[0:03] No, it's a

[1:43] » Will you walk with me

[1:46] on the street? Turn

[2:46] » Okay, I'll go ahead and call tonight's R&R budget hearing

[2:49] um meeting for Tuesday, September 8, 2026 together

[2:54] uh >> [clears throat]

[2:55] » to order and remind everybody the reason that we're here, of course, is the R&R

[3:00] hearing and budget hearing for 2027's budget.

[3:05] Um With that, I will transition right away

[3:10] to opening the hearing for R&R uh

[3:15] the revenue neutral rate

[3:19] which currently the revenue neutral rate is 84.005

[3:23] mills the uh

[3:28] rate before everybody is 87.284 mills

[3:34] um down from last year's, which was 88.163

[3:38] mills. So, with that being open, I'll remind

[3:43] everybody if anybody would like to speak in regarding or to the R&R, you do have,

[3:49] since this This a hearing, 5 minutes to address the council on anything. I would

[3:54] ask that you if you would like to speak regarding the revenue neutral rate,

[4:00] please kind of stand and that way I know who's wanting to do that. And when you

[4:04] come up, please state your name, address,

[4:07] and then I will start that timer for you in that. So,

[4:12] R&R hearing is open. Do we have anyone who wishes to speak regarding the

[4:18] revenue neutral rate? If you'd like to

[4:24] » Hello. >> Come to the podium, state your name and

[4:27] address for the record, please.

[4:32] » Um my name is Ashley Mitchell. And I am here actually, I don't know if

[4:37] it's Can you state your address too, please? Oh, yeah. Um 206 East 13th here

[4:42] in Pleasanton. Um I don't really know if I'm against

[4:46] the revenue neutral or for it. All I know is that I am a citizen and my taxes

[4:52] have tripled in the last 4 years. And um

[4:57] it's time for it to stop. We're not seeing any benefits.

[5:03] I just think that it's just time for it to stop for a while. Give us a break.

[5:07] I know elderly people that can't even be here to speak for themselves. They can't

[5:13] can't pay their taxes. They're they're going to lose

[5:17] their homes. Pleasanton is losing what we were built

[5:21] off of. Who we know.

[5:25] Because the taxes are getting so high that people cannot afford to live here.

[5:30] Um I think that's super important for everybody to remember. I don't just come

[5:34] and talk anytime. I do voice my opinion often,

[5:38] but I don't come and speak often. And I think that people have

[5:44] done something with money in the past to where whether it's on purpose or not on

[5:50] purpose, we don't know. We just are here and we get the end. It's either the good

[5:56] end or the bad end. And lately we've been getting a pretty bad end.

[6:00] And it's not fair to us, the people of Pleasanton that truly do

[6:05] care. So, I'm just asking you guys to not

[6:10] heighten these taxes because we need to live here.

[6:15] I thought I was going to live here my entire life, but if these taxes keep

[6:19] going up like this, I'm going to move. And I know for a fact I'm not the only

[6:24] one. I mean, we need people in Pleasanton.

[6:28] You guys want us to pay our taxes, you want the taxpayers to pay, you have to

[6:32] have people. You're going to lose people

[6:35] if this keeps happening. And that's all I really wanted to say

[6:39] today. So, thank you.

[6:42] » Thank you.

[6:51] » You ready?

[7:01] » Hi. My name is Robert Woody. I live

[7:06] at um 601 East Park Street. I never really

[7:09] know what to do with my hat, so I'm going to put it right there.

[7:12] Uh I understand that this goes out on YouTube and uh whoever

[7:19] cares to listen to it can listen to it. So, before I get started, there's

[7:22] something that I want to say. Hi, Mom.

[7:28] Like the um speaker before me, and then I'm coming

[7:31] before you as citizen of the of Pleasanton, your your

[7:35] constituent, a taxpayer, uh

[7:40] someone who has always >> [sighs]

[7:41] » worked on the philosophy that each one of you who are sitting on this

[7:46] council here because you wanted to be. Mr. Mayor, you're there where you're at

[7:50] because you wanted to be. Um, and I'm sure you had a vision of what

[7:54] you would like to accomplish. Uh, but the issue tonight is property

[7:59] tax and because of the limited time, I just

[8:02] wanted to come off right off the bat and say I cannot support

[8:07] an increase in the revenue for it. Um,

[8:12] the trend of property taxes

[8:16] uh, here in Linn County has been

[8:20] upward upward

[8:24] upward several thousand dollars, um, that some of us pay,

[8:30] um, to the county.

[8:32] Um, and I I I I say this with with some

[8:36] trepidation because well, I don't really understand

[8:42] uh, the uh,

[8:44] the the things that you all face when trying to put together a budget and and

[8:48] running the city and all the things you have to do with the resources you have

[8:54] to live with. I acknowledge that that is a serious

[8:58] problem for you. But, the trend line we see on property

[9:03] taxes in our in our state and in our county

[9:07] is just going up and up and up and one of these days, whether it's this year or

[9:11] next year or the year after, you're going to get to the point where

[9:16] you're just going to be out of other people's money.

[9:18] People are either not going to be able to

[9:22] or they just won't do it. Um,

[9:26] we'll become like what my future probably holds for me,

[9:31] a future, um, property tax refugee. Um, if I can live in a state that is

[9:39] going to cost me two or three thousand dollars less a year, a retired person,

[9:43] my wife is sick, we're going to go where it's easier to

[9:48] live. So, um

[9:52] that is an issue. And you know, it's kind of funny in my I did some research

[9:55] for Mine Creek and [laughter] I ran across a uh an article in the in the

[10:00] Pleasant Observer in 1968 that said property taxes in Kansas are too high.

[10:07] That was a long time ago. And then, you know, so we're still

[10:10] talking about the same thing. Um

[10:15] I um understand uh the way that the system

[10:19] works here in Kansas, and I could have it wrong,

[10:22] that while the state excess established the the the uh assessment rate,

[10:30] uh it's up to the county to do the assessment, and then it's up to local

[10:36] governments or anyone who is going to receive property tax money to

[10:42] get together, work out a budget, and then try to figure out how much they're

[10:46] going to need the next year. Citizens

[10:50] in Linn County, myself, folks in this room, besides being able

[10:55] to stand up in front of you and say something, have absolutely no control

[11:00] what you all do, what you all vote for. Now, again, I could be wrong, but I've

[11:04] I've been studying this, and um

[11:08] it is really at two two a point now where I believe personally, this is just

[11:12] from my own heart, this is not and this is not anything,

[11:16] but I I really believe personally that if we as citizens of our county are

[11:21] going to get any relief from property taxes, we're going to have to look to

[11:26] the state to get them. Um

[11:29] you all are faced with problems. I'm sure you have a shrinking

[11:33] at least a stagnant or maybe even a shrinking tax base that you have to work

[11:37] with. You need money. It's got to come from somewhere. I understand that.

[11:42] But, I just want to let you know from my heart

[11:46] and just to speak for my friends around me and the people that I know every day

[11:50] and I go to church with and do this and do that.

[11:53] It's getting to the point where we are not going to be able to sustain

[11:59] that particular system for very much longer. Thank you very much. You all

[12:03] have a great day. Thank you.

[12:09] » [clears throat] [laughter]

[12:27] » My name is Carolyn Bolton and I live at 1205 Walnut Street.

[12:31] And I'm one of those old people that live here that really can't afford for

[12:36] my taxes to go up. I live on social security.

[12:40] Our water just went up because the water system went down.

[12:45] Uh and now the taxes are going to go up and I work part-time just to have to pay

[12:48] my taxes. So, I just hope you guys can figure out

[12:53] something that will rework the system and the budget so that maybe you won't

[12:57] have to raise our taxes again this year. Thank you.

[13:18] » Tuesday Stark, 759 Maple. Um

[13:23] I just want to make sure am I seeing this correctly that the budget for '26

[13:27] is like 2 and 1/2 million and you're wanting to spend over 4

[13:31] million next year. Am I seeing that right?

[13:37] Um and I just want to echo them. This has got to stop.

[13:41] It's got to stop. I'm looking at probably writing a $5,000 check at tax

[13:45] time this year. Anybody want to pay that for me?

[13:50] Uh this week we're here. Next week uh the school is also holding a hearing as

[13:56] far as I know. And the county is also.

[14:00] Everybody.

[14:03] It's got to stop. Um

[14:07] I just I don't know what else to say. It's It's just You're just

[14:11] running as ragged here trying to pay property taxes.

[14:15] And it's got to stop.

[14:42] » [cough and clears throat]

[14:54] » Go ahead. >> Terry Tucker. I live at 1402 Maple

[14:59] Street and I just want to say that I do agree with everything that's been said

[15:03] tonight that um you know, it's we can't keep paying what

[15:07] we're going to pay if it keeps going up and up because

[15:11] myself, I'm on Social Security retired. And everything goes up, you know, and we

[15:16] just can't do it. And I have actually spoke to my husband about if it

[15:21] keeps doing it, we're to have to move, too.

[15:23] We'll just move to a town or a state that's uh cheaper to live.

[15:29] So, if there's anything you can do to not raise taxes, we would appreciate it.

[15:34] Thank you.

[16:25] » Anybody else?

[16:32] Okay. >> Yes, but it would take more than 5

[16:34] minutes. >> [laughter]

[16:38] » Okay. Uh anybody else want to speak into the uh revenue neutral rate?

[16:44] Okay, then I will officially call that hearing closed.

[16:48] Turn to normal meeting. Um before I open up the budget hearing

[16:54] portion, I do want to kind of for those that have the budget in front of them,

[17:00] like the notice of hearing that's there. Uh

[17:04] one of the things there is like in the third portion where the numbers are,

[17:10] where you get to that um little bit higher net expenditures and

[17:16] so forth. I want to point out that the 1% street tax street sales tax

[17:21] expenditure is listed in there and that's raising the overall expenditures

[17:28] as well as the consolidated streets has more in it than in prior years because

[17:34] of the intent of the council to actually use those funds

[17:38] within 2027. Those had to be included within the budget portion. So, that's

[17:44] going to make it seem like "Oh, wow. We're wanting to spend double

[17:49] what is normal." And that's not collecting double what is normal. That's

[17:53] spending the funds that have been gathered so that we can use those for

[17:57] the fixing of the streets and etc. Cuz it has to be kind of worked

[18:01] into the budget within that for it to be done

[18:05] correctly. So, that's why you might notice some of

[18:09] that is a little bit higher [clears throat]

[18:14] double higher for totals.

[18:26] And and then with that, I will officially call the 2027 budget hearing

[18:30] open.

[18:33] Would anyone like to speak into the 2027 budget?

[18:36] » Well, I I just had a question. Um we're

[18:39] talking about the street budget, but it doesn't seem like any of our streets

[18:44] ever get fixed. So, I don't know what's going on with that.

[18:48] » That That would be addressed at the next council meeting.

[18:51] » Okay.

[18:56] Before we go on, just a matter um can you tell me if the GAAP waiver has

[19:03] been um the resolution has been passed for this year?

[19:10] » GAAP >> Yeah, it's the

[19:13] um generally accepted accounting principle.

[19:16] It's a resolution that needs to be passed.

[19:19] » Okay. >> Has it been passed yet for this year?

[19:26] » The general Okay.

[19:28] » Generally accepted accounting principles.

[19:30] » GAAP Yeah.

[19:33] » Has it been passed? >> I'm not sure off the top

[19:35] » Well, I'm not I don't I mean it's a violation if we do not pass it. So, we

[19:41] need to pass it before we even vote on the uh budget. So, have you Can you go

[19:45] look to see if it's been uh brought up?

[19:49] Or anything? Cuz we need to pass it.

[19:53] So. Because it's I mean it's really

[19:56] important that our we pass it. >> Morgan

[20:00] Can you look at the resolution that >> Yeah.

[20:06] » What is it titled? >> It's the

[20:08] » GAAP waiver >> Yeah, the waiver.

[20:11] » Mhm.

[20:14] » Cuz it's a it'll be a direct violation and then it's the

[20:17] uh

[20:21] The state law specifically the Kansas budget law KSA 79-2925

[20:27] and KSA 75-1120 uh um

[20:32] says it's a violation if we do not pass it.

[20:35] So, we have to pass it. >> Okay, so when is it normally passed?

[20:40] » January through uh March the first uh part of the year.

[20:44] » Okay. So, is it something that's quarterly?

[20:47] » No, it's yearly. >> It's yearly?

[20:48] » Mhm. And it was passed in uh '25, but this has not been passed this year.

[21:00] So.

[21:06] And also the I noticed that the new deal bond is not fit on the

[21:11] um the budget and the water rate raises

[21:16] um is not listed either.

[21:28] » Is the assumption your CPAs are using GAAP?

[21:33] » Is the what?

[21:35] » Is your assumption that the CPAs you prepared this are not using GAAP?

[21:40] » If they we have to hire somebody and it's a lot

[21:44] of money if we um hire the amounts and so

[21:48] um it's just recommended that our small a small town there really

[21:53] go to work. >> I'm not seeing anything.

[22:00] » I don't think it's been passed. This year.

[22:03] » Has it ever been passed?

[22:06] » Um

[22:08] Could someone call for a recess so we can

[22:11] » Make a motion for a 10-minute recess. >> Can I second?

[22:24] » All in favor.

[22:29] We return at 6:31.

[22:40] » [clears throat]

[22:46] » I don't.

[22:58] We need to Did you get what number wrote.

[23:01] » No, I didn't. I didn't.

[23:08] They usually pass it when they pass all the other boards.

[23:15] The auditor tells you what accounting principle

[23:18] they Everybody usually gets it. It shows

[23:22] Everybody usually gets it. And it shows if you can pass the

[23:26] resolution that says make the They must use GAAP.

[23:30] » After I read about this, I stopped reading.

[23:31] » But they're already using it. I mean

[23:42] » [laughter] >> That doesn't take an easy guess.

[23:47] Yeah, we're using GAAP.

[23:54] » Usually they are when they do all the like newspaper format and same format.

[23:59] » That's all they want you to do.

[24:06] Otherwise, you know, you're

[24:11] It prevents cooking the books, so to speak. I get that.

[24:15] But it's purely accounting principle that

[24:19] they use. >> Well, the county was on cash.

[24:24] » Yeah. >> 2 years ago when that report was done.

[24:35] » No, maybe it's just cash.

[24:39] No, I didn't hear you.

[24:44] Right?

[24:51] Right?

[24:57] Right? >> I don't know if it's not GAAP.

[25:10] » That's what I thought, too. For 100,000 increase.

[25:18] Well, 34.15.

[25:27] Oh, oh, I'm sure. This is the difference of this.

[25:31] Okay, I hear you. 70% 70% 4.05

[25:37] » Who is this? I got to stay on my phone out the door.

[26:21] » That's a 40.6% increase.

[26:26] » With the increase in property valuation plus the increase in mill rate

[26:32] is a 40% increase in people's taxes. >> I'm not sure what the one is.

[26:39] Okay, 39. What's that?

[26:42] » [laughter]

[26:45] » You said 1% didn't you? >> Yeah, but it

[26:48] it saves every every month for you. >> Okay, got you.

[26:53] » I'm not sure. How much money is in that

[26:57] » Uh So, the further

[27:01] I would say 800 is just >> [laughter]

[27:04] » 807 807,000

[27:11] » Yeah. That's your crew.

[27:15] What's that? 807,000

[27:19] of crew. Right.

[27:21] 807,000 is what's in the account right now. I understand what you're saying.

[27:25] And it takes a million dollars to pay for mile.

[27:33] Yeah. Hot asphalt.

[27:36] I mean

[27:39] I vote that we do it right at my building over here.

[27:43] » [laughter] >> Unfortunately, no.

[27:50] I I I'd love to give everybody what they want, but I can't.

[27:55] » I'll get you a personal

[27:59] » Come come next week. I'll explain it all. I'll be glad to.

[28:03] » Yeah.

[28:13] Yeah, that's in the city too.

[28:22] Yeah. Well,

[28:24] this is showing me the the resolution numbers for the last three years.

[28:32] Uh 466, 451, 452, 448 and 449 was what the resolution

[28:39] numbers passed unanimously for the year

[28:43] 25, 24, and 23. >> [laughter]

[28:47] » 26 No.

[28:50] » so what done last year? >> Really?

[28:55] » What it sounds like on here it has to be done.

[28:57] » Hey. >> Angle of the camera.

[28:59] » Hey, that's what the guy said last time he was here.

[29:00] » Yeah.

[29:04] » The 75 has 1128 states it has to be done.

[29:07] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[29:10] If they can't find it at least we should at least have another one or two.

[29:14] » So how long is it? >> It's all right.

[29:15] » Yeah.

[29:20] » Hey. >> After

[29:22] » I think >> I think I did.

[29:23] » I think it's been a little while. >> I can't find

[29:28] » I thought it might have been a shot of there.

[29:31] » They have to >> I wasn't even asking.

[29:34] » I think that's what I said. >> She didn't know.

[29:36] » In between them.

[29:40] » It's okay. Ryan's going to want to kiss you.

[29:43] » Thanks. >> What's that?

[29:45] » Ryan's going to want to kiss you again. >> Yeah, yeah, next year.

[29:51] » Yeah.

[29:56] » What's that?

[29:58] Yeah.

[30:02] » You got it. >> You didn't have to.

[30:05] » You made me feel welcome.

[30:08] » This is my office. >> Let's switch this.

[30:12] » Oh, really? >> So you can switch it.

[30:14] » What's the difference? >> I think I brought my old stuff in here.

[30:18] » Hey, my old stuff is actually looking good.

[30:20] » We should have >> I don't know what you're talking about.

[30:22] There's fans on. >> I know.

[30:23] » I thought it was >> How long was it?

[30:26] » It was about 45 minutes. >> Yeah.

[30:32] » I think that little off me. >> It is like

[30:35] » Unfortunately >> I think people are now 900 and 20

[30:38] dollars.

[30:41] » What about the >> What if taste there?

[30:53] » I have to leave. That's a very short period of time.

[30:58] And like that's like regular retirement. >> So that's all for

[31:03] » Somewhere

[31:32] I should get some pictures >> That's a 401K.

[31:36] That's a 401K.

[31:48] » Is there a final for 2017? >> We'll answer that

[31:50] » Oh, yeah. >> as soon as we get back in the session.

[31:52] » The assessed value was 19670. Okay, what do you want to count for

[31:57] » If you found it, I would like to see a copy before I write it down cuz I don't

[32:00] know if

[32:15] » Can you make a copy of the last one, please?

[32:18] » One for everybody? >> Yes, please.

[32:20] » That's good.

[32:43] » [cough and clears throat]

[33:48] » Okay, recess is extended. We're resuming meeting um

[33:53] in the middle of the budget hearing at this moment. And the question came up

[33:56] about the GAAP. Um that waiver is uh we looked at the

[34:01] several the last several several several that have been done, and it is done in

[34:05] December of each year for that year.

[34:10] » But yours I mean if we don't if we don't pass it,

[34:15] we cannot pass the budget without me without it having a resolution,

[34:19] the waiver. And so, it's and we have to pass it or it sits the budget sits as it

[34:25] is. >> Okay, the GAAP

[34:28] is passed each year in December for the current year.

[34:31] » Well, I mean Cuz it cuz the budget is not complete

[34:37] as right now cuz it does not have the new Geo bond on it and it doesn't have a

[34:41] water raise on it. So, the budget is not complete.

[34:45] Cuz we've already done the water raise. This is

[34:47] » Okay, so the budget itself is separate from the GAAP.

[34:52] Which is an accounting process. >> Well, it's

[34:55] » And the GAAP is passed every year for that year in December.

[34:59] » Uh-huh. >> Now, the budget itself um

[35:03] grants uh it does not have those two items that were just added um

[35:09] not even added yet because the loan hasn't processed fully.

[35:13] The Geo bond has not processed fully yet for it.

[36:19] » You've reached the cell phone of Jeff Dean with Longview School. Please leave

[36:23] your name, number, and a brief message unless this is about a traffic or the

[36:28] prosecution and this is about one of those matters,

[36:31] please leave your message at my office. The number there is 816-525-7881,

[36:38] extension 13. Thank you.

[36:43] » At the tone, please record your message. When you've finished recording, you may

[36:46] hang up or press one for more options. >> Praise the Lord, this is Matthew Young,

[36:51] mayor of Pleasanton, and we are in the meeting in the middle of the budget

[36:55] hearing and we have a legal question for you. If you could please give me a call.

[37:00] 417-846-3674.

[37:03] Thank you. God bless.

[37:45] » [snorts] >> Okay, other than the new geo bonds and

[37:48] the water rate increase that is not showing on this budget that will one

[37:52] will cancel the other out within that. Uh

[37:56] anybody want to speak into the budget as far as the hearing portion goes?

[38:10] Seeing that there are no speakers in regards to the 2027 budget hearing, um I

[38:15] will declare the hearing portion closed.

[38:22] And move towards um

[38:25] the resolution for the city council to look at as far as exceeding revenue

[38:31] neutral rates.

[39:57] » So, what do you need us to do? >> Um what we need a motion to adopt

[40:02] resolution 479 to exceed revenue neutral rates.

[40:08] » Do we want to do that before we have clarification?

[40:13] » Um >> Okay. I can't find anywhere in the

[40:15] Cannabis Statute that states this has to be done immediately.

[40:19] » The what? >> The GAAP needs to be done immediately.

[40:21] » The GAAP? The GAAP is is done at the end of each year.

[40:27] Yeah, it's done annually. Uh it's typically the It just needs to be done

[40:30] before the the audit is done.

[40:36] Because the audit will be based on whether it's done in accordance to GAAP

[40:40] or if the GAAP regulations have been waived. The city

[40:44] our size typically waives those because we don't have any assets expenditure

[40:48] balance that's done in an form of accounting that way. We typically have

[40:53] the audit that is then done and presented.

[41:02] So, in in respect to I do understand that in this budget that is before

[41:07] everybody, it does not show the water rate increase and it does not show the

[41:14] new geo bond that we do not have in in fullness yet.

[41:19] Um I'm not sure to what degree that would

[41:22] play on the budget itself since

[41:26] if we did pass this budget now and got the geo bond in October or November, it

[41:32] would still apply to the following year and not be within the scope of the

[41:36] budget itself. Whether that means coming around and having to present a new

[41:41] budget with those alterations that really covered their own expenses or not

[41:47] would be something that we would need clarification on itself. As far as the

[41:50] rest of the budget, I don't know that we have any issue with continuing forward

[41:54] with it.

[42:05] » [clears throat]

[42:15] » But we don't know if that's going to make a difference.

[42:17] » It won't raise our mill rate. >> It won't raise.

[42:19] » It won't change the mill levy because the water rates change changes the

[42:23] internal water rates and does not affect the mills at all since none of the mills

[42:27] go towards the water. >> So our revenue neutral was 84.005.

[42:36] » Yes. >> Um last year the mill levy was 88.163.

[42:44] And this year it's going to be 87.284.

[42:50] So it's actually come down from last year.

[42:56] » Yes. >> No, your values have gone up.

[42:59] » Um and and therein lies the thing itself because the the mill levy last year was

[43:06] 88. Uh this this for this year 88. And we're looking at for 2027's

[43:14] um 87, which seems like it goes down. But if you go back

[43:19] five or six years, the the levy rate was 90 and people were paying less

[43:25] because the problem or the difference is is people's valuation is going up.

[43:28] » It's almost a 30% increase. >> Yes.

[43:32] » Just the proposed. >> And that's been the biggest issue. We

[43:35] talked to the county because the city does not set the value of your property.

[43:39] Uh people that work for the county do. The people that work for the county are

[43:43] given uh she's hiding. >> [laughter]

[43:47] » The people that work for the county there are given um

[43:51] a list of what they're supposed to look at, how they're supposed to look at, and

[43:54] how they're supposed to evaluate these things. And apart from knocking on every

[43:58] door and walking into every house, they have to assess from the way it looks and

[44:04] seems, the way the the the layout of it is from the outside, the approximate

[44:08] square footage of it, what buildings you have, what other structures you have on

[44:13] it, and all those things they mark off their list, and they put all that

[44:17] together, and they take it back, and put all that into the computer, and the

[44:20] computer says, "Estimated value." And it it's just

[44:24] skyrocketing. Um I myself know that from 1985 to 2025,

[44:30] the prices or the valuation of homes has gone up over 300%.

[44:35] Meanwhile, the the income that people make is only gone up 53%.

[44:40] Uh that's a terrible thing, and it is statewide, it is countrywide, and it's

[44:46] terrible. And it's one of those cases we can't

[44:49] blame the people that are doing the the valuations because they are hired

[44:54] for a job to say, "How big is it? What is there?

[44:58] Etc. etc." They do that, and then it spits out Uh it's it is really on a

[45:03] state level that this is coming all the way down to us is what those evaluations

[45:07] are. Uh what we do have control over here as

[45:10] much as possible is the the budget of the city and what we need to operate,

[45:17] and that is getting even more difficult because just like you know, everything

[45:22] is going up in cost. And when it costs more to fix things, more money is needed

[45:27] to fix things, and that becomes just a big long

[45:32] process. I remember back when they were saying that they wanted to pay

[45:35] McDonald's workers $15 an hour, and they could do that by raising the price of a

[45:39] cheeseburger 15 cents. The problem with raising the price of a

[45:43] cheeseburger 15 cents is everybody before the cheeseburger wants 15 cents

[45:46] raised also, and that made our cheeseburger from 67 cents to I think

[45:51] it's $3 now. Um so just budget-wise, I know that is a

[45:56] very difficult thing within itself, and we're trying to do our best to cut.

[46:02] I mean, I know this council sat here toiling over a lot of it to cut as much

[46:07] as possible and trim down and continuously saying we've got to get it

[46:11] lower. And we're not done because setting the budget doesn't mean we're

[46:15] going to spend every dime of that, either. We want to continue to look at

[46:18] every department and cut all the unnecessary things from those

[46:22] departments as we can. Um even if we look at prior years, uh the police

[46:27] department for 2020 um five was un- went under budget, which is good. That's what

[46:33] we want. Each department that comes in at the end of the year under budget,

[46:37] that's what we want because that was money that wasn't spent and didn't have

[46:40] to be spent. Um giving us positions to be able to

[46:44] change some of that a little bit more. I hope that helps.

[46:48] » Have you looked at having the sh- SO

[46:52] provide police for Pleasanton instead of Pleasanton?

[46:59] We do it in Miami County. >> As far as what?

[47:02] » We the sheriff's office >> Uh-huh.

[47:05] » takes over the policing for a city.

[47:09] But the the city pays the sh- SO to do it and typically it's a lot less than

[47:16] having your own agency. >> It can be. Um I can tell you that that

[47:21] is one of the things that's um is currently being looked into to see what

[47:25] the value of that actually would be. >> Cuz you got to have prior police you

[47:29] want to have citizens or businesses. >> Yeah.

[47:32] » Right? >> Yeah.

[47:34] » And so >> So I know that's um everyone that sits

[47:38] up here on the governing body has been looking into every potential in every

[47:41] way at trying to come up with a better way to do a lot of things to in-

[47:46] decrease the taxes because none of us want to be taxed more than we have to

[47:50] be. >> Right.

[47:52] » I agree with that. I think the biggest problem that we all have is that we have

[47:57] the highest taxes in the municipality. And we are seeing the least.

[48:02] » Yes. >> That is why everybody is so upset. I

[48:05] mean, my taxes personally went from the day that I moved in, $530

[48:11] to over $2,400 for a two-bedroom home.

[48:16] » Yeah. >> How is that okay?

[48:19] » I feel I feel your pain. I've lived here for 12 years.

[48:22] And I own a house up on 706 Main, right on Main Street. And my taxes have gone

[48:27] up just like everybody else's. And believe me,

[48:30] all of us sitting here, we understand it. I mean, but the county imposes what

[48:36] they impose on all of us. And I mean, our ain't the highest, too.

[48:39] » But why are ours the highest? Why is Pleasanton key

[48:43] » That's something we need to take up with the state because the state handles that

[48:46] stuff down here. >> That sounds like it would be city if

[48:49] it's the city that's the highest. So

[48:52] » But the state tax for every city is equal.

[48:55] » It doesn't change. It needs to be reviewed.

[48:58] » Right. But they impose it to the county and the county hands out the

[49:01] » Right. >> Can I add to that? Mayor, I asked

[49:05] somebody So >> [clears throat and cough]

[49:09] » So, how it works is like we come to your house and working as the appraiser's

[49:13] office, we come and we measure your house, we measure everything you have

[49:16] outside, and then we take it back. Like he said, we put it in the computer and

[49:19] it does that. And so then it spits out an evaluation, your assessed value of

[49:24] whatever your house is. So, you have a $100,000 house, just saying. You know

[49:27] what I mean? Like anybody, okay, you have a $100,000 house, and then you

[49:30] times that by the mill levy, which the mill levy isn't just based on what

[49:35] they're doing up here, it also comes from the school. It also comes from part

[49:39] of the county. And so it's like The part of that is is like

[49:45] I mean, if you're not asking all the questions to my office, like it's just

[49:49] overall everybody. Like if you're not coming in like, why is my property

[49:53] assessed at this value? And I do. >> Yeah, no, and I know that. You know,

[49:56] like, you can't say that, but like, if you're not coming and doing that, like,

[50:00] you know, but that's like the next step of help there, like

[50:04] » Unfortunately, like, we don't know if we can't go down much lower or we won't

[50:07] have a town. But, like, the assessed values

[50:12] There's like a thing that the county does and they

[50:16] my office does. Like, they'll look over like the whole

[50:19] thing and like, what's going on with the water right now? Like, does she need to

[50:22] reassess the value of Pleasanton, the whole town and the

[50:28] big poll to see if the values need to come down.

[50:31] So, it's definitely something that like everybody needs to start asking, like,

[50:36] why are our assessed values so high or when we don't have anything to show for

[50:40] it? >> Yes, but Pleasanton's city millage is

[50:43] one of the highest >> It is one of the highest, yes.

[50:46] But, it also comes with our school.

[50:50] » Yes, I agree. >> so it's

[50:53] unfortunately, all of that. >> As I said, I'm going to need a revenue

[50:55] neutral here. >> No, I agree. No, I agree. 100%.

[50:59] » [clears throat] >> Everybody is wanting to raise it the

[51:01] revenue neutral that was put in place to help

[51:05] property taxes not go up, but when >> Yes.

[51:11] But, assessed values >> keep raising it, the revenue neutral

[51:14] does no good. >> Yes, and it's also assessed values what

[51:18] the county does.

[51:21] Help into that.

[51:34] » You guys might not be able to answer the question. Does Power Great

[51:38] Stop. Wait, wait a minute. Power Great Lakes Inc. I thought

[51:42] their taxes were split up between the three for all the counties.

[51:46] » Just waiting for Just waiting to see what it is.

[51:48] » Just waiting to see what it is. No, [snorts] it's not true.

[51:52] » No, it's not true. >> It's not true.

[51:54] » No, I thought it was supposed to go to each city

[51:57] of the county.

[52:00] » That's not true. That basically what gets what gets the from the power plant

[52:04] is where it used to go to the county. And then and then the whole county

[52:08] Lacygne does not get any money from the power plant.

[52:12] Uh their not even their hospital board as a dollar comes.

[52:16] Uh but it's all you know, it's Lacygne power plant does not give any money to

[52:21] Lacygne or Linn Valley.

[52:23] » Just to the county. >> Just to the county.

[52:26] » Thank you. Right, with that so we got that. What about the Casey's

[52:31] here in town and the Ford dealership is that do they pay Linn County or

[52:35] Pleasanton? >> Pleasanton.

[52:37] » Are they in Pleasanton? >> Yes.

[52:40] Yeah.

[52:43] » Yeah, I mean is that revenue revenue that could be generated us by

[52:48] annexing those properties? I'm just asking.

[52:53] » I think they're already in the city.

[52:58] » They're in the city? >> Yeah, they're already inside Pleasanton.

[53:01] » Okay. >> They're inside city limits.

[53:06] » Okay, good. Then tell them to sell them to us.

[53:09] » [laughter] >> And I was going to actually mention that

[53:12] too. One of the things that some of the other cities around us they have more

[53:16] businesses which means they generate more tax revenue from sales tax. Without

[53:21] that then we're left needing more mill levies to equal the same tax rate or

[53:26] amount. So that makes us ask for more mill levies because we don't have as

[53:30] many businesses generating that sales tax. I would like to see more

[53:34] businesses. The problem is is a lot of the businesses that would like to come

[53:38] in they go, oh wow, look at the the mill levy tax is too high. Well, yes, but if

[53:43] you would come in, we could lower it because you would generate sales.

[53:47] Uh so, it's kind of a >> [clears throat]

[53:49] » So, so if you all adopt >> vicious cross-fixing.

[53:51] » If you all adopt this resolution, does that mean what we actually pay out

[53:56] of our pocket is going to be more?

[54:01] » What What do you mean? >> Are we actually going to be paying more

[54:04] money in tax if you all adopt the city of Pleasant, if you all adopt this

[54:08] resolution? >> Okay, so right now the current revenue

[54:10] neutral rate is set at 84.05. Uh we're looking at 87.284,

[54:17] which is really a three $3 per the thousand, $3.27 or $3.28

[54:23] $3.28 more per the thousand valuation of your

[54:27] home. >> So, is that a yes we will be paying

[54:29] » That would be more than the revenue neutral rate, yes, by $3 per the

[54:33] thousand. >> Combined with the valuation increase,

[54:36] this is going to be about almost 13%.

[54:43] » More than last year, it would be $3.27 more

[54:48] per thousand valuation. >> thousand

[54:52] » Yes. >> That is $3.

[54:55] » But your valuations But your valuations have taken about a 7% increase.

[55:00] » So, the Do what?

[55:02] » Your valuations have taken with this increase.

[55:07] » Yes. >> Property valuations have gone up.

[55:11] And by the time you take that with the numbers you're talking about, it's it's

[55:15] almost a 13% increase. >> It It really wouldn't be. So, revenue

[55:20] neutral rate, the 84.005 is equal to last year's valuation at 88

[55:27] mills. So, where last year the city got 88

[55:32] mills, 88.163,

[55:36] the equal amount of taxes for city taxes that you would pay

[55:42] um would have paid at 88.163, the equal amount to that for this coming

[55:48] year would be 84.005 [clears throat] mill levy rate.

[55:54] » I understand what you're saying, but you're doing the

[55:58] that's like an apple and an orange. That's like I have 11 fingers, 10 9 8 7

[56:02] 6 and 5 is 11. It doesn't work that way. And so by taking this increase over

[56:08] here, and your mill levy rate changing,

[56:14] » And >> you're picking up this value plus the

[56:17] mill levy rate. If you If you kept it at 100,000 and did that to the mill levy

[56:22] rate, I'm not screaming. But this one up

[56:27] » Yeah. >> almost 9%

[56:30] right? And cumulatively, when you take the mill

[56:34] levy, it's almost a 13% increase. >> Net.

[56:38] » It wouldn't be. Um because the exact

[56:42] Okay, now here's here's >> [laughter]

[56:44] » Um the way the revenue neutral rate works is the total valuation for the

[56:50] city >> Oh, I see what you're saying.

[56:52] » went up. That includes everybody's house.

[56:56] So to pay the exact same amount revenue So revenue neutral rate for the

[57:01] total valuation for the city was right here.

[57:05] So this is the revenue neutral rate. This is how much money we got last year.

[57:08] If we keep it at that exact at the revenue neutral rate, we would get the

[57:12] exact same amount of money. >> Mhm.

[57:15] » Okay? Not everybody will get the same tax bill because even though the the

[57:21] city went up a certain percent, each individual house

[57:26] changed in that percentage increase also.

[57:31] And that's where you're saying that you have that difference there because your

[57:34] evaluation went up different than somebody else's valuation.

[57:39] But overall, to go above revenue neutral rate, really from the amount that was

[57:44] taken in last year of the at revenue neutral rates,

[57:50] we're talking about a $31,000 increase to the [clears throat] city budget for

[57:54] next year from this year.

[57:56] Uh that 30 $31,000 is all the budget's going up.

[58:00] Uh

[58:03] that's almost frightening because if you consider uh

[58:07] the cost of living increase, any type of pay increase, or anything else, $31,000

[58:12] is not really enough to cover it. Um

[58:16] so, but the council uh has been working really hard to try to

[58:21] get that down to as low as possible for that. But I do understand, it is it

[58:26] is your increased property uh then the mill levy

[58:31] increase, $3 and something more per uh

[58:34] mill on that valuation.

[58:39] Which is an interesting

[58:42] math equation in itself because the total value of your property uh times

[58:49] you would 11% of that is how many mills, then you divide that by 1,000, and then

[58:54] you take that number, and you multiply it by the mills, and that's what you pay

[58:57] taxes on.

[59:00] So, is that

[59:03] » Yes, so everybody's assessed values are different. Nobody's assessed values are

[59:07] the same. Even if you have a 100,000 square foot house, and you have a

[59:10] 100,000 square foot square foot house, and you have a 1,500 15,000 square foot

[59:14] house, both of theirs could be lower if your house is not

[59:18] up to par of what theirs are, and it just unfortunately has nothing to do

[59:21] with you guys, it has all to do with the county.

[59:24] » Yeah. >> Yeah, and do you look at

[59:26] the ex- the assessed valuation

[59:31] proposed or actual, it's changing by a lot.

[59:36] » Almost 5% >> is from 9.26

[59:40] 9,260 to 9,725. [clears throat]

[59:45] On total valuation, you can see it's Pleasanton.

[59:48] » Yes. >> Well,

[59:51] so >> the mayor would have to speak into the

[59:53] sales tax kind of wideness, but the difference there.

[59:56] » That's fine. We'll just go with the bosses and

[59:59] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[1:00:00] » Mhm. >> Yeah, there's a lot of calculations that

[1:00:04] go into this in so many different fashions on everything.

[1:00:07] » But they didn't have sales tax in those years.

[1:00:10] » So,

[1:00:13] yeah, the other thing is is the city of Pleasanton does have the consolidated

[1:00:16] streets on top of that. A lot of the other

[1:00:19] cities will only have the one, which our general mill levy is 62.991,

[1:00:26] and then the consolidated streets tax is the 24.293,

[1:00:30] uh which I'm still looking to try to find

[1:00:34] exactly when that was introduced. Uh in in further looking at some of what

[1:00:39] I had understood, >> I found that. I'll I'll get you a copy

[1:00:43] of that. >> Okay.

[1:00:44] » And no other city has that. It's uh Pleasanton's the only one that has it.

[1:00:50] » Yeah, cuz my original understanding of that being introduced in '95 wasn't the

[1:00:53] case. '95 introduced the first sales tax,

[1:00:56] 1%. >> So, consolidated streets.

[1:00:58] » So, consolidated streets was would have been sometime

[1:01:04] back there. Uh

[1:01:07] Which is probably Which is probably, you know, squaring off some time and coming

[1:01:10] and going through all of the ordinances and

[1:01:13] and and everything for that. >> What did you say, Michael?

[1:01:16] » It'd be easier to chew a little bit if the roads in the are some

[1:01:21] Our roads or infrastructure >> We're trying

[1:01:23] » in very good shape.

[1:01:27] » [cough]

[1:01:29] » As soon as we can see some changes, we would probably get on the truck.

[1:01:33] » I mean, I know for me looking at that, it's kind of like, okay, this has been

[1:01:37] on here for how many years now. There's no reason our roads should have been

[1:01:41] allowed to get to what they are. And unfortunately, we can't change how we

[1:01:46] got here, but we can change from here moving forward, which is why we are

[1:01:50] working a plan of action and this is governing. I mean, this this council has

[1:01:54] already released some funds to start working on getting the streets fixed and

[1:01:59] so forth. And I'm really looking forward to seeing that unfold instead of it's

[1:02:03] coming, it's coming, it's coming. The KDOT grant for for for one has been it's

[1:02:08] coming, it's coming, it's coming, but there is a lot involved in that KDOT

[1:02:12] grant and everything. And [music] we're taking bids right now

[1:02:17] for that. So, if anybody's watching or anything, please get on

[1:02:20] get the bid specs, put in a bid for the KDOT grant that will do action

[1:02:26] Cedar. I feel that is kind of budget related because that's money going out

[1:02:30] for

[1:02:34] I'm not sure when it exactly is going to start off hand.

[1:02:39] But, the bids are open through end of October.

[1:02:45] So, right now they're looking at finalizing the bids, then we'll process

[1:02:51] the council the council will vote on which bid to go with and they're looking

[1:02:55] at a spring start for that for my understanding.

[1:02:59] So, the the other ones, the overlay thing

[1:03:03] and some of this extra money that's I mean, that's been released from the

[1:03:05] council already to start going out for that. The overlay people, they're

[1:03:09] wanting to start in October. So, as long as everything goes through

[1:03:14] with that thing.

[1:03:17] Yeah. The the

[1:03:20] » like to start as soon as possible with that.

[1:03:24] Yes. So >> I talked to him today.

[1:03:27] » Yeah. Last time I told him he talked to him he

[1:03:30] was going, "I want to start by at least October. You know, what do we need to do

[1:03:33] to make this happen?" I'm like, "Let's Let's Let's do that." So

[1:03:38] I'm hoping that as we see those things unfold people will will get excited and

[1:03:41] go, "Okay, yes, I'm seeing results here." With that

[1:03:46] but budgets are difficult. I mean, everybody here knows that. You have your

[1:03:50] own budget that you're trying to juggle.

[1:03:53] » So will they overlay? Do they come through and actually tear up and put

[1:03:57] overlay on top of it? >> They'll mill it out and then they'll

[1:03:59] mill it down to a certain level and then they'll put a

[1:04:02] layer on top. >> Yeah.

[1:04:05] Um you're talking about businesses like I don't know if that's something I need

[1:04:08] to come back next week and ask you about, but can you do something for

[1:04:12] taxes like hey, we can we do we give a tax break? I was like,

[1:04:16] can we do a tax break to like start advertising businesses to come cuz I

[1:04:19] know it's a huge part of it. Like We don't really

[1:04:22] » How are the streets or towns? >> We

[1:04:25] » business >> Yeah. We we own the land out by the

[1:04:27] highway and it's like the land out by the highway sits and

[1:04:32] » There There is a tax incentive program for new businesses coming into town

[1:04:37] and there's a complete list of how that's broken out and everything in its

[1:04:40] own special book in the clerk's office that if anybody is wanting to know how

[1:04:45] that exactly works, we'd be happy to get it out and sit down with them and

[1:04:49] kind of show them what that tax incentive is. Now, we do remind people

[1:04:52] that is the city of Pleasanton tax incentive. It's It's not county and

[1:04:57] everything else, but I knew do understand that a new business to Linn

[1:05:02] County may be able to have the same opportunity for tax incentives with the

[1:05:06] county. They just have to file that with the county and talk to them on it.

[1:05:10] » County has enterprise zone.

[1:05:14] That should help you right there.

[1:05:19] » So that's doesn't increase the city budget right

[1:05:22] off the bat, but if it establishes a good business and they stay, then it

[1:05:27] does eventually produce that revenue that is needed for the city.

[1:05:34] Anything else from the council wise on any of that?

[1:05:37] Do we have a motion to adopt the resolution 479 to exceed revenue neutral

[1:05:43] rates?

[1:06:04] » I'd like to make a motion to adopt resolution number 479.

[1:06:16] » Motion is made to adopt resolution number 479 to exceed the revenue neutral

[1:06:21] rate for 2027. Is there a second?

[1:06:39] » I second.

[1:06:48] » It's been moved and seconded.

[1:07:02] » Um

[1:07:18] » Okay, for all those in favor, we'll do a roll call vote, please.

[1:07:22] » Michelle? Um

[1:07:30] Yeah. John?

[1:07:33] » Yeah. >> Alex?

[1:07:37] » Yeah. >> Danny?

[1:07:39] » Yeah. >> Kenny?

[1:07:42] » Yes.

[1:07:48] » Resolution passes.

[1:07:56] Moving on to the budget for 2027.

[1:08:45] Everything here is in accordance to our last budget work session.

[1:08:53] Everything is before you all. Is there a motion to accept the 2027

[1:08:59] budget?

[1:09:02] » Can the budget be amended? Um it goes to include the geo and the

[1:09:06] and the water rates. >> Um we can come back later and amend that

[1:09:09] for the the budget in itself. Um I'm not sure how that would work doing trying to

[1:09:16] do that at this moment. But we can pass this budget and if need

[1:09:22] be come back and amend the budget to that. As far as mill levy itself

[1:09:27] portion of this budget, it wouldn't adjust that or change it at all.

[1:09:44] » And do we have to notify the um the county and stuff that we're going to

[1:09:49] amend the budget? >> Um the problem with

[1:09:53] um amending the budget itself is we do not have

[1:09:58] another geo bond that can go in this budget right now in front of us because

[1:10:02] the geo bond has not been issued. >> But when it is issued, that's what I'm

[1:10:07] asking. >> After it's issued, um we could we would

[1:10:09] be able to amend the budget and that would be a whole process again. We would

[1:10:13] have to notify the people of the amended budget, have another hearing regarding

[1:10:17] it and do all of those steps to it. Um as far as getting this to where it needs

[1:10:24] to be to the county and everything else, we only have until the 20th of this

[1:10:28] month. Uh since the geo bond wouldn't be even issued to us until after the 15th

[1:10:34] of this month, we would not have enough time to be able to present this and get

[1:10:39] it all to the state uh to the county and to the state before the 20th. So we

[1:10:43] would have to come back after that. >> I thought it was October 1st.

[1:10:48] » It is the the hearings and everything have to be done between August 20th and

[1:10:53] September 20th.

[1:10:58] » And then it we when we um >> Yeah.

[1:11:02] » And when we amend the um ordinance of the jail we also put on the

[1:11:06] water rates, too. >> Yeah, we could could do all that at the

[1:11:10] same time.

[1:11:15] Cuz those items wouldn't affect the millage portion of the budget. It would

[1:11:18] just affect the water portion of the budget.

[1:11:22] And what our total indebted indebtedness is.

[1:11:45] » Now this >> Well, I'm not sure if I'm comfortable

[1:11:49] with passing something when we don't have all the numbers in there.

[1:11:55] » And this and this number right here the proposal will change from 4,000 to a

[1:12:00] higher number, right? >> On what?

[1:12:04] » On page 15.

[1:12:11] Where it says 24,000 budget. From 24,000 it will change

[1:12:15] because of the jail bond. Am I being clear?

[1:12:21] With the jail bond revenue.

[1:12:26] » Are you going to put 4 million >> The what?

[1:12:29] » Are you Are you going to put 4 million in?

[1:12:33] » It'll It'll raise it with the the new jail

[1:12:36] bond in there.

[1:12:41] » Yes, expenditures would raise because the in- income would raise.

[1:13:07] » So what's the energy of one? How much is that?

[1:13:11] Do you know? >> 345,000

[1:14:31] And the way the water rate increase was calculated,

[1:14:34] it was calculated to completely cover the geo bond and cover a deficit in the

[1:14:41] water department as was expected based on expenditures this far this year.

[1:14:53] » So, after we get those numbers and they can be added in here, then we can go

[1:14:57] back and amend this budget.

[1:15:00] » Yes, which uh

[1:15:03] » And we've talked to legal counsel >> And

[1:15:05] » do that. >> So, we contacted the

[1:15:09] um

[1:15:12] the loan people to ask them how that works because we don't have the geo bond

[1:15:16] yet, so therefore we cannot include it in this budget. Uh once it is, then that

[1:15:20] would be an amending of the budget that would be needed to cover it at that

[1:15:24] point. Uh but as far as uh being able to do that before our deadline, we would

[1:15:30] not be able to. But as far as going back and amending it, we could do that.

[1:15:35] Because city budgets aren't impossible to amend, there are regulations and

[1:15:40] processes to do that with. Um

[1:15:43] which is what we would have to do in this case, just on where we are with

[1:15:46] getting that geo bonds and how it falls time progress.

[1:15:50] » And we won't be in violation? >> No.

[1:15:53] » Or illegal? >> No.

[1:16:16] » And you said it won't be installed after October when we get the geo the new geo

[1:16:19] bond? >> It's supposed to process sometime at the

[1:16:23] end of this month. >> So, this is September?

[1:16:26] » Mid mid to end of September, yes. But once it processes and we're able to

[1:16:31] put the numbers in and activate the water increase um which would be going

[1:16:35] on for October, um

[1:16:39] where we'd be past the deadline to be able to redo the budget, which is why we

[1:16:43] do need to go ahead and pass this budget and seek for an amendment once we have

[1:16:48] all of that extra numbers, geo bonds, licenses, and so

[1:16:51] forth.

[1:16:59] » I make a motion to go ahead and adopt the budget for 2021.

[1:17:06] » I second. >> It's been moved and seconded to adopt

[1:17:09] the 2017 budget. If we could by roll call, please.

[1:17:14] » Rochelle

[1:17:30] Yeah. Billy >> No.

[1:17:34] » Alex >> Yeah.

[1:17:37] » Sandy >> Yes.

[1:17:39] » Kenny >> Yeah.

[1:17:48] » It is adopted.

[1:17:51] And then as soon as we get all that other information, I will get all of

[1:17:55] that together and to you all and at the same time get

[1:18:01] the procedure that we would need to go through to do that which needs done.

[1:18:11] I'll go ahead and pass this.

[1:18:17] Just write your name and then

[1:19:24] » Now, finally, as is all things for tonight, I would entertain a motion for

[1:19:29] adjournment. >> I'll make a motion to adjourn.

[1:19:34] » So moved and seconded. All in favor? We're adjourned.

[1:19:38] Thank you everybody for coming. >> [clears throat]

Pleasanton City RNR/Budget Hearing Council Meeting

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