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What?
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>> Good evening. Uh, we'll get started.
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I'll call the call to order the village
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board of Oregon for Monday, October 5th,
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2026. I'd ask the clerk to call the
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role, please.
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>> Higgins
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>> here.
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>> Kirk Dorfer
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>> here. Canifer.
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>> Oh, Le Marks
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>> here.
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>> McDaniel here and Vancampen
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>> here. Thank you. Approval of September
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21st, 2026 village board meeting
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minutes. Uh Marks and Kurter.
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Corre corrections or changes [snorts]
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hearing. Now we have a motion by Mark,
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second by Kurt Stroer. All those in
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favor indicate by saying I. I.
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>> Those oppos say no. Motion carries. Item
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four, public appearances, comments, and
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communications. Item for discussion and
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or possible action. A presentation from
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Oregon Community Access OCA Media
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related to the 2027 village budget
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request.
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» Good afternoon. I'm Paul Zwicker, uh,
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director of OCA Media, also a resident
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here in Oregon.
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>> Mark Miller, uh, the board of OCA media,
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uh, 124 Harvest Circle in Oregon.
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>> Uh, Josiah Wampler, programming manager
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at OCA Media.
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» Um, this is my executive summary and
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it'll be my last one, too, because I'm
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retiring. um for OCA media that is uh in
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uh 2025. OCA media demonstrated strong
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operational stability,
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we uh we we reached record digital reach
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and consistent civic coverage like
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meetings like this. As we look ahead to
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27, our 27 funding [snorts] request,
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sustained invent investment from the
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village board will help ensure OCA meet
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remains the primary trusted source for
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local transparency, news, civic
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engagement, and Oregon school district
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activities.
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With traditional local news outlets
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declining, OCA media bridges a gap by
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delivering live municipal coverage,
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short form government meeting recaps and
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local cultural programming directly to
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Oregon residents on multiple platforms.
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Um
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we have uh some key performance
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highlights on slide two from our digital
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growth um our digital growth and reach.
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We grew by 800 subscribers last year and
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by the end of the year we're at 4661
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and our viewership had about 110,000
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views across all our video um across our
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video programming. Um
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I have some social media statistics that
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Frank Kuso was going to present but he's
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unable to be here tonight. Um our social
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media impact is huge in this town. Um
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our monthly Facebook reach peaked at
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50,000 plus people a month in 19 in 2025
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and this uh this year our highlights um
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from Facebook
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analy analytics in Facebook I can't we
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can't do annually
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um so monthly
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let me find that
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document sorry about that I hope I have
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it still
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well the September documents
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are hiding.
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Yeah, I could just read up there if I
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could read that far.
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Yeah,
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apologize. Um, Arc has them set up for
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me large enough to read. Uh, as you're
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>> 90,000.
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>> Yes. So, last month alone, we we reached
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90,000 plus views. um 300%
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of the conversations were um had
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messaging conversations and um
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[clears throat]
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that's pretty consistent engagement for
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28 days.
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Um
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as as uh this is Frank writing this,
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more than numbers, we're building
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connections. Our audience isn't simply
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watching, they're engaging. Uh people
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are reaching out, starting
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conversations, sharing our content, and
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turning to OCA media as a trusted source
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for what's happening in their community.
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And we're just getting started. Every
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view represents a person. Every
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conversation represents a connection and
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every story gives our community a voice.
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OCI Media is putting Oregon stories in
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front of the people who matter most, our
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neighbors, families, businesses,
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schools, nonprofits, and community
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organizations.
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Um he writes that uh
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we had 90,23
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views, thousands of connections in in
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one community. That's pretty big impact
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just on our social media Facebook post.
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Um, [clears throat] I think uh it proves
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that what we're doing is working in this
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town. People are relying on us and uh
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it's um it's important that that they
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have a source to go to. Um
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[clears throat]
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on site three, I want to talk about a
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little bit about our staffing.
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[clears throat]
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Hang on a second. We're out of
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>> Yeah. Okay. So you can see that last
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year we did 371 events or videos um more
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for the village related stories and
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events than we did for the school. Um
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you can see how easily uh it it's
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displayed nicely so you can decipher the
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impacts month by month. you can tell
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when we uh had more more events in uh
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school rel uh school related events at
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the end of the year and then drops off
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in summer obviously. Um, in slide four,
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um,
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I want you to note that our requests
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our request for two 2027 of $100,000
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should allow us to produce about 75
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municipal meetings and 25 community
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events and our use our social media
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outreach to push village news and
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notices.
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school district does contribute about
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25,000 plus in kind through office space
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at the high school and which is
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extremely convenient for us because many
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of the events that happen in our
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community uh happen in that in that
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area. Um we raised about $30,000 this
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year, actually over $30,000 in private
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donations and civic groups and sports
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and corporate underwriting. That's up
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quite a bit from last year as we made a
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We had a we had some people actually
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come forward and want to be part of our
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organization
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and that was a really nice thing to not
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have to cold call new businesses. Um
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going to slide five, we're talking about
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trans um our franchise fees um which as
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everybody knows is declining and that's
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our core public revenue and our board
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continues to work to find alternative
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long-term
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sources of revenue. Um, someone has
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joined us recently to help out with uh,
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grant writing and we hope to continue
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that effort along with working with
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local organizations to reach private
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trusts that people may want to um,
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donate to uh, our nonprofit that way.
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Um, going on to equipment, which I
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mentioned in a a recent meeting, our
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broadcast server is was installed in
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2017 and it's well past its life
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expectancy.
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Um, to replace that unit, it's about 15
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to $20,000. And, um, now we're thinking
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that it's going to die. So, we'll just
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probably,
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uh, at this point, um, continue to work
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towards our viewership that's online.
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um that is where we get our numbers from YouTube and and Facebook and um
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we're kind of planning for it to fail
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and we'll continue to move towards our
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online distribution that as we are now.
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We did purchase two new Sony cameras to
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replace 8-year-old cameras that are uh
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failing. And we need one more unit to uh
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complete our pack of three that
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occasionally all three are out at the
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same time at three different events and
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even then we may need a fourth. So we do
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have our old cameras that are still
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operational.
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We're hoping to fund raise for that
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final camera that that new one to match
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the other two. And every [snorts] uh we
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do rotate our editing system and and
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computers. Uh every few years we upgrade
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them so they don't fail because those
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are our lifeblood as well as our cameras
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and and our distributions.
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Um
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as I said, we are talking about grant
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funding. Uh we did receive some grants
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uh a grant from Dan County Arts last
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year to get some equipment and we're
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going to continue along that uh that
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way.
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Um,
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moving on. Um, I think it's, uh,
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slide six would be good for Josiah to
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take over, um, and talk about where
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we're going for a little bit and where
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we hope to go, providing we have, uh,
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the funds to do so.
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>> Yes. Uh so um [clears throat]
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given the uh reduction in funding uh we
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are adapting by doing some restructuring
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of staff. So currently we have four
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positions
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um all part-time executive director,
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program manager, social media manager
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and production assistant. Um next year
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that will be going down to three
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positions. Um the executive director
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will become full-time
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um uh and absorb uh some of some of the
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hours um uh needed. And then the uh um
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content manager position uh will be kind
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of a reduction of my current uh
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programming manager position. Um
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uh so all in all it's about a thousand
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less hours a year uh after restructuring
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might be actually a little bit more. I'm
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not sure exactly how we calculated that
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number. Um so yeah we're uh doing what
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we need to do to adapt to the uh
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funding. And if we can go to the next
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slide.
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So yeah, um yeah, this just basically
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shows the um village contribution, the
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franchise fees which are going down. Um
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and then shows that this year we did a
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lot to counteract what we knew was
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coming with the uh the funding decrease.
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Um uh I believe that um underwriting
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number was we basically did about 10,000
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more than last year. So um hoping to uh
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continue that uh in the coming years to
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um to uh yeah improve our uh funding
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situation uh even more so. Uh you can go
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to the next slide.
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So yeah, the funding request is
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$100,000. It's about 23 uh% down from
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last year. Um what you get is what we
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currently do. Um, we aren't planning on
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uh uh cutting too much in in in the way
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of services. We tried to make up uh for
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that with the uh staff um changes and
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whatnot. Um so the the plan for 2027 is
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just to
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do more uh to search out grants um that
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uh that we can get uh both uh state and
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federal. um try to get more uh private
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donations and and underwriting uh
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because we have a lot of ambition when
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it comes to uh what we want to do for
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this community. Um you know, we started
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doing the the video recaps of the
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meetings this year. That's been going
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fairly well. We hope to continue that
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into next year. I would even like to
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start possibly doing them for the
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schoolboard meetings if we can. um we
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want to be a source for information for
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this community because there are so few
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sources out there. Um so you know the job of the next several years is
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just trying to close the gap between our
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ambitions and what we can actually fund.
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So um but $100,000 next year um we'll be able to uh get by. So,
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>> um, yeah.
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>> Um, I think, uh, Mark, we're gonna have
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Mark, our treasurer, go through some,
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uh, request numbers on our budget.
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>> So, presented to you as a budget for
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2027. And so, incorporating with the
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anticipated, uh, support that the
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village can provide to us um, with
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100,000, we can look at what our income
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could potentially be. So, really focus
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on all these lines of spreadsheet. You
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guys are really good at seeing a lot of
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that. So look at the income line in
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particular and total income and so
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that's where we're anticipating our
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total income would be if you uh look at
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the 100,000 is where the village would
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be sustained and you can see as you go
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previous years um back into 2026 and uh
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from our budget 2025 2024 23 um you can
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see where that m amount has changed and
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reduced. So what we did is uh with the
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focus of staffing how we go about it um
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is that adjusting to that that income
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portion of it. What we did and um and
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continue to focus on is if we get
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quality programming that what we can do
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is we can actually do about better
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outreach and get more reliability. And
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so that's a large portion of what we've
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been doing. Certainly the granting I
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side of it. But you also notice in the
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line item regards to uh donations as
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well as underwriting. That's been a lot
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more outgoing that we've done. And so
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some of that is from our social media uh
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just putting that message out that uh uh
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the funding is changing and so we need
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some of your financial support and
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that's added a lot more to it. And so
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that's helped us to settle out some of
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the the the line items, the costs on it.
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overall uh we do have uh done some
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production [clears throat]
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that we actually will do for other
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organizations and so that's been able to
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help out a little bit with some income
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but it does take labor [clears throat]
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it does take people to be able to do
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that as well but we do have some of the
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technology and the resources to be able
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to go from there. So that's uh a little
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bit on how that income's changing and
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how we're adjusting to make that work
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and and underneath that is all our
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different expenses. And so as an
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organization uh we do have
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responsibilities accounting portions of
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it um and just technology. There's a lot
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of different devices that we do have
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with video equipment and when you move
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that equipment around you do have
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failures and you have things that don't
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work. And one of the things in keeping
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the quality up we need to make sure that
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equipment is sufficient to be able to
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function at the time. Um what does
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happen is the electronic side of it. So
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we do need video equipment and so
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keeping that video equipment and keeping
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that current that's uh that's a portion
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of that. So that's where we have a
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$1,000 budget in into that line and item
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itself. Uh we do insure ourselves as
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well. So we need to have that. So that's
[16:20]
that insurance. We have a local
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supporter that provides our insurance
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and it keeps us going um and make sure
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that we're satisfied in regards to that.
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We've been effective in the sense that
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reducing the cost of streaming uh when
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we're uh mobile and reducing that cost
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and we've done a lot better job with
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that instead of having cellar cellular
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access and paying a lot of fees under
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that. We've reduced that and done a
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really nice job overall. Some of that's
[16:46]
helped out with having the right kind of
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con connections whether it's here uh at
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the village hall or whether it's been in
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the school buildings themselves. So
[16:53]
therefore we don't have that same cost
[16:54]
as well. Um, you do see a budget line
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item for health benefits. As we move
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into a full-time employee, the cost uh
[17:02]
for health benefits and offering that as
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well is something that we need to incur
[17:06]
and to be ready to be able to support
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that overall. Um, so some of the other
[17:10]
things are just uh from a tax
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perspective um like I mentioned Paul,
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one of the issues that as we I've gotten
[17:17]
involved into it is that using older
[17:20]
equipment and trying to maintain that
[17:22]
and being reliable, it became a large
[17:24]
cost. And so um working with Paul,
[17:27]
working with Josiah, making sure that we
[17:28]
keep having run equipment updated on
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regular basis and likewise you see we
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have a lot of cost for software. We
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utilize a lot of free versions of what
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we can do. So we're entirely in a Google
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enterprise because we're a nonprofit
[17:42]
organization. We also get some reduced
[17:44]
cost of other software and other devices
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because we're a nonprofit organization.
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So we are doing what we can to reduce
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the cost. So, what we've uh we've looked
[17:53]
at, we're going to likely going to run
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short in that budget. Uh but that just
[17:57]
puts an effort. You know, sometimes you
[17:58]
have to put a goal out and have to go
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and reach out how we're going to get
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some of that additional uh we've been
[18:03]
very effective financially looking in
[18:05]
the years past in that making sure that
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we make our budget. And so, I think that
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says some some responsibility overall.
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So, just wanted to show you a little bit
[18:14]
about that and how uh what we've been
[18:16]
doing in regards to that overall. Turn
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it back to you.
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>> Thank you.
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Uh before I make some closing remarks,
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do you have any questions on the
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presentation
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numbers? Rick,
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>> well, I just wanted to say first of all,
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thank you so much for all the time that
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you spent here doing the work that you
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do uh in your retirement coming up. And
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again, thank you for the smooth
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transition that's going on uh with
[18:45]
Josiah. You can see it here. uh both of
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you kind of working to do this
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presentation and I appreciate you too
[18:52]
Mark coming in and giving us the numbers
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that at least help us understand a
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little bit better the position of the of
[18:58]
the organization.
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Um, I can tell you that last year at
[19:02]
this time I wasn't as familiar with
[19:04]
these numbers and certainly wasn't uh
[19:07]
was more concerned over the fact that
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continuing to fund the organization
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without uh a real feeling that there was
[19:16]
uh an outlook that we could look forward
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to as being something we can build on.
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Um, I think that's in seen in this
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current year. I think that there's been
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some some major changes as you brought
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up uh the ability to get more donations,
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uh start viewing your process in in a
[19:34]
way that's more of a nonprofit model,
[19:37]
making people more aware of that fact
[19:39]
that what a great uh you know uh asset
[19:42]
that we have here in uh the village. um
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the number of positions and the
[19:48]
restructuring that you've done to
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accommodate the fact that yes, you see a reduction in the amount of uh revenue
[19:56]
that you're able to get, but at the same
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time being able to find a way to
[20:00]
incorporate more grant writing and
[20:02]
fundraising with the folks that you've
[20:04]
been able to bring on board, which I
[20:06]
think is just right in line with where
[20:09]
we want to be going. Um, you've also
[20:12]
seen lots of increases because of
[20:14]
changes that you're doing with the
[20:16]
formats. I see you've talked about going
[20:18]
into the shortterm formatting that
[20:20]
everybody likes to see whether we like
[20:22]
it or not. Uh, the shortterm videos and
[20:26]
being able to uh uh chop them up in ways
[20:29]
that are more uh appetizing for uh folks
[20:32]
to be able to uh um consume and it's
[20:35]
shown in the numbers even already this
[20:37]
year. So, I do appreciate all that stuff
[20:39]
and I think the way that the revenue
[20:42]
that you've been getting from uh cable
[20:44]
franchising fees continuing to dwindle
[20:47]
because that just a format that is uh on
[20:52]
its way out. um that there are plenty of
[20:55]
other organizations, other villages,
[20:58]
municipalities that have to run these
[21:01]
kinds of uh uh programs and use uh
[21:05]
village revenue to be able to accomplish
[21:07]
these tasks. Um there's clearly a point
[21:10]
at which the village has to support um
[21:13]
this organization or we would be doing
[21:16]
this stuff at probably a substantially
[21:18]
higher cost. And I'm not sure what that
[21:21]
number is, but I do know that I believe
[21:24]
that it's worth investing in after
[21:26]
spending the last year on your board and
[21:29]
for what you've come back to the village
[21:31]
board to present to us tonight. So,
[21:34]
thank you. That's all I have
[21:37]
>> else
[21:39]
Tom.
[21:42]
>> I don't really want to talk about your
[21:43]
presentation.
[21:46]
Um, what I want to do is extend my
[21:48]
personal thanks to Paul. You know, I
[21:51]
would I've known Paul since he came to
[21:54]
work for OCA. Um, at the time that he
[21:57]
came to OCA, um, we tell the stories
[22:00]
about instances of of being off air for
[22:04]
weeks at a time and nobody noticing and
[22:06]
no emails or no messages or no phone
[22:09]
calls. Um, we tell stories about uh
[22:13]
broadcasting events for a year with no
[22:16]
audio because we couldn't figure out why
[22:18]
the system wasn't working and again
[22:20]
nobody complained or nobody had a
[22:22]
problem. Um, that doesn't happen now.
[22:25]
Um, if if we drop a live feed, Paul gets
[22:28]
a call and you know there's been a big
[22:31]
turnaround in the organization. It's
[22:33]
doing a lot of things and it's doing a
[22:34]
lot of things that are really good. And
[22:35]
I think that's from the effort and the
[22:38]
work and the contributions that Paul has
[22:39]
personally made to this. And I think we
[22:41]
owe him a big round of thanks and
[22:43]
appreciate everything he does. I know we
[22:45]
have a great future with Josiah. He's
[22:46]
going to do a great job. But we really
[22:48]
have to appreciate everything that Paul
[22:50]
has done.
[22:53]
» Yeah.
[22:58]
» Thank you, Tom.
[22:59]
Uh one question I had is if there's been
[23:02]
any consideration of using uh
[23:04]
subscription model. I saw some other uh
[23:08]
similar uh organizations have used that.
[23:11]
Have you is that something you've looked
[23:13]
at or
[23:15]
>> Yeah, we we've talked about the
[23:17]
possibility. Um it is a some something
[23:21]
we continue to look into and it might be
[23:24]
something we do down the road. Um my
[23:27]
personal philosophy is, you know, we're
[23:29]
public access, so we try as hard as we
[23:32]
can to make everything accessible, free.
[23:35]
>> Sure.
[23:35]
>> Um for everybody. So if that's where we
[23:38]
have to go, we have to go there. But um
[23:41]
yeah, that's kind of a a last resort.
[23:43]
Okay. [snorts] To a certain extent.
[23:45]
>> Thank you.
[23:47]
Any other questions?
[23:50]
>> Oh, thank you very much.
[23:51]
>> Thanks. I just quick wrap up on
[23:53]
something. Um, since Tom started it, I'm
[23:55]
going to uh and I wanted to thank uh Tom
[23:58]
Kerstofer for his leadership on our
[24:01]
board. Um,
[24:03]
he uh a long time ago wanted to
[24:05]
videotape something and didn't have the
[24:06]
equipment. So, he found out I think that
[24:09]
OCA had equipment that he could use and
[24:13]
there it began. Um, now we uh seem to
[24:16]
record things for him that he purchases
[24:18]
copies of so [laughter]
[24:20]
which is a good a good thing. Um I did want to point out I want to
[24:25]
read a little something personal for to
[24:27]
you. Um the last time I'll come before
[24:30]
this board to present a budget request
[24:33]
um for OCA Media. I'll be retiring in
[24:36]
December and I think I'm leaving on a
[24:38]
high note. This past January, the Oregon
[24:41]
Chamber of Commerce presented our small
[24:42]
staff with the community impact award.
[24:46]
And for 10 years, I've had the privilege
[24:47]
of leading OCA Media, and I'm proud of
[24:49]
what we've built together.
[24:51]
We've worked to shine more light on the
[24:53]
issues that matter to our village so re
[24:56]
residents can see how decisions get
[24:58]
made, hear directly from the people
[25:00]
making them, and feel part of their own
[25:02]
community. And I believe this is a this
[25:05]
has made our village stronger. I'm
[25:08]
especially proud of our young team
[25:10]
members. Our paid hands-on program has
[25:12]
given high school students place to
[25:14]
learn, make mistakes, and discover what
[25:17]
they're capable of. Many have many come
[25:20]
in and have never had having never held
[25:23]
a camera before and left with real
[25:26]
skills, real confidence, and sometimes a
[25:28]
career path. Watching them grow has been
[25:31]
one of my great joys.
[25:33]
Ben Baker, a 26 OS graduate and a OCA
[25:37]
scholarship recipient, OCA scholarship
[25:40]
recipient, directed our broadcast of the
[25:43]
recent homecoming football game, working
[25:45]
on his skills and calling the shots.
[25:47]
After we wrapped up, some of the crew
[25:50]
came over to my house and hung out
[25:51]
around the fire and had some pizza. And
[25:53]
Ben talked about his future dreams in
[25:55]
professional broadcasting.
[25:58]
Thought I was going to be a mechanic
[26:00]
to someday own his own production, his
[26:03]
own broadcasting truck, and produce
[26:05]
college sports. It's a pretty lofty goal
[26:07]
for a 18-year-old, and I hope it comes
[26:09]
true for him.
[26:11]
None of this happens alone. In 1984,
[26:14]
this organization came into existence to
[26:16]
provide public access to meetings like
[26:18]
this.
[26:19]
board has stood behind OCA year
[26:21]
after year, and I'm deeply great, deeply
[26:24]
grateful. I want to especially thank
[26:26]
you, our elected officials, and the OCA
[26:29]
media board of directors, for believing
[26:31]
in our award-winning work and in the
[26:33]
people who do it.
[26:35]
OCA is a little unusual in that we're an
[26:38]
independent nonprofit. uh community
[26:40]
support and community efforts supported
[26:43]
by this village and our ne neighbors
[26:45]
organizations
[26:46]
and employees employers who give it give
[26:49]
to it. I hope the leaders who come after
[26:52]
you will keep that partnership strong
[26:55]
and keep OCA a priority because what
[26:58]
happens here in this room in this
[27:00]
village belongs to everyone.
[27:04]
And I leave knowing OCA is in great
[27:06]
hands. Josiah brings energy, heart, and
[27:10]
a real commitment to this community. I
[27:12]
couldn't be more confident in where
[27:14]
he'll take it.
[27:17]
So, I'm not saying goodbye with worry.
[27:19]
I'm saying it with gratitude and with a
[27:21]
great deal of hope for what comes next.
[27:24]
Thank you. It's been the honor of my
[27:25]
career. Thanks. Thank you.
[27:27]
>> Thank you.
[27:29]
[applause]
[27:43]
Okay, we'll continue then with public
[27:45]
comment. This part of the agenda allows
[27:47]
me members of the public to provide
[27:48]
information to the village board,
[27:50]
including items both on and off the
[27:52]
agenda. 15 minutes will provided for
[27:54]
this item with a three minute maximum
[27:56]
per speaker. Otherwise, the agenda will
[27:58]
proceed as posted. We have one
[28:01]
registered uh uh speaker and and that is
[28:05]
John Blanchard.
[28:18]
Hello, this is John Blanchard. I live at
[28:21]
470 Lisa Court in Oregon. I realize that
[28:24]
this is probably not on the agenda
[28:26]
tonight or any discussion. I was at the
[28:29]
uh planning board meeting during their
[28:32]
discussion of this topic. I support the
[28:35]
40 plus members of the Oregon Fox
[28:38]
Boxboro Senior Golf League on the uh
[28:41]
future of Foxboro. Um, first of all, our group supports the request by
[28:47]
several residents to convert the areas
[28:50]
of Foxboro Golf Course currently shown
[28:52]
on the comprehensive plan um from an
[28:56]
amendment in 2023.
[28:59]
It shows up as lowcale neighborhood. Um,
[29:02]
it should go back to parks and open
[29:05]
space. Um, I think that would impact the
[29:08]
future of the golf course or the
[29:10]
development in that area. Um, I myself
[29:14]
learned how to play golf at Foxboro and
[29:16]
want to very much continue playing there
[29:18]
for many years.
[29:20]
We would love to see the course remain
[29:22]
as 18 holes. However, it appears the
[29:26]
continuation of an 18hole Foxboro is not
[29:30]
a financially viable option. There seems
[29:33]
to be too many large expensive repair
[29:36]
needed. I don't have any answers as to
[29:39]
um the financials on that or anything.
[29:42]
It's just what we have been informed to
[29:45]
um from Mike, the uh current manager of
[29:50]
the course.
[29:52]
[clears throat]
[29:53]
Our
[29:56]
um our group also supports the proposed
[29:59]
new plan to convert Foxboro to a 9-hole
[30:02]
golf course going forward if the 18-hole
[30:06]
cannot continue.
[30:09]
[clears throat]
[30:10]
The 9-hole course option has been
[30:12]
provided to us by Mike. Seems to be a
[30:14]
very reasonable option. The design would
[30:16]
provide a very usable course for many
[30:18]
years to come.
[30:20]
It is very important that there continue
[30:23]
to be an affordable golf available in
[30:25]
Oregon, which includes a course for the
[30:27]
high school teams to practice.
[30:29]
Furthermore, we want our league to be
[30:32]
able to continue playing golf on Tuesday
[30:34]
mornings in Oregon and not go outside
[30:37]
looking for a place to play.
[30:41]
Please consider supporting the nine-hole
[30:42]
course if we lose the 18-hole option.
[30:47]
It would continue to provide a great,
[30:50]
reasonably priced place to play, learn,
[30:52]
and play golf for all ages for many
[30:56]
years to come.
[30:58]
Um, that's pretty much all I have to say
[31:00]
about it. I just wanted to go on record.
[31:02]
If anybody has any questions that I can
[31:04]
answer, I'm happy.
[31:08]
>> Well, really can't comment back to your comments, John.
[31:13]
>> All right. Thank you.
[31:14]
>> Thank you.
[31:15]
Uh, anyone else for uh Derek Belo,
[31:23]
[clears throat]
[31:26]
» Derek Bo, Johnson Street in Oregon. I'm
[31:29]
here today to talk about some public
[31:31]
safety issues. I was in in attendance
[31:33]
for the joint fire EMS meeting. As an
[31:36]
outside observer, it seems as though the
[31:37]
village is struggling to address a
[31:39]
couple of public safety safety issues on
[31:41]
multiple fronts. Be it the fire EMS
[31:43]
building or the SRO contract. For the
[31:46]
fire EMS building, it seems like the
[31:48]
village has been dragging their feet.
[31:49]
From someone who's been watching, it
[31:50]
appears like you would rather just the
[31:52]
issue disappear. First, village
[31:54]
representatives on the fire EMS
[31:56]
commission wanted more data to address
[31:58]
the location. And once the data was
[32:00]
received and was being discussed by the
[32:02]
commission, one of the village reps at
[32:04]
the time implied in a meeting that
[32:05]
response time shouldn't factor into the
[32:07]
location. It's an interesting opinion
[32:09]
since response times can make the
[32:11]
difference between life and death.
[32:13]
You've had the data for months and it
[32:14]
all points to the downtown location
[32:16]
being best for public safety and for any
[32:18]
reasonable work to be done, using a
[32:20]
portion of old village hall would be
[32:21]
necessary.
[32:23]
The district has now been discussing
[32:24]
location and building options for the
[32:26]
last four years. And that's an
[32:27]
incredible injustice to the staff of the
[32:29]
fire EMS district who are working from
[32:30]
an environment that doesn't house proper
[32:33]
decontamination equipment and allows for
[32:35]
no future growth.
[32:38]
The village objecting to any reasonable
[32:40]
discussion about old village hall is
[32:41]
coming across as obstructive and
[32:43]
counterproductive. Which brings me to
[32:45]
the lapsed SRO contract. Much like the
[32:48]
fire district, the village board seems
[32:49]
to be taking an all or nothing approach
[32:50]
to negotiations with the school district
[32:52]
as well. I'd encourage you to change
[32:55]
your course on negotiation strategies
[32:56]
for both village partners. The tactics
[32:59]
cannot lead to counter or cannot lead to
[33:02]
productive future relationships with the
[33:04]
other government agencies. The board's
[33:06]
stances are coming across as combative
[33:07]
which seems to be making these
[33:09]
negotiations unproductive.
[33:12]
The SRO contract has been lapsed now for
[33:14]
over a month and the discussion of with
[33:16]
the fire district is in the same spot as
[33:17]
it was four years ago despite having
[33:20]
spent significant amounts amount of
[33:23]
funds to provide the village with the
[33:25]
data it requested. I'll just say that
[33:27]
consultant that that you all hired to do
[33:29]
that work that she did a tremendous job
[33:32]
and she compiled all sorts of
[33:34]
information. If you're considering
[33:37]
options for the down for the
[33:39]
[clears throat] old village hall, I
[33:40]
would question how you're making a uh
[33:43]
informed decision without any numbers
[33:45]
regarding what your fire district
[33:47]
currently needs. Thank you.
[33:49]
>> Thank you.
[33:51]
Anyone else for public comments?
[33:54]
No. Okay. Moving on. Uh item five,
[33:58]
approval of vouchers in the amount of
[34:01]
$774,99512.
[34:07]
Higgins and
[34:10]
Marks [clears throat]
[34:14]
questions. Tim had two questions on page
[34:19]
25.
[34:20]
Uh Oregon water and sewer. There were
[34:22]
four charges all less than a dollar. Why
[34:25]
are we processing tiny transactions?
[34:28]
It's got to be more expensive to process
[34:29]
that than it's worth.
[34:34]
These are for um services that no longer
[34:38]
exist and the people have moved out and
[34:41]
most of the time they are a finance
[34:44]
charge maybe that was allocated and then
[34:47]
during the process of selling the
[34:50]
property or whatever these small amounts
[34:53]
were not paid. So what this is an annual
[34:56]
thing that we do then the village
[34:59]
just pays off these small amounts. So we
[35:01]
have to transition money to those
[35:04]
accounts to
[35:04]
>> Oh, so it's just a credit to clear the
[35:07]
Okay.
[35:07]
>> Yeah, it's just a credit to clear these
[35:09]
small um
[35:12]
>> Okay.
[35:12]
>> residential accounts that we have.
[35:15]
>> Thank you. Then my second question was
[35:17]
on page 28.
[35:23]
Um what is a se sewer easement machine?
[35:29]
Like you knew I was going to ask.
[35:30]
>> [laughter]
[35:31]
>> I looked at the page and I'm like, I bet
[35:33]
I know.
[35:35]
It is um essentially a very big, very
[35:40]
expensive um hose extension for our
[35:43]
sewer vac truck. And what it does is
[35:45]
allow our staff to get in and jet out
[35:48]
and clean sewer lines that are back away
[35:52]
from the road where they can't safely
[35:53]
get the vac truck. Um and a really good
[35:58]
example being um the line that runs from
[36:01]
Oak Hill to the village. Um it, you
[36:05]
know, prevents potential damage to uh
[36:08]
equipment um and dangerous to staff and
[36:11]
it just keeps those lines clean such
[36:13]
that we don't have a very expensive
[36:15]
sewer backup out there.
[36:16]
>> Cool. Thank you.
[36:19]
>> Good.
[36:20]
>> Um I have two. One of them was this
[36:23]
sewer easement machine. So, I'm glad to
[36:25]
know that my radar is honed in on Tim's.
[36:28]
My question though with that is just a
[36:30]
secondary question. Is this an expense
[36:32]
we anticipated? This isn't like an
[36:35]
emergency. We all of a sudden had to buy
[36:38]
this. We've anticipated this cost.
[36:41]
>> Correct. This was in the CIP for the
[36:42]
last couple of years.
[36:43]
>> Fantastic. I apologize for overlooking.
[36:46]
>> It's all good.
[36:46]
>> That one line item. Um, my second
[36:49]
question is on that same page. This is
[36:51]
probably for chief 14815.
[36:54]
The PD camera project.
[37:02]
» Sorry. What page?
[37:03]
>> Uh it's right. Uh
[37:05]
>> 28 third line down.
[37:08]
>> It's with the Associated Technical
[37:10]
Services if that you
[37:14]
>> Yes. If I recall correctly, this was
[37:16]
part of RCIP as well, but this was to um
[37:20]
redo all of our computers. Many of them
[37:22]
were failing, just old, outdated.
[37:24]
>> Got it. Okay. So, it's more technical.
[37:26]
This is not the body cam.
[37:28]
>> No.
[37:28]
>> Got it. Okay.
[37:31]
>> Okay.
[37:32]
Rick.
[37:34]
>> Um uh I guess uh on page 24 uh the you
[37:38]
have the bike pedestrian study and the
[37:40]
bike pedestrian plan. I'm sure that's
[37:42]
part of the CIP. Could you remind me is
[37:45]
we're paying for it now. When do we
[37:46]
expect to see like the outcome of that?
[37:50]
>> Do we know?
[37:51]
>> Yep. I can explain a little bit. So,
[37:53]
this is a uh grant funded project. It's
[37:56]
an 8020 split. So, actually quarterly I submit to the DOT for reimbursement
[38:01]
for
[38:03]
um their 80% that they are basically the
[38:07]
grant is covering. Um this is basically
[38:10]
just started. We're kind of in the
[38:12]
middle of the engagement phase, about to
[38:14]
start working on some focus group
[38:16]
interviews. We've already did a public
[38:18]
kind of kickoff workshop in the middle
[38:19]
of September and have a survey and map
[38:22]
online. So, please fill it out and share
[38:24]
with your friends. Um, this will get
[38:27]
ultimately probably spring will be when
[38:29]
we see, you know, adoption, but you'll
[38:31]
start to see drafts probably um this
[38:33]
winter of that plan.
[38:36]
I noticed this specifically because uh
[38:39]
I'm thinking about a week without
[38:41]
vehicle or driving or whatever. Uh and
[38:44]
in in that trying to ride a bike and
[38:47]
trying to get back and forth and
[38:48]
thinking about going there and
[38:50]
alternative uh transportation this week
[38:52]
has stunk. It's not great. And I would
[38:56]
like to do better in our community and
[38:58]
I'm hopeful that this will help address
[39:01]
some of those issues. It would be nice
[39:02]
to have an ability to get a bus into
[39:06]
Madison or a park and ride or many other
[39:09]
ways that we might be able to improve
[39:11]
transportation through our communities.
[39:14]
It is definitely we have a community
[39:16]
that I find difficult to uh transport
[39:20]
across. But with that, I'd also like to
[39:22]
say I am on another committee for the
[39:25]
county [snorts] that is the ADRC aging
[39:28]
disability and rehabilitation committee.
[39:30]
And one of the focuses on that, just as
[39:33]
a reminder for folks, is that they do
[39:36]
try to find ways, one of their goals is
[39:38]
to get you to where you need to go,
[39:40]
especially if you are under some
[39:43]
circumstance that's temporary that
[39:45]
doesn't allow you to be able to get
[39:47]
there under your normal circumstance.
[39:48]
And it's not necessarily age or
[39:52]
financially impacting. We pay a lot of
[39:54]
taxes in Dayne County, and this is a lot
[39:56]
of the programs that we're able to take
[39:58]
advantage of. So, just a reminder for
[40:00]
folks especially in our village that do
[40:03]
see significant uh difficulties in being
[40:06]
able to get to uh some a doctor's
[40:10]
appointment while you're recovering from
[40:12]
an injury or something. Thank you.
[40:16]
Additional questions?
[40:19]
No. This is a roll call vote. We have a
[40:22]
motion by Hagen, second by Marks.
[40:25]
>> McDaniel. Yes. Vancampen.
[40:27]
>> Yes.
[40:27]
>> Marks. Yes.
[40:28]
>> Higgins.
[40:29]
>> Yes.
[40:30]
>> Kirk Dorfford.
[40:30]
>> Yes.
[40:32]
>> That's it.
[40:33]
>> Thank you. [snorts]
[40:35]
Uh item six, consent agenda, staff, uh
[40:38]
items a 6A through 6F. Staff
[40:42]
recommendation motion to approve.
[40:44]
Christopher Higgins.
[40:50]
Questions? Lynn and then Tim.
[40:54]
I just have a question on 6F, the KL
[40:58]
engineering. I think that's 6F. Yeah.
[41:01]
>> Yep.
[41:01]
>> Thank you. Um, can you give us an update
[41:05]
on this project?
[41:07]
How how are we doing?
[41:10]
[clears throat and laughter]
[41:11]
>> Well, it's open, so that's probably an
[41:14]
improvement to the last time we were
[41:16]
talking. Um,
[41:19]
so we are at the moment largely waiting
[41:22]
on the city of Madison traffic
[41:24]
engineering group. So they're the ones
[41:26]
that program our traffic signals for us
[41:28]
as they do for a lot of different
[41:30]
municipalities uh as well as their own
[41:32]
city which means of course they have
[41:34]
quite a backlog. They're very busy. Uh
[41:36]
they're busy because they're the best at
[41:37]
what they do and so um so that's why we work with them. They also are very
[41:43]
competitively priced. They did indicate
[41:47]
a couple of weeks ago that this was
[41:49]
about the time frame they'd be looking
[41:51]
at testing the cabinet. Um they are also
[41:55]
kind of at the mercy of Alliant Energy
[41:58]
who is needing to put in an additional
[42:01]
electrical service out here to actually
[42:04]
run all of these lights. So um things
[42:08]
are going well. largely we are just
[42:11]
waiting on two outside agencies that
[42:13]
kind of run on their own schedules um
[42:16]
that don't always even match each others
[42:19]
uh not not to say anything about ours to
[42:22]
get uh get up and moving. Um
[42:27]
there is a lot less construction
[42:30]
inspection involved in those two items.
[42:33]
Obviously Alliant will do their own. Um,
[42:35]
and the city of Madison really doesn't
[42:37]
need somebody hovering over their
[42:39]
shoulder because they're not actually
[42:40]
excavating. Um, so really this amendment
[42:45]
is to cover
[42:47]
time that was already kind of incurred
[42:49]
as a cost because of those delays that
[42:53]
we are going to leverage liquidated
[42:55]
damages for. Okay. Have we wrapped has
[42:59]
the contractor essentially wrapped their
[43:01]
portion of things or are we still
[43:05]
Um, are they still paying that fee?
[43:09]
>> They are still paying that fee. Uh, the
[43:12]
kind of major items yet to be done are
[43:16]
the fencing. So, they're obviously big
[43:21]
drops on those retaining walls. Um, we
[43:24]
don't want
[43:25]
>> people of any age getting close to them
[43:27]
and going off the edge. So, they do have
[43:29]
to install fencing out there. Okay.
[43:31]
That's kind of the major thing that
[43:33]
remains as well as just making sure that
[43:36]
the site looks good at the very end of
[43:38]
everybody's work. Uh we do have a
[43:40]
walkthrough with them tomorrow. Okay.
[43:42]
>> To check in on how things are going and
[43:45]
make sure that they're satisfied and
[43:46]
that they can give us an update on the
[43:48]
schedule.
[43:48]
>> Okay, great. Thank you.
[43:51]
>> Okay, Rick.
[43:53]
>> Um item 6C, um the approval of the wage
[43:58]
adjustment for the custodian. Um, I
[44:01]
would like to see if it'd be possible to
[44:03]
I hope it doesn't need an amendment to
[44:05]
apply retroactively back to July when
[44:08]
the decision was made to hire somebody
[44:11]
at a higher pay range if that's
[44:14]
possible. Thank you.
[44:17]
Okay.
[44:20]
Do you need an amendment?
[44:23]
>> Yeah.
[44:24]
Okay. So, we have a motion. Uh so
[44:27]
that would be an amendment by Rick.
[44:31]
Um I will second that. So we will now
[44:33]
vote on the amendment unless there are
[44:35]
questions.
[44:37]
>> Okay. So
[44:40]
>> let's get to Can we make that amendment
[44:43]
to the beginning of the pay period of
[44:46]
when whenever that date is that we will
[44:48]
decide?
[44:49]
>> Yes. Thank you.
[44:50]
>> Yes. Just so we're all clear just for
[44:53]
administrative
[44:54]
>> sanity.
[44:56]
Thank you.
[44:57]
>> Okay. So, Tim,
[44:59]
>> I had a question just on a different
[45:00]
issue though on the
[45:01]
>> Well, you want to do the amendment
[45:03]
first?
[45:03]
>> Let's clean this amendment up first.
[45:05]
Yes. Thank you.
[45:06]
>> So, uh let's vote on the amendment.
[45:10]
Motion by Marks, second by uh the chair.
[45:13]
All those in favor indicate by saying I.
[45:15]
>> I.
[45:15]
>> Those polls say no. Motion carries.
[45:18]
Okay. Timmy,
[45:19]
>> I just had a question about B. Is there
[45:21]
a cost to this program?
[45:24]
>> No. Okay.
[45:26]
>> Okay. All right. So, returning to the
[45:28]
main motion. Further discussion hearing
[45:32]
none. Motion by Kurt Der, second by
[45:34]
Higgins. All those in favor indicate by
[45:36]
saying I.
[45:36]
>> I.
[45:37]
>> Those opposed. Motion carries. [snorts]
[45:39]
Thank you. Item seven, boards of
[45:42]
committees. Items for discussion and our
[45:44]
possible action. A public works and
[45:47]
utilities committee. One, amendment to
[45:49]
task order number 20 23-03
[45:53]
with Rukert Mili for additional
[45:55]
engineering services for the East
[45:57]
Lincoln reconstruction project
[46:00]
increasing
[46:02]
the contract amount by $80,20.50
[46:06]
to revise not to exceed total of
[46:09]
$223,330.
[46:13]
[sighs]
[46:14]
uh committee and staff recommendation.
[46:17]
Motion to approve Higgins and Marks
[46:22]
questions on this.
[46:27]
Okay. Motion by second by Marks. All
[46:29]
those in favor indicate by saying I. I.
[46:32]
>> Those oppos say no.
[46:33]
>> Motion carries. Item eight, unfinished
[46:35]
business. None. Item nine, new business.
[46:38]
Items for discussion and or possible
[46:40]
action. a presentation review of the
[46:43]
draft 2027 village budget.
[46:50]
» All right, Rich is going to get me set
[46:53]
up here.
[46:54]
>> Okay.
[46:55]
>> Uh I could probably talk for
[46:59]
three or four hours straight on this. So
[47:01]
I'm I'm gonna
[47:02]
>> Is that a warning?
[47:03]
>> I'm going to contain myself. Um
[47:05]
>> no breaks.
[47:06]
>> Yeah. Yeah. Nobody can leave. Um, so I'm
[47:10]
going to try to contain myself and I'm
[47:13]
going to try to move briskly. Um, but if
[47:16]
there's any questions or if there's any
[47:20]
area where you want me to talk more,
[47:23]
just interrupt me. I want this to be
[47:26]
helpful for you. Um, so just guide me
[47:29]
appropriately.
[47:31]
Um,
[47:32]
so let's talk the 2027 budget. So you
[47:36]
have the full budget in front of you.
[47:38]
So, it is uh 300 pages of budgets and uh
[47:42]
supporting information uh that you
[47:44]
certainly have time to read through and
[47:47]
digest and we'll come back and talk some
[47:49]
more in some future meetings. But for
[47:52]
where we are right now, we've we've
[47:54]
fully gotten it together. Um there are a
[47:57]
few remaining items at this point of the
[47:59]
year that we're still waiting on. We're
[48:01]
always waiting on employee benefit open
[48:02]
enrollment that can have an impact on
[48:05]
the budget that goes through October.
[48:07]
We're talking about the SRO agreement
[48:09]
that is a revenue source uh that right
[48:12]
now we don't have in the draft budget so
[48:14]
we're not accounting for that uh to be
[48:17]
conservative but hopefully we will. Um
[48:20]
and then we have the police union
[48:22]
contract negotiation going on which will
[48:24]
also be a factor again. Hopefully that
[48:26]
will be something that gets addressed
[48:27]
before the budget is completed. Right
[48:29]
now our draft operating budget has a
[48:32]
deficit of about $49,000.
[48:35]
Um,
[48:37]
in my world that is substantively
[48:39]
balanced. I think we can we can find an
[48:42]
amount in a $10 million budget of
[48:45]
$49,000 to solve. Um, but we have some
[48:49]
of these other factors that are at play
[48:51]
right now. Um, but all things
[48:53]
considered, I have a glass half full
[48:56]
mentality that we will figure that out.
[49:01]
Um, other than that, just quality
[49:03]
control right now and just
[49:04]
double-checking and triple-checking
[49:06]
everything. We will have several more
[49:08]
meetings. The next meeting at the 19th,
[49:10]
the 2nd, and then the 16th, we have the
[49:12]
public hearing and village board
[49:15]
approval. And then we continue on to the
[49:18]
tax collection process at the end of the
[49:20]
year.
[49:22]
And that is perfect segue to where I
[49:24]
like to start with budget presentations,
[49:27]
which is the property tax. Um it is the
[49:31]
biggest source of revenue that we have
[49:33]
as a local government. It covers uh
[49:36]
typically 60 to 70% of the revenue that
[49:39]
we use to uh pay for our services. And
[49:42]
that's true of all local governments in
[49:44]
Wisconsin. In fact, some might be even
[49:46]
80 or 90% supported by property tax. Uh
[49:49]
there just really isn't a comparable
[49:51]
revenue alternative to the property tax
[49:54]
in Wisconsin. Uh we don't have the
[49:56]
ability to charge sales tax. we don't
[49:58]
have the ability to charge income tax. A
[50:01]
lot of other revenue sources are uh
[50:03]
restricted by state law uh or they just
[50:07]
don't provide the sort of reliable
[50:10]
unrestricted revenue that property tax
[50:13]
provides at a comparable scale. Uh and
[50:17]
of course if you've been around local
[50:19]
government you will know that uh this
[50:22]
source of revenue is also highly
[50:24]
restricted uh by state law and it has
[50:27]
been done so for uh in the current
[50:29]
dynamic for the last 20 years. Uh so we
[50:33]
have
[50:34]
uh what's known as property tax levy
[50:36]
limits in Wisconsin.
[50:39]
And uh what that does and I'll just read
[50:42]
it from my narrative here. The levy
[50:44]
limit law restricts how much the village
[50:47]
may increase its total property tax levy
[50:49]
from one year to the next. The village
[50:51]
must follow a statutory calculation when
[50:54]
establishing its levy. Subject to
[50:56]
specific adjustments and exceptions, the
[50:58]
baseline allowable increase in the levy
[51:00]
is primarily tied to a factor referred
[51:02]
to as net new construction.
[51:05]
And when municipal employees and
[51:07]
municipal consultants use that term kind
[51:10]
of drives me crazy because not all
[51:13]
elected officials in the public have any
[51:15]
clue what net new construction actually
[51:17]
means. Um so just to
[51:22]
expound on that point. So what happens
[51:25]
with our property taxes is the village
[51:27]
or any local government in Wisconsin
[51:29]
generally gains additional ongoing
[51:32]
property tax levy capacity when new
[51:35]
taxable value is added to the community
[51:38]
through construction.
[51:40]
So we can't tie our property taxes to
[51:43]
inflation. They are not tied to
[51:46]
appreciation in the value of existing
[51:48]
property values. uh we can't raise more
[51:52]
levy because of those factors. It's all
[51:54]
tied to the creation of new construction
[51:58]
value.
[51:59]
Uh and the net part of that is if you
[52:03]
happen to have some demolition of value
[52:05]
in your community. So if you have a
[52:08]
couple houses demolished or something is
[52:10]
demolished, you have to remove that from
[52:13]
your uh calculation of the net new
[52:16]
construction and then that impacts on
[52:18]
how much uh property taxes you can
[52:20]
raise. So absent uh any adjustment or uh
[52:25]
statutory adjustment or voter approval
[52:27]
through referendum, the village can't
[52:30]
increase its base property tax levy
[52:32]
however you want, however the village
[52:34]
wants. um it's tied to the statutory
[52:37]
calculation. And so this table right
[52:38]
here shows that net new construction
[52:42]
value. So in 2027 we had $67.7 million
[52:47]
of net new construction value and then
[52:50]
you uh divide that by your total value
[52:53]
of your community which was 2.1 billion
[52:56]
and then you get that 3.18%.
[53:00]
And I will show you in a moment how that
[53:03]
then dovtales and factors into how you
[53:06]
calculate your property taxes. So
[53:08]
there's a couple things about property
[53:10]
taxes that I always like to point out to
[53:13]
uh policy makers, elect officials. One
[53:16]
is again the inflation part of this
[53:19]
which is we can't raise our levy based
[53:21]
on inflation. Um and that becomes
[53:25]
important when you are in high inflation
[53:27]
environment. And so this uh table here
[53:32]
uh shows how this has impacted on the
[53:35]
village and of course a lot of local
[53:36]
governments over the last few years. Uh
[53:39]
when you have inflation that is running
[53:41]
7% 6 and a half%
[53:44]
uh and your net new construction percent
[53:46]
allows you to raise your primary revenue
[53:48]
source by threes or twos and in some
[53:51]
communities less than 1%.
[53:55]
uh it's really hard to even stand still,
[53:58]
right? Your cost for your your services,
[54:00]
your goods, your employees continues to
[54:03]
rise and there's pressure on those
[54:04]
things rising. Uh and if you if your
[54:07]
primary revenue revenue source is not
[54:09]
rising with that uh that becomes a
[54:11]
problem.
[54:15]
The other thing uh with this is uh
[54:20]
community growth, right? And so
[54:22]
obviously with your re with the main
[54:25]
revenue source being property taxes tied
[54:27]
to new construction value that creates
[54:30]
pressure to create growth in your in
[54:32]
your community. But obviously growth
[54:35]
also creates some challenges because it
[54:37]
increases uh the number of people, the
[54:40]
number of facilities, the number of
[54:42]
infrastructure that the community must
[54:44]
serve. Uh so there is sort of uh two
[54:48]
sides of the coin under this
[54:49]
environment. One is if you're not
[54:52]
growing as a community, your primary
[54:54]
revenue source is not growing at all
[54:56]
either. But inflation of course creates
[55:00]
uh costs for fuel and utilities and
[55:03]
employee compensation and benefits that
[55:05]
keep going up and there's no way to
[55:08]
continue to support that uh at least as
[55:11]
it currently exists when your revenue
[55:13]
source is not moving at all. On the
[55:16]
other side of that coin is your
[55:18]
community is growing and so now you
[55:20]
actually have some growth in your
[55:21]
primary revenue source. Uh but then it
[55:24]
creates additional um liabilities,
[55:27]
right? You have more infrastructure,
[55:29]
there's more people going to your
[55:30]
library. There's more people going to
[55:32]
your senior center. There's more people
[55:33]
at elections. And so you in order to
[55:36]
keep your services going at the same way
[55:38]
that they were uh you have to sort of
[55:40]
expand with the community. And so some
[55:45]
people will answer the question of well
[55:47]
we need to grow a lot more some people
[55:48]
will say we don't need to grow at all
[55:50]
and that will solve it and the answer is
[55:52]
probably somewhere in the middle in that
[55:54]
u both sides present problems and
[55:56]
tradeoffs um and and positives and and
[56:00]
different uh consequences.
[56:03]
[clears throat]
[56:04]
Another thing on property taxes that I
[56:07]
like to mention every year is this
[56:08]
concept of taxing to the max. Uh and
[56:12]
just um
[56:15]
in a nutshell, uh this value back in
[56:20]
this table right here, this adjusted
[56:22]
property tax levy that I call a base
[56:24]
levy, you get to keep that levy every
[56:28]
year. So this amount of money carries
[56:30]
forward every year and it adjusts
[56:32]
upwards based on new construction value
[56:35]
and you can keep carrying that forward.
[56:36]
So, it's called a base levy and you can
[56:39]
use that for your operating expenses.
[56:43]
And there might be a scenario where, for
[56:46]
example, the village board wants to seek
[56:50]
property tax relief. Uh, and so you
[56:53]
might want you might think about levying
[56:55]
less than the full amount allowed in the
[56:58]
particular year. And so you would reduce
[57:01]
the le village levy relative to what it
[57:03]
otherwise could have been otherwise known as taxing to the max. Uh
[57:09]
but by lowering the village's recurring
[57:11]
levy base, it constrains the revenues
[57:14]
available in subsequent budgets. So if
[57:17]
you take it out of your base, it's
[57:19]
pretty much gone. You can't come back
[57:21]
another year in the future and say,
[57:23]
"Hey, we we actually need that money um
[57:26]
for something that came up." It's pretty
[57:28]
much gone. So, it's like a use it or
[57:30]
lose it system. There's some there's
[57:32]
some very limited ways that you can
[57:35]
extract that money back in the couple of
[57:37]
years after it happened, but it's capped
[57:40]
and it's limited and it's conditional
[57:42]
and then eventually it falls completely
[57:44]
out. So, folks in your position as
[57:47]
elected officials, once you start to
[57:49]
understand that, you realize
[57:52]
um by lowering your taxes, you are
[57:55]
constraining your future flexibility. Uh
[57:57]
and so a lot of uh communities end up
[58:01]
taking the policy position of we have to
[58:04]
tax to the max because that's the
[58:06]
environment that we're in.
[58:09]
Uh and then the last thing I would say
[58:11]
on property taxes in general uh from a
[58:14]
policym perspective is these things have
[58:17]
been in place for 20 years now. Um
[58:21]
there's sort of different eras and I've
[58:24]
worked through almost all of this era of
[58:26]
levy limits. Um in the first maybe 5 to
[58:30]
10 years after levy limits went into
[58:32]
place
[58:34]
um communities uh sharpened their
[58:37]
pencils, tightened their belt, got
[58:39]
honest, took the fluff out. I think
[58:41]
that's what the levy limit law was
[58:43]
probably intended to do at the time was
[58:45]
just to keep local governments honest.
[58:47]
And so a lot of local governments did
[58:50]
that and that's when around the time
[58:51]
that I started working in local
[58:53]
government and that was sort of the
[58:55]
mentality of we were still trying to
[58:58]
find ways in our budgets that we could
[59:01]
save money and that was done through
[59:03]
contracting things out um combining
[59:06]
positions um all sorts of things. And
[59:10]
then sometime around like 10 years ago,
[59:12]
like 2015,
[59:14]
um those things started to run out uh
[59:17]
for most communities, sort of the
[59:19]
lowhanging fruit. And so now communities
[59:22]
started thinking about revenue options.
[59:25]
And a great example of that is the wheel
[59:27]
tax, which has been allowed since the
[59:30]
1970s, but as recently as 15 years ago,
[59:35]
there was only like single digits of
[59:36]
communities that were using that thing.
[59:39]
Now there's over 70 communities and
[59:41]
counties that are using the wheel tax.
[59:43]
So that was sort of what happened 10
[59:46]
years ago was communities had cut things
[59:49]
and now they were trying to find more
[59:50]
revenue and there was this cat cat-and-
[59:52]
mouse game in the 2010s between
[59:54]
municipal uh governments and state
[59:57]
legislature where municipal governments
[59:59]
would find new revenue source and then
[1:00:01]
the state legislature would create a law
[1:00:03]
that would basically remove it or cap it
[1:00:05]
or something to that effect. And then
[1:00:09]
about just before the 2020 2018 2019
[1:00:14]
communities started moving towards the
[1:00:16]
referendum. So they had cut things, they
[1:00:19]
had found other revenue sources and
[1:00:21]
those things ran out. And so the last
[1:00:23]
place to go was either cut your services
[1:00:26]
or go to referendum. So right at at
[1:00:28]
2018, you started to see referendums
[1:00:32]
spike quite a bit. There before that
[1:00:34]
time, there was rarely ever a municipal
[1:00:36]
referendum. Now they're very common.
[1:00:38]
There's do there's been dozens and
[1:00:40]
dozens in the last few years including
[1:00:41]
ours.
[1:00:43]
Um, and so that's where communities have
[1:00:45]
gotten to now. And that's been sort of
[1:00:47]
the era that we're living in now, which
[1:00:49]
is we're going to be in this cycle of
[1:00:51]
referendums or we're going to have to
[1:00:54]
start reducing our services or trying to
[1:00:58]
find those last pieces of other revenue
[1:01:01]
sources that um could make up uh some
[1:01:05]
substantial amount of revenue for us.
[1:01:09]
So [snorts]
[1:01:11]
all that aside, so what does it look
[1:01:14]
like when we actually have to do the
[1:01:16]
worksheet for the levy limit? So this
[1:01:19]
worksheet, and I've I've shown this in
[1:01:21]
the budget uh presentation for the last
[1:01:23]
couple of years. Uh this is the
[1:01:25]
worksheet that Department of Revenue
[1:01:26]
puts out. Every community and county in
[1:01:29]
Wisconsin has to fill out this levy
[1:01:30]
limit worksheet and submit it in
[1:01:32]
December.
[1:01:34]
And this calculates how much property
[1:01:36]
taxes you can get as a community. And
[1:01:38]
this first section here is entirely
[1:01:41]
filled out by the department of revenue.
[1:01:43]
Uh or it's a number that gets populated
[1:01:46]
by something else later in the
[1:01:48]
spreadsheet.
[1:01:50]
So in order to calculate your base levy,
[1:01:53]
you start with what you levied last
[1:01:55]
year. So that's the top number.
[1:01:59]
Then you kind of back out of some
[1:02:01]
things. So you start to exclude some
[1:02:04]
things you can't carry forward into the
[1:02:06]
next year. So that would be expenses
[1:02:09]
related to emergency, nothing for us.
[1:02:12]
Expenses for general obligation debt,
[1:02:15]
and we've talked about this where you
[1:02:16]
can exclude your debt service payments
[1:02:18]
and you can take more levy for that. So
[1:02:20]
we levied 3.8 million for debt service
[1:02:23]
last year. So you back that out. We
[1:02:25]
can't take that forward into the next
[1:02:27]
year. So, what you end up with is this
[1:02:29]
base levy of 6.3 million. That's your
[1:02:32]
operating levy.
[1:02:35]
Then you apply your net new
[1:02:37]
construction, which is that 3.18%
[1:02:40]
that I showed earlier. And that gets
[1:02:42]
applied to this number. And then you
[1:02:44]
have your number, your base levy for the
[1:02:47]
year moving forward. And then they do a
[1:02:49]
little thing, some funky stuff with some
[1:02:51]
personal property. Um, so they got to
[1:02:53]
take a little bit more money away from
[1:02:55]
you. Um, and then at the end of it, you
[1:02:59]
add your adjustments back in for the
[1:03:01]
year. It's 4.2 million we have. I'll
[1:03:04]
show that in a second. And there's your
[1:03:06]
levy for your property taxes.
[1:03:10]
The rest of the worksheet is these two
[1:03:13]
sections. Section B and C are these
[1:03:15]
carry forwards. So, if you had used some
[1:03:17]
unused levy, there is some conditions
[1:03:20]
under which you can bring it back. But
[1:03:23]
again, those are conditional. they are
[1:03:26]
more limited. You can't bring back all
[1:03:27]
of what you could have had in the year
[1:03:29]
that you could have had it. Um, so
[1:03:33]
there's some look backs there. We have
[1:03:35]
obviously texted to the max. So there's
[1:03:37]
no nothing going on in these sections.
[1:03:40]
And then you have your adjustments uh in
[1:03:43]
your worksheet. So uh things that you
[1:03:45]
can do to modify your otherwise
[1:03:48]
allowable levy.
[1:03:51]
Most of these we are irrelevant to most
[1:03:54]
communities. Um there's some things on
[1:03:56]
some debt service prior to 2005. We
[1:03:59]
don't have any debt service left from
[1:04:01]
that time. The big one here on E is debt
[1:04:04]
service for uh our normal debt service
[1:04:08]
which is 4.1 million. So we add that
[1:04:10]
back in. Um
[1:04:14]
increase uh attributable to a
[1:04:16]
referendum.
[1:04:17]
uh again in uh increase related to an
[1:04:20]
emergency there's some increases or
[1:04:22]
decreases so there's some adjustments
[1:04:24]
that can happen downwards
[1:04:26]
um related to some intergovernmental
[1:04:28]
things and we have our joint fire and
[1:04:31]
EMS district which allows us to take a
[1:04:33]
little bit more there
[1:04:36]
um there's an adjustment for annexation
[1:04:38]
uh we had a very tiny annexation this
[1:04:41]
year which would allow us $4 I don't
[1:04:45]
know if we'll actually submit that or
[1:04:47]
Um there's some more on debt service
[1:04:51]
that's not applying to us at all. This
[1:04:55]
uh line Q is probably going to be
[1:04:57]
important to us next year potentially if
[1:05:00]
we end up moving forward with a storm
[1:05:02]
water utility. So this is part of that
[1:05:05]
cat and mouse game that happened last
[1:05:07]
decade with the state legislature and
[1:05:09]
municipal governments. uh this is you
[1:05:12]
have to take a reduction to your
[1:05:14]
property taxes if you adopt a fee or fee
[1:05:18]
increase for particular services that
[1:05:20]
were partly or wholly funded by levy in
[1:05:22]
2013.
[1:05:24]
So uh one of those covered services is
[1:05:27]
storm water management. So if you create
[1:05:29]
a storm water utility and now you use
[1:05:32]
fees to pay for that service you have to
[1:05:35]
take a reduction on your property taxes.
[1:05:38]
So you cannot just sort of automatically
[1:05:40]
divvy that up um for having a new source
[1:05:44]
of revenue.
[1:05:46]
And then there's uh this S1 is an
[1:05:50]
increase in levy for occupancy permits
[1:05:51]
issued in 2025 for qualifying new single
[1:05:54]
family residential dwelling units.
[1:05:56]
There's a lot of uh conditions behind
[1:05:58]
the scenes on that one. I do think we
[1:06:01]
are qualified to get about $5,000 for
[1:06:04]
that this year. So there's your total
[1:06:06]
adjustments, 4.2 2 million that gets
[1:06:10]
plugged back up into here and there's
[1:06:13]
your levy. So the base levy is that 6.5
[1:06:18]
at four is mostly debt service and some
[1:06:20]
things that we can carry forward to
[1:06:23]
increase our base for the following
[1:06:25]
year. Uh and that's settles out your
[1:06:28]
property taxes. That's how that all
[1:06:31]
comes together.
[1:06:34]
Now, how that all works um in terms of
[1:06:38]
the actual uh impact on properties
[1:06:41]
themselves.
[1:06:43]
So, moving ahead to
[1:06:46]
uh what that levy looks like, breaking
[1:06:49]
it down a little bit further. Uh so, the
[1:06:51]
10.7 million is here compared to last
[1:06:55]
year. Uh the general fund, library
[1:06:58]
operating fund, that's considered what I
[1:07:00]
would consider just the villages
[1:07:02]
operating. when we talk about operating
[1:07:04]
those are the two funds
[1:07:06]
um you can see the increase there you
[1:07:08]
can see the increase uh to debt service
[1:07:10]
on the general and then the tax
[1:07:12]
increment district number three side uh
[1:07:15]
and that's how that all shakes out so
[1:07:17]
about 3.5%
[1:07:20]
increase from last year
[1:07:23]
have a couple things in here on sort of
[1:07:26]
the makeup of that uh obviously debt
[1:07:28]
service is a big factor we've talked
[1:07:30]
about that quite a bit debt service has
[1:07:32]
gone up quite a bit for the village.
[1:07:34]
We've done quite a bit of investment in
[1:07:36]
our public facilities and other
[1:07:38]
infrastructure over the last 10 years or
[1:07:40]
so. And so you can see the rise in levy
[1:07:43]
for that. Um it's been it's been pretty
[1:07:46]
significant although I think as a
[1:07:47]
percentage it's uh starting to sort of
[1:07:50]
ease up and that's when we talk about
[1:07:51]
sort of those stepped increases to uh
[1:07:54]
debt service moving forward.
[1:07:57]
The other piece is the joint fire and
[1:07:59]
EMS levy limit exception. have an
[1:08:01]
explanation there. Um, we saw some
[1:08:04]
information on that last week at the
[1:08:05]
joint meeting. Uh, in short, we're able
[1:08:08]
to get a little bit more levy because
[1:08:09]
we're part of a joint district and
[1:08:11]
because we met some standards that are
[1:08:13]
in state law, we get a little bit more
[1:08:15]
levy that we can take for that. Uh, have
[1:08:19]
some information on the
[1:08:22]
calculation error that occurred with the
[1:08:24]
department of revenue two years ago.
[1:08:26]
That is now resolved. Um, we had some
[1:08:29]
levy that was in our levy that was not
[1:08:32]
supposed to be there, but was told that
[1:08:35]
it could be there by the Department of
[1:08:36]
Revenue. And two years later, we have
[1:08:39]
our very own special state legislative
[1:08:41]
law that was passed just for us and the
[1:08:45]
towns of Oregon and Rutland to fix that.
[1:08:48]
So, um, yeah, we're in state law forever
[1:08:51]
now, hopefully. Um, so it's interesting.
[1:08:56]
We have something that's probably the
[1:08:58]
three of our communities probably have
[1:09:00]
something that's I would think unique
[1:09:03]
almost entirely to our three communities
[1:09:04]
in Wisconsin. I'm sure there might be
[1:09:06]
some other ones out there, but uh when
[1:09:09]
you go back and look at the levy limit
[1:09:10]
worksheet because of this error, this
[1:09:13]
number is actually smaller than it was
[1:09:15]
last year and it normally shouldn't be.
[1:09:17]
[snorts]
[1:09:18]
But what has happened is they have now
[1:09:20]
corrected that error that happened and
[1:09:22]
they had to take money out of our levy
[1:09:24]
and now that will be made up for a grant
[1:09:27]
that the state will provide us. So it's
[1:09:30]
making whole of that whole issue.
[1:09:34]
[cough]
[1:09:35]
[clears throat]
[1:09:35]
Have some information on the property
[1:09:38]
tax levy contribution to tax increment
[1:09:40]
districts. Um the summary here is that
[1:09:43]
our levy was supporting our tax
[1:09:45]
increment districts quite a bit uh in
[1:09:48]
over the years and that has now trailed
[1:09:50]
off. Uh there's only a little bit left
[1:09:53]
for us to cover in tax increment
[1:09:55]
district 3. Uh and that is because those
[1:09:57]
districts are performing well uh and
[1:10:00]
they're covering their costs better than
[1:10:02]
they were in prior years.
[1:10:07]
Uh so what does this mean for
[1:10:10]
impact on properties? Uh and so in the uh information I have um info about
[1:10:19]
village assessed value and where that's
[1:10:21]
gone over the last 10 years. Uh village
[1:10:23]
equalized value, where that's gone over
[1:10:25]
the last 10 years. All of those things
[1:10:27]
are important in how property taxes are
[1:10:30]
end up being calculated. I won't belabor
[1:10:33]
those points right now, but suffice to
[1:10:36]
say when it comes to the property tax
[1:10:39]
rate itself and we talk about the amount
[1:10:42]
that's going to be levied and the amount
[1:10:44]
that that can be spread over in terms of
[1:10:45]
assessed value, what we have at the end
[1:10:48]
of the day is our tax rate is basically
[1:10:50]
flat. Uh it's showing just a hair of a
[1:10:53]
percentage less right now just based on
[1:10:56]
what we have. Um, but I would take that
[1:10:59]
to mean that it's either going to be a
[1:11:01]
hair better, hair worse, or just about
[1:11:04]
the same as it was last year.
[1:11:06]
Um, and so because we had a a uh an
[1:11:10]
assessment year that was uh just a
[1:11:14]
maintenance year, we weren't doing a
[1:11:15]
market update, it's a lot easier to
[1:11:18]
compare your property taxes from
[1:11:20]
year-over-year because most property uh
[1:11:23]
most properties won't change in value
[1:11:25]
from the prior year. Uh so here's uh a
[1:11:29]
table that shows uh you know if you had
[1:11:31]
a $500,000 home uh and that was your
[1:11:34]
assessed value in 25 and it stayed the
[1:11:37]
same because of the maintenance year. Uh
[1:11:39]
right now we would be showing just a
[1:11:41]
little bit less for village share of
[1:11:43]
taxes. And that would be the point that
[1:11:45]
I would make is this is just the village
[1:11:47]
share of taxes. Your property tax bill
[1:11:50]
includes school districts, the counties
[1:11:52]
and the tech colleges. That's not
[1:11:54]
something that's shown here or factored
[1:11:56]
here. This is just the village portion.
[1:12:01]
And then as I like to show every year
[1:12:03]
too, where are we in comparison to our
[1:12:07]
peers cities and villages in Dayne
[1:12:09]
County? Um we have over the last couple
[1:12:13]
of years hovered around the median to a
[1:12:17]
little bit below the median. the the uh
[1:12:20]
table on the left shows the net total
[1:12:22]
property tax on a $500,000 home. So,
[1:12:25]
this is the property tax bill. It's
[1:12:28]
inclusive of all of the taxing
[1:12:29]
jurisdictions. So, if you uh look there,
[1:12:32]
we were a little bit below the median.
[1:12:34]
This black line, thicker black line is
[1:12:36]
the median. Uh and on average, we had
[1:12:39]
about $108
[1:12:41]
less than the average for a $500,000
[1:12:44]
home. And then when we're on the table
[1:12:47]
on the right is just the municipal
[1:12:50]
portion. So the village and city portion
[1:12:52]
of the tax bill. Uh and that excludes
[1:12:55]
the school district, county, and tech
[1:12:57]
college. Again, we're sort of hovering
[1:12:59]
right there uh below the median.
[1:13:04]
Anything I can answer on property taxes
[1:13:08]
at all? We'll continue on to the budget.
[1:13:15]
Okay,
[1:13:16]
so budget. Um, how do we bring the
[1:13:19]
budget all together? What are all the
[1:13:22]
things that play into it? Is it just
[1:13:24]
totally arbitrary about how I feel that
[1:13:26]
day or are there some things that we
[1:13:29]
actually use to try to help us guide
[1:13:31]
what we're doing? The answer is we have
[1:13:35]
some things that guide us. Um, so first
[1:13:38]
of all, we uh adopted a budget direction
[1:13:42]
resolution earlier this year in June.
[1:13:44]
The village board adopted that right
[1:13:46]
here. Uh, and so that told us a few
[1:13:50]
things that we need to be doing when we
[1:13:51]
put the budget together. Um, so number
[1:13:54]
one, the the goal was we want to try to
[1:13:58]
keep doing what we're doing, keep doing
[1:14:00]
the services that we're doing, keep
[1:14:02]
doing the functions that we're doing,
[1:14:03]
and try to keep doing them at the
[1:14:04]
current level.
[1:14:06]
that's addressed in the budget. So, the
[1:14:08]
budget does that. Um, this one here, the
[1:14:12]
second one talks about capital. We've
[1:14:14]
been progressing again through our
[1:14:16]
capital process that we did over the
[1:14:18]
last two months. We've continued to do
[1:14:21]
that. That's addressed. Uh, we've
[1:14:24]
incorporated a one-step compensation on
[1:14:26]
our compensation plan, and I'll talk a
[1:14:28]
little bit about that uh in a second,
[1:14:31]
but we've addressed that. We've put that
[1:14:32]
into the draft budget. Police union
[1:14:34]
negotiations are ongoing. We've got a
[1:14:36]
placeholder in the budget to hopefully
[1:14:39]
address what 2027 might look like. There
[1:14:42]
were four positions identified in that
[1:14:44]
resolution that we wanted to target for
[1:14:47]
uh addition to this budget. A full-time
[1:14:49]
police officer, a full-time custodian, a
[1:14:51]
full-time human resources director, and
[1:14:53]
one part-time library position. Uh as it
[1:14:57]
relates to the police officer and the HR
[1:14:59]
director position, we have fit that in
[1:15:01]
the budget with six months of funding.
[1:15:04]
Um, so what that means is we can start
[1:15:06]
those positions and start paying those
[1:15:08]
positions starting July 1. And we had to
[1:15:12]
do that uh in order to balance the
[1:15:14]
budget and get to it get it to where we
[1:15:16]
are right now with the $49,000 deficit
[1:15:20]
um we had to make a choice on making
[1:15:22]
those halfyear. So in 2028 we will have
[1:15:26]
to annualize those costs and try to
[1:15:29]
cover them in the full year which I
[1:15:31]
think we can do. But I'll talk a little
[1:15:33]
bit about that in just a second, too.
[1:15:35]
Uh, same thing is true with the
[1:15:37]
custodian position. We're gonna we have
[1:15:39]
that funded in the budget to start in
[1:15:41]
April, which coincides with roughly the
[1:15:44]
time frame that the building the new
[1:15:45]
building will open. And then we have one
[1:15:48]
part-time library position. We have that
[1:15:50]
50% covered by library donations. So,
[1:15:53]
that position is in there full-time or
[1:15:55]
is is in there for the full year. um but
[1:15:58]
only half is covered by what we would
[1:16:01]
consider ongoing revenue. So we'll have
[1:16:04]
to make that up again in 28.
[1:16:08]
The rest of the budget resolution
[1:16:09]
covered contributions to external
[1:16:11]
agencies. One was the fire and EMS
[1:16:14]
district. We wanted to try to hit that
[1:16:15]
property tax levy limit exception uh
[1:16:18]
again this year, which we have done.
[1:16:21]
OCA media was here talking about the
[1:16:23]
$100,000 contribution. There's some some
[1:16:25]
reasons behind that that have been
[1:16:26]
discussed.
[1:16:28]
um that has been included. The youth
[1:16:30]
center contribution has been maintained
[1:16:32]
at 17,000. Um that is the same uh again
[1:16:36]
and has been included in the budget. And
[1:16:38]
then we've asked some asked the
[1:16:40]
departments to put together a uh
[1:16:42]
assessment and budget worksheet and I'll
[1:16:44]
talk about that in a second, but that
[1:16:46]
was also done as well.
[1:16:49]
Another thing that factors into putting
[1:16:51]
the budget together is the board's
[1:16:53]
two-year strategic plan that was adopted
[1:16:55]
and approved in uh June of this year as
[1:16:58]
well. And so there are some things that
[1:17:01]
were identified in that that we have
[1:17:03]
gotten into the budget. One is the four
[1:17:07]
priority positions that we talked about.
[1:17:09]
Uh another is funding for work on
[1:17:12]
intergovernmental uh discussions with
[1:17:15]
the town of Oregon and the capital area
[1:17:17]
regional planning commission. So,
[1:17:18]
there's funds in there for that. We have
[1:17:21]
funds in there to study the storm water
[1:17:23]
utility, which we've discussed. There
[1:17:25]
are some funds in there to continue uh reviewing the feasibility of
[1:17:30]
the solar improvements at Village Hall,
[1:17:32]
although we talked about that project
[1:17:34]
maybe more years out, but we still have
[1:17:36]
some funds to just continue that work,
[1:17:39]
continue that planning work. We have
[1:17:41]
funds to reconstruct uh County Highway
[1:17:43]
MM phase one, County Highway MM Wolf
[1:17:46]
Street. uh funds to support continuing
[1:17:49]
and completing the storm the wastewater
[1:17:51]
treatment plant upgrade. Uh the continue
[1:17:54]
the future water system improvements
[1:17:56]
including the the elevated storage and
[1:17:58]
interzone booster station. Uh obviously
[1:18:01]
funds to complete the new senior center
[1:18:03]
and then we have funds to do the Bethl
[1:18:05]
Green Acre project and uh planning funds
[1:18:09]
for phase one of improvements to the
[1:18:12]
Oregon Conservation Park. So, those are
[1:18:13]
all things that were in your strategic
[1:18:15]
plan that you approved in June and
[1:18:18]
things that we have now funded uh in the
[1:18:21]
budget or at least the draft budget.
[1:18:26]
One thing I want to talk about a little
[1:18:28]
bit is these department worksheets that
[1:18:30]
we had departments fill out. Um, and I
[1:18:34]
think this has been a very useful
[1:18:35]
exercise in showing uh what we've talked
[1:18:38]
about over the last few years and
[1:18:40]
obviously what precipitated the uh
[1:18:42]
referendum in 2025, which is um you can
[1:18:46]
balance your budget, but you and it
[1:18:49]
might look good on paper, but you might
[1:18:51]
have to do it by holding things back.
[1:18:53]
And that might look like holding wages
[1:18:55]
back. It might look like holding pos
[1:18:57]
needed positions back. Obviously an
[1:18:59]
example here is we these are positions
[1:19:01]
that have been identified as needs and
[1:19:03]
we can only fund them for half the year
[1:19:05]
to make them work. Um so uh one thing
[1:19:08]
that is uh we started last year was
[1:19:11]
having some worksheets that sort of
[1:19:13]
capture how departments are feeling um
[1:19:16]
and and where they are with what they're
[1:19:18]
doing. And so I have some information in
[1:19:21]
here about that. I could probably talk a
[1:19:24]
long time about this. I'm going to try
[1:19:25]
to summarize it as best as possible. Um,
[1:19:29]
but probably the best way to capture it
[1:19:32]
is just this paragraph right here. So,
[1:19:33]
the 2027 assessments describe continuing
[1:19:37]
pressure on organizational capacity.
[1:19:39]
Many departments identified recurring
[1:19:41]
challenges involving limited staffing
[1:19:43]
and administrative support, growing
[1:19:45]
service demands, employee turnover and
[1:19:47]
retention, and technology or facility
[1:19:49]
problems. These pressures often pull
[1:19:51]
staff away from their primary
[1:19:52]
responsibilities and reduce the time
[1:19:54]
available for planning or service
[1:19:56]
improvements. Several departments also
[1:19:58]
describe funding constraints or public
[1:20:00]
expectations that exceed available
[1:20:02]
resources.
[1:20:04]
So in in the the uh materials here I
[1:20:08]
have all of the submitted worksheets
[1:20:11]
that departments provided. It's three
[1:20:13]
pages. Um first page is just a
[1:20:17]
describing of the first question which
[1:20:20]
the first question is this survey of
[1:20:23]
rating how um uh sort of the stress
[1:20:28]
within the department. So this first one
[1:20:29]
is staff overload and burnout you know a
[1:20:33]
rating is given an expected trend is
[1:20:35]
given and then an example is given.
[1:20:38]
Second question is
[1:20:40]
um what sort of challenges are you
[1:20:42]
facing that are limiting your service
[1:20:44]
delivery? And so there's a narrative
[1:20:46]
that answer that each department has
[1:20:48]
provided and then the third one is what
[1:20:50]
is your biggest priority investment for
[1:20:52]
2027 that would help you try to get at
[1:20:55]
addressing some of these challenges.
[1:20:58]
Uh and so
[1:21:00]
looking at the the survey of the
[1:21:03]
ratings, um this is a capture of of all
[1:21:07]
of those um ratings that departments
[1:21:10]
provided. Um so when we look at the
[1:21:15]
factor of staff overload and burnout,
[1:21:17]
you can see what that has been rated by
[1:21:19]
all the departments. 4.5,
[1:21:22]
you know, severe is a five, significant
[1:21:24]
is a four. The way that's described in
[1:21:28]
the worksheet is five severe persistent
[1:21:32]
potentially departmentwide and
[1:21:33]
critically undermining core operations
[1:21:35]
and service delivery for significant
[1:21:37]
occurs frequently or is widespread
[1:21:38]
clearly disrupting work impacting
[1:21:40]
multiple areas or causing notable staff
[1:21:42]
strain and then from proceeding down
[1:21:45]
from there. So obviously you look at
[1:21:48]
these you can see there's quite a bit of
[1:21:50]
significant and severe strain that's
[1:21:52]
being felt in departments right now. not
[1:21:54]
universal. There's certainly some areas
[1:21:56]
that um are a little bit less so. Um and
[1:22:00]
obviously clerk, community development,
[1:22:02]
library um those are some areas that
[1:22:05]
we're feeling it. I think if you were to
[1:22:06]
ask me anecdotally about what my
[1:22:09]
observation is of the the organization,
[1:22:12]
I think this captures it pretty darn
[1:22:14]
well.
[1:22:16]
Um I've attempted to summarize some of
[1:22:19]
these assessment summaries um for each
[1:22:22]
of the departments. Um so you can read
[1:22:24]
those in brief a little bit. Um what is
[1:22:28]
very helpful now that we've done this
[1:22:29]
two years is we can see what how things
[1:22:32]
have changed from the prior year to this
[1:22:34]
year. And this little chart little table
[1:22:38]
here sort of captures that. Um, so
[1:22:41]
anything that's uh orange is showing a
[1:22:44]
higher rating from compared to 2026.
[1:22:47]
Uh, anything that's unchanged is gray
[1:22:50]
and then anything blue is is a decrease.
[1:22:53]
Um, and that's not to say, you know,
[1:22:56]
this might give the impression that
[1:22:57]
things are okay, but a four is still a
[1:22:59]
significant strain. It just hasn't
[1:23:01]
changed from the prior year. Um, so you
[1:23:05]
can see there's increasing pressure. I
[1:23:07]
think a police is maybe a great example
[1:23:09]
where um there was a lot of focus on
[1:23:12]
that in the last year's budget um with
[1:23:15]
um trying to get some increases to the
[1:23:17]
management staff but then also kind of
[1:23:19]
fingers crossed that we didn't have any
[1:23:21]
turnover um and that's what happened.
[1:23:24]
There wasn't any turnover this year and
[1:23:26]
so I think you can see that reflected in
[1:23:28]
some of the easing. Now, I would
[1:23:30]
probably caveat that with saying, and I
[1:23:32]
think the chief would agree, and I think
[1:23:34]
her assessment worksheet would uh be in
[1:23:37]
line with this, is that it won't take
[1:23:39]
much for that to slip away. Um, if we
[1:23:42]
have some turnover again, it's probably
[1:23:44]
going to go right backwards again. Um,
[1:23:47]
so, uh, this particular moment in time,
[1:23:50]
things might feel a little bit better,
[1:23:51]
but, uh, those worksheets will help, uh,
[1:23:54]
give a little bit more context and
[1:23:55]
nuance to, uh, that information. So,
[1:24:00]
when we looked at question three, which
[1:24:02]
was what's that number one thing that if
[1:24:04]
you could get it into the budget, what
[1:24:05]
that would provide the most help for
[1:24:07]
your department? Um, we've added uh and
[1:24:11]
addressed quite a few of these things.
[1:24:13]
Most of them centered around the
[1:24:14]
positions that were already identified.
[1:24:17]
Um, and so that was able we were able to
[1:24:20]
get those things into the budget and and
[1:24:22]
speak to those. Uh, but not everything.
[1:24:24]
Um, so community development has a
[1:24:26]
position there. public works is
[1:24:28]
identifying some software solutions. Um
[1:24:32]
those things are not in the budget and
[1:24:33]
things that we'll have to continue
[1:24:35]
considering uh for future years.
[1:24:42]
All right,
[1:24:46]
couple more things to speak on uh in
[1:24:50]
terms of wider scale sort of impact on
[1:24:55]
the budget and
[1:24:57]
probably the the place to go for how for
[1:25:01]
a significant sort of 30,000 foot view
[1:25:04]
of how the budget moves uh is personnel
[1:25:07]
costs, cost of labor,
[1:25:10]
70% of our operating budget uh is
[1:25:13]
employee costs. Uh that's $7.7 million
[1:25:17]
of our budget. Um so uh we're obviously
[1:25:21]
a a service uh organization and services
[1:25:24]
are delivered by employees. Um and
[1:25:28]
service quality can eb and flow uh based
[1:25:31]
on the amount and the quality of
[1:25:32]
employees that we have. Um, we have an
[1:25:36]
employee compensation plan that was
[1:25:38]
adopted by the board in in 2023.
[1:25:41]
Um, and that helps guide how we uh divvy
[1:25:44]
up our what funds that we do have for
[1:25:47]
compensation. Uh, obviously balancing
[1:25:50]
other factors such as the additional
[1:25:52]
addition of positions and things like
[1:25:54]
that. Uh, but the goal of th that plan
[1:25:56]
is really twofold. is to ensure external
[1:25:59]
competitiveness with our uh other
[1:26:01]
village peers, other cities and villages
[1:26:04]
and then just to maintain internal
[1:26:05]
consistency within uh our organization
[1:26:09]
based on uh employees responsibilities
[1:26:12]
and complexity of their job. What this
[1:26:15]
looks like takes the form of this. This
[1:26:17]
is our employee wage schedule. This was
[1:26:19]
adopted in 2026 as part of the 26
[1:26:21]
budget. Um, and you can see it
[1:26:24]
stratifies the positions based on
[1:26:26]
responsibility and complexity and
[1:26:28]
organizational impact into different
[1:26:31]
grades. And then there's a uh wage scale
[1:26:35]
that's been established based on uh the
[1:26:37]
compensation study that was done in 22
[1:26:40]
and then updated in 2025.
[1:26:42]
Uh and so the range essentially means
[1:26:46]
this is what a pos this position is
[1:26:49]
likely to be found being paid within the
[1:26:52]
market and the range of that from a step
[1:26:55]
one to all the way up to a step 16.
[1:26:58]
We've delineated it by step six is what
[1:27:01]
we would consider the market median for
[1:27:03]
the position or sort of the market rate.
[1:27:06]
and that if you wanted to try to pay
[1:27:08]
your employees at a market rate, that
[1:27:11]
would be the goal that you want to try
[1:27:13]
to get positions and people to. Um, now
[1:27:17]
if you don't have, it's not necessarily
[1:27:20]
a bad thing that employees might be paid
[1:27:22]
below that because they might not have a
[1:27:24]
lot of experience and they're just
[1:27:25]
learning their position. Uh and so our
[1:27:28]
policy brings people in generally
[1:27:30]
speaking in those below steps when
[1:27:32]
they're getting hired and then they can
[1:27:34]
progress up to the market median. Uh and
[1:27:37]
it's not necessarily a bad thing if
[1:27:39]
employees are over the market median
[1:27:41]
either because they might be very well
[1:27:42]
experienced employees and we want to
[1:27:44]
compensate for that. Um so all of those
[1:27:48]
factors uh play into it.
[1:27:53]
Um,
[1:27:55]
a couple points I would make on employee
[1:27:57]
compensation and and just kind of it's
[1:28:00]
important kind of to remember a little
[1:28:01]
bit of the history of this. So when we
[1:28:04]
before the compensation plan, it was
[1:28:06]
essentially an ad hoc system and that
[1:28:10]
whenever we had to hire somebody, we
[1:28:11]
decided what we wanted to pay them and
[1:28:13]
went out and looked, you know, at peers
[1:28:15]
and things like that. It wasn't a a
[1:28:17]
consistent or cohesive system that sort
[1:28:19]
of worked within itself.
[1:28:21]
Um when we did the compensation study in
[1:28:24]
2022, 82% of the employees were earning
[1:28:29]
less than the bottom of the market pay
[1:28:31]
range and that they were less than step
[1:28:34]
one on this scale. So 82% of employees
[1:28:37]
were less than the bottom range of their
[1:28:40]
market for their position.
[1:28:43]
Village did some pretty uh substantial
[1:28:47]
policym policy decisions at that time.
[1:28:49]
They put the wheel tax into place and
[1:28:52]
they put in the street light uh charge
[1:28:54]
that is on our utility bills. And
[1:28:56]
together that generated about half a
[1:28:58]
million dollars in revenue that got
[1:29:00]
divided up into sort of the buckets that
[1:29:02]
they need to go to and that ended up
[1:29:05]
freeing, you know, about a half million
[1:29:07]
dollars to be spent on and put towards
[1:29:10]
addressing this compensation issue. And
[1:29:13]
so this uh chart right here does a
[1:29:16]
really good job of capturing this. Um
[1:29:19]
when we implemented it for the first
[1:29:21]
year, we had this large amount of
[1:29:23]
revenue that was new that got
[1:29:25]
implemented and that we could use for
[1:29:27]
these wage increases.
[1:29:29]
And so using that half million dollars,
[1:29:32]
we were able to get
[1:29:35]
everybody actually onto the scale
[1:29:37]
itself. So we were able to every get
[1:29:39]
everybody into the the wage ranges that
[1:29:42]
were uh found through the wage study.
[1:29:46]
We got most of uh the employees up to a
[1:29:50]
minimum of step one. And then some of
[1:29:52]
the more experienced employees, I think
[1:29:54]
we picked five years. If you had five
[1:29:56]
years of experience with the village, we
[1:29:58]
tried to get everybody of those
[1:30:00]
individuals up to a step three. And so
[1:30:03]
that first year that's where uh the
[1:30:06]
percentage of employees sort of fell. So
[1:30:09]
about 90% of employees were now on the
[1:30:12]
scale or everybody was on the scale but
[1:30:14]
90% were below the market rate. Uh and
[1:30:17]
there was just a couple people that um
[1:30:19]
happened to have more competitive rates
[1:30:21]
already that were a little bit higher.
[1:30:24]
done some work over the last few years
[1:30:26]
trying to get employees progressed
[1:30:29]
through that understanding limitations
[1:30:31]
of revenues that we have and that the
[1:30:34]
first initial sort of uh jump was
[1:30:37]
because we had a new source of revenue
[1:30:39]
and that can't really be replicated
[1:30:41]
again. Uh but we have now gotten 50 uh
[1:30:46]
1% of our employees who are now below
[1:30:48]
step six. So we've progressed from 90%
[1:30:51]
below step six to 51%.
[1:30:54]
And we've gotten 24% of our employees to
[1:30:57]
the market median and another 25% who
[1:31:00]
are above the market median. So about
[1:31:02]
half are below step six, half our step
[1:31:05]
six or above. So we've done a a really
[1:31:08]
good job of making some interventions
[1:31:12]
and making some choices and then getting
[1:31:14]
employees up onto a competitive scale
[1:31:19]
even if they are not sort of ideally
[1:31:22]
located within that scale. I think, you
[1:31:24]
know, we would want to see some of our
[1:31:26]
more experienced employees being in that
[1:31:28]
higher range
[1:31:30]
um than where they are currently. But
[1:31:33]
again, you have a fixed amount of
[1:31:35]
revenue. You have other priorities. You
[1:31:38]
have you want to add positions to help
[1:31:40]
with capacity. You have other
[1:31:42]
inflationary factors that you have to
[1:31:44]
address with your limited amount of
[1:31:45]
revenue. So you have to balance all of
[1:31:48]
those things uh and try to find a happy
[1:31:51]
median especially if you don't have a
[1:31:53]
new source of revenue and you're not
[1:31:55]
willing to sort of reduce uh services
[1:31:57]
somewhere else to sort of reassign
[1:31:59]
funds.
[1:32:01]
So all that to say we have a one-step
[1:32:05]
increase on in the budget. So that means
[1:32:09]
we are moving everybody wherever they
[1:32:12]
are up one more step on the scale.
[1:32:19]
And depending on where you are on the
[1:32:21]
scale, if you're below step six, it's a
[1:32:23]
2.5% increase. And if you're above step
[1:32:25]
six, it's a 1.25% increase. And the
[1:32:29]
thought being behind that that was
[1:32:30]
approved last year is that we want to
[1:32:33]
try to get people moved up into the
[1:32:35]
market median quickly. If you are at
[1:32:37]
five years of experience, you should
[1:32:39]
know how to do your job at that point.
[1:32:42]
Uh, and we should hopefully be paying
[1:32:43]
you at the market rate. And if you're
[1:32:46]
above that, it becomes a cost
[1:32:47]
containment factor, right? And and a
[1:32:50]
perception factor in some ways. If this
[1:32:52]
is we're saying this is the market
[1:32:54]
median,
[1:32:55]
um, do we want to show that a bunch of
[1:32:58]
employees are moving really quickly
[1:33:00]
above that market median or does that
[1:33:02]
make it appear like we're paying above
[1:33:04]
the market? And then also because it's a
[1:33:06]
higher uh rate and we're applying
[1:33:08]
increases, that's going to consume a
[1:33:11]
larger amount of cash to continue
[1:33:13]
funding that. And that kind of plays out
[1:33:16]
this year with this increase because
[1:33:19]
um if we were doing an across the board
[1:33:22]
increase for example, the limited amount
[1:33:25]
of revenue that we have towards putting towards employee increases,
[1:33:31]
a greater share of that revenue would be
[1:33:34]
being taken and given to what we would
[1:33:37]
consider high more highly compensated
[1:33:39]
employees who are above the market
[1:33:41]
median. And so you would end up what you
[1:33:43]
would end up if we did an across the
[1:33:45]
board increases it would probably look
[1:33:46]
like maybe a 1.5 or 1.75%
[1:33:50]
increase. And then what that would look
[1:33:53]
like in terms of dollars is uh you would
[1:33:56]
have people who are higher on the scale
[1:33:58]
getting a lot more dollars and people on
[1:34:00]
the lower end of the scale. And then
[1:34:02]
when you factor in things like health
[1:34:04]
insurance premium contributions and
[1:34:06]
retirement insurance contributions,
[1:34:08]
health insurance is a regressive
[1:34:10]
contribution. And so if you're making
[1:34:12]
less, a greater percentage of your
[1:34:13]
salary is going to the health insurance
[1:34:15]
contribution. And that [clears throat]
[1:34:17]
plays out when you look at health
[1:34:19]
insurance in this year's budget. It's
[1:34:22]
about a 4% increase for the vill's
[1:34:25]
contribution, the employer's
[1:34:26]
contribution, but it is a 20%
[1:34:29]
contribution increase for uh those who
[1:34:33]
are selecting GHC or courts UW. And that
[1:34:36]
equates to about $700 or $900 more in an
[1:34:41]
employee salary from this year, this
[1:34:44]
upcoming year to this last year. And so
[1:34:46]
what's happening with our percentage
[1:34:48]
increases for our steps is that uh
[1:34:51]
because we are sort of dividing it
[1:34:54]
differently amongst wherever you are in
[1:34:56]
the scale, we have about uh
[1:35:01]
78% of the employees getting between
[1:35:04]
about $1,000 and $2,000 more onto their
[1:35:07]
wages. And then we have a couple that
[1:35:10]
are getting about $1,000 less and a
[1:35:12]
couple who are getting about $2,000
[1:35:14]
more. And so what we're do what this has
[1:35:18]
done is we are able to give more dollars
[1:35:22]
to more people
[1:35:24]
and their take-home pay will be less
[1:35:26]
affected by changes to health insurance
[1:35:29]
and retirement or more equitably
[1:35:33]
uh um aortioned. So, if we were doing
[1:35:36]
more of an across the board, what you
[1:35:39]
would probably see is a greater
[1:35:40]
percentage falling below that 1,00 uh
[1:35:44]
and a higher percentage going above that
[1:35:46]
2,000. So, it would have kind of would
[1:35:48]
go in sort of opposite directions. So,
[1:35:50]
we're trying to kind of thread that
[1:35:53]
needle a little bit of sort of fairness
[1:35:56]
um and all sorts of other different
[1:35:58]
factors there.
[1:36:01]
Uh [clears throat] so to that point, um
[1:36:04]
as far as I think I've covered health
[1:36:07]
insurance and wages there broadly
[1:36:09]
enough, retirement,
[1:36:12]
it's going up a little bit. That's set
[1:36:14]
by the state. Uh the village has to
[1:36:16]
provide a little bit more. The employee
[1:36:17]
has to provide a little bit more. All
[1:36:19]
that factors into about $25,000 more for
[1:36:22]
the village to cover uh in cost for
[1:36:25]
pension costs. And you know, when we go
[1:36:27]
back to that levy limit um page where
[1:36:31]
it's, you know, we're only getting maybe
[1:36:32]
a hundred to $200,000 in new levy and 25
[1:36:36]
of that thousand of that is already
[1:36:38]
being made up in new pension
[1:36:39]
contributions. You're already consuming
[1:36:41]
a ton of large percentage of your new
[1:36:44]
revenue just to maintain your pension
[1:36:47]
contributions.
[1:36:49]
Uh workers compensation, we've been
[1:36:51]
really good in this in LA in the last
[1:36:54]
few years. Fortunately, we had an injury
[1:36:56]
in late 2025 that was a little bit more
[1:36:58]
significant and that has impacted on the
[1:37:01]
2027 rates. So, what you're seeing
[1:37:03]
across the whole village budget is a 41%
[1:37:06]
increase to workers compensation costs
[1:37:09]
or about $25,000. Again, um so that went
[1:37:13]
from 61,000 to about 86,000
[1:37:16]
uh in premiums for work comp. Again,
[1:37:20]
you take 25,000 of work comp premiums,
[1:37:22]
new new work comp premiums, 25,000 of
[1:37:25]
new pension contributions. It's $50,000
[1:37:28]
in your budget. We got about $150,000
[1:37:31]
in property tax money to play with
[1:37:34]
already. You've consumed about a third
[1:37:36]
of the new revenue that you get from
[1:37:37]
your primary revenue source just to
[1:37:40]
figure out these two things.
[1:37:45]
Another big uh element of the budget is
[1:37:48]
shared revenue and state aids. Um so if
[1:37:51]
property tax is you know 60% 60 to 70%
[1:37:54]
of your revenue state aids and shared
[1:37:57]
revenue make up another good healthy
[1:37:59]
chunk of your revenue which is about
[1:38:01]
20%. When you take these two things
[1:38:03]
together state aid and share uh property
[1:38:05]
taxes it's about 80 to 90% of our
[1:38:09]
budget. Um so these are this is a big
[1:38:11]
factor that comes into play as well and
[1:38:13]
it's another factor that we don't really
[1:38:15]
have the ability to control for. Um so
[1:38:19]
shared revenues make up uh there's a few
[1:38:21]
different programs under the umbrella of
[1:38:23]
shared revenue um county and municipal
[1:38:25]
aid utility aid expenditure restraint uh
[1:38:28]
supplemental county and municipal aid.
[1:38:30]
That was a new program created a couple
[1:38:31]
years ago. See the history of those
[1:38:34]
here. It's going up uh marginally for
[1:38:37]
2027.
[1:38:39]
Um, the one thing that I would just
[1:38:41]
point to and and point out is when we
[1:38:43]
talk about levy limits over the last 20
[1:38:46]
years, those also coincided with uh
[1:38:50]
changes to state aids and state shared
[1:38:53]
revenues. So, if you go back to 2003,
[1:38:56]
the county and municipal aid, which is
[1:38:58]
an unrestricted amount of shared revenue
[1:39:00]
that the all communities get, is about
[1:39:03]
344,000.
[1:39:06]
And so today, when you look at county
[1:39:08]
and municipal aid, you look at the
[1:39:10]
supplemental county and municipal aid
[1:39:11]
that was created and you count for
[1:39:14]
inflation, we're still behind what the
[1:39:17]
purchasing power of those dollars was in
[1:39:19]
2003 compared to what we're getting in
[1:39:21]
2027. We're about $100,000
[1:39:24]
short of what that money meant in 2003
[1:39:28]
compared to what it now means in 2027.
[1:39:32]
Um so that's another factor to think
[1:39:36]
about and again we don't control those are dictated to us and given to
[1:39:40]
us.
[1:39:43]
Another revenue from the state is
[1:39:44]
general general transportation aids. We
[1:39:47]
this is an area where we have done been
[1:39:49]
able to uh get some decent increases in
[1:39:52]
uh and that's a factor of uh this
[1:39:55]
program really relies on you need to
[1:39:58]
help yourself before we will help you
[1:40:01]
sort of thing. Uh and so what has
[1:40:04]
happened over the last few years, uh
[1:40:06]
certainly since 2019, 2010 or 2020, the
[1:40:10]
village has been doing a lot more street
[1:40:12]
work, uh a lot more major street work,
[1:40:14]
always doing at least one or two major
[1:40:16]
street reconstruction projects every
[1:40:18]
year. That is a factor that plays into
[1:40:21]
how much general transportation aids you
[1:40:23]
get. So if your amount of money that
[1:40:25]
you're spending on this work is going
[1:40:27]
up, you have a good chance of getting
[1:40:29]
higher calculation of general
[1:40:31]
transportation aids in the following
[1:40:32]
year. And if you stop investing in your
[1:40:34]
infrastructure, this amount starts to
[1:40:36]
slowly creep down. Um so it's a good uh
[1:40:41]
suggestion to always do at least one
[1:40:43]
major street reconstruction project a
[1:40:45]
year. it nets you a little bit of
[1:40:47]
operational uh revenue from [snorts]
[1:40:50]
this side of things um to the tune of
[1:40:53]
about 40,000 more for 2027.
[1:40:59]
Uh the last thing um I'll kind of cover
[1:41:02]
here from this sort of 30,000 foot view
[1:41:04]
is investment income.
[1:41:07]
So, uh, this table here shows, uh, what
[1:41:11]
we've been able to get from investment
[1:41:13]
income over the last, uh, 10 years or
[1:41:16]
so, 10, 15 years. And, uh, this
[1:41:20]
obviously es and flows by what our
[1:41:23]
interest rates are in the greater
[1:41:25]
economy. And you can see that uh, about
[1:41:29]
a decade ago, there wasn't very good
[1:41:31]
interest rates. Uh, there were very low
[1:41:32]
interest rates. And you can see that we
[1:41:34]
have not we didn't were not making uh
[1:41:36]
hard nearly any investment income back
[1:41:38]
at that time. Last few years it's been a
[1:41:41]
different story. And you can see the
[1:41:42]
amount of revenue that's been generated
[1:41:45]
uh over those last couple of years. Uh
[1:41:48]
this is a little bit of a tricky area
[1:41:50]
for you to rely on as a revenue source
[1:41:52]
for operating because operating is a
[1:41:55]
cost that happens every year and if you
[1:41:57]
rely on it and it doesn't happen, you're
[1:41:59]
going to have a deficit. Um and so uh
[1:42:04]
last year we increased the amount of
[1:42:07]
revenue that we rely on for paying for
[1:42:09]
operating expenses to 170,000.
[1:42:13]
Uh it looks like that's going to be
[1:42:15]
okay. We were at 187,000 recently. So
[1:42:19]
we're going to come in assuredly above
[1:42:21]
that 170 and we have as part [snorts] of
[1:42:24]
this proposed budget kept that 170,000
[1:42:28]
the same this year. So we did not need
[1:42:29]
to rely on any more uh generation of
[1:42:33]
investment income but no less either. Um
[1:42:38]
and if there's a major economic downturn
[1:42:42]
um you can see that that can dry up
[1:42:44]
really quickly. Uh and so that is
[1:42:46]
something a risk that you need to think
[1:42:49]
about and uh consider.
[1:42:53]
Um
[1:42:55]
last thing uh on just the overall budget
[1:42:59]
I have a little bit on a little bit more
[1:43:02]
on the sort of organizational capacity
[1:43:04]
discussion that we just talked about
[1:43:05]
with departments and it's a a
[1:43:08]
conversation that's been belabored if
[1:43:10]
you've been on the board for the last
[1:43:12]
couple of years and obviously why it um
[1:43:15]
we went to referendum uh last year only
[1:43:18]
18 months ago um
[1:43:22]
but uh so I have some conversations on
[1:43:24]
that and and and where that is. Um but
[1:43:26]
one thing I wanted to just point out was
[1:43:28]
the 2028 budget outlook. So with this
[1:43:32]
budget, we are funding these position
[1:43:35]
these new positions for half the year in
[1:43:36]
order to balance the budget. In 2028,
[1:43:40]
you can almost do virtually a copy and
[1:43:42]
paste of this budget for 2028 because
[1:43:44]
we're going to have to annualize those
[1:43:46]
decisions. So, if there's only six
[1:43:48]
months of funding for the HR director
[1:43:50]
position in 27, we're going to need 12
[1:43:53]
months in 2028. So, we're going to have
[1:43:54]
to come up with that funding in 2028. I
[1:43:57]
think that's reasonable. I think we'll
[1:44:00]
have
[1:44:01]
roughly the same generation of revenue
[1:44:04]
that we have this year that we can apply
[1:44:06]
to in 2028 as well.
[1:44:09]
Um, so I but I just want everybody to be
[1:44:12]
with the understanding departments,
[1:44:14]
elected officials, public as well that
[1:44:18]
if you're thinking that something
[1:44:20]
interesting or special is going to
[1:44:22]
happen in the 2028 budget, I would say
[1:44:24]
you're very wrong. [laughter]
[1:44:26]
Um, it is probably going to be the same
[1:44:29]
budget that we had this year, but just
[1:44:32]
making sure that the priorities we put
[1:44:33]
into 2027 can be funded completely in
[1:44:37]
2028. The only thing the only suggestion
[1:44:40]
that I would have um is that if we do
[1:44:45]
have some sufficient capacity and
[1:44:47]
there's a few factors that might play
[1:44:49]
into that one is the storm water utility
[1:44:52]
if that is something that we end up
[1:44:53]
moving ahead with that will have some
[1:44:56]
additional revenue generation qualities
[1:44:58]
about it. Um the other factor is if we
[1:45:02]
can keep up with our uh new construction
[1:45:06]
um which that is slowing down a little
[1:45:09]
bit. Um and I would expect a little bit
[1:45:11]
more of a slower year. Um
[1:45:15]
so if if there is capacity there um if
[1:45:20]
for 2028 I would suggest if we're adding
[1:45:22]
a position
[1:45:24]
um I would suggest we add it in
[1:45:26]
community development. Um it is uh it is
[1:45:30]
the most thinly staffed department that
[1:45:32]
we have. Uh there's virtually only one
[1:45:35]
person who is doing planning and
[1:45:36]
economic development. Uh and that person
[1:45:39]
is responsible for tens if not hundreds
[1:45:41]
of millions of dollars of potential uh
[1:45:44]
investment in the community, the face of
[1:45:46]
the community. Um and if she decided to
[1:45:49]
hang it up, we would be in uh in
[1:45:52]
trouble. I would be in trouble because I
[1:45:53]
would have to do her job for a little
[1:45:55]
while. Um so uh we are to the point
[1:45:59]
where um we need some help there. Um we
[1:46:03]
desperately need some help there in
[1:46:05]
terms of risk management. That is one
[1:46:07]
that's starting to to flash red for me
[1:46:10]
from at an organizational level.
[1:46:14]
Um but that remains to be seen um if we
[1:46:17]
even have the ability to even fund
[1:46:19]
another position in 2028.
[1:46:21]
Um and one thing I want to just note on
[1:46:24]
the storm water utility in particular.
[1:46:26]
So we talk about that as a source of
[1:46:28]
revenue.
[1:46:30]
So this year in the budget we have in uh
[1:46:32]
in the budget to fund the study of the
[1:46:35]
creation of that and to set it up. Uh so
[1:46:39]
at some point probably this time next
[1:46:41]
year we will come to you with a product
[1:46:44]
that says here is what we're talking
[1:46:46]
here's what we have. This is a storm
[1:46:47]
water utility. Do you want to approve it
[1:46:49]
or not approve it? And if you approve
[1:46:52]
it, what that will do is it will create
[1:46:54]
a new charge on utility bills. So, it's
[1:46:57]
going to generate new revenue by adding
[1:47:00]
a charge to people's utility bills. So,
[1:47:03]
that is a political question that you
[1:47:05]
will have to answer. So, when you're
[1:47:07]
looking at some of these things, uh
[1:47:09]
you're like, you might be thinking, wow,
[1:47:12]
we need to do something, right? There's
[1:47:13]
a lot of challenges here. We need to
[1:47:15]
find some money. here is one of those
[1:47:18]
options that might sound good, but then
[1:47:20]
when you're faced with having to approve
[1:47:22]
a new charge on a utility bill, you
[1:47:25]
might hear that people feel differently.
[1:47:28]
And so I just want to tee that up as
[1:47:31]
your advisor that that is a future that
[1:47:33]
could be yours to contend with.
[1:47:36]
>> It might also be interesting if we have
[1:47:37]
some bad storm water management issues
[1:47:40]
as that's being implemented.
[1:47:41]
>> Yes. And and that's it's not not just a
[1:47:44]
financial choice, but it there's no
[1:47:47]
doubt that a storm utility which would
[1:47:49]
be better funded would have operational
[1:47:52]
consequences that would improve
[1:47:55]
>> um that. So there's a whole host of
[1:47:58]
policym decisions and trade-offs that
[1:48:01]
play into that. But from a purely
[1:48:03]
financial perspective, that is will be a
[1:48:06]
consequential choice that um will be
[1:48:09]
posed to all of you.
[1:48:12]
Um, [clears throat]
[1:48:14]
capital and debt. We've covered that a
[1:48:16]
ton. All that's in the budget right now
[1:48:19]
as far as 2027 is taking what was in the
[1:48:23]
2027 capital plan and moving that into
[1:48:26]
our actual budget. Um, so I know that
[1:48:29]
we've seen this list of things uh over
[1:48:32]
the last two months. You've obviously
[1:48:34]
seen this tiny
[1:48:36]
fonted document a ton of times. All
[1:48:40]
that's being carried forward into the
[1:48:43]
actual budget is this column here of
[1:48:45]
2027.
[1:48:47]
We have a variety of different funds
[1:48:48]
that we account for capital. Um I've
[1:48:51]
listed them all here and explained them
[1:48:52]
all here. And then you have the actual
[1:48:55]
line item budgets that you can look at.
[1:48:59]
Um, and I will just say, um, when you're
[1:49:02]
looking at these 20 2027 department head
[1:49:05]
budget, 2027 admin budget, 2027 fiscal
[1:49:07]
year adopt budget, they're all the same.
[1:49:10]
They're they just get plugged in and
[1:49:11]
they're all the same. So, when you're
[1:49:12]
looking at them, um, you know, you can
[1:49:15]
see the 2025 prior year actual, that's
[1:49:18]
the actual audited 2026 current year
[1:49:20]
budget. That was the budget that was
[1:49:22]
adopted. Current year actual is what
[1:49:24]
we've spent. Projected is our guess at
[1:49:26]
where it might end up at the end of the
[1:49:27]
year. And then you can just factor that
[1:49:30]
any three of these columns is what's
[1:49:32]
being proposed as the draft budget
[1:49:36]
[clears throat]
[1:49:36]
and just for um
[1:49:40]
you know just to sort of I guess show
[1:49:44]
what uh this sort of looks like from as
[1:49:47]
it translates over
[1:49:49]
um I'll take an example here.
[1:49:53]
We got
[1:49:55]
camp civic campus master civic campus
[1:49:58]
plan projects capital fund that shows
[1:50:00]
where our uh funding for this new senior
[1:50:04]
center project is going to be. Um so you
[1:50:06]
can see this is obviously very tiny but
[1:50:09]
loan proceeds this is what we expect to
[1:50:11]
borrow. This is on the revenue side and
[1:50:13]
then on the the expenditure side um you
[1:50:17]
know we have a dollar amount for what we
[1:50:19]
expect to expend for that project. So,
[1:50:21]
it's just it's translating all those
[1:50:23]
things from the capital plan into an
[1:50:24]
actual functional um operational budget,
[1:50:29]
so to speak. Debt service, uh we covered
[1:50:32]
that. As far as the 2027 budget goes, um
[1:50:36]
these are payments that are due in 2027.
[1:50:40]
There are they've already happened. We
[1:50:42]
have to pay those. We don't really have
[1:50:44]
an option not to pay those, but this is
[1:50:46]
showing what that looks like. And then I
[1:50:49]
also have sort of where we've talked
[1:50:52]
about the debt service going over the
[1:50:53]
next 10 years.
[1:50:56]
And then general fund, this is the main
[1:50:58]
fund, the main operating fund of the
[1:51:00]
village. I will close it out here and
[1:51:03]
just cover uh a couple things. I have
[1:51:07]
some narrative about what all the
[1:51:09]
different sections are, how they came to
[1:51:12]
be, why they are, description of those
[1:51:16]
things,
[1:51:17]
and then the actual line item budgets
[1:51:19]
are in there. And so you can see the
[1:51:21]
revenues, taxes, general property taxes
[1:51:24]
for the village, there's that general
[1:51:26]
property tax number that comes from that
[1:51:28]
property tax levy limit worksheet
[1:51:30]
translating down into the actual budget.
[1:51:33]
your governmental revenues, your shared
[1:51:35]
revenues. That's where that's contained
[1:51:36]
right there. License permits, fines,
[1:51:40]
public charges, and then it segus into
[1:51:44]
the actual expenditure side.
[1:51:46]
Um, and you can see your general
[1:51:48]
government, and that proceeds from
[1:51:49]
there. One thing I'll point out, and
[1:51:52]
this will be the last thing I will say
[1:51:54]
hopefully,
[1:51:56]
um, is
[1:51:59]
look at the makeup of these budget
[1:52:02]
funds. Uh
[1:52:04]
so you will either see something that
[1:52:08]
looks like
[1:52:10]
use a good example here.
[1:52:16]
Let's use a smaller one. So village
[1:52:18]
hall. This is the budget to pay for the
[1:52:21]
cost of operating the village hall. And
[1:52:25]
you'll see line items
[1:52:28]
right here that are related to salaries
[1:52:31]
and employee benefit or fringe costs. So
[1:52:35]
that is that 70% of the budget. When you
[1:52:37]
look through all of it, 70% of the
[1:52:39]
budget is going to be in those line
[1:52:41]
items across all the different funds.
[1:52:44]
And then the rest of these funds
[1:52:47]
are other operating costs, non-personnel
[1:52:50]
operating costs. So for the village
[1:52:51]
hall, what is that? that is we got to
[1:52:53]
pay our electric bill. We got to pay our
[1:52:55]
water and sewer bill. There's going to
[1:52:56]
be some repair and maintenance costs.
[1:52:59]
There's going to be property insurance
[1:53:00]
that we have to pay. There's going to be
[1:53:02]
supplies that we have to pay. And so
[1:53:05]
you'll see a lot of budgets that look
[1:53:07]
like that, right? So here's police
[1:53:10]
similar thing, right? There's personnel
[1:53:13]
line items and then there's the actual
[1:53:14]
operating budget.
[1:53:17]
And then there is other line item. There
[1:53:19]
are other funds. So like the assessor
[1:53:22]
for example where it's a contracted
[1:53:25]
service. So you don't see those line
[1:53:27]
items. You're seeing professional
[1:53:28]
services or other contractual services.
[1:53:31]
That's the cost to pay for the assessor
[1:53:33]
this upcoming year that we have
[1:53:35]
contracted.
[1:53:36]
So when you put those personnel costs
[1:53:39]
and those contracted costs together
[1:53:42]
that's like 85% of our entire budget. 85
[1:53:45]
high 80% of our budget. And then when it
[1:53:48]
comes down to those operating expenses,
[1:53:50]
which is paying utility, paying fuel,
[1:53:53]
paying property insurance, that is a
[1:53:56]
pretty small margin of our budget. And
[1:54:00]
so when people ask, well, isn't there
[1:54:02]
any way we place we can save money?
[1:54:05]
You can't really do that without
[1:54:07]
something with employees, right? Or or
[1:54:10]
closing a facility for a period of time
[1:54:14]
to lower costs somewhere. So if you're
[1:54:17]
talking about finding a way to save,
[1:54:19]
you're talking about affecting
[1:54:21]
employees, which in turns affect what
[1:54:24]
services you provide. Um, and so as I
[1:54:27]
mentioned before, when we talk about
[1:54:29]
these eras of levy limits and shared
[1:54:32]
revenue uh being depressed,
[1:54:35]
um, we have been through the era of
[1:54:40]
controlling costs. We have been through
[1:54:42]
the era of trying to find easy sources
[1:54:45]
of revenue. We are now in the era of
[1:54:48]
referendum harder sources of revenue um
[1:54:52]
or uh reducing reducing services and and
[1:54:57]
reassigning. Right? So if there's a more
[1:54:59]
of a priority for one service, you're
[1:55:02]
not necessarily saving money. You're
[1:55:03]
basically taking it from one department
[1:55:05]
and you're giving it to another
[1:55:06]
department depending on whatever your
[1:55:08]
priority might be.
[1:55:10]
So, that's where I'll leave it. And the
[1:55:13]
next meeting, we'll have an updated
[1:55:14]
version and then we'll talk about the
[1:55:16]
special revenue funds and utilities and
[1:55:20]
tax increment districts.
[1:55:22]
>> Questions?
[1:55:24]
On Tim?
[1:55:25]
>> I saw Fitchburg is considering a
[1:55:27]
forestry fund as an addition to their
[1:55:29]
utility bill. Have we looked at that at
[1:55:31]
all? We know anything about it?
[1:55:32]
>> Yes. Um we've talked about that a little
[1:55:35]
bit and
[1:55:38]
I think in the order of thinking at
[1:55:40]
least for staff's part um the storm
[1:55:43]
water utility would probably be the
[1:55:45]
first thing that we would recommend and
[1:55:48]
that is because it is a bit easier to
[1:55:52]
sort of contemplate in terms of
[1:55:54]
charging. It's a more wellestablished
[1:55:56]
revenue that a lot of communities have.
[1:55:58]
We're one of the few cities and villages
[1:56:00]
that don't have a city uh stormware
[1:56:02]
utility in Dane County. So that's we're
[1:56:05]
kind of pulling on one of those.
[1:56:08]
I I understand that and Lauren and I
[1:56:10]
have talked about this a little bit.
[1:56:12]
There are some communities who have
[1:56:13]
pulled sort of their forestry function
[1:56:15]
into their storm water utility. Um
[1:56:18]
that's a sort of an odd stretch to me.
[1:56:21]
Um, but
[1:56:23]
apparently it's it's working and maybe
[1:56:26]
that's something we want to consider as
[1:56:27]
part of exploration of the storm water
[1:56:29]
utility. Um, but the forestry might be
[1:56:32]
something that we would maybe advise on
[1:56:35]
after storm water utility if we don't
[1:56:37]
decided to try to put it into our storm
[1:56:40]
water utility. So there's u a couple of
[1:56:44]
revenue sources that are are left. Store
[1:56:48]
utility is probably the lowest hanging
[1:56:50]
fruit. Forestry is one I didn't hear as
[1:56:53]
much talked about uh in the past, but
[1:56:56]
now it's becoming a little bit more
[1:56:58]
common. City of Madison has one. Um and
[1:57:01]
so now people are starting to really
[1:57:02]
look at that one. That one gets a little
[1:57:04]
weird because how do you charge it? Um
[1:57:07]
and linear footage of frontage um is
[1:57:12]
[clears throat] a factor and there's all
[1:57:13]
sorts of other factors. And then you
[1:57:15]
need to be careful of not making it look
[1:57:17]
like a tax uh because the courts don't
[1:57:21]
like that.
[1:57:22]
>> Yeah. I think what Fitchburg's proposing
[1:57:24]
is just a flat number on your utility
[1:57:26]
bill based on single family
[1:57:27]
[clears throat] or
[1:57:29]
>> Yep.
[1:57:29]
>> multi family.
[1:57:30]
>> It would mirror probably our street
[1:57:32]
light charge a little bit.
[1:57:35]
>> Anybody else?
[1:57:38]
>> Rick,
[1:57:39]
>> um I just want to say thanks for uh
[1:57:42]
putting together the budget again. uh
[1:57:45]
really uh detailed um have a lot of
[1:57:48]
information that I'm trying to still
[1:57:49]
absorb, but do appreciate the fact that
[1:57:52]
you kind of figure uh explain more about
[1:57:55]
the 2.5% number versus doing a straight
[1:57:58]
up um increase for employees,
[1:58:02]
70% of uh the budget, yes, 85% of the
[1:58:06]
budget, yes, this is a service budget,
[1:58:08]
like you said. I think I want that
[1:58:11]
number to be that percentage. It just
[1:58:13]
goes to show again how bare bones we are
[1:58:16]
with overhead so to speak as an
[1:58:18]
organization and I can appreciate that
[1:58:21]
and that we're at our limits. I will say
[1:58:23]
that with all the discussion you were
[1:58:25]
having about uh the HR director position
[1:58:28]
and waiting until the uh July, I would
[1:58:33]
really like to see if we could find a
[1:58:35]
way to um bring that person in sooner if
[1:58:38]
possible, April 1 only in that there's a
[1:58:42]
lot of evidence that you're bringing up
[1:58:44]
that that could be actually cost
[1:58:46]
effective in terms of you know some some
[1:58:50]
opportunity that we might have for that
[1:58:52]
person to be able to uh spend more time
[1:58:56]
getting insight with what's going on
[1:58:58]
right now. And we were talking about
[1:59:00]
doing a an employee survey. You can see
[1:59:02]
how valuable these check-in these annual
[1:59:04]
check-ins are being able to get that
[1:59:06]
started sooner so that it can help
[1:59:08]
inform the 28 budget potentially
[1:59:11]
especially um also just being able to
[1:59:13]
potentially give you more time to think
[1:59:15]
about that community development and
[1:59:17]
that position coming forward. So that's
[1:59:19]
the main thing I wanted to mention is
[1:59:21]
just to consider moving that forward.
[1:59:23]
Okay, Tom,
[1:59:25]
>> I just
[1:59:27]
my my general thoughts followed along the lines of what Rick was talking
[1:59:31]
about. If we can find a way to pull that
[1:59:34]
HR position even forward a couple
[1:59:37]
months, it seemed that was one of the
[1:59:39]
areas and one of the identifiers for u
[1:59:42]
relieving some of the pressure and the difficulties that our staff was fa
[1:59:46]
facing. I know I've talked with you even
[1:59:49]
in I I noticed that a village
[1:59:51]
administrator wasn't one of the lines on
[1:59:53]
the the stress levels on there. Um, but
[1:59:57]
I guess having worked with on a couple
[1:59:59]
of new hires this year and uh watching
[2:00:03]
that process and watching what people go
[2:00:05]
through in relationship to just
[2:00:08]
onboarding somebody and bringing them in
[2:00:10]
and all of that. I mean, it's a huge drain on and I think one of your favorite expressions that we have a
[2:00:18]
lot of people who are doing that job
[2:00:19]
right now, but it's their tertiary job.
[2:00:21]
It's the last thing on the list that
[2:00:23]
they're going to do today and it
[2:00:26]
Can you put it on the last list? Yeah,
[2:00:28]
we're getting some of that done, but
[2:00:30]
it's probably not being done
[2:00:33]
as well as it could be. And I guess I
[2:00:35]
would I would lean towards
[2:00:38]
even just even if it's just a few months
[2:00:40]
seeing how we could and again, this is
[2:00:43]
on a wish list kind of basis. I
[2:00:44]
understand the realities that we're
[2:00:46]
dealing with here, but uh um and I guess
[2:00:49]
then then it starts looking forward
[2:00:51]
where what are the other stress areas?
[2:00:53]
and then you know looking at the next
[2:00:56]
year where where and where how can we
[2:00:58]
you know time those things in too. So
[2:01:01]
[clears throat] those are at least my
[2:01:02]
thoughts right now.
[2:01:06]
» Um I echo what everyone else is saying.
[2:01:09]
I do agree I pushed on the uh worksheets
[2:01:13]
before we did this. They are very
[2:01:15]
valuable. I'm glad that you um continued
[2:01:18]
that. I think that was good insight. Um,
[2:01:20]
I also just wanted to touch on some good
[2:01:23]
great news in my mind. And part of this
[2:01:26]
comes from my um, time on the library
[2:01:29]
board. And I don't we don't need to
[2:01:31]
belabor this tonight, but I do think
[2:01:33]
that maybe we should touch on it in the
[2:01:34]
next meeting just so that the board is
[2:01:36]
aware that um the libraries budget is
[2:01:39]
seeing a large increase in the
[2:01:41]
contributions from the counties um
[2:01:45]
because of the usage that we're seeing
[2:01:47]
and and the growth that we've had in the
[2:01:50]
building and the um circulation. And um
[2:01:54]
it's a huge testament to um Jennifer and
[2:01:58]
how she's managing that budget. Um she's
[2:02:02]
um I think using that increase really
[2:02:04]
responsively and um also like following
[2:02:08]
the guidelines of what the board had set
[2:02:11]
um at the beginning of this this budget
[2:02:13]
cycle. Um, so again, we don't need to be
[2:02:15]
labored and get into it, but I do think
[2:02:16]
that the board should know that the
[2:02:18]
library is is seeing a great increase
[2:02:21]
and um, you know, with growth comes some
[2:02:24]
of that benefit. So, we appreciate that
[2:02:28]
>> else.
[2:02:31]
All right. Thank you, Martin. [sighs]
[2:02:33]
Moving on.
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Uh, item 10, reports of village
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officers, department heads, and
[2:02:40]
consultants. This is for information
[2:02:41]
only. In your packet, village
[2:02:44]
administrator report.
[2:02:48]
Uh the southern southern dank county
[2:02:50]
shared fire EMS study update dated
[2:02:54]
September 18th
[2:02:57]
and the Oregon Police Department 2025
[2:03:00]
annual report. Anything to add, Chief?
[2:03:02]
>> Yeah, if you don't mind.
[2:03:03]
>> Sure.
[2:03:06]
>> I just want to highlight a few things in
[2:03:08]
2025. That was uh year of growth is best
[2:03:11]
if I could sum it up. Um sorry I know
[2:03:15]
report it's long. I I wish it could be
[2:03:17]
one to two pages but it serves a couple
[2:03:19]
different purposes. Uh number one is to
[2:03:22]
keep obviously all of you informed of
[2:03:23]
how our year went uh where we were where
[2:03:26]
we're headed. Uh but it serves as
[2:03:29]
actually a great uh document as part of
[2:03:31]
our accreditation status. Our assessors
[2:03:33]
come in and they look at this very
[2:03:34]
closely. Um, we have found it's actually
[2:03:37]
a really strong recruitment tool. Uh,
[2:03:39]
we're looking for people who are serious
[2:03:41]
about serving in our community and we
[2:03:43]
find that the ones that truly are
[2:03:45]
serious have read this from cover to
[2:03:47]
cover for at least three to five years.
[2:03:50]
So, it's been a great recruitment tool.
[2:03:53]
Normally, we just get, hey, we watched a
[2:03:54]
great recruitment video, but then all of
[2:03:56]
a sudden, when you hear, I was looking
[2:03:58]
through your annual report, too, and I,
[2:03:59]
you know, they'll actually cite certain
[2:04:00]
things. That's when we know we have
[2:04:02]
somebody that's actually doing their
[2:04:03]
homework. Um,
[2:04:06]
it also just informs the community. Um,
[2:04:09]
we have it on display in our lobby.
[2:04:11]
People come in and they'll be waiting
[2:04:12]
for an officer. They can read this while
[2:04:14]
they're waiting to come learn more about
[2:04:16]
us if they want. Um, I'll just quickly
[2:04:20]
go over some of these things. Uh, the
[2:04:21]
achievements we had in 2025, we did get
[2:04:24]
fully accredited uh through WY Egg. Uh,
[2:04:28]
that's a like they come in and they came
[2:04:31]
in in 2025. They looked at all of our
[2:04:33]
policies to make sure they were to a
[2:04:35]
standard that um meets WY's
[2:04:37]
requirements, but then also for those
[2:04:40]
years of 2022 through 2025, we actually
[2:04:43]
have to show physical proof that we are
[2:04:45]
following those policies each year. Um
[2:04:49]
the two officer minimum obviously
[2:04:51]
remains a top priority for us. It's
[2:04:52]
ongoing. Um we've increased our efforts
[2:04:56]
for recruitment. We've made some
[2:04:57]
tremendous progress and it's still
[2:05:00]
ongoing.
[2:05:02]
uh the self-defense program. Um we
[2:05:05]
anticipated it would happen in 2026.
[2:05:08]
2025 was just a a big development year
[2:05:10]
for us. So um you'll see later in uh
[2:05:15]
well we were able to accomplish in 26 or
[2:05:17]
goal set. We've already had our first
[2:05:19]
class. It was received very well. We got
[2:05:21]
a lot of compliments. Um and we're
[2:05:23]
trying to get one more class on the
[2:05:24]
books before the end of the year.
[2:05:27]
um the implementation of the UTV program
[2:05:30]
that has turned out to be far more
[2:05:33]
successful than I thought it would be.
[2:05:36]
Uh we're able to get out on the walking
[2:05:37]
paths and bike paths more often. People
[2:05:40]
are appreciating it, feel a little safer
[2:05:42]
every once in a while being an officer
[2:05:44]
riding around. Um we want people out on
[2:05:47]
those paths feeling safe using them. Uh
[2:05:49]
but secondly, and I've even used it
[2:05:51]
myself uh for these ebike issues, once
[2:05:55]
the kids know we're out there on that uh UTV and we can get into
[2:05:59]
different tighter areas, they tend to
[2:06:01]
behave a little bit more and we have
[2:06:03]
some conversations even with ones that
[2:06:04]
are uh behaving well on the ebikes, we
[2:06:08]
stop and compliment them. Um but also
[2:06:10]
with the UTV program, we use that to
[2:06:12]
respond to any sort of wooded area. An
[2:06:15]
example would be one of our schools.
[2:06:17]
Many of our schools are have some sort
[2:06:19]
of wooded area next to them. Uh we can
[2:06:22]
get into that and make sure there's no
[2:06:23]
threat in those areas in a matter of
[2:06:25]
seconds versus a squad and getting out
[2:06:27]
on foot. Uh equipping squads with the
[2:06:30]
rifle rated ballistic shields. Uh that's
[2:06:33]
been successfully completed and we've
[2:06:35]
upgraded all of our portable radios. Uh
[2:06:38]
the goals for 2026, uh staff retention
[2:06:41]
top priority. Uh we've we've done a lot
[2:06:44]
of work in 2025 to get fully staffed. We
[2:06:46]
want to make sure we stay there. We have
[2:06:47]
good people. We want to keep them uh
[2:06:50]
workforce development with that younger
[2:06:52]
staff. They need to be developed. Uh so
[2:06:55]
we've been working really hard to get
[2:06:57]
more training and really work more as a
[2:07:00]
team through the training. So we've been
[2:07:01]
doing a lot of in-house training.
[2:07:04]
Um I already talked about the women's
[2:07:06]
self-defense and then the school
[2:07:08]
resource officer agreement. Uh we're
[2:07:10]
still in talks with the school, so
[2:07:12]
that's an ongoing project.
[2:07:15]
Um, new hires is an area I want to focus
[2:07:17]
on quite a bit. Uh, we hired five people
[2:07:20]
in 2025.
[2:07:22]
Um, that's a lot. Uh, I can't put five
[2:07:26]
officers in a squad with one field
[2:07:29]
training officer.
[2:07:30]
>> So, it's [clears throat] like we got to
[2:07:31]
divide and conquer. Um, so just to give
[2:07:33]
you an idea, every single one of those
[2:07:36]
officers had to go through four and a
[2:07:37]
half months of uh the police academy.
[2:07:41]
Um,
[2:07:44]
with that said, that's five spots that
[2:07:47]
we got to wait and cover until we can
[2:07:49]
get them ready to go. The same with
[2:07:52]
three months for field training. So, it
[2:07:54]
really uh drained our instructors, our
[2:07:58]
FTO's, and if if that question is still
[2:08:01]
out there, why in the world was the
[2:08:02]
chief the SRO? That's one of the
[2:08:04]
reasons. Um, I freed up all my FTO's, my
[2:08:07]
instructors to get directly to these new
[2:08:10]
hires so we can get them up and
[2:08:11]
onboarded as soon as possible. Um,
[2:08:14]
they've all been fantastic. They've
[2:08:17]
they're off and running and they're
[2:08:18]
doing great. So, really happy to have
[2:08:20]
them join the team. Um, as I said, some
[2:08:23]
of us had some of the staff really had
[2:08:25]
to step up into new roles. So, in 2025,
[2:08:28]
we pushed uh a lot of our staff into
[2:08:31]
some more added roles. Uh, so Officer
[2:08:35]
Joel CR, he was our former school
[2:08:36]
resource officer. He was assigned
[2:08:38]
detective. He's doing a phenomenal job.
[2:08:40]
Uh, Ted Gilbertson, he's one of our main
[2:08:42]
instructors in 2025. He's already an
[2:08:45]
instructor in I think four or five other
[2:08:46]
disciplines, but we added uh taser
[2:08:49]
instructor and then a ballistic shield
[2:08:51]
instructor. So, the ballistic shield is
[2:08:54]
obviously the the large shield that we
[2:08:56]
use to keep ourselves safe. Um there's a
[2:08:59]
lot of training that goes into how an op
[2:09:01]
an officer approaches using that while
[2:09:03]
still being able to use force when
[2:09:04]
necessary or deescalate.
[2:09:07]
Uh officer Anheimer um he is become one
[2:09:10]
of our AR-15 armor. So every year we do
[2:09:13]
a full inspection of every single uh
[2:09:15]
firearm including our AR rifles to make
[2:09:18]
sure they're properly functioning and
[2:09:20]
well maintained. Um,
[2:09:23]
Detective Ty and Officer Anheimer uh
[2:09:27]
became drone operators. So, I believe
[2:09:29]
now we have six drone operators. Uh,
[2:09:32]
Sergeant Shuy took on an assignment
[2:09:34]
nobody ever wants, and that's the
[2:09:35]
defense and arrest tactics instructor.
[2:09:38]
Uh, he has to put on the big padded
[2:09:41]
outfit and get beat up by a bunch of
[2:09:43]
cops. So, we make sure we're fully
[2:09:45]
trained and ready to take on combative
[2:09:46]
people. Um, he was willing to do it. He
[2:09:49]
was the only one and I'm very grateful
[2:09:51]
for it. He also added on to his resume
[2:09:54]
here uh field training officer. So he's
[2:09:56]
been uh helping out with that as well.
[2:09:59]
Uh we needed another firearms
[2:10:00]
instructor. Uh so I I signed up for
[2:10:03]
that. And then nobody really wants to be
[2:10:05]
the law enforcement physical fitness
[2:10:07]
assessor.
[2:10:09]
So I took that one on. Um that's where
[2:10:11]
before anyone can go through the
[2:10:13]
academy, they have to pass a physical
[2:10:15]
fitness test. And so you have to go
[2:10:18]
through a training, learn the system,
[2:10:20]
know it inside and out, and then be able
[2:10:21]
to certify those that either pass or
[2:10:23]
fail the test. So I'm that person now.
[2:10:28]
Um, so other things we've added on, uh,
[2:10:31]
just real quick, calls for service, we
[2:10:33]
had 9,388.
[2:10:35]
That's it. Slightly dropped from prior
[2:10:37]
years. Reason being, we were five
[2:10:39]
officers down trying to climb back up
[2:10:41]
the hill. Um that decline is as you
[2:10:44]
heard from the operational study, you
[2:10:47]
don't have officers out there looking
[2:10:48]
for traffic. Those numbers start to
[2:10:49]
drop. They've increased now. Um out of
[2:10:53]
those calls for service though, we only
[2:10:55]
had two citizen complaints received and
[2:10:58]
both were exonerated. And we have a
[2:11:00]
policy. We take every complaint
[2:11:01]
seriously, fully document it, look into
[2:11:04]
it, investigate it, and it not only is
[2:11:06]
investigated by the lieutenant, but then
[2:11:08]
he turns all facts over to me and I do a
[2:11:10]
second review of everything. uh the
[2:11:12]
definitions of uh how what the outcome
[2:11:15]
is for each of these complaints is in
[2:11:17]
there, but for exonerated, it's
[2:11:19]
investigation indicated the incident
[2:11:20]
occurred but was justified, lawful, and
[2:11:22]
proper under circumstances.
[2:11:25]
Um use of force incidents, again, out of
[2:11:28]
those 9,388
[2:11:30]
calls for service, we only had 20 use of
[2:11:33]
force incidents.
[2:11:34]
Um, and then there's a graph on that
[2:11:37]
page, but 50% of those were escort
[2:11:42]
compliance holds, and that's where we
[2:11:43]
have to still while standing mostly. We
[2:11:46]
put their hands behind their back to get
[2:11:47]
them into handcuffs because they're
[2:11:49]
[snorts] not cooperating. Um, there was
[2:11:53]
uh obviously no firearms discharged at a
[2:11:56]
person. Uh,
[2:11:58]
I believe we had one taser deployment.
[2:12:03]
Um,
[2:12:05]
and that was about it. Uh, pretty
[2:12:07]
standard from year to year. Um, in here,
[2:12:12]
most people aren't interested in this
[2:12:13]
stuff, but we added in, uh, is our
[2:12:17]
Wisconsin uniform crime reporting
[2:12:18]
numbers, uh, that we're required to
[2:12:20]
report. And then, uh, people like to
[2:12:23]
know what our training looks like. Uh,
[2:12:25]
we take our training very seriously. Uh
[2:12:27]
we appreciate the investment the village
[2:12:29]
gives in our officers uh sending them to
[2:12:32]
great training. So there's just some
[2:12:34]
photos in there of that.
[2:12:37]
Uh I tried to squeeze it all in one page
[2:12:39]
for drone K9 and SRO. Gives you an idea
[2:12:43]
of the numbers for the K9 I'm sorry the
[2:12:46]
SRO
[2:12:48]
assignment. Um the K9 assignment is
[2:12:52]
quite active. 61 deployments and then it
[2:12:54]
breaks it down with arrests, people
[2:12:56]
found. He found Archie found 10 people
[2:13:00]
uh whether they were running from law
[2:13:01]
enforcement, lost or confused. Um and
[2:13:06]
then also our drone unit. Um yeah.
[2:13:10]
>> Um our drone unit. Just showing you how
[2:13:12]
often we're using that. Again, that's
[2:13:14]
another uh investment we're we're
[2:13:16]
grateful village um put into this
[2:13:19]
because it has been monumental. You
[2:13:22]
know, we're a smaller department.
[2:13:23]
Resources are limited and being able to
[2:13:26]
get a drone up in the air and give us so
[2:13:27]
much information so quickly covering
[2:13:29]
such a broad area, especially with the
[2:13:32]
newest drone. Um number one, it's
[2:13:34]
getting used. Number two, it's very
[2:13:37]
successful. And number three, it's um
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probably got the most interest interest
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from all of my staff. This is something
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they all want to be a part of. Um they
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see the benefit in it and they want to
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um be a part of the team.
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Um the next one is just awards. If
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you're interested in knowing what awards
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were given out in 2025,
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those are there. And we're always
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grateful Optimus Club um recognizes one
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of our officers for officer of the year.
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Uh, and then just the last page about
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community engagement. Um, even when five
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officers down, it's not going to keep us
[2:14:13]
from being engaged with our community in
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these positive ways. That's honestly
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what I think attracts many people to our
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department to want to work for our
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community. But something we're proud of
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in the middle, uh, the Oregon area
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Chamber of Commerce recognized us and
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gave us an award for community impact.
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So, very much appreciate that. Uh, happy
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to take any questions. [clears throat]
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It's hard to follow the budget
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conversation,
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[laughter]
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>> but happy to take any questions.
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>> Anyone?
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Okay, thank you very much, Chief.
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Let's see. Uh item 11, announcements and
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miscellaneous business. A announcements,
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comments, communications, upcoming
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meetings, and events and miscellaneous
[2:14:58]
business. Uh department heads [snorts]
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nothing there. Okay, village board
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members.
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Uh, Lynn,
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>> I'm going to do it this one and the next
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one because two announcements is better
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than one. Um, trunk or treat is taking
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place this month on Saturday, October
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31st. It's the same day as actual
[2:15:21]
trick-or-treating. But if you don't want
[2:15:22]
to take your kids out in the evening,
[2:15:24]
take them out in the morning and call it
[2:15:25]
done. Right? [laughter]
[2:15:27]
>> That's what I'm going with. That's how
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I'm attempting.
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>> I don't think that's going to work.
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>> Um, thank you for the optimism. Um,
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we'll see if I can convince them. There
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will be a uh police department has
[2:15:37]
signed up. The fire department has
[2:15:38]
signed up. Um, some village uh board
[2:15:42]
members have signed up as well as
[2:15:43]
departments have signed up. So, um, I
[2:15:46]
think the turnout will be good. Um,
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there is still opportunity for people to
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sign up um for spots. Village board or
[2:15:53]
area businesses. Um, but to the general
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public, bring your kids 10 to noon on
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the 31st for trunk or treat here at the
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village hall.
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Okay, anybody else?
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Uh, item
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11B, future agenda items. Anyone?
[2:16:11]
Okay. [snorts]
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Uh, item 12, discussion, possible action
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regarding the negotiation of the school
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resource officer program agreement with
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the Oregon School District. The village
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board may convene in close session
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pursuant to Wisconsin statutes 19.851E,
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851E. Deliberating or negotiating the
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purchasing of public properties, the
[2:16:32]
investment of public funds, or
[2:16:34]
conducting other specified public
[2:16:36]
business whenever competitive or
[2:16:38]
bargaining reasons required a close
[2:16:40]
session for the purpose of deliberating
[2:16:43]
and developing negoti negotiation
[2:16:45]
[clears throat]
[2:16:45]
strategy for the school resource officer
[2:16:49]
program agreement with the Oregon school
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district. The village board may convene
[2:16:53]
an open session for the purpose of
[2:16:54]
taking action on any matter discussed in
[2:16:57]
close session as necessary appropriate.
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The chair would entertain a motion to
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Ker and Higgins. This is a vocal vote.
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>> Higgins,
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>> yes.
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>> Vanampen, yes.
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>> McDaniel,
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>> yes.
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>> Marks, yes.
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>> And Kirker,
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>> yes. We are in close session. Thank you.
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Feel free.