[0:09] Hello everyone. Uh we're starting off tonight. We have Jim Council Kushman who

[0:13] sends his regrets. He's not feeling well. Um other opening comments. I want

[0:19] to just uh make a comment. We've lost on last Friday former mayor of Perry

[0:24] Township. He was with us from 1994 to 2010, Bill Core. I'm sure he will be

[0:30] messed around Clear Lake. He was from Clear Lake for many many years and uh

[0:35] send our regrets to his family. Uh the other thing I wanted to mention

[0:40] is uh through our fire department, I saw on Facebook we also had two firemen

[0:45] move up in the ranks a little bit. Uh finally getting their final NFPA I think

[0:51] is what they call it or something like that. So they are now full-fledged

[0:54] firemen and we uh say thank you to them for for that. Also,

[0:59] um I was hoping our fire chief would be here tonight, but he's on another

[1:02] course. So, uh thank you, Douglas, for getting all

[1:07] those things lined up and moving through for the for the fire department.

[1:11] Um I ask if any councelor declaring pecun interest for this meeting or

[1:16] previous meeting. Councelor Kushman, sorry, councelor uh councelor Lmley,

[1:20] » no. >> Uh councelor McFale,

[1:23] » no. >> Councelor Ser,

[1:25] » no. >> Thank you. Um be it resolved council

[1:29] corporation township of Perry approves the minutes of the following meetings

[1:32] presented 3.1 regular meeting minutes of Wednesday December 17th 2025.

[1:38] Council McFale do you move? >> I move.

[1:41] » Councelor Lumbly, do you second? >> I'll second.

[1:43] » I'll ask if anybody has any questions or comments and the vote at the same time.

[1:48] Councelor McFale. >> Uh no questions. Yay.

[1:52] » Uh councelor Lumley. >> No questions. I vote yay.

[1:54] » Councelor Sar, >> no questions. Yay. Let's carry it.

[2:06] Be resolved. Council Corporation of Township of Perry does now adjourn from

[2:10] this regular meeting at uh 7:01 p.m.

[2:16] to commence a public meeting for the purpose of zoning bylaw amendment for

[2:20] the lands less described as part of lot 33 part of lot 34 concession 8 and the

[2:25] township of Perry designated as parts 1 2 and three on plan 42R22881

[2:31] located at 12 Mdale Lake Road and 271 Carne Road. Uh, councelor Sry, do you

[2:38] move? >> I move.

[2:39] » Councelor McVale, will you second? >> I second.

[2:42] » I'll call for the vote. Councelor Sarry, >> yay.

[2:44] » Councelor Mcale, >> yay.

[2:46] » Councelor Lley, >> yay.

[2:48] » That's carried. >> Thank you.

[2:51] » Thanks.

[3:03] Uh, be it resolved that Council of Corporation Township Fairy receives a

[3:06] report prepared by Jordan Ross, development and planning coordinator,

[3:10] intern for lands legal, described as part of lot 33, part of lot 34,

[3:15] concession 8, Township of Perry, designated as part one, two, and three

[3:18] on plan 42R, 22881, located at 12 Male Lake Road and 271 Carney Road. Councelor

[3:26] Lumley, do you move? I do. >> Uh, councelor Mcale, do you second?

[3:30] » I second. >> Uh, anybody have any comments? Uh, or

[3:35] and I'll ask for the vote at the same time. Uh, councelor Sary,

[3:39] » no comments. I >> councelor Lmley,

[3:42] » I have no questions. I vote yay. >> Councelor McFale.

[3:45] » No questions. I vote yay. >> That was carried.

[3:56] This is kind of the long boring part of the meeting. My folks

[4:03] I think we have >> my volume.

[4:06] » Are they on? Okay. >> I have somebody else on but I don't know

[4:09] who they are. Could phone in. Okay. Uh this evening there is a public meeting

[4:14] to hear public comments and answer questions regarding the propos proposed

[4:17] zoning bylaw amendments for lands legally described as part of lot 33 part

[4:21] of lot 34 concession 8 township of Perry designated as parts 1 2 and three on

[4:26] plan 42R 22881. The planning act requires a statutory

[4:32] public meeting be held to receive these comments and to allow for the public

[4:36] input before council decides whether or not to pass the bylaw. The public

[4:40] meeting is conducted as follows. The clerk administrator will advise as to

[4:44] when, how, and to whom notice of the public meeting was circulated and will

[4:47] confirm proper notice was giving given. She will then list the written

[4:51] submissions received regarding the proposed amendment and provide

[4:54] background on the application. After the clerk administrator has provided an

[4:58] overview of the application, the applicant may make presentation. The

[5:02] public meeting is not a public debate on the matter, but the public will be

[5:05] afforded the opportunity to provide their comments or questions.

[5:09] Those people providing comments or questions are asked to present them

[5:12] through the chair. Council will then have the opportunity to question the

[5:16] applicants or township staff. Council will consider the zoning bylaw amendment

[5:20] at the February 4th, 2026 meeting of council. All persons addressing council

[5:25] must state their full name and mailing address and must direct their comments

[5:30] through the chair. Miss Morton, would you please advise how and to whom notice

[5:33] of the public meeting was circulated and provide background on the application.

[5:37] After Miss Morton has provided an overview of the application, the

[5:40] applicant may make presentation. >> Notice of this public meeting was given

[5:45] by posting the application on the township's website, www.tanchofperry.ca

[5:51] CA on December 5th, 2025, posting it at the property and forwarding it to all

[5:57] persons and public bodies as prescribed under Ontario Planning Act regulation,

[6:02] including owners within 120 meters of the applicant's property and to those

[6:06] requested. The purpose of the proposed bylaw is to reszone a portion of the

[6:11] land shown as part one on plan 42R 22881 from the rural zone to the rural

[6:17] residential zone. land shown as part two on plan 42R22881

[6:23] from the rural zone to the rural residential exception 14 zone to allow

[6:28] for a storage garage to be located on the lands prior to the principal

[6:32] building and land shown as part three on 42R

[6:36] 22881 from the rural zone to the rural

[6:39] residential exception 15 zone to allow for a reduced minimum required front

[6:44] yard of 11 m for a garage. The reasonzoning is a condition of consent

[6:49] applications B 2925, 3025, and 3125

[6:55] filed with the Southeast Perry Sound District Planning Board. In creating the

[6:59] lots, part two has an existing 37.2 meter storage and part three has an

[7:05] existing 98.8 square meter dwelling and existing 194.7

[7:11] meter garage with an 11 m front yard. This application will bring all proposed

[7:17] newly created lots into compliance with zoning bylaw 201421.

[7:22] In all other respects, the provisions of zoning bylaw 201421

[7:26] shall apply. A full report was presented to council and staff are recommending

[7:31] approval of the application. >> I now declare this a public meeting to

[7:35] deal with proposed zoning bylaw amendment. Is the applicant or their

[7:39] agent present and wishing to make comment? I know there's online

[7:50] » gone. >> We lost them. [laughter] Okay, because I

[7:54] did see them up there, I thought. Um,

[7:59] I would ask those members of the public who wish to speak in connection with

[8:02] proposed zoning bylaw amendment to clearly state their name, full address,

[8:05] and postal code for the record. Is there anyone online wanting to speak to this?

[8:13] There it is. That's That's everybody that's there.

[8:18] Miss Martin, can you advise uh the public as to what correspondence has

[8:22] been received with respect to the application?

[8:25] » As of 4:30 p.m. today, staff have received no comments on the application.

[8:30] » Are there any questions or comments from council to the applicant or township

[8:34] staff? Councelor Lley, >> I have no questions.

[8:38] » Councelor Zary, >> no questions here. Councelor McFale, any

[8:41] questions? >> No questions here.

[8:43] » You those wishing to receive further notice of decision of the zoning bylaw

[8:48] must make written make a

[8:52] must make a written request as per previous instruction. Council will

[8:55] consider the proposed bylaw the February 4th, 2026 meeting council. Once council

[9:00] makes a decision on the bylaw, please be advised that there's a 20-day appeal

[9:04] period from the date of notice of decision of the bylaw during which time

[9:08] any spec uh [clears throat] specific person or public body may appeal the

[9:13] decision of council to the Ontario Land Tribunal. Having received questions and

[9:17] comments from the public council, I declare this public meeting to be

[9:21] concluded.

[9:29] Beers, the council corporation of tenants Perry now adjourns from this

[9:33] public meeting at 7:09 p.m.

[9:42] in order to recommence a regular meeting of council Wednesday, January 21st,

[9:46] 2026. Councelor Sry, do you move? >> I move.

[9:48] » Councelor McFale, do you second? >> I second.

[9:51] » Call for the vote. Councelor McFale, >> yay.

[9:55] » Councelor Sry, >> yay. buried.

[10:06] The result of the council of Corporation Township of Perry does now adjourn from

[10:10] this regular meeting at 7:10 p.m. to commence a public meeting for the

[10:17] purpose of zoning bylaw amendment for lands legally described as part of lot

[10:21] 30 plan 167 township of Perry located at 27 Lost Lane. Uh, councelor McFale, do

[10:27] you move? >> I move.

[10:29] » Councelor Lumley, do you second? >> I'll second.

[10:31] » I'll call for the vote. Uh, councelor McFale.

[10:34] » Yay. >> Councelor Lumley.

[10:36] » Councelor Sar. >> Carried.

[10:46] It resolved. The council of corporation of township of Perry receives a report

[10:49] prepared by Jordan Ross development and planning coordinator interm for lands

[10:53] legally described as part of lot 30 plan 167 in the township of Perry located at

[10:59] 27 Moss Lane. Councelor Lumley, do you move?

[11:02] » Do move. >> Councelor Sally, do you second?

[11:03] » I second. >> I'll call for the vote. Uh, councelor

[11:07] Sry. >> Councelor McFale.

[11:09] » Yay. >> Councelor Lumley, yay.

[11:11] » And that was carried.

[11:32] body on for this. Okay. >> No.

[11:37] » No, I don't know. >> Okay.

[11:39] » I don't know who that person is. >> Uh, this evening is a public meeting to

[11:43] hear public comments and answer questions regarding a proposed zoning

[11:47] bylaw amendment for lands legally described as part of lot 30, plan 167 in

[11:51] the township of Perry. The planning act requires that a statutory public meeting

[11:55] be held to receive these comments and to allow for public input before council

[11:59] decides whether or not to pass the bylaw. The public meeting is conducted

[12:03] as follows. The clerk administrator will advise as to when, how, and whom notice

[12:08] of the public meeting was circulated and will confirm proper notice was given.

[12:12] She will then list the written submissions received regarding the

[12:15] proposed amendment and provide a background on this application. After

[12:19] the clerk administrator has provided an overview of the application, the

[12:23] applicant may make presentation. The public meeting is not a public debate on

[12:27] the matter. The public will be afforded the opportunity to provide their

[12:30] comments or questions. Those people providing comments or questions are

[12:35] asked to present them through the chair. Council will then have the opportunity

[12:38] to question the applicants or township staff. Council will consider the zoning

[12:43] bylaw amendment at the February 4th, 2026 meeting of council. All persons

[12:48] addressing council must state their full name and full mailing address and must

[12:52] direct their comments to the chair. Miss Morton, would you please advise as to

[12:56] how and to whom notice of the public meeting was circulated and provide

[12:59] background on the application. After Miss Morton has provided an overview of

[13:03] the application, the applicant may make presentation

[13:07] only if you wish to. >> Notice of this public meeting was given

[13:11] by posting the application on the township's website www.tanchperry.ca

[13:16] CA on December 5th, 2025, posting it at the property and forwarding it to all

[13:20] persons and public bodies as prescribed under the Ontario Planning Act

[13:24] regulation, including owners within 120 meters of the applicant's property and

[13:29] to those requested. The purpose of the proposed bylaw is to reszone the lands

[13:33] from the shoreline residential zone to the shoreline residential exception 52

[13:37] zone. The purpose of the proposed application is to allow for a reduced

[13:42] minimum required front yard of 12.8 8 m for a dwelling and a reduced mineral

[13:47] required front yard of 9.7 m for an attached deck to be located within the

[13:51] vegetative buffer and to allow an increase to the maximum area of decks

[13:55] and docks within 30 meters of the shoreline from 60 m to 81.77

[14:00] m. The proposed dwelling will be 124.12 m and have 50.56 square meters of deck

[14:07] attached. The existing 62.5 square meter dwelling located on the subject lands

[14:12] will be demolished and replaced with the proposed dwelling in all other section

[14:17] provisions in zoning file 201421 shall apply. A full report was presented to

[14:23] council and staff are recommending approval of the application

[14:29] paper. >> Um I now declare this public meeting to

[14:33] deal with the proposed zoning bylaw amendment. Is the applicant or their

[14:37] agent present wishing to make a comment? Any comments?

[14:41] » Go. >> No comment.

[14:42] » Uh, I would ask the members of the public who wish to speak in connection

[14:45] with the proposed zoning bylaw amendment clearly state their name, full address,

[14:49] and postal code for the record. And do we have anybody online that is wishing

[14:53] to speak to the matter?

[14:59] » Uh, Don Don Mccanei. I'm uh own the property

[15:06] right beside North Cliff, formerly North Cliff Lodge. I currently reside um at

[15:11] 2395 Delaware Avenue, Space 74, Santa Cruz, California.

[15:17] Um I had a question about the 30 meter setback and what the purpose is of it

[15:25] and how we decide that it's okay to to be within that setback.

[15:33] Did you want to speak to that? >> I can a little bit if you want.

[15:35] » Sure. >> So, one of the one of the reasons is if

[15:38] under new development, uh it would be restricted to be at least uh 30 mters

[15:43] back from the shore road uh from the shore.

[15:48] One of the things that happens is when we're de when we're going into uh

[15:52] development of properties that already have been developed on um and this is

[15:57] partic in this case it's also a building already the structure that's been there

[16:02] for many many years has been used as a cottage and I believe now they're using

[16:06] it as a as a home and when the township looks at this we look at where where

[16:11] exactly it is located on the lot and and uh a lot of times we'll find that on a

[16:18] lot of the lots today around lakes there's only one location you can put a

[16:21] building on on the lot because of uh just the topography of the lot the land

[16:26] itself um and it's also one of the things where

[16:29] if we start pushing people back a lot further than the other cottages on the

[16:34] lake it kind of offsets the cottage so suddenly there's a somebody looking in

[16:38] the backyard or somebody's cottage next door all the time so we can we try to

[16:43] keep it pretty consistent that where it is now it lines up with the other

[16:46] cottages probably within that area on the on the shore road. So that's why we

[16:51] have a a look at how we're developing and where it's going and whether or not

[16:55] it will be um accepted under those terms.

[17:03] » So if I was to build an on the north cliff lot which is right beside it, I

[17:09] would have to also be that close to the lake so that I'm not looking in his back

[17:16] window. No, no. I believe there's actually part of a lot between some of

[17:21] your lot and where that lot is. You would be required to stay back the the

[17:26] 90 m, >> the 100 feet, I should say. 30 mters.

[17:31] » 30 m. I would be required to stay back the 30 m from

[17:37] my shoreline. Yes. >> But he doesn't. Even though there was an

[17:40] existing building where on my lot. No, because your existing building's

[17:46] been gone probably for 50 years already. Correct. And I believe your existing

[17:51] building was back fairly far from the water, too.

[17:54] » It was. But that's what I'm concerned about. If I build up on that hill, is

[17:58] that going to be allowed? >> You're saying that we have to be all

[18:03] kind of in the same area? Yeah. North Cliff where the lodge was was up on the

[18:08] hill. So, it set back even more than 30 meters.

[18:11] » Are you Are you wanting to build Are you wanting to build up on the hill?

[18:18] » Yes. >> I don't think we're going to have a

[18:20] problem with that because you're back more than the than the 30 meters.

[18:25] » Okay. I just wondered because you said, you know, you wanted them kind of all in

[18:29] the same uh level, you know, so that somebody isn't set back and then looking

[18:35] into the backyard of somebody else's place.

[18:37] » So, I was curious about that. And then also, is it true that there's a second

[18:42] dock on the lot? Like I think it might be on that part of the which is a whole

[18:49] other issue for me, the chunk of property that is missing essentially

[18:54] from our my lot. Um I was never notified that that was going up for tax sale and

[19:02] it's literally half my shoreline. Um, and so that that's a a separate

[19:08] issue, but I just wonder like what are the rules about docks? Like

[19:13] » maybe for >> can you have as many docks as you want?

[19:17] » No, the dock actually is also in falls under the building code where it's added

[19:22] into the square footage of when you're building on your lot today.

[19:27] » Okay. >> If I can add, Mr. Mayor. So, I'll add a

[19:30] couple things on that. When you're talking about your specific lot, I'd

[19:34] have to look at the size of your lot because we do have some exceptions that

[19:37] are built into the zoning bylaw that do allow a 25% redu reduction if you're an

[19:43] existing undersized lot. Sometimes the lots on Clear Lake are that. So that

[19:47] would allow a 22.5 meter um distance from the lake. So that's something that

[19:53] can be looked at specifically when we're looking at your property.

[19:57] um the other property that you're referring to, that is a separate um lot.

[20:01] So, I don't have information tonight to specify um what is existing on that

[20:05] property because the property we're talking about is the property to the

[20:09] south of it. So, it's a separate one. Um our zoning bylaw does specify um the

[20:15] number of docks that you can have and you have to have extensive amount of

[20:20] shoreline to allow for um more than one dock on the property. And there are very

[20:26] specifics on the maximum size, how far it can go out, that's all outlined in

[20:31] the zoning bylaw. So if you're prepared and you want to come forward with a

[20:34] development, we can go over a lot of that at that time.

[20:38] » Okay. >> And I believe there is

[20:43] » like set out right. So the and the other thing too um with

[20:50] that property, a dock is an accessory structure to a principal use. So you

[20:57] can't have a dock on a property if you don't have the principal use. Having

[21:02] said that, there may be specific properties at one time they've had had a

[21:06] dock or might have had a dwelling and the dwelling's been since tore down and

[21:09] the the dock sitting there would be considered um like a legal legal

[21:14] non-complying use. But, uh generally speaking, like sheds, garage, docks,

[21:19] things like that are are accessory to the principal dwelling. So, if you're if

[21:25] you're looking at um anything on your particular property, that could give

[21:29] that information as well. Yeah. Okay. No, I was thinking about the

[21:35] lot beside. I don't know where the second dock is. I can't see it on the

[21:39] site plan. Um, so I'll look into that. Um, the fish habitat part of this

[21:46] because it is zoned fish habitat one according to your zoning bylaws. Is that

[21:53] does that how does that factor into anything or does it not?

[21:59] Let's see. >> That's in the official plan. So, that's

[22:03] in the official plan. And generally speaking, any like new lot creation, any

[22:07] new development on a property, and when we speak of new development, it would be

[22:11] a vacant lot um with specific work. Having said that, if somebody was moving

[22:16] forward and they were wanting to build a boat house, wanting to do substantial

[22:20] work within the water, then you'd have to look at it. This particular property,

[22:25] they're looking at building one for one. they're they're tearing down and

[22:28] building on the similar footprint. They're not working within the the

[22:33] shoreline area um per se. So, it wouldn't so much apply in this

[22:40] circumstance. >> Okay. Okay. I'm just, you know,

[22:45] concerned about what was happening on the lake obviously, um, with it getting

[22:52] built up and also curious, which I I guess I'd have to reach out to someone

[22:57] to find out if my lot aside is considered vacant because the lodge has

[23:04] been torn down for, I don't know, 35 years or something, not 50, but it has

[23:10] been down for a while, but there's still footings and everything up

[23:14] um like you can see where it was. So I'm just curious what that

[23:20] » what that's going to look like too. >> So go ahead,

[23:22] » Mayor H. So in that particular instance, it if there's not a structure on the

[23:27] property, then EMPAC has probably been out. It's probably on your tax bill

[23:32] would show as vacant land. And um generally you lose your status of a

[23:38] structure after a year's time once it's been demolished. So then you'll be

[23:42] making application as though the land's vacant with the building department when

[23:46] you decide to proceed. >> Okay. So it's vacant land. So then it

[23:51] needs that 30 m set act. >> Right. Unless I have that

[23:56] » provided that like I said we can have a look at your specific property. We're

[24:00] we're dealing with a different zoning but with your particular property we can

[24:03] look at it. If it happens to have if it's undersized then there are 25%

[24:08] reductions um allowance and we can go over that with a pre-conultation.

[24:14] » Thank you. >> Yeah. Okay.

[24:16] » I think the I think the other thing to keep in mind is when

[24:20] » these new developments happen, we're not actually creating new lots. The lots are

[24:24] there for many many years and it's it's been a registered lot for many years.

[24:27] But I think council looks at when we do get people coming in and want to upgrade

[24:32] and take an old building down, it's a real benefit to the township and the

[24:36] lake, I think, because under that when they do that now, we're we're looking at

[24:40] new septics, uh, everything new. There's less leeching into the water from the

[24:45] septic beds, um, all of that. So, there's a lot to take into consideration

[24:49] when the council looks at these proposals. I think one of the big things

[24:54] is is we're not adding square footage really to buildings around the lake, but

[24:58] we're also improving the the land around the lake by

[25:01] » in getting rid of the old septic systems that that uh can be leeching into the

[25:05] lake for for years. So that's how it

[25:11] » I appreciate you mentioning that and I I appreciate the time that you've allowed

[25:16] me and I just want to make one comment that that lake like I think we growing

[25:23] up on it probably took it for granted um how beautiful it was and it was when I

[25:30] moved to Michigan and saw what the lakes were like there that I began to get

[25:38] really concerned about what would happen because all the lakes there unless

[25:44] they're in the middle of nowhere people build right up to the shoreline you know

[25:48] within 30 probably within I don't know 20 meters of the shoreline and there

[25:56] sidewalks and docks it looks like a suburb with a bunch of water in the

[26:01] middle of it and I just am concerned I don't want Clear Lake to turn into that.

[26:07] And I understand nicer homes and it's great and it looks nice, but I like

[26:12] looking around at a lake and seeing some trees and not just everybody's fancy

[26:18] house because >> you know it's a lake.

[26:20] » And I would have to agree with that 100%.

[26:22] » Country, not mansion mansion country. [laughter]

[26:26] So that's that's kind of where I'm coming from because I've seen that what

[26:30] happens when you're not um paying attention.

[26:35] uh you know and and you're not and you're shortsighted. And I'm not saying

[26:39] you are. It sounds I appreciate everything that you're saying, but I'm

[26:43] saying if people are shortsighted, they don't see what's happening. Um and

[26:48] before you know it, their their beautiful lake is is just a city with a

[26:53] bunch of water in the middle of it. >> Yeah. And I agree with you.

[26:56] » So, thank you.

[26:59] » Thank you. >> I appreciate all your time. Thanks so

[27:02] much. Do we have anyone else online wishing to

[27:06] speak to the matter? I don't think so. Okay.

[27:14] Miss Morton, can you advise the public does what correspondence has been

[27:18] received with respect to the application as a for?

[27:22] » I think we don't really need that, do we?

[27:25] » Or you read the >> I have to read it.

[27:27] » You have to read it. >> I do have to read it.

[27:29] » You're on. As 4:30 p.m. today, staff have received

[27:34] the following email from Dominic. Dear Beth, I received notice from amends

[27:38] bylaw 2014 21 for part 30, plan 167. I have some questions about what is being

[27:44] proposed and how it will impact my adjacent property and the well-being of

[27:48] the lake, the habitat surrounding the lake and life on the lake. Could you

[27:52] provide building plans to show location of the proposed structure and deck and

[27:55] any dog plans as well? I'm still digesting that I was never notified when

[27:59] the shore allowance piece was put up for tax sale and I do not want to allow any

[28:03] more crowding of my lot. Of even greater concern is regarding the lake being

[28:08] building at building capacity. So any development that proposes to cut the

[28:13] required setback by more than half from 30 m to 12.8 m is irresponsible in my

[28:19] opinion in my opic thinking. This is also type one fish habitat as shown on

[28:24] your zoning maps which should further restrict shoreline development. Laneway

[28:28] access may also reduce the size of a dwelling. What is their access to that

[28:32] property? As I recall, they have to cross other lots to get to it. Any

[28:36] additional information you can provide is appreciated. Don McConni. On January

[28:40] 9th, Jordan Ross development planning coordinator intern responded to Don

[28:43] Mcconiki's email. Thank you for informing our staff about your concerns

[28:47] with proposed zoning bylaw amendment at 27 Moss Lane, part of lot 30, plan 167.

[28:52] We will include your comments in our report to council that will be presented

[28:55] at the January 21st meeting. Attached to this email is a site sketch submitted

[29:00] with the zoning by amendment application. The site sketch depicts the

[29:03] location of all existing structures in the proposed dwelling with attached deck

[29:06] along with the setbacks. In regard to the dock index on the subject lands, the

[29:10] application is proposing that the existing dwelling and attached direct be

[29:14] will be demolished and replaced with the proposed dwelling with attached deck.

[29:18] There have been no proposed changes to the existing dock. The subject lands are

[29:22] currently accessed through a right ofway known as Moss Lane. I've attached a map

[29:25] of the subject lands which illustrates the location of Moss Lane. Please let us

[29:30] know if you have any questions. We'd be happy to assist you. Thank you. On

[29:34] January 9th, staff received the following email from Dominicki. Good

[29:37] morning, Beth. further the below email and our conversation the other day. I

[29:40] have some additional questions and concerns. I took a look at the

[29:43] interactive map you provided that was very helpful. Thank you. Also, thank you

[29:46] for clarifying that the lake itself is not at capacity, but if you understood

[29:50] you correctly, there are no new lots being added to the lake. I did think

[29:53] that what is being at capacity is could you explain what being at capacity means

[29:58] and how close to the lake is to capacity. I have been researching about

[30:02] lakes that are designated as fish one habitat.

[30:06] fish habitat one because section of Clear Lake where the below lot is is

[30:09] designated as fish habitat one. Would it be possible for you to share the

[30:12] environmental impact assessment that would have been completed before this

[30:16] can be approved? I do plan at the attend the council meeting via Zoom and I would

[30:20] like to formally register my concerns about needing to see an environmental

[30:23] assessment before we vote on this zoning uh resoning application. Thank you. On

[30:29] January 13th, staff received an email from Domicki requesting the township

[30:33] staff report for propos zoning bylaw amendment. On January 14th, do Jordan

[30:37] Ross de development and planning coordinator intern responded to

[30:40] Dominic's email. Thank you for providing us with your additional questions and

[30:44] concerns. I will be including them in the report to council for the zoning

[30:48] battle amendment. Our staff have reviewed your questions and provided

[30:51] response below. Thank you for clarifying that the lake itself is not at capacity.

[30:55] But if I understood you correctly there are no new lots being added to the lake.

[30:59] I did think um that that is what at capacity is. Could you explain what it

[31:04] means and how close lake is at capacity? Staff response. Hutcherson Environmental

[31:09] Services completed a lakeshore capacity assessment for Clear Lake on behalf of

[31:13] the Clear Lake Property Owners Association in 2013 which assessed the

[31:17] capacity of Clear Lake for additional shoreline development based on Lake

[31:21] Shore capacity assessment. Their analysis concluded that Clear Lake is

[31:25] presently over capacity with respect to total phosphorus concentration and the

[31:29] would recommend against further development within 300 meters of the

[31:33] lake's shoreline. The review also concluded that Clear Lake exceeds the

[31:37] one definition of social crowding. At the time that the official plan was

[31:42] approved, the only lakes in the township that were subject to formal traffic

[31:47] monitoring and assessment were Lake Trout Lakes, Bay Lake, and Mdale Lake.

[31:51] Council supportive of lake associations undertaking traffic state assessment and

[31:55] analysis and sharing the results of this work with the township for consideration

[31:59] of future planning policy to ensure that all water bodies are protected. The

[32:03] township's official plan outlines that any new lots to be created have a

[32:07] specification that septic tile fields be located a minimum of 300 meters from any

[32:12] shoreline. The official plan also outlines the policies for shoreline lot

[32:16] creation in section B 2.3.4. It outlines that larger lot requirements

[32:21] will be required for new lots where sensitive fish habitats or other

[32:25] environmental or physical constraints are identified. Note that development

[32:29] for cap capacity would be for the creation of new lots. This does not

[32:34] apply to existing lots of record as they would have been considered within the

[32:38] lake capacity studies as a developed lot i.e. your existing vacant lot or other

[32:44] lots proposing demolition and reconstruction etc at the time of

[32:48] completion of the studies. question. I have been researching about lakes that

[32:53] are designated as fish habitat one because the section of Clear Lake where

[32:56] the below lot is is designated as fish habitat 1. Would it be possible for you

[33:00] to share the environmental impacts assessment that would have been

[33:03] completed before this can be approved? Response. The amendment to the zoning

[33:07] bylaw that was requested by the applicant is regard to a proposed single

[33:11] detached dwelling. There will be no alterations to the existing dock and no

[33:14] work within the fish habitat. The proposed dwelling will be situated in

[33:18] the same location as the existing dwelling located on the lot. The

[33:21] footprint will increase. However, the structure will generally be the same

[33:25] distance from the shoreline. The existing dwelling has a front yard of

[33:28] 13.97 m. The proposed dwelling will have a front yard of 12.8 m. Having the

[33:34] proposed dwelling in the same location as the existing dwelling will ensure no

[33:39] furthered vegetation is disrupted on the lot. Both the existing and proposed

[33:43] dwellings have attached decks that encroach into the front yard. As this

[33:47] zoning bile amendment will not introduce any new uses on the lot and will not

[33:51] impact the current vegetation, staff have not requested an environmental

[33:54] study impact study be completed. Occupying the proposed dwelling will

[33:58] have similar impact on environmental concerns as continuing to occupy the

[34:02] existing dwelling would have. Is a possible question. Is it possible for me

[34:06] to see township's planning report that speaks to this application before the

[34:09] meeting? The agenda for the January 21st meeting will be available to the public

[34:15] on January 19th. Once the agenda is public, I will send you the report to

[34:19] council that was prepared for the zoning bylaw amendment.

[34:23] On January 15th, staff received the following email from Don McCloni. Hi,

[34:27] Jordan. I've been thinking that I will be able to speak at the council meeting,

[34:30] but in case I cannot, in addition to the environmental concerns, the lake turning

[34:34] into an Americanstyle suburb with a lake in the middle, the fish habitat, also

[34:38] like to register my concerns about any erosion the work they could do have on

[34:42] my property, either erosion of the shoreline or of the hill to the west end

[34:46] of my property. The lodge was called North Cliff for a reason. Let's not mess

[34:51] with that piece of history. I don't mean the lodge history. I mean the ice age

[34:54] that deposited that hill there. Thank you for your consideration, Don.

[35:00] » Are there any questions or comments from council to the applicants or township

[35:04] staff? Councelor McFale, do you have any questions?

[35:08] » No. >> Councelor Lmley,

[35:10] » no. I think it's pretty clear. >> Councelor Sar,

[35:12] » no thanks. >> Okay. Uh, those wishing to receive

[35:16] further notice of the decision of the zoning bylaw must make a written request

[35:20] as per previous instruction. Council will consider the proposed bylaw at the

[35:24] February 4th, 2026 meeting of council. Once council makes a decision on the

[35:29] bylaw, please be advised that there is a 20-day appeal period from the date of

[35:33] notice of decision of the bylaw during which time any specified person or body

[35:38] public body may appeal the decision of council to the Ontario Land Tribunal.

[35:43] Having received questions and comments from the public and council, I declare

[35:46] the public meeting to be concluded.

[35:55] be resolved. The council corporation of the township of Perry hereby now adjourn

[35:59] from the public meeting at 7:35 p.m. In order to recommence the regular

[36:06] meeting of council on Wednesday, January 21st, 2026. Councelor McFale, do you uh

[36:12] councelor Sour, do you move? >> I move.

[36:14] » Councelor McFale, do you second or do you

[36:16] » second? Uh, I'll call for the vote. Councelor

[36:20] Romley, >> yay.

[36:21] » Councelor McFale. >> Yay. Councelor Salary.

[36:24] » Yay. >> That was carried.

[36:33] » That is it. You're welcome to >> battle the storm and go home.

[36:37] » Thank you. >> Can I give a comment on on Dawn's

[36:39] property um at all? >> Um,

[36:42] » I would have preferred if you'd have done it during the meeting.

[36:45] » Okay. Sure. >> All right. Yeah. Okay.

[36:47] » I was just going to give you a lay of land where she is. She's

[36:49] » Oh, I know exactly where it is. >> Yeah, I know exactly where it is. Yeah,

[36:54] » that's good. >> Thank you,

[36:55] » guys. Thanks for listening.

[37:03] » Delegation by Councelor Lley. >> Have a good night, guys.

[37:06] » Thank you for coming out.

[37:12] So um as you know I sit on the OP board um our last meeting we were in

[37:19] discussion phase um about budget having a discussion about budget and uh staff

[37:26] uh district the district commander uh Doug Vincer Mr. Vinc Vincer am I saying

[37:31] it right? Um, so [clears throat] just a little backdrop that we've uh they have,

[37:37] you know, community engagements, right? And they've uh you know, they they're

[37:41] playing the high school, right? And uh Mr. Vincer had made a comment that, you

[37:46] know, maybe our board uh because each member represents a kind of a region,

[37:50] right? Has as a as a seat on it. I'm looking after Carney, Perry, McMur,

[37:57] Mr. Robinson, I think it's Armor, Ryerson, and Burks Falls. Anyways, he

[38:01] asked if we could go back to our respected counselors uh councils and ask

[38:05] um so the district commander also requested that the board member consider

[38:09] allocating funds for the OP detachment staff appreciation and recognition initi

[38:14] initiatives uh which we may include uh like he the one idea that was floated

[38:19] was like um just like like a dinner and like an awards or certificate of awards

[38:26] for appreciation of our our constiples and offic officers up here in Omegent.

[38:31] Another idea that was floated across was um the buying of uh some hockey jerseys

[38:36] because uh like I said when I was going back to that game against uh oh my went

[38:40] they do it it's an annual thing right they do it and uh this year well this

[38:45] past year I think they've had to borrow u jerseys off the Huntsville detachment

[38:50] right so I think it's just you know they're just looking at being uh I don't

[38:56] think it's wrong for what they're trying to say is let's appreciate uh the

[38:59] policing that we get in our area and back them up, right, through some type

[39:02] of initiative. >> So, the other members like myself have

[39:05] gone back to their respective councils and floated this idea and that's why I'm

[39:10] kind of spilling it out for you guys. >> Okay. Any idea of dollar value you're

[39:14] looking at for jerseys or >> I think we based it on about $100 to

[39:19] 150. I think that was just like like no one's gotten costing just quite yet, but

[39:23] that was just like I think it was a rough basing. you know,

[39:28] » they were looking to put $2,000 into the budget.

[39:30] » Yes. >> They would use that for either

[39:32] » dinner >> the uh the dinner or awards or for

[39:36] jerseys. There's something that could give recognition back to um the Omegen

[39:42] um OP officers. So, they they don't have any appreciation built in. That's

[39:46] something that's up to the board to build in. And so, um, it the the board

[39:51] is looking for, um, just, uh, input because they're look they're looking at

[39:56] putting in that $2,000 and just saying, you know, is does this council look that

[40:00] is a favorable favorable thing for to to do such.

[40:04] » How many uh members are there? >> Oh, you'd be surprised. There's 32 32

[40:11] members of Birk Falls uh station. No, I mean I mean how many municipalities and

[40:17] towns? >> Oh, okay. So, there's there's uh

[40:20] » is it just this core? >> No, no, there's Dan Robinson. Yeah, all

[40:25] 12. Yeah, >> 12.

[40:26] » Yep. >> We said there was an all 12 bit board.

[40:28] » Kevin and then two community members are on

[40:32] it. >> It's actually quite interesting. You

[40:34] know, these are newly formed boards, right? So, it's growing, but I mean, not

[40:38] growing pains, we're members, right? We got our membership. So, it's growing

[40:41] pains, but it's fun. and and not just fun but it's uh you know I think we have

[40:45] to remember the service that these people are doing right and you know as a

[40:48] mag I think we should be showing that we we back up our troops

[40:54] » any comment >> I like the idea of the jerseys cuz

[40:57] they're they're going to be around for a while

[41:00] » and what we have coming down the pipe might fit in right quite well with it

[41:03] right was that community game down at our down at our new rank you know so it

[41:08] kind of kind of fits in good timing Officer

[41:12] McFale, any questions or >> I I like the idea of a dinner uh because

[41:17] then we have a chance to meet the officers and um you know have a

[41:22] networking portion possibly. Um are they are they

[41:27] spending time at the high school? >> They they are Maran. They they do they

[41:33] their presence is is is is very felt up there.

[41:36] » Yeah. They generally stop in several times in a week, you know.

[41:40] » I because I remember um the detachment commander Vincer from

[41:47] high school when uh my kids went to high school. So

[41:52] um anyway, I think it's really great. Anything we can do to support our um our

[41:58] police is is good. >> I can add. So the the dinner that would

[42:03] be something that would be a dinner that would be hosted by the board. So you'd

[42:06] have the board um you would have um the uh members of the OP detachment and uh

[42:13] their spouses that would be there for an award. So it wouldn't be something that

[42:17] would be open to uh councils and the public to attend. It would be an

[42:22] invitation only and hosted by the board if they did something like that. And

[42:27] then if it was the jerseys, um the the there was a lot of support on the jersey

[42:32] even from the detachment and the the commander, they do a lot of fundraising.

[42:37] They have these events and it brings networking with children. It brings with

[42:41] other families. A lot of people come out from the community to come to the

[42:45] events. They'll work events with EMS, um uh fire, like they they've they do a lot

[42:52] of things. They will do fundraising for food bank and do different things. So,

[42:55] they want to have some recognition with the jerseys is what they have talked

[42:58] about. Or if it was a dinner, like I said, it would be um a specified dinner

[43:03] that would be hosted with the the board and with members of the detachment.

[43:08] » I think can I speak again? >> Yes. Yes. Mayor Hoffet or I I just think

[43:14] maybe the jerseys is a way to start and then um because the board and the

[43:20] detachment maybe that will a dinner will come in the future because that is

[43:24] networking within their uh scope. >> That's exactly what I was going to say,

[43:30] Council Phil.

[43:34] » Yeah, like jerseys are could be a multi-purpose thing. It's kind of like

[43:36] council like the wreck, right? When we have our swag, we're kind of noticed,

[43:40] right? And people, you know, take take note of our group, right? So, I think

[43:46] that's what they're looking for. >> Pass anything. Same with the general

[43:49] support. >> No, it's actually the board that passes

[43:52] the budget. It's just the board thought it would be beneficial to bring it back

[43:57] so that the councils could be able to pro put a little bit of input back into

[44:02] it. So, um nothing needs to be brought. And then, um if I could just speak with

[44:08] councelor Lumley. So, um, the correspondents that went last week to

[44:11] you. So, you'll be organizing to work out with the other municipalities to

[44:15] attend their council meetings for discussion.

[44:17] » Yes. I was open to step into a carne one and maybe roll up to McMurray Mont

[44:22] » and in person and just describe exactly what we just described here. Yeah.

[44:27] » It'd be good. It'd be really good if we could, you know, I know they have those

[44:31] two games, but the winter time's a long time and it'd be good to see them if

[44:35] they can, you know, circulate and maybe have a community game, right? Oh, the

[44:40] police versus a shimmy. You know what I'm trying to say?

[44:43] » How long does it take to get the jersey? You know,

[44:46] » that's a good question. That's a good question. I think anywhere between four

[44:50] to six weeks, you know, just depending on sizing, lettering, and what they kind

[44:54] of want their album to be like, right? >> Okay. Well, I think it's positive. It

[45:00] must for sure. >> I don't hear anything negative, so I

[45:04] guess we're all good with it. I know I am. So,

[45:11] uh, any other discussion before we move on?

[45:14] » Happy to be resolved bylaw number 20261 being a

[45:19] bylaw to confirm the proceedings of the council of the corporation of township

[45:22] at period be given first and second reading. Councelor McFale, do you move?

[45:26] » I move. >> Councelor Lumley, do you second?

[45:28] » Second. >> Um, I'll ask for the vote. Uh, councelor

[45:33] Salary, >> yay.

[45:34] » Councelor McFale, >> yay. Councelor Lumbling.

[45:37] » Yay. >> Carried.

[45:40] Any questions or comments? Good. Be resolved. Bylaw number 20261

[45:48] being a bylaw to confirm the proceedings of the council of the corporation of

[45:50] township period. Be given third and final reading and acted on. Councelor

[45:54] Lumley, do you move? >> Councelor Sar, do you second?

[45:57] » I second. >> I'll call for the vote. Uh, councelor

[46:00] Lumley. >> Yay.

[46:01] » Councelor McFale. >> Yay.

[46:03] » Councelor Sar, >> yay. was carried.

[46:14] Uh, be it resolved bylaw number 20262 being a bylaw to authorize the execution

[46:20] of the municipal funding agreement for the fire protection grant FY25-26

[46:27] between the province of Ontario and the corporation township of Perry given

[46:31] first and second reading. Uh, councelor Sar, do you move? Hello.

[46:35] » Councelor McFale, do you second? >> I second.

[46:38] All >> for the vote and we can have a

[46:40] discussion. Councelor Sar, >> yay.

[46:43] » Council McFale, >> yay.

[46:44] » Councelor Lemon, >> yay.

[46:46] » Carried. Any questions or comments? [snorts]

[46:51] » Just it's positive that got that grant. >> Yeah, I think it is a it's a real

[46:57] positive.

[47:17] Yeah. So, actually I I didn't even know we were Did Did Douglas do this on loan,

[47:22] Kim, or >> uh So, we So, they it was open to all

[47:26] fire departments to make application. There was funding there. Um so they just

[47:30] had to make application and then each department based on their application

[47:34] got allocated money. >> Okay. Right.

[47:37] » All right. And and was it uh predetermined what you were applying for

[47:41] or not? >> So it has to be in regards to cancer

[47:44] prevention. >> Okay.

[47:45] » Yes. Yeah. Health and safety. >> Okay. So it was Yeah. Because I just

[47:49] kind of wonder what were the the guidelines for

[47:52] » Yeah. >> Okay. Great. No, I I know they had a bit

[47:55] of a dryer there before or sort of a hand. They do have one that is I think

[48:00] it has two um you can hang two on it um which was homemade and they're they're

[48:06] going to keep that one but then this is this will be an addition um because what

[48:10] happens is if you don't dry it completely hanging out drying then you

[48:16] end up with mold and that type of thing in the gear. So

[48:19] » yeah. So, is this like a drying rack with air going through it or is it like

[48:22] a dryer like I throw? >> No, it's like a drying rack that you

[48:25] hang it and it hangs like >> Oh, the air goes through the irons and

[48:28] everything else. Looks like a person hanging there.

[48:31] » Okay, got it. >> Yeah, because I kind of wonder if it was

[48:33] a actual dryer or if it's a something like they had already that was built

[48:38] before. Good. No, that's a real positive, I think. Any questions,

[48:42] Councelor McFale? >> No questions. I think it's a great

[48:45] thing. Anything we can do to pro to um health and safety for our firefighters,

[48:50] it's great. >> Council,

[48:52] » I think it's wonderful, too. >> Good.

[48:55] » Be resolved with bylaw number 2026 being a bylaw to authorize the execution of

[48:59] municipal funding agreement for the fire protection grant FY25-26

[49:04] between the province of Ontario, the corporation of the township of Perry be

[49:08] given third and final reading and act council. Councelor McFale, do you move?

[49:12] » I move. >> Councelor Salary, do you second?

[49:14] » I second. I'll call for the vote. Uh, councelor McFale,

[49:18] » yay. >> Councelor Salary,

[49:20] » yay. >> Councelor Bley,

[49:21] » yay. That was carried.

[49:35] Uh, bit resolve bylaw number 20 2603 being a bylaw to authorize the execution

[49:40] of a conditional contribution agreement. uh 75202299

[49:46] between Northern Ontario Heritage Fund Corporation

[49:50] um and the Corporation of the Township of Perry be given first and second

[49:54] reading. Councelor McFale, do you move? >> I move.

[49:58] » Councelor Sry, do you second? >> I second.

[50:00] » I'll call for the vote and then we can have a discussion. Uh councelor Sry.

[50:05] » Councelor Lumley, >> I vote yay.

[50:06] » Councelor McFale, >> yay. That was

[50:09] » carried.

[50:12] questions, comments,

[50:24] » questions, >> questions.

[50:26] » No questions here. >> Councelor Mcy any questions?

[50:30] » I don't have any questions. No.

[50:34] » Quickly, look at this again.

[51:02] All right. uh be resolved. Bylaw number 202603

[51:07] being a ballot to authorize the execution of the conditional

[51:10] contribution agreement 2520 2299 between the Northern Ontario Heritage Fund

[51:16] Corporation and the Corporation of Township Apparent be given third and

[51:20] final reading and option to open council. Councelor McFale, do you move?

[51:23] » I move. >> Councelor Lemley, do you second?

[51:25] » I second. >> I'm going to uh call for the vote.

[51:29] Councelor Lemley, >> yay. Councelor McFale.

[51:32] » Yay. >> Councelor Salary.

[51:34] » It. >> That was carried.

[51:40] » Be resolved. The council of corporation township of Perry hereby declares the

[51:43] lands described as part of the original shore road allowance lying in front of

[51:48] lot 24 concession 6 closed by bylaw 399 registered as PE 3269

[51:57] township of Perry designated as part one plan 42R22888

[52:03] be surplus and that to be sold by direct sale to 1592818

[52:09] Ontario Limited for the consideration of 2,988

[52:14] cents plus HST of 37711 and any and all township administrative and legal costs.

[52:21] Councelor Lemley, do you move? >> You move.

[52:23] » Councelor Sary, do you second? >> I second.

[52:29] » Any questions or comments? Councelor McFale.

[52:32] » Uh, no questions. >> Okay. Councelor Lley, any questions?

[52:37] » I do. I just have one for staff. So when this happens, right, the sale of

[52:41] something like that, do the adjacent owners and everybody get notified of

[52:46] that sale of of that allowance? You know what I'm trying to say? Like

[52:51] » so yes. So what happens is when the um survey is being drafted and the draft

[52:57] service is going before the sale's done, it's circulated to the to the

[53:02] neighboring property owners to confirm boundaries. That's what I was

[53:04] » the only individual that can purchase the shore allowance in the scenario

[53:08] would be these individuals because it's in front of their lands at the shoreline

[53:12] but um it's a verification to uh make sure so it is um sent forward to to both

[53:18] parties and for their comment if they they choose to make comment.

[53:22] » Thank you. >> Um councelor McFale, did I ask you if

[53:27] you had any comments? >> Yes, I said no. I'm fine.

[53:30] » Council any comments? Uh call for the vote. Uh councelor

[53:35] McFale. >> Yay.

[53:37] » Councelor Sry. >> Yay.

[53:38] » Councelor Lumley. >> Yay.

[53:40] » Carried.

[53:55] It resolved the bylaw number 2020604 uh bylaw to close and sell part of the

[54:00] original shore road lining in front of lot 24 concession 6 opposed by bylaw 399

[54:06] registered as PE3269 township of Perry designated as part of

[54:13] one plan 42R22888

[54:17] uh to 1592818

[54:22] Ontario limited be given first and second reading.

[54:25] Councelor McFale, do you move? >> I move.

[54:28] » Councelor Sar, do you second? >> I second.

[54:30] » I'll call for the vote. Uh, councelor Lumley.

[54:33] » Yay. >> Councelor McFale.

[54:35] » Yay. >> Councelor Salary.

[54:36] » Yay. >> That was carried.

[54:42] Any questions or comments? Council McFail. Any questions or

[54:47] comments? >> No.

[54:49] » Okay. Uh, be it resolved bylaw number 202604,

[54:53] a bylaw to close and sell part of the original shore road allowance lying in

[54:56] front of lot 24, concession 6, proposed by bylaw 399, registered as PE 3269,

[55:04] Township of Perry, designated part one, plan 42R2888

[55:09] to 1592818 Ontario Limited be given third and final

[55:15] reading and acting open council. Councelor Lley, do you move?

[55:18] » I do move. Councelor McFale, do you second?

[55:20] » I second.

[55:24] » I'll call for the the vote. Councelor McFale,

[55:27] » yay. >> Councelor Lumley,

[55:28] » yay. >> Councelor Sary,

[55:30] » carries.

[55:44] » Uh, be resolved. Bylaw number 202605 being a bylaw to remove the holding

[55:49] overlay provision from bylaw number 201421 is amended as zoning bylaw for

[55:54] the township of Perry with respects to lands legal described as part of lot 22

[55:59] and part of lot 23 concession 4 and the township of Perry designated as part one

[56:04] on plan 42R8116 except for part one on plan 42R 1132

[56:13] be given first and second reading. Uh, councelor Sar, will you move?

[56:18] » I move. >> Councelor Lumley, do you second?

[56:19] » I second. >> Um,

[56:23] call for the vote, then we I'll ask questions. Councelor McFale.

[56:27] » Yay. >> Councelor Sar.

[56:29] » Yeah. >> Councelor Lmley.

[56:30] » Yay. >> That was carried. Any questions or

[56:33] comments? >> Councelor Lley.

[56:39] » Oh, I read it. I I my T4 reports quite quite entailed.

[56:45] » Mhm. >> I guess I you know the only question I

[56:47] had and I seen the new existing footprint that the property owner wanted

[56:52] to put a new house on. The only the only thing I had to say is it's just that

[56:57] that lot looked like it went right back to the railway track. Right. And it's

[57:01] pretty much almost it's very at the back of that lot. If you go downh

[57:07] there's two good right here. Next one down. There's another photo like that.

[57:13] It shows where the transfer station is. Which one am I looking at here?

[57:19] Part of the environmental impact or the deep core study. Sorry.

[57:25] It show. >> Yeah.

[57:29] Appendix A.

[57:35] » There we go. back. Yeah. So, that's where the new

[57:40] house is behind the old one. Except you see where that back black line is?

[57:44] That's railway line behind this house. My only question is I was just wondering

[57:47] like when's it come that the railway needs to be notified of any like

[57:51] » I'm sure they'll have been notified. >> They have to be. Yes. So, um when it

[57:56] comes in the building, there'll be comments from uh railway, there'll be

[58:00] comments from MTO for highway 592. So, all of that is still in place. Will

[58:06] still be a requirement. Okay, >> this is just allowing them to be able to

[58:09] proceed >> development to take the overlay which

[58:13] had to do with the um >> the um contamination and things from

[58:18] each shade of the dump site. >> So that's what that study is for.

[58:22] » Okay, I'm satisfied. >> The applicants have confirmed they meet

[58:24] zoning with everything else. They did do an amendment to their site plan to

[58:29] ensure that they met the zoning, right? And so that's all done. So once they go

[58:32] through the stage then they'll proceed with the building department which will

[58:35] have to get the um depending on the distance

[58:40] » they are from CN will outline whether or not they need to follow up with them for

[58:44] permit and the same and in this one here you they would need to get um approval

[58:49] through from >> MD right because it's finite. Okay,

[58:53] thank you. >> You're welcome.

[58:56] » Uh councelor Sour any questions? >> No questions.

[58:58] » Uh councelor male any questions? No questions.

[59:02] » Okay. Be it resolved that bylaw 20265

[59:06] being a bylaw to remove the holding overlay provision from bylaw number

[59:11] 201421 is amended. The zoning bylaw for the township of Perry with respects to

[59:15] lands described as part of lot 22 and part of lot 23. Concession for Township

[59:21] of Perry designated as part one on plan 42R8

[59:26] 8116 except for part plan 42R 11132 be given final third and final reading to

[59:34] act the council. Councelor Sry, do you move?

[59:36] » I move. >> Councelor McFale, do you second?

[59:38] » I second. >> I'll call for the vote. Councelor Sry.

[59:41] Yay. >> Councelor Lumley. Yay.

[59:43] » Councelor McFale. >> Yay. That

[59:45] » was carried.

[1:00:09] Uh, be it resolved that bylaw number 2026

[1:00:12] 06 being a bylaw to enter into an agreement for the provision of regional

[1:00:16] economic development services be given first and second reading. Councelor

[1:00:20] McFale, do you move? >> I move.

[1:00:22] » Councelor Lumley, do you second? >> I do. Second.

[1:00:24] » I'll call for the vote and then we can have a discussion. Councelor Lumley.

[1:00:27] Yay. >> Councelor McFale.

[1:00:29] » Yay. >> Councelor Sary.

[1:00:30] » Yay. >> Carried.

[1:00:35] Any discussion on what we have? So, I talked to just to start, I talked

[1:00:41] to Kim earlier here today and um when you look at the graph, you can obviously

[1:00:46] see Perry is uh pulling in the larger putting in the larger amount of the

[1:00:50] funds to keep it going for the next two years. One of the things that I

[1:00:54] questions I had is where does it end up when somebody doesn't want to be another

[1:00:59] municipality is not participating but they have in the past and now people

[1:01:04] still want to have services and Kim sent me and I didn't get a chance to look at

[1:01:08] it yet. Kim you want to go over that quickly? Uh so the ACE uh staff report

[1:01:14] going to their meeting um tomorrow night uh is proposing a fee schedule for uh

[1:01:21] services uh that municipalities can purchase on. So for instance, if they

[1:01:25] want to utilize uh ACE for grant writing only, then there would be a fee that

[1:01:30] they would pay to get that service. Um and then they had like different levels

[1:01:35] and that's >> nonparticipating members, right?

[1:01:37] » Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I just wanted to make

[1:01:40] sure that was clarified. Um, any comments, councelor McFale?

[1:01:46] » Uh, no. I just I'm just grateful to uh Perry for wanting to at least stay in it

[1:01:52] until like my biggest concern has always been we have that CENO funding and we we

[1:02:00] all s well we signed on to stay on until the at least until the CENO funding.

[1:02:05] Now, we're saying two more years. Um, who knows what's going to happen because

[1:02:09] I know the numbers are seeming to go down. Um, so we will be faced with some

[1:02:16] decisions to make as in the future. I know we we're going to have a quite a

[1:02:21] discussion at our meeting tomorrow night. Um, but um, economic development

[1:02:27] is something I've always felt it you don't do it just by yourself. Um it's

[1:02:33] um so I just I'm grateful that Perry is wanting to stay in it for the time being

[1:02:40] and we'll um see where it goes and I hope we can stay in for a little while

[1:02:46] longer. >> Yes.

[1:02:50] [clears throat] So it's not right to like you know talk about one's neighbors

[1:02:54] but there's 12 municipalities right and I think we start have to start you know

[1:02:58] talking honestly with each other right you know and and and being pretty

[1:03:02] transparent and forefront with these conversations because it is important

[1:03:05] like Maran said and it's not the first time our group has talked about this but

[1:03:09] it's not the first time that ACE has been form formulated before it was

[1:03:14] something else and before that it was something else it's had a long road with

[1:03:18] many acronyms, but now it's a magnan community economic development, right?

[1:03:23] And [clears throat] I hate to say this, but we as a group kind of said, "Okay,

[1:03:28] let's try this as a group." And as council male has alluded to, there's

[1:03:31] been people that have pulled out or felt different ways, but in the end of it,

[1:03:35] the way I look at it is you're going to pay for economic

[1:03:39] development one way or the other. So, if you're a municipality that doesn't want

[1:03:43] to be involved with this group and you want to grow your municipality, you're

[1:03:47] probably going to have to get someone involved with economic development and

[1:03:50] you're going to pay that person a fee, right? So, what this this a is that

[1:03:57] we're stronger as a as a a shared service with these services going

[1:04:02] forward and and pitching in and and making this this this time stick and

[1:04:07] this time work. I I know it sounds silly and I took me a little bit at the first

[1:04:12] time my first time counselor to be dragged to the table of believer

[1:04:16] believing in the the medicine that we're swallowing right now, but I do I I have

[1:04:20] seen positive action with ACE. They have got traction in this area and they're

[1:04:25] doing good things for this community or and for this region. So

[1:04:31] for the municipalities that have jumped out, all I can say is that yeah, I am

[1:04:34] happy. It's an election year, so the ball's up. It might change, you know,

[1:04:39] the municipalities and have they all wanted to be in it. Well, here we go.

[1:04:42] It's 2026 and maybe new councils and new faces. Maybe they'll feel differently

[1:04:47] and maybe they'll give it a shot. And I am I'm excited for that. That's that's

[1:04:51] that's what I got to say. I really am. We'll see. We'll see where where the

[1:04:55] where the cards hold cuz next year it's a different story. I felt no shame in

[1:04:59] going in with Margaret and going to different municipalities and selling

[1:05:03] ace. You're not selling it. You're you're you're explaining the benefits of

[1:05:07] it, right? And one neighbor benefits like so what what are we trying to say

[1:05:11] here? Let's just [clears throat] be honest. Carney, our neighbor is not in

[1:05:13] at ace right now. Okay. But they're going to have their

[1:05:17] » they get the follow from it. >> That's right. There you go. And they're

[1:05:19] going to have their carne dog side race. But guess what? We're going to benefit

[1:05:22] off that, too. We got restaurants, we got uh other vendors, we got community,

[1:05:27] we got we got [clears throat] community general stores and and grocery

[1:05:32] stores that are going to benefit from that dog race, right? So that's economic

[1:05:35] development. What what goes on one community, it benefits other

[1:05:38] communities, right? So I think we have to start reooking at that and revisiting

[1:05:43] that and really keeping that in our minds going forward.

[1:05:47] » Thank you. Any questions or comments? I think economic development is it's

[1:05:52] crucial to keeping the area growing for sure. I agree with Conley on that.

[1:05:58] » Okay. Thank you everyone. Resolve bylaw number 20 2606 being a bylaw to enter

[1:06:04] into agreement for the provision of regional economic development services

[1:06:08] be given third and final reading and acting open council. Councelor Lumley,

[1:06:12] do you move? >> I do move.

[1:06:13] » Councelor Salary, do you second? >> Second.

[1:06:15] » I'll call for the vote. Uh councelor McFale. Yay.

[1:06:19] » Councelor Lley. >> Yay.

[1:06:20] » Councilor Sari. >> Hey.

[1:06:22] » Carried.

[1:06:26] » Thank you.

[1:06:33] » Uh B resolve. The council of corporation township of Perry hereby approves the

[1:06:37] health and safety report dated January 21st, 2026.

[1:06:41] Councelor McFale, do you move? >> I move.

[1:06:44] » Councelor Lumbly, do you second? >> A second.

[1:06:46] » Any questions or comments? So, it was fairly lengthy this time, Beth.

[1:06:57] » I think you put that together, didn't you, Beth? Yeah.

[1:06:59] » Yes, I did. >> Yeah.

[1:07:02] » Can I make a comment? >> Yes, please.

[1:07:04] » Yeah. I I am just so grateful to our staff for having to deal with all this

[1:07:10] winter. Uh this winter seems to be continuing to give us whatever. We never

[1:07:17] know daytoday what it's going to give us, but I can't even imagine what

[1:07:21] they're dealing with. And I'm so glad we have a safety um that we're concerned

[1:07:25] about their safety out there. Um and uh um you know, you can never keep them

[1:07:32] safe enough, especially when people are getting, you know, what is it on

[1:07:35] highways with accidents and and people are sitting on the highway now because

[1:07:39] there's road closures and that kind of thing. So anyway, that's my comment.

[1:07:46] and the port it spreads out to not just the staff, it's the the residents,

[1:07:50] members of the public that are using the library, the community center coming to

[1:07:54] our facilities. Um, so that's got to be maintained. So, it's one thing that

[1:07:59] we've had some discussions. So, like our park staff now because the snow is

[1:08:02] building up throughout the day, so they're coming in the afternoons and

[1:08:06] doing some of that maintenance again because the morning route just isn't

[1:08:09] just enough now, right? Um they've had some struggles with that ice uh rink

[1:08:14] this year because they just get the ice built and then it goes into a saw and

[1:08:19] then there's there's individuals that are going out onto the ice and then they

[1:08:22] damage the ice and then there's they've got to be able to check and make sure

[1:08:26] it's safe because there could be pockets where there's holes into the ice. So

[1:08:32] it's been a it's been a challenge for them with the ice making. And that's

[1:08:36] that's um one positive. when we were speaking about this new Novar rink build

[1:08:41] is that um with having that refrigeration is that once the the team

[1:08:46] gets the ice built, it'll be there for the season. Whereas unfortunately um

[1:08:52] with the regular outdoor rinks that you do face like open enclosures and and I

[1:08:57] know that's frustrating to the residents, but we're at the mercy of the

[1:09:00] of the weather, right? learning for me. >> So,

[1:09:03] » and it's got to be frustrating for our guys trying to build ice because they no

[1:09:07] sooner get a good layer of ice there and three days later it's got water puddles

[1:09:11] on it again. That's got to be just >> hard hard to put up. You put that work

[1:09:16] into it and suddenly it melts on you again. So,

[1:09:19] » but from what I understand, we're going to have ice for the next four or five

[1:09:22] days. Getting pretty cold at night. So, looks like I don't think it's going to

[1:09:26] melt before the weekend this time. [laughter]

[1:09:29] » No. Any other questions or comments on that?

[1:09:33] We're good. Um,

[1:09:38] I'll ask for the I think I read that already. I'll ask for the vote. Uh,

[1:09:42] councelor Lley. >> Yay.

[1:09:43] » Councelor Sar. >> Councelor Mcale.

[1:09:46] » Yay. >> That was carried.

[1:10:00] Uh be it resolved the council of corporation and township perry have no

[1:10:04] objection to consent application B05025 for Marshall subject to the following

[1:10:09] conditions. A draft reference plan of survey shall be submitted to the

[1:10:14] secretary treasurer for the southeast planning board

[1:10:18] uh to the municipality to review prior to registration. The township of Perry

[1:10:22] requires four paper copies and one PDF copy for its files. Councelor McFale, do

[1:10:28] you move? >> I move.

[1:10:29] » Councelor Salary, do you second? >> I second.

[1:10:32] » Does anyone have any questions or comments on this?

[1:10:38] » By the

[1:10:45] government program.

[1:10:51] So, the only thing I would ask, Beth, is is this going to be zoned the same as

[1:10:56] the pre the property it's benefiting? >> Both properties are have the same

[1:11:00] zoning. >> Oh, do they? Okay. Sorry.

[1:11:03] » Um, no other questions or comments? Call for the vote. Councelor Sry. Yay.

[1:11:09] » Councelor Lley. Yay. Councelor McFale. >> Yay. And carried.

[1:11:30] » [clears throat] >> be resolved. The council township of

[1:11:32] Perry have no objection to consent application B05525

[1:11:36] for Douglas subject to the following conditions. The township requires a cash

[1:11:40] and new parkland payment of 5% based on the assessed value of the newly created

[1:11:44] lot. The township requires four copies of the new survey together with a

[1:11:49] digital PDF copy for our records. The draft reference plan of survey shall be

[1:11:54] submitted to the secretary treasurer of the district planning board and to the

[1:11:58] municipality for review prior to registration.

[1:12:01] If the reference plan or other evidence discloses that either the surveyed

[1:12:06] property or the retained property owned by the applicant contains a deviation

[1:12:10] road maintained by the municipality as the public road, then the applicant

[1:12:14] shall survey and transfer such deviation road to the municipality

[1:12:19] as a condition of severance. The area to be severed and transferred shall

[1:12:23] generally be 66 feet in width and centered upon the center line of the

[1:12:28] present traveled road. In situations where this is impractical, the applicant

[1:12:33] should discuss how this requirement will be fulfilled with the municipality

[1:12:37] before reference plan is finalized. Prior to the finalization of consent,

[1:12:41] the district planning board must advise in writing that the municipality had

[1:12:46] that above conditions has been satisfied. The township requires

[1:12:50] confirmation from the working road supervisor or entrance permits can be

[1:12:54] obtained on the newly created lot. Uh the North Bay Manawa Conservation

[1:13:00] Authority has no concerns or objections with regard to sewage disposal systems

[1:13:04] on the severed parcel. Uh

[1:13:09] Council McFale, do you move? >> I move.

[1:13:12] » Council LY, do you second? >> I do second.

[1:13:16] » Uh anyone have any questions or comments?

[1:13:20] » No question. >> Questions here, Council L.

[1:13:24] Okay, I'll call for the vote. Uh, councelor Cry.

[1:13:28] » Yeah. >> Councelor McFale.

[1:13:30] » Yay. >> Councelor Lick.

[1:13:32] » Yeah. >> That was carried.

[1:13:48] Uh be it resolved the council of the corporation of township of Perryi hereby

[1:13:51] accepts the recommendation by the working road supervisor to retain Tull

[1:13:55] engineering for the bianual bridge inspections for 2026 onward.

[1:14:00] Uh councelor Lmley, do you move? >> I move.

[1:14:03] » Councelor Sary, do you second? >> I second.

[1:14:05] » What does that word mean for onward? >> It's only just for the one season. Are

[1:14:11] we going to carry on? Oh, we keep carrying on with them

[1:14:14] » for engineer record for that >> until working supervisor says different.

[1:14:19] » Yeah. Has a fight with >> so it doesn't have to come.

[1:14:22] » All right. Got it. Thank you, Kim. Uh, councelor Lama, you move.

[1:14:26] » I do. >> And councelor S, you second?

[1:14:28] » Second. >> Any questions or comments?

[1:14:31] » Councelor McFale? >> No.

[1:14:33] » Okay, I'll call for the vote. Uh, >> councelor Lumley.

[1:14:37] » Oh, yay. >> Councelor Sar.

[1:14:39] » Yeah. >> Councelor McFale.

[1:14:40] » Yay. That was carried. Actually, that's um Is that roughly the

[1:14:46] same cost as it was the last time? Because I thought that the price seemed

[1:14:50] pretty reasonable. >> Yeah, it's it's not. It's only I think

[1:14:53] $200 difference or something. >> Yeah, I was going to say it seemed

[1:15:06] resolved. Council Corporation Township of Perry hereby wave the procedures for

[1:15:10] procurement on the fire department administrative vehicle and authorize

[1:15:13] staff to purchase directly from Bickley Ford one new 2025 Ford Broncos Sport at

[1:15:20] a quoted price of $41,140.98

[1:15:25] plus tax and further that the lights and radio supplied and installed by Spectrum

[1:15:30] Communic Communications [clears throat] at a quot price of 12,6527

[1:15:35] plus act. Councelor McFale, do you move? >> I move.

[1:15:38] » Councelor Sal, do you second? >> I second.

[1:15:41] » Questions or comments? Any comments or questions here?

[1:15:46] » Male November, right? >> Council McFale, any questions?

[1:15:51] » No questions. No. >> Yeah. I think this does one thing. It

[1:15:54] speeds up the process, too, because it's already in stock. We're not going to

[1:15:58] wait for 6 months on whether or not uh it's being made or available or it

[1:16:05] doesn't come in and it's orange and we have to take it anyway.

[1:16:08] » Yep. >> And we also looked at the other uh local

[1:16:11] dealers to see what they had on their lots and what would be, you know, what

[1:16:15] we needed. Um and this was the only one really that fit. Um a lot of the other

[1:16:21] vehicles have sunroofs which are no good because you need to put the lights on

[1:16:24] and everything. Mhm. >> Will Chief Douglas probably be putting

[1:16:30] like Perry's album like fire chief? >> Yeah,

[1:16:33] » exactly. >> Yeah, it'll be a numbered year. Yeah,

[1:16:36] » definitely. It'll look like the other trucks when it's done,

[1:16:38] » right? Just to identify. Yeah. >> Yeah.

[1:16:41] » And just out of curiosity, I did ask if there was parking at his place through

[1:16:45] Kim and he verified that there's not a problem for parking on a on this parking

[1:16:51] lot. doesn't have to be parked on the road or anything like that for

[1:16:53] professional liability issues, that kind of thing. It's good. Uh, anyone else

[1:16:58] have any questions? I'll call for the vote. Uh, councelor

[1:17:03] Sari, >> yay.

[1:17:04] » Councelor McFale, >> yay.

[1:17:06] » Councelor Lley, >> yay. Terry

[1:17:20] whereas the council township of Perry receives a quest request from the Omega

[1:17:24] Minor Hockey Association U13 LL for I think I think that's youth

[1:17:30] 13 is that >> under 13

[1:17:32] » under local league. >> Okay. uh for a financial donation of

[1:17:37] $1,000 or any funds would be helpful as per the township of Perry donation

[1:17:41] policy to support the hockey team's international silver stick tournament.

[1:17:46] Uh be it resolved the council township of Perry support a financial donation to

[1:17:50] the Elme softball associate in the amount of and it's empty

[1:17:55] that off. It's we Jeff and Amy have something in here so it probably got

[1:17:59] confused. It needs to say my minor hockey the softball one is following

[1:18:04] this. Just >> right. What is that? [clears throat]

[1:18:07] » It's just one word, but it appears all under

[1:18:13] » you >> once in a while. My eyes are sharper now

[1:18:17] that I have. Take them all.

[1:18:20] » Okay. So, it says be resolved to council township of Perry support a financial

[1:18:25] donation to the Elmein hockey association under 13 in the amount of

[1:18:32] councelor LM. You do move. I do move. >> Councelor McFale, do you second?

[1:18:36] » I second. >> Discussion. We haven't got an amount yet

[1:18:39] for this year's budget, do we, Kim? >> Not yet.

[1:18:43] » Normally, we have a donation amount of $2,000.

[1:18:46] » Yes. >> And I believe you've already allocated

[1:18:49] funds. >> We gave 500 to

[1:18:53] » special >> Special Olympics.

[1:18:55] » Yes. Think we might want to double that donation.

[1:19:00] Anyways, just my opinion. It's always been that two, right? Two free.

[1:19:04] » Well, I've noticed it's coming more and more all the time. People want

[1:19:09] » Yeah. donations, right? Oh, >> the police fund that we just talked

[1:19:13] about doesn't come out of that, would it, Kim?

[1:19:15] » No. No, >> that's that's Yeah.

[1:19:19] » Okay. Because [clears throat] I know we always do. There's the others that

[1:19:24] constantly come in too. a staffer that I'm just curious because

[1:19:28] I knew other municipalities had received the same letter in lie of have they have

[1:19:33] they reached out and asked any others what they their donation have they

[1:19:37] donated >> um we directed not to because every

[1:19:39] municipality is different like our policy um we go we address whether or

[1:19:44] not this meets the municipalities policy >> criteria um

[1:19:48] » criteria so we don't really gauge it because some of the other municipalities

[1:19:51] might not have a donation policy

[1:19:58] So just out of curiosity, this they hold this where Sunundidge or is this where

[1:20:04] they >> It was it was held I think in Niagara

[1:20:06] Falls area I think is what >> but the teams are from local teams from

[1:20:10] like Sunidge. >> It's only one team. This will only

[1:20:12] benefit 13 children. It's one team. It's not the actual

[1:20:18] » hockey association. It's only one team that the money would go to. It's not

[1:20:22] going to go to the association itself. It's only going to go to the children

[1:20:26] that are going through the silver stick tournament.

[1:20:29] » Okay. Got it.

[1:20:34] » Amount. Somebody throw out an amount. >> What do you think, CL?

[1:20:41] » What are they asking for? >> Thousand.

[1:20:44] » That's 13 kids. >> And it doesn't I think in the report it

[1:20:48] does outline it doesn't meet the donation policy. So, it's at council's

[1:20:51] discretion today.

[1:20:57] » I throw a number out there at $200. >> Yeah,

[1:21:03] » I can go with that. >> Yeah, I'd be supportive of that.

[1:21:08] » So, to start to start. Sure. Okay.

[1:21:14] Um, I'll call for the vote at $200. How's

[1:21:18] that?

[1:21:22] Uh, councelor McFale. >> Yay.

[1:21:25] » Councelor Lley. >> Okay.

[1:21:26] » Councelor Sary. >> Yes.

[1:21:28] » Carried.

[1:21:34] » Uh, can we maybe have a chat? Sorry, officer. Can we maybe just think about

[1:21:38] that a budget time though? Like index that

[1:21:41] » when we discuss? Yeah, when we >> discuss. Do you have one? Okay.

[1:21:44] » Just so I don't forget about it, right? >> How many years has it been the same

[1:21:47] amount? Kim, can do you know >> 66

[1:21:53] or something? >> Uh whereas uh council the township of

[1:21:57] Perry receives a request from the Almeguin Minor softball association

[1:22:02] uh for a financial donation as well as an inkind donation as per the township

[1:22:07] of Perry donation policy to support the softball team's 2026 season. Be a

[1:22:12] resolved the council of the township of Perry support a financial donation to

[1:22:17] the Omegen Minor Softball Association in the amount of $250,

[1:22:22] $100 towards insurance and 150 towards a year-end event. And further that council

[1:22:28] approves the use of the Novar baseball field, chalk machine, and sports

[1:22:33] equipment for the league to use for the season. And further that council

[1:22:36] approves the use of either the Novar community center or the Msterdale

[1:22:41] Community Center for the year-end event. Councelor Salary, do you move?

[1:22:44] » I move. >> Councelor Lley, do you second?

[1:22:46] » Second. >> Um,

[1:22:50] go ahead. >> Just a quick one that this is um this

[1:22:54] will be I think it's the fifth year in in going now. So, this Omega Minor

[1:22:58] softball was done by the municipality and it still has six members in it. six

[1:23:04] municipality members in it that have now taken it out of the municipal hands and

[1:23:09] made it a nonprofit organization. Right? So that's why the donation request is

[1:23:13] coming back like this. Right? So before like we'd have we this association now

[1:23:18] has to do its own administration. It needs to collect the monies. It needs to

[1:23:22] do its own registration. It's not falling on staff's shoulders anymore.

[1:23:26] It's falling on outside. Right. >> So this is uh Mr. Marshall, who's um a

[1:23:32] board member of the minor uh softball association, getting a jump start on

[1:23:38] this season because, you know, it's going to come fast.

[1:23:41] » Comes fast, >> right?

[1:23:43] » Kudos to him. >> The the one thing that they had also

[1:23:49] requested was the use of the um shed for the summer. One of the problems is the

[1:23:54] shed, the location of it is actually in the Fston area that we don't have access

[1:23:59] to this year. So that is um one of the

[1:24:05] » we do have the community garden shed that we could potentially use um as long

[1:24:12] as it's put back in >> not just throwing in. Yes, I understand.

[1:24:18] And I think again that maybe with some challenges that's going to add with the

[1:24:21] parking if this construction is still going on during the baseball season. Um,

[1:24:26] parents are going to have to be notified by coaches and board members that the

[1:24:30] parking is going to be up in the >> end of the That's right.

[1:24:32] » Yeah. >> Y

[1:24:35] is there any shelving in that unit uh for storage?

[1:24:38] » Not that one. Not the u not the uh >> But it wouldn't take much to get some

[1:24:43] shelving in there to put their stuff on, right?

[1:24:46] » Yeah. Usually it's just a couple big bags, right, for bases and stuff.

[1:24:50] » I don't know. You have to ask Kim. She knows. She knows what's on the floor.

[1:24:53] Yeah, [laughter] I've seen I've seen the pictures.

[1:24:56] » Yes. >> Wasn't me.

[1:25:00] » More of a hot chocolate kind of guy. >> Uh, any other questions?

[1:25:06] I'll call for the vote.

[1:25:10] » Councelor Ling, >> I'm in favor.

[1:25:12] » Council McFale? >> Yay. Councelor

[1:25:14] » Sar. Yes. Carried.

[1:25:27] Whereas the use of aerial spray and glyop phosphate for forestry uh poses

[1:25:34] significant biodiversity loss, harmful health effects and wildlife, loss of use

[1:25:40] to land for recreational tourism and hunting, gathering purposes, water

[1:25:44] contamination, and concern about the effects on human health. And whereas

[1:25:49] municipalities have limitability to address the issue of the aerial spray of

[1:25:54] glyos glyophosphate particularly on crown land and require provincial

[1:26:00] leadership and regulation. And whereas the province of Ontario has a

[1:26:04] responsibility to protect the environment and public health and must

[1:26:08] take action to reduce the harm caused by the aerial spray. Now therefore, be it

[1:26:13] resolved the council of the corporation of township of Perry hereby urges the

[1:26:16] federal and provincial governments to take immediate action to end the aerial

[1:26:20] spraying. Uh, councelor Sar, do you move?

[1:26:24] » I move. >> Councelor McFale, do you second?

[1:26:26] » I second. >> Uh, questions or comments?

[1:26:30] Anyone? >> So, what's the actual purpose of the of

[1:26:32] the spraying of that for forestry purposes? Like what what purposes are

[1:26:35] they talking about? I wonder. >> Don't they use it along the side of the

[1:26:39] roads too when they're spraying kill the weeds and stuff?

[1:26:43] » Well, I know I'm going to sound silly, but is that the same people that are uh

[1:26:47] spraying? Sometimes they spray they'll come to your residence and they'll offer

[1:26:51] a spray service to kill uh No, that's totally different. Okay. So, that's not

[1:26:57] harmful at all. Right. >> Well, tell you.

[1:26:59] » Well, they but yeah, they tell you close all your windows, right?

[1:27:05] I I I'm not too sure if they do it for uh certain like caterpillars, that kind

[1:27:09] of thing sometimes that are in the bush sometimes. I know

[1:27:12] » this is something different. I think it's completely for vegetation. Yeah,

[1:27:16] vegetation. >> Kills vegetation.

[1:27:17] » Yes. >> Lower growth vegetation.

[1:27:23] » Yeah. It's got to be pretty wicked stuff, right?

[1:27:26] » I would say. So if they don't spray it, then what

[1:27:31] happen? They have to go in manually remove this stuff.

[1:27:34] » I have no idea. I don't know enough about it.

[1:27:37] » No,

[1:27:41] » I know. Um, and I I would assume like they're not they don't spray like

[1:27:47] Well, it says particularly on crowned land. And I can't imagine they go over

[1:27:51] and fly over and spray a lot of crown land. Do they?

[1:27:55] » I don't know. I've never >> Yeah, I know up north they were talking

[1:27:58] about spraying to kill certain tree species so they could have more logs.

[1:28:03] » But that's not what this is about. >> No, I think this is mainly undergrowth

[1:28:07] in certain areas that they're trying to control. I don't know. Maybe along power

[1:28:11] lines, major power lines, that kind of thing. I don't know. Towers.

[1:28:15] » Any idea, Ken? Any idea? So this would it be helpful

[1:28:21] that this young lady uh Ash Ashley Awan would she would would she would she be

[1:28:27] considered to have like a you know to come or even speak on it you know

[1:28:32] » or is even necessary. >> So Ashley what she has likely done in

[1:28:36] all likelihood is there's a lot of municipalities are up against it because

[1:28:41] it is affecting their water quality health and things like that. So they're

[1:28:44] urging it spreading out and so she's linked on to it and when she selects it

[1:28:48] automatically plots up that email to circulate to your municipal.

[1:28:52] » Oh, I see. >> So u whether or not she would have any

[1:28:55] more information than reading it on u the website that's um the

[1:29:01] » the group that has been um that she had had linked in

[1:29:06] » would it be M&RF that controls this? >> I believe so. Could we reach out to them

[1:29:11] for more information on >> Yeah. See if they give us a little more

[1:29:15] information on it. >> We can.

[1:29:17] » Yeah. >> I think that's the easiest.

[1:29:19] » Yeah. I think if we did that, then we'd have a better

[1:29:22] » understanding of what's actually happening there.

[1:29:24] » I agree. >> What areas are

[1:29:26] » it's roadside or

[1:29:31] » also does it under not a for fire issue? We don't know.

[1:29:38] Council >> McFale.

[1:29:39] » Um I just wanted to know if we could find out what uh municipalities there.

[1:29:45] She's saying there's a lot of municipalities that have um express

[1:29:49] their concern about this. I would I'd like a little bit more information.

[1:29:54] » Yeah. >> So

[1:30:00] like >> Yeah. I know when you travel through a

[1:30:04] lot of their national parks down south and I mean they're they're more

[1:30:08] controlled they're smaller areas than what we have but they do control burns

[1:30:12] every year on >> really.

[1:30:13] » Yeah. And I was talking to uh three fellas down there. They the those three

[1:30:19] guys burn about a thousand acres a day. Three of them.

[1:30:22] » Holy. >> And they use nothing but drones.

[1:30:25] » And it says all they do is drop little fire pockets down. And he's and they say

[1:30:29] they watch the weather, they watch the winds, and if it gets too much, they

[1:30:33] drop a little fire in front of the fire and it puts that big fire out.

[1:30:36] » Wow. >> It's pretty amazing when you see how

[1:30:38] they're doing that. Like I just Nobody's on the ground. It's all aerial drones

[1:30:42] flying over watching it and drones dropping these little fire pucks down.

[1:30:47] So it's but I don't think you'd want to try that

[1:30:50] up here because it's never >> Yeah. Right.

[1:30:55] » Just amazing how some of these people control the undergrowth. Right.

[1:31:02] » Just in regards like so uh on government Canada website. So products containing

[1:31:08] gla phosate are used to control weeds including invasive weeds and toxic

[1:31:13] plants such as poison ivy. But it would probably be um like the roadside

[1:31:18] management as well. Um when you see like the uh

[1:31:23] » I don't know what that >> the weed is fragmate.

[1:31:27] » Yeah, the fragmitees and and other things like that.

[1:31:33] » Okay, thanks Kim. We can see if we can get a little more

[1:31:37] information on it too if they how much they use in the area or if they really

[1:31:40] even use it in our area already. How much spraying goes on here?

[1:31:46] » There was a notification, I believe last year, that they were going to spray and

[1:31:50] then they halted it because I think a lot of the municipalities had

[1:31:55] » concerns with it. >> Yeah. Okay.

[1:31:59] Uh, be it resolved that the council of the corporation township of Perry hereby

[1:32:02] support the submission of an application to the Northern Ontario Heritage Fund

[1:32:07] Corporation for the funding of a recreational and culture program

[1:32:11] coordinator interm position and further support the implementation of the

[1:32:15] position for 2026 subject to successful funding approval. Councelor McFale, do

[1:32:20] you move? >> I move.

[1:32:22] » Councelor Lumley, do you second? >> I second.

[1:32:24] » Questions or comments? >> No questions. Oh, I think it's a great

[1:32:29] thing. >> Council McFale, any questions?

[1:32:32] » I don't have any questions. I I just think this is a good um move forward as

[1:32:38] far as when you're talking recreation. This is uh recreation and culture. Uh

[1:32:43] when we're I think there's something in there about library. Um

[1:32:48] » yes, >> I just think it would be I think it's

[1:32:52] time to um you know, especially when the staff I we don't want to um burden our

[1:32:58] staff anymore than they are already. Uh they have enough to do without having to

[1:33:04] look after our um you know, some of our programming and and that kind of thing.

[1:33:12] Um, I just think it would be a good move forward and it's a to me it's a a a good

[1:33:18] way to get into doing this to see how it would work if we, you know, you do a

[1:33:23] year you you get to know especially when uh, you know, in the hiring process um,

[1:33:29] make sure that you're looking for the right person and uh, you never know

[1:33:33] where it will go. I I just think it our cring.

[1:33:37] We've got more people moving in. We've got, you know, young families. We want

[1:33:42] to see um our whatever events we have, we want to see them continue to be in

[1:33:48] the best light possible. So, this might be helpful to that.

[1:33:53] » New programming, new infrastructure, right?

[1:33:56] » Yeah. >> Makes sense.

[1:33:57] » Yeah. I like Mark Council [clears throat] Pale said, I think it's

[1:34:00] a great way to to try out a position before you jump in.

[1:34:04] » Right. We're getting a deal with it, >> right? See what what happens. Was it

[1:34:08] successful? I believe me outfitter the carney journey did the same thing uh

[1:34:13] tried to get this grant and they were successful in it. They had over 60

[1:34:17] applicants. >> Yeah.

[1:34:18] » Right. Over 60 applicants applied for that position. Wow.

[1:34:21] » So yeah, I'm very positive. Right. >> I'll call for the vote. Councelor S.

[1:34:28] » Yay. >> Councelor Lley. [clears throat]

[1:34:29] » Yay. Councelor Mc >> Yay.

[1:34:32] » That was carried. Kim, are you writing the application out? You call?

[1:34:36] » Yep. not going to call east.

[1:34:43] Maybe I shouldn't have asked you. [laughter] All right. Be resolved of

[1:34:47] council corporation township of Perry hereby receives correspondence items 8.1

[1:34:51] to 8.43 as outlined in the agenda on Wednesday, January 21st, 2026. Councelor

[1:34:58] Lumley, do you move? >> Do you move?

[1:34:59] » Councelor S, do you second? >> Second.

[1:35:02] uh call for the vote and we can see if anybody has any new business old bids or

[1:35:07] talk about it. Uh councelor Lonley >> I vote yes.

[1:35:11] » Councelor McFale. >> Yay.

[1:35:13] » Councelor Salary. >> Yeah.

[1:35:15] » Carried. Any correspondence items anybody wants

[1:35:19] to discuss? Councelor McFale. I know you talked about uh

[1:35:25] uh uh conservation authorities. >> Yeah. No, I can I just make a comment?

[1:35:30] Yes. >> Regarding the con the uh correspondence,

[1:35:34] it seems to be that we seem to be having an a lot of correspondence and it some

[1:35:39] of it's duplicated in my opinion. Um I'm just wondering in the future whether we

[1:35:45] could um you know just look at them and decide whether we because that

[1:35:50] conservation one has been the last correspondence we've had several of them

[1:35:56] and I'm I'm I'm not sure whether that really applies to our township or not. I

[1:36:01] I think it's you know to go from 36 to 7 seems a little much. But um that's just

[1:36:10] my comment. I don't really have anything else as far as

[1:36:15] um if anyone else wants to add or wants to

[1:36:18] » I think at one time staff vetted them a little bit but I don't know if they've

[1:36:23] had a chance to do that the last couple of council meetings maybe

[1:36:27] » I can try to do that more often. Yeah, >> it just gets the extra time.

[1:36:32] » Yeah, it takes time to do that too and sometimes they you run out of time,

[1:36:36] right? Especially at Christmas and New Year and everything else is coming at

[1:36:39] you. Yeah,

[1:36:41] » it's not it's not meant as a criticism. I just sort of wanted to help the staff

[1:36:45] if you know I know it's a lot. It's just you know whatever

[1:36:49] » everybody getting mad at the >> conservation authorities [laughter] or

[1:36:54] those guys 8.11. Can we just look at that? Uh Kim, it's the twoin one highway

[1:37:00] program. Uh Narin and Hyman were commenting on it and I was just

[1:37:04] wondering I didn't I didn't see that. I'm just wondering what they were

[1:37:08] saying. Are they supporting it or they supporting it?

[1:37:11] » They're supporting the two. >> Yeah,

[1:37:13] » I think they're supporting it saying that it but in the long run they believe

[1:37:17] it should be fourlane. >> So they're not why don't we just do the

[1:37:20] fourlane then? >> I think it's uh too big a project to

[1:37:24] take on all >> Oh, I thought we were all in the big

[1:37:26] infrastructure program around Canada. >> Yeah.

[1:37:28] » Building it all. Oh man, >> I I thought we already did that two in

[1:37:35] one two. >> Yeah, we did a while ago, but it's just

[1:37:38] their support is coming through now. >> I guess I guess they want to keep

[1:37:42] flogging it because it needs, [clears throat] you know, if otherwise

[1:37:44] it may not happen. >> Great. Great.

[1:37:49] » Yeah, I know it's not a it's not the ultimate

[1:37:54] thing to to have in a highway that two in one either. That's

[1:37:58] » because it's always coming back and forth, right?

[1:38:00] » You go to North Bay at Surgeon Falls. >> Yeah.

[1:38:03] » And that's two in one, right? It opens up to a pass and then come back. At the

[1:38:07] same time, you're still driving on a single lane highway.

[1:38:09] » Exactly. >> And a weather like this.

[1:38:12] » And you're passing transports, you know, that it's a scary drive.

[1:38:16] » Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Anybody from up north will really know

[1:38:19] it's a scary drive?

[1:38:23] » Yeah. Just in regards to the correspondence, did council just want to

[1:38:26] see like if there was something that comes forward, for instance, um like

[1:38:31] about the the conservation authority? So, you've seen a correspondence about

[1:38:37] » Yeah. >> whether they're in support or whatever,

[1:38:40] but then you don't really want to see that come forward again because you've

[1:38:43] already seen it. Is that what you're looking for for vetting?

[1:38:47] » Yeah. >> Or what?

[1:38:51] » You know what? It's a it's a tough position to be in to say I'll send this

[1:38:54] to council and I won't send this to council. Right.

[1:38:58] » Right. Because you get all the other municipalities are asking us to provide

[1:39:02] this to your council. >> Yeah.

[1:39:05] » Well, I I I think we just leave it a status quo and be done with it. We can

[1:39:10] go through it and vet it ourselves, right? Want to

[1:39:13] » at least and sometimes you do. >> There's an interesting one. I know we

[1:39:19] talked about the HST for housing. I think that's being changed now. Is it

[1:39:23] Matt? >> I I believe it is.

[1:39:24] » Is it Kim? I heard >> I haven't heard that.

[1:39:26] » I heard reports where it's going to be pulled. If it's under

[1:39:29] » Right. >> Was it I can't Was it under 700,000?

[1:39:34] » Under Yeah. >> I think if it's under 700,000, they're

[1:39:36] pulling the HST off that house. >> Yeah. Try to ramp up the sales again.

[1:39:40] the new sale then it >> that's something Mayor Hoffsteader that

[1:39:46] I would like to see is that if you if we sign what is that we bring a resolution

[1:39:51] up and we >> move it forward what happens with it do

[1:39:57] like we're that one we're actually seeing something happen with it it's

[1:40:02] like there's one here on the curbside blue box collection um you know like

[1:40:08] that's been on many times, right? >> So,

[1:40:13] » and then that that particular one, sorry I cut you off, but that particular one,

[1:40:16] Perry started the circulation on that. And so what happens now is a lot of them

[1:40:21] are sending back and saying they support, right?

[1:40:23] » And so it's whether or not council wants to see who supported it or if they just

[1:40:27] say, you know what, we've already sent a resolution, we don't want to see any

[1:40:31] more correspondence on it. Is if that's what

[1:40:34] » Yeah, >> I say send it through and we'll decide.

[1:40:37] We can go through it later. >> Sure. Yeah.

[1:40:41] » Takes a lot of time for staff to go through a lot, too. So,

[1:40:44] » yeah, >> just as easy for us to look at it, too.

[1:40:48] » Any other questions? New business, old business before we call it a night. Is

[1:40:52] it still snowing out there? Is it not? And uh

[1:40:57] » I guess we should just give a big props up to the roads crew, too, right?

[1:41:00] » Yeah. >> Yeah. They've had a good year. They've

[1:41:04] had a hard year, but they're doing really well.

[1:41:05] » It's not over. >> No, it's not. right in the midst of it,

[1:41:08] you know, >> say that it's

[1:41:11] » big shout out to those guys. >> Not they've been out there when they

[1:41:13] should be and sanded and cleaned up and >> I don't know if it's just me, but I've

[1:41:18] noticed the um the railway crossing seems to be getting a little more

[1:41:23] attention this year than other years. I don't know why, but

[1:41:26] » getting on it. >> Yeah.

[1:41:28] » Well, maybe anticipation for the passenger coming back, right? I have no

[1:41:31] idea because I noticed on deer like they're out there quite a bit scraped

[1:41:35] down and >> I wish the rocket stays that way for a

[1:41:38] few weeks. >> Yeah. But no, they're they're on them

[1:41:40] fairly fast now. So that's good. >> Yeah. And it's

[1:41:44] » Mhm. >> Good.

[1:41:46] » Yeah. >> Go ahead, Councelor McFill.

[1:41:50] » I just I just want to say thank you to the staff for being there tonight with

[1:41:55] and with all our weird weather lately. A lot of driving in and out. It's I'm sure

[1:42:01] it's been treacherous going home or coming or whatever. It's uh so I'm

[1:42:07] grateful to them for being here. Kim hasn't used the bunk bed yet or whatever

[1:42:12] it is they got in the shop.

[1:42:17] » Couldn't say that too loud. I jinx people sometimes. I get right.

[1:42:21] [laughter] >> Meeting adjourned. Good night everyone.

[1:42:27] » Bye everyone. >> Night.

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