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[0:05] It's 11 o'clock. We'll get ready with our regular public meeting September
[0:10] 8th, 2026. Do we have any public comment?
[0:14] » I got a question. >> Yeah, Bill.
[0:15] » Um, somebody a teacher emailed me wondering
[0:20] was property tax changes or is there less money for adult education?
[0:28] I don't think it doesn't affect at all. >> Okay.
[0:31] » School funding bots the same they filled up 100%.
[0:38] » That thank you. >> That always come school always comes top
[0:41] list. >> Well, it's several month they they get
[0:44] filled 85% automatic.
[0:49] » Okay. Any other public comment?
[0:54] Seeing none, we'll move down to commissioner update.
[0:58] last few without too much going on. Um he's in the office most times
[1:04] too many
[1:10] working backwards. Today we had the fire call. We'll stay in stage one. We're
[1:14] going to do the copper water copper and lead water testing block today.
[1:20] Last Wednesday we had our budget meeting and finalized our budget
[1:25] and u I was at the Montana Petroleum Association meeting in Billings.
[1:31] Very interesting topics um how really important the oil industry is to the
[1:37] state of Montana's
[1:41] economy. Main speaker was Ted TR. He was very
[1:45] interesting which there pipeline people the owner of that.
[1:49] That's a private company. Good.
[1:54] Let's do the thing for the law. Is that it?
[1:59] » It's about the same as it has been. >> What's that?
[2:02] » The budgets >> our our budget uh well with House Bill
[2:06] 117 uh we're limited budget of the rate of inflation. So our budget pretty much
[2:13] went up to 2.5% which 6%. Our mills taxable value went up quite a
[2:22] went up. It's been about 32 to 34 million every since I started 10 years.
[2:28] 34 34,458. So 300 34,4
[2:35] dollars per mill. So that's up. So our mills can come down. So we reduced our
[2:41] mills on this budget and the budget will go up just north two and a half%. And
[2:47] that's including a million dollars for the cape highway and a million dollars
[2:51] for the AR that
[2:56] two kind of extras.
[3:00] 1 million
[3:05] 1 million 1 million 1 million,000.
[3:13] So the the mills went up, dollar value dollar values went up the mills. We were
[3:18] able to reduce our mills which was always good to do. people within the
[3:24] rate of inflation of 2.5 are increasing our budget and half of that increase of
[3:28] our budget is super
[3:33] it's amazing how much salary takes up in our budget half that increase is solid
[3:43] right uh remain was in the yeah bill is the uh pipeline the oil pipeline still
[3:53] » moving along. >> Mr. Trude is Ted Trudy. He is the owner
[3:56] of that pipeline and they said it's >> they had to do some more stuff for
[4:00] environmental things but they were kind of planning on doing it anyway.
[4:05] » They're on track. They are okay. Two year, three year three.
[4:15] And what about the fertilizer? >> Anything? anything still waiting to get
[4:21] their own, but they're it's moving ahead.
[4:26] » Moving along. >> Well, good news, right?
[4:30] » Yeah, it unless the pipeline runs into the fertilizer plant.
[4:36] » Uh I was in the office, you know, the office last week. Uh kind of the same
[4:41] thing with Doug. Emails, phone calls. I did visit with uh Daniels County
[4:45] Commissioner last week. Uh he was he was wondering if we had an update anything
[4:49] on the pipeline. They're they're kind of in desperate need for some
[4:53] infrastructure. They they were going through their
[4:56] budgets too when they they had a tough time
[5:00] u getting their budgets to work out. So they're they're hopeful on the on the
[5:03] pipeline taxes. Um few phone calls on the roads
[5:08] obviously harvest time which get kind of beat up. So visit with Derek to look at
[5:13] some projects. um trying to get some things caught up
[5:16] before weather sets in. But kind of a just business as usual week for me, I
[5:21] guess. So, uh any other questions? Any other discussion on commissioner
[5:26] updates? Okay, seeing none, we'll move down to
[5:32] minutes. Minutes for the regular meeting on August 25th. We have a motion.
[5:39] » A second. >> Motion a second. Any discussion?
[5:43] Seeing none, all in favor.
[5:47] [snorts] Uh motion for the minutes for the month of August 2026. Do we have a
[5:51] motion? >> Motion, a second. Any discussion?
[5:57] Seeing none, all in favor? I >> motion pass. Minutes for the special
[6:04] public meeting on September 2nd, 2026. Do we have a motion?
[6:09] » I'll second it. Motion a second. This was uh budget adoption resolution
[6:14] 2027-7. Any other discussion? See none. We'll call for the vote. All
[6:20] in favor? >> I motion pass. Two administrative
[6:23] issues. Uh motion on Makeo Health Insurance.
[6:29] Have a motion.
[6:36] I'll make the motion to approve uh switching our health insurance from JPT
[6:42] to Montana Association county's health insurance
[6:46] effective January 1st, 2027.
[6:52] Okay, we have a motion. We have a second
[6:58] discussion. I have a second for discussion.
[7:01] Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion on makeo health insurance?
[7:06] Uh changing from JPT to make health insurance.
[7:11] » We we've been uh with JPT for quite a while. I mean we're I'm not dissatisfied
[7:17] with them. I'm kind of concerned with JPT. They uh as a group they lost a lot
[7:24] of schools because the they went to the state health insurance state of Montana
[7:28] put together 300 million sure schools. for health insurance and JP plead
[7:34] hospital on customers there and uh say I've
[7:40] working with PO and the ladies within the healthc care trust there's three ls
[7:45] there that do a really good job of coming out to the counties and servicing
[7:51] the counties JPT we seem like they always had to ask and send to them to
[7:56] come out I feel we'll have better service with JPT the costs
[8:02] for the to the county they're if you compare them headto head they might be a
[8:08] little higher right now but come January or July 1 with JPT would get a 7%
[8:15] increase and this where will be from January 1st to December 31st
[8:22] it's going to be a a lot of work to get everybody switched over and some
[8:27] learning curve for everybody to get on the plan they want to offer are still
[8:31] offered the plans 500,000 1,500 extended I 3,000 is it was there a
[8:40] little different but we have plans we got to pick 500,000 high deductible on
[8:48] 3500 and then we'll have vision and dent added back in with this we've done
[8:54] I think we'd be a lot better service throughout the next 10 years with Nico
[8:58] as opposed to Jake So, is this a 10-year agreement?
[9:04] » No. >> Okay.
[9:05] » No, it's a year, but it's with JP. We have to have a 90-day notice that we're
[9:10] going to be quitting them January 1st. But I'm just talking in the long run in
[9:15] the future. I think a lot better service get that questions answered. And drug
[9:20] costs are getting so expensive. Um, got in with the National Association's
[9:27] drug program. I got something huge for the future with cost of drugs working
[9:35] with the national association counties and using their buying power in
[9:41] contracts that we can get through them. So there's just various things that I
[9:49] push to change. >> Have you heard from feedback from
[9:53] employees? >> Nobody's really said anything to me.
[9:57] What have the employees even been notified? It's
[9:59] » I sent out an email last week to the department heads to share with their
[10:04] employees on on the health insurance discussion.
[10:09] » So you had brought up that that uh there was going to be an increase on the
[10:13] current one come July. What is the increase then in January for
[10:19] I mean a year from now? We don't >> you don't know that. That's
[10:24] » it was JPT in the last 10 years. It's average 7%.
[10:29] » So being having worked on the other side of the spectrum,
[10:33] um the county has one of the best best health insurancees I've ever dealt with
[10:39] next to UPS in this county. I have never seen an insurance where so many people
[10:46] have a zero co-pay on their prescription drugs as the county does. And the the
[10:52] fight of getting drugs approved is not near as hard through the county. And you
[10:58] have to remember that people that have surgeons needed implant all that starts
[11:02] over with the new insurance. They got to go through all the steps that they want
[11:06] them to do. they've got to go through in even some health even a lot of
[11:10] medications people are on some people can only take brand for certain things
[11:15] some people are on really expensive um different medications some of them
[11:21] are like$9 $10,000 a month they have to start all over with the step therapy and
[11:26] even diabetic medications they have to start over I see it every year with
[11:31] Medicare plans people when they change they have to start all over getting
[11:35] everything approved from their current plan and it would be the same thing with
[11:39] this insurance. So that's something you have to consider. And as far as
[11:44] prescription, I just can't, you know, like I said, it's the best
[11:50] plan. We found units to UPS. >> Yeah.
[11:53] » Having dealt >> and we we haven't compared, you know,
[11:58] and that's the thing. I think these gals, they can help out with all these
[12:03] issues that you're talking about and hopefully get better.
[12:08] » You just I mean, you never know. It's not It's tough to compare these
[12:13] » with the insurance companies. You don't know what it's like.
[12:16] » Well, I mean, there's been people fighting with this insurance companies,
[12:19] too.
[12:23] so much easier through this insurance company versus Musk or even the health
[12:29] insurance that the hospital had >> or you know it just
[12:34] » and that's why the state set up those health insurancees must was terrible.
[12:38] » Oh, it's horrible. Used to be one of the best in the state.
[12:42] » Yeah. But I would say >> broke like it
[12:51] » and I think you visit a few Marlene and I've had a few hiccups with ours. I've
[12:55] called Gary continues to walk this through it.
[12:59] I mean I I personally and I' I've used it. Trust me. Um I I don't have a
[13:05] complaint with the insurance that we're on. I really don't. Um, I have visited
[13:10] as much as I could with some of the other employees and everybody I've
[13:15] talked to had a serial complaint um, with what we're currently
[13:22] » and I really don't have a dog in the fight because I'm on two prescriptions
[13:26] and I can take generics, but I know a lot of people that can and how it
[13:30] affects their lives. Well, and I'm I'm two things for me. I I get and I didn't
[13:35] think of the the surgeries when you have them scheduled, then you got to go
[13:38] through pre-authorization process again. Um that's something that I didn't think
[13:43] of and I'm staring down what currently um this is going to be a little bit
[13:49] higher. I don't think the amount I think it's going to be 100 bucks a month if
[13:53] memory serves. Uh 80 to 75 to 100 bucks a month uh higher with Mo than it is
[13:59] with Jake. I know we did give probably a little bit more of a reduced rate
[14:03] because they didn't know we shop for insurance. Um my big my big thing in my
[14:09] mind right now is kind of where you're saying if it is broke don't fix it. The
[14:14] other side of me worries about the unions if we haven't notified the unions
[14:20] um are they on board with it and I talked
[14:24] to the two union stewards and I never heard back from them. So, I don't know
[14:28] if they're okay with it or not, but that could be that could be an issue with it
[14:32] as well. So, um I do wish these gals look great when they sat in here. I
[14:39] think you help them through it. Um
[14:44] I just wish we had more time to get more information. I mean, the information is
[14:48] there. Um I just wish we had the unions on board with the change and more
[14:53] employees that would voice their opinions. And I I I guess if you don't
[14:57] hear from them, you can sit and think, well, 120 employees, it it really
[15:00] doesn't matter to them, but I would like to have some information from some of
[15:04] the employees to say, "Please don't change or yes, we need to make a
[15:08] change." And I I guess I kind of lean currently with without having the unions
[15:15] on board. My my vote is to stay with JP until we get a blessing from the union
[15:20] so they can raise some havoc with us. So that's kind of where I'm at.
[15:28] » Is the coverage the same? >> What's that?
[15:31] » Is it the same coverage? >> There's what they said. They let us take
[15:34] like five plans, right? >> Yeah. As much as Yeah, they're they're
[15:38] coverable as much as you can count. Yeah. But their formulas you do, you
[15:45] know, >> they they say they're better if you're
[15:47] when you add everything together, what they give deductions on, you're going to
[15:51] come. It means on the deduct
[15:56] some are way and some are all else. Two things that stuck in my mind are two
[16:01] things that that and I view this from a personal standpoint, right? They will
[16:06] cover up to $2,000 for a dental implant. If I remember them saying correctly,
[16:12] where our insurance, JPT won't. So, if you need an implant, um, Maker would
[16:17] cover a dental implant and and and JPT won't. The other one is hearing aids.
[16:23] They have a $2,000 allowance for hearing aids where JPT doesn't. The the gist I
[16:30] got from the gals when they sat down, they're very, very comparable insurance.
[16:34] They said that there's some liability for the uh for the person through their
[16:42] prescription coverage and I know for me what I take I have never paid a dime out
[16:47] of pocket >> for any of my prescriptions. Now I have
[16:51] had to go through some specialty and and make some phone calls
[16:55] » to do. I I do know that, but I haven't seen where we have
[17:02] where I've experienced an issue with the prescriptions
[17:06] um for myself. So maybe there is for some people out there. I they just
[17:13] haven't come and said anything to me um on any of that. So
[17:18] » I would say 80% of what we dealt with had a zero copay.
[17:21] » Oh, I mean I'm copay is going to be your name brand.
[17:26] I' I've got one that comes in through a specialty pharmacy little different. I
[17:31] mean, there are some hoops to jump through to get it
[17:33] » and every insurance has those. >> Um, but it's it's I think I just
[17:38] refilled it is 1,250 bucks a month and I paid zero,
[17:41] » right? >> Um, I I I know Jerry's on some that are
[17:46] a whole lot more than that through specialty pharmacy and she pays
[17:51] couple of phone calls and you have some days when you don't feel good. It's not
[17:54] fun to deal with that. But um for me, I know I know the fight that's
[17:59] in front of me. I I know what I have. >> How to get them set up for specialty
[18:03] climacy? It's it's easier than getting it started.
[18:08] » For for me, I'm I'm afraid of the change. I'm afraid of
[18:12] » formulary change. Is it is your drug going to be on that formulary?
[18:18] » That's I guess that's where I'm at. I don't know. You got any
[18:22] just >> [clears throat]
[18:25] » was that
[18:30] so going to be
[18:36] » I don't know any other discussion >> the same like now you can basically go
[18:43] where you want to go you or will you be >> you can't even go to St.
[18:48] You don't have to go to those place. It's open to both hospitals. This
[18:53] insurance covers both places. You don't have to go to that providers.
[18:58] » Yeah. Any new open >> Yeah. You go to any that that is a
[19:04] benefit to these this group. You can you can go to vill and
[19:11] overnight stays where you could. >> Do they have any rider attached to the
[19:15] insurance? So if you have to go to a center, excellent sale pay, mileage,
[19:19] room, >> anything like that, the hospital had
[19:23] that on theirs. I know when we went out to go to a female clinic, since they're
[19:28] considered a center of excellence, even uh billings with Montana, they're
[19:35] considered a center of excellence. They'll pay your room, your mileage.
[19:40] Like if you flew out to Rochester, they'd pay your plane ticket. Oh, real.
[19:45] » Yeah. So, I don't know. >> Well, I don't I guess I never tried that
[19:50] with our insurance. I guess that was kind of
[19:53] » on ours. Just kind of by mistake hospital.
[19:56] » Uhhuh. >> Just a little rider in there. I just
[20:00] didn't know if this would have >> I don't have enough insurance knowledge
[20:04] for you to know what questions to ask, you know.
[20:07] » Um, >> do they do the vote screen?
[20:11] » They do one one health screen. They don't do they don't do the
[20:17] » they don't do the healthiest wellness but they do the it start it's similar to
[20:21] an it starts with >> starts with me
[20:24] » everybody in our office
[20:29] » it doesn't do the stuff that we have
[20:34] » doesn't but that would be something I think the
[20:38] employees are all >> all pretty like that so I think we would
[20:42] probably have to adjust to keep that program
[20:52] and JPT came out with a thing where they'll pay some of these GR1s
[21:04] and they said that from the time they got the full insurance 18 months that
[21:10] price locked ts there was something about when you go to
[21:14] a doctor's visit that didn't that under 500 or something
[21:20] did it was covered instead of having to meet your
[21:24] deductible first. I mean there was a few things that I really liked about the
[21:29] Makeo health insurance. Uh to be honest with you, I I think there was some good
[21:34] there was some good points to it. I just don't have a I
[21:39] don't have a reason to dislike GP. That's kind of where I'm at, I guess.
[21:44] So,
[21:48] any other discussion? Any other discussion?
[21:54] Seeing none, will call to the vote. All in favor signify by saying I.
[22:02] All oppose signify by saying I. I. Motion fail.
[22:09] Uh, moving on. Road department request to purchase two tractors and two mower
[22:14] attachments. Do we have a motion? Motion to approve.
[22:18] » A second. Motion second. Uh before us, I know last couple two three years. We
[22:26] have talked road foreman has talked about updating
[22:30] uh the two tractors and two mowers. Uh they're running some old 4630s, 4640
[22:37] series, some pretty old tractors and some pretty old mowers. So we have
[22:41] before us two quotes totaling uh
[22:48] 276 274,646
[22:55] and these are about a year out to to take build.
[23:00] So, this will be for two tractors equipped with two mowers. The tractors
[23:05] uh once they're built, they go right to Diamond Mowers and they get equipped
[23:10] with the mowers uh from two two reputable and two factory
[23:16] uh companies. It'll be a John Deere 6120E tractor with a 72 in side rover
[23:23] mower installed.
[23:27] Any other discussion? These are source foil bids. So they are acceptable bids
[23:32] for it. Nice.
[23:38] Any other discussion?
[23:42] » What type of mower are you getting? >> Diamond
[23:45] » 72
[23:49] » rotary, >> right?
[23:54] » Yeah.
[23:58] » Okay. Yes, we'll give you a call. Thank you.
[24:00] » Okay, any other discussion? Seeing none, we'll go for the vote. All
[24:05] in favor signify by saying I. >> Motion passed. Uh moving on, road
[24:11] department request to purchase two pickups.
[24:14] Have a motion. Make a motion to accept the two new 2027 Ram 2500 fleet price of
[24:20] 52,191 for a total of 1043
[24:25] 82 for June. 2500
[24:29] approved cab.
[24:36] Uh any discussion? >> Got a bit from high plains also, but you
[24:42] prefer the
[24:46] course we're comparable actually. I think we're a little bit lower actually.
[24:52] Um I know visiting with Derek there are some things that were getting a little
[24:57] outdated. Uh mower tractors obviously we saw that uh vehicles.
[25:03] Um we are just a side note we are three I think we're on the third season on our
[25:08] blades. Derek looked at the hours and he said we can run at least another year on
[25:13] those blades uh two instead of updating them as free if we did. I don't know
[25:18] what's coming down the line on that, but said there's a lot of life left in those
[25:22] blades. So, we can be swapping one for the other. I guess maybe not
[25:26] budgetarily, but >> yeah, it's they're separate, but it's
[25:30] the um the blades we have are all about, >> but these are these are a couple of
[25:36] things that that were needed. So, any other discussion?
[25:40] Seeing none, we'll call for the vote. All in favor?
[25:43] » Motion pass. Uh no claims. Moving on the pay raises annual pay raise for dispatch
[25:49] employee uh Deleno Ear motion
[25:54] second motion from a second. Any discussion
[25:57] needs movement to uh grade two range seven. All in favor?
[26:05] I motion passed. Uh annual pay raise for library employee Amy Heler. We have a
[26:12] motion second. Motion a second. Uh move into
[26:18] grade one, range three. Any other discussion?
[26:22] Seeing none, all in favor? Motion pass. Uh request for clerk of
[26:28] court employee Terresa Romo to move to 80% deputy. Do we have a motion?
[26:34] I'll say motion second. Uh this will be putting her to 80%
[26:40] uh deputy rate instead of range. Any other discussion?
[26:45] Seeing none, all in favor? Motion pass. No new hires, no
[26:50] additional, no new business. Is there any other business? Seeing none, I'll
[26:55] entertain a motion to close. Make a motion to close. Second motion in a
[26:59] second. We are closing.