Sep 05, 2023 City Council Meetings

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Agenda

[0:05] Call to order: City Hall Council Chamber

[2:49] 1. Review of Consent Agenda. All Consent Agenda items listed are considered to be routine by the City Council and may be enacted by one (1) motion. There will be no separate discussion of Consent Agenda items unless a City Council Member has requested that the item be discussed, in which case the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered in its normal sequence on the Regular Agenda.

[3:29] 2. Consideration of and action on Resolution No. R-3506, a Resolution authorizing the Mayor to negotiate and execute, for and on behalf of the City, an Interlocal Agreement for the Fort Bend County 2020 Mobility Project - Koeblen Road Seg. 3 - Project No. 20115, by and between the City of Rosenberg, Texas, and Fort Bend County for the construction of the project segment of Koeblen Road at the intersection of FM 2218 to the future right-of-way of Spacek Road, in an amount of fifty percent (50%) of the total project cost, or $2,050,000. (Charles Kalkomey, City Engineer)

[7:19] 3. Consideration of and action on Resolution No. R-3508, a Resolution amending the Schedule of Fees for public infrastructure plan review and inspection fees. (Joyce Vasut, Assistant City Manager)

[10:42] 4. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2023-28, an Ordinance amending the Code of Ordinances of the City of Rosenberg by amending Chapter 28, Division 2, Section 28-116 entitled, "Prohibited at any time", by designating a "No Parking" Zone on San Jacinto Street, along the west side, from Avenue H to Avenue I; providing for the installation of "No Parking" signs indicating the boundaries of the No Parking Zones; providing a penalty in an amount of not less than $1.00 nor more than $200.00 for each violation of any provision hereof; repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances inconsistent or in conflict herewith; providing for severability; and providing an effective date. (Rigo Calzoncin, Executive Director of Public Services)

[22:16] 5. Reconsideration of and action on Resolution No. R-3489, a Resolution authorizing the Mayor to execute, for and on behalf of the City, Amendment No. 1 to Development Agreement by and between the City and LGI Homes – Texas, LLC, in association with Fort Bend County Municipal Utility District No. 225 (Hallimore Ranch). (Charles Kalkomey, City Engineer)

[27:18] 6. Hold public hearing to consider comments relating to the proposed Ad Valorem Tax Rate for the Fiscal Year beginning October 01, 2023, and ending on September 30, 2024, and take action as necessary. (Luis Garza, Director of Finance)

[29:02] 7. Consideration of and action on Ordinance No. 2023-24, an Ordinance approving and adopting the City of Rosenberg, Texas, Budget for the Fiscal Year 2023-2024; making appropriations for the City for such year as reflected in said Budget; and making certain findings and containing certain provisions relating to the subject. (Luis Garza, Director of Finance)

[36:12] 10. Consideration of and action on Resolution No. R-3503, a Resolution awarding ITB No. 2023-29B for the Street Sweeping Services Contract; and authorizing the City Manager to negotiate and execute, for and on behalf of the City, appropriate documents and/or agreements regarding same. (Rigo Calzoncin, Executive Director of Public Services)

[41:49] 11. Consideration of and action on cancellation of the October 3, 2023 Regular City Council Meeting to accommodate the National Night Out activities. (Danyel Swint, City Secretary)

[47:38] 12. Consideration of and action on rescheduling the November 7, 2023 Regular City Council Meeting to accommodate election day and deadline for canvassing returns. (Danyel Swint, City Secretary)

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[0:02] All right, ladies and gentlemen, it's now 6.30 p.m. Tuesday, September of the 5th, 2023, and we'll call the meeting daughter. This time, if forever, endeavor, prohoto, Rosenberg, police, chaplain will come forward and say our invocation and pledge, please.

[0:29] Inmate decisions on the future of our city, be with all of our first responders and their families, keep them safe. And in your care, we pray in your name, amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United

[0:44] United States and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[0:54] Thank you very much, ma'am. We appreciate it.

[1:04] Good evening, Mayor and Council, at this time we will go ahead and recognize the September image committee beautification and renovation awards.

[1:12] We ask that if our property owners are present, that you please come forward whenever you see your home up on the screen.

[1:17] for landscaping beautification award. We have 1039 Mysterium Lane. Do we have

[1:24] Mike and Sandy Misner here? No, okay.

[1:30] For landscaping beautification award we

[1:32] have 5907 metaphor way. Do we have Rego Romero present?

[1:42] Inferred Innovation Award

[1:44] we have 1215 Baymore Road. Do we have Kevin Compion present?

[1:51] Okay, that'll

[1:51] complete our awards for tonight.

[2:09] All right. Next up we have our announcements,

[2:11] It's a food truck festival in downtown Rosenberg, discovered downtown Rosenberg invites you out to the food truck festival happening on Saturday, September the 16th and historic downtown Rosenberg festival.

[2:23] We begin at 11 a.m. and last until 5 p.m. in the downtown parking lot, 2221 Avenue F.

[2:30] A mission to the event is free and open to the public and come out and enjoy hope you come out and see that I think we're going to have some good talent out there this year.

[2:39] All right, the Secretary, do we have any speakers?

[2:45] All right, we'll skip the reading of the rules.

[2:48] Move into item number one, review a consent agenda.

[2:52] All consent agenda items are listed, are considered to be routine by City Council may be enacted by one motion.

[2:58] There will be no separate discussion of consent agenda items unless the City Council member has requested that the item be discussed.

[3:05] which case the item we removed from the consent agenda considered in its normal sequence of the regular agenda action from council

[3:14] Make a motion to approve consent agenda the second

[3:18] You have a motion by councilor Cassias the second by councilor Morales all those in favor. Please say aye

[3:23] All those opposed please say no

[3:26] motion carries this pass

[3:29] Moving into item number two consideration

[3:31] A resolution number R-3506, a resolution authorizing the mayor to negotiate and execute four on behalf of the city and interlocal agreement for the Fort Bend County 2020 mobility project.

[3:45] Coblin Road Section 3, project number 2115 by the 20th of the city of Rosenberg, Texas and Fort Bend County for construction of project segment.

[3:55] at Coblin Road at the intersection of FM-2218 to the future right away of

[4:01] Spotsick Road in the amount of 50% of the total project cost of $2 million, $50,000.

[4:08] Mr. Calcami.

[4:09] Thank you, Mayor and Council.

[4:10] Good to see you tonight.

[4:12] The item has been included on the agenda to allow Council the opportunity to consider approval

[4:17] of this interlocal agreement with Fort Ben County.

[4:19] according to design and construction of Coblin Road,

[4:23] Segment 3, Project Number 20115, which is included

[4:28] in the 2020 Fort Wayne County Mobility Bond issue

[4:31] and the FY2024 Capital Improvement Plan.

[4:38] This section of Coblin Road runs from 2218

[4:41] to the future Spotsick Road,

[4:43] is entirely within the city limits of the city.

[4:47] Road today is either a two lane asphalt road

[4:49] or one half of a concrete boulevard section that's been constructed by the

[4:54] sender development. The project will complete the replacement of the existing

[4:59] Tulane asphalt road and build the other two lanes of the four-lane concrete

[5:04] boulevard section and consists of concrete, curb and gutter, storm sores, sidewalks,

[5:09] and a center-raised median. Colburn Road is classified as the major

[5:13] thoroughfare on the city's major thoroughfare plan. County will manage all

[5:18] phases of the project, additionally provide mobility bond funding up to 50% of the total

[5:24] project cost. At total cost of engineering design and construction is currently estimated

[5:29] at $4.1 million and the city's portion of this is 50% or $2 million, $50,000. Funding

[5:38] is included in the FY2024 budget for this project. Resolution number R3506 authorizes the mayor

[5:46] to execute the interlocal agreement with Forbidden County,

[5:49] for the Forbidden County 2020 Mobility Project,

[5:52] Coblin Road, Segment 3, Project No. 2115,

[5:56] and the amount of 50% of the total project cost

[5:59] are $2,000,000,000,000,

[6:02] including exhibit aids of resolution.

[6:05] Staff recommends approval of Resolution R-35-0-6,

[6:08] as presented.

[6:10] All right, thank you so much, Ms. Odin.

[6:13] And no questions, I would support it.

[6:14] Okay, Mr. Parker.

[6:17] No for me.

[6:19] Okay, Mr. Travenue.

[6:21] Yes, I got a question.

[6:22] Charles, on Copeland Road, where you say there's concrete right now, there's asphalt that's not being used.

[6:29] Are we going to construct that side of where the asphalt is?

[6:32] And in all the way to, to a specific road?

[6:37] When the county gets through, it'll be a four lane boulevard all the way through.

[6:40] Okay, so whether there's two lanes of concrete today they'll add the final two lanes where there's no concrete today

[6:46] They'll put it all four lanes. Okay. I'm for it. Hey, Miss Cassias. No questions. Thank you. Mr. Morales. No questions. Thank you. Mr.

[6:54] Zapata. All right, the fraction from council.

[6:59] I make a motion to approve resolution number R 3506 as a percentage.

[7:05] All right, I'd have a first by Miss Cassias the second by Miss Utan. All those in favor. Please say aye.

[7:10] Aye.

[7:11] All those opposed, please say no.

[7:13] No.

[7:14] Okay, it's a 6-1 vote, so that passes.

[7:16] Thank you very much, sir.

[7:17] Thank you.

[7:18] All right, moving into item number three, consideration,

[7:21] actual resolution number, R3508, a resolution,

[7:25] amending the schedule of fees or public infrastructure plan,

[7:28] review, and inspection fees.

[7:31] Mr. Sutton.

[7:32] Thank you, Mayor.

[7:33] Good evening, Mayor and Council.

[7:34] At the August 22nd, 2023, City Council works up

[7:38] But meeting staff discussed the schedule of fees related to charges for public infrastructure review and inspection as required by Texas House Bill 3492 effective as of September 1, 2023 House Bill 3492 prohibits a municipality from imposing certain value based fees and requiring disclosure of certain information related to subdivision construction.

[8:04] The revisions would ensure the city is complying with House Bill 3492.

[8:12] Attached as exhibited to resolution number 3508 is a revised schedule of fees for

[8:18] public infrastructure, plan review, and inspection fees.

[8:22] Plan review fees shall be based on the hourly rate for the estimated direct time of the city's employees performing the service.

[8:30] The average hourly rate is $100 including benefits and a 10% administrative fee.

[8:38] The estimate number of direct hours for plan review must also be published.

[8:44] Inspection fees will be charged based on the actual cost assessed to the city by a third

[8:50] party entity that provides those services plus a 10% administrative fee.

[8:55] Since the inspection fee will be based on the actual amount charged by a third-party entity,

[9:01] an escrow deposit will be required for the inspection fees.

[9:04] The proposed fees will become effective upon passage, adoption of this resolution.

[9:10] Existing development agreements that include provisions for public infrastructure plan review

[9:15] and inspection fees will not be effective by this legislative change.

[9:19] Staff recommends approval of Resolution No. 3508, adopting a revised schedule fees for public infrastructure review and inspection fees as presented.

[9:30] All right, we'll start with Mr. Zapato.

[9:37] All right, Mr. Morales.

[9:39] I'm good with everything.

[9:41] All right, Ms. Cassias.

[9:42] No questions, thank you.

[9:43] All right, Mr. Trevino.

[9:45] Yes, I got a question.

[9:46] So these hours are minimum, or these are max hours that you have on here.

[9:51] It's just to start estimated hours.

[9:53] Just estimated so, for example, if somebody comes in and takes some 13 hours,

[9:58] then that's what you would charge them 13 hours, or are you going to use?

[10:01] No, they prepay it, so we're going to charge them the 20 hours.

[10:04] We're going to kind of start tracking that time a little closer.

[10:07] And if we need to come back and adjust these hours, we will.

[10:09] But the statute requires that we publish those hours ahead of time.

[10:13] Okay.

[10:14] Thank you.

[10:15] All right, Mr. Parker.

[10:17] On board.

[10:18] Okay, Ms. Uden.

[10:20] And no questions.

[10:21] All right, action from council.

[10:23] I'll make a motion to pass resolution number R-35-08.

[10:28] Second.

[10:29] Have a motion by councilor Morales, a second by councilor Uden in favor of 35-08.

[10:34] All those in favor, please say no.

[10:36] All those opposed, please say no.

[10:38] Motion carries this pass.

[10:41] All right, moving into item number four.

[10:44] Consideration of an action on ordinance number 2023-28, an ordinance amending the code of ordinances of the city of Rosenberg by mending chapter 28 in division 2 section 28-116 entitled prohibited at any time by designating a no parking zone on Saint-Jean Central Street along the west side from Avenue 8 to Avenue I providing for the installation of no parking signs indicating the boundaries of the no parking zones, providing a penalty in the amount of not less than $1

[11:13] or more than $200 for each violation of any provision here.

[11:18] Repealing all ordinances are part of ordinances inconsistent or in conflict here with providing for serviceability and providing an effective date.

[11:26] Mr. Riego.

[11:26] Thank you, Mayor and Council.

[11:28] Proposed ordinance number 2023-28 would establish no parking zone along the portion of the west side of San Jacinto Street between Avenue H and Avenue I.

[11:39] The parking prohibition is needed in order to address the ongoing public safety issue with on-street parking of large trucks and trailers in the right away.

[11:47] By establishing a parking restriction in this area, Rosenberg Police would be able to respond in a force to the no parking zone.

[11:53] Staff recommends approval of ordinance number 2023-28 as presented.

[11:58] And here's a couple of pictures that ended up taking over that area.

[12:02] You can usually see that there's always trailers and large equipment parked in the cities right away.

[12:07] All right, thank you, sir, Ms. Utan.

[12:10] And no questions, I would support it.

[12:12] Thank you, Mr. Parker.

[12:14] No.

[12:14] Thank you, Mr. Trevenio.

[12:16] Yeah, I got a couple of questions, Riggle.

[12:20] I did talk to the business and they say that now looking at these pictures,

[12:25] they say they parked there some big trucks coming in there to buy parts at the corner store for DNS.

[12:31] I spoke to the manager and they said, yeah, we need the parking during business hours.

[12:35] Can that be approved just during their business hours?

[12:39] But I can see here where you're coming from where they're not parked for buying parts.

[12:45] So I'm with you on that right there, but can we make a recommendation like if this business hour and

[12:50] you see something like that, then yes, we can give them a ticket or can we?

[12:54] I don't know, I'm asking because they're going to lose a lot of business according to their business.

[12:57] That's what they're telling me.

[12:58] understand, and I'm not sure who would actually sit there and try to enforce that to see what's business hours or what not.

[13:12] By looking at the pictures, you can tell like those people are not there for that, and they also have parking in front of their building.

[13:18] They can actually portion out a part of their parking that they have in front of their side of their business as well.

[13:23] On which side?

[13:25] On that meeting on the on the opposite end of the road in front of their business.

[13:31] Yeah, but you'll block the cars coming in there if you got a big 18 wheeler.

[13:34] I mean, I'm with you on that right here.

[13:36] I'm all forward that right there.

[13:38] I do agree with you there.

[13:39] But what about like, for example, but somebody with a big 18 wheeler comes in and

[13:44] just wants to buy a park for 30 minutes, 40 minute park.

[13:48] How can we say there's they stopped there just to buy a park?

[13:51] How can you handle that?

[13:52] I mean, how will we handle that?

[13:54] I know we have other locations where it's only like a one hour parking or something to that effect.

[14:02] I think we have something like that downtown where it's a two hour maximum parking.

[14:06] I'm pretty sure that the business will like that.

[14:09] They will consider that if we can do that, I think they'll be grateful and

[14:14] try to see monitor that and if it doesn't work out then I will support the no parking in the future.

[14:19] I think we need to give them a chance, just a thought.

[14:22] And just from a legal standpoint, there's no issue with making it no parking for

[14:27] a specific time of day, say, you can park there from 8 to 5 or

[14:32] something along those lines, or to put a 15, 30 hour limit on vehicles being parked there.

[14:39] It's just really up to council.

[14:41] Can we, can we table this and have a review?

[14:45] Or what do you guys, I mean, I'm suggesting,

[14:47] I don't want to let it go down the line before start making a motion, please.

[14:52] Ms. Cassias?

[14:53] I mean, I understand the comments you're making, Councillor Chiming, but I mean, driving through there.

[15:00] These pictures really show who is parking there. They're not parking big trucks, because when I've gone on there, it's just small cars parked there, trailers parked there. And, you know, we have to that part of the road is to city right away or that property owner on the other side. If it was, you know, just trailers pulling in to buy supplies and leaving. I don't think we would be we would be having this issue

[15:29] that clearly is there right now, so I think that it is something action does need to be taken on this.

[15:36] And putting it just between eight and five, that's not going to address the issue right now,

[15:41] because that's during the time that those cars are there.

[15:44] In the evening, they're not there, they're gone.

[15:47] I've got a question for after let's finish going down.

[15:50] Yeah, that's come back, please.

[15:51] Thank you.

[15:52] So I'm in support of the no parking.

[15:54] All right, Mr. Morales.

[15:55] I've also seen some pictures that are more dramatic than what you have on the screen right now.

[16:03] They're asking for specific hours for parking there.

[16:09] I've seen up to three or four trucks on the side of that Obingo place,

[16:17] and they don't move overnight, they stay there.

[16:20] Also over here where you have the trailer by itself,

[16:23] They're putting trailers in the private property of wine garden leasing. I've called wine garden leasing and they are totally against it because that is their property.

[16:36] And I feel for DNS because it is a business that's growing as you'll see that on Avenue.

[16:45] new J and Avenue H and Avenue I. There's a multitude. I'm going to say 15 trailers and

[16:59] maybe 10 trucks. And like I say, you know, I feel for them, but they're in a business

[17:08] that requires a lot of parking space. And I'm not for obstructing people's businesses.

[17:15] They have to make a living, but then also that area and picture number one with the slanted

[17:22] Carry-all that is city property that is not

[17:27] Wine Garden property, but that is an easement and

[17:32] If you're going south on

[17:35] San Jacinto

[17:37] You have to inch up and inch up to look to the right on avenue i before you can navigate or

[17:45] uh, go across or turn on uh, Avenue uh, a, let's see, I uh, again, I uh, there is a

[17:58] no parking area on Ward Street that doesn't affect anything or any business and uh, people

[18:09] Okay, in part there, this obviously obstructs a lot of city property and I am for the restriction of the no parking sign.

[18:18] All right, thank you so much, Mr. Zapata.

[18:39] Turn your mic on.

[18:41] On the opposite side.

[18:45] All right, back to you, Mr. Vingham.

[18:47] Yeah, I'm going to guess I'm going to go to the turning.

[18:50] Can you say no cars parking?

[18:53] Can we just say, certain like I do agree on the cars, it could be parked on this side.

[19:00] But can we just say give it not I'm asking I don't know it as opposed so like say no 18 wheelers can park

[19:05] There that sort of thing or yellow say no cars. You know just 18 willers for an hour 30 minutes

[19:10] Can we say that? I'm just just trying to think you know

[19:14] Thinking about the business that's all I'm thinking. Yeah, I don't think there would be anything to prevent it

[19:17] Typically that goes the other way, you know, you'll allow cars but not allow 18 wheelers

[19:22] But I don't think there would be anything to prevent it

[19:26] Who's monitoring 30 minutes for an hour? I mean

[19:31] Like that one picture with just no no tractor trailer, I get somebody a hollet.

[19:38] I agree with, with a reo on that.

[19:42] Commissioner Vain, are you going to make a motion to table or are you going to make a motion to table or are you going to make an

[19:48] motion to amend the ordinance?

[19:50] I'm going to make a motion to table this and have it on the next meeting.

[19:54] So we have a motion on the table for a table.

[19:57] Anybody else to second it?

[20:02] I have a motion by Councillor Chabinio to table the ordinance, a second by Mr. Zapata.

[20:10] All those in favor of that, please say aye.

[20:12] Aye.

[20:13] Aye.

[20:15] So I have three ayes.

[20:16] All those against that, please say no.

[20:18] No.

[20:19] How did you vote, Ms. Yuton?

[20:27] I'll vote no.

[20:29] No.

[20:29] Okay.

[20:29] Three to four to leave it alive.

[20:31] So now looking for action from Council on making a motion.

[20:35] I make a motion to make a motion that we amend the ordinance to have a maximum of two-hour parking and that strip.

[20:47] All right, can you restate the, put the ordinance in there, please?

[20:52] Would you specify, please?

[20:54] Hold on, hold on, she's got the floor.

[20:56] So, specify what?

[20:57] Rocks are the hardest.

[20:58] Hold on, isn't it?

[20:59] No, not just all vehicles have a maximum of two hours parking limit.

[21:03] On ordinance number what ordinance number twenty twenty three dash twenty eight to have two hours of parking

[21:11] Yes, maximum. Okay. I have a motion on the table for

[21:15] Motion on the table. I need a second. I'll second it. All right. We have a motion by Councillor ootin and a second by Councillor Chavino

[21:23] For ordinance number twenty twenty three dash twenty eight for a two-hour

[21:28] or maximum parking?

[21:32] Yes.

[21:32] And no overnight parking?

[21:34] Does that fit?

[21:35] No overnight.

[21:37] No overnight as well?

[21:41] Correct.

[21:42] Can you restate it just for the record?

[21:44] Make a motion to, for ordinance 2023-28,

[21:48] have a maximum of two-hour parking

[21:51] and no overnight parking.

[21:53] And I'll second that.

[21:54] We still have a second by Councilor Tavenio.

[21:56] All those in favor of that, please say aye.

[21:58] Aye.

[21:58] All those opposed to that, please say no.

[22:00] No.

[22:01] So that's four, three on that motion passes with the amendment to it.

[22:06] Since that is an ordinance, it'll have to come back for

[22:08] a second reading since we didn't have an affirmative vote of five.

[22:11] That sounds great.

[22:11] Thank you, sir.

[22:16] Move into ordinance number five.

[22:19] Reconsideration, action on resolution number three, four, eight, nine,

[22:22] a resolution authorizing the mayor to execute four.

[22:25] And on behalf of the city, amendment number one, to development agreement

[22:28] by and between the city and LGI Homes, Texas, LLC and association with Fort Bend County Municipal

[22:35] Utility District number 225, Hollamore Ranch, Mr. Calcamy.

[22:40] Thank you, Mayor and Council. On August 15th, City Council made the first motion to approve

[22:46] resolution R3489 and that failed by a vote of 3 to 4. Air after City Council made a second motion

[22:55] to approve resolution R3489 without the amendments

[23:00] to the lot sizes and road alignment,

[23:03] and that motion passed by a vote of five to two.

[23:07] In accordance with City Council rules of procedure,

[23:10] Councilor Mark Morales has requested this item

[23:12] to be placed back onto the agenda for reconsideration.

[23:17] In order to reconsider the first motion

[23:19] of resolution number R3489,

[23:22] a motion to reconsider was first

[23:24] be made by a council member who either voted with the majority or who was absence.

[23:30] In this case, council members Keith Parker, George Sepada, Mark Morales, and that renewal

[23:36] were in the majority votes and are eligible to make the required motion which can be seconded

[23:40] by any other member.

[23:42] If the motion to reconsider is approved to the council, may then proceed to again consider and

[23:48] take action on resolution number R3489 as originally presented to council.

[23:55] If the motion to reconsider is not approved or dies for a lack of second resolution

[24:00] number R3489 will not be discussed or acted upon.

[24:05] Okay, so right now I need a motion which we're assuming councilor Morales is making the motion

[24:10] to reconsider.

[24:11] Is that correct?

[24:13] Yes.

[24:13] Okay, I'll make a motion to reconsider resolution number 3489 and resolution authorizing the mayor and execute on the half of the city.

[24:23] All right, we're looking for a second with that motion.

[24:26] Second.

[24:26] No, I think Parker, Trevino, anybody want a second?

[24:31] It can be anybody, mayor.

[24:32] So you gave me a second, my suit.

[24:34] I have a motion by Councillor Morales, the second by Councillor Ooten.

[24:37] All those in favor to reconsider, please say aye.

[24:39] Aye.

[24:40] Aye.

[24:41] All those against, please say no.

[24:42] No, I think I heard three-nose, four-three, so the motion passes.

[24:48] Now we can have it.

[24:49] Now we can have it.

[24:50] Okay, thank you.

[24:51] We've been through this a few times.

[24:54] And the major issues are the realignment of Stellarode through the development in

[25:01] order that the counties, the College of Alignment of Stellar, does not create an offset intersection.

[25:09] And the developer is willing to do that.

[25:11] on the condition that he can have 104 lots that are 50 foot wide instead of the original 55 feet wide.

[25:20] The other issues that were approved at the last meeting have to do with the county escrowing plums with the county,

[25:27] the billed cottonwood school road and cottonwood church road.

[25:33] Any questions?

[25:35] I'm going to speak in favor of it just because I think one of the arguments that came out was we were only doing this for a few homes, but if you look at Cottonwood School Road, there's several subdivisions platted along that road, and I think if we take the time now and fix it right, we're not dealing with a major problem later on when all these other subdivisions develop, but I'm in favor of moving forward with it, but we'll start with Ms. Utan and see what her thoughts are.

[26:04] I agree with you, Mayor, and I believe it's a matter of safety.

[26:07] And I would support the going through the property and aligning the road correctly.

[26:15] All right, Mr. Parker.

[26:17] No, I'm not in favor of moving on.

[26:20] All right, thank you, Mr. D'Venio.

[26:22] No, I'm not in favor.

[26:23] Thank you, Ms. Cassias.

[26:24] Yes, I'm in favor.

[26:25] All right, thank you, Mr. Males.

[26:27] I think we understand your view.

[26:28] Yes, I am in favor of it.

[26:29] All right, and Mr. Zapata?

[26:31] I'm out of favor of this. I've never wanted it to begin.

[26:36] Right. All right. So now we need action to on resolution number R3489.

[26:43] The original resolution. All right.

[26:44] Need a motion for the original resolution or resolution number R3489.

[26:49] I move approval of resolution R3489.

[26:53] Okay.

[26:53] Second.

[26:54] I have a motion by Councillor Cassias, a second.

[26:57] I mean, correction. Councilor Utan, the second by Councillor Cassias.

[27:00] All those in favor of that motion, please say aye.

[27:02] All right.

[27:03] All those opposed to that motion, please say no.

[27:05] No, no, no.

[27:06] Three, I got four three on that vote, so that passes.

[27:10] Does that still need to come back for another reading?

[27:12] It does not because it's a resolution as opposed to an ordinance.

[27:15] Okay, thank you so much.

[27:16] Thank you.

[27:17] All right, moving into item number six.

[27:19] Whole public hearing to consider commitments relating to the proposed ad velorum tax rate

[27:26] with the physical year beginning October 1st, 2023, and ending on September 30th, 2024, and take action as necessary.

[27:34] Mr. Clark, thank you, Mayor.

[27:38] Chapter 26 of the property tax code requires the taxing units complied with the truth and taxation laws during the tax rate adoption process.

[27:46] These laws were designated to make taxpayers aware of tax rate proposals and to provide an avenue for comment.

[27:52] On August 8th, 2023, City Council set the public hearing date for today, Tuesday, September

[27:58] 5th at 6.30 to receive public comment regarding the proposed Advilorum tax rate for the

[28:03] fiscal year beginning October 1, 2023 and ending September 30th, 2024.

[28:08] The attached notice of public hearing on tax increase states that a tax rate of 35 cents

[28:13] per 100 dollar valuation has been proposed for adoption.

[28:16] This required notice was published in the Forbidden Herald newspaper on August 17th to give the public the proper notification.

[28:24] The vote to adopt the tax rate will be on a subsequent agenda item.

[28:28] Staff recommends the public hearing be open at this time.

[28:30] All right, this time we'll open the public hearing for public comment.

[28:42] Item still open for public comment.

[28:50] Know somebody's fixing to walk through the door, any minute.

[28:56] All right, this time we'll close the public hearing for this deal.

[29:02] We'll move into item number seven, consideration of action on ordinance number 2023-24 in ordinance of proving and adopting city of Rosenberg, Texas budget for the physical year 2023-2024, making appropriations for the city for such year as reflected in said budget and make certain findings and containing certain provisions relating to sub-subject Mr. Garza.

[29:25] I think a mere ordinance number 2023-24 provides a city council with opportunity to consider adopting the fiscal year 2324 budget as prepared and presented by staff.

[29:36] The proposed operating budget as shown in the combined budget summary attest as exhibit eight ordinance number 2023-24.

[29:45] Appropriates amounts necessary to fund city operations, including the general fund, special revenue funds, the debt service fund, capital improvement funds, enterprise funds.

[29:54] Internal Service and the Rosemaric Development Corporation Fund for fiscal year 2020.

[30:00] This budget as presented in exhibit A is based on the proposed fiscal year 24 budget that was originally presented to city council in August the first and discussed at the August 8 budget workshop and the August 22nd, special city council meetings. The budget includes a proposed tax rate of 35 cents. State law requires that the budget be adopted prior to the tax rate being adopted. Staff recommends approve of ordinance 2023-24, providing for and adopting the city of Rosenberg, Texas budget for

[30:29] fiscal year 2023, 2024.

[30:33] To approve ordinance number 2023-24, it will be necessary for City Council to take a record vote.

[30:39] All right, thank you for some of the speak on.

[30:41] And I just want to say thank you to staff that worked hard putting your budgets together and thank you, Mr.

[30:47] Garza, for the fine work you do and Mr. Sout for the fine work that you guys do and the tireless time you put in on this budget.

[30:54] We really appreciate your hard work.

[30:55] I'll quit blabbering and let Miss Utan speak on this if she would like.

[31:00] I have no comments, I would support the budget.

[31:03] Okay.

[31:04] Thank you, Mr. Parker.

[31:05] No, I would not support.

[31:07] All right.

[31:08] Thank you, Mr. Gavinio.

[31:09] No, I won't support it because I remember I was suggesting a 32 cents, which is I think

[31:16] you, we hit the mat, there was a 1.2 million difference.

[31:20] I think we're going to get that 1.2 million with the epic center coming.

[31:26] with sales tax and stuff and our price homes went up.

[31:29] I think we'll have that 1.2 million here in the future, so I'm not for it.

[31:33] Okay, thank you, Ms. Cassias.

[31:34] I mean, support.

[31:36] Thank you very much, Mr. Morales.

[31:38] I'm for it.

[31:39] Thank you very much, Mr. Zapata.

[31:41] I'm not for it.

[31:41] All right, great job.

[31:43] All right, Mr. Mayor.

[31:44] Before we take a vote, there's a couple comments I'd like to make.

[31:47] So, this item is actually to vote on the budget, not on the tax rate.

[31:53] If there are specific things in the budget you don't like, we can change that.

[31:58] We cannot, and this is all state law, we cannot vote on the tax rate tonight if we don't

[32:03] approve the budget with five votes.

[32:06] If we can't vote on the tax rate tonight because we don't approve the budget first, then we'll

[32:11] have to have a special meeting next Tuesday because the tax rate has to be voted on within

[32:16] in seven days of the public hearing on the tax rate,

[32:20] which was the previous item on this agenda.

[32:22] So the latest that we could vote on the tax rate

[32:24] would be next Tuesday,

[32:28] which would mean therefore we'd have to have

[32:29] a special meeting.

[32:30] So I just wanted to point that out

[32:32] that this item votes on the budget, not the tax rate.

[32:36] If there's changes, you want to recommend to the budget

[32:39] at this time.

[32:40] Can you change the tax rate from 35 to 32 cents?

[32:43] And we can adopt a tax rate anywhere less than 35 cents based on what we've done up until this day on my port then.

[32:53] So if item seven doesn't get five votes, then eight and nine.

[32:57] We cannot do eight and nine tonight and then state law would require a special meeting next Tuesday.

[33:03] That's exactly right, it's going to be within seven days of the public hearing and we would have to announce the date and time of the meeting where the tax rate will be voted on tonight.

[33:12] Okay, all right. So let's start with the roll call vote. We'll begin with Miss Utan. Yes. Yes, Mr. Parker.

[33:22] No, okay, Mr. Travino. No, Miss Cassias. Yes. All right, range is a yes. Mr. Marrales. Yes, and

[33:33] Mr. Zapata. No, okay, so that's a four-three vote. So that dies right here.

[33:41] So do we need now to make a motion for next Tuesday or how do we go to that next level?

[33:52] So we will now, yes, need to set a date and time for the vote on the tax rate and as

[34:01] Joyce said, it's got to be within seven days.

[34:04] So well, within seven days of the day after.

[34:07] So next Tuesday would be fine or anytime there before.

[34:12] So Tuesday, what day is that, please?

[34:14] That would be the 12th.

[34:16] 12th at 6.30 p.m., all

[34:22] right, looking for someone to make that motion for us, please.

[34:26] I'd like to make a motion to do a such and have the tax rate approved or voted on next Tuesday the 12th of September.

[34:37] Excuse me, I want to make sure we clarify the tax rate or the budget.

[34:41] It is the tax rate.

[34:43] Tax rate?

[34:44] Yes sir.

[34:44] So we needed a motion for Tuesday, the 12th, 2023 at 6.30 PM to vote on tax rate.

[34:52] And we do also need the location, which of course would be here with it, that does need to be announced as well.

[34:59] All right, could you please state all that in that motion, Mr. Morales?

[35:03] Yes, I did include that, the tax rate and not the budget.

[35:06] I get that, but you got to state the location of the.

[35:08] Okay, we'll have it next Tuesday, the 12th of September.

[35:15] We're here at this venue.

[35:19] 21, 10, 4th Street, Rosenberg, Texas.

[35:21] That's true.

[35:22] All right, thank you.

[35:23] I don't live here, so I don't know the address.

[35:26] It's all you do.

[35:27] So we have a motion by Councillor Morales, I need a second on that, please.

[35:31] Second.

[35:32] I have a motion by Councillor Morales, a second by Councillor Uten, all those in favor of

[35:36] Tuesday, 12, 23, at 6.30 p.m. at 21, 24th Street, please say yes.

[35:42] Yes.

[35:43] All those opposed to that, please say no.

[35:46] So I'm assuming that's anonymous, because I didn't hear on this end, and I didn't hear.

[35:50] So seven votes on that.

[35:53] Now, how do I table eight and nine, or how do we do this?

[36:01] Well, really, they can't be reconsidered.

[36:03] So we can just skip past those, and they'll come back to that meeting on the 12th.

[36:08] So I can just move right into 10.

[36:10] All right, thank you so much.

[36:12] Item number 10, consideration,

[36:14] an actual resolution number R3503,

[36:17] a resolution awarding ITB number 2023 to 2023-29B

[36:22] for the Street Sweeping Service Contract

[36:24] and authorizing the city manager

[36:26] to negotiate and execute for on behalf of the city,

[36:29] appropriate documents and our agreements regarding same.

[36:33] Mr. Rigo.

[36:34] Thank you, Mayor and Council on Thursday,

[36:36] As a August 3rd, 2023, bid received an open response to ITB number 2023-29B for

[36:44] street sweeping services contract.

[36:47] The notice of bidders was published in the Fortburn Herald.

[36:49] The bid documents and technical specifications were posted on the city's EEP procurement portal.

[36:55] And notifications were sent to 140 registered vendors.

[36:58] A total of two bidged received, a copy of the bid summary form is included for your review.

[37:03] Of the two bidders, staff recommends, yes, America now incorporated, who submitted the lowest annual bid which includes the base bid and an alternate bid in an amount, excuse me, in a total annual amount of $111,986.040 cents.

[37:22] The base bid includes 12 monthly street sweeping cycles covering $128.41 per mile is at $60 per mile.

[37:30] the alternate bid item, including four additional streets we've been cycles typically during the months of November through February we're covering $81.3 a curbal that $60 a curbal.

[37:41] This bidder would service Rosenberg from its staff at office.

[37:46] The initial annual contract term is from October 1st, 2023 through September 30th, 2024, with the option to renew for one additional one year term, if mutually agreed to the firm in the city.

[37:58] The references for US America now incorporate a check and fund acceptable for this type of work and

[38:03] quantity work specified in the contract.

[38:05] Additionally, US America now ain't provided street street sweeping services to the city and the past and such services was acceptable.

[38:14] Staff recommends approval resolution number R-3503 awarding ITB number 2023-29B to US America now ink for

[38:24] streets sweeping services contract to commence October 1st, 2023 and expire September 30th, 2024

[38:31] for the base bid and alternate bid in a total annual amount of $111,986.40 with the option to

[38:38] renew for one additional one year term if mutually agreed. Should City Council Ward said contract

[38:43] has recommended the contract proposal will be attached to service exhibit 8 resolution number

[38:49] or 3503.

[38:51] It's a question I got, Mr. Mars, we really can't vote on this one because it starts the 2023-2024 budget.

[38:58] So how can we approve something if we don't know what we're going to spend?

[39:03] That's a good point.

[39:05] Yeah, so you want to, you can table this item or approve it contingent on the budget being approved.

[39:11] But then, I mean, we don't know where our budget is going to fall now.

[39:17] So I mean, I hate approving something contingent on.

[39:20] I mean, it's a dead issue, but we'll see what Council seems to think.

[39:25] Ms. Odin.

[39:26] I think it'll be best to consider it next Tuesday with the other items.

[39:32] Okay, all right, Mr. Parker.

[39:34] I'm sorry, I think Mr. Dravenia.

[39:37] I agree.

[39:37] Mrs. Cassias.

[39:39] I'm mayor, I agree with what you're saying, but one of the things that, you know, we didn't approve a budget.

[39:44] But Councilor Turingio is saying that we're going to make up the monies in the epic center or the growth in the city with new property.

[39:53] But if we're going to make up the money, why didn't you approve the budget?

[39:57] So that is like, did make sense to me, but I totally agree that there's nothing that we can do at this point in time.

[40:04] Our residents want quality services, they want us to provide this, but

[40:08] We can't because some Council representatives aren't doing their, the job that they were elected for.

[40:15] All right, thank you, Mr. Morales.

[40:19] There would concur with the Councilperson, Mrs. Cassias, you cannot count a bird in the hand and two in the bush.

[40:28] What if something happens and there is a delay in the opening, there is scheduling problems with the venues?

[40:36] So many things can happen.

[40:39] I'm not a fortune teller that I can look at a crystal ball and say yes we're going to get all this money from the epic center.

[40:51] You can not reasonably do that, but I was focused on this instead of that, and then so I just want to hear your comments about do you think we're premature on a 2023-2024 budget?

[41:02] You didn't stop her, sir.

[41:05] Well, I mean, we're beating a dead horse.

[41:07] I mean, we're trying to approve a piece of a budget that we couldn't approve all

[41:10] ago.

[41:11] So I was elected to do that.

[41:13] And you spoke, sir.

[41:14] Mr. Zapata.

[41:16] I'll go and just go ahead and just wait until as well.

[41:20] All right.

[41:20] I'm going to put a motion on the table to table until Tuesday.

[41:24] Can we do the table at Tuesday or do we are Tuesday?

[41:27] You can.

[41:27] Okay.

[41:28] Okay, I make a motion to table until Tuesday, whatever it is.

[41:33] Looking for a second, who do I get that from?

[41:37] Okay, I've got a motion to table by reigns, a second by Utton.

[41:40] All those in favor of that, please say aye.

[41:42] All those opposed to that, please say no, motion carries.

[41:47] All right, moving into item number 11, consideration on action on cancellation of the October 3rd, 2023 regular city council meeting.

[41:54] Can you accommodate the national night out activities in the swim?

[41:58] Thank you, Mayor.

[41:59] As in years past, the first regular City Council meeting in October has been canceled to allow for the members of the City Council to attend national night out events that are planned in the city.

[42:08] This item provides an opportunity for City Council to discuss and take action on the proposed cancellation of the October 3rd regular City Council meeting to accommodate attendance at national night out events.

[42:19] All right, I'm going to go back to Miss Swin, I mean, I miss a suit on this.

[42:28] So September the 12th, we have to approve a budget.

[42:32] Yes.

[42:34] Right, if we don't, what happens if we're in the same grid light we're in?

[42:38] And I'm just trying to, we're going to cancel October 3rd meeting that we don't know.

[42:42] So Mayor, I think I can answer that if the, you've got to adopt the tax rate budget, budget first then tax rate by September 29th.

[42:54] Okay.

[42:55] And if it's not adopted by then, you default to the lower of last year's rate or the no new revenue rate, which last year's rate would be lower I believe.

[43:07] No, no, no revenue rate would be lower.

[43:09] Okay, so it would default to the lesser of those and then that has to be ratified within five days so that potentially could impact that October 3rd meeting.

[43:23] So we've got the 12th, the 19th, and the 26th to keep coming back over this budget.

[43:29] That's right, it's just got to be adopted by the September 29th.

[43:33] It comes September the 29th, if we don't come to terms and agreement, it's going to roll to the-

[43:39] It'll default to lower of last year's rate or no new revenue rate.

[43:44] But then it must be ratified even after a D.

[43:47] So we'll may have to do that on the third?

[43:50] Dendtually.

[43:51] I mean, that's the way I see it.

[43:55] Because I don't think we'll come to agreement, get five votes between now and

[43:59] then and an October the third when we're talking about taking off.

[44:03] Just to clarify, the budget only needs four votes next week, because I'll be a second reading and two readings with four votes would pass the budget.

[44:12] So it's next, the twelfth would be the second reading and four votes.

[44:16] With four votes, the budget will pass, and then we can move on to start discussing the tax rate.

[44:21] What are we going to have to have?

[44:23] We have to have 60% on the tax rate, and then everything Brandon said then applies.

[44:27] If we don't get 60% on the tax rate, it will revert to the no-new revenue rate, which is the lower of the two.

[44:35] Okay, I'm not being difficult because I just want to understand.

[44:39] So the 12th, we're going to have it a reading, and if we're blessed to have a 4-3 vote again, then it'll pass.

[44:45] The budget would pass.

[44:46] And then we're going to deal with the automate nine that we didn't do before.

[44:51] Correct.

[44:52] That's the first reading of the 12.

[44:54] We can ratify the budget on four votes.

[44:56] That would be the first item. The second other item would be the tax rate.

[45:00] Okay. That would require 60%. And if we don't get 60% on the 12th, we can go to the 19. You can. Okay. You've got until the 29 to approve it. So if it fails, if it fails on the 12th, then it could come back at the next meeting. The 19, which would be the. Yes. And then it still needs 60%. It does. If it's going to exceed the no new revenue rate. And then what if we don't get five votes, 60% on the 19?

[45:29] 18th we got to come back on the 26th. Then you could adopt a yes, you could adopt

[45:37] a rate that is lower than one that exceeds the no-new revenue rate. You wouldn't need

[45:43] 60% in that case, but actually for the no-new revenue rate, you don't need 60% for the

[45:51] no-new revenue rate. You only need majority. That's right. I'm sorry if I'm

[45:55] If it exceeds the no-new revenue rate is when you need the 60 percent, if it's no-new revenue or lower, so you just need a majority.

[46:02] On the 19th in theory, we could be voting on the no-new revenue.

[46:06] Actually on the 12th, if the proposed rate of 35 cents does not pass by five votes, we then could have a motion to adopt the no-new revenue rate and it can pass by four votes.

[46:20] Because it only needs five votes if it's greater than the no-new revenue rate.

[46:24] Okay, so 12th we've got you I just want to make sure we wouldn't vote in a way that a day we may have to use for

[46:31] War of voting on the

[46:33] Budget and everything. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm just looking when you begin. I would be in favor of that

[46:38] But if we need to meet on the following

[46:42] The second Tuesday to make up for that. I'm all for that. All right. Thank you, Mr. Parker. I

[46:49] Am in favor of that

[46:50] All right, Mr. Venio.

[46:52] Board.

[46:53] Ms. Cassias.

[46:55] I'm in support.

[46:56] Mr. Morales.

[46:58] Yes.

[46:59] All right, Mr. Zapata.

[47:00] I like that.

[47:01] Hey, Mr. Look for action from council.

[47:08] I make a motion to, I make a motion for the cancellation of October 3rd, 2023, regular City

[47:21] Council meeting.

[47:23] Okay, you may have a second on that, please.

[47:25] Second.

[47:26] I have first by Councillor Cassias for Council of the October 3rd meeting, a second by Councillor

[47:31] Uten.

[47:32] All those in favor, please say aye.

[47:33] Aye.

[47:34] All those opposed, please say no.

[47:36] Motion carries.

[47:38] All right.

[47:38] Moving in to item 12, consideration and action on rescheduling the November 7, 2023 regular

[47:43] city council meeting to accommodate election day and deadline for canvassing returns.

[47:48] Ms. Wint.

[47:49] Thank you, Mayor.

[47:49] At the August 15th, regular City Council meeting, City Council approved ordinance number 2023-20, ordering a special election for the purpose of submitting to the qualified voters for adoption of rejection and proposed amendments to the existing homeless charter and ordinance number 2023-23, ordering a bond election to submit two propositions to qualified voters of the city of Rosenberg.

[48:12] The special and bond elections will be held on Tuesday, November 7th.

[48:16] The council chambers at Rosenberg City Hall will be a polling location on election day.

[48:21] The November 7th election day conflicts with the regular city council meeting.

[48:25] In addition, section 67.003B of the election code states,

[48:31] the local canvassing authority shall convene to conduct the local canvas at the time set by the canvassing authorities presiding officer.

[48:37] not later than the 11th day after election and not earlier than the later of one, the third day after election day.

[48:45] Therefore, the first official day to Canvas results is Friday, November 10th, and the last day to Canvas is Saturday, November 18th.

[48:54] Because canvassing must occur before the next regular City Council meeting on November 21st.

[48:58] The item gives Council the opportunity to reschedule the November 7th regular City Council meeting to Tuesday, November 14th.

[49:06] To meet this deadline for canvassing and eliminate the conflict with the election date.

[49:10] Staff recommends the regular City Council meeting date of November 7th be moved to Tuesday, November 14th.

[49:18] All right, thank you, ma'am.

[49:19] Just open it up for general comment if anyone wishes to make a comment and do so at this time.

[49:27] No comment, no comments, please make a motion.

[49:30] Make a motion to reschedule on November 7th meeting to the following Tuesday.

[49:36] Second.

[49:36] have a motion by Councilor Utan, the second by Councilor Cassias, all those in favor, please say aye.

[49:41] All right.

[49:42] All those opposed, please say no.

[49:44] Motion carries is passed.

[49:47] Is that good enough, Mr. Attorney?

[49:49] All right, thank you.

[49:50] Item 13, hold executive session to consult with City Attorney to seek or receive advice on legal matters related to a contract with Gulf Coast Water Authority pursuant to Section 551.071 of the Texas Government Code and to deliberate the potential purchase.

[50:06] Exchanges, lease, or vague of real property related to the Spotchick Road,

[50:10] drainage channel, pursuant to section 551.072 of the Texas Government Code.

[50:16] Looking for action from Council.

[50:18] Motion to adjourn.

[50:20] Second.

[50:20] I have a motion by Councillor Oot and the second by Councillor Trevinio.

[50:24] All those in favor, please say aye.

[50:25] Aye.

[50:26] All those opposed, please say no.

[50:27] Thank you very much, we'll be right back.

[50:39] All right, this time we'll adjourn the executive session, reconvene regular session.

[50:42] to take action is necessary as a result of executive session.

[50:46] This time there's no action to be made.

[50:48] We'll move into item number 15 need a motion to adjourn.

[50:53] Before adjournment, I'd like to get a legal opinion

[50:57] before the council.

[51:00] How much time do elected members have to speak on the diocese

[51:08] as per the three-minute allotted to the citizens

[51:12] Mr. Sub-Rosanberg.

[51:14] Give me just one second to pull that out.

[51:16] So the time for council members to speak

[51:20] would actually be under the council rules

[51:22] that have been adopted.

[51:24] The three minutes only applies to the public.

[51:28] It'll

[51:32] open.

[51:53] Sorry, give me just one second here.

[52:24] Okay, so the rule for council members says

[52:28] right to the floor, any member of city council

[52:30] desiring to speak, shall be recognized

[52:32] by the mayor and she'll can find his or her remarks to the subject under consideration.

[52:37] No member shall speak more than once on a question until every member wishing to speak as spoken.

[52:43] So really the rule is just that each council member is given an opportunity to speak.

[52:49] Okay, my purpose for trying to address the council in a formal atmosphere is that if any calls are made to certain people,

[53:00] or any council persons a side or outside of this environment it could be

[53:06] construed as pandering or deal making or block voting okay and I believe that I

[53:14] would love to talk to some of the council members but you know you were

[53:19] restricted you can't be trying to buy a vote or so far publicly like this I'm

[53:25] I'm not buying a vote.

[53:26] I can express my opinion as far as I believe the people

[53:31] have elected me to reform, correct?

[53:35] I also had adamant that not one person

[53:38] can be allotted an extra attachment

[53:42] to their vote or their yes or no vote

[53:46] and the other person cannot be in myself.

[53:49] And then this is not the first time today.

[53:52] That's what I want to clarification on.

[53:54] And that's what I wanted to explain to all the council members.

[53:57] I should have that opportunity to say, don't count the bird in your hand, and then expect to get to because you never know what's going to happen.

[54:08] You never know.

[54:09] And as far as the ethics and going to this concern, yes, it will be something special for us.

[54:17] But if you vote no on this budget or the tax rate you're just hoping that nothing

[54:25] catastrophically happens.

[54:27] Who can say, who can be a fortune teller and say, oh, we're going to get all this money?

[54:34] I'm sorry, we get a little off track on the point of order was, you could write it.

[54:41] I cut me off because he said he didn't want to be little or extend the extra comments.

[54:47] I understand, we can't get back into budget and tax rate just because that's already being considered.

[54:52] But you know, your point of order that is what the rule says and we just kind of have to leave it at that for now.

[54:59] Okay, well, that's that's my concurrence that if you're going to cut me off the other person that spoke first should be cut off.

[55:07] That's all.

[55:08] Thank you.

[55:09] That's all I'm asking.

[55:10] Thank you.

[55:10] I feel like I've been fair, but it's not.

[55:12] I will make that right next time.

[55:13] Well, you're listening to the phone.

[55:14] Thank you, sir.

[55:16] We're going to get back on subject.

[55:17] I'll make a motion for adjournment.

[55:19] Perfect.

[55:19] You need a second on that?

[55:20] I have a first and a second.

[55:21] All those in favor, please say aye.

[55:23] Aye.

[55:24] All those opposed, please say no.

[55:26] Thank you very much.

[55:27] Have a great night.