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[laughter]
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Good afternoon everybody.
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I would like to call the committee of
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the whole council meeting September 9th,
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2026.
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Before we stand, earlier today,
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our burl said goodbye to Charlie Dickson
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who was a fixture in our community and a
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proud supporter of Pottstown.
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on behalf of Burough Council and Madame
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Mayor, our thoughts
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are with his family and all of us
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knew and and all of us that knew him.
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Please join me in a moment of silence
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followed by the pledge.
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Thank you.
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I pledge algiance to the flag of the
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United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands, one nation
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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>> Thank you.
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Okay, I got infrastructure and
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transportation while I have you council.
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>> Yeah. Um, so there are no meetings for
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either one, but I did want to point out
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that part has been sharing some of their
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data on social media on Facebook from
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their community surveys and there's some
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really interesting information there
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that we as a as a body should begin
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considering. Um, but more more
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information forthcoming.
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>> Okay. Thank you. Um, ordinance review
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committee.
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Okay.
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» [snorts]
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>> economic development and business
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liaison paid executive director Peggy
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Lee Clark. And while you up there, do
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you mind doing land bank report, please?
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Not at all. Thank you. Thank you.
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Good evening, council president,
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counselors, madame mayor. I'd like to
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take a moment to thank Burough Council
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for its continued support of economic
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development in Pottstown over the years.
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One example has been council's support
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for the IPIC Pottstown banners, which
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have helped the business community
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present a unified and positive message
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about our burrow.
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The Pottstown Area Economic Development
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Board is aware of recent public
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discussion about alternative uses for
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the banner space.
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We understand burrow council retains
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responsibility for determining how the
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public space can best serve the
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community.
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The paid board therefore voted
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unanimously to authorize me to publicly
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communicate that while we sincerely
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appreciate council support, we would
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fully support repurposing the space
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should council determine that another
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use would be better meet Pottstown's
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current needs.
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There is no doubt that a strong common
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desire exists among residents,
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businesses, community organizations, and
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elected officials to continue to
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strengthen this town to reach its full
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potential.
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Paid is a committed community partner
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prepared to explore new and creative
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ways to promote Pottstown and its
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business community as part of that
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effort. Again, we thank Burl Council for
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its continued support and hope this
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position provides greater flexibility as
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council considers future possibilities
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for those polls.
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So, I just have two other things. Um, 30
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North Hover has had its permits issued
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and it is getting ready to frame. So
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they will be moving on with that
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residential project.
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Um Fedlancc is this Friday. 28% of those
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attendees are new attendees. They've
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never been before, which is great. 77%
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of people attending are from outside of
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the burrow. Of that 77%,
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13% are 1946.
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Why do we care about these numbers? We
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care about these numbers because they
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support the business community and they
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are here to enjoy Pottstown in a
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positive light. So it is great way to
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market Pottstown and understand what we
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all know about how great this town is.
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And we had such an event this past
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weekend.
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So, uh, not only did downtown do very
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well, Sly Fox, record numbers, talked to
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the businesses when I was here on
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Saturday, there were record numbers of
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sales by our business community. And so,
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without further ado, I'd like to give
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Jamie or the mic.
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[applause]
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Thank you for that. And thank you to the
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town, the every department in the
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burough, public works, the Boy Scouts,
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every single person in town. Um, we knew
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it was going to be bigger. We knew it
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was going to be more popular. Pottstown
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is a name known now throughout the car
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community. And I brought the magazine
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that is on sale currently in
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supermarkets across Europe where you
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fold the front page out and it has a map
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of Pottstown in it as the trifold. So if
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anyone would like a copy, I'm
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>> That's nice. Yes, absolutely. [applause]
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I'm overwhelmed. Thank you. [laughter]
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Um, yeah, Friday was exceptional. We for
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the businesses our we worked with Bid
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and we really implemented a new traffic
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strategy to try and make it safer for
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there and easier to hang out with the
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businesses and it was unbelievable. Um,
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it did lead on to Saturday night where
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for about 2 hours there was a lot of
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noise after 10 p.m. Um, we are angry.
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Um, I denounce it. We have gone on
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social media. We have asked for people
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to report them. I have walked into
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police station myself and reported one
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car um who was not the type of car that
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is able to register, but we have their
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name. We have the evidence for them and
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we've submitted a report for that. So,
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we are
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I not to bring up something negative.
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This is something I really believe in.
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Um and so it's not acceptable. We don't
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want it. We haven't really had it before
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and we don't want to have it again and
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we know it's part and parcel. And not to
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make excuses, but if there's 20 people
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out of 20,000, whatever the number ends
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up being as a estimate, um it's still
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not okay. Um I live on the 800 block. I
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asked my neighbors the next morning, did you hear anything? And they said no,
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but I know we have residents right here.
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So, I am hopefully visibly upset about
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that. Um, and we've talked to the police
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already and debriefed about next year
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what we can do
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not only better cuz if you see the
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videos, we were out there, you see our
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yellow vest, etc. Um, moving on to
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Sunday. Oh my gosh, the town looked
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amazing. Um, it it was just phenomenal.
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Um, I love one quote from a resident,
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one of my neighbors. Normally, we we
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look down in Pstown when we walk.
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Sometimes we look for a crack in the
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sidewalk. We look for whatever might be
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there. um maybe we don't always make eye
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contact in the evening and for low show
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everyone looks up they look up proud
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they look up to meet people they look up
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at the architecture and that one really
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hits me so um yeah I heard our genttos
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sold out of pizza bases I have to go
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over in a moment and uh say thanks to
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them um but to everyone just just thank
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you to the town I I thank you for
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putting out the patience of the traffic
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and everything um it's greatly
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appreciated and to the library I think
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the number has come out with our donor
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match to about 13 and a half thousand to
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their campaign. Um [applause]
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» um they physically ran out of time
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because they [laughter] they couldn't
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print the license plate fast enough to
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get everyone done. So we're already kind
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of brainstorming what more can we do for
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that. Um North Coventry Fireh Hall with
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their fundraiser as well um they were
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turning people away. There was so many
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people trying to go in and they do it by
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selling food. you can buy your hot dogs
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kasa etc. Um I'm going to let us get on
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because this is a long meeting but
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really thank you to every single person
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in Pottstown. I think we doubled the
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population for the weekend and people
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went home around the world and have been
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sending such beautiful lovely messages.
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Um we have a lot of them saved but I I
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won't share them. And this the first
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time we've received an email from a
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local citizen other than saying thanks
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about the noise. And so to that one
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person, I genuinely thank them for
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taking the time to email. Um, and I I'm single out the one out of the
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thousand positive, but it's so important
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to us. Um, so yeah, we look forward to working with everyone again next year
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and and to every department. I can't
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list you all, but thank you.
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>> So,
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>> hey Jamie. [applause]
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Hey Jamie. Jamie. Jamie.
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>> Jamie. Sorry.
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>> Tremendous job. Question for you. What
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came up to me is is that would it be
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possible? You said you had a lot of
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registrants that you couldn't put in
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there because you had not enough space.
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Is there a possibility that we could
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possibly make this the world's largest,
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longest car show? Do we have the do we
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have the I know we have the space on
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High Street because they were at my
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house.
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>> Okay.
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>> So to to that we have not increased
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registration. Um it sells out very
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quickly. people know when it goes live.
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We have reached our limit of how many
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cars we can park in a few hours. And
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then all the infrastructure, if people
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don't know, that's why we implemented
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the one-way system because last year we
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set up magically overnight. People go to
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sleep at 8 or 10 p.m. 11:00 p.m. on
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Saturday and then we start setting up
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and it just wasn't safe. We had our
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first small minor accident with a
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forklift last year and we said, "Nope,
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daylight hours only. this isn't
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feasible.
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>> And so we submitted the plan and I I
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truly thank everyone. I think it worked
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really well.
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>> Um but we just don't have enough time to
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we're parking 8.3 cars per minute once
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the show opens in the morning and it's
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spread across seven blocks or so, but
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it's still it's a mammoth undertaking.
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So when we look to try and expand to
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allow more people to register and the
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registrations they sign a release an
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agreement with their we check their ID
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when they collect a registration we have
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their number plate we have their phone
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number their address and we say we will
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release it to the police so f or anyone
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we see fit except for commercial game um
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and not one of those people we've ever
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really caught acting up they might park
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in the wrong place we give them a phone
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call they come running but to that we
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would love do our our next issue is
[12:18]
going to be how do we fund this many
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portaotties for 3 days. [laughter]
[12:23]
Our portaotties were we went 50% higher
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but we didn't expect Friday night and so
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by Sunday we were cleaning we were doing
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the trash as fast as we possibly could
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and it's a wonderful problem. The
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businesses are selling takeouts. They're
[12:38]
having a great time but so to that I
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like the registrations. It means they're
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registered with us. We keep track of
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them. They put in money. Otherwise, when
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you park outside, which we saw down to
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the 900 block this year on Sunday. Um,
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they don't put a penny in unless they
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put money into the businesses or buy a
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sticker or something, a t-shirt from us.
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Um, I also I would I don't want to take
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up too much time. I'm sorry. I would
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love to include the 400 blog.
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>> I really there's businesses there.
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There's a great Chinese. He saw a bump
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in business. I would love to to bring
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that block in and then we get into the
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library block and then we're into the
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beautiful 600 700 block which are some
[13:20]
of the most pretty in town. It's it's
[13:22]
just logistics. I don't know a way to
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increase. But if I can include more of
[13:26]
the businesses and then that gives our
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attendees more opportunities to buy
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reasonably priced meals and sodas so
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they have a great time. Wonderful. I I
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just haven't
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>> tracked logistics but thank you for
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asking.
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>> Yeah. Well, I'll help if you want.
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[laughter] Okay,
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>> that's it. I think I think that's it for
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the questions for up here, I believe.
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Okay.
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>> Okay. Thank you all. So, thank you,
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Paul. Really? [applause]
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» I will leave those there. I'm being told
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to go back to work.
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>> No, I said go back to bed. [laughter]
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>> You haven't slept in days.
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>> Okay. Uh, economic development. That's
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the report.
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>> Okay. [laughter]
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>> Can we go on to land bank?
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>> Yes.
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>> Okay. Thank you. Uh so I wanted to give
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an example of um because again sometimes
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I slip and I go onto social media and I
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see the comments and then I feel like I
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have to re-educate people. Right?
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>> So land bank the two ways that land bank
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can get properties are donations
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or through buying a tax sale. And
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generally they are not purchased at the
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sheriff's sale. They are purchased at
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the judicial sale. By law, land banks
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have the ability to have a priority bid,
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which means all that requires is
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contacting the county and saying the
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land bank would like to exercise its
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priority bid and purchase
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X property.
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if those get pulled because those taxes
[15:07]
get paid or they don't the county
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doesn't feel like they've served the
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individuals whether that be an
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individual or their heirs it can get
[15:17]
pulled as was the case in 76 North Adams
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which is now stayed until December.
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Then there is the issue of federal
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leans. If there are federal leans on the
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property, the land bank will not pursue
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them because they are more difficult.
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So, it's not just about title issues as
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was sort of alluded to on social media.
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There are things that go into the
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decision making of the land bank's
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decision to purchase. And just to give
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you one final idea of what happens is in
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the sheriff's sale when Portnoff sends
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things to sheriff's sale, which is the
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school district and the burough's
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collection agency, when they get sent,
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there is no priority bid there, but the
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land bank has chosen to sign up for bid
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for assets, which allows them to bid
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with everybody else. They were prepared
[16:18]
to do that on a property 379 Beach
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Street. It got pulled at the last
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minute. It may get continued in the
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future, but this is not unusual. Just to
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show you in throughout the county, there
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were 44
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that were postponed.
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Only eight went up for sale throughout
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the county. So, so it's not that Land
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Bank doesn't want to acquire properties.
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they are doing the best they can.
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Sometimes also the market is doing very
[16:50]
well. So those properties are being
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bought by the private market and that is
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my report for land bank.
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>> Becky, I have a question. I came across
[17:00]
a situation and I wanted to know if
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there was a policy that that the land
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bank has. Does the land bank uh exclude
[17:08]
burough counselors or other elected
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officials like the school board members
[17:13]
or their spouses from purchasing land
[17:16]
bank houses, okay, at let's say putting
[17:19]
4% down and then getting the rest in a
[17:22]
land bank mortgage and then turning
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around and flipping that eight months
[17:27]
later for five times its value. Is there
[17:30]
anything that prevents us from us here
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from profiting like that from landbank
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properties?
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And if there isn't, should there be one?
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>> So that that probably is the case um for
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in the policy. I don't know.
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Yeah,
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[clears throat]
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>> I [laughter]
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honestly cannot
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policy.
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>> Excuse me. Could you wait until the
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microphone works?
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Excellent.
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» The bet.
[18:24]
>> Thank you. Sorry to make you wait.
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[clears throat]
[18:31]
Thank you. Okay.
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Good.
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>> Okay.
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>> Thank you.
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>> So, I do not know where the policies and
[18:38]
procedures that would be stated. It
[18:41]
could be something that was looked into
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and I will certainly discuss it with the
[18:44]
land bank and their solicitor. That's my
[18:47]
answer. I don't know. What I do know is
[18:50]
that there is a pre-application and
[18:53]
there is an application that people
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identify themselves as who they are,
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right? It's not like you can hide behind
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an LLC, right?
[19:04]
>> We are familiar with who the individuals
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are.
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>> Does that make sense?
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>> Right. So, but you think that that's a
[19:10]
good practice or a bad practice? Does it
[19:12]
look good for everyone? It doesn't look
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good.
[19:15]
>> I would say it does not look good.
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>> Okay.
[19:17]
>> I hope I said that in a nice way.
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>> Yes. Okay.
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Anybody else? Okay. Thank you.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Okay. Business Improvement District
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Council Manra and
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>> pass that off to Miss Danielle K.
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>> Okay. I was just about to introduce her.
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And Danielle Art District presentation.
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>> All right.
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>> So, a little more fun than uh land bank.
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Uh [clears throat] I'm going to give a
[19:51]
quick update on the bid.
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>> Uh we're planning Stata Saturday. That's
[19:56]
December 5th. Mark your calendars. It's
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going to be really fun. We're going to
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go a little bigger this year. We've got
[20:01]
a whole committee that are now working
[20:02]
on uh the events that are going to
[20:04]
happen that day. Uh the Pottstown Film
[20:06]
Festival, the bid is working with to
[20:09]
promote and help get the word out. It is
[20:11]
their fourth year and I just got word
[20:14]
that we are going to have Kate Flanigan
[20:17]
at this event. She's going to be a
[20:19]
speaker and we're working on figuring
[20:22]
out some of the logistics of showing a
[20:24]
film that she's in uh that is releasing
[20:26]
at the end of September.
[20:29]
Uh we held our first small business
[20:31]
workshop uh to help small businesses
[20:34]
learn how to do their jobs better and
[20:36]
the next one is on October 20th. I
[20:39]
highly encourage small businesses to
[20:41]
come and get this information. uh learn
[20:44]
the things you don't know, the things
[20:46]
that you you're not entirely certain
[20:49]
about. Uh and that's what the point of
[20:51]
that is. Wednesday, we just had our
[20:53]
first kickoff for a networking group
[20:55]
where we're bringing all businesses
[20:56]
owner owners together to meet each
[20:59]
other, talk, help support one another.
[21:01]
If you sell insurance and this business
[21:04]
sells coffee, you can work together. You
[21:06]
buy coffee, you buy insurance, we get
[21:08]
together and just talk as businesses. Uh
[21:12]
we're also working on the parking lot at
[21:16]
the clock tower on Charlotte and High
[21:18]
Street with the Rotary to do some new
[21:20]
plants. We're planting perennials. We
[21:23]
did get some donations of bulbs from uh
[21:27]
Colonial Gardens and Lowe's or Home
[21:30]
Depot has committed to giving us some
[21:34]
mulch and some hands to help. So, if you
[21:39]
are interested in putting some bulbs in
[21:41]
the ground, come join us. It'll be a fun
[21:43]
day with Rotary. And that is on October
[21:48]
9th. I didn't put it down on my on my
[21:51]
thing. 9th is [clears throat] going to
[21:52]
be busy. Uh, so arts district. So, one
[21:58]
of the things that I am working on for
[22:00]
Main Street designation is that I have
[22:04]
to come up with three projects that I
[22:06]
want to do over five years. and where
[22:07]
those funds might be allocated.
[22:11]
One of those projects is the arts
[22:13]
district and I really wanted to share it
[22:14]
with you guys so that you get an idea of
[22:17]
the stuff that I the transformation I
[22:19]
want to see in this town. So,
[22:25]
North Charlotte from high to beach right
[22:28]
now is a dead section of our town. There
[22:32]
are 10 empty storefronts that have some
[22:35]
of been empty for 20 or more years.
[22:40]
I want to turn it into this.
[22:43]
I want to see art events. I want to have
[22:46]
the road closed at Charlotte and have
[22:49]
people come to buy art, see art,
[22:51]
interact with art.
[22:56]
But why now? Why is besides the main
[22:59]
street planning and having that be a
[23:02]
part of my plan, there are a lot of
[23:04]
grant funds, a lot of state grant funds
[23:06]
and a lot of other corporate funds to
[23:10]
fund such a district.
[23:13]
Also, our arts community has been
[23:16]
growing by leaps and bounds. In the last
[23:18]
just five years, we're seeing a huge
[23:21]
jump.
[23:24]
So the grants DCDE
[23:28]
on top of designation, they have grants
[23:31]
for arts specifically. They're earmarked
[23:33]
for arts. The PA creative communities
[23:37]
has an arts designation that we could
[23:39]
pick up. There's LSA grants. There's uh
[23:43]
creative and innovation impact grants.
[23:45]
Some of these I could apply for tomorrow
[23:47]
morning because now I've presented it to
[23:49]
you guys.
[23:51]
Then there's private sector grants.
[23:53]
Walmart has a spark local spark local
[23:57]
grant that is for small businesses that
[24:00]
I could tie together and help people get
[24:03]
started. There's a lot of PNC uh I could
[24:08]
keep listing this but and this
[24:09]
presentation would be only those grants.
[24:12]
So there's a lot of opportunity for us
[24:15]
to pour some funds into our arts
[24:18]
community.
[24:21]
Why Charlotte Street? Other than the
[24:24]
fact that there's 10 empty businesses,
[24:28]
there's also existing businesses. If
[24:31]
you're not familiar with Beekeepers,
[24:33]
they do a ton of art events. A ton.
[24:36]
Right next door, you have Art Fusion
[24:38]
that has been doing art stuff for 20
[24:41]
years. Through thick and thin, they've
[24:44]
been sticking it out. On the other end,
[24:48]
we have Danny B. Funky. We really enjoy
[24:51]
Danny B. Funky. We want to support that.
[24:54]
We also have Charlotte Street Coffee,
[24:57]
which is very artsy fartsy. Artists love
[25:00]
to sit and talk over coffee. It is very
[25:02]
poised as it stands today. The YW.CA is
[25:06]
on board for this idea. They love it. It
[25:09]
would be right in the heart of their
[25:11]
home. New businesses. We have a new
[25:15]
gallery coming in in between the record
[25:17]
store and Charlotte Street Coffee that
[25:20]
is Nexus Cafe or Nexus Gallery. And I
[25:24]
I'm excited to see what they're planning
[25:26]
to do. So there's and we also
[25:30]
Mudslingers is putting in a pottery
[25:32]
store in the old Lastic Building.
[25:36]
They are going to be selling pottery.
[25:38]
They're going to be selling pottery
[25:39]
supplies and there are going to have art
[25:42]
studios in the back. All of this was
[25:45]
slated before I even thought of an arts
[25:48]
district.
[25:52]
So, our history, Steel River has been
[25:54]
serving our community since 2008 with
[25:57]
showing us the performing arts. We have
[26:00]
High Street Music, which has been
[26:01]
teaching us how to be musical.
[26:05]
art fusion has been teaching us how to
[26:07]
push our boundaries and try something
[26:08]
that might be a little uncomfortable but
[26:10]
oh so fun.
[26:12]
>> And then we have PAG that has been
[26:14]
around since 1960.
[26:16]
They are an art community.
[26:20]
This is our base. These are the people
[26:23]
that went through the hard parts that
[26:26]
really worked to get us here to define
[26:28]
who we are as an art community.
[26:33]
Today we've expanded without having any
[26:36]
grant funds or allocating or saying yes,
[26:38]
we want to see you here. Yes, we're
[26:40]
inviting you here. All of these people
[26:43]
are putting in the effort to show us
[26:46]
that they're here for art.
[26:51]
So, what's the benefits of an arts
[26:53]
district?
[26:55]
Way more foot traffic, having art
[26:58]
events. People come in, they look at
[27:00]
art, they're gonna want to eat. They're
[27:03]
gonna want to have a drink after they're
[27:05]
done. They're going to go, "Oh, there's
[27:07]
a shoe store right here. I might want to
[27:08]
get shoes." It just puts more bodies
[27:11]
down in our town that need it.
[27:14]
Business visibility. The businesses that
[27:16]
are already there. There's a lot of
[27:19]
Henry's Cafe. How many people outside of
[27:21]
our community know Henry's Cafe even
[27:23]
exists?
[27:26]
But it will give him visibility.
[27:29]
It gives local artists an opportunity to
[27:32]
engage in our economic development.
[27:36]
Youth involvement. Our schools are
[27:38]
incredibly artsy. Pottstown High School.
[27:42]
I Their artists are incredible.
[27:45]
I I got the opportunity to judge the
[27:49]
high school show that was at Montco in
[27:51]
the this spring and oh my god it was way
[27:55]
harder than I thought it was going to
[27:57]
be. [laughter]
[27:58]
Um and I and Hill School and we're just
[28:03]
giving them a place to see that this is
[28:07]
a value in a community.
[28:11]
This is North Charlotte Street as it
[28:12]
stands today and what it could be
[28:14]
tomorrow.
[28:30]
These are the two new businesses that I
[28:32]
referred to
[28:35]
year one. So, this is not a fast thing.
[28:38]
This is a fiveyear plan. And even then,
[28:40]
it's going to have to go beyond that.
[28:43]
We're going to have to love and care for
[28:44]
it. We need to form an advisory
[28:47]
committee under the bid that states how
[28:51]
we go forward with these grants. Which
[28:53]
ones do we go after? Which ones we don't
[28:56]
confirm the district name. It needs a
[28:58]
name. There are cute little towns that
[29:00]
have awesome arts districts and they
[29:02]
have fun names, but what makes it
[29:03]
Pottstown?
[29:06]
We need to work with the property owners
[29:08]
and we need to attract new businesses. I
[29:11]
really want to pull from the areas
[29:14]
around us that are currently getting
[29:16]
priced out or they've done so well in
[29:19]
their other homes that they're looking
[29:20]
to have a second location.
[29:24]
Year two, I want to start seeing artwalk
[29:26]
events. I want to have Charlotte Street
[29:29]
shut down where we go and have art
[29:31]
walks. We bring in vendors, do popups on
[29:34]
inside those shops, very much like the
[29:36]
Low Show does.
[29:38]
I'd like to get signage and facades
[29:42]
grants so that we can have our new
[29:44]
identity on that street and then digital
[29:48]
marketing really pushing it out to
[29:51]
Facebooks, the socials, web page.
[29:55]
Year three to five storefronts start
[29:58]
coming online. We are now doing regional
[30:01]
marketing and we're having public
[30:04]
installations
[30:06]
and a large yearly event.
[30:13]
With that said, I did didn't have a
[30:15]
slide for this, but I wanted to add it
[30:17]
and I think it's important to to talk
[30:19]
about. Lancaster has what's called
[30:22]
Gallery Row and they are one of the
[30:26]
foremost places in this area to go to
[30:29]
buy art.
[30:31]
The artists that we have talked to make
[30:34]
all of their money in a year at those
[30:37]
events that Lancaster holds. It's
[30:40]
prestigious. If you get accepted into
[30:42]
one of these art shows that happen in
[30:44]
Lancaster, it's prestige.
[30:47]
and that I want Pottstown. When you say
[30:50]
you got accepted into a Pottstown art
[30:52]
show, it comes with prestige.
[30:58]
So, how can you help? I need letters of
[31:00]
support. I'm going to be coming maybe to
[31:03]
you personally or I will be coming to
[31:05]
you more publicly like this asking for
[31:08]
support letters so that when I apply for
[31:10]
grants the burrows on my side, the
[31:12]
businesses are on my side, the artists
[31:14]
are on my side and they want this.
[31:18]
So that's how I would love for you guys
[31:21]
to help and thank you so very much. Are
[31:25]
there any questions?
[31:28]
>> Yes.
[31:29]
Is [clears throat] there any thought to
[31:31]
putting steel river which is pretty much
[31:34]
the definition of art other than
[31:39]
>> so I've thought about it I thought about
[31:42]
it a lot and I will tell you why I
[31:44]
landed on where I landed one that
[31:48]
section of high street doesn't need help
[31:50]
right now and it does have its own
[31:52]
entertainment identity there's
[31:55]
entertainment spaces right next door to
[31:57]
them.
[31:59]
>> And number two, I want to shut down the
[32:02]
arts district road. I don't want to shut
[32:04]
down High Street.
[32:06]
>> Okay. But you you do know who's the
[32:08]
president of Steel River.
[32:09]
>> I am very familiar. Okay. Yes. Yes.
[32:11]
Okay. I Okay.
[32:13]
>> There a lot of
[32:14]
>> and I have spoken with him and and
[32:17]
unless it's in there,
[32:19]
>> I understand.
[32:19]
>> He's not going to support it. And he
[32:23]
told me that he I could say that. did
[32:24]
talk with Steel River and they are on
[32:27]
board with me. Uh Velva is with me on
[32:31]
the choice of not including them because
[32:34]
she does not want the road shut down.
[32:36]
>> Velva's not going to help you get
[32:37]
grants.
[32:38]
>> I I understand that.
[32:39]
>> Okay. Okay.
[32:40]
>> And Joe, just think about it. And I
[32:43]
invite Joe to give me a call so that we
[32:45]
can talk about it.
[32:46]
>> I will tell him that.
[32:48]
>> Thank you. Okay.
[32:49]
>> I have a state comment. Um,
[32:53]
years ago I went to Lan Lancaster,
[32:56]
however you say it. Um, and I went to an
[32:59]
art event and I'm sure you probably
[33:01]
heard of this before,
[33:02]
>> but um, I thought it was really cool was
[33:06]
the fact that the the businesses
[33:08]
sponsored artist
[33:10]
>> and they had maps.
[33:12]
>> They gave people maps and you would go
[33:13]
from business to business and see the
[33:15]
artist work. Yes.
[33:16]
>> It was really it's really good fun
[33:17]
event.
[33:18]
>> Yes. Um, have you ever done that before
[33:19]
in Pakistan or or have we?
[33:21]
>> Not to that degree.
[33:22]
>> Okay.
[33:23]
>> No, not not nearly as organized as that.
[33:26]
Um, and I would love to start seeing
[33:28]
that.
[33:28]
>> Yeah. Yeah. That that was really fun. I
[33:30]
enjoyed that.
[33:30]
>> I love what Lancaster does. Absolutely.
[33:33]
And it does well for the businesses and
[33:35]
the artists.
[33:37]
>> I love this idea. I think this is a
[33:39]
great idea. I mean, I'm always sort of
[33:40]
thinking about what makes Pottstown
[33:42]
unique, and I think our arts footprint
[33:44]
is what makes us unique, and the idea of shining a light on that is great. I
[33:48]
was just thinking about when you were
[33:49]
talking about the the popups. I mean,
[33:51]
first, I would love to see some of those buildings. I mean, they could be
[33:55]
pop-up shops that could support local
[33:57]
artists or people trying out a business
[33:59]
model or something like that. I love
[34:01]
that idea. Yeah. And I was also thinking
[34:02]
that in the recent streetscapes uh
[34:04]
thing, they talked about using Penn
[34:06]
Street as like um uh shut shutting it
[34:09]
down and using it for like a local
[34:10]
thing. I'm thinking how awesome would
[34:12]
that be to do like an art show right
[34:14]
then and there. I mean, I know it's kind
[34:16]
of a little, you know, small and I think
[34:18]
that's what I know, you know, to your to
[34:20]
your artwork that you showed of of of
[34:22]
Charlotte. I think that would be kind of
[34:24]
a cool space to be able to shut it down
[34:27]
pretty easily in terms of I mean I might
[34:29]
be saying that and it may not actually
[34:30]
be easy in terms of a logistics point of
[34:32]
view but I was just thinking that that
[34:33]
would be an opportunity for us to try to
[34:36]
do some things [music] in the in that
[34:38]
given area and not have to make a big
[34:40]
impact. I mean I think you know when we
[34:42]
do the um the the church walk every good
[34:45]
Friday we're always walking down
[34:46]
Charlotte Street and people are like
[34:48]
this is the part of town that kind of
[34:50]
bums us out. you know, you get on High
[34:52]
Street and things are happening. There's
[34:54]
all kinds of this shop and that shop.
[34:55]
When you're walking down Charlotte, just does not jump out at you
[34:59]
like it should, but there's so much
[35:00]
great architecture and there's so many
[35:02]
great storefronts and to I think to
[35:04]
frame it around that lens is a really cool idea. You know, it's not
[35:09]
that you're not opening it up to other
[35:10]
businesses, but you're just saying like,
[35:12]
look, let's if we can frame this with
[35:14]
the idea of art in mind, then that
[35:16]
allows us sort of hyperfocus on what's
[35:18]
going on there. And then people are
[35:21]
making that walk down Charlotte and
[35:22]
they're going, "Oh, there's this place
[35:24]
and there's a coffee shop down here and
[35:25]
then I want to go check out this place
[35:26]
and I want to go see what our fusions
[35:28]
got going on." And that's that's that's
[35:30]
a very exciting idea.
[35:33]
>> Yeah, I think this is great, too. I
[35:34]
mean, I this is one of the reasons I
[35:35]
came to Potttown 20 years ago because a
[35:36]
friend of mine had art center in
[35:37]
Phoenixville and he wanted to kind of
[35:38]
recreate it which was the former
[35:41]
building. Actually met my wife at the
[35:42]
one in Phoenixville. So, [laughter]
[35:44]
>> you know, the recession threw a little
[35:46]
curveball on it, but now we have hard
[35:48]
fusions. It came to fruition eventually.
[35:50]
So, that's great.
[35:52]
>> I am thrilled about the pottery. Um, my
[35:56]
sister's a professor. She teaches
[35:57]
pottery at a local college uh in
[36:00]
Maryland.
[36:00]
>> Yeah.
[36:01]
>> So, I am thrilled. I'm going to tell her
[36:03]
>> come get a job.
[36:04]
>> Yeah.
[36:04]
>> Leave there. Come [laughter] here.
[36:09]
» Anything else?
[36:11]
>> Thank you so much for your time.
[36:12]
>> Yes. Thank you. [applause]
[36:25]
» Okay. I have library
[36:28]
Joe. I'm gonna try to pronounce it this
[36:29]
time. Boss,
[36:31]
>> you do have a challenge because it is
[36:32]
misspelled on the agenda.
[36:33]
>> Okay. Well, then I'm not spell. Not
[36:36]
[clears throat] the name. You think they
[36:37]
[laughter] got the last noun?
[36:39]
>> No, the last one. I thought I said
[36:41]
that's not how you spell Joe, but okay.
[36:43]
>> My name is Jaspa [laughter] apparently
[36:45]
and I'm here to talk to you about the
[36:46]
library.
[36:47]
>> Yes, absolutely.
[36:48]
>> A few mistakes today. [laughter]
[36:51]
>> It's okay.
[36:52]
So, um, this is not the
[36:56]
format that I generally prefer because
[36:58]
usually I prefer to bring, you know, a
[37:00]
happy librarian to say the fun.
[37:02]
>> Oh, that's why she's not here.
[37:04]
>> And then I say the other part, um,
[37:08]
>> which is, uh, you're not going to have
[37:09]
these fun things because you're not
[37:11]
funding the library. [laughter] Um, but
[37:13]
I don't have a librarian here tonight.
[37:15]
Uh, so I'm gonna say the nice stuff,
[37:17]
>> okay?
[37:17]
>> And the not so nice stuff.
[37:18]
>> Okay. The first thing I need to say is
[37:21]
thank Jamie our and the Low Show.
[37:23]
$13,000 is is deeply impactful. It was a
[37:27]
really positive atmosphere. I I know I
[37:29]
saw you there. I was I was uh sweating
[37:32]
making license plates when you came to
[37:34]
say hi. So, it's it's all kind of a
[37:35]
blur. I'm pretty sure you were you were
[37:38]
working. You was hustling. Yeah. On
[37:40]
Sunday, it was hot, too. It was a good
[37:42]
day.
[37:42]
>> You did a good job. Yeah. Both of you.
[37:44]
>> The hardest job were the people waiting
[37:45]
in line. I at least got to be under the
[37:47]
tent.
[37:48]
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[37:48]
>> Um, so that was that was awesome. Um,
[37:50]
our programming attendance is the
[37:52]
highest it's ever been. Our circulation
[37:55]
is the highest it's ever been.
[37:57]
>> Uh, individual donors in Pottstown,
[38:00]
that's the highest it's ever been. So,
[38:02]
there's every indication is that the
[38:05]
community is using and supports the
[38:08]
library because all those indicators are
[38:10]
the highest they've ever been. We are
[38:12]
not funded in a way that indicates that
[38:15]
we want to have a library. That's
[38:17]
[clears throat] the harsh truth. So
[38:19]
depending on how you measure the
[38:21]
municipal contributions to the library,
[38:24]
there's two ways to measure it.
[38:26]
Depending on how you measure it, we are
[38:28]
either the second worst funded library
[38:30]
in the county or we're the worst funded
[38:33]
library in the county. So if you measure
[38:35]
the generous way, we're only the second
[38:37]
worst. Um we have raised this issue I
[38:41]
think many times. Um, the funding level
[38:44]
has remained at the level that it's at
[38:46]
while expenses go up every year,
[38:48]
year-over-year.
[38:49]
Um,
[38:51]
so I'm not saying I obviously we're going to try and preserve the
[38:55]
library as long as we can. And there are
[38:58]
steps there are things that happen
[39:01]
between where we are right now, we are
[39:03]
here, and not having a library at all,
[39:06]
which is here. There are there are in
[39:08]
between steps. And so I want you guys
[39:10]
because I don't want to hear a year from
[39:12]
now, you didn't tell us this was going
[39:13]
to happen. I'm telling you, I want you
[39:15]
to know what those in between steps are.
[39:18]
So number one, we look at the assets the
[39:20]
library has. We own the building on High
[39:23]
Street. It's a nice piece of real
[39:25]
estate. Um it would go quickly probably
[39:28]
if we wanted to sell it. We couldn't
[39:30]
guarantee what would be there, but we
[39:32]
could sell that, raise maybe a million
[39:34]
dollars that we could put in an
[39:35]
endowment and then secure a cheaper
[39:38]
piece of property outside the burrow
[39:40]
perhaps. So that's that's a step in
[39:43]
between. We are here and we don't have a
[39:46]
library. That's one potential step. Um
[39:50]
there's there's other alternatives. We
[39:51]
could restrict our hours. So maybe the
[39:53]
library is only open three days a week.
[39:57]
that could that could make the money we
[39:59]
have coming in and funding work and you
[40:02]
would still technically have a library.
[40:04]
So that's another potential in between
[40:07]
step between we are here and we don't
[40:10]
have a library. Um there are others but
[40:15]
they're they're probably even worse than
[40:16]
those two. So, I just I I want us to
[40:19]
keep in front of ourselves what the
[40:22]
possibilities are. Um, if there's not an
[40:26]
increase to municipal funding for the
[40:28]
library, that's at least on par with
[40:31]
what every other part of municipal
[40:34]
government has had. Maybe, maybe not
[40:36]
you. I'm just kidding.
[40:38]
But there needs to be something's got to
[40:40]
give or something's going to give in a
[40:41]
different direction is is my
[40:43]
communication to you because right now
[40:45]
we are funding the library in a way that
[40:47]
indicates contrary to all data usage,
[40:51]
circulation, programming, individual
[40:53]
contributions that indicates we do not
[40:56]
want a library. And if we continue to
[40:59]
fund it in that way, you may get
[41:01]
something in between now and that or you
[41:05]
may get that. That is that is the
[41:07]
reality we are facing and that is what I
[41:09]
want you to be aware of. That's not to
[41:11]
say we're not going to keep trying. I
[41:13]
was out there printing license plates.
[41:15]
We're [clears throat] we're out there.
[41:16]
We're asking for money. We're asking the
[41:19]
state for money. We're asking donors for
[41:21]
money. We're never going to stop trying.
[41:23]
But we need to be aware of the potential
[41:26]
reality. That's all. Do you have any
[41:28]
questions?
[41:32]
» No.
[41:33]
>> Thank you.
[41:36]
Yes. Yes. [applause] Thank you.
[41:42]
» Okay.
[41:44]
Potttown School District Council Ro.
[41:48]
>> Yeah. So, I was unable to attend August
[41:50]
20th meeting, but I did watch the
[41:52]
meeting afterwards on YouTube. Uh the
[41:54]
board recognized high school teacher
[41:56]
Mrs. Moore with the superintendent award
[41:58]
for raising over $18,000 for childhood
[42:01]
cancer research through Minithon. mini
[42:03]
thawn. It was also announced that Edward
[42:07]
Elementary's 57year-old air conditioning
[42:09]
chiller had completely failed, requiring
[42:12]
immediate temperature um mitigation and
[42:15]
the upcoming replacement uh is projected
[42:17]
to cost over a million dollars.
[42:21]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[42:24]
Now, I was told that our Madame Mayor is
[42:27]
online. So,
[42:30]
Madame Mayor,
[42:32]
>> yes, I'm here. Hold on one second.
[42:34]
>> Okay,
[42:35]
>> you're here.
[42:36]
>> Good evening, Madame President.
[42:38]
>> Thank you. Good evening.
[42:40]
>> Good evening, everyone. Uh Joe, I just
[42:43]
want to say it's really great to see
[42:45]
you. Welcome back.
[42:47]
>> Um since last time, uh McGomery County
[42:50]
Improvement District Authority presented
[42:51]
a check to Steel River to help with
[42:54]
building improvements, which was
[42:55]
fantastic. Um, I had the privilege of
[42:58]
attending the Bacon Brothers People in
[43:00]
the World Tour tour at Souljles, which
[43:03]
was fabulous. Please check Soulj's
[43:06]
website for um any of their upcoming
[43:10]
acts.
[43:12]
They have a lot of great shows coming
[43:13]
up. Um, I supported Veterans Community
[43:16]
Day. Spectators Grill, one of the new
[43:19]
restaurants, hosted our Rotary meeting.
[43:22]
Um, check out their wings if you haven't
[43:24]
already been there. Trita, I know you
[43:25]
will like them. They make them well
[43:27]
done. [laughter] And uh I want to thank
[43:30]
Andy and Michael for presenting to the
[43:32]
Rotary Club about our award-winning
[43:35]
parks and recreation program.
[43:38]
And I heard last weekend or this weekend
[43:41]
was last weekend was fantastic. I want
[43:43]
to thank Jamie our Red Horse and
[43:44]
Partners and the Pottstown Police
[43:47]
Department for a very successful
[43:48]
weekend. I received an email from um a
[43:52]
visitor Jennifer Capen um to the police
[43:55]
department which I would actually like
[43:56]
to read. Um she says, "I've been to the
[43:59]
V B VW shows for the last 30 years in
[44:02]
many towns in Pennsylvania, New Jersey,
[44:04]
and Maryland, and I have never sent any
[44:06]
emails to any police departments ever,
[44:08]
but you deserve a huge thank you. I know
[44:11]
this car show puts a lot of stress on
[44:13]
Pottstown. I am so impressed by how the
[44:16]
police really worked with the show and
[44:18]
the spectators and not against it. I saw
[44:21]
the police department solve problems
[44:24]
with calmness and the police presence
[44:26]
was there but not overbearing. It was
[44:29]
truly refreshing and I hope we all
[44:32]
returned your kindness with kindness.
[44:35]
So, thank you Jennifer. That was very
[44:37]
nice of you.
[44:39]
All right, let's see upcoming events.
[44:42]
Thursday, September 10th, uh, 6 to10 at
[44:45]
Rivet is the last big band jazz
[44:47]
orchestra.
[44:49]
Um, if you're not going to FET or if you
[44:52]
want to go to FET and then leave to go
[44:54]
see the Trojans play their home game at
[44:56]
Sun um, against Sun Valley, they are
[44:59]
playing 7:00 p.m. on the 11th.
[45:02]
Our uh, Pottstown Pet Fair is the 12th
[45:04]
from 10 to 2. Also on the 12th from
[45:08]
10:30 to 11:30 is the Da Vinci Science
[45:12]
Center program that will be held by the
[45:14]
Children's Discovery Center
[45:18]
>> at on September 12th at 11:00 a.m. at
[45:22]
the library. Um there's children's story
[45:26]
time and crafting with the Daughters of
[45:27]
the American Revolution.
[45:30]
The following Sunday the 13th from 10 to
[45:32]
3, go back to the library and buy some
[45:34]
used books. Um they're having on their
[45:37]
uh front porch book sale from 10 to
[45:39]
three.
[45:41]
And as you know um one of our residents
[45:43]
Dan Kyota who is a waiting
[45:45]
[clears throat] for a double lung
[45:46]
transplant and uh created the die
[45:50]
laughing uh nonprofit to support pen
[45:54]
medicine uh lung transplant lung
[45:58]
transplant candidates. He is having his
[46:02]
oneyear on Friday, September 18th, 6:30
[46:05]
to 11:30 at Rivet. Um his one-year die
[46:08]
laughing fundraiser. So, please come out
[46:10]
and support that. The following day,
[46:13]
September 19th, is Ride for the River.
[46:16]
Starts at Riverfront Park and they um
[46:19]
need some volunteers if you're
[46:21]
interested and riders, of course. I
[46:23]
think there's a a
[46:26]
35k
[46:28]
or 35 mile, a 10 mile, and a four mile,
[46:31]
I think. Um, and you can do anyone you
[46:35]
would like. September 19th, 9 to 12 is
[46:40]
at the zucchini festival and races at
[46:41]
Pottstown Farm.
[46:44]
September 26th, 10 to 12, Pottstown
[46:47]
Community Action is doing a cleanup from
[46:50]
North Franklin um on North Franklin from
[46:54]
East to Beach starting at 310 East High
[46:56]
Street. Um and they will provide all the
[46:59]
equipment. So just comment support.
[47:05]
» Sorry, did you have a question?
[47:08]
>> No, I don't. Go ahead.
[47:10]
>> I have feedback. Sorry. That's okay. Um
[47:13]
on the 26th 11 to1 is Veterans Community
[47:16]
Day and um that will be at Veterans
[47:19]
Island Memorial Park. Also on the 26th
[47:23]
at the Rotary Pavilion from 10 to 12 is
[47:26]
the Veterans Mini Standown where they
[47:29]
have assistance and outreach to support
[47:31]
um veterans. That is a monthly standown.
[47:34]
The next event for that is on October
[47:37]
24th, same time, 10 to 12 at the Rotary
[47:40]
Pavilion.
[47:42]
And September 29th is the ribbon cutting
[47:44]
for the Skookul River Trail at 100 p.m.
[47:47]
I have a couple Save the Dates. You guys
[47:50]
know October's crazy. Um October 3rd, 6
[47:54]
p.m. Night at the Races at the Carousel.
[47:57]
Uh supports our local youth and
[47:59]
education programs for the Foundation
[48:01]
for Pottstown Education.
[48:04]
October 3rd, 9:30, 10:30 shotgun start
[48:08]
is our third annual putt for parks mini
[48:10]
golf tournament. Need a twosome or a
[48:12]
foresome, please join. It's so much fun.
[48:15]
Um, if anyone I think we should get some
[48:18]
counselors on a team. Um, it's great to
[48:21]
see everyone out there and uh,
[48:24]
and I suck at golf, but I still play.
[48:27]
[laughter]
[48:28]
Um, the fifth is the 22nd annual Rotary
[48:33]
Community Endowment Fund Golf Outing,
[48:35]
which is our biggest fundraiser,
[48:36]
Brookside Country Club. If you are a
[48:38]
golfer, please, please, please sign up.
[48:41]
Um, starts at 9:30. Shotgun is at 11:30.
[48:45]
There's dinner and awards um, starting
[48:47]
at 6.
[48:49]
And October 8th from 5:30 to 8:30 is
[48:52]
Beacon of Hopes Evening of Impact
[48:55]
fundraiser at Sunny Brook Ballroom.
[48:59]
The 9th from 11 to 2, Goodwill Fire
[49:01]
Company is hosting a free child car seat
[49:04]
check with certified technicians. Um,
[49:07]
it's free practical injury prevention
[49:09]
and it connects families with public
[49:11]
health and safety professionals
[49:13]
organized by the Montgomery County
[49:15]
Health and Human Services Department and
[49:17]
Safe Kids of Southeastern PA.
[49:22]
And October 10th, 6 p.m., Tri County
[49:26]
Active Adult Center turns 50.
[49:29]
>> Um, so please join them um and celebrate
[49:32]
at their Groovy Gala fundraiser. It's
[49:34]
$150.
[49:37]
It includes dinner, auctions, dancing,
[49:40]
and fondue and wear 70s Groovy Gala
[49:43]
gear.
[49:44]
Um, Evan Hansen is coming up. Dear Evan
[49:47]
Hans Hansen is coming up at Steel River
[49:49]
October 9th uh through the 25th.
[49:52]
We've got Spooky Golf coming up October
[49:55]
16th
[49:57]
um 16th through the 18th, 23rd through
[50:00]
the 25th and then the 30th uh 5:30 to 8.
[50:05]
Honest October 17th, Edgewood Cemetery
[50:09]
Cleanup also the 17th.
[50:12]
And we just I'll stop there then we can
[50:16]
that's enough. Save the dates. Um and I
[50:19]
just have uh one announcement to
[50:21]
everyone who celebrates Russashana. Just
[50:23]
want to say leash tova tikativu
[50:29]
which means may you be inscribed and
[50:31]
sealed for a good year. So happy new
[50:33]
year everyone.
[50:34]
>> Thank you. And that concludes my report.
[50:37]
>> Okay. Thank you, Stephanie.
[50:41]
Manager's report, Mr. Keller.
[50:44]
>> All right. Yes. Good evening, everyone.
[50:46]
So, we've got a few important updates
[50:48]
for for everyone to tonight. Uh,
[50:50]
departments are currently working on
[50:52]
their uh 2027 budget. So, we plan to
[50:56]
present this uh to council in October
[50:59]
for initial review uh and discussion. Um
[51:03]
we started work on that on that back in the summer and we're now finally
[51:07]
starting to bring that into into landing
[51:09]
to take a first pass at it. Um if you
[51:12]
recall back in January the burough
[51:14]
received 35,000
[51:16]
LSA grant for facility improvements to
[51:19]
the Rickett Center. As the next step in
[51:22]
the process, parks and recreation issued
[51:24]
an RFP based on EPA guidelines for the
[51:27]
Rickettts architectural design services
[51:29]
and posted this to the burough website
[51:31]
and the newspaper and uh we're very
[51:34]
happy to report that we received 16 um
[51:37]
proposals which is very a very
[51:39]
encouraging response. Um now uh the RFP
[51:44]
uh the firm selected by the RFP will be
[51:47]
required to conduct several visioning
[51:49]
sessions with uh the Rickettts
[51:51]
leadership committee as well as as um
[51:54]
some public sessions with the general
[51:56]
community in general so that um we can
[51:58]
get everybody's feedback to provide
[52:01]
ideas that will help shape the final
[52:03]
scope of work. So, the the final scope
[52:05]
of work um there's a couple um more um
[52:08]
basic maintenance things that we know
[52:10]
we're going to do, but the final uh
[52:12]
scope of work is is um a little bit
[52:14]
malleable at this point because we have
[52:16]
other grants in the works. So now it
[52:19]
really comes the hard work of evaluating
[52:21]
this many proposals. And we envision
[52:24]
this process to consist of the staff
[52:25]
committee initially to review and rank
[52:28]
the proposals using objective rubric
[52:31]
compliant with federal procurement
[52:32]
standards. And then once the top
[52:34]
qualifying firms are identified, we
[52:36]
would plan to utilize the Rickettts
[52:39]
leadership committee to conduct
[52:40]
interviews of those shortlisted firms.
[52:43]
So, uh, I just want to say we're still
[52:46]
very early in the process. Um, and I
[52:49]
know that we have, um, Trita and Mike
[52:51]
Lenhard. Those are the ones that were
[52:53]
appointed to the Ricketts, uh,
[52:55]
leadership committee. However, if there
[52:58]
are any other counselors or members of
[52:59]
the community that would like to um, be
[53:02]
involved and and be a part of the
[53:04]
selection process, please let us know.
[53:06]
Um our only requirement is is that if
[53:09]
you would like to participate um those
[53:11]
interested must be able to attend all
[53:13]
the interview sessions. Otherwise um
[53:16]
their vote may not be able to be um
[53:18]
counted because they're not able to
[53:20]
compare all proposals um fairly at that
[53:23]
point. Um the to complete the selection
[53:27]
process, the Rick Rickettts leadership
[53:29]
committee would provide its
[53:30]
recommendation to council for a design
[53:32]
firm to hire and complete the grant
[53:34]
funded work and council would have a
[53:36]
final say regarding who to hire. Um we
[53:39]
have other submitted grants for the
[53:41]
Rickett Center center that are still
[53:43]
pending. one with Montgomery County CDBG
[53:48]
uh a DCED and GTRP in the amounts of
[53:52]
200,000 and $250,000 respectively. Um so
[53:56]
we're again we're still very very early
[53:58]
on. We haven't heard back from all the
[54:00]
grants and it's not expected to really
[54:02]
move forward with any of the engineering
[54:05]
design work subject to the RFP until we
[54:08]
get um an idea of all the funding that
[54:10]
we have in hand so that we can then
[54:12]
finalize that that that scope of work
[54:15]
and start to work with the community for
[54:17]
how we would envision that um to be
[54:20]
improved in the future. So, um,
[54:22]
definitely reach out, uh, if you would
[54:24]
like more information. Um, and I'll be
[54:27]
sure to keep everybody updated as we as
[54:29]
we move forward. I'm also happy to
[54:31]
announce that a $300,000 grant was rec
[54:34]
recently awarded through the Department
[54:36]
of Community and Economic Development.
[54:38]
Um, this was thanks to the advocacy of
[54:40]
Joe Sesi and this grant will go for
[54:43]
police equipment, streetscapes and
[54:45]
signage, and fire facility upgrades.
[54:48]
Since we originally asked for 2.5
[54:50]
million, uh we will have to figure out
[54:52]
how to allocate the reduced amount once
[54:54]
we get more details on the grant
[54:56]
agreement and how exactly we can spend
[54:58]
the money. We do know that it must be
[55:00]
spent on capital purchases. So, at least
[55:02]
initially, we're thinking of uh
[55:05]
allocating the fund funding equally
[55:06]
among the three main categories. So, um
[55:09]
in the meantime, please let us know if
[55:12]
there's any suggestions for priorities
[55:14]
within those categories and we can plan
[55:15]
accordingly.
[55:17]
Um uh we were saddened here at the bird
[55:20]
to hear the news regarding
[55:21]
[clears throat] Charlie Dickinson's
[55:22]
passing and um uh Charlie in addition to
[55:26]
being a Pottstown fixture and a guy that
[55:29]
um you know I could always rely on when
[55:31]
I needed something done to just get it
[55:33]
done and I wouldn't have to worry about
[55:34]
it. Um he also owned Part Inc. um which
[55:38]
the bureau contracts with to provide
[55:40]
public bus transportation to the
[55:42]
community through part. So Charlie had
[55:44]
been dealing with health issues for some
[55:46]
time and as a result succession planning
[55:48]
was previously completed with his
[55:50]
employees to ensure continuity of both
[55:53]
the operations so that the appropriate
[55:55]
plans are in place and we do not have to
[55:57]
anticipate any interruption to the part
[55:59]
service as a result of his um passing.
[56:02]
So things will continue to operate as
[56:06]
normal and on schedule um as they have
[56:09]
before.
[56:11]
As an update, um the Pottstown Beacon of
[56:14]
Hope shelter project, um all burough
[56:17]
permits have been processed and approved
[56:20]
and the land development plans have been
[56:22]
recorded. Licensing and inspections in
[56:24]
the county conservation district held a
[56:26]
pre-construction meeting with the
[56:27]
contractors on September 2nd and we
[56:31]
would expect them to be in a position to
[56:33]
break ground shortly. Uh one last update
[56:36]
regarding the water meter replacement
[56:38]
program that's going on throughout the
[56:39]
bureau. The bureau's contractor,
[56:41]
Lenigan, is working towards contacting
[56:43]
owners and installing an additional
[56:45]
1,500 meters. So, um, this is in
[56:48]
addition to the 1,200 they've already
[56:50]
installed. Um, under that previous
[56:53]
round, Lanigan is still working through getting into properties
[56:57]
to install about 300 meters that were
[56:59]
not installed in the first round. Um,
[57:03]
for the 300 left, um, we will soon start
[57:06]
the process of shutting off water if
[57:08]
property owners refuse to respond to
[57:10]
requests to make an appointment. So, if
[57:12]
you receive a letter from Lenigan, make
[57:14]
sure that you follow up and and schedule your appointment so you don't
[57:18]
end up on the water shut off list. Um,
[57:21]
all this information can also be found
[57:22]
on the bureau's website. Um, only those
[57:25]
that are contacted by Lenigan um, need
[57:28]
to uh, reply at this point. So, if you
[57:31]
weren't if you didn't get a
[57:32]
notification, um you're you're you're
[57:34]
okay for now. And then at some point, uh
[57:37]
we'll be coming to a neighborhood near
[57:39]
you to replace meters. And that
[57:42]
concludes my report.
[57:43]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[57:46]
Okay. The schedule amendment, Matt.
[57:49]
>> Yes. Thank you, Madam President. As
[57:52]
council [clears throat] will recall, uh,
[57:53]
several months ago, they adopted an
[57:55]
ordinance which amended the, uh, rental
[57:57]
ordinance scheme to include the option
[58:00]
for landlords to use a qualified
[58:02]
third-party inspector. Uh, that program
[58:05]
will go live in October. Uh, as part of
[58:09]
that, you need to update your fee
[58:10]
schedule to account for uh, the work
[58:12]
that has to be done in association with
[58:14]
that. As we talked about in the past,
[58:16]
fees have to relate to the amount of
[58:18]
work that's projected or actually done
[58:21]
um related to the the service. Your
[58:24]
current fee schedule uh for related to
[58:26]
the inspections, there's a $10
[58:28]
application fee. Uh and then there's a
[58:31]
per unit inspection fee uh that's graded
[58:34]
based on the number of units that are in
[58:35]
the the building. Uh LNI is proposing
[58:38]
adding to the fee schedule uh a flat fee
[58:41]
of $65
[58:43]
uh per uh inspection report and that's
[58:46]
to cover the time for the processing of
[58:47]
the application, the review of the the
[58:49]
report uh and then the response that
[58:52]
follows. Uh LNI is also proposing uh
[58:55]
instituting a $15 penalty fee, a late
[58:58]
fee uh for anyone who doesn't comply
[59:00]
with the the uh timing requirements in
[59:02]
the ordinance. Um, I believe the
[59:05]
ordinance requires 60 days before your
[59:07]
license is needed or due notifying uh
[59:09]
and initiating the process for the third
[59:11]
party inspection fee. Um, unless there's
[59:14]
any questions or concerns, we list this
[59:16]
on the consent calendar for Monday
[59:18]
evening.
[59:19]
>> Matt, a question. Is there a
[59:21]
differentiation between a burrow
[59:23]
inspector and a third party inspector?
[59:27]
I mean meaning what I mean is is is that
[59:30]
>> they have an option to either go through
[59:31]
the burrow or they can get a third party
[59:35]
inspector. Is the fee the same either
[59:37]
one?
[59:38]
>> No. The fee is higher to use the
[59:40]
burrow's inspector because the inspector
[59:42]
has to perform the actual task of doing
[59:44]
the inspection. So while this proposes a
[59:47]
lower fee for the third party inspector,
[59:49]
the landlord is still going to have to
[59:50]
pay for their own inspector. So we
[59:52]
project that the overall cost is still
[59:53]
going to be a little bit higher if you
[59:55]
use a third party inspector. So there's
[59:57]
incentive to hopefully use the burrows
[59:59]
inspector, but again landlords will have
[1:00:01]
that option.
[1:00:01]
>> What would we rather prefer? Would we
[1:00:03]
rather them do us or would we rather
[1:00:06]
them have a third party? I mean what
[1:00:09]
would be better for us
[1:00:13]
from a workload thing from a inspection?
[1:00:18]
What would be better? What would be
[1:00:19]
better for the the developer or the
[1:00:22]
owner? What would be better? Do we want
[1:00:24]
to push someone? Do we want to
[1:00:26]
incentivize someone to go into a third
[1:00:28]
party or do we want them to use us
[1:00:33]
because you could possibly
[1:00:38]
make it so that you get what you want,
[1:00:40]
which is maybe less stress on LNI by
[1:00:44]
incentiving them to use a third party
[1:00:48]
inspector. Is there any benefit to that
[1:00:51]
or I don't know. I was just asking this
[1:00:52]
question. Do we care? Yeah, I could
[1:00:55]
answer from the lawyer's perspective. I
[1:00:56]
don't know if Justin has anything from
[1:00:57]
the administrative side, but again, you
[1:01:00]
know, given the litigation, what we want
[1:01:01]
is a fair option that landlords can
[1:01:04]
choose either. So, at least in assessing
[1:01:07]
this, we're looking at what the cost
[1:01:08]
would be again to do the inspection
[1:01:10]
versus just process it. Obviously, it's
[1:01:12]
more time inensive for the inspector to
[1:01:14]
go out and do it. Um, but again, I'm I'm
[1:01:17]
most concerned about having fairly that
[1:01:20]
option out there. Oh,
[1:01:21]
>> okay. Yeah. I just didn't know if we
[1:01:22]
wanted one over the other for which
[1:01:24]
would be better for us as a burrow as a
[1:01:26]
better for L and I. Okay. And I didn't
[1:01:28]
know if we wanted to, you know, guide
[1:01:31]
people into that,
[1:01:33]
>> but no.
[1:01:34]
>> Yeah. No, I mean really it's just to
[1:01:36]
give people more more more choice and
[1:01:38]
try to meet the spirit of um you know,
[1:01:41]
some of the litigation that we're trying
[1:01:42]
to work through regarding the the rental
[1:01:44]
ordinance.
[1:01:45]
>> Um and so if people want to use that
[1:01:47]
option, they can. Um obviously there's
[1:01:49]
pros and cons to it. Yes, we would save
[1:01:51]
time if they used the the third party.
[1:01:54]
Um we also would lose um revenue uh more
[1:01:58]
than likely even though we have an
[1:02:00]
application fee. Um we would lose
[1:02:02]
revenue for the inspection that we would
[1:02:04]
actually do. And then I think that you
[1:02:06]
have to look at it from the standpoint
[1:02:07]
of the the back and [clears throat]
[1:02:10]
forth. Our inspectors know what what
[1:02:13]
they're um looking for. the third party
[1:02:17]
inspectors should know what they're
[1:02:18]
looking for, but if they they don't,
[1:02:20]
then that's where our administrative
[1:02:22]
review comes in and we say, "Well, you didn't inspect this and you didn't
[1:02:25]
expect inspect that." And then it
[1:02:27]
becomes a little bit of an
[1:02:28]
administrative thing going back and
[1:02:30]
forth. So,
[1:02:31]
>> okay,
[1:02:32]
>> hopefully that helps to answer the
[1:02:34]
question.
[1:02:35]
>> Um,
[1:02:37]
my my question is how did this come up
[1:02:40]
come about? Did was there issues with
[1:02:42]
scheduling? Was there issues with
[1:02:44]
landlords having issues with our
[1:02:46]
inspectors? I mean I mean how did this
[1:02:48]
third party idea
[1:02:50]
come into
[1:02:52]
being? [clears throat]
[1:02:54]
» This was our effort to sort of problem
[1:02:56]
solve the ongoing litigation uh over
[1:02:59]
Elani's need to use administrative
[1:03:00]
search warrants uh to go into properties
[1:03:03]
that are occupied by a tenant who
[1:03:05]
refuses an inspection. And the basis of
[1:03:07]
that litigation is concerned about you
[1:03:09]
know the government going into someone's
[1:03:11]
home where they live. So this provides
[1:03:13]
them an option where the landlord hires
[1:03:15]
someone completely independent of the
[1:03:16]
bureau, a non-governmental inspector,
[1:03:19]
you know, who can privately go in,
[1:03:21]
confirm the health and safety of the
[1:03:23]
unit and, you know, issue that to the
[1:03:26]
bureau, you know, showing that a
[1:03:27]
qualified professional has confirmed
[1:03:29]
that the the unit is safe to live in.
[1:03:31]
Okay.
[1:03:37]
If there's no other questions or
[1:03:38]
objections, I will list that Monday
[1:03:40]
evening for the consent calendar.
[1:03:43]
>> Okay. Thank you, Matt. Um, resolution
[1:03:46]
2027, uniform and nonuniform
[1:03:50]
pensions plan [clears throat] minimum
[1:03:53]
municipal obligation.
[1:03:56]
>> Yes.
[1:03:58]
>> Thank you, President Lindsay. Um, the
[1:04:00]
pension MMO, just as a reminder to
[1:04:02]
everyone, is the minimum annual
[1:04:04]
contribution the bureau is legally
[1:04:06]
required to make to its pension fund to
[1:04:09]
keep the plan properly properly funded
[1:04:11]
and meet future retirement obligations.
[1:04:14]
So, the calculation is based on
[1:04:16]
actuarial assumptions, payroll, pension
[1:04:18]
costs, and any unfunded liability uh in
[1:04:22]
the plan. um state pension aid uh that
[1:04:26]
we get from the state may also offset a
[1:04:28]
portion of the bureau's um actual cost,
[1:04:30]
but we do have to pay this um upfront.
[1:04:33]
And I will note that both pension boards
[1:04:36]
elected a smoothing method about a year
[1:04:38]
or so ago um which helps to present
[1:04:41]
which helps to prevent large swings in
[1:04:43]
the MMO from year to year. Um so while
[1:04:46]
this year um we did see increases, they
[1:04:49]
weren't um huge increases. So we're
[1:04:52]
looking at for 2027 the MMO will be
[1:04:57]
2,171,516
[1:05:01]
for the um uniformed or the police
[1:05:04]
pension. That's an increase of $110,420.
[1:05:09]
for the 2027 non-uniform pension that
[1:05:13]
MMO is $1,79,311
[1:05:17]
and that's a decrease of $25,51.
[1:05:22]
Um so the total net um uh change is an
[1:05:26]
increase of $85,269
[1:05:30]
uh dollars which that'll have to be
[1:05:32]
incorporated into our 2027 um budget
[1:05:36]
numbers. So, um, we would ask for
[1:05:39]
council's approval on those pension
[1:05:42]
contributions and we suggest adding that
[1:05:44]
to the consent agenda for Monday night.
[1:05:46]
>> Okay. Thank you, Justin. And while I
[1:05:48]
have you, um, resolution James Engles
[1:05:51]
retirement.
[1:05:53]
>> Yes, we have a retire retirement
[1:05:55]
resolution for James Engel who served 10
[1:05:58]
years in the public works garage. Um,
[1:06:00]
and we'll be placing that on Monday
[1:06:02]
night's uh, consent agenda for council
[1:06:05]
approval. Okay. And while I still have
[1:06:07]
you, um, Skoo River Trail directional
[1:06:11]
signs.
[1:06:12]
>> Yeah. So, exciting times here in
[1:06:14]
Pottstown. A lot of, um, great things
[1:06:16]
are happening. Uh, we finally now have
[1:06:19]
the Skookulo River Trail connected 70
[1:06:22]
miles all the way from Pottstown to
[1:06:25]
Philadelphia. Um, I think uh Elaine
[1:06:29]
Schaefer over at Skooker River Greenway,
[1:06:31]
she put put out an awesome article that
[1:06:35]
really promoted all the benefits that
[1:06:36]
this will bring to town. Um, and so to
[1:06:39]
try to um capture some of that a little
[1:06:42]
bit better and now that we do have a
[1:06:44]
full connection, they are asking for um
[1:06:48]
SRT street signs. Um there's an attached
[1:06:51]
plan that shows where they would go. Um
[1:06:54]
what they are is the vertical
[1:06:55]
rectangular signs that you see often see
[1:06:58]
in the size of like a state uh state
[1:07:00]
route marker sign. And these signs will
[1:07:03]
be installed on existing signposts
[1:07:05]
within the burrows right away. And
[1:07:06]
therefore um we are requesting this for
[1:07:10]
uh approval in the consent agenda on
[1:07:12]
Monday night as well.
[1:07:15]
>> Yeah, I've seen a lot more traffic along
[1:07:17]
um Industrial Highway with the the bikes
[1:07:19]
going like that. So, it's finally good
[1:07:21]
to see people out there and use it.
[1:07:23]
Works out well.
[1:07:24]
>> Yes. And we do have um a ribbon cutting
[1:07:27]
coming up. Does anybody remember the
[1:07:29]
date? If not, I'll I'll try to get that.
[1:07:32]
>> You don't.
[1:07:33]
>> The 29th. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah.
[1:07:35]
So, September 29th, there's going to be
[1:07:37]
a ribbon cutting with with the with the
[1:07:39]
municipalities and and the county. And
[1:07:41]
we'll get more info for council on that.
[1:07:44]
And of course, the public is invited to
[1:07:46]
attend as well.
[1:07:48]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:07:50]
Um, land development 24 Coolage Street,
[1:07:55]
Coolage Commons. Matt.
[1:07:57]
>> Yes. Thank you, Madam President. I
[1:07:59]
provided a a briefing in advance by
[1:08:01]
email. Uh, this is a project uh where
[1:08:04]
the planning commission has rem
[1:08:05]
recommended a preliminary land
[1:08:07]
development approval. Uh, it's for
[1:08:09]
property uh that is partially in the
[1:08:11]
burrow and primarily in Upper Potts
[1:08:13]
Grove. Uh the applicant, the developers
[1:08:16]
attorney, Rich Almquist, and his team is
[1:08:18]
here with us this evening to give you a
[1:08:19]
presentation on it.
[1:08:20]
>> Okay. And while I have you Oh, sorry.
[1:08:26]
>> No, I'm sorry.
[1:08:28]
>> Good evening, uh uh President Lindsay,
[1:08:31]
um councilors, uh and Mayor Helnick or
[1:08:37]
Henrik,
[1:08:38]
apologize for that. Um
[1:08:41]
it's been a long time since well several
[1:08:43]
months since I've been here to see you
[1:08:45]
folks and this time I'm here on a
[1:08:46]
different project. I'm here representing
[1:08:48]
uh the Koolage Commons project which is
[1:08:50]
located uh in the northwestern end of
[1:08:54]
the burrow uh along Wilson Street. Uh if
[1:08:57]
you're familiar with the intersection of
[1:08:58]
Wilson and Farmington um this is the
[1:09:01]
stretch of Wilson that is the soapbox
[1:09:04]
Derby uh hill. Um most of the property
[1:09:09]
uh as was mentioned is located within
[1:09:11]
Upper Potts Grove Township and in fact
[1:09:13]
that's where the units the town houses
[1:09:15]
that are proposed will be located. Uh
[1:09:18]
the primary access for the development
[1:09:20]
is uh coming off of um uh Wilson Street.
[1:09:24]
Uh and as you see the plan there I think
[1:09:26]
there's a cursor pointing at it right
[1:09:28]
now. That's the main entrance to the
[1:09:30]
development. Now some of you may have a
[1:09:32]
question. What happens on soapbox derby
[1:09:35]
day? Well, that entrance gets closed and
[1:09:38]
there is an alternate ingress egress
[1:09:40]
that is going to be coming off of the
[1:09:41]
north side of the property on uh
[1:09:44]
currently a paper street in Upper Pods
[1:09:47]
Grove Township known as Koolage Avenue.
[1:09:50]
Now, I refer to it as a paper street
[1:09:52]
because it's never formally been
[1:09:53]
developed or dedicated to Upper Potts
[1:09:56]
Grove Township. Uh but it has been paved
[1:09:58]
to provide access to some existing
[1:10:01]
residences and dwellings that are along
[1:10:03]
that stretch of the road. Now, if we
[1:10:05]
were to go back 30 or 40 years, the
[1:10:07]
question is who actually paved it? Could
[1:10:10]
be some partnership arrangement between
[1:10:13]
Upper Potsgrove and the residents, but
[1:10:15]
overall it's not in the greatest
[1:10:17]
condition. So, as you see on this plan,
[1:10:20]
uh Upper Pottsgrove has asked us to
[1:10:22]
improve that as a alternate egress uh
[1:10:27]
for the property. Um it would be
[1:10:30]
primarily an alternate egress. the
[1:10:32]
principal ingress egress is off of
[1:10:34]
Wilson Street and in fact that's most
[1:10:36]
likely the way people will enter the
[1:10:38]
development. Um occasionally I suspect
[1:10:41]
that you would because it would be open
[1:10:43]
full-time uh you would have some folks
[1:10:46]
who may be heading north on Farmington
[1:10:48]
Avenue would choose to leave that
[1:10:50]
direction. Uh but primarily the in
[1:10:52]
ingress and egress will be from Wilson
[1:10:54]
Street. Uh as uh your planning
[1:10:57]
commission has worked with us throughout
[1:10:58]
the development process here. Uh one of
[1:11:01]
the requests was well you know the
[1:11:03]
houses are going to be located in Upper
[1:11:04]
Pods Grove uh and the entrance is going
[1:11:06]
to be within the burrow. Uh the request
[1:11:09]
was made and we have agreed to provide
[1:11:11]
sidewalk on the north side of Wilson
[1:11:13]
Street running from the intersection
[1:11:15]
with Farmington Avenue all the way up to
[1:11:18]
the intersection with State Street. Uh
[1:11:20]
this will provide walkability on the
[1:11:22]
north side of Wilson Street. And I'm
[1:11:25]
sure would be an added benefit during
[1:11:26]
the soapbox derby for people to be able
[1:11:28]
to walk up and down that side of the
[1:11:30]
street as opposed to right now they just
[1:11:32]
can walk on the cemetery side of the
[1:11:34]
street. Um [clears throat] the review of
[1:11:37]
your professionals has recommended to
[1:11:39]
the planning commission to recommend
[1:11:42]
approval subject to satisfaction of the
[1:11:44]
conditions of their review letter. your
[1:11:46]
traffic engineer uh has indicated that
[1:11:49]
the ingress uh is is appropriate on
[1:11:52]
Wilson Street and won't cause an adverse
[1:11:54]
impact to the intersection at uh
[1:11:56]
Farmington and Wilson. Um uh and um we
[1:12:01]
have worked with the transportation
[1:12:03]
department for uh the school district uh
[1:12:06]
their preferences to uh provide access
[1:12:09]
and the bus stop on the Wilson Street
[1:12:11]
entrance. Um the fire chief has uh uh
[1:12:16]
recommended the approval because we have
[1:12:19]
provided the appropriate widths for
[1:12:21]
turning movements for the largest
[1:12:22]
apparatus. And while the homes would be
[1:12:24]
located in Upper Pods, uh upper Potts
[1:12:27]
Grove, uh Pottstown Burough's fire
[1:12:29]
department does provide a fair amount of
[1:12:32]
assistance to Upper Potts Grove. So
[1:12:34]
their largest equipment would be coming
[1:12:35]
from Pottstown. We've accommodated that.
[1:12:38]
Uh the total number of homes, town
[1:12:40]
houses is 64. Uh which is uh quite a bit
[1:12:44]
less than the maximum density that would
[1:12:46]
be permitted for the development. Um and
[1:12:49]
uh we have responded to your engineers
[1:12:51]
comments. Uh the most recent review
[1:12:54]
letter we indicated the planning
[1:12:55]
commission everything is a will comply.
[1:12:57]
And so we are asking for you to consider
[1:13:00]
at your council meeting uh grant of a
[1:13:02]
conditional preliminary approval so that
[1:13:04]
we can move on to the next step. submit
[1:13:07]
the applications to the conservation
[1:13:09]
district for review and approval to D
[1:13:11]
for review and approval uh and move it
[1:13:14]
to the next phase which would be the
[1:13:16]
final plan. Uh it'll be before you again
[1:13:19]
whether you want it or not. [laughter]
[1:13:22]
I have with me tonight I have our
[1:13:24]
engineer if you have any technical
[1:13:26]
questions um and also Tom Flatty
[1:13:29]
Flattley who is with Koolage Commons
[1:13:31]
LLC.
[1:13:32]
>> This was brought up in regional planning
[1:13:34]
in July if I remember correctly. I
[1:13:36]
believe that is correct.
[1:13:37]
>> We were discussing and I guess most of
[1:13:39]
the comments were just kind of concerned
[1:13:40]
about mean there'd be a lot of
[1:13:41]
development across the street of 100
[1:13:44]
rather.
[1:13:45]
>> Yeah. There one of the reasons for us uh looking at the level of improvements
[1:13:50]
of Koolage Avenue is because there is
[1:13:52]
another apartment development that is
[1:13:54]
proposed potentially north of us.
[1:13:56]
They're quite a bit behind us in the
[1:13:58]
land development process and that
[1:14:00]
apartment development uh would be
[1:14:03]
located off of commerce. they would need
[1:14:06]
an additional ingress egress to a public
[1:14:09]
road because commerce is is not it would
[1:14:12]
be that would be a oneway in and out
[1:14:13]
which is not necessarily suitable for
[1:14:16]
that size of a development.
[1:14:18]
>> So we have been working with them uh to
[1:14:20]
come up with you know a sharing of the
[1:14:23]
costs ultimately it would be offered for
[1:14:25]
dedication to uh upper pots township. Um
[1:14:29]
and uh last evening we did receive
[1:14:32]
conditional preliminary plan approval
[1:14:33]
from Upper Potts Grove Township and they
[1:14:36]
have granted our waivers. Many of the
[1:14:38]
waivers are associated with the
[1:14:40]
improvements on Kulage.
[1:14:43]
» Uh can I ask a couple questions? So you
[1:14:45]
you're talking about the sidewalk that
[1:14:47]
will be along Wilson. Will there be a
[1:14:49]
sidewalk uh that goes up Farmington?
[1:14:52]
>> Uh no there will not. In fact uh those
[1:14:55]
residences there there are residences.
[1:14:57]
>> Oh there's houses there. Okay. Yeah.
[1:14:59]
Okay. So, we wouldn't have any
[1:15:00]
improvements along Farmington. In fact,
[1:15:02]
I I think generally the both
[1:15:05]
municipalities
[1:15:07]
>> don't believe that that is an
[1:15:08]
appropriate walking sign.
[1:15:09]
>> Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
[1:15:10]
Yeah.
[1:15:11]
>> Yeah. Making safe there. Yeah, it's
[1:15:13]
there. There is I believe there's
[1:15:15]
sidewalk from um I can't remember if
[1:15:17]
that's
[1:15:18]
>> is that at There's this street here
[1:15:22]
>> to Farmington. There is some sidewalk.
[1:15:24]
[clears throat]
[1:15:24]
>> Okay.
[1:15:25]
>> But there's not very much on Farmington.
[1:15:27]
And then the sidewalk would go all would
[1:15:29]
they go all the way up the state or
[1:15:30]
would it go as and then just sort of end
[1:15:32]
at that corner or bear around or
[1:15:35]
>> at that corner? You have existing ADA
[1:15:37]
ramps at that intersection that kind of
[1:15:39]
go
[1:15:39]
>> I don't know where those ramps
[1:15:40]
necessarily go to. I always laugh about
[1:15:42]
those because they're they're like there
[1:15:44]
and they're overgrown with weeds. But
[1:15:46]
like um my my other question was you
[1:15:49]
know I don't know it's really a
[1:15:51]
question. I'm just thinking about that
[1:15:52]
traffic on Wilson. I mean, I I drive
[1:15:55]
that every single day, taking my kids to
[1:15:56]
the high school, and that can get backed
[1:15:58]
up up there. And I'm thinking now people
[1:16:00]
are going to be going out of this
[1:16:02]
development. That just seems there's it
[1:16:05]
we're not I guess there's no there's no
[1:16:08]
light, right? We're just talking about
[1:16:10]
just a a left and a right that people
[1:16:12]
would make out of there.
[1:16:13]
>> Correct. There's no signal at the
[1:16:15]
entrance to the development. And in
[1:16:17]
fact, it wouldn't be appropriate,
[1:16:19]
>> right? Because this other side is a
[1:16:20]
cemetery,
[1:16:20]
>> right? Well, well, no, because there's a
[1:16:22]
signalized intersection at Farmington
[1:16:25]
and Wilson and then another one at
[1:16:26]
State. Okay.
[1:16:28]
>> Now, we can talk about the issues at
[1:16:30]
State and Route 100, but that is a a
[1:16:33]
problem for Pendot to figure out. They
[1:16:35]
created that's their own mess.
[1:16:37]
>> I I just I guess I'm just thinking that
[1:16:39]
like like you pointed out, we're we're getting we're sharing the the the brunt of the traffic, but we're not
[1:16:46]
getting any of the benefit from the
[1:16:49]
taxes, you know. So, I'm just thinking
[1:16:51]
about the traffic that's going to flow
[1:16:53]
onto that property and I watch people
[1:16:55]
coming people shoot down Wilson like
[1:16:57]
they're which is laughable because when
[1:17:00]
they get down to Farmington there's that
[1:17:01]
little dip that people take out their
[1:17:03]
transmissions all the time. So, I I
[1:17:05]
always figure those people who are
[1:17:06]
shooting down Wilson don't know what the
[1:17:07]
heck is at the end, you know? So, right.
[1:17:09]
>> Um, but I'm just thinking of the traffic
[1:17:11]
that's coming in out of there and that
[1:17:13]
that's something that we're going to
[1:17:14]
have to deal with, but we don't get a
[1:17:16]
lot of benefits off of that. I mean, the
[1:17:18]
sidewalk is a great idea. I I do love
[1:17:19]
the idea of the sidewalk and I do love
[1:17:21]
the idea of that property has been
[1:17:23]
sitting there you know for a really long
[1:17:25]
time and it's you know it's kind of an
[1:17:27]
eyesore and it's cool to see it be used
[1:17:29]
in this capacity. I just just trying to
[1:17:31]
think of where the benefits are for us.
[1:17:32]
>> Yeah,
[1:17:33]
>> I did that too. In addition to the
[1:17:35]
sidewalk being provided on the north
[1:17:37]
side of Wilson Street, uh sewer is being
[1:17:40]
provided by Pennsylvania American
[1:17:42]
through the conveyance system uh by
[1:17:44]
connection on coolage, but that revenue
[1:17:46]
is going to be generated by Pottstown
[1:17:48]
Burough Authority because they are the
[1:17:50]
treatment facility for that sewage. This
[1:17:53]
is also within the water uh service area
[1:17:56]
for the Pottstown Burough Authority. So
[1:17:57]
there will be revenue coming to the
[1:17:59]
burrow from the water supply which is
[1:18:00]
coming from the burough authority. Um
[1:18:03]
the that is all being evaluated. We're
[1:18:05]
working with the folks at both uh with
[1:18:08]
the engineers for um authority and also
[1:18:11]
Pennsylvania American.
[1:18:12]
>> That's throughout the
[1:18:13]
>> That's exciting to hear. That's awesome.
[1:18:15]
Thank you.
[1:18:15]
>> Yeah.
[1:18:20]
» If there's no other questions, again,
[1:18:22]
two final things to say on it. This is a
[1:18:24]
little bit different than a typical
[1:18:27]
Pottstown project. Um, under the
[1:18:29]
municipality's planning code,
[1:18:30]
technically a developer needs
[1:18:32]
preliminary approval and then final
[1:18:34]
approval. And preliminary approval is to
[1:18:36]
the the basic concepts and layout of the
[1:18:38]
project and then they come back for
[1:18:40]
final approval uh for the the fine
[1:18:42]
details of the project. Um, most often
[1:18:46]
in recent history, developers are asking
[1:18:47]
for preliminary final at the same time.
[1:18:49]
This particular project, the developer
[1:18:51]
is only asking for preliminary. So, as
[1:18:53]
Rich said, at some point in the future,
[1:18:55]
the final plan will come back to you for
[1:18:57]
a second review and approval. Um, if
[1:19:00]
there are no other questions, at least
[1:19:02]
based on the recommendation of the
[1:19:03]
planning commission, I'll prepare a
[1:19:05]
resolution for your consideration and
[1:19:07]
potential action for Monday night, uh,
[1:19:09]
which would approve the project subject
[1:19:11]
to certain conditions.
[1:19:14]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:19:15]
>> Thank you for your time.
[1:19:16]
>> Thank you.
[1:19:19]
» Okay. Land development. This is 79 North
[1:19:22]
Handover Street and 148 Chestnut Street.
[1:19:26]
Landscape.
[1:19:27]
>> Yeah, correct. This is the property uh
[1:19:29]
the former site of the raised Invictus
[1:19:31]
Church. Uh the planning commission had
[1:19:33]
taken action on this land development
[1:19:35]
plan and had recommended uh preliminary
[1:19:38]
and final approval as well as certain
[1:19:40]
waiverss and that's why it was listed on
[1:19:42]
this evening's agenda for presentation.
[1:19:44]
Uh this afternoon, the developer asked
[1:19:46]
if it could please be deferred till
[1:19:48]
October. Uh there's some questions were
[1:19:50]
raised as far as the the building
[1:19:52]
material and the uh the design of the architecture and it's my
[1:19:56]
understanding they return they intend to
[1:19:58]
return to harb this month uh for further
[1:20:00]
presentation and discussion about the facade. Um accordingly you know
[1:20:06]
unless there's any objection you know
[1:20:08]
we'll we'll table this until next month.
[1:20:10]
>> Matt did we if I remember correctly did
[1:20:13]
we not authorize a letter of support for
[1:20:15]
his design?
[1:20:17]
>> Correct. Okay. So, we did an order for
[1:20:19]
support and that was based on brick.
[1:20:20]
Correct.
[1:20:21]
>> Correct.
[1:20:23]
>> But then why did he come to the planning
[1:20:25]
commissioner or to harb with brick
[1:20:29]
veneer?
[1:20:34]
» Yeah.
[1:20:34]
>> And we do we have the ability to
[1:20:37]
withdraw since he did not give what
[1:20:41]
we agreed upon. We were all excited
[1:20:44]
about it.
[1:20:47]
Heck, even I was. I thought it was
[1:20:49]
great.
[1:20:50]
>> Lisa, what' you think?
[1:20:52]
>> Yeah, for somebody that's been accused
[1:20:53]
of taking things personal when it comes
[1:20:56]
to said developer, um, I voted in favor
[1:20:59]
of sending support, and I was very
[1:21:02]
clear, as a matter of fact, for the last
[1:21:05]
six years
[1:21:06]
>> more
[1:21:08]
that this developer does not do what he
[1:21:12]
says. I hope you see it now. And I I'm
[1:21:17]
going to read something at the end, but
[1:21:19]
I question and I'd like explanations
[1:21:22]
from everybody up here that voted the
[1:21:25]
first time to support this project.
[1:21:30]
There has been nothing honest about it.
[1:21:32]
There's been nothing transparent about
[1:21:35]
it. We were told today that it was
[1:21:38]
tabled. One of how I found out about
[1:21:41]
that before I saw an email was a
[1:21:43]
community member.
[1:21:45]
That's not transparent to me. I would
[1:21:48]
like to know why our burrow manager and
[1:21:51]
paid continuously support this developer
[1:21:54]
when evidence has shown the opposite.
[1:21:59]
He has not done what he said. So I agree
[1:22:02]
with Andrew. If there is a way to
[1:22:04]
withdraw
[1:22:06]
support, that's what should be done. and
[1:22:08]
the community should be asking
[1:22:10]
questions. And why were we just notified
[1:22:13]
today when that decision was made behind
[1:22:16]
closed doors?
[1:22:21]
Sure. Well, I think the two questions in
[1:22:23]
terms of the letter of support that was
[1:22:24]
related to the zoning hearing board
[1:22:26]
proceedings uh and the variances that
[1:22:28]
were requested. So, there's nothing to
[1:22:30]
be withdrawn at that point. However,
[1:22:32]
that has no bearing on the two issues
[1:22:35]
that'll be in front of you will be a
[1:22:36]
certificate of appropriateness through
[1:22:38]
HARB uh as well as the the land
[1:22:40]
development plans for the project. You
[1:22:42]
look at those clean and fresh.
[1:22:44]
>> So, we'll have like I said, they have
[1:22:47]
time to do that because did everybody
[1:22:48]
get an email from Mr. Hilton today?
[1:22:51]
>> Spoke to him, too.
[1:22:52]
>> So, did I
[1:22:54]
>> Okay. Yes.
[1:22:55]
>> Mr. Hilton basically said he's Mr. Lingo
[1:22:58]
has submitted so many elevations
[1:22:59]
rendering his plans that it's difficult
[1:23:01]
to keep them all straight.
[1:23:04]
Come on. I mean
[1:23:08]
I I don't care for that kind of
[1:23:10]
disrespect of our burrow and I don't
[1:23:13]
know why we should accept it. So but
[1:23:17]
this is tabled until we'll see what the
[1:23:19]
next iteration of
[1:23:22]
I'm going to do this but maybe I'll do
[1:23:24]
that.
[1:23:28]
So what is it just the brick veneer over
[1:23:31]
full course veneer brick was the issue
[1:23:34]
and also some of the use of the existing
[1:23:36]
brick as well. I I don't see it would be
[1:23:39]
economically feasible to reuse the
[1:23:40]
entire all the brick for the church to I
[1:23:43]
think that was supposed to be used for a
[1:23:45]
um a memorial correct
[1:23:49]
for the reclaiming the brick.
[1:23:51]
>> Yeah. Again my I don't want to speak for
[1:23:53]
the developer. So, I mean, the developer
[1:23:55]
is still working through the final plans
[1:23:56]
which will be presented to you next
[1:23:59]
month. So, uh those details are
[1:24:02]
>> okay
[1:24:02]
>> under consideration.
[1:24:03]
>> Sure, we'll figure it out.
[1:24:05]
>> From what I understood,
[1:24:07]
it was supposed to be brick. The
[1:24:09]
memorial was something different to
[1:24:11]
repurpose the bricks from the church.
[1:24:15]
>> We did not agree to brick veneer.
[1:24:18]
Correct.
[1:24:18]
>> We agreed to brick.
[1:24:20]
>> Brick. Correct.
[1:24:22]
Mhm.
[1:24:23]
>> I kind of agree. I mean, if if if
[1:24:25]
>> correct
[1:24:26]
>> if we if we approve something
[1:24:30]
>> according to what he presented in front
[1:24:31]
of us
[1:24:32]
>> at the time
[1:24:33]
>> and he went before ARB or whatever and and
[1:24:39]
put put before them something different
[1:24:40]
than we approved.
[1:24:43]
>> That recommendation led her to squash.
[1:24:45]
For I'm concerned
[1:24:47]
is
[1:24:47]
>> that's why we advised him to go back to
[1:24:49]
hard before coming to council.
[1:24:53]
He didn't want to do that. But
[1:24:55]
>> when you say go back to Harb, what do
[1:24:57]
you what do you mean go back to Harb and
[1:24:58]
say I'm going to put the brick back?
[1:24:59]
Because that's all he would have to do
[1:25:01]
because that's we approved.
[1:25:03]
>> Yeah, they need to explain to Harb what
[1:25:05]
this change is that he's that he's
[1:25:07]
proposing.
[1:25:10]
>> Is that how I don't understand? It's
[1:25:12]
just like an ongoing thing. Comes to
[1:25:14]
[clears throat] council and he says,
[1:25:15]
"Hey, I'm going to do this." And then he
[1:25:17]
goes in front of the board that he's
[1:25:19]
supposed to go for and says, "Oh, no.
[1:25:20]
I'm not going to do this. I'm going to
[1:25:21]
do that because it's too expensive or I
[1:25:24]
don't feel like it or something
[1:25:25]
happened.
[1:25:28]
Is that how this works?
[1:25:30]
Yes. No. Is that I don't get it. Is this
[1:25:33]
I I don't understand. I don't understand
[1:25:36]
how someone can do that.
[1:25:39]
>> I I agree.
[1:25:40]
>> Okay.
[1:25:40]
>> I mean, those those are questions for
[1:25:42]
the developer when he comes next month
[1:25:43]
with his team to answer.
[1:25:45]
>> I'm sure we'll ask.
[1:25:48]
>> we're discussing this because we
[1:25:50]
received an email about it, not before
[1:25:52]
next month.
[1:25:54]
>> Council needs to have these discussions
[1:25:56]
and the public deserves to know
[1:25:58]
>> what is going on.
[1:25:59]
>> I know, but we're talking about
[1:26:00]
something that we can talk about in
[1:26:01]
October. There's there's no we there's
[1:26:03]
nothing we can move on right now. So,
[1:26:05]
let's just table this and we're table.
[1:26:07]
>> We'll see what he's going to do. But
[1:26:08]
again, we have to keep in mind who we're
[1:26:11]
dealing with.
[1:26:12]
>> Oh, no. No. I get it. I
[1:26:13]
>> What type of
[1:26:14]
>> I supported I didn't support the first
[1:26:16]
one.
[1:26:17]
dealing with. I'm with you. I I just
[1:26:19]
think that we're
[1:26:20]
>> got other stuff to talk about and right
[1:26:22]
now this this is being tabled to
[1:26:24]
October. So, let's table it to October.
[1:26:26]
>> We'll see what happens.
[1:26:27]
>> It's called discussing it before we have
[1:26:29]
to make a decision. It is important.
[1:26:33]
It shouldn't be dismissed as well. It's
[1:26:35]
table now, so we'll just talk about it
[1:26:37]
next month. No, we start talking about
[1:26:39]
it now and we let the public hear what
[1:26:41]
we're talking about.
[1:26:46]
with that. So,
[1:26:53]
okay. I have ZHB application 4 through 6
[1:26:58]
West 6 Street.
[1:27:00]
>> Yes. This is an application to the
[1:27:02]
zoning hearing board. It's my
[1:27:04]
understanding that it will be advertised
[1:27:06]
for Wednesday, September 23rd at 7 p.m.
[1:27:10]
for a hearing. Uh the applicants, the
[1:27:12]
owner of 46 West Sixth Street, uh the
[1:27:16]
owner of the property uh installed
[1:27:18]
fencing on the yard, including the front
[1:27:20]
yard. Uh the zoning ordinance only
[1:27:22]
permits, uh they did it without a
[1:27:25]
permit. Uh the maximum height of the
[1:27:27]
fence in a front yard can be 4 feet. Uh
[1:27:29]
this fence is 6 feet along the entire
[1:27:31]
property. Uh the property owner received
[1:27:34]
notice of violation. Uh the application
[1:27:37]
to the zoning hearing board only appeals
[1:27:39]
the zoning officer's determination.
[1:27:41]
They're not requesting a variance, which
[1:27:43]
is typical. A variance is where they
[1:27:44]
acknowledge that it's not permitted by
[1:27:46]
the ordinance and they're going to
[1:27:48]
present a hardship as to uh why they
[1:27:50]
should per be permitted to operate
[1:27:52]
outside of the zoning ordinance. An
[1:27:54]
appeal of the zoning officer is
[1:27:55]
essentially saying the zoning officer
[1:27:57]
got it wrong. Uh I strongly disagree. I
[1:28:00]
think the zoning this section of the
[1:28:01]
ordinance is quite clear and the zoning
[1:28:02]
officer got it correct. Uh we'll list it
[1:28:05]
for you for Monday night for discussion
[1:28:07]
as far as you you want to take a
[1:28:08]
position or not. Um because it is an
[1:28:10]
appeal solely of the zoning officer
[1:28:12]
determination. I would recommend that
[1:28:14]
you authorize my office to appear and
[1:28:16]
defend the zoning officer. However, this
[1:28:19]
one's rather straightforward. So you
[1:28:21]
[clears throat] can discuss that Monday
[1:28:23]
evening.
[1:28:23]
>> I have a question. Mhm.
[1:28:25]
>> Um it's not necessarily related to this
[1:28:28]
instance, but we seem to get a lot of
[1:28:32]
things that come through where things
[1:28:33]
are done without a permit. And maybe
[1:28:36]
there's not an answer for this right
[1:28:37]
now, but is there a way we can make what
[1:28:42]
needs permits more I know it's on the
[1:28:45]
website, but more easily accessible, a
[1:28:48]
list, something? because I find it hard
[1:28:50]
to believe that a lot of these people
[1:28:53]
just do it because they want to. I feel
[1:28:56]
like at least some do it because they
[1:29:00]
don't know they need a permit for
[1:29:01]
certain things. So, the question doesn't
[1:29:03]
need to be answered right now, but I'll ask it again as a followup. Um, is
[1:29:08]
there something we can do to make this
[1:29:12]
easier? I mean, I personally wouldn't
[1:29:14]
know unless I went to the website what
[1:29:16]
needs a permit or not,
[1:29:18]
>> right? [clears throat]
[1:29:19]
Yeah, that's something that we can
[1:29:21]
definitely do. Um, we can put on the
[1:29:22]
website. But one of the interesting
[1:29:24]
things as we're piloting this um the
[1:29:26]
polymorphic automated assistant, uh, it
[1:29:29]
will, you can ask it, do I need a permit
[1:29:31]
for this? It will review our zoning
[1:29:34]
permit application and our building
[1:29:35]
permit application and give you a pretty
[1:29:37]
good idea that yes, you're building a
[1:29:39]
fence, you will likely need a building
[1:29:41]
permit or, you know, so or so on and so
[1:29:44]
forth. So, um, we have a lot of data
[1:29:47]
that we're collecting from that about
[1:29:49]
the common questions that people are
[1:29:51]
asking that could help build that web
[1:29:52]
page as well.
[1:29:54]
>> Where is that?
[1:29:55]
>> So, that's if you call the um 60 uh 6511
[1:30:01]
line, Alexexas line, you can go through
[1:30:05]
the automated assistant.
[1:30:07]
Do you think there would be anything um
[1:30:10]
put on the website as far as AI where
[1:30:13]
somebody could type in do I need a
[1:30:15]
permit for such and
[1:30:16]
>> that is the plan for the next step of
[1:30:18]
the roll out. So there's going to be a
[1:30:19]
chatbot that's going to be placed on the
[1:30:21]
website. Um and we're getting closer to
[1:30:24]
that as well. And essentially it'll work
[1:30:26]
the same way that it works when people
[1:30:28]
call in except it'll be a typed answer.
[1:30:30]
>> Thank you.
[1:30:31]
>> Yeah.
[1:30:34]
» Okay. Thank you. We will list that under
[1:30:36]
new business for Monday evening.
[1:30:38]
>> Okay. Um, street closure request, Hearts
[1:30:42]
of Humanity Harvest Festival, October
[1:30:45]
11, 2026.
[1:30:48]
>> Uh, yeah. Would you like to say a few
[1:30:50]
words?
[1:30:50]
>> Oh, there you go. [laughter]
[1:30:52]
>> Come on up.
[1:30:53]
>> Okay. Yes. Good evening, Madame
[1:30:55]
President, esteemed counselors, and uh
[1:30:59]
madame mayor. Um I am very excited about
[1:31:02]
our third annual harvest festival that
[1:31:05]
you are considering for us um in
[1:31:08]
October. We're adding [clears throat] to
[1:31:09]
the October madness, but it's our third
[1:31:12]
year, so I'm hoping that you will
[1:31:14]
definitely approve it. Do you have any
[1:31:16]
questions about it? We're going to have
[1:31:17]
a ball and we want to roll out the red
[1:31:21]
carpet for our counselors also, but
[1:31:23]
mostly for our youth because we want our
[1:31:26]
youth to be engaged, more engaged, more
[1:31:28]
knowledgeable, educated about what goes
[1:31:31]
on in Pottstown,
[1:31:33]
okay? And let them know that they have a
[1:31:36]
voice and hear you all and see you all,
[1:31:39]
okay? Because we have elections coming
[1:31:40]
up and we want them to know how
[1:31:42]
important these elections are on a local
[1:31:45]
level.
[1:31:46]
and and beyond. Okay. So, I just wanted
[1:31:50]
to get up here and say, you know, it's
[1:31:52]
for our children and it's for our future generations.
[1:31:57]
>> So, do you have any questions about our
[1:31:59]
harvest festival?
[1:32:00]
>> I do. Um, how are you advertising the
[1:32:05]
harvest festival?
[1:32:06]
>> So, I'm really chomping at the bit about
[1:32:09]
advertising. I'm trying not to advertise
[1:32:12]
because it hasn't been approved yet, but
[1:32:14]
we do have um we did a canvas of the
[1:32:17]
neighborhood and we do have like 75
[1:32:19]
signatures. Um some of them not written
[1:32:22]
on the paper, but we have lots of
[1:32:25]
community members um engagement,
[1:32:28]
interest. Um they're creating flyers,
[1:32:32]
ideas, different things like that. Um,
[1:32:36]
you know, just to have this this other
[1:32:38]
uh engagement with the council is really
[1:32:42]
exciting too because the kids get
[1:32:44]
involved and they get to have like they get to have their own little I
[1:32:49]
don't know [clears throat] uh uh speaker
[1:32:51]
box or you know reporter box,
[1:32:54]
>> you know,
[1:32:54]
>> I just want to make sure people know
[1:32:56]
about it and what you're offering there.
[1:33:00]
>> Yeah. So once we do get approval, if we
[1:33:03]
do get approval, um we're planning on um
[1:33:08]
just taking the flyers around first of
[1:33:09]
all to the people who signed up for it.
[1:33:11]
Um secondly on Facebook, on Instagram,
[1:33:15]
and um uh we don't have a LinkedIn page,
[1:33:19]
but um just basically word of mouth to
[1:33:21]
different organizations and asking our
[1:33:24]
community members to just share with
[1:33:25]
their families. And one other u way that
[1:33:28]
we're going to advertise this time is to
[1:33:30]
actually bring the arts
[1:33:33]
>> into it so that um you know we can get
[1:33:36]
our theater arts, our dance um uh
[1:33:39]
department, our dance theater um our
[1:33:42]
vocalists, our instrumentalists involved
[1:33:45]
and that always is wonderful in
[1:33:47]
spreading the word. Also,
[1:33:49]
>> do you think um some of them might be
[1:33:51]
willing to like when you have the flyers
[1:33:53]
put them in the windows maybe? Well, uh
[1:33:55]
I was told that there was some kind of
[1:33:57]
ordinance that um did not allow uh you
[1:34:02]
know advertisements to go in the windows
[1:34:04]
of the door um of the businesses. So
[1:34:07]
basically we have um in the past just
[1:34:10]
put them on the tables uh of certain
[1:34:14]
businesses and went to the churches you
[1:34:16]
know and asked the pastors to you know
[1:34:19]
do the announcements at church. So,
[1:34:22]
could I ask for some clarification on
[1:34:24]
that? Because I see advertisements for
[1:34:27]
maybe I should call them advertisements,
[1:34:29]
but flyers in businesses windows for all
[1:34:32]
types of events.
[1:34:35]
>> So, is there
[1:34:36]
>> I I don't have an answer for you
[1:34:38]
tonight. I'll back to you.
[1:34:40]
>> Yeah. And let's talk about that because
[1:34:41]
I I'd like an answer to that question.
[1:34:44]
>> Okay. Sure. I just didn't I just wanted
[1:34:46]
to comply.
[1:34:47]
>> Yeah. And I want to make sure that
[1:34:49]
you're not doing something you don't
[1:34:50]
need to do.
[1:34:51]
>> Mhm. Yeah. Um, this will be on Charlotte
[1:34:54]
Street. So, um, we want to block off the
[1:34:57]
block so that the children can just have
[1:34:59]
a good time riding their bikes, doing
[1:35:02]
kites and and frisbees and different
[1:35:04]
things like that, immersing them in
[1:35:06]
nature and allowing them to just explore
[1:35:09]
agriculture and and the birds and the
[1:35:11]
bees and trees. [laughter]
[1:35:13]
>> So, thank you. Thank you so much.
[1:35:15]
>> Yes. Thank you.
[1:35:18]
» [applause]
[1:35:23]
» Okay, we have um street closure request
[1:35:26]
YWCA
[1:35:28]
Tri County area annual um community
[1:35:32]
block event October 24th, 2026. Justin,
[1:35:36]
>> yes. So, this will be a closure of King
[1:35:39]
Street between Charlotte and North Evans
[1:35:42]
from 900 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
[1:35:46]
>> Okay.
[1:35:48]
And while I have you, you want to do the
[1:35:50]
street closer for um Winraftoft School
[1:35:54]
back to school?
[1:35:55]
>> Thank you. This will be on September
[1:35:57]
18th on Rosedale Drive between Wilson
[1:36:00]
and Malbury from 4:30 p.m. to 8:30 p.m.
[1:36:03]
>> Okay. And while I still have you,
[1:36:05]
alcohol request for Skooko River
[1:36:08]
Greenways Riverfront Park.
[1:36:10]
>> Yes. So the Skook River Greenways is
[1:36:12]
requesting permission to allow the
[1:36:14]
inclusion of alcohol at their new event,
[1:36:17]
the Skookill Shuffle 5K and 10 mileer.
[1:36:20]
Proceeds will be dedicated to the Skook
[1:36:22]
River stewardship fund that will go
[1:36:24]
towards ongoing maintenance of the
[1:36:25]
trail. Consumption area will be limited
[1:36:28]
to the natural amphitheater area and the
[1:36:29]
tented area at the top of the
[1:36:30]
amphitheater and monitors will be uh
[1:36:33]
placed in the area to ensure that
[1:36:35]
alcoholic beverages do not um travel
[1:36:37]
beyond the confines of the designated
[1:36:39]
areas. and um Scox Brewery will be there
[1:36:42]
to um ensure the due diligence and uh
[1:36:46]
check for proper IDs.
[1:36:48]
>> Okay. Since you're talking about their
[1:36:50]
alcohol, you might as well go down to
[1:36:52]
number 20 for alcohol requests. P A R
[1:36:55]
RC.
[1:36:56]
>> Yes. So, Park would like to start
[1:36:58]
another new tradition. Um, the Park
[1:37:00]
Foundation would like to request
[1:37:02]
permission to allow the consumption of
[1:37:04]
alcoholic beverages at the Putt for
[1:37:06]
Parks miniature golf tournament from
[1:37:08]
9:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. with a rain date
[1:37:11]
of October 4th, 2026. So, beverages will
[1:37:15]
be served by ramp certified servers and
[1:37:18]
limited to mimosas consisting of
[1:37:20]
champagne and orange juice. Um, and
[1:37:23]
these will be served to registered
[1:37:24]
tournament participants ages 21 years
[1:37:26]
and old older. The consumption area will
[1:37:29]
be limited to the Manit County green um
[1:37:32]
patio.
[1:37:34]
And um just as a plug, the Puttford
[1:37:37]
Parks Tournament is a family-friendly
[1:37:38]
fundraising event, and we look forward
[1:37:40]
to working uh closely with Manatoni
[1:37:42]
Green to ensure a safe and successful
[1:37:45]
event promoting outdoor recreation
[1:37:46]
entertainment while supporting the park
[1:37:48]
foundation.
[1:37:49]
>> Okay. Thank you. Okay. Upcoming board
[1:37:52]
vacancies. um construction coal board of
[1:37:57]
appeals one three-year term to expire
[1:38:00]
August 8th 20 26 Anthony Campbell
[1:38:06]
seeking reappoint
[1:38:08]
environmental advisory council two
[1:38:12]
three-year terms to expire August 10th
[1:38:15]
2026
[1:38:17]
we have Jim Durr seeking reappointment
[1:38:19]
and Miles Bee seeking reappointment
[1:38:23]
Next is comments from citizens present.
[1:38:27]
>> All right. So, um before we get started
[1:38:29]
uh with with this, I want to do
[1:38:31]
something a little bit different and
[1:38:32]
quickly provide an update on actions
[1:38:33]
taken after last month's public
[1:38:35]
comments. So, the first one that we had
[1:38:38]
um that we were able to take action on
[1:38:39]
was uh Rich Richkmer, 1050 South Street.
[1:38:43]
Uh there was a concern with the street
[1:38:44]
tree uh on a neighboring property
[1:38:47]
regarding the safety of the tree as
[1:38:49]
there was some splitting observed. So,
[1:38:52]
um staff recommended that the property
[1:38:54]
owner have an arborist look at the tree.
[1:38:56]
Um and as as an update to, um some
[1:38:59]
information we previously sent to
[1:39:00]
council, the property owner provided
[1:39:03]
public works with three estimates from
[1:39:04]
arborists finding that the tree does not
[1:39:06]
need to be cut down, but it can be
[1:39:08]
trimmed and that and the trunk can be um
[1:39:11]
banded to prevent the uh split from
[1:39:13]
splitting any further. So, public works
[1:39:15]
gave the property owner a permit to trim
[1:39:17]
the tree and have it banded. Um, as a
[1:39:19]
reminder per burough ordinance, street
[1:39:21]
trees are the responsibility of the
[1:39:22]
property owner. The bureau will become
[1:39:24]
involved when there is a legitimate
[1:39:26]
public safety concern. In this case,
[1:39:29]
staff continued working um with the
[1:39:31]
parties to reach a reason reasonable
[1:39:33]
solution and costefficient solution
[1:39:35]
based on the findings of multiple uh
[1:39:38]
arborists. Next was Tracy Kitchen, 449
[1:39:42]
Chestnut Street, regarding alley
[1:39:43]
conditions, trash, and an abandoned
[1:39:44]
trailer. Um, so public works has done
[1:39:47]
one round of patching of the potholes in
[1:39:49]
the alley and is preparing to do a
[1:39:51]
second round soon that will provide for
[1:39:53]
a smoother uh surface. Just as a note,
[1:39:56]
this is an unordained private alley,
[1:39:58]
meaning maintenance responsibility rests
[1:40:00]
with the adjoining property owners
[1:40:01]
rather than the burrow. Never
[1:40:03]
nevertheless, when staff identifies a
[1:40:05]
relatively straightforward and lowcost
[1:40:06]
opportunity to improve conditions, we'll
[1:40:08]
attempt to assist even though the
[1:40:10]
burough is not no obligation to maintain
[1:40:12]
the alley. Um the PD determined that a
[1:40:15]
scrap trailer was on private property
[1:40:17]
was at 115 North Washington Street. As a
[1:40:19]
note, uh police can only require removal
[1:40:22]
of the trailer if it's blocking passage
[1:40:24]
of the alley blocking private property
[1:40:27]
access is abandoned without proper
[1:40:28]
paperwork. Um since it was on private
[1:40:31]
property, LNI has issued a notice of
[1:40:32]
violation regarding the trailer and is
[1:40:35]
um following up accordingly on that one.
[1:40:38]
uh a clean and lean issue was issued for
[1:40:40]
the trash and these conditions seem to
[1:40:43]
have improved somewhat, but we're still
[1:40:45]
pursuing removal of additional bulk
[1:40:46]
items that remain. And it should be
[1:40:48]
noted that LNI has a history of recent
[1:40:50]
enforcement activity associated with one
[1:40:53]
with the conditions at 115 North
[1:40:55]
Washington Street and we'll continue to
[1:40:57]
follow up regularly. So, um, in both
[1:41:00]
these cases, staff had already been
[1:41:02]
actively addressing the concerns, uh,
[1:41:04]
before they were raised at at the
[1:41:05]
council meeting, and then we took
[1:41:07]
additional steps afterward to pursue
[1:41:09]
the, uh, resolution. So, we'll continue
[1:41:11]
following up on the remaining
[1:41:13]
enforcement items and then regularly
[1:41:15]
check back on these areas as warrant.
[1:41:18]
All right. Um, so, first up, we have,
[1:41:21]
uh, Kaylee uh, Silver
[1:41:24]
with Montgomery County.
[1:41:29]
Hello. Hello. Can you hear me? Okay.
[1:41:31]
>> Yes.
[1:41:32]
>> Great. Thank you so so much. Hi. Uh good
[1:41:35]
evening. Thank you very much for letting
[1:41:36]
me participate in public comment. I'm
[1:41:38]
Kaylee Silver. As Justin mentioned, I
[1:41:40]
oversee Montgomery Countyy's Office of
[1:41:42]
Housing and Community Development and uh
[1:41:44]
honestly just offering an impromptu and
[1:41:46]
probably overdue on my part uh to come
[1:41:50]
and talk to Burough Council, Burough
[1:41:52]
staff, and thank you all as well as the
[1:41:54]
residents of Pottstown and kind of
[1:41:55]
provide a a quick update. uh regarding
[1:41:57]
our partnership with you and the program
[1:42:00]
at the former days in with our partners
[1:42:02]
you and Opportunity House. Um you know
[1:42:05]
addressing homelessness is really
[1:42:07]
challenging work and we appreciate
[1:42:09]
Pottstown's willingness to be a part of
[1:42:11]
the solution. Um I also want to
[1:42:13]
acknowledge very clearly that you know
[1:42:16]
no single program is going to
[1:42:19]
immediately or quickly solve you know
[1:42:22]
homelessness in in any community or past
[1:42:24]
town, right? the challenges around this
[1:42:25]
are complex. Um, but I do want to
[1:42:28]
highlight that while this program isn't
[1:42:30]
the entire answer, I'm hopefully here to
[1:42:32]
offer kind of that some some outcomes
[1:42:35]
and some data and hope that it has in my
[1:42:37]
belief made a really meaningful
[1:42:39]
difference. So, uh, since the county
[1:42:41]
partnered with the burrow and
[1:42:43]
opportunity house in, I believe around
[1:42:45]
April 2025, uh, the program has served
[1:42:48]
308, uh, Pottstownians and and people in
[1:42:51]
Pottstown experiencing homelessness. um
[1:42:54]
a little bit more about who the program
[1:42:55]
is serving. Um well about half of those
[1:42:59]
adults served entered uh this
[1:43:02]
opportunity house program with three or
[1:43:04]
more significant health conditions at at
[1:43:07]
the same time. Right? So some really
[1:43:08]
complex health stuff going on. Um about
[1:43:12]
onethird were 55 or older uh in the
[1:43:15]
program. Um and about a quarter of
[1:43:17]
people who've been in the program have
[1:43:19]
some sort of history or active thing
[1:43:20]
around domestic violence. Right? So just
[1:43:23]
offering that to highlight that the
[1:43:24]
people um going through this program are
[1:43:27]
not it's you know it's not simple.
[1:43:28]
There's there's a lot of coordinated
[1:43:30]
support needed um and a lot of you know
[1:43:32]
case management support that they're
[1:43:34]
receiving. Um and and that's what I
[1:43:37]
think helps make this program special,
[1:43:39]
right? Uh it's not just a place to stay.
[1:43:41]
Uh Opportunity House and partners have
[1:43:43]
really done a great job wrapping around
[1:43:45]
a ton of services and support for people
[1:43:48]
with some complex needs. Uh residents uh
[1:43:51]
at the program have been connected to
[1:43:53]
employment services, income supports,
[1:43:55]
some health care supports, uh treatment
[1:43:57]
supports, and um even veterinary
[1:43:59]
services for those who have pets. Um
[1:44:01]
we've had above national standards
[1:44:04]
around participants like increasing or
[1:44:06]
gaining income while in the program and
[1:44:09]
about 20% of people have uh at this
[1:44:11]
time. Um so while the program has served
[1:44:16]
308 people so far uh about 200 people
[1:44:20]
have exited the program about uh um and
[1:44:23]
then uh really about uh threearters of
[1:44:26]
them have left towards uh really
[1:44:28]
positive destinations house permanent
[1:44:31]
housing treatment programs nursing home
[1:44:34]
reunification with family and support
[1:44:36]
services. So we're seeing some really
[1:44:38]
positive exit outcomes too. Um but also
[1:44:40]
acknowledging again still always work to
[1:44:42]
do. Um one of the areas where we
[1:44:45]
continue to face challenges uh across
[1:44:47]
the county as well as with this program
[1:44:49]
is the housing availability. Um so the
[1:44:52]
average stay in the program is a is a
[1:44:54]
little longer than we'd like which I
[1:44:56]
think reflects that challenge. So the
[1:44:57]
average stay in the program is nearly
[1:44:59]
six months. Uh, and that's not because
[1:45:01]
people aren't ready to move forward, but
[1:45:02]
that's really because like affordable
[1:45:04]
housing or treatment options or
[1:45:06]
placement after this program remain
[1:45:09]
limited throughout the region and
[1:45:10]
throughout Montgomery County. Uh, that's
[1:45:12]
not a specific challenge just to this
[1:45:14]
program, but one we're seeing across the
[1:45:16]
whole county. Um, but, you know, with
[1:45:18]
these challenges, we are seeing uh
[1:45:20]
progress. Uh I joined Opportunity House
[1:45:22]
and their amazing staff and outreach
[1:45:24]
workers in Pottstown last month um and
[1:45:27]
walked around outside with uh to kind of
[1:45:30]
talk with some people who continue to
[1:45:32]
experience some unsheltered
[1:45:33]
homelessness. Uh we do see a huge
[1:45:35]
reduction in the number of people who
[1:45:37]
are uh unsheltered. Uh when I went out
[1:45:40]
last month with them, we countered about
[1:45:42]
like 20 or 30 people who remain
[1:45:44]
unsheltered. Uh, but what stood out to
[1:45:46]
me was that the staff I was with knew
[1:45:48]
every single one of them, actively
[1:45:50]
engaging with them, connecting with them
[1:45:52]
to services, and working to bring them
[1:45:54]
back into shelter and housing and
[1:45:56]
treatment opportunities when space and circumstance allow. So again,
[1:46:02]
I just want to thank you all very very
[1:46:04]
much for allowing me the time to to talk
[1:46:06]
a little bit about the program. I'd be
[1:46:08]
happy to take any questions or any data
[1:46:09]
back that you'd like to hear more. Um
[1:46:12]
it's helping hundreds of people,
[1:46:14]
reducing the unsheltered homelessness,
[1:46:16]
uh really creating some great pathways
[1:46:18]
to stability and uh I do believe that
[1:46:21]
again while no one thing can solve all
[1:46:23]
the problems, I am really so grateful
[1:46:26]
for the support of of Pottstown. Uh so
[1:46:29]
thank you very much for this work and uh
[1:46:32]
and I believe some some graduates of the
[1:46:33]
program might be uh Pottstown residents
[1:46:35]
and and uh talking a little bit more
[1:46:38]
today too. So thank you very very much
[1:46:39]
for your time.
[1:46:40]
>> Great. And just as a note, um we do have
[1:46:42]
a policy that we don't get back um to
[1:46:45]
commenters at the meeting, but um
[1:46:47]
certainly if council has any questions,
[1:46:50]
um send them along to me. I'd be happy
[1:46:51]
to get those out to Kaylee. All right.
[1:46:54]
Next up, we have Deb Spence, please.
[1:47:00]
» Good evening, everyone. Can you hear me?
[1:47:02]
>> Yeah.
[1:47:02]
>> Yes.
[1:47:04]
>> Okay, great. Uh, Madame President, I I
[1:47:07]
know this job is not easy and um I know
[1:47:10]
most of what you deal with never makes
[1:47:12]
it into a headline or Facebook post and
[1:47:16]
I know the criticism shows up a lot
[1:47:18]
faster than the thank yous, but I
[1:47:20]
appreciate the work you're putting in,
[1:47:22]
the work you're doing, and I want you to
[1:47:24]
stay encouraged and I want you to keep
[1:47:26]
going. And um, but next is a quick
[1:47:30]
update on the Pottstown app. This is a
[1:47:33]
free civic resource that level flat
[1:47:35]
association runs for Ptown residents.
[1:47:38]
The site is live and and residents are
[1:47:41]
using it every week to find local
[1:47:42]
events, jobs, burrows, services, and who
[1:47:45]
represents them. And Lisa Bonnie, you
[1:47:48]
can actually go on there pot.app and you
[1:47:51]
can ask Pottstown is a tab right there
[1:47:53]
on lefth hand side. What do you need to
[1:47:56]
get a permit for? Do you need to get a
[1:47:57]
permit for electrical work, for a fence?
[1:48:00]
And it will tell you yes. and it'll
[1:48:02]
point you to the website to get that
[1:48:04]
permit started. So, you know, private
[1:48:07]
sector is always more advanced than
[1:48:09]
government, but we're we're here to
[1:48:11]
support government in any way we can. It
[1:48:14]
has the one calendar and every event
[1:48:17]
that's happening in town. You don't have
[1:48:19]
to hunt for it. You can go right there
[1:48:21]
on the one calendar. And I'm asking
[1:48:24]
everyone in this room or anyone
[1:48:26]
watching, if you run an event, a
[1:48:28]
meeting, a fundraiser, youth program, a
[1:48:31]
harvest festival, cleanup, anything like
[1:48:33]
that, submit it to the one calendar.app,
[1:48:36]
it takes like two minutes to do it. And
[1:48:39]
um you know, so all of the events you
[1:48:41]
can you can send everyone to that app
[1:48:44]
for, you know, quick answer. Um last
[1:48:47]
thing I want to talk about, um you
[1:48:49]
didn't give it in your update, Justin.
[1:48:51]
that circle back to the chicken or
[1:48:53]
ordinance and and right now chickens are
[1:48:56]
not allowed in the burrow and and that
[1:48:59]
is the rule on paper but in practice
[1:49:02]
they are running around town um and and
[1:49:05]
everybody knows it. You see them all
[1:49:07]
over the place. So I would like to know
[1:49:10]
if there can be an ordinance in place.
[1:49:12]
Um, Nortown just updated theirs and they
[1:49:16]
set a limit on hens, no roosters,
[1:49:18]
setbacks from the property line,
[1:49:21]
standards for the for the coupe and and
[1:49:24]
for keeping it clean and and and I'm
[1:49:26]
interested in it because I, you know, we
[1:49:29]
are at war. We are country at war.
[1:49:32]
Grocery stores could be shut down for a
[1:49:33]
week or month. Um, we could we could
[1:49:35]
lose power. You never know what's going
[1:49:37]
to happen. And if we had, you know, some
[1:49:40]
fresh eggs, some potential, you know,
[1:49:43]
protein at some point, I I would
[1:49:45]
appreciate it if it were legal to have
[1:49:47]
those things um in the barrel so that
[1:49:50]
not only we can, you know, have some
[1:49:53]
food security, but also at the same
[1:49:55]
time, you know, live a healthier and
[1:49:57]
more sustainable life. Um so um anyway I
[1:50:02]
think I am done with my comment and uh I do like um that Manasha is making
[1:50:09]
those dots with the uh with the uh land
[1:50:13]
bank. So I I I appreciate that. Um um
[1:50:15]
thank you all. Have a good night.
[1:50:18]
>> Thank you Deb. I appreciate you. Thank
[1:50:21]
you.
[1:50:21]
>> Thank you. Um Shauna, did you want to
[1:50:24]
speak again? [clears throat]
[1:50:29]
Hello. Yes. Um on behalf of Hearts of
[1:50:31]
Humanity, we go to the Ricket Center to
[1:50:35]
um manage the children's garden in the
[1:50:37]
back. Um I know that there are hundreds
[1:50:39]
of thousands of dollars earmarked for
[1:50:41]
this and for that, but the children's
[1:50:44]
garden is in the back
[1:50:46]
>> and I take the alleyway to get to the
[1:50:49]
children's garden. And one time my car
[1:50:52]
ended up in a hole in the alleyway in
[1:50:54]
the back. And these alleyways are just I
[1:50:59]
don't know how they could be uh uh uh
[1:51:02]
the responsibility of the homeowners or whatnot, but these alleyways are
[1:51:08]
deplorable. They're also the gutters.
[1:51:11]
with all the rain that we've
[1:51:13]
had, we should be looking at that. All
[1:51:15]
the trash ends up in the gutters and our
[1:51:18]
place looks horrendous, you know, with
[1:51:22]
people who are coming in and going to
[1:51:24]
the low show and, you know, doing
[1:51:26]
October Madness. We want a clean,
[1:51:30]
safe, even the alleyways. You know, I
[1:51:33]
remember when my daughter was going to
[1:51:34]
school, I would tell her time and time
[1:51:36]
again, don't take the alleyways. That
[1:51:39]
was a very long time ago. Now 2026, my
[1:51:43]
car ends up in a hole in the back of the
[1:51:45]
Ricket Center. My question now is of
[1:51:49]
those hundreds of thousands of dollars,
[1:51:52]
is any of it earmarked for the alleyway
[1:51:55]
behind the Ricket Center because there
[1:51:57]
is an amazing amount of children that
[1:52:00]
go, you know, back and forth in that
[1:52:02]
alleyway. And I'd like to see some
[1:52:04]
lights. I'd like to know that some of
[1:52:07]
these dollars are being earmarked for
[1:52:10]
our alleyways
[1:52:13]
with the impact transportation u money
[1:52:16]
that's coming in through that initiative
[1:52:18]
live or play all this. Are our alleyways
[1:52:23]
and our trash being addressed? Even the
[1:52:26]
trash trucks don't work [music] anymore
[1:52:28]
the way they're supposed to. And these
[1:52:30]
poor guys are lifting up these huge
[1:52:32]
heavy totes that we were made to get so
[1:52:36]
that they can fit on the back of these
[1:52:38]
trash trucks and electronically lift up
[1:52:41]
these huge heavy the guys are lifting up
[1:52:45]
these trash cans manually by hand. I
[1:52:48]
just feel sorry for them. I try not to
[1:52:49]
put as I mean I try not to generate as
[1:52:52]
much trash on account of it
[1:52:55]
>> because I mean it's just so sad the
[1:52:57]
trash trucks don't even work anymore. So
[1:53:00]
on behalf of Hearts of Humanity, on
[1:53:02]
behalf of myself as a, you know, a
[1:53:05]
property owner, taxpayer,
[1:53:08]
could we earmark some of these funds for
[1:53:10]
alleyways, trash,
[1:53:13]
>> gutters?
[1:53:15]
Thank you.
[1:53:16]
>> Thank you. Next is Laura Johnson.
[1:53:20]
[snorts]
[1:53:30]
Hello, Laura Johnson. Um, normally I get
[1:53:33]
up here and I say I'm not speaking on
[1:53:35]
behalf of the school district. I'm just
[1:53:37]
a private citizen. Tonight I'm going to
[1:53:38]
start with some schoolboard related
[1:53:41]
updates.
[1:53:42]
>> Okay. Um, the first thing I wanted to
[1:53:44]
let everybody know of, anybody in the
[1:53:46]
audience, is that the school district
[1:53:48]
recently um, reenacted a property tax
[1:53:52]
and rent rebate tax credit on your
[1:53:56]
property taxes. It is the same one that
[1:53:58]
is done at the state level. Um where it
[1:54:00]
is income qualifying and one other qual
[1:54:04]
qualification that goes along with it to
[1:54:06]
be either 65 years of age or older, be a
[1:54:10]
widow or widowerower age 50 years 50
[1:54:13]
years of age or older or be permanently
[1:54:16]
disabled and 18 years of age and older.
[1:54:19]
And it goes for renters and homeowners.
[1:54:21]
So, if you qualify for the state
[1:54:24]
property tax and rent rebate, you also
[1:54:26]
qualify for the school district one. The
[1:54:29]
school district one is 75% of the state
[1:54:31]
one. So, if you get $1,000 back from the
[1:54:33]
state, you'd get 750 back from the
[1:54:36]
school district. So, this was something
[1:54:39]
that we did in the last budget. It is an
[1:54:42]
effort to try to
[1:54:44]
particularly for our residents,
[1:54:46]
homeowners or renters again who are on a
[1:54:50]
fixed limited income to help alleviate
[1:54:53]
some of the pressure. So that can be um
[1:54:56]
if you're looking for that application,
[1:54:58]
um you apply for the school district one
[1:55:00]
after you've already gotten the state
[1:55:02]
one because we just use their you know
[1:55:04]
if you're okay with the state, you're
[1:55:06]
okay with us. Um, if you Google school
[1:55:09]
Pottstown School District rebate, it is
[1:55:11]
the first thing that'll come up. You can
[1:55:13]
also you'll find it on our website. Um,
[1:55:15]
so I just wanted everybody to know about
[1:55:17]
that because that is a not insignificant
[1:55:19]
amount of money. Um, it's up to $1,000
[1:55:22]
from the state and up to 750 from the
[1:55:25]
school district. So, it can also be
[1:55:27]
lower than that.
[1:55:29]
Um, the other thing I wanted to flag on
[1:55:32]
the school district side is that we're
[1:55:34]
in the fall. It is um sports season. It
[1:55:37]
is band season. And you can find um
[1:55:40]
school sports schedules on the school
[1:55:43]
district website. If you go to
[1:55:44]
potstownschools.org and go to the
[1:55:46]
activities tab, the Trojan sports
[1:55:49]
schedule is right there. And while
[1:55:51]
certainly everybody should go to FET
[1:55:53]
this Friday night, if you're not for
[1:55:55]
some reason, um and you want to do
[1:55:57]
something else, there is a football game
[1:55:59]
as Madame Mayor mentioned. Um, it is
[1:56:02]
also middle school band music night
[1:56:04]
along with is the marching band's first
[1:56:06]
show. So anyway, lots of good stuff
[1:56:08]
happening there. So now to take off the
[1:56:10]
schoolboard hat and just put on the
[1:56:11]
private citizen hat. I just also want to
[1:56:14]
say that I love love love this idea of
[1:56:16]
the arts district. Um, I think something
[1:56:18]
like this would be another really good
[1:56:21]
focal point um for our town to be known
[1:56:25]
for a thing. It reminds me back to when
[1:56:27]
we had the urban land institute study
[1:56:30]
and one of the things it suggested was
[1:56:32]
pick some focus areas where you're going
[1:56:34]
to really lean in and I remember because
[1:56:37]
education was mentioned and from the
[1:56:39]
school side I was like yay. Um but arts
[1:56:42]
is another one that can really it's
[1:56:44]
positive for revitalization but not just
[1:56:48]
like practically but culturally and
[1:56:50]
community um the vibe basically. So,
[1:56:54]
just wanted to throw that out there.
[1:56:56]
>> Thank you.
[1:56:59]
» All right. Next up, we have Heather
[1:57:00]
Smith, please.
[1:57:04]
>> Okay. Next up, we have Chelsea Hoth.
[1:57:12]
» Sure. [laughter] My case, please.
[1:57:17]
» Good evening, everybody. On behalf of
[1:57:19]
Your Way Home tonight, I'm here to ask
[1:57:21]
for your continued partnership in
[1:57:23]
responding to the growing need for
[1:57:25]
housing in Montgomery Countyy's
[1:57:26]
communities. [clears throat] Your Way
[1:57:27]
Home Montgomery County, if you didn't
[1:57:29]
know, it's the county's unified and
[1:57:31]
coordinated housing crisis response
[1:57:33]
system for families and individuals
[1:57:35]
experiencing homelessness or at imminent
[1:57:37]
risk of homelessness.
[1:57:39]
Federal policy changes through HUD's
[1:57:41]
continuum continuum of care funding
[1:57:44]
process is already being implemented.
[1:57:47]
And these these reductions are creating
[1:57:49]
new uncertainties for communities
[1:57:51]
working to prevent and end homelessness.
[1:57:53]
National housing and homelessness
[1:57:55]
organizations have warned that these
[1:57:57]
changes could place additional pressure
[1:57:59]
on permanent housing programs and reduce
[1:58:01]
the stability of funding that local
[1:58:04]
systems rely upon. For Montgomery
[1:58:06]
County, the message is clear. Federal
[1:58:08]
resources alone will not be enough to
[1:58:10]
meet the need. We will need local
[1:58:12]
leadership, practical problem solving,
[1:58:14]
and strong partnerships to expand
[1:58:16]
housing options and ensure that people
[1:58:18]
and families experiencing housing
[1:58:20]
instability have a path to safe, stable
[1:58:23]
homes. Pottstown Burough has played an
[1:58:25]
essential role. We thank you for your
[1:58:27]
willingness to partner with Montgomery
[1:58:28]
County and Opport Opportunity House at
[1:58:30]
the Days In. Since January of 2025, as
[1:58:34]
Kaylee Silver mentioned, over 300 people
[1:58:36]
have been served. Nearly all of them
[1:58:38]
entered experiencing chronic
[1:58:40]
homelessness and 94 have successfully
[1:58:42]
transitioned into permanent housing.
[1:58:46]
Local governments control many of the
[1:58:47]
practical tools that shape whether
[1:58:49]
housing can be created or preserved,
[1:58:51]
including zoning, land use, permitting,
[1:58:53]
and a host of other reasons I've talked
[1:58:54]
to you about before. We also recognize
[1:58:57]
that every municipality is different.
[1:58:58]
The right opportunities in one community
[1:59:00]
may look different from the right
[1:59:02]
opportunities in another. Some
[1:59:04]
municipalities may have publicly owned
[1:59:05]
or underutilized land, while others may
[1:59:09]
have redevelopment opportunities, zoning
[1:59:11]
updates to consider, faith or
[1:59:13]
institutional partners like vacant
[1:59:15]
churches or local projects that could be
[1:59:18]
adapted to meet community needs. So, I'm
[1:59:20]
here tonight to just extend the offer
[1:59:22]
from Your Way Home as their board
[1:59:24]
chairperson to say if you ever would
[1:59:26]
like an update from Your Way Home about
[1:59:28]
the services we can offer, please reach
[1:59:30]
out to me directly as as their chair.
[1:59:32]
Um, we we welcome the opportunity to be
[1:59:35]
a resource to Pottstown. We hope you
[1:59:37]
will participate in a countywide
[1:59:38]
conversation about how local governments
[1:59:40]
can help ensure every county resident
[1:59:43]
has access to safe and stable housing.
[1:59:45]
We would also welcome the chance to talk
[1:59:47]
with you about what we are already doing
[1:59:49]
locally, what barriers you're seeing
[1:59:51]
here in town, and where your way home
[1:59:53]
can step in to help. Uh, this letter is
[1:59:55]
also signed by our vice chair, Meg
[1:59:58]
Sneed. Thank you for your time.
[2:00:00]
>> Thank you.
[2:00:01]
All right. Now we have
[2:00:02]
Chelsea.
[2:00:06]
» Are you speaking Chelsea or is the baby?
[2:00:08]
>> Oh, he doesn't really talk.
[2:00:10]
[clears throat]
[2:00:11]
>> He's only five months old, so he doesn't
[2:00:13]
speak. [laughter] My 5-year-old's in the
[2:00:15]
corner sleeping.
[2:00:16]
>> Um, my name's Chelsea. I'm grateful to
[2:00:18]
be here. Um, I'm a graduate of the
[2:00:20]
Opportunity House program. Uh, yes. In,
[2:00:24]
uh, the spring of 2025, I found myself
[2:00:26]
living in a car um, in my car and I was
[2:00:29]
sleeping in the Walmart parking lot. I
[2:00:31]
was um bouncing from like public parking
[2:00:34]
lot to public parking lot in the middle
[2:00:36]
of the night so I wouldn't get in
[2:00:37]
trouble, right? Um it was probably one
[2:00:39]
of the worst experiences of my life. Um
[2:00:42]
it was right around when my dad passed
[2:00:43]
away, so I really didn't have any
[2:00:45]
support from family. Um and you know, it
[2:00:49]
got to the point where my car got repoed
[2:00:51]
and I was living in tents. Um, so that's
[2:00:54]
when I reached out to Your Way Home and
[2:00:57]
uh they were able to get me on the wait
[2:00:59]
list for shelters in the county. I
[2:01:02]
wanted to stay in Pottstown because I've
[2:01:03]
lived in Pottstown for a really long
[2:01:05]
time and um I'm like my support network
[2:01:10]
I've built is here. So, and my son lived
[2:01:12]
here so I wanted to stay in Pottstown.
[2:01:15]
So, they were able to get me into the
[2:01:16]
opportunity house. And when I was when I
[2:01:19]
got there, I was welcomed. Um, the
[2:01:21]
program really helped me in the sense
[2:01:24]
that like I was really down on my luck.
[2:01:26]
I was addicted to drugs. I didn't have
[2:01:30]
anywhere to turn. I felt hopeless. I
[2:01:32]
wasn't allowed to see my older son. And
[2:01:34]
while I was there, I got to work on my
[2:01:37]
mental health. I got to uh get
[2:01:39]
employment. And I found out that I was
[2:01:42]
pregnant. So, they were very supportive
[2:01:44]
there as well. Um, and then I was able
[2:01:46]
to get the support to get custody of my
[2:01:49]
son back. Since leaving the Opportunity
[2:01:52]
House in January, I've been in stable
[2:01:55]
housing uh through Family Services of
[2:01:57]
Montgomery County, and uh I've been able
[2:02:00]
to get full custody of my 5-year-old.
[2:02:02]
And I've utilized so many like resources
[2:02:05]
and uh different opportunities that the
[2:02:07]
county offers all because the
[2:02:10]
Opportunity House showed them to me. I
[2:02:12]
didn't know all of these things were out
[2:02:14]
there until I went there and was able to
[2:02:17]
swallow my pride and ask for help. They
[2:02:19]
are a very welcoming like organization
[2:02:23]
and they do really care about the people
[2:02:25]
that are there. They all the staff knows
[2:02:29]
every single resident. They like talk to
[2:02:31]
you like you're a human being, not like
[2:02:33]
a statistic. And it is it is very much a
[2:02:37]
program that does a lot of really good
[2:02:39]
work. Um, so that's all I really have to
[2:02:42]
say. Thank you very much.
[2:02:43]
>> Well, KUDOS TO YOU. YOU GO, GIRL.
[2:02:46]
[applause]
[2:02:47]
>> YES.
[2:02:51]
» Love this.
[2:02:54]
>> All right. Next up, we have Bob Brown.
[2:02:55]
Please,
[2:02:58]
>> that's a hard one.
[2:03:01]
>> See what you got.
[2:03:03]
>> Be a little um [laughter]
[2:03:06]
just a a little food for thought. Okay.
[2:03:09]
probably just about all of us the next
[2:03:13]
time something significant comes up as
[2:03:16]
far as the banners are concerned 300 or
[2:03:20]
whatever we're not going to be here.
[2:03:24]
>> So that's just you know a little food
[2:03:26]
for thought. Okay. Um I was glad to see
[2:03:30]
that the banner program is on the next
[2:03:33]
agenda. So that you know kind of filled
[2:03:37]
me up a little bit. Um,
[2:03:39]
normally I come here and I guess most
[2:03:42]
people think I'm the guy of gloom and
[2:03:44]
doom, but I'm not today. Today is a good
[2:03:47]
day and I just want to make sure that um
[2:03:52]
these issues are addressed. That's my biggest thing.
[2:03:58]
Thank you.
[2:03:59]
>> You're welcome.
[2:04:00]
>> Thank you. All right. Next up, we have
[2:04:02]
Art Miller. Please
[2:04:05]
>> ask.
[2:04:05]
>> Art is passing.
[2:04:06]
>> Next is Doug Slick, did you determine
[2:04:10]
>> my time for
[2:04:11]
>> Thank you. All right. Still
[2:04:15]
>> that concludes public comment.
[2:04:18]
>> Okay. Um,
[2:04:24]
counselor's discussion, general
[2:04:26]
discussion. I'm going start with
[2:04:29]
Joe.
[2:04:30]
>> I don't have anything.
[2:04:30]
>> You don't have anything? Okay. How about
[2:04:32]
you, Andrew?
[2:04:34]
>> Couple things.
[2:04:34]
>> Okay. first thing and Johnny Corson, I
[2:04:38]
was at the U car show and uh they took
[2:04:42]
me into a new candy store that's going
[2:04:45]
to be opening. Okay.
[2:04:48]
>> And that's a really cool thing. And so
[2:04:51]
when that What's the name of that place,
[2:04:52]
Peggy?
[2:04:55]
>> Sweet treat.
[2:04:56]
>> Society
[2:04:58]
sweets.
[2:04:58]
>> Is that societ?
[2:05:00]
>> Yeah, that's going to be a really really
[2:05:03]
great thing. And we're going to need
[2:05:05]
lots of events in town that's going to
[2:05:07]
be able to support that because it's one
[2:05:09]
thing to put something in there. And
[2:05:11]
there's another thing to have it leave.
[2:05:14]
>> Say like Mrs. Pickles. Okay.
[2:05:17]
>> Yeah. Gone. Um and so
[2:05:21]
please, please, please, please, when
[2:05:22]
that comes out,
[2:05:24]
>> I mean, it's going to have all kind
[2:05:25]
candy. Probably kind of like the
[2:05:26]
peppermint stick in Boyertown. So, I
[2:05:29]
think that's a a pretty uh cool thing.
[2:05:31]
I'm very happy about that. Um, I just
[2:05:35]
want to let everybody know on Monday
[2:05:38]
night, given what I heard from Peggy,
[2:05:41]
uh, with regard to the banners, I'm
[2:05:43]
going to make a motion to, uh, take down
[2:05:46]
10 of those banners and put the next 10
[2:05:49]
sequential
[2:05:51]
applicants
[2:05:52]
up.
[2:05:54]
I do know the first one on the list
[2:05:57]
is um Mark Gibson's mother, a
[2:06:01]
93-year-old
[2:06:02]
woman who served in uh Korea. And from
[2:06:06]
what I understand, she's the first
[2:06:07]
African-American
[2:06:09]
to from Pennsylvania to serve in the
[2:06:13]
armed forces uh in war. I guess
[2:06:17]
>> I'm going to make that motion. Okay.
[2:06:20]
And we'll see what happens.
[2:06:23]
And last thing I want to talk about is
[2:06:30]
I think that and there is no place no
[2:06:34]
place in this burrow for elected
[2:06:36]
officials to be profitering. None. None
[2:06:40]
whatsoever.
[2:06:42]
They should not be taking part in in
[2:06:46]
making in in getting houses and flipping
[2:06:50]
them and making six figure profits. I
[2:06:53]
think that disqualifies them as a public
[2:06:54]
servant and they should not run for
[2:06:57]
anything ever. That is not okay. I don't
[2:07:02]
know what
[2:07:04]
uh antenna they have to think that's
[2:07:06]
okay, but it's wrong. It is wrong.
[2:07:10]
Wrong.
[2:07:12]
And there's no nice way to say that.
[2:07:16]
I'm going to give Mr. Brandt, okay, the
[2:07:19]
deeds and things that show that I don't
[2:07:21]
know if we'll do anything with it
[2:07:23]
because
[2:07:30]
last
[2:07:32]
>> we had a count hall, Lisa and I, and
[2:07:37]
according to the signin sheet, a lot of
[2:07:40]
people came. Okay, there were 73 people
[2:07:43]
that signed up and another 20 that did
[2:07:46]
not uh want to sign up. Unfortunately,
[2:07:48]
for some reason, it was reported 40%
[2:07:50]
less by Mr. Brandt who was there for all
[2:07:53]
three hours. Don't know why. Perhaps
[2:07:56]
counting wasn't his forte,
[2:07:59]
but I don't appreciate minimizing it
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because
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>> no. [clears throat]
[2:08:07]
[snorts] Okay. I don't want an answer.
[2:08:09]
This isn't a dialogue. this is my time.
[2:08:13]
So,
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we had a lot of people there, a lot of
[2:08:16]
good conversations. We got to talk back
[2:08:18]
and forth, okay? Which was rare,
[2:08:20]
>> which is rare in this burrow. And we're
[2:08:24]
going to have another one. We're going
[2:08:25]
to try to do them quarterly, okay? And
[2:08:29]
it would be nice if maybe the next time
[2:08:33]
some of the other counselors, not more
[2:08:35]
than four, and maybe some of the burrow
[2:08:38]
people could come and listen to the
[2:08:42]
people
[2:08:45]
and not treat us
[2:08:47]
like we have four eyes.
[2:08:52]
So, we're going to have another one.
[2:08:55]
It's great conversation. A lot of people
[2:08:56]
came out and uh
[2:09:00]
hopefully we'll we'll continue them
[2:09:02]
because we're here for you guys, okay?
[2:09:05]
We're here for you, not here for me.
[2:09:09]
We're here for you and we want to hear
[2:09:11]
you.
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» Okay.
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» Ray.
[2:09:22]
>> Okay. So, I got a couple things to say.
[2:09:24]
First, I want to apologize. I was in no
[2:09:26]
way trying to doc dismiss you. I I
[2:09:30]
apologize for that. I do believe in us
[2:09:32]
having an open conversation about things
[2:09:34]
and I I apologize. That was not cool in
[2:09:36]
any way whatsoever. So, um I just want
[2:09:39]
to put that out there. So, um the second
[2:09:41]
thing I want to thank Jamie for a great
[2:09:44]
uh low show. Um it's it's one of my
[2:09:47]
favorite times in Pottown. I love seeing
[2:09:48]
people come to town. The the car show
[2:09:50]
people are such cool people. Um they're fun to mess with. I have a lot
[2:09:54]
of fun messing with them. We sell water
[2:09:57]
and pretzels and soda and energy drinks
[2:09:59]
on behalf of the scouts and they're just
[2:10:01]
a cool group of people and it's always
[2:10:04]
fun for me to have youth engage such a
[2:10:07]
great audience. Um and the uh the guys
[2:10:10]
are always uh guys and gals I should say
[2:10:12]
just you know uh they're always really
[2:10:15]
engaging to the youth. So I really enjoy
[2:10:17]
that. Um, I want to thank Mike and Andy
[2:10:19]
from Parks and Wreck for having a great
[2:10:21]
conversation. Um, there was a um, a
[2:10:23]
recent adult soccer pickup program that
[2:10:25]
was played over at Polloc Park. Um, I
[2:10:27]
played three out of the four nights that
[2:10:29]
we had things going on. Um, I was
[2:10:31]
definitely the oldest guy in attendance.
[2:10:33]
Uh, and probably the guy who that was
[2:10:35]
the longest distance uh, from when they
[2:10:37]
played soccer last to when they were
[2:10:39]
playing soccer now. But, uh, it was
[2:10:41]
still fun. Um, I think that, you know,
[2:10:43]
Pollock Park and the soccer field and so
[2:10:46]
having something like adult soccer is a
[2:10:48]
great boon in our it's a great feather
[2:10:50]
in our cap. You know, when you think
[2:10:52]
about the idea of the art, you know,
[2:10:53]
district and you think about the unique
[2:10:55]
things that we have town downtown and we
[2:10:58]
have great opportunities for people to
[2:10:59]
buy houses and then there are these, you
[2:11:01]
know, these really cool programs that
[2:11:03]
happen. These are the things that
[2:11:04]
attract people to our town and they're
[2:11:06]
the people that attract really young
[2:11:07]
people to our town that want to buy into
[2:11:09]
our town. So I think that's a it's a
[2:11:11]
great opportunity. I'm hoping that we
[2:11:13]
can do something more with it uh in the
[2:11:15]
future. Um but I definitely wanted to
[2:11:18]
kind of uh shine a light on that. Um
[2:11:21]
third thing or fourth thing I guess at
[2:11:23]
this point uh so one of the things that
[2:11:25]
when we when I joined the board, one of
[2:11:27]
the things that we talked about was
[2:11:29]
collaborate on what our vision of a
[2:11:31]
board of the board is. uh what we sort
[2:11:33]
of uh saw as like our hopes and dreams
[2:11:36]
where we saw our commonalities uh where
[2:11:38]
we saw maybe you know things that we saw
[2:11:41]
to overlap. I I don't think that we have
[2:11:44]
that yet and I do want to explore the
[2:11:47]
idea of figuring out what our board is.
[2:11:49]
I mean when I was on the school board I
[2:11:52]
had always uh you know a vision to sort
[2:11:55]
of call back on. Um, and I feel like we
[2:11:58]
as a board don't kind of have that yet.
[2:12:00]
And I would like to see that we would uh
[2:12:03]
work on that idea in the spirit of what
[2:12:06]
Andrew you were talking about in having
[2:12:08]
conversation. And I do, you know, it's
[2:12:10]
exciting that you guys had your town
[2:12:12]
hall. It's great that you had a good
[2:12:13]
turnout. Um, I heard there was a lot of
[2:12:15]
great conversation there. I was unable
[2:12:16]
to come. I had mentioned that I had
[2:12:18]
emailed both you guys. I wasn't able to
[2:12:20]
come because I was playing soccer that
[2:12:21]
night. Um, in the spirit of that idea,
[2:12:24]
what I want to propose, and I sent this
[2:12:26]
to to Trita and Trinita looked over it
[2:12:29]
and then it's something that's in front
[2:12:30]
of Matthew now, is the idea of maybe us
[2:12:33]
um having like a workshop at the end of
[2:12:35]
like our voting meeting. So,
[2:12:36]
historically speaking, our voting
[2:12:38]
meeting tends to be last month was not
[2:12:40]
the case, but uh it tends to be a little
[2:12:43]
on the shorter side, right? It's looking
[2:12:44]
like this uh Wednesday is or or Monday
[2:12:48]
is not going to be the case either. But
[2:12:50]
what I'm sort of proposing if we were to
[2:12:52]
pick certain subjects in advance, we
[2:12:54]
could have kind of like a workshop where
[2:12:56]
we could talk about uh uh a topic,
[2:12:59]
staying on topic, having a conversation,
[2:13:01]
a back and forth, you know, riffing on
[2:13:03]
each other idea, coming up with ideas in
[2:13:06]
advance if there were stakeholders that
[2:13:08]
we wanted to bring in or were interested
[2:13:09]
in bringing in and we could have sort of
[2:13:11]
like a like you were sort of talking
[2:13:13]
like a town hall but really focusing on
[2:13:15]
the idea of having a conversation about
[2:13:18]
a given subject.
[2:13:19]
uh at a board meeting to your point, we
[2:13:22]
people need to see us deliberate and if
[2:13:24]
we're not having uh conversations, then
[2:13:27]
they don't know how we're deliberate,
[2:13:29]
how our thought process is going. So, um
[2:13:31]
I I would like to say that I did not
[2:13:34]
come up with that idea of the workshop
[2:13:36]
all on my own. I need to lay this at
[2:13:38]
Mike Hayes, Laura Johnson, and David
[2:13:40]
Charles feet. Uh they um helped me weigh
[2:13:43]
in or they helped weigh in on the idea.
[2:13:45]
So, it was not something that just came
[2:13:47]
out of this brain. Uh there's other
[2:13:49]
things that come out of the spring, but
[2:13:50]
not that. So, all right.
[2:13:52]
>> Okay. Um Ryan, I'm going to have you go
[2:13:56]
next because Lisa want to take the last
[2:13:59]
one next to last, I guess.
[2:14:01]
>> Certainly comply. Of course, the low
[2:14:04]
show was fantastic as usual. It's took
[2:14:06]
me my son found a Lamborghini in the
[2:14:08]
color that he liked. So, yeah. You know,
[2:14:11]
it's, you know, it was really neat last
[2:14:14]
year and then this year too. We usually
[2:14:16]
we go into the alley, get a beer and sit
[2:14:18]
there and then just really see all the,
[2:14:20]
you know, what downtown is when
[2:14:22]
something like that happens.
[2:14:24]
>> I didn't hear anything negative comments
[2:14:26]
at all or
[2:14:28]
sorry Jamie had one incident, but uh
[2:14:31]
thank our police department and looking
[2:14:33]
forward to
[2:14:34]
>> what he has come in the future.
[2:14:36]
>> Absolutely.
[2:14:38]
Lisa,
[2:14:39]
>> I have a couple things. Okay. Um, first,
[2:14:42]
I just want to address the banners. Um,
[2:14:45]
I am glad to hear that Paid has offered
[2:14:49]
to take down some of the IP pickstown
[2:14:51]
banners and put up some of the veterans
[2:14:55]
banners with people of color. Um, I have
[2:14:59]
a hard time though accepting a
[2:15:02]
three-page document from the burrow as I
[2:15:06]
didn't read the entire three pages
[2:15:08]
because to me it's it's a lot of excuse.
[2:15:13]
Um, I don't know why this has taken so
[2:15:16]
long. Um, I'm sure if that question was
[2:15:19]
answered, it would be another bunch of
[2:15:22]
excuses. To me, this doesn't need to be
[2:15:26]
such a difficult issue and it did not
[2:15:28]
need to drag on this long and I hope
[2:15:31]
council will do something to speed this
[2:15:34]
up.
[2:15:36]
Okay. Um, I would like I guess this
[2:15:40]
would be directed to our president and
[2:15:42]
vice president to consider moving
[2:15:44]
citizens comments up on Wednesday nights
[2:15:48]
because I'm sure a lot of you that had
[2:15:49]
something to say are tired and I'm sure
[2:15:52]
some people have left because they
[2:15:54]
couldn't sit and wait. Um, so I think we
[2:15:56]
should consider that this is the
[2:15:59]
people's meeting.
[2:16:01]
And the last thing I want to address is
[2:16:02]
kind of what we talked about already.
[2:16:04]
Um, I just want to be clear that I have
[2:16:08]
brought concerns as a resident and a
[2:16:12]
council person about development
[2:16:14]
decisions in Pottstown.
[2:16:18]
Those concerns have been dismissed as
[2:16:20]
they're personal.
[2:16:22]
with a specific developer. I warned
[2:16:24]
council about past developments, the
[2:16:26]
material used, changing commitments, and
[2:16:29]
what could happen if we continued
[2:16:30]
granting zoning support, variances,
[2:16:32]
waivers, and other accommodations.
[2:16:35]
I expressed these concerns to every
[2:16:37]
council member, but I was simply told I
[2:16:39]
did not like him. My concerns have been
[2:16:42]
based on experience. When the original
[2:16:45]
church site design was denied,
[2:16:48]
I was removed from a board in my
[2:16:50]
development by the developer.
[2:16:53]
And when he didn't get the outcome he
[2:16:54]
wanted, he sought to remove two council
[2:16:57]
members.
[2:17:00]
My concerns have been based on
[2:17:03]
experience.
[2:17:05]
I want to know if council was aware of
[2:17:06]
those two things that I just mentioned.
[2:17:09]
Even after that, council was presented
[2:17:12]
with a significantly better design. I
[2:17:15]
voted to support that to zoning.
[2:17:19]
I would like council to tell me again
[2:17:22]
how that is personal and that wasn't the
[2:17:25]
first project that I supported.
[2:17:32]
Now, after I warned of all of this, we
[2:17:36]
are back here dealing with changes,
[2:17:38]
additional requests.
[2:17:40]
Will the same behavior be displayed if
[2:17:43]
we deny or don't support something?
[2:17:47]
I have also questioned the continued
[2:17:49]
support
[2:17:51]
that the developer has received from our
[2:17:53]
burrow manager and paid. I would like to
[2:17:56]
understand
[2:17:58]
why. Explain it to me why you
[2:18:01]
continuously support this when you have
[2:18:04]
evidence right in front of you that you
[2:18:07]
have been told that for some reason I
[2:18:11]
feel falls on deaf ears. So if you'd
[2:18:13]
like to explain it to me, please I am
[2:18:16]
all ears.
[2:18:19]
There was two issues that were brought
[2:18:22]
up. the church project um which was
[2:18:26]
tabled to next month and I am still
[2:18:29]
confused on how that happened right
[2:18:32]
before this meeting.
[2:18:34]
To me that's preventing the public from
[2:18:38]
knowing things.
[2:18:41]
Second, we are asked to approve waiverss
[2:18:44]
on a separate project. Why? Why are we
[2:18:48]
being asked this? What justifies
[2:18:50]
continued relief? What has this
[2:18:53]
developer done to give council
[2:18:54]
confidence in granting more
[2:18:57]
accommodations
[2:18:58]
than what the original votes were based
[2:19:00]
on?
[2:19:01]
I've asked these questions before
[2:19:03]
original before original support was
[2:19:05]
given. My concerns were again dismissed.
[2:19:08]
Many of the things I warned are now
[2:19:10]
happening. So, I'm asking again, what is
[2:19:13]
the basis for your votes and your
[2:19:15]
support?
[2:19:18]
My position is based on more than six
[2:19:21]
years of experience. What I've observed,
[2:19:24]
what has occurred where I live, and the
[2:19:26]
evidence before us. Council can vote and
[2:19:30]
move on, but the residents live with the
[2:19:32]
construction, materials, and
[2:19:34]
consequences of those decisions every
[2:19:36]
day.
[2:19:37]
This is not about personality. It's
[2:19:39]
about accountability, transparency,
[2:19:42]
credibility, standards, and whether
[2:19:44]
commitments made to the bureau actually
[2:19:46]
mean anything.
[2:19:48]
I'm asking council to stop dismissing
[2:19:51]
the messenger and examine the evidence.
[2:19:54]
Residents deserve to know not only what
[2:19:56]
decisions we make, but why. Pottstown
[2:20:00]
deserves accountability and better than
[2:20:02]
what we are giving.
[2:20:04]
That's all.
[2:20:12]
Well, I guess it's it's me now.
[2:20:14]
[laughter] I messed up when I skipped
[2:20:17]
over and got a little
[2:20:18]
>> Sorry, that was my fault.
[2:20:19]
>> That's okay. That's okay. I was like,
[2:20:20]
"Wait a minute. Why I feel like I Okay.
[2:20:23]
Um I just want to say uh Red Horse and
[2:20:27]
Low Show did a fabulous job uh with the
[2:20:31]
car show. It was packed and it was cars
[2:20:34]
lined up. It was amazing. All the
[2:20:38]
storefronts was looking beautiful. It
[2:20:40]
was it was great. And um so that Sunday
[2:20:44]
I went to go try to get I wanted to get
[2:20:46]
um me one of the license plates and
[2:20:49]
contribute to the library. And I went up
[2:20:52]
there and I walked around and I said,
[2:20:54]
"Oh, you know, it was a little line. I'm
[2:20:56]
thinking it's maybe 10 people." It was
[2:20:59]
not it. I don't I couldn't even count. I
[2:21:01]
was
[2:21:02]
I wasn't upset. I was emotionally
[2:21:06]
happy that all these people was here for
[2:21:11]
our library like now and they probably
[2:21:14]
wasn't like majority but that line was
[2:21:16]
long. So I'm going to take it that they
[2:21:18]
was doing that for the library. I'm
[2:21:19]
going I'm going to bless it that way. So
[2:21:22]
I was I was so emotional. I said I kept
[2:21:25]
and then every I'm standing there trying
[2:21:27]
to record trying to do a video and
[2:21:29]
people was like like kind of move me out
[2:21:31]
the way because they like trying to get
[2:21:33]
in the line. Um but it was so heartfelt
[2:21:37]
and then I seen
[2:21:39]
you there and I was like oh my he was
[2:21:42]
working he [laughter]
[2:21:44]
he was working he was doing his job. I
[2:21:46]
was like look at I took pictures and
[2:21:48]
stuff and I posted but um that made me
[2:21:50]
feel good. That's that's pot right
[2:21:52]
there. That right there, that's
[2:21:55]
Pottstown. Okay. The cars was lined up.
[2:21:57]
They was running the engines and stuff
[2:21:59]
like that. It was It was It was nice.
[2:22:01]
That was the Potts Town that I love
[2:22:04]
right there. Um
[2:22:08]
I'm I'm glad that the library got there
[2:22:10]
got got some funding. So, that was good,
[2:22:12]
too. Um the town hall meeting, I was
[2:22:14]
there. I was at the town hall meeting
[2:22:16]
and sat next to sat sat next to Dan um
[2:22:19]
the burough council president, the last
[2:22:23]
burough council president and his wife.
[2:22:24]
So I they came to the meeting so I said
[2:22:26]
we we sat near the back cuz I had to
[2:22:28]
leave um and go to work cuz I had to be
[2:22:31]
there early. So um but I was there and I
[2:22:34]
caught up some some of the stuff and it
[2:22:36]
was it was pretty good. I mean, you
[2:22:38]
know, it was it was the you know, the
[2:22:40]
sounding was a little off with the mic
[2:22:42]
and everything, but other than that,
[2:22:44]
they worked it out. Um,
[2:22:48]
I think that's it for me cuz I'm going
[2:22:51]
to go into
[2:22:56]
the back to the agenda. Um, discussion
[2:22:59]
and and potential action on the Heroes
[2:23:03]
of Pottstown banner program.
[2:23:07]
We'll deal with Oh, am I supposed to
[2:23:08]
read that, too?
[2:23:09]
>> Was that me? I couldn't remember. Oh,
[2:23:11]
okay.
[2:23:12]
>> Yeah, just that we're gonna talk about
[2:23:14]
it.
[2:23:14]
>> Okay. Okay. Okay.
[2:23:16]
>> Okay. We will have a discussion and
[2:23:19]
potential action on the Heroes of
[2:23:22]
Pottstown banner program. We ask that
[2:23:25]
everyone review the materials
[2:23:28]
attached to the agenda and that's where
[2:23:31]
it says a heroes banner program. Um,
[2:23:35]
come with your thoughts for Monday's
[2:23:37]
night's meeting and send them to us in
[2:23:40]
advance.
[2:23:41]
Actually, it's not us, not me. You going
[2:23:43]
to send this to Justin or Zach?
[2:23:46]
>> Yeah, you can send them to
[2:23:47]
administration hottown.
[2:23:49]
>> Yep. There you go.
[2:23:51]
>> Okay.
[2:23:54]
All right, counselors, everything is You
[2:23:57]
have any questions about the last one?
[2:24:00]
Okay. All right. I guess we're going to
[2:24:02]
end this meeting
[2:24:04]
at 9:24.
[2:24:08]
25. Okay. 9:25. Thank you. Drive safe.
[2:24:10]
Be safe.