[0:00] Call the roll, please.

[0:01] Mr. South.

[0:02] Present.

[0:03] Mm-hmm. Mrs. Capp.

[0:05] She's out of town, so she won't be here.

[0:07] Mrs. Jennings.

[0:09] Here.

[0:10] Mrs. Sams.

[0:11] Here.

[0:12] Dr. Webb.

[0:13] Here.

[0:14] Oh, please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance.

[0:17] I pledge allegiance, to the flag of the United States of America, and to the

[0:23] Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:28] justice for all.

[0:29] Please be seated. Read the mission

[0:34] statement.

[0:37] The mission of the Painesville City Local School District is to provide a positive

[0:41] learning environment that fosters the academic, social, and emotional development

[0:46] of students so that they may be successful in school and in life.

[0:50] May I have a motion to adopt the agenda?

[0:53] So moved. Second.

[0:57] Roll call, please.

[1:00] Mr. South.

[1:00] Yes.

[1:02] Uh, Dr. Webb.

[1:03] Yes.

[1:04] Mrs. Sams.

[1:06] Yes.

[1:07] Mrs. Jennings.

[1:10] Yes.

[1:10] Any member of the public wishing to speak?

[1:13] Not on the agenda items,

[1:18] no.

[1:24] All right.

[1:27] I have a motion to, uh, approve the minutes of the regular meeting of August.

[1:33] So moved. Second.

[1:35] Any edits, corrections, or comments? Roll call, please.

[1:39] Dr. Webb.

[1:40] Yes.

[1:40] Mr. South.

[1:42] Yes.

[1:42] Mrs. Sams.

[1:43] Yes.

[1:44] Mrs. Jennings.

[1:45] Yes.

[1:46] All right. The business of the next regular meeting of the board will be October

[1:50] 12th.

[1:52] Thanks. We'll move on to item 5, the Treasurer's Consent Agenda.

[1:55] Do I have a motion to review the consent agenda?

[1:58] So moved.

[1:59] Second.

[2:03] Okay. Item 5.1 are donations. You can see there were large donations that

[2:09] was provided for pay-per-stick athletics.

[2:13] So that is

[2:17] the new anti-bullying measures. People can apply for a waiver.

[2:21] They'll collect that, and then they'll provide for the

[2:27] people who, um, before the waiver and were an SA, as we

[2:32] did before. Um, 5.2

[2:39] is the permanent appropriations for this year.

[2:41] So, some of the grant dollars changed a little bit.

[2:46] Um, we got an additional grant that we didn't have at the beginning of the end of

[2:50] June, beginning of July. So there was another fund added.

[2:54] Um, I kind of tweaked the general fund a little bit, uh, reduced it a little bit

[2:59] because the forecast was done the month before.

[3:02] So those are the permanent appropriations for this year.

[3:04] I can always amend them as the year goes on.

[3:06] If any increases for those to be, I can always modify those.

[3:12] And then 5.3 is the transfer that I spoke about last board

[3:18] meeting, that our budget reserve was higher than it was allowed to by Ohio's HOPE,

[3:23] so that dollar amount can go back to our general fund and reduce our budget

[3:27] reserve. But it takes board approval for me to do that transaction on the books.

[3:32] Okay, thank you. Any questions?

[3:34] I just have a few.

[3:36] You may ask. Roll call, please.

[3:37] Mrs. Sams.

[3:38] Yes.

[3:39] Dr. Webb.

[3:40] Yes.

[3:40] Mr. South.

[3:41] Yes.

[3:42] Mrs. Jennings.

[3:45] Yes.

[3:45] Okay, then 6.1 to 6.5 are the financials for the

[3:51] month of August.

[3:54] Nothing funny?

[3:57] No.

[3:57] Okay. Roll call.

[4:01] Uh, we'll move on to the superintendent's consent agenda.

[4:06] Do I have a motion to review?

[4:09] So moved. Second.

[4:13] I guess item 7.1 is our preschool handbook for this school year.

[4:18] Item 7.2 is our restatement of the 403 retirement plan.

[4:24] Again, nothing changes on our end.

[4:26] The same provider, there are some changes in terms of service.

[4:29] Uh, 7.3 is our REED Aspire agreement, and 7.4 is Ameto

[4:35] Care's agreement. Those are for specialized student services.

[4:39] Um, those are services that we always access for particular needs of kids.

[4:44] Uh, item 7.5, field trips, these are the Heritage annual trips.

[4:49] One is the day trip, one is the overnight trip.

[4:52] Uh, item 7.6 is a declaration of the practical transportation.

[4:58] And 7.7 is, uh, Wickliffe City School service agreement.

[5:02] This is a shared service agreement that we have with them.

[5:05] Um, this is where we are selling some of the days of our

[5:11] directorate shape federal programs to them.

[5:14] Um, so they're paying us for those days that we're able to give up.

[5:18] Um, items 7.8 and 7.9 are memoranda of understanding

[5:24] for changes in dental insurance.

[5:26] Mm-hmm.

[5:26] Um, with the, uh, healthcare changes that we have taking effect January 1st-

[5:31] Mm-hmm

[5:31] ... we have a new carrier for dental coverage.

[5:35] Um, some of the terms of coverage are different from, um, what are

[5:41] provided, uh, with our current carrier.

[5:44] Those terms are spelled out in the contract, so we've added an OU to capture those

[5:49] changes. Um, and item 7.10 is a disposal of a forklift, which was

[5:55] traded in.

[5:59] Okay. Can we call the roll? I'm sorry.

[6:01] No, you can do that.

[6:04] Yes, I am. All right, we call the roll.

[6:06] Mr. South.

[6:07] Yes.

[6:08] Mrs. Sams.

[6:09] Yes.

[6:10] Dr. Webb.

[6:11] Yes.

[6:11] Mrs. Jennings.

[6:12] Yes.

[6:14] Moving on to 2.9, personnel notes. Do I have a motion to approve?

[6:20] So moved.

[6:20] I'm sorry, what was that?

[6:23] Item eight

[6:28] is also these-

[6:29] Yeah, you can skip. That's just one.

[6:31] Yeah.

[6:32] All right.

[6:33] So yeah, item eight is a non-action-

[6:35] I'm sorry. Yeah

[6:36] ... but it's a first reading of policy, so those, um, those, uh, edits have been-

[6:41] Exactly

[6:42] ... provided to the board. So I'll ask if there's any

[6:46] particular things that jump out, or any suggestions or questions.

[6:50] I guess that was kind of my question was pertaining to, um,

[6:55] what is it? The recording of the AI.

[7:00] Yeah.

[7:00] Right. So

[7:06] what you're saying is, let's just say, for instance,

[7:11] um, a kid's in class, a teacher is saying some super inappropriate things,

[7:17] and a kid decides to take their watch. Let's just say they take their watch.

[7:21] They decide to hit their watch, record this incident.

[7:24] Is the kid now in trouble because they weren't supposed to be recording?

[7:27] Are they not able to record certain situations? Is that what you're saying?

[7:31] Yeah, I mean, that's the case even before this AI policy.

[7:34] This AI policy just expands to capture-

[7:38] Mm-hmm

[7:38] ... new things in that there, there are so many, um, tools that are available now

[7:43] that-

[7:44] Yeah

[7:44] ... don't necessarily record verbatim a meeting or whatever, but

[7:49] they summarize it. And so this policy is kind of fitting

[7:55] those kinds of things into that same arena of where if there

[8:01] is a recording, um, there has to be notification.

[8:06] Gotcha. So it just has to be notified.

[8:09] Yeah.

[8:09] So if I decided as a parent with a child with IDs that I want to record my meeting

[8:14] every day.

[8:15] Yes. Yeah. But there, there does have to be notification. Yeah, absolutely.

[8:19] Yeah, and you have that right currently.

[8:21] Any parent in that situation has that right currently.

[8:24] This just treats those AI tools that summarize-

[8:29] Mm-hmm

[8:29] ... in the same way.

[8:30] Gotcha.

[8:32] Yeah.

[8:32] Would that notification have to take place every time, or could it be sort of a

[8:35] standing notification, "My child's going to be..."

[8:39] At any given time from August of 2026 to May of

[8:44] 2027.

[8:45] No.

[8:45] Yeah, I think there has to be this, there are thresholds and specificity to have

[8:49] that in place.

[8:53] Lee.

[8:53] Yes.

[8:54] Yeah. I'm not a fan of the new AI stuff, but I know that a lot

[9:00] of times-

[9:01] There are certain circumstances where there should have been some sort of

[9:07] cameras to protect said student or teacher from a scenario, because

[9:14] one person says they did this, and now we're basing it off of who do we

[9:20] listen to? Whereas if we had that

[9:25] recording, it would definitely elicit that.

[9:29] Yeah. And that's why it's not uncommon for there to be recording of certain

[9:34] meetings. But there are different laws that regulate certain

[9:40] kinds of meetings in terms of

[9:50] So then I need a roll call vote, please, for 8.0.

[9:54] Yep.

[9:54] Okay. Let us move on to personnel under nine. Motions are reviewed.

[10:00] So moved.

[10:01] Second.

[10:02] Item 9.1, we have resignations and retirements.

[10:06] I want to bring your attention to some retirements that we have on.

[10:10] Jennifer Brickman is an intervention specialist at Maple Elementary School, and

[10:14] she'll be retiring after this year with 23 years of service.

[10:20] Heather Bunken is an ELD teacher at Elm Street, and she'll be retiring at the end

[10:26] of this year with 27 years of service.

[10:31] Wow, 27. That's a long time.

[10:32] And Marlene Johnson, an ELD teacher here at the high school, should be retiring at

[10:37] the end of this year with 21 years of service.

[10:40] So we thank those folks and congratulate them and hope that this is a very

[10:45] rewarding year for them. 9.2 is employment,

[10:51] 9.3 we have change of assignment, 9.4 we have column change, 9.5 we have

[10:56] leaves, 9.6 is supplemental and pupil activity contracts.

[11:02] Item 9.7 is a resolution for hiring non-certified individuals for

[11:08] supplemental pupil activity contracts.

[11:11] Item 9.8 is classified substitutes, item 9.9 is certified substitutes.

[11:17] Item 9.10 is an adoption of last chance agreement with classified employees.

[11:23] Item 9.11 is stipends. And that's it for that block of items.

[11:31] Questions or concerns? May I have roll calls?

[11:35] Mr. Hassell?

[11:36] Yes.

[11:38] Mrs. Sams?

[11:39] Yes.

[11:40] Dr. Webb?

[11:46] Are we including... I'm sorry.

[11:49] 9.10.

[11:51] I'm looking for the number. I apologize.

[11:53] I saw-

[11:54] I think you were-

[11:55] 26-190, Resolution to Adopt Last Chance.

[11:58] I just thought that was something that was separate.

[12:01] But it seems like we're voting on that as a whole with this group of

[12:06] employment?

[12:08] Yes, that is part of the consent agenda right now.

[12:11] Okay.

[12:11] But I'm not going to... I'll say that. Okay, Kathy? Mrs. Jennings?

[12:16] Yes.

[12:19] Are we able to end and remove that one?

[12:22] I'm just asking because we've done it in the past cases.

[12:27] I mean, we can, but, I mean, it passed, so it's kind of useless.

[12:32] Yeah. I ask.

[12:35] Any changes to the agenda, we should make it prior to the vote.

[12:40] Yeah.

[12:42] Okay, did we move on to 9.13 then?

[12:47] Yeah.

[12:47] So these items we'll have to vote on individually because they

[12:53] all involve members of the board.

[12:56] Yeah.

[12:56] So item 9.13... So do we need a motion and a second for each one of these?

[13:01] Yeah.

[13:02] Okay.

[13:03] I'll move for 9.13.

[13:05] Second.

[13:06] Okay. Item 9.13 is compensation for professional development for Francis Webb.

[13:14] Mr. Hassell?

[13:15] Yes.

[13:15] Mrs. Sams?

[13:17] Yes.

[13:18] Dr. Webb?

[13:20] I'm the same. Yes.

[13:21] Mrs. Jennings?

[13:21] Yes.

[13:24] Perfect.

[13:26] We have a motion for 9.14.

[13:28] So moved.

[13:29] I'll second. Item 9.14 is compensation for professional development for Jessica

[13:35] Sams.

[13:36] Mr. Hassell?

[13:37] Yes.

[13:38] Dr. Webb?

[13:38] Yes.

[13:40] Mrs. Sams?

[13:41] Same.

[13:42] Mrs. Jennings?

[13:45] Yes.

[13:45] I make the motion for 9.15.

[13:47] Second.

[13:49] Item 9.15 is compensation for professional development for Jess Jennings.

[13:53] So moved.

[13:54] Second.

[13:56] Okay, so Dr. Webb?

[13:58] Yes.

[14:00] Mrs. Sams?

[14:00] Yes.

[14:01] Mr. Hassell?

[14:02] Yes.

[14:02] Mrs. Jennings?

[14:04] Yes.

[14:07] And then as we continue into item 10, it's the same thing.

[14:10] So that was for the under Item 9,

[14:16] for each of the board members, that was for professional development compensation.

[14:22] In Item 10, it is for the professional visit expenses.

[14:27] I make a motion for 10.1.

[14:30] 10.1 is a professional visit paid out of the general fund for Jess Jennings.

[14:34] I'm sorry, move-

[14:35] Second

[14:36] ... item 2 is-

[14:36] Okay. Mr. Hassell?

[14:39] Yes.

[14:39] Mrs. Sams?

[14:40] Yes.

[14:41] Dr. Webb?

[14:41] Yes.

[14:42] Mrs. Jennings?

[14:44] Yes.

[14:44] Item 10.2 is for Francis Webb.

[14:46] Motion.

[14:52] Second.

[14:52] Mr. Hassell?

[14:53] Yes.

[14:53] Mrs. Sams?

[14:54] Yes.

[14:55] Dr. Webb?

[14:56] Yes.

[14:58] Mrs. Jennings?

[14:59] That's what I thought too, but she didn't abstain on hers.

[15:03] I think.

[15:04] Okay.

[15:04] I just didn't see that.

[15:05] Okay. That's fine.

[15:06] I didn't abstain, so I way more than-

[15:09] I was just going to say, maybe if I see my name.

[15:12] Yeah. Let's go general.

[15:14] If I see my name. Some people voted to vote for themselves, so some people feel

[15:19] uncomfortable with the way it's...

[15:21] Curious.

[15:21] Yes. It's...

[15:23] I don't think there's a right or wrong answer.

[15:25] It's just what most people feel comfortable with.

[15:28] Okay.

[15:31] You were a yes?

[15:32] Yeah.

[15:34] Mrs. Jennings, you were a yes?

[15:35] Yes.

[15:36] Okay.

[15:37] And does that take us to 10.3? 10.3 is professional visits paid out of the general

[15:41] fund for Jessica Sams.

[15:43] So moved.

[15:49] Second.

[15:51] Dr. Webb?

[15:51] Yes.

[15:52] Mr. Hassell?

[15:55] Yes.

[15:55] Mrs. Sams?

[15:55] Yes.

[15:58] I was like, "I don't need to do that."

[16:01] Mrs. Jennings?

[16:01] Yes.

[16:02] Okay, so next time, you guys are normally abstaining, so I figured if we were all

[16:06] in one and everybody abstained, it wouldn't go anywhere.

[16:09] So we vote them all out, because you guys normally abstain.

[16:11] If you guys are all going to say yes next time, we can all be one.

[16:15] You guys are chill?

[16:17] Just, listen, I take a lot of time to

[16:23] decide what to do.

[16:24] Good job. All right.

[16:26] So we move on to 11. Any hearing or public comment?

[16:29] Yes, ma'am. Tonight we have Paige Hojo.

[16:32] Okay, cool.

[16:45] Let's see. Now, before you speak, I'm required to read the

[16:49] following.

[16:52] If you would indulge me a second while I make my way through this. Okay.

[17:02] I have not had experience in this. I pretty much, I don't have to read the initial

[17:08] hearing of the public comments. I'm not-

[17:10] It's completely-

[17:11] Should I read the whole thing?

[17:12] Read it again?

[17:15] Is it a big break? I didn't get it.

[17:18] I'll give you the... I think you can go back to the first one.

[17:22] All right.

[17:25] Thank you.

[17:35] Go ahead,

[17:37] sir.

[17:37] Thank you for your patience.

[17:40] The Board of Education recognizes the value to school governance of public comment

[17:44] on educational issues and the op- Allowing members of the public to express

[17:48] themselves in possible matters of community interest.

[17:52] As outlined in Board of Education bylaw 0169.1, the board shall provide a

[17:58] period for public participation at all regular meetings, and such participation

[18:02] shall be permitted only as indicated in the order of business for that meeting.

[18:07] This typically occurs at two points in the agenda.

[18:09] The first opportunity occurs during hearing of the public on agenda items.

[18:13] This portion is designated for comment on specific agenda items under consideration

[18:18] by the Board of Education. The second opportunity occurs during the hearing of the

[18:23] public on non-agenda items. This portion is designated for comment on school

[18:28] matters of community interest. The guidelines for public participation include the

[18:33] following: Attendees must register their intention to participate in the public

[18:38] portion of the meeting upon their arrival.

[18:40] Each statement made by a participant shall be limited to five minutes duration,

[18:44] unless extended by the presiding officer.

[18:47] All statements shall be directed to the presiding officer.

[18:50] No person may address or question board members individually.

[18:54] The complete set of rules for public participation is contained in bylaw

[18:59] 0169.1 and is available at all meetings of the Board of Education.

[19:03] They may also be found online at www.pcls.net.

[19:11] Mrs. Miller, could you acknowledge our visitor and comments?

[19:15] Yes, this is Paige Boja.

[19:19] Please go ahead.

[19:20] Okay. I have three kids going to Cantwell Schools that are finding their knees in

[19:26] the field. I was not expecting full attendance and they all can immediately agree

[19:31] for kids.

[19:32] I've gotten phone calls before my kid even has to leave the school about

[19:38] the dress code policy and wearing sweatpants.

[19:43] I don't have the funds, like many other parents do, to buy specific clothes for

[19:49] school. I think the dress code is a little too strict because when it comes to

[19:54] sweatpants, I mean, they're fully covered. They should be fine.

[19:59] And I can't spend 30 minutes every day trying to find

[20:05] pants that dress code approves, which is not a whole lot of time.

[20:09] There are also not a lot of sizes that fit the girls that come to Hardy High

[20:14] School. The pants are either falling down or they're too tight.

[20:20] And I actually have the same problem trying to find pants for myself.

[20:24] Girls' clothes are not made the same as they was.

[20:27] And Brianna comes to Hardy. She has amazing grades, so her clothes are not

[20:32] affecting her grades.

[20:35] And then we also get texts every morning, calls every morning that they're late to

[20:40] school even though they've been picked up.

[20:45] I think just issues getting them there and then with the COVID.

[20:54] Definitely appreciate her perspective.

[20:59] It's really important that parents come and communicate these things to us so that

[21:04] we can talk and try to figure out what works for everybody.

[21:09] I appreciate that.

[21:10] Where's the hub?

[21:12] It's actually just right across the room.

[21:16] It's that room right across the hall from here.

[21:19] They were coming close today and I had to take the kids out of the school.

[21:25] Out of the school?

[21:26] Yeah, they need to leave. We were lucky we needed to pick them up, so then I got

[21:31] the call at a little after 2:00. My kid doesn't get out of school till 3:00, so

[21:37] then the other kids had to wait after they leave till like 4:00 for me to pick them

[21:41] up.

[21:46] Do they have bus riders?

[21:48] It's a school transportation. It's like a mini van or something.

[21:52] Okay.

[21:53] So you need to not do that.

[21:58] I'd love to talk to you about your particular

[22:04] circumstances so I can understand what that is to be able to speak to that.

[22:09] Yeah, the hub is a space that's open for kids, so they have just a place to be

[22:14] after school. Sometimes there's days that we don't have supervision for it,

[22:20] so they can't make it open. It's usually open.

[22:22] But if you have a particular transportation issue, I want to talk to you about it

[22:28] so I can get some details.

[22:33] Anything else?

[22:38] No.

[22:38] No, unless there's anything you need to answer. Just want to provide your number.

[22:42] I'm sorry.

[22:43] No, we're good. I don't know if-

[22:45] Yeah. So if you can leave your information or we grab your information, so that way

[22:50] we can piece some things together where we can get a better understanding of what's

[22:55] going on with bus situation. We appreciate it.

[22:59] Thank you so much for coming.

[23:08] And I'll move on to item 12. I believe someone other than the board president is to

[23:13] read this pursuant to Ohio attorneys executive session.

[23:21] Pursuant to Ohio Revised Code Section 111.22 [1] , the board adjourns to executive

[23:26] session for the purpose of considering the appointment, employment, dismissal,

[23:31] discipline, promotion, compensation of an employee or official of the school

[23:35] district.

[23:38] Make that motion?

[23:41] So moved.

[23:43] Second.

[23:46] Okay. Commissioner South?

[23:47] Yes.

[23:49] Dr. Lautzenhiser?

[23:50] Yes.

[23:50] Mrs. Sams?

[23:51] Yes.

[23:52] Mrs. Jennings?

[23:53] Yes.

[23:59] Mr. Wistrom?

[24:02] Do we all call?

[24:03] Yeah.

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