[0:06] Ice to the flag of the United States of

[0:10] America and to the republic for which it

[0:13] stands. One nation under God,

[0:16] indivisible, with liberty and justice

[0:19] for all.

[0:21] >> Thank you.

[0:23] So follow this evening to order.

[0:26] First we have the consent agenda. Anyone

[0:30] have any comments on the consent agenda?

[0:34] If not, is there a motion?

[0:36] >> I move to approve the consent agenda as

[0:38] presented and authorize the mayor to

[0:40] sign.

[0:42] >> Second, go ahead. I'll second that

[0:44] motion.

[0:46] >> McMahon.

[0:46] >> Hi.

[0:47] >> Hugo.

[0:47] >> Hi.

[0:48] >> Brown.

[0:48] >> Hi.

[0:48] >> Shields.

[0:49] >> Hi. You. All right. Comments from the

[0:53] panel. Is there anyone here that would

[0:54] like to address the council on anything

[0:56] not on the agenda?

[1:00] kind of feel stupid.

[1:01] >> No, you're fine.

[1:07] » My name's Daniel Cornelius and uh I'm

[1:11] not sure about the if this the tax raise

[1:14] increase is on jer.

[1:16] >> There's a budget hearing a little bit

[1:17] later if you want to speak then.

[1:19] >> Oh, okay. In like two minutes, we'll

[1:22] open it and I'll

[1:24] Yeah, you're good. You're good. Any

[1:29] other comments for the public?

[1:35] » All right.

[1:37] Next, we have the public hearing for the

[1:41] uh exceeding the revenue neutral rate. I

[1:44] get a motion to open the public hearing.

[1:46] >> I'll make a motion to open the public

[1:48] hearing regarding the revenue neutral

[1:50] rate. Miss Mayor,

[1:51] >> I'll second that motion.

[1:54] >> Big man.

[1:54] >> Hi.

[1:55] >> Hugle.

[1:55] >> Hi.

[1:55] >> Brown.

[1:56] >> Hi. Shields.

[1:57] >> I

[1:59] >> All right.

[2:00] Now, this is about the revenue neutral

[2:02] rate and the next one's about the actual

[2:04] budget. So, either one's a public

[2:06] hearing. You could speak.

[2:08] >> Oh,

[2:08] >> now if you would like. I should have

[2:10] just told you to hang out for a minute.

[2:14] >> I I just I appreciate you all's service

[2:17] and what you do for us and everything.

[2:19] >> And your name was

[2:20] >> Daniel Cornelius.

[2:21] >> And can you give us your address for a

[2:22] minute?

[2:23] >> 406 East WA.

[2:24] >> Okay. Thank you. And I guess my concerns

[2:27] is is the tax increase on a house. I

[2:31] mean, we all work hard for a lot of

[2:34] things we get and

[2:37] I understand we tax a lot of things and

[2:40] I it's just part of life, but I think we

[2:42] should just be careful when it comes to

[2:45] taxing or increasing stuff a house that

[2:50] we live in. and it starts out $60

[2:53] increase and then 10 years from now and

[2:55] the next thing you know somebody's

[2:57] renting a house from the city of Piola

[2:58] when they own it. So I just think that

[3:02] maybe we should be careful about

[3:06] increasing our property taxes on stuff

[3:09] like where we live and where we dwell.

[3:12] And thank you all again for letting me

[3:14] talk because that was my

[3:16] >> Okay. Thank you.

[3:17] >> Thank you very much. Anyone else want to

[3:20] speak during this hearing?

[3:24] Can I get a motion to close the public

[3:25] hearing? Oh.

[3:27] >> Oh, no. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Just

[3:28] kidding. We have to talk about it first.

[3:32] Don't put the gun.

[3:33] >> Yeah. So, um Okay. So, the Senate Bill

[3:35] 13 was passed to um bring a way to make

[3:38] the budget process transparent. I do

[3:40] believe it made it just a little more

[3:42] confusing because it took the dollar

[3:43] amount out and now it's just numbers. Um

[3:45] so the city of PA did receive a revenue

[3:47] neutral rate of 42.77 mills and staff

[3:51] did prepare a budget and the expected

[3:54] expenditures did come out to be 44.443

[3:58] mills which does exceed the rate by 1.67

[4:01] mills and that comes to a dollar amount

[4:03] of about $150,000

[4:06] um for the overall budget. Um

[4:08] considering prices don't go down and

[4:10] salaries go up that was a pretty minimal

[4:13] increase. Um I believe for this budget

[4:18] >> we also need to consider the um

[4:20] resolution

[4:21] >> resolution during the public hearing.

[4:22] >> Okay.

[4:24] >> I should just stand on my paper. Okay.

[4:27] So um does anyone have any questions or

[4:29] comments on the um resolution to exceed

[4:32] the revenue rate?

[4:35] >> I just had a few comments. Hey Daniel,

[4:37] thank you for coming in today. Very very

[4:39] much appreciated and I understand where

[4:41] you're coming from when it's all said

[4:43] and done. Oh, one thing that I did

[4:46] notice on this budget that when we went

[4:48] in,

[4:50] if I can see any more, uh, we originally

[4:53] were looking at a

[4:55] 45.146

[4:57] mill levy.

[4:59] Uh, staff brought it back to council and

[5:02] we shaved off not a tremendous amount,

[5:05] but we were able to get it down to

[5:08] 44.44.

[5:11] And uh I always bring mine in

[5:15] uh to see where where I end up at. A lot

[5:18] of people look at the bottom line and stuff like that. My pilot increase

[5:23] was originally and to be transparent, my

[5:26] house is the county likes my house, so

[5:29] take that one. $377,200

[5:32] is what they got me appraised at. And

[5:34] this and this is all public knowledge.

[5:36] So like I've given state secrets away.

[5:39] uh started on 19 1,95834

[5:43] and then uh we were able to get it down

[5:46] to 1927. $3045. Not much, but it does

[5:50] add up. Then my entire bill went up

[5:53] 7907.

[5:55] One thing I did also notice on this,

[5:57] which a lot of people don't realize, is

[5:58] that the library's hospice, even though

[6:01] they they operate independently,

[6:04] they can't have their own budget

[6:05] hearing. They have to go through us. and

[6:07] uh they do a good job over there, but uh

[6:10] about five of our mills, what we're

[6:12] looking at is uh in the library. Uh I

[6:16] thought staff did a good job of bringing

[6:18] down the employee benefits and I believe

[6:21] our bond and interest and I will say one

[6:24] thing is this council and staff is is

[6:27] very very stingy when it comes to

[6:28] borrowing money uh for that. One thing

[6:31] that we did put in and business council

[6:34] uh started this about a year ago. We're

[6:36] really really interested doing our

[6:38] downtown area. So we put uh $75,000

[6:42] into the downtown CIP

[6:45] and uh we got a good people working over

[6:47] at the community center now and in the

[6:49] community center. Uh we're trying to

[6:52] enlarge a parking lot and do some other

[6:55] stuff over there. Uh we were blessed

[6:57] with the we all mission fence over there

[6:59] and it's uh we got contracts over there

[7:02] with an agreement with those people for

[7:04] that over there next to the hospital

[7:05] with that. Uh I will say one thing I was

[7:09] able to talk to our police department

[7:11] here lately. We did expand our budget to

[7:14] get them better stuff and uh I was

[7:18] asking them uh how's it looking? What are you doing? And uh they came

[7:23] back and said

[7:26] that the one thing that they noticed

[7:28] that the media was uh is their trait

[7:31] tasers and the taser so much better than

[7:33] they than they were before. And they

[7:37] told me about they had some incidences

[7:39] with some dogs and stuff like that they

[7:41] were able to resolve very very quickly

[7:43] with the new tasers. It couldn't it

[7:46] might not have turned out so well with

[7:47] the other one. Uh, another thing is what

[7:49] the people do in town is, uh, we have a

[7:52] sales tax and I was able to see that

[7:55] Chief Hardy was able to get his new

[7:57] engine. I I I seen it running the other

[7:59] day, so it was out moving. So, other

[8:02] than that, I I know it's difficult and

[8:04] nobody likes paying taxes, me included.

[8:07] But staff did a good job and some of the

[8:11] stuff that you see is that we're trying

[8:12] to invest into our future. So, with

[8:15] that, I I am done.

[8:18] I will say um I'm thankful for our

[8:21] multiple revenue streams. Um a lot of

[8:24] cities don't have the blessing that we

[8:27] have with sales tax and different

[8:28] revenue stream. So actually less than

[8:31] 25% of our budget is from property

[8:34] taxes, which is nice. Um it's it's heavy

[8:38] but not not near as bad as it could be.

[8:40] So I'm grateful for that.

[8:42] Anybody else have anything?

[8:46] That's all I Okay. Um, if there's

[8:49] nothing else, is there a motion to

[8:50] approve the resolution?

[8:55] » I move to approve resolution number

[8:57] 2026-010

[8:59] to levy property tax rate exceeding the

[9:01] revenue neutral rate for the city of

[9:03] payroll.

[9:04] >> I'll second that motion.

[9:07] >> McMahon.

[9:08] >> Hi.

[9:08] >> Hu.

[9:09] >> Hi.

[9:09] >> Brown.

[9:09] >> Hi.

[9:10] >> Shields.

[9:10] >> I.

[9:12] >> All right. Now, can I get a motion to

[9:14] close the public hearing? I move to

[9:16] close the public hearing.

[9:20] » I'll second that motion.

[9:23] >> McMahon.

[9:24] >> I.

[9:28] » All right. Thank you.

[9:30] Now we have the public hearing for the

[9:33] proposed 2027 PAL city budget. Is there

[9:36] a motion to open the public hearing?

[9:39] >> I'll make a motion to open the public

[9:40] hearing.

[9:42] No second

[9:44] man.

[9:44] >> Hi.

[9:46] >> Brown. Hi. Shields.

[9:47] >> Hi.

[9:48] >> All right. Is there anyone that wants to

[9:50] address the council on the actual

[9:52] budget?

[9:54] No one.

[10:00] » Can I get a motion to close the public

[10:02] hearing?

[10:03] >> I'll make a motion to close public

[10:04] hearing. I'll second that.

[10:08] >> McMahon.

[10:08] >> Hi.

[10:09] >> Hugo.

[10:09] >> Hi.

[10:09] >> Brown.

[10:10] >> Hi.

[10:10] >> Shield. I

[10:12] >> thank you. All right. Consider adoption

[10:14] of the 2027 GA city budget. So she was

[10:18] definitely on his emails.

[10:19] >> So I'll just briefly let you know that

[10:22] um the proposed 2027 budget um authority

[10:25] for expenditures is 18,561203

[10:28] with the mill levy um of 44.443.

[10:32] Um so as we talked about all the budgets

[10:35] um expenditures do not rely solely on

[10:37] the property tax. Uh the proposed mill

[10:39] levy will provide provide 3,984750

[10:43] of the revenue and the remaining will

[10:45] come from uh sources such as sales tax

[10:48] and um the enterprise fund revenues. Um

[10:51] and we have additionally we've drawn

[10:53] down our reserves to limit the increase

[10:56] on property taxes over the years.

[11:02] Anybody have anything on this you want

[11:04] to say or ask?

[11:07] I guess I'll just piggy back some on

[11:09] what was said before that um we've all

[11:13] been in these conversations, but just

[11:15] for those of you who haven't, we we

[11:16] never take these increases lightly. It's

[11:20] always our goal to have the city be

[11:22] running as sufficiently as possible and

[11:24] staff works really hard to to make sure

[11:27] that we're doing that. And u with

[11:31] everything as expensive as it is, it's

[11:32] just

[11:35] the a necessity to the poor children.

[11:40] Anybody else?

[11:43] Thank you staff and department heads for

[11:45] all your work on everything. I know

[11:47] everybody has to cut their wish list

[11:48] every year a little bit. Um so we

[11:51] appreciate all our work. If there aren't

[11:54] any other questions or comments, can I

[11:55] get a motion?

[12:03] I I move to adopt the 2027 payable city

[12:05] budget in the amount of $18,561,23

[12:09] and authorize the necessary signatures.

[12:11] >> I'll second that.

[12:14] >> McMahon.

[12:14] >> Hi,

[12:15] >> Hugo.

[12:15] >> Hi,

[12:16] >> Brown.

[12:16] >> I

[12:18] motion pass.

[12:20] All right. Next we have um a public

[12:23] hearing on a dangerous structure at 9

[12:26] East Chipa.

[12:28] Can I get a motion to open the public

[12:30] hearing on this?

[12:32] >> I move to open the public hearing

[12:33] regarding the dangerous structure at 9

[12:35] East Chipa.

[12:37] >> I'll second that motion.

[12:40] >> I

[12:46] » All right. Is there anyone that wants to

[12:48] speak on the dangerous structure on

[12:50] nipple?

[12:53] Miss seeing no one. Okay. Mitch, is this

[12:56] you?

[12:56] >> Yes.

[12:57] >> So, we've been through this a few times.

[12:59] Uh

[13:01] in July, if you guys remember, you set

[13:02] the public hearing uh to determine if

[13:07] the structure at 9 Street is to be

[13:11] deemed dangerous in order to repaired or

[13:14] demolished. Uh the city clerks has sent

[13:16] out all the notifications. I remember u

[13:21] believe it's one of them might have got

[13:23] missed the first time if we're redoing

[13:25] this to make sure we're following all

[13:26] the steps. Um building inspector

[13:30] conducted the preliminary investigation

[13:32] on this and prepared a formal report.

[13:36] Uh, I visited the property since the

[13:38] public hearing was set and actually I

[13:41] went back to it just before the meeting

[13:42] today and there hasn't been any changes

[13:44] to the property. Um, no improvements

[13:46] have been made and the property owner

[13:48] hasn't gotten a hold of me. I haven't

[13:50] had any communication with them. Um,

[13:52] I've had a little bit of communication

[13:54] with the

[13:56] lean holder for sale on the property

[13:58] lender. Um, and at this point he does

[14:03] not have any plans on taking over the

[14:04] property and fixing it.

[14:08] So,

[14:10] city council may pass a resolution

[14:12] ordering the structure to be repaired or

[14:15] resolution to order the structure to be

[14:18] deemed demolished. Um, if council

[14:21] decides to order it to be repaired,

[14:24] staff recommends allowing 6 months for

[14:26] the repairs to take place as that is the

[14:29] amount of time a a building permit has

[14:32] until it's invalid to get a first

[14:35] inspection.

[14:36] Council decides to

[14:40] order it to be demolished. Staff's

[14:41] recommending

[14:43] allowing 60 days for demol demolition to

[14:46] take place as that is the time period

[14:48] that a demolition permit is valid.

[14:52] Staff's recommendation on this is to

[14:55] pass the resolution deeming it dangerous

[14:58] and uh ordering it to be demolished.

[15:02] Uh just to go over a couple notes on

[15:04] Inspector Buckles

[15:07] inspection of it. Uh the roof covering

[15:10] is completely deteriorated and appears

[15:13] to be unable to stop the intrusion of

[15:15] water from getting into the framing

[15:17] below.

[15:19] Uh roof framing is rotten which can

[15:23] compromise the structural integrity of

[15:25] the roof as a hole. Uh the fasia and

[15:28] sopets have been completely rotted away.

[15:31] They're non-existent at this point. So

[15:34] it's allowing weather to enter

[15:35] underneath the roof.

[15:37] Um the biggest thing the foundation is failing. There's large sections of

[15:43] the rock foundation that are bowing out

[15:45] enough to pull the siding off the house

[15:47] and break the siding multiple spots. Um

[15:51] as well as it's it's a crawl space, so

[15:55] there's there's nothing uh preventing

[15:58] animals or anything like that from

[16:02] getting in there. Uh the house has been

[16:04] vacant for multiple years with no

[16:06] utilities connected, including a way to

[16:08] heat and cool the interior of the house,

[16:11] which also leads to deterioration.

[16:14] And it's also missing gutters, which is

[16:16] allowing water to collect around the

[16:17] foundation, leading to further damage.

[16:28] » I have a question. So you said something

[16:31] about six months.

[16:34] When when will this happen?

[16:37] >> So if you guys decide to pass a

[16:41] resolution ordering it to be repaired.

[16:43] So you have to

[16:45] >> pass for repairing or demolishing.

[16:48] >> Demolishing.

[16:48] >> If you guys chose to have it repaired,

[16:52] >> um we would have to give them six

[16:53] months.

[16:54] >> Okay. as that's how long a building

[16:56] permit would get for. They would be

[16:58] required also to get that permit within

[17:01] 30 days. If you guys decided

[17:04] >> otherwise

[17:05] >> if if you guys decide to pass the

[17:07] resolution to order it to be demolished,

[17:10] >> then they would have 60 days to demolish

[17:12] it

[17:14] >> and the city will hire somebody to

[17:17] demolish it.

[17:18] >> Yes. So after that 60 days, we'll come

[17:20] back here and we'll decide on the

[17:22] contractor if they haven't that far.

[17:27] » Hopefully they do. That's what we

[17:29] decide. It's

[17:30] >> always the goal.

[17:31] >> Yeah.

[17:33] Any else question for Mitch? We we do

[17:36] give up multiple opportunities and I

[17:38] think we've been talking about this for

[17:40] a year year and a half now.

[17:41] >> Yeah. And I' I've talked to Yeah. I I

[17:44] I've talked to the owner before he

[17:47] stopped responding to me

[17:50] for probably three years now. Uh

[17:53] and originally he had said he planned on

[17:55] fixing it up.

[17:58] Those plans stopped, but

[18:00] I have had communication directly with

[18:02] him on this.

[18:05] Just been several years.

[18:07] >> I know you've been at it for a long

[18:09] time.

[18:09] >> Yeah.

[18:10] >> Uh we had one demolished

[18:13] or we were going to have it and then I

[18:15] believe the insurance proceeds. But on

[18:17] something like this right here, how do

[18:19] we do we rec do we recoup our money

[18:23] whenever it goes on a tax sale or

[18:25] something like that?

[18:28] >> So yeah, if once it's demolished, the

[18:31] city has it demolished, um we'll pay the

[18:33] bill for the contractor and then we'll

[18:35] invoice the property owner. Um if they

[18:38] don't pay that then it gets assessed as

[18:41] a special assessment on a on a property

[18:43] >> and we try to what 30,000 a year would

[18:47] normally to demolish structures or do we

[18:50] know

[18:50] >> uh 30,000 is is the total contractual.

[18:54] So that's for building claim review

[18:57] nuisance mowing all of that. So it

[19:00] really leaves 15,000 maybe.

[19:02] >> Okay. uh plus or minus some, you know,

[19:05] depending on how much building reviews

[19:07] are.

[19:09] >> So, yeah, but we have enough in the

[19:11] budget this at this point, too.

[19:14] >> Okay. All right. Thank you.

[19:15] >> So, we don't know if this man has

[19:18] insurance on that house.

[19:20] >> No, that's something I don't don't know.

[19:26] » All right. Anybody else? If not, is

[19:29] there a motion

[19:31] to close the building? I'm sorry. You

[19:33] guys hear

[19:36] >> a lot of public hearings. I move to

[19:38] close the public hearing.

[19:40] >> I'll second that.

[19:42] >> McMahon.

[19:43] >> Hi.

[19:43] >> Hugo.

[19:44] >> Hi.

[19:44] >> Brown.

[19:44] >> Hi.

[19:45] >> Shields.

[19:46] >> I.

[19:47] >> All right.

[19:50] Now, is there a motion to consider

[19:53] resolution?

[19:55] I move to approve resolution number

[19:57] 2026-011

[19:59] finding that the structure located at

[20:01] 90's Chipoa is unsafe or dangerous and

[20:03] directing the structure to be removed

[20:05] and the premises remain safe and secure.

[20:08] >> I'll second that happily.

[20:11] >> McMahon I

[20:12] >> Hugo

[20:12] >> I

[20:12] >> Brown

[20:13] >> Shields

[20:14] >> I All right, motion pass.

[20:18] Okay, you all are welcome to stay the

[20:20] rest if you want. If you like don't feel

[20:23] like you have to stay because you're

[20:24] already here, but you're more than

[20:25] welcome to stay and observe. We're not

[20:27] kicking you out, but I'm just telling

[20:29] you there's sometimes people have they

[20:32] feel like they have to stay, but they

[20:33] don't.

[20:33] >> I'll be

[20:34] >> You might as well.

[20:36] >> Find an interest.

[20:37] >> I Okay, good.

[20:38] >> So, I need I just want to give you a

[20:40] pass if you had other things to do.

[20:42] >> You're welcome.

[20:44] >> All right. New business

[20:48] emergency response plan annual review.

[20:50] And this is a relative resolution.

[20:52] >> Yeah, we have the um emergency response

[20:54] plan and the emergency water supply plan

[20:57] that we review every year. Um usually

[20:59] there's no changes. This year it was

[21:02] just some contact updates. That was it.

[21:08] >> And this is this may be a silly

[21:09] question. This is something that like

[21:11] you guys actually like look through.

[21:13] Does this still make sense kind of every

[21:15] year? Correct. Okay. It's not just like

[21:18] on the shelf and nobody really looks at

[21:20] what it is anymore,

[21:20] >> right? Good.

[21:21] >> We use it more than we want to.

[21:23] >> Okay. Okay.

[21:27] » Well, it must have been a good plan

[21:29] because it worked out well. So, I was

[21:31] just curious. I figured that would be

[21:33] the answer I got. Thought I would ask.

[21:35] Anybody else have any questions on this

[21:37] one?

[21:38] If not, is there a motion? Move to

[21:41] approve resolution number 2026-012

[21:45] city of pale emergency response plan and

[21:47] water system emergency response plan.

[21:54] » I used to work on these I will second

[21:57] that

[22:00] McMahon.

[22:00] >> Hi.

[22:01] Brown.

[22:02] >> Hi Shields.

[22:02] >> Hi.

[22:04] >> All right.

[22:06] Next, the renewal of the housing

[22:08] incentive program, and this is an

[22:09] ordinance.

[22:12] >> So, we've had this program for several

[22:14] years now. It's been a good program in

[22:17] New Zealand. Um, so every year we take

[22:20] it yearly to analyze it, make sure it's

[22:23] still being used and

[22:25] still valid.

[22:27] I reviewed it and didn't see anything

[22:30] that needed changed for building trends.

[22:33] on um what a lot of the builders are

[22:36] doing right now as far as uh the future

[22:39] we may want to eventually start looking

[22:41] at the construction values um because

[22:45] they're sectioned off you know 100 to

[22:48] 210,000

[22:51] um they receive a 65% we may want to

[22:54] look at bumping that up a little bit

[22:56] just because housing prices in general

[22:58] are going up it's it's pretty tough to

[23:00] build uh something other than a small

[23:04] like you know one or two bedroom house

[23:06] uh for that kind of money now but I

[23:08] think for the next year we're still good

[23:09] with these numbers u

[23:13] just kind of as an overview um also

[23:16] 210,000

[23:17] to 299,000 receives a 55% reduction in

[23:21] permit and planer view fees and then

[23:25] construction values over 300,000 receive

[23:28] 45%

[23:30] and uh on building building permit and

[23:33] planer view. Um, and then where I think

[23:36] it really comes in handy, um, is people

[23:39] that buy the infill lots, they get 65%

[23:42] reduction on both fees as well as a 45%

[23:45] reduction on sewer connection fee, water

[23:48] connection fees.

[23:51] So, you guys should have in your packet

[23:55] a chart of going over the permits. I

[23:58] believe it was used

[24:00] to build nine new houses in the last

[24:03] year, September to September,

[24:06] um for a total savings on

[24:09] permittes of $16,54.

[24:15] So, it's not a ton, but it's something

[24:17] that we can do to help incentivize

[24:19] people building town,

[24:22] especially in the NFL areas.

[24:26] Well, it's just like you said, we may

[24:28] want to look at the home values,

[24:29] construction values down the road

[24:30] because there's two under 300, barely

[24:33] under 300.

[24:34] >> So, and I would still also be in favor

[24:38] of

[24:40] visiting or discussing the kind of the

[24:43] double dipping that we talked about had

[24:45] our work study with if we ever do

[24:47] incentives of any type. I don't know how

[24:50] you guys all feel and I know we can talk

[24:51] about it later because this is a what

[24:53] we're dealing with right now, but um it

[24:55] just might be something that we want to

[24:56] talk about before it's an issue down the

[24:58] road.

[24:59] >> I hope is an issue down the road.

[25:03] Um because we went home still for sure.

[25:08] Anybody have any questions for Mitch on

[25:10] this? It's worthwhile for us. I don't

[25:12] remember when we put it in place. 2016.

[25:15] Yeah.

[25:16] No,

[25:18] >> it's been a long time ago.

[25:20] >> Uh,

[25:22] >> I think I did the original one in like

[25:26] 2014

[25:28] is when I started.

[25:28] >> It's been a long time. Yeah.

[25:30] >> Yeah. It's been a longgo. It's been

[25:32] modified. Yeah.

[25:33] >> But the main idea started

[25:35] >> Yeah.

[25:35] >> over a decade ago.

[25:36] >> Yes.

[25:37] >> And it's worked well for us.

[25:38] >> Oh, God. Yeah. So, actually,

[25:45] » right. Anybody else have a question?

[25:47] >> I just I got just a quick comment. Maybe it's it's because we lost a couple

[25:52] houses there within a couple years of

[25:54] each other. You know, you go to the

[25:55] Presbyterian church and then that house

[25:58] that got burnt, we said, you know, it

[25:59] was tore down and then we go a little

[26:01] bit further and then I believe there's a

[26:03] they had a house fire there and they

[26:05] tore that down that same area. Then I

[26:07] seen that the church sold that it's over

[26:09] there. So quite quite a little bit of

[26:10] change in in in the neighborhood right

[26:12] there. I don't know. And again, that

[26:14] this just comments at me. Uh it'd be

[26:17] nice to get more action in on those

[26:19] infield lots. I I don't I don't know

[26:21] what the city can do really other than

[26:22] do a program like this and to bring one

[26:25] in. But I know those infill lots, you

[26:27] know, today's houses are a little bigger

[26:29] than the other houses. Like Mitch was

[26:31] saying, you know, most people are

[26:32] looking for a three-bedroom house, but

[26:34] to build on an info lot's difficult, and

[26:37] I do understand that. I wish there was

[26:38] something else we can do. Maybe keep

[26:40] that in your hip pocket if something

[26:42] comes up. It's all I ask. Yeah, I do

[26:44] like how they are addressed separately

[26:45] in this program.

[26:46] >> Yeah, like I said, it's it when you when

[26:48] you drive through that alert, it's kind

[26:50] of stark. Looks right at you there, you

[26:52] know, because one of our main arterials

[26:54] is got some empty spots on it. But

[26:57] unfortunately, housing stock gets old.

[27:01] >> And in those situations where a house

[27:04] either burns down or

[27:06] you know, somebody moves out and it's

[27:08] not great shape, somebody buys it, wants

[27:10] to demolish it and build a new one. as

[27:12] long as their uh water and sewer meter

[27:14] or water meter and sewer tap are still

[27:18] in place in good condition because when

[27:20] they tear a house down, they leave the

[27:22] tap in place and just cap it. As long as

[27:24] those are in place, we typically wave

[27:26] those fees completely.

[27:27] >> Uh they typically just have to pay for

[27:29] like parts if we have to update a meter

[27:31] or something like that. So

[27:34] that part of it helps out a ton because

[27:38] sewer connections $3,750 and the water

[27:42] meter is $3,000. So those take up a big

[27:44] part of the permit fees. U this kind of

[27:48] kicks in when the properties have been

[27:50] sitting vacant for 10, 15, 20 years u or

[27:54] just have never been been built on. U so

[27:58] that helps fill those ones in. That's

[28:00] good information and it really staff.

[28:03] >> Thanks, Mitch.

[28:05] >> Anybody else?

[28:07] If not, is there a motion? I move to

[28:10] adopt ordinance number 3254 renewing the

[28:13] new housing construction incentive

[28:16] program.

[28:18] >> I'll second that motion.

[28:20] >> McMahon.

[28:21] >> I

[28:25] motion. Uh next we have the trash rate

[28:28] adjustment ordinance number 3255.

[28:33] >> Okay. So our trash fund is an enterprise

[28:35] fund that is basically supported by

[28:37] itself. So no no sales tax or property

[28:40] tax or anything goes into it. Um in 2023

[28:43] we set the uh trash rate at $20.50 per

[28:47] month for residents. And at that time

[28:49] our um contract was an increase of 2%

[28:53] every year. So with our new contract,

[28:55] they've increased that to 5% increase

[28:57] every year. So it basically caught up to

[28:59] itself. The new rate that we are charged

[29:02] from waste management is now 21.28. So

[29:05] we are in a deficit of 78 cents per

[29:07] customer. Um this also includes the

[29:10] spring cleanup fee of $17,000 plus um

[29:13] around $3,000 for insurance every year.

[29:16] So, as we discussed at the work setting,

[29:18] um there's a draft ordinance that shows

[29:21] um the increase of trash to $24

[29:25] beginning with the September 30th bill.

[29:27] And then in 2028,

[29:30] uh begin increasing that 5% every year

[29:32] until the end of the waste management

[29:33] contract in 2030. So, that should keep

[29:36] us ahead on our um our rates without

[29:39] just jumping it to the the full amount

[29:42] at the end. So increase in this

[29:44] September, no increase in 27.

[29:46] >> In 27, correct?

[29:48] >> And then 5% every year after that until

[29:50] the end of the contract, correct?

[29:52] >> Because that's what they're charging us.

[29:54] >> Yeah.

[29:54] >> Yes.

[29:58] » Thanks for all your different scenarios

[30:00] on this. I know that was probably a lot

[30:01] of work.

[30:05] » Anybody have any questions on this? We

[30:06] talked about this one for quite a while,

[30:08] >> right? You know, this is probably at

[30:11] least on my end of it, it did

[30:13] frustrating and not not knock not not

[30:16] what you did, but you know, when I

[30:18] started this career in the public works

[30:20] side of it, I had three different trash

[30:23] companies that I could deal with. And I

[30:25] had two and now I got one.

[30:29] >> And uh I found out real quick when you

[30:31] got one, you you you have one. And uh

[30:36] but u it's got to stand on its own. We just can't support it. Councils has

[30:42] uh directed staff staff's done a great

[30:44] job of making sure that that stands on

[30:46] its own here.

[30:48] So that's all I had. Mayor, anybody

[30:51] else?

[30:53] If not, is there a motion on this? Uh,

[30:56] I'll go ahead and u adopt ordinance 23,

[31:01] no, excuse me, 3255 to increase

[31:04] residential trash collection fee to 24

[31:06] per month beginning with September 30,

[31:08] 2026

[31:10] and providing 5% annually uh until 2030

[31:15] with the annual being I believe was it

[31:17] 28

[31:18] >> 28. So this stays for

[31:20] 16 months or something like that.

[31:22] >> Thank you. I second that motion for

[31:27] >> big hands. I

[31:32] » motion pass.

[31:35] >> Next you have the confirmation of the

[31:36] notice of it filing which is something

[31:39] we do annually and for yes the

[31:41] electronic municipal market access. This

[31:43] is our um

[31:47] audit. They put it out there on the bond

[31:48] market basically just to be transparent.

[31:51] So obviously we're not trying to hide

[31:53] anything. Um we the city of Ba does it,

[31:55] the city of Leisburg does it and then we

[31:57] do it jointly for the PUA. Okay. So

[32:00] yeah, that has been done and it just

[32:01] needs to be acknowledged.

[32:04] >> We have a motion on this one.

[32:10] I move to acknowledge that in compliance

[32:13] with the continuing disclosure policy

[32:15] for the city of Piola and the city clerk

[32:18] did provide to the governing body

[32:20] written confirmation that the 2025 audit

[32:22] report and the 2025 operating data for

[32:25] the city of Pol were were electronically

[32:30] filed on the electric municipal market

[32:33] access

[32:34] system on September 4th, 2026.

[32:38] >> I'll second that.

[32:41] McMahon,

[32:42] >> a quick question. This is like uh really

[32:44] uh our bond owners, our bond people look

[32:47] at this, right? I mean, this is the

[32:49] cornerstone of our bond.

[32:50] >> Yeah.

[32:51] >> Some

[32:54] brown.

[32:54] >> Hi.

[32:56] >> All right.

[32:58] Next, we have staff reports. Chief, you

[33:01] have anything?

[33:03] Um, so you all saw that arrived.

[33:07] We're got about getting radios installed

[33:10] in it. It should be okay at come back

[33:14] today. So, um, engine 3, they're going

[33:17] to pick it up tomorrow. Public works

[33:21] and we've we received the check.

[33:24] >> Got the check and the title's on its way

[33:25] back to them. So,

[33:27] >> and did another firehouse taken or use

[33:31] it old engine?

[33:33] >> Uh, my uh

[33:36] resale company purch

[33:39] >> and then uh one of our firefighters is

[33:42] going off next week to get his

[33:44] certification training. So, Mitch will

[33:47] be gone for a couple weeks.

[33:50] >> Certification engineer firefighter fire

[33:54] one and two. Congratulations.

[33:58] Well, two weeks.

[34:00] >> Is that an introduction? Yeah. Also, is

[34:02] that where the police academy is too?

[34:04] That's what I thought.

[34:05] >> Very cool.

[34:07] >> That's all I have. Thank you.

[34:08] >> Okay. Chief Corbin.

[34:10] >> Uh, we've been very busy with all this

[34:12] heat and everything. We've had four

[34:14] disturbances just this afternoon, today.

[34:16] So, we are getting

[34:18] >> Yeah. So,

[34:21] he can break anytime.

[34:23] >> Yeah. about tomorrow

[34:24] >> if it's really hot or really cold.

[34:26] Right. You see issues either way.

[34:28] >> Yeah.

[34:29] >> Well, thanks for all you guys are doing.

[34:32] >> All right, Mitch.

[34:34] >> Uh we are up to,430

[34:37] permits,

[34:40] they're still flooding in, but I'm sure

[34:43] they will even more so as it cools down,

[34:47] slowed down a little bit as as it's

[34:49] gotten hotter. But, uh,

[34:52] we're we're getting to where we should

[34:54] be

[34:57] pretty well through all the houses in

[34:58] town for roofs. Um, we have planning

[35:02] commission next week. We have a public

[35:04] hearing for 404 South Silver

[35:08] um for a conditional use permit and a

[35:11] public hearing for 812 South Silver for

[35:14] a conditional use permit.

[35:18] I got and I'll be out for the next

[35:19] couple weeks after next week.

[35:22] >> Okay,

[35:23] Brandy. Um, I know I've been spamming

[35:26] your inbox reminders these last couple

[35:28] weeks. I apologize for that. But just

[35:29] one more reminder at Astra on Friday

[35:31] from 11 to 1. They're they've been

[35:34] spamming my inbox, too. So, I'm sharing

[35:37] a lot. So, they're excited.

[35:41] » Nothing. Okay. Jar, do you have

[35:44] anything? Um,

[35:47] fellow council members and mayor, you

[35:49] will be receiving an email from me in

[35:51] the next day or so and the email will be

[35:53] uh the performance evaluation for our

[35:56] city manager. Uh my expectation is is

[35:59] that you guys have that build out and

[36:02] that just return it at our next work

[36:04] session and have that over to me and

[36:08] then uh as Shannon I will probably look

[36:10] for a executive session in the following

[36:14] one that we had over there and uh are in

[36:18] Michigan I want the Presbyterian church

[36:20] are they supposed to bid that out? Uh I

[36:23] believe there's something going on where

[36:24] they're supposed to bid it out with a

[36:25] grant this month. Is that for one tennis

[36:28] boria

[36:30] church?

[36:30] >> Um, yes. I think it's by the end of the

[36:32] year that they have a bid out.

[36:34] >> The bids are due. I think I put in the

[36:36] Friday update September 16.

[36:40] Yeah. There you go. It's all I had. Mor

[36:45] nothing. Josh,

[36:47] >> just wanted to thank you for everything

[36:50] you did on Sunday night

[36:53] >> and the response. I'm just uh so glad

[36:57] that you guys do all this training and

[36:59] that it's good training and that uh

[37:01] you're able to resolve situations like

[37:03] that peacefully and keep people safe.

[37:06] So, thank you for that.

[37:11] » Uh nothing nothing. All right. I don't

[37:15] have anything tonight either other than

[37:16] thank you again for all the hard work

[37:17] with our biggest biggest thing of year.

[37:21] So, thank you for that.

[37:23] Okay. Is there a motion to adjourn?

[37:26] >> Make a motion to adjourn. I'll second

[37:28] that.

[37:30] >> I

[37:37] M

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