[0:00] So, welcome everybody. We don't often get such a party, but we're glad to have you. Thank you for coming. We got a bunch of people also watching on Zoom. So, we'll start our regular meeting, reminding folks that the meeting is recorded by a Zoom and the entire recording of it will be available within a few days online at BuzzFoldationWide.gov. So, here we go. Welcome all the Village Board regular meetings one day, October 27th.

[0:30] As is always the case, we have a work session and seven regular session beginning in peace.

[0:34] Our next regular meeting is on Monday, November 10th.

[0:40] So obviously the big matter tonight is a presentation by Lunar about their proposal for the site

[0:49] up behind Foxwood.

[0:50] As long as I have a captive audience, let me just make a couple of announcements and one

[0:55] Michael will engender widespread approval, and that is after months and months and months and months and months of efforts, the Emmy, Eric, Alyssa,

[1:09] Senator Stewart-Cousins office, Assemblywoman Shamsky's office, two days on their hopeful sign, the legislation you wouldn't think legislation would be needed, but it is to allow us to have a red light camera on the

[1:23] the song in Parkway at Grand Street.

[1:30] That's going to be part of the county system.

[1:34] They have the right, what is it, 50?

[1:36] They have the right to put up 50's,

[1:38] red light cameras on county-owned highways.

[1:40] The recent required a state action

[1:43] is that their legislation only permitted them

[1:46] to put them on county-owned highways.

[1:48] They accepted the willingness

[1:49] to put it up on this state-owned highway,

[1:52] which, not for nothing, they're the contracted enforcers for us.

[1:56] So our next effort is to go back to the county and say,

[1:59] how soon can we let this happen?

[2:00] But within, hopefully, not too long for the people

[2:05] who come speeding through red lights at Grand Street will be caught.

[2:10] Also, good news.

[2:12] Long haul.

[2:12] Thanks, thanks to everybody involved.

[2:18] That looks none or have significant what we're going to do now.

[2:21] So as you all know, we have an application that we have received for a series of zoning changes that would allow the construction of 102 units project on a site up behind Foxwood.

[2:39] It's a, it's kind of a crazy story about why this site exists in the matter it does.

[2:46] And so I just have a couple of slides that I think are worth

[2:53] losing through quickly so people realize the kind of interesting story but I'm

[3:00] this son.

[3:03] So here's the map. This circle is the approximate site. Here is

[3:09] Manville Road. Here is Bedford Road. The Methodist Church campus drive.

[3:13] this little gray spot is the village-owned tennis courts. This is the 254 unit

[3:21] Foxwood condominium. This building here is what we used to think up as the Bank of

[3:27] New York site for many years that back up emergency site for Bank of New York and

[3:32] up at the top of the building. The top of the hill is the seven engineering building

[3:36] now owned by somebody else. There is a ridge here so that this is all on one side

[3:43] the Hill on the other side of the Hill is the Toll Brothers townhouse project on

[3:49] Dennis Lane, which was redeveloped several years ago and had been two offstones. So way back when

[4:01] in the 1920s, Hyrum Edward Manville, the keeper of the John's Manville asbestos fortune,

[4:11] owned something like 500 acres in Pleasantville. It was a big grand setting. He built this house,

[4:21] which was 56 rooms. It had elaborate gardens and landscaping and patios and terraces and

[4:32] there were many other outbuildings. That existed until the 1940s

[4:40] He died in 1944, his wife sold the property to General Precision Libertories, which was a company involved in designing high-tech technology for sonar race.

[5:00] Local precision laboratories, which was a company involved in making, in, in, in deciding at

[5:07] the time, high end technology for sonar radar and the life.

[5:13] 1947, here's a New York Times

[5:15] article, laboratory crisis, country life in Manville, place at Pleasantville, mansion remodel

[5:23] to permit precision work, stirs inquiries by other concerns, but zoning laws are a stiff

[5:28] So you probably can't see this totally well, but this picture down here is engineers from GPL

[5:36] working in high-remembered manvill's dining room in rather grand circumstances.

[5:44] Here's what happened there after. This is the view, this is head for a grove, this is what

[5:50] eventually turned into campus drive. This is the site that Foxwood was later built on in three phases

[5:57] in the late seventies. Here is the mansion on which continued to be owned and operated by

[6:04] general precision laboratories ultimately acquired by Singer. And here is the first piece

[6:10] of a very big building that they built adjacent to it later in the 1980s expanded.

[6:26] Fast forward

[6:27] for a variety of reasons, including the fact that the 1920s era 56 room mansion was probably

[6:34] not the most efficient site for them, but they also needed quite a bit more parking,

[6:40] and in the end produced this on the left hand side is the building that now exists at just above

[6:48] Foxwood, and further up the hill, the building that now exists at the top of the hill,

[6:54] the seven-engineer insight. So this left building, one campus drive, is 144,000 square feet.

[7:01] That is a very big building. It is immediately adjacent to Foxwood, which sort of wraps around it.

[7:09] And for something like three decades, after GPL departed, it was owned by the Bank of New York as an

[7:19] emergency backup facility intended for use if Bank of New York had to move

[7:25] their operations somewhere else. For all these many years it's 144,000 square

[7:31] foot building with all kinds of spaces and conference rooms and a

[7:34] cafeteria that had like two people working it. The only time they occupied

[7:39] it's a my knowledge was right after 9-11 when Bank of New York had suffered some losses

[7:45] down town near the World Trade Tower, and some of their sites were inaccessible or flooded by

[7:50] by all that went on in the lower Manhattan, and on an emergency basis they occupied this building,

[7:57] and initially it was a scary thing for everybody, certainly folks at Foxwood, because there were

[8:04] foreign security guards, there was a short period of time when there was uncertainty about whether

[8:09] there was an attack on the financial system,

[8:12] but Bank of New York continued to use that site

[8:14] with buses coming from New York City

[8:17] and from the train station,

[8:19] bringing employees there, being able to take them overnight,

[8:22] eventually over a period of,

[8:24] I think a few months, it tapered off

[8:26] and went back to its acquired state.

[8:30] The reason I give you all that background

[8:31] is we're in this circumstance now

[8:34] where Bank of New York decided a few years back

[8:38] that they did not need this building in the world of cloud computing and the world of remote access.

[8:42] There was no reason to maintain this. They put it on the market and it was sold.

[8:47] So we're now in the circumstance where there is a very big build. That is what you see here

[8:52] in this area, the former Bank of New York site. And included as the linear folks will explain,

[9:00] the former seven building at the top of the hill are all proposed now for this redevelopment.

[9:08] The route up there campus drive is actually owned by Foxwood, our access to the tennis courts, the site of the Bank of New York access to its site, and the access to seven involves easements across Foxwood's property.

[9:22] all recorded in all of those deeds. There is also an easement associated with this

[9:31] former Bank of New York property on Manda Lane through the middle of Foxwood. And as you guys in

[10:01] So, there you are. That's why we have this crazy circumstance. And that's why all of this site here about Foxwood and now wrapped around by Foxwood and told on this site is commercially-zoned for campus office. Either this site continues to be active, this site has been inactive since back in New York vacated, but it is currently commercially-zoned.

[10:26] And so all that we confront is the question of what's going to happen next.

[10:30] It clearly isn't going to stay vacant forever.

[10:34] Lunar has this proposal, others may have different views, but that's the starting point.

[10:40] So I invite the folks at Lunar to introduce what they're doing just to be clear.

[10:44] Obviously, all of us are here, Virginia Gray, our attorneys and land use matters from

[10:51] from Cayman-Bean is here next to her students in Fibata.

[10:54] I have the FJ planning to give the planner

[10:58] who will be involved in this process

[11:00] on the village is behalf.

[11:01] Susan knows quite a bit about this property

[11:04] and was the planner on the toll brothers project.

[11:07] So she and her firm will back 10 years or more

[11:11] with the village of Pleasantville

[11:12] and I think are well situated to participate in this review.

[11:17] I say at the outset and I've said to lots of people

[11:20] we will approach me today. This is not an emergency meeting. You don't have to throw yourself

[11:24] in front of whatever bus you are concerned about. We will hear you and we understand that folks

[11:31] have lots of concerns, but this is just the beginning of the explaining to people on the part of

[11:37] what are what they propose to do, and the beginning of what will be a thoughtful, deliberative process

[11:42] with plenty of opportunity for folks to engage as we get around the road. So with that, I invite

[11:49] Michael and our folks, maybe you could just introduce yourselves, who's here and take

[11:53] it over.

[11:57] Good evening, Mr. Mayor.

[11:58] Trustees for the record.

[11:59] My name is Tony Joffrey.

[12:01] I'm a member of the law firm, Cuddy and Fair, 445 Hamilton Avenue, which brings New York,

[12:06] and I'm here on behalf of US Alums doing business as a alarm.

[12:09] Mr. Mayor, thank you very much for that introduction.

[12:11] I think it gives a good perspective in history.

[12:14] I'll see your knowledge of the area, a bunch better than what we could do, and so we thank

[12:18] you for that.

[12:18] I'm joined this evening by our project team Bob Geiger, director of entitlements for

[12:24] Lunar, Jake Cunning, the director of Rain Act Positions for Lunar, Diego Villarreal, and

[12:29] Paul Seisek from JMC Planning, and my colleague Deb Patrick from Cunning Affair.

[12:34] The Sparer has indicated this is the beginning of a process.

[12:38] We submitted a petition to amend the official zoning map of the village in order to permit

[12:43] the 102 townhouse development that you mentioned. The properties that are subject to this proposal

[12:50] and this petition include one campus drive and three campus drive and two properties that you

[12:56] highlighted in your slideshow. Those properties are both classified within the campus office district.

[13:02] It also includes eight carry court which is classified within our residential district

[13:07] and the campus drive easement area that you also referenced on the magazine.

[13:12] The total project area is 20 and a half acres and we're proposing to replace the existing

[13:17] structures that you identified, the 144,000 square foot vacant office building at Long Campus

[13:23] Drive, associated parking, the 31,000 square foot partially vacant office building at three

[13:30] campus drive, as well as the vacant single family owned with the tax forage at 8 karat

[13:35] report. The premises, as you indicated, is bounded by the properties and foxwoods and

[13:41] toll brothers proposal, as well as the high-voltage transmission lines to itself. This

[13:48] proposal includes and proposes to replace those structures with a 102 townhouse community.

[13:55] There will be 10% affordable units proposed in accordance with the code recordings.

[14:01] We are also proposing six additional smaller design units, which would be more suitable for mid-range income households.

[14:09] We are not proposing condominium development, we are not proposing rental, these will be fee simple units, e-simple ownership.

[14:17] Army access is very vindicated, we will be coming from campus drive.

[14:21] And as part of this proposal, we are proposing to close off Mambolane for normal traffic, it will be closed and used for emergency access only.

[14:31] And you'll see in a moment I'm going to have, just to be clever, you say clover, you mean the easement would cease.

[14:38] So, Foxwood people would still use it.

[14:41] I mean, we would not be able to.

[14:42] It's one of five.

[14:44] And you'll see in a proposal in the materials that we're going to present to you and the site, the conceptual site plan,

[14:50] that we took a lot of time and effort to respect and preserve the natural features and topography in the development.

[14:57] and you'll see that happens to be our real walkie-through.

[15:00] It zooms around, it's doing it. So in the end, it's sort of okay, but we don't have

[15:07] full control. Who is coming at? Good evening. My name is Bob Dagger, and I'm the director

[15:16] of entitlements at Lenore Homes, New York, New Jersey Division. And if anyone's not

[15:22] Familiar with Lenore, Lenore Homes is a national publicly traded home building company.

[15:30] Currently we are working in 27 states throughout the country. The New York and New Jersey

[15:35] division is quite vibrant. This coming year we are on track to close delivered 900 homes.

[15:46] We worked throughout the state of New Jersey, South Jersey, Central Jersey, the Coastal,

[15:52] and North Jersey.

[15:54] In New York State, we are currently working in, we currently have an active community located

[16:01] in Tuscita.

[16:02] That is a 1200 unit project that has multi facets, there's an active adult community, there's

[16:10] passes, multiple neighborhoods spread out across a large track and we are currently looking

[16:25] throughout the Hudson Valley and look to do more in Orange County, Westchester County

[16:30] and the greater Hudson Valley.

[16:33] And as for tonight, we welcome the opportunity to petition the Board of Trustees to rezone

[16:39] this property, the subject property, and remove the two existing office buildings, and as

[16:46] Tony stated, we're proposing a townhouse community. Again, Tony stated that they would be

[16:55] for sale, townhouses, and essential ownership.

[17:01] We're proposing the proposed site plan layout

[17:06] reflects the design parameters they're outlined in the PUD zone, maintaining the existing road pattern,

[17:15] the physical conditions such as the woods, the topography, the rock outcroppings,

[17:22] and the natural drainage pattern that's out there now.

[17:26] We do share some easements as was described

[17:31] tonight, access easements and utilities,

[17:36] easements and the like.

[17:38] And we also neighbor the Foxwoods community.

[17:42] So we met with representatives of the

[17:47] Foxwoods Homeowners Association.

[17:50] And we went through our proposal with them.

[17:53] Welcome to any concerns, questions,

[17:57] desires that they had to listen to that.

[17:59] And I think you'll find that tonight, when you see our proposal and the site plan in

[18:04] the layout, it will reflect that what went on in these discussions then did a big

[18:15] effort to try to achieve a mutual, initial mutual understanding of how these neighborhoods

[18:23] work together.

[18:24] You know, and I think the residential nature of this

[18:27] marries well with Foxwoods and the audience-laid community down on Washington Ave.

[18:34] And in summary, you know, I'm going to turn it back over to Tony and be there to go.

[18:40] But I do want everyone here to be aware that, you know, the team we put together has spent

[18:47] a lot of time walking the site, surveying the site, looked at all the existing infrastructure,

[18:55] all the road network, the traffic patterns, the existing flow of cars, traffic,

[19:03] and all the existing and drainage as well, and all the existing patterns that are out there.

[19:08] And so I want to, we have taken a very hard look at this and look forward to putting this

[19:15] for both of Bauer and I'm going to turn it over to Tony and the rest of the team can

[19:19] really get into some of the details.

[19:22] Thank you.

[19:23] Thanks.

[19:26] So, Mr. Mayor and members of the board, we're proposing a rezoning of your official map,

[19:33] as I mentioned earlier, and we're proposing to rezone the properties into the punishment.

[19:38] Two of the properties are already classified within the pun, and we're seeking to include

[19:42] the eight-carry core, I'm sorry, two of the properties are classified in the campus office,

[20:00] Classification into the punishment, a carry court needs to be rezoned to the campus office district, which then can be rezoned into the public. And you're just here briefly, so people will be missed. The public district plan your developments, the same zoning that exists for told brothers and essentially. All right, probably the same density as exists units for acre response, but that's correct. So we're there's two ways for a development to be classified from public.

[20:28] It has to have contiguous acres of 25 acres, which we do not meet the eligibility requirement

[20:34] for.

[20:35] The second is to have 15 acres within the CO district.

[20:39] Certainly right now both one campus and three campus meet that requirement, but we're

[20:43] also proposing to include the A. Carey Court property into that campus office so that collectively

[20:50] it can all be included for consideration into the button.

[20:53] So effectively we do have a petition for a rezoning of the map, but it's effectively a two step

[20:58] process. A carrot court would need to be reclassified to the campus office and then collectively all

[21:04] of the properties into the pungent district. With that, that's the boring part of the presentation.

[21:10] I'm going to hand it over to Mr. Villarreal, who will walk you through the conceptual plan,

[21:13] so you can report to yourselves with what we propose.

[21:22] You need me all, again, for the record, you need to go Villarreal with JNC,

[21:27] with the planning and engineering consultant that has had an opportunity to work on this project with

[21:31] the applicants. Again, just quickly, as has been indicated really by Mr. Joffrey and Mr.

[21:39] Geiger, we have really spent the tremendous amount of time getting up to this point with the

[21:45] overall design, the site plan. It was not something that was just developed and submitted quickly.

[21:53] There was really a lot of process, a lot of design and thought process that went into that consideration

[22:01] of natural features on the property,

[22:03] how the different units in the building's layout,

[22:06] the driveway, the access of all of those things

[22:09] were really looked at, studied as part of this process,

[22:13] and we looked at multiple different alternatives,

[22:15] how to make all that work together.

[22:17] And that's just something I wanted to start with

[22:19] before we dive into some of the details.

[22:22] I have a few slides to share with you this evening,

[22:25] just to convey that overall design process,

[22:28] how we got to where we are today,

[22:29] And just give you a preview of the site plan that was included in the package that was submitted to your board.

[22:37] The first slide here is really just to provide some context. It's an aerial photograph.

[22:41] Mr. Mayor, you had a number of slides that kind of reiterates.

[22:44] I don't want to dive into the details that you dove into.

[22:47] But this just gives you some context of the overall 20 plus acre portion of the property that is being considered here this evening.

[22:55] it's highlighted in that side in color. You can see Bedford Road. I'm just going to ask Paul

[23:00] my colleague to point to some of these for the benefit of everybody looking at Zoom. We're looking

[23:05] at the screen. You can see Bedford Road off to the bottom portion of the page. Obviously Foxwood's

[23:10] Condominium Association just due the north and northeast of the project site and then the enclave

[23:16] to the northwest of the portion of the property. To go to the next slide, now we can just zoom in

[23:23] a touch more. And it just gives you a little bit more context and detail. You could see more

[23:28] clearly can't describe the way it enters the site, the two existing buildings that are situated

[23:34] on the parking lot, and those large, expensive parking areas that exist throughout the property

[23:40] itself. You see the single family home on the plan left hand side of the page. That's the vacant

[23:46] single family home. That's part of this application as well. And we can just dive right into it.

[23:55] The next slide, just go to that one please. This is a rendering of the site plan that was

[24:04] included in the package. And as has been indicated, it's a total of 102 units that are situated within

[24:11] the multiple buildings throughout the project site. The buildings themselves are

[24:17] are uniquely designed and situated in different areas.

[24:21] Not all of them are the same.

[24:23] This was not a cookie cutter design where buildings

[24:25] just conveyed and multiplied throughout the site.

[24:28] There's a number of different types of units,

[24:30] whether they're three pack, four pack, five packs,

[24:33] even six pack buildings.

[24:34] All of them are selected based on their situation

[24:38] on the specific portion of the property

[24:40] that they're located within.

[24:42] I know everybody is very familiar with this property,

[24:44] the topography. It's not a flat piece of site. You've come up. There's a number of natural features

[24:50] on the property. There's two large rock outcropings that surround campus drive. There's a number of

[25:00] There's buffers that are existing between different portions of the property. All of those things were taken into consideration, like I said earlier on when we started laying out these buildings. Campus Drive really was the start of it. That's how we would access the property that was served as the main access to the development itself, and we'll see how it's pointing to it there. And then we really have three distinct areas of buildings that have been situated.

[25:27] The first one on the northern or northeastern side of the property, you can see there's a roadway that extends from man-built to campus drive and that connects those two roadways.

[25:38] And then there's building situated on either side.

[25:41] That's where one of the large buildings was situated and one of the larger parking areas.

[25:47] So, where there was an existing building and there's a large parking area, a lot of that is being removed.

[25:53] It's being replaced with the new residential buildings and the roadway itself.

[25:58] I know it was indicated earlier, but I think it's important to note it again.

[26:03] The access points off to Manville right now. There's two curb cuts out there.

[26:07] They're being consolidated into one.

[26:10] And then the site plan does show it for emergency purposes only so they would be gated off and blocked.

[26:15] on the linear portion of the property, so Mandela is free to be used as it is today,

[26:21] but as far as coming into the site, we're meeting the site from that location,

[26:26] it would be strictly for emergency purposes for a moment.

[26:30] When you come further up, campus drive, those are where those two large rock outcroppings are,

[26:37] and those two hill areas with the trees, all of which would be preserved.

[26:40] There's another leg of the development that would go off to the plant left-hand side there and that wraps around to where that residential building or the residential home is situated now.

[26:53] So as you come down into that area, again, taking into consideration the topography.

[26:58] This is a great example of where we utilize the existing topography to help preserve some of the buffers.

[27:04] The buildings themselves like I said are not cookie cutter. They're not all we're not taking the land and manipulating the land to fit the building buildings are designed to fit with the land.

[27:16] So some of them are designed as walkouts as the topography drops off on that left hand side of the page.

[27:22] A building is situated there that is again specifically selected where we can take advantage of that and create a walkout or a lower level basement for the unit itself there.

[27:33] So, again, it's all about selection of buildings and looking at the different unit types that they have available and how can it work best with the property itself.

[27:42] The next portion is really where the office building is situated. That's the back portion of the site.

[27:50] Really parallel to the enclave and then a portion of the property that slopes down towards the road right there.

[27:57] There, that area is probably the flattest portion of the property that's where the existing

[28:02] building is.

[28:03] There's large parking lots that extend to the east and to the west of that.

[28:07] So by demolishing that building, we're able to take advantage of that opportunity, create

[28:11] a roadway, situate the buildings, but similar to the other portions of the property, we have

[28:16] a number of walkouts and a number of tuck unders where the building is built into the hillside

[28:22] where garage is under, and then the back side of it actually comes out at a higher level.

[28:26] So we're able to utilize that in those areas as well.

[28:31] As part of this plan, lands gaping, maintaining those buffers was critical.

[28:36] You can see the large extents of the green area, the darker shaded green areas are wooded areas that would be preserved and protected as part of the proposed developments.

[28:47] We are not encroaching into significant areas. We're not going further than what's needed.

[28:52] It's really just what's needed for the buildings themselves, the grading around them, and then trying to protect and preserve as much as we possibly can.

[29:01] In addition to that, we already started to develop a robust landscaping plant to try to enhance landscaping on significant portions of property, especially on that north, north, eastern side where the large building was situated.

[29:16] But so there's a significant amount of landscaping that's being proposed along the lane behind the individual homes in that area where parking lots are situated today, all of that would be removed.

[29:30] And it gives us opportunities to create a significant amount of landscaping and landscape areas in and around it.

[30:00] We're fee of payment that it's less than what will be there today when you look at it and compare everything throughout the entire site. That ties into the stormwater management improvements. We understand stormwater is a concern. And it's always something that we look at as part of our proposed development plan. Again, as starting off with reduction in pervious areas starts to reduce the stormwater requirements right from the start. But regardless of that, we're incorporating a number of

[30:29] stormwater management features, including some infiltration areas, water quality practices,

[30:36] all of which is being considered as part of the proposed redevelopment.

[30:41] So not only are you looking at a reduction in a pervious area, but you're looking at

[30:45] other stormwater enhancements as part of the proposed project itself.

[30:51] Parking for the development itself, you'd obviously each individual home is built with

[30:56] driveway and barrages within them so they parking within the driveways. We also created a couple

[31:03] of other parking areas throughout the development. Not to overpark it. We don't need significant

[31:08] amount of parking because most of the parking occurs within the building itself. But we thought it

[31:14] was important to create some pockets of parking in and around the development area for guests and visitors

[31:21] I

[31:26] was going to pause there for a moment, that was really just a quick overview of the site

[31:30] plan.

[31:31] I didn't know if there was any questions or any thoughts and the thing that the board

[31:34] wanted to ask at this point, happy to answer them.

[31:37] Are just sidewalks included to the plan?

[31:41] Great question.

[31:41] Yes.

[31:42] There's a network of sidewalks that's incorporated throughout the development site, all built

[31:48] to create connectivity within the proposed development.

[31:51] So you do have a number of sidewalks that are being proposed on one side of the street.

[31:56] We don't do it on both sides.

[31:58] So you have the roadway that be situated there.

[32:00] Then you have sidewalks that are being constructed.

[32:03] And again, the sidewalk would be constructed and brought down to campus drive as well.

[32:08] As part of this proposed plan, we are looking at campus drive.

[32:13] There's some improvements that need to be made to that.

[32:15] Not only to the roadway along its corridor, sidewalks that would get constructed,

[32:20] but also the intersection downloaded all this highlighting right now as part of I know there was a number of comments and concerns related to that intersection.

[32:30] So we looked at making some modifications to kind of streamline how those two roadways come together to prevent cars from making a left hand turn into Foxwood condominium and vice versa.

[32:42] and it's really direct to everybody on to campus drive,

[32:45] keep them on campus drive out to that for growth itself.

[32:49] So that you can actually see in the rendering itself,

[32:51] it's kind of shown how that would be reconfigured

[32:54] to really funnel everybody down to that portion

[32:57] of the property town.

[33:02] Where are you going?

[33:04] That was a little review of the site planning.

[33:06] It would be that dive into more details,

[33:07] but I didn't think I figured just tonight would do.

[33:10] I think we had a full overview of what's with detail.

[33:12] We've had this for a while since you submitted it.

[33:14] So, again, any other questions?

[33:17] Happy to answer them.

[33:18] I understood this.

[33:19] Elevations?

[33:20] Yeah.

[33:22] Elevations used.

[33:23] Oh, other buildings?

[33:24] Yeah.

[33:25] Sure.

[33:25] I wanted to go through some of the other natural things.

[33:27] Can you talk about the housing, stuff, any personal stuff?

[33:31] Sure.

[33:32] That's an activated simulation.

[33:35] Sure.

[33:36] I can't help it.

[33:37] Yeah.

[33:38] And as Bob has come back up, and he's going to go through what was submitted.

[33:41] So,

[33:45] what we're proposing or mainly two product types, the one on the top is the Schaefer

[33:52] model.

[33:53] That is 28 foot wide, two car garage, 50

[34:03] foot deep, three bedroom units.

[34:07] The bottom product is, as Diego talked about, these will fit into, there's a couple spots

[34:14] where there's some slopes backed up so these will be tuck under configuration where in the backyard

[34:22] it's two-story and in the front yard the garage entry the unit is two-story but from the back yard

[34:31] this first floor will be a grade level in the backyard. These units are 24-foot wide and three

[34:40] as well. Both of these units are very similar to what's out at the on-play on the

[34:48] Toll Routers community. There is an affordable unit that's required one more

[34:58] or Paulie's name, just...

[35:00] You can see the one is COVID cheese ran and it has an additional little bump out in the kitchen area in the back and on the master bedroom up top. These will be sold in market rate prices, but will be a little more affordable than the other two units. So that is kind of the overview of the.

[35:22] If you were the reason they've been constructed today and they're on the market today, can you give us what do you think the relative selling prices would be today?

[35:32] I think today we're looking at this unit mix being not this model, the first two models, being in that high 900 to a million low one million.

[35:46] And the market price 1500 square foot unit is a little harder to pin down.

[35:57] Like to keep it in that just at $700,000 range that to 750.

[36:04] You know, we'll see how that goes.

[36:06] It's hard to really nail that down.

[36:08] Okay, so it included in this, I know, people always inquire, are there units that provide

[36:17] a natural suite on the main floor?

[36:21] As of today, we go through this with our marketing posts, that could be office.

[36:27] The Schaefer model potentially could handle that.

[36:32] A true minister down sweep really works at 30 feet to 32 foot wide.

[36:42] So as of today, these are not truly set up for that.

[36:47] I just thought really because there are certainly folks who are interested,

[36:52] older folks interested in a place where they go to Asian place in the event

[36:57] that say it became a problem later in life and there may be you know a percentage as we move along

[37:03] where I know we are adding that around so we would get in adjustment. Two of the things that

[37:10] you're presenting I don't want to start getting into a lot of my appeal you all are gone. Oh

[37:16] no on site plan I think that's it so then this is the York texture or it's in the other. By

[37:20] the application correctly, there was some, the assumption was that in these hundred and a few odd

[37:27] units you'd get a total of something like 44 kids, is that right? Am I reading that right? I don't

[37:34] know if I'm not good at practicality. So we did an analysis for the school age, generation of

[37:39] school age children, and again it's preliminary, there's still additional and I know portions and

[37:45] I understand that there's some comments that we're going to be coming forward that we're going to be

[37:49] looking into providing some comparable to give you a better idea and

[37:52] generally clear the process that we will go through to review in this would

[37:56] require detail on all of these categories. So this is so we could be

[38:01] providing that open. The fiscal analysis comparable to the data that I do as opposed

[38:04] to the straight mathematical analysis. Now it's not generally accurate. So

[38:09] there's right now the analysis proposes 21 children between you know

[38:14] kindergarten through 4th grade, 14, between 5th and 8th grade, and 7th school age showed

[38:20] it at 4th.

[38:21] So 42 kids.

[38:23] The average family size is around 2-ish, in general, among people who have moved in

[38:33] here.

[38:34] So you're probably talking about 20 or 25 of those units having children.

[38:39] Is that the sort of your thought, your thinking here?

[38:41] Well, again, the analysis that we provided to you was basically, we should not map analysis to part about that.

[38:47] Well, I guess what I'm wondering from marketing perspective is who, what's the profile of the person who lives in the other 80, some units or the other 70 units?

[38:59] Like, who is being attracted?

[39:01] These are 3,000 square-page units with three bathrooms, right?

[39:06] That's right.

[39:07] So that's a pretty large house.

[39:09] And I know that we have them in the village.

[39:12] But I'm asking you what you're thinking, um,

[39:15] or upwards of $1,000,000.

[39:18] Who are you marketing to?

[39:22] In buzzing bill.

[39:23] We're doing what they're working.

[39:26] We're doing $1,000,000.

[39:27] They're not current.

[39:28] Just to follow onto that.

[39:30] I mean, in essence, what we're posing is very similar to the existing economic model,

[39:37] and likely the population that we see in the on-play, the 12 reds project.

[39:44] There?

[39:45] Yes.

[39:47] Well, but I mean, you guys are in the development side, right?

[39:52] Right.

[39:53] Who's your customer?

[39:55] families and also move down buyers a lot.

[40:00] Yes. Well, but on the, I mean, you guys are, you're on the development side, right? So, right? Because you're, who's your customer, who's your family's and also move down buyers. A lot, really, 50 to 65, 70 years old. So, these are empty nesters in the healthy part of their life. It's what you're sort of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have an opportunity to meet. Let's just, right.

[40:31] I think the better hitting directly, Dilson, he enclave is the demographic of that.

[40:38] The proof is there, what is there.

[40:40] The children, everything is really going to be very simple.

[40:46] No, I just want to understand.

[40:50] The next question is, I know I do there.

[40:57] So maybe you did this because you felt an obligation, but for the smaller units who do you think will and not the not the affordable units but the market rate units.

[41:07] I think that is more of an opportunity for a younger family to invent to those. Yes. Okay.

[41:14] With the, now there's double garages on the bigger units and single garages on the other units is, and maybe it's for you guys to tell us in terms of the zoning, the residents are they allowed to have the number of cars that they're garageal fit and they park on the driveway is there street parking what's the situation.

[41:45] So if this is resumbed to a HUD district, it's really based on planning considerations.

[41:54] So in a HUD district, you don't have in your code, there's strict zoning requirements.

[42:00] It's more based on what works for the site, what makes for us from the plan.

[42:04] We should get teased out of the contract, get a site plan review, and get to that one.

[42:09] or typically this basis will be upstream so they be in their driveway or the garage or combination

[42:16] or two. For the rest of us. So I guess the question I have from the village point of view

[42:26] is that the, you know, when we change our name, we change zoning because we think it will be in the

[42:33] and that benefit of the building, right?

[42:37] And of course there's a concern about what would happen

[42:40] if the existing office buildings

[42:43] are either reoccupied or redeveloped,

[42:46] which seems like a distinct possibility.

[42:50] And that might end up being a worse situation.

[42:52] We have a concern about the storm drainage

[42:54] for short as an issue.

[42:57] But then in terms of goals for the building,

[42:59] I think one of the biggest problems

[43:00] we have in this community, when surrounding communities in the Westchester in general, is that

[43:06] people who work here cannot afford to live here. As seniors age, the ability for seniors who don't

[43:16] have 10 million dollars plus of asset assets to live in place or to live within the community is very

[43:23] limited. And so I'm curious was it the is it marketing? Is it the constrictions of the zoning,

[43:33] the specific zoning that you're working with, or is it some other reason that has you putting

[43:38] a lot of these luxury and the master apartments units and very small number of the starter home,

[43:50] retiree home worker home units in into this thing. So in other words, is it a maximizing

[43:57] profit thing? Is it, well, the zoning can't really accommodate it, or is it some other

[44:01] reason?

[44:02] I'm not really sure I understand your question.

[44:07] Well, what I'm saying is it's very, very question.

[44:10] If we said, well, look, what we think would be better for the village is a whole bunch of

[44:16] 1500 square foot townhouses because, you know, $700,000

[44:20] and sound like a bargain, but it is at least in the

[44:25] realm of possibility for, you know,

[44:28] somebody who owns a small business here

[44:30] or people who are downsizing from a bigger house

[44:33] who are local who may have been there since the 50s

[44:36] and are not going to have, you know,

[44:38] the bank account to finance a 1.2 million dollar house,

[45:00] Our housing stock in the village, currently.

[45:04] So, we, we, we, during our pre-alcoholism and planning design, we took a look at the market and what's available and the housing stock. We also took a look at your comprehensive plan, right? And some goals and policies that the village has set out for development for planning for master planning. And this proposal is consistent with that. We're, we're, if we did smaller units, there would probably be any for more

[45:29] density. And the density is not committed under your zoning, but that's the zoning issue.

[45:34] So that's the one hundred percent of the old purchase one. So I can ask you guys a question now.

[45:39] Is this the only zoning alternative that we have or can we customize zoning to our needs if

[45:46] they're going to change something?

[45:51] It's the only zoning alternative you have in your current

[45:53] regulation. And about to create a new zone that you would feel comfortable with. That's like

[46:00] guys very, they killed the crime or like I'm just reading your

[46:04] saying sorry, we tried to work with the construct. No, I

[46:08] understand. I don't understand. You know, we, I'll just the

[46:15] sorry, I don't need to drop it off. Currently, the provisions in

[46:19] the pod district that the applicant's applying under requires

[46:22] 15 contiguous acres, and there's a specific density that is

[46:27] is spelled out in the code for that, I believe it's.

[46:31] Sorry, units for acre.

[46:35] So, if you wanted to change that density,

[46:38] that would be within your current due,

[46:40] but it's inconsistent, not inconsistent

[46:42] with the company as a plan.

[46:45] And it would be in the form of a text amendments.

[46:47] So, right now, what the applicant is requesting

[46:49] is a zoning map amendment.

[46:52] So, she has a zoning designation of the properties

[46:55] in order to allow for increased density above what they're currently allowed in the code,

[47:01] you would have to change the text of your zoning code to allow for more than that five units per

[47:07] acre. Right, and I'm not suggesting that you do this, and I'm not suggesting this is necessarily what

[47:12] we all want to do, but I am trying to understand, is that a huge burden to us, to the applicant, to others,

[47:20] if we were to decide that that's economically what we wanted to happen for

[47:25] this property. It's doable. I mean for the for the 12 others projects in 2013

[47:31] I believe it was at that time it's both a map and text amendment. I mean as

[47:36] the existing PUD needed some tweaks to allow that development to happen. So there

[47:41] was a text amendment as well as a map amendment at that time. This applicant is

[47:44] proposing a map amendment and the other last work within the existing text. So you

[47:49] You could certainly within your authority to change the density, what that appropriate

[47:53] density about it is going to have to be analyzed.

[47:57] There's a good analysis, and we also have to take a look at your comprehensive plan because

[48:00] you can't change zoning, that is inconsistent with your comprehensive plan.

[48:04] So we stay within your goals, your policies, and your existing zones.

[48:07] No, I understand why you did what you did, where, you know, it's not 2017 anymore, either.

[48:13] So we're in a different era.

[48:17] Sorry.

[48:17] All right, I'll deal with the other question.

[48:21] I'll do the more.

[48:22] I'm also anxious to hear what public has to say.

[48:25] Was that part?

[48:26] Can I answer one thing, please?

[48:29] Just a little bit with the question.

[48:31] It is when you look at the site plan,

[48:33] we really are following.

[48:35] There's different levels, different platforms,

[48:38] different existing rows and where buildings were

[48:40] and the disturbance already, to do anything,

[48:44] We're getting more density, different product type is going to, you're going to want to flatten things out and not things to try to make things.

[48:55] If you take one of those wide units that has essentially two faces that has two car garage and everything and you move it to the chase, was it the chase?

[49:11] Yeah, so that would necessitate in itself, changing the topography?

[49:20] Yes, to get the density that would also, again, you have high infrastructure costs here,

[49:27] the demolishing these buildings, and all their associated infrastructure and parking and things like that, and redoing campus drive.

[49:36] This is a little bit like you've raised the question and it's a little bit of a kind of everything

[49:42] Following the zoning right we tried to do right right there is a cost factor involved

[49:47] Right, and then there gets to be an over density and starting to start the land a little and also

[49:53] Those are gonna bring more school

[50:00] We say the density is creating a difference. I'm just very simple minded, and I'm saying if there's a 24-foot wide unit and you're replacing it with two 24 or 22-foot wide units, that seems like yes, it's more density, but it doesn't seem to change our opinions.

[50:22] Maybe it's a great spot now because there's an advantage, one of the occasions for developer

[50:27] and any developer has to cut it out for them.

[50:30] It's financial.

[50:31] And those dimensions are when he ends up working on it.

[50:36] If you also have 14 or half of that, if you have 24 and a half is 12 for one, that's not

[50:42] it.

[50:43] And if you increase number of units, then it would not be in compliance with zoning.

[50:46] Because you know, well, the zoning is a separate issue, and again, it's, you know, when we looked

[50:51] this site and we followed the PUDs. Yeah. Yeah. It was really thought out for this small spot

[50:57] and like it was a little bit easy to follow but it definitely led us to that kind of plant.

[51:05] So if you had let's say the market was different and you didn't believe that in Pleasantville

[51:13] you could sell more than say like 50 of the over one million dollar units at three thousand square

[51:21] would you have said, assuming the zoning was not the constraint, would you have said,

[51:26] oh, this is a viable property or no, this is not a viable property or no.

[51:32] I'm sorry.

[51:33] Say, say, say, say anything.

[51:35] So, if you come into this and you're marching, people are told you, you know what?

[51:43] Emplations of people are concerned about this and that we don't think that we're going to sell

[51:49] more than 50 more units in a development above $1,000,000 dollars at 3,000 square feet.

[51:56] If you want to develop this, we need more smaller units.

[51:58] That's just where we think the economics are ahead.

[52:01] Would you have said as the developer to them, this just has to work out with this piece of

[52:07] product?

[52:08] I don't think we can answer that because we've looked at your existing zoning, a variety of

[52:12] active land.

[52:12] Fair enough.

[52:13] So, and one of the other comments I wanted to make, as well as just go into the street chase

[52:17] with the chain square and we'd give them to power for me that they'd have the heights.

[52:21] I don't know that we would comply with the height requirements.

[52:24] There's a lot of others that could be clear.

[52:27] Maybe if I'm understanding that, if he's one of the most advanced use you're exploring

[52:32] to have more than a hundred students, all they're smaller.

[52:37] There's a lot of issues there, right?

[52:40] And not the least of which is what happens if we don't do this, right?

[52:44] And I guess I'm just curious, like, yeah, nobody wants more traffic, for sure, but I do wonder like we all, I think most of the people in the village would agree that housing cost is very big issue, and that this is a hard place to get a football then whether you're, you know, working in a little business, whether you're starting family, et cetera.

[53:09] But, you know, I would at least sort of like, you know, what our options are.

[53:13] That's all I'm saying.

[53:15] Okay.

[53:15] Speaking on what people are concerned about, quite a distraught firm.

[53:18] Yeah.

[53:19] It was good.

[53:20] Yeah.

[53:20] We did have a lot of emails and there was a very large Facebook, which I sort of categorized

[53:25] the topics.

[53:27] So you guys are aware of some of the concerns from a larger group here, but, um, traffic and

[53:33] road congestion just increased volume backups on Medford Road.

[53:37] These are all residents that live in the area. There's a lot of both, like a lot of you to

[53:41] vocalize what the track is currently. So that's, I hope you guys mentioned if you did do your own

[53:46] track and study. And then is that correct? No. So we've done some preliminary traffic work where

[53:51] there's going to be a more of a bus traffic study with levels of service analysis when we look at

[53:55] intersections. And I understand the neighbors' concerns, particularly those are the ways to

[54:01] that issue as well. The one thing that is not taken to the consideration right now is the

[54:06] the office building was, you know, or vacant at this point.

[54:09] If those office buildings were a full capacity,

[54:12] we'd be trying to have a completely different discussion.

[54:15] But, you know, it is right now, we'll be doing those analyses.

[54:18] Let me give you that additional question.

[54:20] This is our first night here.

[54:21] Definitely.

[54:21] There's going to be many, many meetings.

[54:23] No, I just wanted to sit out.

[54:24] There's going to be a minute for me to say that I love

[54:25] so much about the public interest.

[54:27] Okay, great.

[54:28] They're not all vacant.

[54:29] They're not booked.

[54:30] They did.

[54:30] Runs vacant again.

[54:31] And now, the other one and the other was full.

[54:33] Okay.

[54:33] in the business in there, so that the old seven building is occupied.

[54:38] Right, the building in New York, building 144,000 bird food is vacant.

[54:43] Who owns those two buildings currently, do those are all of them?

[54:50] So, before we open that, sir.

[55:06] I just want to make sure that we are vocalizing when people and concerns are pedestrian safety

[55:13] and emergency response, just delay and speaking traffic, there's a lot of different threads

[55:18] on that, but these are the high level topics, public services and fiscal impact, recreation,

[55:24] in schools and community resources. This was a particular one specifically because I didn't see

[55:31] your plan in any sort of public space or anywhere where the village could kind of benefit from,

[55:38] or like a, besides maybe sidewalks. I could say from that environment and green space, which I know

[55:43] you guys have put tremendous amount of work and obviously into looking into this space.

[55:48] Sidewalks and connectivity, which you touched on a little bit here, and infrastructure, zoning,

[55:53] density and village character, specifically just rezoning these

[55:59] canvases for high density units. So it's kind of a huge concern that the

[56:04] development of roads plus most small town town. It's spotted up against a lot of

[56:08] different concerns that are going on. Transparency, ownership and accountability,

[56:14] people were requesting this goes property ownership and developed our identities,

[56:18] these, um, developer contributions and conditions. So I think that that was sort of the overview

[56:25] I had, um, established between emails and posts, just being each other, everyone, we can

[56:32] go deeper. And I'm sure people are here tonight, obviously, go on with that. Sorry.

[56:37] I think this is the, all right. We'll wait for a moment. If you would, we'll break it open

[56:42] very soon. So other board comments. So, so, let me say Jennifer, you know,

[56:48] I find wrong, but one of the things we will leave for Utobi is a draft.

[56:54] Amendment, zoning amendment, please text it, the zoning amendment.

[56:57] In a local format, the average, right?

[56:59] So Susan, do you have any further to ask that you think we will, I mean, certainly we'll

[57:04] be asking for a lot as you've already referred to.

[57:07] There's a clear process for fiscal impact draft, is for school generation, all those things.

[57:11] Yeah, we've asked for an expanded fund study which, yeah, we're going to full fiscal impact

[57:16] analysis, school children analysis that is incomparable. I would say based on the experience in pleasant

[57:22] build, particularly the 12-wether site, and other comparable in our properties perhaps in the region,

[57:27] like what are the actual generation rates from those developments? So when we return to stormwater,

[57:32] management plans, excuse me, informational works of solar capacity, for structure, and conceptual

[57:39] or landscaping land to have it on the chain, things like tree growth.

[57:44] Well, we're fully anticipate that there's going to be additional comments and things that

[57:46] we're meeting.

[57:47] Sure.

[57:48] We can work with your consultants and staff on just to make sure that we drill down on exactly

[57:53] what you're going to be looking for and have a complete petition for you for your review.

[57:56] Particularly as it relates to the secret analysis that will go along with us.

[58:00] Yeah, generally that's going to be part of the secret process.

[58:02] The only other last thing is just the treatment of before we ends to make sure that

[58:06] their first and in this English opening exterior.

[58:09] That shows that there was some requirements.

[58:11] So we'll talk about it more as that.

[58:14] All right, so,

[58:16] perfectly, we've been open to public comment,

[58:18] and anyone who wishes to speak is welcome to do so

[58:20] and come forward.

[58:21] We need your name and address for the record.

[58:23] But I also wanna make clear that as you have heard tonight,

[58:26] a lot of information has been presented.

[58:28] You're gonna have a lot of questions out of the room.

[58:30] You need not feel that it's an emergency need

[58:33] to say what you think tonight.

[58:34] We will have many opportunities, and I say that not to discourage anyone, but there will be many opportunities and including some specifically focused on each of these issues that have been brought to us already and that the applicant has has made reference to but we'll provide more detail on. So with that, I'm sorry.

[58:53] And I just give a sense of the seeker process.

[58:56] Oh, great.

[58:56] I should have been current.

[58:57] The requested action here is a rezoning.

[59:01] And that is only something that the bill is working right.

[59:03] So in terms of the state Marlon Quality Review Act,

[59:06] the bill is bored.

[59:07] There will be a bleed agency.

[59:08] And we'll conduct a full environmental review.

[59:10] The applicant has submitted some initial documentation.

[59:13] But there will be, as you just heard, more analysis,

[59:15] more documentation.

[59:17] And there will be a whole process in terms of seeker.

[59:19] That will be coordinated with the planning commission

[59:21] because the plan commission is resorting successful than that, but the body will have

[59:26] the authority for the site plan, and I'm assuming it's subdivision as well,

[59:31] application for the plan commission. So we'll be closely coordinated with the commission,

[59:35] but the bill is for Islead agency as the mayor and the head of lots of opportunities for public

[59:41] comment and review. It's built into that secret process. We have a client here, chair of the

[59:49] I'm sorry, I interrupted.

[59:51] No, that's not your fault.

[59:53] Do you want me to talk about process?

[59:56] Please.

[59:56] What the steps are going to be held in addition to secret.

[59:59] The next step.

[1:00:00] The planning commission, you'd also be referring the proposed local law to the planning commission for their advisory report back to you in addition to a Wester's or county planning and any other interested agency. So once you're ready to take that step, the planning commission will then review the proposed legislation, the proposed project that goes along with that and give an advisory report back to the Board of Trustees as to whether or not they think that

[1:00:30] the project and the proposed zoning is a good idea. Once that report comes back to you,

[1:00:37] you would schedule public hearing on the proposed legislation for the rezoning,

[1:00:43] and that once that public hearing has concluded, that's when you would make your secret determination

[1:00:48] and decide the rezoning. So there are several steps along the way and lots of opportunity for public

[1:00:54] comment and participation along as well. Both informal and formal. All right, anything else there?

[1:01:02] So let me just say in my life as your mayor, I spent plenty of nights saying, please

[1:01:08] real estate gods, let Bank of New York stay there because we had this incredible charmed

[1:01:16] decades-long area when there is a very, I think it's the biggest building in Pleasantville, New York

[1:01:23] that is essentially empty with a couple of people

[1:01:25] caretaving for them by the existing code

[1:01:29] that could be repopulated as of right

[1:01:33] if someone decided to buy or lease it for commercial purpose

[1:01:36] in system without campus off the zoning.

[1:01:38] And so the fact that Bank of New York decided

[1:01:41] they no longer needed it presented a risk

[1:01:46] and hopefully an opportunity, whatever turns out to be,

[1:01:49] that has been lingering since Bank of New York Department.

[1:01:52] So that's kind of the context in which all of this is happening over the past some years,

[1:02:00] lots of people have kept the tires of this project, including projects that were commercial

[1:02:08] and nature, but not consistent with the zoning.

[1:02:12] In the end, this is the only one that's gotten to

[1:02:15] at this point that I'm making such an application.

[1:02:18] So with that, if folks would like to speak,

[1:02:22] I'm the volume name and address

[1:02:23] and let us know what you're thinking.

[1:02:25] Tom, come on up.

[1:02:30] Yes.

[1:02:31] Tom, really, 26 will be right.

[1:02:35] Just a few comments on the whole brothers project,

[1:02:40] which is much smaller than this proposed project.

[1:02:43] 68 instead of 1 or 2 has increased traffic then cold through my street. They they have figured

[1:02:51] out our way out not to get through this disaster traffic light by Dunkin Donuts by cutting through

[1:02:57] hill to drive going over the hill. And during school school hours it's like the Indian app of

[1:03:06] the speed way. I mean that sincerely. That's one concern. The next concern with 102 projects

[1:03:17] units would be, I would really like to see the math and the formulas that you have come up with

[1:03:24] to say that out of all those units that you're only going to have like 42 school kids as absolutely

[1:03:31] ridiculous. In my small street from 1960, when it was brand new, there were 24 families

[1:03:40] and they had 26 kids on one street. And you're telling me that out of 102 units. There's

[1:03:49] only going to be 44. I would really would like to see the math with a formula. How do you

[1:03:55] work it out? And you will see that. And as far as traffic goes,

[1:04:01] was, you can do all the surveys you need and spend all the money you need.

[1:04:05] All you need to do is stand on the corner any time in Fresno and look.

[1:04:09] It is absolutely horrible, particularly at the corner of Washington Avenue and Mammal

[1:04:17] Road by Duncan Donuts and the theater.

[1:04:20] You make a right turn there.

[1:04:22] I'm green and the minute you get to the corner, the light is red and in fact all the way up

[1:05:00] So, so, so, and I documented the times when it has happened to me in terms of because there was no, no, no, no, rhyme or reason. Sometimes it's eight o'clock in the morning and the other time is that's 530 to at night. As far as the units, this town, this village is so overpopulated. Now the last thing we need are more apartments that people. I'll say normal income families could possibly

[1:05:30] they can't report it. You brought it up. Now there's a reason for zoning. Zoning laws are there

[1:05:39] is to protect the village and the residence for whatever that area was owned for. And all you have

[1:05:46] to do is change the zoning and go from commercial to residential. This is just not right. Now I realized

[1:05:54] that that kept residential and residential businesses moved in, you would still have a lot of traffic,

[1:06:01] but you wouldn't have 42 kids in the school district, and as much of a burden on our volunteer

[1:06:09] firemen and ambulance workers, because it's just going to totally overburden already tax village.

[1:06:18] it's I said it before on other issues and it's not going to stop here. I mean so in a moment

[1:06:29] the back of New York across the street here they could say okay we're ready to tear it down

[1:06:36] and we're going to build our apartments there. Just don't need any more apartments. The traffic you

[1:06:45] You can't get out of mammal road and turn right on 17, going through the old village at

[1:06:51] certain times of the day, because cars are just coming down and you can't get out and

[1:06:57] turn.

[1:06:58] And then the last thing we also, I hope, don't need our more traffic lights, but that's

[1:07:03] what you're going to have to have, because you're not going to get out and moving anywhere.

[1:07:07] So what would be a better use for this side of yours, you?

[1:07:19] I don't have a good suggestion of what it could be.

[1:07:24] In my day, that's where I took my kids to drive their car on those parking lots back there.

[1:07:31] But that being said, in my opinion, business is better back there than 102 units.

[1:07:39] is that nobody that I know in this town can afford it.

[1:07:43] So I told you, I am working on this stuff.

[1:07:48] I don't, I don't know.

[1:07:50] I don't know where regular people

[1:07:51] are going to live in this world.

[1:07:53] That is a train or running in ways that you can do to me.

[1:07:58] But I don't think our good long-term result.

[1:08:01] That said, 144,000 square foot buildings

[1:08:05] by normal guidelines suitable for 400 employees.

[1:08:12] Who won't go to our tools or use their groceries?

[1:08:14] That would be a five-star disaster, right?

[1:08:17] If we had 400 employees coming and going from that site on a daily basis

[1:08:24] and on a, you know, kind of a nine-to-five schedule.

[1:08:26] So the problem we confront here is that for all these years,

[1:08:30] this kind of anonymous building has been literally unused and now we're at the circumstance where

[1:08:37] he can't remain so. So what next? I hear all of your concerns. I understand. What does

[1:08:42] you think that only one of those buildings are making? The satin building apparently is filled

[1:08:48] fully occupied. So why not? Not all that actively. Fair to say that. Yeah. I mean it's a 55,000

[1:08:55] of our food building has compared to 100.

[1:08:57] Well, there are people here from their home.

[1:09:01] I don't know any further, so the only other thing I want

[1:09:05] to point out, again, this is neither here,

[1:09:07] there's just the fact that it's the right answer.

[1:09:09] The school district is as compared to the 50-year high

[1:09:17] enrollment, which was 2009, about 250 kids

[1:09:21] down in the last 15 years.

[1:09:23] and has been, as with almost all school districts,

[1:09:26] and these parts have been on a steady,

[1:09:30] under a medic, but steady decline in the totaling role.

[1:09:34] So that obviously is a matter

[1:09:36] that will be teased out in detail by the applicant,

[1:09:40] and we'll all have an opportunity to say,

[1:09:42] hold it, but what about your missing disk?

[1:09:44] You're missing that, and you'll have that opportunity too,

[1:09:46] but that's the metric based on the numbers

[1:09:51] that provide us with wealth.

[1:09:52] U.S. what else could be possibly built there?

[1:09:56] What about something for forgotten people in this?

[1:10:00] For then, if I sold my house today, yes, I'd make a lot of money, but it's not going to do me one bit of good because it's going to cost me twice that to move back into this town. And it's kind of ridiculous. And in my opinion, being that I do have some construction background. The reason these units are going to be built the way that was presented tonight is because you do not make money building smaller units. You make money building smaller units.

[1:10:30] building larger units, taller units, wider units,

[1:10:33] because it's less than building different units.

[1:10:37] But I just think we have to rethink about it as a board

[1:10:41] and really think about changing the zoning codes

[1:10:46] to allow what we really do not need anymore of in this town.

[1:10:51] And that's what does that mean.

[1:10:53] I'm going to point out that there are some contradictions here

[1:10:56] that we should maybe be thinking about

[1:10:58] when we're thinking about this project which is that there is obviously an affordable

[1:11:02] portability problem right where we're living in Westchester County and there's a direct

[1:11:08] correlation between that affordability problem and the housing crisis in New York State right

[1:11:13] there's a significant lack of housing in New York State and I'm not saying this to say that I'm

[1:11:20] supporting in support or not in support of this project in particular but you know if we as a

[1:11:27] community take the position of, we don't want any new development anywhere, then it's logically inconsistent to say that we also

[1:11:36] if I may stand there, we've already been there and we've already done that.

[1:11:40] Well, you already have all of them.

[1:11:43] I'm saying, please, so I'm just saying like there's a logical inconsistency between saying we can't have any development and we want things to be

[1:11:52] that's affordable. And I'm not saying that there's, it's a one-size-fits-all kind of situation.

[1:11:56] And what you're pointing out is that one of the additional problems is far of these

[1:12:01] the kind of units that, you know, will allow affordability locally, right, which is a related

[1:12:06] and separate issue. But I think that that's something that more broadly we need to be thinking about

[1:12:12] in terms of, you know, the problems that we're trying to solve and the kinds of inherent

[1:12:19] contradictions that often exist in the choices that we are forced to make, right?

[1:12:24] Like we all have our kind of dream vision of what we would like for a property like this mine would

[1:12:29] be a part, right? But that would require a very wealthy individual to come in and purchase that property

[1:12:35] and make that investment, right? So we're operating within, you know, these competing forces, right?

[1:12:42] And so I think just as a part of the process, I think it's important to educate ourselves about

[1:12:47] What are all these competing interests that are at play in this situation and that was just one that I wanted to point out

[1:12:55] Okay, but I still stand the ground by saying we're so overpopulated and developed in this small village now

[1:13:03] Is that I made this statement a long time ago and it's come true. We are New York City North

[1:13:09] That's what this village is now, but you can't move in town. You can't drive through town

[1:13:15] Well, pretty soon you won't be able to walk through town and this is our walking village.

[1:13:21] So I thank you for giving me this opportunity to use up there.

[1:13:24] Thanks.

[1:13:25] Thank you.

[1:13:29] Thanks, Tom.

[1:13:30] I frequent a lot of what you said.

[1:13:32] My name is Noelle McElay.

[1:13:33] I live at 44th East Hill Road.

[1:13:37] And Tony and Diego and Bob, I'm sure that you are a wonderful gentleman with great intent in this project.

[1:13:44] But I am tired of the cost of development being born by the villagers and the community members of this town.

[1:13:52] Our quality of life has been severely impacted by the hundreds of units that have been added over the last few years.

[1:13:59] And to add to what Tom said, actually let's make a poll.

[1:14:03] If you've avoided Wheeler Avenue and patroning those stores because trafficking injection is the problem, raise your hand.

[1:14:10] Great, if you can't use a different post office because you can't park at ours because the Uber drivers are blocking it up their wonder, raise your hand.

[1:14:18] Okay, we can't use the facility in an all-around village because it is overpopulated. Traffic is a problem, congestion is a problem.

[1:14:27] I don't know if you're aware, but there's been a research

[1:14:29] in South Viking in town that hit the seventh grade boys

[1:14:33] are loving being out on their bikes.

[1:14:35] And it is such a wonderful thing, except the amount

[1:15:00] And we're going to add 102 more women, 200 plus more to honors. We haven't even fully understood

[1:15:07] the occupancy and the impact of the units that were added. The Chase building hasn't even begun

[1:15:12] construction, and we're contemplating green lighting another project, for residents. It's really

[1:15:18] unfathomable to me, that we continue to have these meetings, and these projects continue to move forward.

[1:15:24] And I want to touch on a couple of things, but it's something that they said that I really agreed with.

[1:15:28] they use the term protect and preserve, right?

[1:15:32] And that is what is so important about this town.

[1:15:35] It is the opportunity that we have to create

[1:15:38] a different type of life for the people who live here,

[1:15:41] something a little bit more quiet,

[1:15:43] something that has green space,

[1:15:45] something that is walkable and charming and quaint, right?

[1:15:49] I learned personally to drive in these parking lots

[1:15:52] because they were unoccupied.

[1:15:55] what you may not want to acknowledge and may not have worked either.

[1:15:58] This is the number two sledding spot in town for all of the town kids.

[1:16:03] You go there on a snowy, there are a hundred kids coming down that hill,

[1:16:07] laughing and giggling. And guess what? All of that goes away with projects like this.

[1:16:12] Okay. The other the other thing that's happened here is we're talking about a hypothetical alternative.

[1:16:17] What if that building gives up? Right.

[1:16:19] What if 144,000 square feet of business space gives up?

[1:16:22] I'm a professional, my husband is a professional. I think a lot of people in this room are finally

[1:16:27] building north of New York City in the Tri-State area that's at 100% occupancy five days a week.

[1:16:33] It doesn't exist. Everybody is working part-time remotely and I would rather gamble on a

[1:16:38] on a business building and the traffic that that would bring in during the week than clogging

[1:16:45] continually our grocery stores, our parking situations, our old village, our school district.

[1:16:50] the 42 number is laughable. I mean, everybody in this room knows 100 units that are at a lower price point in town are going to bring families in and this will maybe be able to accommodate that but that's still a tax on our infrastructure.

[1:17:03] So I really would urge the board to consider really strongly what this brings to the community in terms of positive other than tax revenue, how it impacts our quality of life.

[1:17:14] It should never take 15 minutes to go three-quarters of a mile, and it does.

[1:17:20] It's absurd.

[1:17:22] And so I look forward to further discourse on this and look forward to your thoughts and

[1:17:25] your questions.

[1:17:26] But I think that I can speak for many people who are here in the room, which is with respect,

[1:17:32] we don't want this.

[1:17:33] We don't need more in our town, not in this way and not right now, until we understand what

[1:17:39] we've already have green light is filled.

[1:17:41] So, just to be clear, you'd rather see it from right here, you'd say.

[1:17:45] Absolutely.

[1:17:48] I think that that brings jobs to someone said, what if it's an Amazon facility, at least

[1:17:51] our palmages would get here soon or not.

[1:17:53] Right?

[1:17:53] They're the net positive.

[1:17:55] I don't see a single net positive.

[1:17:57] Talk about traffic.

[1:17:58] Oh, my God.

[1:17:59] I can see a single net positive in this development for the people who live around.

[1:18:05] And I appreciate the time and effort that they took to understand the woodlands and the space,

[1:18:10] but I think that there's a larger community.

[1:18:13] It's not just the fossil residents that are concerned.

[1:18:15] The whole town is impacted by this.

[1:18:18] Okay.

[1:18:19] Thank you.

[1:18:22] Good evening.

[1:18:24] Good evening.

[1:18:25] How are you?

[1:18:26] Dr. Niko, the thong south, those three campers drive this.

[1:18:29] Trustee Asquip, may you share,

[1:18:31] Trustee Benjamin, Trustee Healy.

[1:18:33] I respectfully may you share three camp straps,

[1:18:37] around 31,000 square feet, not 54,000.

[1:18:40] Good evening, and thank you for giving

[1:18:42] the opportunity to speak tonight.

[1:18:44] My name's Nico.

[1:18:45] I'm the owner of Atlas Peat Physical Therapy,

[1:18:47] right here, I can't describe.

[1:18:49] Where a small business has become part of

[1:18:51] the healthcare fabric of a community.

[1:18:53] We help people walk again after surgery.

[1:18:55] We have senior state independence

[1:18:57] so they can remain in their homes.

[1:18:59] We have athletes recover from injuries, young and old

[1:19:01] so they can continue to do what they love.

[1:19:03] When some of this community needs care,

[1:19:05] they come to us because we're one

[1:19:06] of the best of people that can do it, and we're very accessible.

[1:19:10] The proposal to take down this building and replace it does not just change the structure.

[1:19:14] It removes an essential service that we provide, say, a pleasant bill.

[1:19:18] It disrupts the care of patients who rely on us during school, like beginning and ending hours.

[1:19:24] Patients are frequently late due to the immense traffic, or somebody's don't even come

[1:19:27] because they just missed their appointment.

[1:19:29] It hurts other businesses and employees who work here.

[1:19:32] The bill is fully occupied by five independent businesses.

[1:19:34] I don't know what it said, partially out of your bottom line somewhere, but that's

[1:19:38] incorrect information.

[1:19:39] It also places an increased burden, as we saw today, on a local infrastructure without

[1:19:43] adding anything that improves community health, safety, or access.

[1:19:48] Westchester residents already face a shortage of convenient and affordable healthcare options,

[1:19:52] eliminating a physical therapy clinic that serves people every day to make room for more housing

[1:19:57] puts profit above well-being.

[1:20:00] Preserve health care access, and please preserve three campus drive, and preserve the treaties that will be cut down. Thank you for listening and for standing with us to protect what actually matters to the people this town. And thanks for hearing me out today. Thank you. Thank you. My

[1:20:19] name is Ashley Gray, 36 times in the terrorists. I don't live in the village, but my kids go to school year, it's the number one reason. I can move here, welcome to taxes, our school taxes. I don't have any questions. I don't have, I just said that

[1:20:35] some things. No, one is, does the board have to consider it at all? No. So maybe we should all

[1:20:42] shouldn't be here. I mean, because it may be so ridiculously obscene that you can propose it.

[1:20:50] Someone asked the question about, it was very well asked about the price of the homes.

[1:20:57] This is a Fortune 500 company, number two home builder in the country.

[1:21:01] I mean, number 113, 14 to 500 list, countless lawsuits against them for shadow construction

[1:21:11] hasn't been brought up, just Google them and the lawsuits don't be there.

[1:21:16] Why does pleasant will have to be the place for all the additional homes?

[1:21:20] It's a crisis, but why does pleasant will have to be the place that solves the crisis in the

[1:21:27] state?

[1:21:28] If they don't sell, which million dollar homes are not flying off the shelf, they are super expensive to drive them down to all of our homes.

[1:21:41] Yes, is that better? Sorry.

[1:21:44] 14, 500 companies looking for profits, looking to improve the, well, that they're shareholders,

[1:21:50] not the community. We don't need them, just like Wonder Shiningham, a lab to be brought into

[1:21:56] this town, putting out small businesses that are rejected by a billionaire. Why does President

[1:22:02] Bill have to be the testing ground and to solve the crisis, lawsuits, shadow construction,

[1:22:16] I don't have any other questions, but I will say that the more questions there are, the more legitimizes it, getting into details, and I think that's maybe the most important thing.

[1:22:30] we ask these questions about sidewalks and even the number of units. The more we get into it,

[1:22:39] traffic patterns, all of that makes it seem real. And even the way that they worded things as

[1:22:45] it was already happening, there are this many. There is this plan. It's not a future reference.

[1:22:53] They're talking in the present as if it's already underway. And I think that legitimizing it through

[1:22:58] with all of the questions, it should just be about concerns, not asking them what they plan to do

[1:23:03] because it shouldn't be considered. Yeah, that's all I got. What would you prefer at the site?

[1:23:09] One, nothing. Why? I think it being communal. I think the building, we talked about this mayor.

[1:23:17] The buildings that went into Memorial Plaza did nothing for the community. It caused

[1:23:22] was a hell of a situation with traffic,

[1:23:25] it provided nothing, they could have,

[1:23:27] they could have been put to task at park,

[1:23:31] something that would benefit the kids of the town,

[1:23:33] the elderly of the town, the families of the town,

[1:23:37] 42 kids again, laughable, two kids per home in this town,

[1:23:41] do the math, something nature, something park,

[1:23:45] so something healthy.

[1:23:47] Back to this side, what would you rather see at that

[1:23:50] at the site they seek to read about.

[1:23:53] Not them.

[1:23:54] Not a Fortune 500 company looking to profit over,

[1:23:59] but everyone here is built.

[1:24:00] I'm a small business owner.

[1:24:02] I would stand to profit from all those kids moving into town.

[1:24:05] We run an art studio on Wheeler.

[1:24:08] That's the parents of our students,

[1:24:11] how they part, they can't, right?

[1:24:13] They, everyone, double parks, triple parks on Wheeler.

[1:24:16] Now they'll just be filling up the street.

[1:24:19] what should go there? Something that benefits everyone. I think the school system is overburdened.

[1:24:24] I think more space for school. I think the Girl Scout building, Mr. Travesty, we've talked about

[1:24:29] that. That it wasn't purchased and put to use by the town, by the school. So yeah, I think something

[1:24:35] that benefits humanity is what should go there, not these guys.

[1:24:41] People...

[1:24:46] No, I'm just, I mean,

[1:24:49] I'm all for that, but who's going to take for that is the question, right?

[1:24:53] Just don't put anything in like Noel said, take the chance on him.

[1:24:58] But this is going in.

[1:25:00] So, in office, some kind of commercial use in other words.

[1:25:05] There's no space in our schools. There's no space in our schools. We're overburdened. Technically, that's not true. The school population is going down. Just going to point that out. That's something that gets brought up a lot. That's just about see, like, I'm not saying it's a big thing to everybody. It's just what it feels like. Yeah, I think that sometimes they just ask this for a lot of programs. If there's a

[1:25:31] So if anybody else wants to speak now, I assure you that you will have many opportunities.

[1:25:36] So just for starters, as we included in that original posting info at plusbilled-n-y.gov

[1:25:45] is a source for any commentary that goes through a listen and ends up part of the record

[1:25:50] and goes to all of us.

[1:25:51] So that's one place to go.

[1:25:53] We established a tab on the website at plusbilled-n-y.gov and it posted everything on the

[1:25:59] is so far given us and we will post everything that they give us going forward as this analysis

[1:26:05] continues.

[1:26:07] Can I just ask one more?

[1:26:08] Sure.

[1:26:08] Is anyone here front that lives in Boswell's, would like to come?

[1:26:12] It's okay.

[1:26:12] I was very curious.

[1:26:13] Yeah.

[1:26:13] I would like to come speak to those.

[1:26:15] So you know what?

[1:26:16] I'll speak.

[1:26:17] But I don't regret heartless.

[1:26:18] Oh.

[1:26:19] I love this story, folks.

[1:26:20] So you need, if you're going to speak, you need to come and let us know who you are.

[1:26:24] You're at a visit.

[1:26:26] Okay.

[1:26:31] Hi, I'm Amanda Chandler, 33 of that for it. So, it is the next development over from boxes.

[1:26:38] Right. And I would just like to know, and I sent an email, so you've got it all. Yeah.

[1:26:42] The traffic situation of that for is absolutely atrocious. Taking a ride turn on the

[1:26:47] vet for a left turn, it is completely backed up. You went 104 units and there's absolutely no way

[1:26:53] that that traffic study is anywhere close to the number of cars. Absolutely no way.

[1:27:00] I am talking. We are probably looking at a thousand extra cars every morning and every night.

[1:27:05] Think about the Amazon deliveries, think about the groceries, groceries, the landscaping,

[1:27:12] the everything in and out. Those people are not going to be able to take a turn.

[1:27:17] Do you know how fast people drive in the Bedford right now? Do you know how fast?

[1:27:21] Has anybody walked down that road? 42 to 45 miles per hour and we do nothing about it. Nothing.

[1:27:29] it is not safe for our school children to walk down that road and we're going to add all of this

[1:27:35] traffic, all of those trucks, all of that. It is absolutely just uncomfortable and I don't like

[1:27:41] to add to whatever he said. I don't know why we're considering this here. I don't know why we're

[1:27:46] paying consultants out of our tax dollars. So those are paid for, why are those paid for by the

[1:27:51] Okay.

[1:27:52] So just to be clear, speaking from the point of time, no cost to argue about what's the

[1:27:57] evidence that is speaking for myself, the reason we're entertaining it is that the alternatives,

[1:28:04] including the hazard-bright alternatives, have the potential to be to dwarf the traffic impacts

[1:28:09] your concern about.

[1:28:10] Yeah.

[1:28:10] Whether that's realistic to happen is a whole lot of question, but something has to happen

[1:28:15] here.

[1:28:15] We've been living in a specially-charmed zone where this very big building had no impacts.

[1:28:21] So I would suggest, first of all, I would like to know that there are absolutely no

[1:28:25] tax seller and taxed it, any of our citizens for this proposal. I would like that

[1:28:29] company to know. Why are we paying for it to consider this? We can say no. We can say no,

[1:28:36] right now. But I would also say that I think we take the chances. Second, first of all,

[1:28:41] the board, I'm sorry to all of you, you shouldn't have bought this plan a long time ago,

[1:28:45] and we shouldn't even be here.

[1:28:47] But second, have we looked at an open space conservation company?

[1:28:52] Is there a nonprofit out there that would buy it to preserve open space?

[1:28:56] As you know, I've looked into that.

[1:28:59] We're not talking that much money.

[1:29:00] I mean, we're talking a significant amount of money, but it's not that much.

[1:29:04] Many millions of dollars to buy it.

[1:29:06] Yeah, it is not that much.

[1:29:08] We're talking about a million dollars for one of those units to sell.

[1:29:11] And we can't figure out how I just spent three million dollars by the land.

[1:29:14] like that to me is like I think buying the land would grant there are all kinds of options to be

[1:29:20] able to look into these kinds of things have we done that. Here's what I will say about the

[1:29:25] potential cost of the village owning this property demolishing the buildings and creating some other

[1:29:29] use there. That would without question create the biggest tax increase in the history of the village

[1:29:36] of pleasant. We're all concerned me yeah absolutely right in line with the rest of you about the

[1:29:41] affordability of living here, those of us who are lucky enough to already be here and

[1:29:45] likely couldn't afford to be here if we were starting over, are also very much affected

[1:30:00] So, the idea of our buying this is, again, from itself, very much on purpose. Yeah, I would rather see a business there, but I'll also say, honestly, and I'm just going to be very frank, the tone of the questions, the argumentative nature that I feel like all of you are giving all of us speaking. Sounds like you're actually in their side. Rather than there. I hope we don't give that off you. I'm very sorry that you would ever feel that.

[1:30:29] that is not the nature of what we've got.

[1:30:32] I just don't know where to respect.

[1:30:33] I'm very sorry to feel that.

[1:30:34] That is not what we're here for.

[1:30:36] It's not what we're taking our own homes.

[1:30:38] So here to just even listen to this 100% work on my perspective

[1:30:44] is to try to listen to everything.

[1:30:48] All the Facebook comments and hundreds and hundreds of that.

[1:30:50] Absolutely.

[1:30:50] Out of my whole day to just make sure to compile

[1:30:53] as much people could be heard.

[1:30:55] So I hope that you can feel that out there.

[1:30:57] But I will say when you question the people who are speaking

[1:30:59] and argue back with, but not this, but not that,

[1:31:02] but it was not done to the presentation.

[1:31:04] Presenters, it does feel as if.

[1:31:06] Okay, better to stand there.

[1:31:08] It can seem, if I think across that way,

[1:31:10] I'll just for that.

[1:31:11] I interviewed in the moments where somebody

[1:31:16] sent something that requires some explanation.

[1:31:21] And so, for example, the notion that the schools

[1:31:24] are growing is just not a hit.

[1:31:26] So sort of can I if you thought yes, we may be down in population were kids able again to pamphor club this year?

[1:31:35] So that's so there are still issues yeah with the number of students and the needs that those

[1:31:41] students have so it may be that the total number of students is not there have we looked at so right now

[1:31:48] I think we're at a very nice classroom size we're not at a New York City classroom size we don't have

[1:31:56] New York, but Mills, well, maybe they've got the 36.

[1:31:59] We don't have that right now.

[1:32:00] When we talk about capacity,

[1:32:03] are we talking about that as a class advisor?

[1:32:05] Are we talking about the 18th to 20th class?

[1:32:07] It's up for the school, obviously, to comment about their diner.

[1:32:11] All I can tell you is that there are give or take,

[1:32:15] 250 fewer kids than we're 15 years ago.

[1:32:17] Actually, this year fewer kids,

[1:32:19] like quite a few fewer kids than they were 50 years ago.

[1:32:22] Absolutely.

[1:32:22] What does that mean?

[1:32:23] It doesn't necessarily mean anything about what we should do

[1:32:26] today and I can tell you that I lived right in the neighborhood of the schools in half for now

[1:32:30] 40 years. The dynamic that school pick up and drop off is untenable. Well and untenable in a way

[1:32:37] that is is interesting, I say in a kind of horrified way, in a certain sense where we have fewer kids

[1:32:45] but more turmoil about pick up and drop off. So what does that all mean? I mean, you're not

[1:32:50] really good. I'll tell you why because the families have had to move out of the core village area

[1:32:54] because it's unaffordable. So more of them are living in the outskirts. Those children are not

[1:32:59] able to walk, oh wait, because the car's speed down bad for a road and it's not safe. So those

[1:33:04] children cannot walk. They, you know, when we first moved here, I asked the school principal,

[1:33:09] where do you park bikes? She loves it means I had five heads. Now, because they're biking to school,

[1:33:14] they have put a bike rocket. But the parents have to drive them because there is no option for some of

[1:33:20] them to walk. And I'm supposed to say the other thing that no one has mentioned with all of these

[1:33:24] people who come occupy these units, how exactly are they getting to work? If they're not dragging,

[1:33:29] say they're taking the train. Where are they parking? I don't know. Are they driving down there?

[1:33:34] They're not walking from there. Look, I mean, there is a lot of traffic. Trust me, those kids

[1:33:41] are not going to walk from that development. They're not going to walk. It's possible to walk.

[1:33:47] they're not going to. And so that's additional cards, additional draw well.

[1:33:53] Honestly, like, I'm not in favor of that. I would rather it stay commercial.

[1:33:57] I think that the points that everybody else made are absolutely correct.

[1:34:00] You know, take the chance. And yes, it might generate more traffic.

[1:34:04] It could also generate more taps revenue than these homes might.

[1:34:08] You know, I mean, there are things like that that it zones commercial for a reason.

[1:34:14] but it's not zone this.

[1:34:16] I

[1:34:22] don't think we should always start

[1:34:23] time continuing to evaluate this coming to meetings.

[1:34:26] Like I think that we should make a decision.

[1:35:00] My name is Regina Silversmith. I live on Sundays that I'd gotten here. My mom was able to live almost her whole entire life in her home. And my mother-in-law, too. Now, as a person whose child's double school, I'm looking at, well, I have a house. I have a lot of bedrooms. The market is so great. I should sell, but where would I go? And that's what every older person in Pleasantville is asking, where can I go?

[1:35:29] what's as good as Pleasantville? And if there's really not a lot of options, so

[1:35:36] people move out of state, that's ridiculous to me. So, I think, well that's one

[1:35:43] point. The second point about seniors is that Pleasantville's head, well,

[1:35:49] jacks in the back, two generations of Pleasantville, who have lived here. Some

[1:35:53] people have three generations. And the market is such that when I look at my

[1:35:58] house. It's a big asset. It's worth a lot of money now. I'd have to make a choice.

[1:36:04] If there was senior living that was reasonably priced versus I'm not going to sell my house for

[1:36:11] one point something to buy something for one point something and having a higher taxes that doesn't

[1:36:17] make sense for this village. We want a village that has young people, school age people, and old people

[1:36:24] because the older people are doing the volunteer and they're doing the helping.

[1:36:29] They are also helping with grandchildren if they're nearby.

[1:36:33] We are going to have a community that's just people who can afford over a million.

[1:36:38] They park here till their kids are graduated and then they go somewhere else.

[1:36:43] And everything that Pleasantville represents is destroyed.

[1:36:48] So that's my personal issue.

[1:36:50] The second issue is that it's just a clarification.

[1:36:54] So there are three parcels of land.

[1:36:58] Is this correct? Has someone purchased them yet?

[1:37:01] Are they attached as one?

[1:37:04] No, they would be assembled.

[1:37:06] Assembled.

[1:37:07] And the residential site are owned by one entity.

[1:37:14] The old seven engineering building is owned by another.

[1:37:19] and I think there are only two owners on my right, three owners.

[1:37:25] So these three have come together to offer.

[1:37:29] Apparently, I mean, they're selling themselves as a unit.

[1:37:31] That's a private exchange or not involved in the negotiation.

[1:37:35] But do we know the price?

[1:37:36] It's going to be what someone said for those three parcels,

[1:37:41] do we know what they're being asked to, you know,

[1:37:43] The documents, the cell documents are in the file.

[1:37:48] Is there a number?

[1:37:49] It was the seventh of it's deed for the private phone,

[1:37:51] I think, and then 1.7.

[1:37:54] We were one of, I might be pretty incorrect, I'm sure.

[1:37:57] If you were talking about the purchase price.

[1:37:59] Yeah.

[1:37:59] It was in all the documents.

[1:38:00] Let's buy them and sit on it.

[1:38:02] We don't even have a utility.

[1:38:03] It's so for the growth scale, though,

[1:38:04] that's why I didn't have to do nothing, children.

[1:38:07] Do they generate a significant amount of tax revenue right now?

[1:38:12] Not a tremendous amount. The school district gets about $195,000 a year. Village gets, I don't know,

[1:38:18] 70-ish, something like that. So, both of those numbers are less than a third of what they generated

[1:38:23] in the world when back in New York was kind of... Okay, so I think the one here for everyone else

[1:38:30] is for alternatives. I would, you know, just personally, price well, senior center, not center,

[1:38:39] But you know, I mean, yes, that would be a great thing for me. The other thing is, if we do the math, if you're telling me, you know, the core properties together to just sit on is 4,000 4 million, I'm sorry, it's way more than that, is it more than 12?

[1:38:55] I can't say that I don't really want to be, so I can't speak directly.

[1:39:00] And also, could they be, could it be we developed it as possibly one portion would be seen

[1:39:07] and we developed it, one portion would stay commercial.

[1:39:10] We play, let's think outside the box.

[1:39:14] That's what I have to say.

[1:39:15] Thank you.

[1:39:27] I just want to mention, I think we would have many people here to see if we were aware

[1:39:35] of what was going on.

[1:39:36] I learned this and I looked up there several years, Friday after, Friday more, and it was

[1:39:42] because of a Facebook post, which we issued.

[1:39:46] Exactly.

[1:39:47] David posted a statement from all of us.

[1:39:49] And it was the first we heard.

[1:39:51] On point has not discussed this with the residents at all.

[1:39:54] I can't speak to that, but you can talk to your people.

[1:39:57] So therefore, I think a lot more people

[1:39:58] will be concerned about what's going on.

[1:40:00] I can't see how they're giving you something. These minutes are properly possibly and we don't vote. Can we have any answer on that? There's a series of existing access easements in place that that's with rights to access the property right now. Thanks for it to be answered different than would have to work through Fox Woods County and the association, but they don't need to. They can function with the existing. That's why the office buildings

[1:40:30] functioned right now because there's access to it.

[1:40:32] I can't describe his own bipartisan and I believe you want piece of property that's not

[1:40:38] I can't describe along the side of it to make the world larger is a formal garden.

[1:40:43] I think you guys are getting that.

[1:40:45] I don't understand.

[1:40:46] Well, I'll mention.

[1:40:47] I hear you.

[1:40:49] But you need.

[1:40:50] Okay.

[1:40:51] Because I'm in conversation with Foxwood L1R, Foxwood leadership L1R and I assume that

[1:40:59] that it's a conversation that will occur within Foxwood

[1:41:02] with all the spend 254 homes.

[1:41:05] Well, the homeowners are not aware.

[1:41:07] I wouldn't run out of work

[1:41:08] as much as I could in the last couple of days

[1:41:09] for the posters.

[1:41:10] Yes.

[1:41:11] Please come to this meeting because of that face.

[1:41:13] Sorry, but let me just say, if it reaches it all,

[1:41:16] the fact that folks didn't come to this meeting

[1:41:18] and only find out about it on Friday,

[1:41:20] which is, it's absolutely not something we need,

[1:41:27] be concerned about because they will have many opportunities

[1:41:30] to say what they think.

[1:41:31] So believe me, that's not a concern.

[1:41:35] So I just want to make you aware that we didn't know.

[1:41:37] OK.

[1:41:38] I'll be right behind you around.

[1:41:39] All right.

[1:41:40] Thank you.

[1:41:41] Thank you.

[1:41:42] You're welcome.

[1:41:43] Thank

[1:41:45] you.

[1:41:47] Hi, Liz Wilcox and one of you on the Skytop Drive.

[1:41:51] Obviously, I came here tonight because I'm

[1:41:53] close to where the development is proposed to be.

[1:41:55] And I'm concerned about traffic.

[1:41:57] I do want to thank you because I did learn a lot being here tonight, but I do want to push back on this idea of, okay, 15 years ago, the schools were 250 kids more.

[1:42:07] I moved here 10 years ago, and one of the reasons why is because of the school sucks.

[1:42:11] If the school size was larger, I probably wouldn't have moved here.

[1:42:15] In fact, it's cheaper for me to move now to Chapel Quot because arguably a better school system than it is to find out a property in Pleasantville right now.

[1:42:23] I love living here. I love living here because of the size of the town. I love living here because my son knows everyone in this class.

[1:42:31] If we have the type of, you know, just people, noise, children, you know, the additions to the schools, I wouldn't have moved here.

[1:42:40] In terms of the question of what to put in the property, I just don't understand why it has to be something of the size and scale.

[1:42:48] you know, you can still have housing there, but it could be less.

[1:42:56] If, if, let me say, almost, we and all of you will get a detailed school of study that supports or modifies what art has already said and also clarifies the enrollment situation in the very school and over recent years, and then we can all be reviewing that.

[1:43:19] and that will help clarify what the

[1:43:23] financial impact on us.

[1:43:25] Peter, I feel the need to

[1:43:28] all right.

[1:43:30] We don't really have a three five bed for

[1:43:33] 0.0 20 year resident or pleasant all

[1:43:36] hard to believe.

[1:43:38] And I've been on the planning

[1:43:40] commission now for

[1:43:44] six or a matter years.

[1:43:46] Since before COVID could be six

[1:43:48] seven years, you were planning for something, you know, I did. Yeah, um, being on the planning commission,

[1:43:56] I had the opportunity to see development in town from before COVID to the present

[1:45:00] Very, very quick growth. In rapid succession, we went with the loss on Washington, then the 70

[1:45:12] memorial plaza, which was 84 units, I believe, and then right before that was even finished,

[1:45:20] we went right into the development of the property on Depew Street, which I believe

[1:45:25] there's also over 60 units and now the property of the Chase bank has gotten their approvals

[1:45:34] and if that ends up happening that's another 36 plus units. So there's a lot for a village that

[1:45:44] for at least 100 years but we really have that much going on.

[1:45:52] My experience on the planning commission is that by the time it gets to us, these projects,

[1:45:58] these larger projects that we've experienced, some of the people mentioned earlier, they

[1:46:05] do have this feeling of momentum and almost like this manifest destiny that they are going

[1:46:13] to happen and you know we have these public meetings and people show up and they comment and by

[1:46:21] that point we just feel like we

[1:46:25] can try to manage this project but they can develop as of right

[1:46:31] given whether they're applying for a variance or the things that have happened or they've gotten to

[1:46:37] us this is where we are at that point and maybe we have a secret review and we deal that

[1:46:45] certain things regarding secret are not to snuff, and we get hit back with, well, you

[1:46:52] don't have the expertise to make that judgment, and our hands feel tied.

[1:46:59] I'm going on, and really what I want to say is that we have the best intentions as citizens

[1:47:08] of our community, as volunteers, these have show up for a meeting, but we show up on a weekly

[1:47:14] or bi-weekly over years and contribute to our community, but we are civilians. We are not experts

[1:47:26] at what we do, we've got experience, as we move along, but when a Fortune 500 company comes in

[1:47:35] with the incredible resources that they have, we have to acknowledge that we are at disadvantage

[1:47:43] will negotiate with them. They are experts at what they do. They know how to take a piece

[1:47:52] of land and turn it into a profitable venture. They're really good. Thousands of projects.

[1:48:03] Over decades, we don't have that experience. And I really think it's important for us first

[1:48:11] to acknowledge that to ourselves and then do everything we can to level the plane.

[1:48:20] I don't have all the answers on how we can level the plane here but it starts here and it's

[1:48:24] got to start immediately

[1:48:27] because they're a business man. They have their families, they have all

[1:48:35] that going on but they're not from our community. They're here to make a bond and we are here to protect

[1:48:44] community. That's why you guys signed up for this. You guys are not, you know, making deals and

[1:48:49] making millions. So, decidedly not. I just wanted to share that from sort of inside the process,

[1:48:57] I feel like these projects get this momentum going very quickly. And it almost becomes impossible.

[1:49:05] No, it does become impossible to stop.

[1:49:10] And at times, I feel like we have failed and we have a lot of

[1:49:13] projects can move forward that maybe weren't in the best interest of the community.

[1:49:18] And here we have property that is not zoned for residential.

[1:49:23] There's a lot of things that have to happen, but this project to even be viable.

[1:49:28] And I think before we take any step that opens the door to making it viable, we should really

[1:49:35] take our time, hire the necessary experts to counsel us to protect us. Before we open

[1:49:47] the door to something that we then cannot control.

[1:49:52] Thank you.

[1:50:00] We're still learning and taking a lot of things in.

[1:50:05] We're all residents of the community. It can be a little bit intense. These meetings, you know, sitting up here and being on the receiving end. But I just, you know, I don't know what we do or do not convey back to you. But just to make it explicit, you know, we're essentially here to listen to what you have to say also to listen to this petition at this point.

[1:50:28] we're taking the information in and, you know, trying to understand that the best that we can

[1:50:33] ourselves. So I just wanted to make that clear everyone. Well, I'd say I think it's great that

[1:50:38] you are here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, we often, we often are in an

[1:50:47] empty room. So, it's true. All are on Zoom. Or what was the number that went in?

[1:50:54] What are you

[1:50:55] to talk someone who's on his iPhone 73.

[1:51:00] Are you there?

[1:51:01] I've spoken 73.

[1:51:02] And if you are, tell us who you are in the drug business.

[1:51:05] Hi, my name is Christine.

[1:51:06] I, you know, I'm at 140 Foshe Avenue.

[1:51:09] How are you?

[1:51:11] Fine.

[1:51:12] Okay, so I did just want to say a few things.

[1:51:15] I agree that we should do nothing with the space.

[1:51:19] I think that it's building these huge homes

[1:51:24] and large homes is just not good for the community.

[1:51:28] That's number one.

[1:51:30] Number two is, and maybe, you know, I'm not an expert,

[1:51:35] but I also would like to say,

[1:51:36] like are we really solving the housing crisis

[1:51:39] of New York with million dollar homes?

[1:51:43] I mean, from my knowledge,

[1:51:44] I don't think that that's part of the housing crisis.

[1:51:49] I'm just, you know, I'm just speaking,

[1:51:51] I'm a teacher, my husband's school teacher, public school teachers, you know, I don't know

[1:51:57] how we're solving the housing crisis with offering million dollar homes.

[1:52:03] The other question is that yes and one woman spoke, it does come off from the board, unfortunately,

[1:52:12] that this is, it seems like you are not really considering what we are saying.

[1:52:19] That's just an opinion that I have.

[1:52:22] That's just how it seems because of the questioning that goes back and forth and the questioning to the developer.

[1:52:31] The other thing is why do we have to choose this developer?

[1:52:36] Why can't we get creative and look at other options which I really hope that we do?

[1:52:46] The other thing in all of the previous developments that have come up recently, the many, many developments that the Board has approved and the mayor has approved,

[1:52:59] these developers, like Mr. Gray said, they are Fortune 500, billionaires, billion billion billionaires.

[1:53:10] they have no investment other than money in our community. I just want to say

[1:53:19] that again. They have nothing that they want to do to our community other than

[1:53:26] profit and they're going to profit big time. As our board members can you

[1:53:34] please advocate and if this goes through, which I do not want it to, I do not. Can we save a portion

[1:53:44] of those acres that we're selling for something for the community? Someone mentioned senior housing

[1:53:53] or a senior center, a recreation center. Every one of these developments goes up and there's a profit

[1:54:02] it, but it just doesn't seem to trickle down to us.

[1:54:05] I know it builds revenue.

[1:54:07] I understand that, but maybe we could push a little bit more considering that these

[1:54:14] are Fortune 500 companies, that they're really looking at our land, like why do they want

[1:54:19] to live here?

[1:54:20] Maybe, you know, what is it?

[1:54:23] So those are some of my questions, and I do, I know we're going to have further discussions

[1:54:30] like this? And will you be able to answer specifically the questions like are we looking at other

[1:54:37] options or is this the only developer that we're looking at? We didn't choose the developer. This

[1:54:46] is a developer that has cut a deal with the property owners and come to us. We own this land,

[1:54:51] we don't control it. And so that part of it is not our choice. The decision to permit the

[1:55:00] There's only more to modify it in some way is our choice. The choice that it's not like we have any control of its property. We don't just vote no. Right now. Right now. All right, is that you? But and see, I do have to say, though, that is where it seems like you guys just are throwing your hands up. We don't have any control. We don't, you know, we're doing this to save the housing crisis. It just seems like we're not like nobody's we're not.

[1:55:29] Yeah, Christy, we're not from our heads at all.

[1:55:33] Okay, so are we going to, okay, so they're the only people

[1:55:38] that have come forward and proposed this.

[1:55:41] There's no other people have, as I said earlier,

[1:55:44] many people have kicked tires of his project,

[1:55:48] settlement with the seven site and some without it.

[1:55:53] This is the only one that has come forward

[1:55:55] with a request to us to proceed either for any perks.

[1:56:04] So then the board or the village, we could vote no,

[1:56:11] and we'd still be okay. We'd still all be okay.

[1:56:16] We could vote no on the zoning,

[1:56:19] and then the zoning would stay as it is.

[1:56:22] and then the property owner would have the option of selling it to somebody who uses it for commercial use,

[1:56:29] if such a person presented themselves. That's the choice, basically.

[1:56:33] Let's help them take a loss. I don't know how unfortunate 500 cars need to be,

[1:56:37] and they actually just have to say it here. But we hear you think, go on.

[1:56:41] All right, Bill, on the hand, I hear you, are you there?

[1:56:43] A lot to come. You there, Bill?

[1:56:49] Can you hear me?

[1:56:50] Yes, we can.

[1:56:56] in the day and the Dodgers are losing, by the way, to the blue jays of any of the centrists.

[1:57:04] Does the developer, Lennar Homes, are they representing?

[1:57:07] Hold on, stop, stop, stop. We've got to get your name and address from the file. We know we have it, but say it, please.

[1:57:12] 66 Gradle Claim, pleasant and New York.

[1:57:15] Okay, great. Thank you.

[1:57:16] Is the developer, Lenore Holmes, representing themselves as a contractor, Vendee, on the

[1:57:23] property now or not?

[1:57:25] I leave that to Tony D'Alene.

[1:57:27] Why would you guys not know that?

[1:57:30] You have not heard of your contract, Vendee.

[1:57:32] Okay, so they have not made any purchase of this property up to this point.

[1:57:37] So solely based on the fact that they get the zoning change, they would become much more

[1:57:42] interested in developing this.

[1:57:45] So, what I believe, and they will correctly if I'm wrong, is that they have negotiated

[1:57:51] with the owners of all these parcels and come to an agreement that would be contingent

[1:57:57] upon them gaining a zoning change, and that if they gain that zoning change, the purchase

[1:58:08] just by that would be considered. There's a, I'm

[1:58:16] not pretty

[1:58:16] to the terms of the contract, but that's usually the way these things

[1:58:18] work. Okay. All right. Thank you, Bill. What, yeah.

[1:58:22] That was, that was question number one. Number two, number two. Are any of

[1:58:26] the proposed roads in this? Are they going to be built to village

[1:58:29] standards? Are they going to be dedicated to the village? What's,

[1:58:32] what's the plan for that? So, so they will absolutely be built

[1:58:36] to village standards and because Foxwood originally was never built to

[1:58:42] village standards yet they came back to the village subsequent to it being

[1:58:46] produced instead that they needed access for municipal services. So what we don't

[1:58:51] own the roads in Foxwood in the we don't know campus tribe we get to our own tennis

[1:58:55] courts across an easement so they're there there are a bunch of other

[1:59:00] interlocking issues here including where our infrastructure would go if this

[1:59:05] project where to happen as well as very significant stormwater issues that we have for a

[1:59:10] generation been trying to grapple with. So that will all be part of this review going forward.

[1:59:15] But no project will be accepted without roads that meet the standards that our bill

[1:59:23] engineer requires and also that the fire department extends.

[1:59:28] Third question, are there any roads proposed to go through the...

[1:59:32] I mean, yeah, I'm trying to think of the gentleman that was speaking earlier, uh, Mr.

[1:59:37] Oh, shoot.

[1:59:37] Who was it?

[1:59:38] It was excellent.

[1:59:39] The guy that's been here.

[1:59:41] He's older than me, I think.

[1:59:42] Tom Rooney.

[1:59:44] Yes.

[1:59:44] His neighborhood.

[1:59:45] Are there road?

[1:59:46] I noticed from the map that they showed.

[1:59:48] It looks like there's two dead-end roads that are pointing towards that development.

[1:59:52] Are there proposed realistic?

[1:59:53] They have to go into that development?

[1:59:55] that the John Meyer people are probably in a better position, too.

[2:00:00] Common terms is the night, but the seven property includes a weird kind of a strip of property that goes straight down a steep hill adjacent to the aqueduct right away, and ends at Washington Avenue. But it is very steep, and I believe too narrow for any potential vehicular use. Would John Meyer, Diego is agreeing with what I just said.

[2:00:30] So yes, that's accurate. There's no other driveway connections. It's only to campus drive and then emergency access to Mandel. There's no other connections than the other.

[2:00:42] Right.

[2:00:43] So the carries subdivision or the carry call the sec is that's going to be cited as an ingress or.

[2:00:50] No, of course, it is not.

[2:00:54] And why would that not be?

[2:00:56] That's not what's proposed.

[2:00:58] And to my knowledge, those parcels are not part of the purchase that let R6 to make.

[2:01:09] There was a gentleman from the planning commission that spoke earlier.

[2:01:14] Henry, he was sitting there, I think next to Jonathan there.

[2:01:18] Excellent point of view.

[2:01:20] Yes.

[2:01:20] I appreciate his points.

[2:01:24] You guys need to get professional help to get this project looked at, because I think

[2:01:30] as he can to lead pointed out, you need those resources.

[2:01:35] This is not something that is hard.

[2:01:40] The planning commission went through seven years of development on the country club.

[2:01:45] I think he went bankrupt twice.

[2:01:47] It all was mostly due to ingress and egress, and that is a beautiful complex.

[2:01:53] People hated it.

[2:01:54] In fact, Austin Camp Riello was the biggest advocate against it, and he was on a planning board

[2:01:59] at that point.

[2:02:00] So I know he sits on a ZBA, so I assume now he's going to enjoy this type of thing, but

[2:02:05] I don't think his decision is going to be blinding here.

[2:02:08] So anyway, I appreciate your help.

[2:02:09] I'm sorry to take your time.

[2:02:11] So those are my only questions for now, but there are many, many more.

[2:02:15] Appreciate it. I just want to respond to the professional assistance. We have professional

[2:02:21] assistance sitting here in the form of obviously Jennifer Gray, our legal counsel from KVP.

[2:02:26] And Susan Favate was a principal, I think. Is that correct? At BFJ Planning in New York City,

[2:02:34] which has assisted us over the years on significant projects and has really

[2:02:42] tremendously broad experience in the region. So they also have access to all

[2:02:48] kinds of experts in each category reaching out both your BFJ and their

[2:02:54] many allied companies in the Perkins Estman

[2:02:57] and another universe, the Milky Way, whatever.

[2:03:03] So, we do have traffic consultants within the form,

[2:03:09] urban design, and they have come in at various points,

[2:03:12] if so needed.

[2:03:13] Right. So, I do feel as though we're well represented,

[2:03:18] which isn't to say we all should ask our questions,

[2:03:22] and we will then hold everybody to a high standard,

[2:03:25] including folks that consult with us.

[2:03:28] Thanks very much.

[2:03:30] All right, Julie Edwards.

[2:03:31] I see you there. Are you there?

[2:03:36] Yep, I'm here. Sorry.

[2:03:38] This is Julie Edwards, McDowell.

[2:03:41] Yes. Can you hear me?

[2:03:44] Sorry, I was there in person and then I had to come home and

[2:03:48] put a child to bed and log back on.

[2:03:50] That's how passionately I feel about hearing what you all had

[2:03:54] to say. So I'll just echo the thanks for being transparent

[2:03:57] parent and David and folks for posting and making us aware that this session was happening.

[2:04:03] I know I missed some of the first part of the public comment.

[2:04:06] So if I'm repeating things, I'm just going to beg forgiveness.

[2:04:11] It feels like some of what we are confronting is the worry about what could happen if we

[2:04:18] don't take this as kind of like our, you know, first and best shot.

[2:04:23] But I'd be really interested in kind of learning more about or helping paint the picture of what other development could look like so that we're actually making a decision that's not based on a fear that is not shaped.

[2:04:40] I know we've talked a lot about does it stay as commercial campus office and that could cause tons of traffic.

[2:05:00] I'd love for us to as a community understand the different scenarios laid out. That's just like thing one and if you you've chatted about that already I apologize. I'd also love to talk about the methodologies that we use for our traffic studies because I think anyone that lives in this town that has heard that we've done traffic studies for x, y, and z also exists in this town and knows that whatever traffic studies or data we're using is not necessarily visualizing and what all

[2:05:29] of us are experiencing in our cars or on the streets.

[2:05:34] I don't think we're accounting for deliveries

[2:05:36] for all of the incremental traffic.

[2:05:40] So I just asked that we maybe expand

[2:05:42] or think differently.

[2:05:43] I know you talked about the professional services

[2:05:45] that our lawyer and consultants have.

[2:05:48] I don't believe that our current traffic studies are adequate

[2:05:50] or giving us a real full picture,

[2:05:52] especially around peak times.

[2:05:54] And it would be good to really dive into that

[2:05:58] because we can make data say whatever we wanted to say and right now we've been using it to say

[2:06:03] that it's not going to cause a ton of traffic and I think we all know that that's actually not true

[2:06:08] because we all drive here and then I just love to kind of just reinforce some of the points that

[2:06:13] others have made which is I would love to see some form of community kind of give back in some

[2:06:20] of these proposals and I'd also love to see the density seriously lessened. This feels like a lot

[2:06:28] of properties at a price point that it doesn't seem a lot of people want and it seems from the

[2:06:33] community outreach that a lot of us don't want it either. So I look forward to participating further,

[2:06:40] but those are my thoughts. Please don't do it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Shirley.

[2:06:45] Thanks for logging in after you. You had to go home. All right. There are no more raised hands and

[2:06:52] zoom? Any further comment from anybody? The board?

[2:06:56] Yeah. I feel

[2:07:01] what people are saying here and I'm glad that we came to say it.

[2:07:06] I wish I had the certainty of either the developers on one side or the people in this room on the other side

[2:07:14] because if I did this would be a very simple process. But I feel a lot of concern is a lot of worries.

[2:07:20] And I also, I have worries for the village about the way that we're tipping into a wealthy community.

[2:07:28] And I'm concerned about the housing stuff, I really am.

[2:07:32] So the only thing I would say is, please keep engaging us.

[2:07:37] I think you're pushing us to be better, like, to completely understand the alternatives,

[2:07:45] It is to completely understand the economic model for the developers to understand the implications

[2:07:51] of the zoning and what we could do to adjust zoning, because there may be something here

[2:07:58] between what's presented and a more of an office building that could be rebuilt as a

[2:08:08] right that we probably wouldn't like what had happened that couldn't actually help us and you know

[2:08:16] I would like to at least explore that before giving up on the process. I understand the anger

[2:08:22] I understand the I was responsible for getting some of you into the room but I honestly because

[2:08:30] it's a healthier process the way it often happens where you should have come in the middle of the

[2:08:35] stream, and then you get that feeling of inevitability. This is day one, right? So it really is in our

[2:08:43] control how this moves forward. And if this is going to happen, they have to make a profit, but it has to be

[2:08:51] something good for the village too, and has to be better than our other alternatives. And that would be my standard for any

[2:08:59] build that I made. Thank you. I think for me, part of, you know,

[2:09:04] comment that we made on why are you maintaining this. To me, it's

[2:09:09] important to understand systems and how things work. So I, myself,

[2:09:13] along my second term here, and I'm relishing next year, you know,

[2:09:17] yet had any kind of experience as to what is his own change? How

[2:09:20] does that happen? Specifically, what are we looking for? So for me,

[2:09:24] this was very important. I specifically wanted to see this process

[2:09:27] is to understand how it is.

[2:09:29] It doesn't mean that I'm for it or against it.

[2:09:32] I just want to understand it.

[2:09:34] As a resident, I've been in the other,

[2:09:35] I've been literally where you are.

[2:09:37] I was living on Maple Hill, essentially,

[2:09:40] on Bedford Road when the benchmark project came up.

[2:09:42] And it was a sign that this board at that time

[2:09:45] voted against it.

[2:09:46] So I've seen that happen.

[2:09:47] These things do happen.

[2:10:00] Without even considering it, I think doesn't make any sense. It doesn't also sway that we're looking at it that way or we are on their side. It's understanding what exactly how does the petition happened. When we spoke about this, all I can think it was as a kid, I'm going to turn it. So I love how bill becomes a law. It's understanding where does it start and where we are right now is that. And you know, we have a lot of professionals that are helping us. And it's important to understand these things. So I do think it's important to have this meeting.

[2:10:30] understanding the rest of the studies that do come from this, it's going to help us make

[2:10:35] other decisions, the moratorium that we had helped me understand a lot of things then.

[2:10:39] I want to update us to what's happening with those studies, and I want to know also what

[2:10:42] other studies can we do, and these studies that are now working, why aren't they're working,

[2:10:47] what things are we missing?

[2:10:49] Because I've been with the development, these things are going to come up in the future many,

[2:10:52] many times.

[2:10:53] So why not attack it?

[2:10:54] And it doesn't, like I said, it doesn't mean that we're citing the one.

[2:10:57] I think it's us informing ourselves and more importantly informing the community.

[2:11:02] There are so many people that don't even have a clue that this area exists in Pleasanton.

[2:11:06] And so it's important to note that and put it out there.

[2:11:09] And that's the reason why we're incredibly transparent about this.

[2:11:12] You guys are all in step one on this to see this.

[2:11:14] So hopefully that's, I think, the message that I would like for the community, everyone that's

[2:11:20] in the present time to understand that we are trying to be year-to-person.

[2:11:24] We are trying to be your boys.

[2:11:26] We are trying to get as much information as we can for everyone, and that we're not

[2:11:30] siding with anyone. We are just trying to get as informed as you are. So the thing for

[2:11:34] me, that's my message. There isn't anything about that. The questions that we're asking

[2:11:38] is essentially plain levels of advocates because those questions are important to be said.

[2:11:42] It doesn't necessarily mean that we side with anyone in particular, but it's important to

[2:11:46] have this kind of dialogue. And I think this homie makes us better in the way that we govern

[2:11:50] and make our decisions. That's just my point of view. We're all at this whole procedure today.

[2:11:57] I appreciate that thought. I just wanted to add that there were some sort of broad

[2:12:00] level issues that were brought up in this session about what kind of community do we want to be?

[2:12:06] You know, what do we want to prioritize and what ways can we improve our community? And I appreciate

[2:12:12] those kinds of thoughts and those sort of, you know, how can we work together and think creatively.

[2:12:17] So I hope that this can be kind of an opportunity also to do more of that.

[2:12:22] And if you see that there's a particular issue or particular area of life in our village that you feel passionate about,

[2:12:29] that maybe you think about getting more involved with that.

[2:12:32] I mean, you know, we are all, you know, essentially in the same position as you, right,

[2:12:38] we're your neighbors and your, you know, fellow parents and so on.

[2:12:42] And, you know, are trying to work within the parameters, you know, having pleasant,

[2:12:49] there'll be more affordable is going to be, you know, a difficult solution to arrive at,

[2:12:55] right? When we live in Westchester County, just north of New York City.

[2:12:59] But are there creative things that we can do to, you know, move the needle out or so slightly

[2:13:04] in that direction, those kinds of things? So, I hope that this also provides an opportunity

[2:13:09] to think about some of those broader issues and what it is that we would like for the future

[2:13:15] of Pleasantham. So I just wanted at one point that it was triggered by what these guys said.

[2:13:24] Henry said we were sleepy for 100 years and I get why he was saying that and I've been here for

[2:13:29] 40 of them.

[2:13:32] But it's worth noting that there have been and someone else said on Facebook this weekend

[2:13:36] that you know these things always get proved why did we even can why did we even talk about

[2:13:40] our wasting number and so uh Foxwood which evolved in in the 70s required zoning changes

[2:13:51] 254 units I believe and it was a a fraught conversation before before my time a black

[2:13:59] It's like a conversation because

[2:14:09] it was such a significant change and such a transition

[2:14:13] from, you know, this world that had once been 500 acres of one of the wealthiest men in

[2:14:20] the nation eventually evolving into different pieces.

[2:14:25] In the 80s Bill Lanahan made reference to the country club, 66 townhouses I think, something

[2:14:34] I'm about right on that. Also a law brought and complicated a conversation. And then all

[2:15:00] This church property that Maple Hill and Bedford Road, I will say having been the person who

[2:15:08] passed the deciding vote against Benchmark, in a vote that actually passed three to two,

[2:15:16] but failed to receive a supermajority. There were plenty of very good arguments on both

[2:15:22] sides of that issue has this painfully true on so many things. But I can tell you in sort

[2:15:28] of mouth to Facebook when I saw this person say it doesn't matter, these things always go through

[2:15:34] to say. And if you're talking as I hope you've heard, not a bunch of people who are trying not to hear

[2:15:41] you, not a bunch of people who are trying to push back, you know, guess what you say, but also to

[2:15:46] maintain a level playing field for all of us. So we share a common set of

[2:15:52] understandings about the facts. And obviously there are all kinds of things that

[2:15:56] are our our our interpretations of the facts and the implications for the

[2:16:02] future. All that is up for grabs. But I do think as I as I as I hope we have made

[2:16:10] clear. Perhaps not that there are five people who are here all for the same positive reasons,

[2:16:18] all with different backgrounds, all with different points about individual aspects of this button.

[2:16:23] Those many voices, and there are many voices, will all be heard through this process.

[2:16:28] With that, I think we've said enough on this subject, Rick, and I said we invite all of you to stay

[2:16:36] for resolutions 3.30 to 3.30, which you're welcome to share your comments.

[2:16:43] Thank you.

[2:16:44] Thank you.

[2:16:46] All right.

[2:16:48] Let me share my screen.

[2:16:50] I remember how.

[2:16:52] All right.

[2:16:54] I know.

[2:16:56] I know.

[2:16:57] I know.

[2:17:00] I know.

[2:17:03] I know.

[2:17:05] I know.

[2:17:06] I know.

[2:17:09] Okay, three thirty balls.

[2:17:13] Okay.

[2:17:14] Thank you.

[2:17:18] The board of trustees give way.

[2:17:20] For the minutes of Erno meeting, how about two or 15 to 2020 glasses.

[2:17:24] Is there a second?

[2:17:26] I may take that to comments or coaches to the news.

[2:17:30] Okay, I know.

[2:17:32] I motion a group.

[2:17:33] Three thirty one.

[2:17:33] currently nest with them.

[2:17:36] Resolved with the Board of Trustees hereby proves the following budget amendments for fiscal year ending in 2026.

[2:17:42] This list is below budget transfer of the general fund $2894 from contingency to senior inhibition supplies,

[2:17:50] $13,700 of contingency to sanitary sewers outside services,

[2:17:55] is appropriate fund balance of the general fund,

[2:17:59] $24,565 transferred to capital for engineering,

[2:18:03] flood mapping, and traffic constant.

[2:18:06] Is there a second?

[2:18:09] That traffic common study, as I mentioned last week,

[2:18:13] is looking at nano-having and also hopper streak,

[2:18:16] further to that conversation, more in full suit,

[2:18:19] all in favor.

[2:18:20] I know, should I prove 332, David?

[2:18:23] Okay, there's all over the trustees here by proves the abstract for payment of claims

[2:18:27] for warrants one, two, seven, two, five, and EBF one, two, seven, date, October 27th, 2025,

[2:18:34] or fiscal year ending, 2026 from general fund, $280,000, $49.05 from the water fund, $39,000,

[2:18:43] $39.10 and capital fund, $270,000, $42.05, refugees fund, $23,747.64 for total

[2:18:53] of 563,278 dollars and 74 cents the invoice entries are attached.

[2:19:01] Is there a second?

[2:19:02] Thank you.

[2:19:03] So that number includes some big expenses insurance who are paying for the backup, the new water

[2:19:10] truck and the lack of the playground bill of the federal capital.

[2:19:14] All in favor.

[2:19:15] I'm adding motion to prove you have made 333.

[2:19:20] Resolved at the Board of Trustees hereby authorizes the recreation superintendent to hold the

[2:19:24] annual holiday lighting ceremony in the Memorial Plaza Civic Space on Sunday to 7 or 7 at

[2:19:31] 6 p.m.

[2:19:35] Sorry, we're on Sunday to 7 p.m., let's expand their part, close the north side of the Memorial

[2:19:40] Plaza parking lot, according to the Z-Boat Pacific Space from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. and further

[2:19:46] The result of the Board of Trustees authorizes the police chief post their working signs

[2:19:50] in advance of the event, and to tow all of the vehicles available from this temporary

[2:19:54] So, is there a parking restriction?

[2:19:55] So, is there a second?

[2:19:57] So, do we...

[2:20:00] The Director Department has lined up a rental of a temporary ice removal. That's right. It's not actually ice, but it means... Sorry, thank you for your time. I don't know. Maybe I said, then what?

[2:20:14] Good afternoon, because it affects my anxiety. Sorry, thank you for your time, I don't remember. So anyway, I changed for a usual tradition, but a new element added to it. Thank you to the Director's Organ, sir. I know that we talked about this, but reminding you what would happen to the holidays.

[2:20:29] the holiday tree.

[2:20:31] So it's still there.

[2:20:33] It is under.

[2:20:36] It's under.

[2:20:37] I hope not hospice care.

[2:20:39] It's under the Charlie Brown.

[2:20:41] It's under accelerate there.

[2:20:43] But it's not.

[2:20:44] It's not doing as well as we hold.

[2:20:47] But I will also say a new tree is planted downtown.

[2:20:50] And and we're going to like the old tree as well.

[2:20:53] But the among the advantage of going back to the city space is.

[2:20:58] not only can we do this temporary ice cream thing,

[2:21:02] but we also have power there and we can avoid

[2:21:06] that Jordan generators to drive the lights

[2:21:08] and we don't have the recording.

[2:21:11] We'll have it very, yes, yes we will.

[2:21:13] Also the Chamber of Commerce

[2:21:15] sort of ones that are sponsored in half of it.

[2:21:17] Just that the ice cream is about $5,000,

[2:21:19] so Chamber is donating half of that.

[2:21:21] Okay, thank you.

[2:21:23] So just to be clear, it requires special skates, right?

[2:21:26] These are not regular skates.

[2:21:27] is that they better provide these things.

[2:21:30] For four hours, they're going to have people

[2:21:33] that are working there, or people that are working there.

[2:21:36] It'll be a couple of hours.

[2:21:38] They also have music that comes with a whole stage.

[2:21:41] I swear, so that'll be kind of a line

[2:21:44] where we're trying to do kind of like a whole shopping day

[2:21:47] as well as businesses and getting them involved

[2:21:49] with specials, things like that.

[2:21:50] That essentially culminates to six o'clock,

[2:21:53] starting the ceremony, like you usually

[2:21:56] did where there's a band, we'll be music, we're going to get probably middle school choir

[2:22:02] or a Girl Scouts choir, and then we'll end with the lighting happening at 7 p.m.

[2:22:08] So we have all in favor.

[2:22:10] Hi, hi.

[2:22:11] Hi, most should have proved, 334, my people.

[2:22:16] Resultant Board of Trustees, see if I assess the Resonation of Soul, Ibarra, the Recreation

[2:22:20] System, John Class, 269, Panther Club, in fact, they're about 12 or 25, 2025.

[2:22:24] 25 is there second? Second. All in favor. I'm motion approved and it cold.

[2:22:30] Resolved with the Board of Trustees here by authorizes the Village Administrator.

[2:22:34] Sign an agreement with the County of Westchester for the purposes of the Westchester County Stop

[2:22:39] DWI troll data master project with a contract and now not to exceed $8,400 with a term

[2:22:45] beginning January 1st, 2020, and ending December 31st, 2030. Is there a second? Second.

[2:22:51] This aligns before we've done it past. That's correct. All in favor. Hi. Hi. We're going to be with David 336.

[2:22:58] Result Board of Trustees hereby accepts the donation to the Clinton Street Center from Jonathan Cunningham from the amount of $150 for the purpose of senior meals. Thank you Jonathan. Is there a second?

[2:23:09] I can report that Jonathan received 150 out of 5M for his photographic work for the music festival and he is returning it to us in this formal and

[2:23:20] favorite. Thank you Jonathan Yanney said that changes the loss on the music best for

[2:23:27] by a lot. Yeah, we are.

[2:23:29] I was on the board of trustees here by the first request from Gus Chauvin, one underneath

[2:23:34] Charles Lane, to hold a black party and there I close Charles Lane at one hundred eight

[2:23:39] Charles Lane from Congress, to Crawford Street on Saturday that I'm on first.

[2:23:43] 2025 and we'll learn to learn how to do that.

[2:23:46] is there a second ratified by the end of your all in favor. I have a high ocean proof. And the last

[2:23:55] blessedly, 338 back to 4, whereas each year the villager pleasant over by the snow plight an isromal

[2:24:02] rosewood village and result. But more to trustees here, I have foods that snow and ice agreements have

[2:24:07] stand from 2025-2026 season. Is there a second? So this is the agreement for the state

[2:24:13] reimbursement of our plowing of their, that is correct. Modest though it is, that's right.

[2:24:21] You got to take what you can get. All right, any further comments from the public on any subject?

[2:24:28] We check in Zoom if there is an attendee to their left hand. Someone has raised their hand.

[2:24:37] Are you there? I am. What did you have to say? Hello, Miura 3 Hazel Brode.

[2:24:45] I'm actually message a listener to say this, but I'm still on, so when we met earlier,

[2:24:51] I forgot to ask that the village announced that the CAC is co-sponsoring a talk about trees

[2:24:58] This coming first.

[2:25:00] I'm about to out our audience is not just good. Well, maybe they'll watch tomorrow. This Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. This is the end of this. Yeah. The amount of positive. Alright. That's it. That's great. Thank you for that. And thank you for getting that going. Well, yeah, all right. Any comment from anyone before we have a motion to go to executive session to discuss personnel and tractual matters in real estate. So moved. Second. Well, a favor.

[2:25:29] Hi, thank you all. Long night for any of you who are still among us. We appreciate it.

[2:25:34] More come on the subject of an art for sure. We are going to depart.

[2:25:39] to the federal session.

Village Board of Trustees Regular

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