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Okay. All right. Well welcome
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everyone and thank you for
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joining us for today's rainy
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FEBRUARY 19th sb board meeting.
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For the record, my name is
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David Silva and I'm the vice
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chair on the sb Kag board.
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MADAM Clerk, could you please
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facilitate roll call? Director
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Perotti here. Director Patino
[5:46]
here. Director Mosby here.
[5:50]
Director. Lee here. Director.
[5:52]
Lavagnino here. Director.
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Julian here. Director. Hartman
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here. Director of Friedman here.
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Director. Clerk. Here. Director.
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Capps here. Vice chair Silva
[6:04]
here. And Chair Nelson is
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absent. Great. Didn't hear my
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name. Oh, director Brown, my
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apologies. And Director Brown's
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here. If we could please stand
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for the Pledge of Allegiance.
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Ready again? I pledge
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allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America. And
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to the Republic for which it
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stands. One nation under GOD,
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indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all. All right,
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next up, we'll move into public
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comment for items not on
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today's agenda. Speakers have
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up to three minutes each with a
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total of 15 minutes allotted
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for public comment. Is there
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any public comment today? If
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there are any members of the
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public on the zoom webinar who
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wish to speak, would you please
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use the Raise Hand feature and
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I will call upon you? I do not
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have any paper request to speak
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forms, and there are no
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attendees on zoom who wish to
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speak at this time. Splendid.
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Moving along, we'll move on to
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approval of consent calendar.
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Oh. I'm sorry. First time
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caller, longtime listener. So
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is there any announcements for
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the consent calendar at this
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time? There are no
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announcements for the consent
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calendar. And did we receive
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any public comment on any items
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on the consent calendar? We do
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have one hand raised on zoom,
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and if there are any other
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attendees on the zoom webinar
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who wish to speak, would you
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please use the Raise Hand
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feature for the consent
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calendar and we will call upon
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you. Our first speaker is Barry
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Remus. If you can, please
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unmute yourself. Thank you.
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Good morning, Chair Silva and
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board members. My name is Barry
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Remus and I'm representing Move
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Santa Barbara County and we
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advocate and educate and
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encourage people who walk, bike
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and take public transit. Just
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want to to make a quick
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statement in support of item
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consent. Item number four f as
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in not a freeway. We would like
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to voice our support for the
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appropriation of the additional.
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The $100,000 in measure a
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funding for bike, ped and Safe
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Routes to school project for
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the Buellton highway 246
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improvements project for bike
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and pedestrian. This would be a
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reduction in lane width and
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addition of bike lanes with
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buffers and pedestrian safety
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amenities, and this would bring
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improved safety to the area,
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which, as we know along highway
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246, is a fast moving corridor
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by avenue of the flags. And
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this would bring not only
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increased public safety for
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improvements for pedestrians,
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bicyclists and Ada access, but
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also economic vitality in
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making them a more welcoming
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environment that calms traffic
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and improves the area immensely.
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So we would certainly want to
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endorse the support of and
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support the appropriation and
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encourage your vote in support
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of the consent item. Thank you
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very much. Thank you very much.
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MR. Remus. Is there any other
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public comment at this time?
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Are there any other members of
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the public on the zoom webinar
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who wish to speak? Would you
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please use the raise Hand
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feature and I will call upon
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you. And there are no responses.
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Thank you. Would any any
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directors like to pull an item
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at this time? All right. If not,
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then I would look for a motion.
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Second, Hartman moves approval
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of the consent agenda. Second.
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Splendid. We have a roll call.
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Vote director. Perotti. Hi.
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Director Patino. Director Mosby,
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I, director. Lee. Hi. Director.
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Lavagnino. Hi. Director.
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Jillian. Director. Hartman. I
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director. Friedman. I director.
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Brown. Director. Clark. Hi. I
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director Clark. I believe I
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heard an I MR. Caps I and vice
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chair Silva I and chair Nelson
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is absent. Great. Now moving on
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to item five a MADAM Clerk,
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will you please read item five
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a into the record. Item five a
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expanded intercity passenger
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rail service recommended.
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Action one approve and
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authorize the Executive
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Director to execute a
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cooperative funding agreement
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with the Los Angeles, San Diego,
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San Luis Obispo Rail Corridor
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Agency, Lausanne with the
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Ventura County Transportation
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Commission ctc to provide
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expanded intercity passenger
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rail service to be negotiated,
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comparable to the attached for
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a 2,000,219 $240 with sb k
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contributing an amount not to
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exceed 1,109,620. Similar to
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the attached upon approval by
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legal counsel and two approving
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authorized Executive Director
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to take actions required to
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implement the agreement per
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article six. Great. And it
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looks like we have Whitney Rush
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to give the presentation. Yes.
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Good morning. Directors. In
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2008, voters approved a measure
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a with a simple promise, a lane
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and a train. And today we are
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closer than we have been in
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years on finally delivering
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that train. My name is Whitney
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Rush. I'm a senior
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transportation planner in the
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Multimodal Programs division,
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and today I'm excited to
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present the next chapter in a
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story that has had a couple
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route adjustments, but one that
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we are genuinely excited to
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bring to you today about
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expanded intercity passenger
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rail service. This presentation
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very closely mirrors what
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Director of Multimodal Programs
[11:53]
Erin Bonfiglio presented to the
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South Coast subregional last
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week. The subregional did
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approve both staff
[11:59]
recommendations, and we're
[12:00]
excited today to bring this
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item to the full board. Today's
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presentation will give a
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background on the project.
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We'll give a status update with
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key benefits and also seek your
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authorization for sb Executive
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Director to move into a
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cooperative agreement for this
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expanded intercity rail service.
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Q Lauren. Okay, fantastic. No
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better place to begin than at
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the beginning with measure a,
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it was passed in 2008 by voters
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with the goal of bringing
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increased rail service to the
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corridor. To reach that end, we
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would need a coordinated effort
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to expand service and
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operational plan cooperative
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agreements and eventually a
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pilot demonstration. In 2018,
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sb did launch a morning train
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and as you MAY recall in 2020,
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that train was canceled due to
[13:02]
Covid and never resumed. Nearly
[13:04]
three years ago, sb began the
[13:06]
careful work to retrace these
[13:09]
steps to provide expanded
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service and restore that
[13:15]
service to our community.
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Lauren. So, as a reminder,
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measure a is a dedicated South
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Coast subregional project. When
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it was passed, it set aside
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dedicated funding of $25
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million over 30 years. This
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money could be used on things
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like reducing congestion,
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alternative to driving on
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highway 101, capital and
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operating costs and promotions,
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marketing and connecting
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service to make this a full
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mobility option for our
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commuters. Next, sb, cag
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recognizes that this is only
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possible through sustained and
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strong partnerships, in
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particular with Vctc, the
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Ventura County Transportation
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Commission, and the Los Angeles,
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San Diego San Luis Obispo Rail
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Corridor Agency that manages
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the Pacific Surfliner. Vctc in
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particular, has been a valued
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partner, and they have agreed
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to jointly fund this new pilot
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project. 50 over 50. Many
[14:17]
pieces had to fall into place
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to make this moment possible,
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and over the past six months,
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many of them have made this
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option most feasible and better
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than all previous iterations.
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One was the state equipment
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redeployment, one of the
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biggest barriers in prior
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attempts to get the service
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going was that there just
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wasn't existing train equipment.
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Last year, the state redeployed
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train equipment from northern
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California to the corridor, and
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now Lausanne has the capacity
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to add this additional round
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trip service. Additionally,
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intercity ticket sales from Los
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Angeles clear through to San
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Luis Obispo will help offset
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the cost of this train. Also,
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by working directly with
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Lausanne, we have Union Pacific
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access. In previous attempts of
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this service that have been a
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large barrier, and so by
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working directly with Lausanne,
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we have that Union Pacific
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access. And probably one of the
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biggest benefits is that
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significantly reduces sb kags
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insurance risk by leveraging
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Amtrak's national agreements.
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And finally, the the goals set
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out by Lausanne are fulfilling
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a lot of the state rail plan
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goals for the region. So we're
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excited that a lot of pieces
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fell into place in the past six
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months to make this option not
[15:37]
only feasible, but the best
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option possible. So let's get
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into the details and look at
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this proposed schedule for the
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new train. As I mentioned, it
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will start at Los Angeles Union
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Station at 5:13 A.M. Arrive at
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Moorpark at 6:31 A.M. And begin
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its Ventura County pickups.
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Camarillo 643, Oxnard, 657 and
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Ventura at the very easy to
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remember time of 711.
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Carpinteria 737 and arrive into
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Santa Barbara just before 8
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A.M. And Goleta at 811. The
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train will then continue on to
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San Luis Obispo, where it will
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turn around and provide a new
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midday southbound service. This
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service can work for tourists,
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those commuters with flexible
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schedules, or anyone who wants
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to get to downtown Los Angeles
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in time for dinner. However, sb
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Commute Focus will be on the
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currently existing southbound
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train 790, highlighted a little
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bit in red there on the right
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side. That train currently
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departs Goleta at 4:25 P.M.
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Santa Barbara at 440, and gets
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passengers into Ventura at 5:26
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P.M. Next slide Lauren. And to
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make this schedule a reality,
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we're asking you to approve sb
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Executive Director to enter
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into a cooperative agreement
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with Vctc and Lausanne. Some
[17:04]
key elements of that
[17:07]
cooperative agreement include a
[17:10]
fixed fee agreement of about
[17:11]
$2.2 million, again split
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evenly between sb and Vctc, so
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we would be in at $1.1 million.
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It's a 12 month service pilot,
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but it will run 365 days a year.
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This is not a Monday through
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Friday train. This does not
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take off for holidays. It will
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run 365 days a year. The
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estimated fare revenues are
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expected to be around $2.3
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million, and commuter tickets
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and passes will be available,
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including a subsidized ten ride
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pass and monthly pass. We're
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excited that this cooperative
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agreement has already been
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approved by the Ventura County
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Transportation Commission at
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their meeting on FEBRUARY 6th,
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and was just approved by the
[17:54]
board two days ago on February
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17th. So with this board's
[17:57]
approval, it is the last and
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truly monumental step to make
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this schedule a reality. And
[18:02]
with that, we can look to
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launch this service in late
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APRIL or early MAY. Lloyd. And
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so, just as a reminder for both
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of you to for all of you today,
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the two staff recommendations
[18:14]
in front of you are to approve
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and authorize the Executive
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Director to execute a
[18:19]
cooperative funding agreement
[18:21]
with Lausanne and Vctc, and
[18:22]
then to approve and authorize
[18:24]
the Executive Director to take
[18:26]
actions required to implement
[18:28]
the agreement. With that, I
[18:30]
thank you for your time, and
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I'm available for any questions.
[18:33]
Thank you very much. Are there
[18:35]
any questions for staff at this
[18:39]
time? I do or okay. Director
[18:41]
Lee we'll go. We'll go remote
[18:42]
first. Let's go for that down
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in Santa Barbara. So, director
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Lee, thank you. Thank you.
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Chair. Vice chair Silva. So the
[18:51]
question is the Ortega railing
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on that project? Does it have
[18:54]
any effect on this commuter
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rail approval. Well, it delay
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it or affected in any way as I
[19:01]
understand it, no. The Ortega
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siding project will not have
[19:06]
any effect on this train coming
[19:07]
online and will not impact the
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schedule as proposed to us by
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Lausanne. Got it. That's my
[19:13]
question. Thank you, director
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Lee. Any further questions down
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in Santa Barbara? Okay. We'll
[19:21]
bring it back here to Santa
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Maria. Director Patino. Yes.
[19:24]
Could you go back to the slide
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on the schedule? Yes. Of course.
[19:36]
Okay. I don't see Guadalupe in
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there. It's not going to stop
[19:40]
in Guadalupe. It is. This
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doesn't include. There's a lot
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of stops between Los Angeles
[19:44]
Union Station Moorpark and a
[19:46]
lot of stops between Goleta and
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San Luis Obispo. We can provide
[19:50]
directors with the full
[19:51]
schedule, but yes, it will stop
[19:53]
in Guadalupe serve, because I
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don't think that. I don't think
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the people in Santa Maria even
[19:58]
know that they can drive out to
[20:00]
Guadalupe to get on the train.
[20:02]
Yeah. In fact, I was talking to
[20:03]
some people yesterday about it
[20:04]
because I was at Vandenberg and
[20:07]
say, when you drive the take
[20:08]
the train, say Guadalupe to
[20:09]
Santa Barbara, it's just the
[20:11]
beautiful ocean view that you
[20:12]
don't get any other way other
[20:14]
than the train. It is so
[20:15]
beautiful. And yes, we can
[20:16]
definitely look into increasing
[20:17]
our efforts, especially the
[20:18]
Santa Maria. Again, this is
[20:20]
really focused on connecting
[20:21]
Ventura County and Santa
[20:22]
Barbara County, but more people
[20:23]
on the train throughout the
[20:28]
corridor is our goal. Thank you.
[20:30]
Any other questions here? I had
[20:32]
a couple. I just wanted to know.
[20:34]
I was just curious. I know this
[20:35]
is a 12 month service pilot
[20:36]
program that we're looking at,
[20:38]
and that this is being split
[20:41]
between the vc, vc and sb. Cag,
[20:43]
get all my acronyms correctly.
[20:44]
Will there be a chance after
[20:46]
that 12 months to know how many?
[20:48]
You know, I think about like
[20:49]
there's other agencies that are
[20:50]
benefiting from this rail as
[20:52]
well. So I think it's going
[20:53]
into the San Luis Obispo County
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and it's going down to la. Will
[20:56]
we be able to know how many
[20:58]
like how those agencies are
[20:59]
also participating in this or
[21:00]
utilizing this? Because I would
[21:02]
think that there might be a
[21:03]
discussion about funds sharing
[21:04]
after the 12 months, seeing how
[21:06]
it might be more agencies who
[21:07]
MAY want to participate in the
[21:09]
cost sharing of this, if those
[21:10]
agencies are also benefiting
[21:11]
from this. Yes, of course, the
[21:13]
benefits will extend throughout
[21:14]
the corridor. I believe you MAY
[21:15]
be able to answer. I can answer
[21:17]
that. I was looking to see if
[21:19]
you wanted me to. Well, the
[21:20]
goal is to have it state funded
[21:22]
from after this pilot project,
[21:23]
which is it was in the
[21:24]
statewide rail plan to have
[21:26]
this route start, but we're
[21:28]
starting it a year early. So
[21:30]
we're providing subsidy at this
[21:32]
time to get it started. But
[21:33]
ultimately, it's hoped that it
[21:35]
will be covered by the
[21:37]
statewide budget for rail from
[21:39]
San Luis Obispo all the way to
[21:40]
San Diego. So that's the goal.
[21:43]
But you're right. If that is
[21:44]
not achieved, then we'll be
[21:46]
looking at other agencies,
[21:47]
possibly participating. If we
[21:49]
wanted to continue with this
[21:51]
service at at subsidizing it
[21:52]
with our local dollars. But we
[21:53]
would have to answer that
[21:56]
question probably six months
[21:57]
before the end of the pilot
[22:01]
project. So yes. Thank you.
[22:03]
Director Brown. In that same in
[22:06]
that same fashion, do you have
[22:09]
any partnerships established or
[22:12]
proposed with employers that
[22:15]
would benefit from this? Yes.
[22:16]
I'm very excited to talk about
[22:18]
those opportunities. We
[22:19]
recognize that the train won't
[22:21]
be a success without that last
[22:23]
first mile, last mile options.
[22:24]
So the things that we're
[22:25]
looking to complement the
[22:27]
service are free shuttles to
[22:28]
and from the train station to
[22:31]
employer sites, bicycle lockers
[22:33]
at Carpinteria, Santa Barbara
[22:36]
and Goleta, and bicycle trials,
[22:37]
the bike share system in
[22:39]
downtown Santa Barbara. And
[22:40]
then as part of getting the
[22:42]
word out about the train and
[22:43]
all these complimentary
[22:44]
programs, we're looking to host
[22:46]
an employer forum and really
[22:47]
engage and really lean on those
[22:48]
strong relationships that we
[22:50]
have with employers throughout
[22:52]
the South Coast. So, yes,
[22:54]
working with large employers is
[22:56]
one of our largest outreach
[23:00]
efforts. Yeah, it looks like we
[23:01]
have a few more questions
[23:04]
possibly. Or. Oh, okay. Perfect.
[23:07]
Vice chair. Vice chair. Silver.
[23:10]
Yes. Director. Caps. I just
[23:11]
wanted to build on Director
[23:12]
Brown's question because that
[23:14]
that was my nature of questions
[23:17]
to just again, I applaud the
[23:19]
pivot from the original or the
[23:21]
first plan to this plan. And I
[23:22]
know that the original plan had
[23:23]
a lot of outreach with
[23:25]
employers, and I just am
[23:28]
wanting to hear a bit more on
[23:30]
the assurances with the, the
[23:32]
the change in sort of this plan
[23:35]
b of those communications. It
[23:36]
sounds like they're happening.
[23:37]
I just want to hear that
[23:39]
fleshed out a bit more to make
[23:40]
sure that passengers get on
[23:44]
these trains. Yes, 100%. It is
[23:45]
the same outreach. If not, it's
[23:48]
been expanded. There is some
[23:50]
simplicity in this being a low
[23:51]
San Amtrak Pacific Surfliner
[23:53]
train. Before we are looking at
[23:55]
Metrolink in the morning,
[23:56]
Amtrak in the afternoon. How do
[23:58]
we message this to commuters?
[24:00]
This is a lot more digestible
[24:01]
for commuters, and we're
[24:03]
planning a large employer forum
[24:05]
where we will invite all the
[24:06]
employers that we have these
[24:08]
relationships with to really
[24:10]
highlight the benefits of
[24:11]
making this a possibility for
[24:14]
their employees. We have
[24:15]
numerous email lists that we
[24:17]
will lean on. We're also
[24:21]
developing a program to give
[24:25]
$50 train ride passes to
[24:26]
employees. And then as they use
[24:27]
them, they have the potential
[24:30]
to earn additional ones. So yes,
[24:31]
we are working with employers
[24:33]
throughout the South Coast.
[24:34]
We're planning a lot of
[24:36]
outreach events, and I'll let
[24:38]
Lauren speak to any others that
[24:39]
we're planning on. When you
[24:41]
talk about the ctc effort,
[24:42]
which we didn't have in the
[24:44]
last. Yeah. Go ahead. Yes.
[24:47]
We're excited with ctc being
[24:48]
such a valuable partner and
[24:50]
being even more engaged this
[24:51]
time around. We're looking at a
[24:53]
lot of events in Ventura County.
[24:55]
In previous years, a lot of our
[24:56]
efforts focused on Santa
[24:57]
Barbara. But of course the
[24:58]
commuters live in Ventura and
[25:00]
they work here. And so Ventura
[25:01]
County is planning on
[25:03]
presenting at all their boards,
[25:04]
all their commissions, getting
[25:05]
out in the farmers markets,
[25:07]
meeting with all their
[25:09]
employers so that we're not
[25:10]
just targeting the employers
[25:11]
here in Santa Barbara and then
[25:13]
relying on them to pass the
[25:14]
word on. We're really working
[25:17]
with ctc to reach the people in
[25:18]
Ventura County that can most
[25:22]
benefit from this train. Yes,
[25:24]
please. Lauren, I just wanted
[25:26]
to add just one more thing is
[25:27]
that it's a coordinated
[25:29]
marketing and outreach effort.
[25:31]
So it's Lausanne, sb, cg, and
[25:33]
ctc all working together to
[25:35]
work on shared resources both
[25:37]
with our collateral materials
[25:40]
as well as our outreach. And so
[25:42]
those are regular meetings that
[25:44]
we are having and instituting.
[25:46]
And yes, it is a similar
[25:48]
marketing effort that we had
[25:49]
planned with the previous
[25:51]
service that we're just kind of
[25:53]
working with this better and
[25:56]
more commuter friendly
[26:00]
opportunity. Director Hartman,
[26:01]
last time we did this, that is
[26:03]
when we had first inaugurated
[26:05]
the train. One of the key
[26:07]
concerns was reliability. Would
[26:09]
it be on time? And we worked
[26:11]
hard to get a bus to pick up
[26:13]
the slack when the train wasn't
[26:15]
there. What do we anticipate
[26:17]
this go around? Yes, we
[26:20]
recognize that that was one of
[26:21]
the largest barriers to the
[26:23]
train that launched in 2018 was
[26:25]
its reliability with this
[26:26]
service. Yes, it does still
[26:28]
begin in Los Angeles Union
[26:29]
Station. But not only is this
[26:31]
service an hour later coming in
[26:34]
the train surrounding it on the
[26:35]
corridor have also adjusted.
[26:38]
Before, there was a lot of
[26:39]
negotiations that had to happen
[26:41]
with freight service, but Union
[26:42]
Pacific has adjusted their
[26:44]
freight schedules. All the host
[26:46]
schedules on the corridor have
[26:47]
adjusted so that we are
[26:48]
anticipating significantly
[26:50]
higher reliability. With this
[26:51]
morning train coming in the
[26:53]
spring. So that will be
[26:55]
something I think key to
[26:58]
communicate. Yes. And that will
[27:01]
be part of one of our hopeful
[27:02]
audiences, of course, are those
[27:03]
that really love the 2018 train
[27:05]
but stopped because of
[27:06]
reliability. And we know that
[27:07]
question will come up and we
[27:09]
have the assurances from all
[27:10]
the host railroads that this
[27:12]
one will be significantly more
[27:15]
reliable. Right before going to
[27:17]
public comment, I want to check
[27:18]
and make sure there's no one
[27:20]
Santa Barbara with any further
[27:22]
questions. Okay. Do we have any
[27:23]
public comment on this item?
[27:24]
There are any members of the
[27:26]
public on the zoom webinar who
[27:28]
wish to speak. Would you please
[27:29]
use the raise Hand feature and
[27:33]
I will call upon you? We did
[27:35]
not receive any public comment
[27:37]
for this item in advance, and
[27:38]
there are no attendees on zoom
[27:40]
who wish to speak. All right.
[27:41]
We'll bring it back to the
[27:42]
board for discussion and a
[27:46]
possible motion. Chair. Vice
[27:49]
chair Silva, this is pretty
[27:51]
high. When you're ready for the
[27:54]
motion, I. I'd be honored to to
[27:56]
make that motion since I sit on
[27:58]
the Lausanne board and I tried
[28:02]
to make that motion when the
[28:03]
whole board was present. And I
[28:05]
will tell you, they're all very
[28:06]
enthusiastic about this service,
[28:08]
and and I missed my chance. I
[28:11]
guess I was, too, to slow in
[28:13]
raising my hand. So. Well, then
[28:15]
we'll do a very slow, dramatic
[28:16]
pause so you can make the
[28:18]
motion at this time for you.
[28:19]
Director Paradiso, would you
[28:20]
like to make the motion? I
[28:23]
would thank you and Hartman
[28:25]
seconds. And I just want to say,
[28:26]
I thought that was a really
[28:29]
well done staff report. Yes.
[28:30]
Great. If we could have a roll
[28:34]
call. Vote director. Perotti, I
[28:36]
director Patino. I director
[28:40]
Mosby. Director. Lee I director
[28:43]
Lavagnino. Director. Julien.
[28:45]
Director. Hartman I director
[28:49]
Friedman. I director. Clark. I
[28:52]
director. Capps I director.
[28:55]
Brown. I vice chair. Silva I
[28:57]
and chair. Nelson. Absent
[28:59]
motion passes. Yes. Thank you
[29:00]
to the staff for that
[29:01]
presentation. And thank you to
[29:02]
Director Perotti for making the
[29:03]
motion and making sure that's
[29:05]
on the record for that. I look
[29:06]
forward to us all becoming
[29:08]
ambassadors for the train to
[29:09]
make sure that we get people on
[29:11]
to that. Moving on. We'll move
[29:13]
to item b now and our staff
[29:14]
presentation. Oh I'm sorry.
[29:15]
Read into the record item five
[29:16]
b please. Sustainable community
[29:17]
strategy planning process and
[29:18]
potential reform update
[29:20]
recommended action. Receive a
[29:21]
presentation on the planning
[29:22]
process for the Sustainable
[29:24]
Community Strategy and the
[29:25]
current efforts to reform the
[29:27]
associated law. All right.
[29:28]
Thank you very much, MR. Becker.
[29:30]
All right. Thank you, chair and
[29:31]
directors. I'm Mike Becker of
[29:33]
Staff. And this morning I'm
[29:35]
going to provide a presentation
[29:37]
on Senate Bill 375, which is
[29:39]
the Sustainable Communities and
[29:40]
Climate Protection Act and how
[29:47]
that impacts sb. In 2006,
[29:49]
Governor Schwarzenegger signed
[29:51]
Assembly Bill 32, the Global
[29:53]
Warming Solutions Act, and ab
[29:56]
32 changed California and began
[29:57]
a coordinated effort to reduce
[29:59]
greenhouse gas emissions across
[30:01]
all sectors. Senate Bill 375,
[30:05]
or sb 375, followed the visible
[30:08]
or tangible part of sb 375 is
[30:09]
the Sustainable Community
[30:11]
Strategy, which is included
[30:13]
within each regional
[30:14]
transportation plan. Today,
[30:16]
I'll touch on why the law
[30:17]
matters, how it impacts our
[30:19]
region, and reform efforts that
[30:23]
are underway across the state.
[30:25]
So, onto why it matters. The
[30:28]
original intent of sb 375 was
[30:29]
good, though whether or not it
[30:32]
has achieved its objectives
[30:34]
remains to be seen. And this
[30:35]
matters to you for a variety of
[30:37]
reasons. When the law first
[30:39]
passed, there was no tie to
[30:40]
funding. That changed with
[30:42]
Senate Bill one, which now
[30:43]
requires a compliant,
[30:44]
sustainable community strategy
[30:46]
to be eligible for certain
[30:48]
funding programs. In addition,
[30:50]
there's ties between sb 375 and
[30:56]
Rina, sb 375 and Sequa. There
[30:59]
are good aspects of the
[31:01]
requirements related to sb 375,
[31:03]
including planning, land use
[31:05]
and transportation in tandem,
[31:06]
though this is good practice
[31:12]
with or without that law. I
[31:14]
mentioned that ab 32 became law
[31:18]
in 2006. Ab 32 focused on
[31:19]
reducing greenhouse gas
[31:23]
emissions across all sectors.
[31:25]
Sb 375 was passed in 2008, two
[31:27]
years later, with a focus on
[31:29]
light duty vehicles, so to
[31:31]
reduce greenhouse gas emissions
[31:33]
from light duty vehicles, which
[31:35]
I describe as the types of cars
[31:37]
or trucks that you or I would
[31:40]
drive. Therefore, sb 375
[31:43]
implements one component or one
[31:46]
aspect of the much broader ab
[31:50]
32. The California Air
[31:53]
Resources Board, by the powers
[31:55]
given to them by sb 375, sets
[31:57]
greenhouse gas emission
[31:58]
reduction targets for each
[32:01]
region in California. For sb kg,
[32:04]
our current target is 17% below
[32:07]
2005 levels for target year
[32:09]
2035, and that is on a per
[32:12]
capita basis. The target is
[32:15]
achieved or not through a
[32:16]
combination of laying out land
[32:17]
use development patterns, as
[32:19]
well as the transportation
[32:20]
projects and policies included
[32:22]
within the Regional
[32:24]
Transportation plan. The per
[32:26]
capita point is important to
[32:29]
highlight for two reasons
[32:31]
primarily, but number one, as a
[32:33]
per capita target, greenhouse
[32:35]
gas emissions in theory could
[32:37]
rise in aggregate and the law
[32:40]
still be satisfied. And number
[32:43]
two, the per capita aspect
[32:44]
enables us to tackle it or
[32:46]
address it from two different
[32:48]
angles. First, we have an
[32:51]
existing population that lives
[32:52]
in existing land use,
[32:53]
development patterns and so
[32:55]
forth that we can try to
[32:57]
influence their travel
[32:59]
behaviors to a more sustainable
[33:01]
manner. So that's one way to
[33:02]
address the law. The other is
[33:04]
to focus on the growing aspect
[33:07]
of the region. As we grow, we
[33:08]
can grow more sustainably so
[33:10]
that that new population has
[33:12]
less of a transportation impact
[33:13]
compared to the existing
[33:17]
population. The law requires us,
[33:20]
sb, cag to lay out a variety of
[33:22]
scenarios, and those are
[33:23]
combinations of land use
[33:24]
development patterns as well as
[33:27]
the transportation projects and
[33:30]
policies. We take that through
[33:31]
a public process. And
[33:32]
ultimately, this board selects
[33:34]
the scenario that is included
[33:35]
within the Sustainable
[33:37]
Community Strategy. And the
[33:38]
Regional Transportation plan is
[33:40]
built around. You can expect to
[33:44]
do that next in 2028. For our
[33:50]
2029 plan. This is what a jobs
[33:51]
housing imbalance looks like on
[33:53]
a chart. A few long commutes
[33:55]
can outweigh almost all of the
[33:59]
short ones. The dark bars are
[34:01]
the share of commuters by the
[34:03]
distance buckets on the bottom.
[34:05]
So the far left is, you can see
[34:07]
less than a half mile commute.
[34:09]
And then the lighter bars are
[34:12]
the the resulting vehicle miles
[34:16]
from that population. The left
[34:17]
side of the chart shows we're
[34:19]
doing a great job in terms with
[34:20]
a lot of our population. They
[34:22]
have short commutes, MAY use
[34:23]
alternative modes of travel,
[34:25]
and have little transportation
[34:27]
impact. The right side shows
[34:30]
the imbalance. When we have a
[34:31]
portion of our workforce that
[34:34]
we need to import, or that have
[34:36]
very long commutes, it makes it
[34:40]
much more difficult to address
[34:43]
the requirements of sb 375. You
[34:45]
have the 5% associated with
[34:48]
that longest commuting cohort
[34:49]
is produces the same vehicle
[34:52]
miles as the 86% that's
[34:53]
included within all but the
[34:55]
last two bars. So just that
[34:57]
final bar equals 86% of the
[35:04]
commuting population. Through
[35:06]
our experience, we've developed
[35:07]
for sustainable community
[35:09]
strategies since the law came
[35:10]
into effect. And we found that
[35:12]
we cannot achieve the
[35:15]
requirements of sb 375 without
[35:16]
addressing the jobs housing
[35:18]
imbalance. The bars on the
[35:20]
right are there for a variety
[35:21]
of reasons, including the lack
[35:23]
and unaffordability of housing.
[35:25]
A friend of mine was a founder
[35:26]
of a tech company in Goleta,
[35:28]
and conversations with him,
[35:30]
I've learned that that company,
[35:31]
as well as other companies are
[35:33]
founded here, begin to grow
[35:34]
here, but then forced to grow
[35:35]
elsewhere, which then exports
[35:39]
the economic benefit. I do want
[35:42]
to transition to some of the
[35:42]
challenges that are related
[35:46]
with Senate Bill 375. They're
[35:47]
divided into four categories
[35:50]
land use, economics and
[35:52]
politics, population, jobs and
[35:54]
housing. And then finally,
[36:00]
recognizing that change is slow.
[36:01]
Where people live, work and
[36:03]
play creates demands on the
[36:05]
transportation system. So
[36:06]
therefore land use is central
[36:08]
to understanding travel
[36:10]
patterns. The image on this
[36:12]
slide shows Levittown, which is
[36:14]
among the first postwar suburbs
[36:16]
in the United States. And since
[36:18]
that was built, we've had about
[36:19]
75 years of building in similar
[36:22]
manner. And the vast majority
[36:23]
of that housing stock still
[36:25]
exists. That type of growth is
[36:28]
not conducive to successful
[36:30]
transit services. It separates
[36:32]
all land uses, so every trip
[36:34]
requires a vehicle and so on.
[36:35]
But the point is, is we have a
[36:37]
built environment that produces
[36:40]
travel behaviors that are very
[36:43]
difficult to change. And I will
[36:45]
point out that sb 375 requires
[36:47]
us to lay out a land use
[36:48]
development pattern for the
[36:50]
region. However, sb 375
[36:52]
explicitly gave us no land use
[36:58]
authority. When economic
[36:59]
development and housing
[37:00]
development do not keep pace
[37:03]
with one another, problems are
[37:04]
created in our region. That
[37:06]
problem is a jobs housing
[37:07]
imbalance. The point that I
[37:09]
want to make with this slide is
[37:11]
on the lower left, and this is
[37:12]
related to how I described.
[37:13]
There's two ways to addressing
[37:15]
it, either through changing
[37:17]
travel patterns or travel
[37:20]
behaviors, or by growing in a
[37:22]
more sustainable manner. Last
[37:24]
week at the subregional, we
[37:26]
presented the draft Regional
[37:28]
Growth forecast and region wide
[37:30]
or county wide. We expect the
[37:32]
population to grow by about 10%
[37:37]
out to 2060. If you said all of
[37:39]
that new growth had just half
[37:40]
of the transportation impact of
[37:42]
the existing population, that
[37:43]
would only reduce greenhouse
[37:45]
gas emissions, or vmt, which is
[37:48]
the proxy by about 2.8%, our
[37:58]
target 17%. Yeah. And it really
[37:59]
highlights that it puts us in
[38:02]
this difficult situation where
[38:05]
it's we're challenged to change
[38:07]
existing travel behaviors while
[38:08]
also not being able to rely
[38:10]
heavily on new growth to bring
[38:14]
down the per capita aspect.
[38:15]
When you walk out of your front
[38:17]
door and go somewhere, there's
[38:18]
a high likelihood that you're
[38:20]
either going to spend money or
[38:21]
going to make money. And by
[38:23]
definition, that is economic
[38:26]
activity. Economic activity is
[38:28]
directly related to travel. And
[38:31]
sb 375 asks us to push back
[38:33]
against that a little bit. The
[38:35]
cost of travel MAY affect
[38:37]
travel behaviors. Californians
[38:39]
pay about 150% of the national
[38:42]
average for gasoline. Yet the
[38:44]
last time I was in Los Angeles,
[38:47]
the 405 was still packed. There
[38:49]
are when they're not convenient
[38:50]
and easy alternatives, people
[38:53]
will choose what works for them.
[38:54]
And I highlight, prior to
[38:56]
coming to sb kg in 2014, I
[38:57]
worked for about eight years
[38:59]
for the mpo in the Philadelphia
[39:01]
region. I think I drove to work
[39:03]
twice. I would walk to the
[39:05]
train station, ride the train
[39:08]
to the city, walk to my office.
[39:10]
What was different? It was
[39:11]
quicker to take the train and
[39:13]
it was cheaper because I didn't
[39:16]
have to pay $20 a day to park a
[39:19]
car in the center city, but it
[39:21]
just highlights that transit
[39:23]
can be effective when the
[39:26]
conditions align. But really,
[39:28]
the point that I want to make,
[39:30]
there's a lot that goes into
[39:32]
defining the behaviors of the
[39:33]
traveling public that do not
[39:35]
come to this board for a
[39:38]
decision yet sb 375 kind of
[39:40]
holds us to account for those
[39:41]
decisions, or the lack of
[39:47]
decisions. Okay, so sb 375 asks
[39:49]
us to reduce greenhouse gas
[39:50]
emissions from light duty
[39:52]
vehicles by 2035. The good news
[39:54]
is, is the transportation
[39:55]
projects that we have in the
[39:56]
land use developments in the
[39:58]
region can bend the curve. The
[40:00]
bad news is that doesn't happen
[40:02]
overnight. A couple of
[40:03]
rhetorical questions. Director
[40:05]
Friedman. There are two Macy's
[40:06]
sites in the city of Santa
[40:07]
Barbara with significant
[40:09]
housing developments proposed.
[40:11]
It was three and a half years
[40:12]
ago that actually right here in
[40:13]
this room, we were talking
[40:15]
about a specific plan for one
[40:16]
of them. When will the
[40:18]
residents move in? Director
[40:20]
Hartman, how long have we been
[40:21]
trying to get a trail across
[40:23]
the Santa Ynez Valley? Director
[40:25]
Patino. The city of Santa Maria
[40:27]
is redeveloping its downtown.
[40:29]
When will that be complete?
[40:31]
It's. We are making progress.
[40:33]
But these things are slow. The
[40:35]
101 is almost done. It was
[40:37]
about 20 years ago that the
[40:39]
first shovel went into the
[40:42]
ground. So we are doing a good
[40:44]
job of advancing the projects
[40:46]
that support more sustainable
[40:47]
travel and travel behaviors.
[40:49]
But they do not happen as fast
[40:53]
as sb 375 wants. And one other
[40:55]
point on this slide that I'd
[40:57]
like to make is a lot of the
[40:58]
major transportation projects
[41:00]
that we advance and the ones
[41:02]
that are supportive of
[41:04]
sustainable travel require the
[41:06]
use of competitive grant funds.
[41:08]
Those funding programs are
[41:10]
extremely oversubscribed. And,
[41:11]
for example, the state's active
[41:13]
transportation program has
[41:20]
roughly a 20% success rate. So
[41:23]
Ab32 became law in 2006. Sb 32
[41:24]
followed in 2008, and since
[41:26]
then there's been a variety of
[41:27]
other laws and regulations that
[41:29]
came on line that are trying to
[41:31]
achieve the same objectives as
[41:34]
sb 375, and they define how we
[41:37]
plan regionally with or without
[41:41]
sb 375. For one, the arena
[41:43]
process, how we allocate
[41:45]
housing across the region has a
[41:47]
series of five statutory
[41:48]
objectives that we must follow.
[41:51]
We're required to follow,
[41:52]
however, they're aligned with
[41:55]
sb 375. So we would be
[41:57]
allocating consistent with this
[41:59]
law with or without the law.
[42:01]
Senate Bill 743 changed the
[42:03]
California Environmental
[42:04]
Quality Act, the transportation
[42:06]
impact aspect of it, to align
[42:10]
it with Senate Bill 375. The
[42:12]
state was trying to reduce
[42:14]
greenhouse gas emissions by
[42:15]
electrifying the vehicle fleet
[42:17]
that's currently on hold. But
[42:19]
ultimately, it would negate
[42:21]
Senate Bill 375. And finally,
[42:24]
by way of executive orders, the
[42:26]
state has the Climate Action
[42:27]
Plan for transportation
[42:29]
infrastructure as well as
[42:31]
Caltrans System Investment
[42:33]
Strategy, which essentially
[42:34]
focused transportation
[42:35]
investments consistent with
[42:38]
Senate Bill 375. And all these
[42:40]
things would happen with or
[42:45]
without that law. So on to
[42:49]
reform. When Senate Bill 375
[42:50]
first became law, there were
[42:54]
two target years 2020 and 2035.
[42:56]
2020 is in the past, 2035 is
[42:58]
not too far away for a variety
[43:00]
of other challenges. There are
[43:01]
efforts across the state to
[43:04]
reform the law. First, sb, kg
[43:06]
partnered with the San Luis
[43:07]
Obispo Council of Governments,
[43:10]
or sacog the staff there to
[43:12]
write a white paper which was
[43:13]
attached to your staff report.
[43:15]
The paper lays out many of the
[43:17]
issues I spoke of and lays out,
[43:18]
or suggests a better way
[43:20]
forward, but what does that
[43:21]
better way forward look like?
[43:22]
Essentially, it's moving from
[43:24]
an idealistic law to a
[43:29]
pragmatic law. We suggest that
[43:30]
targets should consider
[43:32]
expected population growth
[43:32]
because, as I mentioned,
[43:34]
there's two ways to address the
[43:37]
greenhouse gas emissions. We
[43:39]
would like to keep the focus on
[43:41]
the decisions that this board
[43:43]
has authority to make, and not
[43:44]
hold us to account for
[43:45]
decisions that this board
[43:48]
doesn't make. In addition, the
[43:50]
state should provide the level
[43:51]
of funding necessary to
[43:54]
implement a state law and to
[43:56]
reduce the heavily, heavily
[43:57]
quantitative aspects of the law
[44:01]
to get more into a softer
[44:03]
analysis, and finally, to
[44:04]
improve the required
[44:05]
collaboration with the
[44:07]
California Air Resources Board.
[44:08]
So that's the white paper which
[44:11]
is attached. There's also
[44:15]
another effort across the state.
[44:19]
So the largest four MPOs in the
[44:22]
state came together to develop
[44:24]
a draft proposal. The draft
[44:25]
proposal does share some
[44:27]
similarities to ours, and much
[44:29]
of it would be a benefit. I
[44:30]
don't want to say the whole
[44:33]
thing would, but much of it
[44:36]
would be an improvement. They
[44:38]
want to focus more on
[44:39]
implementation. They would like
[44:40]
to move from a four year to
[44:44]
eight year cycle, and another
[44:45]
important component is they
[44:47]
want MPOs to be able to take
[44:49]
credit for all things that
[44:50]
reduce greenhouse gas emissions
[44:52]
from light duty vehicles. For
[44:53]
instance, we get zero credit
[44:54]
for the electrification of the
[44:58]
vehicle fleet, which by itself
[45:00]
is extremely effective at
[45:01]
reducing greenhouse gas
[45:05]
emissions. So that's the big
[45:07]
four proposal. So the next
[45:08]
steps in a minute you'll hear
[45:11]
from Gus Corey and see that sb
[45:13]
375 is included in our draft
[45:14]
legislative platform. And Gus
[45:15]
MAY have other comments on the
[45:18]
law. We will keep you informed
[45:21]
of proposals, including if they
[45:22]
impact your city council or
[45:24]
Board of Supervisors role, and
[45:25]
when there are concrete
[45:26]
proposals, we will return to
[45:29]
seek your direction on how to
[45:31]
address those or to try and
[45:33]
influence those. With that, I'm
[45:36]
happy to take any questions.
[45:37]
All right. Do we have any
[45:39]
questions from director,
[45:40]
director Brown? Director
[45:44]
Hartman, go first. Thank you
[45:46]
for it's good report, but I
[45:50]
find that some of the I think
[45:53]
we skew the the statistics
[45:55]
significantly. Solvang.
[45:59]
Particularly with where we have
[46:00]
almost everybody coming in
[46:02]
through we have over a million
[46:04]
visitors a year. And I promise
[46:06]
you, most of them are spending
[46:07]
more than an hour on the road
[46:10]
to get there, but they're not
[46:14]
part of our population or per
[46:17]
capita, I guess. So I'm seeing
[46:20]
skews in that way. If I
[46:23]
understand your statistical
[46:25]
model correctly. Right. Good
[46:27]
question, Director Brown. So
[46:29]
the the chart that I showed was
[46:31]
focused just on the journey to
[46:32]
work. But we are responsible
[46:35]
for most travel is included
[46:39]
within the umbrella of sb 375.
[46:42]
There are differences and I
[46:45]
can't speak completely on
[46:47]
whether or not the trip starts
[46:48]
outside of our region or it
[46:49]
just passes through our region.
[46:50]
Like for instance, if somebody
[46:52]
was coming up from Los Angeles
[46:54]
to go visit Solvang, we would
[46:56]
probably only be taking credit
[46:58]
for from the county line of
[46:59]
Carpinteria up to Solvang in
[47:02]
terms of the miles. But yes, I
[47:03]
hear you. And that's actually
[47:06]
an interesting point, is if you
[47:07]
have this law, that's a state
[47:10]
law that's asking people to
[47:11]
essentially trying to get
[47:14]
people to drive less. Yet, you
[47:16]
know, we still very actively
[47:18]
promote tourism and so forth
[47:20]
that encourages people to drive
[47:24]
more. And it's not just solving,
[47:25]
it's also the casino and many
[47:29]
other entities that are
[47:31]
inviting Santa Barbara. So if
[47:33]
those if the tourism to the
[47:35]
city of Solvang, the casino or
[47:36]
wherever else the tourists are
[47:38]
going in Santa Barbara County
[47:39]
continues to grow, it just
[47:41]
makes our challenge even harder
[47:42]
because we're focused on a per
[47:44]
capita basis, so that the total
[47:45]
number of miles is divided by
[47:47]
the population. Population
[47:49]
stays stagnant and the miles
[47:52]
grows. So your your proposed
[47:53]
solution is a modification of
[47:58]
sb 375. Sb 375 is going to
[47:59]
change whether we influence it
[48:01]
or not. There's enough motion
[48:03]
behind it that it's it's going
[48:04]
to change probably in the
[48:05]
current legislative session.
[48:07]
Gus can add more to that, but
[48:09]
there's a variety of things we
[48:12]
want to do. Like, for instance,
[48:14]
there's a lot that impacts
[48:16]
travel behavior like tourism,
[48:18]
that there's no question that
[48:19]
ever comes to the board that
[48:22]
says yes or no. It's happening
[48:24]
outside of the purview of sb,
[48:26]
kg, yet we are the ones
[48:27]
responsible for it. So to kind
[48:29]
of focus it more on what this
[48:32]
board controls rather than
[48:35]
travel behavior in general. And
[48:37]
the same goes for land use that
[48:40]
we lay out a regional land use
[48:42]
development pattern. We have no
[48:43]
land use authority. The cities
[48:45]
and the county can do what they
[48:48]
please. Yet we're kind of held
[48:49]
to account for if it doesn't
[48:53]
happen. Through the chair.
[48:55]
Director Brown, I think the
[48:56]
point that we're trying to make
[48:59]
is sb, cag has been doing the
[49:02]
the spirit of 375 for the last
[49:03]
20 years. I mean, the one on
[49:06]
one is an hov lane. We've been
[49:07]
promoting bicycle, we've been
[49:09]
promoting regional transit. So
[49:11]
we're doing 375 regardless of
[49:15]
the law. If the law is making
[49:18]
it a challenge for for me as an
[49:19]
executive director of this
[49:21]
agency, of being able to
[49:23]
continue to do those good
[49:25]
things when if we don't meet
[49:27]
the target, I, we as an agency
[49:29]
MAY get punished and not be
[49:31]
eligible for funding at the
[49:32]
state level because of it. And
[49:35]
that's a problem when when as a
[49:37]
region, you know, we're not
[49:38]
growing. So that per capita,
[49:41]
the the delta of that change is
[49:44]
mathematically impossible to
[49:45]
achieve the 17% reduction
[49:47]
because we're not growing
[49:51]
enough. Yeah. So it it's a it's
[49:55]
a it's a conundrum. Right. So
[49:57]
so my goal here is to make the
[50:00]
law the spirit of the law,
[50:02]
which was good to balance
[50:04]
transportation and housing and
[50:06]
funding in one document, which
[50:09]
is good, but not punish people
[50:12]
for not because we have other
[50:13]
goals. Reducing greenhouse
[50:15]
gases is not your only goal of
[50:17]
this agency. It's providing
[50:19]
transportation for the
[50:20]
traveling public. It's really
[50:23]
our goal. So again, I'm trying
[50:24]
to I know we didn't get it
[50:26]
really into the nitty gritty.
[50:27]
And you don't want to because
[50:29]
this is a very bureaucratic law.
[50:32]
It's from my perspective. And
[50:34]
working with it is very
[50:36]
challenging to achieve the
[50:38]
goals like we just achieved. In
[50:40]
your last item of getting a
[50:42]
train started, you know, it's
[50:44]
it's not it's not helping the
[50:46]
cause. It MAY be hurting our
[50:49]
cause. These are unintended
[50:52]
consequences. And our
[50:53]
accountability is it doesn't
[50:56]
reflect our engagement. Correct.
[50:58]
And this bill MAY make sense in
[50:59]
the larger areas where they
[51:00]
have more tools and more growth
[51:03]
and more or more incentives for
[51:05]
funding and funding different
[51:06]
things. It MAY make more sense
[51:08]
in the bigger areas, but for a
[51:11]
rural county like ours or
[51:12]
semi-rural, it, it's not
[51:15]
working. So somebody has to say,
[51:17]
time out here, we need to do
[51:18]
something different. And this
[51:19]
is our our communication of
[51:21]
that. Thank you, Director
[51:24]
Hartman. Yeah. Listening to you,
[51:27]
i mean, it's hard to think of a
[51:31]
regional agency in the county
[51:32]
that could pull the various
[51:36]
entities together. So. So if
[51:38]
you don't do it here, you know,
[51:39]
where would you do it? That's.
[51:42]
I think that is the conundrum.
[51:43]
I just wanted to ask for the
[51:49]
regional land use development.
[51:51]
Pattern. If you're working with
[51:54]
Lafco. Lafco just got a major
[51:57]
grant from the sustainable
[51:58]
agricultural community, and
[52:00]
they have a process to try to
[52:03]
figure out where where should
[52:06]
growth occur around cities and
[52:09]
where not because of
[52:12]
environmental or other reasons.
[52:14]
So I just wanted to make sure
[52:16]
that, you know, it's important
[52:19]
that we collaborate and have
[52:20]
consistency to the extent that
[52:23]
we can. So that's the other
[52:25]
regional entity that's trying
[52:27]
to struggle with this, and I
[52:29]
did. That's actually exciting
[52:30]
to hear that they got their
[52:31]
grant because I did contribute
[52:32]
to their application. And I
[52:34]
when I did, I mentioned if you
[52:36]
get funded please include me in
[52:39]
your. Okay. Well, those of us
[52:40]
who serve on the board,
[52:41]
Director Nelson and I and
[52:44]
Director Patino will carry that
[52:46]
message back. But you know now
[52:53]
to thank you, Director Mosby.
[52:56]
As an alternate here. I think
[52:58]
you did. You guys did a great
[53:00]
job with arena. And I think the
[53:02]
complexity of arena is it just
[53:04]
sticks on that top circular
[53:07]
layer. And this is a spiraling
[53:08]
tornado. So it goes down
[53:10]
historically through time. And
[53:12]
what you're focused on housing,
[53:13]
you're missing one of the
[53:15]
aspects of the jobs housing
[53:17]
imbalance. And that's the jobs.
[53:20]
So as an example in the
[53:21]
community of Lompoc, what has
[53:24]
happened? Well, land is zoned
[53:25]
pcd, planned commercial
[53:26]
development going to housing,
[53:29]
land zoned ppe, going to
[53:31]
housing. We have
[53:32]
recommendations for churches to
[53:35]
be torn down for housing,
[53:36]
restaurants torn down for
[53:38]
housing, other social halls
[53:41]
converting to housing. And the
[53:43]
complexity is, is, is people at
[53:44]
the higher level who don't live
[53:46]
in the community, who don't
[53:48]
understand the community, are
[53:49]
making decisions for the
[53:51]
community. You know, somehow
[53:53]
the agricultural protectionism
[53:54]
has gotten to the point that
[53:57]
that housing is an endangered
[53:59]
species. Broccoli isn't, but
[54:01]
broccoli is treated more
[54:02]
importantly than than quality
[54:05]
housing for the people. But at
[54:06]
Multilayers it goes down.
[54:10]
People say, well, exasperating
[54:11]
those mileage aspects of it is
[54:13]
the community of Lompoc. You
[54:15]
know, we're over 10,000 people
[54:17]
leave the town all the time to
[54:18]
go find a job. I think it's
[54:20]
well over 60% of the people. If
[54:22]
you have a job, you commute for
[54:25]
that job. So you said it's it's
[54:26]
difficult for you to get to
[54:28]
that answer. We can't get there.
[54:30]
But I think it's important,
[54:32]
which I get chastised for, for
[54:33]
bringing up historical
[54:35]
components and how we got where
[54:37]
we are. And it's understand the
[54:38]
balance that you have to have
[54:40]
to get through, but it needs to
[54:42]
be based on not just the top
[54:43]
layer. And I'll give you an
[54:45]
example. In one step, the
[54:47]
county eliminated 7642 home
[54:50]
sites around the city of Lompoc,
[54:52]
eliminated 292 acres of light
[54:54]
industrial and commercial
[54:55]
properties around Lompoc. And
[54:57]
all of a sudden, you wonder why
[54:59]
a town can't feed itself. And
[55:00]
then you get way overly complex
[55:02]
and long term plans that were
[55:04]
this bp zoned land that was
[55:07]
going to bring jobs. But now
[55:08]
we're going to build housing
[55:10]
and we're going to be the
[55:11]
solution. I've been told by
[55:12]
South County people they would
[55:13]
support workforce housing for
[55:15]
us. What does that exacerbate
[55:17]
the jobs if it's workforce
[55:19]
designed for South County? Now
[55:21]
the complexity is we don't
[55:22]
necessarily get to harvest all
[55:24]
the jobs that are at the base,
[55:25]
which hits the 135 out here.
[55:27]
You go out here and there's an
[55:28]
hour wait because we haven't
[55:30]
built it. Last year we built
[55:32]
zero homes. Year before that,
[55:34]
we built two homes. We built a
[55:36]
built a number of low income
[55:38]
stuff. So you want to redirect
[55:40]
people who don't have jobs to a
[55:41]
community that doesn't have
[55:44]
jobs. And then you thus
[55:45]
exasperate. And it's the way
[55:47]
this has to be lifted up. You
[55:49]
know, we need to bring the jobs
[55:51]
as you guys did. Thank you for
[55:53]
the above moderate component so
[55:54]
we can try to bring that. And
[55:55]
this year we should be looking
[55:58]
at 350 houses built this year.
[56:00]
And we're directing that more
[56:01]
towards bringing the people
[56:03]
working at the base to the
[56:04]
community. But I think when you
[56:06]
guys mentioned the jobs housing
[56:07]
imbalance is also to look at
[56:09]
the job component, but also
[56:10]
historically, how did
[56:12]
communities get designed? If
[56:14]
you look at the 5859 general
[56:16]
plan maps and zoning maps of
[56:18]
the community, you'll see the
[56:19]
complexity that happened to the
[56:20]
community of Lompoc and the
[56:22]
Lompoc Valley. And I think I
[56:23]
brought it to you guys
[56:24]
attention before. But studies
[56:26]
from 1968 said Lompoc, by the
[56:29]
year 2020 would be 196,000
[56:32]
people. And you wonder what
[56:35]
happened. You wonder why we are
[56:37]
where we are and why you have
[56:38]
the conundrum of trying to
[56:39]
solve the problem. And it is
[56:41]
very complicated. And it can't
[56:42]
just be on a simple arena
[56:44]
without storing the deep
[56:45]
analytics of how we got where
[56:47]
we are. And you guys are doing
[56:51]
a great job, I get it, but
[56:52]
remember, it's it's like I said,
[56:54]
in the case of Lompoc, it's a
[56:57]
spiraling downward tornado. And
[56:59]
it's got us where it's a much
[57:01]
more complicated than. And I
[57:03]
think Director Levin brought
[57:04]
something up very important
[57:06]
about 6 or 7 years ago. And as
[57:09]
the success of Rina and we do
[57:11]
all this studies, do all these
[57:12]
analytics, we put something
[57:13]
together. And then what happens
[57:14]
now? This time the state's
[57:16]
trying to put a few more teeth
[57:17]
in it and change rules. But
[57:19]
these rules are going to
[57:21]
exacerbate the problem. They
[57:22]
really are that people can
[57:25]
blindly just, you know, convert
[57:27]
land how it wants to in such
[57:29]
the way they do, or the states
[57:30]
will mandate or they'll come in.
[57:33]
And, you know, in our case,
[57:34]
land, it was zoned bp is not
[57:36]
going to have 80 houses on
[57:40]
instead of 350 jobs. How do you
[57:44]
solve that? Yeah. Thank you.
[57:46]
Any questions down in Santa
[57:51]
Barbara for staff. Okay. I just
[57:54]
had one. I was just curious.
[57:55]
The only piece that I feel like
[57:57]
maybe is a blinder. Maybe this
[57:58]
isn't the appropriate place to
[57:59]
do it, but I was wondering.
[58:01]
There's no mention about kind
[58:02]
of the infrastructure support
[58:04]
that we can provide for, like
[58:05]
telecommuting, which I feel
[58:07]
like is a position that a lot
[58:08]
of solutions are available for
[58:09]
shrinking the vmt. I know that
[58:11]
I, you know, I'm on the high
[58:13]
chart. I drive more than 32
[58:14]
miles for my job when I go. And
[58:16]
so I just was wondering, is
[58:17]
there a means of advocacy about
[58:19]
counting a means of decreasing
[58:21]
vmt from providing the
[58:22]
infrastructure to provide more
[58:24]
tele telecommuting jobs
[58:24]
available? Is that something
[58:26]
that's available or that we can
[58:28]
advocate for? Yes, a very good
[58:30]
question. So we do take credit
[58:32]
for telecommuting and the
[58:33]
pandemic. One of the benefits
[58:35]
that came out of that is we see
[58:36]
much higher levels of
[58:38]
telecommuting post-pandemic.
[58:40]
And then on the sb side, what
[58:42]
can we do to promote that? Two
[58:43]
things. Number one, we have a
[58:45]
travel demand management
[58:46]
division, the multimodal
[58:48]
programs that works. And that's
[58:50]
Whitney to connect people with
[58:51]
sustainable modes of
[58:54]
transportation or things that
[58:58]
reduce trips. So therefore,
[59:01]
working at home and also
[59:02]
started with Margie and then
[59:04]
went through planning. And now
[59:05]
it's with project delivery as
[59:07]
the broadband aspect of trying
[59:08]
to build out a broadband
[59:10]
network that fully enables
[59:12]
remote work. Thank you,
[59:16]
Director Hartman. I think what
[59:19]
Director Moseby says is, is
[59:21]
really important. And I keep
[59:24]
thinking, what is sb k's role
[59:26]
in economic development and job
[59:31]
creation? And I wonder if one
[59:33]
thing we could do is invite
[59:35]
reach to make a presentation.
[59:37]
I'm not sure that all the
[59:39]
directors are are as involved
[59:41]
in that as some of us. And I
[59:45]
think they're looking both at
[59:48]
slo County and Santa Barbara
[59:50]
County as a whole. And and I
[59:54]
think it might at least
[59:56]
generate some, some new ideas.
[59:58]
So I would put that forward as
[1:00:02]
a recommendation. Okay. Any
[1:00:06]
further questions? Okay. Do we
[1:00:07]
have anyone else presenting on
[1:00:09]
this time. No. Next is the next
[1:00:11]
item okay. Is there any public
[1:00:13]
comment on this item? Are there
[1:00:14]
any members of the public on
[1:00:15]
the zoom webinar who wish to
[1:00:17]
speak? Would you please use the
[1:00:18]
raise Hand feature and I will
[1:00:21]
call upon you? We did not
[1:00:22]
receive any public comment for
[1:00:24]
this item in advance, and there
[1:00:26]
are no members of the public
[1:00:28]
who wish to speak. Okay. Seeing
[1:00:29]
no further comments from the
[1:00:31]
board, we'll go. This is just a
[1:00:32]
presentation only, no action.
[1:00:34]
So we will move on to item five.
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C could you please read that
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into the record item five c
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draft 2026 State and federal
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Legislative Platform
[1:00:42]
recommended actions one.
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Receive and file a report from
[1:00:46]
sb federal lobbyist Dawn
[1:00:48]
Gilchrist of Thomas Walters and
[1:00:49]
Associates, Inc. To receive and
[1:00:51]
file a report from sb state
[1:00:53]
lobbyist Gus Corey of Corey
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Consulting. Three approve sb
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Cags 2026 federal and state
[1:01:00]
legislative platforms and four
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authorize the sb Executive
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Director to execute any
[1:01:04]
necessary documentation to add
[1:01:06]
sb kg. As a signatory to the
[1:01:09]
California's federal Surface
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Transportation Reauthorization
[1:01:13]
Principles. Thank you very much.
[1:01:15]
Thank you, and good morning,
[1:01:17]
everyone. For the record, my
[1:01:19]
name is Lauren Bianchi, Clemen,
[1:01:20]
director of Government affairs
[1:01:22]
and public information for sb
[1:01:24]
cag. Today, I'll be presenting
[1:01:27]
the agency's 2026 state and
[1:01:28]
legislative platforms. These
[1:01:31]
definitely guide our advocacy
[1:01:32]
efforts in Sacramento and
[1:01:34]
Washington, dc, to secure
[1:01:36]
funding and advance policies
[1:01:37]
for high priority
[1:01:40]
transportation projects and
[1:01:42]
measure a investments when
[1:01:43]
major funding decisions are
[1:01:45]
made by the state and federal
[1:01:46]
governments, regions that speak
[1:01:49]
clearly and consistently
[1:01:51]
compete well for those funds.
[1:01:53]
So our platforms are how our
[1:01:54]
cities and the county can
[1:01:56]
coordinate in one regional
[1:01:58]
voice. These platforms are
[1:02:00]
updated annually and input from
[1:02:02]
and contain input from our
[1:02:04]
advisory committees, transit
[1:02:06]
partners, advocates, our
[1:02:08]
legislative advocates, regional
[1:02:09]
associations, associations like
[1:02:12]
the California Association of
[1:02:14]
Council of Governments. I also
[1:02:16]
want to recognize the sb case
[1:02:18]
management team. We meet
[1:02:20]
annually in the fall to kind of
[1:02:22]
set our priorities and look at
[1:02:23]
what the region's needs are. So
[1:02:25]
they really help shape these
[1:02:26]
platforms that are before you
[1:02:29]
today. So before you take
[1:02:30]
action on the platforms, you
[1:02:33]
will hear from our federal.
[1:02:34]
You'll hear about our federal
[1:02:37]
and state outlooks. And and
[1:02:38]
they will help provide context
[1:02:40]
for what we're proposing this
[1:02:42]
year. You'll first hear from
[1:02:44]
Don Gilchrist of Thomas Walters
[1:02:46]
and Associates, followed by Gus
[1:02:49]
Corey of Corey Consulting. Also
[1:02:51]
included in your action today
[1:02:54]
is allowing sb cag to join in
[1:02:57]
the Statewide Reauthorization
[1:03:00]
Principles document or support
[1:03:02]
the state's efforts on that.
[1:03:03]
And that's consistent with sb
[1:03:07]
cag reauthorization priorities.
[1:03:08]
This is an important time to do
[1:03:10]
that, because Congress is
[1:03:11]
renewing the federal
[1:03:14]
transportation law that funds
[1:03:17]
highways, bridges, transit, and
[1:03:19]
programs nationwide. So that
[1:03:21]
current law expires on
[1:03:22]
SEPTEMBER 30th of this year.
[1:03:24]
And so being at that forefront
[1:03:26]
and lending our voice not just
[1:03:27]
only with our priorities, but
[1:03:29]
with the state, is an important
[1:03:31]
path forward. So the draft
[1:03:33]
platforms are attached to your
[1:03:35]
report. It's included a track
[1:03:37]
changes version that documents
[1:03:39]
what's been changed since last
[1:03:42]
year, and a clean copy for your
[1:03:43]
consideration. So with that,
[1:03:46]
I'm going to pause and welcome
[1:03:48]
Don Gilchrist to talk about our
[1:03:51]
federal outlook. And then after
[1:03:52]
his, we can have a discussion
[1:03:54]
on the federal platform and
[1:03:58]
then move on to the state.
[1:03:59]
Thank you. And good morning,
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Vice Chair Silva. Members of
[1:04:02]
the board, Don Gilchrist, I'm
[1:04:04]
PRESIDENT Of Thomas Walters and
[1:04:06]
Associates. And I do want to
[1:04:08]
just give you a little bit of
[1:04:10]
an update on the federal
[1:04:11]
legislative situation. As you
[1:04:14]
look at the platform real
[1:04:17]
briefly. Last year was a very
[1:04:20]
interesting year. We
[1:04:22]
surprisingly, there was an
[1:04:23]
incredible number of executive
[1:04:24]
orders that came out of the
[1:04:27]
white House that really shaped
[1:04:30]
things and shook things up. I
[1:04:31]
think that's going to continue
[1:04:34]
this year. Last year it seems
[1:04:36]
like a distant memory, but H.R.
[1:04:37]
One, the Budget Reconciliation
[1:04:40]
Act, was signed into law in
[1:04:42]
JULY, and that has huge impacts
[1:04:46]
for sba. It unfortunately took
[1:04:47]
away some of the opportunities
[1:04:49]
and options for you to pursue
[1:04:51]
renewable energy incentives and
[1:04:54]
things like electric vehicle
[1:04:55]
charging infrastructure. Many
[1:04:57]
of those incentives were
[1:05:00]
repealed in H.R. One and then
[1:05:02]
appropriations. Always a
[1:05:03]
difficult thing for Congress to
[1:05:05]
do to get the appropriations
[1:05:07]
bill signed into law. We had
[1:05:09]
that really long shutdown in
[1:05:11]
OCTOBER and NOVEMBER. So it was
[1:05:13]
a very difficult year. But as
[1:05:16]
of FEBRUARY 3rd, 11 of the 12
[1:05:18]
bills have been signed into law,
[1:05:20]
including the transportation
[1:05:21]
bill. And that's the one that
[1:05:24]
really counts a lot for you. As
[1:05:27]
part of that, $1.5 million has
[1:05:29]
been signed into law for the
[1:05:30]
Cabrillo Project, and this was
[1:05:31]
something that Representative
[1:05:33]
Carbajal worked very hard on.
[1:05:36]
He requested this for sb, kg,
[1:05:37]
and his support was
[1:05:39]
instrumental in that being
[1:05:40]
included. And then, as Lauren
[1:05:44]
said, we are looking for a new
[1:05:46]
reauthorization for the Surface
[1:05:47]
Transportation Program
[1:05:49]
legislation. And last year we
[1:05:50]
started to lobby on that to get
[1:05:52]
ahead of the curve. And so it
[1:05:54]
was a very busy year. If we go
[1:05:56]
to the next slide, I did want
[1:05:58]
to talk a little bit more about
[1:05:58]
the transportation
[1:05:59]
appropriations bill, since
[1:06:01]
that's so important for you.
[1:06:02]
Essentially, this is a
[1:06:04]
compromise. Some of the
[1:06:05]
reductions that PRESIDENT Trump
[1:06:08]
was proposing were included in
[1:06:11]
this legislation. And notably,
[1:06:12]
there were there was a
[1:06:13]
rescission of funding for the
[1:06:15]
electric vehicle infrastructure
[1:06:17]
program, also a really big
[1:06:18]
rescission of funding for high
[1:06:21]
speed rail projects. But by and
[1:06:24]
large, the cuts that he was
[1:06:25]
proposing were rejected. And
[1:06:27]
the news is generally good for
[1:06:29]
sb, kg. Most of your funding
[1:06:31]
comes through the highway and
[1:06:33]
transit formulas, and they were
[1:06:34]
fully funded. And there are
[1:06:36]
some other opportunities in the
[1:06:37]
legislation for competitive
[1:06:38]
grants. What I wanted to make
[1:06:41]
sure to mention is that this is
[1:06:43]
the final year of the
[1:06:45]
additional funding for
[1:06:46]
transportation programs that
[1:06:48]
was provided by the
[1:06:49]
Infrastructure Investment and
[1:06:51]
Jobs Act. That is, in addition
[1:06:53]
to funding that is enacted
[1:06:54]
through the appropriations
[1:06:56]
process. And so as that comes
[1:06:57]
to an end, that just highlights,
[1:07:00]
again, how important the
[1:07:01]
reauthorization will be as we
[1:07:03]
work through this year. If we
[1:07:05]
go to the next slide, I do want
[1:07:06]
to just talk about that process
[1:07:09]
a little bit. Just first of all,
[1:07:11]
how important this is was
[1:07:13]
demonstrated during that long
[1:07:15]
government shutdown. There was
[1:07:17]
no interruption to the highway
[1:07:18]
program. There was no
[1:07:19]
interruption to the transit
[1:07:21]
program. And that was because
[1:07:22]
of funding that was enacted
[1:07:24]
through the infrastructure law.
[1:07:25]
And that illustrates how
[1:07:27]
important this is for you to
[1:07:30]
provide not only a robust
[1:07:33]
funding, but reliable funding.
[1:07:35]
The big challenge, how are we
[1:07:37]
going to pay for it? The
[1:07:40]
Highway Trust Fund will be
[1:07:42]
insolvent by 2028. That's
[1:07:44]
because motor fuels taxes are
[1:07:47]
not keeping up with spending.
[1:07:48]
So that's a big challenge to
[1:07:50]
getting the next surface
[1:07:51]
transportation bill put
[1:07:55]
together for you. We're really
[1:07:57]
emphasizing increasing the size
[1:08:01]
of the formula programs and
[1:08:02]
allocating as much of that
[1:08:04]
funding down to your level as
[1:08:06]
possible. And there's a number
[1:08:07]
of other programs that we're
[1:08:09]
working on, the metropolitan
[1:08:10]
planning programs, very
[1:08:12]
important for you, passenger
[1:08:14]
rail, transit, active
[1:08:16]
transportation, all those are
[1:08:18]
part of our lobbying effort.
[1:08:20]
And then there's the broadband
[1:08:21]
component that was included in
[1:08:23]
the infrastructure law. And we
[1:08:25]
want to see that continue if
[1:08:27]
possible. That's a little bit
[1:08:28]
controversial, but we're hoping
[1:08:30]
that something can be done for
[1:08:32]
that. I think what we're going
[1:08:35]
to see is a House bill come out
[1:08:37]
in the spring, and that's going
[1:08:39]
to give us a lot of help
[1:08:40]
understanding where this is
[1:08:41]
going. Is it going to be a
[1:08:43]
Partizan bill that the
[1:08:44]
committee chair puts together,
[1:08:47]
or is he going to keep it a
[1:08:49]
bipartisan process? And then a
[1:08:50]
little bit later, closer to the
[1:08:53]
summer, I think the Senate will
[1:08:54]
show their hand on what they're
[1:08:57]
going to be doing. This slide
[1:08:59]
just gives a summary of the
[1:09:01]
federal platform that's in your
[1:09:03]
packet. We'll just say there's
[1:09:05]
a lot of continuity with the
[1:09:09]
previous year. I think we've
[1:09:11]
updated it in a few places just
[1:09:15]
to account for the status of
[1:09:18]
legislation, but I'm
[1:09:20]
recommending that sb, cag again
[1:09:23]
come to dc this time in MARCH,
[1:09:25]
with board members and staff to
[1:09:27]
be able to lobby on your
[1:09:29]
federal platform. I think that
[1:09:30]
would be a great time for you
[1:09:32]
to be there. It's going to be
[1:09:33]
an interesting year again, a
[1:09:35]
difficult year with lots of
[1:09:36]
challenges. But I think if you
[1:09:38]
think see how the
[1:09:39]
appropriations process in
[1:09:41]
particular came together, it
[1:09:43]
does show that an aggressive
[1:09:45]
advocacy program does make a
[1:09:47]
difference. And some of these
[1:09:49]
things are important enough. We
[1:09:50]
can fight these battles and we
[1:09:52]
can win these battles. So I'll
[1:09:54]
pause there to see if I can
[1:09:56]
respond to any questions you
[1:09:57]
have. But I'm looking forward
[1:09:58]
to working with you throughout
[1:10:01]
the rest of this year. Thank
[1:10:02]
you very much. I ask Director
[1:10:06]
Hartman, why is broadband
[1:10:07]
controversial? Just sort of
[1:10:09]
public private responsibilities,
[1:10:13]
or does it go deeper? It's
[1:10:14]
certainly been targeted by the
[1:10:18]
Trump administration. The the
[1:10:22]
criticism that they levied was
[1:10:23]
that all this money has been
[1:10:26]
spent and no results have been
[1:10:27]
accomplished. I don't think
[1:10:29]
that's a fair assessment. I
[1:10:32]
don't think it is everything
[1:10:33]
that they're thinking about.
[1:10:34]
Broadband is just the most
[1:10:37]
convenient thing to say, but it
[1:10:39]
is definitely an area where
[1:10:41]
this additional funding that
[1:10:43]
was provided through the
[1:10:45]
infrastructure law isn't
[1:10:46]
necessarily going to be that
[1:10:47]
easy to replicate this time
[1:10:52]
around. Republicans in Congress
[1:10:54]
do have an interest in this,
[1:10:55]
but we've seen that they have
[1:10:59]
been not that excited about
[1:11:00]
going against the white House.
[1:11:02]
So we'll see how this goes, how
[1:11:03]
this plays out. No one really
[1:11:05]
has a really good feel for how
[1:11:07]
this is going to happen in the
[1:11:10]
area of broadband yet. Yeah, I
[1:11:11]
guess I don't understand. I
[1:11:13]
mean, I think of freeways and
[1:11:15]
railroads and there's always
[1:11:18]
been a huge federal investment,
[1:11:19]
government investment, along
[1:11:21]
with private money if we want
[1:11:24]
to make a difference. So I'm
[1:11:25]
and a lot of the money was
[1:11:27]
never even allocated. It's not
[1:11:29]
like it got rolled out the door.
[1:11:35]
So I'm still puzzled. I am too.
[1:11:36]
Any other questions up here in
[1:11:40]
Santa Maria? Any questions down
[1:11:45]
in Santa Barbara? Okay. Not
[1:11:47]
seeing. Thank you very much.
[1:11:48]
Great. So before we move on to
[1:11:50]
the state, I did want to
[1:11:51]
highlight that we are now that
[1:11:53]
the 101 is almost done using
[1:11:55]
this opportunity on our federal
[1:11:56]
platform to raise awareness
[1:11:58]
about the final four measure a
[1:12:00]
projects. So that is one of the
[1:12:01]
big changes that you see in the
[1:12:02]
legislative platform. And one
[1:12:04]
of our big efforts. We're
[1:12:05]
really looking forward to kind
[1:12:06]
of talking about those final
[1:12:07]
four projects, giving fact
[1:12:09]
sheets, raising awareness so
[1:12:11]
that it can help prepare us for
[1:12:13]
the funding, future funding
[1:12:15]
that we'll need on those
[1:12:17]
projects and any questions. And
[1:12:19]
so and so that's it for the
[1:12:21]
federal platform. So with that,
[1:12:23]
it is my pleasure to invite Gus
[1:12:26]
Corey up to talk about our
[1:12:30]
state outlook. Good morning
[1:12:31]
directors. Pleasure to be here.
[1:12:32]
Gus Corey state legislative
[1:12:34]
advocate for sb, cag. Have a
[1:12:35]
very short PowerPoint
[1:12:37]
presentation here. Exciting
[1:12:39]
times in Sacramento, as you
[1:12:41]
would expect. Maybe not as
[1:12:45]
exciting as D.C. But. Just to
[1:12:47]
briefly look at our
[1:12:48]
accomplishments, just to have
[1:12:49]
perspective. And so we talk
[1:12:51]
about the one on one being
[1:12:52]
almost done from the
[1:12:53]
construction side. From the
[1:12:54]
funding side, I think we're
[1:12:56]
done, knock on wood. So just to
[1:12:58]
give some perspective, the hard
[1:13:00]
work that this body did to get
[1:13:03]
measure a approved, we've
[1:13:05]
leveraged more than six times
[1:13:05]
the amount of money that the
[1:13:08]
measure provides in order to
[1:13:12]
make the 101 a reality. And so
[1:13:14]
$916 million has been secured
[1:13:18]
since 2016, $400 million for
[1:13:21]
rail for sb, cag and Lausanne,
[1:13:23]
including getting the rail
[1:13:26]
station funded. This was thanks
[1:13:27]
to Director Kern and her
[1:13:29]
leadership and staff, all the
[1:13:30]
great applications that we put
[1:13:32]
in and our advocacy, we were
[1:13:33]
able to help create some of
[1:13:36]
these programs to make this a
[1:13:38]
reality. So active
[1:13:39]
transportation, there's been
[1:13:40]
less funding, but we've been
[1:13:43]
very successful over $102
[1:13:44]
million that's been secured
[1:13:47]
since 2017. So as director said,
[1:13:49]
we've been throwing the kitchen
[1:13:51]
sink at trying to provide a
[1:13:54]
truly multi-modal region. This
[1:13:56]
is, you know, whether or not sb
[1:13:58]
375 or any other state law was
[1:14:00]
even being contemplated. So cap
[1:14:04]
and invest, this was previously
[1:14:05]
monikered as the cap and trade
[1:14:08]
program that was extended. We
[1:14:10]
had a significant role in
[1:14:12]
moving the ball forward on this.
[1:14:13]
Senator lemon was the author of
[1:14:15]
one of the bills that had the
[1:14:16]
expenditures in there. What
[1:14:19]
they did is there used to be
[1:14:20]
continuous appropriations based
[1:14:22]
on a percentage share for
[1:14:23]
transit and housing. They now
[1:14:25]
made those line items. So it'll
[1:14:25]
be a little bit more
[1:14:26]
challenging. I'll talk about
[1:14:28]
that in a second. But it did
[1:14:30]
retain funding for some
[1:14:31]
affordable housing, sustainable
[1:14:33]
Community strategies funding
[1:14:34]
and then for transit capital
[1:14:37]
and operations. And then the
[1:14:38]
reprogram this was supplemental
[1:14:39]
funding for you guys to be able
[1:14:41]
to build affordable housing in
[1:14:44]
the region. And so we fought to
[1:14:45]
protect against some of the
[1:14:48]
cuts that Governor Newsom had
[1:14:49]
proposed last year. He wanted
[1:14:51]
to cut about $300 million. We
[1:14:54]
were able to save, recoup about
[1:14:55]
250 million of that. So out of
[1:14:58]
a $600 million program, we kept
[1:15:00]
intact, 550 and that protected
[1:15:02]
772 units in the county. Next
[1:15:04]
slide. So opportunities and
[1:15:08]
challenges $18 billion versus a
[1:15:09]
$2.9 billion general fund
[1:15:11]
deficit. That's the $18 billion
[1:15:12]
the Leos estimate. The
[1:15:15]
governor's estimate is 2.9.
[1:15:16]
It's based upon the fact that
[1:15:18]
the Leo factors in, hey, we
[1:15:19]
predict that the stock market's
[1:15:21]
going to go down by 20%. We
[1:15:23]
literally rely on the stock
[1:15:25]
market. It's capital gains,
[1:15:26]
personal income tax and
[1:15:28]
corporate taxes that fund the
[1:15:30]
general fund. The good news is
[1:15:32]
that we're fairly insulated
[1:15:34]
from that conversation, because
[1:15:35]
transportation relies on the
[1:15:37]
gas tax and then vehicle
[1:15:39]
registration fees for the most
[1:15:41]
part. But we get stung anytime
[1:15:42]
that we rely on the general
[1:15:44]
fund. So when there was a
[1:15:45]
surplus a couple years ago and
[1:15:46]
the legislature had approved
[1:15:49]
Senate Bill 125, we got a $53
[1:15:52]
million formula, formulaic
[1:15:55]
share of a 5.1 statewide pot.
[1:15:56]
We have not received the full
[1:15:58]
balance of that money. And
[1:15:59]
what's happened is it was a
[1:16:01]
general fund obligation. It got
[1:16:02]
moved over into the greenhouse
[1:16:04]
gas reduction fund. Legislature
[1:16:05]
said, hey, we need to fund Cal
[1:16:08]
Fire. So we're going to it
[1:16:10]
creates less capacity. So we're
[1:16:11]
still waiting on about $14
[1:16:13]
million worth of funding to
[1:16:14]
help out with our transit
[1:16:15]
operations and capital needs in
[1:16:18]
the county, and then on air
[1:16:21]
equality, as MR. Becker's
[1:16:23]
presentation pointed out, just
[1:16:24]
context there. So there has
[1:16:26]
been legislation that was
[1:16:27]
introduced a couple days ago,
[1:16:30]
Senate Bill 1087 by Senator
[1:16:32]
Cabaldon. He represents Yolo
[1:16:35]
County. It's just it's been a
[1:16:36]
one size fits all approach,
[1:16:37]
which has been really
[1:16:38]
frustrating. And MR. Becker
[1:16:39]
would tell you and Director
[1:16:42]
Kern would tell you that 87% of
[1:16:43]
the state's population lives in
[1:16:45]
the big four mpo. So Sacramento,
[1:16:48]
San Diego, Scag region and the
[1:16:50]
Bay area mtc. So that leaves 14
[1:16:52]
other MPOs having to try to
[1:16:55]
address vehicle miles traveled
[1:16:58]
where the the mission doesn't
[1:17:00]
always befit the practicality
[1:17:02]
of our uniqueness as a as a
[1:17:03]
region. So if you're able to
[1:17:05]
build more housing, you get
[1:17:06]
dinged because you're creating
[1:17:07]
a new hot spot, because there
[1:17:09]
isn't money to have transit
[1:17:10]
oriented development, because
[1:17:13]
they've cut funding for rail or
[1:17:16]
for or for transit. 40% of our
[1:17:17]
economy, at least along the
[1:17:19]
Central Coast, relies on
[1:17:23]
tourism. When 5 or 99 shut down
[1:17:24]
due to inclement weather, the
[1:17:26]
one on one becomes your only
[1:17:27]
north south connector in the
[1:17:28]
state. And it's been an
[1:17:30]
evacuation route, as we've seen
[1:17:32]
time and time again. So those
[1:17:33]
conversations need to be
[1:17:35]
factored in. So what the bill
[1:17:36]
currently does right now, it's
[1:17:39]
going to change, I'm sure of it.
[1:17:41]
And we're fortunate that
[1:17:42]
Senator Lindeman is now the
[1:17:44]
Senate PRESIDENT Pro tem of the
[1:17:45]
Senate. So we have a strong
[1:17:50]
advocate there. But it delays
[1:17:52]
it, gives sb, cag more time in
[1:17:53]
order to put the Sustainable
[1:17:55]
Community Strategies plans
[1:17:56]
together, which is fine,
[1:17:57]
because we get into this
[1:17:58]
redundancy of just doing plan
[1:17:59]
after plan, but then they're
[1:18:01]
trying to fix some money to
[1:18:03]
their endeavor because us
[1:18:05]
coming out of pocket again for
[1:18:06]
unfunded state mandate doesn't
[1:18:07]
seem quite fair. So we're
[1:18:08]
trying to see how that shakes
[1:18:11]
out. So conversations will be
[1:18:13]
ongoing. Will be we'll play a
[1:18:14]
large role in that conversation.
[1:18:17]
And then the gas tax conversion,
[1:18:20]
this has been an ongoing thing.
[1:18:22]
The last time Senate Bill one
[1:18:24]
was sort of a band aid. It was
[1:18:26]
one time funding at the time
[1:18:28]
where we thought, hey, we can
[1:18:29]
increase the gas tax, have a
[1:18:30]
registration fee, and then
[1:18:32]
we'll convert over to something
[1:18:33]
else. Well, we haven't done
[1:18:34]
that since 2017. And so prior
[1:18:37]
to 2017, the last time that we
[1:18:38]
increased funding for
[1:18:40]
transportation was 1994. So
[1:18:42]
there's some misinformation on
[1:18:44]
the the road user charge or vmt
[1:18:46]
fee, however you want to refer
[1:18:49]
to it. And it's it is a
[1:18:50]
conundrum. It's a dichotomy
[1:18:52]
because the state wants to
[1:18:53]
reduce vehicle miles traveled,
[1:18:54]
yet they're trying to possibly
[1:18:55]
rely on vehicle miles traveled
[1:18:57]
to fund our infrastructure.
[1:18:58]
You're going to wind up having
[1:19:00]
the same problem as the gas tax.
[1:19:01]
It's a declining revenue source
[1:19:02]
because people telecommute more.
[1:19:04]
There are more electric
[1:19:05]
vehicles, although there's such
[1:19:07]
a small segment of the current
[1:19:08]
fleet that's out there, they're
[1:19:11]
about 7%. There's 32 million
[1:19:12]
registered cars in the state.
[1:19:14]
So we need something that's
[1:19:15]
more sustainable. Our
[1:19:16]
suggestion was maybe just
[1:19:19]
converting over to a vehicle
[1:19:20]
registration fee, which already
[1:19:22]
exists. It's progressive. Cars
[1:19:23]
depreciate, you pay less. It's
[1:19:25]
stable, predictable funding.
[1:19:27]
You can have people save money
[1:19:30]
there too. So that's an ongoing
[1:19:31]
conversation that we're happy
[1:19:33]
to engage the board on. And
[1:19:34]
then next slide please. So our
[1:19:37]
state platform protect and
[1:19:40]
acquire state funding a focus
[1:19:42]
of ours is on the broadband
[1:19:44]
piece. So sb cag was a
[1:19:46]
recipient. It was one time
[1:19:47]
funding that we received from
[1:19:50]
the feds where we have a $15
[1:19:52]
million share. We've received
[1:19:55]
about $4 million. There's about
[1:19:56]
11 million outstanding of the
[1:19:58]
puc owes us. So we want to talk
[1:20:00]
to Senator Assemblymember Hart
[1:20:03]
and others about trying to get
[1:20:04]
the full balance of that to
[1:20:05]
drive down vehicle miles
[1:20:07]
traveled to provide more
[1:20:08]
accessibility to others, you
[1:20:10]
know, within the region to work
[1:20:12]
from home, study from home,
[1:20:14]
whatever it is with the
[1:20:15]
Olympics. I know that we had
[1:20:18]
the picture earlier with
[1:20:20]
Director Comey. I know Director
[1:20:21]
Kern's been working with him.
[1:20:22]
So however, we can collaborate
[1:20:24]
and looking for resources to
[1:20:26]
help out with logistics and
[1:20:27]
facilitating a successful event.
[1:20:29]
And what we expect to be, a lot
[1:20:31]
of people are going to want to
[1:20:32]
come up this way to see what
[1:20:34]
the Central Coast has to offer
[1:20:35]
enhancing transit services,
[1:20:36]
trying to get the full balance
[1:20:40]
of our 125 funding, expanding
[1:20:42]
passenger rail service. That's
[1:20:43]
there's a gap in service.
[1:20:45]
Really low end terminates in
[1:20:48]
San Luis Obispo. And then
[1:20:49]
you've got Cap corridor and
[1:20:51]
others that terminate in San
[1:20:53]
Jose. So there's about a 153
[1:20:55]
mile gap. If we clear that gap
[1:20:57]
you'd probably help encourage
[1:20:59]
mode shift. There's more
[1:21:00]
discretionary riders along the
[1:21:02]
coast and then addressing
[1:21:03]
climate change excess revenues.
[1:21:05]
So there was discussion when we
[1:21:07]
passed the cap and Invest
[1:21:09]
program that because of the
[1:21:10]
market stability, that there
[1:21:12]
would be excess revenues
[1:21:13]
produced through the auctions.
[1:21:15]
If so, we'd like to see that
[1:21:17]
augmented towards transit,
[1:21:19]
whether that's operations and
[1:21:21]
capital, maybe even active
[1:21:22]
transportation, because that's,
[1:21:23]
you know, been dwindling. If
[1:21:24]
that's something that the sb
[1:21:26]
cag wants to pursue and then
[1:21:29]
House money is reap was one
[1:21:30]
time funding. We need more of
[1:21:32]
it clearly because otherwise
[1:21:34]
your arena documents are just a
[1:21:36]
concept that you can't really
[1:21:38]
execute on. So we're looking
[1:21:39]
for some assistance there. And
[1:21:41]
maybe the sb 375 exercise will
[1:21:42]
help provide some clarity on
[1:21:44]
that. So that concludes my
[1:21:46]
report. And I think the
[1:21:47]
trapdoor is going to open if i
[1:21:49]
go longer. So I'll take any
[1:21:51]
questions. Director Lavagnino
[1:21:52]
thank you, MR. Chair. So I want
[1:21:54]
to go back to the gas tax
[1:21:56]
because seems like a lot of
[1:21:57]
concern in the community. And I
[1:21:59]
think a lot of it is there's
[1:22:02]
just because it just gets a lot
[1:22:03]
of misinformation out there
[1:22:06]
right away. So first off, how
[1:22:07]
much per gallon are we paying
[1:22:09]
just in like a state gas tax,
[1:22:12]
sb one attached to it. So all
[1:22:14]
in it and it's adjusted for
[1:22:15]
inflation. Every single year we
[1:22:20]
pay 61.2 cents. And then if
[1:22:22]
we're talking about a vmt or
[1:22:24]
what I like better is your idea
[1:22:26]
of a registration. And I'd like
[1:22:28]
to see how far that idea is if
[1:22:29]
that's getting any traction.
[1:22:33]
But is that in lieu of or in
[1:22:34]
addition to the $0.61 that
[1:22:36]
we're paying the the road user
[1:22:38]
charge or vmt charge would be
[1:22:40]
in lieu of the gas tax. And so
[1:22:41]
currently it's being tested at
[1:22:43]
two and a half cents. That was
[1:22:45]
the most recent pilot. And so
[1:22:47]
it's the gas tax generates
[1:22:50]
about $8.1 billion per year. So
[1:22:51]
that's the nut that they have
[1:22:52]
to kind of crack right. Going
[1:22:54]
forward. Kind of got to work it
[1:22:55]
backwards a little bit. Yes
[1:22:57]
okay. So I mean there's a lot
[1:22:58]
of reasons and I've heard a lot
[1:23:01]
of them why vmt is is just kind
[1:23:04]
of a bad tool. It kind of just
[1:23:06]
it's a disadvantage to people
[1:23:07]
in rural communities, those
[1:23:09]
types of things. So I like the
[1:23:13]
idea of, of of moving to it. So
[1:23:15]
how would the registration EVs
[1:23:16]
they register the same? I don't
[1:23:18]
have one, but they register the
[1:23:20]
same as every other car. Yeah.
[1:23:22]
So what currently happens is
[1:23:23]
it's called the transportation
[1:23:25]
improvement fee. So there's
[1:23:27]
it's a tiered flat fee based on
[1:23:29]
the valuation of your vehicle.
[1:23:30]
And so I think it's gone up.
[1:23:32]
It's like $33 if your car is
[1:23:34]
worth less than 5000, which is
[1:23:36]
about 41% of all cars in the
[1:23:38]
state, believe it or not. And
[1:23:40]
then another 30% are cars that
[1:23:42]
are 25,000 or less. They pay
[1:23:45]
about $66, and so only 3% of
[1:23:46]
cars in the state are worth
[1:23:49]
over $60,000. And so but cars
[1:23:50]
depreciate, so you pay less.
[1:23:51]
But that revenue source has
[1:23:53]
been going up because it's
[1:23:55]
indexed for inflation. So in
[1:23:57]
2018 it generated 1.7 billion.
[1:24:00]
And now it generates over $2.5
[1:24:01]
billion. The electric vehicles.
[1:24:02]
It's interesting how those are
[1:24:04]
treated. So in Senate Bill one
[1:24:06]
there was a new fee they pay in
[1:24:07]
addition to the registration
[1:24:09]
fee, a fee just for electric
[1:24:11]
vehicles. And so there's about
[1:24:13]
2.5 million, but not all of
[1:24:16]
them pay it. It was all it was
[1:24:19]
cars after 2020. And there were
[1:24:21]
about 700,000 of them in
[1:24:24]
existence before 2020. And so
[1:24:27]
that's about $121 annually that
[1:24:28]
they pay. So I think there's a
[1:24:30]
way to just have all 32 million
[1:24:33]
cars pay. Or if you wanted to
[1:24:35]
do it by by driver, I guess you
[1:24:36]
could do that. But it's
[1:24:37]
probably better per vehicle.
[1:24:39]
And then it would reduce the
[1:24:40]
amount if you convert over from
[1:24:42]
what people currently pay from
[1:24:43]
a gas tax. And the current
[1:24:44]
registration fee is, is there
[1:24:46]
anything out there that tells
[1:24:47]
you what the average person
[1:24:49]
pays in gas tax year? I'm just
[1:24:50]
trying to think of how many
[1:24:52]
gallons I go through and what
[1:24:53]
that would look like on a
[1:24:54]
registration. So the rough, the
[1:24:56]
rough math is and I'd have to
[1:24:58]
defer to Caltrans or to others,
[1:25:00]
but all we can go off of is
[1:25:03]
what's published. So the
[1:25:04]
California Department of Tax
[1:25:05]
and Fee Administration
[1:25:06]
publishes the amount that's
[1:25:08]
generated for the gas tax. And
[1:25:09]
then the Energy Commission
[1:25:10]
publishes the amount of gallons.
[1:25:12]
And so the rough estimate is
[1:25:18]
that it's about $291 per driver
[1:25:21]
and per vehicle. It's about
[1:25:25]
$270 or so. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:25:27]
The only I like the
[1:25:29]
registration idea. I mean,
[1:25:30]
theoretically your gas prices
[1:25:32]
would drop, but then you'd also
[1:25:34]
but in lieu of that, you're
[1:25:36]
being hit with this other fee.
[1:25:38]
I'm curious if there's any talk
[1:25:39]
of the thing is, when you're
[1:25:40]
buying gas, you're buying it
[1:25:42]
once a week or whatever, you
[1:25:44]
spread it out as opposed to you
[1:25:45]
get this big bill one at, you
[1:25:47]
know, in APRIL and it says, hey,
[1:25:49]
you owe x. I could see that
[1:25:51]
being a problem for people, but
[1:25:52]
I'm sure they're looking at
[1:25:54]
that. They are. And I think the
[1:25:56]
method of collection, I think
[1:25:57]
is to be determined. But
[1:25:58]
there's nothing to preclude the
[1:25:59]
legislature from saying, hey,
[1:26:00]
let's collect this monthly. I
[1:26:02]
think that was the intention
[1:26:03]
with the road user charge.
[1:26:05]
That's going to be a little bit
[1:26:07]
trickier. I think just some of
[1:26:08]
the backlash has been, well,
[1:26:09]
it's a privacy concern. People
[1:26:11]
don't really want the
[1:26:12]
transponder. Although our cell
[1:26:14]
phones and our cars have gps. I
[1:26:15]
think it's just it's more overt
[1:26:17]
for some. So legislators
[1:26:18]
haven't wanted to touch that.
[1:26:20]
It is a fairness issue, the
[1:26:22]
rural versus urban dynamic, you
[1:26:24]
know, that kind of a thing. But
[1:26:25]
so where are we at on this? I
[1:26:26]
mean, like what's kind of
[1:26:28]
timeline or is it just going to
[1:26:30]
fade away and we're going to be
[1:26:32]
paying gas tax? My fear, my
[1:26:33]
fear is that there has been
[1:26:34]
misinformation about the road
[1:26:36]
user charge. Doing nothing is
[1:26:37]
the absolute worst option,
[1:26:39]
because we're projected to lose
[1:26:41]
about $5 billion in gas tax
[1:26:43]
revenue over the next decade.
[1:26:44]
So we have to do something. And
[1:26:46]
if we don't do something under
[1:26:47]
this current administration,
[1:26:48]
which I know it's his last year
[1:26:50]
governor, Governor Newsom, the
[1:26:52]
new governor, is going to not
[1:26:53]
going to want to do this in
[1:26:55]
their first year, either. It's
[1:26:56]
going to take a while and who
[1:26:58]
knows what their priorities are
[1:26:59]
going to be. So, you know,
[1:27:01]
we're happy to come back and
[1:27:02]
give more of a deeper dive, you
[1:27:06]
know, on this. But I think the
[1:27:07]
Road User Task force has been
[1:27:09]
looking at this for 12 years,
[1:27:10]
and they haven't moved the
[1:27:11]
needle on the conversation. So
[1:27:13]
it's time to look at different
[1:27:14]
alternatives. And we already
[1:27:15]
collect the vehicle
[1:27:16]
registration fee. And it's not
[1:27:17]
something that you really hear
[1:27:19]
much about. And again cars
[1:27:20]
depreciate so you wind up
[1:27:21]
paying less which is kind of
[1:27:23]
the beauty of it. So it's
[1:27:24]
progressive and there's a way
[1:27:26]
for people to save especially
[1:27:28]
on the lower end. So it kind of
[1:27:30]
checks the box on affordability.
[1:27:32]
Thanks. Of course, Director
[1:27:35]
Mosby, I'd be more apt to
[1:27:38]
support a vmt. I have eight
[1:27:40]
vehicles that I have, but each
[1:27:41]
vehicle is used for different
[1:27:43]
purposes and different reasons.
[1:27:45]
They have it so you'd be paying
[1:27:48]
an increased dmv charge for
[1:27:49]
registering a vehicle that's
[1:27:52]
parked, you know, six out of
[1:27:56]
seven days. It's kind of a I
[1:27:57]
guess you can blame it because
[1:27:59]
somebody has the ability to own
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more vehicles. That's more fair
[1:28:03]
to to burden them than somebody
[1:28:04]
who's actually using the roads
[1:28:05]
in the driving. And like you
[1:28:08]
say, the vehicles are already
[1:28:09]
watched significantly all the
[1:28:12]
way around. So one of the
[1:28:13]
aspects that you didn't put up
[1:28:14]
there, some states are able to
[1:28:16]
build asphalt for significantly
[1:28:18]
less. I think Texas was, what,
[1:28:21]
three a third as much per mile
[1:28:23]
or something. I'm trying to
[1:28:25]
remember my visit there, but I
[1:28:27]
mean, if you could maybe find
[1:28:29]
ways to be call it efficiency
[1:28:32]
or whatever it is, but other
[1:28:33]
states are able to do this and
[1:28:35]
save a significant amount of
[1:28:39]
money by. Multiple different
[1:28:41]
ways. And that wasn't one of
[1:28:42]
your things is how can we how
[1:28:44]
can we do it more efficiently?
[1:28:45]
What is their trigger there to
[1:28:48]
be able to do it? I know a lot
[1:28:49]
of the answer that's there, but
[1:28:51]
people hate to say that as many
[1:28:52]
times we spend more money
[1:28:53]
studying a problem than fixing
[1:28:56]
the problem. And like you
[1:28:56]
mentioned, sometimes it can
[1:28:59]
take ten years to get a project
[1:29:01]
up and going. And again, we
[1:29:03]
just sit there and study, study,
[1:29:05]
study. Or I've seen it. When we
[1:29:06]
send people out to study a
[1:29:07]
project, you might have 15
[1:29:09]
people coming out looking at
[1:29:10]
the white line on a street, but
[1:29:12]
maybe there's ways that we can
[1:29:13]
get more efficient with this
[1:29:14]
and save a significant amount
[1:29:17]
of money. Right? Yeah, I think
[1:29:19]
the legislature's open. They
[1:29:20]
don't have a good solution. And
[1:29:23]
so they're open. It's just so
[1:29:24]
far the road user charges has
[1:29:26]
not resonated. It hasn't had
[1:29:29]
any any traction. So but doing
[1:29:30]
nothing is absolutely the worst
[1:29:35]
option. Any questions down in
[1:29:41]
Santa Barbara. Okay. So just
[1:29:43]
aside from that, MR. Vice Chair,
[1:29:44]
we look forward to hosting you
[1:29:46]
on MARCH 18th for the Central
[1:29:48]
Coast Coalition Legislative day.
[1:29:49]
So we go up to Sacramento every
[1:29:51]
single year. We work with Santa
[1:29:53]
Cruz on down to meet with, you
[1:29:54]
know, the entire delegation,
[1:29:56]
and we'll meet with the policy
[1:29:57]
committee chairs and such. And
[1:29:59]
so look forward to having a
[1:30:00]
productive day. Thank you so
[1:30:03]
much. All right. So we talked
[1:30:05]
about the actions before you
[1:30:06]
today. So it's approving the
[1:30:08]
state and federal legislative
[1:30:09]
platforms. We can certainly
[1:30:11]
follow up with some additional
[1:30:12]
opportunities for the board. If
[1:30:14]
you want to do a deep dive a
[1:30:16]
little bit more on the road
[1:30:17]
user charge and some things
[1:30:20]
that are happening around there,
[1:30:22]
and then with that, looking to
[1:30:24]
get some authorization from you
[1:30:26]
for to sign on to the state
[1:30:28]
federal reauthorization
[1:30:30]
principles. And that's before
[1:30:32]
you. Thank you very much. Is
[1:30:33]
there any public comment on
[1:30:35]
this item? There are any
[1:30:36]
members of the public on the
[1:30:38]
zoom webinar who wish to speak?
[1:30:39]
Please use the raise Hand
[1:30:41]
feature, and I will call upon
[1:30:45]
you. We did not receive any
[1:30:47]
public comment for this item in
[1:30:48]
advance, and there are no
[1:30:50]
attendees on zoom who wish to
[1:30:51]
speak. Okay, we'll bring it
[1:30:53]
back to the board for
[1:30:54]
discussion and a possible
[1:31:02]
motion. Not hearing much
[1:31:04]
discussion. Is there anyone who
[1:31:05]
would like to make a motion?
[1:31:07]
I'll move one through four. In
[1:31:10]
today's staff report, I have a
[1:31:11]
first from Director Hartman. Do
[1:31:14]
we have a second? Second with
[1:31:15]
the second from Director Patino?
[1:31:17]
If we could do a roll call.
[1:31:19]
Vote, please. Director Perrotti
[1:31:22]
I, director Patino. I director
[1:31:27]
Mosby I director Lee I director
[1:31:29]
lavagnino. Director. Julian.
[1:31:31]
Director. Hartman. Director.
[1:31:35]
Friedman I director Clark. I
[1:31:38]
director. Capps I. Director.
[1:31:41]
Brown. I, vice chair. Silva and
[1:31:43]
chair. Nelson is absent. Motion
[1:31:45]
passes. Wonderful. We'll now
[1:31:47]
move on to our executive
[1:31:48]
director report by Director
[1:31:49]
Kern. Thank you, MR. Vice
[1:31:50]
Chairperson, members of the
[1:31:53]
board. First of all, I want to
[1:31:54]
thank you for approving the
[1:31:55]
Intercity passenger Rail
[1:31:57]
Service agreement. This is a
[1:31:59]
major accomplishment for this
[1:32:01]
agency. And I also want to
[1:32:02]
acknowledge the major
[1:32:03]
accomplishment of the
[1:32:05]
multimodal divisional staff.
[1:32:07]
Aaron Bonfiglio couldn't make
[1:32:09]
it today. He's in la for a
[1:32:10]
meeting on the Low Sand
[1:32:12]
Corridor working group, so he
[1:32:14]
felt he needed to represent sb
[1:32:15]
cag down there. But Whitney
[1:32:17]
Rush has been actively involved
[1:32:19]
in the the development of the
[1:32:21]
agreements and the negotiations
[1:32:22]
throughout. So I just really
[1:32:24]
want to thank them for all
[1:32:26]
their efforts to get us to this
[1:32:28]
place. It's been a long,
[1:32:30]
frustrating road, but the
[1:32:31]
change in direction just
[1:32:33]
happened a few months ago, and
[1:32:35]
here we are today approving
[1:32:37]
this new agreement and
[1:32:38]
hopefully starting rail service
[1:32:39]
in the next month or so. So
[1:32:41]
thank you. Thank you for that.
[1:32:43]
I also want to thank Gus and
[1:32:44]
Don for their presentations and
[1:32:46]
their work representing sb, cag
[1:32:48]
at the state and federal level.
[1:32:50]
We have two legislative visits
[1:32:51]
coming up, which they mentioned
[1:32:52]
the first in Sacramento with
[1:32:55]
the Central Coast Coalition and
[1:32:57]
director, excuse me, vice Chair
[1:32:58]
Silva has volunteered
[1:32:59]
graciously, graciously
[1:33:01]
volunteered to represent sb cag
[1:33:03]
on that day. So thank you for
[1:33:05]
committing to that trip. And
[1:33:08]
then our dc trip with Chair
[1:33:09]
Nelson, Vice Chair Silva and
[1:33:10]
Director Rouse will happen as
[1:33:13]
well. Later this month, Cal cog
[1:33:14]
is hosting the Regional
[1:33:16]
Leadership Forum in MARCH as
[1:33:18]
well, and Director Pitino is
[1:33:19]
representing sb cag on this
[1:33:21]
board, so she'll be attending
[1:33:22]
the board meeting as well as
[1:33:24]
attending the conference itself.
[1:33:27]
And then last but not least,
[1:33:29]
measure a citizens advisory
[1:33:31]
committee will be meeting on
[1:33:32]
MARCH 4th to review the annual
[1:33:34]
report and an update on the
[1:33:35]
train schedule and from Ventura
[1:33:38]
to Goleta. So it will be a very
[1:33:40]
full agenda. And MARCH is going
[1:33:44]
to be a very busy month for us.
[1:33:45]
So with that, I'll pass it over
[1:33:48]
to the chair. Vice chair, thank
[1:33:51]
you very much. Caltrans
[1:33:54]
Director of Planning and Modal.
[1:33:56]
Thank you. Chair or vice chair
[1:33:58]
and directors brandy rider.
[1:34:00]
Just for the record planning
[1:34:03]
and modal deputy for district
[1:34:04]
five. I just really have only
[1:34:05]
one announcement today.
[1:34:08]
Caltrans recently announced a
[1:34:09]
$25 million Community Cleanup
[1:34:11]
and Employment Pathways grant.
[1:34:14]
We had four awards in district
[1:34:17]
five and one award here in
[1:34:18]
Santa Barbara County with
[1:34:21]
Guadalupe received about
[1:34:24]
280,000 for a City of Guadalupe
[1:34:25]
beautification project. So
[1:34:28]
we're excited to see a local
[1:34:30]
agency get that funding. And
[1:34:31]
with that, I don't really have
[1:34:33]
any other updates, but I'd be
[1:34:34]
happy to answer any questions
[1:34:40]
of the board. Any questions?
[1:34:44]
Anyone in Santa Barbara? All
[1:34:46]
right, we're moving right along.
[1:34:49]
Okay. Next up, we will go to
[1:34:51]
our committee meeting. Report
[1:34:52]
updates. Director Patino, do we
[1:34:54]
have anything from Cal Cog? Yes.
[1:34:56]
Thank you very much. This is my
[1:35:00]
first meeting and there was an
[1:35:02]
exploration of establishing a
[1:35:05]
500 and 1c3. It's right now it
[1:35:07]
operates with 500 1c4. And so
[1:35:09]
there was discussion and
[1:35:10]
information on that. We
[1:35:12]
discussed the regional
[1:35:14]
leadership forum which will be
[1:35:15]
coming up MARCH 11th, ninth
[1:35:18]
through 11th and got an update
[1:35:20]
on the state legislature, which
[1:35:23]
is what we're talking about, a
[1:35:24]
2.9 billion deficit. We'll see
[1:35:28]
what the MAY revise is. Then we
[1:35:31]
had a brief discussion on sb
[1:35:33]
375. Today was much more
[1:35:34]
clarified. Thank you, MR.
[1:35:37]
Becker, for that. And then
[1:35:38]
they're looking for a vice
[1:35:40]
PRESIDENT Nomination and nobody
[1:35:41]
volunteered. And that's about
[1:35:45]
it. Thank you. Great. Okay. And
[1:35:46]
then we'll go to Director
[1:35:47]
Perrotti to provide an update
[1:35:51]
on Lausanne. Thank you, vice
[1:35:53]
Chair Silva. Well, the main
[1:35:56]
topic of that meeting was the
[1:35:59]
extended rail service. And it
[1:36:00]
was met with a lot of
[1:36:04]
excitement and and positive
[1:36:06]
responses. We also talked a
[1:36:08]
little bit about we got a
[1:36:12]
briefing on the draft business
[1:36:14]
plan. I was able to get in two
[1:36:17]
edits and it'll come back for a
[1:36:19]
vote next, next meeting. And
[1:36:22]
the edits were that we would
[1:36:27]
make sure that was critical to.
[1:36:31]
The and the critical need for
[1:36:35]
service to continue via state
[1:36:37]
support. So we we talked about
[1:36:39]
making sure that that was in
[1:36:40]
there, that the necessary
[1:36:42]
funding from state be provided
[1:36:45]
to ensure we have not have to
[1:36:49]
reduce service and risk long
[1:36:51]
losing out on the benefits of
[1:36:53]
that. This particular service
[1:36:56]
will provide to San Luis from
[1:36:58]
la to San Luis Obispo,
[1:37:00]
especially with the Olympics,
[1:37:02]
you know, coming. So it does
[1:37:04]
benefit the whole corridor. So
[1:37:06]
that was that's end of my
[1:37:08]
report. Thank you very much,
[1:37:09]
director and director Perotti,
[1:37:11]
for those reports. We'll now go
[1:37:12]
to any one minute reports.
[1:37:13]
Anyone have anything they'd
[1:37:16]
like to. Oh doctor Julian I do
[1:37:19]
three three quick items. One is
[1:37:20]
thank you Caltrans for the for
[1:37:21]
the funding. It's very
[1:37:23]
important to us. And then
[1:37:25]
Senator Schiff was here in
[1:37:26]
Guadalupe and other other areas,
[1:37:28]
and they helped support the
[1:37:29]
learning center in Guadalupe
[1:37:31]
and also the senior center. And
[1:37:33]
then lastly, I'd like to thank
[1:37:35]
Lauren and Margie for braving
[1:37:38]
the winter, the snowstorm, the
[1:37:39]
hurricanes to meet with me this
[1:37:40]
morning. So appreciate that
[1:37:43]
update. Okay. Thank you.
[1:37:44]
Director Patino, did you have
[1:37:46]
an update you wanted? No I do
[1:37:49]
okay, perfect I. Director Mosby.
[1:37:51]
Yeah. Just will probably
[1:37:53]
announce we're in Lompoc. Going
[1:37:56]
to try to put a half cent
[1:37:59]
asphalt tax on me, MR. Anti-tax,
[1:38:00]
but we're reaching out trying
[1:38:02]
to piggyback and piggyback
[1:38:04]
match what you guys and your
[1:38:06]
success that you did with MR. A,
[1:38:07]
and we have $70 million of
[1:38:09]
deferred maintenance in our
[1:38:11]
town with the pci. I think
[1:38:13]
we're like 54. I mean, it's
[1:38:15]
just falling and falling. So we
[1:38:17]
have to do something and I will
[1:38:18]
brag about the successes and
[1:38:20]
the leveraging that you've done
[1:38:23]
with MR. Right now, the county
[1:38:24]
is trying to give me measure a
[1:38:26]
on this for the ballot. And I'm
[1:38:28]
like, no, no, give us something
[1:38:29]
else. Right? I mean, I don't
[1:38:31]
want to steal your thunder and
[1:38:32]
stuff, but if any of the
[1:38:34]
directors want to get on board
[1:38:35]
and help support that, it can
[1:38:37]
help me sell this measure. I'd
[1:38:38]
appreciate it, Director Hartman.
[1:38:39]
Oh, just a question. So, is it
[1:38:41]
a special tax or general
[1:38:43]
general tax? Special tax for
[1:38:45]
asphalt sidewalks and storm
[1:38:47]
drains. That's a supermajority,
[1:38:50]
right? Yes. Two thirds like you
[1:38:53]
got 79% that you passed with
[1:38:55]
MISS Reyes. I think we have a
[1:38:56]
really good chance. When I
[1:38:57]
pulled it out, 80% of the
[1:38:59]
people felt a need to fix the
[1:39:00]
streets in town. It's driven
[1:39:02]
down enough that it. I think we
[1:39:04]
have a really good chance to do
[1:39:06]
this. I don't trust City Hall
[1:39:07]
with a general tax. We we did
[1:39:09]
that already and they already
[1:39:12]
spent all the money. So thank
[1:39:13]
you very much. Are there any
[1:39:15]
one minute reports down in
[1:39:20]
Santa Barbara? I do Perotti.
[1:39:23]
I'd just like to report that
[1:39:24]
the two roundabouts that are
[1:39:27]
part of the Project Connect are
[1:39:29]
scheduled to open to traffic by
[1:39:31]
the the morning of MARCH the
[1:39:34]
2nd. And I only laugh because I
[1:39:36]
think our phones will start
[1:39:38]
ringing again. But we're doing
[1:39:40]
a massive outreach to help
[1:39:42]
people understand how you
[1:39:44]
navigate. If you've never done
[1:39:45]
a roundabout or a double lane
[1:39:47]
roundabout, how you navigate
[1:39:49]
that. So but we're looking
[1:39:52]
forward to it finally becoming
[1:39:55]
available. Thank you. All right.
[1:39:58]
Anyone else in Santa Barbara?
[1:39:59]
Okay. Well then we the next
[1:40:01]
meeting will be MARCH 19th,
[1:40:03]
2026, in Santa Barbara. And we
[1:40:04]
will adjourn this meeting at
[1:40:05]
this time. Thank you all for
[1:40:23]
your time. Thank you.