[2:15] She's ready.

[2:18] All right, let's morning everybody, rise with me if you like for Pastor John Biggs from

[2:25] Save by Grace Lutheran Church.

[2:30] Oh, I'm sorry.

[2:34] Good morning, commissioners. And thank you for having me here today.

[2:40] A word from Romans chapter 12. All right, hate. What is evil? Clean to what is good.

[2:48] Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves. Share with those who

[2:56] in need, practice hospitality. Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but respect when is right

[3:04] in the eyes of everyone. And if it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live it peace

[3:11] with everyone. The Word of the Lord, thanks be to God.

[3:18] Let us pray.

[3:20] Almighty God, you have called us the labor in this world for you and for our neighbor, and without you,

[3:25] can do nothing. And so we ask you today for your wisdom, discernment and guidance, both for our

[3:32] Nikoni Commissioners as well as for all those who are gathered here today. So give our commissioners

[3:38] clear minds, listening ears, and fair hearts as they make decisions affecting our county's

[3:44] budget infrastructure in daily well-being, grant them humility, and a deep sense of service

[3:50] to the people they represent. And by your spirit grant, every person who has come here today

[3:56] wisdom and their thinking grace in their attitudes and above all love and courage in their

[4:02] convictions in Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Pastor. All right. We're going to call

[4:10] this joint meeting of the 9 County Board of County Commissioners at all together. Commissioner,

[4:15] We'll call it, would you like to lead us?

[4:20] Through the flag, the United States of America.

[4:24] To the Republic for which it stands,

[4:27] one nation, another law,

[4:29] another small.

[4:33] Thank you.

[4:39] All right.

[4:40] Do we have our DA in total?

[4:46] Yes.

[4:46] Morning, Brian.

[4:47] Hey, can we limit public comment to two minutes, please?

[4:51] At your tourist discretion.

[4:53] Thank you.

[4:53] Two minute public comment.

[4:56] Number two, please.

[4:56] .

[5:00] Item 2, general public comment, up to 2 minute time limit per person. Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item.

[5:22] Thank you very much for that. Come on down Mr. Pippman and it is not functioning today, but it will be next meeting.

[5:30] Steven Pittman, PIT, M-A-N. Now that the Department of Environmental Protection has given

[5:36] a green light to many ways, will you deny building occupancy and operating permits? Who

[5:42] does the inspection of waste to ensure that it does not include prohibited items specified

[5:48] on pages three and four of the permit fact sheet? There is, as yet, no end-depth approved plan

[5:54] for the disposal of residue ash in Nevada. How will the exhaust from the process be monitored

[6:00] and by whom, and Trump Valley Fire effectively respond to a fire at the facility, the Chief

[6:06] just told me that he has to revisit the facility to see that it is in compliance.

[6:11] This is not the kind of industry for up needs.

[6:15] My second item is why this Commissioner Bane used a personal Gmail account when the other

[6:20] commissioners use the official at nighcountynv.gov account that are archived on county

[6:27] servers.

[6:28] Thank you.

[6:28] Thank you, sir.

[6:30] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[6:35] Yes, Chair.

[6:36] The caller is unmuted.

[6:37] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[6:42] Oh, yes.

[6:42] Sam, we know.

[6:44] Any else?

[6:44] That's going.

[6:46] A couple of things.

[6:48] We can change the items.

[6:51] People that are familiar with what's going on.

[6:55] And even those that are.

[6:57] I have a tough time reading.

[6:59] What these items are about?

[7:01] If might be the best thing to do is to inform the public what they're about, basically,

[7:11] and in a shorter format.

[7:14] And the other thing is public comment, I was going to ask if you would put it back

[7:21] to five minutes, but I now realize that it doesn't matter that we have public comment.

[7:28] And you would do a way with it all together if you could, and that's unfortunate.

[7:34] You have a good meeting.

[7:36] Thank you.

[7:37] I'm going down in the front, please.

[7:39] Good morning, commissioners.

[7:41] And everybody, best for a seven.

[7:43] Bill R. Y. S. E. W. I.

[7:45] I'm really happy to be here.

[7:49] I haven't been here, but I have been working really hard behind the scenes.

[7:54] You know, the dirt race track that's up on Basin, people were interested in having that

[8:00] renovated, however the land has been sold and so it's not available.

[8:05] So I've already put together a prospectus investments.

[8:09] You name it, I've got like a 45-page document that I'd like to talk to somebody on the

[8:16] commission here so that we can find some land away from homes and not at the fairgrounds

[8:22] one of these race tracks, it would be a very good income producing activity for the town, not only in RVs,

[8:31] but in going to the stores and charges for getting into the races. So I think that's like a

[8:38] high priority you should put on your list of income producing activities. The splash pad is a total

[8:45] discussed. Have you guys seen the season to sister order? You have. You've not shared it with

[8:53] the county. Well, I'll be getting a copy tomorrow. I'll be sharing it with everybody. We want

[8:59] to talk to somebody about what we're going to do about this. It is the town's money and Mr.

[9:07] Martinez in his group screwed up or oily. We need to fix that. Big time. Metaways, you know,

[9:14] was approved. I've got forms available for people that might want to fill it out and mail it

[9:20] in with potential suggestions and how to fill in all of the different form areas. And I've

[9:27] also got the original approval letter that must go with your complaint. So I've been busy

[9:34] and I'll be around a lot again, so don't get mad at CM me, but I'll be here. Thanks.

[9:40] welcome back. And I agree with you. I know, but Joey here. I told

[9:45] up please. I convinced her to go. Yes, I see her smiling face. Go ahead, Miss

[9:49] Johnny. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate the opportunity. The old ton of

[9:55] pass cemetery was in use between 1901 and 1911 in ton of

[9:59] Thank you.

[10:00] Very early days, until the West End mining company needed to move through that area with its tailings.

[10:08] And included in the burials in that cemetery, besides minors and prostitutes, gunfighters, men, women and children,

[10:16] are many veterans, more than 20 veterans of the American Civil War, the Spanish American War,

[10:25] and the Philippine insurrection. I worked with the Senator Edward D. Baker, Camp 31,

[10:32] sons of the Union veterans of the Civil War in Las Vegas, and we ordered headstones

[10:38] through the Veterans Administration, which is free for nine of those veterans of these wars.

[10:46] We are going to be dedicating those headstones and the reenactors will be coming up from Las Vegas at 1 o'clock on September 6th, that's a Sunday and we're going to hold a formal dedication of those headstones and we'll even have cannons there to set off to commemorate this event.

[11:09] After words, there will be a reception at the Tone Upon Elk's Lodge.

[11:13] This is just an invitation for anybody who would like to participate.

[11:17] Thank you.

[11:18] Thank you, Jonie.

[11:19] Very nice to see you.

[11:20] Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[11:23] Yes, Chair.

[11:23] The caller is unmuted.

[11:25] Please speak on your name for the record.

[11:33] I'm on to almost hurt.

[11:38] Good morning.

[11:39] Susie Hurts, H-E-R-T-Z.

[11:42] I would like, if you would please, in your comment section,

[11:46] This morning to answer to us who's the person who decides how many minutes the public has to speak and how that's decided.

[11:59] I think we'd all like to know that having just sprung two-minute limitations on us this morning without warning.

[12:09] Secondly, in that comment section, I would appreciate it if you would reinstate your affirming

[12:20] statements and actions that met a waste is not in a position to open a facility here in

[12:31] as has been discussed in the past and whether or not you're going to write a letter of protests

[12:38] to the environmental protection state agency about it. As you know, we citizens are absolutely

[12:46] not in favor, absolutely against, metaways coming into this community and I would hope that

[12:54] you continue to make sure that doesn't happen.

[12:59] Also, it would like to comment and reaffirm

[13:07] the fact that we know that we have limited water resources

[13:15] in our water basin.

[13:17] And I would seriously like to know why the RPC is allowed to

[13:24] and doesn't have any kind of direction or limitation

[13:30] regarding approval of massive housing projects

[13:35] and massive industrial projects in our basin.

[13:40] These requests keep coming through.

[13:42] Thank you.

[13:44] Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[13:47] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[13:49] Please, speak on your name for the record.

[13:53] Yes, my Patricia Vahov, RLBB, regarding the utility challenge not from the problem seems to be stagnant.

[14:03] When risk analysis becomes risk paralysis, because possible solutions that don't further impact our offer,

[14:12] or burden other taxpayers are rejected over what could go wrong progress does not happen.

[14:19] So instead of thinking what if something goes wrong, maybe you should be asking, how can we make this work safely for these owners?

[14:29] Based on our interactions with the board over the last year and a half, I'm not sensing that alternatives are genuinely being considered.

[14:40] It knows more like they're continually being pushed aside, yet our entire community had

[14:48] benefit from supplemental alternatives, not just utility challenge, but owners.

[14:54] We're not saying alternatives are better than conventional utilities, but they do.

[15:00] Offer a pathway forward for corrupt where utility infrastructure may not exist in our lifetime, if ever. And saying to go wrong, isn't really a standard, conventional systems can go wrong too. Wells can become contaminated, and septic systems can fail. Yet, government doesn't normally say because somebody fails to maintain something nobody can use it.

[15:25] So, are we evaluating alternatives against objective health and safety standards or

[15:31] against belief that conventional utilities are the only acceptable way to meet those standards?

[15:38] When alternatives can meet them too, having supplemental water back at should simply be common sense for everyone?

[15:46] We've identified the problems, proposed safeguards drafted amendments, ordinances provided justification and

[15:52] identified supporting state laws.

[15:55] Thank you for moving forward.

[15:58] Hello and from.

[15:59] Go ahead.

[15:59] Why?

[16:02] Good morning.

[16:03] Cheryl Varkales.

[16:04] Vies and Victor.

[16:07] ARKALIS.

[16:08] On behalf of Perumpt, please submit an appeal to the Nevada Department of Environmental Protection

[16:13] to oppose the MetaWaste.

[16:15] Time is of the essence and appeals are due by September the 10th.

[16:18] The middle of Peromp is not the place for this facility that will burn 41 tons a day.

[16:24] They changed that number.

[16:26] In their comment document that was sent out on August 31st, and we haven't had a lot of time

[16:32] to review it, it was originally 16.8.

[16:37] They stated that they corrected an error, so the number has doubled almost doubled in half.

[16:44] So somebody needs to look at that, please.

[16:45] Hundreds of people attended and spoke at the Nevada Treasures on July 7.

[16:51] The meeting room was packed, it was a ballroom, and everyone there except for the folks

[16:57] from mid-Awaist were in an opposition.

[17:00] But they approved end-up, end-up, approved it despite 334 public comments, that's their number.

[17:07] They improperly executed mandatory procedural requirements under NAC444.6419.

[17:16] We have to have a legal basis, and that is one of them.

[17:19] They failed to properly document published, or logically fact, or substantial public feedback

[17:25] into the final decision.

[17:27] They admitted in their response, it simply states, quote, given the volume of comments received

[17:36] The division is prepared to consolidate a response in lieu of individual responses to each submission comments are grouped by subject matter.

[17:47] And I quote from their response, comments concerning air quality,

[17:52] county land use approvals, transportation, property values,

[17:55] other matters outside the division's authority are only acknowledged.

[18:00] Last time I checked air quality is an end up environmental protection issue.

[18:05] Thank you very much, ma'am.

[18:06] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[18:09] Yes, Chair, the Collarants Unmuted.

[18:10] Please, Speaker and Spel your name for the record.

[18:16] Excuse me.

[18:17] This is Paula Thompson, THOMP, MPSON.

[18:21] I also would like to know if the board will be submitting a field

[18:25] to oppose the med waste plant in the room.

[18:29] Our community is not a dumping ground for California,

[18:32] but California is dealing with their own medical waste

[18:35] on their own land and leave us alone.

[18:37] Thank you.

[18:38] Thank you, come on down, ma'am.

[18:44] Sharon Cruz, normally I would say...

[18:45] Could you spell it for the right time?

[18:47] Sorry, CRU, ISE.

[18:49] Thank you.

[18:50] Normally I'd say good morning, however, this is not a good morning for the residents.

[18:54] Yes, today, as you all know, the Department of Environmental Protection,

[18:57] granted many ways there are permit to function here.

[19:01] So I employ all of you.

[19:04] To keep the residents of Perumps safe by taking immediate action to stop many ways

[19:09] operating in downtown. The action of him's up is outrageous. It's an outrageous disregard for the

[19:16] safety and well-being of those of us living in Perum.

[19:20] They will send daily. Multiple 53-foot

[19:25] tractor trailers with toxic medical ways from California traveling on out two major roadways,

[19:32] Route 372, with two roundabouts, and Route 160, which is a center of town.

[19:39] Not if, but when there is an accident causing toxic medical waste to spill on our roadways,

[19:44] it will shut out town down causing catastrophic damage to the health and safety of the

[20:00] The infection viruses, like HIV, hepatitis B and C, exposing pathogens that are airborne, that lead to severe

[20:09] outbreaks of tuberculosis, gastrointestinal infections, and respiratory illnesses. Not to mention

[20:16] the contamination of basin 162, our only source of water. Due to untreated pharmaceuticals,

[20:25] But Bob has its enchemical solvents rapidly, leaching downward, resulting in our entire water

[20:32] infrastructure being permanently corrupted.

[20:36] Why achieve fluids has already stated that his department does not have the capacity to handle

[20:41] a hazardous water spill.

[20:44] By the way, the additional.

[20:46] Thank you very much, ma'am.

[20:47] That's okay.

[20:47] I'll leave the rest for.

[20:49] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[20:51] You can leave it with serene if you'd like.

[20:53] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[20:55] Please, please, speak and follow your name for the record.

[21:01] Good morning, Commissioner.

[21:02] We're rain, GIO, BETRT.

[21:05] Once again, I am sorry I'm not there in purchase.

[21:09] I am sending you good energy.

[21:13] So I would acknowledge to make decisions that matter

[21:17] and make a difference on behalf of those that you represent.

[21:21] I would also just ask you to please not forget those that have been forgotten for the last

[21:29] 50 years.

[21:30] The utility challenge was owners.

[21:32] Some of you will be leaving this board of county commissioners at the end of this year,

[21:38] let that be your legacy that you finally brought, rest of the tuition and piece.

[21:43] and restored value. I know that the Alumni Regional Planning Commission was working on

[21:52] a off-grid overlay. I would encourage you to continue to work with them. It does matter,

[21:59] and it makes a difference to 7,000 lives. In addition, the meta-waste, I am just a call.

[22:08] How that was brought forward when I was at that meeting at treasures and it was overwhelming the number of people that said no

[22:19] I'm not saying that medical waste isn't needed but not in the location where is it going in

[22:27] I do not want to drive my car to EMB to renew my text to have to breathe in that stuff

[22:35] I don't want to shop at Albert since just down the street and it has to breathe at in.

[22:41] I don't want to go to one of my favorite restaurants or cafes or visits shops that I

[22:48] shop in that area. It is just not a safe venture for us and I would hope that you would use your

[22:56] and your authority to whipper that decision by on those permits.

[23:04] And again, Mr. Lorraine, I ask you.

[23:07] Come on down, Diane.

[23:12] Diane Saltooth, S.O.U.U.T.H. W.O.R.T.H.

[23:17] For a little levity, I saw on Facebook,

[23:20] where we want to make September 25th,

[23:22] the party day.

[23:24] And I think it's a great idea.

[23:26] And of course the reason is the date, nine, two, five.

[23:32] Now, also I'd like to bring up, that's my good news.

[23:37] The bad news is that the executive or the president is putting

[23:40] out voting about vote by mail and the Save Act are unconstitutional.

[23:46] It is up to the states to do their elections.

[23:50] And these are unconstitutional rules.

[23:52] I have set hair many times and listen to people wave their

[23:56] constitutions around over other things I'd like to see them get out of that one.

[24:01] Thank you.

[24:02] Thank you, Diane.

[24:03] Sam anybody on the phone please?

[24:06] Yes, Chair.

[24:07] The caller is unmuted.

[24:08] Please speak in spelling your name for the record.

[24:14] Yes, Kimbo.

[24:15] The OHA in an OM.

[24:18] I'm concerned that there seems to be a reducing or cut back a public comment.

[24:25] There's a couple of situations on today that there will be a cutback of public comment and some not allowed.

[24:34] So, you know, the people need to be able to have voice.

[24:39] Even if it seems trivial, even if it seems all face, we have to have a voice.

[24:45] And that's where we come on.

[24:47] Candidates?

[24:48] Pay attention to it.

[24:49] Thank you.

[24:50] Thank you.

[24:51] Come on down.

[24:52] Please improve.

[24:55] They're a lackey L.A.C.K.E.Y.

[24:58] The problem that we have here that you can...

[25:00] Guys, it's the manufactured homes. The people that live in the manufactured homes, that's your problem.

[25:07] See, they're not that tax, you know, not like the big houses with a ceramic tile roof in the block walls.

[25:16] And they're going to be tax forever, every single thing. But there also also other developments are all on an infrastructure, so that it could be easily piped in from water from, say,

[25:26] Cart County or something like that later on after our water's bad gone dead

[25:32] Kill in everybody

[25:34] From your waist the stuff that you're bringing in you're bringing it in and you're trying to chase out the people

[25:39] It don't have a lot of money. That's what it is. I mean, it's all about the money

[25:44] Your whole lives are just

[25:46] leasing off other people working for government not doing anything good just bringing in more bad

[25:53] taking the money from the bad elements and just producing it, whatever, whatever trickles

[25:58] down from above, nothing having to do with the people. And God, we trust, right? Behind

[26:03] you, good thing it's behind you. Something would fall on your head. If you were facing

[26:09] up, freeze all day. But, you know, here we are. You know, it's all about the water. So now

[26:13] once the water's bad, all the money making properties for you guys are all going to be easily

[26:19] fed from a pipe from somewhere else because they're already tied together. They're already

[26:23] system. You know that. That's where you got them come together. You don't see them all spread out.

[26:30] Once in a while, you'll see another development, well, like the one right behind. Well, it's all about

[26:34] the water. Well, for you guys, all about getting the people on here living, man, you've fashioned homes.

[26:42] I think that's what you're mission is pretty clear. How much money you got to put one of those

[26:47] properties, got to mean you've fashioned home on some sort. You don't get much tax money for those

[26:53] properties as you do for the ones with the block walls.

[26:56] Thanks, girl.

[26:57] Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[27:01] Yes, Chair.

[27:01] The caller is unmuted.

[27:03] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[27:06] Um, excuse me.

[27:08] All right.

[27:09] She can leave.

[27:17] And, Chair, the caller is not unmuted.

[27:19] I'm having a system issue.

[27:21] Oh.

[27:21] Okay.

[27:22] Come on down, please.

[27:23] Thank you.

[27:26] Good morning.

[27:27] Commissioners.

[27:28] My name is Mary Rose.

[27:30] Last name is Parkman.

[27:31] Spelled.

[27:32] AARK and AN. It's a little bit of a tough act to follow, so let me start off with something.

[27:42] There's a Greek philosopher that once said,

[27:44] we have two ears and one mouth. That means to please listen twice as much as we speak.

[27:52] And ironically, here I am speaking, but I'm asking you to listen, please,

[27:58] And my concern is I understand in the instances of August 18 when there were 203 comments between in-person and calls.

[28:10] And I know that there's a budget expectation when that many more calls come in.

[28:16] But why is it necessary for the BOCC to announce two minutes or so into the start of a meeting?

[28:24] or maybe 10.05 a.m. that the comments are reduced to two minutes when you can tell, we don't

[28:32] have 200 people think at capacity so that is a concern. As to meta waste, I don't need to repeat

[28:40] too much, but I would implore the community and B.O.C.C to reach out to assembly Manhattan.

[28:48] but I've been told this is a state issue, not a county issue, which I entirely disagree.

[28:55] So I think we need to do the same as there were 300 people at the Treasures Town Hall,

[29:02] which was a very big appeal to Nevada Department of Environmental Protection.

[29:08] So for those reasons, I appreciate you listening twice as much, even though I'm speaking with one

[29:13] I represent a lot of others. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am.

[29:18] Same to anybody on the phone, please.

[29:21] I'm still out of basis.

[29:22] Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead, um, in-for-um, please.

[29:28] Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON.

[29:31] I was a little late coming in, so I was not aware of the two-minute reduction again.

[29:36] I don't know what the excuse can be for that, but this time,

[29:40] besides, you guys trying to silence us even more.

[29:43] Starting with that, again, I'm requesting, or Mrs. Strickling, to be cuter-solve,

[29:47] from any and all matters regarding utility companies or data centers.

[29:52] Next, the Medi-Baste.

[29:56] How in the world did the planning commission?

[30:00] Basically, get media-based, a blank check to build whatever they wanted on that site. No inquisition on to what it's

[30:09] entailed, what hazards could be, nothing. And then this board decided it wasn't worth them to review

[30:16] or even to vote on. How is that possible?

[30:23] I like an answer on that one, because now we're screwed,

[30:27] But you guys already knew this because that's the way that's the reason you did it that way now

[30:32] It's in the Nevada State Environmental Agency that's trying to get their lawyers to fight our fight for us

[30:40] This is the most incomprehensible I've ever seen and for what you guys get paid and my apologies last time I spoke I said 260,000

[30:49] Mr. Wagner. I was wrong. It's 316,000 that you earn a year. So laugh at me now

[30:55] laugh at me now I

[30:57] like we spend over, we spend $64 million in county payroll.

[31:04] But yet we brought in 57.7 million,

[31:06] explained that to me.

[31:08] And then we have things like the splash pad,

[31:12] and Mrs. Strickland here's gonna sit here

[31:13] and praise Jimmy Martinez for the work done.

[31:17] Are you kidding me?

[31:18] I like to know who on here is qualified

[31:20] to even look at a blueprint.

[31:23] Apparently nobody, you guys can't even do so much

[31:27] apply a splash pad right let alone something like the data center other than many ways

[31:31] same anybody on the phone now please yes to the colors are muted please speak

[31:35] and spell your name for the record

[31:39] yes I'm Martin and M.O.R. T.I.N. S.O.L.A.

[31:43] and first of all I said I can say that John Coling on the wonderful job he did

[31:48] is good in the meeting a couple meetings pass it went very very smoothly you know

[31:53] if he had John Coling during the meetings maybe he wouldn't feel the need to

[32:04] Thank you.

[32:05] Thank you.

[32:15] Good morning.

[32:18] I don't want to cast any dispersions, but before I get started, and you please spell your name

[32:22] for the record, sir.

[32:24] Oh, I haven't started yet.

[32:27] I just want to do an insertion before I get started.

[32:29] No, no, that's not your starting.

[32:31] This means the rules on me, but anyway, my name is on for hard, and greetings, I'm a patriot, and a God is my shepherd.

[32:44] Media is not a friend of the public at large.

[32:48] I am amazed at the lack of empathy and concern for each and every human being on the planet,

[32:58] regardless of their status, where is the crowd now, where are the Christian people,

[33:05] where is their mercy and feelings for other human beings, where are they, first I ask the

[33:13] question, when something goes wrong, when is the leadership, protect and serve, what does

[33:21] that mean? Are they just words? Are they just pertain to one segment of the population?

[33:29] Where are you finding these people to serve in low enforcement? Are they high-calibu?

[33:35] Are they just a body and a uniform? Are they really trained to work with the public?

[33:41] I hear often times with their own regime, they have personnel to conflict.

[33:48] In this area, we need good leaders and good people in that job that really protect and

[33:55] serve.

[33:55] I was motivated by the newspaper.

[33:58] It reminded how blacks, so I'm from that era, were treated in Mississippi by law enforcement

[34:06] and the sixties. This must stop all the soccer continues. We must find we must have

[34:13] and well-trained people in these jobs. Thank you. It also have patience. Thank you, sir.

[34:24] Mr. Hodges, can we have can we have that rent for our records, please? Can you provide? Can you give

[34:31] that staff so we can have it for our records? Please, she can give it to someone. Thank you.

[34:37] Amy, you got anybody on the phone, please?

[34:44] Right.

[34:44] All right.

[34:46] Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[34:47] No chair.

[34:48] Come on up, please.

[34:58] I can go.

[34:58] Yes.

[35:00] I'm in the Clark, CLE, R.K. First of all,

[35:06] I won't say it. I want to thank Ian for giving us the ban.

[35:13] Not sure how far we're going to get with it, but at least we got something to start with and work with, as far as the other thing is going on in this town. Definitely don't need a way center. We don't need a glove factory.

[35:32] We don't need a lot of things that you guys have put in front of us, but we keep getting it.

[35:37] We keep fighting. I just want to let you know elections do have consequences, so be prepared.

[35:45] The other thing I want to say is it's really embarrassing to live in this community and know

[35:50] that we have a government that doesn't support its people. Thank you.

[35:55] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

[35:56] I don't know why the screen is going on.

[35:59] No chair.

[36:00] Come on up, sir.

[36:03] Don't know why you do hear us.

[36:06] Okay.

[36:07] Yes, we hear you a lot.

[36:09] Well, thank you.

[36:11] Go ahead, sir.

[36:12] Good morning, everyone.

[36:13] Bruce Johnson, GOHN, SLN.

[36:15] And first of all, I'm going to question your authority

[36:18] to remove this lady.

[36:20] I'm going to question your authority on your action.

[36:23] So I'm going to start off with a little scripture here.

[36:26] And this is a Luke Lemp 52, especially since we probably have a couple attorneys out here in the seats.

[36:35] And it says, well, until you lawyers, for you have taken away the key in knowledge,

[36:39] you entered not into yourselves, and now that we're entering any ye, entered.

[36:47] Now, I'm going to move on to, you guys, received a new notice from me this morning should be in your inbox.

[36:55] I don't know if you took the time to read it or not, but it's only one page pretty simple and you probably don't give a rat's booty

[37:00] But I really don't care because it's my quarter record

[37:04] So this is tall of you including breadwagon or Susan Ryan Hall Susan Steve Osborne

[37:11] Camerada, sure of Joe McGill

[37:15] It's also addressed as a stream court and Tom Blanch, Donald Trump and and I'll tell you you sit there and roll your eyes

[37:22] They already have a copy of this, so

[37:26] Notice, and this is a notice in demand for liability, all attorneys,

[37:31] advising upon the rights of the people.

[37:35] Notice pages, notice principle, notice principles, notice page and diverse shots.

[37:39] One of the people has seen in 50 state constitutions of right, neck-sizing power over all jurisdictions.

[37:47] And include you.

[37:49] Do you present you with this notice that you and your agents may provide immediate, clear, please take notice?

[37:55] We, the people, have assembled and realized that as servants, that you guys may have attorneys who

[38:03] advise you on what you can do in regards to unconstitutionalizing power over the people.

[38:10] However, as servants, it is you who put out, thank you sir.

[38:15] Action.

[38:15] Do we not go down the phone?

[38:16] That's all right.

[38:17] I'll have a safer copy here.

[38:19] Come on up in Perum, please.

[38:26] Anthony Greco, GRECO.

[38:28] as a chair for the Nike County Independent American Party for Nike County and the National Committee for the Constitution Party.

[38:39] On September 17th, we are having a Constitution dinner celebrating George Washington.

[38:45] Speakers will be telling us about our constitutional civil and our property rights.

[38:52] And we're going to be having some speakers who've been extorted by some people in the community.

[38:56] So, that will be at Treasures at 6 o'clock at night on September 17th, Constitution Day.

[39:02] Take it to our available, 877 Parompas, the phone number.

[39:09] Thank you, Sam, anybody in the phone please?

[39:13] No chair.

[39:14] Come on down, Tammy.

[39:19] Good morning.

[39:20] Tammy Pittman, PIT, M-A-N.

[39:24] Metaways is going to come back to the Board of County Commissioner.

[39:27] It's just because N-depth gave them a pass, does not mean

[39:31] the Parompas to approve.

[39:32] Several months ago, the BOCC directed Mr. Osborne to give regular planning and permit status updates at the BOCC meetings.

[39:41] We've not heard from Mr. Osborne since, but the citizens should know there are good news on the horizon.

[39:47] Recently, I learned that Kobe, manufacturing is slating to plant here at the home, behind Home Depot.

[39:53] not far from there at the old racetrack is a non-savagus company that manufactures building

[39:58] crosses which is

[40:00] Move its operations to perform. A large plumbing supply company and a's hardware owner are renting the good old good

[40:07] wheel building for two years to house both a plumbing supply company and a's hardware while they build their own facility here in town.

[40:15] And the silver tennis still in the hopper as well. We have lots to celebrate. We do not need to be a toxic waste repository for the southwest.

[40:25] We have a lot to offer, and we deserve better than to live in a toxic soup.

[40:30] As we live in a valley surrounded by 360 degrees of mountains, the toxic gases released

[40:37] when they opened those ovens would hang in the valley.

[40:41] Later this month, due to a hard fought appeal, thank you to John O'Brien.

[40:46] You will have the ability to reverse the RPC's decision, and we are counting on you.

[40:52] Thank you.

[40:53] Thank you, Sarah, everybody on the phone, please.

[40:57] That's chair.

[40:57] The caller is unmuted.

[40:58] Please speak in the spoken name for the record.

[41:03] Hello, commissioners.

[41:04] Michael David Garcia, a GARC.

[41:07] Can you hear me?

[41:08] My tone and volume.

[41:09] Okay, for you.

[41:12] I'm sorry.

[41:13] Go answer.

[41:13] Hello.

[41:17] Hello.

[41:18] Can you hear me?

[41:19] Go ahead, sir.

[41:21] Oh, thank you.

[41:22] Thank you.

[41:22] I appreciate it.

[41:24] That'd be Michael David Garcia, a GARC.

[41:27] And once again, I'm still baffled on my free speech and what's protected here.

[41:35] So if it's state and federal guidelines that I'm not allowed to talk about, I respectfully ask

[41:41] for you to ask for you all to remove those flags, if I'm not allowed to pray and quote

[41:46] scripture, I'm going to respectfully ask for you to put that sign down in God we trust.

[41:53] And when it comes to product stores in an official oppression, and just want to remind

[41:58] all you all, when it comes to USC title, 18 subsection, 6, 6, 6, 6, kind of a quinky

[42:06] didn't come.

[42:08] And you all know what that is?

[42:10] I'm sure you haven't had any training, but anyway, that's a set of federal programs.

[42:15] and may y'all fall in your own traps, great job, Mr. Hodges, Bruce Johnson, Rekko, Verizon.

[42:26] The true Christians don't have to be asked, who shall I send?

[42:30] They already know.

[42:32] And for all my state and federal representatives, I want you to take note of Deborah Strickland.

[42:38] When it comes to women speaking out against the Epstein, I'm not allowed to talk about him.

[42:44] We're seconded, she forbids it, she violated my first amendment.

[42:50] Take note, women, daughters, sisters, mothers, grandmothers, who's protecting who?

[42:59] The ALJ's number one asset, it's not just Captain Berkowitz, thank you.

[43:07] Good

[43:12] morning, Darrell Witt, W.A.D.

[43:16] I just want to thank you all for being here, of crowd today.

[43:20] Have a good day.

[43:21] Thank you.

[43:22] Sam, anybody else on the phone, please?

[43:26] Yes, Chair, the color is unmuted.

[43:28] Please, speak of the spoken name for the record.

[43:33] In a bond to coogling, KUG, L.I. and.

[43:38] As you are aware, well, aware I have an attendance.

[43:41] I'm meeting in a long time publicly because my life is in danger when I'm there.

[43:46] But I'm actually surprised that how many of the public

[43:49] has not stood up to you guys and stopped you from changing policy procedure and protocol

[43:56] that is already in your books.

[44:00] That is your supposed to be following.

[44:02] Joe McGill has no authority in those chambers.

[44:06] Those chambers belong to the public.

[44:08] And I'm surprised that the public that is in that room right now is allowing this to go on.

[44:16] This calls for a class action lawsuit, which I believe is already in the works against some of the commissioners.

[44:24] I understand that the two of you have lost and you don't care about your behavior or your community anymore,

[44:30] but the disrespect and the disregard to the public to some of the women the way you speak to them wrong.

[44:38] You should be ashamed of yourself because I know if I was in that chamber and you spoke to me the way you do.

[44:43] I wouldn't stand for it. You have no authority to remove anybody from those chambers.

[44:48] Those chambers don't belong to you. They belong to the public.

[44:52] You guys are leasing those buildings to use them.

[44:56] And I cannot stab them. Why no one else is not.

[45:00] Any time you tell the sheriff to remove somebody from those chambers. When you practice the first amendment, make sure it's followed by the second and then covered by the fifth. Thank you.

[45:14] Thank you. Come on down, Dwight.

[45:21] Thank you. Good morning, Dwight Lily. I'm here to speak out against flock cameras and surveillance systems that we see all across the land right now.

[45:32] and I've done some research on this, and from the flock companies perspective,

[45:38] well we're just reading ISIS plates and the information disappears after a few minutes.

[45:43] But this is not true.

[45:45] There are cases, example, in Kentucky, of a law enforcement officer, using the flock camera system to scope out his former girlfriend,

[45:55] 2000 times using the system to track her, where she was going, what's she was doing? And this

[46:02] is a complete violation of our fourth amendment when you're using a system like that. As I understand

[46:08] we have one set of flood cameras here in front, I'd like to see a band completely. I don't think

[46:15] we could trust the system in place here, be it law enforcement, be the government itself,

[46:20] to have a flux system, type, camera system, surveillance system that could infringe upon.

[46:27] People here be used for in a various reasons that they weren't designed for.

[46:32] Thank you.

[46:33] Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone please?

[46:36] No chair.

[46:37] No chair?

[46:37] No chair on Mr. Limis.

[46:44] I think your button's not on there, buddy.

[46:46] Right there, there we go.

[46:47] Mike, check one, two, one, two.

[46:50] Paul, Limis, LEM, U.S.

[46:53] And I'm going to run into a Mark 7 quote that came to mind when all this was going on.

[47:01] We're out in the Amargosa Valley area, just a little ways further from you here, and we

[47:07] own land there that's backed up to the Ashmetos property.

[47:10] So today I wanted to just read you real quick.

[47:13] This is by the way, brought to you from the businessman global businessman fellowship group.

[47:18] They have asked me personally to read this.

[47:21] And this Bible, I'm reading from today, is Mr. Jim Marshall, the casino owner's personal

[47:26] Bible that he has lent me to read today, just so that it's on the record.

[47:31] For they all saw him

[47:36] and were terrified, but immediately he spoke with them and said to them,

[47:42] take courage, it is I, do not be afraid, then he got into the boat with them and the wind

[47:51] stopped, and they were utterly astonished. So that's kind of a unique Bible verse to me

[48:01] because it's the accepting of the God is within all of us. It's all of our job to make

[48:08] this stuff right. And these folks are given the tool of this board and local ordinances

[48:12] up to this point. What we're infringing on now is a new beginning of changes. We're having

[48:19] states attack town cities. It's a very unique time, but to disregard their power and all the

[48:27] work that they've done in a county to build up this system for all of us would only weaken us.

[48:33] I know it gets frustrating and sometimes we just want to, you know, kill the messenger.

[48:38] But the messenger is only part of the big picture. We need to make sure that we all consider

[48:44] state is who's attacking us. Thank you. Thank you, Paul. Sam anybody on the phone please.

[48:50] No chair.

[48:51] Come on down, Deborah.

[48:57] Deborah Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S.

[49:03] I sometimes, there are agenda items in front of this committee and other committees that

[49:14] little, the little breakout groups. I don't want to call them breakout groups, but

[49:19] there, I don't know what you call. But, for instance, the finance committee, and I think

[49:33] that it would be very helpful to the public if we saw the numbers as well. And I also

[49:40] think it would be very helpful to the public if we had a clue what was going to be

[49:47] talked about so we could do some research on it. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Thank you.

[49:54] Thank you. Come on down, Gerald.

[50:00] In one commissioner's Gerald Schulti, SCH, ULTE. I know many by my tongue on a lot of things, but I heard Mr. Lackey get up here and talk some stupid shit.

[50:15] Mr. Lackey, this town has an majority of manufactured homes in over the last 20 years. They are converted to real property and they generate a minimum of $2,000 per parcel.

[50:28] per home in this town. You're living in the old and days when you live in that

[50:33] travel trader on that little lot that you still live on occasionally and

[50:37] you have no idea what you're talking about again when you come up to this

[50:41] microphone. So I just want to correct what you said. Manufactured home owners pay

[50:48] just as much property tax as any stick belt value per value. Thank you very much

[50:56] I appreciate logic. Come on down, ma'am.

[51:05] First of all, good morning commissioners.

[51:10] I hear everybody talking.

[51:12] Sorry, just well up for the record.

[51:13] But I don't have any questions.

[51:16] Thank you.

[51:18] The Medi-Waste.

[51:21] I'm not really familiar.

[51:22] I've just recently started coming to these meetings.

[51:25] And I would think from listening to everybody that people who have breathing issues.

[51:33] I mean, you know, there's a lot of seniors and a lot of them have breathing issues.

[51:41] And we already know the dust here is very bad.

[51:44] And people, even children, that are warned to stay in the homes when we have high winds.

[51:51] So I would think that that would the many ways facility would basically affect all of them also.

[52:01] So I just hope you guys take this into effect that we just don't need something like that here.

[52:08] We're trying to better this place but not make it a city.

[52:13] We want to keep it rural and all of your decisions you make.

[52:18] I hope you keep that in consideration rural Nevada.

[52:24] We don't want to miss Skeet, we don't want to lost Vegas.

[52:29] So, anyway, thank you.

[52:31] Thank you.

[52:32] Same anybody on the phone please.

[52:34] No chair.

[52:35] All right, seeing none and we're going to close up public comment.

[52:38] Unless there's someone in ton of power screens not on up there guys.

[52:43] There it is.

[52:45] All right, we're going to close that out.

[52:46] move to number three please.

[52:50] Item three, Commissioner Manager comments, the

[52:53] site is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments,

[52:58] correction of factual inaccuracies, correction of staff or topics proposed for

[53:03] future board meetings, lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is

[53:08] prohibited by the Nevada Open Meeting Law. Thank you for the share

[53:16] if you're

[53:22] directly directed at the commissioners and Mr. Koonsi. I would like confirmation, Mr. Koonsi,

[53:31] that NRS 203.090, disturbing a meeting,

[53:37] and 203.030, provoking a commission of breach of peace,

[53:45] would apply to these meetings and give us the authority to take action and remove an individual

[53:52] of past two. If you need to take some time to look at those, just get back to me, please.

[53:59] If that is the case, it might be time that more severe action gets taken in one of these meetings.

[54:08] They aren't here.

[54:10] Also, in the very first thing, front of the agenda, it states all this.

[54:16] We're allowed to change the time.

[54:19] It's up to this board to conduct this meeting.

[54:22] We're here to do the business of the people.

[54:24] But we have to do the business of the people.

[54:25] It was something immediately comes to my attention.

[54:29] I try not to step online or immediately address it.

[54:35] I try to defer to the board, if a board member asks me to remove an individual, I verify that, and then I do.

[54:46] I appreciate that.

[54:47] Thank you, Chair.

[54:48] Thank you, Chair.

[54:49] Thank you.

[54:49] Help here.

[54:51] Commissioner Bane, you got anything?

[54:54] I'm going to start your board.

[54:56] Thank you, Chair.

[54:57] Good morning, everybody.

[55:00] I would like to own in and specifically address the met-a-waste concern, very, very legitimate concern.

[55:11] What a coincidence. We have coming up for October 6th, where District Attorney Cunzi and myself, Commissioner Jobore, we have a public hearing, time and date set.

[55:33] And then the public hearing will be on the second meeting of October, October 20th.

[55:41] Please keep in mind that, yes, as I mentioned, the Queensland's end up did give and post to notice.

[55:51] And on that notice, it's specifically reads that they're deadline to receive.

[55:56] and there is a special form, a special form to fill out, go to their link. But their deadline

[56:04] is September 10th. Excuse me. September 10th is their deadline. So try to get in. Those responses

[56:12] is quickly as possible. So we don't miss that September 10th deadline. Also, we do have a

[56:19] the ordinance that that's nice that the state end up as opposed to this notice, but

[56:28] the county, we do have a requirement and an ordinance for to issue a special permit within

[56:38] our county for such a such a project of this magnitude. So very important, I appreciate all

[56:45] your concern and your feedback, but we've been working on this and you will be very, very

[56:51] surprised as to the information that comes forward.

[56:57] Thank you again for being here and turn back over to you, Chair.

[57:01] Thank you, Commissioner Strickland.

[57:04] I reiterated with Commissioner DeBore, that was well done so that people were reminded that

[57:09] can reach out and make common against the end-depth decision, and what our future looks

[57:16] like for hearing this as a board.

[57:18] Thank you.

[57:18] Thank you, Commissioner Coneck.

[57:23] A briefly mentioned many ways, and the fact remains that before they can operate, they

[57:30] need to permit for musts, so there you go.

[57:34] And it's the opinion of the district attorney that we come up with a specific ordinance banning

[57:42] any importation of medical waste into this county from another state, so we'll be looking at that.

[57:52] Now, that being said, it's time.

[57:58] John's got a new toy.

[58:04] This isn't working now.

[58:08] We'll be using this in further meetings.

[58:10] I'm not using it today because the numbers on the far right there,

[58:17] They just, I can't stand looking at them

[58:20] blinking so quickly.

[58:21] So they're going to black that out for me somehow.

[58:26] But instead of using this, that you have no idea

[58:29] how much time you have left, and you probably can't even

[58:33] hear a go ding ding ding ding.

[58:34] When your time is up, this will do it.

[58:37] And it also supposedly makes a noise when your time is up.

[58:42] So get used to this.

[58:43] I asked for, I don't know, several months ago,

[58:46] because some members of the public had asked about it.

[58:50] So we asked and we have it now.

[58:56] So magic.

[58:58] That's all I have. Thank you.

[59:00] Thanks, Commissioner.

[59:02] OK, so I just have a couple of quick things.

[59:05] Somebody had mentioned water.

[59:06] They mentioned everybody mentioned water all the time.

[59:10] And the reason for that is because you'll

[59:12] hear stories of some wells going dry,

[59:15] some wells having to be punched deeper.

[59:17] And then you'll hear other stories of wells are teething in different areas of the town.

[59:23] We have not had a water study in 20 years, I believe, 20 years.

[59:31] So I had mentioned Bakersfield had done a Lidar study where they fly over and they basically

[59:39] radar down into the ground.

[59:40] They know how much water there is there.

[59:43] I mentioned that to some members of the water board and they're like, well, you know,

[59:46] those aren't tunnel, that's reliable and so the bottom line and the end of it really is

[59:54] none of us at this point really know where we are on water. We're all in that same boat.

[1:00:00] So none of us want to go dry. I mean, I've got land that I don't want it to be useless either. So there's that. So the study should be coming eventually.

[1:00:10] It's here, and the sooner the better, I was told it would be this year, but so there's that. Secondly, I also mentioned at our last meeting, from a position of we're all residents here, we're probably all property owners and none of us want to be heard.

[1:00:29] anymore. I mean, I was affected deeply by the 1293 order several years ago, made property

[1:00:37] I had overnight, just worthless.

[1:00:42] But which got upheld by the friggin Supreme Court, but

[1:00:47] anyway.

[1:00:50] So I mentioned last meeting that regarding the data center, and I'm not. If I didn't

[1:00:58] I don't like that location for the data center, but I'm not opposed to data centers somewhere

[1:01:03] out, out, away, where they're not going to harm my time now, Joan.

[1:01:13] But so I mentioned, I mentioned that we're in this together and we need to be very careful

[1:01:18] because people in Clark and in the state have told me, well, you know, we don't really

[1:01:23] give a damn what Nike County says because we're going to do what we want to do on the Clark

[1:01:28] And I think they can fight us and they may think that they can do this and that, but we have unlimited resources to fight them until they're broke.

[1:01:38] Two days after our last meeting, when I brought this up to all of us here, a different company, other than the one that was proposing to come here on Mance, a different company applied with the BLM for a thousand acre data project, just on the Clark side.

[1:01:56] using the same damn basin, so, and if that were ever to be approved or moved forward,

[1:02:04] Clark gets any benefit there would be, and they still suck the water right out of 162,

[1:02:10] which, again, we don't know how much is there. So, it's just, I mean, we don't always

[1:02:15] have to agree on everything, and you don't even like each other, not, but we are here together.

[1:02:20] So we better be figuring something out and that's all I got managers directors anybody

[1:02:30] Yeah, you want to be brick

[1:02:33] Chair I have the clerk. Oh go ahead and tell the ladies first. I appreciate that chair

[1:02:41] I just wanted to throw out a couple of members. We have 46 days until early voting

[1:02:46] We are there. We are getting ready to start our mail and ballots

[1:02:50] Speaking of mail and ballots, you guys have until September 4th, if you do not want a ballot.

[1:02:57] Please go to my office, there are on the website, there are on the states website, the form.

[1:03:02] If we were seen by the fourth, then we will not have to mail them, that's the only way.

[1:03:06] We cannot mail 37,000 ballots.

[1:03:10] If you've already done it, we have it, but if you have it, and you are one who wants to vote in person.

[1:03:15] swing by either one of the offices to get online and pick that up for me and I think that's it. Thanks.

[1:03:22] Thanks, Corey. Nice to see you going at Arnold.

[1:03:26] Good morning. My name is Arnold Knightley.

[1:03:29] I'm the Public Communications Manager for Night County.

[1:03:33] I want to correct this statement made at the last meeting regarding the county's handling of public records requests.

[1:03:38] The sheriff stated, and I quote, as a point in comparison, the county has three people who do public records requests.

[1:03:44] and she does three times as many, more.

[1:03:48] She does more by herself than three people do for this county, in quote.

[1:03:54] The primary correction is the assertion that the county has three people handling public

[1:03:57] registered requests.

[1:03:58] This is not accurate.

[1:04:00] The county has one public registered administrator.

[1:04:03] The county created the position in 2002 in response to rapidly increasing workload.

[1:04:08] The year before the position was created, the county received 346 public records requests.

[1:04:13] By the end of last year, the number had increased to approximately 1.89% to 1,000, and the work

[1:04:20] load continues to grow.

[1:04:22] Through our August 2026 yesterday, the counties received 772 public records requests, a 15.4%

[1:04:31] increase over the same period last year.

[1:04:34] In August alone, the counties received 131 requests compared with 82 and August 2025,

[1:04:39] increase of nearly 60%. At the current pace, the county is projected to receive approximately

[1:04:45] 1,150 public record requests in 2026. The workload cannot be measured simply by counting the number

[1:04:52] of requests received. August requests alone involve approximately 562 individual documents.

[1:04:58] They're currently...

[1:05:00] 26 open record requests, including 16 that involve reviewing e-mails.

[1:05:05] Actually, 42 requests during 26 every required e-mail review, and one current request alone involves

[1:05:13] reviewing more than 4,000 e-mails. Individual requestors can also significantly impact the

[1:05:19] workload. Since April, one requestor has submitted 32 public records requests, nine of which

[1:05:25] remain open. These figures demonstrate a substantial and growing public records workload for the county's

[1:05:31] one person. Meaningful comparisons should be based on documented request volumes, the number

[1:05:37] of complexity records being sought, and the time required to locate, review, redact, and produce

[1:05:42] for responsive records. This is not intended to dispute or diminish the workload being experienced

[1:05:48] by the sheriff's office. We have a great relationship with the records person and work together

[1:05:53] often. She does a great job, particularly in an era where social media and increased public

[1:05:58] attention can generate significant demand in records. And oftentimes those records are used

[1:06:03] for clicks. It's intent to correct the record regarding county staffing and provide an accurate

[1:06:09] picture of the challenges the county faces in responding to public records requests.

[1:06:15] Thank you, Honorable. I need you to spoil your name for the record.

[1:06:20] Finally, K&I, D-H-T-L-I.

[1:06:23] Thank you.

[1:06:25] Come on up, Tammy.

[1:06:34] Good morning, commissioners.

[1:06:37] Tammy Engel, E-N-G-E-L.

[1:06:40] First of all, I need to say hi, Erica.

[1:06:42] And then I wanted to bring to your attention that the E-Surf's Office is hosting along

[1:06:49] with Vitalent, a badge of honor blood drive on September 10th and 11th.

[1:06:55] on the 10th it is from 9 to 3 and on the 11th it will be from noon to 6 and this is at the

[1:07:03] prompt nugget and we hope that you will stop by and donate some much-needed blood for our area.

[1:07:12] Thank you. Thank you. Come on up, Chief.

[1:07:19] Morning Commissioner Scott Lewis,

[1:07:20] LEWS, town of Prone Fire Chief. I want to remind everyone that the burn moratorium remains in place.

[1:07:26] We have heard it in the air disaster again yesterday and wind-driven conditions high fuel loads with an unauthorized control burn on the property in the south end of Valley.

[1:07:37] That burn impact is three other properties including one property that had a lot of material stored on including vehicles.

[1:07:46] So we're reminding everyone to lease November 1st. No burning. Thank you.

[1:07:52] Thanks, Chief.

[1:07:53] Sam any managers or directors on the phone, please?

[1:07:55] Okay.

[1:07:56] All right.

[1:07:56] We're going to close that out and move to, uh, we'll do four and five and then take

[1:08:01] a break.

[1:08:02] Four, please.

[1:08:04] Item four approval of the agenda for September 1st, 2026.

[1:08:09] We are going to be pulling in consent items, 11.3A, but we will still consider B.

[1:08:20] and also pulling item five emergency items.

[1:08:25] All right, thank you for that.

[1:08:28] Okay, let's take a 10 minute potty break.

[1:08:54] You ready into an approach?

[1:08:55] All right, we're ready when you guys are.

[1:09:09] Okay.

[1:09:10] Indeed.

[1:09:27] Good.

[1:09:34] All right, we're ready, manager number six, please.

[1:09:39] Item six, 10 a.m. time item for possible action.

[1:09:42] Sir, Sir, Sir, Mr. Hodge.

[1:09:48] Mr. Hodge?

[1:09:50] Go ahead, madam.

[1:09:52] Ten a.m. time to item for possible action public hearing discussion and deliberation to adopt a men and adopt a reject mic.

[1:10:00] County bill number 2026-12. A bill proposing to a men-night county code title 17. Comprehensive land use planning and zoning by a men in chapter 17.10 entitled from regional planning district, relating to section 17.04 110 definitions by adding the definition of a dwelling unit.

[1:10:25] ADU, amending the definition of dwelling, or dwelling unit, by removing or dwelling unit,

[1:10:32] amending section 17.04.210, RH9.5, rural homestead residential section 17.04.25,

[1:10:45] Our H4.5 roll homestead residential section 17.04.220.

[1:10:52] Our E2 roll is state residential 17.04.225.

[1:10:58] Our E1 roll is state residential 17.04.230.

[1:11:04] Suburb in the state's residential section 17.04.240.

[1:11:09] 4-0, VR-20, Village Residential, and 17.04.255 VR-10, Village Residential by adding

[1:11:18] an accessory dwelling units, and standards to permissive uses, and removing mobile homes

[1:11:25] as temporary residences with temporary use permit, and providing for the severability

[1:11:30] constitutionality, and effective date thereof, and other matters, properly relating there

[1:11:36] And I know there's a typo in here's list on the 17.10, I think that should be 17.04 in the agenda item.

[1:11:48] So, just correcting that on the record perfect.

[1:11:51] Good morning, Celeste.

[1:11:53] Celeste.

[1:11:56] Celeste.

[1:11:57] As Brett has stated, we had received an application in and they would like to add the definition of accessory dwelling unit and the applicants are here for any questions if you have anything they are the experts in the manufacturer homes for what they're wanting to add.

[1:12:13] Well, thank you very much for that. So I think what we're going to do is open public comment.

[1:12:17] Go ahead.

[1:12:18] Go ahead.

[1:12:19] You mind if we do a little different hearing ask questions from the applicants.

[1:12:24] Right.

[1:12:26] Could you state your name and spell it for the record?

[1:12:30] Gerald Schulti, SCH, ULTE, Factory Home Center.

[1:12:35] Deletia.

[1:12:36] To wish the ask you, Factory Home Center as well, HASK-EW.

[1:12:41] Excellent.

[1:12:41] So, we evidently have had some holes in our roles that you come up with an idea of how we

[1:12:47] could do a better job when it comes to these ADUs, and I just was wondering if you give

[1:12:51] a little explanation about what those changes are when it comes to kitchens and

[1:12:56] etc.

[1:12:56] Because that's what a base of those is.

[1:12:59] So, well, currently right now, the only thing that we're trying to get changed is any of

[1:13:03] these zones that already allow a site built kacita, which does not have a fully functioning

[1:13:07] kitchen. We're trying to get included in that definition in ADU unit. It's not in addition

[1:13:13] to a casino. We just want to say, okay, if you're going to do a casino, you can also

[1:13:17] do an ADU. Whether that's going to be a site built or manufactured, we want to be included in

[1:13:22] that. Assembly Bill 396 has already been passed and that is in the state of Nevada. They've

[1:13:28] already passed it to where the larger counties in cities already allow for ADU units. Clark County

[1:13:33] is allowed it for years and years and we've done it, for years and years there, they've actually

[1:13:37] even removed the waiver requirements and we don't have to get any type of approvals from

[1:13:43] neighbors or anything like that.

[1:13:45] But it's just something that we want to be included in, because right now you have to have

[1:13:50] a temporary use in order to have a manufacturing home placed on a private piece of property.

[1:13:54] We have to go through all of the permitting, all of the zoning.

[1:13:57] We have to do soils reports.

[1:13:59] We have to do our engineered type 2 pads, our blockwork.

[1:14:02] We have to pay so much money in order to get these homes on these properties, and then it has to be renewed every single year.

[1:14:08] Once that medical need is no longer, they have to remove that home.

[1:14:12] And now, whatever you take into account years on these homes, Clark County, you're only allowed to put a home that six years or newer.

[1:14:19] And a lot of the other jurisdictions have those same type of rules.

[1:14:22] So now, what are these people going to do with these homes whenever they can no longer have them on their pieces of property?

[1:14:27] And people also have a misconception of what brand new manufacturing homes look like.

[1:14:34] There are two by six construction.

[1:14:35] They're built just as well as a site built home.

[1:14:38] You can do it, steer your stucco.

[1:14:40] You can do tile roof if you want.

[1:14:41] You can do metal roofs.

[1:14:43] I have a few pictures of some of our homes that we do have.

[1:14:46] But they've definitely changed over the years.

[1:14:47] That's for sure.

[1:14:50] Thank you, Chair.

[1:14:50] Thank you, Mr. Suleysha.

[1:14:52] And the great thing is they'll be converted to real property

[1:14:56] generate a lot more extra of it now. As we previously did this, yes.

[1:15:00] Sir, we go. The only time that it's not is if somebody is going to do a shadow loan and they have to finance the home only. But once that's paid off, they can then tie it. I've already checked with manufacturer housing division. They said it's a land use thing and it has nothing to do with them. So you can have two homes converted to real property on one site.

[1:15:17] Perfect. Thank you. All right. Let's now open public comment. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[1:15:27] Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[1:15:32] Yes, Amy Nelson, any LSON, I'm not quite sure why they need to have a 2 by 6 manufacturer.

[1:15:44] And I'm really suspect that these will be used in addition to other things that are going on, like the solar farms, they might want to put one out there and so forth.

[1:15:58] And I'm just really suspect to changing our master plan this early in the game.

[1:16:06] I'm really suspect to any of those changes.

[1:16:11] So I hope you really consider what this is going to mean for all of us in the future.

[1:16:16] Thank you.

[1:16:18] Come on down, Bill.

[1:16:23] Best for a 7th bill, RY, S-E-W-I-C-H.

[1:16:29] I'm speaking as a regular citizen that owns a home here in town

[1:16:33] and not an RPC commissioner.

[1:16:37] My issue with this is that we have a mobile home company

[1:16:40] that wants us to change our code so they can sell more homes.

[1:16:45] They want us to be like Las Vegas, Anderson.

[1:16:51] We're a rural small town.

[1:16:53] Why would we put another mobile home on a lot instead of putting a smaller unit that doesn't encompass 30 or 40 feet?

[1:17:08] It just doesn't make sense to me.

[1:17:10] The bottom line that I'm hearing out of all of this, oh, also I think I do know that both of the homes on the property can just be rentals.

[1:17:20] So instead of a being an ADU to help your family or some relative or whatever, they could just

[1:17:29] bring them all out forever, and then what?

[1:17:32] But they want to sell more mobile homes.

[1:17:35] I am not in favor of this for a world.

[1:17:38] We don't want to put all the homes on all the land.

[1:17:42] Can you imagine how that would look?

[1:17:45] Oh my God.

[1:17:46] Anyway, I just am not in favor of this.

[1:17:48] Thank you.

[1:17:49] Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[1:17:53] Yes, Chair, the callaries that muted.

[1:17:55] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[1:18:00] Yes. Can you hear me?

[1:18:03] Yes, ma'am.

[1:18:06] Sorry.

[1:18:07] That's okay.

[1:18:07] I didn't mean to reply.

[1:18:09] Oh, no, I just...

[1:18:10] That's okay.

[1:18:14] It's very isolating, trying to figure out

[1:18:17] if I'm being heard or not on this line.

[1:18:20] I can't see you.

[1:18:22] No, I appreciate it.

[1:18:23] Can you please spell your last name just for the record?

[1:18:28] Yes, my first name is Kapula K.A.P.U.A. I spell it because it's unusual here.

[1:18:35] Johnson is my last name, J.O.H.N.S.O.N.

[1:18:39] I'm calling in because I've been listening to this to come the complete meeting.

[1:18:45] And the irony that I'm hearing is just so strong, because here we are, we have speakers

[1:18:55] who are protesting against manufactured homes.

[1:19:00] This would be people buying one by one by manufacturing homes.

[1:19:05] Yes, we have these huge housing developments that we're not there when I bought my vacant

[1:19:12] land by they get a lot, 40 years ago, and now we have the attempted introduction of the

[1:19:22] data center. Now we're looking at a medical waste dumping site. The irony, because

[1:19:29] between a few people, landowners, getting begging for their utilities to be put in or even

[1:19:38] loud, and yet there's five casinos, a pool, a man-made lake, excuse me, where is the

[1:19:52] or it is the practicality here, and are we supposed to accept that as problems they can allow others to love.

[1:20:01] We're supposed to say, well, that's okay. It's not okay. It is not okay with us. And you have not heard the last of us. We will be at every single meeting until something is done. And this irony, this Blake, thank you.

[1:20:18] Thank you, Pam.

[1:20:19] Chair.

[1:20:19] Oh, yes.

[1:20:20] I believe that Ms. Kapu, I didn't realize that we are on an agenda item.

[1:20:24] This is on that. I think. Yeah. Okay. Sam. Oh, no. Come on down there.

[1:20:33] Thank you commissioners for your time and consideration.

[1:20:36] I strongly support this argument. Can you stop for the record? I'm so sorry. Yeah. I'm sorry. Reggie federal F is in Frank. EDR all. Thank you. Again, thank you commissioners for your time and consideration on this subject. I strongly support the tax amendment 41 and bill 2026 dashed off.

[1:20:56] because it aligns our housing code with existing frameworks while providing our community

[1:21:04] with a practical and lasting option. Small manufacturing homes are currently permitted only

[1:21:11] in circumstances tied to medical necessities. When that condition is, the union must be removed.

[1:21:20] even after residents invest over a hundred to thousands of dollars, you know, for one of these

[1:21:27] manufacturer homes. This creates a financial risk for families and caring for loved ones.

[1:21:32] Bill 2026-12 allows manufacturers homes to remain on residential lots, making them permanent housing solutions,

[1:21:42] like casitas already permitted in our code.

[1:21:46] That gives us these families the stability they need when making such a major investment.

[1:21:54] Many factored homes are built to strict hudstanders, hudstanders, that's really good.

[1:22:02] You know that's better than what we have now.

[1:22:04] They're registered solutions that expand options beyond casinos, offering different price points and

[1:22:11] stability for ferris family needs.

[1:22:14] Whenever for medical necessity, our general affordability,

[1:22:19] families deserve access to cold,

[1:22:22] complying permanent housing at Fitzgerald Circumstances.

[1:22:25] By providing this lawful or alternative,

[1:22:28] we expand housing options,

[1:22:31] give families certainly that their investments won't be lost.

[1:22:36] We respect, thank you very much, sir.

[1:22:39] Thank you.

[1:22:40] Sorry, Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[1:22:43] That's chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[1:22:50] Hello, Commissioner. It's Michael Davis, first here at GA or the IA.

[1:22:54] Here, me, okay.

[1:22:57] Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that enthusiasm.

[1:23:01] I felt we did the right, huh?

[1:23:03] Anyhow, my specific comments about this at gender item is the constitutionality.

[1:23:09] But obviously, there's some folks on the other side of the microphone a little week, so I would like to address that part.

[1:23:18] You know, the fifth amendment is due process, and I heard some about the takings.

[1:23:23] Anybody want to address that?

[1:23:26] Maybe we should be on the

[1:23:34] record.

[1:23:35] It's been statutes.

[1:23:37] How about a news class, Sheriff?

[1:23:39] It's not a Metro.

[1:23:40] but

[1:23:43] let's get on in doctrine.

[1:23:47] I'll have to do a tonality,

[1:23:50] but I'll know that

[1:23:53] you're treading again, be careful.

[1:23:57] Not a threat.

[1:23:59] It's a right to practice with the bill, a right, and the tenth amendment is king.

[1:24:08] Thank you.

[1:24:09] Thanks a lot.

[1:24:13] Well, Anthony.

[1:24:14] Anthony Greco, GRECO.

[1:24:17] I think they should be able to get this if you're trying to keep families together

[1:24:21] and take Gary each other.

[1:24:23] There's nothing wrong with that.

[1:24:24] If people don't like the way it looks, it's probably not going to be garbage if Gerald is doing this because he's a good business person

[1:24:32] and he's been in the community a long time and we need to take care of our families.

[1:24:38] So I think they should be able to have this.

[1:24:40] Thanks sir.

[1:24:41] Say I'm anybody on the phone please.

[1:24:44] Yes, Chair.

[1:24:45] The caller is unmuted.

[1:24:46] Please speak in the spelling or name for the record.

[1:24:50] Yeah, my name is Matt Sather, SAV, LER, and anything that we can do to expand.

[1:25:02] Opportunity for people enjoying their properties, helping out their families, we need to go ahead and make that happen.

[1:25:09] It's definitely a reasonable, reasonable ordinance, reasonable proposal that we can kind of codify here.

[1:25:16] So I'm all for it. And in the future expanding our rights on our own lands and to be able to enjoy our properties.

[1:25:24] Hope to have a lot of new ideas in the future. Thank you very much.

[1:25:28] I have a good rest of you meeting.

[1:25:30] Thank you, come on down to wait.

[1:25:35] Yeah, wait, Lily, L-O-I-O-Y.

[1:25:37] I think we need to end this stigma

[1:25:40] of annual factory to homes once for all

[1:25:42] and stop calling them mobile homes

[1:25:44] and start calling them homes.

[1:25:46] Because that's exactly what they were.

[1:25:49] 46 years ago, and the state of Washington,

[1:25:51] Mount St. Helens, blew its top

[1:25:53] and floating down the Calus River

[1:25:55] was a green river mobile home.

[1:25:58] The homes that got washed away were all pieces,

[1:26:01] But the mobile home was floating down the river.

[1:26:03] That's how well it was built.

[1:26:05] So we need to remove from our zoning,

[1:26:08] I believe, any restrictions I'm gonna do

[1:26:10] with a term mobile home, just call them home.

[1:26:13] And this solves a housing situation

[1:26:16] that families can remain together.

[1:26:19] You don't have to create some situations

[1:26:22] where they have to go get a site built,

[1:26:24] builder to come out and do it.

[1:26:25] You can have it done right in a factory, moved in.

[1:26:27] It's not gonna be moved again

[1:26:29] once just put on the property. This is not the long long trailer days of Lucille Ball.

[1:26:35] This is 2026 their home. So I hope that the county planning, whoever does the writing

[1:26:44] up of the ordinance is going to just remove the name mobile home and just call it home.

[1:26:52] That would solve the problem right there.

[1:26:53] Thanks, do I, I completely agree with you. Come on down, Susie.

[1:27:02] Susie, her, it's H-E-R-T-Z. I don't really

[1:27:07] favor this change of ordinance because it ultimately is not that we need to be like

[1:27:18] of Las Vegas. We're not Las Vegas. We don't need to be like them and we don't need to

[1:27:26] we're a small rural town. If you can find a way to allow for temporary housing for people

[1:27:34] on their properties without it looking and sounding like Las Vegas, then perhaps we should

[1:27:41] entertain that. That is a basis for this ordinance I don't think is terribly healthy and this

[1:27:51] one manufactured home builder. There are others out there, and there's no consensus that is

[1:28:00] come from other builders who are out there to support this. And so it seems a little

[1:28:06] one-sided in terms of who's proposing this change. So I'm personally not in favor of it. Thank you.

[1:28:14] Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[1:28:19] No chair.

[1:28:19] Mondale and Mr. Walley?

[1:28:26] Okay, here you go.

[1:28:28] Chris Lally, L.A. L. L. Y. Good morning, commissioners.

[1:28:33] I just wanted to speak briefly in support of the proposed ADU ordinance.

[1:28:38] I actually think this is a practical change that the kind of housing flexibility we should be encouraging in

[1:28:43] allowing a property owner to have one guest residence or an approved

[1:28:47] ADU while keeping it limited to 1,500 square feet to me.

[1:28:51] Seems like a reasonable balance.

[1:28:52] For a lot of families, this could mean a place for an aging parent,

[1:28:55] an adult child trying to get established or simply an opportunity for multiple generations to live close to one another while still having some independence.

[1:29:04] I also appreciate that the ordinance allows both site-built and qualifying manufacturer homes.

[1:29:09] That gives residence options without simply removing standards.

[1:29:13] My only request would be to make the process and requirements as clear as possible to property owners so people understand up front what they can build and what approvals will be required.

[1:29:24] Over all though, I think this is a sensible change and I do support it moving forward.

[1:29:28] Thank you, thank you.

[1:29:30] Sam anybody on the phone please.

[1:29:32] No chair.

[1:29:33] Mondale Linda.

[1:29:38] Linda Clark, CLARK.

[1:29:41] So it's my understanding.

[1:29:42] you don't really want the little homes. You'd prefer to have bigger trailers.

[1:29:49] Okay, who can afford all that? I was raised in a little tiny two-bedroom,

[1:29:55] what I call trailer trash place in Lancaster with five kids.

[1:30:00] And my mom, living in a little trailer. If my mom had had to go through what this is to make her buy a bigger mobile home,

[1:30:07] she worked as a waiter supporting five kids. I'm sure we have people here like that. How can they do that? They can't.

[1:30:13] And that was in the days before we got welfare and snapping all this other stuff we're giving out today.

[1:30:18] So if a person has something now and it's working for their family and they're keeping it up, why do we need to make them change it?

[1:30:25] makes no sense to me at all.

[1:30:26] They are people that live here, and they deserve a home.

[1:30:30] Thank you.

[1:30:31] Thank you, Sam.

[1:30:32] Anybody on the phone please?

[1:30:35] No chair.

[1:30:36] Come on down, Diane.

[1:30:41] I think we're all saying this.

[1:30:42] I am self-worth, so you need to be CHWO, all RCH.

[1:30:46] Well, at my age, and I am the queen of my own manufacturer.

[1:30:49] Oh, it's right.

[1:30:52] I could tell you that there could be a time

[1:30:53] when I would need to be closer to my family

[1:30:56] have to live in a little one bedroom, house or casito or manufactured home. I also saw some

[1:31:05] really cute plans, or they look like little log cabins to build yourself for 25,000. And

[1:31:12] they're completely done and they have a prep porch on them and stuff. So there's options

[1:31:17] out there. I say that when I first read it, I thought they were going to do a way with a manufactured

[1:31:22] at home that after listening to them, I think it's a wonderful idea and you never know what

[1:31:30] your family circumstances are going to be.

[1:31:33] Thank you.

[1:31:34] Thank you.

[1:31:35] Come on down and prompt, please.

[1:31:42] Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON.

[1:31:46] Again, my somebody else mentioned I believe that there is a misconception about main effects

[1:31:49] at homes.

[1:31:50] They are built in a factory and they're brought in in two pieces or there's something

[1:31:55] that are choose to raise high.

[1:31:56] And at times they're built better quality than stick built.

[1:32:00] I think what the proposal here is, I think it's the necessity in this town because there are

[1:32:05] so few rental options and fewer options of affordability for a lot of people.

[1:32:13] I don't know how any of you may, but he also has brought up, but I was brought up my parents,

[1:32:17] you know, live with you and you take care of them as they age.

[1:32:20] And this will definitely help with that.

[1:32:22] So I think it's more than just, you know, something that they want.

[1:32:26] I think this is how it needs it to help with a lot of the living situations a lot of people are in.

[1:32:35] So it's like, thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone please?

[1:32:40] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[1:32:42] Please, speak in the following name for the record.

[1:32:47] Hi, Timbo, Helen, DOHA, and then, oh, yeah, this is really an easy, easy call on this one.

[1:32:55] There's other similar towns to our size and a little bit beyond that this was not a major issue, but some major importance, especially housing where we have here.

[1:33:09] We do need that help, and this provides that opportunity, and I'm in favor of passage.

[1:33:16] Thank you.

[1:33:17] Thanks.

[1:33:17] Go ahead, Bob.

[1:33:18] Robert Adams, ADAMS, but most of Clark County residents live in a metropolitan area, but

[1:33:28] it's a huge place with lots of rural communities that people in them are real proud

[1:33:33] about being in a rural community.

[1:33:34] And just because it's a rule where a law that ordnance that Clark County passed doesn't mean we shouldn't consider it.

[1:33:42] That there's a whole new technology as far as the small homes right now, right now the unit,

[1:33:49] that's all these what's called capsule homes that get unloaded off a flat bed and this kind of build themselves.

[1:33:55] that I guess get the proper, get set on the proper ground and get the facilities to it.

[1:34:06] But our planning really needs to catch up with all the new technologies, the tiny homes

[1:34:12] so they're out there available, and this is a good step in the right direction and maybe

[1:34:17] expand a little bit to include some of the new stuff. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Come on down, Tammy.

[1:34:28] Tammy Pittman, PIT, M.A.N., great idea, however, I think it could be abused, and I think there's

[1:34:34] an addition that the ordinance saying that at least the homeowner must be on the property,

[1:34:40] they can't rent out multiple, they can't just leave and rent out those homes.

[1:34:45] Because when you live there, you care.

[1:34:48] When you're renting, things can go downhill and sometimes some landlords are not the

[1:34:54] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Sam.

[1:34:55] Anybody on the phone please?

[1:34:58] Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted.

[1:35:10] I'm in favor of taxing this proposal for a manufacturer home as an ADU. It's practical. It's feasible for many people. I think we need to do it. Thank you.

[1:35:25] Thank you. Come on down, Paul. Yeah, no, I learned it. Right to the point. Oh, well, hell.

[1:35:34] Hello, Paul.

[1:35:35] Lee must L. E. M. U. S. Are you folks to applicants? Oh, how many units are you trying to build

[1:35:43] if you don't remember? Yeah, so we're going to just have you comment. I can't go back. If it's okay with a

[1:35:48] may act mass permission to ask some question rules or the, okay. Yeah, so okay. Okay. No, the reason why I was

[1:35:55] They're saying, you know, these developments come in and they do subdivide, but like in

[1:36:02] Amar Gosa Valley where we're at, we have something called land use entitlement rather

[1:36:06] than zoning.

[1:36:08] And we kind of roll back zoning and put it into the people's hands where they have a right

[1:36:12] to say, do they want to build, do they want to grow, do they want to farm, do they want

[1:36:18] to do agriculture?

[1:36:19] So, so land use entitlement is another designation, I was just going to make a suggestion

[1:36:24] as a planning guide that sat on the Planning Committee and now Margot Savali and worked

[1:36:27] on the comprehensive area planned for Night County and also Amargot Savali.

[1:36:32] It would be wise to just consider that's fantastic.

[1:36:36] And then when you do that type of project, you could also do like an approved plan and allow

[1:36:41] all the other members of the community to also go ahead and do a pre-approved plan to just be

[1:36:46] able to fast track these for everybody in the community if somebody wanted to.

[1:36:50] Because right now our our thing is capital we need money and these this would generate a ton of tax revenue

[1:36:56] I mean where we're looking at and I'm gonna go to Valley, you know, if you were to subdivide some of those lots and actually occupy them

[1:37:03] We could solve a lot of our problems with our tax debt and with our commissioner and our night county debt right now. So I was just gonna say I think for the project far as there approval is concerned

[1:37:13] That's what I wanted to ask was their personal approval. You know, I'm for the people I want to see the people be able to do what they want with their land

[1:37:19] and be able to make some money, be able to subdivide them if they want, and be able to

[1:37:23] sell them and have the rights to do what they want with their property, so that's land

[1:37:26] use entitlement.

[1:37:28] Thank you.

[1:37:29] Same anybody on the phone, please?

[1:37:33] No chair.

[1:37:34] One answer.

[1:37:38] Oh, members, everybody.

[1:37:40] Brush out the jail, HNSOM.

[1:37:43] You know, I'm all poor.

[1:37:46] Making necessary changes in order to be able to bring in optional housing,

[1:37:53] facilities, structures. I don't want to see it be limited just

[1:37:58] manufactured homes or which everybody is classified as manufactured homes.

[1:38:04] There are actually great homes or built out of shipping containers.

[1:38:09] I'm in development with somebody on building basically a steel

[1:38:15] instead type of a structure that is actually going to be cited with lightweight concrete

[1:38:22] so that it is fireproof. It will not be able to burn unless you catch up on fire on the

[1:38:29] inside and I find that as being something that could be very useful for a lot of people out

[1:38:35] here in our climate. So I want to see two of it that everybody keeps an open mind so that we

[1:38:41] can have some other options.

[1:38:44] Let's not keep it limited to just

[1:38:45] manufactured homes that everybody knows

[1:38:48] that comes in on a trailer.

[1:38:50] And I'll yield.

[1:38:51] Thank you.

[1:38:52] Thank you.

[1:38:53] Come on, no, ma'am.

[1:38:58] Good morning, Julia.

[1:38:59] I'm using all MUSAL.

[1:39:02] This is actually kind of ironic that it's on the agenda today.

[1:39:07] I have a manufactured home, three bedroom, two bath.

[1:39:12] My mother is almost 92.

[1:39:14] and I'm trying to talk her into coming here. But my mother still drives, plays billiards,

[1:39:24] gardens, plays botchie ball, and she did not want to come because she likes her independence.

[1:39:32] Even though she still needs somebody to be around here, and we talked about putting something

[1:39:38] on the property. It doesn't have to be a big huge manufactured home. They have a smaller

[1:39:45] manufactured homes and why put all that money in it to it and then have somebody have to

[1:40:00] So bad that I'm sure there's plenty of family members that would be able to use, you know, the ADU. And so anyway, I am I am for it and I hope you guys approve it. Thank you.

[1:40:16] Thank you, Sam anybody else, please.

[1:40:24] No, chair.

[1:40:24] Okay, we're going to close up public comment. Commissioners, do you have questions for the applicants or solicitors?

[1:40:30] No, I just have statements if you don't mind.

[1:40:32] read it. There was stuff that was said. The I understand that it's 1500 square foot or less and we

[1:40:39] already have conceit is, which are site belts. The difference, this, what this does is we already

[1:40:45] have a site belt capability. Now we're going to have a manufactured belt capability. And so

[1:40:52] manufactured could be basically a lot of different things, not just manufactured housing as we see

[1:40:58] from Factory Home Center. I also found it very interesting that 14 people actually agreed

[1:41:02] with this. Wow. I'm not, I'm, I'm floored. We actually agree on something. Thank you, Chair.

[1:41:10] Thank you. Commissioner's up north. You got anything for us?

[1:41:15] Mr. Chair? Yes, go ahead, sir. There's nothing else I'd like to make a motion. I'd like to hear one.

[1:41:20] Mr. Chairman, I just, I'd like briefly. My only question is that

[1:41:25] This manufactured homes is a term, and I'm supportive of this, but just the ambiguity that

[1:41:32] was just inserted, this can be more than just manufactured homes.

[1:41:35] I'm just questioning what that means.

[1:41:38] A manufactured home can be depending on who you're talking to, different things.

[1:41:44] Anyone who uses certain systems knows that manufactured home is commonly referred to as a mobile

[1:41:51] home.

[1:41:51] And that's fine.

[1:41:52] When it's attached, it has a certificate of attachment,

[1:41:55] and some guy goes and takes three bars and twists.

[1:41:57] And then he signs the magic piece of paper.

[1:41:59] It says, this is now attached.

[1:42:01] It gets filed with the assessor

[1:42:02] and it becomes real property.

[1:42:04] On the legal definition of real property, of course,

[1:42:06] is separate.

[1:42:07] And so we can talk about this for 35 minutes.

[1:42:09] I won't do that.

[1:42:10] My question is, just bluntly and directly,

[1:42:13] is that this only pertains to manual facture

[1:42:16] to housing that is attached?

[1:42:18] Is that correct?

[1:42:19] Can anyone answer that question?

[1:42:21] So, no, it's not, you can do either a site built,

[1:42:25] ADU, or you can do a manufactured home that is an ADU.

[1:42:28] So now if you're going to be financing the home as a

[1:42:31] Catalone, it will maintain its personal property status,

[1:42:33] but after it's paid off, then it can be converted.

[1:42:36] If it's cash, or if they want to absorb it,

[1:42:39] do like a refire or something like that,

[1:42:41] then it would be converted to real property.

[1:42:42] It just depends on the specific circumstance.

[1:42:46] Also, a point out that in the year 2000, Senate Bill 323 took the discrimination of manufactured

[1:42:56] homes away and identified them as single-family dwellings, and that allowed manufactured homes

[1:43:03] to go in subdivisions alongside conventional-built, stick-belt homes without discriminating

[1:43:10] against them.

[1:43:11] So manufactured homes in the state and Nevada are considered single family dwellings.

[1:43:20] So the question first of all, Fannie Mae is not going to buy that.

[1:43:23] So it would have to be a hard money alone.

[1:43:25] And it just causes a lot of complications.

[1:43:27] I hope for anyone listening,

[1:43:29] Jenny Lee understands that Fannie Mae,

[1:43:31] I don't know if FHA will ensure it.

[1:43:33] This goes away into inside baseball stuff,

[1:43:35] but Fannie Mae is not going to buy that probably.

[1:43:38] And so there will be a lot of issues there.

[1:43:40] That's nothing to do with this law.

[1:43:41] But, again, I'm just, I'm just questioning just for the legislative record.

[1:43:45] The intent of this is just for, there's manufactured homes that are attached.

[1:43:49] They're manufactured homes that are not attached, both are commonly purchased

[1:43:53] in, in, in, in, in, in, and that's fine.

[1:43:57] But how do we distinguish the difference between, if I, if I just rolled up,

[1:44:02] I don't know, a pickup truck with, you know, some crazy looking thing in the back of it,

[1:44:08] I'm living out of there, that could be considered an accessory to willing unit under this bill.

[1:44:16] I want to point out that anything can be an accessory to willing.

[1:44:21] Connex boxes that are converted in the engine near into housing.

[1:44:25] Boxable, which is a company that is growing by big numbers that build casitas in 80 use.

[1:44:34] They are regulated through the manufactured housing division, along with what I sell.

[1:44:41] And I'm not the only one, even though I'm bringing this bill, I'm speaking for the industry in general.

[1:44:49] We've got craftsman homes that is going to applaud if we get this past because they're going to be able to sell more homes too.

[1:44:57] I'm not doing this to sell more homes.

[1:45:00] We've got Clayton Holmes out of Vegas, which is a very big catalog store, and we've got all kinds of internet dealerships. They're all going to be selling homes.

[1:45:09] And they're not just factory-built homes. They're all kinds of homes that are going to fit this bill.

[1:45:18] I'd also, Celeste Senegal, SA and DOVA, I'd like to say that we do have a section of code

[1:45:24] in 1704 that deal with manufactured housing and factory bill homes.

[1:45:28] It does set an age limit.

[1:45:30] It does state that they have to be converted to real property.

[1:45:33] So they aren't just able to come in.

[1:45:36] Thank you.

[1:45:36] I appreciate that.

[1:45:38] I think that addresses it.

[1:45:38] And this is just main factor at home.

[1:45:40] Housing is a, that's he has to question, which is it?

[1:45:42] Yes.

[1:45:42] It's a correct.

[1:45:43] Yeah.

[1:45:43] I'm fully supportive.

[1:45:44] And I think we're fine.

[1:45:45] I just, part of this was just me trying to let people know that just be aware, I, in my business,

[1:45:53] have a lot of people who don't really understand, and there's a lot of places in the county

[1:45:56] that fall in this, and they don't understand that Fannie may won't buy this, and if Fannie

[1:45:59] may won't buy this, you're friendly broker around the street, probably doesn't want to originate

[1:46:02] it.

[1:46:02] It's a whole long thing, but just reach out if you have any questions about what you have,

[1:46:06] or what you're doing.

[1:46:07] I'm sure that Mr. Schultes is, well, as a great resource for this, go to him or go to anybody

[1:46:13] you does this for a living and I'll be able to explain what it's about to you. I am supportive of this, but thank you.

[1:46:18] Thank you.

[1:46:18] I wanted to touch a little bit on the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. This would be for subsequent, like, say that you already have a home and you have an ADU unit on there.

[1:46:25] I actually did check. There's some lenders that won't do it. There's some lenders that will.

[1:46:30] So, Fannie Mae will not, but FHA, you can. That's Freddie Mac.

[1:46:35] So, you would just have to be FHA alone as what you'd have to do and make sure you talk to your particular lender to make sure their underwriters will approve.

[1:46:42] And the one thing that I did find is the homes that people have where they have two homes on

[1:46:48] they're already.

[1:46:49] They were not approved through the county as an ADU.

[1:46:52] So the way it's known, or land use, it says it's two single-family residences.

[1:46:57] And that's one of the underwriters issues.

[1:46:59] It has to be listed as an ADU unit, not two single-family residences.

[1:47:04] Thank you, ma'am.

[1:47:05] Yeah.

[1:47:05] If they choose to ensure, if any may as a purchaser, they have to have a funding source.

[1:47:09] It gets really confusing.

[1:47:10] I'm just telling people I'm not trying to scare people just make sure that you know what you're doing if you're going to do this and just you'll find out first from someone like

[1:47:17] I'm a shelter whoever handles these things professionally. Thank you, sir. Thank you, madam.

[1:47:22] Thank you, Mr. Accounting, are you ready?

[1:47:24] I'm ready.

[1:47:25] I would like to make a motion to adopt 90 bill 2026-12 within effective date of September 21st, 2026.

[1:47:37] We have a motion on the floor in two seconds. I'm going to call for the vote.

[1:47:44] Aye.

[1:47:46] Boss, which eye that carries five zero.

[1:47:47] Thank you guys. Thank you, Celeste.

[1:47:49] Thank you guys very much.

[1:47:52] Thank you.

[1:47:52] Great idea.

[1:47:54] Okay. Let's, um,

[1:48:02] All right. Let's do seven, please.

[1:48:06] Whoever wants to read it.

[1:48:07] Item seven, 10 o'clock a.m. for possible action.

[1:48:11] public hearing discussion and deliberation on a CCMP26 dashboard and application for a major

[1:48:18] master plan amendment to change by parcels 78.99 acres from rural density residential

[1:48:24] to low density residential to conform with a proposed zone change. Located at 1, 8, 1, 0,

[1:48:32] south persons road 1, 8, 1, 1, 1, south Butler street 3, 3, 1, 0, east, winery road 3, 4, 4,

[1:48:38] 0, e-swainary road, and 312 0, e-swainary road.

[1:48:41] Provin Nevada, 89049, assessor's personal numbers.

[1:48:46] 027, 451, 1, 3, 027, 451, 026, 027, 027, 027, 027, 451, 027, 027, 451, 027, 027, 027, 029,

[1:48:59] Dennis Scott Sheldon, property owner, Thomas Helm's PLS,

[1:49:03] engineering, ink, agent, applicant, BCMP25-12, a conforming zone change to change six

[1:49:13] parcels totaling 79.43 acres from Village Residential VR-22 Village Residential VR-10 for

[1:49:20] the proposed residential subdivisions to create 198 single family lots ranging from approximately

[1:49:26] 10,000 to 20,000 square feet located at 1-810 cell persons road, 1-811 cell Butler Street,

[1:49:34] 3-3-10 East Winery Road, 3-4-4-0 East Winery Road,

[1:49:39] 3-0-2-0 East have a 2-3 and 3-1-2-0 East Winery Road,

[1:49:45] 89049, assessors,

[1:49:47] personal numbers 0-274-5-1-1-1-3-0-242-7-2-108-0-274-5-1-0-6-0-274-5-1 0-07

[1:50:00] 1, 2, 7, 4, 5, 1, 0, 0, 8, 0, 0, 2, 7, 4, 5, 1, 0, 9, Dennis Scott Sheldon, property owner, Timothy Sutton, ESQ, Agent applicant,

[1:50:10] NC, Certified Prompt Regional Planning Commission Resolution, 2,026-03, a resolution to amend the master plan designation

[1:50:18] within the regional planning district, located at 1-810 South Parsons Road, 1-811 South Butler Street,

[1:50:25] 3310 East winery road, 3 4 0 East winery road and 312 0 East winery road,

[1:50:33] manufacturer from Nevada, 8904 a assessors' portal member 0274 5111.

[1:50:38] 0274 510 6126, 0274 5107, 0274 5108, 02745109.

[1:50:49] Dennis Scheldon propertyowner Thomas Helms.

[1:50:52] PLS, Dwyer Engineering Inc.

[1:50:54] Agent applicant.

[1:50:57] Thanks for looking up.

[1:51:03] Hello, Kiana.

[1:51:04] Hello.

[1:51:06] Kiana Medise, QIANA, MD ICI, Principal Planner.

[1:51:12] The operational planning commission heard this item at their July 15th, 2020 meeting.

[1:51:18] After discussion of the items, the PRPC voted 4-2 to recommend approval to the Board of

[1:51:25] commissioners. And we are here with the applicant. If you have any questions.

[1:51:31] All right, thank you for that. So I think what we're going to do is open up public comment.

[1:51:37] So come on up.

[1:51:43] Good morning, Julie. And I'm use all. Emma's a Mary U. S. A. L.

[1:51:49] This application is procedurally flawed.

[1:51:52] and violates Nye County Code Title 17 due process.

[1:51:57] First, the developer completely failed

[1:51:59] to hold the mandatory neighborhood meeting.

[1:52:02] This workshop is a strict prerequisite under our zoning codes.

[1:52:07] It is designed to give local citizens a voice

[1:52:10] before an application moves forward by

[1:52:14] pass it entirely strips the community of our legal rights

[1:52:18] to do process.

[1:52:19] A developer's application is legally classified as incomplete.

[1:52:25] The Perump Regional Planning Commission failed to uphold county code regarding neighbor

[1:52:30] notifications.

[1:52:32] They approved a recommendation for this despite a documented breach of bill number 2023.09.

[1:52:40] Because the developer, our skip the mandatory community outreach, we asked the board

[1:52:46] county commissioners to exercise its final authority reject the recommendation and deny the

[1:52:53] applicant and developers application.

[1:52:58] The recommendation of approval is legally compromised

[1:53:01] because it was built on a broken notice process. 9 county chose to protect its residents by

[1:53:08] adopting Title 17 zoning code. I already filed a formal complaint with the planning department

[1:53:15] regarding the structural violation, voting to approve this project today creates a dangerous

[1:53:21] precedent and exposes the county to legal appeals over notice and due process failures

[1:53:27] for the protection of paramperesidence and the integrity of our land use laws.

[1:53:34] I strongly urge the Board to reject this. Thank you. Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone please?

[1:53:42] Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and follow your name for the record.

[1:53:47] Hello Commissioner's Michael David Garcia,

[1:53:51] D-A-R-C-I-A, and if it's okay with y'all,

[1:53:55] I just like to know that my communications

[1:53:56] okay and our line is active,

[1:54:02] can you acknowledge?

[1:54:05] Go ahead sir.

[1:54:07] Paul, thank you, thank you, I appreciate your engagement.

[1:54:10] Kudos to the last speaker, really well said

[1:54:13] and articulated and thing that caught my ear,

[1:54:18] And hopefully our state and federal partners is affiliated disclosure when it came to Tim Sutton.

[1:54:26] So that's how easy it is to go at Partei.

[1:54:30] Thank you all.

[1:54:32] Come on down both.

[1:54:37] That's for Savage.

[1:54:38] B.O.R.Y.

[1:54:39] S.E.W.I.C.H.

[1:54:41] I'm speaking on this as a regular person and not a representative of the RPC.

[1:54:50] I want everybody to be sure and listen to this.

[1:54:54] This is 198 homes on top of the approximately.

[1:55:00] 9,000 homes that are already in the pipeline being proposed on property with known flooding concerns.

[1:55:11] So we're talking 9,900 homes. What the hell? Let's just go ahead and build homes for the heck of it.

[1:55:17] The applicant proposes berms and detention basins on the property to hold the water that comes from the flooding.

[1:55:29] Why increase the density now before we know whether the infrastructure and drainage systems necessary to support that increased density will actually work?

[1:55:39] We do not have the infrastructure to support this, we need to understand our water and infrastructure and the length of time needed to plan for it before adding more density.

[1:55:51] I am here to protect the integrity of the master plan.

[1:55:56] The master plan provides predictability, reflects community values and guides growth.

[1:56:02] Is the county change as a master plan every time a developer comes in and says that they want to change it

[1:56:09] What the heck is our master plan for I mean we wrote it we spent hours and hours and now you guys just

[1:56:17] I don't understand why you keep changing these things

[1:56:20] What has changed since the adoption of master plan that justifies changing the property from

[1:56:26] We're all density residential, low density.

[1:56:30] Did we get new jobs, infrastructure, more schools?

[1:56:33] Do we discover another aquifer?

[1:56:36] If none of these things have changed.

[1:56:39] Oh, thank you.

[1:56:40] Sam, you got anybody for us, please?

[1:56:43] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[1:56:45] Please begin the following name for the record.

[1:56:49] Yes, Amy Nelson, any else as a win?

[1:56:53] This is the one that I was listening to

[1:56:56] But the planning and zoning meeting, there is many reasons not to accept it.

[1:57:03] Ten Sutton's focus for the owner, who was not available to speak to anyone else except for

[1:57:09] him on the phone, there were a lot of questions that went unanswered.

[1:57:14] And part of this is a release of distance of the leeway.

[1:57:21] It was 1,000 feet, now it's, if this one is correct, it's 300 feet and the height of buildings was removed.

[1:57:31] It's in there somewhere from the same run.

[1:57:35] So this will open the door for a lot of things other than homes.

[1:57:40] If we approach as too much, they'll push the more of their solar farms right there.

[1:57:48] they can use as much water they've resorted to saying that that's the equivalent of so many homes anyway.

[1:57:56] So I'm not convinced that they won't use it. If they can't use it for data centers, there's a user for solar farms.

[1:58:05] So I'm not in favor of this at all. Thank you.

[1:58:08] Thank you, come on down, sir, and we're on item 7.

[1:58:14] Stephen Pippman, PIT, MAM, I live on winery road, and the current heavy truck traffic continues to

[1:58:21] destroy the sides of the road. If one of these trucks is coming towards you, you both must put your

[1:58:27] right side tires off the road to pass safely. I have an eight inch by eight inch ditch at the

[1:58:33] end of my driveway, I must refill every time it rains. The addition of two to 400 cars daily,

[1:58:40] I'm guessing on everybody is going to work.

[1:58:44] Plus service and delivery vehicles will further erode the road,

[1:58:48] even if some of the vehicles exit the development onto Cortina Street.

[1:58:53] If you thought traffic at 160 in Homestead was bad,

[1:58:56] just waiting to see how bad the traffic at 160 and winery becomes,

[1:59:00] should this development be permitted?

[1:59:04] You all have this.

[1:59:07] I live there.

[1:59:09] Right in the middle of it, is there a need for a hundred and ninety-eight tightly packed

[1:59:14] point two acre houses in this area?

[1:59:18] There are over two hundred empty half acre lots in the winery area between Warnery Road and

[1:59:23] Zuni Avenue.

[1:59:24] I counted this morning.

[1:59:26] Finally, the addition of multi-story houses in this development will restrict my view

[1:59:31] of the Mount Charleston Range.

[1:59:33] I urge you to deny this.

[1:59:35] Thank you.

[1:59:36] Thank you.

[1:59:36] Anybody on the phone, please?

[1:59:40] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[1:59:42] Please speak of the spelling or name for the record.

[1:59:47] My name is Matt Sather, FADLE R.

[1:59:51] There's going to have to come a point in time where we have to kind of put our foot down and stop.

[1:59:57] Stop measures like this.

[1:59:59] The plan calls for...

[2:00:00] Our larger lots that are pushing, you know, half acre, 0.4 acre, and you're trying to chop them down into 0.2, a little over 0.2, that's going to get to the character of the surrounding neighborhood, the expectations of the neighbors when they first their homes in light of what's happening in the master plan.

[2:00:20] And I just think it's wrong and I think it's setting a bad press.

[2:00:25] And unfettered growth to the take of unfettered growth is not going to be a benefit for our community, not just my two cents, thanks a lot.

[2:00:32] Thank you.

[2:00:33] Thank you.

[2:00:34] Thank you.

[2:00:34] Thank

[2:00:37] you.

[2:00:40] There seems to be a pattern here where residents are not notified prior to projects beginning in areas.

[2:00:48] This is not the first one.

[2:00:49] So if that's trying to be, you know,

[2:00:52] skim by without notifying the residents and I'm sorry,

[2:00:56] but Mr. Sutton here has a pattern of, you know,

[2:00:59] being dishonest with the community.

[2:01:02] So with that alone, best, best stay a lot.

[2:01:06] Now, sides that, I don't understand why it's things like this,

[2:01:14] that are not necessary, that it's no way going to benefit

[2:01:16] anybody in the community, all right?

[2:01:18] But unlike the other issue that we had on the agenda, there was a benefit to the community.

[2:01:26] Nobody's looking at how it's affecting the other residents on anything it seems like.

[2:01:31] And I think that certain things need to be reviewed.

[2:01:35] I think maybe the commissioners need to go out there and view the area before making decisions on anything.

[2:01:42] And as far as I can see the planning commission nor this board ever goes out to these properties,

[2:01:46] or do these proposed sites to view the area to get an idea of what's going on.

[2:01:52] So, how you guys can look at this decision on anything based off of that is beyond me.

[2:01:57] And as far as I'm concerned though, this should be denied.

[2:02:00] Thank you.

[2:02:01] Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please?

[2:02:04] Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak in the spoken name for the record.

[2:02:11] Tricia's home, R-O-B-B. Sorry, it has been sick.

[2:02:19] Yeah, I agree with everyone else.

[2:02:21] And not only that, I'm kind of tired of seeing all these developers coming in here

[2:02:27] and trying to take over our town when it's supposed to be a rural, unincorporated town.

[2:02:33] I don't know whatever happened to the code of the West, but it seems to have been forgotten.

[2:02:37] And I think that everybody would like to have more of the code of the way.

[2:02:42] Not only that, I feel as though giving priority to other people for these big developments

[2:02:48] is basically overseeing all of the utility challenge blocks and their rights.

[2:02:54] They deserve to not be ignored.

[2:02:57] Thank you.

[2:02:58] Thank you.

[2:02:59] Come on down, sir.

[2:03:03] afternoon, Richard Hunter, H-U-N-T-E-R. I also live on winery road. I've been there

[2:03:11] less than five years and we've had three different occasions where public

[2:03:15] quirks had to come out, cleaned the road. Recently we had a little pond going

[2:03:21] at winery down by the mobile station. All the heavy trucks we ended up with a

[2:03:31] people developing things. But until we have the proper drainage, you know, it's just not going

[2:03:39] to work. And flood control is something that's getting out of hand in this community.

[2:03:46] Because I mean, look, if we cover up 80 acres, where's that water going to go? It's not

[2:03:51] fair to the people when you're sending all that water and debris into their property.

[2:04:03] I'm

[2:04:03] to look at some different ways of doing to qualify these people for building there.

[2:04:12] And flood control has got to be one of them.

[2:04:14] Thank you.

[2:04:15] Thanks, sir.

[2:04:16] Come on, Dancer.

[2:04:27] Okay.

[2:04:28] My name is Mike McKenzie, MECK, ENCA, E Splash Mall, BHL.

[2:04:34] I've 42 years experience in what I call a man event, what I call a distribution

[2:04:39] management.

[2:04:40] member of the American Society of Civil Engineering since 1994 and what are facilities

[2:04:46] construction. Commissioners, I'm against this zoning change. Some of the reason smaller

[2:04:52] wants to not create more water, more road money, more share, more fire capacity,

[2:04:59] You'll need to create more.

[2:05:00] Our houses on the same land. 8162s we already know is a verb-pump, overallocated. You just voted 5-0 for a water ban.

[2:05:11] Because it will opt for a soft submission to take that giant man. Housing density is the same math on a smaller scale.

[2:05:18] A half acre lot is one household.

[2:05:21] Cut that down to 10,000, 20,000 square feet.

[2:05:26] Then now you're typing four more toilets.

[2:05:28] More sinks, more landscape, more people watching the cars.

[2:05:33] We can't handle that.

[2:05:35] And rezoning does not add one acre foot of water

[2:05:38] to the sock for her.

[2:05:40] It's going to take away roads, services, work area.

[2:05:45] They all work the same way.

[2:05:46] More houses.

[2:05:47] means more road trips. There are already failing. Take a look at Hayford Ranch Road. You have

[2:05:52] that development going there. That road is proud. I'm sorry for my language. So again, I'm

[2:05:59] just against it. Please be careful what you do. We only have one arc part. Don't add more

[2:06:04] people to it. Thank you, sir. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[2:06:12] No chair.

[2:06:13] One down, Linda.

[2:06:16] Linda Clark, Sally R. K. I heard the last meeting we went to when they talked

[2:06:21] about this project. It sounds nice and a nice neighborhood, but I listen to the people that live

[2:06:26] there that talk about the flooding, the bad streets, in a flood zone, and how many problems

[2:06:33] they were having with the water. And I think, why are we doing this to people? Doesn't make

[2:06:39] any sense?

[2:06:43] It's lunacy, if you ask me, all these building in these new homes, they're lovely.

[2:06:47] Sure, they are costs a lot of money. We have a lot of them sitting bake it because it can't sell them

[2:06:54] We have a lot of houses in the development around the whole town that aren't selling and

[2:07:00] I understand that our property values based on a figure I heard this morning or yesterday

[2:07:04] It gone down at least 2% to probably more than that

[2:07:08] So if we're gonna keep building homes

[2:07:10] What's the purpose if there's not gonna be anybody the wants them?

[2:07:14] Yeah, eventually, you might sell them, but we've got a lot of problems that we need to

[2:07:18] solve before we get to that point.

[2:07:19] And we can't keep building homes and keep using water we don't have to, for who?

[2:07:26] Developers?

[2:07:27] Nothing I get, Mr. Shuddin, and his fat, I don't care who it is.

[2:07:31] There is too much of this going on in our community that needs to stop.

[2:07:36] We've got to take a stop and start looking at where are we going?

[2:07:41] I understand even the fairgrounds is on a flood zone.

[2:07:45] Do you think the BLM wanted to keep it?

[2:07:47] No, give it to the city to count.

[2:07:49] They didn't want it.

[2:07:50] Okay, so where do we go from here?

[2:07:53] We need to put a big stop, a big plug in the hole

[2:07:57] and start looking at where we're going in this town

[2:08:00] and why are we overbuilding with stuff that we don't need.

[2:08:03] You think all these people are going to come here

[2:08:05] and fill these homes?

[2:08:06] There's no jobs.

[2:08:07] Oh, I know.

[2:08:08] We're going to have the solar jobs and we're going to have all the DC jobs, that's a bunch

[2:08:13] of bull crap that we know it.

[2:08:15] So, where are the people going to work?

[2:08:17] Yeah, we're going to have a lot of kids.

[2:08:19] I heard we had $20,000 kids here.

[2:08:21] Do you believe that?

[2:08:22] Thank you.

[2:08:23] Sam, anybody in the phone, please?

[2:08:25] No chair.

[2:08:26] Come on down, sir.

[2:08:31] Michael Bergen, last name is B.U.R.

[2:08:33] G.A.N., I oppose this change for three reasons.

[2:08:37] First, I think the master plan is already identified and of acreage for high-density subdivisions.

[2:08:44] We don't need to add anymore.

[2:08:46] Second, I believe the plan submitted violates NCC16.28.155.

[2:08:54] This says you can't have lots less than 20,000 square feet unless you have a PUD or an approved

[2:09:01] development agreement and either exist.

[2:09:03] Third, this lot is for sale, the owner from Vegas, bought it for a million, he's selling

[2:09:10] it for 7.5 million, hasn't been improved, he has no intention to build on it, the

[2:09:17] zone change has only one goal to increase his profit.

[2:09:22] So, commissioners, you want to side with your constituents in Prump who are against this,

[2:09:28] or would want to take the side of a land speculator from Clark County.

[2:09:33] Thank you, Sam and I will be on the phone please.

[2:09:37] No chair.

[2:09:38] No chair.

[2:09:38] All day or anything.

[2:09:43] Anthony Greco, GRECO, I'm against this.

[2:09:46] I don't think until after July of 27 and we get a water study, we should do anything more than one or two homes at a time.

[2:09:56] People who have property for years that want to retire here, that's fine.

[2:10:00] These developments we don't need it. And everything we don't want, Tim Sutton's representing

[2:10:05] them people. Okay, this seems to be a problem to me. I don't know if he's a bad guy or not,

[2:10:12] but in my opinion, I'm going to need two showers just to get some standing next to him.

[2:10:19] We can be polite, say I'm anybody on the phone, please.

[2:10:26] No chair.

[2:10:27] Mondays on Deborah.

[2:10:33] Deborah Thomas, THOMAS.

[2:10:40] This is a, this is not a good thing, especially after what I just heard the previous gentleman say.

[2:10:52] But I know that developers buy and buy, make improvements, make changes to zoning or whatever,

[2:11:03] and then they sell it for a major profit.

[2:11:06] I don't think we need to, we should be doing that in an I-county.

[2:11:11] It needs to be, the developer is going to build on it.

[2:11:16] It needs to be the developers going to pay for the extra infrastructure to prevent the flooding.

[2:11:25] And if they decide that they want to have public community water system, they need to pay for that too.

[2:11:36] That's how I feel very strongly about that coming from a family of builders and developers.

[2:11:40] Come

[2:11:44] on down to our

[2:11:48] commissioners, Reggie Federal, FEDR on, you know, our family, we love

[2:11:56] Trump.

[2:11:58] And the housing, having 100 additional 98 forms, we live up in that direction on a winery.

[2:12:06] At small parcels, it's going to look like a mini Las Vegas to me, and anyway, and I think

[2:12:13] We need to rethink this out before we agree with this.

[2:12:19] There's going to be a lot of construction vehicles and we go up winery road.

[2:12:24] And it's not getting any better because of the trucks going up and down it.

[2:12:31] The road issues surface damage.

[2:12:35] And here again, I'm thinking about the aquifer, the water situation.

[2:12:40] And I know you mentioned that, you know, it's just, you will as me.

[2:12:45] I think we need to do more research, less homes, and maybe one or two at the most, you know.

[2:12:53] And I really think that's the two, particularly on this phone.

[2:12:58] Thank you.

[2:12:59] Thank you, sir.

[2:13:01] Come on down, Susie.

[2:13:06] Susie.

[2:13:06] Susie Hurts, H-E-R-T-Z.

[2:13:09] Mr. Bergram was right on spot.

[2:13:12] And I think some of this information needs to come out here because of the people who are sitting in this audience who didn't read the back up and don't know the history.

[2:13:22] I attended the RPC meeting where this was voted upon and there were dozens of people speaking against this project for a variety of very logical reasons.

[2:13:32] I also read the back of for this item today, and there are dozens and dozens of no responses from the residents within the immediate area of this project.

[2:13:48] So, there are lots of noes, even though the RPC passed at, they only passed at 4 to 2.

[2:13:56] So, it was not a conclusive super enthusiastic response, and I think a lot of that is,

[2:14:02] because of the push that comes from the planning department.

[2:14:06] And once again, I'm going to say that I think that there's too much that happens in the planning department

[2:14:13] that then gets foisted upon the RPC and then you and you have little to say about it or you do say a little about it.

[2:14:22] 298 homes on quarter acre lots or less is going to be every housing development that you see in Las Vegas when you drive in on Blue Diamond.

[2:14:33] Little box houses, three stories tall inches apart from each other. That is not perump.

[2:14:39] We don't have the infrastructure for it.

[2:14:43] The application does not include their doing anything about the schools, fire, and police.

[2:14:51] And neither has anybody in the county spoken to that.

[2:14:54] We don't have infrastructure for that for 198 homes, equally.

[2:15:00] At least 400 new residents, likely 600 or 800 residents, or 1,000 residents, and the cars to go with it.

[2:15:08] Thanks.

[2:15:09] No, please.

[2:15:11] Anybody in the phone, please?

[2:15:12] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak in the name for the record.

[2:15:19] Hi, my name is Dawn Murphy, and you are PHY, and I have a two-fold problem up here.

[2:15:26] I live up in the vineyards right next to the plants of division or whatever it's going to be and I don't want that in my neighborhood. That's too many houses. 189 house or 98 houses is too many. We already have too many subdivisions going in with these small little lots. I really don't want this to continue to go on. Also, you do realize that one of the roads that goes up against is called

[2:15:55] industrial road, we have gravel pits over there and I own gravel pits over there.

[2:16:00] I own a gravel pit over there. I don't own a I own yards over there. So when they get this in

[2:16:06] or they're going to start giving me a problem because now you know, they move next to my business

[2:16:11] state. I didn't move next to theirs. You know, those businesses have been up there for years. So

[2:16:17] I am thoroughly opposed for all the reasons everybody else has stated, including my own. Thank you so

[2:16:24] have a nice day. Thank you, don't come on up, Tammy.

[2:16:32] Tammy,

[2:16:33] Pittman, PIT, M again. So yes, I live in the winery. And the

[2:16:38] winery is currently zoned for two homes per acre.

[2:16:43] There are some

[2:16:43] homes in the vineyard that receive permission for a quarter acre

[2:16:46] lots, but predominantly it's all half acre lots. Perump has high

[2:16:51] density developments in the south end of town. And if we have to

[2:16:54] have them, which I'm not a fan of, they need to stay there. People

[2:16:59] move to Perump to own a house that is not cheek by jowl with their neighbors and they move

[2:17:06] here to Perump to have a home. They also want 360 degrees stunning views that we have. The

[2:17:13] Las Vegas style hand your neighbor, a cup of sugar out the window, needs to stay in Vegas.

[2:17:20] Plan for their planning for down to a 16th of an acre lots with zero lot lines. I already know

[2:17:28] Anyone who's property is on the lower winery or a person's road will no longer enjoy our stunning sunsets

[2:17:34] or and will lose their privacy as people are peering over their back fence into their backyards.

[2:17:42] These are our front yards depending if you're on down winery.

[2:17:46] The three story homes I see me, their property values are also going to plummet.

[2:17:51] It's common dollars that our basin is already severely

[2:17:56] overallocated.

[2:17:57] And the proposed density would put eight times the water usage

[2:18:00] been currently allocated.

[2:18:02] That's unconscionable.

[2:18:04] We already, I know I only have two minutes.

[2:18:07] The owner of this property does not have live here

[2:18:09] and does not experience the effects of this urban

[2:18:11] blight in the midst of our town.

[2:18:13] The motivations for anyone championing this project

[2:18:16] should be examined closely.

[2:18:18] Please vote no.

[2:18:20] Perfect timing. Thank you. Come on down,

[2:18:29] Dwight.

[2:18:30] There you go.

[2:18:32] Right, Lily, Eli, Eli, Eli. I was at the planning board meeting when this room was packed with people from the winery objecting to this development.

[2:18:41] And I guess I'm just not understanding my wife and I moved here this going on 24 years to a world down.

[2:18:49] And it was laid out with master plans and master plans that have been read done and now we

[2:18:55] seem to be tearing the master plan up one development at a time where again high density

[2:19:03] housing into a world down, which is by its very nature would be larger lots.

[2:19:10] Now this is affecting the people up in the winery industry, but it's also affecting people driving

[2:19:16] on Homestead that we'll see another 4,500 cars a day coming on to 160 in an intersex

[2:19:26] and it's already screwed up from the gas station, it was built there on the corner.

[2:19:31] So there's that issue.

[2:19:32] They've got the flooding issue.

[2:19:35] The county and the town doesn't have the resource, it's a service to population.

[2:19:39] It has now, yet it's anticipating adding thousands of more people.

[2:19:44] Commission, this doesn't make any sense, this development, I'm not going to speak on another

[2:19:49] one that's on the agenda, but why are we continually having people come to the planning

[2:19:54] commission, coming to the planning planners, and getting approved?

[2:20:00] Global for density housing, high-density housing, when we're a roll town with limited resource. We have

[2:20:07] 12,000 acre feet of confirmed water from the last study with another 3,000 acre feet deeper into

[2:20:14] the ground that we haven't even explored yet, and yet we keep piling people into this. I don't

[2:20:20] understand it. I want you to turn this down. I want you to turn them leaf here and go by the master

[2:20:27] we have right now. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down in front please.

[2:20:36] Hi commissioners. Mary Greenspan Blackwell, BLACKW. I LL. I'm just here to speak from my heart today.

[2:20:45] Everyone's giving you such great legal advice and this and that, but I moved here 30 years ago.

[2:20:53] And I was in real estate.

[2:20:55] When I first started selling out here 30 years ago,

[2:20:59] people were coming to me, they wanted an acre lot.

[2:21:02] They wanted horse property.

[2:21:04] And that's the way it was for many years.

[2:21:08] And then people were happy when the half acre homes came in,

[2:21:12] because an acre is too big for some people.

[2:21:16] And then we were so thrilled when Mountain Falls started developing,

[2:21:20] it gave the people that wanted that type of living area, a place to live and everybody was happy.

[2:21:29] And all the 30 years that I was working here sold hundreds and hundreds of properties and homes

[2:21:36] I never once had anybody come and say, oh I'd like to live in a little box that's right next door

[2:21:44] where I don't if I sneeze somebody's gonna hear me. That's not why any of us moved here to

[2:21:50] We love this place. The way it is. And I understand development. I understand progress.

[2:21:56] I'm not against it. But please, you guys are the stewards of this valley. Would you just please think twice before you, you know,

[2:22:07] make this a place that I got to go down to Vegas and look at that ugly, those ugly homes as I'm going down blue diamond.

[2:22:15] we don't I don't want to look out my window and see that and I don't think you do either.

[2:22:20] Thank you please vote no. Thank you Sam anybody on the phone please.

[2:22:32] No chair.

[2:22:33] You're not close public comment. All right, commissioners questions for the folks.

[2:22:40] Any folks?

[2:22:43] There is a chairman. Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

[2:22:47] You mean my gavel if you like it. It's up to you.

[2:22:51] Mr. Chairman, who do you want me to speak her?

[2:22:53] Yeah, go ahead, sir.

[2:22:54] Thank you.

[2:22:56] Thank you, Mr.

[2:22:58] This is my district.

[2:23:00] So I obviously know more about this than some of their developments going on.

[2:23:05] One thing I want to point out is a strange thing that happens here with property discussions.

[2:23:11] And I want everyone to be aware of this.

[2:23:14] I've heard the same people talking about property rights.

[2:23:17] You're saying, well, do whatever we want with your land, it's your land.

[2:23:21] I want to see you do whatever you want with your land and then they speak on something

[2:23:26] like this and they say, well, no, you can't, you can't do this.

[2:23:30] I'm just warning that if we run around telling people, do whatever we want with your property,

[2:23:35] this would catch up not just to these people, but to us as a government, if we take a position

[2:23:38] of this, no water for developments like this, but yes, water, if you want to put 300 tiny

[2:23:45] homes in a one-acre lot, using consistent, that best it does raise concerns about equal protection.

[2:23:51] And I just want people to think about that, some people who are not admonishing anyone,

[2:23:54] I'm just saying be aware of that because it's an inconsistent position and it could be legally

[2:23:59] potentially dangerous if we as a county hold that position.

[2:24:02] It's okay for you to speak on it, but it's just something that I want to point out.

[2:24:07] My objection here is pretty simple.

[2:24:10] I do not like the density being proposed here.

[2:24:12] addition of homes here right now, which are two separate issues, and there are three things

[2:24:18] that I want to discuss about this. One is traffic.

[2:24:25] I don't, I know, come here to your

[2:24:26] boards from Massachusetts, I know, to people who should call it out there, and root nine

[2:24:30] in Massachusetts, I watched as well as they built up a native built up in those towns. root nine

[2:24:35] is a kind of a just a road almost almost, actually, almost exactly like 160, and it just got

[2:24:41] North and North and I have memories 25 years ago sitting in traffic and you go, you know, half a mile and 20 minutes

[2:24:49] Chicago the same thing for my Chicago people root 34 for those of you and those Western suburbs

[2:24:53] I live there for a short period and you see this is just a natural occurrence when you start dumping housing in places that

[2:25:00] May not necessarily be for that kind of housing, but exceptions are made, or plans were bad. My concern, it's not even about my district. Here, it's about the traffic on that corner. That corner, on homestead, 160, could potentially be very, very bad, especially people are going the persons. And I know that there's another access that they want through the little area, under the people in court.

[2:25:26] have no love that, but uh, that we're going to go up to Parsons to access this. It's going to

[2:25:30] just dump all of this traffic in that area. It will back up on the street, probably in both directions,

[2:25:35] and then we have that disaster across the street with the people all turning around illegally,

[2:25:40] because they want to be able to go from the gas station, the pot store, or wherever they're going.

[2:25:44] Lieutenant Clensor promised me he would retire until they fixed that light. He retired anyway. He's

[2:25:49] still mad about the light. I'm sure out there somewhere. The light we have been able to fix for a

[2:25:53] years now. It's just if we can't fix a light, I just don't know if we can be trusted.

[2:25:58] As a government to do this, I think we really let our people down. So that's the traffic

[2:26:04] part of it. The infrastructure part of it. It are the eroding roads. You know, we all passed

[2:26:11] a million dollars a row to pair. And you never guessed it because money wasn't spent

[2:26:14] in your career later. The plan, as we found out, was to give them money back. I used that

[2:26:20] story and I get a laugh every single time from somebody who's I'm meeting with, but that's the reality here, that's the reality here and I can.

[2:26:29] The infrastructure is not catch up with this kind of densely packed development or any development right now in that area.

[2:26:39] it's not conducive to that. The roads, infrastructure, I guess they go, they go hand in hand.

[2:26:45] My objection isn't water, not a water engineer, I'm not a scientist.

[2:26:51] I'm in a terrible school in science, so I'm not going to pretend to know anything about water.

[2:26:56] And that's out of our jurisdiction as the DA will tell you is the water is owned by the state.

[2:27:01] So we can object on those grounds. And it's fine, but my objection is just it makes no sense to put this here.

[2:27:06] the density of it makes no sense. It will affect every single traveler who goes down there,

[2:27:11] not just people in my neighborhood, or people in my district. And that is why I post this

[2:27:16] thank you Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Mr. Chair, I'd like to speak after Commissioner of Strict

[2:27:21] Flint, please. Sure. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[2:27:25] Thank you, Chair. I was just going to ask about the flooding. I see that there's been some measures

[2:27:29] within this subdivision to address flooding and was wondering what you foresee here. It's hard

[2:27:35] It's hard to see when you look at it online, and if the people have even seen that,

[2:27:40] to take it or measures, because why do roads have been a challenge for a long time?

[2:27:45] And I just think it's nice for once someone's coming forward with some ideas for flooding.

[2:27:50] I'm not saying I'm supporting the project.

[2:27:52] I would just like to hear about that, please.

[2:28:01] Thank you, Commissioner Strickland.

[2:28:02] I didn't know if we would have an opportunity to speak.

[2:28:04] I'm glad we did.

[2:28:05] I would like to address that concern along with several others.

[2:28:07] Tim Sutton, issue TTO in, with Sutton Law and Consulting Group, here on behalf of the property owner, Scott Sheldon.

[2:28:16] So, as Keanu mentioned, this is a 190-home subdivision plan for on 80 acres.

[2:28:24] And I guess I'm a little perplexed on all of the comments on regarding density.

[2:28:32] the neighboring winery subdivision contains 100 homes on 40 acres.

[2:28:39] We're proposing 200 homes on 200 acres.

[2:28:42] If we wanted to develop under the existing zoning right now,

[2:28:45] we could build 163 of those homes without any approvals at all,

[2:28:49] other than a development agreement.

[2:28:51] Development agreement was mentioned previously.

[2:28:53] If you notice in your backup, I believe it was Mr. Hunter,

[2:28:58] Yeah, Mr. Hunter, I think who mentioned the need for it about money agreement, that's absolutely true.

[2:29:03] We do need a development agreement, that's a condition of approval, should the board choose to approve this subdivision?

[2:29:11] The you asked about the flood control as has been mentioned by several people flooding is a significant concern in this area, which is why the developer chose to put significant flooding prevention

[2:29:25] in the form of retention basis, retention basins slash open space property there.

[2:29:35] So under an I county code, the current requirement for this level of subdivision would

[2:29:41] be 1.14 acres of open space, the developers putting in 20 acres, that's 25% of the

[2:29:48] acreage, that's unprecedented, so there's quite a significant bit of real estate being committed

[2:29:55] to address flooding concerns that have been raised.

[2:30:00] As far as the other concern, traffic, as far as the traffic concerns that have been raised, yes, of course, if you have more people, that's going to create some traffic concerns.

[2:30:11] However, bakes into our development and approval process is public works review, which addresses all those things.

[2:30:17] There's impact fees that need to be paid in order to address those, whether it's widening the road, creating more ingress and egress, adding more layers of compaction onto the roads.

[2:30:27] I mean, that's all baked into our process, along with the impact fees for roads that would

[2:30:32] be required to be paid upon approval of the development agreement.

[2:30:38] One of the things I wanted to note that came over from the RPC was that there were concerns

[2:30:43] raised about only having one single story rather than multi-story housing homes being built.

[2:30:51] That was something that the developer considered to at the RPC level and was made contingent

[2:30:56] on the approval, just wanted to bring that forward.

[2:30:59] Other than that, commissioners, people are making it sound

[2:31:02] like we're building mountain falls right next to the winery.

[2:31:04] That's not the case.

[2:31:05] We're building the winery right next to the winery.

[2:31:08] If you look at the map there, if you click on any of the lots

[2:31:10] to the right, I think there's a couple along the road

[2:31:12] that are half acre locks, but other than that,

[2:31:15] they're smaller than the lots that we're

[2:31:18] that are being proposed now.

[2:31:18] There are VR8 lots.

[2:31:20] The lot size is 8,500 square feet on average for those lots.

[2:31:25] We're proposing 10,000 square foot lots of minimum.

[2:31:29] So the representations that you've heard

[2:31:31] that this is increasing density in terms of the area,

[2:31:34] at least not to the east, where the winery subdivision exists,

[2:31:37] it's simply not true.

[2:31:39] So if there aren't any other questions, I'll say that.

[2:31:42] If I may continue to share.

[2:31:44] So we are doing a comparative to the vineyards.

[2:31:48] The vineyards itself is the one that has the smaller lots.

[2:31:52] And I believe you just stated, Mr. Sutton,

[2:31:55] that you have the ability with the current zoning

[2:31:58] to do 163 homes, and this would be 198 homes.

[2:32:04] Did I get that right?

[2:32:06] Okay, so that being correct, you're adding 35 homes,

[2:32:11] but putting in flood control that you wouldn't have to do

[2:32:14] if you just built the homes,

[2:32:16] because you don't need, and the development agreement

[2:32:18] could also talk about traffic.

[2:32:21] So I don't know much, but I do know that having the flood control would be exquisite.

[2:32:29] I'm very concerned about that area.

[2:32:31] We all have been for a long time.

[2:32:34] That's the only thing I don't know, Commissioner.

[2:32:39] This is your district, Mr. Bain.

[2:32:42] And that being your district, have you considered the differentiation between the current approved homes

[2:32:49] If it go in versus this subdivision and not having any flight control.

[2:32:55] And while we have this thing called leading the witness,

[2:32:57] about that in my head, DA, you like that?

[2:33:01] I, unfortunately, cannot object under these circumstances,

[2:33:05] but anyone is an attorney, you're not an attorney, look that up.

[2:33:07] I'm gonna get a kid and I'll let go.

[2:33:08] Thank you, later.

[2:33:10] I've considered everything.

[2:33:12] I mean, the reality is, if you compare it to something that's more dense,

[2:33:16] It's not dense, but the request is to change the zone

[2:33:19] to allow more homes than, or they're now.

[2:33:22] That's a fact.

[2:33:24] I mean, we can debate it if you want,

[2:33:25] but the debate has ended with a statement for me.

[2:33:28] Perfect.

[2:33:29] I have considered all of it.

[2:33:31] The responsibility of the traffic.

[2:33:32] It does not change things with the traffic.

[2:33:33] It's going to increase traffic.

[2:33:34] It's going to increase strain.

[2:33:36] And again, I would say that if anyone in the state

[2:33:38] of Nevada can fix that light that's

[2:33:40] we've been asking to fix for two years now.

[2:33:43] And maybe then we can bring this back up for a vote.

[2:33:46] because if we can't even get a second added on to that light

[2:33:49] and no one can figure it out and I've talked to all seven and dot people that apparently

[2:33:52] are six and dot people the handle of this place

[2:33:56] then I can't even think about adding this and if we can't figure out how to spend a million dollars

[2:34:00] on road repair that sits there and rocks somewhere and the plan is to give it back.

[2:34:06] I don't know how we can possibly do something like this here.

[2:34:09] This makes no sense maybe if I can answer those I'd be amenable to looking to this further

[2:34:15] as it now still in now. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you, Chair.

[2:34:19] Thank you. Love having the conversation and seeing what the other commissioners feel and what they see.

[2:34:26] And it's, it's, this is a rewarding job because of that. Thank you, sir.

[2:34:30] Thank you. Now we're going to hear from commissioners before.

[2:34:33] Well, thank you, Chair. Thank you, commissioners. I thought at one point Mr. Sutton jumped up and cut us all off.

[2:34:43] appreciate the clarification and I'd like to give some clarification as well.

[2:34:49] Commissioner Bane is correct originally from born and raised, educated in Massachusetts,

[2:34:55] root 9 as in root 128 which

[2:35:00] No longer exists, no, it's 95, those who are old, those who are old, horse and cattle routes, a different route, that actually is a different route.

[2:35:10] That actually is a different route, no, it goes west.

[2:35:12] Yes, route 9 goes west to the western part and leads into New York.

[2:35:17] So, anyway, to clarify something else is that what I've said time and time again is when people have their own land.

[2:35:28] And they comply with what they're wanting to do.

[2:35:32] Who are we?

[2:35:33] We are not the landslars to tell them no.

[2:35:36] So we have to be able to compare apples to apples.

[2:35:40] And this is an apple to an orange at this point of what's written in here

[2:35:45] in the back up in on the agenda because they're asking us to change.

[2:35:51] They're asking us to change something that they're already zone for.

[2:35:56] And yes, they're able to move forward with 163 homes if this is rejected.

[2:36:04] I get it, but we do have to keep things into perspective.

[2:36:10] Mr. Sutton mentioned in Guassie Grats, layers and helping to correct any of what is that.

[2:36:21] That's why we're going back and forth.

[2:36:23] So is there a plan, because I didn't see it, you can help me here?

[2:36:29] Is there a plan for additional ingress egress to this development, besides winery road?

[2:36:37] First question, when do you plan on commencing if this is approved?

[2:36:45] Thank you, Commissioner Borg.

[2:36:46] Yes, that would be addressed during the tentative map stage, or the final map stage, by

[2:36:51] public works.

[2:36:52] they'd come in, I believe a traffic study has already been conducted on this parcel, and so

[2:36:58] I think they found that, why don't we road plus a road and I apologize, Parsons Road would

[2:37:05] be the one that would address the ingress and egress of the subdivision.

[2:37:12] Where does Parsons Road exit on to?

[2:37:24] Industrial Commissioner.

[2:37:27] So we'll go through and as one of the commenters spoke and said that they have, it's not just one, but there's a few pits that are up there, so Parsons Road, so this will be a well-traveled area for not only commercial, but also residential traffic.

[2:37:48] If this was improved, approved.

[2:37:51] Yes?

[2:37:52] Yes, Commissioner.

[2:37:54] Okay, and then the other question please, Mr. Sutton is, if this was to be approved, when do you plan on building?

[2:38:05] I believe there was a requirement to get the development agreement passed within a year.

[2:38:11] I believe Mr. Sheldon's on the phone, I don't know exactly when the proposed phasing is supposed to happen.

[2:38:18] Okay, so the plan is, the plan is to actually build and not to flip this property.

[2:38:28] I don't know if Mr. Shelton's plan to flip the property or not, but that's not uncommon

[2:38:31] in the development world to have so many get the entitlements for a particular piece of

[2:38:35] property and then develop it.

[2:38:38] I understand, Mr. Sutton, I appreciate your kindness.

[2:38:42] I suppose I'm going to be considered, I'm leading the witness.

[2:38:49] You just can't do it for friendly.

[2:38:53] That's how the rule.

[2:38:54] Oh, I'm not being held still at all.

[2:38:56] I'm not being we're all friends here.

[2:38:58] Yeah, we're trying to make things happen.

[2:39:00] So, you know, something that I read in the back up that really concerns me is

[2:39:07] 21 acres of this project if it was to move forward.

[2:39:11] 21 acres is proposed to be retention basins.

[2:39:17] And park areas. Is that right? That's correct. Yes. So retention basin. I mean, the visual

[2:39:28] that I got. And by the way, I do visit the different properties, things that to the best

[2:39:34] of my ability when I'm back and forth and all over the county. But visual that came to mind

[2:39:41] is the horrific and tragic events that occurred on and at Death Valley when we had all of

[2:39:49] these people in Death Valley and all of a sudden the torrential rains and the floods came

[2:39:56] and they're still missing, and my condolences to.

[2:40:04] We're proposing to have a retention basin up on top of the middle of the fan with a park area for people to go and enjoy. And then at the snap, at the snap of a whip, there could be torrential rains.

[2:40:24] Is this a possibility of a potential catastrophic area being created?

[2:40:33] I

[2:40:36] guess I'm not understanding the question.

[2:40:38] Commissioner, I guess I'm not understanding.

[2:40:40] Are you concerned that the retention basin

[2:40:45] would somehow create a hazard or?

[2:40:53] I mean, if the retention basin is going to capture any water

[2:40:57] that's coming down off the fan into that area,

[2:41:01] why would we put a park there and place people in danger

[2:41:06] potentially in danger.

[2:41:12] Fisher, Jaboor, we've got Bernard, the engineer here, who would like to address your concern.

[2:41:18] Thank you.

[2:41:19] The name is Bernardo, Zane, Z-A-N-I-N, and I am the civil engineer design.

[2:41:26] We have been working for a long time with a drainage study on this one, and the detention

[2:41:33] basin is going to contain the water and let it flow slowly so it doesn't go the way it's

[2:41:42] doing already on the winery so we are going to keep and let it flow in a slow pattern and the

[2:41:53] detention basin is not it's going to be about 5 feet deep by the volume that we calculated and

[2:42:01] with 1, 2, 3 slopes on the sides, so it's not, it won't be any

[2:42:07] hazard for the people over there. And there will be, of course,

[2:42:12] signalling about the flood area. So, it is a dress on the

[2:42:20] seavow side.

[2:42:24] Thank you, Mr. Bergzo. I respectfully disagree.

[2:42:29] I am not an engineer, but I disagree with living in and

[2:42:34] perump and in the Perump Valley, and in

[2:42:37] my county for many, many years and seeing what

[2:42:40] torrential reigns can do and what it does do within

[2:42:43] seconds, within seconds.

[2:42:49] But I appreciate, but I

[2:42:51] appreciate you clarifying, obviously you've addressed it

[2:42:55] because it's a concern.

[2:42:58] As we, if we're

[2:43:01] Anyone, a real big, during the study, there is the property to the north of us that

[2:43:09] we are currently using as a reference as well, and a few other on homestead.

[2:43:16] So we do have analyzed a lot of flows from the Wheeler wash, and we are addressing the best

[2:43:24] as possible.

[2:43:28] Thank you.

[2:43:30] Thank you.

[2:43:31] Thank you, sir.

[2:43:34] It's on your time just for a reason you would ask about the axis and I understand the axis is on Parsons and I understand people don't memorize

[2:43:42] Everyone else's neighborhood. I get it. That's why we have different districts. We represent, but the idea that someone's going to be accessing on Parsons

[2:43:48] And go around in a big circle to go anywhere and then go to one 60 is

[2:43:54] Pretty ridiculous. They're going to obviously go right down to winery and go barreling down winery. So I just want to make that play is it everyone saying and no one's going to go down

[2:44:02] and does trust me, no one's going to go down and do this.

[2:44:04] No one's going to go all the way around two miles around to then go back and on the other side.

[2:44:08] They're going to go right down Parsons.

[2:44:11] And I know it's intended to do and they may even be a little bump out to suggest, but

[2:44:15] that they go not not the shortest distance, but we all know if you want to drive down your break

[2:44:20] and sit there for five minutes in the corner of Homestead, 116, tell me how many people you see

[2:44:23] taking you turns around that ridiculous thing that they put in the middle of the road, you have your answer.

[2:44:29] So we cannot tell people what to do, especially in Toronto.

[2:44:31] They're going to do the opposite if they want to.

[2:44:33] So we cannot direct them not to go right down,

[2:44:36] barely down, and that is my concern.

[2:44:37] Thank you, sir.

[2:44:38] Thank you, Commissioner Bain.

[2:44:40] No, I certainly appreciate that, because

[2:44:43] and I know exactly where you're talking about.

[2:44:48] I understand the proposed

[2:44:50] in Guessi Guessi, the additional proposed in Guessi Guessi,

[2:44:54] which is wonderful because it does have to do with safety

[2:44:59] in your apps.

[2:45:00] Absolutely right. Why would somebody drive all the way around, unless they see the traffic lined up back

[2:45:06] up whether they're going to work. They're going to school. They're going on a pleasure trip for the day.

[2:45:14] But I'm going to turn it back over to you, Chair. I think I'm satisfied with the questions, answers,

[2:45:21] public comments, et cetera. Thank you, Commissioner. Mr. Colleen, you're going to. I don't really

[2:45:27] have anything to add except that. I think Mr. Sutton, you said you're going to put 200 homes

[2:45:36] on 200 acres that's not on 200 acres, it's 98 acres.

[2:45:42] Actually, 88 acres, I apologize. That's what I meant to say.

[2:45:45] Just lead to. Yeah, it was a winery has 100 homes on 40 acres. This is 200 homes on 80 acres.

[2:45:55] Right. Thank you for that clarification.

[2:45:57] So it's still smaller, okay? That's all I had, just smaller than the current, than your loss, because I think they're...

[2:46:07] It's still, well, you're putting 198 homes on 80 acres, around that 7.9, rounded up to 80.

[2:46:21] So it's still less than half an acre.

[2:46:23] Right.

[2:46:26] When you go anything for us?

[2:46:28] Wait, not a motion?

[2:46:34] Anybody going

[2:46:51] to make a motion on this?

[2:46:54] Ian, it's our commissioner.

[2:46:56] Banes your district.

[2:46:57] Whether it's on page 6 of 6 in your back up if you want to read it.

[2:47:03] No, thank you.

[2:47:07] All right.

[2:47:10] This item does not ask for lack of a motion.

[2:47:14] Which means it can come back.

[2:47:20] You can make sure.

[2:47:21] Thank you, guys.

[2:47:25] eight please see if we can speed it up. Item eight 10 AM DIMED item for possible action

[2:47:34] public hearing discussion in deliberation on WV-26-28, a waiver of NCC-16.20.160 for building

[2:47:45] setback requirements at the property located at 108 and 126 South Prospect, Tonopada Vada.

[2:47:52] assessors parcel number 008-142-01 and 008-142-02 Bradley DeBore trust property owner Kevin

[2:48:05] asked you applicant agent. Okay thank you for that all right guys please be

[2:48:10] quiet so we can hear Keanna. Thank you. Yeah I'm a DCQIA and a MEDICI principal

[2:48:19] planner, and I can't be planning.

[2:48:21] The applicant is requesting a waiver from an ICANN code 162160C, as existing structures

[2:48:27] are already located within the setback area identified by the code, and requiring strict

[2:48:32] compliance with the current setback standards would create an unnecessary hardship while providing

[2:48:36] little or no additional public benefit.

[2:48:39] The property owner has submitted a land division map LD-2615, purpose of this parcel map

[2:48:45] is to move the existing property line between the two parcels to create a more practical

[2:48:49] plot layout and improve the future resell value of properties.

[2:48:54] No new parcels are being created as part of this request.

[2:48:57] The adjustment only changes the location of the common boundary between the existing parcels.

[2:49:02] We revise boundary law results and parcels that are more functional, easier to market

[2:49:05] and better suited for future ownership and use.

[2:49:09] Thank you for that.

[2:49:10] All right.

[2:49:10] Let's start with public comment.

[2:49:12] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[2:49:18] No chair.

[2:49:19] Come on down on both.

[2:49:24] Best for Savage B.O.R.Y.

[2:49:26] S.E.W.I.C.H.

[2:49:28] I did not personally go there, but I did do Google Maps.

[2:49:33] And I also did Google Earth.

[2:49:36] There is a mobile home there.

[2:49:38] There's a utility shed.

[2:49:41] There's a demolished home.

[2:49:43] And some other buildings there that can be easily moved.

[2:49:48] I'm not sure that we need to give them a setback.

[2:49:54] I'm not sure this should pass.

[2:49:57] It's the whole area is kind of...

[2:50:01] Oh, I don't even know how to put it. It's just everything seems to be demolished except for the mobile home and the shed. So I'm not sure why they're asking for a setback. They need to clean up the land first before they can determine what they're going to do. They just want to sell the property. It looks like I understand that. However, it should be cleaned up before any determination is made about this. Thank you.

[2:50:31] I'm in anybody on the phone, please.

[2:50:36] No chair.

[2:50:37] I close public comment.

[2:50:39] Commissioners.

[2:50:40] Lots of questions.

[2:50:46] I have no questions, Chair.

[2:50:48] I too know the street and the property of the last

[2:50:52] commenter is correct.

[2:50:53] The whole street looks different, especially from

[2:50:58] Google Earth from above versus on the street.

[2:51:03] But at the same time, this is a formality.

[2:51:07] And I will motion to approve second we have a motion a second I'm going to call for the vote.

[2:51:15] The board is aye.

[2:51:16] Aye.

[2:51:17] Oscar Chai, that carries five zero.

[2:51:18] Thank you.

[2:51:23] If we can do a few more real quick.

[2:51:28] Let's do consent 11 please.

[2:51:40] Do you have to read them?

[2:51:44] Item 11 consent to gen items.

[2:51:46] These are items that staff recommend for approval.

[2:51:49] The board reserves are right to move any consent agenda item to the regular segment of the agenda.

[2:51:54] Should issues arise that need to be addressed?

[2:51:57] Discussion of any item from the consent agenda items that need to review before a decision is made?

[2:52:03] This will be item 11.1, 11.2, 11.3, B only.

[2:52:12] 11.4, A, B and C, 11.5, A, B and C, 11.6, A, B and C.

[2:52:19] 11.7, A-B-N-C, 11.8, A-B-N-C,

[2:52:26] 11.9, A-N-B, and 11.10, A-B-C.

[2:52:33] Okay, thank you for that.

[2:52:34] So I'm going to open up public comment right now on any one of those items.

[2:52:37] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[2:52:43] Yes, Chair.

[2:52:43] The caller is then muted.

[2:52:45] Please, speak and spell your name for the record.

[2:52:49] Yes.

[2:52:53] I saw a grid of lions on here, now I enlarged it, now I lost it, I'm not quite sure why

[2:53:01] the grid of lions is asking for anything.

[2:53:06] That was actually pulled.

[2:53:09] That was a first one.

[2:53:10] Sorry, just be.

[2:53:11] Go ahead.

[2:53:14] So, anyway, if it's got to do with solar farms out there, I don't think anybody's in favor of them getting approved for any change, there's already amount of money.

[2:53:29] If they're on this, I can't find it.

[2:53:33] But I'll wait and listen and see what happens with this. Thank you.

[2:53:37] Thank you.

[2:53:38] Come on down.

[2:53:39] Mr. Pittman.

[2:53:44] Steven Pittman, PIT, M-A-N, 116.

[2:53:47] Can I go there?

[2:53:51] 116 is an Office of Traffic Safety, and I can assure our officer, impairment, enforcement, grant,

[2:53:58] award for $30,000, there is an in-kind match of $7,500, where are we going to find that

[2:54:04] money?

[2:54:06] and 11.7 same thing for traffic safety joining forces grant award and we have to

[2:54:15] come up with a match of 115 and 11.8 and then kind match of 11,250 dollars in the positive

[2:54:27] side 11, 10, the chief has wants to put up two large towers with sirens on them to warn

[2:54:41] of disaster, and that's a good thing, but the rest with these in-kind matches, that's

[2:54:46] a lot of money.

[2:54:48] Where do we get that?

[2:54:48] Thank you, sir.

[2:54:50] Thank you.

[2:54:50] Sam and I will be on the phone, please.

[2:54:54] Yes, Chair.

[2:54:55] The caller is unmuted.

[2:54:56] Please speak in the spelling of your name for the record.

[2:55:01] Welcome, Mr. Nurse Michael Davis, our CGA, our CIA. And I just want to let it be known for the record.

[2:55:09] The reason why we're not using the clock is because nobody knows how to re-program it in two minutes.

[2:55:15] Thank you.

[2:55:17] Absolutely not true. Come on down. Mr. Jackson.

[2:55:25] Angelina Jackson, J. E. C. K. K. So, and so it seems like there's a lot of issues,

[2:55:30] you know, jam packed into, into one here, which is, um, kind of, you know, unclear for

[2:55:39] on a lot of issues here. One is with a grudded lions. I have a friend that lives over

[2:55:44] off a factory road, and grud alliance without notifying her, nobody notified her prior to

[2:55:51] those analogous to the last year. They are over there and they are, when they spray the ground,

[2:55:56] all right, to keep the dust from going, I have pictures where the whole side of her house

[2:56:00] and her yard and everything gets wet. They are out there at three, four in the morning with flood

[2:56:05] lights in her window and diesel trucks running all night. Nobody ever mourned her of this.

[2:56:13] So given them things like this where it's, it doesn't give enough information and like I said,

[2:56:21] I don't understand why so many issues are packed into one,

[2:56:24] because nothing is very clear.

[2:56:26] And neither are the, you know, when they prepare the issue

[2:56:30] to go on the agenda.

[2:56:31] There's nothing on there that's clear on anything at either.

[2:56:36] So that's kind of, you know, I don't understand why it's like that.

[2:56:40] We can't, it's too many issues on one for anybody to comment on,

[2:56:43] especially within two minutes.

[2:56:45] But for the grid alliance, go out there and see where she's at,

[2:56:49] her house is and where they're put they just put down the the slabs for the towers that go up.

[2:56:56] It's literally like for me to you and she's the only house that it's affecting because it's

[2:57:02] she's that far out but nobody's notified her the environmental issues that's going on with this

[2:57:07] because where they have the barrier for the overflow of water it's nothing I mean there's nothing

[2:57:13] standing there anymore there's nothing be you know protected the wall the barrier from her

[2:57:19] retainer wall is literally this far.

[2:57:22] I have pictures and videos of it to show you.

[2:57:24] And this is why I mentioned earlier about it seems

[2:57:28] that it seems to be a thing where the residents

[2:57:31] are being notified or to say something about it.

[2:57:36] Something needs to be done with this.

[2:57:37] So I say no.

[2:57:38] I know of it.

[2:57:39] Thank you.

[2:57:41] I don't know, Linda.

[2:57:46] I've been to Clark, Shale, OK.

[2:57:47] I just want clarification.

[2:57:49] Ron, did you say number 11, you were going to hold aside for something?

[2:57:56] No, it was 11.3 a.

[2:58:01] We took it off.

[2:58:03] 3.8.

[2:58:05] Yeah, that's the one I have a question about.

[2:58:08] Yeah, that one's been pulled.

[2:58:10] Linda, it all come back on another agenda.

[2:58:12] I hope so.

[2:58:13] It was a typo in there.

[2:58:15] Thank you.

[2:58:16] Come on down, Deborah.

[2:58:22] Deborah Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S.

[2:58:31] Grid Alliance has lost lawsuits in three states and multiple countries.

[2:58:45] I would not want them to do anything here because most of it was over contamination.

[2:58:52] Thank you.

[2:58:57] Thank you.

[2:58:59] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

[2:59:01] No chair.

[2:59:03] We're going to close public and we'll listen to chair.

[2:59:06] Can I clear something not going like?

[2:59:08] The grid line side I'm that you guys are voting on is a road remediation agreement.

[2:59:14] For the SUP that you guys approve quite some time ago for the upgrade to their transmission line.

[2:59:22] We're not approving a project, you're approving an agreement so we can get a road fixed if they damage it.

[2:59:30] I just want to clarify that, it sounds like what he just said.

[2:59:35] This is just an agreement so that we would have some kind of recourse and the event that

[2:59:38] arose for our damage.

[2:59:39] That's what I'm told.

[2:59:41] I know there's a lot of confusion here.

[2:59:42] I don't blame anyone on this particular one.

[2:59:44] I don't want to be on the top.

[2:59:45] But I have driven up there and talked to these people up there doing the stuff they're doing

[2:59:49] and they've asked them to do certain things.

[2:59:50] And they've done certain things.

[2:59:52] It's, it's about, it was approved before I got here and it's approved.

[2:59:55] It is what it is, but as far as this is concerned, all this would do is.

[3:00:00] Just give us the ability to have an agreement in case things get destroyed. So that's, I just want to be clear about that for everyone.

[3:00:05] Thank you for the clarification.

[3:00:07] Thank you.

[3:00:08] Morning, Sheriff.

[3:00:09] I'm sorry.

[3:00:10] Good afternoon.

[3:00:12] I just wanted to respond to Mr. Pittman's comment or question.

[3:00:17] Each of the joining forces or traffic safety grants that

[3:00:24] In kind match for each of these items is being met by the fuel cost, we're in terror of the vehicle, the maintenance of the vehicle, so we're not actually having to put out any money to them.

[3:00:37] This is a wash.

[3:00:41] Thank you.

[3:00:42] Thank you, sir.

[3:00:44] Okay.

[3:00:44] It gives me a chair, go ahead, go ahead.

[3:00:47] Go ahead.

[3:00:47] I'm going to share your board.

[3:00:49] Thank you.

[3:00:50] Oh, Joe.

[3:00:51] Before you walk away.

[3:00:55] That wasn't the only one that was unclear.

[3:00:58] And if you could, Sheriff, I mean, 11.6, 11.7, 11.8.

[3:01:04] These are all being funded from one zero, three, four, zero grants, as well as the

[3:01:12] Chiefs item 11.10 funding from 10340 grant.

[3:01:18] So could you help clarify that those as well, Sheriff, to satisfy the questions from the public please?

[3:01:30] If I can, as I understand it is that the money is given to the county from the state and the

[3:01:44] Does that answer your question?

[3:01:52] And the end kind is met the same way as the end kind is all the same way that you mentioned for the other one.

[3:01:57] Thank you, Sheriff.

[3:02:04] Thank you, Commissioner.

[3:02:05] It is.

[3:02:06] Is somebody speaking to you, Sheriff?

[3:02:08] No.

[3:02:10] Oh, you are.

[3:02:12] No.

[3:02:13] I see you're looking over to the left.

[3:02:16] Are you looking on screen?

[3:02:17] Yeah.

[3:02:19] Okay.

[3:02:20] Thank you.

[3:02:22] Just anxiously awaiting your next question.

[3:02:27] I'm satisfied, Chair.

[3:02:29] Thank you.

[3:02:30] I'd like to clarify.

[3:02:31] That's all.

[3:02:32] Thank you.

[3:02:33] Thank you.

[3:02:33] Sir, sir, I'd like to make a motion to approve all consent items as written.

[3:02:37] That's good.

[3:02:37] Perfect.

[3:02:38] Motion and a second.

[3:02:39] I'm going to call for the vote.

[3:02:42] To Bores aye.

[3:02:44] Oscar.

[3:02:44] Aye.

[3:02:45] That's five zero.

[3:02:46] Thank you.

[3:02:46] 19, please.

[3:02:55] Item 19 for possible action, discussion, and deliberation regarding

[3:02:59] Proclamation number P-2026, that's 06 declaring September 2026,

[3:03:07] service dog month in 9 County.

[3:03:10] Thank you for that.

[3:03:12] All right, who's presenting on this?

[3:03:14] I thought, really, I thought.

[3:03:16] All right, this is a public petitioner item.

[3:03:18] If the petitioner is on the phone, they'll need to press star

[3:03:20] to raise their hand to be unmuted. If they are unavailable, we can just proceed as pretty

[3:03:26] self-explanatory.

[3:03:30] Okay, let's open up public comment on this guy and see if there's anybody

[3:03:33] that wants to speak.

[3:03:40] 19. All right closing public comment. Motion to approve is written.

[3:03:47] Motion to seconds. Motion to seconds, all those in favor. All right. All right.

[3:03:51] All right, five, five, zero. Thank you very much. All right, so we're going to do 20 and then we're

[3:03:59] And Paul what?

[3:04:01] No what?

[3:04:03] Dude him after?

[3:04:05] Okay.

[3:04:08] Okay.

[3:04:09] That's okay.

[3:04:12] Let's...

[3:04:13] Hold on sir.

[3:04:20] Yeah.

[3:04:21] Which one?

[3:04:23] Which one?

[3:04:24] All right. Let's break.

[3:04:25] Let's be back at 2.30.

[3:05:13] They'll be joining shortly.

[3:05:18] Paul, don't be mad at me, but I have to bump you. I know.

[3:05:25] I'm sorry.

[3:05:28] We're doing nine. We have to do nine. Sure. You just leave it right there.

[3:05:47] All right, commissioners up north or back. Lorina are you with us? I'm here. Thank you. May I do nine, please?

[3:05:55] Or you do nine please.

[3:05:59] Yes.

[3:06:00] I have nine please.

[3:06:02] I have nine.

[3:06:03] Ten o'clock a.

[3:06:04] And for possible action public hearing

[3:06:06] Discussion and deliberation to a

[3:06:09] Declare two four six one.

[3:06:10] Self-mallowed Avenue.

[3:06:11] Prompt Nevada.

[3:06:12] A public nuisance.

[3:06:13] Consisting of an unsafe unhealthful condition.

[3:06:16] Which poses a public health and safety hazard.

[3:06:19] Be it declared a public nuisance.

[3:06:20] Establish a reasonable time for any

[3:06:23] Now, Turner, who is the property owner to repair a bait or remove the public nuisance, see if the public nuisance is not evaded within the time period designated direct staff to utilize the abatement, procedures to abate the hazard by removing or causing the removal of the hazardous conditions.

[3:06:38] D establish a funding source to pay for the abatement, E apply a special assessment against

[3:06:44] the real property and the amount of the total cost of the abatement, assessors parcel

[3:06:48] number zero four two four nine three zero four location two four six one self-mallard avenue

[3:06:54] pertinent about a property owner and the alternator.

[3:07:04] Hey Brian, D.A. Do we need, do we need to swear anyone in, do we need a script? Do we need

[3:07:12] I gave you the scripts last time. I didn't make any new ones.

[3:07:16] That's true.

[3:07:18] Shall we open another item?

[3:07:21] Another item while we do it.

[3:07:22] And we'll find the script please.

[3:07:25] Can we get a script please from staff for me that last time?

[3:07:27] In fact, I'm going to turn this over to Bruce.

[3:07:32] Chairman Jebore for the Rhodes.

[3:07:34] Number 10 please.

[3:07:36] We'll continue nine.

[3:07:37] Item 10.

[3:07:38] Item 10.

[3:07:39] possible action discussion and deliberation regarding the general road report by the public

[3:07:44] work director on general road maintenance, gravel road maintenance, asphalt patching,

[3:07:48] wind, mowing and direction regarding public works projects.

[3:07:53] Thank you, Lorena.

[3:07:55] Is Bo or Tom?

[3:07:58] Bo's with us, sir.

[3:08:00] Well, please proceed.

[3:08:04] Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

[3:08:06] Bo got GOTT.

[3:08:08] Assistant Public Works Director.

[3:08:10] Okay, so 9 County Public Works has received 448 maintenance requests since the beginning of this year.

[3:08:18] So far 287 of those have been completed.

[3:08:22] 57 were not relative leaving 104 unresolved.

[3:08:28] Most requests continue to be for pot holes with the slide-up rise and mowing requests over the past month.

[3:08:35] patching crews continue to be out daily, and the moors I've been focusing on areas around the schools,

[3:08:41] they're the ditches for the students that are walking a school.

[3:08:49] Last week, the Travel Crew completed just over five miles of scrub seal in Tonepaw,

[3:08:54] which will complete all of the chip and scrub seals outside of the prump area for the year.

[3:09:00] Over the next two weeks, the crew will finish up with the three and a half miles of

[3:09:05] The ship road is left on the list for this year.

[3:09:08] I'm bringing the total of roads completed and prompt at 23 models.

[3:09:14] And for just over 32 miles throughout the county.

[3:09:18] The crew will continue scrub ceiling some major asphalt roads and for ramp,

[3:09:22] with some extensive work on sections of black, basin, Wilson,

[3:09:26] Gamberd, East and West, and Hunny Circle,

[3:09:30] Streets throughout the month of September.

[3:09:35] Recently, outlying areas around Tone of Onbady have been hit with some flood activity.

[3:09:42] Over the last month, crews will be working on repairs and gravel road maintenance to bring

[3:09:47] the roads back up to normal status.

[3:09:52] Just one more thing I want to go over regarding the addition of some batch funds.

[3:10:00] That we received.

[3:10:03] We currently have spent $761,582.96, that's as up to day. There may be a few invoices I haven't been processed yet, leading us with 230,480,417 dollars in 10 cents left.

[3:10:27] I'm open for any questions.

[3:10:31] Thank you, Bob.

[3:10:33] Do you wish us any questions for the system director before I open it up for public comment?

[3:10:39] I have none, sir.

[3:10:41] I have nothing.

[3:10:41] Thank you.

[3:10:43] Thank you.

[3:10:44] Thank you.

[3:10:44] Let me open this up for public comment.

[3:10:51] Anybody on the phone, please, Sam?

[3:10:53] Yes, sir.

[3:10:54] We're calling it.

[3:10:55] Item number 10.

[3:10:57] Yes, sir.

[3:10:57] The caller is unmuted.

[3:10:58] Please speak and call your name for the record.

[3:11:00] I

[3:11:05] was calling on nine.

[3:11:09] Thank you.

[3:11:11] We will get back to nine in just a few minutes.

[3:11:14] We're on number 10 right now.

[3:11:16] I weighs in Rhodes commission.

[3:11:18] Anybody else on the phone, please say?

[3:11:20] We don't have anybody in chambers.

[3:11:23] Yes, Chair.

[3:11:23] Thank you.

[3:11:24] Thank you.

[3:11:25] It is unmuted.

[3:11:26] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[3:11:30] Yes, Amy Nelson.

[3:11:32] Any else?

[3:11:33] I'm glad you mentioned mowing where the students walk.

[3:11:36] It came up in a conversation on Facebook last week, on Barney, kids walk from all the way up close to basin, down to Barney and prospector, to catch the bus, and those side weeds are really high, they're really bad, so maybe they can check out over there where these kids walk, so they're not walking in the street.

[3:12:05] Thank you.

[3:12:08] Thank you, Amy, for that.

[3:12:11] That's very important.

[3:12:12] Anybody else on the phone, please?

[3:12:15] Yes, Chair.

[3:12:16] The caller is unmuted.

[3:12:17] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[3:12:23] I can hear you, Michael.

[3:12:28] Thank you.

[3:12:31] Thank you.

[3:12:32] Thank you.

[3:12:33] Thank you.

[3:12:36] We know when good it can't go up and beyond their pay wages and cover up or help alleviate

[3:12:45] the strain from your negative mark.

[3:12:48] So, the show a little appreciate it when we deal with this guy.

[3:12:52] Thank you.

[3:12:53] Thank you.

[3:12:55] Anybody else on the phone, please?

[3:12:57] No chair.

[3:13:00] Thank you.

[3:13:01] I'll close public comment at this time.

[3:13:03] any other questions for the system director Bogotte?

[3:13:08] I think for me, sir.

[3:13:10] But I just want to thank you.

[3:13:13] Go ahead, Commissioner Conic.

[3:13:14] I was just going to say nothing here.

[3:13:16] He looks too comfortable sitting there.

[3:13:18] He's very comfortable, yeah.

[3:13:20] They're comfortable seats.

[3:13:23] Chair?

[3:13:23] Well, I just want to thank you again.

[3:13:25] Go ahead, Commissioner.

[3:13:27] We are slow with our getting back to you with that lag,

[3:13:30] aren't we, Chair?

[3:13:31] Thank you.

[3:13:32] It is, they go for the second leg.

[3:13:35] You're so used to it.

[3:13:36] I just wanted to say thank you for moving forward

[3:13:39] with spending the million dollars

[3:13:41] and having a little over $238,000 left.

[3:13:45] I'm sure by the next month, that'll be all gone.

[3:13:47] Thank you very much.

[3:13:48] Thank you, Chair.

[3:13:50] Thank you.

[3:13:51] Thank you, Commissioner Bain.

[3:13:52] Did you have anything?

[3:13:54] So, Bob, speaking of which, of course,

[3:13:57] we want you to utilize this money

[3:13:59] in the most efficient way possible.

[3:14:01] So there's, there's the tangible, the visual for the people as they're driving over what they once knew as pod holes, etc.

[3:14:10] As you say, the majority of calls come in and concerns are over pod holes.

[3:14:16] So throughout the county, I'm sure that it is.

[3:14:18] I know that it's appreciative and also I want to thank you and your team.

[3:14:23] you were up here during the scrub and chip seal program for many of the streets here in Tone

[3:14:31] upon the area and thank you and the team again because it's very, very noticeable right

[3:14:42] and it's delightful to an pleasure to finally drive on areas that people try to avoid

[3:14:50] go to different side streets, right? So you know what I'm trying to thank you for being hands-on

[3:14:56] and being up here during that project. I'm you and your team.

[3:15:01] All right. Thank you.

[3:15:05] And next time, hopefully you'll have another presentation, PowerPoint for us. I know that the public really enjoyed that because they were able to actually see the different areas of the county that we're being addressed by you and your team.

[3:15:21] Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I was really struggling to come up with some material over a month.

[3:15:25] Um, I think I could probably make it work every, like, quarterly, come up with the presentation.

[3:15:32] Um, you know, road work is pretty extensive and, uh, you know, what she get done at a

[3:15:37] month doesn't look really good on a presentation and not many people are going to notice it.

[3:15:41] It's just very time consuming, um, and also with being out of town and, and a ton of

[3:15:46] Paul last year has made a little difficult for me to put anything together.

[3:15:50] So, I understand it not to waste your time, my bow, we want it to be meaningful, doesn't have to be redundant, we don't want it to be redundant.

[3:16:00] So, just a verbal report and every quarter, I think that would be acceptable to do a PowerPoint, a presentation, a video presentation, whatever you're going to put together.

[3:16:10] Okay, thank you for understanding.

[3:16:11] Thank you.

[3:16:12] I'll go back to my comfortable spot down there.

[3:16:15] Obviously, I don't like public speaking so much more complicated and then the seat.

[3:16:19] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You're doing a good job. Thank you, Director. And I'll turn this back over to the BLCC chair.

[3:16:27] Well, I'm going to ask you.

[3:16:28] Thank you. Thank you very much, Chair. And thank you, Bo, and your your guys' team as well.

[3:16:34] All right. Let's see. What are we going to do now?

[3:16:39] Let's do.

[3:16:42] Okay.

[3:16:43] Nine again.

[3:16:47] Do commissioners in Tonopal have the script for nine.

[3:16:52] If you throw it, Commissioner Strickland, I'll try to catch it from the screen.

[3:16:57] I told you I would appreciate your view today with something.

[3:17:02] That's a good one.

[3:17:03] I

[3:17:05] always miss his jokes when he's not here.

[3:17:07] I know.

[3:17:08] I love this.

[3:17:09] All right.

[3:17:10] So once we know they have their scripts, we can move on with number nine.

[3:17:17] It's already been read.

[3:17:19] Okay.

[3:17:21] He's absolutely right.

[3:17:22] It's already been read.

[3:17:23] Okay.

[3:17:24] Here we are back on number nine.

[3:17:25] This is a hearing to show cause to determine if a nuisance exists on property

[3:17:29] located at 2461 South Mallard Avenue,

[3:17:33] for Rump Nevada,

[3:17:34] pursuant tonight county code 17.04.860.

[3:17:40] Well, the representatives of the Planning Department,

[3:17:43] please state your full names for the record.

[3:17:50] Rob, hi, H-I-G-H-T.

[3:17:54] So, last sendable, S-A-N-D-O-V-A-L.

[3:17:57] Thank you for that.

[3:17:58] Have you reviewed the backup documentation submitted

[3:18:01] for this agenda item?

[3:18:04] Yes?

[3:18:06] Is the documentation true and accurate documentation of the notices provided to the owner

[3:18:11] and accurately depict the condition of the subject property?

[3:18:16] The backup isn't completely up to date.

[3:18:21] The RVs are gone.

[3:18:23] They're still some junk and debris remaining.

[3:18:28] Including a couch, if you want one.

[3:18:31] Well, is it leather?

[3:18:32] Now, go, go, may need that couch in the back.

[3:18:43] Please summarize the health and safety concerns you observed regarding this property.

[3:18:47] Thank you, Swena.

[3:18:50] There's enough junk and debris that it would probably be a place where pests could be attracted to.

[3:18:58] I think that would be the main health and safety issue with that property at this time.

[3:19:06] Are there any questions from any board member?

[3:19:11] Yes, sir.

[3:19:13] Go ahead, sir.

[3:19:15] Thank you.

[3:19:17] Rob, sir.

[3:19:17] Thank you for being here today and giving us that update that's important.

[3:19:23] I have some questions, please.

[3:19:29] I would like to ask where does the granddaughter reside, please?

[3:19:36] I believe she resides in Michigan.

[3:19:40] Thank you.

[3:19:42] And reviewing and reviewing the backup,

[3:19:46] it shows that the owner misses Turner,

[3:19:49] unfortunately passed away sometime in July,

[3:19:52] twenty twenty six is that right. That is correct. Yes, okay. So.

[3:20:00] So, again, looking at some of these photos, it's a fence that's not completely fence, but it's fence property.

[3:20:10] As you know, that you've all done your due diligence, you've posted, you've reposted, you've posted again.

[3:20:20] Okay, where Mrs. Turner has passed away, just last month.

[3:20:26] Okay, let's, let's, let's be realistic.

[3:20:30] Karen, it's been just one month, I don't think that it's fair

[3:20:34] that the air to the property, the granddaughter,

[3:20:40] residing in Michigan, or if she was in California,

[3:20:43] or even here in the state of Nevada,

[3:20:46] that a reasonable time frame is what's been recommended

[3:20:50] as far as September 14, 2026.

[3:20:54] I just wanted that on the record please, and for you to take that into consideration as we also consider through public common and the other comments from the commissioners.

[3:21:06] Yeah, it's been, the abatement letters were sent before she passed away, so otherwise we might have acted differently.

[3:21:17] No, I'm not, I'm not criticizing, I'm not criticizing your rug or Celeste or the department of who's been involved.

[3:21:28] You had no idea that the owner of the property was going to, or was ill, or was even going to be departing this world just so soon.

[3:21:44] But with this as part of the information and evidence, as this being a nuisance, I'm going to say and stand behind saying that it's totally unfair,

[3:21:55] that an unreasonable to have here is a recommendation of September 14th, 2026, according to our policy with this hearing as a requirement to either deem it or not deem it in a new sense.

[3:22:14] Again, for the record.

[3:22:19] Mr. Chairman, I have a few questions.

[3:22:25] I don't know who wrote this, so I'll be delicate.

[3:22:29] Granddad, there's a note of, as D to Pondeth, D to Pondeth, D to Pondeth, D to Pondeth,

[3:22:32] but it's not recorded.

[3:22:34] I don't know the Nevada law, such that it's a condition precedent to the execution of D to Pondeth,

[3:22:40] to be recorded.

[3:22:41] Doesn't it have to be recorded prior to being executed?

[3:22:45] I don't think it has to be recorded.

[3:22:47] I think that's one of the, I don't think you do, I'm sorry.

[3:22:50] I believe that's what I got to see in property law,

[3:22:52] but I do believe that it has to be executed prior to the death

[3:22:58] or it's not valid.

[3:23:00] So I don't, is that correct?

[3:23:01] So that is correct.

[3:23:02] So that is irrelevant.

[3:23:03] So this person does not own this property.

[3:23:06] That is what we think also.

[3:23:09] OK, so we can set that aside.

[3:23:11] What's this is inaccurate?

[3:23:12] We can set that aside.

[3:23:13] This person you're talking to is on property.

[3:23:15] So has it probably been opened, do we know?

[3:23:19] I believe Susan's last conversation

[3:23:22] with the niece and the brother that it it was they were going to be starting the process.

[3:23:27] You're going to be starting the process. Was this already debated when it was a house

[3:23:31] and burned down and there was some kind of problems there in the past? It was a pretty

[3:23:36] sense and I do believe it was a house fire yes and then. So it's already been debated. It's already been

[3:23:42] on fire. Garrett is down here we go again and this whoever he is coming in there. So this isn't as

[3:23:48] someone who doesn't own the property now is saying they want the property let's say

[3:23:53] have a time machine if so I like to get in and undo some of the things I've done

[3:23:57] in my life this does not she does not own it there is a brother of the deceased that

[3:24:09] everything would fall to that he is now the one who is willing to take responsibility

[3:24:15] Well, he doesn't have a lead. He has a bigger stance than what he was I do for the project unless the probates open the judge makes that decision not us

[3:24:22] Me not the DA. So that's just not relevant the problem here is that you have a pattern of abuse where people have been coming on the property

[3:24:29] I went out there with

[3:24:32] Tenaclons are and Sergeant Augustine same thing. Oh, we own the property. Oh, we own the property

[3:24:37] And they've been saying I was out there five times at least talking to people or three to five times talking to others

[3:24:43] the pattern of people coming in there, telling deputies,

[3:24:46] we own the place, say, get out of here,

[3:24:48] we own the place, and then here come RVs,

[3:24:50] and then they're burning campfires,

[3:24:52] and one time there are sheriff's deputies showing up

[3:24:54] with, there's, I did not pull the guy forgot to do,

[3:24:57] so I was gonna ask where you just, I didn't do this.

[3:24:59] There was all,

[3:25:00] I know there's nine one calls, there are quite a few nine one calls. I'm sure there's somebody on the phone who will speak to that, so I won't do that. But this is not a surprise situation. Everyone associate with this property and apparently most people associate with the claim ownership of it, I might as well claim ownership of it myself. And so everyone is aware. There's definitely not a notice. We don't have a due process problem here because seems that everyone in town knows what's going on with this property, including us.

[3:25:29] So I have to just do this for the people who live on that street I already feel bad because you know

[3:25:34] There's some flooding stuff going on and I always were pretty feel really bad about not being able to fix that

[3:25:38] But maybe I would I wouldn't mind hearing from you know testimony and as far as public comment

[3:25:45] If we can do that Mr. Chairman sometime soon. Thank you. We will definitely do that commissioner. It's on our list here

[3:25:56] Okay

[3:25:58] If the property owners are present, please come forward.

[3:26:04] Is there anyone on the phone, Sam?

[3:26:06] It would be very long, doesn't it?

[3:26:08] I do have hands raised.

[3:26:11] The caller is unmuted.

[3:26:12] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[3:26:17] Lisa Staudelman, STA, KTEL, in the end.

[3:26:22] I'm a neighbor of this property and kind of talking for all the neighbors here.

[3:26:26] I do have to correct you because Annie Turner died in April of 2024 and was taken from

[3:26:34] because she had dementia.

[3:26:39] So the house was burned down in November of 2024.

[3:26:45] So, ma'am, I am sorry, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am.

[3:26:48] Chair, I believe that this is public comment, this is not the owner of the property,

[3:26:54] this is correct.

[3:26:54] President, so I think that we need to ask her to call back if you

[3:26:58] can. If you hold tight, man, we will get right back to you, okay?

[3:27:06] There's nobody. There is no.

[3:27:11] So the death date, we're working on the family, telling us, you know, when

[3:27:15] sooner passed. So this is two, two plus years. Okay. Any questions from any

[3:27:21] of the board?

[3:27:25] Let's, I've got one question.

[3:27:28] Is the public administrator involved in this property?

[3:27:32] Susan did contact Ginger and she is not to receive this property.

[3:27:39] Okay, so we're going to continue on here.

[3:27:41] President and I county code 17.040860k2.

[3:27:46] If the property owner is failed to appear, the commissioner may proceed with the hearing and take any

[3:27:50] enforcement action deemed appropriate.

[3:27:53] Now we're going to open public comment and see what we have for that.

[3:27:57] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[3:28:02] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[3:28:03] Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[3:28:08] Okay, Lisa Salomon, S-P-A-T-T-E-L-M-A-N.

[3:28:14] I am a neighbor, a new Annie Turner.

[3:28:17] She was moved away in 2023, I believe, or 22.

[3:28:23] She passed away in April of 2004 and people moved into that home in November

[3:28:30] and burn it down with the mess lab in November of 2024.

[3:28:35] In April of this year, those same people came back

[3:28:39] and opened a homeless encampments.

[3:28:43] And by all vision, it is a drug dealing operation,

[3:28:50] also, the traffic, we believe that coming in and out,

[3:28:53] all hours in and out quick,

[3:28:57] Even though they removed the RV and the fifth wheel, like the folks said, there's so much trash there and everything, it's ridiculous.

[3:29:08] And they're still dropping off people a few blocks away, walking in in the middle of the night, walking out. We all have cameras on our homes.

[3:29:16] So we all know this is going on. That's why there's been 911 calls.

[3:29:20] So, we still believe there's drugs going on there.

[3:29:24] Been terrible for a neighborhood or property values and since the neighbor is in any

[3:29:29] to cease, I couldn't get ahold of anybody except her son through messenger and he never

[3:29:37] after he, I told him, he never responded back to me.

[3:29:41] Now the police and the county, I believe, have done everything they can and been very, very

[3:29:46] helpful to all of us.

[3:29:48] I think this property should be evaded immediately because I don't want these people coming

[3:29:53] back a third time.

[3:29:55] Notice this has been posted.

[3:29:56] The sense is not complete and we'd like it complete.

[3:30:00] So, nobody can go back into that property because her family didn't Chicago. And they're not involved at all. Never were when she was here either. Except her grandson, who I think promoted all this action.

[3:30:15] But notices have been posted, they give in another two weeks after the last meeting, and we just, like, thank you for your concern.

[3:30:25] Yep, thank you very much for that. That was very informative. Come on down.

[3:30:30] Susie.

[3:30:33] Susie here. It's H-E-R-T-Z.

[3:30:35] I would think that it's pretty easy to determine when the owner of the property died.

[3:30:42] It's public record.

[3:30:43] So how come we don't have that information here today?

[3:30:47] Why are we looking at that whole situation if that's a relevant issue?

[3:30:52] That should have been researched and determined.

[3:30:56] You have here say from neighbors and then what Celeste was saying is maybe from the granddaughter we think we know this.

[3:31:05] But that's public record.

[3:31:08] So we need to get our act together.

[3:31:10] Thank you.

[3:31:11] Thank you, Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[3:31:14] Yes, Chair.

[3:31:15] The caller is unmuted.

[3:31:16] Please, speak in the spelling or name for the record.

[3:31:20] Hello, Commissioner.

[3:31:35] Once again, it goes back to notice.

[3:31:38] You know, the main property notice not to you.

[3:31:43] You know, if you want to take an act and take an act and then fill it against this date,

[3:31:46] whether that's not as far in the state and that, but the new process has

[3:31:53] to

[3:31:54] marry around here

[3:31:58] to proceed with this amendment.

[3:32:11] Thank you, Sam, do we have anybody else, please?

[3:32:15] Yes, Chair.

[3:32:15] And I'd like to thank all of our colleagues on muted.

[3:32:16] Please speak in the following name for the record.

[3:32:21] Yeah, saying me Nelson.

[3:32:22] Any else?

[3:32:24] I'm glad the neighbor called in.

[3:32:26] And I'm explaining to you what's been going on.

[3:32:29] I've had a couple of people.

[3:32:31] Talk to me.

[3:32:32] And they're really in favor of the abatement.

[3:32:35] And like she said,

[3:32:37] It's been a blight in the neighborhood.

[3:32:39] And actually kind of dangerous.

[3:32:41] For the kinds of people that are attracted there.

[3:32:44] But that's my true sense. Thank you very much.

[3:32:48] Thanks, Amy.

[3:32:49] I'm downpulled.

[3:32:51] I'm dying off here.

[3:32:53] All right.

[3:32:54] Yeah.

[3:32:54] I need some water.

[3:32:56] I always tell my boy drinks some water.

[3:33:01] I'd like to say that if due processes brought up multiple times here, we could all consider maybe.

[3:33:08] Paul Lemus, LEM, US.

[3:33:10] If due processes brought up multiple times by the community, you know,

[3:33:14] the problem, one of the inconsistencies with the International Property Maintenance Code, and

[3:33:18] why it was repealed from law here in Night County, was due to the fact that there was

[3:33:23] no proper due process there.

[3:33:25] And so what you can do, though, is you could maybe form an ad hoc committee would be a suggestion,

[3:33:31] and then have a committee that does the appeals, the proper appeals, maybe even you could

[3:33:35] label OMS Budsmen.

[3:33:37] I know Mr. Wagner's doing a good job, but he's got so much to do, maybe you could get

[3:33:41] position and ad hoc committee, just a possibility, and then add that too. So when you're

[3:33:46] giving these people, these leans, they still have one chance to appeal it before they lose

[3:33:51] it all the way. And that way, you've not only done due process by all your proper notifications,

[3:33:56] but you followed through by even giving them a second step to retain or regain their property back.

[3:34:01] Just a suggestion. Thank you for that, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please?

[3:34:08] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

[3:34:13] Bruce Johnson, J.O.H. and S.O.A.N. and now let me give you my opinion.

[3:34:20] Clean the property off.

[3:34:22] Remove the people, that's the benefit of the benefit of the people.

[3:34:27] If you remove the vagrants, it seems to have gone in there and squatted.

[3:34:32] You have every authority to dwell.

[3:34:35] As far as taking their process without the due process of law, you don't have any authority to do that.

[3:34:41] because we're talking about it to see this person here that I can't defend themselves.

[3:34:47] So you need to allow that process to work itself out through the state of the COVID and

[3:34:53] the administrator. But you guys do have authority to go deal with the crackheads that have

[3:35:14] Thank you, Sam. Thank you, Sam. Anybody else in the phone was?

[3:35:18] Yes. Chair, I think it might be a repeat to caller. They're unmuted. Please speak its value for the record.

[3:35:25] My

[3:35:28] name's Darrell Young, I owe you in G. I'm a neighbor and a friend of Anna, Anna Turner,

[3:35:35] and I have her obituary in front of me right now. She passed away on April 11, 2024. Shortly after

[3:35:44] that, her grandson moved all his drug buddy friends into the house, and they were the ones

[3:35:51] that burned the house down, and I filed the original complaint against the house and you guys

[3:35:56] and clean the property, and then they turned around and came back in with all these trailers

[3:36:02] and RVs and all this junk and it was the same people.

[3:36:05] So this has been going on for four years, four years, and I've been going on.

[3:36:10] So it's time to clean this place up, get these people out and fence it off.

[3:36:14] It's just starting our neighborhood.

[3:36:18] Thank you very much, sir.

[3:36:19] I don't disagree.

[3:36:20] Sam anybody else, please.

[3:36:21] Thank you.

[3:36:22] No chair.

[3:36:23] All right.

[3:36:23] We're going to close public comment.

[3:36:24] Mr. Chairman, just follow up a question from the officers

[3:36:29] of the county.

[3:36:31] Sure.

[3:36:32] Is that acceptable?

[3:36:33] No, yeah.

[3:36:34] I just have, so my question is, I just want to make sure

[3:36:36] that we get this right.

[3:36:39] So when you're tweeting the granddaughters

[3:36:40] an order as dead of deed of death, deed of property,

[3:36:43] is that just all orally verbally communicated?

[3:36:48] How did you, why did you write that?

[3:36:51] Susan did have a phone conversation, and I'm sorry.

[3:36:54] she's not here. She did have a phone conversation with the granddaughter, and I believe the granddaughter did send her a copy of that over and that's when Susan realized it, you know, it hasn't been recorded.

[3:37:05] Okay.

[3:37:05] But was it still unrecorded? That person is still at the owner now. That would be sitting somewhere, not being posted. So that's entirely possible. My question is, did someone admit to it not being recorded in time or was that something that we came to the conclusion of?

[3:37:22] The granddaughter said that she did not know that it needed to be recorded before she passed away.

[3:37:29] Okay, so the DA's not here, but he has said, and I don't know if it was on the record that you can look it up.

[3:37:33] It's probably there.

[3:37:34] I know in California it is.

[3:37:34] I don't know about Nevada.

[3:37:35] That was a really similar has to be recorded prior to death, obviously, because it's a special thing.

[3:37:43] One of the points that I just want to make is in the event that this is a person that was taken to some kind of care.

[3:37:49] there will likely be a big bill for that care.

[3:37:54] And so anybody opening Crow Bay will likely not recover the price

[3:38:00] in the cost of this and if they're asked to pay back all of the care fees,

[3:38:05] which could be 200,000.

[3:38:06] And my mother died after being a nursing over two years,

[3:38:09] it was like three and some thousand dollars.

[3:38:11] So that's how that works.

[3:38:13] So I don't know that it might fears that no one will open Crow Bay for this.

[3:38:19] As far as, you know, someone said that they looked and they have an obituary, and I don't doubt that.

[3:38:26] I had a family member in Cook County, the Illinois, the same place that we thought was dead.

[3:38:32] I called my uncle who was assistant chief police somewhere, and he couldn't figure it out.

[3:38:36] I don't know how I couldn't figure it out.

[3:38:37] But he didn't even know as assistant chief police in Illinois, the Chicago suburb.

[3:38:41] There's no button you can press to find out if you were dead.

[3:38:44] Cook County is notorious. I have gotten records from Cook County. It's not fun. It's notorious.

[3:38:49] Lee hard to get records from. I was born there. So, um, so my concerns if we don't do anything.

[3:38:55] It could never open pro of a no one could ever do anything. It would just continue in the state.

[3:38:59] It's been sounding like for about two plus years.

[3:39:02] I would really like to make a motion to give these people some relief. I feel very bad personally.

[3:39:06] And, but I'll wait until they appropriate time. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[3:39:09] Mr. Chair.

[3:39:10] Go ahead, sir.

[3:39:11] Thank you, and so we had two folks calling through public comment, giving us dates of the deceased, and I have here a date of June 9th, 2026, a bituary, where Mr. Turner moved to Perupp Nevada and family returned to Chicago, Illinois.

[3:39:40] it's one in the same person. So we have three different dates. June 9th, 2026. In the

[3:39:47] backup, it clearly reads the July was the date. So they're off by one month. Okay. And we go

[3:39:54] by the backup. We appreciate the neighbors calling in. But we're going by the ongoing by the backup.

[3:40:00] And looking it up in the obituary where you said you can't push a button, commissioner. But I looked it up myself. June 9th, 2026. It's not that's not in the back of it. So second page it leads July. It reads that according to the owner was and Turner passed away last month. This was the date here is August 5th, 2026.

[3:40:28] brings us to July and

[3:40:42] this has not been recorded for the record, this has not been recorded

[3:40:46] with the county recorder

[3:40:51] as of today, according to the recorder.

[3:41:00] So, Commissioner Jabor, are you seeking more time, are you, I mean, what would you think?

[3:41:08] I'm giving it to Chair, I'm giving more information, more information, okay, to help support

[3:41:15] What, what code enforcement has been doing, again, I'm not challenging or criticizing their diligent work and putting this information together.

[3:41:28] It's very difficult when you don't have people on the property.

[3:41:31] Question I have is, so this is a beta.

[3:41:35] Bated property, properties, totally fenced, and then how are we going to prohibit and stop?

[3:41:43] We'll call them vagrants, homeless, I'd like you to.

[3:41:47] How are we going to stop them from coming on this proper?

[3:41:50] So they're, and I've been inside the property.

[3:41:52] There is a fence.

[3:41:54] The problem is someone has kicked the fence in the front.

[3:41:57] Now, when we evaded the building on West Street that was on fire,

[3:42:00] what was really great about what they did was,

[3:42:03] was that they did a really good job fencing.

[3:42:07] So when we did that, a good job to you,

[3:42:09] that's a great, of course, that's been kicked in since then, but no one's there.

[3:42:13] The point I'm making is as long as we have, if we evaded, as long as we can secure it with

[3:42:17] the same kind of fence, I don't know that we have anyone sophisticated enough to breach

[3:42:21] that fence with whatever they've got.

[3:42:25] So that's what I would, I mean, that's what I would like to do, and I'm happy to make a discussion

[3:42:29] about it.

[3:42:29] I don't think it would be that costly to remove what's there, at least from last week on

[3:42:34] drove by a couple days ago, Sunday, and I drove by. And it just, it was looking much, it's just

[3:42:40] trash there or something like just kind of in piles. So I don't, I don't think it's, it's not like one

[3:42:45] of these things where it's been embedded into the ground or there's any kind of like waste,

[3:42:49] issue, the RVs have been removed unless they're back. But I would like to do a motion to remove

[3:42:56] the trash and then to secure the property with a fence. I don't know how this works. I know we have

[3:43:02] incoming administrator, and I'm out of my element for this, but we do need to maybe notify

[3:43:08] that this is likely to be as cheated to the state. I don't know why that works.

[3:43:14] I don't really care. It's not my jurisdiction, but I would be pretty surprised if someone

[3:43:18] stepped forward and took possession of this property. So I don't know if that's part of this

[3:43:22] motion. Is this part of that motion? If it... No, we just... We just abated, and then we just keep an eye

[3:43:27] on it. I think that's what we do. But that's my concern is it's going to sit.

[3:43:32] However it is, that your motion, commissioner, if it is, I'm sorry, I don't know if I can do it.

[3:43:39] There's a specific way to do a motion, but if I ask a question, please chair.

[3:43:45] If I may, sorry.

[3:43:47] So Susan has been in contact with the property owners.

[3:43:49] They are, I'm sorry, the alleged property owners, the family.

[3:43:53] And they are aware that they do need to remove this junk.

[3:43:56] and they're willing to get this removed.

[3:44:01] That's so I don't know if we want to give them 30 days

[3:44:05] to abate it themselves and then we go in and abate

[3:44:08] because they were just-

[3:44:09] I know that we can move either the trespass

[3:44:12] into someone else's land.

[3:44:13] I don't know if you can get it out of there.

[3:44:15] Give me all the ways of trespass with this land.

[3:44:17] Is our DNA not there?

[3:44:21] I'm here.

[3:44:22] Now, what do you think, D.A.?

[3:44:26] I'm not sure I've heard a specific question,

[3:44:30] But what I'm hearing now is I think there's serious concerns about whether or not

[3:44:34] it's actually constitutes a current of ownership.

[3:44:40] Well, ownership, but it's a moral question of it.

[3:44:42] Is it really truly a nuisance in his current condition?

[3:44:48] If you declared a nuisance, then the process is, you have to serve notice for them to

[3:44:55] clean it up and if they don't clean it up within 30 days, then the

[3:45:00] County has the ability to then abate the nuisance and then wherever the costs incurred become a lien on the property.

[3:45:10] I ask a question just because the code enforcement agents are going to have to deal with is that I'm just looking for how they handle it.

[3:45:18] Since the owner does not exist, then how do they handle it if the people who have their property on someone else's land? How do you want them to handle that?

[3:45:28] Well, the practical issue here is that the county would have a lean on the property, but if it's not really enforceable, because the estate has no money.

[3:45:38] I don't think the county should expect that there are going to be recouping any of the costs that this being incurred.

[3:45:44] I mean, we have to be honest about that.

[3:45:46] The real question is what do we, so the owner doesn't exist. There's no owner.

[3:45:51] Someone says, well, that's my pile of trash out there, and I like to move it.

[3:45:53] Can we can code legally say yeah, go right. I had that land that you don't own and go ahead and collect that

[3:45:59] We should not be given permission to do anything with that land. I know there's a clean-up

[3:46:02] The nuisance and who can do the cleaning of the nuisance even on the done property if the county declares it's a nuisance

[3:46:09] Then notice has to go out

[3:46:11] If after three days they don't debate the nuisance then by law the county has the authority to go in and clean up the property and obey the nuisance

[3:46:23] Do you want the code people to call their contacts and say get your stuff out here?

[3:46:26] even though they're not the owners, or does that, I don't want to put you on.

[3:46:29] It's not a question what I want.

[3:46:31] It's the only choice you have if you need to declare a notice,

[3:46:33] or you don't need to declare a notice.

[3:46:35] I understand.

[3:46:35] I can't.

[3:46:38] And by the way, Commissioner Bane, seeing how you claim donor ship earlier,

[3:46:42] or you'll have to accuse yourself.

[3:46:43] And the owner.

[3:46:45] So we're all owners of this property, as much as anyone else.

[3:46:49] I would, I, for what it's worth.

[3:46:52] I'm sorry.

[3:46:53] I'll stand out.

[3:46:54] I'm still at, I've got a text into Rayland Powers, and I'm looking at the tax records on

[3:47:00] this property, and the quarterly payments are only $94, but the first installment is $585.

[3:47:08] That tells me that these are back taxes haven't been paid, and Rayland's on vacation.

[3:47:13] So I don't know what the status of the taxes are.

[3:47:15] Can you tell me?

[3:47:16] All right.

[3:47:17] It looks unpaid to the point where, you know, this whole thing is a hot man.

[3:47:22] That's not even relevant. I mean, too.

[3:47:24] Is it relevant because we get it up and put the

[3:47:26] news in.

[3:47:27] It isn't.

[3:47:27] That's true.

[3:47:28] That's true.

[3:47:29] That's the question.

[3:47:30] But as far as what the DA said about us being able to collect our money,

[3:47:34] if we end up taking the property from back taxes, we'll be collecting our money.

[3:47:37] It's my point.

[3:47:38] And thank you.

[3:47:38] I think if we give them 30 days, they will get it.

[3:47:42] They've been in contact with us.

[3:47:43] We finally talked to the granddaughter.

[3:47:46] He's been very cooperative.

[3:47:48] The grand son is the one that's here and down.

[3:47:51] He's the one bringing this stuff in, but he did help remove what's been removed from the property.

[3:47:57] So he brought it in and helped take it back home.

[3:47:59] He created this and then it's in the process of cleaning it up.

[3:48:04] How do you keep him here?

[3:48:05] Chair, Chair.

[3:48:06] Chair, Chair.

[3:48:07] Yes, please, please.

[3:48:07] I say so.

[3:48:08] There we think I'm hearing.

[3:48:09] My suggestion is that we continue this for 30 days to see if we can get this thing cleaned up

[3:48:15] and then we can come back after 30 days and make a final decision.

[3:48:20] I like that. I have. I have to make a motion if it doesn't go that's fine. I can't do that to these people. We have been continuing this for years really if you go back to the time when it was burned down.

[3:48:31] These people on the street have been dealing with these same people who said they were the same people from what the testimony is I'm getting.

[3:48:38] Who are saying that they are going to clean it up now. We're saying two years ago when it burned down that they were going to clean it up and get out.

[3:48:44] They got out for a couple months and then came right back.

[3:48:47] I can't do that if I lose, I lose, but I have to make the motion.

[3:48:50] So I had to make the motion.

[3:48:51] Yeah, please.

[3:48:51] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[3:48:52] Thank you.

[3:48:52] Thank you, sir.

[3:48:53] I appreciate that.

[3:48:54] I would define the property.

[3:48:56] You located 2, 4, 6, 1 South Mallory, Street Promot, Nevada, Constitutes in Newtons, in the

[3:48:59] condition.

[3:49:00] In that, the condition of the properties, the safety hazard and dangers to public health and

[3:49:03] safety due to the accumulation of the non-operable vehicles to parties, trash junk, and

[3:49:07] debris across the property.

[3:49:12] If the nuisance is found, I move that if the conditions of the nuisance are not debated

[3:49:20] before October 1, 2026 County has ordered to debate the conditions percentage in the

[3:49:27] County Code 17.0486.0M.

[3:49:31] Can I ask for an amendment on that?

[3:49:35] Could we identify a funding source if that's the case?

[3:49:38] How are we even paid to do that?

[3:49:39] How do we pay for the budget?

[3:49:42] What is the typical funding source?

[3:49:44] We don't really have that's part of the problem.

[3:49:48] With these abadements, we don't have any kind of money that we collect in the co-compliance

[3:49:54] that pays for this kind of stuff.

[3:49:57] It's going to come out of somewhere else.

[3:50:00] That's our comptroller. We have a motion on the floor in two seconds, by the way. Go ahead.

[3:50:07] We can use LATCF.

[3:50:09] Done.

[3:50:12] Is it acceptable for our own?

[3:50:15] Even there's a good chance it's going to get cleaned up and it's all in my hope it does.

[3:50:19] So can I, can I, can I amend it without restating?

[3:50:22] Mr. DA.

[3:50:25] Let's restate it.

[3:50:26] Let's restate it.

[3:50:32] Let's restate it.

[3:50:34] He's just a nuisance in that the condition of the properties of safety hazard and dangerous to public health and safety due to the accumulation of an unprofile vehicles RV's trash junk and debris across the property in the event.

[3:50:48] The nuisance is found. I move that if the conditions of the nuisance are not abated on or before October 1, 2026, the county's ordered to evade the conditions.

[3:50:58] percent in iconic code 17, 404, 860MN funding source for this being the LATC F funds.

[3:51:07] So, board with draws is first, second motion and I second this motion.

[3:51:16] All right, we have a motion on the floor and a second. My question for you real quick before

[3:51:21] we vote is, how do we keep the scumbag dude from jumping roll?

[3:51:26] Do I put, I'm sorry, can I put air three state there with a fence on

[3:51:30] Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. Do you want me to rest? I will. I can do real quick.

[3:51:34] I'm sorry.

[3:51:34] Please submit your motion.

[3:51:35] I'm ending such as to the abated conditions is inclusive of the government putting a suitable fence around the entire property, noting that there is partial fence at the property at this time.

[3:51:55] Jiborso is second. All right, we've got an amended everything and a second everything amended we're ready to go let's vote

[3:52:06] Jiborso I

[3:52:07] Asked a tie that carries five zero. Thank you Rob and Celeste

[3:52:11] Just to be clear

[3:52:13] and correct me if I'm wrong DA if it goes to the point of the county oven to debate it and we're gonna use

[3:52:21] last CF, we're going to have to come back and get that amount approved to amend our spending

[3:52:27] plan for the last CF. Correct?

[3:52:32] Yeah, that was not part of the motion. I wasn't sure if that

[3:52:34] was or not. Yeah, I wasn't. I'm just getting clarification. And we could we could we could do that

[3:52:40] later. That's correct. Okay. Can't imagine. All right. Good work. Let's do 12 please.

[3:52:53] Item 12 for possible action discussion and deliberation regarding clarification on the scope

[3:52:59] in intent of the current county hiring freeze as it relates to personnel within the public safety

[3:53:05] offices departments specifically the sheriff's office is requesting it to board determine

[3:53:11] whether the hiring freeze is intended to apply to positions within the sheriff's office

[3:53:16] from valetfire and emergency medical services or whether they are exempt from the hiring freeze.

[3:53:24] Thank you for that.

[3:53:27] I'm sure. Sheriff Joe McGill.

[3:53:29] Um, so the reason we brought this up is because there keeps going back and forth as to do we have a freeze,

[3:53:36] do we not have a freeze, do we have a freeze, do we not have a freeze, do we not have a freeze?

[3:53:39] And it seems like every other week it goes a different way.

[3:53:45] Um, the last we, uh, discussed something relative to this was replacing a terminated employee.

[3:53:54] I understand that that is complicated in another way, however,

[3:54:02] should this issue come up again.

[3:54:05] We need to know whether we can rehire to fill our positions.

[3:54:08] If we don't, we are going to be reducing our staff in effect by not allowing us to replace staff that may or may not leave for whatever reason.

[3:54:22] So that's where I am.

[3:54:26] Okay, can I offer some input on this please?

[3:54:29] Okay, when the budget was adopted, all vacant positions,

[3:54:35] if they become vacant or vacant at that time,

[3:54:38] in the general fund were frozen.

[3:54:42] That does not mean a department cannot come back to the board

[3:54:45] and request that position to be filled.

[3:54:48] It is just an extra step, but a lot of times when people do get terminated, resigned, whatever

[3:54:56] the case may be, there's a curls that have to be paid up.

[3:55:00] Now with that position, like vacation time, sick time, and what we need to be cognizant of is if, with that added

[3:55:10] cost of the accrual with that position leaving, sometimes if we leave it vacant for 90 days, let's

[3:55:16] say, we can recoup that to where we're now back to what was actually budgeted for that position

[3:55:23] for that year. So that's kind of what that extra step is in there for. As far as the fire department

[3:55:28] goes this does not affect the fire department at this time because they are not part of the

[3:55:34] night count in general fund.

[3:55:38] Okay.

[3:55:38] You're free.

[3:55:40] You're free.

[3:55:41] He's like, well, uh, okay, so let's still, does that make sense?

[3:55:49] What I'm hearing is that when the position becomes vacant, you put in the vacancy form so

[3:55:56] that we can look at as a board and make sure that we have the accrual, there's been an accrual

[3:56:05] so that we keep our keep within our budget.

[3:56:07] My understanding of the accrual is that that is accounted for in a fund of

[3:56:19] accrual fund.

[3:56:21] That's a good news.

[3:56:22] If that's not correct in a perfect world, yes, that's the way it should work, but that

[3:56:27] is not been done. This is not going to happen until now. That is something we are starting

[3:56:34] to accrue for, but at this point we don't have much build up in there to keep up with the

[3:56:39] pace. So, eventually, yes, you're right. Hopefully, we won't have to take that in a consideration

[3:56:46] anymore. But at this point, we don't have those accruals and we had some pretty big retirements

[3:56:52] that we just went through, so it's depleted a little bit we had.

[3:56:59] Okay, how about we, well

[3:57:04] we have to do public to them.

[3:57:06] So, Commissioner Giboror or BANG, do you have anything to for we go to public comment?

[3:57:11] Public comment please?

[3:57:13] Okay, we're going to hang tight Joe, we're going to open up public comment.

[3:57:17] Come on down Mr. Pippman.

[3:57:22] Steven Pippman, P-I-T-M-A-N, as you're well aware, the primary function of a government is the safety of its citizens.

[3:57:32] Thank you.

[3:57:33] Thank you.

[3:57:34] Come on down upon, please.

[3:57:39] Angelina Jackson, J. A.C. K.K. and so on.

[3:57:44] Of course, first and foremost, our first responders should be paid for their time and their sacrifices.

[3:57:53] that make more than anybody in this county, and there's a difference in the salaries.

[3:58:00] There's some of them actually exceed, which, well, one would expect to be paid over 100,000.

[3:58:08] You can, Mr. Baskovic, you can sit there and shake your head.

[3:58:11] Oh, it's green with you. Okay. And thank you for that. And so, there's positions that

[3:58:17] But our inexplainable, okay, why we have 30 administrators or secretaries is beyond me.

[3:58:27] There's all these people getting paid that nothing to show for it, and yet the share

[3:58:33] is the permanent and fire department are the ones that are losing here.

[3:58:38] And I'm all for it, however, there has to be accountability for these positions.

[3:58:45] It blows my mind that ton of paw and the other child barely have any, any first responders

[3:58:50] whatsoever.

[3:58:53] So somebody's got to take some cutbacks in other departments, in order to pay them.

[3:58:59] And there's no other way, because it's obvious there's no more money in the town.

[3:59:06] We have no more money.

[3:59:07] So where do you guys are planning to get this money from, it's beyond me?

[3:59:11] You guys, you know, look at all the employees that you guys have.

[3:59:14] I mean, they were paying $64 million for a year and take some cutbacks because some people

[3:59:20] believe me, when you have an administrative secretary that's making $160,000 a year, come

[3:59:27] on.

[3:59:29] That's that's ridiculous.

[3:59:31] Somebody needs to look back at payroll and you know, make some choices here in order for

[3:59:35] that for these departments because us as taxpayers, we have no more to give.

[3:59:40] everything that they get we've given we've shown that I have nothing for

[3:59:43] thank you say I'm anybody coming to turn up by please oh okay let's go to

[3:59:49] tone-up off. I timbo Henan BOHA in in Owen public safety is very

[3:59:56] important budget is very important welcome find it

[4:00:00] The key here is balance.

[4:00:06] The key also is, okay, what is the extra cost beyond this? You fund it? Great. Have you counted

[4:00:13] for day two? Have you counted for the retirement costs? They're associated with that, the employee benefits.

[4:00:21] Making sure that's addressed in the budget. Making sure that's addressed when the funding, those are all key elements.

[4:00:28] I'm going to refer to the board to say, hey, safety, finance, it's a tough combination.

[4:00:39] Watch your budget, and watch our people.

[4:00:41] Thank you.

[4:00:42] Thank you.

[4:00:43] Come on down, Beth.

[4:00:51] Beth bore Savage.

[4:00:53] That was weird.

[4:00:54] B.O.R.Y.S.E.W. I.C.H.

[4:00:57] When we first started talking about freezing positions,

[4:01:02] I seem to recall that you guys were all in favor of always being prepared to keep the police department, or sheriff's department, sorry, funded and with employees.

[4:01:20] So there should be no question. I don't know where you're going to get the money from, LATCF.

[4:01:27] I don't know where you're going to get it, go into every department and tell them there's a 5% cut on everybody's salary, that'll pay for the share of that we need.

[4:01:39] Instead of the people having to bite the bullet and potentially have more taxes, I think that all the staff should go ahead and suffer as well with us.

[4:01:51] You know, 5%, I don't know how much that would hurt anybody, but that would pay for officers

[4:01:58] that we need.

[4:02:00] Thank you.

[4:02:01] Thank you.

[4:02:01] Sam, now we'll check the phone, please.

[4:02:04] That's chair.

[4:02:05] The caller is unmuted.

[4:02:06] Please speak in the spelling of your name for the record.

[4:02:11] Hello, Commissioner.

[4:02:12] It's Bruce Johnson, J.O.A. Janet, S.O.N. and to all of our fine and lovely Perupians out there.

[4:02:20] It might be time for the Braupyans actually to come together as a

[4:02:26] township and consider doing a little reforming within our county.

[4:02:35] We need to start looking at all these retirement plans,

[4:02:41] all the union contributions.

[4:02:45] Didn't we just have a bunch of money that just got approved on the last meeting

[4:02:48] that went to Union organizers or something for the firefighters and, you know, there's a lot of places that a lot of money goes out to other people that actually could be paying these positions.

[4:03:03] If this community was operating correctly as in a Republican informed.

[4:03:09] So, I just want people out there to consider that and there are ways to make that happen

[4:03:16] globally and we will get into the discussion about that and I land it there.

[4:03:22] Thank you.

[4:03:23] Thank you.

[4:03:23] Come on down.

[4:03:24] Debra.

[4:03:29] Deborah Thomas, THOMAS,

[4:03:35] it really concerns me when I see on an app on my phone and I see that

[4:03:43] all my gosh, there's all kinds of people in that are in trouble or have gotten in

[4:03:51] wrecks, have gotten stopped. It seems like we don't have enough police officers to do that.

[4:03:57] I don't know, I might be wrong. Am I wrong? I didn't think so. So I think we need to do

[4:04:05] everything we can, even if we have to cut back someplace else, because we really need to

[4:04:12] protected. We need to have protection from people that are inherently bad and also we need to be protected.

[4:04:27] Have our children protected from people that sell drugs. Thank you. Thank you, Sam. Do you have any better for me?

[4:04:37] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak in the following name for the record.

[4:04:43] Hello, Commissioner's Michael David Gart, the NTAR, the IAA, my volume okay for you this time.

[4:04:51] That's good Michael.

[4:04:54] Thank you thank you thank you thank you appreciate it.

[4:04:57] Anyhow, bye.

[4:05:00] You know, we really got to come up out of the ether when it comes to the safety tool. This is the same man that came before you and described the flock used in his criminal activity by abusing and neglecting the system that the safety tool.

[4:05:18] You know, I don't know how far you can go with the latch, the metropolitan operations of this, but maybe we get some more that hand or internal fraud in the civil rights violations.

[4:05:28] And I'm trying to figure out what we can't use the last 24, you know, U.S.C. 18666 against all my state and federal partners that might have an ear on them to the prime example of it.

[4:05:42] It's a safety tool.

[4:05:44] We were formed to protect liberty, light, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, property rights, inherent rights.

[4:05:52] You talk about drugs, but the number was economic market is against these children, look at

[4:05:59] our courts.

[4:06:00] Six years, you never tell us about the traffic of children in these courts, by these badges,

[4:06:07] where are you at?

[4:06:07] You've got a latch.

[4:06:09] Do you want to latch on to something,

[4:06:13] but you're still there?

[4:06:15] I'm what time do I have?

[4:06:17] Can you engage?

[4:06:18] I can't see the cloth from here.

[4:06:20] I've got a 30 second leg.

[4:06:23] I count a belly responsibility,

[4:06:28] transparent, fraud,

[4:06:32] extortion and official oppression,

[4:06:34] that's all you all are.

[4:06:39] So who's going to help that?

[4:06:40] Can we reallocate the Blackfield Special Prosecution for that?

[4:06:44] I'm going to hold that.

[4:06:45] I'm going to hold that.

[4:06:46] I'm going to hold that.

[4:06:47] I'm going to

[4:06:51] hold that.

[4:06:51] I came from

[4:06:56] California originally.

[4:06:59] You could be with me once.

[4:07:01] I wouldn't go back if they paid me to go back.

[4:07:04] And then I went to Colorado, beautiful place, beautiful place where I lived, lovely home,

[4:07:10] lovely neighborhood, and then I came here.

[4:07:16] And I love it here. I've said before, I don't love

[4:07:19] our government because I think it's very unfunctional.

[4:07:25] But I'm thinking about, we've got people

[4:07:27] maybe going to be moving here, who knows, they keep looking at what's going on here, I sure

[4:07:32] and come again. But we're going to have all these houses being built and supposedly all the

[4:07:41] schools are going to get filled and we'll have enough room for all of them. We're going to have

[4:07:44] all these people here. We need the third apartment and we need the sheriff's department. We can't

[4:07:50] survive on what we have now. He's already running ragged from one end of the county to the other

[4:07:56] and I'm sure that Mr. Lewis is also.

[4:08:00] So how do we solve that?

[4:08:02] And whatever you think you're going to do,

[4:08:04] where's the money come from?

[4:08:06] I know, we're going to get another grant.

[4:08:09] So sick of hearing that word, we're not going to get another grant.

[4:08:13] And even if you did, it's still not going to pay for anything.

[4:08:16] So why don't we just try to figure out,

[4:08:18] maybe we only need three commissioners instead of five?

[4:08:21] I don't know if that's legal, but it's a good idea.

[4:08:25] we could cut some expenses there.

[4:08:28] We think. Yeah.

[4:08:30] So, and there's probably a lot of other departments in this government.

[4:08:34] Since we know we have probably too many,

[4:08:38] and maybe a lot of them that are overpaid.

[4:08:40] And don't get me wrong.

[4:08:41] People need to income today because of our economy.

[4:08:43] And I'm not knocking that.

[4:08:45] But we have to make cuts.

[4:08:47] Zina knows that.

[4:08:49] You know, we have people in this town that understand that.

[4:08:52] But for some reason, it doesn't move.

[4:08:54] Thank you. Thank you. Okay, Sam, do you have anybody on the phone please? No chair. Come on up,

[4:09:06] Dwight.

[4:09:06] I'll stop Dwight, Lily, L-I-L-L-Y. Well, I think we've just went through all the budgets.

[4:09:13] The county's broke. We need more police officers, so it seems to me where we find the money for the police officers is we lay off people and other departments.

[4:09:22] and then you have the money to hire a police officer.

[4:09:26] This is a commissioner's choice here.

[4:09:28] You guys spent the money on salaries.

[4:09:31] I looked at transparent Nevada.

[4:09:34] 25 people have taken $2,300,000 a year.

[4:09:38] We lay some people off enough to what do we need?

[4:09:41] 6, 10.

[4:09:42] I don't know if you'll set up any law scrutiny.

[4:09:44] Then you divide that by how many you need laid off.

[4:09:47] And then you have your police officer.

[4:09:49] So it comes down to commission.

[4:09:50] is public safety more important, is a more important

[4:09:55] to have a police officer or a firefighter

[4:09:57] out doing actually saving lives.

[4:10:00] Check the people, or is it more important having another person being paid on the payroll? If it's police officer, then you lay somebody else off and pay the people and then the problem solved.

[4:10:11] But that's the decision you guys have to make. But to let us out of budget again, let's find money out of this account.

[4:10:18] You'll be right back where you were this year, next June, wondering why we are 15 million dollars in the whole.

[4:10:27] John brought it up before you guys people say you want us to spend men money. I'm telling you not to spend money

[4:10:33] I'm telling you read a portion of the money to take care of public safety

[4:10:38] So

[4:10:39] this department at eight people lay to a loft that you can hire an officer. This is not copy. It's not rocket science

[4:10:46] You're just are you willing to do it. I don't know. We'll see

[4:10:53] Thank you to what it's always very

[4:10:56] easy

[4:10:57] Come on down sir

[4:11:04] Darrell Wade, WAD, being a former EMS member, having worked with forces of many walks, police, etc.

[4:11:15] I am in this for Joe. I am in this for the Department. We need more officers.

[4:11:20] When you're laying at bed at night and there's a house burning next to you, you're going to wonder if you have enough officers or police officers to handle that situation.

[4:11:28] Now, I know there's a lot of money issues, but we can be creative.

[4:11:34] We need to put our heads together, stop laying blame on everybody else, get down, sit down,

[4:11:41] and figure it out.

[4:11:43] That's the bottom line.

[4:11:44] We need more EMS.

[4:11:47] We've got an aging fleet, we need to get the fleets up, we need to get our proper equipment

[4:11:52] going for today's standards, it's just a matter of creative financing.

[4:11:57] let's get it together and do it. Thank you, Sam anybody on the phone, please.

[4:12:03] Come on up Anthony.

[4:12:08] Anthony Greco, GRECO. If I was in charge, I would sit down with

[4:12:13] everybody we have contracts with and renegotiate contracts because they can't,

[4:12:20] the unions cannot force us to bankrupt ourselves. So they're going to have to work with us

[4:12:26] to cut back and make new contracts and that way for them to expire because we could just tell

[4:12:32] we you know your services is no longer needed.

[4:12:38] Thank you for that. Come on down, Tim.

[4:12:43] Good afternoon, Tammy. Good afternoon, PIT and I N. So I know Ms. Teshken confirmed that there is

[4:12:50] a fund that was made years ago to put money aside every year to a crew for when people

[4:12:59] leave for separation, vacation, petio, etc. It has not been funded for the last, I don't

[4:13:06] have any years because nobody's putting money in it and I'm probably wouldn't doubt if

[4:13:10] some's coming out of it and it's gone to nothing but there was a fund and the name of it

[4:13:16] escape me but I have it and so yes so if the funds still exists y'all have to start realizing

[4:13:24] that you have to put that money in every year or you're going to bankrupt us every year there's

[4:13:30] no going getting away from it and arm when we tell our departments you have X number of dollars

[4:13:37] to spend and said saying oh this is my wish list I want this much money got into it the other way

[4:13:43] around. This is our fixed costs. This is how much money is coming in from property tax.

[4:13:50] This is how much we know what's going to come in from sales tax. Say, okay, I heard

[4:13:55] our fixed costs. This is how much this department gets. This is department gets this department

[4:14:00] gets and one of the fixed costs has to be money going in that account. You can't avoid

[4:14:05] it or you may as well just close up shop.

[4:14:09] Thanks Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please? No chair.

[4:14:11] All right, we're gonna close public comment.

[4:14:15] Go ahead, Joe.

[4:14:18] I did not. I know that we're broke.

[4:14:22] I know this county is poor. I know that this county is not that this this under funding has been

[4:14:31] building and building and building for many, many years. But our staffing has not been building

[4:14:40] the population has been. I know I stand up here and say this to you all the time, but we're

[4:14:46] at the same staffing level that we were at 10 to 20 years ago. And we cannot continue to operate

[4:14:55] at that level. Right now, I realize we don't have any...

[4:15:00] Open positions. Okay, because they were all taken away.

[4:15:05] That's another issue that needs to be addressed before two terrible long, but can't be addressed today. I just need to know that if I have a person resign or if I terminate a person that I can replace that person. That's all. That's all I'm asking right now. It's a pretty small ask.

[4:15:27] I just, I mean, I got an application sent to me from HR this morning on my email for a lateral

[4:15:34] transfer from Metro Police.

[4:15:38] I guess I want to come out here and work.

[4:15:41] He's certified.

[4:15:42] It would only take a few weeks to train him in and away we do things and we could get him

[4:15:48] up and run it.

[4:15:49] We just need to know that we can hire him or not.

[4:15:55] That's all I'm asking right now.

[4:15:56] And it's my understanding that if there's a position that Joe or Scott or whoever needs to fill,

[4:16:02] they bring an item forward, and this boardboats on that position, is that correct?

[4:16:06] With a justification.

[4:16:08] Just a occasion.

[4:16:09] And I'm going to correct one statement that was just made that we're at the same staffing level as 20 years ago.

[4:16:15] In 2022, I believe we had a nice contract, which added 19 positions.

[4:16:22] Those positions have not went away.

[4:16:24] But I did.

[4:16:24] That's far less than 20 years ago, right?

[4:16:28] I completely get it.

[4:16:29] And the bottom line is each of our property taxes has a cap,

[4:16:33] if it's an owner occupied, I believe, 3%, right?

[4:16:36] So each year, each year, our property tax

[4:16:40] goes up three more percent, which goes into the coffers,

[4:16:44] tell me how much inflation has been.

[4:16:47] This is not the whole excuse, but we all damn well know

[4:16:52] when we go fill up our freaking cars,

[4:16:55] it does not cost today, what it did five years ago.

[4:16:59] And bread, eggs, anything else.

[4:17:02] So that's also a problem.

[4:17:04] And nobody wants to raise taxes.

[4:17:07] And everybody wants to cut expenditures

[4:17:10] which we're gonna get to your items here very soon

[4:17:13] and you're going to let people know

[4:17:15] what leaps and bounds have been made

[4:17:18] just in the last year to half.

[4:17:20] So it is a big problem to not raise taxes,

[4:17:24] understanding that inflation is outpacing our property tax payments.

[4:17:31] I don't like paying taxes.

[4:17:32] I sure is heck, I'm not going to offer to pay more.

[4:17:36] Where it is.

[4:17:39] I understand your problem though, I do.

[4:17:40] I believe me, I'm not against it.

[4:17:43] But the deficit that we had when Zena came on,

[4:17:48] year you know whenever it was we were so freaking far upside down it was pathetic and

[4:17:54] they have made amazing strides to get us back your department was terribly upside down

[4:18:00] the jail which we'll get but I mean we'll get it all taken care of it's just money doesn't fall

[4:18:08] for the sky so we got a cut where we can and uh spend wisely.

[4:18:15] Mr. Chairman, may I have very quickly.

[4:18:17] Go ahead.

[4:18:17] I'm going to make it quick.

[4:18:18] Thank you.

[4:18:19] I guess I'm just, if we have no open positions.

[4:18:21] I guess I just don't, I understand it to another step.

[4:18:25] But if, if that's what everyone wants is to go for the board and ask for the justification,

[4:18:28] what is the problem with that I guess?

[4:18:30] And I'm not, I'm not trying to setting up for failure and say how I feel,

[4:18:33] but what, what is the sticking point is to why can't we just say,

[4:18:37] here we have an open position and then just go before that.

[4:18:40] We have these meetings.

[4:18:41] I feel like they're every day and honestly they're like every two weeks and keep adding them.

[4:18:46] So I'm not trying to push back, but I just, I don't understand the difference

[4:18:52] functionally from a management standpoint of asking for the justification for them so that we

[4:18:57] get the justification for them so there's no other department heads or mad that they don't have to

[4:19:01] one department doesn't and the other does. In the event that we just approve of everything that's given

[4:19:06] to us, as far as any first responder positions, I guess I just don't understand what the difference is.

[4:19:10] is there a difference between not having a freeze

[4:19:13] and having to come before us?

[4:19:15] Does anyone know?

[4:19:16] The problem, Commissioner, is last time we were here,

[4:19:20] there didn't seem to be a consensus between

[4:19:24] all as to whether we were frozen.

[4:19:26] Sure, Sheriff.

[4:19:27] You know why that position cannot be filled.

[4:19:30] That position, yes, I understand.

[4:19:32] But we had a dispatcher position that was denied us

[4:19:39] Because there was no consensus on the board as to whether we were under a freezer.

[4:19:45] Did you come again?

[4:19:47] Oh, we said no.

[4:19:48] You come back with a justification form just like anybody else does.

[4:19:53] When you're presented to the commissioners, they need to know what they're saying yes to.

[4:19:57] They need to know that there's money to cover it.

[4:20:00] That's all that's being required. You need to present what that item wouldn't even be considered at the last time we were here, because nobody knew whether we were under a freeze or not.

[4:20:18] like sister pain on so there's a form that we have to share we have to fill out

[4:20:26] office of share of whatever it is I want to dispatcher and then it gets presented I mean

[4:20:31] I'll sponsor your stuff if you want I mean is that help I'm just trying to I just don't

[4:20:36] understand why I didn't I didn't vote on a dispatcher position did you did anyone I don't

[4:20:40] want to remember that no one up here remembers a dispatcher position did you did you put it on the

[4:20:48] up here, but share if you're not wrong, that freeze was confusing, but it wasn't necessarily

[4:20:55] as confusing as it may have sounded because it wasn't set to be forever freeze.

[4:21:00] Zina had a task at hand to try to get our stuff in order, that won't spud it, uh-huh,

[4:21:08] adopt, and so the freeze was introduced for that period of time, and after July, whatever,

[4:21:17] The new fiscal year, right?

[4:21:19] Any items or any positions that you need, or

[4:21:22] Scott needs, or whoever needs,

[4:21:24] brain-forward.

[4:21:26] If we consider that.

[4:21:27] If we consider that.

[4:21:28] If we consider that.

[4:21:28] Go ahead.

[4:21:29] Stepping on your toes.

[4:21:30] I guess my question is, I would like to answer.

[4:21:32] What is the difference between,

[4:21:34] I don't want to freeze.

[4:21:36] But if, if all the county manager wants us to

[4:21:38] all the foreign fill out, is that correct?

[4:21:41] County manager?

[4:21:42] Yes.

[4:21:42] And I want the cost,

[4:21:44] the cost of the decision you're going to be made, I want you guys to be aware of that so you can make an educated decision.

[4:21:54] Because those forms go through, I'm sorry, the forms go through finance, they go through HR, HR costs out what that position is going to be.

[4:22:05] if it's a lateral, sometimes we hire them in at a step three instead of a step one.

[4:22:13] They're hired in at a little higher cost.

[4:22:16] They might be replacing a step one position that vacated.

[4:22:21] So there's research and information that goes into those forms that goes into the back up.

[4:22:27] So you guys see exactly what it's going to cost.

[4:22:31] And if we budget it for it, or if we're having to add to the budget, or et cetera,

[4:22:38] you just concerned that something's just going to be done, and no one's going to know about it,

[4:22:42] and all of a sudden, here's a new guy.

[4:22:43] Is that the concern?

[4:22:44] That's not what it is because I thought that.

[4:22:45] I mean, it's actually a way to the ban.

[4:22:47] I mean, my point is if we got rid of this whatever ban going on,

[4:22:50] the concern from county management is just all of a sudden,

[4:22:53] here's deputy Jones, he just shows up, and nobody knows about it,

[4:22:56] but he's already being put through.

[4:22:57] Is that the concern?

[4:22:58] Is things just getting put through?

[4:22:59] No, the concern is the cost and Zena's task of getting us back on track.

[4:23:06] Which we're going to hear, there's no, there's no difference effectively between just going through this process and putting these forms of all the stuff in it.

[4:23:16] And if, let me reference this, if we made the decision, we're just going to prove everything for the share of is there any difference between effectively between just going through this process and then just

[4:23:28] getting rid of the freeze for the sheriff. I guess I'm just struggling. I still

[4:23:32] am struggling to see the difference. Well, I don't think the freeze currently is

[4:23:38] the same freeze that we had last fiscal year because it was a hard and

[4:23:42] fast, no way, right? There's sheriffs in the water.

[4:23:50] There's sheriffs in the

[4:23:52] Go ahead. Go ahead, Commissioner.

[4:23:55] Thank you.

[4:23:58] I see what Commissioner Bain is saying is that,

[4:24:02] is that, look, if we lift the freeze on the sheriff's office,

[4:24:09] we're going to approve it.

[4:24:11] We know what it's going to cost.

[4:24:13] If you want to form to come before us,

[4:24:15] you want the sheriff to formally come before us.

[4:24:19] We're going to approve it.

[4:24:20] It's a first responder.

[4:24:21] Okay? It's a necessary position. Then why are we continuously talking about a freeze?

[4:24:33] What nobody has brought up and I'll bring it up is we want this form, we want this justification form.

[4:24:40] We all know that we need the first responders out there to protect and serve all of the first responders.

[4:24:48] about over time. How much over time? Because of the freeze has been spent in the

[4:24:56] sheriff's office because it's necessary to have them out.

[4:25:00] On the street, assisting, protecting, serving, taking care of all of these pertinent issues that we're talking about, and we're so concerned about, rightfully so.

[4:25:14] It's over $350,000 to in the back up, but we don't want to address the overtime because

[4:25:24] there's a freeze.

[4:25:25] So if there's a freeze, I'll just issue overtime to my officers, and I'll get it done.

[4:25:31] So thank you, Sheriff, because you're making that command decision to get it done.

[4:25:37] But now you're coming before us to say, I want clarification because I don't want to have

[4:25:42] this command decision each and every week and month when I get a transfer request.

[4:25:49] The sheriff will tell you that Commissioner Bain and I, we were confused and we asked

[4:25:55] Elona, the director of HR to please clarify, was here in Chambers here in Donapac.

[4:26:02] We can't possibly be seriously thinking about a freeze on the sheriff's office or the fire department

[4:26:08] or EMS, and the response was, oh no, no freeze for them, but it wasn't in the backup.

[4:26:17] It wasn't clear, so there was once again confusion.

[4:26:24] We, we as, as, as, not to pick on your Susie, she said, we need to get our act together.

[4:26:32] We need to put all of the facts together when making these decisions

[4:26:39] over time, considerable amount

[4:26:42] money and a freeze on a few deputies, a dispatcher. This is what he's

[4:26:49] asked you. So, Sheriff, I'm going to wait to hear from the final decision

[4:26:54] from all of us, but what I'm hearing, the message is, is that, come before us,

[4:27:00] get those, get those justification forms ready. Get them ready. Backdate them.

[4:27:06] present them. They're going to be approved, okay? You want more deputies? You're going to get more deputies.

[4:27:15] Get those forms ready, because I'm ready to sign off on them.

[4:27:19] I appreciate that. I just want to call your attention and line one of my item. It says regarding

[4:27:28] clarification on a scope and intent of the current hiring phrase. That's why I'm here.

[4:27:33] It was confusing.

[4:27:35] I couldn't get the same answer from two different people.

[4:27:39] Can you guys look at what I know you're on a lag here?

[4:27:41] He's hearing means in the room somewhere.

[4:27:44] Can we look around?

[4:27:45] Yes, he's here.

[4:27:47] Can he stop that real quick?

[4:27:48] I think he can answer this.

[4:27:49] I really do.

[4:27:50] Mr. Means, can you step up really quickly?

[4:27:52] I am just curious about this one question because it'll bother me.

[4:27:56] I'll never know the answer.

[4:27:57] I feel like I'm speaking like a different.

[4:27:58] I've never spoken a different language, but this is the closest.

[4:28:00] does that come? Do you want to speak? Do you have to spell his name?

[4:28:04] Eric Means. What do you mean?

[4:28:06] Enter on a threat or a threat?

[4:28:08] So, can you explain because you were a captain for a long time? I think you still are legally.

[4:28:13] What is the difference? If you don't have anything open right now, it's being held up.

[4:28:18] I thought there was. What is the difference effectively between just making the sheriff's office just

[4:28:23] for a lot of this wacky farm that we all look, because I'm going to, I'm going to go for

[4:28:26] every single share of position that is being asked for.

[4:28:30] I mean, everyone knows this in town probably.

[4:28:32] What is the difference between that and let's say I'll win.

[4:28:35] But what is the difference you're just making that firm be filled out

[4:28:37] and unfreezing all the depth?

[4:28:40] Is there a difference?

[4:28:42] So yeah, we're talking two different things.

[4:28:44] The form gets filled out for every department.

[4:28:46] We, sorry, we have not had a form come through or position

[4:28:50] come through, since me taking over HR,

[4:28:52] but prior to me taking over HR, when I was at the sheriff's office,

[4:28:55] We would submit the form and go through the entire process and it never came before the B. O. C.

[4:29:01] And that's been since the hiring freeze, which is not really, I think we're talking to them for things

[4:29:07] and people are talking about adding more positions and just filling positions that have become vacated during this year.

[4:29:13] Basically, share this on this.

[4:29:14] It doesn't have to be for us. Where does it go? It just goes, we don't know where to went.

[4:29:19] It just gets approved.

[4:29:20] It used to be administrative decision by the county manager.

[4:29:25] Yes, so it goes through HR, writes their numbers and finance says we have enough money, it goes to the county manager, county manager reviews all of that, it gets approved, it can be failed.

[4:29:35] We have a county manager, do you have a problem with going back to that?

[4:29:39] You wanted to go before us.

[4:29:41] Is that correct?

[4:29:42] Well, do we need to know how to pay for it, too?

[4:29:46] We need the cost and the end part of the issue has been and that's part of what the next item is that we'll get to.

[4:29:53] is the justification forms of gotten very lacks, not just with share of the department.

[4:30:00] But all departments. So we're trying to get things back in line. So you guys know what you're making decisions on.

[4:30:07] And you guys are up to date and real time, what budget, Terry issues there are. It's not to prevent hiring or filling vacant positions in the sheriff's permit. All it is is trying to make sure we know what we're doing.

[4:30:23] If we have an employee that leads, that we have to pay out $200,000 in accruals, we need to try to realize that back somehow.

[4:30:35] And that's all it is, is to give us a time to calculate that out.

[4:30:42] Okay, can we try this method?

[4:30:45] Was the sheriff's office okay with us trying this method?

[4:30:48] And then, because right now there's nothing open, is that correct?

[4:30:50] Is there anything open that we want to fill with the sheriff's office?

[4:30:54] There is currently nothing open right now, that is correct.

[4:30:58] And to address something that County manager mentioned.

[4:31:01] Yeah, I missed a position justification for them recently.

[4:31:04] Yeah, I did.

[4:31:06] As soon as it was brought to my attention, I think it was sent through that same day.

[4:31:12] But I'm not trying to be you out, man.

[4:31:13] I really am not.

[4:31:14] I just want, because everyone seems really upset about this.

[4:31:17] As I'm going to give you, I just, if everyone really wants this form and really wants to have this discussion,

[4:31:21] I'm going to vote yes and all your guys and he's probably going to vote yes and all your guys

[4:31:25] So maybe just do it their way so that we don't have this fight it seems to be a non-stop

[4:31:29] I'm doing it their way because I know that's that's their way like I said I miss how come it's their way, it's but policy

[4:31:36] Right it's policy that's all right. That's fine. I

[4:31:40] Will say Brett I realize we have a meeting tomorrow on this one and

[4:31:46] Right now we I don't think we're quite seen I don't I on it

[4:31:49] But the decision will be made, but what if that one has to wait an a year and a half or two years for a arbitration?

[4:31:58] Do we continue to leave that position empty?

[4:32:01] We have to we have to because if an arbitration resulted in having to take that person back

[4:32:08] We have to have a position for him to go into I

[4:32:11] Plus we have to pay for all the time. They were not yet work

[4:32:15] So that money can't be said. Yeah, that's one less person that we have on the street

[4:32:19] I thought get an arbitration. I don't know. I mean, how do you solve this problem in business?

[4:32:25] You have to set the money aside?

[4:32:29] Yeah, that's the problem.

[4:32:31] Sure, if we can't allocate that money until this is settled to pay some of the else.

[4:32:39] We could if we had that fund.

[4:32:43] I know that.

[4:32:44] The old fun.

[4:32:44] I mean, that money tree and we'll fund it tomorrow.

[4:32:47] Right, you check.

[4:32:48] And we're trying it.

[4:32:50] We're trying.

[4:32:50] And that is just so you know, and the audience knows what was adopted in this year's budget,

[4:32:58] does start to put money into that fund like it should have been doing for years.

[4:33:04] You know, so we are definitely going to be in better shape, hopefully by the end of the year.

[4:33:10] And then, if we can not have to tap into it too far, you know, hopefully it'll just continue to grow

[4:33:16] to where it won't be a factor anymore, you know, when somebody retires or resigns.

[4:33:26] But should have actually been closing or marketing.

[4:33:28] I wasn't impressionally at open positions.

[4:33:30] I would like to know if there are open positions.

[4:33:32] So I'm going to share this office.

[4:33:33] I will do my best to make sure that I know and then go from there.

[4:33:36] So that's how I feel about this and I will, you know,

[4:33:42] All right.

[4:33:48] Yeah, let's can we finish this item and then take a break? I think we're clear.

[4:33:54] Or are we frozen or not frozen?

[4:33:57] You don't have any open position. If I have, if I have a position open tomorrow.

[4:34:02] That's something totally different.

[4:34:04] And turn an agenda item in and get it on the next available agenda.

[4:34:09] I'm not going to get stopped. Turn over the little form. Whatever it is.

[4:34:14] That's what I'm asking for is clarification.

[4:34:17] We get it. It was confusing.

[4:34:19] You're not wrong.

[4:34:20] You're not wrong.

[4:34:22] Thank you.

[4:34:23] Thank you.

[4:34:25] All right.

[4:34:25] So let's take 10.

[4:34:45] Oh.

[4:34:45] Real good.

[4:34:48] What?

[4:34:50] Do you.

[4:34:54] Please.

[4:34:54] Can we?

[4:35:03] Is that a flood camera?

[4:35:07] Yeah, just set it up while we're on break. Just kidding. Just kidding.

[4:35:25] All right, guys, let's get to number 20, please.

[4:35:33] Item 20 presentation by Paul Lemus regarding water and property management, that the Ashmit is wildlife refuge, five minute time limit, and I want to bring to your attention.

[4:35:43] Yeah, the video is over six minutes.

[4:35:46] I already talked to Paul.

[4:35:47] We're good.

[4:35:49] OK, wait five minutes.

[4:35:51] John, we'll start your timer whenever you're ready.

[4:35:53] Yes, first thing I wanted to point out,

[4:35:55] and I'm not going to be able to use this microphone app.

[4:35:59] I have to be on.

[4:36:01] You got to need a wireless one.

[4:36:03] Let me see if I can switch on this one.

[4:36:05] I'm going to swing this one a little bit.

[4:36:07] OK, guys, so this is the important thing.

[4:36:09] This is the proposed concept right now

[4:36:12] for the national conservation area.

[4:36:14] this is the mapping. And they're claiming that this could protect our land. But I want you to

[4:36:19] look at the distinct factor. You see this bottom line right here, it's not straight, it's

[4:36:25] wavy, it's curvy. That's a water line. That's also one of our main drainage lines in our

[4:36:30] hydrological mapping. If you look at this drawing, yes ma'am. The chair is being asked by

[4:36:43] I have emailed copies to all your emails, I believe, if not, I can get you one right

[4:36:48] of Wacer.

[4:36:50] Would you go with the presentation that you have?

[4:36:52] Can I give you the presentation and then give back up to the presentation you have on

[4:36:57] your laptop?

[4:36:58] Yes, yes, yes, I can.

[4:37:00] One last quick piece of the puzzle and then I'll cut right off.

[4:37:04] because this is the main water line into Prump and Johnny Nevada.

[4:37:09] So what they're trying to do is kind of encompass the land over even your guys in Prump

[4:37:13] and Emma goes this water line and land.

[4:37:16] Now, well, there's applications right now for just a proposal, the way it was written was

[4:37:21] for a proposal, but they started acting after the proposal.

[4:37:26] So we get into that.

[4:37:27] I got to go ahead.

[4:37:27] and take up. I thank you very much.

[4:37:30] Please excuse me.

[4:37:32] Thank you, Mr. Limis.

[4:37:34] I'm just gonna talk.

[4:37:35] There's really nothing to talk about.

[4:37:37] I know we have four.

[4:37:39] It's up.

[4:37:44] These are the water lines right here in Ashmeadows,

[4:37:47] where they're draining crystal reservoir now.

[4:37:49] They're pumping it over the top and into and out into the valley.

[4:37:52] It's going into outer course you right now.

[4:37:55] We just left a lot of the fish and

[4:37:57] and frogs internal dying on the ground.

[4:37:59] as they don't know so much about into their outlook, right now.

[4:38:08] And several conservancies that are all working together now, that the Conservancy Fund has hit for over 400 million.

[4:38:16] There's been a lot of these conservancies all trying to group up and kind of come after some of the area where a protected lands are.

[4:38:22] Right now, our area of our private properties, which we have a subdivision called Little Nevada Subdivision,

[4:38:28] there's over 243 residential lots in there.

[4:38:30] None of those owners were notified that they wanted to come in and put their in-combring map over our private properties.

[4:38:37] I believe there's also something like 800 mining claims throughout that area.

[4:38:41] None of those people have been notified yet.

[4:38:43] So we're here today trying to just make you aware of what's going on and we're asking that you

[4:38:52] Today, this is the Amargosa Conservancy that is applying right now, but the cease-indicist

[4:39:00] letter that I've kind of wanted the commissioners to consider signing has cease-indicists

[4:39:05] to all different conservancies and any new ones that step up with the same plan to try and

[4:39:11] take our private properties and land.

[4:39:13] So this would make them financially responsible, give us an instrument to record on our

[4:39:17] deeds to protect our properties.

[4:39:18] And so all we're trying to do is buy some time right now since we found out that this emergency is going on

[4:39:24] Whatever's in that

[4:39:26] Descientific doctors showed up on Saturday. There's definitely dust and contaminants in there since the water is out

[4:39:33] That's went airborne. So a lot of the breathing things that we've been experiencing over the last year is could be an associated with this

[4:39:40] Project that they're doing to kind of dismantle our ash meadows. They started with mud reservoir knocked that down

[4:39:47] rerouted Peterson and cut it off through the Fuentesis property and then this is our old reservoir here

[4:39:53] This what it used to look like how beautiful it was and then they're purposely draining it is the thing and this

[4:40:00] Audlife, and the fish. And then, as they dump it each time over and over, it just floods out into the desert, and

[4:40:05] you're left seeing the dead fish on the ground, which will be here in a little bit. So, we've documented

[4:40:11] all of this. We also have biologists. We have a full scientific truck that came out, they did air sniffer. They did

[4:40:18] A soil samples, they did a radiation testing with the Giger counter, but the main thing associated

[4:40:27] with this is the water's vested in the people under NRS 533, and it says in there that no

[4:40:34] NCA or government should have any ownership of that water, ever. That's the law. The thing that's

[4:40:41] important for staff today to consider is the violations that were made in the way this project

[4:40:46] been submitted so far. It was only a presentation permission to do a presentation and now we're

[4:40:52] looking at violation 241021, which is public scoping. The public scoping happened on June

[4:40:58] 11 and this was passed by the town board March 26. So they passed it to only do the presentation

[4:41:07] but then move forward to ask the Board of County Commissioners to sign to approve the concept and

[4:41:13] Proposal for it on May 5th, so then Jibor back that out on May 19th and said no, we're not going to move forward with this letter.

[4:41:22] So they wanted to come to you and ask for a letter to basically have an excuse to come after our properties and move forward without the presentation.

[4:41:30] I don't know why they're here to even talk against us because we haven't even given them permission yet to do the presentation.

[4:41:35] and the public's coping had six people against it and only three for it.

[4:41:40] So I think that the people have already spoken at that point and said that they do not want

[4:41:45] the national conservation area.

[4:41:47] We haven't notified any of those homeowners.

[4:41:49] And it's a very risky situation to put them all at risk with eminent domain or possible

[4:41:55] adverse possession.

[4:41:56] Our job is county officials is to protect adverse couldn't possession claims for our people.

[4:42:02] So 241-0 and 241-0-3-6 is what this board would be violating if we did not

[4:42:10] Consider just avoiding it because 241 actually says it's avoided already by I'm doing the scoping backwards. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you

[4:42:19] Okay

[4:42:23] Now back to where we were

[4:42:25] 13 please

[4:42:30] Hey

[4:42:31] Hey, Paul, can you email me that video please so I can watch the whole thing?

[4:42:37] Go ahead.

[4:42:39] Just in

[4:42:45] the last, okay.

[4:42:48] Thank you.

[4:42:49] 13, please.

[4:42:50] Item 13 for possible action, discussion in deliberation to adopt a men of the adopt or reject

[4:42:57] Nikani resolution number 2026-16 resolution adopting the position evaluation policy.

[4:43:06] Okay, thank you for that. Who's speaking on this one?

[4:43:10] Mr. Chair, this is Lorraine.

[4:43:12] Hi, Lorraine.

[4:43:14] Hello. This item is already partially in place.

[4:43:19] Over the years, the board has, they've approved the position justification form.

[4:43:27] We've gone back and forth and it all is heavily contingent on our budget on whether or not

[4:43:33] the approvals go through county manager just as director means mentioned earlier in an earlier

[4:43:39] item.

[4:43:40] Or they come back to the board as the county manager identified.

[4:43:47] So that way the board is aware of our financials when it comes to these positions.

[4:43:53] So this is just to add a couple more pieces to that justification.

[4:44:00] Okay,

[4:44:04] that's just the way we have anything for, what are the couple more pieces, please?

[4:44:09] In the policy itself, so on page 1 of the actual policy, but it's page 6 of your actual item, there's a section 1.3 called required documentation.

[4:44:27] And this is really focused on new positions that will come before the board,

[4:44:35] but there can be data that could be requested of our department heads when they're requesting reclassifications, for example.

[4:44:49] All right.

[4:44:49] Let's see if we have any public comment on this item.

[4:44:51] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[4:44:55] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[4:44:57] Please speak on the phone.

[4:45:00] Team for the record.

[4:45:04] Oh, commissioners, Michael David first, the IGARC I had my volume okay with you this time. Yes, sir. Thank you, thank you, thank you, I appreciate that that's a good service there.

[4:45:16] Cool. Anyhow, I just want to point out the elephant in the room, you know, the reduction side of your competition, you know, the hardest thing to do is to hit an administrative ego to breathe. Good luck with

[4:45:35] it.

[4:45:37] Sammy, you want to, are you ready?

[4:45:41] Well, you're good.

[4:45:43] Tammy Pittman, PIT, M-A-N, as a 30,

[4:45:47] 40, I don't know how many years now.

[4:45:50] HR person.

[4:45:53] Great.

[4:45:55] Edition.

[4:45:56] I think it should be used for every position that's current

[4:45:59] in place as well as new positions so that you all can make the best decisions.

[4:46:04] Thank you.

[4:46:05] Thank you, Sammy.

[4:46:06] Anybody on the phone, please?

[4:46:06] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[4:46:09] Please, speak in the following name for the record.

[4:46:14] I'm about in the B.O.HA in an early cost justification is always a requirement when we're talking about finance.

[4:46:26] It's important to value that we gain from that is that the carbon heads and leaders are doing cost benefits, cost justification.

[4:46:38] And while they're doing that, looking for efficiency, that often gets overlooked in many

[4:46:45] miniseries.

[4:46:46] But efficiency is how effective don't chop it so much where you can get the job done,

[4:46:54] but the addition what you do, why isn't what you do.

[4:46:58] And why is it?

[4:46:59] And why is it?

[4:47:00] And why is it?

[4:47:01] And get us from there, March.

[4:47:04] Come on down in front, please.

[4:47:10] Angelina Jackson, JEC, KSON, and if I'm not mistaken, that's the HR director that is here.

[4:47:19] If we could pull up transparent Nevada so we could see the salaries that are paid out.

[4:47:26] And I think that we are all owed a explanation of why those salaries are paid out and to show the work that has been done by any of them.

[4:47:37] We have, I don't know, how many people in B&G, yet there's nothing to show for any employee that's done work, there's no roads fixed, there's nothing, there's nothing to show for it.

[4:47:50] And since we're talking about salaries, there needs to be somebody that's looking into this and that's just throwing money out and paying administrative assistance, 160,000 dollars a year.

[4:48:05] And no, that's not the basis with their benefits package, but regardless, that's what it is.

[4:48:11] It's showing that we have so many people working for the animal control, and whether it's with the kennels or whatever, it's still all combined.

[4:48:18] But yet, we have two people, two of it, animal control officers.

[4:48:24] You know, if you have one here, and then one in armor goes or whatever.

[4:48:29] I would love to be able to pull that up for everybody, for somebody to explain to us what the salaries are being paid for.

[4:48:35] And I think that we're owed that, instead of continuously asking us to get money, cut back those salaries, Mr. Wagner.

[4:48:45] And don't, don't sit there and shake your head and laugh at me, sir.

[4:48:47] This is fact.

[4:48:49] This is your public comment. Why don't you use it?

[4:48:51] I am.

[4:48:53] I am.

[4:48:55] But you keep dodging that and keep laughing at me when I bring it up.

[4:49:02] And

[4:49:05] by the way, just so we're clear on this,

[4:49:08] there's been wage studies for Nye County,

[4:49:11] comparing them with the other 16 counties in Nevada,

[4:49:16] and you'd be amazed.

[4:49:17] Do some research on that.

[4:49:19] I'm not talking to like that.

[4:49:20] We can't do that.

[4:49:21] Go ahead, Linda.

[4:49:22] I can talk after.

[4:49:23] I'll talk to you after.

[4:49:27] Thank you.

[4:49:29] Linda Clark.

[4:49:31] Okay, where do I start?

[4:49:33] Okay.

[4:49:35] I'm sorry, Deborah.

[4:49:38] Yeah.

[4:49:38] Tell it for the record.

[4:49:40] You said lend a clerk.

[4:49:41] See, L-A-R-K?

[4:49:43] Okay.

[4:49:44] It's so easy to spell.

[4:49:46] Okay.

[4:49:53] A fear.

[4:49:55] That we're just going nowhere.

[4:49:59] And where we're going?

[4:50:00] Is nowhere that no one wants to go. Does that make sense? We don't want to go where you're going. That's the best way to discover it. I feel like this county has been abused, overlooked, and put into a position where, well, I've already said this, we don't matter and you don't really listen to us and everything you do is for what you want to do.

[4:50:27] And we're sitting here, twiddling our thumbs, thinking,

[4:50:31] why do we deserve this?

[4:50:34] We pay our taxes.

[4:50:35] We're good people, right?

[4:50:37] Yes.

[4:50:38] We're good people.

[4:50:41] And we deserve better than what we're getting.

[4:50:44] I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

[4:50:48] What, Deborah?

[4:50:49] Does this have anything to do with the subject that we're talking about?

[4:50:52] This resolution.

[4:50:53] About your what?

[4:50:54] The resolution, the agenda.

[4:50:58] I thought you finished that with her. No, we're still in resolution. I'm number third. Okay, what was this again, because I ran into the bathroom and I didn't get that last part

[4:51:11] remind me.

[4:51:13] I can speak on it. I'll be happy to speak on it.

[4:51:16] Is the time up?

[4:51:19] I sure.

[4:51:20] Just to hold held it.

[4:51:21] This is the adoption of the resolution 2026-16.

[4:51:25] And what was the resolution for?

[4:51:27] The position evaluation policy?

[4:51:31] Division resolution?

[4:51:33] Position evaluation policy?

[4:51:36] Or the people that work here?

[4:51:37] Yes.

[4:51:39] Okay, yeah, we probably need that.

[4:51:43] Badly.

[4:51:46] Same to everybody on the calling thing.

[4:51:52] We're going to close public comment.

[4:51:56] Commissars?

[4:51:59] You are like to make a motion to adopt resolution number 2026-16.

[4:52:03] Motion second all of us in favor.

[4:52:06] Aye.

[4:52:07] Aye.

[4:52:08] Five zero.

[4:52:08] Thank you 14 please.

[4:52:12] And I'm 14 for possible action discussion in deliberation to a.

[4:52:17] Approver reject the addition of one part time no benefits fleet driver.

[4:52:21] in B fund from 101-01 general fund.

[4:52:25] All right, and I will be speaking to this.

[4:52:27] Perfect public comment.

[4:52:28] Sam, are we having anybody on the phone, please?

[4:52:31] I'm sorry, Steven.

[4:52:33] Go to here.

[4:52:34] Come on up.

[4:52:37] Steven Pippman, P-I-T-M-A-N.

[4:52:39] On the agenda item request forum, there's slight confusion for me.

[4:52:43] It says, approve or reject edition of one part-time,

[4:52:46] no benefit, sleep driver in the description.

[4:52:49] And it says, a salary and then benefits, I will explain that.

[4:52:57] Thank you.

[4:52:58] Sam, anybody on the phone please?

[4:52:59] No chair.

[4:53:00] Come on up, Beth.

[4:53:05] I always have to pull this down.

[4:53:08] Beth for Savage B.O.R.I.I.C.W.I.C.H. First of all, I think that when it gets this

[4:53:14] time of the day, we should start putting some lavender through the air, something else,

[4:53:19] you know, to calm a citrus.

[4:53:20] you know, just, that would be really good. Well, we could drink, but anyway, okay, so here's what I think you should do.

[4:53:33] Fund 10101. You should not touch that for the next six months, period.

[4:53:43] The part-time fleet driver,

[4:53:46] What department is he for, or is he for all of, you know,

[4:53:51] Nik County, and whatever, wherever he's coming from,

[4:53:56] that is who should pay.

[4:53:58] If it's different departments, then it should be each department

[4:54:02] and not 101. 101. 101 should be off limits,

[4:54:07] unless there's an absolutely horrendous emergency.

[4:54:12] So what I got to say, thanks.

[4:54:14] Thank you, Sam, everybody on the phone, please.

[4:54:18] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[4:54:20] Please speak in the name for the record.

[4:54:25] Well, Commissioner, it's Michael David, Garcia, GA, RCA.

[4:54:29] And I'm just kind of curious the way you're hiding this language

[4:54:32] in the way you shuffle the budget to round with the accounts.

[4:54:37] I think that it's the collective bargaining agreement.

[4:54:42] There are another half, it's mission when it comes to reclassifying

[4:54:48] It's just for that driver to go up and back or forth to tone and fall, but it's just closed

[4:54:53] tone and fall down, and then we say 2.4 million and reoccurring costs turn up.

[4:55:00] Just to seek down here and form where it belongs. It's crazy. Our county don't have their seat

[4:55:05] out in the ski. It's a saving money. It's transparency. You're hiding the agenda item by not even

[4:55:14] articulate what it's for. Thank you. Thank you. 300,000 a year. That's what that'll get you

[4:55:23] done?

[4:55:34] Angelina

[4:55:35] it for. And it's probably in the description but unfortunately my phone died. So I don't

[4:55:42] understand probably more helpful to everybody if that was printed out as well as the

[4:55:47] agenda. Could you let us know what the fleet driver is for?

[4:55:52] Doesn't look in the back up?

[4:55:55] Yeah, I will give. Okay, sorry, sorry. I'm sorry.

[4:55:58] I'm sorry. Oh, it's hard to comment on something. I know.

[4:56:02] So it's kind of backwards there.

[4:56:04] It's backwards.

[4:56:05] So can we come back up after we're more informed?

[4:56:07] Probably not.

[4:56:08] I think since our minutes have already been cut down

[4:56:10] in two minutes and there's only like 20 of us here.

[4:56:12] So Clark has no comment on any item other than three minutes

[4:56:15] in the beginning and three minutes at the end.

[4:56:18] Here.

[4:56:20] My question is pertaining to this particular agenda

[4:56:22] that you guys have not informed us of

[4:56:24] and you're going to tell us after the fact

[4:56:25] after we've already been up for public comment.

[4:56:27] So how are we supposed to make an informative

[4:56:30] comment without having all the information.

[4:56:37] I'm trying not to interrupt her. Well, I'm

[4:56:40] pausing for an answer. Well, your time is running.

[4:56:44] Well, I, I like to let you work

[4:56:46] that. You're, you're, you're, you're good. Well, thank you. Come on up, Susie.

[4:56:54] Okay, so I'll

[4:56:55] ask the co-hostion. I'll make the comment. I have the backup. I read the part-time

[4:57:04] person for a fleet driver and I read the section that talks about benefits and other total

[4:57:12] costs which Brett has already interrupted and said he will explain.

[4:57:18] Well, there's no explanation as to what this person is, what department they're coming

[4:57:23] from, what their job is, there's no backup for it.

[4:57:28] So we're all without information, you're without it too, unless you already know what it is.

[4:57:37] But once again, the information that's put together for us to determine and evaluate as the public during these meetings or at any other time if we choose to email you or call you isn't there.

[4:57:54] So please answer the question after our public comments so that we could know that in the future it'd be nice to know it before the public comments

[4:58:03] So we have something valid to say

[4:58:06] Thank you

[4:58:07] Thank you, Sam anybody on the phone,

[4:58:11] please

[4:58:11] Yes, Chair the caller is unmuted please speak and spell your name for the record

[4:58:14] All

[4:58:23] right, we're gonna close public. Oh, wait. Do you have any more and deal the caller is unmuted?

[4:58:28] Please speak and spell your name for the record

[4:58:32] Yeah, it's a good thing you guys didn't hang up there because otherwise I thought I was going to have to write another one out of the list.

[4:58:39] Bruce Johnson, jailweight, that's a win.

[4:58:42] You know, these last two speakers, your raise a very valid question to you guys.

[4:58:47] And this question has been raised to you guys in the past.

[4:58:51] Seems to be the way that you guys set up doing your business here.

[4:58:55] And I don't really think that's acceptable to the people.

[4:59:00] It's more to the benefit of you guys than that to the benefit of the people.

[4:59:05] And so I think we have a conflict of interest here.

[4:59:09] So I'm going to nicely ask you guys or instruct you actually.

[4:59:14] And I'll follow who's up as a notice.

[4:59:16] To make them correct and hit the process please.

[4:59:19] Thank you.

[4:59:20] Sam, do everybody else would like to instruct me?

[4:59:24] No chair.

[4:59:24] closing public comment. Go ahead, manager.

[4:59:29] Excuse me.

[4:59:30] So,

[4:59:34] what we've discovered since we had the fleet driver retire.

[4:59:38] He was funded entirely out of buildings and grounds.

[4:59:42] It was a service to many different departments.

[4:59:46] One of the big issues I was noticed is there is sometimes sensitive documents

[4:59:52] documents that need to be brought back and forth for the clerk's office and then for the justice.

[5:00:00] There is other documents that, you know, other departments you lies. But as far as the benefits, like I asked the same question, because actually Commissioner Conegasme, because when I had gotten the estimate from HR, it was just a whole number of 25,123.

[5:00:24] But we do still have to pay, sold security, we have to pay workers' comp, we have to pay.

[5:00:30] Those types of costs that are mandated, and that's what that $3,314 is.

[5:00:37] So the salary is $20.99, 21, 808, and 61 cents, and then you add those other costs.

[5:00:47] That's where we come up with the $25.23.

[5:00:50] And what I am proposing is that this get borne by the departments that utilize this service.

[5:00:59] So it isn't just a direct cost to one single department, like it was, with buildings and grounds.

[5:01:06] We were trying to help their budget.

[5:01:11] The other part of it is, we did use to have the school district that was involved in it.

[5:01:17] is no longer going to be the case. Well, we're proposing is a two-day, a week fleet service,

[5:01:24] Tuesdays and Thursdays. They are going to use a fleet vehicle out of our pool to check out for

[5:01:33] the day and check back in each of those two days. We're not going to have to buy a new vehicle.

[5:01:37] We're not going to have to be driving a truck back and forth that used to get like nine or 13 miles

[5:01:43] to the gallon, we'll be driving something that will get 35 miles to the gallon.

[5:01:48] We're not going to be hauling cars or that kind of stuff that will be handled by that

[5:01:53] department themselves, but we will be able to take all the parts, you know, stuff that

[5:01:59] will fit in a regular passenger car.

[5:02:02] So again, alleviate and spread this out.

[5:02:05] A lot of people I heard from the comments, they don't realize every single department with

[5:02:09] exception of special revenue departments like road department are all paid out of the general fund.

[5:02:17] So including buildings and grounds so it's not that we're changing a funding source but instead

[5:02:23] having it all hit one department we're looking at hitting you know the five or six different

[5:02:30] departments with like a five four to five thousand dollar cost for the service

[5:02:39] and it's

[5:02:40] And it is a vital service for mainly for the courts and the DA's office utilizes a little

[5:02:48] lot because again they have time sensitive documents that have to be up when courts in session.

[5:02:59] Mr. Scott anything?

[5:03:01] Make a motion.

[5:03:02] Yes, ship.

[5:03:03] Go ahead.

[5:03:04] Thank you.

[5:03:05] Thank you, manager.

[5:03:08] To help clarify please.

[5:03:09] And we have Justice Court in BAD, so that would this include a stop in BAD for their mail or deliveries?

[5:03:19] It's going to be one trip up and one trip back a day.

[5:03:23] And it'll have scheduled stops, you know, which will include a few here in Peromp and then obviously BAD and then Tonopo.

[5:03:35] Okay, so wherever there's a stop they will be required to to incur some of the some of the costs correct.

[5:03:45] Okay, thank you.

[5:03:48] Thank you, Commissioner.

[5:03:51] Don't agree to the right.

[5:03:53] I'll make a motion to approve the addition of one part time.

[5:03:57] A little better if it's fleet driver.

[5:04:00] And fun from how do you want to work that?

[5:04:06] It'll be fun from 101-01 with the exception of the road department.

[5:04:12] We will be able to charge some to the road department for the equipment shops for anything

[5:04:19] we run for them.

[5:04:21] And I can't remember what one was going to want to come out of there.

[5:04:25] How are you going to split it up?

[5:04:27] It's going to get added to the departmental budget for the service and supplies, whatever it

[5:04:34] fall yeah that to the funding yeah it'll be split and I can tell you the list of the

[5:04:40] departments all the guys I did bring that in here but if you want to specify

[5:04:46] which departments we can do yeah we'll do it

[5:04:50] yes second two board seconds we have a motion in two seconds all doesn't

[5:04:55] Hi.

[5:04:57] Hi.

[5:05:02] All right, can we do all of these together? Can we open them all together?

[5:05:11] All right, we're going to open them all together, 15, 16, 17, 18.

[5:05:16] All right, item 15 report by Zina, regarding the budget status for the fourth quarter of fiscal year,

[5:05:24] for 9 County and all 7 entities pursuant to NRS 354.290 and I'm 16 for possible action.

[5:05:34] Discussion, deliberation and or direction to staff about the fiscal year 2026 financial update.

[5:05:41] Direct staff on any related financial item to enhance financial transparency and being fiscal stewards with the use of the tax dollars.

[5:05:50] Item 17 for possible action discussion and deliberation and or direction to staff about the fiscal year 2027 financial update direct staff on any related financial item to enhance financial transparency and being fiscal stewards with the use of tax dollars and item 18 for possible action discussion deliberation and direction to staff on cost saving measures to require department ahead approval on overtime.

[5:06:20] Okay, I'm going to talk about fiscal 26 first, and then I'll go in, I'm sorry, so 1516 and 18.

[5:06:36] Those are the three that I will speak to first.

[5:06:40] Item 15 is a requirement for NRS for us to report every quarter, the results, the budget and the actual.

[5:06:49] So the results that we have for the fourth quarter includes the full year, up to the point where we've closed accounts payable.

[5:07:00] We still need to do our year-end accruals.

[5:07:04] We still need to do account analysis.

[5:07:07] We need to look at our balance sheet to see that our assets and liabilities have been reconciled.

[5:07:12] And then also to do a revenue and expenditure analysis to compare current year and a prior year to look for appropriateness.

[5:07:24] So a couple of things I'd like to point out.

[5:07:28] As of the time of this report, we did not have the C tax payment for June.

[5:07:36] And at this point, our revenues are better than budget.

[5:07:41] So, no, we're not losing money. We're not in the deficit.

[5:07:46] Right now, the way that it looks, we are, but we will be at the end of the year.

[5:07:53] It looks very promising. I am not going to say that until the audit report is done,

[5:07:58] and I have the audit report in my hands, because the auditor can come up with any type of adjustment that is unexpected.

[5:08:08] But the way it looks, it's very promising, so that takes care of item 15, and at the back the very last page of item 15 is a report of unusual items, so that as reference to talk about revenues and expenditures,

[5:08:33] We've also have recognized an increase in tax penalties, and we deserve a big shout-out to the assessor and the Treasury Department for getting on the phone and making calls for delinquent taxes.

[5:08:53] So, that takes care of item 15,

[5:09:06] I'd like to talk a few items on item 16, item 16 is basically the financial update.

[5:09:14] So, because we implemented cost saving measures and we restricted our spending for the past four months since the end of May,

[5:09:29] Our revenues, excluding our last month, we're still trying to get, we still have the C tax and some other adjustments.

[5:09:40] Our revenues are coming in at $57 million, and our expenditures are coming in at $50, almost $59 million.

[5:09:49] So, the deficit right now sits at $1.7 million, but that is before the final pay.

[5:10:00] C tax, which typically is historically, has been around one and a half to $2 million.

[5:10:07] And what was the deficit when we started these cost saving efforts?

[5:10:12] So back in April, we were forecasting a deficit of $7.5 million.

[5:10:23] So it's because of the cost saving measures and also the majority part is because of the better than budget revenues.

[5:10:34] The revenues really saved us.

[5:10:41] So the last piece of items of fiscal 26, actually, let me open it up for questions.

[5:10:49] if anybody has questions on the financials, and then I'll talk about the one-course saving

[5:10:55] measure that I have, which is on overtime.

[5:11:00] Thank you, Mr. Mr. Bore, or Bain, do you guys have anything for Zena right now?

[5:11:06] Chair, I'm waiting for overtime.

[5:11:08] Sure, thank you.

[5:11:08] Gotcha.

[5:11:13] Okay, so then I'll talk about overtime.

[5:11:16] So back in the end of May, Board of County Commissioners, you gave direction that all

[5:11:23] over time had to be pre-approved or actually had to be approved by department heads.

[5:11:31] So we took a look at over time for the month of June.

[5:11:39] And just so you know we're going to be coming back every couple of months to be talking about the improvements that are being done on overtime.

[5:11:47] As you know, or not know, maybe not as clear, over time was not a budgeted item in our fiscal 27 budget.

[5:12:00] So, we took a look at the policy and the HR policy has a couple of components to it.

[5:12:09] So people can earn comp time, as long as it's within their, unless there is a difference in the collective bargaining agreement.

[5:12:21] The policy requires what theization in advance before the employee can work over time.

[5:12:29] There is an exception that firefighters, their over time is built in to their collective

[5:12:38] bargaining agreements.

[5:12:40] So we don't have much say in that over time.

[5:12:43] It's part of their schedule.

[5:12:48] So we sent out an email in the beginning of August asking department heads to provide the

[5:12:55] support for their overtime, the documented support approving it. And as you can see on the

[5:13:02] back up, we have 12 departments that had overtime in the month of June. Of the 12 departments,

[5:13:17] most of them complied with the policy and the direction from the commissioners to approve

[5:13:24] over time. We have a few departments that issued a blanket over time memo to the finance

[5:13:34] department and that blanket over time memo was dated after the overtime was paid.

[5:13:43] So I met

[5:13:45] with HR payroll and to come up with suggestions on how we can tighten that area.

[5:13:56] And then since the policy related only to the county side, we do have one department

[5:14:06] that actually charges both the county and the town and that's animal services.

[5:14:12] So in your backup I include the town of Perumps so that you can see the total cost of animal

[5:14:19] services over time.

[5:14:24] So now if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

[5:14:28] I'm going to start your board.

[5:14:31] Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Zena, for that.

[5:14:39] As one of the policies that you mentioned,

[5:14:44] that employees must receive approval in advance.

[5:14:51] is not conducive to

[5:14:57] the last hour.

[5:15:00] Our minutes of people's shifts, especially first responders, for example. I'm not being the clerks,

[5:15:11] not being the clerks attorney. We have that position already filled. He's actually here in

[5:15:17] Toronto, but I would assume that the overtime for June under the clerks category had to do specifically

[5:15:28] with the primary election.

[5:15:35] I know that I said at the last meeting that this came up is for

[5:15:40] his cost-saving measures,

[5:15:44] that department heads were required to approve, were required to approve

[5:15:51] all over time. And I believe that's happened and looking at the chart, there's 11 of what I

[5:15:57] that's it, women departments of what I counted.

[5:16:01] And the biggest offender of overtime,

[5:16:06] and not in a negative way, is the sheriff's office.

[5:16:10] But that's historic, that's a historic number,

[5:16:14] and an activity.

[5:16:16] But I would ask the commissioners to consider

[5:16:22] that at this time to continue the momentum of approved

[5:16:27] over time is that there is no over time whatsoever. And if there is any over time

[5:16:37] incurred, a type of justification form with an explanation must accompany the approved payroll

[5:16:45] for any and all pay periods. Not just having the department had approved the over time

[5:16:53] because they weren't even there, for example, but they were told that, oh, I had to do

[5:17:01] overtime. Okay, it's approved. They say it. They log it. It has to be paid.

[5:17:10] I believe

[5:17:10] there should be a justification type form, as I mentioned, with a full explanation of why

[5:17:17] they're incurring overtime. And that's submitted to payroll. That's a military HR, and

[5:17:24] That's under review by the HR director and also the county manager.

[5:17:32] And I'm certain that there will be times that those justification forms will be challenged

[5:17:41] and that will eliminate some most over time in the future.

[5:17:52] So again, I'd ask the commissioners to please consider that under this number 18 agenda is

[5:18:00] I'll turn it back over to you, Chair.

[5:18:03] Thank you, sir.

[5:18:04] So, that would be in, yeah, direction of the staff.

[5:18:09] To include Mr. Dr. Bores.

[5:18:13] Direction.

[5:18:14] Correct?

[5:18:14] Go ahead, see you, sir.

[5:18:20] Are we okay to talk about fiscal questions?

[5:18:24] Sorry, Mr. May.

[5:18:27] My question is, I don't, I want to put pressure on the talent, but is it, is it?

[5:18:32] is a way to make the town do the same thing just for consistency

[5:18:34] for over time.

[5:18:36] I think she'll be everybody.

[5:18:40] That's my question.

[5:18:41] Is that okay?

[5:18:41] I would agree with that commissioner,

[5:18:45] because we do have, for instance, our buildings and grounds

[5:18:48] that we're looking at that as considerable over time.

[5:18:54] And we're trying to evaluate if it's a scheduling issue

[5:18:57] or what it is.

[5:18:59] But I definitely would agree with that.

[5:19:03] How do we how do we make that happen to vote on it or can just do it?

[5:19:07] They would go in direction, right?

[5:19:10] Good direction to staff.

[5:19:13] Direction directions noted.

[5:19:15] We're including first responders in all of that.

[5:19:18] Now, I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell a fire guy that's out in the middle of a house fire.

[5:19:24] You've got to go.

[5:19:25] You've got to go.

[5:19:26] So that is, so fire is collective bargaining agreement.

[5:19:31] their schedule, which we have chief here. He can talk to the schedule. It's automatically

[5:19:38] at part of their schedule.

[5:19:42] They work two days on one day off. So it's built into their weekly,

[5:19:51] they're bi-weekly pay.

[5:19:54] Okay.

[5:19:56] What else you got for us?

[5:19:59] That was it.

[5:20:00] Okay. Councillor Cullis, I'm sorry.

[5:20:03] Sorry, I had a commissioner.

[5:20:05] Just a really quick, and this might be, I'd get back to me thing.

[5:20:08] I'm looking at the sheriff's numbers, and I think the commissioner's

[5:20:10] Board was kind of talking about, and I'm not trying to open up a

[5:20:13] won't hear another bad thing, but 33,000, that's dollars in over time.

[5:20:18] What is that out? Was it 33,000 dollars?

[5:20:21] That is $30,000, yes.

[5:20:24] And if we're doing that a month, that'd be like 300,000, that's approximately two

[5:20:27] I mean, I like to just hear the finance directors opinion of this because otherwise it's going to turn political.

[5:20:35] Why not just like maybe swap that out for like one full-time deputy? Is there a fiscal reason why you don't want to do that?

[5:20:42] I believe you have to look at their schedule and that would be a question for the sheriff or for the finance manager to talk about how these schedule their staff.

[5:20:52] So the concern is that it's a tricky, if we don't have a manager that can execute that,

[5:20:58] then it would all fall apart and we'd end up spending more money.

[5:21:00] That's basically, is that correct?

[5:21:01] This is a management problem we're dealing with.

[5:21:06] Well, it would be nice to weigh the magic one and say, hey, let's just hire one and two guys.

[5:21:11] It's 130,000 instead of 330,000.

[5:21:14] But the problem is that if we don't manage those two new guys,

[5:21:17] our gals, or whatever correctly, then we might be doing the two,

[5:21:20] And then in addition to the overtime, if it's not managed correctly, there's a good kind of

[5:21:26] one to share this.

[5:21:29] In general terms, I'm going to agree with you commissioner.

[5:21:35] So, in the policy, it does talk about if the department has an overtime policy.

[5:21:43] So, I did inquire about that and I did that this morning.

[5:21:48] so I haven't had a chance to look at my email or to follow up on that.

[5:21:54] Can we should have been, may I mention something?

[5:21:57] Excuse me.

[5:21:58] I don't want to thank you.

[5:22:00] So I understand mathematically what you're saying.

[5:22:04] But we're not talking about just two deputies in Perum.

[5:22:08] We're talking over time for the Sheriff's Office throughout the county.

[5:22:12] And so to hire to get rid of the 31,000 in overtime on paper,

[5:22:17] We hire two deputies. They're in Perump, but they're incurring over time in Ram Mountain or here in Tone of Power or

[5:22:24] And those could be dispatchers. Yes, we can know that it is. Yeah, it's on point. It's not a fine initial price

[5:22:29] If we could just have a bunch of people making widgets in one room, then it would make sense to just hire two new people

[5:22:34] But it's then it becomes a complicated management problem. Yes, and that's where we're at so we need to just figure out

[5:22:41] Maybe at some point we can get from the sheriff's office any kind of any kind of like way to maybe fix that probably here's what I suggest

[5:22:49] It is what a normal company would do. I need to direct that to the discussion about normal. See you're a company

[5:22:53] But an animal company would say sure if we're paying $350,000 a year to actually be more than that

[5:22:59] It's actually more like the $400,000 a year

[5:23:02] How do you recommend with staffing levels to to make that better?

[5:23:07] And so I would like to see your report like that. I don't want to put more pressure on the sheriff's office

[5:23:11] But it would be an interesting. Do you agree with me that'd be an interesting thing to ask for at least?

[5:23:17] Well, Commissioner

[5:23:20] The the sheriff's department's got many different positions. It's not just deputies that incur over time. I mean, it's dispatch. It's

[5:23:29] You know, it's a jail. It's I mean, it's all kind of different for an office. I totally understand

[5:23:35] I was just wondering if there's a way to just not compel it, but just ask if there's a way,

[5:23:40] if you want more people, how do we, if it's a cheaper way to get more people instead of the over time,

[5:23:44] show us the plan, but we have to make sure we're going to blow past that plan.

[5:23:48] I'm not suggesting creating policy.

[5:23:49] I just wouldn't mind seeing just, this is what managers typically do in companies, it's hard,

[5:23:54] it's hard to be a manager, it's not just strutting around and saying, I'm a manager, it's actually

[5:23:57] doing stuff like this.

[5:23:58] So I don't know if it's possible, if we could get that that would be wonderful if not,

[5:24:02] then that's what it is.

[5:24:03] That kind of plays back to the last item, or the item with the position policy,

[5:24:13] filling position policy. That's all kind of to get that information for that justification.

[5:24:20] So that's exactly what we're trying to accomplish. So you're on the right track.

[5:24:26] So the last piece, that was the Sheriff's Office, that did not include the overtime for the

[5:24:34] middle of the page, which is an additional $18,700.

[5:24:41] Just to point that out, since we were talking about that.

[5:24:51] OK, come on, sir, it's the week.

[5:24:53] I have something to present.

[5:24:54] Chair, the only thing I heard came from direction to staff

[5:24:57] in regards to item number eight.

[5:25:00] 18, of the items that we've opened, but I think seeing it has one more to discuss.

[5:25:06] When you're done, then we'll open public.

[5:25:10] Okay. So fiscal 27, we started the budget process, and it was very difficult this year to say the least.

[5:25:21] We had to pull back on filled positions, open positions, which was very hard for many departments,

[5:25:31] especially for our safety area.

[5:25:35] And then we also had to do a 34% cut in service and supplies.

[5:25:42] So this is an update where we are with the fiscal 27 budget.

[5:25:49] We had the early employee separation program.

[5:25:54] We are going to be putting forward an agenda item to reduce salaries, benefits,

[5:26:04] and

[5:26:05] we class where the cost savings was a placeholder.

[5:26:08] That's going to be about a million dollars.

[5:26:11] We have to move the jail fund over to the general fund.

[5:26:16] It's going to take a little time to do that because of the transactions have to be stopped so it will take some time for us to cut off the jail fund and bring it over to the general fund.

[5:26:33] But in the most part, this is just a summary to show you where we stand with the fiscal 27 budget.

[5:26:41] Our budget was balanced when we approved it, and because there was so much pushback from

[5:26:51] some departments saying that they did not have enough in their budget for service and supplies,

[5:27:00] I have a few more departments to work with, but so far we have budget and item will be coming back to

[5:27:10] the Board of Commissioners at the next agenda meeting to talk about more specifics. But so far

[5:27:17] we have $1.7 million of service and supplies that departments are asking for. And then we

[5:27:27] still don't have overtime budgeted. So those are the two items for the fiscal 27 budget

[5:27:35] to bring you up to speed of how where we are.

[5:27:47] Let's open public comment.

[5:27:51] Come on up, Steven.

[5:27:58] You awake.

[5:27:59] Yes, sir.

[5:27:59] Steven Pettman, PIT, M-A-N.

[5:28:03] Marine Corps.

[5:28:04] Keep it simple, stupid.

[5:28:07] If I incur $300,000 in overtime,

[5:28:11] that was not budgeted.

[5:28:13] It can't be solved by hiring more people

[5:28:16] to decrease the overtime.

[5:28:20] Yes? Thank you. Thank you. Sam, I'm going to put it on the phone, please.

[5:28:25] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak a little bit about your name for the record.

[5:28:32] Yeah, I'm both handed to the OHA and then OHA and a couple of things, sir. One on the

[5:28:38] 2020-6 feedback, wise comment, Zena, not not committing that would be over or under the budget

[5:28:48] You don't know what the adjusting entries are going to be, and you don't know the last tax payments going to be.

[5:28:54] Well, he's called number two.

[5:28:57] From an over time standpoint,

[5:29:00] the valid point to simplify marine on the over time not being budgeted with the caveat.

[5:29:10] So from an evaluation standpoint,

[5:29:14] what I heard is justification, justification, justification.

[5:29:17] But then here, I think, about ram notification, either.

[5:29:21] So what is, what is the penalty for a respect?

[5:29:25] In here, anything?

[5:29:27] Is it that's going on a watch list?

[5:29:28] Do we have to read that long?

[5:29:30] Or is it something else that's done internally

[5:29:34] about curbing the expense and the cost that are occurring?

[5:29:41] Driving efficiency.

[5:29:43] You know, here, me say that quite a bit.

[5:29:45] but let's do more with less for it as far as a as a 2027 budget. I looked at that I was a little bit disappointed quite frankly.

[5:30:00] One to be at least 10 to 20% of a crucial and a bottom to give yourself leeway when there's in state of inflation.

[5:30:09] To give yourself leeway to be able to pay back some of the excess or some of the benefits that had been occurring on the tensions, et cetera, over time and the increases of unfunded mandates.

[5:30:24] So, all that funding needs to be taken to the account and provide it for it.

[5:30:31] The back there will be time for seconds.

[5:30:33] Thank you.

[5:30:34] The victim.

[5:30:38] Come on down.

[5:30:43] Angelina Jackson, J.A. C. K. K. Soin.

[5:30:47] First, one of the commissioners asked about the deputy situation, you know, if there's one or,

[5:30:53] you know, hiring one full time, it's one less body than.

[5:30:59] Okay, it's so if you hire one full time instead of two and have them on over time or whatever, maybe that means you're going to have one less body.

[5:31:10] So one less deputy.

[5:31:12] Okay, that's just it's common sense.

[5:31:15] Now, without the answer, Zina, you made a comment of what the revenue was and what was paid out.

[5:31:24] If it's 57.7 that was brought in in revenue, but 64 million was paid out just for payroll alone,

[5:31:30] I don't understand how those numbers pay. Yes, man, payroll itself is 64 million.

[5:31:38] And can you stop her time, please? Hold her. Senior, would you please explain to the

[5:32:03] item 16.

[5:32:07] I'm sorry. No, not 16.

[5:32:23] So 16 has full year expenditures of $51 million.

[5:32:28] For the entire year for the entire county, not just payroll.

[5:32:34] And I'm explaining to you. I'm not done.

[5:32:37] Jeanette, within that, it shows the percentage for wages and salaries on item 17 is 23,000,

[5:32:44] 3.5 million and benefits is 16.6.

[5:32:49] So we're not at 64 million by a long shot.

[5:32:51] Thank you. Thank you for holding me.

[5:32:53] I think we're going to look up on Transparent Nevada.

[5:32:56] And that is a legitimate site where it serves the salaries.

[5:33:01] On there, the total with benefits is 64 million.

[5:33:06] Let's talk offline because I can explain some of the

[5:33:09] problem. Some of the differences in the information the way it gets looked at.

[5:33:13] Thank you, Zena.

[5:33:14] That would be really helpful. Thank you, Senior.

[5:33:16] And as for the Sheriff's Department in the jail,

[5:33:19] that should all be under one, including the courts.

[5:33:22] That should be all under one grouping now divided.

[5:33:26] And the Sheriff's Department and the fire department

[5:33:28] are the last ones that should be questioned

[5:33:32] as this hard and worth what's getting paid.

[5:33:34] What are you going to do? Stop a fireman from being in the middle of a fire

[5:33:37] and tell them, oh, you can't pay them over time.

[5:33:40] This is just, again, that's not even rational.

[5:33:44] And to be honest with you, I am formally going to call for forensic audit and for everything,

[5:33:52] yeah, going or incoming, anything, for everything to be on a freeze until everything's investigated,

[5:33:59] because something is not, is not right somewhere, because all this money that's getting paid get,

[5:34:03] there's nothing in this town to show for whatsoever.

[5:34:07] And Mr. Baskovich, you know, you can go ahead and make your facial expressions that's fine.

[5:34:11] It doesn't bother me one bit sir, but it fends other people.

[5:34:14] There's time has done, and I don't know how you say there's nothing to show for it.

[5:34:18] There's nothing to show for it.

[5:34:19] There's roads, there's park. I mean, good God.

[5:34:22] Say, I'm the way everybody on the phone, please.

[5:34:27] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

[5:34:33] Hello, Commissioner. Michael David Garcia, GARP, CIA. Can you hear me? Is my volume okay? Go answer.

[5:34:42] All right, I'm going to try to keep the peaky for you.

[5:34:45] sounds like you need to break these days, but anyhow, I definitely want to point out the fact that

[5:34:54] there definitely need to be a forensic audit and everybody.

[5:35:00] To be able to see that they're actually able to take it for a firm, and our efforts to state that our taxes stay here.

[5:35:06] They can shuffle it all and see how they keep their foot.

[5:35:10] They should be looked at on the private side of the way that handle the public's money.

[5:35:14] But anyhow, I do want to mention to the Marines in the House.

[5:35:20] Perhaps the only way to save this county is for county officials to start going to jail for the crimes they commit.

[5:35:28] And notice that the D.A. didn't need a sensitivity manager's focus on a previous agenda item when it came to this.

[5:35:36] I'm going to go ahead and point out the elephant.

[5:35:38] The D.A. didn't need one of those permission slips to add a courtesy driver.

[5:35:44] You know, all that money is coming from where?

[5:35:46] And how does that agenda item get on there?

[5:35:48] We all heard the D.A. screen.

[5:35:50] I can't do much job. I got to have the resources.

[5:35:53] What about that opinion or the permission to let them in, we count to, we count to, thank y'all.

[5:36:03] Go ahead, Beth.

[5:36:05] Beth for a Savage Bill R. Y. SCWICH.

[5:36:11] I am not an accountant. I hate doing numbers. I failed accounting in school, which I'm just not good at it.

[5:36:20] So, I'm going to ask a couple of questions, and it might be obvious, but because I am not an accountant, I need an answer.

[5:36:30] Why don't departments budget potential overtime?

[5:36:36] When I was in the construction field, and you got people out there, you know, pouring cement, putting up blocks or whatever,

[5:36:43] There could potential be over time because something might happen, there might be a delay, an accident, or something.

[5:36:51] But I think every department should budget potential over time.

[5:36:57] That way it's going to give you guys a clear record of what those departments are doing.

[5:37:02] So, I don't know if that's a stupid idea, but I think that would be the right way to do it.

[5:37:10] Okay, Zena, she just smiles.

[5:37:14] The other thing is, I do not think we should talk about the police or the sheriff or the fire.

[5:37:20] When it comes to overtime, employees, or anything, let's keep them off the side, talk about them in a totally different agenda item.

[5:37:31] Because people get hung up on the police and the fire where the other departments kind of like slide under the door

[5:37:38] And that's not good and we don't know where the money's going and then we reduced

[5:37:45] Services and supplies

[5:37:49] 1.7 million or no 34%

[5:37:54] What were these services and supplies that you guys went that do you have requests for 1.7 million?

[5:38:01] I'd like to know what those are that they need so very badly.

[5:38:07] Thank you.

[5:38:08] Thanks, ma'am.

[5:38:09] Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[5:38:11] Not here.

[5:38:13] All right, Linda.

[5:38:15] Real quick.

[5:38:15] I just have a quick question.

[5:38:16] Linda Clark, silly.

[5:38:17] Okay.

[5:38:21] Zena said, just a few minutes ago.

[5:38:24] Hold on here.

[5:38:26] But the jail of fun should be put in with a general fun.

[5:38:30] and it would be the purpose. Why would it be a benefit?

[5:38:35] Joe doesn't even know. You know, Joe?

[5:38:43] Okay, I just wanted an explanation for that. If we had separate funds before a while of a

[5:38:48] sudden, there we can come in going those funds. Thank you. Thank you, Sam, anybody else?

[5:38:54] No chair. Closing public. Easy answer. No income. We had a jail fund established because we had a

[5:39:00] ice contract. We don't have one anymore. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. All right,

[5:39:05] commissioners, what are we doing with us?

[5:39:08] I figure out how to do whatever we want.

[5:39:09] I just want to say that, well, you know that Commissioner

[5:39:15] Jibor had a great idea for his direction to staff.

[5:39:18] I'd like to see that.

[5:39:19] And Bane.

[5:39:20] And Bane, that they put that together.

[5:39:23] But first and foremost, I would like to recognize when it comes to item number

[5:39:26] 16, which is an overview of where we started with a six point almost five

[5:39:31] six point five.

[5:39:33] Yeah, well it says 6.5 deficit and it's looking like by the time we get done with C-tax

[5:39:39] we might have no deficit and that is by the hard work of this county in the town of Prump to

[5:39:44] make sure that happened and these commissioners have to take these hard hits for everybody

[5:39:48] out there telling us we're losing money in the meantime we're tightening our belts and tightening

[5:39:53] our belts and tightening our belts and so thank you Zena thank you to your financial team

[5:40:00] Because you had to make sure all that got done and come up with the ideas to make it happen, came from this board. So, good job, board. Thank you, chair.

[5:40:08] Thank you, commissioner. Jebore, you're doing anything or commissioner being.

[5:40:16] Good, thank you. Thank you, Zayna. Thank you. All right, do we have to vote on this?

[5:40:21] I believe the direction was good enough.

[5:40:25] Okay, closing that out, moving to 21.

[5:40:31] I believe it or not.

[5:40:34] Item 21, general public comment.

[5:40:37] Up to three minute time limit per person.

[5:40:39] Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda.

[5:40:42] Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control

[5:40:46] of the board of county commissioners.

[5:40:48] Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period

[5:40:51] and tells specifically, included on an agenda as an action item.

[5:40:55] Thank you for that. All right, see, I'm doing everybody on the phone, please.

[5:41:03] No chair.

[5:41:03] I'm on up, Susie.

[5:41:10] Susie Hurts, H-E-R-T-Z.

[5:41:14] Just something I noticed, I've noticed many times actually,

[5:41:19] and that has due with an expense of the county.

[5:41:22] And I was, when I came in this morning, the sprinklers were running in the eye all over the grass.

[5:41:30] Where I come from, which is the less drought-strickened area, people generally watered their

[5:41:40] grass in their plants at nighttime when the winds were usually calmer and it was quieter

[5:41:48] and it was more effective use of the water.

[5:41:52] So, I might make a suggestion that that be looked at here, everywhere you go throughout town where there's any public land.

[5:42:03] The sprinklers are always running in the daytime. The wind blows the water away. It doesn't water what you're watering.

[5:42:09] Today there was a guy with his dog in the park and he couldn't use the park. He was walking around the edge on the pavement because he couldn't get to the grass.

[5:42:21] I hate to repeat myself, but until something changes, I guess I'll have to, and that is to reinforce the fact that we who live here have moved here or have come here to live in a rural small community, and that doesn't mean we're against change and it doesn't mean we're against progress.

[5:42:48] Any of us who came from somewhere else came from a much more metropolitan environment that this,

[5:42:54] so we're used to living a much higher life and a much more sophisticated life.

[5:42:59] But we've chosen to come here and be here and live here.

[5:43:04] And I would respectfully ask that this county administration and everybody in it keep that in mind.

[5:43:11] Thank you, Susie.

[5:43:12] Thank you.

[5:43:13] Thank you.

[5:43:17] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[5:43:19] Please speak in the following name for the record.

[5:43:24] Yeah, my name is Matt Sather, FAD, LER.

[5:43:27] Good evening, commissioners.

[5:43:30] I just want to put something on the radar here

[5:43:32] if I'm coming down the line,

[5:43:34] or that I've been hearing from them, though,

[5:43:35] that's a municipal, Toronto Police Force,

[5:43:38] which would add a level of bureaucracy in our community

[5:43:41] that I would urge you to really question

[5:43:44] as to whether or not we would need that.

[5:43:47] My personal opinion, no way.

[5:43:48] You've already gotten rid of something like that in the past in the form of a town board.

[5:43:52] I don't think we need that again. We don't need that expense.

[5:43:56] Focus resources on bolstering the existing 9 County Sheriff's Office.

[5:44:00] Please, thank you.

[5:44:01] Thank you. Come on up, Linda.

[5:44:06] Linda Clark, Sally, are okay.

[5:44:08] I just have a couple of observations from a couple of things that were on the agenda earlier.

[5:44:13] So I hope that I can speak to those.

[5:44:18] When Mr. Sutton was up here talking about the project that he is representing, they talked

[5:44:24] a lot about what they're going to do over there, and the thing that really threw me off

[5:44:27] the most, and I'm sure the people that live up there in that area are really concerned

[5:44:31] about it, is water. Not once they mention water and what they're going to be using, and

[5:44:39] that seems to be kind of a concern. They did say that they were going to put in

[5:44:45] a park. Okay, the park needs to be watered and I'm assuming that the park is below

[5:44:52] Where they were gonna put their whatever that thing was that they were gonna keep the water from I don't know the technical terms

[5:45:00] The basic thing, that was going to be below the basin, was a park going to be above it, in it.

[5:45:07] Okay, so if we have a flood or some other kind of prompt and we know that area if there is a flood zone and they do have flooding up there, really bad.

[5:45:17] And at the one meeting that we had, a lot of people did complain about it.

[5:45:21] And they were so upset that they all left at the end of the thing because of the decisions that were made, people just walked out.

[5:45:27] It was disgusting, but it happened and it was deserved.

[5:45:32] So, my question is if we're going to put a park where there's a possibility that we can have a flood and kids could get hurt,

[5:45:40] Gee, we'll have another splash pad that is an authorized.

[5:45:43] So, why? Why wouldn't we care about that?

[5:45:48] I mean, obviously these kids could get hurt, somebody could get hurt really bad.

[5:45:52] And they weren't talking about the water, and the flooding, they were talking about an area where they're going to put a park, and they're obviously going to be using water.

[5:46:04] So I don't understand why we would put something in an area where the kids could be hurt.

[5:46:11] Thank you, Linda. Yes.

[5:46:12] And we got anybody on the phone, please?

[5:46:14] Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

[5:46:16] Please, because of all your name for the record.

[5:46:21] Oh, yes.

[5:46:21] Amy Nelson, Gini L. S. L. N.

[5:46:25] I was going to talk about all the building

[5:46:31] and all the constructions that are going on with the solar farms.

[5:46:39] The water is a huge issue.

[5:46:41] And we keep making plans to build more houses and put more people out here and we just

[5:46:51] we just don't have the water and our infrastructure is failing.

[5:46:56] We keep raising taxes on a few of us that pay taxes on our homes to support the entire

[5:47:06] county.

[5:47:06] And that has to change, too.

[5:47:11] We have to have some other form be it fundraisers,

[5:47:16] or something that the county can do to involve the people

[5:47:23] to trust the government, to be forced to the government,

[5:47:29] and be part of it.

[5:47:31] But it's something to think about, I don't know,

[5:47:34] any of you interested now. Maybe our new board will be. Thank you. Thanks, Amy. Come on down, please.

[5:47:48] Angelina Jackson, JAC, K.S. Owen. I'm not sure if we're being given two or three minutes.

[5:47:54] If the time was set for two or three minutes, Mr. Wagner said that it was going to be for three minutes.

[5:48:00] It's two minutes all the time. Mr. Wagner said it three minutes.

[5:48:03] voice in your own time. First of all, I would like to address the board. I don't know which one

[5:48:11] of you made the comment something about referred to somebody as a scumbag. That is uncalled for

[5:48:17] and does not represent a way that a commissioner should behave. Also, the fact that it's going

[5:48:23] well, that's not my district. If you're a commissioner on this board for the county, it's not just

[5:48:28] district they are responsible for it's the entire county so sit in there and you know

[5:48:34] and not putting your input and not being concerned about it then you shouldn't be a part of

[5:48:39] this for what if that's all you're gonna do second or next Mr. Bane you running around the park filming

[5:48:47] the homeless and filming the garbage can in the park is excuse me sir but made you look like a

[5:48:55] range lunatic. That was just unbecoming of anybody, whether in an officer or not. And it kind

[5:49:06] of represents the way that this whole commission has been behaving like the range lunatics.

[5:49:11] So I think we need to set back and look at your own behaviors before you go scrutinizing

[5:49:15] anybody else's decorum as like that word you guys like to throw around but have no meaning

[5:49:20] what it means. You want respect, get respect back, act like you deserve it. And it's

[5:49:30] edited that there's many of the board members here that don't give a damn about the community.

[5:49:36] What's so webb? Because they don't want to listen. And that's fine. Because the only people

[5:49:41] who's looking like a fool here are you guys, not me and not nobody else out here. And again,

[5:49:47] I will be calling for that forensic audit at everybody's payroll business here.

[5:49:51] You're welcome.

[5:49:51] Do we have anybody on the phone, please?

[5:49:54] Yes, sure.

[5:49:54] The caller is unmuted.

[5:49:55] Please.

[5:49:56] Speak in the name for the record.

[5:50:00] The treachera, the RLBV 2 minutes to speak. Wow. Is this going to be something that's going to be 2 minutes going forward?

[5:50:09] Or are we going to go back to our 3 minutes? I had prepared information to share with you that is very valuable and I was cut off.

[5:50:20] So I just want to remind you to please get with the Regional Planning Commission to get it on their agenda in regards to the overlay ordinance that they're working on.

[5:50:30] The owners are waiting, the owners are frustrated, the owners talk to me and tell me everything that's going on, but they build you're not listening and they don't want to talk to you.

[5:50:42] So I'm sorry, I don't want to have to carry out all of this along with Lorraine, we show up at every meeting or we call up every meeting.

[5:50:51] These people want us to carry their burden in their load and their thrust straight it.

[5:50:56] I just want to remind you that NRS chapters two, four, four, and two, seven, eight together,

[5:51:01] reflect that balance between development, property rights, and public need.

[5:51:07] Regulation should not leave properties permanently useless,

[5:51:11] without considering a reasonable pathway forward.

[5:51:14] And we've provided that everyone should have a backup plan when it comes to water.

[5:51:20] Everyone should be able to understand how conservation works.

[5:51:25] That's what I want to say.

[5:51:27] Thank you.

[5:51:28] Thank you.

[5:51:28] Come on down, Beth.

[5:51:33] That's for Savage.

[5:51:34] Be a RY, SCWICH.

[5:51:39] Four years ago, I set up a site from complaint about VAA.

[5:51:44] in our rates out of the blue one month before they instituted them. Nobody knew about it.

[5:51:52] I called and raised Holy Hell. I started a website and it kind of morphed into not only VA,

[5:52:01] now it's morphed into Nik County as well as some out of County towns that have called

[5:52:11] ask questions, and it has involved the majority of people in the town that are on Facebook.

[5:52:19] And I want to say, I am damn proud of all these people standing up and voicing their opinion.

[5:52:28] Everyone of you guys that do any kind of research, I want to say, good job.

[5:52:36] Keep it up because that's what the whole thing was about.

[5:52:39] And it's not to yell at you, I don't, I don't know you guys personally.

[5:52:47] I can yell at you though about the things that are happening because of my frustration.

[5:52:54] And if anybody hates you personally, you then you know, okay, but I don't know you, so

[5:52:59] I can't hate you.

[5:53:01] But sometimes you know, it gets really frustrating when we ask a question, there's no

[5:53:09] an email and they don't get a response. You guys have all been good at returning my emails because

[5:53:16] I guess I'm a pain in the butt and I just keep emailing until I get an answer. So, I just

[5:53:21] want to say, I'm not yelling at you and I don't think everybody is yelling at you. They're

[5:53:29] just yelling at the circumstances that we find ourselves in. So, I'm not speaking for everybody,

[5:53:36] but thank you. Thank you. Sam anybody on the phone please. Yes, Chair the

[5:53:41] caller is unmuted please. Speaking of the spelling your name for the record.

[5:53:48] Yeah, I'll be honest with you. I want to just want to applaud everybody to

[5:53:57] step right here. Step up right here and comments being made. Pretty much I'm going to

[5:54:08] to learn where your grantive authority is at.

[5:54:14] And Mr. Boschovich, if you think he's noticed

[5:54:17] as don't mean nothing,

[5:54:22] you're going to find out

[5:54:23] or take him seriously.

[5:54:26] And I yell, I'm going to go on a pro, please.

[5:54:35] Good afternoon or good evening.

[5:54:38] Commissioners, my name's Emma Valendor,

[5:54:41] EMA, VEL, ADOR, and I am from Amragosa Valley, Nevada.

[5:54:47] I grew up in Peru, but I moved to Amragosa.

[5:54:52] I love Peru, and I love Amragosa.

[5:54:55] And I want to believe that you do care about the residents of Amragosa.

[5:55:00] Especially those who are totally against the Amragosa National Conservation Area. Our town manager,

[5:55:11] I'm sorry, not our town manager, town board, chairwoman, chairman, has called it Ashmeadows National Conservation Area.

[5:55:21] That's the song that's been sung to us. But in the documents that she has submitted to you folks and the public

[5:55:28] plants, department of which I have seen many, it is the Amargo-Sanational Conservation Area,

[5:55:35] and that's really scary. Because that means it's no longer just ash medows, or save ash

[5:55:42] medows. It is the entire Amargo-Savali that is going to be converted into a national monument

[5:55:51] or our national conservation area, which means that that's going to restrict our rights as

[5:55:58] property owners, our wells. If they go dry, the conservation is so-called conservation thing,

[5:56:05] can come in and say, you know what? If you're well as dry too bad, we're not going to let you

[5:56:10] drill another well. Our taxes are going to go up. That's already been proven with other places,

[5:56:16] where property taxes have gone up, where people live close to a conservation area, or a national conservation area, or a park.

[5:56:27] We don't want that. We're not asking for that. We're not the ones looking for trouble.

[5:56:32] So I don't understand why our chairman feels that she can be doing this to us.

[5:56:37] Thank you very much. Okay, thank you so very much.

[5:56:41] Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

[5:56:43] Yes, Chair Collar is a new day to please.

[5:56:45] Speaking of the spelling of your name for the record.

[5:56:50] Hello, Commissioner.

[5:56:51] It's Michael David, we've got a C.A.R.C.A.A.

[5:56:54] and I'll show you this in the last time I asked you today.

[5:56:57] Looking at you here, me, okay.

[5:56:58] Go ahead.

[5:56:59] Go ahead.

[5:57:00] It is the last time.

[5:57:03] Thank you.

[5:57:04] Thank you, thank you.

[5:57:06] I appreciate it.

[5:57:06] I hope I don't get charged for the laughter, but anyhow,

[5:57:10] I want to start off on the right foot when it comes to spiritual warfare, spiritual attacks.

[5:57:14] I definitely want to thank and praise the Jim Marsh family for sharing their Bible with us.

[5:57:21] And I'm hoping that Jim and we'll bring it up and share some more verses with us.

[5:57:28] And with God, nothing's impossible.

[5:57:31] Everybody, our natural rights, our natural prosperity is under attack in every way, shape and form.

[5:57:38] It's timely stand up.

[5:57:39] we see it across, it's every county, every state, 2300 children, a day go missing in this country,

[5:57:48] and we have a problem talking about it. As Christians, we need to rise, we need to rise,

[5:57:55] you know, so for some of these rainbows, you need to go to the Bitticus 38, Romans 2627,

[5:58:01] Fire does nothing without decoration and decree.

[5:58:06] It's all about obedience, sin and Greek is when he missed the target.

[5:58:11] Repent and Greek is when you adjust the mind.

[5:58:15] It has nothing to do about your feelings you're remorse.

[5:58:18] And for me, it's about Matthew, the discernment, plus revelations, plus Psalm 109, and let

[5:58:25] state himself stand over your shoulders, but the liability is coming.

[5:58:30] Civil and criminal,

[5:58:33] little warm Christians, no problem, bring them all.

[5:58:38] The devil only attacks what he owns, but he doesn't know.

[5:58:42] Think about it, think about it, where are you at?

[5:58:45] No bill or write.

[5:58:47] What good is the constitutional oath?

[5:58:49] Bring it.

[5:58:50] 355 times, doubt shall not fear.

[5:58:53] Bring your DAs.

[5:58:54] Bring your income.

[5:58:55] I'm not going to go ahead.

[5:58:58] NetFuentes, FU-A-N-T-E-S.

[5:59:03] I think there's a misconception about the National Conservation Area only being for Amagosa

[5:59:09] Ashtonados.

[5:59:10] This is hence the word national.

[5:59:12] This affects everybody.

[5:59:15] So this will affect Toronto, Crystal, Johnny, off-road clubs, horseback riding, rock-hounding.

[5:59:20] This national conservation area has been in the works for years with Susan Sorrows of Shoshone and Amragosa Conservancy Fish and Wildlife.

[5:59:29] They've been working on this for a long time.

[5:59:31] Remember, the 40-mile radius around Devils Hall, that was stopped because that would affect private property and water-right owners.

[5:59:38] If this goes through, that will be implemented in effect stakeholders.

[5:59:42] Then it was Lithium. Then they stopped that.

[5:59:45] Now they want to put a 20-year withdrawal, mineral withdrawal around that.

[5:59:49] There's pre-existing claims. It doesn't affect that. We have a lot of rich minerals there.

[5:59:54] If you put in a 20-year mineral withdrawal, this will affect the...

[6:00:00] It's been mining there for over 60 years or good stewards of the land and they already have pre-existing claims.

[6:00:06] So I don't know how the NCA will protect them. It could only hurt them if they closed off roads.

[6:00:11] The town has been working on 18 solar farms. And so I just lost baseball dot.

[6:00:20] They've been working on 18 solar farms. So how is that going to save us out there? They're going in.

[6:00:27] So, taking 186,000 acres of land is going to do nothing to help us.

[6:00:32] I'm asking you guys to please stop this.

[6:00:36] We don't need this.

[6:00:37] They've got enough of our land.

[6:00:39] They're not good stewards of the land, so please stop it.

[6:00:42] Thank you.

[6:00:43] Thank you, Annette.

[6:00:43] Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

[6:00:46] I think you've already seen it.

[6:00:47] No chair.

[6:00:57] Oh, yeah, there is none.

[6:00:58] It's a presentation.

[6:01:01] Sorry.

[6:01:02] Go ahead, Sam.

[6:01:05] Come on up.

[6:01:17] Paul Lima's LEM U.S. When he is judged, let him come forth guilty. That's

[6:01:24] the palms 109 chapter 7 that the gentleman had requested for. I want to see today if anybody

[6:01:32] is a victim of their HOA selectively enforcing them. In other words your neighbor gets in trouble

[6:01:37] for having their garbage can out, you don't or vice versa.

[6:01:42] There's a group with the real estate office buzzman.

[6:01:45] This is on our website too.

[6:01:47] Anybody can link in, you can make a complaint formally.

[6:01:50] There's all kinds of complaint forms, by the way, on our website,govoversight.com for the

[6:01:56] inspector general, a matter of fact, to associate with the condition of Ashmedos.

[6:02:00] Maybe some people should go on there and go ahead and make a report associated with that.

[6:02:04] But the OMS buzzman's office will come out.

[6:02:07] They can do something called an alternative dispute resolution for you and your HOA, which

[6:02:11] will give you a little bit more rights and stuff and balance the waters if you have some

[6:02:15] kind of a tyrannical or out of control HOA.

[6:02:17] I have some flyers here if anybody needs those.

[6:02:20] These little quasi-governmental places right now are kind of being swarmed and taken over by

[6:02:26] people that maybe not are of the spirit.

[6:02:28] And so sometimes you might have to just call these guys to say, hey, I need a fair shake.

[6:02:33] I wanted to drop off today. These are the documents that Mr. Marsh wanted me to drop off.

[6:02:39] Could I leave them here on for the guests? This is from to each commissioner from Mr. Jim Marsh.

[6:02:44] These are also some affected landowners who had no idea about this.

[6:02:47] They absolutely did not want the Conservancy and I've made plenty of copies for all of you.

[6:02:52] This here is the cease and desist letter to El Margosa Conservancy.

[6:02:58] And I wish you take service today because I'd like to serve it to you.

[6:03:02] Thank you.

[6:03:10] Thank you very much. Have a good day. Thank you. Go ahead and tell my pop please.

[6:03:18] Oh my daughter. Good evening. My daughter drew a couple of new guys.

[6:03:23] I'm sorry, go ahead. Good evening.

[6:03:26] Thank you. Good evening. My name is Matt Raider.

[6:03:29] Our ADER. I'm the Amigos of River Project Manager for the Nature Conservancy.

[6:03:34] I grew up in front of, I live in Haiti now, so it means a lot to me to have a chance to speak of a half of my organization today.

[6:03:42] I want to clarify a few facts for the public record.

[6:03:46] The Nature Conservancy is a science-based conservation organization dedicated to protecting the lands and waters to sustain people and nature.

[6:03:53] The Nature Conservancy is not involved in the proposed national conservation area that's discussed today.

[6:04:00] And we would not receive land or funding if the proposal were to move forward.

[6:04:06] Nature Conservancy has worked to protect the unique species, habitats of water resources, of that Amragosa watershed for decades.

[6:04:14] In 1983, the Nature Conservancy acquired more than 13,000 acres in Ashmedos to prevent the area from being developed into a proposed 20,000 lot subdivision.

[6:04:25] The land was later transferred to the United States Fish and Wildlife Service, and Ash Meadows National Wildlife Refuge was established in 1984.

[6:04:36] The Refuge protects springs, wetlands, and desert habitats that support a remarkable diversity of plants and wildlife, including many species, found or else in the world.

[6:04:45] However, the Nature Conservancy does not own land within the refuge today and is not involved

[6:04:52] with the National Conservation Area that's being discussed.

[6:04:56] I really appreciate the opportunity to provide this clarification.

[6:05:00] And ensure the public record accurately reflects the Nature Conservancy's role with respect to the proposal being discussed.

[6:05:08] Thank you, and have a nice night.

[6:05:10] Thank you very much, sir. Come on down and for room, please.

[6:05:18] Mason Vale, V-O-E-A-H-L, for the record. I am the Executive Director of Amber Ghost Conservancy, a local nonprofit organization with a mission of working toward a sustainable future for the Amber Ghost River through science, stewardship and advocacy.

[6:05:30] On a clarify, organization is a private, non-governmental organization with no role or authority

[6:05:36] whatsoever in the management of Ashmedos, therefore concerns about management and need

[6:05:41] to be addressed to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

[6:05:44] Anyone who follows the work of our organization knows that over the years we have showed

[6:05:48] up again and again before this commission, town boards, tribal councils, communities throughout

[6:05:54] the region, and the spirit of respect and cooperation to address threats facing the

[6:05:59] to go to River and to help shape solutions to give the river and everyone that depends on it

[6:06:04] a fighting chance of the future. Just three years ago I stood right here, came before the

[6:06:08] county to raise the alarm about rover critical minerals and then reckless lithium mining

[6:06:12] proposal on the doorstep of Ashmedos. Together with the county support we were able to stop

[6:06:17] that threat in its tracks and that's an example of the kind of work organization it's here to

[6:06:22] do to protect water and wildlife in that county. Everyone has the right to express their views,

[6:06:28] participate in public processes that determine how our lands and waters are managed.

[6:06:32] In fact, it's critical that everyone that cares about places like Ashmedos and the

[6:06:37] Amigosarriver continue to do so.

[6:06:39] Our organization enjoys and exercises that right of free speech as well.

[6:06:44] We look forward to continuing to address the myriad threats to the Amigosarriver in the spirit

[6:06:48] of respect and cooperation with NICounty and its communities, because Chair Baskovich

[6:06:52] was correct in his opening remarks this morning.

[6:06:55] We have to figure this out together.

[6:06:56] Thank you, commissioners. Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

[6:07:04] Yeah.

[6:07:04] My name

[6:07:09] is Cindy Bdn to be the I.E.N.T.

[6:07:14] I am, I have a place in Amorgosa and Crystal, and I can't talk about, I say no to the N.C.I. have did a lot of research, and

[6:07:25] the while, and I'm officially came out there, and they're trying to do the same thing they did to us, and they were in our properties out there.

[6:07:33] So I say no. Thank you. Thank you very much.

[6:07:37] Come on, Victor.

[6:07:43] Victor Fuentes, FUE, NTS.

[6:07:48] Well, we have a environmentalist over here today.

[6:07:51] That is good to see, you know?

[6:07:54] They protect everything. They protect everything.

[6:07:57] They protect everything. They set us the human.

[6:07:59] We are the endangered species in Amarosa and Agmeiros.

[6:08:04] in Asmerals, they have killed everything, I don't see one thing that they are saving in Asmerals.

[6:08:14] And every one here in this room can go over there and see with their own eyes,

[6:08:20] but they have done to Asmerals.

[6:08:22] When these people talk Asmerals, you know, a fishing wildlife, it was a beauty, it was a oasis.

[6:08:28] People can write their horses, they can go over there and, you know,

[6:08:33] They, the families, they go over there, they have a lot of recreation over there, they have a lot of fun and a lot of people

[6:08:40] theybra, you know, many of you are here in this room, they enjoy the place, they used to enjoy the place.

[6:08:47] You got to watch metal today, and it's a fire waiting to happen.

[6:08:54] Because the last thing that they have done is to drain the rest of it, and with that whole bunch of fish, die, and my property,

[6:09:01] Every time they cut off my water, my water is cut off right now, as we speak, is cut off right now.

[6:09:07] You can go over there to my property now and see the fish dying, and the water right now.

[6:09:12] They are not saving anything, they are destroying everything in Ashmeros.

[6:09:18] And so I don't see why, we should give in these people one more inch of land.

[6:09:24] Because they don't produce anything, you know, all the water, we have 60 million gallon of water, the other side, they go through there and I go straight to California, with a city center, all of a night county could even touch the water, we can only see it, see it, going by.

[6:09:42] Thank you Victor. So no, no to the NCA. Thank you.

[6:09:46] Sam, do you want anybody on the phone for us, please?

[6:09:50] No chair.

[6:10:01] Hey, my name is Ben Burr, that last time is B-U-R-R, and I was invited out here by some friends

[6:10:09] here in Amigos Valley. I'm the executive director of the Blue Ribbon Coalition. We are a national

[6:10:14] non-profit that does legal and advocacy work to keep public lands open for recreation. And we've

[6:10:22] got called out here because we heard there's this proposed national conservation area. And we wanted

[6:10:31] conservation areas in other states, and the work that groups like the gentleman that

[6:10:38] just spoke to use public land designations for federal government designations to lock

[6:10:43] up our public land. And I'm here, I'm learning about this, and I just wanted to offer our

[6:10:50] services, we will be educating your community and your constituents about the dangers that

[6:10:54] come with the National Conservation Area in the way they reduce access to those public

[6:10:58] and we hope you will take that under

[6:11:00] advisement and in the consideration as this

[6:11:03] proposal that seems to be in

[6:11:04] its early stages of development

[6:11:06] move forward. Thank you.

[6:11:08] Thank you, sir Sam, anybody else please?

[6:11:13] No chair.

[6:11:13] We're going to close public comment and

[6:11:16] move to 20, two please.

[6:11:23] 20, two please.

[6:11:31] He means the other two.

[6:11:35] Mr. Manager comments.

[6:11:37] This item is limited to announcements,

[6:11:40] brief discussions,

[6:11:40] the public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies,

[6:11:44] direction of staff, or topics proposed for future board meetings.

[6:11:48] I think the liberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada

[6:11:52] Open Meeting Law. All right, thank you for that, Mr. Bane.

[6:11:58] Nope, come and stretch.

[6:12:04] Thank you, everybody, for being here today.

[6:12:07] Commissioner Strickla. Thank you, everybody. I know we're trying to adjust this two minute

[6:12:12] time, 79 minutes were saved, which is almost an hour and 20 minutes. We could be here until seven

[6:12:19] o'clock or we could get our business done and our employees and the staff that works so hard

[6:12:23] to be here and help us can have a life.

[6:12:26] It'd be on this. Commissioner Coney, and they're getting paid overtime. It's right. Which we don't

[6:12:32] want. I've heard a lot of conversations today about this week. Excuse me. Excuse me. That is

[6:12:38] a very profound statement. Thank you very much.

[6:12:41] Because every employee is listening to us because they may need to call in to give us information.

[6:12:46] Thank you, sir.

[6:12:47] Very lucky today about national conservation, something or another that no one has ever come

[6:12:52] to me about voting, we just know or otherwise about it. So they ever come here. Maybe you

[6:13:00] guys want to come back and talk about it then, instead of now because we don't know what you're

[6:13:05] So my opinion, better great meeting,

[6:13:13] and I guess I'm done.

[6:13:18] Thank you, Commissioner.

[6:13:20] I'm good.

[6:13:21] I just want to thank everybody for being here.

[6:13:23] And again, I'm going to remind everybody that we're in this as landowners and property owners

[6:13:30] or landowners and citizens and families and everything else here.

[6:13:35] So it's much easier if we try to figure out and work together.

[6:13:38] And please understand that just because we don't maybe necessarily agree with every single thing

[6:13:45] You say or or sometimes even demand. It's like

[6:13:49] With there's 55,000 of us not just this room. So, but thank you and we are out at 5.49

[6:13:59] Actually hold on. Are there any other managers or directors we're back in?

[6:14:04] Okay.

[6:14:05] Now we're out.

[6:14:06] Safe trip to those that are driving home from Tonepa.

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