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Okay, thank you. I'll call this meeting
to order. I'd like to welcome everyone
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to [clears throat] the January 13, 2026
regular scheduled Portf City Council
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meeting at Portland City Hall and Meinda
Hartlo Chambers. Please stand for the
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pledge of allegiance and moment of
silence reflection for those protecting
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us for America.
I aliance
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» to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it
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stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
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for all.
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» Thank you. You may be seated.
>> Will the clerk please call the role?
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» Beth Gman,
>> present. Richard Morgan
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» present.
>> Avery Robinson.
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» Kathy King here. Pat Hovus here. Jerry
Trollley
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» here.
>> Thank you. Um council, you previously
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received the December 23rd, 2025 regular
meeting minutes and the January 7, 2026
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special meeting minutes. Do I have a
motion to approve the minutes?
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» Madam President, make a [snorts] motion
that we approve both minutes.
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» Thank you. Do I have a second and a
second? Thank you, Miss Hoves. I have a
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motion by Mr. Troy, second by Miss Hoves
to approve the December 23, 2025 regular
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meeting minutes and the January 7th,
2026 special meeting minutes. All in
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favor say I.
>> Oppose the same sign. Thank you. Motion
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carries and the minutes are hereby
adopted and approved. So chair notes
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certification has been made regarding
the compliances with the rules and
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notifications of this meeting. guest
presentation this evening. We have fire
[1:46]
chief Brian Gutman. Would you like to
stand?
[1:50]
» Are you ready for it now?
>> Yes.
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» All right.
You're right. To
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uh I want to start off first by saying
thank you council for having me tonight.
[2:01]
There have been a lot of questions and
comments throughout the community on
[2:05]
this upcoming levy and uh a lot of
concerns. So, what I want to do tonight
[2:10]
is just kind of clear the air and give
you guys like the journey, so to speak,
[2:14]
of your fire department, where we were
when the last levy was put in place, why
[2:18]
things changed, and the reasons for the
funding that um we're requesting going
[2:23]
into the future. So, to start, we're
going to have to rewind all the way back
[2:27]
to 2006.
The levy that just ended last fall was
[2:32]
initiated that year that put in place
within the city of Port Clinton a
[2:37]
private EMS agency that covered all
medical calls. I'm going to refer those
[2:42]
as EMS, emergency medical services. Uh
the levy was able to pay for that and
[2:48]
also pay for what at the time was a
volunteer department. We had a part-time
[2:53]
chief and then we were staffed by holy
volunteers. That's the only responders
[2:58]
that we have within Port Clinton. Now, I
want to define what a volunteer is in
[3:03]
Port Clinton. It is not somebody who
does this freely. This is a paid on call
[3:08]
position. So, from 2006 up to present
day, the volunteers of the department
[3:14]
will actually when toned out during
emergency leave their job, leave their
[3:20]
sleep, leave their family, come to the
fire station and help mitigate that
[3:23]
emergency. They will get paid to do so.
Usually the rates around $20 an hour,
[3:28]
give or take, depending on the
department. Um, so I wanted to clear the
[3:33]
air on that that they are not they're
considered paid on call volunteers.
[3:38]
Since that's so much to say, I'd like to
just simply refer to them as volunteers
[3:41]
for the duration of the evening, if
that's okay. So again, back in 2006, the
[3:46]
1.9 mill levy was put in place. It gave
the fire department $240,000 per year to
[3:52]
operate. Back then, that was
sustainable. back then that paid for the
[3:56]
private EMS that covered medical calls
and that paid for the volunteer services
[4:00]
that would come in to take care of the
fire calls. Again, I want to define what
[4:05]
fire calls are as I'm going to be
referring to this quite often throughout
[4:09]
the um tonight. A fire call is not a
structure fire. Structure fire falls
[4:15]
within the term fire call, but back in
2006, there were about 130 fire calls
[4:21]
that year. There were not 130 structure
fires that year. A fire call can
[4:26]
encompass structure fires, motor vehicle
accidents with injury, motor vehicle
[4:31]
accidents with spills, elevator
enttrapments at hotels, somebody's smoke
[4:35]
detector simply beeping. Anybody that
deems it an emergency and calls 911 and
[4:40]
asks for the fire department is
considered a fire call. So, just so we
[4:44]
don't have any more confusion going for
it, I'm going to refer to fire calls,
[4:47]
which encompasses all of those um
previous and more. Pretty [snorts] much
[4:52]
we go there whenever the cops can't
figure stuff out. So, [clears throat]
[4:57]
uh that was what was set in place in
2006 and that seemed to have worked up
[5:02]
until 2018.
That was the year that we had our
[5:06]
catalyst and we came across a crossroads
that we had to make a decision.
[5:11]
The private EMS agency that was covering
all of our EMS calls in the area wanted
[5:16]
to increase their annual rate by 600%.
We could not cover that under the
[5:22]
current levy. It was not possible. We
were going to have to double what we
[5:26]
were asking the community to pay for
services. So, we took it upon ourselves
[5:31]
to transition into a full-time what's
called combination fire department,
[5:37]
which mean that we paid personnel to sit
at station 24 hours a day. This is a
[5:42]
full-time job. They would be there 24
hours a day and respond to emergency.
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They were responding to our EMS calls at
that time. we still had volunteers, thus
[5:55]
making it what's called the combination
department because that had full-time
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and volunteers.
Um, so that was the model that we were
[6:03]
looking into. The options at that time
was to go to the community, double the
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levy that we were asking for at the time
from based on 2006
[6:12]
or simply continue with the funding that
we currently had with that levy and just
[6:17]
transition over into that model. we
decided to not go to the community and
[6:22]
we made that transition over to that
full-time comm um fire department. We
[6:27]
were able to hire six personnel and we
were able to do this because they work
[6:32]
24 hours a day which is the is the norm
within the fire service and the EMS
[6:37]
service. 24 hours on, 48 hours off. That
way you're only paying benefits to six
[6:42]
personnel. If you use the eight hour
model you're going to have to hire about
[6:45]
12 people. If you use four on, four off,
you're hiring
[6:50]
eight people. So, the most
cost-effective way was to do the 24-hour
[6:54]
model that most fire departments
utilize.
[6:58]
And that's that's a direction we took.
Um, that first year we got uh our eyes
[7:04]
opened up. We didn't realize that in
2018, the last year that the private EMS
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agency covered EMS calls in the area,
they called Danberry Fire Department for
[7:13]
mutual aid 127 times.
We had to call a neighboring department
[7:18]
because we couldn't cover calls in our
area 127 times. So in 2019 when we
[7:24]
became a full-time position, we had our
volunteers working a lot to cover these
[7:29]
EMS calls because you figure volume
grows every year. We're probably looking
[7:33]
at 130 to 135 times that year that our
volunteers had to come in and cover EMS
[7:39]
calls because we were already out on
another EMS call. On top of that, our
[7:43]
volunteers were also covering at that
time 150 fire calls. So now our
[7:49]
volunteers are asked to pretty much
respond every single day. So a
[7:54]
transition was made in 2020 to bring in
six more full-time personnel. The reason
[8:01]
this worked was because Kataba Township
and McGrder Hospital asked for help.
[8:05]
They needed help with EMS and McGrder
needed help with inner facility
[8:08]
transports. Through the contracts with
the townships and with the local
[8:12]
hospital, we were able to hire on a
whole another group of six personnel
[8:16]
full-time to help cover those areas. The
benefit to the community of Port Clinton
[8:22]
was that gave us two responding
ambulances. We now had two fully staffed
[8:27]
ambulances in our area to respond to
those calls. Whereas before we'd have to
[8:33]
call mutual aid or we have to wait for
volunteers to come on onto the station,
[8:37]
grab a truck and get in get uh out to
cover that EMS call.
[8:44]
So that led to run volume of 1,200 calls
a day. We were covering 1,200 calls a
[8:52]
day with those six individuals
um with a department that was used to
[8:57]
only covering 150. So it was it was an
eye- openening experience for us but we
[9:02]
made it work.
So 2024 we had to make some changes. We
[9:09]
were we were coming after um the city
for extra funding. We had to pull from
[9:13]
the general fund because we could not we
could no longer operate within our
[9:17]
means. Run volume kept increasing and we
just could not operate uh within the
[9:23]
means. our equipment kept becoming more
and more outdated and with us relying on
[9:28]
that levy that was passed off of 2006
era. We had nothing left over to update
[9:35]
the equipment and I've come to you
multiple times about all of our needs
[9:38]
and towards the end I will refresh
everybody with what our constant needs
[9:42]
are. [snorts]
[clears throat]
[9:44]
So our staff members made some changes.
I felt it silly that our full-time
[9:50]
members were only EMS certified. They
were that way for six years. So they all
[9:55]
cross trainined into fire. They all work
for a fire department. I felt that they
[9:58]
should be fire trained as well. So all
of our full-timers and part-timers made
[10:01]
the switch over to become fire and EMS
trained. So now your responders are
[10:05]
cross trained. When you dial 911, your
full-time personnel can either go in the
[10:10]
ambulance if it's a medical call or they
can go on the engine. So if your house
[10:14]
is burning, you can have an engine there
in about four minutes. Standard model
[10:17]
for volunteers usually about 14 minutes.
So that helped out with community jobs.
[10:21]
[clears throat] Another change we made
in 2024 was all of our full-timers took
[10:26]
a 15% pay cut.
Every one of them. [snorts] Everybody
[10:31]
knows the cost of living nowadays. We're
hurting just to get groceries. And in
[10:35]
2024, June of 2020, they took a 15% pay
cut so we could try try to continue to
[10:40]
operate within our budget. They've not
had a raise since. So, they've been
[10:45]
continuing on with this 15% pay cut.
That is a drastic pay cut. Anybody knows
[10:49]
numbers?
We also dissolve the administrative
[10:52]
assistant position because we just again
can't afford it. We're still based off
[10:57]
of a levy that pays $240,000.
That $240,000 doesn't that pays for two
[11:02]
full-time wages. The other four four
wages plus uh the chief plus the
[11:09]
volunteer fire department and all the
cost for the paid on call volunteers
[11:13]
plus utilities plus equipment costs.
We just couldn't afford it.
[11:19]
So, one thing that did help alleviate
the pain of all all that, we were able
[11:23]
to bring $800,000 in from federal
funding and grant money through the last
[11:27]
three and a half years. That has been
the big band-aid that have that has kept
[11:31]
us from bleeding out. It's just but the
um if anybody has paid attention to the
[11:35]
news, all that grant funding is
dissolved. It's not out there anymore.
[11:38]
So, we have no stream for federal
funding and the state funding you can
[11:43]
only measure in tens of thousands. So,
that's not going to be enough to help us
[11:46]
with our current situation.
So,
[11:51]
I want uh thanks to Mayor Mike Snder, we
actually have a couple examples. Um I
[11:56]
have Eric over here that's going to
bring up the cost of living changes.
[12:00]
When you reflect back on 2006 when the
original levy was passed into this past
[12:05]
year, he's going to site some examples
on just how much um pricing has changed
[12:11]
over the last 20 years. You know, it's
interesting to see uh pound of ground
[12:15]
beef went from about 2.72 uh to 5.94
over double. Uh you know, if we take a
[12:22]
look at e coffee, I mean, it's
astronomical now. It was 79 cents per
[12:26]
pound. Today, it's 359. If you look at a
dozen eggs, and this varies a little
[12:30]
bit, but it was about a buck 60. You
know, we're paying about $6. Now, if you
[12:36]
know, for those of us that like a
pepperoni pizza, it was about 10 bucks.
[12:38]
Now, it's about 19. So, almost double.
Uh look at minimum wage. It went from
[12:43]
$685 to $11. Now I think the uh the
interesting one for us uh and I think
[12:48]
this is probably a stripped down model,
but an F154
[12:52]
truck was about 196. It's now 398. So I
mean in that amount of time prices went
[12:59]
up astronomically and thanks to CO it's
probably worse than it probably should.
[13:04]
So the reason that we did our well Mike
did his homework on that and gave that
[13:09]
over to us is you have to put that into
perspective of the levy that we've been
[13:13]
surviving off of for 20 years.
Everything around us has skyrocketed
[13:17]
almost doubled in price for the examples
that Eric gave. You don't think fire
[13:21]
engine hasn't doubled in price since
then? The fire hose, turnout gear,
[13:24]
literally everything that we need to
keep us ourselves safe. And we have not
[13:29]
gone a dime more in 20 years. And that's
put us into a very unique situation
[13:34]
because now
we're we're working with that outdated
[13:39]
equipment that should have been replaced
five or six years ago. Now we're we're
[13:43]
mandated to do more with less. So that
brings us to what's coming up to the
[13:48]
ballot in May. And I actually reached
out because I wanted to see if there
[13:52]
were more options than just continuing
with what we're doing.
[13:57]
So,
if we go back to that original model
[14:00]
back in 2006 where we hired a private
EMS agency to come to town and we revert
[14:05]
back to a fully volunteer department,
the cost to run that fire department to
[14:11]
cover the fire calls only is $250,000.
That's a part-time chief. All
[14:18]
volunteers, who again, remember, are
paid on call. That'll pay for fuel.
[14:22]
They'll pay for utilities, and they'll
pay for the day-to-day equipment. There
[14:26]
will be no capital investment at that
price though. We still would not be able
[14:30]
to afford a fire truck and ambulance and
all of our outdated equipment including
[14:35]
radio communications. That covers fire
calls which is as of 2025 200 calls a
[14:41]
year.
The EMS portion is what was interesting.
[14:46]
I reached out to multiple EMS agencies.
The the best quote I got was from
[14:50]
Sunduski County EMS. They're right down
the road. They cover the west end of the
[14:53]
county. They cover south of us in
Fremont. They could cover EMS for the
[14:58]
city of Port Clinton. And I know a lot
of you know that we cover townships.
[15:02]
This quote was just for the city of Port
Clinton. Was going to cost $900,000 a
[15:07]
year.
So you add those two numbers together
[15:10]
and we're at $1.15 million a year to
operate off of that base model from
[15:15]
2006. Gives us one ambulance with two
EMTs. They're not they're not cross and
[15:21]
fire. They're all they're only EMTs and
that gives you volunteer fire with a
[15:26]
part-time chief. So, if you have any
questions and you have to go to the fire
[15:29]
department, you're probably not going to
get anybody because it's not going to be
[15:32]
staffed.
Now, on top of that, every time somebody
[15:37]
dials 911 and an ambulance serves them,
they're going to receive a full medical
[15:41]
bill. Currently, we soft bill. You bill
your a your insurance, we wave the rest.
[15:46]
You do not see a bill from us. this
model, you're not only paying 1.15
[15:51]
million a year, you have to um pay a
medical bill that goes back to Sundeski
[15:56]
County EMS. It doesn't go to our fire
department. So, that's a big um topic as
[16:02]
as to why option we there's option A
right there versus what I'm going to
[16:06]
talk about here with option B. Option A
also dissolves all the contracts with
[16:10]
the townships. So, all that extra
funding that we get from Portage Bay,
[16:14]
Kataba, Mcuter Hospital, all goes away,
has all EMS coverage. So all that extra
[16:19]
funding is gone. So we can't look to uh
for any help from our neighboring
[16:23]
townships. [snorts]
So remember that number $1.15 million
[16:28]
because I know that the levy that we're
putting on in May is about $300,000 shy
[16:32]
of that. Uh current setup is to continue
what we're doing. This levy that comes
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in is going to be able to pay for that
full-time squad. It's going to be able
[16:42]
to pay for all the services that you
have been receiving for seven years. And
[16:46]
more importantly, it's going to pay to
upgrade all the equipment that we sorely
[16:52]
need. We We've had no funding for seven
years. We've been cut at even right at
[16:57]
right at even. And even as you as you
know with your voting, you've had to
[17:01]
help us out some years as well. This is
going to allow us to grow for capital
[17:05]
expenses. As of this year, we have one
truck out of 12 that's less than 15
[17:11]
years old. One truck. Your fire engines
are 20 years old and 30 years old.
[17:17]
That's that's what's protecting the city
with with any kind of structure fire. 20
[17:21]
years old and 30 years old. If this levy
passes and I go to order a truck January
[17:28]
1st of 2027, that truck doesn't arrive
till 2030.
[17:33]
We are on a three-year wait list for
ambulances and engines. I don't want to
[17:37]
wait till one of our trucks breaks down
to make that choice to now go to the
[17:41]
community, now get the funding, and now
we have to wait three more years for
[17:45]
that engine to show up. So, I feel like
we're in that position now where we need
[17:49]
to start planning for these expenses.
[17:54]
With regards to uh the station, that's
an old Toledo Edison building. Wasn't
[17:59]
made for a fire department, but we're
making do. We've got some very handy
[18:03]
workers. We were able to carve out five
bedrooms for there. So, we can staff
[18:06]
everybody there, but we can't fix the
roof. We can't fix the aging um parking
[18:11]
lot. We can't fix the paint, the walls
that need painted, the flooring that
[18:15]
needs redone, and all the plumbing.
There are days where our guys don't have
[18:19]
hot water. There are days where our guys
only have scalding hot water. Plumbing
[18:24]
needs fixed, but we can't afford to fix
that. Um and the most important portion
[18:28]
of our station is all of our gear is
exposed to our trucks. Our gear sits out
[18:32]
in the bay, and they are not covered.
There's no ventilation system in place.
[18:36]
So, they just absorb all the carcinogens
from the diesel exhaust of our engines.
[18:40]
So, we need funding to be able to
safeguard all this prop um PPE is what
[18:46]
we call protective personal equipment
that our guys wear because right now
[18:50]
they're just putting on cancer when they
wear their gear. As opposed to our
[18:54]
equipment, we're unable [clears throat]
to maintain our annual testing
[18:56]
requirements for ladders, hoses, pumps,
air packs. We just hope that they they
[19:00]
work. Um, our staff are currently
sharing and renting turnout gear. We
[19:06]
can't afford to buy brand new gear size
to our members. We have to rent it and
[19:10]
we have people that have to share.
Radio communications are outdated. Our
[19:14]
radios last I saw purchased was about
eight years ago and those were purchased
[19:18]
used that night. That's the radios that
we're using now. Our personnel are
[19:22]
taking upon themselves to buying their
own radios.
[19:25]
So um in conclusion uh our job is
inherently dangerous profession. Our
[19:31]
members are routinely called upon to
enter burning structures to protect the
[19:36]
lives and preserve the property within
our community. We operate on active
[19:40]
roadways and adverse weather conditions
typically snow, rain, sleep, all the
[19:45]
things that cause the car accident or
out in outside of heart attacks.
[19:50]
Firefighters struck on the roadway is
the number two reason for deaths in our
[19:54]
industry.
>> [snorts]
[19:55]
» who [clears throat] are out there
performing those extrications and
[19:58]
providing critical patient care.
Nonetheless,
[20:01]
our work is carried out amid amid amidst
chronic sleep deprivation and repeated
[20:06]
exposure to traumatic incidents that
leave lasting effects. Despite these
[20:10]
challenges, our personnel continue to
perform their duties using outdated
[20:14]
equipment. This funding request is
intended to bring the department into
[20:17]
compliance with modern safety and
operational standards before a
[20:22]
catastrophic equipment failure occurs.
potentially resulting in emergency
[20:26]
expenditures, serious injury, or loss of
life. Council, I really appreciate your
[20:33]
time. I know I was very long-winded
there, but with all the questions and
[20:36]
concerns I have been seeing online and
in person and the phone calls I've been
[20:40]
receiving, I wanted to put out there
just the journey that we have been going
[20:43]
through and hopefully clear some of the
air. Uh, if you have any questions for
[20:48]
me, I am at your disposal right now.
>> Yes, Jerry.
[20:53]
» Okay. I' I've got a few. Okay. First, uh
the federal grants. Do you see any
[21:00]
in the near future coming through?
>> I can't find there. They come up and and
[21:05]
leave at this time. The highest level
grant I've I've seen and am applying for
[21:09]
is $15,000.
>> Our BWC stuff we cycle through every
[21:15]
three years, right?
>> We just utilized one in fall for that
[21:19]
out. Gave all of our personnel brand new
gloves, brand new hoods. But as for AFG
[21:25]
grants, the stuff that we can buy,
trucks, our our big capital
[21:29]
expenditures, I haven't seen anything
since 2024.
[21:33]
» Okay. Um [clears throat]
maybe this will go hand in hand. When do
[21:38]
you think the NFPA is going to get
involved in your situation with the
[21:42]
equipment that's about to
say it and die?
[21:47]
» NFBA to my knowledge will not get
involved. What will happen will be when
[21:53]
an engine failure occurs or an injury
occurs and that piece of equipment is
[21:57]
not within compliance, the lawyer will
site NFPA standards.
[22:01]
» Okay?
>> That's how NFPA gets involved.
[22:04]
» Okay. The situation we're we're in now,
and I'm saying we're because we're all
[22:08]
one, fire department, the city, we're
all we're all family.
[22:12]
» Um is the situation we're in now with
you guys. Is that affecting the
[22:17]
homeowners insuranceances? And when we
start upgrading things, I would think
[22:23]
that would lower homeowners insurance.
>> So, uh, what you're talking about is
[22:27]
ISO. We just went through our ISO rating
early 2024 and we were at an ISO 44X,
[22:36]
which is excellent for our area up until
2024. And then we moved to an ISO ISO
[22:41]
rating 55X. Uh the reason for that we
got hit with we had no records of pump
[22:48]
testing, no records of ladder testing.
Um they were just weren't weren't done.
[22:53]
And as we've talked about here, the uh
amount of volunteer firefighters
[22:59]
are just decreasing nationwide. We also
show that we just couldn't bring the
[23:03]
mandatory limit to our calls just
because of the decrease in in volunteer
[23:08]
firefighters. 2018 we had 41 volunteers
and we are now at 15.
[23:13]
» Wow.
>> So we just the manpower just wasn't
[23:16]
there. So because of all those
circumstances um we did drop from a four
[23:22]
ISO 44X to an ISO 55X which does affect
homeowner insurance.
[23:26]
» Exactly. Um, okay. One one other
question, Chief. Are and I was on the
[23:33]
committee with you and a few others in
this meeting and my my my concern was
[23:38]
getting this out to the public
uh performing arts center, invite, you
[23:44]
know, the whole town.
Any plans to do something like that?
[23:49]
The public needs to hear what you just
said. It's fantastic that we're doing it
[23:54]
that you told us,
>> but you know,
[23:58]
» I would like to introduce you to Eric
Shinsky and Chris Enoch. They are
[24:01]
actually part of a committee that's
taking lead on pretty much what we're
[24:04]
calling information overload.
>> We plan on swapping the public. So just
[24:09]
so they can make an informed opinion
come
[24:13]
» online presence, getting outdoor, having
open houses, being at events.
[24:18]
» We do have a marketing plan. Uh it it is
down on paper. Um we just have to enact
[24:24]
that plan. Uh and it is kind of a
blitzkrieak if you would of getting out
[24:28]
to the public uh utilizing the social
media uh utilizing the PAC things of
[24:33]
that nature. But I think too, you know,
um one-on-one discussions as well too. I
[24:37]
I I think we know some of those
individuals in the community that we
[24:40]
need to have those conversations with
>> that don't understand. It's not that
[24:43]
they don't care about the issue, but
>> they don't understand what the issue is.
[24:47]
And so they may be giving some
information that's not quite right. So
[24:50]
that is our plan.
>> Okay. You you know you can come to us
[24:54]
individually as a call. You know we'll
do anything we can to help you guys. I
[24:59]
don't understand no records of host
testing and I used to host test and
[25:05]
» pump test and I know we fill out
paperwork for all that.
[25:09]
» Okay that's passed and we're paying for
the pass.
[25:12]
» We're updated on host testing, ladder
testing, pump testing. Okay.
[25:15]
» That's CVA flow testing. We're updated
on all of that. That's part of the
[25:18]
funding that we had to come to the
general fund board to to receive to pay
[25:21]
for all those services, but we are
completely updated as an agency on all
[25:25]
all fronts.
>> Thank you very much.
[25:28]
» Yep. Appreciate it.
>> I have a question. First of all, echo
[25:30]
what he said. More information is better
because I went from wondering why I
[25:33]
needed this to how you survived without
it. So, what you said made a lot of
[25:37]
sense. I do have a couple questions
though.
[25:39]
» Yes, Um I do think that I understand why
you call them paid volunteers but that
[25:45]
is such a confusing term. You know
volunteers by definition are not paid.
[25:50]
So
I people you may want to explain that a
[25:54]
thousand times but you know now may
because people don't understand that
[25:57]
» the problem we have is in our service
that certification is actually called
[26:01]
the volunteer firefighter certification.
>> So we're kind of stuck with that label.
[26:07]
Um, which is why I think I within my
first sentence I tried to get that
[26:10]
explanation right out front.
>> Yeah.
[26:13]
» Okay. So, right now you have you have
two full-time uh EMS things. They're
[26:17]
there all the time.
>> Actually, we have two full
[26:22]
EM fire EMS um squads. Okay.
>> Because all of our personnel are cross
[26:27]
trainined now to both firefighters,
EMTs. Okay.
[26:30]
» We actually have five on station.
>> So, if I call 911 and and I'm having a
[26:34]
heart attack, you'll send one. If Kathy
calls and she's having a heart attack,
[26:38]
you could still send another one.
>> If Carmen calls, then we have to farm it
[26:42]
out to a third one, right?
>> Not necessarily.
[26:44]
» And that we actually have enough ENTs in
our community that that gets toned out
[26:49]
and we have multiple members, these two
included, that will drop what they're
[26:54]
doing and respond just as a volunteer
firefighter. They will come and then
[26:58]
instead of jumping on the fire engine to
go take care of the fire call, they jump
[27:01]
on the ambulance to take care of the EMS
[clears throat] call.
[27:03]
» Okay. And you point once said you had
1,200 calls per day. You didn't mean
[27:07]
» no per year. Okay. You said
>> did I say can you
[27:11]
» can you please
[laughter]
[27:15]
grant funding's going out in the room.
>> I'm sorry to keep bugging that. Okay.
[27:19]
» I appreciate you catching that.
>> This um the levy that you're working on
[27:24]
now brings 240,000 a year.
>> No, that's what we just ended.
[27:27]
» Yeah, that's what just ended, right?
Yes. And and that's
[27:30]
» Yeah. And so you're drawing on the
general fund to make up the difference.
[27:33]
» Uh depends on the year. Some years we
get by, other years we just need the
[27:38]
equipment. And I don't know how much. I
think it was about 200,000 last year
[27:41]
that we had to
>> I mean there's no way $240,000 can cover
[27:45]
fire department.
>> No, it covers it covers the wages of two
[27:48]
full-time, right?
>> Which leaves four others plus cheap plus
[27:50]
utilities. Yeah. I don't have to go down
that road again.
[27:53]
» Okay. Um, this you said if we went back
to the old model, which I agree is not
[27:58]
as good. It would cost 1.15 million
[snorts]
[28:03]
» and that's for one ambulance,
>> right?
[28:05]
» For two EMTs that are not crosschained,
of which you guys will get build every
[28:09]
time.
>> Like I said, I think that's much worse
[28:11]
scenario.
>> Now, you've got me all weird because
[28:13]
like 1,200 a day.
>> So, that also means there's no capital
[28:19]
spending. Like that is just the base
operating costs. And then how much is
[28:23]
this new levy going to bring in?
>> You'll have to talk to Gabe about that.
[28:28]
» 600
643ish.
[28:31]
» Oh, I thought it was 8.
>> It is 8.
[28:33]
» Oh, 840. 840. 840.
>> So about 840. So that 350,000 up on the
[28:38]
things. I mean, it still isn't many fire
engines. I don't know how much one cost,
[28:41]
but it's a lot. I know that.
>> Um, okay. And
[28:49]
I think that's it. Okay. Thank you. It
was it was very good what you said. I I
[28:53]
appreciate the information.
>> Hi.
[28:57]
» She
you said right now you service the
[29:02]
townships plus Port Clinton. Correct.
With the squad.
[29:05]
» Yes. EMS.
>> Should you have to go? No. The the first
[29:11]
thing you had said going with Sunduski
County.
[29:15]
» Oh, private EMS. I I cited Susan County
because I I have
[29:19]
» Would they also service?
>> That's between them townships.
[29:22]
» Okay.
>> Yep. That would be between them and
[29:24]
» so they would have the townships would
then have to
[29:27]
» negotiate. Okay. Thank you.
>> Um I just had like one question. Um with
[29:34]
this levy passed, will our first
responders be able to get their 15% pay
[29:39]
cut back?
>> We would have to look at the funding for
[29:41]
that. Yeah, that would be nice. Yeah, it
was I was so proud of them.
[29:46]
» Yeah, that's amazing.
>> We had to come together as a group and
[29:48]
just have that conversation. That's a
tough [music] conversation.
[29:52]
» But it was a sacrifice they made to
continue services.
[30:00]
» Thank you.
>> Okay.
[30:03]
» You better.
[30:07]
» Thank you. Thank you for coming.
>> You are you are all wonderful today.
[30:12]
We got to make them sweat so they can
not for our training tonight.
[30:16]
» That's fine.
>> Thank you for having us. I appreciate
[30:19]
it.
[30:28]
» Absolutely. Yeah.
[30:32]
» I can I can scan it to you. I I deleted
it. I didn't need to save it.
[30:35]
» I got it. Okay.
[30:43]
Do you have any public comment?
>> Okay, we want the executive officer
[30:49]
reports. Um, I'd like to start by
welcome
[30:53]
Carmen Dap is a third council person.
So, um, council, you should have
[31:00]
received an email. Your ethics form are
due. Um, I believe it's a $35 filing
[31:07]
fee. If you miss the deadline date, it
is $10 a day. So,
[31:13]
» yeah. Um, also, um,
you have to take public records. All
[31:19]
elected officials have to take a public
records training and that can be done
[31:22]
online or through the attorney general's
office or they have some live if you'd
[31:28]
like to go to that, but you have to do
it one time during your term. So if you
[31:32]
were just newly elected again again you
have to do it every time. So um there
[31:38]
are there's a new ordinance in the
resolution ordinance 1-26
[31:44]
um is not going to be assigned to the
committee and Mr. Bo has asked that it
[31:49]
be passed on it first reading. It was um
the ordinance is from the motion for Q
[31:55]
from the last meeting that Mr. Robinson
made. Um it is time sensitive. He has
[32:00]
just asked that it be passed this
evening. Resolution 26-2
[32:05]
is no committee and can go to full three
readings.
[32:09]
That is all I have this evening. We'll
have the mayor's report.
[32:13]
» Thank you, Madam President. Good
evening, council. Mr. Morgan, I know I
[32:16]
pick on you a lot. It's all done with
the the best of you. I don't know if
[32:19]
anybody else in this room picked up on
this that the last person to show up
[32:22]
before the meeting starts was the first
one to get an ethic ethics report put
[32:26]
in. [laughter] Thank you.
Congratulations. Congratulations.
[32:29]
council. Uh if you are not aware, there
are two new festivals and events coming
[32:33]
into the the community this year. Uh the
Pirate Fest, which is going to take
[32:37]
place on Waterworks Park the 24th to the
26th of July, and the Great Lakes
[32:42]
Rockabilly Road Trip, which is going to
take place primarily on private
[32:46]
property, uh the parking lot where the
old Great Scott Community Market used to
[32:51]
be. Uh we had a meeting with that
organization earlier today. It's it's
[32:55]
going to be a wonderful thing that will
take place on on August 1st. So mark
[32:58]
your calendars for those two events. Uh
as the municipality within the county,
[33:04]
like all other villages in the county,
all other townships in the county, we
[33:09]
have two appointees to the uh regional
planning commission. That regional
[33:13]
planning commission meets on the third
Tuesday of of every month in the
[33:17]
basement of the courthouse at 5:00 p.m.
I want to thank uh Jeff Morgan for his
[33:22]
time, long long time serving on that
committee. He is unable to to continue.
[33:27]
Uh I was also the other person on that
committee and uh I want to welcome the
[33:31]
two new appointees to to that board. Uh
Todd Bickley who's our zoning inspector
[33:36]
and then our very own Avery Robinson has
agreed to to sit on that post. So I want
[33:41]
to thank both of those gentlemen for uh
for taking on that task. Uh council, I
[33:47]
know it's kind of strange. It's very
very early in the calendar year, but I
[33:50]
want to talk a little bit about the
Fourth of July festivities. Uh earlier
[33:53]
today, I signed a piece of paper that
basically scared the heck out of me
[33:58]
because we're going to have $20,000
worth of fireworks this year. We just
[34:01]
need to raise the money for that. I put
some feelers out to a couple of uh
[34:05]
organizations. Um I have every
confidence that uh we will make that
[34:09]
goal. I'll come up with some crazy
fundraising opportunity later on. Uh it
[34:13]
may involve uh Miss Daff's hair. Um
[laughter]
[34:17]
but uh but we'll we'll see what we'll
see what happens there.
[34:20]
» Won't be yours. [laughter]
Um, for anyone that is interested, that
[34:24]
that goes to the folks in this room and
those watching on the interweb here at
[34:28]
6:00 p.m. this coming Thursday, uh,
we're having a Fourth of July
[34:33]
celebration committee meeting at the
Alikart after hours. Um, unless you
[34:38]
know, if you'd like to get involved,
please feel free to stop by. It's open.
[34:42]
Each event that takes place on the 4th
of July from the the the 5K in the
[34:46]
morning to the fireworks is put on by a
different individual or groups of
[34:51]
individuals and we all kind of come
together. So we'd love to have
[34:54]
additional ideas. Uh so if anyone's
available again 6 p.m. Allocart this
[34:58]
Thursday. Quick update on the uh
forwardlooking infrastructure project.
[35:02]
If you haven't been down Lake Shore
Drive, they are moving at the speed of
[35:04]
light. Um it is amazing to see how how
well that is progressing down there now
[35:09]
that I've just said it. you know,
knockwood jinx. Everyone in this
[35:15]
community is wondering when the heck is
the belowground stuff going to happen.
[35:18]
And as you may recall, uh September, we
submitted all the paperwork to the five
[35:23]
funding entities. Then the government
shut down. Well, I am very pleased to
[35:27]
report that all funding sources have for
the most part and I feel confident given
[35:33]
us the green light to go ahead. Now,
they are all reviewing our bid
[35:37]
documents. You know, it's it's this this
process has been incredibly eye opening
[35:41]
to me and the red tape is certainly out
there. You know, the federal government
[35:46]
has to make sure that their funding
sources are represented properly and
[35:49]
they can't interfere with the state
funding sources and this agency has to
[35:53]
make sure that this agency doesn't get
hot built. It's it's just insane. But we
[35:57]
are and I I've been saying this for
years, but that bright light at the end
[36:01]
of the tunnel is is there and and we're
hoping uh we're hoping to to to get
[36:06]
there very very quickly. We are dealing
with a logistical issue with the
[36:10]
railroads going underneath the railroads
with our water and sewer lines, but
[36:14]
everyone involved from special projects
coordinator to our engineer uh company
[36:19]
Kleinfeller thinks that we can work that
out. But it is it is an uphill battle
[36:23]
right now with the with the railroads.
And finally tonight, I I would like to
[36:27]
welcome two new members. Uh I know you
all have have met them, but the the
[36:31]
community, M. Daft, Carmen Daft,
obviously the uh W three councilwoman,
[36:37]
and then Aaron Taylor, who is behind the
camera. You can't see him. Um he is our
[36:41]
new city treasur. I want to thank our
our former city treasurer, Joe Brener,
[36:46]
for his years of service. He chose not
to run. Uh that left nobody chose to run
[36:50]
for it. uh that left a vacancy in that
spot and by state law it fell on my
[36:55]
shoulders to try to find somebody and
thankfully uh didn't take too much
[36:59]
convincing but but uh Mr. Taylor stepped
up and and I appreciate that and he's
[37:04]
going to give his first report here in a
few minutes. So with that, Madam
[37:07]
President, unless anyone has any
questions,
[37:10]
that concludes my report this evening.
>> Okay, the auditor is not with us. The
[37:16]
treasur I'd like to welcome Mr. Taylor
worked with you before. Thank you.
[37:20]
» It's full circle. Um, do you have a
report this evening?
[37:24]
» Uh, yes. Uh, we have a few numbers in.
Uh, for our short-term rental
[37:29]
registrations, year-to- date revenue,
we're at $2,100.
[37:34]
And then for our local taxes, bed tax,
uh, year-to date we're at $1,4566.
[37:42]
And we have not collected any dock tax
yet this year, which does make sense
[37:48]
considering the weather.
>> Thank you. Law directors
[37:53]
» and he's funny. Look at that. [laughter]
>> Law director.
[37:57]
» Thank you, Madam President. Um I don't
have anything specific to report
[38:01]
tonight. Um, I know that I've spoken
with several different council members
[38:06]
um and with administration and we are
looking this year um to fixing up some
[38:13]
of our old outdated ordinances and
hopefully moving forward with some other
[38:17]
issues that have been looming um so we
can get the city back on the right
[38:22]
track. Um that's all I have today madam
president and due to a time limit may I
[38:26]
be excused?
>> Yes. Thank you. [laughter]
[38:29]
» Thank you.
>> You too. That's all right.
[38:32]
» Wait a minute. [laughter]
[38:36]
» She asked first.
>> Safety service director, Mr. Sams.
[38:42]
» Um, couple things I I I think I
mentioned before and it hasn't gotten
[38:47]
any better. The salt shortage is getting
to be a real real crunch. There's no
[38:52]
salt available at this point. Um,
and I just need to be, you'll probably
[38:59]
be hearing some concerns from some of
your constituents that why my the roads
[39:04]
are are icy and that type of thing.
We're in Northern Ohio. It's January.
[39:11]
Uh, the street crew will do all they can
to plow the snow as best they can.
[39:16]
They're going to be very limited in
where they put salt. They're going to do
[39:18]
the emergency routes, Fulton Street,
Sixth Street, Perry Street, but the side
[39:24]
streets quite frankly may not get sold.
Maybe the intersections, but it just
[39:31]
implore people
to keep, you know, take it easy, take
[39:35]
your time or do the best we can. The
closest salt that I will locate is in
[39:41]
Nashville and it's a little over $100 a
ton. And I don't have a clue what it
[39:45]
cost to haul it up there. It's
ridiculous to even think about it, but
[39:48]
that there it's just a situation that
we're in. And we're not unique. A lot of
[39:54]
municipalities are dealing with the same
thing, but there's there's not going to
[39:58]
be uh the roads aren't going to be black
pavement by 3 hours after the snow stops
[40:02]
falling. So, keep that in mind. They're
using brine. They're doing whatever they
[40:06]
can. They're trying to keep them plowed
as best they can, but uh it's going to
[40:10]
be a challenge. Um the the I've been
involved with the weekly updates from a
[40:17]
couple of the engineering firms as as
the mayor mentioned. Uh we are
[40:21]
progressing. Trust me that the time that
I've been here we're we're making
[40:25]
progress. Um but it's it there's there's
always there's obstacles, there's hoops
[40:31]
to jump through, and uh you should be
very very blessed to have Doug Ner on
[40:36]
board as a special project coordinator.
Um I I just sit back and and I've
[40:42]
learned a lot just in the couple months
being here as far as what's involved. So
[40:47]
we are making progress. Um we'll get
we'll get tearing the streets up and
[40:52]
people can get excited about that. But
at least there's a reason because
[40:55]
there's something going back in. Uh get
back to street guys. They they were set
[41:00]
up for plowing snow this past week. They
they did switch over. There were some
[41:04]
leaves to pick up. As far as I know, the
leaves have been picked up. If there's
[41:10]
isolated somewhere, they they'll
probably get them, but there's a little
[41:14]
bit of ordeal to switch over the
equipment from plowing snow to picking
[41:17]
up leaves. And their credit, they they
did that because the leaf pickup was
[41:21]
kind of u put back a little bit with the
snow, the early snow that we had. So, u
[41:27]
uh credit to the street department for
getting that taken care of. And that's
[41:32]
that's really as much as I have. Does
anybody have any questions for me?
[41:36]
Jerry?
>> Yeah. Um, Mr. S, what happened with
[41:40]
Salt? I mean, why
question two,
[41:44]
» right? Question, too. I'm sorry.
>> I thought we were in a contract. Uh,
[41:49]
» to my Well, I guess you you said it. We
were in a contract.
[41:54]
» Oh, nothing.
>> Evidently, it's come about that that
[41:57]
contract didn't get
>> taken care of. Okay.
[42:02]
» Uh the salt manufacturer, our salt comes
from Detroit up that way. I don't know
[42:07]
why they don't bring it from Cleveland,
but they're just shut down completely.
[42:11]
They're not send nobody's getting any
salt. So, what we have is what we got.
[42:16]
» Okay.
>> And uh you know, we we've got things
[42:20]
we've got more parking lot out here to
salt. There's and so there's there's uh
[42:27]
um there's lots of issues involved and
we've had more snow,
[42:30]
» right?
>> I think maybe the salt was based on last
[42:33]
year
and this is a much different winter than
[42:37]
last year.
So it it's just it's and I really don't
[42:42]
know. I mean you can buy it's 14 if you
can find it. It's about $140 a ton.
[42:48]
There's about five ton on a truckload.
So,
[42:51]
» like I said before, that's like $700 on
a truckload of the soul.
[42:55]
» So, they're going to be very, very
judicious. They'll keep the streets as
[42:58]
safe as they can, but every street's not
going to be black pavement. Um, there's
[43:04]
going to be snow. There's going to be
ice
[43:05]
» on on on the roads.
>> Understandable. How about the beach?
[43:09]
What was going on there today?
Everything's clear and the snow, the
[43:12]
sand up against the wall, the brick wall
because that when New Year's Eve, if you
[43:18]
recall, there's pretty good wind blowing
and that was bringing that that sand
[43:22]
kind of the fence the the walls there.
It stopped the snow,
[43:26]
» right?
>> Well, with that sand that's up there
[43:28]
just gives it a ramp to go up over top
and go out into into Perry Street. So,
[43:32]
they're cleaning the sand off.
Hopefully, that that'll stop the snow
[43:36]
from coming across. Um, can you also
reiterate why we haven't been able to
[43:40]
get out? I know it's a headache every
year about the rock that's exposed along
[43:46]
the beach. You know, people are asking
about it. Look, the water's way out. Why
[43:51]
aren't they I've heard this multiple
times.
[43:54]
» 100% cost.
>> Okay.
[43:56]
» And feasibility. I mean,
>> Right. Right. It's It's my understanding
[44:01]
that that's where Perry Street used to
be. Is that right?
[44:04]
» Oh, no. That's they the the old Perry
Street they dumped it there.
[44:08]
» Okay.
>> Right.
[44:09]
» And it's it's it's not just a thing. You
take a dozer out and scrape the top foot
[44:14]
off and it's all pure sand. The rock
goes all the way all the way down.
[44:18]
» You and I understand that. But you know,
you always hear about it.
[44:21]
» Well, if somebody has a concern, have
them give me a call. Right.
[44:24]
» I'll talk to people.
>> They usually hang up on me, but that's
[44:27]
all right.
>> Thanks, sir. That's all.
[44:31]
» Yeah. My question and I'm sorry to
interrupt you. No, you're good.
[44:34]
» Yeah. Um I've never heard of such thing
as a salt shortage. I mean, we have
[44:39]
» we have tons and tons of salt, you know,
in these huge I know we don't. Did
[44:44]
someone just decide not to mine them
anymore? I mean, you go to Cleveland,
[44:47]
you can drive cars through there.
There's huge
[44:50]
» I've never companies have at this point
stopped producing and transporting soul
[44:56]
» and we don't know why.
>> And it happens from time to time.
[44:59]
» Yeah, it's not the first time I've heard
about it.
[45:01]
» It's odd, you know. Have you would this?
In my previous life, I lived in a
[45:05]
district where instead of salt, they
used uh stones a lot.
[45:09]
» Sure.
>> It was a rural district much more than
[45:11]
this one.
>> You plug up the storm drains and the
[45:14]
pumps for the storm drains.
>> Yeah. I'm not saying it's a good idea.
[45:16]
You
>> Well, it's a great idea. In the rural
[45:18]
areas, it's it's it's makes a world of
sense, but here you get in the catch
[45:23]
goes in the catch masons into the storm
drains and the pumps and that type of
[45:27]
thing. It'd chew them up.
>> Yeah, makes sense. So it it's but it
[45:30]
yeah it's a it's it's it's done. It's
there's nothing wrong with it but not
[45:35]
not in a an area like what we have here
storm drain.
[45:39]
» Yeah. Because where I live with all
rural. Okay. Thank you.
[45:44]
» Um what about
>> Can we be excused now? [laughter]
[45:47]
» No.
[45:51]
» Principal smoke.
>> You tried. Um this is finance. Um, the
[45:57]
only thing I have to say tonight is I'm
sorry to lose Jerry from my committee,
[46:00]
but I'm really happy they
[46:05]
[laughter]
>> environment public works, Mr. Jolie.
[46:08]
» Nothing tonight.
>> Thank you.
[46:12]
Economic and community development.
>> Thank you, Madam President. We have a
[46:15]
meeting tomorrow night at 6 PM.
publicly provided.
[46:20]
» Yes.
>> All of our
[46:24]
» Okay. Move on to correspondence. On the
correspondence, we have the December 25
[46:29]
2025 financial report provided by Mr.
Bo.
[46:32]
» Madam President. Yes. I move we accept
the December 2025 financial report
[46:36]
provided by Mr. Bo.
>> Thank you. Do I have a second?
[46:39]
» Thank you, Mr. Any discussion?
We have a motion by Mr. Second amendment
[46:44]
to Troy to accept the December 2025
financial report.
[46:49]
Would the clerk please call the RO
Morgan?
[46:53]
» Yes.
>> Avery Robinson?
[46:55]
» Yes.
>> Advis. Yes.
[46:56]
» Jerry Trollley.
>> Yes.
[46:57]
» Beth Gilman.
>> Yes.
[46:58]
» Herman.
>> Yes.
[47:00]
» And yes.
>> Thank you. Vote [clears throat] of 70.
[47:04]
This council wish to take any further
action to correspond.
[47:08]
» Madam President, we accept the
correspondence as presented.
[47:11]
» Thank you. Do I have a second?
>> Second. Okay, I have a motion by Mrs.
[47:16]
Gilman, second by Mr. Tulie to accept
the correspondence as stated. All in
[47:20]
favor say I.
>> I.
[47:21]
» Oppose the same sign. Thank you. Motion
carries and the correspondence hereby
[47:25]
accepted. We'll move on to readings of
ordinances and resolution. We quickly
[47:30]
read by title and sum railing ordinance
36-25.
[47:34]
Ordinance number 36-25, an ordinance
authorizing and directing the director
[47:39]
of safety and service to prepare and
submit applications as may be required
[47:43]
for planning, design, or construction of
the water meter replacement
[47:47]
improvements, water and sanitary sewer
infrastructure improvements, Lakeshore
[47:52]
Drive, State Route 163 reventment
improvements, Brooklyn Street Sanitary
[47:57]
pump station rehabilitation
improvements, Perry Monroe Harrison
[48:01]
improvements,
lost Elevated water tank base
[48:05]
improvements. Wastewater treatment plant
pump and heat air exchange unit
[48:10]
improvements. Laurel Avenue
reconstruction sanitary sewer and storm
[48:14]
sewer improvements. Lead service line
improve inventory and lead service line
[48:18]
replacement infrastructure improvements
to the Ohio Water Development Authority,
[48:22]
OWDA, Ohio Environmental Protection
Agency, OP OPA, Ohio Department of
[48:29]
Development O, excuse me, OOD, Community
Development Block Grant, CDBG, Water
[48:36]
Pollution Control Loan Fund, WPCLF,
Water Supply Revolving Loan Account,
[48:41]
WSRLA, Ohio Public Works Commission,
OPWC, AA Department of Transportation,
[48:47]
State Infrastructure Bank, SIB, and any
other funding sources or programs that
[48:51]
become available and to execute
application documents for the funding
[48:55]
sources as required to execute contracts
for planning, design, and construction
[48:59]
phases and declaring an emergency.
>> Thank you. Does council wish take any
[49:02]
action to ordinance 36-2?
>> Madam President, Mr. Trollley,
[49:07]
» like to make a motion that we retain the
emergency clause and ordinance 3625.
[49:12]
» Thank you. Do I have a second?
>> Second.
[49:16]
Mr. Robinson. Any discussion?
We have a motion by Mr. Troy, second by
[49:22]
Mr. Robinson to retain the emergency
clauses to ordinance 36-25. Would the
[49:27]
clerk please call the role?
>> Herman Daft.
[49:30]
» Yes.
>> Kathy Kane.
[49:31]
» Yes.
>> Jolley,
[49:32]
» yes.
>> Beth Gilman,
[49:34]
» yes.
>> Richard Morgan,
[49:35]
» yes.
>> Pat Hobus,
[49:36]
» yes.
>> Avery Robinson,
[49:37]
» yes.
>> Thank you. Motion carries 7. The
[49:40]
emergency fund can be retained as
ordinance 36-2.
[49:44]
Council wish to take any further action
as to ordinance 36-25.
[49:48]
» Madam President,
>> Mr. Trollley,
[49:49]
» make a motion that we adopt ordinance
36-25.
[49:53]
» Thank you. Do I have a second?
>> Second.
[49:54]
» Thank you, Mr. Robson. Any discussion?
Okay. Have a motion by Mr. Trollley,
[49:59]
second by Mr. Robinson to adopt
ordinance number 36-25.
[50:05]
Please call the RO.
>> Kathy King,
[50:07]
» yes.
>> Jerry Tolley, yes.
[50:09]
» Beth Gilman,
>> yes.
[50:10]
» Carmen Daff, yes.
>> Richard Morgan,
[50:12]
» yes. Pat Holdus.
>> Yes.
[50:14]
» Apr.
>> Thank you. Motion carried by 70
[50:18]
ordinance 36-25 hereby adopted. Move on
to second readings.
[50:23]
Please read by title and summary only.
Resolution 26-1.
[50:28]
Ordinance number 26-1, a resolution
pursuant to section 5705.19I
[50:34]
of the Ohio Revice Code, submitting to
the electors of the city of the city the
[50:39]
question of a new 3.9 mil property tax
levy for the purpose of providing and
[50:44]
maintaining fire and EMS apparatus, the
fire station, emergency equipment,
[50:48]
emergency vehicles, supplies and
incidentals, communication, capital
[50:53]
improvements, and for the payment of
full-time, part-time, and paid volunteer
[50:56]
personnel wages. benefits and employer
contributions required by section 7.2.34
[51:02]
of the Ohio Defiance Code and declaring
an emergency. [cough and clears throat]
[51:06]
Council wish to take any action as to
resolution 26-1.
[51:10]
Seeing none, resolution 26-1 will be
moved to its third reading at the next
[51:14]
regularly scheduled council meeting on
January 27th, 2026. We move on to first
[51:19]
readings. Would the clerk please read it
by title and summary only
[51:24]
1-26
[51:35]
I'm sorry. Okay. Ordinance 1-26, an
ordinance authorizing and directing the
[51:41]
director of safety and service to
advertise for requests for
[51:44]
qualifications and in a contract for
planning services to implement the city
[51:48]
of Portland active transportation
infrastructure investment program grant
[51:52]
award and declaring an emergency.
>> Thank you. This council is taking action
[51:56]
as to ordinance 1-26.
>> Madam President,
[52:00]
» Mr.
like to make a motion that we wave the
[52:03]
three required readings of ordinance
1-26.
[52:06]
» Thank you. Do I have a second?
>> Thank you, Mr. Robinson. Any discussion?
[52:12]
I have a motion by Mr. Troy, seconded by
Mr. Robinson to wave three required
[52:16]
readings as to ordinance 1-26.
The clerk, please call the role. Kovus,
[52:21]
» yes.
>> Amber Robinson,
[52:22]
» yes.
>> Richard Morgan,
[52:24]
» yes.
>> Beth Gilman,
[52:26]
» yes.
>> Carmen Daff,
[52:27]
» yes.
>> Kathy King,
[52:28]
» yes. Yes. Cherry trolley.
>> Yes.
[52:30]
» Thank you. Motion carries by a vote of
seven zero. The three required readings
[52:35]
are hereby wave. Does council take any
further action as to ordinance 1-26?
[52:40]
» Madam President,
>> Mr. Trollley,
[52:41]
» I make a motion that we retain the
emergency clause and ordinance 1-26.
[52:46]
» Thank you. Do I have a second?
>> Second.
[52:48]
» Thank you, Mr. Robinson. Any discussion?
>> Have a motion by Mr. Trollley, second by
[52:53]
Mr. Robinson to retain the emergency
clause as to ordinance 1-26.
[52:58]
The clerk, please call the role.
>> Permanent Daff,
[53:00]
» yes.
>> Kathy King, yes.
[53:02]
» Beth Gilman,
>> yes.
[53:03]
» Pat Hobus,
>> yes.
[53:04]
» Terry Tolley,
>> yes.
[53:05]
» Avery Robinson,
>> yes.
[53:06]
» Richard Morgan,
>> yes.
[53:09]
» Thank you. Motion carries by vote 70.
The emergency clause is hereby retained
[53:13]
as to ordinance 1-26. Does council wish
to take any further action as to
[53:18]
ordinance 1-26?
>> Madam present.
[53:20]
» Mr.
to make a motion to adopt ordinance
[53:23]
1-26.
>> Thank you. Do I have a second?
[53:27]
» Any discussion?
>> Yes, madam president.
[53:33]
» I either have a brain fart or what is
this doing this ordinance? I'm I'm
[53:38]
confused by it.
>> Going up to
[53:44]
» the active transportation plan that that
we've had other motions and ordinances
[53:48]
on
>> the bike. The bike Yes,
[53:50]
» thank you.
>> You said that to the beginning. Okay.
[53:54]
Transportation nothing for Okay. By
path. All right. Thank you. That's all
[53:58]
the question. Okay.
>> Okay. Yes. Because I do remember that
[54:01]
definitely.
>> Okay. [laughter] Okay. Thank you. Thank
[54:07]
» I have a motion by Mr. Troy and seconded
by Mr. Robinson to adopt ordinance 1-26.
[54:13]
Would the clerk please call the role?
>> Kathy King.
[54:15]
» Yes.
>> Richard Morgan.
[54:17]
» Definitely. Yes. Beth Gilman,
>> yes.
[54:20]
» April Robinson,
>> yes.
[54:22]
» Orman D,
>> yes.
[54:24]
» Pat, yes. Cherry Trolling,
>> yes.
[54:26]
» Thank you. Motion carries 70. Ordinance
1-26 is hereby adopted. Will the clerk
[54:31]
please read by title as summary?
Resolution 26-2.
[54:35]
» Resolution 26-2, a resolution
authorizing the sale of personal
[54:39]
property by internet auction.
>> This council wish action as to
[54:44]
resolution 26-2.
Seeing none, resolution 26-2 will move
[54:51]
to a second reading of the next regular
scheduled council meeting on January
[54:54]
27th, 2026. Move on to business from the
floor. Um council, before you uh is a
[55:02]
draft of the proposed 2026
um rules of council. Um the changes that
[55:12]
I'm suggesting are highlighted in red,
although Mr. Morgan didn't get that one,
[55:17]
so we'll make sure that you do. Um,
uh, one of the changes would be to move
[55:24]
from 12 meetings, committee meetings a
year to a minimum of six. That's on page
[55:31]
five
and also mentioned on page 10. And then
[55:38]
instead of four committees, we'll go
down to three committees which would
[55:42]
combine safety services with public
works. Um and then that and that's an A
[55:48]
and then B. It just combines the two
terms.
[55:53]
That is the only suggestions I have. If
council could just take those and review
[55:59]
them. If you have any questions or any
other suggestions, just let me know.
[56:03]
then possibly they could be voted on at
the next meeting. [clears throat] So
[56:07]
that would be appreciated. So I'm moving
to business room four, Mr. Morgan.
[56:13]
» Because I always get to go first.
>> Yes.
[56:16]
» Special. First of all, one thing I just
want to point out the Lakeshore Drive. I
[56:21]
know there was a lot of discussion about
that sky was falling or going to block
[56:26]
off the lake. And I haven't heard a lot
of people say good about it, but I've
[56:30]
heard no one complain about it, which I
think is good. And I have heard a few
[56:34]
people say good. I went by there and it
looks great and you can see the lake
[56:38]
from my truck, but also from your car,
you can see it. So I think it's it was a
[56:42]
win-win in all things. You know, what
happened is people got together and
[56:45]
talked about it and actually process
worked. Imagine that. So that's how
[56:49]
» Thank you, Mr. Robinson.
>> Thank you, Mr. Trollley.
[56:54]
» Just uh welcome
to the council. I wasn't here for your
[56:58]
first meeting. Welcome. And that's all I
have.
[57:01]
» Thank you, M.
>> Um, again, welcome and Aaron.
[57:06]
» Oh, yes. [laughter]
[57:10]
» Thank you, Mr.
Only thing I would like to tell the
[57:13]
mayor is I will not be shaving my head.
[laughter]
[57:18]
» You would like me to help you in some
other way,
[57:22]
» Will you shave Jerry's head? [laughter]
[57:26]
Well, I think we should nominate Erin.
So, um, welcome. [laughter]
[57:32]
» And, uh, because the mayor mentioned the
4th of July, I just want to give a shout
[57:35]
out to Halloween. [laughter]
[57:41]
» Trick-or- treat's a sore subject.
[laughter]
[57:45]
» Welcome, Aaron. Welcome Carmen. Look
forward to working with both of you.
[57:49]
Nothing to
>> Thank you. Seeing no further business, I
[57:52]
entertain a motion to adjourn.
I'll make a motion that this August.
[57:59]
» Do I have a second?
>> Thank you, Mrs. King. I have a motion by
[58:03]
Mr. Troy, second by M. King to adjurnn.
All in favor say I. Oppose at the same
[58:08]
time sign. Thank you.
>> Thanks for that, Jerry.