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All the meaning to order misgivist. You want to do the roll call? Trustee LeRuin? Here. Trustee Wieczowski. Here. Trustee Benucci. Here. Trustee Calcanis. Here. Trustee Kiefer. Present. Trustee Larson. Here. Mayor Gerdownis. Here. Thank you. Just for protocol, say, Trustee Calcanis is joining us via Zoom. If there are no objections from any board members, then we can proceed with her attendance via Zoom. Are there any objections?
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from the board as to Trustee Calcana's attending via Zoom.
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No. No. No. No. Okay, very good then.
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A little bit of housekeeping there I didn't think there would be.
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Tonight we have, oh we're going to start with the pledge allegiance.
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Let's stand for the pledge please.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
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and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God
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indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
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Thank you.
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I want to wish everyone a happy new year.
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It is 2025, it's amazing to think it's already 2025, but it is, 2024 is in the books.
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A lot of good things have happened in playing field over 2024, a lot of hard work has been
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put into a lot of projects and things, and we're looking forward to just that much more
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if not more in 25.
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The next item on the presidential comments, we do have an oath of office for officer
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Kelly buddy chief you want to start us out with this one.
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Yes thank you. You
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guys know we've done this a time or two now how important it is when we have a
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new officer that we're swearing in we like to do it in front of the village board
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so in front of the crowd as well. So everyone sees so we are very proud of that.
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Kelly I can't believe the amount of people who showed up here tonight
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you're swearing in. I mean this is I've never seen this many at a swearing in
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before so. But I will say Kelly comes to us. She is a cold city born and raised. We kind
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of stole her from the Yorkville Police Department. She was there for four years. So she is
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now, you know, a part of the Plainfield family. This is the third officer we have gotten
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from Yorkville so I don't know it is good it's it's all good so I don't know if we should be driving
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through Yorkville but Kelly you know comes to us like I said from the Yorkville Police Department
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she's here with her family her husband DJ is a canine officer for the Wilk County Sheriff's Office
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so with that said Kelly come on forward for the oath of office.
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Having
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been appointed to the Office of Police Officer, in the village of Plaintfield, in
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Will and Kendall County, Zillenoid, do solemnly swear, that I will support the Constitution
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of the United States,
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and the Constitution of the State of Illinois, and that I will faithfully
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discharge the duties of the office of police officer in the village playing field and will and
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Kendall County's Illinois for the best of my ability. Congratulations.
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So the other thing we do we have a
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little tradition which a lot of police departments do is we have a loved one come up and her husband
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and DJ is going to come up and pin the badge on Kelly.
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Good job, chief. Build in the team, right? It's kind of like working through the portal, kind of, isn't it? As long as we provide you with enough NIL, I think we'll be fine, won't we?
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knowledge and service, Catholic schools in Illinois and across the nation are celebrating National Catholic Schools week from Sunday, January 26th through Saturday, February 1st, 2025, whereas nearly 38 Catholic schools in the diocese of Joliet provide quality education in the Catholic tradition to over 16,000 students and their families annually, whereas the Catholic schools in the state of Illinois have educated many students in preparation for the responsibilities as residents of this state and as members of society.
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Whereas the Catholic schools in the state can currently provide students with an education
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that emphasizes the formation of moral values and commitment to community service.
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And whereas the welfare of the state of Illinois requires that this and future generations
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of school age children be assured ample opportunity to develop their intellectual capacities to
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the fullest.
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Now therefore, I, John F. Argadillas, President of the Village of Plainfield, Illinois, do
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So here by proclaim January 26th through February 1st, 2025,
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as National Catholic Schools week throughout the Village of Plainfield, Illinois,
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and I commend this observance to all our citizens.
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Is there someone representing the Catholic schools?
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There you are.
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Let me come down and I'll present.
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If you'd like to say a few words, you're welcome to as well, or no, I'll just present you with this.
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Very good, trusty comments.
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Congratulations to Officer Buddy.
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I think it speaks volumes to see such a commitment within the family of law
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enforcement. I know she'll do a great job at the PD. So welcome aboard to her and
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all of our officers stay absolutely safe in 2025. And I think we've got some
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canine stuff coming up pretty soon too. So excited. Those promotions as well.
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And I
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just wanted to say a quick congratulations to Trustee Kel Kamis who's not here
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right now on her new baby, which is the reason why she's not here. I'm glad
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everyone's healthy and happy.
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She is here. She can hear you doing well at home
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I understand which is good. Any other trusty comments this evening? Very good
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now is the time for public comment. Anybody who would like to make a comment from
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the public is welcome to step before the microphone. State your name please and
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make your comment or ask your question.
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No, no, no, just a little
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the light on the base of the microphone should be on okay speak into the
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My girl, please please.
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Aye, mayors, thank you. I'll make this short and sweet. I'm not a public speaker, so additionally, full transparency. I do watch the board meetings a lot. I don't know if there's a good thing or bad thing. So I'm here tonight to ask the trustees with regards to the industrial land as well as a lot of the homes that are going up around the village. Just to maybe take a step back.
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and think about the decision that might be made tonight.
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I don't have any problems with the homes and development,
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but it just seems like over the last four years,
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there's just been a lot of building,
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a lot of the homes around where I live
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in the northern part of the village are not yet started
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or some of them haven't been completed yet.
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So I just feel like there's going to be a lot of traffic
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And with a lot of the things that are that I've seen with regards to the village board over the last six months a year.
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It just feels like there's a lot of traffic that's taking place.
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I commute a lot to the city on a regular basis.
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So I was telling somebody out in the hallway.
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Sometimes it takes me 20 to 30 minutes to go from 127th and Higgs to Essington to get on I-55.
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So I feel like because of the subdivisions haven't been completed, I think there's going to be a lot more traffic.
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And then additionally, if we put in a lot of industrial land at West,
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143rd is obviously going to be a truck route, so there's going to be a lot of truck traffic and so on and so forth.
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So, I would all just ask the trustees, just if you could just take a step back, wait till
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things kind of pan out and see where we stand in maybe a year or two, because I'm a little
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concerned that there's going to be so much traffic just over the holidays, and chief you
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might know this, over the holidays 59 and 135 was completely closed because of a T-bone
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accident and the traffic was backed up way past Bandai. So just that's all I'm
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asking is just take a step back maybe and think and kind of see I know there's
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a comprehensive plan we talk about traffic improvements and so on and so forth
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but I think the next six months you're going to see an uptick in traffic and I'm
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just like I said just asking for it maybe take a step back. Thank you very much.
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Yes please step forward sir.
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Good evening trustees and President Arguedales. I'm pleased to present myself. I'm Andaline Calgadi. I'm the superintendent of School District 308 and I see one of my colleagues here this evening.
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Glenn is here from 202 and I want to just invite you and share with you some good news
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that we are in the process of engaging a strategic plan.
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We are proud to serve students from Plainfield, many of them are Grand Park or Murphy and
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I'll speak at least high school and throughout the district because students may participate
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in various programs across many of our schools.
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We're the seventh largest school district in Illinois and we are proud members of also and
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include Plainflow as we're proud of that history and that connection here.
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One of the things that I'm here to share with you is that we've started the last couple
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of months engaged in a strategic planning process.
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And in order to really think about how we coordinate the supports to support all of our schools.
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We have 24 school sites and with all the resources, how do we pace ourselves to ensure that
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every effort is made to ensure that every one of our schools is the best it can be.
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We know that effort cannot be left alone to one individual or just a few individuals.
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So it's important to me to come out this evening and reach out to you.
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Invite you all for your contributions and reflections.
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If you go to our website, schooldistrict www.sd308.org, you're going to see a welcoming sign
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on there of our story and we want to invite you to join our story and to invite your residents
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to join in this storytelling and also more importantly envisioning our future so we can have a shared story of the success of our school district.
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I have some flyers here for you this evening. I'll leave them with you here and then I'm grateful also to be joined by a fellow board member who will come up and speak equally.
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Thank you.
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Other public comment this evening?
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Later, can I see that this one? Okay.
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That's fine. Thank you. Good evening and happy new year to everyone. My name is Mary Jo Onemith. I'm actually an Ask We Go resident, but more importantly, I have the privilege of serving as a member of the SD 308 Board of Education Board of Education. It's hard to do in one breath. I'm going to just kind of piggyback on what Dr. Calgatti said. We are putting the strategic plan together and the goal of the strategic plan is to ensure that our students
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when they leave our doors for the last time as students are the most well-rounded,
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well-educated, happy, to an extent that they can be.
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A fulfilled people that will be ready to answer into society and become productive members of society.
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That's a lofty goal, but it's one that we think that we can at least start to head toward
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and make a big dent in, but in order to get that done we do need to put this plan together.
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And being as large a school district as we are, we know that every individual has kind of a
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different idea of how to get there. My idea of how to accomplish that may be a little bit different
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from yours based on where you live, based on how old your children are. If you have children in the
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district, if you don't, I mean, there's, we have such a diverse community. There's a myriad of
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things that can kind of change everyone's perception.
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We think it doesn't serve the community for all of us,
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for just the board, and some of the admin at school
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to sit together and put a plan together
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without any input from the rest of the community
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because the community is what makes up our school district.
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So again, to kind of piggyback on what Dr. Kelgady was saying,
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we are having a number of forms of small group discussions.
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we actually just had two of them go on today where people can kind of just give us their input.
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We want to be able to get input from as many people in the community as we possibly can,
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so that we can make sure, as I said, that we put together the best,
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most diverse plan that leads us into the future.
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And again, ultimately services our kids, which in turn services the community.
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So SD308.org, as Dr. K said, please take a moment to just take a look and again, any input
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of yours is welcome, please spread the word.
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We welcome everyone's comments.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for coming.
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As is our long time policy, if you want to go home, you can go home too.
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We don't expect people to wait for the whole meeting.
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Other public comments, please step forward, state your name.
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My name
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is Stephan Dubois. I have to be honest, this is my very first Board of Trustees meeting.
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I've lived in Plainfield for about a year and a half. And my wife and I and my son and my mother-in-law live in part of the new development.
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So the gentleman that spoke first, I wanted to thank him first for his comment.
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Because my wife and I, we moved out here planning to start a family.
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My wife was actually pregnant when we moved into our home.
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And the idea was is that we are moving to an area that was very family oriented and about six months, maybe a year after moving in, we noticed a distribution center warehouse was being built literally on our street.
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And honestly, it hurt a lot because my son, I love him more than anything.
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and I'm missing time with him right now to be here to speak with you all, because I don't want him growing up in a neighborhood where we have semi-truck traffic, and we've all driven the freeways in Chicago, I imagine, from one time or another.
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We've seen the way that they drive, it's not even their fault, they're overworked, and it's dangerous.
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I also have a dog, God forbid if he ever got out, fortunately he's a German shepherd, he won't go anywhere, he's terrified to leave home without me.
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But, with all of these changes happening, the immense amount of traffic, specifically
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with semi-trucks, trains are constantly going through traffic aside, it can be dangerous
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for kids, especially young kids.
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What if my song got out?
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I look, I fenced in my yard, but is that enough?
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I don't know.
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I pray that I do a good job, a good enough job as a father to protect him, to make him
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aware but in my eyes it it just seems very concerning to see the type of
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development being placed right next to families and I hope you all just take
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a minute to think about it and maybe kind of gauge a few things traffic is
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the infrastructure in place is it safe those are the types
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The things I worry about. Thank you. Any other public comment?
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That's fine. Just identify
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both of yourselves. And it's probably your last name, but it's hard to just spell and
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Smith. Miranda Kinsinger, K-I-N-S-I-N-G-E-R. And Brandon Kinsinger.
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So before we move to plain field in 2020, we spent so much time in plain field because we
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loved the community that our family joked we should move here. And in 2020, we did. Right
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before the pandemic and you know for such a challenging time playing field was
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instantly home and we loved that and since the five years we've been here in
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Liberty Grove we've seen hundreds of homes be constructed near us and at the
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end of the day their homes they give other people the same chance to live in the
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great community that I love however putting an industrial park right next to all
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of these homes that have been built. It doesn't seem like this is for the people or the
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citizens or for our community. It seems like it has different motives. I own a business
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in Plainfield. Most of my business is commuting. Over the years, the commute times the traffic
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has become worse. Our infrastructure already isn't supporting. All that Plainfield's already
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grown, let alone to add more in semis. On 143rd there, there are children that play. We walked
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to the little cheesecake shop and what used to be family video but you know the
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semi-traffic there isn't safe that this isn't the spot for this so I just
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wanted to come today and express that and basically the same comment for me
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sorry let me raise this up a little bit here you know we had the goal of coming up
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here because we liked playing fields very much, you know, when we were kids and, you know,
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so we did end up moving up here, as my wife had said, we're going to start a family.
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Other things came.
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There's neither here nor there.
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Basically, what I'd like to get to is understand the expansion of designation on 143rd to move
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the truck traffic through.
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I was looking through it.
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It seems very good on paper, but I'm not quite understanding exactly how that fully connects
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the traffic into 55.
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Are they bringing the traffic back into 126 on the east side of 59?
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One thing I would advise you and anybody else interested, they're on our website, the plans
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for 143rd or laid out, but just briefly, it's going to be extended east when it dead ends
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on 59, it's being extended, it's under construction now, so it'll be extended east to present day 126.
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So the traffic route 126 will be swapped out with Lockport Street, 126 will be 143rd Street.
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That plan is one that's been in the works for maybe 15 or 18 years and that's coming to fruition.
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So it will connect up to the existing route 126 and 143rd Street will be route 126 probably in 2026.
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Okay. Okay. There's more information on the website. So anybody who's interested in the details, please check out the website, the Village website.
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Gotcha. Understood.
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The ending comment I would have to that would be, could we just see how that expansion works before we zone out more industrial park?
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Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for coming. Any other public comments?
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Very good. We'll move on with the business meeting.
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is it? Oh okay please step forward.
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I have three basic comments I'm going to start with. I don't
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appreciate being censored by you Mayor Arvidales and it's illegal and I would appreciate being put
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back on the public page. You were caught and lies at the last meeting and that's why you censored me.
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That's number one. Number two, I'm going to get into the brunt of this. I'd be happy to explain it to you if you'd like after the meeting.
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The East traffic is going right into another part of your forgotten plane field that you don't really care about.
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It's going into other residents. If you look at this village plan, all of the purple here,
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which is most of this page, is now becoming industrial.
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industrial. Industrial. This is the north part of our village. Industrial. They took away
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almost 500 acres and turned it into industrial and
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I don't understand why you are agreeing to that. I want to know how you keep on saying it's a benefit to the village. How is this going to alleviate our tax bill? You say it's a benefit to us. How is this alleviating our tax bill? My tax bill keeps going up higher and higher and higher, since I've moved here in early 20s. In fact, early 2000s, 2001, my tax bill is more than doubled.
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I haven't seen it on paper. You haven't spelled it out to us. You haven't said this is how it's going to alleviate. Where is the dollars?
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Where and when are places like Woodmans, Portillo's? All of these valuable assets to our community. How and when is that going to alleviate our text bill?
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How is the truck route, how is this specifically these seven warehouses going to alleviate our tax bill?
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There's no end customers to these seven warehouses. How is that going to alleviate our tax bill?
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You're going to spend our money? Who's going to pay the taxes to alleviate our tax bill?
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We're paying for, we are paying for that. We're paying for all of this infrastructure. Where is that money coming from to pay us back?
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Let me also ask this question, we're approving this east side concrete,
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I keep
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calling it concrete, it's warehouses. I know that recently, there was a, or
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sorry, the west side, there was an east side industrial that was next. It was
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where the quarry was going to be put in. I know it was bowling broke, but we were
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part of nixing that because it was next to Liberty schools. Liberty. Why was that
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nix and everyone agreed to nix that? Everyone agreed to it and we're not
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nixing all way down on the west side where there's schools, there's
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residents. Everyone here seems to be against it. I'm on Facebook all over the
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place. There aren't residents and this is rhetorical now. I'm not explaining I'm
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I'm not asking you to solutionize here or agree to disagree.
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Why was that one nixed and the west side is all open and everyone's like, let's go for
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it.
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We're all gung ho on it.
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And all these taxing bodies are gung ho on it.
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So why is that?
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So those taxing bodies that are saying, oh yeah, let's all out, we're gung ho on it.
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We're great for it.
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And I'm wondering why District 308 is out here asking for it too.
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So bottom line is we keep talking, for 20 years, we've been talking about the infrastructure.
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We're saying we got problems for the last 20 years that I know up.
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We got problems with the infrastructure.
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Where is the infrastructure plan in here?
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Where's the infrastructure plan?
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We've been as residents, as a community, we've been saying there's a problem with infrastructure.
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Trains, streets, trucks, we've been saying it's been taken, who said 27 minutes to get from,
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you know, one side and the bill is the other? No, no, no, it's 27 minutes to get from 59 to 55.
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Where's the infrastructure plan?
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That should have come before this.
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Okay, is there any other public comment this evening?
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Please date and spell your last name, please.
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Muffle, on top of what everybody has already said, my biggest question is why are we going
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to move forward with this industrial plan when we have no businesses that have even expressed
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interest in it?
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So we're going to put up concrete buildings that are going to help our taxpayers, but nobody's
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interested at this point and said, yes, build these because we're going to move in.
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That's what I just want to add to the previous comments.
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Thank you.
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Any other public comment?
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Hello, Nora Dalton, D-A-L-T-O-N. I've been a Plainfield resident for 20-plus years.
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I also have a unique experience in national real estate for the past 20 years, including
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a lot of industrial.
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I also have worked in transportation specifically for roadway, which is FedEx company, so I know uniquely what lots of trucks do to a community in the issues that come with that.
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I-
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Support what the previous citizens have set up here. And to be honest, I think the best word that I can say is that this is a detrimental plan to Plainfield. If I wanted to live in Romeoville and Juliet with lots of industrial, that was shiny and new at one point, I would have gone there. We all know what eventually happens there. And I think Plainfield has the opportunity to look and take a pause.
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because, as I understand it, like Kathleen said, we don't have anybody clamoring for this.
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So, these jobs, there are no jobs, there's nobody supporting anything.
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My real issue is, I am very involved with the community.
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I don't know anybody who wants this.
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I'm in lots of organizations. I have not met a single person who says, yes,
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and it is an ice world, but they're right across from that new subdivision.
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So, somebody wants this.
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and my question is, who is that and what are their motives, and they should be checked.
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Thank you. That's it. Got all the notes? Appreciate it.
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Thank you. Any other public comment this evening? Very good. We'll move on to our business meetings.
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Their motion to approve the agenda.
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The motion's been made and seconded to approve the agenda. Trustee Ruin?
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Yes.
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Trustee Wajowski?
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Yes.
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Trustee Bonite?
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Yes.
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Trustee Kalkanis?
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Yes.
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Trustee Kiefer?
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Yes.
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Trustee Larson.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Motion carries.
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Ms. Davis, please proceed with number two.
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The consent agenda.
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We're seeking board consideration and motion to approve the consent agenda to include
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minutes at the board meeting.
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Health on December 16th.
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Bill's paid and bill's payable report for January 6th.
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Approval of the reduction of the MI Homes, Lockley Park, bond number ending in 1847.
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remaining bond balance of $67,259.05 approval of the reduction of the MI Homes Riverstone
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bond ending in 0381 remaining bond balance of $4,558,691.78 and reduction in bond ending
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in 0-383 as remaining bond balance of $2,760,257.25.
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Ordinance number 37-01, increasing the number of class F liquor licenses to 26 for Cooper's
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Hawk to be located at 163-44 South Boulevard Place, and Mogreen to be located at 137-17 South
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about 30 sweet A and authorize the village president to execute an intergovernmental agreement with Kendall County providing for an annual contribution of $7,220.000, pursuant to the agreement to the Kendall area transportation program expiring on December 31st, 2027.
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The motion has been made and seconded to approve item A through F under the consent agenda trustee brewing.
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Yes.
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Trustee Wajewski.
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Yes.
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Trustee Benucci.
[33:09]
Yes.
[33:10]
Trustee Kielkannis.
[33:13]
Trustee Kiefer.
[33:14]
Yes.
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Trustee Larson.
[33:15]
Yes.
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Thank you, that motion carries.
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Ms. Gives, please proceed with item three.
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Next item on the agenda is Tracy Johnson and Wilson.
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We're seeking board consideration of a motion to authorize payments to Tracy Johnson and Wilson.
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the amount of $3,502 and 25 cents.
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The motion has been made, and seconded.
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Are there any comments or questions on this item?
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Hearing none, I'll proceed with the roll.
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Trustee Bowie?
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Yes.
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Trustee Wajowski?
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Yes.
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Trustee Benucci?
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Yes.
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Trustee Kel-Kannis?
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Yes.
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Trustee Kiefer?
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Yes.
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Trustee Larson?
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Yes.
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Thank you, Dan.
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Motion carries.
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Please proceed with item 4, Ms. Gibbis?
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Next item on the agenda is Equal Williams and Provin's Alling.
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We're seeking for consideration of the motion to authorize
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payments to Equal Williams and Provin Valley in the amount of $1,612 and $50.
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So moved.
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Second.
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That motion's been made.
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And seconded, are there any comments or questions on this item?
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I have a question.
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Given the judgment happened in 2023, and this is more for Mr. Vogel than anybody else, and
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this involves the mayor's legal case, knowing that this went to the appellate level and
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was denied by three justices and then the denial went came through within days for reconsideration.
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Last I knew we were in 2025 and after the first of the year we worked to start a collections process.
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So when are we starting that collections process?
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I mean I think that's a question I would probably direct to the ECHO program's OLE firm because
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I've not represented the village in this to any extent whatsoever.
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Okay, so we've spent over a hundred and twenty thousand dollars from a lawsuit from 2018 that has been extended out that has been lost
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The court's up through the appellate level, so I'll reach out to Mr. Terry Eccles, which will cost the taxpayers more money as we attempt to recoup nearly $50,000, $9% interest against the mayor's judgment. Thank you. Any other comments on this matter? Ms. Gibbis.
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The motion was made in seconded to authorize payment to Equal Williams in Provenzali in the amount of $1,612.50, Trustee Ruin.
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Yes.
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Trustee Wajewski.
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Yes.
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Trustee Benucci.
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Yes.
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Trustee Kiel-Kannis.
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Yes.
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Trustee Kiefer.
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Yes.
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Trustee Larson.
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Yes.
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Thank you, the motion carries.
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Ms. Gibbs, you want to proceed with 5A?
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Next item on the agenda is TCC Plainfield.
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We're seeking board consideration of motion to open a public hearing regarding the proposed annexation agreement
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for the development known as TCC Plainfield,
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located generally south of 143rd Street
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and west of Steiner Road.
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Tomo.
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Second.
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That motion's been made and seconded.
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All in favor?
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Hi.
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All opposed.
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Thank you, that motion carries.
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Mr. Rosenova, I don't know if you wanna say anything
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during this time and Mr. Pru.
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So thank you, Mary.
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Good evening.
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Thank you.
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Trustee's, if I may, just offer a few staff comments
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as an introduction before he hand things over
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forward to the development team and hold the public hearing as well.
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This project was first introduced, the Committee of the Whole on November 25th.
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So just before Thanksgiving, I just wanted to set the stage for where we are procedurally.
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This is the first formal meeting for consideration at the village board level.
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What we're hoping to accomplish tonight is to hold the public hearing on the proposed annexation agreement.
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Then we're also asking the village board to direct our village attorney to prepare the necessary ordinances
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services for a project approval, those ordinances would come back at a subsequent meeting.
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Currently it will be anticipated at the February 3rd Village Board meeting for approval of annexation by annexation agreement for approval of a special use for planned development.
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Resoning of the property in a preliminary and final plan.
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So, procedurally we're holding public hearing and we're looking for a direction to prepare ordinances but there will be no request for project approval at tonight's meeting.
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Just a few staff comments I didn't have an opportunity to point out at the committee of the whole meeting, just to take a step back, not specific to this location, but I think it's important to recognize that the village of Cleanfield is very fortunate to have a developer of the quality of Tramble Crow looking to invest literally hundreds of millions of dollars here in the village.
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I don't think there's a community in the Chicago end area, or the state of Illinois for that matter that would not want to welcome that opportunity to consider a proposed project.
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So we're certainly fortunate to have a tremble crow here interested in investing in the village of Plainfield.
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I know we talk a lot about the importance of having infrastructure to support development and I think it's worth noting for this project at this location that
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The villager point field has already completed three significant road improvements that support this development kind of sequentially.
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The villager point field is the entity that improved 143rd Street where the ones who built 143rd Street west of Medellin out to Steiner Road, which did not exist.
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Then the village completed the extension of Steiner Road north of Blackbridge Street at Route 126 up to 143rd Street.
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And that was accomplished with the assistance of the property owner, the current property owner of the subject property here, who donated the right-of-way for Steiner Road with the understanding that the village would cooperate with future development that was compatible with the village's comprehensive plan.
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And then thirdly and most recently, the village extended 143rd Street west of Steiner Road out to Ridge Road.
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So that's the ribbon cutting we just held out in late December.
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So I think this is an excellent example of the village investing in infrastructure that supports future growth.
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I think we're familiar with the project, but just a brief description.
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It's located west of Steiner Road, between 143rd Street on the north side and
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Parkport Street around 126 on the south side and encompasses approximately 340 acres.
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The current site plan proposes up to seven buildings that would total approximately
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five million square feet of overall development that will be accomplished in phases likely
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over, you know, many years, several years.
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The proposed warehouse distribution development is entirely compatible with the trend of development.
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we see in the area really started with the Diazio Warehouse and Distribution Center that was
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approved in 2018, and then the DHL price.
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As you can see, we're just now seeing the first of those buildings in the Plain Field Business Center near and completion of the construction here in 2025. So even as these projects are approved, it takes several years to go through the closing and acquisition of the property, the final engineering, the marketing of the building.
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and finding end users. So it's not an overnight impact to the community. It certainly takes
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several years for these projects to be implemented. But again, to the trend of development, certainly
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what's being proposed is consistent with the trend of development with the area. And more
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over, the applicant applied in April of 2024. And one of the reasons we're just now getting
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to consider this in really 2025 is that it was necessary to complete the village's comprehensive plan,
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brand new comprehensive plan. It's not an update, a new comprehensive plan process.
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Our applicant was very patient with the village understanding that they didn't want and we didn't
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want a specific development proposal to drive the village's comprehensive planning efforts.
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So as the village approved or adopted, our new comprehensive plan on October of 2024
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That allowed this project now to come forward and the project is entirely compatible and consistent with the comprehensive plan that the village approved last October.
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In terms of some of the project benefits, certainly it would have substantial financial benefits during construction in terms of temporary construction impacts.
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But we're over the long-term employment benefits over 3600 permanent employees
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and estimated $6 million in annual tax revenues to all of our local units of government
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per year, so over a 10-year period that's $60 million, $60 million of property tax revenue
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to our local community.
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And that's, you know, annually in perpetuity.
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I will note a few things.
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The project was considered by the Planning Commission in July of 2024.
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Planning Commission held a public hearing.
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There was one comment, I believe, the representative of an adjoining property owner had some concerns
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about compatibility.
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And I believe our comprehensive plan addressed those concerns, I would defer to that property
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owner should he choose to speak, but certainly staff's perception that any concerns that
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were raised at that plain commission public hearing have been addressed. Beyond that there
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were no other public comments and to staff's knowledge there have been no comments, phone
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calls or emails relative to the project in support or opposition, or I just didn't say
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in support we do have communication support but no phone calls or emails in opposition
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to the project outside of that plain commission public hearing.
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In terms of the annexation agreement, which is a subject to the public hearing this evening it identifies some financial benefits to the village as we have negotiated for each of the industrial projects that have come through and in fact this project is the most generous or most substantial in terms of the dollar value of public contributions.
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and not just the total dollar value at approximately $6.4 million, but also on just a per-square-foot basis, which is a calculation we use to make sure that the projects are consistent in some of the compatible from project to project.
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So this project would provide a benefit to the village of approximately $1.28 per square foot, whereas some of the other projects have ranged from 75 cents to a dollar per square foot.
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So this is really the most generous or most substantial benefit.
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But now where do those 6.4 million dollars go?
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The agreement has been drafted to give the bill's board flexibility to identify how the
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funds are spent but staff has proposed certain projects that will be priorities based on
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our comprehensive plan and the transportation plan.
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Some of those projects could include feasibility study for a great separation on 143rd street
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east of Bandaiq Road for a phase one study for widening of 143rd street between Steiner Road and
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Wallen Drive to fund construction of future improvements to that section of Wallen Drive to
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provide financial contributions to implement our water and sanitaries or master plan in this area
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which has been a challenge as certain critics have come through so that funding would really allow
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the village to take the lead in implementing some of the regional infrastructure utility projects
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that are needed. And there's also been suggestions for
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A contribution to fund improvements within the riverfront and in other improvements. Lastly, I'll just note the project does propose constructing county line road through through the development. That's a transportation improvement that's in our current transportation plan. The developers not seeking any financial contributions for that. There is a provision in the in an excitation agreement that would allow the developer to get credit for cost for the
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intersection of county line road and route 126 which would have to be reconfigured
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potentially with road rate of way involved.
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And then the last thing I'll note, I know this is in your packet.
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There is a letter of support, a unified letter of support from all five
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units of government here, and I see many representatives in the audience to my knowledge.
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May 20 plus years here at the village of Plainfield, this is the first time for a development
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my proposal that we've had all of our peer units of government recommending approval.
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I don't want to speak for them, but I know they're deferential to the village that this is a land use decision.
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But I think it underscores the magnitude of the project and the importance to our local community.
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So with that, it's just some staff commentary.
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I'd like to turn it down and hand things over to Vince Rosanova with a Rosanova and Whitaker for any further presentation.
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Mr. Prough, thank you for that very thorough overview of things.
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I know we've had this in our committee of the holes and we've learned a lot about this project,
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but thank you for summarizing all the key points again.
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Mr. Rosenova, welcome this evening.
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Good evening, Mayor.
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podium jurors, sir.
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Please, for the record, I'm back
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this evening on behalf of the petitioner,
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which is Travel Crow Company.
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With me this evening, we have Joshua Hoffman and Matt Freightag, both with Travel Crow,
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as well as our entire design team happy to answer any questions.
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At our last meeting, we gave the long version of the overview, so for tonight,
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our plan is to first introduce Josh Rudelhoffman, who will give some additional background on Trammel Crow,
[47:08]
as well as their vision for the Plainfield Business Center,
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at which point then I'll introduce Rory Fancler, who will give an overview of her traffic study,
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And then I'll wrap it up with a summary of the economic benefits to the village and the county as always
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We're more than happy to answer any questions. So if any of those come up along the way, let us know and we'll do our best to get those answered.
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Good evening and happy new year everybody.
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Thank you Mr. Mayor, trustees and staff for the time this evening and the consideration of our application of Tremor Crow Company for the expansion of Plainfield Business Center.
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As Vince mentioned, we went into a more in-depth presentation during the Committee on the
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whole meeting.
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So I'll endeavor to be a bit more brief this evening, although revenues not always
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my top skill set.
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So I'll try to launch in here quickly.
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As Mr. Peru was so kind to enumerate in some of his opening remarks, I do have the good
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fortune to be with Tremel Crow Company.
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We've been recognized by many organizations throughout the United States as one of the
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largest and most active developers in the country.
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Specifically, over the last 11 years, we've actually developed the most square footage from
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all product types across the United States.
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We've now entered into the European markets.
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What a lot of folks also don't know is we're actually a wholly owned subsidiary of CBRE.
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CBRE is a brand that many folks are more familiar with than Tramble Crow Company.
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Why that's meaningful is it actually allows us to be a division of the largest real estate
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company in the world by a factor of several.
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We're currently ranked, I think, about 126 on the Fortune 500 companies list.
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That gives us access into capital markets, into debt markets, and perhaps most important
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to the group in this room, it gives us access to the largest employers in the world.
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In many, many cases, the brokers that we work with to help represent our buildings are actually
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the brokers also representing these tenants, and I'm going to touch on a couple of examples
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of that as we go through the presentation here this evening.
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A couple of numbers for the group here in the room currently we have $19 billion of projects
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under active development in the United States with an additional $13 billion of projects actively
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in the pipeline.
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For example, the Rousin Ellis property would be in our pipeline in terms of that calculation.
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Diling in that aperture here in the Midwest, I have the good fortune to lead our industrial
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team for the upper Midwest we cover about eight states with a priority focus on
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Chicago given its overall scale and really significant importance in the
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overall logistics within the United States of America. We currently have about
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three-quarters of a-
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$1 billion of active industrial projects under construction in the Midwest and have completed about $600 million over the last four or five years.
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Again, maybe dialing into what's most important to the folks in this room. These are the groups that we do business with on a day and a day out basis. Every logo that you see on this page, we have built buildings for, we have done that, where we are the owner, we have done that, where we are the fee developer for them. They represent thousands of jobs across our various markets that we do business in.
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And
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perhaps bringing some of that to a more relevant representation that will be meaningful to this group.
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We've had the great fortune to be in business with the city of decalbed for nearly 15 years now.
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Chicago West Business Center is out at I-88 in peace for those of you who have made me not been out west that way in a while.
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This started in 2012.
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We've currently developed about 1,000 acres out there.
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It took us, I think, five years to stick our first shovel on the ground.
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When we started that process, we had exactly zero tenants.
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And up and until we had a site that was ready for development, we had really zero significantly
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interested tenants.
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There's a saying in my business, no land, no deal.
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So, we've been working on this site that we're before you tonight to consider for two
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and a half years.
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There is nary attendants in the world that has the ability to plan their distribution
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facilities for plus years out.
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You might be surprised even the most sophisticated in the firms in the country will come to us
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and say, we're out of time we need to be in in six months.
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To it, we've recently broke ground on a building as many of you know, and actually you'll be seeing some really significant progress next week.
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We're going to start lifting our crane panels up for the exterior of that building.
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We broke ground, I believe it was, if I recall correctly, like October 15th, October 22nd, we have three proposals out of that building already.
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There is significant interest in industrial space in the village of Plainfield.
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I can assure you and I feel confident that our firm maybe more than anybody is
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placing a big bet on the demand that exists for them. But the reality is we
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simply cannot be successful if we don't have land that we can go out and
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confidently propose to these end users. Again, I'll draw you to the screen in
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front of you. What you're looking at represents about two billion dollars of
[52:38]
investment since 2018. It would not have happened if we did not have that land
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approved for development and on top of that we had a phenomenal relationship with the city of decal
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Bill Nicholas. I'll call out specifically as the city manager. He's been an absolute champion of
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Tramble Crow and our partners at Krizynski Construction. I'll also give a shout out to the decal
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county EDC that went and put some significant incentives in place. We're not seeking that in this
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location but they went out and proactively put that together and made this vision come to reality
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alongside Tramble Crow. We consider them our partners. As I mentioned, we've been here since
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2012 in the city of Decalve. We are very fortunate as Tramble Crow company to have access to a
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tremendous depth of capital. The only way these well thought out master plan industrial communities
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come to a reality is to have large developers with significant capital resources put up the risk
[53:35]
capital, as we call it, to get the, to de-risk the opportunity, to create the opportunity
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for the ultimate user.
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For our candy would not have considered this facility if we didn't have that land zone
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and approved.
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Amazon, which is the BTS on this site plan that you're looking at, this is actually an
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old site plan, so I apologize, would not have considered this location.
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They have a billion dollar facility that we're currently under construction for with Kraft
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have time food corporation absolutely would not have considered this if we had not progressed
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this improvement.
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We also have a billion dollar Facebook met a data center campus.
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What you're not seeing on here is that 900 acres of additional land we are currently working
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through and getting zone and approved to the south and to the west of this.
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These take tremendous amounts of time and tremendous amounts of capital to it.
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I'll stand up here and say it because I have to answer this question on a weekly basis.
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We're almost $1 million into this and we still obviously don't know what the outcome is.
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That's our problem.
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We're not asking for any sympathy for that.
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But the opportunities developed several hundred acres at once.
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Does not happen without a thoughtful engagement with obviously the village in this instance,
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as well as a investor and developer that will work through the process in a thoughtful and
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meaningful way, and then be there. We've been in the car.
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I have another example in KC, I don't have a slide, but a Kansas City logistics park which sits on the land next to KCI airport. We've been working on since 2008. We are in this for the long haul, and we want to be community partners with the Village of Plainfield, just like we are the City of the Cal.
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And we can talk about that a little bit in this instance. Mr. Prue mentioned we submitted our initial application for what's being considered tonight in April of 2024. That's accurate.
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We submitted a previous application, though, in the spring of 2023.
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Unfortunately, our industry competitor, C-Free, were not able to move forward on their
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project directly to our north on what's known as the Stuart farmland.
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We saw this as an opportunity, so we paused our pursuit, which was not an easy decision
[55:51]
for us, given the amount of money and time that we had invested into the Rusyn Ellis land.
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However, it did a lot of critical things.
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We already had DSV waiting to see if they could get into the community of plant field.
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We didn't, I shouldn't say we couldn't confidently tell them when we were going to be approved,
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but we knew we could solve it on the land to the north because it was already approved.
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That allowed us to put that transaction together in 90 days.
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That only happens because the land is zoned and ready to go.
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We've also broken ground, as I mentioned on the speculative project directly on the north
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side.
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that represents about an $80 million investment just on the building, probably another 25 to 50 percent of that
[56:31]
total will be invested inside that building with racking material, handling equipment, office build-out, etc.
[56:38]
The number of jobs that go along with that could vary widely, depending on what goes in there and what user.
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There is no one in this room that would like to know every single user we're going to put in these buildings more than me.
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My job would be so much easier.
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We have to go out and convince our investors and our debt partners that we
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understand the marketplace and we understand the demand drivers that are out
[57:00]
there. We take a tremendous amount of risk when we don't have a tenant. But
[57:05]
again, no land, no deal, no building, no tenant. Good parks have a combination of
[57:13]
both speculative projects and build a suits. And to that end, if we are
[57:19]
fortunate enough to get approved. We currently have three different users, all of which are names that
[57:24]
this group would recognize that have suggested they are interested, but they will not let us
[57:29]
submit a formal proposal until they know we have the ability to do so. So I assure you that the demand
[57:35]
exists in the marketplace for this to be here.
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I won't belabor the site plan that's here in front of
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you just because I think Mr. Prude did such a great job of talking about it. I know it's been in your
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board packets and I know my colleagues and partners at Kim Lee Horn and Mr. Rosenova will
[57:54]
go through and great detail what's here.
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We think this represents a good illustration of what will likely end up here but obviously
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as I've mentioned the marketplace will help us determine that.
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We do have one group that would actually potentially take two thirds of this land.
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Will we land to that tenant or that occupier?
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We don't know yet but we don't yet have the tools to find out if the answer is yes or no
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and we're hopeful to achieve that with this group.
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A couple of important things on the site plan though that maybe Mr. Poo didn't touch on.
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We've been working with the fire district now for several months, and as part of our
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developer contributions, we would actually like to provide the land, padwriting for their
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development within the park.
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Not only does this provide a clear and measurable benefit to the community here in Plainfield, but
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frankly, it provides a clear and measurable benefit to us.
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This allows us to confidently tell our tenants that we have one of the best fire production
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districts at their doorstep.
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Many, many users find this very important.
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You may not realize this, but different product that goes into these buildings has different
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fire classifications, which requires different sprinkler systems.
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It allows them to stack to a certain height or not to a certain height.
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Having that adjacency of a potential firehouse right next to that is a tremendous benefit for
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us too.
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So we are absolutely aligned and how much this could mean for not only playing field business center
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But the village of playing field and we're actually thrilled that we're able to potentially have this be part of our development
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Maybe most importantly what we were able to accomplish by pivoting in the fall of 2024
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I'm sorry the fall of 2023
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Was to acquire the 200 acres to our north that was owned by the Stuart farms
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That allowed us to create something that no one else could do
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The previous entitlement actually restricted access off of this site, so you would not have been able to access it to the Rousson Ellis Farmland, but there are 340 acres.
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It would have to bend from other roadways, either Stein or 126.
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We came in, we put the DSV deal together, and we have a permanent easement now that we've put in place for our benefit as well as anyone else that would ever own this land besides...
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The utilities in the roadway now are granted in perpetuity to provide access to this site. That allows us to take all truck traffic and remove it from Steiner. Does it allow us to remove truck traffic from the entire community, of course not? Just like houses, there's no way to eliminate the car traffic that's associated with those. I'll be the first to admit. My father was a truck driver, so maybe I have a softer spot. My heart for trucks. Mother was a hairstylist. I didn't get the hair gene, but there is a lot of really good statistics.
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around the jobs that we put into the facilities.
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And believe it or not, there's actually a lot of supporting evidence
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as to the less impactful traffic impacts that truck traffic has
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versus residential development, which Roy will touch on in her presentation.
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But I think it is important to note that this allows us to have
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essentially a 550-acre, fully coordinated development plan
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that will be universal in its architectural theme,
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or I should say complementary, I know my architect would correct me if I said universal because
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that's not good architecture. It allows us to master plan all the engineering, utilities,
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access points, roadway connections. That can only be done with a thoughtful and advanced
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comprehensive plan and that can only be done certainly with other folks than Tramble Crull Company,
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but we think Tramble Crull Company does it the best, I'm partial, but it requires a significant
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upfront investment. So we really hope that there will be strong consideration for what we're trying
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to do and hopefully our malleability and openness to work with and incorporate the priorities
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that have been shared with us that we're able to.
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Thank you.
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Good evening.
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My name is Rory Fienzler-Split with Kim Lee Horn.
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I'm going to walk through high level a couple of key elements of the traffic impact study
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that was prepared for the proposed development.
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The traffic impact study was prepared, pursuant to IDOT and village standards.
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I want to quickly touch on some of the comments that were made earlier.
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The traffic study does take a step back.
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It looks at year 2034 traffic projections.
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It evaluates existing conditions as well as future year 2034 traffic projections.
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The 2034 traffic projections were developed using an ambient compounded growth rate of 1.5%
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per se map as well as traffic estimated for development that is planned or approved in the area.
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So that includes buildings and units that may not be constructed yet, that may not be occupied,
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but that we expect to be online by 2034, that traffic is contemplated in the traffic impact study.
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And based on the analysis, we identified a number of improvements to the area roadway network, which are highlighted on the screen before you.
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As was mentioned earlier, county line road would be connected to 143rd Street, just touched on that.
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Again, all trucks would be, all site generated trucks would be directed to the 143rd Street access point under phase one.
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In addition, to facilitate car access to the southbound right turn lane would be installed on Steiner road at the north driveway.
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At both the north and south driveways on Steiner road, the existing pavement would be restriped to provide a northbound left turn lane to facilitate inbound left turn movements for cars accessing the site.
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Similarly, the existing pavement on Steiner would be restriped to provide for southbound left turn lanes to green briar.
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Under phase two, the existing intersection of route 126 in county line road would be improved.
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That would include modifications to the south leg of the intersection to provide through movements north, again providing connectivity to 143rd.
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This also includes extension of existing storage lane on the westbound left turn movement, installation of an eastbound left turn lane,
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and traffic signal modifications for phase 2, the intersection of Route 126 and county line road would facilitate site-generated truck traffic for trucks approaching the site from the south and the west.
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Again, trucks would also have the option to use the 143rd Street West Extension access.
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The traffic impact study also contemplates the infrastructure plan defined by the village in Kendall County.
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This includes the recently completed 143rd Street West Extension and associated signal and geometric improvements at Ridge Road.
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The traffic study is also consistent with the village plans as with the...
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As mentioned earlier for the swap or jurisdictional transfer of 143rd Street to Idot, to establish a designated class to truck route to interstate 55, and then 126 from Ridge Road east through downtown will be jurisdictionally transferred to the village from Idot. This is consistent with the village's long term vision to establish 143rd Street as a truck route and Lockport Street through downtown would provide access for local
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traffic only.
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With the jurisdictional traffic and established designated truck route along 143rd Street trucks
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would no longer travel through downtown, site generated truck traffic would not travel
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through downtown.
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The traffic impacts study also contemplates the plan traffic signal at the intersection
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of 143rd in Steiner Road as well as Kendall County's plans to widen Ridge Road to a four-lane
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cross section which is included in the Long Range Transportation Plan as well as the
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county's five-year surface transportation program.
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Again, just to emphasize this point,
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the truck routing under phase one
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would direct all site-generated trucks
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to the 143rd Street West Extension only.
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This provides truck access to I-55 via the
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140th Third Street East Extension, which is underway,
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and access to I-80 via Ridge Road.
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Site-generated trucks will not be permitted on Steiner Road
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and the driveways will be designed to limit truck churning movements in addition to education and enforcement.
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Under phase two, the same applies to 143rd Street West Extension that will continue to facilitate truck traffic to and from the site in addition at the south access at the intersection of Route 126 Lockport County Line Road.
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trucks would be directed to and from the west to Ridge Road. There would be signage
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posted, no trucks, no left turn, and then trucks traveling to and from I-80 would use Ridge
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Road and Lockport Street, west of county line road only as well as 143rd Street, trucks
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traveling to and from I-55 would use 143rd Street. Again, this is consistent with the village's
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long-term vision to establish a 143rd Street and remove truck traffic through downtown.
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The traffic study, in addition to evaluating intersections, the traffic study also evaluated
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roadway segments using again the 2034 traffic projections based on this analysis.
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All roadway segments in the vicinity of the site would have access capacity to support
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the site-generated traffic as well as planned and approved development in the area.
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One exception was noted on Ridge Road South of 126.
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However, this is based on the existing geometry with the planned foreland cross-section improvement
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programmed by Kendall County.
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There would be excess capacity to support your 2034 traffic projections.
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A supplemental analysis was prepared outside the traffic impact study to compare site-generated
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traffic to that of a residential development, this was mentioned by Josh a few minutes ago.
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For purposes of this comparison, we assumed three units, three single family units per
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acre, which results in just over a thousand units.
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As shown, residential trip generation is about 54% higher in the morning peak hour and
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78% higher in the evening peak hour as compared to the proposed development.
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it. Therefore, a residential development would increase delay and cues of the study intersections
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as compared to the proposed development.
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And with that, let's turn it over to Vince.
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Just to wrap up our overview, I'd just like to hit upon some of the significant economic
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benefits that this project brings not only to the village but also to Will County as well
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as our intergovernmental partners. Question came up, we heard from one of the speakers this
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is what is the financial benefit associated with this project.
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To put it as succinctly as I can,
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this would mark the most significant financial investment in the village in its history.
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As part of our submittal,
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we had the economist firm of Groen and Groen and Associates,
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a very well-respected Chicago-based firm,
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prepare a extensive fiscal impact study,
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which was submitted to the village,
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to disclose those financial benefits to the village as well as Will County.
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Some of the key highlights include that permanent jobs upon stabilization, completion of this
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development, there's anticipated to be 3,600 jobs approximately.
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50
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47% of this employment is expected to occur in the plain field community. Why this is important? I know I said it at the last meeting, but I'm going to say it again, because it's very important. Is data coming out of Will County tells us that 72% of village residents have to leave not only the village, but also have to leave the county for employment more times than not Cook County. That's evident of the fact that although there's beautiful residential homes throughout the village, there's just not enough industrial enough commercial
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and there's not enough jobs.
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Developments like this help to move the needle.
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So those 3,600 jobs, those speak to permanent jobs.
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Throughout the pendency of development,
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which is anticipated to be five to 10 years,
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there'll be considerable construction jobs
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throughout all levels of the trades.
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Lasting up to 10 years from excavation utilities
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all the way up to the ultimately the finish work.
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In addition to the massive job creation,
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There's other substantial revenues that will be generated.
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John alluded to the one-time contribution that Tramwell Crow was making voluntarily to
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the tune of $6.4 million, which could be allocated to achieve strategic objectives
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of this board, pursuant to the potential guidelines in the annexation agreement.
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There will also be increased local spending, that's oftentimes hard to quantify, but that's
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very real. For instance, 3,600 folks working in the community on a daily basis, they're visiting
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the downtown merchants, they're shopping along 59, they're buying cars here locally, they're
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supporting all businesses in the playing field community. Equally important is when you spend
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dollars in the playing field community that comes back to the community as part of the state retailers'
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occupation tax. So certainly those additional dollars from sales tax will be realized through
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local spending. The village also has a utility tax ordinance. It applies to electric
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rates as well as gas rates. Ultimately those will come back as additional revenues
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to the village substantial. Those utility taxes coupled with the annual reoccurring property
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taxes is estimated to generate over $500,000 to the village alone just with the three utility
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tax, gas, tax, real estate property tax.
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But perhaps most importantly, this development continues to achieve the village's strategic
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objective of taking the tax burden off of the residents of the village and placing that
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more by incubating industry and commercial within the community.
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I've always been told in the world of economic development, I mean, municipalities should
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look to develop with no more than 70% residential, with 30% or more if you could get it in the
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commercial industry bracket.
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I believe that Plainfield as a result of being an absolutely wonderful place to live has
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developed with 85% residential and very little commercial industrial about 15% that lowers
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the EAV and puts the corresponding tax burden on the residents and not industry and commercial
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where it should be.
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Ultimately this concept hasn't been missed by anybody.
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The comprehensive plan consultant wrote this numerous times in the comprehensive plan,
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language to the effect that the village should seek to identify areas as industrial and
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commercial, so that they can create more of a healthy mix of the underlying equalized assess
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value to release that burden, reduce that burden on the residents of the village, and prevent
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against rising tax bills, rising tax rates.
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Certainly developments like this continue to move that needle.
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And I know I showed this exhibit at our last meeting,
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I'll show it again because I do feel that this is very important.
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So here I'm just taking, as an example, a $500,000 house in Plainfield School District,
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202 versus a $500,000 house in Naperville School District, 203.
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So very much apples to apples.
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School District 203 in Naperville has about a 30-35% tax base of commercial as well as industrial, so as a result they have a higher EAV.
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The corresponding effect is they have a reduced tax rate, whereas Plainfield School District 202 has more residential, 85% less commercial and industrial that combine tax rate for all districts approaches 7.8.
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So ultimately what happens is on a year-in-year out basis, the Plainfield resident in District 202 could expect to pay 20% more in taxes annually on apples to apples, $500,000 house, which is real dollars.
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It's over $2,000 a year that that person, that family has to pay for the same house, they can get an adjacent jurisdiction within a different school district with a higher percentage of commercial and industrial tax base.
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with regard to the overall text generation.
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Right now, the property is agricultural. It's subject to an agricultural exemption. It's under performing. It contributes very little to the surrounding area, despite the comprehensive plan designating it as an appropriate area for industrial. But if we look at what grew and grew and anticipates the full tax bill will be upon stabilization $6 million. It's John pointed out over a 10-year period that's $60 million. That's more than real dollars. So the first line
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is perhaps the most important school district 202.
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They're gonna realize on an annual basis $3.8 million.
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I would venture to say that that would be
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the biggest uptick school district 202
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has ever seen in real estate tax game in their history.
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Not to mention when they do typically see increases
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in their tax generation, it comes with offsetting students
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because more times than not,
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it's a large scale residential development.
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Plainfield Fire Protection District, 682,000 a year,
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Wheel County, 415,000,
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Village of Plainfield, Justin Textes alone,
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345,000, not even including all the other benefits.
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Community College District 525, 212,000,
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Plainfield Park District, 183,000.
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Once again, without the population generation
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or the burden library district,
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$133,000 right down the line to a grand total of $6 million,
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which is in stark contrast to what exists today.
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So right now with the 340 acres with the agricultural exemption,
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a total of $26,000 is generated from this property.
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So I wish I was up here talking of delta between $5,000 or $5,000,000
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and $6,000,000.
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And it was $1,000,000 delta.
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I'm talking about a delta of almost $6 million here
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that this property could be realized in consistency
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with the village's objective to diversify the tax base.
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This hits that nail right on the head.
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So I'm not going to believe at this point,
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I thought John did a really nice job.
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This is the one time financial contribution
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to $6.4 million to be allocated any way
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the village trustees see fit
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to meet those strategic objectives
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in excess of what the prior developers
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that have come along have been willing to do.
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and also just in closing I'd like to thank each of you trustees and the mayor for your time and
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consideration. I know we've been up here for extended periods of time so we appreciate you for
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your consideration and your patience and we also appreciate all the support we've realized throughout
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the community from the park district school district fire district township library district right
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down the line amongst many many others so we're available for questions and thank you for your time.
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Thank you. I think it's certainly, you know, it's been said before by all the members of this board that your presentation has been so thorough and to have professional reports on traffic, professional reports on tax generation.
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These are important things for us to consider that these are government organizations and businesses that you've employed that are professionals in giving us this data so we can make a good decision for Plainfield.
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So thank you for presenting all of that to us.
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I know that this is a public hearing.
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So if there's anybody from the public who hasn't spoke,
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who still wants to speak on this matter, on this matter,
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not the generalized public hearing we had earlier,
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but anybody from the public want to step up,
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this is your opportunity.
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Please step to the podium and speak in the microphone.
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Thank you.
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Was the traffic study done from end to end?
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And I don't know what you call it, 12643.
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third was it done from I-55 all the way to the warehouses?
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The traffic impact study evaluated eight intersections in close proximity to the site.
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It does not evaluate intersections immediately adjacent to I-55.
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The concept of our traffic study is to evaluate the intersections closest to the site because
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those are the intersections that are most impacted.
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as the traffic is, uh, travels throughout the roadway network, it's dispersed, and so
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intersections that are more than a mile, half mile away, generally are less
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impacted than those in the immediate vicinity. This is consistent with Ida and
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village practices. Specifically, and I made, maybe I've read it wrong, but Route 59 and 143rd Street,
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that was included. That was included. Okay. And there's no road east of there at this point. Yeah, I'm sorry, I missed it.
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Yeah, we did not evaluate the future east extension. So it went east to the existing route 59 143rd Street intersection correct. So it circled around it ended at 59 and went around to the
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I just want to say I highly disagree that it would not impact any neighborhoods where people
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are trying to get out onto the road. I already have a difficult time getting out of my subdivision
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on to 126. I can't in the morning. I can't get back in and leaving or out in the evening
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Okay, is there any other public comment?
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This is our public hearing?
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Chief, I think we can spell your name.
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Please state it for the record, though.
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Chief Pito binamo with the playing field fire district, and I'm also a resident of the village of playing field.
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So I'm here to express the fire district support for this project, not only for the what Tremel Crow contributes,
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or
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for the village, but also for the financial benefits and low impact on services to the taxing bodies.
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We too as the fire district have a vested interest in how this community develops,
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so that we can plan for our expansion of fire, EMS, and rescue services to the community as it grows.
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The fire district's main source of revenue for those that don't know to provide these services is through the collection of property taxes.
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These services are not funded or performed by the village of Plainfield.
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This is done through the Plainfield Fire Protection District.
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The fire district is questioning, though, as to what is the vision of the village board for
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future development along the 143rd Street corridor that is zoned industrial and what it's going to be?
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The area in which this development is requesting for annexation and development is zoned industrial according to the comprehensive plan as that's been stated.
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According to the village as a comprehensive plan, this is a community vision involving residents, businesses, and workers in the process of crafting the community vision for Plainfield's future.
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This was done through workshops with the village officials, stakeholders including the fire district, and community members through workshops.
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And I think as a matter of fact, this was actually approved by the Village Appointing Field and actually expanded after the fact.
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So the comprehensive plan does identify this area for industrial development.
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So I've heard a lot of a comparison between residential and industrial, and I want to express this on how this relates to the fire district.
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This project is slated to generate $682,559 a year to the fire district through the building of the construction of the seven buildings.
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The projected impact fees for the fire district are over $700,000.
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If we were to try to equate that to residential development using the 2023 tax rate for the fire district,
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That would equate to about 691 residential units that would need to be constructed.
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And that's based on, I used a conservative number, $330,000 value paying approximately $988 in property taxes to the fire district.
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Again, that's going to bring 1,750 plus new residents to the community.
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And that's going to bring 1265 vehicles using the Federal Highway Administration 1.83 cars per household number.
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to the roadways within our community.
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As far as the impacts for service for the community, in 2024, the fire districts responded to 5,677 incidents within our fire district.
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Of that, 3,052 incidents were in residential occupancies.
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In addition, a 691 residential units will have a potential increase of 3% on our overall call volume.
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If I compare this to a building that is currently on a 143rd Street industrial building,
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the Diazio Warehouse, in 2024 we responded to eight incidents at that location.
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Granted, we're proposing seven buildings here.
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If we use eight as the number for each unit, that's 56 calls, which would increase our call volume,
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potentially, by less than 1%.
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The 143rd Street extension was funded in part by some of the taxing or by the taxing bodies,
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which will provide $7.5 million over 10 years to help reimburse the village for the extension of the road.
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In 2025, this year, the Fire District will write a check to the village for $91,762.50.
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And in 10 years, the total amount of $861,546.
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We agreed to funding this roadway project with the anticipation of a return on investment with future industrial growth.
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The extension would provide.
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And to see deagio-
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We will remain in town and expand their abilities to serve the community. If you see the letter that was sent to the taxing bodies by the Village Administrator Josh Blakemore, in the letter it stated that the 143rd Street West Extension was critical in securing the construction of the Diazio Warehouse and for future industrial development. If this project isn't approved, 143rd Street will still be a recognized truck route, and traffic will be eventually
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to be rerouted from 126 to 143rd Street as identified within the Plaintfield's 143rd Street
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Court or a website.
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This area, including other surrounding neighboring communities, are a prime area for industrial
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development as Vince has stated.
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If projects like this are not approved, these companies will move to neighboring communities
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and the trucks will still use a 143rd street to gain access to truck routes in the area and access I-55
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and other truck routes, and we will receive nothing for it.
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Probably the biggest benefit to this development is the future fire station that we're proposing within the development.
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With the help of Tramocrow, we truly appreciate it because as we know land within this community to try and
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develop anything is hard to do, especially for a fire station.
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So we appreciate Ramacrow working with us to provide land and potential funding for a future fire station within the development.
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This will help to reduce response times as the village continues to expand out west.
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This will increase our response capabilities, providing additional staffing and apparatus to respond to emergencies.
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And we'll help to maintain our ISO-1 rating, which is your insurance rating for fire protection, saving homeowners and businesses money in their fire insurance premium.
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I want to thank you for allowing me the opportunity to talk, I hope you guys consider this development and approve it, because there are definite benefits for the taxing bodies along with the fire district for it, so thank you.
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Mary, do you mind if I ask a quick question?
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No, go ahead, Trustee.
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I don't know, I haven't mentioned before, but I don't mean to surprise you with questions.
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That's fine.
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There's a lot of numbers being thrown around from everybody in this, and my question is, I don't know what a new fire station is going to cost.
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Okay.
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And I know you're fully dependent on taxpayer dollars.
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So, that in what is a standard ladder truck cost?
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For more of those, I know that when we expand, you're probably two or three.
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I don't know which staff your house is that, but to build a new firehouse, we need new fire equipment.
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And what's the roundabout figure?
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I mean, that's conferred direct quote and I hope your board doesn't hold you to it.
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No, no, that's fine.
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We're actually going through this now because obviously we're planning on building additional fire stations.
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We need it as our fire district grows and it's harder.
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definitely to get around this town with truck traffic and cars and just the growth in town in general.
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A little bias as well truck driver, family, family on trucking company, father was a truck driver.
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So we wouldn't get our goods and services if it wasn't for the trucks.
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But however, a fire station is about $550 a square foot to construct.
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So typically fire stations are stations now around 12,000, the satellite stations that we would create are about 10,000 square feet.
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So roughly 5.5 million for just the fire station, a fire apparatus.
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So a fire engine right now is about $1.2 million for just a fire engine.
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That's not the equipment that goes on to the fire engine.
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And ambulance is over $400,000 right now just to give you some context.
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The cardiac monitor for the ambulance alone is $50,000 for one.
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We've got five ambulances and we have ALS fire apparatus that have paramedics on it.
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so we have a cardiac monitor on each fire engine.
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SCBA, our breathing apparatus, that's $6,000.
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To outfit one fire fire, over $6,000 for our turn-out gear.
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To hire a firefighter right now, to put a new firefighter on all in right now,
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starting is probably $130,000 to $140,000 a person.
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We, minimally staff at minimum staffing right now, we're at about 20.
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Firefighters a day out of our four fire stations at full staffing, we're at 25.
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So just it's very expensive for personnel the ladder truck that we bought two
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years ago was 1.4 million dollars that same tower ladder that ladder truck
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right now is over two million dollars for that ladder truck so things are
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continuing to get more and more expensive. You have like we run into problems here
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when we buy big equipment that there's a lead time. It's sometimes a year two
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years down the road before it's even ready. I wish it was a year. I wish it was a
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year right now lead times for fire apparatus are four years and we have had an
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ambulance on order for almost three years and it will be delivered this month so
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we have a long delay for getting apparatus so as we talk about planning for
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future stations yeah it's nice to have the land but we can build the station and
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not have the people to hire because fire service is struggling
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Meeting to find people to take jobs, nowadays, and we also have apparatus that take four years to receive. So it takes a long time to plan for this. Thank you for the education. No problem. Thank you. Thank you, Chief. Any other, any other public comment? Dr. Wood. Thank you.
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Good evening. Happy New Year. My name is Glen Wood. I'm Superintendent of the Plant Fuel School District 202. I'm representing District 202 here, but also grateful we do have some representatives from the district that are here.
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Board President, Mr. Rod Westfall, Steve Jepsen, Association of Planned Fuel Teachers, Representative, Mr. Rick Instrom.
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He's our Assistant Superintendent of Business and Operations, and Mr. Elias Clances, he's one of our board members as well.
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And so you've heard a lot tonight, and so just want to maybe mention a few things and have not been brought up.
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Obviously, the letter that's posted here and shared just highlights the importance to the taxing bodies of this development that are there.
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where, you know, in Illinois, it was touched on briefly, but local villages, you know,
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you receive money through several tax revenue streams.
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You know, property taxes, sales taxes, utility, gasoline taxes, licenses, permits, there's
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items on the agenda this evening that we don't receive revenue from, but the village does.
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All our taxing bodies, we receive money through property taxes and impact fees.
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That's it.
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And so, as we had mentioned, this tax structure explains why many villages are doing exactly what you did within your comprehensive plan, which is to come up with to reduce the tax burden and have a balanced tax burden between commercial and residential.
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As you know, our tax base is primarily residential.
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It puts a significant tax burden as Mr. Rosinova had shared.
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I will say that the slides on the taxes between 202 and
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April, and April, 203, those taxes are not all 202.
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That's all the taxing bodies added up.
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So you saw that seven point or whatever.
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That is not District 202's tax rate.
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Our tax rate has actually gone down 12 years in a row.
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I know your tax bill has gone up.
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And that's because of your home value has gone up.
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The tax rate of District 202 has gone down.
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And I know that takes a lot to take, particularly when you see this, but any community members
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would like to walk through that week and walk through that for you.
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But as you had seen, currently the taxes are 26,000 as well where you receive from the project
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as you had seen, that's all the taxing bodies, all five taxing bodies, 26,000 a year.
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If this development comes in place, you saw that it was $6 million a year for all the
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taxing bodies.
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This money would be used for capital projects.
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It would be used for day-to-day operations.
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It would be used for personnel and equipment as well.
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And even though the new development, we are hoping it's coming, this does not provide immediate
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money or immediate growth.
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We're years down the road, as you had seen that, but I will tell you, yet, in 2018, these
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taxing bodies really put together a proposal and partnership with the village that the
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taxing bodies committed over the next 10 years, $7.5 million for that road.
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So for 143rd extension, the five taxing bodies committed over 10 years, $7.5 million, District
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or 202 over the next 10 years will pay $5 million for that road that we're there.
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With not seeing any immediate financial benefit at this point, really it's in hope of moving
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forward.
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We will write a check to the village for $500,000 and the next really very quickly is a part
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of that promise.
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And really, this, you know, I think the promise of the village, the promise of the taxing
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bodies working together for that road, it wasn't just about improving traffic flow.
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The reason I think that we submitted that sign the intergovernmental agreements was really
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the promise and hope for industrial development aligned to the comprehensive plan, aligned
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to conversations that we had had moving forward.
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And we will, I do believe, and I think we all do, that the investment in that road right now has kept Diagio on
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143rd, it's kept BP chill on 143rd and DHL supply chain as well in addition to attracting businesses like Tramilcrow.
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The stark difference between the residential and commercial demands and the benefit to the taxing bodies was outlined very well by chief
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I would say, and just to add to that is, you know, if we were going to have to tie it in,
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if we were going to try to get equivalent revenue that's 6 million from a residential development, as cheap it in.
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It indicated it would really, about 600, about 700 homes is what would happen. And so to achieve
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equivalent revenue for the taxing bodies would, that would, the village would have to build
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another color farms, and you would have to build another bronch of states, about 75% of
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bronch of states. That, those amount of residents would give the taxing bodies the same amount
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of revenue but as indicated by the chief the amount of services is substantial as we go through
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that so I would say this and as you know the residential would give a significant burden to those
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groups so there's been a lot of projects throughout the years that we the taxing bodies want to
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partner together with and partner with the village some things we can do some we can't based on
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timelines based on money based on certain other goals, but we urge you to
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approve this project. We believe it will provide an additional revenue to our
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taxing bodies that will diversify the tax base. There's limited impact on our
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services and then it'll allow us to support our current facilities, support our
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schools, diversify our tax bases mentioned, and to continue to ensure the
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high quality services that all our taxing bodies provide. Thank you for your
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time. I know this is a tough decision for you. Hope you have a good 2025. Dr. Wood, I had
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one question for you and following up on that. I know that people have moved to Plainfield
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over the years over my lifetime. Always number one thing is always the quality schools and the good
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schools that Plainfield has. I do know that one particular issue you're working hard on is teacher
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retention and making sure we're competitive on a salary basis and you didn't mention it specifically
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that generally personnel, but you could confirm that this would be a great
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health towards that end in retaining quality teachers in Plainfield.
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You did.
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Well, as you know, within the village, the fast growth of village had 20 years ago,
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we built a lot of schools.
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And so now all the roots need to be repaired.
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Now all the roads need to be repaired.
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So in addition to personnel, but there's just a day-to-day operations,
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we're getting a landslide of things we need to fix
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at the same time, and then as you've seen those other developments, I mentioned
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Keller Farms, I mentioned Brock Estates, while we expect over 800 kids
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from those developments as well, and so prospectively other capital projects down
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the road, this could fund that for new buildings and such.
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Thank you, sir, thanks for being here.
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Any other public comment this evening?
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Very good, there's a motion to close public comment.
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I guess motion has been made and seconded to close the public hearing and return to the regular business meeting on favor.
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Aye.
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All opposed.
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Thank you, that motion carries.
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Ms. Gibbis, would you read 5c please?
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We're seeking board consideration of a motion to adopt the findings of fact of the Plan Commission as the findings of fact of the Board of Trustees and furthermore to direct the village attorney to prepare the necessary ordinances for approval of the requested annexation agreement.
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and annexation, nap amendment, and special use for plan development for the project known as TCC Plane Field.
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So, almost a second.
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Motions been made, and seconded, are there any comments or questions on the item?
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I do, I just want to, for points of clarity, this is not an approval tonight for the project.
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It's just directing the attorney, the bill of attorney, to draft up the necessary ordinances.
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And this, looking at this, it's a letter and it's all condensed into one paragraph.
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Now traditionally, I think what I'm assuming is going to happen, he's going to draft
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the ordinances if this passes tonight and it'll be outlined as one, the annexation agreement.
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There'll be a separate vote on that, the map amendment, a separate vote on that, especially
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use a separate vote on that, all in one under one topic.
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Now, I for one want to see what's in there, and I'm hoping that if this does pass it,
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that the $6.5 million that they are promising that will be in the annexation agreement will
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be properly outlined because a lot of times what happens is yes, these things come through
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and we learn this with Diagio.
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It was 300,000 at the time that we secured for those at least some trees along the pathway
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and for those two neighborhoods, it was small by today's standards, but at the time, we had
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never done that before. And that's kind of what started this. And now, as stated earlier in the
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presentation, I believe it was $0.75 a square foot now. It's up to, I think, $1.28 a square foot that
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this company is looking to contribute. I would like to see if this passes, at least from my perspective,
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I want to see it now.
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I don't know exactly how this will be spent or to narrow it down, rather than just a vague, oh, we'll move money from column B. And then the whole site gets the whole premise of this $6.5 million is lost within two years. And a new board comes, this is, well, you know what? Yeah, that board passed it, but, you know, at times they're different now. So we need this project. We're going to put it over this streetlight over here. I'd like it to be specific as specific can be. I understand there needs to be wiggle room because times do change.
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but I think if this passes, I just ask that it be very, very specific.
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And then the public can look at all of the ordinances that are coming up to,
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they may say, yeah, we like the annexation, but now we don't like the site plan.
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Or we like the site plan, but we don't really like the annexation because we want it to be on incorporated land.
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So I think it needs to be thorough, and to be clear, it's not a vote to approve this project tonight.
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It's just to have them draft the ordinances.
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So everybody can read them, it'll be out there.
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Now, look, they come out on Thursday.
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You have a short window to read this big packet.
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He's going to draft.
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So the second question is to when, if this passes,
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when would you have this done a what projected meeting
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would this come up in so the public can be aware to say,
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OK, we know that Thursday before the Monday,
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this is going to come out.
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At least give the public some time to digest it
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to read through it.
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You may like what you see.
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You may not.
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And then you can come back at the next meeting whenever
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this is and say, hey, look, we like this.
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we don't like this. You know what, part of this project was good. Maybe it changed my mind.
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Maybe Mr. Vogel is an excellent draft here, and the negative people here will be like, well,
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it's okay, he did a good job. Maybe they won't, but I just think everybody should be informed.
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And oftentimes projects are found out after they've already been voted on, right?
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So the Thursday before at 5 p.m., let's give this, we'll put out the agenda. It's like that every week.
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Every week we have a meeting, and that is what's coming up the next Monday. So you have a few days to
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read and digest. So if you have the date, if you have any idea, I'm sure you've discussed
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with them what their timeline looks like and I don't know how long it's going to take
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Mr. Vogel to do so.
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Yeah, so to answer your first question, yes, procedurally tonight is not the final vote.
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There will be another set of ordinances as you correctly outline. There would be at least
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three specific, the annexation agreement, annexation itself, zoning upon annexation, and then
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whatever the special use that's required as part of it that would all be voted on individually
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as part of a future board agenda. As to the timing, we have had discussions with
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Tramble Crow on that. Even the numbers you see tonight there are being baked in as kind of
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the meat and potatoes of the annexation agreement because to your point, we do want to call out
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specifically where these funds will go or how those funds may be used. As does Tramble as well,
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We've talked about this a bit.
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There can be some flexibility built in, but this is something we've talked with Josh and his team about, right?
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They have to answer to the people that pay for these projects who would like to know where their funds are going as well.
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We will discuss with them what the timing of it will be.
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We would do not have a meeting two weeks from tonight.
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Our regularly scheduled board meeting in light of the holiday.
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So we may have a special meeting, one of the two January workshops, or potentially the first February board meeting.
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So I don't know. I'll work with them. The staff will have to work with them a bit. I don't know exactly what their thoughts are.
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We're getting close to having all the details ironed out of what we need to on the annexation agreement.
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So we they have timelines as well from their their seller. So we want to be respectful of that. But I would anticipate.
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probably a special in January or one of the February meetings and looking at
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at least at a head nod that that looks agreeable to them so they can go on the
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website go to the village playing field click the government village board go
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down to agendas and you'll see all of the agendas leave you publishing the
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Thursday before and you'll be able to pull it up so check on Thursdays at 5 p.m.
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yeah and it just to add to administer like more is a outline regarding the
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schedule, just to provide specific dates, if we're to have a special meeting as part of our community, the whole workshop on January 27th, the agenda would come out on January 22nd for looking to circle dates, or if it's the next regularly scheduled meeting of the bill's board on February 3rd of the agenda would come out to Thursday prior January 30th.
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So those will be two dates to circle to check the bill's website.
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You're always welcome to contact the planning department.
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We could fill you in on our understanding of the schedule as well.
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Any other comments or questions?
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I've got three pages of notes.
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So I want to try to get through this as quickly as possible.
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This one is a bit hard to digest.
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A lot of strong beliefs across the room and across the community
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of people reaching out saying I'm not coming
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to a board meeting to sit there for hours on end the night before school starts.
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So apologies to a lot of people who I've seen left the room and people who every...
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We've got to get up and go to work and the kids are going back. So in regards to Tramwell Crow, fantastic presentation, as always. You're a top group. I expect nothing less. The business partners that you have involved that are from the Calb project. I drive past that almost every weekend to go up to the lake. There's not a single residential home around that.
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If you pull that screen back up, it's nothing but farm field around it.
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I look to my left every time along I 88 and I see all the warehouses on a state single subdivision home.
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So that is something that is impressive as it is.
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It doesn't resonate with playing field for me.
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So your attorney, I have very few favorite attorneys that come before this board.
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Trust me on that.
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You're one of my favorite because you are extremely candid, transparent, honest,
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and you communicate extremely well with our administrator.
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And I appreciate that.
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Your group overall tonight in presentation, top notch,
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wouldn't expect anything less.
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So this isn't personal regarding your project,
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your proposal, what you have, and you know that.
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You've already talked to Blake Moore, I'm aware.
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And you know where I stand, I've run into you before.
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So this is not something I've been in favor of.
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The traffic implications of this project are still uncertain.
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As fantastic and highly regarded as Kimmy Horn is, with I-55 and 143rd Connect, we have
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no clue what that's going to look like when it starts coming into town.
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So to say we can't go past about a mile out from the project site, I don't know when
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your 27 minute commutes to get from 127th down to 55 is going to look like and everything
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that happens on the east side of this town is impacting the west and everything that
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happens on the west side of this town is impacting the east.
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There's three industrial buildings on 100 third that remain incomplete and they're not
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yet operational.
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They're not yet.
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We don't have the revenue generated from that.
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So the traffic pattern is coming in and out of that.
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The traffic patterns we have are projections usually based upon who we think the end user might be in the number of parking stalls, but we don't know what the rollways are going to look like.
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And I remember this, it a phone called the District 202 out of 680 homes in our
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neighborhood and picked up. So they had to redo the bus route. What does that
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tell me? Out of 680 homes, either I'm a crappy bonus parent and put my get on
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the bus or that means parents are involved and they want to get their kids to
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school themselves or they have the financial means to be home, either in a remote
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role or not working outside of the home to get their kids to school.
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That means that's that more willing cars on the road every single day.
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That's the community we're in in Plainfield by choice.
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The industrial park that is being proposed is larger, substantially larger than the industrial zoning project.
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that's been ongoing on 135th Street that impacts the Lakeland's neighborhood and a local elementary school.
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Notably, the village of Plainfield, the village of Bowlingbrook and the school district opposed that project in writing
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and showing up to the Will County District zoning meeting I myself went along with Trustee Benucci saying that we were opposed to the industrial zoning
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that we were concerned over the change in industrial,
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what that use could bring and the truck traffic near those residential homes,
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and what the end user of an industrial zoning could bring.
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Specifically for that neighborhood, blasting.
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In consistency is the part that I struggle with.
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I have residents in Liberty Grove, Dayfield, and newer subdivisions along 126
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This down throughout the whole community that are asking why Lincoln Elementary along 143rd that the kids are going to be crossing is not as important as that neighborhoods.
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Why say no to industrial there but not to these neighborhoods.
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Plainfield South is adjacent, directly adjacent on Ridge Road.
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These trucks will be routed along Ridge Road.
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that is a school of several thousand kids that will be impacted of kids that don't
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know how to drive was just be honest about it. They've got a year or two under
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their belt at best coming out of there or they're riding with friends and cars.
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And getting on a ridge road, and these semis will be going down those streets. Even if we sat here and said, yep, I'm going to say 50 bucks a year on my property tax bill. Let's just say it happened. What's the adverse burden? What's the yin to the yang? What do I have to sacrifice to save that 50 bucks? Maybe it's 500. I don't know. Let's get creative here and say it's going to be huge. What's the burden? Because I'm talking to parents who are
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saying it's already a nightmare because we use one bus service to get to three different
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schools in the morning. I already talked to parents that tell me that they can't get from
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one side of the town to the other. It's residents who keep showing up every Monday night or
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saying they can't even turn out of their neighborhood, but that intersection is not included
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in this traffic study. When 55 unloads onto the new 143rd, it will dramatically change the
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dynamics of this community. We don't know those impacts yet.
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But the sheer scale of the development, 5 million square feet, it's incompatible with
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the character and the needs of the surrounding neighborhoods.
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Take a look at that impressive project along I-88.
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There's no neighborhoods.
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I drive past it.
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There's a cute little farmhouse and he's got a little RV sitting out there.
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It's on the right side of the road, not the left.
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When Lockley Park was built, and I may be incorrect with this, but it's Lockley or Green
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Breyer, shame on me in real estate, but I confuse this you all the time.
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The village required the builder to disclose that 143rd was set to be a new major roadway
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and a designated truck route.
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That was a conversation between the village and the developer.
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So when you sign on the dotted line, you're going to go buy this brand new house.
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They were supposed to give you a sheet, tell you something in the disclosure that that's
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a major truck route.
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Did the village notify Greenbrier, though, because that's the one I think that came
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in second. And I could be wrong about that, but 400 acres at the time was not approved
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when Greenbrayer was approved. 400 acres was not approved in the comprehensive plan until
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October of 2024. We didn't have this much industrial in our comprehensive plan whatsoever.
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The industrial development was along 143rd. It didn't come out this far west towards 126.
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So those homeowners may have never known what was going to be going in across the street.
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So I wish that we had had more transparency in regards to the process of those homeowners,
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because some of them truly may not have known.
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The comp plan was not changed adding industrial of over 400 additional acres until October of 2024.
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And on top of that an extra 80 acres was changed on the spot in this boardroom on the hard corner of 126 in Steiner at the request of the
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the landowner, rightfully so that property was going to be surrounded by industrial.
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They wish to be designated industrial as well.
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Hard corners industrial, usually never tend to flow great.
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We usually wanted to see them reserved for commercial.
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On a whim that night, the board made the decision to go ahead and wrap it in.
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When it comes to 143rd, I do take full accountability and responsibility for
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approving the 143rd truck route and what its intentions were as a resident of Liberty Grove trust me.
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Those were some very hard conversations.
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The intention was to alleviate the congestion.
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We had talked about the metrics to take 12 minutes off of each person's commute on the
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directions and the downtown area coming off of 126 and 55 area.
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It was introduced a nominal tax diversification that we were missing and to retain our number
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one private employer.
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I appreciate the fire departments and other taxing bodies assistance with ensuring 143 get
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completed to achieve these goals.
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but there are still additional buildings that haven't even had their doors open, their walls aren't even up.
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So if they're not even finished, we're not even generating the tax revenue off of them.
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No board members that I know that set on the board at that time were looking to have this type of impact of industrial in this community.
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But Nuchi and Wajewski, we had really hard conversations, really late night, 11 p.m.
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being yelled at and then going to our cars wondering what the heck doing was this
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the right thing to do.
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Prior to the conversation saying, my heart hurts to do this, I got neighbors screaming
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at me about kid safety and trucks.
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We've already hurt two neighborhoods enough.
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Now we're doing it to at least four on the west end.
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We took the verbal abuse, some of it was some pretty disgusting hate mail, it is what it is it's part of the job and I don't disrespect anybody in this room who disagrees with me this evening.
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You're representing your taxing bodies and doing what you think is best as well. It's a hard seat to be in and I appreciate it.
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We've been lectured though and we've been preached that and we've been degraded that we don't understand the market.
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Some of us appear who are opposed to this and we must
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Strike when the iron is hot. Seafried made promises that they couldn't deliver. I warned this board and what they came back said was they couldn't finish financing and funding their building. They built a spec, they wholesaled it out. We had no control over who that end user was going to be. Now we have no control over who these seven end users will be. You saw the list of corporations up there. Amazon's on that list.
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And I have no idea or doubt that there's not a big corporate, big box player that's chomping
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at the bit for this.
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What that does to 143rd to put possibly a thousand to 2,000 more semis on it is going
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to push the residential traffic onto 126 into your downtown area, down Renwick, down Cate
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and Farm, which isn't part of our area, but I know everybody out that West comes down our
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roads to hit to 55 because they don't have an easy access, 135th is going to be
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hit hard. Ridge roads are going to become a nightmare and your 127th area is
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going to get flagged too. Where the trucks are the cars will avoid. So your side
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roads are going to become your main roads. We don't have the full impact of what
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this is going to do. The community between the trucks, the noise, the light
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pollution, and the potential for 24-7 operations that will fundamentally at odds
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going to be completely opposite of what residential living is like on two lane roads.
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Again, not to Cal, but I 88.
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Plainfield and all taxing bodies have yet to receive the full scope of revenue from the buildings that aren't even complete.
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Yet taxing bodies are knocking on the doors with their hands out.
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I don't blame you.
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We spent years saving for the necessary funding through very rough cyclic processes of economic ups and downs.
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We got to $9 million in capital in order to prove how fiscally responsible we were to get millions of dollars in grants to make a hundred and forty-third happen.
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With this project and to turn around and flood a hundred and forty-third with a thousand to two thousand more semis,
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you're making a promise to every plaintful resident here tonight that the traffic will get worse before it ever gets better.
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If that's your plan to prove how bad you can make it in order to get the 80 million needed for the real grade separation of a hundred and forty-third to get an overpass, so you actually get it done, pay your other right path, but I can't support it.
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Those east of town in regards to the Lakelands area and other neighborhoods, 135th residential traffic will get increasingly worse.
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How do you jump on to 55? 143rd is now overburdened, especially with the lovely rail road that you just can't seem to ever get around when you're just trying to get up to the store, but now it's your main ferro 3 to get to 55.
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You're worried about the east industrial projects, but what happens when the west will always fall to the east?
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I come from truck driver families too and I don't know a single truck driver that has
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a spouse as an over-the-road truck driver and that's what we're talking about usually
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with these warehouses.
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Somebody over the road making a good 90 to 120,000 a year, who's at home?
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You don't have two truck drivers in the household, it's extremely rare.
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I don't know any personally myself.
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Plainfield and the village revenue has to make the majority of all police, water, sewer, and roadway infrastructures work with just 5.6 cents on the dollar, not 12% not 67% just a little over a nickel and there's $150 million in four upcoming roadway projects that we need to do 80 million alone in 143rd for the railroad grade separation if we get stuck with the bypass project for Lockport Street stop those semis
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from wrecking the downtown area,
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that Bowling, Brook, and Romeo,
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they'll want to shove at us.
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And then you've got to deal with 135th,
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which is deemed the most failing intersection
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in our community.
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And then you've got to do another 119th improvement.
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That's $150 million, we got to find.
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So I understand and say, hey, go find the money
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and this sounds advantageous.
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But again, what burden, what sacrifice
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do we make in our town in order to get to that?
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We are at political odds with the feds.
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It is completely shifted.
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Illinois and Plainfield received a ton of federal grants.
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I've had the conversation with staff on multiple levels that we will become the red-headed
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stepchild for infrastructure funding period.
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Between the states and the feds not getting along, I don't expect them to see our name
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anytime soon as favorable between Illinois and the feds.
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The adverse effects will ripple beyond the immediate area, affecting traffic flow safety and the quality of life for families and
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neighboring communities. Ridge Road is not equipped to handle the anticipated increase in industrial traffic, and the long-term
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The strain on infrastructure will likely necessitate costly upgrades funded by taxpayers. So what you say I'm getting and savings, I'm just whipping back out $354,000 off of seven industrial buildings. What does that even pay for? I mean, phase one engineering for a traffic light is half a million dollars. So $354,000, what am I supposed to do on the village level? And I got to somehow fund traffic lights and come up with the $150,000.
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We should not rush into decisions that will fundamentally alter the character of a community
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and compromise the safety, health, and environmental integrity of our town.
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The Greenbelt Project will become a laughing joke.
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Let's advertise that families and seniors can come walk and ride your bikes and stroll through
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the Greenbelt as you get a picturesque view of all the long, large concrete cast buildings
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that all the semis keep backing up to.
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So enjoy your cycling as you're in between industrial concrete buildings and you hear B, B, B, B, B. That's your Greenbelt project.
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Don't get me started on the trail project that's supposed to go from Route 34 that's been in the multiple camps.
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Okay, not.
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That would be, nobody's gonna want to be calling along.
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Some of the same residents who stood in this room in November of 2023,
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when Wall and Woods residents begged that the village not approve about 150 apartments
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and commercial space because they were worried about low-income runners, $1,600 a month
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for a 600 square foot bedroom studio were worried about traffic.
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yet some of those same residents stand a profit from this development as land owners of the farm field I don't see anybody up here with tears tonight over this and concerns about traffic. I don't blame you for wanting to profit off of your land but you don't get to have one and have the other.
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Plain fill needs to stop listening to petty sales pitches and trendy and vibing productions mass as campaign sales pitches.
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Your property taxes are not going to get lower, they are not going to maintain.
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Everybody here tonight has told you they have their hand out because they need work to be done.
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They have projects to do.
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There is a substantial amount of growth that this community hit 20 years ago.
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And if we approve annexation agreements like we did 20 years ago that we hold on
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industrial, what if they don't build, we're stuck with it, just like we were with all this residential development.
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Plainfield needs to be smart, needs to balance the growth and
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then the 20 year annexation agreements.
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Plainfield needs to preserve what makes Plainfield and it's surrounding areas a desirable place to live, work, raise your families.
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Five million square feet of industrial is not what I know Plainfield wants.
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I haven't talked to a single person that says this is a fantastic idea unless they stand
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and have a financial benefit to it.
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Residents didn't want the Diazio building, residents didn't want GP Transco, which wasn't
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even in our own community, they had the news crews here.
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They didn't want the roadway, and we've done enough damage for the better good.
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So I generally believe that that is not the best playing field, that is not the future
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plan failed and if you think it is, I think you're fooling yourself.
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We cannot say here saying that what has been accomplished is not enough.
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We need to finish what we started, we need to be smart with our tax dollars, we need to put our families first.
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Any other comments or questions?
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Ms. Gibb has called the question.
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The motion was made and seconded to direct the bill to turning to prepare the necessary ordinances.
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Trustee Ruin?
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Yes.
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Thank you and following our usual policy, all of those who don't have any other thing to listen to here tonight.
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If you want to go ahead and go home, it's a late night. We're fine with that. We're not insulted.
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So thanks everyone for being here.
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We will move on to item number six. Ms. Gibbish, want to read out 6A?
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Next item on the agenda is video gaming licenses. We're seeking for consideration of a motion to approve ordinance number 30702.
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Amending chapter 4, article 15, section 4-525A. Increasing the number of class A1 video gaming licenses to 1.
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For black dog vinyl cafe located at 16208 South profile 59, suite 112.
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I'll move second motion's been made and seconded are there any comments or questions on this item?
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Hearing none I'll proceed with the role trusty ruin. Yes, trust with Jawsky. No, trusty Benucci. Yes, trust
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Trustee Calcannis. No. Trustee Kiefer. Yes. Trustee Larson. Mayor Argadalis. Yes.
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That motion carries 403. Please continue on 6B. We're seeking board consideration of a motion to approve ordinance number 30703.
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Mending chapter 4, article 15, section 4, dash 5258, increasing the number of class M, video gaming licenses to 1, for GL club billiards and bar located at 12337, south route 59, unit 107,
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Seven.
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Some move.
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Seconded.
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Motion's been made and seconded.
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Are there any comments or questions on this item?
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Hearing none, I'll proceed with the role.
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Trustee Ruin.
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Yes.
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Trustee Wajowski.
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No.
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Trustee Benucci.
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Yes.
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Trustee Kalkanis.
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Trustee Kiefer.
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Yes.
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Trustee Larson.
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No.
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Mayor Agadellis.
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Yes.
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Motion carries.
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Thank you.
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Before we go on to the next item, I'd like to take a five minute break.
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and then we'll come back and finish the meeting here tonight.
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Thank you.
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Do you have a report?
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One thing I actually, and I did have it on my nose to talk about this anyway,
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I know Ms. Quinn had brought it up.
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The quarry in unincorporated Will County next to Bolinburg has not been nixed, so just clarify that.
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It actually did receive a favorable recommendation from the Will County Planning Commission
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And by a vote of three to two and it will go now to the full Wilk County Board.
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I believe on January 16th, we had a meeting with Bowling Brook this morning on a separate
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matter.
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So I was talking with their administrator about it a bit as well.
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I know they were a little disappointed in the plan commission vote or the planning committee
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vote.
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And encouraged as I would do the same contact, contact county board members, particularly
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those in our district to discuss that as well as I mentioned no meeting on
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January 20th next week our formal public budget process will begin I believe
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we start with water and sewer next week so not to issue a spoiler there but that's
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where we will begin next week we have a lot to talk about in terms of water and
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sewer improvements for the air and plants for the air and just the overall
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budget for the air so we're looking forward to starting that it's all I have
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I'm thank you management services report nor part tonight. Thanks engineers report. No report planning department report
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No report building department report
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Ditto
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No report did you warm up yet mr. Spires? I am finally warmed up after that exciting two hours
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All right public works mr. Three-way you have some things to say tonight
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Thank you mayor and good evening board. We have actually three items underneath the public works report tonight
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and they are related to two projects that are in the village's adopted transportation plan.
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The first two items are related to the 127th Street and Plainfield, Naperville Road intersection
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improvement.
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This project's been going through engineering for a number of years now.
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We're actually on the January 17th eye dot letting, so at that point, eye dot will open the
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bids on behalf of the village and we will know who the low bid contractor is at that point.
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To facilitate that work, Ida does require an agreement with them essentially establishing the parameters of the contract and how the village will be paying for their share of the project.
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The overall project costs is around $4.8 million with $2.5 million and federal funds being already secured for the project.
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In addition to the $2.5 million in federal funds, we also have an IGA with Bowling Brook and Will County to fund their legs of the intersection.
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The north leg is actually under the jurisdiction of Will County and the east leg is under the jurisdiction of Bowling Brook.
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So of that $4.8 million is significant.
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A significant portion of that cost is being paid by either the federal government or Bowling Brook and Will County.
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So with that, if there are any questions, the first item is related, like I said, to the
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agreement with I'd add, and I can answer questions on the second item.
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I have a question, Mr. Threewitt.
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Any updates on timing of both when you anticipate it could start and how long the project would,
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the duration would be.
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I know a lot of residents ask that question, you know, because they're thinking about their
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commute as well through that area.
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So I'll start with the timing of when the project would begin, with a January 17
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flooding with IDOT. Typically they have 60 days to award the contract and from
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what we've been seeing lately with them, they take a good part of that 60
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days. So essentially two months after that January
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17th date, the contractor would have a notice to proceed with that. They would look for all the utilities to be cleared before they start work and actually administer your Blake Word mentioned. We had a meeting with Bowling for to talk about some of the utility relocations on their legs. Realistically, we anticipate the project starting around May 1st and lasting all the way through the 2025 construction season. So completed in 25, though. That would be the goal. Most likely. Yeah.
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Got you. No guarantees over. All right, thank you.
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Are there any other questions for Mr. Threewood on this particular item? Ms. Gibbis?
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We're seeking board consideration of a motion to authorize the village president to execute
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the local public agency agreement for federal participation, BLR05310C, and approved corresponding
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resolution number 1855 as to utilize the federal funds along with the local funds for the
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127th Street, slash Plain Field Maple Road Intersection.
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So moved.
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Second.
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That motion's been made and seconded.
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Trustee Brueyne?
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Yes.
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Trustee Wachowski?
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Yes.
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Trustee Kenucin?
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Yes.
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Trustee Kielkannis?
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Yes.
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Trustee Kiefer?
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Yes.
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Trustee Larson?
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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That motion carries.
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Mr. Threwett, please proceed.
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Thank you.
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The next item is also related to the same project, 127th Street and Plain Field Maple Road Intersection
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For the construction, we do typically hire a consultant to oversee what we refer to as
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phase three portion of the project, construction oversight.
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Staff did put out a request for qualifications through our quality based selection process
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and did rank the firms that did submit to the village based on the ranking criteria.
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Trans systems was viewed as the most qualified consultant by village staff.
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and then we did, after that we didn't negotiate with them on scope and fee for the project and with that we would be looking for the board's concurrence on executing a contract with trans systems for the phase three engineering.
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Mr. Threewood, even though I dot has a role in this, they didn't have a role in this aspect of the project. That was solely our call.
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That is correct.
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Okay, any other questions from Mr. Threewood?
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I will add, they don't have a say in the selection process, but the engineering agreement that is used is a standard I dot engineering agreement, but they did not have a say in the selection.
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So yeah, I would take that to believe that or take that to mean that they had to kind of be up to speed for I dot standards and sign that I dot contract with the term that are typically in there, but we they did I dot did not select we selected that's how I read your report.
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Thank you.
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Any other questions from Mr. Threewood on this side, Ms. Gavis?
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We're seeking for consideration of a motion to approve the engineering services agreement with transistants and amount not to exceed $381,928 and to authorize the President to execute the local public agency and the engineering services agreement for the 127th Street Slash Plainfield Neighborhood Road intersection project.
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Yes.
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Almost.
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Second.
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Motion's been made.
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And seconded.
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Trustee Boehme.
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Yes.
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Trustee Zhaozke.
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Yes.
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Trustee Boehme.
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Yes.
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Trustee Kalkanis.
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Trustee Kiefer.
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Yes.
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Trustee Larson.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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And finishing things off here in the public works report.
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So I mentioned that the two projects are both in our transportation plan.
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This next project here is actually pedestrian improvement project.
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It's in the Benson-Central Elementary in St. Mary School when we did go through the transportation plan.
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One of the top priority projects for pedestrian improvements was the addition of sidewalks in this area.
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With that staff did move forward with a submittal for the Safe Routes to School program.
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As part of that submittal, the board did pass a resolution that if the village did get selected to receive funds
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through this program that the village would contribute their proportionate share with
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that. We did receive that grant. I think it was a $250,000 grant. So we are looking to
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advance the engineering work for this project. Since Safe Rouser School is a federal program,
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it does require engineering through the I-DOT, I-DOT engineering phase one phase two process.
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So we'd be looking to go through the process within this budget season and then the funding for the sidewalk through the federal funding program wouldn't be available until potentially 20-26 to do the construction so the actual construction funding you'll see in future budget presentations.
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Any questions from Mr. Threewood on this item?
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Ms. Gilles?
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We're seeking board consideration of a motion to authorize
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the bill to President Tex.
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Mr. Kuth, engineering services agreement with Baxman-Wubin, for Central Elementary and St. Mary-Mackelet Parish School, sidewalks, phase one, engineering services, and mountain autopsy at $108,000.
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So moved. Motion's been made, and seconded. Trustee Buehne? Yes. Trustee Towsky? Yes. Trustee Benucci? Yes. Trustee Kale-Kannis? Yes. Trustee Kiefer? Yes. Trustee Larson? Yes. Thank you, that motion carries. Thank you. Mr. Threewitt, Mr. Chief Miller, you're next up. Yes, thank you.
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Thank you, I just have a couple of quick things here, vehicle donations.
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First off, I have, after conferring with our fleet manager, we have, we're looking to donate two surplus and
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inoperable vehicles to the Plainfield Fire Protection District for training purposes.
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Are there any questions for the chief on this item?
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Ms. Gibbis?
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We're seeking board consideration of motion to approve ordinance number 30704, authorizing the donation of two surplus vehicles to the Plainfield Fire Protection District.
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Some move.
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Second.
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Motion's been made.
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And seconded.
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Trustee Brewing.
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Yes.
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Trustee Wajowski.
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Trustee Benuchin.
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Yes.
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Trustee Kielcannis.
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Yes.
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Trustee Kiefer.
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Yes.
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Trustee Larson.
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Yes.
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Thank you there, motion carries.
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Chief.
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Next is, we are looking to donate a 25-year-old vehicle.
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It's a 2004 transit van to the Franklin County Sheriff's Office.
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there's no longer a purposeful use for the van and like I said it's about 25
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years old we did have it listed at one time for several months with no
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offers for it and with the amount of equipment in it when I was purchased it
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was purchased for a mass arrest situation and I was told that literally
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hasn't been used in probably 20 years. Any questions for the chief? Ms. Gibbous?
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We're seeking for consideration of a motion to approve ordinance number 30705 authorizing the donation of a
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2004 van to the Franklin County Illinois Sheriff's Department
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Target motions been made and seconded trustee ruin. Yes, trustee, which I was keen. Yes, trustee Benucci. Yes, trustee kill canis
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Trustee keeper. Yes, trustee Larson. Yes. Thank you. That motion carries
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Mr. Vogel. Thank you, Mr. Chief Mr. Vogel
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Thank you a few reminders plan commission tomorrow evening is cancelled coffee with the mayor is 9 a.m. January 8th this Wednesday at the village hall here
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January 9th historic preservation commission is cancelled January 13th is our next meeting of this board. It's our committee the whole workshop
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January 20th the offices are closed remark with their king day and February 3rd is our next regularly scheduled village business meeting at 7 p.m. Here is their emotion to adjourn
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Some of second motion's been made in seconded to adjourn all in favor aye all opposed thank you that motion can thank y'all