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Mhm.
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» Mhm.
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» Okay, good evening everyone. I'm Mayor
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Ted Bettencourt. I'd like to call the
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regular school committee meeting to
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order. Today is Wednesday, June 24th,
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2026.
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And we are beginning our meeting tonight
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at a 7:12 p.m.
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Uh tomorrow is the last day of school
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and we have a lot of ground to cover
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today. So, look forward to a uh good
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meeting with everyone. Uh as always, our
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meetings are being broadcast live on PVD
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TV. Uh minutes tonight are being taken
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by our recording secretary as our as
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always, Laura Bow. And we are going to
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have the as we always do every agenda,
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we have an opportunity for public
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participation. Anyone here that would
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like to speak at that time, microphone
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will be open as well as anybody that
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would like to join us on an online
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platform, we can welcome them in at that
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time.
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Um I'd like to start off with a If
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everybody could please stand for a
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moment of silence and then we'll do the
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pledge of allegiance, please.
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Thank you.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands, one nation
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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I guess there's no sound on the PVD TV.
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Testing one.
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» All right, I think
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we're back.
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>> We're back.
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>> All right. Excellent. Um
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we do have minutes from the June 9th,
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2026 regular school committee meeting.
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I'd open those up for discussion and or
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vote. Mrs. Dunn?
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>> Motion to receive and approve.
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>> Second.
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>> Thank you.
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I further motion by Mrs. Dunn for
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approval of the June 9th, 2026 regular
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school committee meeting
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seconded by Mr. Amico. Open that up for
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discussion. Ms. Melman?
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>> I do have some concerns about the
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minutes.
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Um in particular
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when there was a discussion about
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anti-Semitism and the issues being
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addressed within the district. Um Dr. Vidal had an opportunity to share
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what was happening and I thought that
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was wonderful. Um what was not captured
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in there and in particular when we're
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talking about a community that lately is
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being feeling unseen, unheard, and
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unvalued, what's missing in there was
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the discussion, albeit briefly, about
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the swastika that was on the ball field.
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And in in addition to that as of recent, I
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also know that there were some
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words that were there as well. That was
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not reflected in the minutes and I think
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it's incredibly problematic.
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It did make it to the news. Various
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local um
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reporters reported on it, but it's not
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in the minutes and I find it troubling.
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And I know also, Mayor, that you were
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looking into that, but um I do see it as
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a problem of something particularly with
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that gravity of not being in the
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minutes.
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So, I'll be voting no.
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>> I do remember that that was discussed.
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Do we want to make a motion to add that
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item to the minutes? I'm certainly good
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with that. I think that should be in
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there.
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I remember it certainly being discussed.
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>> It was.
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>> Yep. I knew I do know that the police
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were looking into it and there was so
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but yeah, I I think that should be in
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there and noted.
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So,
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uh could you add to the motion just the
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um
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uh discussion um of the
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uh swastika on the
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sports field sports field that that was
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uh discussed at the meeting as well.
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Mr. Amico?
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>> Through the chair to the committee as
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well, if we could also add um
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Dr. Vidal and his team really put
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together a uh
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a wonderful um
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was it the next next morning or a couple
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of days later we had the uh foundation
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come in and and have some discussions
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with students. I think we could add add
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something like that. Maybe if you could
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um
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give that to Ms. Bell
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um
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off air. That way we can put that in
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there as well. Add that.
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>> And so that's under item number four in
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the superintendent's report. We can just
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expand that paragraph.
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>> Perfect. Thank you.
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>> way everything will be included.
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>> Perfect. Thank you. Great. So, the
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motion's just been amended to make sure
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that um
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that item is mentioned in the minutes as
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it should be. Um
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roll call vote. Is that okay, Ms.
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Millman?
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>> Yep.
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>> Roll call vote, please.
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>> Mrs. Dunn.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mr. Olimpio.
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>> Yes.
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>> Ms. Millman.
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Yes.
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Mrs. Cox.
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Yes.
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>> Mr. Amico.
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>> Yes.
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» Thank you.
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Uh next item, approval of bills. We do
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have four warrants today. I'll turn over
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to you, Mr. Olimpio.
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>> Thank you. I'd like to make a motion to
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approve warrant number 6399
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in the amount of $10,365.30
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dated June 24th, 2026 subject to audit.
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>> Second.
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>> Okay, thank you. You've heard the motion
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by Mr. Olimpio for approval of warrant
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number 6399 seconded by Mr. Amico.
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Roll call vote, please.
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>> Mrs. Dunn.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mr. Olimpio.
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>> Yes.
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>> Ms. Millman.
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>> Yes. Mrs. Carpe- Oh, sorry. Mrs. Cox.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mr. Amico.
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>> Yes.
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>> I'd like to make a motion to approve
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warrant number 6402 in the amount of
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$1,346,018.60
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dated June 24th, 2026 subject to audit.
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>> Second.
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>> Thank you. You've heard the motion by
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Mr. Olimpio for approval of warrant
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number 6402.
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A motion was seconded by Mr. Amico.
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Roll call vote, please.
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>> Mrs. Dunn.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mr. Olimpio.
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>> Yes.
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>> Ms. Millman.
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>> Yes. Mrs. Cox.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mr. Amico.
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>> Yes.
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>> I'd like to make a motion to approve
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warrant number 6403
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in the amount of $56,156.18
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dated June 24th, 2026 subject to audit.
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>> Second.
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>> Thank you for the motion by Mr. Limpio
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for approval of warrant number 6403
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seconded by Mr. Amico. Roll call vote,
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please.
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>> Mrs. Dunn.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mr. Limpio.
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>> Yes.
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>> Ms. Lowman.
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Yes. Mrs. Cox.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mr. Amico.
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>> Yes.
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I'd like to make a motion to approve
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warrant number 6404 in the amount of
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$1,421
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dated June 24th, 2026 subject to audit.
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>> Second.
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» Great. Thank you for the motion by Mr.
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Limpio for approval of warrant number
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6404
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seconded by Mr. Amico.
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Roll call vote for approval, please.
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>> Mrs. Dunn.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mr. Limpio.
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>> Yes.
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>> Ms. Lowman. Yes. Mrs. Cox.
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>> Yes.
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>> Mr. Amico.
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>> Yes.
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» Great. Thank you. If there's no
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objection, we have a number of students
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here. I'd like to go to our students.
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Um if there's no objection, go out of
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order, go to public participation at
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this moment. Um so, we'll go to item
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number five. No objection?
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And uh excellent. So, if uh if I know we
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have our
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new finance director um
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who's going to who's going to work with
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our audio just just for a minute uh
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which which we appreciate uh
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So,
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we are fortunate that the that the
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budget was passed last night and so, I
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thank the school committee and the city
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council for that um and
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in that budget was a new performing arts
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director. So, Mr. Vasconcelos is here to
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talk a little bit about um some of the
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plans he has for music for K through 8
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and some of the support that he has. I
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know we want to hear from our families
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as well uh but I wanted to have
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uh
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Danny V, our music director, come before
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us and give us a little overview and
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context. Um and then we'd love to hear
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from our students as well.
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>> Good afternoon, everybody. It's a
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pleasure to be here. Um this is my first
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Well, first time here as director of
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fine arts. I want to thank all of you
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for doing such tremendous work for the
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city of Peabody. I know it's not easy. I
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watch these I come here every so often I
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watch them from home and um I want to
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thank all of you for doing the hard
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work, the real lift. It's not always
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easy. And boy, have I learned that in
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the last week. Woo.
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So, um my plans or our plans for the um
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for the staffing um especially at the
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elementary at the elementary level. Um
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the last few years it's been very
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difficult
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at the elementary level. We've uh had um
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we had a
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uh
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art teacher uh teach half art, half
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music. Uh she did a great job, but it
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just wasn't the right fit. It was We
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weren't getting the proper and
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high-quality instruction we want. So,
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this year we have decided to um
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restructure and be very efficient in our
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structuring, especially at the
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elementary level. At the elementary
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level, we need five
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um five teachers to cover a hundred and
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I think it's a hundred and thirty-eight
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classes. That leaves us with a around a
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teacher-to-student ratio about uh mid
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five hundreds, five twelve, five
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fifteen, around right there.
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Currently, we only have four.
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And that's that just uh four music
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teachers can only cover a hundred and
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twenty. So, we're short some. So, and so
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we restructured. And the plan is to
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bring a Higgins uh teacher music teacher
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from the Higgins to the elementary
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system so that we can have five art
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teachers for the all the schools and
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five music teachers for all the schools.
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Doing this, we are a actually able to um
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to
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lessen the burden of uh traveling in the
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middle of the day.
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We're also able to leave a teacher to
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have a teacher
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dedicate to the Brown School, which we
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can actually have them do the um general
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ed classes and the ascend classes for
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our vulnerable students with AS with
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ASD.
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Um because
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I find it really important that those
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kids, those wonderful children,
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get access to music and get access to
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art with students who they're
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comfortable with in a smaller classroom
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environment instead of second graders
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with kindergarteners and then they go to
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the concert and they don't know the the
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songs and sometimes you just you have to
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approach it differently. In a room with
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that many students, with 23 and more
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around there or it's just not the best
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situation. And uh you know, by bringing
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someone from the Higgins into uh the
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elementary system, we can alleviate some
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of those problems and and really bring
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high quality fine arts education to
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those students.
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>> [clears throat]
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>> We also end up uh having and um we have
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a wonderful teacher at the Higgins. We
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have a lot of great staff there and
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bringing one in, I think, is going to uh
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really help us, really help us in this.
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So, that are our that's our plans for at
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this time.
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Thank you.
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» Thank you, Mr. V. Are there any Anybody
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else who would like to come and speak?
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Any of our students or anybody who would
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like to come forward?
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Yeah, you can all come up together.
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Whoever's is if you could just introduce
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yourself and if you just press the
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button on the right.
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» Is it good?
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All right.
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Good evening. Good evening, everybody.
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My name is Leah Blanco and I am in the
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seventh grade. Well, tomorrow's the last
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day of school, so as soon as I walk out
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the doors, I'm going to be an eighth
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grader.
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I go to and I go to the Haggensville
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school. You probably recognize me for
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speaking at the last student committee
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for Mr. Simmons' retirement on May 21st,
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but I was also advocating for the PVD
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High School and my middle school. But
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today, I'm here for something different.
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Mr. Ev-
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Oh, shoot. Um
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I'm here for something different. Today,
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I'm here to defend one of my favorite
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teachers and my middle school itself
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and for the people that are interested
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in the arts like me.
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Basically, in the last 24 hours, there
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has been some some things that um have
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been told that Mr. Every, a current
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teacher of mine that I have right now,
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is being moved to the Carroll Elementary
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School. When I found this out, I was
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devastated. Mr. Every is literally just
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like Mr. Simmons, he cannot be replaced.
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He's literally a unicorn.
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Um if you didn't know, one of my friends
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who is actually right here made a
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petition and went around the school and
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asked 200 people to sign her petition
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for Mr. Every to not go to the
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elementary school.
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Um
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and yeah, Mr. Every is probably one of
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my favorite teachers that I know and I
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wouldn't have been here today sitting in
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the seat if it weren't for Mr. Every. He
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went out of his way and email emailed my
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mom to let me come here and I explained
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to her about this meeting. He explained
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to um my mom about this meeting and I
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eventually made it here. I bet he's
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really proud of me for speaking up today
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and probably really proud of everyone
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else that here even being here speaking
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up today as well. Um he's probably one
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of my favorite teachers and one of the
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most supportive people I know and one of
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the nicest people I know. My class has
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probably been really rowdy this year and
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really loud but every day that I looked
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at Mr. Every he was never upset, never
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mad. He was always so sweet and joyful
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and he would never roll his eyes.
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I remember about 2 weeks ago I probably
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had one of the worst weeks of my life
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and I wasn't in his class for about 4
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days and we had a quiz that week as well
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and I came back on a Friday. Friday was
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the day of the quiz and I was not
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prepared. I didn't know what to do. I
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was panicked and then I heard from him,
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"Since you haven't been here all week I
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will excuse you from the test." I didn't
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know what to say or what to do. I
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obviously wanted to take the test
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because I didn't want to um make my
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family mad or like fail. So with this
[31:34]
sweet kind offer I ended up taking the
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test. The fact that Mr. Every's moving
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schools this year the year I'm about to
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go into eighth grade really devastates
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me because he is offering a lot of
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classes for the eighth graders like
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guitar etc. etc. And he's offering
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guitar for people that want to be
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musicians like him.
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If you didn't know some people in my
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family played guitar. One of them was my
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uncle. My uncle was really happy when I
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told him I wanted to play guitar when I
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was about 11. About 3 weeks ago on my
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13th birthday I got a guitar and I found
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it on the couch. He really wanted me to
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learn guitar because I always wanted to
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be like him and he was like a role model
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to me. After my uncle left the house I
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found a card in the guitar case. I wish
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I had it with me right now. Um I would
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read it. Um and it only said one
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sentence in it and it probably changed
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my whole music career. It said, "Leah, I
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hope your music career can um learn and
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grow."
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That was it.
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Um the next day I brought the guitar to
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school and asked Mr. Every to tune it
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for me. He recommended me joining guitar
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class in the eighth grade. I obviously
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said yes to make my uncle proud he
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because he wanted me to learn guitar and
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I knew a lot of my other friends wanted
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to play guitar as well and they didn't
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probably even know one single chord. And
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they wanted to do the guitar class in
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eighth grade. But he also led tech crew
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at the time. And he
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worked on the set during
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like the lights in the stage. Um during
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our this year's production Singin' in
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the Rain. I played Zelda Zanders and are
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behind the scenes and our set looked
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amazing. But now that he's leaving we
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lose a bunch of things. Kids won't be
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kids that can't get guitar lessons
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outside of school will not know how to
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play guitar if they're willing to
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um take guitar lessons this year.
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Without him. We will not have a good set
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design for we will not have a good um
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set for our drama club without him. We
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will not have a really good teacher that
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will make us smile every day anymore
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without him. We will lose a bunch of
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things if he's not here.
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Um
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And I feel like and Like I said um all
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the people that are here are mostly
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going to eighth grade mostly. Um
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And it's it will be our last year at
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Hagans. I know um a lot of people
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I know a lot of people have a different
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opinions but this is my opinion. We
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won't have a good year a good last year
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if he's not there. He he was our light
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when we were dark. He supported us and
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made us feel like a person again. He
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made he made us feel seen and heard. But
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now that he's leaving nobody will get
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the opportunity. The sixth graders the
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upcoming sixth graders won't be able to
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have a good opportunity to see what a
[34:10]
good teacher was like.
[34:12]
Um the seventh graders will miss him and
[34:13]
not probably have not have him anymore.
[34:15]
And the eighth graders won't get to
[34:17]
um off get Oh my god. Do the programs
[34:20]
that they offer that he offers. I know
[34:23]
that I know we are trying to work on our
[34:24]
budget and I would like this to be
[34:27]
reconsidered and thought a little more.
[34:28]
Like I said last time don't let the
[34:30]
outlet disconnect reconsider all of
[34:32]
this. Please protect the arts and a
[34:34]
losing Mr. Avery is not complete at all.
[34:37]
I'm going to make the same little joke
[34:38]
like I made last time when I was talking
[34:40]
about Mr. Simmons' retirement. Mr. Avery
[34:43]
leaving is like not complete. It's like
[34:45]
eating a cone without ice cream.
[34:47]
Um the only reconsideration that I
[34:51]
couldn't probably think of, well, I
[34:53]
can't really think of it because I'm not
[34:54]
a teacher and I don't know how it works.
[34:56]
So, I don't know if it's really that
[34:58]
hard or not. Um maybe hiring someone
[35:00]
else at the Carol School
[35:02]
and maybe keep Mr. Avery at the middle
[35:04]
school, but I'm not a teacher and I
[35:06]
don't know how that's going to work
[35:07]
because I don't know if it's that easy
[35:09]
or not.
[35:10]
But, yeah. Thank you for your time.
[35:13]
>> Thank you, Leah.
[35:19]
» Hello. My name is Alicia Sandair. I've
[35:21]
been in the music program at Higgins
[35:23]
Middle School for the past 3 years and
[35:25]
now I'm a rising freshman. All the music
[35:28]
teachers at Higgins have all helped me
[35:29]
grow and learn as a musician. Taking one
[35:32]
of the music teachers away is a really
[35:34]
bad decision. As important
[35:38]
Mr. Avery's really important for our
[35:40]
music program. Mr. Avery runs the tech
[35:43]
crew at
[35:44]
Gosh.
[35:45]
Mr. Avery runs the tech crew at Higgins.
[35:47]
He teaches four general music classes
[35:49]
and one guitar class. Everyone I know
[35:52]
who's taken his classes learned
[35:53]
something greatly even if they don't
[35:54]
want to become a musician.
[35:57]
A good reason to have the music classes
[35:59]
is that it is scientifically proven that
[36:01]
music benefits your brain in many ways
[36:04]
including strengthening your memory,
[36:06]
helps with multitasking, and can reduce
[36:08]
stress.
[36:09]
Helps form new
[36:12]
connections and can raise your overall
[36:14]
IQ. These benefits help people of all
[36:16]
ages, which is why music is important to
[36:19]
have in both elementary school and
[36:21]
middle school, which I do understand
[36:23]
that we have three other music teachers
[36:24]
at Higgins, but Mr. G Mr. Gianopoulos
[36:27]
strictly only teaches concert band,
[36:29]
which isn't very accessible for
[36:31]
everybody as not everybody wants to like
[36:33]
learn an instrument. And Mr. Stone only
[36:36]
teaches choir and theater, which isn't cuz most
[36:40]
people a lot of people don't want to
[36:41]
take choir.
[36:44]
So, Mr. Every teaching his music class is
[36:51]
greatly beneficial for everybody in the
[36:53]
school.
[36:56]
Mrs. Mrs. Jones has been teaching
[37:01]
Mrs.
[37:03]
Jones teaches one of her
[37:07]
Mrs. Jones teaches two music classes and
[37:09]
two beginner classes for music. Since
[37:12]
the fifth grade music program was cut a
[37:13]
few years back, Mrs. Jones has had Mrs.
[37:16]
Jones has had to move up to the middle
[37:17]
school.
[37:22]
Which
[37:25]
Having Having Mr. Every gone would mean
[37:27]
that Mrs. Jones would have to teach
[37:30]
general art and she wouldn't be able to
[37:31]
focus on teaching beginners how to play
[37:35]
their instruments.
[37:37]
Mr. Every personally runs tech crew.
[37:39]
Without Mr. Every, most of the
[37:41]
operations in Higgins drama club would
[37:43]
not be able to run. One example is the
[37:45]
lighting and the sound crew.
[37:47]
In the start of the year, Mr. Every
[37:48]
teaches them how to operate the lighting
[37:50]
and the sound panel. This is a very
[37:52]
difficult task that they are able to by
[37:55]
the end of the school year where our
[37:56]
drama club puts on a production. Another
[37:58]
job of the tech tech crew is that Mr.
[38:02]
Every manages is making sure that all
[38:04]
the props and set are sets are perfect.
[38:06]
As an actor, going on stage is very
[38:08]
stressful. And Mr. Every making sure
[38:11]
that everything is perfect by the time
[38:13]
of our show makes it a lot less
[38:15]
stressful.
[38:18]
And I have one question for the school
[38:20]
board for the school committee.
[38:24]
Why is performing arts always getting
[38:27]
this
[38:28]
Like, why is performing arts always I
[38:30]
feel like getting attacked? Cuz I feel
[38:33]
like it's almost like every year
[38:35]
something happens in performing arts
[38:37]
where it's
[38:38]
not helping
[38:40]
Something happens to performing arts.
[38:42]
I've seen a lot of people who grow out
[38:45]
of their shell. This program is
[38:46]
beneficial to so many people that I
[38:48]
know. I don't understand why we are
[38:50]
always the first people to be targeted.
[38:55]
Everybody's voice should be heard. And I
[38:58]
personally made a petition that has
[39:00]
about one I made the petition, I think,
[39:02]
about 7 hours ago and it has over 100
[39:06]
signatures now.
[39:07]
This, in my personal opinion, proves how
[39:09]
important Mr. Every is to our school and
[39:12]
our community. Thank you for your time.
[39:15]
>> Thank you.
[39:19]
Welcome.
[39:22]
» Hello. My name is Serafina Di Gregorio
[39:24]
and I'm a seventh grader here at
[39:26]
Higgins. And today, I wanted to bring
[39:28]
forward and present a concern
[39:30]
of many students.
[39:32]
For Mr. Every, one of our music
[39:33]
teachers, me and my friend Sophia
[39:35]
Downing put together this petition. It
[39:38]
started as some silly idea yesterday at
[39:39]
lunch, but now it's turned into a
[39:41]
showcase of determination, resilience,
[39:43]
and passion for musical education. It
[39:46]
was incredibly last minute and getting
[39:48]
200 signatures in one day was certainly
[39:49]
not easy. I'm so proud of all the
[39:51]
teamwork we had, all the help we got,
[39:53]
and really thankful for each signature.
[39:55]
Music is very important to me and many
[39:57]
of my friends and classmates, and it
[39:59]
felt like a let down hearing the news of
[40:00]
his relocation. But going around the
[40:02]
halls collecting signatures was such a
[40:04]
hopeful feeling. There's not much
[40:06]
convincing I can do with my own voice,
[40:08]
which is why me and Sophia felt it was
[40:09]
important to ask for others' voices.
[40:11]
Next year, my friends and I were looking
[40:12]
forward to taking a guitar class with
[40:13]
him and being in the school musical.
[40:16]
With him moving,
[40:17]
we won't be able to experience these
[40:19]
things. He runs the tech crew and
[40:20]
teaches music for all grades, and it
[40:22]
wouldn't feel the same without him
[40:23]
teaching. With that, I hope me and my
[40:25]
classmates' voices can make a difference
[40:27]
in this matter because our effort and
[40:29]
hope for this has been great to
[40:30]
experience, and I want it to count for
[40:31]
something. Thank you.
[40:34]
>> Thank you.
[40:42]
» Hello. My name is Gabriella Monjalo.
[40:45]
For me, as a person, music matters to me
[40:47]
a lot, and I know for a lot of other
[40:49]
people it matters, too. For some people,
[40:52]
it's their only outlet. Some people may
[40:54]
have bad experiences at home,
[40:56]
and they may only have a teacher to rely
[40:59]
on. By removing Mr. Every from the
[41:00]
middle school, you don't know how many
[41:02]
trusts can be lost. Some people are too
[41:05]
scared to talk to their guidance
[41:06]
counselor, and some people are too
[41:08]
scared to talk to their families
[41:11]
or even friends.
[41:12]
Not only is he beneficial to drama club,
[41:15]
which I was personally in,
[41:18]
I mean, without him, who would be
[41:19]
controlling the lights? I know I can't
[41:21]
do that. And he taught my friend Koda
[41:23]
very well.
[41:25]
Now,
[41:25]
if you were to really think about it,
[41:28]
especially like me, I am a very shy
[41:31]
person, and the people that I reach out
[41:33]
to
[41:34]
are usually the people I trust the most,
[41:36]
and I know tons of people who trust Mr.
[41:38]
Every with their information.
[41:41]
I think that this
[41:43]
decision is not helpful at all for
[41:45]
people like that, and not helpful for
[41:47]
the music program.
[41:49]
By losing Mr. Every, it's like missing a
[41:51]
piece in a puzzle. The puzzle cannot be
[41:53]
complete if not all pieces are there. By
[41:56]
then, you may as well just destroy it.
[41:59]
Also,
[42:01]
our music,
[42:02]
well, you know, the music program at all
[42:04]
the schools is already collapsing very
[42:08]
much each year. This is because people
[42:10]
don't realize how much arts and music
[42:12]
benefit people. It helps them express
[42:15]
themselves. It helps them express their
[42:18]
creativity.
[42:19]
And by taking away someone
[42:21]
who is really important to that matter,
[42:24]
you are destroying the minds of many
[42:26]
children who may have gotten a chance of
[42:29]
creativity or spark from music or arts.
[42:33]
I think that we should rethink this
[42:35]
decision.
[42:36]
Of course, I'm only just a child, so I
[42:38]
wouldn't know much about how this works.
[42:41]
But, I do think that all things should
[42:44]
be reconsidered,
[42:46]
especially this major decision.
[42:49]
And in chances like this, if we are
[42:51]
trying to make budget cuts,
[42:53]
sometimes we have to sacrifice more than
[42:56]
just that.
[42:57]
And by losing a teacher, that doesn't
[43:00]
help a lot of people. Even some teachers
[43:03]
may have a great connection with with
[43:05]
Mr. Avery, and now they might not be
[43:06]
able to see him.
[43:08]
I think that this this decision to be
[43:10]
rethinked, but of course, this is your
[43:12]
decision on the matter.
[43:15]
Thank you.
[43:27]
» Hi everyone. I'm Lindsey Hatton. I am
[43:30]
with the Higgins Performing Arts Parents
[43:32]
Group. I'm also the volunteer
[43:34]
choreographer for the show every year,
[43:36]
um which is incredibly fun, by the way.
[43:38]
Um I just wanted to thank you for
[43:40]
listening to these students. They really
[43:41]
said it all. Um Mr. Avery has a huge
[43:44]
place in our hearts. He's very important
[43:46]
to our school, to our show, to the
[43:48]
technical crew who learns so much from
[43:50]
him. Um so, I appreciate you listening
[43:53]
to all the students, and just know how
[43:55]
important he is.
[43:56]
Thank you.
[44:05]
» Hi, I'm Gina Miranda. I am the mother of
[44:07]
Gabriella Mondello and um um
[44:10]
we've been lucky that we reside in
[44:12]
Peabody and she's had a great education
[44:14]
up to seventh grade. I see the teachers
[44:16]
in Peabody going way beyond
[44:19]
what's expected of them to give these
[44:21]
kids the best experience and I you know
[44:24]
I understand you know
[44:26]
there's not enough teachers for our
[44:28]
elementary school and then here at the
[44:31]
Haggerty's I just feel like we have the
[44:33]
best group of teachers and individuals
[44:36]
and to take one of those away is going
[44:38]
to
[44:39]
break that up but I know that Mr. Avery
[44:41]
will do everything he can in his power
[44:43]
to make sure that that doesn't happen
[44:45]
and um
[44:47]
you know I just want to commend every
[44:49]
teacher and for the students in here
[44:51]
speaking for the students and the choice
[44:53]
for all of the Haggerty's music drama
[44:56]
and um we're going to continue
[44:57]
supporting them no matter what and
[45:00]
just consider you know
[45:02]
the decisions you make and then how it
[45:03]
impacts the students. Thank you.
[45:15]
» Well, thank you to all of our student
[45:18]
speakers and and parents. That was
[45:20]
excellent. Very well done.
[45:22]
Anybody else who would like to speak at
[45:24]
the this time? Microphone is open.
[45:28]
Do we have any?
[45:34]
And those petitions that were mentioned,
[45:36]
if those petitions could be sent to
[45:39]
Dr. Vidal's office, the superintendent,
[45:41]
the petitions, those could be sent to
[45:43]
Dr. Vidal's office. That'd be great.
[45:46]
That'd be helpful.
[45:47]
Okay, thank you.
[45:50]
Anybody else who would like to speak?
[45:52]
Okay, anybody online?
[46:01]
Yeah.
[46:03]
I want
[46:09]
Okay.
[46:13]
Next we're going to continued business.
[46:16]
And
[46:18]
First item is the Peabody Veterans
[46:19]
Memorial High School MSBA project
[46:21]
update, Mrs. Dunn.
[46:22]
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm very happy
[46:24]
to report that we
[46:26]
ended up last week having our
[46:28]
appointment with the MSBA
[46:31]
design panel selection board. There were
[46:34]
uh
[46:35]
13 members of the MSBA and three members
[46:38]
from from Peabody. We presented the um
[46:44]
four candidates that had applied
[46:47]
and the selection board went through
[46:48]
them along with us and after a vote, the
[46:52]
field was narrowed to two. So, the top
[46:55]
two firms from that process have been
[46:58]
moved forward and there will be a
[47:01]
further process on the 14th of July at
[47:04]
which time that 13-member board as well
[47:07]
as the three representatives from
[47:08]
Peabody will meet again, but we will be
[47:11]
able to interview the two firms that
[47:14]
uh have been selected to move forward
[47:17]
and then at that time after the
[47:19]
interviews and there is a lot of
[47:21]
research going on right now regarding
[47:24]
the projects that those firms have
[47:26]
worked on, their references, um just the
[47:28]
different types of work they have done
[47:30]
and uh all of the subcontractors that
[47:33]
they utilize. Those
[47:35]
all go into the uh discussion that will
[47:38]
come up on the 14th and then at that
[47:40]
point we will know who our design team
[47:42]
will be for the high school project.
[47:45]
The uh school building committee is also
[47:47]
planning several trips in the few in in
[47:50]
the future, hopefully in the very near
[47:51]
future, to go out and look at more
[47:53]
schools just to look at the projects
[47:56]
that are out there. We're trying to find
[47:58]
projects that were completed by these
[48:00]
firms as well as others because you can
[48:02]
get all kinds of different ideas with
[48:04]
all the different schools that we're
[48:06]
looking at. So, we're moving forward and
[48:09]
everything's going well and on time.
[48:12]
So, I'm always happy to answer any
[48:13]
questions if anyone has some. Thank you.
[48:17]
>> Thank you, Mr. Dunn. Any questions?
[48:19]
Okay.
[48:20]
Uh next item I asked to remain on Mass
[48:22]
Core. I know we spoke about it
[48:24]
at length at the last meeting, but I I
[48:25]
think we were awaiting maybe some
[48:27]
guidance.
[48:29]
Um so, is there an update that can be
[48:31]
provided?
[48:31]
>> And I do have the first item on the
[48:33]
superintendent's report. We could roll
[48:34]
this right in if that's okay, Mr. Mayor.
[48:36]
>> I'm I'm fine with that.
[48:38]
>> Thank you. Uh so, if we jump to the
[48:39]
superintendent's report, Mr. Mayor, if
[48:40]
that's okay.
[48:41]
>> If no objection, no objection, we'll go
[48:43]
right to that. It's a good idea.
[48:45]
>> Excellent. So, the first item is the
[48:46]
statewide graduation standards.
[48:48]
Uh and so, in the written
[48:49]
communications, the full report, the
[48:51]
140-page report uh that I emailed to you
[48:54]
is in there. So, I'm not sure if
[48:55]
everybody had a chance to read the
[48:57]
entire thing, uh but I did give a a
[48:59]
brief uh overview of of the areas. And
[49:02]
really, the recommendations coming out
[49:03]
of the state, uh there are four major
[49:05]
recommendations. And the first one is
[49:07]
the foundational coursework, and
[49:08]
ensuring that all high schools have uh a
[49:11]
complete foundational coursework, which
[49:13]
includes Mass Core. Uh the completion
[49:15]
date for this, they're asking us for the
[49:17]
current seventh graders uh who are
[49:19]
rising eighth graders, the class of
[49:21]
2031, for it to be fully implemented for
[49:23]
their graduating class. And as as you
[49:25]
know, uh Ms. Randall and Mrs. uh Finn
[49:29]
were before us, and we have a a
[49:31]
comprehensive plan to implement this in
[49:33]
our program of studies moving forward
[49:34]
with the class of 2030. Um so, we are
[49:36]
prepared for that. I know that Ms. Dunn
[49:38]
and Mr. Olimpio met earlier tonight with
[49:40]
a number of policies. Um so, hopefully
[49:42]
we'll uh be bringing that up during the
[49:44]
policy piece as well and and for a first
[49:48]
read. I'll give a quick overview of
[49:50]
numbers two, three, and four, and then
[49:52]
we can have a a little bit more of a
[49:53]
robust discussion.
[49:54]
Uh the the other items don't necessarily
[49:56]
have a a similar timeline. Uh it's more
[49:59]
of these are the recommendations, and
[50:00]
then we'll be working together to figure
[50:02]
out what that is. So, one of the
[50:04]
recommendations is that there will be
[50:06]
end-of-course assessments, uh similar to
[50:08]
a final exam, uh but it would be a
[50:10]
statewide final exam in certain courses,
[50:13]
and this will eventually take the place
[50:14]
of MCAS.
[50:16]
Um
[50:16]
I think there's a lot to be teased out
[50:18]
here around what courses they will will
[50:21]
be I mean, if it's biology, that's
[50:23]
similar to the MCAS biology. If it's
[50:25]
math, are we doing geometry? Are we
[50:27]
doing algebra one? You know, what what
[50:29]
does that look like? What does it look
[50:30]
like for uh students to do integrated
[50:32]
math? Um in the ELA classes, is it ninth
[50:34]
grade ELA? Is it 10th grade ELA? So, a
[50:36]
lot of questions on that, but the
[50:37]
end-of-course assessments is something
[50:39]
that they're looking to standardize. Um
[50:41]
the third thing is post-secondary
[50:43]
planning. So, My Cap is uh
[50:46]
is is a program that we use, and uh
[50:49]
they're looking to expand this for all
[50:50]
students. And it's basically creating
[50:52]
individualized post-secondary plans for
[50:54]
students. I think this is a wonderful
[50:55]
idea. We do this with our special
[50:56]
education students in terms of
[50:58]
transition planning, and we see the
[51:00]
benefit of that for all students. So, uh
[51:02]
they're looking to formalize
[51:04]
post-secondary plans for everyone, and
[51:06]
creating a plan so that everyone has uh
[51:08]
sort of a team and a plan and an idea of
[51:10]
what they're doing post- high school.
[51:12]
And then the third uh the fourth and
[51:14]
final one is a culminating experience.
[51:16]
And so, that means at some point during
[51:18]
your senior year, you'll either present
[51:20]
a portfolio of your work, and or you'll
[51:22]
do a capstone project, and sometimes
[51:24]
that's service learning. A lot of
[51:26]
schools are going into this, um and we
[51:27]
have some of this. It's not formalized
[51:29]
across the entire um grade, but but it
[51:32]
is something that we could do. Uh and
[51:33]
so, you could choose between a portfolio
[51:35]
experience, where you uh presented sort
[51:38]
of a portfolio of all your best work,
[51:40]
and we had a presentation similar to the
[51:42]
civic showcase or something like that,
[51:44]
or you did a capstone project, something
[51:46]
that you really were passionate about
[51:48]
and you went into the community and you
[51:50]
were able to do a service learning
[51:51]
project and then do a presentation on
[51:52]
it. So, it's really real world skills
[51:54]
that they're looking at. Again, there's
[51:56]
no timeline on this one either. Um so,
[51:59]
numbers two through four very ambitious,
[52:01]
uh very creative, things that we really
[52:03]
enjoy. Uh there's a number of other
[52:05]
things in there as well that we can
[52:06]
tease into, but really the first one
[52:08]
with a timeline is the Mass Core
[52:10]
completion for that foundational
[52:11]
coursework. Um so, I'm happy to answer
[52:14]
any questions. I think a good next step
[52:16]
for us is to really take a look at the
[52:17]
policy and and see where the School
[52:19]
Committee lands. I know that um I don't
[52:21]
know what whether we want to bring that
[52:23]
up during the subcommittee reports. Um
[52:25]
but I think, you know, that that's our
[52:26]
logical next step uh for for Mass Core
[52:29]
adoption.
[52:32]
» Thank you, Dr. Della. Um Ms. Millman,
[52:34]
anything on that side?
[52:37]
>> Just to add a some clarity to um if you
[52:39]
could
[52:40]
speak to it um
[52:42]
uh of what you know. I mean, the Mass
[52:44]
Core I think is the easiest part of it.
[52:45]
We're we're almost there. Um I think
[52:48]
that's the benefit, the fact that you've
[52:50]
endorsed that, the fact that um
[52:52]
uh Principal Randall as well, um and
[52:54]
guidance, and they've been working on
[52:56]
that and and it's important and I think
[52:58]
when we look at the over 10 years of
[53:01]
data that has supported Mass Core, it's
[53:03]
good to be on this road now and to even
[53:05]
be 1 year in advance. Just the um a
[53:08]
piece of reference or clarification. So,
[53:10]
when and your slide indicates about the
[53:13]
end of what they're calling EOC, the end
[53:15]
of course um assessments will eventually
[53:17]
take place of MCAS. It is not going to
[53:19]
be high stakes, however, regardless. And
[53:21]
I think that's an important thing to
[53:23]
know. It's just going to be relative to
[53:26]
seeing where students are landing and
[53:28]
data collection. It is it will not be a
[53:31]
MCAS substitute. It's not taking the um
[53:34]
aspect of high stakes that you need to
[53:36]
get a particular score um as you did
[53:39]
with MCAS in order to receive a diploma.
[53:41]
And I think that's one big difference.
[53:44]
Albeit, there's a lot to be worked out
[53:46]
on all of this, and I believe if my
[53:48]
understanding is and been part of some
[53:50]
of the background and the a lot of this
[53:51]
is yet to come. While there still are
[53:54]
districts in doing the capstone, for
[53:55]
example, is or the MyCap MyCap capstone
[53:58]
projects is something a lot of people
[54:00]
are doing, and we're doing parts of
[54:01]
that. So, we are in those ways ahead of
[54:03]
some things. So, I think it's a great
[54:05]
idea. I'm glad we're moving forward with
[54:07]
it and it's being endorsed, and it it's
[54:10]
really a benefit to our students because
[54:12]
why would we not want to be ahead of
[54:14]
things? Why would we not want our
[54:16]
students to rise to what we have all
[54:18]
this documentation and data and
[54:20]
information about that is a benefit to
[54:22]
students. And for certain, the
[54:24]
Commonwealth spoke about MCAS, so that
[54:26]
is gone.
[54:28]
Yet, we do still want to have
[54:29]
information and data how students are
[54:31]
performing and and how our schools are
[54:33]
doing in meeting basic standards. So, I
[54:35]
think it's I think it's great, and it's
[54:37]
a great move forward.
[54:40]
>> Well said. Thank you.
[54:42]
Any other comments on the side of Mr.
[54:43]
Mico?
[54:44]
>> Through the chair to Dr. Abdalla, has
[54:46]
the state given us any guidance on cost, on how this is going to be
[54:51]
funded? Because, you know, my 25 years
[54:53]
of education,
[54:55]
the newest,
[54:56]
best, brightest thing that comes down
[54:58]
the road, the shiny red car, it's very
[55:00]
expensive, and it all looks great. I
[55:03]
mean, this is a great menu, looks great.
[55:06]
Um but, it's going to cost a lot of
[55:08]
money, and I worry about our budgets.
[55:12]
Um we're halfway through the year, and
[55:14]
it wasn't a good 6 months on the state
[55:17]
rolls. So, next year is going to be
[55:19]
worse than this year, and, you know, we
[55:21]
need we need to catch up. So, my
[55:23]
concerns about this is I love the fact
[55:26]
that MCAS is being eliminated,
[55:28]
but we'll we'll still have data, and
[55:30]
we'll still have the communities that will have the high
[55:35]
scores, and then, you know, the s-
[55:38]
the other communities will not. And it sometimes comes down to funding.
[55:42]
Let's not fool ourselves. MCAS was a
[55:44]
funding engine by the Commonwealth. And
[55:48]
um I have concerns about this moving
[55:51]
forward. I'm all for, you know, I want
[55:54]
to give the kids the best.
[55:56]
But this country has not proven that
[55:58]
education is as important as we all
[56:01]
think it is.
[56:02]
You know, teachers are number one on the
[56:04]
list on on burnout in educa- in in any
[56:07]
profession. That I'll tell you right
[56:09]
there. So, my concerns are on the
[56:10]
monetary end. I want to make sure that
[56:13]
the state and the feds are funding. And
[56:15]
um I just want to
[56:17]
basically just back to the question if you've heard anything about funding
[56:21]
because unmandated unfunded mandates are
[56:24]
uh are something that we've had to deal
[56:26]
with for quite some time now. Thank you.
[56:30]
» Th- Thank you, Mr. Mico. Uh
[56:32]
yes, absolutely. It does feel as though
[56:35]
a lot of this may be an unfunded
[56:36]
mandate. Uh Mrs. Dunn did send me uh
[56:39]
there there are some grant funding out
[56:41]
there uh
[56:42]
for some implementation and things like
[56:44]
that. I do worry, to your point, of the
[56:47]
sustainability. You know, there may be
[56:48]
some upfront money, and then what
[56:50]
happens? Is there going to be a cliff?
[56:52]
Is, you know,
[56:53]
what happens once you bake that into
[56:55]
your budget? Are we able to sustain it?
[56:57]
Uh I think in terms of number one,
[57:00]
I think we're ready. I think we're we're there. In terms of the other ones,
[57:03]
I do have significant concerns as well
[57:05]
because the end-of-course assessments,
[57:07]
there's going to be a fee, a co- there's
[57:09]
going to be a cost for that. Uh
[57:11]
and just like MCAS, MCAS is here now,
[57:13]
and it doesn't count for graduation, but
[57:15]
it counts for our accountability. And
[57:16]
so, that's confusing for people. And,
[57:19]
you know, it it it matters for our
[57:21]
teachers and for our schools and and for
[57:23]
our accountability. End-of-course
[57:24]
assessments will be the same way. They
[57:26]
may not be high-stakes for the students,
[57:27]
but they're still go- going to matter,
[57:29]
and we're going to be judged on them.
[57:30]
And so, I think, you know, a lot of
[57:32]
these things are good in in principle.
[57:34]
Um I think there's a lot of research
[57:36]
around Mass Core being good for kids. Um
[57:38]
and I think we can do that and I think
[57:39]
we can do high expectations. The other
[57:40]
ones I I do I share your concerns and I
[57:43]
think we'll we'll tease that out. Um but
[57:45]
I I I would be behind number one. Um two
[57:47]
through four there's going to need need
[57:49]
a lot of discussion around that.
[57:52]
>> Thank you, Mr. Mico.
[57:53]
Any other comments on this item, Mrs.
[57:55]
Dunn?
[57:56]
>> Yes, I actually share Mr. Mico's worries
[57:59]
as long as the superintendent. My
[58:01]
concern is
[58:02]
the sustainability of this because it is
[58:05]
an unfunded mandate.
[58:07]
And we are going to have to
[58:10]
realign and
[58:11]
reassign our staff to accommodate the
[58:15]
change in the graduation requirements on
[58:18]
the coursework that's required. Not next
[58:21]
year, but probably the year after and
[58:23]
further down the road.
[58:25]
I'm also
[58:27]
concerned
[58:32]
because
[58:35]
we presently offer a very rich
[58:38]
curriculum.
[58:40]
Any student in this district who chooses
[58:43]
to take the courses that are recommended
[58:45]
through the Mass Core recommendations
[58:47]
can do so.
[58:49]
And many of our students do.
[58:52]
It's recommended to them by the guidance
[58:54]
department when they're making plans and
[58:55]
they choose if they choose to go to a
[58:58]
four-year college, they know which
[58:59]
requirements they have to take.
[59:03]
And we have students who have made it
[59:05]
into highly selective colleges, the Ivy
[59:07]
League,
[59:08]
some very very prestigious schools that
[59:10]
have high record high requirements to
[59:12]
get in.
[59:14]
We also have students who decide to go a
[59:16]
different route
[59:17]
and go into a different level of
[59:19]
college, whether it is a state college
[59:21]
or an associate's degree at a local
[59:25]
community college.
[59:27]
That is a decision that students and
[59:29]
families make.
[59:33]
We heard our own students discuss this
[59:36]
at student government day.
[59:38]
And it was one of the most interesting
[59:40]
conversations to hear those students
[59:42]
debate this back and forth.
[59:45]
They voted it down.
[59:47]
They didn't want to lose the ability to
[59:49]
take the courses that they wanted to.
[59:52]
They were afraid how it was going to
[59:54]
impact their choices.
[59:57]
And I can understand what they were
[59:58]
saying.
[1:00:04]
This
[1:00:05]
entire
[1:00:08]
graduation council project
[1:00:11]
was very interesting. And if you talk to
[1:00:13]
the people who were involved in it, who
[1:00:15]
actually sat in those meetings, you can
[1:00:18]
actually hear the frustration when they
[1:00:19]
were told that
[1:00:22]
their voice was not really needed.
[1:00:26]
This decision came directly from
[1:00:28]
Secretary Tutwiler.
[1:00:30]
He was very firm about that.
[1:00:34]
The input
[1:00:35]
that school committee members,
[1:00:38]
superintendents, and educators provided
[1:00:41]
at those meetings
[1:00:44]
did not carry weight.
[1:00:46]
Which is a shame because these are the
[1:00:47]
people who are out on the front lines
[1:00:49]
and had a good understanding of what was
[1:00:52]
coming.
[1:00:54]
The fact that they keep trying to assure
[1:00:55]
us that the end-of-course assessment is
[1:00:57]
not going to be
[1:01:00]
determinative of someone graduating.
[1:01:03]
No, it's not because if you read the
[1:01:04]
language about the end-of-course
[1:01:06]
assessments,
[1:01:08]
the state's going to dictate what the
[1:01:10]
assessment is.
[1:01:12]
It's MCAS by another name.
[1:01:15]
And it also says
[1:01:17]
that it will be required that students
[1:01:21]
must pass those.
[1:01:23]
Please explain the difference to me on
[1:01:25]
that. I don't see any difference.
[1:01:28]
And I can only imagine the cost of that.
[1:01:32]
Not only the financial cost, but the
[1:01:34]
cost if our teachers have to make those
[1:01:36]
assessments and create those
[1:01:37]
assessments. The amount of time that our
[1:01:39]
staff will have to devote to creating
[1:01:41]
end of course assessments. Now, they do
[1:01:43]
that now.
[1:01:45]
But when it's going to be dictated
[1:01:47]
with certain parameters by the state to
[1:01:49]
meet certain requirements,
[1:01:52]
maybe right now it's a it's a
[1:01:56]
hidden unfunded mandate. In a
[1:01:59]
another year it'll be a definite
[1:02:01]
unfunded mandate.
[1:02:04]
And then I have another issue, and I know everything I
[1:02:07]
say right now is going to be twisted and
[1:02:09]
used against me, and I'm going to say it
[1:02:10]
anyway.
[1:02:13]
We have sat here
[1:02:16]
and have heard from many people
[1:02:17]
criticizing our district, criticizing
[1:02:20]
everything that we offer, criticizing
[1:02:22]
our staff, criticizing our programs.
[1:02:26]
We have seen data
[1:02:29]
and been told we are not servicing
[1:02:31]
properly
[1:02:32]
our special education students, we're
[1:02:33]
not supporting them, we're not
[1:02:35]
supporting our ELL students, we're not
[1:02:36]
supporting our students, and we're
[1:02:38]
creating a huge problem with dropouts.
[1:02:43]
How much is it going to cost
[1:02:45]
to put in place the appropriate supports
[1:02:47]
for our students?
[1:02:51]
If we're having that kind of result
[1:02:52]
right now with our apparently
[1:02:55]
substandard offerings,
[1:02:58]
when we put in a more rigorous
[1:03:00]
>> [snorts]
[1:03:02]
>> curriculum and requirement,
[1:03:06]
how much is that going to cost?
[1:03:09]
How are we going to protect the kids
[1:03:12]
who struggle now?
[1:03:18]
They're having trouble now.
[1:03:21]
What are we going to do
[1:03:23]
with more coursework that's required and
[1:03:26]
more rigorous?
[1:03:29]
Our dropout rate is something that
[1:03:31]
everyone keeps pointing to. We have put
[1:03:33]
in so many programs to protect our
[1:03:37]
students and help them across the finish
[1:03:39]
line.
[1:03:41]
We have
[1:03:43]
the learning academy.
[1:03:46]
We have Peabody Prep.
[1:03:49]
We have
[1:03:50]
the PANS program.
[1:03:53]
We have teachers who work closely with
[1:03:56]
our students to help them.
[1:04:00]
Our school adjustment counselors can
[1:04:02]
only work with special education
[1:04:03]
students.
[1:04:07]
We have tutors at different stages, but
[1:04:09]
we don't have tutors that can work with
[1:04:12]
everyone
[1:04:14]
because of budgetary considerations. So,
[1:04:17]
my next question is, out of the rich
[1:04:19]
curriculum that we have,
[1:04:22]
what are we going to be forced to cut
[1:04:25]
in order to reach these requirements
[1:04:27]
because we've had to do that before?
[1:04:30]
And I've seen other high-performing
[1:04:33]
wealthy communities
[1:04:36]
cut their curriculum
[1:04:39]
so that they could meet the requirements
[1:04:42]
under MassCore
[1:04:45]
and meet those numbers that the state's
[1:04:47]
looking for.
[1:04:51]
Our students have more to choose from
[1:04:53]
here than they do in other places.
[1:04:56]
And it's something I still am very, very
[1:04:58]
proud of.
[1:05:00]
And I will fight
[1:05:03]
against cutting our courses
[1:05:07]
to realign our staff
[1:05:09]
to be able to accommodate
[1:05:11]
these more rigorous standards which are
[1:05:14]
currently available in our program and
[1:05:17]
are there for people who want them.
[1:05:21]
And also
[1:05:23]
our numbers have been skewed by our
[1:05:26]
reporting and I would like to see how
[1:05:28]
that changes now that we have
[1:05:30]
clarification on some of this.
[1:05:34]
But this is this is an unfunded mandate with huge
[1:05:41]
consequences and ramifications down the
[1:05:43]
road.
[1:05:44]
Thank you.
[1:05:47]
» Thank you, Mrs. Dunn.
[1:05:49]
Uh
[1:05:50]
Mrs. Dunn, I I appreciate your your
[1:05:52]
passion in this because I I share it. I
[1:05:54]
want to make sure our curriculum is is
[1:05:55]
protected as well. And
[1:05:58]
I do believe that that Ms. Randall and Mrs. Finn have a plan to make sure
[1:06:03]
that some of those creative courses are
[1:06:07]
graduation requirements and that they
[1:06:09]
would meet a fourth year of math or they
[1:06:11]
would meet a fourth year of humanities
[1:06:13]
or social studies. And and to make sure
[1:06:16]
that we're doing a good job with our
[1:06:17]
program of studies to make sure that
[1:06:20]
it's not that everyone has to take a
[1:06:22]
cooker cookie cutter, everyone's going
[1:06:24]
to take biochem, physics, and that's
[1:06:26]
going to be it. We offer forensic
[1:06:27]
science. That's an amazing class.
[1:06:29]
They're working now to make sure that aligns and is a lab science and it
[1:06:33]
will count. The computer science will
[1:06:35]
count. And so, that's what we're going
[1:06:37]
to work on moving forward. We do think
[1:06:39]
we can do both. We can have our cake and
[1:06:41]
eat it, too. We can do math core, but we
[1:06:43]
can also offer a creative, holistic,
[1:06:47]
you know, very rigorous and
[1:06:50]
um
[1:06:51]
appropriate curriculum for all of our
[1:06:53]
students because it's really not about
[1:06:56]
if they don't want to choose the the
[1:06:58]
four-year pathway. It's that we want to
[1:06:59]
give them the option if down the road
[1:07:01]
they want to choose it. They don't have
[1:07:02]
to choose it now, but we want to give
[1:07:04]
them the option to choose it and that we
[1:07:06]
think that if we provide the right
[1:07:07]
courses
[1:07:09]
and and that we're flexible in what
[1:07:10]
they'll count for, and that's what we
[1:07:12]
need to do in the next program of
[1:07:13]
studies. And I think that's what our
[1:07:14]
team is committed to do uh because I
[1:07:17]
share your thought. We can't water down
[1:07:20]
our curriculum. We can't change that
[1:07:21]
That's a badge of honor. Uh I I know Ms.
[1:07:24]
Hayes is here. We have the most AP
[1:07:26]
courses to offer, and we don't want to
[1:07:28]
water that down, either. And so, what we
[1:07:30]
want to do is make sure that our courses
[1:07:32]
count for the graduation requirements so
[1:07:34]
our kids maintain those those flexible
[1:07:36]
options. And that's what we're committed
[1:07:37]
to, and that's what I know our high
[1:07:38]
school team is committed to, as well.
[1:07:39]
So, I I appreciate you continuing to
[1:07:41]
bring that up because it's important. We
[1:07:42]
can't lose that. Um and I and I think we
[1:07:45]
can do both.
[1:07:48]
» Thank you, Dr. Badalla. Ms. Millman.
[1:07:53]
» There's this saying,
[1:07:56]
"If I knew then what I know now."
[1:08:01]
And one of the things of being part of
[1:08:03]
the school committee and running for
[1:08:05]
elections as a school committee member
[1:08:09]
is the people we are working for most
[1:08:12]
don't vote
[1:08:13]
yet.
[1:08:14]
They're kids.
[1:08:17]
If I knew then what I know now, I might
[1:08:21]
have taken an added science class.
[1:08:24]
If I knew then what I know now,
[1:08:28]
I might have taken that language class.
[1:08:32]
We're not watering anything down. We're
[1:08:35]
rising up to offer more for more kids.
[1:08:40]
There's nothing
[1:08:42]
more leveling than an education to the
[1:08:46]
future of others. Nothing.
[1:08:49]
If we look directly at our statistics
[1:08:51]
and our information and our data
[1:08:53]
available for however you want to look
[1:08:56]
at it for however many years, we have to
[1:08:59]
recognize that we have some issues in
[1:09:02]
this district and we have to rise up to
[1:09:05]
meet the needs of all students.
[1:09:09]
Not leave others behind, which has been
[1:09:12]
apparent for years, unfortunately, based
[1:09:16]
on the information that is provided and
[1:09:18]
public.
[1:09:20]
I'll be more than happy to share that
[1:09:21]
with anyone and post it.
[1:09:25]
We offer amazing AP classes. I don't
[1:09:28]
think we should lose them, but I also
[1:09:30]
think we need to recognize the minimal
[1:09:32]
amount of students in percentages that
[1:09:35]
are taking those.
[1:09:36]
Where does that leave others?
[1:09:39]
We are not watering down. We are rising
[1:09:42]
up. I 100% agree about two, three, and
[1:09:47]
four on that list. There are issues and
[1:09:49]
the state is going to take their time to
[1:09:51]
figure out how they're going to do it,
[1:09:53]
but they're letting us know they're
[1:09:54]
expecting them. MassCore is not new.
[1:09:59]
It's not shiny and new. It has been
[1:10:01]
around for decades.
[1:10:05]
Boston Public Schools
[1:10:08]
grabbed on to it, provided it, has
[1:10:10]
provided, and it is public, something
[1:10:12]
else I'm more than happy to share of
[1:10:15]
what they saw when it was implemented
[1:10:18]
and the students that had been
[1:10:19]
repeatedly underperforming rose up once
[1:10:23]
they were able and knew they had to take
[1:10:26]
these classes.
[1:10:27]
If I knew then what I know now,
[1:10:32]
we are not watering anything down by
[1:10:35]
bringing this in, which is endorsed,
[1:10:37]
once again,
[1:10:39]
by our principal and guidance. This is
[1:10:41]
not a heavy lift. We're almost there.
[1:10:45]
The difference is we're going to be
[1:10:48]
there.
[1:10:49]
in advance and
[1:10:51]
we're going to offer that rigorous
[1:10:53]
education to all with creativity.
[1:10:57]
That's still in there. That does not
[1:10:59]
come out. That is still there. We have
[1:11:02]
amazing teachers in this district doing
[1:11:05]
amazing things every day. Repeatedly
[1:11:08]
when students sat in that chair
[1:11:11]
and talked to us, we heard about those
[1:11:13]
teachers. That's what they say. They
[1:11:16]
don't say I remember my science class
[1:11:17]
was good. They remember the teacher.
[1:11:19]
They remember Mr. Brenton.
[1:11:21]
I remember him when my daughter had him.
[1:11:24]
That's still going to be there. What
[1:11:27]
we're What we're doing is making sure
[1:11:29]
we're offering a quality rigorous
[1:11:32]
education for all.
[1:11:34]
And that's the plan and that is endorsed
[1:11:37]
by those in education as well as myself
[1:11:40]
for over 30 years.
[1:11:43]
That's not what this is about. This is
[1:11:45]
about what are we doing for the outcome
[1:11:47]
for our kids. We're providing at least a
[1:11:50]
bare minimum and we're going above and
[1:11:53]
beyond because we already have the AP
[1:11:56]
classes.
[1:11:57]
We're going above and beyond for the
[1:11:59]
students who may not take those AP
[1:12:02]
classes, but now will be taking the
[1:12:05]
baseline of things that have proven
[1:12:08]
for being around for a decade
[1:12:11]
to offer greater opportunity for the
[1:12:13]
future
[1:12:15]
of those students. If I knew then what I
[1:12:19]
know now.
[1:12:21]
And education is a great leveling
[1:12:24]
playing field for all to access to grow
[1:12:26]
and be further. I'm glad that our
[1:12:29]
principal of our high school and Dr.
[1:12:31]
Vidala, our superintendent endorses this
[1:12:34]
and is on board and is ready to take it
[1:12:36]
on even 1 year prior. And we're so
[1:12:39]
close. We're so close. It's not an
[1:12:41]
issue. It's not going to add anything
[1:12:43]
that's going to cost us anything. It's
[1:12:45]
not That's not where we're at. That has
[1:12:47]
already been already been determined and
[1:12:51]
spoken about when Principal Randall sat
[1:12:54]
in that seat. As Dr. Vidala has said
[1:12:57]
week after week,
[1:12:59]
we are making it so that we can give a
[1:13:02]
quality education to all and perhaps do
[1:13:04]
even what Boston did and see that we
[1:13:07]
bring up the numbers of all of our
[1:13:09]
students, all of our students. Because
[1:13:12]
if you look very carefully, which I
[1:13:14]
have,
[1:13:16]
our numbers in certain areas are
[1:13:18]
problematic.
[1:13:21]
Very problematic.
[1:13:23]
But we don't want to keep it there. We
[1:13:24]
want to make movement and we're planning
[1:13:27]
on doing that and that's a good thing.
[1:13:29]
And we have the educators right now to
[1:13:32]
do it.
[1:13:33]
They're there and they want to do it.
[1:13:35]
They're moving forward. This is on their
[1:13:37]
radar. This is not a huge change. In
[1:13:40]
fact, if I remember Ms. Finn,
[1:13:42]
the guidance, Ms. Finn had stated she
[1:13:44]
was looking carefully even at our
[1:13:46]
current freshmen, that are rising
[1:13:48]
sophomores, to see that they make they
[1:13:50]
even need it sooner than we anticipated.
[1:13:53]
That tells me we have progressive
[1:13:55]
thinking acade- academic people and
[1:13:57]
educators. We have forward-thinking
[1:14:00]
educators. We have educators that are
[1:14:02]
not sitting at these tables, but are
[1:14:04]
there with our kids and are seeing what
[1:14:06]
they're doing and recognizing it and
[1:14:08]
making sure that they have course
[1:14:11]
offerings that are going to give them
[1:14:13]
rigorous opportunities and not just
[1:14:15]
well, if you want to take that.
[1:14:18]
We're going to continue to be creative
[1:14:20]
about what we're going to make it
[1:14:22]
exciting work. It's not going to be that
[1:14:24]
oh, no, I got to sit in chemistry.
[1:14:26]
They're going to continue to make it
[1:14:28]
exciting work.
[1:14:30]
And that's what I expect and that's what
[1:14:32]
I anticipate and I'm glad we are moving
[1:14:34]
forward with this from our
[1:14:36]
superintendent and our principal and
[1:14:39]
then I'm looking forward to seeing the
[1:14:40]
difference that we make. If I knew then
[1:14:43]
what I know now,
[1:14:48]
» Thank you, Ms. Milman.
[1:14:50]
Any other comments, Mr. Amico?
[1:14:52]
>> Through the chair, if teachers
[1:14:55]
over the last 35 years knew now what
[1:14:57]
they knew then, they would have showed
[1:14:59]
up at the State House with pitchforks
[1:15:01]
when MCAS was established because that
[1:15:03]
was
[1:15:04]
ah, no big deal. Don't worry about it.
[1:15:06]
We're going to help you pay for it.
[1:15:08]
Billions of dollars have been spent and
[1:15:11]
when I started teaching in 2001, if a
[1:15:14]
kid couldn't pass MCAS,
[1:15:16]
see you later, kid. Do you know how many
[1:15:18]
kids ended up in jail, on the streets,
[1:15:23]
um
[1:15:24]
into situations that they shouldn't have
[1:15:26]
been in because the state said, "You
[1:15:28]
have to pass the test." And here we go,
[1:15:31]
25 years later, this is all nice and
[1:15:34]
shiny, but guess what? It's coming
[1:15:37]
again. And all I have to know is I've
[1:15:39]
only been teaching for 25 years in the
[1:15:41]
classroom, but I looked over to Ms.
[1:15:43]
Hague when Ms. when through the chair
[1:15:45]
when Ms. Dunn was speaking, and 50-plus
[1:15:48]
years, 25 years in the classroom, you
[1:15:51]
know how much time that is? That's a lot
[1:15:53]
of time. 52 years, I'll look at her
[1:15:56]
every single time when she's nodding her
[1:15:58]
head. I'll go by you. In fact, through
[1:16:00]
the chair to Ms. Hague, when when budget
[1:16:03]
comes up, I will never support an AP
[1:16:06]
class being cut even if there's one
[1:16:07]
student in that class, Dr. Abdalla, do
[1:16:10]
not bring it to this table. It will not
[1:16:13]
be cut because one of the great things
[1:16:15]
that we have in Peabody is our AP
[1:16:18]
programs. Okay? And we heard from our students earlier, drama, music, and
[1:16:24]
the arts. Okay, those are the two things
[1:16:27]
that drive Peabody. That's what people
[1:16:29]
talk about when they talk about Peabody
[1:16:31]
schools. And through the chair to Ms.
[1:16:33]
Milman, I just want to let you know that
[1:16:35]
Peabody was a great school system before
[1:16:37]
you came on in January and still is. The
[1:16:40]
teachers have been doing it. Miss Haig
[1:16:43]
has been doing it for 50 plus years. We
[1:16:45]
They don't need anything from us with
[1:16:48]
except for support. And if we're going
[1:16:50]
to tell the state that they can come in
[1:16:51]
here and give us whatever they want and
[1:16:53]
tell us to do whatever they want without
[1:16:55]
funding us, then our taxpayers have to
[1:16:57]
pay for that. And you were at a You were
[1:17:00]
at a budget meeting this week. You were
[1:17:01]
at two budget meetings this week. We're
[1:17:03]
looking to possibly cut
[1:17:06]
public safety in the future.
[1:17:08]
And look at our schools, we can't even
[1:17:09]
fully fund. And Dr. Vidala mentioned
[1:17:12]
that. We can't fully fund our schools.
[1:17:14]
We're not fully funded. Okay, we had to
[1:17:16]
make cuts. And we're going to make
[1:17:18]
changes according to the state, and the
[1:17:20]
state's not going to fund us. So, I'm
[1:17:22]
going to I'm going to hope that we can
[1:17:23]
find some money for that. But Miss Haig,
[1:17:26]
you're going to be getting some calls
[1:17:27]
from me every budget season moving
[1:17:29]
forward cuz I will support whatever you
[1:17:31]
want in the classroom. Thank you.
[1:17:35]
Miss Dunn?
[1:17:37]
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[1:17:40]
As I said earlier, my frustration is the
[1:17:42]
knowledge
[1:17:44]
that we are not going to have the money
[1:17:46]
we need to provide the supports
[1:17:48]
to help our struggling students.
[1:17:52]
The top students
[1:17:55]
work hard, they understand it, they do
[1:17:57]
well in school.
[1:17:59]
But we are a safety net
[1:18:01]
for many children.
[1:18:04]
And we currently are unable to provide
[1:18:08]
the supports that they need.
[1:18:12]
How are we going to pay for more
[1:18:15]
supports
[1:18:18]
to help everyone excel?
[1:18:22]
That is what I am worried about.
[1:18:26]
As Mr. Miko said, our budget didn't
[1:18:28]
cover what we need. We've heard from
[1:18:30]
people.
[1:18:32]
We've heard about the need for more
[1:18:33]
additional paraprofessionals,
[1:18:36]
additional tutors,
[1:18:38]
additional programs to help the
[1:18:40]
students.
[1:18:42]
And it all ends up coming down to money.
[1:18:46]
And I know we'll be okay if it Excuse
[1:18:48]
me, this year and probably next year.
[1:18:51]
And I know our guidance department
[1:18:53]
encourages kids to take
[1:18:55]
the more rigorous course
[1:18:58]
completions for their future.
[1:19:03]
But I am worried about the kids who are
[1:19:05]
struggling now and wondering
[1:19:08]
how will we support them
[1:19:12]
with a more rigorous curriculum? And I
[1:19:15]
do understand the thought of being able
[1:19:17]
to create classes and be creative so
[1:19:21]
that we meet the requirements
[1:19:23]
of MassCore.
[1:19:27]
But
[1:19:33]
I'll be honest, I can see the train
[1:19:34]
coming.
[1:19:35]
And I don't want to see it happen to our
[1:19:37]
district.
[1:19:40]
I don't want to see us having to cut
[1:19:43]
to be able to reach the requirements
[1:19:46]
of the graduation standards.
[1:19:49]
MassCore is fine.
[1:19:52]
We have a lot of kids who take that as
[1:19:53]
it is.
[1:19:56]
And I will be interested to see the next
[1:19:59]
round of data that we were presented
[1:20:02]
with, which we knew was incorrect.
[1:20:08]
So, basically
[1:20:11]
again
[1:20:15]
when the math works
[1:20:18]
everybody looks good.
[1:20:20]
Just like with MCAS.
[1:20:24]
You had to have
[1:20:26]
your scores come up. It was
[1:20:29]
a mathematical game.
[1:20:33]
And the pawns were our kids.
[1:20:35]
And the cost was borne by the taxpayers
[1:20:38]
and people still do not understand how
[1:20:40]
much money, in my opinion, was wasted
[1:20:44]
on the administration of that test.
[1:20:47]
I do not disagree with end-of-course
[1:20:49]
assessments.
[1:20:51]
Teachers test kids all the time. You
[1:20:53]
have to be able to measure people's
[1:20:55]
progress and find out did they
[1:20:57]
understand what I taught? Where Where do
[1:20:59]
we need to go back and help?
[1:21:02]
That I have no problem with.
[1:21:05]
And I absolutely
[1:21:07]
expect
[1:21:09]
our students to be able to achieve.
[1:21:14]
I don't want anyone to ever say,
[1:21:16]
although I know they're going to after
[1:21:18]
tonight,
[1:21:19]
that I have not got high expectations
[1:21:23]
for our students. I have the highest
[1:21:25]
expectations for our kids. I have the
[1:21:26]
highest expectations for the city and
[1:21:29]
for our schools.
[1:21:31]
And I also have the experience and
[1:21:33]
knowledge to know
[1:21:35]
that going forward, it is going to take
[1:21:38]
a massive
[1:21:40]
shift
[1:21:42]
in being able to support
[1:21:44]
every single student
[1:21:47]
to get them across the finish line.
[1:21:50]
And I am worried about the dropout rate.
[1:21:54]
Because I think it's going to go up.
[1:21:57]
Thank you.
[1:22:00]
» All right. Thank you, everyone. Mr.
[1:22:02]
Olympia?
[1:22:04]
>> Just in real quick in closing, meet uh
[1:22:07]
what meet the new boss, same as the old
[1:22:09]
boss. That's what comes to mind.
[1:22:11]
Thanks.
[1:22:14]
» Those were good points raised. Thank you
[1:22:15]
for that.
[1:22:16]
>> All right. Thank you, everyone. And I I
[1:22:18]
know that we have policies later in the
[1:22:20]
uh agenda. So,
[1:22:22]
>> if you want to bring up the graduation
[1:22:24]
policy
[1:22:25]
out of order, it's okay because um Mr.
[1:22:27]
Olympia and I met this evening. Uh, we
[1:22:30]
were bringing that policy IKF forward,
[1:22:33]
the new graduation requirements for the
[1:22:35]
consideration of the school committee.
[1:22:37]
We can hold it and take the vote at the
[1:22:40]
subcommittee appointment.
[1:22:41]
>> don't we wait Why don't we just go Why
[1:22:43]
don't we wait for subcommittee?
[1:22:44]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:22:45]
>> Thank you. Uh, so we just have one more
[1:22:47]
item. Uh,
[1:22:49]
as tomorrow's the last day of school, I
[1:22:50]
want to thank all of our teachers, uh,
[1:22:51]
for the incredible work that they've
[1:22:53]
done. Uh, it's been a long year with our
[1:22:55]
uh, our
[1:22:56]
snow days. Uh, but summer is coming and
[1:22:58]
I wanted to turn it over to Dr. Chase,
[1:23:00]
uh, to just give us an overview of some
[1:23:02]
of the wonderful summer programs that we
[1:23:04]
have going on in the schools this uh,
[1:23:05]
this summer.
[1:23:16]
» Oh, it's easier to see from here.
[1:23:18]
I may have to change.
[1:23:19]
Um, so while the school year has been a
[1:23:21]
very long one with our snow days and a
[1:23:23]
late ending to the year, uh, the
[1:23:25]
learning will still continue over the
[1:23:27]
summer. We are very fortunate to have
[1:23:29]
several programs running this summer.
[1:23:31]
Uh, the first one is an elementary
[1:23:33]
program at the Carroll School.
[1:23:36]
So, that is Springboard for grades K
[1:23:38]
through 3.
[1:23:39]
We have up to 15 students per grade
[1:23:41]
level. Um, we look at our Renaissance
[1:23:44]
Star scores. We look at the data that we
[1:23:47]
have and we identify kids that could use
[1:23:49]
some help with foundational skills over
[1:23:51]
the summer time. Springboard has been a
[1:23:53]
super popular program. The kids are
[1:23:55]
really engaged in it. The parents love
[1:23:57]
it. Uh, there's a component of family
[1:23:59]
engagement where they get to go to
[1:24:01]
workshops and help become partners in
[1:24:03]
reading with their students. We've had
[1:24:05]
lots of success stories with kids very
[1:24:08]
proudly reading to their parents for the
[1:24:09]
first time and getting really excited
[1:24:11]
about the books that Springboard offers
[1:24:13]
them. Um, that's taught by our teachers
[1:24:16]
in the district. Um, so that will be
[1:24:18]
running from July 6th through August
[1:24:22]
6th. So, it's a 5-week program, 4 days a
[1:24:23]
week, uh for a few hours each day.
[1:24:26]
We also have for the older students,
[1:24:28]
Springboard focuses on K through 3, but
[1:24:31]
our older students in current grade 4
[1:24:33]
and 5 could also use some assistance
[1:24:35]
with um our Title 1 funding and our
[1:24:37]
Title 3 funding. Again, we look at our
[1:24:39]
data. We try to make phone call after
[1:24:43]
phone call to really recruit students
[1:24:45]
that could use that help. It's a short
[1:24:47]
program of 4 weeks, a few hours a day,
[1:24:49]
but it does focus on the literacy and
[1:24:51]
math literacy skills as well.
[1:24:54]
Um for our extended school year, that's
[1:24:56]
our special education program. That's
[1:24:58]
our yearly program run by Dr. Crompton.
[1:25:01]
Um that will be happening at the Brown
[1:25:03]
School.
[1:25:04]
Um FKO is more of a summer program from
[1:25:08]
our external partners running at the
[1:25:09]
Carroll and Welch.
[1:25:12]
In the Higgins, we have summer
[1:25:13]
programming for rising 7th and 8th
[1:25:15]
graders who could use academic support.
[1:25:17]
That includes our gen ed students, um
[1:25:20]
along with um
[1:25:22]
our MLs and anyone that needs that
[1:25:24]
support as they're rising to 7th and 8th
[1:25:27]
grade and could use that bridge over the
[1:25:28]
summer time.
[1:25:30]
Um the Parks and Recreation program will
[1:25:32]
be running at four of our schools. And
[1:25:34]
then, it's nice that the hours of the
[1:25:36]
programs coincide with um Summer Eats
[1:25:39]
programming so that students can finish
[1:25:42]
up and then grab something to eat at
[1:25:44]
many of the sites throughout the city.
[1:25:47]
And with that,
[1:25:48]
questions?
[1:25:51]
» Thank you, Dr. Chase. I'll open up for
[1:25:52]
questions, Mr. Amico.
[1:25:54]
>> Mayor, Dr. Chase, thank you so much for
[1:25:56]
that um rundown on summer programs. On the
[1:26:00]
Summer Eats program, um how many days a
[1:26:03]
week are we
[1:26:04]
It's 5 days a week, and do we have it at
[1:26:06]
multiple locations?
[1:26:08]
>> Yes, so it is at the public library, uh
[1:26:11]
and then we have multiple locations
[1:26:12]
throughout the city. Anywhere we're
[1:26:13]
having a summer program, we partner with
[1:26:15]
our parks program as well. Um so, we've
[1:26:17]
really expanded that. I know that there
[1:26:19]
was a year that they did one year and I
[1:26:21]
know that was a
[1:26:22]
the bane of existence for for for many
[1:26:23]
people. So, now it's 5 days a week. It's
[1:26:26]
free for anyone ages 3 through 18 or 3
[1:26:28]
through 19 in in the city. They can come
[1:26:30]
and get a free lunch at anytime. Uh, the public
[1:26:33]
library's been wonderful with that. They
[1:26:35]
really took the lead and now we have it
[1:26:37]
partnered with our parks program and our
[1:26:38]
FKO program. All of these programs with
[1:26:41]
the exception of um, FKO and the parks
[1:26:43]
and rec program are free. Um, and so
[1:26:45]
they get a free lunch as well. And then
[1:26:47]
there's a a small fee for FKO and and
[1:26:49]
parks and rec, but they also get the
[1:26:50]
free lunch as well.
[1:26:52]
>> Thank you and I know Mr. Hawkman thanks
[1:26:54]
you cuz I know he put a lot of work into
[1:26:56]
this along with Ms. Dunn over the years
[1:26:58]
to get this to to 5 days a week. So,
[1:27:01]
thank you very much for your your help
[1:27:02]
on this. Appreciate it.
[1:27:04]
>> Thank you, Mr. Miko. Any other Mrs.
[1:27:05]
Dunn?
[1:27:06]
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[1:27:08]
Dr. Through you to Dr. Chase
[1:27:10]
and Dr. Vedala, these are all for
[1:27:12]
elementary and middle school students.
[1:27:14]
Do we have any summer programming for
[1:27:17]
high school students that need support?
[1:27:21]
>> So, not at not at this time. This is
[1:27:22]
really focusing on We have grants for
[1:27:25]
the elementary students and then that
[1:27:27]
bridge program for our middle school
[1:27:29]
students. So, that's what's funding
[1:27:31]
those younger students.
[1:27:34]
>> Okay. We We used to have summer school.
[1:27:39]
And we had to cut it.
[1:27:42]
» Thank you, Ms. Mrs. Dunn. We'll look
[1:27:43]
into that credit recovery cuz I know
[1:27:45]
that we in terms of graduation and
[1:27:47]
getting people on track, we do want to
[1:27:48]
make sure that um,
[1:27:51]
that that we have opportunities for kids
[1:27:53]
to recover credits. We do a lot during
[1:27:55]
the school year. I know we have the
[1:27:56]
eighth period and we and we do a lot,
[1:27:58]
but you know, any any opportunity we can
[1:28:00]
get for kids to recover credits is is
[1:28:01]
important.
[1:28:04]
Thank you. Mr. Bowman?
[1:28:06]
>> Just on that, I know that sometimes
[1:28:08]
credit recovery is also available online
[1:28:10]
and high school kids can do credit
[1:28:11]
recovery kind of things online. So, I'm
[1:28:14]
assuming that we offer some of that,
[1:28:15]
okay?
[1:28:16]
>> Yeah, and we still have that through the the virtual program and
[1:28:19]
through the Simon New Foundation
[1:28:21]
K12 Learning Academy. So, we do have
[1:28:23]
those licenses and we can we can do
[1:28:25]
that. So,
[1:28:27]
we'll work on on tightening that up and bringing something back to the to
[1:28:30]
everyone. So, thank you.
[1:28:31]
>> Um
[1:28:32]
just on another note in looking at this
[1:28:35]
and who knows what the weather will
[1:28:36]
bring, but just to question um
[1:28:39]
and ask the question about the
[1:28:40]
facilities. I know that these are
[1:28:42]
buildings that air conditioning
[1:28:44]
has been looked at and is going through.
[1:28:47]
I know there have been some ups and
[1:28:48]
downs and I think anytime we have a
[1:28:50]
season change, we're going to find out
[1:28:52]
what is and isn't working, but um are
[1:28:54]
all of those programs currently in
[1:28:55]
buildings that have been prepared for
[1:28:58]
that?
[1:28:58]
>> Yes, they are. Thank you. Um and we also
[1:29:01]
are doing some roof projects
[1:29:02]
and the facilities team has been
[1:29:04]
phenomenal. So,
[1:29:05]
we'll work with them over the summer and
[1:29:07]
we'll provide a comprehensive list of of
[1:29:09]
what they did. Um and and we'll we'll
[1:29:11]
talk about how we're planning for the
[1:29:12]
year. I know we've talked about having
[1:29:13]
some of those benchmarks and Mrs. Dunn
[1:29:15]
has has mentioned, you know, putting
[1:29:17]
together a plan and and a report from
[1:29:20]
our facilities department. So, we'll get
[1:29:22]
that together for the summer and be able
[1:29:23]
to report that out. They They do a lot
[1:29:24]
of work over the summer. So, we're we're
[1:29:26]
excited about that.
[1:29:30]
» And I think I think everybody knows or
[1:29:31]
may know that we have three roof
[1:29:33]
projects set
[1:29:35]
for this summer, approved by school
[1:29:37]
committee, approved by city council for
[1:29:39]
funding. Uh the South School, the West
[1:29:41]
School, and the Center School. So, I'll
[1:29:44]
keep people updated on that.
[1:29:46]
I think we have a building and grounds
[1:29:48]
committee meeting coming up which we can
[1:29:49]
get more detail. Um but I'm really
[1:29:51]
pleased that we've been able to move
[1:29:52]
forward with those projects. So,
[1:29:54]
we'll keep people updated on those.
[1:29:58]
>> All right, thank you, Dr. Jason. Any
[1:29:59]
other items?
[1:30:00]
>> That That concludes the superintendent's
[1:30:02]
report and we completed public
[1:30:04]
participation, so
[1:30:07]
>> Okay, thank you, Dr. Vidala. We'll go to
[1:30:08]
written communications. We do have one
[1:30:09]
item, the final report of the Statewide
[1:30:12]
Graduation Council. I'd open up that for
[1:30:15]
receipt, and if there's any comments or
[1:30:17]
questions.
[1:30:18]
>> Motion received.
[1:30:20]
>> Further motion by Mrs. Dunn for uh
[1:30:22]
receiving the final report of the
[1:30:24]
Statewide Graduation Council, seconded
[1:30:26]
by Mr. Olimpio.
[1:30:27]
All in favor of a receipt, that's a
[1:30:29]
unanimous vote.
[1:30:31]
All right, next we'll go to subcommittee
[1:30:33]
reports, and let's run through the list.
[1:30:35]
Uh education.
[1:30:37]
Mr. Miko.
[1:30:38]
>> Mr. Chair, thank you. Uh
[1:30:40]
I almost called you Dr. Mr. Mayor. Um
[1:30:43]
we had a um really nice ceremony uh
[1:30:46]
earlier today to recognize our retiring
[1:30:48]
teachers.
[1:30:50]
Thank you so much for all your time and and how many people you've shaped over the years, including
[1:30:58]
our uh honorable mayor. Um
[1:31:01]
and um just just thank you so much to
[1:31:04]
you and all your colleagues over the
[1:31:06]
years. Um I've only been doing my end
[1:31:08]
for 25 years. I uh
[1:31:11]
it's it's it's an awesome experience. It's an
[1:31:15]
awesome profession,
[1:31:16]
but we need
[1:31:18]
people to support us. We need everyone
[1:31:21]
to support teachers. I know it's you
[1:31:23]
know, it's it's overstated, but
[1:31:26]
the stakes are way too high. The money's
[1:31:28]
not there. Society is changing.
[1:31:33]
Um not for the good in many cases, so uh
[1:31:36]
we need a ton of support in education.
[1:31:38]
So, I just want to uh just put that out
[1:31:40]
there that um
[1:31:41]
again, thank you to all our teachers,
[1:31:43]
all our staff here in Peabody Public
[1:31:44]
Schools. My kids came through here and
[1:31:47]
got an incredible education, and um just
[1:31:50]
met so many great people. So, this is a
[1:31:52]
great city.
[1:31:53]
Um you know, I've said it before, we've
[1:31:55]
got about 10 or 15 people in the city
[1:31:57]
who dislike the city, and you know, for
[1:32:00]
whatever reason, love to take shots at
[1:32:02]
us and the things that we're doing.
[1:32:03]
a lot of great things. We're
[1:32:05]
not perfect. We never will be.
[1:32:07]
But, um we just need that support and uh
[1:32:10]
we need that money. So,
[1:32:11]
to our state officials, to our feds,
[1:32:13]
keep it coming. The stakes are way too
[1:32:15]
high. Thank you.
[1:32:17]
>> Thank you, Mr. Amico.
[1:32:19]
Finance subcommittee, Mr. Amico?
[1:32:21]
>> Uh nothing new to report.
[1:32:22]
>> School safety subcommittee,
[1:32:24]
>> Um yes, so
[1:32:26]
uh so PBD uh the safety task force
[1:32:28]
received an award. I'd like to maybe
[1:32:30]
turn that over to Dr. Bedell or Ms. Dunn
[1:32:32]
if they have anything to add to that.
[1:32:37]
» Uh yeah, so I I I I do believe this is a
[1:32:39]
leftover one from last last meeting. Uh
[1:32:41]
but, we did have Maria Sherry here uh at
[1:32:43]
the last meeting. And what is exciting I I like to just build off of it a
[1:32:47]
little bit. Uh they did receive the Safe
[1:32:49]
Routes to School Community Collaboration
[1:32:50]
Award, uh which was wonderful, the
[1:32:52]
safety task force for the bus arm stop.
[1:32:55]
And uh so, the the the stop passing
[1:32:58]
uh
[1:32:58]
the the bus when the arm is out. And
[1:33:01]
they did an unbelievable job and were
[1:33:03]
able to get legislation changed. So,
[1:33:04]
their next task that they're that
[1:33:06]
they're willing to take on is uh e-bikes
[1:33:08]
and e-bike safety. Uh and so, that's
[1:33:10]
very important for our community. We see
[1:33:12]
a lot of kids out there and we just want
[1:33:13]
to make sure that there's education and
[1:33:15]
awareness and safety for our for our
[1:33:17]
students. Our police department's done a
[1:33:18]
wonderful job uh you know, getting bike
[1:33:21]
helmets out there and working with kids.
[1:33:23]
But, uh we're seeing uh e-bikes are are
[1:33:25]
picking up more speed and and becoming
[1:33:27]
more dangerous. So, that is the next
[1:33:29]
step uh for the safety task force. So,
[1:33:31]
uh thank you, Mr. Amico.
[1:33:34]
>> That is all.
[1:33:36]
Thank you.
[1:33:38]
Oh, Ms. Millman?
[1:33:40]
>> I know that um
[1:33:41]
I believe somebody was going to give an
[1:33:43]
update about the cameras on the buses.
[1:33:47]
>> So, happy to give an update as to where
[1:33:49]
we stand now. We have signed a contract
[1:33:52]
with Bus Patrol, which was the provider
[1:33:54]
uh of the um work we did
[1:33:58]
um, last year,
[1:34:00]
gathering the data in order to put
[1:34:02]
forward to the state, and thankfully the
[1:34:04]
state,
[1:34:05]
um, adopted, uh, this law, uh, last
[1:34:08]
January. So, um,
[1:34:10]
we would be with a second city in the
[1:34:12]
state, uh, behind Chicopee,
[1:34:14]
uh, to sign a contract with the
[1:34:16]
provider. Uh, the intention is to start
[1:34:19]
uh, with our own fleet right now. Um,
[1:34:23]
the 10 or so buses that we have,
[1:34:26]
and then we're going to be bringing in
[1:34:27]
Healey. Healey's been terrific, they've
[1:34:28]
been working with us, and the hope is to
[1:34:31]
have a, uh,
[1:34:32]
large number, we won't have every bus
[1:34:34]
ready to go, uh, but a large number of
[1:34:36]
buses set for September 1st or the start
[1:34:39]
of the new school year. So, um,
[1:34:41]
uh, they're working on a little bit of
[1:34:43]
logistics with the police department,
[1:34:45]
and, um, the process there, and, uh, but
[1:34:49]
it will be collection of any fines that
[1:34:52]
will run through the city, and then bus
[1:34:54]
patrol will get a percentage of those
[1:34:56]
fines, so there's no money up front, uh,
[1:34:58]
installation cost, everything is is done
[1:35:00]
through bus patrol, so, um, really
[1:35:03]
excited. I don't have a number yet as to
[1:35:05]
how much, how many of the buses we will
[1:35:07]
have ready to go, um, but we are the
[1:35:11]
second city in the state to do that,
[1:35:12]
and, uh, of all cities, Chicopee was
[1:35:15]
beat us.
[1:35:16]
Don't know how they got ahead of us,
[1:35:17]
but, um,
[1:35:19]
but I'll keep people updated. Thank you
[1:35:21]
for bringing that up.
[1:35:22]
Chicopee.
[1:35:23]
is that even a real city?
[1:35:26]
>> No, watch out.
[1:35:28]
Um,
[1:35:31]
» [laughter]
[1:35:35]
» I
[1:35:40]
Two things on that point, Mr. Mayor. I
[1:35:42]
think Chicopee used some of our data in
[1:35:45]
order to to, um,
[1:35:47]
speak about getting involved in in the,
[1:35:50]
uh, bus zone the cameras.
[1:35:53]
And because of the data that was shown
[1:35:56]
in Peabody by the use of those cameras,
[1:35:59]
it was so compelling that many many
[1:36:03]
communities in Massachusetts and others
[1:36:05]
across the country are using the data
[1:36:09]
from our incidents
[1:36:11]
to show the necessity for their
[1:36:13]
community to participate in that kind of
[1:36:15]
program.
[1:36:16]
And it really is
[1:36:18]
much more far-reaching than we realize.
[1:36:22]
So,
[1:36:23]
Peabody really did something very very
[1:36:25]
spectacular in getting this rolling and
[1:36:28]
uh
[1:36:29]
it's nice to see that. And I will check
[1:36:31]
and see. I think Chicopee used our
[1:36:33]
numbers.
[1:36:34]
>> I think you're right and and I I uh
[1:36:36]
Chicopee we actually work with Chicopee.
[1:36:39]
Uh they exchange information with us, we
[1:36:41]
with them. Uh I want to credit Dan
[1:36:43]
Doucette, Sam Rippin. Um
[1:36:46]
and uh yeah, I just didn't like how they got ahead of us and got the first
[1:36:50]
one, but um but a number of communities
[1:36:53]
now uh or over the last couple of months
[1:36:55]
have been reaching out to us. Uh we did
[1:36:57]
have an interview process. We were other
[1:36:59]
contenders that also provided good
[1:37:01]
programs, but we felt that bus patrol,
[1:37:03]
based on some of the familiarity we had
[1:37:05]
with them, but also about their product
[1:37:07]
uh was really top-notch. So, uh I'll
[1:37:09]
keep everybody updated, but we should
[1:37:10]
have a number of buses in the city set
[1:37:12]
to go
[1:37:13]
uh with routes uh set uh for the
[1:37:16]
beginning of the new school year.
[1:37:18]
>> Plus, it changed the law. Convinced the
[1:37:20]
legislature to change the law to allow
[1:37:23]
the camera evidence to be used.
[1:37:25]
>> Oh, yeah. No, we That was us. That was
[1:37:27]
the city of Peabody.
[1:37:28]
>> That was, so
[1:37:29]
good work.
[1:37:30]
>> All right. Thank you.
[1:37:31]
Athletics and health subcommittee. It's
[1:37:34]
Mayor through the chair to Dr. Vidala.
[1:37:36]
Um
[1:37:37]
we have to prepare for next year. Um
[1:37:40]
as much as this would pain me to to do
[1:37:42]
any or make any cuts that are in
[1:37:44]
athletics, but could we get some data on
[1:37:47]
our um all our sports programs at the
[1:37:50]
high school and to see what the
[1:37:51]
subscription is, how many players are
[1:37:53]
playing, cuz if we do have some sports
[1:37:54]
that are under subscribed, we may uh
[1:37:57]
we may have to look into those uh next
[1:37:59]
year.
[1:38:00]
>> Thank you. Yeah, we we did actually just
[1:38:01]
pull that information. Uh so, that it
[1:38:03]
it's it's a very timely topic. Um I
[1:38:05]
believe
[1:38:07]
So, we're at the end of this school
[1:38:09]
year, call it FY school year 26. In
[1:38:11]
school year 25, I think we had 1,075.
[1:38:14]
Uh
[1:38:16]
We just We just pulled it up. And I I
[1:38:17]
think it was
[1:38:19]
A- And now I I think we went down
[1:38:21]
slightly.
[1:38:22]
Uh
[1:38:24]
But, I I believe
[1:38:28]
Yep, I think we we had Yes, there it is.
[1:38:31]
Um we had
[1:38:34]
I'm sorry. Yep, so we went from um
[1:38:37]
1038
[1:38:39]
to 975. So, we did see a drop, uh but
[1:38:42]
not a significant drop. We still have
[1:38:43]
the same number of sports. We do have
[1:38:45]
some co-op programs now, uh but it is
[1:38:48]
something we're looking at. We currently
[1:38:49]
will have the same number of coaches,
[1:38:50]
but it is something we want to monitor.
[1:38:52]
Some of our sports are smaller. We do
[1:38:53]
have a couple that have increased. Uh
[1:38:55]
track is very vibrant. Um and so, they
[1:38:57]
have they do have um higher
[1:38:58]
participation numbers. But, I'll share
[1:39:00]
uh the the whole spreadsheet with the committee. Thank you.
[1:39:03]
>> Sure.
[1:39:09]
Thank you. Uh Quality and Standards, I
[1:39:11]
know we have a number of items. Mrs.
[1:39:12]
Dunn, I'll turn it over to you.
[1:39:13]
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um
[1:39:15]
Excuse [clears throat] me. Quality and
[1:39:16]
Standards Subcommittee meeting was uh
[1:39:19]
this evening prior to the regularly
[1:39:21]
scheduled meeting. Mr. Olympio and I
[1:39:23]
went through the policies, and um I'm
[1:39:26]
going to go through the policies that we
[1:39:29]
had already presented, which are
[1:39:30]
definitely all up for second reading
[1:39:32]
this evening. So, if I can.
[1:39:35]
The
[1:39:36]
first policy for second reading is J And
[1:39:39]
just so everyone knows, there there were
[1:39:41]
no changes or or
[1:39:43]
uh
[1:39:44]
no changes to any of these policies.
[1:39:47]
They're the same as they were at the
[1:39:48]
last meeting. So, the first policy for
[1:39:50]
your approval I'd like to make a motion
[1:39:52]
that the committee approve policy JICFB,
[1:39:56]
the anti-bullying policy.
[1:39:58]
So moved.
[1:40:00]
For a second reading, sorry.
[1:40:01]
>> Second.
[1:40:02]
>> Heard the motion by Mrs. Dunn for
[1:40:04]
adoption of the anti-bullying policy,
[1:40:06]
seconded by Mr. Olympio.
[1:40:09]
Seeing no comments, roll call vote for
[1:40:10]
approval, please.
[1:40:12]
>> Mrs. Dunn.
[1:40:12]
>> Yes.
[1:40:13]
>> Mr. Olympio.
[1:40:14]
>> Yes.
[1:40:14]
>> Ms. Nolan.
[1:40:15]
>> Yes.
[1:40:15]
>> Mrs. Cox.
[1:40:16]
>> Yes.
[1:40:16]
>> Mr. Amico.
[1:40:17]
>> Yes.
[1:40:18]
>> Okay, thank you. The next policy for a
[1:40:21]
second reading
[1:40:22]
is ECAB, access to buildings and
[1:40:25]
grounds. I'd like to make a motion that
[1:40:27]
the committee approve for second reading
[1:40:30]
policy ECAB, access to building and
[1:40:33]
grounds. So moved.
[1:40:35]
>> Second.
[1:40:36]
>> Thank you. You've heard the motion made
[1:40:37]
by Mrs. Dunn
[1:40:39]
uh for the adoption of the access to
[1:40:40]
building and grounds, seconded by Mr.
[1:40:42]
Olympio.
[1:40:43]
Roll call vote, please.
[1:40:45]
>> Mrs. Dunn.
[1:40:45]
>> Yes.
[1:40:46]
>> Mr. Olympio.
[1:40:46]
>> Yes.
[1:40:47]
>> Ms. Nolan.
[1:40:48]
>> Yes.
[1:40:49]
>> Mrs. Cox.
[1:40:49]
>> Yes.
[1:40:50]
>> Mr. Amico.
[1:40:50]
>> Yes.
[1:40:52]
>> Thank you. The next policy bringing
[1:40:54]
forward for a second reading is policy
[1:40:57]
EEAEA,
[1:40:59]
bus driver examination training. I would
[1:41:01]
like to make a motion the policy EEAEA
[1:41:06]
be approved for second reading. So
[1:41:08]
moved.
[1:41:09]
>> Second.
[1:41:10]
>> Thank you. You've heard the motion by
[1:41:12]
Mrs. Dunn for approval of the bus driver
[1:41:13]
examination training policy seconded by
[1:41:16]
Mr. Olympio.
[1:41:17]
Roll call vote, please.
[1:41:19]
>> Mrs. Dunn.
[1:41:19]
>> Yes.
[1:41:20]
>> Mr. Olympio.
[1:41:20]
>> Yes.
[1:41:21]
>> Ms. Nolan.
[1:41:22]
>> Yes.
[1:41:22]
>> Mrs. Cox.
[1:41:24]
>> Yes.
[1:41:24]
>> Mr. Amico.
[1:41:25]
>> Yes.
[1:41:27]
» Thank you.
[1:41:28]
The next policy for a second reading is
[1:41:31]
policy JFBB,
[1:41:33]
school choice. So, I'd like to bring
[1:41:36]
that forward for a second reading. So
[1:41:38]
moved.
[1:41:39]
>> Second.
[1:41:41]
>> Thank you for the motion uh for adoption
[1:41:44]
uh of the school choice policy made by
[1:41:47]
Mrs. Dunn, seconded by Mr. Olimpio. Roll
[1:41:49]
call vote, please.
[1:41:50]
>> Mrs. Dunn.
[1:41:51]
>> Yes.
[1:41:51]
>> Mr. Olimpio.
[1:41:52]
>> Yes.
[1:41:52]
>> Ms. Melman.
[1:41:53]
>> Yes.
[1:41:54]
>> Mrs. Cox.
[1:41:54]
>> Yes.
[1:41:55]
>> Mr. Amico.
[1:41:56]
>> Yes.
[1:41:57]
>> Thank you.
[1:41:58]
Next policy is policy KBG, parent
[1:42:01]
advisory councils. I would like to bring
[1:42:03]
forward policy KBG for a second reading.
[1:42:06]
So moved.
[1:42:07]
>> Second.
[1:42:10]
>> Thank you for the motion by Mrs. Dunn
[1:42:11]
for approval of the parent advisory
[1:42:13]
councils policy, seconded by Mr.
[1:42:15]
Olimpio.
[1:42:16]
Roll call vote, please.
[1:42:17]
>> Mrs. Dunn.
[1:42:18]
>> Yes.
[1:42:18]
>> Mr. Olimpio.
[1:42:19]
>> Yes.
[1:42:19]
>> Ms. Melman.
[1:42:20]
>> Yes.
[1:42:21]
>> Mrs. Cox.
[1:42:22]
>> Yes.
[1:42:22]
>> Mr. Amico.
[1:42:23]
>> Yes.
[1:42:25]
>> Thank you. Next policy is policy JLCD,
[1:42:29]
administration of medication to
[1:42:31]
students. I would like to bring forward
[1:42:34]
policy JLCD for a second reading. So
[1:42:37]
moved.
[1:42:38]
>> Second.
[1:42:39]
>> Thank you for the motion made by Mrs.
[1:42:41]
Dunn for approval of the administration
[1:42:43]
of medication to students policy,
[1:42:45]
seconded by Mr. Olimpio. Roll call vote,
[1:42:47]
please.
[1:42:48]
>> Mrs. Dunn.
[1:42:48]
>> Yes.
[1:42:49]
>> Mr. Olimpio.
[1:42:50]
>> Yes.
[1:42:50]
>> Ms. Melman.
[1:42:51]
>> Yes.
[1:42:51]
>> Mrs. Cox.
[1:42:52]
>> Yes.
[1:42:53]
>> Mr. Amico.
[1:42:53]
>> Yes.
[1:42:55]
>> Thank you. And then
[1:42:56]
policy JLCDC,
[1:42:59]
self-administration and self-carry of
[1:43:01]
medications.
[1:43:02]
I would like to bring forward policy
[1:43:04]
JLCDC for a second reading.
[1:43:08]
>> Second.
[1:43:10]
>> Thank you for the motion by Mrs. Dunn
[1:43:11]
for approval of the policy
[1:43:13]
self-administration and self-carry of
[1:43:14]
medication, seconded by Mr. Olimpio.
[1:43:17]
Roll call vote, please.
[1:43:18]
>> Mrs. Dunn.
[1:43:20]
>> Yes.
[1:43:20]
>> Mr. Olimpio.
[1:43:21]
>> Yes.
[1:43:21]
>> Ms. Melman.
[1:43:22]
>> Yes.
[1:43:22]
>> Mrs. Cox.
[1:43:23]
>> Yes.
[1:43:23]
>> Mr. Amico.
[1:43:24]
>> Yes.
[1:43:26]
>> Thank you.
[1:43:27]
Now, the policies that we would dis-
[1:43:29]
that we discussed this evening for a
[1:43:32]
first reading
[1:43:34]
are policies IKF, graduation
[1:43:37]
requirements, policy JKAA,
[1:43:40]
which is a policy regarding the um
[1:43:44]
time out, seclusion, and physical
[1:43:46]
restraint of students,
[1:43:48]
and policy BDE, subcommittees of the
[1:43:50]
school committee.
[1:43:53]
So, this evening, after discussion and
[1:43:55]
vote, we have brought forward for your
[1:43:58]
approval for first reading
[1:44:00]
policy IKF, graduation requirements.
[1:44:05]
So, I would like to make a motion that be approved for first reading.
[1:44:09]
>> So moved.
[1:44:10]
>> Second.
[1:44:11]
>> Thank you. Further motion by Mrs. Dunn
[1:44:13]
for approval of the graduation
[1:44:14]
requirements policy, seconded by Mr.
[1:44:16]
Olimpio.
[1:44:18]
Roll call vote, please.
[1:44:20]
>> Mrs. Dunn.
[1:44:21]
>> No.
[1:44:22]
>> Mr. Olimpio.
[1:44:23]
>> No.
[1:44:24]
>> Ms. Noman.
[1:44:25]
>> Yes.
[1:44:27]
>> Mrs. Cox. Yes.
[1:44:28]
>> Mr. Amico.
[1:44:29]
>> No.
[1:44:31]
>> Okay.
[1:44:34]
The next policy is policy JKAA,
[1:44:39]
and I will let you know we have
[1:44:42]
a policy that was provided to us by Ms.
[1:44:45]
Compton.
[1:44:46]
I don't know if that was in our
[1:44:50]
packet
[1:44:52]
or if the
[1:44:54]
state issued
[1:44:57]
policy was in our packet.
[1:45:05]
The one from Ms. Compton
[1:45:07]
is much much shorter than the one from
[1:45:12]
MASC.
[1:45:14]
And
[1:45:15]
having spoken with Ms. Compton,
[1:45:19]
she explained that the policy she has
[1:45:21]
provided to us, for one thing, it is
[1:45:23]
much more it is much clearer than the
[1:45:25]
policy that came from the state.
[1:45:28]
And I can tell you that there is
[1:45:30]
discussion at MASC concerning the policy
[1:45:33]
that they sent out because um there was
[1:45:36]
quite a bit of confusion among school
[1:45:39]
districts that was reported back to the
[1:45:41]
DESC. And there is some work that needs
[1:45:44]
to be done on the language in the policy
[1:45:47]
that came out from the state.
[1:45:50]
Now, the difficulty with this is this
[1:45:52]
policy needs to be approved
[1:45:55]
by August 17th, so it does need to be in
[1:45:59]
place.
[1:46:01]
Um
[1:46:05]
The the policy that Ms. Crompton gave is actually very thorough.
[1:46:11]
And it's two pages.
[1:46:14]
Did you receive that one?
[1:46:16]
Okay.
[1:46:17]
So, I think that what we what we need to
[1:46:19]
do is hold off so that members can
[1:46:22]
review it.
[1:46:25]
We will be having meetings during the
[1:46:26]
summer
[1:46:27]
for policy.
[1:46:28]
July, we always have subcommittee
[1:46:30]
meetings.
[1:46:31]
And um at that time we can bring it
[1:46:33]
forward.
[1:46:34]
Um unless members would like to approve
[1:46:37]
the current policy JKAI,
[1:46:40]
I'm sorry, JKAA.
[1:46:42]
Um
[1:46:44]
it is actually undergoing review
[1:46:48]
before it gets implemented, but we're
[1:46:50]
under that time frame.
[1:46:52]
Um I would hope that we could have a
[1:46:54]
meeting in August prior to August 17th
[1:46:56]
to be able to put something in place.
[1:46:59]
We are
[1:47:01]
in good hands. Ms. Crompton has met with the attorney.
[1:47:06]
He is the one who has been preparing
[1:47:08]
this these materials. I saw the um
[1:47:12]
the the the the procedures, the manual
[1:47:15]
that goes along with this, which
[1:47:17]
committee doesn't approve, but it's
[1:47:19]
really very very well done.
[1:47:22]
And um
[1:47:24]
I think we can work through this and be
[1:47:25]
able to have this in place in time
[1:47:27]
without worry. Dr. Pelino?
[1:47:29]
>> So, I know um
[1:47:31]
Ms. Magarelli sent a 33-page document, a
[1:47:34]
PDF to everyone. It included both
[1:47:36]
policies.
[1:47:37]
And so, I I do believe this was in your
[1:47:39]
email. I'm not sure if it was in the
[1:47:40]
packet. Um but so, on page
[1:47:44]
29 out of 33, what I'm presenting here,
[1:47:47]
this is the two-page policy that uh Ms.
[1:47:50]
the Dr. Compton has worked on. Uh and
[1:47:52]
it's it's a very comprehensive policy.
[1:47:55]
If everybody has seen this one, uh and
[1:47:57]
it it is paired with a 50-page
[1:48:02]
manual about timeout and seclusion. Um
[1:48:05]
so,
[1:48:06]
this this is what I believe the
[1:48:08]
committee has. Um and and so,
[1:48:11]
this is the the policy
[1:48:14]
uh
[1:48:14]
that that you were looking at.
[1:48:16]
>> Yes, and that's the one that um
[1:48:18]
this is the one that Mr. Olimpio and I
[1:48:22]
would like to bring forward this evening
[1:48:25]
for a first reading.
[1:48:28]
>> Yeah, and so, I think that the challenge
[1:48:29]
with the six-page document is
[1:48:31]
it tried to put in a lot of the
[1:48:33]
implementation plan in it and it got
[1:48:36]
very confusing. And so, what a lot of
[1:48:38]
districts have done is they adopt this
[1:48:41]
language here and they pair it with a
[1:48:43]
50-page document with all the
[1:48:46]
um the forms that you fill out and all
[1:48:48]
of that. And it's it's it's very
[1:48:49]
comprehensive but it includes all the
[1:48:50]
training. So, we have both of those
[1:48:52]
documents. This here that is being
[1:48:54]
projected is the policy that we would
[1:48:56]
endorse. And that is policy JKAA timeout
[1:49:00]
and seclusion.
[1:49:01]
>> And the one on the screen is the one we
[1:49:04]
would bring forward and I'm happy to
[1:49:05]
make that motion that this be um
[1:49:08]
brought forward for first reading.
[1:49:11]
>> So moved.
[1:49:13]
» Second.
[1:49:17]
» Thank you. Further motion by Mrs. Dunn,
[1:49:19]
seconded by Mr. Miko. Let's open that up
[1:49:21]
for discussion. Ms. Millman?
[1:49:23]
>> Um I first would like to ask Ms. Dunn,
[1:49:25]
is this the one that um Attorney Joyce
[1:49:27]
did look look at, the one that was
[1:49:28]
prompting? Because I know that this is a
[1:49:31]
big This is This is significant. This is
[1:49:33]
a regulation that goes into place in
[1:49:35]
August. There's lots of history behind
[1:49:37]
this. There's an MCLE and Mass Legal Ed
[1:49:40]
whole thing that's being done, which
[1:49:41]
Michael actually was a co-chair of. Um
[1:49:44]
Attorney Joyce was a co-chair of, so um
[1:49:47]
I it it is very complex. Um and knowing
[1:49:50]
that he's
[1:49:51]
been part of this, I think is incredibly
[1:49:53]
helpful and important to know. I do
[1:49:55]
think there may be some more coming from
[1:49:57]
this, as you said, Ms. Dunn. I do don't
[1:49:59]
I don't think this is finished, but
[1:50:01]
because we have to have something in
[1:50:03]
place, because the reg by regulation of
[1:50:06]
by August, I think it's 17th, I think
[1:50:08]
it's very important that we do move
[1:50:10]
forward with something.
[1:50:12]
>> And I will also tell you
[1:50:14]
and I wish he wanted a copy.
[1:50:17]
>> Yes, this this is excellent. I would
[1:50:18]
endorse this in and if we were to adopt
[1:50:21]
this as a first reading tonight, we
[1:50:22]
could we do the second reading at the
[1:50:25]
next scheduled meeting on on August 13th
[1:50:28]
at the latest and it still meets the
[1:50:29]
deadline. So
[1:50:30]
>> Exactly.
[1:50:30]
>> So
[1:50:31]
I know I know there may be some meetings
[1:50:32]
in July or whatever the plan is, but
[1:50:35]
regardless of that, if we do a first
[1:50:37]
reading tonight, we have the option to
[1:50:38]
do August 13th and and we meet we meet
[1:50:41]
the August 17th deadline.
[1:50:42]
>> Thank you and that was our hope as well.
[1:50:45]
>> Good. Thank you for that.
[1:50:46]
Anybody else have any comments on this
[1:50:48]
item?
[1:50:49]
Okay. Roll call vote, please.
[1:50:52]
>> Mrs. Dunn?
[1:50:52]
>> Yes.
[1:50:53]
>> Mr. Olympia?
[1:50:53]
>> Yes.
[1:50:54]
>> Ms. Millman?
[1:50:55]
>> Yes.
[1:50:55]
>> Mrs. Cox?
[1:50:56]
>> Yes.
[1:50:56]
>> Mr. Miko?
[1:50:57]
>> Yes.
[1:50:59]
>> Okay.
[1:51:01]
Thank you. Policy BDE, subcommittees of
[1:51:04]
the school committee. This was a policy
[1:51:06]
that was
[1:51:08]
brought up at the last meeting and
[1:51:10]
referred to subcommittee on quality and
[1:51:12]
standards.
[1:51:14]
I can let all of you know that the
[1:51:15]
subcommittee on quality and standards is
[1:51:17]
actually meeting with the MASC staff to
[1:51:20]
review and update all of our policies.
[1:51:23]
Presently, they are reviewing policy
[1:51:27]
section A and section B.
[1:51:29]
Then they're going to move on to C and
[1:51:31]
D.
[1:51:32]
This is going to take place throughout
[1:51:33]
the summer and our hope is to finish by
[1:51:37]
the beginning of the year, but it does
[1:51:38]
depend on a lot of different variables.
[1:51:41]
However, what we would like to do is
[1:51:43]
just to forward this policy along with
[1:51:47]
all
[1:51:48]
of the other section B.
[1:51:51]
And we will be approving the school
[1:51:53]
committee will be approving
[1:51:56]
or reapproving
[1:51:58]
and reauthorizing all of our policies
[1:52:00]
once they come back to us, and we will
[1:52:02]
again be doing that in stages.
[1:52:05]
So, the recommendation was just to be
[1:52:07]
able to send this to MASC, put it with
[1:52:09]
section B. We should be getting section
[1:52:11]
B back soon, and we'll be approving all
[1:52:12]
of section B.
[1:52:16]
So, there's no action to
[1:52:18]
>> No action on that item. Thank you.
[1:52:20]
All right. Well, thank you, Mrs. Dunn.
[1:52:22]
Appreciate your work.
[1:52:24]
Uh next is Oh, sorry. Dr. Cox.
[1:52:30]
» Just a quick question. Looking at it, um
[1:52:33]
we have the
[1:52:35]
um athletics and
[1:52:37]
wellness on this. Did we want to change
[1:52:40]
that to the athletics and health before
[1:52:41]
we send it?
[1:52:43]
>> It It would be It would be changed when
[1:52:45]
we send it in. They'll be They'll be all
[1:52:46]
kinds of work done. Yeah.
[1:52:49]
>> Perfect.
[1:52:50]
>> So, it will be athletics and health
[1:52:51]
that's sent over the MASC.
[1:52:53]
Okay. Good. Thank you.
[1:52:56]
All right. Next item, building and
[1:52:57]
grounds.
[1:52:59]
>> Oh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. We are
[1:53:01]
having a building and grounds
[1:53:02]
subcommittee meeting on June 30th, next
[1:53:04]
Tuesday night at 6:00 p.m., and our
[1:53:07]
guest will be Jim Politanos, the
[1:53:09]
director of facilities. What we are
[1:53:11]
going to do at that meeting is go
[1:53:13]
through um a review of where we are now
[1:53:16]
with our buildings, but more so a
[1:53:19]
discussion on the plan for the summer.
[1:53:22]
We know there's a lot of very specific
[1:53:24]
work that takes place over the summer
[1:53:26]
for maintenance and a lot of different
[1:53:28]
repairs that take place once the
[1:53:29]
students are and teachers are out of the
[1:53:31]
building. So, that's what Mr. Politanos
[1:53:33]
will be speaking with us about. He'll
[1:53:35]
also address special projects, as
[1:53:38]
always. He'll be talking about the roof
[1:53:40]
projects. We will probably get into a
[1:53:42]
discussion of security, which at that
[1:53:45]
point it may require an executive
[1:53:46]
session during that subcommittee
[1:53:48]
meeting, and we'll be prepared to do
[1:53:50]
that. I'm also going to ask um Mr. Bloom
[1:53:53]
if he could come in at that time and
[1:53:54]
give us some advice as well.
[1:53:57]
So, that will be next Thur- uh I'm
[1:53:59]
sorry, next Tuesday on June 30th. Thank
[1:54:02]
you.
[1:54:02]
>> Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Dunn.
[1:54:04]
District and organizational
[1:54:06]
subcommittee, Ms. Millman.
[1:54:12]
» So, um
[1:54:14]
we met um yesterday
[1:54:17]
um
[1:54:18]
uh as a committee, um but prior to that
[1:54:21]
um we did some background work with the
[1:54:24]
um meeting with two representatives from
[1:54:27]
the Collins Center of um
[1:54:29]
UMass Boston,
[1:54:31]
um and
[1:54:33]
um it was uh it was a great
[1:54:35]
conversation. Um
[1:54:37]
what the process that we're working on
[1:54:39]
with them, um as we talked about before,
[1:54:42]
is to do what they call an organizational review.
[1:54:47]
Um and Dr. Bedard had the opportunity to
[1:54:49]
talk to them a little bit ahead of time,
[1:54:51]
and as we move forward with that, um the
[1:54:54]
idea is uh once again, this this was
[1:54:57]
part of the district and organizational
[1:54:59]
structure and looking at what has been
[1:55:01]
often brought up.
[1:55:03]
You know, are we top heavy and that was
[1:55:05]
a piece of this and looking at the
[1:55:07]
organization in general and creating
[1:55:12]
an organizational chart. So, we gave
[1:55:14]
them some information ahead of time. We
[1:55:16]
met with them to further understand
[1:55:19]
honestly what they do and what we're
[1:55:20]
looking for
[1:55:22]
to have done
[1:55:23]
and it looks like we'll be moving
[1:55:25]
forward. It was actually they gave us a
[1:55:28]
quicker timeline than I anticipated. Um
[1:55:30]
which was October.
[1:55:32]
Yeah, October that they would have a
[1:55:34]
report
[1:55:35]
ready for us after we provide them
[1:55:37]
further information. Which will include
[1:55:39]
they will interview folks from the
[1:55:41]
school committee. I believe staffing.
[1:55:44]
They'll look at what we have currently
[1:55:46]
of
[1:55:48]
job descriptions, which is provided to
[1:55:50]
us, which has been provided as well.
[1:55:53]
We have the opportunity to
[1:55:56]
have this done and then they come back
[1:55:58]
and share with us their findings of
[1:56:01]
you know, suggestions, recommendations,
[1:56:04]
things like that. It seems to be pretty
[1:56:07]
comprehensive and informative. I think
[1:56:09]
that one of the benefits as well of
[1:56:11]
having this group do it is one of the
[1:56:13]
women that
[1:56:15]
would be cheering it I believe.
[1:56:17]
She's a former superintendent herself
[1:56:20]
and been in education and does this now.
[1:56:22]
It's kind of her passion I think as
[1:56:24]
well.
[1:56:26]
What we started with was discussing
[1:56:31]
what some of the comparisons will be.
[1:56:34]
They shared different ways that they
[1:56:35]
would make suggestions of some
[1:56:37]
comparisons. So, they would look at both
[1:56:40]
dart districts, gateway districts, based on area location,
[1:56:45]
demographics, demographics, all sorts of
[1:56:48]
things. And then
[1:56:50]
we'd narrow it down to I believe they
[1:56:52]
said
[1:56:53]
eight to 10 that we'd make some kind of
[1:56:56]
looks and comparisons at. Again, you
[1:56:58]
know, the the um report is going to
[1:57:01]
start with like the rationale and part
[1:57:03]
of that rationale was what is our
[1:57:06]
administration look like, what is our
[1:57:08]
district look like organizationally to
[1:57:11]
make it
[1:57:12]
something that we can kind of answer
[1:57:13]
that question better
[1:57:15]
for for those asking. So, I know that
[1:57:18]
there are very clear channels
[1:57:21]
in some ways and in other ways perhaps
[1:57:22]
not.
[1:57:23]
And I think that that's this is a piece
[1:57:25]
of it.
[1:57:26]
I don't know Dr. Vidala or Dr. Cox if
[1:57:29]
either of you want to add to that from
[1:57:30]
your impressions of meeting with them.
[1:57:36]
» I I thought it was great. I'm really
[1:57:37]
excited about it. I think it it will
[1:57:39]
help and
[1:57:40]
they also talked about the messaging and
[1:57:42]
the communication on it and I think that
[1:57:44]
was also very helpful. And I think that
[1:57:46]
they were very thoughtful around size of
[1:57:48]
schools, similar schools, the
[1:57:50]
comprehensive high school was a big part
[1:57:51]
of it to make sure that we're looking at
[1:57:53]
other districts that also have
[1:57:54]
comprehensive high schools. It was funny
[1:57:56]
a lot of the building projects that we had shared were part of
[1:57:59]
you know, similar high schools. Uh uh
[1:58:01]
Medford, Waltham, Attleboro, things that we're going to. So, I I
[1:58:05]
thought that I thought that was
[1:58:06]
interesting. And similar to where we are
[1:58:08]
in the pipeline with MSBA. So,
[1:58:10]
I I'm excited about it and I think it's
[1:58:12]
going to give us some really good
[1:58:13]
information.
[1:58:14]
>> And and this is not an audit. This is an
[1:58:17]
organizational review and I and we
[1:58:19]
talked a lot about that. This is an
[1:58:20]
organizational review. It's not an
[1:58:22]
audit. It's not a gotcha. It's not a
[1:58:24]
anything of that sort. It is a review to
[1:58:26]
see where we are,
[1:58:27]
give us information and then we take
[1:58:30]
that and decide what we'll want to we
[1:58:31]
want to do with that. They will be at
[1:58:33]
some point reaching out to school
[1:58:34]
committee.
[1:58:36]
And I think it was really very
[1:58:37]
beneficial. And and I'm excited about
[1:58:40]
it.
[1:58:42]
>> Great. That's excellent.
[1:58:44]
I'll go to Mr. Mico then to Mrs. Dunn.
[1:58:46]
>> Just one quick question either to Dr.
[1:58:48]
Vidala or Ms. Millman.
[1:58:49]
We're a little bit different than even
[1:58:51]
those districts uh because of our
[1:58:53]
elementary schools. You know, we have a
[1:58:54]
eight elementary schools. Will they take
[1:58:57]
that into account? Because that
[1:58:58]
obviously our structure is different
[1:58:59]
because of that.
[1:59:00]
>> Yes.
[1:59:01]
>> Yeah, I I'm I'm glad you brought that up
[1:59:03]
because in fact some of the districts
[1:59:05]
that they were showing us we were all
[1:59:06]
like, "Well, wait a minute." But
[1:59:08]
something like um
[1:59:09]
Woburn has a similar. I think they have
[1:59:11]
seven elementary schools, but they have
[1:59:12]
two middle schools, right? So, nothing
[1:59:14]
is that exactly perfect. And then we did
[1:59:16]
want to make sure as Dr. Vidal was
[1:59:18]
saying we look at um schools that have
[1:59:20]
CTE within their own high school like
[1:59:23]
Medford. And so, I think what what we
[1:59:26]
all what we recognized and and um any
[1:59:30]
further information that anybody wants
[1:59:31]
to ask
[1:59:32]
by all means, please do is that you
[1:59:34]
know, not we're not going to be exactly
[1:59:36]
like any other, but I think it's
[1:59:37]
important to have some components that
[1:59:39]
are. So, what they are looking at it,
[1:59:41]
which includes the fact that we are
[1:59:43]
building a high school. Um so, we want
[1:59:45]
another community that's in that similar
[1:59:47]
vein whether they have already built or
[1:59:49]
they're also in the process. Um um as
[1:59:52]
well as there were a couple other things
[1:59:53]
I think we mentioned just as far as
[1:59:55]
where our city that that actually is
[1:59:57]
another piece I think that's importantly
[1:59:59]
comparable. But when they shared just to
[2:00:01]
give you an idea, when they shared
[2:00:03]
certain communities there were some I
[2:00:05]
was like, "No, that makes no sense."
[2:00:06]
Like Cambridge was on there and I don't
[2:00:08]
think that makes sense. And so, we kind
[2:00:10]
of discussed that that's not really
[2:00:11]
comparable for any particular purpose. I
[2:00:14]
was trying to think, "Well, what would
[2:00:16]
we have, you know?" But I don't think
[2:00:18]
that was comparable. So, I think what
[2:00:20]
they're going to come back with is a
[2:00:21]
list that we're going to narrow down and
[2:00:23]
those are the things that we're going to
[2:00:24]
look at.
[2:00:26]
>> Thank you. Mrs. Dunn?
[2:00:28]
>> Just out of curiosity, how much does the
[2:00:30]
study cost?
[2:00:32]
>> Uh I believe it's 12,000.
[2:00:37]
>> Thank you.
[2:00:39]
All right, thank you for that report.
[2:00:41]
>> Wait, there's more.
[2:00:41]
>> Oh, sorry.
[2:00:43]
>> Um ju- just a a bit more on that and I think this is going to lend itself
[2:00:47]
to some of the new business as well. One
[2:00:49]
of the other things that um we talked
[2:00:51]
about in looking at kind of the
[2:00:53]
structure and the things in the way in
[2:00:54]
which we're doing things is um you know, at some point and I might
[2:00:59]
be jumping ahead of myself, but at some
[2:01:01]
point um looking at the the calendar of
[2:01:04]
the year that we have set forth for us
[2:01:06]
um and when and how things happen. So,
[2:01:09]
what we do know is by a lot of our um
[2:01:12]
operating bylaws as well as our school
[2:01:14]
policies, there are certain things that
[2:01:16]
need to happen within a certain period
[2:01:18]
of time as dictated by those bylaws and
[2:01:21]
by those policies and even further some
[2:01:25]
Mass General Laws and whatnot. So, one
[2:01:26]
of the things that I'm hoping to um to
[2:01:30]
be able to work collaboratively in our
[2:01:32]
uh August meeting, our retreat meeting
[2:01:35]
is discussing um some sort of way to for
[2:01:38]
us collectively and we can do the work a
[2:01:40]
little bit beforehand on our own is to
[2:01:43]
take a look at our things that we can
[2:01:44]
create a governance calendar that has
[2:01:47]
these things kind of addressed in terms
[2:01:49]
of being able to know that at certain
[2:01:51]
times of the year, there are certain
[2:01:53]
things we need to have forward. So, for
[2:01:55]
example, the school um
[2:01:57]
improvement plans um are provided to Dr.
[2:02:00]
Vidala and then they come to us in a way
[2:02:04]
like there's a variety of different
[2:02:06]
things that require votes and timelines
[2:02:08]
and so that if we can create
[2:02:10]
collectively some sort of governance
[2:02:12]
calendar within the calendar that we
[2:02:14]
have, that's also a fluid document, but
[2:02:17]
if we can create that perhaps at the
[2:02:19]
retreat to just help us move throughout
[2:02:21]
the year um and making sure we're
[2:02:23]
meeting those timelines that we were
[2:02:25]
required to meet.
[2:02:26]
>> Yeah. And if I could just say and if
[2:02:28]
it's like a checklist, it would help me
[2:02:30]
and then I could I could upload it as my
[2:02:32]
evidence for you at the end of the year.
[2:02:33]
It would be a very clean for everyone to
[2:02:35]
see. Here's a checklist of all the
[2:02:36]
things that we did and here are the
[2:02:37]
dates that we did it. So, I think
[2:02:39]
putting it all together in a document
[2:02:40]
and sort of in a checklist form, it
[2:02:42]
helps, you know, sort of keep me
[2:02:43]
organized and keep us organized and then
[2:02:45]
I can provide it at the end of the year.
[2:02:47]
Look at all we did, this is part of our
[2:02:48]
evidence as as we upload that as part of
[2:02:50]
our our normal procedures.
[2:02:52]
>> That's a good idea.
[2:02:54]
>> We
[2:02:55]
>> Please, Dr. Cox, go ahead.
[2:02:57]
>> Um we did chat a little bit about um
[2:03:00]
possibly creating like a template like
[2:03:02]
to show and have it be part of either
[2:03:04]
the next meeting that we have or uh just
[2:03:06]
as an example so everyone can kind of
[2:03:08]
get a visual of what it could look like.
[2:03:10]
Um and so we would be working with you
[2:03:12]
uh Dr. Bedolla on setting it up to make
[2:03:14]
it the most functional it can be.
[2:03:21]
» Thank you, Mr. Melman.
[2:03:23]
All right, parent and student advisory
[2:03:24]
boards, any report today, Mrs. Dunn?
[2:03:27]
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm going to
[2:03:28]
address parent advisory board and then
[2:03:30]
student advisory board.
[2:03:31]
Parent advisory board, due to the
[2:03:34]
extremely busy PTOs,
[2:03:38]
was unable to hold a final year meeting,
[2:03:41]
which would normally just be a wrap-up
[2:03:42]
anyway.
[2:03:43]
So, first I would like to make
[2:03:48]
a special statement to thank all of our
[2:03:50]
parent teacher organizations because we
[2:03:52]
know without them, we would never have
[2:03:55]
such a successful year.
[2:03:57]
The amount of activities they have done
[2:03:59]
this year has been absolutely
[2:04:01]
outstanding.
[2:04:03]
Every single one of the schools
[2:04:06]
has had
[2:04:07]
very successful events.
[2:04:11]
And
[2:04:12]
what they've done, those PTOs have not
[2:04:15]
only created happy memories for their
[2:04:17]
kids,
[2:04:18]
but they have contributed financially to
[2:04:21]
programs in the school, to supplies,
[2:04:24]
to uh
[2:04:26]
the good feelings in the building,
[2:04:28]
honoring teachers, honoring staff
[2:04:30]
members.
[2:04:32]
It's just been an amazing year to see it
[2:04:35]
unfold. So, I want to thank them and I
[2:04:37]
know we all agree to thank them for
[2:04:40]
their work because it's just this has
[2:04:43]
been an amazing year. So, for the Parent
[2:04:45]
Advisory Board, what I'm going to do is
[2:04:48]
I've got an email going out to all the
[2:04:50]
principals to obtain the names of the
[2:04:53]
new incoming PTO officers to reach out
[2:04:57]
to them this summer, perhaps to be able
[2:04:59]
to have a quick get-together before the
[2:05:02]
beginning of the school year. It's
[2:05:03]
sometimes difficult with tried it
[2:05:05]
different years,
[2:05:06]
but I would like to do that. And then be
[2:05:09]
able to work on our agenda for the year
[2:05:11]
and be able to address the issues that
[2:05:13]
the parents would like to discuss and as
[2:05:15]
we go through the year, we know
[2:05:16]
different things come up and they need
[2:05:18]
to speak with us. So, that's where we
[2:05:20]
are with Parent Advisory Board. With
[2:05:22]
Student Advisory Board, I have a meeting
[2:05:24]
next week with Deborah
[2:05:27]
Melnick.
[2:05:28]
She is the National Student Board Member
[2:05:31]
Association Membership and Program
[2:05:34]
Officer.
[2:05:35]
The students
[2:05:37]
have their own organization.
[2:05:39]
And it is really
[2:05:43]
very very helpful for Student Advisory
[2:05:47]
Board members to be able to learn their
[2:05:50]
role, their responsibilities,
[2:05:52]
and to be able to stress to the students
[2:05:54]
the power that they have and the civic
[2:05:56]
obligation they have when they take on
[2:05:58]
the role of a Student Advisory Board
[2:06:00]
member. Um, she is the Northeast
[2:06:03]
representative. And so, she is going to
[2:06:07]
meet with me to help provide some of the
[2:06:09]
new materials. Mass Association of
[2:06:11]
School Committees helped to get this
[2:06:13]
organization off the ground and is still
[2:06:16]
involved a bit with some guidance and
[2:06:19]
did do some financial assistance to help
[2:06:21]
the students because we are one of the
[2:06:24]
few states in the country that has a
[2:06:26]
mandated Student Advisory Committee that
[2:06:29]
we meet with on on a regular basis.
[2:06:33]
Other states are looking at this. Some
[2:06:36]
of the states, their student advisory
[2:06:37]
board members are actually voting
[2:06:39]
members of the school committee. And
[2:06:42]
it's really interesting to hear about
[2:06:43]
the different things that the students
[2:06:45]
work on,
[2:06:47]
hear about the similarities between our
[2:06:50]
boards and boards from across the state.
[2:06:53]
I participated in a nationwide
[2:06:55]
discussion and it was really interesting
[2:06:57]
to talk to people from the West Coast.
[2:07:00]
That was a lot of fun because we spoke
[2:07:01]
with the kids and heard about their
[2:07:03]
experiences. And
[2:07:06]
it's just something to really help our
[2:07:07]
advisory board members with their job.
[2:07:10]
So, I'm going to find out what she has
[2:07:12]
and then of course I'll coordinate with
[2:07:14]
Ms. Randall and the student advisory
[2:07:16]
council
[2:07:17]
representative, the teacher advisor,
[2:07:20]
and try to schedule some things at the
[2:07:22]
beginning of the school year, give them
[2:07:23]
a good start.
[2:07:25]
So, thank you.
[2:07:27]
>> Thank you, Ms. Dunn.
[2:07:29]
All right, we'll hold City Council
[2:07:30]
Legislative Delegation and send want to
[2:07:32]
send
[2:07:34]
well wishes to
[2:07:35]
Randy Carpenter on her recovery.
[2:07:38]
And Special Education,
[2:07:40]
Ms. Milman.
[2:07:42]
>> I don't have anything to report
[2:07:43]
specifically.
[2:07:45]
>> Thank you.
[2:07:46]
All right, let's get into new business.
[2:07:47]
We have a number of items to to discuss
[2:07:50]
and let's first start Ms. Milman with
[2:07:51]
the Open Meeting Law.
[2:07:55]
» So, I have a couple of matters to bring
[2:07:57]
up
[2:07:58]
that come under the Open Meeting Law.
[2:08:01]
So, I just to to start to refresh what
[2:08:03]
people might know and for the sake of
[2:08:05]
those that are listening even in
[2:08:07]
Chicopee,
[2:08:09]
we know that Open Meeting Law requires
[2:08:12]
public bodies to create and maintain
[2:08:14]
accurate minutes of all meetings. When
[2:08:16]
reviewing minutes for compliance with
[2:08:18]
Open Meeting Law, what is they look for
[2:08:20]
is substantial compliance, which is the
[2:08:23]
def- which they then define as meeting
[2:08:25]
them meaning the minute should contain
[2:08:28]
enough detail and accuracy so that a
[2:08:30]
member of the public who did not attend
[2:08:32]
the meeting could read the minutes and
[2:08:34]
have a clear understanding of what
[2:08:36]
occurred. It is insufficient to simply
[2:08:39]
state that an a discussion was had about
[2:08:42]
a particular topic. Rather, the minute
[2:08:44]
should include sufficient detail about
[2:08:46]
the discussion so that a member of the
[2:08:49]
public who is not present for the
[2:08:50]
meeting could understand what in fact
[2:08:52]
was discussed.
[2:08:54]
This is something we know.
[2:08:56]
We what we are looking at and in
[2:08:59]
particular
[2:09:01]
I'm drawing attention to some of the
[2:09:03]
things that I do have some concerns over
[2:09:05]
of whether we're consistently meeting
[2:09:07]
that in the way that we should be
[2:09:09]
and that we need to take a look at that.
[2:09:11]
I have particular concerns and I have
[2:09:14]
had some correspondence with the folks
[2:09:16]
from the Assistant Attorney General's
[2:09:19]
Office Division of Open Government
[2:09:22]
about our um compliance around open
[2:09:25]
meeting law. And basically you have to
[2:09:29]
file a complaint if we haven't done it
[2:09:31]
right. If somebody could be filing
[2:09:32]
complaint, but what's better is if we
[2:09:34]
cure it ourselves first and foremost and
[2:09:37]
move forward to do that. And so one of
[2:09:39]
the concerns that I have and that I was
[2:09:42]
looking into
[2:09:43]
and um really mean to make this we all
[2:09:48]
have areas to improve and and I myself
[2:09:51]
have noted to to one of those in our own
[2:09:53]
minutes of our the DOS and
[2:09:56]
District Organization Structure
[2:09:58]
Committee needed to do subcommittee
[2:10:00]
needed to do a bit better um because we
[2:10:02]
perhaps didn't meet that. So what we
[2:10:05]
have done um is we created um part of
[2:10:09]
our own recognition of this because
[2:10:11]
subcommittees
[2:10:13]
are subject to open meeting law.
[2:10:17]
And I have concerns that we are not
[2:10:19]
meeting that and I have that concern
[2:10:21]
because it also is stated in our own
[2:10:25]
operating bylaws
[2:10:27]
um
[2:10:28]
section BEBA
[2:10:31]
where it says a court um a subcommittee
[2:10:34]
um
[2:10:35]
can do a oral report in lieu of a
[2:10:38]
written report.
[2:10:40]
And that is not what the open meeting
[2:10:43]
law folks are telling us is okay.
[2:10:46]
And so in order to kind of cure
[2:10:49]
ourselves, we need to look back and make
[2:10:51]
some decisions about quickly curing that
[2:10:53]
as well as moving forward of what we're
[2:10:55]
going to do.
[2:10:57]
With Dr. Cox's amazing savvy technical
[2:11:00]
assistance, once again um to give her
[2:11:03]
that credit, we have provided and it's
[2:11:05]
been there for months now a template
[2:11:07]
document um of of what we can use and
[2:11:11]
it's on the drive that we all have
[2:11:13]
access to and
[2:11:16]
you can put that up. Yes, thank you. Um
[2:11:18]
and the document being shared right now
[2:11:20]
on the screen is is just a template.
[2:11:24]
It's not
[2:11:25]
you it's not a must do, but the template
[2:11:27]
is there that will likely meet um all
[2:11:31]
the required things of open meeting law.
[2:11:33]
What has come to some attention is just
[2:11:37]
bullet points are not okay unless again
[2:11:40]
they fulfill the definition of
[2:11:42]
substantial compliance, but we did put
[2:11:44]
bullet points cuz we felt used it and we
[2:11:46]
thought it was effective as well as
[2:11:47]
check boxes because we can also then go
[2:11:50]
back and and as we approve our own
[2:11:53]
minutes within the subcommittees, we can look back and see did we meet
[2:11:58]
these next action steps in each move
[2:12:00]
forward moving one. So as you can see
[2:12:03]
this was put here with the a reference
[2:12:05]
to the master general law open meeting
[2:12:07]
laws at the bottom for for an
[2:12:09]
understanding. Um we've had that up for
[2:12:12]
a while. Um I've actually had members of
[2:12:15]
the public ask for minutes of other
[2:12:16]
meetings and where they can find them.
[2:12:18]
Um and there are we haven't seen any
[2:12:21]
what from from the commit subcommittees.
[2:12:24]
Um so
[2:12:25]
I I I bring this to our attention
[2:12:27]
because we're better off curing it than
[2:12:29]
having a complaint against us on it. And
[2:12:33]
this is
[2:12:34]
not that hard for us to do. If we have
[2:12:37]
met this year, we have had an agenda. If
[2:12:40]
you had an agenda,
[2:12:41]
it'll probably be easier. Hopefully,
[2:12:44]
you'll be able to if there were
[2:12:45]
questions asked in the meeting, you'll
[2:12:47]
be able to put these the information
[2:12:49]
they are question asked wherever you
[2:12:51]
seem to have um
[2:12:53]
fit whether it goes under your action
[2:12:55]
items or next steps or in the meeting
[2:12:57]
minutes that a question was asked. So,
[2:13:00]
my my um
[2:13:02]
what I'd like to do at this time is to make a motion. Um um
[2:13:08]
and I move my motion would be that I
[2:13:10]
move that all subcommittees of the
[2:13:12]
school committee maintain meeting
[2:13:14]
minutes in accordance with our open
[2:13:16]
meeting laws, a Mass General Laws
[2:13:18]
chapter 30A um inclusive of sections 18
[2:13:22]
to 25, and that our minutes be prepared
[2:13:25]
um for every meeting um
[2:13:27]
then approved in a timely manner and
[2:13:29]
made available to the public as required
[2:13:31]
by law, um which could be as we're doing
[2:13:34]
it now with uh uploading um
[2:13:37]
the minutes um to the public website
[2:13:40]
that we do have available. We have a
[2:13:42]
public drive available. And that we at
[2:13:44]
the same time, my suggestion is going to
[2:13:46]
be that we um
[2:13:49]
put a link to that on the website as we
[2:13:51]
move forward as well. So, um
[2:13:54]
not to complicate things further, but um
[2:13:58]
I'd like to move forward the motion that
[2:13:59]
um
[2:14:00]
we
[2:14:02]
use appropriate documentation and
[2:14:04]
information to be sure that we are
[2:14:06]
complying with open meeting law. Um so
[2:14:12]
» Second.
[2:14:14]
>> Thank you for the motion by Ms. Millman.
[2:14:15]
That has been seconded by Dr. Cox. On
[2:14:17]
the motion, Mr. Miko.
[2:14:20]
>> Mr. Chair, and thank you Ms. Millman for
[2:14:22]
bringing this up.
[2:14:23]
Um I do have a a couple of questions and
[2:14:25]
concerns about this. I know we are
[2:14:26]
having a retreat in uh August, and I
[2:14:29]
know someone from uh
[2:14:31]
you know, the former superintendent. Um
[2:14:33]
but I would also like to get the MASC's
[2:14:36]
um
[2:14:37]
take on this and possibly our own legal
[2:14:39]
counsel.
[2:14:41]
Um
[2:14:42]
especially where the Assistant Attorney
[2:14:43]
General's office has been somehow
[2:14:45]
notified. I think it's um it's best that
[2:14:48]
we
[2:14:49]
you know, if if we're going to make
[2:14:51]
changes that we get
[2:14:52]
you know, we have we have uh city city
[2:14:55]
solicitors, we have our own legal team.
[2:14:58]
I I think we should get it from our
[2:14:59]
legal team. Personally. Thank
[2:15:03]
» Thank you, Mr. Miko.
[2:15:06]
All right. Uh Ms. Dunn?
[2:15:08]
>> I'll be honest, I think honestly that
[2:15:10]
MASC would probably
[2:15:13]
say the same thing. That's what's in the
[2:15:14]
training about uh providing the the
[2:15:17]
written minutes.
[2:15:19]
Um so
[2:15:21]
I mean
[2:15:24]
it's only difficult compiling all the
[2:15:27]
minutes and then filing them.
[2:15:29]
And that's that's one of the problems. I
[2:15:32]
would like to ask if we would be able
[2:15:35]
to increase the pay of our
[2:15:37]
uh record keeper, Ms. Bold.
[2:15:40]
Or find out if we would be able to have
[2:15:43]
um
[2:15:45]
a record keeper note taker at some of
[2:15:48]
the subcommittee meetings.
[2:15:49]
Some of them are pretty extensive
[2:15:52]
and may need more uh
[2:15:56]
more detailed minutes than others.
[2:16:01]
» Okay, well we have a motion on the floor
[2:16:02]
right now. Um
[2:16:04]
on on motion, Ms. Millman.
[2:16:06]
>> Just to add, um, my first contact
[2:16:08]
actually was the MASC. Um, so I I do
[2:16:11]
appreciate you saying that, too, because
[2:16:13]
that was the first contact. Um, and the
[2:16:16]
connection with the Attorney General's
[2:16:17]
office as anybody as an elected
[2:16:19]
official, there's lots of, um, resources
[2:16:21]
that we have available to us to make
[2:16:23]
sure that we're doing the things that we
[2:16:24]
need to do. And quite frankly, as one of
[2:16:26]
four attorneys sitting on here, this
[2:16:28]
came up as a concern for me. Um, and
[2:16:30]
that's why I reached out just as if
[2:16:32]
there were certain things relative to,
[2:16:34]
uh,
[2:16:35]
conflict of interest. We have We're fortunate we have that. There is
[2:16:38]
no legal advice they will give out to
[2:16:40]
you when you make those calls in
[2:16:42]
particular. It's just kind of
[2:16:43]
informational purposes and so that it
[2:16:45]
can guide you whatever you're thinking.
[2:16:47]
But again, I started out with the MASC
[2:16:49]
and they were a fantastic resource. Um, as the Mass Association of School
[2:16:54]
Committees, I always like to say what
[2:16:55]
I'm talking about when I use the, um,
[2:16:58]
acronyms. Um, but, um, I think once
[2:17:01]
again, it's it's almost ironic because
[2:17:04]
we actually
[2:17:05]
my motion in some ways to me feels a
[2:17:07]
little bit odd, albeit I'm making it,
[2:17:10]
because we're we're charged to do it
[2:17:13]
anyway.
[2:17:15]
» Okay. Thank you. You have the You have
[2:17:17]
the motion on the floor.
[2:17:19]
Roll call vote, please.
[2:17:21]
>> Mrs. Dunn?
[2:17:22]
>> Yes.
[2:17:23]
>> Mr. Olimpio?
[2:17:24]
>> Yes.
[2:17:24]
>> Ms. Millman?
[2:17:25]
>> Yes.
[2:17:26]
>> Mrs. Cox?
[2:17:27]
>> Yes.
[2:17:27]
>> Mr. Amico?
[2:17:28]
>> Yes.
[2:17:31]
» Okay. Thank you. Ms. Millman.
[2:17:36]
» That's all.
[2:17:38]
>> All right. And I know we did touch on
[2:17:40]
this, uh, earlier, uh, but just wanted
[2:17:42]
to bring it back. Uh, item number two,
[2:17:44]
the School Committee Governance
[2:17:45]
Calendar. Ms. Millman, anything to add
[2:17:47]
on that?
[2:17:48]
>> No, I'll leave that to kind of where we
[2:17:50]
left it and just would say it's a
[2:17:51]
follow-up for for for as well as our
[2:17:54]
retreat. And I think, um, the idea, um,
[2:17:57]
and as Mr. Amico had said, I do believe
[2:17:59]
that bringing in MASC for pay perhaps a
[2:18:01]
portion of that retreat would certainly
[2:18:03]
be very very helpful.
[2:18:05]
Um and I would really like to see that.
[2:18:07]
Um perhaps we can do that and that could
[2:18:08]
be a piece of what they um support us
[2:18:10]
with, too.
[2:18:14]
» All right. Thank you. Uh next item uh is
[2:18:17]
public forum for superintendent's
[2:18:19]
evaluation. Dr. Cox, I'll turn it over
[2:18:20]
to you.
[2:18:21]
>> Thank you so much. Um okay, so
[2:18:24]
um
[2:18:25]
I just want to kind of circle back to
[2:18:27]
where we were back in May.
[2:18:30]
Um so, the uh
[2:18:32]
Mayor Bettencourt requested that we had
[2:18:34]
all of our superintendent evaluations
[2:18:36]
submitted by the end of May to allow him
[2:18:38]
sufficient time to compile the report.
[2:18:41]
Um Mayor Bettencourt, are you able to
[2:18:43]
confirm that you've received all of our
[2:18:46]
>> I do have all the reports. Thank you for
[2:18:47]
that. I failed to get that done by
[2:18:49]
tonight's meeting. Uh I will have that
[2:18:52]
for the next meeting whenever we
[2:18:53]
reschedule or whenever we schedule that.
[2:18:55]
Um
[2:18:57]
but yes, I do have all the reports.
[2:18:58]
They're lengthy,
[2:18:59]
uh which is terrific. Um
[2:19:01]
and I will have a full report at the
[2:19:03]
next meeting. I wasn't able to get it
[2:19:04]
done by the meeting tonight.
[2:19:07]
>> Thank you. We're busy doing other
[2:19:08]
things.
[2:19:09]
>> [laughter]
[2:19:10]
>> Um
[2:19:11]
which is totally fine. I that just
[2:19:13]
brings me to like the step five when we
[2:19:15]
are looking at the DESE
[2:19:17]
um like
[2:19:18]
rotation of how the year looks for an
[2:19:20]
evaluative process. And so, that just
[2:19:22]
looks at, you know, um us scheduling
[2:19:25]
that public meeting in order to um allow
[2:19:27]
us to
[2:19:29]
complete our performance appraisals uh
[2:19:31]
our our performance review and end of
[2:19:33]
cycle summative evaluation within the
[2:19:35]
public uh within a public forum. And so,
[2:19:39]
um
[2:19:41]
I just really wanted to have try to have
[2:19:42]
an open conversation about when
[2:19:45]
the what the timeline looks like for us
[2:19:46]
to get this done before we start back in
[2:19:50]
August or if it's something that we can
[2:19:52]
try to do that first meeting that we're
[2:19:54]
back in August.
[2:19:55]
Um because then we're really looking at
[2:19:57]
starting the cycle all over again and
[2:19:59]
looking at your new goals and what we're
[2:20:02]
going to be doing starting the new year.
[2:20:03]
So I really want to try to wrap this up.
[2:20:05]
So
[2:20:06]
opening it up to the discussion for a
[2:20:08]
timeline that the school committee might
[2:20:11]
seem reasonable for us to meet for a
[2:20:14]
public forum.
[2:20:16]
>> All right. Thank you. I'll bring that up
[2:20:17]
open it for discussion, Mrs. Dunn.
[2:20:21]
>> I'll be honest. I know that the
[2:20:22]
terminology is a public forum
[2:20:25]
for the superintendent's evaluation.
[2:20:27]
However,
[2:20:29]
the evaluation needs to be presented and
[2:20:32]
brought forward in an in a public
[2:20:34]
meeting.
[2:20:35]
We have always brought that forward at
[2:20:37]
our regular meetings.
[2:20:41]
The use of the word public forum almost
[2:20:44]
sounds like a public hearing on the
[2:20:46]
student on the
[2:20:48]
Sorry, on the superintendent's
[2:20:49]
evaluation and that is not
[2:20:53]
the purpose of the public forum. The
[2:20:55]
public forum is that that
[2:20:58]
product
[2:21:00]
the compilation of all of our
[2:21:01]
evaluations
[2:21:03]
after being prepared by the mayor
[2:21:05]
is released to the school committee as a
[2:21:09]
regular document. It would be
[2:21:12]
discussed at a regular meeting.
[2:21:15]
The public is able to speak at public
[2:21:17]
participation.
[2:21:19]
But that
[2:21:22]
is the way that it needs to take place.
[2:21:25]
So if we're going to have that at our
[2:21:27]
first meeting of the
[2:21:29]
at our first meeting after July
[2:21:33]
then we would let people know that would
[2:21:35]
be on the agenda.
[2:21:41]
» Sorry, my back's bothering me a little
[2:21:42]
bit. Thank you, Mrs. Dunn. Mr. Amico.
[2:21:44]
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, through the
[2:21:45]
[clears throat] chair. Yeah, so when I
[2:21:46]
first saw that public forum, I I thought
[2:21:48]
it was cuz there was there was mention
[2:21:50]
of
[2:21:51]
earlier in during budget season that the
[2:21:54]
superintendent's eval evaluation should
[2:21:55]
be in public and
[2:21:57]
but you know, we all evaluate the
[2:21:59]
superintendent. We all gave
[2:22:02]
through the chair we gave the mayor all
[2:22:04]
our findings and to to what Miss Dunn
[2:22:08]
has said, it's just brought brought out
[2:22:10]
at a regular meeting. It's an agenda
[2:22:12]
item.
[2:22:13]
Um so I I do question the wording public forum for
[2:22:19]
superintendent's evaluation. That's very vague. I I think that should
[2:22:22]
be tightened up a little bit. Um I think
[2:22:24]
it's just a um
[2:22:27]
it's a report on the superintendent's
[2:22:29]
evaluation. That's that's basically what
[2:22:32]
we've done for the last 10 years and
[2:22:33]
what I think you've done for the last 20
[2:22:35]
plus years.
[2:22:38]
>> And it would certainly be a
[2:22:40]
couple of page report based on the
[2:22:42]
length of the of the evaluations and I I
[2:22:45]
would read that at the the forum.
[2:22:47]
>> a summary.
[2:22:48]
>> So um
[2:22:50]
but yeah, that uh
[2:22:51]
>> And that's and I'm comfortable changing
[2:22:53]
the language. It's
[2:22:54]
I've going through like DESE um
[2:22:57]
like the language that they're using in
[2:22:59]
their documentation for it
[2:23:02]
and you know, knowing that they're at a
[2:23:04]
minimum DESE you know, reflects saying
[2:23:07]
that they there needs to be at minimum
[2:23:09]
three public meetings each year that
[2:23:11]
looks specifically at the evaluation and
[2:23:13]
if those are
[2:23:15]
designated as part of our
[2:23:17]
regular school committees, that's fine
[2:23:20]
if we think that it's something.
[2:23:22]
>> Yeah. And so in in general uh
[2:23:25]
what I what I would recommend for the
[2:23:26]
three would be
[2:23:28]
in August I'll I'll be doing my goals
[2:23:30]
again, right? And so we'll do the goals.
[2:23:31]
That should be the first one. Um at some
[2:23:33]
point we should do a meeting where I
[2:23:35]
present progress towards those goals and
[2:23:38]
then towards the end of the year the
[2:23:39]
third meeting would be
[2:23:41]
uh for next year would be a formative
[2:23:42]
and then the following year we would do
[2:23:44]
the same process and end with a
[2:23:45]
summative. Um and so each year we would
[2:23:47]
have three meetings. One would be goal
[2:23:48]
setting, one would be evidence and and
[2:23:51]
um
[2:23:52]
you know,
[2:23:52]
>> Mid-cycle review.
[2:23:54]
>> review. And and then we would do that.
[2:23:55]
So, yeah, I'm happy to do that and I
[2:23:57]
think this this ties in nicely to our
[2:23:59]
process as long as we can get um the
[2:24:02]
official report shared publicly uh
[2:24:05]
in August. I'll share the uh the goals
[2:24:07]
for next year in August as I do each
[2:24:09]
year because we want to do that on
[2:24:10]
opening day, August 31st, I'll be
[2:24:12]
sharing the district goals with the
[2:24:14]
teachers. Um so, you know, I look
[2:24:15]
forward to receiving that feedback and then we'll prepare our goals for uh
[2:24:19]
for next year as well.
[2:24:20]
>> That's actually one of the reasons why
[2:24:22]
we traditionally have the retreat in
[2:24:24]
August before the school year begins.
[2:24:26]
>> And
[2:24:28]
would those dates be a part of uh I
[2:24:30]
really do like the idea of this
[2:24:32]
governance committee setting the
[2:24:33]
schedule and time frame? Would that be
[2:24:34]
part of of that? Is that what you want
[2:24:36]
to speak to, Ms. Milman?
[2:24:37]
>> Exactly. Um that's what actually I was
[2:24:40]
going to bring up is that because we're
[2:24:41]
required to do it three times a year and
[2:24:44]
regardless of what we've always done, I
[2:24:45]
think we're trying to improve upon
[2:24:47]
ourselves and to move forward and have
[2:24:49]
an understanding and expectation so that
[2:24:52]
perhaps we can create that calendar so
[2:24:54]
that we know exactly which meeting it
[2:24:55]
will be on, um you know, what the date
[2:24:58]
will be. And I I keep hearing and I just
[2:25:00]
need to clarify a couple things. I keep
[2:25:02]
hearing we're going to meet in July, but
[2:25:03]
I don't have July dates yet. So, I'm
[2:25:05]
hoping we're leaving with that. Oh,
[2:25:07]
sorry. Um sorry. Sorry. I'll back off on
[2:25:09]
that. And the other thing was is when
[2:25:12]
we're saying the word retreat, but we're
[2:25:15]
determining we're going to use that for
[2:25:17]
this purpose is does that turn our
[2:25:18]
retreat into a public meeting?
[2:25:21]
>> It is a public meeting. It has to be
[2:25:23]
posted.
[2:25:24]
>> So, the retreat itself is a public
[2:25:26]
meeting for people
[2:25:27]
to attend?
[2:25:28]
>> They can if they want to, they'll be
[2:25:30]
sitting in the corner, but they're
[2:25:31]
welcome to attend.
[2:25:32]
>> Okay, I just wanted to be I just wanted
[2:25:34]
to clarify that because I know we're we're having that on in August and
[2:25:37]
I know we're having that over at
[2:25:39]
beautiful Endicott College campus. Um
[2:25:42]
and so I just was curious if that's in
[2:25:45]
fact an open meeting that would cover
[2:25:47]
for that. But that is the exact point.
[2:25:50]
>> and so so technically yes that's that's
[2:25:52]
an open meeting.
[2:25:53]
I would not recommend that's where we
[2:25:55]
share the superintendent's evaluation
[2:25:56]
because it's not a televised meeting.
[2:25:57]
>> No, it's not that kind.
[2:25:58]
>> That's not a televised meeting so we
[2:26:00]
could certainly discuss that and I'm
[2:26:01]
happy to receive feedback and and talk
[2:26:02]
about that. Typically we would you know
[2:26:05]
if there is a review of it it may be an
[2:26:07]
executive session but the final report
[2:26:09]
must be shared on the floor which we
[2:26:10]
should do at the televised meeting in
[2:26:12]
August.
[2:26:13]
>> So so that's where I was going just to
[2:26:15]
try to clarify because again this is
[2:26:17]
going to be about dates and I know that
[2:26:19]
everybody
[2:26:20]
likes to take some summer time dates and
[2:26:23]
just to clarify that we're able to do
[2:26:24]
that and that and creating that calendar
[2:26:27]
I think is going to be important even if we get and I'm more than happy
[2:26:31]
with anybody else's input to share a
[2:26:33]
draft of some sort so that we come in
[2:26:35]
with something and go from there.
[2:26:38]
>> Okay, thank you. This is a
[2:26:40]
>> Thank you Mr. Chairman. Just so that
[2:26:41]
everyone understands that the retreat
[2:26:45]
is posted. It is an open meeting anytime
[2:26:50]
this body meets it as a group.
[2:26:54]
If we had a holiday party, it would be
[2:26:56]
posted
[2:26:57]
and the public could come
[2:26:59]
and watch us have a dinner.
[2:27:02]
So for the retreat
[2:27:04]
if people want to come and sit there
[2:27:06]
they are not allowed to speak.
[2:27:08]
They can come
[2:27:11]
but
[2:27:13]
the purpose of that retreat really is
[2:27:15]
for team building
[2:27:18]
and to accomplish some work so that we
[2:27:20]
can move forward.
[2:27:22]
And that's the real purpose of that
[2:27:24]
retreat.
[2:27:25]
So if people wanted to attend and watch
[2:27:30]
they're more than welcome to. It's not
[2:27:33]
videoed.
[2:27:34]
It's not
[2:27:36]
broadcast but they are always posted as
[2:27:39]
an open meeting.
[2:27:42]
>> Thank you.
[2:27:43]
I'll turn it back to you, Dr. Cox. Um
[2:27:47]
Uh thank you for bringing this item
[2:27:49]
forward.
[2:27:50]
>> Okay.
[2:27:51]
>> Any other discussion?
[2:27:53]
All right, good.
[2:27:55]
Okay, and that kind of
[2:27:57]
flows nicely into the next item.
[2:28:00]
So, I'll turn it over to you, Dr. Cox,
[2:28:01]
for the July School Committee meeting
[2:28:02]
dates.
[2:28:03]
>> Um and this is again I'm looking more of
[2:28:05]
our discussion. Everyone's looking at
[2:28:07]
their summers. Summer starts tomorrow
[2:28:10]
for our students here in Peabody.
[2:28:13]
Um and so,
[2:28:14]
as we voted and accepted the 2026-2027
[2:28:19]
School Committee schedule um at our last
[2:28:21]
School Committee meeting
[2:28:23]
with our first scheduled meeting on
[2:28:24]
August 25th. Um I just as we're going
[2:28:28]
through all of these things, there's oh,
[2:28:29]
we're going to do that that first
[2:28:30]
meeting in August. We're going to do
[2:28:32]
that It's that first meeting in August
[2:28:33]
seems like it's getting loaded with
[2:28:36]
items. Is there any um
[2:28:39]
thoughts or discussion around the
[2:28:41]
possibility of having a regular School
[2:28:43]
Committee meeting in July to maybe start
[2:28:46]
working on the and getting the first
[2:28:48]
drafts of this calendar or those like
[2:28:50]
first steps done? So, it come August,
[2:28:53]
we're setting ourselves up
[2:28:55]
for a little bit easier of a start.
[2:28:59]
>> Okay, thank you. I'll just put that out
[2:29:01]
on the floor and open it up for
[2:29:02]
discussion. Any thoughts on this item?
[2:29:04]
Mr. Dunn.
[2:29:05]
>> I think historically July's a very tough
[2:29:08]
month for a lot of people, and quite
[2:29:10]
honestly, I'm more than open to when we
[2:29:13]
meet in August, if it's got to be a
[2:29:15]
4-hour meeting, it has to be a 4-hour
[2:29:17]
meeting, but I think
[2:29:19]
a lot of people's schedules during the
[2:29:21]
month of July, it's
[2:29:22]
I mean, we've never been able to We've
[2:29:24]
tried a couple of times, but
[2:29:26]
um so, August, you know, typically is a
[2:29:29]
long meeting.
[2:29:32]
» Thank you, Mr. Dunn.
[2:29:34]
>> And typically, that is a time where we
[2:29:37]
are able to have some subcommittee
[2:29:39]
meetings for the smaller groups because
[2:29:41]
it's easier to
[2:29:43]
uh work around people's vacations to
[2:29:45]
hold a meeting and make sure that we're
[2:29:48]
continuing on with any of the things
[2:29:50]
that a subcommittee has been addressing.
[2:29:53]
So, July
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it's not off
[2:29:58]
the table,
[2:29:59]
but it's just a bit different as far as
[2:30:01]
trying to schedule a full school
[2:30:04]
committee meeting for everyone.
[2:30:06]
Especially
[2:30:08]
I mean, we all try to get away.
[2:30:10]
But, our staff
[2:30:12]
their vacation time is really limited.
[2:30:15]
So, we need them here at our meetings.
[2:30:19]
And that was really why the July meeting
[2:30:23]
started to go. We have the ability, if
[2:30:26]
we needed to, to hold a July meeting.
[2:30:29]
That's always been available in case
[2:30:32]
there was some type of a pressing issue
[2:30:34]
that needed to be taken care of. But,
[2:30:36]
for the most part, we've been able to
[2:30:38]
have a bit I would say a bit of a
[2:30:41]
catch-up for the school committee to be
[2:30:43]
able to
[2:30:44]
have those subcommittee meetings, take
[2:30:45]
care of some of the smaller details,
[2:30:47]
bring everything back in August, start
[2:30:49]
fresh. It's just like starting the new
[2:30:51]
school year. We start off again.
[2:30:56]
» Thank you. Any other comments, thoughts,
[2:30:57]
Mr. Mico?
[2:30:58]
>> Yeah, I agree. We we tried that a couple
[2:31:00]
a few years ago.
[2:31:02]
And [clears throat]
[2:31:03]
I think five out of the six members had
[2:31:05]
vacations planned on the different
[2:31:06]
weeks. And then, to your point for the
[2:31:08]
chair to Ms. Dunn, you know, our
[2:31:10]
valuable team here, they deserve so I
[2:31:12]
mean, they've been all out. I mean, Dr.
[2:31:14]
Vidalis just gave his presentation, you
[2:31:17]
know, less than 24 hours ago to the city
[2:31:19]
council. They've been all out, you know,
[2:31:22]
I notice Mr. Rippons not here and well
[2:31:24]
deserved uh cuz I know he was burning
[2:31:26]
the midnight oil uh with charts and
[2:31:29]
whatever he does. Uh,
[2:31:31]
Um, so I just don't I
[2:31:34]
You know what? We work our tails off. I
[2:31:36]
almost said something else. I I I I
[2:31:38]
actually would say it is it after 9:00
[2:31:39]
now. But, uh, we deserve we deserve some
[2:31:41]
time off. And if there's anyone who
[2:31:43]
thinks otherwise,
[2:31:45]
I don't care.
[2:31:46]
Personally.
[2:31:47]
>> And there is a lot of work that goes on.
[2:31:50]
>> Thank you.
[2:31:51]
>> And that's exactly why I wanted to open
[2:31:54]
it up for the discussion for us to have
[2:31:56]
a conversation about what August is
[2:31:58]
going to look like, what we can do in
[2:32:00]
July, and
[2:32:02]
I'm okay with that if the team's okay with that.
[2:32:05]
>> Thank you. Ms. Millman.
[2:32:08]
>> Yeah, I mean, I think that probably the
[2:32:10]
most important thing is let's get a date
[2:32:12]
because if we wait through July,
[2:32:15]
people also do things in August. I'm
[2:32:17]
more concerned in making sure we have
[2:32:18]
the dates to do the things. And I kept
[2:32:20]
hearing in the last few meetings, we
[2:32:22]
meet in July, we meet in July, we meet
[2:32:24]
in July, and and now I'm hearing we
[2:32:25]
don't really meet in July. Um, perhaps
[2:32:27]
it's just subcommittees that we'd meet
[2:32:29]
in July. Um, I'm fine with it, too.
[2:32:31]
Believe me, calendars are flying
[2:32:34]
already. I just don't want to walk away,
[2:32:36]
hopefully tonight, without at least
[2:32:38]
having some understanding of if we're
[2:32:40]
going to have two August dates or we're
[2:32:42]
just going to have one and it's going to
[2:32:43]
be a marathon. I want to be prepared.
[2:32:47]
Um, you know, I'm all about I think
[2:32:50]
folks around this table have been
[2:32:51]
working incredibly hard. I really think
[2:32:53]
that um, if if there's anything pressing
[2:32:56]
that we should have it, I don't know because I mean, we have
[2:33:01]
said repeatedly over some meetings, we
[2:33:04]
meet in July. So, when those things were
[2:33:06]
said, I think myself and perhaps Dr.
[2:33:09]
Cox, maybe is why you brought this is
[2:33:11]
because we've said that and um, I'm sure
[2:33:13]
you're trying to get away as well with
[2:33:15]
your little ones. So, um,
[2:33:18]
I I'm hoping we can perhaps set a date
[2:33:21]
or
[2:33:23]
I I don't know.
[2:33:24]
>> I think the dates are set. So, August
[2:33:27]
13th is the retreat, so that's one like
[2:33:29]
meeting technically, and then August
[2:33:31]
25th.
[2:33:32]
So, we'll have the two in August and
[2:33:36]
>> And then we have our And then we go back
[2:33:38]
to our regular schedule the second and
[2:33:40]
fourth Tuesdays.
[2:33:42]
So, yeah, that's the dates we have right
[2:33:44]
now.
[2:33:45]
>> As long as the committee is comfortable
[2:33:47]
and that's
[2:33:49]
I just wanted the discussion to be up
[2:33:51]
there.
[2:33:52]
>> Thank you, Dr. Cox.
[2:33:54]
All right, next item, subcommittee
[2:33:55]
meeting documents. Turn it back to you.
[2:33:58]
>> It's already pretty much been discussed.
[2:34:00]
Um I wanted again just to follow up with
[2:34:03]
how the Google Doc has been utilized or
[2:34:06]
not utilized. If there's anything any
[2:34:08]
feedback that you guys can give me
[2:34:10]
on how I can make it more accessible. Um
[2:34:14]
either during meetings or after
[2:34:15]
meetings, um feel free to let me know,
[2:34:19]
send me an email about the format of it,
[2:34:21]
if there's anything I can do to make it
[2:34:23]
better or easier. It is a live document,
[2:34:26]
so if you are taking notes in it
[2:34:28]
directly during the meeting, somebody
[2:34:30]
who is at home that knows the meeting is
[2:34:33]
going on can see your notes going in. Um
[2:34:36]
if you're in our public files, you can
[2:34:38]
make a copy of the document and have it
[2:34:40]
on your own drive and then upload it
[2:34:42]
into our live our public folder drive.
[2:34:46]
Um
[2:34:46]
but
[2:34:48]
I just wanted to see if there was any
[2:34:49]
feedback, any additional comments,
[2:34:52]
concerns, questions about it. Um
[2:34:54]
especially as we're wrapping up this
[2:34:55]
year going into the next year, what we
[2:34:58]
can do to improve upon it.
[2:35:00]
>> All right, thank you. I'll open that up.
[2:35:02]
Any thoughts?
[2:35:06]
Ms. Dunn?
[2:35:06]
>> Just just a bit of history.
[2:35:09]
Subcommittees used to have to turn in
[2:35:11]
written minutes. They were attached to
[2:35:14]
the minutes of the school committee, and
[2:35:16]
then they had to be approved.
[2:35:19]
What ended up happening over time was
[2:35:21]
that they became integrated into the
[2:35:25]
minutes via
[2:35:28]
the oral dictation.
[2:35:30]
So,
[2:35:31]
now with the state requiring the minutes
[2:35:34]
to be written
[2:35:35]
again, it was it was actually it was
[2:35:39]
actually burdensome, and I can see how
[2:35:41]
it is again.
[2:35:42]
That's how it goes.
[2:35:48]
» So, any feedback on the forms when we
[2:35:50]
start to use them more consistently, let
[2:35:52]
me know and I can help you get it once
[2:35:55]
if we get more guidance from mass or
[2:35:56]
anything about how we can take them.
[2:36:00]
Easy to edit.
[2:36:02]
>> Well, thank you. Thank you for working
[2:36:03]
on that. That's very helpful. Oh, Ms.
[2:36:05]
Bowman, do you do you want to comment?
[2:36:07]
>> Um I'm just wondering Dr. Cox if the
[2:36:11]
aspect of it being in the drive where
[2:36:13]
it's at where you're typing when and
[2:36:16]
somebody can see it if we need to change
[2:36:18]
that and put that into it could be in
[2:36:21]
the sub in the only the school
[2:36:23]
committee's
[2:36:25]
um
[2:36:25]
drive so that if any one of us is on it
[2:36:28]
and even that I wonder if that creates a
[2:36:31]
potential issue. I don't know. No,
[2:36:33]
actually it shouldn't. But, I think if
[2:36:35]
it was just um accessible to the school
[2:36:37]
committee and after the minutes are
[2:36:40]
approved, then it moves over to the
[2:36:42]
public file um
[2:36:44]
as minutes in the public files other
[2:36:46]
minutes would be so that we're not you
[2:36:48]
know, I know that I'm not great at
[2:36:49]
typing and if I'm typing and then
[2:36:51]
somebody's on and they're like, oh, you
[2:36:52]
need I just I just feel like it it's
[2:36:55]
something that it we want to have it
[2:36:56]
between us is as um accessible first and
[2:37:00]
then moved over. Um that's just a
[2:37:02]
thought uh based on what you said. Um
[2:37:05]
it just makes it kind of a little bit
[2:37:07]
more
[2:37:08]
um
[2:37:10]
kind of the work product of the sub
[2:37:11]
committee be there. If somebody wants
[2:37:14]
to, as we know, the subcommittees are
[2:37:15]
open to open meeting. People can
[2:37:17]
certainly come and sit there. Um but I
[2:37:19]
think having our minutes done um in
[2:37:22]
within us and then once they're
[2:37:23]
approved, they're available to the
[2:37:24]
public.
[2:37:27]
>> Thank you, Ms. Moment. Mr. Micco, did
[2:37:28]
you want to
[2:37:29]
>> Yeah, I was going to say the same thing.
[2:37:30]
They should be restricted initially cuz
[2:37:31]
you're typing, you're putting in uh
[2:37:33]
there may be uh you may have changes to
[2:37:35]
it, you may have additions, you may add
[2:37:37]
a document to it. So, I would I would I
[2:37:39]
would agree with Ms. Moment on that.
[2:37:40]
>> Thank you.
[2:37:41]
>> Perfect. I can make that change.
[2:37:43]
>> Right. Excellent. That's helpful. Thank
[2:37:45]
you.
[2:37:49]
want to roll, Dr. Clark? Next item.
[2:37:51]
>> Going quick. I'm trying to be quick for
[2:37:53]
everyone.
[2:37:53]
>> No, no.
[2:37:54]
>> Um this also kind of goes along with our
[2:37:56]
live drive folders that we have. Um so,
[2:38:01]
um have had several really great um
[2:38:03]
conversations with, you know, different
[2:38:06]
stakeholders, community stakeholders,
[2:38:08]
families, um staff members regarding
[2:38:10]
access to like the documents that we're
[2:38:14]
using, that we have access to, that are
[2:38:16]
all part of our agenda. Um and so, just
[2:38:21]
how we get we hand out our packets here.
[2:38:23]
If somebody's not here, but they're
[2:38:25]
connecting with us online. I know this
[2:38:27]
week all of our items were added to our
[2:38:29]
folder. It's the first week that it
[2:38:31]
happened, which was really great. I'm
[2:38:33]
wondering if it's something that we can
[2:38:34]
do um
[2:38:36]
that we just have it all of our written
[2:38:38]
communication, all of the superintendent
[2:38:40]
reports, everything that we are
[2:38:41]
presenting and doing during our school
[2:38:43]
committee meetings to be added to those
[2:38:45]
drives where our agendas are posted.
[2:38:47]
Therefore, anyone who's meeting who's
[2:38:49]
joining us at home has all the written
[2:38:51]
communication. Um this came up the first
[2:38:54]
time um to me when um one of our very
[2:38:58]
well-respected teachers sent her letter
[2:39:01]
of uh retirement. And I got teachers
[2:39:04]
asking me to send the letter to them
[2:39:06]
because
[2:39:07]
they didn't get to see her letter. Um, but it was in our written
[2:39:10]
communication. So, that was kind of the
[2:39:12]
first thing that sparked being like,
[2:39:14]
"Oh, well, everyone should have been
[2:39:15]
able to see this really nice letter."
[2:39:17]
Um, so, uh, I don't know if that has to
[2:39:19]
be
[2:39:21]
proposed as a motion or how that would
[2:39:23]
work.
[2:39:24]
Discussion, I'm open to.
[2:39:27]
>> Thank you. So, was that not in the
[2:39:28]
agenda packet that is posted in the
[2:39:30]
>> So, the
[2:39:31]
>> So, I know like the city council, the
[2:39:33]
you can click on the agenda and it's got
[2:39:34]
everything in it. The documents that we
[2:39:36]
receive
[2:39:37]
>> Typically, everything that's just been
[2:39:39]
going into our folders right now are
[2:39:41]
just our agendas and our minutes when
[2:39:44]
they go through. So, our whole entire
[2:39:45]
packet is not going in.
[2:39:47]
Um, therefore, I'm like, if we could I
[2:39:49]
don't know if it's just something that's
[2:39:51]
as easy as, "Yeah, we all agree." or if
[2:39:53]
it has to be a discussion.
[2:39:54]
>> Yeah, I don't know what would prohibit
[2:39:56]
us from doing that. I I don't know.
[2:39:58]
>> All right. I'm I'm surprised because I
[2:40:00]
thought that our entire packet, uh, was
[2:40:04]
available to the public, say, on Monday
[2:40:08]
before our school committee meeting on
[2:40:10]
Tuesday.
[2:40:11]
So, I know it is sent out. It's
[2:40:13]
definitely appearing on the city
[2:40:15]
website.
[2:40:16]
>> I think the warrants have to be pulled
[2:40:18]
out of it.
[2:40:19]
>> Mhm.
[2:40:19]
>> So, I think it's our it's the packet
[2:40:20]
that the school committee really
[2:40:21]
receives minus the warrants.
[2:40:24]
Okay. So,
[2:40:25]
but but that's not going up there, but
[2:40:27]
that's what can go up there. Okay. So,
[2:40:29]
we would need two separate packets, one
[2:40:31]
with warrants, one without. The one
[2:40:32]
without is is public.
[2:40:34]
>> What's with the warrants? It's public
[2:40:36]
document. Why wouldn't that be okay to
[2:40:38]
go up?
[2:40:44]
I can't I can't hear you.
[2:40:46]
>> Yeah, I don't know if it's account
[2:40:47]
numbers or
[2:40:49]
I'm not sure. We can look into that as
[2:40:51]
well. I can ask that question.
[2:40:52]
>> document.
[2:40:54]
Just making sure that it has to Yeah, it
[2:40:57]
has to be available cuz
[2:40:59]
>> No, I can
[2:40:59]
>> If we look at it here,
[2:41:02]
it's available to the public.
[2:41:04]
>> Well, let's ask. I can ask that
[2:41:05]
question. Can I just answer pretty
[2:41:06]
quick?
[2:41:07]
>> Yeah, we should ask. Yeah.
[2:41:08]
>> All right. You
[2:41:10]
Mr. Amico.
[2:41:11]
>> Yeah, I and and I'll I'll go back to the
[2:41:13]
superintendent's evaluation. You know,
[2:41:15]
by having those um
[2:41:17]
superintendent's reports, I'll be honest
[2:41:19]
with you, that's where I drove all my
[2:41:21]
data from. I looked back at all of Dr.
[2:41:23]
Vidala's superintendent reports and I
[2:41:25]
said, "Oh, there's there's a goal that
[2:41:27]
he set at the beginning of the year and
[2:41:29]
he's reporting on it here." So, you
[2:41:31]
know, almost like a tea you know, the
[2:41:33]
teacher up uploading evidence, that's
[2:41:35]
what Dr. Vidala is doing. So, I'm in
[2:41:37]
favor of that. It'll make the uh evaluation process
[2:41:41]
that much easier cuz you'll have it
[2:41:42]
right there for him.
[2:41:43]
That's fine.
[2:41:44]
>> Ms. Millman.
[2:41:46]
>> Yeah, I think that um this also was a a
[2:41:48]
question ongoing because the lately, for
[2:41:51]
some reason, after the fact, we're
[2:41:53]
getting a lot of calls on even where is
[2:41:55]
the school budget? Where can I find it?
[2:41:56]
And that hasn't been
[2:41:58]
um accessible to the public either on
[2:42:00]
our site. Um and with that same kind of
[2:42:03]
notion of uploading the the documents is
[2:42:07]
whether or not I mean, this is a little
[2:42:08]
bit out of
[2:42:10]
uh little bit out, but um
[2:42:12]
the city's website and the school's
[2:42:15]
website have two separate different
[2:42:17]
things and they're not connecting either
[2:42:19]
for some reason and maybe that's
[2:42:21]
something that IT in the city and the IT
[2:42:23]
from the school can better connect
[2:42:24]
because agendas are on there on some
[2:42:26]
places
[2:42:28]
where and and not on others. Some say
[2:42:30]
there's a meeting, but doesn't have the
[2:42:31]
agenda and so there's a discrepancy
[2:42:34]
between the two. So, if we are uploading
[2:42:36]
these um documents, which I also think
[2:42:39]
we should, um to have it
[2:42:42]
exist in the places both places or one
[2:42:45]
link to the other would be helpful.
[2:42:51]
» Ms. Dunn.
[2:42:51]
>> I do know that question has come up in
[2:42:53]
the past and at the time we were We were
[2:42:55]
the two systems could not connect.
[2:42:58]
So, I know like
[2:43:00]
probably Mrs. Macarelli probably had to
[2:43:02]
send over the materials that were
[2:43:04]
appearing on the city website
[2:43:07]
because
[2:43:09]
it couldn't that the two systems don't
[2:43:11]
uh
[2:43:13]
the two websites don't talk to each
[2:43:14]
other. That That was my understanding.
[2:43:16]
May have changed now, I don't know. It's
[2:43:19]
worth looking into it and I also think
[2:43:20]
any of this discussion needs to involve
[2:43:23]
Mrs. Macarelli to find out exactly how
[2:43:25]
things are done on that end because um
[2:43:28]
she is the person who knows more than
[2:43:29]
anyone about this.
[2:43:31]
>> No, good topics.
[2:43:32]
>> for Mrs. Macarelli.
[2:43:33]
>> No, good topics. We can look into this
[2:43:35]
more.
[2:43:36]
>> Uh
[2:43:37]
and then just uh wrap up with adding
[2:43:39]
things to our drive. Um I would like to
[2:43:42]
um
[2:43:43]
once the um
[2:43:46]
uh superintendent report is done and um
[2:43:49]
we've discussed it, having it all be put
[2:43:52]
in a folder within our drive for the
[2:43:53]
school year as well. So, there's all of
[2:43:55]
our evaluations as well as the summative
[2:43:58]
report will be there as well.
[2:44:00]
Um just on the drive so it's all in an
[2:44:03]
easily accessible place.
[2:44:05]
>> Okay.
[2:44:06]
>> I think we need to check though. I do
[2:44:08]
not know if our evaluations
[2:44:12]
would be released. That I'm not sure of,
[2:44:15]
but we should check into that as well.
[2:44:16]
>> Okay. We can definitely check. I believe
[2:44:18]
I did read that our evaluations are
[2:44:21]
public as well.
[2:44:22]
>> They could be.
[2:44:23]
>> Um but we can I can definitely look back
[2:44:26]
at where I read that.
[2:44:28]
>> Is it Dr. Pedda?
[2:44:30]
The summary, yeah.
[2:44:34]
They're put into a document.
[2:44:38]
» And then I believe that
[2:44:40]
the mayor completes
[2:44:42]
one for that compiles everything. And
[2:44:44]
so, it still gives ratings in each of
[2:44:46]
the four standards and and it's but it's
[2:44:48]
one evaluation that is shared and that's
[2:44:50]
the superintendent's evaluation. It's a
[2:44:52]
compilation of the six. There's one
[2:44:54]
evaluation report that is that is the
[2:44:56]
compilation. The six individual ones are
[2:44:59]
kind of part of my personnel file, not
[2:45:01]
part of the public document. The one
[2:45:03]
summary and
[2:45:05]
the the the rubric can be completed and
[2:45:07]
all of that can be completed as one
[2:45:09]
compilation of the
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>> So, the chairperson?
[2:45:11]
>> The chairperson completes that, yeah.
[2:45:13]
Takes all the input involved and then
[2:45:15]
provides one document. Just so there's
[2:45:17]
not seven documents. There's there's
[2:45:18]
one.
[2:45:19]
>> Well, like at least that like I I just
[2:45:21]
want it to be on our drive for the
[2:45:23]
school year. That it's there.
[2:45:28]
» All right, thank you. Dr. Cox, next
[2:45:30]
item. Um
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turn it over to you.
[2:45:32]
>> All right. Um okay.
[2:45:34]
So, I'm going to
[2:45:36]
more so read um something that I wrote
[2:45:39]
for this.
[2:45:40]
Um
[2:45:41]
and then it's going to be again just
[2:45:43]
kind of a discussion on where we can
[2:45:46]
move forward with. So,
[2:45:48]
um I want to start the conversation with
[2:45:50]
the committee regarding the culture
[2:45:51]
within our district. And to be clear, I
[2:45:53]
am not referring to our student culture,
[2:45:55]
our school spirit, or whether people
[2:45:57]
genuinely enjoy their jobs here. We know
[2:45:59]
that our Peabody staff love being part
[2:46:02]
of Peabody school systems. Um rather,
[2:46:05]
I'm referring to the professional
[2:46:06]
culture experienced by our teachers,
[2:46:07]
staff, administrators, and faculty
[2:46:09]
members. Um since joining the school
[2:46:11]
committee, one of the most consistent
[2:46:13]
pieces of feedback that I have received
[2:46:15]
from employees across multiple roles,
[2:46:16]
buildings,
[2:46:18]
multiple roles and buildings has been
[2:46:19]
fear of speaking openly about concerns,
[2:46:22]
um offering differing viewpoints, um or
[2:46:25]
challenging existing practices.
[2:46:27]
Many individuals have expressed that
[2:46:29]
they are hesitant to rock the boat out
[2:46:31]
of concern that doing so could
[2:46:32]
negatively impact their professional
[2:46:34]
relationships, opportunities, or
[2:46:36]
standing within the district.
[2:46:38]
Whether these perceptions are accurate
[2:46:40]
or not, um the fact that they are being
[2:46:42]
expressed repeatedly warrants our
[2:46:44]
attention, I believe. Um a healthy
[2:46:47]
organizational culture is one which
[2:46:49]
employees feel safe to ask questions,
[2:46:52]
provide feedback, identify problems,
[2:46:54]
um, and engage in constructive
[2:46:56]
disagreement without the fear of
[2:46:57]
retaliation or adverse consequences. As
[2:47:00]
a school committee, we have a
[2:47:01]
responsibility to ensure that our
[2:47:03]
district fosters an environment where
[2:47:05]
our honest communication is valued and
[2:47:08]
where employees feel empowered to
[2:47:09]
contribute to, um, continuous
[2:47:11]
improvement. Some of the most important,
[2:47:13]
uh, some of the most meaningful growth
[2:47:15]
occurs when individuals feel comfortable
[2:47:17]
identifying challenges and proposing
[2:47:18]
different solutions.
[2:47:20]
Um, I'm not raising the issue to assign
[2:47:22]
any blame or accusations to anyone.
[2:47:24]
Rather, I believe it's important that we
[2:47:25]
acknowledge these concerns seek and seek
[2:47:28]
better understanding of our employee
[2:47:30]
experiences, um, and explore ways to
[2:47:33]
strengthen the trust, um, and
[2:47:34]
communication throughout our school
[2:47:36]
district. Um, again, like I said before,
[2:47:39]
this is just opening a discussion about
[2:47:41]
how we can assess the current climate
[2:47:42]
within our district, identify
[2:47:44]
opportunities for us to, uh, ensure that
[2:47:46]
our employees feel like they can be
[2:47:49]
heard safely and supported, um, in
[2:47:51]
sharing their perspectives, um, and
[2:47:53]
needs. Um, again, this is, I
[2:47:57]
whether they are perceived notions or it
[2:48:01]
is something that has happened in the
[2:48:02]
past, um, this is something that I have,
[2:48:05]
um,
[2:48:06]
had several, uh, teachers and family
[2:48:09]
members come to me, um,
[2:48:11]
and just at my very first park meet up
[2:48:12]
that I did, I had three different staff
[2:48:14]
members talk to me about this, um,
[2:48:16]
saying that they did not want their
[2:48:18]
names, um, connected to the concerns
[2:48:20]
that they were bringing up to me, um,
[2:48:23]
due to the fear of their job. So, um,
[2:48:27]
I just I'm putting it out there for us
[2:48:29]
and it's just something that we can talk
[2:48:31]
uh, our retreat about. Um,
[2:48:36]
that is that is what I have to say right
[2:48:38]
now on it.
[2:48:39]
>> So, I I I just like to make a statement
[2:48:40]
of that. And so, I appreciate you
[2:48:42]
bringing this up.
[2:48:43]
Um
[2:48:44]
and I think that we all have an
[2:48:45]
obligation to have real honest
[2:48:47]
conversations with people.
[2:48:49]
Uh and anonymous complaints and Facebook
[2:48:52]
complaints are not productive.
[2:48:55]
Uh and I will say
[2:48:57]
putting an agenda item that says
[2:48:59]
retaliation in schools
[2:49:01]
is leading. And I think we are a
[2:49:04]
district that has never been with a day
[2:49:09]
without a contract
[2:49:11]
since pre-COVID. That is amazing. Uh
[2:49:14]
when we have teachers come to us from
[2:49:15]
other communities that went in under
[2:49:17]
strike, we talk about the healthy
[2:49:18]
relationship that we have with the
[2:49:19]
union. Uh when people bring things up,
[2:49:22]
they have union representation and we
[2:49:24]
encourage them to do so.
[2:49:26]
Uh we had a a very robust conversation
[2:49:29]
about a a move that some people did not
[2:49:32]
like, uh the TLC move. And people came
[2:49:35]
before us and they spoke at public
[2:49:36]
comment.
[2:49:38]
Were they retaliated against? No, they
[2:49:39]
were rewarded by being put at the top of
[2:49:41]
the transfer list and granted whatever
[2:49:43]
position they wanted. When people speak
[2:49:45]
out,
[2:49:46]
they get it's productive. And and I
[2:49:48]
think that we want to foster that. And I
[2:49:50]
think we don't want to perpetuate a
[2:49:53]
stereotype that is not true. We don't
[2:49:55]
want to perpetuate something we want to
[2:49:57]
encourage people. So, if people say,
[2:49:59]
"Oh, there's a fear of retaliation or uh
[2:50:02]
I want to remain anonymous." That's also
[2:50:04]
not productive. We are professionals
[2:50:06]
here. We should engage in conversations
[2:50:08]
and uncomfortable conversations where we
[2:50:10]
have respectful discourse and we may
[2:50:11]
disagree. They have union
[2:50:13]
representation. It's a violation of the
[2:50:15]
contract if someone retaliates against
[2:50:17]
them and they have protection. We've
[2:50:19]
received zero grievances about
[2:50:20]
retaliation.
[2:50:22]
And the and the and the six years that
[2:50:23]
I've been here, we've received zero
[2:50:24]
because we work together and they are
[2:50:27]
well represented. We have a great
[2:50:28]
relationship with our union. The mayor
[2:50:29]
has a great relationship with the union
[2:50:31]
and and we meet all the time. And so, uh
[2:50:34]
it's frustrating when you hear things
[2:50:35]
like this because I don't want people to
[2:50:37]
feel like that, but I also want to
[2:50:39]
encourage anyone who feels like that to
[2:50:41]
go to their union representation who
[2:50:43]
will protect them, who will speak on
[2:50:45]
their behalf on their behalf and will
[2:50:46]
guarantee that there is no repercussions
[2:50:49]
that will happen. And I and I want to
[2:50:50]
put that out there because I'm very
[2:50:52]
accessible and and and my staff is as
[2:50:54]
well. And if people feel that way, they
[2:50:56]
should go through their union and they
[2:50:57]
should come before us because we also
[2:50:59]
want to hear them. And so not hearing
[2:51:02]
the conversations that they're upset
[2:51:03]
about or that they're concerned about is
[2:51:05]
not productive either. So we want to
[2:51:07]
embrace that and public comment is here.
[2:51:10]
People have spoken out and things get
[2:51:13]
done when when people speak out. That's
[2:51:15]
healthy and I encourage that and and
[2:51:17]
when we stop talking, bad things happen.
[2:51:19]
But let's let's encourage those
[2:51:20]
conversations and so if anybody brings
[2:51:22]
that up, encourage them to go to their
[2:51:24]
union so that they have protection and
[2:51:26]
they have that and the union will bring
[2:51:28]
it to me. They they are not shy and and
[2:51:30]
I am happy to meet and so when when I
[2:51:32]
hear that, um
[2:51:34]
I don't love the fact that the word
[2:51:36]
retaliation is is on the agenda because
[2:51:40]
it it's leading and and and it makes
[2:51:42]
people think that maybe that is
[2:51:43]
happening and
[2:51:45]
we will not tolerate retaliation. And and you know, and I'm here to
[2:51:48]
protect that and so I appreciate you
[2:51:50]
bringing this forward and hopefully this
[2:51:51]
sparks another conversation that says
[2:51:54]
if you say that or you feel that way,
[2:51:56]
you should go to your union member and
[2:51:58]
they should speak to their principal or
[2:52:00]
director or or the superintendent
[2:52:02]
directly because we will not allow that.
[2:52:03]
We we have a very strong relationship
[2:52:05]
with the union and we have a very
[2:52:07]
our union president is very accessible,
[2:52:09]
so is the vice president. They're at
[2:52:11]
everything and and we're happy to meet
[2:52:13]
anytime. So I appreciate you bringing
[2:52:14]
this up and and I hope that we can
[2:52:16]
dispel these rumors and encourage more
[2:52:19]
conversation.
[2:52:20]
>> Thank you and I was very hopeful that is the exact way that you were
[2:52:24]
going to respond. Um that the
[2:52:26]
conversation, the floor is open, that we
[2:52:28]
are available and wanting to have the
[2:52:30]
conversation and open to
[2:52:33]
seeing the differences and accepting
[2:52:35]
changes and you know, that idea that
[2:52:37]
there's not always one way to do
[2:52:39]
something but there are many paths and
[2:52:41]
many different viewpoints and many ways
[2:52:43]
to achieve success. So,
[2:52:45]
um I appreciate your response.
[2:52:48]
>> Thank you.
[2:52:51]
Mr. Mico.
[2:52:53]
Thank you for bringing that up and thank
[2:52:55]
you Dr. Abdalla for your response. I
[2:52:56]
mean, does that happen in some places?
[2:52:58]
I'm sure it does, right? People are
[2:53:00]
human, it happens. There are also state
[2:53:02]
laws against that, too.
[2:53:04]
Um so, um
[2:53:07]
I started off earlier in the night when
[2:53:09]
I said that the profession with the
[2:53:11]
highest turnover and the highest burnout
[2:53:14]
is teaching.
[2:53:15]
There's a reason for that and I think
[2:53:17]
over the years,
[2:53:19]
you know, um if you look in football,
[2:53:21]
the uh the most the the most uh not
[2:53:24]
important but the the the most valuable
[2:53:26]
player is always the backup quarterback.
[2:53:28]
They always want the other guy. You
[2:53:30]
know, we see that with the 10 to 15
[2:53:31]
people in the city who uh you know, want
[2:53:34]
to bash us. You know, they know who they
[2:53:35]
are. You know, bashing the mayor,
[2:53:37]
bashing Dr. Abdalla. We see that, right?
[2:53:40]
And unfortunately, do things happen?
[2:53:43]
Possibly. They certainly happen in other
[2:53:45]
places, but you know, I've I've
[2:53:47]
witnessed it firsthand with Dr. Abdalla
[2:53:49]
calling in union members and and we saw
[2:53:52]
that with with our with our finance
[2:53:53]
meetings. We were very, very clear and
[2:53:56]
open about uh discussions about, you
[2:53:58]
know, our budget. Um these are
[2:54:00]
conversations that are ongoing and and
[2:54:02]
if you have great communication, I and I
[2:54:04]
know we do. We have great communication,
[2:54:06]
the door is open. Um you know, I I've
[2:54:08]
seen it, I've witnessed it firsthand
[2:54:10]
here in Peabody. So, um if people have
[2:54:12]
issues, call us. I I got two text
[2:54:15]
messages last night.
[2:54:17]
And and you know what? It It's not a
[2:54:19]
bother. All our phone numbers are are
[2:54:21]
public. You know, Dr. Abdalla is
[2:54:23]
available. Uh Dr. Chase is available.
[2:54:25]
We're all available. Um
[2:54:27]
so, I I I would just say that yeah, I I
[2:54:30]
there's something in there that we can
[2:54:32]
certainly use.
[2:54:34]
Um
[2:54:34]
is morale where it is? I don't think
[2:54:36]
morale is great anywhere. I'm going to
[2:54:38]
be honest with you. When when when
[2:54:40]
teachers are at the top of the burnout
[2:54:43]
list
[2:54:44]
of professions,
[2:54:46]
okay, where you are, whether you're in
[2:54:47]
Wellesley, you know, or Winchester or
[2:54:49]
Peabody, wherever, you're going to have
[2:54:50]
morale issues. You certainly are. You
[2:54:53]
know, we'll we'll be you know, you want
[2:54:54]
to have honest conversations. We would
[2:54:55]
be lying to ourselves and to the public
[2:54:58]
if we didn't say that there are morale
[2:55:00]
issues. There are morale issues
[2:55:01]
everywhere. That's That's a microcosm of
[2:55:04]
this country, like I said earlier. When
[2:55:06]
we start taking education and teachers
[2:55:08]
serious, we'll see improvements in
[2:55:10]
education. And until then, we're going
[2:55:13]
to still have the same.
[2:55:14]
Thank you.
[2:55:15]
>> Thank you, Mr. Mico. Ms. Milman.
[2:55:19]
» Um I appreciate you putting it on for
[2:55:21]
the agenda because I think everything
[2:55:23]
that everyone's saying is so true and it
[2:55:25]
but it wasn't being said on the floor
[2:55:27]
and aloud.
[2:55:29]
And and that's the point and I believe
[2:55:31]
that was the point of bringing it up
[2:55:33]
because we did hear this. We did hear it
[2:55:35]
last year. City Council heard it and
[2:55:37]
then people felt it fell on deaf ears
[2:55:39]
because it wasn't addressed. I know that
[2:55:42]
emails that I'm receiving and phone
[2:55:43]
calls I'm receiving, I am telling people
[2:55:46]
there's a chair, we have public comment
[2:55:48]
all the time, come and speak up. I have
[2:55:51]
referred folks also to talk to the
[2:55:53]
union. I have referred them to talk
[2:55:55]
directly to people. Um I think that it
[2:55:58]
is important that we do address when
[2:56:00]
these things come up so it isn't because
[2:56:03]
we're not permitted,
[2:56:04]
albeit I'm sure we can be, to talk
[2:56:06]
during back to people at public comment,
[2:56:09]
the people want to know it's not falling
[2:56:11]
on deaf ears. And so I think just that
[2:56:14]
we're having this discussion and you
[2:56:16]
rightfully responded in the way you did,
[2:56:18]
doesn't negate the fact that that's the
[2:56:19]
way people feel. But if they also don't
[2:56:22]
take the next step and go the channels
[2:56:24]
that need to go, then there's nothing
[2:56:27]
more we can all do collectively than
[2:56:29]
they're just talking in my ear or
[2:56:30]
emailing to my for my read. The
[2:56:32]
important thing is we hear people. We
[2:56:35]
want them to continue to talk to us and
[2:56:37]
know that you have said exactly what we
[2:56:40]
would anticipate you to say as well as
[2:56:42]
what Mr. Amico said as well. We are all
[2:56:44]
available. We do want to hear it, but
[2:56:46]
there are the right channels. And it's a
[2:56:48]
matter of saying we do hear you. That
[2:56:50]
was what was felt. Those were the words
[2:56:52]
used. I know you don't like it, but
[2:56:54]
those were the words used and I think it
[2:56:56]
was right to be put on the agenda like
[2:56:59]
that so that was heard. We heard it and
[2:57:01]
we're addressing it. And so and people
[2:57:03]
know that we were the their comments are
[2:57:06]
not falling on deaf ears. In relation to
[2:57:09]
specifically the note of retaliation,
[2:57:12]
there are avenues to go. If you're an
[2:57:14]
employee here, there are avenues to go
[2:57:17]
and you should know what they are and we
[2:57:18]
can help you find them if you're unsure.
[2:57:21]
Um but it but but this is what it's
[2:57:23]
about. Not everybody is going to always
[2:57:24]
be happy with even the response, but
[2:57:26]
that doesn't mean it's retaliatory. And
[2:57:29]
so um I appreciate it and I'm glad we're
[2:57:31]
having this discussion and it's not an
[2:57:33]
easy one, but it's one that again if
[2:57:35]
people do come to public comment, know
[2:57:37]
we are hearing them and we're going to
[2:57:38]
follow through.
[2:57:41]
» Thank you. This is done?
[2:57:53]
Mr. Olimpio?
[2:58:01]
» I'd like to say it's very good that
[2:58:02]
people trust you enough to come to you,
[2:58:04]
which is always the position as a school
[2:58:06]
committee member we want to be. We want
[2:58:08]
to be open. We want to hear what people
[2:58:10]
have to say and then we need to be able
[2:58:12]
to follow through.
[2:58:13]
It happens all the time.
[2:58:16]
And I can tell you that when people call
[2:58:18]
me and they're talking about their fears
[2:58:21]
and they have, you know, concerns or
[2:58:23]
examples of retaliation,
[2:58:26]
what I always ask them is,
[2:58:28]
"Can I Can I bring this to the
[2:58:30]
superintendent?"
[2:58:31]
Many times they'll say, "Please do."
[2:58:33]
Other times they'll say, "I don't want
[2:58:34]
my name used." I always ask, "Do you
[2:58:36]
want my your name used? Do you want me
[2:58:38]
to share your email?"
[2:58:40]
I always call the superintendent
[2:58:43]
to give him heads-up about what's going
[2:58:45]
on.
[2:58:46]
And if someone didn't want their name
[2:58:47]
used, and if I and if I'm able to give
[2:58:51]
him
[2:58:52]
examples of what's going on without
[2:58:53]
being really truly too specific where if
[2:58:56]
there is retaliation going on with that
[2:58:58]
person their privacy would be violated,
[2:59:01]
their confidence to me would be
[2:59:02]
violated, I won't do it. But Dr. Vidal
[2:59:05]
and I have had numerous conversations.
[2:59:09]
Sometimes I have called him
[2:59:12]
raging
[2:59:13]
>> [laughter]
[2:59:14]
>> about something that was brought to me,
[2:59:17]
and he has always followed through. And
[2:59:19]
I have always followed through with the
[2:59:20]
people just to let them know that I did
[2:59:22]
hear them. I did what I could, but at
[2:59:25]
some point it does end up on them.
[2:59:28]
But I also want them to know they are
[2:59:31]
not alone,
[2:59:32]
that I do appreciate what they're
[2:59:34]
saying.
[2:59:35]
And if you hear it from enough people,
[2:59:38]
then Dr. Vidal
[2:59:40]
has
[2:59:41]
that capability of saying, "Wait a
[2:59:43]
minute.
[2:59:44]
This is going on
[2:59:45]
continuously."
[2:59:46]
And he looks into it, and I know he
[2:59:48]
does.
[2:59:49]
So, it's a tough situation,
[2:59:52]
but it's one that we all face as a
[2:59:54]
school committee member, and the only
[2:59:56]
thing we can do is be able to support
[2:59:58]
people
[2:59:59]
to be able to feel
[3:00:01]
secure
[3:00:02]
and heard.
[3:00:05]
» Thank you, Mr.
[3:00:06]
Olimpio.
[3:00:08]
>> Thank you, and thank you for bringing
[3:00:09]
this up, Dr. Cox. Um yeah, I mean,
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that's what
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Imagine in this day and age
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people, if there was some retaliation
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going on
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ev- everyone, all there's all eyes on
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everybody. Uh, maybe 30 years ago, uh,
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things were different, but in this day
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and age, I can't imagine
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uh, a staff, you know, an employee, uh,
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being retaliated against a superior, you
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know, from the superior or even a
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parent. I mean, I know a lot of parents
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I mean, I have a special needs child
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myself, so
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their fear is, "Gee, if I say something,
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then
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they're going to hold it against me."
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And I encourage them that that is simply
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not the case. And some people have that
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perceived notion. I mean, I know I've
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felt that way at times when things
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weren't going exactly correct, but you
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do have to speak up and I encourage them
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to do it, you know, in a respectful way
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and usually there's a lot of traction
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from that. A lot of positive outcomes,
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uh,
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come from it over the past, uh, 6 years
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or so
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to Ms. Dunn's point, uh, parents have
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said to me, "No, don't use my name." So,
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I'll reach out to the proper people and
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somehow it gets it does get resolved.
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And sometimes if there isn't a situation
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that can't be resolved, then I mean, it
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does, okay? Um, nobody
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I'm not saying that's never happened,
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but I can't I In this day and age, it
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just doesn't it just won't happen. It
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just it won't be tolerated, either. Can
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you imagine
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a parent being retaliated against and
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it's documented? I mean, heads would
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roll. I mean, heads I mean, heads would
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roll.
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And, uh, so, I mean, that's a great
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you're bringing it up. We all deal with
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it but, you know, you just have to make,
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you know, those parents comfortable
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that, you know, their voices will be
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heard. I mean, I
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I'm there. I mean, my son can't talk for
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himself.
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So, I'm just I'm in that boat. Some
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people forget that. They forget that I
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have a child in in the you know, in the
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district. So.
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Thank you.
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>> Thank you, Mr. Olympia.
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All right. Good discussion.
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>> Yeah, I really appreciate everyone's
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input.
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I I brought it up as you know, Ms. Dunn
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said like you want that trust. You want
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them to keep coming back. I've I wanted
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to bring it to the table as it was
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something that was brought to me by
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several people and so I'm very very
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happy with this discussion that we've
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had. So, I appreciate it. Thanks
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everyone.
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>> Thank you.
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All right. We have a last item, Dr. Cox.
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I'll turn it back to you.
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>> All right. After our lively end of our
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last school committee meeting discussing subcommittees,
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I wanted to bring forth
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I know
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Ms. Carpenter's not here cuz she was the
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one that requested to have something
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more formally presented on what type of
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committee or liaison position
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I would be interested in proposing.
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And so
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after lots of different um
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renditions of this
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and through talking and looking at other
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school committees and other
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subcommittees that are in various
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districts around us and dark districts,
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I have come up with student engagement
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and community relations liaison. So,
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similarly to how we have our parent and
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student advisory boards, our city
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council and legislative delegation and
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then our
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special education parent advisory board,
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this would be essentially your
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connection to our student engagement,
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right? So, the purpose of this liaison
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position would be to strengthen
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connections between students, schools,
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families and the broader community by
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promoting awareness, accessibility and
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participation in district programs,
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activities and initiatives. The liaison would
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review and recommend strategies that can
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enhance student engagement, create
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celebrate student achievement, support
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transparent communication, and foster
[3:04:12]
meaningful community involvement in the
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life of the district.
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Um
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some potential areas of responsibility
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could be reviewing participation,
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accessibility, and engagement trends in
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extracurricular and co-curricular
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activities, which could include arts, um
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government, student um
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clubs, enrichment programs, all of that.
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Um supporting
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efforts to expand equitable access to
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student activities, clubs, and athletic,
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performing, visual arts, performances,
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programs, etc. Um
[3:04:48]
identifying opportunities to strengthen
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student engagement,
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um supporting the
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dissemination of information regarding
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school committee initiatives, student
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programming, district-wide events,
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community opportunities within our
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schools.
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Um so, just kind of all the things that
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we've been saying that I think are just
[3:05:05]
getting pieces that are missed. This
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could kind of be that like
[3:05:08]
all-encompassing liaison of people would
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send people, clubs, organizations would
[3:05:13]
have one point of contact, that one
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point of contact would get the
[3:05:16]
information out to everyone in uh
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whether it be Facebook, website,
[3:05:21]
whatever is deemed appropriate. Um
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that way
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all of the different groups and
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organizations would be more
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um included in
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the dissemination of all the information
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that's happening and all the good that's
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going on within our district.
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» Okay, thank you.
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Open that up. Yes, Ms. Dunn.
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» I'm going to be really honest.
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To me, it sounds like
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we have staff that are charged with with
[3:05:55]
doing that, and I just think that this
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is something that
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we should probably refer to the
[3:06:01]
superintendent
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to possibly clarify how the staff
[3:06:09]
do all of that work with the
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um coordination of activities, the
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coordination of calendar, the uh
[3:06:17]
distribution of information, the
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publications. I've always said we need a
[3:06:21]
PR person. I have I will continue to say
[3:06:24]
that because there is so much going on
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in the district.
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But,
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it really sounds more like a
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is a a a
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list of duties for a staff person as
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opposed to a school committee member
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doing that. Um
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that is that is really
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uh
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really a huge amount
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of information to be coordinating,
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um looking at data
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for student engagement. I mean, every activity Dr. Chase, everything you
[3:07:00]
have done, everything that um
[3:07:02]
you know, all of those activities that
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the district has done
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have always been
[3:07:08]
analyzed afterwards to see did we get
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the message out to people? You know, I I
[3:07:14]
think it goes back to our
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Honestly, our website, which you know I
[3:07:18]
complain about all the time. If we could
[3:07:21]
make that better, I think that would
[3:07:22]
help with people being engaged. But, I
[3:07:25]
do think that that is so vast, it's more
[3:07:28]
of an employee
[3:07:29]
than it would be for a school committee
[3:07:32]
subcommittee or liaison. I really really
[3:07:34]
do think it needs to be looked at
[3:07:36]
further, and I'd like to
[3:07:38]
refer it to Dr. Vedala.
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>> I'd like to jump in cuz I think this is
[3:07:42]
a another discussion that we need to
[3:07:44]
have cuz I think a lot of what Dr. Clark
[3:07:46]
has brought up, there there's better
[3:07:49]
there's there's better ways for us to do
[3:07:51]
it as a as a committee, as a district.
[3:07:54]
And that's that's on the city side as
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well.
[3:07:57]
Sometimes I feel like a lot of the
[3:07:58]
information isn't getting out as it
[3:08:00]
should on the city side as well. Um
[3:08:03]
Dr. Carcs, I wanted to ask
[3:08:05]
Can we take this in and can we have this
[3:08:07]
as a point of discussion at the retreat
[3:08:09]
cuz I think this could be a
[3:08:11]
really important topic for the at the
[3:08:13]
retreat to have a real robust discussion
[3:08:15]
on cuz I do think this is an area not
[3:08:17]
again not just on the school side but on
[3:08:19]
the city side as well that um we could
[3:08:22]
do a better job with. So we rather than
[3:08:24]
getting into it tonight um I think it
[3:08:27]
might be helpful to take that in
[3:08:30]
have give it some thought in
[3:08:31]
anticipation of the retreat uh in August
[3:08:34]
and I think this could be a real good
[3:08:35]
discussion point at that at that time.
[3:08:37]
>> And thank you. I would be very open to
[3:08:39]
this as well. I do I do see there's a
[3:08:41]
need here. You know, and I think there's
[3:08:42]
a need on the city side as well. So uh
[3:08:44]
you know, I encourage this type of
[3:08:46]
discussion and I think this is a a good
[3:08:48]
thing to discuss moving forward.
[3:08:50]
>> I'm I'm comfortable with putting it on
[3:08:53]
the docket for the retreat as well.
[3:08:54]
>> Great.
[3:08:55]
>> Just wanted to continue what we started
[3:08:57]
last
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>> Yep.
[3:08:58]
Oh, good topics tonight. These These
[3:09:01]
were really good discussions I thought
[3:09:02]
we had as a committee tonight. Um
[3:09:05]
Yeah, I thought I thought this was very
[3:09:06]
well done. Really good points made
[3:09:09]
uh in a number of areas that I think we
[3:09:10]
needed to discuss as a community. So
[3:09:12]
that's great.
[3:09:13]
All right, that completes our agenda. So
[3:09:16]
we do have those August meetings lined
[3:09:17]
up. Certainly if there does comes
[3:09:19]
something comes up of
[3:09:21]
real great magnitude or importance
[3:09:24]
we can always set up a meeting.
[3:09:26]
Uh but let's keep those dates for now.
[3:09:29]
Um
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And yes, I hope uh
[3:09:33]
another successful school year comes to
[3:09:35]
a close. A lot of work ahead of us. So
[3:09:37]
thank you everybody and I hope everybody
[3:09:39]
has a terrific summer.
[3:09:40]
>> tomorrow we have Brooksby Farm?
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>> Oh, I do sure.
[3:09:45]
Um
[3:09:47]
Brooksby Farm tomorrow. I I frightened
[3:09:49]
some people cuz tomorrow and I put out a
[3:09:51]
community message that we're having a
[3:09:53]
ceremony at Briggsby Farm at 10:00 a.m.
[3:09:56]
tomorrow uh to announce the 50th
[3:10:00]
anniversary of the city's purchase of
[3:10:01]
Briggsby Farm, which was an amazing
[3:10:03]
community effort that took place 50
[3:10:05]
years ago. Want to identify a number of
[3:10:07]
people, unsung heroes, people that
[3:10:09]
really made that happen. It is one of
[3:10:11]
the the true jewels of our community and
[3:10:13]
we'll speak more to that. But So I had
[3:10:16]
people reaching out about thinking it
[3:10:17]
was a celebration. The celebrations are
[3:10:20]
coming later in the fall. Uh we're going
[3:10:22]
to speak to that tomorrow. But yeah,
[3:10:24]
there's no celebrations tomorrow.
[3:10:26]
Tomorrow's just a ceremony. We're going
[3:10:27]
to have a couple of speakers. Um and
[3:10:30]
I'll talk about a little bit of the
[3:10:31]
history. So if anybody's able to join
[3:10:33]
us, come down. It should be really
[3:10:34]
interesting. I've learned a lot about
[3:10:36]
the city. I thought I knew a lot about
[3:10:38]
the what took place with the Briggsby
[3:10:40]
Farm. But we have 275 acres of land in
[3:10:43]
the city that is just beautiful. Uh that
[3:10:46]
was the result of a lot of hard working
[3:10:47]
people that um volunteers came together
[3:10:51]
to preserve a great asset for us. So
[3:10:54]
But yeah, there's no music. There's no
[3:10:56]
hay rides tomorrow. There's no Well,
[3:10:58]
maybe a hay ride or two. There's no
[3:10:59]
music. There's no games. There's It's
[3:11:02]
not uh That stuff's coming later in the
[3:11:04]
year.
[3:11:07]
Chicopee does exist. I maybe should make
[3:11:09]
sure I
[3:11:10]
>> [laughter]
[3:11:11]
>> I might have got I might have got myself
[3:11:12]
in trouble with that.
[3:11:16]
Motion to adjourn everyone. Thank you.
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Chicopee does exist.
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» Mhm.