[2:15] She's ready. All right, let's, uh, morning everybody, uh, rise with me, if you like, for Pastor John Biggs from, say, by Grace Lutheran Church. Oh,

[2:30] I'm sorry.

[2:34] Good morning commissioners. And thank you for having me here today.

[2:40] A word from Romans chapter 12. All rights hate. What is evil? Clean to what is good. Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves. Share with those who are in need.

[2:56] need, practice, hospitality. Do not repay anyone evil for evil but respect what is right in

[3:04] the eyes of everyone, and if it is possible as far as it depends on you, live it peace

[3:11] with everyone. Word of the Lord. Thanks be to God.

[3:17] Let us pray.

[3:20] Almighty God you have called us the labor in this world for you and for our neighbor, and

[3:25] And without you, we can do nothing.

[3:27] And so we ask you today for your wisdom, discernment, and guidance, both for our nigh-county commissioners

[3:33] as well as for all those who are gathered here today.

[3:37] So give our commissioners clear minds, listening ears, and fair hearts as they make decisions

[3:43] affecting our county's budget infrastructure and daily well-being, grant them humility and

[3:49] a deep sense of service to the people they represent.

[3:51] and by your spirit grant every person who has come here today wisdom in their

[3:56] thinking grace in their attitudes and above all love and courage in their

[4:01] convictions. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you pastor. All right we're

[4:09] gonna call this joint meeting of the Night County Board of County Commissioners

[4:12] at all together. Commissioner Coney, would you like to lead us to

[4:20] the flag of the

[4:24] Just a very public for which it stands, one nation under that, invisible.

[4:33] Thank you.

[4:39] All right, do we have our DA and tone up all?

[4:45] Yes.

[4:46] Morning, Bryant.

[4:47] Hey, can we limit public comment to two minutes please?

[4:51] At your discretion.

[4:53] Thank you.

[4:53] Two minute public comment.

[4:55] Number two please.

[5:00] Item two, general public comment, up to two-minute time limit per person. Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item. Thank you very much for that. Come on down, Mr. Pittman, and it is not functioning today, but it will be next meeting.

[5:29] Stephen Pittman, PIT, MN, now that the Department of Environmental Protection has given a green light to many waste, will you deny building occupancy and operating permits?

[5:42] Who does the inspection of waste to ensure that it does not include prohibited items specified on pages three and four of the permit fact sheet?

[5:50] There is yet no end-depth approved plan for the disposal of residue ash in Nevada.

[5:56] How will the exhaust from the process be monitored and by whom?

[6:01] And prompt Valley Fire effectively respond to a fire at the facility.

[6:05] The chief just told me that he has to revisit the facility to see that it is in compliance.

[6:11] This is not the kind of industry where up needs.

[6:14] My second item is, why does Commissioner Bain use a personal Gmail account when the other commissioners use the official at NyeCountyNV.gov account?

[6:25] that are archived on county servers.

[6:28] Thank you.

[6:29] Thank you, sir.

[6:30] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[6:35] Yes, Chair.

[6:36] The caller is unmuted.

[6:37] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[6:42] Oh, yes, Amy Nelson.

[6:43] Any L, S, O, N, a couple of things.

[6:48] We attend to items, people that are familiar with what's going on.

[6:55] And even those that are have a tough time reading

[6:58] I mean, what these items are about, it might be the best thing to do is to inform the public

[7:07] what they're about, basically, in a sort of format.

[7:14] The other thing is public comment, I was going to ask if he would put it back to five minutes,

[7:22] But I now realize that it doesn't matter that we have public comment, and you would

[7:29] do away with it altogether if you could, and that's unfortunate.

[7:34] We have a good meeting.

[7:35] Thank you.

[7:36] Come on down in front, please.

[7:39] Good morning, commissioners, and everybody, Beth Boersevich, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

[7:45] I'm really happy to be here.

[7:47] I haven't been here but I have been working really hard behind the scenes.

[7:54] You know the dirt racetrack that's up on Basin, people were interested in having that

[8:00] renovated, however the land has been sold and so it's not available.

[8:05] So I've already put together a prospectus investments.

[8:09] You name it.

[8:09] I've got like a 45 page document that I'd like to talk to somebody on the commission here.

[8:16] so that we can find some land away from homes, not at the fairgrounds for one of these race tracks.

[8:24] It would be a very good income-producing activity for the town, not only in RVs,

[8:31] but in going to the stores and, you know, charges for getting into the races.

[8:36] So I think that's like a high priority you should put on your list of income-producing activities.

[8:42] The splash pad is a total disgust, have you guys seen the cease and desist order?

[8:51] You have.

[8:52] You've not shared it with the county, well, I'll be getting a copy tomorrow now, be

[8:55] sharing it with everybody.

[8:58] We want to talk to somebody about what we're going to do about this.

[9:02] It is the town's money and Mr. Martinez in his group screwed up royally.

[9:09] We need to fix that big time.

[9:13] MetaWaste, you know, was approved.

[9:15] I've got forms available for people that might want to fill it out and mail it in with

[9:21] potential suggestions on how to fill in all of the different form areas.

[9:26] And I've also got the original approval letter that must go with your complaint.

[9:32] So I've been busy and I'll be around a lot again, so don't get mad at me, but I'll

[9:39] I'll be here.

[9:40] Thanks.

[9:41] Welcome back.

[9:42] And I agree with you.

[9:43] Thank you, I have a joint here in Tonopos please.

[9:46] Hi, Mr. DeVore.

[9:46] Yes, I see her smiling face.

[9:48] Go ahead, Ms. Jony.

[9:50] Thank you.

[9:51] Thank you.

[9:52] I appreciate the opportunity.

[9:54] The old Tonopos cemetery was in use between 1901 and 1911 in Tonopos.

[10:00] All right, thank you very, very early days until the West End mining company needed to move through that area with its tailings. And included in the burials in that cemetery besides minors and prostitutes, gunfighters, men, women and children are many veterans, more than 20 veterans of the American Civil War, the Spanish American War and the Philippine insurrection.

[10:26] I worked with the senator Edward D Baker, camp 31, sons of the union veterans of the civil

[10:34] war in Las Vegas and we ordered headstones through the veterans administration which is

[10:41] free for nine of those veterans of these wars.

[10:46] We are going to be dedicating those headstones and the reenactors will be coming up from Las

[10:52] Vegas at one o'clock on September 6th. That's a Sunday, and we're going to hold a formal

[10:59] dedication of those headstones, and we'll even have cannons there to set off to commemorate

[11:09] this event. Afterwards, there will be a reception at the Tonapa Elk's Lodge. This is just an invitation

[11:15] for anybody who would like to participate. Thank you.

[11:18] Thank you, Joni, and very nice to see you.

[11:20] Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

[11:23] Yes, chair.

[11:23] The caller is unmuted.

[11:24] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[11:33] I'm on dial miss Hertz.

[11:38] Good morning, Susie Hertz, H-E-R-T-Z.

[11:42] I would like, if you would, please, in your comment section this morning to answer to us,

[11:50] who's the person who decides how many minutes the public has to speak and how that's decided.

[11:59] I think we'd all like to know that having just sprung two minute limitations on us this morning without warning.

[12:09] Secondly, in that comment section, I would appreciate it if you would reinstate your affirming

[12:19] statements and actions that meta-waste is not in a position to open a facility here

[12:30] in Perump as has been discussed in the past and whether or not you're going to write

[12:36] a letter of protest to the Environmental Protection State Agency about it.

[12:43] As you know, we citizens are absolutely not in favor, absolutely against.

[12:50] Metaways coming into this community, and I would hope that you continue to make sure

[12:56] that doesn't happen.

[12:59] Also, I would like to comment and reaffirm the fact that we know that we have limited

[13:12] limited water resources in our water basin.

[13:17] And I would seriously like to know why the RPC is allowed to and doesn't have any kind

[13:26] of direction or limitation regarding approval of massive housing projects and massive industrial

[13:36] projects in our base and these requests keep coming through.

[13:42] Thank you.

[13:44] Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

[13:47] Yes, Chair.

[13:47] The caller is unmuted.

[13:48] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[13:54] Yes.

[13:54] My Patricia Bravo, the RLBB regarding the utility challenge lot.

[14:00] The problem seems to be stagnant when risk analysis becomes risk paralysis because possible

[14:08] solutions that don't further impact our aquifer or burden other taxpayers are rejected

[14:15] over what could go wrong progress does not happen.

[14:19] So instead of thinking what if something goes wrong maybe you should be asking how can

[14:25] we make this work safely for these owners based on our interactions with the board over the

[14:32] last year and a half, I'm not sensing that alternatives are genuinely being considered.

[14:41] It feels more like they're continually being pushed aside, yet our entire community could

[14:48] benefit from supplemental alternatives, not just utility-challenge-lot owners.

[14:54] We're not saying alternatives are better than conventional utilities, but they do

[15:00] We will offer a pathway forward where utility infrastructure may not exist in our lifetime if ever. And saying it to go wrong isn't really a standard. Conventional systems can go wrong, too. Welles can become contaminated and septic systems can fail. Yet government doesn't normally say because somebody failed to maintain something, nobody can use it.

[15:24] So, are we evaluating alternatives against objective health and safety standards or against

[15:31] belief that conventional utilities are the only acceptable way to meet those standards.

[15:38] When alternatives can meet them too, having supplemental water back at should simply be

[15:44] common sense for everyone.

[15:46] We've identified the problems, proposed safeguards, drafted amendments, ordinances, provided justification

[15:52] and identified supporting state laws.

[15:55] Now we're here to move forward.

[15:58] Hello, and from, go ahead.

[15:59] Why two minutes?

[16:02] Good morning.

[16:03] Cheryl Varkellis, VIA's Invictor, ARKA-LIS.

[16:08] On behalf of Perump, please submit an appeal

[16:10] to the Nevada Department of Environmental Protection

[16:13] to oppose the meta-waste.

[16:15] Time is of the essence, and appeals are

[16:16] due by September the 10th.

[16:18] The middle of Perump is not the place

[16:20] for this facility that will burn 41 tons a day. They changed that number. In their

[16:26] comment document that was sent out on August 31st and we haven't had a lot of time to review it,

[16:33] it was originally 16.8. They stated that they corrected an error. So the number has doubled,

[16:40] almost doubled in half, okay? So somebody needs to look at that please.

[16:45] Under the people attended and spoke at the Nevada Treasures on July the 7th.

[16:51] The meeting room was packed, it was a ballroom, and everyone there except for the folks

[16:56] from Medowaste were in an opposition.

[17:00] But they approved, end up approved it despite 334 public comments, that's their number.

[17:07] They improperly executed mandatory procedural requirements under NAC 444.6419.

[17:16] We have to have a legal basis and that is one of them.

[17:19] They failed to properly document published or logically factor substantial public feedback

[17:24] into the final decision.

[17:27] They admitted in their response, it simply states, quote, given the volume of comments received

[17:34] 334 submissions. The division is prepared to consolidate a response in lieu of individual

[17:41] responses to each submission comments are grouped by subject matter.

[17:47] And I quote from

[17:48] their response comments concerning air quality, county land use approvals, transportation,

[17:55] property values, or other matters outside the division's authority are only acknowledged.

[18:00] Last time I checked air quality is an in-depth environmental protection issue.

[18:05] Thank you very much, ma'am.

[18:06] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[18:09] Yes, chair of the Collarance Unmuted, please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[18:16] Excuse me.

[18:17] This is Paula Thompson, CHOMPSOM, I also would like to know if the board will be submitting

[18:24] appeal to oppose the med waste plant in Toronto.

[18:28] our community is not a dumping ground for California but California deal with

[18:33] their own medical waste on their own land and leave us alone. Thank you.

[18:38] Thank you. Come on down, ma'am.

[18:43] Sharon Cruz, normally I would say-

[18:45] Excuse me, can you spell it for the record?

[18:47] Sorry, C-R-U-I-S-E.

[18:49] Thank you.

[18:50] Normally I'd say good morning, however, this is not a good morning for the

[18:53] residents. Yes, today as you all know, the Department of Environmental Protection

[18:57] granted many ways they're permit to function here.

[19:00] So I employ all of you to keep the residents of Perum safe by taking immediate action to stop many ways from operating in our town.

[19:11] The action of MDEP is outrageous. It's an outrageous disregard for the safety and well-being of those of us living in Perum.

[19:20] They will send daily multiple 53-foot tractor trailers with toxic medical ways from California,

[19:29] traveling on out two major roadways, Route 372, with two roundabouts, and Route 160, which is the

[19:37] center of town. Not if, but when there is an accident causing toxic medical waste to spill on

[19:43] our roadways, they will shut out town down, causing catastrophic damage to the health and safety

[19:49] of the route residents. Just a couple of items that it will cause regarding public health.

[19:55] Exposing...

[19:57] Um...

[19:59] High...

[20:00] The infection viruses, like HIV, hepatitis B and C, exposing pathogens that are airborne,

[20:08] that lead to severe outbreaks of tuberculosis, gastrointestinal infections, and respiratory illnesses.

[20:15] Not to mention the contamination based on 62, our only source of water. Due to untreated

[20:29] downward resulting in our entire water infrastructure being permanently corrupted.

[20:36] Byachie Flores has already stated that his department does not have the capacity to handle

[20:41] a hazardous water spill.

[20:44] By the way, the additional...

[20:46] Thank you very much, ma'am.

[20:47] That's okay.

[20:47] I'll leave the rest for...

[20:49] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[20:50] You can leave it with Serena if you'd like.

[20:53] Yes, chair.

[20:54] The caller is unmuted.

[20:55] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[20:56] Good

[21:01] morning, commissioners, Lorraine, G-I-L-B-E-R-G, once again, I am sorry I'm not Erin

[21:07] Ferguson.

[21:09] I am sending you good energy, solid knowledge to make decisions that matter and make a

[21:17] difference on behalf of those that you represent.

[21:21] I would also just ask you to please not forget those that have been forgotten for the last

[21:28] 50 years, the utility challenge law owners. Some of you will be leaving this board of county

[21:35] commissioners at the end of this year. Let that be your legacy that you finally brought

[21:41] restitution and peace and restored value. I know that the Harump Regional Planning Commission

[21:50] was working on a off-grid overlay. I would encourage you to continue to work with them.

[21:58] It does matter, and it makes a difference to 7,000 lives.

[22:03] In addition, the meta-based, I am just a call how that was brought forward when I was

[22:13] at that meeting at Treasurer, and it was overwhelming the number of people that said,

[22:19] no.

[22:19] I'm not saying that medical waste isn't needed, but not in the location where it is going

[22:26] and I do not want to drive my car to DMV

[22:31] to renew my tech to have to breathe in that stuff.

[22:35] I don't want to shop at Albertton's,

[22:37] just down the street and it has to breathe that in.

[22:41] I don't want to go to one of my favorite restaurants

[22:43] or cafes or visit shops that I shop in that area.

[22:49] It is just not a safe venture for us.

[22:53] And I would hope that you would use your power

[22:56] and your authority to report that decision on those permits.

[23:04] Thank you, Lorraine.

[23:05] I ask you.

[23:07] Come on down, Diane.

[23:12] Diane, South-Earth S-O-U-T-H-W-O-R-T-H.

[23:17] For a little levity, I saw on Facebook where we want to make September 25th, Dolly Parton Day.

[23:24] And I think it's a great idea.

[23:26] And, of course, the reason is the date 925.

[23:31] Now, also I'd like to bring up, that's my good news.

[23:36] The bad news is that the executive order is that the president is

[23:40] putting out voting about vote by mail and the SAVE Act.

[23:44] Our unconstitutional, it is up to the states to do their elections.

[23:50] And these are unconstitutional rules.

[23:52] I have said here many times and listen to people wave their constitutions around over other things.

[23:58] I'd like to see him get out of that one. Thank you.

[24:02] Thank you, Diane. Say I'm anybody on the phone, please.

[24:06] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[24:14] Yes, Kimbos, VOHA and NOM.

[24:17] I'm concerned that there seems to be a reducing or cut back of public comment.

[24:25] There's a couple of situations on today that there will be a cutback of public comment and some not allowed.

[24:34] So, the people need to be able to have voice.

[24:38] Even if it seems trivial, even if it seems all face, we have to have voice.

[24:45] And that's what we count on.

[24:47] Candidates, attention to it.

[24:49] Thank you.

[24:50] Thank you.

[24:51] come on down please improve.

[24:55] You're a lackey LACKY? The problem that we have here that you can-

[25:00] So what you guys have is, it's the manufactured homes. The people that live in the manufactured homes, that's your problem. See, they're not that taxed, you know, not like the big houses with the, with a ceramic tile roof and the, and the block walls. And they're going to be tax forever every single time. But there also, also all the developments are all on the infrastructure so that it could be easily piped in from water from, say, Clark County or something like that. Later on, after our waters,

[25:29] bad gone dead, killing everybody from your waste, the stuff that you're bringing in, you're

[25:36] bringing it in, and you're trying to chase out the people that don't have a lot of money.

[25:41] That's what it is.

[25:42] I mean, it's all about the money.

[25:45] Your whole lives are just leaching off other people, working for government, not doing anything

[25:50] good, just bringing in more bad, taking the money from the bad elements and just producing

[25:56] it, whatever, whatever trickles down from above, nothing happened to do with the people.

[26:01] And God we trust right behind you. Good thing it's behind you. Something would fall on

[26:05] your head. If you were facing up, praise all day. But you know, here we are, you know, it's

[26:12] all about the water. So now once the water's bad, all the money making properties for you

[26:18] guys are all going to be easily fed from a pipe from somewhere else because they're already

[26:21] tied together. They're already on a system. You know that. That's why you got them come

[26:26] together. You don't see them all spread out once in a while you'll see another

[26:31] development like the one right behind. Well it's all about the water. Well for you

[26:37] guys it's all about getting the people out of here living manufactured homes. I

[26:42] think that's what your mission is pretty clear. How much money you get from one of

[26:47] those properties got a manufactured home on it of some sort. You don't get much

[26:52] tax money for those properties as you do for the ones with the block walls.

[26:56] Thanks, Carol.

[26:57] Say I'm anybody on the phone, please.

[27:01] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[27:02] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[27:06] Excuse me.

[27:08] All right.

[27:09] She can leave.

[27:17] And Chair, the caller is not unmuted.

[27:19] I'm having a system issue, so I'm going to take.

[27:21] Okay, come on down, please.

[27:23] Thank you.

[27:26] Good morning, commissioners.

[27:28] My name is Mary Rose.

[27:29] Last name is Parkman.

[27:31] Spelled P-A-R-K-N-A-N.

[27:36] It's a little bit of a tough act to follow, so let me start off with something.

[27:42] There's a Greek philosopher that once said, we have two ears and one mouth.

[27:47] That means to please listen twice as much as we speak.

[27:52] And ironically, here I am speaking, but I'm asking you to listen, please.

[27:57] And my concern is I understand in the instances of August 18, when there were 203 comments

[28:06] between in-person and calls.

[28:09] And I know that there's a budget expectation when that many more calls come in.

[28:15] But why is it necessary for the BOCC to announce two minutes or so into the start of a meeting

[28:23] or maybe 10.05 a.m., that the comments are reduced to two minutes when you can tell.

[28:31] We don't have 200 people at capacity, so that is a concern.

[28:37] As to meta-waste, I don't need to repeat too much, but I would implore the community and

[28:45] BOCC to reach out to Assemblyman Hathen, but I've been told, this is a state issue, not

[28:51] the county issue, which I entirely disagree.

[28:54] So I think we need to do the same as there were three almost 400 people at the Treasurer's Town Hall which was a very big appeal to Nevada Department of Environmental Protection.

[29:07] So for those reasons, I appreciate you listening twice as much, even though I'm speaking with one mouth.

[29:14] I represent a lot of others.

[29:15] Thank you.

[29:16] Thank you, ma'am.

[29:17] Say I'm anybody on the phone, please.

[29:21] I'm still out of places.

[29:22] Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead, in front, please.

[29:28] Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON.

[29:32] I was a little late coming in, so I was not aware of the two-minute reduction again.

[29:36] I don't know what the excuse can be for that, but this time,

[29:40] besides you guys trying to silence us even more.

[29:43] Starting with that, again, I'm requesting for Mrs. Strickling to recuse herself

[29:46] from any and all matters regarding utility companies or data centers.

[29:52] Next, the Medi-based.

[29:55] How in the world did the planning commission...

[30:00] I would like to begin with a blank check to build whatever they wanted on that site. No

[30:07] inquisition onto what it's entailed, what hazards could be, nothing. And then this board

[30:15] decided it wasn't worth them to review or even to vote on. How is that possible?

[30:23] I like

[30:24] an answer on that one because now we're screwed, but you guys already knew this, because that's

[30:30] the reason you did it that way. Now, it's a Nevada State Environmental Agency that's

[30:35] trying to get their lawyers to fight our fight for us.

[30:40] This is the most incompetency I've

[30:42] ever seen. And for what you guys get paid, and my apologies, last time I spoke, I said

[30:47] 260,000. Mr. Wagner, I was wrong. It's 316,000 that you earned a year. So laugh at me now.

[30:55] laugh at me now. I like we spend over we spend $64 million in county payroll. But yet we brought in

[31:05] 57.7 million. Explain that to me. And then we have things like the splash pad and Mrs.

[31:12] Strickland here is going to sit here and praise Jimmy Martinez for the work done. Are you kidding me?

[31:24] I

[31:24] You guys can't even do so much of a splash pad, right? Let alone something like the data center or the medic waste.

[31:31] Say anybody on the phone now, please.

[31:33] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[31:39] Yes, Ron Mortensen, M-O-R-K-I-N-S-S-O-N. First, I'd like to congratulate John Coderig on the wonderful job he did.

[31:48] the meeting, a couple meetings back. It went very, very smoothly. You know, if we had John

[31:53] Colton's experience, the meeting, maybe he wouldn't feel the need to restrict the time

[31:59] that people could see.

[32:02] Yeah, that's what I got. Thank you.

[32:04] Thank you. Come on down, sir. Can you mute him or shut him off for some?

[32:15] Good morning. I don't want to cast any dispersions, but before I get started,

[32:21] And you please spell your name for the record sir. Oh, I'm I'm starting yet. I just want to do an insertion before I get started. No, no, that's not you've started.

[32:32] Change the rules on me. But anyway, my name is on for Hodge and greetings. I'm a patriot and a God is my shepherd. Media is not a friend of the public at large.

[32:47] I am amazed at the lack of empathy and concern for each and every human being on the planet.

[32:57] Regardless of their status, where is the crowd now, where are the Christian people,

[33:05] where is their mercy and feelings for other human beings, where are they?

[33:11] First, I ask the question, when something goes wrong, where is the leadership? Protect and serve? What does that mean? Are they just words? Are they just pertain to one segment of the population?

[33:28] Where are you finding these people to serve in law enforcement? Are they high-calibre or just a body and a uniform?

[33:37] form. Are they really trained to work with the public? I hear often times as

[33:43] with their own regime, they have personality conflicts. In this area we need

[33:49] good leaders and good people in that job that really protect and serve. I was

[33:56] motivated by the newspaper. It reminded how blacks, so I'm from that era, were

[34:03] are treated in Mississippi by law enforcement in the 60s.

[34:07] This must stop other saga continues.

[34:11] We must find, we must have and well-trained people in these jobs that also have patients.

[34:18] Thank you, sir.

[34:20] Thank you, sir.

[34:24] Mr. Hodges, can we have, can we have that rent for our records, please?

[34:29] Can you provide, can you give that staff so we can have it for our records?

[34:34] Please, she can give it to someone.

[34:35] Thank you. Sam, you got anybody on the phone please?

[34:45] All right. Sam, anybody on the phone please?

[34:47] No chair. Come on up.

[34:57] I can go. Yes.

[35:00] Linda Clark, CLAR K. First of all,

[35:05] I won't say it. I want to thank Ann for giving us the ban. I'm not sure how far we're going to get with it, but at least we got something to start with and work with. As far as the other things going on in this town, definitely don't need a waste center. We don't need a glove factory.

[35:31] We don't need a lot of things that you guys have put in front of us.

[35:35] But we keep getting it, we keep fighting.

[35:39] I just want to let you know, elections do have consequences, so be prepared.

[35:44] The other thing I want to say is, it's really embarrassing to live in this community and

[35:50] know that we have a government that doesn't support its people.

[35:54] Thank you.

[35:54] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[35:57] I wonder where the screen's going on.

[35:59] No chair.

[35:59] come on up sir.

[36:03] Don't know how you do hear us, correct? Yes we hear you loud and clear.

[36:09] Oh thank you. Good morning everyone. Bruce Johnson, J-O-H-N-S-O-N. And first of all I'm going to question

[36:16] your authority to remove this lady. I'm going to question your authority on your action. So I'm going

[36:24] to start off with a little scripture here. This is Luke 1152. Especially since we probably have a

[36:31] couple attorneys out here in the seats. It says, well, into you, lawyers, for you have

[36:37] taken away the key of knowledge, you entered, not into yourselves, and them that were

[36:43] entering in the end. Now, I'm going to move on to you guys, received a new notice from me,

[36:54] this morning should be in your inbox. I don't know if you took the time to read it or not,

[36:57] But it's only one page pretty simple.

[36:58] You probably don't give a rat's booty.

[37:00] But I really don't care because it's my quarter record.

[37:04] So this is to all of you, including Brent Wagner,

[37:07] Susan Raihaal, Susan Steve Osborne,

[37:11] Camerata, Sheriff Joe McGill.

[37:14] It's also addressed as a Supreme Court and Todd Blanche,

[37:18] Donald Trump.

[37:20] And I'll tell you, you sit there and roll your eyes.

[37:22] They already have a copy of this.

[37:24] So, this is a notice in demand for liability, all attorneys advising upon the rights of the people.

[37:35] Notice to ages, notice principals, notice principals, notice to ages.

[37:38] Iber Johnson, one of the people has seen in 50 state constitutions of right and

[37:44] next-sizing power over all jurisdictions, and include you, okay?

[37:49] Do you present you with this notice that you and your agents may provide immediate due care?

[37:54] please take notice. We the people have assembled it and realized that as servants, that's you guys,

[38:01] may have attorneys who advise you on what you can do in regards to unconstitutionally exercising

[38:08] power over the people. However, as servants, it is you who put out, thank you sir, action

[38:28] to

[38:28] As the chair for the night county independent American party for night county and the national committee for the Constitution party on September 17th, we are having a Constitution dinner celebrating George Washington, our speakers will be telling us about our constitutional civil and our property rights and we're going to be having some speakers who've been extorted by some people in the community.

[38:56] So that will be at treasures at 6 o'clock at night on September 17th, Constitution Day.

[39:02] Tickets are available, 877, Paramp is the phone number.

[39:08] Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone please.

[39:13] No chair.

[39:14] Come on down, Tammy.

[39:19] Good morning, Tammy Pittman, PIT, M-A-N.

[39:24] Meda waste is going to come back to the Board of County Commissioners, just because Endept gave them a pass does not mean Paramp has to approve.

[39:33] Several months ago, the B.O.CC directed Mr. Osborne to give regular planning and permit status updates at the B.O.C.C. meetings.

[39:41] We've not heard from Mr. Osborne since, but the citizens should know there are good news on the horizon.

[39:47] Recently, I learned that Cooby, manufacturing is slating to build a plant here behind Home Depot.

[39:53] Not far from there, at the old racetrack, is a Las Vegas company that manufactures building trusses, which is

[40:00] Approved its operations to Perump. A large plumbing supply company and Ace Hardware owner

[40:05] are renting the good old goodwill building for two years to house both a plumbing supply

[40:10] company and an Ace Hardware while they build their own facility here in town. And the

[40:15] Silverton is still in the hopper as well. We have lots to celebrate. We do not need to be

[40:21] a toxic waste repository for the southwest. We have a lot to offer and we deserve better than

[40:28] to live in a toxic soup.

[40:30] As we live in a valley surrounded by 360 degrees of mountains,

[40:35] the toxic gases released when they opened those ovens

[40:39] would hang in the valley.

[40:41] Later this month, due to a hard fought appeal,

[40:44] thank you to John O'Brien.

[40:46] You will have the ability to reverse the RPC's decision

[40:49] and we are counting on you.

[40:51] Thank you.

[40:53] Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

[40:55] Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[41:03] Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A. Can you hear me? Is my tone

[41:08] in volume okay for you?

[41:12] I'm sorry. Go ahead, sir. Hello.

[41:17] Hello. Can you hear me? Go ahead, sir.

[41:21] Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. That would be Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A.

[41:27] And once again, I'm still baffled on my free speech and what's protected here.

[41:34] So if it's state and federal guidelines that I'm not allowed to talk about, I respectfully

[41:40] ask for y'all to remove those flags.

[41:43] If I'm not allowed to pray and quote, scripture, I'm going to respectfully ask for you to put

[41:50] that sign down and God will trust.

[41:53] And when it comes to product extortion and official oppression, I just wanted to remind

[41:58] all of y'all when it comes to USC title 18 Subsection 666, trying to wink you, didn't

[42:06] come?

[42:07] And y'all know what that is?

[42:09] I'm sure you haven't had the training, but anyways, that's a theft of federal programs.

[42:16] And may y'all fall in your own traps.

[42:18] great job, Mr. Hodges, Bruce Johnson,

[42:22] Greco, Verizon.

[42:25] The true Christians don't have to be asked,

[42:28] who shall I send?

[42:30] They already know.

[42:32] And for all my state and federal representatives,

[42:36] I want you to take note of Denver Strickland

[42:38] when it comes to women speaking out against Epstein.

[42:42] I'm not allowed to talk about him.

[42:44] We're shaking it.

[42:46] She forbidden it. She violated my first amendment. Take note women, daughters, sisters,

[42:54] mothers, grandmothers, who's protecting who? The ALJ's number one asset. It's not just

[43:02] Captain Berkowitz. Thank you. Come on, Councilor.

[43:13] Good morning, Darryl Wade, W-A-D-E. I just

[43:16] I just wanted to thank y'all for being here off crowd today.

[43:20] That was a good day.

[43:21] Thank you.

[43:22] Sam, anybody else on the phone, please.

[43:26] Yes, chair.

[43:26] The caller is unmuted.

[43:27] Please speak of this phone, your name for the record.

[43:33] Tina, Bond, Kugling, K-U-G, L-A-N.

[43:37] And you are well aware of having attended a meeting in a long time, publicly, because my

[43:44] life is in danger when I'm there, but I'm actually surprised at how many of the public

[43:49] has not stood up to you guys and stopped you from changing policy procedure and protocol that

[43:57] is already in your books that you're supposed to be following.

[44:02] Joe McGill has no authority in those chambers, those chambers belong to the public, and

[44:08] I'm surprised that the public that is in that room right now is allowing this to go on.

[44:16] This calls for a class action lawsuit, which I believe is already in the works against some

[44:22] of the commissioners.

[44:24] I understand that the two of you have lost and you don't care about your behavior or

[44:28] your community anymore, but the disrespect and the disregard to the public, to some of the

[44:35] women the way you speak to them, Ron, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[44:39] Because I know if I was in that chamber and you spoke to me the way you do, I wouldn't

[44:44] stand for it. You have no authority to remove anybody from those chambers.

[44:48] Those chambers don't belong to you. They belong to the public. You guys are

[44:52] leasing those buildings to use them and I cannot sad them why no one else is

[44:59] not.

[45:00] Standing up any time you tell the sheriff to remove somebody from those chambers. When you practice the first amendment, make sure it's followed by the second and then covered by the fifth. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, Dwight.

[45:20] Thank you. Good morning, Dwight Lili. I'm here to speak out against flock cameras and surveillance systems that we see all across the land right now. And I've done some research

[45:34] on this, and from the flock company's perspective, well, we're just reading license plates and

[45:40] the information disappears after a few minutes. But this is not true. There are cases example

[45:46] in Kentucky of a law enforcement officer using the flock camera system to scope out his former

[45:55] girlfriend 2,000 times using the system to track her where she was going, what she was doing,

[46:01] and this is a complete violation of our Fourth Amendment when you're using a system like that.

[46:07] As I understand, we have one set of flock cameras here in Perun.

[46:12] I'd like to see a ban completely.

[46:14] I don't think we can trust the system in place here, be it law enforcement, be the government itself,

[46:21] to have a flock system type camera system, surveillance system that could infringe upon.

[46:27] People here be used for nefarious reasons that they weren't designed for.

[46:32] Thank you.

[46:33] Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone please.

[46:36] No chair, come on down, Mr. Limus.

[46:44] I think your button's not on there, buddy.

[46:46] Right there, there we go.

[46:47] Mike, check one, two, one, two.

[46:50] Paul, Limus, L-E-M-U-S.

[46:53] And I'm going to run into a Mark 7 quote that came to mind when all this was going on.

[47:00] We're out in the Amargosa Valley area just a little ways further from you here and

[47:06] We own land there that's backed up to the Ash Meadows property. So today. I wanted to just read it real quick

[47:12] This is by the way

[47:14] brought to you from the businessmen global businessmen fellowship group

[47:18] They have asked me personally to read this and this Bible. I'm reading from today is mr. Jim Marsha the casino owners

[47:25] personal Bible that has lent me to read today just so that it's on the record

[47:31] for they all saw him

[47:35] and were terrified, but immediately he spoke with them and said to them,

[47:42] take courage, it is I, do not be afraid. Then he got into the boat with them and the wind stopped

[47:51] and they were utterly astonished. So that's kind of a unique Bible verse to me because it's the

[48:02] it's the accepting of the God is within all of us.

[48:06] It's all of our job to make this stuff right.

[48:09] And these folks are given the tool of this board

[48:11] and local ordinances up to this point.

[48:14] What we're infringing on now is a new beginning of changes.

[48:18] We're having states attack town cities.

[48:22] It's a very unique time, but to disregard their power

[48:27] and all the work that they've done in a county

[48:29] to build up this system for all of us

[48:31] would only weaken us. I know it gets frustrating and sometimes we just want to, you know, kill the messenger, but the messenger is only part of the big picture we need to make sure that we all consider that the state is who's attacking us.

[48:46] Thank you. Thank you Paul.

[48:48] Say I'm anybody on the phone please.

[48:50] No chair.

[48:51] Come on down Deborah.

[48:56] Deborah Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S, sometimes there are agenda items in front of this committee

[49:11] and other committees that the little breakout groups, I don't want to call them breakout

[49:18] groups, but I don't know what you call them.

[49:21] But for instance, the Finance Committee, and I think that it would be very helpful

[49:35] to the public if we saw the numbers as well.

[49:39] And I also think it would be very helpful to the public if we had a clue what was going

[49:46] to be talked about so we could do some research on it.

[49:50] I'm sure I'm not the only one, thank you.

[49:53] Thank you.

[49:55] Come on down, Gerald.

[50:00] Good morning, commissioners, Gerald Schulte, S-C-H-U-L-T-E.

[50:05] I normally bite my tongue on a lot of things, but I heard Mr. Lackey get up here and talk some stupid shit.

[50:15] Mr. Lackey, this town has a majority of manufactured homes in over the last 20 years. They are converted to real property and they generate a minimum of $2,000 per parcel. Per home in this town. You're living in the olden days when you live in

[50:33] in that travel trader on that little lot that you still live on occasionally and you have

[50:38] no idea what you're talking about again when you come up to this microphone, so I just

[50:42] want to correct what you said. Manufactured home owners pay just as much property tax

[50:50] as any stick built value per value.

[50:54] Thank you very much, Gerald. I appreciate logic. Come on, Dale, ma'am.

[50:59] First

[51:05] of all, good morning commissioners.

[51:10] I hear everybody talk about the committee work.

[51:12] I'm sorry, just spell it for the record.

[51:13] Sorry, I'm going to be Ms. ALL.

[51:16] Thank you.

[51:16] Sorry.

[51:17] That's okay.

[51:18] The many waste.

[51:20] I'm not really familiar.

[51:22] I've just recently started coming to these meetings.

[51:26] And I would think from listening to everybody that people who have breathing issues, you know,

[51:34] There's a lot of seniors and a lot of them have breathing issues, and we already know

[51:42] the dust here is very bad.

[51:44] And people, even children, that are warned to stay in the homes when we have high winds.

[51:51] So, I would think that that would, the many ways facility would basically affect all of them also.

[52:01] So I just hope you guys take this into effect that we just don't need something like that

[52:07] here.

[52:07] We're trying to better this place, but not make it a city.

[52:13] We want to keep it rural.

[52:15] And all of your decisions you make, I hope you keep that in consideration, rural Nevada.

[52:24] We don't want to miskeit.

[52:26] We don't want to loss Vegas.

[52:27] Yes, so anyway, thank you.

[52:31] Thank you.

[52:32] Sam, anybody on the phone please.

[52:34] No chair.

[52:35] All right, seeing none and we're going to close out public comment.

[52:38] Unless there's someone in Tonopar, screen's not on up there, guys.

[52:42] So there it is.

[52:44] All right, so we're going to close that out and move to number three, please.

[52:50] Item three, Commissioner Manager comments.

[52:53] The site is limited to announcements.

[52:55] Brief discussions of public comments.

[52:57] correction of factual inaccuracies,

[53:00] correction of staff or topics proposed for future board meetings,

[53:05] lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited

[53:09] by the Nevada Open Meeting Law.

[53:11] Thank you for that.

[53:12] Sheriff, you're walking, you may as well come on up.

[53:18] Good morning, Sheriff Joe McGill.

[53:20] This is basically directed at the commissioners and Mr. Coonsy.

[53:26] I would like confirmation, Mr. Coonsy

[53:30] that NRS 203.090 disturbing a meeting and 203.030 provoking a commission of breach of

[53:44] peace would apply to these meetings and give us the authority to take action and remove

[53:51] an individual if asked to. If you need to take some time to look at those, just give

[53:57] back to me please. If that is the case, it might be time that more severe action gets

[54:05] taken in one of these meetings. So they aren't here.

[54:10] Go ahead.

[54:10] Also in the very first thing, front of the agenda, it states all this. We're allowed to

[54:16] change the time. It's up to this board to conduct this meeting. We're here to do the business

[54:23] of the people, but we have to do the business of the people.

[54:25] Unless something immediately comes to my attention, I try not to step out of line or immediately address it.

[54:35] I try to defer to the board.

[54:39] If a board member asks me to remove an individual, I verify that, and then I do.

[54:46] I appreciate that.

[54:47] Thank you, Chair.

[54:48] Thank you, sir.

[54:49] You're welcome.

[54:49] here. Commissioner Bain, you got anything?

[54:54] Mr. Chair, board.

[54:56] Thank you, Chair. Good morning, everybody.

[55:00] I would like to hone in and specifically address the meta-waste concern, very, very legitimate concern.

[55:11] What a coincidence. We have coming up for October 6th, where District Attorney Kunzi and myself, Commissioner Jebore,

[55:24] or we have a public hearing, time and date set, specifically for meta-waste, and then

[55:33] the public hearing will be on the second meeting of October 20th.

[55:40] Please keep in mind that, yes, as I mentioned, the quincidence end-up did give and post a

[55:49] notice, and on that notice it specifically reads that their deadline to receive and there

[55:57] is a special form, a special form to fill out, go to their link, but their deadline is

[56:04] September 10th, excuse me, September 10th is their deadline.

[56:09] So try to get in those responses as quickly as possible.

[56:13] So we don't miss that September 10th deadline.

[56:17] Also, we do have a county ordinance that's nice that the state end up as opposed to this notice.

[56:27] But my county, we do have a requirement and an ordinance to issue a special permit within

[56:38] our county for such a project of this magnitude.

[56:42] So, very important, I appreciate all of your concern and your feedback, but we've been working on this and you will be very, very surprised as to the information that comes forward.

[56:57] Thank you again for being here and I turn back over to you, Chair.

[57:01] Thank you, Commissioner Strickland.

[57:04] Reiterating with the commissioner and the board that was well done so that people were reminded that they can reach out and make common against the in-depth decision and what our future looks like for hearing this is a board. Thank you. Thank you chair. Thank you.

[57:19] Commissioner Coneck?

[57:23] I briefly mentioned many ways and the fact remains that before they can operate they

[57:30] need a permit from us so there you go and it's the opinion of the district attorney that

[57:38] we come up with a specific ordinance banning any importation of medical waste into this county

[57:47] from another state so we'll be looking at that.

[57:51] Now, that being said, it's time.

[57:58] John's got a new toy.

[58:04] Is it working now?

[58:08] We'll be using this in further meetings.

[58:10] I'm not using it today because the numbers on the four right there, they just, I can't stand looking at them,

[58:20] blinking so quickly.

[58:21] So they're going to black that out for me somehow.

[58:24] but instead of using this, that you have no idea how much time you have left and

[58:31] you probably can't even hear it go ding, ding, ding when your time is up, this

[58:36] will do it and it also supposedly makes a noise when your time is up. So get

[58:42] used to this. I asked for it, I don't know several months ago because some

[58:47] members of the public had asked about it. So we asked and we have it now. So magic

[58:56] there you go. That's all I have. Thank you.

[59:00] Thanks, Commissioner. Okay, so I just have a couple of quick things. Somebody had mentioned water.

[59:06] They mentioned everybody mentions water all the time.

[59:10] And the reason for that is because you'll hear stories of some wells going dry, some wells

[59:15] having to be punch deeper. And then you'll hear other stories of wells

[59:21] Artesianing in different areas of the town. We have not had a water study in 20 years, I believe.

[59:28] 20 years. So I had mentioned Bakersfield had done a lidar study where they fly over and they

[59:38] basically radar down into the ground. They know how much water there is. There is there. I mentioned

[59:43] that to some members of the water board and they're like, well, you know, those aren't. I don't know if

[59:48] That's reliable and so the bottom line in the end of it really is none of us at this point

[59:55] really know where we are on water.

[59:58] We're all in that same boat.

[1:00:00] So none of us want to go dry. I mean, I've got land that I don't want it to be useless either. So there's that. So the study should be coming eventually. And the sooner the better. I was told it would be this year, but so there's that. Secondly, I also mentioned at our last meeting from a position of we're all residents here. We're probably all property owners and and none of us want to be hurt.

[1:00:29] anymore. I mean, I was affected deeply by the 1293 order several years ago, made property

[1:00:37] I had overnight, just worthless, but which got upheld by the friggin' Supreme Court. But

[1:00:46] anyway, so I mentioned last meeting that regarding the data center, and I'm not, if I didn't

[1:00:58] I don't like that location for the data center, but I'm not opposed to data centers somewhere out, out, away where they're not going to harm in my time now, John.

[1:01:12] But so I mentioned, I mentioned that we're in this together and we need to be very careful because people in Clark and in the state have told me, well, you know, we don't really give a damn what Nye County says because we're going to do what we want to do on the Clark side.

[1:01:28] and I may think they can fight us, and they may think that they can do this and that,

[1:01:33] but we have unlimited resources to fight them until they're broke.

[1:01:37] Two days after our last meeting, when I brought this up to all of us here,

[1:01:42] a different company, other than the one that was proposing to come here on Mance,

[1:01:49] a different company applied with the BLM for a thousand acre data project,

[1:01:53] just on the Clark side using the same dam basin so and if that were ever to

[1:02:01] be approved or moved forward, Clark gets any benefit there would be and they

[1:02:06] still suck the water right out of 162 which again we don't know how much is

[1:02:12] there so it's just I mean we don't always have to agree on everything and you

[1:02:16] don't even like each other or not but we are here together so we better be

[1:02:22] figure in something now. That's all I got. Managers, directors, anybody?

[1:02:30] Yeah, you want

[1:02:31] to be break? Chair, I have the clerk. Oh, go ahead and tell the ladies first.

[1:02:37] Hi, I'll just appreciate that chair. I just wanted to draw out a couple of members. We have

[1:02:44] 46 days until early voting. We are there. We are getting ready to start our mail-in ballots.

[1:02:50] Speaking of mail-in ballots, you guys have until September 4th. If you do not want a ballot,

[1:02:56] Please go to my office, they're on the website, they're on the state's website, the form.

[1:03:01] If we receive them by the fourth and we will not have to mail them, that's the only way

[1:03:06] we cannot mail 37,000 ballots.

[1:03:10] If you've already done it, we have it, but if you haven't and you are one who wants to vote

[1:03:14] in person, swing by either one of the offices, again, online, and pick that up for me.

[1:03:20] And I think that's it.

[1:03:21] Thanks.

[1:03:22] Cory, nice to see you.

[1:03:23] Go ahead, Arnold.

[1:03:26] Good morning. My name is Arnold Knightley. I'm the Public Communications Manager for Knight County.

[1:03:32] I want to correct this statement made at the last meeting regarding the county's handling of public records requests.

[1:03:38] The sheriff stated, and I quote, as a point of comparison, the county has three people who do public records requests.

[1:03:45] And she does three times as many more. She does more by herself than three people do for this county, in quote.

[1:03:53] The primary correction is the assertion the county has three people handling public records requests.

[1:03:58] This is not accurate.

[1:03:59] The county has one public records administrator.

[1:04:02] The county created the position in 2002 in response to rapidly increasing workload.

[1:04:08] The year before the position was created, the county received 346 public records requests.

[1:04:14] By the end of last year, the number had increased approximately 189% to 1000.

[1:04:19] And the work load continues to grow through August 2026 yesterday.

[1:04:25] The county has received 772 public records requests, a 15.4% increase over this same period last year.

[1:04:34] In August of the month, the county received 131 requests compared with 82 in August 2025, the increase is nearly 60%.

[1:04:41] At the current pace, the county is projected to receive approximately 1,150 public records requests in 2026.

[1:04:48] The workload cannot be measured simply by counting the number of requests received.

[1:04:54] August requests alone involved approximately 562 individual documents.

[1:04:59] They are currently-

[1:05:00] Number 26, open records requests, including 16 that involve reviewing emails. Approximately 42 requests during 2026 have required email review, and one current request alone involves reviewing more than 4,000 emails. Individual requesters can also significantly impact the workload. Since April, one requester has submitted 32 public records requests, nine of which remain open. These figures demonstrate a substantial and growing

[1:05:29] paying public records workload for the county's one person.

[1:05:32] Meaningful comparisons should be based on documented request volumes,

[1:05:36] the number of complexity records being sought, and the time required to locate,

[1:05:40] review, redact, and produce for responsive records.

[1:05:44] This is not intended to dispute or diminish the workload being experienced by the sheriff's office.

[1:05:49] We have a great relationship with the records person and work together often.

[1:05:54] She does a great job, particularly in an era where social media and

[1:05:58] an increased public attention can generate significant demand in records.

[1:06:02] And oftentimes those records are used for clicks.

[1:06:05] It's intent to correct the record regarding county staffing and

[1:06:09] provide an accurate picture of the challenges the county faces in responding to public records requests.

[1:06:15] Thank you, Arnold, but I need you to spell your name for the record.

[1:06:20] Knightley, K and I, DHT, L.Y.

[1:06:23] Thank you.

[1:06:25] Come on up, Tammy.

[1:06:25] me.

[1:06:34] Good morning, commissioners. Tammy Engel, E N G E L. First of all, I need to say

[1:06:41] hi, Erica. And then I wanted to bring to your attention that the Sheriff's Office is hosting

[1:06:48] along with Vitalent, a badge of honor blood drive on September 10th and 11th. On the 10th,

[1:06:56] it is from 9 to 3. And on the 11th, it will be from noon to 6. And this is at the prompt

[1:07:03] Nugget and we hope that you will stop by and donate some much-needed blood for our area.

[1:07:11] Thank you.

[1:07:12] Thank you.

[1:07:12] Come on up, Chief.

[1:07:18] Good morning, Commissioner Scott Lewis, L-E-W-I-S, Town of Promfire Chief.

[1:07:22] I want to remind everyone that the burn moratorium remains in place.

[1:07:26] We have verted in near disaster again yesterday and wind-driven conditions.

[1:07:31] High fuel loads with an unauthorized control burn on the property in the south end of Valley.

[1:07:37] That burn impact is three other properties, including one property that had a lot of material stored on including vehicles.

[1:07:46] So we're reminding everyone to release November 1st, no burning, thank you.

[1:07:51] Thanks Chief, same any managers or directors on the phone please.

[1:07:55] No chair.

[1:07:56] All right, we're going to close that out and move to, we'll do four and five and then take a break.

[1:08:01] 4, please.

[1:08:04] Item 4 approval of the agenda for September 1st, 2026.

[1:08:09] We are going to be polling in consent items 11.3A but we will still consider B and also

[1:08:21] also pulling item five emergency items.

[1:08:25] All right, thank you for that.

[1:08:28] Okay, let's take 10 minute putty break.

[1:08:54] You're ready to own a butcher.

[1:08:55] All right, we're ready when you guys are.

[1:09:08] Okay, indeed,

[1:09:27] yeah, good.

[1:09:34] All right, we're ready, manager number six, please.

[1:09:38] Item six, 10 a.m. time item for possible action.

[1:09:42] Sir, the curing, sir, sir.

[1:09:47] Mr. Hodge.

[1:09:48] Mr. Hodge.

[1:09:49] Go ahead, manager.

[1:09:52] 10 a.m. time item for possible action, public hearing, discussion, and deliberation to adopt, amend and adopt a reject mic.

[1:10:00] County bill number 2026-12. A bill proposing to amend Nye County Code Title 17, comprehensive land use planning and zoning, by amending chapter 17.10 entitled, prompt regional planning district relating to section 17.04. 110 definitions by adding the definition of a dwelling unit.

[1:10:25] ADU amending the definition of dwelling or dwelling unit.

[1:10:29] By removing or dwelling unit, amending section 17.04.210, RH 9.5, Rural Homestead Residential,

[1:10:41] section 17.04.215, RH 4.5, Rural Homestead Residential, section 17.04.220, RE2, Rural

[1:10:53] the state's residential, 17.04225 RE1 rural estate residential, 17.04230 suburban the state's residential, section 17.04.240 VR20 village residential, and 17.04.245 VR10 village residential by adding an accessory dwelling units and standards to permissive uses.

[1:11:23] and removing mobile homes as temporary residences with temporary use permit and providing for the severability constitutionality and effective date thereof and the other matters properly relating there to hand.

[1:11:37] I know there's a typo in here. It's less on the 17.10. I think that should be 17.04 in the agenda item, so just correcting that on the record perfect.

[1:11:50] Good morning, Celeste.

[1:11:51] Good morning.

[1:11:52] Celeste, Sandoval, S-A-N-D-O-V-A-L, Assistant Planning Director.

[1:11:57] As Brett has stated, we had received an application in and they would like to add the definition

[1:12:03] of accessory dwelling unit and the applicants are here for any questions if you have anything.

[1:12:08] They are the experts in the manufactured homes for what they're wanting to add.

[1:12:13] Cool.

[1:12:14] Thank you very much for that.

[1:12:15] So I think what we're going to do is open public comment.

[1:12:17] Oh, wait a minute.

[1:12:18] Go ahead.

[1:12:18] You mind if we do a little different here and ask questions from the applicants or

[1:12:25] Could you state your name and spill it for the record?

[1:12:30] Gerald Shulti, SCH, ULTE, Factory Home Center.

[1:12:34] Delisha

[1:12:36] Tommisha asked you, Factory Home Center as well, H-A-S-K-E-W.

[1:12:40] Excellent. So we evidently have had some holes in our roles that you're come up with an idea of how we should could do a better job when it comes to the

[1:12:48] these ADUs, and I just was wondering if you'd give a little explanation about what those

[1:12:53] changes are when it comes to kitchens and et cetera, because that's what basically

[1:12:57] is.

[1:12:58] So, well, currently right now, the only thing that we're trying to get changed is any of

[1:13:03] these zones that already allow a site built kacita, which does not have a fully functioning

[1:13:07] kitchen, we're trying to get included in that definition an ADU unit.

[1:13:12] That's not in addition to a kacita, we just want to say, okay, if you're going to do a

[1:13:16] you can also do an ADU.

[1:13:18] Whether that's gonna be a site built or manufactured,

[1:13:21] we want to be included in that.

[1:13:23] Assembly Bill 396 has already been passed,

[1:13:26] and that is in the state of Nevada.

[1:13:28] They've already passed it to where the larger counties and cities

[1:13:31] already allow for ADU units.

[1:13:33] Clark County has allowed it for years and years, and we've done it.

[1:13:36] For years and years there, they've actually even removed the waiver requirements,

[1:13:40] and we don't have to get any type of approvals from neighbors or anything like that.

[1:13:45] But it's just something that we want to be included in because right now, you have to have a temporary use in order to have a manufactured home placed on a private piece of property.

[1:13:54] We have to go through all of the permitting, all of the zoning, we have to do soils reports, we have to do our engineer type two pads, our block work, we have to pay so much money in order to get these homes on these properties.

[1:14:06] And then it has to be renewed every single year. Once that medical need is no longer, they have to remove that home.

[1:14:12] And now, whenever you take into account years on these homes, Clark County, you're only allowed to put a home that six years are newer, and a lot of the other jurisdictions have those same type of rules.

[1:14:22] So now, what are these people going to do with these homes whenever they can no longer have them on their pieces of property?

[1:14:28] And people also have a misconception of what brand-new manufactured homes look like.

[1:14:33] There are two by six construction, they're built just as well as a site built home.

[1:14:38] You can do exterior stucco, you can do tile roof if you want, you can do metal roofs.

[1:14:42] I have a few pictures of some of our homes that we do have, but they've definitely changed

[1:14:47] over the years, that's for sure.

[1:14:49] Thank you, Chair.

[1:14:50] Thank you, Mrs. Alicia.

[1:14:52] And the great thing is, they'll be converted to real property and generate a lot more extra

[1:14:57] That's what we've previously discussed.

[1:15:00] There we go. The only time that it's not is if somebody is going to do a chattelone and they have to finance the home only. But once that's paid off, they can then tie it. I've already checked with manufactured housing division. They said it's a land use thing and it has nothing to do with them. So you can have two homes converted to real property on one site. Perfect. Thank you. All right. Let's now open public comment. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[1:15:26] Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[1:15:32] Yes, Amy Nelson. Any LSON? I'm not quite sure why they need to have a 2 by 6 manufacturer

[1:15:42] own and I'm really suspect that these will be used in addition to other things that are

[1:15:52] going on like the solar farms they might want to put one out there and so forth. And I'm

[1:15:59] really suspect to changing our master plan this early in the game. I'm really

[1:16:07] suspect to any of those changes. So I hope you really consider what this is

[1:16:13] going to mean for all of us in the future. Thank you. Come on down Beth.

[1:16:24] Beth Bores-Sevich, B-O-R-Y-S-C-W-I-C-H. I'm speaking as a regular citizen that

[1:16:32] owns a home here in town and not an RPC commissioner.

[1:16:36] My issue with this is that we have a mobile home company that wants us to change our code

[1:16:42] so they can sell more homes.

[1:16:45] They want us to be like Las Vegas, Henderson.

[1:16:50] We're a rural small town.

[1:16:53] Why would we put another mobile home on a lot instead of putting a smaller unit?

[1:17:01] that doesn't encompass 30 or 40 feet.

[1:17:07] It just doesn't make sense to me.

[1:17:10] The bottom line that I'm hearing out of all of this,

[1:17:13] oh, also I do know that both of the homes

[1:17:17] on the property can just be rentals.

[1:17:20] So instead of it being an ADU

[1:17:22] to help your family or some relative or whatever,

[1:17:28] they could just run them all out forever.

[1:17:30] and then what? But they are, they want to sell more mobile homes. I am not in favor of this. We're

[1:17:37] rural. We don't want to put all the homes on all the land. Can you imagine how that would look?

[1:17:44] Oh my God. Anyway, I just am not in favor of this. Thank you.

[1:17:49] Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please.

[1:17:53] Yes, Chair. The call area is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[1:18:00] Yes. Can you hear me?

[1:18:03] Yes, ma'am. Sorry. That's okay. I didn't mean to provide it for you. That's okay.

[1:18:14] It's very isolating trying to figure out if I'm being hurt or not on this line. I can't see you. No, I appreciate it. But can you, can you please spell your last name just for the record?

[1:18:27] Yes, my first name is Kapua K-A-P-U-A. I spell it because it's unusual here.

[1:18:34] Johnson is my last name, J-O-H-N-S-O-N.

[1:18:38] I'm calling in because I've been listening to this, to come the complete meeting.

[1:18:45] And the irony that I'm hearing is just so strong

[1:18:52] because here we are, we have speakers who are protesting against manufactured homes.

[1:19:00] This would be people buying one by one by manufacturing homes.

[1:19:05] And yet, we have these huge housing developments

[1:19:09] that were not there when I bought my vacant land by vacant lot 40 years ago.

[1:19:15] And now we have the attempted introduction of the data center.

[1:19:23] Now we're looking at a medical waste dumping site.

[1:19:27] The irony, because between a few people landowners getting begging

[1:19:34] for their utilities to be put in or even allowed.

[1:19:38] And yet there's five casinos, a pool, a man-made lake, excuse me, where is the practicality here?

[1:19:54] And are we supposed to accept that as plum?

[1:19:58] Once, make it loud, order it to up.

[1:20:00] All being denied everything. We're supposed to say, well, that's okay. It's not okay. It is not okay with us. And you have not heard the last of us. We will be at every single meeting until something is done. And this irony that's blatant. Thank you. Thank you. I believe that Miss Kapua didn't realize that we are on an agenda item. I think so. I think so. Yeah. Okay. Sam, or no, come on down, sir.

[1:20:33] Thank you.

[1:20:33] the commissioners for your time in consideration.

[1:20:36] I strongly support this amendment.

[1:20:39] Can you stop for the record I'm so sorry.

[1:20:41] Yeah, I'm sorry.

[1:20:42] Reggie, Federal, F is in Frank, EDR all.

[1:20:46] Thank you.

[1:20:47] Again, thank you commissioners for your time in consideration on this subject.

[1:20:51] I strongly support the tax amendment 41 and bill 2026-12.

[1:20:57] Because it aligns our housing code with existing frameworks.

[1:21:01] While providing our community with a practical and lasting option, small manufactured homes are currently permitting only in circumstances tied to medical necessities.

[1:21:16] When that condition is, the unit must be removed, even after residents invest over $100,000 for one of these manufactured homes.

[1:21:28] This creates a financial risk for families and caring for loved ones.

[1:21:32] Bill 2026-12 allows manufactured homes to remain on residential lots,

[1:21:38] making them permanent housing solutions like casitas already permitted in our code.

[1:21:47] That gives these families the stability they need when making such a major investment.

[1:21:52] Manufactured homes are built to strict HUD standards.

[1:21:58] HUD standards, that's really good, you know, that's better than what we have now.

[1:22:04] Their registered solutions that expand options beyond casitas, offering different price points

[1:22:10] and stability for Ferris family needs.

[1:22:14] Whenever for medical necessity, our general affordability, families deserve access to code,

[1:22:22] compliant permanent housing that fits their circumstances.

[1:22:25] By providing this lawful alternative, we expand housing options,

[1:22:30] give families certainly that their investments won't be lost.

[1:22:36] Thank you.

[1:22:36] We respect it.

[1:22:38] Thank you very much, sir.

[1:22:39] Thank you.

[1:22:40] All right.

[1:22:41] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[1:22:43] Yes, chair.

[1:22:43] The caller is unmuted.

[1:22:45] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[1:22:49] Hello, commissioners.

[1:22:50] Michael David Garcia, GA or CIA.

[1:22:54] You hear me okay?

[1:22:55] Yes.

[1:22:57] Thank you, thank you.

[1:22:58] I appreciate that.

[1:22:59] I appreciate the other.

[1:23:01] I was delighted.

[1:23:03] Anyhow, my specific comments about this agenda item is the constitutionality, which obviously

[1:23:10] there's some folks on the other side of the microphone a little weak.

[1:23:14] So I'd like to address that part.

[1:23:15] You know, the fifth amendment is due process, and I heard something about the takings.

[1:23:23] Anybody want to address that?

[1:23:25] Maybe we should be on the practice

[1:23:34] system statutes.

[1:23:36] How about the news flash, Sharon?

[1:23:39] It's not a metro.

[1:23:42] Let's get undocked from the

[1:23:47] constitutionality.

[1:23:50] See, I'll know the difference.

[1:23:54] You're treading again.

[1:23:55] Be careful.

[1:23:56] Not a threat.

[1:23:58] It's a right to practice with the Bill of Rights.

[1:24:00] and the 10th Amendment is King.

[1:24:08] Thank you.

[1:24:09] Thanks a lot,

[1:24:13] Anthony.

[1:24:14] Anthony Greco, GRUCO, I think they should be able to get this

[1:24:19] if you're trying to keep families together

[1:24:21] and take care of each other.

[1:24:23] There's nothing wrong with that.

[1:24:25] If people don't like the way it looks,

[1:24:26] it's probably not gonna be garbage if Gerald is doing this

[1:24:30] because he's a good business person.

[1:24:32] And he's been in the community a long time

[1:24:35] and we need to take care of our families.

[1:24:37] So I think they should be able to have this.

[1:24:40] Thank you, sir.

[1:24:41] Say hi to anybody on the phone, please.

[1:24:44] Yes, chair.

[1:24:45] The caller is unmuted.

[1:24:46] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[1:24:51] Yeah.

[1:24:52] My name is Matt Sather, S-A-D-L-E-R, and anything that we can do to expand.

[1:25:06] We need to go ahead and make that happen. This is definitely a reasonable ordinance, a reasonable proposal

[1:25:13] that we can kind of codify here. So I'm all for it. And in the future, expanding our rides on our own lands and to be able to enjoy our properties

[1:25:24] up to a lot of new ideas in the future. Thank you very much. Have a good rest of your meeting.

[1:25:29] Thank you.

[1:25:30] Come on down, Dwight.

[1:25:35] Yeah.

[1:25:36] Dwight, Lily.

[1:25:36] Oh, why?

[1:25:37] I think we need to end the stigma of manufactured homes once for all and stop calling them mobile

[1:25:43] homes and start calling them homes, because that's exactly what they were.

[1:25:48] 46 years ago, in a state of Washington, Mount St.

[1:25:51] Helens blew its top and floating down the Calis River was a green river mobile home.

[1:25:58] The homes that got washed away were all pieces, but the mobile home was floating down the river.

[1:26:03] that's how well it was built. So we need to remove from our zoning I believe any restrictions

[1:26:09] having to do with a term mobile home just call them home. And this all is a housing situation

[1:26:16] that families can remain together. You don't have to create some situation where they have to go

[1:26:22] get a site built builder to come out and do it. You can have it done right in the factory moved in.

[1:26:27] And it's not going to be moved again once it's put on the property.

[1:26:31] This is not the long, long trailer days of Lucille Ball.

[1:26:35] This is in 2026, they're home.

[1:26:39] So I hope that the county planning whoever does the writing up of the ordinances can just

[1:26:47] remove the name, mobile home, but just call it homes.

[1:26:51] That would solve the problem, right there.

[1:26:54] Thanks, Dwight.

[1:26:54] but I completely agree with you.

[1:26:56] Come on down, Susie.

[1:27:02] Susie here, it's H-E-R-T-Z.

[1:27:06] I don't really favor this change of ordinance

[1:27:13] because it ultimately is not that we

[1:27:17] need to be like a Las Vegas.

[1:27:19] We're not Las Vegas.

[1:27:21] We don't need to be like them.

[1:27:22] And we don't need to follow their rules.

[1:27:24] And we don't need to emulate them.

[1:27:26] We're a small rural town.

[1:27:29] If you can find a way to allow for temporary housing

[1:27:33] for people on their properties without it looking

[1:27:36] and sounding like Las Vegas,

[1:27:39] then perhaps we should entertain that.

[1:27:42] But that is a basis for this ordinance.

[1:27:47] I don't think is terribly healthy.

[1:27:50] And this is one manufactured home builder.

[1:27:54] There are others out there, and there's no consensus that has come from other builders who are out there to support this.

[1:28:04] And so it seems a little one-sided in terms of who's proposing this change.

[1:28:11] So I'm personally not in favor of it, thank you.

[1:28:14] Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone please.

[1:28:18] No chair.

[1:28:19] I'm on down Mr. Lolli.

[1:28:26] Okay, here you go.

[1:28:28] Chris Lally, LALY, good morning commissioners.

[1:28:33] I just wanted to speak briefly in support of the proposed ADU ordinance.

[1:28:37] I actually think this is a practical change that the kind of housing flexibility we should be encouraging in prom.

[1:28:44] Allowing a property owner to have one guest residence or an approved ADU while keeping it limited to 1500 square feet to me seems like a reasonable bounce.

[1:28:52] For a lot of families this could mean a place for an aging parent, an adult child trying to get established or simply an opportunity for multiple generations to live close to one another while still having some independence.

[1:29:04] I also appreciate that the ordinance allows both site built and qualifying manufactured homes.

[1:29:09] That gives residents options without simply removing standards.

[1:29:13] My only request would be to make the process and requirements as clear as possible to property owners.

[1:29:18] So people will understand up front what they can build and what approvals will be required.

[1:29:23] Overall though, I think this is a sensible change and I do support it moving forward.

[1:29:28] Thank you guys.

[1:29:28] Thank you.

[1:29:29] Say I'm anybody on the phone please.

[1:29:32] No chair.

[1:29:33] Monday on Linda.

[1:29:38] Linda Clark, CLI RK.

[1:29:41] So it's my understanding you don't really want the little homes.

[1:29:46] you'd prefer to have bigger trailers? Okay, who can afford all that? I was raised in a little

[1:29:53] trying a two-bedroom what I call trailer trash place in Lancaster with five kids.

[1:30:00] And my mom living in a little trailer. If my mom had to go through what this is to make her buy a bigger mobile home, is she worked as a waitress supporting five kids. I'm sure we have people here like that. How can they do that? They can't. And that within the days before we got welfare and snap and all this other stuff we're giving out today. So if a person has something now and it's working for their family and they're keeping it up, why do we need to make them change? It makes no sense to me at all. They are people that live here and they deserve a home.

[1:30:29] Thank you. Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone please. No chair. Come on down, Diane. Yeah, I think we're all Sam. I am self-worthed. So you, T-H-W-O-R-T-H, let my age and I am the queen of my own manufactured home.

[1:30:49] I could tell you that there could be a time when I would need to be closer to my family

[1:30:56] and have to live in a little one bedroom house or casino or manufactured home.

[1:31:04] I also saw some really cute plans or they look like little log cabins.

[1:31:08] You build yourself for 25,000 and they're completely done and they have a front porch on them and stuff.

[1:31:16] So there's options out there.

[1:31:18] I say that when I first read it,

[1:31:20] I thought they were going to do away with the manufactured homes,

[1:31:23] that after listening to them,

[1:31:26] I think it's a wonderful idea.

[1:31:28] And you never know what your family circumstances are going to be.

[1:31:33] Thank you.

[1:31:34] Come on down in front, please.

[1:31:42] Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON.

[1:31:45] Again, like somebody else mentioned,

[1:31:47] I believe that there is a misconception about manufactured homes.

[1:31:50] they are built in a factory and they're brought in in two pieces or there's something that

[1:31:55] are two stories high and at times they're built better quality than stick built.

[1:32:00] I think what the proposal here is, I think it's the necessity in this town because there

[1:32:05] are so few rental options and fewer options of affordability for a lot of people.

[1:32:12] I don't know how anybody else was brought up but I was brought up.

[1:32:15] But my parents, you know, you live with you and you take care of them as they age.

[1:32:20] And this will definitely help with that.

[1:32:22] So I think it's more than just, you know, something that they want.

[1:32:26] I think this town needs it to help with a lot of the living situations a lot of people

[1:32:33] are in.

[1:32:34] So.

[1:32:35] Good luck.

[1:32:36] Thank you.

[1:32:36] Sam, anybody on the phone please.

[1:32:40] Yes, chair.

[1:32:41] The caller is unmuted.

[1:32:42] Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[1:32:46] I'm Tim Bohen and DOHA and then Owen.

[1:32:50] Yeah, this is really an easy, easy call on this one.

[1:32:56] There's other similar towns to our size and a little bit beyond that this is not a major

[1:33:03] issue but some major importance, especially housing where we have here.

[1:33:09] We do need that help and this provides that opportunity and I'm in favor of passage.

[1:33:15] Thank you. Thanks. Go ahead, Bob. Robert Adams, ADAMS. Most of Clark County residents live in a

[1:33:26] metropolitan area, but it's a huge place with lots of rural communities that people in them are

[1:33:32] real proud about being in a rural community. And just because it's a rule where a law that

[1:33:38] ordinance that Clark County passed doesn't mean we shouldn't consider it, that there's a whole new

[1:33:44] technology as far as the small homes right now but right now the internet's

[1:33:49] hold these what's called capsule homes that get unloaded off a flat bed and

[1:33:54] this kind of build themselves that I guess big churches get in the proper get

[1:34:00] set on the proper ground and hard ground and get the utilities to it but are

[1:34:07] planning really needs to catch up with all the new technology is the tiny homes

[1:34:12] so that you're out there available with people.

[1:34:14] And this is a good step in the right direction

[1:34:17] and maybe expand a little bit to include some

[1:34:19] of the new stuff that's out there.

[1:34:20] Thank you.

[1:34:21] Thank you, sir.

[1:34:22] Come on down, Tammy.

[1:34:28] Tammy, fit in the PIT, MN.

[1:34:30] Great idea.

[1:34:31] However, I think it could be abused.

[1:34:33] And I think there should be an addition

[1:34:35] that the ordinance saying that at least the homeowner

[1:34:39] must be on the property.

[1:34:40] They can't rent out multiple.

[1:34:42] They can't just leave and rent out those homes.

[1:34:44] because when you live there you care. When you're renting things can go downhill and sometimes some landlords are not the shiniest. Thank you.

[1:34:54] Thank you Sam, anybody on the phone please.

[1:34:58] Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted.

[1:35:00] Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[1:35:05] Dr. Capua, K-A-P-U-A Johnson, J-O-H-N-S-O-N. I am in favor of passing this proposal for a manufacturer home as an ADU. It's practical. It's feasible for many people. I think we need to do it. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down. Yeah, I know. Right to the point. Oh, well, hell.

[1:35:33] Hello, Paul.

[1:35:34] All lemus, L-E-M-U-S, are you folks applicants?

[1:35:41] Oh, how many units are you trying to build if you don't mind me?

[1:35:43] So we got to just have you comment, I can't go back if it's okay with a may I may ask permission to ask them questions.

[1:35:50] Rules are the, okay, yes, okay, okay.

[1:35:53] No, the reason why I was saying though, you know, these developments come in and they do subdivide.

[1:36:01] But like in Amar Gosa Valley where we're at, we have something called land use entitlement rather than zoning.

[1:36:07] And we kind of roll back zoning and put it into the people's hands where they have a right to say, do they want to bill?

[1:36:14] Do they want to grow, do they want to farm, do they want to do agriculture?

[1:36:19] So land use entitlement is another designation.

[1:36:23] I was just going to make a suggestion as a planning guide to sat on the planning committee in Amar Gosa Valley.

[1:36:26] and worked on the comprehensive area plan for Nike and also MRGOSA Valley.

[1:36:32] It would be wise to just consider, that's fantastic and then when you do that type of project,

[1:36:38] you could also do like an approved plan and allow all the other members of the community to also go

[1:36:43] ahead and do a pre-approved plan to just be able to fast track these for everybody in the community,

[1:36:49] if somebody wanted to. Because right now our thing is capital, we need money,

[1:36:53] And these, this would generate a ton of tax revenue.

[1:36:57] I mean, where we're looking at, and I'm going to go to Savali, you know, if you were to subdivide some of those lots and actually occupy them, we could solve a lot of our problems with our tax debt and with our commissioner and our night county debt right now.

[1:37:08] So I was just going to say, I think for the project, as far as their approval is concerned, that's what I wanted to ask was their personal approval.

[1:37:15] You know, I'm for the people, I want to see the people be able to do what they want with their land, and be able to make some money, be able to subdivide them if they want, and be able to sell them and have the rights to do what they want with their property.

[1:37:25] So that's land use entitlement.

[1:37:28] Thank you.

[1:37:29] Same anybody on the phone, please.

[1:37:32] No chair, one down, sir.

[1:37:34] Oh,

[1:37:38] members, everybody.

[1:37:39] Bruce Johnson, GOHN, that's all right.

[1:37:42] You know, I'm all for making necessary changes in order to be able to bring in optional housing facilities, structures.

[1:37:56] I don't want to see it be limited, just manufactured homes or which everybody is classifying as manufactured homes.

[1:38:04] there are actually great homes are built out of shipping containers I'm in

[1:38:09] development with somebody on now building basically a steel stud type of

[1:38:18] structure that is actually going to be cited with lightweight concrete so that

[1:38:23] it is fireproof it will not be able to burn unless you catch up on fire on the

[1:38:28] inside and I find that is being something that could be very useful for a lot

[1:38:34] of people out here in our climate so I want to see to it that everybody

[1:38:39] keeps an open mind so that we can have some other options. Let's not keep

[1:38:44] it limited to just manufactured homes that everybody knows it comes in on a

[1:38:48] trailer and I'll yield. Thank you. Thank you. Come on, Dale, ma'am.

[1:38:57] Good morning.

[1:38:58] Julia Mughal, M-U-S-A-L-L. This is actually kind of ironic that it's on the

[1:39:05] agenda today. I have a manufactured home, three-bedroom two-bath. My mother is

[1:39:13] almost 92 and I'm trying to talk her into coming here. But my mother still

[1:39:19] drives, plays billiards, gardens, plays botchyball, and she did not want to come because she

[1:39:29] likes her independence.

[1:39:31] Even though she still needs somebody to be around her, and we talked about putting

[1:39:38] something on the property, it doesn't have to be a big huge manufactured home.

[1:39:44] They have a smaller manufactured homes.

[1:39:47] and why put all that money into it and then have somebody have to remove it, because especially nowadays, our economy is

[1:40:00] So bad that I'm sure there's plenty of family members that would be able to use, you know, the ADU. And so anyway, I am, I am for it. And I hope you guys approve it. Thank you. Thank you. Sam, anybody else, please.

[1:40:24] No, sir. Okay, we're going to close out public comment, commissioners, do you have questions for the applicants? No, I just have statements if you don't mind. There was stuff that was said.

[1:40:34] I understand that it's 1,500 square foot or less, and we already have casitas, which are site belts.

[1:40:42] The difference, what this does, is we already have a site built capability.

[1:40:47] Now, we're going to have a manufactured capability.

[1:40:51] And so, manufactured could be basically a lot of different things, not just manufactured housing as we see it from factory home center.

[1:40:59] I also found it very interesting that 14 people actually agreed with this.

[1:41:03] Wow, I'm floored, we actually agree on something, thank you Chair.

[1:41:10] Thank you, Commissioner's up north, you got anything for us?

[1:41:14] Mr. Chair, there's nothing else I'd like to make a motion.

[1:41:18] I'd like to hear one.

[1:41:20] Mr. Chairman, may I just read that briefly?

[1:41:23] My only question is that manufactured homes is a term, and I'm supportive of this, but

[1:41:31] just the ambiguity that was just inserted, this could be more than just manufactured homes.

[1:41:35] I'm just questioning what that means.

[1:41:38] A manufactured home can be depending on who you're talking to, different things.

[1:41:44] Anyone who uses certain systems knows that manufactured home is commonly referred to as a mobile home.

[1:41:51] That's fine. When it's attached, it has a certificate of attachment and some guy goes and takes three bars and twists them and they signs the magic piece of paper that says this is now attached.

[1:42:01] She gets filed with the assessor and it becomes real property. The legal definition of real property, of course, is separate.

[1:42:07] And so we can talk about this for 35 minutes, I won't do that.

[1:42:10] My question is just bluntly and directly, is this only pertains to manufactured housing that is attached? Is that correct?

[1:42:18] Can anyone answer that question?

[1:42:21] So no, it's not.

[1:42:23] You can do either a site built ADU, or you can do a manufactured home that is an ADU.

[1:42:28] So now if you're going to be financing the home as a chattelone, it will maintain its personal

[1:42:32] property status, but after it's paid off, then it can be converted.

[1:42:36] If it's cash, or if they want to absorb it, do like a refire or something like that, then

[1:42:41] it would be converted to real property.

[1:42:42] It just depends on the specific circumstance.

[1:42:46] Also, I want to point out that in the year 2000 Senate Bill 323 took the discrimination of manufactured homes away and identified them as single-family dwellings and that manufactured homes to go in sub-evisions alongside conventional built, stick-built homes without discriminating against them.

[1:43:11] So, manufactured homes in the state of Nevada are considered single-family dwellings.

[1:43:19] Okay, so the question, first of all, Fannie Mae is not going to buy that.

[1:43:23] So it would have to be a hard money alone.

[1:43:25] And that just causes a lot of complications.

[1:43:27] I hope for anyone listening genuinely understands that Fannie Mae, I don't know if FHA

[1:43:32] will ensure it.

[1:43:33] This goes away into, inside baseball stuff, but Fannie Mae is not going to buy that probably.

[1:43:38] And so there will be a lot of issues there that has nothing to do with this law.

[1:43:41] But again, I'm just, I'm just questioning it just for the legislative record.

[1:43:45] The intent of this is just for, there's manufactured homes that are attached, there are manufactured homes that are not attached, both are commonly purchased in, in, in, in Nye County, and, and that's fine.

[1:43:56] But how do we distinguish the difference between if I, if I just rolled up, I don't know, pick up truck with, you know, some crazy looking thing in the back of it.

[1:44:08] And I'm living out of there that could be considered an accessory dwelling unit under this bill.

[1:44:15] I want to point out that anything can be an accessory dwelling.

[1:44:21] Connex boxes that are converted into housing.

[1:44:25] Boxable, which is a company that is growing by big numbers that build casitas in ADUs.

[1:44:34] They are regulated through the manufactured housing division along with what I sell.

[1:44:40] And I'm not the only one, even though I'm bringing this bill.

[1:44:46] I'm speaking for the industry in general.

[1:44:49] We've got craftsman homes that is going to applaud if we get this passed because they're going to be able to sell more homes too.

[1:44:57] I'm not doing this to sell more homes.

[1:45:00] We've got Clayton Homes out of Vegas, which is a very big catalog store, and we've got all kinds of Internet dealerships. They're all going to be selling homes, and they're not just factory-built homes. There are all kinds of homes that are going to fit this bill. I'd also Celeste Sanable, S-A-N-D-O-V-A-L, like to say that we do have a section of code in 1704 that deal with manufactured housing and factory-built homes. That does set an age limit.

[1:45:29] But it does state that they have to be converted to real property, so they aren't just able to come in.

[1:45:36] Thank you.

[1:45:36] I appreciate that, I think that addresses it, and this is just manufactured home housing.

[1:45:40] That's a yes or a question, is it, yes, is that correct?

[1:45:43] Yeah, I'm fully supportive.

[1:45:44] I think we're fine, I just, part of this was just me trying to let people know that just be aware.

[1:45:51] I, in my business, have a lot of people who don't really understand, and there's a lot of places in my county that fall in this, and they don't understand that Fannie Mae won't buy this.

[1:45:58] and if any may won't buy this, your friendly broker

[1:46:00] around this tree probably doesn't want to originate it.

[1:46:02] It's a whole long thing, but just reach out

[1:46:05] if you have any questions about what you have

[1:46:06] or what you're doing.

[1:46:07] I'm sure that Mr. Schulte is a great resource for this.

[1:46:12] Go to him or go to anybody who does this for a living

[1:46:14] and they'll be able to explain what it's up to you.

[1:46:15] I am supportive of this, but thank you, Mr. Chair.

[1:46:18] Thank you.

[1:46:18] I wanted to touch a little bit on the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

[1:46:21] This would be for subsequent, like,

[1:46:23] say that you already have a home and you have an A to U unit

[1:46:25] on there.

[1:46:25] I actually did check there's some lenders that won't do it.

[1:46:28] there's some lenders that will. So Fannie Mae will not, but FHA, you can. That's

[1:46:33] Freddie Mac. So you would just have to do FHA loan is what you would have to do

[1:46:37] and make sure you talked to your particular lender to make sure their

[1:46:40] underwriters will approve. And the one thing that I did find is the homes that

[1:46:45] people have where they have two homes on there already, they were not approved

[1:46:50] through the county as an ADU. So the way it zoned or land use, it says it's

[1:46:55] two single-family residences, and that's one of the underwriters' issues.

[1:46:59] It has to be listed as an ADU unit, not two single-family residences.

[1:47:04] Thank you, ma'am.

[1:47:05] I think she isn't sure if any may as a purchaser, they have to have a funding source.

[1:47:09] It gets really confusing.

[1:47:10] I'm just telling people.

[1:47:11] I'm not trying to scare people, just make sure that you know what you're doing if you're

[1:47:14] going to do this, and you'll find out first from someone like Mr. Shilty or whoever handles

[1:47:19] these things professionally.

[1:47:20] Thank you, sir.

[1:47:20] Thank you, Madam.

[1:47:22] Thank you.

[1:47:22] Commissioner Cone, are you ready?

[1:47:24] I'm ready.

[1:47:25] I would like to make a motion to adopt 90 bill 2026, there's 12 within effective date of September 21st, 2026.

[1:47:36] Second.

[1:47:37] Two more seconds.

[1:47:39] We have a motion on the floor in two seconds.

[1:47:41] I'm going to call for the vote.

[1:47:42] Aye.

[1:47:44] Two more.

[1:47:44] Aye.

[1:47:45] Baskovich aye, that carries 5-0.

[1:47:47] Thank you, guys.

[1:47:48] Thank you, Celeste.

[1:47:49] Yeah.

[1:47:50] Thank you, guys, very much.

[1:47:51] Thank you.

[1:47:53] Okay, all right,

[1:48:02] let's do seven, please, whoever wants to read it.

[1:48:07] Item seven, 10 o'clock a.m. for possible action, public hearing, discussion, and deliberation

[1:48:13] on a CCMP26-4, an application for a major master plan amendment to change by parcels 78.99

[1:48:22] 9 acres from rural density residential to low density residential to conform with a proposed zone change located at 1-8-10 south persons road 1-8-1-1 south Butler street 3-3-1-0 east winery road 3-4-4-0 east winery road and 3-1-2-0 east winery road

[1:48:42] data 89049, Assessor's Personal Numbers, 027451-1302745106, 02745107, 02745108, 02745109,

[1:49:05] Dennis

[1:49:08] 2-5-12, a conforming zone change to change six parcels totaling 79.43 acres from Village

[1:49:16] Residential VR-22 Village Residential VR-10 for the proposed residential subdivisions

[1:49:22] to create 198 single-family lots ranging from approximately 10,000 to 20,000 square feet

[1:49:29] located at 1-810 South Parsons Road, 1-811 South Butler Street, 3-310 East Winery Road,

[1:50:00] 7, 4, 5, 1, 0, 8, 0, 2, 7, 4, 5, 1, 0, 9, Dennis Scott, Sheldon, property owner, Timothy Sutton, ESQ,

[1:50:08] agent, applicant, and C, Certified Print Regional Planning Commission Resolution 2026-03,

[1:50:16] a resolution to amend the master plan designation within the Print Regional Planning District,

[1:50:20] district located at 1-810 South Parsons Road, 1-811 South Butler Street, 3-310 East Winery Road, 3-4-4-0 East Winery Road, and 3-1-2-0 East Winery Road.

[1:50:32] from Nevada 89048, assessors' personal number 02745113, 02745106, 02745107, 02745108, 02745109, Dennis

[1:50:49] Scott-Sheldon, property owner, Thomas Helms, PLS, Dwyer, engineering, ink, agent, applicant.

[1:50:55] Thank you.

[1:50:57] Thank you.

[1:50:58] Thank you.

[1:51:00] Hello,

[1:51:03] Keyanna.

[1:51:04] Hello.

[1:51:05] Keyanna, Madisi, QIA and A, MED, ICI, Principal Planner.

[1:51:11] The Parampirational Planning Commission heard this item at their July 15, 2026 meeting.

[1:51:18] After discussion of the items, the PRPC voted 4-2 to recommend approval to the Board of

[1:51:23] county commissioners and we are here with the applicant if you have any questions.

[1:51:31] All right thank you for that so I think what we're going to do is open up public

[1:51:34] comment so come on up.

[1:51:43] Good morning Julie and I'm use all Amazon Mary USALL. This

[1:51:49] application is procedurally flawed and violates night county code Title 17

[1:51:55] do process. First, the developer completely failed to hold the mandatory neighborhood meeting.

[1:52:02] This workshop is a strict prerequisite under our zoning codes. It is designed to give local citizens

[1:52:10] a voice before an application moves forward. Bypassing entirely strips the community of our legal rights to do process.

[1:52:19] A developer's application is legally classified as incomplete.

[1:52:25] The Perump Regional Planning Commission failed to uphold county code regarding neighbor

[1:52:30] notifications.

[1:52:31] They approved a recommendation for this despite a documented breach of bill number 202-3.09.

[1:52:40] Because the developer, the mandatory community outreach, we asked the board of county commissioners

[1:52:47] to exercise its final authority, reject the recommendation

[1:52:52] and deny the applicant and developer's application.

[1:52:57] The recommendation of approval is legally compromised

[1:53:01] because it was built on a broken notice process.

[1:53:05] Night County chose to protect its residents

[1:53:08] by adopting Title 17 zoning code.

[1:53:12] I already filed a formal complaint

[1:53:14] with the planning department regarding

[1:53:16] Starting this structural violation, voting to approve this project today creates a dangerous

[1:53:21] precedent and exposes the county to legal appeals over notice and due process failures

[1:53:28] for the protection of per-romp residents and the integrity of our land use laws, I strongly

[1:53:34] urge the board to reject this.

[1:53:37] Thank you.

[1:53:38] Thank you, Sam.

[1:53:39] Anybody on the phone, please.

[1:53:42] Yes, chair.

[1:53:42] The caller is unmuted.

[1:53:43] Please speak and spoil your name for the record.

[1:53:48] Hello, commissioners, Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A, and if it's okay with y'all, I'd

[1:53:55] just like to know that my communications okay and our line is active.

[1:54:02] Can you

[1:54:02] acknowledge? Go ahead, sir. Oh, thank you, thank you. I appreciate

[1:54:08] thank you, thank you. Kudos to the last speaker. Really well said and articulated.

[1:54:14] And the thing that caught my ear and hopefully our state and federal partners have that affiliated disclosure when it came to Tim Sutton.

[1:54:26] So that's how easy it is to go X for a take. Thank y'all.

[1:54:31] Come on down, Beth.

[1:54:36] That's for Savage, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

[1:54:41] I'm speaking on this as a regular person,

[1:54:44] and not a representative of the RPC.

[1:54:50] I want everybody to be sure and listen to this.

[1:54:54] This is 198 homes on top of the approximately

[1:54:59] that we

[1:55:00] 9,000 homes that are already in the pipeline being proposed on property with known flooding concerns.

[1:55:11] So we're talking 9,900 homes. What the hell? Let's just go ahead and build homes for the heck of it.

[1:55:18] The applicant proposes berms and detention basins on the property to hold the water that comes from the flooding.

[1:55:28] Why increase the density now before we know whether the infrastructure and drainage systems

[1:55:34] necessary to support that increased density will actually work?

[1:55:39] We do not have the infrastructure to support this.

[1:55:43] We need to understand our water and infrastructure and the length of time needed to plan for it

[1:55:48] before adding more density.

[1:55:51] I am here to protect the integrity of the master plan.

[1:55:55] The master plan provides predictability, reflects community values, and guides growth.

[1:56:02] If the county changes a master plan every time a developer comes in and says that they

[1:56:07] want to change it, what the heck is our master plan for?

[1:56:12] I mean, we wrote it, we spent hours and hours, and now you guys just, I don't understand

[1:56:18] why you keep changing these things.

[1:56:20] What has changed since the adoption of a master plan that justifies change in the property from rural density residential to low density?

[1:56:30] Do we get new jobs, infrastructure, more schools?

[1:56:33] Do we discover another aquifer?

[1:56:36] If none of these things have changed.

[1:56:38] Thank you, Beth.

[1:56:39] Thank you.

[1:56:40] Sam, you got anybody for us, please.

[1:56:43] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[1:56:45] Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[1:56:49] Yes, Amy Nelson, NEL, S-O-N, if this is the one that I was listening to at the planning

[1:56:57] and zoning meeting, there are many reasons not to accept it.

[1:57:03] Kim Sutton spoke up for the owner who was not available to speak to anyone else except

[1:57:09] for him on the phone.

[1:57:10] There were a lot of questions that went unanswered.

[1:57:14] And part of this is a release of distance of the leeway.

[1:57:21] It was 1,000 feet.

[1:57:23] Now it's, if this one is correct, it's 300 feet.

[1:57:27] And the height of buildings was removed.

[1:57:31] It's in there somewhere from the same room.

[1:57:35] So this will open the door for a lot of things other than homes.

[1:57:40] If we protest too much, they'll push the more of their solar farms right there.

[1:57:48] They can use as much water.

[1:57:49] They've resorted to saying that's the equivalent of so many homes anyway.

[1:57:56] So I'm not convinced that they won't use it.

[1:57:59] If they can't use it for data centers, they'll use it for solar farms.

[1:58:04] So I'm not in favor of this at all.

[1:58:06] Thank you.

[1:58:07] Thank you.

[1:58:08] And come on, Dancer, and we're on item 7.

[1:58:14] Stephen Pittman, P-I-T-M-A-N, I live on winery road, and the current heavy truck traffic

[1:58:20] continues to destroy the sides of the road.

[1:58:23] If one of these trucks is coming towards you, you both must put your right side tires off

[1:58:29] the road to pass safely.

[1:58:31] I have an 8-inch-by-8-inch ditch at the end of my driveway, I must refill every time it rains.

[1:58:35] The addition of two to 400 cars daily, guessing on everybody is going to work, plus service and delivery vehicles will further erode the road, even as some of the vehicles exit the development onto Cortina Street.

[1:58:52] If you thought traffic at 160 and homestead was bad, just wait and do you see how bad the traffic at 160 and winery becomes? Should this development be permitted?

[1:59:04] You all have this, I live there, right in the middle of it.

[1:59:11] Is there a need for 198 tightly packed point two acre houses in this area?

[1:59:18] There are over 200 empty half acre logs in the winery area between Warnery Road and

[1:59:23] Zuni Avenue.

[1:59:23] I counted this morning.

[1:59:25] Finally, the addition of multi-story houses in this development will restrict my view of

[1:59:31] of the Mt. Charleston Range.

[1:59:33] I urge you to deny this.

[1:59:35] Thank you.

[1:59:36] Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

[1:59:40] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[1:59:42] Please speak in the spoiler name for the record.

[1:59:47] My name is Matt Sather, F-A-D-L-E-R.

[1:59:50] There's gonna have to come a point in time

[1:59:53] where we have to kind of put our foot down

[1:59:55] and stop measures like this.

[1:59:59] The plan calls for...

[2:00:05] Number of thinkors and conveniences to speak, to reflect their

[2:00:29] community, not just my decent, thanks a lot.

[2:00:32] Thank you, come on down in front, please.

[2:00:38] Angelina Jackson, J-A-C-K-S-O-N.

[2:00:41] There seems to be a pattern here where residents

[2:00:43] are not notified prior to projects beginning in areas.

[2:00:48] This is not the first one.

[2:00:50] So if that's trying to be skimmed by

[2:00:52] without notifying the residents,

[2:00:54] and I'm sorry, but Mr. Sutton here has a pattern

[2:00:58] of being dishonest with the community.

[2:01:01] So, with that alone, best say a lot.

[2:01:06] Now, besides that, I don't understand why it's things like this that are not necessary,

[2:01:14] that it's no way going to benefit anybody in the community.

[2:01:18] All right?

[2:01:19] Unlike the other issue that we had on the agenda, there was a benefit to the community.

[2:01:25] It's nobody's looking at how it's affecting the other residents on anything it seems like.

[2:01:31] And I think that, you know, certain things need to be reviewed.

[2:01:34] I think maybe the commissioners need to go out there and view the area before making

[2:01:39] decisions on anything.

[2:01:41] And as far as I can see, the planning commission nor this board ever goes out to these properties

[2:01:47] or to these proposed sites to view the area to get an idea of what's going on.

[2:01:52] So how you guys can make a decision on anything based off of that is beyond me.

[2:01:57] And as far as I'm concerned, though, this should be denied.

[2:02:00] Thank you.

[2:02:01] Thank you.

[2:02:02] Thank you, Sam.

[2:02:02] Anybody on the phone?

[2:02:03] Please.

[2:02:04] Yes, chair.

[2:02:05] The caller is unmuted.

[2:02:06] Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[2:02:11] Trisha from R-O-B-B.

[2:02:15] Sorry.

[2:02:16] It has been sick.

[2:02:18] Yeah.

[2:02:19] I agree with everyone else.

[2:02:21] And not only that, I'm kind of tired of seeing all these developers come in here and

[2:02:27] and try and take over our town

[2:02:28] when it's supposed to be a rural,

[2:02:31] unincorporated town.

[2:02:33] I don't know whatever happened to the code of the West,

[2:02:35] but it seems to have been forgotten.

[2:02:38] And I think that everybody would like

[2:02:39] to have more of the code of the West.

[2:02:41] Not only that, I feel as though giving priority

[2:02:44] to other people for these big developments

[2:02:48] is basically overseeing all of the utility challenge lots

[2:02:52] and their rights.

[2:02:53] they deserve to not be ignored. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, sir.

[2:03:02] Good afternoon. Richard Hunter, HUN TER. I also live on Winery Road. I've been there

[2:03:11] less than five years and we've had three different occasions where public works had to

[2:03:16] come out and clean the road. Recently we had a little pond going at Winery down by the

[2:03:23] mobile station, with all the heavy trucks we ended up with a broken water main.

[2:03:28] So, you know, I'm not against people developing things, but until we have the proper drainage,

[2:03:37] you know, it's just not going to work, and flood control is something that's getting

[2:03:42] out of hand in this community because, I mean, look if we cover up 80 acres, where's that

[2:03:49] water going to go?

[2:03:50] It's not fair to the people when you're sending all that water and debris into their property.

[2:03:59] I'm against it unless there's some good, maybe we need to look at some different ways to qualify these people for building there.

[2:04:11] And flood control has got to be one of them, thank you.

[2:04:15] Thank you, sir.

[2:04:16] Come on down, sir.

[2:04:16] Okay,

[2:04:28] my name is Mike McKenzie, M-A-C-K-E-N-C-I-E splash mall B-H-L.

[2:04:34] After 42 years experience in water quality management, water quality distribution management,

[2:04:40] member of American society civil engineers since 1994, in water facilities construction.

[2:04:47] Commissioners, I'm against this zoning change.

[2:04:50] Simple reason, smaller logs do not create more water, more road money, more share.

[2:04:56] fire, fire, fire, fire, fire.

[2:04:58] See, you only create more.

[2:05:00] Our house is on the same land. Basin 162s, we already know, is a verb pumped over allocated. You just voted 50 for a water ban, because it was not sufficient to take that giant demand. Housing density is the same math on a smaller scale. A half acre lot is one household. Cut that down to 10,000, 20,000 square feet. Then now you're typing four more toilets, more sinks.

[2:05:29] more landscape, more people washing the cars.

[2:05:33] We can't handle it.

[2:05:34] And rezoning does not add one acre foot of water

[2:05:38] to the soccer park.

[2:05:40] It's going to take away roads, services, work area.

[2:05:45] They all work the same way.

[2:05:46] More houses means more road trips that are already failing.

[2:05:50] Take a look at Haven Ranch Road.

[2:05:52] You have that development going there.

[2:05:54] That road is crap.

[2:05:55] Sorry for my language.

[2:05:56] So again, I'm just against it, please be careful with what you do.

[2:06:01] We only have one heart, don't have more people to it.

[2:06:05] Thank you, sir.

[2:06:06] Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

[2:06:12] No chair.

[2:06:13] One down, Linda.

[2:06:16] Linda Clark, sale the RK.

[2:06:19] I heard the last meeting we went to when they talked about this project.

[2:06:23] Sounds nice and a nice neighborhood, but I listened to the people that lived there and talked about

[2:06:27] the flooding, the bad streets.

[2:06:30] in a flood zone and how many problems they were having with the water and I think

[2:06:35] and why are we doing this to people? Doesn't make any sense.

[2:06:43] It's lunacy if you

[2:06:44] ask me. All these building in these new homes, they're lovely. Sure they are.

[2:06:49] Cost a lot of money. We have a lot of them sitting vacant because they can't sell

[2:06:53] them. We have a lot of houses in the development around the whole town that

[2:06:57] aren't selling. And I understand that our property value is based on a figure I heard this morning

[2:07:03] or yesterday had gone down at least 2% to probably more than that. So if we're going to keep

[2:07:09] building homes, what's the purpose if there's not going to be anybody that wants them? Yeah, eventually

[2:07:15] you might sell them, but we've got a lot of problems there we need to solve before we get to that point.

[2:07:19] And we can't keep building homes and keep using water we don't have to, for who? Developers?

[2:07:26] There's nothing I get, Mr. Sudden, in his fact.

[2:07:29] I don't care who it is.

[2:07:31] There is too much of this going on in our community that needs to stop.

[2:07:36] We've got to take a stop and start looking at where are we going.

[2:07:41] I understand even the fairgrounds is on a flood zone.

[2:07:44] Do you think the BLM wanted to keep it?

[2:07:46] No, give it to the city to count.

[2:07:49] They didn't want it.

[2:07:50] Okay, so where do we go from here?

[2:07:52] We need to just put a big stop, a big plug in the hole and start looking at where we're

[2:07:59] going in this town and why are we over building the stuff that we don't need.

[2:08:03] You think all these people are going to come here and fill these homes?

[2:08:06] There's no jobs.

[2:08:07] Oh, I know.

[2:08:08] We're going to have the solar jobs and we're going to have all the DC jobs.

[2:08:12] That's a bunch of bull crap and we know it.

[2:08:15] So where are the people going to work?

[2:08:17] Yeah, we're going to have a lot of kids.

[2:08:19] I heard we had 22,000 kids here.

[2:08:21] Do you believe that?

[2:08:21] Thank you, say I'm anybody on the phone please. No chair. Come on down, sir

[2:08:30] Michael Bergen last name is B. U. R. G. A. N. I

[2:08:35] Opposed this change for three reasons

[2:08:37] First, I think the master plan is already

[2:08:40] Identified enough acreage for high-density subdivisions. We don't need to add any more a second

[2:08:46] I believe the plan submitted violates NCC

[2:08:51] 16.28.

[2:08:52] 8.155 that says you can't have lots less than 20,000 square feet unless you have a PUD or an approved development agreement and either exists.

[2:09:04] Third, this lot is for sale. The owner from Vegas bought it for a million. He's selling it for $7.5 million.

[2:09:12] Hasn't been improved. He has no intention to build on it.

[2:09:16] The zone change has only one goal to increase his profit.

[2:09:21] So, commissioners, you want to side with your constituents in Prump who are against this?

[2:09:28] Or do you want to take the side of a land speculator from Clark County?

[2:09:33] Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[2:09:37] No, Chair.

[2:09:38] Well done, Anthony.

[2:09:43] Anthony Greco, GR Recio, I'm against this.

[2:09:46] I don't think until after July of 27, and we get our water study, we should do anything more than one of two homes at a time.

[2:09:55] people who have property for years that want to retire here that's fine. Any

[2:10:00] These developments, we don't need it, and everything we don't want, Tim Sutton is representing them people. Okay, this seems to be a problem to me. I don't know if he's a bad guy or not, but in my opinion, I'm going to need two showers just to get some standing next to him.

[2:10:16] We

[2:10:19] can be polite, say I'm anybody on the phone please.

[2:10:26] No chair.

[2:10:26] Monday on Deborah.

[2:10:33] Deborah Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S.

[2:10:40] This is not a good thing, especially after what I just heard the previous gentleman say.

[2:10:52] but I know that developers buy and buy make improvements, make changes to zoning or whatever and then they sell it for a major profit.

[2:11:06] I don't think we need to, we should be doing that in Nye County.

[2:11:11] It needs to be, the developer is going to build on it.

[2:11:15] And it needs to be the developers going to pay for the extra infrastructure to prevent the flooding.

[2:11:25] And if they decide that they want to have a community water system, they need to pay for that too.

[2:11:36] I feel very strongly about that coming from a family of builders and developers.

[2:11:40] come

[2:11:43] on down sir.

[2:11:48] Commissioners, Reggie, Federal, FED are all. You know our family we love

[2:11:56] Prump and the housing having 100 additional 198 homes. We live up in that direction on

[2:12:03] the winery. On small parcels it's going to look like a mini Las Vegas to me it will anyway.

[2:12:11] way. And I think we need to rethink this out before we agree to this. You know, there's

[2:12:19] going to be a lot of, you know, construction vehicles and we go up winery road and it's

[2:12:25] not getting any better because of the trucks going up and down it, the road issues, surface

[2:12:32] damage. You know, and here again, I'm thinking about the aquifier, you know, the water situation

[2:12:40] I know you mentioned that Ron, you know, it's just bewildered me.

[2:12:45] I think we need to do more research less homes and maybe one or two at the most.

[2:12:52] You know, I really think this strategically on this phone.

[2:12:58] Thank you.

[2:12:59] Thank you, sir.

[2:13:00] Come on down, Susie.

[2:13:06] Susie Hurts, H-E-R-T-Z, Mr. Bergram was right on spot and I think some of this information

[2:13:15] need to come out here because of the people who are sitting in this audience who didn't read the backup and don't know the history.

[2:13:21] I attended the RPC meeting where this was voted upon, and there were dozens of people speaking against this project for a variety of very logical reasons.

[2:13:33] I also read the backup for this item today, and there are dozens and dozens of no responses from the residents

[2:13:43] within the immediate area of this project.

[2:13:48] So there are lots of knows, even though the RPC passed it.

[2:13:54] They only passed it four to two.

[2:13:55] So it was not a conclusive super enthusiastic response.

[2:14:01] And I think a lot of that is because of the push that comes

[2:14:04] from the planning department.

[2:14:06] And once again, I'm going to say that I think that there's too much

[2:14:10] that happens in the planning department that then gets

[2:14:14] foisted upon the RPC and then you,

[2:14:16] and you have little to say about it,

[2:14:19] or you do say little about it.

[2:14:22] 298 homes on quarter acre lots or less

[2:14:26] is going to be every housing development that you see

[2:14:29] in Las Vegas when you drive in on Blue Diamond.

[2:14:33] Little box houses, three stories tall inches apart

[2:14:37] from each other.

[2:14:38] That is not peromp.

[2:14:39] We don't have the infrastructure for it.

[2:14:43] The application does not include there doing anything about the schools,

[2:14:48] fire, and police, and neither has anybody in the county spoken to that.

[2:14:54] We don't have infrastructure for that for 198 homes,

[2:14:59] equally.

[2:15:00] Meeting, at least 400 new residents, likely 600 or 800 residents or 1000 residents, and the cars to go with it. Thanks. So, no, please. Yes, chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spoil your name for the record.

[2:15:18] Hi, my name is Dawn Murphy, and you are PHY. And I have a twofold problem up here. I live up in the vineyards right next to the plan subdivision or whatever it's going to be.

[2:15:33] and I don't want that in my neighborhood.

[2:15:36] That's too many houses.

[2:15:38] 189 houses is too many.

[2:15:41] We already have too many subdivisions going in

[2:15:43] with these small little locks.

[2:15:44] I really don't want this to continue to go on.

[2:15:50] Also, you do realize that one of the roads

[2:15:54] that goes up against is called industrial road.

[2:15:56] We have gravel pits over there.

[2:15:58] And I own gravel pits over there.

[2:15:59] I own a gravel pit over there.

[2:16:01] I don't own I own yards over there. So when they get this in are they're going to start giving me a

[2:16:07] problem because now, you know, they move next to my business. They I didn't move next to theirs.

[2:16:13] You know, those businesses have been up there for years. So I am thoroughly opposed for all the

[2:16:21] reasons everybody else has stated, including my own. Thank you so much. Have a nice day.

[2:16:25] Thank you, Don. Come on up, Tammy.

[2:16:32] Tammy Pittman, P-I-T-M again.

[2:16:35] So, yes, I live in the winery.

[2:16:38] And the winery is currently zone for two homes per acre.

[2:16:42] There are some homes in the vineyard that receive permission for a quarter-acre lots,

[2:16:47] but predominantly it's all half-acre lots.

[2:16:50] Perump has high density developments in the south end of town.

[2:16:53] And if we have to have them, which I'm not a fan of, they need to stay there.

[2:16:58] people move to Perump to own a house that is not cheek-by-jowl with their neighbors,

[2:17:04] and they move here to Perump to have a home. They also want 360-degree stunning views that we have.

[2:17:13] The Las Vegas style hand your neighbor a cup of sugar out the window needs to stay in Vegas.

[2:17:20] They're planning for down to a 16th of an acre lot with zero lot lines.

[2:17:25] I already know anyone whose property is on the lower winery or on Parsons Road will no longer enjoy our stunning sunsets and will lose their privacy as people are peering over their back fence into their backyards.

[2:17:41] These are front yards depending if you're down winery.

[2:17:46] The three-story homes, excuse me, their property values are also going to plummet.

[2:17:51] It's common knowledge that our basin is already severely over-allocated, and the proposed

[2:17:58] density would put eight times the water usage been currently allocated.

[2:18:02] That's unconscionable.

[2:18:04] We already have two minutes.

[2:18:07] The owner of this property does not have, live here, and does not experience the effects

[2:18:11] of this urban blight in the midst of our town.

[2:18:13] The motivations for anyone championing this project should be examined closely, please vote no.

[2:18:21] Perfect timing, thank you, come on down the way

[2:18:29] up, up, there you go.

[2:18:32] White Lilli, LIO, LY, I was at the planning board meeting when this room was packed with people from the winery objecting to this development.

[2:18:41] And I guess I'm just not understanding, my wife and I moved here, this is going on 24 years to a rural town.

[2:18:50] and it was laid out with master plans and master plans have been redone and now we

[2:18:55] seem to be tearing the master plan up. One development at a time bring again high

[2:19:02] density housing into a rural town, which is by its very nature would be larger

[2:19:09] lots. Now this is affecting the people up in up in the winery district but it's

[2:19:15] also affecting people driving on home's dead that we'll see another 400-500 cars a day

[2:19:21] coming on to 160 in an intersection. It's already screwed up from the gas station. It was built

[2:19:28] there on the corner. So there's that issue. They've got the flooding issue. The county and

[2:19:35] the town doesn't have the resource to the service, the population it has now, yet it's anticipating

[2:19:42] adding thousands of more people, commissioners, this doesn't make any sense as

[2:19:46] development. I'm not going to speak on another one that's on the agenda, but why

[2:19:51] are we continually having people come to the planning commission, coming to the

[2:19:57] planning planners and getting approved?

[2:20:00] Global for density housing, high density housing when we're a rural town with limited resource. We have 12,000 acre feet of confirmed water from the last study with another 3,000 acre feet deeper to the ground that we haven't even explored yet. And yet we keep piling people into this. I still don't understand it. I want you to turn this down. I want you to turn them leaf here and go by the master plan we have right now. Thank you.

[2:20:29] Thank you, come on down in front, please.

[2:20:35] Hi commissioners, Mary, Greenspan, Blackwell, B-L-A-C-K-W-I-L.

[2:20:42] I'm just here to speak from my heart today.

[2:20:45] Everyone's giving you such great legal advice and this and that,

[2:20:50] but I moved here 30 years ago and I was in real estate.

[2:20:55] When I first started selling out here 30 years ago,

[2:20:58] people were coming to me. They wanted an acre lot. They wanted horse property.

[2:21:04] And that's the way it was for many years. And then that people were happy when the

[2:21:10] half acre homes came in because an acre is too big for some people.

[2:21:15] And then we were so thrilled when mountain falls started developing. It gave

[2:21:21] the people that wanted that type of living area, a place to live.

[2:21:27] and everybody was happy. And all the 30 years that I was working here sold hundreds and

[2:21:34] hundreds of properties and homes. I never once had anybody come and say, oh, I'd like

[2:21:40] to live in a little box that's right next door where I don't if I sneeze, somebody's

[2:21:46] going to hear me. That's not why any of us moved here to Perump. We love this place, the

[2:21:53] the way it is. And I understand development. I understand progress. I'm not against it.

[2:21:58] But please, you guys are the stewards of this valley. Would you just please think twice before you, you know, make this a place that I got to go down to Vegas and look at that ugly, those ugly homes as I'm going down blue diamond. We don't, I don't want to look out my window and see that. And I don't think you do either. Thank you. Please vote no.

[2:22:21] No, thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone please.

[2:22:32] No chair.

[2:22:33] I heard that close public comment.

[2:22:35] All right, commissioners, questions for the folks, any folks?

[2:22:43] There is-

[2:22:43] The chairman there.

[2:22:44] Oh, sorry, go ahead.

[2:22:47] You meet my gal, if you like it, it's up to you.

[2:22:51] Mr. Chairman, do you want me to speak?

[2:22:53] Yeah, go ahead, sir.

[2:22:54] I'm, thank you, thank you, Mr. Chair.

[2:22:58] This is my district.

[2:22:59] So I obviously know more about this than some of their developments going on or one thing I want to point out is a strange thing that happens here with property discussions and I want everyone to be aware of this.

[2:23:13] I've heard the same people talking about property rights and saying, do whatever we want with your land, it's your land.

[2:23:21] I want to see you do whatever you want with your land.

[2:23:24] And then they speak on something like this, and they say, well, no, you can't, you can't

[2:23:28] do this.

[2:23:29] All right.

[2:23:30] And I'm just warning that if we run around telling people do whatever we want with your

[2:23:34] property, this would catch up not just to these people, but to us as a government, if we take

[2:23:38] a position of this, no water for developments like this, but yes, water, if you want to put,

[2:23:44] you know, 300 tiny homes in a one acre lot, using consistent at best, it does raise concerns about equal protection.

[2:23:51] And I just want people to think about that, some people who I'm not admonishing anyone, I'm just saying be be aware of that because it's an inconsistent position and it could be legally potentially dangerous.

[2:24:00] If we as a county hold that position, it's okay for you to speak on it.

[2:24:04] But it's just something that I want to point out my objection here is is pretty simple.

[2:24:10] I do not like the density being proposed here the addition of homes here right now, which are two separate issues.

[2:24:16] and there are three things that I wanted to discuss about this.

[2:24:21] One is traffic.

[2:24:24] I don't, I know Commissioner Gibor is from Massachusetts.

[2:24:27] I know people should go out there and root nine in Massachusetts.

[2:24:31] I watched as well as he built up and made it built up in those towns.

[2:24:34] root nine is kind of just a road almost.

[2:24:37] I'll actually almost exactly like 160.

[2:24:40] And it just got worse and worse and worse.

[2:24:42] And I have memories 25 years ago sitting in traffic.

[2:24:45] And you go, you know, half a mile and 20 minutes.

[2:24:49] Chicago the same thing from I Chicago people 34 for those of you in those western suburbs. I lived there for a short period.

[2:24:55] And you see it's just a natural occurrence when you start dumping housing in places that.

[2:25:00] May not necessarily before that kind of housing, but exceptions are made or plans were bad. My concern, it's not even about my district here. It's about the traffic on that corner, that corner on homestead 160 could potentially be very, very bad, especially people are going to Parsons. And I know that there's another access that they want through the little area for the people in court. I don't know a lot of that, but if you're going to go up to Parsons to access

[2:25:29] this. It's going to just dump all of this traffic in that area. It will back up on the street,

[2:25:34] probably in both directions. And then we have that disaster across the street with the people

[2:25:39] all turning around illegally, because they want to be able to go for the gas station, the pot store,

[2:25:42] or wherever they're going. Lieutenant Cleanser promised me he wouldn't retire until he fixed that

[2:25:46] light. He retired anyway. He's still mad about the light. I'm sure out there somewhere. The light,

[2:25:52] we have been able to fix for a couple of years now. It's just if we can't fix a light, I just don't

[2:25:57] know if we can be trusted as a government to do this. I think we really let our people down.

[2:26:03] So that's the traffic part of it. The infrastructure part of it. It are the eroding roads.

[2:26:09] You know, we all passed a million dollars a road repair and you never guess it because money

[2:26:13] wasn't spent here can lear later. The plan as we found out was to give the money back.

[2:26:19] I use that story and I get a laugh every single time from somebody who's I'm meeting with.

[2:26:23] But that's the reality here.

[2:26:27] That's the reality here in my account.

[2:26:29] The infrastructure is not catch up with this kind of densely packed development or any

[2:26:37] development right now in that area.

[2:26:39] It's not conducive to that.

[2:26:40] The roads infrastructure, I guess they go hand in hand.

[2:26:45] My objection is not a water engineer, I'm not a scientist, I'm a deterrent schooled science.

[2:26:53] And so I'm not going to pretend to know anything about water and that's out of our jurisdiction as the DA will tell you is the water zone by the state so we can object on those grounds and it's fine, but my objection is just it makes no sense to put this here and the density of it makes no sense it will affect every single traveler who goes down there, not just people in my neighborhood or people in my district, and that is why I post this thank you Mr. Chairman.

[2:27:17] Thank you. Mr. Chair, I'd like to speak up to your commission.

[2:27:20] Mr. Strickland, please.

[2:27:22] Sure.

[2:27:22] Thank you.

[2:27:23] Thank you.

[2:27:24] Thank you, Chair.

[2:27:25] I was just going to ask about the flooding.

[2:27:28] I see that there's been some measures within this subdivision to address flooding.

[2:27:32] And I was wondering what you foresee here.

[2:27:35] It's hard to see when you look at it online.

[2:27:38] And if the people have even seen that particular measures because

[2:27:42] Winder Road's been a challenge for a long time.

[2:27:44] And I just think it's nice for once someone's coming forward with some ideas for flooding, not saying I'm support the project.

[2:27:52] I would just like to hear about that, please.

[2:28:01] Thank you, Commissioner Strickle. I didn't know if we would have an opportunity to speak.

[2:28:04] I'm glad we did. I would like to address that concern along with several others.

[2:28:07] Tim Sutton, SUTT, T-T-O-N, with Sutton Law and Consulting Group here on behalf of the property owners, Scott Sheldon.

[2:28:14] So, as Kihanna mentioned, this is a 190-home subdivision plan for 80 acres.

[2:28:24] And I guess I'm a little perplexed on all of the comments on regarding density.

[2:28:31] The neighboring winery subdivision contains 100 homes on 40 acres.

[2:28:39] We're proposing 200 homes on 200 acres.

[2:28:42] If we wanted to develop under the existing zoning right now, we could build 163 of those

[2:28:47] homes without any approvals at all, other than a development agreement.

[2:28:51] Development agreement was mentioned previously.

[2:28:53] If you notice in your backup, I believe it was Mr. Hunter, who mentioned the need for development

[2:29:01] agreement.

[2:29:01] That's absolutely true.

[2:29:02] We do need a development agreement.

[2:29:04] That's a condition of approval should the board choose to approve this subdivision.

[2:29:11] The U asked about the flood control, as has been mentioned by several people, flooding

[2:29:17] is a significant concern in this area, which is why the developer chose to put significant

[2:29:23] flooding prevention in the form of retention basins, slash open space property there.

[2:29:33] So, under the Under-Night County Code, the current requirement for this level of subdivision would be 1.14 acres of open space.

[2:29:45] The developer is putting in 20 acres, that's 25% of the acres, that's unprecedented.

[2:29:51] So, there's quite a significant bit of real estate being committed to address flooding concerns that have been raised.

[2:30:00] As far as the other traffic, as far as the traffic concerns that have been raised, yes, of course, if you have more people, that's going to create some traffic concerns. However, baked into our development and approval process is public works review, which addresses all those things. There's impact fees that need to be paid in order to address those, whether it's whitening the road, creating more ingress and egress, adding more layers of compaction onto the roads. I mean, that's all baked into our process.

[2:30:28] along with the impact fees for roads that would be required to be paid upon approval of the development agreement.

[2:30:37] One of the things I wanted to note that came over from the RPC was that there were concerns raised about only having one single story rather than multi story housing homes being built.

[2:30:51] That was something that the developer conceded to at the RPC level and was made contingent on the approval.

[2:30:56] people just wanted to bring that forward.

[2:30:59] Other than that, commissioners, people are making it sound like we're building mountain

[2:31:03] falls right next to the winery, and that's not the case.

[2:31:05] We're building the winery right next to the winery.

[2:31:08] If you look at the map there, if you click on any of the lots to the right, I think there's

[2:31:11] a couple along the road that are half acre locks, but other than that, they're smaller than

[2:31:16] the lots that are being proposed.

[2:31:18] Now, there are VR8 lots.

[2:31:20] The lot size is 8,500 square feet on average for those lots.

[2:31:25] We're proposing 10,000 square foot lots on minimum.

[2:31:28] So the representations that you've heard that this is increasing density in terms of the area,

[2:31:33] at least not to the east, where the winery subdivision exists, it's simply not true.

[2:31:38] So if there aren't any other questions, I'll sit down.

[2:31:42] If I may continue, Chair.

[2:31:44] Sure.

[2:31:44] So we're doing a comparative to the vineyards.

[2:31:47] The vineyards itself is the one that has the smaller lots.

[2:31:52] And I believe you just stated, Mr. Sutton, that you have the ability with the current

[2:31:57] zoning to do 163 homes, and this would be 198 homes.

[2:32:04] Did I get that right?

[2:32:05] That's correct.

[2:32:06] Okay, so that being correct, you're adding 35 homes, but putting in flood control, that

[2:32:13] you wouldn't have to do if you just built the homes, because you don't need, and the development

[2:32:18] agreement could also talk about traffic. So I don't know much, but I do know that having

[2:32:26] the flood control would be exquisite. I'm very concerned about that area. We all have

[2:32:31] been for a long time. That's the only thing I don't know, Commissioner. This is your district,

[2:32:41] Mr. Bain. And that being your district, have you considered the differentiation between

[2:32:46] the current approved homes that could go in versus this subdivision and not having any flood control.

[2:32:54] In law, we have this thing called leading the witness that I put into my head.

[2:32:59] Do you like that? I, unfortunately, cannot object under these circumstances, but

[2:33:05] anyway, as an attorney, you're not an attorney to look that up. I'm going to get a candle up.

[2:33:08] Thank you, later. I've considered everything. I mean, the reality is if you compare it to

[2:33:15] something that's more dense, it's not dense, but the request is to change the

[2:33:18] zone to allow more homes than are there now. That's a fact. I mean, we can

[2:33:24] debate it if you want, but I'm at the debate has ended with that statement for

[2:33:28] me. Perfect. I have considered all of it. As far as the traffic, it does not change

[2:33:32] things with the traffic. It's going to increase traffic. It's going to increase

[2:33:35] strain. And again, I would say that if any women in the state of Nevada can fix

[2:33:39] that light that's we've been asking to fix for two years now. And maybe then we

[2:33:44] We can bring this back up for a vote, because if we can't even get a second added on to

[2:33:48] that light and no one can figure it out, and I've talked to all seven endot people that

[2:33:52] apparently are six endot people that handle this place, then I can't even think about adding

[2:33:58] this.

[2:33:58] And if we can't figure out how to spend a million dollars on rotor pair that sits there in

[2:34:02] rot somewhere and the plan is to give it back, I don't know how we can possibly do something

[2:34:08] like this here.

[2:34:09] This makes no sense, maybe if I can get answer to those, I'd be amenable to looking to this further, as it now still have no.

[2:34:16] Thank you.

[2:34:17] I appreciate that.

[2:34:18] Thank you, Chair, or just-

[2:34:19] Thank you.

[2:34:20] Love having the conversation and seeing what the other commissioners feel and what they see.

[2:34:25] And it's a rewarding job because of that.

[2:34:29] Thank you, sir.

[2:34:30] Thank you.

[2:34:30] And now we're going to hear from Commissioner Gabor.

[2:34:33] Thank you, Chair.

[2:34:35] Thank you, commissioners.

[2:34:36] I thought at one point Mr. Sutton jumped up and cut us all off, but appreciate the clarification and I'd like to give some clarification as well.

[2:34:48] Commissioner Bain is correct originally from Born and Raised, educated in Massachusetts, Route 9, as in Route 128, which

[2:35:00] We've no longer exist, now it's 95. Those were old, those were old horse and cattle routes, a different route, and well, they actually is a different route. It all goes west now. It goes west. Yes, route nine goes west to the western part and leads into New York. So, anyway, to clarify something else is that is that what I've said time and time again is is when people have their own land.

[2:35:27] And they comply with what they're wanting to do, who are we?

[2:35:33] We are not the landsards to tell them no.

[2:35:36] So we have to be able to compare apples to apples.

[2:35:40] And this is an apple to an orange at this point of what's written in here in the back up in

[2:35:46] on the agenda, because they're asking us to change, they're asking us to change something

[2:35:54] that they're already zoned for.

[2:35:56] And yes, they're able to move forward with 163 homes.

[2:36:01] If this is rejected, I get it.

[2:36:04] But we do have to keep things into perspective.

[2:36:09] Mr. Sutton mentioned in Gus Egrats, layers and helping to correct any of what is that that's winery road going back and forth.

[2:36:23] So, is there a plan because I didn't see it, you can help me here, is there a plan for additional ingress egress to this development besides winery road?

[2:36:36] First question, when do you plan on commencing if this is approved?

[2:36:44] Thank you, Commissioner Gabor.

[2:36:46] Yes, that would be addressed during the tentative map stage or the final map stage by public works.

[2:36:52] They'd come in.

[2:36:53] I believe a traffic study has already been conducted on this parcel.

[2:36:58] And so I think they found that Winery Road plus a road, and I apologize.

[2:37:04] Parsons Road would be the one that would address the ingress and egress of the subdivision.

[2:37:11] Where does Parsons Road exit on to?

[2:37:24] Industrial Commissioner.

[2:37:27] So it will go through and as one of the commenters spoke and said that they have, it's not just one but there's a few pits that are up there.

[2:37:38] So Parsons Road, so this will be a well-traveled area for not only commercial but also residential traffic.

[2:37:47] If this was improved, approved.

[2:37:50] Yes?

[2:37:52] Yes, Commissioner.

[2:37:54] Okay, and then the other question, please, Mr. Sutton, is if this was to be approved, when do you plan on building?

[2:38:04] I believe there was a requirement to get the development agreement passed within a year.

[2:38:11] I believe Mr. Sheldon's on the phone, I don't know exactly when the proposed phasing is supposed to happen.

[2:38:17] Okay, so the plan is, the plan is to actually build and not to flip this property.

[2:38:27] I don't know if Mr. Sheldon's plan to flip the property or not, but that's not uncommon in the development world to have somebody get the entitlements for a particular piece of property and then develop it.

[2:38:38] I understand Mr. Sutton, I appreciate your candidness.

[2:38:42] I suppose I'm going to be considered, I'm leading the witness.

[2:38:50] You just can't do it for friendly, that's how the rule works.

[2:38:54] Oh, I'm not being hurried.

[2:38:55] Still at all.

[2:38:56] I'm not being, we're all friends here.

[2:38:57] Yeah, we're trying to make things happen.

[2:38:59] So, you know, something that I read in the back up that really concerns me is 21 acres of

[2:39:08] this project, if it was to move forward, 21 acres is proposed to be retention basins

[2:39:17] and parking areas.

[2:39:20] Is that right?

[2:39:21] That's correct.

[2:39:23] Yes.

[2:39:24] So retention basin.

[2:39:26] I mean, the visual that I got, and by the way, I do visit the different properties,

[2:39:33] things that to the best of my ability when I'm back and forth and all over the county.

[2:39:39] But the visual that came to mind is the horrific and tragic events that occurred

[2:39:45] heard on and at death Valley when we had all of these people in death Valley and all of

[2:39:52] a sudden the torrential rains and the floods came down and they're still missing and my

[2:39:58] condolences to.

[2:40:00] There are families and friends.

[2:40:05] We're proposing to have a retention basin up on top of, in the middle of the fan, with a park area for people to go and enjoy. And then, and then at the snap, at the snap of a whip, there could be torrential rains.

[2:40:23] Is this a possibility of, of, of a potential catastrophic area being created?

[2:40:36] I guess I don't understand any questions.

[2:40:38] I guess I don't understand, are you concerned that this, that the retention basin would somehow create a hazard?

[2:40:48] Or correct, correct.

[2:40:53] I mean, if the retention basin is going to capture any water that's coming down off the fan into that area,

[2:41:01] why would we put a park there and place people in danger, potentially in danger?

[2:41:08] For

[2:41:12] sure, Jibor, we've got Bernard, the engineer here, who would like to address your concern.

[2:41:17] Thank you.

[2:41:19] My name is Bernardo Zaneen, Z-A-N-I-N, and I am a civil engineer design.

[2:41:26] We have been working for a long time with a drainage study on this one.

[2:41:32] And the detention basin is going to contain the water and let it flow slowly,

[2:41:38] So it doesn't go the way it's doing already on the winery.

[2:41:45] So we're going to keep and let it flow in a slow pattern.

[2:41:51] And the detention basin is going to be about five feet deep

[2:41:57] by the volume that we calculated.

[2:42:01] And we've one to three slopes on the sides.

[2:42:04] So it's not, it won't be any hazard for the people over there.

[2:42:10] And there will be, of course, signalling about the flood area, so it is addressed on the

[2:42:20] civil side.

[2:42:24] Thank you, Mr. Bergso.

[2:42:28] I respectfully disagree.

[2:42:30] I am not an engineer, but I disagree with living in and corrupt, and in the perump valley,

[2:42:35] and in Lake County for many, many years and seeing what

[2:42:40] torrential rains can do and what it does do within seconds,

[2:42:44] within seconds.

[2:42:48] But I appreciate you clarifying.

[2:42:53] Obviously, you've addressed it because it's a concern.

[2:42:58] Yes, we really want a real big drainage study.

[2:43:05] There is the property to the north of us

[2:43:09] that we are currently using as a reference as well

[2:43:13] and a few other on homestead.

[2:43:16] So we do have analyzed a lot of flows from the Wheeler Wash

[2:43:21] and we are addressing the best as possible.

[2:43:28] Thank you, thank you.

[2:43:30] Thank you, sir.

[2:43:31] A commissioner Bain would like me to make a clarification for you

[2:43:33] on something you asked.

[2:43:34] It's about your time, just for a reason.

[2:43:37] You would ask about the access.

[2:43:38] And I understand the access is on Parsons

[2:43:40] and I understand people don't memorize everyone else's neighborhood I get it that's why we have different districts we represent.

[2:43:45] But the idea that someone's going to be accessing on Parsons and go around in a big circle to go anywhere and then go to 160 is pretty ridiculous.

[2:43:55] They're going to obviously go right down the winery and go barreling down winery.

[2:43:59] So I actually want to make that point is if we're saying no one's going to go down industrial trust me

[2:44:03] I'm going to go down industrial I was going to go all the way around two miles around and then go back and on the other side

[2:44:08] They're going to go right down Parsons, and I know I know it's intended to do and they may even put a little bump out to suggest

[2:44:14] But that they go not not the shortest distance, but we all know if you want to drive down your break and sit there for five minutes in the corner of homestead

[2:44:21] 116 tell me how many people you see taking you turns around that ridiculous thing that they put in the road

[2:44:27] you have your answer, so we cannot tell people what to do, especially in Perum, they're going to do the opposite if they want to, so we cannot direct them not to go right down barreling down wiring. That is my concern. Thank you.

[2:44:38] Thank you, Commissioner Bain. No, I certainly appreciate that because, and I know exactly exactly where you're talking about.

[2:44:47] I understand the proposed ingress egress, the additional proposed ingress egress, which

[2:44:54] is wonderful because it does have to do with safety and you're up.

[2:45:00] Absolutely right. Why would somebody drive all the way around, unless they see the traffic lined up, backed up, whether they're going to work, they're going to school, they're going on a pleasure, pleasure trip for the day. But I'm going to turn it back over to you, Chair. I think I'm satisfied with the questions, answers, public comments, et cetera. Thank you, Commissioner. Mr. Colony, you got anything?

[2:45:27] I don't really have anything to add except that

[2:45:30] I think Mr. Sutton you said you're going to put 200 homes on 200 acres that's not on 200 acres.

[2:45:39] It's 98 acres.

[2:45:42] Actually, 80 acres, I apologize.

[2:45:44] That's what I meant to say.

[2:45:45] We'll just leave it to the person.

[2:45:47] Yeah, thank you.

[2:45:48] It was a winery has 100 homes on 40 acres.

[2:45:52] This is 200 homes on 80 acres.

[2:45:54] Right.

[2:45:55] Thank you for that clarification.

[2:45:57] So that's still smaller.

[2:45:59] Okay, that's all I had, just smaller than the current vineyard lawns, because I think they're, but still well you're putting

[2:46:13] 198 homes on 80 acres around that 78.9 rounder up to 80

[2:46:20] So it's still less than half an acre. Right. When you go anything for us?

[2:46:28] Wait, not a motion.

[2:46:34] Anybody gonna make a motion?

[2:46:52] Is anybody going to make a motion on this?

[2:46:54] He and his or Commissioner Bane is your district,

[2:46:56] whether it's an approval vote of a motion.

[2:46:58] It's on page six of six in your backup if you want to read it.

[2:47:03] No, thank you.

[2:47:07] All right.

[2:47:10] This item does not ask for lack of a motion.

[2:47:14] Which means it can come back.

[2:47:20] Thank you, commissioners.

[2:47:21] Thank you, guys.

[2:47:24] Eight please.

[2:47:26] Let's see if we can speed it up.

[2:47:30] Item 8, 10am dined item for possible action, public hearing discussion and deliberation

[2:47:37] on WV-26-28, a waiver of NCC 16.20.160 for building setback requirements at the property

[2:47:47] be located at 108 and 126 South Prospect, Tonipada, Nevada, Sustard's parcel number 008-142-01 and 008-142-02, Bradley DeBoer Trust, Property Owner, Kevin Hasku, Applicant Agent.

[2:48:07] Okay, thank you for that. All right guys, please be quiet so we can hear Keona.

[2:48:12] Thank you.

[2:48:15] Yana, Medici, QIA, MED, ICI, Principal Planner and I County Planning.

[2:48:21] The applicant is requesting a waiver from I County Code 162160C, as existing structures

[2:48:27] are already located within the setback area identified by the code, and requiring strict

[2:48:32] compliance with the current setback standards would create an unnecessary hardship while providing

[2:48:36] little or no additional public benefit.

[2:48:38] But the property owner has submitted a land division map LD 2016 purpose of this parcel

[2:48:44] map is to move the existing property line between the two parcels to create a more practical

[2:48:49] plot layout and improve the future resell value of properties.

[2:48:54] No new parcels are being created as part of this request.

[2:48:57] The adjustment only changes the location of a common boundary between the existing parcels.

[2:49:02] The revised boundary will result in parcels that are more functional, easier to market and

[2:49:05] better suited for future ownership and use.

[2:49:09] Thank you for that.

[2:49:10] All right, let's start with public comment.

[2:49:12] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

[2:49:18] No chair.

[2:49:19] Come on down, Beth.

[2:49:24] Beth Bore-Sevich, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

[2:49:28] I did not personally go there, but I did do Google Maps.

[2:49:33] And I also did Google Earth.

[2:49:36] There is a mobile home there.

[2:49:38] There's a utility shed.

[2:49:40] There's a demolished home and some other buildings there that can be easily moved.

[2:49:48] I'm not sure that we need to give them a setback.

[2:49:54] I'm not sure this should pass.

[2:49:57] It's the whole area is kind of...

[2:50:01] Oh, I don't even know how to put it. It's just everything seems to be demolished except for the mobile home and the shed. So I'm not sure why they're asking for a setback. They need to clean up the land first before they can determine what they're going to do. They just want to sell the property it looks like. I understand that. However, it should be cleaned up before any determination is made about this. Thank you. Thank you.

[2:50:30] So, Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[2:50:36] No chair.

[2:50:36] Any close public comment, commissioners?

[2:50:39] Lots of questions?

[2:50:45] I have no questions, Chair, I too know the street and the property.

[2:50:51] The last commenter is correct, the whole street looks different, especially from Google Earth,

[2:51:00] from above, versus on the street, but at the same time, this is a formality.

[2:51:06] and I will motion to approve second we have a motion a second I'm going to call for

[2:51:12] the vote.

[2:51:13] Aye.

[2:51:14] Aye.

[2:51:15] The board is aye.

[2:51:16] Aye.

[2:51:16] I'll skip a tie.

[2:51:17] That carries 5-0.

[2:51:18] Thank you.

[2:51:23] If we can do a few more real quick let's do consent 11 please do

[2:51:40] you have to read them.

[2:51:43] Item 11 consent agenda items.

[2:51:46] These are items that staff recommend for approval.

[2:51:48] The board reserves the right to move any consent agenda item to the regular segment of the agenda should issues arise that need to be addressed discussion of any item from the consent agenda items that needs review before a decision is made.

[2:52:03] This will be item 11.1 11.2 11.3 B only 11.4 A B and C 11.5 A B and C 11.6 A B and C

[2:52:19] 11.7 A, B, and C 11.8 A, B, and C 11.9 A and B and 11.10 A, B, and C.

[2:52:33] Okay, thank you for that.

[2:52:34] So I'm going to open a public comment right now on any one of those items.

[2:52:37] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone?

[2:52:43] Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted.

[2:52:45] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[2:52:49] Oh, yes.

[2:52:53] I saw grid alliance on here, and I enlarged it, now I lost it.

[2:52:59] I'm not quite sure why grid alliance is asking for anything.

[2:53:06] That was actually pulled.

[2:53:10] Sorry, just be, go ahead.

[2:53:12] Oh,

[2:53:15] anyway, if it's got to do with solar farms out there, I don't think anybody is in

[2:53:24] favor of them getting approved for any changes or any amount of money.

[2:53:29] If they're on this, I can't find it, but I'll wait and listen and see what happens with

[2:53:36] this.

[2:53:36] Thank you.

[2:53:36] Thank you. Come on down, Mr. Pittman.

[2:53:43] Stephen Pittman, PIT, MN 116.

[2:53:47] Can I go there?

[2:53:48] Yep.

[2:53:49] 116 is an Office of Traffic Safety,

[2:53:54] and I kind of sure as officer,

[2:53:55] in Paramount Enforcement Grant Award for $30,000.

[2:53:59] There's an in-kind match of $7,500.

[2:54:03] Where are we going to find that money?

[2:54:06] and 11.7 same thing for traffic safety joining forces grant award and we have to

[2:54:15] come up with a match of 11.5 and 11.8 an in-kind match of $11,250 in the

[2:54:26] The positive side, 1110, the chief has wants to put up two large towers with sirens on them to warn of disaster.

[2:54:43] And that's a good thing.

[2:54:44] But the rest with these in-kind matches, that's a lot of money.

[2:54:47] Where do we get that?

[2:54:48] Thank you, sir.

[2:54:49] Thank you.

[2:54:50] Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[2:54:54] Yes, chair.

[2:54:54] The caller is unmuted.

[2:54:56] Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[2:55:01] Well, commissioners, Michael Davis, or G-A-R-C-I-A. And I just want to let it be known for the record. The reason why we're not used in the clock is because nobody knows how to reprogram it. Two minutes. Thank you all. That's really not true. Come on down. Miss Jackson.

[2:55:25] Angelina Jackson, J-A-C, K-S-O-N. So it seems like there's a lot of issues. Grant, you know, jam packed into into into one here, which is.

[2:55:34] kind of, you know, unclear for a lot of issues here. One is with a grid alliance. I have

[2:55:43] a friend that lives over off a factory road and grid alliance without notifying her, nobody

[2:55:49] notified her prior to this in August of last year. They are over there and they are when

[2:55:54] they spray the ground, all right, to keep the dust from going. I have pictures where the

[2:55:59] whole side of her house and her yard and everything gets wet. They are out there at three,

[2:56:04] four in the morning with flood lights in her window and diesel trucks running all night.

[2:56:10] Nobody ever warned her of this. So given them things like this where it's it's it doesn't

[2:56:19] give enough information and like I said, I don't understand why so many issues are packed

[2:56:22] into one because nothing is very clear. And neither are the you know when they prepare

[2:56:28] the issue to go on the agenda. There's nothing on there that's clear on anything

[2:56:33] either. So that's kind of, you know, I don't understand why it's like that. We can't,

[2:56:40] it's too many issues on one for anybody to comment on, especially within two minutes.

[2:56:45] But for the grid alliance, go out there and see where she's at, where her house is, and

[2:56:50] where they're put, they just put down the, the slabs for the towers to go up. It's literally

[2:56:56] really like for me to you. And she's the only house that it's affecting because she's

[2:57:02] that far out. But nobody's notified her. The environmental issues that's going on with

[2:57:07] this because where they have the barrier for the overflow of water, it's nothing. I mean,

[2:57:12] there's nothing standing there anymore. There is nothing being protected. The barrier from

[2:57:18] her retainer wall is literally this far. I have pictures and videos of it to show you. And

[2:57:24] And this is why I mentioned earlier about, it seems to be a thing where, you know, the residents are being notified or to say something about it.

[2:57:36] Something needs to be done with this, so I say no on all of it.

[2:57:39] Thank you.

[2:57:40] Come on now, Linda.

[2:57:46] Linda Clark's LARK, I just want clarification.

[2:57:49] Ron, did you say number 11, you were going to hold a side for something?

[2:57:55] No, it was 11.3 A. We took it off.

[2:58:03] 3.8?

[2:58:05] Yeah, that's the one I have a question about.

[2:58:07] Yeah, that one's been pulled.

[2:58:10] Linda, it'll come back on another agenda.

[2:58:12] I hope so.

[2:58:13] It was a typo in there.

[2:58:14] Thank you.

[2:58:16] Come on down, Deborah.

[2:58:23] Deborah Thomas, THOMAS.

[2:58:26] Yes, Greta

[2:58:32] Alliance has lost lawsuits in at least three states and multiple countries.

[2:58:45] I would not want them to do anything here because most of it was over contamination.

[2:58:52] Thank you.

[2:58:56] Thank you.

[2:58:58] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

[2:59:01] No chair.

[2:59:02] We're going to close public and we'll listen to Chair.

[2:59:05] Can I clear something up?

[2:59:08] The grid line item that you guys are voting on is a road remediation agreement for

[2:59:14] the SUP that you guys approved quite some time ago for the upgrade to their transmission line.

[2:59:21] We're not approving a project.

[2:59:23] You're approving an agreement so we can get a road fixed if they damage them.

[2:59:32] I just want to clarify that sounds like what you just said, this is just an agreement so that we would have some kind of recourse in the event that our roads are damaged.

[2:59:41] I know there's a lot of confusion here. I don't blame anyone on this particular one. I don't want to be out of time. But I have driven up there and talked to these people up there doing the stuff they're doing and the vast and to do certain things and they've done certain things.

[2:59:51] It's, it's, it's about, it was approved before I got here and it's approved.

[2:59:55] It is what it is, but as far as this is concerned, all this would do is.

[3:00:00] Just give us the ability to have an agreement and case things get destroyed. So that's, I just want to be clear about that for everyone. Thank you for the clarification. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. I just wanted to respond to Mr. Pitman's comment or question. Each of the joining forces or traffic safety grants that in kind match for each of these items is being met by the fuel costs.

[3:00:29] We're in terror of the vehicle, the maintenance of the vehicle.

[3:00:32] So we're not actually having to put out any money to them.

[3:00:37] This is a wash.

[3:00:40] Thank you.

[3:00:41] Thank you, sir.

[3:00:43] Okay.

[3:00:44] Excuse me, Chair.

[3:00:46] Go ahead.

[3:00:46] Where's the sheriff?

[3:00:47] Let me show you your board.

[3:00:49] Thank you.

[3:00:49] Sheriff.

[3:00:50] Oh, Joe.

[3:00:51] Before you walk away, that wasn't the only one that was unclear.

[3:00:58] and if you could, I mean 11.6, 11.7, 11.8, these are all being funded from 103, 4.0 grants,

[3:01:09] as well as the fire chief's item 11.10 funding from 103, 4.0 grants. So could you help

[3:01:19] clarify those as well, Sheriff, to satisfy the questions from the public, please?

[3:01:29] If I can, as I understand it is that the money is given to the county from the state, and the invoices are billed from that.

[3:01:43] So, does that answer your question?

[3:01:52] And the end kind is met the same way as well.

[3:01:54] Any end kind is also.

[3:01:55] Same way that you mentioned for the other one.

[3:01:58] Thank you, Sheriff.

[3:02:04] Thank you, Commissioner.

[3:02:05] Is somebody speaking to you, Sheriff?

[3:02:07] No. Oh, you are. No, I see you looking over to the left. Are you looking on screen? Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

[3:02:22] Just anxiously awaiting your next question.

[3:02:25] No, I'm satisfied, Sheriff. Thank you. I just wanted you to clarify. That's all. Thank you.

[3:02:32] Chair, if they're satisfied, I'd like to make a motion to approve all consent items as written.

[3:02:37] That's been perfect, motion and a second, I'm going to call for the vote.

[3:02:40] Aye.

[3:02:41] Mr. Bois, aye.

[3:02:43] Aye.

[3:02:44] Oscar, aye.

[3:02:45] That's five, zero.

[3:02:45] Thank you.

[3:02:46] 19, please.

[3:02:55] Item 19 for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding proclamation number P2026 that's

[3:03:04] 0-6 declaring September 2026, service dog month and nightcammy.

[3:03:10] Thank you for that.

[3:03:12] All right, who's presenting on this?

[3:03:14] I saw her earlier, I thought.

[3:03:16] Sure, this is a public petitioner item.

[3:03:18] If the petitioner is on the phone, they'll need to press star 9

[3:03:20] to raise their hand to be unmuted.

[3:03:22] If they are unavailable, we can just proceed.

[3:03:25] It's pretty self-explanatory.

[3:03:30] Okay, let's open up public comment on this guy and see if there's anybody

[3:03:33] the ones to speak.

[3:03:40] 19. All right, closing public comment. Motion to approve is written.

[3:03:46] 7 per seconds. Motion two seconds, all those in favor.

[3:03:49] Aye. Aye. Aye.

[3:03:52] Oscar, 5, 0, thank you very much. All right, so we're going to do 20 and then we're going

[3:03:57] to break for lunch. And Paul, what? No, what? Do him after?

[3:04:04] yeah okay okay

[3:04:08] that's okay let's hold on sir yeah

[3:04:20] all right let's break let's

[3:04:25] Let's be back at 2.30.

[3:05:13] They'll be joining shortly.

[3:05:17] Paul, don't be mad at me, but I, I have to bump you. I know.

[3:05:25] I'm sorry.

[3:05:28] We're doing nine. We have to do nine. Sure. You just leave it right there.

[3:05:41] All right,

[3:05:47] Commissioner's up north or back.

[3:05:48] Lorena, are you with us?

[3:05:51] I'm here.

[3:05:52] Thank you.

[3:05:52] May I do nine, please?

[3:05:55] Or you do nine, please?

[3:05:58] Yes.

[3:05:59] May I have nine, please?

[3:06:02] Item nine, 10 o'clock a.m. for possible action.

[3:06:05] Public hearing, discussion, and deliberation

[3:06:07] to a declared two, four, six, one, self-malored avenue,

[3:06:11] prompt Nevada, a public nuisance consisting of an unsafe,

[3:06:14] unhealthful condition, which poses a public health

[3:06:17] and safety hazard. B, if declared a public nuisance establish a reasonable time for any

[3:06:23] alternative who is the property owner to repair, abate or remove the public nuisance.

[3:06:27] C, if the public nuisance is not abated within the time period designated direct staff to utilize

[3:06:32] the abatement procedures to abate the hazard by removing or causing the removal of the hazardous

[3:06:37] conditions. D, establish a funding source to pay for the abatement. E, apply a special assessment

[3:06:44] against the real property in the amount of the total cost of the abatement.

[3:06:47] Assessor's parcel number 04249304, location 2461 South Mallard Avenue,

[3:06:54] prop Nevada, property owner, Annie Elterner.

[3:07:04] Hey, Brian, DA.

[3:07:06] Do we need, do we need to swear anyone in?

[3:07:10] Do we need to script?

[3:07:11] Do we need anything?

[3:07:12] I gave you the script last time.

[3:07:15] I didn't make any new ones.

[3:07:16] So shall we open another item another item while we do it and we'll find the script please can we get a script please from staff for me not last fact

[3:07:27] I'm going to turn this over to Bruce

[3:07:31] Chairman jubber for the roads number 10, please

[3:07:35] We'll continue nine item 10

[3:07:38] Item 10 for possible action discussion and deliberation regarding the general road report by the public works director on general road maintenance

[3:07:46] Scrabble Road Maintenance, asphalt patching, weed, mowing and direction regarding public

[3:07:50] works projects.

[3:07:53] Thank you, Lorena.

[3:07:55] Is Bo or Tom?

[3:07:57] Oh, is Bo is with us, sir.

[3:08:00] Bo, please proceed.

[3:08:04] Okay, good afternoon, everybody.

[3:08:06] Bo got GOTTT, Assistant Public Works Director.

[3:08:10] Okay, so Nye County Public Works has received 448 maintenance requests since the beginning

[3:08:16] of this year. So far 287 of those have been completed. 57 were not relative, leaving 104

[3:08:25] unresolved. Most requests continue to be for potholes with a slide-up rise in mowing

[3:08:33] requests over the past month. Patching crews continue to be out daily and the moors have been

[3:08:38] focusing on areas around the schools, clear the ditches for the students that are walking to school.

[3:08:48] Last week, the travel crew completed just over five miles of scrub seal in Tonipa, which

[3:08:55] will complete all of the chip and scrub seals outside of the prompt area for the year.

[3:09:00] Over the next two weeks, the crew will finish up with the three and a half miles of chip

[3:09:06] roads left on the list for this year, bringing the total of roads completed in prompt at

[3:09:11] 23 miles, excuse me, and for just over 32 miles throughout the county.

[3:09:16] The crew will continue scrub sealing some major asphalt roads in Peramp with some extensive

[3:09:22] work on sections of Black, Basin, Wilson, Gamerd, East and West and Honey Suckle streets throughout

[3:09:31] the month of September.

[3:09:35] Recently, outlying areas around Tonipon-Bady have been hit with some flood activity over the

[3:09:42] This month, crews will be working on repairs and gravel road maintenance to bring the roads back up to normal status.

[3:09:52] Just one more thing I want to go over regarding the addition of some latch funds.

[3:10:00] That were received.

[3:10:03] We currently have spent $761,582.90. That's as of today. There may be a few invoices that haven't been processed yet.

[3:10:15] I'm leaving us with 238,480, 238,417 dollars and 10 cents left.

[3:10:27] I'm open for any questions.

[3:10:31] Thank you, Bo.

[3:10:33] Commissioners, do you have any questions for the Assistant Director before I open it up for public comment?

[3:10:39] I have none, sir.

[3:10:40] I have nothing.

[3:10:41] Thank you.

[3:10:42] Thank you.

[3:10:43] Thank you.

[3:10:44] Let me open this up for public comment, please.

[3:10:51] Anybody on the phone, please, Sam.

[3:10:53] Public comment.

[3:10:53] Yes, chair.

[3:10:54] Public comment.

[3:10:55] Item number 10.

[3:10:57] Yes, chair.

[3:10:57] The caller is unmuted.

[3:10:58] Please speak and phone your name for the record.

[3:11:04] I was calling on nine.

[3:11:09] Thank you.

[3:11:10] We will get back to nine in just a few minutes.

[3:11:14] We're on number 10 right now.

[3:11:16] I was in Rhodes commission.

[3:11:18] Anybody else on the phone, please, Sam?

[3:11:20] We don't have anybody in chambers.

[3:11:22] Yes, chair.

[3:11:32] I'm glad you mentioned mowing where the students walk, it came up in a conversation on Facebook last week on Barney, kids walk from all the way up close to Basin, down to Barney and prospector to catch the bus and those side.

[3:11:55] weeds are really high. They're really bad. So maybe they can check out over there

[3:12:03] where these kids walk so they're not walking in the street. Thank you.

[3:12:08] Thank you Amy for that. That's very important. Anybody else on the phone please?

[3:12:15] Yes chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[3:12:26] I can hear you Michael.

[3:12:28] Thank you.

[3:12:30] Thank you from Don't Fall.

[3:12:33] Anyhow I just want to, uh, for the record make it be known when, uh, good intentions go

[3:12:38] above and beyond their, uh, hey wages and, uh, to cover up or, uh, help alleviate the

[3:12:45] strain from your negative mark.

[3:12:48] So, uh, let's show a little appreciation when we do this side.

[3:12:51] Thank you.

[3:12:53] Thank you.

[3:12:55] Anybody else on the phone, please have.

[3:12:58] No chair.

[3:12:59] Thank you.

[3:13:01] I'll close public comment at this time.

[3:13:03] Any other questions for the assistant director Bogot?

[3:13:08] Nothing for me, sir.

[3:13:10] I just want to thank you.

[3:13:13] Go ahead, Commissioner Coney.

[3:13:14] I was just going to say nothing here.

[3:13:16] He looks too comfortable sitting there.

[3:13:18] He's very comfortable.

[3:13:19] Well, yeah, they're comfortable seats.

[3:13:23] Chair?

[3:13:23] Well, I just want to thank you again.

[3:13:25] Go ahead, commissioners.

[3:13:26] We are slow with our getting back to you with that lag.

[3:13:30] Aren't we, Chair?

[3:13:31] Thank you.

[3:13:32] It is.

[3:13:33] We don't need second lag.

[3:13:35] You're so used to it.

[3:13:36] I just want to say thank you for moving forward

[3:13:39] with spending the million dollars and having a little over $238,000 left.

[3:13:44] I'm sure by next month that will be all gone.

[3:13:47] Thank you very much.

[3:13:48] Thank you, Chair.

[3:13:48] Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Bain. Did you have anything?

[3:13:54] So, so Bow speaking of which of course we want you to utilize this money in the most

[3:14:00] efficient way possible. So there's there's the tangible the visual for the people as they're

[3:14:06] driving over what they once knew as potholes etc. As you say the majority of calls come in

[3:14:12] and concerns are over potholes. So throughout the county I'm sure that it is. I know that

[3:14:19] it's appreciative. And also, I want to thank you and your team. You were up here during

[3:14:24] the scrub and chip seal program for many of the streets here in Tonopan, the area.

[3:14:32] And thank you and the team again because it's very, very noticeable, right? And it's delightful

[3:14:44] to and a pleasure to finally drive on areas that, you know, people try to avoid and go to different side streets, right?

[3:14:52] So you know what I'm trying to thank you for being hands on and being up here during that, during that project. I'm you and your team.

[3:15:01] All right, thank you.

[3:15:04] And next time hopefully you'll have another presentation, a PowerPoint for us. I know the public really enjoyed that because they were able to actually see the different areas of the county that were being addressed by you and your team. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I was really struggling to come up with some material over a month. I think I could probably make it work every like quarterly come up with a presentation.

[3:15:32] You know, road work is pretty extensive, and you know, what you get done in a month doesn't look really good on a presentation, and not many people are going to notice it. It's just very time consuming, and also with being out of town and, and a ton of all.

[3:15:47] Yes, it's made a little difficult for me to put anything together.

[3:15:49] So I understand and not to waste your time my bow. We want it to be meaningful. Doesn't have to be redundant. We don't want it to be redundant.

[3:16:00] So just a verbal report in every quarter. I think that would be acceptable to do a PowerPoint and present a video presentation, whatever you're going to put together.

[3:16:09] Okay. Okay. Thank you for understanding.

[3:16:12] I'll go back to my comfortable spot down there.

[3:16:15] Obviously, I don't like public speaking so much more coming in the seat, but thank you.

[3:16:20] Okay, thank you.

[3:16:20] You're doing a good job.

[3:16:21] Thank you, Director, and I'll turn this back over to the VOCC Chair Ron Boschovich.

[3:16:28] Thank you.

[3:16:29] Thank you very much, Chair.

[3:16:30] And thank you, Bo, and your guys' team as well.

[3:16:33] All right, let's see.

[3:16:34] What are we going to do now?

[3:16:38] Let's bring it.

[3:16:39] Let's do.

[3:16:39] Thank you.

[3:16:42] Oh, hey.

[3:16:43] Nine again.

[3:16:45] Do you have any nature?

[3:16:52] If you throw it, Commissioner Strickman, I'll try to catch it from the screen.

[3:16:57] I told you I would appreciate your view today with something.

[3:17:01] That's a good one.

[3:17:03] I

[3:17:05] always miss his jokes when he's not here.

[3:17:09] All right.

[3:17:10] So once we know they have their scripts, we can move on with number nine.

[3:17:17] It's already been read.

[3:17:19] Okay.

[3:17:21] He's absolutely right.

[3:17:22] It's already been read.

[3:17:23] Okay, here we are back on number nine.

[3:17:25] This is a hearing to show cause to determine if a nuisance exists on property located at 2461 South Mallard Avenue.

[3:17:33] Brump Nevada pursuant to night county code 17.04.860.

[3:17:40] Will the representatives of the planning department please state your full names for the record.

[3:17:50] Rob Hi, H-I-G-H-T.

[3:17:53] Celeste Sanable, S-A-N-D-O-V-A-L.

[3:17:56] Thank you for that.

[3:17:58] Have you reviewed the backup documentation submitted for this agenda item?

[3:18:04] Yes.

[3:18:05] Is the documentation true and accurate documentation of the notices provided to the owner and accurately depict the condition of the subject property?

[3:18:16] The backup isn't completely up to date.

[3:18:20] The RV's are gone, there's still some junk and debris remaining, including a couch, if you want one.

[3:18:30] Well, is it leather?

[3:18:33] No.

[3:18:36] Go, go, go, may need that couch in the back.

[3:18:42] Please summarize the health and safety concerns you observed regarding this property.

[3:18:47] Thank you, Serena.

[3:18:49] There's enough junk and debris that it would probably be a place where pests could be attracted to.

[3:18:59] I think that would be the main health and safety issue with that property at this time.

[3:19:06] Are there any questions from any board member?

[3:19:10] No, sir.

[3:19:11] Yes, go ahead, sir.

[3:19:15] Thank you. Rob Celeste, thank you for being here today and giving us that update that's

[3:19:22] important. I have some questions, please. Revealing the backup, I would like to ask,

[3:19:32] where does the granddaughter reside, please? I believe she resides in Michigan. Okay. Thank

[3:19:41] Thank you.

[3:19:41] And reviewing and in reviewing the backup, it shows that the owner, Mrs. Turner, unfortunately

[3:19:50] passed away sometime in July 2026, is that right?

[3:19:53] That is correct.

[3:19:56] Yes.

[3:19:56] Okay.

[3:19:56] So...

[3:20:00] So again, looking at some of these photos, it's fenced, it's not completely fenced, but it's fenced property.

[3:20:10] I know that you've all done your due diligence. You've posted, you've reposted, you've posted again. Okay, where Mrs. Turner has passed away just last month. Okay, let's be realistic here. It's been just one month.

[3:20:31] I don't think that it's fair that the heir to the property of the granddaughter residing

[3:20:40] in Michigan, or if she was in California, or even here in the state of Nevada, that

[3:20:47] a reasonable time frame is what's been recommended as far as September 14, 2026.

[3:20:54] I just wanted that on the record, please.

[3:20:57] And for you to take that into consideration as we also consider through public comment and the other comments from the commissioners.

[3:21:06] Yeah, the abatement letters were sent before she passed away, so otherwise we might have acted differently.

[3:21:16] No, I'm not criticizing you, or Celeste or the department of who's been involved.

[3:21:29] You had no idea that the owner of the property was going to or was ill or was even going

[3:21:37] to be departing this world just so soon.

[3:21:42] But with this as part of the information and evidence as this being a nuisance, I'm

[3:21:50] going to say and stand behind saying that it's totally unfair that an unreasonable to

[3:21:58] have here as a recommendation of September 14th, 2026, according to our policy, with this

[3:22:06] tearing as a requirement to either deem it or not deem it a nuisance.

[3:22:14] Again, for the record, okay?

[3:22:19] Mr. Chairman, I have a few questions.

[3:22:22] I have a few questions.

[3:22:22] I'm sorry.

[3:22:25] In reading here, I don't know who wrote this, so I'll be delicate.

[3:22:29] Grand Daughter has a notice, Deed upon death, Deed in the property, but it's not recorded.

[3:22:34] I don't know, the Nevada, is the Nevada law such that it's a condition precedent to the execution of Deed upon death to be recorded?

[3:22:40] it doesn't have to be recorded prior to being executed?

[3:22:45] I don't think it has to be recorded.

[3:22:47] I think that's one of the, I don't think you do, I'm sorry.

[3:22:50] I believe that's what I got to see in property law, but I do believe that it has to be executed

[3:22:56] prior to the death or it's not valid.

[3:22:59] So I don't, is that correct?

[3:23:01] So that is correct.

[3:23:02] So that is irrelevant.

[3:23:03] So this person does not own this property.

[3:23:06] That is what we think also.

[3:23:09] Okay, so we can set that aside, unless this is inaccurate, we can set that aside.

[3:23:13] This person you're talking to is on property.

[3:23:15] So has probably been opened, do we know?

[3:23:19] I believe Susan's last conversation with the niece and the brother that it was, they

[3:23:25] were going to be starting the process.

[3:23:27] You're going to be starting the process.

[3:23:29] Was this already abated when it was a house and burned down and there was some kind of problems

[3:23:34] there in the past?

[3:23:35] It was a previous case and I do believe it was a house fire, yes.

[3:23:39] And then so it's already been abated. It's already been on fire. Here it is down here. We go again in this whoever it is coming in there

[3:23:47] So this isn't as if someone's who doesn't own the property. No, it's saying they own the property

[3:23:52] Let's say a time machine if so I'd like to get in and

[3:23:56] Do some of the things I've done in my life. This does not she does not own it

[3:24:05] There is a brother of the deceased that

[3:24:08] But everything would fall to that he is now the one who is willing to take responsibility.

[3:24:16] Well, he doesn't have, he has as much legal responsibility as I do for the product, unless

[3:24:19] the probates open.

[3:24:20] A judge makes a decision, not us, not me, not the DA.

[3:24:24] So that's just not relevant.

[3:24:25] The problem here is that you have a pattern of abuse where people have been coming on to

[3:24:29] property.

[3:24:30] I went out there with tentacles in Augustine, same thing, oh, we own the property, oh,

[3:24:36] we own the property.

[3:24:37] You know, been saying I was out there five times at least talking to people or three to five times talking to you

[3:24:43] There's a pattern of people coming in there

[3:24:45] St. Telling deputies we own the place say get out of here

[3:24:48] We own the place and then here come RVs and then they're burning campfires and one time there are

[3:24:53] Shirts deputies showing up with there's I did not pull the cry forgot to do so I was gonna ask for you to decide and do is there was all

[3:25:00] I know there's 9-1-1 calls there, quite a few 9-1-1 calls, I'm sure there's somebody on the phone who will speak to that so I won't do that. But this is not a surprise situation. Everyone associated with this property, and apparently most people associated with the claim ownership of it, I might as well claim ownership of it myself, and so everyone is aware. There's definitely not a notice. We don't have a due process problem here because seems that everyone in town knows what's going on with this property, including us.

[3:25:28] So I have to just do this for the people who live on that street.

[3:25:32] I already feel bad because, you know, there's some flooding stuff going on and I was pretty

[3:25:36] feel really bad about not being able to fix that.

[3:25:38] But maybe I wouldn't mind hearing from testimony and as far as public comment if we can do that

[3:25:46] Mr. Chairman at some time.

[3:25:48] Soon.

[3:25:48] Thank you.

[3:25:49] We will definitely do that.

[3:25:51] Commissioner, it's on our list here.

[3:25:57] Okay. If the property owners are present, please come forward.

[3:26:03] Is there anyone on the phone

[3:26:05] saying that would be very long? I do have a hand raised. The caller is unmuted. Please

[3:26:12] speak and spell your name for the record.

[3:26:17] Lisa Stodelman, S-T-A-T-T-E-L-M-N. I am a neighbor

[3:26:23] of this property and kind of talking for all the neighbors here. I do have to correct you because

[3:26:28] As Annie Turner died in April of 2024 and was taken from her because she had dementia.

[3:26:39] So the house was burnt down in November of 24.

[3:26:44] So, ma'am, I am sorry.

[3:26:47] I am.

[3:26:48] I believe that this is public comment.

[3:26:51] This is not the owner of the property that's present so I think that we need to ask her to

[3:26:57] call back.

[3:26:57] If you hold tight, ma'am, we will get right back to you, okay?

[3:27:06] There's nobody, there is no one.

[3:27:10] All right.

[3:27:11] The death date, we're working on the family, telling us, you know, when it's turned over past.

[3:27:17] So this is two plus years.

[3:27:19] Okay.

[3:27:20] Any questions from any of the board?

[3:27:25] Let's, I've got one question.

[3:27:28] Is the public administrator involved in this property?

[3:27:32] Susan did contact Ginger and she is not received this property.

[3:27:39] Okay, so we're going to continue on here.

[3:27:41] pursuant to night county code 17.04.860k2, if the property owners fail to appear the commission may proceed with the hearing and take any enforcement action deemed appropriate.

[3:27:53] Now we're going to open public comment and see what we have for that.

[3:27:57] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

[3:27:59] Yes,

[3:28:02] chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak in spell your name for the record.

[3:28:08] Okay. Lisa Solomon, STA, TT, ELMAN. I am a neighbor, a new Annie Turner. She was moved away

[3:28:18] in 2023, I believe, or 22. She passed away in April of 24 and people moved into that home

[3:28:29] and burn it down with a mess lab in November of 2024.

[3:28:35] In April of this year, those same people came back

[3:28:39] and opened a homeless encampment.

[3:28:42] And by all vision, it is a drug dealing operation also.

[3:28:50] The traffic, we believe that coming in and out,

[3:28:53] all hours in and out quick,

[3:28:57] even though they removed the RV and the fifth wheel, like the folks said, there's so much trash there and everything, it's ridiculous.

[3:29:07] And they're still dropping off people, a few blocks away, walking in in the middle of the night, walking out.

[3:29:14] We all have cameras on our homes, so we all know this is going on. That's why there's been 9-1-1 calls.

[3:29:19] So we still believe there's drugs going on there.

[3:29:24] It's been terrible for a neighborhood or property values.

[3:29:27] And since the neighbor is this and Annie is deceased,

[3:29:31] I couldn't give ahold of anybody except her son through messenger

[3:29:35] and he never, after he, I told him, he never responded back to me.

[3:29:41] Now the police and the county, I believe, have done everything they can

[3:29:45] and been very, very helpful to all of us.

[3:29:48] I think this property should be abated immediately because I don't want these people coming back a third time.

[3:29:55] Notices have been posted. The fence is not complete and we'd like it complete.

[3:30:00] So nobody can go back into that property because her family's in Chicago and they're not involved at all. Never were when she was here either except her grandson who I think promoted all this action. But notices have been posted, you they given another two weeks after the last meeting and we just like thank you very much for that. That was very informative. Come on down.

[3:30:29] Suzy.

[3:30:33] Suzy here, it's H-E-R-T-Z. It's, I would think that it's pretty easy to determine

[3:30:39] when the owner of the property died. It's public record. So how come we don't have that information

[3:30:45] here today? Why are we looking at that whole situation? If that's a relevant issue, that

[3:30:53] should have been researched and determined. You know, you have hearsay from neighbors

[3:30:58] and then what Celeste was saying is maybe from the granddaughter we think we know this, but that's public record, so we need to get our act together. Thank you.

[3:31:11] Thanks, Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[3:31:14] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please begin to spell your name for the record.

[3:31:20] Hello, Commissioner,

[3:31:35] but once again, it goes back to, uh, no

[3:31:40] problem. Notice now that you're,

[3:31:42] you know, if you want to take action, take action, then fill it against this date, but without

[3:31:47] notifying the state, you kind of, uh, put the new process and have

[3:31:53] to marry around here to

[3:31:58] proceed,

[3:31:58] the fifth amendment.

[3:32:11] Thank you. Sam, do we have any other else, please?

[3:32:14] Yes, chair, the caller is

[3:32:16] unmuted. Please speak and explain your name for the record.

[3:32:20] Yeah, say me Nelson. Any else,

[3:32:23] So I'm glad the neighbor called in and explained to you what's been going on.

[3:32:29] I've had a couple of people talk to me and they're really in favor of the

[3:32:33] abatement. And like she said, it's been a blight in the neighborhood and

[3:32:39] actually kind of dangerous for the kinds of people that are attracted there. But

[3:32:44] that's my two cents. Thank you very much.

[3:32:48] Thanks Amy, look down Paul, I'm dying off here.

[3:32:53] All right, need some water, drink, I always tell my boy drinks some water.

[3:33:01] I'd like to say that if due process is brought up multiple times here, we could all consider maybe Paul Lemus,

[3:33:09] LEMUS, if due process is brought up multiple times by the community.

[3:33:13] The problem, one of the inconsistencies with the International Property Maintenance Code and

[3:33:18] why it was repealed from law here in Knight County, was due to the fact that there was no proper due process there.

[3:33:25] And so what you can do, though, is you can maybe form an ad hoc committee,

[3:33:29] would be a suggestion, and then have a committee that does the appeals, the proper appeals.

[3:33:34] Maybe even you could label arms budsman, I know Mr. Wagner's doing a good job, but

[3:33:39] He's got so much to do, maybe you could get a new position and ad hoc committee, just a possibility, and then add that too.

[3:33:46] So when you're giving these people these leans, they still have one chance to appeal it before they lose it all the way.

[3:33:52] And that way you've not only done due process by all your proper notifications, but

[3:33:56] you've followed through by even giving them a second step to retain or regain their property back.

[3:34:00] Just a suggestion.

[3:34:02] Thank you for that, Sam, anybody on the phone please?

[3:34:07] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[3:34:09] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[3:34:13] First shots in J.O.H.N.S. and now I'm going to give you my opinion.

[3:34:20] Clean the property off, remove the people, that's the benefit of the people, if you remove

[3:34:27] the vagrants it seems to have gone in there and squatted.

[3:34:32] You have every authority to do that as far as taking the process without the due process

[3:34:37] of law.

[3:34:38] If you don't have any authority to do that because we're talking about a deceased person here

[3:34:43] that I can't defend themselves. So you need to allow that process to work itself out through

[3:34:50] the state and public and the administrator. But you guys do have authority to go deal

[3:34:58] with the crackheads, they have.

[3:35:00] And the beyond the property. And you do have the authority that this lady is dead. You have the authority to go ahead and clean this up, but you don't have the authority to take the real estate. And I landed there. Thank you.

[3:35:14] Thank you, Sam. Anybody else in the phone, please. Yes. Chair, I think it might be a repeat caller. They're unmuted. Please speak and file your name for the record.

[3:35:28] My name is Darryl Young, I owe you in G. I'm a neighbor and a friend of

[3:35:34] and I have her obituary in front of me right now, she passed away on April 11th, 2024. Shortly

[3:35:43] after that her grandson moved all his drug buddy friends into the house and they were the ones that

[3:35:51] burned the house down and I filed the original complaint against the house and you guys abated

[3:35:56] and cleaned the property. Then they turned around and came back in with all these trailers and RVs

[3:36:02] and all this junk, and it was the same people.

[3:36:05] So this has been going on for four years.

[3:36:08] Four years have been going on.

[3:36:10] So it's time to clean this place up,

[3:36:12] get these people out and fence it off.

[3:36:14] It's destroying our neighborhood.

[3:36:17] Thank you very much, sir.

[3:36:19] I don't disagree.

[3:36:20] Say I'm anybody else, please.

[3:36:21] Thank you.

[3:36:22] No chair.

[3:36:23] All right, we're going to close public comment.

[3:36:24] Mr. Chairman, just follow up with a question

[3:36:27] for the officers of the county.

[3:36:31] Sure.

[3:36:32] Is that acceptable?

[3:36:33] No, yeah.

[3:36:33] I just have it so my question is I just want to make sure we get this right so when it's when it's written the grand

[3:36:40] others another as did a deed of death eating property. Is that just orally or verbally communicated? How did you?

[3:36:48] Why did you write that?

[3:36:51] Susan did have a phone conversation and I'm sorry she's not here. She did have a phone

[3:36:56] confirmation with the granddaughter and I believe the granddaughter did send her a copy of that over and that's

[3:37:01] Susan realized it you know it hasn't been recorded. Okay. Of course it's still

[3:37:06] unrecorded. That person is still at the owner now that would be sitting somewhere

[3:37:11] not being posted so that's entirely possible. My question is did someone admit to

[3:37:16] it not being recorded in time or was that something that we came to the conclusion of?

[3:37:22] The grand daughter said that she did not know that it needed to be recorded before

[3:37:27] she passed away. Okay so the DA is not here but he has said and I don't know

[3:37:31] If it was on the record that you can look it up, it's probably there.

[3:37:33] I know in California it is, I don't know about Nevada, it was a really similar.

[3:37:37] It has to be recorded prior to death, obviously, because it's a special thing.

[3:37:42] One of the points that I just want to make is in the event that this is a person that was

[3:37:48] taken to some kind of care, there will likely be a big bill for that care.

[3:37:54] And so, anybody opening probate will likely not recover the price, the cost of this,

[3:38:01] any of it that they're asked to pay back all of the care fees, which could be 200,000.

[3:38:06] And my mother died after being in a nursing over two years, it was like $3,000.

[3:38:10] So that's how that works.

[3:38:13] So I don't know that my fear is that no one will open probate for this.

[3:38:19] As far as, you know, someone said that they looked and they have an obituary and I don't doubt that I had a family member in Cook County, Illinois, same place that we thought was dead.

[3:38:32] I called my uncle who was assistant chief of police somewhere and he couldn't figure it out.

[3:38:36] I don't know. I couldn't figure it out.

[3:38:37] But he didn't even know as an assistant chief of police in Illinois, the Chicago suburb.

[3:38:41] He couldn't, there's no button you can press to find out if people are dead.

[3:38:44] Cook County is notorious.

[3:38:45] I have gotten records from Cook County.

[3:38:47] It's not fun.

[3:38:48] It's notoriously hard to get records from.

[3:38:51] I was born there, so my concern is if we don't do anything, it could never open

[3:38:56] probate.

[3:38:56] No one could ever do anything and it would just continue in the state.

[3:38:59] It's been sounding like for about two plus years.

[3:39:02] I would really like to make a motion to give these people some relief.

[3:39:04] I feel very bad personally, but I'll wait until they appropriate time.

[3:39:08] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[3:39:09] Mr. Chair.

[3:39:10] Go ahead, sir.

[3:39:12] Thank you.

[3:39:13] And so we had two folks call in through public comment, giving us dates of the deceased.

[3:39:24] And I have here a date of June 9th, 2026, obituary, where Mr. Turner moved to Perump, Nevada

[3:39:36] and family return to Chicago ill and noise, it's one in the same person, so we have three

[3:39:44] different dates. June 9th, 2026, in the backup, it clearly reads that July was the date,

[3:39:50] so they're off by one month, okay, and we go by the backup. We appreciate the neighbors

[3:39:56] calling in, but we're going by the, I'm going by the backup.

[3:40:00] Here. And looking it up in the obituary, when you said you can't push a button, can I share it, but I looked it up myself. June 9th, 2026. It's not that's not in the back up. So second page it leads July. It reads that according to the owner was an turner passed away last month. This was the date here is August 5th, 2026 brings us to July.

[3:40:29] And

[3:40:41] this has not been recorded for the record.

[3:40:45] This has not been recorded with the county recorder as

[3:40:52] of today, according to the recorder.

[3:41:00] So Commissioner Jebore, are you seeking more time or I mean, what would you think?

[3:41:08] I'm giving, I'm giving chair, I'm giving more information, more information, okay?

[3:41:14] to help support what code enforcement has been doing.

[3:41:19] Again, I'm not challenging or criticizing their diligent work

[3:41:25] in putting this information together.

[3:41:28] It's very difficult when you don't have people on the property.

[3:41:31] Question I have is, so this is a baited property,

[3:41:36] property is totally fenced, and then how are we going to prohibit

[3:41:41] and stop, we'll call them vagrants, homeless, I'd like you to.

[3:41:47] How are we going to stop them from coming on this purpose?

[3:41:50] So there, and I've been inside the property, there is a fence.

[3:41:54] The problem is someone has kicked the fence in the front.

[3:41:57] Now when we evaded the building on West Street that was on fire,

[3:41:59] what was really great about what they did was, was that they did a really good job fencing.

[3:42:07] So whoever did that, a good job to you, that's a great job.

[3:42:10] Of course, it's been kicked in since then, but no one's there.

[3:42:13] The point I'm making is, as long as we have, if we abated,

[3:42:15] as long as we can secure it with the same kind of fence,

[3:42:19] I don't know that we have anyone sophisticated enough

[3:42:21] to breach that fence with whatever they've got.

[3:42:25] So that's what I would, I mean, that's what I would like to do,

[3:42:27] and I'm happy to make a discussion about it,

[3:42:29] is just, I don't think it would be that costly

[3:42:31] to remove what's there, at least from last week

[3:42:33] when I drove by here a couple days ago.

[3:42:35] Sunday, I drove by.

[3:42:37] And it just, it looks like it's just trash there or something, like just kind of impiles.

[3:42:43] So I don't, I don't think it's, it's not like one of these things where it's been embedded

[3:42:46] into the ground.

[3:42:46] Are there any kind of like waste issue the RVs have been removed unless they're back?

[3:42:53] But I, I would like to do a motion to remove the trash and then to secure the property with

[3:43:00] a fence.

[3:43:00] I don't know how this works.

[3:43:02] I know we have an incoming administrator and I'm out of my element for this, but we, we

[3:43:06] We do need to maybe notify that this is likely to be as cheated to the state.

[3:43:12] I don't know why that works, I don't really care, it's not my jurisdiction.

[3:43:16] But I would be pretty surprised if someone stepped forward and took possession of this property.

[3:43:20] So I don't know if that's part of this motion, is this part of that motion?

[3:43:24] No, we just, we just abated and then we just keep an eye on it.

[3:43:27] I think that's, I think that's what we do.

[3:43:29] But that's my concern is it's going to sit however it is.

[3:43:38] If there's a specific way to do a motion, can I ask a question, please, Chair?

[3:43:44] If I may, sorry.

[3:43:46] Go ahead, Celeste.

[3:43:47] So Susan has been in contact with the property owners, they are, sorry, the alleged property

[3:43:52] owners, the family, and they are aware that they do need to remove this junk, and they're

[3:43:58] willing to get this removed.

[3:44:01] That's so I don't know if we want to give them 30 days to abate it themselves and then we go in an abate because they were just

[3:44:09] I don't know that we can just have to notify that the trespass on to someone else's land.

[3:44:13] I don't know if we can do that.

[3:44:15] Can we authorize a trespass of this land?

[3:44:17] Is our DA not there?

[3:44:21] I'm here.

[3:44:22] Oh, what do you think, DA?

[3:44:28] I'm not sure I've heard a specific question, but what I'm hearing now is I think there's serious concerns about whether or not

[3:44:33] is actually constitutes a current of ownership.

[3:44:39] Well, ownership, but it's more a question of is it really truly a nuisance in this current condition?

[3:44:47] If you declared a nuisance, then the process is you have to serve notice for them to clean it up,

[3:44:55] and if they don't clean it up within 30 days, then the can-

[3:45:00] County has the ability to then abate the nuisance and then wherever the cost incurred become a lien on the property.

[3:45:11] I ask a question just because the code enforcement agents are going to have to deal with is that I'm just looking through how they handle it. Since the owner does not exist, then how how do they handle it if the people who have their properties on someone else's land, how do you want them to handle that? Well, the practical issue here is that

[3:45:31] But the county would have a lien on the property, but if it's not really enforceable because the estate has no money, I don't think the county should expect that they're going to be recouping any of the costs that's being incurred.

[3:45:44] I mean, we have to be honest about that.

[3:45:45] But the real question is, what do we, so the owner doesn't exist, there's no owner.

[3:45:50] Someone says, well, that's my pile of trash out there and I like to move, it's, can we

[3:45:54] can code legally say, yeah, go right on, I had that land that you don't own and go ahead

[3:45:58] and collect that.

[3:45:59] We should now be given permission to do anything with that land, other than clean up the

[3:46:02] nuisance.

[3:46:03] And who can do the cleaning of the nuisance?

[3:46:05] You had none, the done property?

[3:46:07] If the county declares it's a nuisance, then notice has to go out.

[3:46:11] If after 30 days they don't

[3:46:13] update the nuisance, then by law the county has the authority to go in and clean up the property and obey the nuisance.

[3:46:22] Do you want the code people to call their contacts and say get your stuff out of here, even though they're not the honors or does that?

[3:46:28] I don't want to put you on the spot.

[3:46:29] It's not a question of what I want.

[3:46:31] It's the only choice you have if you need to declare a nuisance or you don't declare a nuisance.

[3:46:35] I understand, thank you.

[3:46:38] And by the way, Commissioner Bain, seeing how you claimed ownership earlier, you'll have to recuse yourself.

[3:46:43] I'm the owner, so we're all owners of this property as much as anyone else.

[3:46:50] Sir, for when it's worth, I'm sorry, I'll still not.

[3:46:54] I'm still at, I've got a text into Rayland Powers and I'm looking at the tax records on

[3:47:00] this property, and the quarterly payments are only $94, but the first installment is $585.

[3:47:08] That's tells me that these are back taxes haven't been paid, and Rayland's on vacation.

[3:47:13] So, I don't know what the status of the taxes are, can you tell me?

[3:47:17] It looks unpaid and to the point where, you know, this whole thing is a hot mask.

[3:47:22] That's not even relevant, I mean, to be honest.

[3:47:24] Is it relevant because we've got to get it up and put the property.

[3:47:26] It is a nuisance or it isn't.

[3:47:27] That's true.

[3:47:28] That's true.

[3:47:29] That's the question.

[3:47:30] But as far as what the DA said about us being able to collect our money, if we end up taking

[3:47:34] the property from back taxes, we'll be collecting our money.

[3:47:37] It's my point.

[3:47:37] And thank you.

[3:47:38] I think if we give them 30 days, they will get it.

[3:47:42] They've been in contact since we finally talked to the granddaughter.

[3:47:45] He's been very cooperative.

[3:47:48] The grandson is the one that's in here in town.

[3:47:51] He's the one bringing the stuff in, but he did help remove what's been removed from the property.

[3:47:56] He brought it in and helped take it back home.

[3:47:59] He created it and then it's in the process of cleaning it up.

[3:48:03] How do you keep him out?

[3:48:05] Chair, go ahead.

[3:48:06] Chair, can I jump in here for a minute?

[3:48:07] Yes, please, please.

[3:48:07] I say so to everything I'm hearing, my suggestion is that we continue this for 30 days to see if we can get this thing cleaned up and then we can come back after 30 days and make a final decision.

[3:48:20] I like that I'm sure and I have I have to make a motion if it doesn't go that's fine I can't do that's these people we have been continuing this for years really if you go back to the time when it was burned down these people on the street have been dealing with these same people who said they were the same people from what the testimony is I'm getting

[3:48:38] who are saying that they are going to clean it up now, we're saying two years ago, and it burned down that they were going to clean it up and get out, and they got up for a couple months and then came right back.

[3:48:46] I can't do that if I lose, I lose, but I have to make the motion.

[3:48:50] So I had to make the motion.

[3:48:51] Yeah, please.

[3:48:51] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[3:48:52] Thank you. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that.

[3:48:53] I would define the property located 246161 South Mallorch Street,

[3:48:57] about a constitutes a nuisance in the condition, and that the condition of the property is a safety hazard and dangerous to public health and safety due to the combination of inoperable vehicles to parties trash chunk and debris across the property.

[3:49:12] If the nuisance is found, I move that if the conditions of the nuisance are not abated before October 1,

[3:49:21] in 2026, county is ordered to abate the conditions percentage in that county code 17.04.86.0.M.N.

[3:49:30] Staff, can I ask for an amendment on that?

[3:49:34] Could we identify a funding source if that's the case, how we would pay you to do that?

[3:49:40] How do we pay for the...

[3:49:41] What is the tip?

[3:49:42] Sorry.

[3:49:42] What is the typical funding source?

[3:49:44] Do you know?

[3:49:45] Well, we don't really have...

[3:49:46] That's part of the problem.

[3:49:47] And with these abatements, we don't have any kind of money that we collect in the

[3:49:53] co-compliance that pays for this kind of stuff.

[3:49:57] It's going to come out of somewhere else.

[3:50:00] So that's our comptroller. We have a motion on the floor and two seconds, by the way. Go ahead.

[3:50:07] We can use LATCF. Done.

[3:50:12] Easy. Is it acceptable through? Yep. Even there's a good chance it's going to get cleaned up. And I hope it does. So can I can I can I amend it without restating or no, Mr. DA? Yeah. Let's restate it. Make sure we're clear. I move to find the property located at 2461 South Mallorch Street,

[3:50:33] the current Nevada constitutes a nuisance in that the condition of the property is a safety hazard and dangerous to public health and safety do the accumulation of an on profile vehicles RV's trash chunk and debris across the property.

[3:50:47] In the event the nuisance is found, I move that if the conditions of the nuisance are not abated honor before October 1, 2026, the counties ordered to evade the conditions pursuant to the county code 17404 860 mn.

[3:51:03] the funding source for this being the LATCF funds.

[3:51:06] To board with draws his first, second motion, and I second this motion.

[3:51:16] All right, we have a motion on the floor and a second.

[3:51:19] My question for you real quick before we vote is how do we keep the scumbag, dude, from jumping over to the place?

[3:51:26] Do I put, I'm sorry, can I put out the restate there with a fence?

[3:51:30] I'm thank you, sir, I appreciate that, do you want me to rest?

[3:51:32] I will, I can do it real quick, I'm sorry.

[3:51:33] Just a major motion.

[3:51:35] Amending such as to the abated conditions is inclusive of the government putting a suitable

[3:51:45] fence around the entire property, noting that there is partial fence at the property

[3:51:52] at this time.

[3:51:56] Mr. Boer, so, oh, man, second.

[3:51:58] All right.

[3:51:58] We've got an amended everything and a second everything amended and we're ready to go.

[3:52:02] Let's vote.

[3:52:03] Aye.

[3:52:04] All right.

[3:52:05] Hi.

[3:52:06] Good morning, Zai.

[3:52:07] Basketball tie, that carries 5-0.

[3:52:08] Thank you, Rob, and Celeste.

[3:52:11] Just to be clear and correct me if I'm wrong, DA.

[3:52:16] If it goes to the point of the county having to abate it,

[3:52:20] and we're going to use LATCF,

[3:52:22] we're going to have to come back and get that amount approved

[3:52:26] to amend our spending plan for the LATCF, correct?

[3:52:32] Yeah, if that was not part of the motion,

[3:52:33] I wasn't sure if it was or not.

[3:52:36] Yeah, it wasn't. I'm just getting clarification and we could we could do we could do that later. That's correct. Okay. Can't measure.

[3:52:43] All right. Good work. Let's do 12. Please item

[3:52:53] 12 for possible action discussion and deliberation regarding clarification on the scope and intent of the current county.

[3:53:00] hiring freeze as it relates to personnel within the public safety offices, departments.

[3:53:07] Specifically, the sheriff's office is requesting that the board determine whether the hiring freeze is intended to apply to positions within the sheriff's office,

[3:53:16] prompt valet fire and emergency medical services, or whether they are exempt from the hiring freeze.

[3:53:23] Thank you for that.

[3:53:29] So the reason we brought this up is because there keeps going back and forth as to do we have a freeze?

[3:53:36] Do we not have a freeze?

[3:53:37] Do we have a freeze?

[3:53:38] Do we not have a freeze?

[3:53:39] It seems like every other week it goes a different way.

[3:53:45] The last we discussed something relative to this was replacing a terminated employee.

[3:53:52] I understand that is complicated in another way, however, should this issue come up again,

[3:54:05] we need to know whether we can rehire or fill our positions.

[3:54:08] If we don't, we are going to be reducing our staff in effect by not allowing us to replace

[3:54:17] staff that may or may not leave for whatever reason.

[3:54:20] so

[3:54:23] that's where I am. Okay. Can I offer some input on this? Yes, please. Okay, when

[3:54:30] the budget was adopted, all vacant positions, if they become vacant or vacant at

[3:54:37] that time, in the general fund, were frozen. It does not mean a department cannot

[3:54:43] come back to the board and request that position to be filled. It is just an

[3:54:49] extra step but a lot of times when people do get terminated, resign, whatever the case

[3:54:56] this may be, there's a cruells that have to be paid up.

[3:55:00] Now, with that position, like vacation time, sick time, and what we need to be cognizant of is if, with that added cost of the accrual with that position leaving, sometimes if we leave it vacant for 90 days, let's say, we can recoup that to where we're now back to what was actually budgeted for that position for that year. So that's kind of what that extra step is in, therefore, as far as the fire department goes,

[3:55:29] Does this does not affect the fire department at this time because they are not part of the night county general fund, okay?

[3:55:38] You're free.

[3:55:41] It's like, okay, so let's-

[3:55:46] So does that make sense?

[3:55:49] What I'm hearing is that when the position becomes vacant, you put in the vacancy form so that we can look at it as a board

[3:55:57] and make sure that we have the accrual if there's been an accrual so that we keep our keep

[3:56:06] within our budget. My understanding of the accrual is that that is accounted for in a fund of a

[3:56:19] accrual fund. That's a good name. That's not correct in a perfect world. Yes, that's the way it should

[3:56:26] work, but that has not been done until now. That is something we are starting to accrue

[3:56:34] for, but at this point, we don't have much build up in there to keep up with the pace.

[3:56:40] So eventually, yes, you're right. Hopefully, we won't have to take that into consideration

[3:56:46] anymore. But at this point, we don't have those accruals, and we had some pretty big redirements

[3:56:51] that we just went through, so it's depleted a little bit we had.

[3:56:59] Okay, how about we, well

[3:57:04] we have to do public too.

[3:57:06] So, Commissioner Gabor or Bain, do you have anything before we go to public comment?

[3:57:11] Public comment please.

[3:57:12] Okay, we're going to hang tight Joe, we're going to open up public comment.

[3:57:17] Come on down Mr. Pittman.

[3:57:22] Steven Pittman, P-I-T-M-A-N, as your well aware, the primary function of a government is the safety of its citizens.

[3:57:31] Thank you.

[3:57:33] Thank you.

[3:57:34] Come on down a prompt, please.

[3:57:39] Angelina Jackson, J.A.C. Cancelin.

[3:57:43] Of course, first and foremost, our first responders should be paid for their time and their sacrifices that make more than anybody.

[3:57:54] in this county. And there's a difference in the salaries. There's some of them actually exceed which one would expect to be paid over a hundred thousand.

[3:58:08] Because Mr. Boskovich, you can sit there and shake your head.

[3:58:11] No, I'll agree with you.

[3:58:12] Okay. And thank you for that. And so there's positions that aren't explainable.

[3:58:20] Okay. Why we have 30 administrators or secretaries is beyond me.

[3:58:26] there's all these people getting paid the nothing to show for it and yet the

[3:58:33] shares department and fire department are the ones that are you know losing

[3:58:37] here and I'm all for it however there has to be accountability for these

[3:58:44] positions. It blows my mind that Tony Paul and the other challenge barely have

[3:58:49] any any first responders whatsoever. So somebody's gonna have to take some

[3:58:54] cutbacks and other departments in order to pay them and there's no other way because

[3:59:02] it's obvious there's no more money in the town. We have no more money. So where are

[3:59:08] you guys are planning to get this money from us beyond me? You guys are going to look

[3:59:12] at all the employees that you guys have on this. They were paying $64 million for a year

[3:59:18] and take some cutbacks because some people believe me when you have an administrative secretary

[3:59:23] that's making $160,000 a year.

[3:59:26] Come on.

[3:59:28] That's ridiculous.

[3:59:31] Somebody needs to look back at payroll

[3:59:33] and make some choices here in order for these departments

[3:59:36] because us as taxpayers, we have no more to give.

[3:59:41] Everything that they've given, we've shown nothing for.

[3:59:44] Thank you.

[3:59:44] Sam, anybody coming to Toronto, Bob, please?

[3:59:47] Oh, OK.

[3:59:48] Let's go to Tonapal.

[3:59:49] All right, Tim Bohinen, B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N.

[3:59:55] Public safety is very important.

[3:59:57] Regents are very important.

[3:59:59] Welcome to finance.

[4:00:00] The key here is balance.

[4:00:05] The key also is, okay, what is the extra cost beyond this? You fund it? Great. Have you counted for day two? Have you counted for the retirement? Costs that are associated with that, the employment benefits. Making sure that's addressed in the budget. Making sure that's addressed in the funding. Those are all key elements.

[4:00:28] I'm referred to the board to say, hey, safety, finance, it's a tough combination, watch

[4:00:39] our budget and watch our people.

[4:00:41] Thank you.

[4:00:42] Thank you.

[4:00:43] Come on down Beth.

[4:00:51] Beth Bore-Sevich.

[4:00:53] That was weird.

[4:00:54] B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

[4:00:57] When we first started talking about freezing positions, I seemed to recall that it was

[4:01:04] All that you guys were all in favor of always being prepared to keep the police department or sheriff's department sorry funded and with employees.

[4:01:20] So there should be no question, I don't know where you're going to get the money from, LATCF.

[4:01:27] I don't know where you're going to get it, go into every department and tell them there's a 5% cut on everybody's salary.

[4:01:33] That will pay for the sheriff's that we need.

[4:01:38] Instead of the people having to bite the bullet and potentially have more taxes,

[4:01:44] I think that all the staff should go ahead and suffer as well with us.

[4:01:52] Five percent, I don't know how much that would hurt anybody, but

[4:01:56] that would pay for officers that we need.

[4:02:00] Thank you.

[4:02:00] Thank you, Sam. Now we'll check the phone, please.

[4:02:04] Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[4:02:10] Hello, commissioners, Bruce Johnson, JLH and SOM.

[4:02:15] And to all our final lovely paropians out there.

[4:02:20] It might be time for the paropians actually to come together as a township.

[4:02:27] and consider doing a little reforming within our county.

[4:02:35] And, you know, we need to start looking at all these retirement plans,

[4:02:41] all the union contributions.

[4:02:44] Didn't we just have a bunch of money that just got approved on the last meeting

[4:02:48] that went to union organizers or something for the firefighters?

[4:02:54] And you know there's a lot of places that a lot of money goes out to other people that actually could be paying these positions.

[4:03:02] If this community was operating correctly as in Republican informed.

[4:03:09] So I just want the people out there to consider that.

[4:03:13] And there are ways to make that happen lawfully.

[4:03:17] And so we will get into discussion about that and I landed there. Thank you.

[4:03:22] Thank you.

[4:03:23] Come on down.

[4:03:24] Debra

[4:03:28] Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S, it really concerns me when I see on an app on my phone.

[4:03:41] And I see that, oh my gosh, there's all kinds of people that are in trouble or have

[4:03:51] gotten enrex, have gotten stock.

[4:03:53] It seems like we don't have enough police officers to do that.

[4:03:57] I don't know. I might be wrong. Am I wrong? I didn't think so.

[4:04:03] So I think we need to do everything we can even if we have to cut back someplace else

[4:04:10] because we really need to be protected. We need to have protection from people that

[4:04:19] that are inherently bad and also we need to be protected,

[4:04:26] have our children protected from people that sell drugs.

[4:04:32] Thank you.

[4:04:34] Thank you, Sam.

[4:04:36] Do you have anybody for me?

[4:04:37] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[4:04:39] Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[4:04:44] Hello, Commissioner Michael David Garcia, T-A-R-G-I-A.

[4:04:48] My volume okay for you this time.

[4:04:50] That's good Michael.

[4:04:54] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it anyhow boy

[4:05:00] You know, we really got to come up out of the ether when it comes to the safety tool. This is the same man that came before you and describe the flop use and his criminal activity by abusing and neglecting the systems as a safety tool. You know, I don't know how far you can go with the latch, the misappropriations of it, but maybe we get some more that handle our internal fraud and civil rights violations. And I'm trying to figure out what

[4:05:30] But we can't use the last money for it.

[4:05:33] You know, USC 18666 again are all my state and federal partners that might have

[4:05:39] a ear omnis, because the prime example of it, you know, it's a safety tool.

[4:05:43] We were formed to protect liberty, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, property rights,

[4:05:51] inherent rights.

[4:05:52] You talk about drugs, but the number one economic market is against these children.

[4:05:58] but look at our courts.

[4:06:00] Six years, you can never talk about the traffic of children

[4:06:03] in these courts, by these badges, where you at?

[4:06:07] You've got to latch.

[4:06:09] You want to latch on to something?

[4:06:13] Are you still there?

[4:06:14] How much time do I have?

[4:06:17] Can you engage?

[4:06:18] I can't see the cloth from here.

[4:06:20] I've got a 30-second leg.

[4:06:24] Accountability, responsibility, transparent.

[4:06:28] Lauren,

[4:06:30] fraud, extortion, and official oppression, that's all y'all are.

[4:06:38] So who's going to help that, can we reallocate them last year, a special prosecution for that?

[4:06:44] It's going to hold me, Michael.

[4:06:46] Good evening, Linda.

[4:06:50] Linda Clark's LARK.

[4:06:52] I

[4:06:55] came from California, originally.

[4:06:59] You could be who if you want.

[4:07:00] I wouldn't go back if they paid me to go back.

[4:07:04] And then I went to Colorado.

[4:07:05] battle. Beautiful place, beautiful place where I lived, lovely home, lovely neighborhood.

[4:07:12] And then I came here.

[4:07:16] And I love it here. I've said before, I don't love our government

[4:07:20] because I think it's very unfunctional.

[4:07:24] But I'm thinking about, we've got people maybe

[4:07:28] going to be moving here. Who knows? They keep looking at what's going on here. I sure wouldn't

[4:07:33] come again but we're going to have all these houses being built and supposedly all the schools

[4:07:41] are going to get filled and we'll have enough room for all of them. We're going to have

[4:07:44] all these people here. We need the fire department and we need the sheriff's department. We can't

[4:07:50] survive on what we have now. He's already running ragged from one end of the county to the

[4:07:56] other and I'm sure that Mr. Lewis is also. So how do we solve that? And whatever you think

[4:08:02] you're going to do. Where's the money come from? I know. We're going to get another grant.

[4:08:09] I'm still sick of hearing that word. We're not going to get another grant. And even if you did,

[4:08:14] it's still not going to pay for anything. So why don't we just try to figure out? Maybe we only need

[4:08:19] three commissioners instead of five. I don't know if that's legal. But it's a good idea. We could cut

[4:08:26] some expenses there. We think, yeah. So and there's probably a lot of other departments in this

[4:08:32] government since we know we have probably too many and maybe a lot of them that are overpaid

[4:08:39] and don't get me wrong people need the income today because of our economy and I'm not knocking that

[4:08:44] but we have to make cuts. Zena knows that you know we have people in this town that understand that

[4:08:52] But for some reason it doesn't move does it? Thank you. Okay, Sam. Do you have anybody on the phone? Please?

[4:08:59] No chair. Come on up. Do I?

[4:09:06] Do I delay LILY? Well, I think our we've just went through all the budgets

[4:09:13] The county's broke

[4:09:15] We need more police officers

[4:09:16] So it seems to me where we find the money for the police officers is we lay off people in other departments

[4:09:22] and then you have the money to hire a police officer.

[4:09:26] This is a commissioner's choice here.

[4:09:28] You guys spent the money on salaries.

[4:09:31] I looked at transparent Nevada,

[4:09:34] 25 people making two, $300,000 a year.

[4:09:37] We lay some people off enough to what do we need?

[4:09:41] Six, 10?

[4:09:42] I don't know if you all said how many officers we need.

[4:09:44] Then you divide that by how many you laid off,

[4:09:47] and then you have your police officer.

[4:09:49] So it comes down to the commissioners,

[4:09:51] is public safety more important is a more important to have a police officer or a firefighter

[4:09:57] out doing actually saving lives

[4:10:00] Let me protect the people, or is it more important having another person being paid on the payroll? If it's police officer, then you lay somebody else off and pay the people and then the problem's solved. But that's the decision you guys have to make. But to run us out of budget again, let's find money out of this account. You'll be right back where you were this year next June, wondering why we are $15 million in the whole. John brought it up before.

[4:10:29] You guys people say you want us to spend men money. I'm telling you not to spend money

[4:10:33] I'm telling you read a portion of the money to take care of public safety

[4:10:39] So this department out of eight people late to a mob now you can fire an officer. This is not copy

[4:10:45] It's not rocket science. You're just are you willing to do it? I don't know. We'll see

[4:10:53] Thank you to it. It's always very

[4:10:55] easy

[4:10:57] Come on down sir

[4:11:04] Darrell Wade, WAD, being a former EMS member, having worked with forces of many walks,

[4:11:13] police, etc. I am in this for Joe. I am in this for the department. We need more officers.

[4:11:20] When you're laying in bed at night and there's a house burning next to you, you're going

[4:11:24] to wonder if you have enough officers or police officers to handle that situation.

[4:11:32] Now I

[4:11:32] can be creative. We need to put our heads together, stop playing, blame on everybody else,

[4:11:39] get down, sit down and figure it out. That's the bottom line. We need more EMS. We've got

[4:11:47] an aging fleet. We need to get the fleets up. We need to get our proper equipment going

[4:11:52] for today's standards. It's just a matter of creative financing. Let's get it together

[4:11:58] to do it.

[4:11:59] That's all I got to say.

[4:12:00] Thank you, Sam.

[4:12:01] Anybody on the phone, please.

[4:12:02] No chair.

[4:12:03] Come on up, Anthony.

[4:12:07] Anthony Greco, GRECO.

[4:12:10] If I was in charge, I would sit down with everybody we have contracts with and renegotiate

[4:12:16] contracts because the unions cannot force us to bankrupt ourselves.

[4:12:24] So they're going to have to work with us to cut back and make new contracts and not

[4:12:29] That way for them to expire, because we could just tell the unit your services are no longer needed.

[4:12:38] Thank you for that.

[4:12:39] Come on down, Tammy.

[4:12:43] Good afternoon, Tammy, that's the PIT, M-A-N.

[4:12:47] So I know Ms. Tesch can confirm that there is a fund that was made years ago to put money aside every year

[4:12:57] to a crew for when people leave, for separation, vacation, PTO, etc., it has not been funded

[4:13:05] for the last, I don't know how many years because nobody's putting money in it, and I'm

[4:13:09] probably wouldn't doubt if someone's coming out of it, and it's gone to nothing, but there

[4:13:14] was a fund, and the name of it has escaped me, but I have it, and so, yes, so the fund still

[4:13:21] exists. Y'all have to start realizing that you have to put that money in every year or

[4:13:27] you're going to bankrupt us every year. There's no going getting away from it. And when

[4:13:34] we tell our departments, you have x number of dollars to spend instead of saying, oh,

[4:13:39] this is my wish list, I want this much money. Get into it the other way around. This is our

[4:13:45] fixed costs. This is how much money is coming in from.

[4:13:48] The property tax is how much we know what's going to come in from sales tax.

[4:13:53] Say, okay, it orders our fixed costs.

[4:13:57] This is how much this department gets.

[4:13:58] This is department gets, this department gets.

[4:14:00] And one of the fixed costs has to be money going into that account.

[4:14:04] You can't avoid it, or you may as well just close up shop.

[4:14:09] Thanks, Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[4:14:11] No, chair.

[4:14:12] All right, we're going to close public comment.

[4:14:15] Go ahead, Joe.

[4:14:18] I did not.

[4:14:20] I know that we're broke, I know this county is poor, I know that this county is not, that this, this, under funding has been building and building and building for many, many years, but our staffing has not been building the population has been.

[4:14:41] I know I stand up here and say this to you all the time, but we're at the same

[4:14:46] pot, we're at the same staffing level that we were at 10 to 20 years ago. And we

[4:14:51] cannot continue to operate at that level. Right now I realize we don't have any

[4:15:00] Open positions, okay? Because they were all taken away.

[4:15:05] That's another issue that needs to be addressed before two terrible long, but can't be addressed today. I just need to know that if I have a person resign or if I terminate a person that I can replace that person, that's all, that's all I'm asking right now. It's a pretty small ask. I just, I mean, I, I, I got an application sent to me from HR. I'm not the right person.

[4:15:31] this morning on my email for a lateral transfer from

[4:15:35] Metro Police. I want to come out here and work.

[4:15:40] He's certified. It would only take a few weeks to

[4:15:43] training him in the way we do things and we could

[4:15:48] get him up and run it. We just need to know that we can hire him or not.

[4:15:55] That's all I'm asking right now. And it's my understanding that

[4:15:57] if there's a position that Joe or Scott or whoever needs

[4:16:01] a fill, they bring an item forward, and this board votes on that position, is that correct?

[4:16:06] With a justification, and I'm going to correct one statement that was just made, that we're

[4:16:12] at the same staffing level as 20 years ago.

[4:16:15] In 2022, I believe we had a nice contract which added 19 positions.

[4:16:22] Those positions have not went away.

[4:16:24] But I did.

[4:16:24] That's far less than 20 years ago, right?

[4:16:27] I completely get it and the bottom line is each of our property taxes has a cap if it's owner-occupied of I believe 3% right so each year

[4:16:37] Each year our property tax goes up 3 more percent which goes into the coffers tell me how much inflation has been

[4:16:46] This is not this is not that is not the whole excuse but we all damn well know when we go fill up our freaking cars

[4:16:54] It does not cost today what it did five years ago, and bread, eggs, anything else.

[4:17:02] So that's also a problem.

[4:17:04] And nobody wants to raise taxes, and everybody wants to cut expenditures which we're going

[4:17:11] to get to your items here very soon, and you're going to let people know what leaps and bounds

[4:17:17] have been made just in the last year and a half.

[4:17:20] So it is a big problem to not raise taxes, understanding that inflation is outpacing our property tax payments.

[4:17:30] I don't like paying taxes, and I sure as heck I'm not going to offer to pay more, but where it is.

[4:17:38] I understand your problem, though, I do, and believe me, I'm not against it.

[4:17:42] But the deficit that we had when Zina came on, you know, whenever we were so freaking

[4:17:51] far upside down, it was pathetic, and they have made amazing strides to get us back.

[4:17:58] Your department was terribly upside down the jail, which we'll get it all taken care

[4:18:05] of.

[4:18:05] It's just, money doesn't fall from the sky.

[4:18:08] So we've got to cut where we can and spend wisely.

[4:18:15] Mr. Chairman, may I very quickly?

[4:18:17] Go ahead.

[4:18:17] I'm going to try to make it quick.

[4:18:18] Thank you.

[4:18:19] I guess I'm just, if we have no open positions, I guess I just don't.

[4:18:23] I understand it's another step.

[4:18:24] But if that's what everyone wants is to go before the board and ask for the justification,

[4:18:28] what is the problem with that, I guess?

[4:18:30] And I'm not, I'm not trying to study what for failure and say how I feel.

[4:18:33] But what, what is the sticking point?

[4:18:35] is to why can't we just say hey we have an open position and then just go

[4:18:40] before that we have these meetings I feel like they're like they're every day

[4:18:42] and honestly they're like every two weeks and we keep adding them so I'm not

[4:18:47] trying to push back but I just I don't understand the difference functionally

[4:18:53] from a management standpoint of asking for the justification form so that we

[4:18:57] get the justification form so there's no other department heads that are mad

[4:19:00] that they don't have to one department doesn't and the other does in the event

[4:19:04] I think that we just approve of everything that's given to us as far as any first responder positions.

[4:19:08] I guess I just don't understand what the difference is.

[4:19:10] Is there a difference between not having a freeze and having to come before us?

[4:19:14] Does anyone know?

[4:19:16] The problem commissioners last time we were here, there didn't seem to be a consensus between all as to whether we were frozen.

[4:19:26] Sheriff, you know why that position cannot be filled.

[4:19:30] that position. Yes, I understand. But we had we had a dispatcher position that was denied us

[4:19:38] because there wasn't no consensus as to whether we were under a freezer or not.

[4:19:44] You did come back? Oh, we said no. You come back with a justification form just like anybody else does.

[4:19:53] When you're presented to the commissioners, they need to know what they're saying yes to.

[4:19:57] They need to know that there's money to cover it.

[4:20:00] That's all that's being required. You need to represent what that item wouldn't even be considered at the last time we were here because nobody knew whether we were under a freeze or not.

[4:20:21] So there's a form that we have to fill out of office of sheriff or whatever it is, I want to dispatch her and then it gets presented.

[4:20:30] I mean, I'll sponsor your stuff if you want, I'm just trying to understand why I didn't vote on a dispatcher position.

[4:20:39] Did you, did anyone, I don't want to remember that, no one up here remembers a dispatcher position.

[4:20:43] Did you put it on the agenda?

[4:20:45] And not to overstep here, but sheriff, you're not wrong, that freeze was confusing.

[4:20:53] But it wasn't necessarily as confusing as it may have sounded, because it wasn't set

[4:20:58] to be a forever freeze.

[4:21:00] Zena had a task at hand to try to get our stuff in order, balanced budget, uh-huh, adopt.

[4:21:08] And so the freeze was introduced for that period of time and after July, whatever, the new fiscal year, right?

[4:21:19] Any items or any positions that you need or Scott needs or whoever needs, bring him forward.

[4:21:25] If we can figure out how to do it.

[4:21:29] I guess my question is, I would like an answer.

[4:21:32] What is the difference between, I don't want a freeze.

[4:21:35] But if all the county manager wants us a little form filled out, is that correct?

[4:21:40] County manager?

[4:21:41] Yes, and I want the cost of the decision you're going to be made.

[4:21:48] I want you guys to be aware of that so you can make an educated decision because those forms go through,

[4:21:56] I'm sorry, the forms go through finance, they go through HR.

[4:22:01] HR costs out what that position is going to be if it's a lateral, sometimes we

[4:22:08] hire them in at a step three instead of a step one. They're hired in at a

[4:22:14] little higher cost. They might be replacing the step one position that

[4:22:18] vacated. So there's research and information that goes into those forms that

[4:22:26] goes into the back up so you guys see exactly what it's going to cost and if we budget it

[4:22:33] forward or if we're having to add to the budget or et cetera go ahead you're just concerned

[4:22:39] that something's just going to be done and no one's going to know about it and all of a sudden

[4:22:42] here's a new guy no that's not what it is because I've got to get rid of the ban I mean my point is

[4:22:48] if we got rid of this whatever ban going on the concern from county management is just all of a

[4:22:52] and here's Deputy Jones, he just shows up and nobody knows about him, but he's already

[4:22:56] being put through.

[4:22:57] Is that the concern?

[4:22:58] Is things just getting put through?

[4:23:00] No.

[4:23:01] The concern is the cost and zenist task of getting us back on track.

[4:23:06] Which we're going to hear.

[4:23:07] There's no difference effectively between just going through this process and putting these

[4:23:13] forms of all the stuff in it.

[4:23:15] And let me refresh this.

[4:23:18] If we made the decision, we're just going to prove everything for the sheriff.

[4:23:21] Is there any difference between effectively between just going through this process and then just

[4:23:28] Like getting rid of the freeze for the sheriff. I guess I'm just struggling. I still am struggling to see the difference

[4:23:35] Well, I don't think the freeze currently is the same freeze that we had last fiscal year because it was a hard and

[4:23:44] No, right

[4:23:45] The sheriff's department has a certain amount of money.

[4:23:50] The sheriff's department.

[4:23:53] Go ahead, Commissioner.

[4:23:55] Thank you.

[4:23:58] I see what Commissioner Bain is saying is that look, if we lift the freeze on the sheriff's office,

[4:24:08] we're going to approve it, we know what it's going to cost.

[4:24:12] If you want a form to come before us, you want the sheriff to formally come before us, we're going to approve it.

[4:24:20] It's a first responder.

[4:24:22] Okay, it's a necessary position.

[4:24:26] Then why are we continuously talking about a freeze?

[4:24:32] What nobody has brought up, and I'll bring it up, is we want this form, we want this justification form.

[4:24:40] We all know that we need the first responders out there to protect and serve all of the first responders about over time how much over time because of the freeze has been spent in the sheriff's office because it's necessary to have them out.

[4:25:00] On the street, assisting, protecting, serving, taking care of all of these pertinent issues that we're talking about and we're so concerned about, rightfully so. So, over $350,000. It's in the backup. But we don't want to address the over time because there's a freeze. So, if there's a freeze, I'll just issue over time to my officers. And I'll get

[4:25:29] it done. So thank you, Sheriff, because you're making that command decision to get it done.

[4:25:37] But now you're coming before us to say, I want clarification because I don't want to have to

[4:25:42] make this command decision each and every week and month when I get a transfer request.

[4:25:49] The Sheriff will tell you that Commissioner Bain and I, we were confused and we asked

[4:25:55] Alona, the Director of HR, to please clarify, was here in Chambers, here in Tonapak.

[4:26:01] We can't possibly be seriously thinking about a freeze on the Sheriff's Office or the

[4:26:07] Fire Department, or EMS, and the response was, oh no, no freeze for them, but it wasn't in

[4:26:16] the backup, it wasn't clear, so there was once again confusion.

[4:26:23] We, we as, as not to pick on you, Susie, she said, we need to get our act together.

[4:26:32] We need to put all of the facts together when making these decisions over

[4:26:40] time, considerable

[4:26:41] amount of money and a freeze on, on a few deputies, a dispatcher.

[4:26:48] This is what he's asking.

[4:26:49] So, Sheriff, I'm going to wait to hear for the final decision from all of us, but what

[4:26:55] What I'm hearing, the message is, is that come before us, get those, get those justification

[4:27:01] forms ready, get them ready, back date them, present them, they're gonna be approved, okay?

[4:27:11] You want more deputies, you're gonna get more deputies.

[4:27:14] Get those forms ready, because I'm ready to sign off on them.

[4:27:19] Mr. Chair, I appreciate that.

[4:27:21] I just want to call to your attention and line one of my item that says regarding Claire

[4:27:28] verification on a scope and intent of the current hiring freeze.

[4:27:31] That's why I'm here.

[4:27:33] It was confusing.

[4:27:35] I couldn't get the same answer from two different people.

[4:27:38] Can I say quick, but I know you're on a lag here.

[4:27:41] Is Harry means in the room somewhere?

[4:27:44] Can we look around?

[4:27:45] Yes, he's here.

[4:27:46] Can he step up real quick and I can't listen?

[4:27:48] Well, I think he can answer this.

[4:27:49] I really do.

[4:27:50] Mr. Means, can you step up and do this very quickly?

[4:27:52] Just, I am just curious about this one question,

[4:27:54] because it will bother me. I'll never know the answer. I feel like I'm speaking like a different. I've never spoken a different language, but this is the closest that come.

[4:28:02] Do you have to spell his name?

[4:28:04] What do you mean?

[4:28:05] What do you mean?

[4:28:06] Interim HR director.

[4:28:07] So can you explain because you were a captain for a long time.

[4:28:11] I think you still are legally.

[4:28:13] What is the difference?

[4:28:15] If we don't have anything open right now, it's being held up and I thought there was.

[4:28:19] What is the difference effectively between just making a sheriff's office just fall out this wacky farm that we all look is I'm gonna

[4:28:25] I'm gonna vote for every single sheriff position that is being asked for I mean everyone knows this in town probably

[4:28:31] What is the difference between that and let's say I'll win but what is the difference in just making that form be filled out in

[4:28:38] Unfreezing all the difference so yeah, we're talking two different things

[4:28:43] The form gets filled up for every department

[4:28:45] We have not had a form come through or position come through since me taking over HR, but prior to me taking over HR, when I was at the sheriff's office, we would submit the form, it would go through the entire process, and it never came before the B.O.C.C.

[4:29:01] And that's been since the hiring freeze, which is not really, I think we're talking to different things and people are talking about adding more positions and just filling positions that have become vacated during this year.

[4:29:15] It doesn't get before us. Where does it go? We don't know where it went.

[4:29:19] It just gets approved.

[4:29:20] It used to be an administrative decision by the county manager.

[4:29:25] Yes, so it goes through HR, writes their numbers and finance says we have enough money.

[4:29:30] It goes to the county manager, county manager reviews all of that.

[4:29:32] It gets approved. It can be filled.

[4:29:34] Good, good.

[4:29:35] We have not.

[4:29:36] County manager, do you have a problem with going back to that or do you want it to go before us?

[4:29:41] Is that correct?

[4:29:42] Well, do we need to know how to pay for it, too?

[4:29:45] We need the cost and part of the issue has been,

[4:29:49] and that's part of what the next item is that we'll get to,

[4:29:53] is the justification forms have gotten very lax,

[4:29:57] not just with Sheriff's Department.

[4:29:59] I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[4:30:00] But all departments. So we're trying to get things back in line. So you guys know what you're making decisions on. And you guys are up to date in real time. What budget? Terry issues there are. It's not to prevent hiring or filling vacant positions in the sheriff's department. All it is is trying to make sure we know what we're doing. If we have an employee that leads that we have to pay out $200,000

[4:30:28] dollars in accruals, we need to try to realize that back somehow, and that's all it is,

[4:30:36] is to give us a time to calculate that out.

[4:30:41] Okay, can we try this method?

[4:30:44] Was the sheriff's office okay with us trying this method?

[4:30:48] And then, because right now there's nothing open, is that correct?

[4:30:50] Is there anything open that we want to fill with the sheriff's office?

[4:30:54] There is currently nothing open right now, that is correct.

[4:30:57] and to address something that County Manager mentioned.

[4:31:00] Yeah, I missed a position justification for him recently.

[4:31:04] Yeah, I did.

[4:31:05] So as it was brought to my attention,

[4:31:07] I think it was sent through that same day.

[4:31:12] But I'm not trying to beat you up, man, I really am not.

[4:31:14] I just want, because everyone seems really upset

[4:31:16] about this, it has nothing to do with you.

[4:31:18] I just, if everyone really wants this form

[4:31:19] and really wants to have this discussion,

[4:31:21] I'm going to vote yes and all your guys.

[4:31:23] And he's probably going to vote yes and all your guys.

[4:31:24] So maybe just do it their way

[4:31:26] so that we don't have this fight that seems to be non-stop.

[4:31:29] I'm doing it their way because I know that that's their way.

[4:31:32] Like I said, I miss it.

[4:31:33] How come it's their way? It's policy.

[4:31:36] Right. It's policy. That's all right.

[4:31:38] That's fine.

[4:31:39] I will say, Brett, I realize we have a meeting tomorrow on this one

[4:31:45] and right now we don't think we're quite seeing eye to eye on it

[4:31:49] but the decision will be made.

[4:31:52] But what if that one has to wait

[4:31:53] And a year and a half or two years for a arbitration.

[4:31:58] Do we continue to leave that position empty?

[4:32:01] We have to, we have to, because if an arbitration resulted in having to take that person back, we have to have a position for him to go into.

[4:32:11] Plus we have to pay for all the time they were not at work.

[4:32:15] So that money can't be spent.

[4:32:16] Yeah, that's one less person that we have on the street.

[4:32:21] I don't know, I mean how do you solve this problem in business you have to set the money

[4:32:26] aside?

[4:32:28] Yeah, that's the problem.

[4:32:30] Sure, if we can't allocate that money until this is settled, to pay somebody else.

[4:32:38] We could if we had that fund funded, well the old fund, I mean that money tree and we'll

[4:32:46] fund it tomorrow.

[4:32:47] right to check and we're trying it we're trying that that is just so you know

[4:32:52] to and the audience knows the what the what was adopted in this year's budget

[4:32:58] does start to put money into that fun like it should have been doing for years

[4:33:03] you know so we are definitely going to be in better shape hopefully by the end of

[4:33:09] the year and then if we can not have to tap into it too far you know hopefully it

[4:33:15] I'll just continue to grow to where it won't be a factor anymore, you know, when somebody

[4:33:20] retires or resigns,

[4:33:25] but should I actually close in remark thing?

[4:33:28] I wasn't impressionally at open positions.

[4:33:30] I would like to know if there are open positions within the Sheriff's office.

[4:33:33] I will do my best to make sure that I know and then go from there.

[4:33:36] So that's how I feel about this and I will, you know, let it be there.

[4:33:43] All right.

[4:33:48] Yeah.

[4:33:48] Look, can we finish this item?

[4:33:50] Let me take a break.

[4:33:51] I think we're clear or are we frozen or not frozen you don't have any open positions if I have if I have a position open tomorrow.

[4:34:02] That's something totally different.

[4:34:04] Then turn an agenda item in and get it on the next available agenda.

[4:34:08] I'm not going to get stopped. Turn over the little form, whatever it is.

[4:34:12] Okay, that's what I was asking for is clarification.

[4:34:16] We get it. It was confusing. You're not wrong. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right, so let's take ten. Please

[4:35:03] Is that a flood camera? Yeah, just set it up while we're on break. Just kidding. Just kidding.

[4:35:25] All right, guys, let's get to number 20, please.

[4:35:33] Item 20 presentation by Paul Lehmist regarding water and property management at the Ashtonettos Wildlife Refuge five-minute time limit, and I want to bring to your attention. The video is over six minutes. I already talked to Paul. We're good.

[4:35:49] Okay, wait five minutes.

[4:35:51] John, we'll start your timer whenever you're ready.

[4:35:53] Yes, first thing I wanted to point out,

[4:35:55] and I'm not going to be able to use this mic when I have to.

[4:35:59] Do I have to be on?

[4:36:01] I think I need a wireless one.

[4:36:03] Let me see if I can turn on this one.

[4:36:04] Can I swing this one a little bit?

[4:36:07] Okay, guys, so this is the important thing.

[4:36:09] This is the proposed concept right now

[4:36:11] for the national conservation area.

[4:36:14] This is the mapping.

[4:36:15] And they're claiming that this could protect our lands.

[4:36:18] But I want you to look at the distinct factor.

[4:36:21] You see this bottom line right here, it's not straight, it's wavy, it's curvy.

[4:36:26] That's a water line.

[4:36:27] That's also one of our main drainage lines in our hydrological mapping.

[4:36:32] If you look at the wrong one, yes, ma'am.

[4:36:35] The chair is being asked by Mr. DeBoral.

[4:36:38] Excuse me, chair, manager.

[4:36:40] Do we have copies of this presentation up here on Donabelle?

[4:36:43] I have emailed copies to all your emails, I believe.

[4:36:47] if not, I can get you one right away, sir.

[4:36:49] We should go with the presentation that you have.

[4:36:52] And can I give you the presentation,

[4:36:53] and then give back up to you?

[4:36:56] No, the presentation you have on your laptop.

[4:36:58] Yes, yes, yes, I can.

[4:36:59] OK, one last quick piece of the puzzle,

[4:37:02] and then I'll cut right off.

[4:37:04] Because this is the main water line

[4:37:06] into Perump and Johnny Nevada.

[4:37:08] So what they're trying to do is kind of encompass the land

[4:37:11] over even your guys in Perump and Amargosa's water line and land.

[4:37:15] Now, well, there's applications right now for just a proposal.

[4:37:20] The way it was written was for proposal.

[4:37:23] But they started acting after the proposal.

[4:37:26] So we get into that.

[4:37:27] I got to go.

[4:37:27] Okay.

[4:37:27] Presentation guys.

[4:37:28] Thank you very much.

[4:37:29] Please excuse me.

[4:37:32] Thank you, Mr. Limus.

[4:37:34] Oh, he's got fire.

[4:37:35] Here's where they got the type of line that they're doing here.

[4:37:38] No, we have four.

[4:37:39] It's up.

[4:37:44] These are the water lines right here in Ashmetos

[4:37:46] where they're draining crystal reservoir now.

[4:37:48] Now they're pumping it over the top and into and out into the valley.

[4:37:52] It's going into our horseshoe right now, which has left a lot of the fish and frogs and turtles dying on the ground as they dump most solos.

[4:38:00] They've washed it out into their mouth, and locked it right now, not safe, not secure, and they're going to be there for even more than two years.

[4:38:08] And several conservancies that are all working together now that the Conservancy Fund has hit for over 400 million.

[4:38:15] There's been a lot of these conservancies all trying to group up and kind of come after some of the area where our protected lands are.

[4:38:22] Right now, our area of our private properties, which we have a subdivision called little Nevada subdivision, there's over 243 residential lots in there.

[4:38:30] None of those owners were notified that they wanted to come in and put their encountering map over our private properties.

[4:38:37] I believe there's also something like 800 mining claims throughout that area.

[4:38:41] None of those people have been notified yet.

[4:38:42] So we're here today trying to just make you aware of what's going on.

[4:38:47] And we're asking that you kind of go hopefully against the conservancy.

[4:38:50] I also have a, this is a Amargosa Conservancy that is applying right now.

[4:38:57] But the Ceecent Assist Letter that I've kind of wanted the commissioners to consider signing has

[4:39:04] Ceecent Assist to all different conservancies and any new ones that step up with the same plan

[4:39:10] to try and take our private properties and land.

[4:39:13] So this would make them financially responsible.

[4:39:15] Give us an instrument to record on our deeds, to protect our properties.

[4:39:19] And so all we're trying to do is buy some time right now, since we found out that this

[4:39:23] emergency is going on, whatever's in that, the scientific doctors showed up on Saturday.

[4:39:28] There's definitely dust and contaminants in there.

[4:39:31] Since the water is out, that's went airborne.

[4:39:34] So a lot of the breathing things that we've been experiencing over the last year,

[4:39:37] is could be and associated with this project that they're doing to kind of dismantle our

[4:39:43] Ash Meadows.

[4:39:44] They started with mud reservoir, knocked that down, rerouted Peterson, and cut it off

[4:39:49] through the Fuentes property.

[4:39:51] And then this is our old reservoir here, this is what it used to look like, how beautiful

[4:39:54] it was.

[4:39:55] And then they're purposely draining it as the thing.

[4:39:57] and it's

[4:40:00] All live and the fish. And then as they dump it each time over and over, it just floods out into the desert and you're left seeing the dead fish on the ground, which will be here in a little bit. So we've documented all of this. We also have biologists. We have a full scientific truck that came out. They did air sniffer. They did soil samples. They did a radiation testing with a Geiger counter, but the main thing associated with this is the waters vested in the

[4:40:29] people under NRS 533 and it says in there that no NCA or government

[4:40:35] should have any ownership of that water ever. That's the law.

[4:40:39] The thing that's important for staff today to consider is the violations that

[4:40:44] were made in the way this project has been submitted so far. It was only a

[4:40:48] presentation, permission to do a presentation and now we're looking at

[4:40:52] violation 241021 which is public scoping. The public scoping happened on

[4:40:58] June 11th. And this was passed by the Town Board March 26th. So they passed it to only do the

[4:41:06] presentation, but then move forward to ask the Board of County Commissioners to sign

[4:41:10] to approve the concept and the proposal for it on May 5th. So then Jabor back that out on May 19th

[4:41:19] and said, no, we're not going to move forward with this letter. So they wanted to come to you and ask

[4:41:24] It's for a letter to basically have an excuse to come after our properties and move forward without the presentation.

[4:41:30] I don't know why they're here to even talk against us because we haven't even given them permission yet to do the presentation.

[4:41:35] The public scoping had six people against it and only three for it.

[4:41:40] So I think that the people have already spoken at that point and said that they do not want the national conservation area.

[4:41:46] We haven't notified any of those homeowners.

[4:41:49] And it's a very risky situation to put them all at risk with eminent domain or

[4:41:55] possible adverse possession.

[4:41:56] Our job as county officials is to protect adverse possession claims for our people.

[4:42:02] So 241-010 and 241-036 is what this board would be violating if we did not consider just voiding it.

[4:42:12] Because 241 actually says it's voided already by I'm doing the scoping backwards.

[4:42:16] Thank you very much.

[4:42:18] thank you. Okay.

[4:42:23] Now back to where we were 13, please.

[4:42:30] Hey, hey, Paul, can you email me

[4:42:34] the video please? It's like I'm watching the whole thing. Go ahead.

[4:42:45] Okay. Thank you. 13, please.

[4:42:50] Item 13 for possible action discussion and deliberation to adopt amended adopt or reject

[4:42:57] I'm going to select night County Resolution number 2026-16.

[4:43:01] Resolution adopting the position evaluation policy.

[4:43:06] Okay, thank you for that. Who's speaking on this one?

[4:43:10] Mr. Chair, this is Lorina.

[4:43:12] Hi, Lorina.

[4:43:13] Hello. This item is already partially in place.

[4:43:19] Over the years, the board has approved the position justification form.

[4:43:26] they've we've gone back and forth and it all is heavily contingent on our budget on whether or not the

[4:43:34] approvals go through county manager just as director means mentioned earlier in an earlier item

[4:43:39] or they come back to the board as the county manager identified so that way the board

[4:43:47] is aware of our financials when it comes to these positions so this is just to

[4:43:55] would add a couple more pieces to that justification.

[4:44:00] Okay,

[4:44:04] I'm sure we have anything for.

[4:44:05] What are the couple more pieces, please?

[4:44:09] In the policy itself, so on page.

[4:44:16] Well, page one of the actual policy, but it's page six of your actual item.

[4:44:23] There's a section 1.3 called required documentation.

[4:44:27] and this is really focused on new positions that will come before the board,

[4:44:34] but there can be data that could be requested of our department heads when they're requesting reclassifications, for example.

[4:44:47] Okay. All right. Let's see if we have any public comment on this item. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[4:44:55] Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spoiler your name.

[4:45:00] Item.

[4:45:09] That's good.

[4:45:16] You're. I just want to point out the elephant in the room. You know the reduction side of. You're confident you know, the hardest thing to do is get an administrative ego to freeze. Good luck with it.

[4:45:38] Tammy, do you want to, are you ready?

[4:45:40] Oh, you're good.

[4:45:43] Tammy Pittman, PIT, M-A-N, as a 30, 40, I don't know how many years now, H-R person,

[4:45:54] great addition, I think it should be used for every position that's current in place

[4:46:00] as well as new positions so that you all can make the best decisions.

[4:46:04] Thank you.

[4:46:05] Thank you, Sam.

[4:46:05] Anybody on the phone, please?

[4:46:07] Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[4:46:14] Tim Bohen and B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N. Cost justification is always a requirement when we're talking

[4:46:23] about finance.

[4:46:26] It's important. The value that we gain from that is that the carbon

[4:46:31] Eds and leaders are doing cost benefits, cost of justification, and while they're doing that,

[4:46:40] looking for efficiency. Now that often gets overlooked in many, many certain. But the efficiency

[4:46:47] is health effectiveness.

[4:46:51] Don't chop it so much where you can get the job done, but the addition

[4:46:54] what you do, the wise and what you do, and wisely, then there are money wisely. You get a summary

[4:47:02] come on down in front please.

[4:47:10] Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON. And if I'm out mistaken

[4:47:15] as the HR director that is here. If we could pull up transparent Nevada so we

[4:47:22] could see the salaries that are paid out and I think that we are all owed a

[4:47:29] explanation of why those salaries are paid out and to show the work that has

[4:47:35] been done by any of them. We have, I don't know how many people in B&G that there's nothing

[4:47:41] to show for any employee that's done work. There's no roads fix, there's nothing. There's

[4:47:47] nothing to show for it. And since we're talking about salaries, there needs to be somebody

[4:47:55] that's looking into this and not just throwing money out and paying administrative assistance

[4:48:03] $160,000 a year.

[4:48:06] And no, that's not the basis with their benefits package,

[4:48:09] but regardless, that's what it is.

[4:48:11] It's showing that we have so many people working

[4:48:13] for the animal control.

[4:48:14] And whether it's with the kennels or whatever,

[4:48:16] it's still all combined.

[4:48:18] But yet, we have two people, two office,

[4:48:22] animal control officers, and if you have one here,

[4:48:25] and then one in Armagosa or whatever,

[4:48:28] I would love to be able to pull that up

[4:48:31] And for everybody for somebody that explained to us what the salaries are being paid for and I think that we're owed that

[4:48:38] Instead of continuously asking us to get get money cut back those salaries Mr. Wagner and

[4:48:44] Don't don't sit there and shake your head and laugh at me, sir

[4:48:47] This is this is fact. This is your public comment. Why don't you use it? I am I

[4:48:53] am

[4:48:55] But you keep dodging that and keep laughing at me when I bring it up

[4:49:05] way. Just just so we're clear on this. There's been wage studies for Nye County

[4:49:11] comparing them with the other 16 counties in Nevada and you'd be amazed. Do

[4:49:17] some research on that. I'm not talking and like that. We can't do that. Go ahead

[4:49:21] Linda. I can talk after. I'll talk to you after.

[4:49:27] Thank you. Linda Clark.

[4:49:39] Okay

[4:49:39] You said Linda Clark.

[4:49:41] C-L-A-R-K.

[4:49:43] Okay.

[4:49:44] It's so easy to spell.

[4:49:46] Okay.

[4:49:52] A fear.

[4:49:55] That we're just going nowhere.

[4:49:59] And where we're going.

[4:50:00] There's nowhere that no one wants to go. Does that make sense? We don't want to go where you're going. That's the best way to discover it. I feel like this county has been abused, overlooked, and put into a position where, well, I've already said this. We don't matter. And you don't really listen to us. And everything you do is for what you want to do. And we're sitting here,

[4:50:29] We're twiddling our thumbs thinking, why do we deserve this?

[4:50:33] We pay our taxes, we're good, we're good people, right?

[4:50:37] Yeah, we're good people.

[4:50:41] We deserve better than what we're getting, I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

[4:50:47] What Deborah?

[4:50:49] Does this have anything to do with the subject that we're talking about, this resolution?

[4:50:53] About your what?

[4:50:54] The resolution, the agenda.

[4:50:55] Item 13.

[4:50:58] I thought you finished that with her.

[4:51:01] No, we're still on resolution item number third.

[4:51:03] Okay, what was it again because I ran into the bathroom and I didn't get that last part.

[4:51:11] Remind me, I can speak on it.

[4:51:14] I'll be happy to speak on it.

[4:51:17] Is the time up?

[4:51:18] No.

[4:51:19] Vice Chair, he's told held it.

[4:51:21] This is the adoption of the resolution 2026-16.

[4:51:25] And what was the resolution for?

[4:51:26] The position of valuation policy.

[4:51:31] Division resolution.

[4:51:33] Position evaluation policy for the people that work here?

[4:51:37] Yes.

[4:51:38] Okay, yeah, we probably need that.

[4:51:42] Badly.

[4:51:46] Sam, do you have any more on the calling thing?

[4:51:50] No chair.

[4:51:52] We're going to close public comment.

[4:51:55] Mr.

[4:51:59] Chair, I'd like to make a motion to adopt Resolution No. 2026-16.

[4:52:03] 7.

[4:52:03] Motion second, all those in favor.

[4:52:05] Aye.

[4:52:06] Aye.

[4:52:07] 5-0.

[4:52:08] Thank you, 14, please.

[4:52:12] And I'm 14 for possible action, discussion and deliberation to A,

[4:52:17] approve or reject the addition of one part-time no benefits fleet driver, and

[4:52:21] B, fund from 101, a one general fund.

[4:52:25] All right, and I will be speaking to this.

[4:52:27] That's a perfect public comment, Sam, we have anybody on the phone, please?

[4:52:30] I'm sorry, Steven.

[4:52:33] No chair.

[4:52:34] Come on up.

[4:52:36] Steven Pittman, PIT, M-A-N, on the agenda item, request form, there's slight confusion.

[4:52:42] For me, it says approve or reject addition of one part time, no benefit sleep driver.

[4:52:48] In the description, it says, a salary and then benefits.

[4:52:53] I will explain that.

[4:52:55] Okay.

[4:52:56] Thank you.

[4:52:56] Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone please.

[4:52:59] No, chair.

[4:53:00] Come on up, Beth.

[4:53:02] I

[4:53:05] always have to pull this down.

[4:53:08] Beth Borersavitch, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

[4:53:12] First of all, I think that when it gets this time of the day,

[4:53:15] we should start putting some lavender through the air,

[4:53:18] something else, you know, to calm a citrus, you know,

[4:53:21] just that would be really good.

[4:53:23] Well, we could drink, but that, you know.

[4:53:25] Okay, so here's what I think you should do, fund 101-01.

[4:53:35] You should not touch that for the next six months, period.

[4:53:43] The part-time fleet driver, what department is he for, or is he for all of, you know,

[4:53:51] Nye County, and wherever he's coming from, that is who should pay.

[4:53:57] If it's different departments, then it should be each department and not 10101.

[4:54:05] 10101 should be off limits unless there's an absolutely horrendous emergency.

[4:54:12] That's what I've got to say.

[4:54:13] Thanks.

[4:54:14] Thank you, Sam.

[4:54:15] Anybody on the phone, please.

[4:54:18] Yes, chair.

[4:54:19] The caller is unmuted.

[4:54:20] Please speak in his phone.

[4:54:21] Your name for the record.

[4:54:21] Well,

[4:54:25] commissioners, Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-T-I-A, and I'm just kind of curious the way you're hiding this language and the way you shuffle the budget around with the accounts.

[4:54:36] I think that if the collective bargaining agreement that there are another half of it's missing

[4:54:43] when it comes to reclassifying salary wages the part time and much of the apartment

[4:54:49] is just where that driver to go up and back and forth to Tonipal.

[4:54:52] Let's just close Tonipal down and then we say 2.4 million and reoccurring costs.

[4:54:58] Turn the...

[4:55:00] I have to seek down here for where it belongs. It's crazy. Car County don't have their seat out these mosquitoes. It's a saving money. Okay, it's transparency. You're hiding the agenda item by not even articulate what it's for. Thank you. Thank you for 100,000 years. That's what that gets you

[4:55:23] done.

[4:55:27] Angelina Jackson, J.O.C. Cassad. It's not very clear what this fleet driver is needing.

[4:55:35] it for and it's probably in the description but unfortunately my phone died so I don't

[4:55:42] understand it probably more helpful that everybody that would print it out as well as the

[4:55:47] agenda. Could you let us know what the fleet driver is for?

[4:55:54] I will give okay sorry sorry I'm sorry no you're well it's hard to comment on something

[4:56:00] I know.

[4:56:03] So it's kind of backwards there.

[4:56:04] So can we come back up after we're more informed?

[4:56:07] Probably not.

[4:56:08] I think since our minutes have already been cut down to two minutes

[4:56:10] and there's only like 20 of us here.

[4:56:12] So Clark has no comment on any item other than three minutes in the beginning

[4:56:16] and three minutes at the end.

[4:56:18] Period.

[4:56:20] My question is pertaining to this particular agenda

[4:56:22] that you guys have not informed us of

[4:56:24] and you're going to tell us after the fact,

[4:56:25] after we've already been up from public comment.

[4:56:27] So how are we supposed to make an informative comment

[4:56:29] could comment without having all the information.

[4:56:37] I'm trying not to interrupt her.

[4:56:39] Well, I'm pausing for an answer.

[4:56:41] Well, your time is running.

[4:56:44] Well, I like the way you work that.

[4:56:46] You're, you're, you're good.

[4:56:49] Well, thank you.

[4:56:50] Come on up, Susie.

[4:56:54] OK, so I'll ask the question.

[4:56:57] I'll make the comment.

[4:57:00] I have the backup.

[4:57:01] I read the part-time person for Fleet Driver and I read the section that talks about benefits and other total costs which Brett has already interrupted and said he will explain.

[4:57:17] Well, there's no explanation as to what this person is, what department they're coming from, what their job is, there's no backup for it.

[4:57:27] So we're all without information, you're out without it, too, unless you already know

[4:57:35] what it is.

[4:57:36] But once again, the information that's put together for us to determine and evaluate

[4:57:45] as the public during these meetings, or at any other time, if we choose to email you or

[4:57:51] call you, isn't there.

[4:57:54] So please answer the question after our public comments so that we could know that in the future it would be nice to know it before the public comments.

[4:58:03] So we have something valid to say. Thank you.

[4:58:06] Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please.

[4:58:11] Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[4:58:15] All

[4:58:23] right. We're going to close public. Oh wait. Do you have any more?

[4:58:26] And deal. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[4:58:32] Yeah, it's a good thing you didn't hang up there because otherwise I thought I was going

[4:58:36] to have to write another one on the list.

[4:58:39] Bruce Johnson, J.O.A., S.O.N., you know, these last two speakers, you're raising a very

[4:58:45] valid question to you guys.

[4:58:47] And this question has been raised to you guys in the past.

[4:58:50] It seems to be the way that you guys set up doing your business here.

[4:58:55] And I don't really think that's acceptable to the people.

[4:58:58] So it's more to the benefit of you guys and not to the benefit of the people.

[4:59:05] And so I think we have a conflict of interest here.

[4:59:09] So I'm going to nicely ask you guys or instruct you actually, and I'll follow this up

[4:59:14] by the notice.

[4:59:15] Let's make this correct and get in the process, please.

[4:59:18] Thank you.

[4:59:20] Sam, do you have anybody else that would like to instruct me?

[4:59:23] Mayor Dill.

[4:59:24] No chair.

[4:59:25] Closing public comment.

[4:59:27] Go ahead, manager.

[4:59:29] I just do some explaining.

[4:59:33] So what we've discovered since we had the fleet driver retire, he was funded entirely

[4:59:40] out of buildings and grounds.

[4:59:42] It was a service to many different departments.

[4:59:46] One of the big issues I was noticed is there is some time sensitive documents that need to

[4:59:53] be brought back and forth for the clerks office and then for the justice.

[5:00:00] Any outline areas? There is other documents that, you know, other departments utilize. But as far as the benefits, because I asked the same question, because actually Commissioner Koneck asked me, because when I'd gotten the estimate from HR, it was just a whole number of 25,123. But we do still have to pay sole security. We have to pay workers comp. We have to pay.

[5:00:29] that those types of costs that are mandated, and that's what that $3,314 is.

[5:00:37] So the salary is $20.99, $21.808, and $61.00, and then you add those.

[5:00:46] Other costs, that's where we come up with the $25.123.

[5:00:50] And what I am proposing is that this gets borne by the departments that utilize this service.

[5:00:58] So it isn't just a direct cost to one single department,

[5:01:04] like it was with buildings and grounds.

[5:01:06] We were trying to help their budget.

[5:01:11] The other part of it is we did used to have the school district

[5:01:16] that was involved in it.

[5:01:17] That is no longer going to be the case.

[5:01:19] Well, we're proposing as a two-day-a-week fleet service

[5:01:23] Tuesdays and Thursdays.

[5:01:25] They are going to use utilize a fleet vehicle out of our pool to check out for the day and check back in each of those two days.

[5:01:35] We're not going to have to buy a new vehicle.

[5:01:37] We're not going to have to be driving a truck back and forth that used to get like nine or 13 miles to the gallon.

[5:01:44] We'll be driving something that will get 35 miles to the gallon.

[5:01:47] We're not going to be hauling cars or that kind of stuff, that'll be handled by that

[5:01:53] department themselves, but we will be able to take all the parts, you know, stuff

[5:01:59] that will fit in a regular passenger car.

[5:02:01] So again, to alleviate and spread this out, a lot of people I heard from the comments,

[5:02:07] they don't realize every single department with the exception of special revenue departments

[5:02:12] like road department are all paid out of the general fund.

[5:02:16] So including buildings and grounds, so it's not that we're changing a funding source, but instead of having it all hit one department, we're looking at hitting, you know, the five or six different departments with like a five, four to $5,000 cost for this service.

[5:02:36] And

[5:02:40] it's known that it is a vital service for mainly for the courts and the DA's office utilizes it a lot because, again, they have time sensitive documents that have to be up when courts in session.

[5:02:58] Okay. Commissioner Scott, anything?

[5:02:59] Thank you.

[5:03:02] Thank you.

[5:03:03] Thank you.

[5:03:05] Thank you.

[5:03:06] Thank you.

[5:03:06] Manager to help clarify.

[5:03:09] Please.

[5:03:10] We have Justice Court in Beatty.

[5:03:12] So would this include a stop in Beatty for their mail or deliveries?

[5:03:18] Absolutely.

[5:03:19] It's going to be one trip up and one trip back a day.

[5:03:23] And it'll have scheduled stops, you know, which will include a few here in Burrump.

[5:03:29] and then obviously, Betty, and then Tonapa.

[5:03:35] Okay, so wherever there's a stop, they will be required to incur some of the costs.

[5:03:43] Correct.

[5:03:45] Okay, thank you.

[5:03:48] Thank you, Commissioner.

[5:03:49] Okay.

[5:03:51] I'm going to make a motion to approve the addition of one part time, the benefits fleet driver,

[5:03:59] and fund from, how do you want to work that?

[5:04:06] It'll be fund from 101 with the exception

[5:04:10] of the road department.

[5:04:12] We will be able to charge some to the road department

[5:04:16] for the equipment shops for anything we run for them.

[5:04:21] And I can't remember what one number was.

[5:04:23] Is it going to want to come out there?

[5:04:25] How are you going to split it up?

[5:04:27] It's going to get added to the departmental budget

[5:04:30] budget for their service and supplies wherever it would fall.

[5:04:35] Okay, so add that to the funding.

[5:04:37] Yeah, it'll be split and I can tell you the list of the departments.

[5:04:41] I apologize I did bring that in here, but if you want to specify which departments we can do that.

[5:04:48] We'll do it.

[5:04:50] Yes.

[5:04:51] Second.

[5:04:52] Two board seconds.

[5:04:53] We have a motion and two seconds.

[5:04:54] All those in favor.

[5:04:56] Aye.

[5:04:57] Aye.

[5:04:58] And of course, I...

[5:05:07] All right, we're going to open them all together. 15, 16, 17, 18. All right, item 15, report by Zena regarding the budget status for the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2026. For night county and all sub entities pursuant to NRS 354.4.5.

[5:05:31] and I'm 16 for possible action, discussion, deliberation, and or direction to staff about the fiscal year 2026 financial update direct staff on any related financial item to enhance financial transparency and being fiscal stewards with the use of the tax dollars.

[5:05:50] Item 17 for possible action discussion and deliberation and or direction to staff about

[5:05:56] the fiscal year 2027 financial update direct staff on any related financial item to enhance

[5:06:03] financial transparency and being fiscal stewards with the use of tax dollars in item 18 for

[5:06:10] possible action discussion deliberation and direction to staff on cost saving measures to

[5:06:16] the required department had approval on overtime.

[5:06:20] Okay, hello Zina.

[5:06:23] Good afternoon commissioners.

[5:06:25] So I'm going to talk about fiscal 26 first and then I'll go in, I'm sorry.

[5:06:31] So 15, 16 and 18.

[5:06:35] Those are the three that I will speak to first.

[5:06:40] Item 15 is a requirement for NRS for us to report every

[5:06:46] the results, the budget and the actual, so the results that we have for the fourth quarter includes the full year.

[5:06:56] Up to the point where we've closed accounts payable, we still need to do our year-end accruals, we still need to do account analysis.

[5:07:06] We need to look at our balance sheet to see that our assets and liabilities have been reconciled.

[5:07:13] and then also to do a revenue and expenditure analysis to compare current year to prior year to look for appropriateness.

[5:07:23] So a couple of things I'd like to point out.

[5:07:28] As of the time of this report, we did not have the CTAX payment for June and at this point our revenues are better than budget.

[5:07:39] So we're not losing money, we're not in the deficit.

[5:07:46] Right now, the way that it looks, we are, but we will be at the end of the year.

[5:07:53] It looks very promising.

[5:07:55] I am not going to say that until the audit report is done and I have the audit report in my hands.

[5:08:01] Because the auditor can come up with any type of adjustment that is unexpected.

[5:08:08] But the way it looks, it's very promising, so that takes care of item 15.

[5:08:16] And at the back, the very last page of item 15 is a report of unusual items so that as

[5:08:29] reference to talk about revenues and expenditures, we've also have recognized an increase in tax

[5:08:38] penalties. And we deserve a big shout out to the assessor and the Treasury Department

[5:08:45] for getting on the phone and making calls for delinquent taxes.

[5:08:54] So that takes care of

[5:08:57] item 15.

[5:09:06] I'd like to talk a few items on item 16. Item 16 is basically the financial update.

[5:09:13] So because we implemented cost-saving measures and we restricted our spending for the past

[5:09:25] four months since the end of May, our revenues excluding our last month, we're still trying

[5:09:35] to get, we're still have the CTACs and some other adjustments, our revenues are coming in

[5:09:42] at $57 million, and our expenditures are coming in at almost $59 million.

[5:09:50] So the deficit right now sits at $1.7 million, but that is before the final...

[5:10:00] C-tax, which typically is historically has been around one and a half to $2 million. What was the deficit when we started these costs saving efforts? So back in April, we were forecasting a deficit of $7.5 million.

[5:10:23] So it's because of the cost saving measures. And also the majority part is because of the

[5:10:29] the better than budget revenues, the revenues really saved us.

[5:10:41] So the last piece of items of fiscal 26, actually let me open it up for questions.

[5:10:49] If anybody has questions on the financials, and then I'll talk about the one cost-saving measure that I have, which is on over time.

[5:11:00] Mr. Jebore or Bain, do you guys have anything for Zina right now?

[5:11:06] Chair, I'm waiting for overtime.

[5:11:07] I'm sure thank you.

[5:11:08] Gotcha.

[5:11:13] Okay, so then I'll talk about overtime.

[5:11:16] So back in the end of May, board of county commissioners, you gave direction that all overtime had to be pre-approved or actually had to be approved by department heads.

[5:11:31] So we took a look at overtime for the month of June and just so you know we're going

[5:11:40] to be coming back every couple of months to be talking about the improvements that are

[5:11:44] being done on overtime.

[5:11:48] As you know or may not know, maybe not as clear, overtime was not a budgeted item in our

[5:11:56] fiscal 27 budget. So we took a look at the policy and the HR policy has a couple of

[5:12:08] components to it. So people can earn comp time as long as it's within there, unless there

[5:12:15] is a difference in the collective bargaining agreement. The policy requires authorization

[5:12:24] in advance before the employee can work over time.

[5:12:29] There is an exception that firefighters,

[5:12:34] their overtime is built into their collective bargaining agreements.

[5:12:39] So we don't have much say in that overtime.

[5:12:43] It's part of their schedule.

[5:12:47] So we sent out an email in the beginning of August asking

[5:12:53] asking department heads to provide the support for their overtime, the documented support approving it.

[5:13:00] And as you can see on the back up, we have 12 departments that had overtime in the month of June.

[5:13:13] Of the 12 departments, most of them complied with the policy and

[5:13:20] the direction from the commissioners to approve overtime.

[5:13:25] We have a few departments that issued a blanket overtime memo to the finance department

[5:13:34] and that blanket overtime memo was dated after the overtime was paid.

[5:13:43] So I met with HR payroll and to come up with suggestions on how we can tighten that area.

[5:13:56] And then since the policy related only to the county side, we do have one department

[5:14:06] that actually charges both the county and the town and that's animal services.

[5:14:13] So in your backup, I include the town of Perump so that you can see the total cost of animal services over time.

[5:14:23] So now, if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

[5:14:28] Mr. Agibore.

[5:14:30] Thank you, Chair.

[5:14:31] Thank you, Zena, for that.

[5:14:38] As one of the policies that you mentioned,

[5:14:41] And

[5:14:44] that employees must receive approval in advance is not conducive to the

[5:14:57] last hour.

[5:15:00] Hours or minutes of people's shifts, especially first responders, for example. I'm not being the clerks, not being the clerks attorney. We have that position already filled. He's actually here and talking about today.

[5:15:20] But I would assume that the overtime for June under the clerks category had to do specifically with the primary election.

[5:15:29] I

[5:15:35] know that I said at the last meeting that this came up is for as cost saving measures that that department heads were required to approve or were required to approve all over time.

[5:15:52] And I believe that's happened in looking at the chart, there's 11 of what I counted,

[5:15:58] 11 departments of what I counted.

[5:16:01] And the biggest offender of over time, and not in a negative way, is the sheriff's office.

[5:16:10] But that's historic, that's a historic number and an activity.

[5:16:16] But I would ask the commissioners to consider.

[5:16:20] that at this time to continue the momentum of approved overtime is that there's no overtime,

[5:16:31] whatsoever, and if there's any overtime incurred, a type of justification form with an explanation

[5:16:42] must accompany the approved payroll for any and all pay periods. Not just having the department had

[5:16:51] approve the overtime because they weren't even there, for example, but they were told

[5:16:58] that, oh, I had to do overtime, okay, it's approved. They say it, they log it, it has

[5:17:06] to be paid.

[5:17:09] I believe there should be a justification type form, as I mentioned, with a full explanation

[5:17:16] of why they're incurring over time and that's submitted to payroll. That's

[5:17:22] submitted to HR and that's under review by the HR director and also the

[5:17:26] county manager and

[5:17:32] I'm certain that there will be times that those

[5:17:36] justification forms will be challenged and that will eliminate some most

[5:17:46] over time in the future.

[5:17:52] So again I'd ask the commissioners to please

[5:17:54] Please consider that under this number 18 agenda, his item, under overtime, please.

[5:18:01] I'll turn it back over to you, Chair.

[5:18:03] Thank you, sir.

[5:18:04] So that would be in the direction of the staff to include Mr. Gibor's direction.

[5:18:14] Correct?

[5:18:14] Go ahead, Zena.

[5:18:15] Sorry.

[5:18:20] Are we okay to talk about fiscal 2020?

[5:18:24] Sorry, I was chairing my eye.

[5:18:25] Go ahead.

[5:18:25] But my question is, I don't want to put pressure on the town, but is it a way to make

[5:18:32] the town do the same thing, just for consistency for over time?

[5:18:36] I think it should be everybody.

[5:18:39] I think that's my question.

[5:18:40] Is it okay?

[5:18:41] I would agree with that commissioner, because we do have, for instance, our buildings and

[5:18:48] grounds that we're looking at that as considerable over time, and we're trying to evaluate if

[5:18:56] If it's a scheduling issue or what it is, but I definitely would agree with that.

[5:19:03] I don't know how do we make that happen to vote on it or can we just do it right now?

[5:19:07] It would go in the direction, right?

[5:19:10] The direction, the staff, direction, directions noted.

[5:19:15] We including first responders and all of that, man, I'm not going to tell a fire of guidance

[5:19:22] out in the middle of a house fired up.

[5:19:24] You got to go.

[5:19:24] So that is, so fire is collective bargaining agreement, their schedule, which we have chief here, he can talk to the schedule, it's automatically at part of their schedule, they work two days on, one day off.

[5:19:47] So it's built into their weekly, they're by weekly pay.

[5:19:53] Okay.

[5:19:54] Okay.

[5:19:55] What else you got for us?

[5:19:59] That was it.

[5:20:00] I have a quick question. Sorry. Oh, yeah, commissioner. Just really quick. And this might be, I'd get back to me thing. I'm looking at the sheriff's numbers. And I think this is what commissioner's report is kind of talking about. And I'm not trying to open up a wound here or another bad thing. But $33,000, that's dollars in over time. Or is that $33,000? That is $13,000. Yes. And if we're doing that a month, that's, that'd be like $300,000. That's approximately two deputies. I mean, is it? I like to adjust here.

[5:20:30] the finance director's opinion of this because otherwise it's going to turn political.

[5:20:34] Why not just like maybe swap that out for like one full-time deputy?

[5:20:39] Is there a fiscal reason why you don't want to do that?

[5:20:42] I believe you have to look at their schedule and that would be a question for the sheriff

[5:20:46] or for the finance manager to talk about how they schedule their staff.

[5:20:52] Okay.

[5:20:52] So the concern is that it's a tricky, if we don't have a manager that can execute that then

[5:20:58] and it would all fall apart and we'd end up spending more money.

[5:21:00] And that's basically, is that correct?

[5:21:01] It's just a management problem or deal with it.

[5:21:06] Well, it'd be nice to wave a magic wand and say,

[5:21:08] hey, let's just hire one, two guys in 130,000,

[5:21:12] instead of 330,000.

[5:21:13] But the problem is that if we don't manage

[5:21:15] those two new guys, or gals or whatever correctly,

[5:21:18] then we might be doing the two, and then in addition

[5:21:21] the overtime, if it's not managed correctly.

[5:21:24] Is that a good kind of explanation of this?

[5:21:28] In general terms, I would agree with you, Commissioner.

[5:21:35] So in the policy, it does talk about if the department has an overtime policy.

[5:21:42] So I did inquire about that, and I still, I did that this morning.

[5:21:48] So I haven't had a chance to look at my email or to follow up on that.

[5:21:52] That.

[5:21:54] Commissioner Bain-May, I mentioned something.

[5:21:57] Excuse me.

[5:21:58] I'm not controlled.

[5:21:58] Thank you.

[5:21:59] So, I understand mathematically what you're saying.

[5:22:04] But we're not talking about just two deputies in Perump.

[5:22:08] We're talking over time for the Sheriff's Office throughout the county.

[5:22:11] And so, to hire, to get rid of the 31,000 in overtime on paper, we hire two deputies there

[5:22:19] in Perump but they're incurring over time in Ram Mountain or here in Tonapa or or or and those

[5:22:24] could be dispatchers. Yes. It's not a financial problem. If we could just have a bunch of people

[5:22:30] making widgets in one room then it would make sense to just hire two people but it's it becomes

[5:22:35] a complicated management problem. Yes. And that's where we're at. So we need to just figure out

[5:22:41] and maybe at some point we can get from the sheriff's office any kind of any kind of like way to maybe

[5:22:47] We fixed that, probably.

[5:22:48] Here's what I suggest.

[5:22:49] And this is what a normal company would do.

[5:22:50] I need to inject that to the discussion about normalcy or a company.

[5:22:54] But a normal company would say, hey, Sheriff, we're paying $350,000 a year to actually be more

[5:22:59] than that.

[5:22:59] It's actually more like $400,000 a year.

[5:23:02] How do you recommend, with staffing levels, to make that better?

[5:23:07] And so I would like to see your report like that.

[5:23:09] I don't want to put more pressure on the Sheriff's Office, but it would be an interesting,

[5:23:12] do you agree with me?

[5:23:13] That would be an interesting thing to ask for at least?

[5:23:16] Well, Commissioner, the Sheriff's Department has gotten many different positions.

[5:23:23] It's not just deputies that incur overtime.

[5:23:27] I mean, it's dispatch, it's, you know, the jail, it's, I mean, it's all kinds of different.

[5:23:33] For an office, I totally understand.

[5:23:35] I was just wondering if there's a way to just not compel it, but just ask if there's a way he wants more people.

[5:23:40] If it's a cheaper way to get more people and instead of the overtime show us the plan, we have to make sure we're not going to blow past that plan.

[5:23:47] I'm not suggesting creating policy. I just wouldn't mind seeing just this is what managers typically do in companies. It's hard to be a manager.

[5:23:55] It's not just strutting around and saying I'm a manager, it's actually doing stuff like this.

[5:23:58] So I don't know if that's possible. If we could get that that would be wonderful if not, then that's what it is.

[5:24:03] That kind of plays back to the last item, or the item with the, you know, the position

[5:24:12] policy, filling position policy.

[5:24:14] That's all kind of to get that information for that justification.

[5:24:19] So that's exactly what we're trying to accomplish.

[5:24:23] So you're on the right track.

[5:24:26] So the last piece, that was the sheriff's office that did not include the overtime for the

[5:24:32] jail, which is in the middle of the page, which is an additional $18,700.

[5:24:41] Just to point that out since we were talking about that.

[5:24:50] Okay, commissioners, do we have something to present?

[5:24:54] Chair, the only thing I heard came from direction to staff in regards to item number 8.

[5:25:00] 18, the items that we've opened, but I think senior has one more to discuss.

[5:25:06] And then when she's, when you're done, Zina, then we'll open public. Okay. So fiscal 27, we started the budget process and it was very difficult this year to say the least.

[5:25:20] We had to pull back on filled positions, open positions, which was very hard for many

[5:25:29] departments, especially for our safety area.

[5:25:34] And then we also had to do a 34% cut in service and supplies.

[5:25:41] So this is an update where we are with the fiscal 27 budget.

[5:25:49] We had the early employee separation program, we are going to be putting forward an agenda

[5:25:58] item to reduce salaries, benefits, and reclass where the cost savings was a placeholder.

[5:26:08] That's going to be about a million dollars.

[5:26:11] We have to move the jail fund over to the general fund.

[5:26:16] It's going to take a little time to do that because of the transactions have to be stopped.

[5:26:25] So it will take some time for us to cut off the jail fund and bring it over to the general

[5:26:31] fund.

[5:26:32] But in the most part, this is just a summary to show you where we stand with the fiscal

[5:26:39] 27 budget.

[5:26:40] But our budget was balanced when we approved it.

[5:26:46] And because there was so much pushback from some departments saying that they did not

[5:26:55] have enough in their budget for service and supplies, I have a few more departments

[5:27:02] to work with.

[5:27:03] But so far we have budget and item will be coming back to the Board of Commissioners at the next agenda meeting to talk about more specifics.

[5:27:17] But so far we have $1.7 million of service and supplies that departments are asking for, and then we still don't have over time budgeted.

[5:27:30] So those are the two items for the fiscal 27 budget to bring you up to speed of how where we are.

[5:27:43] Okay.

[5:27:46] Let's open public comment.

[5:27:51] Come on up, Stephen.

[5:27:58] Are you awake?

[5:27:59] Yes, there. Stephen Pittman, PITMA and Marine Corps.

[5:28:04] Keep it simple, stupid. If I incur $300,000 in overtime, that was not budgeted.

[5:28:13] And it can't be solved by hiring more people to decrease the overtime.

[5:28:19] Yes?

[5:28:21] Thank you.

[5:28:22] Thank you.

[5:28:22] Sam, any putty on the phone, please.

[5:28:25] Yes, chair.

[5:28:26] The caller is unmuted.

[5:28:27] Please speak of the spoiler name for the record.

[5:28:32] Bill Hannon, V-O-H-A, and then, oh, and a couple things here.

[5:28:35] One, on the 2026 feedback, wise comments, Zena, not committing that would be over or under the budget.

[5:28:48] You don't know what the adjusting entries are going to be and you don't know the last tax payment is going to be.

[5:28:53] what he's called. Number two, from an overtime standpoint, valid point,

[5:29:00] simplify, marine on the overtime not being budgeted with a caveat. So from an

[5:29:11] evaluation standpoint, what I heard is justification, justification, justification,

[5:29:16] But then here I think about rimmed the vacation either.

[5:29:20] So what is what is the penalty for a spending in here anything?

[5:29:26] Is it us going to watch this?

[5:29:28] Do we have to wait that long or is it something else that's done internally about curbing

[5:29:35] the expense and the cost that are occurring, driving efficiencies, you know hear me say

[5:29:43] that client bit but let's let's do more with less period as far as a as a 20 27 budget. I looked at

[5:29:57] With that, I was a little bit disappointed quite frankly.

[5:29:59] You

[5:30:00] One would be at least 10-20% of a cushion on the bottom, to give yourself leeway when there's

[5:30:07] an state of inflation, to give yourself leeway to be able to pay back some of the excess

[5:30:14] or some of the benefits that had been occurring on the pensions, etc. over time and the increases

[5:30:21] of unfunded mandates. So all that funding needs to be taken into account and provided for.

[5:30:31] The back there were time for a second.

[5:30:33] Thank you.

[5:30:34] The, the, the two,

[5:30:37] uh, come on down.

[5:30:43] Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON.

[5:30:47] First, one of the commissioners asked about the deputy situation, you know, if there's

[5:30:53] one or, you know, hiring one full time, it's one less body than, okay, so if you, if you

[5:31:02] You'll hire one full time instead of two and have them on overtime or whatever it might

[5:31:06] be.

[5:31:07] That means you're going to have one less body.

[5:31:10] So one less deputy, okay, that's just its common sense.

[5:31:15] Now with that, the incident, Zena, you made a comment of what the revenue was and what was

[5:31:22] paid out.

[5:31:23] If it's 57.7 that was brought in in revenue, but 64 million was paid out just for payroll

[5:31:29] alone.

[5:31:29] No, I don't understand how those numbers play.

[5:31:33] Yes, ma'am, payroll itself is 64 million, and can you stop our time, please?

[5:31:40] Older.

[5:31:41] Zania, would you please explain to the young lady what our outgo for payroll is, please?

[5:31:47] It's certainly not $67 million.

[5:31:49] No, it's $64.

[5:31:50] It's certainly not $64 million for payroll.

[5:32:02] So agenda item 16, I'm sorry, no, not 16.

[5:32:08] 16.

[5:32:09] So

[5:32:23] 16 has full year expenditures of $51 million.

[5:32:28] For the entire year for the entire county, not just payroll.

[5:32:33] And I'm explaining to you that just-

[5:32:35] I'm not done.

[5:32:37] Gina, within that, it shows the percentage for wages and salaries on item number 17 is 23,000,

[5:32:44] 23.5 million and benefits is 16.6.

[5:32:49] So we're not at 64 million by a long shot.

[5:32:51] Thank you.

[5:32:52] Thank you for holding this.

[5:32:53] No, if you were to look up on transparent Nevada, okay?

[5:32:56] And that is a legitimate site where it shows the salaries.

[5:33:01] On there, the total with benefits, okay, is 64 million.

[5:33:06] Let's talk offline because I can explain some of the problems, some of the differences in

[5:33:10] the information, the way it gets looked at.

[5:33:13] Thank you, Zena.

[5:33:14] That'd be really helpful.

[5:33:15] Thank you, Zena.

[5:33:16] And as for the Sheriff's Department and the jail, that should all be under one.

[5:33:20] including the courts. That should be all under one grouping, not divided. And the Sheriff's

[5:33:26] Department and the Fire Department are the last ones that should be questioned as this

[5:33:32] hard and what's getting paid. What are you going to do? Stop a fireman from being in the middle

[5:33:36] of a fire and tell him, oh, you can't pay him overtime. This is just, again, that's not even rational.

[5:33:44] And to be honest with you, I am formally going to call for a forensic audit and for everything outgoing or incoming anything for everything to be on a freeze until everything's investigated because something is not right somewhere because all this money that's getting paid yet there's nothing in this town to show for whatsoever.

[5:34:07] and Mr. Poskovich, you know, you can go ahead and make your facial expressions that's fine, it doesn't bother me one bit, sir, but it fends other people.

[5:34:14] Your time is done, and I don't know how you say there's nothing to show for it.

[5:34:18] There's nothing to show for it.

[5:34:19] There's roads, there's park, I mean, good God.

[5:34:22] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[5:34:27] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[5:34:30] Hello,

[5:34:34] Commissioner Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A. Can you hear me? Is my volume okay?

[5:34:39] Go ahead, sir.

[5:34:42] All right, I'm going to try to keep the peak for you. Sounds like you need to break these days.

[5:34:49] But anyhow, I definitely want to point out the fact that there definitely need to be a

[5:34:55] Borentic Audic and everybody.

[5:35:00] We should be able to see that they're actually taking from a forum. The NRS is states that our taxes stay here. They can shuffle it all they want to see how they keep their foot. It should be looked at on the private side of the way they handle the public money. But anyhow, I do want to mention to the Marines in the house. Perhaps the only way to save this county is for county officials to start going to jail for the crimes they commit.

[5:35:27] And notice that the DA didn't need a 2C county manager spoke on a previous agenda item when it came to this. I'm going to go ahead and point out the elephant.

[5:35:38] The DA didn't need one of those permission slips to add a courtesy driver. You know, all that money's coming from where.

[5:35:46] And how does that agenda item get on there? We all heard the DA screaming.

[5:35:49] I can't do my job, I've got to have the resources.

[5:35:54] What about that opinion?

[5:35:56] First of all, permission to slip from him.

[5:35:58] We counsel, we counsel.

[5:36:01] Thank you all.

[5:36:03] Go ahead Beth.

[5:36:05] Beth for Savage, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

[5:36:10] I am not an accountant.

[5:36:12] I hate doing numbers.

[5:36:14] I failed accounting in school, which I'm just not good at.

[5:36:19] it. So I'm going to ask a couple of questions, and it might be obvious, but because I am

[5:36:25] not an accountant, I need an answer.

[5:36:29] Why don't departments budget potential overtime?

[5:36:36] When I was in the construction field, and you got people out there pouring cement,

[5:36:42] putting up blocks or whatever, there could potential be overtime because something

[5:36:47] might happen there might be a delay in accident or something. But I think every department

[5:36:53] should budget potential over time. That way it's going to give you guys a clear record

[5:36:59] of what those departments are doing. So I don't know if that's a stupid idea, but I think

[5:37:05] that would be the right way to do it. Right? Okay, Zena. She just smiles. The other thing

[5:37:15] is I do not think we should talk about the police or the sheriff or the fire when it comes

[5:37:21] to overtime, employees or anything.

[5:37:24] Let's keep them off the side, talk about them in a totally different agenda item because

[5:37:32] people get hung up on the police and the fire where the other departments kind of like slide

[5:37:37] under the door and that's not good and we don't know where the money is going.

[5:37:41] And then we reduced services and supplies, $1.7 million or no, 34% what were these services

[5:37:55] and supplies that you guys went, that you have requests for $1.7 million, I'd like to

[5:38:02] know what those are, that they need so very badly.

[5:38:07] Thank you.

[5:38:08] Thanks, Beth.

[5:38:09] Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

[5:38:11] No chair.

[5:38:13] All right, Linda.

[5:38:14] Real quick.

[5:38:15] I just have a quick question.

[5:38:16] Linda Clark, Cilli, OK.

[5:38:21] Zena said just a few minutes ago.

[5:38:23] Hold on here.

[5:38:26] But the jail fund should be put in with the general fund.

[5:38:30] Why?

[5:38:30] And what would be the purpose?

[5:38:32] Why would it be a benefit?

[5:38:35] Joe doesn't even know.

[5:38:38] You know, Joe?

[5:38:43] OK, I just wanted an explanation for that.

[5:38:45] If we had separate funds before a while of a sudden are we coming going those funds.

[5:38:50] Thank you.

[5:38:51] Thank you.

[5:38:52] Sam, anybody else?

[5:38:54] No chair.

[5:38:54] Closing public.

[5:38:55] Easy answer.

[5:38:56] No income.

[5:38:57] We had a jail fund established because we had a ICE contract.

[5:39:01] We don't have one anymore.

[5:39:02] Thank you chair.

[5:39:03] Thank you.

[5:39:04] All right, commissioners.

[5:39:05] What are we doing with this?

[5:39:07] I'll figure out how to do whatever we want.

[5:39:09] I just want to say that, well, you know that commissioner.

[5:39:14] Jibor had a great idea for his direction to staff, I'd like to see that.

[5:39:19] And Bane.

[5:39:20] And Bane, that they put that together.

[5:39:22] But first and foremost, I would like to recognize when it comes to item number 16,

[5:39:28] which is an overview of where we started with a 6.5, yeah, well it says 6.5 deficit.

[5:39:36] And it's looking like by the time we get down with CTACs, we might have no deficit.

[5:39:40] And that is by the hard work of this county in the town of Prump to make sure that happened and these commissioners

[5:39:47] Haven't to take these hard hits for everybody out there telling us we're losing money in the meantime

[5:39:51] We're tightening our belts and tightening our belts and tightening our belts. And so thank you Zana. Thank you to your financial team

[5:40:00] Because you had to make sure all that got done and come up with the ideas to make it happen. Came from this board. So good job, board. Thank you, chair. Thank you, Commissioner, to board. Are you going to anything or Commissioner Bain?

[5:40:15] Good, thank you. Thank you, Zena and team. Thank you. All right, do we have to vote on this? Lee, the direction was good enough. Okay, closing that out, moving to 2021. Believe it or not.

[5:40:34] Item 21 general public comment up to three minute time limit per person, public comment will be for all matters off the agenda.

[5:40:41] Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the board of county commissioners.

[5:40:48] Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item.

[5:40:55] Thank you for that. All right, Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

[5:41:03] No chair.

[5:41:03] I'm on up, Susie.

[5:41:10] Susie Hertz, H-E-R-T-Z.

[5:41:13] Just something I noticed, I've noticed many times actually, and that has to do with

[5:41:20] an expense of the county.

[5:41:22] And that is, when I came in this morning, the sprinklers were running in the eye all over

[5:41:28] the grass. Where I come from, which is a less drought-strickened area, people generally

[5:41:39] watered their grass in their plants at night time when the winds were usually calmer and

[5:41:46] it was quieter and it was more effective use of the water. So I might make a suggestion

[5:41:55] that that be looked at here, everywhere you go throughout town, where there's any public land,

[5:42:03] the sprinklers are always running in the daytime.

[5:42:05] The wind blows the water away, it doesn't water what you're watering.

[5:42:09] Today there was a guy with his dog in the park and he couldn't use the park.

[5:42:14] He was walking around the edge on the pavement because he couldn't get to the grass.

[5:42:18] I

[5:42:21] hate to repeat myself, but until something changes, I guess, I'll have to.

[5:42:27] And that is to reinforce the fact that we who live here, have moved here or have come

[5:42:36] here to live in a rural, small community.

[5:42:42] And that doesn't mean we're against change and it doesn't mean we're against progress.

[5:42:47] Any of us who came from somewhere else came from a much more metropolitan environment that this so we're used to living a much higher life and a much more sophisticated life, but we've chosen to come here and be here and live here.

[5:43:03] And I would respectfully ask that this county administration and everybody in it, keep that in mind.

[5:43:11] Thank you, Susie.

[5:43:12] Thank you.

[5:43:12] So, I have anybody on the phone, please.

[5:43:17] Yes, chair of the caller is unmuted.

[5:43:19] Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[5:43:24] Yeah, my name is Matt Sadler, F-A-D-L-E-R.

[5:43:27] Good meeting commissioners.

[5:43:29] I want to put something on the radar here.

[5:43:32] I'm coming down the line.

[5:43:34] Or that I've been here in Romans, though.

[5:43:35] It's a municipal Perump police force,

[5:43:38] which would add a level of bureaucracy in our community

[5:43:41] that I would urge you to really question

[5:43:44] as to whether or not we would need that.

[5:43:46] My personal opinion, no way.

[5:43:49] You've already gotten rid of something like that in the past in the form of a town board.

[5:43:52] I don't think we need that again.

[5:43:54] We don't need that expense.

[5:43:56] Focus resources on bolstering the existing NIE County Sheriff's Office, please.

[5:44:00] Thank you.

[5:44:01] Thank you.

[5:44:01] Come on up, Linda.

[5:44:06] Linda Clark, Salie, okay.

[5:44:08] I just have a couple of observations from a couple of things that were on the agenda earlier,

[5:44:12] so I hope that I can speak to those.

[5:44:18] When Mr. Sutton was up here talking about the project that he is representing, they talked

[5:44:24] a lot about what they're going to do over there, and the thing that really threw me off

[5:44:27] the most, and I'm sure the people that live up there in that area are really concerned

[5:44:31] about it, is water, not once did they mention water and what they're going to be using, and

[5:44:39] that seems to be kind of a concern.

[5:44:42] they did say that they were going to put in a park. Okay, the park needs to be

[5:44:49] watered and I'm assuming that the park is below where they were going to put

[5:44:54] there whatever that thing was that they were going to keep the water from I

[5:44:57] don't know the technical terms.

[5:45:00] Basin thing? That was going to be below the basin? Was the park going to be above it? In it. Okay, so if we have a flood, or some other kind of problems, and we know that area up there is a flood zone, and they do have flooding up there, really bad. At the one meeting that we had, a lot of people did complain about it. And they were so upset that they all left be at the end of the thing because of the decisions that were made. People just walked out. It was disgusting, but it happened.

[5:45:29] and it was deserved.

[5:45:31] So, my question is if we're going to put a park

[5:45:34] where there's a possibility of that we could have a flood

[5:45:37] and kids could get hurt,

[5:45:39] gee, we'll have another splash pad that is unauthorized.

[5:45:42] So why wouldn't we care about that?

[5:45:48] I mean, obviously these kids could get hurt.

[5:45:50] Somebody could get hurt really bad.

[5:45:52] And they weren't talking about the water and the flooding.

[5:45:56] They were talking about an area

[5:45:59] were they're going to put a park and they're obviously going to be using water so I don't

[5:46:04] understand the why we would put something in an area where the kids could be hurt.

[5:46:11] Thank you Linda.

[5:46:11] Yes.

[5:46:12] Am we on anybody on the phone please?

[5:46:14] Yes chair the caller is unmuted please be given a spell your name for the record.

[5:46:22] I was going to talk about all the building and all the constructions that are going on with the solar farms.

[5:46:38] The water is a huge issue and we keep making plans to build more houses and put more people out here.

[5:46:48] and we just we just don't have the water and our infrastructure is failing. We keep raising taxes on

[5:46:59] the few of us that pay taxes on our homes to support the entire county and that has to change

[5:47:09] true. We have to have some other forms be it fundraisers or something that the county

[5:47:19] can do to involve the people, to trust the government, to be close to the government,

[5:47:28] and be part of it. But it's something to think about. I don't know if any of you are interested

[5:47:36] Now, maybe our new board will be, but thank you.

[5:47:41] Thanks, Amy.

[5:47:42] Come on down, please.

[5:47:48] Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON.

[5:47:51] I'm not sure if we're being given two or three minutes.

[5:47:54] At the time, we're set for two or three minutes.

[5:47:56] Mr. Wagner said that it was going to be for three minutes.

[5:48:00] It's two minutes, all day.

[5:48:01] Mr. Wagner said it three minutes.

[5:48:03] Mr. Boyce, in your own time.

[5:48:06] First of all, I would like to address the board, I don't know which one of you made

[5:48:11] the comment, something about refer to somebody as a scumbag.

[5:48:15] That is uncalled for and does not represent a way that a commissioner should behave.

[5:48:21] Also the fact that it's going well, that's not my district.

[5:48:24] If you're a commissioner on this board for the county, it's not just your district that

[5:48:29] you're responsible for, it's the entire county.

[5:48:31] So sitting there and, you know, not putting your input and not being concerned about it, then you shouldn't be a part of this board if that's all you're going to do.

[5:48:41] Second or next, Mr. Bane, you running around the park filming the homeless and filming the garbage can in the park is, excuse me, sir, but it made you look like a deranged lunatic.

[5:48:57] that was just unbecoming of anybody, whether in an office or not. And it kind of represents

[5:49:06] though the way that this whole commission has been behaving, like to arrange lunatics.

[5:49:11] So I think you need to set back and look at your own behaviors before you go scrutinizing

[5:49:15] anybody else's decorum, like that word you guys like to throw around but have no meaning

[5:49:20] what it means. You want respect? Give respect back. Act like you deserve it. And it's

[5:49:29] edited that there's a many of the board members here that don't give a damn about the community.

[5:49:35] What's so whatever? Because they don't want to listen. And that's fine. Because the only people

[5:49:41] who are looking like a fool here are you guys not me and not nobody else out here. And again,

[5:49:47] And I will be calling for that forensic audit at everybody's payroll.

[5:49:51] You're welcome.

[5:49:51] Do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[5:49:53] Yes, chair.

[5:49:54] The caller is unmuted.

[5:49:55] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[5:50:00] The church of rub, the RLBD, two minutes to speak. Wow. Is this going to be something that's

[5:50:07] going to be two minutes going forward, or are we going to go back to our three minutes?

[5:50:12] I had prepared information to share with you that is very valuable, and I was cut off.

[5:50:19] So I just want to remind you to please get with the Regional Planning Commission to get

[5:50:25] on their agenda in regards to the overlay ordinance that they're working on. The owners are waiting.

[5:50:32] The owners are frustrated. The owners talk to me and tell me everything that's going on,

[5:50:38] but they build you're not listening and they don't want to talk to you. So I'm sorry, I don't want

[5:50:44] to have to carry a double of this. Along with Lorraine, we show up at every meeting or we call

[5:50:49] meeting. These people want us to carry their burden in their load and they're

[5:50:55] frustrated. I just want to remind you that NRS chapters 244 and 278 together

[5:51:01] reflect that balance between development, property rights and public needs,

[5:51:07] regulation should not leave properties permanently useless without considering a

[5:51:12] reasonable pathway forward. And we've provided that. Everyone should have a backup

[5:51:18] that plan when it comes to water.

[5:51:20] Everyone should be able to understand

[5:51:22] how conservation works.

[5:51:24] That's what I want to say.

[5:51:26] Thank you.

[5:51:27] Thank you.

[5:51:28] Come on down, Beth.

[5:51:33] Beth for Savage, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

[5:51:39] Four years ago, I set up a site

[5:51:41] and complained about VA raising our rates

[5:51:45] out of the blue one month before they instituted them.

[5:51:50] Nobody knew about it.

[5:51:51] I called and raised Holy Hell.

[5:51:54] I started a website and it kind of morphed into not only VA, now it's morphed into

[5:52:03] Nye County as well as some out of county towns that have called ask questions.

[5:52:12] And it has involved the majority of people in the town that are on Facebook and I want

[5:52:19] to say I am damn proud of all these people standing up and voicing their opinion.

[5:52:28] Everyone of you guys that do any kind of research, I want to say good job.

[5:52:36] Keep it up because that's what the whole thing was about.

[5:52:40] And it's not to yell at you, I don't know you guys personally.

[5:52:47] I can yell at you though about the things that are happening because of my frustration.

[5:52:54] And if anybody hates you personally, you then, you know, okay, but I don't know you

[5:52:59] so I can't hate you.

[5:53:01] But sometimes, you know, it gets really frustrating when we ask a question.

[5:53:06] There's no follow-through with people say they send an email and they don't get a response.

[5:53:11] You guys have all been good at returning my emails because I guess I'm a pain in the butt and I just keep emailing until I get an answer.

[5:53:20] So I just want to say, I'm not yelling at you and I don't think everybody is yelling at you.

[5:53:28] They're just yelling at the circumstances that we find ourselves in.

[5:53:33] So I'm not speaking for everybody, but thank you.

[5:53:38] Thank you.

[5:53:39] Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[5:53:41] Yes, chair.

[5:53:41] The caller is unmuted.

[5:53:43] Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[5:53:47] Bruce.

[5:53:48] Hello.

[5:53:49] Commissioner Bruce Johnson, J.O.H.N.

[5:53:51] S.O.N.

[5:53:53] I'll be honest with you.

[5:53:54] I want to just want to applaud everybody that's stepped right here, stepped up right here.

[5:53:59] And the comments being made pretty much, I'm going to reiterate the same things.

[5:54:07] You guys really need to learn where your grants of authority is at.

[5:54:13] And Mr. Boschovich, you think these notices don't mean nothing?

[5:54:21] You're going to find out, sir.

[5:54:24] Take them seriously.

[5:54:26] And I yield.

[5:54:28] Go on down in front, please.

[5:54:35] Good afternoon or good evening.

[5:54:38] Commissioners.

[5:54:39] My name's Emma Valendor.

[5:54:41] E-M-M-A-V-E-L-A-D-O-R, and I am from Amragosa Valley Nevada.

[5:54:47] I grew up in Perump, but I moved to Amragosa.

[5:54:51] I love Perump, and I love Amragosa, and I want to believe that you do care about the

[5:54:58] residents of America.

[5:55:00] Especially those who are totally against the Amorgosa National Conservation Area. Our town manager,

[5:55:11] I'm sorry not our town manager, our town board, chairwoman or chairman has called it

[5:55:17] Ash Meadows National Conservation Area. That's the song that's been sung to us. But in the

[5:55:24] documents that she has submitted to you, folks, and the public lands department of which

[5:55:29] I have seen many.

[5:55:31] It is the Amargosa National Conservation Area, and that's really scary because that means

[5:55:38] it's no longer just Ash Meadows or Save Ash Meadows.

[5:55:43] It is the entire Amargosa Valley that is going to be converted into a national monument or

[5:55:52] national conservation area which means that that's going to restrict our rights as property owners,

[5:55:59] our wells, if they go dry, the conservation, this so-called conservation thing can come in

[5:56:05] and say, you know what, if your well is dry too bad, we're not going to let you drill another

[5:56:10] well. Our taxes are going to go up and that's already been proven with other places where property

[5:56:17] already taxes have gone up, where people live close to a conservation area or a national

[5:56:24] conservation area or a park. We don't want that. We're not asking for that. We're not

[5:56:29] the ones looking for trouble. So I don't understand why our chairman feels that she can be doing

[5:56:36] this to us. Thank you very much. Okay, thank you so very much.

[5:56:40] Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

[5:56:43] Yes, Chair Collar is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[5:56:50] Hello, commissioners, Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-S-D-I-A, and I'll show you this will be the last time I asked you today.

[5:56:57] Look, can you hear me? Okay. Go ahead. It is the last time.

[5:57:03] Thank you. Thank you.

[5:57:05] I appreciate it. I hope I don't get charged for the laughter, but anyhow, I want to start off on the right foot when it comes to

[5:57:12] spiritual warfare and spiritual attacks.

[5:57:14] I definitely want to thank and praise the Jim Mars family

[5:57:18] for sharing their Bible with us.

[5:57:21] And I'm hoping that gentlemen will bring it up

[5:57:24] and share some more verses with us.

[5:57:27] And with God, nothing's impossible.

[5:57:30] Everybody, our natural rights, our natural prosperity

[5:57:35] is under attack in every way, shape, and form.

[5:57:38] It's time we stand up.

[5:57:39] We see it across. It's every county, every state, 2300 children a day go missing in this country and we have a problem talking about it. As Christians, we need to rise.

[5:57:53] We need to rise, you know, so for some of these rainbows, you need to go to Leviticus 38, Romans 26, 27.

[5:58:01] and prayer does nothing without declaration and decree.

[5:58:06] It's all about obedience, sin and Greek

[5:58:09] is when you miss the target.

[5:58:11] Repent and Greek is when you adjust the mind.

[5:58:14] It has nothing to do about your feelings, your remorse.

[5:58:18] And for me, it's about Matthew, the discernment,

[5:58:22] plus revelations, plus Psalm 109,

[5:58:25] and let Satan himself stand over your shoulders,

[5:58:27] but the liability is coming, civil and criminal,

[5:58:33] lukewarm Christians, no problem, bring them all,

[5:58:37] the devil only attacks what he owns,

[5:58:40] what he doesn't know, think about it, think about it,

[5:58:44] where are you at, no bill or rights,

[5:58:47] what good is the constitutional oath?

[5:58:49] Bring it, 355 times out shall not fear,

[5:58:53] bring your DA, bring your minister.

[5:59:01] I think there's a misconception about the national conservation area only being for

[5:59:08] Amagosa Ash Meadows.

[5:59:10] This is hence the word national, this affects everybody.

[5:59:14] So this will affect paramp crystal, Johnny off-road clubs, horseback riding, rock hounding.

[5:59:20] This national conservation area has been in the works for years with Susan Soros of Shoshone,

[5:59:27] Amargosa Conservancy, Fish and Wildlife.

[5:59:29] They've been working on this for a long time.

[5:59:31] Remember the 40-mile radius around Devil's Hole?

[5:59:34] That was stopped because that would affect private property and water-right owners.

[5:59:38] If this goes through, that will be implemented in effect stakeholders.

[5:59:42] Then it was lithium.

[5:59:43] Then they stopped that.

[5:59:45] Now they want to put a 20-year withdrawal mineral withdrawal around that.

[5:59:49] There's pre-existing claims, this doesn't affect them.

[5:59:52] We have a lot of rich minerals there.

[5:59:54] If you put in a 20-year mineral withdrawal, this will affect...

[6:00:00] It's been mining there for over 60 years or good stewards of the land, and they already have pre-existing claims. So I don't know how the NCA will protect them. It could only hurt them if they close off roads. The town has been working on 18 solar farms. And so I just lost my spot. They've been working on 18 solar farms. So how is that going to save us out there? They're going in.

[6:00:27] So, taking 186,000 acres of land is going to do nothing to help us.

[6:00:32] I'm asking you guys to please stop this.

[6:00:35] We don't need this.

[6:00:37] They got enough of our land.

[6:00:39] They're not good stewards of the land, so please stop it.

[6:00:42] Thank you.

[6:00:42] Thank you, Nat.

[6:00:43] Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[6:00:46] I think you've already seen it.

[6:00:47] No, chair.

[6:00:57] Oh, yeah, there is none.

[6:00:58] It's a presentation.

[6:01:01] Sorry.

[6:01:01] Go ahead, Sam.

[6:01:03] There's no.

[6:01:04] Okay. Come on up.

[6:01:16] Paul Lemus, L-E-M-U-S, when he is judged, let him come forth guilty.

[6:01:24] That's the Palms 109 Chapter 7 that the gentleman had requested for. I want to say today,

[6:01:31] if anybody is a victim of their HOA selectively enforcing them, in other words, your neighbor

[6:01:36] gets in trouble for having their garbage can out, you don't, or vice versa.

[6:01:41] There's a group with the Real Estate Amps Budsman.

[6:01:45] This is on our website too.

[6:01:47] Anybody can link in.

[6:01:48] You can make a complaint formally.

[6:01:50] There's all kinds of complaint forms, by the way, on our website, govoversite.com.

[6:01:55] For the Inspector General, a matter of fact, associated with the condition of Ash Meadows,

[6:02:00] maybe some people should go on there and go ahead and make a report associated with that.

[6:02:04] But the Amps Budsman's office will come out. They can do something called an alternative dispute resolution for you and your HOA

[6:02:10] Which will give you a little bit more rights and stuff and kind of balance the waters if you have some kind of a

[6:02:15] Terranical or out of control HOA. I have some flyers here if anybody needs those. These little

[6:02:21] Quasite governmental places right now are kind of being swirmed and taken over by people that maybe not are of the spirit and so

[6:02:28] Sometimes you might have to just call these guys to say hey, I need a fair shake

[6:02:32] I wanted to drop off today, these are the documents that Mr. Marsh wanted me to drop off.

[6:02:39] Could I leave them here on for the desk?

[6:02:41] This is from to each commissioner from Mr. Jim Marsh.

[6:02:44] These are also some affected landowners who had no idea about this, that absolutely did

[6:02:48] not want the conservancy, and I've made plenty of copies for all of you.

[6:02:52] This here is the cease and desist letter to Amargosa Conservancy, and I wish you take service

[6:02:59] today because I'd like to serve it to you.

[6:03:02] Thank you

[6:03:09] very much. Have a good day. Thank you. Go ahead and tell them, Paul, please.

[6:03:17] Oh, my daughter. Good evening. My daughter drew a cross for you guys.

[6:03:23] I'm sorry. Go ahead. Good evening. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Matt Raider, R-A-D-E-R.

[6:03:31] I'm the Emergo Survivor Project Manager for the Nature Conservancy.

[6:03:34] I grew up in Probe, I live in Bating now, so it means a lot to me have a chance to speak

[6:03:39] on behalf of my organization today.

[6:03:42] I want to clarify a few facts for the public record.

[6:03:45] The Nature Conservancy is a science-based conservation organization dedicated to protecting

[6:03:50] the lands and waters to sustain people and nature.

[6:03:54] Nature Conservancy is not involved in the proposed national conservation area that's discussed

[6:03:59] yesterday, and we would not receive land or funding if the proposal were to move forward.

[6:04:05] Nature Conservancy has worked to protect the unique species, habitats, and water resources

[6:04:10] of the Amargosa watershed for decades.

[6:04:14] In 1983, the Nature Conservancy acquired more than 13,000 acres in Ash Meadows to prevent

[6:04:20] the area from being developed into a proposed 20,000 lot subdivision.

[6:04:25] The land was later transferred to the United States Fish and Wildlife Service, and Ash Meadows

[6:04:31] National Wildlife Refuge was established in 1984.

[6:04:35] The Refuge protects springs, wetlands, and desert habitats that support a remarkable diversity

[6:04:41] of plants and wildlife, including many species that are nor else in the world.

[6:04:46] However, the Nature Conservancy does not own land within the refuge today, and is not involved

[6:04:52] with the national conservation area that's being discussed.

[6:04:55] I really appreciate the opportunity to provide this clarification.

[6:05:00] And ensure the public record accurately reflects the nature, conservancy's role with respect to the proposal being discussed. Thank you, and have a nice night. Thank you very much. Come on down and, Peron, please.

[6:05:17] Mason Vale, the OEHL for the record. I am the executive director of Amorgos Conservancy, a local nonprofit organization with a mission of working toward a sustainable future for the Amorgos River through science, stewardship and advocacy. I want to clarify, organization is a private, non-government organization.

[6:05:34] organization with no role or authority whatsoever in the management of Ash Meadows.

[6:05:39] Therefore, concerns about management need to be addressed to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife

[6:05:43] Service.

[6:05:44] Anyone who follows the work of our organization knows that over the years we have showed

[6:05:48] up again and again before this commission, town boards, tribal councils, communities throughout

[6:05:54] the region and the spirit of respect and cooperation to address threats facing the Emergo

[6:05:59] a river and to help shape solutions to give the river and everyone that depends on it a fighting chance of the future.

[6:06:06] Just three years ago, I stood right here, came before the county to raise the alarm about rover critical minerals

[6:06:10] and then reckless lithium mining proposal on the doorstep of Ash Meadows. Together with the county's support,

[6:06:16] we were able to stop that threat in its tracks. And that's an example of the kind of work organization is here

[6:06:21] to do to protect water and wildlife in that county. Everyone has the right to express their views,

[6:06:28] participate in public processes that determine how our lands and waters are managed.

[6:06:32] In fact, it's critical that everyone that cares about places like Ash Meadows and the

[6:06:37] Emergo Survivor continue to do so.

[6:06:39] Our organization enjoys and exercises that right of free speech as well.

[6:06:44] We look forward to continuing to address the myriad threats to the Emergo Survivor in the

[6:06:48] spirit of respect and cooperation with Nye County and its communities because Chair Boscovitch

[6:06:52] was correct in his opening remarks this morning.

[6:06:55] We have to figure this out together.

[6:06:56] Thank you, commissioners.

[6:06:58] Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please?

[6:07:04] Yeah.

[6:07:04] My name

[6:07:09] is Cindy Bedean to be the IENT.

[6:07:14] I have a place in Amorgosa and Crystal, and sorry, I can't talk about it.

[6:07:21] I say no to the NCI, I've did a lot of research, and the wild and the fishing game came out

[6:07:27] there, and they're trying to do the same thing they did to us, and they ruined our properties

[6:07:32] out there.

[6:07:32] So let's say no. Thank you. Thank you very much.

[6:07:37] Come on, Victor.

[6:07:43] Victor Fuentes, FUE and TES.

[6:07:47] Well, we have a environmentalist over here today. That is good to see, you know,

[6:07:54] they protect everything. They protect everything except us, the humans.

[6:07:58] We are the endangered species in Amargosa and Ashmeros. In Ashmeros,

[6:08:06] they have killed everything. I cannot see one thing that they are saving in Ashmeadows.

[6:08:14] And everyone here in this room can go over there and see with their own eyes what they

[6:08:20] have done to Ashmeadows. When these people talk Ashmeadows, you know,

[6:08:24] teaching about life, it was a beauty, it was a oasis. People can write their horses, you know,

[6:08:31] they can go over there and swim in a crystal pool, you know, the families that go over there,

[6:08:37] they have a lot of recreation over there, they have a lot of fun and a lot of people,

[6:08:42] Debra, you know, many of you will be hearing in this room, they enjoy that place. They used to

[6:08:48] enjoy that place. You go to Ashmer today and it's a fire waiting to happen. The last thing that they

[6:08:57] done is to drain the reservoir and with that whole bunch of fish die and my

[6:09:01] property every time that they cut off my water my water is cut off right now as

[6:09:06] we speak it's cut off right now you can go over there to my property now and see

[6:09:10] the fish dying and the water right now they are not saving anything they are

[6:09:16] destroying everything in marshmallows and so I don't see why we should give in

[6:09:23] these people one more inch a land because they don't produce anything you know all the water

[6:09:29] we have 60 million gallon of water and my side only I'm not talking about the other side

[6:09:35] they go through there and I go straight to California with a city center of of night county

[6:09:42] can you even touch the water we can only see it see it going by thank you Victor so no no to the

[6:09:48] That's it, thank you.

[6:09:49] Stand be on the phone for us, please.

[6:09:53] No chair.

[6:10:01] Hey, my name is Ben Burr, that last name is B-U-R-R, and I was invited out here by some friends here in Amorgos, Avali. I'm the executive director of the Blue Ribbon Coalition. We are a national nonprofit that does legal and advocacy work to keep public lands open for recreation. And we got called out here because we heard there's this proposed national conservation area. And we wanted to come learn more about it. We have a lot of experience with national conservation area.

[6:10:31] in other states and the work that groups like the gentleman that just spoke to to use public

[6:10:40] land designations for federal government designations to lock up our public lands and I'm here.

[6:10:46] I'm learning about this and I just wanted to offer our services.

[6:10:50] We will be educating your community and your constituents about the dangers that come with the national

[6:10:54] conservation area and the way they reduce access to those public lands and we hope

[6:10:59] I hope you will take that under advisement and into consideration as this proposal that seems to be in its early stages of development moves forward.

[6:11:07] Thank you.

[6:11:08] Thank you, sir Sam.

[6:11:09] Anybody else please?

[6:11:13] No chair.

[6:11:13] We're going to close public comment and move to 22, please.

[6:11:23] 22, please.

[6:11:31] He means the other work of the year.

[6:11:35] Commissioner Manager comments, this item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction of staff, or topics proposed for future board meetings.

[6:11:48] Link to the deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada open meeting law.

[6:11:54] All right, thank you for that.

[6:11:55] Commissioner Bain.

[6:11:58] Nope, Commissioner.

[6:11:59] Thank

[6:12:05] you, everybody, for being here today.

[6:12:07] Commissioner Strickland.

[6:12:09] Thank you everybody.

[6:12:10] I know we're trying to adjust this two-minute time, 79 minutes we're saved, which is almost

[6:12:16] an hour and 20 minutes.

[6:12:18] We could be here until 7 o'clock, or we could get our business done, and our employees

[6:12:22] and the staff that work so hard to be here and help us can have a life.

[6:12:26] It'd be on this, Mr. Coney.

[6:12:29] And they're getting paid overtime.

[6:12:30] That's right.

[6:12:31] Which we don't want.

[6:12:32] I've heard a lot of conversations today about the National Mission What.

[6:12:36] Excuse me.

[6:12:37] That is a very profound statement.

[6:12:40] Thank you very much.

[6:12:40] Very awful.

[6:12:41] Because every employee is listening to us because they may need to call in to give us information.

[6:12:46] Thank you, sir.

[6:12:47] I've heard a lot today about national conservation, something or another that no one has ever come to me about voting.

[6:12:54] We just know or otherwise about it.

[6:12:56] So if they ever come here, maybe you guys want to come back and talk about it then instead of now because we don't know what you're talking about.

[6:13:05] So my opinion been a great meeting and

[6:13:13] I guess I'm done.

[6:13:17] Thank you, Commissioner.

[6:13:20] No, I'm good.

[6:13:21] I just want to thank everybody for being here and again, I'm going to remind everybody

[6:13:24] that we're in this as landowners and property owners or landowners and citizens and families

[6:13:33] and everything else here.

[6:13:34] So it's much easier if we try to figure out how to work together.

[6:13:38] and please understand that just because we don't maybe necessarily agree with every single thing you say or sometimes even demand it's like there's 55,000 of us not just this room so but thank you and we are out at 549.

[6:13:59] Actually hold on are there any other managers or directors we're back in.

[6:14:04] No chair.

[6:14:05] Now we're out.

[6:14:06] Safe trip to those that are driving home from Tonapau.

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