[0:06] I'd like to call to the August 24 meeting on the orange and select list to water, begin with a roll call vote, again to my right, Allen Elken here. Mark Apteno.

[0:21] I'm Alan Snell here.

[0:23] First Officer, President.

[0:24] Michael Curtis, president.

[0:26] I want to ask everyone to rise to the close of leadership.

[0:42] One nation.

[0:43] One nation.

[0:44] One nation.

[1:06] One nation.

[1:09] One nation.

[1:11] One nation.

[1:22] of the inaugural Allen Snell Sportsmanship Award member.

[1:27] We'd like to recognize you for that recognition.

[1:32] Well, thank you very much.

[1:34] I'm kind of surprised, but a nice one.

[1:35] Yep.

[1:36] A nice one.

[1:38] Well deserved.

[1:39] Well deserved.

[1:40] Very well deserved.

[1:45] You got something you're doing when you're hanging around with me.

[1:48] Yeah.

[1:52] You're giving up money for a building,

[1:54] so they just get you to hold up there.

[1:57] And that might be the noise in the building.

[2:05] Public call, men

[2:10] crash pick up adjustments.

[2:12] Number one, Florida's to 5'16 to be on Friday.

[2:18] So brutal late road, talking with the new contract,

[2:21] the way that brutal late road and the snow's corner

[2:25] and the way the schedule works, they

[2:28] would like to adjust the lower end of brutal late road

[2:33] to be picked up on Thursday.

[2:36] It's, they come down, snow is corner, and then kind of cross-bots and head out to the lake

[2:43] on Thursday, and then they would like to do that other end of rural Lake Root on Friday.

[2:49] The first half coming out of Root, and then they'll turn down bogs and go up Johnsonville.

[2:58] They're learning their root, they have had some hiccups along the way, but they resolved

[3:06] all their issues.

[3:07] They're very happy with them.

[3:09] This is the only thing they're asking is to make that adjustment to that small section

[3:18] of rural acreage, kind of doing it the last couple of weeks.

[3:22] All right, so it

[3:30] makes sense and whatever works, but that breaks and everything I mean, that's...

[3:34] As long as they're really settling down and they're getting...

[3:38] They're getting it.

[3:39] There's a lot of little dirt roads and what they're learning.

[3:44] You know, Rocky Shore is always the learning curve.

[3:48] You know, when do we pick it up?

[3:49] When do we go?

[3:50] How far down do we go?

[3:51] and so I can't go too far because you can't turn around.

[3:56] I'll get you some really down there.

[4:00] I think we got it worked out and you know,

[4:02] they rotated a couple of drivers in to learn the route.

[4:07] Okay, you've got a question.

[4:08] Just a public comment after this trash discussion.

[4:14] All right.

[4:15] Anything else on the trash?

[4:18] Yes.

[4:18] How would they notify people that their day is changing?

[4:23] I'm going to write a letter this week to let them know.

[4:28] Addresses.

[4:29] Yeah, and

[4:33] put it in the U.S. Postal Service.

[4:37] Sorry.

[4:39] Well, we have better option.

[4:41] Well, you have to pick them up and deliver them for us.

[4:46] Pay them.

[4:48] Pay them what we pay with postal service.

[4:50] Give me the exact same amount of money.

[4:52] Yeah.

[4:52] Okay.

[4:53] Seven dollars.

[4:55] I think it's in the board.

[5:02] I have been told that

[5:05] Postal Service should be picking out now that

[5:08] Amazon has pulled back a lot of their work from them.

[5:12] Apparently they were doing a lot of their carrying

[5:16] but now Amazon is building their own buildings.

[5:18] Yeah.

[5:19] I don't care about them.

[5:21] They're drones.

[5:37] Just wanted to give an update on the boat landing project last Tuesday we had pre-bid

[5:48] meeting for any interested contractors.

[5:52] We had five different contractors attend after presentation and providing them with some

[6:00] updated documents we went to the site and we hit it probably ten minutes after low tide

[6:11] So give them, give them a good opportunity to see what the site looks like at low tide conditions, and

[6:20] walk around the site, answer a few questions, Alan went with me, any comments?

[6:31] A lot of interest?

[6:34] Good question.

[6:34] I'm curious who showed up for that.

[6:40] I've got the list.

[6:43] Those actually are the list of additional contractors

[6:48] that we sent, known as altitude.

[6:52] So there's the five iron on here?

[6:55] No.

[6:56] The additional ones, earth works.

[7:01] I had the list in its home

[7:03] and I was going to bring the copy, distribute it with more sergeants, and

[7:13] I can't recall.

[7:13] Maynard was in Maynard's work.

[7:18] Maynard's work. Maynard was in Maynard's work.

[7:21] Who's the brewer guy?

[7:25] And we did have a paving on it.

[7:34] and then we had one individual from a paving company that was interested and he was the

[7:43] one party that was interested in going out to the East Oriented Business Park to look

[7:51] at the available rocks that are rip wrapped that's available for the project.

[7:59] So subsequent to that, I sent out emails to those parties that are listed on that sheet.

[8:10] They were listed by the main DOT as approved for marine projects.

[8:18] We've gotten a response back from one party, Proc.

[8:24] Proc Marine?

[8:25] Yeah.

[8:25] Proc Marine.

[8:26] And they said it's more of a Earth-moving project, and they built their docks, and there's

[8:37] another party on that band-crunk contract, which the email listing for that gets a kickback

[8:47] on male,

[8:51] undilatable. They still had a bruise. So I don't know. I'm not sure if it requires

[8:57] it to be issued from a different male box, other than for me, but it could kick back.

[9:04] And a website, museum, air, actual, for contact information, send it here.

[9:13] I mean Wednesday is the deadline for written questions to be submitted if they have any

[9:23] regarding their RFP September 4th is a date that we have to respond to those written

[9:37] questions September 14th. Bids are due by September 10th 4pm.

[9:47] The select board meeting

[9:48] of September 14th is when we will open and receive bids and September 18th is a date

[9:58] which is a Friday that we expect, hopefully to be in a position to respond to the

[10:05] bidders and select a linking bidder. So that's the timeline.

[10:14] We did receive Army

[10:16] Corps of Engineer Permit, the

[10:22] pro offering of the permit, and we thought that

[10:29] that was going to be straightforward,

[10:30] but they have a different date

[10:33] from what the main DEP approved for the in water work.

[10:39] Time period, which was supposed to be November

[10:41] to, we've asked for an extension to April 30th.

[10:47] So November through April 30th

[10:49] is when you can do in water work.

[10:53] The Army Corps of Engineers permit that they offered said

[10:57] we had to complete the work by April 24th, 26th, so we've blown that into date for a permit

[11:10] that was issued last week, and they also, they cut back on what the DP had approved as

[11:20] an in-water work period. So we've got to figure out who has jurisdiction. Probably the Army Corps,

[11:32] whoever has the most cloud, but we also have to square away the date that allows us to do the work

[11:39] next people. It's what the cotton pace got missed. Happened all the time. And we also had

[11:51] started the Department of Ags Conservation and Forestry. They had a deadline date for addressing

[12:00] submerged lands issue and we missed the fact that they in February of this year they said we had to

[12:10] to ask for an extension or complete the submittal

[12:14] by May 4th of 2025.

[12:18] So we blew that deadline,

[12:21] because it was already at 2026.

[12:25] So our engineers have re-submitted

[12:27] the submerged land permit or cost

[12:32] and a legal statement regarding the fact

[12:35] that we believe we own the land from high tide

[12:39] to low tide and it's not owned by some other unknown party or a party that wrote the

[12:48] D 1928. So we still have a few things worked out but we're moving forward. So that's

[13:00] where I'm wearing this don't tread on me. It's a t-shirt.

[13:07] It's been fun interesting.

[13:09] Hopefully, we'll get some bids and we'll be in a position to square up these issues because

[13:18] I already told the contract this last Tuesday that the in-water work is squid until April

[13:26] 30 of the next two years.

[13:31] Sure.

[13:31] Let me take it out.

[13:33] Bruce.

[13:34] Yeah.

[13:34] Just a comment and a question.

[13:35] not always, but typically Army Corps will trump the DEP. They'll carry the day, usually.

[13:42] The question they have are the contractors, were they made aware of the budget limitation?

[13:49] No, they were not. They were provided the bit listing with all the materials that

[13:58] Jacobs had identified as being necessary for the project, and it would require them to

[14:06] put in the unit prices that they were going to be charging the project that resulted in

[14:13] the total bid that was part of the work.

[14:19] I imagine if the bid has come in high, I mean, obviously, it can't award it.

[14:27] Right, well we don't have any obligations to make the decision on September 18th.

[14:34] We have the right to reject all bids.

[14:37] And we'll have a few other questions.

[14:39] The reason to reject.

[14:41] We have limited.

[14:42] We have limited amount of money to work with.

[14:44] Right.

[14:48] Yeah.

[14:48] What would be fortunate to get something within budget I think.

[14:51] I hope we do.

[14:52] So we certainly are anxious to be able to award a contract so that the end of the

[15:00] What a work can be done in that November through April, whatever date is selected window, so on. But as they say time will tell. Yes, so. That's for sure. Does that include the big package that went out? Does that include all the parking lot, all of that, that's the full? Yes. Yes. Yeah, the provision, the upper parking, the facilities with the holding tank and the solar lights.

[15:29] and some modifications to the mid-level small parking lot

[15:34] that require a vegetative buffer to be placed down

[15:41] the gradient of that parking lot.

[15:43] Plus, we informed the Nop Scott River Patlin Trail folks

[15:49] that their current site with their privy and their path

[15:53] to the picnic tables will be impacted by the future parking

[15:59] lot. So then you're going indoors. Yes. And we offer to help them look at our site and see

[16:09] if they can find an area that's not too close to the public grounds because one thing they'd like to

[16:16] have is a primitive campsite for their one night pitching up their tent. So where that might be, we don't

[16:25] No, but we'll work with them or adjacent property owners to see if they can find a suitable area, and we will go from there.

[16:37] So a lot happened now in the next month or so.

[16:42] We'll see how the permit language sorts out.

[16:54] I think the big thing with the intertidal was getting that opinion to do the submerged

[17:08] land permit was I thought was going to be the biggest challenge bar in the last six

[17:18] years. The state was unclear whether we own the land, and we didn't own the land in

[17:27] the state yet, and so whether we applied, as I saw in the state owners, it shouldn't

[17:37] you know, but they were not budgeted and needed, you know, this opinion, a title, a

[17:45] opinion it was. It didn't make sense, but. Right. From colonial times, if a

[17:54] dean says that a boundary runs on by a river, that means low tide, that the

[18:07] stakes at on the land, and that was placed, I think, in the deed in 1928-29, and I think

[18:17] it was just to identify when the city of Brewer acquired the property for their use as

[18:24] a gravel pit that they want to know where the shoreline was at, 1929, they didn't worry about

[18:32] high astronomical tides or things like that, but for, you know, since the 1700s, a property

[18:42] owner owns to the low tide line, if it uses certain terms and phrases on and by the water

[18:49] means, you know, the water extends to the low tide and, you know, that's the boundary.

[18:55] If you mention that I missed it did they accept that it's the intertile is ours to the

[19:01] move to that that legal submittal was was just offered today because that's the

[19:09] one that supposedly we had to have an answer by May 4th of 2025 when they

[19:16] You should have let it to us in February of 2026.

[19:21] And my editing skills failed to note that, you know,

[19:25] said 2025 for the deadlines.

[19:28] Otherwise we would have flagged it earlier.

[19:30] But I think we did when we had a telephone conference call

[19:34] with the Department of Acts, folks, we said, you know,

[19:37] securing surveyors to survey a new boundary

[19:42] foundry that goes to the low, low tide line is challenging that we can

[19:50] pursue either tidying opinions or some other means methods.

[19:56] They wouldn't accept just a town attorney's statement that required, you know,

[20:01] someone that's in the business by the end of the surveys.

[20:10] The question, another question,

[20:15] I think, I

[20:21] don't find who would select the word meaning

[20:23] minutes of August 10, 2026, or the motion.

[20:27] Some will.

[20:28] The motion might, so I'll say that.

[20:31] I think that by Chris, the first one, I wasn't any discussion, I was in favor, I was zero,

[20:58] I'm going to make all the business, and I'm

[21:04] going to sign a certificate of settlement

[21:06] for Cali Colburn on outstanding real estate taxes committed in 2025, but I'm going to

[21:14] for that.

[21:15] Yep.

[21:17] Second.

[21:18] Second.

[21:19] Second.

[21:20] Second by.

[21:21] Am I?

[21:22] Yep.

[21:22] Mark.

[21:23] Okay.

[21:24] Any discussions?

[21:25] All in favor?

[21:27] I do.

[21:30] I do.

[21:31] I do.

[21:31] Discussion.

[21:32] I do.

[21:33] I do.

[21:33] Discussion.

[21:34] Discussion.

[21:34] I do.

[21:35] I do.

[21:36] I do.

[21:37] to be located behind the pond on River Pond.

[21:44] That's right in front of me.

[21:45] Yep.

[21:46] I've agreed.

[21:49] Dick Campbell is here.

[21:51] He's been working on this, his design,

[21:57] which turned this part of the floor, meaning over to him,

[22:00] and this guy's what he's been doing,

[22:03] and answer any questions?

[22:09] Just Campbell, he'll have the floor.

[22:11] Thank you, sir.

[22:14] My name is Dick Campbell and a few of us have been working on

[22:19] not quite as diligently as Pat on a Duba Freeman.

[22:25] He's a Duba Freeman writer and his own party beer

[22:32] and lands

[22:38] for you.

[22:50] On three sides.

[23:02] All right.

[23:03] Yep.

[23:04] Okay.

[23:05] OK.

[23:07] So soupade has come up with what we think might be a good bronze

[23:16] monument statue, and we've been pricing that.

[23:24] And we've gotten in terms of the statue itself.

[23:27] We've gotten prices from 300,000 to about 12,000.

[23:32] So, Japanese can do a lot cheaper than our local islands as a spread.

[23:39] So, we're looking at this form of figure in either a six foot high or a five foot high.

[23:49] Five foot is more realistic but in many cases bronze statues get bigger to give the illusion of its significance.

[24:01] So on the second page, or the first page of the drawings, I marked the

[24:13] plot of land

[24:15] which we own as a town, and I thought quite odd, but the pound is 25% on the land, the

[24:28] rest of it's on the right away.

[24:38] So what the thought would be, and I have talked with Evan Epic and Chris from Epic, about

[24:51] maybe using him.

[25:01] I'm using that entrance, which I understand they want to improve, so a couple of thoughts.

[25:11] My original thought was to come in to the entrance and go parallel on the back line

[25:19] of town property but in fact somebody mentioned that we might want to go

[25:26] perpendicular to be able to see what's coming in both directions who knows how

[25:33] much activity is going to be in that parking area or park but the other thought

[25:40] that I've heard is that Epic would like to lose a fence back and improve that entrance.

[25:51] So if that's the case, a perpendicular maybe at the existing point of fence lines that

[25:58] chain link fence might be a point.

[26:03] I haven't been out in the back to find out what size parking lot would become the ultimate

[26:09] a destination for the office building parking,

[26:14] which is somewhere under the sketch

[26:17] of the broad statue on this plane.

[26:23] In terms of surface, not suggesting

[26:27] that an asphalt surface necessary

[26:30] through quarter of three-eighths inch minus

[26:34] which is a granite, ledge product packed,

[26:38] pretty hard and makes a very good surface which cost a lot less. The thought would

[26:46] be to go into this area you can barely see this line but if you can see the

[26:56] back southern point of the property and a new fence line maybe a boy fence that

[27:03] mark here. If you continue down to the right away there's a little which piece of

[27:12] land that might be good to get from epic whether it's a deed or an

[27:22] easement because as you as you look down closer to the road there are four

[27:28] major oak trees that would be nice to keep and then selectively keep the deciduous trees

[27:39] on the park area which would then extend over to woods, maybe the new property line.

[27:47] There's an awful lot of old field pines which start branching low that are this big around.

[28:02] So those pines probably would be nice to get removed and just open it up and leave the

[28:09] the sinuous trees for cover and what I've done is located if in fact we have the option

[28:20] to use that property inside the three major oak trees would place the statue in a park

[28:34] sign just outside the now presently owned town property, beside the pound. So as you're

[28:44] driving by, the pound is fairly significant as you come up the hill but beyond that it

[28:51] would open up and look into this five or six foot bronze statue on a rock. When we did the

[29:00] Chamber of Freedom Park. We've got flame to just deliver some big slabs of rocks.

[29:08] If you remember the slave, which is over the shaft, that was oral tradition, it was

[29:15] a high watermark of the flake to freedom. There's a major stone, probably two feet thick and quite large.

[29:28] So I put that up so if any traffic came down it wouldn't clean out the slave on top of the shaft.

[29:37] So get something like that to put the bronze on.

[29:41] And then also you can see a bronze plaque.

[29:47] Get your ice, or the final thing, they just put a big plaque about a ice harvest thing on the brew of a walkway.

[29:56] There's something like that on a more verticals.

[30:00] So, that kind of directly behind the pound, and then sprinkle some picnic tables throughout the area. The other thought is maybe you just take down the growth and chip it to make that the surface instead of getting into a lot of grass and loam and heavy maintenance.

[30:26] So, that's kind of the thought at this point.

[30:30] And that's what I've done to work with,

[30:39] basically, the bottom you can see when I come up with a concept for your consideration.

[30:49] So whatever you pleasure, we consider continuing this to a point where I can talk with the town and epic

[31:01] to see if the option to pick up that piece of pie would be available.

[31:10] And from there, if it's your pleasure and the new epic would allow, then we pursue estimates

[31:21] and then come back to you for that.

[31:25] So, I've talked to Evan both about the property and potential fundraising options to do.

[31:35] We'll come back to you with both estimates and a plan for fundraising.

[31:44] I think I pretty much covered some thoughts.

[31:48] Have you worked with my brain to shut off?

[31:52] Who is the lady who brought that?

[32:01] Sorry, my brain was shut up, so you guys, yeah, that's kind of another topic, and I'm going to get on to the OT and signage, so maybe I go on to that next,

[32:23] so Pat's been running on top of this, it's just really wonderful.

[32:27] So, I've been talking to the DOT, both the Bangalore office and Agassad, and I just came

[32:38] upon the person who will be in the position of the finalizing signage throughout the state

[32:48] who is retiring and moving on and something, so the community person coming in, but the

[32:56] The question that I had of them was signage in right away, and the conclusion I got was

[33:06] four by four wooden posts are considered breakaway, so they could be within the right

[33:12] away.

[33:16] My most recent was a message to the lady who wasn't there today and concludes her position

[33:24] tomorrow, but we'll find out. The breakaway option for having these signs in the right

[33:32] away instead of way back. And the thought is to see if we can relocate the landing sign

[33:42] back in front of the telephone pole and anything else from the zoo signage at the

[33:53] field where she headed up to Switzerland and maybe down at the waste station and

[34:03] thought it had been maybe put upon there or something we could have a larger

[34:08] your side with more of the story, and then have something also where she headed up through

[34:18] Johnson Mill and out to Switzerland.

[34:22] And then we've got two four by fours in North, Oregon, right at the top of Brough Hill

[34:29] that you know might have another rendition of maybe the statute or the story of something.

[34:43] The 4x6, if you turn it to where the 4-inch is the majority travel of the, that's the

[34:54] break the weight. And what is? Yeah. And then if you go six by six, you have to drill holes

[35:04] on one inch hole every eight inches or a three quarter inch hole. There's a way to make it a

[35:13] break the weight by using, if you want to use a six by six, I think a four by six is plenty bigger

[35:21] And as long as you turn it so it's, it's four inches the way it needs to break.

[35:30] Yeah, but all my forwards that we have on the signs now seem to be okay, but yeah, that's great.

[35:36] Yeah.

[35:44] Chris, would this type of project be eligible for TIFF funds?

[35:49] or is it different categories such as it, the science would be, the park would be,

[35:59] oh it would be, okay. Yeah it's, the recreational stuff is

[36:05] typical, the line for better work. Is this something that Public Works could do

[36:13] some of the earth work on?

[36:16] I think so. I think back to the roadway epic will

[36:22] give us an easement, whatever we want, to the pilot sheet. They won't be

[36:28] that over to us because that roadway is already permitted and the road

[36:32] open is permitted and we don't want to go through that. It's also permitted to be

[36:39] underneath the high tension.

[36:41] So, we would be well advised to keep it in that thick and just go with some easement

[36:48] or 99-year lease or whatever.

[36:52] So, there are more than willing to do whatever.

[36:56] There has to be the selective cut in what you've done here as far as keeping that buffer

[37:02] from the facility in the public.

[37:04] So, but we talked about that, you know.

[37:09] So the only

[37:12] question or comment I have is to, if we do go forward with the Azuba Statue,

[37:25] I really like it down in South Orange and down, you know, if we do that fire bond and have

[37:30] a park that needed to have that a zoo per park in South London, and have this be more geared

[37:39] towards the pound, the history of the pound, and do I know?

[37:48] That's mildly, you know, thank you.

[37:53] But I'll take it anywhere.

[37:58] But Christopher, what's the likelihood that D.O.

[38:00] Which is going to give us any ability to work with self-right to lead us that way.

[38:08] The DOT permission would be just coming in through the way station is what I'm working

[38:18] with.

[38:19] It's a Larry Pelleteer property that Larry certainly could give us the permission to come

[38:27] in an access step on through his front yard, the DOT at the south end of the

[38:37] waste station is what I would consider effectively the path of least resistance.

[38:47] Going through DOT is definitely the path of most resistance.

[38:51] But the way getting traffic control and coming in that way,

[38:56] that we could come in through the wave station, that would be, you know, so that's the

[39:08] long answer to that, that if they do give it to us, it would only be for, you know,

[39:13] access industry that we could still have the pawn, the five pawn and the part, you know,

[39:22] on Larry's property.

[39:23] And

[39:27] all this stuff was going to end up being managed by conservation in the end, right?

[39:32] Whatever gets built.

[39:35] I would say giving

[39:40] the over to you everything that we have in the area of the Strasnau

[39:44] probably.

[39:44] Yeah, I think public work would do the mowing and what not, but it would be cool

[39:56] to have something

[39:56] done around the pond.

[39:58] The pond.

[40:00] Which would get more visibility? I would assume the pound would get more visibility.

[40:04] What it is?

[40:06] I mean, the idea of having them, if we're going to put a firepond in down there, then why not make it apart?

[40:12] That's the only idea. There's a lot of visibility down there.

[40:15] There are all the teams. Let's be open.

[40:19] That might be kind of cool.

[40:20] When the second question did you ever come up to the pound?

[40:25] Did she stay in the Southern?

[40:26] She had four goats.

[40:29] July of, did she run us past the pound?

[40:34] No.

[40:34] She definitely didn't run us past the pound.

[40:36] No, yeah.

[40:37] She went up.

[40:39] Yeah, that's on the side of where she did her thing.

[40:43] Yeah, that was a good neighborhood.

[40:45] It was smart.

[40:46] Yeah.

[40:47] Yeah.

[40:47] Well, it would be, I mean, it's not necessarily a bad spot.

[40:51] It's a good spot.

[40:52] but I think South-Arton would be putting some focus

[40:56] in South-Arton would be kind of cool, but yeah.

[40:59] But doing something at the pound, I think,

[41:02] is a grand idea.

[41:04] Yeah, there's no part in that at the pound.

[41:07] Yeah, it would be nice to have the pound be something.

[41:13] Yep, and it's not a need to roar.

[41:16] It's maybe we can do it.

[41:17] Yeah.

[41:25] If you're interested, I'll pursue it, if you're not at home.

[41:29] Sounds amazing.

[41:31] There's interest in it for sure, and I'll tell you something.

[41:35] So I need to vote for you.

[41:41] I want to make a motion.

[41:42] Go ahead.

[41:43] I would move that we pursue plans for remodeling the panel.

[41:50] Second.

[41:51] Thank you.

[41:52] Motion by Alan.

[41:53] Second by Mike.

[41:54] And discussion.

[41:55] I assume it has been sufficient discussion.

[41:57] How was in favor?

[41:59] Five, zero, go for it.

[42:00] Thank you.

[42:01] Thank you.

[42:06] Okay.

[42:07] I don't.

[42:08] Stanley.

[42:09] Complete.

[42:10] I'm in love.

[42:11] Discussing an overview on the Greenfield Trust.

[42:14] family attacking T.L. through the mediation project on the grounds of the public

[42:20] doing an observation day with UN Bill in the schedule of Wednesday, August 26, to

[42:26] the end of the 26th, early 30th, or early 30th, the orange is being together. This is a

[42:32] draw in session in the UN Bill's possible hash-staff and engineering on-site

[42:53] So, this project has been ongoing, the river, perhaps a river of intermediates and trusts.

[43:02] I don't know the history, you know, and they're doing this thin layer capin' and they

[43:11] went through the same struggle that I both longed to get in permit from Army Corps of

[43:19] Engineers and permission to, you know, their entire project is in the intertidal zone and

[43:25] And so I can only imagine what they went through.

[43:31] I have two of them here today, they are up for the week.

[43:35] And so I invited them here to answer any technical questions

[43:38] or whatever.

[43:40] But I've worked with them for the last three or four years

[43:45] given that permission to work on higher land

[43:48] and get in touch with land owners and just trying

[43:51] to facilitate this project along.

[43:53] And they're finally here in town, and as you might have heard the last couple of weeks,

[44:01] they've been staging some pretty heavy equipment down on the gray property down by Kindred

[44:08] Spirits.

[44:10] And they're actually going to stop the project this week.

[44:13] And so Wednesday, they have this drop-in session where they're actually going to have people

[44:19] act the picnic area and you'll be able to view the actual process taking place right

[44:25] in front of you and so they've been very much proactive in outreach and with the public

[44:32] throughout the whole thing and you know I again tried to facilitate that with them you

[44:39] know I just wanted to make you aware of it, the public aware of it you know anybody with

[44:45] any type of questions or you know want to see it happen you know nobody down there with this one

[44:51] You know, 8 to 11, 8 to 30 to 11 to 30.

[45:00] Questions? What is the

[45:05] product that's actually going down? Yes, I'm Cindy Brooks from Greenfield. And I have with me Betsy Burns. So thanks for the opportunity to speak with you. But the material that they're placing on the end of our flight is clean sand. It's been source-lovely. They did actually start. We had our

[45:33] first full day of camping on Friday and last week they worked, they've taken Sundays off

[45:38] that they're working six days a week to work within a work window that's been authorized

[45:46] by the state and on the board of engineers.

[45:50] What keeps it in place, gravity?

[45:55] So erosion of the river isn't going to move that sand down there.

[46:01] I was expecting to have some kind of a, what do I want to say, some kind of minor, some kind of, yeah.

[46:09] Really, when I first saw this being a pilot plan, a pilot project that will go three to five years and be monitored throughout that entire period.

[46:21] Perfect.

[46:21] So,

[46:23] yeah, we're hoping that, but it's part of the process for this river's natural process

[46:33] of putting sand from upstream on the flats.

[46:38] This is just accelerating time frame, yeah, then we'll do that.

[46:45] So if you're able to come on Wednesday, the schedule is being is governed by high tide.

[46:51] And so that's when we can see the most activity and the broadcast system will be placed in sand is the expectation.

[47:00] Unless there's some issue with the equipment for weathering.

[47:10] Very much appreciate the cooperation and support from the town of Washington.

[47:17] Thank you and other comments.

[47:21] You'll recall a couple of years ago, they put a camera in that picnic grounds area so

[47:27] that they could monitor over the winter months, the ice that would build on the action

[47:33] network curve and so yeah they've been at this for a couple of years already and I had

[47:41] the opportunity, I had, my friend and I went down there on a sad day and went to the picnic

[47:47] grounds and saw the barge unit there and the floats and the tide was very low, so of course

[47:56] there was no activity, then decided to drive down the gray shore lane and met the safety

[48:03] officer as he was leaving at 1.30 in afternoon and chatted and Eastwood was constant and spent

[48:10] the week here managing the safety aspects of the project and I was very impressed with

[48:15] with, you know, what they do, they have safety meetings, first half an hour, at the beginning

[48:21] of each work day, big emphasis, you know, he said, hey, if this was a normal day, you'd

[48:28] have to have heart hat and safety shoes and all of that. So, very, very good company. And

[48:35] then you mentioned that the expert was Matt Sunday who happened to be still in the trailer,

[48:40] But by the time Jeff and I had finished talking, Matt was through for the day and closed the gate.

[48:47] But it's a good operation and hopefully I'll chance to go down and see it.

[48:54] And as they say, they're supposed to go to the picnic grounds.

[49:01] Between 831 and 30 this place.

[49:04] But it's quite a sight.

[49:05] the picnic grounds, the beautiful ones, they're in East Cove number 2-3, that's even

[49:12] built 3-7. Quite an operation.

[49:18] In that six acre area, how far above the picnic area approximately does that go on the

[49:26] river?

[49:27] It's the two properties, they're two privately owned properties, one is north, and one is

[49:33] to the south. So yeah, and the property has been surveyed. So they're placing the sand

[49:40] in that survey area and that was permitted by the state in the park.

[49:47] There's a question. How thick is the sand layer moved to be?

[49:51] 46 inches. Is the area where the trial being done? Is that an area of any significant

[50:00] is that representative you think of most of the area that you plan on doing eventually?

[50:08] We hope so.

[50:10] It was elected based on the mercury concentrations as well as the ability to secure the plant

[50:18] under access because the coves are where mercury has deposited because the energy in the river

[50:27] slows down.

[50:28] So it drops.

[50:30] Yeah, kind of terrible.

[50:33] Compared to the sand, it's very heavy.

[50:36] Because I was thinking, my concern all along has been,

[50:40] it was brought up earlier, is the flow of the current.

[50:44] Is it going to displace a lot of that material that's being

[50:47] put in as a cap?

[50:50] And the technology is available nowadays.

[50:53] You could put down two or three inches and then,

[50:56] And then, you know, scatter some little tracking devices, and then you finish tapping it, and if those things travel, you could track that.

[51:06] I mean, this great technology available, and it's not that expensive, and then you know.

[51:13] That's a great idea. I'm not aware of that, but I would like to share that with you.

[51:18] It's pretty easy, but it goes a little tag anywhere.

[51:22] It gets backpack, someone's pad that you can turn about on.

[51:26] You can do it all the time.

[51:28] It's not your responsibility.

[51:30] Five.

[51:32] We'll send a drop.

[51:33] We have one.

[51:34] We have one.

[51:35] We have one.

[51:37] We have one.

[51:38] We have one.

[51:40] We have one.

[51:46] There's rape rap on the picnic park, floating area, that's why I find it.

[51:51] They, I think that they might have it at the end of the week.

[51:54] Seeing that it is.

[51:56] Yeah.

[51:59] Yeah, we did not.

[52:01] We're just looking at the natural system.

[52:04] And normally, yeah.

[52:05] So that would be funny to chatty or something.

[52:07] and you're on the stands and you're going to get,

[52:10] because our goal is to understand whether it's actually

[52:14] the work that we've done to change the normal.

[52:18] Yeah, and it's a powerful river.

[52:20] So I suppose I would call it a big potential issue.

[52:25] Thank you.

[52:26] Great.

[52:27] Any other comments?

[52:28] The upriver barge that's there.

[52:31] Does that represent the northernmost points

[52:34] of the four or six inch capping area or will the cat go up beyond that I don't

[52:43] know Keith I haven't actually been down there yet we've been visiting all the

[52:48] project trust. Yes is it a barge type of setup that's visible from the picnic

[52:56] ground. You don't know the answer to that? I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

[53:01] It's marking the order that you have.

[53:04] On the comment, he's called three. Is that one?

[53:07] He's put on your mapbook, yeah. On my map or that map, yeah.

[53:12] On that book, yeah. Yes, although it might be covered up with that shoreline zoning area.

[53:24] I'm going to

[53:31] ask you a question.

[53:34] All right.

[53:34] I had 12.

[53:35] I'm in every floor.

[53:39] I'm going to skip over it.

[53:41] Yeah.

[53:41] He didn't feel my gun.

[53:43] I'm going to get him to the mound.

[53:46] Get back at me for that announcement of the award.

[53:50] Yeah.

[53:51] I'm not a good evening.

[53:56] The down-filed wings this past week, there were 62 wings that got out.

[54:01] filed on Friday. That was down from I believe 68 from last year so we're right on pace

[54:11] or a little below so Kelly does a great job sending reminders out and getting everybody

[54:18] in and the best she can. As far as the solar array we have finally received our slow

[54:27] to permit. They approved the roadway and so public works is up there going to try to put

[54:33] the access road in this week before school starts and then the final bid you will be

[54:40] going out for installation of that. So I don't know when the solaration you've done, but

[54:46] So, you know, permanent is finally complete and, you know, behind it.

[54:53] And the last comment that we started the audit, the field work, this last week, they were

[55:03] in here.

[55:05] You know, there was three of them this year and they tried to get it all done in one day.

[55:09] and both they got down and no issue found yet, and by the end of September, they show

[55:18] that some preliminary numbers for you and seeing

[55:26] the glaring arrows and everything

[55:30] appears to be falling within their budgeted range.

[55:39] Questions or comments?

[55:41] That's proof.

[55:42] Chris, I had a question.

[55:44] So what's the status of the permitting work

[55:47] that was discussed for the historic business practice?

[55:52] Yeah, we received an initial proposal

[55:55] and there was two gentlemen that were going out of town

[56:00] for me and so they were going to get back

[56:05] but we have an initial proposal.

[56:11] An issue because it doesn't

[56:12] isn't what we wanted.

[56:14] there. They had to review their old wetland stuff and it wasn't, it was done when blue

[56:23] and it was going in, and they had to revisit the wetland and had to do a couple different,

[56:32] so it was like a draft proposal. It was, it was more preliminary that they had to nail

[56:38] down some of their specifics. There was a couple I call them buffers that Blue

[56:45] Ed hadn't put in on the right hand side of the road and so they wanted to

[56:51] confirm those buffers and could they be in the end of those or could they move

[56:57] those. So you're weighing on them. Yes but they should be back, they would

[57:04] It should be back this week, but we should get everything finalized this week.

[57:10] So you think there may be over the fall and winter they can do that?

[57:13] Yeah.

[57:15] That's a good one.

[57:16] Yeah.

[57:18] I don't know about the wetlands, the brunt pools.

[57:26] That's what they had to review.

[57:28] The wetlands are the brunt pools because there's a couple out there.

[57:38] Can you give us an update on what's going on over there?

[57:44] Top of my head, they pour the new floor, they rebuild the reverse osmosis.

[57:54] They are in the middle or three quarters of the way through testing every single valve

[58:00] or a switch or electrical connection.

[58:06] didn't you say there were something like 500 different circuits for that

[58:10] more than that, more than that?

[58:13] Yeah, I heard that number 500, that's a lot of circuits.

[58:18] Yeah, trucks today.

[58:20] Yeah, they're seeing the operation they were starting today,

[58:26] commercial disposal, construction, debris, and demo.

[58:31] They had a meeting with the Fire Department and talked about a video surveillance for municipal

[58:40] solid ways.

[58:42] I believe they're going to open that back up closer to when they get into the big construction

[58:49] phase when they start doing the boiler and all of that.

[58:55] So they'll have some type of security on site to be kind of secure in the facility for

[59:03] all that conduct and equipment and product.

[59:07] And so, to kind of kill two birds at once, they'll have the security system, the security

[59:14] control for the equipment also be the fire control as well.

[59:18] So, there's a battery system that has been the whole operation, the control system

[59:33] of the plant is run on batteries, and that is if there's a catastrophic line down or

[59:41] something goes down that they still have control of the system and that they can bring

[59:47] the whole plant down, even if there's a, you know, a line cut or whatnot, and there was batteries

[59:54] were at 35 years old, so they replaced those.

[1:00:00] So they're going through the system. The steam side has been cleaned out. They haven't blown it out with the water yet. But they blown it out with air. And as they test the valve, they blow on another section to pressurize it and test the valve.

[1:00:19] So I'm

[1:00:26] wondering,

[1:00:28] Henry and I, that's a talent manager for the next report, isn't he pointing

[1:00:33] the fight up on us?

[1:00:34] We were reporting my packet.

[1:00:38] Chief, I like, I expect it wasn't going to be here, but it was not.

[1:00:43] Here's in the hands of this region I have to raise.

[1:00:47] He won't be sober for about four or five more days.

[1:00:51] He won't be needing any of that pictures.

[1:00:52] He raised up.

[1:00:54] Definitely.

[1:00:54] like that. We have a month of July record and then the very endless number of entries

[1:01:01] through all of the illness and quite a few illness. The investigation has a non-chemical

[1:01:11] Well, hazardous materials, the injury, also on citizens who were cysts, illness, or

[1:01:23] illness, all the reports, any questions about it, or, you know what I'm asking?

[1:01:31] No, we were able to, because we had people at the station, which every time this happens,

[1:01:39] we bring it up, because so everybody understands it was a drier fire, down with the late

[1:01:45] that they were able to get to very quickly and before I can spread to anything else.

[1:01:52] So having a couple of full-time guys in the department all the time has paid off several times.

[1:02:23] I'm glad to see some progress on the orange and pound in

[1:02:30] South Orange and perhaps some

[1:02:32] of that's what progress effort is always good, one step at a time, I didn't get to have

[1:02:40] look at the floors. I compared what they had. I didn't see they brought in construction

[1:02:53] demolition. It was sort of stuck to that.

[1:02:57] I think they're going to do a temporary

[1:03:00] roof repair so they can start with MSW to say or was that later on? They're starting with

[1:03:07] the CND don't need the roof and then they will eventually go into the MSW but they need

[1:03:15] to, they need that fire awareness system and what that is, you know, they're certainly

[1:03:26] aware that, you know, they can't have another fire down there.

[1:03:32] good

[1:03:36] progress everywhere. I'm good.

[1:03:41] I'm good. The tracks are a little bit easier to get over now, so I'll give them a couple of weeks before I start up again.

[1:03:58] Everything's good. I just do want to have one comment that I was... Well, I won't say misquoted in the Bangor Daily Rag there from Brood Bangor, but they left out half of what I said, they said that they pitched the needles into the river.

[1:04:14] or they watched the needles into the river from the storm drains or from what's on the banks,

[1:04:18] but the bangle would stop giving out needles, then the river probably wouldn't be full of

[1:04:22] the river needles.

[1:04:23] So, anyone?

[1:04:25] You know, once again, once again, they were ragged.

[1:04:29] Good for lying in the cat box.

[1:04:31] So.

[1:04:32] Did you take questions from them, still?

[1:04:35] Oh no, I didn't take any questions.

[1:04:36] They were comments from those people.

[1:04:38] They watched.

[1:04:39] They watched.

[1:04:40] They don't get to hear what I said.

[1:04:44] You did read that so yeah, they didn't reach out to me and ask me for comment, I said, I don't believe it.

[1:04:51] I'm not.

[1:04:53] You see, that's all I have to say.

[1:04:54] You don't give them comments, they make them up.

[1:04:56] They just make up what they want.

[1:04:58] Yeah, typical.

[1:05:00] I have nothing to add beyond the comments on the legal flow here that are over here.

[1:05:03] That's it.

[1:05:06] Do I have to plead the theft?

[1:05:08] Do I have to say?

[1:05:10] Any other comrades coming out of the audience?

[1:05:12] No, we couldn't.

[1:05:13] All right, hearing none, I called one motion to adjourn.

[1:05:16] So moved.

[1:05:17] My mic adjourned second by Chris.

[1:05:20] He nods available.

[1:05:21] All of them.

[1:05:22] I need to zero.

[1:05:24] I need 35.

[1:05:27] 635.

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