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this is a test.
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>> good afternoon.
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I'm going to call the May 15
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budget workshop to order.
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please call the roll.
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>> supervisor kniss, cortese,
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wassermann, vice
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President Yeager, President
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Shirakawa, you have a quorum.
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>> ladies and gentlemen please
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stand and join in the
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pledge of allegiance.
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>> I pledge of allegiance, to
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the flag of the united
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states of america and to the
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republic for which stands, one
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nation under God, indivisible,
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with liberty and justice for
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all.
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>> thank you item three is
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public comment.
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I have two speakers at this
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time.
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linda kincaid and richard
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calhoun come on up please.
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Give you a couple minutes to
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speak.
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Good afternoon.
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Hold on a second, is the mic on?
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Let's make sure the mic is on.
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>> thank you, my name is linda
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kincaid.
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I'm speaking on behalf of
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jazell. Notice of rights and
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file states unless the court
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has limited or taken the right
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of way, the conservative keeps
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right to receive personal
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mail.
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The court has not taken away
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her right to visitation.
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However, the public guardian
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has violated that right
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since becoming conservator in
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2010.
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She was allowed to visit her
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son marcus for less than 2
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hours in the past two years.
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She is not allowed visitors
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from the community.
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She is not allowed phone calls
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and her mail is
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intercepted. She lost about a
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third of her body weight
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under the care of a public
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guardian.
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She needs new eye glasses.
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she is rarely allowed access to
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hearing aid.
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Her world is dark, silent and
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very lonely.
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She pray every night that God
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take her.
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I pray santa clara county will
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protect the public
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guardian.
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>> thank you richard calhoun.
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>> good afternoon.
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The public guardian spent about
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45 minutes on the phone
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with me regarding my
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mother-in-law elder abuse case
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in
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southern california.
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They assured me that abuse will
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not happen here in
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santa clara county.
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it's happening under his direct
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control at that time of
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the conversation.
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That abuse happening in this
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county is worse.
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The county despite selling our
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house for $350,000
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recently -- she has to use
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toilet paper.
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she has to use toilet paper.
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Kleenex is not that expensive.
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We walked across the street and
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bought three boxes.
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There's something wrong.
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The pastor of westgate church
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should be able to walk
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over and visit.
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He was denied.
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I was denied visits.
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Everybody has the right to
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visits, even prisoners have
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rights to visits.
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But yet the guardian is not
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letting me visit her.
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That takes time in southern
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california, we got no
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citation approved for months.
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then you probably heard about
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it, there was conviction
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of bribery down there.
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We already have four about
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dozen investigations under
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way.
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There's probably about five or
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six here in santa clara
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county happening under your
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public guardian and you guys
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need to wake up and pay
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attention and find out we
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cannot
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visit our elders when they're
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under the care of guardian.
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That is wrong and it's abusive
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and it's a human right
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the violation and we should not
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tolerate it in this county.
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Thank you for your time.
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>> be richard, we mentioned
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before.
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We cannot engage on issues on
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this agenda.
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I don't want to gauge back and
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forth.
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for the record, our public
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guardian office does great
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work protecting those most
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vulnerable in our community.
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I understand there's issues out
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there in some of those
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homes.
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We're on top of it.
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>> I will say, we brought this
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to your attention two
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weeks ago and nobody
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communicated in any shape or
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form.
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I did hear from Mr. Cortese and
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therefore it's not
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happening. I'm sorry,
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vacations doesn't take priority
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on
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someone personal right.
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>> I understand richard, you
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will be contacted by
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staff.
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Thank you.
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Next item -- anyone else want
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to address the board?
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I have cards on other issues.
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On this item on the opening
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session.
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i see none in the room.
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Moving on to item four, vivre
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view and county executive
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fy '13 budget.
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>> Mr. President, members of
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the board.
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I like to give a little
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introduction to the proposed
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budget that we are starting to
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evaluate today.
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First slide.
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We've been discussing a
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maintenance budget for a number
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of months now and I would like
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to clarify maintenance budget
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does not mean status quo.
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What we focused on in this
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budget as we've developed
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it, is trying to not only
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maintain the services that we
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are
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providing but also change the
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style and process with which
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we provide those in order to
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reduce the cost for unit
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service.
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Then fundamentally rebuild our
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foundation which
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includes rebuilding both the
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physical and financial
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infrastructure of the county so
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that we can prepare for the
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future.
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We know that this year's
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budget, fiscal year '13, will
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give us a bit of a break from
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the more than a decade of
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reduction that the board has
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been asked to take.
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However, that brief relief will
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not last forever.
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We're preparing the
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organization for the future.
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i like to point out that
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concessions from labor had an
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enormous part in helping to
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balance this budget.
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As you remember, last year, we
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asked labor for
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concessions in the general fund
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amounting to $75 million.
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They were very difficult
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negotiations but successful.
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our partners in labor and our
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employees take great
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credit or should take credit in
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great part for this budget.
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You'll notice as you go through
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the budget, you won't
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see a line item that says $75
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million.
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All of those concessions have
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been successful and
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they're built into the object
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one cost of each department.
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As we look forward, we're
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looking at a new normal.
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There's been a lot of talk
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about in the economy lately.
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But not a new normal just
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because we don't see an
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amazing number of jobs
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returning to the nation but
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because
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at a county level, we can no
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longer rely upon state and
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federal revenue to keep pace
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with the need for services.
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Also, with healthcare reform
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changes, our hospital and
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clinic system, santa clara
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valley medical system, where we
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can no longer rely on lump sum
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supplemental payments.
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Next slide.
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we do have a bit of respite
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from deficits because in
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2012 this board took the very
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thoughtful approach of only
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using one time moneys to solve
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one time problems and not
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putting them into ongoing
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deficits.
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That has stabilized our budget
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to great extent and
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we've also noticed some
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stabilization of the economy
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around
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us with some slight up tick in
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revenues.
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However those revenues are
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typically related to public
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safety realignment.
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we've had relief from
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reductions this year.
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As a matter of fact, you'll see
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in this proposed
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budget, we're actually adding
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positions.
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Total over 300 positions.
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I will point out many of those
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positions are funded
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from other sources than the
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general fund we've looked at
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each one closelily to make sure
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that next year, fiscal year
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'14, will not be faced with a
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situation of reducing those
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positions that we're now adding.
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We think they're all justified,
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we think they are all
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critical.
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we have utilized them to try to
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rebuild our foundation.
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However this brief respite will
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give us time to refocus
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our attention in the county on
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what our core mission and
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values are.
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The board of supervisors
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adopted this mission and value
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statement over two years ago.
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We have an opportunity now to
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make sure that it spreads
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throughout the organization and
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refocus the organization on
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the values that are critical to
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our future success.
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as I mentioned in the last
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decade, we have deferred
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many capital projects and much
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maintenance in order to
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continue provide services.
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This year we have the
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opportunity as the economy
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stabilizes to begin to rebuild
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and some of recommended
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budget invest in four key
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issues.
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Number one is the retiree
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medical benefits also called
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opeb.
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Gary will give you more
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detailed discussion on this
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budget.
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We also rebuilding our
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inspection technology systems
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putting some money into a few
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of the capital projects that
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have been on hold for a long
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time.
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We're recommending some
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reserves because of the
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question marks at the state
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level that have only gotten
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larger in the last day because
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of the May revise.
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Briefly, as I mentioned gary
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will give you more details
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later, but in recent years --
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>> President Shirakawa, can I
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ask a quick information
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question?
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Where you listed epic and the
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funding sources how they
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will be spent, within there
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somewhere is an incentive bonus.
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Are you going to mention that
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at some point?
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>> yes, we will mention that.
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>> is that another time?
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>> we'll get there.
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with regard to the retiree
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medical benefits, this is a
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very significant problem.
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A decade ago, this county was
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very forward-thinking and
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unfunded the light retiree
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health.
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over the decade of cuts of
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funding to that system has
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decreased.
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At this point we're
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recommending in this budget 75%
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funding to the normal cost for
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retiree health with a
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commitment to go up to 100%.
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Normal cost is a word used to
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describe essentially what
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would be equivalent to minimum
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payment on your credit card
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not really adequate to actually
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fund the unfunded liability
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in the long run.
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But certainly a minimum and we
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think you should commit
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to that.
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We need to develop further
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strategies in the future to
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deal with that.
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Information technology, we are
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recommending some
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significant investments in
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technology and as supervisor
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kniss pointed out, with regard
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to epic, one of the
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advantages that we have is that
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we are anticipating money
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from meaningful so called
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meaningful use which is federal
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money that will help defray the
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cost of revamping the entire
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core health information system.
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we have decided to issue debt,
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technology bond for
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$100 million.
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This is not a bond that needs
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to go to the voters, this
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is a bond we paid for based
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commitment from the meaningful
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use money.
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$70 million of that will go
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towards epic.
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$20 million will go towards
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general fund I.T. Project.
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$10 million for the cost of
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issuance and contingency
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fund.
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You can see that the total cost
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of epic that's budgeted
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at $68 million, most of that
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will be from bond proceeds.
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There also be will money from
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mental health services
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act.
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These are the list of the
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general fund I.T. Projects
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that we are recommending that
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you fund.
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You'll see that all of them are
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critical function.
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on the left are the ones we
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think we can fund with the
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bond proceeds.
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They are basic enterprise
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functions that are required
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for us to move forward.
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Things like public safety
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radios, sheriff's mobile
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computers, enterprise system
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called clarinet and our
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voiceover internet protocol
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system which helps with
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communications.
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We did not add all the I.T.
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System in here.
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These are just the ones that
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are absolutely necessary.
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Additional I.T. Projects which
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will not be funded
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through the bonds include the
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assessor system, modifications
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to kronus which is our time
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sheet keeping mechanism the
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cloud system and you can see
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also public safety radios.
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The next category that we're
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recommending for
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additional foundational
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investment is capital programs.
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I won't go through all of these
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capital programs.
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Again, these are actually small
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number of the programs
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-- projects that we need to
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accomplish.
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These are the most critical
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ones and totals up to
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$13.7 million.
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Terms of budgetary reserves, as
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always, your reserve
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we're keeping at 5% general
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fund revenues.
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We're recommending a funding
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$10 million for economic
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uncertainties from the state
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and fed.
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As I mentioned, the state
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proposal particularly the
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recent May revise has a lot of
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questions associated with it.
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At this point, we're doing
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analysis to try to decide
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exactly effect it will have on
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us.
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There are cuts recommended to
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medi-cal and safety net
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hospitals.
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Actually, it looks like to the
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best of our analysis at
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this point, those cuts will not
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have an effect upon us this
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year but it certainly will have
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effect upon us next fiscal
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year.
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However, don't hold me to that
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because there's still
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details we need to straighten
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out.
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As you watch the federal budget
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process, you remember
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that there automatic trigger
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cuts that are built into the
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federal process from last year
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so we're very concerned if
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congress and President Don't
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move ahead with effective
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budget or spending plan, we
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will end up with automatic
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reductions.
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We're also recommending a small
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set aside reserve for
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cash.
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This is not money we anticipate
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spending but this will
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actually help us with our cash
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flow issues which has been
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for the last two years, an
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issue.
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>> jeff, real quick.
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Last year we had extensive
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discussion on the
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contingency reserve.
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It's not all cash.
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just take 30 seconds to remind
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us again that the
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$96 million is not all cash.
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>> yes.
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>> we don't have to have the
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discussion again.
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>> the contingency is cash.
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It's an unspent allocation or
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appropriation.
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>> assets though?
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>> no, it's a budgeted
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allocation.
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It is equivalent to cash.
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>> what you're talking about is
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that we get the revenue
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over a period of time.
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We've allocated at the
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beginning of the year so we
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don't have a big lump sum
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instantaneously sitting there.
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>> how it was described to me --
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>> it's like buying on time.
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>> right, we also had some
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assets included in there.
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We had discussions about not
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being actual liquidable
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cash.
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I just want do make it clear
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because it's a different
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what we had last year.
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>> the fund balance is part of
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a fund balance.
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It's not 100% cash but it's
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tied into other assets
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which will convert to cash over
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a period of time.
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>> right.
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I guess that was my point.
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>> that's it.
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>> when you said asset, I was
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thinking you were talking
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about tangible assets as
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opposed to assets like
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receivable.
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>> the basic bottom line,
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there's not a lot of cash
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around.
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>> we had a long discussion
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last week.
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>> thank you Mr. President.
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May I ask one question page 7.
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On page 7, the debt issuance, I
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see the $70 million,
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the $20 million and $10
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million,ed needs for
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replacement of
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that debt, how is that
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happening?
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>> technology bond comes from
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the meaningful use money
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and it's also the general fund
[21:12]
is committed to pay it back
[21:14]
also.
[21:18]
But it will come out of the 921
[21:19]
budget.
[21:21]
>> the $10 million jeff, where
[21:22]
it says cost of
[21:27]
issuance, I understand cost of
[21:27]
issuance and contingency.
[21:29]
What does that mean by
[21:30]
contingency?
[21:33]
>> it means basically that we
[21:35]
have anticipated the cost
[21:40]
of the infrastructure programs
[21:42]
in a very rough way.
[21:45]
We're not 100% sure those
[21:46]
numbers are completely
[21:47]
accurate.
[21:49]
>> construction project, you
[21:50]
got 10% contingency built
[21:51]
in.
[21:54]
Could end up with those moneys.
[21:55]
Okay thank you.
[21:59]
>> going back to page 11, a
[22:01]
little bit about valley
[22:02]
medical center and you'll hear
[22:06]
a whole lot more later on in
[22:07]
the day.
[22:09]
You'll remember from mid-year,
[22:11]
this year, this fiscal
[22:14]
year, we anticipated about a
[22:16]
$60 million current deficit.
[22:20]
We look like we're on track to
[22:21]
solve that deficit
[22:23]
problem as was mentioned in
[22:27]
health and hospital last week.
[22:29]
We also had to commit $30
[22:30]
million from the general fund
[22:34]
in order to deal with that.
[22:36]
Now, as we've known and
[22:41]
mentioned many times in the
[22:42]
past, the 921 fund, the
[22:44]
enterprise fund is a very
[22:45]
difficult
[22:51]
fund to project because it's
[22:58]
contingent revenue.
[22:59]
Contingent on visits and mix of
[23:01]
patients and lot of
[23:01]
other issue.
[23:04]
We have many billing problems
[23:05]
associated with that.
[23:08]
even though we look like we're
[23:11]
solving this problem, we
[23:13]
do expect some bounces back and
[23:16]
forth over the next couple
[23:17]
of months.
[23:20]
You might see in the financial
[23:21]
things going up and down
[23:23]
but we think that in the end,
[23:28]
we'll end up balancing.
[23:31]
the recommended budget for this
[23:33]
coming year, for 2013,
[23:35]
we looked at very carefully.
[23:38]
You'll notice that it does
[23:41]
include significant
[23:44]
projections of new revenue.
[23:46]
The county execs office and I
[23:47]
know the board has been
[23:50]
concerned about the past about
[23:54]
projecting new revenue.
[23:54]
However, it is a revenue
[23:55]
generating enterprise fund and
[23:58]
that's a critical component of
[24:00]
the -- patient care revenue
[24:03]
is a critical component for the
[24:04]
overall picture.
[24:05]
We had to project something.
[24:10]
we looked very carefully trying
[24:14]
to come up conservative
[24:15]
projections based on experience
[24:15]
in 2012.
[24:17]
We think they are justifiable
[24:18]
and reasonable and we
[24:20]
think they will be obtained.
[24:23]
We also focused on work
[24:24]
process changes, schedule
[24:25]
changes and patient access
[24:26]
changes
[24:29]
in order to increase revenue.
[24:33]
then the final comment, if the
[24:37]
projections end up not
[24:38]
being accurate, we will have a
[24:42]
plan b to you which will
[24:45]
actually decrease expenditures
[24:46]
significantly.
[24:49]
We plan this year on watching
[24:51]
the revenue in the county
[24:55]
execs office on a monthly basis.
[24:58]
We will keep close track of
[24:59]
those revenues and any
[25:05]
projections that look off, we
[25:08]
will address immediately.
[25:10]
Again, to reemphasize the risks
[25:15]
that are associated
[25:17]
with this budget, there are
[25:18]
always risks associated with
[25:18]
any
[25:19]
budget.
[25:21]
The budget is really projected
[25:22]
spending plan and
[25:22]
revenue plan.
[25:25]
The projections are based on
[25:26]
assumptions.
[25:27]
Those assumptions can change.
[25:30]
We need to let you know what
[25:31]
the risks are.
[25:33]
In terms of healthcare reform,
[25:33]
you know that the
[25:37]
supreme court is in the process
[25:39]
of reviewing healthcare
[25:39]
reform act.
[25:41]
It's pretty much anybody's
[25:44]
guess what they'll do if
[25:49]
they were to reverse the act
[25:51]
significantly, that would
[25:53]
definitely cause chaos and make
[25:54]
funding really unpredictable
[25:55]
at the local level.
[25:57]
We also have our own local
[26:01]
problems, which I just went
[26:03]
through at vmc that essentially
[26:05]
boils down to turning the
[26:08]
entire organization into a
[26:08]
competitive organization
[26:08]
compared
[26:12]
to what has been in the past
[26:15]
which relied upon lump sum
[26:16]
revenues.
[26:19]
Other local risks, I mentioned
[26:19]
earlier on, the
[26:21]
$35 million that's built into
[26:23]
this budget for labor
[26:23]
concession.
[26:26]
Remember that this coming year,
[26:29]
2013, is when the
[26:32]
nurses, dsa and the district
[26:34]
attorney investigators
[26:37]
contracts open up and we
[26:41]
programmed into this budget the
[26:42]
expected concessions from those
[26:44]
unions.
[26:47]
If we are not successful in
[26:48]
obtaining those concessions
[26:49]
that will be a problem we would
[26:55]
have to address with more
[26:58]
reductions.
[26:59]
We also are expecting increase
[27:02]
retirement cost this
[27:03]
coming year 2013.
[27:07]
These retirement costs will
[27:07]
come out of our general
[27:07]
fund.
[27:09]
We will not ask the employees
[27:12]
to contribute to any of
[27:13]
that.
[27:15]
We will also have the risk of
[27:16]
the retiree health which
[27:17]
will be discussed in a little
[27:18]
bit.
[27:21]
I think I talked about state
[27:21]
and federal issues enough
[27:26]
so we can move on to the next
[27:27]
page.
[27:28]
>> supervisor kniss had a
[27:28]
question.
[27:35]
>> on this one in particular
[27:36]
jeff, because, ken and i
[27:39]
said on health and hospital.
[27:41]
We spent substantial amount of
[27:43]
time especially with
[27:43]
washington consultants
[27:44]
discussing the supreme court
[27:47]
decision.
[27:48]
You referenced chaos.
[27:50]
I think more than chaos will
[27:50]
ensue.
[27:54]
I'm not sure that we need to do
[27:55]
this right away.
[28:02]
i think we should at least be
[28:03]
very technical term,
[28:04]
noodling what happens.
[28:05]
It's a three part decision
[28:07]
they're making.
[28:09]
The first one would essentially
[28:10]
not require states to
[28:13]
have health insurance.
[28:18]
That begins to alter the entire
[28:18]
thing.
[28:20]
That's one of the thing that we
[28:22]
have been the most
[28:22]
concerned about.
[28:25]
Then as you know, the question
[28:27]
will secondly be, can
[28:29]
they separate different parts
[28:33]
of the law and maintain other
[28:35]
parts.
[28:37]
I think you're right.
[28:39]
It's a toss up at this point.
[28:40]
It's probably up to one,
[28:43]
believe it or not, probably up
[28:44]
to one justice which is quite
[28:45]
significant.
[28:48]
I don't want us to lose the
[28:51]
importance of that and that
[28:54]
decision being made and also
[28:57]
that there is a saying this is
[28:58]
correctly as I can.
[29:01]
There is a group in washington
[29:03]
who very much had it as
[29:07]
their goal to eliminate the new
[29:10]
healthcare law should the
[29:11]
administration change starting
[29:12]
next year.
[29:16]
Again, we can't be aware and
[29:21]
ready for all
[29:21]
contingencies.
[29:23]
but at least, because I know
[29:26]
that folks like gary are
[29:27]
very good of kind of thinking
[29:29]
ahead on this kind of issue.
[29:31]
I hope that we're keeping that
[29:32]
in mind.
[29:36]
That will be a rather dramatic
[29:36]
alteration for where we
[29:37]
have been heading.
[29:40]
It wipes out that meaningful
[29:41]
use and dsrip whatever we
[29:45]
will use for it.
[29:46]
It's considerably alters that
[29:47]
for the future
[29:49]
>> yes, you're right.
[29:52]
We have been noodling on it.
[29:57]
Sort of standard logic in state
[30:00]
of california has been
[30:03]
that whatever the supreme court
[30:04]
does, they won't invalidate
[30:06]
the waiver and the waiver has
[30:09]
been structured as a bridge to
[30:10]
reform.
[30:13]
However, we're seeing with the
[30:15]
governor's proposal this
[30:17]
year in the May revise, there's
[30:21]
actually local effort to
[30:22]
change the waiver.
[30:27]
if the federal law changed,
[30:29]
it's quite possible the
[30:30]
state might change its mind too.
[30:32]
>> as long as we're not caught
[30:33]
off guard.
[30:34]
I know you won't be.
[30:36]
I think it's also important for
[30:37]
us to say that in
[30:38]
public and on the record that
[30:41]
we are very aware of what
[30:44]
those just what you call them
[30:49]
risks and threats are that are
[30:51]
out here.
[30:53]
Cause us all kinds of heartache
[30:57]
as a county.
[31:02]
Of course, the $16 billion
[31:02]
surprise I think it's
[31:05]
sobering for all of us.
[31:06]
Thanks george.
[31:09]
>> okay.
[31:11]
Page 13.
[31:16]
We talked about restoration of
[31:18]
personnel.
[31:21]
There are issues having to do
[31:22]
with bit rebuilding and
[31:23]
financial infrastructure.
[31:25]
You will see there are
[31:25]
additions back to fleet and
[31:28]
facility to deal with our
[31:29]
increasing space.
[31:30]
Additions back to employee
[31:32]
services to deal with many
[31:35]
of our workload issues and
[31:36]
additions back to social
[31:38]
services
[31:40]
to deal with inhome supportive
[31:42]
services and senior
[31:43]
nutrition, which have not been
[31:44]
performing as well as we
[31:50]
would like without those
[31:50]
resources.
[31:52]
This is a summary of our one
[31:53]
time funds.
[31:55]
I won't go into it in detail
[31:59]
but you can see basically
[32:02]
that we're committing again to
[32:02]
the 5% contingency.
[32:06]
We have built in there the
[32:08]
commitment to -- the
[32:10]
repayment of loan from retiree
[32:12]
health that was utilized to
[32:14]
purchase the downtown clinic
[32:15]
site.
[32:19]
We built in here the sale of
[32:22]
the children's shelter and
[32:25]
we're spending that money on
[32:26]
issues related to children.
[32:33]
that will be on your agenda
[32:33]
later on today.
[32:35]
We'll give you much more detail
[32:37]
about public safety
[32:38]
realignment during the entire
[32:40]
process but, I wanted to point
[32:42]
out that santa clara county has
[32:45]
been recognized across the
[32:47]
state developing the most
[32:49]
innovative ab109 plan available.
[32:51]
we've been very successful in
[32:56]
it at this point with
[32:56]
reduced recidivism.
[32:58]
We have not seen a dramatic
[33:00]
increase, even significant
[33:03]
increase in our jail population.
[33:05]
Although there are mixed
[33:06]
population and the population
[33:08]
is changing a bit towards the
[33:09]
more serious offenders.
[33:11]
This budget assumes that our
[33:12]
allocation will
[33:14]
effectively be doubled.
[33:17]
The formula has been in the
[33:18]
works with negotiations
[33:21]
between c sac and the state.
[33:22]
We're seeing preliminary
[33:23]
numbers which suggest that it
[33:30]
will be at least doubled and
[33:32]
we're therefore planning to
[33:35]
spend on probation and public
[33:38]
safety services commensurate
[33:38]
with that.
[33:41]
We're going to have a new
[33:42]
population.
[33:43]
We expect the state will
[33:45]
continue with its commitment
[33:49]
to fund our services to this
[33:50]
new population.
[33:52]
It is true that there is no
[33:53]
guarantee at this point
[33:56]
that this funding will come
[34:01]
through without some more
[34:02]
attached requirements.
[34:05]
I wanted to highlight one part
[34:07]
of the budget that we
[34:08]
have relied upon for the last
[34:10]
two years now.
[34:13]
That is the center for
[34:15]
leadership and transformation.
[34:16]
We've focused on trying to
[34:18]
change the way that we
[34:20]
actually do business and we've
[34:21]
had great success with
[34:22]
empowering our employees to
[34:25]
look at their jobs differently,
[34:30]
to improve performance, to
[34:31]
focus on customers and
[34:32]
transforming the workforce so
[34:34]
that people can lead from the
[34:38]
middle as they say.
[34:39]
So far, there are 39 teens
[34:40]
currently working on
[34:42]
projects which have saved us
[34:45]
well over millions of dollars.
[34:47]
You'll even see in your budget
[34:51]
book, break out of all
[34:52]
of those teams.
[34:54]
these are the milestone dates
[34:58]
for this budget process.
[35:00]
We're currently starting the
[35:02]
budget workshop.
[35:04]
Last day for submission
[35:06]
budgetary items will be the
[35:08]
29th.
[35:10]
We're starting our hearings on
[35:11]
the 7th.
[35:13]
We expect to be done by the 5th
[35:17]
and then our final
[35:19]
meeting after that to approve
[35:21]
the entire process.
[35:26]
I'm open to any questions that
[35:30]
you might have.
[35:32]
>> so, just on this one jeff,
[35:37]
the center for leadership
[35:43]
and transformation is
[35:44]
transformative.
[35:46]
I wonder if we have looked yet
[35:47]
at finding ways.
[35:50]
I know I seen it mentioned
[35:51]
occasionally but finding
[35:55]
ways to let the public know the
[35:57]
kinds of differences we have
[35:57]
made.
[35:59]
some of you know, I was in
[36:02]
pittsburgh at the end of
[36:04]
last week and it was a
[36:08]
conference put on in order to
[36:08]
talk
[36:09]
about transformation.
[36:12]
It happen to concentrate on
[36:13]
pittsburgh where we were.
[36:16]
Pittsburgh as in pennsylvania
[36:17]
and not california.
[36:18]
the transformation that has
[36:20]
taken place there and I
[36:24]
never been there before, they
[36:25]
certainly showed a great demo
[36:29]
of what it used to look like.
[36:31]
Many of you remember in the
[36:33]
past, the three rivers
[36:35]
there will catch on fire for
[36:36]
the incredible amount of
[36:36]
pollution.
[36:37]
Transformation is so powerful
[36:39]
that it really turning
[36:41]
that city around.
[36:43]
I think you can make an
[36:45]
argument for this in this
[36:48]
county and let our employees as
[36:50]
well as those live in the
[36:55]
county know that we have done
[36:58]
this because, if I'm going to
[37:00]
accept all that you say as
[37:03]
gospel and so forth, it would
[37:03]
be
[37:07]
great to see a series in the
[37:09]
murk that talks about what were
[37:11]
the differences that came about.
[37:12]
We made substantial investment
[37:13]
in this.
[37:16]
We involved stanford at a very
[37:17]
high level and I think
[37:21]
it's a wonderful opportunity to
[37:24]
show how we use county money
[37:26]
in different way to save a good
[37:30]
deal of money and also to
[37:32]
motivate and transform some of
[37:34]
our employees.
[37:37]
Just a thought.
[37:40]
>> well, in this year's budget
[37:42]
message, pages 9-18,
[37:44]
we've gone through all of the
[37:45]
current projects that are in
[37:46]
place.
[37:47]
You're right, it hasn't gotten
[37:48]
out as much to the
[37:54]
public as we would like.
[37:57]
We had a couple comments in the
[37:58]
newspaper but and we
[38:01]
put out a number of press
[38:04]
releases that don't typically
[38:04]
get
[38:05]
picked up.
[38:08]
We have this on our website
[38:09]
both our internal website
[38:11]
and our external website.
[38:12]
This year, will give us a
[38:16]
chance to refocus on getting
[38:17]
the message out.
[38:21]
>> a series was highlighted in
[38:21]
some departments.
[38:25]
some person putting a face on
[38:28]
it, can be very
[38:29]
influential.
[38:31]
Whenever I travel, there always
[38:32]
certain counties that
[38:35]
stick out including yours.
[38:40]
Fun to do that.
[38:46]
>> perfect.
[38:48]
>> supervisor cortese.
[38:52]
>> page 11 of the slides, you
[38:54]
went through this, that
[38:56]
page closes talking about a
[38:59]
plan b under development and
[39:04]
possibly revenue materialize as
[39:06]
planned.
[39:06]
Under development, can you
[39:10]
expand on that a little bit
[39:11]
more?
[39:13]
I don't know where is it at and
[39:15]
when will we hear more
[39:15]
about it?
[39:20]
Presumably if we were going to
[39:21]
have a contingency plan,
[39:23]
woe would have it ready before
[39:25]
the project develop and not
[39:26]
after.
[39:27]
I'm just wondering when is that
[39:27]
going to be
[39:32]
forthcoming.
[39:34]
I'm also wondering if any of
[39:35]
the thinking this board
[39:37]
asked to have looked at in
[39:38]
terms of areas where there can
[39:39]
be
[39:42]
a firewall between the general
[39:44]
fund and the enterprise fund.
[39:46]
i know we received some legal
[39:47]
advice as to where we
[39:50]
can't do that but we haven't
[39:53]
seen anything come forward
[39:54]
trying to make suggestions in
[39:57]
the areas where we can do
[39:58]
that.
[40:00]
>> let me try to take those two
[40:02]
questions one at a
[40:02]
time.
[40:06]
Number one, in terms of
[40:10]
developing a plan b, we don't
[40:11]
have that plan to the point
[40:12]
where we would be prepared to
[40:16]
put it out in the public.
[40:20]
The only other approach to
[40:23]
unrealized revenue is to
[40:23]
reduce expenditures.
[40:25]
There are a number of programs
[40:26]
in the health and
[40:29]
hospital system which are not
[40:30]
absolutely mandated.
[40:32]
Certainly not mandated to the
[40:36]
level that we provide
[40:37]
them.
[40:39]
If indeed we were unable to
[40:41]
meet revenues, we'd have to
[40:48]
start looking at those services.
[40:51]
They typically are specialty
[40:53]
type services and other
[40:56]
support services. That will be
[40:57]
in significant reductions.
[40:58]
Obviously, none of us want to
[40:59]
do that.
[41:01]
Therefore, we trying to project
[41:04]
a budget here we think
[41:05]
is very conservative and
[41:05]
rational.
[41:08]
In the midst of healthcare
[41:10]
reform, it is not the time
[41:13]
to be reducing services but as
[41:14]
you well know, the budget has
[41:21]
to balance one way or the other.
[41:25]
We are in contingency planning.
[41:26]
We will bring that forward when
[41:28]
we feel like it's ready
[41:29]
to be public.
[41:33]
in terms of the second answer
[41:36]
or second question about
[41:39]
a firewall, as you know, the
[41:43]
board does have constitutional
[41:46]
obligations under 17,000 to
[41:47]
provide healthcare for
[41:47]
medically
[41:49]
injured in the county.
[41:56]
we provide far more than that.
[41:59]
But, there is no legal
[42:01]
structural way to actually
[42:03]
prevent the expenditure of
[42:04]
money on that program.
[42:10]
It really boils down to setting
[42:11]
up systems -- policy
[42:15]
and commitments in the board
[42:16]
policy area that will restrict
[42:18]
how much money gets moved from
[42:20]
the general fund.
[42:22]
At this point, I know that
[42:23]
county council has been
[42:29]
working on some of those ideas.
[42:32]
we are targeting in this budget
[42:36]
trying to keep the
[42:38]
general fund subsidy below the
[42:41]
10% range of the entire
[42:42]
expenditure.
[42:44]
I think you'll see that we are
[42:45]
successful in that with
[42:48]
some leeway.
[42:50]
When I started 2.5 years ago,s
[42:53]
general fund subsidy was
[42:54]
about $220 million.
[42:57]
This budget envisions it to be
[43:00]
about $85.5 million.
[43:01]
That's a significant reduction
[43:03]
without significant
[43:05]
reduction in services.
[43:08]
I obviously can't take the
[43:08]
credit for that.
[43:10]
The hospital should take the
[43:11]
credit for that.
[43:15]
they done a fabulous job of
[43:18]
improving their efficiency
[43:20]
and effectiveness.
[43:24]
That's a good step forward
[43:27]
indicating that we are
[43:28]
making significant progress.
[43:31]
>> if you measure that by board
[43:33]
presidency, we've all
[43:35]
done well, President Shirakawa
[43:37]
you just have $85 million
[43:38]
more to go.
[43:43]
[Laughter] I want to get this
[43:45]
clear so it doesn't get
[43:46]
-- probably will anyway --
[43:49]
perhaps it doesn't get
[43:49]
misprinted
[43:51]
somewhere by some opinion
[43:52]
maker. I'm not suggesting nor
[43:52]
do
[43:56]
i hear the board suggest that
[43:57]
we do anything other than
[44:00]
guarantee the 17,000
[44:00]
commitments.
[44:04]
When you present it to us last
[44:06]
year, what the hospital
[44:07]
system was spending money on,
[44:14]
that piece of it is a less
[44:16]
than 10% of the total hospital
[44:16]
budget.
[44:18]
It seem to me we can guarantee
[44:20]
that piece and still
[44:23]
have awful lot of attitude in
[44:28]
term of where we prohibit
[44:28]
ourselves moving money back and
[44:29]
forth.
[44:31]
I'm only suggesting under this
[44:32]
plan b scenario.
[44:34]
I'm coming into this process
[44:35]
more than willing to
[44:41]
support this plan at this point
[44:45]
of half revenue solution and
[44:47]
half subsidy solutions.
[44:51]
Currently plan b -- we all have
[44:53]
concern to have in
[44:54]
place.
[44:58]
i'm actually thanking you for
[44:59]
that.
[45:04]
>> you're correct on both parts.
[45:05]
We do have more flexibility
[45:06]
without reducing services
[45:10]
to reduce our costs.
[45:12]
We can actually increase
[45:16]
services and reduce our cost.
[45:18]
we're making progress there and
[45:19]
that will be our
[45:20]
directive.
[45:23]
Like you say, if we can't meet
[45:25]
it, we will then have to
[45:26]
start thinking about what we
[45:27]
can do without.
[45:31]
>> to the chair, again, not to
[45:34]
be misunderstood, I was
[45:36]
joking with regard to the
[45:37]
credit with the board President.
[45:39]
i do agree that employees are
[45:41]
the ones who have done
[45:42]
this.
[45:43]
There's no way five supervisors
[45:45]
or senior staff can go
[45:47]
out and manage an operation and
[45:52]
bring numbers into alignment
[45:57]
like that.
[45:57]
That's understood.
[45:58]
thank you.
[46:03]
>> anyone else on this section?
[46:04]
Thank you jeff.
[46:05]
Item five is overview of
[46:07]
funding status of the county
[46:11]
retiree medical benefit program.
[46:13]
>> george I'm taking my share
[46:13]
of time this year.
[46:19]
this is my last year.
[46:20]
I get special privileges.
[46:22]
I'm sitting here thinking that
[46:26]
when I first got here in
[46:27]
2001, the budget was quite
[46:30]
robust.
[46:31]
You remember gary, believe it
[46:35]
or not, they were called
[46:38]
funds supervisors had to offer
[46:40]
to their own district.
[46:43]
The next year that wasn't the
[46:44]
case.
[46:46]
By 2003 it was dismal.
[46:47]
It has been dismal for at least
[46:48]
nine or ten years.
[46:50]
It is amazing to be doing a
[46:53]
budget where we're not
[46:54]
discussing how awful it will
[46:55]
be, how terrible the year will
[46:58]
be, how many test we'll have to
[46:58]
make.
[47:04]
i think you're both to be
[47:08]
commended.
[47:12]
It seemed kind of jerky at
[47:12]
times.
[47:14]
Hard word, kind of a stop and
[47:15]
start.
[47:18]
Think we've gotten to an
[47:20]
unusually good spot given
[47:24]
where many other counties are.
[47:26]
Where much of california
[47:27]
doesn't enjoy the privilege
[47:30]
we're having this year of
[47:31]
looking at a budget that
[47:32]
doesn't
[47:34]
have as many challenges that it
[47:35]
has before.
[47:37]
I just don't -- it would not be
[47:38]
there if we didn't call
[47:41]
that out and say, good job.
[47:45]
i can look back over 11.5 years
[47:45]
at this point.
[47:50]
It's been a lot of those times
[47:50]
very rocky.
[47:52]
I thank you and I'm sure whole
[47:54]
board joins me in that.
[47:54]
>> thank you.
[47:56]
>> you better keep up the good
[47:57]
work.
[47:59]
>> well, we will.
[48:00]
It's only because of fabulous
[48:03]
employees and mary and
[48:05]
leslie and gary and department
[48:10]
heads who and all of their
[48:12]
finance people who do yohman's
[48:13]
job and they're here late
[48:15]
nights and making sure
[48:16]
everything adds up.
[48:16]
Thank you for recognizing that.
[48:19]
>> by the way, we are waiting
[48:20]
until January for
[48:26]
reinstated some of those funds
[48:34]
from the districts.
[48:35]
>> thank you Mr. President.
[48:38]
We wanted to provide you with
[48:43]
an overview of the issue
[49:05]
of the opeb retiree benefit.
[49:09]
First slide.
[49:10]
The second slide -- I'm going
[49:11]
to go through this
[49:19]
quickly because there's a lot of
[49:19]
contextual information.
[49:21]
The important thing about this
[49:22]
slide it outlines the
[49:24]
benefit we provide employees by
[49:28]
no means it's all retiree
[49:30]
medical benefit, the most
[49:31]
generous and no way that's the
[49:31]
case.
[49:34]
We only provide the benefit if
[49:39]
you retire from the
[49:40]
county, if you've met five up
[49:41]
to ten year continue of
[49:42]
service in order to get the
[49:43]
benefit.
[49:47]
also we only pay equal to the
[49:47]
geyser premium.
[49:50]
At the same time, that being
[49:55]
said, this is an expensive
[49:55]
benefit.
[49:56]
Next slide provide you with
[49:57]
some perspectives in terms
[50:02]
of how things have changed.
[50:04]
To give you some perspective,
[50:07]
the county began
[50:11]
prefunding this benefit in 1984.
[50:14]
We wanted very few organizes
[50:15]
that did studies to
[50:16]
determine what we needed to put
[50:18]
into this program in order
[50:20]
to fully fund it.
[50:25]
Since that time, there has been
[50:27]
a variety of changes.
[50:29]
2008, new requirements,
[50:34]
required the reporting of the
[50:41]
unfunded actuarial liability.
[50:44]
It requires dedicated assets to
[50:46]
be placed in
[50:48]
irrevokable trust.
[50:53]
The county did open a trust in
[50:56]
cal pers in indicate
[50:58]
2008.
[51:02]
The board approved those
[51:04]
funding. We ended up
[51:05]
suspended contributions in 2010
[51:08]
when we were really dealing
[51:10]
with our cash flow crisis.
[51:13]
That's the reason why in this
[51:16]
year, we are recommending
[51:18]
to increase our contribution to
[51:19]
this benefit program.
[51:21]
Also it's important to point
[51:26]
out that beginning in
[51:29]
2012, we did negotiate, some of
[51:30]
the employees contributing
[51:35]
directly to the cost of retiree
[51:35]
health.
[51:39]
Next slide provide you with
[51:39]
some definitions that might
[51:41]
be helpful for you in terms of
[51:43]
identifying how retiree
[51:44]
medical benefits are funded and
[51:46]
it gives a little
[51:49]
description, pay as you go.
[51:51]
Really only covers the current
[51:56]
period cost for current
[51:57]
retirees. The normal cost is
[51:59]
pay as you go.
[52:00]
Plus we're funding the cost of
[52:02]
benefits for future
[52:03]
retirees.
[52:07]
This is referred tos a partial
[52:08]
refunding, the arc,
[52:10]
which is the annual required
[52:12]
contribution is a normal cost
[52:16]
plus we're also making payments
[52:17]
on the unfunded liability.
[52:20]
This is substantial amount of
[52:20]
payments that ideally we
[52:22]
can reach but when you see the
[52:25]
figures, you can see what a
[52:27]
challenge that will be.
[52:30]
the next slide is a graphic
[52:33]
representation of the value
[52:35]
of these funding methodologies
[52:39]
and as you can see, the arc
[52:43]
currently is in the range of
[52:43]
around $170 million, which is
[52:47]
way above what we're currently
[52:47]
funding.
[52:48]
To the extent to which we do
[52:51]
not pay for the unfunded
[52:53]
liability, as you can see the
[52:55]
trend will increase over time.
[52:59]
These are annual costs.
[53:01]
The next slide gives you a
[53:02]
summary of where we are in
[53:05]
the funding of this program.
[53:08]
The amount that we have
[53:11]
contributed to the irrevokable
[53:13]
trust is $252 million opinion
[53:17]
we are still retaining in our
[53:18]
county funds $163 million.
[53:20]
These are funds that were
[53:23]
originally anticipated to be
[53:24]
transferred to their
[53:24]
irrevokable trust.
[53:26]
We've hold on to them base on
[53:27]
our concerns around cash
[53:29]
flow.
[53:31]
The retiree health trust fund
[53:32]
is a major source.
[53:36]
i think if you recall, we have
[53:37]
about $250 million worth
[53:38]
of play.
[53:42]
I got amount of 160 is retiree
[53:44]
health trust fund.
[53:46]
During the 2009, '10 time frame
[53:50]
when the economy was in
[53:51]
a chaotic state, we felt it was
[53:54]
very important to maintain
[53:57]
that flexibility in cash as was
[53:58]
discussed with the board.
[54:03]
As time has moved on, we're
[54:04]
feeling little more
[54:06]
comfortable in starting to
[54:10]
transfer funds out of the
[54:10]
retiree
[54:11]
health trust fund and that's
[54:12]
went recommendations we're
[54:14]
making in the current year.
[54:16]
Now the number that's startling
[54:18]
and of concern to us is
[54:23]
in fact our actuarial accrued
[54:24]
liability which is now
[54:25]
exceeding $2 billion.
[54:33]
Believe it or not, in 1999, the
[54:33]
actuarial accrueded
[54:35]
liability was $69 million.
[54:36]
So it increased substantially
[54:37]
based on a variety of
[54:40]
factors that I will touch on.
[54:44]
Again, the next slide gives you
[54:50]
a since of how the
[54:50]
unfunded actuarial accrueded
[54:53]
liability has changed over the
[54:53]
last 12 years.
[54:55]
That growth has been
[54:56]
significant as our
[54:57]
contributions
[55:00]
really have been limited again.
[55:02]
We did that in order to really
[55:03]
protect our services.
[55:04]
It's a decision that was
[55:07]
difficult but one that I think
[55:09]
we stand behind because
[55:12]
clearly, our mission is to
[55:12]
provide
[55:13]
service.
[55:15]
I think looking back, it was
[55:16]
the right thing to do.
[55:21]
The next slide provides you
[55:23]
with some more recent
[55:25]
information about our
[55:26]
contributions.
[55:29]
In 2008 and 2009, we
[55:31]
contributed 100% of our arc.
[55:32]
That was possible because we
[55:33]
utilized the retiree
[55:34]
health trust fund in addition
[55:37]
to what we budgeted to meet
[55:39]
100% of those costs.
[55:41]
As our deficits grew and we had
[55:42]
fewer and fewer
[55:46]
options, we made the decision
[55:47]
to reduce those expenditures
[55:52]
and as you can see, the amount
[55:53]
we contributed declined.
[55:55]
So, at this point in time, one
[55:57]
of the things that we're
[55:59]
recommending is to increase our
[56:02]
contribution in terms of our
[56:04]
ongoing funds from 50% of the
[56:07]
normal cost to 75% and then
[56:10]
make up that difference to get
[56:11]
to 100% gi beginning to
[56:14]
transfer from the retiree
[56:17]
health trust fun to the
[56:17]
irrevokable trust.
[56:19]
We begin drawing down reducing
[56:22]
the amount in the
[56:25]
retiree health trust fund by
[56:26]
relatively small amount.
[56:29]
We obviously will not go too
[56:31]
far too fast because we're
[56:32]
not 100% confident in the
[56:33]
economy.
[56:37]
The next slide provides you
[56:39]
with again, a graphical
[56:41]
representation about the
[56:42]
estimated future unfunded
[56:43]
liability
[56:45]
based on the three funding
[56:46]
mechanisms.
[56:49]
Our goal is to again, reach
[56:50]
that 100% of normal cost
[56:52]
and then as possible, try to
[56:55]
begin paying some of that
[57:00]
unfunded liability depending on
[57:01]
circumstances.
[57:03]
the next slide provides some
[57:06]
information regarding why
[57:09]
the unfunded liability has
[57:11]
grown so quickly. Retiree
[57:11]
health
[57:14]
is very sensitive to rise in
[57:14]
health insurance premiums.
[57:17]
That's a problem we face not
[57:18]
only here but of course in our
[57:19]
regular health premiums.
[57:21]
We see substantial growth and
[57:23]
even though they are not
[57:24]
in the double didn't range as
[57:26]
they had been in prior years,
[57:29]
they are still growing
[57:29]
significantly.
[57:31]
The increase number of
[57:33]
employees in retirees when we
[57:40]
look at this from a actuarial
[57:41]
perspective, has an impact on
[57:43]
that.
[57:45]
the funding strategy as I
[57:48]
mentioned, the more we put
[57:51]
into it, the limits the growth
[57:52]
of unfunded liability and
[57:53]
also the investment return rate.
[57:56]
All of those things have been
[57:57]
challenged by the economy
[58:02]
over the last several years.
[58:05]
the next slide provides some of
[58:07]
the things -- some of
[58:09]
the strategies that we're
[58:10]
thinking about and certainly
[58:10]
it's
[58:13]
important to note that these
[58:14]
are all subject to labor
[58:15]
contract negotiations.
[58:17]
These are not things that we
[58:19]
would implement.
[58:21]
Unilaterally but they will be
[58:23]
part of our contract
[58:24]
negotiations.
[58:25]
things that we can do for
[58:27]
instance would be to cap
[58:28]
county contributions.
[58:32]
We could reduce benefit
[58:33]
coverage levels.
[58:38]
Introduce a health saving
[58:38]
account option.
[58:40]
And on and on.
[58:43]
There are ways in which we can
[58:47]
address this obviously,
[58:52]
mistakes obvious --
[58:54]
this is something we have to
[58:55]
address.
[58:58]
The next step on the last
[59:00]
slide, what we are suggesting
[59:02]
we do is to create an
[59:03]
administrative steering
[59:04]
committee for
[59:08]
the retiree health benefit to
[59:10]
study best practices and to
[59:12]
develop options for
[59:15]
presentation to the board.
[59:18]
Obviously we want to obtain
[59:20]
input from our county and
[59:22]
labor organizations.
[59:24]
So that we can provide
[59:26]
information and get feedback in
[59:29]
terms of what this all means
[59:31]
and how best to proceed.
[59:36]
Our time frame is to study this
[59:39]
in the upcoming fiscal
[59:41]
year 2013 and to discuss with
[59:43]
the board probably through the
[59:44]
finance committee and the full
[59:47]
board as we look at the
[59:48]
budget for fiscal year 2014.
[59:50]
Once again, we're making a very
[59:52]
positive step this year
[59:55]
in terms of getting to 100%
[59:56]
normal cost.
[59:58]
Our goal will be to try to put
[1:00:01]
together a plan in terms
[1:00:03]
of how we can address and
[1:00:05]
approach these funding issues
[1:00:05]
as
[1:00:06]
we move forward.
[1:00:10]
with that, I would be happy to
[1:00:11]
answer any questions.
[1:00:13]
>> supervisor cortese and then
[1:00:14]
wasserman.
[1:00:17]
>> first of all, thank you very
[1:00:19]
much for including this
[1:00:21]
as a major component of the
[1:00:23]
study session.
[1:00:24]
It's helpful and it's probably
[1:00:27]
been on a lot of our
[1:00:28]
minds wherever we sit here in
[1:00:32]
the county in terms of roles
[1:00:33]
given the conversation that's
[1:00:35]
going on externally over the
[1:00:35]
years.
[1:00:44]
I know we were all aware of
[1:00:44]
abstaining the funding
[1:00:45]
effort.
[1:00:49]
one of the questions I have is
[1:00:52]
probably in the a real
[1:00:52]
question per se.
[1:00:56]
In the list of things that
[1:00:59]
could be negotiated, there
[1:00:59]
could be ideas.
[1:01:03]
To what extent can we as a
[1:01:06]
county given our capacities
[1:01:07]
connected to the healthcare
[1:01:07]
system?
[1:01:10]
at least attempt to bargain to
[1:01:14]
bring people into our
[1:01:18]
own health plans in order to
[1:01:23]
sort of mitigate what I would
[1:01:25]
call a victimization of local
[1:01:26]
governments by big insurance
[1:01:27]
companies that we have no
[1:01:28]
control over.
[1:01:32]
i'm wondering if it's worth
[1:01:32]
discussing?
[1:01:33]
I'm not trying to bargain from
[1:01:34]
here.
[1:01:37]
I need to see it up there as a
[1:01:37]
bullet point.
[1:01:39]
I didn't know if that's because
[1:01:41]
there's not much gained
[1:01:42]
or because it's a collective
[1:01:44]
bargaining issue.
[1:01:46]
>> I would speak -- one thing I
[1:01:50]
would say is there are
[1:01:51]
limitations.
[1:01:53]
i think that this is something
[1:01:54]
that's been looked at
[1:01:55]
before.
[1:01:57]
In fact, was challenged and so
[1:01:59]
there are limitations in
[1:02:03]
terms of to what extent we can
[1:02:04]
do that.
[1:02:05]
I think that's about all I
[1:02:06]
would say on it.
[1:02:09]
>> I would add a little bit.
[1:02:12]
last year we went forward with
[1:02:16]
trying to make our
[1:02:18]
internal system, vhp more
[1:02:20]
attractive by expanding the
[1:02:23]
network and making it a more
[1:02:24]
attractive product for our
[1:02:25]
employee.
[1:02:26]
There's still we need to do in
[1:02:27]
that respect.
[1:02:29]
Gary is right, we can't really
[1:02:30]
mandate that employees
[1:02:32]
take one system or another but
[1:02:36]
we can make it more
[1:02:37]
attractive.
[1:02:39]
We have seen significant
[1:02:39]
transfer.
[1:02:43]
I think it's up to 700 or 800
[1:02:48]
or something like that.
[1:02:48]
1100.
[1:02:54]
1100 of people transferred over.
[1:02:54]
That makes fairly significant
[1:02:56]
dent.
[1:02:59]
That helps us a lot because
[1:03:01]
every dollar that we pay
[1:03:04]
for health premiums it goes to
[1:03:04]
vhp.
[1:03:08]
Stays within the county system
[1:03:10]
and allows us to have
[1:03:13]
the flexibility to improve our
[1:03:14]
health system, delivery
[1:03:14]
system.
[1:03:16]
Whereas, every dollar that goes
[1:03:18]
to kaiser or health net
[1:03:19]
goes outside of the county and
[1:03:20]
helps them develop their
[1:03:22]
system.
[1:03:26]
>> it seems like that alone
[1:03:35]
would be in a dialogue, an
[1:03:36]
incentive or interest beyond
[1:03:39]
just the product itself.
[1:03:43]
In other words, if that's an
[1:03:46]
organization, it helps us
[1:03:47]
bring down accrued liability
[1:03:50]
that end up impacting employees
[1:03:52]
anyway. Trying to want if I
[1:03:54]
that a little bit more.
[1:03:55]
we're not asking people to take
[1:03:58]
a hit for the team so
[1:04:00]
to speak.
[1:04:01]
But to the extent that people
[1:04:02]
are attracted by the idea
[1:04:04]
that we can reach a certain
[1:04:08]
critical mass, it saves jobs,
[1:04:08]
it
[1:04:11]
freeze up dollars and wages and
[1:04:13]
other things.
[1:04:14]
I understand the collective
[1:04:14]
bargaining session.
[1:04:24]
i take note and other important
[1:04:27]
thing is willingness
[1:04:31]
convene early.
[1:04:34]
My experience has been in other
[1:04:36]
places, especially
[1:04:41]
prior to coming here, that the
[1:04:45]
lack or unwillingness of
[1:04:47]
management elected officials
[1:04:49]
and others to do that, really
[1:04:54]
help lead to a lot of conflict.
[1:04:56]
Like anything else, just like
[1:04:57]
any balanced discussion
[1:05:00]
with budget, there's a lot of
[1:05:01]
questions whether accrued
[1:05:03]
liability numbers are real.
[1:05:05]
Are those numbers really where
[1:05:06]
they should be.
[1:05:07]
I don't dispute them but people
[1:05:08]
need to understand that
[1:05:14]
before they make commitments
[1:05:16]
and secondly, what is the --
[1:05:18]
how sharp does the trajectory
[1:05:20]
need to be to get there from
[1:05:21]
here?
[1:05:25]
How much can we defer until we
[1:05:26]
see how the macro
[1:05:28]
economy changes and how
[1:05:29]
healthcare reform May change
[1:05:29]
things.
[1:05:32]
I think those discussions are
[1:05:33]
invaluable and maybe it's
[1:05:35]
during those discussions when a
[1:05:37]
little more sharing about
[1:05:41]
how internal -- how vhp and how
[1:05:43]
mechanisms internally might
[1:05:47]
be able to help the problem.
[1:05:49]
Sound like you're doing that?
[1:05:50]
>> absolutely.
[1:05:56]
The board action a few weeks
[1:05:58]
ago to direct this to look
[1:06:00]
carefully at a unified
[1:06:00]
healthcare strategy is
[1:06:01]
important
[1:06:03]
component of this.
[1:06:06]
It involves having a strategy
[1:06:08]
to expand the commercial
[1:06:10]
capacities of our local health
[1:06:13]
systems so that we can make a
[1:06:14]
much more attractive product
[1:06:16]
for employees and for that
[1:06:20]
matter, for employees of other
[1:06:22]
organizations.
[1:06:22]
>> supervisor wassermann.
[1:06:26]
>> I wanted to thank staff and
[1:06:28]
all of employees for
[1:06:30]
being direct, being
[1:06:30]
transparent, being
[1:06:31]
collaborative.
[1:06:32]
We're all working on this
[1:06:32]
problem together.
[1:06:34]
What I wanted to state here
[1:06:39]
with something I stated in
[1:06:41]
ledge committee,ly say it again
[1:06:45]
now, at some point, I think
[1:06:46]
somebody somewhere organization
[1:06:48]
some individual needs to
[1:06:51]
hold the medical industry
[1:06:52]
accountable.
[1:06:53]
When cost, supervisor cortese
[1:06:54]
mentioned cost of
[1:06:59]
insurance going up and up, they
[1:07:00]
talk about premiums going up
[1:07:03]
because the cost of the medical
[1:07:06]
care is going up and up.
[1:07:08]
I know I seen premiums.
[1:07:12]
I seen in medical care.
[1:07:14]
I'm just hoping somewhere
[1:07:14]
washington, sacramento,
[1:07:17]
somewhere somebody says why is
[1:07:19]
medical costs going up 10
[1:07:23]
times the cpi when we as
[1:07:24]
employees are happy here when
[1:07:25]
our
[1:07:27]
salaries don't go down.
[1:07:30]
The comcast go up couple 3%
[1:07:32]
each year.
[1:07:38]
The medical cost goes up 10 time
[1:07:40]
s cip.
[1:07:43]
it was double digit increases.
[1:07:46]
When your cost of medical care
[1:07:49]
or coverage insurance or
[1:07:52]
whatever is estimating 10 and
[1:07:55]
20 percent and we're
[1:07:57]
scrambling to try and find to
[1:07:58]
be more efficient so we can
[1:08:01]
set aside for money to pay for
[1:08:02]
the insurance coverage of
[1:08:05]
retiring employees, you got to
[1:08:07]
ask at some point, why these
[1:08:09]
costs are going this way?
[1:08:11]
I appreciate the respect and
[1:08:11]
collaborative efforts and
[1:08:14]
between the administration and
[1:08:15]
employees to figure out how
[1:08:19]
we will pay for these expenses.
[1:08:25]
sooner or later, we got to say
[1:08:27]
these expenses are
[1:08:27]
wrong.
[1:08:29]
I don't know if we can throw
[1:08:29]
out for further
[1:08:30]
discussion.
[1:08:34]
Gary if we have the right for
[1:08:35]
justification of
[1:08:35]
insurance premiums.
[1:08:38]
I know there's a state
[1:08:39]
insurance commissioner.
[1:08:42]
I don't know who regulates the
[1:08:42]
cost and what they
[1:08:44]
charge for medical care.
[1:08:46]
it's hard to be playing catchup
[1:08:47]
all the time and you
[1:08:50]
got this run away horse and
[1:08:52]
somehow pull the reigns back.
[1:08:54]
No matter what we do no matter
[1:08:59]
with the epic, no matter
[1:09:01]
with more efficient methods, we
[1:09:03]
cannot keep up with
[1:09:07]
escalating medical cost and
[1:09:10]
premiums that are double digit
[1:09:10]
each year.
[1:09:13]
It's not a question of if or
[1:09:15]
when.
[1:09:19]
>> I think jeff and I can maybe
[1:09:20]
both reflect on this.
[1:09:22]
There was a time when medicine
[1:09:23]
was not a business.
[1:09:26]
it was looked at quite
[1:09:27]
differently.
[1:09:31]
It was a -- I don't mean to get
[1:09:32]
carried away -- it was
[1:09:33]
a laudable calling.
[1:09:37]
Most of you know I have a
[1:09:37]
nursing background.
[1:09:40]
At that time, when people went
[1:09:41]
into the hospital, there
[1:09:43]
was insurance coverage but
[1:09:47]
medicine was not the business
[1:09:47]
it
[1:09:48]
is today.
[1:09:49]
There are, learning about this
[1:09:50]
in pittsburgh, there are
[1:09:52]
whole cities in the south that
[1:09:53]
are devoted to healthcare.
[1:09:55]
That's how people make their
[1:09:55]
living.
[1:09:58]
There's one city devoted just
[1:09:59]
to dialysis.
[1:10:02]
Dialysis is a very lucrative
[1:10:04]
business.
[1:10:05]
I hesitate saying things out
[1:10:06]
loud but the more
[1:10:08]
developed we have become in the
[1:10:09]
healthcare field, the more
[1:10:13]
ways there are to save people,
[1:10:17]
to maintain them sometimes
[1:10:19]
long after the quality has
[1:10:22]
disappeared, the more expensive
[1:10:22]
it becomes.
[1:10:26]
That is one of the reasons in
[1:10:28]
the aca there was a
[1:10:31]
discussion initially which had
[1:10:33]
a great dealed feedback about
[1:10:36]
it about the dreaded word, what
[1:10:38]
do I call that word instead
[1:10:41]
of what it is.
[1:10:41]
Call it options.
[1:10:44]
Whether or not you discuss with
[1:10:45]
people what they want
[1:10:46]
the quality of life to be for
[1:10:51]
them or for their family.
[1:10:57]
I realize, I'm opining somewhat
[1:10:58]
on this.
[1:11:00]
We have become a very
[1:11:03]
complicated country as far as
[1:11:04]
healthcare goes.
[1:11:06]
As we used to say, still do, no
[1:11:07]
one every dies in
[1:11:08]
surgery.
[1:11:11]
they only die later because
[1:11:15]
there is no way you can do
[1:11:18]
that.
[1:11:20]
Again, I am so sympathetic for
[1:11:22]
families who lost
[1:11:23]
someone who had that grief.
[1:11:25]
There's also grief in families
[1:11:27]
where someone lives far
[1:11:30]
longer and as one of the women
[1:11:30]
said earlier today, somebody
[1:11:32]
who goes to bed praying,
[1:11:34]
they'll be dead in the morning
[1:11:36]
because it is so hard to
[1:11:37]
maintain your life.
[1:11:41]
It's a long answer mike but I
[1:11:42]
really think the
[1:11:43]
transformation that has taken
[1:11:46]
place in healthcare and the
[1:11:48]
time I reserved it is pretty
[1:11:48]
dramatic.
[1:11:51]
Probably why the aca did pass
[1:11:52]
and even though it has
[1:11:53]
its fault.
[1:11:55]
I think there are a number of
[1:11:57]
really good provisions in
[1:11:58]
it.
[1:11:59]
Longer answer than you you
[1:12:03]
wanted but it has troubled
[1:12:05]
me for years how insurance
[1:12:10]
company have become such big
[1:12:11]
business.
[1:12:14]
their executives are paid
[1:12:15]
extremely well and from time
[1:12:17]
to time the system is misused.
[1:12:19]
I don't know if you want to
[1:12:20]
comment jeff or not.
[1:12:25]
We have one nurse and one
[1:12:28]
doctor on a board throughout
[1:12:28]
california.
[1:12:31]
Jeff you maybe the only
[1:12:36]
physician ceo.
[1:12:37]
I did carry on didn't I?
[1:12:42]
>> I guess the question was who
[1:12:42]
regulates this and
[1:12:45]
there is some regulatory
[1:12:46]
capacity that the insurance
[1:12:48]
commissioner has but not
[1:12:48]
complete.
[1:12:52]
There also is regulatory
[1:12:54]
capacity that the department
[1:12:56]
of managed healthcare has.
[1:12:57]
Again, not complete.
[1:13:01]
I guess the fundamental issue
[1:13:03]
is as supervisor kniss
[1:13:07]
pointed out that in a for
[1:13:08]
profit structure, somebody has
[1:13:08]
to
[1:13:15]
win and somebody has to lose.
[1:13:19]
That's the way it no, our
[1:13:23]
country today.
[1:13:27]
>> to be perfectly clear so I'm
[1:13:29]
not misunderstood or
[1:13:31]
misquoted, I'm perfectly happy
[1:13:33]
with each and every
[1:13:34]
individual and organization
[1:13:36]
making profitings. I don't
[1:13:39]
begrudge that and it's the
[1:13:42]
american dream.
[1:13:44]
What I'm saying, I'm not just
[1:13:45]
lobbying for government
[1:13:46]
here.
[1:13:46]
How government employees
[1:13:48]
suppose to keep up with the
[1:13:50]
cost.
[1:13:51]
Private sector too.
[1:13:52]
I was self-employed for 30
[1:13:53]
years.
[1:13:54]
Can't keep up with the
[1:13:55]
escalating cost.
[1:13:56]
We're in government now.
[1:13:58]
I'm in government now, we're
[1:13:59]
all in government, can't
[1:14:11]
keep up with the cost.
[1:14:15]
Something got to move more in
[1:14:15]
parallel.
[1:14:18]
i hope something somewhere
[1:14:19]
happens at some point.
[1:14:20]
Last couple years has been
[1:14:22]
great.
[1:14:24]
You brought that $220 million
[1:14:25]
down to $80 million or
[1:14:27]
whatever the number is, that's
[1:14:28]
all great.
[1:14:33]
But if cost go like this, and
[1:14:34]
revenues go like this,
[1:14:39]
like I said, it's a question
[1:14:39]
when you break.
[1:14:42]
break
[1:14:45]
>> thank you supervisors.
[1:14:46]
Anything else?
[1:14:47]
Thank you gary and jeff.
[1:14:52]
Item six is a recommendation
[1:14:57]
relating to the sale of
[1:14:57]
real property.
[1:14:59]
Jeff I have one speaker.
[1:15:01]
I think it's a question.
[1:15:06]
Let me have her ask the
[1:15:12]
question.
[1:15:14]
Why don't you ask the question
[1:15:18]
as presentation goes on.
[1:15:23]
>> good afternoon lynn bradley
[1:15:24]
from seiu.
[1:15:28]
It talked about the shelter or
[1:15:29]
receiving center where
[1:15:32]
children will go.
[1:15:34]
We have never been told in
[1:15:36]
social services agency.
[1:15:38]
we're curious where it will be
[1:15:39]
moving one.
[1:15:39]
>> staff?
[1:15:41]
>> thank you Mr. President,
[1:15:43]
members of the board.
[1:15:46]
With me today, this is a
[1:15:47]
familiar face, he's the
[1:15:48]
interim acting director of the
[1:15:49]
social services agency and
[1:15:52]
responsible for the operation
[1:15:53]
of a relocation assessment and
[1:15:56]
intake assessment center.
[1:16:03]
david and nancy weiner who is
[1:16:05]
the founding and director
[1:16:06]
of the silicone valley children
[1:16:08]
fund.
[1:16:13]
In the audience we have sharon
[1:16:15]
pick assistant business
[1:16:18]
manager for harker school.
[1:16:20]
in conforming with the
[1:16:21]
government code following
[1:16:25]
direction on January 24th when
[1:16:26]
you adopt resolution for
[1:16:28]
offering to sale the former
[1:16:30]
children's shelter.
[1:16:32]
We subsequently opening sealed
[1:16:32]
written bids on
[1:16:33]
March 1st.
[1:16:36]
We received four written bids,
[1:16:37]
three at the minimum
[1:16:38]
qualifying requirements.
[1:16:40]
there was a subsequent oral
[1:16:44]
bidding process at the
[1:16:46]
closed of which harker school
[1:16:49]
made the highest remaining bid
[1:16:56]
of $25,505,000.
[1:16:57]
Before recommend action to
[1:17:00]
adopt the resolution accept
[1:17:01]
highest bid approving purchase
[1:17:03]
of sale agreement.
[1:17:05]
It provides for 150 day due
[1:17:08]
diligence period and a
[1:17:10]
30-day close escrow period.
[1:17:11]
Following a successful close of
[1:17:14]
escrow, the county
[1:17:16]
would realize one time proceeds
[1:17:18]
of $10.7 million and in the
[1:17:21]
proposed budget there'sal a one
[1:17:23]
time allocation of
[1:17:25]
$3.5 million toward relocation
[1:17:27]
of the intake and assessment
[1:17:28]
center.
[1:17:32]
But I think that those are the
[1:17:35]
stark details.
[1:17:37]
This really is a 20 year
[1:17:38]
collaboration.
[1:17:51]
there's been much cash --
[1:17:58]
cachet.
[1:18:01]
What we now see is prospect of
[1:18:02]
beautiful facility
[1:18:06]
entering new phase devoted to
[1:18:06]
children.
[1:18:11]
This partnership started out as
[1:18:15]
a 50/50 joint venture
[1:18:19]
between the private sector and
[1:18:21]
the county and it ended up
[1:18:24]
with 50% of the proceeds from
[1:18:28]
the sale with the property
[1:18:32]
being satisfied. Proceeds are
[1:18:35]
split 50/50 with silicone
[1:18:36]
valley children's fund.
[1:18:38]
This afternoon I was also
[1:18:39]
informed that city council of
[1:18:42]
san jose played their part and
[1:18:45]
took action to provide a
[1:18:48]
process for lifting the
[1:18:49]
affordable housing restrictions
[1:18:49]
that
[1:18:50]
were placed on the property at
[1:18:56]
the beginning of the project.
[1:18:58]
With that, Mr. Mavis.
[1:19:02]
Anything you like to say on
[1:19:04]
behalf of the fund?
[1:19:06]
>> we would like to thank mike
[1:19:07]
wasserman and his staff
[1:19:09]
and also bruce for helping us
[1:19:12]
navigate through this process.
[1:19:18]
We're looking forward to
[1:19:22]
wrapping it up.
[1:19:29]
so thank you.
[1:19:31]
>> I appreciate the opportunity
[1:19:32]
to just make a few
[1:19:34]
comments to all of you.
[1:19:36]
Some of the familiar faces.
[1:19:38]
I only want to correct one
[1:19:40]
thing that bruce said.
[1:19:42]
I was actually a 39 year
[1:19:44]
employee of santa clara county
[1:19:46]
and it was in that capacity
[1:19:49]
that we formed the fund and
[1:19:50]
developed this very unique
[1:19:51]
partnership.
[1:19:54]
Many of you know it was a model
[1:19:57]
throughout the state
[1:20:01]
for its community participation
[1:20:11]
and for thed the model it set.
[1:20:12]
I had opportunity to create
[1:20:12]
this partnership.
[1:20:19]
This gives me a chance to say a
[1:20:21]
special thanks to
[1:20:22]
supervisor diane mckenna who
[1:20:25]
really did an amazing job
[1:20:27]
with the cheerleader of this
[1:20:27]
project.
[1:20:30]
i think we ought to take a
[1:20:33]
moment and thank the staff
[1:20:38]
and our county supervisors and
[1:20:39]
our county administration for
[1:20:40]
the tremendous work that was
[1:20:41]
done at the children shelter
[1:20:44]
during all of these years.
[1:20:46]
I am particularly appreciative
[1:20:48]
of the very thoughtful
[1:20:52]
process that has gone on at
[1:20:54]
this point in time.
[1:20:57]
I greatly appreciate the fact
[1:20:58]
that bruce has been able
[1:21:01]
and the county executive has
[1:21:02]
been able to spearhead this
[1:21:08]
project to place it in the
[1:21:09]
good hands of harker who by the
[1:21:11]
way contributed to this project.
[1:21:13]
A group of kids from harker.
[1:21:16]
That's a fun thing to note.
[1:21:17]
I'm particularly appreciative
[1:21:19]
that the fund will be
[1:21:22]
able to use the donations that
[1:21:25]
were given to this project to
[1:21:28]
further the work because the
[1:21:29]
real focus these continue to be
[1:21:31]
to support and help the abused
[1:21:33]
and neglected children of our
[1:21:33]
county.
[1:21:35]
I am very grateful for that and
[1:21:37]
I thank all of you for
[1:21:38]
the work you've done.
[1:21:41]
I thank bruce for the work that
[1:21:43]
he's done in carrying
[1:21:43]
that forward.
[1:21:45]
Thank you.
[1:21:46]
>> thank you.
[1:21:50]
>> Mr. President, I like to
[1:21:51]
respond to lynn bradley's
[1:21:52]
comment and question about what
[1:21:57]
is the future of the center
[1:21:58]
for social services agency.
[1:22:01]
Comment that the employees have
[1:22:03]
not been informed.
[1:22:09]
I think the new shelter sale,
[1:22:10]
pending sale is common
[1:22:11]
knowledge as has been reported
[1:22:12]
in the paper.
[1:22:15]
The agencies continue to be
[1:22:16]
seeking for alternate
[1:22:23]
location for their scaled down
[1:22:24]
operation.
[1:22:25]
They received children for no
[1:22:28]
more than 24 hours. We
[1:22:30]
are in the process of looking
[1:22:34]
for possibilities and we will
[1:22:37]
definitely confer and consult
[1:22:38]
our employee organization in
[1:22:39]
the future of where the
[1:22:41]
location is.
[1:22:44]
There are other county partners
[1:22:45]
whether it's pediatric
[1:22:47]
center of vmc and mental health
[1:22:48]
department and other
[1:22:49]
department of social services
[1:22:52]
agency that we will be
[1:22:59]
consulting and conferring for
[1:23:02]
either temporary location
[1:23:04]
>> thank you, anything else?
[1:23:07]
Thank you to all of you.
[1:23:09]
Let me recognize supervisor
[1:23:09]
yeager.
[1:23:14]
>> I know all of this,
[1:23:15]
appreciate all the work
[1:23:17]
everybody has done to make this
[1:23:17]
happen.
[1:23:20]
For those of us following this
[1:23:22]
very closely like I was.
[1:23:23]
There was no guarantee we were
[1:23:26]
going to be where we are
[1:23:29]
this afternoon with everybody
[1:23:30]
saying thank you.
[1:23:32]
Having an agreement that works
[1:23:33]
for everybody.
[1:23:37]
this was very complicated from
[1:23:38]
the very beginning.
[1:23:54]
It took a lot of excellently of
[1:23:55]
-- flexibility.
[1:23:56]
i was excited that harker was
[1:23:57]
the top bidder.
[1:23:59]
It's going to fit very well
[1:24:04]
with the surrounding
[1:24:04]
neighborhoods.
[1:24:06]
If I had to sort of choose
[1:24:07]
where I would want public
[1:24:09]
land to be used for school
[1:24:11]
would certainly be at the top
[1:24:11]
of
[1:24:11]
my list.
[1:24:17]
it was good to hear little bit
[1:24:17]
about the history.
[1:24:19]
We did have an obligation to
[1:24:20]
make sure some of the
[1:24:25]
proceeds did go to abused and
[1:24:26]
neglected children.
[1:24:28]
Nancy appreciate you giving a
[1:24:28]
little bit of history and
[1:24:31]
all the people involved in that.
[1:24:33]
It was a magnificent project.
[1:24:35]
When it started it look a lot
[1:24:36]
of collaboration and lot
[1:24:37]
of support and dollars and
[1:24:41]
leadership to make it happen.
[1:24:45]
Times changed and we all need
[1:24:47]
to change with them.
[1:24:50]
We did all of that obligation
[1:24:52]
to the children that
[1:24:54]
using that property to begin
[1:24:54]
with.
[1:24:57]
with thatly make a motion that
[1:24:59]
we adopt this
[1:25:02]
resolution.
[1:25:05]
>> motion by yeager and
[1:25:05]
seconded by wassermann.
[1:25:09]
Supervisor yeager thank you for
[1:25:10]
your work.
[1:25:11]
Bruce of course you and your
[1:25:12]
staff.
[1:25:16]
Anything else on this board?
[1:25:22]
please vote by light.
[1:25:25]
That carries unanimously.
[1:25:28]
Thank you everyone,
[1:25:28]
congratulations.
[1:25:31]
I think there's nothing before
[1:25:31]
us for this item.
[1:25:34]
We will move on to item seven.
[1:25:35]
Supervisor cortese we are
[1:25:36]
starting children family
[1:25:38]
seniors committee.
[1:25:40]
As a chair, I want to afford
[1:25:41]
opportunities, if you want
[1:25:46]
to say any word before we start
[1:25:48]
with the child support
[1:25:49]
services. Did want to say
[1:25:51]
anything prior?
[1:25:54]
>> only that we've taken a
[1:25:58]
preliminary look at the
[1:26:00]
committee.
[1:26:03]
The budget items -- still
[1:26:06]
opportunity for that to
[1:26:07]
happen.
[1:26:09]
Looking forward to the
[1:26:18]
engagement of the full board on
[1:26:18]
respite process.
[1:26:21]
>> item seven is review of the
[1:26:25]
department of child
[1:26:27]
services.
[1:26:28]
>> good afternoon.
[1:26:29]
Adele hunter with the
[1:26:31]
department of child support
[1:26:33]
services filling in for ralph
[1:26:34]
miller who has family
[1:26:34]
emergency.
[1:26:41]
i want to give you update of
[1:26:42]
these department budgets
[1:26:43]
since the recommended budget
[1:26:45]
was published. Yesterday on
[1:26:46]
the conference call from the
[1:26:50]
state department of the child
[1:26:53]
support services, it was
[1:26:54]
announced there will be a
[1:26:55]
reduction.
[1:26:57]
At this point, the state is
[1:26:59]
looking at options for ways
[1:27:03]
to reduce that funding.
[1:27:04]
We have no additional
[1:27:06]
information and what the impact
[1:27:07]
would be on santa clara county
[1:27:11]
at this time is unknown.
[1:27:14]
Once impact is known, and what
[1:27:15]
our reductions are, we
[1:27:18]
will be working oba to
[1:27:20]
determine how to balance our
[1:27:20]
budget
[1:27:23]
and during the budget process,
[1:27:26]
we will have more information
[1:27:27]
for the board of supervisors.
[1:27:30]
I'm available for any questions
[1:27:33]
>> questions from the board?
[1:27:35]
>> when you talk about the
[1:27:37]
call, you referring to the
[1:27:38]
May revise?
[1:27:40]
There was a conference call
[1:27:41]
dealing with the may
[1:27:42]
revise.
[1:27:43]
I just wanted to understand
[1:27:46]
whether or not these are
[1:27:46]
just additional proposals or
[1:27:47]
something cemented?
[1:27:49]
>> these are results of the May
[1:27:49]
revise.
[1:27:51]
>> so it's still up in the air
[1:27:52]
at least.
[1:27:56]
>> all right, thank you.
[1:27:57]
>> anyone else?
[1:28:01]
Jeff any other comments?
[1:28:04]
thank you, appreciate it.
[1:28:08]
Item number ability is inhome
[1:28:11]
support services.
[1:28:14]
Luke?
[1:28:21]
Item eight now, ihss.
[1:28:25]
>> sorry Mr. President, I was
[1:28:25]
providing further
[1:28:27]
explanation to --
[1:28:33]
>> I know you were working.
[1:28:38]
>> this is a my ihss support
[1:28:39]
services.
[1:28:40]
If you can confer with me, this
[1:28:41]
is transferring the
[1:28:48]
function to social services on
[1:28:49]
the administrative portion?
[1:28:50]
>> the transfer tax and
[1:28:51]
responsibility will be
[1:28:57]
transferred to social services
[1:28:58]
on an administrative level.
[1:29:02]
>> this has been historically
[1:29:03]
been administered under
[1:29:04]
the county executive office
[1:29:12]
ever since the public authority
[1:29:15]
was formed.
[1:29:21]
>> questions from the board?
[1:29:26]
>> I'll just point out that the
[1:29:27]
governors May revise
[1:29:28]
suggest more cuts when we know
[1:29:30]
what's going on with that, we
[1:29:32]
will come back to the board
[1:29:35]
with modifications.
[1:29:38]
>> okay.
[1:29:40]
I'm thinking, it was difference
[1:29:42]
you spoke of 11 years
[1:29:44]
ago today and last years today
[1:29:46]
it's a little different.
[1:29:48]
I'm sorry I'm shell shocked and
[1:29:50]
we had more discussions
[1:29:52]
on some items.
[1:29:53]
>> [Inaudible]
[1:29:54]
>> thank you supervisor.
[1:29:55]
Thank you luke.
[1:29:58]
We will move on to item number
[1:30:01]
nine.
[1:30:08]
item nine is review of custody
[1:30:09]
health services.
[1:30:13]
>> I'll just make some very
[1:30:16]
brief momentos keep with
[1:30:18]
tradition, I guess.
[1:30:19]
Thank you Mr. President
[1:30:21]
shirakawa and honorable
[1:30:23]
supervisors.
[1:30:27]
at both Dr. Smith and gary
[1:30:28]
described, the proposed
[1:30:29]
budget for our health and
[1:30:32]
hospital system fiscal year
[1:30:32]
2013
[1:30:37]
reflects the direction to stay
[1:30:39]
with maintenance level.
[1:30:42]
It reconfirms commitment from
[1:30:47]
the county mission.
[1:30:50]
it continues and some cases
[1:30:51]
accelerates the necessary
[1:30:53]
changes to respond to the
[1:30:54]
increasing challenges.
[1:30:58]
As many of you noted, earlier
[1:30:58]
discussion related to
[1:31:01]
healthcare reform as well as
[1:31:02]
the economic uncertainties.
[1:31:04]
It's that purpose and with the
[1:31:06]
county mission as well
[1:31:09]
as our values in mind our
[1:31:11]
executive leadership for
[1:31:11]
adopting
[1:31:12]
the following five major
[1:31:13]
strategic priorities.
[1:31:15]
First and foremost as you know,
[1:31:17]
since this has been
[1:31:20]
part of the strategic framework
[1:31:23]
from the a&m work.
[1:31:24]
The culture of accountability
[1:31:25]
is very important for us.
[1:31:30]
we can happens the monitoring
[1:31:32]
of our system and also
[1:31:34]
the manage performance of our
[1:31:35]
health and particularly
[1:31:36]
hospital system.
[1:31:37]
System integration important
[1:31:40]
for us as well in term of
[1:31:44]
delivering better quality care
[1:31:47]
and lowering cost.
[1:31:49]
Position alignment is better
[1:31:52]
for provision of care and
[1:31:54]
strategic and decision-making
[1:31:55]
process.
[1:31:58]
Unified managed care in terms
[1:31:59]
of happening reliability
[1:32:02]
of safety net in more
[1:32:03]
competitive marketplace as well
[1:32:03]
as
[1:32:05]
deliver the better and still
[1:32:05]
support the critical functions
[1:32:09]
of our health system.
[1:32:13]
we added a tiff which is
[1:32:14]
transforming communities.
[1:32:17]
It's a challenge but also even
[1:32:19]
more important to be
[1:32:21]
within participations of both
[1:32:22]
patients as well as community
[1:32:28]
so we can continuously continue
[1:32:30]
the health status.
[1:32:32]
we think combining all of these
[1:32:33]
five major strategic
[1:32:34]
priority will position
[1:32:35]
ourselves in a much better
[1:32:36]
place in
[1:32:38]
terms of reform.
[1:32:39]
As you mentioned, our employees
[1:32:40]
have done tremendous in
[1:32:46]
terms of day in and day out,
[1:32:49]
7/24, 365 days out of year.
[1:32:51]
Doing what we need to do to
[1:32:53]
fulfill our mission.
[1:32:55]
We want to make sure that we
[1:32:56]
continue to protect and
[1:32:58]
promote the health of residents
[1:33:00]
in our communities.
[1:33:01]
That includes all 1.8 million
[1:33:03]
residents, that's part of
[1:33:04]
our public health
[1:33:04]
responsibility.
[1:33:06]
Mental health will continue to
[1:33:08]
treat and care the
[1:33:10]
seriously mental ill in our
[1:33:12]
communities on behalf of all of
[1:33:12]
us.
[1:33:17]
Custody health will serve
[1:33:18]
incarcerated adult or youth.
[1:33:20]
Drug and alcohol services
[1:33:21]
department, will continue to
[1:33:24]
serve youth and adults
[1:33:24]
afflicted by addiction.
[1:33:26]
Our community health services
[1:33:28]
will continue to treat
[1:33:31]
people with illnesses, that are
[1:33:38]
risk to themselves as well
[1:33:41]
as others. Certainly our santa
[1:33:42]
clara valley medical center,
[1:33:45]
we continue to provide care and
[1:33:47]
treatment at your hospitals
[1:33:47]
and clinics.
[1:33:49]
Each of our department heads
[1:33:50]
will now present very
[1:33:52]
briefly the major highlights
[1:33:54]
offer budget proposals and I
[1:34:02]
will turn it over to mary yan.
[1:34:02]
Maryann.
[1:34:04]
>> let me recognize the chair.
[1:34:07]
Let the chair say a couple
[1:34:10]
words.
[1:34:16]
>> just to say in general,
[1:34:18]
welcome renee first of all.
[1:34:22]
It's good to have you.
[1:34:26]
Secondly, I'm not always sure
[1:34:28]
that everyone understands
[1:34:29]
what it takes to upgrade the
[1:34:32]
health system in this county.
[1:34:35]
Unless I'm wrong, we're usually
[1:34:35]
running about
[1:34:36]
$1.5 billion.
[1:34:42]
Have we changed any this year?
[1:34:44]
We upped it to 1.7.
[1:34:48]
That is a third overall as we
[1:34:49]
look at our $4 billion
[1:34:50]
budget. It's very important
[1:34:52]
service that we provide.
[1:34:56]
i truly believe and I often say
[1:34:57]
to people, this county
[1:34:59]
has universal healthcare
[1:34:59]
regardless what you might have
[1:35:00]
in '
[1:35:00]
county.
[1:35:03]
We really do have that.
[1:35:06]
There is absolutely no way that
[1:35:07]
you could not get
[1:35:08]
service in this county if you
[1:35:09]
wish to get it.
[1:35:14]
You can go to one of our
[1:35:16]
clinics or partnership clinic.
[1:35:18]
You can access our urgent care.
[1:35:19]
You can access -- there are
[1:35:21]
number of ways that you can
[1:35:24]
get treatment in this county.
[1:35:26]
We have had support from that
[1:35:27]
from the public for a
[1:35:30]
very long period of time.
[1:35:32]
Right now, we're under way with
[1:35:34]
a new building which I
[1:35:37]
think still is on target for
[1:35:38]
2013, which is going to be
[1:35:40]
certainly state of the art.
[1:35:43]
Having said all of that, we
[1:35:45]
really have struggled over
[1:35:50]
the last few years, ken equal
[1:35:52]
credit and I, to really put
[1:35:55]
the hospital on a different
[1:35:55]
track.
[1:35:59]
because just as mike mentioned
[1:36:01]
earlier that the rise in
[1:36:02]
healthcare is phenomenal.
[1:36:04]
It is also difficult when we
[1:36:09]
now have so many issues so
[1:36:11]
many new diagnostic test.
[1:36:13]
So much is new particularly for
[1:36:14]
patients not ask for
[1:36:14]
those.
[1:36:16]
If you go in with broken leg
[1:36:19]
now rather than simply
[1:36:20]
have an x-ray, someone will say
[1:36:24]
you need an mri and ct scan.
[1:36:25]
There's a lot of explanation
[1:36:29]
that must go on between
[1:36:30]
the provider and the user.
[1:36:32]
It's become a far more
[1:36:34]
complicated system that we use
[1:36:36]
in order to provide healthcare.
[1:36:38]
one that I think we have to be
[1:36:39]
explaining to the public
[1:36:41]
a great deal of time.
[1:36:43]
Having said that, we still got
[1:36:46]
great support in '08 for
[1:36:48]
the bond putting up the new
[1:36:50]
building. When we have gone
[1:36:51]
out
[1:36:53]
for public support particularly
[1:36:54]
for kids areas, trauma and
[1:36:57]
so forth, we've gotten that as
[1:36:58]
well.
[1:37:00]
i think the public truly does
[1:37:05]
value this service that
[1:37:13]
we provide in exemplary way in
[1:37:13]
this county.
[1:37:17]
This is not a whole new area
[1:37:19]
for you but a different
[1:37:21]
way to deliver healthcare.
[1:37:25]
I really like to say thanks to
[1:37:27]
ken because this is --
[1:37:29]
these are long meetings that we
[1:37:30]
have.
[1:37:32]
We've spend a great deal of
[1:37:34]
time.
[1:37:37]
I spend a lot of time talking
[1:37:39]
to jeff and linda
[1:37:42]
particularly with gays and cfo.
[1:37:44]
We are working with diligence
[1:37:48]
to try to keep the cost
[1:37:50]
down of that most expensive of
[1:37:52]
our department.
[1:37:53]
I really want the public as
[1:37:55]
well as employees know
[1:38:03]
that, I think we have had a
[1:38:05]
concentrate effort in order to
[1:38:06]
understand more completely
[1:38:07]
exactly how the healthcare
[1:38:08]
dollar
[1:38:08]
is spent.
[1:38:11]
I think we're making some
[1:38:12]
progress.
[1:38:14]
I'm going to turn this over to
[1:38:16]
ken next year and lord
[1:38:18]
knows he May save a whole lot
[1:38:20]
more than we've been able to
[1:38:21]
together.
[1:38:22]
i really do want to show
[1:38:24]
everyone that we have worked
[1:38:24]
hard on this.
[1:38:28]
It good to see you renee.
[1:38:30]
You will be over seeing our
[1:38:32]
umbrella of healthcare
[1:38:32]
services.
[1:38:38]
For all the other thing that we
[1:38:39]
provide, we deliver
[1:38:40]
kind of a sober message.
[1:38:42]
if you don't have your
[1:38:44]
healthcare and you don't have a
[1:38:46]
way to get healthcare to help
[1:38:50]
you through the problem to
[1:38:54]
hopefully get better, there's
[1:38:57]
no other option.
[1:39:02]
many other things we can do
[1:39:03]
without.
[1:39:05]
When one's health is
[1:39:06]
threatened, it changes your
[1:39:07]
whole
[1:39:08]
life.
[1:39:10]
We're in a life saving business
[1:39:11]
and hopefully we're
[1:39:13]
also in a prevention business,
[1:39:16]
which has been one of the
[1:39:18]
areas that both ken and I have
[1:39:19]
concentrated on through
[1:39:22]
public health as we look at our
[1:39:29]
great great grants come in.
[1:39:32]
A rather long speech but I feel
[1:39:35]
fairly passionately
[1:39:38]
about this whole area and it
[1:39:40]
certainly has been a
[1:39:42]
challenging but very rewarding
[1:39:43]
area to work with while I've
[1:39:48]
been here at the county.
[1:39:49]
Thanks.
[1:39:50]
>> thank you very much
[1:39:51]
supervisor kniss.
[1:39:52]
You did ask a question in there
[1:39:54]
that I feel compelled
[1:39:55]
to answer.
[1:39:59]
>> I'm trying to think where I
[1:40:01]
asked the question
[1:40:01]
[Laughter].
[1:40:02]
>> you asked whether we're
[1:40:03]
still on schedule for that
[1:40:04]
building.
[1:40:05]
the answer to that is no.
[1:40:12]
With changes in terms of our
[1:40:18]
interaction with osh pod
[1:40:26]
as well as we modify our
[1:40:27]
strategic planning.
[1:40:29]
In addition, there's some
[1:40:30]
issues around the design
[1:40:33]
build and the relationship with
[1:40:34]
the contractor.
[1:40:36]
We are behind schedule and at
[1:40:38]
this point, I can't give
[1:40:40]
you an exact number but it's
[1:40:44]
probably in the year range.
[1:40:49]
i would not expect to be ready
[1:40:52]
to open in 2013.
[1:40:54]
>> heading at least to 2014?
[1:40:56]
>> with our fingers crossed.
[1:41:00]
>> one other thing I would say
[1:41:01]
george, I think we've
[1:41:04]
become much more realistic in
[1:41:05]
our prediction of numbers.
[1:41:09]
you're going to see that in
[1:41:09]
here.
[1:41:12]
Ken and I both follow an daily
[1:41:14]
basis what the consensus
[1:41:17]
is on the hospital.
[1:41:18]
Almost no stone has been
[1:41:19]
unturned if we track this.
[1:41:24]
As you look at this here, you
[1:41:25]
have noticed we have
[1:41:27]
become far more realistic in
[1:41:28]
our prediction which allow us
[1:41:29]
to become much more realistic
[1:41:33]
as we go through our budgeting
[1:41:35]
session.
[1:41:41]
That -- we haven't hit our
[1:41:42]
target.
[1:41:45]
I think it's more realistic and
[1:41:48]
i think we have seen a
[1:41:49]
number of improvements lately
[1:41:54]
as far as getting toward that
[1:41:57]
those actual numbers we
[1:41:58]
allocated last year.
[1:42:00]
>> thank you supervisor. Jeff
[1:42:01]
anything else?
[1:42:05]
Thank you renee and let's go to
[1:42:06]
the unit form 14 grant.
[1:42:08]
it was a long way to get to you.
[1:42:11]
>> I'm happy to wait.
[1:42:12]
Custody health services. From
[1:42:13]
the highlights
[1:42:15]
identified above, just like to
[1:42:19]
quickly point out two of the
[1:42:20]
highlights.
[1:42:22]
The first the second bullet
[1:42:24]
where we finalized
[1:42:27]
agreement with the social
[1:42:30]
security administration.
[1:42:34]
This is really a critical
[1:42:35]
piece, success reentry
[1:42:38]
efforts for inmates back into
[1:42:40]
our community I'm sure board
[1:42:43]
members are aware May lose
[1:42:43]
benefits upon incarceration and
[1:42:45]
when they are released from the
[1:42:47]
jail, it takes them three,
[1:42:49]
six and more months to obtain
[1:42:51]
benefits. This agreement will
[1:42:55]
allow us to start the process
[1:42:56]
three months prior to the
[1:42:58]
release and the benefits will
[1:42:59]
be available to them hopefully
[1:43:01]
on the day of their release.
[1:43:04]
We will be able to provide
[1:43:05]
appropriate housing and
[1:43:10]
other benefits for them.
[1:43:11]
The last bullet I will point
[1:43:15]
out 62% of our inmates
[1:43:18]
receive medicare and equates
[1:43:19]
about 2200 inmates. 22%
[1:43:21]
receive mental health services
[1:43:27]
and approximately a thousand
[1:43:29]
inmates. As far as our request
[1:43:32]
for funding, for fiscal
[1:43:34]
year, the request is six
[1:43:35]
positions.
[1:43:37]
These positions are direct
[1:43:50]
service care providers.
[1:43:53]
i would be happy to answer any
[1:43:53]
questions you might have
[1:43:58]
>> maybe question and comment.
[1:44:03]
We had discussions with
[1:44:06]
possibly medical and that whole
[1:44:09]
model.
[1:44:15]
i think it was on page 463, the
[1:44:16]
four positions and it
[1:44:19]
mentions focus of care will be
[1:44:24]
on primary prevention and
[1:44:25]
chronic disease management.
[1:44:27]
Certainly a good plan that
[1:44:30]
rotate maybe one out of the
[1:44:30]
six doctors and ga the
[1:44:33]
community to do that treatment
[1:44:37]
possibly and I've always
[1:44:39]
advocated that the -- can you
[1:44:40]
talk
[1:44:42]
about discussions?
[1:44:46]
>> the plan is that setting and
[1:44:49]
primary care clinic at
[1:44:51]
the reentry center.
[1:44:58]
we want it to be a transition
[1:44:58]
al center.
[1:45:01]
We will be providing services
[1:45:03]
until we can get them
[1:45:04]
reestablished within the
[1:45:06]
community with their primary
[1:45:06]
care
[1:45:07]
provider.
[1:45:10]
>> we'll hear that five year
[1:45:10]
plan.
[1:45:13]
I'm sure you'll be there too.
[1:45:17]
other questions from the
[1:45:22]
committee?
[1:45:24]
>> on page 460, on the right
[1:45:28]
hand side three down, it
[1:45:32]
says unfunded codes.
[1:45:35]
i understand it cost center and
[1:45:37]
it list 24 ftes.
[1:45:38]
Can you explain what those are?
[1:45:40]
Are they in the body of this
[1:45:44]
and I didn't see it?
[1:45:46]
>> the unfunded codes
[1:45:50]
historically had a number up
[1:45:51]
funded codes as I believe
[1:45:53]
valley medical center had
[1:45:54]
unfunded
[1:45:56]
codes.
[1:45:57]
Primary focus of those codes is
[1:45:59]
they are all clinical
[1:46:01]
positions. For-instances, we
[1:46:07]
have clinical nurse position,
[1:46:09]
nurse practitioner.
[1:46:11]
They are used on individuals on
[1:46:12]
a long term leave
[1:46:16]
>> those are sort of like
[1:46:18]
temporary health help?
[1:46:22]
>> they are not temporary help.
[1:46:24]
>> temporary contracts maybe?
[1:46:25]
>> they would be.
[1:46:32]
If we fill the position, it
[1:46:34]
will be a coded position.
[1:46:37]
it's a vacant position but it's
[1:46:38]
unfunded.
[1:46:42]
Funding will come from the
[1:46:43]
position that -- let me see
[1:46:48]
if I can back up.
[1:46:50]
I can't remember when we last
[1:46:51]
use them.
[1:46:53]
We use it on in situations
[1:46:55]
where we have a critical
[1:46:56]
position within the
[1:46:58]
organization to provide
[1:46:59]
clinical care
[1:47:02]
and we don't have the capacity
[1:47:05]
to fill the position because
[1:47:06]
people are on long term
[1:47:07]
extended leave and we need to
[1:47:09]
continue to provide the service.
[1:47:12]
We would seek permission to use
[1:47:15]
unfunded code.
[1:47:17]
Let's say a nurse practitioner,
[1:47:18]
we will seek
[1:47:20]
opportunity to use unfunded
[1:47:22]
code, hire someone under the
[1:47:24]
code and they will be a coded
[1:47:25]
employee.
[1:47:29]
>> what jure saying, these are
[1:47:32]
sort of your kinds of
[1:47:32]
provided codes?
[1:47:35]
You seldom use them but you
[1:47:39]
need them in a just in case
[1:47:39]
situation?
[1:47:40]
>> that it correct.
[1:47:42]
>> you you're saying you seldom
[1:47:44]
use them?
[1:47:46]
>> very seldom.
[1:47:48]
I have to check with finance.
[1:47:53]
I know we haven't used them in
[1:48:00]
many years.
[1:48:04]
>> employees on long term
[1:48:08]
leave, we do not need
[1:48:09]
unfunded codes. Historically,
[1:48:11]
the unfunded codes in custody
[1:48:15]
health as well as elsewhere in
[1:48:17]
the hospital as mentioned are
[1:48:20]
clinical positions.
[1:48:22]
They mostly for the patient
[1:48:22]
census.
[1:48:27]
We build to the number of
[1:48:28]
positions that maximumly
[1:48:31]
going to be used. At times, we
[1:48:32]
look at those unfunded codes
[1:48:35]
to see if we continue to
[1:48:38]
reflect that in the budget.
[1:48:41]
>> anything else on that?
[1:48:47]
>> I think you can understand
[1:48:49]
why I was somewhat
[1:48:51]
puzzled by those.
[1:48:53]
I almost call them extremist if
[1:48:54]
you need to pull on
[1:48:54]
those.
[1:48:57]
It's just a lot of codes.
[1:48:59]
That what seemed unusual.
[1:49:04]
thanks george.
[1:49:04]
>> supervisor cortese?
[1:49:06]
>> this is kind of a general
[1:49:09]
question about the fte
[1:49:10]
that will be seen throughout
[1:49:13]
the budget in terms of ab109
[1:49:15]
and the add ons.
[1:49:17]
I'm not really clear.
[1:49:21]
I didn't catch it in the
[1:49:23]
overview or anything yet, as
[1:49:26]
to what the bigger picture is.
[1:49:28]
Obviously, the reentry program
[1:49:29]
started in this current
[1:49:30]
fiscal year.
[1:49:34]
It started in prior calendar
[1:49:35]
year.
[1:49:38]
I don't recall how we factored
[1:49:42]
in covering the cost of
[1:49:42]
that.
[1:49:43]
Obviously reimburses from the
[1:49:45]
state.
[1:49:48]
How we factored in terms of fte.
[1:49:50]
How we getting by.
[1:49:52]
There must be some strategy
[1:49:55]
beneath all of this is is
[1:49:59]
ramping up with the program to
[1:49:59]
add fte.
[1:50:01]
I do see the revenue coming in
[1:50:02]
the documents I don't
[1:50:08]
know what the methods to to
[1:50:10]
the madness is.
[1:50:12]
The way we receive it it's
[1:50:19]
pieced in unit byunit.
[1:50:20]
Maybe for the benefit for the
[1:50:22]
rest of us, you can tell
[1:50:25]
us how does that ramping
[1:50:25]
working?
[1:50:27]
I didn't really want to put
[1:50:28]
that on one unit here.
[1:50:32]
>> in the front of the
[1:50:36]
document, there's a section on
[1:50:55]
ab109 that 109 attempts.
[1:50:57]
The department created a plan
[1:50:58]
to how we approach this.
[1:51:02]
The key factor is to recognize
[1:51:03]
the fact since this was
[1:51:07]
a major change, a change in a
[1:51:08]
that we recognized there would
[1:51:13]
be things happening where we
[1:51:13]
have to adjust.
[1:51:14]
It's a flexible plan.
[1:51:15]
Over the course since October
[1:51:17]
1, we come back to the
[1:51:19]
board on two different
[1:51:21]
occasions to make modifications
[1:51:24]
already to the plan.
[1:51:26]
we attempting to -- what we
[1:51:27]
seeing we given forecast.
[1:51:31]
As we implement the programs we
[1:51:33]
are adjusting based on
[1:51:34]
the actual experience.
[1:51:36]
It's not as if it's a hard and
[1:51:38]
fast plan because we're
[1:51:40]
trying to be flexible.
[1:51:42]
As jeff mentioned in the
[1:51:44]
introduction, we plan for
[1:51:48]
basic. Getting a doubling of
[1:51:49]
our resource and so what's in
[1:51:52]
front of you in terms of the
[1:51:53]
recommended budget, reflects
[1:51:53]
that.
[1:51:57]
There are an impact in terms of
[1:52:02]
ftes in each the
[1:52:04]
area, collection, probation and
[1:52:05]
custody health.
[1:52:06]
There's impacts more service
[1:52:07]
and contract related drug
[1:52:09]
and alcohol and mental health
[1:52:11]
type of services. It's a
[1:52:11]
combination.
[1:52:14]
What we're trying to reflect is
[1:52:16]
our actual experience
[1:52:17]
in the area that is
[1:52:19]
particularly clear to us as
[1:52:19]
probation.
[1:52:22]
We trying to keep a 1 to 30
[1:52:25]
case load to make sure the
[1:52:28]
over sight is very intense.
[1:52:29]
Corrections is a little bit
[1:52:30]
more difficult because
[1:52:39]
we're changing the nature of
[1:52:42]
our collection system.
[1:52:42]
Previously, we rarely had
[1:52:43]
people here only a year.
[1:52:45]
We have to look at how we're
[1:52:47]
going to manage that
[1:52:48]
change in the geopopulation.
[1:52:51]
>> is it fair to say we're
[1:52:52]
extrapolating growth based
[1:52:54]
on our immediate past
[1:52:55]
experience, which only been
[1:52:57]
about 6
[1:52:59]
offer 8 months?
[1:53:02]
In the formula over all seems
[1:53:06]
to be a doubling of
[1:53:08]
resources?
[1:53:10]
sounds like there's nuances in
[1:53:11]
each unit?
[1:53:14]
>> their ramping up as we see
[1:53:14]
more individuals coming
[1:53:16]
out of state prison, we become
[1:53:20]
more responsible for in terms
[1:53:20]
of parole/probation.
[1:53:22]
We also seeing increase in the
[1:53:24]
number of individuals
[1:53:25]
coming into our local jail
[1:53:27]
system.
[1:53:29]
these are known the 117hs that
[1:53:30]
would have gone to
[1:53:30]
state prison.
[1:53:32]
You end up with this increase
[1:53:33]
and then people start to
[1:53:37]
be released and you end up with
[1:53:38]
sort of a plateau effect.
[1:53:40]
We have projections from the
[1:53:41]
state in terms of the
[1:53:43]
numbers of people we're getting
[1:53:44]
out of the state prison
[1:53:48]
system that would have normally
[1:53:49]
gone to state parole.
[1:53:53]
we know the individual that are
[1:53:53]
being sentenced.
[1:54:00]
I'm getting more detail here.
[1:54:01]
There's changes in the way
[1:54:02]
inmates are sentenced. Some
[1:54:05]
are sentenced without any
[1:54:07]
probation and some are split
[1:54:07]
sentences.
[1:54:10]
we have to take all of those
[1:54:13]
factors into account to
[1:54:14]
determine what's the
[1:54:16]
appropriate level.
[1:54:18]
We have the spillover in terms
[1:54:19]
of custody health as
[1:54:21]
more people are sicker and
[1:54:24]
trying to manage all of that in
[1:54:27]
terms of how we're allocating
[1:54:27]
our resources.
[1:54:29]
The other focus is making sure
[1:54:30]
these people have the
[1:54:37]
services that they need to avoid
[1:54:39]
recidivating
[1:54:42]
>> that's been a helpful
[1:54:45]
overview.
[1:54:47]
I heard bits and pieces
[1:54:53]
depending on who office I was
[1:54:56]
sitting on.
[1:54:57]
I understand all that was put
[1:54:58]
together by the teams
[1:54:59]
that have been working on this
[1:55:03]
and you brought it back down
[1:55:04]
unit by unit.
[1:55:05]
The board of supervisors
[1:55:09]
ultimate question is, having
[1:55:10]
done that, you then match those
[1:55:13]
unit numbers up with the
[1:55:14]
revenue.
[1:55:18]
I don't want to call it new
[1:55:20]
money.
[1:55:21]
There's in general fund
[1:55:21]
encroachment.
[1:55:22]
I don't what keep asking that
[1:55:23]
question.
[1:55:24]
That's what I'm really after
[1:55:25]
here.
[1:55:29]
I need it understand the
[1:55:39]
process, any time we see these
[1:55:41]
ab109 ft es ramping up, that's
[1:55:44]
going to come from the unit
[1:55:44]
of that state.
[1:55:45]
It's a wash.
[1:55:48]
>> the dollars allocated for
[1:55:50]
the ab109 expenses are
[1:55:52]
100% coming from the state.
[1:55:58]
we tie them directly.
[1:55:59]
There's no discretionary
[1:56:00]
general fund impact.
[1:56:02]
So far.
[1:56:07]
>> thank you very much.
[1:56:11]
That was one of the concerns
[1:56:16]
that part $15 billion
[1:56:17]
balancing act might pull the
[1:56:19]
rug out from under us.
[1:56:20]
I appreciate the explanation.
[1:56:24]
I was just worried that these
[1:56:26]
fte May not have been
[1:56:29]
unit by unit balance against
[1:56:29]
the revenue.
[1:56:31]
If I was in the unit, I would
[1:56:47]
say this is what I need.
[1:56:49]
>> we're really managing the
[1:56:51]
funding allocations from
[1:56:52]
the county executive's office
[1:56:56]
working closely with the ccp.
[1:56:58]
The thing that is really
[1:57:01]
interesting is that -- one of
[1:57:02]
the things we will be talking
[1:57:04]
about is that the preliminary
[1:57:05]
formula or funding allocation
[1:57:08]
looks like it's going to
[1:57:12]
allocate more than we assumed.
[1:57:14]
Recognizing the concerns that
[1:57:15]
everyone rightly has with
[1:57:16]
the state deficit increasing, I
[1:57:19]
think it's going to give us
[1:57:21]
an opportunity to reserve
[1:57:22]
significant portion and hold it
[1:57:26]
until we have more confidence
[1:57:27]
that those allocations are
[1:57:28]
going to be stable.
[1:57:30]
Of course, one of the issues is
[1:57:31]
going to be what
[1:57:31]
happens in November.
[1:57:32]
There is a funding guarantee
[1:57:35]
that will be on the ballot
[1:57:39]
for the ab109, the public
[1:57:40]
safety realignment.
[1:57:43]
>> we'll talk more about that
[1:57:44]
on thursday.
[1:57:45]
Supervisor wassermann.
[1:57:47]
>> very quickly, I really
[1:57:50]
appreciate the point
[1:57:51]
supervisor cortese brought up.
[1:57:52]
President Shirakawa you made
[1:57:55]
about the rug coming out
[1:57:56]
from under us.
[1:58:03]
the reason if hasn't happened,
[1:58:04]
they jumped to three
[1:58:04]
days ago.
[1:58:07]
The question I had was on page
[1:58:08]
four, talking about
[1:58:11]
custody health services
[1:58:13]
highlight to fiscal year '12.
[1:58:17]
it talks about two out of three
[1:58:19]
inmate receive medical
[1:58:20]
services daily.
[1:58:21]
That's an astounding number to
[1:58:22]
me.
[1:58:24]
I learn more every single day
[1:58:29]
while I'm in office.
[1:58:31]
With the transitions taking
[1:58:31]
place with those being
[1:58:33]
transferred from the state to
[1:58:36]
county, I imagine it's about
[1:58:36]
the same.
[1:58:38]
because of the nature of the
[1:58:40]
individuals that were the
[1:58:44]
state prison, I understand
[1:58:49]
there's severity seriousness of
[1:58:51]
crimes committed are the
[1:58:52]
make-up the prisoners?
[1:58:57]
I think it changes over time.
[1:58:59]
will the medical needs increase
[1:59:00]
greater still with
[1:59:02]
those being transferred over?
[1:59:05]
>> let me make a point of
[1:59:06]
clarification, the inmate who
[1:59:10]
within the jail system, the
[1:59:14]
ab109 inmates, we are familiar
[1:59:16]
with them because they've been
[1:59:17]
incarcerated and gone through
[1:59:18]
trial and they are sentenced.
[1:59:20]
we believe in providing care to
[1:59:21]
them.
[1:59:25]
They now just in a new bucket.
[1:59:28]
Now they are ab109 inmay notes.
[1:59:29]
The inmates from the prison
[1:59:31]
system who being released
[1:59:33]
from the prison, we do not
[1:59:36]
provide services to them within
[1:59:37]
the jail.
[1:59:42]
>> they're all probationary?
[1:59:45]
>> yes.
[1:59:46]
We would establish primary
[1:59:50]
clinic center. We would
[1:59:54]
have the doors open to them.
[1:59:55]
>> thank you for that
[1:59:56]
clarification.
[1:59:58]
>> with respect do we
[1:59:59]
anticipate that the healthcare
[2:00:00]
needs essentially going to
[2:00:06]
change this population, we do.
[2:00:08]
In the past, although many May
[2:00:09]
stay with us many years
[2:00:13]
while they going through their
[2:00:15]
trial, generally, period of
[2:00:18]
time within the jail maybe 150
[2:00:20]
average length of stay.
[2:00:23]
we didn't necessarily need to
[2:00:24]
provide services.
[2:00:27]
For instance someone had a
[2:00:29]
minor hernia, we would not
[2:00:31]
support having that hernia
[2:00:33]
repaired while they were in
[2:00:33]
custody.
[2:00:36]
It would be taken care when
[2:00:36]
they were released.
[2:00:38]
Now that they are going to be
[2:00:40]
sentenced to the jail, we
[2:00:41]
need to provide those services
[2:00:42]
for them.
[2:00:48]
In fact, we need to provide
[2:00:49]
preventive healthcare
[2:00:50]
services because they are going
[2:00:51]
to be with us year after
[2:00:52]
year.
[2:00:55]
We do anticipate there will be
[2:00:56]
very significant
[2:00:56]
changes.
[2:00:59]
>> I like to expand on that a
[2:01:00]
little bit.
[2:01:05]
it is also true that the
[2:01:06]
inmates who classically are in
[2:01:10]
prison or has been in prison
[2:01:14]
tend to be less healthy than
[2:01:15]
what has classically been in
[2:01:15]
jail.
[2:01:18]
That has to do with a lot of
[2:01:21]
factors but when you
[2:01:22]
figure that the vast majority
[2:01:24]
of the crimes that are
[2:01:25]
committed that result in people
[2:01:28]
being in jail are drug
[2:01:30]
related and violence related
[2:01:32]
and people typically also
[2:01:37]
taking their own drugs.
[2:01:39]
We are much more able to keep
[2:01:41]
people alive for longer
[2:01:42]
periods of time.
[2:01:46]
lots of people with chronic
[2:01:48]
heart disease, chronic lung
[2:01:49]
disease, chronic kidney
[2:01:53]
disease, diabetes, all kinds of
[2:01:54]
other issues infection, tb, hiv
[2:01:58]
and various sort of things.
[2:02:00]
As maryann brings out, now that
[2:02:01]
we're going to be
[2:02:02]
responsible for these people
[2:02:06]
for a longer period of time,
[2:02:08]
we're going to be responsible
[2:02:12]
for things like transplants,
[2:02:15]
dialysis, lots of very
[2:02:16]
expensive procedures.
[2:02:18]
>> you're saying they let
[2:02:20]
health insurance lapse?
[2:02:24]
>> we don't --
[2:02:25]
>> I'm kidding.
[2:02:26]
>> the question you are getting
[2:02:28]
at, they're going to
[2:02:31]
get more extensive and the
[2:02:35]
answer is question yes, lot
[2:02:58]
more.
[2:03:04]
>> I wanted to ask board of
[2:03:07]
supervisors so extend
[2:03:10]
services to juvenile hall.
[2:03:15]
They get visit one day a week.
[2:03:20]
With 60% of the kids, have
[2:03:21]
serious dental issues.
[2:03:25]
It was also noted in the last
[2:03:25]
juvenile justice report
[2:03:29]
several grievances were filed
[2:03:32]
by you because dental payments
[2:03:33]
were delayed.
[2:03:35]
We all know how much dental
[2:03:36]
pain interferes with your
[2:03:42]
ability to learn and behave.
[2:03:45]
I know san diego is a much
[2:03:47]
larger system but they have
[2:03:47]
two full time dentist.
[2:03:51]
We need to figure out how to do
[2:03:52]
this because these kids
[2:03:56]
-- they have so many issues
[2:03:59]
with them.
[2:03:59]
Thank you.
[2:04:02]
>> any other questions on this
[2:04:04]
unit?
[2:04:10]
i see none, thank you.
[2:04:32]
next unit is 417.
[2:04:34]
>> good afternoon President And
[2:04:37]
board members.
[2:04:38]
I'm bruce copeley.
[2:04:41]
I'm here to review our
[2:04:42]
recommended budget.
[2:04:46]
I would draw your attention to
[2:04:47]
two elements.
[2:04:52]
the first is a recommendation
[2:04:56]
for authorization for
[2:04:58]
$311,000 for two psychiatric
[2:05:00]
social workers and a
[2:05:02]
replacement of dollars lost for
[2:05:03]
half time psychiatric social
[2:05:04]
worker.
[2:05:07]
These are individuals that are
[2:05:10]
working at the park and
[2:05:13]
adopted at the clinic to
[2:05:14]
provide additional medical
[2:05:14]
services.
[2:05:17]
They will be providing
[2:05:19]
screenings, consultation to the
[2:05:21]
primary care doctors and
[2:05:23]
treatment.
[2:05:30]
The second is $401,000 that is
[2:05:32]
for augmentation and
[2:05:33]
enrollment of clients into the
[2:05:34]
valley care.
[2:05:36]
These are fees previously
[2:05:36]
collected both from the
[2:05:38]
county department as well as
[2:05:41]
from our contract agencies.
[2:05:43]
With enrollment of valley care
[2:05:44]
that is eliminated to
[2:05:45]
continue the capacity necessary
[2:05:47]
to serve these individuals
[2:05:55]
and to bring in enrollment in
[2:05:56]
anticipation medi-cal
[2:05:57]
qualification.
[2:05:58]
We're recommending these
[2:05:59]
dollars be added.
[2:06:02]
The final good news is,
[2:06:03]
approximately $2 million of
[2:06:05]
additional 109 moneys that are
[2:06:07]
recommended to be brought
[2:06:09]
into the department to stand
[2:06:11]
both outpatient services and
[2:06:11]
residential services.
[2:06:15]
currently we have a waiting
[2:06:16]
list from ab109.
[2:06:18]
It will substantially reduce
[2:06:19]
that waiting list and
[2:06:20]
allow us to serve the
[2:06:24]
individuals that are now coming
[2:06:24]
for
[2:06:25]
into ab109 process.
[2:06:27]
With that I'll take any
[2:06:28]
questions or clarifications you
[2:06:32]
would like from me.
[2:06:35]
>> let me just start by saying
[2:06:37]
thank you.
[2:06:40]
Last year we talked about the
[2:06:41]
gateway program.
[2:06:44]
We all know people are ready to
[2:06:46]
make that change and so
[2:06:48]
appreciate that effort.
[2:06:49]
You mentioned the $2 million.
[2:06:52]
Hopefully it will free up this
[2:06:54]
$2 million more services
[2:06:56]
for others.
[2:06:57]
That's a good thing.
[2:06:58]
Supervisor wassermann?
[2:07:00]
>> just a quick question, one
[2:07:01]
way or another, how long
[2:07:03]
have you been with the county?
[2:07:08]
>> 24 years in another month.
[2:07:11]
14 years with dad and 10 years
[2:07:11]
with mental health.
[2:07:14]
>> it's probably a good time to
[2:07:16]
think about, I know
[2:07:21]
folks have talked previewed
[2:07:24]
some kind of behavior health
[2:07:26]
department from a dads merger.
[2:07:29]
I know others out there talked
[2:07:30]
about it.
[2:07:34]
I'm just throwing that out
[2:07:36]
there as a comment.
[2:07:38]
>> I know that the issue has
[2:07:41]
been discussed.
[2:07:43]
I just met this morning with
[2:07:44]
bruce.
[2:07:45]
He's getting up to speed.
[2:07:49]
We're looking at all of our
[2:07:52]
options at to point and
[2:07:53]
pluses and minuses to no matter
[2:07:55]
what you do and nothing will
[2:07:57]
be done without stakeholderrer
[2:07:58]
input.
[2:07:59]
>> it doesn't hurt to have the
[2:08:00]
discussion for sure.
[2:08:02]
That's all I'm saying.
[2:08:03]
>> I understand.
[2:08:06]
>> I don't have any other
[2:08:06]
lights on thank you.
[2:08:11]
We'll move on to the next
[2:08:15]
section, unit 418, community
[2:08:25]
health services.
[2:08:31]
>> dave wright, directors of
[2:08:32]
ambulatory care services.
[2:08:35]
Our community health services
[2:08:41]
is composed of two
[2:08:44]
community health clinics.
[2:08:48]
They also receive the unit and
[2:08:49]
diversity award by the
[2:08:53]
board of supervisors.
[2:08:59]
our tb clinic and refugee
[2:09:03]
clinic, they have the liest
[2:09:05]
numbers coming from iran,
[2:09:07]
burma, iraq and china.
[2:09:14]
No budget changes are proposed
[2:09:22]
for fy '13.
[2:09:24]
>> I don't have any lights on.
[2:09:27]
You're off the hook.
[2:09:30]
Good job dave.
[2:09:35]
Item 12, unit 725.
[2:09:40]
valley health plan.
[2:09:45]
>> hello.
[2:09:45]
Greg price.
[2:09:47]
Valley health plan has a
[2:09:48]
commercial plan.
[2:09:50]
We had a very successful year
[2:09:52]
this year.
[2:09:53]
We approach being 15,000
[2:09:55]
commercial members.
[2:09:58]
We also manage medi-cal,
[2:10:00]
healthy kids healthy families
[2:10:01]
for valley medical center.
[2:10:03]
We're getting on to about
[2:10:06]
90,000 new lives and we're
[2:10:07]
forecasting about 184 million
[2:10:08]
next year in revenue.
[2:10:14]
All of our positions for fy '12
[2:10:15]
were paid for.
[2:10:17]
We're in the asking for any new
[2:10:18]
money.
[2:10:19]
any questions about the budget?
[2:10:22]
>> I don't have any lights.
[2:10:22]
No, thank you.
[2:10:27]
>> always a pleasure.
[2:10:31]
Thanks.
[2:10:32]
>> we still --
[2:10:33]
>> we should mention at health
[2:10:34]
and hospital committee,
[2:10:37]
we discussed all of these.
[2:10:39]
>> as a case with all the
[2:10:41]
sections and committees
[2:10:44]
either have or will have
[2:10:45]
detailed discussions.
[2:10:45]
Thank you.
[2:10:46]
Supervisor wassermann.
[2:10:49]
>> I want to mention that it's
[2:10:52]
a pleasure spending
[2:10:54]
hours going over these binders
[2:10:55]
with staff and discussing and
[2:10:58]
at the end hearing no new
[2:10:59]
changes, status quo that kind
[2:10:59]
of
[2:11:00]
thing.
[2:11:02]
Think you're all doing great
[2:11:05]
work.
[2:11:06]
>> thank you.
[2:11:07]
Item 410.
[2:11:09]
>> we'll start by going through
[2:11:14]
our highlights for the
[2:11:14]
year.
[2:11:18]
Really a huge thanks to our
[2:11:18]
board of supervisors for
[2:11:22]
being progressive in adopting a
[2:11:23]
number of health related
[2:11:24]
policies. Just a quick
[2:11:26]
refresher over this list.
[2:11:27]
We adopted a comprehensive food
[2:11:27]
and nutritional
[2:11:31]
policies which a lot of folks
[2:11:31]
worked on.
[2:11:34]
Both the city and county passed
[2:11:37]
a number of outdoor
[2:11:40]
smoke prevention policy
[2:11:45]
including tobacco retail
[2:11:45]
licensing.
[2:11:47]
We're in the line of to do the
[2:11:49]
latino health assessment
[2:11:57]
in the fall of 2012.
[2:11:58]
The vietnamese community it in
[2:11:58]
the bay area and become
[2:12:00]
state and nationally recognized.
[2:12:02]
as you will recall this time
[2:12:05]
ast year, we were talking
[2:12:07]
about a potential new vendor
[2:12:10]
for our ems system.
[2:12:12]
I'm pleased metro has been
[2:12:13]
performing good or better
[2:12:14]
than prior vendor.
[2:12:16]
The response time is slightly
[2:12:16]
better.
[2:12:18]
All in all slight improvement
[2:12:22]
in the system and kept
[2:12:23]
the system affordable.
[2:12:24]
now budget highlights.
[2:12:27]
Much like my other colleagues
[2:12:28]
our budget is essentially
[2:12:30]
level budget for this next
[2:12:31]
fiscal year.
[2:12:33]
No additional county general
[2:12:34]
fund augmentation request.
[2:12:35]
I will quickly run you through
[2:12:37]
where we're moving some
[2:12:39]
money.
[2:12:45]
we're moving essentially
[2:12:46]
$247,000 from federal fund.
[2:12:49]
I will start with accreditation.
[2:12:50]
As I mentioned before,
[2:12:51]
accreditation is a additional
[2:12:52]
public health effort.
[2:12:55]
We're going to be moving about
[2:12:56]
$95,000 into that
[2:12:57]
particular effort.
[2:12:58]
The latino health assessment
[2:13:03]
actually will cost us
[2:13:04]
around $250,000 to $300,000.
[2:13:08]
we need to move additional
[2:13:08]
$75,000 essentially out of
[2:13:09]
the administration in other
[2:13:12]
areas and back fill that.
[2:13:14]
Incidentally, we went out for
[2:13:16]
bids to do the community
[2:13:18]
neighborhood assessment for the
[2:13:18]
latino health assessment.
[2:13:20]
We got quotes as high as a
[2:13:21]
million dollars.
[2:13:22]
The fact that we're actually
[2:13:27]
able to deliver hopefully,
[2:13:28]
deliver an assessment during
[2:13:29]
financial health week, it's
[2:13:30]
quite an accomplishment for the
[2:13:31]
amount of money we're
[2:13:31]
working with.
[2:13:37]
We like to propose to move about
[2:13:43]
$30,000 into help
[2:13:44]
promotion media.
[2:13:47]
we were fortunate to have a
[2:13:48]
full time position.
[2:13:52]
We don't have a single dollar
[2:13:53]
behind her code this is
[2:13:54]
to recognize a small amount of
[2:13:58]
money for that type of work.
[2:14:00]
Public health preparedded, is
[2:14:01]
an interesting idea.
[2:14:04]
We never had any dedicated
[2:14:07]
staff.
[2:14:07]
This amount money coming from
[2:14:09]
internal resources which
[2:14:10]
fund a half time code.
[2:14:12]
We'd initially hope to work
[2:14:15]
with oes and faf to fund a
[2:14:16]
full time position and we could
[2:14:17]
have contributed half of
[2:14:17]
that.
[2:14:23]
We were not able to do this in
[2:14:26]
this budget cycle.
[2:14:29]
we have roughly $4 million in
[2:14:30]
inventory in the
[2:14:30]
warehouse.
[2:14:33]
By the time full lease payment
[2:14:35]
will be made, the county
[2:14:36]
well invested well over $10
[2:14:37]
million.
[2:14:38]
This particular code and the
[2:14:39]
reason I'm talking a
[2:14:41]
little bit more about this one,
[2:14:42]
is that this would be the
[2:14:45]
one and only individual
[2:14:46]
dedicated to nation sure that
[2:14:49]
warehouse is on a ready-go
[2:14:50]
status at all time.
[2:14:53]
It's able to both receive and
[2:14:54]
deploy goods in rain out
[2:14:56]
of the warehouse in a disaster
[2:14:58]
situation.
[2:15:01]
The next item is interesting
[2:15:01]
one immunization clinic
[2:15:04]
staffing.
[2:15:06]
We have 1.5 vacant codes in
[2:15:09]
that particular code and we
[2:15:15]
will be adding 1.5 1.5 vacant
[2:15:15]
code.
[2:15:18]
We're going to be deleting a
[2:15:23]
vacant office specialist
[2:15:26]
and a vacant clinical nurse and
[2:15:31]
adding a full time office
[2:15:32]
specialist specializing in data
[2:15:33]
entry.
[2:15:34]
Then the childhood led poison
[2:15:37]
program, we are losing a
[2:15:40]
state grant of just under
[2:15:41]
$94,000.
[2:15:45]
Therefore we're going to let
[2:15:47]
go of a vacant position.
[2:15:49]
This is cleanup from last
[2:15:51]
budget year.
[2:15:55]
We had lost grant last budget
[2:15:55]
cycle.
[2:15:56]
This is actually a cleanup that
[2:15:58]
is to say that the
[2:15:59]
services have not been provided
[2:16:01]
for the full fiscal year.
[2:16:04]
The child, health and
[2:16:04]
disability prevention, we're
[2:16:09]
going to be deleting a vacant
[2:16:12]
public health nurse three
[2:16:12]
code.
[2:16:16]
That's due to the fact we're
[2:16:17]
losing $110,000 state
[2:16:18]
grant.
[2:16:20]
That particular line item
[2:16:28]
allows us to move $22,000 to
[2:16:30]
general fund.
[2:16:33]
we ask pharmacy to be very
[2:16:33]
aggressive on object two
[2:16:34]
cost.
[2:16:38]
Really bringing down the cost
[2:16:39]
of pharmaceuticals, we're
[2:16:42]
able to move about $2000 of
[2:16:47]
what's county general fund.
[2:16:50]
Any questions?
[2:16:51]
>> supervisor kniss?
[2:16:54]
>> just some comments and a
[2:16:54]
couple questions.
[2:16:57]
One of the thing I like to call
[2:16:59]
out is that with all of
[2:17:02]
our employees, we happen to
[2:17:06]
work particularly closely with
[2:17:08]
dan peddycord.
[2:17:11]
We came to me the other night
[2:17:11]
with comprehensive plan.
[2:17:15]
it was a challenging meeting.
[2:17:21]
He handled it well.
[2:17:26]
I want to call out that also on
[2:17:26]
a national level, we
[2:17:29]
have nose who play a major role
[2:17:33]
and dan you're one of those.
[2:17:37]
That would lead me into talking
[2:17:37]
about the prevention
[2:17:42]
fund which is part of the aca.
[2:17:46]
One that naco and c-sac worked
[2:17:47]
hard to protect.
[2:17:50]
I had the health steering
[2:17:50]
committee for naco.
[2:17:53]
that is one of our top
[2:17:54]
priorities.
[2:17:55]
The reason that's so important
[2:17:58]
that is where we have
[2:18:00]
applied some time grants do
[2:18:02]
come from other places. That
[2:18:02]
is
[2:18:05]
place where we can get grants.
[2:18:07]
That is where some money can
[2:18:08]
come in for just the kind
[2:18:11]
of thing we talk about, led
[2:18:12]
poisoning and so forth.
[2:18:13]
There are issues that are
[2:18:14]
looking for thousands of
[2:18:16]
dollars and not for millions.
[2:18:19]
They make a big difference in
[2:18:19]
counties.
[2:18:23]
It is a fund that is constantly
[2:18:24]
in jeopardy that
[2:18:27]
congress looks at it like it's
[2:18:29]
a flush fund.
[2:18:31]
Prevention doesn't have any
[2:18:33]
great payback as far as
[2:18:34]
they are concerned.
[2:18:38]
It's a lot easier also if we
[2:18:38]
put money into acute care
[2:18:40]
and than it is to put into
[2:18:41]
expression.
[2:18:44]
It's one of areas public health
[2:18:46]
keeps working hard.
[2:18:47]
Marty is part of the national
[2:18:48]
group as well.
[2:18:51]
I just want to say out loud
[2:18:54]
both marty and for dan, i
[2:18:56]
so appreciate your service
[2:18:59]
because we do get heard around
[2:18:59]
the country.
[2:19:02]
We are recognized being a
[2:19:05]
county that really does do
[2:19:07]
excellent work in the
[2:19:07]
healthcare field.
[2:19:11]
>> thank you very much
[2:19:12]
supervisor kniss.
[2:19:14]
By 2014 that fund is suppose to
[2:19:15]
be about $2 billion on
[2:19:16]
a national level.
[2:19:17]
It represents the first time
[2:19:19]
the federal government put
[2:19:20]
some real financial backbone
[2:19:21]
into prevention.
[2:19:23]
We were the fortunate
[2:19:25]
recipients through the
[2:19:26]
community
[2:19:27]
prevention work money for
[2:19:29]
obesity that is reflected this
[2:19:31]
that fund.
[2:19:34]
Those funds seeming to come to
[2:19:36]
an end here in our
[2:19:36]
county.
[2:19:38]
>> thank you having said that,
[2:19:41]
we have a couple
[2:19:42]
questions.
[2:19:45]
We just talked about emergency
[2:19:46]
warehouse position.
[2:19:47]
Do we have any other department
[2:19:51]
in the county that has
[2:19:54]
any role in that warehouse?
[2:19:57]
i only visited it once.
[2:19:59]
>> we have a small presence
[2:20:00]
there.
[2:20:01]
The sheriff's office has a
[2:20:02]
small presence there.
[2:20:04]
We try to work with those
[2:20:06]
partners to fill out the
[2:20:08]
other half of the fte that full
[2:20:11]
time code was justified for
[2:20:14]
the amount of assets in that
[2:20:15]
warehouse.
[2:20:17]
they were not able to fund that
[2:20:18]
particular request.
[2:20:19]
Our proposal was to go forward
[2:20:20]
at least with the half
[2:20:20]
time code.
[2:20:23]
>> thank you, I appreciate that.
[2:20:25]
The other one regards the
[2:20:28]
ongoing money for the phd
[2:20:29]
accreditation, prep and
[2:20:29]
application.
[2:20:32]
Does it need to be ongoing
[2:20:32]
situation?
[2:20:39]
is that one to be a downside to
[2:20:39]
one time money?
[2:20:41]
>> we're looking at that level
[2:20:42]
of commitment on ongoing
[2:20:43]
basis.
[2:20:44]
Once we reached point of
[2:20:48]
applying, we will need to send
[2:20:49]
in about $55,000 check. This
[2:20:51]
that's good for five years.
[2:20:53]
However, most department of our
[2:20:57]
size are looking a the
[2:20:59]
staffing 1-3 fte full time
[2:21:02]
dedicated accreditation.
[2:21:03]
What accreditation is
[2:21:05]
instilling high level of
[2:21:06]
quality
[2:21:06]
insurance performance
[2:21:07]
improvement across an entire
[2:21:08]
organization.
[2:21:10]
That takes small investment of
[2:21:11]
human resources.
[2:21:13]
>> so, I guess my question
[2:21:15]
would be, because once we've
[2:21:17]
gotten into ongoing, we tend to
[2:21:21]
not look at it again as you
[2:21:21]
know.
[2:21:25]
You feel that's justified and
[2:21:26]
something that we should
[2:21:27]
include over the next several
[2:21:29]
years?
[2:21:32]
>> yes, I would very much
[2:21:33]
supervisor kniss.
[2:21:38]
We are moving other fte within
[2:21:39]
the department to back
[2:21:39]
our resource need.
[2:21:41]
Rather than coming to you and
[2:21:44]
asking for a financial
[2:21:46]
augmentation for fte, we felt
[2:21:50]
$95,000 if it stays relatively
[2:21:53]
level should afford reasonable
[2:21:55]
level of resource to sustain
[2:21:56]
journey to accreditation.
[2:21:58]
>> okay, thanks.
[2:21:58]
>> besides supervisor the
[2:22:01]
president announced on the
[2:22:02]
state of the county.
[2:22:04]
>> you know, george, you said
[2:22:05]
it.
[2:22:06]
It's got to be true.
[2:22:22]
>> dan, just a couple things.
[2:22:23]
When it comes to trauma and
[2:22:25]
violence and injury and all
[2:22:26]
of those issues, you guys are
[2:22:27]
the experts I'm not.
[2:22:32]
I can tell you, you come from a
[2:22:33]
community of me -- I
[2:22:36]
don't need to study, I don't
[2:22:37]
need experts tell us the impact
[2:22:38]
it has.
[2:22:45]
we all know the impact of those
[2:22:50]
-- obviously smoking
[2:22:50]
thing.
[2:22:50]
Interinterrelated.
[2:22:52]
I want to thank you for your
[2:22:53]
work and I know the
[2:22:57]
committee will continue to have
[2:22:58]
discussions.
[2:23:01]
I think it was a one man
[2:23:02]
discussion last time.
[2:23:04]
I appreciate your efforts for
[2:23:06]
sure and you can expect
[2:23:09]
memo from supervisor kniss and
[2:23:10]
I here shortly.
[2:23:13]
Certainly finding someone to
[2:23:15]
help coordinate some of
[2:23:24]
those efforts.
[2:23:26]
I just want to say that and
[2:23:29]
thank you at this time and
[2:23:31]
of course, some of the staff
[2:23:32]
offline will ask you a few
[2:23:34]
things to bring back in the
[2:23:34]
future.
[2:23:38]
Anything else on this item
[2:23:38]
before the board?
[2:23:42]
See none, thank you again.
[2:23:46]
we're down to our last, before
[2:23:52]
we recess, last unit,
[2:23:54]
412, mental health department.
[2:24:06]
i see Dr. Pena making a way up.
[2:24:08]
>> good afternoon.
[2:24:09]
President Shirakawa and board
[2:24:10]
of supervisors, nancy
[2:24:12]
pena, mental health director.
[2:24:16]
I am going to briefly talk
[2:24:18]
about our highlights from
[2:24:19]
this past year.
[2:24:22]
We've been extremely busy.
[2:24:24]
Thanks to really the support of
[2:24:26]
the full board, mental
[2:24:29]
health has been extremely busy
[2:24:33]
and a very happy with our
[2:24:35]
activities.
[2:24:36]
School link services
[2:24:38]
initiative, we are getting for
[2:24:38]
the
[2:24:41]
launch in fiscal year '13.
[2:24:43]
Our older adult summit is also
[2:24:44]
creating some
[2:24:45]
implementation planning that we
[2:24:46]
will also bring forward as
[2:24:49]
we go into the next year.
[2:24:51]
Certainly our partnership with
[2:24:53]
ab109 and the ccp and
[2:24:55]
all of the county departments
[2:24:57]
that are participating in that
[2:24:58]
has been extremely rewarding
[2:25:01]
and we really look forward to
[2:25:04]
the next year as we go forward.
[2:25:06]
then as we do continue our work
[2:25:09]
with the mental health
[2:25:11]
services act and our interface
[2:25:13]
with various innovations
[2:25:15]
projects as well as
[2:25:18]
partnership, we're extremely
[2:25:18]
busy right
[2:25:18]
now.
[2:25:21]
One of the things I did want to
[2:25:23]
note that isn't on the
[2:25:25]
slides, it relates to the
[2:25:25]
mental health services acts.
[2:25:28]
This is an item that will be
[2:25:29]
coming forward to the
[2:25:30]
board.
[2:25:33]
Probably in August once you
[2:25:33]
return from the break.
[2:25:35]
That's just because the timing
[2:25:38]
for the mental health
[2:25:40]
services act annual report and
[2:25:41]
30 day posting that to the
[2:25:43]
public and then the hearing
[2:25:44]
that we have to have through
[2:25:45]
our
[2:25:46]
mental health board won't
[2:25:48]
happen until July probably.
[2:25:51]
That means that we now have to
[2:25:52]
come forward to you with
[2:25:55]
our full plan for the mental
[2:25:57]
health services act in August.
[2:25:59]
There will be some items on
[2:26:02]
there that we will be
[2:26:05]
requesting in terms of ftes or
[2:26:07]
funding for programs that
[2:26:08]
you will see at that time.
[2:26:10]
I just wanted to make sure that
[2:26:12]
are aware of that.
[2:26:15]
We are expecting with mental
[2:26:16]
health services act to
[2:26:22]
have about a 20% increase for
[2:26:22]
fiscal year '13.
[2:26:23]
That will pretty much pay for
[2:26:25]
most of the items that we
[2:26:28]
have funded with one time funds.
[2:26:29]
we'll be bringing that forward
[2:26:32]
and our budget for the
[2:26:33]
mental health services act next
[2:26:36]
year will be approximately
[2:26:37]
$53 million.
[2:26:38]
So it's a significant amount in
[2:26:39]
the mental health
[2:26:39]
department.
[2:26:42]
Going on to the items that we
[2:26:46]
have.
[2:26:48]
The first item should be in the
[2:26:50]
emerging issues.
[2:26:53]
We are exploring the
[2:26:54]
possibility of operating our
[2:26:58]
emergency site services as a
[2:27:00]
separate distinct stabilization
[2:27:00]
program.
[2:27:04]
You can operate these programs,
[2:27:05]
these emergency psychs
[2:27:07]
in two different ways.
[2:27:10]
one is attached to a hospitals
[2:27:12]
a an psych er the other
[2:27:15]
one is a free standing crisis
[2:27:17]
stabilization service.
[2:27:20]
Both of them would be locked
[2:27:21]
and contained and pretty
[2:27:23]
much in compliance with title 9.
[2:27:27]
We are really in the
[2:27:28]
exploratory phases.
[2:27:34]
we determine whether or not we
[2:27:34]
will be feasible.
[2:27:37]
If it is feasible, we will come
[2:27:38]
back to you later in
[2:27:42]
the fall with a proposal.
[2:27:47]
I wanted to make sure people
[2:27:52]
are seeing that we are
[2:27:54]
operating off the vmc license.
[2:27:55]
That is in the next fiscal
[2:27:56]
year, we'll be coming
[2:27:58]
forward with some plan about
[2:28:01]
that or at least some reports
[2:28:02]
on it.
[2:28:06]
The second item relates to
[2:28:10]
changes in the lives relates
[2:28:11]
to special education.
[2:28:12]
As aware the responsibility
[2:28:13]
that the mental health
[2:28:16]
department had and the counties
[2:28:19]
had has changed this fiscal
[2:28:21]
year.
[2:28:23]
This fiscal year '12 to fiscal
[2:28:24]
year '13 when the
[2:28:27]
schools will be solely
[2:28:38]
responsible for providing iep
[2:28:38]
related
[2:28:39]
service.
[2:28:43]
We will continue to be involved
[2:28:46]
as medi-cal
[2:28:51]
beneficiaries are served
[2:28:52]
through the health system he
[2:28:53]
will
[2:28:54]
no longer be the administrator
[2:28:55]
of the program.
[2:28:58]
Basically what this item, we're
[2:28:59]
downsizing somewhat the
[2:29:00]
budget that we have dedicated
[2:29:03]
to that in general fund.
[2:29:07]
Actually what we gend to do is
[2:29:09]
redirect equivalent
[2:29:13]
amount of two schooling
[2:29:16]
services to help support our
[2:29:17]
new
[2:29:18]
schooling services effort.
[2:29:22]
The next item really relates,
[2:29:23]
we talked to you about
[2:29:25]
this a little bit in this
[2:29:26]
fiscal year, programs were
[2:29:29]
transferred from dads to mental
[2:29:33]
health.
[2:29:40]
for the calworks treatment
[2:29:41]
services. This basically
[2:29:42]
moving the three administrative
[2:29:45]
staff who are connected to
[2:29:46]
those services from dads into
[2:29:48]
the mental health department.
[2:29:51]
The next item really is a no
[2:29:53]
cost item but it does
[2:29:55]
relate to priority of the board
[2:29:56]
and certainly the county
[2:29:59]
exec that we take a look at the
[2:30:02]
high users in our county
[2:30:03]
across departmentally.
[2:30:08]
Particularly those who are
[2:30:09]
homeless and chronically
[2:30:09]
homeless as well as those who
[2:30:13]
are involved in the criminal
[2:30:15]
justice system and the health
[2:30:16]
system.
[2:30:18]
Those we consider most frequent
[2:30:20]
users.
[2:30:21]
And really looking at
[2:30:23]
assessment of that population
[2:30:23]
to
[2:30:25]
see what we can do improve the
[2:30:26]
services that we offer as a
[2:30:29]
safety net for these
[2:30:30]
populations.
[2:30:32]
We also had some grant
[2:30:33]
terminations ending of grants.
[2:30:37]
we are picking those up in our
[2:30:40]
medi-cal program or
[2:30:43]
lihp, low income program.
[2:30:50]
We do have 4.5ftes that we
[2:30:59]
requested through the ab
[2:31:07]
ab109 program.
[2:31:10]
We also have a proposal here
[2:31:12]
that really is done in
[2:31:13]
collaboration with dads
[2:31:15]
regarding the low income health
[2:31:15]
plan
[2:31:19]
and our continuing to move
[2:31:22]
towards an expanded medi-cal
[2:31:25]
program and benefits beginning
[2:31:27]
in 2014.
[2:31:30]
In will add some qi staff and
[2:31:31]
health services
[2:31:32]
representative staff to mental
[2:31:35]
health that will be dedicated
[2:31:36]
to dads.
[2:31:39]
for the development more of a
[2:31:40]
managed care
[2:31:41]
infrastructure, getting ready
[2:31:44]
for the future when there will
[2:31:46]
be more individuals with
[2:31:50]
medi-cal benefit who will be
[2:31:50]
entitled to substance abuse
[2:31:53]
treatment as well as mental
[2:31:55]
health benefits.
[2:31:57]
Finally, the last item is three
[2:31:59]
contract staff.
[2:32:01]
These would all be be paid
[2:32:04]
through funding.
[2:32:07]
We came to you earlier through
[2:32:08]
the mental health
[2:32:09]
hospital for these positions.
[2:32:12]
These positions are desperately
[2:32:14]
needed a we move into
[2:32:19]
really processing close to 500
[2:32:22]
either contract, rfps,
[2:32:24]
mous we expect many for coming
[2:32:27]
with school link services
[2:32:29]
as we enter into agreements and
[2:32:31]
our provides across the
[2:32:32]
county to articulate services
[2:32:34]
that we'll be delivering.
[2:32:36]
These three staff are basic in
[2:32:38]
our contract units to
[2:32:41]
support the contracting process.
[2:32:45]
With that, I will welcome any
[2:32:48]
questions.
[2:32:49]
>> any questions.
[2:32:56]
I have one speaker.
[2:33:01]
sparky, good afternoon.
[2:33:02]
>> good afternoon.
[2:33:08]
I wasn't sure if this belonged
[2:33:11]
to you but it has to do
[2:33:12]
with my concern with rap
[2:33:13]
services.
[2:33:20]
the reduction of services that
[2:33:21]
emq and rebecca would
[2:33:21]
have.
[2:33:24]
If you've going to change
[2:33:24]
providers, that's fine with
[2:33:27]
me but I'm really concerned as
[2:33:29]
you're putting this stuff out
[2:33:31]
to bid, how you're going to
[2:33:31]
transfer clients over?
[2:33:35]
I know when I lost a grant that
[2:33:37]
we had for 25 years
[2:33:39]
with iop independent living
[2:33:40]
program, the kids were suppose
[2:33:42]
to transfer over and they did
[2:33:43]
not.
[2:33:44]
Because it was so tied to
[2:33:45]
provider, they really did not
[2:33:48]
want to transfer over to a new
[2:33:48]
provider.
[2:33:50]
Even though we tried really
[2:33:52]
hard to do that.
[2:33:54]
So my concern is that you
[2:33:57]
really look at how those
[2:34:00]
clients are going to transfer
[2:34:02]
over sense they are most
[2:34:05]
serious mentally ill clients
[2:34:06]
and look attrition fund to give
[2:34:09]
them time to transition out of
[2:34:10]
emq.
[2:34:11]
Another thought I have is
[2:34:13]
something I know county
[2:34:15]
department, how about
[2:34:16]
encouraging new providers to
[2:34:17]
hire
[2:34:17]
those people that will be laid
[2:34:18]
off.
[2:34:20]
I can tell you right now what's
[2:34:20]
happening.
[2:34:24]
there's a lot of movement in
[2:34:25]
nonprofit sector with
[2:34:27]
everybody is changing jobs.
[2:34:32]
We're all getting new contracts.
[2:34:37]
We're all hiring each other
[2:34:52]
staff.
[2:34:53]
>> any questions from the board
[2:34:57]
before we recess to
[2:34:58]
6:30?
[2:34:58]
Jeff?
[2:35:01]
Members of the boards, we will
[2:35:04]
recess until 6:30
[2:35:04]
exactly.
[2:59:41]
>> we have our hands full at
[2:59:45]
this time we do not have the
[2:59:46]
financial expertise to handle
[2:59:50]
these tasks at this time.
[2:59:52]
Nor do we feel that the cross
[2:59:55]
training is sustainable in the
[2:59:56]
long run.
[3:00:07]
And this will also relate to
[3:00:09]
policies and procedures for the
[3:00:10]
tasks.
[3:00:12]
Thank you for your time, only
[3:00:14]
financial experts can provide
[3:00:15]
financial expertise.
[3:00:23]
>> thank you.
[3:00:27]
>> I am brett russell, and an
[3:00:28]
am state administrator, and I
[3:00:31]
have been worked in the office
[3:00:34]
for 25 years and came in as an
[3:00:35]
entry level position.
[3:00:39]
I have worked myself up to the
[3:00:40]
state administrator position.
[3:00:46]
I was hired shortly after the
[3:00:48]
grand injury admin strargz that
[3:00:51]
held for the model was
[3:00:52]
insufficient to protect our
[3:01:00]
clients and the county
[3:06:28]
incompetence and waste.
[3:06:36]
>> good evening.
[3:06:40]
So first highlights from fiscal
[3:06:41]
year 12.
[3:06:44]
We have increased hours of
[3:06:46]
service at valley health center.
[3:06:50]
we have reduced our diversion
[3:06:51]
hours by 60%.
[3:06:55]
Meaning that we are open to
[3:06:56]
more ambulances arriving
[3:06:58]
serving our community.
[3:07:03]
We achieved our disrepresent
[3:07:05]
milestones for the year, and
[3:07:07]
collecting all revenue we could.
[3:07:10]
And we have begun installation
[3:07:12]
of the electronic record and
[3:07:16]
scheduled to go live on that.
[3:07:19]
We have formed a partnership
[3:07:23]
for fciu to help in health care
[3:07:23]
reform.
[3:07:25]
We have seen increase in
[3:07:27]
satisfaction over the last
[3:07:29]
three quarters.
[3:07:31]
And finally credited by the
[3:07:32]
american college surgeons for
[3:07:33]
burn care.
[3:07:35]
Those are the highlights of our
[3:07:39]
current fiscal year.
[3:07:45]
We have 15 budget proposals for
[3:07:46]
next fiscal year.
[3:07:51]
We started with a deficit of 84
[3:07:52]
million, once we based our
[3:07:54]
revenue and the experience of
[3:08:01]
the current fiscal year.
[3:08:03]
The item that genders the most
[3:08:06]
conversation is the clinic care
[3:08:06]
volume.
[3:08:08]
Some comments about where we
[3:08:14]
are with that in this year.
[3:08:16]
The projection for next fiscal
[3:08:24]
year is a 15% -- 14% drop from
[3:08:30]
the kurpt -- current year.
[3:08:33]
we believe this is an
[3:08:35]
achievable number.
[3:08:38]
This is a sustainable number.
[3:08:40]
We reduced our unused
[3:08:41]
appointment slots.
[3:08:45]
We have in our current clinic
[3:08:47]
scheduling system the capacity
[3:08:50]
to achieve this number.
[3:08:54]
and it's managed to fill every
[3:08:55]
appointment slot.
[3:08:57]
Which we have many strategies
[3:08:58]
to do.
[3:09:00]
The inpatient volume increase
[3:09:03]
is a result of down stream
[3:09:05]
revenue from increased primary
[3:09:07]
care volume.
[3:09:10]
And increase enrollment in our
[3:09:11]
low-income health plan that is
[3:09:15]
a later budget proposal.
[3:09:18]
It's simply a calculation.
[3:09:19]
Revenue cycle redesign.
[3:09:21]
We have four strategies to
[3:09:25]
bring in that additional $21
[3:09:26]
million.
[3:09:29]
And as the board is aware that
[3:09:31]
we brought in revenue
[3:09:32]
collection.
[3:09:36]
we are renegotiating some of
[3:09:40]
our surance -- insurance
[3:09:42]
contracts and working on
[3:09:47]
collections of lab and dialysis
[3:09:47]
centers.
[3:09:50]
Reduction of vacant positions,
[3:09:51]
these are positions that are
[3:09:53]
not currently filled.
[3:09:57]
that we don't intend to fill,
[3:10:03]
for which we are not use are
[3:10:06]
over time or extra help to get
[3:10:08]
the work done and believe we
[3:10:13]
can do without those 33
[3:10:14]
positions.
[3:10:17]
icpp-10 was delayed by cms by
[3:10:18]
one year.
[3:10:20]
But for the preparation of
[3:10:21]
implementation, we will have
[3:10:25]
some costs in the next fiscal
[3:10:35]
year, approximately 2.8 million.
[3:10:38]
Our core project for the
[3:10:40]
medical record, we figure
[3:10:42]
that's about 68 million, and I
[3:10:44]
believe that jeff covered that
[3:10:46]
earlier in the budget.
[3:10:47]
Covered by technology.
[3:10:49]
Is that correct?
[3:10:50]
Okay.
[3:10:51]
The cms incentive program.
[3:10:54]
As I mentioned earlier, one of
[3:10:55]
our highlights this fiscal year
[3:10:57]
is that we achieved all of
[3:10:59]
those revenues and goals as
[3:11:01]
required in that program.
[3:11:04]
We went back and looked at the
[3:11:06]
possibility for next year.
[3:11:11]
And we believe there is an
[3:11:12]
additional $5 million we can go
[3:11:14]
after and achieve.
[3:11:19]
our managed care contract this
[3:11:22]
is a renegotiation between
[3:11:30]
santa clara health care.
[3:11:34]
We have a different way of
[3:11:36]
calculating valley health plan
[3:11:39]
with transferring risk over to
[3:11:42]
them that dmc has had in the
[3:11:42]
past.
[3:11:44]
But had no control of that risk.
[3:11:48]
So this is more of an
[3:11:49]
accounting transaction to move
[3:11:51]
the revenue and expense to the
[3:11:55]
appropriate place in valley
[3:12:02]
health plan.
[3:12:05]
Cap conversion.
[3:12:06]
In the health plan, we started
[3:12:11]
the year with 8,000 enrollies.
[3:12:14]
And have a goal of 12,000
[3:12:16]
enrollies by the end of the
[3:12:20]
fiscal year, we are rapidly
[3:12:20]
approaching 10,000.
[3:12:22]
we believe this is achievable
[3:12:28]
to bump that enrollment up.
[3:12:30]
And our managed care contract
[3:12:32]
featured service.
[3:12:34]
A renegotiation of our future
[3:12:35]
service, santa clara health
[3:12:36]
plan contract.
[3:12:42]
and thal bring -- that will
[3:12:54]
bring an additional 7 million.
[3:13:03]
we are currently in
[3:13:06]
negotiations and we May be
[3:13:10]
reforced to reduce our
[3:13:15]
enicologists by 3.5 ftes.
[3:13:15]
The contract position budget,
[3:13:20]
in the past we used an outside
[3:13:30]
firm care and we brought our
[3:13:33]
physicians in and putting ftes
[3:13:37]
back in the budget and this is
[3:13:48]
cost neutral.
[3:13:50]
We have assistance in opening
[3:13:51]
the downtown location.
[3:14:05]
they did not get guarantee this
[3:14:05]
amount.
[3:14:13]
We are bringing this next area
[3:14:17]
in the custody health
[3:14:17]
discussion.
[3:14:28]
so questions?
[3:14:30]
>> with information about
[3:14:32]
gardener, I know at the hcc
[3:14:34]
meeting I asked questions and
[3:14:36]
didn't quite get clarification.
[3:14:38]
I knew we had given the 550,000
[3:14:42]
that we thought would cover the
[3:14:43]
expense.
[3:14:47]
but because they didn't get the
[3:14:48]
additional dollars.
[3:14:49]
Therefore we are covering it
[3:14:52]
and it wasn't covered by the
[3:14:53]
550,000?
[3:14:58]
>> I see that gary is reaching
[3:15:00]
for the microphone phone.
[3:15:01]
>> gardener's projection is
[3:15:03]
that in the first year of
[3:15:06]
operation, they require a
[3:15:07]
550,000 subsidy.
[3:15:10]
The second year of the
[3:15:13]
contract, they require a
[3:15:14]
$300,000 subsidy.
[3:15:15]
What happened here, we are
[3:15:18]
being a little conservative.
[3:15:19]
Because the original plan was
[3:15:21]
for gardener to open earlier.
[3:15:23]
So really what is happening,
[3:15:25]
right now we are hoping that
[3:15:27]
the downtown clinic will open
[3:15:28]
on June 1.
[3:15:30]
If we look at this on a
[3:15:31]
calendar basis.
[3:15:39]
Basically we are allocating
[3:15:46]
330,000 that is the amount for
[3:15:47]
2013 to 2014.
[3:15:48]
The timing is a little skewed.
[3:15:52]
But at this point in time the
[3:15:53]
expectation is that what we
[3:15:57]
were funding is a two-year
[3:15:59]
program effect.
[3:16:02]
And so the 550 is the first
[3:16:03]
year and 300 for the second
[3:16:04]
year.
[3:16:11]
over two years it's a title of
[3:16:15]
850,000 subdiddys are --
[3:16:18]
subsidy because they weren't
[3:16:20]
able to acquire the federal
[3:16:20]
funds.
[3:16:24]
>> but we anticipated that they
[3:16:27]
would and added that extra.
[3:16:30]
>> adding the 850,000, our hope
[3:16:32]
is that the amount they needed
[3:16:39]
to open -- operate on a
[3:16:40]
break-even basis.
[3:16:42]
And with the clients and
[3:16:46]
expenses results in a need for
[3:16:47]
a 550,000 requirement in the
[3:16:48]
first year.
[3:16:51]
And because of a ramping up and
[3:16:54]
seeing more clients, that
[3:16:56]
requirement will decline to
[3:16:56]
300,000.
[3:16:57]
Again this is based on forecast
[3:16:59]
and we will be working with
[3:17:01]
closely with them to see what
[3:17:02]
their needs are.
[3:17:06]
That at this point is what is
[3:17:07]
funded.
[3:17:09]
by allocating this 300,000, we
[3:17:11]
will have funded them for two
[3:17:11]
years.
[3:17:15]
>> and we are anticipating
[3:17:17]
gardener not receiving other
[3:17:18]
grants that they were expecting
[3:17:20]
and we would have to cover?
[3:17:22]
>> at this point this is the
[3:17:24]
maximum we expect to have to
[3:17:24]
fund.
[3:17:27]
>> okay, and also at our
[3:17:28]
meeting, I had asked a couple
[3:17:31]
of questions about the unused
[3:17:32]
appointment rate.
[3:17:34]
And maybe get a little more
[3:17:35]
understanding about that.
[3:17:41]
I know that the no-shows and
[3:17:42]
the unused appointment rate.
[3:17:44]
And maybe if you can talk a
[3:17:45]
little about both of those.
[3:17:48]
Where we have, I know we are
[3:17:50]
trying to increase the number
[3:17:54]
of patients that the dollars
[3:17:55]
-- doctors see.
[3:17:58]
And I assume that's the unused
[3:18:00]
appointment rate, trying to get
[3:18:01]
more patients in.
[3:18:04]
And making sure, in a way you
[3:18:06]
overbook, just in case you have
[3:18:07]
the no-show.
[3:18:08]
And can you talk about that.
[3:18:11]
and as we look at that and
[3:18:13]
reduce that, is that savings or
[3:18:15]
additional revenue and how that
[3:18:17]
will help the overall budget?
[3:18:19]
>> sure.
[3:18:21]
The unused appointment rate
[3:18:27]
that we used in the budget is
[3:18:27]
6.25%.
[3:18:30]
That's [Inaudible] Class is
[3:18:31]
zero.
[3:18:33]
There are physician practices
[3:18:40]
out there that fill every
[3:18:41]
appointment everyday.
[3:18:47]
And we get an unused
[3:18:48]
appointment rate daily.
[3:18:56]
and since we have studied
[3:19:01]
that, reduced our appointments.
[3:19:03]
And appointments go unused for
[3:19:07]
a variety of reasons.
[3:19:13]
we don't include the no-snow
[3:19:15]
-- no-show rate in the report.
[3:19:20]
That's a different piece of it.
[3:19:22]
An unused appointment is an
[3:19:24]
appointment where the patient
[3:19:31]
canceled in less than 24
[3:19:32]
hours and we weren't able to
[3:19:33]
fill that.
[3:19:36]
Or it's a case where the
[3:19:38]
patient demand wasn't there.
[3:19:40]
Or the appointments we had
[3:19:42]
availability for patient demand
[3:19:45]
didn't match the type that the
[3:19:46]
patient needed.
[3:19:50]
Maybe we had three return
[3:19:50]
appointment slots available.
[3:19:52]
And this was a new patient.
[3:19:55]
and we didn't have an
[3:19:57]
appointment slot for them that
[3:19:57]
day.
[3:20:04]
So there is a tremendous
[3:20:07]
science between managing of the
[3:20:08]
appointment schedule system so
[3:20:10]
every slot is filled.
[3:20:12]
What I can tell about the
[3:20:15]
budget, as compared to prior
[3:20:21]
years, this year's clinic
[3:20:23]
volume is based on what is in
[3:20:24]
the scheduling system.
[3:20:27]
We have a means electronically
[3:20:30]
and by schedule to achieve it.
[3:20:34]
And now it's as much about
[3:20:37]
massaging the types of
[3:20:37]
appointments.
[3:20:40]
And you know making sure that
[3:20:42]
there are very few unused
[3:20:45]
appointment slots on a daily
[3:20:45]
basis.
[3:20:47]
>> yeah, I know this is a one
[3:20:49]
part of a big puzzle we are
[3:20:51]
trying to work with, trying to
[3:20:52]
coordinate so many things in
[3:20:54]
the hospital that we haven't
[3:20:56]
been doing in the past.
[3:20:58]
And my congratulations to focus
[3:21:00]
in on that.
[3:21:02]
And because so much revenue May
[3:21:04]
be earned in addition, I am
[3:21:05]
glad that everyone is focusing
[3:21:06]
on that.
[3:21:08]
And trying to tweak that
[3:21:12]
schedule as ach -- as much as
[3:21:13]
they can.
[3:21:15]
>> thank you for the report.
[3:21:17]
on your first page of
[3:21:19]
highlights, I enjoyed seeing
[3:21:19]
that.
[3:21:22]
Second bullet from the end
[3:21:25]
talked about patients
[3:21:27]
increasing what would recommend
[3:21:29]
the facility to friends and
[3:21:29]
family.
[3:21:35]
A couple of weeks ago I saw
[3:21:37]
several graphs that recommend
[3:21:40]
them to noise at night and
[3:21:40]
cleanliness.
[3:21:42]
And not thrilled where it
[3:21:43]
showed that.
[3:21:48]
But I am thrilled improvement
[3:21:51]
of something, and when months
[3:21:54]
go by and when you have
[3:21:55]
measurements.
[3:21:59]
i would appreciate receiving a
[3:22:00]
copy of that.
[3:22:02]
And where we are with our peers.
[3:22:08]
I did this last year and I will
[3:22:10]
continue it this year, thank
[3:22:14]
you for taking a look at that
[3:22:15]
funded vacant positions, and
[3:22:17]
how necessary to keep them on
[3:22:19]
the books.
[3:22:23]
You eliminated 33 pots --
[3:22:26]
spots and that equated to 43
[3:22:26]
million.
[3:22:27]
Thank you for looking at that.
[3:22:28]
I don't know what the numbers
[3:22:32]
are, still in the 700 range of
[3:22:33]
funded vacant positions
[3:22:34]
throughout the county.
[3:22:37]
For a variety of reasons, some
[3:22:42]
are brand-new and summon --
[3:22:45]
someone leaves and retires.
[3:22:49]
But when a department head
[3:22:55]
takes a hot -- shot at this
[3:23:02]
and it's instant savings to the
[3:23:02]
country.
[3:23:11]
>> probably the fluctuating
[3:23:14]
to the department and this is
[3:23:16]
an hour by hour science that
[3:23:18]
goes on at the hospitals and
[3:23:19]
clinics.
[3:23:24]
>> siappreciate -- I
[3:23:25]
appreciate that and every bit
[3:23:27]
helpss and that's a big thing,
[3:23:28]
thank you for that.
[3:23:31]
>> thank you.
[3:23:32]
Supervisor kniss.
[3:23:35]
>> so I thought perhaps I would
[3:23:38]
get a lot less grandular, even
[3:23:44]
those are the things that made
[3:23:45]
enormous difference.
[3:23:48]
And I agree with ken asking
[3:23:49]
about the clinics and unfunded
[3:23:50]
positions.
[3:23:51]
Those are what make the
[3:23:54]
differences over the long run.
[3:23:55]
But jeff, because I talked
[3:23:57]
about this a little this
[3:23:57]
afternoon.
[3:24:00]
I thought maybe this time you
[3:24:01]
could restate this.
[3:24:05]
But I think in three years,
[3:24:07]
while we haven't solved the
[3:24:08]
problem, we have at least
[3:24:10]
identified it.
[3:24:12]
We have worked pretty
[3:24:17]
successfully I think with the
[3:24:19]
anm group that came in.
[3:24:21]
And so I want to talk a little
[3:24:25]
about what I think are some
[3:24:28]
really good strides we made.
[3:24:30]
And one might be far less
[3:24:31]
subsidy than we have done in
[3:24:32]
the past.
[3:24:34]
And another might be far more
[3:24:36]
attention to the numbers.
[3:24:38]
As I mentioned before, I get
[3:24:40]
the daily flash, I know what
[3:24:42]
the numbers are all over the
[3:24:43]
place.
[3:24:44]
Which really helps.
[3:24:47]
And you know, I think maybe you
[3:24:51]
could toot your horn for a
[3:24:52]
minute.
[3:24:53]
It wouldn't be all bad.
[3:24:55]
>> not my horn.
[3:24:58]
>> it's been a tough two years
[3:25:01]
to come in and make major
[3:25:02]
changes in the health care
[3:25:02]
system.
[3:25:06]
>> it's not my horn.
[3:25:10]
>> you can do gabrielle it is
[3:25:12]
or anyonacy, just a horn.
[3:25:14]
>> just like any other health
[3:25:18]
system in the nation, vmc was
[3:25:20]
faced with a total
[3:25:22]
transformation in a short
[3:25:23]
period of time.
[3:25:28]
Going from a system that relied
[3:25:31]
on med cal funding, that is one
[3:25:34]
way of funding a system, to a
[3:25:37]
system in the future that will
[3:25:40]
rely on performance payment.
[3:25:44]
and that's an enormous change
[3:25:45]
in infrastructure and cultural
[3:25:46]
approach.
[3:25:48]
It means a lot of changes.
[3:25:50]
And the team has done a
[3:25:52]
fabulous job in the last years.
[3:25:54]
Working towards that change.
[3:25:55]
It's very difficult
[3:25:57]
particularly at the same time
[3:26:00]
that they are preparing for
[3:26:02]
health care reform.
[3:26:09]
and dealing with lip and
[3:26:10]
medical expansion, everyone has
[3:26:13]
a lot on their plate at vmc and
[3:26:14]
health and hospital.
[3:26:18]
And it's true, that in the
[3:26:21]
past, we've removed little too
[3:26:24]
much from the administratorive
[3:26:24]
support.
[3:26:27]
people are running around from
[3:26:28]
one crisis to another at same
[3:26:33]
time they are planning a
[3:26:34]
long-term strategy.
[3:26:36]
It makes it difficult to do and
[3:26:39]
they have done an excellent job.
[3:26:41]
The clinicians and nurses and
[3:26:44]
doctors and technicians and
[3:26:47]
everyone continue to do very
[3:26:48]
high-quality work.
[3:26:49]
And they are very proud of the
[3:26:52]
work they do.
[3:26:55]
And our job and the systems job
[3:26:58]
is to get patients connected
[3:27:00]
with the clinicians.
[3:27:02]
In the riept time, in the right
[3:27:04]
place and the right level of
[3:27:06]
service and the right type of
[3:27:06]
care.
[3:27:08]
And we have proven that can be
[3:27:09]
done and we are doing a good
[3:27:12]
job of it.
[3:27:13]
That all being sides.
[3:27:15]
>> you still have a way to go.
[3:27:16]
>> we have a ways to go.
[3:27:20]
You don't change an
[3:27:23]
organization of this size in a
[3:27:26]
rapid period of time.
[3:27:29]
particularly when the risk of
[3:27:32]
rapid change is life and
[3:27:34]
welfare of patients.
[3:27:37]
You know, at any time it's
[3:27:38]
certainly the highest priority
[3:27:41]
to make sure that the patients
[3:27:44]
are safe and cared for
[3:27:45]
appropriately.
[3:27:48]
and so change is not super
[3:27:48]
rapid.
[3:27:49]
But it's happening.
[3:27:52]
And I am very proud of the team.
[3:27:58]
And they are doing a great job.
[3:28:00]
And individuals and the
[3:28:02]
employees in the health and
[3:28:04]
hospital system and the
[3:28:06]
hospital system are truly
[3:28:08]
committed to make sure they
[3:28:09]
provide the best care possible.
[3:28:11]
And they are all struggling
[3:28:12]
with change.
[3:28:13]
But they are doing a good job
[3:28:15]
of it.
[3:28:16]
>> I appreciate saying that.
[3:28:19]
Because I think going from one
[3:28:21]
system to another, as you said,
[3:28:23]
from the dish and the system
[3:28:28]
where money was really given to
[3:28:29]
us.
[3:28:31]
Without any measurable outcomes
[3:28:31]
required.
[3:28:34]
And that's a huge difference
[3:28:35]
now.
[3:28:36]
As measurable outcomes are
[3:28:37]
required.
[3:28:38]
And without them you will not
[3:28:39]
get your money.
[3:28:42]
And we will not get our money.
[3:28:44]
We will not be able to continue
[3:28:45]
to provide those services.
[3:28:48]
And the one thing you didn't
[3:28:49]
mention, jeff, the substantial
[3:28:52]
decrease in the amount of
[3:28:55]
essentially subsidy or general
[3:28:57]
fund money we are using.
[3:29:00]
It's down depending on how you
[3:29:02]
look at it.
[3:29:03]
Certainly 50% or more.
[3:29:05]
And that's making a big
[3:29:06]
difference as well.
[3:29:09]
I think it's important, you
[3:29:17]
know, we usually are saying far
[3:29:18]
more inquisittive types of
[3:29:20]
things, but it's good to hear
[3:29:22]
that we are making good
[3:29:22]
progress.
[3:29:25]
And that we are not only doing
[3:29:29]
that but paying great attention
[3:29:31]
to how that progress can be
[3:29:32]
made and reach those
[3:29:33]
measurements.
[3:29:34]
So far, so good.
[3:29:34]
Thanks.
[3:29:37]
>> thank you.
[3:29:38]
Any other supervisors?
[3:29:40]
I see none.
[3:29:44]
>> thank you, Mr. President.
[3:29:47]
>>> jeff, anything?
[3:29:47]
Okay.
[3:29:50]
Board we will recess until
[3:29:53]
tomorrow afternoon at 1:30.