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» Got it. Roll call.
>> Roll call.
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» Hug.
>> Here.
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» Melton. Row.
>> Here.
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» Festerson.
>> Here.
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» Goodwin.
>> Here.
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» Harding.
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» Mr. President.
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» Please stand for the Pledge of
Allegiance and remain standing for
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opening remarks by council member Ron
Hug.
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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America,
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to the republic for which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible, with
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liberty and justice for all.
>> Be seated.
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Welcome to everybody to Omaha from
across the world to
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wonderful College World Series.
Uh Mr. President, we have such an
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important agenda today. I think we
should move forward.
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» Thank you.
>> An affidavit of publication is on file
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and a current copy of the open meeting
act is posted in a white binder on the
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east wall of legislative chambers.
>> Good afternoon. Welcome to this meeting
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of the Omaha City Council. As a courtesy
to those in attendance and to facilitate
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the conduct of our business, we ask that
you please silence or turn off all
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electronic devices.
A reminder, you will have 3 minutes to
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speak on an agenda item. Please stay on
topic.
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For those not providing in-person
testimony and would like your comments
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entered into the public record, you can
email the city clerk's office
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at cityclerk@cityofomaha.org.
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Council members receive these emails and
read them.
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Finally, council members may ask members
of the audience back up for clarifying
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questions, but not for extra time to
speak.
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I like to remind council members to
speak clearly into the microphones so
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audience members in attendance
and at home can hear. And those that are
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going to speak today at our podium,
please get between the two microphones
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so we can hear you and they can hear you
at home as well. Thank you.
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» Item six, to consider a Class C liquor
license for There There, located at 3020
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Leavenworth Street, Suite 1.
>> The public hearing is now open on item
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six. Ms. Talley, good afternoon.
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» Good afternoon.
My name is Catina Talley, um 2407
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Hanscom Boulevard, Omaha, Nebraska.
And I own a few businesses here around
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town, [clears throat] the newest of
which will be Via Farina,
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um located at 3020 11th Street, Suite 1.
>> [snorts]
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» Um it's a joint venture with my partner
Ivy Sutton. We will be opening a all-day
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cafe and wine bar specializing in
European-inspired
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dishes and low-intervention wines.
Uh hours of operation would be 7:00 a.m.
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to 11:00 p.m. And we're hoping to open
in August.
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» Thank you. Stay close, I might have a
couple questions for you when we're
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done. Thanks. Are there any proponents
on item six here today that wish to
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speak?
Seeing none, are there any opponents?
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Public hearing is closed. Miss Talley,
uh couple questions for you.
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You mentioned other businesses you have
in Midtown. Can you share with us what
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those businesses are that you currently
have?
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» I can, yes. I own Sweet Magnolias Bake
Shop. Um we have two locations here in
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Omaha. And I also own No Good Bagels and
Brunch at also operating two locations
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here in Omaha.
>> And this is your
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next venture and I I know based on your
other businesses and
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one's in Millworks and one's in in two
are in my district, actually.
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Um I know you're going to be successful
and you're also active in the Hanscom
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Park Neighborhood Association, correct?
>> I am, yes.
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» And you're from Friend, Nebraska, so I
don't know if anybody's from Friend,
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Nebraska.
Uh we're we're glad to
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Yeah, we're really glad to have you
here. Uh tell us about the
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European-style plates that you'll have.
Kind of tell us about those a little
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bit.
>> Yeah, um
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I mean, working with my my partner, Ivy,
we're both um drawn to
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European-style
cafes, um looking to lean into some
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tinned fish options, bring that a little
bit more of that to Omaha.
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Um some like lighter-style breakfast,
toasts, leaning into like some
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sandwiches and and salads and such in
the in the lunch hour, and then some
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handmade pasta in the evenings.
>> Okay, well, look forward to getting down
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there when you get open and I I can't
make a motion to support this, but I'm
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certainly supportive and thanks again
for your being a great small business
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owner in Midtown.
>> Of course, I try.
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» Got a motion and a second. No further
lights, roll call.
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» Hug. Melton. Row. Festersen. Goodwin.
Harding.
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» Yes.
>> Mr. President.
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» Aye.
>> Motion passed 7-0.
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Item seven, to consider a Class C liquor
license for San Patricio's Cantina and
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Pub, located at 3232 L Street.
>> Public hearing is now open on item
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seven. I believe we have the applicant
by Zoom or Zoom right in front of me
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here. All right.
Good afternoon.
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» Good afternoon. My name is Francisco and
I bought Donahue's Pub from Mike a
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couple weeks back. It's been a bar for
26 years
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and we are keeping it an Irish bar and
grill and we're
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open to continue to be open. We're
currently open.
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Uh we're on a temporary operating
permit.
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» Okay, we might have some questions for
you. Thank you. Do we Do we get his
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Do we get your address?
>> Uh 3232 L Street, Omaha, Nebraska.
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» And your first and last name?
>> Francisco Gonzalez.
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» Thank you.
Are there any proponents on item seven
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here today?
Seeing none, are there any opponents?
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Public hearing is closed. Council member
Hug, you're recognized.
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» Well, I certainly appreciate you taking
the name Saint Patrick. Um
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the former St. Patrick's Church
meant so much to the South Omaha
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community.
Uh I don't know if you know the history,
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but it's originally built in 1910.
Um
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and it served the immigrant community
for 60 years until it stopped being a
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basically a church in the mid-70s.
And uh
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so I appreciate that tip of the hat to
the heritage in Omaha, especially to the
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immigrant community.
Um also a little fact you may not know,
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uh Father Flanagan of Boys Town,
>> Yeah.
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» he came to Omaha as associate pastor at
St. Patrick's Church. So the very
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historical church name, a lot of history
in South Omaha.
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So does Donahue's.
>> Yes.
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» And uh you know, Donahue's has been part
of the fabric of South Omaha for 26
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years, which in bar terms is a long
time.
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» Yeah.
>> And hopefully you you hopefully you get
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to find that out.
>> Yeah, we're trying.
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» Um so you're going to continue with the
Tuesday dinners cuz I've had a lot of
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questions about that.
>> pork and dumplings, we had it today and
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thank God we had a full house.
>> Well, that's good and I and I hope that
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continues.
And
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but the single thing
that my constituents have asked me
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about,
and uh this is very important to me
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personally as well, is the mural on the
side of the building.
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» Yes, Mike told me about it and we are
keeping the mural. Uh we have no
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intentions to take it out. We were going
to ask uh if there's any possibility um
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and we're willing to pay for this, but
we're trying to get some light inside.
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So all the four windows, including the
kitchen window, are currently covered by
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the mural.
So I wanted to contact the artist and
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see if there's any opportunity to maybe
make them into an awning and and make it
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as non-disruptive as possible.
And if it's not possible, then we'll
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keep the awning. Um you know, we we
really like it. We want to light it up,
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so we uh have an electrician quoting us
so that at night people can see it. Uh
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make it viewable to the passing uh
cars during the day and during the
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night.
>> Yeah, there's a lot of history in that
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mural. Um
I was not part of that mural, but I was
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part of the Little Italy mural.
And I know
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firsthand all the work and the history
and the thought that went into that
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mural. And I know for sure that that
went into that mural on the side of your
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building, too.
Although we cannot make that a condition
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of your liquor license today, I assure
you if I could, I would.
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» [laughter]
>> So,
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but uh as long as you've talked to Mike
and Mike's expressed that, you know, the
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community's concerned about saving that
mural,
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and you we have your word here today
that I make a motion we approve.
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» Second.
>> Got a motion and a second. No further
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lights. Roll call.
>> Hug.
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» Yes.
>> Melton.
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» Yes.
>> Rowe.
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» Yes.
>> Sturgeson.
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» Yes.
>> Goodwin.
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» Yes.
>> Harding.
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» Yes.
>> Mr. President.
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» Aye.
>> Motion passed 7 to 0.
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» Thank you.
>> Item eight, to consider a Class A liquor
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license for Craft Axe Omaha located at
2562 Leavenworth Street, Suite 100.
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» Public hearing is now open on item
number eight. I believe Mr. Murphy is on
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Zoom. Can you hear us, Mr. Murphy?
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I think you're muted. We can't hear you
yet.
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» Okay, now you should hear me.
>> We got you. Get your name and address.
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Good afternoon.
>> Good afternoon. Uh my name is Sean
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Murphy at 2562 Leavenworth Street, Suite
100. Um applying for a Class A liquor
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license for Craft Axe Omaha.
>> Thank you.
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Are there any proponents here on item
eight?
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Seeing none, are there any opponents?
Public hearing is closed.
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This is in my district. Just a quick
question for you, Mr. Murphy. Is
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anything changing other than the
ownership?
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» Uh, primarily things will be the same.
Um,
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uh, we are doing some minor aesthetic
updates on the inside to help, um,
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elevate the space and bring it more in
line with what, uh,
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and modern expectations are. Um,
my wife is the creative director, so
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she's adding a a little bit, not too
crazy, but a little bit of feminine
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touch. It's looking a lot, we're getting
things done, but looks a lot better. Um,
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but otherwise much will be the same.
>> Okay, and how about the the operating
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hours?
>> Uh, we are operating from 4:00 to 9:00
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on Wednesday and Thursday.
Um,
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3:00 to 11:00 on Friday, 12:00 to 11:00
on Saturday, and 12:00 to 7:00 on
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Sunday.
>> Okay. I can't make a motion to support
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this, but I wish you the best of luck
and continued at that location. Thank
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you.
>> Thank you.
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» Got a motion and a second. No further
lights, roll call.
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» Hug. Melton.
Rowe. Peterson. Goodwin. Harding. Mr.
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President.
>> I.
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» Motion passed 7 to 0.
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Item nine to consider a liquor license
addition application for Meadowlark
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Lounge located at 3302 Leavenworth
Street 10 an outdoor area.
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» Public hearing is now open on item nine.
Applicants here today? Good afternoon,
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gentlemen.
>> Hey, uh, Ross Coley, 2438 South 48th
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Avenue, Omaha, Nebraska.
>> Mike Wiedemier.
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» 1109 Howard Street, Omaha, Nebraska.
>> Thank you. Are there any proponents here
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today on item nine?
Seeing none, are there any opponents?
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Public hearing is closed. Mr. Coley,
good afternoon. Just you're adding on a
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deck on the north end of the building,
correct?
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» Correct. Yeah. Um
there's a stairwell there currently now
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that'll go into our basement, which is
an addition we're working on now for
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renovation. And it'll be kind of right
above that.
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Uh right now the smoking section
is right out the front door, which is
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right next to the
33rd. So
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» Sure.
>> I think it's definitely going to be a
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much safer option for
everyone that's a patron of our building
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you know, partakes in that. Plus people
coming in and out, just keeping that
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area as less cluttered as we can.
>> Great.
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» So I'll certainly be supportive of this
here today. Thanks for coming down.
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» Got a motion and a second. Roll call.
>> Hug.
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» Yes.
>> Melton.
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» Yes.
>> Rowe.
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» Yes.
>> Festersen.
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» Yes.
>> Goodwin.
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» Yes.
>> Harding.
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» Yes.
>> Mr. President.
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» Aye.
>> Motion passed 7 to 0.
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» Thank you for all your service. We
appreciate it. Also, congratulations and
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good luck. I'm dating a Donahue. So I
know how important it is to the
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community. So best of luck to you.
>> Yeah, thanks a
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» [laughter]
>> Lots always have a lot.
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» Item 10, a resolution to approve a
special use permit to allow automotive
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sales in the CC district located at 4801
Q Street. Planning Board and Planning
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Department recommend approval.
>> The public hearing is now open on item
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10. Is the applicant here today?
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Are there any proponents on item 10?
Seeing none, are there any opponents?
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Public hearing is closed.
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» Move to approve.
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» Got a motion and a second. Roll call.
>> Hug.
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» No.
>> Melton.
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» Yes.
>> Rowe.
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» Yes.
>> Festersen.
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» No.
>> Goodwin.
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» No.
>> Harding.
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» Yes.
>> Mr. President.
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» No.
>> Motion failed, three to four.
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Consent agenda, any member of the City
Council may cause any item placed on the
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consent agenda to be removed. Items
removed from the consent agenda shall be
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taken up by the City Council immediately
following the consent agenda in the
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order in which they were removed unless
otherwise provided by the City Council
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rules of order.
>> The public hearings on agenda items 11
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through 15 were held on June 9th, 2026.
>> I move to approve.
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» Second.
>> Got a motion and a second. Roll call.
[35:09]
» Hug.
>> Yes.
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» Melton.
>> Yes.
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» Rowe.
>> Yes.
[35:11]
» Festersen.
>> Yes.
[35:12]
» Goodwin.
>> Yes.
[35:13]
» Harding.
>> Yes.
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» Mr. President.
>> Aye.
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» Motion passed, seven to zero.
>> The public hearings on agenda items 16
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through 24 are today. If you wish to
address the City Council regarding these
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items, please come to the microphone,
indicate the agenda item
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number you wish to address, identify
yourself by your name, address, who you
[35:34]
represent, and if you are a proponent or
opponent.
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I will open the public hearing on 16
through 24.
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Are there any proponents?
Seeing none, are there any opponents?
[36:00]
» Larry Storer, 515 Lafayette Avenue,
Omaha, 68132.
[36:05]
I'm opposed to number 24.
I don't believe that Mr. Fazal has
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enough transparency in his
pockets to be a good representative.
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Nobody's been able to fix this dot com
system over the last 8 years that I've
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been attending.
These speakers are a a real bad system.
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It should have been done long uh fixed
long ago. Thank you.
[36:29]
» Thank you. Are there any other opponents
here on items 16 through 24?
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Public hearing is closed.
>> Motion to approve items 16 through 24.
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» Got a motion and a second. Roll call.
>> Hug.
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» Yes.
>> Melton.
[36:44]
» Yes.
>> Yes.
[36:45]
» Festersen.
>> Yes.
[36:46]
» Goodwin.
>> Yes.
[36:47]
» Harding.
>> Yes.
[36:48]
» Mr. President.
>> I.
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» Motion passed 7 to 0.
Item 25, an ordinance levying a special
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tax and assessment on real estate for
snow and ice removal from sidewalks
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district number SWS R 2025-01.
>> I will now open the public hearing on
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item 25. Are there any proponents?
Seeing none, are there any opponents?
[37:13]
Public hearing is closed.
>> Item 26, an ordinance to transfer a
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permanent easement and land to MUD to
relocate facilities on city city-owned
[37:22]
property located near the southeast
corner of North 21st Street and Pratt
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Street.
>> Public hearing is now open on item 26.
[37:30]
Are there any proponents?
Seeing none, are there any opponents?
[37:36]
Public hearing is closed.
>> Item 27, an ordinance to authorize BMX
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Omaha to host the USA BMX National Event
and to allow for overnight camping and
[37:46]
parking at Hefflinger Park from July
29th to August 2nd.
[37:50]
» The public hearing is now open on item
27. Are there any proponents?
[37:56]
Seeing none, are there any opponents?
Public hearing is closed.
[38:02]
» Item 28, an ordinance to amend sections
of chapter 11 of the Omaha Municipal
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Code relating to mobile food vendors. A
is communication set opposition. B is
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amendment of the whole requested by the
law department.
[38:13]
» Public hearing is now open on item 28.
Are there any proponents?
[38:20]
Seeing none, are there any opponents?
Public hearing is closed. Council member
[38:25]
Festersen, you're recognized.
>> Thanks, Mr. President. I just wanted to
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have an opportunity to clarify this
issue, which was confusing for folks, I
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think in previous weeks, but I think has
been corrected by this amendment of the
[38:36]
whole.
So, as we are not discouraging food
[38:39]
trucks throughout the city, and they are
not required to return to a permanent
[38:44]
kitchen every 24 hours. Mr. Cozzi, would
you Would you be the right one just to
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kind of give a summary of the amendment
of the whole?
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» I'm sorry, the planning department and I
were discussing the special use permit.
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With regard to the amendment of the
whole, the only change that was made
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from the previous version that appeared
in front of the council was the removal
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of the requirement that the um
food trucks, for lack of a better word,
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have to return to a commissary every
day, at some point every day.
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» Yeah, thank you. So, that's not will not
be required under city ordinance should
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this be approved.
>> That was That is not required under the
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city ordinance.
>> Thanks. Motion to approve the amendment
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of the whole.
>> I
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I next time
>> Oh. Oh, thank you. And I I wanted to
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open the public hearing, Mr. Store. I
miss you if you wanted to speak in
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opposition to that. The floor is yours.
>> I'll go ahead and open it again.
[39:38]
Is it all right if I open it again?
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Larry Store, 5015 Lafayette Avenue,
Omaha, 68132.
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I am opposed to this because I do drive
around Omaha a lot, and I see these food
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trucks all over the place.
And in some cases, they're on somebody's
[39:55]
private property.
I don't think that's proper. The big
[39:58]
example of this
is Hamilton at Northwest Highway, Radio
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Highway.
Right uh
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west of uh Mega Saver. Two restaurants,
two
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uh quick trip type restaurants right on
those corners.
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And these food trucks are parked on
somebody's private property
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on the corner of Northwestern Hamilton.
It just so happens that the guy that
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owns that property is on one of your
committees.
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He has let the property on Northwest
Saddle Creek Drive deteriorate over the
[40:32]
years into something that is
much worse than others.
[40:37]
Uh and uh obviously he's going for
TIF financing.
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He's allowing that
lot where the old uh
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car lot was
to be used for
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food vendors to
vendors out of the truck of their cars.
[40:55]
That's private property. He's got it up
for sale. He should not be allowing
[40:58]
that.
And they should not be allowed to go
[41:01]
onto a church property
and back up into the corner to sell
[41:05]
their goods.
This is just getting a lot of out of
[41:09]
whack. Thank you.
[41:13]
» Thank you. I will now close the public
hearing on item 28.
[41:21]
» Item 29, an ordinance to create a new
chapter of the Omaha Municipal Code to
[41:25]
govern the establishment,
implementation, and enforcement of a
[41:28]
minimum wage. A's communication in
support, B's communication in
[41:31]
opposition.
>> Public hearing is now open on item
[41:34]
number 29. Are there any proponents who
wish to speak on this item today?
[41:41]
» Yes, there is. I got a list right here.
[41:46]
» Mr. Owen Fusel, you were the first one
to sign in. Please come up to the
[41:52]
And the next one to keep this going in a
timely manner, Eric Rider
[41:56]
is the next one.
The floor is yours. Thank you.
[41:59]
» Good afternoon, presidents and members
of the Omaha president and members of
[42:03]
the Omaha City Council. My name's Owen
Fusel. I live at 309 South 57th Street,
[42:08]
Omaha, Nebraska 68132.
Um and I'm speaking today on behalf of
[42:13]
New Voices, um, which is the only
youth-led statewide, non-partisan civic
[42:18]
engagement organization in Nebraska. Um,
and we're dedicated to making civic
[42:22]
engagement fun, um, and more accessible
for every Nebraskan. Um, first I want to
[42:27]
thank Council Member Danny Begley for
introducing this ordinance to establish
[42:31]
a standardized minimum wage for all
workers in Omaha. Um, this proposal
[42:36]
recognizes a simple truth.
Uh, if young people are doing the same
[42:40]
work, they deserve to be paid fairly for
that work. At New Voices, we work every
[42:44]
day to help young Nebraskans participate
in their communities, engage in local
[42:49]
governments, and make their voices
heard.
[42:51]
But civic engagement is difficult when
basic necessities are out of reach.
[42:55]
Many young workers rely on their
paychecks to cover essential expenses
[42:59]
such as gas to get to school or work,
phone bills to stay connected, and food
[43:04]
to meet their daily needs.
When young people are paid less simply
[43:07]
because of their age, it becomes harder
for them to afford these necessities and
[43:11]
fully participate in community life.
And fair wages are not just an economic
[43:15]
issue, they are a civic engagement
issue. When young people have greater
[43:19]
financial stability, um, we know that
they're better able to attend community
[43:23]
meetings, volunteer, or participate in
local organizations, um, and generally
[43:27]
stay informed about the issues that
directly affect their lives. Um, they
[43:31]
gain the time, resources, and confidence
needed to become active members of our
[43:36]
democracy.
Um, this ordinance sends a powerful
[43:39]
message that Omaha values the
contributions of all of its workers,
[43:43]
regardless of age. Um, and it affirms
that people deserve dignity, respect,
[43:48]
and a fair opportunity to support
themselves while building skills and
[43:51]
experience.
Um, on behalf of New Voices, I urge you
[43:55]
to support this ordinance and ensure
that all workers in Omaha receive the
[43:59]
same minimum wage protections. Thank you
for your time and consideration.
[44:03]
» Thank you.
[44:06]
Next speaker is Eric Ryder, followed by
Tamaya Wright.
[44:17]
» All right, thank you. Uh my name is Eric
Ryder, and I'm here today on behalf of
[44:21]
Voices for Children in Nebraska.
For nearly 40 years, our organization
[44:25]
has worked to elevate the voices of
children and youth and to advance public
[44:30]
policies that ensure all young people
can grow up safe, healthy, and supported
[44:33]
in their communities. It is in that
spirit that we are here in support of
[44:37]
this ordinance, which would establish a
minimum wage for the city of Omaha
[44:41]
without carve-outs based on age.
Our concern with recent state action,
[44:46]
particularly LB 258, is its impact on
young workers. The real- The reality is
[44:52]
that young people in our community are
not working to spend extra money. They
[44:56]
are working to meet basic needs. Many
are helping pay for groceries,
[45:00]
transportation, and housing. Some are
supporting themselves, and others are
[45:04]
contributing to their families. For
these young workers, wages are not about
[45:08]
convenience, they are about survival.
Consider housing. A full-time
[45:13]
minimum-wage worker cannot afford a
one-bedroom rental at fair-market rates.
[45:18]
While affordable rent would need to be
closer to 600 a month, average rents are
[45:22]
nearly 900. That gap means a worker
would need more than one full-time job
[45:26]
just to keep up before even accounting
for food, transportation, or health
[45:31]
care. Lowering wages for young workers
only makes these challenges more severe.
[45:36]
This ordinance takes a different
approach. It recognizes the value of all
[45:40]
workers and ensures that wages reflect
the real cost of living in our
[45:44]
community, regardless of age. That
matters not just for young people today,
[45:48]
but for the long-term stability of
families in Omaha.
[45:51]
It's also important to note that
Nebraska voters have already made their
[45:54]
voices clear. They overwhelmingly
supported increasing the minimum wage
[45:58]
without age-based exceptions. This
ordinance aligns with that intent and
[46:03]
ensures that local policy reflects the
will of the people.
[46:06]
All families deserve the opportunity to
thrive and economic security is
[46:10]
foundational to that goal.
By supporting this ordinance, you are
[46:14]
investing in the well-being of young
people and helping to build a stronger,
[46:18]
more stable future for Omaha. We
respectfully urge the council to approve
[46:22]
this ordinance. Thank you for your time
and consideration.
[46:25]
» Mr. Ryder, can we get your address also
for the record? I forgot to get that at
[46:28]
the
>> Uh certainly, it is 319 South 17th
[46:31]
Street, Suite 212, Omaha, Nebraska
68102.
[46:36]
» Thank you.
Our next speaker is Tamaya Wright,
[46:40]
followed by Joseph Prime,
followed by C.J. King.
[46:50]
» Good afternoon. My name is Tamaya
Wright. I'm representing Voices for
[46:54]
Children. Address is 319 South 17th
Street, Suite 212, Omaha, Nebraska
[47:01]
68102.
I support having a standard minimum wage
[47:05]
for all employees regardless of the age
because young people deserve to be paid
[47:09]
fairly.
Many adults believe that young people
[47:12]
just want extra money to spend it
irresponsibly, but that is far from the
[47:15]
case.
Majority of teens use it to support
[47:19]
their household, save for college, pay
for transportation, and etc.
[47:24]
Lowering the minimum wage shows that our
work is looked less on and just simply
[47:29]
because we are younger. Raising the
minimum wage and having a standard
[47:33]
minimum wage shows that our work is
recognized, respected, and for the
[47:37]
contributions that we make to our
workplace and community.
[47:42]
Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[47:55]
» My name is Joseph Prime. I live at 6630
Bedford Avenue. I am 16 years old. I
[48:01]
have two jobs. I work at Runza and I am
a lifeguard at the Keystone Club pool. I
[48:07]
also have completed the Cadet Fire
program in Irvington and now serve as a
[48:11]
volunteer fireman.
I work with people who are as young as
[48:14]
14 and as old as anybody on this board.
We are all expected to pull our weight,
[48:19]
work hard, and do the best jobs that we
can and I strive to do just that. I
[48:24]
don't treat any of my coworkers
differently based on their age and I
[48:27]
expect to be treated as an equal by
everyone else regardless of age.
[48:31]
At my high school, it was a big deal to
turn 16. However, the school doesn't
[48:35]
treat us any differently. We aren't
graded on a curve depending on our age.
[48:40]
The standards we have to meet are not
age dependent. When I got my driver's
[48:44]
license, my grandfather gave me a car
but made it clear that the insurance and
[48:47]
re-registration of the car was going to
be my responsibility.
[48:51]
When it comes to registering my car,
they don't ask your age. They charge the
[48:55]
same amount regardless, but that's not
true of the insurance. My insurance is
[48:59]
significantly higher based solely upon
my age. That's right, it's significantly
[49:03]
higher, not lower. But my employer
hasn't decided to give me an increase to
[49:07]
reflect that expense. So, I am here to
say today that I don't think there's any
[49:11]
reason to give lower wages to someone
based solely on their age. I don't think
[49:15]
it's appropriate for someone that's too
old or too young and I hope that you
[49:19]
will pass this order ordinance and
ensure that everyone in the city of
[49:23]
Omaha is treated with respect and not
discriminated against based
[49:27]
discriminated against based solely on
the year that they were born. Thank you.
[49:31]
» Thank you.
Next speaker is C.J. King followed by
[49:38]
T.V. Anna Robinson.
>> Uh Clarence King 602 North 85th Street.
[49:44]
I am the chair of the Douglas County
Democratic Party and I'll disclose I'm
[49:48]
Joe's grandfather. Um I Sorry you're
here. I really am and I mean that
[49:53]
because this was decided at the state
level, and it should have you shouldn't
[49:57]
be in this position.
I think Eric said it passed I I believe
[50:01]
it was about 60% statewide.
I took a look I in the city of Omaha, it
[50:06]
passed by greater than 70%, and not only
that, and I don't know how how often
[50:11]
this happens for anything that's that
has opposition, but it passed in every
[50:14]
single precinct.
Councilman Roy, you had one precinct
[50:18]
that was a dead tie, 245 a piece. Every
other single precinct it passed. Okay,
[50:23]
so this is about democracy, and it's
about respecting the will of the people,
[50:26]
and I don't understand what happened in
a bipartisan way. I will I will
[50:30]
absolutely owe it to say that to you in
a bipartisan way in the legislature,
[50:35]
they put in some rules that were highly
inappropriate, but in the city council,
[50:39]
I hope you'll you'll understand what the
city of Omaha voted for and respect the
[50:43]
will of the people.
In addition to looking at the the votes,
[50:47]
I also I went back and I I read the
transcript of the hearing, the first
[50:51]
hearing on the bill, and there were a
couple arguments made, and one of the
[50:55]
arguments was made really kind of galled
at me. They said this is going to create
[50:59]
more jobs for for young people. And uh
we're in a we're in a we're in a world
[51:05]
now where we celebrate the
the world's first trillionaire.
[51:09]
And it just it bothers the hell out of
me if we're going to tell if we're going
[51:13]
to tell 14 and 15-year-olds the only way
their their fellow students can have a
[51:17]
job is if they're willing to take a
little bit less. If my grandson works 20
[51:21]
hours, I don't think he should pinch him
for 30 bucks and say that's the only way
[51:24]
this economy works because that's not it
at all. So, I just think it's
[51:28]
appropriate that we that we correct this
error that was made in the legislature.
[51:32]
Again, I apologize it's on your
shoulders, but thank you.
[51:35]
» Thank you. Next speaker is Taviana
Robinson. I hope I got that right the
[51:40]
second time. All right, thank you. The
next speaker after that will be Malia
[51:45]
Moulton following. Thank you.
>> Good afternoon. My name is Taviana
[51:49]
Robinson. I'm here today presenting
Voices for Children in Nebraska. The
[51:53]
address is 31
319
[51:58]
South 17th Street, Suite 212.
I'm speaking in support of the bill to
[52:03]
restore the youth minimum wage to $15
per hour. I come from a single-parent
[52:09]
household where my mom works hard to
support me and my older brother. Having
[52:12]
a job gives me the opportunity to learn
financial responsibility, contribute
[52:16]
when I can, and save for my future.
Lower wages make it harder for you for
[52:20]
young people to achieve these goals.
Many youth use their earnings to help
[52:24]
with transportation, school expenses,
family needs, and saving for college or
[52:28]
other future plans. Fair wages allows us
to gain valuable work experience while
[52:32]
being compensated fairly for our time
and effort. I support raising the youth
[52:36]
minimum wage back to 15 because young
workers deserve fair pay. This bill
[52:40]
ensures that young workers are treated
fairly and are compensated for the time,
[52:43]
effort, and responsibility they put into
their jobs. Thank you for your time and
[52:47]
consideration.
>> Thank you.
[52:51]
Next speaker after Miss Moulton is
Louise Jimenez.
[52:56]
» Hi, Mary Lee Moulton, 2035 South 181st
Circle, Omaha, Nebraska, 68130.
[53:03]
League of Women Voters of Greater Omaha.
In 2022, members of the League of Women
[53:07]
Voters collected signatures in support
of a ballot initiative to establish a
[53:12]
minimum wage statute known as as
Initiative Measure 433. The measure
[53:17]
raised the state's minimum wage from $9
gradually to $15 per household in 2026.
[53:24]
Our support was grounded in the League's
national position on social policy and
[53:28]
meeting basic human needs, which affirms
that social policy should promote
[53:32]
self-sufficiency for individuals and
families. We believe the most effective
[53:37]
social programs are those designed to
prevent or reduce poverty, and this
[53:41]
measure represents meaningful progress
toward that goal. The League of Women
[53:46]
Voters of Greater Omaha supports the
proposed ordinance to maintain the
[53:49]
minimum wage standard approved by
Nebraska voters in 2022. We encourage
[53:55]
the Omaha City Council to pass this
ordinance. Thank you.
[53:58]
» Thank you.
Mr. Luis Jimenez is followed by
[54:04]
Ken Smith.
Mr. Smith, are you here?
[54:08]
» Yes.
>> Please come up.
[54:15]
» My apologies. Uh good afternoon, members
of the City Council. My name is Ken
[54:19]
Smith. My address is 4339 Shirley
Street, and I'm here representing
[54:23]
Nebraska Appleseed in support of this
proposal. Uh Appleseed is a nonprofit
[54:27]
law policy organization that works for
justice and opportunity for all
[54:30]
Nebraskans, and we support this proposed
ordinance because it restores important
[54:34]
wage protections for Omahans that our
legislature recently stripped away. In
[54:38]
2022, Nebraskans voted to update our
wage laws in two significant ways. The
[54:42]
first is to gradually increase our
minimum wage so that by January 1st of
[54:46]
2026, uh the minimum wage for all
workers would be $15 per hour.
[54:51]
And secondly, the voters installed
annual adjustments so that wages would
[54:53]
increase to keep up with the cost of
living. Um and that's measured by
[54:57]
looking at the year-over-year percentage
change to the consumer price index, um
[55:01]
and then adjusting our minimum wage
accordingly. Unfortunately, this past
[55:04]
session, the Nebraska legislature passed
a bill that undermines the core purposes
[55:08]
of this voter-approved initiative and
rolls back important wage protections.
[55:12]
It makes two harmful changes to the
state wage laws. First, it caps those
[55:15]
annual adjustments at 1.75%,
which means that the minimum wage will
[55:20]
once again fail to keep pace with
increases in the cost of living. And it
[55:24]
also creates a subminimum wage for
certain youth workers, which not only
[55:27]
creates an equity in the workplace where
employees doing the same job are paid
[55:30]
differently, but it also ignores the
reality that for many youth workers,
[55:34]
their income is a vital resource for
themselves and their families. So, this
[55:38]
proposal would restore for Omahan's the
important wage protections the
[55:41]
legislature just rescinded. And it makes
it clear that youth workers should be
[55:45]
included with the rest of the workforce
in being guaranteed
[55:48]
a fair wage. And I just want to zoom in
a little bit on the annual adjustments.
[55:52]
The purpose of those annual adjustments
that voters overwhelmingly approved and
[55:57]
that the legislature just capped was to
protect against the value of wages
[56:00]
eroding over time. So, we saw when we
raised our minimum wage in 2014 to $9 an
[56:05]
hour, we know that the purchasing power
of a dollar, you know, receded from from
[56:10]
2014 to 2025. So, voters in 2022
acknowledged that and said, "We want to
[56:14]
adjust our wage floor so that workers
don't once again fall fall behind." We
[56:19]
know that everything from gas to housing
to child care to medicine is continuing
[56:23]
to get more expensive. Um so, I think
the question in front of the city
[56:27]
council um is is simple. It's that as
the cost of living in Omaha rises,
[56:33]
should the value of labor of a worker's
labor in Omaha fall? Uh Omahan's, as you
[56:39]
heard, a vast majority of Omahan's
turned out in 2022 and answered that
[56:42]
question and said no. So, we we would
urge the council to approve this
[56:45]
measure. We thank Councilman Begley for
bringing it. Uh thank you.
[56:49]
» Thank you. Our next speaker is Michael
Duffy followed by Jason Whitmer.
[56:59]
» Well, my name is Michael Duffy. My
address is 1011 South 35th Street. I'm
[57:04]
speaking on behalf of AFSCME Local 251.
I'm in Councilman Begley's district and
[57:08]
I'm just thrilled as can be that it's my
councilman who introduced this
[57:12]
ordinance. So, thank you for that.
Um you know, working people have really
[57:17]
lost trust in their civic institutions.
And who can blame them? We've seen
[57:23]
stagnating wages over the past decades.
And when the voters passed
[57:27]
overwhelmingly a remedy to this,
the legislature, their duly elected
[57:33]
representatives, introduced several
position uh
[57:38]
introduced several uh things to gut it.
Uh in particular, getting rid of the
[57:44]
increases based on the uh
annual cost of living increases and
[57:50]
instead capping it at 1.75%.
Now, I looked this morning uh since last
[57:55]
year, the CPI has increased 4.2%. That's
a significant difference and that's
[58:01]
coming out of all of our pocketbooks
when we go out to pay our bills. Working
[58:06]
people are surrounded by apartments that
they can't afford to live in. They're
[58:10]
surrounded by goods they can't afford to
purchase.
[58:14]
And I just hope that you take this
opportunity today to restore people's
[58:18]
trust in their civic institutions and
let people know that you hear them and
[58:22]
that you care about what they're going
through. Thank you.
[58:25]
» Thank you.
Next speaker is Jason Whitmer followed
[58:28]
by Mary Royers.
[58:34]
» Good afternoon. My name is Jason
Whitmer. I'm here on behalf of the ACLU
[58:37]
of Nebraska, 134 South 13th Street,
Lincoln, Nebraska 68508.
[58:44]
And we are here in support of this
minimum wage ordinance which simply
[58:48]
states that it honors the voters
overwhelming vote for statewide for the
[58:55]
uh minimum wage and as was said, more
than 70% of I believe Douglas County
[59:00]
voters.
That vote reflects that if people are
[59:04]
working, their wages should be
and should have a chance to keep up with
[59:10]
the real cost of living as we all know
is dramatically raising.
[59:14]
Just my cost of gas here was
extraordinary. I think there was a great
[59:18]
example of uh I'm getting a little off
course, but the
[59:22]
this example
of our insurance
[59:25]
most of us have children, dramatically
high for children, minors, and the cost
[59:31]
of living that we're expecting them to
maintain.
[59:35]
Many of us
can't support our children as others,
[59:39]
and so they support themselves in that
way.
[59:41]
However,
the voters made this decision statewide.
[59:45]
The legislature has changed this. This
was already
[59:48]
uh
details given, so I will go on to
[59:52]
With that happening,
uh trust has eroded. Democracy requires
[59:58]
trust. When a voter approves a clear
policy, they should be able to be they
[1:00:02]
should be able to believe that their
decisions will be carried out honestly
[1:00:06]
and not narrowed through exceptions that
weakens their effect. The initiative
[1:00:10]
process exists because Nebraskans
reserve for themselves the power to
[1:00:14]
shape public policy directly. We are the
second house.
[1:00:19]
That power loses meaning if voters come
to believe that the details they can't
[1:00:22]
they approved could later be narrowed or
rewritten after the election is over.
[1:00:28]
And yes, reasonable people can argue and
disagree about minimum wage and how what
[1:00:34]
it should be. However, that debate
occurred, Nebraska weighed in,
[1:00:39]
and voters rendered this decision.
The question before us now is
[1:00:45]
does the democratic democratic out the
Sorry. The question is now is does the
[1:00:51]
democratic process deserve respect?
And yes, this is also about dignity.
[1:00:57]
I mean, our youth,
they
[1:01:01]
they show up on time, they do the same
work, they serve the same customers,
[1:01:04]
they clean the same stores, they herd
the same cattle, they feed the same
[1:01:08]
hogs, so they should not automatically
be valued less. This is a floor.
[1:01:16]
Furthermore,
as was said, the list of youth, what
[1:01:19]
they are doing, paying for school
uh
[1:01:22]
activities, supporting their families.
And what this ordinance is doing
[1:01:28]
is it's respecting
their labor as well as respecting
[1:01:33]
the voters.
We'd like to thank you, Council Member
[1:01:37]
» minutes. I'm sorry. Got to I got to stop
you at your 3 minutes. Absolutely.
[1:01:41]
Thanks for being here today.
Our next speaker is Mary Royers followed
[1:01:46]
by Gab Rima.
[1:01:50]
» [clears throat]
>> Excuse me. Hi, my name is Mary Royers. I
[1:01:53]
have had my address requirement waived
and I live in District 2.
[1:01:56]
I'm speaking to you today not
representing any particular school
[1:01:59]
district or organization, but as an
educator, an aunt of two teenagers, and
[1:02:03]
the guardian of two minors in support of
what Council Member Danny Begley is
[1:02:07]
proposing. To quote him directly, he is
simply putting before us what the voters
[1:02:11]
have already passed years ago. In a red
state, this minimum wage ballot measure
[1:02:15]
has passed overwhelmingly. Um as as
mentioned before, it's not about party
[1:02:20]
lines. It's about keeping our community
affordable and respecting Nebraska
[1:02:24]
voters. Not only would this ordinance be
wildly popular for our future voters and
[1:02:28]
their families, it's simply the right
thing to do. I challenge anyone in this
[1:02:32]
room to say that they've recently saved
money at the gas pump.
[1:02:36]
Anybody spending less on the basics at
the grocery store?
[1:02:41]
Uh what about on our rent or our
homeowner's insurance?
[1:02:44]
Anybody get a really good claim with
their car insurance lately? Or at the
[1:02:48]
doctor's office with that copay?
I don't need to read the statistics to
[1:02:53]
you because everybody in this room is
feeling the shift in our economy and the
[1:02:56]
increased prices that are surrounding
us. Having our next generation foot the
[1:03:00]
bill for adult business owners by
cutting their wages is not a sustainable
[1:03:04]
answer.
The unfortunate truth is that many young
[1:03:07]
Omahan's pick up jobs not for spending
money to get the Baja Blast at Taco
[1:03:11]
Bell, but to help their struggling
families to make ends meet. The reality
[1:03:14]
is that a lot of our young people are
growing up in a world differently than
[1:03:17]
the one that we might have navigated as
teens or young adults. We're talking
[1:03:21]
about having money for an urgent care
visit or to get fresh fruit or
[1:03:23]
vegetables on the table. Money to save
up for college or for trade school. I've
[1:03:27]
been an educator for 14 years. I spent
the bulk of my career teaching in Omaha
[1:03:31]
where I witnessed high school students
struggling to balance school and work
[1:03:35]
because they needed to work anywhere
from 15 to 30 hours a week in order to
[1:03:39]
support their own households. With
increased cost of living and the
[1:03:42]
benefits being cut in our community, I
had to witness students dropping out of
[1:03:46]
high school to pick up more hours and
help their families stay afloat. I
[1:03:50]
remember begging my students to consider
an alternative to dropping out, but
[1:03:53]
ultimately they did not have any other
choice. Working their minimum wage jobs,
[1:03:57]
they had no other option but to seek
more hours and give up on their dream of
[1:04:00]
graduating high school. I understand
that these conditions may sound
[1:04:04]
hyperbolic, but I promise you from
personal experience they are
[1:04:07]
depressingly quotidian in our city.
Whether we're talking about students
[1:04:12]
taking on adult fiscal responsibility as
children or teenagers wanting to spend
[1:04:16]
money just to be teens, I cannot imagine
lowering the minimum wage in a world
[1:04:20]
where Omahan's are increasingly feeling
the crushing weight of economic
[1:04:23]
pressure. I appreciate Council member
uh Danny Begley for respecting Nebraska
[1:04:28]
voters and for his interest in ensuring
that Omaha communities are affordable
[1:04:32]
family friendly places to live, and I
urge you to consider joining your
[1:04:36]
colleague in passing this overwhelmingly
popular ordinance. Thank you for your
[1:04:39]
time.
>> Thank you. Next speaker is Gab Rima
[1:04:43]
followed by Nate Asch Dyck.
[1:04:50]
Ms. Rima, are you here?
[1:05:00]
» Good afternoon. My name is Gab Rima, and
I have had my address requirement waived
[1:05:04]
for this meeting. I'm here today as a
proponent of this ordinance to restore
[1:05:08]
full minimum wage rights to teen
workers, and I want to thank the council
[1:05:12]
for considering this.
As someone who follows state and local
[1:05:15]
politics, I often hear elected officials
talking about young people as sort of an
[1:05:21]
abstract concept, like you might talk
about the exotic animals at the zoo.
[1:05:26]
Um like young people seem agitated with
their current habitat. Um I often hear
[1:05:33]
young people are leaving Nebraska.
Nebraska's workforce is dwindling cuz
[1:05:37]
young people aren't getting jobs here.
Young people are going out of state for
[1:05:41]
college.
I hear about brain drain and about
[1:05:44]
strange plots to get more young people
to live here.
[1:05:48]
But all we keep doing is pushing young
people further and further away,
[1:05:52]
continuing to make the state more and
more hostile.
[1:05:56]
If I were a teenager right now, and I
was a teenager in Omaha,
[1:06:00]
I would absolutely be upset with getting
my first job and being told that my
[1:06:05]
labor wasn't even worth the minimum
wage. Being told that once I got the
[1:06:09]
right age to vote, that wouldn't even
matter.
[1:06:12]
I would also be fantasizing about
leaving as soon as possible.
[1:06:16]
I keep hearing arguments that teenagers
don't need the money, or that teens
[1:06:20]
shouldn't be making $15 an hour to spend
on frivolous things. But the young
[1:06:25]
people that I know are not spending
their money on frivolous things. They
[1:06:29]
are incredibly aware of the rising cost
of higher education.
[1:06:33]
They are aware that their parents are
taking on second or third jobs to make
[1:06:37]
it through.
That maybe right now isn't a good time
[1:06:40]
to ask mom or dad for money to go on a
field trip or for a new pair of shoes.
[1:06:46]
And ultimately, I don't think young
people should have to justify
[1:06:49]
themselves. If you think a teenager is
good enough to work at your business and
[1:06:53]
good enough to get the job done, then
they're good enough to make the same
[1:06:57]
wage as anyone.
This ordinance is about fairness. It's
[1:07:00]
about labor rights, and it's about
democracy.
[1:07:04]
I'm grateful to see Omaha standing up
for the rights of young people, and I
[1:07:07]
hope you'll all vote yes on this
ordinance. Thank you.
[1:07:10]
» Thank you.
Mr. Nate Astyk followed by Scott
[1:07:14]
Dombeck.
[1:07:20]
» Hello City Council. My name is Nate
Astyk. I live at 9380 Western Avenue
[1:07:25]
68114
and I'm here today as a proponent of
[1:07:30]
this ordinance.
Something that I really think is
[1:07:36]
important is that we're working to
restore the trust that the public has in
[1:07:41]
our institutions and even the capability
of
[1:07:46]
us as a people to self-govern.
If time and time again we see
[1:07:51]
resolutions and initiatives being passed
by the people and then getting
[1:07:56]
overturned, these finer details getting
ignored that really are
[1:08:01]
a core solution to a lot of the problems
we're seeing. Take for example the
[1:08:05]
consumer price index matching for
minimum wage increases.
[1:08:10]
If that goes into law, we see an actual
systematic fix to the way that wages are
[1:08:15]
working where as prices rise, they're
going to match. Putting it in kind of
[1:08:19]
dollars and cents terms here,
if we were to take this uh
[1:08:24]
you know, May to May last year to May
this year and look at that increase
[1:08:28]
under the 1.75% increase, that's only 26
cent an hour wage gain for minimum wage
[1:08:33]
workers as opposed to if we were
matching inflation, it'll be a 75 per 75
[1:08:39]
cent wage gain. That is almost a 50 cent
difference which that, you know, working
[1:08:44]
full-time, that is $20 a week. That adds
up year after year and it allows us to
[1:08:50]
move forward, you know, being in that
position to talk about more
[1:08:55]
actually innovative policy options where
how do we then on top of having a
[1:09:00]
established
wage standard that is high enough that's
[1:09:04]
actually transformational that people
can live on, move to building more
[1:09:08]
housing, making that more accessible,
creating these amenities. And a big part
[1:09:12]
of that is
uh actually making sure people can
[1:09:17]
afford to get by.
And so that is just something that I
[1:09:21]
thought would be good to uh bring up in
all this that I haven't really seen
[1:09:25]
discussed in addition to the very
eloquently put um reasons that youth
[1:09:31]
workers who are performing the same
labor should of course be given the same
[1:09:36]
sort of wage. We need to keep young
people here in Omaha and Nebraska and
[1:09:41]
just making sure that people are able to
build those savings where we can have
[1:09:44]
low costs and high wages and all these
other things where instead of falling
[1:09:49]
behind a lot of the major metropolitan
areas both in the Midwest and regionally
[1:09:53]
for job opportunities, for wages, we're
actually attracting that to deepen the
[1:09:57]
community here to
uh really just have a great sort of
[1:10:03]
sense of feeling valued and living those
values. So, thank you for introducing
[1:10:08]
this and considering it and I hope it
goes well. Thank you.
[1:10:12]
» Thank you.
Mr. Scott Dombeck followed by Jayden
[1:10:16]
Perkins.
[1:10:20]
» [clears throat]
>> Good afternoon. Scott Dombeck, 4309
[1:10:25]
South 61st Street, Omaha.
Um I'm speaking today on behalf of
[1:10:29]
AFSCME Local 251 which which represents
uh City of Omaha civilian employees. Uh
[1:10:37]
we support this ordinance. Uh the
ordinance establishes a city a minimum
[1:10:42]
wage as well as protects the cost of
living increases that were uh codified
[1:10:49]
in the um well, [snorts]
uh
[1:10:53]
protects and extends the cost of living
increases that were part of the uh
[1:10:57]
ballot initiative in 2022.
Um while local 251
[1:11:03]
um
only has several job classifications
[1:11:07]
that start at the current minimum wage,
um there are also large numbers of other
[1:11:13]
city employees in other departments uh
working as part-time parks department
[1:11:18]
employees, uh part-time employees in
other departments
[1:11:22]
uh that are uh currently starting uh at
minimum wage.
[1:11:26]
Um we believe in the principle
of equal pay
[1:11:31]
for equal work.
And that's what this ordinance
[1:11:36]
guarantees.
It guarantees that no matter what your
[1:11:40]
age is in the city of Omaha, you will be
paid equally
[1:11:44]
whether you work for the city of Omaha
or whether you work for a private
[1:11:48]
employer.
The sons and daughters of working
[1:11:53]
families in the city of Omaha, the sons
and daughters of city of Omaha
[1:11:58]
employees, the sons and daughters of
local 251 members often contribute to
[1:12:04]
their household budget
both directly and indirectly. We've
[1:12:09]
heard testimony
from a number of young people up here
[1:12:12]
today about the real struggles that they
face
[1:12:16]
in relationship to their wage
and the cost of living
[1:12:21]
uh in America today.
Uh we believe that this ordinance helps
[1:12:27]
to address those problems. And don't be
mistaken in thinking that, you know, the
[1:12:32]
minimum wage is actually a living wage
because it's not. Uh we heard testimony
[1:12:37]
earlier from um
Appleseed, uh Nebraska Appleseed. Uh
[1:12:41]
they've uh released studies that show
the minimum wage should be actually be
[1:12:46]
closer the a living wage would be
actually closer to $22 an hour.
[1:12:53]
So, um
as I stated, um many many young people
[1:12:58]
contribute uh to the household budget.
Uh in 2022, uh the uh uh voters in the
[1:13:04]
state of Nebraska
uh passed a ballot initiative
[1:13:08]
433.
Uh that ballot initiative was undone
[1:13:14]
by certain members of the state
legislature and the governor.
[1:13:18]
The ballot initiative was unambiguous.
There was no question in there as to who
[1:13:23]
this would apply to.
>> Beckmann, I'm going to have to ask you
[1:13:25]
to Okay. cease now. Your 3 minutes is
up. Thanks for being here today.
[1:13:29]
Next speaker is Jayden Perkins followed
by Alexander Lu.
[1:13:35]
» All right. Uh good afternoon, council
members. My name is Jayden Perkins. I'm
[1:13:41]
at 210 South 16th Street. I'm an Omaha
resident, grassroots organizer, and
[1:13:46]
founder of Boots on the Ground
Strategies. I have spent years
[1:13:50]
organizing in coalition alongside
working-class folks and community
[1:13:54]
members across the city. And that's why
I'm here today in support of this
[1:13:58]
ordinance. Through that work, I have
helped mobilize campaigns to pass
[1:14:02]
minimum wage increases and to protect
and expand paid sick leave because no
[1:14:07]
one should have to choose between their
paycheck and their health
[1:14:11]
and or fall uh behind the cost of living
uh while uh
[1:14:16]
costs keep rising. Uh when we the people
voted to raise the minimum wage in 2022,
[1:14:21]
we also voted for annual cost of living
adjustments to ensure wages didn't fall
[1:14:26]
behind inflation. But this year, the
Nebraska legislature rolled back and
[1:14:31]
capped those inflation-indexed increases
at just 1.75%.
[1:14:36]
Additionally, this created a new
provision allowing 14- and 15-year-olds
[1:14:40]
to be paid below the voter-approved
minimum wage. That decision didn't stop
[1:14:44]
inflation. It only stopped workers'
wages from keeping up with it. And now,
[1:14:50]
with additional changes in state law set
to take effect, workers are at risk at
[1:14:54]
further of falling even further behind.
If this ordinance does not pass, those
[1:15:00]
state-level rollbacks will lock in a
system where wages cannot keep pace with
[1:15:04]
rising cost. That means every year the
real value of a paycheck will continue
[1:15:09]
to shrink, especially for young workers,
parents, seniors, and for the hundreds
[1:15:13]
of thousands of people who keep Omaha
running.
[1:15:16]
At the same time, our social safety nets
are being rolled back. From cuts and
[1:15:21]
restrictions to Medicaid here in
Nebraska to federal efforts under Trump
[1:15:25]
that weaken and means-tested programs
employees or programs families rely on
[1:15:30]
when times get tough. While support
systems for working families are being
[1:15:34]
stripped away, corporations and
out-of-state developers continue to
[1:15:38]
receive generous public subsidies and
tax incentives, corporate welfare our
[1:15:44]
communities are told will trickle down
someday.
[1:15:47]
Workers don't get that luxury. We don't
get public subsidies to cover rising
[1:15:51]
rent or groceries. We don't get
incentives to keep our families afloat.
[1:15:56]
All we get is the paycheck we earn.
I know a lot of people who are doing
[1:16:00]
everything right and still falling
behind because their wages stay flat
[1:16:04]
while everything else keeps climbing.
Restoring the will of the voters at the
[1:16:08]
city level is one of the most
responsible steps you, as local
[1:16:12]
representatives, can take. It gives
employees clarity. It gives workers
[1:16:17]
stability. And it honors the spirit of
what we the people voted for, a living
[1:16:22]
wage for all that doesn't erode over
time. I would urge you to stand with
[1:16:26]
Omaha's working class families by voting
yes in this ordinance. Thank you.
[1:16:32]
» Thank you.
Alexander Lu, followed by Jen Day.
[1:16:44]
» Here.
[1:16:47]
There we go.
Hello Gwinnett City Council.
[1:16:51]
Uh my name is Alexander Liu, um a l a x
a e Sorry, a l e x a n d e r l i u and
[1:16:59]
then this is Kego.
Um my address is 435 Sorry, 4354 North
[1:17:06]
88th Plaza. Um I do hold uh elected
offices in the state and uh county
[1:17:12]
parties for the Nebraska Democratic
Party and Douglas County Party, but I'm
[1:17:15]
not speaking on behalf of those. I'm
actually speaking on as a demographic of
[1:17:19]
the party or of the people that the
councils generally concerned are leaving
[1:17:24]
Omaha and the state overall, which is
just younger people, right? So, if the
[1:17:29]
goal is to make living in Omaha more
attractive and increase then increasing
[1:17:32]
the minimum wage is actually very
necessary. Um the I know I understand
[1:17:36]
that this is kind of ironic since I'm
speaking in
[1:17:39]
in proposed uh sorry, in as a proponent
of this as somebody on disability.
[1:17:45]
Uh so, this would actually uh be
applying something called the efficiency
[1:17:49]
wage theory. Um so, this would increase
wages and it would uh be a net benefit
[1:17:53]
to the city of Omaha since it would be
make moving here more attractive and
[1:17:58]
benefit local businesses with the
increase in spending since we are giving
[1:18:02]
more increase in the wages to workers.
So, this would still be going to local
[1:18:06]
businesses, which is going to benefit
Omaha as a whole.
[1:18:10]
Um and then over time of the people that
the councils generally concerned are
[1:18:12]
leaving Omaha and the state overall,
which is just younger people, right? So,
[1:18:14]
if the goal is to make living in Omaha
more attractive and increase then
[1:18:15]
increasing the minimum wage is actually
very necessary. Um the I know I
[1:18:17]
understand that this is kind of ironic
since And it is recommended by
[1:18:21]
organizations such as the Roosevelt
Institute that the minimum wage be a
[1:18:24]
raised to a living wage of at least $25
by 2038, though of course with
[1:18:30]
gas prices and everything else and
inflation, it's probably going to be
[1:18:33]
higher than that. Uh
you know,
[1:18:36]
fairly soon. I'm sure if they're going
to raise that a bit more.
[1:18:39]
Um but I will also want to point out
that uh since I am on disability um and
[1:18:43]
the streetcar construction has taken
away even more spots around City Hall
[1:18:46]
that um I actually had to pay for
parking just to come up here and that
[1:18:49]
the media spots around here
>> stay on topic.
[1:18:51]
» Although this is related since uh again
with since we're talking about minimum
[1:18:54]
wage increases that you know, this is a
pay issue. So, I'm just pointing out
[1:18:59]
that
these are kind of it a problem. Um so,
[1:19:04]
these are just
pay-related issues that
[1:19:07]
city councilors should probably look
into.
[1:19:09]
Um but again, just that
as
[1:19:14]
somebody who does have to look into
these, you know,
[1:19:17]
pay problems that the city council
should be more aware of people who are
[1:19:23]
on limited means that it is a
big impact that when you do have an
[1:19:29]
increase even if it is
smaller
[1:19:33]
that it does make a big impact and then
it goes from the bottom up. It's going
[1:19:36]
to be uh you know, it is going to affect
the city as a whole and it will be more
[1:19:39]
attractive for businesses um and people
wanting to move into the city and then
[1:19:44]
impact the city as a whole. So, thank
you.
[1:19:47]
» Thank you.
Next speaker is Jen Day followed by
[1:19:50]
Aaron Feisinger.
[1:20:01]
» Good afternoon, City Council President
and members of the Omaha City Council.
[1:20:05]
My name is Jen Day and I am the Policy
Director for the Women's Fund of Omaha
[1:20:09]
located at 4601 Catalyst Court, 68106.
And I'm here today to share our strong
[1:20:15]
support for Councilman Begley's proposal
to ensure all Omaha workers, including
[1:20:19]
those between the ages of 14 to 19, are
paid at least the state minimum wage as
[1:20:23]
was expressly requested by the Nebraska
voters in 2022.
[1:20:28]
Initiative 433, which set the state
minimum wage at $15 by 2026 with yearly
[1:20:33]
increases thereafter connected to the
consumer price index was approved by
[1:20:38]
nearly 60% of a majority excuse me a
nearly 60% majority of Nebraska voters
[1:20:44]
in November 2022. More specifically as
it relates to the Omaha City Council the
[1:20:49]
measure was approved by nearly 72% of
Omaha voters. Your voters your
[1:20:53]
constituents approved of a $15 minimum
wage with no exceptions for age by
[1:20:58]
nearly a three to one margin over those
who did not.
[1:21:02]
Unfortunately the Nebraska legislature
used the very little time they had this
[1:21:05]
past session to pass LB 258 which
created a sub minimum wage for workers
[1:21:10]
ages 14 and 15 and a training wage for
workers ages 16 to 19. Additionally the
[1:21:15]
yearly increases would be capped at
1.75% as opposed to being tied to CPI.
[1:21:20]
These provisions display an alarming
detachment from the financial reality
[1:21:24]
faced by many Nebraskans today. The
rising cost of food housing and basic
[1:21:28]
necessities has forced families to count
every penny with some working two or
[1:21:32]
three jobs just to pay rent and buy
groceries. Further for many families
[1:21:37]
having children who work is not
optional. It is a necessity to keep up
[1:21:40]
with the cost of living.
More specifically capping the annual
[1:21:44]
increases and in minimum wage at 1.75%
will essentially function as giving
[1:21:49]
workers a pay cut. Inflation in typical
economic circumstances is roughly 3%
[1:21:55]
annually annually with the consumer with
the current consumer price index at
[1:21:59]
4.2%.
A raise of 1.75%
[1:22:03]
would be roughly two to three percent
below the raise in the cost of living
[1:22:07]
meaning a paycheck that currently has
you counting pennies will not be enough
[1:22:11]
to cover basic necessities in coming
years.
[1:22:14]
In our recent study unequal plains
examining the economic gender gap in
[1:22:17]
Nebraska the Women's Fund of Omaha found
that women in Nebraska are 13% more
[1:22:22]
likely than men to live at or below the
poverty level.
[1:22:25]
This combined with the motherhood
penalty we observed illuminating a
[1:22:29]
decrease in wages the more children a
woman has while men's wages see an
[1:22:32]
increase with the number of children
they have, plus the data showing that
[1:22:36]
women pay 19% percent Excuse me, 19%
more on average in housing costs than
[1:22:41]
men,
you can see how arbitrarily paying those
[1:22:44]
under the age of 20 a lower wage for
equal work would unfairly penalize
[1:22:48]
single mother homes with children who
work. As stated previously, many of
[1:22:52]
these homes need children to work to
help pay their bills. Paying young
[1:22:56]
people less for the same work is not
only discriminatory, but it creates
[1:23:00]
additional financial strain in homes
that may already be struggling. Lastly,
[1:23:04]
some of these families are the result of
a mother
[1:23:06]
» Mr. Speaker, I'm going to have to
cut you off. I hate doing that to
[1:23:09]
anybody, but just thank you for being
here.
[1:23:12]
» Thank you.
>> And speakers, I'm always consistent on
[1:23:14]
the 3-minute mark, so thanks for being
here. Our next speaker is Erin
[1:23:18]
Feisinger,
followed by Tracy Kirby.
[1:23:26]
» Great pronunciation of my last name,
Councilmember Begley. Appreciate it.
[1:23:30]
Council members, my name is Erin
Feisinger, 2719 North 49th Avenue. I
[1:23:34]
didn't get a chance to send in a letter,
so I appreciate the opportunity to put
[1:23:37]
my support on the record today.
Uh here in support of agenda item 29.
[1:23:42]
Thanks to Councilmember Begley for the
pronunciation once again and for taking
[1:23:45]
this up on behalf of the 70% of Omahans
who voted to increase the minimum wage.
[1:23:51]
I collected signatures for this back in
2022 all over the state, and then in a
[1:23:56]
former life spent years talking to state
senators about why they should not go
[1:24:00]
against the will of the voters and
restrict that annual increase which
[1:24:04]
voters overwhelmingly supported. And
over those conversations, I heard the
[1:24:08]
gamut of arguments which basically
boiled down to it is our job to
[1:24:12]
interpret what the voters wanted and at
the same time voters don't know what
[1:24:16]
they're voting for.
I would argue that all of the confusing
[1:24:20]
language and ballot initiatives over the
years. There is nothing more clear or
[1:24:25]
understandable to people than the fact
that their paychecks are no longer
[1:24:29]
covering their costs.
All of us understand that. I've talked
[1:24:33]
to a lot of my neighbors about this and
the consistent theme is that it is
[1:24:36]
harder and harder to get ahead despite
feeling like we are working harder than
[1:24:40]
ever. The problem is wages and like
multiple speakers have pointed out, 70%
[1:24:46]
of Omaha voters including more voters in
each of your districts than voted for
[1:24:51]
each of you in your respective city
council races understood that when they
[1:24:55]
voted for the minimum wage increase.
Voters are not stupid and I think all of
[1:24:59]
you know that. I would also just draw
attention to Omaha's poverty elimination
[1:25:04]
plan signed by former Mayor Stothert
which specifies amongst other solutions
[1:25:09]
uplifting specifically mentions
uplifting minimum wage increases as a
[1:25:13]
solution to poverty. So we've already
got this on the books that this is a
[1:25:17]
solution we should try.
I saw the Omaha Chamber sent in a letter
[1:25:21]
of opposition expressing their support
for increased wages but their concern
[1:25:25]
over how this ordinance would be
implemented and the confusion it could
[1:25:28]
cause for regional businesses and I
understand that might be a concern for
[1:25:31]
this council as well.
There's a lot of smart people at the
[1:25:34]
chamber who have put out a lot of very
smart studies about continued brain
[1:25:39]
drain in Omaha and about the problems
for businesses caused by our collective
[1:25:44]
inability to afford the things that we
need to live, work and play in this
[1:25:49]
city. I have full faith that the
business community here in Omaha will be
[1:25:53]
able to figure this out because they
have consistently asked us to trust
[1:25:57]
their intelligence and foresight when it
comes to taking care of Omaha working
[1:26:01]
families and addressing their needs. The
fact remains though that 70% of Omahan's
[1:26:06]
did not vote for the chamber or the
needs of the business community.
[1:26:10]
They voted for their own futures, their
own families and their continued ability
[1:26:14]
to take care of themselves and their
families with wages that would match
[1:26:18]
their daily needs. I say we trust the
people of Omaha, trust that they know
[1:26:21]
their own lives and needs, and I would
ask you to do the same by supporting
[1:26:24]
this ordinance. Thanks for your time
today, everyone.
[1:26:27]
» Thank you. Next speaker is Tracy Kirby,
followed by Louise Jimenez.
[1:26:35]
Tracy Kirby?
Tracy Kirby?
[1:26:40]
We'll move on to the next speaker,
Louise Jimenez. Is there any other
[1:26:43]
proponents that want to speak that
haven't spoken yet today? Raise your
[1:26:46]
hand.
Thank you.
[1:26:51]
» Louise Jimenez, 2709 Dewey Avenue.
Mr. President, good thing this is not
[1:26:57]
your first ordinance, or the rest of the
council might have knocked it down.
[1:27:02]
I just want to make an observation.
Having the Human Rights and Relations to
[1:27:08]
lead a department to lead this effort is
brilliant. Placing notices and informing
[1:27:13]
employees of this ordinance mirrors how
the federal government does it.
[1:27:18]
And your city
attorney might get some flak, but I'm
[1:27:21]
not so cynical thinking that this
council needs to question
[1:27:25]
if Mr. Crusey has drafted a lawful
ordinance.
[1:27:29]
I live in
Omaha,
[1:27:32]
and uh
I've spent the last several years
[1:27:36]
working in civic engagement, community
outreach, and local journalism. Through
[1:27:39]
canvassing, neighborhood meetings,
community events, and conversations with
[1:27:43]
residents across South Omaha, North
Omaha, and other parts of the city, I
[1:27:47]
have had the opportunity to hear
directly from working families about the
[1:27:50]
challenges they face every day.
What I have hear most often is people
[1:27:55]
asking for stability. They talk about
rising rent, increasing grocery costs,
[1:28:00]
children care expenses, transportation
costs, and health care bills that
[1:28:04]
continue to climb faster than their
paychecks.
[1:28:06]
Many residents are working full-time,
some working multiple jobs, yet still
[1:28:10]
find themselves struggling to keep up
with the cost of living in an Omaha.
[1:28:14]
This ordinance asks an important
question. Should Omaha have have the
[1:28:18]
ability to respond to Omaha's economic
realities? To be sure, people are not
[1:28:23]
asking for special treatment. They're
asking for a fair opportunity to support
[1:28:27]
themselves and their families. As a home
rule charter city, Omaha has the
[1:28:32]
authority to consider solutions tailored
to local conditions and have uh
[1:28:38]
So, you can give this thoughtful
consideration.
[1:28:42]
Uh I worked as a young person. I paid
for my first cell phone, uh new clothes,
[1:28:48]
and eventually got my uh
vehicle. So, I I understand what young
[1:28:54]
people are saying.
Uh
[1:28:56]
today many families feel the cost of
living continues uh to rise while the
[1:29:01]
benefits of economic growth are
increasingly concentrated elsewhere.
[1:29:05]
Recent analysts found that 41 energy
billionaires increased their wealth by
[1:29:10]
23.5 billion during the conflict with
Iran, even as higher energy costs ripple
[1:29:15]
through the economy. Research on
long-term inequality suggests that tens
[1:29:20]
of trillions of dollars in income that
once would have flowed to working and
[1:29:24]
middle-class Americans have instead
accrued to those at the very top of the
[1:29:28]
economic ladder. That's happened last
four decades. So, at its core, this
[1:29:33]
proposal is about how Omaha chooses to
balance economic growth, local control,
[1:29:37]
and the economic well-being of
>> its residents. Thank you for your time.
[1:29:42]
» Thank you. Are there any other
proponents here on item number 28 that
[1:29:47]
wish to speak?
Seeing none, are there any opponents?
[1:29:53]
Oops.
[1:29:55]
Sorry, we had a couple more speakers
here before [clears throat] we go to
[1:29:59]
opponent.
>> see the audience on the
[1:30:01]
» Larry, I have the floor if I I haven't
called you up yet.
[1:30:04]
» not just asked for an opponent.
>> Give me a moment. The
[1:30:07]
» What are these
These are our opponents.
[1:30:09]
» Okay.
>> 1 2
[1:30:11]
3
>> Okay.
[1:30:19]
Okay, so who should I call the others?
Okay, the next speaker is Andrew
[1:30:23]
Sullivan.
[1:30:31]
» Thank you, Council President, Council
members. My name is Andrew Sullivan,
[1:30:35]
17748 Western Avenue, and I'm opposed to
this ordinance because I think
[1:30:40]
overall you'll find in this with dealing
with fiat currencies and digital economy
[1:30:46]
on here,
we would be better off getting rid of
[1:30:50]
minimum wage.
But, that's not for discussion.
[1:30:54]
This ordinance is about what state
legislature did and why.
[1:30:58]
The reason we have a difference
in income for the minimum wage for you
[1:31:05]
young people is cuz they don't have
enough experience, and they need to gain
[1:31:08]
it.
Now, if you think I'm heartless,
[1:31:12]
I when I started working, minimum wage
was $3.80.
[1:31:19]
And there was plenty of jobs on.
Theaters would hire because
[1:31:24]
grocery stores, you would just go in
there, be a stock boy, work 10 10 hours
[1:31:29]
a week, and that's it. You know, there
was plenty of them.
[1:31:32]
But, what we started to do
in the 6th late '60s is the federal
[1:31:37]
government greatly expanded the ability
of minimum wage laws.
[1:31:43]
And then next decade, we were suffering
double-digit inflation.
[1:31:48]
Because
the price of the currency didn't match
[1:31:52]
the value of what was being done.
Today,
[1:31:58]
the state legislature is stuck with a
problem.
[1:32:02]
How do you get people to hire
youth?
[1:32:06]
When Nebraska raised its minimum wage to
$9,
[1:32:11]
suddenly a bunch of grocery stores
closed.
[1:32:15]
Not immediately,
not right away,
[1:32:18]
they waited till they figured out, well,
what how do I come deal with these extra
[1:32:22]
costs? And then they started
consolidating.
[1:32:26]
At the same time,
since people kept complaining,
[1:32:31]
they brought in self-checkout stands.
[1:32:36]
And
because
[1:32:38]
14-year-old, 15-year-old, 16-year-old,
18-year-old can't check out alcohol,
[1:32:44]
they got rid of the teenagers.
[1:32:47]
The same thing happened in the movie
theaters. Anyone 12 and up could work in
[1:32:51]
a movie theater. It wasn't that
difficult. Tear your ticket, give it to
[1:32:54]
them, send make certain they get seated,
clean up the aisle afterwards, and just
[1:32:58]
sit there and talk to your friends.
Those jobs are gone.
[1:33:02]
Go look at this this theater over here.
I mean, it might be busy on Friday and
[1:33:06]
Saturday night, but for the most part,
oh, they you got before you buy a
[1:33:10]
ticket, you got to go right up to the
food stand now
[1:33:13]
and ask, "Do you want fries with that?"
[1:33:18]
That's what's happened.
We've deprived a generation of ability
[1:33:22]
to work,
deprived of working.
[1:33:26]
And that's why I think you should get
out of this
[1:33:28]
um minimum wage ordinance. It's not
going to do what you think it's going to
[1:33:32]
do. It will just discriminate against
the youth that you wanted to get hired
[1:33:35]
in the first place.
>> you for being here. Next speaker
[1:33:39]
is Donny R. Johnson.
[1:33:43]
Followed by Chrissy
Armend
[1:33:47]
Diaz. Armendariz, Armend
>> Armendariz.
[1:33:49]
» Armendariz, thank you.
I was going to get there.
[1:33:54]
» Uh good afternoon. I'm on City Council,
Donny R. Johnson and Johnson and Johnson
[1:33:57]
Question Foundation.
Uh 4928 North 52nd Street
[1:34:02]
and North Omaha Concerned Citizens
Foundation.
[1:34:04]
You know, I I I think
everyone like for the young folks to
[1:34:08]
have money. And if you go back to the
'60s and the '70s,
[1:34:12]
uh
[1:34:15]
we had jobs through the city.
And
[1:34:19]
I don't know if these young folks have
seen all the Burger Kings and uh Wendys
[1:34:23]
and McDonald's shutting down.
So, it They're looking at it wages not
[1:34:27]
going to fix the problem.
The problem's on the other side.
[1:34:31]
And you look to the '70s, people was
making like the gentleman
[1:34:34]
gentleman was saying, "$3 an hour, you
could pay for a house making $3 an
[1:34:38]
hour." But you make $15 an hour, you
can't pay for anything.
[1:34:41]
So, the problem's not there. It's more
like the Boston Tea Party. People were
[1:34:45]
just got upset.
So, where's the problem really at? The
[1:34:49]
price index is on the other side, not
the wages. You can get all the wages in
[1:34:52]
the world, but then we don't have Sears
and Roebucks anymore. We don't have
[1:34:55]
Kmart. We saw all these businesses
closing. And the number one problem is
[1:34:59]
wages.
And I told the Navy guys, "If you send
[1:35:03]
me to Europe instead of Washington D.C.
with Mr. Harding, I'll find out where
[1:35:07]
Jimmy Hoffa is at." They say he's up in
New York.
[1:35:09]
» we need to we need to stay on topic.
Thank you.
[1:35:12]
Next speaker, I
apologize, it's Senator Christy
[1:35:15]
Armendariz.
[1:35:27]
» Good afternoon, Council President and
City Council. Uh thank you for having
[1:35:30]
me. I'm Christy Armendariz. My address
is 16212 West Maple Road.
[1:35:35]
I am a current state senator. I am the
vice chair of appropriations for the
[1:35:39]
state of Maras- of Nebraska.
And I thought it fair to come and put my
[1:35:45]
testimony on the record of why I voted
the way I did on uh LB 258.
[1:35:53]
We did we've talked a lot about the
minimum wage.
[1:35:58]
But if a minimum wage worker receives a
mandated increase in his or her wage
[1:36:03]
without additional contribution, the
ripple effect will keep that individual
[1:36:08]
at the exact same place within their
buying power
[1:36:11]
that they were before.
When a when the minimum wage goes up, a
[1:36:16]
business, in order to stay flat in their
company's profit margin,
[1:36:20]
can reduce its workforce in the hopes of
still maintaining the same output or
[1:36:25]
which we often see in entry-level work,
the business owner can replace those
[1:36:30]
positions with technology.
We need to be cognizant of grocery
[1:36:34]
stores and restaurants where the profit
margins are are extremely tight and
[1:36:38]
volatile.
Those industries in particular would
[1:36:42]
have a very difficult time staying open
and using workers as opposed to
[1:36:46]
technology.
We have seen closures and technology
[1:36:50]
replace workers for several years now.
If companies need to maintain its level
[1:36:56]
of employees and it forces the to in a
are forced to pay higher wages at the
[1:37:01]
entry-level,
more than likely they will need to
[1:37:04]
increase wages within the whole
organization. So it won't be just
[1:37:08]
minimum wage. All the other workers will
be expected to be bumped up to keep that
[1:37:13]
delta the same they always were. So we
raise minimum wage as governments,
[1:37:18]
all wages go up.
That's fine and ideal as long as we're
[1:37:23]
in a closed system. But if you have
businesses that can outsource, and we've
[1:37:27]
seen it going on for decades now, to
other countries, especially at customer
[1:37:33]
service type jobs, they do.
So we will lose those jobs, which are
[1:37:37]
entry-level jobs, and we need to be
cognizant of that. I just want to make
[1:37:42]
one last point that in that ordinance in
in the state legislature's bill
[1:37:49]
and the
on the record
[1:37:53]
city, county, state, schools are all
exempt from the mandated minimum wage.
[1:37:59]
So, if you work for any of those
entities or organizations, none of them
[1:38:03]
are are applicable in the mandated
minimum wage or any of the CPI
[1:38:08]
escalators
that are involved in that bill.
[1:38:12]
Thank you.
>> Thank you, Senator. Are there any other
[1:38:15]
opponents here?
[1:38:33]
» Larry Store, 5015 Lafayette Avenue,
Omaha, 68132.
[1:38:39]
I am opposed to this for very many
reasons, so please call me back up later
[1:38:43]
for clarification, not expansion.
But, what we have done here this this
[1:38:49]
afternoon is a severe breakage of the
rule.
[1:38:52]
This is an agenda item, yes.
But, always in the past should have
[1:38:57]
stayed on the topic of that agenda.
What is on that piece of paper in front
[1:39:02]
» Larry, this is about the minimum wage,
not about other issues. You can talk
[1:39:05]
about the minimum wage ordinance or
you're going to be called out of order.
[1:39:08]
» Let me have my freedom to speak.
>> Your freedom is on item 29 for the
[1:39:13]
minimum wage.
>> 29.
[1:39:16]
Will you please be quiet for a change?
>> Have him removed. Larry, you can't
[1:39:20]
respect the body.
>> meeting.
[1:39:21]
» You are removed. Please cut the mic.
You're removed, Larry. Thank you.
[1:39:26]
Are there You're removed. You are
removed. Are there any other opponents
[1:39:31]
I want to thank everybody that's here
today for being respectful of everyone
[1:39:37]
that is here in attendance
and also that is listening on the Zoom.
[1:39:42]
We try to run a civil meeting, 3 minutes
for everybody to speak. So, thank you
[1:39:48]
everybody that's done that here today.
Are there any other opponents here on
[1:39:53]
item number 29?
Seeing none,
[1:39:58]
the public hearing is closed. And I we
have some lights on,
[1:40:02]
but I I like to make a couple remarks
since I brought this ordinance before
[1:40:06]
us, and I'll gladly get to my
colleagues.
[1:40:09]
I want to thank a lot of the young
people that took the time to come out
[1:40:12]
here today
and to share your stories.
[1:40:16]
Because I I had a lot of things that I
wanted to cover in my remarks, but it's
[1:40:21]
incredible. It is a grandfather of a
1-year-old, and my kids are in their 20s
[1:40:27]
and 30-ish, means I'm getting a little
old.
[1:40:29]
I It always
it it gives me great hope in our youth
[1:40:34]
to use their voices, and that's what you
did here today.
[1:40:38]
So, instead of covering a lot of things
that you all did,
[1:40:42]
I want to just tell a brief story about
myself as a 14-year-old kid
[1:40:47]
in 1983. I worked in the Creighton
University dish room,
[1:40:52]
and my older brothers were 15 and 16,
and they worked in that dish room as
[1:40:57]
well,
along with other kids
[1:41:00]
from Cathedral where I grew up, and also
North Omaha that was nearby.
[1:41:04]
And if you can place a dish room, you
got two people scraping the plates,
[1:41:09]
got the trays, the cups, the silverware.
You got them scraping that, and then
[1:41:14]
behind that person, you had somebody
loading the dishwasher.
[1:41:18]
And on the other other end of the
conveyor belt was the unloader of the
[1:41:22]
dishwasher.
And then the other guy or gal was doing
[1:41:26]
the silverware, so you got five people
right there.
[1:41:30]
And then you got a sixth person that's
hustling when the dishes are done, and
[1:41:35]
you got to run back to the two food
lines to take plates, trays, silverware,
[1:41:40]
cups,
everything
[1:41:42]
to keep the well-oiled machine going.
And as a 14-year-old sitting there,
[1:41:48]
I work my tail off just like my older
brothers did
[1:41:52]
or just like the other kids in that dish
room that were 17, 18, 19 years old.
[1:41:58]
In 1983
or 2026,
[1:42:02]
if it's $3.35 an hour back then
or 15 bucks an hour now,
[1:42:08]
you should not devalue the work of a
14-year-old. I'll never forget that.
[1:42:12]
That's besides mowing lawns, that's one
of the first jobs that I had. And it
[1:42:17]
taught me responsibility,
but it also helped me understand
[1:42:21]
that my dad was a mailman, my mom was a
teacher, three brothers.
[1:42:26]
We weren't rich with money, but we were
rich with a great family.
[1:42:31]
Some of the kids that worked in that
dish room were from single-family homes
[1:42:35]
that took the bus down to Creighton.
Sometimes my dad, if he was picking me
[1:42:40]
up for my brothers before we drove,
he would give those kids a ride to save
[1:42:44]
them a little money on the fare for the
bus
[1:42:47]
because they had
no way to get back and forth to work.
[1:42:53]
It's a fairness issue, and when you want
to race things to the bottom,
[1:42:58]
I'll never forget that as a 14-year-old
kid
[1:43:01]
hustling and learning teamwork and
camaraderie,
[1:43:04]
if you're scraping a plate or doing
dishes
[1:43:07]
or silverware,
it's the same work, and we all you
[1:43:11]
didn't get a side of it. It's whoever
got to wear first. And if you need to
[1:43:14]
get the real guy that's fast loading in
the unloader, you figure that out, and
[1:43:19]
and you really learn teamwork in that.
So,
[1:43:22]
that's why I brought this ordinance, and
a lot of the the people that spoke today
[1:43:26]
talked about the 70.2%
of Omaha voters, not Douglas County,
[1:43:32]
Omaha, they said yes
to this in 2022.
[1:43:38]
And you think of what kids pay for today
or what I paid for back then, I helped
[1:43:42]
pay for some of my tuition at Cathedral
High School.
[1:43:46]
I could go to a movie.
I helped pay a little bit of my car
[1:43:49]
insurance like was mentioned here today.
Those are things that help working class
[1:43:54]
or working poor families
that are struggling today more than ever
[1:44:00]
in an economy there's affordability
crisis is going on, especially
[1:44:06]
you can certainly say here in Omaha,
people are feeling the pinch.
[1:44:10]
So,
as we went through, and I'll get to my
[1:44:13]
colleagues weighing in,
in each district, it was district one
[1:44:18]
was 75% of the voters said yes to this.
District two was 86%.
[1:44:24]
My district, district three was 89%.
District four, 74%.
[1:44:30]
District five, 63%.
District six, 63%.
[1:44:35]
District seven, 67.
You want to talk about a landslide or a
[1:44:40]
mandate, those numbers to me
really reflect the will and the mandate
[1:44:46]
of the voters when they pass this in
2022, it was passed statewide,
[1:44:51]
but in Douglas County and specifically
the city of Omaha,
[1:44:55]
the numbers speak to themselves. So,
I'm not about
[1:44:59]
pay cuts or a race to the bottom for
young workers because again, I never
[1:45:03]
forgot being a 14-year-old kid in that
dish room, and I loved that job. It was
[1:45:08]
great. It was one of the best
experiences ever, but we worked hard.
[1:45:12]
And I don't want to tell a kid that's 20
in 2026
[1:45:17]
or beyond that, "Hey, I did that job,
but your value is less than mine." I
[1:45:23]
don't ever forget where I came from. So,
that's why I'm obviously going to be
[1:45:27]
supportive of this and I appreciate the
law department working on it.
[1:45:31]
They got it before us here today. So,
I'm going to yield my time to Councilman
[1:45:36]
Festers and you're recognized.
>> Thanks, Mr. President, and thanks for
[1:45:40]
those remarks and for sharing that
perspective and for introducing this
[1:45:44]
measure today.
I support a living wage for all workers,
[1:45:47]
so I will also be supporting this
ordinance.
[1:45:50]
And I also want to thank all the
testifiers that we heard today,
[1:45:53]
especially the young people who did such
a nice job.
[1:45:56]
I love seeing that engagement on all
issues.
[1:45:59]
I also want to recognize City Councilman
James Michael Bowers who's here from
[1:46:03]
Lincoln.
He introduced a similar measure that did
[1:46:05]
pass in the city of Lincoln. So, I
appreciate you coming all the way to
[1:46:08]
Omaha today for this for this public
hearing.
[1:46:12]
Um
$15 and a cost of living cost of living
[1:46:16]
adjustment in 2027, I think is
reasonable.
[1:46:19]
And as has been noted, um
was approved by voters over 70% in the
[1:46:25]
city of Omaha.
So, I do believe it's a love of the
[1:46:28]
voters issue, also.
Um
[1:46:32]
I also believe it's consistent with the
mayor's poverty elimination plan.
[1:46:36]
Um in fact, this would be the first
measure if we adopt it, that would be
[1:46:39]
substantive in nature, um related to
that plan that this body approved over a
[1:46:44]
year ago now.
Um the last thing I'll offer today, this
[1:46:48]
is not the vote today,
um
[1:46:51]
but we discussed this morning
pre-council that with the holidays
[1:46:54]
coming up, there are several weeks where
the council's not meeting or when the
[1:46:58]
council members are traveling.
Um so, I know there's additional lights
[1:47:01]
here today, but I would offer a motion
that would set then this vote for July
[1:47:05]
14th, which I think does satisfy those
issues.
[1:47:10]
Thank you, Mr. President.
>> Thank you. We had a motion and a second
[1:47:12]
for
to lay over the vote on this item 29 to
[1:47:16]
July 14th.
We have more lights, Councilman Council
[1:47:21]
member Goodwin, you're recognized.
>> Thank you, Mr. President. And thank you
[1:47:26]
for bringing this issue
um before us today. You know, when you
[1:47:30]
first called me, it had me
reminiscing about my first job.
[1:47:36]
And it was detasseling corn. So, it was
actually below the minimum wage because
[1:47:41]
that's the law, you know, agricultural
jobs you can be paid a little less.
[1:47:45]
But, I was excited
to do that work. Uh because I wanted to
[1:47:50]
buy my own school clothes that year um
as a 14-year-old.
[1:47:55]
Um and so, I went I got up at 5:00 in
the morning and got on a bus and drove
[1:48:00]
out to cornfields, Iowa, Nebraska. And
um by the end of the summer, I was the
[1:48:05]
foreman because everybody else had quit.
So.
[1:48:09]
» [laughter]
>> Uh but then I I got a job uh at
[1:48:13]
McDonald's
because I was trying to alleviate the
[1:48:17]
stress of my mom
uh because she was a single mother.
[1:48:21]
And it helped pay for bus fare.
It helped pay for my um
[1:48:27]
ACT exams. And it was a it was a type of
financial independence
[1:48:33]
uh as um a teenager uh in high school.
Um
[1:48:39]
all the testimonies today again, I
connect with so many of the proponents.
[1:48:45]
Um even the comment around the Baja
burrito. Uh they did not have a Baja
[1:48:49]
burrito in the 1990s, but uh after
school, I'd catch a ride with my friend.
[1:48:56]
We'd go to Taco Bell for the burritos
were 69 cents. The taco pizzas I think
[1:49:01]
were just a little more. And then we'd
head uh head to telemarketing.
[1:49:05]
Because I realized that after working
about 6 months at uh McDonald's for
[1:49:10]
$3.25, that the telemarketers were
paying $6.50 an hour. And that That a
[1:49:15]
huge increase. Again, I was in high
school. What am I really trying to
[1:49:19]
frame? That there are youth, kids,
teenagers who are thinking about
[1:49:24]
economics in the way that sometimes
adults are.
[1:49:27]
And that's actually not a bad thing.
Because it's really preparing them for
[1:49:32]
uh the real world or as my kids like to
say adulting.
[1:49:37]
Um I also think it's important that we
do respect the will of the people.
[1:49:42]
Uh people don't have faith in our
democratic process right now. So many
[1:49:48]
people when you ask them if they're
registered to vote, if they plan to vote
[1:49:50]
in the next election, the first thing
they tell you is my vote doesn't count.
[1:49:55]
And so I think that when you have
a a measure like this that
[1:49:59]
overwhelmingly was decided by the people
in a bipartisan way that that
[1:50:06]
we have to look at that
and hold it up and reinforce
[1:50:12]
to the citizens that their vote matters.
And so I will be supporting this
[1:50:17]
measure. Uh but I also want to focus on
wage inequality and equality, which this
[1:50:23]
measure actually does.
Sometimes I feel like just because of my
[1:50:27]
life experience that I I sit on every
spectrum of the of the
[1:50:33]
situation, if you will. And I can
remember a job
[1:50:37]
uh I was in my late 20s and um
I was actually having to use another
[1:50:44]
printer in that office and I came upon a
memo and it was my um
[1:50:49]
supervisor at the time and
she was talking to HR because she said,
[1:50:55]
"Lavonya is the only black person
working here and she's being paid less.
[1:51:00]
I'm concerned."
So I had this memo that was stating
[1:51:04]
that I was literally being paid less
as the only African-American female and
[1:51:10]
yet it wasn't because of necessarily
credentialing or experience. These
[1:51:15]
things really happen. Now, that was 30
years ago, but I think that we have to
[1:51:20]
keep moving forward in equality and in
in wage equality and not moving
[1:51:24]
backward. I also think that as I was
reading the
[1:51:29]
the the statute, that it seemed very
difficult.
[1:51:36]
The wage um the minimum wage is simply
that. It's a minimum wage. And when you
[1:51:40]
start nuancing it over age and nuancing
over training, it's just not really how
[1:51:46]
we currently do it. So, it brings in a
com- complexity that's not necessary.
[1:51:52]
And so, um I will be supporting this
amendment. I do appreciate the young
[1:51:57]
people who have
um
[1:51:59]
come out to um
s- express their vo- uh voices um
[1:52:04]
and keep being engaged. Your voice
matters. Uh and when you're old enough,
[1:52:09]
your vote matters. And um thank you
again, uh Council Member Begley, for
[1:52:13]
bringing this up for for our vote, which
will be next week
[1:52:18]
or in several weeks. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Council Member Rowe. You're
[1:52:23]
recognized.
>> Thank you, Mr. Begley. Um
[1:52:26]
I appreciate the comment from Mr. King
that uh
[1:52:30]
the the constituents that are emailing
me about this ordinance right now, it's
[1:52:34]
about 50/50. I'm getting
>> Good one, please confirm.
[1:52:37]
» Yeah, so I am I I'll verify that that's
true. The the communication that I'm
[1:52:42]
getting, it's about
50/50.
[1:52:45]
Um
you know, in the last couple of weeks,
[1:52:49]
even in the months, I've been concerned
about how the City Council, the
[1:52:55]
relationship that the City Council has
with the state of Nebraska.
[1:52:59]
And I think we all know that the City
Council does serve at the pleasure of
[1:53:03]
the state.
And so, I do have a concern. I'm
[1:53:06]
conflicted because I do recognize the
the big numbers of people that signed
[1:53:12]
the petition and and that voted.
And so I I get that. But I also
[1:53:17]
recognize that the state legislature
took this up as a as a bill and passed a
[1:53:23]
bill that um
we're going to be in conflict with in my
[1:53:27]
opinion. It It appears to me we'll be in
conflict with the state again. And I
[1:53:32]
mean I've not talked to the Attorney
General. I don't know what his
[1:53:35]
intentions would be. I think he might
have had some communication with the
[1:53:39]
Lincoln City Council. I'm not sure of
that, but I do have some concern when
[1:53:44]
when we go into conflict with
um
[1:53:48]
with the state of Nebraska. I I'm
reading through the ordinance. I've been
[1:53:52]
reading through the ordinance. Tonight I
have I am not ready to say yes or no.
[1:53:57]
I've I'm I'm going to still do some
study over the next month and next 3
[1:54:01]
weeks and try to understand the the
consequences of going one way or the
[1:54:07]
other. But I would like to ask some
questions of uh Kaylen.
[1:54:13]
If you would come up, Kaylen is our HRNR
director and
[1:54:17]
and this ordinance will be uh placed
upon her department uh for
[1:54:23]
for management. And I I want to start
off with there's there as as Senator
[1:54:28]
Armendariz said, there are some
exceptions. I want to read off some of
[1:54:32]
the exceptions to this uh to this
ordinance.
[1:54:35]
So it'd be any individual that's
employed in agriculture.
[1:54:40]
Any individual employed as a babysitter
or in or about a private home.
[1:54:47]
Any individual employed in a bonafide
executive, administrative, or
[1:54:50]
professional capacity or as a
superintendent or supervisor.
[1:54:56]
Any individual employed by the United
States or by the state or any political
[1:55:00]
subdivision thereof as Christie
mentioned including any individual
[1:55:05]
incarcerated in any correctional
facility.
[1:55:09]
Any individual engaged in the activities
of an educational, charitable,
[1:55:13]
religious, or nonprofit organization
when the employer employee relationship
[1:55:17]
does not in fact exist or when the
services rendered to such organization
[1:55:22]
are on a voluntary basis.
Here's one, apprentices and learners
[1:55:28]
otherwise provided by law.
A veterans in training under supervision
[1:55:32]
of the United States Department of
Veterans Affairs.
[1:55:35]
A child of in the employment of his or
her parent or a parent in the employment
[1:55:40]
of his or her child.
Or any person who directly or indirectly
[1:55:44]
is receiving any form of federal, state,
county, or local aid or welfare.
[1:55:49]
And who is physically or mentally
disabled and employed in a program of
[1:55:53]
rehabilitation.
Who shall receive a wage at a level
[1:55:56]
consistent with his or her health,
efficiency, and general well-being.
[1:56:00]
So those are the exceptions
to the to the ordinance the way I
[1:56:04]
understand it. Would Would you say that
that's correct Caitlin?
[1:56:08]
» Correct. Those are the exceptions to the
definition of who would be considered an
[1:56:11]
employee who would have a right to the
minimum wage under this ordinance.
[1:56:14]
» Okay. So I I would I would say that
they would not be held
[1:56:20]
um to the standards for the for the
minimum wage at this at this ordinance
[1:56:24]
is talking about. Is that right?
>> The An employer would not be required to
[1:56:28]
pay the minimum wage outlined in this
ordinance to those people listed in
[1:56:31]
those exceptions.
>> Okay. Great.
[1:56:33]
Uh there's a couple of questions I have
on um on some just some of the logistics
[1:56:38]
on how will you be able to manage it? So
the one is the the worker that earns
[1:56:43]
tips.
So on how does How is that going to be
[1:56:47]
handled? Is that they're going to be
paid $2.13 or a minimum of $2.13 an hour
[1:56:53]
plus their tips? And how does that How
will that work?
[1:56:58]
» Caitlin Deheilia, director of the Human
Rights and Relations Department. Excuse
[1:57:01]
me for that, but I work at 1819 Farnam,
Suite 502.
[1:57:06]
The
calculations [snorts]
[1:57:08]
for tipped workers would account for
that $2.13
[1:57:11]
per hour plus the gratuities. And if
those two combined didn't get to the
[1:57:17]
minimum wage rate, either $15 this year
or the
[1:57:22]
rate adjusted based on the consumer
price index in subsequent years,
[1:57:26]
then that's where there would be a
violation potentially. So, they have a
[1:57:29]
right to that same rate. It's just that
it can be that 213 plus tips.
[1:57:34]
» Okay. So, if they were to receive tips
short
[1:57:38]
if they if you took their $2.13 and they
received $5 tips,
[1:57:43]
then the the employer would make up the
difference to 15. Is that how that would
[1:57:46]
work?
>> Correct.
[1:57:48]
» Okay. So, how do they how do they manage
that? How does because I I noticed that
[1:57:52]
it's the the burden of proof on the
payment is on the employer.
[1:57:58]
So, how does the employer expected to
manage How do they know
[1:58:02]
you know, if I if I go to a
um a restaurant and I
[1:58:06]
put, you know, $15 cash on the table.
How how do they know that that's
[1:58:11]
part of that that waitress's or waiter's
um
[1:58:14]
wages?
>> So, from my experience waiting tables,
[1:58:17]
right? Part of my responsibility as a
server was to report the tips I received
[1:58:21]
in cash. And also part of the employer's
responsibility was of course to report
[1:58:25]
those tips that we received through
credit cards. And so, together, the
[1:58:29]
record keeping of the employer would
contain those two
[1:58:33]
amounts at the end of a shift,
presumably. And that would be those
[1:58:36]
would be the records that the employer
would have to account for the tips.
[1:58:40]
» Okay. So, it is it is accounted for. Can
you talk about uh there was mention of
[1:58:45]
the student learner.
And how does that how how does that part
[1:58:50]
of the program work? If you're a student
learner
[1:58:53]
of a bonafide vocational training
program,
[1:58:56]
you can
earn less wages than the minimum wage.
[1:59:00]
Is that Do I understand that correctly?
>> Mr. Kusi, would you be able to speak to
[1:59:04]
that at all?
[1:59:08]
» Mac Kusi,
excuse me, Mac [clears throat] Kusi from
[1:59:09]
the law department.
The
[1:59:12]
the sections that you're referring to
with these definitions and the list of
[1:59:15]
the exceptions, those were pulled
directly from the state statute that
[1:59:19]
already exists and the legislature
doesn't exactly define student learner.
[1:59:25]
Um I know that doesn't completely answer
your question, but that's a little bit I
[1:59:27]
guess of of a prelude to it. With regard
to how that that would work, your direct
[1:59:32]
question is that this ordinance proposes
that the burden of keeping track of the
[1:59:37]
records for how they're paying people
and how they're classified, including if
[1:59:41]
there are any exceptions, um to the
classification of the employees is going
[1:59:46]
to be on the business owner, the
employer, I guess, in order to make
[1:59:50]
those distinctions and the records that
they're going to be required to keep
[1:59:52]
under this ordinance.
>> Okay, how are we How are we going to
[1:59:56]
know if they are a part of a bonafide
vocational training program?
[2:00:01]
» Part of what we'll do before rolling out
the ordinance, if the ordinance is
[2:00:05]
approved, is is defined further what
these means, look into how how the state
[2:00:09]
looks at these definitions and applies
them just to have a good understanding
[2:00:13]
of how we would apply those exceptions.
>> Okay.
[2:00:18]
Um
Now, this one I I think you sent us some
[2:00:21]
some information on a fiscal note, but I
wanted to kind of talk through that,
[2:00:25]
too, cuz can you Can it Can you explain
what is this going to cost
[2:00:29]
the city of Omaha to implement
um this ordinance from your department's
[2:00:34]
perspective? I mean, how many employees
are you going to have to add? How many
[2:00:38]
dollars are you going to have to spend
to administer?
[2:00:41]
» Sure, my plan would be to hire one human
relation relations representative one to
[2:00:47]
work on this ordinance and so that
person would responsible be responsible
[2:00:50]
initially for social
socializing the ordinance and making
[2:00:54]
sure that employers and employees are
aware of their responsibilities and
[2:00:57]
rights.
[2:01:00]
I would hope to be able to hire that
person by about September and so I
[2:01:04]
anticipate this year we'd have about a
third of that cost all all in with wages
[2:01:09]
and benefits. I estimate that would be
right around $36,000 for this year. And
[2:01:14]
then for next year about $110,000 for
that person. It might be that we
[2:01:18]
anticipate the volumes aren't sufficient
to support a full-time equivalent
[2:01:22]
employee and so we might fill that role
at a half-time employee. I haven't fully
[2:01:26]
decided yet because we really have it
it's early and we want to see see how
[2:01:30]
things are looking before we formalize
these decisions, but what I outlined
[2:01:34]
here is what I anticipate the maximum
cost being initially at least for the
[2:01:37]
first year and a half.
And then
[2:01:40]
the remainder of the cost that I
highlighted are to publicize the
[2:01:44]
ordinance. So we have a responsibility
under the ordinance to develop a poster
[2:01:48]
and then make sure that it gets out to
employers so that they know what they're
[2:01:51]
expected to pay especially next year
because it'll deviate from what's due in
[2:01:55]
this at the state level. And we're going
to take that responsibility seriously.
[2:01:58]
We want to make sure that we're mailing
it to the employers we can mail it to
[2:02:01]
that we're getting out on social media
with paid campaigns that we're getting
[2:02:05]
out on TV and radio to educate employers
about their responsibilities. In doing
[2:02:09]
so also educating employees about their
rights, but
[2:02:13]
I I think of our responsibility is to
make sure that nobody is taken by
[2:02:15]
surprise by this ordinance and so that's
what we would plan on doing for the the
[2:02:20]
rest of this year. So that's about a
$50,000 cost this year. For next year
[2:02:24]
it's about $135,000.
>> You know,
[2:02:28]
the mayor is going to be presenting his
budget for 27 in the next couple of
[2:02:32]
weeks. Has
has there been consideration that if
[2:02:35]
this ordinance passed
is there going to be dollars in the
[2:02:38]
budget
to cover that expense or is
[2:02:42]
how is that How's you know, you had that
conversation with the mayor?
[2:02:45]
» I've informed Mayor Yuring and I spoke
about it at my budget meeting last week
[2:02:49]
letting them know that there would be we
would need to staff and do some work to
[2:02:53]
proactively educate the public about
this ordinance which would have a cost.
[2:02:57]
» Okay.
Um
[2:03:00]
And I had a question on the
implementation as well. It says the
[2:03:03]
director shall promulgate appropriate
guidelines or rules to implement the
[2:03:08]
provisions of this chapter.
Such rules shall be reviewed by the city
[2:03:12]
law department to ensure that they are
in compliance with this chapter.
[2:03:16]
Do we know what those rules are?
>> We don't know what the rules will look
[2:03:20]
like formally yet, but one of the things
that I'm
[2:03:22]
uh thinking about doing because it's a
new requirement is
[2:03:27]
uh taking a softer approach to
enforcement initially. So this year,
[2:03:30]
rather than filing charges right away
against employers when we receive
[2:03:34]
complaints, notifying employers of the
of the issue and of the need to course
[2:03:39]
correct and then giving them an
opportunity to course correct prior to
[2:03:42]
initiating an investigation. So
uh I think, you know, the the rules
[2:03:47]
could outline how that how those
processes might look,
[2:03:50]
how we might gather evidence, what
happens after we find there's a
[2:03:55]
violation and let's say an employer
doesn't want to pay what's due to the
[2:03:57]
employees. So we'll we'll define further
the processes that we can't quite define
[2:04:02]
through this ordinance.
>> Okay.
[2:04:12]
Okay.
[2:04:17]
Uh can you talk about the penalties for
violations? You mentioned the
[2:04:20]
violations. What
penalties will be [clears throat] put in
[2:04:24]
place?
[2:04:28]
» The penalties section is section 39-8
and it allows the director of the Human
[2:04:34]
Rights and Relations Department to
assess a $500 penalty payable to the
[2:04:37]
city for each violation of the
ordinance.
[2:04:43]
And then and those those violations
would be violations of the notice
[2:04:47]
requirements, violations of the payment
to the employees, and violations of
[2:04:52]
[clears throat] the retaliation
uh
[2:04:55]
prohibition.
[2:04:58]
So, that's that's it in sum.
>> Okay. Okay.
[2:05:02]
Okay.
[2:05:05]
I don't think I have any other
questions. Those were just some that I
[2:05:07]
had kind of have been trying to
make sure I had an understanding.
[2:05:12]
And I I'm sure I'll have more questions
on the
[2:05:15]
14th. So, thank you, Mr. President.
>> Thank you, Council Member Melton. You're
[2:05:21]
recognized.
>> Thank you. Um
[2:05:24]
I mean, I think the good news is I
haven't been able to find anyone any
[2:05:27]
employer that's paying less than $15 an
hour. Um even Jimmy John's was paying
[2:05:33]
like 1750.
So, I I think the market has kind of
[2:05:37]
determined what the pay rate should be.
I mean, I just think that's
[2:05:41]
that's good news um is that the
employers are need need people,
[2:05:45]
especially the the fast food
restaurants, and they're they're paying
[2:05:48]
they're paying the young people a higher
wage than they're even required to pay.
[2:05:52]
So, that's good news. Um so, and I was
just curious um does anybody have those
[2:05:57]
stats?
Do we have any of the statistics about
[2:06:02]
how many people this would affect? And
and I didn't mean that if you can come
[2:06:06]
down, you may or may not be able to
answer, but I don't know who could
[2:06:09]
answer this. We're passing this, and
what I'm saying is
[2:06:13]
I I you know, how many people is this
necessarily going to affect? Do we know
[2:06:17]
how many 14- and 15-year-olds are
getting paid less than $15 an hour?
[2:06:23]
» I don't know oh, 14- and 15-year-olds
specifically, I don't know.
[2:06:26]
» Cuz that's what we're I mean, that's
what we're talk the 1350 an hour is just
[2:06:29]
for the young people.
>> Sure. I have the I pulled the 2024 ACS
[2:06:34]
one-year
estimate data for Omaha and it shows
[2:06:38]
that 9.1% of people
or 16,809 people were earning less than
[2:06:43]
$24,990
$999 or $12 an hour in 2024 and the same
[2:06:50]
data set has 10.4% of people just over
19,000 earning 25,000 to 34,999 which is
[2:06:58]
up to 16 $12 to 1683 an hour. So I know
that goes beyond the minimum wage, but
[2:07:03]
just to highlight it's about 19% of
people
[2:07:07]
in Omaha that could potentially be be
impacted by a minimum wage ordinance.
[2:07:13]
According to the ACS one-year estimate
data from 2024.
[2:07:17]
» That's from 2024. I I was asking about
the 1350 the like lower than if anybody
[2:07:23]
has anything
>> that data right now.
[2:07:26]
» I have to call you back up and tell you
what
[2:07:28]
» from the Thank you.
>> I'm going to call you back up if you
[2:07:30]
have but only for the purpose if you
have the answer to my question not for
[2:07:34]
any other reason.
And those are the laws. I'm not saying
[2:07:38]
that cuz I don't want you to talk. I can
only call you back up to address
[2:07:42]
something that I'm asking.
>> Yes, I wanted to share I'm not an expert
[2:07:47]
on this but I'm pretty sure that
>> Name and address.
[2:07:49]
» Sorry. Gab Rima, I've had my address
requirement waived.
[2:07:52]
» Thank you.
>> Um
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the
bill that was passed this year in the
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legislature that created this lower
youth minimum wage doesn't go into
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effect until July 1st.
So no one has been affected affected by
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this yet.
>> Okay. Well, that Thank you for answering
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that question.
Okay.
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So it very well may be that
no one lowers the pay it'll just be for
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future workers. I I don't know. I'm
my biggest problem that I have with this
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is
I don't I just don't know that Omaha has
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the authority
to do this. Um I think that state law
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preempts the city from doing this, but
um, I'll go into the legal arguments. I
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think I have a little more time to do my
legal research before July 14th. Um,
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I have
14 and 15-year-olds I believe should be
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paid the same as
what their counterparts are paid and
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like everyone else here, I mean, I got
my start well, babysitting and
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volunteering, um, working at Little
Caesars.
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Um, and doing those jobs of of serving
pizza, working at McDonald's, doing the
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morning shift. So, um, I would I was
also up and had to be at report to
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McDonald's by 5:00 a.m. Um, and walked
down there cuz
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you know, I didn't have a car. Um, and
so, I get it and I can't imagine I I
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think that
15-year-old doing the job next to the
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17-year-old, you know, they should be
getting paid for what they're doing.
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I would like to think that employers
would actually do the right thing and do
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that or they're not going to be able to
find the workers.
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Um,
I'm not sure I'm not sure the reasons
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why the legislature decided to
just make carve out an exception for
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1350 for 14 and 15-year-olds.
Um,
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but
uh, Senator, maybe you and I can talk
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about that later since we have time
before the before the vote. Um, but
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again,
uh,
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I
I'm not against having everybody paid
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$15 an hour if we're going to set a
minimum wage. I I don't really think
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it's going to affect employers that much
if they have to pay 14 and 15-year-olds.
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They probably just won't hire them.
It is going to be the problem. 14 and
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15-year-olds just may not get hired if
they have to pay $15 an hour. Uh, but
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um,
I I don't think that that
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this ordinance would change much for um,
the employers and the cost. I guess my
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only problem is if you have a different
increase in CPI for minimum wage, Again,
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that's where I think that the state law
may preempt the city and we may not have
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that legal authority to do it. And I
don't like to do things that I don't
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have the legal authority to do, even if
I want to do it. I did take an oath of
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office that I will uphold the law.
Um and so, again, I'll I'll take some
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time to do that legal research uh before
the 14th and the vote. So, thank you.
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» Thank you. I I had a couple questions.
I'll get to you Mr. Rowe if I can. Um
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Cailin, can I just get a follow-up?
Maybe this is for you or Mr. Coozy.
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I think for Councilmember Rowe, you
referenced
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the penalties for violations section
39-8 number one I
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or number one. So, can you read what one
I says? So, there's a $500
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assessment
for the violation by the employer. So, I
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And that was a good point that
Councilmember Rowe made, but tell us can
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you read I to us what that says and what
that means?
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» Cailin Dehelius, director of the Human
Rights and Relations Department. Do you
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mean Do you mean A1, the director may
waive?
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» Yes.
>> Okay. So, 30 section 39-8 A1 reads, "The
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director may waive the total amount of
penalties or reduce the penalty if the
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director determines the employer paid
the full remedy due to the employee
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within 10 days
of receiving the notice of violation of
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this chapter."
>> So, if I read
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confirm, does that give you the
flexibility to work with the employer if
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there was a violation
and they paid it, you can waive the $500
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assess fee. Is it
>> Absolutely. And typically, this this
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language would only apply if we got to a
point where we were making a finding of
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violation at after an investigation
happened. Often, there's a settlement
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opportunity very early on in the process
where often penalties wouldn't even be
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necessarily part of that conversation.
We'd really be prioritizing the wages to
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employees.
>> Okay. Thanks and I have one more
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question just maybe for Mr. Cozzi, but
don't go far.
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» Matt Cozzi, Law Department.
>> Mr. Cozzi, the exemptions under
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it would be section, let's see,
39-2
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number three, all those from
A to H and then
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4 5 6 7, I guess.
You see that section there?
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» Do you mean section 39-2
subsection E?
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Employee shall include any individual
under the employ of an employer but does
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not include and there's a list of nine
categories.
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» Correct.
>> Okay, yes.
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» Do those are those different than what
was under the current state law that was
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passed, those exemptions?
>> They're not. They were taken from state
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statute which is
Nebraska state statute 40 at 48-1202.
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» Okay. Thanks for clarifying that and
Councilman Bro got me thinking about
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this. The other one he had mentioned I
think was
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on tips. Does this ordinance change the
record requirements on tips at all?
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» The record requirements?
>> Yeah, for what when you get tips
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is what we have written in here, is that
the same as the state law that it's not
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any different than what the state law,
it mirrors the state law, correct?
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» It mirrors It mirrors section 48-1203
of the state statute.
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» Okay. All right, thanks for clarifying
that. Councilman Bro, thanks for your
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patience.
>> Sure, thank you.
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» So, I mean we are duplicating
there's a there's some du- duplication
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going on between enforcement by the
state and enforcement by the city of the
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same
of the same thing.
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You could say that we're spending
a dollar twice.
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Basically.
>> Are you asking me?
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» No, I'm just making a statement.
>> I'll comment on that. Okay. Um
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I did I wanted to speak to what um
Council Member Milton I I did call
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um
a local business in my district. It's
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he's a franchisee owner of a fast-food
restaurant and I asked him, you know,
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what does this really make a difference?
And he said,
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"Absolutely, it does make a difference."
He said, "Don, the 14- and 15-year-olds
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that I hire" and he does hire
14- and 15-year-olds, but he said they
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can't do the job that the 16-year-old
can do.
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He said, "There are limitations. I don't
know if that's state law or what, but
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there's certain there are certain
activities in the workplace that they
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cannot do. So, he uses the 14- and
15-year-olds to do the job where they're
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where they can appropriately do that
work. And then when they become 16, then
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they can move up in the in the workforce
and and do those jobs or 18 or whatever
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those minimum ages are."
And he made the comment that that he
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does pay the 14- and 15-year-olds a
little bit less because he said, "Quite
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honestly, they they really
are just there to get work experience."
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And he goes, "I they don't really have a
skill set yet to be able to to
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contribute like a 16-year-old or an
older employee."
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That was his that was his take. I said,
"Well, what happens when they turn 16?"
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He said, "I have to pay more than
minimum wage when they hit 16 because
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now I have another level of competition.
And for me to keep employees that work
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in my restaurant for me to keep them, I
have to pay them more than the $15 an
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hour because if I don't, they're going
to walk down the street and find a
[2:15:50]
different job. So, there the market kind
of helps dictate what's what's going to
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be an appropriate wage uh for
skill set for certain uh skill set. So,
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I hope that kind of answers a little bit
of the question and it I mean it it for
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him it was it's a real it's a real
um
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thing that we're having a discussion
about today.
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» Thank you.
No further lights on this item.
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You had a mo- you had a motion and a
second that was made to lay over the
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vote to July 14th, correct?
>> Correct.
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» Okay. No further lights, roll call.
>> Hug.
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» Yes.
>> Melton.
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» Yes.
>> Rowe.
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» Yes.
>> Festersen.
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» Yes.
>> Goodwin.
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» Yes.
>> Harding.
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» Yes.
>> Mr. President.
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» Aye.
>> Motion passed 7 to 0. Non-action items,
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items 30 through 58 do not require
public hearing or city council
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consideration at this meeting, but will
be placed on a future agenda for public
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hearing and a vote. The reason for
non-action is noted after the item on
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the agenda, as well as the date item is
expected to appear on agenda for
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consideration.
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» Motion and a second to adjourn, roll
call.
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» Hug.
>> Yes.
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» Melton. Rowe.
>> Yes.
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» Festersen.
>> Yes.
[2:17:02]
» Goodwin.
>> Yes.
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» Harding.
>> Yes.
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» Mr. President.
>> Aye.
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» Motion passed 7 to 0. Meeting is
adjourned at 3:56.