[0:02] Best. High, everyone will stand. The pledge of allegiance.

[0:13] United States of America and the Israeli public for a religious stance, one nation under our

[0:20] individual Party.

[0:28] Thank you. Welcome, everybody.

[0:34] Okay, any conflict of interest.

[0:43] Okay. Doctday agenda of August 12, 2026 for a regular

[0:48] town meeting. I'll make a motion we adopt the agenda of this 12th, 20th, 26th. I'll second. I'll third. I approve

[0:58] minutes of July 8th, 20th, 26th, regular meeting by motion. I'll motion we approve the minutes of

[1:05] July 8th, 20th, 26th, regular meeting. Second. I'll third. I heard your report.

[1:14] We're water projects officially underway.

[1:20] We've got, I think day two, building the road up to the,

[1:26] where they've got to do the geotech for the tank site.

[1:30] So there'll be two, 12 by 30 pads constructed.

[1:33] The punching road and that easement that we have to be able

[1:36] to get that rig up there to test and go or see whether we can put

[1:41] the tank up higher or lower.

[1:44] I guess I guess above or below the fault line. I went up there to Van Talk to Jake who's one of the I think Kelly's son that owns the construction company and they were

[1:56] Most of the way up there already. So they're making a good progress. I went and walked it with him. Make sure everything was clear

[2:03] They've got pipe

[2:05] Stacked in the yard. They got something there today. I think they're bringing connexes. They're gonna put them up by the

[2:10] the coordinator building. They'll keep those locked and stuff.

[2:16] And then they called in and had blue

[2:18] stakes start marking utilities from center street, main street in the southwest quadrant of town.

[2:26] So everything essentially in the town's right of way, especially starting on the southwest quadrant,

[2:32] it's got to be moved, got to be cleaned up. And then just talking with these guys, we've got to

[2:38] figure out something, some kind of ordinance or something, to help future keep our right

[2:45] of ways cleaned up and cleared. And so we'll probably look and talk about that in the near

[2:50] future just to be able to enforce that a little bit better and keep, keep it from getting

[2:56] too junky.

[3:00] Besides that, I mean, there's actually lots of little things going on. We're trying

[3:05] to figure out just meters and all sorts of little things with the company, but they've

[3:12] been awesome so far, very cooperative, and it sounds like starting Monday there will

[3:20] be a lot of big machines in town, so be patient with that, and that's for the most part of

[3:29] Is there anything else I've talked to you about this week?

[3:32] Can we have it?

[3:34] Yeah, I think that's for the most part.

[3:37] There might be something that comes up later,

[3:38] but I think most of it's covered on here.

[3:41] Most of it, they'll have covered as well.

[3:44] So as far as for me, that's the bulk of it.

[3:50] Mike?

[3:51] Yeah.

[3:54] So I'll jump around just a little bit.

[3:56] So we did get our water samples done and turned in after reports back on that. Did you get those gene? Okay, so that's done again.

[4:07] The water project, what we decided on the trees, I talked to Gary. He met Dan up here for the DWR. He was talking about burning them.

[4:18] He said he didn't want to burn them, so we'll have to find something else to do with them.

[4:21] You know, can we take them out to the city lot and burn them on this all that's what I'm thinking if we just haul them out there

[4:28] That's that was kind of our worst case scenario. I just do that because they already stuff out there. We need a burn anyway

[4:33] Okay, so the other the other thing was is he Gary did mention if we mercy rated the trees and just put them in washes and stuff

[4:41] You would be okay with that, but we're gonna have a way to

[4:45] To grind them up basically, right to do that other than that haul them out there and burn them

[4:54] Shulsons, we've got a little issue with our contractor in Shulsons for some reason.

[4:58] They don't speak.

[5:00] So we're trying to work through that.

[5:05] What else?

[5:10] Yeah, that's between the shoulders and height, isn't it?

[5:12] Right.

[5:12] The height and the meters.

[5:16] What are we going to do if people don't have their stuff, we're going to have to go time?

[5:21] Are we going to have a tow company on retainer?

[5:24] Yep.

[5:24] Probably have to do.

[5:25] at the owner's expense. Yep, yep. They turn notified on their bill and

[5:30] base for months. months. I mean it's the problem is the contractors have this

[5:36] window like right they can't be slowed down. So we need to get that lined up and

[5:41] have somebody ready to go or is that something that we just need to do we

[5:46] have a little bit out the bed here we can hire we could have anybody any company

[5:51] retainer.

[5:53] I had lads told my truck that it blew its motor and they were cheap and awesome

[5:59] and fast. Thank you. Where are you going all of a sudden?

[6:04] Down there in the town of New York to pay to get it back. That's the cost of not moving

[6:10] your stuff.

[6:11] And then we need to set another thing in there so that they know that this is the best

[6:19] We can't slow these guys down. They're here to do work and they have to be done in

[6:25] 240 days at the very very most. So they're going to bust but to get it done.

[6:32] So if we slow them down today they'll take an extra week at the end and they won't want to pay the fees for it.

[6:40] So they'll do anything they can, doesn't that enough?

[6:44] Yeah.

[6:45] OK.

[6:46] I think that was the only thing ahead of us.

[6:49] And it's primarily on the north side of the roads.

[6:54] But still they're going to have pipe.

[6:56] They're going to have, it's both sides need to be cleaned.

[6:58] Both sides just need to be cleaned.

[6:59] Yeah.

[7:03] OK.

[7:03] That's it for your wife?

[7:05] Yeah.

[7:06] Travis.

[7:09] So to deal with the power, we're pretty much

[7:11] done with the easement so most I think we just got to get them signed and piled. So Mark's

[7:17] ready to put that power line up. I think everything's finally good to go. They did talk

[7:22] to that last one acre piece that we needed. Oh yeah. And they're willing to do it. Yeah.

[7:29] Okay. So everything's moving. The palm might ears. I think so. On that.

[7:38] With on this agreement

[7:40] where it says, Grant Church will not construct or place any building, retaining wall shed, permanent fence gate,

[7:49] septic facility, or other structure. On the gate part, we're going to try to, we're going to change the words to either inaccessible gate or locked or something like that,

[7:59] because then it makes sense. It's an easement. It's still that person's property. It's just as long as we can access that. Is that with that letter?

[8:08] Yeah, absolutely. And I think you know what it's going to look like for them to, what is going to be done on my property to get there?

[8:16] Because right now, you know what it is, it's just sagebrush and up and down the rocks.

[8:20] It's not going to be much more than when we come in from Le Mans, it'll be a two track that gets mostly just pushed down by Mark's truck.

[8:27] Maybe push some sagebrush out of the way thing on when I'm popping tires. But for the most part, it'll be very minimal risk.

[8:34] Okay, we talked about making a load up through there, the re-foot wide.

[8:40] If we do that, we can't have gates on it.

[8:44] Right, that's the-

[8:45] Well, if you do that, I'm using it to the city because I-

[8:47] That should be.

[8:49] I don't mean no gates then, but for this, depending if it doesn't look like the road just continues

[8:55] straight up, it still looks like not a place to go.

[8:58] I won't want to put any-

[8:59] So it probably looked like a four-wheeled trial on it.

[9:01] So right now we were trying to get a utility easement as all that we were doing as a

[9:05] now.

[9:10] But the utility will be there, but we'll have a 15 foot access on her side. So we'll have

[9:15] 30 feet of a utility easement for anything we need. 16, 5, 6, 5, 6, 3 feet or something like that.

[9:24] But if she gets 15 in Le Mans, willing to do 15 for a road, the city would take over that if

[9:30] they're willing. We haven't talked to them on about a row that I don't know what's

[9:33] in the day. He's going to do 15 feet. That's where you're, that's where you're, isn't,

[9:38] isn't easement or as a row.

[9:41] Oh, yeah, 15 feet. She was given one at 16 point eight.

[9:48] Hey, 16.5, 16.5 or 16, something like 16.5.

[9:53] Yeah, it's 33, which would be total.

[9:56] So if you wind up the road, if you're only doing the power line issues will up the marks and the one that you're pushing, you appreciate it.

[10:05] Yeah. So most like that, nothing will be clear. It's not going to look like a road just as long as markets is equipment in there and can put the poles in there.

[10:12] And I don't want you to get, but I would like you to say, I'd like you to say that I could, if, you know, four-gillers start going up there.

[10:21] Yeah, but at some point if that we do a fire thing then that's a whole new issue. Yeah, so if you're gonna do a fire thing

[10:27] It's gonna be a result by January because that's where we have put into funding for

[10:32] To put in a roll up to the end of the mall

[10:38] We're ready to talk

[10:40] So they just do do we want to do it?

[10:43] We'll put an arrow in it.

[10:45] I think we just, we'll finish out.

[10:46] For now, I think we just run with the utility, but maybe revisit the road.

[10:50] Because it'd be nice to have a road, but we got to get that power up.

[10:52] Yeah, we just need to finish this and get the poles up, get the stuff up.

[10:55] And then, like I said, with Sherry and the mom, the pole will be open to talk.

[11:00] So it sounds like we can do that.

[11:01] It'd be nice to have a road through there, but, you know, to where we can access it.

[11:06] Then we run an important issue that that's a private road all the way up there.

[11:10] And people are not going to be easy.

[11:14] It's also been grandfathered in and it's been accessible for way too long to be.

[11:22] You can't stop trying.

[11:23] You could come in from the other side, right?

[11:25] Like from the Palomites.

[11:26] That's full of intentions of dividing that lot up one day, putting three walks on.

[11:31] I know you want to sell the top half.

[11:35] Well, I want that option right now.

[11:37] But if you do that, it's got to be a road and it's got to be easy.

[11:42] But you said it should go into the city, not to do.

[11:45] If it goes to a fire, it would go under an orange thing.

[11:49] It would be accessible for younger people to ever do it.

[11:52] Or it would not.

[11:53] Because it would be designated for fire.

[11:57] So, I mean, you got the choice.

[12:01] Let's do that.

[12:03] Let's just plan on the electrical easement now and let's talk the road here.

[12:07] And let's make it in the next year. Let's try to push that through. It would be nice, but get it better planned out

[12:13] Okay

[12:15] And then Royce is going to talk a little bit about the will we code some things have changed

[12:20] We've appealed the map because it's going to take in more of Periduna

[12:24] Which is going to cost everybody more money that falls within the map. So this ain't a very good map

[12:28] But the plotter is the court of broke again. Anyway, that's what this

[12:33] They did an aerial thing about once, and they came back and they said, you know, this

[12:40] isn't correct.

[12:41] So the state of Utah came in and filled it in, state lands.

[12:45] But this whole area will be under that new building of the woolly house, bill 48.

[12:52] You're going to be stuck with all that.

[12:54] I went in and done a proposal to limit to our woolly code and take out this area.

[13:02] and these people here and only leave from 300 up under that thing, but we have less than

[13:09] a 10% chance of them doing it. It's a funding at the State of Utah and I've never ever seen

[13:17] the State of Utah reverse a money call for them. And it just really sucks what we're going

[13:26] to do. You know, you're going to be well half the people in this room will be affected

[13:32] They say the first year it will be $150, but they could go way high, we're talking $100

[13:40] in the future of what it's going to cost.

[13:43] Everyone that does go to the city, that does go to the fire department, goes to the same U-toss

[13:48] slush one for fire.

[13:50] So, but anyway, that's what it is, and this is what I proposed to them.

[13:58] We got a crazy clear here.

[14:01] Matt?

[14:02] Yeah.

[14:03] Is there Roy Sight?

[14:05] I can't remember what his name is.

[14:07] The weather is going to be one of the state fire guys.

[14:09] How do you do it?

[14:09] I'm going to take a sudden knee-or-tramis.

[14:11] I don't know if it's going to be my fire.

[14:12] I don't know if it's going to be my fire.

[14:13] I don't know if it's going to be my fire.

[14:14] I don't know if it's going to be my fire.

[14:14] Because I said so nice.

[14:15] I said you was trying to replace the air.

[14:17] You know, is there the possibility of like working with the DWR or something like that

[14:21] to do a vegetation treatment across the Spokaneals?

[14:24] You don't have to ask that exactly that, in that meeting, we had tiny commissioner of state lands, you know, across a block road.

[14:33] I want to go on the south side of your fence and put a doger rolled through theirs until that starts on fire.

[14:42] The Olympic came here to get an easement or a ride away to put any kind of thing into the sorts on fire.

[14:50] I'm going to have a lot of roads up through there, but we ask them about, you know, what

[14:57] Well, there's one thing built this out in the first year.

[15:00] And we'll come in and work with Jesse saying, you know, if you remove 50% you're free to go from $200 a year, down to $150 a year. They will have where you can come in and adjust it. They're paying on, you know, how much vegetation you have around. If you look at that, I think 80% of that, they have this zone, the actual zone where they plan so far ahead of where a fire would be.

[15:29] were all too wide in this sort of a body.

[15:32] I was going to say that, you know,

[15:34] up there on top of Black Rock,

[15:36] they did that chaining, you know,

[15:37] like I said.

[15:38] He's dressed in a set of these

[15:39] and the BLM's been telling us

[15:41] that they were going to go back

[15:41] through there and do some more treatment

[15:44] and get bunched in suckers and stuff

[15:46] that are coming in.

[15:46] They needed to do that.

[15:47] Well, they did some loppin' scatters

[15:49] about 15 years ago, too, up and there.

[15:51] But it's all just dedicated hunter stuff

[15:53] when they do those.

[15:54] This was just like two years ago.

[15:57] and they were talking to us again about doing another treatment out there and so I guess that's why I'm asking part of this question

[16:05] is because I would get some of the stuff done because it changed to my blue show.

[16:10] It would listen to me the other day, I just think they've made up for mine and it's a money in my day.

[16:18] They just say my natural graph for money were unpacked as well, I'm afraid that it is.

[16:24] But, you know what, the county has, or partnered with the big estimator, the grines.

[16:30] We have resources to come in and help people, reduce the mitigation around their home.

[16:38] We did.

[16:39] It's just people who are in this order, you should fill out what you do now, or you just

[16:44] don't want the police to want the orange stuff.

[16:47] That's up to the end of that, Terry.

[16:49] We will help to work with anyone we've caused to be candid to reduce the rate.

[16:54] What's it going to do for those of us in the insolent that don't have any good faith?

[16:58] And your one, and Todd's one, and Travis's can be one, I'm in it, and you know, there's

[17:05] not a thing I can do to some medication around my body.

[17:08] Some really vary the rate and the impact, the same for everybody.

[17:12] Yep.

[17:13] Is the orange part of it really sort of just the red?

[17:16] Okay, the orange is not in, is not part of that, you know, that they won't be taxed.

[17:26] It's just the red and then where it's the dark, the weird color is what I've requested to give us an example to know.

[17:34] Because look at the distance from here, clear to that sender string. I just don't see why I asked on that board.

[17:41] Yeah, but this is what I'm asked to change to square it up. This is where our week

[17:48] Toad is for the city for building. I'm asking the state to follow

[18:00] But this is

[18:03] What we get a final grab to this we will post it here at the town hall, you know, this is just

[18:10] This is from when I done on when I went in and challenged it, but the big one wants to see it, you know, you're more welcome to

[18:19] Those of the following on that you came up with, really serious

[18:22] This is what I should both there see this right here. I asked you the model

[18:27] What we call that the city has for building

[18:32] I didn't ask for anything weird or strange because they definitely wouldn't have it

[18:37] But I asked Martin Center Street over 300,000 to stay out of it.

[18:45] I told him God ordnance has already passed.

[18:49] I mean, we're requiring that we eat cold construction in those areas.

[18:56] But I don't know.

[18:57] Can I just put that in the back?

[19:00] Yeah, the January.

[19:01] You won't see it this tax season.

[19:04] But if you're not, you'll see it on your taxes.

[19:11] So do those ratings affect insurance companies?

[19:14] Do they look at that when they just buy that?

[19:15] Insurance companies are one doing this.

[19:18] The insurance companies are coming in.

[19:20] I don't know if any of you have been threatened.

[19:23] They're coming in and canceling homeowners insurance.

[19:26] Carlos, old Carlos and Brian, they're just

[19:30] locked into your unsurrupal anymore going to show you.

[19:33] You know, they're doing it right now.

[19:37] This is most of this was put on by the national insurance

[19:42] association group.

[19:43] There were the ones that was in all the town hall meetings.

[19:47] They had town hall meetings on all of this glass three years.

[19:51] But there were the ones that pushed this stuff.

[19:54] Now, is it going to change your race or probably will?

[19:58] But they shouldn't, they shouldn't just cancel people like they have been doing right now.

[20:05] They're canceling probably 150 people up on the temple.

[20:10] He opened them up, you know, sounded there.

[20:15] A big comma within two blocks of Brian's head fire station.

[20:19] They cancel their insurance a few months ago.

[20:23] You know, these big fires, it was, you know, it was tough, people scared to death,

[20:33] I'm sure it's tough, but you won't like that.

[20:35] Well, they're driving it.

[20:36] Well, and I think after this year, three of our top six biggest fires in history,

[20:42] isn't going to make it a better.

[20:43] This isn't helping us.

[20:45] This year is really, you know, this is driving home with point on my brain.

[20:49] Yeah, I've got my business year in Brighton this year because a lot of it's homeowners

[20:56] They're gonna get cancelled if we don't clear the festival space

[21:01] They're gonna make you know I'm really sad

[21:04] And as you may have seen it on your things

[21:07] If you weren't orange

[21:09] You'd better do it and there are a lot of all folks

[21:15] Makes sense. It does makes sense

[21:17] But you know where the legislation

[21:21] It's really sad if you pull up this thing and see where the state Utah's not a weird southern Utah's being overwhelmed and your big city's populated city's room.

[21:36] It's really hot right but we're going to.

[21:40] Thank you.

[21:42] That's it.

[21:44] Okay.

[21:45] Mark?

[21:48] Well, there's been a request for funds for the attorney for a line-lot adjustment.

[21:56] I personally don't see a reason for it.

[21:58] The line-lot adjustment wouldn't put anything.

[22:01] There are already two non-compliant locks.

[22:03] Are you doing this fixing the septic tank so that it's where it belongs?

[22:07] And it's between two family members.

[22:09] According to Kerry, all they have to do is get a survey.

[22:11] They take the stuff in there and have it recorded.

[22:17] So we don't need to in my opinion to be involved?

[22:22] No, it's not going to do with us.

[22:24] No.

[22:25] OK.

[22:27] The law line of justice now says that the adoption

[22:32] inside the vision ordinances is all done by the planning

[22:36] commission.

[22:45] And so, and gave it to the planning commission to shorten the time frame for developers to

[22:51] build lots more houses, and that's why they've got shifted subdivisions of simple lots

[22:58] subdivisions, and our lot line adjustments are all under the new subdivision ordinance,

[23:04] which is done by the planning commission.

[23:09] So the planning commission has their question is,

[23:12] as we read the ordinances,

[23:14] it says in the lot line adjustment,

[23:18] we can make those line adjustments

[23:20] as long as they comply with the current zoning ordinance.

[23:25] So the question becomes,

[23:29] already making two non-performing lots more non-performing.

[23:33] And so we went to White County Roger Carter for his advice and you guys got a copy of

[23:45] that racist it is not clear if you guys are comfortable you can ask the attorney and

[23:53] as we prepare all the documents but only get him an hour to look at and say do it or

[23:58] don't do it. Otherwise, it goes through. Why would you want somebody to set it up to me?

[24:10] I don't know, who would, when anybody in here be against that, somebody who is moving their

[24:14] lot line. I guess that's not why it's different. It's not a subject vision, it's just moving the lot line.

[24:21] So both of the lots are not non-conforming, right? Just the one.

[24:30] They were on the back.

[24:32] It showed on the county that they were 64.64.

[24:36] That's wrong.

[24:37] That's not right.

[24:39] And that's a good idea.

[24:40] Because the ones one point what?

[24:47] No.

[24:47] They said it was .9.

[24:50] So as you said, they just looked up.

[24:53] That's point nine.

[24:55] No, I can't remember what they are.

[24:57] That's what they are.

[24:58] That's what they are.

[25:00] That's what they are.

[25:00] That's why people pay an attorney for somebody's personal problem.

[25:04] Yeah.

[25:04] I think it should be.

[25:06] Yeah, so the funny commission is saying it's not what's happening.

[25:10] It's just trying to follow the ordinance and have clarification there.

[25:15] It has nothing, because what they're doing is okay.

[25:20] But we just want to make sure that

[25:21] When we make this decision that we're doing it legally, that's the clarification part.

[25:27] It has nothing to do with what's happening.

[25:31] So now comes down to, if the town board says flying commission go ahead and do it, then

[25:40] we need the flying commission needs to be held harmless because down the road, I mean we

[25:46] We had requests in the past for people who wanted to do a lot of line adjustments and making

[25:51] two conforming locks and one non-conforming lock into one conforming lock and two non-conforming

[25:58] locks.

[25:59] So those things have not passed.

[26:02] So if that's your direction that we go ahead and allow that and give approval for that,

[26:10] This fun mission has no problem with that part.

[26:13] We just have a problem with the legal.

[26:16] But didn't you just say maybe it's okay?

[26:18] It was okay.

[26:19] Like what they're gonna do is okay.

[26:21] Like what would be the legal?

[26:22] He's gonna give and see the town for just,

[26:24] somebody else and it doesn't get there just done.

[26:27] But like, but we have done it before,

[26:29] like how do we do that?

[26:29] Yeah, you get the else.

[26:31] But there's this like that, wasn't it?

[26:32] Did you get the jobs when you guys had the picture job?

[26:36] So you're kind of the same name.

[26:37] I was saying, I was saying so.

[26:39] So, when that's when the town board had jurisdiction, so basically what we're saying is there had been other requests that had been turned down because they became non-conforming laws.

[26:52] But these were already non-conforming. So, you're not really doing anything except looking for such a terrible law.

[26:59] So what we're saying is we just want to make sure that if we've made that decision to go ahead and allow that,

[27:10] that the county commission has held enormous, because there are people who have passed, but didn't get it that way.

[27:16] Well, I think the healthy promote is actually up on this.

[27:18] Yeah.

[27:19] Because they don't approve of having a subject to someone else's property.

[27:21] Well, they're David by the letter, and I don't see how anybody's getting kind of from the town.

[27:25] So it's, yeah, it's your family's property, right?

[27:30] So what are your thoughts?

[27:33] I don't see an issue with it.

[27:35] Like you say, I don't, the legalality stuff,

[27:37] I don't know, but I personally feel like it's okay.

[27:41] We've done it before.

[27:42] Yeah, and we have, so we haven't had it in the past.

[27:46] Okay.

[27:46] Well, they're just different.

[27:48] There's going to be just different examples

[27:49] and there's going to be different.

[27:51] Yeah, it's okay.

[27:51] So if that's the correction for the cam board, then we find mission will just be to be held

[27:59] harmless on that decision.

[28:02] Okay.

[28:03] Yep.

[28:04] I'm fine with that.

[28:06] Yeah.

[28:07] Okay.

[28:07] Yep.

[28:08] I'm good with that.

[28:08] Do I have anything on that?

[28:12] No, I just, you know, I just want to make sure what we're doing is right before, you know,

[28:18] So Dave or I spend any money on anything that this is going to be a possibility, and we're just doing it correctly, you know.

[28:25] Just trying to kind of fix something that happened in the light 70s or early 80s, is what we're trying to do.

[28:31] Are your thoughts going to be equal?

[28:32] No.

[28:33] No.

[28:33] No, they won't.

[28:35] What's that?

[28:35] What are they going to?

[28:37] That to be determined still because we don't have a survey or anything.

[28:41] Because I don't even tell you what.

[28:44] Well, it seems like it was like 60 feet or something like that, so it's like 65 foot adjustment is what Dave said, but I don't know because his recorders office was showing our lot of 0.6 acres and Dave's was like 1.3 or something, but that wasn't going to be random.

[29:01] That's not an idea, because Ron and I is both 6.5, right?

[29:07] So, even if you went right to half of the block, it'd be 0.65 feet to me.

[29:12] So, if you don't go that far, obviously yours could be 0.75, 0.8, whatever.

[29:19] Yeah, that's indeed right.

[29:22] So, I mean, it's like you're taking one lot that's close to conforming, but non-conforming.

[29:27] And then you're taking one that's probably way out.

[29:28] Way out.

[29:29] And we're going to get closer and more out.

[29:32] But Dave's septic tank is on that lot.

[29:37] Alright, never got recorded, but you can't even put the set.

[29:41] Like if they were to throw a fit and you had to move septic, he doesn't have enough room then to even put each line.

[29:47] So then his house wouldn't even be able to be there and it would be because he would have no septic.

[29:52] Great, so let's do it that makes

[30:01] I'm going to just destroy a house because you can't have a separate tank. There's already been there for years. It's already been there for years and years and habits on the separate tank. Right. And when we're aware of some family bills, it should be something that should have been done back in the early 80s, like that. Like said, we run on this and stuff, that things could have been done. They just don't get done. And then you go. So the next one is the requirement of motion. Oh.

[30:29] Oh sure does say that okay so I guess deny request for funds to be extended expended for

[30:38] attorney for lot line adjustment. I'll second. Oh there. Okay so now the request to vacate

[30:49] the road for Trevor and Lauren Gage.

[30:55] So I think the concern with that

[31:00] is how many times we're going to do it for people for nothing and the opposite side of

[31:06] the road where Nancy's is is in the same exact boat.

[31:12] That one's coming too.

[31:15] That one's coming too and I think when we get it for litus we said those two streets because

[31:23] This is North and this is property in our North and in the North and in the property

[31:29] where the town limits were until 1991.

[31:33] Then in 1991, they all annexed that and then they got the subdivision approved in 1992

[31:40] and they're stretching that narrower so that each of those lots would be one acre.

[31:47] What does our roadmaster plan show? 66 feet? Yeah.

[31:55] Is that what that shows?

[31:57] I mean, the only thing that was different with loops, if I remember right, was all of the 32 feet was taken out of his lot only.

[32:06] There was no loss. There was none taken out of the other, which at that point I didn't feel like was fair as a town that we take 32 feet of one person's property and none of the others.

[32:16] Where is this one it's out of both both properties, and so it's the same

[32:21] That's the part that I have the difference with we're not taking we're giving I know but in my at the time that it was done

[32:28] They took all of that of the two feet all out of his and none out of yeah, oh it was across the street

[32:35] Yeah, and that was when I was looking at it at that time

[32:37] That's the part that didn't make any sense. This was at least

[32:41] 50-50 that was both

[32:42] both.

[32:45] The same on each side of the street, each of all had the same, taking out of that

[32:50] one out of going through the process. We've gone through to get our water lying easements

[32:56] and rideaways. That's taken us eight years to get to the point where we can finally start

[33:02] digging. If we give up land, what's it going to take to get that back? Not if, but when

[33:07] we have to put a sewer system in or something else is it going to take us eight years to get

[33:14] these right-winged back. What I guess in that aspect, how much do we need? Because right up here,

[33:21] where it shows 33, 33, I mean there's your 66 to where I don't know that's I live on one of the

[33:29] narrow streets in town and it sucks. There's no doubt about it when you start narrowing up the streets,

[33:36] and it sucks.

[33:38] Now, you guys have to say similar,

[33:43] got into what the easements were the utilities,

[33:47] but you guys, the town board at that time

[33:50] felt like it would be appropriate

[33:55] only on those two streets in town

[33:57] just because of where that subdivision

[33:58] behind is narrow.

[34:00] So how many feet would yours have to come out?

[34:02] So then, you know, this is just 15.8.

[34:05] 15.8?

[34:05] It's 15.8 or whatever it is.

[34:10] That's so good.

[34:13] I guess that would be 15.8.

[34:15] You would have to move but, anyway, we move on anyway.

[34:18] Both neighbors move.

[34:22] So-

[34:22] Would you have easements?

[34:24] I mean ask a question, would you be vacating that parcel of the road?

[34:29] Would you have easements in there?

[34:33] Because there is a water line that-

[34:34] There's a gas line that runs on your property on that side.

[34:39] So you can't build on it.

[34:40] No, it's not buildable.

[34:43] But when they say they want to do something with it, what is that?

[34:46] Well, I think their plan is down the road to maybe have a little farm stand.

[34:52] So that area would be parking.

[34:58] Because like right now you have water on one side and gas on the other.

[35:00] That's running right through that section.

[35:03] Walks of water's here.

[35:04] Yes, over here.

[35:08] So, well, and if we go to get, say the town needs 15 foot roadway from anywhere else, and

[35:16] somebody doesn't, I mean, we have to give up either power hookups, water hookups, we

[35:22] have to pay what the lands worth to get that.

[35:26] What does the town get out of us giving them a 15?

[35:31] Do we require they pay us the land value for that?

[35:35] I don't know what's right and what's not.

[35:37] I don't know how this all works.

[35:39] But in two days, you can't require them to pay all the cost

[35:43] of the survey and all the documents and all that stuff.

[35:45] Right.

[35:46] Which we would have to do as a town.

[35:47] If we were going to condemn or whatever this land plus

[35:51] we would have to give them whatever the lands were.

[35:56] Right?

[35:56] I just don't like that there's utilities on it.

[35:58] Well, yeah.

[35:59] They're already on it on both sides.

[36:07] So I said I'm going to say it leave it as it is, but there's no benefit to move it for me when there's utilities laying on both sides of that road, so

[36:18] that's where I stand. I have easement on it anyway. And then we're going to have to get easements toward to it anyway, so I say no.

[36:25] So if it's going to be used for far stand potential parking, I mean, is there any trouble with them doing that as it is now?

[36:34] You can park on a net.

[36:36] Well, unless there's any additional use permits.

[36:40] We're requiring off-street parking.

[36:41] Yeah, if that's off-street parking.

[36:44] No, we'll deal with that when they decide to do it.

[36:46] But as of now, that's their problem, not mine.

[36:49] Well, this is why we have one acre lots.

[36:51] So people can park their stuff on their lots.

[36:53] It's like there gives people plenty of stuff there's that's how the front door is all right

[37:05] Yeah, where it has the power and stuff on both the utilities on both sides and where it's the same for both

[37:12] People both sets and they both have utilities

[37:14] I will make a motion that we deny the request to vacate the road for Trevor and Lauren

[37:23] Gage.

[37:24] I'll second.

[37:25] All in favor?

[37:26] All right.

[37:27] All right.

[37:30] Okay.

[37:31] Todd?

[37:32] Anything else, Marjorie?

[37:33] No.

[37:34] Okay, yes.

[37:35] So for me, I don't have anything really, the USDA that we got to grant through for the

[37:41] codeverts in the flood, they, I don't even remember if I talked about this last month, I

[37:46] just want to do a site check, so I think that's happening sometime this month, the last

[37:53] I heard you meant. The USDA is going to come down and do a site check, but we've been working

[37:57] on an application or all our paperwork that we got to do to put in for the US, for the

[38:03] the US stage requirement, we're working on all that stuff. And then we're still just waiting

[38:08] and I think CIP's in off-road for the other part of the road.

[38:12] That's to see how much we can get.

[38:13] Right.

[38:14] That's the part to see if we can get coverage for the whole town

[38:18] to redo the roads.

[38:20] We're shooting for the asphalt coverage, over and over at all.

[38:25] And if we don't get all that in the way

[38:28] that we want to get it, then we'll reduce it at a later time

[38:32] for just chipsit with it.

[38:35] So that's kind of what I got coming up in the next little bit

[38:37] on the roads. So okay, anything else? That's it? Pretty tall? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[38:47] Building, just those building permits up the rails. Yeah. Yeah. Open discussion.

[39:20] I was wondering why yours was that high.

[39:24] I was like, I wonder if it's for the firefighter.

[39:27] I see what I know to send today, I'm like, what's going on?

[39:30] Yeah, so yeah, we do.

[39:32] I guess it's just, we got to make sure we're notified.

[39:35] Like when Lindsey Graham died, they required every,

[39:38] we can apply it to that.

[39:39] So there's a website that I used to use the work.

[39:41] It'll send you an email every time there's

[39:43] new notification for half staff or whatever it may be.

[39:46] I can't remember what it is, I'll have to research it out,

[39:48] but it'll send you an email every time

[39:50] a new notification goes out.

[39:51] How do you get notified?

[39:52] Or do you just know like how to do the news?

[39:56] You're still old school.

[39:57] You're still old school, aren't you, aren't you?

[40:01] I was on our day when you were retired.

[40:02] I was on our time.

[40:04] Is that something we can look into, Jane?

[40:07] Yeah.

[40:07] Now let me know when you come.

[40:08] I'll look it up tomorrow or I can see that I can find it.

[40:11] Yeah.

[40:11] I've been on our percent plant on complex disasters.

[40:14] I don't watch some news.

[40:16] So, you know, I just want everybody else's.

[40:21] It's better than my brother's, it's all their front down.

[40:28] Thank you for volunteering, but if you see that, please call us, no, like, yeah, we

[40:39] Yes, it's going to be a no.

[40:41] That's how we did it.

[40:42] I'm curious.

[40:43] But we're sort of the town one of the new...

[40:45] Yeah, absolutely.

[40:47] That's a good one.

[40:49] Okay, anything else?

[40:52] I'd like to ask a question if you don't mind.

[40:54] Yeah, if you have a poll.

[40:56] Well, first of all, everybody knows we've been here about three...

[41:00] A couple of months more than three years now than everything on our lot.

[41:05] that we've tried to do and make it be an asset.

[41:08] Now, questions for this last three years have never been resolved

[41:15] and it's in records, because you know or Mike right next door

[41:20] to us, we've got that driveway that's locked up.

[41:23] And it is, obviously, these months.

[41:27] And you know, just curious to see when they are

[41:33] the new water lines. I'm not clear whether they're coming down that north side of that

[41:39] street. Yes. North side. North side. And then so how far would I need to cut that back?

[41:45] And then what's this done? Can it be replaced? It shouldn't be. I don't know what the distance

[41:50] like where they're going to like because there's the existing line goes down there now.

[41:55] And they're going to have to go one side or the other of it to keep that line going until

[41:59] they hook up. I don't know what side of that line they're going to go down. We'll depend on how far

[42:06] off of the street it is. Obviously they're going to stay in the towns right away. But it could be

[42:13] anywhere from our property line to the street. I don't know for sure. What about the other side of

[42:20] the south side of the street. I don't know any utilities there, but it likes time,

[42:25] wheel and town. Um, the way the engineer did it, I don't know if there's a reasoning or not.

[42:32] Um, I'll, are they going to remove most of the, is it going? No, no, it's going to be a

[42:38] little disarray.

[42:39] No, and now when there's in the air, I understand when we came in there with the

[42:44] It is the issue we have is it doesn't meet fire flow. It's only a six-inch line where they require an eight-inch line for fire flow

[42:55] So that's the reasoning on on up size and to eight-inch

[43:03] In looking at it, this is my my just observation view and I took some pictures today to see what this little

[43:17] That's not considering the major flash floods out of the canyons and various things like

[43:22] that.

[43:22] Obviously, a lot of water.

[43:25] And I was thinking even at that, if we start digging up, I think our one city ran

[43:32] into this on 200 south where these big washes get down there and they have to redo all of

[43:38] There are asphalt bases, you probably know.

[43:42] Yeah, and unfortunately, it's just part of it.

[43:46] Yeah.

[43:46] You know, you get the weather, you can't control it.

[43:49] Sometimes you just got to pull it out.

[43:50] You've got to redo it.

[43:51] You're not supposed to do that much.

[43:53] No, we're not surveying it.

[43:54] It looks like the south side of that speaks a little higher than it is on the north side.

[44:01] So water tends to create the myself and Mike until it gets down there.

[44:07] were the intersections and pushes the level wrong on the mayor's side.

[44:13] Well, that's what I diverted because it goes in between those two properties in

[44:17] between the mics and the clubs rental. It goes kind of through those blocks and

[44:22] it goes down between the far well and the clubs rental and so usually when it

[44:26] goes on my side is because I take Mike's gravel and I divert it to my side pushing

[44:30] across to keep it out of those homes. Yeah, and that's in the works as well to

[44:35] put a dip right in that area to possibly divert the water back over to that side so it stays

[44:43] out of those homes.

[44:45] That's part of the CIB funding that we're going to.

[44:48] We've got in that funding to look at doing some different dips.

[44:54] I think we put in 10 of them.

[44:55] I don't know how many wheels actually use, need, all of the above because it's really

[45:00] Early in the process, but it's going to be, it's something that we're looking into to see if there's a better way that we could use those to maybe divert water away from people's homes in, you know, in those rare, I mean, other than three years ago, but the rare times that we get enough water to, to do some damage. So we've got, we've got some of that kind of in mind moving forward with that funding, too. So.

[45:29] I'm kind of curious on what this entails when you're going to change these meters out

[45:35] at the water.

[45:36] I'm trying to do some improvements where my meter sets now and I'm holding off until

[45:40] I know exactly what you guys are doing.

[45:42] You get a dig all the way to the meter, pull everything out, the covert and everything out,

[45:47] and then put a whole new system right into all of this.

[45:49] So they're putting in new meter centers.

[45:51] So, yes, that barrel will have to come out and they'll put a new meter setter, a new meter in and tie on to your line that goes to your house.

[46:00] Oh,

[46:08] that's what it'll be.

[46:13] Anything else?

[46:23] I'll make a motion with your meeting review financial statements and approvals.

[46:28] Seconded.

[46:28] All favorite?

[46:29] Aye.

Paragonah Town Board Regular Meeting

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