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[7:52] signs which you can see in many
[7:56] locations throughout the county
[7:57] the qr code links to the county
[8:00] hosted website we had monthly
[8:03] cleanups in particular
[8:03] supervisor fernandes's office
[8:07] in south county and in
[8:08] partnership with the county we
[8:08] have installed cameras to seek
[8:11] prosecutions on illegal
[8:11] dumping.
[8:12] We are working with businesses
[8:15] and schools.
[8:16] We are working very hard right
[8:17] now to organize the second
[8:20] annual pitch in santa cruz
[8:23] county cleanup day on MAY 10th
[8:23] .
[8:24] And as you know I am asking for
[8:26] your help because in writing I
[8:27] requested that you put this
[8:30] into your newsletters and help
[8:31] amplify this message to your
[8:31] constituents.
[8:34] You have broad reach and the
[8:35] more of the community and our
[8:38] residents and visitors frankly
[8:39] to help with this effort, the
[8:41] more successful will be.
[8:42] And more importantly, I'm
[8:43] inviting each of you to
[8:45] actually articipate to
[8:46] actually show up to a clean up
[8:49] or organized one with your
[8:50] constituents and lead by
[8:50] example.
[8:53] It's a great press opportunity
[8:53] .
[8:54] It's a great photo op and it
[8:55] would show our community that
[8:57] our supervisor are critically
[9:01] concerned about this issue and
[9:02] our goal is to make santa cruz
[9:02] the cleanest county in the
[9:05] state and we appreciate your
[9:05] help.
[9:12] Thank you so much, gus.
[9:13] Hi, my name's david mckune.
[9:17] I live downtown here in
[9:20] justin's district and I believe
[9:24] that man who brought forth a I
[9:25] don't know what you ould call
[9:28] it brought forth some substance
[9:32] that would eliminate or outlaw
[9:36] a gas blowing leaf blowers.
[9:40] I feel really strongly about
[9:40] this.
[9:41] I want to explain I live in a
[9:44] to three rather large apartment
[9:47] buildings and on different days
[9:48] of the week these maintenance
[9:51] crews come through and they
[9:52] blow these things and it's so
[9:56] disruptive air polluting, noise
[9:57] polluting.
[10:00] I mean we have a I live in
[10:00] barbacoa.
[10:04] It's a senior citizen complex.
[10:05] I mean it's driving these
[10:08] people myself included
[10:08] absolutely nuts.
[10:11] These things need to go and I
[10:16] just want to say a personal
[10:16] note.
[10:17] I mean santa cruz is supposed
[10:20] to be forward thinking and you
[10:21] need to get after this one in
[10:22] particular I really hope you
[10:26] will.
[10:30] It's so obnoxious these things
[10:31] I want to tell you a quick
[10:32] personal story.
[10:34] When I was 14 I took two busses
[10:38] into downtown santa cruz to
[10:41] sweep the floors of a large
[10:42] drugstore and two years later I
[10:45] got a job sweeping the alameda
[10:49] county fairgrounds from
[10:50] midnight till 8:00 in the
[10:50] morning.
[10:53] My point is what's wrong with a
[10:54] broom?
[10:54] I mean these guys are just
[10:57] blowing this stuff up in the
[10:57] air.
[10:58] You can see the dust particles
[11:02] and in the noise is just beyond
[11:05] reasonable.
[11:06] you got to do something about
[11:08] this as I understand it, these
[11:09] things were supposed to be put
[11:12] to bed as of JANUARY 1st,
[11:13] DECEMBER 31st, whatever you
[11:16] want to call it.
[11:27] And now they prolonged this
[11:28] final decision on this until as
[11:29] I understand JUNE or JULY.
[11:29] Thank you.
[11:30] So please leave your following
[11:31] remarks.
[11:31] I'm sorry the time is up to me
[11:32] and I hope we'll do something
[11:33] about this.
[11:33] It's really driving our older
[11:39] people crazy.
[11:40] Good morning, board of
[11:43] supervisors.
[11:44] As you MAY know, my name is
[11:45] casey van nguyen, the business
[11:46] representative for the
[11:48] sheetmetal workers local one 04
[11:48] and I also am PRESIDENT And ceo
[11:51] of the monterey santa cruz
[11:52] county building and
[11:52] construction trades council.
[11:55] I'm extremely excited to
[11:56] finalize this agreement which
[11:59] we've been working on for over
[11:59] the last year.
[12:00] This is going to guaranteed
[12:03] apprenticeship opportunities
[12:04] from joint labor management
[12:04] trust.
[12:07] This is going to guarantee
[12:08] health care for these workers.
[12:08] This is going to guarantee
[12:10] retirement benefits and e are
[12:11] going to increase the local
[12:14] hire here locally.
[12:15] I'm very excited and I want to
[12:18] congratulate both monika and
[12:18] kimberly.
[12:19] You two have been working so
[12:22] hard to get into these seats
[12:23] and I was so excited to see the
[12:25] new faces on this board and
[12:26] where this board is going to go
[12:26] in this future.
[12:29] these opportunities are going
[12:30] to expand more than just what
[12:33] I've just presented to you
[12:34] current climates right now with
[12:34] immigration.
[12:37] Do you feel that someone
[12:38] without it would feel safe to
[12:41] come forward with a wage
[12:41] violation?
[12:41] No.
[12:45] So giving an opportunity for
[12:45] these workers to have
[12:48] representation which they've
[12:49] never had before is going to
[12:52] improve this community tenfold.
[12:53] I thank you for all of your
[12:57] hard work and I look forward to
[12:57] what we're going to bring to
[12:58] this county.
[13:03] Thank thank you.
[13:04] There's nothing here.
[13:07] Is there anybody online?
[13:07] Yes.
[13:12] Sheriff's because online on if
[13:12] these people are going to
[13:14] speak, can you please line up
[13:22] behind the podium?
[13:23] I oh my name is dora.
[13:24] I'm a senior citizen.
[13:26] I just wanted to comment on the
[13:26] homeless encampment sweeps that
[13:29] occurred recently in santa cruz
[13:30] on monday the twenty seventh
[13:33] the city county and chp
[13:33] officers displaced homeless
[13:37] people on coral street highway
[13:38] one the levy and the park they
[13:38] destroyed destroyed their
[13:41] survival equipment including
[13:42] any tents, tarps, sleeping
[13:45] bags, warm clothes, food and
[13:46] medicine they could not move in
[13:46] time.
[13:49] These sweeps happened in the
[13:50] middle of a stretch of nights
[13:51] that were so cold that the
[13:53] emergency shelters were open
[13:57] and full nd just before a week
[13:58] brain hey also happened to
[13:58] just three ays before the
[14:01] point in time counts which for
[14:01] anyone who doesn't know is a
[14:04] visual census of the homeless
[14:05] population in santa cruz.
[14:08] These sweep's were brutal and
[14:09] put so many people's lives at
[14:12] risk destroying their survival
[14:13] equipment during some of the
[14:14] coldest, harshest, wettest
[14:16] nights of our year in what was
[14:17] clearly an attempt to force our
[14:20] homeless population to hide
[14:21] before the point in time
[14:21] counts.
[14:22] We all know that sleeping
[14:25] encampments doesn't make people
[14:25] any less homeless.
[14:28] It just traumatizes them
[14:29] physically and mentally and
[14:29] sets any progress.
[14:32] They believe that displacing
[14:33] homeless people is obviously
[14:33] ineffective.
[14:36] A waste of ur taxpayer money
[14:40] and so cruel especially when
[14:41] they have nowhere else to go.
[14:41] Our shelters are full.
[14:44] I urge you guys to do anything
[14:45] in your power to take resources
[14:48] meant for sweeps like this and
[14:48] put them towards literally any
[14:51] kind of support for homeless
[14:51] people.
[14:52] Thank you.
[14:58] Thank you.
[15:03] I learned about hi my name is
[15:06] athena from santa cruz so I
[15:07] learned about the sweeps that
[15:08] happened on monday the twenty
[15:08] seventh from an article that
[15:10] was posted on the out.
[15:11] They said that there were seven
[15:14] arrests taken that day.
[15:15] They said that they was just
[15:16] three days before the point in
[15:18] time out.
[15:19] I am a really concerned citizen
[15:22] that it seems like santa cruz
[15:23] city as well as santa cruz
[15:26] county might be on purposely
[15:27] messing with the point in time
[15:27] count census.
[15:29] There is both sheriffs, chp and
[15:30] police there that day on the
[15:33] monday the 27th actively
[15:34] displacing people, putting
[15:38] people in jail right before a
[15:39] time count.
[15:42] I am really, really concerned
[15:43] that there is a process of
[15:43] making people hide.
[15:47] I think making eople hide is
[15:47] one of the most ehumanizing
[15:50] things that this county does to
[15:53] our homeless folk.
[15:54] I have friends that can't call
[15:55] the ambulance because they're
[15:57] afraid that the ambulance
[15:58] coming to where they are
[15:59] residing is going to out them
[16:00] and they are going to be back
[16:01] on to the streets.
[16:02] I have friends who are
[16:04] terrified.
[16:05] I have friends who are
[16:08] sleeping, sleep deprivation,
[16:09] displacement are some of the
[16:10] most cruel tortures that you
[16:12] can put humans through and we
[16:13] have a process across the
[16:16] entire county of regulatory
[16:17] torturing our homeless
[16:17] residents.
[16:20] These are community members.
[16:21] They pick up trash, they talk
[16:24] to kids, they talk to adults.
[16:25] They are playing music in the
[16:26] courtyard.
[16:28] They are sharing their
[16:29] information.
[16:29] These are active members of our
[16:32] community that our police and
[16:33] parks and rec officers are
[16:36] actively torturing.
[16:37] This is not ok and it's a waste
[16:40] of money sweeping people does
[16:41] not make people get into
[16:41] services.
[16:44] The shelters are full.
[16:45] The winter shelter is full.
[16:46] there's no reason to continue
[16:48] torturing people and spending
[16:49] so much money on a high police
[16:52] force that show up in mass and
[16:52] makes mass arrests.
[16:55] Sweeps are just purely torture
[16:56] and interrupting the point in
[16:59] time count by making people
[17:00] hide should be illegal and
[17:02] should be investigated.
[17:06] Thank you.
[17:07] Good morning.
[17:10] I'm greg benson.
[17:11] I'm homeless.
[17:14] I reside in a tree as goes
[17:15] district five just met monica
[17:16] this morning.
[17:18] Thank.
[17:22] I do realize that a certain
[17:23] level of social engineering
[17:26] does need to pressure my
[17:30] homeless community into seeking
[17:31] services to the greatest extent
[17:31] they can.
[17:34] But what's happening currently
[17:38] is absurd and level of just
[17:40] psychological mayhem that it's
[17:45] causing and the physical
[17:48] aftereffects it's it's sad and
[17:51] I think we I think santa cruz
[17:55] county has a better way a
[18:02] moderate medium path that that
[18:03] does encourage people to seek
[18:07] services but doesn't crush them
[18:07] to the point where they can't
[18:10] even make a decision about
[18:14] things and happy although I do
[18:15] appreciate the women's shelter
[18:15] when it's open and when it's
[18:18] not soldier capacity like the
[18:22] two nights ago and then in a in
[18:26] a parked two blocks away and
[18:26] get woken up at 3:00 in the
[18:29] morning lightly by santa
[18:29] observatory.
[18:30] They've always been very polite
[18:34] to me when they were still
[18:34] three in the morning and it's
[18:38] freezing out and where do we
[18:38] go.
[18:40] they have no answer.
[18:45] No answer so we just stay there
[18:46] and then we get rousted again
[18:48] at 7:00 in the morning like
[18:52] they wait a bit.
[18:53] Where do we go?
[18:59] I mean they're is no peace if
[19:00] that you're thinking caps and
[19:04] I'll continue bringing friends
[19:04] and we'll be at city council
[19:08] this afternoon speaking to
[19:08] thank you.
[19:18] Thank you.
[19:19] Good morning and thank you for
[19:23] this forum.
[19:24] In the wake of the mars
[19:26] landing, this job facility fire
[19:27] I'm here to urge you to enact
[19:30] an emergency moratorium on
[19:31] lithium battery using best
[19:31] facilities in santa cruz
[19:32] county.
[19:34] Weld county staff works with
[19:35] new leaf energy and independent
[19:38] industry experts to identify
[19:38] where we want best facilities
[19:42] developed and safety regulation
[19:43] that actually protect the
[19:43] safety and health of our
[19:44] community, our agricultural
[19:47] infrastructure which is very
[19:47] precious and our natural
[19:49] environment.
[19:50] I also urge you to establish an
[19:51] advisory committee of
[19:53] independent professional
[19:54] industry experts to advise the
[19:55] county board on appropriate
[19:58] siting and regulation that
[19:59] could and should be more
[20:00] restrictive than current
[20:03] regulation the movement that
[20:03] questions the wisdom of
[20:06] investing long term in lithium
[20:07] battery using best facilities
[20:10] is growing orange county just
[20:10] passed an emergency moratorium
[20:13] on test facility development in
[20:14] unincorporated county land
[20:14] pending a thorough
[20:17] investigation of appropriate
[20:18] siting and regulations in
[20:18] NOVEMBER.
[20:21] In JANUARY of twenty twenty
[20:22] three, leaf energy pulled its
[20:25] plans to build the best
[20:26] facility next to a church and
[20:27] immediately adjacent to six
[20:29] schools in a dense residential
[20:29] area of staten island in
[20:32] NOVEMBER of twenty twenty for
[20:33] another best developer withdrew
[20:34] its plans for a grid scale
[20:37] facility in the town of
[20:37] catskill in new york state new
[20:41] leaf energy's proposed seahawk
[20:41] facilities within several
[20:42] hundred feet of dense
[20:43] residential neighborhoods
[20:44] surrounded by multiple nearby
[20:45] schools pinto park precious
[20:49] agricultural land a protected
[20:49] riparian zone two lakes one of
[20:52] which is part of a clean water
[20:52] reclamation project that
[20:53] irrigates parker valley
[20:56] farmland a proposed new
[20:56] residential development and a
[20:59] proposed new regional park and
[21:00] active fault line runs through
[21:00] the property.
[21:01] The facility sited on it is
[21:04] surrounded by acres of fuel in
[21:07] the event of a wildfire I.
[21:08] I agree that energy storage is
[21:11] a critically needed resource to
[21:11] achieve a carbonated electric
[21:15] grid and I agree with the
[21:15] concept behind it but it must
[21:17] not be done at the cost of our
[21:19] safety and our precious
[21:19] environment and agricultural
[21:20] land.
[21:23] I urge you again to please put
[21:24] an emergency moratorium in
[21:25] place to give us all time to
[21:26] think through this process.
[21:34] Please.
[21:34] Good orning.
[21:37] Welcome here.
[21:38] i just want to thank everybody
[21:41] for speaking I I concur with
[21:45] the garbage.
[21:46] Recycle is a big thing if you
[21:50] look you can make kind of make
[21:50] it to the door without just
[21:51] seeing a non-recyclable
[21:54] situation and so I think it
[21:56] matters.
[21:57] I agree with the power tools
[22:01] and the blowers and stuff.
[22:04] I'm that's why I like to sweep
[22:05] it does take a little extra
[22:08] time but it is worth it and I I
[22:09] agree with the homeless thing.
[22:12] I've been there I am homeless.
[22:13] I understand how it feels to
[22:16] lose everything in one quick
[22:20] decision by an officer that
[22:23] maybe didn't think it through.
[22:26] So also I just was going to
[22:27] review some of the things here
[22:28] today that you guys are going
[22:31] to be speaking on and thank you
[22:32] for again for your community
[22:35] service.
[22:35] But it says consent agenda
[22:39] number 12 staff request to be
[22:39] deleted.
[22:40] I was just helping you make
[22:43] sure that you if that is the
[22:44] case if you can please just
[22:47] make a comment on it and give
[22:48] reason or whatever it is.
[22:53] Thank you.
[22:54] Good morning.
[22:55] My name is gregory ardino.
[22:58] I live on district two.
[22:59] I've been in this county for
[23:02] thirty eight years and in this
[23:04] district for twenty over twenty
[23:05] I need to voice my concern
[23:09] about the best facility going
[23:10] 90 meter road the planning of
[23:13] it newly energy is telling you
[23:14] that the battery system they
[23:17] intend to use is safe, that it
[23:18] is lithium ion phosphate not
[23:20] lithium ion.
[23:24] this type of battery can also
[23:25] experienced a thermal runaway
[23:25] incident.
[23:27] It is not one hundred percent
[23:28] fallible.
[23:32] It will burn at a higher
[23:35] temperature which means what it
[23:36] will tell you many good things
[23:39] about the next gen technology.
[23:40] They themselves have said that
[23:44] their best should be in an
[23:44] industrial commercial zone
[23:47] location minto road is neither
[23:47] of these orange county just
[23:52] passed a moratorium on any
[23:52] besse in their county.
[23:55] There is other battery tech
[23:56] that is not that does not burn.
[24:00] It will be available in three
[24:00] to four years.
[24:03] Dang is timing for that close
[24:04] to having better technology.
[24:05] That's what's happening with
[24:10] this electronics new leaf will
[24:11] sell you on how safe it is and
[24:14] work with you until they can't
[24:16] then they will go around you
[24:17] directly to the state where
[24:18] they have permission for these
[24:21] best facility.
[24:22] Then what assembly bill three
[24:25] or three gives control the
[24:26] power back to you to decide on
[24:29] these facilities we all need to
[24:30] call our state assembly member
[24:33] and support in support of ab
[24:36] three 03.
[24:37] We need to have control of this
[24:40] here in our county not at the
[24:41] state level in sacramento.
[24:44] I not in electronics or
[24:45] electrical electrical ngineer.
[24:48] I have spoken to a couple of
[24:48] them.
[24:49] They are all saying that these
[24:52] lithium ion batteries are nasty
[24:55] when they burn they are so
[24:56] please educate yourselves.
[25:02] Thank you.
[25:05] Good morning baude.
[25:06] hello my name is crystal
[25:07] gonzalez and I'm the sumi does
[25:10] director adventure's I want to
[25:11] take this opportunity to
[25:14] introduce myself to the new
[25:14] board of supervisors and to
[25:15] thank all of you for your
[25:18] ongoing support and approval of
[25:21] the semitones grant tricorp as
[25:22] some of you MAY know, semih
[25:25] does open a college savings
[25:26] account for every newborn in
[25:26] santacruz county.
[25:29] This effort has changed the way
[25:30] we welcome each baby into our
[25:31] county, planting the seeds of
[25:34] opportunity from the very
[25:35] beginning to date we have
[25:38] opened over eleven thousand
[25:38] babies at eleven thousand
[25:42] accounts for babies across the
[25:42] county with approximately 50
[25:45] percent from south county and
[25:45] thirty percent from santa cruz
[25:48] and the remainder from the rest
[25:49] the jurisdictions.
[25:50] Through our annual surveys we
[25:52] have seen a meaningful impact
[25:53] on families aspirations and
[25:56] expectations for their
[25:57] children's futures not only
[26:01] about 36 percent as they meet
[26:02] those families now expect their
[26:02] children to complete alesi
[26:05] master's degree and increase
[26:05] compared to previous years.
[26:08] Somy does is a true
[26:09] collaborative community
[26:10] investment made possible
[26:11] through strong partnerships
[26:12] with organizations like the
[26:13] county health service agencies,
[26:15] human services department,
[26:16] santa cruz county office of
[26:20] education first five united way
[26:21] the indissoluble entry central
[26:24] california alliance for health
[26:25] and many more many.
[26:27] This is a place of community
[26:28] unity, relationships and hope
[26:29] for what we can build on
[26:32] sensate sustainable together a
[26:33] promise for a more united and
[26:36] prosperous future for all like
[26:37] success of so many does depends
[26:39] on a strong partnership and our
[26:40] shared responsibility to
[26:41] protect the families we serve
[26:44] for the more there is a deep
[26:45] commitment of our partners and
[26:48] ventures to maintaining trust
[26:48] with our community particularly
[26:49] when it comes to safeguarding
[26:52] family data.
[26:52] I look forward to working more
[26:53] closely with all of you and
[26:55] will be reaching out soon to
[26:56] share more about the impact of
[26:58] our work and thank you for your
[27:01] time and support.
[27:06] Tank you.
[27:09] Good morning board.
[27:10] My name is becky steinbrunner.
[27:14] I live in the aptos hills.
[27:16] I was disappointed a bit
[27:17] surprised to see there's
[27:21] nothing on the agenda today to
[27:25] formally discuss any of the
[27:25] proposals that supervisor
[27:28] konate put forth to you at your
[27:28] last meeting regarding the
[27:32] county proposed battery energy
[27:36] storage system vss ordinance
[27:40] that is in the works.
[27:41] I would like to ask that this
[27:44] issue be on every single one of
[27:47] your agendas so that you can
[27:48] openly discuss it and the
[27:51] public can come to you.
[27:55] I spent last week researching
[27:59] this proposal that is now in
[28:00] permit process for the nineteen
[28:03] montoro vss and our new leaf
[28:07] submitted by swift consulting.
[28:10] I was amazed to see they had
[28:11] the wrong fire department
[28:14] listed on their application.
[28:15] Maybe that's why our valley
[28:18] fire district didn't know about
[28:19] the hearing the public meeting
[28:23] that nearly held before filing
[28:26] the application last DECEMBER.
[28:27] Maybe that's why they didn't
[28:30] know because they weren't
[28:31] listed as the proper fire
[28:34] department.
[28:34] That postcard went out to
[28:37] probably very few people.
[28:38] Postcard didn't have a time on
[28:41] it when that public meeting
[28:42] happened.
[28:43] It was improper noticing and it
[28:46] must be stopped.
[28:46] It must be done again and
[28:50] properly notice I was surprised
[28:51] to see that there's so little
[28:53] spacing between the battery
[28:54] storage units proposed by this
[28:58] developer.
[28:59] I was surprised to see that
[29:02] chibbaro knows the very dense
[29:05] affordable housing was not
[29:06] listed as a sensitive eceptor.
[29:09] It is ery nearby.
[29:10] There are a lot of people very
[29:11] nearby that were not listed as
[29:13] sensitive symptoms.
[29:14] Please put this on your next
[29:14] board meeting.
[29:15] Thank you.
[29:17] Thank you.
[29:21] See there is none here no other
[29:22] other comment here on the on
[29:22] the chambers.
[29:25] Anybody nline?
[29:25] Yes, sure.
[29:28] We have speakers on line gene
[29:29] and michael, your microphone is
[29:30] now available.
[29:30] Good morning.
[29:36] This is gene brockbank I this
[29:36] is the first board meeting that
[29:41] I was not able to access on my
[29:41] own computer the interactive
[29:45] online agenda so that I could
[29:48] study every single topic which
[29:49] I have done every board meeting
[29:52] for years.
[29:54] I could not do this because you
[29:55] now have a new interactive
[30:00] online system that my macintosh
[30:01] laptop computer which at which
[30:05] it's operating system cannot be
[30:09] updated I I cannot no longer
[30:09] access the board meetings.
[30:13] I am able to access the any
[30:17] board meeting agenda items and
[30:21] staff reports up until twenty
[30:24] twenty four from now on I
[30:25] cannot I'm wondering how many
[30:29] other people in the county of
[30:30] santa cruz who have older
[30:40] computers that are functioning
[30:41] perfectly well for everything
[30:42] else but can no longer access
[30:43] board meeting materials or I
[30:44] used to submit comments to you
[30:49] this new system is very user
[30:49] unfriendly.
[30:52] It has and you know me well
[30:53] enough to know that I am
[30:56] capable on a computer to
[30:57] interact with you as a board
[31:01] but I can no longer do that.
[31:02] I understand that the system
[31:04] was changed recently.
[31:08] I'm asking the board to do
[31:09] whatever they can to have that
[31:13] particular system retrofitted
[31:16] somehow or other to allow
[31:20] everyone to be able to use
[31:24] otherwise ou're you've made it
[31:28] more difficult for the public
[31:29] to interact with you online.
[31:35] Thank you for listening
[31:36] following user one your
[31:43] microphone is now available of
[31:44] hi can you hear me?
[31:44] Yes we can.
[31:48] Good morning board as you are.
[31:51] My name is diane nicole.
[31:52] As you are aware scientists
[31:52] have found levels of toxic
[31:55] heavy metals that elkhorn flu
[31:59] are one 100 to 1000 times
[31:59] higher than prior.
[32:03] The moss landing fire monterey
[32:03] county is testing its soils
[32:07] with the help of the california
[32:07] department of toxic bstances
[32:08] and cal epa.
[32:10] I requesting the board for our
[32:14] county santa cruz county
[32:15] similarly to do a directive a
[32:18] resolution to have our county
[32:18] reach out further and
[32:19] persistently.
[32:22] The california department of
[32:23] toxic substances and cal epa to
[32:26] help our county with testing
[32:30] our soils in this county that
[32:31] begins about a mile or two from
[32:34] osland.
[32:35] There is no good reason for
[32:38] santa cruz to not do at
[32:38] monterey county is doing and
[32:42] availing itself of taking
[32:42] advantage of the services that
[32:45] this state offers without
[32:46] charge as reported in the last
[32:50] meeting by montrezl officials,
[32:51] the toxic plume blew north and
[32:53] northeast during part of the
[32:57] fire.
[32:58] These chemicals are extremely
[33:01] toxic and even after the fire
[33:05] stops reading epa fact sheet,
[33:06] lithium ion batteries can
[33:09] spontaneously ignite explode in
[33:12] the toxic gases of particulate
[33:13] even after the fire is out.
[33:16] Thank you very much.
[33:19] I hope that you will even if
[33:20] you'll just reach out to our
[33:24] county health department and
[33:24] encourage them to be persistent
[33:28] with the cal epa epartment of
[33:31] toxic substances so we can use
[33:31] these services.
[33:39] Thank you.
[33:40] And your microphone is now
[33:40] available.
[33:43] Thank you so much, tim delaney
[33:44] here.
[33:47] So anyways I got a litany of
[33:50] things to complain about so
[33:51] first of all the emergency
[33:54] battery moratorium otally
[33:55] agree with the other folks that
[33:58] just talked about that.
[33:59] so these energy companies and
[34:01] everybody and politicians
[34:02] everyone's confused about this.
[34:03] No one has their act together.
[34:06] A good example is alpine
[34:10] meadows a couple of days back.
[34:11] So my powder day was ruined
[34:14] again because of the energy
[34:15] company at the polls came down
[34:18] and everything.
[34:19] Now just think about this here.
[34:20] I've been skiing for five
[34:22] decades and I go around town
[34:26] here nd all of force and I see
[34:27] all these old rotten power
[34:30] poles that are older than me.
[34:33] So that's got your energy
[34:34] companies.
[34:37] They're a bunch of crooks all
[34:38] over the whole state and think
[34:38] about trump here releasing the
[34:42] water, everything and then the
[34:42] farmers and all that sort of
[34:45] stuff up up northern california
[34:46] Well, when it gets dry, guess
[34:49] what's going to happen up in
[34:50] tahoe in northern california a
[34:53] bunch of fires.
[34:53] All right.
[34:54] So yes, the emergency battery
[34:57] moratorium is imperative.
[35:01] Ok, also a presidency built on
[35:01] attacking the vulnerable that
[35:05] is that is remarkably weak.
[35:06] Today's republican s so eager
[35:09] to be sweet.
[35:10] Talked by evil, hitler attacked
[35:13] the vulnerable.
[35:14] Eisenhower turns in his grave
[35:17] as today's republicans embrace
[35:18] the legacy of stalin and hitler
[35:21] to pieces of the same rotten
[35:21] GOD.
[35:22] All right.
[35:25] Americans despise dictatorship
[35:26] We are against king george as
[35:29] george is of the world noticed
[35:29] the frail ego american leaders
[35:33] do not demand apologies and
[35:34] love criticism to be an
[35:37] effective leader you encourage
[35:37] criticism.
[35:38] All right.
[35:42] So that's how I feel about
[35:42] trump.
[35:44] I'm really concerned here and
[35:45] no, I don't like folks messing
[35:48] with my social security
[35:48] numbers.
[35:49] All right.
[35:50] And drawing the dots to all the
[35:52] combat veterans going out to
[35:53] world war one anyways.
[35:56] You folks have a great day.
[36:03] Thank you so much, paul.
[36:04] And use your to your
[36:11] microphones now available
[36:11] marilyn gerould.
[36:16] Yes, we need to act an
[36:19] emergency moratorium on these
[36:23] lithium batteries storage
[36:23] facilities.
[36:27] This is a technology from
[36:32] beginning to and from children
[36:35] in congo and elsewhere mining
[36:39] for lithium in toxic conditions
[36:43] and a website where you can see
[36:47] and learn the extensive
[36:51] consequences of these batteries
[36:55] is of fog horn express dot com
[37:03] and that was a whole issue
[37:04] somewhere around JANUARY 20 I
[37:08] thought week a whole episode on
[37:11] these lithium out or is if
[37:15] something is hazardous in all
[37:19] its aspects and these chemical
[37:20] that have poisoned salad bowl
[37:27] of us are nanoparticles.
[37:28] You can't remove them.
[37:31] You have to prevent in the
[37:31] first place.
[37:34] That's the only way regulating
[37:39] it so that they can continue
[37:42] with their poisoning and other
[37:43] struction is not going to
[37:46] protect the public.
[37:47] I want to invite people to a
[37:50] meeting tonight nelson center
[37:55] never again islanding get an
[37:59] update from one of the
[38:02] organizers, brian roder of
[38:03] never again miles landing dog
[38:07] that six o'clock london elson's
[38:10] center tonight.
[38:14] We need to prohibit this and
[38:15] any of this should be taken out
[38:18] of the planning department
[38:22] right now about the mental
[38:22] proposal.
[38:26] Thank you.
[38:30] We have no further speakers on
[38:33] line to thank you, MADAM Chair
[38:34] that will bring it back to the
[38:35] board, see if there's any
[38:35] questions comments on the
[38:38] consent agenda or begin to my
[38:41] left with supervisor konik.
[38:42] Thank you.
[38:42] Chair on item thirty for
[38:44] approving the revised project
[38:44] labor agreement.
[38:45] I just want to thank staff for
[38:46] all their hard work on this.
[38:49] It was a good long years worth
[38:49] of work, particularly our
[38:52] director of general services
[38:53] michael beaton and assistant
[38:56] ceo alyssa benson who I know
[38:57] worked hard on this.
[38:58] I want to thank the partnership
[39:00] with the building trades, MS.
[39:00] Vanden heuvel and of course
[39:01] your work has just begun.
[39:03] We look forward to the hiring
[39:04] of all those apprentices as
[39:08] just as I was building out the
[39:08] local workforce.
[39:09] Thank you.
[39:12] On item thirty eight the report
[39:12] on the healing the streets
[39:15] program and the crisis grant
[39:16] pilot program.
[39:18] I want to think hsa leadership
[39:19] for all their work standing up
[39:22] the wenty seven crisis
[39:23] response really great to
[39:26] finally have that service
[39:27] available in our community.
[39:30] it's also really great to see
[39:31] the success of the healing the
[39:32] outreach program including the
[39:34] forty six percent decrease the
[39:35] psychological distress and just
[39:38] hoping that state provides a
[39:39] consistent source of funding to
[39:42] fulfill this mandate and we can
[39:43] see denigration of our ability
[39:44] to get reimbursed through
[39:46] medicaid now going forward.
[39:47] But thank you for creating a
[39:49] legal framework to provide
[39:50] these services and then finally
[39:54] on I'm 42 proving the agreement
[39:54] for a polo grounds scoreboard.
[39:55] I want to thank the arks
[39:57] department for thinking
[39:58] creatively to come up with this
[40:02] solution nd the agreement with
[40:02] mid county pony baseball league
[40:05] and aptos sports foundation.
[40:06] And so this great electronic
[40:07] scoreboard can be installed for
[40:09] our community.
[40:10] Thank you.
[40:13] Supervisor virginia's thank
[40:13] you.
[40:14] Good morning.
[40:17] I just want to start as a
[40:17] general comment for those of
[40:20] you who took the time to speak
[40:21] to us during public comment, I
[40:22] want to thank you for sharing
[40:25] and let you know that we are
[40:25] listening.
[40:26] It's not a time for us to
[40:29] engage back and forth but we
[40:29] are here and we are listening.
[40:30] So just thank you for your
[40:32] comments as far as the consent
[40:35] agenda goes, I want to o to
[40:36] begin with number twenty seven
[40:37] larry pegler is my art to see
[40:40] alternative or alternate.
[40:40] You MAY remember that he was a
[40:43] candidate for the metro board
[40:44] during my first meeting as a
[40:47] supervisor and although he went
[40:48] with a different nominee, we
[40:48] all recognized his
[40:51] contributions and his expertize
[40:52] I'm really proud to have him
[40:53] come on as my rtc alternate so
[40:56] we can continue to contribute
[40:56] to the community as it relates
[40:59] to transportation on item
[41:00] number thirty for our project
[41:03] labor agreements.
[41:04] I also want to thank our labor
[41:08] partners and those in the ceo's
[41:08] office and cci for bringing
[41:11] this forward.
[41:12] You know plays are really
[41:15] intended to support a local
[41:15] workforce.
[41:19] It keeps our local dollars here
[41:20] in this local economy and
[41:20] supports the development
[41:22] training of our workforce.
[41:23] And so I want to thank
[41:24] everybody for their effort to
[41:27] bring this forward and I look
[41:27] forward to hearing about the
[41:28] progress of how these pilot
[41:30] projects go.
[41:31] Item number thirty six our
[41:34] water resources report.
[41:35] I want o thank the water
[41:38] resources division within the
[41:39] health services agency for this
[41:42] really informative report.
[41:43] It's helpful to have such a
[41:47] detailed overview of all of our
[41:47] very valuable and vulnerable
[41:51] water sources locally and as we
[41:54] continue to think about our
[41:55] efforts to project to protect
[41:58] our fragile natural environment
[41:59] from climate change and prepare
[42:02] for the impact of climate
[42:03] change and the impact it will
[42:04] have on the health of our
[42:07] environment and the ealth of
[42:07] our ublic, this information is
[42:10] going to be really helpful.
[42:11] So thank you for preparing that
[42:13] for us.
[42:14] And finally on the report of
[42:17] the various behavioral health
[42:18] grants, you know, I know from
[42:19] my personal professional
[42:22] experience how valuable these
[42:22] dollars are.
[42:25] These are grants so above and
[42:29] beyond the regular course of
[42:30] funding that comes into our
[42:31] community for behavioral health
[42:31] dollars.
[42:34] It takes a lot of work to seek
[42:37] these grants and to meet the
[42:38] outcomes.
[42:39] But as it relates to the crisis
[42:42] program, suicide prevention
[42:42] task force healing the streets
[42:46] we've been able to do this
[42:47] really valuable work because of
[42:47] the hard work of our team.
[42:50] So thank you to the behavioral
[42:50] health division and health
[42:54] services agency for all of us,
[42:54] really good work.
[42:55] Thank you.
[43:00] Cummings you very much.
[43:04] I remember thirty four this has
[43:04] been a long time coming the
[43:07] project labor agreement between
[43:10] the building trades and the
[43:11] county and I just want to thank
[43:12] everyone for all their hard
[43:13] work and patience as we tried
[43:15] to get to something that that
[43:18] is mutually agreeable and also
[43:19] gives us an opportunity to show
[43:20] how these project labor
[43:22] agreements work.
[43:23] And so I'm I'm hopeful that
[43:26] this is going to be a really
[43:27] fantastic program for our
[43:30] community to help as we see an
[43:31] aging workforce that's oing to
[43:31] be retiring out and getting
[43:33] more people into the trades
[43:34] which is a very viable career
[43:34] path.
[43:37] And so I just want to thank
[43:38] everybody for their hard work
[43:39] on this and I look forward to
[43:40] seeing how this develops over
[43:42] time and I hope that some of
[43:43] the neighboring jurisdictions
[43:45] will consider conducting
[43:46] something that similar to what
[43:47] we're doing as well.
[43:50] I don't have a 38.
[43:51] I just want to congratulate our
[43:51] staff for standing up here on
[43:54] the streets program and for the
[43:54] 24/7 crisis response.
[43:56] This is something that back in
[43:57] 2020 everybody was really
[43:57] saying we need more social
[44:01] workers engaging people
[44:02] engaging with people who are
[44:03] having mental health crisis.
[44:05] These are not long horsemen and
[44:06] it just goes to show, you know,
[44:10] 3001 92 direct services
[44:13] provided to 346 unduplicated
[44:14] participants.
[44:14] I'm just really goes to show
[44:17] that this is this is doing a
[44:17] lot for a lot of people who are
[44:18] struggling in our community.
[44:20] And so I look forward of
[44:21] continuing to support these
[44:24] programs and seeing how they
[44:25] can, you know, provide help for
[44:26] people in our community and
[44:28] then item number forty nine
[44:31] this is davenport water tank
[44:32] and I just want to thank the
[44:33] staff for their hard work on
[44:35] this.
[44:36] This is an example of a project
[44:39] that came in below that
[44:40] estimated cost and so I just
[44:42] want to continue to see us
[44:43] bring these types of projects
[44:44] forward and also just you know,
[44:47] this critical water source for
[44:48] the residents of davenport
[44:51] 700000 gallons I believe that
[44:52] we use as backup storage for
[44:55] the towns ater supply.
[44:55] So really grateful that we have
[44:59] this going on for the residents
[44:59] of davenport.
[45:00] That concludes my comments.
[45:02] oh, and I will just say to the
[45:03] folks who came and spoke to us
[45:03] today about homelessness and
[45:05] the homeless sweep's.
[45:06] I understand and please correct
[45:07] me if I'm wrong, but the county
[45:10] is doesn't engage in those in
[45:13] terms of law enforcement.
[45:14] But we do understand the way
[45:15] the city has been approaching
[45:17] as I said on a committee with
[45:18] the city of santa cruz where we
[45:19] discuss homelessness issues and
[45:21] I will be bringing that forward
[45:22] to our discussion that we will
[45:22] be having this wednesday.
[45:25] So thank you very much for
[45:26] bringing that o our attention
[45:27] and I'll bring your concerns to
[45:28] santa cruz as well.
[45:31] Thank you.
[45:32] Thank you so much.
[45:36] Supervisor thank you chair and
[45:40] welcome everybody today.
[45:44] We've been very busy, monica
[45:45] and I orienting with the
[45:47] various departments across the
[45:48] county and I think all of the
[45:53] staff for the wonderful
[45:53] orientations that we've had to
[45:57] date very impressed with the
[45:57] level and commitment of the
[46:01] staff here at santa cruz county
[46:04] and regarding the consent
[46:05] agenda, I'd like to call out
[46:09] number 25, the appointment of
[46:12] jerry suza to the emergency
[46:13] medical commission.
[46:14] Jerry was the executive
[46:16] director of the dignity medical
[46:16] foundation.
[46:20] He ran the cath lab at dignity
[46:20] health.
[46:21] He's in R.N. He's a paramedic.
[46:24] He's been a paramedic leader
[46:27] and he's currently standing up
[46:28] the cath lab the heart
[46:31] catherine catherine utilization
[46:32] lab at watsonville hospital so
[46:33] that they can start doing
[46:35] procedures there.
[46:36] I think he'll be a wonderful
[46:39] addition and I thank him for
[46:39] his interest.
[46:40] Number 26, jonathan sherborn
[46:44] zinnanti an appointment to the
[46:44] disability commission.
[46:47] Jonathan is a dear friend of
[46:48] mine and somebody I worked with
[46:51] in a professional way for many
[46:51] years.
[46:54] He is a quadriplegic, uses a
[46:56] power chair and is a part a
[46:59] wonderful person just graduated
[47:03] from ucsc and will be a
[47:03] wonderful addition to the
[47:04] disability commission.
[47:06] So thank you jonathan for your
[47:07] interest number thirty four I'm
[47:10] going to echo what many of my
[47:11] colleagues have said thank you
[47:11] to the building trades for the
[47:14] play work that has happened
[47:14] this year.
[47:15] Monica and I on the campaign
[47:18] trail met with the building
[47:19] trades multiple times, sat down
[47:21] with them, made presentations
[47:22] to them and I'm really excited
[47:23] to see the work that we're
[47:26] going to do together through
[47:26] this agreement.
[47:30] I also want to let everybody
[47:30] here know that I've worked for
[47:34] many years trying to build a
[47:35] workforce development with an
[47:38] paravel unified so we have a
[47:38] lot of kids ready to start
[47:41] working as apprentices.
[47:42] So we're hoping that you guys
[47:45] can pick p many of the
[47:46] students that we've trained
[47:47] over the years.
[47:50] Number 42 echoing what motto
[47:53] had said about the scoreboard.
[47:54] Thank you for pointing that out
[47:58] and that's something and I've
[47:58] worked with john milanovich on
[47:59] that scoreboard up at ptos
[48:02] high was donated to them.
[48:03] they're getting a new one and
[48:05] this beautiful perfectly
[48:06] working scoreboard will now be
[48:10] an addition at the polo field
[48:11] so that the pony league can
[48:13] have a beautiful scoreboard.
[48:14] They're all free of charge.
[48:17] So thank you very, very much.
[48:17] Our parks are making that
[48:18] happen and thanks to the aptos
[48:21] sports foundation and all of
[48:22] the actual the contractors who
[48:24] are donating their time
[48:25] electricians, carpenters, et
[48:28] cetera to make this a reality
[48:29] and I'm glad we can get this
[48:29] done before the season starts.
[48:32] So I think that'll conclude my
[48:32] comments.
[48:40] Thank you so I'd like to you
[48:41] know, once again reiterate that
[48:44] we have is a big santacruz
[48:45] county cleanup day and I want
[48:47] to urge all my colleagues to be
[48:50] part of it organize one
[48:52] happening on MAY 10th with item
[48:55] 34, the project labor
[48:55] agreement.
[48:58] I'd like to think of course our
[48:59] county seems to have worked
[49:02] hard and diligently on this and
[49:06] of course the labor of course
[49:07] is one of the things I'm really
[49:09] excited about is the
[49:10] opportunities for young people
[49:13] to get in this field.
[49:14] It normally wouldn't go to
[49:17] universities or colleges but to
[49:17] get into this field the pay's
[49:21] just as much if not more than
[49:21] if they did go to college.
[49:22] So thank you for that
[49:25] opportunity and item 24, I want
[49:28] to thank charlie david walker
[49:29] women for in-home support
[49:33] services and that concludes my
[49:40] comments with that I'd like to
[49:41] bring it back to the board to
[49:44] entertain the motion.
[49:48] I'm a content econd got a
[49:49] motion from supervisor cummings
[49:51] and the second from supervisor
[49:51] koeneke.
[49:52] Can we take wukong certainly
[50:02] supervisor to support I
[50:04] cummings martinez I connect
[50:04] hernandez I motion passes
[50:07] unanimously I will move on to
[50:07] the regular agenda item number
[50:11] seven the next agenda item to
[50:12] consider adopting a resolution
[50:14] for the issuance of tax
[50:18] allocating refunding bonds 2025
[50:19] series a and an amount of to
[50:22] exceed ninety five million.
[50:25] I'll turn it over to kim namba
[50:26] ,senior department
[50:27] administrative analyst and
[50:30] susan para managing director of
[50:31] herel and company advisors for
[50:55] the presentation and start
[50:59] answering.
[51:00] Good morning chair members of
[51:01] the board.
[51:01] I'm suzanne here.
[51:02] All the county's financial
[51:03] advisor.
[51:04] Im here to present some
[51:07] information on a refinancing
[51:07] opportunity for the
[51:11] redevelopments accessor agency
[51:14] tax allocation bonds currently
[51:18] the redevelopment success
[51:22] agency has five series of
[51:23] outstanding bonds.
[51:27] They're secured by the former
[51:31] tax increment maicon.
[51:32] Ok, sorry I'll talk a little
[51:34] bit louder.
[51:35] The bonds are secured by the
[51:36] former tax increment of the
[51:39] redevelopment agency and you
[51:42] can see on the screen of the
[51:45] maturities range from twenty
[51:49] thirty to twenty thirty six the
[51:50] bonds that are eligible for
[51:53] refinancing at this moment are
[51:54] two series of bonds issued in
[51:57] twenty fifteen series a and b
[51:58] and a twenty sixteen series
[52:02] only the twenty fifteen series
[52:05] and the twenty sixteen bonds
[52:05] have sufficient savings to make
[52:06] refinancing economical at this
[52:14] time this slide summarizes the
[52:14] existing interest rates on the
[52:18] outstanding bonds estimated
[52:18] interest rates on the
[52:21] refinancing how much nnual
[52:22] savings we anticipate as well
[52:26] as the total annual saving.
[52:27] S you can see that the average
[52:29] reduction in debt service is
[52:30] expected to be seven point five
[52:32] percent or a total of almost
[52:33] eight point eight dollars
[52:36] million because this will
[52:37] reduce the amount of tax
[52:40] increment or are what we call
[52:41] our etf redevelopment property
[52:44] tax trust fund funding required
[52:45] to pay debt service on the
[52:47] redevelopment successor agency
[52:48] bonds.
[52:51] Those savings get distributed
[52:52] among the different taxing
[52:56] entities in accordance with a
[52:56] formula the county gets
[52:59] thirteen point two percent.
[53:00] County districts will get three
[53:03] point five six percent.
[53:04] That's like the library
[53:06] district and then the schools
[53:07] and colleges and other special
[53:08] districts will get the
[53:11] remainder.
[53:11] So we're anticipating those
[53:15] will benefit by about seven
[53:16] point three dollars million.
[53:17] The county will benefit by
[53:22] about one point five million.
[53:23] The process of dissolution of
[53:25] redevelopment requires the
[53:26] successor agency to first
[53:29] approve the refinancing and
[53:30] then it will go to the
[53:31] consolidated oversight board to
[53:33] approve the refinancing.
[53:35] Then it is presented to the
[53:35] department of finance and they
[53:37] have sixty days to review the
[53:41] documentation and provide their
[53:42] authorization to proceed so we
[53:44] don't anticipate the bonds will
[53:45] be issued until JUNE.
[53:49] The funding will be available
[53:49] for a SEPTEMBER one twenty five
[53:50] twenty twenty five redemption
[53:53] of the outstanding bonds.
[53:57] So the recommended action is to
[53:57] approve the resolution which
[54:00] approves a form of an indenture
[54:01] of trust for the bonds to
[54:05] escrow agreements, an official
[54:06] notice of sale, the preliminary
[54:07] official statement and the
[54:09] continuing disclosure
[54:09] certificate.
[54:10] The bonds are expected to be
[54:13] sold at competitive sale.
[54:17] It also authorizes a not to
[54:18] exceed ninety five million
[54:21] which is the amount we expect
[54:22] to be required to pay off the
[54:24] old bonds and the savings in
[54:25] accordance with the county's
[54:28] debt policy must be greater
[54:29] than four percent and that
[54:33] concludes my report if you have
[54:34] any questions.
[54:34] Thank you for the presentation
[54:36] on to my fellow board members
[54:37] that if anyone would like to
[54:40] have ny questions comments
[54:41] I'll start to my right with
[54:46] supervisor now this is great.
[54:47] I'll be supporting today
[54:50] anything that we can do to save
[54:51] the taxpayer and the state and
[54:54] us money is something that I'm
[54:55] in favor of so thank you for
[54:57] bringing aboard swearwords.
[55:02] Cummings so as a machinist I
[55:02] have no questions.
[55:03] I just appreciate the
[55:05] recommendation.
[55:06] Thank you so was good.
[55:09] Yeah likewise thanks for your
[55:10] work on this and obviously
[55:11] anything going save the county
[55:11] money is a great idea in my
[55:13] book.
[55:14] Oh now turn to the public see
[55:15] if there's that we should speak
[55:16] on this item.
[55:24] Anyone from the public in thank
[55:28] you becky steinberger I.
[55:28] I also support saving the
[55:31] county money but for the
[55:31] benefit of the public nd you
[55:35] can explain what these bonds
[55:35] are funding.
[55:39] What is the reason that our
[55:40] county has gone into debt like
[55:40] this?
[55:43] What are the projects that they
[55:43] are supporting?
[55:46] Thank you.
[55:51] Anyone online?
[55:55] I see no speakers no longer
[55:56] with that I'll bring it back to
[55:58] the board to entertain a motion
[55:59] I just wanted to see if we
[56:00] could get a response from staff
[56:02] to a question that was just
[56:05] raised.
[56:09] Sure, the redevelopment agency
[56:09] funded capital improvements as
[56:13] well as low and moderate income
[56:14] housing projects throughout the
[56:17] live socal redevelopment
[56:18] project area.
[56:21] Thank.
[56:22] I just want to express my
[56:23] appreciation for all the work
[56:25] that's going into this in the
[56:26] savings that's going to come
[56:26] back to the county.
[56:27] And so with that I'll move the
[56:29] staff recommendation.
[56:30] We have a supervisor coming in
[56:33] the second from supervisor
[56:33] Kvnig.
[56:34] We take a will call the
[56:37] supervisor sir but I cumming's
[56:40] martinez iconic and hernandez
[56:44] eye motion passes unanimously
[56:48] well now move on to item number
[56:49] eight and the next agenda item
[56:51] concerning approving
[56:51] specifications in engineer's
[56:56] estimate for 2025 event
[56:56] management project set online
[57:00] bid opening four to fifteen
[57:03] P.M. On MARCH six of 2025 and
[57:03] direct community development
[57:04] and infrastructure to return to
[57:07] on or before JUNE 24th, 2025
[57:11] ratification of the contract
[57:12] award and take all related
[57:15] actions alternate over to dc
[57:16] carlson senior civil engineer
[57:19] and steve wiesner assistant
[57:20] director of public works for
[57:27] the presentation a thank you
[57:28] chair hernandez and ood
[57:30] morning board members opelousas
[57:34] members of the public again my
[57:35] name is steve wiesner,
[57:35] assistant director of public
[57:38] works in the community
[57:38] development infrastructure
[57:42] department and today with casey
[57:42] carlson.
[57:43] Casey is our senior civil
[57:44] engineer in charge of our
[57:45] pavement management program in
[57:46] public works and in chambers
[57:49] today also is matt machado
[57:50] who's our director of community
[57:53] development infrastructure and
[57:54] and as our chair said, we're
[57:57] here today to present on the
[57:58] twenty twenty five patient
[58:01] management project before I get
[58:02] going, I'd like to welcome
[58:02] supervisors martinez and
[58:05] desirably.
[58:06] I've had a chance to meet both
[58:09] of you and your staff and we're
[58:10] really looking forward to
[58:10] working with you on all things
[58:12] transportation in your
[58:13] districts looking forward to
[58:16] this this term as of today
[58:20] we're here again present on the
[58:21] 24 25 patient management
[58:24] project and it'll consist of a
[58:25] brief project funding overview.
[58:28] we'll talk a little about the
[58:29] project locations and some of
[58:29] the roads that are in the
[58:32] program and then finally we'll
[58:33] end with our recommended
[58:35] actions.
[58:36] Ok, just to cover the project
[58:39] funding a little bit.
[58:40] This project in particular is
[58:40] leveraging several funding
[58:43] sources to provide a robust
[58:44] paving project for the twenty
[58:47] twenty five season that
[58:47] integrates multiple sources of
[58:50] similar work into a single
[58:51] project which increases bid
[58:51] competition and lowers the
[58:55] overall cost of the work the
[58:55] project this project in
[58:58] particular is largely funded by
[59:02] major d which is which is the
[59:03] first funding source primarily
[59:03] dedicated to a local road
[59:05] paving.
[59:06] We've been putting out projects
[59:09] with measured since it passed.
[59:10] They passed in 2016.
[59:11] Our irst project came out in
[59:13] twenty eighteen and we've
[59:14] delivered a project every
[59:14] single year.
[59:17] I will note that we don't do
[59:18] work in every district every
[59:18] year.
[59:21] Sometimes we some we work at
[59:22] the supervisor's offices we opt
[59:25] to save money for a larger more
[59:28] meaningful project or sometimes
[59:29] the funding gets used for other
[59:32] projects as well but largely
[59:33] we're trying to keep this on
[59:36] local road resurfacing.
[59:37] So within this project there is
[59:40] an rtp grant which is it's
[59:40] federal regional surface
[59:41] transportation grant which gets
[59:44] exchanged to state dollars and
[59:47] and again we're using local
[59:48] measure d on that is our local
[59:51] match.
[59:52] and then in addition this
[59:53] project has a couple of other
[59:55] elements where we're partnering
[59:56] both with county parks and the
[59:56] county sanitation district to
[59:59] integrate some of their paving
[1:00:00] work into this project and we
[1:00:01] try to do that on a year to
[1:00:03] year asis.
[1:00:04] Sometimes it's with other
[1:00:04] jurisdictions.
[1:00:05] For instance, last year we
[1:00:07] partnered the city capitola
[1:00:08] when we're doing paving work on
[1:00:11] the boundaries of the county,
[1:00:12] we'll talk to our neighboring
[1:00:13] jurisdictions to see if they
[1:00:14] want to go on with us as well.
[1:00:15] Ok, so with that we're going to
[1:00:16] go into the project locations.
[1:00:19] I'll turn it over to asey.
[1:00:19] All right.
[1:00:22] So thank you, steve.
[1:00:23] Good morning everyone.
[1:00:27] District one we're working in
[1:00:30] the live oak and socal area
[1:00:31] district two we're going to be
[1:00:33] in the seacliff district three
[1:00:34] We're going to be on swanton
[1:00:37] district for the very southern
[1:00:38] part of the county ruggie lane
[1:00:41] and murphy's crossing and
[1:00:42] district five funds were used
[1:00:45] for the mountain charlie storm
[1:00:46] repair and I'm going to go into
[1:00:49] each of those in detail here.
[1:00:50] The district one you can see
[1:00:53] we're doing a lot f work in
[1:00:56] lubbock kind of the story
[1:00:57] behind hat's going on here is
[1:01:01] the portions that stretch as
[1:01:01] you can see in the photo there
[1:01:04] on socal avenue, the frontage
[1:01:05] road, the pure water socal
[1:01:08] project came through and did a
[1:01:09] pipeline and we're required to
[1:01:12] resurface half of the road that
[1:01:13] was affected by their project.
[1:01:14] We're going through the same
[1:01:17] corridors and picking up he
[1:01:17] second half of the road so that
[1:01:20] we can have full road projects
[1:01:21] through all those main
[1:01:24] transport corridors going to
[1:01:25] update the striping green bike
[1:01:26] lanes, enhanced striping for
[1:01:28] safety.
[1:01:29] So we're going to end up with a
[1:01:30] lot of great large stretches of
[1:01:33] roadway to this also doing some
[1:01:33] kind of more traditional
[1:01:36] measure neighborhood work in
[1:01:37] the lifeboat area near
[1:01:40] rodriguez and many district two
[1:01:43] and west again leveraging
[1:01:44] partnerships.
[1:01:47] We have county sanitation this
[1:01:48] winter is working on several
[1:01:51] trenching for main replacements
[1:01:52] in this neighborhood.
[1:01:55] So what we're doing is as a
[1:01:55] requirement of their project
[1:01:59] they would be required to repay
[1:02:00] certain of these streets.
[1:02:03] Instead roads is taking their
[1:02:04] funds and adding measure d to
[1:02:06] that and getting a large
[1:02:07] neighborhood resurfacing
[1:02:10] project in seacliff and this is
[1:02:11] the third seacliff area project
[1:02:12] we've done with measure d and
[1:02:15] it will pretty much it's the
[1:02:15] last major area of seacliff
[1:02:16] that we haven't gotten yet with
[1:02:16] the program.
[1:02:19] So this will pretty much make
[1:02:21] seacliff hole when we're done
[1:02:22] district three very excited
[1:02:25] about this one.
[1:02:26] So you spoke about saving funds
[1:02:29] for future work and district
[1:02:30] three has been patiently saving
[1:02:33] funding for five to six years
[1:02:34] to enact this project which
[1:02:37] will get that section of green.
[1:02:38] There is four and a half iles
[1:02:41] which the portion north of that
[1:02:45] was done in I believe 2010 or
[1:02:45] 2011 and that was a full paving
[1:02:49] job that did a pretty good ob
[1:02:49] on that section.
[1:02:50] But the remainder of the road
[1:02:52] has been needing work for some
[1:02:53] time and we're going to go
[1:02:54] through and do a major repaving
[1:02:56] on all of that.
[1:02:59] So excited about that other
[1:03:00] major goals here.
[1:03:00] District four has been wanting
[1:03:01] us to repave murphy's crossing
[1:03:04] for a long time roky lane as
[1:03:08] well and we were able in 2023
[1:03:13] to obtain a grant svp grant to
[1:03:14] through the state and we're
[1:03:15] going to leverage that with
[1:03:18] measure funding for the local
[1:03:18] match requirement on that grant
[1:03:21] and we're going to be able to
[1:03:22] do a full death recycle and
[1:03:24] repaving for murphy's crossing
[1:03:25] and a full repaving for ruggie
[1:03:26] lane.
[1:03:26] So that's going to leave those
[1:03:28] major ommute routes in great
[1:03:29] shape.
[1:03:29] District five as mentioned
[1:03:33] before we had an emergency on
[1:03:36] mt. Charlie that pretty much
[1:03:37] major section of roadway just
[1:03:40] slid down the hill to hold the
[1:03:41] whole mountain moved and
[1:03:44] district highest priority was
[1:03:45] to get this community made
[1:03:48] whole again.
[1:03:49] So we did a temporary repair.
[1:03:50] Unfortunately there weren't any
[1:03:53] disaster funds available for
[1:03:53] this project so maitre d had to
[1:03:56] be used to make that work.
[1:03:57] We're continuing to seek
[1:04:00] funding to replace that.
[1:04:01] If we're successful then those
[1:04:04] measure funds would go back
[1:04:07] into other needs for district
[1:04:07] five.
[1:04:08] Another partnership we have
[1:04:11] here is county parks.
[1:04:12] They wanted to resurface moran
[1:04:15] lake parking lot had a similar
[1:04:16] partnership that worked well in
[1:04:16] 2023.
[1:04:19] We did their until lake parking
[1:04:19] lot addition to the green
[1:04:23] valley path that we're doing
[1:04:23] there.
[1:04:26] And so this again we're able to
[1:04:27] deliver a lower unit cost for
[1:04:30] them in terms of teel and
[1:04:31] striping and having that work
[1:04:34] in our project but more work in
[1:04:35] our bid which also lowers our
[1:04:38] unit cost so works out well for
[1:04:39] everybody in the work is
[1:04:42] overseen by people that are
[1:04:42] used to watching steel and
[1:04:43] striping go down so we know
[1:04:44] what to look for.
[1:04:45] With that I'll turn it back to
[1:04:48] steve for a recommended actions
[1:04:49] All right.
[1:04:49] Thank you, casey.
[1:04:52] I do want to note just for
[1:04:53] everyone's information so we
[1:04:56] work very closely with each
[1:04:57] supervisor's office on our
[1:04:57] paving program and the roads
[1:05:00] that get included.
[1:05:01] That work usually starts around
[1:05:02] the fall for the following
[1:05:05] seasons project and so we'll
[1:05:05] start orking with your team.
[1:05:08] We'll let you know what our
[1:05:09] ideas are, what we think is up
[1:05:11] and what would be good based
[1:05:12] all a host of different factors
[1:05:16] and so usually in a project
[1:05:16] like this comes to your board
[1:05:17] you'll fully know like all the
[1:05:20] reasons why and nd and what we
[1:05:20] have before you.
[1:05:21] Ok, so with that the
[1:05:23] recommended actions you had
[1:05:24] before you here today are to
[1:05:24] approve the specifications
[1:05:28] engineers estimate authorize a
[1:05:28] call for bids for the 2025
[1:05:32] management project set the bid
[1:05:32] opening for 215 on MARCH six,
[1:05:35] 2025 direct the clerk of board
[1:05:36] to advertise the notice for
[1:05:39] contractors r ten day period
[1:05:43] beginning FEBRUARY 15th, 2025.
[1:05:44] The provisions of the public
[1:05:46] contract code section 2092
[1:05:47] authorize the deputy ceo
[1:05:47] director of community
[1:05:51] development and infrastructure
[1:05:51] to award and sign the contract
[1:05:54] with the qualified low bidder
[1:05:55] director of community
[1:05:56] development infrastructure to
[1:05:59] return on or before JUNE 24th,
[1:05:59] 2025 for ratification of the
[1:06:03] contract award and approve the
[1:06:06] transfer of funds in the amount
[1:06:07] of one point eight one million
[1:06:11] dollars from the measure to
[1:06:11] account for the 2025 payment
[1:06:14] management project and approve
[1:06:14] a transfer of funds in the
[1:06:17] amount of one point zero three
[1:06:18] five million from the measure d
[1:06:22] account excuse me from the
[1:06:25] intercounty roots artist grant
[1:06:26] fund account for the 2025
[1:06:29] payment management project and
[1:06:29] with that we're happy to take
[1:06:33] any questions you might ask but
[1:06:36] so we're going to go out to the
[1:06:37] public, see if the public has
[1:06:44] any questions.
[1:06:48] Again, thank steinbrenner,
[1:06:49] PRESIDENT Of rural aptos as a
[1:06:52] member of the public I have
[1:06:55] always wondered how you decide
[1:06:56] where this these paving areas
[1:06:59] are going to be.
[1:07:02] I would really like to see the
[1:07:03] measure g money focused on
[1:07:07] improving maintaining the
[1:07:09] critical evacuation routes in
[1:07:14] our districts.
[1:07:14] It's great for the people in
[1:07:15] seacliff.
[1:07:17] This is their third project.
[1:07:18] What about the other areas of
[1:07:22] district to also think it is
[1:07:26] not right that the county is
[1:07:29] helping so creek water district
[1:07:30] repair the damage that their
[1:07:33] pure water sokal project has
[1:07:34] done on this local avenue
[1:07:35] frontage road.
[1:07:37] It is significant and they've
[1:07:38] done repaving there and they've
[1:07:41] done repaving in other areas
[1:07:42] but I don't think it's right
[1:07:45] for the county to have to go in
[1:07:48] and clean it up and I don't
[1:07:49] think there's room for a bike
[1:07:49] lane there.
[1:07:52] It's very narrow.
[1:07:56] So those are my concerns.
[1:08:00] I am happy to see that the
[1:08:01] county is working efficiently
[1:08:04] with the parks department to
[1:08:07] help pay the parking lots and
[1:08:08] some of the county parks.
[1:08:12] I would like to add the aptos
[1:08:15] village parking lot aptos
[1:08:15] village park parking lot to
[1:08:19] that it is in very serious
[1:08:22] disrepair and that's a very
[1:08:23] popular park.
[1:08:26] It's the hub of the events that
[1:08:27] go on on JULY 4th and other
[1:08:30] events.
[1:08:31] So it really needs work and I'd
[1:08:34] like to see that next year's
[1:08:35] list if we continue this great
[1:08:38] park partnership with parks.
[1:08:39] So if you could someone answer
[1:08:42] my question how you decide this
[1:08:45] these project areas are I to
[1:08:45] very much appreciate that.
[1:08:48] Thank you.
[1:08:55] Online gesture calling user to
[1:09:03] your microphones now available
[1:09:08] and the maryland gerould.
[1:09:09] And as I was listening to your
[1:09:12] report, I was also struck by
[1:09:16] the comment about how the
[1:09:19] county is having to repair the
[1:09:24] damage caused by pure water so
[1:09:27] called project.
[1:09:29] And I was thinking that's just
[1:09:32] part of the damage the
[1:09:35] ramifications I call water and
[1:09:39] i was eating where they talked
[1:09:43] about all the chemicals that
[1:09:44] are in checked and I thought
[1:09:47] this is so damaging every way
[1:09:51] you look at it we need to be
[1:09:55] evaluating projects for all the
[1:09:59] ramifications that damage state
[1:10:03] courts and if there is so much
[1:10:07] damage hey shouldn't be taking
[1:10:11] place and I agree with that
[1:10:14] steinbrunner.
[1:10:18] This just doesn't seem right at
[1:10:18] all.
[1:10:19] The whole project seems
[1:10:23] deceptive and harmful to the
[1:10:23] public.
[1:10:29] Thank you.
[1:10:32] And your microphones are
[1:10:36] available.
[1:10:37] I also yes, I second hose
[1:10:40] concerns that becky had you
[1:10:44] know my concern here is
[1:10:45] obviously for the roads up top
[1:10:48] on sonic and I just like to
[1:10:49] make sure that those are
[1:10:52] maintained and our fire escapes
[1:10:56] are maintained and also I just
[1:10:56] wanted to point out when I
[1:10:59] heard the individuals talking
[1:11:00] about the gas blowers and all
[1:11:00] that sort of stuff, I want to
[1:11:03] make sure that the county
[1:11:04] understands that for our areas
[1:11:07] up top that are unicor rated
[1:11:07] with large plots of land,
[1:11:10] there's a lot of clearing and
[1:11:11] I'm just wondering I hope
[1:11:15] that's not targeted towards us
[1:11:16] You know, I can't imagine for
[1:11:19] the oment right now trying to
[1:11:20] use like an electric chainsaw
[1:11:22] or something or an electric
[1:11:23] blower when I have all this
[1:11:26] land clear and also the road
[1:11:27] behind my home that takes a
[1:11:30] school bus or there's kids on
[1:11:30] that.
[1:11:31] So I don't think the county or
[1:11:34] anyone's going to go after me
[1:11:35] for clearing that and clearing
[1:11:38] the gutter and making sure
[1:11:39] that's safe for my family, my
[1:11:42] neighbors and the school system
[1:11:42] that's coming around the corner
[1:11:43] with a bus.
[1:11:46] The only thing I've ever had
[1:11:47] county county folks do is you
[1:11:47] know, they they think me when
[1:11:50] I'm clearing the road with my
[1:11:51] blower.
[1:11:54] So I do understand people in
[1:11:58] the county farther down and
[1:11:58] urban and rural settings with
[1:12:01] regards to glassblowers but
[1:12:02] those sorts of things MAY not
[1:12:05] necessarily apply for all of us
[1:12:06] up top.
[1:12:06] So I just want to make sure
[1:12:07] that we have the tools and
[1:12:09] resources, especially if the
[1:12:10] county is not going to be able
[1:12:13] to step in paved oads and and
[1:12:14] clear roads and maintain them
[1:12:18] and so on for us to be able to
[1:12:21] maintain the marcellus anyways
[1:12:22] So those are my concerns.
[1:12:22] You folks have a fine day.
[1:12:28] Thank you very much.
[1:12:29] No further speakers.
[1:12:29] Sure.
[1:12:30] With that I'll bring back to
[1:12:32] the board for any questions
[1:12:32] comments.
[1:12:33] I'll start to my level of
[1:12:37] support the kind of picture I
[1:12:37] think the director wasner I
[1:12:40] think MR. Carlson it's always
[1:12:44] both and it's always great to
[1:12:45] look at the roles that we are
[1:12:46] going to get to resurface this
[1:12:46] year.
[1:12:48] And of course we always want to
[1:12:49] do more front of a state of the
[1:12:51] pavement address later this
[1:12:51] year and we'll discuss the fact
[1:12:55] that we should really be
[1:12:56] spending three times as much if
[1:12:56] we wanted to actually be
[1:12:59] maintaining the pavement index
[1:13:00] in our county that we we'd like
[1:13:00] to.
[1:13:03] But that said, you know, we an
[1:13:04] we can take the moment to
[1:13:07] celebrate some of the questions
[1:13:08] were raised about soko creek
[1:13:10] water district and their
[1:13:11] project and I think that we did
[1:13:12] politely request that they
[1:13:14] resurface the entire road and
[1:13:15] they politely declined.
[1:13:18] And so, you know, not wanting
[1:13:19] to get into some nasty dispute
[1:13:22] over that.
[1:13:23] You know, we're moving forward
[1:13:23] with with this and just
[1:13:24] spending the measured money to
[1:13:26] resurface the roads.
[1:13:27] But I mean as the picture
[1:13:30] demonstrated, we're not redoing
[1:13:31] the whole roads.
[1:13:32] So that's got to mean that we
[1:13:34] can do close to twice as much
[1:13:35] for only doing half of the
[1:13:35] road.
[1:13:35] Is that correct?
[1:13:38] Correct.
[1:13:39] So just to clarify what's going
[1:13:42] on the utility is required to
[1:13:43] resurface the portion that they
[1:13:46] affect which is half of the
[1:13:47] road.
[1:13:47] So we're not repairing their
[1:13:49] damage.
[1:13:50] We're getting the other half of
[1:13:51] a road that otherwise needed
[1:13:54] resurfacing before they touched
[1:13:54] it.
[1:13:55] So we're trying to make the
[1:13:58] road whole from half a project.
[1:13:59] Yeah, I need to go and check
[1:14:01] the condition index for me.
[1:14:02] You know well before they
[1:14:05] started these projects nd it
[1:14:06] was clear that some sections
[1:14:06] particularly long sokal avenue
[1:14:09] there near the intersections I
[1:14:10] really needed this work already
[1:14:10] and of course then there's
[1:14:13] other construction work
[1:14:14] happening in the area like the
[1:14:15] chanticleer rail bridge that
[1:14:17] I'm sure also being impacted by
[1:14:18] construction which is not the
[1:14:21] water district's full.
[1:14:22] So it'll be great to have that
[1:14:24] on these roads and standard
[1:14:25] condition for that for the
[1:14:26] whole whether the road going
[1:14:27] forward and of course new
[1:14:31] striping and everything to how
[1:14:35] the published question and how
[1:14:36] we decide how these roads are
[1:14:36] chosen.
[1:14:39] I mean I think it's fair to say
[1:14:40] that given the limited budget
[1:14:41] we often start with what's
[1:14:43] needed that for any given year
[1:14:47] and in this case the obviously
[1:14:47] the pure water so-called
[1:14:51] project sort of created this
[1:14:52] need that was at the top of the
[1:14:55] list and then I think it's fair
[1:14:56] to say that then we move out
[1:14:59] geographically from there,
[1:14:59] right?
[1:15:00] I mean is it because of the
[1:15:02] sort cost of picking up
[1:15:03] relocating all the equipment to
[1:15:06] a different part of the county
[1:15:07] I mean typically the way these
[1:15:10] conversations go between you
[1:15:10] guys in my offices.
[1:15:11] Ok, well what is the next
[1:15:14] immediate area to where we have
[1:15:15] to be working that we could
[1:15:18] address in a cost effective way
[1:15:19] to speak a little bit to sort
[1:15:19] of the costs associated with
[1:15:21] trying to do work in different
[1:15:22] parts of the county and the
[1:15:25] savings of doing work in one
[1:15:26] place or general area?
[1:15:26] Sure.
[1:15:29] Yeah, that's a very good point.
[1:15:30] I will say that, ou know, just
[1:15:33] from he outset maitre d was
[1:15:34] passed in the bucket of
[1:15:37] measured money the way it comes
[1:15:38] to us from the rtc it's in the
[1:15:40] neighborhood of safety and
[1:15:41] resurfacing bucket.
[1:15:41] The moneys are always intended
[1:15:44] for neighborhoods.
[1:15:45] This is an area that we were
[1:15:46] very shy on in that we didn't
[1:15:49] have enough money for for that
[1:15:49] for a couple of decades
[1:15:50] actually a better part of a
[1:15:52] couple of decades.
[1:15:53] So ah we did put out a survey
[1:15:56] to ur communities after
[1:15:57] measure d was passed in and
[1:16:00] neighborhood resurfacing was a
[1:16:01] high priority in that survey
[1:16:04] and so our concept has been to
[1:16:08] put a project out and in each
[1:16:12] district as as fast as we can
[1:16:12] really starting from the most
[1:16:13] heavily used roads in our
[1:16:16] neighborhoods and then sort of
[1:16:17] working our way out from that
[1:16:18] I'm a great example is
[1:16:20] justified.
[1:16:21] You know, we started with a
[1:16:22] project in boulder creek.
[1:16:25] We moved on to felton, we moved
[1:16:26] to ben lomond and then with he
[1:16:27] very next year we went back up
[1:16:28] to boulder creek and we started
[1:16:29] doing roads that were more on
[1:16:31] the extremity and so we started
[1:16:32] in town cause I'm down in
[1:16:35] district two we did work down
[1:16:36] in la selva as well as
[1:16:36] seacliff.
[1:16:38] We've also done some work out
[1:16:39] in the korologos area which is
[1:16:40] also in district two as well
[1:16:43] and again focusing on town core
[1:16:44] areas and then working our way
[1:16:47] out from that and as supervisor
[1:16:50] kind of alluded to it doesn't
[1:16:51] make a lot of sense to do a
[1:16:52] road here and they have to pick
[1:16:54] up everything, remobilize nd
[1:16:55] do a road a mile or two away
[1:16:59] and on not and so we when we do
[1:17:01] create a project we do look at
[1:17:02] opportunities within an area
[1:17:05] where we can get stuff that's
[1:17:06] really close to each other and
[1:17:06] adjacent.
[1:17:09] And so that's the basic concept
[1:17:10] Again, we work very closely
[1:17:10] with each board member to
[1:17:13] identify where those areas are
[1:17:14] and it's informed by a number
[1:17:17] of different factors.
[1:17:18] Mint condition is one of them
[1:17:21] obviously but neighborhood
[1:17:22] advocacy areas that we know are
[1:17:25] heavily traveled at he most
[1:17:26] people use we're really trying
[1:17:27] to get the most bang for our
[1:17:29] buck for our communities.
[1:17:32] And then I also know that the
[1:17:33] majority of our arterial major
[1:17:36] collector resurfacing is funded
[1:17:40] through the state and federal
[1:17:41] grants that we go for through
[1:17:41] the rtc and you know these are
[1:17:44] roads like so help drive
[1:17:45] freedom boulevard, bear creek
[1:17:49] road, sokal san jose road
[1:17:49] summer roads these are the
[1:17:50] roads that carry the vast
[1:17:53] volume of our commute traffic
[1:17:53] and those are resurfaced with
[1:17:57] other funds and we as much as
[1:17:57] possible we try to keep
[1:18:00] majority in the neighborhoods.
[1:18:01] Yeah, that's right.
[1:18:02] Thank you for bringing that up
[1:18:02] right.
[1:18:04] The consolidated call for grant
[1:18:07] that our rtc puts out every
[1:18:08] couple of years we will have
[1:18:08] one this year right at the end
[1:18:12] of the year and in the past
[1:18:12] we've resurfaced alba and
[1:18:15] jamison in the fifth district.
[1:18:16] Some of those funds we have a
[1:18:17] project moving forward for
[1:18:20] sokal san jose road with use
[1:18:23] those funds and so that's
[1:18:24] definitely another major
[1:18:25] probably the primary source of
[1:18:27] funds for as was mentioned at
[1:18:30] the escape routes or evacuation
[1:18:31] routes rather and some of those
[1:18:34] other materials.
[1:18:35] I just one other point to note
[1:18:36] is that we do have to have a
[1:18:45] local match for those larger
[1:18:45] grants as well.
[1:18:46] And so that's becoming
[1:18:47] increasingly difficult for us
[1:18:48] to find a local match.
[1:18:48] Hence why we're using some
[1:18:49] measured funds to match for
[1:18:50] murphy's boogie down in south
[1:18:50] county.
[1:18:50] Thank you.
[1:18:51] Looking forward to the thank
[1:18:51] you as a witness.
[1:18:53] Thank you chair.
[1:18:54] Well thank you to public works
[1:18:57] for the presentation and for
[1:18:58] working with the board offices
[1:18:58] each year to help prioritize
[1:19:02] projects as you can imagine as
[1:19:05] a as a candidate and now the
[1:19:06] new supervisor local road
[1:19:09] resurfacing has been a huge
[1:19:10] issue and there's a lot of
[1:19:11] deferred maintenance and so I'm
[1:19:13] eager to continue to work with
[1:19:14] you to help address these
[1:19:14] needs.
[1:19:16] I absolutely support the
[1:19:20] decision of my predecessor to
[1:19:21] allocate our measured funds to
[1:19:24] do the temporary road fix on
[1:19:24] mount charley.
[1:19:25] I visited mount charley road
[1:19:29] several imes and that was a
[1:19:29] real disaster for those
[1:19:32] residents.
[1:19:33] So thank you for your efforts
[1:19:34] to, you know, get in there and
[1:19:36] provide that temporary road.
[1:19:37] I know it's providing a lot of
[1:19:38] relief.
[1:19:40] I do hope that fema will
[1:19:41] someday reimburse us for those
[1:19:44] costs and those dollars would
[1:19:45] then be able to be reallocated
[1:19:48] to address other district needs
[1:19:49] and so will, you know, keep our
[1:19:52] fingers rossed and hope that
[1:19:53] that that MAY happen someday
[1:19:55] down the line.
[1:19:56] And I also want to just
[1:19:59] reiterate that in the next
[1:20:00] fiscal year I anticipate that
[1:20:03] our annual measured allocation
[1:20:04] will resume and that will be
[1:20:04] able to spread pavement
[1:20:07] management program more broadly
[1:20:11] across the fifth district.
[1:20:12] I do think that it's important
[1:20:13] for community members to
[1:20:14] understand that this pavement
[1:20:15] management program it's a
[1:20:18] critical way that we address
[1:20:19] road maintenance but it's not
[1:20:20] the only way would you be able
[1:20:23] to speak o other ways that we
[1:20:24] address road improvements on
[1:20:26] more on an ongoing basis here
[1:20:27] in the county?
[1:20:27] Sure.
[1:20:31] So in addition to our pavement
[1:20:32] management project, our annual
[1:20:34] pavement management project, we
[1:20:35] do have our annual maintenance
[1:20:37] road maintenance program which
[1:20:38] is run by and large by our
[1:20:42] operations team up in your area
[1:20:42] we run out of our feldon yard
[1:20:45] in the north ounty crew.
[1:20:46] They create a plan every year
[1:20:49] that involves regular ditching,
[1:20:50] regular culvert maintenance,
[1:20:53] regular roadway surface
[1:20:53] repairs.
[1:20:57] The mowing program is under
[1:20:57] them.
[1:20:58] And then of course these are
[1:20:59] the folks that are out there
[1:20:59] doing all of our storm patrol
[1:21:02] during, you know, inclement
[1:21:02] weather and keeping everything
[1:21:05] open as best as possible.
[1:21:06] And so it's a robust program
[1:21:07] this year we'll be presenting
[1:21:10] that year board as part of our
[1:21:10] budget and and it's an
[1:21:13] extensive program is much
[1:21:14] larger than what this pavement
[1:21:15] management project is comprised
[1:21:18] of throughout the county and
[1:21:18] throughout the 600 miles that
[1:21:21] we're responsible to maintain.
[1:21:22] Thanks.
[1:21:22] I really appreciate that
[1:21:23] because I know just as a
[1:21:25] resident of the valley I do see
[1:21:26] your teams out there working.
[1:21:26] I appreciate the work that
[1:21:29] you're doing and that sort of
[1:21:29] prevention work helps further
[1:21:32] destruction of roads when
[1:21:33] weather occurs.
[1:21:36] So thank you for that and I can
[1:21:37] I look forward to continuing to
[1:21:38] partner with you to address the
[1:21:40] needs of not only our fifth
[1:21:41] district residents but across
[1:21:41] the county.
[1:21:42] Thank you.
[1:21:44] Thank you or the comments and
[1:21:47] I'll be brief.
[1:21:48] I'll we just want to thank you
[1:21:52] all for your hard work on this
[1:21:54] and for just engaging with us
[1:21:55] and trying to help you know
[1:21:56] what we're trying to identify
[1:21:59] which roads we want to
[1:21:59] prioritize.
[1:22:00] It's just really great that we
[1:22:03] can connect with you all and
[1:22:03] use this as an opportunity to
[1:22:06] relay that information to the
[1:22:07] people who live within our
[1:22:08] districts and really make sure
[1:22:09] that we're aligned in terms of
[1:22:10] our priorities the roads and I
[1:22:11] know the folks in the district
[1:22:13] are going to be really happy
[1:22:14] about the improvements this
[1:22:14] mountain road because it's been
[1:22:17] a long time coming and it's
[1:22:18] really just grateful for for
[1:22:21] that and then also just want to
[1:22:22] express my appreciation around
[1:22:22] your willingness o engage with
[1:22:26] us as relates to smaller issues
[1:22:29] like potholes and trends.
[1:22:30] It MAY be a little dangerous
[1:22:33] and just appreciate the the
[1:22:34] willingness to work with us to
[1:22:35] try to address other issues as
[1:22:37] well just being there and
[1:22:40] finally I just knock on want
[1:22:41] this next atmospheric river
[1:22:41] doesn't take out more roads
[1:22:45] because it's about to hit us on
[1:22:45] thursday.
[1:22:46] It looks like it's going to be
[1:22:49] a big storm so hopefully we can
[1:22:49] be prepared for that as well.
[1:22:51] So thank you supervisor.
[1:22:52] I think thank you for the
[1:22:55] report.
[1:22:59] I think my predecessor used my
[1:23:00] allocation for his year to
[1:23:04] amend his budget for the
[1:23:08] seacliff area so
[1:23:09] congratulations to seacliff and
[1:23:12] I used to ive there.
[1:23:13] That's where I raised my
[1:23:14] children and I think that's a
[1:23:15] wise choice.
[1:23:20] However, I live in a rural area
[1:23:21] Many of my constituents live in
[1:23:22] a rural area.
[1:23:24] It is the number one problem
[1:23:25] that all of us in the rural
[1:23:27] areas face are roads that fail
[1:23:28] every year because they're not
[1:23:31] properly maintained.
[1:23:32] So to the extent that as
[1:23:36] somebody in the audience said
[1:23:39] that we can keep our roads that
[1:23:40] are evacuation roads and good
[1:23:41] repair I think of eureka canyon
[1:23:44] for example that is in horrible
[1:23:44] condition and needs to be
[1:23:47] repaired and I know monu can't
[1:23:48] really talk about that because
[1:23:49] his parents live up eureka
[1:23:50] canyon road.
[1:23:52] But I have many constituents
[1:23:55] and many friends that live up
[1:23:55] there in it.
[1:23:56] We need to fix it at some
[1:23:56] point.
[1:23:59] So I'm hopeful that we will do
[1:23:59] that in the future.
[1:24:00] My own road trout gulch road,
[1:24:02] the upper areas are in horrible
[1:24:06] condition and I've driven it
[1:24:07] with the road crews and have
[1:24:07] identified areas that were
[1:24:10] actually storm damage from
[1:24:11] years past.
[1:24:12] So I know those are on the list
[1:24:14] now but they hadn't been and so
[1:24:17] I was concerned that it took
[1:24:18] sort of me bringing it to the
[1:24:22] attention of the crews sort of
[1:24:25] years after some of those
[1:24:26] slides and washouts had
[1:24:29] occurred.
[1:24:33] So I actually look forward to
[1:24:34] spending more time with the
[1:24:34] road crews and going out and
[1:24:36] taking a look around with my
[1:24:37] own eyes with them so that we
[1:24:38] can make sure that our rural
[1:24:41] areas are well represented in
[1:24:41] the future.
[1:24:45] Can can we talk about for a
[1:24:45] minute some of the the grants
[1:24:48] that we get because I
[1:24:49] understood that some were
[1:24:50] coming through the rtc that
[1:24:52] might have been redirect to the
[1:24:57] metro budget and then of course
[1:24:57] that concerns me given the poor
[1:25:01] condition of our roads.
[1:25:01] I was wondering if either one
[1:25:04] of you could speak to that.
[1:25:08] Sure, I'd be happy to do so.
[1:25:08] The the great opportunities
[1:25:11] that we have at the rtc is
[1:25:12] typically for funding that
[1:25:15] comes to them by formula
[1:25:16] through the state and also the
[1:25:19] federal government and then the
[1:25:19] rtc takes that money in turn
[1:25:23] and makes all the local
[1:25:23] agencies compete for the money.
[1:25:26] And so it's a highly
[1:25:27] competitive process as you
[1:25:27] could imagine.
[1:25:30] We're competing with all the
[1:25:31] other local jurisdictions.
[1:25:32] That's the city of santa cruz,
[1:25:33] city of watsonville city
[1:25:34] capitola city of scotts valley
[1:25:38] but also metro gets to get in
[1:25:39] there and compete with with
[1:25:41] road money as well.
[1:25:42] And there's several nonprofits
[1:25:43] that are allowed to get to come
[1:25:46] in compete for those funding
[1:25:46] funds as well.
[1:25:50] And so like I said, it's a
[1:25:51] highly competitive program.
[1:25:53] The it's like a bianna program.
[1:25:54] They they try to be what they
[1:25:56] do is they kind of save up all
[1:25:58] the money that come to them by
[1:25:59] formula and then once every two
[1:25:59] years sometimes it's once every
[1:26:01] three years they cobble a bunch
[1:26:02] of different funds or sources
[1:26:05] together to what they call the
[1:26:08] rtc consolidated grant program
[1:26:09] and we have to o really hard
[1:26:12] after this money to even get 50
[1:26:13] percent of it.
[1:26:14] And I will say that as an
[1:26:16] example let's say there's
[1:26:17] twenty million dollars
[1:26:17] available.
[1:26:19] We feel like the county should
[1:26:20] be successful.
[1:26:21] We need at east 50 percent of
[1:26:23] those funds we have around
[1:26:24] fifty percent of the population
[1:26:25] and then the unincorporated
[1:26:28] areas we have the worst pci out
[1:26:29] of any of the local
[1:26:32] jurisdictions and we have the
[1:26:33] most road miles and lane miles
[1:26:35] and the most challenging
[1:26:36] terrain to maintain as well.
[1:26:40] And so when we get 50 percent
[1:26:41] or more we feel like that's
[1:26:43] fair.
[1:26:44] There's if you look at the past
[1:26:45] couple of decades of these
[1:26:46] competitions, there's been
[1:26:47] plenty of times where we've
[1:26:48] gotten less and I will say the
[1:26:50] rtc gets to compete for that
[1:26:51] money too as well.
[1:26:52] So it's highly competitive
[1:26:54] process.
[1:26:55] We work really closely with
[1:26:56] with our board members and that
[1:26:58] because you guys all sit on
[1:26:59] that on that commission as well
[1:27:02] and we go hard after money, we
[1:27:03] try to do the very best we can
[1:27:06] to balance our assets so that
[1:27:06] we're getting benefit
[1:27:07] throughout the entire 600 mile
[1:27:10] road network nd so we'll look
[1:27:10] forward to that.
[1:27:11] I think the next one is coming
[1:27:14] this fall.
[1:27:15] I think the call will come out
[1:27:15] in AUGUST or SEPTEMBER sometime
[1:27:18] usually the grants are due in
[1:27:19] OCTOBER, NOVEMBER and in
[1:27:21] DECEMBER they you know, they
[1:27:22] announce their awards and they
[1:27:23] try to line it up with the
[1:27:25] information that they're
[1:27:26] required to submit to the state
[1:27:26] for the tep program and that's
[1:27:29] really just a part of the
[1:27:29] package.
[1:27:30] Thank you because I don't think
[1:27:33] I need this information before
[1:27:33] and in terms of the nonprofits
[1:27:34] that are competing for the
[1:27:37] money who like who are they
[1:27:38] what I like like santa cruz
[1:27:41] county for their complete
[1:27:41] streets sometimes the friends
[1:27:45] of the rail trail, you know,
[1:27:46] local transportation advocacy
[1:27:49] groups.
[1:27:49] Yeah.
[1:27:53] And ah ah well this is a longer
[1:27:53] conversation maybe that I can
[1:27:56] help with you later but ah the
[1:27:57] grants awarded points based on
[1:28:01] how the station you know bike
[1:28:04] lanes they had a scoring's
[1:28:05] system that has several
[1:28:06] different categories you know
[1:28:08] that they weight the scores on
[1:28:09] it's it's really fairly
[1:28:09] organized.
[1:28:10] They have kind of traditional
[1:28:13] application that they've had as
[1:28:14] do so we'd be happy to share
[1:28:16] with you past applications and
[1:28:17] sort of what their program is.
[1:28:21] Ok, and then I MAY ave
[1:28:22] mentioned this once before but
[1:28:25] I would like to again formally
[1:28:28] think trustee theresa bond from
[1:28:29] the los gatos saratoga's school
[1:28:29] district.
[1:28:32] She and I worked together to
[1:28:32] get some fema money actually
[1:28:36] released from the usc partment
[1:28:36] of education.
[1:28:37] I was trying to get it for the
[1:28:40] parro parro kids at para middle
[1:28:43] school and I was not successful
[1:28:44] because they were already
[1:28:46] giving us money for the repair
[1:28:47] of the middle school.
[1:28:48] However, we were successful in
[1:28:51] bringing a hundred ninety five
[1:28:52] thousand dollars to the mom and
[1:28:55] charlie community to the school
[1:28:55] district so they could give
[1:28:56] alternate transportation during
[1:28:59] that time and probably still
[1:29:00] using that for the kids there.
[1:29:03] So thank you very much teresa
[1:29:04] for including me in that effort
[1:29:06] at first and thanks for the
[1:29:07] report today.
[1:29:14] DR. You know some of the
[1:29:14] questions from supervisor just
[1:29:18] kind of reminded me of the last
[1:29:19] conversation I had to do with
[1:29:22] the road assessment and it
[1:29:23] reminded me that metro wanted
[1:29:25] to be part of the break or a
[1:29:25] great area.
[1:29:29] The roads I believe that's the
[1:29:29] case.
[1:29:30] We should consider ixing rural
[1:29:33] roads as part of the metros
[1:29:37] kind of some there are things
[1:29:38] that they want to accomplish as
[1:29:38] well.
[1:29:41] So I'd be happy to entertain
[1:29:44] something like that later on.
[1:29:45] But first I want to thank the
[1:29:48] hard work of community
[1:29:48] development and infrastructure.
[1:29:52] You know, it's often thankless
[1:29:52] job.
[1:29:53] You guys are the unsung heroes
[1:29:56] for most of us.
[1:29:59] My colleagues here rural road
[1:30:04] potholes are the brunt of our
[1:30:07] calls that we get in emails so
[1:30:08] I want to thank you guys for
[1:30:09] all the work that you got done
[1:30:11] you guys have done.
[1:30:12] Actually I've driven eureka
[1:30:13] canyon last week for some
[1:30:16] reason was on highway seventeen
[1:30:17] and it took me after eureka
[1:30:19] occasion I noticed the two
[1:30:22] washouts are built back up and
[1:30:23] there's a lot of pothole
[1:30:23] repair.
[1:30:27] It's it is starting to come up,
[1:30:27] back up out.
[1:30:31] But I'll second you know, back
[1:30:32] up the eureka canyon to be
[1:30:35] repaired as well at some point
[1:30:36] But I want to thank you guys
[1:30:39] for the work that you guys
[1:30:39] brought here today from the
[1:30:41] parks.
[1:30:43] Now charlie, the seacliff
[1:30:46] repairs all the bike and
[1:30:47] pedestrian infrastructure, the
[1:30:50] bike lanes on sokal, bulgaria
[1:30:50] 110.
[1:30:54] But of course no one that I'm
[1:30:54] really happy about is the
[1:30:57] murphy crossing in ruggie
[1:30:58] repairs.
[1:31:01] I do have one question since
[1:31:01] there's a lot there's a
[1:31:02] proximity to the two locations,
[1:31:05] is that going to go as one rfp
[1:31:06] or two separate ones?
[1:31:09] but well they're both in this
[1:31:10] project o they'll get bid
[1:31:13] together and you know, our
[1:31:13] anticipation would be is that
[1:31:14] they'd be done by the same
[1:31:16] contractor just about the same
[1:31:17] period of time.
[1:31:17] Okay.
[1:31:20] Well with that I'll bring it
[1:31:21] back to the board to entertain
[1:31:22] motion.
[1:31:26] I'm a I'm of the recommended
[1:31:27] actions.
[1:31:30] Well, we have a we have a
[1:31:34] motion from supervisor cummings
[1:31:35] and a second from the server.
[1:31:36] But can we take a roll call
[1:31:36] vote?
[1:31:36] Absolutely.
[1:31:38] Supervisor hi martinez.
[1:31:42] I'm coming to sirpa I and
[1:31:43] hernandez I motion passes
[1:31:46] unanimously.
[1:31:49] The next item on the agenda is
[1:31:50] item number nine consider
[1:31:51] update the update and
[1:31:53] presentation of the strategic
[1:31:54] plan community indicators and
[1:31:58] take all related actions.
[1:31:59] I'll turn it over to our sales
[1:31:59] team.
[1:32:02] Nicole colburn is the ceo and
[1:32:03] then send stafford principal
[1:32:06] administrator analysts for the
[1:32:10] presentation I come morning to
[1:32:10] hernandez and members of the
[1:32:11] board.
[1:32:14] I'm nicole cowburn, assistant
[1:32:15] ceo and I'm here with ben
[1:32:17] stafford, a principal
[1:32:18] administrative analyst in their
[1:32:21] office and together we're here
[1:32:21] to provide an update on our
[1:32:24] community indicators hese
[1:32:25] measures are what we use to
[1:32:29] track progress on the county's
[1:32:29] strategic plan at a very high
[1:32:30] level.
[1:32:33] This update that you're going
[1:32:34] to receive today reflects
[1:32:36] feedback from the county's data
[1:32:37] and equity team as well as the
[1:32:40] circle on antiracism economic
[1:32:44] and social justice and we're
[1:32:44] here to gather broad input
[1:32:45] before we finalize these
[1:32:47] updates.
[1:32:49] So let's start with an overview
[1:32:49] of what we're going to cover
[1:32:52] today.
[1:32:56] So I want to emphasize that
[1:32:56] we're really here to listen to
[1:32:59] you and gather your thoughts
[1:33:00] and hear any feedback you might
[1:33:01] have to ensure that the revised
[1:33:04] indicators reflect the county's
[1:33:05] priorities and in particular
[1:33:07] the board's priorities.
[1:33:09] So let's begin with why we
[1:33:12] track these indicators in the
[1:33:12] first place.
[1:33:16] The county's mission is to be
[1:33:17] open, responsive and data
[1:33:20] driven community indicators are
[1:33:20] an essential part of any
[1:33:24] strategic plan.
[1:33:24] They measure our results.
[1:33:27] They help us align with our
[1:33:28] partners in the community and
[1:33:31] they hold us accountable by
[1:33:31] aligning these indicators with
[1:33:32] our board approved initiatives
[1:33:35] we ensure that efforts across
[1:33:36] county departments and partners
[1:33:39] are working together
[1:33:39] efficiently and effectively.
[1:33:43] Now let's take a look at how
[1:33:44] these indicators were
[1:33:46] originally structured in twenty
[1:33:47] eighteen to twenty twenty four
[1:33:50] strategic plan.
[1:33:51] So back then when the original
[1:33:55] indicators were developed in
[1:33:56] twenty nineteen we had a total
[1:33:59] of twenty five measures spread
[1:34:00] across five focus areas we
[1:34:03] attached a handout to the board
[1:34:04] item that listed all of the
[1:34:07] twenty ive measures in case
[1:34:08] you wanted to take a look at
[1:34:11] what they were they were really
[1:34:11] far reaching ithin each of
[1:34:14] those areas.
[1:34:14] These indicators had been
[1:34:15] helpful in tracking our big
[1:34:18] picture trends and in
[1:34:19] particular in the area of
[1:34:22] homelessness where indicator
[1:34:22] was tied to the board adopted
[1:34:23] housing for healthy santacruz
[1:34:26] framework.
[1:34:27] We've been able to see the
[1:34:30] indicators reflect the work and
[1:34:30] results in that area and see
[1:34:35] some improvement over over time
[1:34:35] we've learned that tracking to
[1:34:37] many of these measures can
[1:34:38] create challenges.
[1:34:39] So why are we making these
[1:34:42] changes at this time to the
[1:34:43] community indicators?
[1:34:47] Let's discuss the main reason
[1:34:48] and I'm going to turn it over
[1:34:48] to sven.
[1:34:48] Thanks, nicole.
[1:34:50] Good morning, board.
[1:34:54] So our new indicator's are
[1:34:55] revising and increasing our
[1:34:55] focus.
[1:34:58] We know that when people are
[1:34:59] presented with too many choices
[1:35:02] they become overwhelmed and
[1:35:03] that can lead to a lack of
[1:35:06] focus and a lack of action.
[1:35:07] Most of our reports were
[1:35:10] unconnected to measures that
[1:35:11] tracked in other county reports
[1:35:14] and so there was often a lack
[1:35:15] of alignment and one thing the
[1:35:18] board had mentioned last time
[1:35:19] we were here on the strategic
[1:35:22] plan was how we connecting to
[1:35:22] other board initiatives and
[1:35:25] priorities.
[1:35:26] Finally we receive feedback
[1:35:26] that the indicators needed to
[1:35:29] reflect the experiences of all
[1:35:30] communities in the county,
[1:35:33] particularly those were
[1:35:33] historically underrepresented.
[1:35:37] this aligns with our county
[1:35:38] equity statement and helps us
[1:35:41] think about what it means for
[1:35:41] all of us to belong.
[1:35:45] So let's look at the proposed
[1:35:45] streamlined indicators and how
[1:35:46] they align with county
[1:35:49] priorities.
[1:35:50] We've reduced the number of
[1:35:53] indicators to eight one per
[1:35:57] focus area making it easier to
[1:35:57] track progress and drive
[1:35:58] action.
[1:36:01] Each indicators directly tied
[1:36:02] to an existing county
[1:36:05] initiative ensuring alignment
[1:36:06] with board approved plans and
[1:36:10] instead of tracking, for
[1:36:11] example, multiple housing
[1:36:14] related indicators separately
[1:36:15] we focus on we're focusing on
[1:36:18] one year housing units added
[1:36:22] which tracks our allocation
[1:36:22] from the regional housing needs
[1:36:25] assessment is key to meeting
[1:36:26] and is also key to meeting our
[1:36:27] goals in the housing for a
[1:36:29] healthy santa cruz county plan
[1:36:33] especially in terms of building
[1:36:34] low income and very low income
[1:36:37] housing.
[1:36:38] I just note that this indicator
[1:36:40] is also easier to grasp in
[1:36:41] terms of its communication
[1:36:45] power rather than some of our
[1:36:46] other indicators around, you
[1:36:49] know, spending thirty percent
[1:36:52] of your income on housing.
[1:36:53] It's it's just a little bit
[1:36:56] easier for people to understand
[1:36:56] and understand the connection
[1:37:00] between housing units added and
[1:37:04] meeting our housing goals.
[1:37:05] Another example on this page as
[1:37:08] you take a look at the other
[1:37:11] indicators on here is nstead
[1:37:11] of tracking multiple
[1:37:12] environmental related
[1:37:15] statistics, we're focusing on
[1:37:16] greenhouse gas emissions which
[1:37:19] is really the core metric put
[1:37:20] forward in the climate action
[1:37:22] and adaptation plan.
[1:37:27] And then if we're looking at
[1:37:31] our health indicator previously
[1:37:31] when we tracked multiple
[1:37:35] indicators it often made it
[1:37:36] difficult or obfuscated the
[1:37:39] story behind the data and by
[1:37:40] focusing on one high impact
[1:37:43] metric we can understand a
[1:37:44] little bit more about our
[1:37:45] community and the narratives
[1:37:47] that are underneath here.
[1:37:48] So if you look at adults who
[1:37:51] have a routine checkup, this is
[1:37:52] an important ndicator linked
[1:37:54] with our community health
[1:37:54] improvement plan.
[1:37:55] Adults who have a routine
[1:38:06] checkup are more likely to
[1:38:06] maintain good health in
[1:38:07] general.
[1:38:08] If you look at the countywide
[1:38:08] trend here, santacruz county
[1:38:09] residents have better access to
[1:38:09] health care than other
[1:38:10] california residents on average
[1:38:11] when we disaggregate that
[1:38:15] number by region we can start
[1:38:16] to see a more nuanced story and
[1:38:18] so regular checkups in south
[1:38:22] county are less prevalent than
[1:38:23] in other regions of the county.
[1:38:26] We know in general that adults
[1:38:27] with inflexible work hours go
[1:38:30] to the doctor less.
[1:38:31] We also know that fewer adults
[1:38:31] will access these kind of
[1:38:33] safety that preventative
[1:38:34] services if they think there's
[1:38:37] any risk that they're their
[1:38:38] family might be put at risk of
[1:38:41] deportation.
[1:38:42] So this really helps us focus
[1:38:45] on intentional potential
[1:38:48] unintentional and goals that we
[1:38:52] might put in place to not only
[1:38:53] raise access to health care for
[1:38:53] everyone but to try to help
[1:38:56] folks in south county increase
[1:38:59] that access faster and I'll
[1:39:04] pass back to nicole to wrap up.
[1:39:07] So in terms of what we planned
[1:39:08] next so the next step is to
[1:39:11] integrate these indicators as
[1:39:12] part of our strategic plan
[1:39:15] refresh process ensuring they
[1:39:16] become a core part of how we
[1:39:19] measure success and what that
[1:39:23] looks like is in this fall we
[1:39:24] are going to be using these
[1:39:25] indicators as part of our
[1:39:27] community outreach to help us
[1:39:31] define what success looks like
[1:39:31] within each measure.
[1:39:35] This outreach will also allow
[1:39:35] to develop meaningful,
[1:39:39] measurable targets within each
[1:39:40] indicator that align ith the
[1:39:40] board approved initiatives in
[1:39:43] county priorities.
[1:39:44] The final set of indicators and
[1:39:47] targets that we're going o
[1:39:48] take all of your feedback and
[1:39:50] all the feedback from this
[1:39:51] engagement process will be
[1:39:54] brought back to this board next
[1:39:55] spring of spring of twenty
[1:39:58] twenty six ensuring that we
[1:39:59] have a clear roadmap for
[1:39:59] tracking and improving
[1:40:02] community outcomes.
[1:40:03] So now we'd really love to hear
[1:40:06] your feedback and answer any
[1:40:07] questions you might have as we
[1:40:10] move forward with the process.
[1:40:15] I'm going to get to the public
[1:40:16] now, turn to the public, see if
[1:40:16] there's anyone that wishes to
[1:40:17] speak on this item.
[1:40:20] Please approach the podium team
[1:40:24] We have one nicholas whitehead
[1:40:25] I'm a volunteer with an
[1:40:29] organization that helps low
[1:40:33] income families in the service
[1:40:37] industries and a lot of them a
[1:40:38] team the majority are
[1:40:40] undocumented.
[1:40:41] i'm wondering if this update
[1:40:44] here includes the new
[1:40:47] conditions under which a whole
[1:40:51] nation is subquery.
[1:40:52] Maybe there needs to be an
[1:40:55] update on the update from that
[1:40:59] family security regarding I
[1:41:03] don't expect an answer but just
[1:41:04] so I'll be it hanging in there.
[1:41:07] Thank you.
[1:41:11] Thank you everybody online.
[1:41:11] Yes.
[1:41:14] We have speakers online thamir
[1:41:18] microphones now available.
[1:41:18] Oh hi.
[1:41:19] Thank you very much.
[1:41:22] So yeah I just wondered similar
[1:41:23] I don't know how all this plays
[1:41:26] out today.
[1:41:29] You know I'm quite worried
[1:41:30] about our government the lack
[1:41:33] of bipartisanship is is just
[1:41:37] it's staggering and the thing
[1:41:38] is is they're jumping into all
[1:41:41] of our personal data and
[1:41:41] whatnot.
[1:41:42] So it's quite weird.
[1:41:46] It doesn't seem to be that MR.
[1:41:49] Trump is appreciative of the
[1:41:53] environment and it's so much so
[1:41:54] that that it's just it's mind
[1:41:58] blowing and you know, the lack
[1:42:01] of inclusiveness you little
[1:42:02] things like with the military
[1:42:05] like trying to to isappear the
[1:42:08] contributions that black
[1:42:09] americans made during world war
[1:42:13] two and native americans and
[1:42:16] people from the lgbtq community
[1:42:20] namely alan turing for example
[1:42:21] we wouldn't even exist if it
[1:42:24] wasn't for alan turing and
[1:42:25] native american people that
[1:42:28] allowed the situa where we
[1:42:32] could talk in secret and you
[1:42:33] could hear the japanese and we
[1:42:34] could defeat the japanese at
[1:42:36] the battle of midway.
[1:42:37] So all these little things here
[1:42:40] we have a federal government
[1:42:44] here that doesn't appreciate
[1:42:44] our native american community
[1:42:45] doesn't appreciate
[1:42:48] inclusiveness whatsoever,
[1:42:49] doesn't appreciate black
[1:42:49] people.
[1:42:52] It's so weird and they don't
[1:42:52] appreciate the environment of
[1:42:55] which we all depend on.
[1:42:56] I mean obviously no what no one
[1:43:00] here wants a bowl of salad ith
[1:43:00] cobalt nickel in it.
[1:43:04] So I on't know where we're
[1:43:07] going with a great many of
[1:43:08] things and I'm quite worried
[1:43:08] anyways.
[1:43:10] I like your presentation.
[1:43:11] Thank you so much.
[1:43:12] You take it easy buddy.
[1:43:19] Ad use your to your microphone
[1:43:29] is now available being as I was
[1:43:30] listening to your presentation
[1:43:34] I was thinking of people who
[1:43:37] are unhealth some of whom
[1:43:41] testified before your board
[1:43:42] today.
[1:43:45] So when you talk about housing
[1:43:48] indicators what is the reality
[1:43:49] and then homeless people are
[1:43:54] being rounded done and what
[1:43:58] little belongings they have are
[1:44:01] being taken from them that's
[1:44:01] like you know, stealing
[1:44:04] somebody is sheels homeowners
[1:44:08] house they get in trouble but
[1:44:09] the officials can steal from
[1:44:12] the homeless and get away with
[1:44:15] that inclusiveness.
[1:44:16] How are people on the house
[1:44:20] included in the housing?
[1:44:21] They're not not included in the
[1:44:25] world to the country and we now
[1:44:27] have country that's run by
[1:44:32] billionaire plutocrats and so
[1:44:32] there is going to be more and
[1:44:38] more poverty anyway.
[1:44:43] It just seems like a lot of
[1:44:46] rhetoric and I'm thinking of
[1:44:51] food, not bombs, money spent.
[1:44:52] I'm reading from news by the
[1:44:55] world weapons in one week it's
[1:44:58] enough to feed all the people
[1:44:59] for a year when millions of
[1:45:03] people go hungry we could say
[1:45:06] on houses well each day how can
[1:45:07] we spend another dollar on the
[1:45:10] war more than 25000 people die
[1:45:13] because of hunger every day.
[1:45:14] If you feel that people need
[1:45:18] more food than bombs, we invite
[1:45:21] you to call us today food not
[1:45:22] bombs.
[1:45:25] Drop that or one 800 eight
[1:45:30] eight four one one three six
[1:45:34] and once they do we have no
[1:45:34] finish because you're on our
[1:45:37] turn to turn to my fellow board
[1:45:38] members or see if anyone has
[1:45:39] any questions.
[1:45:39] I'm going to start to my
[1:45:41] immediate left supervisor
[1:45:45] martinez.
[1:45:46] Tank you.
[1:45:48] Chair.
[1:45:49] Thank you to the staff for
[1:45:50] providing this update.
[1:45:52] It's clear that you're
[1:45:53] continuing to make progress on
[1:45:56] refining our approach to
[1:45:57] addressing big countywide
[1:45:57] goals.
[1:45:58] And so I appreciate you
[1:46:01] bringing us to us after
[1:46:04] reviewing the indicators I did
[1:46:08] have a couple just suggestions
[1:46:09] for things that might be
[1:46:12] missing.
[1:46:13] The first is, you know, through
[1:46:16] my role leading large health
[1:46:16] and human services
[1:46:17] organizations and partnering
[1:46:19] with the health community, it
[1:46:23] seems like there's a very
[1:46:24] vulnerable population that is
[1:46:28] struggling with both mental
[1:46:28] health challenges, untreated
[1:46:32] substance use disorder and
[1:46:32] homelessness and it's kind of
[1:46:36] this trifecta that's very
[1:46:36] expensive.
[1:46:40] it impacts our jail systems and
[1:46:40] public safety.
[1:46:41] It impacts our health care
[1:46:44] systems often it's a mandate of
[1:46:47] the county to provide these
[1:46:48] safety net services.
[1:46:51] And so as they think about, you
[1:46:52] know, these indicators and
[1:46:54] health and wellness, I'm not
[1:46:55] quite seeing how we're
[1:46:58] targeting that really sort
[1:46:59] vulnerable high risk and
[1:46:59] expensive population and it
[1:47:02] might be helpful to to consider
[1:47:07] amending that one to put this
[1:47:10] or something in here adding an
[1:47:11] indicator really to to target
[1:47:14] that area because while I
[1:47:18] completely support the routine
[1:47:19] checkup indicator that's that's
[1:47:20] really important that that's
[1:47:22] for folks who were able to get
[1:47:22] to a routine checkup.
[1:47:23] It's certainly not for the
[1:47:26] folks who are cycling through
[1:47:29] our systems.
[1:47:33] I had a question about one of
[1:47:34] them.
[1:47:37] You know, we know that seniors
[1:47:37] is the fastest rowing
[1:47:38] population in our county and I
[1:47:41] recognize that under the focus
[1:47:44] area county demographics you
[1:47:45] have indicator population by
[1:47:48] age but that one seems less
[1:47:52] measurable or I mean it's very
[1:47:53] measurable but like what are we
[1:47:54] trying to impact with it?
[1:47:55] I think that maybe it's more
[1:47:57] like the vulnerability of our
[1:47:57] seniors or the needs of our
[1:48:00] seniors are being met.
[1:48:01] You know, with a lot of these
[1:48:02] others I can see how measuring
[1:48:05] housing it's added shows that
[1:48:05] we're doing something or
[1:48:07] measuring families living under
[1:48:08] the poverty level shows that
[1:48:09] we're doing something.
[1:48:10] But measuring population by age
[1:48:11] mean people are aging.
[1:48:12] We know that's happening.
[1:48:13] So what are we trying to do
[1:48:14] with the aging opulation?
[1:48:16] I think what you intend is to
[1:48:17] provide more supports for them.
[1:48:20] So I think that's something to
[1:48:20] consider.
[1:48:24] And lastly, kind of a question
[1:48:31] around just overall there's a
[1:48:32] lot f resiliency work being
[1:48:35] discussed as a county.
[1:48:36] There's a lot of work, you
[1:48:37] know, recognizing that natural
[1:48:40] disasters are more frequent and
[1:48:40] it's making our community more
[1:48:41] vulnerable.
[1:48:44] I don't know where or how in
[1:48:45] these buckets that's reflected
[1:48:47] in the focus areas but I'm
[1:48:50] wondering if you know, as you
[1:48:51] look to refine these things, if
[1:48:54] you sort of consider the
[1:48:55] impacts of the environment and
[1:48:59] climate change on the wellness,
[1:49:02] the health and wellness of our
[1:49:03] residents, I think that might
[1:49:04] be something to to factor in.
[1:49:07] So so those are my comments and
[1:49:08] don't know if you have any
[1:49:08] reflections on the question
[1:49:09] that I yeah.
[1:49:13] We have similar thoughts
[1:49:14] questions about areas that ay
[1:49:17] not currently be alive or
[1:49:18] visible in our in our current
[1:49:21] strategic plan that through
[1:49:22] engaging with you and engaging
[1:49:26] with the community MAY emerge
[1:49:26] as a particular area of focus
[1:49:29] that we need to draw and
[1:49:30] highlight and maybe there's
[1:49:31] something that's currently in
[1:49:34] the plan that is less important
[1:49:38] to kind of call out now.
[1:49:39] So we're going to be making
[1:49:41] those refinements starting here
[1:49:42] with you all this is the start
[1:49:45] of the process to try to figure
[1:49:46] out where we're headed in terms
[1:49:49] of updating the strategic plan
[1:49:50] So I think we'll have
[1:49:52] definitely a better idea and
[1:49:53] more information after this
[1:49:57] fall.
[1:49:57] Wonderful.
[1:50:00] Thank you for incorporating
[1:50:01] those sort f ubpopulations
[1:50:02] into your thinking as you
[1:50:05] proceed.
[1:50:05] And and I just really
[1:50:08] appreciate the efforts to use
[1:50:12] really just community health
[1:50:13] and community wellness as a
[1:50:16] driving factor in the strategic
[1:50:17] planning work.
[1:50:18] And so thank you for continuing
[1:50:19] to keep us up to date on this
[1:50:21] item.
[1:50:21] Thank you.
[1:50:25] Supervisor karnig, thank chair.
[1:50:25] Thank you staff.
[1:50:26] I appreciate the effort to
[1:50:29] reduce the number of total
[1:50:30] indicators that we're looking
[1:50:32] at and also really make sure
[1:50:32] that they're linked to policies
[1:50:36] that the county can implement,
[1:50:37] you know, dairy ways as we're
[1:50:40] looking at these indicators we
[1:50:44] should be inspired with
[1:50:44] policies and programs that'll
[1:50:45] help drive them in the right
[1:50:47] direction.
[1:50:48] And so to that extent we really
[1:50:49] want them to be as direct as
[1:50:51] possible.
[1:50:51] I definitely share some of the
[1:50:52] concerns raised by supervisor
[1:50:58] martinez around some of them to
[1:50:59] start with some that she
[1:51:02] mentioned absolute something
[1:51:03] related to homelessness and
[1:51:06] mental health.
[1:51:07] I mean in many ways that has
[1:51:10] been a relative success story
[1:51:11] in recent years.
[1:51:12] How are we going to measure if
[1:51:14] we're continue to be on track
[1:51:15] with that would it just be the
[1:51:18] population experiencing
[1:51:19] homelessness as measured by the
[1:51:23] point in time ount what we
[1:51:23] should I mean maybe we should
[1:51:26] be tracking shelter beds and
[1:51:27] temporary housing units as
[1:51:30] opposed or in addition to just
[1:51:34] over traditional housing units
[1:51:35] Again, because we're taking
[1:51:35] shelter beds and temporary
[1:51:36] housing units, we can all get
[1:51:38] together like oh jeez, we
[1:51:38] really haven't made any
[1:51:39] progress on this.
[1:51:40] Maybe we should make it easier
[1:51:42] to add temporary housing right
[1:51:42] in here.
[1:51:43] Several policy options to do
[1:51:49] that.
[1:51:52] So on like on population by age
[1:51:53] Yeah, we know the trends.
[1:51:57] So how are we going to measure
[1:51:58] our success and we probably
[1:52:01] don't have I mean other han
[1:52:01] creating more housing to create
[1:52:05] more opportunities for first
[1:52:05] time homebuyers or families who
[1:52:06] live in our community, we don't
[1:52:08] have all that much impact on
[1:52:12] the overall demographic trends.
[1:52:15] But one measure that occurs to
[1:52:17] me four or eight would be the
[1:52:20] percentage of seniors reporting
[1:52:23] willingness or social isolation
[1:52:24] something about the quality of
[1:52:28] life for ur seniors and of
[1:52:29] course that is going to have
[1:52:29] direct linkage to their health
[1:52:34] outcomes as well or dynamic
[1:52:37] economy families living below
[1:52:38] 200 percent of the poverty
[1:52:41] level.
[1:52:41] And I certainly understand that
[1:52:45] it's important to have this
[1:52:49] visibility into the people
[1:52:49] experiencing poverty in our
[1:52:52] communities at the same time
[1:52:53] this is sort of an endemic
[1:52:56] challenge to our two major
[1:52:57] industries that we have here
[1:52:59] tourism and agriculture and I
[1:53:00] provide a lot of high paying
[1:53:01] jobs.
[1:53:01] They provide a lot of low
[1:53:04] paying jobs and therefore we
[1:53:08] need a population to do those
[1:53:12] jobs and they're not having an
[1:53:12] easy time getting growing their
[1:53:16] wages.
[1:53:17] So this isn't just one of those
[1:53:17] measures where it's like ok, so
[1:53:18] what should we do about this?
[1:53:20] Should we be like trying to
[1:53:23] increase the local minimum wage
[1:53:24] or are we putting all these
[1:53:27] requirements on business or
[1:53:27] something else?
[1:53:28] I mean maybe if we just
[1:53:31] measured drop job growth by
[1:53:32] income level within the county
[1:53:35] we would have a better sense of
[1:53:36] where we were making positive
[1:53:37] gains as well and other things
[1:53:39] like whatever that is education
[1:53:43] and health care in addition to
[1:53:43] understanding, you know,
[1:53:50] whether the tourism and
[1:53:51] agricultural industries are
[1:53:55] sort of emaining flat or or
[1:54:03] not or growing in the last one
[1:54:03] is the strong start score
[1:54:06] thriving families?
[1:54:06] It's another one.
[1:54:07] It's a little bit squishy.
[1:54:08] I was looking into what the
[1:54:10] strong start score entails and
[1:54:14] it seems like it's a collection
[1:54:14] of things healthy birth weight,
[1:54:18] adequate prenatal care, higher
[1:54:18] parental education level,
[1:54:19] stable housing, access to
[1:54:22] health care sorry those last
[1:54:23] two stable housing and access
[1:54:26] to health care those a sort of
[1:54:26] like other indicators we
[1:54:27] already have in terms of
[1:54:29] overall number of housing units
[1:54:30] that we're adding or regular
[1:54:31] checkups.
[1:54:33] My insurance is like this is
[1:54:34] it's because it's an aggregate
[1:54:37] number that we probably all
[1:54:38] don't know how it's aggregate
[1:54:39] at the top of our head.
[1:54:41] It might therefore be harder to
[1:54:42] have a direct correlation to
[1:54:45] the things the county is doing
[1:54:45] to improve it.
[1:54:48] Maybe something along the lines
[1:54:52] of child care cost burden again
[1:54:52] we have just a very clear
[1:54:53] understanding of child are
[1:54:57] affordable in our community is
[1:54:58] that supporting people in
[1:55:00] raising healthy children?
[1:55:01] Those are my comments and a
[1:55:04] clarification.
[1:55:05] Are you looking I mean we sort
[1:55:08] of this is a brainstorming
[1:55:08] session.
[1:55:09] Are you are you looking at more
[1:55:11] like a motion on what you an
[1:55:12] today?
[1:55:13] We're just taking your feedback
[1:55:16] and thoughts to incorporate and
[1:55:16] think as we refine these and
[1:55:20] work towards engagement later
[1:55:20] on with the community.
[1:55:24] Thank thank you, supervisor
[1:55:30] cummings.
[1:55:31] Thanks for the presentation on
[1:55:32] this item.
[1:55:35] Ill try to get to the point
[1:55:39] with a number of the areas
[1:55:39] where I have a little I have
[1:55:40] some suggestions on a
[1:55:42] comprehensive health and
[1:55:42] safety.
[1:55:43] One of the things I think might
[1:55:46] be and I know we're trying to
[1:55:47] constrain this and not add too
[1:55:50] much but you know, recidivism I
[1:55:51] think is something that is
[1:55:54] measurable and the people
[1:55:55] really want to see it reduced
[1:55:55] and santa cruz counties are
[1:55:58] people who are going the system
[1:55:59] just ending up in a vicious
[1:56:02] cycle within the system or do
[1:56:02] we have programs in place that
[1:56:03] are actually supporting those
[1:56:06] people so that when there is a
[1:56:07] system they actually come out
[1:56:09] and move on to have a more
[1:56:09] sustainable life?
[1:56:10] I think that's something that a
[1:56:12] lot of folks want to see and I
[1:56:13] think that's something that's
[1:56:17] measurable attainable housing
[1:56:21] with a section I have a little
[1:56:21] bit of I guess my main concern
[1:56:24] is that historically or at
[1:56:25] least in the past a couple of
[1:56:28] the past housing cycles we have
[1:56:29] not been meeting are very low
[1:56:32] and low housing levels.
[1:56:36] And so for me what's the
[1:56:36] biggest concern is that we meet
[1:56:39] our market rate and we count
[1:56:39] towards, you know, increasing
[1:56:43] the number of units added and
[1:56:44] we move into our next cycle and
[1:56:44] we meet our market rate.
[1:56:47] We're not meeting a very low
[1:56:48] and low and so it'll seem like
[1:56:51] yes, we are building housing
[1:56:52] but then it's like housing for
[1:56:52] home and we know that the
[1:56:55] housing that we need to to
[1:56:56] exploit is for a lot of folks
[1:56:58] who are working ithin these
[1:56:59] lower sector industries in
[1:57:00] terms of the incomes that
[1:57:03] they're able to generate.
[1:57:03] So like are we building
[1:57:04] farmworker housing?
[1:57:05] We're building housing for the
[1:57:06] people who are in the tourist
[1:57:07] industry.
[1:57:07] And so I think t's really
[1:57:09] critical that that's kind
[1:57:10] broken apart.
[1:57:11] And so maybe if it's
[1:57:11] sustainable housing and we look
[1:57:21] at the number of units that are
[1:57:22] being built in those different
[1:57:23] income categories rather then
[1:57:23] lumping them all together,
[1:57:24] it'll give us a better sense of
[1:57:25] building the housing that's
[1:57:26] really going to be supporting
[1:57:26] county workers, our small
[1:57:27] businesses and the people who
[1:57:28] we know struggle the most to
[1:57:28] find housing in this community
[1:57:33] I think to supervisor martinez
[1:57:34] and konings point around
[1:57:34] environmentally I'm going to
[1:57:37] jump sorry a little bit but
[1:57:38] down to a sustainable
[1:57:40] environment something really
[1:57:42] needs to be added in there
[1:57:44] around environmental resiliency
[1:57:48] and as we've seen the impacts
[1:57:49] on fires and floods and also
[1:57:53] storm action, you know, how are
[1:57:54] we actually measuring how
[1:57:55] resilient we're going to be
[1:57:57] moving forward under a changing
[1:57:57] climate?
[1:57:58] And I know you know, we're
[1:58:00] working on our sea level rise
[1:58:01] adaptation plan and we have a
[1:58:04] number of things in the works
[1:58:05] that I think that there's an
[1:58:06] opportunity for us to
[1:58:08] inrporate that into sort of
[1:58:09] when we're looking at how we're
[1:58:11] making a more climate resilient
[1:58:12] community that we can see
[1:58:15] reflected in this reliable
[1:58:19] transportation.
[1:58:20] I think it would be nice to add
[1:58:23] something in there around just
[1:58:27] bike lanes and alternatives to
[1:58:28] to cars because as we're
[1:58:32] building out the rail trail as
[1:58:32] we're you now, building more
[1:58:35] like 60 lanes, it's something
[1:58:36] that we can track in terms of
[1:58:39] how we're providing more
[1:58:39] opportunities for people to get
[1:58:43] out of the cars and onto other
[1:58:43] forms of environmentally
[1:58:47] friendly transportation and so
[1:58:47] something around that would be
[1:58:50] i think an added benefit and
[1:58:51] then as it relates to dynamic
[1:58:54] economy, I'm not I'm not sure
[1:58:55] how to express this but I think
[1:58:58] something will be worthwhile.
[1:58:59] I mean I think we look at total
[1:59:02] employment but also tracking
[1:59:03] businesses over time who's
[1:59:06] coming into community leaving
[1:59:09] as things get more expensive we
[1:59:10] do you see that there's you
[1:59:11] know, small businesses are
[1:59:13] shutting down.
[1:59:14] When I look around in the city
[1:59:15] of santa cruz in my district
[1:59:17] there's so many vacant
[1:59:18] storefronts and so if we're
[1:59:20] able to track our maintaining
[1:59:21] small businesses and supporting
[1:59:22] small businesses is going to be
[1:59:25] really critical to ensuring
[1:59:28] that, you know, we're we're
[1:59:28] we're a business friendly
[1:59:29] community for small businesses
[1:59:32] and we're not just losing them
[1:59:33] left and right.
[1:59:36] So that concludes my comments
[1:59:37] for now and I'm happy to follow
[1:59:37] up with you all offline but
[1:59:40] just wanted to share those
[1:59:40] thoughts with you all today.
[1:59:41] Thank you.
[1:59:41] Thank you.
[1:59:42] Thank you.
[1:59:46] Supervisor thank you for this.
[1:59:47] You know, in future staff
[1:59:50] reports it would be good to
[1:59:51] know like I thought potentially
[1:59:54] we were voting on this today.
[1:59:55] I didn't realize this was a
[2:00:00] time for a lot of input though
[2:00:04] with that.
[2:00:05] The thing is these plans are
[2:00:08] tedious and the staff is so, so
[2:00:09] busy that I understand
[2:00:12] connecting these goals to what
[2:00:13] people are working on.
[2:00:13] Right.
[2:00:16] So that we can actually have a
[2:00:17] product at the end of the year
[2:00:20] to show what's guiding the work
[2:00:23] and it's a tremendous amount of
[2:00:24] work for not only staff but
[2:00:25] also for people in our
[2:00:30] apartments.
[2:00:34] So under comprehensive health
[2:00:34] and safety certainly what
[2:00:37] supervisor martinez said
[2:00:38] regarding mental health is very
[2:00:43] important to me.
[2:00:44] We have people I think more
[2:00:47] than 70 almost 75 people died
[2:00:51] last year on the streets the
[2:00:51] fentanyl epidemic and just
[2:00:55] exposure to the elements for
[2:00:59] our homeless, our own house
[2:01:00] population that are gravely
[2:01:03] disabled needs to be a priority
[2:01:04] for our county.
[2:01:07] We have the ability to help
[2:01:08] those people and we're not
[2:01:14] doing it unless you under
[2:01:18] attainable housing.
[2:01:23] I look forward to a report
[2:01:24] coming in front of this board
[2:01:27] regarding any projects that are
[2:01:31] out there, any property that we
[2:01:32] could convert to housing not
[2:01:33] only in the community but also
[2:01:37] as a county.
[2:01:38] You know, I as looking I had a
[2:01:42] report by the developers who
[2:01:43] were going to be working on the
[2:01:45] par three course I understand
[2:01:46] that's now fallen through.
[2:01:47] But there had been a big
[2:01:49] element there for not only
[2:01:53] seniors but for families that
[2:01:57] are low and moderate income and
[2:01:58] we we need o help these things
[2:01:59] get nderway more quickly.
[2:02:03] So under reliable
[2:02:04] transportation, this was a
[2:02:07] constituent request to ask
[2:02:07] about the pavement condition
[2:02:12] index in relation to
[2:02:15] walkability and bike lanes and
[2:02:16] I see that it says neighborhood
[2:02:19] walkability score but no other
[2:02:20] information there.
[2:02:23] and this was a resident who
[2:02:24] lives in seacliff who's a
[2:02:24] community leader.
[2:02:27] There's no way to easily get
[2:02:28] from seacliff over chapters
[2:02:28] village.
[2:02:30] It's just not safe.
[2:02:31] So she was hoping that somehow
[2:02:34] that could be woven into this
[2:02:40] plan county wide sustainable
[2:02:41] environment since we did have
[2:02:48] the battery the best facility
[2:02:52] have the fire I it's to me it's
[2:02:53] not just about reducing
[2:02:56] greenhouse emissions but it's
[2:02:56] more about energy safety at
[2:03:00] this point like how are we
[2:03:03] going to store energy in a way
[2:03:04] green e need green energy.
[2:03:07] We can produce it needs to be
[2:03:08] stored and transmitted very,
[2:03:08] very safely.
[2:03:12] So if that can be woven in I'd
[2:03:15] appreciate it and then under a
[2:03:16] dynamic economy thank you to
[2:03:18] supervisor cummings.
[2:03:22] This is one of y really
[2:03:23] something that 'm very
[2:03:23] interested in is bringing more
[2:03:26] money to our general fund to
[2:03:27] the ig.
[2:03:28] So to the extent that we could
[2:03:29] have a very comprehensive plan
[2:03:33] about how we can spur our
[2:03:34] economy and hold on to
[2:03:37] businesses, important
[2:03:41] businesses and increase those
[2:03:42] businesses not just in the
[2:03:45] retail way but but investments
[2:03:49] in companies that are tech
[2:03:50] companies or green tech
[2:03:50] companies or et cetera, et
[2:03:51] cetera.
[2:03:54] I think I'd like to see a nice
[2:03:56] plan about that woven in which
[2:04:00] I think are things that you
[2:04:01] probably already working on.
[2:04:01] But thank you.
[2:04:04] I appreciate you.
[2:04:09] I'll keep my comments brief.
[2:04:10] well, first of all, thank you
[2:04:12] to all the ceo staff for all
[2:04:13] the ard and diligent work on
[2:04:16] the strategic plan.
[2:04:17] You know, I really appreciate
[2:04:19] what's in the strategic plan,
[2:04:23] our vision I want to reiterate
[2:04:24] a vision that santa cruz county
[2:04:25] is a healthy, safe and more
[2:04:27] affordable community that is
[2:04:28] culturally diverse and
[2:04:31] economically inclusive and
[2:04:31] environmentally vibrant.
[2:04:35] You know, I feel that
[2:04:36] appreciate that all the work
[2:04:37] but I feel the brunt of it is
[2:04:39] how do we get there right out
[2:04:40] the steps that we take to get
[2:04:43] there, the direction that we
[2:04:44] take to get there, you now,
[2:04:46] things like that are solid,
[2:04:47] right?
[2:04:49] Like everybody needs a decision
[2:04:50] requires billions of equity.
[2:04:53] You know, we talk about
[2:04:54] affordable ommunities yet you
[2:04:57] know, we don't have things like
[2:04:58] payment assistance the way the
[2:05:01] city wants it does.
[2:05:02] So those are the things that
[2:05:03] I'm going to be looking at
[2:05:04] later on like the steps to
[2:05:05] actually get to these goals
[2:05:08] that we have.
[2:05:09] But they are that pretty much
[2:05:10] concludes my comments if
[2:05:13] anybody else does have any
[2:05:13] comments, I'll take it back to
[2:05:14] the oard to see if we can
[2:05:16] entertain a motion to accept
[2:05:20] the presentation.
[2:05:24] I'll move to accept the
[2:05:25] presentation.
[2:05:25] You need an action, correct?
[2:05:27] Yeah, just approve the
[2:05:28] recommended actions.
[2:05:31] Ok, I'll make a motion to
[2:05:32] approve the recommended actions
[2:05:36] so I can have a motion to
[2:05:36] separate the second from
[2:05:37] supervisor koeneke.
[2:05:39] It would take a roll call vote
[2:05:39] absolutely.
[2:05:40] Supervisor coning by martinez
[2:05:43] I'm coming to sirpa.
[2:05:45] I interpret it as a motion that
[2:05:55] says unanimously well it's my
[2:06:00] next move to the next agenda
[2:06:00] item number ten consider the
[2:06:03] notice of intent to establish
[2:06:04] the county fire department
[2:06:04] advisory group and take all
[2:06:07] related actions.
[2:06:08] I'll turn it over to michael
[2:06:09] beeton, director of general
[2:06:12] services department and chief
[2:06:12] jamie wilson of california for
[2:06:13] the presentation.
[2:06:16] Thank thank you.
[2:06:20] Bought eternities I'd like to
[2:06:20] be director of general services
[2:06:21] and county fire contract
[2:06:23] administrator.
[2:06:24] With me today is the cal fire
[2:06:28] san mateo san mateo santa cruz
[2:06:28] unit chief and by agreement
[2:06:31] your county fire chief chief
[2:06:32] wilson today will be giving a
[2:06:35] presentation about the creation
[2:06:35] of the county of santa cruz
[2:06:38] county fire department or
[2:06:39] advisory group.
[2:06:42] I think historical context the
[2:06:43] county fire protection for
[2:06:43] santa cruz county has primarily
[2:06:47] been provided through a
[2:06:47] cooperative agreement with the
[2:06:50] state of california cal fire
[2:06:51] since 1948.
[2:06:51] The agreement was originally
[2:06:55] signed by the county of santa
[2:06:56] cruz in 1945 or the creation of
[2:06:59] the lakeway I think one of the
[2:07:00] longest standing cooperative
[2:07:00] agreements with the state of
[2:07:02] california for fire protection
[2:07:03] to help advise the county fire
[2:07:05] department.
[2:07:06] The county used to have a board
[2:07:09] appointed commission which was
[2:07:10] dissolved last calendar year at
[2:07:12] the recommendation of those
[2:07:13] commission members with the
[2:07:14] recommendation to create a
[2:07:17] departmental advisory group
[2:07:18] which is being what what is
[2:07:21] being recommended today for
[2:07:21] your board.
[2:07:22] With that I'll toss it over to
[2:07:25] chief wilson to walk us through
[2:07:25] some of the operational
[2:07:26] procedures related to the
[2:07:27] governance of the departmental
[2:07:32] advisory group.
[2:07:33] Good morning CHAIRMAN Board.
[2:07:34] Thank you, MR. Beeton.
[2:07:36] So I'm going to run through
[2:07:37] partially part of the
[2:07:37] presentation and then turn it
[2:07:40] over to michael and let's see
[2:07:43] if that's working.
[2:07:44] Ok, so the purpose of the fire
[2:07:46] department advisory group is to
[2:07:47] provide insight to the gst on
[2:07:51] the matters related to county
[2:07:51] fire.
[2:07:52] We have a very diverse
[2:07:55] community in our county and
[2:07:55] making sure that those people
[2:07:58] and constituents in csa forty
[2:07:59] are protected and promoted will
[2:08:00] be the primary responsibility
[2:08:02] of this group.
[2:08:06] The term of this group will be
[2:08:06] once the board approves a
[2:08:07] written notice that it's been
[2:08:11] adopted and then an estimated
[2:08:11] termination date of DECEMBER
[2:08:14] 31st twenty twenty six and the
[2:08:18] director of general services
[2:08:18] will have the ability to extend
[2:08:21] that term with notice to the
[2:08:25] board governance and operations
[2:08:29] this this group excuse me would
[2:08:32] not operate under the brown act
[2:08:33] so it would not be under the
[2:08:36] rules of the brown act it would
[2:08:37] operate ithout formal bylaws
[2:08:41] but the director of general
[2:08:41] services would oversee and
[2:08:44] determine terminate determine
[2:08:45] necessary procedures and
[2:08:48] conduct the conduct of the
[2:08:48] business of this group.
[2:08:49] And there are some county code
[2:08:53] section noted there but I will
[2:08:54] not read those out for you
[2:08:56] there in the presentation
[2:08:57] membership the membership of
[2:09:00] this board would either be a
[2:09:01] resident from santa cruz county
[2:09:04] or somebody who works within
[2:09:04] santa cruz ounty.
[2:09:05] At no point in time would there
[2:09:07] be less than five appointed
[2:09:11] individuals to this group.
[2:09:12] It is the initial invitation
[2:09:15] for this group will be those
[2:09:16] former members of the fire
[2:09:17] department advisory commission
[2:09:20] and that will allow for there
[2:09:21] to be some continuity and
[2:09:22] understanding of what county
[2:09:23] fire is and how it works the
[2:09:24] gst and then from there it
[2:09:27] would move forward if you if
[2:09:28] someone was interested in
[2:09:32] requesting membership they
[2:09:32] would do so through the
[2:09:34] director of general services
[2:09:35] either an electronic or written
[2:09:36] format at which they would be
[2:09:38] evaluated to see if they have
[2:09:42] the the understanding of the
[2:09:43] topic being discussed by the
[2:09:49] group.
[2:09:50] So the terms of the membership
[2:09:53] there are to serve the term of
[2:09:53] the group.
[2:09:56] However, the idea behind the
[2:09:57] group is that it will be
[2:09:58] adjusted as needed.
[2:10:00] So some examples I have of
[2:10:01] their topic is finance and
[2:10:05] budget.
[2:10:05] It would probably be someone
[2:10:06] who has a background in finance
[2:10:09] and budget within a county so
[2:10:10] we can do forecasting and have
[2:10:12] good transparency there.
[2:10:13] we completed the master plan
[2:10:14] which was approved by the board
[2:10:15] last year.
[2:10:16] The next step is the strategic
[2:10:17] plan.
[2:10:17] So moving forward with the
[2:10:20] strategic plan, people that
[2:10:21] have a background in that have
[2:10:24] seen what strategic planning
[2:10:25] and how it is implemented so
[2:10:28] that might be a retired fire
[2:10:29] chief that was within the
[2:10:29] county or one of your districts
[2:10:32] or somebody with some
[2:10:32] historical knowledge and then
[2:10:33] there is the potential for
[2:10:36] reorganization within county
[2:10:36] fire.
[2:10:37] So would also be bringing in
[2:10:39] people that have participated
[2:10:40] in a reorganization within the
[2:10:43] county that maybe is under the
[2:10:46] lefko recommendation so that
[2:10:47] county is getting a good
[2:10:51] understand of what needs to be
[2:10:51] done.
[2:10:55] Subcommittees there will be the
[2:10:56] ability for subcommittees.
[2:10:59] This will be at the director of
[2:11:00] gsd termination of a
[2:11:02] subcommittee is needed to be
[2:11:09] formed meetings they will be
[2:11:10] held as needed virtually or in
[2:11:14] locations across the county as
[2:11:15] previously stated we have a
[2:11:16] very diverse county.
[2:11:17] It's geographically small but
[2:11:20] also geographically large.
[2:11:21] So if you're up in boulder
[2:11:22] creek and you need to go to a
[2:11:25] meeting in watsonville as some
[2:11:26] of us know that is a trek.
[2:11:29] So virtual meetings will be an
[2:11:30] option o that we are affording
[2:11:32] that opportunity for everybody
[2:11:33] who's on the group to
[2:11:33] participate.
[2:11:36] There will be no quorum
[2:11:37] requirement and the director of
[2:11:41] justice will facilitate those
[2:11:44] meetings.
[2:11:45] The notice of the meetings will
[2:11:48] be posted on the county fire
[2:11:48] department web page.
[2:11:49] Seventy two hours prior to the
[2:11:52] meeting and an email to all of
[2:11:53] those that are to attend would
[2:11:56] be sent out with the
[2:11:56] understanding that they would
[2:12:00] respond within 48 hours they
[2:12:00] were going to be attending to
[2:12:01] make sure that we have a viable
[2:12:03] meeting wasting individuals
[2:12:07] times the notices of meetings.
[2:12:10] The second part here is
[2:12:11] inviting the public.
[2:12:12] These meetings necessarily
[2:12:15] won't always be public facing
[2:12:16] meetings but there will be the
[2:12:19] opportunity for public to have
[2:12:19] input.
[2:12:20] We want to make sure that we're
[2:12:22] being transparent with the
[2:12:23] decisions being made with the
[2:12:24] gst and county fire to the
[2:12:26] constituents of csa forty eight
[2:12:30] and they will be hosted agendas
[2:12:31] meetings would all be posted on
[2:12:34] the website similar to what we
[2:12:35] did prior with the advisory
[2:12:38] committee.
[2:12:39] Want to turn it over to
[2:12:41] director b?
[2:12:42] Thank you chief.
[2:12:43] So kind of what chief
[2:12:46] identified is we do plan on
[2:12:47] posting the agendas onto the
[2:12:49] county fire web page.
[2:12:50] We're also potentially going to
[2:12:50] explore the county center's new
[2:12:53] agenda management's which has a
[2:12:54] very good platform for the
[2:12:57] public to actually see the
[2:12:57] different agenda items and
[2:13:00] topics minutes will be
[2:13:01] maintained and available and
[2:13:01] posted on the county fire web
[2:13:05] page for any discussion points
[2:13:07] that MAY arise from those
[2:13:11] meetings is anticipated that
[2:13:12] will have the fire department
[2:13:15] advisory group submit a annual
[2:13:19] report detailing the roles, the
[2:13:20] objectives, some of the
[2:13:20] accomplishments that we've had
[2:13:23] the departmental advisor group
[2:13:24] accomplished over the past year
[2:13:27] that this report will be
[2:13:28] submitted to the U.S. Director
[2:13:30] on an annual basis including
[2:13:31] attendance.
[2:13:31] We do anticipate setting the
[2:13:34] attendance reports to the
[2:13:35] county board of supervisors to
[2:13:36] show the frequency and maybe
[2:13:39] some of the objectives that
[2:13:39] have been accomplished by the
[2:13:46] departmental advisory group a
[2:13:54] one to thank you for the
[2:13:57] department advisory.
[2:13:58] All records will be maintained
[2:14:01] as public records and available
[2:14:02] to the public again we do
[2:14:02] anticipate utilizing the county
[2:14:06] power web page for a lot of the
[2:14:06] repository if there are any
[2:14:09] paper copies we'll be
[2:14:10] maintained within general
[2:14:10] services and available to any
[2:14:13] and all to actually see and we
[2:14:13] do strongly encourage public
[2:14:17] participation in any topic that
[2:14:17] we do have.
[2:14:18] We especially with a lot of the
[2:14:21] endeavors identified in the
[2:14:22] county fire master plan and
[2:14:24] some of the other initiatives
[2:14:24] that we are going to be
[2:14:25] exploring.
[2:14:26] Public participation is going
[2:14:28] to be very important to help
[2:14:33] guide as part of he kind of
[2:14:33] code the fire department
[2:14:36] advisory group would be
[2:14:36] eligible for stipends to
[2:14:39] compensate them for their work
[2:14:39] and helping out the county fire
[2:14:40] department to achieve their
[2:14:44] goals with that that kind of
[2:14:45] covers the operating procedures
[2:14:48] related to the fire department
[2:14:48] advisory group and both chief
[2:14:49] wilson and I are available for
[2:14:50] any questions or comments the
[2:14:54] board MAY have to get out to
[2:14:58] the public first to see if
[2:14:59] anyone in the public would like
[2:15:06] to comment.
[2:15:06] Thank you.
[2:15:09] Thank steinbrenner.
[2:15:13] I live in csa forty eight and I
[2:15:17] have attended many of the
[2:15:17] former fda meetings.
[2:15:20] I have a lot of concerns about
[2:15:22] it as a ember of the public I
[2:15:25] don't see how it can be
[2:15:26] transparent for a group to meet
[2:15:32] as needed and expect any
[2:15:32] members of the public to to
[2:15:36] know to go to the website and
[2:15:37] look where the meeting is going
[2:15:40] to be held whether or not the
[2:15:41] public is even going to be
[2:15:44] allowed and if we are allowed
[2:15:48] it says we would only be able
[2:15:49] to speak at the end of the
[2:15:52] meeting.
[2:15:52] This isn't right.
[2:15:56] I also don't think that people
[2:15:59] should be it who do not live in
[2:16:03] csa 48.
[2:16:03] That has been a problem.
[2:16:04] It was a problem with the fact
[2:16:07] there was a member on there
[2:16:08] that was not served by county
[2:16:19] fire department and it was a
[2:16:19] problem.
[2:16:20] The county changed the rules
[2:16:20] then and I guess that's what's
[2:16:21] happening here but I don't
[2:16:21] think it's right.
[2:16:22] I think the application process
[2:16:24] is very vague to send an
[2:16:26] electronic letter or written to
[2:16:27] MR. Beeton but there's no
[2:16:28] indication how to do that or
[2:16:30] where an application form would
[2:16:31] be.
[2:16:34] What sort of detail would be
[2:16:35] used as a criteria to get on
[2:16:42] this this group and that it's
[2:16:43] not subject to the brown act
[2:16:46] really concerns me a lot.
[2:16:50] This is not with no formal
[2:16:50] bylaws.
[2:16:51] This is not a step to
[2:16:54] transparency and
[2:16:54] accountability.
[2:16:55] I think it's closing the public
[2:17:00] out.
[2:17:04] I do appreciate afkos endeavor
[2:17:05] behind this to try to get an
[2:17:08] elected board of directors to
[2:17:09] serve on county fire instead of
[2:17:09] you.
[2:17:12] Not that that you are not good
[2:17:16] leaders but that's that's the
[2:17:19] driving force behind this and I
[2:17:20] think that what needs to happen
[2:17:24] is proposition 170 money needs
[2:17:25] to be directed to fund county
[2:17:28] fire and there needs to be an
[2:17:29] after action eport with the
[2:17:31] volunteers from the fire.
[2:17:32] It's never been done and is
[2:17:32] sorely needed.
[2:17:41] Thank thank you for sharing
[2:17:41] your hair.
[2:17:45] I was just wondering is there a
[2:17:46] formal way that the public
[2:17:49] could sign up for and beyond
[2:17:53] email list for when the
[2:17:54] meetings are held and maybe
[2:17:57] just the minutes even after the
[2:17:58] meetings that sort of thing
[2:18:00] like they do with a was mini
[2:18:01] city board meetings in this
[2:18:04] meeting and so forth.
[2:18:08] Thank you.
[2:18:12] Anyone online?
[2:18:12] Yes, ure.
[2:18:17] Well and use your to your
[2:18:27] microphones now available I
[2:18:30] would like everyone to of this
[2:18:34] time bremner's could teach
[2:18:41] jeffersonians inc. In to a
[2:18:45] future presentation on this
[2:18:46] topic and them via fire
[2:18:50] advisory board and it used to
[2:18:53] be one party warm was
[2:19:01] supervisor she would have could
[2:19:05] have some and called for future
[2:19:09] meetings or incorporate it
[2:19:13] anyway I'm thinking everything
[2:19:16] that that case made sense and
[2:19:20] makes what you're proposing
[2:19:25] antidemocratic and exclusionary
[2:19:28] to the public any which is
[2:19:32] that's advisory by whom we've
[2:19:36] heard about the lithium battery
[2:19:41] fires and they happen with a
[2:19:44] buycks electric vehicle called
[2:19:48] cell towers smart meters.
[2:19:52] Any advisory group needs to
[2:19:53] addressing and calling for a
[2:19:59] halt to these fire prone
[2:20:04] devices also I want to root for
[2:20:07] people to feather river
[2:20:11] watershed alliance dot org
[2:20:12] article here called new wave of
[2:20:16] wild forest destruction in name
[2:20:19] of thinning and of climate
[2:20:23] solution biomass coming to your
[2:20:27] area we're told and here over
[2:20:28] and over again about thinning
[2:20:31] and clearing brush.
[2:20:36] Tim, your microphone is now
[2:20:36] available.
[2:20:39] Thank you so much again.
[2:20:42] Yeah, becky's comments are
[2:20:43] incredible as she's a whole lot
[2:20:46] smarter than I am.
[2:20:47] There's no doubt about that
[2:20:47] one.
[2:20:50] And you know the thing is here
[2:20:54] this whole issue of fire this
[2:20:55] is probably the most important
[2:20:57] topic for santa cruz county
[2:20:58] going nto this summer and for
[2:21:01] the next our years with the
[2:21:02] trump administration and this
[2:21:06] guy remember he was out there
[2:21:09] holding up a rake during his
[2:21:09] last term.
[2:21:11] Ok, so we don't want to be
[2:21:14] subjected to any of that and we
[2:21:14] certainly don't want
[2:21:17] homelessness to be aggravated.
[2:21:21] We all know what happened down
[2:21:22] there in los angeles so that
[2:21:25] that also puts ressure on our
[2:21:26] county.
[2:21:28] So hearing becky's comments
[2:21:29] here, I am quite concerned
[2:21:33] about who is going to be behind
[2:21:37] the wheel here and it should be
[2:21:38] a situation like in in south
[2:21:41] tahoe in a tidal basin where we
[2:21:41] have people that aren't from
[2:21:44] our community and they're the
[2:21:45] ones calling the shots and
[2:21:47] they're destroying the place.
[2:21:48] So you know, these comments
[2:21:51] here from becky are real.
[2:21:53] It's a big deal and I think we
[2:21:56] all need to get in front of
[2:21:56] this.
[2:21:57] You know, with the summer
[2:22:00] coming there's not a lot of
[2:22:00] time and you look on the top
[2:22:03] here probably larger buffer
[2:22:04] ought to be cleared out and
[2:22:07] maybe more wineries put in to
[2:22:07] create a buffer.
[2:22:10] So this way fire doesn't cross
[2:22:11] over the top and burn down the
[2:22:12] whole mountain into santa cruz.
[2:22:15] So there's a lot of things to
[2:22:18] talk about and I am 100 percent
[2:22:19] supportive of becky's comments
[2:22:22] on this matter anyways, thank
[2:22:23] you so much.
[2:22:24] You take it easy and let's hope
[2:22:26] that it doesn't turn into a
[2:22:29] situation where say supervisor
[2:22:30] cummings and I are both sharing
[2:22:33] a tent along the san leandro
[2:22:34] river down there after a fire
[2:22:37] that would be highly bogus.
[2:22:38] I'm sure you folks have a great
[2:22:41] day and you have no further
[2:22:45] speakers with that I'll bring
[2:22:46] back to the board for our
[2:22:46] comments and questions.
[2:22:48] I'll begin to the media speak
[2:22:52] with supervisor coming in and
[2:22:53] we can just stop and see if you
[2:22:56] can comment on some of the
[2:22:57] issues that were raised by the
[2:22:57] public.
[2:23:00] yeah, absolutely.
[2:23:00] Thank you, supervisor to
[2:23:01] respond to some of the comments
[2:23:06] that were just identified by
[2:23:07] the way, we have a map of the
[2:23:10] district.
[2:23:11] One of the things that I'm
[2:23:12] interested in the questions
[2:23:14] that were raised by the public
[2:23:15] was the sort of the
[2:23:18] representation of the area a
[2:23:19] region so that every region is
[2:23:21] represented and is able to
[2:23:22] advocate for that region.
[2:23:25] Yeah, we actually don't have a
[2:23:26] map with us right now identify
[2:23:27] as county fire but we can
[2:23:29] absolutely sure that I know
[2:23:30] it's available on the county
[2:23:31] fire web page apologies we
[2:23:34] don't have it right now unless
[2:23:34] we can get it set up right
[2:23:35] here.
[2:23:35] But to address some of the
[2:23:39] questions we're just identified
[2:23:40] Absolutely.
[2:23:40] If there is somebody from the
[2:23:41] public that would like to get
[2:23:44] on a mailing list or added to
[2:23:45] every single meeting that we do
[2:23:47] have absolutely include them
[2:23:48] into that distribution list
[2:23:52] completely across the board.
[2:23:52] The question related to the
[2:23:56] brown act so the brannock
[2:23:56] question has been popped up the
[2:23:58] previous fire department
[2:23:59] advisory commission identified
[2:24:02] that the brown act for what
[2:24:03] they are doing since they were
[2:24:04] not a decision making ody
[2:24:06] really hindered their ability
[2:24:07] to actually have open dialog
[2:24:10] and discussion help educate
[2:24:11] regarding different topics
[2:24:14] related to county fire.
[2:24:15] So the recommendation that we
[2:24:18] do have today for your board is
[2:24:19] that this body not be a brown
[2:24:21] act governing body large in
[2:24:22] part that this is not a
[2:24:23] decision making body.
[2:24:25] This is a really, truly
[2:24:26] advisory body that's going to
[2:24:30] be helping chief wilson and I
[2:24:33] come to this oard here to make
[2:24:33] recommendations.
[2:24:34] So from the perspective of
[2:24:37] being an advisory capacity and
[2:24:38] not a decision making body is
[2:24:39] the reason it's being
[2:24:41] recommended for a non brown act
[2:24:42] component.
[2:24:46] So I do see a map that's been
[2:24:46] identified.
[2:24:47] I'll check it out and on the
[2:24:49] ground to shoot another
[2:24:49] advantage for advisory
[2:24:52] committee is they can meet
[2:24:53] virtually which is a big
[2:24:54] advantage in the brown ag
[2:24:57] committee cannot meet virtually
[2:25:00] and these are folks who have
[2:25:01] often have other commitments
[2:25:04] and they can, you know, log on
[2:25:05] to zoom it so it's easier to
[2:25:08] meet as opposed to have
[2:25:08] everybody come together and you
[2:25:11] have trouble meeting a quorum.
[2:25:12] There have been attempts in the
[2:25:15] legislature to exempt
[2:25:16] committees from the project but
[2:25:19] they have not been successful.
[2:25:20] So anyway, that's another one
[2:25:22] of the other big advantages is
[2:25:23] the ability made virtually
[2:25:24] which many of our commissioners
[2:25:26] by the way have requested can
[2:25:27] you know can we meet virtually
[2:25:28] as opposed to everybody get in
[2:25:30] the car and drive down?
[2:25:31] I think this one has a bigger
[2:25:34] distance as well saratoga to
[2:25:37] guerrilleros with the traffic.
[2:25:38] Do you have any further
[2:25:46] questions the supervisor you
[2:25:46] ask what you ask for the map.
[2:25:49] So I'm happy to have the
[2:25:50] gallons but you interjected so
[2:25:53] my my well some of the comments
[2:25:54] that were raised by he public
[2:25:57] was having folks that live in
[2:25:57] the district in that can, you
[2:26:00] know, advocate for their
[2:26:01] whether it's region or fire
[2:26:04] department area.
[2:26:05] I didn't have a voice right.
[2:26:06] I think that that's one of the
[2:26:08] important that I'd like to see
[2:26:09] and what was raised in some the
[2:26:11] public comment and just speak
[2:26:15] to becky's question about
[2:26:16] meeting notices historically
[2:26:19] what we've done is we have an
[2:26:19] email group that when we would
[2:26:23] do the fdic minutes or agendas
[2:26:23] that I would also include that
[2:26:27] group so anybody that wanted to
[2:26:27] request to be added to that
[2:26:30] group so they have notification
[2:26:31] the meetings occurring should
[2:26:31] not be on its normal date or
[2:26:33] outside the normal cadence.
[2:26:34] So we would continue doing that
[2:26:38] process and in the question was
[2:26:38] talked about the application
[2:26:39] process, we would put a
[2:26:42] formalized application link on
[2:26:42] the web page so that
[2:26:45] individuals can complete an
[2:26:49] application and it's not
[2:26:50] uniform as if that answers your
[2:26:57] question, I guess the only
[2:26:58] other thing I do know the
[2:27:01] concerns that are being brought
[2:27:02] up by members of the public and
[2:27:04] I was very concerned with
[2:27:05] moving away from the
[2:27:05] commissions and moving towards
[2:27:08] advisory boards.
[2:27:09] I do think that one of the
[2:27:10] things that you all have shown
[2:27:13] is you know, a level of
[2:27:16] transparency and I think it MAY
[2:27:16] be important for us to when the
[2:27:19] when the roup is selected that
[2:27:23] whether it's a memo to us I
[2:27:24] don't think it's something that
[2:27:25] needs to come to the board but
[2:27:27] we at least know who is on that
[2:27:28] advisory body and so people are
[2:27:31] curious about who's actually
[2:27:32] speaking to all we can have
[2:27:33] confidence to say these are the
[2:27:36] people who serve on that board
[2:27:36] in providing their expertize
[2:27:38] and advice.
[2:27:42] I think that in addition to the
[2:27:43] kind of the attendance just
[2:27:44] having a whether it's an annual
[2:27:47] report that comes during the
[2:27:47] budget or that's my annual
[2:27:50] during the budget and the
[2:27:51] mid-year budget review we et
[2:27:54] an update on what the group's
[2:27:55] doing, how it's been going
[2:27:58] because you know, there is some
[2:27:59] concern from folks around the
[2:28:02] reduction of transparency and I
[2:28:03] think as we embark on this new
[2:28:06] way of writing, you know,
[2:28:07] allowing for committee members
[2:28:10] to that advice to our
[2:28:10] department heads, it is really
[2:28:13] important we're understanding
[2:28:14] how this process is moving and
[2:28:17] the level of transparency that
[2:28:18] people can find some comfort
[2:28:19] around us moving in this
[2:28:21] direction.
[2:28:22] So I'll support what's coming
[2:28:25] before us today.
[2:28:26] But I'm going to be wanting to
[2:28:27] get some feedback on how this
[2:28:30] is going and to ensure that
[2:28:30] we're still going to have
[2:28:33] maintained we're going to be
[2:28:34] maintaining transparency around
[2:28:34] these types of meetings and
[2:28:35] discussions.
[2:28:40] Thank thank you, supervisor.
[2:28:41] Thank you.
[2:28:44] Thanks for the report.
[2:28:45] I'm a little uncomfortable with
[2:28:48] the meeting schedule with
[2:28:49] meeting on an ad needed basis.
[2:28:52] I feel like there should be a
[2:28:53] regular cadence and I think
[2:28:55] some of the people I entioned
[2:28:56] are out but at east quarterly
[2:29:00] I'm I think I think it's
[2:29:00] important for the different
[2:29:04] jurisdictions that help to help
[2:29:08] public safety in fire, et
[2:29:08] cetera.
[2:29:09] I think there need to be
[2:29:12] regular reports that come in
[2:29:13] front of this advisory group
[2:29:16] from cal fire from you know,
[2:29:19] all the different agencies.
[2:29:20] And also I I do believe this
[2:29:24] group needs to have a finger on
[2:29:25] the pulse of our county
[2:29:27] communication system.
[2:29:28] I understand we're hoping to
[2:29:31] put a new communications system
[2:29:32] I just feel like this there
[2:29:33] needs to be regular meetings.
[2:29:36] So if that could be changed I
[2:29:38] would feel more comfortable and
[2:29:39] I like the idea of it being
[2:29:42] virtually I think actually
[2:29:43] you'll get more participation
[2:29:44] and a lot of community
[2:29:47] participation as well people
[2:29:47] who could sign into the
[2:29:48] meeting.
[2:29:49] So thank you.
[2:29:53] Thanks for bringing on board
[2:29:57] supervisor martinez.
[2:29:58] Thank you, chief and director
[2:30:00] beeton for the presentation.
[2:30:02] I'd like to start off by just
[2:30:05] expressing thanks to the former
[2:30:05] members of the fire department
[2:30:08] advisory commission for their
[2:30:09] services and their insights.
[2:30:12] Did I hear you correctly they
[2:30:13] recommended this action in this
[2:30:16] change and I guess I mean I'm
[2:30:20] glad that we are able to
[2:30:21] benefit from their expertize as
[2:30:23] we transition to this new model
[2:30:27] and you know, even before you
[2:30:28] fire there was a lot of
[2:30:32] interest in the oversight of
[2:30:32] fire service who delivers fire
[2:30:36] service through our county and
[2:30:37] particularly throughout the
[2:30:40] fifth district and I understand
[2:30:40] that you're exploring other
[2:30:44] changes to that structure
[2:30:44] through lefko.
[2:30:48] How often do you imagine
[2:30:51] reporting to the board on your
[2:30:52] exploration around potentially
[2:30:53] transitioning the county fire
[2:30:56] to an independent district?
[2:30:57] And also how could community
[2:31:00] members have input into that
[2:31:03] process?
[2:31:04] It's what could possibly
[2:31:05] address the question real quick
[2:31:08] so a lot of the meetings that
[2:31:09] are happening related to the
[2:31:10] potential lefko study of
[2:31:11] looking and exploring of
[2:31:12] converting county fire into an
[2:31:12] independent fire district are
[2:31:15] being through lefko.
[2:31:16] So lafta is a public body that
[2:31:19] does public meetings.
[2:31:19] I do agree.
[2:31:23] I know that we are working on
[2:31:23] the path here to do a
[2:31:24] feasibility study.
[2:31:26] We will obviously work the
[2:31:27] ceo's office to bring items to
[2:31:30] the board as far as updates as
[2:31:31] that progress goes on an as
[2:31:38] needed basis and I guess what I
[2:31:41] would just hope is that there's
[2:31:42] plenty of opportunity for input
[2:31:46] and for discussion for
[2:31:49] residents and the public as it
[2:31:50] relates to those changes and
[2:31:52] that again will continue to get
[2:31:53] those updates.
[2:31:57] So yeah, thank you so much for
[2:31:58] bringing us this presentation
[2:31:59] and good luck with the new
[2:32:02] structure if this is today.
[2:32:02] Thank you.
[2:32:03] Thank you.
[2:32:05] Supervisor konik.
[2:32:05] Thank you chair yeah.
[2:32:06] I mean obviously I have no
[2:32:09] problem with the proposal
[2:32:09] before us today.
[2:32:12] It was as as has been mentioned
[2:32:13] the recommendation of the
[2:32:14] former department advisory
[2:32:17] committee themselves and this
[2:32:17] is their proposal actually for
[2:32:21] how they could do their work
[2:32:21] better.
[2:32:22] I'm glad to hear that they'll
[2:32:24] be I'll be offered memberships
[2:32:28] first because we had all as
[2:32:29] supervisors appointed those
[2:32:32] individuals because of their
[2:32:32] particular knowledge and
[2:32:36] expertize it really is kind of
[2:32:39] a couple of of larger questions
[2:32:40] here.
[2:32:40] I mean obviously what we're
[2:32:43] hearing from the public as far
[2:32:44] as some concern is I think not
[2:32:46] really necessarily so much to
[2:32:51] this particular small change
[2:32:52] but but really related to the
[2:32:55] larger picture of fire in our
[2:32:59] community and obviously just as
[2:32:59] an increasing risk the
[2:33:03] reflection we've seen on
[2:33:03] insurance rates, it's just I
[2:33:07] think it's an issue that's on
[2:33:08] everyone's mind more and more
[2:33:08] and obviously ever since the
[2:33:11] fires to first of all to the to
[2:33:15] the question of creating an
[2:33:15] independent special district,
[2:33:19] obviously as I mentioned the is
[2:33:19] kind of leading that
[2:33:22] investigation of course is a
[2:33:23] public agency as well.
[2:33:26] We have public meetings
[2:33:26] generally speaking we're
[2:33:29] talking about like a year long
[2:33:30] process a year and a half, two
[2:33:31] years.
[2:33:34] What what should the public
[2:33:35] keep in mind as far as how long
[2:33:35] this investigation is going on
[2:33:38] to to potential shift and how
[2:33:41] they can be involved?
[2:33:45] So currently the lefko process
[2:33:46] to for the feasibility tudy
[2:33:49] looks to be about 12 to 18
[2:33:53] months and that would tell us
[2:33:54] where we're going to go at ur
[2:33:57] last meeting it was about a two
[2:33:58] to three year to possibly four
[2:34:01] year full implementation from
[2:34:04] start to finish.
[2:34:05] So just a year to a year and a
[2:34:06] half for the feasibility study
[2:34:09] and if we ecide f I feel go
[2:34:09] and I assume there'd be
[2:34:12] probably some consideration by
[2:34:13] this board as well decide to
[2:34:16] move forward, that'd be another
[2:34:17] year and a half to to two and a
[2:34:18] half years to actually
[2:34:19] implement.
[2:34:19] Yeah.
[2:34:20] For four years is the right
[2:34:23] longest hopefully if it was
[2:34:23] decided shorter.
[2:34:27] Yeah yes.
[2:34:27] Ok great.
[2:34:31] And then of course the other
[2:34:33] kind of core work that the fire
[2:34:34] department advisory commission
[2:34:38] has done and that the advisory
[2:34:42] group would do is actually in
[2:34:43] consultation on the contract
[2:34:46] that we have with cal fire
[2:34:46] which I nderstand you said
[2:34:47] 1948 it's been around since
[2:34:50] 1948.
[2:34:50] That's the al-bandar contract
[2:34:51] that right.
[2:34:54] So obviously kind of showing
[2:34:54] its age.
[2:34:58] I think that and I know there's
[2:35:01] discussions on renegotiating
[2:35:02] that contract so it orks
[2:35:05] better for all parties.
[2:35:06] Are we expecting any
[2:35:09] significant changes this year
[2:35:11] is the contract is set a JULY
[2:35:13] to JUNE contracts that matches
[2:35:14] the county's fiscal year?
[2:35:24] Yeah, I orrect the agreement
[2:35:25] expires actually JUNE 30th of
[2:35:25] this year.
[2:35:26] We're currently in the
[2:35:27] discussions I guess I would say
[2:35:27] the negotiations about what the
[2:35:28] next year might be.
[2:35:28] I know there's been a lot of
[2:35:29] changes on the state level so
[2:35:30] there's some uncertainty at
[2:35:31] least how it's going to relate
[2:35:33] to the county and santa cruz.
[2:35:34] So we're currently still in
[2:35:34] negotiations but we plan on
[2:35:36] being an item to the order
[2:35:37] supervisors for consideration
[2:35:37] of a potential extension
[2:35:40] whether it be a one or two year
[2:35:41] or three year.
[2:35:42] I think the last time we're
[2:35:44] currently speaking a two year
[2:35:44] agreement extension to help
[2:35:47] with some of the uncertainty at
[2:35:48] the state level as well as to
[2:35:49] help us really understand the
[2:35:52] lepka recommendation or study
[2:35:52] that's going to be happening
[2:35:55] with special fire district.
[2:35:55] Gotcha.
[2:35:59] So no major changes this year
[2:36:03] anticipated right.
[2:36:03] All right.
[2:36:04] So my question thanks as part
[2:36:06] of that recommended actions,
[2:36:11] what there's still a minimum of
[2:36:11] attendance.
[2:36:13] One person could be meeting
[2:36:21] under this particular so you're
[2:36:22] one of the things that I wanted
[2:36:25] the only concern I got I'll be
[2:36:26] supportive as well.
[2:36:26] But to my concern I have is in
[2:36:28] making sure that a lot of these
[2:36:29] larger areas are represented by
[2:36:29] folks who actually live there.
[2:36:32] I'm talking about like
[2:36:33] stationery 23 loma prieta
[2:36:36] lascaris, bonny doon davenport
[2:36:40] carlita's of course which is
[2:36:41] probably one of the largest
[2:36:44] areas making sure that we have
[2:36:48] equal representation so they
[2:36:48] can advocate for things in
[2:36:52] there in the fire district.
[2:36:53] with that I'll ring it back to
[2:36:56] the board to entertain the
[2:36:57] motion for the recommended
[2:37:00] actions.
[2:37:04] Second can get a motion from
[2:37:05] supporters are going to get a
[2:37:05] second from supervisor
[2:37:05] martinez.
[2:37:08] Can we take a real call up to
[2:37:08] my supervisor to sirpa?
[2:37:09] I'm coming.
[2:37:12] I martinez I connect hernandez.
[2:37:26] I unanimously will be will now
[2:37:27] be moving into our closed
[2:37:27] session.
[2:37:28] The board will now recess for
[2:37:30] close session and return at
[2:37:31] county council.
[2:37:33] What time?
[2:37:34] Nothing reportable today so
[2:37:34] there'll be no returning into
[2:37:37] open session.
[2:37:38] Okay meeting is adjourned.