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[0:02] So we're going to tune in a minute. I don't know what happened there.
[0:08] Okay.
[0:09] That's there.
[0:10] I'm sorry.
[0:10] I'm sorry.
[0:13] I'm not caught today. I also was cheaper in P.A. when I left than here.
[0:17] That never happens.
[0:24] Okay.
[0:25] So we're hoping that you give us a summary on how our landfill update is going.
[0:34] And let us know how close we are to being completed.
[0:42] Yeah, for sure.
[0:44] So ideally, the project would have been finished last year.
[0:49] And that's what the schedule was to be done for a week at the end of September.
[0:55] We always know that there's challenges on small projects when we're working with local contractors in terms of their prioritizations of them.
[1:04] And so they did end up pushing back last fall and finishing up late with some extra work to do this spring.
[1:12] And then obviously there was a late snow and then a lot of rain which kept pushing it back,
[1:17] otherwise.
[1:18] So it's not just you guys that that are impacted.
[1:22] Duck Lake just had minor work left to do as well,
[1:25] which we've been working with them to try and get done,
[1:28] only to find out that they're now subcontracting that out and not going to do it until September.
[1:33] indicating to us that they are over committed and busy on other projects.
[1:39] So we have been constantly in communication with them trying to get worked wrapped up.
[1:44] So where the issue became at this site was when we went to put in the ditching,
[1:50] which is needed to convey the water around and not have a bonding right up against the closed landfill,
[1:56] which could then potentially impact your leachate and your monitoring results over time.
[2:00] want to make sure that that water is running away is that we did encounter extra waste.
[2:06] We weren't on site for that work because we try and keep it as efficient as we can for you as
[2:10] we're really needed for the clay testing. Usually the ditching is pretty low risk that there
[2:14] we just can be for confirmed the grades by the survey after the fact and inspection and there was
[2:22] communication after they hit waste. We removed the ditch alignment when we get out of the waste
[2:28] and the activity was supposed to stop with more waste, but we did have to get those
[2:31] ditches in and it's not unusual to, on the historic line of bills, to encounter more
[2:37] waste that was placed wherever on site. So that waste has to be dealt with. There was a
[2:43] request just to get an idea of what would it cost to all it to as long as one option, but
[2:48] our preferred option is to leave it on site and just re-incorporate it into the cap itself
[2:55] in the mound. And so it took a while for us to get a meeting with the contractor because they are so busy, but we did just have one yesterday.
[3:04] And so they take away for them was to come back to us with their ability and timing and level of effort to just peel back what's on that top and place it basically at the center. So we'll raise the center to still get the proper drainage off of it.
[3:21] so that the teaching is there to carry the water away, so our preference is to just leave it
[3:28] on site and replace it back into the mound that's already there. I know it seems probably expensive
[3:37] and probably questions on the ditching but if anything this spring for all of our work in sites
[3:43] have told us and shown us the importance of making sure that we're managing that water properly
[3:47] with the intense storms that we did face and see, because ultimately our goal is to reduce
[3:56] categories to your monitoring and reduce efforts that you have on that site. And so really
[4:01] is all about that water management. So I did see that Raskowski did send us an email back for
[4:07] saying this morning. Our senior engineer is now actuallyening this one himself. So he was just working
[4:15] response back to some of Adam's questions this morning to get that information back.
[4:22] So did he see it? Did he see it? No. Is it top so long? Okay.
[4:29] There shouldn't be. So now what you're saying is you feel that we can put those three files on top
[4:38] of the liner. No, one, we'd feel back the liner. Just feel back the clay that was there,
[4:44] place the waste and then reconfact the clay over top.
[4:52] So this is an impervious
[4:54] this is your classifying this as so you want him to take all that clay off
[5:03] and then recap it
[5:05] with compaction issues again. Yeah, he shouldn't have to remove it all in just where we're placing
[5:10] that waste to get the proper proper slopes and you and what's the cost to us to become that done?
[5:17] That's what he's just coming up with now.
[5:20] I'm prepared to hauling that waste stuff away.
[5:24] Yeah.
[5:24] I don't know, one, I don't feel that this is our issue.
[5:27] I feel this is an issue that our inspector and our contractor had.
[5:38] And number two, I feel very strange that this material was on the ground with no cap.
[5:50] And now we have to do something with it, like it was there before, and the direction I thought
[6:01] I was told is, if they found any material that was contaminated, that they didn't have
[6:09] do the ditch? Is that correct? No, we always need that ditch to move the water away from it,
[6:16] because we don't want it finding up a galaxy. If you can't deal with it, what's in the soil
[6:24] that's contaminated? Like what I know the soil is contaminated, but what is plastic is the stuff that's
[6:32] being being... Well, it's garbage. So waste was dug up, so that's always a risk with construction on
[6:38] on Hill is the records aren't going to be don't know exactly where the wait says.
[6:41] So there's always potential that we're going to dig into and uncover more.
[6:45] So it's a it's a it's not a liquid form. It's product.
[6:50] Yeah, I think they were digging when they were digging when they were digging.
[6:53] She's hearing it was it was plastic and stuff. I was there didn't do.
[6:57] And then they kept digging it even though material was still coming out.
[7:05] When really when they hit the material, they should just stop and we hit the
[7:09] if you guys weren't there, they should have called you.
[7:13] Yeah, and we sent an email back and there was no response, but at the end of the day, regardless of that, we still had to get those ditches in.
[7:19] So we still wouldn't fend to exploit that reason.
[7:22] So we're saving a higher way to get that material.
[7:26] Yeah, we tried to realign it to see if we could step up and get away.
[7:30] From it, but we didn't get away from it. So then you're in January and we've wrong again.
[7:37] Well, no, because there's no way way we can know where all the waste is because that's based on records and historic information.
[7:43] So if you remember at the start of this project, there's more waste on that site overall and we came to agreement with the ministry that you guys didn't need to cap and cover an entirety of the site. It was just what was most recently used and still exposed.
[7:57] we shrink the area much down to what we thought, but there really was no way for us to know where the
[8:02] extent of that. They don't do a test before to see what's in that soil, like not no testing
[8:10] with them. Test fitting to separate. See if it was contaminated. Where the ditches were going to be before you
[8:16] dug. No. So you had a guess in it? Well, this is going to cost. We had the estimate on the
[8:25] So I wish I had that in for like I said we had been going back and forth and trying to deal with this earlier last week with Adam and we couldn't get a meeting with them until yesterday afternoon was the soon as he could meet with us.
[8:37] So I'm hoping that we'll have that information if not later today or it's tomorrow because I need to send back some questions this morning.
[8:47] And trust me, it's frustrating for us to because these should have been wrapped up when they're small jobs and
[8:53] to hear that they're just busy with
[8:55] other sites and not prioritizing them.
[8:57] It's frustrating, but I made it clear to him that these are tied to
[9:01] I said funding and they need to get done and wrapped up.
[9:05] So was there end date on this?
[9:07] Like, when do we have to have done it like?
[9:10] You have to have all of your reporting in by March 31st,
[9:14] which means construction really has to be done
[9:17] no later than end of September.
[9:21] I think that's a date amount of rate.
[9:22] But all I said, yeah, yeah.
[9:27] You said, you know, the cost of Pauling was tough.
[9:31] How much is that?
[9:33] How much material are we talking about?
[9:40] 20,000 yards, I don't know, it's pretty big.
[9:43] Oh,
[9:46] that's going to be more than 50 grand than.
[9:49] Well, no, it was, I want to say,
[9:51] I don't have to find the exammers. I want to say his cost to get it to the landfill without tipping
[9:58] bees was 10k.
[10:02] He's going to which line flow are you talking about ours? No, I could go to
[10:07] Laura's RPA either way. He's going to he's going to he's so he has cost to load it and haul it.
[10:14] He's going to haul for 50 cents a yard. I find that very hard to believe.
[10:19] So he's a bit in wrong here too, so he's trying to help out, but I washed my hands on it because I figured it was more.
[10:29] Whatever the quality is, it just makes him surprised that anyone would put a truck down the road for 50 cents a yard.
[10:36] Yeah, because they're only only with 20 or 25 yards, right?
[10:40] You know,
[10:49] if it's a $10,000 bill to haul that $400 cubic meters,
[10:54] it'll be more than a $10,000 bill to refold it off
[10:58] than $400 cubic meters, and put it on there.
[11:01] And you're going to have to take it back.
[11:02] We're going to have to do that.
[11:05] Yes.
[11:05] To me, if we can get it hold for that kind of money,
[11:09] why do we want to disturb all the work we've done already?
[11:12] Well, and then our thing is
[11:16] very technical to get the compaction that they want. And we had lots of trouble doing it.
[11:25] And it's a very technical. It's not a simple compaction test.
[11:31] Like it's a test that needs to go to Edmonton unless you've got different testers.
[11:40] Well, there's two things. So there's the onsite testing, which we do in it.
[11:43] only honestly that fake app was only like the day's level of effort, like it was not a big job
[11:49] for them to get that play done. I'm probably doing it on site testing and then it's just one
[11:53] confirmatory test that's taken and sent to the lab. We flew it with the drone just like last week.
[12:00] So we have volumes to of what we think is there because we stopped in and flew it on Thursday.
[12:06] So that's what we would have worked out is just to the phrase difference between the two
[12:10] cutting out what he comes back with or not. Okay, so I guess we need to get some feedback.
[12:20] Oh, we got to wait for you. Yeah. But can we wait till September or for this? Because if we wait till
[12:29] September,
[12:32] we have to get them so that they can come back and do the work like to set it up.
[12:37] And we not do like an email. We'll be able to get to pass it.
[12:43] Yeah. I think if we if we're looking for two quotes one to haul it one to redo it.
[12:49] Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty easy decision when you read the email and said one is 50,000
[12:53] the other one is bent up. You don't want to get up. Well, they're more or to me if they're
[12:59] both pretty close to the same is still better. You're better off the haul it because all the work
[13:06] we've done, you're not disturbing it as far as I'm concerned.
[13:11] Well, then you can just go ahead and put the topsoil on and see, right, guys.
[13:17] If we last equipment that I have to come here to do what the topsoil.
[13:22] Whereas if we go the other way, he's going to bring a whole bunch of equipment here to do it.
[13:29] The water did it.
[13:34] the decide what to do over email. Once we have the information required during the month of August,
[13:44] like he's going to have this cool, it's pretty quick, cool, you know. Yeah. I hope again if it's a or
[13:48] tomorrow morning. So technically we could deliver the answer by Monday. Yeah. Okay, we have a second
[13:55] around that. Yeah. Second by three. All agree that. Agreed. Sorry. Sorry. I can I can repeat it. That that
[14:04] So I made the motion that council can make this decision over email once the information is received during the month of August.
[14:13] So I just put an end date on it, but should be forth with.
[14:17] And instead of having a special meeting.
[14:20] Yep.
[14:21] Okay.
[14:22] All in agreement?
[14:23] Agreed.
[14:25] It is best.
[14:28] So just the last update just so you guys have the full picture on the site.
[14:32] The other piece of work ongoing is the monitoring.
[14:38] which we did reduce from twice a year, once a year, a while ago, so that did occur in the spring.
[14:44] So they're reporting will be done now.
[14:46] And so our goal always is everything stays stable.
[14:50] And there's no impacts now that it's technically closed.
[14:54] Hopefully we can continue to need to reduce that.
[14:56] So what you can see going forward would be like a recommendation for once every second.
[15:00] And here, right. And then, after a couple of times, let's say, say, say, well, hopefully we can go down to once every three or once every five so that your costs are continually coming down on that site as long as nothing changes or nothing is found.
[15:13] The one piece of that because it's a close site down the ministry will still require at least to start just an annual inspection and report of it separate from the monitoring side. So it's just somebody.
[15:27] Taking a look at it like basically in our annual report, you'll see come through a checklist of what they require to be
[15:35] Inspectorate annually and then a report school in with them
[15:39] When if and when we do the
[15:42] Monitoring and reporting, we just include it with that scope and the whole same
[15:47] Submission to the Ministry
[15:49] But if there's years that the monitoring is not happening
[15:54] That is something you could do yourself. It doesn't require an engineer to do it, so you could do it yourself.
[16:00] You just have to remember to have some redo it and fill out some type of something to submit to the ministry,
[16:07] saying what the results were of the inspection and confirming it was done,
[16:13] or because we're up and down the highway all the time with people in Saskatoon where
[16:16] have you just to stop by in some of our meteor to them that that it was visually done,
[16:21] whichever you guys refer with? Just wanted to kind of build that out as the next steps for the
[16:26] site that once it's closed, they kind of require that part on the annual basis, but we'll continue to
[16:31] hopefully reduce them on, I'm trying to reduce frequency.
[16:35] The ones that also wells on, proceedings done,
[16:42] do you state and say that this is now complete
[16:48] or does some federal or provincial government inspector have to come and look at this
[16:54] to state?
[16:55] Yes, this is done.
[16:57] This is now just to transfer state.
[17:00] I know on the construction side of it, we have a final construction report.
[17:04] they get submitted to the ministry to state everything that was done and that that construction
[17:10] is complete as per the application that was submitted. Keep in mind after that it's just
[17:17] the closed law, but you're not even a transportation under any ministries, just a definition
[17:22] of transportation. So you're just literally a closed law and fill up to that. Okay, but they have to
[17:33] they'll send a letter back acknowledging receipt of the report and if they have any questions on it
[17:39] or confirming it, but they don't come up to say to certifier to look at anything.
[17:44] So if everything goes right, we should possibly have that like Christmas.
[17:50] Yeah, we have to you every permit differs a bit, but typically at 60 days after construction.
[17:57] So say construction was completed by September 30th. We'd have to have that submitted to the
[18:01] just revised November 30th and our goal is to finish off all those final
[18:05] invoices for Amanda, so she can get them submitted through to ISIP by that
[18:09] March deadline and then they typically just send a report back and they don't
[18:14] easily respond with anything on the construction report. It's just
[18:17] acknowledging that it was completed.
[18:21] Okay,
[18:23] so then the monitoring though still
[18:26] falls under like if it's not a landfill anymore but we still because it was a
[18:33] and fill,
[18:35] we still have to do our testing and all that is as you check to see if there's water in any of the zomers.
[18:43] And then you take a sample and then you have to test that.
[18:49] Yeah, we send the samples to the lab and lab analyzes it.
[18:52] And then it's done, like we got a couple that never had water in, right?
[18:56] We decommissioned one.
[18:58] Yeah, okay.
[18:59] Okay, I think so.
[19:00] I touch base with them and just give them an update or that end of construction will kind of be
[19:09] the Ministry of I said, because you just said your I said reporting was just do you read.
[19:14] Yeah.
[19:15] No, not I said the Ministry.
[19:18] The reporting will do it.
[19:19] Or for you if they haven't come asking if they do ask you can just let the
[19:23] I haven't heard since.
[19:25] Like effectively with that play on it is closed because that's the impermeable barriers.
[19:32] So we are stating in our 2026 monitoring report that really was effectively closed at the end of 2012.
[19:38] Because that's the impermeable barrier, the rest of it's just basically the top dressing, right, for a rodent.
[19:46] So that's each way report though if they haven't come, that will do it.
[19:49] Yeah, I have to hear from them at all, say,
[19:51] This is, yeah, before we start a construction.
[19:55] Okay, yeah, and then, like I said,
[19:56] when we get you that report,
[19:57] I can't say right now,
[19:58] if it will be another year of annual
[20:00] or if it will just be annual,
[20:01] it goes to semi-annual.
[20:03] And even if you want us to do just next year's
[20:04] bills, you know, inspections,
[20:05] you have something to work off of or whatever.
[20:08] We're happy just to do that.
[20:11] But I will try and pack it, whatever, Adam gets me,
[20:13] I'll try and package it up to you.
[20:14] So it has the decision, the things like the difference.
[20:19] Yeah, I'll have to,
[20:20] These are the two options, these are the costs, and then I can circulate it with everybody.
[20:27] Yeah, I'm guessing Morris is just not much closer. I think they're tipping fees are probably pretty close. I'll take a look at what the difference is, but they're probably pretty close.
[20:37] All right.
[20:39] That intersection in Saskatoon being close.
[20:42] Trying to put my drugs away.
[20:43] It's really good.
[20:45] Yeah, tell me how that worked takes three months.
[20:48] Okay. Thank you for coming.
[20:49] Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. You want to take this great quick break here before our next
[21:01] delegation at
[21:04] Hey, Roger. I sent in my indemnity too. So recording of it.
[21:10] Peace for everyone. Hey, we're back in the meeting and
[21:13] And gave this send us a dynamic, remarkable, can we go back to that, we added the answer
[21:19] that we clear this up, do we have to go back to, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll have to
[21:26] get a set of 0.1, we can set, oh, we have 7.2, so we've taken any of the motion, we'll
[21:34] make that motion, we'll set them by 2 by 4 and 1, all our agreement, agreed is back, there
[21:41] we've got, gives the mission 7, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1,
[21:44] Council meeting 600, 5 hours, committee meeting 141, one hour, committee meeting 28, 172,
[21:56] co 1, 72 kilometers, 91, 20, mooring, inspection, 2 hours, 56, roads, 7 hours, 80
[22:07] Clonters, 196, we're total of 11, 11,
[22:14] 20.
[22:15] Yeah, the Clonters, that seems to be the rate
[22:19] seem to be wrong for am I.
[22:22] This is another, this is a summer.
[22:24] 67.
[22:25] Yeah.
[22:26] But if it is me, share you.
[22:30] Senator Clinton, comment, so then a number greater than $80, what I heard, maybe I have.
[22:35] 80, is there set up? Can you clarify your identity? I don't know, sir.
[22:43] Sorry, the, the, the plumbers was one was 72 plus 80. So 152 at 60 cents for 91, 20.
[22:51] And then the road seven hours was the was the 196 that 80 kilometers below was a note.
[22:58] So I apologize for not adding it up or not putting it more clearly.
[23:03] Does that make sense?
[23:06] It's for me.
[23:11] Motion to accept.
[23:12] 5, 5 and 3.
[23:14] All in agreement.
[23:16] Agreed.
[23:17] Pass.
[23:19] Okay.
[23:19] We've got 15 minutes.
[23:21] We're going to run.
[23:22] 7.
[23:22] 7.
[23:23] That would be fine.
[23:25] That would be fine.
[23:26] Yeah.
[23:26] If we can get to that in the class of day.
[23:29] The live payroll.
[23:30] It's in the live payroll office administration.
[23:33] The file of 1970.
[23:34] The board.
[23:35] Land fell 1781.
[23:39] Council will last month,
[23:41] 3632 to 40.
[23:43] Form in 81.
[23:44] 50.
[23:44] 34.
[23:45] Outside staff 52.
[23:47] 95.
[23:48] 59.
[23:48] for a total of 76, 76, 76, 76, 87.
[23:57] Most of the things.
[23:58] Most of the things are parallel.
[24:00] By three-second.
[24:03] Two.
[24:04] Up, all the game agreed.
[24:07] Yes.
[24:10] Performance funds to go back this month.
[24:12] There is only one for permit 19, 2022.
[24:18] I'm actually, motion by one.
[24:20] Second by four.
[24:22] All I'm going to.
[24:24] Agreed.
[24:25] It fast.
[24:27] So this little misblast of accounts. So these were approved to be paid, but they just were somehow misdened the list of accounts for approval listing. So we're just going to include them. So that is on paper in the minute. So checks 1, the A 2, 6, 2, 2, 1, 8, 2, 6, 7, or total 22, 4, 28,
[24:53] 17.
[24:54] Yeah, I'll send that one second by two, seven, all right, two, okay, agreed.
[25:03] It is that he was in account for approval for the month of July.
[25:21] The bulk fuel in Hague was all delivered onto 23rd of July.
[25:29] Or is that when we were invoiced?
[25:32] That's probably the invoice date.
[25:34] Yeah.
[25:37] So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven fills in the month of July.
[25:44] Oh, they come to love and hate.
[25:46] Yeah, hey.
[25:48] Celebrate. Probably here, I think.
[25:52] No, Roster and had one.
[25:55] The old field delivery in Roster was one and there's other seven were in Hague.
[26:07] Some things are tank and Hague that he delivered. Do we go through that?
[26:11] Well, number one, he's not using the tank. He's not using the tank. He's using the tank.
[26:21] He's using the tank that he takes away the construction is and he drives around.
[26:26] He's using our portable. Yes, he'll that's going all over the place.
[26:29] Okay, that's why screw up.
[26:32] Okay, that makes more sense because.
[26:35] And it's causing we getting filled.
[26:37] Yeah, okay. No, it's just for the wrong and here. Yeah, yeah, because you haven't used a tank of this whole year.
[27:02] Motion to accept the.
[27:14] Yeah,
[27:25] so there if somebody wants to make a motion there looks like there's another.
[27:30] Performance upon in here for permit number 17 20 25
[27:41] so could just make that separate motion to issue that on.
[27:44] Okay, motion by four, second by three, all in agreement,
[27:53] agreed, and it's passed.
[27:56] Let me take a look at this.
[28:02] Thanks.
[28:04] Let's motion to the bills by three, second by four, all in agreement, agreed.
[28:15] Let's pass.
[28:21] for your detailed financial statement and the summary that I've proved the summary.
[28:34] So they're really getting this picture.
[28:48] But that search and rescue don't have to regret to keep the lot of data.
[28:53] We receive anything from that.
[28:56] The part of it.
[28:58] I haven't seen anything yet.
[29:01] So I don't know, like what was that?
[29:05] Three weeks ago.
[29:06] Maybe we haven't gotten a report yet.
[29:11] Was something in your head?
[29:13] They rescued the annual baby of people.
[29:21] And they...
[29:23] Partly once she can't see, she can't see, she can't see, she can't see.
[29:25] Well, she's not.
[29:26] That's only if they can go along and record with a vehicle.
[29:30] Fish.
[29:32] And then they...
[29:34] Some kids actually, all they're fishing them.
[29:37] Oh, no.
[29:38] Thank you.
[29:41] Good morning.
[29:42] Good morning.
[29:52] Second motion to accept somebody.
[29:55] Summary.
[29:56] Financial problem with Summary by 1.
[29:59] Second by....
[30:00] 2, all out of the agreement, agreed.
[30:06] Is it fast?
[30:09] In the main character.
[30:15] Boom bank.
[30:26] Continue to accept the bank record.
[30:29] We'll also accept the bank record by five, second by four, five and four.
[30:38] All of the agreement.
[30:40] Agreed.
[30:45] Okay, that's the sprayer record.
[30:52] Unpaid, actually, it's okay.
[30:55] I'm not getting here in the door.
[30:57] You know, she's not here in the office, is she?
[31:00] Can they start over here?
[31:02] Check.
[31:08] Come on, it's not.
[31:10] Wait, that's the end, wait, it was a nice chair for you.
[31:13] I'll go away.
[31:20] I mean, you know.
[31:25] Move to go to 3.2.
[31:28] moved by seven to go 3.2 second by three all in agreement, agreed as fast.
[31:44] That's control.
[31:46] We have a bit of an issue with Hilcoma dairy. Okay, they are supposed to put down dust proofing.
[31:57] It rarely happens. The first half to put in a complaint.
[32:02] And then, that's put a little bit of water down the middle, and with impassing it, it's better, but not the requirements that are in their contracts.
[32:17] And come, and the September up to over, there's at least five quarters of corn coming.
[32:23] and they don't want to come.
[32:24] By our place, with school buses, and the other day when they don't put any down at the end of our driveway, I do not understand that.
[32:35] But the other day, I got up from my chair at 6 o'clock. I thought it was foggy. It was dust.
[32:45] So bad that my daughter is on the corner. She has a flag about 150 feet from the house.
[32:52] couldn't see it.
[32:56] This has to stop. Somebody's going to die. They've already had one accident.
[33:03] And this bring me just to locate my daughter with two kids.
[33:08] And with school buses coming, we're fed up. All of us.
[33:15] Like, can the RM, send them a letter,
[33:19] saying that if they do not provide adequate dust control, that you guys can put it down and build it, is that a possibility?
[33:33] Well, first set would be to address your concerns and then give them an opportunity to see what they're going to do about it.
[33:45] And I would suggest that in that statement that we make that the what the the dust control like they're doing now isn't working.
[33:56] I don't care if they put water down once an hour.
[34:01] What's in the contract? How many times are they supposed to dust control in a year? If they use dust control not worth.
[34:10] If they use the actual dust control.
[34:11] Just said there anything written in their contract with us. Yeah, I got it here if you don't
[34:19] It's just supposed to keep it
[34:22] Yeah, and it says
[34:23] With hi John will reimburse the municipality's cost associated with any dust control measures that the municipality should
[34:30] Reasonable be considered appropriate for the time in the dust control area
[34:34] So we can absolutely do it and then just back charging it's in the contract
[34:38] It is so bad that when you drive down their roads, have you ever passed a semi on a gravel road and for two seconds or whatever, you couldn't see nothing.
[34:50] Yeah. That's what we're living with.
[34:56] And if we're going to do this for two solid weeks and fall, I'm, I'm over it.
[35:05] Yeah. Yeah, in the event that I would, whatever, how do you pronounce that? I'm sorry. I'll go. How do you pronounce that?
[35:12] How do you pronounce that? I'll kill yon. Kill yon. Kill yon. Kill yon. Kill yon.
[35:16] Kill yon. Kill yon. Thank you. Kill yon. In the event, Kill yon should be unable to meet those concerns, which I'm hearing that they're not.
[35:24] Kill yon. We'll reimburse the municipality's cost. So if they don't do it, we can do it and build them. That's what the contract says.
[35:30] So like we complain to them every time now we're not even phoning them anymore, we're just
[35:39] and it's end of June July August because it's first time on the second cut third cut
[35:47] party corn, it's never ending. So four months would be adequate four months from first cut.
[35:57] So he'll fill the other part until they end the corn. Yes, and right now there's just it's just water on there. Well, that's all they've put down this year have been put in any water at all a little bit after you were there down the middle of the road, but you know, they're posting and that corn is dangerous thing is water doesn't last very long water doesn't last yeah last hours it they're supposed to dust control dust control is use the right product.
[36:26] So this map we have here is this near map will others just where this map come from.
[36:32] No, I did up that map. So that's one mile in their operation.
[36:37] Well, we should be putting the.
[36:39] How is it though like the star is their operation?
[36:42] Yes.
[36:42] Listen me like it goes past one mile.
[36:44] And I'm just the contract says one mile.
[36:46] So I just want to know if we're inviting by this map or by.
[36:50] Well, this is just what I did.
[36:51] Like how.
[36:52] So one mile I'm going to need south this too far.
[36:55] No, East.
[36:58] How far is it going?
[37:00] I don't know.
[37:00] Too fast.
[37:02] But this is crooked, right?
[37:04] Oh, okay.
[37:05] Yes.
[37:06] Going through the village.
[37:07] Yeah, that'd be going through 14 today.
[37:08] I'm not saying it should or shouldn't be done.
[37:11] I'm just saying the contract says one mile in that map is more than one mile.
[37:15] So.
[37:16] One mile.
[37:16] You're saying it shouldn't be here.
[37:18] Well, that's, is it not a mile, but maybe I'm wrong.
[37:21] I think maybe they're doing a mile from the corner up there property.
[37:25] While we have to go live with the contracts, as I say, and if we're going to try and force.
[37:30] So, because the driveway is at the end of, if it says one word. Okay, and so the where they're coming off of, often, is just east of our driveway.
[37:45] But they've never done our actions residing in front of us, that's located in one way of being awesome.
[37:53] Yeah, it says within one mile of their operation, she's right not.
[38:01] What do you want?
[38:02] Darryl, this is your division.
[38:05] What do you work?
[38:06] They should be put if that's in the contract,
[38:08] they should be putting dust proof from down, not just water.
[38:12] Is that within one mile of their operation?
[38:14] Because there are operation itself, no.
[38:18] They're really built a new barns,
[38:19] which is a little bit further south.
[38:21] They put dust proofing down.
[38:22] And it's almost like pavement.
[38:24] They put the used up cooking up.
[38:27] Yeah, it's really kind of oil.
[38:29] It's marvelous.
[38:30] And I think that's a little bit, but I think we're going to remember if the Randall and again, it's going to go together.
[38:36] Yeah, how quick can we get this down?
[38:38] Well, the thing is, if it's only one mile, I don't think it's owned by a year's place.
[38:43] Oh, yes, I think.
[38:45] Let's make sure that's what I'm to make it sure.
[38:48] Yeah, let's make sure that you're old.
[38:51] We go by your contract.
[38:53] That says no.
[38:54] Yes, it is.
[38:56] She's going wrong.
[38:58] She's going.
[39:01] If it goes outside in the wild and the RM just ends up paying for it and if there is liability issues here,
[39:11] which it's not here, there are.
[39:15] Like it was so bad.
[39:18] There's one of these chapters in Sam's.
[39:20] We're driving with the lights up because they themselves couldn't see each other.
[39:26] It's dangerous.
[39:27] It's pretty clear in the contract there should be doing it so yeah, and I'm not arguing that I'm just saying if we're going to try to enforce something
[39:34] I don't want it to come back to us.
[39:37] That's pretty good.
[39:38] Did you see when you go over here?
[39:40] I talked to Mitchell, though, that piece and they probably have a true lawyer.
[39:45] That cost $1400 to do that.
[39:48] That distance.
[39:49] That was calcium or vanilla oil.
[39:52] I think that's calcium.
[39:53] That was calcium.
[39:54] Okay, guilt.
[39:57] Can I give Pinole's cheaper go with it? I'm good.
[40:00] It depends on the day. It seems like that we did it in front of our place.
[40:04] Do you want it?
[40:06] I would recommend Pinole oil instead of calcium on that roll.
[40:11] Me too.
[40:12] That's for the residents.
[40:14] That was just your vehicles.
[40:16] The calcium.
[40:19] It's horrible.
[40:20] Yeah, I agree.
[40:22] Okay, so do you have to make a motion?
[40:23] I mean, I mean, I mean, I or McGill.
[40:30] Well, we should get a bill.
[40:32] That's the opportunity to do it first.
[40:36] So.
[40:37] It's like how much.
[40:39] Yes.
[40:39] Sounds like we're.
[40:40] Sounds like that's happened already and not done.
[40:42] Getting two weeks.
[40:44] They haven't had it.
[40:45] They haven't had it for a moment or less.
[40:47] They don't need it according to the contract.
[40:50] They need it to be doing it.
[40:52] Well, I think it's still the right thing to do.
[40:54] You can't just go without letting them know that maybe they can correct this by the concerns.
[41:03] Yeah.
[41:03] What are they doing on it?
[41:05] You want to give them two weeks?
[41:08] Two weeks?
[41:09] It hasn't done by then.
[41:10] We do it.
[41:11] Yeah.
[41:13] So a letter stating,
[41:16] How are you going to send this letter?
[41:18] Because mail mail will take a week and then they only have a week.
[41:21] And we do it by a phone call.
[41:24] Can we not just phone to the owner of that day or place?
[41:29] You have X amount of time to get this done, otherwise we're going to do it tomorrow.
[41:32] I do have a female, like we should put something on paper, otherwise we're not going to have
[41:37] it.
[41:37] Okay.
[41:37] Maybe do that, but also a phone call to get an answer right away from, because I mean, it shouldn't
[41:46] be newsy.
[41:47] Because in two weeks, they're doing silage here for the next two weeks.
[41:51] Like I've talked to them a few times when we've received complaints and he says, yeah, we're putting it down.
[41:58] But then we've got to say what we want to do.
[42:02] I believe we have to say water's not acceptable anymore.
[42:06] It has to be a true dust control product of calcium or vanilla oil.
[42:11] Then we can't let him do water.
[42:13] It's like the two week waiting period.
[42:15] Yeah, I agree.
[42:16] Are you going to break up?
[42:17] Yeah, I agree.
[42:19] They've done their Barney Savage.
[42:23] They're done that.
[42:24] We survived through that.
[42:27] So it's the corn that's kind of a hell of a cell phone.
[42:30] So it's going to be, you know,
[42:32] Phelps is on the Genesis quarter.
[42:35] So we're going to be okay there.
[42:38] It's, yeah.
[42:40] I just don't want somebody to die over nonsense.
[42:50] like in that like, well, there are drives best. You can see. So are we, is this map of
[42:58] green or green to this map? Like I said, yes.
[43:05] That's the one one mile of the edge. Yeah. I think that's the request. So yeah, that's that's
[43:09] what we would like them to do. And I guess if he wants to only pay for the one mile piece,
[43:17] so then we'll have to address that somehow.
[43:32] Okay, so I just put that for your motion chat.
[43:36] Yeah, read it. Oh, please.
[43:37] That a lot of we sent to Hal John, so concerns have been brought forward.
[43:42] Councils recommending can all oil best control be placed within the approved area on the map.
[43:47] If not completed for the agreement, the arm will place it in a place.
[43:53] Yeah, the agreement's agreement doesn't give a timeline.
[43:56] You have to say how how you have to state for week two weeks.
[44:06] Just supposed to be done all the time, supposed to be kept up to date.
[44:11] Two weeks, I think, is with everyone on the table of degrees.
[44:15] Completed within two weeks. Can I offer up that as a?
[44:19] We don't start to figure out.
[44:22] Okay.
[44:24] I couldn't hear.
[44:30] Sounds good to me.
[44:32] Thank you, kindly.
[44:33] You're welcome.
[44:35] Thank you.
[44:35] You're welcome.
[44:40] You
[44:45] need a second here on that.
[44:48] Yeah.
[44:49] Second by four.
[44:53] All in green.
[44:56] Agreed.
[44:59] So it's four.
[45:00] Okay, two, office committee.
[45:06] All right, moving on to the line.
[45:12] I moved here. We go to 3.3. It's a little bit early. Well, seven minutes.
[45:17] Yeah, it's on there.
[45:21] Delegation request for the code of ethics of lanes.
[45:26] All right.
[45:26] It depends on on this in mode to the 3.3.
[45:30] I moved it.
[45:30] So, yeah, we did with the second drink.
[45:34] Okay, sorry.
[45:36] Thanks, Larry.
[45:37] Well, I'm given.
[45:38] Agreed.
[45:49] All right, Andrew, we'll be right.
[45:53] My original intention was to comment on the way
[45:59] that council deals with code of ethics
[46:01] complaints against members of council.
[46:06] I'd like to reserve my comments
[46:08] until you guys make your decision.
[46:11] You know, I understand that it's coming later today.
[46:15] So, is it possible to push this delegation off
[46:18] until you guys have made your decision?
[46:25] I remember we table this until after our decision.
[46:29] And just one other comment too before you do that,
[46:33] I'm just wondering did everybody receive the letter
[46:35] that I sent though?
[46:36] The email that I sent out with an option,
[46:40] an option to take care of this without having to
[46:44] refer to a third party, did everyone get a chance to read that email before you make your decision?
[46:49] Everybody got it. Okay. I read it. Is it possible that I'd like to have that structure as an open letter to
[46:57] counsel? So I'd like to request that that letter that email that I sent the part of the public
[47:06] record and attached to the minutes. Structured as an open letter to council.
[47:18] I don't know if you want
[47:18] I do have that now or wait until I do the delegation after you make a decision but something
[47:25] to think about anyway.
[47:29] I'll let my emotions then to table this until we do the other
[47:31] part. If no seconds did I then I can try and do something else but
[47:38] oh why would this go to
[47:40] the HR Foundation? Okay hold on here there's just a lot of apologies.
[47:48] I'm going
[47:59] to do.
[48:00] Okay, so you have a motion on the table.
[48:03] The table, the delegation to the HR update.
[48:07] Yes.
[48:09] I'll second this.
[48:12] Okay.
[48:13] All I gave it.
[48:15] Great.
[48:18] Now, we just want to go away to that.
[48:19] What's the agenda item is that if we want to go to that?
[48:22] Or do we want to do it later?
[48:24] I'm not going to do it right now.
[48:26] Okay.
[48:27] And then I move that we go to the, I guess additional business, Amanda, additional business of code.
[48:34] I'm just, I'm just, you know, motion to move to the HR update report.
[48:41] Okay, yeah, I'll make that motion, the motion to move to the HR community update.
[49:05] Yeah, second. Seconder on that.
[49:12] Seconder by forward. All agreed.
[49:14] agreed.
[49:22] Okay, so HR, reviewed, and there are two meetings regarding the
[49:35] issue that
[49:40] taxpayer had with Division 5.
[49:47] We were hoping that we can resolve it, but it in our
[49:54] opinion after our meetings, we feel that there's still both parties aren't satisfied with
[50:05] the conclusion, and our hands are tied,
[50:11] and our recommendation was that there should be
[50:17] apologies for both sides, which there was one definitely from the one side, but not really
[50:26] apology from the other side and our opinion. So therefore after reviewing this and doing what we
[50:34] feel that we could do, we're recommending that this goes to our investigators to resolve this issue
[50:41] and get a motion or a recommendation from them. Okay, well there's quite a bit on pack there.
[50:51] So the HR committee met about what?
[50:57] About the complaint, a complaint against a counselor.
[51:03] That was a vision five, the vision five counselor, not an employee.
[51:09] That's correct.
[51:11] Okay.
[51:12] So the HR committee met about not HR.
[51:19] It is HR, it's the place where, if we don't, if we don't do that, it would,
[51:27] have gone directly to the investigators. So a lot of states in there, if you've got a complaint,
[51:33] it's tried it. The first thing you try to do is you try to resolve it between the complaint
[51:39] E and the complaint error. Right, which they tried to solve themselves. And we brought them both in.
[51:45] We let them both discuss. And then we do that. If you did it as an HR committee.
[51:53] Like, how is this dissimilar to the gravel thing where you just started working on gravel pits without approves a load of counsel like it's a cart before the horse?
[52:04] What are you talking about?
[52:06] Well, somewhere we're talking about.
[52:08] I feel like we need to stick to the mission.
[52:10] Let's stick to the issue here and we just stated it.
[52:15] I'm going to ask you how HR dealt with a counselor complaint.
[52:19] There's a process in the by-law of how to deal with this, going to a HR committee is not that process.
[52:28] Why is it everything we do?
[52:30] Good to you, is never right. To me, you didn't do this to me.
[52:40] Okay, number one, I'm making a recommendation that we send.
[52:45] I heard the recommendation, but I also read the letter. I also read the letter. Well, that's a motion. You'll make not a recommendation, but you haven't made one yet.
[52:55] And I'm asking, I saw the apology already.
[53:00] So if he apologized, where does it state in the bylaw that both people need to apologize
[53:05] even?
[53:06] He already done it, it's already done, why are we duplicating work?
[53:12] Because when he's already apologized, like, because you, so the HR committee decided that
[53:19] both parties should apologize.
[53:21] Council didn't decide that.
[53:23] You did.
[53:26] There was a feeling from the
[53:32] division five that this was one sided and we kind of agreed with it.
[53:39] So this isn't a decision that the HR did.
[53:44] What the HR did is listen to both sides to see if we could resolve this situation.
[53:51] And it appeared to begin with that and possibly could be, but then at the end it did not work.
[53:59] I was going to be asking.
[54:05] How is it not resolved at this point?
[54:07] He made the apology.
[54:08] It's done.
[54:09] So why are we now going to look at spending $5,000 sending a tune investigator when he already apologized?
[54:17] It's done.
[54:19] No, it's not done.
[54:22] Well, it should be done then.
[54:24] Let me say it that way.
[54:25] The one person apologize, there's no onus on the person that made the complaint to do anything, including apologize to the counselor for something.
[54:36] Like it's not.
[54:38] Okay, division five would like to speak here.
[54:42] I'm completely fine with the complaint being resolved as per my apology.
[54:52] If we're going to make a public scene out of it, then I would like to see the complainant
[54:58] to also say a submit in a apology as well, if we're doing with, if we're good with the
[55:07] apology being accepted on email between the parties, then yeah, it's resolved.
[55:17] Is that acceptable to the complaint?
[55:26] I'm not allowed to say anything unless I'm asked, am I going to be asked to question?
[55:32] My position has been clear.
[55:34] I mean, it's pretty clear in that letter.
[55:36] You know, it's what I wanted was an apology that dealt with the fact that Chad accused me of harassing
[55:44] and threatened him.
[55:46] And he did that.
[55:47] He gave me an apology that I accepted.
[55:50] I thought it was done.
[55:52] And then it came back that I had to apologize for my part of it.
[55:58] And I think you guys will all remember that I was very clear
[56:01] at that and I asked what specifically am I apologizing for?
[56:07] I was very specific in what I was wanting my apology
[56:10] in the fact that he threatened, that he said that I threatened
[56:14] and accused him of harassment, or that I threatened him and harass him.
[56:20] I just am asking for the same thing.
[56:23] What is it that I'm apologizing for?
[56:26] What part of my behavior am I apologizing for?
[56:30] And I've asked you that right from the start rod here.
[56:34] And no one has been able to give me an answer.
[56:37] I ask the HR committee, you've read all the documentation.
[56:41] You've seen all the evidence that was put forward.
[56:43] You've seen all the communication I have with him.
[56:47] What part of it are you guys identifying that's a problem?
[56:52] So I mean now is a time to ask Chad is there's something very specific that you want to
[56:56] That you want me to apologize for one specific incident or one way that I did it
[57:02] I also would just like to add that if you guys read that email
[57:06] You're gonna see that there's a process for Chad to deal with this
[57:10] I mean, these two issues are independent.
[57:15] If my conduct is going to be under review, you have a by-law that deals with that.
[57:20] Don't let this get in the way of one get in the way of the other.
[57:25] You guys can close this off, save the rate payers $5,000.
[57:29] I'm happy with Shads' apology.
[57:31] I'm completely content with it.
[57:33] And the fact that you agreed to attach it to the minutes to be part of the public record.
[57:37] This is gone away. If Chad has concerns about my behavior, bring it up under the public conduct by law, and we can have that discussion.
[57:50] And of course, if you guys find that there's an issue there, I'll gladly issue an apology.
[57:56] I don't believe I did anything wrong.
[57:59] And if you, if you'd like to point to something specific, Chad, maybe, you know, I mean,
[58:05] maybe I can help give you some clarity on it, or you know, understand your position.
[58:13] But I mean, again, we've never spoken directly since you guys made this decision.
[58:20] So that's something that, yeah,
[58:25] it's, you'd be in these styles of chambers a little bit.
[58:30] and you've seen what everybody's been going through. You've heard you. There's allegations,
[58:36] pointing fingers, and everybody's stress, through a certain lab, over our job as counselors
[58:46] are dealing with what's going on in the RF, roads, culverts, safety, or dust control.
[58:55] And a lot of time, a lot of our effort, in my opinion, has been wasted at these council chambers with the bickering that's going on, the point in thingers, the accusations, right wrong, which realistically, I never volunteered to be on a council to deal with, or anybody else here.
[59:18] At times, we all say we're wasting money on going another step, but the initial remark brought up is what caused this lengthy discussion of wasted time as a course.
[59:39] I don't say. Sorry, when you say the initial what do you mean by that division one? What what?
[59:48] What do you mean by that? When you say the initial the initial being brought up as what
[59:52] cause of this, what do you mean cause? What are you referring to? How far do I have to go back?
[59:58] 7, 8, 10, 11.
[1:00:00] A hundred years, there's being all kind of stuff said. No, I'm talking to Mr. Instance.
[1:00:06] What's, what's, what's, to this day on Mr. Bammal, I was still the administrator.
[1:00:10] I'm just telling my question. I said, pay off.
[1:00:14] Well, you're going back 100 years. I'm asking what this specifically.
[1:00:17] I'm going to pay off.
[1:00:19] Hey, let him finish.
[1:00:20] Be respectful.
[1:00:22] I'm not the one that's being disrespectful here.
[1:00:25] Can you not just let the man speak?
[1:00:27] And I can't hear anything you speak, speak.
[1:00:31] There's a number of a thousand things
[1:00:35] that we have been discussing that are not relevant to what
[1:00:40] I feel which I'm entitled to as representing the RMS
[1:00:44] of Roster and rate bills.
[1:00:47] And I said enough of this question.
[1:00:49] I will say in a more about this.
[1:00:55] It's a sector response, Eurich.
[1:00:59] You weren't in the room. Did you hear what went on?
[1:01:03] Only a part of it, and I never comment at all.
[1:01:06] I'll tell you what went on.
[1:01:10] Leo and Darrell heard it.
[1:01:12] Amanda and Roger heard it.
[1:01:14] So on that day, in this very room here,
[1:01:18] the vision five counselor yelled at me, insulted me personally.
[1:01:23] He demeaned my character, and questioned my integrity.
[1:01:27] More importantly, made very serious allegations that I threatened and harassed him.
[1:01:32] Now, sadly, this isn't the only time this has happened.
[1:01:35] It happened a year ago on the phone.
[1:01:37] He called me a phone.
[1:01:39] I believe that we put this to the investigator,
[1:01:42] and I don't know why it has to be you.
[1:01:44] I don't put it to the investigator, and I don't know why it has to be you.
[1:01:45] I don't put it to the investigator, and I don't know why it has to be unloaded.
[1:01:48] Just saying on public opinion.
[1:01:50] There's no there's the competition here.
[1:01:52] I've heard of everybody's heads.
[1:01:54] We're going to move on and we're not going to constantly argue about this.
[1:01:59] I think we've reviewed this enough, and it definitely very clear that it's not going to be set.
[1:02:06] You know, we can't spread the driver.
[1:02:08] Okay, we can do our job.
[1:02:11] We can do our job as the council and settle it.
[1:02:14] I mean, number one.
[1:02:15] Number one.
[1:02:17] There's all you have to do is separate the two.
[1:02:19] It was a result contingent on me,
[1:02:23] confessing blah, blah, blah to the public
[1:02:26] and making public corrected.
[1:02:28] Would you?
[1:02:30] Be quiet, division seven.
[1:02:33] I am talking.
[1:02:35] I can't tell when you're done.
[1:02:36] I'm sorry.
[1:02:38] Well, you should be able to even hear.
[1:02:41] Go on with that, James.
[1:02:43] Fairly.
[1:02:46] Right.
[1:02:46] I lost my train of life.
[1:02:47] OK, so are you presenting your public,
[1:02:49] You know, the public bears what I wrote back, I never made a public apology.
[1:02:55] I told you in the meeting that I would, here's my response to your email that I sent this morning to you and to our administrator.
[1:03:04] I wrote in regards to me, not publicly apologizing at this meeting.
[1:03:14] I wrote, this is correct, upon reflection I felt that I was unfairly taking 100% of the blame.
[1:03:21] I have no problem standing by my two apology letters, so long as Mr. Robin also writes a public apology.
[1:03:29] Mr. Robin has left behind the human decency.
[1:03:31] I feel elected public representatives deserve.
[1:03:35] This is why I've decided not to follow through with my commitments made at the HR meeting,
[1:03:40] and have recommended Mr. Robin here are the options either
[1:03:44] except my original apology letter and consider the issue resolved.
[1:03:50] Number two, make a public apology coinciding with my two apology letters
[1:03:54] or number three, have the issue go to the investigator.
[1:04:00] So, were you hold on hold on.
[1:04:03] So, are you prepared to ask you?
[1:04:06] You're prepared to tell me what you want me to apologize for.
[1:04:09] you want to look upon. I really find it insulting that you cannot self reflect your and figure out
[1:04:17] yourself where you've crossed the line. I stated here, Mr. Robin has left behind a human decency.
[1:04:26] I feel elected public representatives deserve. How is he indecent to you then? How is he indecent?
[1:04:33] And you, that's part two, that is amazing that you cannot see yourself what you're doing wrong.
[1:04:40] Articulate is true of the full problem.
[1:04:43] Articulate, if I try and put specifics out, then you guys will drag it out and say,
[1:04:49] well, no, you're wrong. This, that, the other thing. A certain, this is a big thing.
[1:04:55] We know if that's going to be a problem. We know it's not going to go on this.
[1:05:00] So yeah, I make them I look forward to the investigator
[1:05:02] you're looking at this and what forward to their response.
[1:05:07] You've already admitted what you're often one.
[1:05:08] Except one of the other two options.
[1:05:11] I guess I'm kind of wondering how it is in the first order.
[1:05:14] No more of this.
[1:05:16] I've had enough of all of this.
[1:05:18] So number one, I'm making a motion that this goes to the
[1:05:22] Investigator to review it.
[1:05:25] And I need a seconder.
[1:05:27] Do you have a seconder?
[1:05:29] Second by number one.
[1:05:31] What let's let's discuss it. I want to record a vote for this, too
[1:05:35] But let's go to discuss it. You have just touched it. I see it going nowhere
[1:05:39] I can still discuss the motion that you made for God. It is my right to discuss the motion
[1:05:47] Okay, you two minutes go ahead
[1:05:51] So we are talking about sending this to an investigator when the person has already admitted
[1:05:57] That has happened already. So what is an investigator plan on doing with this? That hasn't already been done.
[1:06:05] The person has written twice that they've already done this.
[1:06:08] Investigator is going to do what exactly that the HR committee hasn't already done.
[1:06:13] It was already established that he didn't threaten and harass him.
[1:06:18] He, the person admitted it. So what has an investigator to do with this? It is done.
[1:06:23] And when the investigators done, it comes right back to this council table for us to make a decision with it.
[1:06:29] So why don't we just skip the part that spends $5,000 because he's going to find exactly what the person's already admitted to?
[1:06:38] And we're going to have to make the exact same position we're in now.
[1:06:41] That's why.
[1:06:42] We just had a statement from Division 5 that he hasn't, he's retracting his cold statement
[1:06:51] because he feels this isn't done fairly.
[1:06:54] This is why we're going to investigate it, but don't say it was done, it wasn't done.
[1:07:01] And now it's got to go to investigator to make sure that everything is done clearly and
[1:07:11] I think the process has been unfairly and fairly.
[1:07:14] I don't have an issue with that.
[1:07:16] You do.
[1:07:16] You do.
[1:07:18] I absolutely do.
[1:07:19] There is another person that doesn't agree with it.
[1:07:22] It's not up to general.
[1:07:23] You're happy with it.
[1:07:24] Doesn't mean that it's right.
[1:07:27] Don't you get that?
[1:07:28] The person that may so.
[1:07:30] The violated the code of ethics. Since when is he dictating, well I have a sentence, the Gaussian document.
[1:07:35] You had a question. You had a question.
[1:07:37] I am not dictating. I gave options to accept.
[1:07:40] Of course you're dictating.
[1:07:42] Where were my options?
[1:07:43] You put the sheet in the mail.
[1:07:45] When I had a complaint, the sheet is the right.
[1:07:48] Where were my options?
[1:07:50] You wanted me to.
[1:07:51] You want me to.
[1:07:51] Okay.
[1:07:52] Registrar.
[1:07:54] Resistored.
[1:07:54] Spoke.
[1:07:55] Division one.
[1:07:56] You're right, I, Andrew, whatever, I think I've been respectful.
[1:08:03] The vision one, yes, there's a lot of art from a disadvantage.
[1:08:07] He can't hold.
[1:08:10] Yes.
[1:08:11] Division two.
[1:08:13] Division three.
[1:08:14] Yes.
[1:08:15] Division four.
[1:08:16] Yeah, unbelievable.
[1:08:17] No.
[1:08:18] Division seven.
[1:08:22] Where's the one?
[1:08:22] What? Reef? Reef? Yes. It is done. That's no fun.
[1:08:30] All right. So we can waste more time on it later instead of dealing with assertive.
[1:08:36] Dave, we discussed this. No complaints. Honor the reporting of all the rest of the representation of the Zaram. I've had enough of you constantly ridiculing us after we made a vote.
[1:08:51] that is going to stop. And if you continue on doing it, I'm going to cut you off. You want
[1:08:57] to switch? Yeah, point of privilege. You cannot just make statements like that. Just
[1:09:01] out of the blue. Me ridicule. You haven't ridiculed anybody. Here. That's just not true. It's
[1:09:08] So where are we going to make the most of the word of 9-1?
[1:09:14] Motion of 9-1.
[1:09:20] Second by four.
[1:09:22] Second by four.
[1:09:25] All my agreement.
[1:09:26] It is best.
[1:09:30] So today, a declaration for the July 10th storm that came through.
[1:09:36] We talked to the insurance company and there were some people in residence and the park.
[1:09:44] and the nursing homes and stuff like that,
[1:09:48] you could qualify for a petap funding for that.
[1:09:51] So just to make a declaration,
[1:09:53] so our rate pairs can not buy for a petap.
[1:09:57] This is the same thing that we did for the storm last year,
[1:10:02] and earlier this year with the flooding.
[1:10:05] So just in red there would be the proposed motion
[1:10:10] to make that the armament roster important
[1:10:12] They apply to the Statue of Public Safety Agency.
[1:10:15] He designated an eligible assistance area under the under PDAP, which provides financial assistance for
[1:10:23] Australian Central Services and property.
[1:10:26] As a result of damages caused by severe weather storm data July 10.
[1:10:32] I'll make that motion.
[1:10:34] Motion by 7 second by 2.
[1:10:37] All are in it.
[1:10:39] Agreed.
[1:10:41] That's the second move of time.
[1:10:47] Two.
[1:10:49] I'm going to talk to them.
[1:10:51] So David and Sue got a new vote.
[1:10:54] There are two 90 brave.
[1:10:56] In this section, wasn't it?
[1:10:58] We've got to give it me a call last week to note it.
[1:11:03] We've got to add it to the listing for this year.
[1:11:08] And somehow it got missed.
[1:11:11] on there. So, we will already send it to Samla to be honored to be sure that it gets changed
[1:11:17] for 2027. So, the 29.3 amount, that would be exempted for municipal taxes, 11.1998,
[1:11:27] and the school of 6.7755. Anybody have questions on that?
[1:11:35] Well, is it the same person that this kind of happened to, fortunately last year? Is it the same?
[1:11:39] Yes. Okay. So it didn't. Okay. Yeah. I'll make the motion that Council, a
[1:11:43] bait municipal and school tax at Northease 2341-03 West of 3rd, parcel 147-424473,
[1:11:50] in the amount of 1700-9753, and brackets the breakdown due to missed 293 exemptions that this
[1:11:58] property be added to the assessment role for change for 2027. As written. Seconder.
[1:12:05] to all I agree that agreed.
[1:12:13] So this is just the twinner's job to meeting minutes from the July 9 meeting.
[1:12:22] I don't know.
[1:12:26] Both brought her and I were available to attend.
[1:12:29] So, it doesn't place
[1:12:34] updates and information, right, guys.
[1:12:38] Just set that the admins are going to be working on.
[1:12:42] Meeting for August was canceled.
[1:12:51] Right. Yeah. Any questions?
[1:12:55] All right. Now, Steve.
[1:12:57] The RM, so Doug Lake and Laird were represented as guests.
[1:13:03] Are they, do we know what are they showing in the interest and rejoining?
[1:13:09] I'm not sure actually I'll have to
[1:13:13] educate the end-mins and see what I mean.
[1:13:20] Do you know them?
[1:13:21] Yeah, no, there's some talk that that way.
[1:13:28] Is considering that.
[1:13:31] And Laird did have a meeting with him and there was
[1:13:37] two counselors that wanted when the risk are still on the fence.
[1:13:44] I think with Dr. Blake, they kind of just made it clear that they're just putting it on the
[1:13:50] boat for right now until more of structure.
[1:13:56] Which is what we're doing is just working on those agreements.
[1:14:09] 9.4 organized Hamlet a new on-law report the so 472026 motion to replace the repair the door
[1:14:21] and lock as needed
[1:14:29] weren't you going to just look at maybe put it in a cover on that
[1:14:33] it's on or no well replace the repair as needed yeah we're going to leave it up to the person
[1:14:38] I'm looking at it to do that.
[1:14:42] Yeah.
[1:14:43] Okay.
[1:14:44] Whatever.
[1:14:44] Whatever is going to secure the door better as someone's been picking at it.
[1:14:47] If you want the back story for it, someone's been jamming at it, trying to get in.
[1:14:51] So we're going to add deadbolt if required to add a straight plate if required.
[1:14:56] Whatever is required to secure it.
[1:14:59] So that's.
[1:15:00] The motion.
[1:15:03] All seconded.
[1:15:06] Seconded by three. All the agreement.
[1:15:09] Agreed.
[1:15:11] Is Bath?
[1:15:13] Go ahead, Jeff.
[1:15:16] I was agree.
[1:15:19] Oh, okay, you were sorry. I thought I looked on your faces.
[1:15:22] It zoomed in.
[1:15:23] 48.
[1:15:24] I think there was a look on my face, all right.
[1:15:26] Okay. Well, 48. 48, 2026. Motion to tender the prep and staining of complete deck and railing.
[1:15:33] materials can be supplied.
[1:15:45] Second by two all an agreement agreed in his fast 49 2026 motion to preserve motions as delivered.
[1:15:57] Just to continue what we've been doing at the.
[1:16:01] Amwood by motions that are made or written in our minutes.
[1:16:08] We don't have to vote on that that's your internal.
[1:16:12] Okay.
[1:16:17] And then motion 51, 2026 motion to pay expenditures and contracts.
[1:16:24] What was your by seven, second by three, all in agreement?
[1:16:34] It's that.
[1:16:36] And then 51, 2026 to accept the amended minutes of June 29, 2026 meeting.
[1:16:45] Was that 52?
[1:16:47] Yeah, I guess the number didn't increment there.
[1:16:50] So yeah, that would be 52, although it's not written that way.
[1:16:53] So we'll probably have to amend that.
[1:16:55] But yeah, that should be 52.
[1:17:02] Motion by 7 second by 2.
[1:17:07] All on agreement.
[1:17:09] Agreed.
[1:17:10] It's about
[1:17:22] 10.
[1:17:23] Is that all?
[1:17:25] Yeah, that's all the motions.
[1:17:28] Did you put that driveway in on the highway there?
[1:17:33] Is that down now?
[1:17:35] They put down the clay. They haven't asked me to come and expect it. I didn't put it down. The homeowner did. Of course, but I haven't been asked to come and look at it.
[1:17:44] They would have to put gravel on top of it to bring it to where I would accept it. Correct. Like they can't just leave a clay runway, can they?
[1:17:53] So I'm probably not the Ditch Park, not the part that's on our property.
[1:18:01] Isn't that highways?
[1:18:03] No, that's North Access Road.
[1:18:05] That's our M.
[1:18:09] So I guess I'm asking.
[1:18:11] They would need to grab all at least the part that is on, like what's the standard for our, if somebody builds a driveway, what's the standard for it?
[1:18:19] They haven't asked me to come in and spec so I didn't bring it up because they haven't asked they
[1:18:22] So they're not done as far as I'm concerned because they haven't asked me to come look however if they do
[1:18:28] Would they need gravel on there before we would approve it. I would think so, but
[1:18:34] I'm asking it was well number one you should get cold be there to make sure the slopes are right
[1:18:41] Yeah, okay, so once you feel you should you should maybe tell them that
[1:18:47] there should be some gravel on it. And for just maybe ask them if they want, it may
[1:18:53] better that Colby expects a prior putting the gravel on a case of slopes or on.
[1:19:00] So your next step should get Colby get a Colby and get him to take a look at it with you
[1:19:05] and make sure the slope and if he's happy with it then their next step would put gravel on.
[1:19:11] Okay, we'll do. And then it should be done.
[1:19:18] Any other
[1:19:20] issues in there that you're, you're, you're, pay me one okay or you're a while
[1:19:25] singing one okay. I think so there's a few complaints about the gravel on top
[1:19:29] it being dry in a couple of spots, but that's really typical for our, you know, when we
[1:19:33] do this, one complaint about a few in a washboard a bit, I found it smoothed out since, so
[1:19:39] I mean there's a couple little angelations and the thing, it's, it's not asphalt. It's
[1:19:43] that's been 90, so I've been managing those expectations and what we're doing. It's
[1:19:47] control and we make it as smooth as possible. So, yeah, as far as I'm concerned it went, it went great.
[1:19:54] I do have a question about the the hacker operator. It was from the RM. I'm assuming you're going to
[1:20:02] build a Hamlet for his time or is it going under training somehow or something?
[1:20:11] Yeah, so then this time will be out to the annual invoice.
[1:20:15] Okay, so just this time at the hourly rate that he's paid by the RM, very good, and thank you for providing him as well to the RM.
[1:20:31] Yep, that's something else.
[1:20:39] I think it's good.
[1:20:41] Thank you.
[1:20:44] Council, you made a motion to hear my delegation after the decision was rendered.
[1:20:48] I don't intend to go over this again. I just have two quick questions if you'd indulge me.
[1:20:57] I mentioned about the open and about the email that I sent to all you counselors with an option
[1:21:03] when you cost the RM $5,000 and I'm a way to deal with this without having to go through the investigative process.
[1:21:12] Any objections to making that letter, an open letter to council and attaching it to the minutes of today's meeting.
[1:21:20] So that the public can make up their own opinion, their own minds on the options that you have.
[1:21:26] I'm guessing there shouldn't be any problem from council with that.
[1:21:32] Feel free to speak and give your opinions if you'd like.
[1:21:38] I think it's simply because if Chad is okay with it, because it's his complaint.
[1:21:45] It's a small complaint, Roger.
[1:21:47] But it's my complaint.
[1:21:49] It's a fun and bold step, is that correct?
[1:21:54] So you can't see it isn't part of his complaint
[1:21:56] because it's against him.
[1:21:59] If he is, I hear it's one side of it.
[1:22:04] So now my opinion,
[1:22:07] I think it's very clear.
[1:22:09] It's going to go to investigator
[1:22:10] and then what the conclusion will become of that is done.
[1:22:15] I'd like to just stay on topic.
[1:22:16] I'm just asking about the letter. I just want it to be part of the letter.
[1:22:23] I read your letter.
[1:22:27] The public, that letter going on.
[1:22:30] We'll just see this letter and what's been wrote. There will be a written sorry. All of these other discussions we've had in this table with regarding this, regarding numerous things, a lot of the public, because we don't love it. So they will get one piece of the pie and make a judgment on it when they haven't been here to see all the interactions that we've had discussing this.
[1:23:00] do you think it's fair? Well, I think you think it's fair, yes or no, not well, yes or no.
[1:23:07] I, yes or no. Well, I mean, yes or no, simple. Yes, yes, I think it's fair. I'm going to ask you.
[1:23:15] Oh, so I'll just be quiet, buddy. If you're just, yes or no, yes or no, yes or no, yes or no.
[1:23:21] If you only have a very interesting thing that they want all the information, I'm glad to, I'm glad for release all of it.
[1:23:27] to the point. I'm so worried, but do we have our national necessary, but this
[1:23:33] what I didn't want to, I didn't want to legislate all this, I just wanted to answer to the
[1:23:37] question. And I wanted to answer, you couldn't give it either. I think it's fair. Yes, I think
[1:23:42] the letter is all the public needs to know. It's getting to know on the decision, of course,
[1:23:47] continue to spend the $5,000. So yes, Rick, I think it's fair if you publish the letter. I absolutely
[1:23:53] think it's fair. Okay, let's continue on. I have a question. I have a question for you.
[1:24:00] Sorry, I have my hand up for a while. Well, I have my hand up before you started talking.
[1:24:08] Okay, Mr. Division 7. Yeah, so Rick, what you're asking is, is that
[1:24:17] Chad's should have been considered in this before you guys render a decision on it. Is that what you say that negative negative you are
[1:24:28] Put in that statement then. Okay, so what what are you saying that that it's one side it if only the letter is presented is I did not say one side
[1:24:37] Mr. Ben Wall. Okay, what did you say story. I did not
[1:24:43] But specific times in any place or statements, you did that.
[1:24:49] But so what are you saying?
[1:24:52] You can say whatever you want, but you can't put words of what I'm recommending or what I'm discussing.
[1:24:58] I'm asking you to clarify what you said.
[1:25:00] What I said, okay.
[1:25:02] Please clarify what you said.
[1:25:03] Okay.
[1:25:05] Good.
[1:25:05] Please clarify what you said.
[1:25:07] That's what I'm asking for.
[1:25:08] Please clarify it.
[1:25:09] If you misunderstood me, that's your problem.
[1:25:13] I can't understand.
[1:25:15] Sorry.
[1:25:15] Just like my second point that I want to make,
[1:25:17] because I feel this is kind of a lot of the rails here.
[1:25:20] Just what is the time frame for this investigation to be completed?
[1:25:24] How long is it going to take?
[1:25:26] My understanding of the process I've read it over quite clearly.
[1:25:29] It's going to take upwards of two to three months.
[1:25:32] So what I'm wondering, is this just an effort by council and Mr. Mark Krakow
[1:25:37] To extend this past the point where he said that he's going to be resigning
[1:25:41] Past the point where he's going to be held accountable for these actions. Is that what this is?
[1:25:46] No, this is not that way okay, don't do that. I know I can't. I'm just I'm just. I'm that
[1:25:53] Assets me because you and there's another division seven that kind of measles things in and complete
[1:26:01] Makes conclusions all the time point to privilege time
[1:26:05] You can't say where we want to bridge it, chair.
[1:26:08] That's a privilege.
[1:26:09] That's a privilege.
[1:26:10] Point to privilege.
[1:26:12] And you cannot say, just for terms like that.
[1:26:14] So you cannot say our weaseling things because you want to.
[1:26:17] That's a point of privilege.
[1:26:18] You cannot say that.
[1:26:20] I'm asking us to follow the rules as a written out.
[1:26:23] And you're saying that's weaseling.
[1:26:25] No, you're not allowed to say that's a point of privilege on that.
[1:26:28] You're not allowed to say that.
[1:26:31] So we're trying to do this.
[1:26:32] You said weaseling.
[1:26:33] Yes, you did.
[1:26:35] It can close this out on Rick, your point, you bring up a valid point and I've always been
[1:26:40] about full 100% transparency.
[1:26:44] And with that, I would be more than happy to release to the public the complete information
[1:26:50] package that I provided the investigator and a couple of your people from the HR committee
[1:26:56] of how to chance to read.
[1:26:58] If you would want to release that to the public, so they have all the information, I absolutely
[1:27:03] would encourage you to do that. Then they can make a decision based on everything that's in there.
[1:27:08] Every piece of correspondence that I had with Mr. Crifall is in there. They can see that there's
[1:27:15] nothing there. I've asked for specifics on what I did and it can't be provided. Like the public,
[1:27:21] I don't know why this is so difficult. I honestly don't, but I just want to end there.
[1:27:27] I'm going to say it in both of you. I don't know why this is so difficult. This is started out
[1:27:32] That's Lord knows what anymore, but it just keeps on this snowball is getting so big
[1:27:38] you know.
[1:27:40] And you can see here, we've been discussing this now for half an hour and we have got
[1:27:44] little things.
[1:27:46] And I mean, go anywhere.
[1:27:47] This all you would had to have said is, I think in Europe, and like you're there, it is
[1:27:51] okay, in Europe.
[1:27:53] Yes, he's a lot to have one as a resident.
[1:27:57] Can we make the motion of this post for the investigator?
[1:27:59] Yes.
[1:28:00] It's done if counselors are on up to the investigation. Well, but so be it. What was your comment brought you so it is delaying it then what was your comment if you're on on this
[1:28:11] You're gonna what you said you know last no comment. Well, you said it
[1:28:17] Don't so I don't I'll be waiting for that I'll be waiting for your apology because I was gonna happen. It's why I am Ron. You can't wait
[1:28:25] Like I just think it needs to just let it by
[1:28:32] If something inside, well, we'll let them out of the building.
[1:28:36] Any other positions?
[1:28:38] They won't let the public inside.
[1:28:41] Option two.
[1:28:42] No.
[1:28:43] No.
[1:28:44] That's right.
[1:28:45] That was something.
[1:28:47] Here we go.
[1:28:50] This is my official resignation from Council.
[1:28:55] I'll be stepping down.
[1:28:58] I'm doing this at this time to let the RM no publicly
[1:29:01] so that interested rate players have the opportunity to
[1:29:05] eliminate it and run. I will stay on until after our up-to-over
[1:29:12] consummating.
[1:29:15] Reasoning, I've moved out of the RM. I'm no longer a resident of the RM
[1:29:20] my own land, so technically I can be a counselor, but I don't live here anymore.
[1:29:27] But worth noting, we are all here to represent our community and not ourselves.
[1:29:38] Unfortunately, we have allowed human decency to depart from council.
[1:29:47] I mean, I could go on and on about that, but that's all I'll say there, and to quote the late
[1:29:56] Division six Robert Bainton when he resigned here.
[1:30:00] On the paper, it was good at times. I'll say the same. Thank you.
[1:30:09] Why do you need just like we've written, whether I take that or not, but the act says you have to.
[1:30:17] If they write it down, can I ask you to use? Oh, thank you.
[1:30:20] We vision seven for clarifying that. No, can I ask you to do it now?
[1:30:24] When you add it, I'm not comments.
[1:30:27] Division five, could I?
[1:30:28] Is that all that you're going to do?
[1:30:29] You're going to do something and resign now, resign now.
[1:30:32] Just, you did it.
[1:30:33] It's done.
[1:30:34] You want to make the link going on until I'm saying that.
[1:30:37] I'm staying on until someone can take my place
[1:30:39] because I think that's the right thing to do.
[1:30:41] That's going to happen.
[1:30:42] Regardless if you're there or not.
[1:30:44] That's something you're going to take the next two meetings.
[1:30:47] My vote won't be here if I step down now.
[1:30:50] Which is why I'm doing this.
[1:30:51] It's the right thing to do.
[1:30:53] Okay, just do it for now. Yes, the human decency piece. You can't see that
[1:30:59] Yeah, you could explain it, but you can't seem to be there either Rick is that your do we have your resignation out to you state of two meetings
[1:31:06] Go if he resigned you would resign. So can I ask for yours now, too, please?
[1:31:10] You could do whatever you want, buddy. Well, I'm asking for your resignation because you said you would
[1:31:15] Okay, that's enough for this. Yes, it's got nothing to do. Is there a meeting?
[1:31:18] It basically does. Counselor to a signing order. Motion by one to adjourn second by four. Call an agreement.
[1:31:29] So Chad was a decent review to assault his son.