59:15] No matter as far as I'm seeing it and what residence is here. Oh wait. That's what I'm saying

[2:59:20] Okay, we can go around the circle of all but the idea is and as I remember we could have been in this long time the idea is

[2:59:28] Resonant don't want they cannot afford it and they don't want it because I mean right we're not that's all the point

[2:59:35] Give me friends. Okay, please you. I'm gonna have a great

[2:59:39] You can spend a whole time to explain the consequences, but the idea is what I would do

[2:59:44] about it with the resident, because I don't want to hear any resident move to Morsi,

[2:59:48] I'm selling my house because we're just going to run around the subject.

[2:59:53] That's simple as that.

[2:59:54] So go ahead.

[2:59:54] So can I please finish me or is that okay?

[2:59:56] Yes, go ahead.

[2:59:57] Go ahead.

[2:59:58] Thank you so much.

[3:00:00] Okay, so we need to understand this. We are an untitled city, okay, which means we, the census, I think

[3:00:10] what is under what 40, 40 something that how many people is less than $50,000. So therefore, we're not

[3:00:20] privy to certain things and I totally get it. I'm so for, you know, the cuts, so for for keeping certain

[3:00:27] things at certain rates and et cetera, but we need to explain just because this is an

[3:00:34] election year. We have to understand the repercussions, right? The long-term repercussions

[3:00:39] of what happened, the problem was and has been, is because we have not raised these rates

[3:00:45] for all these numbers of years and now we're being hit and this is the recommendation from staff.

[3:00:51] Okay, so I want to hear from staff, I want to educate, okay, our residents with happening here

[3:00:56] Because we might not raise it today, okay, but eventually we're going to have to and so we really need to you know

[3:01:03] Just just kind of explain and so I'm okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me say something there. Hold on

[3:01:09] it is unfair

[3:01:12] to take our time

[3:01:14] over a month

[3:01:16] that we repurposed you have two budgets

[3:01:20] town hall meetings

[3:01:22] When it happened here, right here with many residents show up here and others, the two days later, at the Oak Brook.

[3:01:31] How many commissioners attended the town hall meetings?

[3:01:36] That was to educate the residents.

[3:01:39] None of them, I mean, how many of them were there?

[3:01:42] And that was the time, perfect time to do it.

[3:01:45] Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[3:01:47] We're using even right now, we're using the taxpayers of money right now.

[3:01:50] I want to say that it was a time, perfect time, it was announced, sunshine,

[3:01:56] the commissioners could have been here, it was here, there was, we don't have the number,

[3:02:01] they were full, packed, the first one, the second one was the, it was the same purpose,

[3:02:06] whereas the departments presented the assessment, the explain, what's going to happen there,

[3:02:12] CD manager explained, the consequence, all that, it was done, they explained it to those people

[3:02:17] up into ask question. So this is not fair at this point again to keep going the same thing

[3:02:25] there. We're already the meeting for tonight is to approve or disapprove or confine

[3:02:30] the middle. That's what I'm saying. Okay. So if I don't, if I can mention, if I don't show

[3:02:37] up and the most reasons we're here already, they understand it, it's not fair that we wish

[3:02:44] That's what I'm saying.

[3:02:45] Through the chair mayor.

[3:02:46] This is not a waste of time.

[3:02:48] Education is never a waste of time.

[3:02:49] I understand.

[3:02:50] No, no, no.

[3:02:51] Mayer please let me.

[3:02:52] You do this.

[3:02:53] When it's time.

[3:02:55] Mayer.

[3:02:55] At this point.

[3:02:56] Mayer.

[3:02:57] You continue to do this, right?

[3:03:00] It's our responsibility.

[3:03:01] Whether they're there or not.

[3:03:03] Because there's there's people here.

[3:03:04] Residents that are here.

[3:03:05] That do not understand this.

[3:03:08] So I am being responsible by asking hearts that you can come up.

[3:03:12] Just explain a little bit.

[3:03:13] If we choose to keep the assessments as is, we will keep it as is.

[3:03:17] However, we need to just, you know, just give them a little snippet of what's going on

[3:03:22] and what are the consequences.

[3:03:24] That's all.

[3:03:24] Because as of November 3rd, if that property tax does get approved, right, a lot changes

[3:03:31] and we need to understand.

[3:03:33] And so we don't have in the future, people are coming to city hall and saying, why were

[3:03:40] we educated?

[3:03:40] Why was in the set to us?

[3:03:41] at least for those that are watching and those that did not attend, does that meeting, does

[3:03:48] that tell meeting?

[3:03:50] They can't get, just educate, we just being educated.

[3:03:52] That's in there.

[3:03:53] That's it.

[3:03:54] Your point is well-taking if we can't hire many people right here and that means we have another

[3:04:01] 40s, some thousand and they're still not probably not there.

[3:04:05] So the point is, we made this adjustment here.

[3:04:08] Chief, they all explain what it is and we spent all I'm saying is let's move on. It's eight or six right now

[3:04:16] We already decide that we're going to maintain it and they're at staff has our other works to do let's move on if you want to take to people's time

[3:04:24] I'm good

[3:04:26] Okay, let's go. Okay, let's go for education. Let's go for education. Okay. Let's move. Let's move. Let's move. Thank you

[3:04:34] All right education. Let's go

[3:04:37] okay and regards to how that will impact the budget itself so this is not the slide but I'm

[3:04:45] just going to speak off from what I have here is the data so the budget being 15 million five

[3:04:50] six five three nine one if we keep the assessment at the current rate we will be generating sorry

[3:04:59] I'm a proxist.

[3:05:00] Assembly 6,632,811 in the assessment revenues. And what that would mean is that there would be a short fall in the budget or a gap of $7.1 million.

[3:05:15] However, the general fund itself will still right now will have that 1.162196.

[3:05:23] That is already factored into the budget, but in order to meet the gap between that 7.1 million and the 1.162,

[3:05:32] that's already in the general fund.

[3:05:34] The general fund would have to supplement the fire fund by almost $6 million.

[3:05:39] So a little over $5.9 million in order to keep the proposed budget as what it is.

[3:05:46] Thank you.

[3:05:47] That will be on the general fund side of it.

[3:05:50] So as we're hearing the residents, a lot of them didn't know that.

[3:05:52] So this is why I said education is so important because there's many people that weren't here.

[3:05:57] So to hear that is very important to hear.

[3:05:59] Thank you so much.

[3:06:01] All right.

[3:06:01] Thank you.

[3:06:02] Thank you.

[3:06:03] We're looking at what the reverence we are January does true.

[3:06:07] But regardless, I have to look at how much is going to cost my residence to provide

[3:06:14] services and who's the same residence again, we're going to ask to increase every else.

[3:06:21] So it's perfect to educate, but I'm just going to say, my job is to make sure that I look

[3:06:26] what I would keep the costs down for the residence, that's the only purpose I'm there in

[3:06:30] the Airbnb.

[3:06:31] I'm not saying I'm not against that, but that's also why we hire, we hire experts, people

[3:06:37] that they're job to look to find ways other way because because we are not in

[3:06:45] time in city means that we're two I'm going to take two neighbors that we have one

[3:06:50] is a 76,000 population they were in a 60,000 population there we only 45,000 we

[3:06:57] do not get the same federal fund they receive until we reach 50,000 then my

[3:07:04] We're going to lose we lost about 1.2 billion there for 10 years so it's just understanding the same reason

[3:07:11] There I don't know how many times we educate that's the one point but the point is what are we doing about it when they come for them to

[3:07:18] We're asking to pay pay pay and people going to have to leave no Florida deal to go to another city

[3:07:24] close to buy any word move away because

[3:07:28] We we we're not controlling exactly what it is whatever it needs to be done as we don't but there's been so many other ways to find it

[3:07:34] I'm going to keep it at this point.

[3:07:36] So, Madam Clark is being moved in second place.

[3:07:40] Do the local, everybody has one vote here.

[3:07:42] Thank you.

[3:07:47] It was moved in second.

[3:07:49] If you guys are listening to me, it's Commissioner Martin.

[3:07:54] Commissioner Louis Rekus.

[3:07:55] Yes.

[3:07:56] Vice Mayor Booster Monte.

[3:07:58] Yes.

[3:07:59] Commissioner Louis.

[3:08:00] I'll pull up a quick question.

[3:08:02] If we set three here, at the secondary,

[3:08:05] we won't be able to move it.

[3:08:06] We won't be doing anything.

[3:08:07] This is the final.

[3:08:13] The motion is to maintain the rate assessment the way it is or raise it to whatever it is.

[3:08:21] That's what it's about.

[3:08:25] And Mayor Board 1.

[3:08:27] Yes.

[3:08:30] Did you call Vice Mayor?

[3:08:32] Yes, I did.

[3:08:33] What did he say?

[3:08:34] He voted yes.

[3:08:35] He voted yes.

[3:08:36] Thank you.

[3:08:40] So motion pass.

[3:08:45] That takes us to the next item.

[3:08:48] Madam Attorney, please.

[3:08:48] For the.

[3:08:51] Yes.

[3:08:51] It's about the solid waste assessment.

[3:08:54] The agenda proposed the agenda proposed is 575 per residential unit.

[3:09:00] You go ahead.

[3:09:00] A resolution of the city commission of the city of North Florida.

[3:09:03] Deal Florida relating to the provision of residential solid waste collection services in the city of North Florida.

[3:09:09] a proving the assessment rate of $575 for residential solid waste collection services for the fiscal year beginning on October

[3:09:20] 1226.

[3:09:22] Imposing a residential.

[3:09:23] Hold on.

[3:09:23] Sorry.

[3:09:24] Could you get some order please?

[3:09:27] Imposing a residential solid waste collection assessment against the says property located within the city of Northwaterdale for the fiscal year

[3:09:35] beginning on October 1, 2026, providing facility, providing for conflicts and providing

[3:09:41] for an effective day.

[3:09:42] Hold on.

[3:09:43] Hold on.

[3:09:44] I'm going to ask one more time, please.

[3:09:46] Well, some respect for city attorney's reading it, please.

[3:09:54] No, no, no, I hear a lot, I don't know who he's saying to speak, but we are a lot of

[3:09:58] other people.

[3:10:00] We appreciate that. We appreciate that because those who have been listening at home watching their hearing, everything in a background. Thank you.

[3:10:09] Madam, I'm sorry about it. Go ahead. I've read it. I have read it. Okay.

[3:10:18] City Manager, who's going to present to you please?

[3:10:21] Budget manager Mr. Mayor will make this presentation.

[3:10:23] Thank you.

[3:10:28] All right.

[3:10:29] The proposed budget for the solid waste fund for 2027 is 4,576,800.

[3:10:39] How did we get to that balanced budget?

[3:10:42] So the assessment that's proposed here is at 575, which will generate 4,271,391.

[3:10:51] in revenues and then we have some other revenues that was, you know, generated, you know,

[3:10:58] that will be generated through other sources of almost 157,000 and then we are using from

[3:11:05] that fund itself, fund balance of 100 and almost 149,000 dollars. So that's how we were able

[3:11:14] to achieve the current balance budget of the 4.7,800 as proposed for the solid waste funds.

[3:11:25] Primarily what's in here is just the solid waste contract, and that has an increase,

[3:11:31] and that's what we actually budgeted for here, the contract in order to be able to cover

[3:11:37] the expenditures related to the contract for that fund.

[3:11:46] Okay, I'm going to take the same question concern Commission Martin has at this point to present the exactly.

[3:11:56] Are you there?

[3:11:59] Yes.

[3:12:01] You explain how you achieve that, but does that same show the reason for the proposing increase in the financial consequence of maintaining existing rate?

[3:12:12] Okay, just bear with me a moment.

[3:12:14] Let me get it.

[3:12:34] Okay.

[3:12:35] So, Chair, in regards to the current assessment of the 499, what we basically have budgeted

[3:12:47] here is just the CPI increase of the contract in order to be able to achieve the balance

[3:12:53] budget to pay for the contract that we have with the solid way.

[3:12:58] So that's that 4.4.5, 7,600.

[3:13:03] So in regards to that, if we were to keep the assessment at the same, we would generate less

[3:13:10] revenues, and we would be looking at approximately $3.7 million, so it was $3.6, 9, 4, 3, 6.

[3:13:19] And other assessments that would stay the same are the revenues rather would stay the same.

[3:13:23] So, it would mean that the fund would need to be supplemented by another $721,000 additional

[3:13:31] that the fund really does not have right now.

[3:13:34] So, we would need to close that gap of almost, you know, $500,000 in order to fund that

[3:13:41] if we were to keep the assessment at the current rate.

[3:13:47] Okay.

[3:13:48] Are you done?

[3:13:50] Yes, I am.

[3:13:50] Thank you. We will now hear from the public regarding this assessment, please.

[3:13:58] And we're trying to limit it at two minutes, please. Thank you.

[3:14:02] Good evening again. Commissioner Mayor, I recognize that drainage canal maintenance and flood control are essential.

[3:14:12] However, I have to consider my cost, my overhead.

[3:14:15] So, my annual assessment is in particular, you're speaking on the wrong one, we're speaking

[3:14:22] on the solid waste right now, yes.

[3:14:25] My annual assessment is increasing from 95 to 200 on that.

[3:14:31] This is solid waste, you're speaking on the solid waste, you're speaking on the solid

[3:14:35] Water control?

[3:14:36] No, no, no, solid waste, the solid waste.

[3:14:38] My apologies.

[3:14:39] Thank you.

[3:14:40] Okay, you're speaking on the storm water.

[3:14:42] That's the next slide.

[3:14:43] I'll come back.

[3:14:44] with you'd like me to do no no if you want to speak on the solid way solid way

[3:14:50] comments on the solid way straight now I'll have to come back to that next speaker

[3:14:56] please you need if you want to

[3:15:00] Would it be right here, please? Solid waste, solid waste.

[3:15:08] Hello, good morning. My name is Miranda Carmichael, I'm 2040, winner circle. The waste.

[3:15:15] The waste costs are something that impact my community substantially, because we are in an

[3:15:21] HOA and the city contract requires us to use waste management and gives us no option for

[3:15:28] other waste removable services. And we currently spend in my community as of fiscal year 2025,

[3:15:36] $210,000 a year for waste collection, which is about $70 per homeowner in my community per month.

[3:15:44] This is a contract that I would like to ask if there's any opportunity to renegotiate the

[3:15:52] increases. I know that waste management does negotiate increases even though they might be in the

[3:15:57] So that you can reduce the amounts because it is a very high cost to the people that are living in communities like mine.

[3:16:08] Thank you.

[3:16:09] Next speaker please.

[3:16:15] So I own more properties in South Florida in Broward and in Miami-Dade.

[3:16:22] So this property we are also bounded the same as the lady before we said.

[3:16:25] We are bounded by waste management and frankly they are killing us.

[3:16:29] In Miami did, unincoperated date, we also have waste management as a provider,

[3:16:36] but guess what, there we don't have to use them, I'm praying a fraction.

[3:16:39] I'm paying about 25% for more time paying in the building here.

[3:16:44] About this, the building is smaller, building is smaller, but the cost is a fraction.

[3:16:51] A fraction, waste management takes serious advantage of us.

[3:16:55] period. They have a contract with you and we must use them and it's beyond painful. That's all.

[3:17:04] All right, the next person please.

[3:17:08] Again, my name is Linda Ashby. I'm going to speak on the

[3:17:12] solid waste. For this particular item, my annual solid waste charge has increased from $4.99 to $5.75.

[3:17:20] This is an increase of $76, which is approximately 15% for me. I do recognize the garbage and

[3:17:26] cycling collections are necessary municipal services in that labor fuel equipment disposal

[3:17:31] costs are can and crease. However, as a resident, we should not be expected to approve a higher

[3:17:38] assessment without a clear explanation of what it is driving, the increase and what the

[3:17:44] city has done to control those costs. Before approving the 575 assessment, please explain how much

[3:17:49] of this increase results from the waste collection contract, disposal fee, administrative expenses,

[3:17:55] or additional services. Did the city competitively forbid or renegotiate the contract?

[3:18:02] We're alternative services arranged evaluated. Has the contractors perform as justified

[3:18:08] the increase costs? Again, this is a fixed charge that does not consider property value

[3:18:14] or household income. For seniors like myself, I am on an alluring count now and residents.

[3:18:20] Another $76 may appear modest with the overall budget, but it becomes significant when combined with the proposed increased in far rescue water control storm water assessment.

[3:18:33] Again, I would like to ask the Commission to explore, renegotiating the contract, reducing administrative expenses, applying available solid waste reserves, improving collection efficiencies and phasing in any unavoidable increases.

[3:18:49] the city should also consider lawful hardship assistance for qualifying low-income residents.

[3:18:55] I support reliable solid waste services but residents deserve proof that the proposed

[3:18:59] charges reflect the low lowest reasonable costs not simply the amount needed to balance

[3:19:05] the budget.

[3:19:06] Thank you so much.

[3:19:07] Please reconsider the 575 assessment and adopt the most affordable rate.

[3:19:11] Thank you so much.

[3:19:12] Thank you.

[3:19:13] Next person, please.

[3:19:21] Good evening.

[3:19:22] Again, Commissioner Mayer, Vice Mayor,

[3:19:25] City Manager, City Attorney, as well as City Clerk.

[3:19:29] The question I have to cover up these deficits,

[3:19:33] to get past November, are we in essence

[3:19:36] our plan is to quietly train our reserves?

[3:19:40] In addition, I am not opposing, obviously, on the resident.

[3:19:45] I am not opposing us balancing our budget,

[3:19:48] but the issue I'm having is what specific steps

[3:19:51] have we taken to go line, line by line to make sure that although we are allowing these...

[3:20:00] I'm bringing the downies and keeping the rates the same. What are we doing to make sure that if something happens, like a hurricane or things like that, that we are not demolishing our reserve, just so that we can get past an election year? That's my question.

[3:20:15] All right. Thank you. Next person.

[3:20:21] Have it done. We're going to bring it up here. Unless you want to, yes.

[3:20:25] If I could briefly,

[3:20:29] so the solid waste really consists of just two contracts, it's waste management that goes around picking up the garbage, and then it is at willibrator where the garbage is dumped, and so we pay to have it picked up, and we pay for disposal, and so there isn't a lot in this budget or really, you know, hardly anything in this budget that we can cut out of it.

[3:20:54] It is basically a service contract in the budget.

[3:21:01] Last year we used reserves out of the solid waste fund to keep the assessment lower.

[3:21:07] This year we're using the remaining $126,000 in reserves.

[3:21:12] And so I certainly understand reducing the fire assessment.

[3:21:17] The way we allocate fire rescue is different than the way some other cities do it.

[3:21:27] That's neither here nor there at this point, but I would strongly ask that this rate be approved

[3:21:35] because we cannot keep using reserves to dump another million dollars into this because we don't want to pay the

[3:21:46] there's the cost of the solid waste.

[3:21:49] If the direction from the commission is to put this out for bid

[3:21:54] down the road to explore with waste management,

[3:21:58] whether or not we can renegotiate any clause in the contract,

[3:22:02] that's separate from the assessment,

[3:22:05] because we need to be, this is their cost.

[3:22:08] This is waste management's cost to pick up our garbage,

[3:22:11] and this is wheelbraders' cost to dispose of the garbage

[3:22:15] Once it's taken there, or where our bulk goes to dispose of that as well.

[3:22:21] So I would strongly ask for your consideration, right?

[3:22:25] Because we're going to bring you back a budget at 7.4 mils that doesn't use any reserves.

[3:22:31] But we're going to have to throw in almost $5 million in reserves just for the fire rescue now.

[3:22:37] And so we would strongly ask that these remaining assessments stay the way they're proposed.

[3:22:44] Thank you.

[3:22:47] All right.

[3:22:49] Okay.

[3:22:50] Party comments are closed.

[3:22:51] We've got a bump here.

[3:22:54] Any questions here about the commission?

[3:22:56] Through the chair.

[3:22:57] You're recognized.

[3:23:00] This is exactly what I was saying earlier.

[3:23:04] And this is why I felt that there was a real need to explain the consequences.

[3:23:10] Is that, again, city manager?

[3:23:12] Can you please send me the history of the past two years?

[3:23:17] how much we actually use in our reserve. Please. And now you just mentioned that to cover

[3:23:27] the fire rescue, we have to take what $5 million? Sir? It was about $5 million. More than that?

[3:23:37] Close to six. Okay.

[3:23:42] I don't think tonight the commission is being responsible.

[3:23:47] I know they were trying to appease, but the education part was so important, do not, please.

[3:23:57] Don't do that, please.

[3:23:59] I'm trying to explain.

[3:24:01] Can we, can we, can we keep it civil please?

[3:24:07] Let's not cross that way.

[3:24:09] I'm sorry.

[3:24:10] I'm part of the conversation.

[3:24:12] Don't make statements, inclusive statements.

[3:24:15] Okay. Okay. Thank you. It's very respectful please.

[3:24:19] When we vote yes, I was talking about the commission that voted yes, and I'm sorry.

[3:24:28] Commissioner Lewis, Dilo is. Rick and Lewis, you are part of that yes group.

[3:24:34] What I'm saying is I thought what we're trying to do is come to a middle ground here.

[3:24:40] We have spoke to staff for the past couple of months.

[3:24:44] The staff is hired because their experts

[3:24:47] to bring in information, data, et cetera.

[3:24:53] And now, again, we are dipping in the reserves.

[3:24:57] I would love to know the past two years how much.

[3:25:00] We have literally spent. And what is the consequences of us actually continually dipping into the reserves? Because, again, if we were to have a, you know, I mean, it's hurricane season, right? There's a lot that's going on. And the last thing we want is not having funds to cover certain things. Thank you so much.

[3:25:26] any other commissioner? Okay, have a none. Let me go. I understand commissioner

[3:25:35] Martin's concern, but when you say the commission is not responsible tonight, I

[3:25:41] would like to know what is our role as commission when we go for election. Do we

[3:25:48] say we're, I mean I know we're working in the city, but for the reason, this is

[3:25:53] Why I respect what you just mentioned,

[3:25:59] but if we can find the same resident and I'm going

[3:26:02] to say it over and over, we hear it from the resident.

[3:26:06] The same resident just supply just anywhere we want to go.

[3:26:12] The same resident that we're hiring, we just could move it in the middle of any time we want.

[3:26:19] I mean, not we, where does the city and the commission together, if we're not taking consideration

[3:26:28] there?

[3:26:29] Okay, I have reserved, I'm not, I'm trying not to touch it, that's true.

[3:26:33] But what other alternative are we trying to try and to get, understand that we are a city

[3:26:39] unnoticed.

[3:26:40] A lot of things, the same thing, we're trying to remove some events, can we charge for them,

[3:26:47] some of them?

[3:26:48] Can we find other grants look for grants because if we're special with the specialists expert the tons of grants available

[3:26:58] You can give me a list of how many of grants we can't get, but finding grants we can get

[3:27:03] Find me other revenues we can get find other source of revenue. Those are the things I want to see the day we say

[3:27:09] We find so many other revenues to find ways. I'm gonna agree. I will group with you

[3:27:14] But my job here, our job here at this point is still to see how we can cut it down for the

[3:27:20] resident, the same with charge everywhere.

[3:27:22] But let me bring something else.

[3:27:24] How much, see imagine, how much is costing the resident right now for the recycle cycle in

[3:27:31] business?

[3:27:32] The total cost for the recycling.

[3:27:35] Well, I mean, I don't think we have a broken down by recycling or not, the total cost

[3:27:40] that the residents pay right now were $499 a year, that's for garbage pickup, we pick up the

[3:27:47] they do pick up the recycle as well as the bulk. So it's $499.

[3:27:51] Okay, so the point is, and I'm talking to just what you say is expert,

[3:27:55] how long will it be been paying for recycling in a, in a, in a, in a broad kind of

[3:28:00] assisted, you know, Florida? How many years have we been doing that?

[3:28:05] We've been, we've been paying recycle probably for about 20 years.

[3:28:07] 20 years, but recently with this, with it, with what's the management, they've been

[3:28:13] in our contractor for about three years, so the last three years.

[3:28:18] Okay, currently, how effective is recycling right now for the resident if paying for both?

[3:28:23] How effective it is?

[3:28:26] Recycling is not very effective right now, I mean, the market has fallen out for recycled goods

[3:28:34] And so recycling is not something that has a value.

[3:28:40] Right, but yet, we're isn't up in charge for that.

[3:28:43] And I'm not a resident too.

[3:28:44] I mean, I hear from resident, I go to other means.

[3:28:47] I've been still charged for something,

[3:28:49] is that being used?

[3:28:50] Well, with all due respect,

[3:28:53] whether it's in the blue cam or the brown cam,

[3:28:56] residents are putting it in and waste management

[3:28:59] is picking up and then we're paying to dispose of it.

[3:29:03] Fair, fair, but the point is, I'm reaping what resident is telling me, okay.

[3:29:08] Why are they paying for something or they could just put it all into a wall, but just want

[3:29:12] pay one free instead of paying specifically for recycling, and so on.

[3:29:17] That's a good point to have.

[3:29:19] So if we look at that one, the base on basis and the settlement, I have to go along with

[3:29:25] the resident to say that, why should we keep raising it and where we cannot even take care

[3:29:30] because recycling is a big issue in the, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in no Florida

[3:29:34] deal. So I'm going to consider that. I have to consider that. So as we asked to keep those

[3:29:40] assessment down, I mean, they'll not down. They'll keep the way it is. But we need to hear

[3:29:44] to, what, we're isn't, are complaining. Why are they paying some of them? I'm going to the

[3:29:49] extreme to separate and then, and we mentioned recently that everything goes to it to one

[3:29:57] So why are you paying for sorting them out now?

[3:30:00] When is that? It's not working. So that's where my argument is going to be here for with for Reset. So if there, why should we go up and with the same thing? So therefore, everybody's book at this point. So I'm going to say that again, as this, at this particular time in under the current circumstances, I do not support increasing this assessment again.

[3:30:28] The reason repeatedly expressed their concern about affordability for this one there, and I'm directing this is

[3:30:37] Magic can find a adjustment necessary to maintain this service there still for this time been through the chair.

[3:30:49] I did ask if everybody had something else, you know, but I know I did I did say.

[3:30:53] um okay, that was the motion I'm making there, I'll give you a second there did I give

[3:31:00] a really I'll give see see um uh uh no down to go ahead. So I'm just going to make that motion

[3:31:05] sorry? Yes. Uh really. Absolutely.

[3:31:11] Buddy.

[3:31:11] Recycling.

[3:31:13] Manager. Yes ma'am?

[3:31:17] Um can you please explain again. Why, now I'm not saying that you know we should whatever is

[3:31:25] proposed tonight. We should just go along with it, but maybe we can meet halfway or something

[3:31:31] because again, can you explain the consequences please?

[3:31:37] Yes, Madam. So last year's cost was

[3:31:41] $4.1 million and the revenue that we brought in was $4.1 million off of the $499.

[3:31:50] dollars. The new cost is $4.6 million and often up for $4.6 million. We're looking

[3:31:58] to increase the solid waste rate by $76 to $5.75. And so, absent the commission agreeing

[3:32:07] to raise solid waste, we're looking at another for $500,000 out of reserves that will

[3:32:17] need to use to balance this budget.

[3:32:19] Now, we will reach out to waste management.

[3:32:22] And we will ask waste management to give us a new proposal

[3:32:25] where we do bulk once a month, or we do bulk quarterly.

[3:32:30] We will look out what we spend for the household.

[3:32:33] We do it once a month.

[3:32:35] We will do bulk right now once a week.

[3:32:38] We will ask waste management to give us a new proposal

[3:32:40] to do bulk once a month, or quarterly once every quarter.

[3:32:45] now what happens is because I have those apartment complexes back there right and if we don't

[3:32:51] have consistent okay people picking up garbage then we continue to be that garbage dump back there

[3:32:57] it's is going to be an issue.

[3:33:03] So you so commissioner the apartments are under the city's service

[3:33:11] right they have a contract with waste management but correct if we come back they may

[3:33:16] cut back and if they don't pick up bulk on a weekly basis, then it could become a problem.

[3:33:23] The other thing we'll look at is, as part of this, we have the agreement for the recycled

[3:33:29] paint program and the household hazardous waste where we do that here in the adoptive

[3:33:34] streets.

[3:33:35] We'll have to look at that and see if that's something that we can eliminate.

[3:33:40] Because, again, my concern is, we've shared these numbers with the commission we have

[3:33:46] about $20 million in un-designated reserves.

[3:33:49] We have about $40 plus million in designated reserves.

[3:33:55] And one of those designated is if we have a hurricane, right?

[3:33:58] So we have money set aside for that.

[3:34:01] However, if we're going to use six or seven million dollars this year,

[3:34:06] our $19 million goes to $12 million, right?

[3:34:10] Or maybe even less.

[3:34:12] And so I empathetic with the cost of the fire rescue fee, right, and I understand the desire to lower it, however,

[3:34:30] right, yeah, this has no reserve.

[3:34:33] So, and so we understand what has no reserve.

[3:34:37] The solid waste special revenue fund has no reserves left in it.

[3:34:43] So the results in the solid waste special revenue fund has no reserves left in it.

[3:34:51] So the solid waste that people have paid in the past won't be able to pay moving forward.

[3:34:57] 126 it won't be able to do what again.

[3:35:00] The reserves. So whatever reserves are needed to balance this, won't come from solid waste. And what residents have paid from solid waste in the past.

[3:35:11] And so to soften the blow right to you, is there any desire to go to from 499 to 55530, but to bring in some additional revenue, because we're not able to write that the more we use reserves.

[3:35:29] right, four, five years from now, you know, there could be issues.

[3:35:36] If property tax passes next year, next budget year, we only lose $3 million.

[3:35:42] The year after, when it goes from $125 to $250 to $250,000 exemption, we go to, we lose

[3:35:51] about $4.5 million. When it goes to $500,000, we lose about $7 million.

[3:35:58] Okay, and these services are still going to have to be paid for, right?

[3:36:02] Because we still need to pick up garbage.

[3:36:04] We still need to have a fire department.

[3:36:06] We still need to have a police department.

[3:36:08] We may not have much of anything else after that, but we need to make sure that, you know,

[3:36:13] we are starting to pay, you know, that the residents are paying for the cost of the service.

[3:36:19] And as I said earlier, right, if the will of the commission is for us to negotiate with waste management,

[3:36:25] And we can certainly do that, right?

[3:36:27] But that negotiation won't be instant, right?

[3:36:30] So if it takes two months to come to a new agreement,

[3:36:34] or three months, right, we start to lose money

[3:36:37] on the service until, right, until we're able

[3:36:41] to get to a point where the service is at the price

[3:36:44] that we're charging.

[3:36:46] And if the direction, again, from the commission today

[3:36:49] is to use, right, reserves to balance this,

[3:36:53] We will reach out to waste management tomorrow, and we will ask to meet with them, and we will have conversations with them about

[3:37:00] Right, what is it cost if we do bulk once a month?

[3:37:04] Right, does that create a problem for the residents? It will because they're going to have to store their bulk until it's about

[3:37:10] Well, they're not going to be able to put it out on the swell. If we do bulk once a quarter, it'll be an issue

[3:37:16] If we eliminate stability to come here and dump your household hazardous waste, you're going to have to drive to one of the county

[3:37:23] locations to dump it. Those will just drive not to drive to one of the county

[3:37:29] locations. So I would ask for some consideration, right? It's 575 is too much. And the

[3:37:37] 499 is enough. And can we meet in the middle somewhere at, you know, 535, 530, 540. But

[3:37:46] something so we can bring in some additional revenue to help offset this cost. That would

[3:37:52] Okay, all right. Let me see. I'm going to go that right now. I'm going to put my advocacy

[3:37:56] chat hat on. Earlier, one of the commissioner proposed that we reduced salary for, um,

[3:38:05] from the compensation, that salary for the commission. That's fine.

[3:38:12] Some of the really

[3:38:13] nowhere I'm going, and I'm going to go there anyway. I hear a lot of about touching the

[3:38:20] consequences increase. I have not heard, we're going to try to work to find ways to find other

[3:38:27] revenues in the city. There's many opportunities to do that. But yet, understand, it's

[3:38:34] the same resident that I'm going to come with the same thing again, same resident, which

[3:38:38] might find reason why we need to increase it for them. But how about other salaries, where

[3:38:45] top, many of them were not looking at, are the projects we're not looking up to see to

[3:38:53] study to find out what about those, because, because, because hold on, hold on, hold on.

[3:39:05] The same reason that we are, we want to raise up there, and they say it and I'm going to say

[3:39:14] because I'm a resident too okay they do not get increases and I agree I agree everything else

[3:39:22] they do not get any of some of them out on fixed income they have to find it that's all I'm

[3:39:28] looking at at this point that's my job at this point what are we doing for them where what are

[3:39:35] getting other monies from say okay let's let's cut those and apply them for them we had an issue

[3:39:42] the earlier and is going to come back again.

[3:39:48] Pass. History showed that there is a

[3:39:53] resistance suffer from

[3:39:57] a previous garbage.

[3:40:00] Company. It was about $2 million. There has never been a dress. It has not been a dress. So to make it even worse, this

[3:40:10] is the same thing we discussed right now. Okay, I understand. We got to increase increase increase. But

[3:40:16] what is it we're going to, when is it going to be time for us to just say, okay, enough is enough,

[3:40:21] let's do a good study and figure out where we're going to find more revenues. That's what I'm going

[3:40:27] us.

[3:40:31] We have to have alternatives different ways there. Jumping from one to up to 10 to 10

[3:40:38] stories, it does not got to make it there. Do the chair mayor. Okay, so, so we don't have

[3:40:47] a series. We missed those opportunities.

[3:40:52] We have many other things that we're experts could

[3:40:55] see. Well, let's look, let's tap into that one. Let's tap into that one until we come. The

[3:41:00] Commission is waiting for a long time to find options to where you're going to which one

[3:41:04] you're going to taking. Now what we're doing here is not what's going to cut it at all.

[3:41:10] So at this point, the motion is to either we're going to step it. We're not going to step it.

[3:41:14] Step where is that? Through the chair mayor.

[3:41:17] 843 you have the floor. Is there I know we are not entitled city, but is there any way that we can

[3:41:25] me probably midway because I know what's being proposed tonight or what the recommendation

[3:41:31] is tonight but is there any way that we can meet midway please or maybe we can come

[3:41:36] up with a figure maybe we can hear from the residents.

[3:41:44] I mean I mean if the commission wants to come up with an alternative number they certainly

[3:41:54] can, right? I mean, every dollar added to the 499 is less in reserves that we're going

[3:42:01] to have to commit to this. But again, it's the desire, it's the will of the commission. If the

[3:42:08] commission wants us to, you know, commit additional reserves to this, then we will. We'll figure

[3:42:15] out how to do that, and we'll commit those reserves. I can tell you, right? And this is no secret,

[3:42:23] Right, in our budget plan, right, to balance the budget at 7.4, we've talked about this internally before, right, it will affect the employees, pure and simple, right, and I'm not saying this, it will affect the employees, everyone of the employees and I'm not saying that is a threat, right, I'm just saying that we are trying, right, there is an increase in services, right, diesel fuel is almost $7 a gallon, right, when this contract last year,

[3:42:52] diesel fuel was $2 a gallon. And so every garbage truck runs on diesel fuel, salaries have gone up,

[3:43:00] insurance has gone up. And so everything is going up every year. And so all we're trying to do is those

[3:43:06] expenses that are passed on to us, we're just passing them along. If you look at this budget, right,

[3:43:13] you'll see we're not adding anything to reserves to the solid waste reserves. It's not like that

[3:43:19] we go to 530, we're going to be putting $45 from every resident into reserves so we

[3:43:27] need to reserve. The 575 doesn't even need to reserve. And so if the Commission wants

[3:43:33] to consider a midway fee, that's fine. Like I said, we will reach out to waste management tomorrow

[3:43:40] and the next day and we will ask to sit down with them and have a conversation with them to

[3:43:46] you know, we need to hold our, we're holding our assessment flat.

[3:43:52] What can we do with them that will hold our assessment,

[3:43:55] our cost flat, and then we'll report back to you with the options

[3:44:00] that they give us.

[3:44:03] So at this point, I make the motion that we maintain the existing rate.

[3:44:08] Well, as you mentioned, see you manager,

[3:44:10] and we continue to find ways to find other options there.

[3:44:16] Yes sir. Through the chair Mayor.

[3:44:18] Ma'am, we have to move.

[3:44:20] I like you. You will like to speak many times.

[3:44:23] Because we need to go ahead.

[3:44:24] Go ahead. Go ahead.

[3:44:26] Go ahead.

[3:44:26] Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.

[3:44:27] Go ahead.

[3:44:29] City manager.

[3:44:31] Our staff here.

[3:44:32] You guys work extremely hard trying to find ways

[3:44:37] to supplement.

[3:44:39] So I need you guys to understand that.

[3:44:41] I mean, they're they're hard workers.

[3:44:44] Okay.

[3:44:44] And so when we're on the days and we say we'll need to find other ways, and etc, we are a non-titled city.

[3:44:52] We're not privy to certain things.

[3:44:55] And so we're really putting ourselves in a situation tonight.

[3:45:00] And unfortunately, where you guys are not going to really see this effect until maybe about a couple of months from today, a year from today, and then now where we're forced to make certain changes. Please constate.

[3:45:11] Thank you. Madam Commissioner, this is five votes.

[3:45:16] The item is we're going to move with it or not move away. When it comes to everybody, they can consciously, they will have failed.

[3:45:22] You want to increase it on resident or don't that same boys that come down to everyone's have a voice

[3:45:28] Let's move it. My name is been isn't moved in second it correct

[3:45:32] I already make a motion. I made a motion. I did not hear a second is there a second

[3:45:38] Okay, it's been second by vice mayor the motion is to maintain it or to

[3:45:44] maintain their their assessment the way it is or

[3:45:47] Accept it

[3:45:52] a motion to approve this one.

[3:45:55] Yes, to maintain to maintain to maintain an assessment.

[3:45:59] Keep it the way it is.

[3:46:00] So, which, which of the motions are you making?

[3:46:03] Which motion did you make?

[3:46:05] To keep the assessment the way it is.

[3:46:08] Okay.

[3:46:08] Motion to amend to, to, to.

[3:46:11] Your mandate.

[3:46:12] The assessment as it was in the past year.

[3:46:14] Commissioner Martin, to the chair.

[3:46:18] Where do we stand if we decided to go?

[3:46:22] If you make a amendment, you go for it because it's two different amendments, we've got to go with the first one first.

[3:46:31] Motion to amend.

[3:46:31] I mean, we're not, I'm a correct.

[3:46:34] You would go with the amended amended amendment, or do we go with the first amendment?

[3:46:41] It should be the first amendment, we'll be the first to pass any five.

[3:46:44] Because the first one is to, no, the first one is to go ahead.

[3:46:48] No, the, what we had was a, this particular resolution was the set in its 535.

[3:46:55] Right, you're making a motion to, to keep it the same rate.

[3:47:01] Yes. Now, there's, she'd like to make a motion to, to make, to make, to make, to make, to be increased.

[3:47:08] Basically, 50% of the, $76 that's been put on there, which is $38 more than the 499.

[3:47:18] 499 plus 38 is what she'd like to make as a motion, so which motion prevails, that's a question.

[3:47:26] I believe that you have to go first by the second motion that was made.

[3:47:32] We should keep the rate first.

[3:47:36] No, the second amendment.

[3:47:37] Okay, the second amendment.

[3:47:38] amendment. Yeah. Okay. So, did we have a second on that one? Did we have a second on this? It made by a

[3:47:46] commission. I'm sure a second on Commissioner Louis Grickett's motion. Is there a second on that?

[3:47:51] Second on that, please. Okay. Then you go with a roll call. That's 537.

[3:47:58] 537.

[3:48:01] Yes.

[3:48:03] Call the roll. Call the roll, please. Commissioner Martin. I'm sorry. The first roll will be

[3:48:08] for the 537.

[3:48:11] For this one.

[3:48:13] I'm sorry.

[3:48:14] I'm sorry.

[3:48:16] Remember this one?

[3:48:18] Yes.

[3:48:21] Vice-Nair Boost Monte.

[3:48:23] I guess yes.

[3:48:24] But can I ask a good question?

[3:48:28] Yes.

[3:48:31] I'd like to share.

[3:48:31] I wanted to.

[3:48:32] I have a question.

[3:48:34] What happened if we take it off the day?

[3:48:38] the blue can but you're not in a position to do that because that's in an agreement between

[3:48:48] the city and the waste company. So you can direct the city manager to look into that,

[3:48:57] but it's not really changing anything because the change has to be the agreement between

[3:49:02] the city and the management company, you're to say what I'm saying, it's not up to the city

[3:49:08] commission to change the terms of an agreement that's already executed. So you could suggest

[3:49:15] that they could work on that, but you can't vote to change that right now. We can probably

[3:49:22] save some money and that, you know, but I'm saying that you can direct the city manager to look

[3:49:27] into that. But it's not a one-sided thing. It's an agreement between two parties. So if you

[3:49:35] already have an agreement with the waste management company to do the blue can or whatever,

[3:49:43] it's there now. You can't change it just by making a decision on the days. You can look into

[3:49:49] but it's already there, so you can't modify it yourself.

[3:49:54] Okay, right now, there was an amendment that was proposed.

[3:50:00] And then a second amendment, that was proposed. So we took the, if they take the second one, then they won't take the first one, et cetera. So right now the amendment that people were voting on was the 537,

[3:50:16] that it would be the, that would be an increase of 30, eight dollars.

[3:50:22] $38.00 and not in that of any $38.00.

[3:50:27] We can say those $38.00.

[3:50:30] And the future.

[3:50:32] Is it yes or no?

[3:50:33] Yes.

[3:50:34] Yes to for it.

[3:50:36] Yes.

[3:50:37] I say yes, but I mean, I'm going to be looking for that further.

[3:50:42] Take it off the look.

[3:50:45] Under future.

[3:50:46] Come back to your Louis.

[3:50:48] Yes.

[3:50:49] And Mayor Bogellon.

[3:50:50] No.

[3:50:50] Thank you.

[3:50:52] All right to the chair. Just one quick question. Well, if he's done this item is over.

[3:50:56] No, it's on the item. Just support of the item.

[3:50:59] Yes.

[3:51:01] We do need to talk with waste management because after meeting with them personally,

[3:51:05] she told me we don't recycle. So if we are getting charged for it,

[3:51:08] we do need to talk with them or look for another service provider.

[3:51:11] That's all.

[3:51:12] This was the exact point we made. Why?

[3:51:15] We're increasing on the resident when they have a point there,

[3:51:18] paying for something as they don't and that's what I'm saying suppose that. Why increase even one

[3:51:23] penny on them? Is the CD coming broke on that one there? Is there any way can we find this?

[3:51:30] Is it what illegal with the request to keep it there at this point in work? Something that's what it is.

[3:51:35] And so this is all removed and that's fine. Okay. We just for the record, we pay by the

[3:51:41] tonnage that they pick up whether it's in the blue can or the ground can. We pay by the tonnage

[3:51:47] for the garbage that's picked up as well as the bulk. So when I spoke what

[3:51:53] she said the blue can really is just a black can truthfully. Exactly. So, all right,

[3:51:59] that's what we're looking to. Okay.

[3:52:03] My name is Kenny, so there's no other monsters

[3:52:06] than this one, this is done. This one is done. Okay, that's good. Okay. You have the floor for,

[3:52:14] You have the floor for next item for C. It's almost done. Then after this meeting,

[3:52:21] there we have another meeting here. It's almost done. Go ahead.

[3:52:24] A resolution of the City Commission of the City of North Florida,

[3:52:27] Dale Florida, relating to the provision of storm water management provided by the city storm

[3:52:33] water management utility. In the city of North Florida, Dale Florida,

[3:52:37] approving the storm water management utility assessment rate of $200 per ERU for the fiscal year.

[3:52:44] beginning on October 1, 2026, imposing a stormwater management utility assessment against the

[3:52:51] SES property, located within the city of North Florida, for the fiscal year of beginning

[3:52:56] on October 1, 2026, providing facility, providing for conflicts and providing an effective

[3:53:04] date.

[3:53:04] See, imagine who's going to do a position.

[3:53:07] Mr. Mayor, our budget manager will, and he is pleased to have sure.

[3:53:14] In regards to the stormwater fiscal year 2027 projected budget and revenues, the budget itself

[3:53:22] is a 15 million, 4, 15,700 and how we basically budgeted and balanced that was through

[3:53:35] proposed assessment of 200 for the single family and 100 for the multi-family, which would

[3:53:43] have generated three, a little over three million dollars. Grants and other revenues that we

[3:53:50] expect to collect would be 11,348. And then this fund does have almost a million dollars in

[3:53:59] balance so that would offset the gap so that's how that this fund was budgeted to the

[3:54:05] 15,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Now, what's really driving that is that we're looking

[3:54:13] to do to fund the silver lake's drainage improvement which is a $5.9 million project and also

[3:54:23] the Tamil Center, Paven and Drainage.

[3:54:27] So those are the two major projects that's in that fund

[3:54:29] that's driving it.

[3:54:30] That we're looking to fund for 2027,

[3:54:35] and that's what's driving the budget

[3:54:37] of that $15 million a little over.

[3:54:43] And that completes that.

[3:54:46] Okay, this item is open to the public for any comments.

[3:54:59] Good evening.

[3:55:00] Again, mayor, commissioners, in this particular, sorry, sorry for the record, city, my name is Linda Ashby,

[3:55:08] I'm a resident of North Lauderdale. The proposed water-controlled district non-advalent

[3:55:12] assessment is what we're discussing. In my particular situation, my annual assessment.

[3:55:18] It's a stormwater assessment. I'm sorry, stormwater assessment.

[3:55:30] The increase is from $95 to $200.

[3:55:33] Is that correct?

[3:55:36] No.

[3:55:39] That's the water control district.

[3:55:52] Pardon me.

[3:55:56] Do you want to yield a time for someone else if this later on you can come back?

[3:56:01] If you're searching?

[3:56:02] Okay.

[3:56:02] You could yield someone else.

[3:56:09] Okay.

[3:56:10] But I'm just wondering.

[3:56:12] And we got 5.9 million per server lake drainage now.

[3:56:14] Is it server lakes a HOA and isn't that there?

[3:56:17] Or is this something like our canal program where it's.

[3:56:21] They can't drain out because there's everything they've built has nowhere to go.

[3:56:25] So that's why you guys ask about that.

[3:56:28] So we know should the city be paying for that?

[3:56:31] Or is that something they should be paying for? That's my only question.

[3:56:33] Okay, we'll have city manager answer that later on.

[3:56:36] Please, thank you.

[3:56:37] Next person, please.

[3:56:41] You received a gift. Can you bring back the relevant slide?

[3:56:51] So what is the charge for commercial properties?

[3:56:54] 200 for single family, 100 for multi-family?

[3:56:57] What about commercial properties?

[3:56:58] Okay. My special assessment on this specific one, no closer to the stormwater assessment

[3:57:07] went up from $6,500 to $9,400. 50% increased $3,000. And I'm still getting a

[3:57:18] flooded when it rains heavily. Okay, is the administration about both to provide

[3:57:28] Village is not in HOA association.

[3:57:33] It is districts between 76 Avenue and 80th Avenue,

[3:57:38] 10th Street, 10th Court off of Kimberly Boulevard.

[3:57:40] So it is just regular city streets.

[3:57:43] And so there is a small portion, has drainage.

[3:57:47] The rest does not have drainage.

[3:57:49] And so this project would come in,

[3:57:52] put all new drainage in.

[3:57:53] And then obviously the roads will be repaved

[3:57:56] and there'd be some medians put in as well.

[3:57:58] and some landscaping, as for the cost for commercial, we'd have to look at his square footage

[3:58:09] and we could get back in touch with him and let him know what the cost is for commercial.

[3:58:20] And then as for the drainage, remember stormwater is where the city piping is.

[3:58:26] And so in a parking lot, that's private property, and so the parking lot would need to be

[3:58:31] able to drain out to our system, and then once it gets to our system, the eventual

[3:58:36] goal will, the pump station will get rid of that water quicker.

[3:58:41] So we can look and we'll get back to him on the exact cost for, I believe it's for permeable

[3:58:47] surface.

[3:58:50] Thank you.

[3:58:51] Go ahead real quick.

[3:58:55] are any of the non-advolume, one time, or those will become permanent.

[3:59:01] In other words, you are talking here about doing this specific work on those lakes.

[3:59:07] Okay, what's in the following year? Another lake, or it's one time seeing the non-advolume.

[3:59:12] Meaning will there be a miracle, and next year we are going to see a decrease in the non-advolume, or forget about it.

[3:59:19] Mr. Mayer, fine, good. Yes, you may.

[3:59:21] So storm water, solid waste, and water control district are every year assessments, fires

[3:59:28] have been the only thing that historically has gone for a period of time for five years,

[3:59:34] that study that's done incorporates all of the fire costs for five years.

[3:59:39] So these are each year, this is based on what the budget is and what the capital projects are.

[3:59:45] So I can't guarantee next year there would be a reduction, there may be a reduction,

[3:59:49] that may be the same, maybe a little bit more, but it's a buy year and buy budget item.

[4:00:00] Does that make sense? Thank you very much. Yes, you're recognized for that.

[4:00:08] My name is Linda Ashby. I'm a resident of North Lauderdale. This is for the storm water assessment. Again, I would like to oppose this proposition.

[4:00:19] Because for me, that's an increase of 43% in a single year from 36 to 36, that's a 36-dollar increase.

[4:00:28] Although 36 may sound insignificant to some in the city.

[4:00:33] But it does not stand alone as a resident and simultaneously facing increases in the other areas like fire rescue water control.

[4:00:41] And of course we've now renegotiated those when combined these charges create a substantial

[4:00:47] financial financial burden on my part.

[4:00:50] I recognize that North Lauderdale must maintain its drainage systems and added an address

[4:00:55] flooding.

[4:00:57] I live here and I understand the importance of effective storm waters management.

[4:01:01] However, residents deserve documentation showing exactly why 43% increase is necessary, which

[4:01:09] specific projects, it will find how the amount was calculated in what spending reductions or alternative funding sources were considered.

[4:01:18] Again, I state as a senior citizen living here on a fixed income, I cannot increase my income by 43% whenever someone else, whenever one of my expenses rises.

[4:01:31] I must prioritize reduced spending and phase in cost over time.

[4:01:36] And I really suggest that the city consider gradual increases in the funding of these specific

[4:01:45] non-advalorant issues.

[4:01:49] I emailed, I just emailed you regarding a possible solution.

[4:01:53] I understand that you have stated that you're very concerned about all the issues and

[4:01:59] you want to educate us and you do believe that these increases are necessary.

[4:02:03] However, as a senior citizen may I propose, and I've sent you the email, to at least consider

[4:02:10] a gradual increase so that we're not so significantly burdened by the cost.

[4:02:16] For me this year, this burden is just overwhelming.

[4:02:20] It's actually an entire month of my income.

[4:02:23] So I will have to live 12 months on 11 months of income or go get a job, which I'm looking

[4:02:30] if you're looking for somebody with experience.

[4:02:35] Thank you. Thank you.

[4:02:38] Okay. Any further questions from the public?

[4:02:42] Have you done?

[4:02:44] Okay.

[4:02:45] Yes.

[4:02:47] Guys, this is the last time I'm coming to the podium today.

[4:02:52] When we buy investment properties on one,

[4:02:55] when every investor, when they look at investment properties,

[4:02:58] It's well known that in South Florida, you can calculate your real estate taxes as about

[4:03:04] 2%.

[4:03:05] If you buy a property for a million dollars, you know in your head, my real estate taxes are

[4:03:10] going to be more or less 20k.

[4:03:12] That's more or less a rule of thumb, can be 25, can be 19, that's about.

[4:03:19] When I look at my tax belief, if this were to be to get approved, we are above 3%.

[4:03:25] And that probably would be the highest tax bracket I have seen in South Florida.

[4:03:32] So bear that in mind.

[4:03:33] I know that here, the commission, the amount in mentioned, hey, we need money to support

[4:03:39] it.

[4:03:40] If it's not going to come from one place, it needs to come from another pocket.

[4:03:43] Totally understandable.

[4:03:44] However, different cities are able to operate on a budget.

[4:03:48] I mean, on the real estate, it's a real estate tax side of the budget at about 2%, 2,

[4:03:53] to 0.2, 1.9, that's about where it is. And that's Ad Vologam and Non Ad Vologam. In other

[4:04:00] words, when I'm sitting here and I know I'm about 3% something doesn't add up. Something

[4:04:06] doesn't add up. Now the 2% is a 2% from current market rate and current market rates

[4:04:14] have been going up dramatically in the last few years. So it's never staying the same amount

[4:04:20] the city. You're getting 2% every year from an increased amount. Again, I'm talking commercial,

[4:04:26] non-holested properties, a bit of a different look. Thank you. Thank you. It's back to, thank you,

[4:04:34] probably comments is close. Have a none. Now there are speakers. Now it's back to the commission

[4:04:41] for discussion.

[4:04:48] Okay. If you have no discussion, that's it. Well, let me let go with my one,

[4:04:54] our city of city's significant bridge.

[4:05:00] Issue that we have in the storm of water infrastructure needs. And those needs are real.

[4:05:13] But nevertheless,

[4:05:15] the, at this time, and again, under the current circumstances, we heard the resident, many of them

[4:05:24] talk about the same thing

[4:05:28] again, I would like to see the city continue to pursue infrastructure

[4:05:39] funding,

[4:05:43] pursue grants, if I can, can say that. Other responsible funding sources,

[4:05:53] I have

[4:05:53] to take in consideration what the residents are asking for at this point, at this point

[4:05:58] of time. Did we have another option? I didn't have any option right there, except to

[4:06:05] approve it. I'm not prepared to support an increase in this assessment.

[4:06:13] I'm

[4:06:13] support, please. I support maintaining this existing rate while the city

[4:06:19] continue to find grants or any other source that they do. So I just made that

[4:06:26] Motion there to amend it to keep the rate the same as the same way do I have a second it is second it

[4:06:39] What I'm close to the chair in regards to the grants we actually have 11.3 million dollars in grants that we're budgeting for 2027 in this fund

[4:06:51] Okay, well

[4:06:52] I understand, but this is not quite a matter.

[4:06:56] I don't identify any grants.

[4:06:57] I'm saying many other sources.

[4:07:01] That's many other sources.

[4:07:02] Because I'm going to make it clear.

[4:07:05] If I have a commission or mayor, a commission,

[4:07:10] if I have to accept everything that's presented to me,

[4:07:12] then there's no need for us to present to me to vote.

[4:07:17] If I'm told, we have to accept everything we can achieve.

[4:07:20] That's why we have the individual votes.

[4:07:24] I made a motion myself, based on what I hear,

[4:07:27] I've been hearing over it and not just in this room, all across the city,

[4:07:31] whereas in this timing there,

[4:07:34] so back to the draw, drawing board,

[4:07:39] to figure out other ways to find revenues for the city.

[4:07:42] So I cannot charge myself.

[4:07:45] I'm just one vote.

[4:07:47] I will not be able to sleep tonight if I increase anything

[4:07:49] to me tonight. So it's five votes. It's been moved and seconded?

[4:07:56] Yes.

[4:07:59] I'm sorry to say that again?

[4:08:01] That was by Vice Mayor.

[4:08:03] It's been moved and seconded.

[4:08:05] Okay. Thank you.

[4:08:07] Through the chair mayor.

[4:08:08] Well, how are we going to go with this again?

[4:08:11] We made a motion already.

[4:08:14] I asked earlier if there's any question,

[4:08:16] Nobody answered the question. Now we move on to the motion. It's been moved and seconded.

[4:08:22] Yes. Yes.

[4:08:23] May I have to say that when there's a motion, even if it doesn't say motion for discussion,

[4:08:30] if it just is a motion, you don't need to specify the question.

[4:08:34] When you say motion to approve or motion, whatever motion it is, you get a second.

[4:08:41] There's an opportunity for discussion right after that.

[4:08:45] and you give the opportunity to anyone who wants to speak back quite, motion, second, discussion, then vote.

[4:08:55] Thank you.

[4:08:55] It was moved to proof.

[4:08:58] Right.

[4:08:59] Even if you move to approve, whatever you call it, if you call it motion for discussion, motion, simply, motion to approve.

[4:09:06] Once you make a motion and you get a second, there's a gap between the vote and which is, there's a gap for discussion.

[4:09:15] that you give them an opportunity to discuss it.

[4:09:20] No matter what you call it.

[4:09:22] Once a motion is made and you have a second,

[4:09:25] there's a gap for discussion, then you vote.

[4:09:28] Well, I'm going to disagree with you.

[4:09:30] I'm not saying, I mean, we already,

[4:09:32] usually we will, once we move to approve it,

[4:09:36] we will be seconded and we will go to the roll call.

[4:09:38] Right, that's because usually you do a,

[4:09:41] sometimes I've noticed you do it here.

[4:09:43] It's not necessary, but sometimes you do a motion to discuss, then you get a second, then

[4:09:49] you have a discussion, then you move to approve, then you get a second, then you just

[4:09:53] vote.

[4:09:54] But since you didn't have a discussion period, you just had a motion and a second, there's

[4:10:00] There's an opportunity to discuss before you vote. Okay, in that case, I'm going to ask you if you could just standardize it for us to. We have it because otherwise it is, you know, it's not, it is Robert rules. Once there's a motion, any motion, whatever you want to call it, motion to approve motion to discuss motion. Once there's a motion, there's a second, there's an opportunity right after that for discussion. So if you don't have any motions for discussion, you just have a regular motion to approve.

[4:10:28] You don't even have to do the discussion one you just go regular motions for a pool

[4:10:32] You get a second then you have an opportunity for discussion before the vote

[4:10:36] Okay, so I just want to be clear because I that's fine. Yeah, no, but that means after that after even though we made a motion to approve it

[4:10:44] Yes, we're really seconded it

[4:10:46] Yes, and then we're going to another motion to you don't need any more to okay motion

[4:10:50] You just have a discussion, but join the discussion

[4:10:53] that doesn't change anything, meaning your motion is still on the floor. Your second is still there.

[4:10:59] After the discussion, then you take a vote call.

[4:11:02] That's no problem at all. Okay.

[4:11:04] The change of motion.

[4:11:05] Yes. Okay.

[4:11:06] Go ahead.

[4:11:07] Through the chair mayor.

[4:11:09] Yes. That is a part of Robert Rolls.

[4:11:11] That's what we actually learned.

[4:11:12] Thank you for mentioning that.

[4:11:14] I just want to, if you can reiterate that for us, please,

[4:11:17] you said that there's 11.3, that 11.11 million that we have to match.

[4:11:25] So, okay, so to the chair, the grants and other revenues is 11.3.

[4:11:32] You saw Bill Grant?

[4:11:33] Yeah, there's grants and other revenues that's 11.3 and we do have to match the funds that

[4:11:40] we're getting in regards to that.

[4:11:42] So, the 5.9 and the $4 million for this time was sent to those are required to be matched.

[4:11:50] So, I really want you to say that again, we have 11.3 and grants and we

[4:11:55] must match, right? And so if we choose not to, do we lose that 11.3? We won't say necessarily

[4:12:04] lose it, but we'd have to figure out how we will match it. So if this fund cannot support

[4:12:09] that, we'll have to rely on other sources to identify other revenue sources to be able

[4:12:16] to match that, so we don't lose it, but it is a requirement.

[4:12:23] Yeah. So in other words,

[4:12:25] these projects won't be funded.

[4:12:28] If we don't identify additional funding sources, no.

[4:12:32] Right, because right now, on the table,

[4:12:34] we have $11 million, right?

[4:12:37] It is, yes, we do.

[4:12:42] Mission, just to add that.

[4:12:45] Can you please begin?

[4:12:46] The total cost of the project is a 15 plus million.

[4:12:51] So if we don't match it or move it,

[4:12:53] the project is short funded.

[4:12:56] So we have how much would it be short funded?

[4:12:58] by the additional 4 million plus that we need in matching funds.

[4:13:03] Okay, so right now, I just want you to explain, we have in grants.

[4:13:09] Yeah, we are on the revenue that tolls 11 plus million.

[4:13:15] The toll cost of the project is 15 plus million.

[4:13:19] So there's a short fall that the assessment was support the additional funds that are needed to complete the project.

[4:13:27] So, when we vote no, we will lose the grants.

[4:13:32] Yes, you can only get up to have the amount that you've extended.

[4:13:38] Okay.

[4:13:39] Thank you.

[4:13:40] Let me ask you a question there.

[4:13:42] If we go in there, we're going to go straight to that question there.

[4:13:45] Several weeks, drainage improvement.

[4:13:47] As well as time of shelter paving and drainage improvement.

[4:13:52] It's not a new project.

[4:13:53] It's been there for years.

[4:13:55] When is it going to start this year?

[4:13:59] Let's say it's approved.

[4:14:01] If it's approved tonight, when is it going to start?

[4:14:06] That public works answer.

[4:14:07] It's their project.

[4:14:11] It's me.

[4:14:13] Can you say for the record?

[4:14:16] Neil Buckeridge.

[4:14:18] It's a report that works utilities director.

[4:14:20] So the civil exchange drain is improvement.

[4:14:22] It's engineering right now.

[4:14:24] And that should be going out in the middle of the 2027.

[4:14:26] The time of shenner is also in engineer design right now.

[4:14:31] That is expected to go out in October 20, mid-27, early 28.

[4:14:39] So, how does it going to change whether we keep the rate assessment the same way?

[4:14:46] How is it going to impact it?

[4:14:49] Well, as was stated before, these are grandfather projects that require matching funds.

[4:14:54] So, the matching funds are coming out of reserves.

[4:14:56] And we have to put that money back, so that's why we're the reason for that.

[4:15:03] Okay, that's in your term, and my concern is again for finance or wherever the department is to figure out other ways to find out.

[4:15:16] If we're to keep it at the same, that's on my concern.

[4:15:23] We are still actively looking for additional grant funds, so we have spoken with a quite a few people.

[4:15:29] It's going to be released, but it's going to take time.

[4:15:33] Okay, so I mean, I join you at this point, I mean, we have not exhausted everything so far.

[4:15:41] We have not.

[4:15:41] No, it's correct.

[4:15:42] I still have to pay.

[4:15:43] Okay.

[4:15:44] If I could, staff recently participated in a call with Department of Emergency Management FEMA.

[4:15:52] On the federal side, they have money available for resiliency projects.

[4:15:57] And so we are looking to see if this, if the temperature and boulevard project would qualify as a resiliency project.

[4:16:07] And if it does, we will apply for a grant for it.

[4:16:11] The other contingency part would be sometimes you can use federal money to match a state grant.

[4:16:17] But sometimes you can't. So that's something also that our grant writer will be looking into to make sure that we can apply for that.

[4:16:24] So we can apply.

[4:16:25] Okay, so what's the total for total for the project this project any both projects there?

[4:16:31] What's the total needed required because we're talking about over years and years?

[4:16:37] Why is the total?

[4:16:40] So, so, total for ten more, go back to ten more?

[4:16:47] Ten more?

[4:16:48] Ten more?

[4:16:49] Ten more?

[4:16:58] and we have to measure it in the fight back.

[4:17:01] So, total is bound to live, well, total for the grants, right?

[4:17:08] I, okay, okay, let me, let me myself clear, let me myself clear,

[4:17:13] let me myself clear, we have the silver legs,

[4:17:15] drainage improvement and Tamashender,

[4:17:17] appearing and doing improvement together.

[4:17:20] What is the total of expected for the whole project?

[4:17:24] Is it 20 million, is it 15 million, is it 10 million,

[4:17:27] What are we at this point?

[4:17:29] Okay, so several days with a matching grant.

[4:17:31] Total.

[4:17:32] You're looking at, you look at 11.8.

[4:17:36] 11.8.

[4:17:38] In the second one.

[4:17:39] And then second one.

[4:17:42] So it's 5.2 if I remember correctly.

[4:17:45] So I had another 5.2 that's 10.4.

[4:17:50] Can I give you a total of what?

[4:17:52] I'm not good at math.

[4:17:54] I'm sorry.

[4:17:55] I just need to know.

[4:17:58] 21.2 minutes.

[4:17:58] 31. 21. 21. 21. Okay, so by not, by keeping the assessment, the way it is right now today,

[4:18:06] how is it going to hurt? Because we're not there. This is 5.9 plus 4. Right now, there's not

[4:18:13] give me 21. I'm not even close to 21. That means the project will not even start.

[4:18:21] The point, I'm trying to make sure that if we, if we start in project tomorrow or next month or this year,

[4:18:28] passing this assessment that we wanted from $90 to $200 for the

[4:18:33] resident. How is it going to be, I want to say if the project

[4:18:37] is going to be done at this point, if not going to be done, when is it

[4:18:41] going to start? And I'm like, I'm saying, this has been been for over

[4:18:45] four years, everything that I became a commissioner, 2016.

[4:18:50] All right. So, like I said, right now, I've

[4:18:52] It's in an engineering phase design phase, right?

[4:18:56] That's all, I think we're paying 1.1 million dollars right now for that design.

[4:19:01] Okay, all right, we'll get, yeah.

[4:19:03] Yeah, my question is still not, I mean, what those two projects went, are they good?

[4:19:07] I want to have a timeline, when is it going to start?

[4:19:11] All right.

[4:19:17] All right.

[4:19:18] So construct.

[4:19:20] So projects already started.

[4:19:22] They're an engineering.

[4:19:23] The construction portion now.

[4:19:24] That's what you're looking for, sir.

[4:19:26] The construction portion of Civil Lakes is going to start in early 27th.

[4:19:31] Like we're talking about, January.

[4:19:34] Once all the engineering and permits are done,

[4:19:36] we'll give you a start.

[4:19:37] We'll be able to come back to you with a start.

[4:19:40] And construction is not going to start in a time of shen or until

[4:19:44] around 28, 20, 28.

[4:19:47] Let me put it in the last way.

[4:19:49] Last way I can understand for now.

[4:19:51] Okay, by keeping the assessment the same as it is, we'll stop the project at all.

[4:20:01] We would have to move forward with the project service, because these are, um, yeah, state grant funds grant funds that we're using. So, okay, we still need to replenish our service.

[4:20:10] That's good. As long we have a project plan for me.

[4:20:13] For my residence, I'm looking at, because we have a lot of assessment and this particular case also is doubling up.

[4:20:20] I didn't get, we didn't get three options, whether it's going to be $95, $100, but it's going from $90 to $200.

[4:20:29] I just want to see.

[4:20:31] That's what I'm what what whatever what it is.

[4:20:34] One for what it's one for.

[4:20:36] Okay, so it's we've just heard the resist.

[4:20:38] Many of them say same thing.

[4:20:40] I'm looking that's what I'm looking for.

[4:20:47] Okay.

[4:20:48] Then it was moved it.

[4:20:50] We already moved it.

[4:20:51] Okay.

[4:20:52] Okay.

[4:20:52] We moved it and second it.

[4:20:55] So got to try.

[4:20:56] Five votes.

[4:20:57] Just just.

[4:20:59] Can we get to a middle ground or someone?

[4:21:01] Can we.

[4:21:01] or what I would call for the amendment.

[4:21:11] 1923.

[4:21:13] Next, can we get to a middle ground?

[4:21:15] But those are, as I'm trying to say,

[4:21:19] is require studies, we don't just, I don't

[4:21:22] see, we just throw numbers at that.

[4:21:24] We've got to have purpose, what it is,

[4:21:25] what the consequences are,

[4:21:27] or how it's going to benefit, or not benefit the reason.

[4:21:30] That's all I'm looking at, this is for.

[4:21:32] Because through, through the chair, mayor.

[4:21:35] You recognize?

[4:21:36] I would love to hear.

[4:21:37] What was that?

[4:21:40] Please come in.

[4:21:44] There has been a study done for the storm order piece at that time.

[4:21:48] The piece where it implemented a study was completed and think it was for five year term.

[4:21:53] We are year number three into that five year.

[4:21:57] So in order to maintain or receive the grants because I'm going to say we've been asking about grants.

[4:22:06] Finally, we're seeing 11 million dollars, right? We're of grants.

[4:22:13] And so based on your study, because I'm not sure if the commission really understands

[4:22:17] or based on your study, we need this assessment tonight, or we lose 11 million dollars of grant money.

[4:22:26] Potentially, because if I think it's a potentially, or we will lose, please, because we have to explain that.

[4:22:34] If the project is not complete, you can collect on the grant.

[4:22:38] We're going to lose 11 million dollars worth of grants.

[4:22:41] And we've been talking about grants all day.

[4:22:44] And we have grant money that there's on the table.

[4:22:48] And if we can't imagine we're going to lose, correct?

[4:22:51] Correct.

[4:22:51] Thank you.

[4:22:52] Thank you very much.

[4:22:55] This is what we're...

[4:22:56] But for the record, if the project is not completed,

[4:22:59] we're not even not completed yet.

[4:23:00] We haven't started yet.

[4:23:02] or my, I give you my time or my, my concern is if we do not pass this, if we maintain

[4:23:11] access in the same way, now we're talking about, if the project is not completed, the project

[4:23:16] even started yet is that's, you know, that's all I'm looking for. So we have five votes here.

[4:23:21] We have five votes. It's been moved to maintain it or approve of the way it is. So it's been

[4:23:32] It was moved to maintain it the way it is, right?

[4:23:37] To maintain it to keep this weight is, and see it to find other ways to figure out.

[4:23:42] It's an amendment to maintain it.

[4:23:44] A amendment yes, it's an amendment to exist in rate.

[4:23:50] Commissioner Martin?

[4:23:51] No.

[4:23:52] Commissioner Louis Ricketts.

[4:24:00] We're saying that to the chair.

[4:24:03] You're right.

[4:24:03] Okay.

[4:24:04] Thank you.

[4:24:05] Michael Paul.

[4:24:07] Oh, so far.

[4:24:07] If we do not increase the in here, if we do not, if we do not, if we do not, if we do not,

[4:24:18] increase the rate.

[4:24:19] Accept this six to dollar increase, however it is, then we are going to fall very short of being able to do this.

[4:24:30] And the, and the volatility is that we do not accept this increase.

[4:24:37] The vote is to keep the assessment the way it is, I made a amendment to keep it the same

[4:24:44] we do not raise it and there is another amendment, correct?

[4:24:50] No, there is no other amendment.

[4:24:51] There is no other amendment.

[4:24:54] There is no other amendment.

[4:25:00] As the public director said, we're looking to apply for other grants. We haven't gotten any grants yet.

[4:25:09] But the federal department of emergency management came out about two weeks ago with a grant, about a billion dollars.

[4:25:18] And half of it is for resiliency. The other half of it is for evacuation routes.

[4:25:23] We have a grant writer that helped us write the grants that got the Solar Lakes Drainage Improvement Grant and the Tamoshaner Grant.

[4:25:32] They met with our federal lobbyists, so public works, finance, met with our federal lobbyists as well as as well as the grant writer.

[4:25:44] And we ask those questions.

[4:25:46] Can we apply for one or both of those grants as additional funding to help offset these grants?

[4:25:54] We don't know the answer yet.

[4:25:55] It's something that they're exploring.

[4:25:57] If we can, we'll apply for it.

[4:25:59] And then we'll hope that we get that grant.

[4:26:02] And then that grant money would offset what the...

[4:26:05] Some amount of what the city may need to pay.

[4:26:09] Whether it's 100%, whether it's 50%.

[4:26:11] and it all depends what we get from the federal government.

[4:26:15] No, Mike.

[4:26:16] Just for clarification, if we decide to leave the assessment as it previously was before this increase,

[4:26:26] we are still going to move ahead with civilics with it.

[4:26:32] Correct?

[4:26:33] The commission would have to give us direction not to.

[4:26:36] But I'm saying we will.

[4:26:38] we will come back to you, right? If there are no other funding options available, then we'll

[4:26:43] want to come back to you. We haven't gotten to that bridge yet.

[4:26:47] Okay. So, okay. So, then we can leave it as it's for now, for now.

[4:26:53] Okay, just for the record, because we got Miss, Miss, how did you say? The Emperor is not correct.

[4:27:02] We're just told based on the commission commission asking the question there, we're going to lose the grant.

[4:27:10] Okay, and we're told potentially then commission wanted to make sure it's not traditionally, yes, so no, she said, yes, we're going to lose it.

[4:27:19] We've got information from City McCurrent me from wrong.

[4:27:21] You can actually see, imagine we say, we haven't got any, I'm writing, we haven't got any or the grant yet.

[4:27:30] So, my question, how can we lose something that we don't have yet and hold on, hold on,

[4:27:38] hold on, hold on, hold on, everything is on the record, I'll make sure it clear, because we

[4:27:42] get confusing information there. The question is raising assessment on the resident because

[4:27:49] of those two, if we're still looking for other revenues to other funding revenues there,

[4:27:57] Let's do that. But the point again all comes around the resident are we're going to increase the tax on them or keep it the same way. That's the issue right now.

[4:28:08] Everything else is not on my responsibility. I'm dealing. I'm voting on what I have right now right now is to

[4:28:14] To increase the assessment that was done. And I admit I said no, I don't want to increase. I want to keep it for now. Under the circumstances this one I was saying is talking about.

[4:28:24] So, now we're discussing different things there, so if we don't have them and this is not the issue, again, this is not the issue.

[4:28:34] The issue is, the issue is we have to increase or not increase.

[4:28:42] And I've ordered a man that we don't know if we don't have the money, why do we bring it here?

[4:28:48] Why are we discussing something we don't have the money?

[4:28:51] That means the project will not start. If we don't have the money.

[4:28:56] Okay, well think, okay, actually, when I'm asking, I'm going to ask that staff do a thorough work done before we presented here to the commission, because we're all in confusion.

[4:29:09] Because we're wasting a lot of time. I'd like to know option one, option two, option three.

[4:29:14] We vote with shoes, A, B, or C, but now we're spending on a time with these should have been done long time ago.

[4:29:24] Even during those budget presentation, these should have been done, whereas resident have the opposite expression itself there.

[4:29:30] And I'm going to say that again.

[4:29:32] Most of us were not present at this.

[4:29:34] And we have workshop, we have agenda review.

[4:29:37] Why don't we discuss the thing right now?

[4:29:39] I'm back to it.

[4:29:40] I'm just one book.

[4:29:41] May I?

[4:29:43] Okay.

[4:29:44] So we do have grant funding already secured for those projects.

[4:29:49] What does it even just saying in order to relieve the assessments, you know,

[4:29:56] or the burden on the fund, we're seeking additional...

[4:30:04] So we do have the funding in place, and we need to increase the assessment to fund the city's portion for that total cost of the two projects.

[4:30:14] So we do have that funding and secure it. We're looking for additional funding to see if we can remove the burden from the cost of the assessment.

[4:30:23] Okay, good. So it's good. Yeah, appreciate. So it goes back to what we discussed right now.

[4:30:29] Are we going to increase it or not increase it? I made it. I say for me, I made a motion there to keep the

[4:30:35] assessment the way it is for now under the circumstances. What we hear what it is. So it's all I've got a vote for

[4:30:41] yes. Oh, it is. On this someone is a man, the my amendment. That's all I'm asking for.

[4:30:46] Yes, our grants. No, we lose our grant. We can't lose something. We don't have.

[4:30:51] We do have, and then another thing, we can start the project if we don't have the complete funding.

[4:30:57] I understand.

[4:30:59] I understand.

[4:30:59] So with the grants, we need the assessments to cover the portion of the grant is not funding.

[4:31:06] But we do have.

[4:31:07] Okay.

[4:31:08] Go back to the same thing here.

[4:31:10] I meant it to keep an assessment.

[4:31:12] We vote on it unless we have another amendment.

[4:31:15] Okay, go ahead.

[4:31:16] Is there an amendment to my amendment?

[4:31:19] No, there was no.

[4:31:20] If it's not okay, we're going to vote on this one here.

[4:31:23] The vote is in.

[4:31:23] We meet somewhere in the middle.

[4:31:25] Where could we go to that middle ground to cover?

[4:31:28] I will win the middle of the vote.

[4:31:29] We're in the middle of the vote.

[4:31:32] We're going to vote.

[4:31:34] We started counting votes.

[4:31:35] Two people voted so far.

[4:31:38] Commissioner Martin voted now.

[4:31:39] Commissioner Lewis or Goods voted.

[4:31:44] Yes.

[4:31:45] Vice Mayor Booster Monte.

[4:31:47] Commissioner Lewis.

[4:31:48] No, I like to see someone in the middle.

[4:31:51] And Mayor Board.

[4:31:51] Yes. That's the three two of all. All right, this concludes this meeting and not meeting the

[4:32:03] boarding action there. And thank you everyone. So we will not proceed to item 5C

[4:32:11] imager of any comments please. Mr. Mayor, I have no budget comments for you.

[4:32:15] I'd like to comment. Thank you. Now, commission, we will not proceed to your comments. Any?

[4:32:22] Well, let's start with commissioner district A, please. Any comments?

[4:32:28] I just want some clarification after this meeting on a few things.

[4:32:33] I could sit with Mike, just make sure everything is good.

[4:32:36] Thank you everyone for coming out again. District A, I appreciate you guys.

[4:32:40] We definitely have a conflict commissioner.

[4:32:42] We'll soon, probably within the next few weeks, so we'll discuss a few things just coming up and I'll appreciate everyone coming out.

[4:32:50] Thank you.

[4:32:51] District B, please.

[4:32:54] Vice Mayor.

[4:33:01] Just thank everybody to come to this meeting and, God bless everyone.

[4:33:05] Thank you.

[4:33:06] District C, please.

[4:33:08] District C, this is your commission.

[4:33:09] Remember every second Tuesday, we are feeding our community at Highland Park.

[4:33:17] Thank you guys so much for your support.

[4:33:20] And thank you for your concern about tonight's budget meeting.

[4:33:23] I thank you for coming out as well.

[4:33:25] And just reiterate that we did lose 11 million in grant money.

[4:33:31] And I'll explain a little bit more

[4:33:32] that on my personal social media.

[4:33:35] And those of you that are with the information

[4:33:39] that is being spread on the North Lauderdale neighborhood page,

[4:33:46] please contact your district commissioner look on the city's page of a more accurate information

[4:33:56] because we don't want to be spreading wrong information and again, thank you so much.

[4:34:01] This is your commissioner, Regina Martin, District C.

[4:34:09] Hello, this is Commissioner Delo is Rick is one. We'd like to see you tomorrow when

[4:34:15] that, I mean, this is coming Wednesday. For tea time, a champion hall, 10, 30, 12.

[4:34:21] We look forward to seeing you there. On the Thursday, we would like you to come out to

[4:34:28] 10th Street at the Community Center, because we have them

[4:34:33] Broward Mobile Health Bus, and it's free for all, 18 years and over, full assessment, HIV testing,

[4:34:43] blood work, blood pressure coming, get yourself checked up, and three were still awaiting

[4:34:49] information from the Mobile Tribes Licent Center, so we'll know what time they'll be

[4:34:55] and the 14th of October you can call and have your driver's license.

[4:35:00] Thank you so much, and thanks to all the city staff that worked hard on the budget.

[4:35:05] Good night, everyone.

[4:35:07] Okay, thank you. Tonight was about conducting the discussion openly and just allow a reason to hear the same

[4:35:15] information that you're elected officials heard before this season. That's why we had moved it

[4:35:21] to the five o'clock PM instead of having two different things there.

[4:35:26] I know it's good to take some time.

[4:35:28] And then I responsible just to listen and ask question.

[4:35:34] Protect essential services that the resident need.

[4:35:38] And remember that every dollar, not just some dollar or every dollar

[4:35:42] that we spent, ultimately, will come from the people.

[4:35:48] And this is democracy.

[4:35:50] And we have to think about it in a way.

[4:35:52] But thank you very much for everybody for being here.

[4:35:55] Thank you, Commission.

[4:35:57] And the only things I'm going to ask to see the manager

[4:36:01] I think we mentioned that I'm returning from the resident.

[4:36:04] We need some information from that.

[4:36:07] On one of my conversations with the last week with,

[4:36:12] let me say it, it's still a assistant city manager.

[4:36:14] We didn't discuss that.

[4:36:16] The VAC truck usage, there's some requests

[4:36:20] and the community that we have purchased that item there and residents have not seen it

[4:36:26] in the street and based on some of them first we discussed I disagree with that because if we're

[4:36:34] using it only when it's when there's water what's the purpose we could list one or red one.

[4:36:41] I think the job for that I may be wrong but when we requested for a back truck it was to

[4:36:50] clean up all the how to call the drainage to prevent for prevention to make sure we don't have flood issues.

[4:37:01] So resident will correct the resident and we asked that was correct and asking where is the backdrop.

[4:37:07] And some cities have two.

[4:37:10] And if we're waiting for afters is flooded, what's the use of that?

[4:37:15] So we'd like to get the report, what do we do, what are we doing with the backdrop at this point?

[4:37:26] My follow up report on the 29th.

[4:37:31] That will be on, that's one of the items the follow up.

[4:37:33] Okay, okay, so let me ask you a purpose of buying as is to do what?

[4:37:39] To use five days a week, eight hours a day, so it should be used.

[4:37:44] And so we'll work with public works, we'll put the report together, and we'll come up with the schedule and how we can make it all so more visible when it's out on the road.

[4:37:54] And how long we have it? We just have it.

[4:37:58] We had this one, what about how long we have this one?

[4:38:02] About a year.

[4:38:03] About a year.

[4:38:04] We have another one as well.

[4:38:06] Right, but we have to one does so or one does a trade right, but but I just want to be clear because we're saying we

[4:38:14] Resonacy they haven't seen it day or night. I would buy things if you sit there and sit there and that's money

[4:38:21] And then

[4:38:22] Right now is raining a lot and in different places there were then I expect them to see what event where there's

[4:38:29] And we see it after hours, but that's not the point, we're doing there, make sure preventing

[4:38:37] that removing those clear.

[4:38:39] Those are the things, because at that time we bought it for as an urgent situation, emergency,

[4:38:45] and it's been a year, it's not been used.

[4:38:48] All right.

[4:38:48] We will get you a detailed report.

[4:38:50] Okay.

[4:38:51] Thank you.

[4:38:52] And if there's no, well, based on my agenda.

[4:39:01] You have a quick water control district.

[4:39:03] Right.

[4:39:03] Okay.

[4:39:04] The city clerk has no comments.

[4:39:05] I see attorney's no comment.

[4:39:07] I'd like to get a motion to adjourn this meeting, please.

[4:39:10] Motion to adjourn.

[4:39:12] Okay.

[4:39:12] Meeting as adjourn.

[4:39:13] Thank you.

[4:39:14] Immediately after that one there, we will

[4:39:17] convene to water control district is short meeting there.

[4:39:21] I'm going to pass it to.

[4:39:23] I didn't.

[4:39:24] I didn't.

[4:39:25] I didn't.

[4:39:29] I'm not in charge of it.

[4:39:30] No, it's commissioner of those words.

[4:39:34] And commissioner Martin is the vice president.

[4:39:37] No.

[4:39:38] We voted on that at the last.

[4:39:42] Chair. Chair.

[4:39:46] Do you have an agenda?

[4:39:49] You know what?

[4:39:51] Yeah.

[4:39:51] I can get it all right.

[4:39:53] I can get it all right.

[4:39:54] I can get it all right.

[4:39:55] We have another meeting.

[4:39:57] So we don't worry.

[4:40:24] We're going to call this meeting order.

[4:40:35] All right, we'll call this mean order, order and commissioner chamber.

[4:40:41] You call it roll call for us, please.

[4:40:43] Chair Lewis Brickett's chair.

[4:40:46] Vice chair Martin.

[4:40:49] Supervisor. Excuse me.

[4:40:51] Supervisor board.

[4:40:55] Supervisor board.

[4:40:59] I'm here. I'm sorry. I'm here. I'm here. Okay, sir.

[4:41:03] Five, sir, boost the Monday and supervisor.

[4:41:07] Supervisor, boost the Monday.

[4:41:09] Sit here. Yes.

[4:41:12] Supervisor, Lewis.

[4:41:14] Yeah, definitely.

[4:41:15] Administrator Buckrich.

[4:41:17] District Attorney Pam.

[4:41:19] Pamis.

[4:41:20] Yeah.

[4:41:20] And I am district secretary,

[4:41:21] salary, there's no approval minutes tonight so we'll go into other business.

[4:41:28] Yes, to go agreed item.

[4:41:34] As a motion at the North Florida deal water control district.

[4:41:41] Relating to the provision of water control and drainage services facilities and programs,

[4:41:47] the water management system within the geographical boundaries of the district

[4:41:51] is establishing the assessment rate of $200 for water management system

[4:41:55] assistance for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2026, approving, confirming and adopting

[4:42:02] the assessment role, approving the amended district budget for fiscal year 2026 to 2027

[4:42:08] to be adopted as part of the city's budget by the city commission, providing for conflict,

[4:42:14] providing for several ability and providing for an effective date.

[4:42:22] Good

[4:42:27] night.

[4:42:28] Good night.

[4:42:28] I'm going to introduce the budget manager to the

[4:42:30] Business presentation.

[4:42:31] Thank

[4:42:58] you.

[4:43:08] Good evening.

[4:43:10] Good evening.

[4:43:10] My name is Sharon Stewart, the budget manager.

[4:43:12] I'm here to present the water control district.

[4:43:15] Proposed budget for fiscal year 2027.

[4:43:18] So, the budget is $2,560,320, and what we have proposed in the budget in order to balance

[4:43:28] it is to increase the assessment to $200 per unit, which would generate $2,253,608.

[4:43:39] We have identified other revenues in the amount of $36,712, so to balance the budget without

[4:43:47] use an any fund balance. We are recommending the $200 per unit assessments. So it would bring

[4:43:56] the total revenues to $2,563,20 without using any fund balance. So this is one of the funds

[4:44:05] tonight that is considered structurally balanced because we are not using any revenues from our

[4:44:12] Fund balance to budget it so if it's past that's what it would be a structurally balanced budget

[4:44:18] In regards to the water control, what's really pressure in is that we have an equipment

[4:44:25] That's being requested $125,000 for the we do in addition

[4:44:31] We have the canal maintenance and also a grant match for that

[4:44:37] canel stabilization project which is a million dollars so the canal maintenance is a million

[4:44:44] the stabilization matches a million dollars along with the equipment so those are the items

[4:44:50] that's really driving the budget and that's what we refer to as the budgetary pressures in this

[4:44:55] fund and that presents the budget for.

[4:45:00] The water control district.

[4:45:03] It's open for public comment. No public comment. We offer motion.

[4:45:13] Motion to approve?

[4:45:14] Second.

[4:45:16] There was some any comments on this?

[4:45:22] Yes, yes.

[4:45:23] You recognize?

[4:45:26] Can you please clarify this?

[4:45:29] A $200 per unit.

[4:45:32] The difference between this and the one which is the previous meeting there.

[4:45:36] If you can explain that for the resident, please.

[4:45:39] The, um, the current versus the proposed 200, okay, bear with me a moment.

[4:45:56] And also clarify what is a unit too, but a unit could be an apartment building or a house.

[4:46:03] You know, just clarify that.

[4:46:06] Makes sense, clarify that.

[4:46:09] All right.

[4:46:10] So in regards to what the difference would be, so the current rate is that was adopted in

[4:46:18] 2026 is $95 per unit.

[4:46:23] So if we were to maintain that, we have a tax base of about 11,674 units at that $95 per unit.

[4:46:37] We would generate approximately just under a million dollars and then would have the additional other revenue sources that I mentioned of the 306.

[4:46:48] So in addition to not using any fund balance in order to balance this, we would need about 1.1 million dollars in the reserves from the reserve funding in order to be able to balance this budget.

[4:47:04] if that $200 is not approved.

[4:47:14] We're back to the same place.

[4:47:16] Our discussion earlier, there's different meetings,

[4:47:27] but other alternatives.

[4:47:31] The alternative is that we actually have that grant match,

[4:47:36] which we need to fund.

[4:47:38] So that's already a million dollars.

[4:47:39] That's off the top that we'd actually need to fund.

[4:47:42] And then the maintenance itself is projected

[4:47:45] to cost us a million dollars.

[4:47:48] So, primarily those are the two expenditures that are drive in this budget and those are the ones that we really need to find here.

[4:47:58] So, if we were to not approve the assessment then we're looking at digging into the reserves in order to be able to offset those because we do have to match.

[4:48:09] We do have to show that we have the match grant in order to be able to accept it and we have to budget that if we do.

[4:48:18] So,

[4:48:21] it goes from 95 to 200.

[4:48:23] 95 to 200 is the proposed, yes.

[4:48:29] And, and not everyone leaves in the canal.

[4:48:32] Everyone pays that in the city.

[4:48:36] Everyone pays yes, from that tax base, that's generated.

[4:48:40] I'm not so sure if, if the same reason that we're here earlier would understand that.

[4:48:45] I don't know if they understand it, they may not even know about it.

[4:48:50] They may not know about it, but it's actually represented in their trim notice that they

[4:48:55] do see that there is this expenditure that's proposed in the trim notice.

[4:49:00] So they are notified every year annually through their trim notice and also when they pay

[4:49:05] their tax bills they're seeing exactly what they're paying.

[4:49:10] During our presentation, during our time and whole meetings, we did two budgets, was it mentioned

[4:49:20] at all to the resident?

[4:49:23] At the water control?

[4:49:24] Yes.

[4:49:24] I'm sorry.

[4:49:25] Did you imagine?

[4:49:26] Yes.

[4:49:27] There were.

[4:49:30] Okay.

[4:49:31] So I know people know about the 200 earlier, but I don't think they don't understand at this

[4:49:35] point.

[4:49:35] If they did.

[4:49:36] I don't know.

[4:49:36] We do the answer because we've got some questions about the signalization of that, that's part of that topic.

[4:49:44] Okay. All right.

[4:50:02] Are you ready to go?

[4:50:07] Are you ready to go?

[4:50:09] Are you ready to go?

[4:50:10] So this 105 dollars is going to create a million, six hundred thousand dollars.

[4:50:20] Over that.

[4:50:22] It's a 200.

[4:50:24] So we're looking at it.

[4:50:25] It's from 95 to 200.

[4:50:27] If you're going to go with 105 on each property, that's over a million six hundred.

[4:50:36] Is that each property or each unit?

[4:50:39] Is that each unit?

[4:50:40] No, that's, I got a 15,000 and over 15,600 homes.

[4:50:48] So it's the tax base of the 11 properties in terms of 11,000,000.

[4:50:54] the four units that we can assess in the

[4:50:58] or what in the city of America.

[4:51:01] So, is it 11,000 units?

[4:51:02] 11,000, 674 units that we can assess times to 200.

[4:51:10] But you're counting with all the apartments?

[4:51:15] No, these are the units, yes, that's included, exactly.

[4:51:22] All right, I got a different number to the chair.

[4:51:28] Yeah, you recognize?

[4:51:30] The units, we have three units and four units and single family units.

[4:51:34] So the person that has a triplex, a triplex, pays the same 200?

[4:51:41] For the all three, our 200 per unit.

[4:51:44] Per unit, ABC.

[4:51:46] The way that it works, it would be per folio, right?

[4:51:50] So that's what it would be, essentially.

[4:51:55] Seriously, I mean, sure.

[4:51:57] Okay, so yes, they would, they would pay the same.

[4:52:01] So if it's three, it's just a unit.

[4:52:03] Whatever it's considered unit,

[4:52:05] so they would pay the same as the other person as well.

[4:52:08] So it's not looking at it separately

[4:52:11] as what you're thinking, but it's per unit.

[4:52:14] And that's how the numbers are driven.

[4:52:16] So the flicks two.

[4:52:18] The flicks industry?

[4:52:19] Yeah.

[4:52:20] So we'll be our sole, our sole.

[4:52:23] One house, babysitter.

[4:52:24] We'll be the first structure.

[4:52:26] Yes.

[4:52:26] A structure?

[4:52:28] It's an upper floor.

[4:52:29] The first sole, yeah.

[4:52:33] So we'll go five to get one.

[4:52:35] They turn it all with you and try to.

[4:52:37] Correct.

[4:52:40] That's 200.

[4:52:42] 200.

[4:52:42] Just 200.

[4:52:43] Okay.

[4:52:44] So each structure will be, each house will be.

[4:52:48] whether it's a triplex, duplex or a triplex?

[4:52:52] Um, to a chair?

[4:52:54] You're welcome.

[4:52:56] Who's the chair?

[4:52:57] I thought it was.

[4:52:58] On the acting.

[4:52:59] No, I'm not the chair.

[4:53:00] No, he, he's just not three.

[4:53:02] He's excited.

[4:53:03] Actually, the real chair is, is the chair the Louisville?

[4:53:09] Yeah, she decided that someone was a cover for her.

[4:53:12] Why not the vice chair?

[4:53:13] Oh, yeah.

[4:53:14] True.

[4:53:15] I got to give up my galvan.

[4:53:22] My question, is there any reason why we just jumped from 95 to 200?

[4:53:30] Okay.

[4:53:31] And like I said, many reason asking, why is it we don't have anything gradual or in between?

[4:53:36] Why do we go from step one to all the way in the scale 10 to 100?

[4:53:42] The same reason we're talking about that.

[4:53:43] to the chair.

[4:53:47] So the reason why we actually looked at 200 because as mentioned, we were looking for a structurally balanced budget here.

[4:53:56] We're not using any of our reserves to fund the operations within the water control district.

[4:54:02] So the 200 would give us that revenue so that we could just not have to use any reserves at all.

[4:54:09] So that was the premise of the $200 assessment versus any other.

[4:54:16] But I could identify some other ones if you'd like to hear,

[4:54:20] but that was the premise behind the $200 one

[4:54:23] is so that we could preserve the reserves that we have in this fund.

[4:54:27] So this would preserve the reserve and what

[4:54:34] any of the funds we're going into the reserve to rebuild the reserve are nothing

[4:54:39] we're going to be zeroed out.

[4:54:40] it would it would because we would not rely on any fund balance at all and then that would stay

[4:54:47] there to be able to fund and and build the reserves that's what you're talking about throughout

[4:54:52] the years. So the reserve that it would build is a water reserve for the water control district

[4:54:57] Not reserved.

[4:54:59] our...

[4:55:00] No, because this revenue is just to support the operations related to the water control district.

[4:55:06] It cannot be used for any other funding source at all, just the water control.

[4:55:13] All right. Thank you.

[4:55:14] To the chair again, if I can. Okay, and one of the is.

[4:55:18] To the chair. We just recognize, thank you.

[4:55:22] The question is, are the residents from Broadview exempted or did you pay that to?

[4:55:31] Yeah, they do.

[4:55:33] That's where you said Broadview is upon you.

[4:55:36] Everybody pays that.

[4:55:37] Right.

[4:55:40] So the only options, as you mentioned, is to not to use the reserve, but charge the resident.

[4:55:48] Well, there are more than one options,

[4:55:52] it's basically what the, um,

[4:55:54] was decided here tonight and what's voted on.

[4:55:57] Um, you could not use your reserves, right?

[4:56:00] Um, or you could propose maybe another,

[4:56:03] another, um, unit assessment that can also be done as well,

[4:56:08] or you could maintain current.

[4:56:10] So there, this is just the proposal here,

[4:56:12] and regards to what we came up with

[4:56:15] regards to the budgets so that we can maintain our fund balance. But of course this is not the

[4:56:21] end all beyond. There's opportunities to adjust it any way that you would all want to and vote on

[4:56:27] that tonight. My question is there any ever exhaustive other funding opportunities sources?

[4:56:34] Well, beside, beside, beside, spreading the adhesive resin. In order to fund this, we, we really cannot

[4:56:45] don't need to use like the general fund to be able to support this. So this is a specific

[4:56:53] budget that relates to the expenditures related to this. So this is how it's going to

[4:56:57] be funded in terms of just identifying the sources and be able to also find whatever expenditures

[4:57:05] that we have proposed for the next fiscal year.

[4:57:08] Right, but you have, I'm sorry, but you have not responded to and so my question. I said, have

[4:57:12] is as we again for other funding sources to fund it, not to pass this to a

[4:57:21] resident. The other fund and sources that right now we have that one million

[4:57:26] dollars grant that we're getting and we just have to match that. So that's a

[4:57:30] fund and source that's been identified separately from the assessment that the

[4:57:35] residents would face. Okay, well based based only I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not

[4:57:42] completely satisfied with this and I don't see if we cannot identify other sources

[4:57:47] I don't see how the same reason we keep asking and I'm sure most of you

[4:57:52] understood there would be stay here tonight to to try to see what can be done

[4:57:58] because it's like we're going to throw cut boom just like them I'm not in support of myself

[4:58:03] So, all right, thank you.

[4:58:05] To the chat.

[4:58:08] Okay, so the stabilization project is, you know,

[4:58:14] an upward six million.

[4:58:16] The general fund is already funding almost 4 million of it.

[4:58:20] The one who controlled district,

[4:58:22] ARPA is funding a part of it,

[4:58:24] or the general,

[4:58:27] the WCD's only paying a million of that six plus million.

[4:58:31] And so, you know, the other funding sources are general fund, which is covering almost 4 million of this project cost.

[4:58:41] All right.

[4:58:42] To the share.

[4:58:43] I'm not the chair.

[4:58:46] I just want to say something about the other series.

[4:58:52] Lot of the lot of hill.

[4:58:54] They're paying over 250, you know, they're paying for 251 dollars per year.

[4:58:58] But plantation is paying fifty one dollars a year. What is going on here?

[4:59:07] There's a bigger supply.

[4:59:08] More people.

[4:59:10] No, no.

[4:59:13] Fifty one dollars.

[4:59:15] For a year.

[4:59:18] Why is that?

[4:59:20] May I just add something else in regards because Mayor wanted to basically know that there is

[4:59:26] if we exhausted all our options, so I would just like to say that we were trying to ensure that we

[4:59:34] did not tap into our reserves, but we do have $3.4 million available in our reserves, that can

[4:59:42] be utilized to offset this expenditures as well. The only cities paying money, I mean, they're paying

[4:59:50] money than 200 dollars is a lot of health. Every other one, every other city, they're below

[4:59:56] 100 dollars.

[5:00:00] I mean, under $100.

[5:00:03] Thank you.

[5:00:04] And 3rd chair, 3rd chair. 3rd chair. 3rd chair.

[5:00:09] Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, thank you.

[5:00:12] My thing is, it's not that, you know, I'm not there to blame to think.

[5:00:16] The point is, have we done studies?

[5:00:20] Have we done, have we, if we present a competitive commission say, where we've done this

[5:00:25] It will be this all this completely besides cutting things there or charging the reason I'll be okay

[5:00:31] I'll see that but if if we have for me

[5:00:34] Now until I have I've seen this I would like to see it just like my family if if I'm if I tell my family or

[5:00:42] Something okay, we we showed this we showed that we have to this but I got to tell them

[5:00:48] What other revenues that we'll find what are the things I'm doing there to bring some revenue there

[5:00:54] What if what if it is in the house we need to sell or borrow do something there when we exhaust everything there the only thing we have to do because we need it

[5:01:06] We're gonna have to yeah, I'm gonna have to hit everybody

[5:01:11] Pitch in so we can do but in this case is the same thing the same residence. We talk all those assessment talk about tonight

[5:01:19] And then in on top we can explain to them

[5:01:22] why we need it but all they need to care where I'm going to find that money and that's all it is

[5:01:28] and then if we're going to look one area should look at every area every possibility to find that

[5:01:36] not to pass it on them that's where I'm at that's all that's what I'm there so again

[5:01:45] That I'm chair, if I can just quickly.

[5:01:48] And so Commissioner, the reason why we need to move off in the $95 amount is mainly because

[5:01:57] of the stabilization project.

[5:02:01] So we've used all of the ARPA money, or we've used all of the ARPA money by the end of December,

[5:02:06] we'll have used what the general funds contributed, and we have a little bit of work left

[5:02:10] to do to finish the, you know, the, all the square feet or the linear feet that the commission

[5:02:15] had directed to be done. And so that's the reason why we need to move off of the 95.

[5:02:20] We historically, this has historically always been a low assessment and hasn't increased.

[5:02:27] Commissioner Louis asked earlier, or someone asked earlier if this was, you know, if the assessments

[5:02:33] once they're set as always where it needs to be, this would probably fluctuate because we're

[5:02:38] to stabilize canals every year, right? We're going to stabilize them, and then that system is

[5:02:44] supposed to end. To maybe some additional ones we need to do down the road, but as the budget

[5:02:50] manager said, there is a reserve that you can use. So if you want to do, if you want to go in

[5:02:56] the middle somewhere, you can, if not, there is a reserve that will cover this cost, and you can

[5:03:02] at the 95. It's what again, it's what the board wants to do and you may want to give them a

[5:03:11] little bit on the project information. I'm not part of the board but I just want to help

[5:03:17] us move this.

[5:03:25] Okay, so the Canal Stabilization Project, this schedule ended December.

[5:03:30] There's still portions that need to be repaired. In addition, when you have to look at

[5:03:36] see walls or some rocks to stabilize on the areas where the current

[5:03:40] problem method is not going to work. So this is why we need to increase the funds

[5:03:45] so we can build up our reserves to address those in areas.

[5:03:49] Do you want to share the question?

[5:03:51] Yeah, I'm very surprised. How many can now all the can now is going to be a dress

[5:03:59] Stabilize everything by December

[5:04:02] We're going to have approximately

[5:04:05] I want to see 20 areas of canals that are going to be addressed

[5:04:08] But your areas where this method that we're using of the bags are not going to work because there's drop offs and we're going to probably need sea walls

[5:04:15] Or we need to put those big boulders to reinforce the back. Okay. All right. That's the first part of question if not all of them not all 30 can now is when they'll be do that again

[5:04:26] Everybody in the city will be

[5:04:30] would pay at assessment, how far is it? Because those words say, well, why should I

[5:04:35] pay? Why am I paying for something that is not even touching my area?

[5:04:39] My cannot behind me. So that's the logic I'm saying. So in the second reason, the second

[5:04:43] thing, if the phone is just for that or to address this can now. So at what point will

[5:04:50] if we do not have any other revenues? At what point, why are we keeping the reserve for?

[5:04:56] That's what I'm saying.

[5:05:00] If it was said for that. So there's ongoing maintenance for the canals. So we are looking to also purchase

[5:05:06] a we do and then next fiscal, fiscal after next is to get a harrister to get the weeds out of the canals.

[5:05:14] Right. We have to make sure that water flows. If we don't take get the weeds out of the canals, it was not going to flow, flow is going to come out of the canals.

[5:05:21] I got that. I got that. I got that. Sorry, I got it, but it's just that I'm trying to figure that. If not all the canals going to be repaired or

[5:05:29] stabilize at this point, those who are not who's area are not being repaired, why are they

[5:05:36] paying, they're going to ask why am I paying for something that's, it's not in my background.

[5:05:41] So point, it's going to appear. That's me up here.

[5:05:44] Okay,

[5:05:47] all right,

[5:05:50] quick question. How many can I have we got left that hadn't been done

[5:05:56] is it? Roughly. I see probably maybe 9 or 10 that we're done yet. What would be the turnaround

[5:06:05] time for doing those? If those are the ones that I'm not going to have the bugs and they need

[5:06:10] to have the walk, that's going to take a longer time, putting up walls and instead of putting

[5:06:15] sun bugs down. Well, the duty assessment, once the project is completed in December,

[5:06:21] then we'll do an assessment of the remaining areas. There are other areas where there's sea walls

[5:06:25] following a part that would also need to be addressed.

[5:06:28] Okay, so that's after December.

[5:06:33] So we have to budget for that.

[5:06:36] In future.

[5:06:38] So we're just going to leave those sea walls for the time being till we can budget for it.

[5:06:43] Well, till we do the assessment and then we figure out a small part of what we need to budget for it.

[5:06:49] So there's nothing going into the future budget for this, for the assessment of the sea wall

[5:06:56] not this fiscal. All right. So that's going to be a need. Yeah. Correct. Okay. I mean I understand that.

[5:07:04] But you do in the worst ones first. Like that lady's house that was sinking. Right. Right. So we're just

[5:07:10] saying that, you know, because we had those grand funds and we use this method to get as much

[5:07:16] back for a book. So thank you. Okay. Thank you. For the record to the chair for the record. Okay.

[5:07:23] Vice Mayor comes with some numbers like I would like you know he's just

[5:07:31] say something about the the lowest the lowest number in around you know

[5:07:37] on all these cities around it's part gun part gun 737 dollars a year.

[5:07:46] I don't know why

[5:07:48] I was freezing those numbers, water controlled district is every and every city the same, I think, you know, I don't know, I don't know what the differences are from our city.

[5:08:02] Let's see these.

[5:08:03] Let's do a budget.

[5:08:07] Let's do a budget.

[5:08:09] I

[5:08:14] mean, that's what they're paying.

[5:08:19] So, sir, it all depends on the size of the city and the amount of canals they have.

[5:08:26] Any projects they might have going on.

[5:08:28] So, Parkland would have too many projects going on, whereas, you know, we...

[5:08:32] One point of vision is fifty-one dollars.

[5:08:39] And one point of vision is they have a lot of can have a bigger city, we're revenue

[5:08:44] sir.

[5:08:46] Well, both, they're getting no money, that's what you're doing, but I don't know.

[5:08:53] So we got to go to Texas to leave, I guess, where we have nothing, so he's there.

[5:09:02] I think that's what they were there at all.

[5:09:06] Because this is very, very seriously,

[5:09:08] because a lot of people they, I can't see that

[5:09:10] that little residents are complaining about that.

[5:09:13] Now, so to keep in mind,

[5:09:15] keep in mind, we were at $100 a year ago,

[5:09:18] and then it was reduced to 95 last fiscal.

[5:09:22] So we've been reducing it.

[5:09:24] So that's another reason why we need to

[5:09:26] build it back up to build our reserves,

[5:09:28] to address any issues that come up.

[5:09:32] Well, I have a resident with his pain 13,000 dollars and I mean 12,000 dollars in taxes on his property and his property is probably 400,000 dollars right now and imagine 200 here 300 there 500 over there and it's going to be more money on taxes.

[5:09:55] Yeah.

[5:09:56] And then...

[5:09:57] Well, then...

[5:09:58] Keep it up.

[5:10:02] Question.

[5:10:04] Question.

[5:10:06] So, where?

[5:10:07] And further questions.

[5:10:16] The.

[5:10:18] Because I say someone just to chair.

[5:10:21] The motion that's on the floor is to.

[5:10:24] Keep the rate, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

[5:10:26] make the rate to suggest it amount.

[5:10:28] And it was motion in a second.

[5:10:29] I just want to make sure we know that.

[5:10:31] Yeah, but that's what we did earlier.

[5:10:33] Yeah, it's on the floor, correct?

[5:10:35] That's what I'm just wondering.

[5:10:37] You know, I was a chair at that time.

[5:10:39] So then, we hit a motion.

[5:10:42] You know, we have a motion.

[5:10:44] We have a motion.

[5:10:44] We have a motion in a second.

[5:10:46] I read a second.

[5:10:48] The motion in a second.

[5:10:49] That was on the floor was two.

[5:10:53] Keep it 200.

[5:10:57] Keep it 200.

[5:10:57] Keep it at 95.

[5:11:00] Or is it a motion to approve the 200?

[5:11:03] There was a motion to approve the motion as red and the motion is to, it would go to 200.

[5:11:09] So if you want to change that, are you going to do anything?

[5:11:16] The motion is to keep the rate at 95.

[5:11:22] No, it was just to keep the proposed proposal.

[5:11:25] The proposal at 200?

[5:11:26] Yes. Yes. What the resolution.

[5:11:28] What the resolution.

[5:11:31] That was the motion made by Vice Mayor and seconded by you.

[5:11:35] Come.

[5:11:40] So that's it? You want me to?

[5:11:42] You can vote. I don't know.

[5:11:44] Oh yes.

[5:11:44] Oh no.

[5:11:45] Yes.

[5:11:46] No.

[5:11:47] Or maybe so.

[5:11:49] That's no.

[5:11:51] Okay.

[5:11:54] So I call the wrong.

[5:11:55] Yes, please.

[5:11:58] Supervisor Martin. So is it the key as 100? Yes, yeah, 200. Okay, so no

[5:12:05] Supervisor Borgeland. No

[5:12:10] Supervisor Bustamote. No

[5:12:14] Supervisor Lewis.

[5:12:20] Yes, chair Lewis records. No

[5:12:24] So it does not pass

[5:12:27] So now we need to operate there needs to be another motion.

[5:12:34] I'll say this.

[5:12:36] There was a motion to have this rate.

[5:12:41] That was $200.

[5:12:47] Is there another motion to set a different rate?

[5:12:51] To the chair.

[5:12:53] The motion is what?

[5:12:54] Do you have a motion for a different rate of $100,000?

[5:13:00] $100,000.

[5:13:04] My motion will be to raise only up to $100.

[5:13:09] I mean, from $95 to $100, $500 more.

[5:13:15] Any other one thing?

[5:13:18] I need a second.

[5:13:19] If not, it doesn't matter.

[5:13:21] A second for $95 to $100.

[5:13:25] That's what?

[5:13:26] Based on what we discussed tonight again.

[5:13:28] Basically, I don't mind, but it's just jumping to 200. I'm 95, I go. My purpose is to 105,000 more.

[5:13:38] Did you get a second?

[5:13:40] It's a new rate.

[5:13:43] It's failed for lack of a second.

[5:13:46] I hope it's dead.

[5:13:48] What are the 150?

[5:13:54] Second.

[5:13:58] Since you have the second, you're going to do the vocal.

[5:14:03] Supervisor Barton?

[5:14:04] Vice Chair Martin?

[5:14:06] Yes.

[5:14:07] Supervisor Boorjalan?

[5:14:08] No.

[5:14:11] Supervisor Booster Monte?

[5:14:13] No.

[5:14:14] Supervisor Lewis?

[5:14:17] Yes.

[5:14:19] And Chair Lewis forgets.

[5:14:20] No.

[5:14:21] That does not pass either.

[5:14:24] So we need to ignore it.

[5:14:25] We need another rate.

[5:14:26] So 125?

[5:14:28] Second.

[5:14:33] Vice Chair Martin?

[5:14:35] Yes.

[5:14:36] Supervisor Borginal?

[5:14:38] No.

[5:14:39] Supervisor Booster Montet?

[5:14:41] No, I can't.

[5:14:43] Supervisor Lewis?

[5:14:44] Yes.

[5:14:45] No.

[5:14:46] And Lewis Rickett?

[5:14:48] Lewis Rickett?

[5:14:49] No.

[5:14:51] Lewis Rickett?

[5:14:52] Supervisor Lewis Rickett?

[5:14:54] No.

[5:14:55] That does not pass either.

[5:14:58] We do, right?

[5:15:00] 1, 20.

[5:15:02] Second.

[5:15:09] Yes.

[5:15:12] Vice chair Martin? Yes.

[5:15:15] Supervisor Boardulant?

[5:15:16] No.

[5:15:18] Supervisor Boost Monten.

[5:15:22] Supervisor Lewis? Yes.

[5:15:25] And chair Lewis Rickett? Yes.

[5:15:28] So you voted just so that is 3 to 2?

[5:15:32] So that one passed.

[5:15:33] And chair will be voted.

[5:15:44] There's no other business so you can adjourn the meeting.

[5:15:47] All right.

[5:15:48] No, the business.

[5:15:49] No.

[5:15:50] You can adjourn.

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