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V Waiting House Group
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We're going to sit down and have a good week on the community, look at our meetings and watch our wishes and hopefully discuss all of this.
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We're not here more than we have to give us wisdom, it was just for us to give us courage and we'll go through this.
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And we thank you again for all the questions that you've sent out.
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I move that we move all business item A and proposed by the number 20, Joe Chandler, Mr. Chandler, who signed up to do that, who needs to be moved to number 3, citizens comments and start off our discussion in the citizens comments.
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…and we don't know that the things come up,
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and we're not ever bound to be far.
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If you follow everything you've done with girls you're playedware, you'll be aware of it.
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But those sometimes are something that's left that is worth it.
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Would I or would I?
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We don't want something to cause.
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A major is troubling you that life.
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A council has done so many good things since the party.
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I mean, it's just, you make this plan,
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try out with this plan,
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and I've got a petition here,
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running something close outside of it now,
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I'm not sure.
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It's like, why should we make that?
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They're not in favor for this plan to be more exciting.
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Ortigo lesteen.
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Y'all like it when
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the state of Maryland is deaf,
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this is an amazing sport.
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I think it's a traditional sport.
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I've also been a role model for many years.
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As we have different styles of sport in our music industry,
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and I think it's...
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And what's the best thing about this sport?
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I'm proud to know that in the US,
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I'm proud to be at the University of Maryland,
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particularly in upperell,
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It's a very popular sport.
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Also, I'm proud as a basketball player,
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I don't know what I'm supposed to do, is that I live in a tipsy county.
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Bringo, if I've done my calculations right, is about five to nine of those officers short.
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I understand sheriff says he said that he would come in and help if needed.
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If I call 911 for my home, I want to know that police are on their way.
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…at the county is on their way.
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I pay county taxes,
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but therefore I want to be protected.
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I don't think that it's necessary
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that we should even have to
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demand out the county
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to kind of help in the situation
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that rises.
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If the lockdown claims
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it rains right,
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there won't be a problem.
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I have a problem of 20X parking
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sizes.
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Once the work gets out,
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A lot of people are working at six o'clock.
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I'm just worried for the safety on the highway.
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I'm worried about the safety of the health family.
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But yet again, I'm going to throw it out there.
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I'm not opposed to treatment.
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I'm not opposed.
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We do have four in a 25 mile radius.
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Why do we need more?
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I mean, do we have that many people in Walker and Paturice County
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that's on that makes that treatment?
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Houdimmi neither one, and all those exots can't tiballer, can begin to touch him.
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They vie past this ,and have no suggesting potential factor.
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We already know the construction down there, which is higher than three, how bad it is.
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So I'm just looking out for one public safety.
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And for change, I'm looking out for the tax dollars that I pay.
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I won't be able to utilize the five-column on one one,
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that I don't have to wait for all the search to be come from the city and the county to my home.
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So that is something to consider to visit next,
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not only your 4,000 residents in Ring of Georgia for the assistance of the city,
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Donc, on a un recital de la CCCCCC.
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Thank you very much.
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Cherry Book.
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Oh, the 87 Cherokee Lake Drive in Rincoles.
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I got past this 20-70 times a day.
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But, instead of me spending my 5 minutes,
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telling you why, personally,
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don't want this dispenser in your 8-year,
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I'm going to share some facts with you.
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righteousness a sharp honored nella la sade,
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are more compelling than I am,
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most steadily cherished.
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I am right here, in front of me,
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the cat's the number one cause.
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For the last four years,
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for an address once in aAssistant,
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forty eighty thirty cloud Screamd жив.
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That is the location of our closest
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$10 per cent of them took place in the hours of 12 30 to 5 a.m. prior to the clinic opening. 58% of those calls were during the sensing hours by the end of the chinning.
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32% of those calls were after distancing hours.
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Chen A. have been authoring the email.
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40% of the calls were after distancing hours.
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Senate of those calls were for Barclay alarm going off in that building, hours right before
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it stands in the curse. According to police, it was individuals who line up as early as
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1 a.m. to start their treatment, and they start pulling in by number doors. 19% of those
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calls were for a VMS related emergency, sort of patients, overdose, or couldn't stay away
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in the facility or happen to pass out in parking lot.
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The remainder of those calls cover everything from auto accidents
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in the parking lot, this fights between patients,
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passing counterfeit money to get their treatment,
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assault, theft by taking,
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as well as several bolos involving vehicles
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that were wanted for a hit and run of a child
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that happened to date before, and the selling of the pills they had just obtained inside
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were in the night area. Is it any wonder why those of us who live in and around
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this new proposed location are worried? First impressions are everything, and for
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many of us are first impressions of this type of facility, all what we've seen,
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and we've heard the regards to the other facilities in our area.
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not in other cities, but right here in our area.
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There are four dispensaries already
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within one mile radius of this proposed location.
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I have the opportunity to meet
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with a local professional who's in this industry.
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He stated that the facility on cloud farms
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right has more patients than the city of Erieville
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has registered voters, and 95% of the patients
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come from outside.
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So why is there a need for a good, is it so that we can take care of patients that don't
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breathe out in our area and live in other states?
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There are almost 24-hundred students that will be attending school less than one law from
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this proposed facility location.
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Not to mention the students that you must worry about, if you go directly across the street
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with a beat at the park in Laud at 6.29, which is during this 15-hours, and may have the
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pleasure to be able to see some of these incidents that I've just
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tried have been right at the road.
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My last fire is the petition I wish to
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submit on behalf of 878 individuals who do not agree with the
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location of this one. I have a copy of their signatures and the comments that
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I've been using.
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I do not feel this clinic is needed in this area. It's going to
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place undo stress on an already limited fire and police department. Not to
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to mention the traffic issue it will create,
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given the limited number of parking spaces
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belonging to the facility.
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Cars will be everywhere.
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As I recently witnessed,
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when I went and observed another facility
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located in Lost Boulevard,
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we're playing with parking,
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the majority of the cars were still building with cars,
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as well as parking in all the so-called parking,
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kind of by the interesting vacant buildings around this place.
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In the past few weeks, I've learned more about this topic
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and I ever imagined that will it, but I believe that when you feel strongly about something, you step up and you fight for it.
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I appreciate your time this evening, and I hope that each of you are in the hall of your community, investigate this matter,
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and keep this claim from open and open.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Dr. Henry Carter?
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Dr. Hart was on the board.
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I'm going to ask you a question.
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I'm just hearing from the back that they had in mind about it.
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So tall.
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So tall.
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Okay.
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So about this.
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I just say.
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So.
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I'm.
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I'm.
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I'm.
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I'm.
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I'm.
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specialties, I'll start to send them some practice in that home for 20 years.
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And I also want to introduce a couple of years on how this is great.
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The main boards are kind of an addiction medicine.
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It's just that it creates a rest of that technology.
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We're just talking about one of the main topics of addiction medicine.
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We're going to give you all the rules.
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And the preparation for making that example a couple of years ago,
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I read a chapter in our main textbook,
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which is how trained addiction medicine provisions
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And if you talk to someone who's not that, so I'm going to give you an email, so we'll go back to the board about individual
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preferences to see for us.
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So first is on my creation.
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And that this one particular chapter where we spoke, you make this one.
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This one will be important.
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So that's in the importance of the implementation of the system treatment.
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I was going to give you a part of that.
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We're going to try to decide if that would be the first factor.
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If I look at population that doesn't have a medicality, a well-run, and a professional
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or a bandit, that is just a human program.
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That population is at risk of several things, and the population has access to that,
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we're not the other people, and we think that kind of a return is a thing to all of us.
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But I had a very ambitious institute in the program.
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Nearby, it's well-known.
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I've tried deep reasons in that meeting.
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So I think that's something that some of you may have made.
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I have another clinic.
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And I have this guy, the children that are going to school,
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close by.
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And there are many things that you would be in that team
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that are specific.
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You're right here.
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And there's another couple of different things.
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A lot of weird things are going on in there.
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And I'm going to talk about the problem with it.
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I mean, I was a little bit like that.
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But this is something I think,
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just wanted to be able to appreciate the benefits
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that I've been having.
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I mean, I've looked a lot,
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this is an important life for me.
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I said, have I been wishing back on the individual world
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being and a community for me.
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And we're going to see a fact that I said,
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hey, this has a bigger impact than the given
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long-tailed formation.
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This is something I'm having a place
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Ms. Arulman.
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It's an excellent address.
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Thank you very much.
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It's real close.
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She has different.
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We found out the hard way up here.
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You have to be close.
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I am Vanessa Rowland, I am a nurse on a registration specialist and I am the Eleanor of
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Oracle Treatment Center.
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I want to start out by clarifying we are not a drug house nor are we just a methamphetamine
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clinic.
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We are a complete medication assisted treatment program.
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We provide medical services, individual group and family counseling, as well as assistance
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with social service names that our patients might require.
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We do not spend medication on our program.
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We provide a complete range of services in order
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to help those with immediate use disorder.
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Sorry, but you long-term recovery.
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I'm up in the London community, you know,
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the type of program that we intend to run.
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At first, I want to say that this is a primarily armed
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disability.
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This means that we have the ability
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to set the term for patients who want
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to participate in our program.
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We live in this community, we drive on the same roads that we drive on, our kids go to the same schools that you're children go to.
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The last thing that we want is to have a negative impact.
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So at end, we are going to work with the community to address any concerns that you may have upfront as well as ongoing basis.
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As an example of this, we have heard some of the safety concerns for our school as well and for our facility.
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to address this, we have a court writing School of State
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be training into our new patient orientation,
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to prevent patients' attention to this,
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and to also go over the soft, best soft laws.
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This program that is highly regulated,
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at the state and federal level,
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and we follow strict internal policies
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and procedures to ensure that we are helping us
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in fact about opioid addiction,
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while at any time having an alcoholic impact on our community.
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Before anyone is even admitted into our program,
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and they are very intense screening process to determine if they are an eligible candidate.
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The purpose of this is not only to determine if a medication is this treatment is the best
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treatment and modality, but also determine if the individual is in our treatment for the
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right reasons.
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We will not accept individuals who we see as a risk to our community and we will not allow
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individuals to remain in treatment if we determine if they are a decent treatment or otherwise
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in the community at risk by not following our program rules.
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We have met with other others and other several programs
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that operate with a similar mindset to ours,
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and we have found that community was often designed
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to know that these programs exist in their own community.
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We understand that there are some current terms,
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and we're gonna do our best to address those concerns.
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We plan on holding an open house,
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and we encourage anybody, citizens, council members,
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anybody to attend and learn more
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about medication-assisted treatment as well as to understand the type of program that we intend to run.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Jonathan Cobb.
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My name is Jonathan Cobb.
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I'll take this before it's too far in here.
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And it's name and address.
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My name is Jonathan Cobb.
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My address is 200 George Sound Drive and Rebole.
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I am the new chairman of the Libertarian Party of Northwest Georgia.
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So hopefully you can see a little bit more of the future.
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We are concerned about this not only in citizens of Ringle, but also having done our research
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and educated ourselves on what method-owned clinics, as they're called, medication-assisted
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treatment facilities, bring to the communities that they bring.
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There's a study done by the University of California at San Francisco.
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This is going to show the crime actually drops in most areas where they will run.
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and we also have a study done by the University of Maryland
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as the exact same thing, the University of California
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in San Francisco.
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Also did a separate study that shows that,
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in the long run, medical assisted treatment actually helps
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better than 180-day detox programs do.
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Personally, I have a four-year-old and two-year-old,
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both boys that are beautiful in the world.
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And whenever I left the name each year ago,
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I chose to come back to Ringo. I could have changed it.
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He could have been anywhere, but I can't hear because I love this area.
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I would never do anything that I didn't believe would put them in harm.
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My son goes to Ringo Primary School and hopefully on May for me,
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here at Ringo High School, and I hope that this clinic is still up and running
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and he doesn't even know it's there whenever he's less than three miles away from it.
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But on the other side of this, we all see crime going up.
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We all see this in Florida, Georgia, Tennessee.
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We see how I'm going up because of opioid abuse.
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I feel like we're kind of holding both sides of the coin here
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and neither side is helping.
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Nobody wants to help.
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We want to do these guys in the jail.
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We want to spend our tax dollars
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and putting them in prison.
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We want to spend our tax dollars on enforcing more
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and more crime related to opioid abuse.
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But then we want to have meetings like this
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just to try to stop the human or treatment in some of these areas.
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Yes, we have other treatment facilities in this area, and, like we said, they're booked. Whether it's out of state, whether it's not out of state, we have a lot of people here in Conscious County that still need help. Some of them can't make it to those claims, because some of them are so war-bad-off on opioids, especially prescription painkillers that they don't have cars, they don't have transportation, they don't have a lot of these things to get here. Just a few days ago, we had people called out because there was
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So, people who were some not so great characters at the corner of Graceville Road and 41,
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it's the same situation every day.
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We see it every day around us.
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And I understand that we want to take care of our people.
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We want to take care of everything.
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We also need to worry about visas.
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We need to take care of visas and educator shows.
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I've heard a lot of people bring out petitions out of it.
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the reason why this came to our light was because we were asked to sign those
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traditions. And in none of the material that we represented to sign these
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traditions was there any kind of education, was there any kind of real
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substance to why we should not want this, it was all fear. Well, if you don't sign this
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moron to become a weird, if you don't, that was the tactics that was brought to us and
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we kind of looked at a kind of skeptic. So I just wanted to take a minute and say
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that I believe this is a great thing for the community,
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it is running correctly,
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it's running out of town after afterwards,
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whatever you want to do,
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but at this point,
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I think you are accusing people of crime
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as they make committed.
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You're assuming that somebody's going to be something wrong,
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instead of getting them the chance to do something wrong.
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And I think that's a tragedy against the citizens
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of this county, and especially in similar way.
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Appreciate you not.
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because that is not what's happening in my case.
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And before I talk about other people's families,
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I need to address the audience.
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Everybody in here have family members
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that have passed away from Nippetown.
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So, so, my nephew, when he passed away,
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he bought him on the street.
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Well, he went on the street.
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It was in a mall in North Carolina.
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He's never taken it before.
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They know what it would do. My nephew was a hardened drug addict. He had no reason to feed her.
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And he tried to get in my bed.
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Hey, this is my baby. I had custody of him when he was a teenager and when he got old and that didn't work out too long so I couldn't control him.
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But what I'm saying is that opening up more clinics in the state of Georgia is like putting a bandaid on the laceration.
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Now, while I'm saying that, I'm saying that because the rate of the evil is over-prescribing
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of obvious.
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People that truly desire and need treatment can get anywhere.
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We don't have to open up enough limits.
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I have concerns because there is a set up.
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There is a order of things before you can open up a treatment clinic to begin with.
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you have to have your federal regulations, you have to have your federal approvals before
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you go to the state and before you start reading the theme.
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So that has made some great concerns, that at the same time all my cases that come back
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y'all know that 98% of the court cases are coming back as overdoses.
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Now let me tell you, the methadone for the past 10 years has been in the mix for the direct
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cause.
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Now one's is happening because there are clinics, I'm not accusing these folks around
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them, that there are clinics that are selling it for a dollar a piece.
[34:46]
It is a proven fact now, in our part, that methadone is not the choice to treat opioid
[34:53]
addiction.
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So, what I'm saying is that if they're going to offer better treatment plans, other than
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methadone, if they're not going to sell it for a dollar of pay, if they're going to do
[35:06]
everything they say they're going to do, then I don't have a battle with them.
[35:10]
That when I am a family member of the child that overdoses because there are
[35:15]
plans that they're going to sell, and it does get on the street, and I'm
[35:19]
having to tell families almost on a giant basis that their family never passed away because
[35:25]
they got to have a maximum of history. When this first started, the American we just
[35:32]
built these acts was to protect people that did have our data natures. It's not to protect
[35:37]
people to come in and threaten if they don't have any complaints. The laws had not been changed
[35:44]
very much since 1999. On top of that, there are other treatment
[35:49]
modalities like I have stated. Other than the methadone,
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methadone is very unstable. It repeats within a 48-hour period.
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People that take methadone and they're not used to it,
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if they take it, they think, well, I don't feel this, but they'll turn around and take it out.
[36:08]
Putting more methadone on the street is not the answer. We need to look at trying to
[36:12]
control the doctors that are out of prescribing the opiates.
[36:16]
There are plenty of treatment facilities.
[36:19]
I would like to see for them to have to set back to the flight
[36:23]
through themselves, and if they can't prove themselves,
[36:27]
then let's have some other people coming in and try to get the job.
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And I know this is a horse ride to follow,
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but people just have love spares.
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And I don't know if there's anybody who's riding
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that doesn't know somebody or have family
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remember that doesn't have an open image. I also change and I'll know that and my students tell me a lot
[36:50]
of stuff that goes on inside. Not these folks because they have an open ear. They do have students that go to
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The other thing is, it's horrendous, what I tell you.
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Thank you.
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Leslie?
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Yeah, okay.
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So.
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That's why I have what I've done now.
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Okay.
[37:26]
Okay.
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Is that, is that, is that I tell it?
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Thanks.
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My name's Zach Tell.
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My address is 155, and I'm going to line the chat to work.
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And the reason I've come up here today for one is because
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I'm standing in front of you today as a successful person
[37:51]
a healthy person because of methamphetamine treatment.
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I wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for that treatment.
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I tried many non-medications as to treatment
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so I actually can feel really very loud.
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Yeah, it's hard for me to even think of where to start
[38:08]
because if you look at any credible authorities
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on this issue, the Centers for Disease Control
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and Prevention has not changed their positions.
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The method of methamphetamine treatment
[38:18]
is the quote, most effective treatment for opioid addiction.
[38:22]
They have not resent that statement, that's still their position.
[38:26]
The National Institutes of Health, our own National Institutes of Health in their consensus
[38:31]
panel on opioid addiction, has deemed method on maintenance treatment the quote, gold standard
[38:36]
treatment.
[38:38]
When treatment centers come into community, crowd goes down.
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Drug overdose death rates go down, these are facts.
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The National Institute on Drug Abuse NIDA, they've got a compilation of all the research
[38:50]
of the past half-century around this medication.
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When methadone overdose death rates have gone up, we had seen that.
[38:59]
And so when the federal authorities looked into the reason that these methadone death rates
[39:03]
had gone up, the vast majority of methadone in those cases came back that they were coming
[39:08]
from private prescriptions, from paying clinics, from not from OP treatment programs.
[39:13]
That was an established fact.
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Patients, I had to go to the center every day and take my medication in front of a nurse.
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I wasn't taking it out.
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I didn't have a chance to sell it on the street.
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The federal regulations prohibit that until you have reached stability and recovery and
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it passed multiple drug screens and it participated in individual counseling and groups therapy.
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You're not taking any medication out of that center.
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And so I would just encourage the community to not look at the stigma and the hysteria,
[39:48]
but to look at the established facts, this is the basic method of treatment.
[39:53]
I'm now an alcohol drug abuse counselor and a very successful person.
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I'm a graduate student because of this treatment.
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There are undoubtedly some bad treatments, or some bad treatment centers.
[40:06]
that's true for any medical treatment, that is not unique to this mentality.
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But this is a solution.
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We're in an opioid addiction and overdose epidemic.
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And the facts are, if you look to the national institute of drug abuse,
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the White House Office on National Drug Control Policy,
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when methadone dispensing appropriately comes into a community,
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overdose death rates and drug related crime go down.
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That is a fact.
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And so, I just encourage the town and the community, you've got people in front of you that are wanting to run a reputable center.
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Everyone probably does not come first. You go to the state first. That's a fact. You can check with the state of Georgia.
[40:49]
You apply with the state first. The state's already approved this facility. They're licensed.
[40:54]
And so, again, I'm not sure at this point what can really be done to stop it from opening,
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but I would count our blessings that you don't have one of these dollars a day centers trying to open
[41:06]
in your community.
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You have locals that are going to run a private facility and they want to involve the community
[41:12]
and they want to do this throughout the way.
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So just consider and remember the face of people after me.
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These aren't junkies in my alley.
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This is, according to CDC, the most effective treatment for this epidemic that we're currently facing.
[41:26]
This is most opiate that addicted people's best hope for recovery.
[41:32]
It certainly was mine because all the other treatments that we keep hearing about failed me,
[41:37]
and they failed many others.
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Tom and Tom again.
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Methanam saves lives.
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Thank you.
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Shannon Campbell.
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I'm
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Shannon Campbell, I live in the teaching room with Dr. Iringo.
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I've actually lived here for a year.
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I'm from China, Indonesia.
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I moved here also for a while to get my PhD in psychology.
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And a lot of my focus has been on holistic health,
[42:16]
and the use of natural sub-lacos for type of therapy
[42:18]
as opposed to my dissertation, particular focus on opioids
[42:22]
and visit asapins.
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One of the things that haven't been addressed,
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us as a matter of fact, is the concern with color drug abuse, especially with natural
[42:30]
clinics.
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I actually have $2, so I'm speaking as mother as well, 14 or only 9-year-old.
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I think my biggest issue with this clinic, you know, like a lot of people said, I think
[42:42]
the special clinic said, well run, it's not a bad thing, but the location in my daughter's
[42:46]
here. It's so close to school. My daughter's already told me about a number of cases with
[42:51]
family, she's like, man, there's so many kids that have told me they've done this, and
[42:55]
that, this, and that, and you know, she gets nervous, and she knows a little bit about
[43:00]
my research, and she's like, mom, I don't think they have an alternative, so I'm like,
[43:04]
it's just not my own, you know, it's an unfortunate part of it, but I'm solely but surely the more,
[43:11]
I guess you could say, from perspective on how to use medicinal plants as growing, but
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it's so coming.
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And I think we should just really appreciate, you know, the, I should say, like,
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visit asapies are probably the most common but alcohol.
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So, we have tons of pharmacies as well as, not as many bars around here,
[43:31]
but, you know, there's still opportunities to go to liquor stores.
[43:34]
And a lot of these issues, especially if everyone has come out with a bond right use.
[43:39]
They, as a matter of fact, they just came out with a black box of warning
[43:42]
about even patients who are prescribed opioids
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and then there's a lot of things together,
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especially things like Xanax,
[43:50]
endopathy, overdose issues, and death.
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So I think that hopefully there'll be some consideration
[44:00]
about the location as well as how it may influence
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down the road, alcohol consumption as well as,
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the shop and behavior of these people,
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some of them anyway can be pretty rampant.
[44:15]
They go from pharmacy to pharmacy doctor and doctor.
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And first people driving from Kentucky and other places,
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you know, there's no telling to what degree
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they may be shopping around
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and like some people mentioned,
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it's selling some of these methadone doses.
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Hopefully the clinic is going well, it won't be an issue,
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but you know, like I said, as a mother,
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it inserts with a small bit.
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But I think one of the biggest percentages I've found in my research is 51 to 70% of the
[44:44]
patients use men's and asapines to get that high life.
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And that's a huge number, a huge number of people.
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I don't know how many of you would go to these funnics would be.
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It would be good to have statistics on that for sure.
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Please speak, please speak, please speak, please speak.
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I would consider it about how it can affect the number of people and what can be brought in to the city, especially when it comes to the kids, and any kind of drug use for issues. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Joy and Jessie Gordon.
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Good morning.
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My name is Joy Thornton.
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I live at Thalwell Thirds Park Street from the high school.
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I have a business right down the street here on Tennessee Street.
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Actually, as soon as I have two businesses there, my, my, I was brought.
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This was brought to my attention.
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I guess I live in my little junket world and didn't realize it was getting ready to
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open right across the street from me.
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And it was brought to my attention by some phone calls, and so then they just got a newspaper
[45:59]
called me and asked me, you know, a lot, they had understood that it's spoken out of my
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own Facebook, and were in my opinion, and in my opinion, in the newspaper it quotes me
[46:11]
as saying that people are concerned, meaning local wrinkled people are concerned about drugs,
[46:18]
drug users, drug abusers, and drug ease, I said, being in the neighborhood and just being there, standing in line, waiting to get in and choosing to roam around town and do as they choose to do.
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and because I was quoted as saying that, I was cursed.
[46:41]
The lady went on the Facebook page and cursed me for saying that.
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That I was concerned.
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So that's the kind of people who I saw.
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I see as being pro, this planet.
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People who will call me an uneducated ignorant,
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backward, just because I said local people are concerned about drug users being in the
[47:08]
neighborhood.
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So that even made me more concerned.
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Then I got a phone call from a gentleman who lives in James Town, Tennessee, which
[47:17]
happens to be where I grew up.
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And he got my phone number and called me to ask me how in the world do you have the audacity
[47:27]
to say that men on planet is rad and I said excuse me who is this he told me his
[47:34]
name and I vaguely remember someone by that name being in in hospital around
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the same time I was I don't live in J.J. town Tennessee I live in Ringo, Georgia
[47:45]
where people ask me where you're from I say I'm from Ringo, Georgia now and
[47:49]
that's where I'm from I live here all my well-being is here my grandchildren go to
[47:56]
the schools here, my husband grew up here. So I'm concerned about Ringel Georgia. So I said,
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why do you care Jackie if Ringel Georgia gets a clinic? Don't you still live in Jane's Town
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Tennessee? He said, yes, I do. And I bought, I bought heroin and I bought more
[48:20]
thing on the streets
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a dangerous county. But I drive to Georgia once a month to get my methadone. I drive to Georgia now
[48:30]
140 miles once a month to get my methadone. So it's not the people of the Tucson County that
[48:38]
the clinic thinks of Tucson County or helping her say. It's people 140 miles away in
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interest county Tennessee and in Florida and in Alabama and in South Carolina
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coming here to get their drugs. That's my concern of that. When we have karate
[48:56]
kids running up and down the streets doing their training we have kids getting
[49:01]
on buses and walking to the school. I have a business here. There's businesses
[49:06]
over here that are gonna be affected by this. I don't even know if the little
[49:11]
family the Spanish speaking family that lives across the street from the
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The method I'm planning to realize is that they're going to be people lined up in the parking lot when they're out there and they're swimming pooling in front of y'all.
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That's why I'm concerned about it.
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Thank you for coming on.
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Thank you.
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I'll just see you're on here. Did you want to?
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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
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As you all know, I grew up here in Rainbow.
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And I devoted my life to Rainbow.
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I had opportunities to move in different countries to teach martial arts.
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But I chose to stay here because someone reached out and helped me and gave me a chance.
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And to see that, you know, I understand this clinic is here to give somebody a chance
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to change their life like this young man over here.
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How many have you seen change their life like that?
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We have kids every single day running up and down these streets, training to make them
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they're black. We have kids running around the nature's trail over here. We have a run
[50:35]
about Kentucky fried chicken over in the blood of you by the high school. All over this
[50:42]
city and to bring this in our city, I really feel like it's a really bad situation to be
[50:50]
a part of it. And look at the people that migrate into Chicago and wrangle because of the things
[50:57]
that are going on in Chattanoon and in Dalton, you know, people in Chattanoon have moved
[51:03]
to Reno because they feel like this is one of the safest cities they can move to.
[51:10]
Yes, we have our, you know, we have a share of problems just like any city does, but we
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have an awesome cancel here that a really may bring those families out, people see, people
[51:25]
want to come here, you know, because they know that they can be safe. Look at all these
[51:30]
older people that are right walking every single night. You may never see, you know, you
[51:36]
wouldn't see that in Chattanoom. You wouldn't see that in dog, because everybody's afraid
[51:41]
that they're going to get jump. But if we bring that clinic here, we're going to run into the
[51:48]
same problems. I don't want that clinic to affect my business. I'm 56 years old. I've been
[51:56]
teaching martial arts here for 42 years. I'm not gonna let that run me at 10.
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I love, you know,
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I respect you all for what you're trying to do and how you're trying to do it, but my grandson
[52:11]
and my granddaughter, their mother, was on this. And she went to the clinic there on Ross
[52:18]
a little boy just so she can get a high and you know I said I'm not gonna take you
[52:24]
out just for that she said well if I don't get it there I gotta go get some more
[52:28]
else and
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so to me when a person just specifically speaks out and say that's why I'm
[52:38]
going you
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look in and you tell me what you think and
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you know it's a shame that
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their own mother can't raise them because of the stuff. You know, but I thank God that
[52:58]
they're migraine children, they're migraine children, so that they have a chance in life.
[53:05]
Because they're not going to be exposed to them. We're going to raise these kids the right way.
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That's why I speak so much about the Lord here at our school and how we should carry each other and
[53:18]
protect each other. And that's where I feel my whole community. You know, you get your
[53:26]
life on the line every day in the law enforcement. You know, you guys, I'll be out for your life
[53:31]
on the line for this signal.
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And as you said, can you go home at night and lay down and sleep
[53:41]
without worrying about all the stuff coming in the signal? And there's people that are driving
[53:47]
150 miles and further. I mean, I can't think of these other claims. There's four already here.
[53:56]
By the way, I have one right here. I wouldn't mind if they moved it somewhere else,
[54:01]
but not here in the senior arena. Thank you. I
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went four, 15, 10 miles out of you,
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Marable Tennessee. I've got 25 years in education background,
[54:32]
assistant principal, athletic director, school teacher, also 15 years in law
[54:38]
enforcement, reserved at you with sheriff's department.
[54:43]
Several comments that
[54:45]
I'm hearing, we don't want that here, we don't want that coming here, it's already
[54:49]
here. The director already in your panel. Working as a consultant for some sort of
[55:00]
security for certain clinics and so what I'm going to call effectively
[55:05]
or in programs, geese to police, sheriffs of the county, encourage their
[55:13]
drug units to go by and actually get charged to hand out as effective
[55:17]
treatment for those because for unlike a lot of other substance abuses,
[55:31]
And that's, again, it goes back to the chemistry of what happens with the actual narcotic itself.
[55:39]
Most of the deaths that we have seen in, you know, we're in one of 14 counties,
[55:44]
that see in each and see with the second highest opioid death rates in the nation or
[55:50]
capital.
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And, you know, it's been something, you know, why is that all of a sudden happening about
[55:59]
five to seven years ago?
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There was a big push to close all the pain pills, clings, low pain doctors, pain clinics,
[56:11]
to get from a pain doctor opioids, which is then why he had an influx for the first time
[56:20]
in 20 years, a heroin epidemic, because it was cheaper and easier to get, because you
[56:26]
never offered it an effective treatment, to take the place of what they were addicted to.
[56:33]
And so what we saw in our family, we were celebrating a law enforcement, and we shut down all the
[56:42]
in our county. We didn't offer anything of an effective treatment to take its place.
[56:51]
And so now what we started seeing was I've been hearing news back up on the rise
[56:56]
for the first time, like I said, over 20 years.
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And so a lot of our deaths, over those deaths, had come.
[57:04]
And again, statistically, talking in a lot of portions are called a lot of the death rates
[57:08]
and the overdoses is not just methanol that's in our system.
[57:13]
Again, doing the research of a lot of the science that your body affects
[57:18]
is mixing those other drugs that are vying off the street
[57:22]
with the methanol that they're vying off the street
[57:26]
or that they're vying off that they're getting from a hand doctor.
[57:34]
And, unfortunately, they're getting from their primary care physician.
[57:38]
So it's not the junkies that we see in the movies, like we see in New York movies where
[57:43]
they're in the back galleries and making their drug deals.
[57:46]
These are professionals that are going to their primary care physician, giving a script.
[57:54]
And because I've had a long history with that doctor,
[58:00]
they're continuing to increase their
[58:01]
script.
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And off my back still said, you know, that's just not working for me right now.
[58:08]
On a personal knowledge of a person, the chief of staff of the hospital, that's also
[58:17]
a primary care physician, was prescribing so many pain pills to a patient that a local
[58:25]
moment top pharmacy wasn't able to feel the prescription for the left supply. This was a cheap
[58:34]
stack of hospital. So again, it's not, oh my gosh, the drugs are coming in off the street. They're
[58:42]
going to be coming to Ringo and bringing drugs. The drugs are already in your community and talking
[58:48]
into several law enforcement officers
[58:51]
where a new treatment center has opened up.
[58:54]
Like I said, they are the ones that are encouraging people.
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They start noticing, and I think I'm going to quote
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of a local county around here,
[59:04]
the chief of police said that makes sense now.
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Wow, when we are arresting folks,
[59:14]
their first work's out of the mouth.
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it's been so hard to find I'm having to do things for dangerous. Thank you. Thank you.
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That's all that I had on my list. We have made it a change to the agenda.
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I believe I got it.
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I believe I got that. I had to deliver it to me. I think we're good.
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Was there another song on that please? Please, please come.
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No,
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you're number 13, I was sharing it for you.
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Thank you my dear.
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Bye.
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Is there a meeting call? One of the six, one, six, one, my job. Excuse me, I didn't attend the speaker. I'm nervous that one of the main concerns that everyone is speaking about is said to other children. But what about the children that have to go on every day to drive the users? Do they want to get a fair chance to have parents that are directly speaking to my father? Was on drugs? When I was going to.
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and luckily my mother wasn't and my parents divorced and I was able to live with my mother
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and grew up in a very safe home but I have a lot of memories from things that I've seen
[1:00:44]
from my father and some kids don't have the, they don't all bless with the fact they get to grow up in a
[1:00:55]
in a drug free home, so I understand that it is a concern
[1:00:58]
that your kids are running around here with a metadome
[1:01:03]
clinic, right on the road, but there are some kids that
[1:01:07]
don't get to go home to a drug free.
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They need to have parents who have an option or resources
[1:01:17]
to get treatment for their safety, but if you're going
[1:01:20]
to think about one said kid, then you need to think
[1:01:23]
about all the kids. I need to think about everybody that is to interact and not just one small
[1:01:29]
set of people. This is huge. This is a big thing and this is going to impact more than just
[1:01:36]
just a small group. And I just think that people may just start considering that when you think
[1:01:41]
about safety of kids, you need to be thinking about safety of children. They don't get to go home
[1:01:46]
Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I guess I would now take a motion from the council to it.
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If
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you want to take the motion, I'll give you a very short statement.
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We're ready now to meet the Sam minutes, Mary.
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Hi.
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It's someone who likes to make a motion, I would like to hear a change of motion.
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No one would like to know who I'll move on.
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So I'd like to start. I have a couple of things I'd like to say.
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First off, I want to thank
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everyone who came. I don't see anything except passion for our community and for the
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people in our community, on both sides, and I just really appreciate incoming and speaking
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your heart. It fills my heart to see a full courtroom. I just really feel the bottom
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of my heart. I want to thank you for coming and sharing with us what you have.
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There
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is a couple of times that I think that it's important to make about what the city's role is in
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this process. I know that there's a lot of people arguing for the planning and against
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the planning and I do want to say that and this is to me is a bigger issue that is preceded
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this is the state has such control over this process and this is an issue that we've been
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doing that to stay with. Not just with this issue I'm not thinking but there's a lot of
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things that the city needs to have more control over this being one of them and so and so we aren't
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happy that our state delegation fought so hard to put in a more Jordan so that we could at least
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examine the issue and if they give a necessary give local communities the tools they need to better
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decide how we want to grow our communities so they have been receptive to that there is a current
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And we are diligently working throughout this process to try to make sure that they do give the cities the tools that they need to be more self-determined, whichever way they may be.
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And so I didn't want to share that.
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As far as the loss in seeing and the permitting goes,
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that's unfortunately, because this is handled
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at the state level, something that we were not privy to,
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or if they made their application,
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it's not something that they inform the city about.
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There's a way in the process,
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they do apply for business tax permit,
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that's just for us to collect the tax from them.
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But again, I'm looking forward to what the State of Tennessee, or I'm sorry, the State of Georgia does, to give us some of the tools that we need.
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This application did come with a more joint to a place, and so we have a full core reach now.
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We are diligently as a city, and this is the same for the job that we're doing.
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We are diligently making sure that they meet all the requirements, because that's one
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of the things that we're supposed to do, that's our job as a city, as a city, is to make
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sure that they are meeting each and every single one of those requirements, and we understand
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and the concerns that are brought up on both sides.
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And I do want you to know that, that the city,
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and a lot of people are bringing things to the city
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for us to look at it.
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And we always welcome people within the community
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who live and work and play here and bring things to us
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so that we can make the most important decisions
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that we can.
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And so that's where we're at right now in this process.
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us verifying that sort of thing. And then on the back end, really, the only authority that
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we have is zoning, ensuring that the zoning is enforced. And they have zoning that they
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have to meet ahead of time. And also, once they begin operating, they have to comply with the
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zoning for its analytical facility. That's how it's owned. And so that would be the city's
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at that point and so I wanted to put that information out there to make sure
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everybody knew where to see it was at what what we're doing and what our role
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actually is. I would welcome any comments from the council that I'm not
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to speak.
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Thank you all for coming and sharing your points of view and I'm
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I'm sure all of us on the council will be agreeable to this, but I'm going to suggest
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that the minutes that have been shared and minutes taken from the comments are provided
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not only to our commissioner of public health, who is actually over the department which
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as well as our senator, senator Jeff Mullis has been working as well as several of our
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legislative delegation have worked to create the moratorium and actually the senator will
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be cheering the committee that's going to be working over the next year that will be
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been developing in various decisions that the state will eventually make upon
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credits of this nature and put it to law in the coming legislative period next
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spring. But he is shared with me that he's planning on bringing that
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committee to Red Gold. I encourage you, no matter which side of the issue you're
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on, or that you see that, watch for that. Please come and share your views with
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committee because that will have an impact not only in Ringo but all across the
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state relating to these he is expressed to me that if we come up sometime in
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the very near future and so it could be this month it could be next but watch
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here local newspaper I'm sure that we announcing that when that comes
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to pass so I encourage we also share a minutes with that body with the state I
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I want to thank you once again for being here, as far as the mayor has covered most of our responsibilities,
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unfortunately, our power has given to us by the state.
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We're limited to what we can do related to any facility of many different cons, but especially
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in this area, the state has retained the power to make decisions relating to this.
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So we have to defer you and encourage you to talk to other friends at the Department of Public Health
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and share your concerns with them as well as the government.
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We do also use that ultimately.
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You can share with either of those offices, and I'm sure they would love to hear from you.
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No matter which side of the issues you're off.
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So thank you, Mr. Mayor.
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Thank you.
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I like to say, thanks to all of you kind of, this is an issue that once you start looking at it, studying it a little bit, drugs are one of the worst things to do here, and this is messy.
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Not being messy, the whole thing is gone.
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I don't have a quick solution. I don't think you think that I have a quick solution.
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Well, this is our own thing.
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Joel mentioned how long he had been here.
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I think we've been here in the white American.
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45, 46 years.
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We've got things that we have to work with,
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the laws that will go to the state.
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These kind of things, that's a fairly significant.
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On the other side, everybody here has their opinion.
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whether it's physics, physics, physics, physics, physics are different.
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And we're all in line with that thing. We're in America. That's not where we're
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capable of thinking. And talk as openly as we have to know.
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I do encourage all of them. Don't solve an awful problem.
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Don't let us say we should go out against each other,
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get all these people. And then we're all out against people.
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Because we don't want to sit down, we're not right for all of this.
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And hopefully when it comes out, it will be one of them with the all of us, they can be one, they can just, yeah, I can't say you're really vulnerable.
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But if they send a mandate up here, and the vote comes up, you don't have to vote that name.
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So this is your time to get in here and try to take a share of it, and give them your feet into practice.
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I'm not going to talk about the phone calls, I'm just going to say, hey this is what I want
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or this is what I want to talk about.
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It looks like you are all on your drive.
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Anyone else want to come?
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I don't think so.
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Please, again, I'd like to thank God for coming.
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And I don't want to take up very much time because it's been said that City really had no
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responsibility, no authority in this area, whether we like it or whether we don't.
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It was a state issue, it was a state permit.
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So what I'm going to do is just encourage all of you again to come and follow the state
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committee, Jeff Mullis, who is our senator, will be actually chairing those meetings during
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this year when there will be no clinics open in Georgia and I am hopeful that what comes out
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of this is standards. Standards that, if you're afraid of what comes in, standards that we can
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then have power as a local community to enforce. So again, I encourage everybody to talk
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to their state representatives to go to those meetings held by Senator Kamala's hopefully
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one soon will be up here, voice your opinion, but act on that as well, say what can we
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do if the answer's not going to be yes and no if the answer's going to be higher standards
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to meet in order to allow a treatment facility to exist, then I hope you participate in that process too,
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and what would be those standards to keep our children safe and at the same time allow treatment for drug addiction.
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Yes, but I would like to say thank you for the speakers, I think we heard a wealth of information
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from both sides, four in against, like others, I've born and raised here and I've been
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concerned about quality of life.
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I think we had some real good issues that came forward and this file presented the CAD documents
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to show us the number of calls. I know from being the chief at 404, the
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the concern that we had there, and the experience is the number of cars, it
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would come in in the wee hours of owing and would say it on the parking lot, we
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talked about the rest of some of those calls for service with the police
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point. So going forward, I share a lot of those concerns with calls of our
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community and what I would like to address specifically is I think going forward
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We see this treatment center open because each one of us knows that the opiate addiction
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of what we're seeing from the mixing of methadone and I think one of our speakers briefly
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touched all the problems of mixing medication and methadone mixing with the ribinzo which is
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something that's commonly done, which causes a lot of the deaths.
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There are a lot of concerns in this area, and there's a lot of good ordinance for that. I hope going forward, if this
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and not just private security.
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So addiction is a terrible problem in our country and that
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and we see it, but we've talked about the medication
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from the doctors, prescribed the medication,
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over prescribed the medication that we've seen
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from the hydrocode, the one oxygen code, the one
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that we can go on and on and on and on, so it's a problem
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that we have to figure out how to go on forward
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as Americans to effectively deal with that percentage
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of people that have a problem with addiction,
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whatever that addiction is.
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Thank you, each one of you.
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We need to take a lot of courage to come up to that microphone and speak, and I agree with Mr. Chandler, but excuse me also, but thank you.
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At this time, I would like to take a five-minute intervention. I know some of you may or may not want it.
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Intermission, pretty safe. Recess, recess. It's time to operate where they recess.
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Thank you, Mr. President.
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I've motioned a recess and a second.
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Motion to second on better.
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And you're welcome to stay for the rest of our meeting.
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If you would like to go go, we're just going to take a moment to visit the restrooms.
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All right.
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All right.
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Can I get a motion to call the meeting back to order for? So I'm going to have a motion to
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We are in public hearings where we're going to add the notice of the property tax into our public hearings.
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If so, it's already at our time, it's good for us to get up to this session.
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It's in the pilot case, so I'm just going to include it this week.
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I'll just take this out and be under public hearing.
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So, item A, will you make progress in your variance?
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There will be like 1,500 square feet for itself on one single family attached to
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L-ing and C-1 zone to 850 plus minus square feet, okay, that's not our bug, parcel, or.
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Is there anyone here that would like to speak on this?
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This is a tax increase that's about $6 on $100,000 a piece of property for the year.
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We have our notes here on $125,000, it would be $7.60.
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So if anyone would like to speak on that, I'll leave the floor open for that.
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And so I'll pose the public hearing on that.
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Okay, so we moved a couple of things.
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I'm on a new business.
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Okay, so we did, that's right, we had to vote on the public hearing.
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So out of my own public hearing, how would the council like to proceed?
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Mr.
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Mayor, I'll move that we allow this variance, that Mr. Coverage required, as M is stated
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in the planning examines that this variance, and I think that's our normal, the variance
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does not continue should the property owner change, not necessarily correctly, so that should
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be the case here.
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a motion in a second to a three, all in favor? You know, it's for you.
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I think that's normal in our, it's in our clinic, it's in the problem of changes.
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The variance goes in changes. It does with that change in the problem of the owner.
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I was believing they have, but I noticed they put a data plate in his own, so either way, it's a new
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business, I don't know.
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Integral agreement?
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I don't think.
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Don't we have to place a pilot?
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I don't think so.
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This is not a failure, that's a failure.
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Okay.
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So, notice the company tax increase, the motion to approve.
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You see, we're at 3.15 mills.
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Can I get a motion to that?
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We have a motion to second.
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We've got a motion to second.
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I'll be right back.
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We've got an important forum.
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We want to go to the business out of my mouth.
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The intergovernment agreement between the utility district and the city for relocation of water line on Shannon Road.
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And the Highway 41 Project?
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Yes, there is how of course the city, the heavy rain is real big.
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in question, we've been in answering mainly what we're doing here is we're adding relocation
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of a water line that's in conflict with our new structure that we plan to put on Chapman
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Road to have with the flooding issues or like flooding issues into our contract.
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And it will be that out as they separate out so that we'll be able to track what that cost
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and then continue until the district will reimburs and see that cost.
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that way we really have one contractor on the job rather than one partner.
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I'm likely approved of the annual annual agreement.
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A motion to the group, can I get a second?
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Sorry.
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A motion to the second, I'm bigger.
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T9 in school.
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Highway 41, chat and road agreement project, amendment for professional services provided by CTI.
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Yes, we're originally only approved a contract for the design and now we're to the point where
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building is ready to put that to bed, and this would be, no, we could cover putting our
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inspects into the bed, the forced assistance, but also for the construction management
[1:36:23]
administration of the project, and that's where if the contractor has problems, then you
[1:36:30]
will be able to call a bill or his staff will be able to do inspections to make sure that
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that we get what we have a bit of happiness
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is especially important since it's a real key project.
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And so you're just in an origin move forward,
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you're meeting a motion that would say
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that we're going to
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and then offer us, offer us a fire to face the truth.
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And I will go.
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Well, thank you very much.
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Thank you, Randall.
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Second.
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Second.
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The motion to second.
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I'll invite you.
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You know this one.
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Yes sir we had an old timing rate structure that I think it was in the 70s when the
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cities had to provide water service outside the city limits.
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I'm fairly of all clear if you drive one or there was a differential of just maybe a few
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dollars and then over the last 30 or 40 years when the city would pay to 5% and 10% or
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23% rate increased, I think, that differential
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rating from $14.3 cents, the insider minimum rate
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is $31.48 cents.
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What we'd like to say, or what we would recommend
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to the council, is use the same differential
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that the core accounting commissioners
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has authorized on sewer, which is 130%
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and that would reduce that $31.48 cents down to $18.24 cents.
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and then the additional usage would still be built if we didn't want.
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Can I get a motion to?
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I'll make a motion to use the address for the rate.
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Sorry, question a second, I'll take it.
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It's unanimous for me.
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A change order, recommendation for Poster Hills and Woodstraws Santeres River and?
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This is only a recommendation.
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This is actually a contingent county project.
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That will be hard once it is completely finished and inspected and accepted.
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However, it has been customary to report a county commissioner since it is, quote,
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CD blinds with a sparse daylight for us with micro-recognition to accept the change order.
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This is pretty much, we hope to be a final change order as well.
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and it's a $231,847,161, a kind-door range of total to $1,637 or $1,637,217,151 and it will also increase the calendar day by 123 days.
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This will be written made by our third director, Mark Vaughan, and he's also been working with the counter-actor along with Crystal Thomas for part of his adventure.
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What do you approve, Mr. Mayor?
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I have a motion to approve the chamber.
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Can I?
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Well, let me get a second.
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And if there's a second, we'll discuss.
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How did you want to change it?
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If you had an issue with the original motion, please.
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Would you please add to your motion,
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and you move to approve how to say this based on producer
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county's sign and how long this.
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In other words, we're approving this before the county
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commission has approved just for us.
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Yes, moving to approve.
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OK, move to approve our recommendation
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that they follow through with us.
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As long as, as long as we do this, as long as Mammy and Marie, if they agree, we seem like we're going in front of them.
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But okay.
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Do you like motion?
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I have.
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I'll play it through the recommendation.
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Okay, I'm sorry.
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Let me just be sure.
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This is a motion to send a recommendation.
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It's just a recommendation because if you look at the, the owner of the name is
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Patusa County.
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And the contractor is vice-construction.
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So we can only recommend.
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Okay.
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I'm going to say I can just send this recommendation to the County Hall of Fame.
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I'm in.
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I'm in.
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I'm in.
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I'm
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in the board of water treatment planning and clinical feeding and storage improvements
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contract.
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Yes sir.
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Yes sir.
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We have a representative here who contains a leg group.
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Mr. Gray Johnson in the back, I think he was willing to offer a reduction.
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Then I want you to say it.
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And you know, we graduated from high school again, so I think we should make him come to the podium.
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All seriousness of being serious about this.
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because we did go out to read the end and was able to lower the cost of almost $18,000
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and get some additional services that all the things came to play with any local contract
[1:41:50]
or work around that they did.
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They've done numbers, numbers of jobs over the years.
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Not particularly this kind of work, but for those of you that's not aware they do a lot of work
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I think we'll wind up with a good project, and we really need to move forward so we'll get that 86,000
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dollars of debt forgiveness in some of the books, and we've got a firm promise we will go back and see if we find out what's going to happen in the next few weeks.
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We have to give it another couple of dollars since the question was brought to me.
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I'm there with the water treatment plan, chemical healing, and storage improvement.
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It's contracts to team work, teams of company.
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Teams company.
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Can I get a second?
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Thank you.
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So I'll motion a second.
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I want to take it.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Do you have anything presented to session?
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Mr. Mayor, I believe we adjourned.
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The motion to adjourn second.
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Colin Baker, nameless for.