[0:13] Good

[1:53] evening. This is Tuesday, August 18, 2026 at 6 p.m. This meeting will be conducted in person

[2:01] in the Sanford City Council chambers and via remote video, until a conference pursuant

[2:05] to one, MRSA, Section 403B2D and Section 6 of the Sanford Rules of Procedure.

[2:13] Members of the public may join the meeting in person or remotely using the information posted on the meeting calendar on the city's website.

[2:21] Members of the public may also submit comments via the website under government slash the council, slash contact the council.

[2:30] Would you all please join me for a pledge of allegiance?

[2:37] Please

[2:52] join me for a moment of silence.

[3:11] And now for roll call.

[3:13] Councilor Plant, President, Councilor Hitchcock.

[3:16] President.

[3:16] Councilor Trench-Montaine.

[3:17] President.

[3:18] Councilor Hanselman.

[3:19] President.

[3:20] Councilor Martell.

[3:21] President.

[3:21] Deputy Mayor Hurley.

[3:22] President.

[3:23] And I am Mayor Brink.

[3:24] Also President, our City Manager Steve Buck and Executive Administrator Larissa Ricketts.

[3:30] And whoa, it's nice to see you guys here.

[3:33] here. We'll get to you in a minute. All right. First order to approve the minutes of the

[3:39] regular City Council meeting held on August 4th, 2028. And I have a motion please. And

[3:45] still move Madam Mayor. In a second. Pete. Oh second. All those in favor. Thank you. And

[3:53] now we have, I think we have at least two subcommittees or three. So Nate will start with you. Sure.

[4:01] So, I'll report on the land bank that met last week on the 11th, the day is all sort of Wednesday, the 12th, 12th, 12th.

[4:12] Yeah, something like that. They all sort of blend together.

[4:16] So, in the morning of that day, we discussed a couple of matters, first and foremost.

[4:22] The 217 Old Mill Road which we've already been declared dangerous is slated for demolition.

[4:27] And we don't have a date yet.

[4:28] The company we're working with has to get back to us.

[4:32] If there was some sort of delay,

[4:34] I don't fully remember the delay,

[4:35] but there is a bit of delay,

[4:36] but that should be taken care of here soon.

[4:40] 102 channel lane was another property

[4:42] we had declared previously dangerous.

[4:44] The property owners themselves

[4:45] have actually taken upon themselves

[4:46] to do a good enough demolition from our perspective

[4:51] in the sense that they left some of the foundations

[4:54] intact, which is good,

[4:55] because it's a lakefront property, it has some difficulties when it comes to setting up the foundation.

[4:59] So, we've looked at some photos and land bank thought it was sort of good enough to where the perspective buyer could come in and rehab that.

[5:10] We had an update on 26-scarish drive, for all those who may remember 26-scarish drive was a major undertaking for cleanup.

[5:18] up. We briefed the total cost for the abatement was $78,360.20. We sent a bill over to the bank

[5:27] and Carp Meafaram, but the bank paid our costs. So now we can use that for further land

[5:35] bank needs like demolations and revamping our summer properties. We also discussed how

[5:42] The City Council recently declared the International Wall and Mill Abandoned, and there are plans with codes to work on next steps to better secure the property now that we have the more legal, better legal remedies of securing that property since it's not been declared abandoned.

[5:59] Then lastly, as we always do, we discussed properties on our agenda for

[6:03] possible dangerous building declaration.

[6:06] We should like to see some of those in future agendas.

[6:09] We had members of the public come up, come and speak at these meetings here.

[6:15] So we will see some of those coming up in future agenda items.

[6:19] And again, as I always say, if anyone has any other buildings or

[6:22] any other properties they are concerned about, worried that they may be

[6:25] would be dangerous or neglected that want to bring to our attention.

[6:28] Please reach out to our Councillors or reach out to our Coast Department and we will discuss

[6:34] it and potentially you may see it here for hearing.

[6:37] And they could also contact Michelle LaBrie too.

[6:40] Absolutely.

[6:41] Assistant City Manager.

[6:43] She could also.

[6:44] All right.

[6:44] Thank you.

[6:45] Yeah.

[6:46] Next, Ann.

[6:48] Thank you, Madame Mayor.

[6:49] Public Safety Subcommittee met on Tuesday the 11th.

[6:51] Councillor Transmonte, myself, and then Councillor Hitchcock subsided for Councillor

[6:55] Martello couldn't make it. We heard from the Sanford Regional

[6:58] Communication Center. They had as somewhat typical, but even more so in the month of

[7:02] July, high call volume with over 11,000 calls entered into the CAD system, 13,600 business

[7:09] line calls and 26911 calls. So very busy for them in the month of July.

[7:15] They also did a little bit of fun. They attended multiple national nightouts in the region

[7:18] that they served, which is not just San Frick's original center, they did mention, I think,

[7:23] did we twist an arm to say ours was the best?

[7:25] I think it was implied that San Frick's was the best national night out.

[7:30] And really exciting news, the CAD, the computer-aided dispatch update is well on its way.

[7:36] It's a big, heavy lift for our communications center.

[7:41] They've had to enter invalidate businesses for every community that they serve, which is

[7:44] or 1200 business locations.

[7:46] They've been doing training with fire and police agencies

[7:48] across the region.

[7:49] They've configured and deployed GIS mapping servers

[7:52] and just really working hard so that they can properly

[7:55] deploy that updated CAD system in the near future.

[7:58] We also heard from our fire department

[8:00] who also had a busy month about 750 incidents

[8:04] were called in in the month between July and August

[8:06] since we last met.

[8:07] Of those, 550 were medical related.

[8:10] So our fire department continues to be very heavy

[8:12] on EMS related calls, 20 of the calls were fire-related.

[8:16] I note that highest medical calls continue to be trips and falls.

[8:20] I always think there's got to be something we could do to prevent that.

[8:23] And then we did also have a little bit of fun this summer

[8:26] where they did actually a collaboration with the meaners

[8:29] and actually created a, called a badge, I guess,

[8:32] a fire department badge that had the meaners burst the mousse,

[8:38] embedded in it and had some t-shirts made so that was kind of fun.

[8:41] And then also a little historical information in 2009.

[8:45] They started tracking badge numbers, and since 2009, we just add our number 100,

[8:51] our 100th team member to the fire department, so that's kind of exciting news.

[8:56] For the police department, DC Guyney did a great report out for us, and

[8:59] shared that National Night Out was a great success with a lot of attendance and

[9:03] many community partners, including main health, health,

[9:06] The Elk Center at Housing and Salvation Army, the Gun Safety Coalition and others of note the PD did take over the goat 104.3 for an hour apparently and played the music of their choice, which I heard some very concerning music favorites at that meeting, but I won't go into that we also met which is very exciting officer C Jane nicely who was headed off to the academy soon as our newest hire and then to wrap things up DPW reported out on their now regular public safety

[9:36] review, this part of the meeting isn't the best part because talking about accidents

[9:39] and things happening in the community, but we did have conversations around the reminder

[9:44] that a distracted drivers are a big cause of accidents here in the community and discussion

[9:49] around and I think we've seen some social media come out. The fact that we shouldn't even

[9:53] have our phones at a stoplight or stop sign. Technically, phones are literally no hands even when you're

[9:58] stopped and I have to correct that myself. Director Hill also explained that the slowing

[10:03] features in front of the Hannerford, which have been a little bit of conversation on social media

[10:07] are white because of their location closest to a white crosswalk sign. So the federal rules are

[10:13] that whatever slowing features are put up in a road are the same color as whatever line they're

[10:18] closest to, in this case white. The four-way stop, the grammar road seems to be going well,

[10:23] and then we also discussed as part of safety and DPW, the fact that our police department has really

[10:28] stepped up traffic enforcement and we're on track to have more than double the stops here in

[10:33] 26 from 2025. So great meeting and yeah, lots of information. Oh, thank you very much.

[10:39] More? No, it was really interesting. We had had a conversation with the fire chief on our way

[10:44] into an meeting. I think it was Becky and I, he talked about the falls and then he also talked about

[10:49] bicycles. The bicycles were a huge issue around town and I can see why as I almost hit some of them.

[10:56] But one of the things on the slip and fall would be interesting or the falling.

[10:59] I wonder if it would be interesting if we could work, talk to the people that are thriving

[11:02] in place and see if there's any way to do a campaign on something like, here's your

[11:07] walker, your new best friend or something, because a lot of people would use a walker, which

[11:13] they're embarrassed to use, a lot of this might not happen.

[11:16] So anyway, I'm on my soap box about walker usage.

[11:21] Well, and thank you.

[11:22] I talked about my attendance about it all the time.

[11:23] I wish my mother was hearing this because she refuses to use hers.

[11:27] I'm constantly staring at it.

[11:29] I tend to be walking on the hallway, I'll say, why would you walk her?

[11:31] And they're just going to give you this look and it's like a guilty teenager.

[11:35] It's weird to call it.

[11:37] I'm like you should, it's so much safer.

[11:39] I hate it when they fall because they weren't doing that.

[11:42] Anyway, so most of the stuff from the properties on our agenda, a lot of it from the airport,

[11:47] as well as draft and hopefully approval of the drainage capital improvement plan study,

[11:52] So that that'll be on our agenda.

[11:54] A couple of other things we discussed were the incantement trash and

[11:57] disposal over multiple sites including the two Catholic cemeteries and

[12:01] how to dispose of this and one of the sites for the city is extremely difficult to access.

[12:05] It's on kind of a peninsula behind the armory off of Goen, so kind of converging.

[12:13] One of the biggest parts of the discussion was the fact that it's very difficult to

[12:17] separate the stuff that is considered hazardous from the stuff that is easy to get rid of at a regular

[12:25] transportation or a facility. So just started to have conversations about how are we going to

[12:34] kind of give advice to people who have their property full of trash and what kind of companies will

[12:42] We'll take this mixed trash so that we can give them some advice and how to maybe reduce dumpsters together to fill a full dumpster.

[12:51] It was a general discussion of how difficult it is to get rid of encampment trash because of the needles and the human waste.

[12:58] Then we discussed the Springvale Park basketball and tennis court because we had a person here talking about the tennis courts last time we were here.

[13:04] It led to a discussion about some of the improvements coming to the Springvale Park.

[13:09] And that tennis court might not be the highest and best use for that location and it might have some more pickle ball courts along with the basketball because those work well in conjunction, it's actually really hard to put up the tennis court net, but it's very easy to put up the pickle ball net so you can use the two together and it also led to a discussion about the fact that there are three tennis courts at the high school that people can still use and that we are not ignoring the tennis court facility next

[13:38] to the Pride Elementary, but if we redo it, it might be, again, some pickleball courts

[13:45] combined with maybe a tennis ball court. So those are our discussions other than what

[13:50] is on our agenda to see. Thank you. All right, moving right ahead. Steve,

[13:56] city management report. Thank you. I'm going to try to go through

[14:00] this as quickly as possible. I'm just going to summarize because I'm anxious to hear about

[14:04] this trophy thing that's sitting out here.

[14:06] The massive thing in front of us.

[14:07] Let me see, somebody's got a one hand that thing, right?

[14:11] All right, five station headquarters, project update on that.

[14:15] As you can see, the equivalents moved back on site.

[14:17] They started working there actively on this past Monday.

[14:21] So they're back to mobilization.

[14:24] We are still, we are going to deal with on Wednesday,

[14:28] the General Contract of Benchmark submitted a change order,

[14:31] two change orders, COR 16 and 17.

[14:33] Both of those who are associated with the environmental requirements and site conditions related to the work there.

[14:40] The request were reviewed by the city's project team, including WBRC and the city's architect and

[14:45] input from TRC as a city's environmental consultant.

[14:48] And WBRC has issued statements denying both of those work, those change orders.

[14:54] So we're going to continue to work through those, but that's not going to forest all any of the construction project.

[14:58] they're moved to the project.

[15:00] Moving ahead. So, again, they mobilized the Earth Equipment to start the site preparation there. We will get a further update on the scheduling. It's still anticipated to be 15 months from commencement of full construction. The city issued their construction permit last, the notice to proceed last Thursday. So they've had that then. So that starts our clock ticking.

[15:24] All right, road construction. I put an update in here. It's almost a week old at this point. The information, some of it is a little stale.

[15:31] Sherman Street, concrete curbing, and they're going to complete the construction of the sidewalk

[15:36] bases underway. High street, they continue to do the box cutting on that. I don't know

[15:42] how many times I've tried to come to work and it roads closed. Okay, you would think after a

[15:46] couple of weeks, it might sink in, but it's the force of habit. I just drive that way, my fault.

[15:54] So they continue to work on that through the 21st. So they're supposed to have that

[15:59] somewhat closed up at the end of this week.

[16:02] Grandma Road, the water district is actually working on the east of the end closest to

[16:07] root four.

[16:08] They're out there working.

[16:09] They're replacing the water main out there, so that's why that road has been closed.

[16:13] And then our contractor, the vet will go back in, the bike will go back in and start

[16:18] working on the east of the end later this season and complete that.

[16:24] that.

[16:24] And once you complete that, easterly in, they'll do the final, finished pavement all the

[16:31] way through from 111 all the way through the room for.

[16:35] And you'll see activity around, number one, pond dam.

[16:38] They're actually going to construct a coffer dam in there.

[16:41] There's a massive number of water pipes that come from number one pond dam that flow underneath

[16:47] high street and more distributed into the mills.

[16:52] In earlier years, we struck one of those pipes on a Friday afternoon, excavating in the street.

[16:57] It was not a fun adventure.

[16:59] I can tell you that two trucks of concrete being poured into a hole that we were able to plug it.

[17:05] So this is an effort to assure that all of those pipes are discontinued before further work takes place on a high street and elsewhere in the downtown.

[17:16] Also on the roads, on our Kinex Samford Kinex main page, ME page, there is a new area

[17:27] in there called get to know your local government and our communications coordinator, Megan

[17:32] Bover, has been working diligently on there doing a graphic presentation as well as a

[17:38] little representation of what the city government provides for services, how it's funded, where

[17:44] the funding comes from and how it's distributed. And in there, there's a community input section.

[17:49] And one of the first questions is being pulled out of there. Somebody asked, how do we determine

[17:54] the priority around the roads? So given that, she's been working on the Public Works Director,

[18:01] and she's coming up with a graphic presentation as well as talking about

[18:05] it's not just the visual appearance of the road. We do a pavement condition index.

[18:10] We do a return on the investment calculation on that.

[18:17] We look at the underground utilities, the drainage, the traffic, the road classification,

[18:21] the availability of funding that might be used for leverage funding in there,

[18:25] main department of transportation priorities, and all of that comes into the mix as far as making that determination.

[18:31] So we're going to try to get that down to understandable format and put that out for the public to have.

[18:40] Comprehensive plan, you're going to be seeing more on that here later tonight.

[18:43] Very done is here.

[18:44] I just wanted to bring up in my report that there's a vote out there for people.

[18:49] I would encourage you to go to the Connects main page or we have it there, as well as in this document.

[18:55] There's clickable links to go there.

[18:58] Very done, put out the Engage, very done, my social pinpoint.com.

[19:03] Stanford slash business vision statement voting.

[19:06] The Comprehensive Planning Committee has developed two vision statements to be utilized in the comprehensive plan and it really is an overview and a foundational element in there that two very differently formatted vision statements and they're asking for community input for people to review those statements and vote on vision statement one or two.

[19:31] Ministral elections to bring up nomination papers.

[19:34] Finally, deadline is August 31st, 530, close with business that's a week from Monday.

[19:42] Currently, there are positions open for the mayor, one position, city council, two positions,

[19:48] school committee, two positions, Sanford Water District, trustee one position, and

[19:53] Sanford Sewage District, trustee two positions.

[19:57] for Mayor City Council and school committee you need 50 signatures and for the two districts

[20:03] you need 25 signatures and again those are coming near end date which is August 31st.

[20:10] If you have questions you can contact the municipal clerk's office at 207-324-9125.

[20:18] General assistance, we had a very good month in July we started a new fiscal year.

[20:23] I can remember when the city budgeted $150,000 per year for total general assistance expenditure and we have hit up to 1.2 million during COVID and the last couple of years has been around $950,000.

[20:41] So for July, we had total expenditures of $49,558, which is 92% of that was on housing-related expenditures.

[20:55] In the permanent housing, 19,605 was for non-new Maynors, and then we had new Maynors.

[21:06] So non-new Maynors are residents, new Maynors as state categorized are those asylum seekers

[21:12] and others have not obtained a citizenship, 7,373, so that's an absolute reversal.

[21:17] It had been the other way around for quite a period of time.

[21:22] And Silver Living House was down to 5,831.

[21:26] Our GA office changed how they pay for that.

[21:28] They used to pay for the full month.

[21:30] They no longer do that, they paid by the week.

[21:32] Because we had many applicants that we found to our research.

[21:35] They'd get a month worth of rental that they were entitled to, pay that, and

[21:42] be out in a day, and the resources were gone.

[21:45] We now do change that to the week and it's made a significant difference.

[21:50] Temporary housing that would be hotels and session for that was a 12,762 or 8% overall for the year.

[21:58] All right, home for good.

[22:00] I wanted to bring that up.

[22:02] The City Council has just started their review on the pending home for good project here in Sanford.

[22:08] That is supportive housing for the chronically unhoused, chronically unhoused by state definition.

[22:14] to somebody that's been outside for at least two years.

[22:19] We also know from my data sets that those that are chronically in-house.

[22:23] In the last data sets we looked at, 100% of them had either severe mental health issues or

[22:29] substance use disorder or a combination of the two.

[22:32] So this would be a 30 unit project that would have 24, 7, 365 day professional services oversight there.

[22:43] for people would come in that had been chronically unhoused, they would come in, they would have a housing voucher, they'd have a contract, they'd pay 30% of their income towards their stay there, and they would be immediately start, start, work would start with them as far as addressing the issues that they have that have made them chronically unhoused.

[23:06] I won't get into all the relationship, but I can tell you the city has done extensive work in all areas.

[23:12] There's two, the chronic land housed, but the chronic land housed have been the most difficult to address, and this is the next step in that process.

[23:23] And this will be a direct entry portal to the new medically assisted treatment facility that the York County has built over by the jail to replace layman's way.

[23:36] I really want to commend the county for taking their COVID era funding and putting it towards A,

[23:45] the training center, that's there for the police and fire, which is a tremendous resource for our county.

[23:51] That is absolutely the shining star anywhere in the state of Maine.

[23:55] And I also want to commend them for the work that they have done for the treatment facility that will open up this September.

[24:02] are really kudos to our county commissioners for that work, and that's all I have.

[24:09] Thank you, Steve.

[24:11] I just want to take a moment to commend Diane Small for all she's done for our unhoused

[24:17] population, starting with, I believe it was almost three years ago, we started with the

[24:23] 19 strategies.

[24:25] I know Ann was a part of that.

[24:26] I was a part of that, and Steve was a part of that.

[24:29] And we met every other week and put stuff into play.

[24:33] So Diane, you're a great leader within that.

[24:36] And the next step that we're taking with the new house that's going to be built,

[24:41] it's just exciting because now there's people who cannot get out from under drugs.

[24:47] And this facility will help that, which was like the last step that we need to do.

[24:51] And we're just hoping that this will be the help that are the last of our unhoused populations.

[24:57] So, thank you, Diane, for your help with all of that and your leadership.

[25:02] Moving right along under presentations now, we have a presentation for the new mainers,

[25:10] for the championship win, and I'm going to call on Jacob Willett, but Jacob, you have

[25:16] no idea that everybody who presents, I really like to embarrass their families.

[25:21] And I'm so glad you brought your mom and dad, especially your father, because I've had

[25:26] I've had to put up with your father for years, years, Donna, you're the same way you've

[25:33] had to put up with him. And I want you to know that when you first came to the junior

[25:39] high, I was the Prince. My first year as being a junior high principal there, yep. Your

[25:45] father came up to me and told me I better clean up this building because he didn't want

[25:50] your, his two sons were coming there and he wanted them to be safe. So just letting

[25:56] You know he was right out ahead of you making sure clearing that path. So Jacob will let please come down. David that I do a good job of

[26:09] Okay, go ahead. No, thank you for that. I appreciate it

[26:15] Yes, may I break

[26:17] Sanford members of the Sanford City Council and city manager, but

[26:20] Yes, I am Jacob lead. I'm the chairman of the board for the Sanford Mainers and on behalf of our organization

[26:26] I want to thank you for inviting us here tonight for recognizing our team following what was really truly a historic year.

[26:34] The 2026 season is one that we'll definitely remember for quite some time.

[26:40] Most notably our players and our coaching staff captured the new and collegiate baseball league championship.

[26:46] Marking the third championship in franchise history are first title in 18 years.

[26:52] So even more special than perhaps most fittingly, the championship, the first-ever championship

[26:57] won right here at a home field at Goodall Park, and we even brought our newest friend,

[27:04] the Faith Hints and Senior Cup with us here tonight.

[27:09] I also want to mention, you know, as a championship year, as that cliche goes, you know, across

[27:13] the entire board, it was that title at the end, that really put that cherry on top.

[27:19] It was also 25 years of Maynors baseball this year here in Sanford, which gave us the opportunity to recognize players, coaches, volunteers, sponsors, host families, and fans who have helped make this organization what it is today.

[27:35] We're also honored to host the NECBL All-Star Game at Got All Park this year, welcoming more than 1,000 fans from across New England showcasing Sanford on one of the league's biggest stages.

[27:46] the event brought together top collegiate players from all 13 and ECBL franchises representing schools from across the country and even attracted nearly 30 major league baseball scouts to our city here in Sanford.

[28:00] I also want to recognize our head coach who's right here on the front row Nick Lofts whose leadership and dedication was instrumental in this championship season.

[28:09] Nick guided the mainers to a first place finish in the North Division and served as manager

[28:15] of that North Division All-Star team, which was here in Sanford.

[28:18] I'd also like to acknowledge our volunteer Board of Directors, many of whom are here tonight,

[28:24] including one right on the panel here in Councilor Hitchcock, along with the countless volunteers

[28:31] who make our success possible.

[28:33] The mainers operate largely through volunteer efforts and could not do what we do without

[28:38] their commitment and passion. And although she could not be here with us this evening, if this

[28:44] evening I would be remiss if I did not thank Andrea Knight as well, our office and sales manager,

[28:49] Andrea works tirelessly behind the scenes every day to keep the organization running smoothly

[28:53] and ensure a first-class experience for our fans, our sponsors, our players, and any visitor to

[28:58] Goodall Park during our games. The seven members also hold a unique distinction as the only

[29:04] any CBL franchise representing the state of Maine and we're fortunate that

[29:08] representation has called Sanford and Goodall Park our home for the past 25

[29:13] seasons. That would not be possible without the support of the city of Sanford

[29:18] and folks like you. Grateful not only for the partnership and encouragement you

[29:24] have provided for over the years but also for the trust you have placed in our

[29:28] nonprofit organization to be a meaningful part of this community and we

[29:32] We especially appreciate the city's continued willingness to work collaboratively with us

[29:36] to ensure good old park remains our home for years to come.

[29:41] And finally, I would like to offer a special thank you to the city of Sanford Parks and

[29:45] Recreation Department, including director of Rae Lloyd with assistance from Barbara Buckland

[29:50] and on the ground with Dustin Morley, Dave Eldridge, Tony Jack, Ryan Wright out, Paul Vash on

[29:57] in the entire parts of REC team.

[30:00] Their dedication to maintaining rural park does not go unnoticed. And in fact, consistently, our players, coaches, visiting teams, league officials, and fans from away, describe rural park is one of the finest ball parks in all of summer collegiate baseball. So as we celebrate this championship season, we recognize that success on the field is only possible because of the people in the partnerships that support us off of it. And so this championship, fittingly in 25 years in celebrating that anniversary

[30:29] belongs not to just our players and coaches, but to this entire Sanford community.

[30:34] And as many of you probably saw, we were wearing jerseys on that night representing that very home.

[30:40] So thank you again for this recognition and for your continued support.

[30:44] And just helping ensure that Sanford remains one of the premier destinations for summer-based

[30:49] fall in our region.

[30:52] Welcome back.

[31:14] Just our congratulations. I enjoyed watching. I think it was unique. Did you change?

[31:20] You're looking awfully different, but I can remember the guys running to get the Gatorade,

[31:24] sticky, sticky Gatorade is what you got doused with, and he just opened his arm and just

[31:29] like bring it on because he was so excited.

[31:31] He didn't care what they did to him at that point, so it was really, it was a nice night.

[31:35] You guys did a great job, you're a great organization.

[31:38] And is this thing super heavy?

[31:41] Yes.

[31:43] Give it, so it looks, even the wall players were wrapping it in their arms as they're

[31:47] It looked hard to carry.

[31:50] Well, thank you for coming and sharing this with us.

[31:53] We really appreciate it.

[31:54] And thank you for being here in Sanford, too.

[31:56] What a great opportunity our children have to see,

[32:00] you know, baseball alive like that.

[32:03] I mean, it's just fantastic.

[32:04] You must sit here thinking about all the people

[32:06] who started this who are no longer with us

[32:08] because they're quite a few who are no longer with us.

[32:11] I was thinking about that after the win

[32:12] and during this past week,

[32:14] there's quite a few people who are no longer with us

[32:16] who would be very proud of you today.

[32:18] Yeah, super.

[32:20] All right, we can move right along.

[32:22] Thank you.

[32:22] Any other comments?

[32:25] Nate, you're OK.

[32:26] No, I'm great.

[32:28] Thank you all for coming down.

[32:30] I'll say my world's collided a little bit today.

[32:33] Bring them here.

[32:35] No, I mean, I think this is an organization

[32:37] that's going to stick around for years to come.

[32:39] I wasn't going to say that.

[32:41] I don't know what it is, but we did get our head coach here

[32:43] to move to Sanford.

[32:44] So yeah, so it's a great community.

[32:50] Absolutely. I mean, people come here.

[32:51] They see it and they move here.

[32:53] So perfect and did you have a comment?

[32:56] I just wondered about a mayor where this amazing trophy lives during your

[33:00] office season is a place where community members can go touch it.

[33:03] See it?

[33:04] That in coastal offices, guest room.

[33:08] So just give him a call if any kids need pictures with it.

[33:11] But at some point, it will probably be displeased.

[33:17] Excellent.

[33:18] Thank you.

[33:19] I think it's definitely something you can bring to the school.

[33:21] And I just wanted to thank you all for representing our city.

[33:25] You are outstanding.

[33:27] We have a great name and thank you very much.

[33:30] All right.

[33:31] Great.

[33:31] Well, thank you.

[33:33] Typically, when we have presentations,

[33:35] I do say it's OK for you guys to leave

[33:38] before we continue.

[33:40] Kyle's going, yes.

[33:46] So we'll just take a couple of minutes, and if you guys want to leave, you can.

[33:50] We are very entertaining, but you are more than welcome to leave.

[33:53] We are not entertaining, run, run like the wind.

[33:57] You can take your trophy, and if you want to stay, you can, or you can take your trophy in.

[34:03] I don't think you want to leave that here.

[34:06] We'll just give you a few minutes before we move on.

[34:08] Thank you and congratulations you guys, I'm sure you're still exhausted from the season.

[34:16] I

[34:19] need a dog to be a bad thing.

[34:20] I know it's huge.

[34:21] Bye.

[34:30] Okay, let's move right along.

[34:32] The comprehensive plan inventory and analysis presentation by Barry Dunn.

[34:42] I mean, you don't look like Barry Dunn.

[34:44] I'm not very done.

[34:45] I just want to introduce Ali Toby with Barry Dunn.

[34:48] She has been working with us for the last six or seven months or so

[34:53] Doing an excellent job represented in Sanford and getting this comprehensive plan update

[34:57] Continuing to move forward with that. I'm going to turn it over to you. Thank you

[35:02] Thank you Jamie and good evening everybody. It's lovely to be here with all of you and excited to give an update on the Comprehensive Planning Project

[35:12] The steering committee for this project has done a lot of work over the last couple of years and

[35:17] have joined in very done and our partners at VHB have joined in that process and are

[35:24] excited to be in some really exciting phases of this project, where we're starting to move

[35:29] into land use and policy development, but wanted to give you an update on the work that's

[35:35] been done to date, as well as some upcoming activities as City Manager Buck alluded to vision

[35:40] and statement voting, that will set the stage for the rest of the planned development.

[35:48] But there we go, it's

[35:56] there, I'm mouse.

[36:04] Thank you, you can tell it's my first time presenting here,

[36:12] and we're up at Sveta.

[36:18] Which icon?

[36:20] I got it.

[36:21] No, but I know, I'm looking and going, I would.

[36:24] Thank you so much.

[36:27] All right.

[36:28] So, tonight, plan to provide an overview outlining what the comprehensive plan is and components

[36:36] of that comprehensive plan in line with the State's Growth Management Act given update

[36:41] in an overview on the community engagement that's been done to date, outline what a vision

[36:45] statement is and given overview of the options that the steering committee selected to go to

[36:50] the community and then talk a little bit about land use, future land use planning and really

[36:56] the core components of the comprehensive plan before talking through next steps and schedule

[37:02] for the rest of the project.

[37:04] A comprehensive plan at its core is a long-range land use and policy document that helps guide

[37:11] future decision-making, ordinance updates and decision-making by the city.

[37:16] It creates a framework for land use planning and zoning, provides policy direction,

[37:26] and

[37:26] the next decade. A comprehensive plan is not an update to the zoning ordinance. It sets the

[37:32] basis for that work. Though some of these components may look and read a little bit like a zoning map,

[37:37] it is really the framework that sets the direction for future activities down the road.

[37:44] As part of a comprehensive plan, it is overseen by the State's Growth Management Act and

[37:49] there's several required components to a comprehensive plan. The first of which is a vision statement,

[37:54] So, a statement that reflects the desired future that a community sees for itself over the next 10, 15, 20 years.

[38:02] Public participation and engagement from the community includes an inventory and analysis of existing conditions.

[38:08] So, that covers a lot of different topics from things like agriculture and forestry and

[38:12] water and natural resources through city services, financing, land use, housing, economy, really a large spectrum of different topics included in this plan.

[38:22] and the inventory and analysis provides kind of a snapshot in time of what data policies

[38:27] and frameworks exist around each of those topic areas.

[38:31] That document is going to this year in committee for their monthly meeting in August this month

[38:36] and that will be made publicly available as well for board's committees council as well as

[38:41] the public to view as with that.

[38:45] And then the remaining pieces of the Comprehensive Plan under the Growth Management Act are really

[38:50] that framework for growth and policy decision making over the next decade.

[38:55] So that includes a future land use map and plan, which I'll talk a little bit about later in the presentation.

[39:00] Policies and actions, so in line with that vision statement, what kind of guides decision making and

[39:06] how do city actions work towards implementing that vision statement.

[39:10] And then regional coordination and implementation strategy, the city is not in a vacuum on its own.

[39:15] There are county regional local organizations, partners, and other municipalities that the city relies on for growth and coordination, especially in long-term planning.

[39:28] To date, there's been quite a few engagement activities conducted by the Stern Committee, as well as with our support, the first in-person activity being a community heart and soul event in May of 2025.

[39:42] Around that time there was also a community survey release that was open through mid 2025 through January of this calendar year had about 826 responses which for

[39:54] Surveys of this size in community. It's a high response rate. And then online as City Manager Buck mentioned, there's the Sanford Connects webpage which has been hosting a

[40:06] The question of the month series related to comprehensive plan topics.

[40:11] And then ongoing steering committees and the group tabled at the July 3rd block party,

[40:18] talking with community members, and also had a plan at your flag activity.

[40:22] So kind of a foam ward with Sanford's map on it, and having community members place different development

[40:26] types and amenities where they thought those would be most appropriate in Sanford's future.

[40:32] As far as upcoming engagement, we're presenting at the Trafton Center tomorrow, and that's

[40:37] open to the community really focused on getting perspectives from seniors in Sanford and

[40:43] who visit Sanford often.

[40:45] On September 30th at 6 p.m. at Memorial Gym, there will be a community open house focused

[40:51] on land use planning and development moving forward, so that will be an interactive open

[40:56] house open to the community where folks can come and play around with some different maps

[41:01] and scenarios about what they'd like to see in Sanford's future, and then they'll be ongoing

[41:05] activities on the Sanford Connects web page, and then later this calendar year and early

[41:11] 2027 validation of policies and future land use map with community boards, committees, and then

[41:19] public hearings and review of the comprehensive plan document in early 2027.

[41:25] To date have heard a lot of different community themes that have really informed the creation

[41:30] of the vision statement and preliminary land use plans, including the need to address

[41:35] affordability and cost pressure, a really strong desire to revitalize and invest in downtown

[41:40] Sanford and Springvale and the mills, expanding local business options, retail, dining, as

[41:47] addressing community safety concerns, maintaining and improving public infrastructure, enhancing

[41:53] walkability, connectivity and transportation, continuing to invest in parks, trails and open

[41:58] in space and promoting economic development and job opportunities, as well as strengthening community connection.

[42:05] And through all of that, balancing Stanford's small town feel and rural areas while planning for growth and investment in strategic areas.

[42:17] And that information and community engagement really fed into the development of a vision statement,

[42:22] which is a statement that sets the overall direction and tone for the goals, policies,

[42:28] actions of this plan tells a story about the ideal future, what's important to the community

[42:34] and what priorities are, illustrates that sense of identity and is aspirational in nature.

[42:40] As you read through those vision statements, they're both online as well as downstairs.

[42:45] Really aspirational in nature and motivates the community towards that desired future outcome

[42:51] and subsequent to that in later stages, there will be more specific actions and detailed items

[42:56] to work towards implementing that vision statement.

[42:59] I'll give just a very high level overview of those two options.

[43:03] Option one includes a vision statement at the top as well as eight community goals focused

[43:10] on identity and connection, a vibrant local economy, revitalization of downtowns, natural resources

[43:17] and recreation, infrastructure and quality services, housing and quality of life, governance

[43:23] implementation, inclusion, health, and well-being.

[43:28] Option two is a little bit more succinct and has a similar structure at first with

[43:34] an overarching vision statement, and then focuses on six community values.

[43:39] So connection, livable places, resilience, trust, stewardship, and local opportunity, and

[43:46] and instead of those goals and option one,

[43:51] outlines desired future outcome statements.

[43:54] So those are the two options that the Steering Committee

[43:57] has chosen to move forward for community voting.

[44:01] And that is online through August, early September.

[44:05] And that voting is available online.

[44:06] And if you're in person at City Hall,

[44:08] there's also options to place dots and vote in person as well.

[44:12] And with that, the winning vision statement

[44:15] and based on community vote will be the statement

[44:17] that's included and structured for the final plan.

[44:22] Last bit of dense content here is future land use, FLU.

[44:28] Future land use really sets the framework

[44:30] for where and how different types of development in Sanford

[44:34] should occur, how the city should grow,

[44:36] and where that investment should happen.

[44:38] It's really a kind of vision for long-term frameworks

[44:42] for land use decision making.

[44:44] So within those maps, it sets the narrative structure visual for what the community wants

[44:50] to see an area become or what it wants to see an area remain as.

[44:54] And that's reflected in a couple of different ways through growth areas, which are a required

[44:59] component through

[45:00] Through the Growth Management Act, the city has to outline growth areas, which are the areas that should see the most amount of growth, the most amount of investment, infrastructure investment, capital investment, over the next decade. Transition areas that provide moderate growth opportunities, so not to the same scale as those growth areas, but can provide some transition between the city's various rural areas, rural, non-growth areas, places that should remain in their rural form, and then conservation areas are areas that should be concerned.

[45:29] and protected from the impacts of development.

[45:33] So within those three growth transition and rural areas

[45:38] have a subset of land use categories,

[45:40] which are more detailed,

[45:42] kind of broad descriptive visions

[45:44] for where different types of development should happen

[45:48] in Sanford.

[45:49] And those land use categories include

[45:51] descriptive and visual mixes of the types of homes

[45:54] that should be in a place,

[45:55] whether there's businesses or shops,

[45:57] How dense or spread out buildings are, how close to the street, how do they interact with each other?

[46:03] What transportation options might exist, are these compact, walkable spaces, or are these more rural in nature?

[46:10] And then whether there's parks, open spaces, or other community facilities included.

[46:16] This is the city's current land use map from its 2002-2005 updated plan that pink you'll see the growth area.

[46:23] and that greenish yellow color is the rural area and there's some different land use categories outlined by the numbers representing different types of development throughout Sanford and where there should go and through this process will be updating this area or this growth map with

[46:42] We're finally in use categories in growth area boundaries in line with student committee

[46:46] direction, community feedback, and opportunity as well, just to provide another example

[46:52] of what this could look like.

[46:53] This is an example from the city of Ellsworth that includes a variety of different types of

[46:59] land use categories, outlining industrial, commercial, you know, neighborhood and urban

[47:03] growth areas, as well as rural and rural conservation areas.

[47:07] And accompanying each of those land use categories, there would be narrative descriptions with those and in the city's case we'll be working to develop some visuals and renderings for what those different areas and what the intent of those areas are with the goal that this is able to guide future city decision making, implementing zoning ordinance updates, development review changes and any other related policy direction.

[47:32] So as far as next steps go, again, presenting at the Trafton Center tomorrow, that's open

[47:36] to community focused on seniors in Sanford.

[47:41] And then the committee's next steering committee meeting is August 26th, that's next week.

[47:48] And then on September 30th, that community open house as well.

[47:53] As far as upcoming timeline goes, focus on future land use map development through August

[47:59] and November with this year in committee meeting, and concurrent to that, looking at policies and actions to implement the vision and future land use map, and then working towards final plan development in the later part of this year, early 2027, before that is sent to the Planning Board and City Council for public hearings review processes and additional refinement with

[48:25] that.

[48:25] Any questions, comments?

[48:28] Tell us the time of the Wednesday's meeting, August 19th at the Drafton Center.

[48:34] It is at 10.30 to 10.30.

[48:37] So if anybody wants to go, some of our seniors, they will know when to go.

[48:41] Thank you.

[48:42] Any questions and comments?

[48:46] Nope.

[48:47] Thank you very much.

[48:48] Really appreciate it.

[48:49] Absolutely.

[48:50] Thank you very much.

[48:50] You're safe.

[48:51] You can go.

[48:52] All our meetings are pretty much televised, right?

[48:55] If you want to catch up and see what we're talking about, you can watch some of the meetings, so that's a good way to do it.

[49:02] Absolutely, and there'll be additional opportunities to get involved in the process throughout the project, and there'll be regular updates to the Planning Board and City Council as well.

[49:09] Steve?

[49:10] I just like to say, I just want to strongly encourage the public to participate as much as possible in this process, because even though there's so many elements of our current,

[49:22] The current comprehensive plan is very, our plan is very age.

[49:25] There's still some very solid foundation elements in there, but in my 30 years of being

[49:31] around in this business, I don't think I've ever seen a time that I've seen more

[49:35] pressure on the future land use changes than I do now for housing and industrial placement.

[49:42] Those two elements are really driving the conversation far more so

[49:46] in densities and such that I never thought I would ever see or experience.

[49:51] So I just want to encourage the public to provide their input so we can get this as right as possible for our community.

[49:58] Absolutely and the plan is I said 10, 20 years.

[50:01] There's not going to be immediate overnight changes.

[50:03] The vision is not going to be implemented overnight, but this is what sets the framework for

[50:07] the city to work towards that over the next several several years.

[50:10] So thank you all for your time.

[50:12] Thank you.

[50:13] Thank you.

[50:14] I just want to say one thing, you know, you watched the meters here for 25 years of an organization.

[50:18] just come at the costly building and changing and growing and allowing themselves to adapt for the future there and now.

[50:25] And it's different than what it started out, I think the people who started it would be so proud of it today.

[50:30] It's important to participate in things that are going to last as long, and the comprehensive plan is one of those.

[50:36] And so I'm hoping that not only are older folks participating because they know the community but younger folks are participating, because they're the ones who are going to be enjoying the results of the work.

[50:45] And so it would be nice, it's going to come fast and furious, and so be participating in being involved in this process is really critical.

[50:52] Thank you.

[50:53] Okay, moving right along.

[50:55] A quarterly presentation from the director of the Sanford Economic Growth Council, which is Keith McBride.

[51:03] And the small business advocate, which is Mary Hastings, which I hear there's a rumor that you are a puppet master of some kind.

[51:13] Okay, moving right along to Keith.

[51:20] I'm going to take a minute just to open these up.

[51:24] Thank you very much.

[51:24] My name is Keith McBride, Director of your Growth Council.

[51:27] I'd like to apologize for the informality of wearing a baseball hat to a meeting like

[51:33] this, but it only seems appropriate tonight.

[51:35] It does.

[51:36] So, I couldn't help myself, and I'll get Mary's up here as well.

[51:42] So thank you very much.

[51:45] So we're going to kind of be splitting this into two tonight.

[51:49] I think I'll first up to bat to continue with the theme for the evening.

[51:55] So taking a look really quickly at some of the macroeconomic trends that we've seen.

[51:59] Labor market has been a little bit weird and I think the economists are saying that there's

[52:05] a decline in overall payroll employment nationwide, which also coincide with a decline in overall

[52:12] unemployment, which indicated a reduction in a number of people participating in the labor market.

[52:19] By over 250,000 people in that course of that one month, which is significant.

[52:24] I didn't find any real good solid explanation for why that happened so dramatically,

[52:31] nothing that I'd feel confident to say. This is the reason why we had such a reduction in our

[52:35] overall nationwide labor force in that one particular month, but it is at its lowest rate since the

[52:41] COVID pandemic. So that is significant. There are just less people in the country participating

[52:47] in the workforce. At the same time, we had a growing economy but decelerated growth in the

[52:54] second quarter of 2026, driven that growth as it was, even though decelerated, driven by consumer

[53:00] spending, which is a good thing that people are confident in the economy, they're spending money,

[53:05] but that also a lot of economists are warning about the reduction in overall savings and what might

[53:11] happen in further inflation, with further economic downturn, what that might do to a lot

[53:18] of families. And also, by business spending, was another driver of economic GDP growth,

[53:24] but economists pointed out that that's almost exclusively limited to investments in AI.

[53:30] In fact, one had pointed out that without AI, the economy really would have seen almost no

[53:34] growth whatsoever throughout the first half of 2026. So, there's a lot of money being

[53:39] invested in that and the rest of the economy seems somewhat stagnant, which is alarming.

[53:44] So all those are kind of not great indicators, but at the same time, we have low unemployment

[53:50] and we still have a growing economy.

[53:52] So those things do seem to be somewhat encouraging.

[53:56] To more local matters, we're going to focus on our work plan, and Mary's I think is going

[54:01] to talk about some project specific things.

[54:03] We've had a lot of activity going on this quarter in all of our core competencies on the

[54:09] marketing side.

[54:09] We're going to be launching an external marketing campaign business attraction oriented

[54:15] to look at industrial businesses, specifically targeting strong industries that are regional

[54:21] or national that are growing and for whom would be a good fit for industrial properties that

[54:27] we have available and that are being marketed in our industrial zones.

[54:32] That was a recommendation pointed out by the Market Study and Economic Development Action Plan that was commissioned as kind of a kickoff for the comprehensive plan process, some going back to, I think, 2024, I think that plan is completed in early 2025.

[54:47] So we're trying to implement that recommendation by doing some of that business attraction marketing work more on that soon, I hope, but we just don't have all the materials completed quite yet.

[54:57] Under Taxing from Rich Financing, we received approvals from DECD for some of the work that we've done in the past couple of months, amendments to the downtown approval of the South Sanford Industrial, approval of the East Side District, which includes a credit enhancement agreement to support the redevelopment of the Stanton Mill Project.

[55:13] A lot of activity on that end. Our advocacy work, I know Mary's going to touch on that, but I do want to point out, given that we just had that presentation from Allie, we are also participating in the comp plan.

[55:24] I echo the city manager's comments that the public should get involved and get their voices heard

[55:29] It obviously is something important to us too and something we take a lot of guidance from in our work on what kinds of things

[55:35] The community wants to see what kind of a community want to be in the future and in what ways we should be growing

[55:41] From a business development standpoint

[55:44] So we're involved in that

[55:46] Visitation outreach. We've had some great meetings lately with some local businesses including kind of a kind of on savings bank

[55:52] We participated in the ribbon cutting in the grand opening of York County Pediatric Dentistry

[55:57] on Eagle Drive.

[55:58] They have an amazing facility.

[56:00] If you have an opportunity to check it out, the dentist who owns that is absolutely obsessed

[56:05] with dinosaurs and there's a dinosaur's theme throughout the interior of that which is amazing

[56:09] and it even features real fossils from his own collection.

[56:15] Very cool stuff if you're into that and a really good practice.

[56:19] And lastly, on the brownfield side, the international one, the boiler house project, we know that's going to be done for removal.

[56:27] There was a structural inspection that building comprises a portion of the retaining wall that's holding up pioneer avenues.

[56:34] So we want to be very sensitive in the removal of that building that we don't accidentally destabilize pioneer avenue.

[56:40] There's being geotechnical engineering work done there and structural inspections that have all been completed.

[56:45] They're expecting bid documents for the work to be completed this fall and bid it out so that we can start with the removal of that building in the spring when the construction season opens again.

[56:57] And our assessment grant has been helping out with the fire station project in Springville and with the sent and redevelopment and with some other projects as well.

[57:05] So it's it's been a really active quarter we've been busy in all three of these

[57:10] or excuse me all five of these segments and usually this is the portion where I

[57:14] turn over and talk about some local projects but instead I'm going to invite

[57:17] Mary to come up and kind of take over that portion of it for me. Let me see if I

[57:24] can do this. There you go. Thank you Mary. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks for having me again so soon.

[57:32] I just wanted to kind of do an overview of what I do, and I don't get up here too often,

[57:38] but I have just a few slides and then some fun slides at the end.

[57:43] But the main portion of what I do, of course, is business advocacy, significant part.

[57:50] And that's from taking an opportunity or an idea from someone and moving it from concept

[57:55] to completion.

[57:56] Hopefully, sometimes it doesn't happen all that way, but I try to do that.

[58:01] I have many opportunities to meet with business owners all over Sanford.

[58:05] And now that I've been in this capacity for four years, many businesses are small and

[58:10] large, called on the growth council and they don't know where to start or where to go next.

[58:15] Which tells me that we're doing well, but many businesses, many folks tell me that they're referred to us either by a friend, another business owner.

[58:24] or another even another department right within the city, which is kind of cool.

[58:29] So it can be a total hold hand to things that are very complex, needing multiple meetings to get to where they want to go.

[58:37] So a quick list that I have up there of folks that I've been dealing with, some of these seem a little bit old too, but I only get up here once a year, so I went back to the fall and kind of looked over the things that I did.

[58:49] The gentleman, Neil Quimby, that bought a lot from the Vashons, right across from

[58:59] Lowe's in Walmart, who's putting in a car wash.

[59:04] He tells me he's going to move ahead with that.

[59:06] He's also already marketing for other people to come in.

[59:10] He would like to put in more building, an A in other building or two more other buildings

[59:14] on that spot.

[59:16] A trucking company looking to expand up on Route 22.

[59:20] I've been working with Mountview Golfing to get some expanding

[59:24] and some upgrading done up there.

[59:27] I've been working with a developer that wants to look for

[59:30] distressed properties in Sanford so he can build new

[59:33] affordable housing.

[59:35] He does this already with Bitterford and Succo.

[59:38] A gentleman looking to bring indoor warehousing of luxury cars

[59:41] and RVs and boats.

[59:43] an artist recently just came in. She wants to open an art gallery downtown

[59:47] somewhere. She wants to, she's a little, that's a little more upscale art. She

[59:52] wants to do quarterly art exhibitions, painting workshops, and have places for

[59:58] local artists to sell their.

[1:00:00] There, art, all new and exciting stuff. Specialty Harris Salon, who is already here, but is considering some other areas so we're trying to retain her. I even had a woman from Portland, Common, who wants to start a community center here. I can flesh that out a little bit. That's all brand new. A few out of town brokers that I'm working with. I send them potential customers, buyers. I place newsletters for things that they might have in the town.

[1:00:30] and most recently a builder that's looking to build modular panels in-house and then bring them directly to his work site for stick built housing.

[1:00:39] So there is a lot going on. I get to talk with a lot of folks. Even today, a couple came in. They are looking to open a restaurant and are trying to decide what they want to do with that.

[1:00:52] So, and then, of course, under business advocacy would be also our new downtown loan program.

[1:01:00] We can talk about this right, but with our friends at partners, they are doing a low interest

[1:01:07] loan for businesses in the downtown that need to expand, need some working capital, need

[1:01:13] to do some freshening up of the property, maybe, which are great.

[1:01:18] I think they can get some a great interest rate and some good amortization schedules, so it would keep the payments low and

[1:01:26] Unlike the facade grant. We can do that without

[1:01:31] Without all the red tape

[1:01:33] You know where the where the building stands or whatever it is

[1:01:38] So the next section of my job of course spends a downtown. I was like to talk about that. I am a core member in a chief cat herder

[1:01:46] Among the puppeteer

[1:01:47] of a really hard working, totally volunteer grass roots organization that's really making

[1:01:53] a difference in Sanford.

[1:01:55] So we've just finished our community heart and soul program.

[1:01:57] I did send that off to Barry Dunn, so they have what the community said through our heart

[1:02:03] and soul stories.

[1:02:05] We created the action plan in the summary report which I presented just last week, last

[1:02:10] council meeting, and I know you know that was no small task.

[1:02:15] So after four years of story gathering,

[1:02:17] statement drafting, community events,

[1:02:19] community vetting, re-visiting, re-vetting,

[1:02:22] we got that job done.

[1:02:23] So I do have a good bad nugly

[1:02:25] in my little presentation, the bad,

[1:02:28] we have declined in participants

[1:02:31] like what happens with total

[1:02:36] with organizations that are totally volunteer.

[1:02:40] So in we had to reduce the amount of our events as well,

[1:02:44] held downtown, although our first regular meeting getting back on track will be September

[1:02:50] 9th, so we'll get the crew back together from over the summer. That's always been

[1:02:55] a time that we meet spotty here and there. The good, since we finished the heart and soul,

[1:03:01] there were two people that followed me out of the chambers last time I was here and said

[1:03:06] they want to be on heart and soul. They're ready to sign up. They want to be at the next meeting,

[1:03:09] and we have some folks that in our last vetting said they already want some jobs so I think it's going to breathe some new folks coming in.

[1:03:21] No ugly.

[1:03:22] That's just being funny.

[1:03:24] So facade grant.

[1:03:25] The first two projects we worked on was the new onings at the trust building and also the facade that

[1:03:37] Garnsey brothers did downtown.

[1:03:40] We have set aside 25,000 full grant I believe for 949, I'm sorry, Main Street, which is the

[1:03:55] There's a section of the roof that needs to be replaced and full painting and fences and then another 25,000 for

[1:04:04] 886 Main Street, which is a portion of Main Street Marketplace. And I think I'll have probably four or five thousand dollars left over once those two projects go through if you know of any

[1:04:14] even if it's just a small project for right downtown. And then the facade grant money will be used out.

[1:04:22] And then lastly, it's just the rest of my time spending on things like staying up to date with real estate,

[1:04:32] talking to commercial real estate agents, fast food chains, other commercial developments,

[1:04:37] staying up to date with changing bills on state level that might affect growth in economies,

[1:04:42] working with the Sanford Housing on the development board,

[1:04:47] getting through the environmental review process for the home for good, attending board

[1:04:54] design reviews, site plan review and those on the potential buildings that I might be working

[1:04:59] on, working with codes and planning and asking way more questions than they ever wanted me

[1:05:04] to ask and whining at them quite a bit. So they have to put up with me. And of course, the

[1:05:11] made men's stuff and keeping Keith in line.

[1:05:14] That's a pretty big job right there.

[1:05:17] So the last slides I would just wanted to put up

[1:05:20] because I thought it'd be kind of fun

[1:05:22] is does everybody remember Ballinger Auto,

[1:05:25] which is now this beautiful building that TVD is doing?

[1:05:31] This is a TIFF project that wouldn't have happened

[1:05:33] without TIFF.

[1:05:35] Remember this, this is the old auto parts.

[1:05:40] now it's getting there. This has been a slow process. That owner has been doing all that cash money out of his pocket.

[1:05:46] He's not financing anything. But this week I saw that the new potted plants go in and the posts are up on the eyebrow up there.

[1:05:57] So I think he's getting close to maybe doing the light fixtures of view to light fixtures. Yes, I think that's my head in the window because they happen to be open when I was driving by.

[1:06:07] next one remember what 40 I think it's 41 Washington you still look like before

[1:06:11] the facade grant and we put all the new glass in there for him so what's going

[1:06:16] in there we don't he has not we don't know I just gave him another person who

[1:06:22] wants to go in there today just today so hopefully he'll start doing something

[1:06:28] with I think he's a beautiful look it did come out really it did come out

[1:06:32] really good. And remember, this is our backyard at Sanford

[1:06:35] Break and Tire, and that is for side grant money. And then I

[1:06:40] put Jagger Mill in there.

[1:06:44] I wanted to get a better picture, but it

[1:06:46] was raining yesterday. And then remember the vacant lot across

[1:06:49] the street, you can see the trust building in the background too,

[1:06:54] which is now this whole project. So I mean, a lot of things are

[1:06:59] going on downtown. You don't, you know what they say, you walk by

[1:07:02] I buy something 24 times, and you don't even see it anymore, right?

[1:07:06] So there's a lot of great things that have gone on just in the last couple of years.

[1:07:10] And then there's the old dress building, which I can't even believe it looked like that.

[1:07:13] And then with the new onings on there.

[1:07:16] So that's what I've been up to.

[1:07:19] If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them.

[1:07:21] Thank you, Mary.

[1:07:23] Does anyone have any questions or comments for Mary?

[1:07:26] Well, in case you couldn't harass Keith.

[1:07:28] And Mary, I think you do a great job like showing people, I know it was just a short time

[1:07:34] ago.

[1:07:34] It seems like a long time, but see how bad it looked and see how nice it looked now.

[1:07:38] Good job with that.

[1:07:39] Because it's like we forget.

[1:07:41] We do forget.

[1:07:42] Yeah.

[1:07:42] There are some great things going on.

[1:07:45] Thank you, Mary.

[1:07:45] Thank you.

[1:07:48] And now for public participation, and this is stuff that is not on the agenda, and it's

[1:07:54] for Sanford Springville residents and John Hinkelman, come on down.

[1:07:59] And we time it just to let you know.

[1:08:02] Yep, three minutes.

[1:08:03] Got it.

[1:08:04] I'm John Hinkelman, South Samford, about AmeriCity Council and city manager and staff.

[1:08:10] I'm here to provide a point of clarification for documents being provided to residents when

[1:08:15] council makes final decisions for road, road that roads are private.

[1:08:20] I've been personally gone through this myself, I was a bit confused when we were providing

[1:08:23] information regarding homeowner's associations or each of ways.

[1:08:27] To fully understand our options within my community, I reached out to the

[1:08:31] transportation or the standing transportation committee at the state legislative level.

[1:08:36] They confirmed that statutory road associations covered under 23 MRS section 3101 and

[1:08:44] 3106 are likely the best option for residents.

[1:08:48] Additionally, they provided me with, and I shared with public works, a DEP handbook that clearly states the reason why you all rightfully made the decision for private road determination, but also options that are available.

[1:09:06] I'm asking for the city to provide at least the first eight pages of this manual to future road decisions so that it clearly describes what's going on and that decisions in their neighborhoods can be made.

[1:09:18] This will provide residents with a clear regulatory background and options to move forward.

[1:09:23] My intent tonight is to make sure that the city is aware of the state resources to better assist our neighbors.

[1:09:29] As public works, does their assessments on future roads?

[1:09:34] And then the second note I had, I had already talked to Jamie regarding public participation for the comprehensive plan.

[1:09:41] I understand the website online for the city is a little behind.

[1:09:45] a lot of community members would like to attend these events, but I did a quick

[1:09:49] Google search and I looked on the city website and one that has the survey and I

[1:09:54] could not find these dates. I personally would like to attend these events and I

[1:09:58] know they're listed in the Sanford Springville News, but having it publicly

[1:10:01] available would be very helpful. That's all I have. Thank you. All right, thank you.

[1:10:07] All right, there is nothing on the consent agenda or old business so on to new

[1:10:13] business. The first one is an order to review the proposed slate of officers as put forth

[1:10:20] in the 2027 May Municipal Association, M and M, Executive Committee, and to authorize

[1:10:27] the City Manager to submit the ballot on behalf of the City Council. Could I have a motion

[1:10:32] first, please, Nate?

[1:10:35] Oh, so moved Madam Mayor.

[1:10:36] A second.

[1:10:39] Any discussion on this?

[1:10:44] All those in favor? Thank you.

[1:10:48] And now the acceptance of the fiscal year 25, Edwood, and I think it's BIM, BIM,

[1:10:57] Ms. Norr, Memorial Justice Assistant Grant Jagg for $16,877 for law enforcement

[1:11:08] equipment and technology.

[1:11:12] Please introduce yourself.

[1:11:14] Hi, everyone.

[1:11:15] I'm Matthew Ganyan, the Deputy Chief of Police for Sanford.

[1:11:18] And I know that the mayor likes some education in background.

[1:11:22] So I'll just talk briefly on what the JAG grant actually is other than the acronym.

[1:11:28] So the Edward Burn Memorial Justice Assistance Grant, commonly known as the JAG program,

[1:11:33] is administered by the U.S. Department of Justice to the Bureau of Justice Assistance.

[1:11:38] It is the leading source of federal justice funding provided to state and local jurisdictions

[1:11:42] across the country, and the program provides funding to support a broad range of public

[1:11:47] safety and criminal justice needs, including law enforcement equipment and technology, training,

[1:11:54] crime prevention, prosecution and courts corrections, and other initiatives designed to improve community

[1:12:00] safety.

[1:12:01] And the program is named in honor of New York City Police Officer Edward Eddie Burn, who

[1:12:05] It was killed in the line of duty in 1988 while protecting a witness in a drug case.

[1:12:09] So this is a grant that we apply for every year.

[1:12:13] So this particular award was for $16,877, which will allow us to acquire equipment without placing the full financial burden for the Sanford Tax Pairs.

[1:12:24] And we'll use that money for equipment and training at the police department.

[1:12:29] Great, thank you, any questions?

[1:12:33] and more for the public who may not read the full agenda packet to share the fact that

[1:12:39] this is a one-time investment, meaning there aren't future budgetary impacts on the municipal

[1:12:43] budget, is that correct? Correct. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. All right, so can I have a motion,

[1:12:49] please? Jeanie? I'm like a motion to accept the grant. Second, Jonathan? I'll suck them up. All those

[1:12:57] in favor? Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you.

[1:13:02] Okay. Allison, there's a stool down here. You might need it seeing as you have most of the rest of the agenda.

[1:13:11] So the first thing is in order to approve and authorize the City Manager's sign, the request for release from federal obligations to be sent to the Federal Aviation Administration for approximately 40 acres of land at the San Francisco Regional Airport in order to sell a parcel to the Sanford

[1:13:32] spring veil, fishing game, protection, protective association, rub buildings, and the Sanford Police Department.

[1:13:39] Now, keep in mind this that we're voting on, or going to be voting on, it relates to everything from this point on practically.

[1:13:48] So, we go ahead.

[1:13:51] Good evening, I'm Alison Navia, the manager of our Sanford Seacos Regional Airport, and that is correct.

[1:13:58] So it looks like there's a lot on the agenda, but it's really just two different projects that we've been working on in a long time, and these items will button all of those up so you never have to see them again, hopefully.

[1:14:09] So this first one originated when we did the phase one of the master plan update.

[1:14:16] So in the packet, I believe it's page 107, that has the exhibit a official property map of the airport.

[1:14:22] When we did the master plan, we did a comprehensive look at all of the property that the airport has, we've done this in the past, we did it right when I started the first master plan update was 2014, and that's when we identified surplus land for non-aeronautical use that we ended up using for the solar project, so then this time we identified this little piece of land that you wouldn't think is on airport property just based on where it is up off the lane on the back of gatehouse road, but the property kind of circles up around, and

[1:14:52] that shooting range used to be part of the naval shooting range years ago.

[1:14:57] So that's how it came to be part of the airport process.

[1:15:01] And in that master plan, we identified that as I said as surplus property. So that's not needed for any future aeronautical development, so we could build 200 more hangars and never need that. It's on the other side of environmentally sensitive areas. So there's so a lot of wetlands in between here and there, in between the active airfield and there. And then there's also DOT conservation easement that was put in place as compensation for when the high school was developed.

[1:15:29] So that's that little hashed area that you see that says DOT conservation, that's what

[1:15:33] that is.

[1:15:35] And the other reason that we identified it as something to do something about is because

[1:15:39] it's a compliance issue.

[1:15:40] So that brings us into what we're doing now because there's two different ways that that's

[1:15:45] obligated to be used for aeronautical use.

[1:15:48] One is in the deed itself, it says that we're only supposed to use the airport property

[1:15:51] for aviation.

[1:15:53] And then the other is every time we get one of those convenient grants that helps pay for

[1:15:56] so much of our infrastructure, it tells us all those things again in the form of

[1:16:00] grand assurances. So this that we're I'm asking you to vote on tonight is the

[1:16:06] release from those federal obligations just for that chunk of property. So we

[1:16:11] said about doing this quite a while ago, over a year ago, and to kind of fix the

[1:16:16] compliance issue in the meantime, you'll remember that I came to you guys with a

[1:16:20] lease for the Sanford Springvale Protective Association. So that was just to kind

[1:16:24] to get us through when it had some of that legal use that FA would want to see so they

[1:16:28] could see we were taking corrective action until we got this done.

[1:16:32] So that was in there and that's a part of the packet.

[1:16:35] And in that release, I need to do three things.

[1:16:37] I need to give them the letter that fulfills all of the federal requirements explaining why

[1:16:41] this is necessary and why they should approve it.

[1:16:44] We need to prove that we're getting fair market value for it, so that's where the appraisal

[1:16:48] comes in.

[1:16:48] And then we need to update that exhibit A, which is that official property map that the FA

[1:16:54] access. So that's what why the packet is so long, and these land releases take so much

[1:17:00] time to put together because you have to get an official survey. You have to do all

[1:17:03] the deed research. You have to get the appraisal done. And in this particular case, I was also

[1:17:08] facilitating negotiations between Rob or the police department and Sanford Springvale

[1:17:14] fishing game. So I went to some of their meetings and got everybody around the table and we figured

[1:17:19] out a plan to make it happen. So the way that it's set up is they paid for everything

[1:17:26] so far as far as the survey of the appraisal, so there's no cost to the airport or the

[1:17:30] city for those. And then rub and the fishing game association have agreed to split the cost

[1:17:36] of the PD land so that the city doesn't incur any costs to have to pay one pocket to the

[1:17:43] other from the PD to the airport. So they were generous enough to offer to do that. In exchange

[1:17:48] change for that, you'll see on one of the maps, it shows that the PD land would be split in the future if we ever stop using it.

[1:17:55] So that's one of the conditions that'll be part of the deeds in the easement, that if the PD ever finds a range somewhere else and

[1:18:02] stops using it in recognition for them splitting the cost of it, that would be one of the conditions.

[1:18:08] So working with the city's attorneys came up with all of the deeds, all of the easements so that the PD will have an easement

[1:18:15] and the Fish and Game will have an easement.

[1:18:17] I made sure that those easements were not only just for the road itself, but also for future

[1:18:22] utilities because right now there's no power back there and I know they want to do improvements.

[1:18:26] So I made sure that those were in that.

[1:18:29] And as far as the finances go, the fair market value turned out to be $165,000.

[1:18:35] So FAA requires that that money get dedicated for future aviation use for the airport.

[1:18:40] So that will be set aside and then the count and then we can elect to use it for capital

[1:18:46] offsets or whatever we want to use it for in the future for that.

[1:18:51] So with that, the only cost that we might incur is if the timing works out ideally will

[1:18:58] be almost done with phase two of the master plan and they're updating the Zibade anyways.

[1:19:03] So we can have the grant pay for that.

[1:19:05] But if we need to get them to do it separately, it'll probably be about $1,500 to update that, which will find a way to absorb in the airport's budget.

[1:19:15] So typically these land releases, we had several consultants at our airport committee meeting last week, and they told me, you know, if anywhere from like 30 to 90 grand, if they were going to do one of these.

[1:19:27] So that saves significant money being able to do that in-house and this is the third one that I've done since I've been here

[1:19:33] So we did the solar we did another Robin Flemish so they could both expand and then this one will take care of this

[1:19:39] And hopefully it'll be the last one for a while because it's a pretty heavy lift

[1:19:44] So if you have any other questions that's kind of in a nutshell those almost 200 pages of documents that are in there

[1:19:51] All right.

[1:19:52] Before questions, can I have a motion in a second?

[1:19:56] A motion, Pete?

[1:19:57] A motion to accept.

[1:19:59] A second, Jonathan?

[1:20:01] No, a second.

[1:20:02] All right.

[1:20:03] Any questions?

[1:20:05] Jonathan?

[1:20:06] Just a comment.

[1:20:08] I just want to thank you for putting a lot of effort

[1:20:11] into this.

[1:20:12] I know it's been an ongoing project for a little while.

[1:20:16] So just want to appreciate it.

[1:20:19] You have a decent game.

[1:20:20] Yeah.

[1:20:21] Yeah.

[1:20:21] No.

[1:20:22] I do.

[1:20:23] Okay.

[1:20:24] So, yeah.

[1:20:25] Thank you.

[1:20:25] All those in favor?

[1:20:27] Thank you.

[1:20:28] Don't go away.

[1:20:31] An order to approve and authorize the City Manager to sign a purchase and sale agreement

[1:20:35] between the City of Sanford and rub buildings for approximately 20.39 acres at the Sanford

[1:20:43] Secos regional airport in the amount of $90,750.

[1:20:49] Can I have a motion, please?

[1:20:51] Nate?

[1:20:52] So moved Madam Mayor.

[1:20:53] A second, Jeanie?

[1:20:54] A second.

[1:20:56] All those, any questions or do you kind of all get it from the beginning?

[1:20:59] Okay.

[1:21:00] All those in favor?

[1:21:01] Thank you.

[1:21:04] And the next is in order to approve and authorize the Sydney Manager to sign a purchase and sale agreement between the city of Sanford.

[1:21:11] and the Sanford Springvale Fish and Game Protective Association for Approximately 15.4 acres at the Sanford Seqos Regional Airport in the amount of $74,250.

[1:21:26] Can I have a motion, please?

[1:21:28] Nate?

[1:21:30] A move.

[1:21:30] A second, Jonathan?

[1:21:32] I'll second them out.

[1:21:34] Any questions?

[1:21:37] Can I have a, yeah, all those in favor?

[1:21:40] Thank you.

[1:21:43] You're still on, here we go.

[1:21:46] In order to approve and authorize a city manager to sign a contract for a construction for

[1:21:51] a vehicle service road and Seaco's taxi lane at the Sanford Seaco's Regional Airport,

[1:21:58] with Shaw's brothers in the amount of, you see, $1 million, $59, $171 at 10 cents.

[1:22:08] 10,000.

[1:22:10] 10,000, excuse me.

[1:22:12] All right.

[1:22:14] And could I have a motion please?

[1:22:17] Ann?

[1:22:18] So move Madam Mayor.

[1:22:19] With my corrected thing.

[1:22:20] Okay.

[1:22:21] And second.

[1:22:22] Pete?

[1:22:23] I'll second.

[1:22:24] Thank you.

[1:22:25] All, any questions?

[1:22:27] All those in favor?

[1:22:31] And the next, in order to approve and authorize the Sydney Manager to sign a contract for a resident,

[1:22:37] engineering grant administration, and project close out for the construction phase of the vehicle service road, and

[1:22:47] Seacos Taxi Lane project with McFarlane Johnson in the amount of, let me see, 252,600.

[1:22:56] I think I got that one right this time.

[1:22:59] Can I have a motion please, Nate?

[1:23:02] So moved, Madame Mayor.

[1:23:03] Thank you.

[1:23:03] Jeannie a second.

[1:23:04] I'll second up.

[1:23:05] Thank you very much.

[1:23:07] Any questions?

[1:23:08] Ann.

[1:23:08] Madam Mayor, just for the public, I want to comment that both this item and the prior

[1:23:12] one, the city of Sanford only has to pay 2.5%.

[1:23:16] I think it's worth mentioning that these projects are primarily covered by the FAA as well

[1:23:22] as mean DOT.

[1:23:25] So great partnership and fairly small burden on taxpayers.

[1:23:30] Thank you.

[1:23:32] construction hopefully in October.

[1:23:34] Oh, nice.

[1:23:36] It's only 30 days, so it's not a massive project.

[1:23:40] Any other comments?

[1:23:43] Steve, any comments on these two?

[1:23:45] Nothing?

[1:23:46] Yeah, it's bird season.

[1:23:47] You can't bird.

[1:23:47] Okay.

[1:23:48] And that's up in the real world.

[1:23:50] All those in favor?

[1:23:52] There we go.

[1:23:53] See, not too bad.

[1:23:55] Signal out.

[1:23:55] Thank you.

[1:23:56] Thank you.

[1:23:57] Thank you.

[1:23:58] And last but not least, in order to formally adopt the proposed drainage capital

[1:24:05] improvement plan recently completed in partnership with the Department of Public

[1:24:09] Works and the planning department as a broad guidance document for the city regarding

[1:24:16] an analysis of current and future stormwater development conditions.

[1:24:22] And I can see Matt is live on my computer anyway, so I imagine you're taken on away, go ahead.

[1:24:32] You know, it's really entertaining hearing you talk, but it would be nice to really hear you talk.

[1:24:38] There you have that.

[1:24:39] Perfect.

[1:24:41] Great.

[1:24:43] Thanks for that introduction.

[1:24:44] and it's discussed earlier in the city management port.

[1:24:49] We do have lots of unknowns under our streets and roads,

[1:24:54] particularly on high street,

[1:24:56] but much in the rest of Sanford,

[1:24:59] approximately a hundred and a half miles of roads

[1:25:01] in the streets have a really capital improvement plan

[1:25:06] that's dedicated for addressing

[1:25:09] the pavement service conditions.

[1:25:11] Public Works has historically only addressed the reconstruction of drainage when either

[1:25:16] reconstructing a road or during a dramatic failure of portions of that drainage system.

[1:25:21] So therefore, the proposed drainage capital improvement plan will serve to guide the city

[1:25:26] of Sanford for future investments in this critical infrastructure, better inventory capacity

[1:25:32] analysis, planning, budgeting, and coordination with concurrent efforts will have the city

[1:25:36] We seek to avoid emergency repairs, which can be excessively costly and hastily performed.

[1:25:43] The drainage capital improvement program can also serve as a foundational document for

[1:25:46] the establishment of a municipal storm monitoring utility should be decided in the future.

[1:25:51] That would consider the effects of development and encourage more responsible stewardship

[1:25:56] of community storm monitoring resources through municipal leadership.

[1:25:59] So the plan that's attached to your meeting minutes tonight considers a review of the existing conditions within the study area, which was predominantly the urban downtown portion of the city of Sanford.

[1:26:14] It is a large portion of approximately about two thirds of the community.

[1:26:20] It inventory documents is on the city's GIS platform so that includes things like catch

[1:26:27] basins, drainage pipes, drainage outlets, large culverts and bridges, and then also discuss

[1:26:34] the city on dams, which we also have a separate proposal under separate cover from right peers

[1:26:40] to start taking a closer look at the city's dams.

[1:26:43] The drainage CIP further went through and started looking at gaps in the GIS systems knowledge base.

[1:26:51] There are 277 missing information locations identified, identification of known drainage problems.

[1:26:59] So those were compiled in the GIS and directly from our highway maintainers.

[1:27:04] We had interviews with them directly.

[1:27:06] Of the 38 urban drainage networks identified in the plan, only eight of them had sufficient

[1:27:11] in our capacity per hydro-cad modeling.

[1:27:14] So, you know, 30 of those systems

[1:27:16] are basically undersized currently.

[1:27:20] So, in the peak storm event, as we all know,

[1:27:23] it gets larger and larger.

[1:27:25] Those systems are more prone to failure.

[1:27:27] So, instead of discussing about proposed improvements,

[1:27:32] the first recommendation is additional studies

[1:27:36] for the areas of known or observable issues.

[1:27:40] We would consider development of scope and repairs and reconstruction for those areas and then development of corresponding cost estimates.

[1:27:49] When discussing budgeting, the plan includes a conceptual 10-year drainage capital plan estimated needs began for reference purposes at 762,000 in 2027 and escalate to 1.6 million in 2036 over a 10-year plan.

[1:28:08] As there's no current dedicated draged capital proof plan funded by the city funding is going to at this point continue to come from the very big capital improvement program.

[1:28:18] But we would definitely be submitting a separate CIP budget request in the next budget cycle for your consideration.

[1:28:25] The document identifies a potential funding partnership opportunities as well.

[1:28:29] The first of which was already mentioned would be a stormwater utility fee program, which

[1:28:35] will help the city realize that MS-4 requirements in the future.

[1:28:39] It looks like grant opportunities, strong towns, guidance, and partnerships with developers

[1:28:46] and contractors.

[1:28:48] So the issue surrounding correcting, substandard, drainage infrastructure, bring vibrancy to

[1:28:53] the downtown area, increasing climate readiness, and dissuading urban sprawl, all the pieces

[1:28:57] of the same puzzle, leveraging existing funds and opportunities,

[1:29:02] commend these partnerships and developers

[1:29:04] and stakeholder organizations can provide a multi-pronged approach

[1:29:06] to fixing and improving existing change issues,

[1:29:09] well-prepared for future climate readiness

[1:29:11] and future development in Sanford, Sanford's urban core.

[1:29:17] Thank you.

[1:29:18] Thank you.

[1:29:18] That one, Brad.

[1:29:19] Brad.

[1:29:20] Matt, I have to tell you that when we watch you,

[1:29:24] your voice is a little off

[1:29:29] from your lips moving. So it's quite entertaining.

[1:29:33] I just choose not to look, because it's too late.

[1:29:36] You have to almost close your eyes and just listen.

[1:29:40] One second. Could I have a motion first?

[1:29:45] Genie?

[1:29:46] Oh, my motion.

[1:29:47] A second.

[1:29:49] And?

[1:29:50] And I second that.

[1:29:51] Okay. Any questions now?

[1:29:53] All right. So first of all, we looked at this property.

[1:29:55] I thought it was a great report, because it's really user-friendly.

[1:29:58] So anybody who wants...

[1:30:00] So really look at this. You can see highlighted roads and it discusses that particular neighborhood. Recommendations for, for instance, I'm just going to grab one that I popped into. The neighborhood that includes North Avenue, Island Avenue. I think we all know there have always been issues down that area. And it talks about what should be done. If you're looking at major road reconstruction in that area, how do you let people tap into that? Should you let people tap into it before you do some studies?

[1:30:29] But you can really see how they've grouped it together, and that is telling you how drainage groups together too, and how all the street drainage comes together and is handled as a cluster almost.

[1:30:42] And that leads to my question.

[1:30:44] So if you take this particular area, which I actually happen to just flip to, is some of that being done as we are doing cotton street because I know the drainage was an issue with the drainage coming across.

[1:30:59] of Cottage Street and down North Avenue

[1:31:00] and Island Avenue were part of the extension

[1:31:04] of the Cottage Street project, I should say.

[1:31:08] So just like, so this is already somewhat

[1:31:10] of a working document, is what I'm trying to need to.

[1:31:13] Absolutely, and we were aware of that drainage issue

[1:31:20] coming from Cottage Street, flowing towards the National River.

[1:31:23] So when we went to Inquiry Agreement

[1:31:27] with main department of transportation, they proposed just a tie-in to those existing

[1:31:32] systems that ran through backyards. And fortunately, I had some background to wear with all

[1:31:39] to put a little footnote on the agreement saying that they had to take it to a responsible

[1:31:43] outlet. They couldn't just let it go through somebody's back yard. So there's a better,

[1:31:49] an additional million dollars worth of drainage investment that the state is making with us

[1:31:54] and the US DOT to take that range down north Avenue,

[1:31:58] a rate of high street, and then a left towards the river.

[1:32:02] So, yes, a portion of that is already being accounted for,

[1:32:09] but there's still more backyard systems,

[1:32:13] there's more pipes that run under buildings,

[1:32:15] under driveways that we really can't retain very well.

[1:32:18] So, as the plan kind of talks about it,

[1:32:21] and you're right to kind of like flip open

[1:32:23] and look at one of those systems,

[1:32:25] we really need to study those a lot closer

[1:32:27] to find out in each case what do we need to do,

[1:32:29] and how best to prosecute it.

[1:32:32] I think I flipped to a great neighborhood to discuss,

[1:32:35] actually, quite timely.

[1:32:39] Thank you.

[1:32:40] Anyone else?

[1:32:41] Ann?

[1:32:43] Now I might have missed this in the 200 plus page plan document,

[1:32:49] but could you clarify when we talk about

[1:32:51] about the sample possibly needing based on the 2030 census, the separate storm sewer system.

[1:32:56] Is that just the population base and the presumption that will grow to a certain population at that point?

[1:33:04] I'm not an expert in that.

[1:33:08] As far as the designation is concerned, what I've been told is that once it's community reaches

[1:33:15] which is a certain density and growth and urbanization that the state steps in and

[1:33:22] makes the designates an MS4 community that you have a certain amount of impaired acres.

[1:33:31] And then they step in and forcibly change your standards for strong water control, both

[1:33:40] quality and quantity.

[1:33:42] We have been working for years now to try to make that transition as painless as possible

[1:33:47] when it comes.

[1:33:49] All of the things that you're discussing tonight and the conference at plan point towards

[1:33:56] Sanford achieving that urbanization, this is a document to help support that change when

[1:34:04] it comes.

[1:34:04] When we get the desired increase in population increase in economic development, that will come, that destination unfortunately, unfortunately will come along with it.

[1:34:17] And the more we can do to prepare for that day and make the transition, you know, less rough for us, the better part of that is doing things like the street sweeper agreement that we've got to pick up phosphorus.

[1:34:32] So, I think it's very important for us.

[1:34:33] Some of us is involved with main DEP.

[1:34:37] Matt Perventure is very interested in chapter 500.

[1:34:43] I know planning and codes is very into that compliance.

[1:34:47] So, the more embedded relationships are good forward

[1:34:50] with the state when the day comes,

[1:34:52] the better prepared we will be.

[1:34:54] So, it could happen before 2030.

[1:34:57] As far as I know, it will be with the census.

[1:35:00] I don't think it will happen before 23.

[1:35:02] Okay, thank you.

[1:35:03] All right.

[1:35:04] And for those of you who are wondering what we're going to do

[1:35:07] with those 270 pages,

[1:35:09] next meeting we're having a test

[1:35:11] and we're saying how well you're going to do.

[1:35:15] If you are interested in this document,

[1:35:17] I would say that if you can get to the first 11 pages,

[1:35:20] you've done really well.

[1:35:23] And what you say is a lot of like maps.

[1:35:27] And then as you get to the back,

[1:35:29] It's a lot of technical details, but really, if you can read the first 11, you got it.

[1:35:35] Matt, did those formulas actually mean something to you?

[1:35:39] They're turned into a lot of formulas at one point in the document.

[1:35:45] Um, yeah, there are.

[1:35:48] In the map of the description, the drainage, most interesting.

[1:35:51] Yeah.

[1:35:52] I skipped over stuff and went to the pictures.

[1:35:58] As complicated as they sound, when a developer comes in to develop in Sanford and they want

[1:36:06] to tie into our systems, we typically put the burden of proof on them that they can

[1:36:11] tie into our system.

[1:36:12] So not only do they have to analyze what's coming off there a lot, they have to analyze

[1:36:16] our entire system to see if our system can handle their flow.

[1:36:19] So, we kind of put them through the ringer a little bit.

[1:36:24] This will help start to alleviate that if we can do a better design on the system

[1:36:29] and say, like, yes, we can handle it.

[1:36:31] No, we can't.

[1:36:31] We might have a base model waiting for them so they don't have to reinvent the wheel every time.

[1:36:36] Thank you.

[1:36:38] Anything else?

[1:36:40] All those in favor?

[1:36:42] Thank you.

[1:36:43] All right, we're coming to the end of our meeting and are there any council comments?

[1:36:48] I've got a question. I was thinking about this the other day.

[1:36:51] Have we ever had, like as a council in the past, had in some sort of discussion on removing

[1:36:56] fluoride from the city drinking water?

[1:36:59] Yeah.

[1:37:00] The man has.

[1:37:01] She just was nodding.

[1:37:02] We had a presentation.

[1:37:03] I think if you want to learn about fluoride and the drinking water, the best person to talk

[1:37:06] to is our state representative.

[1:37:08] No, state representative, Amberi Mistracchi, who was at one time a dead until a hygienist.

[1:37:12] And she'll tell you horror stories of lack of fluoride.

[1:37:15] It's not, I understand, it's not us that need to worry, it's those children who don't have

[1:37:22] good dental treatment, that you will see severe impact to children.

[1:37:28] I would still like to maybe discuss it in the near future if possible, because a lot

[1:37:32] of that is showing that it's not true.

[1:37:36] There are studies in the latest, but this is a lot of us, this is a slide vote.

[1:37:40] This isn't a discussion for this.

[1:37:43] Right.

[1:37:43] I'm just asking us to put it on as a discussion.

[1:37:45] There's new evidence suggesting that it's not true.

[1:37:49] So I just wanted to preside as always evolving.

[1:37:52] I think it's something that we should look at again

[1:37:54] because there are a lot of negative impacts

[1:37:56] of fluoride on human health.

[1:37:58] And I think it's something that we need to look at now

[1:37:59] that there is new evidence out there.

[1:38:03] That's all I'm saying.

[1:38:04] Okay, that's kind of a pretty wide vote I believe.

[1:38:06] Yes, it's not, we don't like that decision.

[1:38:09] I just just wanted to never talk about it.

[1:38:11] That's all discussion.

[1:38:13] Yeah, okay.

[1:38:14] Anything else?

[1:38:17] I just want to share that I had a productive meeting with the main health representative and as part of that meeting at the request actually of Alex Clary, I asked about the opportunity for a community partnership with main health regarding safe needle disposal for residents and we will currently because main access points isn't here, there doesn't seem to be a very clear distinct path for a resident who might clean up needle waste to the

[1:38:44] and dispose of it in a formal format.

[1:38:48] So I pose that question.

[1:38:50] I haven't heard anything back yet, but I'll keep it posted.

[1:38:52] And then I did want to make sure that folks

[1:38:54] mock their calendar were way ahead.

[1:38:57] But Saturday, October 17th is the Chamber's autumn fest.

[1:39:00] Coming back as a reminder,

[1:39:02] and I'll probably see it a couple more times,

[1:39:03] but really hoping for a great turnout

[1:39:04] for this really first big Chamber of End back in Sanford.

[1:39:09] And I think it's super exciting,

[1:39:10] which is on the water, will be there,

[1:39:12] as well as a lot of other fun things.

[1:39:14] So I want to mention that and then the last thing is I want to wish all of our teachers and school staff and

[1:39:19] all the important people that make it possible for our students to attend school really

[1:39:24] Good luck

[1:39:26] Because I think that they're gonna start prior to our next meeting. So thank you. All right. Thank you

[1:39:31] Wheels and wings at the airport on the 22nd the Saturday and Sunday. I believe it's a $10 a charge for adults and five for children

[1:39:41] it's put on and sponsored by the Army. There's going to be a Black Hawk helicopter down there. There's going to be quite a bit

[1:39:48] 200 cars for a car show and Saturday.

[1:39:52] Sunday's touch a truck.

[1:39:54] So that'll be a match. So everybody with the big trucks will be down there so the kids can do that.

[1:39:58] Food trucks galore.

[1:40:01] It's a big deal. This is a really good fundraiser. So I hope to see everybody down there.

[1:40:06] Thank you Pete. And Pete was that

[1:40:09] Model cars or regular cars?

[1:40:11] It's a whole bunch of different classifications.

[1:40:15] Oh yeah, one more happy 37th anniversary to my wife.

[1:40:19] Yesterday, didn't want to forget that one.

[1:40:21] Almost. Almost.

[1:40:28] Jonathan?

[1:40:29] So this might fall better under agenda items,

[1:40:33] but I've gone by Heritage Crossing

[1:40:37] a number of times since the last meeting, and I know we did vote to make classify that

[1:40:45] as an abandoned building, but I haven't seen at least it appears as though that people

[1:40:53] are still getting there, hanging out there, I see vehicles down there, I don't see a lot

[1:40:59] of enforcement activity or even drivebys, so I would like to see an update on that and

[1:41:07] And if there's anything we can share about what's going on there and any changes that are being made.

[1:41:12] Thank you.

[1:41:14] Steve.

[1:41:15] Regular patrols, they're on an early basis.

[1:41:17] There has been a number of arrests made.

[1:41:20] I can't tell you the results of the prosecution on those arrests, but there have been a rest for

[1:41:28] criminal trespass on that property since the Council took the action.

[1:41:37] Okay.

[1:41:37] Any future agenda items?

[1:41:41] Seeing none, this meeting is adjourned.

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