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[0:00] All right.
[0:07] We call the meeting to order if we could and the roll call. Councilman Hotsman.
[0:29] Councilman
[0:29] Pro Tem in Brazil. Here. Right. Everybody is here. If you guys will please stand. I've asked Michael Morgan with Bible in the classroom to come bring our invocation.
[0:44] I'm going to be here and if I do something wrong, it's only because I usually speak to kids in the middle school or high school age range and y'all are too mature for me. So let's pray. Lord, we thank you for this day. Thank you. It's beautiful day.
[0:58] give to us. We pray that you will continue it in this time tonight. We've gathered
[1:05] together as friends and neighbors to discuss our city and to see where you're
[1:09] taking us. You've said you have a plan for us and it's a good plan and we might
[1:14] interject some things along the way tonight but we know that your plans will be
[1:17] carried forward and we'll be following that and working with you on that through
[1:21] this town and through our friends and our families and all that are here. We pray
[1:27] that you will bless this time, that you will use it to bring about your full plan for
[1:32] this city.
[1:33] And we thank you for this town, and he's focused on Jesus' name, amen.
[1:37] Amen.
[1:38] May I stand for the pledge?
[1:41] Please let me just simply flag the United States of America and to the Republic for which
[2:19] So we need to approve the agenda orders, anybody see any reason to change anything?
[2:27] I'll make a motion to prove the order agenda I'll second it.
[2:34] So we have mayor proctin and brosio's made a motion the second was councilman
[2:40] Murrell and the other discussion all in favor aye all opposed motion passes thank
[2:49] you. Items of community interest, Saturday, October the 25th,
[2:55] Guarantee Square, 4 p.m. to 7 p.m. on the square. Monday, November
[3:01] the 3rd, the Main Street Board Meeting, here at City Hall at 6 p.m.
[3:06] Tuesday, November the 4th, MDD meeting, here at City Hall at 5.30 p.m.,
[3:12] Wednesday, the 5th of November, Parks Board Meeting, here at City Hall at 12
[3:18] of noon, Thursday, November 6, planning and zoning meeting here at City Hall 630. Tuesday,
[3:29] November 11th, City officers are closed, and then Thursday, the 13th of November will
[3:35] have a council meeting here, and that will be the only one that we have in the month of
[3:39] November here at City Hall 630.
[3:43] At public forum, citizens are allowed three minutes to speak.
[3:49] I think if the issue is only agenda the city council may choose to discuss and consider the item if the item if the issue is not only agenda the council is not permitted by state law to respond to or discuss the item other than to make statements of factual information in response to a citizens inquiry or to recite existing policy in response to the inquiry.
[4:13] The council may request the issue to be placed on a future agenda for action in accordance
[4:17] with state law.
[4:18] This form is not the appropriate place to address complaints against public officials
[4:22] and or staff.
[4:24] Complaints to this nature should be made in writing and filed with the city manager.
[4:31] I've got three potential speakers here.
[4:36] Cindy Ferris, do you want to take your official time?
[4:40] Yes, thank you.
[4:41] I make lots of announcements here just to remind people of things that are going to happen
[4:47] but I'm going to only make one tonight and that's on November 8th, Saturday, November
[4:53] number 8, we have the trash off, the twice a year we do this and
[5:00] And it'll be from eight to two total, but if you would like to volunteer, we would like
[5:07] the volunteers to show up at nine o'clock and work till 12 cleaning up streets, litter, and
[5:12] that sort of thing, at Groff Park. So if you'd like to volunteer, let me or Jason know,
[5:19] otherwise you can find out all the other information of what's going on at which park. So a few months
[5:28] ago I brought an issue before the Council about the pharaoh cats and cats. Tonight I'd like to
[5:34] talk about something else and I know that it's not something that anyone on this panel can talk about
[5:43] advice, do anything about, but I wanted people to be aware of it because last Saturday I got a
[5:51] cat-pushing call or text I should say and the person said long time no see have
[6:04] you changed my response undoubtedly I have changed I have no clue who this is
[6:11] as you're not in my phone directory can you please let me know the person
[6:16] respond. I forgot to tell you my name is Amy. You still remember me. Amy, please tell me your last name
[6:24] because I know so many Amy's. My last name is Wayne. It seems you don't remember me. Perhaps a
[6:31] photo can bring back your memories. I do remember your name, give me a data, open my drawer of memories,
[6:39] and remember how and when and why we met.
[6:43] Well, conversation got it on for a little bit.
[6:45] And at the end, I asked Amy to call me
[6:49] because I'm very good with voices.
[6:52] And if I talk to Mike 30 years from now,
[6:55] I'd recognize Mike's voice.
[6:57] And so I asked her to call.
[7:00] She said she was at a place that was noisy
[7:02] and she would wait until she got home from having her tea
[7:05] and she would call me in the afternoon.
[7:07] well it was already afternoon where I was so I said oh well are you in Hawaii that
[7:15] it's not afternoon yet no I live in California well Amy never called next
[7:23] day I'm help Carolyn is helping me move some of my stuff from storage and I
[7:30] tell her the story she says well you know that sounds like a cat pushing call to
[7:33] me and I said, well, yeah, I didn't think about it at first, but then as it went on and
[7:39] when she never called me back, then, yeah, you're right, it probably was. Well, that afternoon,
[7:45] lo and behold, I get two more. The next one. Cindy, your time is up.
[7:51] Sorry. Anyway, help your families. Don't get catfish.
[7:55] All right. Matthew, Tex Milner, if you'd please take your address, please for us.
[8:09] Yes, 1909, North St. James Road, a lot of point Texas. I'd like to first of all thank
[8:15] the council members and the city manager for doing what you do. I know it has worked as
[8:20] somebody who works in public service to understand how much of a thankless job is in the work
[8:24] I'll do it behind the scenes.
[8:25] However, I do need to bring to the City Council's attention
[8:28] of a problem that is growing on the 1900 block
[8:32] of North St. James Road.
[8:34] For the past five years or so,
[8:35] there's been a sewer smell coming from the sewer,
[8:37] headed to the sewer plant.
[8:39] This has not been a problem since I've lived there since 2009,
[8:43] as you know, Mario introduced us to say,
[8:46] my sewer plant does not stink,
[8:47] which it does not think you've been back there.
[8:49] However, over the past five years,
[8:51] there's been a growing case of the smell coming out of the sewer,
[8:53] right there at the corner before you get to the wastewater treatment plant. This is a problem
[8:58] that most people don't know and there's not a lot of citizens that are affected by that. I understand
[9:03] that however I do know the city workers have to be well aware of this problem. It is a constant
[9:09] smell of the sewer smell at that corner that's been going on for years progressively getting worse
[9:13] and as this town only grows it becomes more and more of a concern. When the bond was passed to
[9:21] and reband the sewer plant, we thought that might
[9:23] fix the problem and that just has not been the case.
[9:25] We used to joke and say you could tell when it was half
[9:28] time of the Cowboys gang because it would get really bad.
[9:32] Now half time seems to be all times of the day.
[9:35] To the point to where it's only going to get worse
[9:37] as more and more people move in.
[9:39] Also, I have to say this is also for utility
[9:41] that I do not have the pleasure of using
[9:43] due to just the nature and the age of our house.
[9:46] So as the growth is coming in, just don't want it
[9:48] to be the consequence of the current citizens
[9:50] since they're here, and this is going to be a problem.
[9:53] As we get bigger, we all know it's going to be a problem
[9:55] with the growth.
[9:56] And we just like to ask the City Council, City Manager,
[9:58] look at what can be done about the-
[10:00] So, aye, it just doesn't cause a nuisance. It doesn't smell fun when you're driving your kids to school or coming home from work. And that'd be the last thing you had right before you get in there. Oh, I love the smell of my street when we were walking down it. So I know everybody who works for the city and has to go in there and it's got to be aware of it. If they're not, maybe they need to take a shower or something. I do not know. So I thank you. I'll free us time. I appreciate it. We'd like to see the council of sick manager look further into the situation. Thank you, tech. Thank you.
[10:32] Monica, David, did you want to speak to
[10:33] going to item number one. Okay.
[10:41] Public Forum will go to consent agenda G1.
[10:51] Any
[10:51] discussion? I entertain a motion.
[10:56] I move you approve the consent agenda as
[11:00] presented.
[11:03] I'll second that. So I have a motion from Councilman Wilson and a
[11:07] second from Councilman Hotsman. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor? I
[11:14] All opposed,
[11:17] thank you.
[11:24] I don't know what's going on, it's only been eight minutes.
[11:27] Welcome to technology.
[11:39] didn't do anything.
[11:42] R2D2, all right.
[11:45] So we will go to regular agenda item number one, H1.
[11:51] Hold the public hearing, discuss and consider
[11:53] a zone change request for a single family residential SF2
[11:57] to General Commercial C2, or for a PD, for all C2 uses minus certain listings and uses
[12:06] listed with a concept plan, parking as shown on concept plan for 1.307 acres, parcel.
[12:14] The applicant is Rhett Stone, living stone investments.
[12:18] The subject property is generally located at the southwest corner of the intersection of
[12:22] North Prairie Street and North Washington Street.
[12:30] And I notice that John Taylor's not here
[12:32] so who's speaking to this?
[12:33] So John is not here tonight. So you, and neither is Michelle, and so all these items are
[12:38] John and Michelle's items so you'll have the pleasure of listening to me the majority of the
[12:42] night. Mayor Council, before you tonight is a zoning change which we'll need to hold a public
[12:51] hearing for regarding the location that's up there on the map as stated north prairie
[13:00] and the intersection north prairie and north Washington street this application comes
[13:05] to you and I from Mr. Redstone he is in the audience to answer any questions you may have
[13:10] after we've gone through the staff report.
[13:17] This has gone before this planning is owning board, planning is owning board has reviewed
[13:23] this and it have made recommendations that no car repair operations are in use, no convenience
[13:30] toward gas pump operations or uses and no bars or saloons serving only out clock beverages.
[13:38] However, restaurants featuring a sit down dining would still be able to serve out clock
[13:42] like beverages and no payday loans or operations or uses.
[13:46] This does comply with our future land use plan,
[13:50] and the surrounding lands around it.
[13:51] To the east of this property,
[13:52] there's a restaurant located in C2,
[13:55] Generals Commercial Zoning Area,
[13:58] west of it, a vacant land that zones SF2,
[14:04] north of it's a single-family residence, SF2,
[14:07] and south of the single-family residence, SF2.
[14:10] And like I said, the recently adopted future land use does designate this location and property as a connected core designation suitable for general commercial as well as neighborhood services.
[14:22] Segal family residential compatible with lakeside village and existing, which does include restaurants in that use.
[14:31] In your packet, you have the site location, you have, I'm sorry, as I flipped through here,
[14:40] my fingers are stuck, sorry. You have concepts of the intended restaurant outer exterior,
[14:49] including elevations.
[14:53] You have the legal lot description, and then if you go for
[15:00] Whether you have one more slide, you have the concept plan which does show that there's room for two buildings. One more slide, please. There's the concept plan. It does show room for two more buildings. It does also show that it meets all of the Washington 377 corridor setbacks and landscaping requirements, meets the C2 setbacks on the residential side.
[15:29] And one of the things that if this is to go through as a PD that would be to disclude
[15:40] those items listed from the P and Z.
[15:44] Like I said, no car repair operations, no convenience
[15:47] toward gas pump operations, no bars or saloons, and no payday loans.
[15:52] The other thing that would be would like to be considered for the PD would be the parking
[15:58] parking. The parking is required more than 48 parking spaces. It will not be required
[16:04] for more than 48 parking spaces. I'm sorry, which is a few short of the parking requirement
[16:11] per ordinance.
[16:14] Normally we would not, our PD zoning requires three acres. We've asked
[16:21] legal advice on the council can waive that. The first part of the ordinance that you would
[16:27] be proving would be waiving the ordinance, the three acre requirement.
[16:37] Happy to stand for any questions?
[16:41] Or never mind, bring it once again.
[16:43] So, Mayor and council, at the Planning and Zoning Commission, the applicant asks for
[16:49] C2 uses straight zoning.
[16:51] And the commission discussed that, and based on neighborhood input, asked if they would
[16:59] be able to eliminate certain uses from those CT uses, the only way that I could describe
[17:09] to do that would be through a plan development ordinance. So it comes to you as a PD ordinance
[17:15] with additional regulations. As Britt mentioned, the zoning ordinance section 14.0251B1 has
[17:28] As a three-acre minimum for commercial uses for a PD, in a motion this evening, if you
[17:35] choose to approve it, I would include a motion to waive the three-acre requirement
[17:42] and approve the requested amendment as presented.
[17:46] and
[17:54] we do need to have a public hearing on this open that for public hearing
[18:05] first and then I don't know if you want to speak during the public
[18:11] hearing time or not so if it's okay I would like to open the public hearing at
[18:18] at 648, for anybody that would like to discuss this.
[18:23] We
[18:34] embarrassing 14068, Elderson Street, speaking as individual tonight, because I am on the
[18:41] planning and zoning commission, but I wanted to ask some questions seeing the diagram here
[18:46] and everything I know that the, if maybe Brent can help me, there was a discussion about sidewalks
[18:54] and everything.
[18:54] I think you should show me on the diagram where the sidewalks would be.
[18:59] Not showed on the concept plan, they are, I can't tell if they're shown on that or not, but
[19:06] they would be required to be brought up to code, whatever our code is on the sidewalks.
[19:13] I was just curious because I didn't see them with the trees and green grass and stuff like that
[19:19] why I was just curious where the sidewalks would be formed on that diagram. That's why I was curious
[19:25] about that.
[19:37] That issue would be part of the plan review at the time that they come in with their
[19:41] building permit and all of their site layout. I said they would be required. I do take that statement
[19:50] but completely back because our ordinance requires sidewalks for any newly plated property. So if this
[19:56] property has not been newly plated, then it would not necessarily-
[20:10] Thank you.
[20:24] Thank you. I'm Monica Davis. I live at 1-0-055 Street, Maderoat, PowerPoint. And tonight, I'm speaking on behalf of John Houghton because he's sick and couldn't make it. So he would like to say thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak regarding the development.
[20:39] and the discussions surrounding possible restrictions on fire arms or gun shot activity within our city.
[20:47] I want to begin by recognizing that we all share the same commitment to keep pilot points safe and thriving.
[20:53] But I believe that any proposal to restrict lawful gun sales or related activities
[20:58] and this understands the problem we're trying to solve.
[21:02] The issue isn't the existence of inanimate objects like guns.
[21:06] It's about human behavior and personal responsibility.
[21:10] If we want to make our city safer, let's focus on the choices people make, not the tools
[21:16] they use.
[21:18] Laws that target lawful businesses or responsible citizens do nothing to stop those who
[21:23] in misuse weapons.
[21:25] What they do is punish honest people, erode trust in government, and move us further away
[21:30] from the values that make pilot points strong.
[21:32] values that like accountability, independence, and respect for individual rights.
[21:39] I'll point has always stood out from other cities. We have a proud tradition of self-resilience
[21:45] and personal accountability where we hold individuals responsible for their actions rather
[21:52] than blaming objects or industries. That's the kind of community that truly deters crime.
[21:57] One more people take responsibility for themselves, their families and their neighbors.
[22:03] Some may argue that restrictions like these are technically constitutional, but simply
[22:08] passing constitutional mustard isn't enough.
[22:11] We should ask a higher question, is it right?
[22:15] Does it reflect the spirit of freedom and responsibility that defines our city?
[22:20] We shouldn't sell for symbolic regulations that make us feel like we've done something when
[22:26] in reality they can change nothing about the causes of violence.
[22:30] Instead of limiting freedoms, let's invest our energy and education, community values,
[22:35] and more responsibility.
[22:37] Those are the things that shape character, prevent violence, and keep our children safe.
[22:42] Pile point can continue to be a model city, not because we regulate more, but because we
[22:48] trust our citizens to act with responsibility and integrity.
[22:52] Thank you for your time and your service to the community.
[22:55] Thank you.
[22:56] Mayor and council, I think where Mr. Houghton's letter comes from is that there was discussion
[23:01] at the Planning and Zoning Commission about limiting gun sales as a part of the PD ordinance
[23:06] and there was not a majority of the commission that was willing to add that limitation.
[23:12] So it was discussed and considered at the commission level and the commission did not include
[23:18] a restriction regarding gun sales for the property.
[23:21] Anybody
[23:24] else like to speak during the public?
[23:28] Mayor Counsel, I did forget to mention that at the applicant's request that as part of the PDs asking to waive the
[23:37] masonry fencing requirements are ordinance requires the masonry fence between residential and commercial properties and they're asking to waive that and
[23:49] have asked for a board on board would fence or a vinyl type fence to be
[23:54] included in the PD.
[24:04] We still have a public hearing open if anybody else would
[24:07] like to speak on behalf of the
[24:11] board of our Sierra Trail.
[24:13] A hundred percent help. Definitely not the biosite if you're going to keep out
[24:22] of
[24:38] these
[24:38] I want to close the public hearing in 6.54?
[24:44] Any discussion?
[24:50] Other than I agree with
[24:51] what Justin said about vinyl sliding. And if you have any questions or Mr. Stone,
[24:57] do you have any comments that you'd like to make to this?
[25:01] Yes, thank you for considering this as a pilot point resident. I would hope you guys would agree with me that we all would like a few more food choices in this town. So that's one of the reasons why we were kind of drawn to this property and came up with a design that we did to address the few things that we are asking for. So the parking that was limited due to the landscape set back requirement out Washington Street. So that's why we're short of view parking spaces there. We tried to address it the best we could.
[25:31] with the limited size of the school property that was there as far as events goes that came
[25:38] from a meeting with the surrounding landowners around us and they kind of voiced a concern
[25:46] about having just a ugly center block wall basically if you will behind the house and so
[25:50] as talking with them and we kind of came up I agree kind of like finally there was a bunch
[26:01] It makes a continuous blocking, both from the way they
[26:06] interlinked.
[26:08] And I think it fits much better in with the neighborhood
[26:11] and look, going with just a center waterfall.
[26:16] So Mr. Stoner, are you going to have outside seating
[26:20] for the restaurant?
[26:22] So we're not going to operate the restaurants.
[26:24] We're going to bring in tenants operating.
[26:26] We're just going to own the property, basically.
[26:28] We do have one tenant that is ready to sign a lease.
[26:31] But the plan is there in between the buildings to have a very, first of all, we're going to
[26:37] leave the huge oak trees.
[26:38] That's one of the reasons why we picked this location is because of the shade and the
[26:42] ability there.
[26:43] I mean, we go to, personally, we go to food trucks being used and outside the use all the
[26:47] time.
[26:48] And it's astounding that the limited amount of shade that they offer in the Texas, and I'm
[26:52] like it's just ridiculous.
[26:54] So keeping the trees there was our number one priority, and then situating the buildings
[26:58] where we have a common area between the buildings to where it could be used by both businesses, if you will.
[27:05] And then that common area would be decorated and have an out-of-wear area to correct.
[27:13] All right. Is there any concern from those residents about that type of thing as far as noise or anything like that?
[27:23] I can say the only thing that was brought up was the look of the center block wall and then a lighting issue.
[27:33] Just, you know, they had questions about it, but obviously there's codes there that we keep that lighting in and that type of thing that we can't do.
[27:40] That was interesting.
[27:41] Pretty easily.
[27:42] Okay. Any other questions?
[27:45] Is there a fence height requirement?
[27:47] I believe six feet.
[27:48] Is that tall enough?
[27:50] or six feet is a requirement for a masonry fence between that and so as council discusses this and if you want to change that
[27:59] High requirement if you want to say it needs to be eight feet or if you want to see four feet
[28:03] I mean that is at your discretion as you look through the pd if you're making those
[28:12] Any advantage going that extra to feet for your neighbors?
[28:18] I believe there is a
[28:19] eight-foot fence there now. It's pretty dilapidated, but it is a wood fence. So I mean it would basically be
[28:26] replacing was there already. So yeah, the higher you go the more noise and the better I would assume light
[28:33] blockage you would have.
[28:39] Yeah, me personally in the oil field we had to put sound barriers up and we go
[28:46] 25 feet. So distance does matter. But anyway, that could even help with the light,
[28:55] a lot of challenge and everything like that.
[28:58] Yeah, I think the issue they have, and I'm kind of talking through that, I would assume the majority
[29:03] of their noise probably comes through their road and their cars and not from, you know,
[29:08] their house there before, there's going to be two large buildings there.
[29:11] So they're going to block most of the noise and block most of the light because all the light
[29:15] to be on the front. So really the only noise that you have back there would just be talking and
[29:23] hopefully a lot of kids playing.
[29:28] Anybody else?
[29:32] Any questions? So I just want to make sure
[29:34] that it's correct. It's gone from SF2 to C2 and we want to have under with the C2 zoning a PD
[29:42] to create the restrictions that we're going to wave the parking from 45 to 38 spaces.
[29:54] Okay, okay, 53 and 48 I agree with Mr. Cook
[30:00] I don't, I have vinyl fence in my house and they get not very nice. So I think maybe we put in the, the PD that it has to be like, I'm fine with not missing, but it has to be a wood fence. Can we do that? Yes, I'm actually drafting a motion that says board on board with the top cap. Once you tell me how high you want it to be. Okay. I, I don't have an idea about the height, but I know the extra two feet on the cost, but it's going to be a lot less than a machinery.
[30:33] So I think correct and I did have a question about another restriction and I don't know
[30:40] for current ordinance applies to this and I'm not saying you would ever do this but just
[30:45] in case something happens and someone else comes and buys the land, what is the distance
[30:52] ordinance for having a vape shop from a school because we're right by high school and an
[30:59] This would be zoned a PD with a C2-based zoning.
[31:05] And safe shots are not allowed in C2-zoning.
[31:11] Good deal.
[31:13] And clarify the three acre requirement for?
[31:18] Our order currently requires three acres to be eligible for a PD zoning.
[31:25] And as planning and zoning at their last meeting,
[31:28] being discussed this zoning application, they wanted to restrict certain uses because
[31:35] C2 does allow uses like gas stations with pumps and some other uses and so they wanted
[31:44] to be able to restrict those and the only tool to be able to do that was the PD and our
[31:50] and our attorney did say that council has the right to waive that three-acre
[31:55] requirement so and that waiving that three-acre requirement is just for
[32:01] this PD it doesn't it's not all of this correct answer getting back to the
[32:06] fence also I think might want to go ahead mandate still post and not would so you
[32:18] You didn't know this, Brenda?
[32:23] Her pen's smoking over here.
[32:27] I'm appreciative of the planning and zoning
[32:29] putting so much thought into this.
[32:31] It's really good.
[32:36] Is it ready?
[32:38] It's ready.
[32:39] All right.
[32:43] Add to somebody.
[32:45] I can hand it to Councilman Hytsman.
[32:48] Yeah, there you go.
[32:49] Well, that sound like a plan.
[32:57] Motion to waive the three acre minimum
[32:59] for the plan development district.
[33:01] to wave the masonry wall, wall requirement and replace it with an eight foot board on board with top cap, wood fence, wood still post and approved the PD zoning as presented.
[33:18] All second.
[33:19] So we have a motion from Councilman Hotsman, a second from Mayor Protein and Broseo, any further discussion?
[33:25] If not, all in favor?
[33:30] Aye.
[33:31] All opposed.
[33:34] Motion carries.
[33:36] If y'all were wondering what I'm looking at,
[33:38] the keep score back here.
[33:41] Thank
[33:45] you, Mr. Stone.
[33:48] We really appreciate that.
[33:50] Yeah, hurry up and do that.
[33:55] All right, we moved to item H2.
[33:58] to discuss an act on an ordinance of the City Council.
[34:03] Pointing Cynthia Burkett, I hope I pronounced that right,
[34:07] is presiding judge of the Pollock Point Municipal Court,
[34:10] approving an agreement with Cynthia Burkett
[34:12] to perform services as presiding judge
[34:14] and authorizing the city manager
[34:16] to execute the agreement, providing an effective date.
[34:20] Mayor council, just like the ordinance says,
[34:23] the item before you today is an ordinance approving
[34:26] this per cat as the judge. Council has taken action about a year ago to make
[34:32] her the associate judge. Dredge Salis has taken a full-time job with another
[34:39] in seat which is the reason why the vacancy by the municipal charter the
[34:45] council appoints the city manager the city secretary the city attorney and the
[34:49] city judge municipal judge. So tonight that's what we're asking for you to
[34:56] points.
[34:57] Okay.
[34:58] Miss Perquette.
[34:59] Judges.
[34:59] Thank you very much.
[35:00] Judge Perquette.
[35:02] Have we had a case in to use her very much? No, sir. I think Judge
[35:08] Salis has been here pretty much every court appointment. So she does come recommended from
[35:15] Judge Salis, and our court clerk does, is familiar with her and our prosecutor, so she
[35:22] does come recommended.
[35:26] Yes, sir. I believe we approve ordinance 608162025. I'll second it.
[35:35] So motion from Councilman Dane is second from Councilman Morrell. Any further discussion?
[35:42] If not all in favor. Aye. All opposed. Motion passes.
[35:53] Moving on to H3.
[35:57] I would read that but I'm
[35:59] let you, Michelle Sanchez.
[36:04] All right.
[36:05] Thank you.
[36:06] I don't know if my presentations are quite on point,
[36:08] like Michelle's, I don't have any dances or pointing
[36:10] or talking with my hand.
[36:12] So this item is to discuss an act on a resolution
[36:18] of the City Council for the City of Pilot Points,
[36:20] granted consent to the annexation of around 65 acres
[36:23] of land in the city's extra territorial jurisdiction
[36:27] addiction into a municipal utility district making findings that are related there to and providing for an effective date.
[36:34] Mayor and council, as you are well aware of, we have been working with Hillwood on a development on 1385 for some time.
[36:44] And they had plans to do this development solely in the county, outside of our ETJ or outside of our municipality.
[36:54] and so they have created a municipal utility district 65 acres of the property
[37:01] that they're working with was located inside of our ETJ so when they
[37:05] created their municipal utility district they did not include that in the
[37:09] creation of that district at this point as they come into the city and as they're
[37:15] looking to move forward with their development project they would like to bring
[37:18] this 65 acres into the municipal utility district to have a whole project
[37:24] in there. This time we ask that Council considers this item and staff does recommend approval.
[37:33] We do have representatives from Hillwood here tonight. They do plan on presenting but
[37:39] not for but on a different agenda item so I'd stand for any questions.
[37:47] I have one. I didn't read it all the way through but the petition I believe it was the
[37:55] McCutcheon property. It looked identical to the one that they did before. It was required
[38:04] though for this move to move into the mud, is that correct?
[38:08] Yes, so the petition prior to this was, if I, if the only petition we've had prior to
[38:14] this was consent to move into the ETJ for the McCutcheon property, this is for consent to
[38:19] move into the 65 acres that was already in our ETJ into the mud.
[38:25] Okay.
[38:30] Any other questions?
[38:36] Is it 65 acres sits on the north side of the property?
[38:39] Yes, sir. That's correct.
[38:44] Yeah, the question.
[38:47] I will entertain a motion.
[38:50] I'm going to approve a resolution 202-509-671.
[38:55] How sick of that?
[38:56] So I have a motion from Councilman Dane, a second from Councilman Wilson.
[39:01] Any further discussion?
[39:02] if not all in favor all opposed and we've got a perfect score okay thank you
[39:14] moving on to age four once again this is Michelle's but I'll read the
[39:24] discussion but yes we'd like to ask the table item number four okay to your
[39:32] November 13th meeting. Can I just say next meeting or is that? I prefer you say
[39:38] November 13th because we've advertised the public hearing. Okay.
[39:45] I'll make a
[39:46] motion to table agenda item number four to the November 13th City Council meeting.
[39:54] Second. So I have a motion from Mayor Protein,
[39:58] I'm Ambrosio, a second from Council.
[40:00] Councilman Cummings. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Thank you. We'll table that until the next meeting. Moving to age five. We're just cooking tonight. All right. This is another Michelle Sanchez, Assistant City Manager.
[40:24] And I blame her for the reason we don't cook normally because I'm really getting us
[40:29] to do these items.
[40:35] Mayor council before you tonight discuss an act on resolution, the City of Council of
[40:39] the City of Public Points, approving a development agreement with Hillwood, enterprises LLC for
[40:44] the development of approximately 617 acres of land generally located off Fouch Road, North
[40:49] of Friendship Road, West of FN 1385 and South of Strip Matter Road, and authorizing the city
[40:55] manager to execute the agreement and related documents and providing an effective date.
[41:01] Mayor, as you are aware, and I mentioned in the last item, we have been working with
[41:07] Hillwood on this development agreement, a lot of blood, sweat, and tears from people
[41:12] in this room, and about 12 other people that are not in this room, from development staff
[41:20] to Michelle Sanchez at Disneyland or Universal Studios enjoying her time there and to our
[41:29] pit and tourist consultants, our financial advisor and our bond council.
[41:36] We have gone through this with a fine tooth comb over and over again, many coms and we believe
[41:45] we've got a wonderful development agreement in front of you tonight for your approval
[41:49] inside this development agreement. Again, I think it's important to mention that Hillwood
[41:55] had started working on this property and started getting ready for the development of
[42:00] this property outside of the city limits and outside of the ETJ. I reached out to Mr.
[42:07] Carlock and said, hey, wouldn't it be great if you were in the city of pilot points? And
[42:12] after a few weeks of thinking on that, he did come back and say, well, we might do that.
[42:16] and here's and so we started working on that that's how this was started and and from there we
[42:22] we gave a lot they gave a lot and we came up with a really good agreement in this agreement
[42:28] we do set forth the approval the consent of the mud we do set forth some terms for the
[42:35] developments standards that are in your agreement that's in front of you that you got tonight before
[42:43] the meeting. I just want to show everybody how thick it is anyway. Yes, sir. And so we would be
[42:53] approving a MUD TERS. The TERS would be a 60% TERS after our last meeting and we went back to
[43:04] Mr. Carlock at your direction and asked if they would consider going to a 50% or lessening that TERS
[43:11] after a certain timeframe and he did consider that and that is in this
[43:15] agreement so after 25 years of the first plat the the terms will go to 50% so
[43:22] that we're able to do the road maintenance and drainage that we are working
[43:25] with as when working with Hillwood the city does get several the amenities and
[43:32] parks as we were able to toward at the union park development.
[43:41] And Mr.
[43:44] Carlock is here
[43:45] with a presentation to introduce you to Hillwood if you don't know Hillwood and just kind
[43:49] of show in general highlights of maybe what this Hillwood is in the project.
[43:57] Members of the City Council, thank you for having us here tonight. I want to say thanks
[44:03] to staff. Seriously, everybody is really putting in the time to make sure these documents
[44:07] are tight, they're complicated. We've taken seriously because these are documents that
[44:15] will last throughout these long-term projects.
[44:19] Again, my name is Brian Carlock. I'm with
[44:21] at Hillwood Communities 3000, Turtle Creek Boulevard, Dallas, Texas, 7529. I wanted to introduce
[44:30] a little bit just real quick, the mayor and some staff and some other people came down and we
[44:36] tour the property union park right down 1385 in a little on. It's a great representation of
[44:42] what we do so if you get nothing out of this little presentation if you want to know who we are
[44:47] kind of how we operate. We think the project we did over the last 15 years down the road of the
[44:52] really good example of the quality that we do. Mayor I know you all I think maybe reached out to some
[44:58] I'm going to fetch all of that.
[44:59] It's a deal.
[45:00] We're going to be doing a little bit of well as well. Yes. Yes. Give us good marks. We appreciate. Yes, sir. You're doing that. A little bit about Hillwood. Hillwood is a real estate company. Our chairman and owner is Ross Peruvian Jr. We started in 1988, privately held. We focus on all sectors of real estate. We have some businesses in that. The big four really are industrial, single family, multi-family, and office.
[45:29] that's really what we focus on and we do that across the country from an
[45:33] industrial standpoint. Many of the Western European markets as well, but you'll
[45:38] find our industrial platform really all over the country.
[45:42] Next slide. I'm not sure who's controlling this slide, but I'll get to it.
[45:48] So within who would I mention, one sector is a master plan community division called
[45:53] Hillwood Communities and that's the division that I represent tonight. And all we
[45:59] EU is focused on relatively large scale master playing communities, generally means 500 to maybe
[46:06] 3,000 acres. So these are large complicated projects that it takes really decades to
[46:12] work through. We were founded in 1988. Our division was because our original project where
[46:20] Hillwood started was the alliance airport that maybe some of you guys know in North
[46:24] work of our division was started to really solve the solution for if these
[46:30] corporate companies are going to relocate to Alliance Texas where are people
[46:34] going to live. Well the answer to that was we formed our division about about a
[46:38] thousand acres and that became really our first major playing community that
[46:42] started in the late 80s. We're based in Dallas, Texas. The Perot families based
[46:47] in Dallas, Texas. We have offices in Houston and Austin as well but we do call
[46:53] no Texas home. There's some numbers on here. We've developed well over 50,000 lots.
[46:59] That probably puts us in the larger, maybe top three or four developers in Texas.
[47:03] We've been doing it for a long time, so we have a way to kind of add to that
[47:07] lockdown. We focus on public and private home builders in Texas, the price
[47:12] points that we focus on. Kind of hear the 300s to the low one millions, so I'll
[47:18] show you a little bit more about product here in a second. That's kind of where we
[47:22] where we focus on. This is a footprint for where our Hillwood
[47:26] communities group has worked. The dark blue states are where we're actively
[47:32] working right now. We have 32 active investments. We've all been the light blue
[47:36] replaces where we have developed but we've been out out of those communities. If
[47:42] you could see in the 32 current communities half are really in Texas and of
[47:52] on Texas and in the major cities of Texas.
[47:56] These are some of the larger projects.
[47:58] These are maybe our, say, thousands,
[48:00] a 3,000 acre projects.
[48:01] These are ones that we have actively developing
[48:04] in Texas right now.
[48:05] So you can see we really hang around
[48:06] the big cities in Texas because that's where jobs are being
[48:09] created and where jobs are being created.
[48:11] That's where new home demand really occurs.
[48:15] You can see up on the top right that 15 of our communities,
[48:19] is 15 of our 20, so our hearing in North Texas.
[48:27] So what we do, maybe better said,
[48:28] what we don't do, we don't build houses.
[48:30] So pick a community you like.
[48:32] If you pick the community up, turn it over
[48:34] and shake it and all the houses drop off
[48:36] and then you turn it right side up.
[48:38] That's what we do as a development company.
[48:40] We do everything but build homes.
[48:42] We sell finished lots to home builders.
[48:46] That's what we do within our shop.
[48:48] We have all disciplines.
[48:50] but we start from the beginning in terms of finding a piece of property and
[48:53] entitling it which is kind of where we are today and we take it all the way
[48:57] through the development cycle planning, getting our builders teed up,
[49:04] financing and developing all the infrastructure or creating HOAs and
[49:09] architectural committees and developing all the way through the project. I don't
[49:13] know that we've ever done one that's taken less than probably nine or ten
[49:16] years all the way up to north of 20 years. So we're used to hanging around these projects for a long
[49:21] period of time. And as a result we I think we've become very attached to the communities not not
[49:25] the master plan communities like Pollock Point that we can become a very corporate citizen I suppose
[49:31] and in the residents that move into our community really become active within the communities.
[49:36] Kind of how we do it you'll see here these are really our guiding principles we call them.
[49:42] This is really our true north, these are the things we focus on when we're looking at a new community,
[49:49] like the one that we're talking with you tonight on.
[49:53] We don't do anything cookie cutter, every deal we do is different because the land is different with every project we take.
[50:00] But as importantly, I think every community, every city, every town is different. Y'all are all created differently. There are things that are important to you as a town. Much, you know them better than we do. But our goal always is to embrace those things that you hold, you know, cherish it within your city and let us just, you know, help bring it forward and make it bigger and really bigger and better. But not necessarily the biggest is what our goal is with just the spirit that these communities
[50:29] to have like pilot point, our goal is just to drift off of that and create something special.
[50:35] One interesting thing we do because being in these big cities in Texas, what we know in
[50:40] these communities with new housing is most people that move in a lot of people that move
[50:44] in our communities are coming from somewhere else. They're coming from a different state,
[50:48] a different city, or the other side of Dallas. But regardless, most people that move in to
[50:53] master plans just don't know anybody, honestly. So we feel like they are the difference between
[50:59] and neighborhood and a community is our people talking together to get to know your neighbor and
[51:03] we spend a lot of time with our social kind of program and giving people every opportunity
[51:10] to not be lonely to get to know their neighbors and to be as involved as they as a community.
[51:18] Amenities, it's a big deal, it really is what most people think about and they think about
[51:22] master plan communities rather than just a subdivision. I would say one of our calling cards is the
[51:28] the uniqueness and the scale of the amenities
[51:32] that we bring to our communities.
[51:35] We spend a lot of time because of the work we have.
[51:37] We spend a lot of time in different markets,
[51:39] different states, West Coast, East Coast.
[51:41] Just seeing where great ideas are popping up
[51:43] and we're able to bring those into our communities
[51:45] so that we're kind of staying up with the trends
[51:48] that society values, so we're bringing
[51:52] in just different community amenities.
[51:54] I'd say the other thing that we're probably known for
[51:55] or is it doing our amenities up front,
[51:58] instead of able to sell the first 300 or 400 homes,
[52:01] and we promise we'll do something in the future,
[52:03] and sometimes in our business,
[52:04] that promise just doesn't happen.
[52:07] So we're proud of the fact that we really
[52:09] lead very good with our amenities.
[52:13] Parks is a big part of what we do,
[52:15] parks and trails, you know,
[52:17] if you can with any resident in the United States,
[52:21] number one, amenity is always parks and open space.
[52:23] Sometimes we try to over-complicated,
[52:24] if I come up with these crazy amenities, fundamentally the most important thing is parks and trails, so we lean into that, and not just building them, but programming them, so they become an educational feature within the community, and we'll talk a little bit about how those property that we're talking to you tonight about has some really neat opportunities for trails and parks.
[52:47] From a housing standpoint, you'll see a broad array of housing here.
[52:53] That is because in our master playing communities, we really insist that we have the opportunity
[52:59] to create housing that appeals to a broad sector of society.
[53:05] There are first-time home buyers, there are second-time home buyers, there are families with
[53:09] three or four kids, there are families with no kids, there are retirees, there are moved
[53:13] down people.
[53:14] So we're really, the opportunity within our communities
[53:17] tries to really represent a cross-slide society.
[53:20] So this housing, I think, does a decent job of this.
[53:23] These are all how homes, you know, within our communities
[53:27] that were, you know, very proud of.
[53:29] If you look at the development agreement before you get tonight,
[53:31] you'll see the opportunity to be able to do a variety
[53:34] of all these housing tax.
[53:39] So very briefly, so the community that we're talking to you
[53:42] tonight about, we've branded it, we've gone through
[53:45] a three-day exercise where we really just lock ourselves in our room for three
[53:49] days to kind of come up with the absolute best plan possible for this
[53:54] community including the brain so the name of the community that we have
[53:58] determined for this project is called lantern and you'll see some of that is
[54:02] because of the unique nature of the site the wooded open space and the flood
[54:07] plane and the project 600 acres in total over a hundred will be open space
[54:12] some parks and trails so we're excited about the opportunity but lantern is
[54:16] this idea. A life kind of in the woods a little bit that we're excited about.
[54:22] So fundamentals of just the property. You can see it outlined in red as a city
[54:27] manager mentioned while ago. If there's no color on the red outline shape that's
[54:34] what it was until the previous council meeting so it was in the county. You
[54:39] acted and we agreed to expand your ETJ now to include the entire red shape. The plan
[54:47] will be to hopefully approve an ETJ development agreement and then take steps forward to
[54:53] and it's all the way into the city of limits.
[54:57] Yeah, I think it's short, short.
[55:01] We are going back. We are 100% within PowerPoint, ISD, and I've visited with the superintendent, and I believe they're excited about this opportunity. You'll see in the site plan, we're already talking to them about the elementary site, you know, within the community. We have already created a municipal municipal municipal utility district, sorry, on the property, previous action item now has the entire property within the same municipal utility district. And we are serviced by the water.
[55:31] so we're served by Mustang or in their CCN.
[55:37] You got to turn your head 90 degrees.
[55:39] I don't love this.
[55:39] I've complained for a while when I get out of voted.
[55:42] But north is to the left.
[55:46] The property line on the top of the screen is 1385.
[55:51] If you see that.
[55:52] So our eastern property line is 1385.
[55:55] Our western property line is Pecaniquiri.
[55:57] That's a pretty good representation of really how
[56:00] wooded it is and we intend to really
[56:02] to keep that completely, the way it is,
[56:05] except for maybe some removals,
[56:07] we'll have to do the trails and some things,
[56:10] you know, not anything to treat.
[56:11] But this is largely a master plan.
[56:13] Residential master plan community
[56:15] driven primarily by housing,
[56:17] you'll see there are some mixed use opportunities
[56:20] that we believe will come again over time,
[56:23] as this area continues to grow and expand
[56:26] and those are represented in that, that the darker are formed.
[56:29] But fundamentally, a broad reverse
[56:32] master plank community driven by multiple home types.
[56:36] You see a school in the middle.
[56:38] We will work with the school district on the appropriate location
[56:41] and timing of that school.
[56:42] But if you look at all of our projects across Texas
[56:45] to find schools at the absolute heart of those communities,
[56:49] we want them to be walkable, backable to the residents.
[56:52] You won't see them off on the edge somewhere.
[56:54] They really insist that they become really part of the heart of the community.
[56:58] And lastly, just a couple of highlights, hopefully you can see that again, it is 617 acres
[57:04] of our 100 acres of open space, including single-family hand, some mixed use.
[57:09] We'll be building extensive miles of regional trails.
[57:12] There's a regional trail showing on your master trail plan going up and down the Alpacán Creek
[57:18] and so Pugurbot obligation in this agreement is to build that on behalf of the region and the city and the project themselves.
[57:24] so we'll build that all the way north to south to the project as well as trails throughout the community itself.
[57:31] There will be an HOA that will maintain the community, maintain standards throughout the whole life of it.
[57:36] The project will have an architectural board that will review to make sure all buildings but residential and otherwise are high quality.
[57:45] And because of the mud district, really, if you don't need a fob in terms of going into
[57:52] an amenity, every park, trail, open space, that we do bill, it will be open to the residents
[57:57] of pilot points.
[57:58] This is a great opportunity to expand the recreation of the city, really built by the developer
[58:04] or through the mud financing.
[58:06] It takes a key fob that is private to the HOA, of course, that would be your school and
[58:10] or any kind of recreation buildings that we build or fees, of course, that give the residents
[58:15] a right to be private.
[58:18] Next.
[58:20] From an economic impact standpoint, once we build out the community, we estimate we'll
[58:24] be a little over a billion dollars of assessed value.
[58:28] I suspect it will move the needle annually for the city once you consider your ethical or
[58:35] And lastly, just the expected timing.
[58:38] Build out, we think this is about a 10-year project.
[58:41] Once we get going, phase 1.
[58:44] Again, we have the property under contract.
[58:46] The goal would be upon successful entitlements
[58:48] would be to close on the property within start
[58:51] rolling into engineering, final planning.
[58:54] But we hope to break around sometime fourth quarter of 26.
[58:57] It will take about a year to develop the first phase of lots.
[59:00] and so you'll start seeing homeowners moving in somewhere, second quarter, probably summer of 2018.
[59:10] That's what I have if any questions, happy to answer the mail or after City Manager goes through some of the details of the development agreement.
[59:18] Thank you.
[59:20] Thank you.
[59:22] I now just run through some of these highlights in the development agreement starting with the public safety site.
[59:28] Through the development agreement the developer has agreed to dedicate two acres of land to the city for a public safety site
[59:36] Which would probably which would model similar to what we've done in the other development agreements. This would be a
[59:42] likely a three bay fire station with access to the PD for the reporting and community stuff
[59:49] And they've also agreed to a capital recovery fee of the fire in EMS, capital recovery
[59:58] fees of $1,500.
[1:00:01] We will be waving all impact fees for this in parks fees. But like Mr. Carlock said, we've got 100 acres guaranteed through this development agreement to be turned into parks. And so we would be, so that would more than enough match what our land education requirement for the parks would be. We will be locking in our city fees at our current rate.
[1:00:28] So any fees that are generated through the city, they'll be locked in in any fees that are generated through third-party vendors
[1:00:38] We'll continue to be through the third parties rate whatever that is
[1:00:43] As Mr. Carlock said this is a Mustang
[1:00:47] Development so Mustang will be responsible for water and sewer the city will be responsible for the streets and drainage
[1:00:56] And then, as I had mentioned, 60% turns, this is a mud, and after 25 years after the
[1:01:05] first plat, this would be, it would be low to 50%.
[1:01:15] You'll have any questions regarding any of the deal points throughout the development agreement.
[1:01:20] The city fees would be locked in for the until billed out is complete.
[1:01:25] Yes, sir.
[1:01:25] Oh, proud.
[1:01:26] Our current rates, yes, sir.
[1:01:28] You said the streets and drainage were the cities responsible as far as maintenance?
[1:01:33] Yes, sir.
[1:01:34] Okay.
[1:01:34] That's not taken care of by the mud.
[1:01:37] No.
[1:01:38] So, they'll be installed by the mud, but then once they're installed, they'll be dedicated to the city.
[1:01:43] Kind of maintenance.
[1:01:46] The, the turrs dollars, is that being used to pay the mud down?
[1:01:51] But what is, what are the turrs dollars being used for?
[1:01:55] Yes, it's, it's, they'll be used to pay for the debt within the, in the mud.
[1:02:01] And so tonight we've got an agenda item that is that we just table to, to be moved over.
[1:02:08] So we don't have the final plan before you deny it, but yes, that is, it's to, used, used
[1:02:15] to pay the, the district's debt and amenities that, like, that the district does otherwise
[1:02:22] It does not cover any
[1:02:29] other questions.
[1:02:30] I'm just going to go say this.
[1:02:32] I think it's going to be an awesome development.
[1:02:35] I really do.
[1:02:36] I think it's going to be great development.
[1:02:38] My issue has nothing to do with the development.
[1:02:42] And actually, I'm a stickler on turf dollars, and it really doesn't even have anything to
[1:02:46] do with the turf's percentage or the turf dollars.
[1:02:50] There's the issue that I have at this time is that, and I know you guys worked your
[1:02:57] butt off for this, and I really appreciate it.
[1:03:00] I think it's great.
[1:03:02] We've had four hours to look at it, and I feel like the TERS finance plan goes hand-to-hand
[1:03:10] with this development agreement.
[1:03:12] And I haven't even really been able to look at it, and I don't think the rest of the
[1:03:20] know to any of this, I just, I can't consciously make a
[1:03:26] vote on it because I haven't looked at it because we
[1:03:29] haven't had it to look at.
[1:03:33] I feel I know this, I know the
[1:03:37] developer wants to get this past and done, and I want to
[1:03:41] get past and done. But on the same time, like the same side of
[1:03:47] things, I feel like we need more time to look at it as a
[1:04:00] I think it should be, I think it should be, they should both be on the same agenda.
[1:04:06] And that way we have, we have our time to look at it.
[1:04:12] So I would rebee remiss to say that the deal points that council has seen are the same
[1:04:18] in this. The major changes that were substantive to this agreement that were not included in the
[1:04:24] deal points that you originally saw were in our favor and they were the ones that changed the
[1:04:30] terrorist amount to 50% after the 25 years after the first plat and they agreed to some drainage
[1:04:36] requirements from the city that would not they would not otherwise have to follow. They already had
[1:04:42] their drainage permit from the county had they stayed in the county they were ready to roll and so
[1:04:48] So fortunately, you know, after we brought that to them, they did agree to some extra drainage
[1:04:53] requirements.
[1:04:54] But this, but the majority of this has been, are the same-
[1:05:00] No points that were brought to council.
[1:05:03] The other changes were necessitated by the fact that we had to table item number four and that was for a notice issue. So those are really the changes, but the deal points have not changed as except as Brits said to our favor.
[1:05:26] Talking points, anybody have any discussion on that?
[1:05:34] I will just add, I did have my pushback on getting something
[1:05:41] in late, we realize that there's been time put in and it hasn't changed that much.
[1:05:53] We would not like to get into a habit of making changes up until the last minute and then
[1:06:01] voting on things, but I would say that if the deal points haven't changed and I don't
[1:06:08] suspect they will change, I don't know that unless
[1:06:15] we set a policy separate from this
[1:06:21] really like things to be inked up in time for us to be able to read it but I
[1:06:28] think they went to a lot of extra effort and I would like to my personal opinion I
[1:06:38] would like to see us vote on this tonight.
[1:06:47] So Mr. Carlock, if we don't approve this tonight we won't be here again until November
[1:06:58] So what would that do to you in your plan seriously?
[1:07:05] I would just say honestly it would be less than perfect.
[1:07:09] It's not going to have us go forward.
[1:07:11] It will cause probably some just some transactional problems with our timeline.
[1:07:16] I'm optimistic we could hopefully work those out.
[1:07:19] It won't be ideal.
[1:07:19] I will tell you again.
[1:07:21] We certainly have been at this for many, many, many, many months.
[1:07:27] So it would not be ideal.
[1:07:28] I know we've agreed and we're going to work through the timing of tabling the terms item number four
[1:07:33] and I think our transactional schedule can handle that.
[1:07:39] It'll be less than perfect as the honest answer, sir.
[1:07:44] So the good news is that the tourist plan before you is final, so you have a lot of time to
[1:07:52] read that before you're next to me.
[1:07:54] Any
[1:07:59] other questions?
[1:08:06] look through about half of this from Brits memo this afternoon, then around out of time.
[1:08:13] So, it actually looks pretty good to me.
[1:08:21] And I think we need developments like this in and around our city.
[1:08:30] Yeah, I will say that I mean this this type of development is what we're we're looking for sure so I do have a question
[1:08:39] Who are some of the developers that seek to purchase these lots from you yeah, it would actually be home builders so our customers are not
[1:08:59] And it's a broad variety, but Highland Homes, Perry Homes,
[1:09:07] we do work with the Pulties and American Legends and D.R. Horton
[1:09:13] in the right situations.
[1:09:18] We probably have a stable of probably 15 builders that are our
[1:09:22] preferred builder group across the state of Texas.
[1:09:26] some like union part but then also the homes that are being built now along 455 going into
[1:09:33] Salina past the totally. Some of those union part is a great example. It's almost done,
[1:09:42] we're developing our last, I remember we've developed all the losses selling the homes and the
[1:09:46] last lots but if you look back at the history, you're looking at our website, Marvist in North
[1:09:52] flight Texas, Pacon Square and North Lake Texas, ramble, tree line. Those are the
[1:09:57] builders and you'll find a lot of overlap.
[1:10:00] But yeah, we do a little bit of a mix of public builders, private builders, but these are people that we've been doing business with for really decades.
[1:10:11] Not the cookie cutters, so. No. No, I believe you mentioned in our visit that even the D.R. importance spec that you use is not their baseline. You have your own development standards for some of these bills.
[1:10:29] So we do, that's true, not just for the award and that's true for every building or in
[1:10:34] our projects.
[1:10:35] They follow a very specific set of design guidelines for us to achieve, for them to achieve on our
[1:10:43] behalf really a quality product that's targeted at a very specific sector of what we're trying
[1:10:50] to target.
[1:10:50] Because if you go to our community, you'll find 8, 10, sometimes 12 home buildings, all
[1:10:56] building a variety of products, but we don't like it. I don't think anybody likes, it's
[1:11:00] just this monotony that you see in suburban sprawl. It's by dealing with multiple
[1:11:06] builders requiring different architecture, really a developer. Things left to themselves,
[1:11:12] building will probably just do the least amount oftentimes. So it really takes a
[1:11:17] master plan developer to really dictate these design standards. So we have designed
[1:11:22] and booklets that the bill would have to follow,
[1:11:25] including the on board or the larger production billers
[1:11:29] that sometimes can get out of line, I would say,
[1:11:32] if you don't have a developer really mandate
[1:11:34] in certain requirements.
[1:11:36] Okay, thank you.
[1:11:44] Any other discussion?
[1:11:48] I would entertain a motion.
[1:11:49] I'd like to make a motion to approve resolution 2025-09-672.
[1:11:57] I'll second a motion.
[1:11:58] So I have a motion from Councilman Wilson, a second from Councilman Morrell, any further
[1:12:04] discussion?
[1:12:05] If not, all in favor?
[1:12:08] Aye.
[1:12:10] I would like to abstain, if that's okay.
[1:12:13] Abstain is fine, that counts as a no vote.
[1:12:16] I understand.
[1:12:17] Okay.
[1:12:20] All opposed?
[1:12:22] In one abstinence.
[1:12:24] Okay?
[1:12:29] Nope.
[1:12:29] and
[1:12:33] there's the score on the screen all right that was h5 we go to h6 we
[1:12:48] need to
[1:12:48] pilot point city council will conduct a public hearing to consider comment and
[1:12:53] act upon an ordinance of the city council approving a final tax increment
[1:12:58] reinvestment zone project and finance plan for reinvestment zone number 16 making
[1:13:07] making certain findings, providing a severability clause and providing for an immediate effective date.
[1:13:18] Mayor, we recommend tabling this to the next meeting as well.
[1:13:24] So we don't need to open a public hearing and leave it open.
[1:13:27] No.
[1:13:28] Okay.
[1:13:32] Again, the motion will be at the table to your November 13th, ma'am.
[1:13:39] Is this six?
[1:13:41] Yes.
[1:13:42] Yes.
[1:13:42] I'll make a motion to table item 6h6 to our November 13th meeting.
[1:13:49] Second the motion.
[1:13:51] All right.
[1:13:51] We have a motion from Mayor Proctin, M. Broseo, second from Councilman Dane.
[1:13:57] Any other discussion?
[1:14:00] If not, all in favor?
[1:14:04] Aye.
[1:14:05] All opposed?
[1:14:07] All right.
[1:14:08] Motion carries.
[1:14:10] A lot of tabling tonight, aren't we?
[1:14:13] Okay. H7. Discuss an act on an ordinance of the City Council. Expanding the city's
[1:14:21] ETJ and establishing ineffective date.
[1:14:25] Mayor Council across the street from the Hillwood project is a magamated project. It's another
[1:14:32] macauchin property. So this petition will look similar to the others as well. But this
[1:14:38] This is to bring the Amalgamator Properties 427 acres.
[1:14:42] Not all of that is currently located in our ETJ.
[1:14:45] And this will bring all of their property into our ETJ.
[1:14:50] We are currently in negotiations with the Amalgamator Properties group to do a development agreement.
[1:14:58] and then we have
[1:15:01] Approved an ETJ, I mean, a turs on the ETJ portion that is in our ETJ, I'm sorry, my acronyms are all getting tongue tied and twisted, I apologize. But we have approved a turs, it's turs number 14, I believe. And this would be, so we'll be coming back later to do something with that. But tonight, we are asking that
[1:15:30] Council approve the annexation of the remaining of the property into our E.T.J.
[1:15:34] Any
[1:15:39] discussion?
[1:15:47] No discussion?
[1:15:48] I'll entertain a motion.
[1:15:50] I move.
[1:15:51] We approve ordinance number 611-162025.
[1:15:57] I'll second that.
[1:15:59] So I have a motion from Councilman Dane, a second from Councilman Cummings, any further discussion?
[1:16:06] If not, all in favor?
[1:16:10] Aye.
[1:16:10] All opposed? Motion passes. Thank you.
[1:16:17] Moving to H-8. Discuss an act on authorizing the City Manager to execute an agreement with all my lens. I've got to pronounce this.
[1:16:26] It's a Louer General Contractors LLC for the Laramie Circle Drainage Project in an amount not to exceed $1 million, $31,290.
[1:16:43] Mayor Council, before you tonight is this contract with the Louer and for the amount of $1 million, $31,290 for that Laramie Circle Project.
[1:16:54] As you'll remember, Council took action approximately a year ago to pass a bond for this project.
[1:17:03] This is the drainage that's off of Walcott to the west of town where we have constant
[1:17:10] flooding areas.
[1:17:12] We have a summit, the summit development that is next door to it that their drainage will
[1:17:20] will enter some of the city's current facilities that are
[1:17:25] undersized for the neighborhoods that are in place currently.
[1:17:29] We have houses that constantly have to battle,
[1:17:32] the water getting up to their front doors
[1:17:34] and into their grudges.
[1:17:36] This project will fix that.
[1:17:39] We went out, we had gone out for bid on this project
[1:17:42] and we pulled the bids because we re-scoped the project.
[1:17:48] And so we went back to bid and a lure was the lowest bidder at this project.
[1:17:54] We have worked with the lure in the past and have been happy with working with the lure.
[1:17:59] And we think they'll do a really good job.
[1:18:02] And we recommend that you approve this contract tonight.
[1:18:07] And Nester's here to answer any engineering questions if you're tired of hearing me.
[1:18:15] I just had one question, and it's probably a Michelle question, but we were spending some
[1:18:25] money up front, but we're looking at repaying it back when we do a big bond package.
[1:18:33] Can you explain that a little bit more?
[1:18:39] Robin Peter to pay Paul or something like that.
[1:18:41] So we did a reimbursement resolution, which allows us to take money out of our current funds to pay towards this project, and then once we sell those bonds, we're able to take some of the bond proceeds to move back into the funds where we took the initial money out of, yes sir.
[1:19:02] I hope that's a quick and easy explanation. It was not near an accounting explanation, but that's what it is.
[1:19:08] Okay. His February the month to sale long. I mean, how far down the road before we would
[1:19:16] be needing that would be a Michelle question. I don't have the answer to that off hand.
[1:19:21] I don't, she's got it lined out. I know that like I said council approved this almost a
[1:19:26] year ago to do this. And it seems like February would be correct, but I don't, I don't want
[1:19:40] Yeah, I just have a quick question. So the bid of $1,000,000, basically $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
[1:19:51] What, I guess, can it go over that?
[1:19:56] Like, what if they get into the project in terms into one point?
[1:20:00] 5 million. I mean, how do we they could submit change orders, but those with those we would see those before they were approved. Okay. Okay. Do we have a timeline on, like, when it would be started, how long will it take?
[1:20:19] Council major to that end. Once the bidding is completed, now we're in the process of conducting side survey for identifying the branches to leaders that are present.
[1:20:32] and once the construction started they mobilized the duration is not to exceed five
[1:20:37] but also in that case we're taking into account that we're looking into the
[1:20:43] holidays, we're looking to the wet sea so in that case that five-month timeline
[1:20:47] encompass all of those potential events okay you're looking at pulling the
[1:20:55] treasure pretty quick come again sir sorry sorry I speak Larry the cable
[1:21:03] guy.
[1:21:06] You're looking at starting the project pretty quick.
[1:21:09] Yes, sir. That's a good one.
[1:21:11] All right.
[1:21:14] Thank you.
[1:21:15] You have a brief summary of what the product, how it's going to solve the issue.
[1:21:22] So imagine that the outlet, or currently Laramie Circle sits, it's pretty much in the middle of the neighborhood.
[1:21:29] what we're trying to is in that case streamline the open channel or the
[1:21:34] grass section into a concrete cover just to ensure just to help move the
[1:21:39] water faster because the area is so flat. So in that case we're improving the
[1:21:45] open channel or the grass channel into a concrete flume that in that case takes
[1:21:50] the runoff from the neighbor inside the neighborhood and take it away through
[1:21:56] to the west, sorry, yeah, the west portion behind the unimproved area and in that case,
[1:22:05] leading into the textile channel, which is the proper course of the water at that area.
[1:22:11] It's not going to affect that other development that is going west of there, is it?
[1:22:17] No, sir.
[1:22:17] We're actually, you're talking about Heritage Ridge, if I'm not mistaken.
[1:22:22] So, we were in conversations with them just in that case first to address or ask them if they would benefit from that channel.
[1:22:30] We verified that the drainage would not be affected in any way, shape, or form.
[1:22:35] And in that case, we ventured into conversations because in that case, we wanted to guarantee that we would have space not only for the constructing of the flume but also for access and maintenance.
[1:22:44] And in that case, we came up with an agreement that satisfiedable with parties.
[1:22:48] Yeah, I had the same question, and I do remember that, and I thought we talked about it back
[1:22:55] then. Is there a lot of way or an access behind it's utilities. Okay, other question is for
[1:23:08] Brett. I guess I'm not quite understanding. We passed bond 500,000. We used 200,000 for the study.
[1:23:15] So we've got 300,000 left but the project is going to cost a million dollars.
[1:23:21] So Michelle sent a text that she is bundling them with the wastewater treatment plan bonds.
[1:23:36] So when I said we passed the bonds, we sold the bonds for the drainage is what we did.
[1:23:44] that I apologize, and the 2018 bond package had the drainage in it, and so we used some
[1:23:51] of that for the drainage study that we were kind of on the downhill side of, currently,
[1:23:56] and then with the remainder, we were applying to this project, and then, like I said, Michelle
[1:24:02] just texted that she's actually bundling the sand with some of the wastewater bonds,
[1:24:07] because Nestor is going to be doing a whole bunch of different CIP stuff for our wastewater
[1:24:13] program and so of course as you're aware the waste water treatment plants is way
[1:24:19] more than what we bonded with the Texas Water Development Board so when we
[1:24:23] go out for the second set of bonds there this project will be looped into that
[1:24:26] with the reimbursement resolution to pay us back into the funds.
[1:24:45] Sorry if that
[1:24:47] So because of the way that the city operates with our funds, so we have our fund that we'll have whatever access or reserves that we have, we will pull some money out of those.
[1:25:00] And we will start paying on this project with that. Council will pass a reimbursement resolution that allows us to sell the bonds after the date that we started paying on them. And then we will take once those proceeds come in from the selling the bonds. We will take that and put it back into the funds that we utilize.
[1:25:19] I understand that, but you're going to have a low money to yourself, understand that.
[1:25:24] So basically, the funding of this is going to come to the bonds that we're going to
[1:25:29] use to improve the sewer system.
[1:25:32] Yes, sir.
[1:25:33] All right.
[1:25:33] Thank you.
[1:25:35] Well said.
[1:25:36] Councillor Moorah.
[1:25:37] All right.
[1:25:39] Any other questions?
[1:25:41] I understand.
[1:25:42] All right.
[1:25:46] All right.
[1:25:46] There is a suggested action item.
[1:25:48] There
[1:25:52] it is.
[1:25:57] I'll make a motion to authorize the City of Management to execute an agreement
[1:26:01] with the law general contractors LLC for the Laramie Circle of Drainage Project in the
[1:26:07] amount not to exceed $1 million, $31,290. I'll second it.
[1:26:15] I have a motion from Councilman Wilson, a second from Councilman Morrell. Any other discussion?
[1:26:22] if not all in favor aye all opposed motion passes thank you all right moved to agenda item h9
[1:26:37] Discuss an act on the proposed 2026 city council meeting and city of pilot point holiday dates
[1:26:44] Good afternoon evening
[1:26:49] It's been a long day
[1:26:55] I'm going on 12 hours now.
[1:26:58] These are the proposed meeting dates and city holidays for y'all to consider.
[1:27:04] This kept with the schedule of the second and fourth Thursdays of each month
[1:27:11] with only one meeting in November and one meeting in December.
[1:27:15] And then the proposed city holidays
[1:27:18] days. For 2025, the council had given staff Wednesday,
[1:27:28] December 24th, Thursday,
[1:27:31] December 25th, and Friday, which is a four-hour day, December 26th off. And since
[1:27:39] next year, that will fall on a Thursday, Friday, and it's totally up to
[1:27:43] council if y'all want to do this. Of course, we have Thursday, January 1st off, so I
[1:27:49] I put Friday, January 2, but y'all can take that off if you want, since we only, we're
[1:27:56] here to 11, 30 on Fridays.
[1:27:58] Any
[1:28:04] discussion?
[1:28:07] Thoughts?
[1:28:09] On the regular council meeting, something that's last year we had some issues possibly with
[1:28:14] spring break.
[1:28:16] Do we know when spring break will be for next year?
[1:28:23] usually don't have the calendar out this year, for next
[1:28:33] year.
[1:28:36] Oh, for this year, yeah, I'll say.
[1:28:40] I mean, it doesn't affect me.
[1:28:44] It'll be March, no.
[1:28:46] Yeah.
[1:28:47] So maybe that's what the...
[1:28:51] Let's see. That would be the March 12th meeting. I mean we could what if we did that that next Thursday?
[1:29:00] Which is the 19th? Yes.
[1:29:06] Change March 12th March 19th. Are you guys good with that? I had a question about the fire department all day.
[1:29:14] I'm all forgiven them. A holiday, 100%, but what if no one's working fire department?
[1:29:21] and on the September 11, do we have coverage?
[1:29:24] Like, how does that work?
[1:29:25] They don't get the holiday off.
[1:29:27] They just get, they don't get paid for Labor Day,
[1:29:29] the ones who work on Labor Day,
[1:29:31] so they get paid on, yeah.
[1:29:33] Okay, I see, okay, I see you're saying.
[1:29:34] No, they work their normal shifts.
[1:29:35] Okay, you said we were gonna have fire department on May.
[1:29:38] September 11, that's like, that might be an issue.
[1:29:46] All right, well, if we have a March meeting on the 19th,
[1:29:49] do we need another one on the 26th?
[1:29:51] We could so we could just have one meeting or if only one council person is going to be gone
[1:29:58] You'd still have a quorum so you could still
[1:30:00] Conductive meeting on your regular. Second and fourth Thursdays as normal. I was I was going to say I don't know if I have plans. I leave that to my wife. But if I do, I mean, like, like Brett said, I mean, it's not a huge deal. There will probably still be. I mean, I'm the only one with children in school still. So it's up to you guys.
[1:30:29] I'd be for leaving the March 12th like it is because it was just a discussion this last
[1:30:38] time.
[1:30:39] Yes, it was.
[1:30:40] I remember.
[1:30:42] Very thoughtfully, but personally,
[1:30:49] I like the proposed dates for City Council meetings
[1:30:53] and holidays listed here.
[1:31:00] In myself.
[1:31:02] Yeah.
[1:31:03] You want a motion?
[1:31:05] Yes, sir.
[1:31:05] I move we approve this list of City Council meetings and City holidays for the
[1:31:11] 2026 year
[1:31:13] I'll second that
[1:31:16] Motion from Councilman Dane the second councilman Cummings any further discussion
[1:31:21] If not all those in favor
[1:31:23] All opposed
[1:31:26] Okay,
[1:31:31] we have
[1:31:34] staff reports or in your packets do we have any questions for anybody?
[1:31:52] No questions?
[1:32:00] I always
[1:32:00] comment on the development services report for those that seek to see where we're going.
[1:32:11] these are posted online on our website and shows how busy our development is. So
[1:32:21] anyway if anybody ever wants to see this they do a good job of providing
[1:32:27] updated information.
[1:32:31] Any other questions?
[1:32:32] the question would be here is like on page 95. So the hall of the end project, would that be sent to they on schedule or
[1:32:43] to discuss it?
[1:32:46] Is everything be with the law on that? Is it over here? What are they coming?
[1:32:53] But nobody's here for the
[1:32:54] development services. Yes, I can't answer where they're at exactly. I know they all the plans have been reviewed and
[1:33:02] inter-completed as you're aware that council has done the amendment to the agreement.
[1:33:06] I think everything is going as it should.
[1:33:09] Sorry about the side there.
[1:33:12] And I would be remiss if I didn't mention where John and Darryl are.
[1:33:16] They're at the Texas APA conference.
[1:33:20] They're both in attendance Darryl presented today and had a good turnout.
[1:33:25] And tomorrow they will be receiving the Gold Award for our Downtown Master Plan and
[1:33:31] in the area of economic development.
[1:33:33] Awesome, awesome.
[1:33:37] I have a question for Chief Matthews.
[1:33:40] She here?
[1:33:41] There
[1:33:44] she is.
[1:33:46] There you are.
[1:33:46] Hello, how are you?
[1:33:49] Hey, I know you don't have a crystal ball,
[1:33:51] but the open, the nine positions that are open.
[1:33:56] So we've had 32 applications, right?
[1:34:01] We have a little bit more than that now,
[1:34:02] but since that, yes, 38 was 32.
[1:34:04] OK, and I know you have to vet all those and everything.
[1:34:08] And I know there's a lot of background checks
[1:34:10] and everything.
[1:34:12] But in your expertise, your opinion,
[1:34:18] let's just even half of that number nine,
[1:34:20] let's say four positions.
[1:34:22] How long do you think you'll take
[1:34:23] to fill those half of those positions?
[1:34:26] So I have brought up Sergeant Wilson, who
[1:34:28] is also my training coordinator and recruiting officer.
[1:34:31] and she is right now working on all of our recruiting and application so I just
[1:34:37] bought her up in just in case there's some questions that she might be able to answer better than myself but right
[1:34:41] now we are we we have interviews last week and we got two out of those interviews
[1:34:47] a conditional officer offers we're having interviews again in November 5th and so
[1:34:54] we'll have another round there and then we'll have another round so the the process
[1:34:58] This is...
[1:35:01] Interviews, or boards, interviews, backgrounds.
[1:35:08] They have to pass all those things so that's all part of the conditional offer. And then they have to pass all those things, and if they pass all those things, and if they are certified already, they still have to go through a modified FTO training. And if they're not certified, then they have to go through a full form of training for FTO.
[1:35:30] before they can be. Okay, so let's say the perfect world, we have applicants that are certified.
[1:35:39] How long does the process take to do all the drug screens background checks from the
[1:35:46] conditional offer? How long does that process take? It could take up to a month, so it really
[1:35:51] just depends on the background investigator because that background investigator may have more
[1:35:55] than just that one person or our agency that they're working on, so we really, we give it
[1:36:00] So then as soon as we have them,
[1:36:01] have the matter have been made for them, right?
[1:36:04] Yeah, so we gave them the last two
[1:36:05] that we just gave conditional two last week.
[1:36:08] So it's really however long it takes them to get those
[1:36:11] backgrounds back and all the other testing
[1:36:14] that they have to do in complete before we can say,
[1:36:17] okay, you're moving on to the next step.
[1:36:19] Okay, so I guess my follow-up question is,
[1:36:23] and I cannot know you don't have a crystal ball,
[1:36:24] so I'm not holding you to these numbers by any means.
[1:36:27] But nine officers,
[1:36:29] officers like, is it reasonable to say that could be six months, could it be eight months,
[1:36:35] could it be a year?
[1:36:36] Do we have this position, what do you think is a reasonable time frame to see those positions
[1:36:42] get filled?
[1:36:43] Are you asking as far as hiring or actually officers in a car on their own out of training?
[1:36:49] Officers in their cars on the streets providing service, yes, out of training.
[1:37:06] And that's officers again who are not certified that if we put them through they still have to go through the full training and after we finish getting them through the background and all that good stuff, get them on the road.
[1:37:18] They still have to get uniforms and all that they can't get on the road so they get uniforms and best once they do that then we can get them on the road and then they start their field training process.
[1:37:27] which is four months you said okay yeah so those those individuals would take
[1:37:33] take longer to get out there so that's why we're kind of like made our most of
[1:37:39] the applicants that you're getting are they gonna require the full four-month
[1:37:44] training course or yeah it's a mixture of both yeah it's a mixture of both which
[1:37:50] is good experience in some that are not so. Do we, do we have enough training officers
[1:37:58] to wear if we hire four officers that need, we're forward new police people, police officer
[1:38:04] police people, I'm super tired of a long day, very long day, police officers, do we have
[1:38:10] enough training officers to be able to handle that if we get four or five? We have already
[1:38:16] work that out, sir. We can make it work. Don't worry about it. All right. I'm just
[1:38:22] asking the questions. We are going to make it work. We have the officers, we have the people,
[1:38:27] we have the things we we're working on, that training schedule, how it would look with less
[1:38:32] than enough officers to be able to get training done efficiently. So we're not just skipping over
[1:38:38] things. So we're going to make sure it's done correctly. So even if that means we have to modify
[1:38:45] Okay, it seems like y'all are on top of it and I appreciate it.
[1:38:49] Thank you.
[1:38:50] We appreciate you.
[1:38:55] Anybody else?
[1:38:59] If not...
[1:39:00] You're curious where the waste management report?
[1:39:09] didn't see it.
[1:39:11] Yes.
[1:39:12] We'll reach out.
[1:39:14] We'll get it.
[1:39:16] Is there franchise coming up?
[1:39:18] for a new next next November I believe so we'll have I think it's next November so
[1:39:26] and there's a six month that we have to notice them for if we're going out to
[1:39:32] bid so I believe I'll have to pull the contract and double check that but I
[1:39:35] believe it's the next November and it's a six month notice if we're going out
[1:39:39] to bid which would put us around May that we would have to notice.
[1:39:44] Alright, thank you.
[1:39:45] Thanks.
[1:39:49] Any other questions?
[1:39:53] Alright, we've exhausted our business.
[1:39:56] I will entertain a motion.
[1:39:57] I'll make a motion.
[1:39:58] I'll make a motion.
[1:40:00] Motion from Councilman Hotsman, second, from Councilman Cummings. All in favor? Aye. All opposed?
[1:40:08] meetings adjourned.