[0:10] >> Good morning. Welcome to

[0:11] the board of County

[0:12] Commissioners meeting this

[0:12] morning and we're going to

[0:17] started out for prayer.

[0:17] Reverend, the key would you be

[0:19] so good is to give us

[0:19] indication and commissioner

[0:20] good bed? Would you lead to

[0:25] some salute to the flag plays?

[0:27] Thank Bow your heads with me.

[0:30] Father GOD, I love you.

[0:31] >> And what a great and

[0:32] beautiful day you have given

[0:34] us today. And I thank you for

[0:35] for the opportunity to be

[0:36] here. Thank you for for the

[0:38] opportunity to live in this

[0:39] country in this state. And in

[0:42] this county lord and father, I

[0:43] just pray that you preside

[0:44] today that you would rule and

[0:47] reign in this place. Well,

[0:48] that there will be peace in

[0:49] this place and lord, that

[0:50] everything that is said and

[0:51] done Lord by this board by

[0:53] this commission, by this

[0:55] people would be honoring and

[0:57] you we trust you, father, we

[0:58] trust you. We thank you. Had a

[1:02] time. Your money, then we

[1:07] privilege Jesus. Amen.

[1:08] >> Apparently just over United

[1:14] States of America one nation

[1:15] under GOD, indivisible, with

[1:29] liberty and justice for all.

[1:30] >> Okay. MISS We do move along

[1:35] to employee. Recantation. Yes,

[1:36] sir. So if you with a system

[1:45] based course, this is

[1:47] >> great time. Whenever we get

[1:49] to recognize our staff. And I

[1:49] appreciate everyone being here

[1:52] to support our staff, too. So

[1:53] the first we're going to start

[1:56] off. Of course, what we do is

[1:56] in 5 year increments. So any

[1:57] employees that have at least 5

[2:01] years of service, we end going

[2:02] the 5 year increments. We're

[2:05] going to be recognizing today.

[2:06] So for fires, the service,

[2:07] Garrick Collier, if you will

[2:12] come forward, please. Not

[2:13] okay. So we'll move on to

[2:17] Miriam marry him. Turn off.

[2:21] All right, come on up. So

[2:22] Miriam is our administrative

[2:23] assistant in parks and

[2:25] recreation in 2018. She worked

[2:27] as a store manager at Family

[2:29] Dollar Pahokee. She is also a

[2:33] certified nursing assistant.

[2:34] Most importantly, she

[2:35] treasures her role as a loving

[2:37] mother and to her baby Girl.

[2:40] Genesis and a devoted flight.

[2:40] Her husband, Marion,

[2:53] congratulations. Thank you.

[2:54] Next for 5 years we have David

[3:03] Jay Cups. David is our project

[3:04] coordinator and cemetery in

[3:06] parks at it and the facility

[3:08] maintenance department. He's

[3:08] from Okeechobee and is a

[3:10] graduate of Okeechobee High

[3:11] school. He worked for 7 years

[3:15] at Walmart on a technician. He

[3:16] began his career with the

[3:18] county, has a building

[3:20] maintenance technician

[3:21] promoted to project

[3:22] coordinator for facilities,

[3:23] maintenance and is now the

[3:24] project Coordinator for

[3:25] Cemetery in Parks and is doing

[3:28] an excellent job. So he looks

[3:29] forward to serving Okeechobee

[3:30] community for many more years.

[3:45] Thank you. 20 years of

[3:46] service. So we have one

[3:49] employee, Francisco Rodrigues.

[3:53] Sprint says yes. Francisco,

[3:54] it's our road maintenance

[3:56] technician in the road and

[4:00] bridge deficient. He has been

[4:01] in Okeechobee resident for 38

[4:03] years before working for the

[4:05] county. He was an agricultural

[4:07] worker, harvesting tobacco in

[4:09] orange crops. He has been

[4:09] operating tractors for the

[4:11] last 20 years for the road and

[4:12] bridge department and holds a

[4:13] municipal safety services

[4:28] certificate.

[4:29] 25 years of

[4:31] service quarter of a century.

[4:34] We have our chief public

[4:35] safety director put fire Chief

[4:41] Earl Chief grew up in West

[4:42] Palm Beach, Florida, and

[4:43] locate and relocated to

[4:45] Okeechobee when he started the

[4:47] 8th grade, he began his career

[4:50] at the Citi Bike. A Chevy Fire

[4:50] Department is a firefighter

[4:51] emt before joining a good

[4:55] County Fire rescue over the

[4:55] years he has progressed from

[4:56] firefighter emt to public

[4:58] safety director fire chief

[5:01] positions in between chief

[5:02] holds a bachelor's degree in

[5:05] public safety administration

[5:07] and his executive fire officer

[5:09] certified by the National Fire

[5:12] Academy. Fun fact about chief

[5:14] is that he entered the drop

[5:14] program on JANUARY. I don't

[5:15] know that that's so much fun

[5:20] for us ever. But together on

[5:21] JANUARY first and is excited

[5:21] for the next chapter in his

[5:36] life.

[5:43] You know, you can have

[5:57] our commissioners.

[6:48] >> place to store company. Is

[6:50] always a great day. We can

[6:51] recognize employees because

[6:53] they do such a great job in

[6:54] and then co-workers are here

[6:55] to We appreciate that so much.

[6:58] >> So with the move on

[7:00] proclamations, missed it.

[7:02] >> Yes, sir. And the first

[7:04] proclamation is for National

[7:05] Library would weak, which is

[7:09] APRIL 6 through the 12th. And

[7:09] we have our library director

[7:12] here. It's good to see her.

[7:13] And that is crest to Keene.

[7:18] And she has her staff here. So

[7:19] whereas library spark

[7:22] creativity, fuel imagination,

[7:23] inspire, lifelong learning,

[7:24] offering a space for

[7:24] individual of all ages can

[7:28] explore new ideas and be drawn

[7:29] to the new possibilities and

[7:31] serve as vibrant community

[7:33] hub, connecting people with

[7:33] knowledge, technology and

[7:37] resources. Why fostering civic

[7:37] engagement, critical thinking

[7:41] and lifelong learning

[7:42] libraries provide free and

[7:44] equitable access to books,

[7:46] digital tools and innovative

[7:46] programming ensuring that all

[7:48] individuals regardless of

[7:49] background have the support

[7:51] they need to learn, connect

[7:54] and thrive. Libraries, partner

[7:55] with schools, businesses and

[7:56] organizations connecting the

[7:59] dots to maximize resources,

[8:00] increase efficiency and expand

[8:04] access to essential services,

[8:05] strengthening the entire

[8:07] community and empower job

[8:08] seekers. Entrepreneuers and

[8:09] life all learners by providing

[8:12] access to resources, training

[8:14] and opportunities that support

[8:16] career goes growth and

[8:18] economic success. Libraries,

[8:20] nurture young minds through

[8:22] story time steam programs and

[8:24] literacy initiatives fostering

[8:24] curiosity and a love of

[8:28] learning that last a lifetime

[8:29] and libraries protect the

[8:31] right to re think and explore

[8:34] without censorship standing as

[8:35] companions of intellectual

[8:37] champions. Excuse me of

[8:38] intellectual freedom and free

[8:42] expression. Whereas dedicated

[8:44] librarians and library workers

[8:45] provide welcoming spaces that

[8:46] inspire discovery

[8:48] collaboration and creativity

[8:50] for all and libraries.

[8:52] Librarians and library workers

[8:53] across the country are joining

[8:55] together to celebrate National

[8:56] Library Week and are the thing

[8:59] drone to the library now,

[9:00] therefore, be it proclaimed by

[9:01] Shelby County Board of County

[9:02] commissioners that they here

[9:03] by recognize and celebrate

[9:06] National Library week and

[9:07] encourage all residents to

[9:08] visit their library, explore

[9:09] its resources and celebrate

[9:11] all the ways that the library

[9:12] draws us together as a

[9:15] community.

[9:15] >> Can I get a motion to

[9:16] accept the proclamation is

[9:20] present. So Jen have a motion

[9:21] commissioner summer second

[9:23] back. Commissioner Carlo all

[9:25] in favor say Aye. Aye. All

[9:26] opposed nay motion carries

[9:27] unanimously. Okay.

[9:35] Commissioner, good bread.

[9:41] Microphone of the.

[9:41] >> Trying to use more rodeo

[9:49] announcer voice. I've been on

[9:49] the part library board for 9

[9:51] years with question to you,

[9:53] sir. She's always first won

[9:54] their last win, believe she's

[9:56] always at the library doing

[9:58] our She definitely deserves or

[9:59] the library does, but she

[9:59] deserves to be the recipient

[10:05] of its.

[10:06] >> And I just wanted to say

[10:09] thank This is for our staff.

[10:11] Our volunteers, our friends of

[10:13] the library board and our

[10:15] commissioners because the

[10:16] library is the one place that

[10:20] you can still go to for free.

[10:22] And you can do yoga in the

[10:22] library. You can do your taxes

[10:24] in the library. We have air

[10:27] conditioning in Wi-Fi that

[10:28] works. There's so many things

[10:30] you can do in the library and

[10:30] it is all because of the

[10:33] support of the community, the

[10:34] support of our commissioners

[10:36] that has been unwavering and

[10:37] the support of our staff and

[10:52] volunteers. So thank you.

[11:06] >> MR. This next think we have

[11:08] to recipients be issue.

[11:11] >> We have Toby can noodle.

[11:18] And a man to right now. Sorry.

[11:20] And this proclamation for

[11:21] national Chai child Abuse

[11:22] Prevention Month, which is

[11:25] APRIL 2025. Going to come

[11:25] where you want to come on up

[11:29] there. Yeah. Whereas strong

[11:30] families Cray, strong

[11:31] communities and strong

[11:35] futures. Children are our most

[11:37] valuable resource and will

[11:38] shape the future of Okeechobee

[11:38] County success, prosperity and

[11:40] quality of life. And the

[11:43] federal fiscal year 2024

[11:47] showed 3.1 million reports to

[11:47] child Protective Services

[11:50] providing child abuse ended.

[11:51] Neglect is a serious problem

[11:54] affecting every segment of our

[11:55] community and finding

[11:56] solutions requires input and

[12:00] action from everyone child

[12:02] abuse can have long-term

[12:03] psychological, emotional and

[12:03] physical effects that have

[12:06] lasting consequences. Ends

[12:09] consequences for victims abuse

[12:12] and helping people succeed and

[12:12] hide. This gets children

[12:13] center have been providing

[12:15] services to the community for

[12:16] decades through their

[12:17] diversified, effective

[12:18] program, services and

[12:20] initiatives. Hundreds of the

[12:22] most phoner go local children,

[12:23] families and adults have been

[12:25] able to transform their lives

[12:26] through education, counseling,

[12:29] training and employment and

[12:29] effective child abuse

[12:33] prevention activities. 6 e

[12:33] because of the partnerships

[12:36] created between child welfare

[12:38] professionals, education,

[12:40] health community and

[12:41] faith-based organizations,

[12:42] businesses, law enforcement

[12:44] agencies and families. And

[12:45] whereas communities must make

[12:47] every effort to promote

[12:48] programs and activities that

[12:49] create strong and thriving

[12:51] children and families in order

[12:53] to promote the social and

[12:53] emotional well-being of

[12:54] children and families in a

[12:57] safe, stable and nurturing

[12:58] environment. This prevention

[13:00] remains the best defense for

[13:02] our children and families now,

[13:03] therefore, be it proclaimed by

[13:05] Okeechobee County Board of

[13:06] County commissioners that they

[13:06] hereby designate the month of

[13:09] APRIL 2025. As Child Abuse

[13:09] Prevention Month and Cherokee

[13:13] County. Going to get a motion

[13:14] to accept the proclamation to

[13:18] move it. So Motion by

[13:18] Commissioner Good bridge

[13:19] second by Commissioner Burrows

[13:21] all in favor say Aye.

[13:23] >> All opposed. Say nay.

[13:27] Motion carries unanimously.

[13:27] Commissioner Karla.

[13:28] >> So we have to proclamations

[13:33] today. We have 1, 4, Toby be

[13:34] that's going represent helping

[13:38] people succeed. And one for

[13:42] Amanda Riedel. Biscuits center

[13:43] and I I wrote this down a

[13:46] little while ago. The this

[13:50] child Abuse Prevention month.

[13:52] The hype. This cause houses

[13:57] celebrating there 40th year

[13:58] 1985. They started. There are

[14:03] 501, c. They are provided

[14:03] 450,000 safe Night for

[14:06] Children and teens. That's

[14:07] pretty amazing. We want to

[14:08] thank you for all you guys.

[14:10] What you do. And for our

[14:11] community. Thank you very

[14:25] much.

[14:38] >> We're going move on to

[14:38] public comment and for us to

[14:42] have rigged the Mitten. MISTER

[14:57] B.

[15:12] Good morning morning.

[15:12] >> And I could stand here all

[15:17] day. And say how disappointed

[15:19] I am. And the sheriff's

[15:23] department. But that only have

[15:27] 3 minutes. There is an

[15:30] innocent woman stand all. Jury

[15:35] trial. That took up for

[15:37] herself is to use it

[15:41] >> MISTER B. Have to stuff.

[15:43] Can only talk about something.

[15:44] It comes before us. If you

[15:45] have a complaint with that,

[15:46] you might want to get to the

[15:48] governor's office. Okay.

[15:52] >> Okay. I can do that.

[15:57] >> I was pulled over about. Or

[16:01] 5 years ago.

[16:03] >> By the sheriff's Department

[16:04] Mishra be again, we have no

[16:05] jurisdiction over that. Please

[16:06] keep it a step that we have

[16:09] jurisdiction over. Okay. What

[16:10] do you have jurisdiction of

[16:11] the roads, the bridges, the

[16:15] library, the playgrounds.

[16:16] Senior services saying or

[16:18] services that type of things

[16:19] we do it they If you have such

[16:20] a situation and would love to

[16:24] hear from you.

[16:27] >> The roads is Tara, thank

[16:28] you. I just hit a pothole and

[16:33] it cost me $400. Okay. Okay. I

[16:34] guess I have nothing else to

[16:40] save him. Thank you. They

[16:50] wrote. In very roads.

[16:51] >> I guess this would be a

[16:55] senior same senior issue. No

[17:00] stay even. Put a hit out on

[17:03] me. The contract on my life,

[17:04] MR. Rhodes, we have no news or

[17:05] hastily. You not that. You

[17:05] know, you have a budget that

[17:08] runs the show.

[17:09] >> Played have utilized have

[17:12] jurisdiction over everything.

[17:15] Is your second represent time

[17:16] yet tell you right now they

[17:17] have been really have a hit on

[17:19] me. I want something done to

[17:20] call the Department of Justice

[17:22] Civil Rights Division cut

[17:37] right place at the

[18:05] Second

[18:18] time. Take him out to.

[19:05] Give them just a minute to

[19:05] regroup and get law

[19:20] enforcement back inside.

[20:04] We'll

[20:07] move on. Somebody by the name

[20:28] hit be. Ok, Mike Taylor. Want

[20:31] to take my hat off and

[20:32] >> I'm only going to talk

[20:33] about things that have

[20:33] happened in this council

[20:37] chambers. So I'm guessing that

[20:38] is under the purview of the

[20:42] council. Just want to make

[20:43] sure I don't get kicked out

[20:46] for something I didn't do. But

[20:47] anyway, I'm honest. I wrote

[20:52] something. In a minute. I'm

[20:57] doing this nicest way. I can.

[20:59] Little commissioners don't say

[21:01] a word. I might say something

[21:04] that you already heard and

[21:07] it's something I say might

[21:08] make you I brought a little

[21:10] being e.

[21:13] >> Here's your being keys. To

[21:16] make you glad. All even right

[21:17] here. If you want to come get

[21:22] them. What I'm noticing here

[21:27] is that. Free speech. Like

[21:29] literally free speech is. Is

[21:34] something that. People can't.

[21:38] Grass. You know, for 3

[21:42] minutes. Just let us speak.

[21:43] You know, this woman back here

[21:43] wanted to speak about

[21:44] something that she's been

[21:47] going through. And you shut

[21:50] her down. Completely shut her

[21:57] down. I'm trying to be really

[21:57] nice and I'm not seeing

[22:01] anything.

[22:02] >> Nor you remember the other

[22:10] times that I've come here. I

[22:11] am truly.

[22:12] >> I just I think this is the

[22:14] most disgusting thing that

[22:16] ever seen. And for whatever

[22:17] attorney.

[22:19] >> Whether or not on the list

[22:19] anymore, if that's not

[22:21] something we have control of

[22:22] the U.S. You do have this

[22:23] second warning. I gave you one

[22:27] the bat. You go through. I do

[22:28] you can leave or what have you

[22:33] taken out? Except to you.

[22:35] Cohen versus Jolla allows me

[22:36] say came out scout a boater

[22:37] place. Taliban tone versus

[22:39] California allows me to say

[22:40] this doesn't like a phone

[22:44] place. Take him out. Take him

[22:47] out of the building place for

[22:53] the to a lot.

[23:09] >> Okay. We have Scott Morrow.

[23:09] >> That's look at and that

[23:13] wasn't on purpose. I'm trying

[23:15] do. But before I get that, I

[23:15] want to thank the community to

[23:19] come out. Coming up, support

[23:20] Those that served in this

[23:22] community. Appreciate I'm so

[23:25] emotional right now. It's like

[23:32] I just see my My grandfather.

[23:32] >> try to address their

[23:37] grievances with came out. Just

[23:40] want hurt to noticed. Hurt. I

[23:46] don't care if this

[23:50] >> all oath.

[23:51] >> The person a person best

[23:53] possible.

[23:54] >> For coming to this county

[24:00] Okeechobee. And feeding. Just

[24:01] to be laced with the Eagles

[24:03] should be addressed. It.

[24:06] Because inflated isn't Of drew

[24:10] him out. Also better yet.

[24:12] Thanks. Drama. Read that.

[24:15] >> For teaching me how to

[24:30] helps the aspirants. The best

[24:33] >> Would escort him out of the

[24:37] building? Plays disrupt play

[24:37] space. Take him out. I don't

[24:38] that in our and make me

[24:42] believe that. Please take him

[24:44] out.

[25:04] Anyone else for public

[25:16] comment.

[25:18] >> I you just don't get it

[25:20] rather I mean, I've told you

[25:21] you're the worst tyrant. Every

[25:24] time this has nothing to come.

[25:25] You're out of order talk about

[25:27] something we don't do. Arkush.

[25:28] One of the 2 were talking

[25:30] about this chamber and your

[25:32] attitude and the way you treat

[25:34] the public is what I want talk

[25:34] about. This is on home.

[25:42] Please. You're through. You

[25:47] later. Later.

[25:54] >> yourself day.

[25:58] >> Inman else. Public comment.

[25:59] A full clothes that I didn't.

[26:05] I don't want to.

[26:05] >> MISTER CHAIRMAN, my name

[26:08] Sean Barie. This is a public

[26:13] meeting. Ok? I'm trying to go

[26:14] through this right here

[26:14] without breaking your rows and

[26:15] rows of the courtroom. I want

[26:19] the descent. But I want you to

[26:20] tell me what I can and can't

[26:26] say MR. CHAIRMAN. Go through

[26:27] this a limited time here and

[26:29] see if that if come across

[26:30] something I'm not allowed to

[26:31] say in this public meeting

[26:34] dissent and you can just tell

[26:36] okay, because I like to set

[26:37] the way have constitution

[26:39] about it. I'm here lawfully.

[26:43] MR. CHAIRMAN. I'm exercising

[26:47] my rights under the first 14th

[26:50] amendments as well as article

[26:50] one Section 4, 9, 24 the

[26:54] Florida Constitution. Could

[26:58] going okay. Okay. Any attempt

[27:01] to remove me for the content

[27:05] of my speech is

[27:06] unconstitutional. Retaliatory

[27:07] and we'll be conduct dominated

[27:08] as you're not going to tell us

[27:10] what we can and can't do.

[27:11] >> I'm putting on notice. If

[27:12] you want to talk about

[27:14] something, we have

[27:15] jurisdiction over your well,

[27:15] certainly have your I'm doing

[27:16] things that the microphone,

[27:20] please. Your second time.

[27:21] You're at a border state. You

[27:27] thank out, please. Has very

[27:34] nice of you. Anyone else for

[27:41] public comment. When Michael

[27:44] Foale? It would pull the

[27:45] microphone down. We can

[27:47] replace. Thank you, Bernie.

[27:48] >> I just want to come and

[27:52] speak. About Douglas Park

[27:55] about could absolutely I would

[27:57] like to say that. Is it a

[28:00] MISS? Okay. We need to clean

[28:05] up on the roads. People

[28:06] couldn't trees and put in a

[28:07] better role Casey when you're

[28:07] coming down the road. It's a

[28:13] mess. I want also address.

[28:18] Drugs. That 3 months ago from

[28:21] drugs. You all know what? Over

[28:25] in the quarters. I think it

[28:26] stand for something to be

[28:30] done. And just acts in for

[28:33] some help. Just a good grade

[28:38] is out at a commission right?

[28:40] >> Yes, yes, yes, ma'am. No

[28:41] But yesterday we were all.

[28:42] Yes, we're all listening.

[28:44] Yeah, but I would like talk

[28:47] with you some time and shirt.

[28:47] >> Taking over some things

[28:50] that's going on. We really

[28:52] need to a bad about that. And

[28:53] if you have to ship things

[28:56] down. To get clean up, you

[28:58] just have to to death. I will

[29:02] talk with you. You know me. I

[29:06] know MISTER Delhaize I live

[29:06] with ms Ley on the hope for

[29:10] years. And it's a thing to see

[29:15] all of But all on this great.

[29:15] We're losing a whole

[29:18] generation of young people. De

[29:20] sacs. That to help me, we have

[29:24] a community made up committee.

[29:24] We're trying to do things to

[29:27] help the young people. You

[29:28] know what like doing the

[29:31] things trying to help them.

[29:32] This going off to college.

[29:33] We're trying to give them some

[29:33] money to leave with it. We're

[29:37] trying to get light. At

[29:38] Friday's this stuff. So they

[29:39] would have said when they go

[29:39] off to college. So everybody

[29:42] in the court isn't that I

[29:45] would like to see a cleanup.

[29:46] His house is that got don't

[29:49] ever will. It's not. I can

[29:51] explain it all. But I would

[29:55] like to. Todd Whitman County

[29:57] commissions. About cleaning it

[30:00] up. Thank

[30:01] >> Thank you for so much for

[30:03] coming in being so civil about

[30:04] your complaint says the cut.

[30:05] That's the kind of things that

[30:07] we take. It takes seriously

[30:09] and we will work it. And and

[30:11] the clerk would be more than

[30:12] happy to give you MR.

[30:13] Goodman's number in and the

[30:14] rest of us. You commissioners

[30:14] also so that thank you so

[30:16] much. Any further public

[30:21] comment. Motion to close

[30:24] public comment. Motion by

[30:25] Commissioner Burrows second by

[30:26] commissioner, good bread all

[30:26] in favor say Aye. Aye. All

[30:27] opposed. Nay motion carries

[30:31] unanimously. Again. I want to

[30:33] apologize to the people that

[30:34] we have less people coming

[30:35] into our community and using

[30:36] this kind of language. It is

[30:39] is one of the people that was

[30:45] he a few minutes ago in very

[30:46] did a good of recognizing what

[30:51] tribe they come from. So they

[30:53] don't have any respect for any

[30:54] any of our female out. Isn't

[30:56] apologize to you. So it time

[30:58] we will move on. You might

[31:02] want to wait. Wait just a few

[31:03] minutes before you exit your

[31:04] way. Welcome to do so. But you

[31:05] might want to wait to make

[31:07] sure that everything's cleared

[31:08] out there. They have a

[31:08] reputation, out on the

[31:12] sidewalk and carrying on air

[31:12] and I'd hate for anybody to

[31:19] get cold up in that. Okay.

[31:19] MISS Them. We don't go ahead

[31:21] with the consent agenda.

[31:22] >> Yes, sir. And I have no

[31:23] revisions to the agenda as

[31:26] well.

[31:33] >> Motion to accept agenda. We

[31:35] have motion by commissioner

[31:36] second that commissioners

[31:37] Sumner to accept consent of

[31:39] judge ended with no changes

[31:40] favor, say Aye. Aye. All

[31:43] opposed. Nay motion carries

[31:43] unanimously. Okay. Misstep.

[31:44] Thank you for Guidance on the

[31:48] consent agenda for.

[31:50] >> Item 5, 1, is the minutes

[31:51] from our MARCH 20th regular

[31:55] board meeting. Item b is

[31:58] warrants in the amount of

[31:59] 1 million, 412,350 dollars and

[32:03] $0.83. Item c free. No one of

[32:05] 5 for the independent

[32:06] contractor agreement with

[32:07] advanced data Processing

[32:08] incorporated for ambulance

[32:15] billing. Item d is emergency

[32:16] home assistance program.

[32:19] Standard Agreement to with the

[32:21] area aging area Agency on

[32:25] Aging in the Mount. A $35,696,

[32:26] which is an increase of

[32:33] $10,000 from budget. At 25,696

[32:34] for the contract term a JULY

[32:36] first 2024 through JUNE, 30th

[32:40] 2025. And to adopt Resolution

[32:41] resolution. 25 dash 14

[32:42] amending the fiscal year. 25

[32:45] budget and approved budget

[32:46] amendment. 25 19 in the amount

[32:51] of $10,000. Item e is the

[32:52] First Amendment and our local

[32:54] agreement between the medical

[32:55] examiner of the 19 circuit

[32:57] court for the design

[32:58] permitting and construction

[33:00] phase of a new medical

[33:02] examiner facility to be

[33:03] located on the campus of

[33:04] Indian River State College in

[33:07] Fort Pierce. And we with that

[33:08] wind. Of course, we're one of

[33:11] 4 counties that support the

[33:16] medical examiner's office.

[33:18] Item f request for lane

[33:19] reduction and release a plane

[33:23] for Sarah from $22,725 to

[33:27] $3,665. And $0.87 provided.

[33:28] The amount is paid by 05:00pm

[33:31] on Monday. MAY 12th or will

[33:33] will revert back to the

[33:35] original amount item chief

[33:36] request for Lane reduction

[33:38] release of Lien Excel home

[33:44] Festers l l c. That is

[33:48] reduction from 35,000 to

[33:50] $3,731.54. Per again provided

[33:52] that the amount is paid by

[33:52] 05:00pm Monday. MAY 12th are

[33:53] referred us back to the

[33:56] original amount. Item h

[33:57] request for to schedule a

[33:59] public hearing for that option

[34:00] of an ordinance authorizing

[34:03] trespass from county

[34:04] facilities and authorizing

[34:07] that hearing on APRIL 24th

[34:16] 2025 for the adoption or at

[34:16] least consideration of the

[34:17] ordinance. For authorizing

[34:17] trespass from county

[34:17] facilities. And we have

[34:21] another. Scheduling item. I

[34:22] scheduling of a public hearing

[34:24] on 4/24/2025. For the

[34:27] amendment of Okeechobee County

[34:29] Code of Ordinances. Part one

[34:30] chapter 2 article one division

[34:31] to rules of decorum and

[34:33] civility. And that's the

[34:33] agenda. The consent agenda

[34:36] item, sir. Any commissioners

[34:37] have any question about

[34:39] Nicksin agenda.

[34:40] >> Motion to accept consent

[34:42] agenda as presented second, we

[34:46] have a motion by commissioner.

[34:47] Barros seconded by

[34:48] Commissioner Good Bread

[34:50] commissioner to Carlo. You

[34:51] probably want stay on this 1,

[34:52] 9, year for the record he will

[34:53] make standing and you can do

[34:54] the paperwork if you would,

[34:57] please. All in favor say Aye.

[34:59] Aye. All opposed. Nay motion

[35:00] carries unanimously with

[35:03] commissioner the caller

[35:04] standing.

[35:05] >> And searches for

[35:07] clarification. I believe he's

[35:13] just up staying on item. Phi

[35:23] Xi. See a week it's 5 f o k.

[35:24] Should we pull that one out

[35:28] and vote on a separate?

[35:28] >> Yes, that would would be

[35:33] the recommended dose action.

[35:33] So

[35:36] >> the amendment on the motion

[35:37] would be 4 to approve consent

[35:43] agenda items. Except for f.

[35:43] And will move Affleck. We've

[35:45] already we've already.

[35:47] >> We have voted to We didn't

[35:50] vote at if we get and we did,

[35:51] ok, we've got to go back and

[35:53] retract the motion and you've

[35:54] got to go back somebody on the

[35:55] prevailing side. But you make

[35:57] a motion to.

[35:58] >> Make the motion retract

[36:01] original motion. Second. We

[36:03] have a motion and second.

[36:08] Oliver say Aye, ok, let's

[36:08] start from scratch. Yes to the

[36:09] which identity gender with the

[36:14] exception of which item f

[36:15] believe, that correct? Mostly

[36:20] what it is. Yes, there we Yes,

[36:23] that's right. Motion to accept

[36:23] the consent agenda with the

[36:25] exception of item sect.

[36:27] >> We motion by Commissioner

[36:29] pro second by Commissioner.

[36:30] Good bread. In favor say Aye.

[36:32] Aye. All opposed. Nay motion

[36:33] carries unanimously.

[36:34] >> Okay. Let's do one with

[36:38] Item f with commissioner the

[36:39] caller standing place. If if I

[36:41] MAY, if you could just tell if

[36:41] you could just a clear

[36:44] conflict. Commissioner Karla.

[36:45] My daughter, very good. Thank

[36:49] you. Okay. Motion to approve

[36:55] for the consent agenda We have

[36:56] a motion by Commissioner

[36:58] Burrows second by Commissioner

[36:59] Sumner with in this one,

[37:00] commissioner color would be

[37:02] abstaining on all in favor,

[37:03] say aye. Aye nay motion

[37:04] carries unanimously with

[37:06] stanchion said, ok? Reverend

[37:11] Hannah. It's so nice to see if

[37:16] in the face.

[37:16] >> I'm here to request that we

[37:18] be able to hold a national day

[37:19] of prayer on the first

[37:21] Thursday in MAY, as is our

[37:22] tradition and on the

[37:25] courthouse lawn. I think that

[37:27] is before you.

[37:34] >> I think we need it. What's

[37:35] the pleasure of the board? A

[37:36] move But we do this every year

[37:37] is a great event that show

[37:40] proud to be part of it. So we

[37:41] have a motion by Commissioner

[37:42] good bread. Second by

[37:43] Commissioner Burrows all in

[37:44] favor say Aye. Aye. All

[37:45] opposed. Nay motion carries

[37:47] unanimously. Thank you. Thank

[37:48] you. Appreciate what you do

[37:50] for us. Can we take a short

[37:53] break in this? Make sure that.

[37:54] Get everybody to their

[37:59] >> He joined the group. Okay.

[37:59] We'll call the meeting back.

[38:03] Daughter. Okay. We're going to

[38:07] do discussion about the

[38:08] authorizing trespassed from

[38:09] county facilities in this

[38:10] attorney ago. You're going to

[38:11] take this one. Thank you so

[38:15] much. MISTER Chair.

[38:18] >> This with respect to our

[38:19] discussion for the last over

[38:22] the last 2 meetings about the

[38:26] trust pass ordinance. So

[38:27] basically what provided here

[38:30] is a memorandum just

[38:31] discussing the remedies

[38:32] available the options

[38:36] available to the county. So in

[38:37] general trespass warnings are

[38:38] lawful. They're allowed under

[38:39] state law to protect and

[38:40] respond to a threat public

[38:42] safety and protect the public

[38:45] welfare. However, when we

[38:47] issue a trespass warning for a

[38:47] public facility, we do have to

[38:48] have safeguards in place to

[38:49] ensure their due process

[38:51] rights afforded by the

[38:57] Constitution. So we we have

[38:57] some ordinances in place. We

[38:59] have a public camping

[38:59] ordinance. We have the parks

[39:01] and recreation ordinance for

[39:04] their facilities. But

[39:04] effectively the goal is to

[39:06] create this ordinance for all

[39:10] public facilities. And the key

[39:14] is to ensure that there's an

[39:16] appeal process. So if someone

[39:17] is trespassed that they have

[39:21] the opportunity to appeal. And

[39:24] so in keeping with that, we've

[39:28] provided the Palm Coast City

[39:29] code which is strong ordinance

[39:32] that has not been challenge.

[39:34] And so it's our provision.

[39:35] It's our recommendation that

[39:37] we adopt a similar ordinance.

[39:39] But certainly we want have

[39:40] discussion last meeting

[39:40] year-old directed that we

[39:43] would have it for up to 2

[39:43] years, which is in alignment

[39:45] with their ordinance. I have a

[39:48] question for you that can we

[39:48] make an open-ended know

[39:51] sunset.

[39:52] >> I think that they should

[39:53] have to come back in and pier

[39:58] and ask for forgiveness. And

[40:00] never do this kind of thinking

[40:01] because if you don't just

[40:01] sooner said with a dig on his

[40:02] computer going, come right

[40:03] back. So is it legal to have

[40:08] one? But no sunset.

[40:08] >> We

[40:09] >> would have to provide an

[40:11] additional process for.

[40:13] >> a petition to remove.

[40:19] >> The trespass warning.

[40:19] Reason why we provide that

[40:24] sunset is. Number one. The

[40:27] protection of due process. And

[40:32] so that we're not

[40:33] overburdening staffed by

[40:33] creating these dual process is

[40:37] number one for the required

[40:41] process appeal. Which we do

[40:46] have to require under the in

[40:47] order to protect the due

[40:49] process rights. And by

[40:53] providing the sunset. Gives us

[40:57] a nice clean automatic and as

[40:57] opposed to creating an

[41:00] additional process where? MAY

[41:04] have a person come back every

[41:05] 30 days for 2 years. So how

[41:10] long can we make it lately? So

[41:13] what we found in a survey

[41:15] generally is that the 2 years

[41:19] seems to be a good cap. As far

[41:20] as the trespass from public

[41:24] facilities you know, the

[41:26] there, some jurisdictions that

[41:27] go longer. There are some that

[41:31] go shorter. Only there is no

[41:34] bright line. I think that 2

[41:38] years is the is in line with

[41:39] what we see other

[41:40] jurisdictions doing that. Some

[41:45] go longer. I. In a survey we

[41:46] found Wonder Section that was

[41:51] up to 5 years. I. You I'm not

[41:54] sure that that is. A best

[41:55] practice considering that most

[42:00] are at too. But, you know,

[42:01] again, it's up to the

[42:03] direction of the board.

[42:03] Commissioner.

[42:07] >> I think from taking a look

[42:08] at the city of Palm Coast

[42:10] trespass. I think 2 things are

[42:10] made. Untreated, interesting

[42:12] comment was number one, it

[42:16] hasn't been challenged. It is

[42:18] pre detailed relative to even

[42:22] the process for go back go

[42:22] into court and for the

[42:24] appellate court. Take a look

[42:28] at. So I think you and I was

[42:29] there with with the CHAIRMAN's

[42:29] coming from on this because,

[42:30] you know, personally, I'm the

[42:32] one it talked about getting

[42:34] this done because I'm tired of

[42:37] listening to this. This in our

[42:38] courtroom or in commission

[42:40] chambers. So I 2 years is a

[42:44] good, good model for one

[42:45] reason because I don't want

[42:47] him to be able to challenge

[42:48] the process if this hasn't

[42:52] been challenged as of this

[42:53] date, then list due process in

[42:55] accordance with what Palm

[42:55] Coast done. And I believe

[42:58] that. Puts us in a safe zone.

[43:01] And MISTER Chair. On that same

[43:06] note. If the 2 years runs out

[43:08] and they were to pull the same

[43:08] person, pulled the same thing

[43:09] in, you can simply for an

[43:12] additional 2 years. Correct?

[43:12] >> Yes, that's correct. So

[43:16] that answers at This McKee did

[43:17] one time one time. And that's

[43:19] 2 years. I stand on my hands.

[43:25] One time. Every 2 years. It's

[43:26] base in CHAIRMAN Is that he he

[43:27] can come in here shoot a bird

[43:28] you one time. And then we have

[43:36] another 2 years. You think

[43:37] they would do I don't know.

[43:39] I'm just being I'm being

[43:40] facetious, but the time. But

[43:43] really me but to his point,

[43:44] okay, that's exactly what

[43:45] would happen. So he went on

[43:48] make he or she would

[43:49] automatically good. Another 2

[43:50] years but settled for 3. If

[43:53] you could get that. We've got

[43:54] all this PRESIDENT That

[43:57] doesn't get messed with. So if

[43:58] it ain't broke, don't Nord

[44:02] Norge as 5. Well, but not best

[44:04] practices. Will Smith differs

[44:05] is what I'm recommending. So

[44:06] why not go with 3 of 5?

[44:07] Doesn't get challenged.

[44:08] >> You should be good. This

[44:13] re. We can. If that's the will

[44:17] of the board, you're going to

[44:18] get 4 and you're just gonna

[44:20] have to take a bird. You're

[44:22] going to get 4.

[44:28] >> And then 6 and question

[44:29] >> that's just put us off any

[44:30] longer. We have to change

[44:34] anything now.

[44:36] >> No, I mean, this would not

[44:37] be change. This would be a

[44:38] change in the way that I've

[44:39] drafted the ordinance, but not

[44:43] in a way that the ordinance

[44:44] title has been drafted. So i

[44:45] mean, that would be something

[44:50] that we could. Address between

[44:50] now and that the date of the

[44:57] hearing. I thank you.

[44:59] >> Is the will of the board to

[45:04] keep it to or to admit it.

[45:05] Appreciate because you're the

[45:06] one taken most of this. And

[45:09] we've set up here and

[45:09] >> rest of us just sitting

[45:10] watching are the ones taken.

[45:12] So I appreciate we want to

[45:14] come from, but I think good

[45:14] you. We if we go on here,

[45:16] that's going to be hasn't

[45:19] challenge. Let's go with that.

[45:21] And and I was being facetious.

[45:22] But you'd be taking over. But

[45:24] the fact remains that become a

[45:25] one time and say something

[45:26] negative in its would just

[45:28] implement it again. We're done

[45:30] with it. So you get an

[45:31] automatic for years. You just

[45:34] have to take a little. Little

[45:39] bump. Okay. Okay. Make the

[45:40] motion to move forward. She

[45:42] didn't I'm sorry. Are you just

[45:46] got started? Okay. I'm sure up

[45:48] no. It's no, no. You can make

[45:49] the motion. We understand the

[45:50] directions. So what we're

[45:51] going to bring this back to

[45:52] the next meeting.

[45:53] >> But we just wanted to make

[45:54] sure that you all were okay

[45:55] with model because this is

[45:59] what will be following. You

[46:01] got any about the appeal and I

[46:01] were better. Are you

[46:02] comfortable with it? You know,

[46:04] this is a

[46:05] >> when you work to for

[46:05] somebody has your company a

[46:11] comfortable all of this?

[46:13] >> Are you all right? We are.

[46:14] We cross this appeal process

[46:17] is very clean. I mean, part of

[46:19] the reason I think this is a

[46:20] good ordinance is it is very

[46:20] clear. You know, it says it

[46:22] has to be filed in writing

[46:25] within 10 days. And then, you

[46:26] know, if it does, it's going

[46:27] to be the special magistrate

[46:29] show. It gives the special

[46:30] magistrate also guidance as

[46:32] well that this will be by him.

[46:34] So I think it I think

[46:36] appellate process is very good

[46:36] in this ordinance depart. I

[46:37] don't like about the payment

[46:38] process is if they don't show

[46:39] up, you still have to go

[46:42] through all the motions. So if

[46:44] you don't show up for small

[46:46] claims court judge rules in my

[46:47] favor. So why would you go

[46:47] through all this process if

[46:55] they don't show up? They did

[46:57] written down down ways that

[46:58] were never 12 where it is down

[47:01] about have how iffy on appeal.

[47:02] >> If they don't show up, the

[47:02] county still has to go through

[47:04] and present your case, right?

[47:08] So if if they fail to attend

[47:09] the magistrate reviews, the

[47:10] evidence presented and

[47:10] determines if it was properly

[47:11] issued or not.

[47:15] >> So if they can't come the

[47:16] special magistrate still has

[47:17] the evidence, which is the

[47:18] video of the meeting right?

[47:20] Even if they don't come to

[47:23] speak why? Why do we get to If

[47:27] you don't show up in court,

[47:28] the judge does. It doesn't

[47:29] make them present the case.

[47:30] Said nobody's hear you. You

[47:33] win. So why would we would we

[47:34] have to county have to go.

[47:38] Know that. Why would a special

[47:39] measures said, you know, you

[47:47] know, it's over. I understand.

[47:51] I don't think that it's.

[47:52] >> Particularly going to be

[47:52] burdensome and that they're

[47:54] already going to be there. So

[47:56] we're going to already have

[47:57] provided this information to

[47:58] the special magistrate.

[47:58] They're gonna have already

[47:59] have it will already be that

[48:00] we're all going to be there.

[48:03] So for us, it's probably

[48:06] faster and easier if we're the

[48:09] only ones there.

[48:10] >> And I think to to add to

[48:13] that will be much the same as

[48:14] you know, special magistrate

[48:17] for a coat case. You have, you

[48:22] know, you Violation coming

[48:23] before the special magistrate

[48:24] and you still have the code

[48:27] officer present the file in

[48:28] order for the magistrate to

[48:31] make their finding. Even if

[48:32] the person who is appealing

[48:33] her challenging requesting

[48:40] reduction has not.

[48:40] >> Well, I want have ever

[48:41] write this in time them. But

[48:44] the ones are not. I want I

[48:46] want to run a tight ship. This

[48:49] one too.

[48:51] >> We believe this one is very

[48:53] tight. It's within the law and

[48:54] again hasn't been challenged.

[48:54] Commissioner, you want to go

[48:59] be a motion?

[48:59] >> Make a motion to move

[49:02] forward with me with

[49:03] trespassing ordinance as

[49:08] presented second.

[49:09] >> And being advertised just

[49:13] coming back into next meeting.

[49:14] Have everything that you need

[49:18] we do. Thank u k. We

[49:19] commission of a motion by

[49:21] Commissioner bureau second by

[49:22] commissioner. Some are all in

[49:22] favor say Aye. All opposed.

[49:23] Nay motion carries

[49:24] unanimously.

[49:28] >> Okay. We have our ship.

[49:29] Who's going to handle that

[49:39] one? There she is. Pages that.

[49:40] >> Good morning, Martin and

[49:44] the commissioners and so. Our

[49:45] new attorney 2 smiling faces

[49:50] we've this better than before.

[49:51] My name is Lee Seeker. Not on

[49:52] the Affordable housing

[49:54] coordinator for Okeechobee and

[49:58] I am presenting today request

[49:59] to approve are renewed. Al

[50:02] have local housing assistant

[50:03] plan.

[50:05] >> For years 2025 through

[50:07] 2028. So every 3 years we have

[50:08] to renew our local plan and it

[50:13] is up for renewal now. So.

[50:13] There are a couple of items

[50:17] that have changed a little

[50:18] bit.

[50:21] >> One is disaster assistance.

[50:21] >> Florida housing finance

[50:25] recommended. An update on ours

[50:26] because I just didn't have

[50:28] very much detail to it. So

[50:32] it's just an addition of more

[50:34] items that we would be able to

[50:34] assist with after a disaster

[50:38] is declared. And then also

[50:40] adding a new strategy for

[50:48] property tax assistance. See?

[50:49] Yes, sir. We talked about

[50:50] before that. We didn't want to

[50:52] allow.

[50:54] >> First last and security

[50:55] rental assistance or can see

[50:57] it right now. But I found it a

[50:57] couple of times in here where

[51:00] it's still mentions that.

[51:02] >> So it's just first in last,

[51:03] no security deposit. Does say

[51:06] it all in here. Are you

[51:07] looking under the disaster

[51:09] assistance area? Remember

[51:10] where it was? But I found it a

[51:11] couple of times and it is

[51:15] great. I want ask about it.

[51:16] Would we not be better for the

[51:22] landlords protection and the

[51:22] >> the last and the security

[51:26] deposit. And then they. Glenn

[51:28] got best chance of beating

[51:29] scant and he's still we're

[51:32] helping the people.

[51:34] >> So we did a technical

[51:35] revision on Happ back in

[51:37] NOVEMBER. And so that item the

[51:38] security deposit part portion

[51:42] was taken out. So for rental

[51:44] moving assistance, we moved

[51:45] forward with just assisting

[51:48] first and last month's rent

[51:49] because if the tenant moves

[51:51] out, they get that security

[51:52] deposit back. So why are we

[51:53] going to assist with that

[51:53] portion of it? And then

[51:57] they're liable to some form

[51:58] of, you know, responsibility

[52:01] on their part most time. And a

[52:03] tenant moves out that deposits

[52:04] held because they have repair

[52:04] the house. That's what I'm

[52:05] thinking is just to protect

[52:05] our landlords.

[52:09] >> You know? We know that they

[52:10] need something in there. So

[52:13] let them do that. First the

[52:13] end, we help them with the

[52:15] last in the security and then

[52:19] it's a win-win for everyone.

[52:20] And then that said most center

[52:21] that house gets back in the

[52:22] into the circulation for

[52:26] another rental.

[52:29] >> can change that to security

[52:29] deposit mean that friend I

[52:30] don't follow the commission

[52:32] feel that we're not. But I

[52:32] just think that's most thing

[52:35] that we can do out there. So

[52:39] we did also add in I'm sorry,

[52:41] >> that I have to receive

[52:43] notification from the

[52:43] landlord. If I'm assisting

[52:45] with MoveOn assistance that

[52:47] they're up to terms on their

[52:49] So that's something that

[52:50] changes. Well, so people are

[52:51] just moving out and leaving

[52:53] their landlord high and dry

[52:55] and trying receive assistance

[52:58] to To explain what I'm talking

[52:59] about, that there was a time

[53:00] when we gave first last and

[53:01] security. People moved in

[53:03] without skin in the game.

[53:05] >> So what I'm suggesting is

[53:05] let which we said they could

[53:09] do one of the 3. So if they do

[53:10] first and we do blast and

[53:12] security, then that helps

[53:14] landlords position as we do it

[53:15] last and security best and

[53:17] security, they still do too.

[53:18] They have to come up with a

[53:19] first in if they move about

[53:21] the landlord made somewhat

[53:22] hole. They would put the house

[53:23] back in circulation. You MAY

[53:26] create more rentals. The

[53:27] question people know they're

[53:28] protected. Question on that.

[53:33] If we do the security. And

[53:33] everything's fine and they

[53:34] don't need repairs with that

[53:36] check. Be cut back to us ERs.

[53:37] That check will go back to

[53:41] that Renner. That they never

[53:44] that's not their money. So you

[53:44] can't secure it with right,

[53:45] but that you've got to explain

[53:47] that every single landlord,

[53:48] it's almost better if we're

[53:51] going to do too. To make them

[53:54] do this. Security deposit.

[53:55] Because part of their skin in

[53:57] the game 5 don't tear this

[53:58] house up on getting that money

[54:00] back. Where is the first and

[54:03] last Argonne? Regardless just

[54:05] if the goal in this set their

[54:05] listen. We all had this

[54:08] conversation before.

[54:09] >> And frankly, it made more

[54:10] sense to me then that it does

[54:14] now, which is sad. But no no,

[54:16] which also was at the time

[54:17] too, to have them have some

[54:19] skin in the game. If the board

[54:21] is wanting to approve 2. And I

[54:24] would think the one that that

[54:25] you would leave to the renter

[54:28] would be the security deposit

[54:30] just to not have a son that

[54:31] nightmare what are we owed

[54:35] $450 back from 37? 0, 8, North

[54:40] West. 3rd or not, I a.

[54:41] >> they making the landlords

[54:42] got him an escrow account. So

[54:44] that's not an issue. Maybe

[54:46] they could keep the money and

[54:46] what we have to track down

[54:47] somebody on our staff. Right.

[54:49] But it they move out without

[54:52] paying. You can bet you go.

[54:54] Spend $500 on the house. You

[54:54] viewed you know, better than

[54:55] that give because you've been

[54:58] in you know, so I don't think

[55:00] that's an issue. I just think

[55:01] it's a way of helping the

[55:02] landlord. But the house right

[55:03] back out there in circulation

[55:04] for semester at MR. CHAIRMAN.

[55:08] Yes, sir. Is there a cap on

[55:13] the security deposit?

[55:13] >> So there's a Three-thousand

[55:17] dollar cap on that assistance.

[55:18] >> Okay. But there's no cap

[55:20] per se on the security

[55:20] deposit.

[55:21] >> Well, at the moment we're

[55:24] not paying security deposit so

[55:25] first. And last month's rent

[55:30] up to $3,000. I would say.

[55:31] >> Been landlord many, many

[55:38] times. I would say.

[55:38] Commissioner Commissioner

[55:40] Paisley said pay first and

[55:42] last let them bees.

[55:45] Responsible for the security

[55:46] deposit, but kept the sure

[55:49] cure deposit it $500 is

[55:50] because somebody will try to

[55:52] game the system. Some

[55:52] landlords are going get you

[55:56] said just the opposite of You

[55:56] said what commissioner?

[56:00] They're ok, well, governor on

[56:00] commissioner not know what

[56:01] say. They have no control of

[56:02] his could positive for not

[56:06] paying it, but that We don't

[56:07] want control. I mean, we don't

[56:08] want to give it. I'm just

[56:09] saying that we should cap it.

[56:13] If we're going to do do this.

[56:16] If we kept it to where they

[56:18] can sort of $1000 or $1500,

[56:20] not our business, but we're

[56:22] not paying. You just said they

[56:23] first and last about security.

[56:25] So we know that control of I

[56:25] understand. But I mean, I

[56:27] think we can still have

[56:29] control over how much if

[56:31] they're using are if they're

[56:31] using an you're paying first

[56:32] and last and not security. I

[56:35] know But they're there.

[56:38] They're getting fun from us

[56:39] for first and last. But you

[56:41] can't cry with open market

[56:42] progress. Well, take away

[56:44] their rights. You can pay

[56:45] security if you won't do this

[56:46] without paid the security in

[56:49] the last. Either way and

[56:50] taking really doesn't matter

[56:51] to me if we want to do 2 of

[56:55] the 3. I could care less.

[56:56] Which 2 of the 3 I was just

[56:58] going to say some paperwork

[56:59] potentially. I just know one

[57:01] of the big stumbling blocks

[57:02] from people trying to get into

[57:03] a place is playing first

[57:04] lesson. Security could be 3,

[57:08] $4,000. So I was just trying

[57:12] to make it to where. Their

[57:13] rent or pay security deposit.

[57:15] So they would be more likely

[57:16] to take care of it because are

[57:18] getting there. Security

[57:21] deposit back that. I mean,

[57:21] that's that's the way I'm

[57:22] looking at it, that they'll be

[57:24] they'll have that skin in the

[57:27] game. That's what it is right

[57:27] now.

[57:28] >> Okay. So we change that

[57:29] back in NOVEMBER. So this

[57:30] round of funding, that's the

[57:34] way that it has been the

[57:34] guidelines that But there's no

[57:35] cap commissioner to cause no

[57:38] cap, ok?

[57:39] >> Is the security based on

[57:40] one month's rent. Normally

[57:46] normally a okay. If you have.

[57:50] Last month's rent. And your

[57:52] escrow account and you don't

[57:53] collect rent and go to that

[57:54] person say, hey, you know,

[57:54] you're Stu. And they well,

[57:57] we're moving now. At least you

[57:58] have a couple weeks to

[57:58] advertise maybe get another

[58:01] runner at. What's nice about

[58:07] last month. Yeah, right.

[58:08] >> the try this war to you

[58:09] said you, you're suggesting

[58:14] the security and the last.

[58:17] That if live in time when I

[58:19] don't to I'm fine with that

[58:20] because at the but I do think

[58:24] are you suggesting that cap on

[58:24] the security or no cast? I

[58:26] don't think you can set case

[58:26] open market. I don't want to

[58:31] get big league. Well, what I

[58:32] only reason I ask we pay with

[58:33] that were paid, but we've got

[58:35] 3,000 Max's. We can do a case.

[58:36] That's what the cap is for

[58:37] that. That was my question.

[58:39] Total for the are 2 payments

[58:40] of the 3. Right. 3,000 total

[58:44] Okay. I'm toy. So it's just to

[58:45] the second in the in the the

[58:45] security and then we're done

[58:50] with it. And that be an

[58:50] amendment on next year's

[58:51] because this year's already

[58:53] set for

[58:54] >> So we have conditional

[58:55] approval already from the

[58:56] state for this one. But I can

[58:58] still make changes soaker.

[58:59] This doesn't expire until

[59:02] JULY. 1st.

[59:03] >> Okay. She's got some time

[59:04] to make the change to. So got

[59:07] a couple of 3,002 security, a

[59:08] security deposit. And the last

[59:13] is what made the motion on.

[59:14] Motion by Commissioner Bo

[59:15] second by Commissioner Summer.

[59:18] >> Any further discussion? Go

[59:24] along to. To get a little fall

[59:25] on my sword for this. But I

[59:26] still and I guess in my mind

[59:27] think that the fa.

[59:30] >> If actual Renner isn't it's

[59:33] a responsible for the

[59:34] security. They'll do a better

[59:34] job, making sure it's returned

[59:39] and or close to rentable

[59:43] shape, go along with this.

[59:44] >> If you fix that problem,

[59:48] start doing rentals. Mean, I

[59:50] rentals. I agree. Sitting

[59:50] there looking out for the

[59:54] landlord and and the and the

[59:56] so I do have a selection on

[59:57] this. If we are going to

[59:59] assist with security deposit

[1:00:00] in last month's rent, does

[1:00:01] that mean the security deposit

[1:00:02] is going to come back to the

[1:00:04] county?

[1:00:07] >> That's what I That would be

[1:00:08] it. Yes, it was in the past

[1:00:09] that it did not. When we

[1:00:11] assisted with all 3.

[1:00:13] >> So moving forward, is that

[1:00:14] something that we want to

[1:00:16] implement, that it comes back

[1:00:18] to the county, money the

[1:00:19] repairs So we need to make the

[1:00:23] motion clear that

[1:00:24] >> It's a second. Is going to

[1:00:26] be the security deposit in the

[1:00:27] last place. Security deposit

[1:00:28] will be returned to the county

[1:00:30] if they're okay. The amendment

[1:00:35] by commissioner Burrows.

[1:00:35] Deposit to return to the

[1:00:36] county if not needed for

[1:00:38] repairs. Can I get a second

[1:00:40] second? All in favor of the

[1:00:42] amendment say Aye. All opposed

[1:00:46] nay. The motion as amended is

[1:00:50] last and security and for the.

[1:00:51] >> We the pause, it be

[1:00:51] returned back to us if not

[1:00:53] needed for repairs for the

[1:00:55] landlord all in favor say Aye.

[1:00:56] Aye. All opposed. Nay motion

[1:01:00] carries unanimously. Attorney.

[1:01:09] She didn't drown. Okay. It's

[1:01:10] crushing. You can take the

[1:01:11] next one. Sure. We've been

[1:01:15] nice.

[1:01:18] >> I not want to you

[1:01:23] >> comment. All right. The we

[1:01:25] recently amended the Land

[1:01:26] Development regulations for

[1:01:29] the review process for major

[1:01:30] developments. The they will

[1:01:31] now be reviewed by the board

[1:01:33] of County commissioners. Some

[1:01:34] major developments will go to

[1:01:35] the site Plan Review

[1:01:36] Committee. They'll make a

[1:01:37] recommendation. The Planning

[1:01:38] Board independent board to

[1:01:39] make a recommendation to the

[1:01:40] county commissioners. That's

[1:01:44] site plan final form the

[1:01:44] board, one of the opportunity

[1:01:45] to look at some site plans

[1:01:47] little bit earlier in the

[1:01:51] process. So the thought to

[1:01:52] come up with for that was a to

[1:01:53] become does not require

[1:01:54] pre-application meeting that

[1:01:59] lot of places do.

[1:02:00] Pre-application meeting

[1:02:00] generally is is the first time

[1:02:01] the developer showing the

[1:02:05] jurisdiction. The county,

[1:02:06] their basic planned a little

[1:02:06] more conceptual. You have an

[1:02:08] idea of what you want to do,

[1:02:11] but you haven't done all heavy

[1:02:12] engineering yet. So a process

[1:02:13] could be for major

[1:02:15] developments require the

[1:02:17] pre-application meeting. The

[1:02:18] first going to committee and

[1:02:20] then it would still go to the

[1:02:21] board of County commissioners,

[1:02:22] more dust as the part of the

[1:02:24] pre-application process. Given

[1:02:25] opportunity to see it before

[1:02:25] before a lot of the heavy

[1:02:29] engineering done. And then

[1:02:29] with whoever Gretchen, the

[1:02:30] board has they would finish up

[1:02:34] the full set of plans. Go back

[1:02:34] to the center Committee

[1:02:35] Planning Board County

[1:02:40] Commission. So you have The

[1:02:41] new application now you can

[1:02:43] check the box either.

[1:02:44] >> Preliminary or final

[1:02:48] correct?

[1:02:49] >> Yeah, but we probably

[1:02:50] change the wording on the

[1:02:52] little bit so that it's it's

[1:02:54] clear that it is a pre

[1:02:55] application.

[1:02:55] >> But what MAY come pull him

[1:02:58] under? I'm asking I'm be

[1:03:02] difficult.

[1:03:04] >> You know, you get into some

[1:03:07] semantics pre application.

[1:03:08] Before now, formal application

[1:03:11] has been submitted.

[1:03:11] Preliminaries service started

[1:03:12] application process.

[1:03:14] Ultimately, it doesn't matter

[1:03:17] as long as the the developers

[1:03:18] know what that means. We're

[1:03:19] looking for what stage. It

[1:03:20] doesn't matter what we call

[1:03:21] it. So you could live with

[1:03:21] what you would have on your

[1:03:22] application. Yeah. Okay. Do we

[1:03:25] have a fee schedule for this?

[1:03:26] No, we do not have an

[1:03:29] additional fee for We have a

[1:03:30] patient comes how we're going

[1:03:34] handle this. We'll ask for

[1:03:38] donations. So have we don't

[1:03:44] handle Chair good amendment to

[1:03:45] I think that if the board

[1:03:47] agrees to this process that

[1:03:49] will go back and look at our

[1:03:50] fee think bring the fee

[1:03:51] schedule back. We'll see what

[1:03:52] the costs are.

[1:03:55] >> And I don't want to.

[1:03:56] >> Burton anyone, but mean,

[1:03:57] there's got to be cost of

[1:04:01] doing business. MR. CHAIRMAN.

[1:04:01] Yes, sir.

[1:04:02] >> hate to tell I hate to say

[1:04:07] this. I really do. What you're

[1:04:07] doing here is probably going

[1:04:12] to be short lived. Comes to or

[1:04:15] remind yourself of that, ok,

[1:04:15] that what you're doing here.

[1:04:16] Whether or not he does of the

[1:04:20] are not fee. This is the this

[1:04:21] potentially has the ability to

[1:04:22] be short-lived by JULY one.

[1:04:27] Okay. We'll get to JULY. He

[1:04:28] can do about the JULY. But

[1:04:31] after that time we have a

[1:04:33] different will have some

[1:04:34] potentially different ways to

[1:04:35] do And you want elaborate on

[1:04:35] why you think this can happen

[1:04:40] is for them due to fact that

[1:04:42] we have 2 bills in the House

[1:04:45] and the Senate are moving very

[1:04:46] rapidly that they development

[1:04:47] or developer what about the

[1:04:50] shoes? A developer, for

[1:04:52] example, we'll be able to come

[1:04:53] in for large developments. And

[1:04:56] and not have to go through all

[1:05:00] of these processes, MR. Roy's

[1:05:01] would be he would be the way

[1:05:03] we did administrative

[1:05:05] approval. And we look at it

[1:05:06] from the state way. It's

[1:05:07] presented that MR. Roy's would

[1:05:10] be providing that opportunity

[1:05:12] to agree that the development

[1:05:14] is right. So you kind of

[1:05:15] review. Remove all of these

[1:05:18] reviews. To some degree that

[1:05:19] it's still in the process of

[1:05:20] being the sausage is still

[1:05:24] being made. We're still we

[1:05:25] haven't got sausage Stewart

[1:05:27] Udall put Pepper in. I don't

[1:05:30] but in it. But we're trying to

[1:05:33] fight. We're trying to be in

[1:05:34] next week and we're going to

[1:05:35] try work with Senator McLean

[1:05:40] on us. And we got lobbyists

[1:05:41] that are working on a fact

[1:05:42] lobbyists. I got this small

[1:05:43] coalition lobbyists working on

[1:05:46] it, but I think that the

[1:05:48] developers have a lot of money

[1:05:50] and they look and the bottom

[1:05:54] line, what we've been told. Is

[1:05:55] that they're tired dealing

[1:05:57] with the they can pay enough

[1:05:58] money to the legislators in

[1:06:00] order to get get the bill

[1:06:01] created unchanged. Love They

[1:06:08] can deal with this. Can do

[1:06:08] this until JULY one of this.

[1:06:10] Wait to see what the sauces

[1:06:11] looks like. I'm just kind of

[1:06:13] give just inside too. When

[1:06:15] we're talking about the fees

[1:06:16] and everything MAY we just try

[1:06:17] to work through to get to a

[1:06:21] point. And then if you're if

[1:06:21] it doesn't come about when

[1:06:23] JULY one that we at these 2.

[1:06:26] Well, could be least are or

[1:06:27] feeble attempt to hold onto

[1:06:35] home rule. Even if it just

[1:06:36] showing of saying, you know,

[1:06:36] we want to hold onto home

[1:06:40] rule.

[1:06:41] >> was just information for

[1:06:45] the chair. Appreciate. Okay.

[1:06:46] Any other comments the

[1:06:48] suggestions MR. Roast were

[1:06:49] open.

[1:06:51] >> No, again, the impending

[1:06:52] law is bad law I'm That Yeah,

[1:06:57] but I'm talking about, you No,

[1:06:58] I and we'll put it together

[1:07:01] in. Guess is they said, would

[1:07:02] want to know for sure with

[1:07:06] that legislation in the past

[1:07:08] or not? Love and to the past,

[1:07:09] we welcome back to is that's

[1:07:10] not going to pass and we'll

[1:07:10] come to you with ability

[1:07:14] schedule. For the for the fee

[1:07:17] for required a pre application

[1:07:18] conference. To be okay with

[1:07:19] all of it. Yes, sir. Okay. I

[1:07:21] have one question chair. Yes,

[1:07:24] sir, does it make the

[1:07:26] application process longer?

[1:07:27] Yes, that that's how much

[1:07:31] longer. It's probably going to

[1:07:34] have a couple months what we

[1:07:35] have are for relatively

[1:07:38] speaking. We have relatively

[1:07:39] since then. We process anyway,

[1:07:39] but he looking at a couple

[1:07:47] months to it. For myself.

[1:07:48] Commissioner,

[1:07:50] >> the couple months old,

[1:07:58] potentially dissipate. We need

[1:08:04] in the action on this month.

[1:08:04] No, this is your direction. We

[1:08:05] don't need to amend. The

[1:08:06] regulations will just start

[1:08:07] doing it.

[1:08:08] >> Okay, Poland, the border,

[1:08:11] but it good. But proposal. I'm

[1:08:14] good, okay. Thank you, MR.

[1:08:20] Roche, thank you. Okay. So

[1:08:21] MISS Leases. Go ahead with

[1:08:32] this next one. This Lisa. Good

[1:08:37] morning. Good morning.

[1:08:38] >> Approval is required to

[1:08:40] confirm the appointment of

[1:08:42] this caring Kozak as the

[1:08:42] emergency management director.

[1:08:43] For you'll be county county

[1:08:45] pursuant to Florida statute.

[1:08:49] One to 5.7, 4 k the county

[1:08:50] administrator is required to

[1:08:51] bring the employment of all

[1:08:52] department heads to the board

[1:08:54] for confirmation of

[1:08:56] appointment. Codes that comes

[1:08:58] to Okeechobee County Bocc with

[1:08:59] 6 years of emergency

[1:08:59] management work experience

[1:09:01] with Florida Division of

[1:09:02] Emergency Management and

[1:09:04] Port St. Lucie County Board of

[1:09:06] County Commissioners. MISS

[1:09:08] Kozak has her high-performance

[1:09:09] leadership master certificate

[1:09:11] from the National Association

[1:09:12] of counties. Kozak has also

[1:09:14] completed the emergency

[1:09:15] management mid-level

[1:09:18] leadership development

[1:09:18] program. Kozak holds a

[1:09:20] master's degree and emergency

[1:09:21] health services from the

[1:09:23] University of Maryland,

[1:09:24] Baltimore County and a

[1:09:25] bachelor of Science degree and

[1:09:26] public safety from Indian

[1:09:29] River State College. The

[1:09:30] county administrator

[1:09:31] recommends confirmation of

[1:09:32] appointment of ms Caring Kozak

[1:09:34] as the emergency management

[1:09:35] director. We have Kozak here

[1:09:37] with us today and we have

[1:09:41] chief moving as well.

[1:09:44] >> You've got a baby. Tough

[1:09:45] because you didn't run this

[1:09:50] morning. So apologize. We get

[1:09:55] broken in that way. Being that

[1:09:56] process of being solved. I

[1:09:56] think we're going to do that.

[1:10:01] But I hear a lot of good.

[1:10:03] Comments about your work in

[1:10:03] the past and your capabilities

[1:10:06] and as one commissioner, I

[1:10:08] welcome you aboard. Thank you.

[1:10:11] Commissioners have Well, MR.

[1:10:15] CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir. I looked

[1:10:16] and low. The application been

[1:10:18] rejected. But do you live in

[1:10:19] Okeechobee?

[1:10:20] >> Port St. Lucie County, sir,

[1:10:29] about 30 minutes from here.

[1:10:30] >> She's good. She's agreed to

[1:10:35] be here. 24 7 men Hurricane

[1:10:36] activate of any reason Brian

[1:10:37] knew she didn't know she would

[1:10:41] do that and yes. And if any

[1:10:43] other questions, comments.

[1:10:47] CHAIRMAN, yes, sir.

[1:10:48] >> We appreciate you coming in

[1:10:52] and wanting to be part of this

[1:10:53] organization. Erland is is a

[1:10:56] great fire chief, as you saw

[1:10:57] today, unfortunately, wants to

[1:10:58] leave us in a few years. But,

[1:11:00] you maybe you can talk him out

[1:11:03] of that, but we certainly

[1:11:04] appreciate you your your

[1:11:06] resume is is excellent. And I

[1:11:07] her do the things about you

[1:11:11] so. Certainly appreciate the

[1:11:12] fact that you being here. I

[1:11:15] think that you'll be fine and

[1:11:15] enjoy the opportunity into

[1:11:19] hurricane season. Just going

[1:11:24] to be out this year. And that

[1:11:25] the CHAIRMAN Is a weather man

[1:11:27] now, I love.

[1:11:28] >> That's that's the nicest

[1:11:31] thing I've been accused of the

[1:11:31] day.

[1:11:33] >> Well, it's true. It no fun.

[1:11:34] Finger gestures. Just being a

[1:11:35] weather man. I'll make a

[1:11:38] motion to approve the. The

[1:11:42] emergency management. Director

[1:11:46] was caring closet. We have a

[1:11:47] motion by Commissioner Burrows

[1:11:48] second by Commissioner. Good

[1:11:50] bread. Any further discussion.

[1:11:52] >> All in favor say Aye. Aye

[1:11:52] opposed. Nay makes motion

[1:11:55] carries unanimously. Thank

[1:11:55] you. Welcome aboard. Thank you

[1:12:03] so much. Don't hear ok, who's

[1:12:10] going take the next one?

[1:12:11] >> Because that would be me.

[1:12:12] Sorry. I got to keep up here.

[1:12:15] He was still trying rep your

[1:12:16] arms around that weatherman

[1:12:21] position. A

[1:12:25] >> forts. APRIL 3rd special

[1:12:28] meeting. The board discussed

[1:12:29] revisions of administrative

[1:12:31] regulation. 3 point '09, which

[1:12:32] is the general rules and

[1:12:32] procedures for the board of

[1:12:37] County Commission meetings.

[1:12:37] And the revisions that are

[1:12:42] being proposed for for the are

[1:12:44] 3.9 0, 9, is moving. The

[1:12:45] public comment.

[1:12:51] >> To after public hearing.

[1:12:51] Removing the language in

[1:12:52] Section j that I discussed

[1:12:56] previously about the Publix

[1:12:57] hearings have to be placed on

[1:12:58] the consent agenda for

[1:12:58] inclusion for the next day

[1:13:02] because there's no.

[1:13:02] >> State law or any law that

[1:13:04] requires that that was just

[1:13:06] the previous commission.

[1:13:09] >> Have put on there and that

[1:13:12] talking about delays so that

[1:13:13] can delay ordinance is being

[1:13:16] presented to you that are non

[1:13:18] zoning ordinances because

[1:13:19] Zonings ordinances didn't have

[1:13:22] that same requirement. And

[1:13:24] then just the consistency of

[1:13:26] addressing what the speaker

[1:13:26] cards are actually called. So

[1:13:29] they we had a different terms

[1:13:32] that we call it that. So.

[1:13:34] >> If there are

[1:13:40] >> Any questions or comments.

[1:13:44] Administrator yes, sir. And I

[1:13:46] asked this question for the

[1:13:50] sake of people watching Only

[1:13:54] only underwear. I'm sure my

[1:13:54] question, I guess, is supposed

[1:13:55] to the attorneys. This is all

[1:13:59] been fitted. We're doesn't run

[1:14:02] afoul of any state or federal

[1:14:03] laws Constitution First

[1:14:05] Amendment. I mean, this is all

[1:14:09] been vetted and we have.

[1:14:10] PRESIDENT To to stand on. Yes,

[1:14:18] sir. Okay is is State law? I

[1:14:19] mean because from every part

[1:14:22] of this was a state. State law

[1:14:23] that we were making or it

[1:14:28] hearing too.

[1:14:28] >> The administrative

[1:14:32] regulation is compliant both

[1:14:35] with the general protections

[1:14:36] afforded sprees. Free speech

[1:14:37] under the First Amendment of

[1:14:39] the United States Constitution

[1:14:40] as well as Florida's

[1:14:41] government and the Sunshine

[1:14:41] Law and the Florida

[1:14:45] Constitution. I just wanted

[1:14:46] to.

[1:14:46] >> Like I said, those mostly

[1:14:47] for people are watching this

[1:14:48] on the Internet and make sure

[1:14:51] that we have. You we have

[1:14:52] vetted the legalities of this

[1:14:58] and the lesser chance of

[1:14:59] lawsuits. That's

[1:15:00] >> and chair. If I could

[1:15:00] address that a little bit

[1:15:04] further whenever we there's

[1:15:07] requirements for notices and

[1:15:08] some some notices you just

[1:15:10] have to put in the bulletin

[1:15:11] board or somewhere, you know,

[1:15:12] at your facility. And our

[1:15:14] meetings. We just have to put

[1:15:16] those when it comes to public

[1:15:19] hearings, those we have to

[1:15:22] after ties. And so we

[1:15:23] advertised that they begin at

[1:15:25] 9 o'clock. But, you know, we

[1:15:26] try to keep them shortly after

[1:15:27] their. So as we were looking

[1:15:31] at this ordinance and how we

[1:15:33] had 4 made formatted our

[1:15:35] regular meeting. We just felt

[1:15:37] that this was more appropriate

[1:15:38] since our public hearings are

[1:15:38] advertised in the paper to

[1:15:41] begin at 9 o'clock. And then

[1:15:45] the public comments can come

[1:15:45] after that. And there's some

[1:15:46] other regulations to, you

[1:15:49] know, we talk in our and are

[1:15:50] decorum policy and also

[1:15:52] administer regulations that

[1:15:54] the public comments need to be

[1:15:55] near the beginning of the

[1:15:57] meeting, but it cannot be the

[1:15:59] last item on the agenda says

[1:16:00] that was my next follow-up

[1:16:01] because I know that there was

[1:16:01] some.

[1:16:04] >> There was some.

[1:16:05] >> Legality or some law that

[1:16:10] we couldn't not have a public

[1:16:11] comment and it had to be I

[1:16:12] thought had to be towards the

[1:16:12] front of the meeting, but it

[1:16:13] really doesn't matter. Just

[1:16:17] can't be at the end.

[1:16:21] >> Current ordinance that the

[1:16:25] board decorum. The current

[1:16:26] ordinance they're asking are

[1:16:32] the governing the to Carmen

[1:16:33] Citizen participation

[1:16:34] prescribes that the public

[1:16:36] comment needs to be near the

[1:16:37] beginning of the meeting and

[1:16:39] shall not be the last.

[1:16:40] >> Part of what we are

[1:16:41] cleaning up in the ordinance

[1:16:42] that will be before you for

[1:16:45] hearing at the next board of

[1:16:48] County commissioners meeting

[1:16:50] is to make that less

[1:16:51] prescriptive in order to allow

[1:16:52] flexibility within the

[1:16:55] administrative regulation. If

[1:16:55] for whatever reason you on you

[1:16:57] to move that.

[1:17:00] >> And just just to close the

[1:17:01] loop. So we talked about there

[1:17:02] are items that the public, the

[1:17:03] public has people to comment

[1:17:06] on items on the agenda, open

[1:17:07] public forum about items that

[1:17:10] are within your purview. The

[1:17:11] that's the distinction. So

[1:17:12] they do still need to be able

[1:17:13] to comment on items on the

[1:17:20] agenda. And It's just. Where

[1:17:20] it is.

[1:17:21] >> Well, and it's always been

[1:17:23] is always held that if

[1:17:24] somebody came before for

[1:17:25] public comment and they

[1:17:27] started commenting on.

[1:17:28] Something that was later on

[1:17:29] the agenda, we will say, you

[1:17:32] know, sir, ma'am, could you

[1:17:33] please hold your comment until

[1:17:36] that until issue was before

[1:17:37] And that's always been that's

[1:17:38] always been a prescribed in

[1:17:41] our public comment. But just

[1:17:44] just making sure that we're

[1:17:46] suit of armor on for this.

[1:17:48] Thank you, commissioner. We

[1:17:57] do. The questions. Comments.

[1:18:01] We need a motion to so moved.

[1:18:06] And administrative regulation.

[1:18:09] Present. So it motion by

[1:18:10] Commissioner Good bridge.

[1:18:11] Second by Commissioner

[1:18:11] Burrows. Any further

[1:18:15] discussion.

[1:18:15] >> All in favor. Say aye nay

[1:18:17] motion carries unanimously.

[1:18:23] Okay.

[1:18:25] >> I will take the next site.

[1:18:26] And yes, this is to approve a

[1:18:27] work authorization with

[1:18:28] Kimley-horn and Associates in

[1:18:33] the Mountain $245,000 says

[1:18:38] 615, $245,615 for professional

[1:18:39] engineering services to

[1:18:40] complete what we call part b

[1:18:44] of the impact fee development

[1:18:47] and adopt resolution. 25 test

[1:18:48] 16 amending the fiscal year.

[1:18:50] 25 budget to appropriate

[1:18:52] unanticipated expenses for

[1:18:53] funding the impact fee

[1:18:56] development and approve.

[1:19:00] Budget amendment. 25 dash 20

[1:19:01] from the reserve for

[1:19:02] contingencies in the amount of

[1:19:08] $246,000. Okay. So the impact

[1:19:10] fee study costs his comeback

[1:19:14] at to this amount of money.

[1:19:15] 245,615.

[1:19:16] >> He's a little list. Thought

[1:19:17] it might be we were expecting

[1:19:23] up to 400,000, yes.

[1:19:23] >> We the need change the

[1:19:25] wording that the CHAIRMAN Is

[1:19:27] going to sign or agreement

[1:19:29] because agreement has your

[1:19:30] signature on And then the

[1:19:34] final pages side. Yes, sir.

[1:19:37] Whichever one you want prefer

[1:19:38] to do.

[1:19:39] >> And this is authorizing the

[1:19:44] chair to execute the work

[1:19:45] authorization, right, but 2

[1:19:49] years. But if they put sick.

[1:19:50] My name on the work

[1:19:50] authorization and should have

[1:19:51] years because that is the ok,

[1:19:56] i just want to make sure that.

[1:19:57] A good you spend that money

[1:20:03] than me. Season after we just

[1:20:06] need make sure we do that.

[1:20:09] MISTER CHAIRMAN, page. Page 2

[1:20:14] of the agreement. 2.33, of the

[1:20:14] packet we can just to strike

[1:20:17] through manually. Just know

[1:20:20] Okay? Yes, sir.

[1:20:23] >> move we approve. Budget

[1:20:31] authorization. 25 dash 20. So

[1:20:33] we've got. 2 items or do

[1:20:36] right.

[1:20:42] >> It's if you approved the

[1:20:43] the motion or the requests

[1:20:46] that I MAY cause. It's

[1:20:47] approving the dollar amount

[1:20:47] with and entering into the

[1:20:48] agreement, work authorization,

[1:20:52] I should say with Kim Lee Horn

[1:20:54] and also adopting resolution.

[1:20:55] 25 16, which amends the fiscal

[1:20:58] year. 25 budget. And then with

[1:20:59] that comes the budget

[1:21:04] amendment. 25 20 2. Use the

[1:21:07] funds from reserves for

[1:21:07] contingencies. Ludin your

[1:21:09] motion. That's that's how

[1:21:10] minute and ok, we have a

[1:21:11] motion by commissioner. Good

[1:21:12] bread. Second by Commissioner

[1:21:13] Burrows.

[1:21:17] >> And you had the discussion.

[1:21:18] All in favor say Aye. Opposed

[1:21:19] nay. Motion carries

[1:21:33] unanimously.

[1:21:36] It's it too. The

[1:21:56] Red River, gender. Years.

[1:21:59] >> You need a minute. We can.

[1:22:07] You need a ok?

[1:22:08] >> Sorry, I send to tell all

[1:22:12] of security me. It was not for

[1:22:15] this meeting joking. Want to

[1:22:16] live here she thought that

[1:22:17] what I asked her to pray for

[1:22:17] me was for this meeting and

[1:22:24] it's not. So I was confused.

[1:22:28] She so fishy oh, okay. MISS

[1:22:34] Them. Give this year. Yes, I

[1:22:37] have one item and that is

[1:22:38] George Landry the county

[1:22:40] administrator from Port St.

[1:22:41] Lucie County.

[1:22:44] >> And has reached out to sea.

[1:22:47] The 3 other counties that

[1:22:48] participate with the medical

[1:22:52] examiner's costs and have

[1:22:54] asked for negotiations that

[1:22:55] there is that the county

[1:22:56] administrators and one board

[1:23:03] member. Meet to negotiate the

[1:23:05] The meeting is Friday, APRIL

[1:23:06] 25th. It would have to be

[1:23:08] before 2 o'clock because at 2

[1:23:10] o'clock, the medical examiner

[1:23:11] will probably be with myself

[1:23:14] and some of the and the other

[1:23:17] as we discuss the budgets

[1:23:18] because that is the afternoon

[1:23:19] and the 25th 10 from 2 to 5 is

[1:23:21] some budget that they want to

[1:23:23] try negotiate a salary. Yes,

[1:23:29] so there was whenever the

[1:23:30] recommendation came back

[1:23:31] before the board, that was

[1:23:32] just to see if the board was

[1:23:37] in agreement and increasing

[1:23:38] the salary up to the think it

[1:23:44] was 495,000 and so on one of

[1:23:46] the county's boards wanted to

[1:23:47] negotiate. And so that's why

[1:23:51] now it's coming back for

[1:23:53] representative and a

[1:23:54] commissioner for from each of

[1:23:56] the 4 counties too, to

[1:23:57] negotiate with the medical

[1:24:03] examiner. So we don't have a

[1:24:04] final cost. A final salary. I

[1:24:06] should say of final salary for

[1:24:09] her position because that was

[1:24:10] a study that was provided to

[1:24:11] give you a maxim to to show

[1:24:14] you what the study is showing.

[1:24:17] Right in the study shows 4.95

[1:24:17] correct. And she's got offers

[1:24:23] from. Of the places. Yes,

[1:24:24] we're one county's. Where's

[1:24:27] the logic? Yeah. So absolutely

[1:24:32] there appears that.

[1:24:32] >> One county did not get all

[1:24:35] the information that we had.

[1:24:36] And that one county has now

[1:24:39] raised the question. To we

[1:24:40] need to sit down with her and

[1:24:45] negotiator salary. In other

[1:24:45] words, 3 of the county's did

[1:24:46] what we did. But the one

[1:24:47] county didn't get all the

[1:24:51] information. And so now that

[1:24:52] commission has race. That

[1:24:54] answer, maybe we don't agree

[1:24:57] that we need to negotiate.

[1:25:02] Right guests and she.

[1:25:03] >> And there was a negotiation

[1:25:05] process that needed to happen

[1:25:06] anyway. It's just that instead

[1:25:07] of just Port St. Lucie County,

[1:25:08] which I would imagine because

[1:25:09] they they're the ones that

[1:25:13] have facilitated this. Now it

[1:25:15] will be a representative from

[1:25:16] each county. That's that's

[1:25:17] participating with the

[1:25:20] negotiation for the salary. So

[1:25:23] when when we doing this? And

[1:25:27] it is. I haven't heard back.

[1:25:28] The recommendation in the

[1:25:30] letter is Friday. APRIL 25th.

[1:25:33] He said it in a tough any time

[1:25:33] that I responded back to that

[1:25:38] we have. Budget meetings in

[1:25:40] the afternoon meeting with

[1:25:41] 19th Judicial Court system,

[1:25:43] the medical examiner, all

[1:25:45] those other guardian ad litem

[1:25:46] and it's actually over its

[1:25:50] Port St. Lucie County as well.

[1:25:50] So and the medical examiner is

[1:25:52] one of those. So she's would

[1:25:53] have to be in the 2 o'clock

[1:25:57] meeting. So had recommended

[1:25:58] the morning any time before. 2

[1:26:02] o'clock on the 25th.

[1:26:02] Commissioner bows. Been

[1:26:03] working this.

[1:26:07] >> What was your What we need

[1:26:10] to do? I think it's probably

[1:26:12] appropriate. Do the fact of

[1:26:13] what the information that

[1:26:13] administrator allowed me to

[1:26:17] understand the other day. If

[1:26:18] you want me to be on to do

[1:26:19] that, I'll be happy to do it

[1:26:20] or you can do it or anybody

[1:26:22] else. That's what she started

[1:26:24] asking is who do you want? Is

[1:26:24] the commissioner to represent?

[1:26:28] It was hurt.

[1:26:30] >> From a boat. You been

[1:26:32] involved in it. Everything we

[1:26:33] do. I would ask you if you'd

[1:26:39] be so good is to do it. That's

[1:26:40] be we got hear over over I

[1:26:41] would imagine at St. Louis

[1:26:43] County. You like going in

[1:26:46] knowing him. Just doesn't make

[1:26:54] a difference. Nobody knows ok?

[1:26:58] What that? That would be it.

[1:27:03] MR. Nelson. Yes, Sir. I've got

[1:27:04] a few things for Let me bring

[1:27:08] up a couple of. Papers. And

[1:27:09] this is in regards to so we

[1:27:10] move. I want to get this out

[1:27:25] there.

[1:27:44] So I wanted to bring up

[1:27:46] I've met with the supervised

[1:27:46] elections after our last

[1:27:49] meeting. We've had a couple of

[1:27:49] >> a couple of different

[1:27:51] times. We've been to the site

[1:27:54] done a preliminary drawing

[1:27:56] based off of the discussions

[1:27:57] that myself and the supervisor

[1:28:00] of elections have had with

[1:28:02] that, I've put together a

[1:28:03] proposed costs for the

[1:28:04] renovations and tear

[1:28:05] innovation and the front of

[1:28:09] the building to be painted.

[1:28:10] Those costs are in there.

[1:28:12] Sorry, I gave away all my

[1:28:13] papers. I think it ended up

[1:28:16] around $86,000 in total

[1:28:17] construction costs. That space

[1:28:19] is the space that I have

[1:28:20] provided you in the drawings

[1:28:22] gives you an exact site

[1:28:23] utilization for the space, so

[1:28:26] he would be occupying at the

[1:28:27] Alderman building along with

[1:28:30] the layout and design the

[1:28:31] majority of what we're looking

[1:28:33] at in here. It's not really a

[1:28:36] lot of of actual moving of

[1:28:37] laws. Construction cost things

[1:28:41] like that. Most of it is just

[1:28:42] cosmetic renovations of things

[1:28:43] that need to be approved in

[1:28:46] the building. Of course, with

[1:28:46] the numbers I've I've

[1:28:49] provided. Thank Of course,

[1:28:50] with the numbers I have

[1:28:55] provided we do have a

[1:28:56] significant amount of labor

[1:28:57] that's in there. And the main

[1:28:57] intention is to have the

[1:29:01] majority of the work handle

[1:29:01] the facilities, maintenance

[1:29:02] staff because a lot of it is

[1:29:04] stuff that our staff can do.

[1:29:05] So I just wanted to bring that

[1:29:06] up that we're we're intention

[1:29:10] is to be below the $80,860 for

[1:29:14] total construction cost, but

[1:29:15] just wanted the board to be

[1:29:16] aware, looking for a little

[1:29:17] bit more direction. If you

[1:29:18] know, I would love to see all

[1:29:18] the commissioners come out.

[1:29:20] Look at the facility. Look at

[1:29:22] the building. Get an idea of

[1:29:23] the space that so he wanting

[1:29:25] to utilize. And I think it

[1:29:26] would be the best utilization

[1:29:30] of the space met with Ajax,

[1:29:32] which is the current occupant

[1:29:33] of that space. They are

[1:29:34] willing to move to the real

[1:29:35] building until the finish of

[1:29:39] their contract for short term.

[1:29:42] That's a very minimal cost to

[1:29:43] us to do that. We've got to

[1:29:46] pay to have their That's it.

[1:29:47] So it's a very minimal cost

[1:29:48] facilities would handle the

[1:29:51] rest of that move for them. So

[1:29:52] you're not just looking for a

[1:29:53] little bit more direction from

[1:29:55] the board on that to kind of

[1:29:56] how we would like to proceed.

[1:29:59] i would really like to start

[1:30:01] something saying. I said the

[1:30:04] moneys budgeted. We did have

[1:30:05] 200,000 the We've still got

[1:30:08] about one, 98 and some change

[1:30:08] in that budget after we moved

[1:30:13] all of cip. So we used a very

[1:30:14] minimal amount of that budget

[1:30:15] to do what we what plan of

[1:30:18] moving all 3 once the full

[1:30:22] moves done, I will have some

[1:30:22] expenses for the movement of

[1:30:24] the other system. County

[1:30:26] administrator and then a

[1:30:27] conference room wall that will

[1:30:29] have to be built. But it's

[1:30:30] it's minimal. So I think in my

[1:30:32] in my opinion, I think this is

[1:30:33] the best move for the county.

[1:30:39] Just knew. Ajax's using all

[1:30:40] this space currently

[1:30:41] yesterday. This is just the

[1:30:42] space the Ajax utilizing. It

[1:30:43] is time that you've got to

[1:30:44] wait to then move out

[1:30:45] correctness or what they're

[1:30:46] looking to the I mean, yes, we

[1:30:48] but we would move them now as

[1:30:49] soon as the board gives me

[1:30:51] direction, that this is a good

[1:30:54] way to We would put them my

[1:30:55] old Spacey. At the real

[1:30:56] building and that Lisa, you

[1:30:57] said you can move supervisor

[1:31:00] to for now We're talk about

[1:31:01] leaving the situation anything

[1:31:03] because MISTER Nice Candy game

[1:31:04] finished. Her staff goes. She

[1:31:05] didn't have Yes, sir. But the

[1:31:07] problem I have is is the

[1:31:08] state.

[1:31:09] >> To move so equipment that

[1:31:12] has been made by the state.

[1:31:14] That's a 90 day process to get

[1:31:14] that equipment moved. We've

[1:31:17] been working with the state. I

[1:31:18] it departments to working with

[1:31:20] the state along with so we to

[1:31:21] get the stuff that state has

[1:31:23] to move, that we cannot move

[1:31:24] and that could take up to 90

[1:31:27] days. The problem I have is if

[1:31:27] we move them there

[1:31:30] temporarily. We could be up to

[1:31:31] 90 days. If I start

[1:31:32] construction now I can have

[1:31:33] this project finished within

[1:31:36] 90 to 120 days and that then

[1:31:39] done the final. Construction

[1:31:45] is done. So he's moving wants.

[1:31:48] >> MR. So you think you

[1:31:48] answered my questions. Start

[1:31:49] because I knew there was just

[1:31:50] number of 200,000 was floating

[1:31:54] around last last meeting. So I

[1:31:54] think you answered the

[1:31:55] question now is to to release

[1:31:55] an out on this one here.

[1:31:56] You're going to use 80,000

[1:32:00] really 81,000 just how do

[1:32:01] round numbers 81,000 in order

[1:32:06] to get them over there? What?

[1:32:08] So how many months to we still

[1:32:10] have on the regional list

[1:32:11] leases a 10 month supply if

[1:32:12] I'm correct on that.

[1:32:13] Yesterday's around 10 months,

[1:32:15] 10 months that what what

[1:32:16] number?

[1:32:17] >> Our total cost with that

[1:32:19] with our contribution to the

[1:32:22] taxes and maintenance costs.

[1:32:24] As about 35,000 a rents 24 and

[1:32:25] some change. We pay the taxes

[1:32:25] on that building and then our

[1:32:30] maintenance and fees.

[1:32:32] >> So you talk about 3 roughly

[1:32:33] 3,000 a month. So we're going

[1:32:35] to say 30th out. There's

[1:32:37] $30,000 leaving or excuse me,

[1:32:38] not savings so. You're going

[1:32:45] to So moving them over there.

[1:32:47] And so how was it take to get

[1:32:50] this done? I'm hoping between

[1:32:51] 90 to 120 days. I'm shooting

[1:32:52] for 90 days. Is that within

[1:32:54] the 90 days at state make do

[1:32:55] that I have to give the state

[1:32:58] a new address.

[1:32:59] >> Before the state will even

[1:33:01] put it in the process to move

[1:33:01] the equipment that state has

[1:33:05] to So question is. But then

[1:33:06] the 120 days, the 90 days for

[1:33:09] the state is incorporated.

[1:33:10] Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We would

[1:33:11] want to have direction from

[1:33:12] the board. If this is the

[1:33:13] direction we're going, I would

[1:33:14] go ahead. Put in that request

[1:33:16] for the state to move

[1:33:17] equipment. It's got to be

[1:33:22] mayor. I'm okay with MR.

[1:33:26] CHAIRMAN.

[1:33:28] >> Justin guests are with the

[1:33:29] driver used to be is that can

[1:33:31] be just booked a flight itself

[1:33:32] as a bit. Won't be a

[1:33:33] drive-thru. There won't be a

[1:33:33] drive-thru there more. That

[1:33:35] will the ballot storage room.

[1:33:36] Okay? Because it would be a

[1:33:39] conflict. Yes. What goes on an

[1:33:41] alleyway now? Yes, sir. We

[1:33:42] will be blocking that off with

[1:33:43] cars you see in that and the

[1:33:44] design that that window been

[1:33:45] blocking all those present

[1:33:49] included. It's right here. But

[1:33:50] he sure didn't show anything

[1:33:54] there. Yeah. Because a lot of

[1:33:59] people use it. Texas has a

[1:34:00] part of the building used to

[1:34:02] back not Don't come through

[1:34:02] that. That access. They just

[1:34:03] partnered use the back of the

[1:34:07] building for access to go

[1:34:08] today to to get answer to go

[1:34:10] there. And that helps because

[1:34:11] it you're voting. People can

[1:34:13] park in the front and yes, it

[1:34:14] will use another part of the

[1:34:19] can park in the axis. In many

[1:34:20] more questions about a good.

[1:34:24] But this. I'm good Yeah, I am.

[1:34:30] I have one question. Okay. One

[1:34:31] bathroom that's just one

[1:34:32] bathroom right now. Is that

[1:34:36] enough for?

[1:34:37] >> There is sorry to

[1:34:37] interrupt. But if the hallway

[1:34:41] that goes down. There's set of

[1:34:45] public bathrooms in that

[1:34:46] hallway. And once I meet with

[1:34:47] the sheriff's department about

[1:34:48] where exactly that that

[1:34:52] doorway needs to be in hall,

[1:34:53] then we would know how we

[1:34:54] would access that is. But as

[1:34:55] of now, there's one ad a

[1:34:55] bathroom. This in ada

[1:34:58] compliant bathroom. Now we

[1:34:59] will be doing some renovations

[1:35:01] in that bathroom. Just freshen

[1:35:04] it up. But there would be 2

[1:35:05] more a men's and a women's

[1:35:06] bathroom. That's in that

[1:35:07] hallway that we utilize now

[1:35:10] for staff and public restrooms

[1:35:12] for Ajax. So I'm I'm assuming

[1:35:13] that that shouldn't be an

[1:35:15] issue. But I will be meeting

[1:35:15] with sheriff's department

[1:35:17] staff to discuss the location

[1:35:17] of the door. That's at the

[1:35:19] beginning of that corridor. If

[1:35:22] we could move that door back.

[1:35:22] To the back section because

[1:35:23] most the sheriff from

[1:35:26] interstate a rear anyways that

[1:35:27] would give us complete public

[1:35:29] access to those 2 bathrooms.

[1:35:31] Also, I just want to put that

[1:35:31] in there in case it would only

[1:35:32] be for staff to utilize that

[1:35:36] instead of the public. So as

[1:35:38] of right now, the way it lays

[1:35:38] the public bathroom would be

[1:35:39] that bathroom. That's and that

[1:35:43] front space. That you see. MR.

[1:35:45] CHAIRMAN yesterday Justin and

[1:35:48] put you on the

[1:35:48] >> on the front burner on this

[1:35:49] now to make a decision right

[1:35:52] here. Pros. But I'd like you

[1:35:53] to have to be thinking to make

[1:35:55] us a recommendation on what to

[1:35:57] do with the real Luis, whether

[1:36:02] we should. Not renew could go

[1:36:03] month to month if we're not

[1:36:07] quite finished with them.

[1:36:09] Ajax, you using it. But I'd

[1:36:10] like to kind of start thinking

[1:36:14] about that. And was the room,

[1:36:16] no room to spare yesterday us

[1:36:17] doing at the last minute. If

[1:36:18] you don't mind, please, yes,

[1:36:20] sir. And I think we'll look at

[1:36:21] that will go back and assess

[1:36:21] if we need to keep that

[1:36:24] building. But I think the main

[1:36:25] intention is to try to get rid

[1:36:28] of that to get rid of that

[1:36:29] cost is one of the reasons why

[1:36:29] I think that's the most sense

[1:36:33] to So we to this location.

[1:36:34] >> good thing is in the in the

[1:36:35] long term with we have this

[1:36:38] location as we grow. And as

[1:36:39] the sheriff's starts to move

[1:36:43] into their new snore, spaces,

[1:36:45] it So we too new to grow as

[1:36:46] needed and plus, move other

[1:36:47] departments into that facility

[1:36:48] if needed. So I think in the

[1:36:50] long term we we would

[1:36:52] probably. Terminate that lease

[1:36:56] at the end of its term, which

[1:36:57] with the time we have left

[1:36:58] with Ajax is going to be about

[1:37:01] the end of that term. But if

[1:37:03] we look for other spaces are

[1:37:03] think we need any other

[1:37:04] additional spaces, then we

[1:37:07] with look at that. Before we

[1:37:10] terminate that lease. And then

[1:37:11] when had 10 months left on

[1:37:12] yes, sir, about 10 months.

[1:37:19] Okay. Yeah. And so the but

[1:37:19] it's slipped my mind. There's

[1:37:24] talk time.

[1:37:25] >> On on. Didn't did we have

[1:37:26] to do something to the roof of

[1:37:28] the over in building is that

[1:37:28] eventually we were we are

[1:37:30] going to need to replace the

[1:37:31] roof. I often building and I'm

[1:37:32] working through some cost

[1:37:34] estimates right now.

[1:37:35] >> To try to get that probably

[1:37:36] won't go in our next budget

[1:37:37] year, but it will go into the

[1:37:41] to the next. So we're looking

[1:37:42] at getting some cost

[1:37:43] estimates, actually, just a

[1:37:44] couple different design

[1:37:46] options to put that is a

[1:37:47] single membrane roof instead

[1:37:50] of being what it is now. It's

[1:37:51] a it's a gravel and part-time

[1:37:52] reach system out there. Now

[1:37:55] we're looking at some tapered

[1:37:56] iso and going to a single

[1:37:58] membrane type or if so at that

[1:37:59] point, we've got a 50 year

[1:38:01] route from that facility.

[1:38:02] >> then that was another

[1:38:05] suggestion. I was But it's a

[1:38:07] flat roof in that. Yes, there

[1:38:08] a slight root system. So you

[1:38:08] have to frame it up. If you

[1:38:10] want to put men on additional,

[1:38:11] it would be it would be very

[1:38:14] costly to do that. And I think

[1:38:15] with that we have the gutter

[1:38:16] system and everything that's

[1:38:16] inside the facility now still

[1:38:18] in great shape.

[1:38:19] >> Those pipes have been

[1:38:20] painted multiple times over

[1:38:23] the years. So mainly now it's

[1:38:23] just looking at putting

[1:38:25] probably a tape or die. So in

[1:38:26] a single membrane type or just

[1:38:29] a moment, ok? Thank you, sir,

[1:38:29] and appreciate all you do. We

[1:38:30] do appreciate appreciate that.

[1:38:36] Thank you. So everybody's good

[1:38:38] without on moving forward.

[1:38:39] Okay. I will start working on

[1:38:40] that. Trying to get some

[1:38:40] planning stuff together soon

[1:38:43] as possible to get get this

[1:38:44] going. The other thing I would

[1:38:47] like to bring up real quick is

[1:38:48] so facilities maintenance. We

[1:38:51] have 2 chiller replacements

[1:38:52] and I have the agenda item in

[1:38:56] for the next board meeting. We

[1:38:57] have to chill replacements

[1:38:58] that are needing to be done.

[1:38:59] They were budgeted for this

[1:39:01] year. One of them is that this

[1:39:02] building, distillers over 20

[1:39:05] years old, it's failing. And

[1:39:07] then emergency operation

[1:39:08] Center where chief and all the

[1:39:10] staff is that chillers in the

[1:39:12] same type of were having

[1:39:13] issues. We've been having a

[1:39:14] lot of warranty issues and

[1:39:15] service issues with that. Our

[1:39:18] contract is up on the service.

[1:39:18] With both those for

[1:39:22] replacement this year and

[1:39:23] we've been working through

[1:39:25] negotiations with train under

[1:39:26] an army contract and trying to

[1:39:27] get this 2 projects moving

[1:39:31] forward and as you all know

[1:39:32] right now with the things that

[1:39:34] are going on in the open

[1:39:35] market, we kind of got dead

[1:39:38] headed this week. I had

[1:39:39] another conversation with our

[1:39:41] representative which at with

[1:39:42] train, they're trying to hold

[1:39:47] some prices for us. Pretty

[1:39:48] much if we don't sign a

[1:39:49] contract by the end of this

[1:39:52] week for those 2 projects we

[1:39:55] will probably see another 6%

[1:39:57] increase. And the I have the

[1:39:59] contracts available. So if the

[1:40:00] board would allow, I would

[1:40:02] like to see the approval of

[1:40:04] both those on piggyback

[1:40:05] contracts for the 2 facilities

[1:40:08] to go ahead and move forward

[1:40:08] to allow the CHAIRMAN To

[1:40:12] execute both those contracts

[1:40:15] supposed to close said, total

[1:40:16] cost right now for the public

[1:40:19] safety complex. We budgeted

[1:40:21] 200,000 for that project. It's

[1:40:27] coming in at one. 76 8.68. The

[1:40:27] historic courthouse

[1:40:28] replacement. That one because

[1:40:29] we have to replace the pumps.

[1:40:33] Those pumps are failing those

[1:40:34] those 2 pumps that one came

[1:40:35] in. We budgeted 200. It came

[1:40:40] in at 2.51. 29. So with the

[1:40:41] remainder I have the have left

[1:40:42] out of the other one. We'll

[1:40:46] move that over and then I'll

[1:40:47] be moving a probably 30,000

[1:40:48] out of contingency to go ahead

[1:40:49] and cover the additional cost.

[1:40:50] So that should get us to that

[1:40:54] total contract amount.

[1:40:57] >> So in the 6% on that would

[1:40:58] be total of about 2 4,000

[1:41:01] about another $24,000. Yes,

[1:41:01] sir.

[1:41:02] >> Yes, that's why I want to

[1:41:03] bring it up today because I

[1:41:04] had another conversation with

[1:41:05] them with with our train rep

[1:41:07] again this morning. Can you?

[1:41:08] And I asked him, can you

[1:41:10] please hold this until our

[1:41:11] next meeting? And he said, I'm

[1:41:11] doing everything in my power.

[1:41:15] But right now. They're telling

[1:41:16] me that they're there MAY not

[1:41:19] be a way to hold that.

[1:41:20] >> ask a different question.

[1:41:21] So if he doesn't, if we don't

[1:41:25] do this. And he doesn't hold,

[1:41:30] was a outside of the 6%. It's

[1:41:31] just a 6%. That's that's my

[1:41:32] thing is I just want to try to

[1:41:34] keep that cost.

[1:41:35] >> We're already over budget.

[1:41:36] That's what we've been

[1:41:38] negotiating over the last 30

[1:41:41] days is that this building was

[1:41:42] budgeted. We budgeted 200,000

[1:41:44] based off the proposal we were

[1:41:45] given. Of course, we know that

[1:41:49] was last year at this time.

[1:41:50] But this is 20 years old. This

[1:41:52] one here. Yes. And how it one

[1:41:54] of its very so much about 17.

[1:41:55] I think that was 17 years on

[1:42:01] see? Yes, sir. And that once.

[1:42:08] I would say to you. You if you

[1:42:09] see no, Justin came talked to

[1:42:10] me before the board meeting

[1:42:12] today and let me know what was

[1:42:13] going on. And I think it's

[1:42:15] probably in the county's best

[1:42:15] interests, you know, to move

[1:42:17] forward at this time.

[1:42:18] >> Because it's just going to

[1:42:19] cost us more money if we delay

[1:42:22] it any longer.

[1:42:23] >> The lake cost us 24,000,

[1:42:27] roughly. Can you put the

[1:42:28] thermostat somewhere? We can

[1:42:32] get home no, sir,

[1:42:33] >> well, you know, that all

[1:42:35] about in the middle of the

[1:42:36] meeting. Send me a text and

[1:42:38] got change. It got to be some

[1:42:39] way to do it on stat where it

[1:42:43] can be worked by.

[1:42:44] >> So in this system, I just

[1:42:46] want celebrate our stance with

[1:42:47] these to change out. We are

[1:42:49] changing to a different

[1:42:50] control system.

[1:42:52] >> a much more user friendly

[1:42:54] control system. So throughout

[1:42:56] the meetings were right now,

[1:42:57] if I go into Siemens and try

[1:42:57] to do that, do those

[1:43:00] corrections right now, it MAY

[1:43:01] take a huge delay before I can

[1:43:05] make those those changes with

[1:43:06] the new system. I make it.

[1:43:08] It'll be instantaneous to make

[1:43:09] corrections in hat. Do you do

[1:43:12] it on your phone? So I will be

[1:43:13] able to at the new system. We

[1:43:16] need an application. Here's

[1:43:17] can tone and Lana's is just

[1:43:21] not is not.

[1:43:22] >> we've got to come up with a

[1:43:23] different plan you want me to

[1:43:24] keep our power costs down.

[1:43:28] This is what I try to do. Just

[1:43:31] to had been hit with we had.

[1:43:32] But Cotto that, yeah, keeping

[1:43:36] our coast well. I had to get

[1:43:39] you notice aspect to you. But

[1:43:40] to goes downstairs find the

[1:43:41] got you to lower down with

[1:43:41] that, you know, when to quit

[1:43:44] children and worked there

[1:43:45] typewriters. And keep in mind

[1:43:47] that there's that's always

[1:43:49] going. That's always going to

[1:43:54] be an issue in building, a

[1:43:54] home runs. What would a holdup

[1:43:55] and what I brought to great

[1:43:56] things. Look 3.

[1:44:01] >> And chair. We can now set

[1:44:03] the temperature down stairs

[1:44:05] once the alt the documents get

[1:44:06] out from the supervisor of

[1:44:07] elections because we had a

[1:44:08] humidity issue there.

[1:44:10] >> Where items for molding?

[1:44:13] >> Or

[1:44:15] >> there was some old issues

[1:44:17] and we had to control the

[1:44:18] humidity in by country by

[1:44:19] lowering the temperature

[1:44:20] controls the humidity. So once

[1:44:21] those documents are out of

[1:44:25] here, will be able to warm

[1:44:26] everyone up. Yeah, and we'll

[1:44:28] we'll also be working on some

[1:44:29] additional items that will

[1:44:32] help with that humidity. We do

[1:44:32] have an issue in this

[1:44:33] building, keeping humidity

[1:44:36] where it needs to be.

[1:44:37] >> So you need to do

[1:44:37] authorization to go ahead with

[1:44:40] the dew purchases that rents

[1:44:41] Do the transfer. The

[1:44:43] additional funds need to do.

[1:44:46] Cover the additional cost.

[1:44:48] Yes, it and I think the

[1:44:49] transfer because it's coming

[1:44:50] out of contingency should just

[1:44:50] be able to be done with the

[1:44:51] administrators approval to

[1:44:53] under her spending authority.

[1:44:54] >> But we would like the

[1:44:55] consensus from the board to

[1:44:57] make sure we do that transfer.

[1:44:58] Only make a motion to that

[1:45:00] about the Mets going great.

[1:45:03] Make the motion second. We

[1:45:04] have a motion by Commissioner

[1:45:07] Bo second by Commissioner

[1:45:09] summer, say Aye. Motion

[1:45:10] carries Thank you so much. Now

[1:45:13] on on the good side. So I

[1:45:14] don't know if anybody's doubt

[1:45:18] ag Center and if you've

[1:45:21] noticed are cheeky

[1:45:22] replacements going up and it's

[1:45:22] pretty much down will be

[1:45:23] trying to get inspection on

[1:45:27] that over the next week to get

[1:45:28] that finalized. And I know

[1:45:28] staff, they're working on

[1:45:31] landscaping plan to try to

[1:45:32] utilize the rest of the grant

[1:45:35] dollars to finish that project

[1:45:36] up the maintenance building

[1:45:38] out there. Concrete. The new

[1:45:40] concrete cap has been poured.

[1:45:41] So we hope in the next 3 to 4

[1:45:42] weeks to see that building

[1:45:45] sitting on site. So we're

[1:45:46] hoping see the main building

[1:45:50] go up pretty quickly winter

[1:45:52] had a meeting with the also on

[1:45:55] the contract for the tensions.

[1:45:57] And we're waiting on some

[1:45:59] dollar changes to come back

[1:46:01] from them for their best and

[1:46:02] final offer. So we've got a

[1:46:06] lot of projects moving. How's

[1:46:09] that looking Animal control

[1:46:09] framing is almost complete.

[1:46:10] They should start putting all

[1:46:14] the rest of the siding on that

[1:46:14] we're hoping is seen as that's

[1:46:15] done. The Electra Tritions got

[1:46:18] most of his equipment. And so

[1:46:19] we're hoping to see that thing

[1:46:22] probably in the next 60 days

[1:46:24] with all the site work to be

[1:46:26] finished. So we've got premier

[1:46:26] sidewalks and some culverts

[1:46:28] and some other stuff to be

[1:46:30] done. But all the all the

[1:46:31] plumbing the majority of

[1:46:32] electrical and everything's

[1:46:36] done and they should start

[1:46:37] shooting the either today or

[1:46:38] tomorrow. They were finishing

[1:46:39] up training yesterday. Good.

[1:46:41] We should be seeing that move

[1:46:43] along pretty Want to get that

[1:46:43] one done. And we're we're

[1:46:47] looking options for to get the

[1:46:48] kennels right now. Susan's

[1:46:49] working on the pricing for the

[1:46:50] kennels to try to get that

[1:46:54] moving forward. So not parking

[1:46:55] lot at airports going great

[1:46:56] where we're moving along with

[1:46:58] that pretty quickly. So any

[1:47:01] other questions anything year?

[1:47:05] Yes, sir. I brought up a

[1:47:05] couple of meetings. Go about

[1:47:08] got awful pothole.

[1:47:09] >> And from the talk about

[1:47:10] when you said Dot was aware of

[1:47:13] that as well as a couple of

[1:47:14] others.

[1:47:16] >> Any updates as to when

[1:47:17] they're they're there was some

[1:47:18] discussions yesterday in our

[1:47:21] meeting, we had meeting with

[1:47:21] fdot on that project

[1:47:22] yesterday. I sat in that

[1:47:23] meeting and chiefs at and it

[1:47:26] also there were some

[1:47:26] discussions about there's

[1:47:27] there's a coverup couple other

[1:47:28] deficiencies that they still

[1:47:30] have to make. Right. One of

[1:47:31] them is that the bridge

[1:47:32] locations where it meets the

[1:47:33] bridge. Tolling water cause

[1:47:34] asphalt higher than the

[1:47:37] bridge. So there is some some

[1:47:39] that they they know what our

[1:47:41] complaints are, that they have

[1:47:43] a they have not given us a

[1:47:46] timeline on when all those

[1:47:47] repairs will be made there.

[1:47:48] They're looking at how to do

[1:47:48] lane closures and some other

[1:47:52] stuff. And we're just we're

[1:47:53] voicing our opinion. It's not

[1:47:55] our contract and it's not our

[1:47:57] sta. So of course, we voiced

[1:48:00] the opinion multiple times

[1:48:00] that that those and it's not

[1:48:01] just one in front of Taco

[1:48:01] Bell. There's one ever by

[1:48:04] Burger King. That's that's

[1:48:06] very similar. But we're

[1:48:07] voicing our opinion letting

[1:48:09] them as my fact the city

[1:48:10] administrator reached out to

[1:48:11] late yesterday afternoon. I

[1:48:12] have not had time to get back

[1:48:14] with him today and its

[1:48:14] probably some of those

[1:48:19] discussion items. So we're

[1:48:20] working on it. We dot. We're

[1:48:22] doing our best commissioner

[1:48:25] who member the pothole was

[1:48:26] discussed in the last public.

[1:48:31] The public come in the last

[1:48:32] >> chair one other thing do

[1:48:35] want to update them on the

[1:48:35] Falcon. Yes, thank you. I

[1:48:40] thought about that. The Falcon

[1:48:41] we've got the money coming. We

[1:48:44] got I think 27,000 dollar

[1:48:48] offer on They way they your

[1:48:50] condition MAY right there. Not

[1:48:51] that these of we need to leave

[1:48:52] that airport. I need the funds

[1:48:54] the airport

[1:48:55] >> no, no, he gave it back.

[1:48:57] No, you get it back and you

[1:49:00] gave no, no. He gets Ayers.

[1:49:00] No, he gave it back. I need

[1:49:04] the money airport, but yes,

[1:49:06] that it that is moving

[1:49:06] forward. They're actually

[1:49:07] supposed to be wiring us the

[1:49:09] money any day in signing that

[1:49:10] purchase agreement.

[1:49:11] >> So we just had to work out

[1:49:12] some stuff of finance to get

[1:49:12] the money received. They

[1:49:14] wanted to wire transfer the

[1:49:15] funds that will be gone. And

[1:49:18] we're working on the other one

[1:49:20] now. So had a meeting with

[1:49:21] discussion, a crash yesterday

[1:49:22] and told him we need to get

[1:49:23] with a paint shop. We need to

[1:49:24] get the other one removed from

[1:49:27] the facility. Also. So yes,

[1:49:28] thank you. I was happy. That

[1:49:28] was a happy moment to see that

[1:49:33] thing. Go away. She had I

[1:49:34] think that's it. Michelle,

[1:49:35] have any questions on the

[1:49:36] other projects or anything?

[1:49:42] Just comment. Cip is moved

[1:49:44] just figured I know you all

[1:49:45] kind knew that last week we

[1:49:45] were trying to get everything.

[1:49:48] We had that short meeting last

[1:49:49] week. But Cip has now moved to

[1:49:51] this facility. We're all here

[1:49:51] completely unready and ready.

[1:49:54] So anytime you're need

[1:49:54] questions or anything. My

[1:49:57] office is now downstairs. So

[1:49:58] we're for more accessible than

[1:50:03] ever.

[1:50:08] >> Jay,

[1:50:09] >> Good morning to some

[1:50:09] comments real this morning as

[1:50:13] much as Justin had. So staff

[1:50:14] attended the second annual

[1:50:14] fire service at the Capitol

[1:50:18] last week in Tallahassee. We

[1:50:19] showcase fire Rescue Meadow,

[1:50:19] met with Representative Tuck

[1:50:20] and Senator Grall and network

[1:50:23] with fellow department and the

[1:50:25] public. The new engine found

[1:50:25] spectrum is scheduled for

[1:50:28] APRIL. 15th and staff will be

[1:50:28] traveling the Bradenton for

[1:50:30] the day to get that process

[1:50:30] taking care of and hopefully

[1:50:31] get that thing back of Toby

[1:50:34] sing and get in service.

[1:50:35] Following up on some previous

[1:50:36] items, opioid ambulance and

[1:50:37] the associate equipment. I

[1:50:40] have all been ordered and

[1:50:40] working with the budget in

[1:50:41] special projects manager

[1:50:42] through the reimbursement

[1:50:42] process to get that money back

[1:50:46] to They're southeast Florida.

[1:50:47] Fire Rescue's Bruce, the

[1:50:48] quarterly newsletter and we

[1:50:48] plan to have them available

[1:50:49] the next the acc mean for you

[1:50:50] all working with them to get

[1:50:54] this thing printed up APRIL

[1:50:55] 25th. There will be a family

[1:50:57] night for the fire ct cte

[1:50:59] class at the Tri Tran Tower.

[1:51:00] As we're working with

[1:51:01] education foundation of

[1:51:02] Okeechobee, teachers and other

[1:51:03] state counties have to put

[1:51:04] this event together that

[1:51:06] night. Students will showcase

[1:51:07] the things that they learned

[1:51:07] into a scenario in a modified

[1:51:11] firefighter combat challenge.

[1:51:11] We'll be doing awards that

[1:51:12] night as well to the students

[1:51:14] and have a or fresh months.

[1:51:15] We're working on it out of a

[1:51:16] job offer to offer pass the 2

[1:51:18] key student, a job as well.

[1:51:19] That night. Tracie should be

[1:51:21] receiving imitation or later

[1:51:22] than tomorrow for the

[1:51:23] invitation to the commission

[1:51:27] that they're able to attend.

[1:51:28] Last night spoke to man's

[1:51:29] about this. A smart last night

[1:51:30] received an e-mail from a

[1:51:31] lobbyist condo request

[1:51:32] information from the

[1:51:34] governor's Office of Policy

[1:51:35] and Budget Pertaining to the

[1:51:36] fire rescue station. Number 5,

[1:51:37] legislative appropriation

[1:51:39] funding request that project

[1:51:40] is including this in its

[1:51:41] proposed budget, an amount of

[1:51:43] 1 million dollars and spoke to

[1:51:44] this morning about respond a

[1:51:45] request and we're going to be

[1:51:46] doing. That's possible getting

[1:51:48] answers back to the that lets

[1:51:49] players and the report

[1:51:52] question. What was the date of

[1:51:57] the training session APRIL.

[1:52:01] 25th, APRIL 25th. Thank sir.

[1:52:02] What time going to start

[1:52:05] around 5 o'clock Thursday

[1:52:06] night and then we'll but the

[1:52:06] conflict sir, I didn't have a

[1:52:10] lot Say 7. We kind of work

[1:52:11] with Something the school, one

[1:52:12] of worst kind of you in the

[1:52:14] facility. So I know there's

[1:52:15] possibly some conflicts have

[1:52:16] heard about what time of day

[1:52:17] is. They want to start around

[1:52:20] 5 o'clock. And we got the

[1:52:21] Common Council spring Socials

[1:52:28] at night as well. So anything

[1:52:34] else? Sir. Thank you, MR. Roy

[1:52:36] >> Missed an ace just a few

[1:52:36] events coming up to make sure

[1:52:37] you have on your calendars.

[1:52:41] The first is a series of

[1:52:42] Easter events this coming

[1:52:43] Saturday. The library will be

[1:52:44] hosting an Easter event and

[1:52:45] collaboration with the

[1:52:47] Education Foundation from 11

[1:52:49] to one. And then we're going

[1:52:50] to invite all those families

[1:52:51] to go out to Kiwanis Park that

[1:52:52] afternoon at 2 o'clock for

[1:52:54] Parks and Recs, Easter Egg

[1:52:56] Hunt. We're really excited

[1:52:57] that they're bringing that

[1:52:57] back to the community on the

[1:52:59] 12th right on the 12. Yes,

[1:53:01] sir. And then Easter Sunday,

[1:53:03] the Kiwanis and Rotary clubs

[1:53:05] are partnering up for Easter

[1:53:05] breakfast. So I would like to

[1:53:07] invite all of you there. The

[1:53:08] public can get tickets at the

[1:53:11] sheriff's office or online.

[1:53:13] And then just a quick update

[1:53:14] that I know you all are aware,

[1:53:15] but so that the public is

[1:53:17] aware as well. We have a new

[1:53:18] public information officer

[1:53:21] joining us on county staff.

[1:53:21] He's not in the room right

[1:53:25] now. He's downstairs working

[1:53:26] he's realized how big of a job

[1:53:28] it is. So we're keeping pretty

[1:53:30] busy, but the public will see

[1:53:30] some additional things coming

[1:53:31] out on social media and some

[1:53:34] some new things. We're really

[1:53:35] excited. The staff are really

[1:53:36] excited. So he's he's hit the

[1:53:39] ground running and then just

[1:53:41] to wrap up last week, adding

[1:53:41] to the chance to give your

[1:53:45] comments. But the tourism

[1:53:46] department traveled up to

[1:53:47] Washington, D.C., a couple of

[1:53:48] weeks ago for a travel

[1:53:52] represented very well up there

[1:53:53] and were able to see a pretty

[1:53:55] big increase in our traffic to

[1:53:57] our website and app directly

[1:53:58] following that. So it was a

[1:54:03] really beneficial time for us.

[1:54:04] Happy that MARCH is over

[1:54:04] tourism department can get a

[1:54:05] little bit of a break in

[1:54:10] APRIL. The cut your website,

[1:54:14] but they can't comment. Have

[1:54:14] you had to get your leader?

[1:54:16] Whatever without. We've got

[1:54:20] some site just some of our

[1:54:22] thanks. We have to. Because of

[1:54:23] the head-to-head to handle

[1:54:24] that we website so for

[1:54:27] tourism. So we're looking at

[1:54:28] analytics for the tourism so

[1:54:29] we can see how many people are

[1:54:30] visiting our website to get

[1:54:32] more information about Shelby

[1:54:34] County. So the tourism website

[1:54:36] slightly different from the

[1:54:37] county website. You can access

[1:54:37] visit. Okeechobee County dot

[1:54:40] com dot com. Or you can

[1:54:41] download Download our app on

[1:54:43] your phone for visit

[1:54:45] Okeechobee so we can see the

[1:54:46] analytics of how many people

[1:54:46] are downloading, how many

[1:54:48] people are visiting with their

[1:54:50] clicking on. There's no

[1:54:51] commenting options on either

[1:54:53] of those sites. It's just

[1:54:55] purely information. They can

[1:54:56] send us an e-mail through that

[1:54:57] that they can't publicly

[1:54:58] comment.

[1:55:05] >> she's got typewriter.

[1:55:07] Anything is set MISTER De

[1:55:16] Janeiro. CHAIRMAN

[1:55:17] Commissioners.

[1:55:19] >> Brief update on what's

[1:55:20] going You already heard of

[1:55:20] some of tease update. We

[1:55:22] talked about that a minute ago

[1:55:22] on some repairs that need to

[1:55:26] be done for 41. They are also

[1:55:28] the process of wrapping up

[1:55:33] state road, 70 east us 41

[1:55:34] They're gonna be doing repairs

[1:55:34] and stuff over the next couple

[1:55:36] of weeks. But they got the

[1:55:38] right to see 70's Canyon State

[1:55:39] Road, 70 east of 4.41. To

[1:55:45] fill. 41. From 4.41. To 17.

[1:55:48] Okay. It my pot the other

[1:55:50] section is complete. To the

[1:55:57] West so with that, also on our

[1:55:58] side. So we had been in the

[1:56:00] process and we are just about

[1:56:01] wrapped up with renewing all

[1:56:04] of the engineering continuing

[1:56:05] engineering services

[1:56:06] contracts. Everybody's except

[1:56:09] that the one-year extension.

[1:56:09] So we now able to continue to

[1:56:14] do work for the next year. Now

[1:56:15] been slow. If you recall that

[1:56:16] we got h in gp Grant a while

[1:56:21] ago. And we got $100,000 to

[1:56:24] start design work for that.

[1:56:28] We're looking at most likely

[1:56:29] doing master drainage for

[1:56:32] Berman Road for that Hmg grant

[1:56:33] money if there are other

[1:56:35] thoughts than that, open to

[1:56:37] it. But we have to spend that

[1:56:39] money in the next year. And

[1:56:40] I'm thinking that if we get a

[1:56:43] head start on the master

[1:56:44] drainage system for all of

[1:56:45] Burma, Road from State Road,

[1:56:47] 70 down to 7.10, it would be

[1:56:48] well used to use that money

[1:56:52] for that. And that's just the

[1:56:52] design portion. Well,

[1:56:54] hopefully we could use So when

[1:56:55] we do get eroded, prove would

[1:56:56] be ahead of the game. Yes,

[1:56:57] sir, that that's that's the

[1:57:03] thought process behind that.

[1:57:03] >> Storm, one of an ability

[1:57:04] study. We have come to an

[1:57:05] agreement on the additional

[1:57:11] scope to include the city

[1:57:12] >> the dp has the revised

[1:57:14] contract under review.

[1:57:16] >> Once they're ok with but it

[1:57:17] up that vice contract, it'll

[1:57:21] come back to you for approval.

[1:57:22] And yes, it was less than the

[1:57:25] amount that was originally

[1:57:26] given Lofton Road. They're

[1:57:28] continuing to work on the 100%

[1:57:29] plants and still hoped to have

[1:57:34] things ready for midsummer

[1:57:36] forbidding stormwater master

[1:57:38] plan. The we should be

[1:57:41] bringing you the updated

[1:57:42] corrected. Revised report to

[1:57:43] you in the next 30 to 45 days.

[1:57:47] We're hoping scheduled the

[1:57:47] additional survey work that

[1:57:48] was being done on the canals

[1:57:51] is about 95% complete. Now and

[1:57:52] we hope to have the mapping to

[1:57:53] us in the next 30 days for

[1:57:56] review. With that, those my

[1:57:57] updates for today. And if you

[1:58:00] have other questions. Anyone

[1:58:00] have.

[1:58:01] >> Anything you need from

[1:58:04] engineer. MR. CHAIRMAN. Yes,

[1:58:06] sir. This MAY fall under your.

[1:58:12] Their purview. Finished the.

[1:58:14] Partnership that we were doing

[1:58:16] uh repair those rows behind

[1:58:20] bills. Many from.

[1:58:21] >> So I I can answer that real

[1:58:25] quickly for commissioner. So,

[1:58:28] yeah, we're we're working with

[1:58:29] the attorneys office has

[1:58:30] provided us. Submitted it back

[1:58:31] with the are with the

[1:58:31] additional information that

[1:58:34] was needed for the inner local

[1:58:34] agreement. With But

[1:58:37] construction is already

[1:58:38] commencing for that. So we're

[1:58:41] already working through it. We

[1:58:42] had the funds in the budget to

[1:58:44] go ahead and move the project

[1:58:45] for. We did not want to remove

[1:58:46] allies as working through

[1:58:48] getting the board's approval

[1:58:49] and the ou a board approval to

[1:58:53] good get that. But we're at

[1:58:54] the end of that agreement, of

[1:58:55] course, is that they've done a

[1:58:56] great job, getting that

[1:58:57] information and get it right

[1:59:00] back to So there and had a few

[1:59:02] items Zach it asked for. And

[1:59:03] we're hoping to have that

[1:59:03] ready to come to our board.

[1:59:06] And do board for the next

[1:59:06] meeting? Thank you very much.

[1:59:09] Yes, sir. Nothing else. Thank

[1:59:15] you, Appreciate it. Okay.

[1:59:22] MADAM Attorney. It's not his

[1:59:30] tone. It.

[1:59:32] >> At this time we do not have

[1:59:34] an update, although I do

[1:59:34] believe there is a topic that

[1:59:36] commissioner Burrows is going

[1:59:36] to raise later that we'll talk

[1:59:41] about. I think you have. We

[1:59:42] just love working with you

[1:59:43] all, but that's all we have.

[1:59:46] Thank you

[1:59:50] >> And a brand what you needed

[1:59:50] than in the elevation. Second

[1:59:55] say I think if I could get a

[2:00:02] booster here, sometimes when

[2:00:05] hoping gets down for obvious

[2:00:11] reasons. You've been

[2:00:12] Commissioner Sumner. I really

[2:00:14] don't have anything keep being

[2:00:16] called about that same pothole

[2:00:17] ad.

[2:00:18] >> Rookie mistake of telling

[2:00:19] Yeah, it's got that taken care

[2:00:23] of. Clearly we're still

[2:00:23] working on it so that that

[2:00:26] was. That was a kind of a

[2:00:31] pressing one a quick note and

[2:00:32] some of you already know this.

[2:00:34] My beds in the hospital. Don't

[2:00:36] really think there's anything

[2:00:38] to majorly wrong. I just got

[2:00:40] back the country last night at

[2:00:42] midnight. And soon as we break

[2:00:43] from go over there. Some might

[2:00:43] have some more from

[2:00:44] information we come back at

[2:00:48] one. Served. But to keep him

[2:00:49] in your thoughts and prayers

[2:00:50] and it's pretty much all I

[2:00:52] have. Commissioner. Good for

[2:00:59] it. All right. I have. Young

[2:01:00] couple that contacted me.

[2:01:07] About. They had a young child

[2:01:08] passed away in child was

[2:01:09] buried in the evergreen

[2:01:11] cemetery.

[2:01:12] >> And they called me and

[2:01:13] asked me about the possibility

[2:01:16] of a private cemetery at your

[2:01:21] house to move 2. Move child

[2:01:23] evergreen to own mother used

[2:01:25] to be years ago. You could

[2:01:26] have a private cemetery on

[2:01:27] your private property where I

[2:01:30] thought that that had covid

[2:01:31] nixed by the state several

[2:01:32] years ago. But said I try to

[2:01:35] find out what the what the

[2:01:36] opportunity is is for that.

[2:01:42] So. Nothing in a hurry. But of

[2:01:42] just we're having to look into

[2:01:47] it and circle back, right?

[2:01:48] That's that's a loss. Early

[2:01:48] currently our land

[2:01:49] Development, land development

[2:01:50] regulations, expression

[2:01:53] prohibit that.

[2:01:54] >> So take if you want

[2:01:54] consider at to change land

[2:01:55] development regulations with

[2:01:58] you can't do that anymore. And

[2:01:59] thought like maybe 20 years

[2:02:01] ago that it. Had changed to

[2:02:03] where you couldn't do that

[2:02:05] anymore. But think the young

[2:02:08] lady approach me about it and

[2:02:09] I said that I would bring it

[2:02:11] up see if there is any any

[2:02:13] path. 2 being able to do that

[2:02:19] for him. So. So I guess

[2:02:20] there's a path that we have to

[2:02:21] change the land development

[2:02:24] regulations to do it.

[2:02:24] >> chair also, I think we

[2:02:26] would need to look into laws

[2:02:30] to make sure that there. I

[2:02:30] don't MADAM Attorney said she

[2:02:34] would okay. She would research

[2:02:40] Get back to us we are going

[2:02:45] tell I'm sure are.

[2:02:46] Administrative staff is going

[2:02:47] to be very happy with the new

[2:02:47] air-conditioners where they

[2:02:48] don't have any more problems

[2:02:51] with their typewriters slide

[2:03:00] rules. So that That's going to

[2:03:03] be nice. You're out of

[2:03:04] >> don't to dip Don't tease

[2:03:10] me. Think we meet before the

[2:03:11] next before Easter. So few

[2:03:12] don't have Easter to

[2:03:15] everybody. Commissioner to

[2:03:24] Carlo. This this month has

[2:03:24] actually been a little slow

[2:03:25] compared to last month.

[2:03:27] >> think everybody would

[2:03:33] agree, but of. I have a to me,

[2:03:35] my wife. We have a lot of

[2:03:35] kids. A lot 7 children

[2:03:39] combined. The 19

[2:03:40] grandchildren. One on the way

[2:03:46] on tv. So make a long story

[2:03:49] short. I spend a lot of time.

[2:03:50] High school baseball last

[2:03:50] season between one of my

[2:03:53] grandkids and my something

[2:03:56] coach. And then we have kids

[2:03:56] playing in the U.S. Air that

[2:03:59] play the ball. Last Saturday.

[2:04:04] My church brought. Group of

[2:04:05] Spanish and turns that wanted

[2:04:06] to do something. Our

[2:04:09] community. So we took them out

[2:04:10] too soccer fields and they

[2:04:13] cook hot dogs handed I thought

[2:04:15] that with the church and by

[2:04:18] and I was amazed at how many

[2:04:21] of our kids play soccer. I

[2:04:24] could not believe that. Going

[2:04:26] in. I encourage everybody to

[2:04:31] do this cra. And the different

[2:04:33] programs. We have so many kids

[2:04:38] that our athletic programs. I

[2:04:39] the hope of the whole soccer

[2:04:41] field areas full. And the

[2:04:42] other night at the ball. I had

[2:04:49] to walk. A couple football

[2:04:50] field length. Someone to say

[2:04:54] 1000 feet or better from where

[2:04:56] I parked. I mean, we we really

[2:04:56] have a lot of kids

[2:04:58] participating in our sports

[2:05:00] programs. My hats off to the

[2:05:02] volunteers as I was on a cra

[2:05:03] boards for years. And I know

[2:05:07] what it takes who does Matt

[2:05:08] Campbell and his assistant at

[2:05:09] the soccer field, the Nissan

[2:05:12] and they all a full plate. I'm

[2:05:16] sure. Thank you very much.

[2:05:17] Commissioner. Boost. Thank

[2:05:19] you, MR. CHAIRMAN

[2:05:20] >> we're going to talk but

[2:05:27] watermelons. So I visit from

[2:05:28] resident on south with 60. So

[2:05:33] the drive yesterday. Concerned

[2:05:33] with the trucks and everything

[2:05:37] would be potentially would be

[2:05:37] going up and down the roof or

[2:05:38] watermelon season and

[2:05:43] eccentric, And so during a

[2:05:44] court that during the course

[2:05:45] of the conversation, it was

[2:05:45] explained to him about the

[2:05:47] right to farm act that they

[2:05:48] didn't believe that that

[2:05:51] applied to that. So. The

[2:05:53] attorney noted has been good

[2:05:54] enough to supply information

[2:05:59] to this this morning. It Zach

[2:06:00] articulate what we have found

[2:06:03] out so far what we can do

[2:06:04] order to helped out not only

[2:06:05] the southwest 67 drive people

[2:06:09] but help ourselves out, but

[2:06:12] not but not too, too. By late

[2:06:15] in the right to work right to

[2:06:16] Farm Act. You didn't go get

[2:06:18] your free watermelon Is in the

[2:06:21] red But if we want

[2:06:21] >> is that with slide rules

[2:06:26] and everything too. Is slide

[2:06:26] rules in the typewriters? Is

[2:06:27] that the same place? Now you

[2:06:31] MAY kick things up. A slide.

[2:06:34] Thank you, commissioner.

[2:06:34] Essentially this set up giving

[2:06:35] everyone a moment at the end

[2:06:37] of the road, honest. They did

[2:06:44] a Senate. I missed it. Go out

[2:06:46] today. That's raising your

[2:06:47] home, we're making to get your

[2:06:48] snow. That's to get my what

[2:06:50] the heck to Go ahead. David.

[2:06:51] Thank you, MISTER Chair, thank

[2:06:54] commissioner. So.

[2:06:58] >> Under the county code, the

[2:07:00] regulation of a commercial

[2:07:01] packing house is under a

[2:07:04] special exception use.

[2:07:06] >> Our code and state statutes

[2:07:07] do not provide definitions for

[2:07:10] a commercial packing house. So

[2:07:16] we looked to. The case law and

[2:07:16] what we have found is that a

[2:07:21] commercial packing house.

[2:07:24] Receiving unpacking produce

[2:07:25] from.

[2:07:25] >> Multiple sources from

[2:07:26] multiple properties for

[2:07:29] multiple owners.

[2:07:30] >> Whereas in as defined under

[2:07:36] an agricultural use. Packing

[2:07:36] operation is incidental to

[2:07:39] agriculture. It's part of the

[2:07:40] you know, that general

[2:07:43] practice and if the packing is

[2:07:45] occurring from a single

[2:07:46] source. You know, you're

[2:07:51] packing your own produce. Then

[2:07:53] that is falls under

[2:07:54] agriculture, which falls under

[2:07:57] the right to farm Act. So we

[2:07:59] are largely preempted from

[2:08:03] regulation of those practices.

[2:08:05] However, the county does have

[2:08:07] jurisdiction to regulate its

[2:08:10] roads. So the county MAY

[2:08:12] establish speed limits limits

[2:08:18] on weights of vehicles.

[2:08:19] >> Establishments hours under

[2:08:20] which certain vehicles are

[2:08:22] certain traffic control.

[2:08:27] >> Maneuvers. Occur on a road.

[2:08:28] So these are all options that

[2:08:32] the county has in order to

[2:08:33] regulate the traffic moving to

[2:08:37] and from. Any facility along

[2:08:40] any road. It just has to be

[2:08:41] across the board rate. You cut

[2:08:44] it. On the regulate the trucks

[2:08:45] going to the packing house.

[2:08:46] You have to regulate all

[2:08:50] trucks. Of a similar kind that

[2:08:51] are moving on that road in a

[2:08:56] similar way.

[2:08:56] >> So what I what I was

[2:08:59] suggesting to the board this

[2:09:00] is like the preemptive strike

[2:09:01] because know that even were

[2:09:01] out there doing watermelons

[2:09:06] right now. So I'm suggesting

[2:09:07] to the board that number one,

[2:09:09] you can't we can't do anything

[2:09:10] in terms of the packing House

[2:09:12] concept because single source.

[2:09:14] But we can control the speed

[2:09:19] limit on the roads and the

[2:09:21] week variations because one of

[2:09:21] those bridges out there is one

[2:09:22] of the bridges that we have

[2:09:23] severe issue or is it an issue

[2:09:27] with? It's on list of bridges

[2:09:30] Stephen I talked about we so I

[2:09:31] think what we've issue should

[2:09:33] be doing is making sure that

[2:09:34] there's a speed limit

[2:09:37] limitations of these trucks. I

[2:09:38] don't think you can limit the

[2:09:40] number of See how you did it.

[2:09:42] You can't you could do

[2:09:44] anything but you can't manage

[2:09:44] it. And so I don't want to do

[2:09:45] something you can't manage to

[2:09:48] make some sense to me. But I

[2:09:49] do think that you can manage

[2:09:51] the time. That the trucks can

[2:09:55] run on the road. Right?

[2:09:55] Because you got mining trucks

[2:09:57] and you've got watermelon

[2:10:00] trucks. So you managed to tie

[2:10:00] mean the time in which they

[2:10:05] can run. Like for

[2:10:06] hypothetically a 7 o'clock to

[2:10:07] 5 o'clock or 7 o'clock, 77 or

[2:10:09] whatever it MAY be. I think

[2:10:13] you can manage that. In terms

[2:10:15] thank you. Manage the number

[2:10:16] of trips, the budget So what I

[2:10:17] do want to do is meant to put

[2:10:19] something in place that you

[2:10:20] can't manage. That's that's

[2:10:23] not that's not feasible. But I

[2:10:25] do believe we can manage the

[2:10:26] hours of operation on that

[2:10:28] road. And how could what would

[2:10:31] juror? Did you have a police

[2:10:35] officer now? They are.

[2:10:36] >> Phone over the running at a

[2:10:38] different time. How would put

[2:10:39] that last year? They can. We

[2:10:42] did that last year. Already.

[2:10:43] >> up. What I'm proposing is

[2:10:43] nothing more than what we did

[2:10:45] last year at ad from 7 o'clock

[2:10:48] to something number. We've

[2:10:49] already done desk before we

[2:10:50] did the right to Farm Act.

[2:10:51] Under the right format. I

[2:10:55] don't. I think you can do

[2:10:56] speed limits, but I don't

[2:10:56] think teach you can do limit

[2:10:57] Haitians on that. But

[2:11:01] >> first of all, this demands

[2:11:02] finished when does his crop.

[2:11:03] He's going to get another

[2:11:04] piece of property purchased

[2:11:05] and he's gonna go go into this

[2:11:08] year. You know, he's going to

[2:11:09] do is giving away the one of

[2:11:12] those not I thought you're not

[2:11:13] getting know he'll no, no, no.

[2:11:14] There been a good neighbor. By

[2:11:16] the time to get some benefit.

[2:11:18] In a season debut? 6 weeks and

[2:11:22] it's gone. And that's just a

[2:11:26] suggestion. Mean, I want to

[2:11:27] work with you because I know

[2:11:29] you get I got complaints

[2:11:30] there. So that's all I'm

[2:11:32] saying is I think we should

[2:11:33] institute the same thing we

[2:11:34] had last year and not do

[2:11:35] anything different with prove

[2:11:37] we could do that and the right

[2:11:38] to Farm Act. You had to pull

[2:11:39] no word right? Far might than

[2:11:41] anything to do with the roads.

[2:11:43] >> But if it does,

[2:11:44] commissioner read the farm to

[2:11:46] market Road has has a of farm

[2:11:48] to market road. It is

[2:11:49] commissioners farm market long

[2:11:50] before it was ever subdivision

[2:11:52] was a collector road. Is that

[2:11:53] the same thing? Well, it could

[2:11:55] be the same thing, but that

[2:11:57] Rove was constructed to go to

[2:11:59] the ranch, right? And I think

[2:12:00] has. I read the contract

[2:12:02] yesterday or the agreement

[2:12:02] from the attorney, which I

[2:12:06] will let them read. I think

[2:12:07] there are some things in there

[2:12:08] will definitely change thought

[2:12:09] process that has not been

[2:12:13] done. But we're still talking

[2:12:14] about 6 weeks from now. It's a

[2:12:18] thing of the past. Yeah, I

[2:12:19] just put that out all I'm

[2:12:20] looking for right now is I

[2:12:22] just said. I didn't know the

[2:12:22] illnesses because I haven't

[2:12:27] paid attention to it. But what

[2:12:29] we did last year, that's all

[2:12:30] I'm suggesting is just get

[2:12:32] what we had to pull off last

[2:12:34] year because it was a miracle

[2:12:36] that we didn't pull off last

[2:12:36] year. We did to MR. Chair, I

[2:12:39] MAY

[2:12:42] >> I believe there was there

[2:12:44] is an issue related to.

[2:12:47] Permitting of the use and

[2:12:48] there's a separate issue

[2:12:50] related to use of the road. My

[2:12:51] understanding is that road is

[2:12:57] a county. Maintained road. And

[2:12:58] because it is under our

[2:12:58] jurisdiction, we have the

[2:13:01] ability to regulate things

[2:13:05] like speed limit weight limit,

[2:13:07] even hours of use or hours

[2:13:10] that is open to certain types

[2:13:14] of traffic. If it has a a

[2:13:14] reasonable relation to the

[2:13:15] health safety and public

[2:13:20] welfare. Certainly related to

[2:13:20] speed limits and weight

[2:13:24] limits. I would. Want to have

[2:13:25] through the ministry or make

[2:13:27] sure that we're working county

[2:13:28] engineer to make sure that

[2:13:30] those are supported. With a

[2:13:34] rational basis. But as the as

[2:13:37] the county maintain road, we

[2:13:40] have a large degree of

[2:13:41] regulatory authority, Mr

[2:13:44] Chair. But this meant

[2:13:45] Commissioner David, what they

[2:13:45] continue. Police just some

[2:13:46] things as you're discussing

[2:13:47] this, you might want to

[2:13:48] consider so.

[2:13:48] >> We can regulate by

[2:13:56] category. But not by business.

[2:13:59] So if you say, you know, Fi

[2:14:00] heckles, veteran or trucks,

[2:14:01] you can even do trucks. The

[2:14:03] category.

[2:14:04] >> over 5,000 pounds, whatever

[2:14:10] the pounds or whatever.

[2:14:10] Permitted can have those type

[2:14:12] of signs, you can have signs

[2:14:14] that say that limit hours that

[2:14:18] it wouldn't be just 4. The

[2:14:20] watermelon. It would be for

[2:14:21] the agger, you know, the other

[2:14:21] business that's down there as

[2:14:22] well. So just something you

[2:14:23] want to consider, you know,

[2:14:28] with the timing. Whenever you

[2:14:30] place this on the road. Also,

[2:14:31] whatever sign each needs to go

[2:14:34] through our county engineer to

[2:14:36] make sure we're in accordance

[2:14:37] with in utc, dea regulations.

[2:14:37] And of course, we also want to

[2:14:40] provide that language to the

[2:14:41] sheriff's department because

[2:14:42] they are the ones that enforce

[2:14:45] the sign each so.

[2:14:46] >> And that if I MAY, MISTER

[2:14:49] Chair. You said you can't do

[2:14:53] it to a specific Ty. There's a

[2:14:54] lot of people in that

[2:14:55] residential area who MAY be

[2:14:55] hooking up to their horse

[2:14:58] trailer. And pulling out of

[2:14:58] their 5 o'clock in the

[2:15:02] morning. Include my brother

[2:15:03] that lives on that road.

[2:15:03] Nothing route horse, but his

[2:15:07] wife, Kim. So if you say,

[2:15:09] well, we can't have any ag

[2:15:11] trucks on the road. Before 7

[2:15:14] and after 7. All those

[2:15:15] residents, there's a pile of

[2:15:19] horse people. Up and down that

[2:15:22] road and there's a All right.

[2:15:23] And there's also straight

[2:15:23] years ago back over the dirt

[2:15:24] road to there's rather than

[2:15:26] Sarah. So we.

[2:15:27] >> And I don't think the issue

[2:15:30] we ran into last year. We

[2:15:33] didn't have a problem with of

[2:15:34] putting time on when they go

[2:15:38] in and out of Are up times of

[2:15:41] operation for That was a great

[2:15:42] an agreement.

[2:15:44] >> both parties signed and MR.

[2:15:46] Lewis had to go back and

[2:15:48] apologized. I'm trying to be

[2:15:48] controversial delays, but he

[2:15:49] had go back and said that was

[2:15:51] not the case. And had to

[2:15:52] retract it.

[2:16:03] >> Did you retract that? It

[2:16:03] got complicated. Yes or I did

[2:16:07] not. Put anything in writing

[2:16:08] retracting the temporary use

[2:16:11] permit. In JUNE. We had

[2:16:12] discussions, but I not been to

[2:16:14] writing retracting

[2:16:15] >> All right. So here, so this

[2:16:16] to make this overly

[2:16:20] complicated. I think you've

[2:16:21] got coast. You've got customer

[2:16:24] complaints and we got another

[2:16:25] issue about I want the

[2:16:31] attorney to review. Agreement

[2:16:32] because there's things in

[2:16:34] agreement have not been done.

[2:16:35] And that's been brought.

[2:16:36] That's now that's been brought

[2:16:37] to my attention. Salted the

[2:16:40] Chopin or what? And you're

[2:16:44] talking about that and 90. You

[2:16:44] show them. I the money

[2:16:45] because, okay, good. That

[2:16:48] operation. Not the yes, not

[2:16:49] the head to the peace, but

[2:16:50] this is things over-all I'm

[2:16:53] trying to do is clear up. Some

[2:16:54] controversy before it gets out

[2:16:55] of hand. So want her to take

[2:16:58] that. A document. Let the

[2:17:01] attorney review it. And so

[2:17:02] let's make sure that we don't

[2:17:03] have a controversy that we

[2:17:04] don't I think we already have

[2:17:10] enough of those. All right. So

[2:17:12] the point is that we can't

[2:17:13] control it, if you want to

[2:17:15] control, then almost done that

[2:17:16] we're just going to have to

[2:17:17] come go with the complaints

[2:17:17] and that based on the board

[2:17:19] doesn't want to control. Said

[2:17:20] that So what I'm hearing, MR.

[2:17:24] CHAIRMAN. I would suggest

[2:17:31] that. Your hours of operations

[2:17:32] with just daylight hours, but

[2:17:35] usually. 70's to 7 ish. I

[2:17:36] mean, that's and it's easy

[2:17:38] enough to know if daylight are

[2:17:40] not outside stuff. It's 7

[2:17:41] o'clock or

[2:17:41] >> 12 minutes till 7 and just

[2:17:46] daylight hours. And 2

[2:17:47] commercial vehicles. And that

[2:17:52] would take away your euro.

[2:17:55] Horse trailers does rodeo

[2:17:56] yesterday has shown the motion

[2:17:58] there commercial commercial

[2:17:58] that without a dot number on

[2:18:01] it to be commercial. Check a

[2:18:03] driver's license. Omens of

[2:18:06] cdl. So but right. You're

[2:18:10] telling me if I woke up to.

[2:18:10] >> It didn't have enough snag

[2:18:11] it. But I hope my into my

[2:18:14] truck. But a load of hay on

[2:18:14] and got to have commercial

[2:18:16] license.

[2:18:18] >> Well, no, you have to in

[2:18:21] Georgia, but in head and 7,000

[2:18:23] pounds, well, I don't I

[2:18:24] wouldn't have to cut that

[2:18:26] Biggs it because of home. My

[2:18:26] right of for you. I've got a

[2:18:28] habit that they just hadn't.

[2:18:29] >> Presentation on that

[2:18:31] yesterday. Theory, the

[2:18:32] >> watermelon truck for

[2:18:33] homegrown product. But the

[2:18:36] shell trucks or not. Well, but

[2:18:38] the watermelon trucks coming

[2:18:38] out.

[2:18:43] >> The semis that are loaded.

[2:18:44] Owner-operators, not the old

[2:18:45] the buses they have caught up

[2:18:46] of the services. Do you know?

[2:18:50] It's a 2 pronged problem?

[2:18:57] Well, more Well, I I don't and

[2:18:58] stand corrected if am. But I

[2:19:03] didn't think folks, Boehner,

[2:19:03] horse trailers also forces to

[2:19:05] the rodeo or go work

[2:19:06] elsewhere. What have you? I

[2:19:07] didn't think they would run

[2:19:10] afoul of any. Dot regulations

[2:19:11] where they could be considered

[2:19:13] commercial.

[2:19:14] >> This isn't a dot

[2:19:20] regulation. This is. Proposed

[2:19:22] county but ended. According to

[2:19:24] our attorney, what's good for

[2:19:24] the goose is good for the

[2:19:26] gander. So if you're shutting

[2:19:27] down the watermelon truck to

[2:19:32] shut down counter show that

[2:19:32] let go on record for I

[2:19:35] >> pro farmer. Probe Provost,

[2:19:39] trailer pro watermelon.

[2:19:40] >> I was just trying to find a

[2:19:42] happy medium to because I'm

[2:19:43] pro.

[2:19:44] >> Residents of that area

[2:19:48] that, you know, they don't

[2:19:49] want watermelon truck lumber

[2:19:53] o'clock at night but that

[2:19:53] makes that But then again, I

[2:19:58] can't see it from my house.

[2:19:59] All right. What's your

[2:20:00] suggestion, commissioner?

[2:20:01] Well, my suggestion is if

[2:20:03] board doesn't want to do any

[2:20:05] type of of restrictions on the

[2:20:07] watermelon truck. So in terms

[2:20:08] of hours.

[2:20:09] >> The news does it for us to

[2:20:10] do Your discovery, this letter

[2:20:12] run just the way it is and

[2:20:12] we'll deal with the

[2:20:20] complaints. Go ahead that.

[2:20:21] >> I understand what her

[2:20:22] mental also come into this

[2:20:25] neighborhood. Great. Yes,

[2:20:26] They're not grown. They're

[2:20:27] right. Because I know that we

[2:20:31] had drilled wells in that area

[2:20:32] and it is set up for farming.

[2:20:33] There's probably 20 a bench

[2:20:37] will for their so. For

[2:20:38] another, it's good that ranch

[2:20:42] could, you know, cut side.

[2:20:45] Produce a or be formed at one

[2:20:46] point. So I mean, could be

[2:20:47] more to it than just what

[2:20:48] we've got going on.

[2:20:52] >> Just just saying.

[2:20:55] >> Much just and if you don't

[2:20:55] want, if you don't want to put

[2:20:56] any restrictions on the route

[2:20:58] would just deal with deal with

[2:21:01] complaints.

[2:21:03] >> admission, MR. Chair, if I

[2:21:07] MAY, I just want to.

[2:21:08] >> That.

[2:21:09] >> If it's not the will of the

[2:21:12] board to regulate additional

[2:21:14] option that MAY or MAY not

[2:21:15] address some of the resident

[2:21:17] complaints could be related to

[2:21:18] speed limit. I'm not aware of

[2:21:19] what the current speed limit

[2:21:23] is, but if it if it's lowered

[2:21:26] to say 25 miles per hour, that

[2:21:28] MAY help alleviate some of the

[2:21:28] complaints, I believe related

[2:21:31] to maybe noise. Just as an

[2:21:36] additional suggestion.

[2:21:36] >> And look into this Trucks

[2:21:38] are going to slow for most

[2:21:39] people think that Not going to

[2:21:40] tell us about the engineer

[2:21:42] that one. I think.

[2:21:45] >> On that when we MAY need a

[2:21:46] traffic study and then she

[2:21:47] nears shaking his head. Yes,

[2:21:50] if it back and that's normally

[2:21:51] aiming their state laws for 25

[2:21:52] miles per hour. You know, in

[2:21:54] your neighborhood center. But

[2:21:56] once you get on to a collector

[2:21:57] road and this is probably

[2:22:00] considered collect collector

[2:22:02] road, then there'll have to be

[2:22:03] traffic studies. All right. So

[2:22:04] let's eliminate the red tape.

[2:22:05] Because number one, if you put

[2:22:07] a speed limit, sign out there,

[2:22:08] was go pay attention to it

[2:22:08] than I have to have the

[2:22:10] deputies out there.

[2:22:13] >> So this is like it this is

[2:22:14] collective issue that has no

[2:22:15] response to it or knew

[2:22:19] reasonable response because?

[2:22:20] >> And I even when we had

[2:22:23] hours last year.

[2:22:27] >> 7 to 7 or where it was,

[2:22:27] they still run past hours. And

[2:22:30] and we we had to tried to talk

[2:22:33] to him and they still ignored

[2:22:35] it. So it's almost like you

[2:22:35] don't have control over your

[2:22:36] dog on road, which is an

[2:22:40] aggravation to me is anybody

[2:22:42] can do whatever they want out

[2:22:43] there and it doesn't making a

[2:22:45] difference whether this

[2:22:46] residential people either.

[2:22:48] We've got huge residential

[2:22:49] communities continued that

[2:22:50] community is continuing to

[2:22:52] build. You have more have a

[2:22:55] lot of traffic out there. So I

[2:22:55] think it you were going to

[2:22:56] have to start thinking about

[2:23:01] the residents there versus.

[2:23:02] What is going on out on that

[2:23:06] for peace. One piece of

[2:23:06] property. And so if that's the

[2:23:07] case, don't want to do

[2:23:09] anything that's fine. But I

[2:23:11] want that document that I get

[2:23:12] to her. Yesterday was the was

[2:23:14] the lawsuit. I want that

[2:23:15] reviewed because he was

[2:23:16] brought up to my attention

[2:23:18] yesterday. There were there

[2:23:19] are things in there that have

[2:23:19] not been done. That should

[2:23:23] have been done. If I get a

[2:23:24] controversy based on the facts

[2:23:26] of this conversation I had

[2:23:28] yesterday, I want to nip the

[2:23:28] bud before it gets too out of

[2:23:34] hand. So that's my that's

[2:23:35] that's my only thing I have to

[2:23:36] say. But the right, I want to

[2:23:38] move on to this because I

[2:23:38] don't see any resolution to

[2:23:44] it. On your legislative just

[2:23:45] briefly state. What's going

[2:23:47] what's going to cause some

[2:23:51] problems? I we MAY have. We'll

[2:23:51] see how well term term limits

[2:23:52] passed the house yesterday.

[2:23:55] Went to the House floor. The

[2:23:56] Senate is still sitting in the

[2:23:57] first committee. It hasn't

[2:24:01] moved, which is a good thing

[2:24:05] there are with term limits

[2:24:05] potentially maybe more

[2:24:07] positive than what we

[2:24:09] anticipated. Some of the

[2:24:10] things you need to pay

[2:24:13] attention to is the charter

[2:24:14] communications is put a bill

[2:24:17] to to. If we if we have to

[2:24:20] move any facilities, broadband

[2:24:21] facilities, if you're going to

[2:24:22] do a new road project or

[2:24:26] whatever. County would be

[2:24:27] responsible for payment of

[2:24:28] that facilities had just to

[2:24:31] give me an idea the other day,

[2:24:36] just 2 more mile little about

[2:24:36] $211,000. And that does not

[2:24:37] include to the relocation of

[2:24:40] the facility. So this is

[2:24:41] something you got to start

[2:24:47] paying attention to rpc

[2:24:47] Illuminations as which is a

[2:24:52] senators that to potentially

[2:24:53] be eliminated with that. We

[2:24:55] thought that was good. But

[2:24:55] seems to have somebody put it

[2:24:57] on the oxygen and its crime

[2:25:01] started breathing again. Unity

[2:25:03] got modified to yesterday

[2:25:08] believe it's still 1, 2,

[2:25:09] 501 million, which is not too

[2:25:11] awful bad. But the issue is is

[2:25:12] a language is still there.

[2:25:15] That's detrimental to the

[2:25:16] county account that that

[2:25:18] language because basically a

[2:25:19] stipulated said we the county

[2:25:19] commissioner can go over the

[2:25:22] limit. We can negotiate over

[2:25:24] the limit and that we're

[2:25:25] trying to remove that. We

[2:25:26] don't want that. That's the

[2:25:27] trial lawyers are upset now

[2:25:30] that it went from 500 to a

[2:25:32] million. We want to make sure

[2:25:34] there are a little bit more

[2:25:34] upset taking that because

[2:25:40] detrimental for us. I did find

[2:25:43] that those those funding now

[2:25:46] for the low car. That's the

[2:25:47] new study of the reservoir.

[2:25:47] This up in Highlands County

[2:25:48] will store to Earth that has a

[2:25:53] 200,000 Square foot. That's

[2:25:55] the one for store in water

[2:25:56] above water above the ground,

[2:25:59] which I think 3 options. One

[2:26:00] is live in Florida water, but

[2:26:01] Brown one, 15 foot one, 17

[2:26:03] foot. So I don't know what the

[2:26:04] option is, lady at what they

[2:26:06] do, they do have the go ahead

[2:26:09] to purchase a land as well. As

[2:26:10] with this way. The bill went

[2:26:12] too from the Senate yesterday.

[2:26:14] 37 0 and with the House

[2:26:15] probably passed out the

[2:26:16] governor to sign be signed off

[2:26:21] on. Also have a bill that's

[2:26:23] moving pretty good. This is

[2:26:24] removing all special

[2:26:24] assessment. So we have some

[2:26:28] special assessments here. We

[2:26:29] have some lighting assessments

[2:26:32] that we have out here. It will

[2:26:34] remove all remove that from us

[2:26:35] being able to do those who

[2:26:37] will have to be go back to

[2:26:38] regular tax payer, be value

[2:26:43] revenue tax. They also have a

[2:26:44] bill to move with additional

[2:26:46] homestead for people who are

[2:26:47] rental properties. You have

[2:26:47] rental properties that have a

[2:26:49] long-term lease over 6 months.

[2:26:50] You'll be able to have

[2:26:50] homestead exemptions on those

[2:26:54] rental properties. That's a

[2:26:56] good use for Homestead it. So

[2:26:57] the other things is that

[2:26:59] they're moving pretty quickly.

[2:27:01] There's a lot of confusion in

[2:27:02] the legislature, little bit of

[2:27:05] infighting. The governor wants

[2:27:08] $1000 per homestead individual

[2:27:10] to to those folks and that

[2:27:12] that's probably not going to

[2:27:14] go. We don't think that's

[2:27:14] going to The scent of the

[2:27:18] House is doing reduction in a

[2:27:20] number of different sales

[2:27:21] taxes. Sales tax went from 6%

[2:27:25] to 5.2 5%. And then there's

[2:27:25] other taxes that are being

[2:27:26] cut, corporate tax and things

[2:27:29] of that sort. So asked

[2:27:30] administrator to start paying

[2:27:31] attention that because the

[2:27:33] reason for that is because we

[2:27:34] are going to be affected by

[2:27:37] passes and we're starting to a

[2:27:38] budget process and she needs

[2:27:39] to understand everything. It's

[2:27:44] going impact the budget. Also,

[2:27:46] those Dozier is even though we

[2:27:48] we've sent back all of our

[2:27:49] information. We do still think

[2:27:49] the rule counties are going to

[2:27:53] be affected too much. But is

[2:27:53] going to start look at the

[2:27:54] necessary and unnecessary

[2:28:01] expenses? And going to be

[2:28:02] minding Councils the like the

[2:28:04] regional Planning Council know

[2:28:05] that this is a survivor. Well,

[2:28:07] regional planning councils

[2:28:08] clear that when I told you got

[2:28:08] this started breathing air

[2:28:12] back into the building. But

[2:28:14] what I'm talking about now is

[2:28:15] that they'll be looking

[2:28:16] individual counties and look

[2:28:18] at your necessary and

[2:28:18] unnecessary expenditures. And

[2:28:20] my question is, what is the

[2:28:20] definition unnecessary

[2:28:24] expenditure? So I I think

[2:28:25] going to have a real difficult

[2:28:27] budget time this year. It's

[2:28:30] going to be very interesting.

[2:28:34] Hold onto your hat, especially

[2:28:35] when they're start to come to

[2:28:36] doing some of these bill

[2:28:37] cuttings. I think the property

[2:28:39] taxes eliminates your property

[2:28:42] tax was a media fodder that

[2:28:44] the governor put out there.

[2:28:47] For that, I think he fully

[2:28:48] understood that there was no

[2:28:48] way you can do that. That made

[2:28:49] it 51 billion dollar hole in

[2:28:52] the state of Florida. So I

[2:28:54] think they're trying to figure

[2:28:55] out what they can do to help

[2:28:56] people on their property tax

[2:28:57] right now. But wrote a letter

[2:28:58] to each one of the

[2:28:59] representatives on Saturday

[2:29:03] for specific bill and said

[2:29:05] that, you know, the polls in

[2:29:06] the state of Florida are

[2:29:06] looking for people be helped

[2:29:07] on homeowners insurance and

[2:29:08] car insurance. Car insurance

[2:29:12] is the highest in the nation.

[2:29:12] Homeowner. Sure homeowners

[2:29:16] insurance is high. And

[2:29:17] nobody's doing anything about

[2:29:18] it. But we will go after

[2:29:19] people for the county

[2:29:20] commissioners and school board

[2:29:21] people on term limits it. And

[2:29:22] that's reason. I wrote the

[2:29:25] letter and said you people are

[2:29:25] are good and going after low

[2:29:26] hanging fruit you want you

[2:29:27] don't want to deal with the

[2:29:31] tough stuff. And so on. So I

[2:29:34] get my language move it.

[2:29:35] They're not dealing with the

[2:29:39] things that's necessary and

[2:29:41] that we do with every single

[2:29:42] day there. Number Preemptions

[2:29:43] as of the other week was over.

[2:29:48] 51. And I'm not sure how pass

[2:29:48] but component mandates are

[2:29:51] continuing to fly out and

[2:29:53] collect this one with moving

[2:29:54] the broadband facilities out

[2:29:57] of the right away. I had a

[2:29:57] flippant answer the other day

[2:29:59] on the meeting with some

[2:30:03] folks. Just pave over. They

[2:30:05] go. They go bad. You dig it up

[2:30:05] and you replace that yours.

[2:30:10] You replace salt yourself. You

[2:30:12] know, me, that's that's a

[2:30:12] nose, flippant answer. But

[2:30:13] guess what, some people to

[2:30:14] say? Well, that was a good

[2:30:17] answer. But to unfortunately,

[2:30:18] you know, that that's going to

[2:30:20] come down to trying to figure

[2:30:21] out why doing this. And we're

[2:30:22] going to be quite frank

[2:30:23] charter communications has

[2:30:26] paid out bunch of checks. And

[2:30:27] so it's things point to move

[2:30:31] through it. So we have right

[2:30:31] in the middle of budget

[2:30:35] negotiations right take a

[2:30:36] look. We get to the the

[2:30:40] appropriation. How's that they

[2:30:42] are. The Senate has both of

[2:30:43] our appropriations in and they

[2:30:45] and the House only has one of

[2:30:46] the appropriations. The house

[2:30:47] does not have the fire and

[2:30:48] we're trying to push it along

[2:30:50] to get it in there. But the

[2:30:52] issue, the vice a versa, vice

[2:30:53] versa. Yeah, Senate that have

[2:30:57] it. Still working, trying to

[2:30:59] get that pushed in there

[2:31:00] because I think that that's

[2:31:04] necessary because obviously

[2:31:05] we're trying to plan for a

[2:31:06] number of homes that between

[2:31:06] MAY come in here. But we need

[2:31:10] that. The last thing is it's

[2:31:13] it's a little something since

[2:31:14] I'm the CHAIRMAN Of the board

[2:31:17] of trustees at the hospital.

[2:31:18] This come to us the other

[2:31:19] couple weeks ago, Brian asked

[2:31:24] me to talk about it. Back The

[2:31:25] people in the community, by

[2:31:26] their insurance on the

[2:31:31] marketplace. The market place

[2:31:32] receives an enhanced premium

[2:31:32] tax credit from the federal

[2:31:36] government. So that allows

[2:31:37] people to buy health insurance

[2:31:38] at a lower level. Alright,

[2:31:43] lower cost. That premium tax

[2:31:44] credit sunsets at the end of

[2:31:47] this year. So you say to

[2:31:48] yourself, what does that mean

[2:31:49] to us? Well, and in our

[2:31:53] county, there's 4,000 380

[2:31:56] people that their insurance

[2:31:57] premiums will now go up over

[2:32:04] 100 percent. So now what? So

[2:32:05] what I'm asking you I would

[2:32:06] like for the commission to

[2:32:10] write a letter and address it

[2:32:12] to Representative Franklin

[2:32:16] Senator Scott to support this

[2:32:17] enhanced premium tax credit to

[2:32:22] be reissued. A reissued by the

[2:32:24] before the end of the year.

[2:32:27] It's an says on the end 2025.

[2:32:31] But we include those centers.

[2:32:33] is glued the Senate and the

[2:32:33] House reputed Congressman

[2:32:37] Congresswoman Franklin

[2:32:38] probably do Senator, Moody and

[2:32:42] Senator Scott and can Franklin

[2:32:46] get a consensus for affair.

[2:32:47] That will get prepared Senate

[2:32:48] place to info. Appreciate all

[2:32:50] right. You for ok? Thank you,

[2:32:50] sir.

[2:32:54] >> I'd like for the you a

[2:33:01] direct around. In a straighter

[2:33:02] to come back and give this

[2:33:03] report. Did you know we've

[2:33:04] looking for that quarterly and

[2:33:09] >> when I talked to Last week

[2:33:10] week before asking about the

[2:33:12] water line you're putting in

[2:33:14] from the project south of

[2:33:16] Buckhead Ridge coming back to

[2:33:17] the tower. And he said he did

[2:33:18] not have a permit with them.

[2:33:18] He said he thinks it

[2:33:24] permitted, but with d e p

[2:33:25] >> dot. But as being in

[2:33:26] Stoughton, I don't have to go.

[2:33:28] He says they can come and

[2:33:29] connect. Dan, I don't

[2:33:29] understand that. But I would

[2:33:32] like to know more about that.

[2:33:36] Out. All the things going on.

[2:33:37] Just little amazed at that

[2:33:38] because we still haven't had a

[2:33:38] response back from Glades

[2:33:41] County how they want us to

[2:33:42] handle all the emergency

[2:33:43] management, that type of

[2:33:45] thing. So it looks like that

[2:33:46] developments going on and we

[2:33:47] don't have a solution. We have

[2:33:54] we have the but emergency in

[2:33:57] medical side covered. But the

[2:33:58] fire said of, you know, we're

[2:34:00] doing is mutual aid. Industry

[2:34:01] be so that needs to be looked

[2:34:04] at before that. They continue

[2:34:08] Think. But a half. We could

[2:34:10] come give us report about

[2:34:11] that. And then the first

[2:34:14] meeting in MAY asked we allow

[2:34:15] a company that 2 economic

[2:34:17] development group is working

[2:34:20] with. They're looking to do

[2:34:21] basically everything. We have

[2:34:24] left in industrial park except

[2:34:29] for the lots of see taxiway.

[2:34:30] 6. They looking to do a lot.

[2:34:31] They come in give they gave us

[2:34:32] presentation of the day. That

[2:34:36] was really, really, really

[2:34:37] good presentation. If the

[2:34:38] board sees is and I would hope

[2:34:39] we get get their support to

[2:34:41] continue on with the and be

[2:34:42] able to allow them to put all

[2:34:45] 6 lots in one place and we

[2:34:46] some lots that we have there

[2:34:48] now that are misaligned. But

[2:34:54] there are. It could building

[2:34:55] so we could work on all of

[2:34:56] that. The first meeting in MAY

[2:34:58] it be appreciated. Commission.

[2:34:59] Okay. With bringing that to

[2:35:04] us. Ok, I'm ok Goodness. All

[2:35:07] right. Anything else? We're

[2:35:12] All ok,

[2:35:27] we'll call the meeting order.

[2:35:40] Missed. Depend. You suggest we

[2:35:41] proceed?

[2:35:43] >> Yes, sir. So I'll just give

[2:35:48] lead into the to it. What's

[2:35:51] transpired before this? So

[2:35:52] just a little bit of

[2:35:53] background on JANUARY 15th of

[2:35:55] this year, the county

[2:35:57] advertised for a request for

[2:35:57] qualifications for

[2:35:58] professional water, quality

[2:36:02] and environmental services.

[2:36:05] The request for qualification

[2:36:05] was advertised in Okeechobee

[2:36:07] news pay for social media

[2:36:07] platform of Cherokee County

[2:36:08] Web page and the county's

[2:36:12] vendor registry. A public

[2:36:13] service evaluation committee

[2:36:16] consisting of the 2 assistant

[2:36:17] county administrators. The

[2:36:18] director of public works. The

[2:36:19] county engineer and the

[2:36:23] Capital Project manager

[2:36:24] created to review the

[2:36:25] proposals make the

[2:36:26] recommendation to the board as

[2:36:29] to the firms that were most

[2:36:30] qualified and they rank. Then

[2:36:33] at board meeting MARCH 27th,

[2:36:34] the board confirmed that they

[2:36:34] would interview the top 2

[2:36:40] ranked firms. And at 1 o'clock

[2:36:41] we have a presentation from Wg

[2:36:44] I and Todd Polk, who is

[2:36:45] director of Federal Water

[2:36:46] Management. Business

[2:36:47] Development is here for that

[2:36:50] presentation today. And then

[2:36:54] at one 45 pm or after finish

[2:36:55] with the first presentation we

[2:36:57] have consulting services and

[2:36:59] the protest. Current

[2:37:00] presentations MAY be made by

[2:37:04] Brian Roy. Each applicant is a

[2:37:05] lot of 15 minutes to make

[2:37:07] their presentation to the

[2:37:08] board. And then the board will

[2:37:10] have 30 minutes to ask

[2:37:11] questions to 30 minutes, ask

[2:37:13] questions of the applicants

[2:37:14] and have further discussion if

[2:37:19] they would like. And at this

[2:37:20] time, Sir, I'll turn it back

[2:37:22] over to you. But Wg I is the

[2:37:28] first presenter. And I said

[2:37:31] Todd was going to make so you

[2:37:32] can We haven't we have a team

[2:37:33] here. That's ok, we're going

[2:37:35] introduce everybody just a

[2:37:35] moment.

[2:37:39] >> Shouldn't seem tame. Oh,

[2:37:42] no. As All-Star. Are you ready

[2:37:43] to start Em? Our CHAIRMAN

[2:37:46] Guests are good afternoon.

[2:37:48] Good afternoon. I'm Michael

[2:37:50] Davis. And on behalf of the

[2:37:51] wga team, thank you for giving

[2:37:52] us some time this afternoon.

[2:37:52] We look forward to talking to

[2:37:54] you and your questions and I

[2:37:55] can almost assure will not

[2:37:56] need to call the police

[2:38:03] because this presentation in

[2:38:04] your rfq, there's really 2

[2:38:06] major components. Just kind of

[2:38:07] the advocacy ponitz component

[2:38:09] representing the county.

[2:38:09] Understand what's going on in

[2:38:10] the county, particularly the

[2:38:13] rich to water environment. And

[2:38:14] then there's the technical

[2:38:15] pieces of that understanding

[2:38:16] how the infrastructure all

[2:38:17] fits together. So that's kind

[2:38:19] of how we organize this today

[2:38:20] and you're going to see a

[2:38:21] theme throughout this

[2:38:24] presentation. We're going to

[2:38:24] talk about the All-Star, a

[2:38:25] team that we put together for

[2:38:29] you Okeechobee County. We're

[2:38:30] going to talk about the the

[2:38:32] bench that Wgi brings where

[2:38:32] national firm based out of

[2:38:35] West Palm Beach. And we have

[2:38:38] 6, 7, 100 resources engineer,

[2:38:39] scientist planners to be a

[2:38:42] resource for the county. We

[2:38:45] have local knowledge. We've

[2:38:46] work with the agencies that

[2:38:47] are doing things that

[2:38:48] potentially affect the county

[2:38:49] both positively and

[2:38:49] negatively. We know those

[2:38:51] agencies, many of us actually

[2:38:52] worked for those agencies at

[2:38:57] one point. We have offices

[2:38:58] throughout the state of

[2:39:00] Florida and Washington, D.C.,

[2:39:01] where you need us the most

[2:39:03] where where where brown these

[2:39:04] agencies and where they are at

[2:39:05] the center is where they have

[2:39:05] their leadership so we can

[2:39:10] reach out to them. We can. We

[2:39:11] bring unprecedented grant

[2:39:12] writing and funding support.

[2:39:13] We know that eventually as

[2:39:15] things are identified, we have

[2:39:15] to figure out a way to pay and

[2:39:16] how to help you figure out a

[2:39:17] way to pay for him. We have

[2:39:22] that on our team. Letting the

[2:39:25] public know what's going on in

[2:39:25] and affected meaningful way is

[2:39:26] really important. And

[2:39:27] obviously one of the tools we

[2:39:28] use today is our websites and

[2:39:32] we've got a really top notch

[2:39:33] website designer team on our

[2:39:34] team to help the county with

[2:39:39] that. Maybe one of the most

[2:39:39] important things are going

[2:39:40] hear about today is our track

[2:39:46] record. We have proven success

[2:39:47] with nearly 200 similar types

[2:39:49] of contracts as this one would

[2:39:51] be throughout Florida with

[2:39:52] counties with cities, state

[2:39:54] agencies and so on. We know

[2:39:55] how to do these general

[2:39:56] services contracts and

[2:39:59] successfully meet our clients.

[2:40:01] Expectations and we're ready

[2:40:01] to start. We can start

[2:40:02] tomorrow. Ready to go and help

[2:40:07] you Beecher objectives. So let

[2:40:08] me just introduce a few of our

[2:40:11] team members here. I am

[2:40:12] Michael the senior vice

[2:40:13] PRESIDENT Chief strategy

[2:40:15] officer, a wgi but prep

[2:40:17] perhaps what's more relevant

[2:40:19] as I was the former deputy

[2:40:19] assistant secretary of the

[2:40:23] Army for the Court Engineers

[2:40:24] over the quarter leading the

[2:40:25] policy and legislation for the

[2:40:26] core. I started in that agency

[2:40:27] right out of graduate school.

[2:40:29] I worked for him for 23 years.

[2:40:31] Most of that in Washington,

[2:40:32] D.C., I know the agency. I

[2:40:35] know how they operate. I know

[2:40:37] the frustrations that they

[2:40:38] impose sometimes on local

[2:40:39] communities in counties and

[2:40:40] can help work around some of

[2:40:44] that. As you know, we have

[2:40:45] Todd Polk, retired lieutenant

[2:40:46] colonel from the Jacksonville

[2:40:47] District, the Army Corps of

[2:40:47] Engineers touch been 25 years

[2:40:50] in the Army. He served as the

[2:40:52] deputy direct command or for

[2:40:54] Jacksonville. What's really

[2:40:55] important, I think is he

[2:40:56] served the South Florida

[2:40:58] region. This area. He spent

[2:41:00] his time with Jacksonville in

[2:41:01] this area working with the

[2:41:02] agencies working on projects.

[2:41:05] He knows what's going on here

[2:41:07] and he has good relationships

[2:41:07] with those agencies actually

[2:41:13] like him. He's a good guy.

[2:41:14] We're really happy that about

[2:41:15] 2 years ago, Melissa Mckinlay

[2:41:17] joined Wgi after serving 8

[2:41:18] years as a county commissioner

[2:41:21] in Palm Beach County.

[2:41:22] Melissa's had the pleasure of

[2:41:23] sitting up that the Dyess air

[2:41:25] as part of the 16 County

[2:41:27] coalition. So she is an

[2:41:27] advocate for agriculture.

[2:41:29] She's an advocate for the

[2:41:31] Glades area of the Lake area.

[2:41:34] And she'll be a great addition

[2:41:36] to you in terms of government

[2:41:37] relations and understanding

[2:41:39] what's going on in Tallahassee

[2:41:40] and Washington. On the

[2:41:44] technical side, we have John

[2:41:45] Abbott. John, is our director

[2:41:47] of Environmental Sciences. And

[2:41:48] John, we get all the planning

[2:41:48] and environmental components

[2:41:51] of this bringing in our team

[2:41:52] when we need to deal with the

[2:41:55] planning and design of

[2:41:57] environmental things. His

[2:41:58] counterpart spread over

[2:41:59] threats are vice PRESIDENT For

[2:42:00] civil Engineering? Grad has a

[2:42:01] team of about 80 civil

[2:42:06] engineers working for him and

[2:42:07] and will will he will be kind

[2:42:07] of looking at are your cip

[2:42:09] your infrastructure, your

[2:42:10] needs going forward and lead

[2:42:12] that effort. How do we pay for

[2:42:14] the stuff? Critical? I mention

[2:42:17] that. We have former state

[2:42:19] representative Michael Langton

[2:42:22] leading our grant writing team

[2:42:25] here. He has spoke your a

[2:42:26] billion and a half dollars

[2:42:27] worth of grants in Florida.

[2:42:29] Very, very successful. He's on

[2:42:30] our team. He's ready to go to

[2:42:33] help the county against

[2:42:38] funding for this. And finally,

[2:42:39] the leadership team here we

[2:42:40] have former dep Secretary Noah

[2:42:45] Valenstein. No love will lidar

[2:42:47] advocacy group as it relates

[2:42:50] to the epa and Tallahassee and

[2:42:51] he he knows obviously former

[2:42:52] secretary knows the people. He

[2:42:54] knows the rules. He knows when

[2:42:55] they're playing games and when

[2:42:57] they're not. And so no, be a

[2:42:59] great resource to our team as

[2:43:00] well. So with that

[2:43:01] introduction, I'm gonna turn

[2:43:03] it over to Colonel Polk talk a

[2:43:08] little bit about our team.

[2:43:09] Thank you very much for that.

[2:43:10] And up to my Clinton after

[2:43:11] commissioners, I'm Todd Pope.

[2:43:14] I am the

[2:43:15] >> project manager for you

[2:43:16] all. And I would be your

[2:43:18] primary point contact for the

[2:43:19] wgi team. And again, it's I'm

[2:43:20] humbled and honored to be back

[2:43:21] in these chambers and speak

[2:43:22] before you all today. You

[2:43:25] know, simply. As a as Michael

[2:43:28] mentioned, only seems like.

[2:43:29] But we are where you need us

[2:43:31] to be. Now whether it's up in

[2:43:32] Tallahassee, Jacksonville,

[2:43:35] West Palm Beach or Wash dc

[2:43:39] Wgi. We have the pulse. And we

[2:43:40] can be there. We know what's

[2:43:42] going on. You know, we're only

[2:43:43] hour and 15 minutes from here

[2:43:45] that we can be at the agency

[2:43:46] headquarters inside West Palm

[2:43:47] Beach and 15 minutes a given

[2:43:49] time. But the most

[2:43:50] importantly, though, really is

[2:43:52] a long-standing relationships

[2:43:53] that we have with the agencies

[2:43:54] and how they operate. That's

[2:43:58] going allow us to advocate.

[2:43:58] For you. And and what should

[2:43:59] county's water environment

[2:44:05] needs are? No, we are a full

[2:44:08] service from and greener ucf

[2:44:09] highlighted specific areas

[2:44:09] that were in the rfq that we

[2:44:11] have in House. Over 50 years

[2:44:15] ago. We were founded and

[2:44:15] remain headquartered. West

[2:44:17] Palm Beach starting with 3

[2:44:19] people in over going over 600

[2:44:22] today of the 60250 reside now

[2:44:24] in central and southern

[2:44:26] Florida. And, you know, we're

[2:44:26] committed Okeechobee success

[2:44:29] because we know just how

[2:44:30] interconnected the water makes

[2:44:30] us. All of us here in South

[2:44:35] Florida. You're Michael talk

[2:44:36] about the grant rant. Funny,

[2:44:37] right at our team is that by

[2:44:39] Michael Lynton, as you've

[2:44:40] heard, he's a proven record

[2:44:43] and 40 years of success,

[2:44:44] nearly 900 million dollars in

[2:44:45] the last 5 years alone. And

[2:44:46] are the oldest grant reading

[2:44:50] from and Florida? He's, you

[2:44:51] know, knows better than

[2:44:52] anyone. I to help us navigate

[2:44:53] through these rough and murky

[2:44:54] waters on the federal grant

[2:44:56] Grant Arena at this time. You

[2:45:01] know. Okeechobee County, you

[2:45:02] need an advocate, someone

[2:45:03] actively seeking and going

[2:45:04] after those one opportunities

[2:45:06] at all levels. You know,

[2:45:06] someone is ready to assist

[2:45:08] your staff and enhance or

[2:45:10] staff. Now what we know a

[2:45:11] fiscally sound county like

[2:45:14] Okeechobee, these every

[2:45:16] available dollar and who help

[2:45:16] you get And as you can see

[2:45:19] that to list the top on the

[2:45:20] right. And you know, those are

[2:45:22] those are state and federal

[2:45:24] grants that are available at

[2:45:31] this time show county. Now the

[2:45:32] cornerstone of educating

[2:45:33] improving your constituents,

[2:45:33] understanding on the county's

[2:45:35] position for water,

[2:45:36] environmental quality issues

[2:45:37] really a user friendly

[2:45:41] intuitive Web site. The

[2:45:42] website will integrate

[2:45:43] multimedia assets, incorporate

[2:45:45] search engine optimization.

[2:45:46] That's what this, you know,

[2:45:49] stands for up there, which

[2:45:51] basically helps the search

[2:45:52] engine understand your content

[2:45:53] and help you help them come to

[2:45:55] that faster. Basically. And

[2:45:56] when you type in Google, you

[2:45:57] start right in Okeechobee

[2:45:58] County just before you finish

[2:46:01] up much of the county, your

[2:46:02] Web sites pop up to the top

[2:46:03] and that's what they're going

[2:46:04] to make sure we have happened.

[2:46:04] That's what our team that we

[2:46:08] brought on. Konrad pr.

[2:46:09] Definitely one of the best in

[2:46:11] the business will be working

[2:46:11] with your staff to make sure

[2:46:14] meeting website needs just

[2:46:15] like they did Lee County and

[2:46:16] that Web plan that they

[2:46:18] developed, you know, and it's

[2:46:20] a it's a great credit to your

[2:46:21] staff there and who brought

[2:46:22] with that recommendation of

[2:46:22] for such a great website to

[2:46:24] take a look at the model. So.

[2:46:25] With that, though, I will now

[2:46:32] introduce. John at user. I'm

[2:46:33] John Abbott. I head up our

[2:46:33] environmental department at

[2:46:36] Wgi. Compared to most of our

[2:46:37] competitors. We offer a much

[2:46:40] deeper bench of technical

[2:46:41] experts.

[2:46:42] >> Whatever services you might

[2:46:43] need of the next few years of

[2:46:44] term of this contract. We have

[2:46:46] the experts to do that. We

[2:46:50] have about 600 engineers. What

[2:46:51] scientist, wildlife

[2:46:54] biologists, geologists

[2:46:55] contamination experts,

[2:46:55] planners, geospatial dollars

[2:47:01] and a whole lot more. We have

[2:47:02] state-of-the-art technology

[2:47:03] storm was is the gold standard

[2:47:05] for water quality modeling?

[2:47:06] Not only do we use we

[2:47:09] developed it. Own it. Our

[2:47:09] competitors come to us to get

[2:47:13] their licenses. Flood another

[2:47:15] one of our own internal

[2:47:16] models. It provides real-time

[2:47:21] flood forecasting. The latest

[2:47:22] geospatial technology, for

[2:47:22] instance, that camera there on

[2:47:24] your at the bottom. We were

[2:47:26] the first in the world to buy

[2:47:30] that. It is a state-of-the-art

[2:47:31] infrared Cape. Wolf camera. We

[2:47:33] attach it to a piloted fixed

[2:47:35] wing aircraft. We can fly it

[2:47:36] over the county integrate. It

[2:47:38] was artificial intelligence

[2:47:38] and machine learning and map

[2:47:42] the whole county. Is this good

[2:47:44] for hog hunting and coats and

[2:47:45] sure is an infrared victim

[2:47:45] right out.

[2:47:49] >> That year. We have relevant

[2:47:53] and local experience. The top

[2:47:55] left the Kissimmee River

[2:47:56] restoration. 65 the spillway.

[2:47:58] I worked on that for well over

[2:47:59] a year. I'm no stranger to

[2:48:03] Okeechobee County. The top

[2:48:03] middle is a county water

[2:48:06] quality project that we're

[2:48:07] working on. That's the

[2:48:07] stormwater treatment area.

[2:48:12] Come pants Top right is a

[2:48:13] construct a weapon. The

[2:48:14] Michael Davison I worked on

[2:48:15] for many years that has water

[2:48:18] quality improvement component.

[2:48:20] Bottom left us. If it's cut

[2:48:22] off wall, I worked on that for

[2:48:23] many years. So the top Todd we

[2:48:27] know the lake really well.

[2:48:28] Bottom right is another county

[2:48:28] water quality project that

[2:48:30] that we're working on for

[2:48:34] Collier County. One includes a

[2:48:36] regional watershed level. All

[2:48:42] what a quality model. We know

[2:48:43] state agencies really well and

[2:48:45] have great relationships, for

[2:48:45] instance, for instance, with

[2:48:46] dot. We have a district-wide

[2:48:48] contract. We've had it for 5

[2:48:50] years. We just recently re

[2:48:52] competed for it was ranked

[2:48:52] number one. They give it to us

[2:48:56] for another 5 years. The top

[2:48:59] middle we serve full as the

[2:49:00] owner's representative for

[2:49:01] Clay County for their bonded

[2:49:04] infrastructure program. Bottom

[2:49:05] left is another county

[2:49:06] project. The water Quality

[2:49:09] project. That was from Martin

[2:49:12] County. That's a water quality

[2:49:12] modeling and improvement

[2:49:17] project agricultural area.

[2:49:18] Adam Wright is the c 44

[2:49:19] reservoir and stormwater

[2:49:21] treatment area. We provided

[2:49:22] the opinion of probable

[2:49:25] construction cost. And the top

[2:49:25] right doesn't look relevant,

[2:49:28] but it is. This is a county

[2:49:34] project. An outside agency,

[2:49:34] the Department of Defense, the

[2:49:38] Navy. Was proposing to bring

[2:49:39] in the f 35 joint strike

[2:49:42] fighter to Monroe County and

[2:49:43] other military operations in

[2:49:46] and around the county and

[2:49:49] state. The Navy dropped this

[2:49:49] enormous environmental impact

[2:49:53] statement on the county. It

[2:49:53] was thousands of pages long

[2:49:56] and it was very complicated

[2:49:56] and the county didn't know

[2:49:58] what to make of it. So they

[2:50:00] hired Michael and I to figure

[2:50:01] out what does it mean for the

[2:50:06] county? So we made sense of

[2:50:07] the We made a trip to

[2:50:08] Washington on behalf of the

[2:50:11] county. And came back reported

[2:50:12] to the board of County

[2:50:14] commissioners on this is what

[2:50:14] the Navy is planning on doing

[2:50:17] in your county. This what what

[2:50:17] is the impacts ending on your

[2:50:20] quality of life? So this is

[2:50:21] the type of services we can

[2:50:26] provide to We have a proven

[2:50:27] track record with these types

[2:50:31] of contracts. We have about

[2:50:32] 180 similar contracts. We one

[2:50:34] the dot for Environmental

[2:50:35] Services. Another one from

[2:50:36] Martin County, war for

[2:50:37] Port St. County, Clay County.

[2:50:41] We do this all the time. We

[2:50:42] know how to be helpful on

[2:50:45] contracts like this. And we

[2:50:45] know how to service an

[2:50:50] extension of her stuff. Thank

[2:50:54] you, John. And we're ready to

[2:50:57] go a couple of things that are

[2:50:58] really important when we take

[2:51:02] on projects like this and, you

[2:51:04] know, once the contract is

[2:51:06] awarded, we're going to work

[2:51:07] on a project specific

[2:51:09] contract, specific quality

[2:51:11] control plan. If you don't do

[2:51:12] qc at Wgi, you don't get to

[2:51:14] work there. That's that's our

[2:51:15] motto. You have to do that.

[2:51:15] You see and make sure the

[2:51:18] things that we give you have

[2:51:19] been checked and rechecked and

[2:51:22] there are accurate and

[2:51:22] appropriate.

[2:51:24] >> We'll set up a kickoff with

[2:51:25] you. And the reason that's

[2:51:27] really important, one of the

[2:51:29] things that we've noticed in

[2:51:31] the last 50 years of being a

[2:51:32] consultant is when things go

[2:51:34] good. It's usually because a

[2:51:36] good communication when things

[2:51:37] go bad it because a lack of

[2:51:40] good communication. So we take

[2:51:42] pride in being good

[2:51:44] communicators, reaching out

[2:51:45] early on being proactive and

[2:51:46] talking to our clients about

[2:51:49] what their expectations are.

[2:51:49] But expect both in terms of

[2:51:52] budget and schedule, but also

[2:51:55] the substance of the of the

[2:51:56] the project. So communication

[2:51:59] is really important. We will

[2:52:00] develop a specific project

[2:52:03] management plan because this

[2:52:04] is, you know, is a lot of

[2:52:05] moving parts and a contract

[2:52:06] like this. You need a lot of

[2:52:06] different disciplines. A lot

[2:52:09] of different people involved

[2:52:11] because it MAY be engineering

[2:52:12] MAY be planning, maybe

[2:52:13] environmental it maybe cover

[2:52:13] relations with a host of

[2:52:15] things going on. And so we

[2:52:18] want to make sure we're

[2:52:19] organized. And Todd has the

[2:52:22] right resources as your

[2:52:23] project manager to be

[2:52:24] effective. And so we have

[2:52:27] project specific plan here for

[2:52:32] this contract. We're ready to

[2:52:34] You know it when it is. John

[2:52:34] mentioned, we have a lot of

[2:52:35] experience. And so we know how

[2:52:38] to do this and I'm going to

[2:52:39] close the way I started again,

[2:52:39] be a little redundant because

[2:52:41] I think it's really important.

[2:52:44] We hand pick. This team and

[2:52:49] the others. To to support you.

[2:52:53] This is the a team. We

[2:52:53] understand how important this

[2:52:54] is to you and how important is

[2:52:57] to the county. So we're going

[2:52:57] to get it right. And that's

[2:53:02] what we do out. We're close by

[2:53:03] we have offices where you need

[2:53:07] us. We have that extensive,

[2:53:08] unprecedented grant and

[2:53:09] funding support capabilities

[2:53:10] along with our Web site design

[2:53:12] capabilities that will help us

[2:53:12] articulate what's going on in

[2:53:14] the county to the eu, citizens

[2:53:17] in your constituents. We have

[2:53:19] that bench that John talked

[2:53:21] about where if you have

[2:53:21] adopting engineering problem,

[2:53:23] Brett's going to bring in a

[2:53:25] team of engineers to help

[2:53:26] solve that problem and provide

[2:53:29] solutions. Same thing on

[2:53:30] environmental our planning. We

[2:53:33] have those those experts. We

[2:53:35] have the local knowledge. We

[2:53:36] worked in this area. Todd John

[2:53:37] talked about projects that

[2:53:38] that we've worked on right in

[2:53:40] this county here. And so we

[2:53:41] know the area we know South

[2:53:45] Florida. We have a lot of

[2:53:47] repeat clients. 72 1% of our

[2:53:52] clients at Wgi. Are repeat

[2:53:53] clients. 75% of our clients

[2:53:54] are public clients. So that's

[2:53:56] important. We do a little

[2:53:56] private land development in

[2:53:57] places, particularly in Texas.

[2:54:01] But 75% requests for public

[2:54:04] line says are repeat clients.

[2:54:07] We have that proven success.

[2:54:10] We're ready to go on your

[2:54:12] behalf help meet your

[2:54:12] objectives for strategic

[2:54:14] objectives. Okeechobee County.

[2:54:15] So that will stop look for any

[2:54:19] questions you have. Thank you.

[2:54:20] Would think that you would

[2:54:22] have a fee structure. I'm not

[2:54:24] asking for dollar amounts, but

[2:54:25] you must have a structure if

[2:54:26] we need engineering or

[2:54:27] something like that, that

[2:54:29] >> that would be. Included in

[2:54:34] the proposal. That would be

[2:54:34] included as part of the

[2:54:35] contract negotiations have

[2:54:36] such a great question. And one

[2:54:37] of the things that we bring is

[2:54:37] because we have the

[2:54:42] >> the bench that we have.

[2:54:44] That's going to be more

[2:54:46] expensive. Then then a

[2:54:47] mid-level engineer. If that

[2:54:48] particular project requires

[2:54:49] for the mid-level engineer,

[2:54:50] that's what we would do with

[2:54:51] Brett Oversight. We're not

[2:54:52] going to charge you for the

[2:54:52] highest paid person. We have a

[2:54:53] lot of.

[2:54:56] >> a lot up professionals to

[2:54:57] choose from. And we try to

[2:55:00] choose the very best ones.

[2:55:01] >> Given the nature of the

[2:55:01] particular task. But yes, we

[2:55:03] have a fee schedule. So I

[2:55:07] would think base rate would be

[2:55:08] for somebody monitoring all

[2:55:10] the all the meetings given

[2:55:11] U.S. Report periodically or

[2:55:11] something like that. That's

[2:55:14] what would be bill looking on.

[2:55:16] >> The schedule probably for

[2:55:17] that. It might be like a lump

[2:55:19] sum to go to 2 meetings a

[2:55:19] month or 5 meetings a month.

[2:55:21] Whatever you need us to do.

[2:55:22] >> And that would just be a

[2:55:25] lump sum. We would. Attend

[2:55:26] those meetings. Take notes,

[2:55:27] report back what we're hearing

[2:55:28] and what we think it means to

[2:55:30] the county.

[2:55:31] >> You really got my interest

[2:55:31] that when you talked about

[2:55:36] grants. I know we've had.

[2:55:38] We've got some good people

[2:55:38] working on grants here, but we

[2:55:41] also in the past, we've had

[2:55:42] the same cup. A lobbyist works

[2:55:45] for working on grants and that

[2:55:47] time they working up for

[2:55:48] percentage. How how would you

[2:55:49] envision being compensated

[2:55:53] prevent work? You know,

[2:55:54] Michael Lang former state rep

[2:55:55] will lead to grant writing

[2:55:58] thing and and hit.

[2:56:00] >> We'll structure composition

[2:56:01] compensation the way that

[2:56:02] makes sense for you. Not most

[2:56:03] grant writers do exactly what

[2:56:04] you're talking about. They get

[2:56:06] they'll take a piece off at if

[2:56:08] they're successful and there's

[2:56:08] other models. You could you

[2:56:10] could you could. We could work

[2:56:11] out. Mike, the good thing

[2:56:12] about Michael is in his

[2:56:13] teammate, Landon, is that

[2:56:15] there. Started working with

[2:56:18] him 30 years ago and they're

[2:56:19] very efficient. They they can

[2:56:21] get there pretty quick.

[2:56:23] Others. Let's spend a lot more

[2:56:24] time getting to the same

[2:56:26] point. So I think that helps

[2:56:27] with the rates and the

[2:56:27] compensation that they would

[2:56:31] have. Okay.

[2:56:32] >> The sta that's proposed to

[2:56:37] be located. Okeechobee been

[2:56:38] very controversial and this

[2:56:41] commission taking a stand it

[2:56:42] is not in our best interest to

[2:56:44] be located in that particular

[2:56:45] place. Is there any conflict

[2:56:47] from anybody in organization?

[2:56:52] To keep you from? Helping our

[2:56:55] caravan or desires. I don't

[2:56:56] think we have any conflicts.

[2:56:57] We do work for the South

[2:56:58] Florida Water Management

[2:56:59] District. Do work for the

[2:57:00] Corps Engineers. You know,

[2:57:03] that's not a secret.

[2:57:04] >> But I you know, I don't

[2:57:05] think it was a conflict there.

[2:57:07] What we're going to do is give

[2:57:08] you whatever the situation is,

[2:57:09] whatever the project, as give

[2:57:11] you the best technical advice

[2:57:13] that we believe based what we

[2:57:14] think's the best interest of

[2:57:19] the county. We have 7 issues

[2:57:20] that we think that they were

[2:57:21] not being able to comply with.

[2:57:25] And so.

[2:57:26] >> That's what we would be

[2:57:26] looking some assistance. Some

[2:57:35] knows. MR. CHAIRMAN. Yes, MR.

[2:57:37] Davis just a couple of things.

[2:57:40] It's been like 5, years ago

[2:57:41] when we started talking about

[2:57:42] this 7, a

[2:57:44] >> water policies are. Of some

[2:57:48] sort and there were a lot of

[2:57:49] meetings going on and we

[2:57:52] didn't have. The seat at the

[2:57:54] table. And if we did. And

[2:57:56] probably the way over, you

[2:57:57] know, way out of our

[2:57:59] wheelhouse to even know what

[2:58:01] to fight for. We didn't have

[2:58:02] anybody fighting for

[2:58:05] Okeechobee. And then you

[2:58:08] Martin County. Congressman was

[2:58:14] a day. Way bigger megaphone

[2:58:17] than we You know, we're

[2:58:18] nobody's listening. A little

[2:58:20] Okeechobee, him. You know, the

[2:58:21] fact that a lot of things that

[2:58:24] they want was just totally

[2:58:25] decimate. You know, our

[2:58:29] economy and are way of life.

[2:58:35] So. Thought that we needed

[2:58:36] somebody to to represent us

[2:58:38] and to go these meetings. Hear

[2:58:42] what they had to say. And then

[2:58:43] come back and tell us in

[2:58:44] layman's terms, this is what

[2:58:46] they're wanting to to to you.

[2:58:47] This is what I think we should

[2:58:51] do to combat it. And we're

[2:58:51] going to fight for Okeechobee.

[2:58:54] And that's what and that's our

[2:58:55] job up here where we represent

[2:58:57] the citizens of Okeechobee

[2:58:58] County. They look to us to do

[2:58:59] make the best decisions and to

[2:59:02] put up the best fights we can.

[2:59:09] 4 are 40,000 residents. Calm

[2:59:10] little duck in a big puddle

[2:59:10] when it comes all the other

[2:59:11] counties that we're having to

[2:59:14] to do battle with. On the

[2:59:16] grants. And this is a maybe a

[2:59:18] circular question. But are

[2:59:19] there grants that will help us

[2:59:21] pay for you? That's another

[2:59:25] thing I'd like to. Do wonder

[2:59:27] if it is there something that

[2:59:28] that will help small rural

[2:59:31] counties. You know, to hire

[2:59:32] people in there, you know, to

[2:59:40] be in their corner. But mostly

[2:59:42] that's what that's what I

[2:59:44] envisioned when we started

[2:59:45] talking about Indian this

[2:59:47] around, what we need is

[2:59:49] somebody that can go to these

[2:59:49] meetings, know what these

[2:59:53] people are saying. Know what

[2:59:54] you're talking about. Know if

[2:59:55] it's bad for us know if it's

[2:59:58] good for And then to also be

[2:59:59] are your quarterback that we

[2:59:59] put in when we need somebody

[3:00:02] to fight for us? We agree. I

[3:00:06] think there. It's probably I

[3:00:07] don't I'm not aware of grants

[3:00:08] that would pay for a general

[3:00:10] contract like this one. But

[3:00:11] what I am aware of this, that

[3:00:12] there are grants that would

[3:00:13] pay for

[3:00:14] >> specific items that might

[3:00:15] flow out of this. If there was

[3:00:18] a project, for example, there

[3:00:19] is opportunities it from times

[3:00:21] depend on the granting agency

[3:00:23] to get a grant for the

[3:00:23] planning and some of the

[3:00:24] design work for a particular

[3:00:26] project. And so that's what I

[3:00:27] think our team would be

[3:00:30] looking at is if we say, you

[3:00:31] know, there's a project here

[3:00:33] that we think you need to

[3:00:33] consider as part of your

[3:00:35] capital improvement program or

[3:00:37] whatever. A way to pay for it.

[3:00:38] And then that there MAY be an

[3:00:39] opportunity to pay for some of

[3:00:42] the g wgi services associate

[3:00:43] is that. Go back to your first

[3:00:49] question about. Understand

[3:00:50] fully your constituents.

[3:00:55] Okeechobee County. 18,500

[3:00:56] square miles in secrets to

[3:00:57] South Florida will become the

[3:00:57] South Florida ecosystem.

[3:01:01] You're at the heart. And we

[3:01:03] think, you know, helping you

[3:01:06] get things right. And making

[3:01:08] sure they are right for the

[3:01:10] county is right for the other

[3:01:12] parts of this ecosystem as

[3:01:13] well. So that's one of the

[3:01:14] reasons this is actually

[3:01:17] exciting for us because, you

[3:01:17] know, I've been a professional

[3:01:18] planner and environmental

[3:01:20] scientists for. Don't laugh

[3:01:24] almost 40 years now. And there

[3:01:28] have been very few situations

[3:01:29] where you can't find a way to

[3:01:31] reconcile the tension between

[3:01:33] opposing forces. Not always,

[3:01:36] but in many cases, you can.

[3:01:38] And I think it's really

[3:01:38] important that Okeechobee

[3:01:41] County be heard. You're in the

[3:01:42] center of this year, obviously

[3:01:43] right here at the liquid heart

[3:01:47] of the ecosystem. And so you

[3:01:49] think deserve an advocate. You

[3:01:49] deserve someone representing

[3:01:50] you and bring you back to good

[3:01:54] information. As you said. And

[3:01:55] helping you, you know, go

[3:01:56] through the process of making

[3:01:57] decisions, policy decisions

[3:02:02] about that. No one else.

[3:02:04] Commissioner Karla.

[3:02:07] Commissioner Summer.

[3:02:08] >> Red pretty well to that. I

[3:02:13] was going to ask so

[3:02:14] >> We can't let the car set

[3:02:18] alight. I'm sorry. I didn't

[3:02:19] hear that is a question said

[3:02:20] weekend that the current low

[3:02:27] Fat Lite.

[3:02:27] >> Commissioner, registered

[3:02:28] respond to your question

[3:02:30] regarding the congressman. I

[3:02:32] don't think there's anybody on

[3:02:33] any team, our experience with

[3:02:34] providing evidence-based

[3:02:37] rebuttal to the congressman,

[3:02:38] then me and being on your

[3:02:39] team. I would certainly be

[3:02:42] able to provide that voice. I

[3:02:43] know you're issues. I spent 8

[3:02:45] years representing an

[3:02:47] agricultural area of Palm

[3:02:50] Beach County and partnered a

[3:02:50] lot with Okeechobee County and

[3:02:51] those arguments pushing back

[3:02:53] on some of the congressman's

[3:02:55] rhetoric. So I look forward to

[3:02:57] being a part of the team

[3:02:59] representing you and providing

[3:03:00] that voiced here and having a

[3:03:00] seat at those tables where you

[3:03:03] need to be represented. Thank

[3:03:03] you and that that's

[3:03:06] comforting. And I do.

[3:03:06] >> Relish the thought of us

[3:03:09] being in a combative.

[3:03:11] Situation with United States

[3:03:11] Congressman, it just seems to

[3:03:16] be happening and the people

[3:03:17] there have have different

[3:03:21] wants needs and desires. The

[3:03:23] people here, our needs for a

[3:03:27] shower lake. But they feel is

[3:03:30] their need for e deeper lake

[3:03:32] which more like water storage,

[3:03:35] which the way he's alive. It's

[3:03:38] like a life. Be It's going

[3:03:42] been flown Growing contract.

[3:03:44] And I mean, that's that's the

[3:03:45] way that's where the good Lord

[3:03:48] made it We try leave it that

[3:03:52] way best we can. And, you

[3:03:53] know, with with our knees to

[3:03:54] try to keep Gulf from the 1928

[3:03:57] floods. That took a long life

[3:04:03] properties. So I hate to be in

[3:04:04] that position. I would love

[3:04:06] for us all to be able to sit

[3:04:07] down in the room and try to

[3:04:08] work something out everybody

[3:04:10] can live with. But, you know,

[3:04:12] he's got a pretty big

[3:04:12] megaphone. Comes for larger

[3:04:14] county than we can. We are

[3:04:17] more. Sure are agricultural

[3:04:22] based. But a lot of stuff on

[3:04:24] own. The way we look to

[3:04:25] tourism for our county for

[3:04:28] people that fish. And come

[3:04:30] here for that reason. So. You

[3:04:34] I don't mind given a little as

[3:04:34] long as everybody else might

[3:04:37] give it a little. So that's

[3:04:38] just can go on. The big things

[3:04:41] is we seem to be a. Combative

[3:04:44] relationship with our. Urban

[3:04:48] cousins on the coast. So

[3:04:50] >> respect the congressman.

[3:04:51] Respect his service, but there

[3:04:52] are 2 sides to every story. So

[3:04:53] making sure your side is

[3:04:53] shared would be a priority for

[3:04:56] us.

[3:04:57] >> Thank you very much.

[3:04:58] Commissioner Bonin. Just add a

[3:04:59] little bit to Melissa's

[3:04:59] coming. I spent 15 years in

[3:05:02] Washington and so the point is

[3:05:03] that we're not shy or timid

[3:05:06] with members of Congress were

[3:05:06] respectful. I probably testify

[3:05:08] to well over 100 times before

[3:05:10] the United States Congress and

[3:05:11] they don't call you up there

[3:05:12] to tell you're doing a good

[3:05:14] job. By the way, you they

[3:05:15] they're there to call you up

[3:05:16] there generally to be you up.

[3:05:17] So you got to have tough skin.

[3:05:17] You've got to be able to

[3:05:19] communicate with them and

[3:05:20] stand your ground when you

[3:05:21] need to stand your ground. So

[3:05:22] I think our team with Melissa

[3:05:23] and others going to be really

[3:05:25] good at that on your behalf.

[3:05:27] Well, if you are here this

[3:05:27] morning, you can see that

[3:05:28] we've developed tough scan.

[3:05:30] Yes. So the you had a

[3:05:34] question. Was also has

[3:05:36] questions that fully

[3:05:38] understanding the. And I want

[3:05:40] to say to Commissioner

[3:05:41] McKinley, but can't say he's

[3:05:41] always always on. The

[3:05:43] PRESIDENT Always on the took

[3:05:43] my time.

[3:05:44] >> But listen, I have listened

[3:05:49] to. Congressman Rat mass way

[3:05:51] too much. And contrary to what

[3:05:54] commissioner, good grades

[3:05:55] articulated. I don't mind

[3:05:59] confrontation. I love it. In

[3:05:59] fact, I breathe it to be quite

[3:06:04] frankly. This guy doesn't he

[3:06:06] hasn't helped us one bit. He

[3:06:06] hasn't helped really hasn't

[3:06:10] helped his own people. One bit

[3:06:10] as we've already, particularly

[3:06:11] one of the things that bring

[3:06:15] to the table, it's not only

[3:06:16] just dealing with him and some

[3:06:18] of the issues over on the c

[3:06:20] 44, there are areas, but

[3:06:21] they're starting to work on

[3:06:23] Shingle Creek. Now. And

[3:06:25] Shingle Creek is extremely

[3:06:29] important to us down here now,

[3:06:30] the commissioners probably

[3:06:32] haven't followed that because

[3:06:33] they don't have the time. I

[3:06:33] have the time to follow this

[3:06:34] stuff. So Shingle Creek is

[3:06:37] really important. Low cars,

[3:06:40] very important. We just saw

[3:06:41] that and that Bill Lowes sent

[3:06:43] over to the houses yesterday

[3:06:45] that give the authorization

[3:06:46] for South Florida water

[3:06:46] Management Start negotiating.

[3:06:50] Purchasing property. So that

[3:06:50] is a very important piece.

[3:06:53] Porous relative to even in

[3:06:56] conjunction with the sta. So I

[3:06:56] think you bring the bill

[3:06:59] wealth and knowledge to help

[3:07:00] us. But one thing never forget

[3:07:02] it as I got people to the west

[3:07:06] on the Caloosahatchee. But

[3:07:07] also we feed water to all of

[3:07:08] the folks on Broward,

[3:07:11] Miami-Dade, Monroe County, and

[3:07:12] expect us to very focused in

[3:07:16] terms of making sure orders

[3:07:17] clear, clean that they can be

[3:07:20] able to use of so I'm

[3:07:20] comfortable with Melissa Work

[3:07:24] with are a number of years and

[3:07:24] I'm comfortable with your your

[3:07:26] organization order to help

[3:07:28] manage some of the issues that

[3:07:31] not only exist today. But as I

[3:07:32] said with a Shingle creek

[3:07:35] process coming online, those

[3:07:37] particular issues either hurt

[3:07:37] or help us. And we need to

[3:07:38] that type of support. Thank

[3:07:41] you. And I didn't say good at

[3:07:49] it said didn't relish Still we

[3:07:50] have a just I'm just making

[3:07:51] light of a heavy situation.

[3:07:56] Anyone else? Any further

[3:07:58] comments. Thank you for your

[3:07:58] time. We hope to have the

[3:07:59] opportunity to work with you

[3:08:01] and support you. Thank you so

[3:08:07] much. Thank Colum columns. I'm

[3:08:08] sorry. I didn't have a

[3:08:14] barbecue for you this time.

[3:08:15] >> And surf. You're ready for

[3:08:17] the next group. Jessica, you

[3:08:21] want to? They're here. You

[3:08:23] want to check. Maybe thank

[3:08:38] you.

[3:08:38] I knew that. When I was

[3:08:45] in Palm Beach County. Look

[3:08:47] more. It's it in the hole.

[3:08:52] Pressure. Water, something

[3:09:04] that. That it was to some

[3:09:14] money in there. Introduce

[3:09:20] sons. Well, it's good. Then

[3:09:20] introduce yourself. That could

[3:09:25] have been your question. I

[3:09:28] don't want it to here and I

[3:09:35] want supposed to

[3:09:37] >> Good afternoon and welcome.

[3:09:39] I you want to pull that

[3:09:40] microphone down to you,

[3:09:45] please. Short. Can you see me

[3:09:47] over this Do you have to have

[3:09:49] a hand? Everything force?

[3:09:53] We've Okay. Just the fact that

[3:09:53] I think this was emailed out

[3:09:59] to the group. 2, we emailed it

[3:10:02] to forget who it Okay to

[3:10:08] Jessica. Get that off. What

[3:10:09] will get a copy out all Thank

[3:10:18] you. Help is expected to the I

[3:10:23] you meant. Back the city

[3:10:23] closer. You don't have a

[3:10:26] handheld want to Yes. Can feel

[3:10:26] more comfortable with short?

[3:10:29] Otherwise you get to Crews

[3:10:34] prepared for It's better. Can

[3:10:41] you hear for clicker? Same

[3:10:45] this morning. Think didn't

[3:10:49] expect such a big My name's

[3:10:50] government can bring the q and

[3:10:51] with a royal consulting

[3:10:53] services. Let me start off

[3:10:55] first by saying thank you for

[3:10:57] having I'd like to introduce

[3:10:58] our team.

[3:11:00] >> I think we have a really

[3:11:01] impressive team. We put

[3:11:02] together for Okeechobee to

[3:11:04] meet your water, quality and

[3:11:04] environmental services. The

[3:11:08] head of the team is Royal

[3:11:08] Consulting services. We've

[3:11:09] been working in Okeechobee and

[3:11:10] have a local office. We've

[3:11:13] been here for 20 plus years.

[3:11:14] We've done lot of work with

[3:11:17] the agriculture community. So

[3:11:18] we're very proud the work

[3:11:20] we've done here in Okeechobee.

[3:11:22] Rounding out our team. We have

[3:11:23] Sullivan, Water engineering

[3:11:26] technology that headed by

[3:11:27] Doctor Boucher. He is the

[3:11:28] developer of the watershed

[3:11:29] assessment model. That's the

[3:11:32] model that's used by d p for

[3:11:35] the Tmdl and the the map

[3:11:38] target and rounding out our

[3:11:40] team is Barnes for London

[3:11:41] Associates with we have will

[3:11:43] Thomas here as well as bill

[3:11:44] done and they're experts and

[3:11:49] out of advocacy. It also and

[3:11:51] helping you find for those

[3:11:53] capital improvement projects

[3:11:54] and has a lot good experience

[3:11:55] with our septic to sewer Ty

[3:12:03] projects as well. Our team

[3:12:04] understands the goal of

[3:12:06] Okeechobee County. You know,

[3:12:07] where understand that your

[3:12:08] goal is to protect water

[3:12:11] quality while enabling the

[3:12:13] sustainable growth, preserving

[3:12:14] agriculture in strengthening

[3:12:16] your community, resilience. We

[3:12:17] understand that the heart of

[3:12:20] Okeechobee is agriculture and

[3:12:21] we're team that's full of

[3:12:25] agriculture advocates. We

[3:12:26] understand the challenges that

[3:12:28] are faced by Okeechobee, you

[3:12:29] know, from the increase in

[3:12:30] nutrient load from from the

[3:12:34] North. To the challenges of

[3:12:38] implementing map to regulating

[3:12:39] and working with the conflict

[3:12:41] interest around Lake

[3:12:43] Okeechobee the economic growth

[3:12:47] that's happening and how to

[3:12:50] get funds and design and

[3:12:50] install those cap and

[3:12:51] improvements to meet the

[3:12:52] growing demands of your

[3:12:57] community. Our team is

[3:12:58] committed to meeting the needs

[3:13:01] of the county. We understand

[3:13:03] and are versed dealing with

[3:13:05] regulators and advocating for

[3:13:07] you as a community, including

[3:13:14] your rule partners. We have

[3:13:16] know how to engage with the p

[3:13:17] with the water management

[3:13:18] districts to navigate those

[3:13:19] water quality policies secure

[3:13:23] funding. We're experts at data

[3:13:25] analysis and technical

[3:13:26] support, you know, with Dr

[3:13:28] Boucher, the creator of the

[3:13:32] Watershed Assessment model and

[3:13:34] one that guided the tmdl and b

[3:13:37] map criterion targets on our

[3:13:38] team. We have the tools

[3:13:41] necessary to effectively and

[3:13:41] efficiently evaluate what

[3:13:46] works best for the county. We

[3:13:50] have a great that proven their

[3:13:53] ability to rattle various

[3:13:55] stakeholders together and

[3:13:55] provide that public engagement

[3:13:57] strategies and by and to make

[3:13:58] these projects come to

[3:14:01] fruition. And we have a lot of

[3:14:03] experience and getting helping

[3:14:07] you get funding designing

[3:14:08] installing those big

[3:14:13] infrastructure type projects.

[3:14:14] Our team has proven results in

[3:14:18] the Lake Okeechobee watershed.

[3:14:19] We have over 20 years of

[3:14:21] experience working here

[3:14:22] locally. We have technical

[3:14:23] success stories that we've

[3:14:26] done here. From the watershed

[3:14:29] assessment model that's been

[3:14:30] developed. We've helped

[3:14:32] improve water quality in the

[3:14:37] past 20 years from your ag

[3:14:38] producers through nutrient

[3:14:39] management design of still

[3:14:42] water control type systems,

[3:14:44] retention systems helping your

[3:14:46] ag community do sustainable

[3:14:47] agriculture practices. We've

[3:14:47] been doing that since 2005

[3:14:51] right here locally. We've

[3:14:52] implemented bmps on over 105

[3:14:56] forms in Okeechobee. These

[3:14:56] are, you know, from small

[3:15:01] farms to dairy farms. We've

[3:15:04] spending 32,515 acres as Iran

[3:15:04] just grow crops and dairy

[3:15:08] farms. We've actually worked

[3:15:09] on over half a million acres

[3:15:10] of agricultural land here

[3:15:12] locally. You know, we count

[3:15:15] Larson, dairy MacArthur Farm

[3:15:15] smoking are, you know, we're

[3:15:17] partners with them. We want

[3:15:20] them to be successful. We help

[3:15:23] guide them through the

[3:15:23] environmental, you know,

[3:15:24] regulatory hurdles and help

[3:15:25] them find funding to be

[3:15:26] successful. And we've been

[3:15:30] even able to do that just with

[3:15:30] fx funding alone, we've been

[3:15:31] able to acquire over

[3:15:34] 17 billion dollars in funds as

[3:15:35] of today. We have another

[3:15:36] 2 million hopefully coming

[3:15:39] soon to help the our producers

[3:15:41] meet those environmental

[3:15:42] challenges. So we bring the

[3:15:45] unmatched depth and science

[3:15:46] funding and stakeholder trust

[3:15:48] to the agile Agra Okeechobee,

[3:15:53] agriculture community. We have

[3:15:54] experience in identifying if

[3:15:55] effective abatements

[3:15:55] strategies for the Lake

[3:15:57] Okeechobee. The map using that

[3:16:00] water should assess of model

[3:16:01] using we can identify the most

[3:16:03] effective solutions. And the

[3:16:07] Lake Okeechobee watershed

[3:16:09] evaluating the mp strategies

[3:16:10] by comparing nutrient loads

[3:16:10] under existing and historic

[3:16:16] conditions. We've supported

[3:16:17] state agencies, dp Water

[3:16:18] Management District f dax and

[3:16:20] we finding those b map

[3:16:23] strategies and we've created a

[3:16:24] tool to evaluate mp's in

[3:16:26] projects that offer the

[3:16:28] highest fastest and most cost

[3:16:28] effective water quality

[3:16:29] improvement in the Lake.

[3:16:33] Okeechobee watershed. Our

[3:16:33] modeling and sites directly

[3:16:37] inform agency policies and

[3:16:37] improved sources targeting

[3:16:42] across the watershed. We

[3:16:43] understand the upstream

[3:16:46] influence. We've modeled it.

[3:16:47] We help come up with a tmdl

[3:16:49] the b maps for the Upper

[3:16:53] Kissimmee watershed. We've win

[3:16:56] in our development. We noticed

[3:16:57] that there was a key data

[3:16:59] gaps. So we implemented

[3:16:59] moderate stratum on attorney

[3:17:00] strategies to improve the

[3:17:03] accuracy and the coverage

[3:17:05] modeled and rank the app's by

[3:17:05] cost effectiveness and

[3:17:08] nutrient reduction potential.

[3:17:10] We provided the decision

[3:17:11] makers with the scenario based

[3:17:11] outcomes to guide

[3:17:17] implementation. This is an

[3:17:20] example of actual bmp. That

[3:17:21] was that's that's a success

[3:17:24] story right here locally. In

[3:17:25] Okeechobee. This is a storm

[3:17:28] water. Reuse alternative water

[3:17:30] supply project that put

[3:17:32] together. It's been designed,

[3:17:32] constructed, permitted. We

[3:17:36] were able to get funding from

[3:17:36] various agencies to our total

[3:17:42] around 1.5 million. This is an

[3:17:43] example of how can work for

[3:17:43] you and how you can have

[3:17:46] projects that are one win. You

[3:17:49] know, this is solution that

[3:17:50] shows, you know, kuz it with

[3:17:50] storm water, retention

[3:17:51] combining that with the need

[3:17:54] for irrigation. And reuse of

[3:17:56] irrigation. And it resulted in

[3:17:56] a nutrient reduction of 92%

[3:18:00] from the farm decrease water

[3:18:04] use by 29%. Solutions like the

[3:18:05] shows how water quality

[3:18:07] improvements can also solve

[3:18:15] supply and cost challenges.

[3:18:16] With their ever growing

[3:18:17] population. You know, we also

[3:18:20] looking toward septic to sewer

[3:18:22] conversions arc from team has

[3:18:23] extensive experience

[3:18:24] supporting septic to sewer

[3:18:26] conversions across the world

[3:18:28] and environmentally sensitive

[3:18:29] areas. We've developed grant

[3:18:30] applications secured funding

[3:18:32] for septic to sewer and

[3:18:34] wastewater infrastructure

[3:18:36] projects. We've assisted local

[3:18:37] governments and communities

[3:18:38] with stakeholder engagement,

[3:18:39] permitting and capital

[3:18:43] planning. We've constructed

[3:18:45] over 20 of these projects for

[3:18:45] a total cost of over

[3:18:49] 101 million dollars. We've

[3:18:53] moved 3,775 6 6 septic systems

[3:18:56] and installed. 38.6 miles

[3:18:57] gravity. Sewers. We've been

[3:18:58] able to acquire funding

[3:18:58] through water Management

[3:19:03] District d p swag and the Cdbg

[3:19:04] grant. We've been there with

[3:19:06] our clients along the way from

[3:19:09] preliminary design through

[3:19:10] permitting through stakeholder

[3:19:12] engagement through

[3:19:14] construction, including

[3:19:15] helping them find the funds to

[3:19:16] make and bring these projects

[3:19:19] to fruition. These projects

[3:19:20] are located in be met priority

[3:19:23] areas that have a goal once

[3:19:24] complete, reducing load

[3:19:29] reduction by 80%. We are

[3:19:30] specialists in community

[3:19:33] outreach and education. We

[3:19:35] promote awareness and public

[3:19:35] support. We've hosted

[3:19:37] workshops and public meetings.

[3:19:38] We incorporate public

[3:19:41] feedback. We listen. Not just

[3:19:44] talk to our stakeholders. We

[3:19:45] collaborate with other

[3:19:46] organizations to expand

[3:19:49] outreach. We create content

[3:19:51] and media to increase

[3:19:53] transparency, engagement. We

[3:19:53] foster community-based

[3:19:56] solutions and initiatives.

[3:19:58] Some examples of these are

[3:19:59] appear presented for the Saint

[3:20:00] Johns River, Water Supply plan

[3:20:04] for the East Central Florida,

[3:20:04] 2020 planning effort. We

[3:20:08] hosted over 12 public

[3:20:09] meetings, its stakeholders

[3:20:10] included Saint Johns River

[3:20:12] Water Management District,

[3:20:12] Southwest Florida Water

[3:20:13] Management District, South

[3:20:15] Florida Water Management

[3:20:17] District. The general public

[3:20:18] environmental groups, elected

[3:20:19] officials, 20 water, utilities

[3:20:22] and other state agencies. And

[3:20:23] we were able to help wrangle

[3:20:23] all those different people in

[3:20:28] different interest together to

[3:20:29] create a project finally got

[3:20:29] by and were able to move

[3:20:34] forward with. For the Black

[3:20:34] Water Resource Development

[3:20:39] Project. We had the added

[3:20:40] complication of having state

[3:20:44] legislators, dp epa amongst

[3:20:44] local utilities and

[3:20:45] governments involved in

[3:20:47] stakeholders in this project.

[3:20:50] And again, through

[3:20:51] collaboration, open

[3:20:52] communication and outreach. We

[3:20:53] were able to come to a

[3:20:58] consensus and move forward.

[3:20:59] Our team provides local

[3:21:01] strength and technical depth.

[3:21:03] What I have here are the

[3:21:06] techno leads of the project.

[3:21:08] So leading the team is Royal

[3:21:10] Consulting Services. We are a

[3:21:10] local engineering firm. We

[3:21:11] have been here for 20 plus

[3:21:15] years. We have approved proven

[3:21:16] success in securing funds with

[3:21:19] help of having acquired over.

[3:21:19] 35 million funds, you know,

[3:21:22] for in Okeechobee. And we

[3:21:23] deeply understand the

[3:21:23] agriculture need to your

[3:21:25] community. We have salon,

[3:21:27] water, engineering technology

[3:21:28] who are specialists in the

[3:21:32] watershed assessment. Modeling

[3:21:32] the developers of the

[3:21:33] Okeechobee watershed

[3:21:36] assessment Modeler. And Barnes

[3:21:39] for London Associates Bfa who

[3:21:39] have unparalleled insight into

[3:21:40] water policy agency,

[3:21:44] coordination. With with

[3:21:44] strength and capital planning

[3:21:47] and public engagement. So our

[3:21:48] team is had by Brian Moore

[3:21:49] with real consulting services

[3:21:51] as a client officer. Again,

[3:21:53] he's a public. He's a local

[3:21:54] business owner and represent

[3:21:56] the agricultural interests and

[3:21:59] a strong advocate. He's an

[3:22:01] expert water resources and

[3:22:02] stakeholder coordination. We

[3:22:03] have Dr Boucher, the

[3:22:06] developer, also our team. He's

[3:22:08] a strong ag advocate again,

[3:22:10] leading agriculture hydrology

[3:22:12] for decades and has worked to

[3:22:12] implement science-based and be

[3:22:14] in peace throughout the

[3:22:18] region. We have doctor and

[3:22:19] Shortell as advocacy and

[3:22:20] policy. She's a former

[3:22:21] director of to water

[3:22:21] management districts, the

[3:22:22] Saint Johns River Water

[3:22:23] Management District and the

[3:22:25] Suwannee River Water

[3:22:26] Management District as well as

[3:22:29] the director of Office of

[3:22:30] Water Policy past director

[3:22:30] water policy for dp. She has

[3:22:34] unmatched in sight into what

[3:22:36] water policy and agency

[3:22:37] coordination takes. And we

[3:22:38] have will Thomas are planning

[3:22:39] lead, who has extensive

[3:22:41] experience in that capital

[3:22:43] planning and getting helping

[3:22:43] to get the funds to make these

[3:22:46] capital improvements. Come to

[3:22:49] light. So we have a strong

[3:22:51] track record and where excited

[3:22:55] to work Okeechobee County. So

[3:22:57] why the rcs that we have local

[3:23:00] presence with the agriculture

[3:23:01] routes trusting relationship

[3:23:02] with producers agency a stack

[3:23:05] and stakeholders. We provide

[3:23:07] prove a practical solutions

[3:23:08] having you know, helped raise

[3:23:09] over 34 million dollars in

[3:23:10] funding for bnp septic to

[3:23:12] sewer nag friendly water

[3:23:13] infrastructure, technical

[3:23:15] strength and strategic tools.

[3:23:18] We have decades of experience

[3:23:18] in modeling designed and

[3:23:19] implemented useful tools like

[3:23:21] the watershed assessment Model

[3:23:23] collaborative and regulatory

[3:23:25] savvy. We have a strong track

[3:23:25] record of building consensus

[3:23:27] across agencies and

[3:23:29] communities to move these

[3:23:29] projects forward. And we're

[3:23:32] committed your goals. You

[3:23:33] know, we want to be there. We

[3:23:34] want to help Okeechobee move

[3:23:38] to the future while protecting

[3:23:39] that rural identity that makes

[3:23:42] a place where everybody wants

[3:23:42] to live line while taking into

[3:23:45] account the water quality

[3:23:46] challenges and helping you

[3:23:49] build the economic resilience.

[3:23:54] Thank you. MR. CHAIRMAN. Yes,

[3:24:01] sir. 2%. Was him. Yes,

[3:24:04] Kimberly are killing them

[3:24:05] either. Okay, you'd like to be

[3:24:08] called Kevin. My dad always

[3:24:09] told me the most important

[3:24:10] word in English language is

[3:24:16] somebodys So.

[3:24:17] >> I hear a lot of references

[3:24:19] to ag, I want a guy, you know,

[3:24:22] that's where my my personal

[3:24:23] heart is. But as a

[3:24:27] commissioner. We're really

[3:24:28] going to get hurt in our

[3:24:29] tourism industry. That's most

[3:24:32] ranchers and farmers. They

[3:24:34] want nothing from their county

[3:24:34] government. Other leave of

[3:24:37] They don't. They don't rarely

[3:24:38] does a farmer or rancher ever

[3:24:41] called us to ask for so some

[3:24:42] tough assistance from the

[3:24:46] county. But we're having to

[3:24:50] really focus on. The health of

[3:24:54] the wake one of 4 hour.

[3:24:55] Tourism industry for, you

[3:24:57] know, the health for the

[3:25:00] fisherman for the fishing

[3:25:01] tournaments. We also are

[3:25:05] trying to our best job we can

[3:25:07] commissioners of transferring

[3:25:09] people from septic tanks to

[3:25:10] sewer system, especially

[3:25:13] closer to the lake that's a

[3:25:18] big thing. But as

[3:25:19] commissioners watching out for

[3:25:22] our whole county I think our

[3:25:23] tourism industry is the one

[3:25:27] that it's going to need our

[3:25:28] help more. Then the farmers

[3:25:29] and ranchers in the dairy that

[3:25:32] like I said, I think they they

[3:25:33] take care of pretty much

[3:25:34] everything that they need to

[3:25:38] honor all they go way over our

[3:25:39] heads to, you know, the state

[3:25:40] and federal government. But

[3:25:43] we're trying to look out all

[3:25:44] the things we're trying look

[3:25:45] out for is our economy, our

[3:25:48] local economy, which is

[3:25:53] heavily based on. You know,

[3:25:54] best fish and speckled perch

[3:25:58] and things like that. So I

[3:26:01] think and I've said before. We

[3:26:02] need somebody to have a seat

[3:26:02] at the table. Are all these

[3:26:04] other counties are meeting on

[3:26:06] water policy because we

[3:26:08] haven't had anybody. I think

[3:26:10] we we get left behind. We get

[3:26:11] missed out or we just don't

[3:26:14] even get considered for some

[3:26:16] of these things that the

[3:26:17] coastal counties are trying to

[3:26:21] get done for their economy. So

[3:26:22] the weight means different

[3:26:25] things to different areas.

[3:26:29] They want. Deeper way for

[3:26:32] water storage. We want shower

[3:26:34] late for the health of the of

[3:26:38] the underwater. Vegetation,

[3:26:41] which in turn is a. The health

[3:26:44] of our fishing industry. So

[3:26:47] that's more were I 10, 2 focus

[3:26:50] on this soon. Not as much the

[3:26:52] dairy man and the ranchers and

[3:26:56] and the Water Bowl. Farmers.

[3:26:58] Rest of our economy and

[3:27:04] Okeechobee. If I can just say

[3:27:04] so.

[3:27:07] >> When you look at map and

[3:27:09] the modeling that's been done

[3:27:13] and that the mp's the cost to

[3:27:17] do a bmp plan, for instance,

[3:27:18] is almost order of magnitude

[3:27:19] less expensive for the same

[3:27:20] amount of nutrients as it

[3:27:25] would be in urban environment.

[3:27:27] I think, you know, that road

[3:27:29] feeling is definitely

[3:27:29] incorporated into the heart of

[3:27:33] Okeechobee, you know, and

[3:27:35] farmers are the best stewards

[3:27:37] of the land, right? And and

[3:27:39] the health of their land. You

[3:27:40] know, also it's direct related

[3:27:42] to the health of the lake, but

[3:27:46] there an ability there, too,

[3:27:49] implement some of these larger

[3:27:53] are rural and the mp's to have

[3:28:02] big effect at a lower cost. I.

[3:28:03] >> I think ultimately, you

[3:28:04] know, for health of the lake,

[3:28:04] it's the nutrient load that's

[3:28:08] going into lake. So. How do

[3:28:09] you reduce the nutrient load,

[3:28:10] whether it's from egg or

[3:28:16] whatever land use and improve

[3:28:16] the fisheries everything's

[3:28:20] obviously tied to the economy

[3:28:22] and the benefit of of our team

[3:28:23] is we've got Doctor Boucher

[3:28:24] and his model, the Wind

[3:28:25] Assessment model, which has

[3:28:28] been used by the Water

[3:28:29] Management District ndp to do

[3:28:31] that. The mp analysis and the

[3:28:35] the beauty of the modeling

[3:28:39] tool is you can infinite. What

[3:28:41] if scenarios, you can put bmp

[3:28:41] in any place in the watershed

[3:28:43] to serve function.

[3:28:48] >> Runoff from Orlando

[3:28:51] stormwater treatment area for

[3:28:52] some other watershed. But

[3:28:56] we've got the ability run

[3:28:56] through.

[3:28:58] >> essentially any scenario

[3:29:00] that seems logical to us to

[3:29:02] come up with or your staff MAY

[3:29:02] come up with where you cells

[3:29:03] MAY come up with

[3:29:06] >> I really want to see you do

[3:29:07] this or evaluate We've got the

[3:29:09] ability then to look at it

[3:29:10] from the physics standpoint of

[3:29:13] the water flows, the nutrient

[3:29:14] removal capability of the

[3:29:15] various the mp's in the month

[3:29:18] and the model as well as do a

[3:29:20] cost analysis to identify

[3:29:21] cost-effective strategy. So I

[3:29:23] think we've got this tool box

[3:29:27] that can answer really is set

[3:29:30] up to answer any question you

[3:29:30] ask about what can we do in

[3:29:35] various parts of our realm to

[3:29:37] address water, quality issues.

[3:29:38] So mean that we've got the

[3:29:38] tools to do it. And it's a

[3:29:41] matter of just sentencing the

[3:29:42] right questions. You know, the

[3:29:45] dep is done analysis and

[3:29:47] prioritize basins throughout

[3:29:49] the watershed. The makes any

[3:29:52] watershed. That's one place to

[3:29:53] start. They've done 5 year

[3:29:54] trend analysis for every every

[3:29:56] sub basin out there. So

[3:29:58] there's lots of information to

[3:29:58] start with. And we would just

[3:30:01] sit down with you and your

[3:30:02] staff and say, where do we go

[3:30:02] first, what do you want to

[3:30:06] look at? First? And we've got

[3:30:08] the modeling tool to do it.

[3:30:09] And again, it says this is

[3:30:12] wonderful. What a scenario

[3:30:12] analysis tool that eventually

[3:30:13] will give you cause for how

[3:30:16] much it costs and then do cost

[3:30:17] is essentially a cost

[3:30:21] efficiency analysis. To that

[3:30:25] answer. Know.

[3:30:29] >> And I'm sure all these ease

[3:30:29] bmps in the whims of the pals

[3:30:30] beings in the bam's and all

[3:30:31] these things are very, very

[3:30:34] important. But what we need is

[3:30:34] somebody to go to these

[3:30:40] meetings. And represent

[3:30:41] Okeechobee County and hear

[3:30:42] what they have to say. Thing

[3:30:43] come back and tell us they

[3:30:46] said this and we say no, we're

[3:30:47] going to fight for you this.

[3:30:48] We think what they're wanting

[3:30:49] to do is good for them and bad

[3:30:54] for us because we. We're not,

[3:30:55] you know, we're not educated

[3:30:57] and don't have the experience

[3:31:00] in all this water policy

[3:31:04] thing. I 20% of this board.

[3:31:04] But what I'm looking for is

[3:31:07] somebody that's going to be

[3:31:09] our our quarterback or cheer

[3:31:10] leader. That's going to go go

[3:31:10] to these meetings. He was

[3:31:14] going on. See what these with

[3:31:18] these other counties

[3:31:22] organizations are wanting to

[3:31:23] do and recognize that this,

[3:31:24] that that whatever it is or

[3:31:24] what want to do is not good

[3:31:27] for Okeechobee or is good for

[3:31:30] Okeechobee or doesn't fall on

[3:31:32] either side for Okeechobee,

[3:31:36] but we we need somebody that

[3:31:37] can go there those meetings,

[3:31:38] comeback fight for a stunning

[3:31:40] comeback. Doesn't say

[3:31:41] commissioners. Here's what

[3:31:42] here's what they want to do

[3:31:45] give us the. The let the

[3:31:46] Reader's Digest version. But,

[3:31:48] you know, the like you're

[3:31:51] talking at school bus, stop.

[3:31:51] You know, without without all

[3:31:53] the big words. Alright,

[3:31:58] carburetor and mayonnaise.

[3:32:00] >> No, I I understand your

[3:32:01] question the concern and I

[3:32:03] think we have a team that's

[3:32:03] built for that to be able

[3:32:06] provide what you're looking

[3:32:07] for. But know we talked a lot

[3:32:09] of technical all these terms

[3:32:09] about the modeling and

[3:32:12] watershed into b maps. But we

[3:32:15] do have a policy maker on our

[3:32:16] team in Short Hill. She's she

[3:32:17] works a bfa. She's part part

[3:32:21] of this team, ccs of policy

[3:32:22] manager. She's a person. It's

[3:32:23] helped guide policy. Bring all

[3:32:27] the stakeholders together. But

[3:32:29] first and foremost is to sit

[3:32:30] and listen to understand what

[3:32:32] your needs and your concerns

[3:32:34] are and how do we best take

[3:32:38] that conversation to the other

[3:32:40] stakeholders and make sure

[3:32:40] that we're working for you to

[3:32:41] make sure that we're trying to

[3:32:43] implement practices that will

[3:32:46] ultimately benefit.

[3:32:48] Okeechobee. Know, there's

[3:32:49] there's various tools like

[3:32:51] they, you know, every was

[3:32:51] mentioned here. Gave the

[3:32:52] presentation as a tool box to

[3:32:55] help implement that. But we

[3:32:56] need to know first and

[3:32:57] foremost, what is your goals

[3:33:00] and what is your needs? And

[3:33:00] no, we sit with these

[3:33:03] policymakers. Can have those

[3:33:05] conversations to make sure

[3:33:08] that that we are putting your

[3:33:10] goals and your object first

[3:33:11] and foremost, then we can come

[3:33:12] back and figure out how do we

[3:33:13] implemented? Make sure that we

[3:33:18] use the tool box, all all the

[3:33:19] all the items are a tool box

[3:33:21] to make sure that we work

[3:33:22] towards your goal to make sure

[3:33:23] is implemented. But we do have

[3:33:26] policymakers on our staff can

[3:33:27] sit in the rules with these

[3:33:29] folks and help guide those

[3:33:32] conversations to shoot to suit

[3:33:32] your interests.

[3:33:33] >> I yield time of

[3:33:39] commissioner So MR. Chair

[3:33:40] >> up, assume I already know

[3:33:41] the answer is and I'm not sure

[3:33:44] which one of you is best

[3:33:45] answer the question you listed

[3:33:48] off some of your other clients

[3:33:49] here locally. A lot of them

[3:33:49] friends of ours people with

[3:33:53] known her whole life. Where

[3:33:54] could any potential conflict

[3:34:01] come? What you're? Thinking

[3:34:02] might be best County in the

[3:34:05] greater scheme of getting

[3:34:06] along with our other partners

[3:34:09] and the watershed. Versus what

[3:34:12] you're doing for existing ag

[3:34:15] clients that you have here. I

[3:34:17] can see a situation there to

[3:34:17] wear what you MAY recommend

[3:34:21] us. Maybe. Opposite of of

[3:34:25] what's best for them. So how

[3:34:26] do we avoid that potential

[3:34:33] conflict? I don't really think

[3:34:34] there's a conflict as much. I

[3:34:35] understand your concerns very

[3:34:37] much.

[3:34:38] >> I think we all have the

[3:34:39] same goal in mind is which is

[3:34:41] cleaning up the lake. The

[3:34:42] landowners want to do the same

[3:34:44] thing. The only thing that

[3:34:45] we're going to be fighting for

[3:34:48] is the same pot of money.

[3:34:50] Depending on what's out there

[3:34:50] and available for available

[3:34:54] cash here. A lot of it only

[3:34:55] goes to private landowners and

[3:34:56] they're going to be attacking

[3:34:59] that very much. But several of

[3:35:01] the policies and several of

[3:35:01] the grants are associated only

[3:35:03] with municipal governments.

[3:35:05] And so I see that as a

[3:35:06] separate goal, all trying to

[3:35:10] beat the same thing. So we're

[3:35:12] same regard says we're all

[3:35:12] going after, you know, funding

[3:35:14] to help us get to the same

[3:35:15] goal. I don't really see a

[3:35:19] conflict so much. We're a

[3:35:20] particular landowners going to

[3:35:20] do something that would be

[3:35:22] against the goals of the

[3:35:22] county. They all have the same

[3:35:26] goal.

[3:35:27] >> Well, certainly is an

[3:35:28] implied difference and go with

[3:35:32] the. Profitable money-making

[3:35:34] concern versus government

[3:35:35] body. You know where we don't

[3:35:38] have to look at. We don't have

[3:35:39] to look at what this would be

[3:35:43] best. But we can maybe make a

[3:35:44] little more if we just do

[3:35:46] this. Much of it were a

[3:35:47] business and GOD love them and

[3:35:52] all for it. And some of their.

[3:35:53] Needs and desires also include

[3:35:54] profitability of their

[3:35:59] business. Where's that?

[3:36:01] Wouldn't be the focus of a

[3:36:02] municipal government like ours

[3:36:04] are. Our business is strictly

[3:36:05] to get it as clean and pretty

[3:36:07] in pristine as possible to

[3:36:08] make Okeechobee as a whole.

[3:36:11] The most desirable place. For

[3:36:13] future businesses, tourism.

[3:36:17] Where Take it? Milken Arbery.

[3:36:20] They still need to make money.

[3:36:21] They have to stay. Totally I

[3:36:23] totally agree with you. But if

[3:36:24] you take a look at it the way

[3:36:25] we look at it.

[3:36:26] >> You have the same goals

[3:36:29] that landowner has because you

[3:36:30] can't just say I want that.

[3:36:31] Make that like the clean as

[3:36:34] possible. You have to save

[3:36:36] yourselves. I have to use all

[3:36:36] of the means that we're with

[3:36:38] in my checkbook. To make it as

[3:36:42] clean as possible. That's why

[3:36:42] we're such big advocates and

[3:36:44] trying to get state grant

[3:36:44] money in federal grant money

[3:36:47] to help you reach those goals

[3:36:49] because nobody has the Golden

[3:36:51] Checkbook. You have fiscal

[3:36:52] responsibilities just like the

[3:36:53] landowners have fiscal

[3:36:55] responsibilities. They're

[3:36:56] trying to make a profit.

[3:36:56] You're trying to get the

[3:36:59] biggest bang for the buck.

[3:37:00] You're trying to get the most

[3:37:00] water quality for the amount

[3:37:02] of money that you're spending.

[3:37:03] So I see them as very similar

[3:37:07] goals. And that's why a lot of

[3:37:08] times the grants are set up

[3:37:09] with municipal on one side and

[3:37:11] private on the other because

[3:37:12] that's very difficult to mix

[3:37:15] and match. And so we have team

[3:37:17] members, you know, my team

[3:37:17] been doing a lot for the

[3:37:19] individual landowners over the

[3:37:22] years. Where Barnes Ferland?

[3:37:23] They do a lot with the

[3:37:26] governmental and you know,

[3:37:27] different types of grant

[3:37:27] monies that are coming out of

[3:37:28] state, federal for

[3:37:29] municipalities. And so that's

[3:37:31] why we put this team together.

[3:37:34] It's because we feel that if

[3:37:35] we can meet your objectives

[3:37:35] were meeting everybody's

[3:37:40] objectives. That could be

[3:37:44] okay. Yes, sir.

[3:37:45] >> You know, I don't disagree

[3:37:47] with what you just articulated

[3:37:48] because ultimately the

[3:37:49] landowners really need to have

[3:37:49] the water clinging to because

[3:37:51] their water goes off into the

[3:37:53] leak. And one of the things

[3:37:54] that we're trying to focus on.

[3:37:55] And and I keep up with a lot

[3:37:58] of this, is that as just

[3:37:58] articulated from putting up

[3:38:03] the of

[3:38:04] >> We're we're very what we're

[3:38:04] looking for is to make sure

[3:38:07] that we have an individual to

[3:38:09] table order to help protect

[3:38:11] the water here at the lake

[3:38:11] because this water feeds East

[3:38:16] West and South. And it just

[3:38:16] told the commissioners a few

[3:38:17] moments still got the Shingle

[3:38:19] Creek Project coming up and

[3:38:24] that in itself is good. But it

[3:38:25] also has could have bad

[3:38:26] opportunities to them. We need

[3:38:28] to understand that the pros

[3:38:28] and cons of those types of

[3:38:33] things in one, we have an

[3:38:34] organization is seeing these

[3:38:35] in these meetings that cf acs

[3:38:38] and meetings too, make sure

[3:38:38] that the view aggressive

[3:38:39] people, the power point of

[3:38:41] people are putting up on the

[3:38:42] screen, really don't hurt us

[3:38:45] down here either from flooding

[3:38:47] or water quality. That's what

[3:38:50] we need in terms of of your

[3:38:54] type of organization. Now, I

[3:38:54] understand to be mp's and all

[3:38:56] those types these of those are

[3:38:57] important. But the end of the

[3:39:00] day, is that. When we're

[3:39:00] dealing with the water coming

[3:39:03] down from the north, that

[3:39:05] water has cost us severe

[3:39:06] problems, whether it be

[3:39:11] raising the lake. That stuff

[3:39:13] that comes down out of that

[3:39:14] after hurricanes and causes of

[3:39:17] problems with with our late.

[3:39:18] So I kind of agree with agree

[3:39:20] with assessment that, you

[3:39:21] know, the landowners to have

[3:39:22] jet same objectives as we do

[3:39:23] is clean water. I think that's

[3:39:26] the bottom line and also agree

[3:39:27] with the fact there's a whole

[3:39:27] different pot of money that

[3:39:31] the municipalities are are

[3:39:32] counties as just couple

[3:39:34] there's a lot of money's been

[3:39:38] pushed over here for low car.

[3:39:41] And so understand that. And so

[3:39:41] not in a disagreement with

[3:39:44] your assessment, but what I'm

[3:39:46] looking for, I think as

[3:39:47] Commissioner Goodrich the

[3:39:51] other 20% over here is that I

[3:39:52] know what it is. The city,

[3:39:54] some of these meetings and

[3:39:55] boring as all get out. There's

[3:39:58] no doubt about it. Army Corps

[3:39:59] of Engineers can put sleep

[3:39:59] with theirs with their slide

[3:40:02] presentations. But it's

[3:40:06] important for somebody to be

[3:40:07] there because they can they

[3:40:07] can mess you up to in in a

[3:40:11] heartbeat. I totally agree.

[3:40:12] And

[3:40:12] >> the uniqueness of our team

[3:40:17] is the fact that. We can sit

[3:40:19] there and listen to that

[3:40:20] rattling on presentations that

[3:40:24] are meant to. Mystify you into

[3:40:25] saying that their position is

[3:40:30] correct. When reality is we

[3:40:32] have the technical tools to to

[3:40:33] get you know, time out. That's

[3:40:37] not We have the technical

[3:40:37] stuff that we do a lot of

[3:40:39] times don't want to talk

[3:40:40] about. We have that horsepower

[3:40:43] on our team. That we can fight

[3:40:45] back because that's the first

[3:40:46] step is, you know, there's a

[3:40:48] lot of people that talk. They

[3:40:50] talk about policies. They talk

[3:40:51] about this and this is what I

[3:40:51] want to have. And this is what

[3:40:54] we should do. But if you don't

[3:40:55] have the science behind you,

[3:40:57] you don't really have a leg to

[3:40:59] stand on. So if you can prove

[3:41:01] your position by science. That

[3:41:05] it comes back into, you know

[3:41:06] what, you guys the politics

[3:41:06] that, you know, the trying to

[3:41:08] get funding and eccentric

[3:41:10] cetera. So but we have the

[3:41:11] science on our team to really

[3:41:14] kind of. Kind of ferret out a

[3:41:15] lot of the misinformation

[3:41:16] that's going to thrown out at

[3:41:20] you.

[3:41:22] >> I appreciate what you said

[3:41:23] because I sat through some of

[3:41:26] the lowsome meetings. And we

[3:41:27] see that Mother Nature just

[3:41:28] tears lowsome apart. All

[3:41:32] right. And that's that's the

[3:41:33] key that people don't pay

[3:41:34] attention to. His mother

[3:41:35] Nature don't care about all

[3:41:38] these meetings. When they come

[3:41:38] in here with a hurricane or

[3:41:42] 100 year flood or maybe they

[3:41:42] could get your they could care

[3:41:44] less about being peaceful. But

[3:41:46] we need to be able to be

[3:41:47] prepared for those types of

[3:41:52] things. Commissioner, to come.

[3:41:52] >> So I have to probably tell

[3:41:56] a little story, but recently

[3:41:58] an investment group came to

[3:41:59] our town. Wanted to do a water

[3:42:02] project, but come to us. They

[3:42:02] went right to water

[3:42:08] management. Started working

[3:42:10] together and then we heard

[3:42:11] about it basically because

[3:42:12] they never presented it to us.

[3:42:13] And we heard about it. They

[3:42:16] were already they're

[3:42:18] purchasing the property is

[3:42:20] getting involved. And our

[3:42:22] question was because 2

[3:42:22] neighborhoods in an air strip

[3:42:23] in some other things that were

[3:42:26] involved. Why does it have to

[3:42:28] happen here were could create

[3:42:33] a flood zone or impact

[3:42:34] homeowners values and and

[3:42:35] property and different things.

[3:42:36] Why couldn't we move it this

[3:42:38] way or that way? They talked

[3:42:39] about storm water above

[3:42:41] natural ground level and we

[3:42:42] didn't have anybody to go to

[3:42:48] ask. You know, good for us to

[3:42:50] suspend. This will work won't

[3:42:51] work because some of the sta

[3:42:51] son, another border projects

[3:42:52] haven't been successful. We

[3:42:56] know that. Would that be

[3:42:57] something you would go in and

[3:43:00] investigate for us and say,

[3:43:00] listen, this is the best place

[3:43:01] for it or this isn't the best

[3:43:05] place for her. Saying

[3:43:06] question.

[3:43:07] >> That's the beauty of the

[3:43:07] tools that we have. We have

[3:43:09] the entire basis already

[3:43:11] modeled and so we can go in

[3:43:12] there and to use different

[3:43:15] areas. And, you know, maybe

[3:43:16] they have a proposed area Fort

[3:43:17] Week and then evaluate that

[3:43:22] versus other areas.

[3:43:22] >> What we try to do get ahead

[3:43:23] of these projects when they

[3:43:26] first come in because it's

[3:43:29] much easier for a project to

[3:43:30] be successful if state, local

[3:43:32] and all the funding agencies

[3:43:32] actually want to happen

[3:43:33] because it's meeting

[3:43:35] everybody's objectives. It's

[3:43:37] really sad when somebody like

[3:43:39] that comes in and then all of

[3:43:41] a sudden you're the odd man

[3:43:42] out trying to defend yourself

[3:43:43] saying you're going to flood

[3:43:44] by communities when everybody

[3:43:46] else is already saying it's

[3:43:47] almost funded. That's

[3:43:48] counterproductive. What we

[3:43:48] need to do is get everybody at

[3:43:50] the table. We need to use the

[3:43:54] tools that we have. We need to

[3:43:54] make informed decisions based

[3:43:55] on the information that we get

[3:43:57] back from the models and then

[3:44:01] move forward as a team

[3:44:03] together because then they

[3:44:04] hire or greater chance of

[3:44:05] success. So I totally agree

[3:44:07] with you. And I think we have

[3:44:08] the team that can come in and

[3:44:10] assess those things early on

[3:44:10] and we can represent for

[3:44:17] needs. Anyone else.

[3:44:20] >> Okay. Thank you so much.

[3:44:20] Appreciate We will be in

[3:44:28] touch.

[3:44:43] >> Placer.

[3:44:52] Told the commission

[3:44:52] don't. We don't. We number

[3:44:57] one.

[3:44:57] >> Representative, we had

[3:44:58] number 2 presented. This won't

[3:44:59] just won't be binding, but

[3:45:00] this would be opposed win.

[3:45:01] However, everybody, because

[3:45:02] what they're doing. Number one

[3:45:12] or number 2. 1, Somebody want

[3:45:15] to make a motion to

[3:45:17] administrative start

[3:45:18] negotiations. I make a motion

[3:45:21] to I'm sorry. Could I?

[3:45:22] >> In case you want to make

[3:45:23] this part of the negation part

[3:45:26] of the motion looking for a

[3:45:28] cap on the budget and some

[3:45:32] references for you. We have

[3:45:33] lobbyist right now that we pay

[3:45:35] to federal law piece. We pay

[3:45:36] 30,000 East State lobbyist. We

[3:45:39] pay 60,000, but while staff is

[3:45:41] negotiating.

[3:45:45] >> With the number one and

[3:45:46] ksat doesn't work out that we

[3:45:47] got to go to number 2. Is what

[3:45:50] cap?

[3:45:51] >> I'm not. But that number

[3:45:52] one and number 2 is not my

[3:45:53] ranking. If it doesn't go the

[3:45:55] one, I go back to the drawing

[3:45:56] board. Okay. Then what I cap

[3:45:57] of a budget that you like

[3:46:01] cheap.

[3:46:05] >> And you go, wait a minute

[3:46:06] later research and maybe look

[3:46:07] and see what other

[3:46:11] municipalities. We change I

[3:46:14] did. And there's a range of

[3:46:18] for water. Quality service is

[3:46:18] between 40,080 1000 with

[3:46:19] senior level, meaning probably

[3:46:24] engineering. You know, more so

[3:46:24] between 40 and 80 s what I

[3:46:28] would think that range.

[3:46:28] >> So there's recap what you

[3:46:29] want. You want to you 1000 as

[3:46:32] a cap.

[3:46:36] >> I don't know enough say I

[3:46:36] don't I hate know how telling

[3:46:39] you that we have a cap.

[3:46:40] >> based on the fact of the

[3:46:42] service said that, you

[3:46:46] outlined in the rf well, for

[3:46:46] those that rfp Rfq part of

[3:46:47] based on the service said, I

[3:46:55] mean, just don't said Camp.

[3:46:56] Let's do a range visitors

[3:46:57] because we can't that was

[3:47:00] going to be another.

[3:47:01] >> But w w I was opened the

[3:47:07] door when it was talk. This

[3:47:07] will take time. Was what you

[3:47:10] need know I don't think

[3:47:12] putting the cap this is is

[3:47:16] like. You've already. You've

[3:47:28] already outlined The matter.

[3:47:29] >> I do have say properly what

[3:47:31] I'm thinking, but

[3:47:34] >> it's almost like a brother.

[3:47:35] Rather look at the menu first.

[3:47:35] You know what this is what

[3:47:38] will offer for this amount? I

[3:47:39] don't know what a cap, but I

[3:47:43] don't know what the typical

[3:47:44] price of company that provides

[3:47:46] it services have never it.

[3:47:47] They provided to me. You know,

[3:47:49] if you look at that. But they

[3:47:55] tell you what they on the day.

[3:47:56] What will mean. Look r#

[3:47:56] #

[3:47:57] ,

[3:47:57] the presentation that we

[3:48:00] received from number one.

[3:48:04] >> on the less than $80,000.

[3:48:06] Well, that was to this point.

[3:48:06] Don't even know if I'm allowed

[3:48:08] to say that cause is not for

[3:48:09] us to negotiate, but I know

[3:48:10] we're trying to decide whether

[3:48:12] or not there should be kept. A

[3:48:17] pretty well human people.

[3:48:17] Believe that you have to

[3:48:18] understand what they're doing,

[3:48:19] that they all that group of

[3:48:22] people off variety of

[3:48:22] services.

[3:48:26] >> We are asking for one

[3:48:27] service right right

[3:48:28] Everybody's not include.

[3:48:28] That's exactly right. None of

[3:48:32] the they're just given us

[3:48:34] report tree what they offer.

[3:48:37] Well, they offer grant writing

[3:48:39] help, offer negotiating

[3:48:40] healthy. That idea But right

[3:48:44] now you can be heard. Todd.

[3:48:45] >> all along, not the right

[3:48:47] with the grant writing. Well,

[3:48:49] if you need it here, I got you

[3:48:54] a grant and we will this is

[3:48:55] the additional costs. And

[3:48:55] that's how in you all of, you

[3:48:56] know, exactly we're going to

[3:48:57] we'll start out with this. But

[3:49:00] if we need, it something else

[3:49:01] really know them to go. But go

[3:49:04] to you and say what you charge

[3:49:05] to if we need to grant writer,

[3:49:06] how much would you charge to

[3:49:10] that? So are presented team.

[3:49:12] We're not going for the team.

[3:49:14] We're just going for a job.

[3:49:14] You're just as what someone

[3:49:15] just feed. You get any when

[3:49:16] you need. Have you know what

[3:49:27] the said. 8 when should

[3:49:27] negotiate, integrates 8 for

[3:49:28] your representative to do what

[3:49:30] with what said. We want it

[3:49:31] done than to go. Give you a

[3:49:33] fee if you need to senior

[3:49:34] engineers x amount, if you

[3:49:35] need to JANUARY engineers and

[3:49:37] then you can't have a cap of

[3:49:38] any description because

[3:49:39] Stanley Feet. And as you get

[3:49:40] in the one person only.

[3:49:41] >> The rest of them are as

[3:49:43] needed.

[3:49:47] >> Well, last time when we

[3:49:47] negotiated of started national

[3:49:53] floors, chair. Last time when

[3:49:54] we chose the attorneys we

[3:49:57] wanted, then we gave. The

[3:50:01] administrator the ability to

[3:50:05] go and negotiate with him. I

[3:50:06] don't know if seems like it

[3:50:07] probably be another good. A

[3:50:10] good way to to handle this she

[3:50:11] would come back to us and say,

[3:50:12] look, this is what we I mean,

[3:50:18] that would be my that would be

[3:50:19] recommendation. Think she I

[3:50:20] you to a certain degree

[3:50:21] because I don't I don't want

[3:50:23] to put caps on things. I agree

[3:50:24] 100% because I think what you

[3:50:26] need to do is let her go and

[3:50:26] negotiate years.

[3:50:27] >> Here's a service that let

[3:50:30] them if they come back say,

[3:50:31] listen, give it to you on a

[3:50:32] per hour basis and to do this

[3:50:34] is going to take x amount of

[3:50:37] hours. 5 meetings, 6 hours.

[3:50:40] All right. Whatever MAY be.

[3:50:40] And then they answer your

[3:50:44] question. If we given time.

[3:50:49] It's just like on. We're step

[3:50:49] steps. Fire. If if an steps

[3:50:54] organization. On cmt is that

[3:50:56] chips to do. You have a guy

[3:50:57] that does and then we would

[3:51:00] her that person to do next.

[3:51:02] The same thing with this piece

[3:51:04] they they provided a litany of

[3:51:05] services. So if you come in

[3:51:06] here the next week and you say

[3:51:10] want to do grant ready, then

[3:51:10] you'd hire that individual to

[3:51:12] do. Grant writing for out

[3:51:15] Peart for all hourly basis.

[3:51:15] And that's what she's going to

[3:51:16] get the upper hourly basis

[3:51:19] because that you don't know

[3:51:20] how unless you go set the

[3:51:21] number of meetings, you

[3:51:25] meetings and You because

[3:51:25] that's what you're asking.

[3:51:27] You're asking to go to

[3:51:27] meetings and give information.

[3:51:28] Why don't we do this little we

[3:51:31] live here negotiate and bring

[3:51:31] it back.

[3:51:32] >> If it does, if you can't

[3:51:33] negotiate something, the board

[3:51:35] approves him to go back to the

[3:51:37] drawing board. Don't go to the

[3:51:38] second right MAY be set up

[3:51:39] kind of like think you are

[3:51:42] like a retainer. There's

[3:51:43] retainer for certain amount.

[3:51:44] And if you go past that, then

[3:51:47] it's time to feed the kitty or

[3:51:48] if you haven't been using this

[3:51:51] service for a while, you know,

[3:51:52] maybe they'll give us a chance

[3:51:53] to use the grant service

[3:51:54] because there's been no

[3:51:54] meetings for a while. So it's

[3:51:57] just been sitting simmering.

[3:52:00] So but I don't know enough

[3:52:02] negotiate this more time will

[3:52:03] be twice of going. And I agree

[3:52:05] with I've got MARCH air. One

[3:52:06] other question because I

[3:52:08] wasn't here when this all got

[3:52:09] started. Was there any amount

[3:52:15] budgeted for this? No. Okay.

[3:52:16] First woman hold coming answer

[3:52:19] the question directly. There

[3:52:20] not an amount budgeted yet

[3:52:21] because we're going to start

[3:52:24] doing the budget. So I

[3:52:25] answered it appropriately.

[3:52:27] From that standpoint. So are

[3:52:31] we all in favor of that? Will?

[3:52:34] >> So MISS Manzo loose on him.

[3:52:38] >> The requested action. Is to

[3:52:39] authorize the county

[3:52:39] administrator to begin

[3:52:40] negotiations with the top rate

[3:52:42] from there you go.

[3:52:46] >> Do you have MISTER Chair

[3:52:47] the 7 Day b d you have.

[3:52:54] >> And authority. Cap number

[3:52:55] that you can sign without

[3:52:59] bringing it back to us. No,

[3:53:01] yes, no, not that, you I'm

[3:53:02] MISS. Do for us? You've got to

[3:53:09] come back to us. General, But

[3:53:10] in this instance, it needs to

[3:53:14] come back to which is fine. In

[3:53:15] general, she could have a cap.

[3:53:15] But the problem is that her

[3:53:18] cat wouldn't pay for

[3:53:19] >> So that's that's the

[3:53:19] intent. Was that direction?

[3:53:20] Now? That was answer to the

[3:53:24] question. So she already has

[3:53:27] to bring it back to us because

[3:53:28] dollar. So I guess made the

[3:53:31] motion or do I mean speak the

[3:53:33] motion or she made the motion.

[3:53:34] MAY removed motion. He's got a

[3:53:38] second. Some. I move that we

[3:53:40] do what I said. We motion by

[3:53:43] Commissioner. Good bread, too.

[3:53:44] Include all the verbiage you

[3:53:46] missed. Just didn't Second by

[3:53:47] commissioner to Carlo any

[3:53:50] further discussion. Negative

[3:53:57] attorney smiling. She smiled.

[3:53:58] You got get keep it that all

[3:54:00] in favor say Aye. Aye opposed.

[3:54:01] Nay motion carries

[3:54:02] unanimously.

[3:54:03] >> Anything else? For the good

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