[0:00] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you said, if you don't want me to, you know, if you feel it, it's that sad. I get asked. It's something. Yeah.

[0:37] Welcome. It is Tuesday July 14th. This is the regular meeting of the Sagadhat County

[0:46] commissioners, a quorum being present. I'd like to call the meeting to order.

[0:52] Are there any public comments? Seeing no comments, we'll move on. Amendments to the agenda.

[0:58] and comments from the chair. I just have a couple of comments. One I just like to

[1:07] mention that. Bill Post who was the administrator in Sagittown County from in 2021 to

[1:17] 2022 passed away and I'd like to acknowledge his public service and extend

[1:24] and our condolences to this family.

[1:30] Okay, and another one just on cooling centers.

[1:33] I know our EMA director's not here at present,

[1:39] but it's my understanding from conversation with him

[1:43] that we do list cooling centers

[1:46] on the Saginaw High County or the EMA Facebook page.

[1:50] So, it's another hot one with more hot weather to come, so if anyone is looking for information

[1:58] on cooling centers and what's available, take a look at the Sagittad County Facebook

[2:05] page and if you'd like, give the EMA office a call as well for locations.

[2:14] And finally, just to acknowledge that today is by Steel Day, July 14th.

[2:21] Okay, thanks a lot.

[2:24] Moving on, consent agenda.

[2:26] We have written reports from the Administration Communications EMA and the Sheriff.

[2:34] Commissioners minutes from July 9th, excuse me, June 9th, accounts payable, financial

[2:43] payrolls, payroll warrants for June, the May financials, and the Department of Community

[2:50] Impact Reports from our Indeeds, Pro-Bate, and Communications.

[3:02] So with the motion, we accept.

[3:05] I can approve.

[3:05] Consent Agenda.

[3:06] Okay.

[3:07] And I'll second that.

[3:09] On favor.

[3:17] Thank you very much, which is you, you have received my, I can report for the month of June,

[3:26] your packet. The only thing I would say that's, that's a notice about that is we have seen a number of calls

[3:36] increase, and it's under 500 calls, I think early this year I had mentioned to you that

[3:42] we seem to be off-created, 10-12% fewer calls in what we had over last year, would slow

[3:52] the creeper back out where we normally are. I think by that is because we have, the deputies

[3:59] He's now back on the role of a group of graduate

[4:03] in the group of Justice Cadillac, finishing up

[4:05] their deal program programs.

[4:09] We just passed one on his FTO just last week,

[4:15] and he's now fully on his own deputy faith.

[4:20] And that's, he's doing well.

[4:24] Deputy Barrel is about halfway through his FTO program.

[4:29] program. He is in the reserve stand. He's currently doing his two-week annual

[4:36] training last week and this week. But once he gets back, he'll finish up. He has

[4:41] about two more weeks of FTO training and he'll be on his own. So from a staff and

[4:47] perspective, the things are certainly looking a little bit better. We also have one

[4:53] I'm going to go out with a long-term injury.

[4:59] We hope that by the end of this month, you'll be able to be back on the road.

[5:05] And then another deputy that was called up to a reserve unit and said to the Middle East

[5:15] earlier this year is back.

[5:17] He said his recovery time and he is now back on the road and working so it's really looking up there.

[5:27] We do have one active open position that we check in daily to see if new applicants we have had some applicants.

[5:40] not moving into, we're filtering some of those out and we're moving into setting up an interview process.

[5:49] One is that we want to move further to the program itself.

[5:54] Good process, that is.

[5:57] In addition to that, just in terms of keeping the commissioners informed,

[6:03] on transport vision, there will likely be some changes there as two of the moves of transport

[6:14] team submitted, let us announce in the pending resignation.

[6:23] So not any time immediately, there's still a couple of three months away, but that could

[6:30] be happening in the future, so well.

[6:31] So we'll see how that fits into a bigger plan while we do moving forward with that.

[6:37] Are these retirements?

[6:38] Yes.

[6:39] In both cases.

[6:40] Yeah.

[6:44] So, in addition to that, programs is going strong or moving into the Jail Report.

[6:54] But as of today, we're still seeing a loan, and there's incarcerated from Saga Park County.

[7:04] Today, we have 16.

[7:06] There's a couple more than what we've been apprehend about.

[7:11] The total has made count.

[7:14] The two bridges today is 141.

[7:17] So they're still quite well below what their capacity is.

[7:22] So that's working out well there.

[7:27] Overall, I think these are the sum of months,

[7:30] who don't expect a spike in individuals that are

[7:37] incarcerated, but we're not seeing it really so much this year.

[7:40] I don't offer any explanations for that,

[7:43] as you can see, and it's kind of unusual for the sum of months,

[7:47] but here it goes on.

[7:51] Just a couple other things I just wanted to pass on, last month, on the 24th of June was

[8:02] it made in Penn Drive in somehow, which was in Portland at that time, that's put on by

[8:15] We have Dr. Brian Kalton received a failed prestigious award.

[8:22] They could play a traffic safety champion log one, because Warren was child passenger safety

[8:27] He has a technician who does numerous events in the area, assists families, young families

[8:45] with young children on the proper installation of safety seats, and even advocates a program

[8:54] where they can obtain a free child safety seat,

[9:00] which you know, these costs $300 to $400,

[9:04] so he's able to work with his family's health.

[9:09] And he's been really, really great

[9:14] about assisting the partner.

[9:17] I mean, the Bureau of Public Safety in training

[9:19] on the police officers in this special date.

[9:23] So we're very fortunate and we're very pleased that you'll recognize it in front of a lot of peers

[9:29] We've seen this award. So great

[9:36] That's about it. Okay

[9:39] Question no time. I just just a couple of questions

[9:43] We didn't we met

[9:44] a couple weeks ago now

[9:48] and and get our presentation on enterprise

[9:51] They were going to put a proposal together and submit it.

[9:55] Have you have, I'm looking at both of you, because you would both be,

[9:59] have you received it yet?

[10:00] From that received it, I haven't had a chance to reveal it yet.

[10:03] Okay.

[10:04] Yeah, I'm getting really inquiries about that.

[10:09] I'm comfortable with that.

[10:10] I think, particularly in the short term, as we mentioned, I think it is a

[10:18] It's beneficial to the county, financial aid, and in the long term, it's hard to estimate

[10:29] cost savings down the road 3, 4, 5, 6 years, but you don't want the cost of elephant and

[10:36] purchase engine vehicles.

[10:37] It's going to be many now.

[10:38] But what we do know is that the cost of repairs is not getting any cheaper than that, but it's

[10:43] really a problem.

[10:44] And so if we can turn to his past over, I think we will definitely see the cost statements.

[10:51] So without putting any time on it, I'm not asking you to say, well, we'll have a review

[10:57] in two weeks.

[10:59] But what's our path forward from this point?

[11:03] So you have the proposal.

[11:06] The sheriff is looking at the finance director responsibilities, I guess.

[11:12] So you're looking at your administrator responsibilities looking at it, and what's the next step?

[11:20] Then we would pass it along to you guys assuming there are no questions or anything we need to work out in the room.

[11:26] Okay.

[11:28] And are there, we're just at the beginning of our budget year, obviously.

[11:34] So what does that, would it be implications?

[11:38] So one of the things is there is some lifetime in there, they've sent me a list of vehicles that they would recommend that we replace.

[11:47] We have find a saying on that, but quite frankly, I'm looking at that list.

[11:50] I would agree with all of us.

[11:52] Every one of those vehicles have either over 100,000 miles or just 100,000 miles.

[11:58] So we would look at that list and then we would say what would they replace them with and what do we want in those for equipment?

[12:06] Because some vehicles, you have different, a different setup.

[12:11] If it's like an admin vehicle, it's not going to have an overhead life.

[12:15] It's not going to have, you know, as many LEDs and other things.

[12:22] So, you know, we just have to come up with, okay, we want to replace this vehicle with this vehicle.

[12:29] We want this sort of outfit back in here.

[12:32] That's where we're at right now, looking at that.

[12:35] So that'll factor into the final price and

[12:40] exactly and then what they would have to do is find that vehicle, get that

[12:44] vehicle purchase, so whatever is it brought to there, their office nearby,

[12:52] because they have this game on Crosser Country, so we want, you know,

[13:04] it's very

[13:04] It's not already been state-of-main in the international community, but they will find that vehicle and they get it to an outlet.

[13:12] And again, we can decide, we wanted to do that and tear it out of our experiences, so that's a couple of months process.

[13:21] So you can see that this is going to get backed up in relatively far, even if we give it a great light today.

[13:28] Yeah, it's going to be, uh, we probably have to pay for our own projects in those two or three months.

[13:36] Phil is something that if we do put the entire fleet through this project or property,

[13:42] uh, that you'll be able to replace this very old vehicle that has the probably 130 miles on it through this,

[13:50] as well. He does have the probably $30,000 in his budget that before you be out there,

[13:55] is currently available, but he could use that to replace the other one and pass that one down and set it.

[14:04] It would almost like take all the money set aside in the county for any vehicles and I can't even went on top of it and use that,

[14:13] because it would all be included, that would include transport, that would include domestic violence and the DA's office,

[14:20] the creakations. I mean ideally that's that's not what we make the most of the

[14:28] science as close to you should have happened. So I mean we will.

[14:39] I don't know. One of

[14:42] the things I should about Malcolm homeless talking about some of this the other day

[14:47] some kind of concerns about it, but I haven't got all the details, but some

[14:51] Some counties have already had some kind of, but accidents didn't have some kind of,

[15:00] The problem is the insurance part. So I'll get more information from Elm, Almbert. Okay, exactly what they were talking about. Right, because we did those work questions. We did ask, and they were, he did, presentation, at least, and did. And I was about, you know, an insurance coverage and he was the way we utilize the risk pool on. Right. So all the other comments have been already in the program. In the last and risk pool. So,

[15:30] They have been involved with things that I don't know, or all the details, so I'll find out before this is very well.

[15:40] We have allowed, but now since you've got three parties involved now, you know, at least in an agency.

[15:49] Right, several different outlets in the state.

[15:54] Do we, just getting back to your comment on the EMA vehicle, do we, do we have a policy on setting the sheriff's cars aside and transport aside?

[16:07] We still have five vehicles, is that right?

[16:38] I thought we had five in transport and we do a transport, we do have five in transport.

[16:45] And I thought it was five other things on account of ten.

[16:48] But regardless of the count, do we have a policy on those vehicles, how they're assigned

[16:56] and to whom?

[16:59] They're purchased through the budget process, but directly by the departments, we don't

[17:04] I know we can put that item on our future agenda, you know, it just has to do with, you

[17:20] know, administrative vehicles, support vehicles, I guess, I'm not sure how to characterize them

[17:27] And who gets them, and what the justification is, for them to wrap this up, is

[17:40] probably something we kind of have on this written policy or process on how we do that.

[17:56] but there's very much standard where we're going to get $100,000, $110,000.

[18:02] We're making spare vehicles and then we're rolling on that way.

[18:06] Oh, we used to get in rather on between $115 and $100,000.

[18:10] Sometimes we won't.

[18:11] Yeah.

[18:12] One of the things that I had asked for this was a previous company administrator

[18:19] and we would like to request again maybe we look at a policy on disposing of the kind of property.

[18:34] That's a little ambiguous for me.

[18:40] And, you know, we get people who want these vehicles, sometimes we can, we've entered into

[18:46] contracts with individuals for services, we've also sold them at a very reasonable price

[18:55] to municipalities within our county, where they extend the service of the vehicle.

[19:01] That's worked well.

[19:02] We don't really have any.

[19:04] Yeah, no, no, that's a good point.

[19:06] That's a good point.

[19:06] Yeah, and I know you, in the past, you've come to us and essentially swapped a vehicle

[19:14] that you were getting rid of for services that, you know, that person was going to provide.

[19:20] So we probably should have a policy on, you know, how we go about that.

[19:27] Okay.

[19:28] Great.

[19:28] Thanks.

[19:29] Thanks, sure.

[19:30] And, well, I should just one more thing before you get off.

[19:32] I just in light of the events down in Bitterford over the last couple of days, I mean I think

[19:43] I'm comfortable with Sagittahawk, with Sagittahawk's position on how the sheriff interacts

[19:53] relates to federal law enforcement but if you could just reiterate what our position is,

[20:00] is what we do here in Sagitton High County.

[20:02] Thank you, you know, I'm sure folks are kind of concerned

[20:07] about this or certainly have questions about it.

[20:10] And I would say our position has always been one,

[20:13] number one, to maintain safety for community members,

[20:19] safety for our law enforcement,

[20:20] and also safety for public, safety for first responders

[20:24] for us and board.

[20:26] That's first and foremost.

[20:28] We don't engage in forces any federal law, we can't, we're not, we, we're both of offices

[20:37] basically, limits us to enforcing state law. And by statute that is. And so, you know,

[20:46] there's a jurisdiction on that. But we would assist in so much as making sure that any law

[20:53] enforcement officer regardless of what level of law enforcement they worked for was able to drop safe.

[20:59] But beyond that, we would not engage with federal law enforcement and enforcement federal law,

[21:11] including immigration laws, as just not enough work.

[21:18] And so that's our position on that.

[21:22] We want to make sure our community is safe.

[21:24] We want to make sure the public is safe.

[21:27] But we also want to make sure that if there are federal law enforcement officers in the area,

[21:33] they're safe.

[21:35] Unfortunately, we're not always granted the advanced notice of when or where they are.

[21:43] And that can be problematic, particularly like that.

[21:48] You know, I always thought we were supposed to all be on the same team on the same

[21:54] pace, but we're not always, and I can see that as being problematic, but I have no control

[22:02] over that.

[22:03] No?

[22:04] Okay.

[22:05] Great.

[22:06] Thank you very much.

[22:07] All right.

[22:09] Okay.

[22:10] Jill.

[22:11] Administrators.

[22:12] Yes.

[22:13] Edmund and facilities are working on multiple requests for proposals right now.

[22:17] we have, we're working on flooring painting in the Fort House Generator.

[22:23] The search for long hair and parking lot repair were both unsuccessful, unfortunately.

[22:29] We got absolutely nothing for the parking lot repair.

[22:33] And we're hoping that the person who does the sealant would be able to just patch it

[22:36] a little bit for us to kind of get us through.

[22:39] And for long hair, the one bit received by Jorgensen was too high.

[22:44] So our facilities director has been taken care of that for now and

[22:50] We have been working with the new cleaning contractor. He's going through the background check process

[22:55] They've all been fingerprinted and now they're doing the seizures training

[22:58] So they'll be able to work in our protected areas, and they should be starting quite soon, which is very exciting

[23:04] They help for all of us

[23:07] The communications powers are progressing all the equipment is hung at all sites except for Pittsburgh

[23:13] All remaining sets to the system are all related to CNP.

[23:18] The restoration to power in West Fath is underway.

[23:21] The paperwork has been submitted for George Town,

[23:24] and both him inspection will be tomorrow.

[23:28] Will which also needs to be inspected,

[23:29] but we do not have a date for that yet.

[23:34] But which will come online in the next several weeks,

[23:36] once all that is complete.

[23:38] That inspection is for electrical.

[23:40] Yes.

[23:43] The site work is in process in Pittsburgh. The tower is going to be delivered this week,

[23:47] which is exciting. And Bernstein, sure, has advised us not to do anything with the former subcontractors

[23:54] equipment that's on site. RCM was able to move it, so it's not in the way in preventing

[24:00] work, but they felt that it's RCM's responsibility as their main contractor.

[24:06] IT remains a challenge.

[24:08] Just as we know, we have implemented the managed service provider that was passed in the budget and that's been going very

[24:15] well. There were a few hiccups that needed to be ironed out but SJ Rollins was great and responsive, they were very quick to learn our

[24:22] systems and want to help in any way they can without a full-time IT person. John has been managing the day to day and we're going to begin

[24:31] interview process for an IT director this week. We assembled a panel of multiple stakeholders.

[24:37] We have redone from the VAC and the members of the Sheriff's Office, EMA, communications,

[24:43] and John Bukoff as well. Do you have some work on the inquiries on the position? Yes.

[24:50] Some worries? We have had two and we have currently won the interview schedule.

[24:55] Okay.

[24:57] As far as boards and committees, the Board of Assessment Review has no active appeals.

[25:03] The Board of Health is changing their funding cycle to 18 months now, and I apologize,

[25:09] but I'm not fleshed out in my report here, I have written that at home and didn't say for

[25:13] some reason.

[25:13] But I think it's 18 months to put it on the same cycle as that.

[25:18] Yes,

[25:22] to put it on the same cycle as that.

[25:25] the progress of the collaboration with GBRJ and Knox County, instead of the district six

[25:30] collaborative, they're thinking mid-course jail authority now and the committee will meet monthly.

[25:36] It consists of county administrators, commissioners, and sheriffs as well as representatives at

[25:40] the state level for the more technical matters.

[25:43] Our first meeting was June 18th, and the next is scheduled for July 23rd, and I'll report

[25:48] on that activity each month in my administration.

[25:51] For staffing, we have openings for one patrol deputy, 1-9-1-1 dispatcher, and the edG director.

[25:58] Thank you.

[25:59] That's all.

[26:03] I just have a funny little report here.

[26:05] Okay.

[26:06] June of 2025, but July of 2025, about the upgrades.

[26:11] That's all right.

[26:13] And, well, if you listen to any of this things, and it really sticks,

[26:21] that most of it was supposed to be all up and down in June of last year, that's what the

[26:28] original report said, so, you know, so the reports are only as good as the people

[26:36] work in there, and that's really the role that goes the one in Pittsburgh.

[26:46] I don't know

[26:47] why someone hasn't shot us down,

[26:50] I mean it's-

[26:51] It looks like a 90 degree angle straight up.

[26:53] I mean, because of the steepness of the road.

[26:56] It's not going straight, so it's not going straight up.

[26:59] It's probably 40 degrees, you know, it's 40 degrees,

[27:02] that's all about.

[27:03] And it's mud.

[27:05] It isn't like it's anything solid.

[27:08] So if we ever have to get out there to do,

[27:11] if there's any emergency work in the winter time,

[27:14] you're walking from the main road.

[27:17] If you had to tire, you're going to be off the road

[27:20] because it's really skinny and it's got a huge ditch on both sides so you would

[27:27] have just barely enough room for a plot if you had to do that. But anyways now

[27:33] everything you guys met with David Libby? Yes. About a possible cell phone? Yes we did.

[27:42] Yes I did. I talked to both of you individuals I didn't think about. We didn't meet

[27:46] Dave's living last week about getting coverage, self coverage on the towers, and he is very

[27:52] hopeful that we would be able to find people for all of our sites, and he's going to be

[27:57] putting together a proposal for us.

[27:59] He cannot have it ready for this meeting, but we'll have it for next week.

[28:03] Thank you.

[28:05] He is going to propose in his proposal.

[28:09] I'm sure he'll cover his reimbursement.

[28:13] Yes.

[28:14] Yeah, there are a couple of different options that he has.

[28:18] And then we have some decisions to make,

[28:21] because we, Georgetown gets the share of any,

[28:27] there's West Act, you don't have to remind me.

[28:29] I'm not positive I do it back at the point.

[28:31] Back at the point.

[28:32] Yeah.

[28:33] That's all my advice to do this too.

[28:36] Okay.

[28:38] Very good.

[28:39] Very good, thanks.

[28:40] Thanks, I did have a couple of questions and now they've gone out of my head, but if

[28:48] I come back to them, if they circle back around, I will ask.

[28:56] Okay, thank you.

[28:58] Action items, we have an item to formalize, I guess, as the way to say it, we have to accept

[29:08] a drug for for the true funds in the amount of

[29:12] $1,218 and

[29:18] Who does this come from anyway? This is

[29:22] This is related to a case in which there was an arrest in the individual was arrested for

[29:28] trafficking. Yeah

[29:30] the drugs and so the the the cash that was

[29:34] is confiscated

[29:39] as part of the arrest, this is what that is.

[29:43] And comes back to the county.

[29:45] And in this particular case, yes.

[29:47] Yeah.

[29:47] Even if all of that, because this was the case,

[29:50] that was handled solely by our agency.

[29:53] Yeah.

[29:53] We get all of the, all of the company on this.

[29:57] So do I have a motion?

[29:58] Motion will allow the change.

[30:00] Parliament, the sign, the document, the four of which are on, $1,218. Okay. Intercessing that?

[30:07] Oh, second, ma'am, I'm favor. Thank you. We have two hiring decisions. One is to, for

[30:18] Olivia Williams, to the position of staff accountant.

[30:23] We created this position in the current budget,

[30:28] because our responsibilities of our previous

[30:33] responsibilities are a finance director

[30:35] that are now being kind of bifurcated in a way.

[30:43] So our finance director, who is also our administrator,

[30:47] will now have a finance, a staff account, an assistant to run books, essentially.

[30:55] Do you want to give us a quick background?

[30:58] Yes.

[30:59] I went with Olivia at the end of June and she is very bright.

[31:04] She's about five years or so of experience.

[31:08] Mostly on the banking side but in all sorts of auditing and compliance and budgeting,

[31:14] in all sorts of reconciliation and accounting when she was great and I think she could handle

[31:19] anything we threw at her.

[31:21] And she's very interested in the government accounting and she has done her past seven

[31:26] projects and you better be an accountant.

[31:29] And we have her resume?

[31:31] Yes, you guys know those.

[31:32] In our packets.

[31:34] Live motion.

[31:37] When does she, when can she stop?

[31:39] She's not giving her two weeks notice yet just pending this, so.

[31:43] Okay, so I could say September.

[31:46] I would say probably, I would say late July or early August.

[31:52] Okay, they commotioned to hire Liberty Williams for Staff Accounting, standing in early August.

[31:59] And she becomes a probationary hire.

[32:03] Yes, she had a six month, six month career.

[32:06] and let's hope that, you know, she's able to alleviate

[32:11] part of your workload.

[32:12] That would be nice.

[32:13] And get you to focus on administrative responsibilities.

[32:17] Not that you can't handle both.

[32:21] We have a motion on a second home favor.

[32:24] Okay.

[32:25] And second hiring decision.

[32:29] We authorize the hire of Elizabeth Pratt

[32:32] to the position of, I don't know, one dispatcher effective to I-20, and this is one of two vacancies.

[32:40] Yes, we have one.

[32:42] And this one remain like, do I have a motion?

[32:45] Sure.

[32:46] Motion I, Elizabeth Pratt, position 9-1-1 dispatcher, starting in the I-20.

[32:54] I'll second that.

[32:55] All in favor?

[32:56] Great.

[32:59] They'll come to the next meeting to introduce themselves.

[33:04] Okay, next right action item award, parking lot seal job, we do have a proposal for that.

[33:14] One bid that came in a little bit higher than what we had in the budget.

[33:19] He had phoned us for the budget.

[33:20] That was before gas prices went crazy before us.

[33:24] There's petroleum in the sealant.

[33:25] So he's priced about $3,000, $3,500 more than what we have in the budget.

[33:30] We'll have to take back from another one.

[33:34] And what's he, all he's going to do here is seal for $15.

[33:38] This is a contract amount is $15,825.

[33:44] He'll seal both and then remake all on this as well.

[33:47] OK, and that's what we've done previously.

[33:49] Yes, we've tried to do that every other year,

[33:51] but now it has been almost four years since it was last time.

[33:58] And this is the same vendor who's done work previously.

[34:04] Comments?

[34:05] Got it?

[34:07] No.

[34:08] Okay.

[34:08] Do I have a motion?

[34:10] Motion to hire Bill's driveway seal for the seal.

[34:13] I cannot.

[34:14] The price of $15,000.

[34:18] $15,825.

[34:20] I'm not going to pay sales tax.

[34:21] Oh, you don't do sales tax, you're absolutely right.

[34:24] I didn't see that. So this is going to be modified to take the service. Thank you. Okay, all in favor, except

[34:39] that bid

[34:41] We have a quote from the main prison store for a table

[34:51] I assume this is this is covered under covered by our insurance

[34:55] set a one. Yes, it will be covered on the back.

[35:01] Can I give any? It's covered by insurance. I'm okay.

[35:05] But 10 feet is a foot and I have bigger than this one. Yes. Okay, so that's kind of put it

[35:09] almost against the wall up there. It will be a little bit wide on each side. We can still scoot.

[35:18] We could ask them to do a little bit smaller. We could ask for nine or nine or nine or nine.

[35:21] seven and a half, which is what this is.

[35:24] They're building it in fact, so.

[35:28] Before there were a part of the better tool.

[35:31] Fourteen.

[35:34] Four.

[35:37] It's definitely a little bit that's odd.

[35:40] Okay, I'm all rid of that.

[35:42] It's 120 inches overall, which is 10 feet.

[35:46] This is, what did you say?

[35:47] Seven and a half.

[35:49] So it doesn't really extend.

[35:50] It doesn't really extend that.

[35:52] I'm trying to think it even though it's just 20.5 feet isn't it?

[35:55] My mouth's off there?

[35:55] Yeah.

[35:56] Yeah.

[35:57] So it's just a foot out of the chin.

[35:59] Yeah, it's on the inside.

[36:00] So I'm going to have squares on the pull-off.

[36:04] I spoke with Charlie directly before the meeting and he requested that they change it from

[36:09] five drawers across to three so each commissioner has their own drawer.

[36:14] Okay.

[36:18] That works.

[36:19] There's a modesty panel.

[36:20] So I can learn short.

[36:22] I can work with me,

[36:27] and wood is, which would be nice, it would be very nice.

[36:35] I've been to the prison store up there, I've seen some of their wood work.

[36:41] It's great, it's very, very finished, very professional.

[36:45] And this is a much better price than anything that we've seen shopping around.

[36:50] and it was for a much better quality product as well.

[36:53] Like this is very reasonable.

[36:54] In my change, it's finding that when we change

[36:55] from the three rows or five rows to three,

[36:58] but I wouldn't think significantly.

[37:00] Yeah, that's great.

[37:03] And not that it has any impact on whether we decide

[37:07] on this bit or not, but where does the money

[37:09] from the person's short go?

[37:11] It goes back into the work, the work.

[37:15] Yeah, the programs.

[37:16] The programs, okay.

[37:17] Yeah, it stays with you.

[37:18] It's not declared surplus and shipped up to Augusta.

[37:22] No, they use it to purchase materials and equipment and things that they need to continue

[37:30] that.

[37:30] That's great.

[37:31] And I'll give credit where it's due.

[37:32] This was Jason's idea.

[37:34] Yeah.

[37:35] Contacting the Brisbane story.

[37:37] So it's a great idea.

[37:38] Thank you.

[37:39] You've already proved that there's an A or it felt good?

[37:43] You've already justified your higher existence.

[37:47] Yes. Thank you very much. Okay, so all we're doing here is reviewing the quote. Do we have to vote to?

[37:57] You can vote to accept it or accept it with a modification.

[38:00] Of course you can accept the proposal.

[38:01] Yep. We have a motion to accept the proposal.

[38:05] So a lot of biotech and free draws from five?

[38:07] Oh, yeah. That's okay with me. Let's first draw.

[38:12] I don't know what Charlie would do with his drawers.

[38:18] So we have a motion. I'll second it on favor. Great. Thank you. And thanks to the chief deputy for the idea.

[38:32] Last action item will authorize the transfer of $3,203 from DA over time to the victim witness

[38:43] advocate wages.

[38:44] Yes.

[38:45] When we were going through and putting in our F-27 in V-8, 2000 and I'll call it an oversight

[38:52] in the budget for the victim witness advocate lines, it was their same wages.

[38:59] We've asked the Cold War.

[39:01] Without the Cold War.

[39:02] We didn't catch that because it was rolled together this year

[39:05] whereas it was separate for years.

[39:08] So the three adjustments essentially

[39:12] was to cover the Cold War.

[39:13] Yes, exactly.

[39:15] For those two conditions.

[39:16] It's not a paid increase.

[39:18] It's just the Cold War for those three positions

[39:20] and that still leaves about $1800 in their overtime line,

[39:23] which should be okay.

[39:26] and I spoke with Chandra and she understands that we'll have to just watch there overtime.

[39:30] Yeah. Okay. Three of the motion.

[39:37] Motion off.

[39:38] Transfer of a 323 dollars, distribute attorney all the time to victim witness at

[39:44] good wages. Okay, I'll second that, hold on favor.

[39:51] Discussion item, I guess we've already

[39:52] done it right? Well, a little bit. We are talking about now that we're going to be getting a lovely

[39:57] new table that's fitting up the formality maybe we should have some matching chairs or something nice

[40:04] that we can also use the insurance money for we have funds left over for that as well yeah

[40:10] so Erin had thought maybe one chairs when I spoke with Charlie he was thinking

[40:16] wooden arms with a leather that you can raise and lower and recline

[40:26] What's that your thoughts on this I'm okay with my little German but it's all to you

[40:33] Well, I think to say I'm okay with my I mean this is Charlie's chair my little chair as well

[40:39] But I do see the advantage of getting you know getting the magic chairs if insurance covers it

[40:46] If you can find something suitable, give anything in particular that any

[40:53] sky will that you'd like or any features you'd like them to have, we can see

[40:56] up to that. I agree that we have a timer on it that

[41:02] I agree with Charlie on the adjustability of the chair. I mean I can be a small guy

[41:11] and Todd and Charlie are bigger guys.

[41:18] Something like that. Something wood, I would like wood, but you know if you want to show us samples or something like that.

[41:28] Yeah. The other thing we talked about was whether it would be possible or maybe we have one as a symbol of the county.

[41:35] You know, you have it is possible for them to put the seal on the tables now and because it says a modif would it what they call it a modif space panel and I don't know

[41:47] In a point to put a seal of the county on the front of the table with good. I'm not even sure if the camera camera angle goes in that direction

[41:58] But right, our esteemed participants in our meeting would certainly see it.

[42:07] That's the only other thing I would like to know.

[42:09] I know they are people who are doing that, so I think it's not that big of a problem.

[42:13] Yeah.

[42:14] Okay.

[42:15] All right.

[42:15] Sounds good.

[42:16] Thank you.

[42:19] Okay.

[42:20] Commissioner's comments.

[42:22] Commissioner Crosby is not present.

[42:24] I don't have anything to add on tumors at this point.

[42:33] Commissioner McPhee, the County Commissioner's Association Executive Board of Risk pool.

[42:39] And if we manage it, it's fine.

[42:42] Anything else we can find?

[42:44] Yeah.

[42:45] All right.

[42:46] I'll start out with our Knox County Emergency Agreement.

[42:50] It was June 18th at Rockland.

[42:53] discussion with the bill that was dropped last year and it was LB 1950. It was a bill with

[42:59] a lot of counties to join Lincoln County, Lincoln, Sagittall, Multigilatory. It was

[43:04] sponsored by, at the time, Currier, Waldo, BB, Center of Knox and Rennie of Lincoln and

[43:12] Teplor Sagittall. The reason it fails because of complaint from Lincoln, Sagittall, Jail

[43:18] authority that we had no knowledge of the bill until it was posted and it got dumped.

[43:26] None of the people that were on the bill had even considered talking to the jail authority.

[43:32] They thought it was all done.

[43:34] They thought that we were pushing for it.

[43:36] So now we use in that, basically, that same bill as a template to make a new bill.

[43:44] And we're waiting for the time for some middle to be after the elections in November.

[43:50] We reviewed the SMIT report for guidelines for a timetable that we need to complete

[43:57] prior to a remurder, a part of their report in the back of it gave a time limited timetable.

[44:04] So a contact and a way map will be to discuss that, and if he has anybody with real experience

[44:11] so I'm doing this kind of thing, and if not, we'll have to branch out to find somebody

[44:16] that does. Discussed possible makeup of board bylaws in a new government agreement. Discussed

[44:23] about the use of knock facilities, there was concern for converting it from traditional

[44:30] use to something else, and at a future they needed to be turned back into a jail of the cost

[44:36] of the unrealistic.

[44:39] It was some discussion on transport and how it was presently working.

[44:43] The next meeting is scheduled for July 23rd at 2 p.m. in Rockland.

[44:48] Knox County doesn't like driving to Wisconsin, so we have to go to Rockland.

[44:54] Just to reiterate, Commissioner P. Joe.

[45:01] Chief deputy, Jason, or representing, do you attend? No,

[45:09] not these. Okay, but those three. So I would ask Jill to attend all the other finance directors and leadership people out there. So Peter, just Peter go? No.

[45:25] Here we go from Lincoln, I don't know where the person is from, but they have a finance

[45:31] person there also.

[45:34] Okay, June 23rd, I hadn't attended a select persons meeting in Georgetown and they had

[45:40] concerns of cell phone coverage in the use of our tower of cell phone service.

[45:47] At the same time, I get noticed from Westport Island that they were in conversations with

[45:53] with US cellular. We have a new people out down there to put our tower up on the very

[46:00] south end of Westport. So if they could pull that off before we could get our stuff in

[46:05] line, we might get bumped because the south end of Westport's rate is I-5 pounds, and that's

[46:11] where our service problem is. So I contacted Jill that moved the David Lilly thing along to

[46:18] try to get us to have the jump on them, because they were going to make a charter tower so

[46:23] So you don't have to jump through so many hooks.

[46:26] So we might have to jump on them on that.

[46:30] Who's proposing the town you are selling?

[46:33] Westport.

[46:34] You are selling or went to Westport online?

[46:37] Who's going to build a tower?

[46:39] You are selling?

[46:40] You are selling.

[46:40] They like to own their own stuff so they can run it off.

[46:46] OK.

[46:47] I had an event ready in August 26 on the gas stop.

[46:49] against committee meeting with MCCA office, still discussing the Convention on the Sunday

[46:56] River.

[47:01] So I first had a meet with Lincoln, I had a meet with Lincoln's alternate, Joan Swartz.

[47:11] She had many questions about the operation of the jail and wanted more rent forward on the

[47:15] structured administrative, make up and how it functions in certain two separate counties

[47:19] would work and how the jail authority is how to countable. So you had a list of many questions on July 7th. I attended the Lincoln County Commission's meeting at the panel girl's courthouse for their 250th anniversary of the town of which we were vitably

[47:41] County at that time and that was they had probably as at least 40 people in that meeting and they had

[47:49] chosen the courthouse afterwards. So I ate their meat in that York County jail and

[47:58] Alfred at their training facility. The first pool in the MCA had their monthly meeting in York

[48:04] County, and their new offer funded facility, $24 million is what we use for the event.

[48:13] Had much success at the risk pool of making $2,000 donation of the MCCA for sponsorship

[48:20] at the convention, had to request the bond rate question.

[48:24] The same discussion was brought up at your early meetings, repeated by a local vote.

[48:30] So, I don't know what the timeline is, but keep having reboots, but it was kind of like

[48:38] the risk pool was donating to ourself, so it was like, it didn't, it just really makes

[48:45] no sense, but that's what they attempted to do, at the MCHCA meeting, same day, discussed

[48:54] us both the HR data lab on the station survey, so there was an outfit that came to us and

[49:01] wanted to do a survey of all the counties. But it turns out, you know, there's a fee

[49:06] for it. It was like $35,000 fee. That we would have to bear our staff to give them the

[49:13] information so they could sell the information back to us. So it was like, yeah, this doesn't

[49:19] sound like we're able to deal with that, so they would give you a 15% discount if you

[49:26] read to a bunch of live 15th, so and if we read by July 15th they'd make a 4,000 donation

[49:33] to the MCCA convention to be a sponsor. So I have to be pushing and line this up and right

[49:41] now it's stable, so I don't see it really going anywhere because the Southern, like York County,

[49:48] They base all of their surveys on New Hampshire and Massachusetts, nothing here, so we would do nothing for them.

[49:56] And in all the counties, all we don't want to be involved for the opposite reason.

[50:00] So, do we want to be involved?

[50:05] I don't think so.

[50:06] The end isn't that next to it.

[50:10] It would only be good for until your next grade.

[50:13] So if we were to contract, so every...

[50:15] However, everybody's contracts were actually for the every three months of the update,

[50:21] the other technical problem, and the person has never done it before.

[50:26] It's like a startup business that once used us for a trial run.

[50:34] And then there was other questions asked, but what happens if the county doesn't want to do it?

[50:37] And they said, we'll just make them do it through the FOAA procedure.

[50:42] but you would have to pay, there would be a bill booked to that also.

[50:46] So, you said it's capable, but because right now it's stable,

[50:50] but it will be surely available for the next meeting.

[50:53] And they know they have their proper amount of votes.

[51:00] I would say July 8th had a jail party meeting and I'd answer many of the questions

[51:07] and brought to the evil looking drone sports,

[51:10] assigned to the new people of the committees,

[51:12] and asked everybody would be able to buy laws for errors

[51:15] for emissions, and discuss the next meeting,

[51:17] also updated on our contact tomorrow.

[51:21] There's a live night.

[51:22] I went to the local emergency plan in Newton held

[51:24] and rushed back.

[51:26] They had discussed that about the Colbert team,

[51:28] which is as it is, waste came.

[51:32] And in some time, in the last week or so,

[51:35] So they found an issue following a fire extinguisher,

[51:40] 1940 version, fire extinguisher from a cell of some of its own.

[51:44] It was basically, it has to be heated to go off.

[51:48] So it's own little individual unit.

[51:50] But inside the thing is, it's causing gas, basically.

[51:55] So they were trying to figure out how to handle it,

[51:58] had never seen one before, and how to dispose of it.

[52:02] So that was, I think that was my goal.

[52:05] I guess, sorry, just back on the HR thing, as our representative authorize to put us

[52:21] into a contractual relationship, which essentially costs us money without leaving

[52:34] or so far away

[52:37] from that. I

[52:42] don't see any problem.

[52:45] We're not spending money yet. We have no plan to spend

[52:48] money on this. So far no money is spent or okay to be spent. I mean, they would have to

[52:53] come back to us. That committee can't spend any money. Okay. You're just in discussion.

[53:25] I don't think I did not get it in time for you guys to have it in your packets, but ice

[53:30] that is with Judge Barrett's and the Register of Laws and Stops approval and final say

[53:36] in the annual statistics for the probate board.

[53:44] You don't have a yet, Joe Lezzan, your email, I did a getting a sign for it to be a book.

[53:48] What I gave you was our monthly, because this is an annual for FY26.

[53:53] And in that report, you're going to see how the work done in the work is in our office.

[53:57] what kind of work we've done for statistics.

[54:00] I would say, now, four locations are just to give you

[54:04] a summary of what I said.

[54:07] There's no numbers in it, about the money in here.

[54:10] There's none, but it's all about the statistics

[54:12] that are important.

[54:15] No way, no.

[54:17] It's very interesting.

[54:18] It's fine.

[54:19] It was fun to do.

[54:20] I want to add one things.

[54:22] True.

[54:22] Go ahead.

[54:23] Yep.

[54:24] I've been drafted to get on the access

[54:26] That's our Perkins township from the Perkins township, which would be swan's island.

[54:33] Right now they've received state money to have a boat on weekends or Saturdays, I guess

[54:42] it is at this point, but they want to try to get it so it's more of a whole season.

[54:48] So I've been drafted to be on that.

[54:50] Yeah.

[54:50] Where do you take stuff?

[54:53] So you can just appeal to the constituents that you have announced on that one.

[54:58] Yeah.

[54:59] I get 100% offer.

[55:01] I'm not saying that.

[55:03] The deer, the deer are all so close.

[55:07] Yeah, I saw the story on that grant.

[55:11] I mean, it's a valuable asset that's not being used for anything.

[55:16] Absolutely.

[55:16] Right.

[55:16] Because I told, uh, 2200 acres, the paths and campus sites and buildings and so did other

[55:24] things.

[55:24] No, I think it should be used.

[55:26] It's great that they have the grant.

[55:28] The story did.

[55:29] It was pretty clear that it's a one year, that's a one season.

[55:33] Right.

[55:34] Uh, grant and they're going to look for, you know, funding to maintain the program, um, into,

[55:41] into next summer.

[55:48] I'm still trying to think of the question I had for you, Joe, but can I apologize for that?

[55:55] I'm joking.

[55:56] I know where to find you.

[55:58] Okay.

[55:59] Any other business?

[56:02] Do I have a motion to adjourn?

[56:04] So I'll second that.

[56:06] All right.

[56:07] All right.

[56:07] Thank you very much.

[56:09] Thank you.

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