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[0:00] some more details of exactly what those funds are going to be for but it's for
[0:05] the water tower that makes sense so we just until they get in there and look at
[0:10] it and come up with a good Solution on town to fix it and the different costs
[0:14] associated with it we're really we're not to they know for sure right right
[0:18] now it's just been jumping on hles to get the application and everything
[0:22] approved and get some direction of the projects we're going for okay until the
[0:28] engineers getting there it's really it's not something I'm going to know for
[0:33] sure I know they provided budget sheets but you know little okay we were trying
[0:39] to stay within the allocation and the water tower and I believe once they get
[0:44] into those design plans that's what we'll see exactly how we're going to
[0:47] utilize everything okay well if we can be of any help uh it's my understanding
[0:52] that uh the engine are Engineers had actually looked at it at one point in
[0:57] the past and that they had found on I guess what it was going to take to to to
[1:03] do the repairs because I guess there was a leak somewhere so if we we need to get
[1:07] those records to y'all just let us know and we'll just I mean if that'll help in
[1:12] in any way so after the contract those documents will help a lot now there's
[1:15] going to be some approvals that I'm going to send out I don't know if you
[1:19] were on the list the GL got back to us a directional directional information that
[1:24] goes on contract so I'm going to send that to you and if you can verify that
[1:28] location and make make sure you know some of the street names everything's
[1:32] correct that gets us one step closer to the contract we still have to get a few
[1:36] more of the in our local on but getting to this point means we're close you know
[1:40] are we are we going to get it tomorrow still I'm going to say a year just to
[1:44] stay protect it but I would I would assume at this point we're about three
[1:50] months out from if we can get those all the interal in right we're about three
[1:55] months out and seeing that actual contract dra well that's good because
[1:58] we're still we're still uh I think the water Improvement project where we're
[2:02] going to get the three new water pumps with the new pipes um and the new
[2:06] electron electronic panels and stuff that won't start until probably the end
[2:10] of August or early September so by the time you guys get everything they'll
[2:16] already be kind of in the process and I think it should take probably till about
[2:21] December um either December or early January when that project will be done
[2:26] so then we can just kind of move on to this hopefully if everything works out
[2:32] so won be next
[2:35] year also have environmental getting that clearance as well right so that
[2:40] takes about six months all right on if everything works out right so we should
[2:45] be good and M um is that that two million blah blah that's all divided
[2:51] into all these counties or how actually the way that worked out is These funds
[2:56] are from Hurricane Harvey correct so we had the D fun everybody got their funds
[3:01] projects then they did the mitigation funds which was like $4.1 billion I
[3:06] remember that they did the mitigation competition that's where everybody went
[3:09] in there and did a competition and then they did the Cog bons they were supposed
[3:13] to have another round of the competition the Glo they since Harris got so upset
[3:19] about the competition because they didn't win their applications were
[3:23] actually handd drawn Ms and they were upset but all of that became kind of
[3:28] political so they put all the comp the second competition funds and everything
[3:32] into the Cog mods the Cog came up with a formula on how to distribute These funds
[3:38] now some of the smaller population e go on the bank their
[3:44] population wasn't high enough to get a direct allocation but what they did is
[3:48] they said well Engle Central de Bay should get this much money and for OD I
[3:52] believe it some some financials or some issues where eligibility issu so they
[3:57] said oh don't you get this money but we're going to we're going to roll it
[4:00] into the county so they did that it was population size or eligibility so they
[4:06] would roll that money into the county the judge said if it was a county that
[4:10] was designated to get the funds the project should be in that area and so
[4:14] he's the one who push these funds out to where they should
[4:19] go so the way it looks like we pick it back in off County right the OD is piggy
[4:24] back it off because we don't
[4:50] [Applause]
[4:56] is [Applause]
[5:11] and the bud is 2 Milli
[5:16] 75,000 that's our
[5:54] no it doesn't come directly to us but our project the that's our project canot
[6:00] exce
[6:12] the what I think Jess's understanding is that these numbers here are going to be
[6:17] split up between others other I guess other
[6:22] entities way
[6:51] con
[7:19] yeah I just want to make sure that okay good okay that I think that was kind of
[7:22] the misunderstanding I think I but we do we are utilizing the funds for the water
[7:27] tower for the city of you look on the application it's the the beneficiaries
[7:33] are here as well good perfect and I think on the water tower I think Maguire
[7:37] had done a study on our I think was it Billy with you Maguire came in there and
[7:42] did a study on the Water Tower yeah so they got some numbers that was several
[7:47] years ago though those are yeah but they know they know the they know the
[7:55] tower that's a I haven't seen it but I've heard it yeah good deal
[8:01] um any other questions just the water tower nothing else uh an engineer an a
[8:07] generator for the uh water system okay specify exactly what this's
[8:13] money for water tower and I can't because if they come
[8:18] in we we put it in there we put preliminary numbers in there but if they
[8:22] come back and they say we can't afford the generator we might not get the gener
[8:26] I want to promise under lier let's keep at the water tower and if we can get the
[8:30] generator we'll get that in there I think at the time I think at the time
[8:34] they ask us to put like just wish a wish list just wish list okay so we have a
[8:38] wish list somewhere that you have Tower we'll the next that's what
[8:45] I'm saying you
[8:50] know and I think we had a a meeting on that right yes it was a city council
[8:55] meeting we all water to I think water to hydrants fire hydrant
[9:00] yeah so okay yeah just want you to make sure that so we're good any other
[9:05] questions so we want to go ahead uh we have a motion um by councilman Falon and
[9:11] second by councilman Candela to go ahead and take action on approving the
[9:15] interlocal agreement between San Patricio County and the City of odm
[9:19] regarding the Community Development block grant mitigation uh we'll move on
[9:24] with a vote Place one yes place two Place three sorry place four yes
[9:30] Place five car motion Carri I I said I said place two and then
[9:37] I looked over there like oh he's not here s motion carries thank you thank
[9:42] you mly thank you Ma I appreciate
[9:51] it but you also you're you're corresponding with s right most of the
[9:55] time oh yeah we go way back actually I figured out hey he hey
[9:59] oy did you work in OAS County I back there when you there with Bill Roberts
[10:05] hey look he's turning
[10:08] red I saw you today
[10:26] at so we're going to move on I think that's going to be pretty good I mean $2
[10:30] million I mean a lot of that's going to go into engineering costs
[10:34] but um but we'll be able to get the water hopefully we with with this money
[10:39] we'll have every the whole water system will be so are they going to be able to
[10:43] do that like maybe like the other day when everything was shut off to
[10:46] engineering something to keep the pressure up and all that's why we want
[10:49] to get this the new pumps in once we get the new pumps and the electrical system
[10:53] in place they'll be able to regulate the pressure so they'll be able to take down
[10:57] the tower and we'll be good the pressure yeah
[11:00] that's going to be good U just just for the record uh mayor um that uh EP epie
[11:05] did review this and uh he was stuck in um Houston today so he couldn't make it
[11:09] out but he did a review of the agreement and say it was good so just fantastic uh
[11:14] Item B discuss consider and take action to set up uh operations and fees to
[11:19] collect tires at the current city collection site do I have a
[11:27] motion I make motion all right motion by councilman Falone
[11:32] the second second by councilman
[11:38] haera um so discussion uh we had a gentleman come out you know this is just
[11:43] another service I mean obviously you guys have probably seen around town
[11:46] there's a lot of tires people have tires on their and and they don't know what to
[11:50] do with them and a lot of times they end up in the ditch somewhere you know
[11:54] especially going towards Beth and um so we had a gentleman come over um they
[11:59] have an operation in Corpus that recycles tires they said that we could
[12:03] set up a site here uh where we could collect the tires and and charge
[12:07] whatever fee you know um and then they would come and pick them up and um and
[12:14] properly dispose of them U so I thought that would be kind of a good service to
[12:19] provide uh for a community just to try to keep it you know clean and have folks
[12:24] instead of going to throw their tires off the side of the road somewhere uh
[12:27] they can come and throw them uh I think that he had said that they charge about
[12:32] $3 S I mean you you talked to him about the numbers
[12:35] so it was um $3 for car and light truck tires okay it's in here it's in yes
[12:41] uhhuh uh and I if you like I continue uh trailer tires $5 small egg and Steer
[12:47] tires $8 I think and I think we had kind of
[12:51] said that we probably would want to not get anything bigger than that just
[12:54] because of you know space um we probably want to buy some sort of storage
[13:00] container to you know to fill it up uh first so water and other things don't
[13:04] get inside of it and then we can uh since we have the trailer we can go drop
[13:08] it off and kind of cut that cost out but we just have to decide what we want to
[13:12] tie on to those costs to kind of you know balance out with uh our our service
[13:18] Manpower and rentals and all that kind of stuff so because we had talked about
[13:22] I mean we don't want to leave them out in the open yeah because you just
[13:26] collect water and then mosquitoes it's an issue so we're talking about maybe
[13:30] getting like a one of those conexes a storage container like a maybe a 10t
[13:35] container and when they came and and dropped off tires the maintenance guys
[13:39] could just stack them in there and when we got you know 80 100 tires we could go
[13:44] and drop them off or they could come and pick them up also so uh we just needed
[13:49] to kind of come up with a price I think s had said like s mentioned that since
[13:54] they charge $3 for light I mean cars and light we could charge $5 per
[14:01] tire um and Then trailer tires what do you say five it's five I
[14:07] mean I went I was at eight or 10 so like eight and then the small egg and what's
[14:14] SK Steer
[14:17] tires those are like um wait like our skid
[14:24] steer smaller tractor tires okay okay so he said $8 so you know maybe 10 MH um I
[14:33] mean I I don't know what you guys think I don't know if you guys have ever I
[14:36] mean I've never taken tires they're usually the where I have the tires we
[14:41] always have programs that come and they do it but there's a good idea because
[14:46] what a Discount Tire show you know like when you go through they give you they
[14:49] put a fee on there yeah like 10 bucks a tire they put a fee on there like $10 a
[14:55] tire yeah I think it's 10 bucks a tire I think
[14:59] yeah so yeah might as well so far and then
[15:06] um see you want to do like you guys think like the trailer
[15:11] tires I mean could you come up like a like one for all like a transer so it's
[15:17] not so difficult I'm saying like one the description of you know well no you you
[15:24] want to separate it you know why because one time we had this program and
[15:29] somebody brought in 18 wheelers that which is the trailer tires yeah a whole
[15:34] bunch of them the semi-trailer yeah the semi so now I agree with Isaac on the
[15:40] others you can do the same but except for the 18 wheelers you're going to
[15:44] distinguish them anyway but they will take advantage
[15:49] truck so 40 fly is 40 fly Billy is a 18 18
[15:55] 18 you're so maybe we we don't want to those just for space I mean how often do
[16:01] you think we'd get those just we probably won't get them very much a lot
[16:05] of those right so we we just a lot of C tires but I will tell you that people
[16:11] are going to take advantage even people that are in County so I don't know if
[16:14] yall gonna open it up to everybody or we can do like we do with brush and bulk we
[16:20] can tack on a outside City you know charge um you know we charge like 15 for
[16:27] brush right but if you live outside inside the city we charge 20 so we can
[16:31] do something like that people will find a way I'm just
[16:36] telling you sure they've always done it yeah well it's better I mean we got to
[16:40] have something it's just another service cuz I don't want people to throw them in
[16:43] the ditch you know tires back here that I haven't disposed of I don't know how
[16:48] to get rid of because I always see them going down bethl you know by the real
[16:52] road tracks people just dump their tires right there on the side and it's like
[16:56] I'm believe that's makes it hard to control mosquitoes when you got so many
[17:00] tires lying around um so do we want to just kind of go with
[17:06] with what's I was saying you know three we can charge $5 for the car and light
[17:11] truck tires $8 for the like semis yeah and then um $10 for the small egg and
[17:19] skid steer tires $10 yeah for in City uh in uh I guess in city limits customers
[17:27] right I would keep in city I mean what's that you don't want to open up a can of
[17:32] worm oh so we don't if so people who live in bethl that's what I'm saying
[17:36] like what's is it customers or more just City Limits what do what do you want to
[17:39] limit just where the water bills bring OD and water bill so water bill I mean
[17:43] old because Beth does service okay so it's only for that's
[17:49] what he was saying if you live out in a county charge a little bit
[17:54] more I mean it's either way I mean I think but you're right it's the same
[17:58] thing gar well they pay a little bit more
[18:01] garbage already but okay so just you want to limit it to just if if you have
[18:06] to have a utility Odum utility bill to access the service if you have a utility
[18:10] bill we just charge them the same price so they can just show them look you know
[18:15] yeah I mean that's the tire we just yeah we just get those
[18:20] tires off you know off the side of the road
[18:26] and with the mosquitoes and stuff yeah exactly actually I think I got three
[18:31] tires in back of my house right now I got to dispose of so
[18:36] U well all Amendment motion is to um just take
[18:44] to no but we got to put the numbers don't we to add the fees to with with
[18:48] the fees that we just came up with a car and light tires five uh trailer tires
[18:54] eight small EG and steer steer what SK GE steer
[18:59] tires with the uh with the Odum city of Odum utility bill and to uh do we need
[19:05] to put the to I guess find like a decently priced conx for storage we have
[19:10] to add that to that just part of the operation yeah that's just we do that
[19:14] okay I don't think it has to be on the motion okay is that good number yeah
[19:19] that's a good enough that's good enough so you got you got the new motion yes
[19:24] okay um and so we have a motion from councilman fun to go ahead
[19:31] and um set up an operation and fees to
[19:37] collect tires at the current city uh odm collection
[19:41] site um with the fees being car and light truck tires $5 trailer tires or
[19:49] semis $8 and small a and skid steer tires
[19:54] $10 uh do I have a second no sir uh second by
[19:59] someone um real quick question may tecq has no problem with this um well as long
[20:06] as long as it's not on the ground that's like your kind of marker as long as it's
[20:10] not on the ground and it's on a rollof or in a storage container that's when
[20:13] they get involved all for anything yeah t tcq doesn't doesn't care because it we
[20:21] we always took tires but people started taking advantage so we stopped okay make
[20:26] sure we stopped because they were bringing tires from
[20:29] the recycler has now that you're charging change yeah we might get a
[20:34] bunch in the beginning and then slow down right just even if somebody were to
[20:39] say I'll pay you x amount just to they're GNA pay anyway so yeah uh the
[20:46] recycler has tcq requirements they have they have to deal with it so how about
[20:51] this tire guy that comes up a I'm going to take 10 Tires over there this tire
[20:54] place over there he's got a bill pays the bill yeah
[21:00] okay I mean once we're full we're we'll have to just kind of take it over to our
[21:04] a vendor make some money right okay all right so we're going to go ahead and
[21:08] vote on the motion Place one yes Place three yes place four Place five motion
[21:14] carries item C discuss Contin to take action to Surplus the following Odum
[21:18] police vehicles uh you have the information um it's part of your packet
[21:29] where did that go this the three um Chargers the white the blue and the
[21:36] black
[21:40] charger I know I had that somewhere it's here it's on your oh it's
[21:47] on the yeah it's on here so it's the white Dodge Charger um and the black
[21:55] Dodge Charger and also the blue you also have pictures of the 3
[21:59] vehicles um we have another agency who's interested in actually purchasing two of
[22:05] those vehicles um the blue and the black
[22:12] charger so we're kind of asking that you know the council allow sou to go ahead
[22:17] and move forward with Surplus in the vehicles and you want mayor I'm sorry
[22:22] yes do I have a motion I'll make a motion that we take action to surpass
[22:26] the following police vehicles the white black and the blue Dodge Charger if I
[22:31] can add if I can uh so I made a mistake on the number
[22:36] three the the blue Dodge Charger the uh and on your current packet I updated it
[22:41] so the uh for the record that blue charger VIN number is 2 C 3C DX bg9 m h
[22:50] 675 422 um that's what the and the titles uh
[22:57] match that description all that good stuff so just an amendment to that um if
[23:01] you can with have a motion by councilman candella do you have a
[23:05] second I'll second good second by cilman Falon uh so we'll move on to discussion
[23:11] I'm sorry uh about that uh so yeah we um I know the Char the black charger is
[23:17] kind of the oldest vehicle I believe um and um but it's it still runs pretty
[23:22] good um we have like I said we have another agency that's interested um the
[23:27] Taft is the police uh they came out and looked
[23:32] um and we had Danny check both vehicles out make sure they they could start
[23:37] because they we had they were again they had died and wer weren't be they
[23:42] wouldn't start so Danny came and checked them out got them running again uh so
[23:47] they had an opportunity to come in and ride them or drive them um they liked
[23:52] them obviously they're even though they're kind of older for us they're
[23:57] they're old they had the vehicle that they have in their fleets are older than
[24:01] these two so uh they were interested in purchasing them so we just want to kind
[24:06] of give s permission to kind of negotiate with them on um to get these
[24:11] cars sold to them any other discussion how many vehicles do we have right now
[24:17] total police um these three the pickup
[24:22] truck that that's in the background behind the white one M um that one K
[24:28] Allen was interested in it K Allen ISD I think we surplused it but um I think
[24:33] there's some issues with their budgeting so they said they were going to have to
[24:36] wait on that um and then the great Tahoe we also have the um the Durango there's
[24:42] a Durango there but it's kind of not really known if it's the PDS cuz it's
[24:47] not decked out yeah it doesn't have lights or nothing on it but the dur cili
[24:52] vehicle kind of one two three four five six Vehicles right now is there is is it
[24:58] legal to do this through procurement or you know like does that go bit for other
[25:03] people too if we're selling just like we did with Cal Allen as long as we Surplus
[25:07] it and sell it directly to uh um a governmental agency uh whether it's a
[25:13] school another city county it it it's transferable just like we did last one
[25:18] it's the same process yeah it just we just can't sell
[25:22] directly to any private organization or private person has to it has to go to
[25:27] right this en is the City of Taft right yeah it's actually the well I think I
[25:31] don't know does Taff ISD have their own Chief and everything I'm not really sure
[25:35] so I think it's their own entity I think their own entity so should we put
[25:41] that in the the motion to well here's the thing with with specifying it is I
[25:46] think if we just Surplus it and something happens in between just like
[25:49] the ram you know if we would have specified the Kalen we might have been
[25:52] stuck just with work you know cuz when we sold the Durango and got everything
[25:58] all squared away there's we're going to hold off on the ram you know uh because
[26:01] we had some budget issues so now we still we Surplus the ram it's there we
[26:05] have all the paperwork ready to go but now we have to wait so if you know we
[26:09] don't want to be stuck just if something if another entity comes and says we'll
[26:12] take it now think just for entity just specify
[26:17] specify on there do do you want it in the motion or you want to well like said
[26:23] somebody say well I wanted to buy that car some somebody well he's got the the
[26:29] laws on it yeah I mean all that was EP you know mean it's the same process okay
[26:35] to Legal yeah they said that yeah it's either going to be yeah yeah yeah it's
[26:41] either going to be a a government type agency okay like ISD a PD or whatever or
[26:47] or has go auction those are your know black and white options for auction yeah
[26:50] what you mean by private uh investigation company or
[26:56] whatever or people that do security oh we've had guys yeah some of some of
[27:00] them like I've had a couple private yeah I've had a couple of
[27:05] cops called who wanted to buy one of the cars because they do
[27:10] construction can't do he said we can't sell them I said now if you I said if we
[27:14] auction it off I I told them I said if we're going to auction them off I'll let
[27:17] you know you can come and bid I said but no we can't sell it to you directly so
[27:21] uh but to another entity another government entity we can yeah so yeah
[27:26] when you say installed equip what what are you talking computers no uh because
[27:31] there's nothing in there but a radio and like the lights and stuff and the
[27:34] control to the lights okay so all the computers are out all
[27:39] The Radars everything yeah there's nothing the only thing that that there
[27:43] going to that'll stay on there would just be the light uh light controllers
[27:47] um sir yeah that's all that's all B the basics remember when you're negotiating
[27:53] you might want to look at a cost of that you know versus
[27:59] also the car by itself right and then also the condition of the vehicle yeah
[28:04] like like the white ones like that that's it's not even I think it's not
[28:08] even worth fixing right it's kind of just no we opened the hood the other day
[28:11] and there was like animals living inside the M yeah so like the the white one's
[28:16] probably going to go to auction with the other vehicles once we get all that kind
[28:19] of settled and then the uh I think they were uh the agency was looking at the
[28:24] black and the blue and then uh like I said this age and mileage and wear and
[28:29] tear on the on the engine and I think Danny had given us some ideas of what we
[28:34] could probably start with the black one he said the black one said we could
[28:37] start around 8,000 for the black one and then uh like 18,000 for the blue one um
[28:45] this a good starting point you they said both of them need tires and both of them
[28:49] will need brakes um according to Danny um and I
[28:54] know the black one for sure needs tires um
[28:58] but that's kind of a starting point know we can just work from there and just
[29:03] like we do with K Allen just they can counter offer or whatever and see what
[29:07] we can settle on so we can get them off our insurance
[29:12] and um we don't have to be worrying about keeping them because we got to
[29:15] send guys over there twice a week to go start them because if not they die every
[29:19] two days Hest to be I mean so the guys are having to go over there they start
[29:22] them they drive them around a little bit then go and park them again sometimes I
[29:26] have to do it too because you know they're bus with the leak or something
[29:28] it's got to get done so you want to do it that with my
[29:34] limo put them on the really don't go out like a week or two oh
[29:42] Wows yeah so so we still have the truck we have uh we have the uh the Durango
[29:48] civilian vehicle we'll call it right and we still have the um the Tahoe Tahoe
[29:53] were pretty much stuck with I mean I know there's a lot of ins and outs
[29:56] because it's it was bought with the with Lo star grant money so we definitely
[29:59] that's our the newest vehicle that we have still so is your plan to get rid of
[30:04] all of our police vehicles no just these here because like they're sitting here
[30:08] and they need work so I mean um like I said we have so that give us that gives
[30:13] us still three available for we need two right now if we yeah because I mean the
[30:18] white one's not even worth fixing that's the oldest one right right uh yes that
[30:23] one and the black one are the two old black was 2019 right and the blue is a
[30:27] 2021 so then after that so then we'll have two good ones yeah we'll have the
[30:31] Durango the Dodge Durango that's in this newer vehicle um but it's not decked out
[30:36] though and then we have then we have the Tahoe which is all decked out I think um
[30:39] yeah three vehicles because even the truck can be utilized oh yeah yes if we
[30:43] don't if we don't sell the truck but we did Surplus it um I'm I'm I'm not sure I
[30:48] I'm pretty sure you can't you can unsur plusus it at some point if you really
[30:51] wanted to we don't have to sell it I mean just cuz we approved it to be
[30:55] Surplus we don't have to we can I mean they didn't buy it you know we can just
[30:59] say well we're going to keep it now it was purchased as a
[31:03] canine vehicle that's why they got the truck so the back seat what they did is
[31:09] they put a deck for the cage but uh I mean it's still
[31:15] good doesn't have that many yeah the why one we would always
[31:21] had problems ever since we bought it oh the electronics for some reason would
[31:26] drain the batteries yeah that's what Danny had said that's why you have to
[31:29] turn it off cuz like the electronics are just they just drain the battery that's
[31:33] happening to the black one right now in one day two days keeps
[31:38] moving we take turns turns he slow down or
[31:46] what okay yeah that's good we take it for a drive and both scared people
[31:50] they're like you got any police
[31:54] force now people get scared as soon as they're coming in they see that Taho
[31:58] there they slow down but then when you get closer you see all the
[32:05] caves person in there I want to buy one put it in so we don't have any other
[32:11] discussion uh there's a motion to uh Surplus the following odm
[32:16] police vehicles which is the um 2018 Dodge Charger 2019 black Dodge Charger
[32:22] and the 2021 blue Dodge Charger candel sorry with the amendment
[32:28] to that uh VIN number I I'll note that in the minutes and um second by
[32:34] councilman Falon if there's any more discussion we'll move with the vote
[32:37] Place one yes Place three yes place four yes Place five yes motion carries we'll
[32:43] move on to the last item here do I have a motion to adjourn
[32:47] I motion by councilman Candela to adjourn
[32:53] second second by councilman wera meeting is adjourned what time is
[33:05] it for
[33:09] you you by 725 Jesse was asking