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[0:00] 4. Public Participation.
[0:00] 5.A. Minutes from the March 3, 2026, City Council Work Session Meeting. (Heather Barbour, Clerk of Council)
[0:00] 5.B. Minutes from the March 3, 2026, City Council Meeting. (Heather Barbour, Clerk of Council)
[0:00] 5.C. Uptown Parks Permit - 2026 Yoga in the Park ROW 01072. (Jessica Greene, Assistant City Manager)
[0:00] 6. Resolutions.
[0:00] 7. Ordinances.
[0:00] 7.A. First Reading
[0:00] 7.B. Second Reading
[0:00] 8. Announcements & Communications.
[0:00] 8.B. Future Meetings.
[0:00] 8.B.1. Mar 18Board of Building AppealsCourthouse5:30 p.m.Mar 24Board of Zoning Appeals Courthouse6:30 p.m.Apr 1Environmental CommissionMunicipal Building7:00 p.m.Apr 2Housing Advisory CommissionCollege@Elm5:00 p.m.Apr 7City CouncilCourthouse7:30 p.m.Apr 8Historic & Architectural Preservation CommissionCourthouse6:00 p.m.Apr 9Charter Review CommissionMunicipal Building4:00 p.m.Apr 13Oxford Recreation BoardMunicipal Building12:30 p.mApr 13Public Arts Commission of OxfordMunicipal Building5:30 p.m.Apr 14Planning CommissionCourthouse7:00 p.m.Apr 15Board of Building AppealsCourthouse5:30 p.m.Apr17Oxford Parking & Transportation Advisory BoardMunicipal Building9:00 a.m.Apr 21City CouncilCourthouse7:30 p.m.
[0:42] 1. Roll Call.
[1:01] 2. Pledge of Allegiance.
[1:26] 3. Approval of Agenda.
[2:07] 4.A. Proclamation — Education and Sharing Day 2026
[6:35] 4.B. Public Comments
[6:54] 5. Consent Agenda.
[7:19] 6.A. A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into Contract With Axon Enterprise Inc. For Body Worn Camera Equipment, Software, Licensing, Data Storage, User Profiles, And Support For The Police Division At A Cost Not To Exceed $289,800.02 For The Life Of The Contract, Subject To The Law Director’s Approval Of The Contract. (John Jones, Police Chief)
[10:13] 6.B. A Resolution Designating Public Depositories Of Active Public Funds For A Five-Year Period Commencing April 6, 2026 (Heidi Ridenour, Finance Director)
[13:23] 6.C. A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Enter Into A Contract With Atlantic Emergency Solutions For The Purchase Of A 2026 Ram/Horton Ambulance And Specified Options At State Contract Pricing At A Cost Not To Exceed $385,406.17. (John Detherage, Fire Chief)
[16:19] 7.A.1. An Ordinance Repealing Oxford Codified Ordinance Section 507.03 Entitled Fire Civil Citations And Adopting New Oxford Codified Ordinance Section 507.03 Entitled Fire Civil Citations. (John Detherage, ​Fire Chief)
[19:17] 7.B.1. An Ordinance Dedicating Certain City-Owned Real Property Abutting U.S. Route 27 As Public Right-Of-Way.  (Scott Otto, City Engineer)
[22:03] 7.B.2. An Ordinance To Regulate The Rates And Charges To Be Charged And Collected And The Services To Be Rendered By Glenwood Energy Of Oxford, Inc., Its Successors And Assigns, For Gas And Gas Service Furnished To All Of Its Customers Within The Corporate Limits Of The City Of Oxford During The Period Ending April 30, 2029, And Repealing And Superseding Ordinance No. 3689, Which, Together, Previously Regulated Such Rates, Charges, And Services. (Douglas R. Elliott, Jr., City Manager)
[32:33] 7.B.3. An Ordinance Amending Ordinance No. 3844 Supplemental Budget Ordinance Number 1 To Make Supplemental Appropriations For Fiscal Year 2026. (Heidi Ridenour, Finance Director)
[1:06:17] 8.A. Remarks from City Council and City staff.
[1:14:36] 9. Adjourn.

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[0:45] Now we have 730, so I will call the Oxford City Council's regular meetings to order Ms. Barber, you may call the roll.
[0:51] Mr. Vint.
[0:52] Here.
[0:53] Mr. Bracken.
[0:54] Here.
[0:55] Ms. Franklin.
[0:55] Here.
[0:56] Mr. Nellens. Here.
[0:58] Mayor Smith.
[0:59] Here.
[0:59] We will now do the pledge of allegiance if you would like to join us.
[1:07] by the United States of America, and to do our public for persistence, one nation under
[1:15] the digital liquidity and justice law.
[1:27] May I have a motion to approve the agenda?
[1:30] Before we do that, I'd like to add an item to the agenda.
[1:33] If I can add appointments to boards and commissions as item B and then move public comment
[1:39] to item C.
[1:41] All right.
[1:42] May I have a second?
[1:43] Second. Second by Councillor Analyst. All those in favor of the change please say aye. Aye. All right.
[1:50] Now may have a motion to approve the agenda as amended. So moved.
[1:56] Move by Councillor Franklin. Second. Second by Councillor Brecken. All in favor.
[2:01] Please say aye. Aye. All right. We will begin tonight with a proclamation.
[2:13] This is
[2:36] an honor of education and sharing an Oxford.
[2:40] Whereas the basis for continuity of any society is education,
[2:44] in Oxford, the education of our youth is a priority.
[2:47] And whereas in order to achieve its highest goals,
[2:50] education, it's not only in part knowledge,
[2:52] but also to teach students how to live,
[2:55] forming and strengthening their moral character
[2:57] to make better lives for themselves as individuals
[3:00] and for society as a whole,
[3:02] imparting moral and ethical values
[3:04] that have been the better act of society
[3:06] since the dawn of civilization,
[3:07] including the values known as the seven, no-eyed mitzvah.
[3:12] And whereas, a global spiritual leader, the Rebe Rebi,
[3:16] Monarchum Sherson, stressed that a moral and ethical education
[3:19] empowers every individual to develop their full potential
[3:22] in making the world a better place.
[3:24] And whereas such an education can nurture
[3:26] the unity of diverse peoples through encouraging
[3:29] increased acts of goodness and kindness
[3:32] within awareness that every single positive act
[3:35] that even a single positive act can change the world in usher in an era of global peace.
[3:41] And whereas March 29th, 2,026 will mark the 124th anniversary of the Rebase birth.
[3:48] An education sharing day is observed annually on this day in recognition of his outstanding
[3:53] and enduring contributions to the advancement of education, moral values, and child
[3:58] will service throughout the world, serving as a time to pause and reflect on our shared
[4:04] responsibility to ensure that our youth are given the foundation necessary to lead lives rich
[4:08] in purpose, meaning, and fulfillment through service and good works.
[4:13] And therefore, I, Michael Smith, Mayor of the City of Oxero, Ohio, do here by proclaim Sunday
[4:18] March 29th as Education and Sharing Day Oxford and call upon everyone to work together to
[4:24] create a better, brighter, and more promising future for all.
[4:54] Green Street, Good evening, and thank you, Mayor, Council members, and city leaders for this meaningful
[5:00] population, recognizing education and sharing day.
[5:04] Education day, inspired by the Teachings of the Bob of Chorabi,
[5:07] right from now, Samantha Mendel, Schneerson, reminds us that education is not only about knowledge
[5:12] or academic success.
[5:14] True education is about building character, developing responsibility, and inspiring young people
[5:19] to become caring and ethical members of society.
[5:23] In a time when our world faces many challenges, the importance of education that emphasizes
[5:28] kindness, respect, and moral values is greater than ever.
[5:32] When we invest in the future of our children, we invest in the future of our entire community.
[5:36] On behalf of Elvad and the Jewish community, I want to express our appreciation to the city
[5:41] for recognizing education day and for commitment to supporting education and positive values.
[5:47] Together, by strengthening education and nurturing the next generation, we help build
[5:51] a stronger, kinder, and more hopeful future for everyone.
[5:55] Thank you.
[5:56] Thank you.
[5:57] Thank you.
[6:01] All right.
[6:02] We will move on to appointments to boards and commissions.
[6:07] Do I have a motion?
[6:08] Yes.
[6:09] I would like to make a motion that we appoint to the Board of Tax Review, Edna Sutherd, and Chris
[6:16] Skawgland, and the City Manager's appointment to the Board of Tax Review would be Kevin
[6:22] theキun. Second? Second, second but accounts for
[6:27] another. All in favor please say aye. Approved? Great. All right. Now we will move on to public
[6:36] comments. Anyone wishing to address counts about items not on the agenda or on the
[6:40] consent agenda, please come forward at this time and state your name and address for the
[6:44] record.
[6:51] seeing none, we will move on to the consent agenda. I may have a motion to approve
[6:56] the consent agenda.
[6:58] So moved.
[6:58] Second.
[7:00] Move by Councillor Franklin.
[7:01] Second by Councillor Snavely.
[7:03] Any items we are moved tonight?
[7:07] Seeing none, all those in favour of the consent agenda, please say aye.
[7:10] Aye.
[7:11] Opposed?
[7:13] Great.
[7:16] Move to resolutions.
[7:18] Ms. Barber, you may read.
[7:19] The first resolution whenever you're ready.
[7:22] Resolution authorizing the city manager to enter into a contract with Axon Enterprise
[7:28] your heart-branded for body.
[7:30] Foreign camera equipment, software, licensing, data storage, user profiles, and support the police division at a cost not to exceed $289,800 dollars and two cents for the life of the contract subject to the law directors approval of the contract.
[7:47] Motion to adopt.
[7:49] So moved.
[7:50] Second.
[7:51] Move by Councillor Franklin, second by Councillor Renellis.
[7:53] Chief Jones is, thank you Mr. Mayor, it's Council, I want to have Lieutenant Robinson present
[7:59] this item.
[8:00] He was the primary negotiator with Axon in this and knows more of the details than I do.
[8:09] So, thank you Chief Mayor, Council, this is a new contract with Axon Enterprises, they are
[8:15] a body-war camera provider.
[8:17] We've been with them for five years, have been very happy with them.
[8:21] Just like you have with a cell phone in the old days, you have to read a go-shage contract
[8:25] every few years, and we're at that point, so this would allow us to get into 2025 pricing
[8:31] if we get this approved night, so that we don't see that increase.
[8:34] They were able to extend that to us through the first quarter of this year.
[8:38] So we've gone back and forth, and I think we've got a good contract in front of you, your resolution
[8:43] will allow us to see the manager sign that at his convenience.
[8:48] All right, is there anyone from the public who would like to address this resolution before
[8:52] Council. All right, seeing none? Council questions, discussion?
[8:59] I'm always interested in the pre-record time. I've brought this up before. I was
[9:03] wondering what this is the same. How long is it? Can we set it?
[9:07] It's the same system we've had for the past five years. We've had success with getting new
[9:11] equipment. And we have found that the time, so great for us. It is 30 seconds
[9:17] look back on the times, the audio will not start until it's activated by the officer.
[9:23] Yeah.
[9:24] I always push for the longer time because I think it adds so much more context to a lot of situations, sometimes it's not necessary, but that's a little separate from the purchase, but it's something I always want to bring out.
[9:34] So are any terms and conditions that contract change other than price?
[9:39] That's what I'm aware of.
[9:41] we do have to have the law director review this first as we do with everything. I'm sure we'll
[9:47] strike out the identification. If it still exists in there, as our usual conversation
[9:52] with it.
[9:58] All right. I think we've been real happy so far with our body cameras. So all in favor, please
[10:05] say aye.
[10:06] Aye.
[10:07] Opposed?
[10:07] All right. Thank you.
[10:11] As far as you may read the next resolution.
[10:14] The Resolution, Designating Public Depositories of Active Public Funds for 5-year period, commencing
[10:21] April 6, 2026.
[10:24] Motion to adopt.
[10:25] So move.
[10:26] Second.
[10:27] Then by Councillor Franklin, check my Councillor's navel, and I'll turn it over to
[10:31] by an extractor right now.
[10:32] Good evening, Mayor and Councillors.
[10:34] In my staff report, I stated that the five-year agreement for the Banking Depository Services
[10:38] with the current bank will expire on April 5, but we actually did a one-year extension
[10:42] last year.
[10:42] So it's actually a six year contract.
[10:44] The request for qualifications for bank deposit
[10:47] services for the next five years was issued in January
[10:50] and was due by 1 p.m. on February 17.
[10:54] Five banks responded to the depository RFQ.
[10:57] Proposals received received from first financial bank,
[11:01] farmers in merchant state bank, LCNB, national bank,
[11:04] fifth, third bank, and Huntington bank.
[11:07] The basis for the decision as stated in the evaluation
[11:10] and criteria of the RFQ, the fees for services and interest rates will not be this sole
[11:15] determining factor in selecting the bank.
[11:17] The City of Oxford understands that it is important to use a structured process that barely
[11:21] compares different agencies based on a number of factors.
[11:26] The criteria for evaluating these proposals were based upon a combination of factors,
[11:32] bank qualifications, experience with public sector, proximity to the City of Oxford,
[11:37] List of general and specialized services, demonstrated experience with specialized services, and public
[11:44] assessment sector reference, which I guess is the same with experience with public sector.
[11:50] Based on our quality of review of the proposals we received, we are recommending that first financial
[11:56] bank remain as the primary depository for the City of Oxford funds, and Lebanon citizens' national bank as the backup depository for the City of Oxford funds.
[12:06] Is there any of them from the public who would like to address this resolution before Council?
[12:11] All right. Seeing none. Council questions and discussion.
[12:18] All right. I think we're all pretty happy with first my answer.
[12:22] So I do have a question. Okay.
[12:25] So in section one of the ordinance in the second paragraph, it says that the repository account will be retained with
[12:31] I'll see NB National Bank for the convenience by proximity for the deposit.
[12:36] Oh, I see.
[12:37] Where in there does it say that first financial will be disignated?
[12:44] It's a, oh, I don't think it does.
[12:57] It says the secondary depository.
[13:04] Okay, I see that.
[13:05] Yeah.
[13:06] That was wrong.
[13:08] Thank you.
[13:09] All good?
[13:13] All right.
[13:14] All those in favor?
[13:15] Please say aye.
[13:16] Aye.
[13:17] Opposed?
[13:18] Great.
[13:19] That resolution is adopted.
[13:21] And as far as you may, we have the next one.
[13:23] A resolution authorizing the city manager to enter into a contract with Atlantic Emergency
[13:29] Solutions for the purchase of a 2026 ran port and ambulance at specified options at state
[13:36] contract pricing at a cost not to exceed 385,466 dollars and 17 cents.
[13:43] Motion to adopt?
[13:44] Sometimes.
[13:45] Yeah, yeah.
[13:46] Live accounts from Frankenstein.
[13:47] Sit in black accounts, Eric.
[13:48] It's Napley.
[13:49] I'll turn it over to chief diverge.
[13:51] Good evening.
[13:52] Good evening.
[13:52] Evening.
[13:53] It's a ton of my onions again.
[13:56] As you all know we run those things a lot, and they get a lot of use.
[14:01] And it's time to continue with another purchase to keep our fleet in good shape and keep
[14:08] up with the additional use they've seem to be getting.
[14:14] We spent the last year looking at various manufacturers and basically came back to Horton,
[14:20] we bought the last three from better price than the others we looked at and also we'll
[14:29] basically make it another one that's identical to the last one.
[14:32] So it makes it easier for the guys when they're looking for things in an emergency situation.
[14:36] We can keep things in the same places.
[14:40] Purchases off the Ohio State Terms Schedule, total prices 354-617, and we were able to work
[14:49] a deal.
[14:50] I'm sure most of you are aware there's issues in the fire and the MS industry right now with
[14:54] delivery times, Atlantic emergency solutions was...
[15:00] It's enough to offer up a spot that they had in line in the manufacturing line for a demo unit.
[15:07] Our unit will be placed in that spot, and it will be constructed in November of this year.
[15:13] Wow, it pays to be a good customer.
[15:17] And I think that's all I've done, wish you have questions.
[15:20] All right, let me see if there's anyone from the public who would like to address this resolution before council.
[15:26] All right, seeing none. Council discussion questions.
[15:31] What's the typical life span of a good ambulance?
[15:36] Well, the first one that I purchased when I came here is a 2010, and we're going to keep it and keep using it.
[15:43] That way we'll have a backup.
[15:45] So if one's out, we'll still have three. We'll be able to cover multiple events at the same time and still have two on the road.
[15:52] And the 2010 still in decent shape. It's holding up well.
[15:56] Thank you.
[15:58] Yeah, I think this is my third ambulance purchase as my 10 years ago slumber, it would be.
[16:08] All right, there's no more questions.
[16:11] All in favor, please say aye.
[16:13] Aye.
[16:13] Opposed?
[16:14] All right, looks like we're getting an ambulance.
[16:17] Okay, we'll move on to ordinances.
[16:19] Ms. Barbie may read the first first reading.
[16:22] And ordnance repealing Oxford codified ordnance section 50703 entitled fire civil citations and adopting new Oxford codified ordnance section 50703
[16:35] Fire civil citations.
[16:37] All right.
[16:38] Did you leverage?
[16:40] Hello again.
[16:42] In 2025, the Ohio Fire Marshall's office finished a long process of updating for a new fire code.
[16:52] Once that was done, they completed the process.
[16:57] It was made into law by the state.
[17:01] And when they did that, there were some things
[17:02] that were moved around in the code that changed
[17:04] some numbers that reflect in 507.03
[17:08] in the fire civil citation section of the Oxford Code.
[17:15] Mostly, it's housekeeping type stuff.
[17:17] A couple of changes in the titles and a couple of changes in section numbers, and also going to use this opportunity to add two things to it.
[17:30] Chapter 1519 of the Oxford Code of Fight ordinances entitled Fireworks.
[17:35] That section, it matches with what Council had decided before was to keep the previous
[17:44] firework ordinances that were in place before the state changed to allow fireworks on certain holidays.
[17:52] So that will add that into there.
[17:54] And also the section that has to do with temporary membrane structures and tents.
[18:00] So it will allow us to cite people who erect a tent without a permit.
[18:07] Like I said other than that, the rest of it's just housekeeping items.
[18:11] John, you might mention the size of the tent.
[18:13] It's not for a very small tent.
[18:15] Correct, it's not for a very small tent.
[18:17] It's just for ones that meet the qualifications under the fire code,
[18:22] with the building code.
[18:25] I think it's 20 by 20 in larger.
[18:28] It's like a big event tent.
[18:30] Yes. Yes. That was my main question.
[18:34] So, yeah, the ones that the rental companies put up,
[18:37] not the pop-ups from Walmart, where the kids sleep in the backyard.
[18:42] Correct. Those don't apply to this either.
[18:46] All right. Let me see if there's anyone from the public
[18:49] who would like to address this ordinance before council.
[18:54] Seeing that?
[18:56] Further questions or discussion?
[18:58] I've just concerned about the tense.
[19:00] So I think he's answered that question.
[19:04] All right, this is the first reading,
[19:05] so we will see this again.
[19:07] We will be sighted in the five-year-olds.
[19:14] All right, we will move on to second reading.
[19:16] So I'm as far but you may read the first second reading.
[19:19] An ordinance dedicating certain city-owned real property
[19:23] of letting U.S. route 27 as public right of way.
[19:28] Motion to adopt.
[19:29] It's not a second.
[19:31] We'll be back after a second.
[19:33] Second, my Council is navely.
[19:34] We've got Mr. Otto tonight.
[19:36] Thank you, Mayor.
[19:38] Councilors, don't have any changes from the first
[19:40] reading.
[19:41] So just hear the answer any questions you might have.
[19:45] Is there anyone from the public who would like to address this ordinance before Council?
[19:50] Okay.
[19:51] Seeing none, I will remind everybody that this just has to do with some parcels of property that we own is just navely to.
[19:58] I just wanted to thank you Strato for all the work that you and your staff did on this because it's really tedious.
[20:07] I'm sure to go through and find all those little pieces and I'm very happy that you did.
[20:13] Thank you. Yeah, thank you.
[20:14] So could you just clarify for me because I don't understand the lessons I'm looking at the staff report and it says by
[20:19] This dedicating these stranded parcels is the right of way, maintenance responsibilities will be clarified for both the city and a buddy property owners.
[20:26] What will those mean it's the first responsibilities be after this ordinance?
[20:30] Maybe I'll jump in here.
[20:31] We had a lot of property that we acquired when we did US-27 North and US-27 South.
[20:37] You'll see that on the list of parcels.
[20:39] And so they became public parcels, but not right away, so we're taking these public parcels
[20:47] and dedicating them as public right away so that that's what this is all about.
[20:54] So who will be responsible for maintaining the private property owner?
[21:01] It's just kind of a follow-up to that.
[21:03] ask that because this will affect some snow removal areas, the property owners will not have
[21:11] definitely be responsible for snow removal, that we notify these property owners that
[21:16] they're getting these pieces of property deeded as right away.
[21:20] So we will do that, and of course this ordinance is an effective for if you pass it tonight,
[21:25] it's not effective for 30 days, so we don't expect to have to do anything with these parcels
[21:32] of this year,
[21:35] but who knows?
[21:36] No, there not be snow.
[21:39] Yeah, we say a lot of frayers and stuff like stuff, too.
[21:44] All right, there's been more questions.
[21:47] What called the role?
[21:48] Mr. Bracken?
[21:49] Yes.
[21:50] Mr. Franklin?
[21:51] Yes.
[21:51] Mr. Nellis?
[21:52] Yes.
[21:53] Mr. Sneagley?
[21:54] Yes.
[21:55] Mr. Vince?
[21:55] Yes.
[21:56] Marse men.
[21:57] Yes.
[21:58] That ordinance is adopted.
[22:01] We'll move on to our second-second reading,
[22:03] whenever you're ready.
[22:05] And ordinance to regulate the rates and charges to be charged and collected, and the services
[22:10] to be rendered like landlord energy of Oxford Incorporated, it's successors and designs
[22:15] for gas and gas service furnished to all its customers within the corporate limits of the
[22:21] city of Oxford during the period ending April 30, 2029, and repealing the AM super seeding the
[22:29] Thanks for watching, and I'll see you in the next video, and I'll see you in the next video.
[22:30] Number 3689, which together previously regulated such rates, charges and services? Motion to adopt?
[22:38] Some moved. Second. Second. Second by Councillor Franklin, second by Councillor Nellis.
[22:44] Mr. Elliot. Yeah, so I'll just summarize what I had read to you in the last reading.
[22:50] So, we set the rates, the City of Oxford sets the rates for Glenwood Energy's Oxford customers.
[22:56] And, if an agreement is not reached, Glenwood Energy may apply to the PUCO.
[23:02] And, as I said before, the main components of Glenwood Energy's rate structures are a gas cost recovery.
[23:08] GCR rate, the fixed meter charge, and the general service rate, GCR, the gas cost recovery rate,
[23:16] is based on the price which Glenwood must pay to purchase gas and it varies depending
[23:21] on the market and is passed directly on to the consumer.
[23:25] It is not part of the rate-making process nor is Glenwood entitled to earn a profit on it.
[23:30] The GCR rate, the gas cost per recovery rate, varies and was 9.0217 per MCF for the month
[23:41] of January, 2026, so it comprises about 50 to 70 percent of a customer's monthly bill.
[23:49] This gas cost recovery, a plan would is entitled to collect on several other riders, fees
[23:55] and charges, which remain the same with the proposed ordinance discussed below, with the
[24:01] exception of 1 fee, and that fee is the gas pressure test fee, which is a section 9.5, and
[24:09] that is increased from $80 to $90.
[24:12] So the city has reached a tentative agreement
[24:15] with Glenwood Energy on the proposed rate adjustments.
[24:18] The proposed ordinance would increase
[24:20] the monthly residential meter charge for all three years,
[24:24] from $14 to $22.
[24:26] That's the residential rate.
[24:28] And the monthly commercial rate would increase
[24:31] from $20 to $28 per meter for all three years.
[24:35] The GSR would remain at the current rate of $3.46.
[24:39] sense per MCF both residential and commercial and industrial customers. I pointed out that Duke
[24:45] Energy's current residential monthly meter charge is 43 dollars in 29 cents. So this is
[24:51] well below that and so I'm recommending a adoption of this ordinance this evening and these rates
[24:58] would be effective than May 1st. Is there anyone from the public that would like to address this
[25:05] before Council.
[25:08] All right, see none.
[25:09] Council questions?
[25:10] Savory.
[25:12] Have we done an analysis of other communities and other
[25:15] gases to find out to one extent these rates will be
[25:21] in line or above or below what other communities?
[25:24] Well, as I pointed out, we did compare ourselves to do.
[25:28] And the only other private public excuse me, gas company would be the city of
[25:35] all of South West Ohio, they serve as West Chester Liberty, you know, so on and so forth.
[25:44] But so our meter charge is much less than theirs and our gas general service rate is also
[25:52] less than theirs and I didn't put that in my report but we did look at that and as Jim
[25:59] bench pointed out the last meeting, they had proposed a lowering of the General Service
[26:04] Rate.
[26:06] But coupled with that, it wasn't even higher rate for the meter for the second and third
[26:11] yard.
[26:11] Second and third years, and I didn't feel that that was good for the city.
[26:19] Basically, you have a fixed meter charge, and you have a variable charge based on your
[26:29] Let's say 6,000.
[26:37] So if somebody, let's say has gas heat.
[26:44] And so they use the gas for about three months, maybe four.
[26:52] Every year, are they still then getting all these basic charges
[26:56] throughout the rest of the year, the other eight months?
[26:59] Well, the two charges were focused on here,
[27:01] or the monthly meter charge, and the gas.
[27:04] That's what I'm talking about.
[27:06] And so I'm not talking about the variable part.
[27:08] I'm talking about the fixed rates.
[27:10] Well, the fixed meter charge we've made it
[27:13] the same for all three years.
[27:16] But it is charged every month.
[27:19] It's charged every month.
[27:20] Whether people use the gas or not.
[27:23] If I'll give you a couple of examples now,
[27:26] this all depends on how high you set your thermostat,
[27:29] how big your house is, whether it's well
[27:31] later or not. So if the customer uses any year 60 MCF per year and MCF is 1,000 cubic feet,
[27:42] there would be a savings of $46.80 over what Glenwood energy had proposed and that was a much higher
[27:50] meter charge in the second and third years and a lower in the general service rate for someone using
[27:58] 80 MCF in a year, the savings is only $14.40 and so you can see that if you're a bigger consumer,
[28:08] you're not going to see the savings that someone that uses 60 MCF per year.
[28:15] And I did point out in my report to Council that in the city of Oxford, excuse me,
[28:23] with some pages here. If we look at the American Community Survey for 2019 to 2023, there are
[28:32] 5,800 75 occupied housing units and of these 3,122 or 53.1% use a natural gas for home heating fuel
[28:43] and 45% then use electricity for home heating. We have a mix in our community and so we felt
[28:52] The test was the best resolution of their request for an update.
[29:02] So I understand it's the answer that it is the best thing we could have gotten.
[29:12] I just think it's fundamentally unfair to charge people a meter rate for eight months
[29:19] out of the year when they're not using any gas at all.
[29:22] And I just think that's a problem, especially for people on fixed income and, you know, who may not use a whole lot of gas and they try very hard to keep their house as cool as they can tolerate to keep the cost down and then they're getting this charge.
[29:44] I have even Billy, I don't use a whole lot of gas, but it runs to like $150 a month.
[29:53] Well that's a lot of money for somebody not using the product really.
[30:00] And just through my council, we did look at Duke in their leader charge, just $23.29, residential meter charge, this proposal is $22.
[30:11] So we're $21.29, cheaper each month than Duke energy.
[30:19] Has it always historically been done this way? So this is not like a new charge, right? People have been paying this monthly charter charge.
[30:25] And they're used to paying it, and it's not a week ahead on water and sewer ourselves to a fixed charge.
[30:35] The only difference is we use the water and the sewer every month.
[30:38] We use electricity every month. We don't use necessarily gas.
[30:43] Right.
[30:44] That's not right.
[30:45] I suppose some people could have their gas go spread out throughout the year.
[30:49] Yeah, they had the level of building.
[30:51] They had the level of building.
[30:53] I don't know that next city.
[30:54] So if my level building was $153, then imagine what it would be if it was just during the winter months.
[31:06] And like I said, if we don't reach an agreement, they have the opportunity to go to PUCO and file for an increase.
[31:15] We've always reached an agreement with them.
[31:19] It wasn't that long ago a different company owned the gas company and transfer of ownership
[31:27] happened in.
[31:36] I think with this it's a little better to pay a little bit more for your meter a month
[31:43] than it was going to be for them to increase the basic gas rate in the coming years.
[31:49] I have the gas seat and a gas hot water heater so I use it every month so I don't feel
[31:53] But I'd be curious to know how many households just have gas heat and no other gas appliances.
[32:01] Well, a lot of folks with gas heat also probably have gas water.
[32:05] Yeah, that's right.
[32:06] Any
[32:12] other questions?
[32:15] All right.
[32:16] The Sparby may call the roll.
[32:18] Mr. Franklin.
[32:19] Yes.
[32:20] Mr. Nellis.
[32:21] Yes.
[32:22] Mr. Snavely.
[32:23] Reluctant. Yes.
[32:25] Mr. Vint.
[32:26] Yes.
[32:26] Mr. Bracken. Yes.
[32:28] Marist men.
[32:29] Yes.
[32:29] That ordinance is adopted, we will move on to our third and second reading whenever you're ready.
[32:37] And ordinance amending ordinance number 3844, supplemental budget ordinance number one,
[32:42] to make supplemental appropriations for fiscal year 2026.
[32:48] Motion to adopt.
[32:50] So moved.
[32:52] Second.
[32:53] Can I catch the Franklin Second by Councilor Nellis?
[32:56] I'm going back to finance director right now.
[32:58] Hello again, I bring to before you tonight one change to the supplemental preparation ordinance and that is to add $39,000 to the preparation and revenue for the mayor's court.
[33:16] with better cost analysis of half of your salaries and start up costs.
[33:20] Jessica was researching some salaries comparable for this position and looked into some of the software.
[33:26] We will be going on a trip to the city of Monroe tomorrow so we can view all of their software and just processes for their mayor's court so we can get a better handle on all of this.
[33:40] in order to start moving forward, we need to have an appropriation to do so.
[33:49] All right.
[33:49] Let me see if there's anyone from the public that would like to address this ordinance
[33:52] before Council.
[33:54] All right.
[33:55] Seeing none.
[33:56] Council.
[33:56] Questions?
[33:57] I do.
[33:59] I have a couple of questions.
[34:03] The first question is, really, probably, for city manager Elliott, why is it important for us
[34:11] to make this change to the budget now when we're not going to be having a court until much
[34:21] later. And we don't really know all you haven't even done your comparative study. It could
[34:29] be higher or lower than we don't know. That's my first question. Why now?
[34:36] Well, it's not
[34:37] that big of a champ let me just
[34:39] know I just don't want any of it in there necessarily until we know what we're getting
[34:45] well one of the first positions that we need to hire is a mayor's court clerk
[34:50] and until I have an appropriation I can't do that
[34:54] you know there were some fixed costs that maybe in the original estimate
[34:58] which was a hundred thousand I think in that we're up to us
[35:01] on 39, that maybe I underestimated, but let me assure you that if this mayor's court turns out
[35:09] to be a drain for the general fund, those of you that have worked with me in every
[35:13] years will know that I'll be the first to kind of recommend to you that we undo it and then
[35:20] send everybody over to Hamilton. But right now I feel that the revenue that we bring in is going
[35:26] meet our expenses, you know, unlike a mayor's court, every mayor's court budget that I looked at,
[35:33] and that was at least half a dozen, is subsidized by the general fund in those cities.
[35:39] And even the area one court in area two and three is subsidized by the county.
[35:44] You know, it has some revenue that comes in, but it only covers about 50% of their cost.
[35:49] Mayor's courts don't have the same expenses and they typically meet the expenses they have with the fines and
[35:59] forfeitures they have.
[36:00] So, but if it proves different, I'll be the first to come in and say, let's undo this because we don't need a drain on the general fund.
[36:09] So, a lot of these charges that finds and so forth that would come to the mayor's court,
[36:18] are they given by Miami University police or are they all given by City of Oxford?
[36:25] Right now, I believe that Miami police side under the state law.
[36:29] I understand that, and that's going to be the second part of my question.
[36:32] So they will have to go to Hamilton unless they decide to tell site under the Oxford kind of mind.
[36:38] So have you talked with Miami University yet?
[36:42] I think Chief Jones has mentioned it to them,
[36:45] but that'll be their decision.
[36:47] And it just seems to me, I'm not opposed to a mayor's court.
[36:54] I've already spoken in favor of the concept.
[36:58] But if Miami does not cooperate, then this makes no sense at all.
[37:04] It's an absolute waste of our money.
[37:05] in my opinion, if, in fact, you're correct that the majority of the ticket writing would be made by my university.
[37:15] Well, that's not the case.
[37:15] Well, that's what was my question, and you just answered it.
[37:19] No, I believe that you'll find that we side a lot more students.
[37:25] and Miami do it for underage, drinking, why is that because most of it occurred.
[37:31] So don't you think though we should find out whether Miami University is willing to cooperate with us before we expend $139,000 in our budget?
[37:44] this is just an estimate. I understand that it depends on when we get it up and running, you know, I would have
[37:52] stay on outside it to suggest that I had underestimated and I would have gone with it. I was fearful that it would raise the
[38:00] And it has the bottom line as we really don't know until we advertise for a magistrate and decide what we have to pay, we'll have a contract with that person.
[38:13] But as far as Miami is concerned,
[38:18] if we don't have their case load, it'll be that many less cases that will have that fewer hours that the magistrate will need to be paid in the prosecutor.
[38:27] So, you know, this is all, we're looking at Monroe because I believe their case load will be similar to ours, and, you know, but I get it, this is brand new.
[38:40] We've never had a mayor school, well, and we did have a mayor school years ago.
[38:46] I can't tell you what it's just to exist, probably when the Harry one court came in, but, you know, this is brand new.
[38:53] We're using the best examples that we have and like I said, it will not be a burden on the general fund or I'll be the first to come in and tell you that we need to undo this and, you know, the effect, the unintended consequence will be the effect on the lawyers that come here that are, you know, in town and also the businesses uptown that get that self coffee sandwiches when the area one court meets.
[39:23] But, you know, I'm focused on our general fund as you know, and if it's a drain on the general fund, I will come in and tell you that this is not working out.
[39:34] So, if that happens, what happens to the three people that we employ?
[39:41] Well, I have a contract with two of them, and the third one will be a full time employable across that bridge.
[39:48] So, it's like a pretty big bridge?
[39:50] Well, I believe it's going to work out.
[39:54] So just to provide a little bit of an alternative perspective, I guess.
[39:58] In general, my concern, and I think most of the public and the commentators concerns about
[40:04] me as courts that cities use them as cash printing machines, they overutilize them to generate
[40:09] revenue.
[40:10] And I think it takes a lot of careful thinking to not turn them into that.
[40:16] And so I'm hoping that Oxford is not going to do that.
[40:19] Like, I'm hoping that we're not going to use it as a cast generating machine.
[40:22] I hope that we'll use it just to break even, and I'm pretty caught.
[40:26] I mean, yeah, I agree.
[40:27] So I think that, you know, I'm not concerned about us abusing the system, you know,
[40:34] most of the places where they abuse it, let's say, happen to be small villages or they set up
[40:41] speed traps.
[40:43] I was a victim of one, some 30 years ago, at least I felt that way.
[40:47] I got a speeding ticket and went into the Layers Court and paid my back then, it was $150,
[40:53] which I thought was a lot very high, but you know, we don't write a lot of speeding tickets.
[41:00] We write a lot of tickets for a disorderly conduct, underage, drinking things of that nature.
[41:08] So I don't believe, you know, you'll have the final say, I mean, if you get criticism that we're abusing it,
[41:14] We're about to model our rates after we've been rose and bought Gary one board now, charges
[41:21] and so I don't think you'll find that's the case.
[41:27] Good night.
[41:28] I'm sorry, Councilor Perk.
[41:31] Well, okay.
[41:33] I know Councillor French regrets that she's not able to be here tonight.
[41:37] She's expressed some concerns as well and I share many of them.
[41:41] I alluded to wanting to have maybe some kind of report.
[41:46] I know the report we're basing this on is nine years ago and perhaps the outcome itself
[41:50] would still say if you're going to have some kind of court it would have to be a mayor's court.
[41:57] But things are very different now than they were then in terms of, you know, what is the cost benefit analysis,
[42:04] having officers going to Hamilton for sustain here. I feel like when I was on PCRC we spent
[42:12] a lot of time in a working group talking and meeting with different people before any appropriations
[42:19] were made for social service liaison. There was just a lot, I think we knew a lot more. We understood
[42:25] a lot more. This feels like a much bigger step to do with out as much information. And
[42:36] when when Councillor French mentioned to report, it's not necessarily like spending
[42:40] whatever it would be $30,000 to hire an outside agency, but perhaps there's some ways that
[42:45] we could find out estimated costs for labor or overtime going to Hamilton versus staying here.
[42:54] We could do nothing, right?
[42:57] Like that is an option, right?
[42:59] I'm not having a mayor's court at all.
[43:02] And we won't really know what it's like to do nothing with the students around unless we
[43:09] are willing to do that through an academic year, at least half of the academic year.
[43:14] We've been saying that we can wait until the summer through the summer, but that's still
[43:19] not a good representation of what things will be like.
[43:22] Another possible concern is people can appeal the charge that's done here, right, to Hamilton.
[43:31] And if they're dismissed there, what have you, we would have spent money on a magistrate
[43:37] to prosecute or let me those rights that the right language that I'm using there, that they might get overturned and not end up having to pay the city the fees.
[43:48] I mean, I just feel like there are a lot of things we don't, we don't quite know yet, and I feel like it's feeling a little bit rushed, actually.
[43:58] I've expressed some concern before, but I'm wondering, I'd like to hear from other council members, and I'm willing to make a motion as well.
[44:06] But let's talk about this.
[44:08] So a couple of things.
[44:09] One, by way of background, I was a public defender for 11 years.
[44:12] It was Deputy Director of Montgomery County.
[44:14] I've been pureed in mayor's court representing criminal defendants.
[44:20] There is no question that there is our segments in Ohio,
[44:25] areas in Ohio, where mayor's court's have been abused.
[44:28] When Chief Justice Moore was with the Ohio Supreme Court,
[44:33] he led an initiative because he was not a fan of mayor's courts.
[44:37] But the mayor's course that I've experienced is a criminal defense attorney in cities like Springbro, or Marine, where I appeared in Marine as a public defender.
[44:50] I found them to be ethical.
[44:53] I found them to be in some ways cost effective.
[44:57] And there's a system that's set in place.
[45:00] Things that there would be a public defender that would be under contract. So there would be court appointed council for those in the chest.
[45:06] There's also a number of soft expenses that you've alluded to that I think we're going to be fighting out because the court can't be established until the Hamilton's already up and running. So that there's going to be some data coming back as this process starts.
[45:22] But there's other things too, so for example, my hypothesizing that there's going to be a number of students that can't get to court.
[45:33] And I suspect there's going to be warrants that are issued for them, that it's going to lead to some attention by either the Miami Police Department or by the City Police Department.
[45:44] warrants by definition mean you take people into custody custody means you got a book
[45:49] a man. There are a lot of variables there that haven't all been determined. I've
[45:56] certainly had a lot of discussions with Doug about this in the implementation.
[46:02] I think
[46:04] that going forward to get the data in the appropriation doesn't necessarily mean the money
[46:10] yet spent either, but I will just say this is the law director, I think that the exploration
[46:17] of the mayor's court is a good idea for the benefit of this community, and then as someone
[46:24] who's appeared in them before, I think that there are benefits that occur to the community
[46:29] in the citizens of the population that would be served as well.
[46:37] It's a good question.
[46:38] So maybe it's because I'm an attorney, but I've had some experience in this area, but I'm
[46:43] comfortable with what we're doing here because as I said, the last time we discussed this,
[46:49] council is going to retain oversight over this function. Right? If things go sideways,
[46:55] it's council's job to call it out. I'm going to be watching a mayor's court like a hot to make
[47:00] sure that it's not being abused and properly. The other thing that made it a city attorney can
[47:08] on is it's probably pretty doubtful that someone who comes to Mayor's court is going to actually
[47:13] appeal their case to, you know, municipal court. I mean, that's going to cost them a fortune, right?
[47:20] Yeah. Well, it's almost certain that what you typically see is the, I've seen both sides,
[47:28] the Mayor's court that have appeared in Montgomery County's public defender,
[47:31] you didn't want to go to the municipal court where they were affiliated. You'd rather be there
[47:37] because the mayor was far more lenient
[47:40] than the two judges at the time.
[47:43] I suspect that there may be some truth in that too
[47:46] as it relates to Hamilton versus the mayor's court here.
[47:50] I mean, just because I'm comfortable with it,
[47:52] I understand that the rest of you are not as comfortable
[47:55] with the legal system and might have discomfort with it,
[47:58] but I'm just saying personally that I'm going to do what I can
[48:03] to make sure that this is done correctly.
[48:05] And I'm not uncomfortable with the idea of a mayor's court.
[48:13] I'm uncomfortable with a pig in a poke, which we've got $139,000.
[48:19] And we don't know how a dime of that is actually Alex is not true.
[48:24] Well, where is our budget?
[48:25] We need to see the budget on what if you're going to interrupt me to say that.
[48:31] And you had better produce for us how that $139,000, it's not in our packet, it is not in our information that we have.
[48:41] We just have a number. We don't know where that number came from. We don't know what it.
[48:47] And you may very well have a very clear idea of where that money is attributable, but we don't know that.
[48:53] So I think it's very difficult as city counselors for us to vote on putting something in the
[49:01] budget when we don't know where that number comes from.
[49:04] You could have put in $530,000 with the same amount of information that we've had.
[49:13] Well, I did send out a line item budget to counsel.
[49:17] It's not in the packet, but there was a line item budget that we sent out.
[49:20] I don't have that.
[49:24] Look, I know this is a brand new thing and there seems to be some doubts about our figures
[49:30] We're going to have at least three months going to Hamilton and seeing how that works out
[49:38] So why are we doing this today? I'm asking myself that
[49:44] Because I think you could come back at our next meeting with a budget and more information about Monroe and we'd all go great
[49:51] I don't know what I have to pay the magistrate until we find someone, it'll be an hourly
[49:57] great and I don't know what I'll have to pay the prosecutor, it'll be an hourly rate
[50:02] and a lot of that will depend on the case, the case load, and anyway, I'm sure it knows.
[50:14] I think this goes back to the meeting, I think it was maybe two previous to this one.
[50:20] When the issue was first brought up of the mayor's court and I was asking for an updated report.
[50:31] Now, it's been repeated again.
[50:34] So I think that there is a lack of information that we need to fill in.
[50:43] And as was just described, I feel if we got a little more of that nuts and bolts of what's going to be
[50:49] involved where the money is actually being identified to be spent.
[50:56] That might make it a little easier for another vote on this.
[51:00] Maybe the next meeting with some more of this information.
[51:05] I mean, that's fine with me.
[51:07] Just to back up the city manager, I don't remember you sending it to the budget.
[51:12] You had a $70,000 for the prosecutor or $70,000 for the magistrate.
[51:18] Maybe I didn't know I apologize about it.
[51:20] I mean you did send it, but it's an option to,
[51:24] like, I mean, do you need the seed money, like right away?
[51:31] Okay, I need something in place before I can hire a court.
[51:35] So I just didn't know if the...
[51:37] I thought we could purchase the software,
[51:39] which I do have firm prices on that.
[51:44] I mean, I don't know if it would make sense to ask for less now
[51:46] and then come back later in the year and ask for it more.
[51:49] I don't know.
[51:49] Is that where we're really talking about?
[51:50] They won't be for not pushing back on staff when they said you ought to ask for more
[51:55] because they were asking the same questions, you really know that I don't get this in a brand new
[52:01] venture,
[52:04] but I don't think we're far off the market, but you know, council, you can make
[52:09] your own decision now, respect it.
[52:13] Right.
[52:14] Yeah, I feel like there's three different things going on here.
[52:18] Like Jim, I agree. I'm not worried about us using it because I'm also going to be watching this like a log and we're going to put in rules. I'm sure that make sure you can't get abused.
[52:26] Either increase your revenue or increasing our budget with the rent.
[52:31] I'm not worried about that. I'm actually not worried about the budget because I trust us. If that money is not used, it'll come back. I have no worries there. I do worry in general, this happened really fast, which I sent when this vote first came up, that it was like, here's our choices, and one, we didn't explore the do nothing option, which doesn't mean much in itself, but it creates optionality for what else we can do with our building, with our resources, with everything else.
[52:57] So, I grew with Amber and I think Alex, because I think you're representing maybe some of her thoughts, that I would love to slow down and consider that optionality, even though I too don't have an issue with going forward with Mayor's court, as long as it's the best choice. I just don't know if that's just yet.
[53:14] So that's where I go.
[53:17] I also, I appreciate what everyone's saying about, you know, watching the mayor's court
[53:23] like a hawk. And again, not necessarily entirely opposed to it, Ohio and Louisiana,
[53:28] or the only states that have this practice. But I'm also thinking about, like, what systems
[53:35] are in place when we're not around, right? Like, you know, people run for council, different
[53:40] people like in the future is this something that could be abused by other people.
[53:47] I mean we talk about policies that are in place, but that's just something to keep in mind
[53:51] as well.
[53:52] But I think we've had a robust discussion.
[53:55] I would like to make a motion, see if I can get a second, to remove the line item for issue
[54:02] one from the appropriations budget so removing the $139,000 and passing it without that, that's my
[54:16] motion. Is that an acceptable motion? To a motion to remove that item from the appropriations
[54:26] budget. And yeah, that is the motion. That's the motion.
[54:33] All right, we have a motion, and we have a second.
[54:38] Now we have a second.
[54:39] Yeah, now we have a second.
[54:41] All right.
[54:43] So I think that's not a bad motion simply because I just think we need,
[54:50] I'm not opposed to the mayor's court idea.
[54:52] I just, I feel very uncomfortable.
[54:57] Everything else on our, the budget here,
[54:59] we kind of know what, where the money's going,
[55:02] and what it's for.
[55:04] And it's just a real big thing
[55:08] that we don't know exactly how it's put together.
[55:13] Apparently something was said that I missed,
[55:16] but I just would like some time for us
[55:21] to think about it and to find out what the numbers are, and I think when you go to Monroe you'll probably learn a lot more about how they pay their prosecutor and their magistrate and so forth, and that will be informative and the number that you come up with may be higher than this, it may be lower than this, but it will at least be informed, and so that's why I second it the motion.
[55:50] So I'm not necessarily opposed to you doing this for a month or however long we need to
[55:54] consider it, but I don't necessarily agree with the motion because all it does is strike
[56:03] the $139,000 number, but doesn't say anything about what has to happen next.
[56:08] I don't want to just strike that and leave that with no direction.
[56:11] And I mean, maybe part of the motion is with the city manager providing a report on our
[56:20] before blank day for council's consideration, something like that.
[56:23] I don't know what information everyone is looking for, but I want to make it sure that the
[56:27] city knows what information we particularly want, so it can responsibly address it in a timely
[56:33] manner.
[56:34] So we don't come here again in three weeks and I have the same discussion, asking for different
[56:38] numbers.
[56:41] So I agree with that. I think there's almost two sides to it. One is to figure out the near-term budget issues that can happen pretty quick.
[56:49] The other is, do we want to put this off for part of a school year semester to see what happens when we do a do nothing option for several months?
[56:58] Which also slows down the whole process so we get time to figure out the budget and everything else?
[57:03] I think I would be for that.
[57:07] I'm not sure that's a good idea, but the first, what I consider the mayor's court was
[57:14] been presented to us as all the reasons why it's a good idea, but there's also what
[57:19] the pitfalls are if we decide not to do that.
[57:24] And I think the pitfalls are, in fact, on some businesses in town, certainly, if I was in
[57:31] law office that primarily dealt with people who were coming to this court.
[57:38] I would be in a quandary to know, should we just pack up and move to Hamilton or should
[57:45] we stick around and see how it goes?
[57:49] So I don't know that that's the case.
[57:51] I just really want more definition as far as the motion.
[57:56] I'm not worried that Doug's going to forget about it.
[57:59] I think if a through this discussion he tells to come back at our next meeting with some detail and
[58:07] it will be fine and we'll have a motion to adjust and it will be based on information.
[58:17] That's sort of the split, though. Some of us are worried about the budget. Some of us aren't.
[58:22] Some are worried about that. Others are worried about the long-term situation.
[58:25] I just don't know how much I'm low to combat, but I will on this one and maybe it's not appropriate, but it seems to me there's a difference between an appropriation and an expenditure.
[58:40] The appropriation does not lead to the expenditure and what you're saying is you want more information and you could still do the appropriation and then say to staff,
[58:51] We do not we don't want you to do any expenditures until we see it because we want to approve it
[59:01] I'll okay with those pony. I mean, that's fine. So the other thing chasing in response to
[59:10] And response directly response to your question. I think another cost is going to be having our police officers have to run Hamilton all the time, right?
[59:18] Yeah, they do some of that. I mean, well, I mean, yeah, but if they're I mean, if we don't have a mayor's court here
[59:22] They're going to all those cases are in Hamilton and are police forces going to have to go
[59:25] to Hamilton.
[59:26] Yeah, when they have to go to court, they'll go to Hamilton.
[59:29] But that's sort of the probability of being able to get a sense of that, right?
[59:33] For a specific matter.
[59:34] I mean, it's going to happen because we know we have a docket here and it's going away.
[59:39] I don't think we know all the problems and revendipits that come through it because I think
[59:44] the whole thing went too fast, but that's me.
[59:47] And I express that the first time that's given.
[59:49] I'm wondering if I can ask Chief Jones, do you have anything to add to this conversation that you'd like to share?
[59:57] I don't mean to put you on the spot, but I just did.
[1:00:01] Yeah, thank you.
[1:00:03] My pleasure.
[1:00:05] No, I mean, yes, certainly will be sending officers to Hamilton. We'll be running paperwork to Hamilton.
[1:00:12] Well, so that'll be an expense, but there's also expenses with mayor's court that we haven't
[1:00:17] really sat down as a staff and talked about. That's kind of the purpose of going to Monroe tomorrow.
[1:00:23] I want to ask questions about what happens with someone fails to appear on your warrant in mayor's court.
[1:00:28] and they have to go to jail. Well, the jail accept them. There's some challenges. We drop back
[1:00:34] from Monroe on that and the cost of sending someone to jail. So, I mean, there's there's
[1:00:41] cost both ways and that's a staff. I'm more concerned with the operations. I'm not as concerned about
[1:00:48] the revenue, the funding, my concern is operations. And in fact, I mean, with listening to
[1:00:54] So talk about being a watchdog, you know, I'm thinking are you a watchdog on the police
[1:00:59] because you know, if we're writing more tickets this week, you know, versus next month.
[1:01:05] So there's all kinds of concerns with this that I, you know, I'm not going to give you an answer.
[1:01:11] I'm going to be like a lawyer and say it depends.
[1:01:15] But yeah, so there's, we're still way in through that.
[1:01:20] And we're still, we'll learn a lot tomorrow.
[1:01:22] I think by talking to Monroe.
[1:01:25] Thank you.
[1:01:29] I'm going to have a question.
[1:01:31] Is it possible to table us a part of it?
[1:01:36] I know we robber true, but I have no idea about that.
[1:01:40] Well, I was just going to have with the motion.
[1:01:42] We'll be fine, because we can put another one on that
[1:01:46] and that's meeting.
[1:01:47] It takes two readings.
[1:01:48] It's effective immediately.
[1:01:51] We, all right, this will postpone advertising
[1:01:53] for the court clerk. But that's fine. I'm not in any rush and I guess maybe I've come off that
[1:02:00] way but I forget that none of you are on council when we did that study. So I have to remind
[1:02:07] myself and I don't think the studies out in date of anything all the cost have gone up because you
[1:02:13] pay more for staff. My issue with the study was that we didn't consider the do nothing option
[1:02:17] and what optionality it provides us there which again might not be better but I don't think it was
[1:02:22] ever really considered well you know we've had that discussion the fact that the police
[1:02:29] are going to spend more time in Hamilton it's going to have an effect on the uptown
[1:02:33] businesses you know but other than that you know it's it's not that bad but deal but you
[1:02:42] know I guess I'm concerned about the businesses and the students are gone in month between
[1:02:47] that I met, spring and quarter, they're gone for basically three months in the summer.
[1:02:53] You know, our businesses struggle during that time period.
[1:02:56] Why take away the business that they get from this court?
[1:03:00] I think we need more misdemeanors in the level of crime to puff up on business.
[1:03:05] I'm sorry, there's one other thing I want to, the other question that nobody's raised yet
[1:03:11] directly is that the officers who were going to be going to Hamilton
[1:03:16] and are likely the officers who were patrol officers,
[1:03:20] because they're going to the ones who were sighting.
[1:03:22] So the question is, generically,
[1:03:24] does that have an impact on the public safety component
[1:03:27] because are there fewer officers on the street
[1:03:30] during whatever segment?
[1:03:31] I don't think that requires an answer,
[1:03:33] it's just a factoid that's relevant.
[1:03:37] And we're going to know more of that,
[1:03:38] because there'll be at least three months
[1:03:40] that will be gone over the Hamilton,
[1:03:42] but it'll be three months, probably one and a half
[1:03:45] when the students will be gone, so it's a pretty like case load that typically, so but we're
[1:03:51] going to have some experience there. So just for clarification, Saker, are there any specific
[1:03:55] expenses or costs that Council wants to see included in a, you know, but potential budget.
[1:04:03] Like, or do you want like a six month budget, a one year? I mean, how are we going to do this?
[1:04:07] Senate developer one year by one year? We had that and I apologize, but I didn't send it out to you. I thought
[1:04:12] I did, I sent out a whole bunch of things.
[1:04:14] It was sent out on March 10th, but you know,
[1:04:18] but, you know, every week we're learning more
[1:04:21] and we'll be able to get the more information,
[1:04:23] but this is brand new venture.
[1:04:25] I get it, you know, I mean,
[1:04:28] I'd love nothing better
[1:04:29] than have not had to work on this.
[1:04:31] Be quite frankly.
[1:04:33] Can I say something?
[1:04:34] You right?
[1:04:34] Just from an operational standpoint,
[1:04:36] because finance is going to kind of be involved.
[1:04:39] We'll know more tomorrow once we go with.
[1:04:41] But from a implementation standpoint, we would rather do it not when the students are here to be honest with you because it's going to be a learning curve for all of us and just like with everything else.
[1:04:53] That's just my two cents.
[1:04:55] As far as the Mayor Court, Mayor Court, if you really,
[1:05:01] that kind of stuff doesn't affect me, but figuring out reporting to the state and all of this stuff.
[1:05:08] I would rather do it when we're not slammed with students as well.
[1:05:12] So that's just the design.
[1:05:15] I think yes, we move on.
[1:05:16] We're going to go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead.
[1:05:18] All right.
[1:05:18] I suggest we vote on the amendment.
[1:05:20] Get movement.
[1:05:21] Yes, let's vote on the amendment.
[1:05:24] The spur, where you call.
[1:05:25] All in favor.
[1:05:26] It's a voice vote.
[1:05:27] Voice vote.
[1:05:28] All right.
[1:05:29] On the amendment.
[1:05:30] On the amendment.
[1:05:31] Yeah, voting on the amendment.
[1:05:32] All in favor.
[1:05:33] Please say aye.
[1:05:34] Aye.
[1:05:35] Opposed?
[1:05:36] Aye.
[1:05:39] All right.
[1:05:39] the amendment is adopted. Now we'll go back to the original ordinance as amended.
[1:05:47] And I believe we asked for public comment. We've had, is there any discussion on the rest of the ordinance?
[1:05:58] Ms. Barbara, you may call the roll on the ordinance as amended.
[1:06:01] Ms. Ornellis? Yes. Mr. Snavely? Yes. Mr. Venge. Yes. Mr. Bracken? Yes.
[1:06:11] Miss Franklin? Yes. Yes. Yes. Or this is adopted. We will now move on to announcement
[1:06:18] and communications. I'll start with Mr. Elliott.
[1:06:22] I'll just have a couple of things like was said earlier. We are going to visit and
[1:06:25] Rose Mayer's court. The court clerk is graciously agreed to meet with us. So it will be
[1:06:32] a consistent city manager. Please chief finance director myself. So we'll learn some more information
[1:06:39] And we'll be providing that with you.
[1:06:42] So the other thing I wanted to share with you is that the ambassador's point community
[1:06:48] church, excuse me, is planning a building on some land that's outside the city, but as
[1:06:54] contiguous to land that they own within the city.
[1:06:57] So we're exploring the annexation of these three parcels.
[1:07:01] So I think you'll have an annexation resolution to vote on, maybe within the next month.
[1:07:08] and I plan to serve as the statutory agent,
[1:07:10] so I'm working on that petition now.
[1:07:13] This is basically three parcels
[1:07:16] that are continuous to their parcels
[1:07:18] on College Corner Pike.
[1:07:20] It would be 6.753 acres,
[1:07:24] so I'll keep you posted on that.
[1:07:25] That's all I have this evening.
[1:07:26] Thank you.
[1:07:27] Strato.
[1:07:30] Do you feel
[1:07:34] it appears most of my student audience has left? No, it's a prepared form, but I was, I was going to mention that this, this Thursday will be the last day of area one court.
[1:07:50] Ironically, it's also the infamous Supreme Heritage. So you'll see a heavy police presence will be out focused on safety trying to defer as you have probably experienced.
[1:08:03] it's much less of an event than it used to be, I think, due to some of that
[1:08:09] police presence, so we hope that we'll continue. So for the students that are here
[1:08:14] or maybe watching, they'll also be leaving for spring break. Just some tips for them
[1:08:19] is please don't leave your cars on the street. We have a 72-hour ordinance for a reason.
[1:08:25] Water main break. We have to tell your car if it's in the way. I hope we don't have to deal with
[1:08:31] weather, but sometimes we do. So please don't leave your cars on the street. Also sign up for
[1:08:39] our vacant house checklist, an off-circle visit your house, make sure it's secure, and then
[1:08:44] we have contact info if there's any problem found. Then lastly just to drive safely and take traffic
[1:08:51] safety into buying as you head out into spring break. So just few of those tips I just wanted to share.
[1:08:58] Thank you.
[1:08:59] Thank you.
[1:09:00] Right now.
[1:09:02] Do you leverage?
[1:09:09] Mr. Smith.
[1:09:11] A couple of quick things.
[1:09:12] Good evening, Mayor.
[1:09:13] Counselors.
[1:09:14] I just wanted to announce that last week we kicked off our master planning process with the consultants.
[1:09:21] They were in town.
[1:09:22] I met with the city manager and some of us on staff.
[1:09:25] And we've kicked off the master planning.
[1:09:27] So we'll be more to come.
[1:09:28] There's some email correspondence you may or may not have seen yet.
[1:09:31] And the next big chapter in this year-long exercise is April 22nd, 23rd, the consultants will be back in town.
[1:09:40] We'll be holding steering, committee meetings, focus groups, and when I'm really excited about the big emphasis on community engagement,
[1:09:48] we'll be at town hall for the public to attend.
[1:09:51] We'll be serving, going out in the meantime.
[1:09:54] So they're doing a very thorough job, and we'll be more news to come as we get all that detail wrap together
[1:10:00] and make some announcements. But April 22nd, we'll be at Town Hall, Parks Master Planning,
[1:10:05] it's pretty exciting. Also, just a quick update on a partnership, we were really excited to get
[1:10:12] to get done with Miami Aquatic Center, the Miami Rec Center, so we'll be partnering with them
[1:10:18] and holding our in-service for life card certifications. That may seem like kind of out in the
[1:10:23] weeds, kind of a small detail, but that is very impactful for our staff as typically they would wait
[1:10:29] until it warmed up, and our pool has been to certify the 40 or so life guards now with this partnership with Miami, and an indoor pool, they can get certified ahead of the season, which may allow us to even open up the facility earlier for the community.
[1:10:44] So, that's exciting. And then lastly, we, there's second to last, excuse me, we will now be a Red Cross CPR First Aid Training Facility, which costs us nothing at the TRI Community Center, and several of our staff as well as some of Chief Jones's officers will be certified as CPR First Aid and Structors.
[1:11:05] Again, huge advantage there for us because then we'll be able to certify those instructors will be able to certify city staff throughout the year.
[1:11:13] So huge for recruitment and even retention for a lot of the parks and next staff as many of those seasonal positions we require to have first aid CPR.
[1:11:22] So excited to get those to training opportunities and partnerships underway. And then lastly, my shameless plug for seasonal hiring.
[1:11:30] we were still looking to fill positions, go to the City of Oxford website, if you know anyone
[1:11:35] looking for a summer job, please apply. Thank you, I'm sorry. It's very, it's great. It's
[1:11:44] warmer? Nothing, thank you.
[1:11:48] So, it's 100 years ago, the Aquinas Club of Oxford was found it.
[1:11:55] So this year they're celebrating their 100th anniversary and one of the things that they do is the annual Pancake Day,
[1:12:04] which almost everybody that I've ever talked to and Oxford has been to,
[1:12:09] but I want to alert people that it's April 25th.
[1:12:13] Also, I have some tickets that I will make available to Council and staff and there will be no charge.
[1:12:22] So if you want to donate something to Kuanus later, you're welcome too, but these are on me.
[1:12:30] For everybody else, find somebody who is a Kuanian and buy some tickets.
[1:12:36] They're really cheap for all you can eat. It's all inclusive.
[1:12:42] Just have fun. Good luck and stay safe on Thursday. Nothing more.
[1:12:50] Nothing for me.
[1:12:51] Nothing for me either.
[1:12:52] I have something.
[1:12:58] The month of March is recognized as Women's History Month, and I have
[1:13:06] to recognize and congratulate the historic season that the Miami women's basketball team had and their rock-in
[1:13:21] Mac Championship. Way to go, Red House. That was a great game, too. Real nail biker. That's it.
[1:13:33] All right, I've got three quick ones, so I learned this week that Rumpke is doing a new program that involves these orange trash bags that you can get at various places.
[1:13:46] I think Walmart, Crogors and Lowe's, and you can put what is known as hard to recycle items into them such as styrofoam peanuts, egg cartons, regular plastic grocery bags,
[1:14:00] And some styrofoam, like you would take out containers and things like that.
[1:14:07] So, so those are available.
[1:14:10] I also wanted to say to our student population, make good choices on Thursday.
[1:14:15] If not, the chief is ready for you.
[1:14:19] And I would also like to say to both the men's and women's basketball team, well-felt
[1:14:24] congratulations, and we are ready to support them in their individual quest for a national
[1:14:29] championship.
[1:14:29] Yeah, that would even be that I see Terry and whatever with that may I have a motion to adjourn
[1:14:38] Second
[1:14:40] Move by council again, second by council Franklin all those in favor, please say aye
[1:15:04] Right, and we shall eventually write next to the hotel.
[1:15:19] I'm just assuming I'm just didn't because I was a person, I'm just assuming I'm just didn't because I was a person.