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[8:00] McGuire. McMurtry I. >> High and take a I. >> We now have the

[8:09] presentation and detoxification and withdrawal management facility of fate.

[8:28] Good morning. The Chair, ga County board County manager. Thank you for having

[8:36] us this morning to provide an update on the closure. Vardy talks with trauma management

[8:44] program. I'm Sofia Thompson, the social services director. And I'm here with my

[8:51] colleague. Jo Ling. >> Engine gonna get us started this morning with our

[9:00] presentation. Mourning a chair or taken commissioners and county manager Bcker. My name

[9:06] is Jim Langer and I serve as a human services run the social services department. For just

[9:14] over a year. I was the program administrator for the detox program. Today, Sophia and I

[9:20] will be provided an update on the closure of Ramsey counties detox. strong management

[9:24] services. We'll walk through the history. The transition process, continued support for

[9:29] the residents clients and community providers. Here's a road map for this morning's

[9:37] First will review the history of the detox. A strong management program. They will

[9:42] walk through the closure itself. Highly goals and successes from the transition

[9:46] outline next steps and finally share information, resources and support available in the

[9:51] community. This presentation reflects a collaborative process across multiple

[9:55] departments and community partners. Here's a road map for this morning's briefing.

[10:04] Sorry. So I want get begin by acknowledging the hard working staff of the Tis picture here

[10:08] was the last picture we took. actually of all the staff at the talks many, many years of

[10:14] experience and withdraw management substance use disorders treatment. A lot of

[10:19] hard work. A lot of history. Some of these folks had been with the talks since the early

[10:25] 90's. So they've been with the program for a very long time. Here's a brief history of the

[10:36] detox management program. The program's first license in 1989. Those it was open

[10:40] actually for several years before them in the 90's. The state of Minnesota mandated

[10:45] that every county provide detox services as a safe alternative, certain cars that

[10:51] that incarcerating intoxicated individuals in 2015, the state expanded detox programs to

[10:58] include clinically managed medically monitored, withdraw management, reflecting the

[11:02] growing need for structured medical oversight. Our pogram continue to evolve and came

[11:07] license for a strong management 2022 allowing us to provide enhance clinical and

[11:13] medical care. Although the program received approval. And 22 2022 to Bill for services.

[11:19] It took us a couple years to be able to actually do the process. We weren't able to

[11:25] start that until June of 2024. The programs continue to struggle in the area billing

[11:32] the state statute still requires counties to ensure the talks vacation services

[11:35] are available. allows us to meet that obligation by partnering with community

[11:39] providers, which is what drives transition. We're talking about today. So as you

[11:54] all are familiar, we officially cfo's our program. And at the end last year,

[12:01] December 31st. >> 2025, it was a really difficult decision and a lot

[12:05] of planning went into it. This decision aligned with best practices to reflect the

[12:12] county's broader strategy to shift its specialized services to community based providers.

[12:18] Who have the infrastructure. And some would say expertise to deliver medical withdraw

[12:25] from management care. This change supported right sizing of the county's operational

[12:33] services. Wow. Still ensuring access for residents. Extensive communication

[12:39] efforts so place to message this change. It's truly been a team effort. I'd like for you

[12:47] all to remember. We did not do this alone. As Jim. Thank the team. I also want to

[12:58] acknowledge that there was interdisciplinary team who met frequently to manage this

[13:02] transition. Not only did social services, our public health partners are housing,

[13:10] stability, partners, safety and justice, our racial and health equity administrators

[13:16] liaisons compliance, communications, our health and wellness, broader teen, the

[13:22] sheriff's office evaluation purchasing contracting and legal. And I can't forget the

[13:29] and are planning manager Chris, the Dillon who kelp to for. Our goals were clear. We

[13:35] have to do something tough, but we want to do it right. Communicating with clients,

[13:42] staff and our partners to ensure that clients were able to receive continued. In other

[13:50] facilities and be served. To wind down operations at the building and to create

[13:58] agreements for a new provider to come online and supporting community providers through

[14:02] capacity building grants. So to ensure the smooth transition, we used a multi

[14:12] pronged cmmunication approach. Gov delivery, which you may be familiar with.

[14:17] People can sign up and get e-mails automatically generated to them. Our website

[14:21] was updated. Our signage was updated and ongoing partner communications under what we

[14:27] call our bridge plan. Phase one. We really wanted to focus on ensuring continuity for

[14:36] those with the most critical needs. Navigating support. never geisha null support was

[14:43] offered on site at the current location. >> on on the first floor. We

[14:51] were able to coordinate transportation with the sheriff's office.

[14:54] >> We appreciate our share of partners for that. And we created streamlined work

[14:58] procedures. This multi-layered approach was able was able to help us create a holistic

[15:07] clients centered model. While providing those who still needed service, the best

[15:15] service available and to ensure safety, particularly during the winter months. On

[15:21] the operational side, we managed contract terminations licensing

[15:25] notifications. Donation of our medical supplies and the initial leasing process for a

[15:34] future provider. From January through April. Around April, 5th. Withdraw management

[15:45] assistance had their employment date extended to provide onsite navigational

[15:50] supports. So these were staff who are familiar with the work. We were able to extend

[15:56] the time in which they were going to no longer be with us several months so they can

[16:01] print continue to provide care, particularly during the overnight and weekend hours.

[16:07] We used our Recovery Corporation Corp staff, prices, staff supported again.

[16:13] The sheriff's office. Providers share the providers in the community. sharing

[16:22] daily bed availability with us so we can help clients quickly access care. This ensured that

[16:29] despite the program so sure clients continued to receive timely support. Excuse me,

[16:38] Sophia thank you, Mr. One Quick question and I appreciate you walking

[16:43] through. >> The goals and the entire process and everything from

[16:47] what just shared. Looks like it was pretty famous, but I want to kind of take a quick

[16:51] step back and get quick. Takeaways from you all on the process, the whole were there.

[16:58] Any specific hiccups are challenges like any aspect the roll out whether on the client

[17:07] and or on the staffing and that you found to be challenging or that you would.

[17:16] Implement a different approach. So just want to get a sense any key takeaways that

[17:19] that you all had on. Maybe some of things that didn't work and that you had to

[17:26] quickly pivot and throughout this entire process. Yes, thank you. Commissioner

[17:29] McMurtry for your question. >> Yes, always and hindsight is always 2020. There's always

[17:38] things that we could have done to improve the process and the experience I think. Hiccups,

[17:49] ask challenges. Communication, even though we try our best to make sure that everyone is

[17:58] included in the process. And we were thoughtful about the rollout approach of how we

[18:00] communicate. There's always a way to improve. I think our communication. Doing hard

[18:09] things is hard. And no matter how attempted to approach individuals about the decision

[18:18] and informing them of the steps there are things we could have done differently.

[18:24] And so. I would say absolutely. I the staffing challenges we found way to

[18:34] collaboratively work through. We have 24 hour coverage. I think that was a major concern

[18:40] and we were able to accomplish that. And that's because of that team effort. So

[18:44] hindsight, yes, there's always things we could do differently. I think I would

[18:49] say that because of the partnerships of everyone involved, we did something

[18:52] really hard and I I would. Propose that we did it where they're in

[19:04] >> documents or any processes in place to to come document that feedback, whether it exit

[19:10] surveys from staff or from from clients that we capture any of those specifically

[19:14] wasn't more. So just anecdotal of what you may have been hearing directly from staff.

[19:21] >> Commissioner Mark Tree. We were not able we did not take exit surveys for All that were

[19:29] laid off in this process or even those that had their layoffs extended. We did not

[19:35] do that. And I would have connect with my HR partners explore how we may have done

[19:41] that differently. I will I will add that I offered the opportunity to talk with

[19:50] everyone individually. Jim, get a lot of connecting with people individually. There was

[19:54] a lot of emotion around this. As there should be. And for those who were able to extend

[20:01] their time with us for a few more additional months. I did have individual conversations

[20:08] with them and they were very grateful and did express some more of that challenge. But

[20:14] the opportunity and a few were able during that short time able to at least one was able

[20:20] to transition to another job during that time. And so those individuals who stay on after

[20:26] we were able to maybe get a little bit more information from. Now as we look at the

[20:38] clients served this slide is showing January through April. >> We served 91 individuals.

[20:47] In January February. 66 March, 27 and April. 34. Most of the contacts were handled by phone

[20:59] with a similar number requiring face to face navigation course. Sheriff's

[21:03] office transport. You can see that was very minimal. These numbers demonstrate ongoing

[21:09] demand for the importance of maintaining strong navigation referral process during the

[21:14] transition and continual connections to care to ensure a smooth transition. As of

[21:23] April. 30th on site navigation support ended and staff agreements concluded. Going

[21:30] forward. Individuals who walk up during building Ahlers will receive referral information.

[21:35] >> And can contact. 6, 5, 1, 2, 6, 6, 4, 9, 0, 0, 4 assistance. That's the

[21:45] original in traditional the talks number that has not changed. We just have

[21:50] different people managing and operating that line. Embedded social workers from are

[21:55] appropriate response initiative. We'll continue to answer that detox line. Check

[22:02] messages and receive daily bed availability updates.

[22:06] >> Transportation has now ended, as you can see. >> Those numbers are really

[22:11] low. So. >> Operationally, we ended that at this time. But during

[22:14] the process, we learned that many of the current detox providers while in other parts

[22:23] of the metro area provide transportation. You can simply call. And as we are as we were

[22:31] helping to arrange that those detox beds with our partners, they would send their cab or

[22:41] form of transportation to pick people up. That great learning during this process. Moving

[22:47] here >> I just have a quick question, which is given the

[22:52] number of folks who involved in this interdisciplinary team for the bridging and now we're

[22:57] at this point. I'm just wondering how continued education, communication

[23:05] interdisciplinary work is being done to continue to allow community to know

[23:09] different ways to access the talks or housing or any of the other services that we're all

[23:16] wanting our communities to have no wrong door, so to speak. I think of the capital

[23:20] comments hub. >> I'm wondering, do we have any public health or mental

[23:25] health or other kinds of connections to that as it grows and becomes recognized

[23:32] as as as a place for community to get help. I'm just I'm just wanting to make sure that we

[23:38] continue this momentum and all different directions. >> Yeah. Let me first address

[23:44] the capital comments have been just want to make sure that we're all aligned here. It is

[23:48] one opportunity, but we need to take a broader systems. around how where doing

[23:54] outreach and supporting our residents, both like the quality of life issues just on

[24:00] the streets as well as a need like this as well as you guys have heard of the safe and

[24:04] strong initiative as well as using our different mobile vehicle side. Just I just want

[24:09] to caution, you know, certainly so if you can can answer in terms of

[24:12] opportunities to make sure we're doing good bridging. I just I think it's premature

[24:17] for us to maybe use talk too much about the capital comments until we get a

[24:21] broader organizational strategy. >> Okay. And I think you're

[24:25] indicating what I was trying to get out, which is that with so many people who are part of

[24:30] this, how do we make sure they're still connected to community exact so they have

[24:33] access to the information to get to the services. >> Thank you for the committee

[24:36] for the question. Commissioner Jeff Dunn saying and your comments, county manager

[24:41] Becker. >> I'll let you finish. I have another OK commission and one

[24:50] But you can trust so >> primary vehicle at this, what we have several

[24:55] strategies around communication. We are continuing to update the Web

[24:59] sites or communication partners and and funneling people to that website has

[25:03] been vital. It has. We've updated it to point where it has a lot of information.

[25:09] Where people can access other detox during gap period, which talk a little bit about a

[25:17] minute in terms of communication. We are using our various meeting venues and

[25:23] so through our going to have to think of the that the organization, but we have

[25:30] several community partners where vendors and folks get together to talk about

[25:35] updates. Te specific meeting names are not coming to me and in the East Metro, provider

[25:41] alliance. And so that is one avenue where providers are coming together to share

[25:46] updates. There's aso the east, another east Metro, group that meets. And so we

[25:51] use those vehicles to share this information. Despite that, we still know that

[25:57] people will call and that is why that phone line is available. 24 by 7 internally

[26:03] in terms of collaboration, we have. We have some said it. The formal meetings that were

[26:10] to plan for the bridging. But for those who are part of what we call face to bridging, we

[26:16] are still meeting and having those court nations and we continue make ourselves

[26:21] available. Should there be any questions and missed opportunities? We take those

[26:26] reflect and see how we might pivot. >> So really quick question.

[26:32] One back to the clients served graph that you provide. seems to be a steady decrease those

[26:41] that are being served. I'm just wondering from your perspective, heading into

[26:43] phase 2, is there in anticipated increases. We hit the spring and summer months

[26:50] are due anticipating continuing to the clot. >> Commissioner Emrich

[26:59] McMurtry County board County manager Becker. >> I anticipate that as enter

[27:06] the summer months, those who are in need of services will continue to rise while we saw

[27:15] decrease specifically in the total individuals served our phone calls and are face to

[27:22] face to me. That is the indication that we were helping people. We were

[27:26] communicating well with where people can go to get the actual service and that are

[27:32] particular support really became phone, triage and navigational supporting

[27:37] because we weren't able to serve people on the campus on the site. And so I imagine

[27:44] that this is not a reflection of the we know that there is going to be continued We know

[27:49] that we will continue to get phone calls and through helping through this process.

[27:53] I think many have ben educated where else can we received this service or a

[27:59] similarly situated service in the metro area? So that has been a success. Will we see

[28:05] these numbers go up? It's hard to say our primarily now our phone calls are still coming

[28:13] from our hospital partners. So we're going to do some education, continuing

[28:17] education and conversation with them around where folks can go but the true essence of

[28:24] community. Members sowing up or wanting the service has really do. down at this time.

[28:35] >> No, appreciate that. am glad to hear that the educational pieces coming into

[28:40] into effect as well because I would imagine there's going to be continue community who may

[28:46] not even know that the detox and clothes and wool. We'll continue to reach out. I'm

[28:50] also thinking aout, you know, ensuring the capacity of our and then a social workers as

[28:56] part of right to ensure that. >> thought if there is an increase of they still have

[29:04] their capacity to do. You know that job on top of continuing to answer detox on number. So

[29:09] just something to think through, if we potentially see, you know, increase

[29:12] heading into the summer months of maintaining that balance and that capacity for the

[29:19] social workers too, to do that work. >> Thank you for that

[29:24] Commissioner McMurtry. I will just take a moment to plug are appropriate response

[29:29] initiative and the great staff who are really pivoting to do just that. What is the

[29:36] appropriate response? How can I support? How can I lean? so those embedded social workers

[29:41] at the 9-1-1 call center who are now taking these calls. This is really up teir alley.

[29:45] I would say that it hasn't. And my understanding of communicating with the leads

[29:51] that it falls well in line with what they think what they feel their work should be. And

[29:57] for a part of appropriate response team that are going out or the public health

[30:01] folks, they are all vote into what's happening. And so it really is natural pivot, if

[30:07] you will, in terms of the work they were doing and continuing to educate link Lake community

[30:13] members to the right service that they need in a different location.

[30:20] >> So then all of this information the transition is on the website.

[30:27] >> Commissioner Ortega, the details of the transition. Some of that is on the

[30:30] website. Yes, not all of it. The website primarily leading people to where they can

[30:37] access services. Now. Thank you. I I will wrap us up here briefly with just a few more

[30:47] slights. through a competitive solicitation. Through competitive solicitation

[30:58] process. A local provider is currently in negotiations, meaning we're not able to talk

[31:02] about who the individual is and being selected as a community provider to operate

[31:09] at or floral to space. So the space in which we as a county owned and operated these talks

[31:16] have vacated. We put out a request for proposal for individuals t apply. Someone

[31:21] was selected. We are at the end of that process and you all will be hearing more about

[31:26] who was selected in the upcoming weeks. >> used to feed be guarding

[31:30] the facilities. So what are type of services that have applied and R B?

[31:43] >> Commissioner Ortega, the RFP was provide detox, withdraw management services

[31:47] only. What we know is that this is continuum of care detox withdraw mnagement

[31:56] services is one aspect of of detoxing. And after that, folks want to go to

[32:03] another level and another level there. We learn throughout this process. There

[32:08] was an appetite to do more. And with consideration of the location of the facility

[32:16] parking having a tenant and that collaboration. We were very clear that at this

[32:23] particular time we are looking for a provider who would be in that space. It would be able

[32:30] to provide the tax and withdraw management services only at this time recognizing

[32:36] there's a continuum of care that we support, but not at that site. Not at this time.

[32:44] >> thank you as chair through the RFP process that we also make clear just you just know

[32:49] some of the things that we offered when we have that space. To ensure that whoever

[32:55] the new tenant is that they also offer those same services like, you know, that the

[33:01] building for walk-ins to come. I'm like, are there aspects of what we did that we know that

[33:06] that were beneficial for the community, that we are also expecting this new tenant to

[33:11] also provide thanks for the question commission McMurtry. >> Yes, Jim Langer here is

[33:17] also known as excel extraordinaire. And how knows how to pull all the numbers

[33:24] and the data and in connection with Carissa Dylan, we were able to really look at are we

[33:31] serving? So we structured the RFP to ensure that the demographics language.

[33:39] >> the substance Usage that we see commonly use the respondents needed to respond

[33:48] to how they would serve our unique Ramsey County population. And then the team,

[33:54] which I was not a part of who did, you know, did this selection process chose best

[34:01] defender for that? And I will say for that, that's applicant, if you will. One

[34:07] thing about. able to use the facility is we did. We had it tiered. The RFP was tiered.

[34:17] the first tier was really about someone who either has a current license and another

[34:21] part of the state so that we knew that they could have had the ability to get licensed

[34:27] quickly. I'm going a little far my head of myself. But that being said, the process

[34:34] at the state is that until your lease is signed? And you are secure in your facility.

[34:39] You can't even apply so during from that from the closure until now of selecting the

[34:45] vendor, the capacity builder opportunity for on tier one really was about a vendor who

[34:52] could come in and really get up and rnning quickly. And we think we have a vendor who is

[34:54] able to do that and once the lease assigned shortly here after that point is then and

[35:03] only then are they ale to apply for a license to the state and that process can

[35:07] take approximately 6 months less or So to be clear, we are still looking at a vendor

[35:15] coming. Providing the service through the capacity building opportunity and probably late

[35:23] December January of 2027. Thank I have commission is saying then commissioned the

[35:29] shot. >> Yeah. So a cuple questions. One is it sounds as

[35:33] if this is a typical process and we assume that all will go well, given hearing that you

[35:39] did. But if for some some reason they would be issue with the licensure, you know,

[35:45] will the will is it? Is it going to be the six-month kind Lisa licensure, the salacious

[35:52] or so that's what's delaying it is is the first the process for licensure.

[35:58] >> Commissioner Kevin saying yes, the delay at this point is really just you're a

[36:03] frantic process right? At this point. Now that we've selected someone the next steps, yes,

[36:10] it will be the licensure process and how fast we can work through because the

[36:15] vendor. Unlicensed before we are strongly confident. I would like to be clear that

[36:25] the relationship that Ramsey County has with the vendor will be a leasing

[36:29] relationship. Supporting the vendor with the facility use of the facility Pretty much at

[36:39] no cost. That is our capacity building. And then they were they will be awarded $50,000

[36:46] for start-up Funds and Soul. That really is the relationship. We we don't

[36:52] manage the license or monitor the license. It will be the state's responsibility to do

[36:59] that. Our obligation will really b to the the lease which are partners in property

[37:05] management at the appropriate time will come and discuss the finance of the And during that

[37:10] during that time of licensure, are we able to allow the tenant basically to come in

[37:17] and do whatever to come on to modifications to the building so that it's not.

[37:19] >> Yet another 6 months of of whatever you know, every every everybody who comes in makes

[37:28] us their own. So can we use that time wisely? Yes, commissioner Jeff and saying.

[37:34] >> At the point signing the lease, the tenant has full access to the building to do

[37:39] the things that are appropriate within the least. We do believe that

[37:43] modifications will be minimal, given that it structures specifically modified already

[37:48] for detox withdraw management. But we want to support them with getting him to the

[37:52] building the grant dollars are structured in a way to support that. So that once the license

[38:01] is approved, we are ready to go. Are they that they'll be ready to go to start serving

[38:06] residents? And then one last question is I know that at this time the RFP was

[38:10] specifically to for detox and and and withdraw management. >> But knowing that there is

[38:15] step down and kind of a continuum of some buddies, healing.

[38:20] >> Is there a future option the either within this space or or in surrounding space for

[38:26] that? That's a grower with a have to happen in a different location.

[38:30] >> Commissioner Jeff saying I think to answer that question. I would need to really lean my

[38:36] deputy county managers and some of their vision for all of the needs that we have here

[38:41] in Ramsey County. This is one aspect and it definitely intersects with the other

[38:47] departments and other needs. Whether or not that location is appropriate to be used for

[38:58] Matters. Beyond the trick detox withdraw management, which which we've used it for.

[39:04] Really is a conversation that I think needs to be had with the CMO, office.

[39:09] >> I appreciate I appreciate that. One Ramsey County and also a complex response

[39:13] knowing that we're balancing a lot of different goals that one time. So thank you. Thank

[39:17] you. >> Just under not only was going to crank, that just sets

[39:22] up on information. If that facility was appropriate full, whatever the potential of

[39:31] expanding and that space is there. building was built. So you can add another floor.

[39:38] that I have tiong. >> And then morning thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr.

[39:46] thank you so much. know the commissioners here for asking so many of the good questions

[39:49] that I had to my my first question is in our lease language with And the

[39:59] relationship is will they be able to provide similar services? as we had where it's

[40:06] almost like low barrier access. >> Commissioner John, yes, as

[40:12] part of the RFP and the capacity-building grant, the expectation is that low

[40:20] barrier access and a sliding scale fee. >> That started at 0. Citing

[40:27] scale fee that starts at 0 was part of the expectation of the provider given the

[40:32] capacity-building grant. >> Regarding the least I want to leave that to property

[40:35] management who will be in front of you in just a few weeks. I believe to talk about

[40:40] the least. don't want to overstep and speak to the lease agreement. I can speak

[40:43] to the grant capacity-building grant agreement. >> And

[40:51] >> It sounds like they will also be needing a few months to get license and to get

[40:55] start start up to what ae we doing in the interim between that between now and then

[41:04] finally getting partner off the ground? >> Commissioner John, can you

[41:08] clarify for me when you say what are we doing now? Do you mean for residents or with the

[41:12] provider? Yes, yes, but residents right now. >> So

[41:20] >> as we as we are moving forward. >> With Commissioner Strong as

[41:25] we are moving forward. >> The >> I think best way to answer

[41:31] your question, what we are doing for residents. We move to phase 2 of the bridge plan

[41:35] which which means that we are not opening the doors. We don't have someone sitting on

[41:43] site nights and weekends. So during phase one, we actually have staff who

[41:48] are sitting at the building nights and weekends waiting for people to walk in. As you

[41:55] saw, those numbers were really, really minimal of people walking in. So then we

[41:59] transition to just phone support. And so that is the same support that was already

[42:05] being provided. So I would argue that the only thing that's being removed in this

[42:09] phase is someone being physically on site. After 08:00PM. Till 07:00AM. And

[42:16] then on the weekends as a reminder, the floral to University Avenue urgent care

[42:24] still operational. And that is where staff were supporting out of. And so if someone were

[42:28] to come to the building during regular operations, we do have staff that are able to support

[42:34] and help navigate. But the service is really won't be any different. Then that would be

[42:45] providing other than physical person there answer that phone or excuse me, answer the door

[42:51] after 08:00PM and on weekends. Does that answer your question?

[42:53] >> Yes, it does. Thank you. And then Mr. Chen just one last question. director

[43:00] Thompson, since you had mentioned that the relationship essentially going

[43:07] forward leasing tpe relationship where they're using our facility for

[43:13] basically rent free. Are we imagining then in our contract work or at least with them and

[43:21] I know that you're you're not in charge of the leasing agreement, but maybe county

[43:25] manager, you can chime in to us needed. The question is are we expecting some sort of a

[43:33] relationship similar to the one that we have Regions Hospital they are required to

[43:37] do like charity care. We're if folks are uninsured or underinsured, that they will

[43:42] still be able to access the services. >> Commissioner Jean, I can

[43:46] answer that. That's actually part of the grant agreement. So with the RFP as we put it

[43:51] out, part of the requirement was that they're able to do just that. And so, yes, that's

[43:56] actually part of the grant agreement, not the lease agreement. So the way we

[44:00] structured the grant is that it is for the length of time that the leases so they work,

[44:07] they run concurrently. And in addition to the building, there are some dollars. And as

[44:13] those dollars are being released, there still be holding to the expectations in

[44:17] the grant. So that is a part of the grant. That was. The capacity-building grant that

[44:23] was issues. >> And last, last question here, I know that that that

[44:31] that was the last one. just like response for and for the number of beds. Are we making

[44:41] a requirement that the cannot limit or decrease the level of service or to to the number

[44:49] clients or patients that may may need the service. Because, you know, I can adjust and

[44:55] anticipate that there may be some operation challenges later that. It's a possibility

[45:01] where, you know, the staffing level where they're down staffing and they cannot meet

[45:07] the requirements of their license, right. And they would have to make those changes.

[45:11] But we also have a certain number of that. How can we ensure you know, Ramsey County

[45:20] residents are prioritized some of those decision-making that happens.

[45:24] >> Commissioner Jean, it's it's a great question. Part of agreement and the way that

[45:31] this relationship is set up is that we are not going to tell the leasing party the grantee

[45:40] awardee how to operation allies. We know that when we ran our own detox withdraw

[45:46] management facility, there were times where we had to lower our census. There were

[45:51] times where you don't get to choose, whether i's Ramsey County residents or someone

[45:55] from Wisconsin who's coming to receive the service. And those are. Substance use disorder

[46:03] standards within the community within the licensure. And so our request is that they are.

[46:08] >> That Minding or that they are a responsible holding the licensure expectations. But we

[46:21] carefully were towing the line of can we tell them how to do operations aside from

[46:29] stipulating in the Grand tenure, Lee's that it is for withdrawal management and

[46:34] detox services. Only we are not going we have at this point are not in. Intending to

[46:41] dictate their operations. That is their business right to do and we know that we are going

[46:50] to be working on how clients. Transition from maybe someone comes to the urgent care on

[46:56] the lower level first floor and needs to go to the test. We know we'll have to have a

[47:02] relationship. So and thus far, the partnership has been great. So I anticipate that if

[47:08] those challenges are we have some concerns. We have an ability to have that

[47:13] communication and understand their barriers. While expressing things that we need

[47:19] to make sure happen as well. But it is it is a dance with how we're able to tell them

[47:26] how to operationalize. Their services. I don't know if that answers your question.

[47:33] >> It did. Thank you. Director Thompson, thank you, Mr. Chair.

[47:35] >> Thank you. Thank you. Mister one. I just like to say I appreciate government

[47:43] getting out the way in that the community based organization do the work that

[47:46] way. What they experienced expertise and do it the way they feel needs to be done a

[47:50] population that they are serving. And so I just want to one 0st. And now it's the hard

[47:59] work to come from Ramsey County staff and work if over the years. And at insight to

[48:05] partner with community to have services provide it right in that process does take time.

[48:15] But also want us to bring us back to the conversation we last year about why was

[48:19] closing the detox and that was the fact that was losing a million dollars a year because

[48:25] we could not feel to be That was reason why. Right? We didn't have people who are

[48:32] struggling with fentanyl in other stuff. The use coming into. To get the help that

[48:38] they need and mainly what we've seen, more people who are dealing with alcoholism

[48:42] and, you know, issues like that who were coming in for support. And that was like 5,

[48:50] 6, That would be infield. I believe a very low number that would be feel from the 50

[48:55] bands that were available. So just want to bring us back to that piece about why close and

[49:04] what we felt that we can continue to take up and I lost every year. And so I as I say

[49:10] that and I think about where we are right now with leasing to a community-based

[49:15] organization, a community partner. So where do the last fall when? they may be a lot.

[49:26] We still may not need to feel So do that last fall, what looked like to have fall on

[49:37] the community providers providing services are doing a little bit more that it was

[49:41] different from what Ramsey County vision and purpose You know, how do we maintain that

[49:49] building? Seel and I know from. However, many clients come in they can now get

[49:57] reimbursed and those dollars maybe can't recoup something. Look at you kind like plane.

[50:02] Give some clarity on that that piece of what we're doing here. Thank you, commissioner

[50:10] I will do my with your with your layered question and tell me if I'm that hitting the

[50:14] answer. >> Where Ramsey County struggle. That's they were.

[50:22] There are multiple reasons of why we closed. >> Definitely decreasing bed

[50:27] capacity or excuse me. That utilization was one of them, right? So while the facility

[50:34] maybe have to phone a friend here while the facility held up to 50 we were only using, I

[50:41] think 2022 at any given time and rare occasion when we get that high. Will likely be no

[50:49] different. Then the new provider. Bt again, they're experts. This is their

[50:54] businesses. What they do and where we struggled. In addition to that, that usage

[51:00] in how pople were utilizing the facility. We also struggle with our billing operations

[51:11] with a provider with this. Is there a line of business? This is what they do. We truly

[51:15] believe that they've mastered what we baby struggle get on board. And we talked about

[51:19] those challenges of just the county environment. We were the last of 2 who still owned

[51:25] and operated. A county ran detox facility. >> And as that,

[51:30] >> infrastructure and the responsibilities and the expectations were swiftly

[51:34] changing under the licensure aspect as a county provider, we weren't able to change fast

[51:40] enough. And so I think I being able to feel the 50 beds. I don't anticipate. I don't. I.

[51:50] The hope is that the provider coming on will be able to maximize and not turn anyone

[51:58] away. And so if there is a need for 30 or 40 beds to be used, if we would have seen

[52:03] that need, we would have been able to also. You know, increase, they use

[52:08] utilization. I don't know that. I answered question. thank you. That at the

[52:15] Thompson. That was that was helpful, expecting. You know, I'm trying to get a picture of

[52:19] what we doing here and why we're doing it. >> And what would be the

[52:22] difference? Because we don't want a community-based organization to come and feel

[52:26] also right. And so the hope is that I love the idea of the capacity grants like to help.

[52:34] You can often get things moving. We want this to be sustainability. You know, if

[52:40] people are still call me nor stopping by, tell us at the minimum that there's still a

[52:44] need for it to be there and just wanted to get really clear vision. The difference,

[52:55] right. And what I heard you say is that Ramsey County struggled with the building

[52:59] operation, been able to Beal. We recoup those dollars tonight. And the hope is the

[53:08] community organization would have this ability is what they do and there will be able to

[53:12] do this efficiently and effectively bringing the dollars that they need to to

[53:18] some sustainability at that location, correct? Correct. And and commissioner also just

[53:24] say >> our leadership. While Jim was able to step in after the

[53:30] last administrator transition having tis is a line of service where being really and

[53:40] vetted and understanding SV community needs that male you what's happening? Our

[53:43] structure of how we? >> Offer. >> Jobs or how we fill gaps

[53:49] when we have them isn't always the most effective. And so again, I think there are

[53:54] things that our that our county structure. That we do really, really well and work

[54:01] for a lot of service lines. This is one where it just didn't work as well. the

[54:07] providers coming in again, they this is their this is what they do. They understand

[54:14] they know and they can pivot quicker. Then we as a as a large organization can.

[54:20] >> So I appreciate that. The wisdom knowing where on our skills are, what we lacked

[54:30] skill to do the work and the services and open enough to partner with a community-based

[54:35] organization. The has the expertise is connected to the community to continue to

[54:39] provide the services we just have send 6 months delay for them to go to all that. The

[54:49] process is that they need to go to so although the building itself is not open pathways

[54:56] for people to get the that they need when they need. asked phone calls or been

[55:04] redirected 2 other providers >> That's correct. Commissioner. And there are

[55:10] still path where you ways and that's not to say that people don't want facility in Rains

[55:15] County. We know that having detox withdraw management facility in Ramsey County is

[55:21] important and we will get there and the hope is with Tier 2, 3, of the RFP, which

[55:27] we'll talk about a minute. We're going to be released. We weren't able to release the

[55:33] funds for a provider who did not want the building but still wanted to bild a detox

[55:36] withdraw management facility. And since the selection and the negotiations for that

[55:45] initial opportunity did not. conclude we are reissuing the 2nd half of te RFP to

[55:52] encourage and to say that we have some stake in this. We know that we have some

[55:58] responsibility while detest withdraw management, I would argue is not a core county

[56:02] responsible service, which is why we considered. Could this be done elsewhere because this

[56:08] work is being done by community providers in the Rest of the state and sell

[56:15] pivoting and doing that. We we are now able to continue to focus on the core

[56:21] responsibilities while letting those experts. And that's not to say I want to clarify its

[56:26] not say that our staff are not or didn't have expertise. However. Our enterprise and

[56:30] how we are set up made it challenging to be the most effective all the time. Thank

[56:37] you. Thank you for sharing it. >> Commissions seeing just a quick comment on that. I am

[56:42] just thrilled to hear that there will some seed money to encourage diverse community

[56:48] based approach outside of the facility. As as as those of us who are engaged in in the

[56:54] ceiling and caring services, it's not a one size fits all it may be the 3rd 4th provider

[57:01] therapist program facility, neighborhood cohort that you walk in the door with that is

[57:07] that that flips the switch that allows you to get the care that you need and we need

[57:10] to make sure we have multiple options for folks in our community. So thought think

[57:14] you >> All right. I'm gonna around out here. We've talked a

[57:20] little bit about some of this for me to see where I'm at here. So we continue to update

[57:29] our signage, our website and all of our communication tools. To let folks know where

[57:33] we are at. I mentioned that we are continuing to get calls from hospital partners and we

[57:40] continue to talk with them and educate them. We know they have a large staff as well.

[57:43] And with when in doubt, just call. And that's what the message we want to send. We

[57:48] are not physically open for folks to come to us. But when in doubt just call and we are

[57:55] okay to help navigate those services. Let's see here. As we transition to this

[58:04] community based detox service, several county initiatives continue to support

[58:10] individuals with substance use and related needs. >> As was mentioned earlier,

[58:15] the safe and Strong University Avenue initiative integrates law enforcement service

[58:19] providers and prosecutors to connect people with services. Our syringe service program.

[58:25] Out of public health area offers. reduction tools, wound care, naloxone, training and

[58:34] testing strips, adult and mobile crisis. Teams continue to provide stabilization and

[58:39] prices support. And our core program. And 1919, University offers co occurring mental

[58:47] health and substance use services throughout a multidisciplinary team. So

[58:50] while the tax will draw management services is one aspect along the continuum of

[58:54] care that is needed. We are still providing multiple supports as Rmsey County. And

[59:03] we while remain connected with our partners. And so at this time, we would like to thank

[59:08] you for your time and attention today. an interest in this and I we will stand.

[59:14] We will stand for any additional questions. >> Any questions? Well, so if

[59:23] say you and your team have done a very good job. It's been a smooth you will

[59:30] transition is I know just from my phone, that rain that you've been doing a good So

[59:40] share that with team. thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Chair take or take

[59:44] a >> commissioners and county manager year. We have a

[59:52] legislative update. Thank Thank you, Mister Chair. Well, the legislature did.

[1:00:01] >> And the night and Sunday. A fair amount of work. We we disappointed they can get all

[1:00:11] the big issues that we have maybe wanted some gun violence prevention legislation and

[1:00:14] that that's a metro surge compensation didn't pass, but they did pass a bonding bill.

[1:00:21] Unfortunately, we were not a part of that, although there were other, there was a

[1:00:26] significant part 4 at Saint Paul, which is included in Manatee County basic

[1:00:33] infrastructure in 13 million for sure. Infrastructure repair along West 7th.

[1:00:39] 40 million for a broken jaw to Tory medications and 10 million for the thank. You

[1:00:43] see no arena. So there was investment in. Parts Ramsey County, just not ones we were

[1:00:51] looking for, we will give will. I'll give will have government relations here

[1:00:54] before in in a couple of within a week and we'll get the more details of all the

[1:01:02] things that happened. But I will say that there was some statewide efforts with AMC are

[1:01:07] association, Minnesota counties. And as that really helped with some of the big

[1:01:12] issues that we're facing in, those include the Health and Human Services. bill, which

[1:01:17] did include funding to help counties with SNAP administrative costs and to

[1:01:22] support implementation of the Minnesota African-American part family partnership,

[1:01:29] Family Preservation Act. Sorry. And so we are going to get some help with that. Also,

[1:01:38] the human services, it modernization. Got created, a new human services systems,

[1:01:47] modernization Fund with it grants for counties so that we can begin to do that work. Not

[1:01:52] enough money in that, but at least some a start. And there was also a new funding for a

[1:01:58] family homeless prevention assistance program and funding for supportive housing for the

[1:02:03] continuum of care. Panties that this is all because of unstable federal funding.

[1:02:08] We've had that the state has had to step up and provide more funding.

[1:02:14] >> So how we >> I keep working. We are legislative team is going meet

[1:02:20] and in the in the next week and just talk about plans for next year. Already. And how

[1:02:28] we're going to, you know, work with our legislative delegation in a productive way

[1:02:34] to get the things that we really need. And we will be doing a board workshop on our

[1:02:41] on our legislative outcomes for this for this year. >> with that, Mister Chair

[1:02:48] will I end this report. If anyone else has anything, they'd they'd like to add that

[1:02:52] more a much more detailed the port follow. I will say that AMC did a great job.

[1:03:00] highlighting some of the outcomes yesterday in a meeting that they had. And I

[1:03:06] encourage that you all to, you know, listen in on the meetings, me. zoom calls that

[1:03:14] AMC has that gives all the Things that happened statewide for the issues that we care

[1:03:21] about. So with that, I will in my report and thanks to Julie Wood legislative it. my

[1:03:27] colleague Commissioner Brent Commish county manager back are a lot of people worked

[1:03:33] really hard at the end of session to get the things that did happen. And just thanks to

[1:03:39] everyone who works hard. >> Thank Commissioner Jean. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair, I

[1:03:48] just had a question our delegation team, legislative team. quick for the it

[1:03:57] modernization is that for just the state's it general modernization orders that for

[1:04:01] Martha wants that the uses to verify and applications for social services and financial

[1:04:12] assistance services. >> Thank you, Commissioner Jean, it's a great clarifying

[1:04:19] question and I'm we will get more details on this. But it's my understanding that we did

[1:04:23] get 10 million for it grants to counties as we know, many of us could use way over

[1:04:28] 10 million for our own county. >> So that's why I said it's not it's it's some money, 4

[1:04:34] counties, but it is it grants to counties that's there's money that goes into the state

[1:04:41] Human Services Modernization Fund. And then in addition to that, some money goes to it.

[1:04:45] Grants for counties. We've been fighting for that, you know, for to get some money

[1:04:50] dedicated specifically to counties and they're starting with But 10 million dollar

[1:04:56] grant. So it's at least a start. But that weaken in our workshop where we get all the

[1:05:04] details. We get even more specific for you on that. But my understanding is that. That

[1:05:11] it statewide money and specifically for counties. >> acquired Vice Chair Moran,

[1:05:19] thank you so much for all your time. Spent at the legislature this I know that it's you

[1:05:26] know, especially challenging, Lynn it and share share part of powers between that the

[1:05:37] House just some of Some thank you. >> I would add. Thank you,

[1:05:44] Commissioner Shine that it was it was it is it's a difficult times that we're in because

[1:05:52] they're assured powered the legislature so can move forward on as many things as

[1:05:54] we might like. And also the federal government's lack of of providing resources for the

[1:06:00] things that we really need has really put a strain on the state budget. And of course,

[1:06:04] on all of our county budgets. And s we continue to feel that impact of the lack of

[1:06:11] federal, federal resources into the things that we that require us to do and into the

[1:06:19] things that they originally, you know, said that they would do. And now they're not doing

[1:06:22] it. And so we've just had to pick up some of those pieces and and the state has had to

[1:06:28] try to do that. And as we so we will continue to work on that. But it's a it's

[1:06:35] unfortunate that we have to be in position. Thank you. >> We know

[1:06:48] >> County Conventions. Yeah. Thank you, Mister Chair. Ramsey County last week hosted

[1:06:53] the convening of several community Collaboratives. Are we back together? Leadership

[1:06:56] staff, 4 participants primarily the executive committees of the

[1:07:01] Collaborative's. That includes the Saint Paul Children's Mental Health, Collaborative

[1:07:04] the suburban Ramsey family, clever and the Saint Paul Children's Collaborative the

[1:07:09] Collaborative's just as a reminder for everyone, their joint powers organizations

[1:07:12] that bring together County government school community organizations and service

[1:07:21] providers to coordinate efforts to improve outcomes for children, youth and

[1:07:23] families. And Ramsey County. And so by working collaboratively systems and

[1:07:28] sectors, these organizations and online resources, strengthen partnerships and

[1:07:33] address the community's complex needs in a more connected, an effective way.

[1:07:37] And so I'm thankful for county staff and also commissioners who participate on these joint

[1:07:46] powers boards of these organizations. The commuting created an opportunity to

[1:07:48] strengthen relationships and share some updates and better understand each other's work.

[1:07:53] One of the greatest benefits of the gathering was simply just having some dedicated

[1:07:57] time. Each collaborative was able to share some similar things about how they work and

[1:08:03] sort of what their priorities community with their the - resources. And so looking

[1:08:09] forward to additional conversations they can meanings to meeting certainly

[1:08:15] reinforce value o partnership. And so I want to planning manager Dillon whose

[1:08:22] serving as in our community relations manager role in the county manager's office

[1:08:27] helping to support both stronger, internal and external coordination when it

[1:08:31] comes to our collaborative work. that wasn't a good event. Last week. In addition,

[1:08:37] I'm sure we're going to share more about this in the next coming days. By know, people's

[1:08:39] calendars get busy so I thought the earlier the better. So I'm going to show

[1:08:43] us a little early that we are just on the brink of train Union Depot. So it is

[1:08:49] Saturday, June 6 and Sunday, June 7th and it is free. It's a family celebration

[1:08:57] celebrating trains, transportation and downtown Saint Paul community. But it

[1:09:02] also is the 100th anniversary of Union Depot. Also, think it's an extra special train

[1:09:07] days since the opening in 1926. people are served as a gateway to say Paul and our

[1:09:14] region connecting generations of travelers, workers, immigrants and families

[1:09:18] through rail transportation at its peak. Hundreds of trains move through the station every

[1:09:24] day, making it one of the most important transportation hubs in the Midwest. And today it

[1:09:29] is a beautifully historically restored depot serves as a gathering place. It's also

[1:09:35] some low, great local businesses and has a lot of great events and so trained

[1:09:39] days will feature tours. Both modern and historic locomotive interactive exhibit. there's

[1:09:47] so many things will wait for another week 2 to share more about all that. But there's a

[1:09:51] music festival as well. But everything is free and charges that people might want to get

[1:09:55] that first weekend in June on your calendars. Thank >> Sideboard

[1:10:04] >> committee reports. Want to be in check. >> Start thank you, Mr. Chair.

[1:10:12] lot of stuff going on in the Rams kind of like a local government, collective Action

[1:10:18] Workgroup which is focusing salting chloride reduction. I had heard from them pollution

[1:10:24] control agency are and what their what their methods are and this is one of those

[1:10:27] topics that I've been talking about in that really grateful that our collective action

[1:10:33] team has has brought forward. And of course, now we're not winter anymore with the salt,

[1:10:40] but just to get that education out, there always a good thing also goodness say that my

[1:10:47] colleague may talk about the Ramsay, Washington, recycling Energy Facility and Finance

[1:10:52] Committee met and I can commissioner Miller will be talking about that also asked

[1:11:02] our couple of my colleagues here, but the race, our punter alliance had their community

[1:11:04] in Bloom event. This is such fun work they meet at there's an intersection where 3 3

[1:11:13] districts from the from these 3 cities. >> And 3 commissioner

[1:11:18] districts meet at Maplewood Saint Paul and Roosevelt and they continue to have great

[1:11:22] events that really highlight that area bring really positive activities there. And

[1:11:25] it was really a great, great event. Lots of community support there. And that's a

[1:11:34] committee members that that that are present there and in celebration of mental Health

[1:11:42] awareness month and partnerships with Ramsey County, right side printer.

[1:11:47] They included a lot activities there yet that really help without those with that issue.

[1:11:53] just kudos to them. Also. A new Brighton had their spring clean up days. kudos to the

[1:11:58] communities for all there. All the great work. Also mention that AMC had their legislative

[1:12:06] update yesterday and just encouraged and people to listen to that. It was really

[1:12:11] interesting to hear all the different topic areas that reported back on what what

[1:12:15] happened and didn't happen at the legislative session this year as I said, our

[1:12:22] legislative team is going to continue to meet. We're starting right up with a

[1:12:28] debrief of the session and also how we're going to move forward in the coming years.

[1:12:33] So looking forward to that. I also attended our National Association of counties Board

[1:12:39] of directors where we. Talked about our federal policy agenda. You know, so much of

[1:12:45] what our National Association does lobby at the federal level for the things that we

[1:12:48] need and we really appreciate their work and issues such as snap Medicaid. so they were we

[1:12:55] got updates on that We talked about membership and the benefits of of the National

[1:13:01] Association to membership. And they haven't. We are counties campaign. So I encourage all

[1:13:05] of you to go on the website and maybe at one important thing. We can show some of the

[1:13:10] videos that they're putting about putting out about what counties do because we all

[1:13:14] know that that we do a lot and the public doesn't always understand you know, know

[1:13:21] that. And so we can help get that word out in there. Helping put out a lot of

[1:13:25] information. And with news letters, videos and things didn't really help us all.

[1:13:30] Tell our story. And what we really do for the community. There's also a lot of focus

[1:13:36] disasters with our fires, floods and of course, it was it was a lot of similarities

[1:13:43] with what we've dealt with in their metro surge. So just learning things such as how

[1:13:51] oftentimes wants to move faster than our counties can move want to do things. And so

[1:13:54] it just interesting to find those similarities in my and colleagues around the country

[1:14:00] that as they're dealing with fires, floods and other disasters. But the community

[1:14:05] wanting work done much faster. It was it bringing back all the issues that we have with

[1:14:11] our communities wanted to move faster and how we really navigate all that. And I think

[1:14:15] it was just a great, great learning experience to share information about about that.

[1:14:23] And so with that Mr Chair, I just overall that we're going to talk about this. But

[1:14:30] Memorial Day is coming up this week. And so just want to acknowledge all the you know,

[1:14:35] all the great work that all of our people have done and and and memoriam for them for the

[1:14:46] and then celebrating Memorial Day this Monday. Thank you. Commission is saying.

[1:14:51] >> Yes, I just want to see eye and county manager back and we're honored enough to go to

[1:14:57] the Ramsey County Law Enforcement Memorial ceremony last week for Anti County

[1:15:03] Sheriff's Office and our local public safety and police departments and their

[1:15:07] families. And just 2, always remember the folks who have given the alters ultimate

[1:15:13] sacrifice in service, a safety of our communities and those public safety and law

[1:15:18] enforcement officers sheriff's department who do that every day and their families to

[1:15:21] stand behind them. So and so a good reminder of that work that's being done every day.

[1:15:28] Also May is mental Health Awareness Month. Those activities continue. I and my

[1:15:36] colleague commission report you are able to tour the Ritz Wellness Center in Saint Paul.

[1:15:40] And in truly a community based and community response meeting people where they're at. And

[1:15:46] so when we talked earlier about how there's there's, there's no one size fits all

[1:15:50] and being able to realize what we can do as a county with community do can do and how we

[1:15:54] can partner in those activities. I was able to go to the NAMI screening

[1:16:03] Minneapolis last night at a packed 350 plus sold out screening of the film. The

[1:16:10] documentary No One cares about crazy people. And that evocative title intentionally.

[1:16:16] It came from the Twitter exchange between Scott Walker and a colleague in talking

[1:16:23] about closing a facility with an offhand comment. Well, nobody cares about crazy

[1:16:28] people. What we know a lot of people who care about people who are living with mental

[1:16:32] illness and it was a packed hall last night and I was honored. The was hosted

[1:16:40] co-hosted by NAMI, Minnesota in on the Ramsey County. I will say that as a parent the

[1:16:47] the advocates individuals living with mental illness and people who are advocating

[1:16:51] alongside them as family members are some fierce advocates and it was wonderful

[1:16:57] to see them be able to do this educational piece in community last night. also to bring that

[1:17:04] home Chance to to touch base with a constituent and elder Eileen, who lives in my

[1:17:09] district, who has been? Standing strong by her through the trauma when his mental

[1:17:17] illness was not being treated, but also in his recovery and decades of recovery in and out

[1:17:23] of our different direct care and treatment facilities and and and wonderful. She rminds

[1:17:28] us when when somebody in your family has cancer, you send a hot dish. But when somebody

[1:17:33] has a mental illness, you walk away and to make sure that we continue to break that cycle

[1:17:40] to surround anybody who has having a health crisis and any shape or form. So I also want

[1:17:46] to say that while being in community listening and learning and all those things

[1:17:50] and standing with our constituents is important. They sent us here to do some

[1:17:53] systems transformation, work. And so just to say that I am very encouraged, county

[1:18:04] Sheriffs Association by folks who are in county attorneys attorneys associations and

[1:18:08] also within different county commissioners, all who have been doing work in and around

[1:18:16] the The rule 20's, the 48 hour rule. Some of that fire priority admissions work and

[1:18:21] the direct care and treatment who continue to say we're not going to just look admired the

[1:18:29] problem. What can we be doing to to truly meet the moment and the needs of our

[1:18:33] community? So that work continues. It's a big part of what I'm doing and we're not

[1:18:36] here. >> I also want to say that I've had a chance Esco Saint

[1:18:41] Paul goes Ramsey County, the as we know and are building stronger together that making

[1:18:45] sure that we have vibrant downtown is truly important to have the chance to. He was

[1:18:50] some organizations this last week with the Saint Paul tourism celebration. The

[1:18:53] landmark center's annual meeting and then the ORD ways Acerca thanks to constituent

[1:19:00] invited me to go and and I will just it's wonderful to see that there are ways for

[1:19:09] people to visit Saint Paul for all ages and all different price points in all different

[1:19:15] ways. And I hope people will enjoy the summer down downtown. I was able to the

[1:19:22] with colleagues and constituents on the Capitol Lawn on her story, driving for

[1:19:27] a quality tour in support of the R a I cannot believe we are still having this

[1:19:33] conversation but now important as ever. And then just a shout out to all of our Ramsey

[1:19:40] County outreach staff, whether that's in parks and record public health or mental

[1:19:45] health, environmental outreach, all the different things. I was at the serving

[1:19:48] water Safety day at Arden Hills, Touch a truck and at the race, the race Allar

[1:19:54] punter Alliance Bloom and Man, are they out there with smiles on engaging with community and

[1:19:59] and explaining what it is that the county does every day. So thank you all for it for doing

[1:20:03] that. I just want to say even though the wrestler up under alliance was at McCarren Park,

[1:20:10] not my current district, where right around the corner from where I raised my kids so I

[1:20:14] could not resist being on my old stomping grounds again. Thank you. I song.

[1:20:22] >> Thank you, Mr. you know, similar the collaborative update. I'm County manager

[1:20:30] backer, thank you so much for convening the 3 collaborative. My biggest takeaway you

[1:20:35] there's just a lot notes, shared interest and desire best serve the needs of the

[1:20:42] families who are in Ramsey County. And I'm just so proud of the work they collaborative

[1:20:51] has done. Also, we actually met just before that convening and we we took action to set

[1:20:58] aside about $50,000 to be able to best serve family's needs and moments of crisis where

[1:21:07] systems had not support them. And this is you know, as a result of Oeration Metro

[1:21:14] Surge is it has just really force us to be more responsive because the current way of how

[1:21:22] we are doing things granting out every 2 years, you know where we're still trying to

[1:21:30] families, current and also know you know, Operation Metro Surge has had those compound.

[1:21:37] effects on and children. Who need the most support. So I the committee we established

[1:21:45] that's committee too continue to discuss review guidelines on how that funding they

[1:21:52] become available to our current partners. Thank you. >> Mission in my Thank you,

[1:22:02] Mr. Chair. >> couple of things I wanted to know the Commissioner Ponce

[1:22:07] mentioned our visit to routes wellness last week, a great opportunity to tour their

[1:22:13] facility and learn more about not only the services that they offer above what they

[1:22:16] hope to do with that specific space and providing services to folks in the community

[1:22:21] specifically around mental. Well, I also had a chance to speak at the Arbor month. Tree

[1:22:29] planning Pierce Butler, tree Canopy Improvement Poject at Park this past A great

[1:22:38] collaboration between Ramsey County, the city of Paul's parking parks, rec as well as

[1:22:44] a number of community organizations, including Human Nature Fall Town, Green and

[1:22:50] the B line. And it was just amazing opportunity to get with community and to showcase

[1:22:56] the importance of environmental In what we're doing here is identifying some

[1:22:59] of our more climate vulnerable communities and addressing the environmental when honestly

[1:23:10] that the public health impact of not having the level of Saved from from trees that

[1:23:15] that we know that other neighborhoods and our community has done so great to

[1:23:18] be a part of that event. Also this week and I had blitz of community events that were

[1:23:28] happening, front avenue community called the Rice longer Alliance Community in

[1:23:31] Bloom, the Mighty Midway Festival and the Falcon Heights spring together

[1:23:37] events. I went to all 4 Saturday. it blast. then yesterday we had a chance to

[1:23:45] meet with the snow and University lines. The working group as they prepare for the

[1:23:50] next phase of what group will become senator out economic development of 4 that

[1:23:58] corridor. One interesting thing that we learned in that meeting kind turnout as we

[1:24:04] think through next steps is one of them treating a business improvement district

[1:24:08] for Snelling Avenue to really spur economic growth around that. That really key

[1:24:13] corridor. And so it was great to meet with so many different partners to hear their

[1:24:16] perspectives and to really see like momentum growing for the Hammond Mdway neighborhood

[1:24:23] and how this group can be a part of that. And then last night I had a chance to attend

[1:24:27] the interfaith action annual Assembly with Commissioner Miller to learn more about

[1:24:34] just transformational work day in the fray. Factions do across the community and the

[1:24:40] different programs that that they leave up. And so really great. Great evening to

[1:24:45] celebrate their work and then all in with this. You know, it is it's graduation season. And

[1:24:53] we have a graduate on this So huge congratulations to Commissioner Miller for

[1:25:06] >> I think folks don't realize that, you know, on top of having this very full time job

[1:25:11] and raising family was going to get her degree, which kudos to you. Congratulations remain

[1:25:17] an inspiration to all of us on on the stars. And so just want on the for you. So.

[1:25:27] >> Appreciate And I was she has to continue. You know, when commission Ryan Hunt came

[1:25:32] on the board. >> She didn't have be Yeah. And I was teaching to say she

[1:25:38] has. We actually gave are. I was at the cremony and I gave ahead diploma she went on to

[1:25:45] get a Ph D. >> I've got some time and there will be a a

[1:26:02] it's they still plan I was quite not as busy as you guys are on Saturday. It says at

[1:26:10] the softball field all day. Yeah. But last week we attended the Metropolitan

[1:26:16] Emergency Services Board fairly routine board meeting. We did approve a few important

[1:26:20] items related to emergency communications and regional coordination.

[1:26:23] >> One was that the full board accepted the 2025 financial audit. There was no issues

[1:26:28] with that. We also approved some updates. Armor participation plans for life

[1:26:33] link 3 in Sherburne County. And so does really impact us but impacts the region. And we

[1:26:38] also approved some funding to support the regional blood program. I brought this up

[1:26:41] date back when we had our executive committee now we just approved it as a full

[1:26:45] board. So I know that they'll be some for blood in Maplewood, which is grace

[1:26:47] that's in our East Metro. And then continuing on and the West Metro and then amendments

[1:26:54] to related to the school, mapping grandson, emergency response coordination. We also

[1:26:57] received some legislation updates excited to hear more after everything pass from

[1:27:03] them on Thursday, 5.14, we had the Washington Ramsey County, Recycling Finance and

[1:27:09] Facilities Committee. This was really routine as well. The main item discussed and

[1:27:14] approved was the proposed 2027 budget recommendations for the R and the board. The

[1:27:19] committee. We review the facilities budget, the program's budget, and then the

[1:27:23] equipment and maintenance and replacement fund are all Em and our budget. We like to

[1:27:28] call it. And at this time, there are no major changes from what was previously

[1:27:32] approved. So passed. But I do want to say one notable update was that the projected tipping

[1:27:38] fee is going to be updated in a set for $159 per ton. And that is what our partners pay

[1:27:46] when they bring the trash to the facility. So it all kind of comes down some way

[1:27:53] >> and then we also, you know, really facilities. Updating continued our conversations

[1:28:00] long-term planning and maintenance and then also operations at the recycling

[1:28:03] and Energy Center. We have an old facility. We want to make sure and they do a great job

[1:28:08] keeping up and tip top shape and ten on Thursday, that same day also have the

[1:28:14] opportunity to present on food, insecurity and Ramsey counties work that we're doing

[1:28:19] with food security at the way for Lake Area Food shelf, their volunteer recognition

[1:28:23] program. So it really was a great opportunity to, you know, like community members

[1:28:28] know our role and how the county's connected into that work. And then I want to thank

[1:28:32] and recognize our list and for his incredible 25 years of service volunteering at the

[1:28:38] White Bear Lake Food Shelf. He's 87 years old. And now finally retiring from

[1:28:44] volunteering So I just want to say, you know, violent, here's like him. They their

[1:28:48] commitment to serving others really truly Last night I was at interfaith Action's annual

[1:28:56] Assembly place right use higher previously. So it's, you know, deep holds a special

[1:28:59] place in my heart. But grateful for the work that they continue to do with that.

[1:29:03] I'm me. Thank you. Yeah, Thank you. Mister >> So I don't know if I

[1:29:13] mentioned this and that I've been away a couple of conference, but I just want to

[1:29:19] elevate the the grand opening of our new van to county government where we had our

[1:29:27] grand opening. previously call Metro Square. And I just think Ramsey County Government

[1:29:33] Center identifies what is happening in that building. Now. But that the space

[1:29:39] transformation of space The project came together very well. And it was encouraging

[1:29:44] to see the investment. In creating a more welcome me and functional environment. 4

[1:29:53] residents come for support and help also for the staff. So for those who do not know the

[1:30:01] Ramsey County Government Center is located at one. 21, the 7 place ease. So if you

[1:30:09] need some support, please come. There is beautiful, warm welcome space that really

[1:30:17] shows individuals when they come into space that we are here to help you respect you

[1:30:20] and your value. And I think that is important when people are showing up in their words,

[1:30:26] moment lives, you have a place that feels like that's going to have to enhanced lie. So

[1:30:31] very happy to see space. Really beautiful Good job county.

[1:30:39] >> The just echo that. I will anything 90. He was trying to get some people done for m 97

[1:30:49] year-old mom, And he was impressed and he's not. He's a hard guy to But to your point,

[1:30:55] he just something >> Very one >> Wade decision from what

[1:31:05] he's used to can see him. He sort of fun. the heavy lifting with my mom in terms of the

[1:31:10] medical on on that. So actually cut. >> ages 7 through May 11. It

[1:31:20] ended the the national Organization of Black Cunty Officials, Economic

[1:31:26] Development Conference call not Call the conference, provides important discussion

[1:31:31] and collaboration around. I'm not be to resolve. It cannot make development workforce,

[1:31:36] innovation and county level solution that supports strong and resilient community. And

[1:31:43] there's still a need organizations like this right. And I can say that being like

[1:31:49] one 3 African-Americans. a county commissioner where we have 447 county commissioners

[1:31:59] and things are impacting our lives in our community are. Sometime this need to be

[1:32:04] elevated and talked about in a different way in a different perspective that we can bring

[1:32:08] it into these conversations in spaces. So but it was just really good to be at a

[1:32:13] national organization to hear, you know, really some common themes that is happening no

[1:32:19] matter where you are. That is happening. You know, I know we have a government that wants

[1:32:24] to be color blind don't want to see color. But what is happening in the self is

[1:32:30] horrendous. And what they are doing at tis moment elections. And I mean, there

[1:32:38] was some 7 states that may have one like to elected official. And they don't even

[1:32:47] want to see that one. But that, you know, so for Supreme Court to bring for us a ruling

[1:32:53] that says that you can not 8, a space where you being more inclusive of diverse

[1:33:02] communities. But you can gerrymandering have just felt right? just mind bowing. Set.

[1:33:13] We are seeing myself back in the struggles from the 60's. representation did not matter.

[1:33:19] Representation does matter. It absolutely matter. And we are seeing it playing out in big

[1:33:29] numbers. And I know I love the fact that we're partisan, but this is life. This is real

[1:33:34] life. This is not about politics. This is about life and representation in been a

[1:33:38] bit to have opportunity. 2. Be considered. The slight have just the equal may find So

[1:33:49] just to be equally seen into to be seen that way. Well, you what's happening south is just

[1:33:54] horrendous. You know, we are definitely back into this whole fight over in around.

[1:34:01] your voice and your vote would go into next. Take the weight from from women and say when

[1:34:04] matter no more. I will go on any more about figure out like that. On May 14, my office was

[1:34:18] able to attend the foundation. dedication ceremony at McAllister College for the

[1:34:23] College New resident Hall and Welcome Center project. They even had lied at McAllister

[1:34:29] continue investment and sustainability student housing in community center campus

[1:34:35] improvement, including the innovative geothermal energy system with office has been

[1:34:40] supporting. It is great to see that they with a view to get some support for that college.

[1:34:46] Long time to calm the goals. So cool to McAllister college worked this league and moving

[1:34:52] us forward. Just yesterday I able to 18 a lunch and learn hosted by the YWCA Saint Paul

[1:35:00] that focus on their new velocity program. Te session provide insight into how the

[1:35:06] program is working to support individual 2 more technology. so they'll bring some 21st

[1:35:14] century technology into that space where, you know, you But so many individuals who cannot

[1:35:22] afford to do something to simply take a driving test because it causes a cost

[1:35:25] associated with that. providing this service free where they don't have actual

[1:35:32] simulations, a simulator there. Well, yu can sit and take the test and prepare for

[1:35:39] that. Just some all some forward thinking work happening under the leadership

[1:35:44] Ashley Booker, who's executive director the YWCA. S they to learn more about the

[1:35:50] organization, vision in the community impact. And it's just really looking for

[1:35:52] partners in the work that they do. And I think that's going to be really important as we

[1:35:56] move forward into 2027 in the lack of support that we're going that's going to be

[1:36:01] coming down from the federal government that's going impact the state is going to impact

[1:36:04] that county government that we're going to really have to look at how we do our work and

[1:36:10] be a very innovative and creative what that looks like with other partners, whether

[1:36:14] that is, you know, our state partners, our community, based organization partner the

[1:36:20] philanthropic community. The business sector. It's going to be like all hands on deck and

[1:36:25] we all need to trying to figure out how we're going to do what we need to do with

[1:36:30] less funds in higher demands they would be higher demand. And s I do want to speak of

[1:36:44] this, but I feel like ISIS have to. Why have this moment to talk about legislative for

[1:36:49] work? You know, AMC has And Ramsey County did some really good work advocating fr

[1:36:55] things that we need to move our county and our state forward. You know, it's

[1:37:01] unfortunate we were not able to get the support that And it's for around the park with

[1:37:08] it. But, yu kow, is only on the amount of dollars stands on. High demand is coming from

[1:37:17] everywhere. And I think it's a really time for us to just sit back and reflect and think

[1:37:21] about how we prepare and going in 27 in do the work that we need to do around

[1:37:27] African-American Family Preservation Act. AMC, Ramsey County. Some also words to

[1:37:35] really do some acts. And I think we pretty much get much of what acts to happen. You

[1:37:44] know what? The one thing that did not happen at the legislature, that was was too

[1:37:48] move the case reviews from the counties to the state. And let me just say this. No one gets

[1:37:55] everything they want that they didn't want. But I think this is also opportunity for the

[1:38:00] counties to duties. Case reviews and reflect what worked. What didn't work. How

[1:38:07] can we better support the family? And I would not want to see AMC say that case

[1:38:11] reviews don't matter and we're not going to do it. Because group of families and

[1:38:18] community members who've been hurt. That is our face system. They have been families who

[1:38:26] have been removed kids with endured traumas and families who have endured trauma

[1:38:29] disproportionately. And what this law is for those individual, we're just

[1:38:35] pointing out it would have been put into a system disproportionately. You need

[1:38:38] to figure out a new system to get some active efforts and work with. The parents work

[1:38:44] with the relatives with the families to create better. Outcomes. And maybe we can

[1:38:51] look at a system prevention. Also so we can stop the work that we can do here. But

[1:38:59] counties needs to do a self reflection on himself across the state. In a number of

[1:39:04] families African American families who have been disproportionately put into a

[1:39:08] child where if a system and the trauma that has been endured because of that, we do

[1:39:13] not take this lightly. And so my hope is that have to re imagine just system too. We

[1:39:23] have to re. Imagine what that looks like. We need more resource centers in there.

[1:39:29] feel that traffic community right now that is investing. And counties to give them

[1:39:34] dollars to create so resource centers across the state. And we know that 87 counties do

[1:39:41] business 87 different ways and there's no one fix for all. And this is the opportunity

[1:39:48] for counties to reflects. what they need to be doing, how they need to do their work,

[1:39:54] too ensure that we are at. Putting out active efforts for We get the dollars that we

[1:40:01] request it. That not unlimited. It. And so we have to make the best of what we

[1:40:09] have with the dollars that has been given. Based on the formula that is currently the

[1:40:14] news. If the legislation channel where system. So I wanted to test its rest that

[1:40:22] because I'm hearing some rumblings about the case reviews, peas. And the fact we

[1:40:29] need to do the case reviews. Anything needs to be done that. And so I look forward to

[1:40:35] working AMC. There's a lot of work groups that is going on to have going on for the last

[1:40:47] 2 years and people, individuals and families in those been impacted and in

[1:40:52] county were case invested in this and have been very invested in this and the work

[1:40:59] continues As we move forward. So I went in with that that is it for me. Thank you,

[1:41:06] Commissioner. I just looking to make a comment. Minnesota landmark annual meeting.

[1:41:18] >> very well attended. It's usually community members and go

[1:41:25] >> Was so very supportive of a landmark. They will be a luncheon for the border

[1:41:30] >> Of the victims land mines and the Board commissioners to come together and so to a new

[1:41:34] review. >> Wolverine forward right after this meeting will have

[1:41:43] the >> the regional railroad that already we will pause just for

[1:41:49] a minute 2 because says doing some technical love. Phase II name new system. And then

[1:42:01] right after regional have a >> close meeting. >> Chaired by myself on the

[1:42:11] Benjamin Hill versus Thomas. Let make. And then at one, 30 Commissioner Mike Moultrie.

[1:42:21] We'll do a wheelchair. The workshop and the Association of Minnesota counties and

[1:42:24] state. We are a journey

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