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and highly impacted students there at
Silver Peak and TEAK.
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» Um, is there any does the board want to
mention? As I go through these
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celebrations, I open it to the board so
they add their little two cents if
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they'd like to speak to that. We feel
like that was our first major decision
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as a board. So, so to see it come to
fruition for me was very
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just yay, we're doing it. we're we're on
the right track to to provide a a place
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a safe place for those students who are
highly impacted is I think it was a good
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first move for us.
>> I think just for the staff that I've
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talked to, they look at it as an
upgrade. They have more space. The
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building is full of light and it's just
going to be a great place.
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» And it was with Alfa School Dist
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that was key, right? Because the last
number of years that has been a specific
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ours
was what would happen to the
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if we lost those right facilities that
they said and yes so I just want to I
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was just
waiting that be your first act that
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really calmed a lot of some of that that
was put out there and I would say it set
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a tone well for you know how we're going
to how we're going proceed.
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» That's
Yeah, I just wanted to say the name
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wasn't fighting until the principal
why he liked the name of silver uh
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silver key because silver is a metal but
is refined and it looks brighter and
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brighter and that's kind of what they're
doing with these young kids. And yeah,
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and it's hard to go through what they're
doing just like it is when you're
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refining silver and reaching your peaks.
and they just made me love the name
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more. It's hard for me to get away from
it being Sharon El. So, if anybody can
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fit around and love the name.
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Great.
Um, okay. We also signed our
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transportation memo under memo of
understanding with the absentee school
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district. um that was done at our last
board meeting and that was brought to a
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short-term end the discussion about
where to place transportation
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facilities. So, we we're thrilled with
that. It's a three-year agreement with
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the potential to extend. Um we think
it'll be great that we have our
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transportation folks and their
transportation folks working side by
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side and um and working through those
issues together. It it was really
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interesting how that came about because
initially there it was kind of this
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nogo. But as we hired people and these
these people worked with each other and
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they were able to see a need and come
together to come up with a solution uh
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was really really great. So um we're
excited about that. Any any board member
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comments on that?
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» Um I've had some questions. Are you what
is the flexibility with that? Are you
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guys still going to be able to dictate
your start time and Yes. How
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» do you want to talk to that at all? How
that's going to work with us operating
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the the trans transportation center
>> ownership
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» ownership of our our own schedule?
>> Yeah. So, uh they have about $2 million
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of inventory in parts. We have any
interest in that a portion and for the
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first two years there's about equal
value for it. We and we didn't even know
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where to start. We looked up the value
of a parking space that's electrified
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for a bus and took the bottom end of
that. And so we're giving up our
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interest in those parks.
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We just give our interest in the park.
They're also going to move a trailer
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onto the property for because there's
more office staff. So turn that into
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office space and then over that last
year the value of that trailer is about
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what the rent would be for that last
year. So we really don't pay any other
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than interest in the parts and giving up
the ownership of that trailer over the
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three years we're there. So it's it's
great for both. They're getting a little
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value out of the space they have plus
the trailer they training in. If we
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uh the other talked about is as we
opposed a two-year owners agreement
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perhaps we could even build a training
facility on the property and then
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continue they can continue to take
ownership of that training facility over
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the next decade but it may last for
quite some time without really any back
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and forth just value for the parts and
building. Renee tell me if I
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misunderstood your question but she was
interested in the the operation of it.
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dependency
independent of the
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» we'll get two we've hired our own
maintenance staff mechanics and we'll
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take over two and a half bays and we'll
just be independent
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uh the only thing that we'll share is
the service so there's a custodian that
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will share it doesn't make sense
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there and then there will be a service
full of service center people that will
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share those duties so they'll We ask
them each employees but we'll share 40%
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about of their contracts. The rest we're
apart from them. So we have our own
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mechanics, we have our own
administration, our own routers that
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will work independent from that.
Drivers, buses, all independent except
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for those service people in that
custodian.
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» Yep.
>> That answer great. And this is I'll
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introduce this is Dave Mau is our um
who's assistant superintendent over
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operations. Was he were you at county?
Yeah,
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» I was. Yep. Great years.
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» Um, yeah. So, any any other board member
comments on our
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» I would just add it state the obvious.
This is a win-win. This is this is this
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is something and that I hope that extend
for ever. I I just don't see a need to
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have our own if right location wise
services both of our districts really
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well. There's enough space.
>> It's three blocks.
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» It's three block. Yeah. I mean, you
know,
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» it it just I mean, it just is a it's a
win-win. So, we're hopeful that we got
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any good things.
>> Were your wise to do the
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» Yeah. carry out cleaning well
>> and I would just add that one of the
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this particular is a big deal but I
think an underlying current we find that
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is high levels of trust between us and
Aspen Peak and they've been fantastic to
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work with if you watch the board meeting
tonight we do another that's we've
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already signed one for the alternative
schools we're going to sign another one
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tonight for the online portion of it
years and
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» adult ed
>> and adult ed and it just it just makes a
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huge difference that we have a great
relationship with.
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» Yeah. So
>> yeah, we're we're excited about those
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things. So um the other thing we have we
have finalized things which is our
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vision and values and um we'll be
talking about that a little bit later.
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So, I'm not going to spend a lot of time
on that, but you I think we we shared
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that with you guys to to be able to
review. And also, uh, in starting our
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discussion regarding school boundaries
and consolidations, we did a I think
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we've done a really great job in
involving our public early in this whole
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process. We started a we did a cluster
meeting, four cluster meetings in each
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of the high schools to um solicit
feedback and understanding and really
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have a conversation at tables with um
our parents and teachers,
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administrators,
um my uh at large constituents about
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what they would like to see the schools
in our district look like, what what
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constitutes a robust and thriving
school. So, we have kind of we've used
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AI to make this cute little graphic. Um,
so this is kind of what what we've come
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up with in conjunction with our our
community. So, we're excited about that.
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And we also announced our district
office is going to be located at
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approximately 500 North State Street in
London.
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that will it will it will allow us to
create a campus kind of like you guys
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have done here, right? You have this
this campus that houses so many of your
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services. We recognize the value of
having the value of proximity and so
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having all of our departments in one
building or on one campus is going to be
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phenomenal. If if you watched Alpine
just because of their size, Alpine has
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had to um space things out. They have
the this this special education office
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is where we're doing our board meetings.
That's in Lynon. They have the port.
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They've got CTV and American sport now
by the freeway. And so we are really
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looking forward to a campus that will
address everything that we'll able to
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I think it's going to be a reduction in
going to be an increase in use of time.
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There's not going to be as much time
spent in the cars driving to different
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meetings and stuff. I could see it it it
really saving us there and also
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» collaboration as well.
>> And what
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» collaboration?
>> Collaboration. Yeah. And the teams
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working together. Um
you're I mean in in their own little
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pockets and also collaboratively as as a
district. That's what we want to
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um model for our schools is
collaboration. So we're hopeful that
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this is going to be excited about that.
Also, I just wanted to mention we have
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done both of our hiring from Alpine
School District and we have a couple of
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hires that we've done from outside the
district, but um the way that things
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were set up, it it was a benefit to us
to hire and we had a willing pool of of
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people to draw from that needed needed
jobs. So, um I would say we're 80 or 90
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Joe 80 to 90%. Um, and these these
employees who are concurrently um,
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working for Alpine School District, we
have them for one day a week or about
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20% of their time right now. And then at
the at the turn of the quarter, we'll
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get them for an additional 20% or
another day and then we'll just get at
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each we get an additional amount of
their time and their jobs at AS are are
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winding down and things with us. So
um to kind of get the folks at Alpine
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School they are paying out.
Yeah. So that's kind of fun now. Yeah.
[11:12]
And kind of this is kind of a a more of
a shout out than a direction. Um but I
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feel like the last few years the ORM has
done really well and this person right
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back here Carrie has done a great job of
this is um always looking for
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efficiencies. Just recently, we had a
manager um quit and
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we split up her job to three people to
just see if that will work before just
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automatically.
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We've done that a few times. Sometimes
it works, but it doesn't.
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But if it comes through more of these
strategies
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well and I think we did that I mean
early days Joe did that with his
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creating his cabinet team. We recognized
the the value of having our assistant
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superintendent uh have more direct
contact with the school. So we
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eliminated the layer of supervisors.
Yeah, I noticed that that was a
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reactive. So, so we are that also um in
the recent days we've been talking with
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the other districts about actually doing
our own print shop and in our district
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um in Alpine, they've had a a higher
level admin in charge of the print shop.
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that so we will house that under a
different department and so those admins
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will handle that and you can hire um
less high operations there like that say
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I didn't I didn't I didn't want to say
that we're very aware of any because I
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have seen you doing that but I just
wanted to kind of more of a shout out to
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some of our folks
>> and kind of what we have to do nowadays
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with our budgets
>> that's all I have
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» yeah I was just going to mention on the
district office that we're starting. The
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funding from that is coming from a
building fund that Alpine has kind of
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built up. So, it's not from any new bond
or it's money that's available only for
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capital that we're utilizing from the
federal.
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» Good point. Thank you.
>> Yes.
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» Thank you.
>> We're not having the bond for that. It's
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great.
>> We're going on to the next item.
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Um just because I know almost everybody
here doesn't mean everybody else does.
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Okay, let's do quick introductions.
Let's start. I'll start and then we'll
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just go around and then
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I'm car by the mayor
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at school district assistant
superintendent over teaching and
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learning secondary and communications.
See, we're combining.
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» There you go. I knew it.
Karen Carter,
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» Joe Jensen, superintendent, Tempogus.
>> Jason Sunberg, business administrator.
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» Excuse me. Tyler Bigu, director of
communications and foundation.
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» Pete Wley, city of board communications.
>> And Dave Mau, operations,
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» Rex, school board. I represent form
area.
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» David Smith, school board, and I
represent the west of the freeway orum
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and all of Vineyard.
Wilson, uh, school board. I represent
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kind of the Mountain View area and the
surrounding elementary
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board member representing South
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Korean
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school board and I represent
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[clears throat]
>> Jman
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um board president and I represent all
of Lynden and RPG that guy doesn't
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represent South
>> Jon Myers assistant fire chief for fire
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department
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office,
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community services for lawy
>> Steve Earl, city attorney.
[15:39]
» Brandon Nelson, CFO
begin, director of community.
[15:45]
» Harry, deputy city manager.
>> Ryan Clark, assistant city manager.
[15:54]
I took a bite. So did I. [laughter]
>> Okay.
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» Yeah. Actually, we're going to change
this
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value. We're going to turn the time over
to Sterling.
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» Oh,
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sorry, Teresa.
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» So, we're gonna have um Sterling Hilton
um talk about our vision and values.
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Um yeah, so we we we've distributed our
our current mentioned our living
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document over present values and we just
think it's worth taking a minute or two
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to share with you
um our process as well as some of the
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content of this vision of value because
it really is
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more than just a document that is nice.
It's really guiding everything that we
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do, how we approach things and what
things we approach. And so I think it be
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um it might just be worth noting that we
created this vision of value statements
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over
how long months, seven months. Um we
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board members actually started talking
about vision.
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That was actually one of our first
conversations after we were sworn in.
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Um, we realized that we needed some kind
of a vision to help guide our efforts as
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we were looking to who were we going to
hire as our superintendent and as our
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business manager.
We we didn't have anything nearly as
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well developed together, but we did
start talking about what's important to
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us. What where are our commonalities?
Where do we go? How are we going to be
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working together? And we had the luxury
of this year and a half of we're
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creating something. So we really aren't
like or city coming into having a vision
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that's already been established or that
sort of thing that adopt. We we have the
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responsibility but also the luxury of
saying who are we? What do we want to
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be? And so that's that's what this
captures for. I think it captures very
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nicely about how we see ourselves and
what we want to accomplish and what's
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important to us. Um it wasn't just us.
Uh as we drafted this uh our first
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draft, um we then went out and felt that
it was really important that we speak to
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all of our stakeholders. And so we met
with every single school except one.
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That was simply because of timing and
arrangement. But 28 of our 29 schools,
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we went to those schools. We met at four
meetings. We met with
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parents. Um we met with the students. We
met with the teachers and we met with
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the administration and we spoke to them
and gave them our draft, invited them to
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give a badge to share what them did that
28 times over 100 meetings and we then
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took all of that information and revised
and input and
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then through study sessions finally came
to a point where I say finally pulled.
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There's no longer a draft written across
fence. It's now voted on it. It is a
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it's approved, but it is living. So,
we're not it when we when we find things
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that we want to add to or tweak or
whatever, we are very willing to do
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that.
So, I think that process that I just
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described um really represents and shows
if you look at the last bullet point on
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the values, I think it illustrates that
we truly do value the perspectives and
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experiences of students, educators,
parents, and community. Um, and it
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illustrates that these values aren't
just words, but they guide
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who we are and how we operate and how we
plan to operate and interact. and that
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it's not just us as a board. This isn't
just our board's vision and values, but
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it is our district's
vision and values.
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» So, it's a collective. I think it'd be
really interesting
[20:03]
before I open up to any questions that
you might have, but I would love for
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each of our board members, they wouldn't
mind to just quickly, and I know I say
[20:12]
that quickly because I've been in study
sessions with us,
[20:16]
but if you would quickly identify
any aspect of the vision or values
[20:22]
[clears throat] that is that resonates
with you that
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this really is important and it captures
valuable. Could we do that?
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» Yeah. Grace.
>> Grace, do you want to start?
[20:36]
» Um, I really like the joyful, thriving
students. I think we all want our kids
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to be happy and joyful and but it means
more than just um [clears throat]
[20:47]
because like some teachers, we got some
feedback of, oh, you can't make somebody
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be happy. But if they're really learning
and they're really I think they joyful
[20:58]
is is something that just goes a long
way. So that's I I think everybody
[21:04]
works.
>> Uh I'll take two if that's okay. The
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sixth bullet point at the bottom the
back end of that sentence always assumes
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goodwill. I think it's so easy to make a
judgment in your mind and
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» assume goodwill. That's going to be a
value that we hold. The other one is in
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the rectangle.
The first part of the rectangle under
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no. I'm a former math teacher. It
resonates with me always.
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Have a little tickle in my throat, so
I'm going to test my voice here. But I
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really love continuous learning and
improvement. I think when whenever we're
[21:42]
standing still, um it's not a good place
to be. So I'm just I think as a board
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we're interested in continuously finding
new ways to do things better both
[21:54]
professionally and for us.
[21:58]
My value that stands out to me is we
value collaboration and accountability
[22:03]
and uh with our and especially with our
cities
[22:08]
within our boundaries. That's why we're
here today.
[22:13]
I I'm going to speak. I I love the high
levels of genuine learning. For me, that
[22:19]
is an articulation of something that we
are aspiring to um achieve and to work
[22:26]
towards for our students. It's all about
those high levels of learning for and
[22:32]
belonging. That's a new that was a
phrase that came in and belonging for
[22:36]
each. see what
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» I really like the fact that yes,
children need to know things and school,
[22:48]
but we're really working to help them
become and um these uh character traits
[22:54]
and citizenship
um traits are going to help them in
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their lifelong learning and um lifelong
living in in society.
[23:06]
» [clears throat]
>> It's always nerve-wracking to go last
[23:08]
because I was afraid you guys were going
to steal mine, but um we have shared
[23:11]
ones.
>> Mine is together. We That's That's my
[23:15]
favorite part of the whole vision and
value statement is those first two
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[laughter]
>> because it just speaks to the fact that
[23:22]
we recognize as a board that this is a
this is a community effort. It's not
[23:27]
just us. It's not together, but it can
be. It's together. We the board, but
[23:31]
it's also together. We our district
together. we are community and together
[23:36]
we um and so I've really embraced that
idea that education is a community
[23:44]
effort and needs to be um supported by
the community but also it needs to be
[23:50]
shaped by our community. So grateful for
that
[23:53]
» and Joe and Jason and anyone else. Now I
I didn't intentionally believe that
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comprehension
[24:10]
and I've been here for a couple of
months but it's been really fun for me
[24:12]
to watch this started before me and it
hasn't changed a lot. They might feel
[24:17]
like it changed a lot because they were
really doing a lot of work with it. But
[24:20]
as new people have joined the team, you
know, really in some cases because they
[24:24]
made a commitment to join the team
later. But I reflect on these with them
[24:28]
because what I make sure they know is
that this group believes it and lives
[24:33]
like they actually do. I try to
emphasize that within the team and I
[24:38]
think in public service, right, you feel
the same thing. Sometimes people move
[24:40]
out. They're like, "Oh, who are these
people? What are they trying to do to
[24:42]
us?" And we are saying together we and
and we emphasize these elements of like
[24:47]
always assuming goodwill and
collaboration and and it's just very
[24:50]
impressive like I said to join later in
the process but I can just want to full
[24:55]
text right they live by these values and
all the meetings and interactions I've
[24:58]
had with them.
>> Great. Yeah. So any questions around our
[25:03]
vision and values or comments? We'd love
to
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collaborate with you around.
>> Um it's it's very impressive. I I can
[25:11]
tell how much you care about it and I I
just think setting that intentionality
[25:16]
right up front uh has all kinds of
positive music
[25:20]
that been happening with you. I
particularly love the motto the
[25:27]
I think that's very clever. My question
is
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» we'll give credit to Sterling for that.
I love it.
[25:37]
My question is um with that process of
stakeholder engagement which I'm has
[25:42]
multiple purposes I'm sure but one of
those purposes was to receive feedback
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and to change uh things for that um what
changed because all that
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you
>> specifically
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» high level
>> high level yeah high level belonging and
[26:01]
that's where I stumbled genuine
uh through high levels of genuine
[26:04]
learning. That's what he added and
belonged and that our
[26:11]
visit to those schools and the students
added that really really important to
[26:16]
the students that that they
that was there and so we that was added.
[26:22]
Um and then also safety. If you look
down to the first bullet point, we value
[26:27]
student and educator safety and
well-being. safety was not a word there
[26:32]
through a lot of the other things wasn't
there and again that was another thing
[26:35]
that came from students and stakeholders
that said nope this is really important
[26:40]
to us and so that came into it and then
>> empathy
[26:44]
» yeah and then we then if you want to
look under the B column there were
[26:48]
several things that um changed several
there were things that changed there we
[26:52]
added selfmastery that was there we
added empathy um
[26:56]
» this was it it was interesting because
that was at every junior I think we went
[26:59]
to the kids,
>> junior high kids were the ones that said
[27:02]
there's not kindness that's here
>> that's missing.
[27:06]
» And so we phrased it as empathy instead
of
[27:09]
» had a great discussion around that and
felt like empathy captured, you know,
[27:13]
what we were what
>> it was great. It was great to see
[27:15]
especially the students. I think the
students
[27:19]
sessions were
>> I love this. Can I just say I love this
[27:22]
and I have to tell this just funny
little game. did junior high. My kids
[27:26]
when they first went, my oldest, we were
at Canyon View, which the main hall can
[27:31]
be a little packed between classes,
right? And I went in the office to check
[27:35]
out one of my kids and the the aid the
the office staff um said, "Well, I'll
[27:41]
just go out and watch for said to me,
oh, I don't think you want to go out."
[27:47]
And my kids would come home and say, "I
don't get it. for bumping into each
[27:52]
other and not saying excuse me, you
know, and it just that whole little
[27:57]
empathy for for just those simple little
things. And I see this reflected in your
[28:01]
goals here, right? To teach that
kindness. And I love it because yeah,
[28:07]
you you have to learn that sometimes you
forget. So, thank you.
[28:12]
» And I liked that you went to 28 schools
and talked to the students. Okay. I'm
[28:20]
picturing and I'm going I know a
kindergartener isn't going to say a
[28:23]
whole lot now just but but the idea of
how respectful that is even if
[28:30]
[clears throat] the students were
younger junior high and high school I
[28:33]
you talk and that's very respectful
recognizing who you truly serving and
[28:38]
and I really appreciate that you took
the time at the each school to visit
[28:42]
with student or maybe did I okay
>> students at each students at each at
[28:48]
each school
>> it was kind fun as when students figured
[28:51]
out who was there
>> and that we had
[28:54]
» well they started to talk and it became
very clear the number one thing was
[28:58]
bring back true moo milk [laughter]
[29:02]
» fruit moo milk did not make it to our
vision
[29:05]
our
>> so we pass that information we'll pass
[29:07]
that information along
>> nutritional
[29:10]
pizza or Chick-fil-A nuggets
>> that's awesome and I really appreciate
[29:14]
you taking the time to engage the
students as well thank you
[29:20]
» and Joe, this had you written. I worked
with Joe at school community council at
[29:23]
Tim. I really appreciate I can see I
mean I know it was the board for
[29:28]
» make it clear it was the board for the
board
[29:33]
who was eight or nine
we were sworn in.
[29:36]
» I guess I feel like I guess I [laughter]
>> like you'll mesh well because I see a
[29:41]
lot of Joe in this too and so I think
you hired the right guy then for for
[29:45]
what
>> I think you did the I think we did.
[29:50]
Okay, I'll let you discuss that after.
[29:55]
» Thank you. This you can hold us to this.
This can inform you. This is this is who
[30:00]
we are. This is what we're about and it
is living and as we improve and find
[30:05]
ways that we can improve upon it, we're
going to change it as well. But it will
[30:09]
guide us.
>> All right. Thank you.
[30:15]
Next item is uh Jansen Robust School.
>> Okay. Uh Len, it's it's interesting you
[30:25]
say that because I only applied for one
district. Um and that's because of this.
[30:33]
I I hired was kind of amazing. But I
only I only applied for one district
[30:41]
because of who was elected. Um, and this
board genuinely lives these. I'll echo
[30:48]
what Tyler said. Yeah, I what I've
observed it really is together we. Not
[30:53]
just together we the board, not just
together we keep in schools, but
[30:58]
together we that's why we're here today,
right? It's why we're trying to make
[31:03]
sure we have great relationships with
all four horse cities, but also with
[31:08]
parent as well that that parents, you
know, can can trust what we're doing,
[31:13]
that kind of thing. So, I'll just point
to the last value actually even the last
[31:18]
three uh inherent transparency, open
communication, and valuing the
[31:24]
perspectives and experiences of
students, educators, parents, and
[31:27]
community members because that's what
drove this document. If you look at this
[31:31]
document, we after we did the 28 visits
during the summer, we started to say
[31:38]
we're not going to start our massive
boundary study, right, with asking the
[31:44]
question, what schools need to close.
We're going to start our boundary study
[31:48]
by saying, what do we want our schools
to be, right? What do we want each
[31:55]
student to experience in their school?
And so we actually went out to the
[32:02]
community again. We did a cluster
meeting at each of the high schools. Um,
[32:07]
and we had great attendance. There were
upwards of 250 people between those four
[32:12]
cluster meetings. And really it was
workshop style. It was not us telling
[32:18]
them what they want. It was us asking
what do you want in your schools? Right?
[32:25]
And this is kind of a compilation of
that. We also then took it to our
[32:29]
principles and said, "Okay, what do we
really want our schools to be?" Um, and
[32:37]
so with all that feedback, it came back
and we we divided it into two parts. And
[32:41]
we've represented this here as a as a
building, right, of a school, but on the
[32:46]
bottom is kind of the foundation, you
know, teacher quality, effective
[32:50]
leadership, school culture, and then
school safety policy and operations.
[32:54]
Those are things that have to exist in
every school no matter what in order to
[32:58]
be robust and effective. And then
everything above the foundation were the
[33:03]
things that are related to size and
physical facilities and and those types
[33:09]
of things that are more related to a
boundary study type thing. And so we're
[33:13]
obviously going to pay really close
attention to the foundation.
[33:19]
But in our boundary study, we're going
to really look at these what's driving
[33:24]
us are these things. Um, when a school
gets too small, comprehensive offerings
[33:29]
become difficult. At the elementary
school, it's hard to have four
[33:32]
specialties if it's a tiny school. At
the high school, it's hard to have a
[33:36]
full array of AP and all the other uh
offerings if it's too small. And so,
[33:44]
and then you can kind of look through
those other things as well. um at a
[33:48]
really tiny elementary it's it's hard to
have an assistant principal from a from
[33:54]
a cost standpoint. It's much more doable
if the school's 600ish rather than
[34:00]
300ish, right? And so these are kind of
proxies for size, but the it's not
[34:06]
necessarily about size. It's about
getting to truly robust schools. And
[34:10]
over on the left or the right hand side,
you can see there kind of where we we
[34:15]
got to with optimal school sizes based
on different configurations. And so, uh,
[34:22]
Jason's going to then talk about kind of
where we are with our massive boundary
[34:26]
study. Um, but this is really what's
driving those questions. And today's a
[34:30]
big day because uh well and I forgot to
mention there we actually split into two
[34:35]
parts because there were really two
distinct parts and they wanted to not
[34:41]
be confused with the public. So in in
July already the board has voted to put
[34:47]
in study the configuration funds which
is the newly nth graders to the high
[34:53]
school and then if we do that likely
moving the sixth graders to the middle
[34:58]
school and having 85.
Um so there's that part. That part's
[35:03]
officially open already. Today in our
board meeting, uh we anticipate that
[35:08]
we'll vote to study the actual schools
that would be affected significantly by
[35:15]
um any kind of consolidation or closure.
Um again, one one thing I would point
[35:21]
out as far as the transparency part,
we're approaching this different than
[35:26]
normal. uh normally
one school is named as a closure
[35:33]
and we don't name any other schools that
are affected heavily by that closure.
[35:38]
So, you know, the the most obvious
example of that is Sarah Park and
[35:42]
Hillrest.
When that happened, only Hillrest was
[35:48]
studied as a closure. But for those of
you who are familiar with that
[35:53]
situation, did Sarah Park close?
>> It was renamed.
[35:57]
» Oh, but it was it no longer exist.
>> But if you think about it, it was a new
[36:01]
building. It was a new name. It was a
new student body. they were they were
[36:06]
affected just as much as Hillrest. And
so we're we're saying we're going to
[36:10]
name Sarah Park and Hillrest situation.
Um, one other thing that's I think
[36:17]
valuable about looking at the whole
district is it gives us better solutions
[36:24]
because sometimes we think of closures
in terms of this school and this school
[36:29]
coming together. by looking at it
holistically, we actually have a lot
[36:33]
more options to make better decisions
long term. So with that, I'm probably
[36:38]
stealing a little bit of
um anyway, so that's robust school
[36:44]
criteria. That's what's driving what we
do. You can obviously see the echoes
[36:48]
from from the vision of values in what
we've done and how we
[36:53]
» is that is this document available on
your website? I'm just thinking people
[36:57]
who might be watching. Yes, this this
document looked a lot like this document
[37:02]
just this week even. Um we're working on
making this one more than just text.
[37:07]
» Okay.
>> But this you posted it yesterday on
[37:10]
» our Facebook page. I saw it online.
>> Tyler, is it on our website?
[37:13]
» I haven't added to the website.
>> We do have a um boundary study
[37:17]
frequently asked questions web page.
>> Um so please go to that with any
[37:22]
questions.
>> It's not this. It's the text one I think
[37:24]
is there right? The robust scroll.
>> We have access. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[37:28]
and and that frequently asked questions
page might be a good thing link or
[37:33]
provide a QR code in the in the ORM city
communications those types of things so
[37:38]
we can get out to more than just people
who might be following
[37:44]
» okay thank you yeah I just want to make
sure that those who might be tuning in
[37:47]
have a place they can go to look at the
document that we're talking about
[37:51]
» and I appreciate you saying that mayor
because I I actually had a list of
[37:54]
questions people gave me to ask y'all I
don't think it's necessar I've asked a
[37:57]
few of them just so it would get out on
the airwaves, right? Not necessarily
[38:01]
appropriate right now, but I appreciate
you're referencing that because that's
[38:05]
kind of why a lot of people are
listening in.
[38:12]
» Well, thank you.
>> Joe, can I ask you a question about
[38:16]
number two?
>> Yeah.
[38:17]
» Um, I mean, we all want healthy
environments. We all want collaborative
[38:21]
environments, but I I guess I'm not
entirely sure how you're measuring. Uh
[38:25]
you've indicated here that you would
like to have three five classes per
[38:29]
grade. And I can understand reasons why
being able to make students of as they
[38:35]
go through classes might make a lot of
sense, but um
[38:42]
so much of learning is relational.
Um, and so I have to imagine that in
[38:47]
that bucket you care about the quality
of relationships that students have with
[38:53]
each other, that they have with their
mentors and their instructors.
[38:57]
Um,
and I I know sometimes as size gets
[39:01]
bigger, it's easier to fall through the
cracks
[39:06]
and that some of those relationships
that
[39:10]
might feel fractured or fragmented over
time. And so I was wondering um if you
[39:16]
could speak a little bit how you measure
that healthy collaborative environment.
[39:22]
» Yeah. So and what you're talking about
really is the bottom left as well,
[39:26]
right? It's it's high quality teaching,
right? And right in the middle of that
[39:30]
it says ability to build relationships
with students. Um so so I think you're
[39:36]
exactly right. That's one of those
foundational pieces that that can be
[39:41]
related to this somewhat, but really
what we're talking about regarding
[39:46]
five classes per grade is that when you
get down to one or two classes per
[39:52]
grade, it's much harder. It the student
experience actually suffers a little bit
[39:58]
because sometimes there's a group of
students you need to break up and if you
[40:01]
have nowhere to put, you know, if you
can't break them up, it's hard. Um it's
[40:06]
a same thing for teacher collaboration.
Uh we believe that that teachers are
[40:11]
much better when they're collaborating
and it's hard to collaborate with
[40:16]
yourself on a team of one or maybe a
team of half. And another way that
[40:22]
starts to look is sometimes if you don't
get to that three to five classes, the
[40:28]
class sizes get really wonky or you end
up with grade splits, which are not a
[40:33]
it's not ideal to have a second, third
grade split. Um, and if you have 38 kids
[40:41]
in a class and that's all you've got for
your first grade, then we have schools
[40:45]
that that are in that situation.
Logistically, it's really hard to split
[40:51]
into two classes of 19 from a financial
standpoint, right? And so then you end
[40:56]
up with with
you have enough students to justify at
[41:01]
least three teachers. A lot of those
things get in and out. But to your
[41:07]
point, it's still every student needs to
have those types of relationships with
[41:13]
with and when it's not just teachers.
It's also that a teacher fosters a
[41:18]
culture of connection between students,
right? And even a connection between
[41:22]
what they're learning and the student
and all of those kinds of
[41:27]
» Yeah.
I just want to point out that school
[41:30]
size does not necessarily translate to
large school size doesn't translate to
[41:36]
large class size. As a matter of fact,
we have more options uh with a bigger um
[41:43]
overall enrollment to reduce class size.
So the we're still targeting the same
[41:50]
numbers of per grade per classroom. So
this is not about increasing class size.
[41:57]
when we're talking about perhaps
increasing this size as this
[42:02]
is I was going to also add when Dr.
Jensen visited with us, visited all 29
[42:08]
um schools. This is feedback we got from
parents who probably want a choice
[42:13]
between teachers and students and uh
principles of the the elementary saying
[42:21]
we 300's hard. We need 500 600 and
teachers who said we want somebody to
[42:26]
collaborate with. We want to be able to
have a learning partner or several
[42:29]
learning partners. That's where we got
kind of this this what we're thinking is
[42:33]
from that group saying this is
maybe just on this one more comment. I
[42:39]
appreciate those responses. I think
they're great and um it makes good sense
[42:45]
to me. Um,
one of the things that's not here, it
[42:50]
doesn't necessarily belong here that
becomes a really big issue whenever we
[42:54]
start talking about consolidation
is um, identity and a person's identity
[43:01]
is so wrapped up in the school they go
to, right?
[43:05]
um
schools, good, you know, good schools
[43:08]
that foster community also foster an
identity around that school and pe
[43:14]
people grow up. I still of course have
an identity of the elementary school I
[43:19]
went to
um because it shaped much of who I
[43:23]
developed uh into. And so I just
encourage you as you start thinking
[43:29]
about this tonight and and beyond
that there is an identity track here is
[43:36]
how do we ensure that all of that great
identity work that has gone into schools
[43:41]
over time is maintained in some way and
celebrated. I just don't want that to be
[43:47]
neglected.
>> Absolutely. And maybe Jen and Grace can
[43:50]
talk to this because they've both
experienced a consolidation.
[43:54]
Um, and one of the things we've talked a
lot about and we'll we actually have
[43:58]
scheduled some focus groups with patrons
that will be in any of these schools
[44:03]
that are involved is the transition. How
we go about that transition matters,
[44:09]
right? Being really intentional about
bringing PTSAs together, bringing uh
[44:13]
SEC's together, doing any kind of
consolidation. Um making that student
[44:20]
experience, uh even allowing for time
and space to both celebrate and mourn
[44:25]
the school that that might be actually
shuttering its doors. We've talked about
[44:31]
what's going to be our policy. do we
rename or no or why or do we like leave
[44:35]
that up to those community members and
all of those types of things because it
[44:39]
does matter how and you guys have both
experienced it.
[44:43]
» Yeah. So, um with the valid you know
there was um
[44:48]
the time there was a time issue and
there was a lawsuit against the district
[44:53]
about it and so every they couldn't
officially do things until I think it
[44:57]
was June 1 or June 51. I don't remember
when it was, but it made it so that
[45:02]
every
knew we were closing, but we couldn't do
[45:05]
anything that the district wouldn't
support us in any type of celebration.
[45:10]
The teachers couldn't move their
classrooms until the middle of the
[45:14]
summer. And it it to me it just it it
cemented in my in my mind that we need
[45:21]
to we need to mourn. We need to honor
that identity. you will even if your
[45:27]
school closes, you will I my kids are
still Valley View Hawks and the the ones
[45:32]
that have graduated from there and I I
don't imagine that that's going to
[45:36]
change that they can have that identity.
Just because the school is closed
[45:39]
doesn't mean that that is gone and we
need to celebrate it and and and
[45:45]
mourn it and move on and recognize that
we can take what's good
[45:51]
and let's let's let's bring that and and
create something great.
[45:56]
Yeah, I my kids were at Sarah Park when
it was combined with Hillrest to make
[46:02]
Centennial. And I would say the majority
there might still be a few people who
[46:06]
really didn't like the combo, but in the
end it was a really good school to be in
[46:11]
a a better facility. There were severe
safety issues with his part and and also
[46:18]
having more grades and kids and more
options have been something that parents
[46:23]
overall have really liked. What didn't
go over well was the transition. And
[46:28]
that's where I would like to see things
go differently. And a lot of that was
[46:31]
because um I think
the district, bless their hearts, really
[46:37]
tried to do things well and do it right,
but they didn't get enough community
[46:41]
input of what the community wants. And
they did a lot of and it was just kind
[46:46]
of thrown in this is how it's going to
be and this is how it's going to be done
[46:49]
and we just swap off and I think that
can be done differently and the
[46:54]
community coming together and likening
each other before they come together
[46:58]
when
[47:05]
» um I just want to kind of explain to
them I lived here 35 years ago there
[47:11]
people lived here my whole life but I'm
just going to tell you my impression
[47:15]
from having been here 35 years something
I truly appreciated is the identity of
[47:21]
the areas of forum
I knew that when I was by Windsor
[47:26]
Elementary, I could find Windsor Park, I
could find the Windsor softball fields
[47:32]
when that was the assigned play place
for my child to go do their wreck um
[47:37]
games. Um and that was one of the the
things that we have these regional
[47:43]
whoever set that up years and years and
years ago I thought was so wise to put
[47:47]
the facilities next to the community
acres of the schools. So, we've had
[47:52]
these these women builders and um
so to me, and I've voiced this before,
[48:00]
but to me, those names are really almost
sacred. We have congregations that are
[48:05]
also recognized. If I know that someone
tells me the predominant religion,
[48:11]
someone says, "Oh, I'm in the the
Windsor the Northridge stake. We're
[48:15]
we're meeting in Northridge Park. We're
going to Northridge Elementary." I know
[48:19]
exactly where that is because of those
things that were set up years and years
[48:24]
ago, that identity, that community
identity. I kind of um mourned the loss
[48:30]
of Sarah that we're doing our heart of
Orum at the Sierra Park. So, I would
[48:35]
have loved to have had that school
continued to be called Sierra Elementary
[48:39]
to keep that community anchor there
because we as a city are going to really
[48:44]
be improving that area. Um, so I guess I
throw that out there to say, um, I
[48:51]
understand the morning of one, you know,
if you have to do it, you can only have
[48:57]
one name. Maybe you could hyphenate, I
don't know, but that's for you to
[49:01]
decide. But, um, it is okay to keep
tradition
[49:07]
and to just become the new the new. We
know that some of the people can become
[49:13]
the new, the new
you keep the mask out of one but keep
[49:17]
the name. That's kind of my almost um
what I find valuable to take here in ORM
[49:24]
is that identity
know right here Cherry Hill Park. I know
[49:29]
where to go and wow I know that school's
right there.
[49:33]
» Anyway, that's just from an or
perspective something I've valued. So
[49:36]
I've moved here because I haven't seen
it anywhere else. I would just say you
[49:40]
could pass as a Norm native and the
reason I know is because you called it
[49:43]
Sierra Parker
[49:47]
has been coaching me. You've been
coaching me for the past month. Every
[49:50]
time I say Sarah, it's not Sarah.
>> Sarah,
[49:54]
» it's not hurricane. It's hurricane.
>> And really the the whole history there,
[49:57]
right? That was a community gathering
place. Surah the center for Yeah. So
[50:02]
history that I
focus
[50:06]
» impressive.
[50:09]
Oh, can I ask one more thing about this
paper? I don't uh because I've had
[50:13]
questions. Um feeder schools is that
part of your conversation
[50:19]
» outcome that would be an outcome of of
things
[50:25]
is aligned with your school pattern.
>> Okay. I just didn't see that on here.
[50:28]
So,
>> Jason's going to talk more about that.
[50:30]
» Okay.
>> That goes along with identity, right? I
[50:33]
mean, I I identify probably more with my
elementary school than my junior high
[50:38]
just because I kind of want to forget
some of the [laughter]
[50:44]
» uh but cub.
>> I am an or cub. I can sing you still.
[50:49]
» You're a Jaguar. Jaguar.
>> I am.
[50:53]
» You remember that?
>> Huh? [laughter]
[50:55]
» I I but I am a Mountain View Bruin.
Definitely that. So I think the
[50:59]
identities are a lot stronger with those
high schools and as we look at um
[51:05]
keeping those relationships. I think
that is a priority of the board to keep
[51:09]
those true feeders which we don't have
now. We have I mean
[51:14]
» split
>> I was split from my elementary. I went
[51:16]
to elementary
here 35 36 years ago. Uh but we yeah
[51:22]
half of our elementary went to Lakeidge,
half to ORM Jr. And then [clears throat]
[51:27]
half of my worm junior experience or
half of us went to well all of us at
[51:32]
Mount View but then Tibanogus came our
junior year right Jason and then that
[51:37]
split
>> two times over
[51:38]
» and if you look at Tibonogus that's
>> literally three rivers feed into that
[51:44]
» and so it I think that's the priority of
the the board to say let's keep these
[51:51]
communities together there might be some
ident like identity changes for those
[51:55]
middle schools. But as far as high
school boundaries, it'll be interesting
[52:00]
to see what the board decides um on how
they're going to make those work. I'm so
[52:05]
glad doing it.
[52:11]
» Well, you one thing that has become
apparent as we've really been studying
[52:16]
this really since April. Um in the north
you can see that there's consolidation
[52:21]
when Sharon closed
Valley View
[52:25]
» and then there's been fairly significant
consolidation in the south and east
[52:30]
right with Sharon Geneva and Hillrest.
And so really what you'll see tonight
[52:38]
likely depending what the board does for
sure is really we're addressing that
[52:44]
center part where you can actually look
there's a there's a circle of I think
[52:49]
six schools within a mile and a quarter
of each other. None of them are more
[52:54]
than a mile and a quarter from each
other and they're all in the 300s soon.
[53:00]
And so it's it's partly just an
evolution of the city of Oram as well,
[53:05]
right? And we can talk birth rates, we
could talk affordability, we could talk
[53:10]
charter schools, all of those affect
that, but um it's it'll be a fascinating
[53:17]
study moving forward.
Mayor, may I may I just uh throw out
[53:22]
there, please see uh ORM as a resource
for trying to figure out how to use any
[53:30]
properties that are consolidated. We can
be helpful in in
[53:35]
making sure they maintain identity,
community gathering, park, recreational
[53:39]
uses. Obviously, we've done that really
really well with
[53:44]
» I I need to go I need to go view that.
I've heard that time and time again and
[53:48]
I'm like yeah that's what I'd love for
us to because we we are looking at some
[53:53]
maps as we as we are just um I wore
makeup today so I can't rub my eyes but
[53:58]
I've been rubbing my eyes a lot um
talking about this is that concern about
[54:04]
h that's kind of that's leaving a large
area without something. So that's what
[54:09]
we would love to do is be able to
partner not just with you but like I'm
[54:12]
thinking United Way. There's a lot of
community partners that we
[54:16]
[clears throat]
um
[54:19]
I mean not just not just us us but
multiple people that we could bring
[54:24]
something to a community that will
continue to serve um and maybe address
[54:31]
other needs that that those areas have.
So we're excited about that.
[54:36]
If you can spell or several times with
all the letters in here [laughter]
[54:51]
» always visionary
as the communications team says ORM is
[54:57]
very cool.
>> Warm gives you more. You rearrange ORM.
[55:01]
[laughter]
[55:05]
» All right. I'm just looking at the
clock. We've got about 25 minutes.
[55:10]
» I told him we had five minutes.
>> And so just we're good. Just so you know
[55:14]
that we we'll just [clears throat] just
we're shooting end at two, but it looks
[55:18]
like we might don't want to cut anybody
short. And so we'll just move right
[55:23]
along. And to Jason, steady.
>> Thank you.
[55:27]
» And
I told you five minutes.
[55:30]
» Five minutes to start the clock. First,
um, President Lman and I are going to go
[55:34]
check out the Hillrest Park. We're going
to play pickle ball there tomorrow,
[55:37]
right? [laughter]
[55:41]
» Pickle ball. It's great.
>> I'll come watch it. I'll come I'll come.
[55:46]
» Um, one thing I wanted to point out here
with those optimal school sizes, um, to
[55:51]
see the K6 and the K5 are different. So,
if there is some movement of 912, 68,
[55:56]
it's not to be able to say, well, now
there's more elementaryaries to close
[55:59]
because it's not having to do with that.
It's the 3 to five. So, there's going to
[56:02]
be one last grade if that's the way it
goes, but it's still looking at the
[56:06]
optimal sizes there. Um, a little
background on why we're looking at this.
[56:11]
Some things we've shared before, but the
elementary number of elementary students
[56:16]
we had in our schools. There's 20
elementary schools
[56:20]
in the area right now of the four
cities. So, the total enrollment last
[56:24]
school year was the same as in 1980.
In 1980 there were 17 schools. There's
[56:31]
20 of those schools now. So that kind of
helps a little bit seeing that. Also,
[56:36]
um, going back to 1980 is really when
enrollment in the area started taking
[56:41]
off. So, elementary enrollment peaked in
1988 and has gone down since 1988.
[56:46]
Junior high peaked in 1992 and has now
gone down. And then high school 1998
[56:53]
with the overall when you put them all
together was in 1996.
[56:57]
So declining enrollments since 1996
overall. Um and so that's what we're
[57:02]
we're looking at. That's why there's
been consolidations closures already. Um
[57:06]
when we're looking at these numbers,
even the K6 numbers to get to the three
[57:11]
grade three classes per grade, it's
about 590 students. So by this last
[57:17]
year, there were seven schools of the 20
that were above that mark. Um in 27
[57:23]
there's uh five and in 2030 only five.
So 15 schools are below that mark of the
[57:31]
having the three on average. So a lot of
them have two or one and a half like Dr.
[57:36]
Jensel was talking about. Um some other
things to note um as we've started this
[57:42]
boundary we've had boundary committees
which have been really great. We've
[57:45]
brought in principles. So the elementary
and the secondary ones have had four
[57:48]
principles that have been consistent
throughout with staff with three board
[57:52]
members in each as we've just been kind
of planning this for many months of
[57:57]
different brainstorming sessions
figuring those things out the cluster
[58:00]
meetings focus groups. Um one one option
for the high schools was brought is it
[58:05]
more favorable to have to close a high
school and have three high schools that
[58:09]
robust size or to bring the nth grade
up. You can probably imagine the
[58:14]
reactions there. people want their high
schools, their identity up there. So
[58:18]
that I think is a big reason as the 912
is being considered and is felt pretty
[58:24]
favorable from the community along with
the transportation of students that are
[58:29]
on main activities trying to get from
the junior high to the high school. Um
[58:34]
let's see what else. Uh so yeah, we're
looking at many different options
[58:40]
tonight. We'll just present
um a little bit about some of the things
[58:44]
we've been looking at in the boundary
committees looking at numbers as
[58:48]
different configurations. Um we have a
couple different secondary options.
[58:53]
Uh and those we do want to try and get
to as much possible pure feeders. So
[58:57]
right now there's four high schools and
five junior highs. If a junior high were
[59:01]
to close it would be four and four which
makes it a lot easier to get that pure
[59:04]
feeder. Um, and then even with the
elementaryaries to be able to see if
[59:08]
there's a possibility to get it's it's a
pretty pretty difficult to get
[59:14]
everything, but there's some that we
looked at where maybe one school that
[59:18]
already is split does that and if there
is a split between it. We're trying to
[59:22]
get as close to a 50/50 for that to be
able to make that,
[59:26]
» you know, they're going with friends and
then it doesn't where they come back.
[59:29]
So, if they split the elementary,
they're going to two junior highs, two
[59:32]
different feeder systems, and staying
together from there on out. So, anything
[59:37]
I missed or any questions?
>> Instead of like splitting the junior
[59:42]
high, splitting the high school. Yeah,
>> the the we've been looking at is that
[59:46]
the junior highs and the high schools
have identical boundary.
[59:50]
» Some of that makes it a little difficult
because
[59:54]
» but but it should work, but some would
need to be a little bit larger than
[59:57]
others. Um, Oram High is the smallest
square footage of the four high schools.
[1:00:01]
So, trying to keep it um a little bit
smaller, but even that with having 912
[1:00:07]
high schools and in 2030 they're all
under 2,000 for the number of high
[1:00:13]
schools with ORM around 1,600. Uh
there's another thing why we're looking
[1:00:18]
at that too. So the
[1:00:22]
Pleasant Grove High School in 2020 was
at its highest and it was about 2200
[1:00:26]
students. They're now at 1,800 and
projected to be at 1450 in 2030.
[1:00:32]
So that's where we're seeing a big
decline right now in that area where
[1:00:35]
where ORM Lynon have had that also. Um
looking out to 2030 if there were no
[1:00:41]
changes. I mentioned the elementaryaries
where there'd be 15 of the 20 less than
[1:00:47]
about 530. So they'd be anywhere from
230 students to 520. But the junior
[1:00:53]
highs in 2030, the five of them there
would be three of them less than less
[1:00:59]
than three of them less than a thousand.
Next one at right around 1,000 one at
[1:01:03]
1,200 and then the high schools all
around uh averaging about 1350 or so.
[1:01:10]
So the high schools right now to have
that robust program, Alpine has has put
[1:01:15]
a lot of extra teacher FTEEs to the
schools to be able to have that where
[1:01:21]
that works for a district of 85,000
students. It will it'll be more
[1:01:26]
difficult for a smaller district um
unless there's more revenue through
[1:01:31]
property tax increases. So that's some
things we've been asking too like we can
[1:01:35]
get to some of these robust things by
just raising taxes or we can this way or
[1:01:40]
combination. So that's really what we're
studying is is how that can all
[1:01:44]
together.
>> Can I say speak to that?
[1:01:47]
» It has been amazing to me because you
know we are doing a truth in taxation.
[1:01:52]
is that um
it as I've had those conversations with
[1:01:57]
people, it has been very interesting to
me to have people be against what ORM is
[1:02:02]
doing trying to raise taxes and yet at
the same time saying they're willing to
[1:02:07]
support education if y'all went out for
a bonus some kind. So, I think that
[1:02:13]
speaks a lot to what our I don't want to
say what our community values, but kind
[1:02:17]
of that but that they value children is
what the point is, right? So, just I
[1:02:22]
wanted to make sure I communicated that
to you today. That was very interesting
[1:02:26]
for me to hear back because some of the
people I talked to are just anti-ax no
[1:02:30]
matter what.
>> But, um yeah, I just want to acknowledge
[1:02:34]
that we're both dealing with the same
pocketbook, you know. Um so we need to
[1:02:39]
be cognizant of your needs as well and
not you know put the pressure on unduly
[1:02:45]
and that's I think this is not our main
purpose but certainly one of the
[1:02:50]
purposes to demonstrate to our public
that we are doing what we can to uh not
[1:02:55]
be a burden
>> right and to you
[1:03:02]
» Jason do you ever feel like you're
living a giant story problem
[1:03:07]
One lives in a green house, one has a
purple house. And who owns the parakeet?
[1:03:11]
» Jason loves
[1:03:15]
[laughter]
>> I was talking to Dr. I was working on a
[1:03:19]
bunch of stuff this morning. I don't
have a lot of time where I have three
[1:03:23]
hours all open and I did this morning,
but really didn't come up for breath and
[1:03:27]
just get into Excel and it's
>> he was into it. [laughter]
[1:03:31]
» Wow. Well, thank you. I just I don't
know who owns the parakeet and I don't
[1:03:36]
know who lives in the houses, but I'm
I'm glad that you you all [laughter] are
[1:03:39]
going to be figuring that out. Thank
you. Um all right, next item. John,
[1:03:46]
you're up. Safe routes and bus routes.
[1:03:54]
» Could I just give you handouts? I would,
but
[1:03:58]
I'll show you some of here.
Take Pete's chair.
[1:04:13]
Um,
a few things have changed just in the
[1:04:17]
last few days of talking with David and
a little bit with Joe. Um, the last two
[1:04:22]
years I've been working on establishing
um, what bus stops will be closing. And
[1:04:28]
this is the Alpan School District
website. Really good about showing kind
[1:04:32]
of the school boundaries. Um we'll take
Lacorage for an example. There used to
[1:04:36]
be a a layer that talked about in the
bike routes. We removed or as a city
[1:04:43]
because if you look at the marquee down
here in the bottom it says students come
[1:04:47]
first.
And that's kind of how we approach it
[1:04:52]
from a traffic transportation point of
view. busing that we want them to be
[1:04:56]
first in safety to get to and from
school. So that
[1:05:02]
link no longer exists. However, the last
couple years I have actually taken some
[1:05:08]
screenshots and shown
what those are and it was a little more
[1:05:13]
alarming literally up to a couple days
ago where I thought, "Oh man, the school
[1:05:17]
district's going to close all these
routes." And I have all this data of how
[1:05:21]
many. We had a table that's saying
there's 70 not routes, I should call
[1:05:25]
them bus stops. There's 70 stops you're
now going to have to walk.
[1:05:31]
What I'm finding out is that when the
boundary changes
[1:05:36]
Dave that we're not going to make kids
walk across State Street and so it's a
[1:05:41]
motive to run. [laughter]
[1:05:46]
» Delete that part. Okay. David [laughter]
[1:05:54]
So this slide here lot there's a lot of
data in there but what I wanted to point
[1:05:59]
out with my praise the laser if I don't
steal somebody's eyeballs work up there
[1:06:04]
each one of these little dots represent
a bus stop and this is last year's
[1:06:08]
school um not this year not this is the
25 26 scene and so we were kind of going
[1:06:15]
forward going how do we get all these
kids across to lacage how do we get all
[1:06:20]
these kids across
Lacorage and
[1:06:23]
» is that University Park? Yes.
>> So, I I added um these roads for State
[1:06:28]
Street, University Parkway, I15. There's
actually two two stops west of I-15 that
[1:06:33]
are closing. I say were because I think
that you as a district now have the
[1:06:39]
option to it's a little closer to me. Um
but the previous organization of the
[1:06:44]
school district published this. So, it
kind of got blurry. Um, and our biggest
[1:06:49]
thing is safety of the kids and how do
we get them there? And you know, this
[1:06:53]
from here to here is about 1.3 miles and
there's another score is 1.79 1.8 miles.
[1:06:59]
» So, it's pretty far
away.
[1:07:04]
» And so,
um,
[1:07:07]
what we want to do is remind the school
district we're here to help. Um, we've
[1:07:13]
met with community school community
councils. Um I have a meeting with ORM
[1:07:18]
junior high assistant principal um
coming up. Um what happens is I think I
[1:07:25]
have UD do
what happens isn't even correct me is
[1:07:29]
that this safe routes to school program
is kind of managed through the state
[1:07:34]
grants you can get to to do
improvements. This is what they put out
[1:07:38]
there. Um I only showed
nine bus stops. Um over here they
[1:07:44]
actually have 19 and 20. I think I had
nine and 10 or nine and 15. This is the
[1:07:49]
most current safe route to school for
Lake Range. Um, and so there's
[1:07:54]
potentially a lot of stops and a lot of
kids and families. And so,
[1:08:01]
um, we can go through other schools, but
I think you get the point. I've got all
[1:08:05]
the other four or five schools. They're
all junior highs, right? The elementary
[1:08:09]
um,
then we're going to take any of the of
[1:08:13]
the buses from the elementary and high
school. So, um, I really wanted to get
[1:08:17]
the point across is that we're here to
help. We're here to work together. I do
[1:08:22]
have other versions of of other schools
[1:08:26]
records here
as John finds that just to we talked
[1:08:32]
yesterday and we were concerned that
maybe there were some stops going. I've
[1:08:35]
confirmed with the current director that
in Oram no stops have been is the same
[1:08:42]
stops as last year year
>> and so nothing's been taken away. Now
[1:08:46]
caveat to that is we have we're short 20
to 30 bus drivers. So there's actually
[1:08:53]
buses that we're not driving
and that's creating some double runs and
[1:08:58]
some differences in timing but all the
stops are in place in Orum Vineyard.
[1:09:03]
There's a couple that have been taken
away and DG1 and Lynon one but Orum
[1:09:10]
remains the same.
>> So that was [clears throat] comforting
[1:09:13]
and yeah we um two years ago is when I
started this process and the direction I
[1:09:19]
received was that the school district is
going to close these. So it's going to
[1:09:24]
happen this month and now it hasn't.
>> This is an example of the this is like
[1:09:28]
from the school down to the bottom is
seven miles. This little green line
[1:09:34]
represent it's this is the safe route to
the current safe route to school plan
[1:09:38]
here.
You were to take that school and
[1:09:42]
superimpose it there at the same
location. This bottom line is this
[1:09:47]
bottom line which shows you the current
boundary of the safe route program for
[1:09:51]
this school. That means none of these
areas and none of these stops currently
[1:09:57]
have a safe route. Now we thought it was
going to happen August but it's going to
[1:10:01]
be next August. So I propose correct me
if the steps are wrong but once you
[1:10:09]
decide on a boundary in which schools
stay in which change you have I believe
[1:10:15]
access to age of students when you talk
about by 20 30 or 40 these things will
[1:10:21]
happen based on ages. I'm sure you know
of clusters of students population and
[1:10:26]
where they live. That's not public. Once
you decide upon that, it's the school
[1:10:30]
community councils to establish these
safe routes. And each
[1:10:35]
um
school has a what do they call them? A
[1:10:39]
safe route to school administrator that
works with them. And then that's item
[1:10:43]
three, work with the cities to
physically walk
[1:10:48]
or drive or both.
>> I'll make David run it. [laughter]
[1:10:55]
Who said David? Not Dave.
>> Believe you're David.
[1:10:57]
» I'll run her. She walked the paths.
You'll get the feeling what the kids do.
[1:11:02]
And sometimes it's it's uh evergreens
growing way out on Northridge on there
[1:11:07]
was these bushes that you literally
couldn't walk down where there's sight
[1:11:11]
distance or vehicles that can't see the
kids. So, we really need to figure out
[1:11:17]
what that safe route is. We want to work
with you to do it. will help to do it.
[1:11:21]
There's tripping hazards, there's sight
distance. Um, and the important thing is
[1:11:25]
the timing of improvements. We did a I
think it's Bonavville
[1:11:30]
school. We did a a hawk signal, right?
Push button hawk $160 $170,000. It took
[1:11:37]
months to get it designed, get it built.
So, we need to get ahead and work
[1:11:41]
backwards from we have an August 1
deadline of kids not being bust. We need
[1:11:47]
to start in December this year to get
stuff designed. And we do a lot of
[1:11:52]
design in house. So you're you're
getting a a deal there. You'll we'll
[1:11:56]
design most of the stuff if we can. And
we even construct some of the concrete
[1:12:00]
if we can and do that. We do have a kind
of an ongoing I don't know if it's
[1:12:04]
written, but it's usually a 50/50 split
of improvements with the school district
[1:12:07]
in the past. So we've had we usually
have small, medium, and large projects.
[1:12:13]
20,000 60,000 about 100. So depending on
the crossing type [clears throat]
[1:12:20]
kind of range from that
um and then once the administrator
[1:12:25]
updates the website UD do looks at it
and approves it and it goes to the
[1:12:29]
website. So
I just encourage that we work together
[1:12:34]
and we get ahead of it so that we don't
show up August 1st. We have this unsafe
[1:12:39]
» and John that will be a fairly tight
timeline for us. On December 2nd, the
[1:12:44]
board will decide which schools will
change and then hopefully close to that
[1:12:50]
time, we'll have some boundaries ready
and then it will be up to the existing
[1:12:54]
school community council to look forward
to instructing the routes and about
[1:12:59]
December. So that'll be a very tight
>> well in in a perfect world if it was a
[1:13:02]
very large infrastructure usually hawks.
>> Yeah, that would be good. Clearly we can
[1:13:08]
do other things faster. Um, but the
sooner the better to help us get ahead
[1:13:12]
of it and whatever mechanisms of
monitoring and you know taking a walk
[1:13:15]
and saying if I was a kid in this
neighborhood, how would I get to a
[1:13:18]
school?
>> Yes.
[1:13:19]
» Well, let's keep talking as we say one
thing right down to Cascade. Remember
[1:13:24]
John? So Cascade was designed for two
drop off an hour, you know, later
[1:13:28]
gators, early birds. And when it was
consolidated with Sharon and it was a
[1:13:33]
one drop off there there were traffic,
there were safety issues. I saw John I I
[1:13:37]
went to the school community council
watched our traffic team handle those
[1:13:41]
just expertly and quickly but truly to
do that before school started would be
[1:13:47]
ideal [clears throat] signal there
you'll see pylons you'll see red curb
[1:13:52]
you'll see crossing guards just the city
does pay for the crossing guards too
[1:13:56]
that happens I don't know what they cost
per year but that's on us 100%
[1:14:03]
» and you'll see the Friday bike bus
>> Friday
[1:14:06]
Yes.
>> And we we I was I was really happy when
[1:14:10]
I asked Dave about um bus drivers
because we do have these double routes
[1:14:14]
and I said, "No, do we not have enough
bus drivers?" And he says, "We're fine.
[1:14:18]
We've got enough bus drivers." And then
I I said, "Well, with the double
[1:14:21]
routes," he's like, "Oh, ASD doesn't
in a bad shape." And I think that speaks
[1:14:27]
to people want to work for this
district. And so I I'm hopeful that that
[1:14:31]
means that we'll be able to have enough
bus drivers. Now, that being said, they
[1:14:36]
the state only reimbures us for eligible
routes. So, everything that's an
[1:14:40]
ineligible route that we're paying for
100%. That's going to impact our our
[1:14:45]
budget and our bottom line. That's a
>> priority eligible and not eligible as
[1:14:48]
far as
>> distance is 1.5 miles for a elementary
[1:14:52]
and two miles for secondary.
>> What Jen's talking about was
[1:14:57]
people asked where they wanted to be.
lion share of the bus driver wanted to
[1:15:02]
be a lot of these communities but
because it's the student counts. So we
[1:15:09]
got all the bus drivers pretty short 30.
[laughter]
[1:15:13]
You got any buses liner.
[1:15:18]
» I'll just say John and transportation
and traffic
[1:15:22]
are
the line. So
[1:15:26]
we want to be creative. We want to look
at things from all angles. We want to be
[1:15:30]
as helpful as we can. um even to other
uh cities in the district if we don't
[1:15:37]
have the same kind of
rationale and sophistication that we do.
[1:15:42]
So we just see this as a resource. We
get the solutions that you perhaps
[1:15:49]
wouldn't be able to just on your own. We
can address we can't say by August 1st
[1:15:53]
we got everything done you know we can
we can react stuff and help stuff. Just
[1:15:59]
was curious. Do do you have an idea of
how many crossing guards we have?
[1:16:05]
» I Yeah. Through the
>> police 2030.
[1:16:14]
» Just noting how important they are to
our communities. I mean, we value them
[1:16:20]
so much [clears throat] and appreciate
training. And
[1:16:23]
» thank you.
>> Didn't realize the city footed the bill
[1:16:25]
on that. I thought the school district
did. city history.
[1:16:29]
» What happens?
>> Thank you very much.
[1:16:31]
» So,
I live in Oram, west of the freeway, but
[1:16:36]
the school that's closest to me is
Vineyard Elementary, which is in
[1:16:40]
Vineyard, and uh I I've seen the
crossing guards, and the c one of the
[1:16:44]
crossing guards uh is in Oram crossing
over to the sidewalk that goes right by
[1:16:51]
Vineyard. One of them's in our soccer
park that's crossing over to Vineyard
[1:16:56]
Elementary which is in V. How do you
guys do that with Vineyard? Is it you
[1:17:01]
pay for the morning they're coming from
or worm to vineyard [laughter] in the
[1:17:04]
afternoon that they're going from
vineyard to ORM or how does that work?
[1:17:09]
» We just
[1:17:12]
give them a few library cards.
[laughter]
[1:17:17]
» Been here is building us a new signal at
the Lakeside Park. So
[1:17:20]
» Oh, yes. I I've been here for that 100%.
So I think
[1:17:24]
» it would have been great to have that
done and the other construction in ORM
[1:17:28]
done. I can't get out of my neighborhood
without I mean it's there's two ways out
[1:17:33]
without going all the way down to
>> but that's another issue another
[1:17:35]
meeting.
>> Oh, [laughter]
[1:17:37]
you know the arms were on
>> that the signal arms were on back order.
[1:17:42]
That's the delay. I just learned about
that
[1:17:45]
» coating. Huh?
>> Thanks John L. Are you here for chief?
[1:17:50]
Yes.
>> All right. You're up, Chief.
[1:17:56]
» Well, that's the guy who puts out the
dumpster fires.
[1:17:59]
» Y
>> 65. I can see over the top [laughter]
[1:18:05]
video.
[1:18:14]
» Sure.
[1:18:18]
Welcome back. Students in the Alpine
School District have always learned
[1:18:21]
math, science, and history, right? Well,
now a new class will teach students how
[1:18:26]
to put out fires and save lives. It is a
new partnership with the ORM Fire
[1:18:30]
Department. New specialist Alex Guerrero
live for us at the ORM Fire Department
[1:18:34]
tonight. And Alex, this is an
opportunity for those imagined to get a
[1:18:38]
head start on a potential career.
>> It sure is, Mike. You know, it is one
[1:18:43]
thing to learn about firefighting in a
textbook. It is something else to go out
[1:18:46]
on actual real calls. It's what some
high school students in the Alpine
[1:18:50]
School District are doing with the ORM
Fire Department. But for as much as it
[1:18:54]
helps them get experience for a
potential career, it could also help the
[1:18:58]
fire department in the future.
>> You ready for this?
[1:19:01]
» Even though it's an easy part of the
job,
[1:19:04]
» you got it.
>> Leila Bonum still wanted to be perfect
[1:19:06]
at it.
>> Okay, go.
[1:19:08]
» Meaning putting on all this firefighter
turnout gear in less than 60 seconds.
[1:19:14]
She had no problem with it and couldn't
wait to do more and learn more about
[1:19:19]
being a firefighter.
>> I love it so much. Just like everything
[1:19:23]
about it, putting my life out for other
people, saving them, comforting them
[1:19:27]
even. It's just so amazing.
>> Bonum is still a junior in high school,
[1:19:31]
but thanks to a new program between the
Alpine School District and the ORM Fire
[1:19:35]
Department, she's getting a head start
in her future career. I think that like
[1:19:39]
more kids should know about these
programs cuz I didn't know about them,
[1:19:43]
but it's truly amazing.
>> This is only the second class. There's
[1:19:47]
one each semester. Students get credit
for it.
[1:19:51]
» They even go on fire and medical calls,
learning about what it takes to be
[1:19:55]
successful in this career.
>> On my left shoulder,
[1:19:58]
» even learning tasks seemingly as simple
as getting a water line off the fire
[1:20:02]
train
[1:20:05]
of it all.
>> Really tough. And I'm I love a good
[1:20:08]
challenge, so I'm willing to work for
it. And it cuz it's really hard, but
[1:20:12]
it's going to be a great reward in the
end.
[1:20:14]
» Blood pressures, heart rates, oxygen
saturations.
[1:20:16]
» For the ORM Fire Department, the class
is a great way to help with recruiting.
[1:20:21]
Departments have had challenges with
recruiting since the state changed the
[1:20:24]
retirement plan covering first
responders back in 2011.
[1:20:28]
» The numbers just aren't there um the way
they used to be. prior to the change in
[1:20:32]
the uh retirement system. It's really
thinned out.
[1:20:36]
» Classes like this one can help.
>> We'd love to hire these kids at some
[1:20:39]
point down the road.
>> Bonum would sign up now if she could,
[1:20:43]
» but she's excited to know when she can
she'll be better prepared.
[1:20:47]
» It's just so amazing and I love the
adrenaline rush.
[1:20:52]
Now, both Bonum and Anderson, the
students we interviewed, say after high
[1:20:55]
school graduation, they're planning on
going to the firefighter academy at Utah
[1:20:59]
Valley University. They say though that
the skills they are learning now will
[1:21:03]
only help them in college, ultimately
leading to this kind of a career. Mike,
[1:21:08]
» it's fun to see how excited they are
about the whole thing and hopefully more
[1:21:11]
will be just excited. All right, Alex,
great story. Thank you.
[1:21:17]
» Start with company and a conversation
worth waking up for. We love our
[1:21:21]
cadetses. We love the program. As you
can see, it's got energy, right? It's
[1:21:26]
it's a true symbiotic relationship in
that we both mutually benefit. As Chief
[1:21:32]
first talked about, numbers have been a
little lower than they were back in the
[1:21:36]
day when when I was testing 30 years
ago. We'd have 60 70 people show up for
[1:21:41]
one one career firefighter position.
These do these days, the numbers are not
[1:21:45]
like that. And so our intent through
community outreach is to target these
[1:21:49]
these kids, these students and to offer
them this cadet program where they can
[1:21:53]
come and they can smell the smells of
the smoke on the turnouts and put them
[1:21:58]
on and we put them in uniforms and put
them on the fire trucks on the
[1:22:01]
ambulances and it is just it's amazing
and it's a hoot and I think
[1:22:05]
[clears throat] you could see by the
interviews of both Ila and Ben they're
[1:22:08]
they're very excited and and that's what
we're after.
[1:22:11]
» When was this last semester?
this video was this last winter. It was,
[1:22:17]
I think, two semesters ago going last
fall. So, we've had to that point, we've
[1:22:21]
had uh
>> the fall of 24 was our first class.
[1:22:26]
We've run four. We're about to start our
fifth. We usually try and get between
[1:22:29]
eight and 10 students per class in
there, so we keep it manageable. But
[1:22:33]
these students are assigned crews.
They're they're assigned um just like if
[1:22:37]
they're if they're working. And they get
to go out and they get to know these
[1:22:40]
people. You saw firefighter Whipple in
there talking to some of them. And so
[1:22:44]
it's it's really a lot of it's about
coaching. It's about mentorship. And I I
[1:22:49]
don't know your name, but you you talked
about with regards to the development of
[1:22:53]
these students to become. I love that
because that's what we're doing for
[1:22:57]
those students that are that have an
interest in firefighting, we that this
[1:23:02]
is a physical manifestation of that
path. We bring them on and they and they
[1:23:06]
continue to grow and they develop. And
what we get from it is
[1:23:11]
candidates that we can hire. And in
fact, some of these these cadets have
[1:23:15]
actually already received jobs in uh on
fire departments and surrounding areas.
[1:23:20]
And so they're they're still really
young. And so it's going to take a while
[1:23:23]
to ramp them up because um they're
they're they're 17 and 18 years old. So
[1:23:29]
as far as the high schools go, just to
kind of give you some
[1:23:34]
uh quick idea, we we have them
[1:23:39]
Participating high schools have been
Orm, Tempenogus, Mountain View, Pleasant
[1:23:43]
Grove, Cedar Valley, Skyidge, and Carl
Maer. And this fall, students are coming
[1:23:48]
from Provo, Lehi, American Fork, and
Pacin high schools. And so we're we're
[1:23:53]
pulling back from that. Uh program costs
a student $200, which we do a physical
[1:23:59]
down at workmed, and we out them with
some basic uniform needs. Um and we
[1:24:05]
invite the graduates, the alumni back to
help us with fire prevention night and
[1:24:10]
and programs that we do. And uh
that's it. We think it's a wonderful
[1:24:16]
program. Like I said, it's we love
community outreach and we we love our
[1:24:19]
students and we it's it's a way that we
can really tap in and and provide
[1:24:24]
resources for them. You guys have any
questions for me?
[1:24:28]
» Are the classes taught during the school
day or is it after hours? It's it's they
[1:24:33]
they show up in the afternoon and they
go into the in later on that night and
[1:24:40]
they and they get credits as well. So
it's
[1:24:43]
» Yeah. I'm just wondering it's part of
the internship.
[1:24:45]
» Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
>> Internship.
[1:24:50]
» And so they get to come and hang out and
get school credit. So any other
[1:24:53]
questions?
[1:24:57]
» It's fun. I went to the graduation of
the last one and and I same group I
[1:25:02]
believe in January. I met them like on
their first day and to just see the the
[1:25:07]
difference and confidence.
>> I don't think you know what I'm talking
[1:25:10]
about. I do. Yes. And they're all kind
of sheepish. You want to do this and
[1:25:14]
then by the April they're ready to
conquer the world. So yes, thank you.
[1:25:18]
It's a great program.
>> Dumpster fire.
[1:25:21]
» Yes.
>> Sorry. How do you recruit quick?
[1:25:25]
» Social media these days, right? We get
the we get the word out and um these
[1:25:30]
kids they're they're um it travels like
wildfire. They they hear about this
[1:25:34]
program and we we get we get a lot of
response.
[1:25:37]
» I see what you did there with your
description.
[1:25:40]
» Wildfire. Okay.
[1:25:44]
» All right. Thank you. All right. Last
item on next to last item on the agenda
[1:25:48]
is our police chief, uh Chief Robinson.
We're going to talk about school
[1:25:52]
resource officers. Welcome. So
tremendously proud of our program and
[1:25:57]
the community uh relationship that we
have with uh our current principles um
[1:26:02]
and what we do with our school resource
officers. We have five full-time uh
[1:26:07]
school resource officers, a sergeant and
four detectives uh that are permanently
[1:26:11]
assigned to our three high schools and
our three junior highs.
[1:26:16]
» We met the one at Lakeidge. Very
impressive.
[1:26:20]
» Is it Loridge?
So they're I would say excellent
[1:26:25]
examples of who you want in school of
being that blend of uh Mr. Friendly but
[1:26:30]
yet being able to be there when the the
worst happens. And so uh my child uh
[1:26:36]
goes to one of these schools and I'm
very confident with the people that we
[1:26:40]
have in these. I feel comfortable with
my own kid going uh there with the the
[1:26:45]
type of officers that we train and these
schools. So um we take that
[1:26:50]
responsibility very seriously. Um they
follow the national NASRO uh national
[1:26:55]
association school resource officers
model. Uh first and foremost they're law
[1:26:59]
enforcement officers. Uh secondarily
they are uh educators. Uh many of them
[1:27:05]
all of them in the high school teach a
class. Um uh as wanted by the high
[1:27:10]
school and then informal mentors. And so
making that a you know you talked about
[1:27:15]
kindness and empathy and things like
that. uh building relationships with the
[1:27:20]
the students so that we hear about
problems before they are problems. If I
[1:27:25]
feel uncomfortable enough to go to the
school resource officer to say, "Hey,
[1:27:29]
this is this fight's going to happen
behind uh uh the
[1:27:34]
what are they called now?
>> Yes. I was thinking of the uh
[1:27:40]
the
>> um and so
[1:27:44]
back to uh Bren's uh initial we are
innovative. We we do things good. We're
[1:27:51]
always looking to do things better. And
so our our school resource officer
[1:27:56]
probably
more than a decade ago found a weakness
[1:28:00]
in our ability to communicate inside
these schools. And you go into a hot
[1:28:04]
scenario and you're like, "Hey, I'm at
Mr. Mr. Wilson's math class. Well, our
[1:28:08]
officers don't know where Mr. Mrs.
Wilson's math class is. Or a mass uh
[1:28:14]
officer response. Pleasant Grove
officers, county officers don't know
[1:28:17]
where that is. And so came up with like
a grid system. Um imagine
[1:28:22]
[clears throat] battleship if you're old
enough to remember battleship. Uh B3 U.
[1:28:27]
That's where we're at. And so, uh, that
was, uh, codified in state law, uh, and
[1:28:33]
that's now a state, uh, mandated thing
that came from one of our officers and
[1:28:38]
looking for ways to to be better.
>> Um,
[1:28:43]
I
it's just beginning of the new year.
[1:28:47]
Your your school year starts next uh,
you know, a year from now. And so I
[1:28:52]
would just say let's get together,
figure out what your expectations of
[1:28:56]
school resource officers are be so we
can meet those and we can uh be prepared
[1:29:01]
to meet those uh from personnel and a a
budgetary standpoint so we can make
[1:29:07]
those things
>> questions.
[1:29:12]
Your your training has that been on an
alpine district visible or is it bigger
[1:29:17]
than that? your where your SRO training
>> meaning what so are every officer goes
[1:29:23]
to the NASRO class uh it starts in June
so everyone goes to that are you talking
[1:29:30]
about the grid system search or just
their initial training
[1:29:33]
» just just training over in general
>> so every one of them attends that class
[1:29:38]
uh that's offered every June uh
>> is there any type of collaboration with
[1:29:42]
the other SRO's throughout ASD
>> yes so they're they've got their own
[1:29:47]
little network. They got their own
little group chats, uh, communicating
[1:29:51]
and doing that training. So, like in the
summer months, we utilize your buildings
[1:29:55]
to train all our officers in the police
department.
[1:29:58]
» I walked accidentally into one of your
trainings and I was like blown off
[1:30:02]
[laughter]
>> blown away. Now, do we have
[1:30:05]
» a good not a good description like
>> but I just didn't know if you'd have the
[1:30:12]
conversations about whether it's they
continue training in on that level after
[1:30:17]
the splits.
>> Uh let's talk about what your
[1:30:20]
expectations are. My intent would be to
continue that and if there's room that
[1:30:25]
we can improve then yeah I'm always open
for that. a different model that you
[1:30:30]
want to follow or something besides
NASRO. Um, I'm open to those as long as
[1:30:36]
it's moving us forward better and safer.
>> So, I have two questions. The first when
[1:30:43]
they're so one to one at each of the
secondary schools, do they also have an
[1:30:47]
elementary they're over go to?
>> Yeah. So if something a request those
[1:30:54]
there's assignments that those
so that the sergeant and the other
[1:30:59]
detectives split their time amongst the
three junior highs and then the 11 or 12
[1:31:05]
uh elementarymentaries they're all
assigned to that and so if there's a
[1:31:09]
request that come in uh that officer
that SRO would respond there unless
[1:31:14]
they're unavailable then somebody would
uh fill
[1:31:18]
» and the other question is during the
school year is they their time that
[1:31:22]
they're working is it 100% at the school
or is it 90% and they're doing
[1:31:25]
» 40 hours they work 58s they're they're
from 73 and and after dealing with these
[1:31:31]
are parent problems or teacher questions
or principal questions and they're 100
[1:31:36]
those five are 100% dedicated to
>> and in the summer have more help with
[1:31:41]
the department then
>> they come back that's usually when they
[1:31:44]
take their vacations the teachers um so
yeah
[1:31:49]
» you Do you work extracurricular events
as well?
[1:31:52]
» They do. The high school like football
uh games is probably the most apparent
[1:31:57]
one. Um trying to think of some of the
other ones where the overtime pages come
[1:32:02]
out are usually for the football uh
games.
[1:32:05]
» You don't have time to teach an
internship class, do you? [laughter]
[1:32:09]
» Personally, no
to uh
[1:32:13]
» I'm just thinking of the fire
department. They do have the law
[1:32:17]
enforcement class at the high schools
that that the green force officer
[1:32:21]
generally teaches. It's a four credit
>> usually first period TET
[1:32:27]
class.
>> Oh, I didn't
[1:32:30]
I'm not just bragging. This is reality.
Our school resource officers are
[1:32:34]
literally award-winning
as part of this national association.
[1:32:40]
» I forgot about that. In 2024, we were
recognized as the what's the term?
[1:32:46]
» Good.
>> Very cool.
[1:32:50]
» One of the one of the things too I think
you can't you can't measure is what
[1:32:55]
doesn't happen because they're there.
That's right. It's it's a huge support
[1:33:00]
as a secondary principal especially to
have them there in certain things that a
[1:33:07]
little bit tenuous
but it also prevents so many things from
[1:33:11]
ever happening. I
>> mean View we we don't have to imagine
[1:33:17]
the worst case scenario. we we
experienced the the worst case scenario
[1:33:21]
and so
>> um
[1:33:23]
» yeah the model agency award is what they
received in 2024
[1:33:27]
» right
>> um so proud of our officers and the work
[1:33:31]
that they do in school it's important
it's needed
[1:33:34]
dedicated
[1:33:39]
gladly send my kid to the school
>> thank you thank you
[1:33:43]
» yeah thank you
>> leads us to our Last item that is to
[1:33:49]
adjourn. So I don't know when our next
meeting's scheduled, but I I imagine
[1:33:54]
» Aaron probably knows
>> probably.
[1:33:58]
» There we go.
>> And eventually we're going to host you.
[1:34:02]
» Yes. In our new district office.
>> New district office.
[1:34:05]
» We'll have room to host you.
>> Your course you're always welcome here.
[1:34:12]
» Thank you. Thank you all for coming.
It's good to see all of you. And
[1:34:14]
» thank you for all of you and
>> take care. Good luck with
[1:34:23]
» my support.
[1:34:36]
Great meeting. Thanks everyone.
[1:34:49]
name.
[1:35:16]
Yeah. Yeah.