Agenda
[3:08]
Call to Order
[3:09]
Land Acknowledgement
[3:09]
Declarations of Pecuniary Interest under the “Municipal Conflict of Interest Act”
[3:13]
Presentations
[3:14]
Delegations
[3:21]
Nick Desclouds, CUPE Local 5191
[11:55]
Regular Agenda
[11:56]
Strategic Priority - Equitable Services and Opportunities
[11:57]
CSD-CHS-24-006, Creating Culturally Responsive Child Care at 30 Christopher Drive
[1:28:24]
CSD-CHS-24-004, Canada-Wide Early Learning and Child Care (CWELCC) Directed Growth Update
[1:40:38]
Strategic Priority - Homes for All
[1:40:39]
CSD-HOU-24-020, 2024 Point in Time Count Preliminary Overview
[1:53:40]
CSD-HOU-24-021, Waterloo Region Housing Revitalization Plan Update
[2:36:15]
Information/Correspondence
[2:36:15]
Council/Committee Tracking List
[2:36:24]
Other Business
[2:36:26]
Next Meeting - January 14, 2025
[2:36:33]
Adjourn
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[0:36]
It is still Good morning. Good morning. I'd like to
[0:44]
call this Community and Health Services committee meeting to order
[0:49]
today. We're going to be discussing the creation of culturally
[0:52]
responsive childcare in partnership with the Healing of Seven Generations.
[0:57]
We're going to have an update on the Canada wide
[0:59]
early learning and childcare directed growth and a preliminary overview
[1:04]
of the 2024 point in time count. And finally, an
[1:07]
update on Waterloo regional housing revitalization plan. And the plan,
[1:12]
committee, and for those who are in the audience, is
[1:15]
to Deal with the delegation under 5.1 from CUPE local
[1:20]
5191 and then we'll Also deal with item number
[1:24]
6.1, the strategy On equitable services and opportunities related to
[1:29]
30 Christopher and then, with committee's permission, we'll break for
[1:33]
lunch and after lunch, resume with the rest of the
[1:36]
agenda Beginning At 6.2, If that's in agreement with everyone.
[1:45]
To begin This meeting, we're again reminded that many of
[1:48]
our homes and places of employment in Waterloo region are
[1:51]
situated on the land that is the traditional territory of
[1:55]
the Haudenosaunee, Anishinaabe, and Chonnonton Peoples. We recognize and
[2:00]
deeply appreciate their historic connection to Waterloo Region and also
[2:05]
recognize the contributions Indigenous peoples have made in shaping and
[2:09]
strength in this community. We are grateful for the opportunity
[2:12]
to live and work here and reaffirm our collective commitment
[2:16]
to keep the promise that reconciliation takes Place through learning
[2:20]
and community building with the Indigenous people who continue to
[2:23]
live here. We are all treaty people with a responsibility
[2:27]
to honor our relations. And I just realized I forgot
[2:31]
To ask for a roll call, which I will now
[2:33]
ask Julie Hale to do. Thank you Chair. Regional Chair
[2:37]
Redman. Present. Councillor Craig. Present. Councillor Deutschmann. Chair Erb. Here. Councillor
[2:42]
Foxton. Present. Councillor Harris. Present. Councillor Huinink. Happy international Day of
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Persons with Disabilities. Here. Councillor James. Present. Councillor Liggett. Present.
[2:53]
Councillor McCabe. Present. Councillor Nowak. Councillor Salonen. Present. Councillor Shantz. Present.
[2:59]
We have regrets from Councillor Vrbanovic. Councillor Williams. Present. And Councillor
[3:04]
Wolf. Present. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any declarations
[3:08]
of pecuniary Interest under the municipal conflict of interest act.
[3:13]
Seeing There are none. We have no presentations. We have
[3:17]
one delegation that has registered, and I'd Like to remind
[3:19]
the delegation of some guidelines For participation. When we're ready,
[3:26]
Please proceed to the podium. Make sure the switch on
[3:29]
the podium is turned on so that we can hear
[3:31]
what you're saying. You have five minutes to speak. If
[3:35]
you conduct yourself in any of the following manners, it
[3:38]
will Result in an immediate removal from the meeting. interrupting
[3:41]
councillors, staff, or other delegations, derogatory statements about councillors, staff
[3:47]
or others, and or any hate speech or defamatory comments.
[3:52]
And one last reminder for the delegation, Please do not
[3:55]
take any offense if following your presentation There are
[3:57]
no questions from Council. This is council's time to really
[4:01]
listen and reflect upon The opinions and ideas shared with
[4:04]
us from our community members. And a quick reminder to
[4:08]
the members of the audience, You're asked to maintain order,
[4:12]
and this means that you are not to address the
[4:14]
committee Without the permission of the chair, Interrupt anyone, Disrupt
[4:18]
the meeting with unreasonable noise or vocal expressions such as
[4:21]
applause, booing or cheering, And the display of signs or
[4:25]
posters. The sweet sound of a baby crying is fine.
[4:31]
So I would invite our registered delegation, Nick Desclouds,
[4:36]
CUPE, to proceed to the podium. Welcome. You have five
[4:41]
minutes. Hello, regional councillors. I'm here today speaking on behalf
[4:48]
of CUPE 5191, The paramedics who respond to 911 emergencies
[4:52]
in your region. I've come to advocate for an issue
[4:54]
that is more prevalent than ever. Wage parity for paramedics.
[4:58]
Paramedicine is evolving quickly. It wasn't too long ago we
[5:06]
were called ambulance drivers. We are now paramedics. And we
[5:09]
worked hard to obtain this title because what we do
[5:12]
outside of the hospitals, in your homes, and en route
[5:15]
to the hospitals, is medicine. Two paramedics can run a
[5:19]
cardiac arrest In your living room with the same protocols
[5:22]
as an emergency department's resuscitation Room, which has. Doctors, nurses,
[5:26]
respiratory therapists. And that's the part of the job we've
[5:29]
been doing for years. What's changed recently is that paramedics
[5:33]
are no longer just a means of rapid transport to
[5:36]
the hospital. We've had a dramatic increase in our scope
[5:38]
of practice with new medications, skills and protocols. We have
[5:43]
community paramedics, palliative care directives, The ability to treat and
[5:47]
discharge patients in their homes. And in 2025, we are
[5:51]
introducing protocols For alternate destinations. All of this extra education
[5:56]
has put an increased expectation and responsibility on paramedics to
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ensure our residents not only receive prompt care, but are
[6:03]
taken to the right destination for the right reasons. And
[6:07]
I can proudly say the paramedics that serve this region
[6:10]
continue to rise to the occasion. But these new complexities
[6:14]
have come without recognizing the fact that we sit far
[6:16]
behind our emergency services counterparts in wage equality. primary care
[6:21]
paramedic hourly wages are 22.5% behind local fire services and
[6:27]
20.8% behind regional police. In addition, due to a
[6:31]
recent arbitration, paramedic wages are now 8% behind ambulance communication
[6:36]
officers, the people that dispatch us to emergency calls. One
[6:40]
of the reasons dispatchers were successful in their arbitration was
[6:43]
because they compared their wage inequality to police and fire
[6:47]
dispatchers. We are happy to see our dispatchers achieve the
[6:50]
wage parity they deserve, but it ignited the conversation between
[6:53]
paramedic unions across Ontario. Why aren't we doing the same?
[6:58]
Paramedics that serve this region are feeling the weight of
[7:01]
this inequality. We see extremely skilled, compassionate, empathetic, and well
[7:06]
educated coworkers leave our profession to become firefighters and police
[7:10]
Officers because the wage is simply better. Parity exists across
[7:14]
police and fire. Why not paramedics? Rectifying this wage
[7:19]
Correction is a significant ask. It should be noted that
[7:22]
paramedic services are 50% funded By the province of Ontario
[7:25]
through the Land Ambulance Service grant So the impact to
[7:28]
each resident is vastly different compared to when one of
[7:30]
our ally agencies makes a monetary request. with the advocacy
[7:35]
from the paramedic services senior leadership team over the past
[7:38]
few years, You, regional Council, are making significant investments into
[7:42]
our service. And for that we are grateful. Thank you.
[7:47]
Thank you for supporting a wellness budget. As a member
[7:49]
of the peer support team, I can confidently tell you
[7:52]
that this initiative has been immensely positive and continues to
[7:55]
improve. Thank you for the service Enhancements following the high
[7:58]
growth Scenario, something we desperately needed over these past years
[8:02]
to assist in managing the rapid pace in which our
[8:04]
call volume and regional population grows. Thank you for increasing
[8:08]
the number of FTEs to support our paramedics and logistics
[8:12]
members so they're eligible for health and welfare benefits. All
[8:17]
of these factors come together to strengthen support For paramedics
[8:21]
and the challenges we navigate within the healthcare system. But
[8:24]
from a paramedic's perspective, there is a piece of these
[8:26]
enhancements that is still missing. Wage parity. councillors, you are
[8:31]
challenged with incredibly complex problems every day and the impact
[8:35]
of the decisions you make Have the potential to make
[8:37]
real change across sectors. I fully appreciate That this ask
[8:41]
has an impact, but showing paramedics that there is an
[8:43]
acknowledgment of wage inequality is a commitment to recognition and
[8:47]
retention. The paramedics that I am fortunate enough to work
[8:51]
alongside are asking you to close this Wage gap. The
[8:54]
work your emergency services do is integral to keeping our
[8:57]
communities safe and supported. We deserve to be valued as
[9:01]
police and fire's equals, because ultimately we have the same
[9:04]
shared responsibility to respond to residents when they need us
[9:07]
most. Thank you again for hearing my presentation. You all
[9:11]
have incredibly challenging jobs that often go without recognition. A
[9:16]
commitment to caring for the well being of this region
[9:18]
and its residents is a goal that I know we
[9:21]
all share. Thank you. You have 30 more seconds.
[9:29]
Thank you very much. I don't see any questions from
[9:34]
councillors. Thank you for being here and for your colleagues.
[9:38]
Excuse me, Councillor Craig. Sorry, Mr. Chair. I'm so slow
[9:42]
today on a few items, but I do appreciate your
[9:45]
commentary. Just to let you know that I got my
[9:48]
ears pinned back about a year ago for referring to
[9:51]
paramedics as ambulance drivers, but I've corrected my ways. When
[9:55]
you look at Your wage request across the province, How
[10:01]
does it equate out? Like, where are you? can you
[10:04]
sort of give me an off the cuff answer on
[10:06]
that? I don't know Off the top of my head,
[10:09]
I know that there are Services across the province that
[10:14]
do have wage parity and have just achieved wage parity
[10:17]
and then there are also services that are kind of
[10:20]
in our area. And as I mentioned in my presentation,
[10:23]
One of the things that really ignited this was when
[10:26]
we saw this arbitration With the ambulance communications officers. as
[10:31]
you can imagine, The 8% above a primary care paramedic
[10:36]
who's actually going to these dangerous environments, unpredictable environments, Has
[10:42]
certainly creates that kind of confusion amongst our paramedics as
[10:46]
to why that gap exists. And then that's what ignited
[10:49]
this conversation as to why aren't we looking at police
[10:52]
and fire. We're all going to the same calls. If
[10:56]
I may, Mr. Chair, just if I make a comment, I
[11:00]
Was that a recent Remembrance Day ceremony With different members
[11:03]
of police were there and paramedics, and I was really
[11:07]
impressed with that The fact that, Not only do you
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serve community, but You're involved in community. And one aspect
[11:16]
I never realized Was the fact that you have individuals
[11:20]
that clean the ambulances each time they come in. I
[11:23]
never even thought about that, In terms of the difficulty
[11:27]
of the job from each perspective. So I want to
[11:30]
thank you for what you do. And just to say
[11:33]
that I'm sensitive to what you're saying, but we have
[11:37]
to look at this, okay. Thank you. Thank you. I
[11:42]
don't see any other questions, so thank you for coming
[11:44]
in, and thank you to your colleagues for keeping our
[11:47]
community healthy and safe. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, we
[11:54]
will move on to item six point one, Creating culturally
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responsive childcare. Mr. Sweeney, do you want to introduce this?
[12:04]
And then we have some Staff presentation. Yes, my pleasure
[12:09]
to introduce this today. Council might remember back in April,
[12:13]
we came with a report Seeking some direction. And you
[12:15]
approved of that direction For staff to go away and
[12:18]
work with community Partners To develop an Indigenous led, Indigenous
[12:23]
focused childcare. And we are here today to present to
[12:27]
you Our collective idea here, so I'm going to turn
[12:30]
it over to my colleague Barb Cardow and a few
[12:33]
members of our community to give a presentation on what
[12:35]
we're proposing. Thank you. Great. Thank you very much. So
[12:41]
I'm Barb Cardow, and I'm the director of children services,
[12:43]
and I just Wanted to share with you that I've
[12:46]
been in this role for seven years, and shortly After
[12:49]
I came into this role, I met Donna Dubie, the
[12:52]
executive director at Healing of Seven Generations. And Donna
[12:58]
shared with me at that time her long standing dream
[13:01]
to create an affordable childcare Program Where Indigenous children and
[13:06]
families could access holistic, accessible, and culturally responsive childcare. And
[13:14]
Where children and staff could once again experience a sense
[13:17]
of belonging in the richness of their culture. It was
[13:21]
a conversation that Donna had had for 15 years with
[13:24]
my predecessors before me. When CWELLC or the Canada wide
[13:29]
Early Learning and childcare program was announced And the opportunity
[13:34]
to access funding to support the creation of new, affordable
[13:38]
childcare, We saw an opportunity, a way to support the
[13:41]
creation of Indigenous led childcare. Paulo Whitlow and Stephanie Bryenton
[13:47]
from the REDI team supported us in beginning an intensive
[13:51]
process to engage with Indigenous community partners and members of
[13:55]
the community. I would like to introduce you to Amber
[13:58]
Robertson, who is our planning associate in children's services, and
[14:02]
she has led the children services division in this important
[14:07]
work. And Amber is going to just provide a quick
[14:09]
overview of what the process Has looked like that led
[14:13]
us to where we are today. Thank you. With the
[14:21]
help of Paula and Stephanie, who are here with
[14:23]
us today, children's services Engaged In a multitude of consultations
[14:28]
with Indigenous organizations And individuals to understand the needs of
[14:33]
children who are First Nation, Inuit, and Metis in our community.
[14:38]
You can move a couple of slides.
[14:40]
So in April of this year,
[14:50]
We received Council approval to look into our two children's
[14:53]
facilities at 104 Sterling and at 30 Christopher Drive, and
[14:57]
we were acutely aware of the lack of appropriate, safe
[15:00]
and high quality space that's available in our community. And
[15:06]
the Healing of the Seven Generations through our consultations, came
[15:09]
forward and expressed interest in creating the Waterloo region's first
[15:14]
Indigenous led childcare center. From there, Renata and Donna and
[15:19]
their team and their board began to bring this long
[15:21]
standing dream to life. And the next slide provides some
[15:26]
details about the program. But in the interest of giving
[15:29]
our community partners some more time We'll just flash the
[15:32]
slide, and they'll tell you a little bit more about
[15:33]
their program Themselves.
[15:46]
Next slide, please. Thank you. So this is what brings
[15:51]
us here today. So we are seeking approval to enter
[15:55]
into a lease agreement for 30 Christopher Drive With the
[15:59]
Healing of Seven Generations. Indigenous led childcare will bring tremendous
[16:05]
benefits to our community. And demonstrate the region's commitment to
[16:10]
the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's calls to action. Specifically, I
[16:15]
quote, The Truth and Reconciliation Commission calls on all levels
[16:20]
of government to develop culturally early childhood education programs for
[16:25]
Indigenous families. Over the years since I first met Donna,
[16:30]
I've thought a lot about her dream and how children's
[16:33]
services could actually support it. While the Canada wide program
[16:38]
has provided the opportunity with new funding and our vacant
[16:42]
former children's center at Christopher on 30 Christopher Drive
[16:46]
has provided the quality Of space that an Indigenous program
[16:50]
deserves. And now it gives me great pleasure to invite
[16:54]
Donna Dubie And Renata Richards from the Healing of Seven
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Generations to address council and acknowledge the sacredness Of this
[17:02]
work and the plan to open the first Indigenous led
[17:06]
childcare in Waterloo region. Sego.
[17:19]
I'm honored to be here today. Excuse me for interrupting.
[17:21]
I'm wondering if you, There. Thank you. Thank
[17:24]
you. Some of you may know me. Some of you
[17:29]
have not had the opportunity to meet me yet. But
[17:36]
I'm going to kind of tweak things up a little
[17:37]
bit For us in the next few moments. What I
[17:41]
would like to do is have a smudge with everybody.
[17:45]
And the smudge is just to bring our minds together to
[17:50]
have good thoughts about This daycare center for our children
[17:54]
to move forward. I'm going to gift each person with
[17:57]
a tobacco tie and a tobacco tie, When you're gifted
[18:01]
with a tobacco tie, It's kind of like a contract
[18:04]
Between those two individuals. But what this tobacco tie is
[18:09]
to say, thank you for listening to us Today. So
[18:14]
what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask
[18:17]
my knowledge keeper Kelly Curley to light up the smudge
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and we'll go around and smudge Everybody. And I'll be
[18:24]
right behind him gifting you with the tobacco tie. And
[18:27]
then I can come back and share my thoughts with
[18:30]
you when we're done that. Thank You.
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I'll walk around the outside To smudge everyone. If you
[18:49]
don't want to smudge, just hold your hand up. Then
[18:51]
I'll walk past you. Thank you.
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So Kelly Curley is Healing of Seven Generations Knowledge keeper.
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A man with a wealth of knowledge, he could Write
[26:14]
100 different encyclopedias. He's going to do our prayer. Thank
[26:18]
you. Good day, everyone. These are what they call the
[26:26]
words that come before all others. So whenever we have
[26:30]
a gathering we usually do a prayer. Nyawéñha for
[26:34]
this day. Sgénoñ’, Sgénoñ’ we give
[26:37]
thanks, we give thanks for the seven directions, the four
[26:41]
elements, the four seasons, the four colors of man. Sgénoñ’
[26:45]
we give thanks. we give thanks for the four legged
[26:48]
creatures, the two legged creatures, the multi-legged creatures, The legless
[26:52]
creatures, The winged creatures, the feathered creatures, the fish,
[26:57]
and the creatures of the waters. Sgénoñ’
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we give thanks we give thanks for the insects that
[27:03]
crawl, fly or swim. Sgénoñ’ so we give thanks.
[27:06]
We give thanks for the many medicines, the many trees
[27:09]
and grasses that provide us Food, shelter, clothing and
[27:14]
Medicine. Sgénoñ’ So we give thanks. We
[27:17]
give thanks For the insects that crawl, fly or swim.
[27:21]
Segwun des we give thanks. We give thanks for the women,
[27:25]
The carriers of water, the givers of life, the nurturers.
[27:29]
Sgénoñ’ so we give thanks we give thanks
[27:31]
for the children who teach us love, Patience, tolerance, understanding
[27:37]
and acceptance. Sgénoñ’ so we give thanks. We give
[27:40]
thanks For the men, The Horascanagata, who are the protectors and
[27:44]
our providers, the warriors and the peacekeepers. For all the
[27:48]
things you've given us this day, we say Nyawéñha.
[27:50]
Nyawéñha. Segwun des for all the blessings you've given us.
[27:54]
We say in Nyawéñha, Nyawéñha, Sgénoñ’, Sgénoñ’, so at
[27:58]
this time we pray for knowledge of your will for
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us and the power and ability to carry That out,
[28:03]
Donato. Thank you, Kelly. I'm not going to take up
[28:13]
much more of your time. What I do want to
[28:15]
share with you is just a little story. Like Barb
[28:20]
said, I have been dreaming about this for a long
[28:24]
time, and some of you May have known Mary Parker
[28:27]
when she was with the region, but her and I
[28:30]
traveled around and discussed opening up a childcare center way
[28:34]
back then when Mary Parker was here. I think for
[28:38]
me, A revelation, I'm Mohawk Turtle Clan from the territory
[28:45]
of the Grand River. I'm a mother, a wife, a
[28:50]
sister, a grandmother and a community member. I'm Turtle Clan.
[28:55]
And I'm Mohawk. And I think in doing the job
[28:59]
that I've been doing, it's not a job for me.
[29:03]
This is my dream. This is a dream job that
[29:05]
I have. For 25 years In this community Has allowed
[29:12]
me to meet many of you in this room. I
[29:16]
think this year we did our very first Youth camp
[29:23]
For our children. We had 40 children, and we did
[29:26]
it over a period of four weeks. The camp was
[29:30]
free for the children because It was totally a cultural
[29:36]
camp. All the traditions were involved. There was no reason
[29:41]
for me to charge the children To have to pay
[29:44]
for their own culture. But I think on the very
[29:48]
first day, it was quite the eye opener. When I
[29:52]
was informed by my daughter, Renata, I am currently mentoring
[29:58]
her to be the next executive for Healing of Seven
[30:01]
Generations. She took on the role To put together the
[30:06]
culture camp. And on the very first day she called,
[30:11]
she was so upset, I can't do this. And it's
[30:16]
like the kids were, You think about the kids, And
[30:22]
I know right now I can truly say that our
[30:25]
children are really that far removed from their culture. That
[30:33]
these kids came to camp, They were thinking, oh, my
[30:37]
God, Camp. We're going to do canoeing, Maybe three legged
[30:41]
Races, volleyball. And here they were, sitting in a circle.
[30:48]
They had to learn what patience was. They smelt the
[30:52]
medicine, maybe for the first time. They didn't understand what
[30:55]
they were doing there and It was like, well, Little
[31:00]
Bobby Joe over here was not having any of that.
[31:04]
And little Tommy Joe over here, he wasn't having any
[31:07]
of that. And it was a lot to try To
[31:12]
recompose Just for that just short time for the next
[31:17]
day. The next day, some of the elders came in.
[31:22]
We had the children sit down. We talked to them
[31:26]
lovingly, peacefully, Knowledgeably. And they started to listen. And they
[31:33]
were drawn To the drums, they were drawn to The
[31:39]
medicines. We had now smudged again a second day, They
[31:42]
were drawn to that. And over the course of the
[31:47]
next four weeks, We did everything. We did drum birthings.
[31:54]
We did Teachings on the medicine, teachings on the circle,
[31:59]
The medicine wheel. We sang some songs, did language. It
[32:04]
was just specifically culture For these kids. And at the
[32:09]
end, They loved it. The end was their drum birthing,
[32:15]
and they were there and they were there With their
[32:16]
families and they were singing songs and they were drumming
[32:20]
on their drums, and it was such an amazing Thing
[32:24]
to see these children, That it just warmed your heart.
[32:30]
So I know right now After that camp, I believe
[32:37]
that It's my responsibility and the Community's to work with
[32:42]
What I think Is the next 7th generation of children.
[32:48]
Hence the name Healing of the Seven Generations. Healing in
[32:51]
seven generations, The dream of Healing of Seven Generations would
[32:55]
be That in seven generations there would be no need
[32:59]
for healing of seven generations. But at some point we
[33:03]
got to start somewhere. So just the revelation of the
[33:07]
camp Itself Allowed me to truly believe that we are
[33:14]
working with our 7th generation of children. So much was
[33:18]
taken. My father was in the residential school for nine
[33:22]
years of his life. Kept my brothers and I away
[33:26]
from culture. But he brought us up in that residential
[33:31]
school mentality, Even though we didn't go there. So I
[33:37]
know for myself that We can bring culture back, we
[33:44]
can bring our language back, we can bring our ceremonies
[33:47]
back. And when you think about, and Don't get me wrong,
[33:55]
Truth and reconciliation is out there, but it almost seems
[33:58]
like An end game, Like a bullseye. I don't want
[34:06]
it to be a bullseye. Let's have conversation about how
[34:11]
we can move together As community, as neighbours, as people
[34:16]
within the same community who have the same goals for
[34:20]
the best Things in life for our children and our
[34:23]
future. That's what we have for ours to bring our
[34:26]
culture back and take this time right now. It's an
[34:31]
honor If we get 30 Christopher, to be able to
[34:36]
start this. So I want to say thank you, To
[34:39]
all of you, thank you for your time today, and
[34:43]
thank you for any and all of consideration that you
[34:45]
have. So I'm going to introduce my daughter, Renata. Thank
[34:49]
you. Thank you. This is my first time ever in
[34:53]
front of council. Surprisingly, I'm not really nervous, And I
[35:00]
don't really have a script, but I am just here
[35:04]
to say thank you in considering us to take Christopher
[35:08]
and Do our community honor with that daycare. That building
[35:14]
is beautiful. When we toured it, The outside space, I
[35:20]
can just picture it being all natural, Being on the
[35:24]
land, bringing all that back To what was taken from
[35:28]
our children. Like Donna had said, My grandfather spent nine
[35:34]
years in the residential schools, and we didn't grow up
[35:37]
in culture. And when I held that camp last in
[35:40]
the summer, my son went to that camp and we
[35:44]
never talked about culture growing up in our household either.
[35:48]
And he has taken all the stuff that he's learned
[35:52]
at the camp, There's still a lot of learning to
[35:54]
learn, And he reminds me now, oh, we got to
[35:57]
feed our drum, It's the full moon ceremony or we
[35:59]
got to do this, we got to do That. So
[36:01]
if we can have that, starting from little now, we
[36:05]
don't have to worry About our children losing their culture
[36:07]
because it's going to start From infants coming in and
[36:10]
smudging every day and having circle and to be able
[36:13]
to help regulate the children by saying if they would
[36:16]
like to smudge or take a time to be by
[36:18]
themselves and stuff like that. And 30 Christopher is a
[36:23]
beautiful building, and I think that We would really do
[36:28]
it justice by opening up the region's first Indigenous childcare
[36:32]
center and also it's going to be Part family center
[36:36]
with F&CS. I want to have a family visitation room
[36:40]
with that as well. So it's got all kinds of
[36:43]
different things Involved in this whole blanket effect on our
[36:48]
community, to bring them together. And to bring the culture
[36:51]
back to our community and our children that deserve it,
[36:54]
That was taken From the residential schools, so thank you
[36:57]
very much. Thank you so. We have a number of
[37:05]
questions here from Councillors, and I'm not sure if, so
[37:08]
I'll Start with Councillor James, who it's directed to. Councillor
[37:11]
James. thank you, Through you chair Harris, And thank you
[37:16]
For coming in And speaking with us today. My questions
[37:22]
may be for you or staff, But I also want
[37:25]
to say thank you for explaining the culturally responsive piece
[37:29]
and how important that is. I often think that For
[37:35]
a lot of us, we don't recognize how important culture
[37:39]
is and How the work that needs to be done
[37:42]
to ensure that there is no longer erasure and that
[37:45]
young generations coming up know their history, know their culture.
[37:50]
So one of the questions I had was around
[37:53]
that culturally responsive piece in the Indigenous care and maybe
[37:57]
providing a little bit of context to the difference between
[38:02]
Indigenous childcare and Our contemporary westernized childcare. Just some of
[38:07]
the nuance that exists there. I guess, The childcare whole
[38:15]
thing is really new to me, but the way I
[38:18]
can think about Mainstream compared to Indigenous is, I find
[38:25]
that Indigenity is more of a family unit, Where
[38:30]
it's like, instead of it being structured, where you've got
[38:33]
a teacher and you've got a director and a supervisor. Like I'm hoping, I want to have our centre
[38:39]
be aunties and uncles where everybody can come in there
[38:43]
and feel comfortable, and it's almost like it's a big
[38:45]
family, instead of it having to be so structured where
[38:48]
it's like you have Miss Jane And stuff like that.
[38:56]
So it's more of, like, It's like A very family
[38:59]
structure, even though we still have to follow ministry guidelines
[39:02]
for certain things like that. And I think, too, we're
[39:07]
going to have knowledge keepers in there. The language is
[39:11]
going to be spoken. And because we live in a
[39:15]
variety With various different languages. You can see by the
[39:19]
languages just out in your front foyer, all the native
[39:23]
languages, We're going to try and have as much diversity
[39:26]
in there when it comes to language as possible. The
[39:29]
medicine is going to be burning every day, so that
[39:32]
becomes A familiar Scent, A familiar time with them, understanding
[39:38]
when they smell the medicine. there will be drumming in
[39:41]
there and then the singing of the songs in various
[39:44]
different languages again. And the food. We're going to have
[39:49]
somebody that's going to come in that will cook a
[39:51]
balance Of, all nutritional food, But Indigenous food as well,
[39:58]
so They're introduced to Indigenous food as they go along,
[40:02]
so that when they come to a community feast, and
[40:05]
they might see some wild salmon there, that they would
[40:08]
know what it was or wild rice, Wild rice and
[40:13]
blueberries. It's so awesome. So bringing all these things Culturally
[40:21]
And We are also Talking to Cambridge Fire, Because what
[40:27]
else is important for us is to have A fire
[40:31]
pit outside. Because there's various different ceremonies throughout the year.
[40:37]
We have our condolence ceremonies That would need a sacred
[40:42]
fire. So all these components Would be involved With the
[40:50]
childcare center. That we are calling Ga'nigqhi:yo, which means carry
[40:56]
the peace. Excellent. And I just have one Other follow
[40:59]
up chair. I'm very mindful of what you said about
[41:03]
the truth and reconciliation and everyone gets stuck on those
[41:06]
94 calls to action, and then it becomes a checkmark
[41:08]
to see when we can get them all done and
[41:10]
it takes away from the actual intention that it's continuous
[41:13]
And ongoing. But I do have a question just related
[41:17]
to the three that Were identified. I think it's number
[41:21]
three, five and twelve and What that represents In terms
[41:26]
of the calls to action, just to connect it, because
[41:30]
we say we're doing this work, but sometimes we do
[41:32]
need to say, okay, how is this connecting to those
[41:35]
actions? I think when you look at Three, five, and
[41:40]
twelve, Whatever community that you're working with, It's about building
[41:46]
relationships. It's about having conversation. And it's about moving forward
[41:52]
together. Whatever community is going to have a different relationship
[42:00]
Within that specific community. And I found that in the
[42:04]
region of Waterloo, I have a good rapport With some
[42:11]
of the upper echelon. And I have had no problems.
[42:17]
If I have an idea or have a concern Or
[42:23]
To just reach out and have a conversation. So I
[42:26]
think the whole concept is about continuing The conversations, Continuing
[42:34]
the ideas, And continue to move forward. I hope that
[42:39]
answered your question. Yes, perfectly. Thank you. You're welcome. Paula,
[42:45]
I'm not sure, Did you want to respond to that
[42:47]
as well? Through the chair, since I dressed up for
[42:51]
you all today, The biggest thing towards reconciliation is that
[42:58]
political will, and obviously it rests here in Waterloo region,
[43:03]
as well as breaking down those systemic barriers. And I've
[43:07]
never felt so much happy energy as I do today,
[43:11]
and it's all about cultural safety And knowing that our
[43:16]
children Will be better cared for for the next generation.
[43:21]
So again now I go to the region. There are
[43:26]
five speakers. And so I'm wondering if we could, with
[43:29]
committee, agree that The questions right now would be directed
[43:36]
towards our guests, and then if there's any questions For
[43:40]
staff, We can do that at the end, if that's
[43:43]
okay. You're next Councillor Huinink. And this is for our guests?
[43:48]
Through the Chair, Yes, I'm wholeheartedly prepared to move the motion. I'm
[43:52]
really excited About that. Thank you, Donna and Renata and
[43:54]
Kelly, for coming today. I've never received tobacco before, so
[43:58]
I'm pretty excited about that. When I think of
[44:02]
this center, I'm imagining an Indigenous hub for little people, which
[44:08]
is such a beautiful thing, and I'm really excited For
[44:13]
the next generation to know that they have a valued
[44:16]
place in our community and not just one place, but
[44:18]
all places. There has been kind of An ask since
[44:23]
we came into office for multigenerational Indigenous hub as well.
[44:29]
And I'm not suggesting that this would be instead of
[44:32]
that or I'm talking additionally, but I'm wondering,
[44:37]
Renata, if you can speak More to, it sounds like
[44:41]
Your vision is wider than a hub for little people, like
[44:44]
you talked about having a family services room as well,
[44:47]
which I think is great. I don't know if you
[44:50]
have other multi generational initiatives in mind. It would be
[44:55]
good to know that and to share that with the
[44:56]
wider community as well. We're going to start small first
[45:01]
and try to see how that goes because right now,
[45:07]
With being partners with, community partners with FNCS, healing, there's
[45:13]
no room. So it just gives families a better place
[45:18]
to come and visit with their children more than the
[45:21]
2 hours or however many hours they get a day.
[45:24]
So I would love to see a bigger broader Hub
[45:30]
Of everything. eventually Once The age out of the daycare,
[45:36]
they have to turn around and go into mainstream school,
[45:38]
so Then They're losing all of everything that, well Hopefully
[45:41]
not losing, but they can't carry On the culture and
[45:45]
stuff that they've learned, because right now we don't have
[45:47]
an Indigenous school, so that's another thing She's trying to
[45:51]
work on, too. It's full circle because she started the
[45:56]
seed. It didn't get planted at the beginning, and I'm
[45:59]
starting to plant the seed now and have great deep
[46:02]
roots. once a wise, beautiful elder told me when I
[46:06]
was telling her about all the beautiful hard work, but
[46:09]
the heart and the dedication with my team and All
[46:14]
that with this daycare thing. She said, Renata, you got
[46:16]
to look at it as You're planting deep roots because
[46:19]
you want this to be successful, because this is our
[46:21]
children Of the future, and I'm like, oh, my God,
[46:24]
Yeah, that makes total sense. So I am planting the
[46:27]
next seed for my mom in honor of healing and
[46:31]
then for our children to move forward in the Future,
[46:34]
and hopefully we can expand And build. I appreciate your
[46:40]
wisdom To start small, literally and figuratively, I think that
[46:43]
I should follow that As well, but I look at
[46:47]
your wider vision, and I really love that. So again, Chair,
[46:52]
I'm willing to move the motion. I'll second it Chair. Next
[47:01]
is Councillor Wolf. Why are people waving hands at me?
[47:10]
Or you're seconding Chantal. Okay. Sorry. Thank you. Okay. Councillor
[47:14]
Wolf. Okay. Through you chair, As the Councillor representing Cambridge,
[47:19]
I'm very proud and happy that you're Coming To Cambridge.
[47:25]
And glad to see that 30 Christopher Avenue will be
[47:28]
once again used for childcare. It's wonderful that you're going
[47:33]
to be providing The cultural responsive childcare. Very much
[47:39]
needed. And my question Is simply, how many children do
[47:43]
you hope to serve at this location? 65 is what
[47:47]
we're going to be licensed, We're asking for licensing for.
[47:52]
Okay. Thank you. Chair Redman. Thank you Chair Erb. Donna I
[47:58]
totally remember Mary Parker, and what I remember about Mary
[48:01]
was that she always smelled like vanilla. Every time I
[48:04]
was with her, I thought, why do I want cookies?
[48:07]
But I also can't Let this opportunity pass without commending
[48:11]
a previous council. And I know I have some colleagues
[48:14]
That are still on this current Council who made The
[48:18]
really tough decision to stop delivering directly delivering childcare, and
[48:22]
we closed down five direct centers. And that was done
[48:26]
with the understanding that we would reinvest that money into
[48:30]
a variety Of supports for the broader community. And this
[48:36]
is evidence of one of those investments, so I'm so
[48:39]
thrilled to see you Here. My question Is, Have you
[48:44]
thought about and Renata It must be really hard trying
[48:47]
to follow your mum, Because she's a hard act to
[48:49]
follow. Have you thought about liaising with other childcare centers?
[48:53]
And I think of Councillor Shantz And I that were
[48:56]
at an Elmira opening of a childcare center About six
[49:00]
weeks or a few months ago. A while ago anyway,
[49:05]
and they had the best Thanksgiving and what they were
[49:08]
talking about Was learning some of the things that Councillor
[49:14]
James was talking about. These kids may be settlers or
[49:18]
Children of settlers, but they need to understand the Indigenous
[49:21]
way forward. And I know Barb Cardow Has her Finger
[49:26]
on the pulse of all things childcare, certainly provincially as
[49:30]
well as nationally. And I know there are other Indigenous
[49:33]
childcare centers, but I would really encourage you as you
[49:36]
start small And grow, Think about how you can bring
[49:39]
along other childcare centers that may not be focused specifically
[49:42]
on Indigenous children because There is A great variety of
[49:48]
people that are willing and happy to take your lead
[49:52]
and continue this education In other child care centers. So
[49:57]
congratulations, and this is a day to celebrate. Thank you.
[50:02]
Councillor Shantz. Thank you. Thank you for being here. You
[50:11]
introduced yourself, and I want to introduce myself. I am
[50:16]
7th generation of the settlers, the Mennonite settlers who first
[50:21]
came to Kitchener Of the Eby family. So We've traveled
[50:29]
a long road In those seven generations. And here we are.
[50:35]
And neither you nor I will be here seven generations
[50:39]
from now, but I share your dream.
[50:50]
And I hope that in seven generations, we no longer
[50:54]
have to have these discussions at this or any other
[50:58]
table. Thank you. Councillor
[51:08]
Salonen. Thanks, Councillor Shantz, for making me have to follow
[51:12]
up from that. I had a technical question. But thank
[51:17]
you very much for being here today and for all
[51:20]
of your efforts behind the scenes With our staff to
[51:22]
making this a reality. I was just wondering, as I
[51:25]
represent the township of Wilmot, I know that we have
[51:28]
many residents who are of Indigenous heritage and would probably
[51:32]
be very interested in the potential to have their kids
[51:35]
enrolled in one of Your spots. How would they go
[51:38]
about doing that? Or am I jumping the gun here?
[51:41]
So we're pairing with the One List with the regional
[51:46]
One List. So we're asking anybody who is interested,
[51:49]
Once we get everything up and running, we're hoping to
[51:51]
have A separate, Can we talk about that? Okay. Sorry.
[51:57]
We're hoping to have a separate Indigenous tab on the
[51:59]
One List where you Can click. And because we will
[52:01]
be The first region official Indigenous daycare We will be
[52:05]
the only one there, so if you click on the
[52:08]
Indigenous led childcare, It'll drop down, and hopefully, if they
[52:11]
can get it, It'll be us apply. And then We
[52:16]
will go from there. Yeah So the One List is
[52:17]
how we're accepting. Fantastic. Thank you very much. I don't
[52:22]
see any other questions. Thank you for your presentation. For
[52:30]
committee, We have a motion here, and it was moved
[52:33]
by Councillor Huinink and seconded By Councillor McCabe. Is there
[52:39]
any other discussion or comments? Chair Redman. Excuse me. I
[52:46]
don't know if this is, I thought this was the
[52:48]
staff questions, so I was Just going to ask staff,
[52:51]
but what will the catchment area be? Will this be
[52:54]
just Indigenous children In Cambridge or will this be region
[52:57]
wide? And I don't know if you've Landed on that
[52:59]
Or if that's something that Barb can answer. Okay,
[53:03]
it's Going to be region wide. Perfect. Thank you. No
[53:07]
problem. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have no questions. I
[53:15]
didn't speak up earlier, but as the mayor of Cambridge,
[53:18]
I've got to say that I am absolutely thrilled that
[53:21]
this is coming Into my community and that it's going
[53:25]
to provide for 65 spaces For the Indigenous children and
[53:32]
It's been, I can't even say it's been a long
[53:34]
time coming Because it was never thought of before. So
[53:38]
I'm thrilled that our community is going to be the
[53:40]
host city for this, and I hope that there's more
[53:42]
coming in the future. Us too. So we have a
[53:50]
motion on the floor. I would ask you to use
[53:52]
your eScribe Buttons to indicate to your support.
[54:08]
And that is carried unanimously. Thank you. Thank you.
[54:18]
And all Travel safe and enjoy the sunshine today. I
[54:23]
think a history lesson from today, maybe particularly for you,
[54:26]
Donna, is that dreams do come true. Maybe takes a
[54:30]
little bit longer than you'd like it to be. And
[54:35]
you've been thanking us, I think we need to thank
[54:38]
you. This feels like it's just a significant part of
[54:43]
the journey towards reconciliation that we're all on it
[54:46]
together. So thank you for being part of it. Thanks
[54:50]
to staff, to Barb, to Paula, for everybody That's made this happen.
[54:56]
And good luck. And keep dreaming. Yeah. Thank you. Thank
[54:59]
you. And I do want to thank all of our
[55:01]
staff who help pitch in in one way or another.
[55:06]
And Paula and Stephanie And Amber and Barb. Oh yeah, Barb.
[55:19]
They've been so awesome. I just want to thank everybody.
[55:23]
So thank you so much. Welcome. Thank you. Thank
[55:28]
you. So we are going to take a recess for
[55:32]
lunch. What, 30 minutes? 25. Don't argue with Julie.
[1:30:09]
We do have quorum, so we're going, in the
[1:30:12]
interest of time, we're Going to reconvene this meeting and
[1:30:14]
begin with item 6.1.2, A Canada wide early learning and
[1:30:20]
childcare Update and call on Mr. Sweeney to introduce this
[1:30:29]
report. Thank you Chair Erb. I'm actually going to quickly
[1:30:33]
pass it over to my colleague, Tyla, Who will walk
[1:30:36]
you through a quick presentation And share Some great things
[1:30:41]
that the team has been doing to do our best
[1:30:43]
to meet the needs of families and children across this
[1:30:46]
community. Tyla, it's all yours. Can you hear me now?
[1:30:51]
There we go. Okay, so Good afternoon. My name is
[1:30:54]
Tyler Fullerton. I am a manager in children services, and
[1:30:57]
I'm here today to provide an update on the new
[1:31:00]
licensed childcare spaces as part of the Canada wide Early
[1:31:03]
Learning and childcare plan, Which we call CWELCC and is
[1:31:06]
otherwise known as $10 a day childcare. Next slide, please.
[1:31:12]
Okay, so as part of CWELCC, the region was allocated
[1:31:15]
3,725 new licensed childcare Spaces to be created by 2026,
[1:31:20]
and we are happy to report that we are on
[1:31:23]
track To meet that target. To date, over 2,200 new
[1:31:28]
spaces have been created in Waterloo Region for children ages
[1:31:31]
zero to five and another 1,400 spaces will be created
[1:31:35]
before the end of 2026. New CWELCC spaces are located
[1:31:40]
in one of the 13 priority areas for childcare growth
[1:31:44]
That were selected because They have low access to licensed
[1:31:47]
childcare and a high proportion of families living with low
[1:31:51]
income. The spaces also prioritize access for families who need
[1:31:55]
affordable childcare the most and who are underserved in the
[1:31:58]
licensed childcare system. Next slide. So we wanted to take
[1:32:03]
the opportunity today to highlight some of the new childcare
[1:32:06]
programs in spaces that have opened in our community and
[1:32:09]
acknowledge the hard work and commitment of our local childcare
[1:32:12]
Operators to growing our childcare system. And so the first
[1:32:16]
program we wanted to highlight was or is Creative Beginnings
[1:32:19]
Early Learning and Childcare who opened their newest location
[1:32:23]
in Elmira in October 2024 with chair Redman and mayor
[1:32:26]
Shantz in attendance. This is a new 72 space nonprofit
[1:32:30]
center serving infants, toddlers and preschoolers, and it is their
[1:32:34]
first standalone site. It's located on land owned by the
[1:32:39]
township of Woolwich in a building that was going to
[1:32:41]
be torn down, but was repurposed for childcare with support
[1:32:46]
of the township. This project was supported with CWELCC startup
[1:32:49]
funding and other provincial and federal funding to support the
[1:32:53]
cost of renovation, First time equipping and supplies and building
[1:32:57]
An expansive, natural playground. Next slide, please. The next project
[1:33:03]
is Brason Montessori Academy, which is a new 63 space
[1:33:06]
center, a for profit center located in Waterloo at Park
[1:33:09]
Minister United Church. It's serving toddlers and preschoolers and is
[1:33:13]
the second child care location for a female entrepreneur from
[1:33:16]
Waterloo Region. The new location is close to a
[1:33:21]
Priority area. It's accessible by public transit and other arterial
[1:33:25]
roads, which make it an ideal location for families. This
[1:33:28]
project was also supported with CWELCC startup funding and like
[1:33:32]
all CWELCC expansions, The location is participating in the childcare
[1:33:35]
subsidy access pilot, which holds at least 30% of spaces
[1:33:39]
for children living with low income. Next slide, please. Licensed
[1:33:45]
home childcare has also experienced significant growth since the start
[1:33:48]
of CWELCC. 576 new licensed home childcare spaces have been
[1:33:52]
created, mostly serving children ages zero to four years, and
[1:33:56]
growth of these spaces is important because home childcare serves
[1:33:59]
families that need nontraditional hours, including overnight care. also
[1:34:06]
includes the language and mentorship program, or LAMP, which allows
[1:34:09]
caregivers who have lower levels of English to provide quality
[1:34:13]
care in their home to children from their language community
[1:34:17]
and LAMP is also partially funded by the region's equity
[1:34:20]
investment fund. Next slide, please. CWELCC growth has also included
[1:34:27]
just over 1,000 before and after school spaces, which are
[1:34:29]
operated by our local school boards and third party childcare
[1:34:32]
operators, and these spaces are co-located in schools that children
[1:34:36]
attend, which allows for a seamless day for children and
[1:34:39]
families with one drop off and one pickup at the
[1:34:42]
school that children are already familiar And comfortable with. Next
[1:34:47]
slide, please. So while the spaces that have been added
[1:34:51]
through CWELCC help address demand for childcare, additional spaces are
[1:34:54]
needed to fully meet Waterloo region's childcare needs, especially as
[1:34:58]
the region continues to grow. demand for licensed childcare Continues
[1:35:04]
to far exceed available spaces in Waterloo Region. Before CWELCC,
[1:35:08]
the waitlist for licensed childcare was Around 5,500 children. It's
[1:35:14]
now well over 10,000 children, with about 6,000 looking for
[1:35:17]
spaces immediately. even with the new CWELCC spaces, we have
[1:35:21]
been allocated only 32% of children ages zero To four
[1:35:25]
years have access to an affordable childcare space. And so
[1:35:28]
children's services has requested an additional 500 spaces from the
[1:35:32]
Ministry of Education to continue To grow and create affordable
[1:35:36]
infant, toddler and preschool spaces for families who need them
[1:35:39]
the most. Next slide, please. In alignment with the provincial
[1:35:44]
auspice requirements, which requires that the region maintain a ratio
[1:35:48]
of 85% not for profit spaces to 15% for profit
[1:35:51]
spaces. The majority of new CWELCC spaces created in waterloo
[1:35:54]
region are not for profit spaces and locally there
[1:35:58]
is strong interest And organizational capacity from not for Profit
[1:36:03]
operators to support the creation of new CWELCC spaces. but
[1:36:07]
not for profit operators have identified barriers to increasing childcare
[1:36:11]
in priority areas, particularly the lack of affordable land and
[1:36:15]
or space that is suitable for high quality childcare. Next
[1:36:19]
slide, please. To help address some of these barriers, Children's
[1:36:22]
services is continuing to work with internal and external partners
[1:36:25]
to identify land and space that can be used for
[1:36:27]
community based, not for profit care. So this has included
[1:36:31]
working with housing services, with economic development and facilities to
[1:36:35]
identify regionally owned lands and buildings and priority neighborhoods that
[1:36:38]
can be used for community Based, not for profit childcare.
[1:36:42]
And this has resulted in some really innovative and exciting
[1:36:45]
projects that we want to highlight today. The first is
[1:36:50]
the inclusion. Next slide, please. So one of the projects
[1:36:54]
we wanted to highlight is the inclusion of a childcare
[1:36:56]
center in the mixed housing project at 1388 Highland Road
[1:37:00]
west in Kitchener on regionally owned lands and so this
[1:37:03]
development is part of the Building Better Futures project. Savic
[1:37:07]
Homes is currently working with a local nonprofit childcare operator
[1:37:11]
to plan for the space. And when it opens, it
[1:37:14]
will serve 88 children in a priority neighborhood. This development
[1:37:19]
provides a purpose built, affordable rental space for an operator
[1:37:22]
who was looking to expand and create new spaces in
[1:37:25]
our community, and it also represents a new way of
[1:37:28]
working together for us With three partner organizations working to
[1:37:31]
create affordable housing and childcare together at the same location
[1:37:35]
and as a model we hoped to replicate again in
[1:37:37]
the future. Next slide, please. Another project that I will
[1:37:42]
only say just very quickly is located on regionally owned
[1:37:46]
lands Is what we heard about today, that Ga'nigqhi:yo Child
[1:37:50]
Family center, which will be the first Indigenous led childcare
[1:37:53]
center in Waterloo region. Next slide, please. Children services is
[1:37:59]
also working with other community partners, including the Waterloo Region
[1:38:02]
District school board and the Waterloo Catholic District School board
[1:38:05]
to identify potential school sites that would accommodate prefabricated modular
[1:38:09]
buildings, Which may accommodate not for profit operators. And so
[1:38:14]
this would allow childcare to be created efficiently And cost
[1:38:18]
effectively in the neighborhoods where children live. Schools are an
[1:38:22]
ideal location for a number of reasons parents prefer to
[1:38:25]
have childcare that's located close to their home and many
[1:38:28]
schools Are located in residential areas with green space for
[1:38:32]
Playgrounds. When childcare is located, is co-located with schools,
[1:38:37]
the schools functions as a community hub from the neighborhood
[1:38:40]
and children can attend a childcare location that they are
[1:38:43]
already familiar and comfortable with. Next slide, please. So currently,
[1:38:49]
the CWELCC plan is fully funded by the province and
[1:38:52]
has no impact to the regional property levy. The operating
[1:38:55]
budget for CWELCC for 2024 with 99 million and of
[1:38:58]
this 8 million Was foreseeable startup funding to support childcare
[1:39:03]
growth. However, this amount of funding available does not fully
[1:39:08]
cover the renovation and startup expenses, and childcare operators must
[1:39:12]
also contribute towards the cost Of expansion. Next slide, please.
[1:39:19]
Access to quality and affordable early layering childcare is necessary
[1:39:22]
for the well being of all children, women's workforce participation,
[1:39:26]
addressing the impacts of poverty, and supporting a robust economy.
[1:39:29]
Children's services remains committed to expanding the local licensed childcare
[1:39:33]
system in an intentional manner that balances the needs of
[1:39:36]
children and families with supporting childcare Operators. Further growth of
[1:39:40]
the childcare sector will ensure that Waterloo region has childcare
[1:39:43]
spaces for families who need affordable, high quality childcare the
[1:39:47]
most. Thank you. Thank you. Councillor
[1:39:56]
Huinink. Thank you Chair. Thank you for your presentation. Very
[1:39:59]
good. The Indigenous Childcare center that you referred to toward
[1:40:05]
the end of your presentation is not the same one
[1:40:07]
that we just. Yes, That is the same one, yes. Okay.
[1:40:09]
Thank you. Just making sure I'm Appropriately informed. Thanks. Are
[1:40:14]
there any other questions? Thank you. It's good to see.
[1:40:22]
No, this is for information only. We don't need
[1:40:26]
a motion. It's good to see The numbers that are
[1:40:31]
increasing. So thank you all for the work that you're
[1:40:33]
doing. Such an important file. Thank you. Thank you so
[1:40:37]
for your time. All right. On to 6.2 homes for
[1:40:47]
all, the point in time count preliminary information. Mr.
[1:40:52]
Sweeney, you're going to introduce this. And this is for
[1:40:56]
information only Again, and recognizing that there's going to be
[1:40:59]
a lot of interest in this, Just to remind committee
[1:41:02]
that Before we get into too much detail today, There's
[1:41:07]
going to be some more details coming back to us
[1:41:09]
in January with what brought us to these numbers. So
[1:41:12]
just keep that in the back of your mind. Mr.
[1:41:14]
Sweeney. Yes. Thank you, Chair Erb, Again, this is just for
[1:41:19]
information. Both Ryan and I are here to answer any
[1:41:22]
questions that you might have. I guess my opening comments
[1:41:25]
is just to clarify Again that This is the preliminary
[1:41:30]
number that we are releasing publicly. This is the aggregate
[1:41:34]
number, and in the new year We will be bringing
[1:41:37]
back further analysis. I've had a number of questions from
[1:41:41]
councillors And from the general public around, Will we See
[1:41:47]
data around How folks have fallen into homelessness, will we
[1:41:52]
see data on Sort of disaggregated on identity and questions
[1:41:57]
like that, and the answer is yes. And so we
[1:42:00]
will be working on that. I guess the other thing
[1:42:02]
to say is that this number Is alarming and not
[1:42:07]
surprising Based on The experience that we've had As staff,
[1:42:14]
as partners, and around this Council, the conversation we've been
[1:42:17]
having around the exponential Growth of homelessness across this community.
[1:42:22]
So as it relates to the work and the approved
[1:42:25]
plan to end chronic homelessness, It's a timely data set and
[1:42:28]
it is just that. It is one data set. It's
[1:42:30]
a very important one, but there are a number of
[1:42:35]
Initiatives that we continue to carry out to ensure that
[1:42:37]
we're providing data informed decisions and solutions for the community.
[1:42:41]
So we'll just open it up for questions for whoever
[1:42:43]
wants to. And again, both Ryan and I are here
[1:42:45]
to answer any questions. Thank you. Councillor James. Thank you.
[1:42:48]
Through you chair Erb, I was shocked but not surprised
[1:42:55]
at the number seeing that come out. What I do
[1:42:59]
want to comment on is the actual survey. So as
[1:43:03]
someone who looks through a lot of data and creation
[1:43:06]
of surveys and all of that, I think This is
[1:43:10]
set up in a way for when you do provide
[1:43:11]
the results, the desegregated data, There will be something to
[1:43:15]
tell from this just based on the question And The
[1:43:21]
information, but I also want to confirm if there was
[1:43:23]
a qualitative piece to this Survey. Was there any opportunities
[1:43:28]
for short answer? With the whys, maybe. Mr. Pettipierre.
[1:43:37]
Thanks for the question, Councillor. And through you chair, no,
[1:43:39]
that the survey that you see is what was presented
[1:43:42]
to the individuals that we worked with. There was no
[1:43:44]
additional component That was recorded or that will be reported
[1:43:48]
back on it, we'll be pulling the information From the
[1:43:50]
survey And the responses provided to those specific questions. Okay,
[1:43:55]
perfect. But overall I do want to say that I
[1:43:59]
like the way this survey was able to ask a
[1:44:01]
variety of questions to help with the desegregated info When
[1:44:04]
you do present that. Thank you. Chair Redman. Sorry, Mr.
[1:44:10]
Sweeney wants to add something to that. sorry chair Redman,
[1:44:13]
before that Councillor James, Just want to also add, in
[1:44:16]
addition to Ryan's comment about this specific survey, is to
[1:44:18]
go back to my earlier comment around this is just
[1:44:21]
one, albeit again, a very important data set, For some
[1:44:25]
of the Richest qualitative data, I would point council back
[1:44:30]
to the key findings report and the lived expertise report
[1:44:33]
around the plan to end chronic homelessness that includes a deep, deep
[1:44:36]
dive that we haven't seen in some time, Just as
[1:44:40]
a further data set as well. Thank you. Chair Redman. Thank
[1:44:45]
you, chair. I was surprised when I was at a
[1:44:50]
recent AMO board meeting that we actually have our numbers
[1:44:53]
out before Other communities. And my understanding is that a
[1:44:57]
PIT count is actually something that's directed by the federal
[1:44:59]
government every couple of years. Yes, this is a federally
[1:45:04]
required piece of work. And I don't know for the
[1:45:07]
first but we're certainly one of the first. Ryan, I
[1:45:09]
would think, I don't know If you know that for
[1:45:11]
a fact, but we are certainly earlier than most. And
[1:45:14]
I guess the only other thing that I would like
[1:45:16]
to underscore and it maybe touches on a little bit
[1:45:19]
what Councillor James was talking about, and my recollection is
[1:45:22]
there Were 40 individuals that went out with these surveys,
[1:45:25]
and I think that that creates a much richer relationship
[1:45:28]
and in better data. Again Really alarming, but not surprising
[1:45:34]
given the projections that had already been part of the
[1:45:38]
data point In the data set for the plan to end
[1:45:40]
chronic homelessness. I don't know if you want to comment
[1:45:43]
on that, but I've always felt that last time and
[1:45:45]
this time gave us a much more accurate and richer
[1:45:49]
experience than maybe just trying to find out who would
[1:45:52]
handle these surveys. Mr. Pettiepierre. Yes thanks for the question,
[1:45:57]
chair Redman, we learn every time we've done one of
[1:46:00]
these and we get better at doing the work and
[1:46:04]
counting. A big part of that effort this year was
[1:46:07]
working with 40 different organizations across this community to really
[1:46:12]
put a push on what we refer to as hidden
[1:46:14]
homeless folks that we may have missed In our regular
[1:46:18]
counting or in previous point in time counts, and we've
[1:46:21]
specifically targeted those groups in various ways through our agency
[1:46:25]
partners this year. So I think what you're seeing
[1:46:27]
is not only is it an alarming number, but it's
[1:46:31]
more robust in how we've gone about doing it and
[1:46:33]
I think as a result of that work, more accurate
[1:46:35]
than maybe it has been in the past. And If I
[1:46:38]
may, I asked that question that the AMO board meeting,
[1:46:41]
because they're looking at how we approach pending elections, which
[1:46:46]
we all know are coming, We may not know when,
[1:46:48]
and had they looked at their point in time data
[1:46:51]
to sort of inform that initiative, and I got a
[1:46:54]
bunch of blank stares, which surprised me and let me
[1:46:57]
know That we were probably the first out of the
[1:46:59]
blocks in sharing this with our community. Councillor Huinink. thank
[1:47:04]
you Chair. Mr. Sweeney, Mr. Pettipierre, thank you so much
[1:47:07]
for the work that you and your team do
[1:47:09]
for us. We know it's very difficult. I'm not surprised
[1:47:18]
by the point in time count, but I am saddened
[1:47:21]
and I was wondering if you could speak to Where
[1:47:24]
does Waterloo Region sit in terms of, like, Is there
[1:47:27]
any per capita data? Are we doing better than other
[1:47:30]
municipalities in terms of Supporting the homeless. Mr. Pettipierre.
[1:47:41]
Thanks for the question, Councillor Huinink. And through you, chair,
[1:47:45]
That's part of what we'll come back with in the
[1:47:47]
new year. As chair Redman referenced, we're one of the
[1:47:50]
first to have our number out there publicly. Several other
[1:47:53]
municipalities conducted at point in time count around the same
[1:47:56]
time. Some have gone after and some are still to
[1:47:59]
come. Once everybody has completed their data, we'll have a
[1:48:02]
better look at how we stack up Comparatively across the
[1:48:06]
province and nationally when it comes to this work. Okay,
[1:48:10]
great. I do want to underscore that I think our
[1:48:12]
valuing lived expertise in this area is unique, and so
[1:48:16]
I'm all for that. I just want us to be
[1:48:18]
the best region in the country. And that Includes supporting
[1:48:21]
the homeless population the best we possibly can. Thanks. Mr.
[1:48:27]
Sweeney. Yes, Through you chair, Thank you. I just want
[1:48:30]
to add to that as well. Chair Redman referenced AMO,
[1:48:33]
so we also know that amo will be coming out
[1:48:36]
in the new year With a provincially focused Research project
[1:48:41]
that will, based on a number of data sets, including
[1:48:47]
Ours, attempt to enumerate The challenge of homelessness across the
[1:48:52]
province, and they are also telling us they will be
[1:48:55]
able to quantify The investment required To both reduce and
[1:49:01]
then finally eliminate homelessness across Ontario. We're told they won't
[1:49:05]
Disaggregate it by community. There will be a rural urban
[1:49:09]
split and potentially an Indigenous split, but it, again, it
[1:49:11]
will go to some other data sets that we will
[1:49:14]
be able to continue to tell this story, to reinforce
[1:49:18]
The importance of the plan And the ongoing commitment to
[1:49:22]
that work. Councillor Shantz. Thank you. My question's partially been
[1:49:30]
answered. And I guess. What I was contemplating Is, Our
[1:49:37]
last PIT count was done in 2021, and we've talked
[1:49:40]
about how much more robust this count has been. So Can
[1:49:45]
you speak any more to the difference In the quantum
[1:49:53]
and in the counts. Can we rely on a comparison
[1:49:57]
or should we just sort of forget about comparing to
[1:50:00]
the past and say, this is where we're at, and
[1:50:03]
this is what we have. And I also look forward
[1:50:06]
to some of the disaggregated information. I think it'll be
[1:50:09]
really helpful. Mr. Pettipierre. Yes. Thanks for the question, Councillor
[1:50:15]
Shantz. And there's a lot to unpack In that question.
[1:50:20]
2021 was a very different time In the world coming
[1:50:24]
out of post Covid, we alluded to some of that
[1:50:27]
in the report and our ability to get a really
[1:50:29]
accurate count during that time. I think what we've also
[1:50:33]
seen coming out of Covid is Increased inflation, stagnant job
[1:50:39]
wages, soaring rents. There's a lot of systemic factors that
[1:50:43]
have simply not gotten better since the last count that
[1:50:47]
we did. So I believe, without doing further analysis, I
[1:50:50]
put forward that The count is both more accurate And
[1:50:57]
we continue to see an increase in the inflow into
[1:51:00]
homelessness in this community and across the country based on
[1:51:02]
some of those larger systemic factors that contribute to it.
[1:51:06]
Councillor McCabe. Thank you, through you chair, This may be
[1:51:13]
something you can answer when we get the disaggregated data,
[1:51:16]
but. I'm thinking back to when Jennifer Gordon and a
[1:51:19]
couple of others were here talking about The issue of
[1:51:24]
undercounting or hidden homelessness, particularly for women And for people
[1:51:29]
who are gender diverse and just wondering If there's, hoping
[1:51:33]
there's a commitment to really pull at that thread and
[1:51:36]
really so that we get a better picture, particularly about
[1:51:40]
women who Are couch surfing, That hidden homelessness that was
[1:51:45]
brought to our attention a few months ago. Thank you.
[1:51:48]
And through you, Mr. Chair, Yes, absolutely. And speaking of
[1:51:53]
the commitment to, Jennifer Gordon led a whole lot of
[1:51:55]
that work from the community side with this, particularly when
[1:51:57]
it comes to women In the issue of hidden homelessness,
[1:52:00]
and I can say that we're so committed that we
[1:52:03]
actually hired her To now lead our plan to end
[1:52:10]
chronic homelessness. So through the count this year I mentioned before,
[1:52:13]
that we did put a dedicated effort into counting those
[1:52:16]
hidden homeless populations That included Newcomers, Indigenous, veterans, women and
[1:52:23]
gender diverse individuals. And what I can say explicitly is
[1:52:27]
the counting of those populations was way more robust than
[1:52:30]
it has been in the past. Maybe not completely accurate,
[1:52:33]
but we put a concerted effort into making sure that
[1:52:36]
we're able to find them, enumerate them, and hear their
[1:52:39]
stories so that we can tailor programming In the future
[1:52:41]
to address their needs as well. I don't see any
[1:52:46]
other questions. And this report is for information purposes only,
[1:52:53]
with more detailed information coming back in January. Thanks To
[1:52:58]
Mr. Pettipierre and staff. This is no small undertaking. To
[1:53:04]
use a word that's maybe overused sometimes, I think the
[1:53:07]
initial number was A bit of A shock. But If
[1:53:15]
we reflect back on a report that we got with
[1:53:17]
a plan to end chronic homelessness, I think it was in
[1:53:19]
April, This was the number they were forecasting. And the
[1:53:24]
numbers going forward equally were forecasted. And so we do
[1:53:28]
have a plan in front of us to address some
[1:53:30]
of this, and I'm so hopefully we'll be able to
[1:53:34]
address some of these issues going forward. Thanks to everyone,
[1:53:37]
particularly the 40 from the community who participated. 6.2.2 the
[1:53:43]
waterloo region housing revitalization plan. Mr. Sweeney is up
[1:53:47]
again. Yeah Just briefly, though, I guess I will just
[1:53:52]
state what is probably pretty obvious. We just spent a
[1:53:54]
few minutes talking about a very significant challenge we have
[1:53:57]
in this community that we are facing as a community,
[1:54:00]
and now we're going to turn your attention To some
[1:54:02]
work we are doing to address it and help solve
[1:54:04]
that problem. So I'm going to turn it over to
[1:54:06]
Ryan to walk us through a quick presentation and then
[1:54:09]
answer any questions. Thanks, Peter. And good afternoon again, chair
[1:54:14]
Erb and regional council. We're in front of you next
[1:54:22]
to provide some context, Some updates, And some consideration for
[1:54:27]
future opportunity with regards to our Waterloo regional housing revitalization
[1:54:32]
plan. And you'll likely recall us referring to this plan
[1:54:35]
as the WRH master plan in the past. And, however,
[1:54:40]
being increasingly aware of the power of language through our
[1:54:43]
work and equity work specifically, we're now calling this plan
[1:54:47]
the revitalization plan. Same plan, but new name. This was
[1:54:52]
the plan originally approved in 2019, and we've been back
[1:54:56]
in front of you With various updates and amendments approved
[1:54:59]
over the intervening years. And today marks another one of
[1:55:03]
those milestones as we look forward to not only updating
[1:55:06]
you on the significant work made to date, but to
[1:55:09]
also get your input on how we move Forward. With
[1:55:12]
our final two revitalization projects. To start, I wanted to
[1:55:16]
give you a bit of context. And on this slide
[1:55:22]
And the next one I'll endeavor to do so. We
[1:55:26]
have plans. We have lots of plans. We certainly do
[1:55:29]
not lack for plans in housing services. And so much
[1:55:32]
so that at times it can be confusing for which
[1:55:35]
plan we're referencing At which time. I thought it might
[1:55:38]
be a benefit to speak to three of our larger
[1:55:41]
plans And explain exactly what they are and how they
[1:55:45]
are related. So I'll start With the plan to end
[1:55:47]
chronic homelessness, and I think this is probably most familiar
[1:55:50]
to all Of you, given its recency and attention that
[1:55:53]
it's garnered over the last year or so. at its
[1:55:57]
core, This is our plan to address homelessness issues in
[1:56:00]
our community, To prevent experience of homelessness wherever possible, And
[1:56:06]
to ensure that when homelessness does occur, it is rare,
[1:56:09]
it is brief, and it doesn't happen again. So that's
[1:56:11]
our plan for addressing homelessness in this community. When it
[1:56:16]
comes to affordable housing, we have a plan that you
[1:56:19]
may have heard referred to as building better futures. At
[1:56:24]
its core, this is our plan to create 2,500 new
[1:56:28]
affordable homes inside of five years. You may have also
[1:56:32]
heard an announcement just over a week ago from chair
[1:56:35]
Redman after national housing day that we have not only
[1:56:39]
achieved that goal, but we have surpassed it inside of
[1:56:42]
four years. That is our plan for creating affordable housing
[1:56:46]
that works alongside our plan to address chronic homelessness. Underneath
[1:56:50]
that plan, building better futures, and connected to it and
[1:56:54]
supporting it as the plan I'll be talking to you
[1:56:56]
about in more detail through the next few slides. This
[1:56:59]
is our Revitalization Plan for Waterloo Regional housing. At the
[1:57:04]
heart of this plan Is the goal of redeveloping six
[1:57:08]
of our existing WRH sites to create at least 600
[1:57:14]
Net new homes overall, and I'll spend a little bit
[1:57:17]
more time on the at least part of that and
[1:57:19]
then net new in the coming slides. Those are the
[1:57:23]
three large plans that guide a lot of our work
[1:57:26]
in housing services, one specific to homelessness, one specific overall
[1:57:30]
to affordable housing, And as part of that affordable housing
[1:57:33]
plan, The revitalization plan that's contributing units to that 2,500
[1:57:39]
new affordable units in five years, to the tune of
[1:57:42]
at least 600 of them overall. This is a slide
[1:57:48]
you've definitely seen before. We've added a few more details
[1:57:52]
To it that I'll unpack with you. The top part
[1:57:55]
of the graphic is the housing continuum, which I think
[1:57:58]
you're quite familiar with Now, it's a very simplistic layout of
[1:58:03]
the various stops of housing across the continuum. A Simplistic way
[1:58:09]
of demonstrating A pretty complex Concepts and movement overall. Underneath
[1:58:16]
that, though, we've added a couple of bars that show
[1:58:18]
you where the plans that I just went over sit
[1:58:22]
in the areas of the housing continuum that they are
[1:58:24]
meant to target. So on the left hand side, you'll
[1:58:26]
see our plan to end chronic homelessness in the black bar.
[1:58:29]
That's a plan that attempts to address issues of homelessness
[1:58:34]
from the far left of the continuum in terms of
[1:58:36]
unsheltered homelessness all the way up through and including supportive
[1:58:40]
housing. Below that, you'll see a dark blue bar that
[1:58:43]
says building better Futures. Again That's our larger affordable housing
[1:58:48]
plan. Creating 2,500 new units. Those units span a type
[1:58:54]
that constitutes supportive housing all the way through to affordable
[1:58:59]
home ownership. Those are the types of units that we
[1:59:01]
are creating under that plan. and then again nested within
[1:59:05]
that plan in the lime green bar is our revitalization
[1:59:08]
plan for Waterloo Regional housing. It is specific to community
[1:59:12]
and affordable rental housing. And again, those units are contributing
[1:59:16]
to the overall count of the 2,500 incorporated into building
[1:59:20]
better futures. Below those bars are ones that you would
[1:59:24]
have seen previously. The light blue bar representing the places
[1:59:29]
and spaces that we have available As service levels at
[1:59:34]
each of the stops along the continuum, and below that,
[1:59:37]
the dark green bar That lays out the percentage of
[1:59:41]
the housing and homelessness budget that is dedicated to each
[1:59:45]
one Of those stops. So I thought this might be
[1:59:47]
helpful in understanding the plans that we have, How they
[1:59:50]
interrelate and How they support not only our service levels,
[1:59:54]
but Actually direct the budget that supports each of them
[2:00:00]
along the continuum For the broad scope of responsibility that
[2:00:04]
we have As service system manager for housing and homelessness
[2:00:08]
in the Region of Waterloo. All right, a bit of
[2:00:14]
context. I want to quickly give you some updates on
[2:00:18]
various projects that we have underway, through our revitalization plan.
[2:00:24]
First one overall, Kingscourt Drive in the city of Waterloo,
[2:00:29]
currently under construction. We've got an estimated occupancy of 2025.
[2:00:35]
This will have 73 units. All net new units. The
[2:00:41]
slide actually says new new units.
[2:00:43]
So, yes They will be
[2:00:45]
very new units, but they are also net new. And
[2:00:49]
we say net new. What we mean by that is,
[2:00:52]
we did not have to remove or demolish an existing
[2:00:54]
building or units in order to build these. These are
[2:00:57]
built on a piece of excess property on an existing
[2:00:59]
site. So all the units created Here are net new
[2:01:03]
units. Our plan is also approved by the previous Council
[2:01:08]
under a priority of community benefit. So as we're working
[2:01:11]
with our existing tenants, neighbourhoods, agencies and communities. We're designing
[2:01:16]
these buildings to have the greatest impact for community benefit
[2:01:20]
overall. So at Kingscourt, that looks like Partnering with
[2:01:26]
the Region of Waterloo Senior services to provide programming space
[2:01:29]
for older adults that are experiencing dementia. There will also
[2:01:33]
be other amenity spaces at this building, including indoor gathering
[2:01:37]
space, Outdoor community gardens and a playground. Next up, we
[2:01:42]
have 82 Wilson. It's being constructed on a similar timeline
[2:01:47]
to Kingscourt with an expected occupancy again in 2025.
[2:01:52]
Here's where the net new math comes in, it'll be
[2:01:55]
48 units in total, 32 of which will be net
[2:01:58]
new for those of you that are Quick on the
[2:02:02]
math, you'll realize that this building is taking the place
[2:02:05]
of what was A 16 unit building in Waterloo Regional
[2:02:09]
housing. Tenants in that building were relocated, the building was
[2:02:14]
taken down, and we'll be building 48 Units total, 16
[2:02:18]
of which will be replaced back into this building. This
[2:02:22]
is another building intended for older adults. It's going to
[2:02:26]
look, as you see on the rendering, as a six
[2:02:29]
story apartment. community Benefit. Amenities here include an outdoor courtyard,
[2:02:34]
indoor gathering spaces, programming space for a dedicated community partner
[2:02:38]
to provide services in this building and the other building
[2:02:44]
That is on site, and it's also going to include
[2:02:46]
a commercial kitchen for use in the neighborhood. Next up
[2:02:51]
in our development timeline, we have Langs in the city
[2:02:54]
of Cambridge, also currently under construction, but with an estimated
[2:02:58]
occupancy of 2027. Again, you'll see the net new math
[2:03:03]
here. In total, we'll have 136 units on the site
[2:03:06]
when all is said and done, 98 of those being
[2:03:12]
net new. We've got some interesting community benefit amenities happening
[2:03:18]
here in terms of a playground, play areas, barbecue pits,
[2:03:22]
picnic benches. Inside, we'll have multipurpose rooms, meeting rooms, community
[2:03:27]
gathering space. There also will be a contribution of public
[2:03:31]
art that will be featured at this site. Fourth site
[2:03:36]
and biggest sites at Mooregate in the city of Kitchener.
[2:03:41]
This one is in the design phase of the work,
[2:03:47]
with an expected occupancy of 2029. 378 units projected At
[2:03:55]
this site into apartment style towers of nine and eight
[2:03:59]
storeys. Our plans at this point for community amenities include
[2:04:05]
having space for a retail tenant, a community agency partner,
[2:04:10]
and a childcare center. Next In the development list, We
[2:04:17]
have Shelley drive, again in the city of Kitchener. This
[2:04:21]
one is in the early design stages. So early that
[2:04:24]
I don't even have an artist rendering to share With
[2:04:26]
you on this slide, but it does have an estimated
[2:04:29]
occupancy, again, of 2029. Another larger redevelopment with 192 total
[2:04:36]
units. It'll be a mix of apartments and townhouse style
[2:04:39]
there. And we're Right in the mix of our tenant
[2:04:44]
Liaison committee and youth engagement committees as well, and I'll
[2:04:48]
speak a little bit more about those in a coming
[2:04:51]
slide. The 6th and final revitalization plan Property will be
[2:04:57]
at 140 Weber. And I'll talk a little bit more
[2:05:00]
about that site Specifically when we get to an opportunity
[2:05:03]
for your consideration In a couple of slides. Before I
[2:05:08]
do that, though, I wanted to talk a bit about
[2:05:11]
two aspects of all of this Work that you may
[2:05:14]
not Necessarily hear a lot about, and I think that's
[2:05:18]
a positive sign, actually. The first is tenant relocation. And
[2:05:23]
as you would have seen from the previous slide, this
[2:05:25]
has had to happen at all but our Kingscourt
[2:05:28]
site in order to facilitate the new construction and this
[2:05:31]
is work that, as you can imagine, needs to be
[2:05:34]
done with sensitivity and compassion. we're Asking people to
[2:05:38]
leave their homes so that we can create These new
[2:05:41]
homes. And you can imagine if this work was not
[2:05:44]
done well, what that would look And what that would
[2:05:47]
feel like across the region. We have a specific staff
[2:05:52]
That does this tenant relocation. As a coordinator Val is
[2:05:59]
not here today, but she does this work with these
[2:06:03]
tenants, and she does it very. Well. We've learned through
[2:06:07]
this process, and we continue to learn through this process,
[2:06:10]
but this work is led with compassion, flexibility, and communication
[2:06:15]
that Val applies to do this work so that we
[2:06:17]
can create these new homes. Also wanted to mention tenant
[2:06:23]
engagement as a key part of the work. That may
[2:06:25]
also be something that you don't get to hear a
[2:06:27]
lot about. Tenant engagement in the design process for redevelopment
[2:06:34]
is central for creating the final designs that we end
[2:06:37]
up with to add all of these properties. The design
[2:06:41]
choices that are made, We know that they can impact
[2:06:44]
community wellness in that a well designed building or public
[2:06:48]
space can and should foster a sense of belonging by
[2:06:52]
creating those spaces that are between work and home, that
[2:06:56]
invite social connection and interaction and by engaging the tenants
[2:07:00]
in the design process and early in the design Process,
[2:07:04]
We aim to create a sense of community and responsibility
[2:07:07]
with our tenants that will ultimately live in these buildings.
[2:07:12]
Centering the community within that process fosters community ownership, Sense
[2:07:17]
of pride. And that gets done through the tenant liaison
[2:07:20]
committees and youth committees that work directly With the architects
[2:07:24]
on these projects to create the design principles for the
[2:07:27]
new buildings. This is overall, to this point, facilitated designs
[2:07:32]
that have a strong relationship with our neighborhoods that are
[2:07:36]
located that they are located within. Also being mindful about
[2:07:40]
those that use the buildings, their specific needs, and allowed
[2:07:44]
for creation of knowledge transfer between our tenants and the
[2:07:48]
professionals that are designing the buildings. All right. Last
[2:07:56]
slide. And this one relates to the future directions for
[2:08:00]
our revitalization plan, Pertains to the last two properties In
[2:08:07]
our redevelopment list. And as I mentioned before, We brought
[2:08:12]
updates, amendments and opportunities To you as committee and Council
[2:08:16]
for your consideration along the way of this plan. It
[2:08:20]
has not been a rigid or fixed plan, and we'll
[2:08:22]
continue to look and identify opportunities that we can adjust.
[2:08:27]
And hopefully be creating better end products for this community
[2:08:30]
as we go along. The first opportunity that we're looking
[2:08:34]
for Your feedback and input on relates to The property
[2:08:40]
At Shelley have that I mentioned earlier. This property is
[2:08:42]
bordered between Courtland Ave On the one side and Shelley
[2:08:46]
on the other in the city of Kitchener. And it's
[2:08:49]
the portion of the parcel along Shelley drive that's set
[2:08:52]
for redevelopment. While there's another significant portion of the parcel
[2:08:57]
that fronts onto Courtland Avenue, Well, that presents with a
[2:09:01]
few opportunities For your consideration. It'll be about a four
[2:09:06]
acre parcel along Courtland avenue That we have opportunity
[2:09:15]
to look at, That was not contemplated through the original
[2:09:18]
approval of the revitalization plan. Those opportunities can look like
[2:09:23]
selling the land And using the proceeds to finance the
[2:09:28]
overall revitalization plan or new affordable housing, it could look
[2:09:33]
like selling or leasing that land through a request for
[2:09:36]
proposal process to generate more affordable housing Owned by a
[2:09:40]
third party. Or it could look like us retaining ownership
[2:09:43]
of that land and considering it For further development of
[2:09:48]
a future iteration of a revitalization plan Overall. The other
[2:09:53]
opportunity that I briefly touched on pertains to 140 Weber
[2:09:56]
street. This is our 6th and final redevelopment sites Under
[2:10:02]
the plan. And This particular property Is home right now
[2:10:10]
To supportive housing tenants. As Waterloo Regional Housing We are
[2:10:14]
the owners of the property, the landlords of the property,
[2:10:18]
but We partner With Indwell to provide The supports on
[2:10:25]
site to our residents And ultimately operate That particular building.
[2:10:31]
and so being sensitive to the needs of this particular
[2:10:34]
population, We're looking at some opportunities related to the future
[2:10:38]
ownership model of this site. And we're doing so With
[2:10:44]
trying to find benefit for the existing tenants, And rather
[2:10:48]
than doing a one by one, individual relocation for
[2:10:52]
those tenants looking for an opportunity where we could consider
[2:10:56]
a mass rehousing of Those tenants In a new supportive
[2:10:59]
housing building As one of the opportunities that we could
[2:11:04]
see. We could also see, through partnering with a different
[2:11:08]
ownership model, an ability to reduce the projected capital Costs
[2:11:12]
or creating net new affordable units at this particular site.
[2:11:17]
Or finally, Again, having the potential to sell or lease
[2:11:21]
the land Through an RFP Process overall. So I'll leave
[2:11:29]
you with Those opportunities to consider would be happy to
[2:11:35]
hear your feedback and input as we go away and
[2:11:38]
do some work And bring further thought out plans for
[2:11:42]
those two sites back for your consideration. And I think
[2:11:47]
in closing, I'll leave you with it, I think you
[2:11:50]
can see that the work related to our revitalization plan
[2:11:53]
is it's complex, and it's also grand in its scope.
[2:11:57]
And it couldn't happen Without a whole lot of divisions
[2:12:01]
at the region, working very closely, and they're very aligned.
[2:12:03]
Together, along with our colleagues at the area municipalities, So,
[2:12:08]
a special thanks to our friends and facilities in
[2:12:12]
finance, in legal, in planning and economic development, Our tenants and
[2:12:17]
our neighborhoods overall to make all of this work happen.
[2:12:20]
To date, the role of permanent and deeply affordable housing
[2:12:25]
across the region, It can't be overstated. Without it, it
[2:12:29]
creates challenges that ripple through an entire community, Creating obstacles
[2:12:35]
to financial financial security, good health, educational success and employment.
[2:12:39]
Knowing this and the alignment of this work with our
[2:12:42]
strategic plan, growing with care, The work being done through
[2:12:47]
this revitalization plan is vital not only today to meet
[2:12:51]
the growing demand for affordability, but for the success of
[2:12:54]
future generations in this region. The two opportunities presented to
[2:12:58]
you today with regards to Courtland Ave And 140 Weber,
[2:13:03]
They've been done, Recognizing the importance Of that, but also
[2:13:07]
bringing forward opportunities to address the escalating municipal costs of
[2:13:11]
delivering on This ambitious plan. Happy to take your feedback
[2:13:17]
on what you've heard today, As well as address any
[2:13:20]
questions that you may have. Thanks very much for the
[2:13:24]
presentation. Councillor Shantz. Thank you, And thank you for the
[2:13:31]
presentation and To Peter and Ryan and your team. You
[2:13:36]
have a very complex and challenging problem to work with.
[2:13:41]
So we appreciate all the work that you do. My
[2:13:44]
question, if you can Put up slide five, My question
[2:13:50]
is, This is really our picture here. Is there a
[2:13:57]
way that We can add in the community piece. And
[2:14:05]
I'm not even sure exactly what it would look like,
[2:14:07]
but you've got the spaces, Region of Waterloo, Those are
[2:14:11]
region of Waterloo spaces. For example, I was talking to
[2:14:15]
a developer This week Who's interested In providing spaces and
[2:14:21]
looking for a way to do that. I know there
[2:14:24]
are other developers that also Are trying to be part
[2:14:28]
of the solution. How do we mesh that all together?
[2:14:33]
Because the PIT count Is community wide. Mr. Pettipierre.
[2:14:44]
Thank you, Councillor Shantz. And excellent question, and one that
[2:14:50]
I hope this slide helps Us to address. So the
[2:14:54]
plan that we went over today, again, is specific to
[2:14:57]
that green bar. Very specific to community housing And to
[2:15:02]
affordable rental housing. That's our part of the equation and
[2:15:06]
contributing overall to building better futures. The plan as it's
[2:15:11]
projected right now, for WRH is going to contribute 669
[2:15:15]
Units. that may change a little bit as The design
[2:15:19]
process for our Final few redevelopments closes in, but that
[2:15:25]
is part of the overall Work of building better futures.
[2:15:30]
We continue to engage in partnerships with the private and
[2:15:34]
not for profit sector. And those are where we're seeing
[2:15:37]
additional contributions that have gotten us to that 2,500 to
[2:15:41]
unit count to date, Where we have significant plans to
[2:15:44]
do even more. And so while the WRH plan is
[2:15:48]
a significant contribution, rough math, about 25% of the overall
[2:15:53]
2,500 units, The rest are being done in partnership with
[2:15:59]
the private and not for profit sectors. And as we
[2:16:02]
look to future iterations of these plans, the next version
[2:16:06]
of Building better futures, they'll continue to play a very
[2:16:10]
significant part. And we're always looking for new opportunities to
[2:16:13]
partner. As I mentioned, even in some of these opportunities
[2:16:17]
with our revitalization plan, but more broadl. Overall. There are
[2:16:23]
significant parts, and we'll need to continue to play an
[2:16:25]
even more significant part, If we're going to be successful
[2:16:28]
in addressing chronic homelessness. you'll see that there is an
[2:16:31]
overlap between the plan to end chronic homelessness and building better
[2:16:35]
futures. We cannot prevent or end homelessness without more work
[2:16:41]
on the affordable housing side of the equation. And more
[2:16:45]
partners are necessary to do that beyond just what we
[2:16:47]
can do through Waterloo regional housing. Bit of a long
[2:16:50]
answer. I hope it helps. Just to follow up, This
[2:16:57]
may come, We need to desegregate the PIT count, but
[2:17:01]
do we know how many People, and I've said this
[2:17:05]
before, we've got people in emergency shelters that are ready
[2:17:08]
to move. Do we have those Quantums That we can
[2:17:14]
see where the bottleneck is, I guess. Part of that
[2:17:19]
will become more clear through the analysis in the point
[2:17:21]
in time count. Peter alluded to this earlier, One of
[2:17:29]
the biggest ways that we can address programming is understanding
[2:17:33]
the reasons how people became homeless homeless in the first
[2:17:36]
place To provide a bit more of an upstream approach
[2:17:39]
in terms of prevention, but also through the survey, understanding
[2:17:42]
what would be most helpful for people to exit The
[2:17:47]
state of homelessness. I mentioned through the Waterloo Regional Housing
[2:17:51]
Revitalization plan Where we'll be starting occupancy in a lot
[2:17:55]
of those units beginning next Year, that's going to contribute
[2:17:59]
a whole lot to Solving many people's states of homelessness
[2:18:04]
currently. Overall, when we look at the total number of
[2:18:09]
shelter spaces and the total number of units that we'll
[2:18:11]
be bringing online There's more new units coming online Even
[2:18:15]
than we have emergency shelter spaces right now, so The
[2:18:19]
answer ultimately to homelessness is more housing, more deeply affordable
[2:18:25]
housing, and specifically more supportive or housing with supports that
[2:18:29]
we're able to offer this population. We need to continue
[2:18:32]
to focus Efforts on That end of the equation, do
[2:18:36]
our planning and our budgeting accordingly so that we can
[2:18:40]
both prevent and end homelessness. Councillor Huinink. Thank you, chair.
[2:18:44]
I have a comment and then a couple of questions
[2:18:46]
That I'm going to try to roll into one. Thank
[2:18:48]
you, First of all, team for your sensitivity to language
[2:18:52]
and the way that it helps us or hinders our
[2:18:55]
thinking, I'm so glad to know what net new housing
[2:18:59]
means, and also the Thinking behind The name change for
[2:19:05]
the plan. I think that's fantastic. In the report, or
[2:19:10]
the presentation, I should say, You reference Community partner space.
[2:19:15]
Have those partners been designated already? And if not, how
[2:19:20]
would they apply? And then just if I could briefly,
[2:19:25]
I know of an initiative undertaken by Toronto
[2:19:29]
City Council and the Indigenous community There, I think the
[2:19:34]
initials are ICEC. I can't remember the long form of
[2:19:40]
that right now, but it involves Two floors of Indigenous
[2:19:44]
housing within an apartment apartment building, which also includes Indigenous
[2:19:50]
health center and community hub And marketplace. I was wondering
[2:19:56]
if and how and whether that would be a good
[2:19:59]
idea For our revitalization plan. Thank You
[2:20:09]
for your questions, Councillor Huinink. So for our first three
[2:20:17]
redevelopments, Kingcourt, Wilson, and Langs Drive, we do have partners
[2:20:22]
planning to provide service in the space. At Kingscourt,
[2:20:26]
it will be senior services providing older adults services to
[2:20:31]
that population And that community in the building. We'll also
[2:20:36]
have seniors' partners at Wilson. We don't have an agreement
[2:20:40]
in place With them just yet So I'll refrain from
[2:20:43]
naming them. And we also do have partners lined up
[2:20:48]
At Langs. Langs Is a particular hub that Had service
[2:20:55]
agencies providing support in the past. They will be invited
[2:20:58]
back, and we'll also be looking for new partners beyond
[2:21:03]
that, In terms of Mooregate, Shelley, And 140 Weber, Nothing
[2:21:10]
sets for those particular redevelopments yet. We'll work with our
[2:21:14]
engagement and liaison committees as well as the neighbourhoods to
[2:21:17]
try to find the partners that we think will support
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those populations Overall the best. Your comment on potential Indigenous
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partnership in any or all of these buildings I think
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is excellent And one that we can look at specifically,
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Both in terms of the services or even the units
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provided. To go back to a previous question, from Councillor
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Shantz, we were happy to support KW Urban Native Wigwam project
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to open up Their housing project in the city of
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Kitchener earlier, or in the city of Cambridge earlier this year
[2:21:54]
through our building better Futures initiative. So part of that
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bigger plan as well and have started some great partnerships
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there and I could see That could be something that
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continues through these new redevelopments. Great. Thanks for your consideration.
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Councillor McCabe. Thank you. And as the others said, thanks very
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much for this information And the work on this. Just
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a couple of questions, one of which is, I was
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a bit Surprised, And maybe it doesn't fit in here,
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but where was 555 Beechwood Drive on this?
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because That's a plan, That's a project that was, It's
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been in the work for a while. Let's just say
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that. Through you chair, so the projects that I reviewed
[2:22:44]
today are again specific to the Waterloo housing revitalization Plan,
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so sites that we own or operate as Waterloo Regional
[2:22:53]
housing, as a landlord entity and so Those are the
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six redevelopments that I spoke to specifically. Outside of that
[2:23:06]
work, We've been finding other ways to partner with the
[2:23:10]
community that contribute to that broader building Better futures initiatives.
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So 555 Beechwood was one of the very
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first surplus land sites that we engaged through The kickoff
[2:23:22]
of building better futures. So it's a partnership with a
[2:23:27]
private sector developer and the region where we put that
[2:23:32]
property out through a request for proposal process. Developers bid
[2:23:36]
on it and ultimately One proponent Was selected. It has
[2:23:43]
been a long time in coming And moving forward to development.
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So it is part of the larger building Better Futures
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initiative, it is not under the WRH revitalization plan. My understanding
[2:24:00]
and the latest update from my team And Georrza at
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the city is that we are sneaking up on a
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building permit on that Site. And hopefully we'll see some
[2:24:10]
shovels in the ground, If not shortly, Then by the
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spring is the latest that I have on that particular
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site. Okay. Thank you for that. Specifically for Waterloo region
[2:24:22]
housing, Because I've heard that there's some municipalitie,s I'm wondering
[2:24:28]
about the housing accelerator fund, because my understanding is the
[2:24:31]
region Didn't have the option of applying for that. But
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since I've also understood that some municipalities have returned money
[2:24:38]
in some cases, like, is it worth a conversation again
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with like, is there federal dollars through that program because
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we have some land that maybe We could, Is it
[2:24:52]
possible to talk to them to see if they may
[2:24:55]
change some of that Criteria and say, look, we've got
[2:24:57]
some land ready to go, We could use some of
[2:24:59]
the housing accelerator funds, perhaps to get another project moving.
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Mr. Sweeney. Yeah. So through You Chair, Councillor McCabe, I'd
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say, My standard answer to that is we are keeping
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our ears close to the ground on every opportunity We
[2:25:18]
can find to bring additional resources to this community. I'm
[2:25:23]
aware of the original limitations to the housing accelerator fund.
[2:25:27]
In terms of eligibility, I don't have any new information
[2:25:29]
for you, but we'll certainly take that back under Advisement,
[2:25:32]
but I don't have anything I can comment here on
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today. Okay. And then My last question Is just about
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the two properties that you were asking about, like, potential
[2:25:41]
opportunities. I mean we'll have To get more information, but my sort
[2:25:45]
of initial reaction is that It would be better to
[2:25:50]
keep the public land in our public hands, because then
[2:25:53]
we actually can Control for a much longer period with
[2:25:56]
the actual affordability Of the housing units that are eventually
[2:26:01]
built there. But in the shorter time frame, because we
[2:26:06]
also have a need for an emergency shelter space, Is
[2:26:10]
that something that we would contemplate on either of those
[2:26:13]
sites? I don't know, Just the address well Enough
[2:26:17]
to know what else is around that Area. I don't
[2:26:20]
know what kind of neighbourhood it's near or anything like
[2:26:22]
that. But I do know we're looking for space, so
[2:26:25]
just wondered if that's a Possibility. Certainly. I'll take that
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one. So, currently, it would not be in our plans
[2:26:32]
to consider Flipping one of these sites into emergency shelter.
[2:26:37]
That's not that we couldn't have That conversation. But that's
[2:26:40]
certainly not what we're contemplating. I do want to bring
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back To council That at one of our previous budget
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plan and budget meetings, we showed you a slide. Sorry.
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We showed you a slide to outline The upcoming debt
[2:26:57]
load and debt servicing costs related, that is, related specifically
[2:27:03]
to these projects. So just to make sure that we're
[2:27:05]
connecting both of those. And so the recommendation that comes
[2:27:08]
forward before you today, and I want to thank Ryan
[2:27:10]
and team for being really specific and getting ahead Of
[2:27:12]
the question of, well, what might that look like? And
[2:27:14]
that was the examples. But you'll See The recommendation is
[2:27:17]
really giving us the direction to go and explore some
[2:27:19]
of those and One of the elements that we would
[2:27:22]
look at is, are there opportunities to reconsider or reprofile
[2:27:28]
While ensuring affordability, ensuring that we're meeting the targets and
[2:27:32]
the needs of the community. But they might also have
[2:27:34]
some positive financial benefit for the region in light of
[2:27:38]
the information that we shared with you today. So just
[2:27:40]
want to make sure that we're really clear what we're
[2:27:42]
asking and why. But to your specific point, we would
[2:27:47]
continue, Our first cut at this would be to continue
[2:27:51]
to look at this through the lens of adding affordable
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Housing units As a sort of modality that we would
[2:27:58]
be delivering. Did you say you're going to move it
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Councillor McCabe? Okay. Thank you. Chair Redman. Thank
[2:28:10]
you Chair Erb, I don't want to horn in on
[2:28:12]
seconding it but I'd be happy to. I think we all
[2:28:14]
would. I really appreciate The slide about the continuum housing.
[2:28:20]
I'm a visual learner, and that's really helpful to me.
[2:28:24]
I never hear any update from this whole department and
[2:28:27]
all the people in it that I'm not impressed. Councillor
[2:28:30]
McCabe I continue to lobby as a chair of this
[2:28:34]
region to access some of that funding that we were
[2:28:37]
not eligible for. I'm going to try to ask Councillor
[2:28:40]
Shantz's question in a different way, Just because she and
[2:28:43]
I have had many side conversations about this, and I'm
[2:28:46]
going to premise this By saying, when I look at
[2:28:48]
this continuum, To provide affordable housing, I know the answer
[2:28:54]
to all of this is we just need more. We
[2:28:56]
need more of everything on this continuum, and I get
[2:28:58]
that. I also get that we've been in budget deliberations,
[2:29:01]
and this is a really tough year, but if you
[2:29:04]
were able to look at people who find themselves unsheltered
[2:29:08]
for economic reasons alone, So people That don't have mental
[2:29:12]
health, people that don't have addictions issues, but people who
[2:29:15]
simply have fallen off the radar because they cannot afford.
[2:29:20]
To put a roof over their head, I don't know
[2:29:22]
if we have our arms around That number. I'm assuming
[2:29:26]
there is a gap because we don't have enough of
[2:29:28]
anything. But I'm wondering, what are the pinch points? Is
[2:29:32]
it money? Is it landlords That we can partner with?
[2:29:36]
What are the things that limit our ability to Identify
[2:29:41]
people who are unsheltered for reasons other than some of
[2:29:44]
the classic ones we talk about and how we would
[2:29:47]
move to filling that gap. It's a bit hypothetical, and
[2:29:51]
if you don't want to answer Ryan, you need To
[2:29:53]
know how happy Peter is every time he goes, over
[2:29:55]
to you, Ryan. Thanks for the question, chair. It's a
[2:30:04]
complex question. And it's a complex answer. Not to defer
[2:30:08]
too much of it, but it's what we're hoping to
[2:30:10]
Get at through the disaggregation and further analysis of the
[2:30:12]
point in time count Data. It's going to tell us
[2:30:16]
individual stories for those that completed this survey. And will
[2:30:21]
provide us Numbers program and policy solutions That will help
[2:30:27]
along the way. At this point in time, I don't
[2:30:29]
have a good sense of how many people or what
[2:30:32]
percentage of the homeless population, The economics situation alone, Would
[2:30:38]
pertain to, other than saying anybody that's in receipt of
[2:30:42]
social assistance currently right Now, it's completely inadequate in our
[2:30:47]
existing rental market. And if that's the majority income source
[2:30:52]
for the majority of people that are homeless, They're in
[2:30:56]
difficult economic circumstances. That's why the importance of affordable housing,
[2:31:01]
community housing, Rent supplements and supportive housing Are critical
[2:31:06]
all around. And yes, part of the trite Answer is
[2:31:09]
we need more Of all of those, the demand For
[2:31:15]
all of those types of housing in our community continues
[2:31:17]
to grow Exponentially and The cost of meeting all of
[2:31:22]
that, of course, are incredibly expensive as well. The costs
[2:31:25]
of not meeting all of those demands, We're also paying
[2:31:29]
an exorbitant price on as well. And if I could
[2:31:33]
just an observation, It's one of the reasons why it's
[2:31:35]
Very important In any milieu that we find ourselves as
[2:31:38]
public elected politicians to also advocate for raising ODSP and
[2:31:44]
OW. Because it's definitely a contributing factor to people living
[2:31:47]
precariously. Councillor Deutschmann, And then I want to remind committee,
[2:31:53]
it looks like we're starting on a second round of
[2:31:55]
questions. We still have some more work on this committee,
[2:32:01]
we still have SID, and then we have a hard
[2:32:04]
stop at 05:00. Councillor Deutschmann. Yeah. Thank you. Chair Erb. Just quickly, I just wanted to,
[2:32:11]
First of all, I wanted to congratulate Waterloo on
[2:32:13]
the great announcement with the Build Now and the work
[2:32:15]
you're doing up by RIM park there, and I'm just
[2:32:18]
Wondering It got me thinking. Are we working with build
[2:32:21]
now? Are they part of This in terms of what
[2:32:24]
we're looking at in terms of partnerships. And habitat for
[2:32:27]
humanity. Thanks. Mr. Pettipiere. Thanks for the question.
[2:32:39]
I know that some meetings have happened With the build
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now group. I'm not aware of any specific project that
[2:32:47]
we have on The go. I'd say from our perspective,
[2:32:51]
With regards to our surplus lands, We'd be interested in
[2:32:54]
any partnership opportunity that presents itself, As well as potential
[2:32:59]
for the last two opportunities With our revitalization plan that
[2:33:04]
I mentioned earlier. And just a quick follow up, how
[2:33:07]
large is the land at Shelley and Courtland. Through You chair
[2:33:11]
the property that was discussing on the Courtland side, That's
[2:33:16]
not needed For our redevelopment Is 4.33 acres. Ok Thank you.
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Councillor James.
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Okay. Thank you. Through you chair I would like to
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move a motion to call the question right now. Procedurally,
[2:33:43]
there's no debate on that, right? Just vote, okay. So
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can we use your eScribe buttons to indicate your support
[2:33:54]
for this. So it was Moved by Councillor McCabe, seconded
[2:33:57]
by Chair Redman. No, that was part of your motion.
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Sorry. I apologize. Okay. If you use the eScribe to
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vote.
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Okay, so this is to
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call the question, correct?
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Councillor Liggett, are you in favour of calling the
[2:34:44]
question? Thank you. Okay. Carried. Now we're back to the
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original motion, moved by Councillor McCabe, seconded By chair
[2:34:54]
Redman.
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Your showing as absent Councillor Wolf. Okay. And that's Carried.
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And if I may, as chair, without being overruled, I
[2:35:32]
want to, thanks Ryan and team For all the work
[2:35:35]
on this, and particularly Amy and kristen. Around the slides
[2:35:42]
of tenant relocation engagement, I attended most of those meetings
[2:35:46]
that you had with these Various sites. The relocation of
[2:35:52]
these tenants is a massive, massive job other than just
[2:35:55]
building these buildings, and so thank you for the work
[2:35:58]
you did on that and the sensitivity which you
[2:36:00]
treated the people because We're basically uprooting where they're
[2:36:03]
living and moving them to other places. So thanks very
[2:36:05]
much for the work that you done on that part
[2:36:07]
of the file. We are on to item 7.1, Council
[2:36:17]
tracking list. There is nothing. Is there any other business?
[2:36:27]
The next meeting will be next year. January the 14th,
[2:36:33]
2025. Could I have a motion to adjourn? Moved by
[2:36:36]
Councillor McCabe. Seconded by Councillor Shantz. All those in favour?
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Thumbs up from Councillor Liggett. Thank you.