[0:00] please

[0:07] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States

[0:13] one nation under God indivisible with liberties

[0:19] yes [Music]

[0:32] hey outboard members I've been provided with a copy of the minutes of the last

[0:37] meeting emotion will be entertained to approve and accept the minutes of the

[0:42] regular meeting of May 20th 23. and there are no

[0:49] deletions or reflections

[0:54] sure

[1:05] Mr Hammer yes Mr Karate yes Mr Bruno yes Mr facto yes Mr Randall yes

[1:16] addresses

[1:20] Mr Garson oh wanted to come this evening and provide

[1:25] some updates it's been on a little while since you have all seen me

[1:30] so um you know had some good news to to report

[1:35] posted the 2022 zba minutes received those in their completion in a corrected

[1:41] form and was able to post all those up in the

[1:47] previous months uh cleaned up some postings on the site with the help of

[1:52] Kevin we went through it was noted that it was becoming clutter

[1:57] cluttery and uh some of the things like um for instance

[2:02] there was like no planning board meeting for June I had it scheduled to keep that

[2:08] message up for all of June conceptually or ideally it only needed to be up for

[2:12] the first week because it would have the planning meeting would have happened

[2:16] that first week or whatever so um you know little Corrections like that we put

[2:21] into place uh posted the music in the park parks

[2:25] flyer you know that's all been updated took the old one down posted the new one

[2:29] that barb provided and uh still waiting on some more I believe 175th events but

[2:37] you know been posting minor things as as I get it everything has been open up

[2:43] in a timely manner uh he did

[2:49] approved uh last month there was an SSL certificate which is the secure site

[2:55] license certificate that was renewed uh with approval of Kevin uh May 26th uh

[3:04] in June it was informed to me that there was some systems here at the town that

[3:10] were having problems layer 8 was contacted I worked with layer a on that

[3:14] the I'm not sure what the current status of

[3:19] any of that is but the end decision from layer 8 was that they were going to move

[3:23] their email migration and they had me contribute some of those

[3:28] uh things that they needed from my side I put those in place immediately and

[3:34] responded back I haven't heard so I don't I don't really know what the

[3:39] status of that is um we also communicated about the the

[3:45] domain name which was part of the the Old Homestead uh

[3:53] subscription that was approved months ago by Kevin to be

[3:59] moved to an account just for Skyler Falls that was done

[4:03] Larry wanted to actually uh take over the the domain name into their account

[4:09] or into whatever they wanted to put it in unfortunately that can't happen after

[4:14] a migration that's not or a transfer that's not my rule that's the

[4:20] organization that monitors all that so I I notified them of that but that's not

[4:26] a problem I in the next few days I'll be actually giving Kevin the information

[4:31] and a sign off and layer actually can have full access to the Skylar Falls

[4:36] account that we created just for that so they I mean they can still transfer

[4:40] after 60 days if they want but there's no no need to do so

[4:46] uh other than that

[4:51] you know one of the the nice things it's an issue it was a problem

[4:57] um it's still being worked on but one of the nice things is reg reached out with

[5:01] a concern or an issue where he actually found that the SSL certificate was

[5:04] having a problem and while the town has had issues before

[5:09] where they said oh it's coming up insecure and stuff I've never been able

[5:13] to actually witness that because I can't log in with the previous IT vendor they

[5:18] wouldn't allow me any access privileged access

[5:21] what was nice about this situation is is I could get in with Reggie's permission

[5:25] and examine what the problem was and in this case there uh what was

[5:32] determined and it's in the vendor's hands of the SSL cert and the and the

[5:37] site software is that Firefox not Chrome or Edge which is another version of

[5:43] Chrome um or any really any of the other

[5:46] browsers but Firefox has a specific issue

[5:51] and it tailors itself with security software so specifically like McAfee or

[5:58] ecent in my case my company uses ESET I don't have the issue because ESET passes

[6:04] this identity concern that Firefox has where other security software like

[6:10] McAfee evidently has a concern and it and the concern is simply that

[6:16] there's a certain amount of data points that it needs to validate for the

[6:21] certificate to be valid there's different versions and Brands

[6:25] and it's all very technical but the point being is that

[6:29] according to firefox's standard um it's not thinking that there's enough

[6:34] points of validation so we are still working on that uh thank

[6:40] you reg for the opportunity to actually fully look into that situation and have

[6:45] access to be able to actually evaluate it other than there's a problem because

[6:50] as I uh had noted I went to all my resources like digicert they have a

[6:55] thing where they validate your SSL cert and we got all check boxes saying

[7:00] everything is good so now

[7:05] on to the uh less comfortable aspects of what I'm here for tonight I had asked

[7:12] Kevin for an opportunity to speak after watching the last

[7:19] um meeting the work session

[7:23] um of this town board so

[7:27] I was not impressed nor really appreciated

[7:32] anything that was said by certain individuals of the Town board

[7:38] I had a couple questions I would like to ask of certain Town board members

[7:43] just to get on record maybe an ID or concept

[7:47] of you know evaluating their concerns a little bit more

[7:52] by Ken Vern can I ask how many times do you check your email have you ever

[7:56] checked your Skyler Paul's email no Mr perotti

[8:02] I don't bother because that doesn't work half the time

[8:05] and you know that how somebody's everything I hear from you what you hear

[8:09] okay listen I'm not here to be questioned neither are any of us we got

[8:12] you got a five minute period to speak so how about it okay thank you

[8:16] I I you don't have to answer them I'm just asking sure

[8:20] do you ever check your email okay how many times have

[8:26] the board the ones I've specifically mentioned karate Sherm and Vern how many

[8:32] times have you guys reached out to me with any concerns complaints or problems

[8:37] outside this venue I personally never have myself but we have through the

[8:43] board through Kevin and

[8:48] I'm sorry Pat the way I look at it is I am not happy with your services I'm not

[8:55] going to pull any strings I don't feel that things should have to

[9:00] go a year and a half to get things right

[9:05] when you're a professional company

[9:09] that's where I'm at that's how I feel I have nothing

[9:13] personally against you I don't like how your company has handled the situation

[9:18] here at the town I do that's where I'm at I appreciate that I will address that

[9:23] specifically what I appreciate that the that the town and the board has allowed

[9:28] me to do over this time is back in January when the original concerns came

[9:33] up there was uh the point that you know I wasn't updating the site and wasn't

[9:40] doing a lot of great things with the site there was no content it wasn't

[9:43] being updated and so on and so forth the board had given me an opportunity to

[9:48] prove myself and over the following months through many hours of work and

[9:53] following up with individuals I obviously was able to capture that data

[9:58] but the good news is is that I hope that the public can actually see that the

[10:03] problem really is at Northeastern computer or myself personally but the

[10:07] problem is actually with the the talent itself

[10:11] getting the content and the reason I know that and I appreciate all the

[10:15] information that you got Kevin you're very busy this is not a fault but be

[10:20] through your busyness it took Kevin over three months to actually get me his

[10:24] updates that he wanted for the site that's just a fact to date I still

[10:29] cannot get from Donna the actual 2023 meeting minutes and Kevin has sent at

[10:35] least a half dozen requests and myself now that has actually costed the ton of

[10:40] money because I've actually come down here with Kevin and actually did that

[10:44] so what's been proven is is that I will put in the effort and time and I have

[10:49] and I know that's very uncomfortable to hear

[10:51] but the point being is if people don't want something to succeed the

[10:56] contribution is is they're not going to succeed can I answer one of your things

[11:00] yeah sure okay and you might not want to hear this you came in last year and

[11:06] downloaded all my minutes that I had on my on my computer

[11:11] Kevin was in my office with you and me I was on my way out the door and you put

[11:16] in it is yet to be on the website over a year actually they've all been there for

[11:22] 2020. well they're not there right now or they haven't been they have been for

[11:28] months and it was actually validated by Kevin himself about four months ago in

[11:32] March and the point being is I'm not even I

[11:35] didn't talk about 2022. I'm actually talking about 2023 January

[11:40] February because the website hasn't been up and running we I can't get on that

[11:44] website okay there's training that needs to be done

[11:49] but I can't get you to email me what to get to the website anyone can go to the

[11:54] website right now again this is a perfect example if you want to find a

[11:58] problem you're going to find the problem so you're fine you're making excuse and

[12:03] finding problem the site has been up there's other people on this board that

[12:07] have went to this site Kevin talks to me all the time about the site

[12:11] Barb has been on the site um The Code Enforcement officer's been

[12:16] off the site that Sam has been on the site he asked

[12:21] me to pull some stuff up and down so the point being is

[12:25] the site's been up and I'm supposed to do training but you guys are talking

[12:30] about leaving the service so that's perfectly fine I don't think you'd

[12:35] probably want training at this point I mean that's just a cost that doesn't

[12:38] seem necessary so what I basically came to to just to clear up to understand

[12:43] because there was also an individual like MD from the town

[12:48] that contributed some idea that I would be able to stay on and and work with a

[12:56] new company and stuff like this I will do exactly what my contract which I

[13:00] don't actually have a yearly contract to sign but I will still abide because my

[13:05] company always does by exactly what my contract says I will continue to support

[13:09] this town the site will continue to be maintained by my company until you guys

[13:14] find someone else which you've stated you're looking for

[13:19] but I will say upon being notified that I'm no longer

[13:23] part of it I will give all the data that's the the database tables and all

[13:29] of the files that are underneath the public directory over to them

[13:34] but I'm not going to work for this other company to help build out a new site for

[13:38] another organization it's offered that that was

[13:42] brought up if I would do that I won't do that but I will give you guys

[13:48] everything that is yours and I will make sure it's in a very Universal form and

[13:53] I'll support you till then but I was very disappointed

[13:56] that individuals who don't even access the resources

[14:01] are taking people's words for it not even knowing the underlying concerns of

[14:05] problems and yes you can't know everything but it

[14:09] is the town council's responsibility to then go and do research and beginning

[14:15] and get a beginning understanding of what's going on

[14:19] and that should start with at least a conversation

[14:23] you know uh I'm the one that brought you here in the first place and we I think

[14:28] we've all been patient for the last year and a half of whatever it is and I'm

[14:33] just seeing where things haven't worked out okay I agree so at that point I

[14:37] think it's time instead of spinning our Wheels to move on which is what we're

[14:42] doing and I appreciate what you've done uh

[14:47] that's all I want I I agree and like I said I will support you guys to the end

[14:52] and you know so I I agree though it's it's obvious that

[14:58] it's not gentlemen exactly exactly so but

[15:06] um I just have a question like if when I went on right now I still showing that

[15:11] that issue exists on our website and it's on my phone it's not just a can't

[15:18] be just a Firefox down here because this is my phone okay so that's an issue on

[15:24] the website itself and that's been going on for a couple weeks now I I do

[15:29] apologize because I did say two weeks last time we were here for the work

[15:33] session and it was going into the second week

[15:37] because it has been since the previous two so it wasn't a full two weeks

[15:42] um as far as the training you know that would I think solved a lot

[15:47] of issues um I guess you know so that I wasn't in

[15:52] the middle of it and trying to juggle your schedule with their schedule I

[15:56] asked that you reach out to them I know that Sammy has reached out to you a

[16:01] couple different times and I don't know what happened there where you just

[16:05] didn't hook up or whatever and I know um our codes enforce them out so I also

[16:09] won the training so that he could get on there because there's a bunch of stuff

[16:13] that he needs to put on there um one of the things that I talked to

[16:16] Donna about you're right I've talked to her several times over the last couple

[16:19] of months but um Donna was under the impression that we were going to get the

[16:24] training so that we wouldn't have to pay you 15 minute blocks as long as I took

[16:28] if she had the access to put the minutes on and that stuff on her own actually

[16:35] we'll be paying you like 15 minute blocks or whatever it is you know how

[16:39] long that took um

[16:42] last time I was able to go on there you did get my message up but I didn't see

[16:47] any of the updates on the projects that I had sent here there's a whole um new

[16:54] page I know you said you were working on that I cannot get on this thing but

[17:00] um that that had all the updates of all the

[17:03] major so what's weird is and again this is this is good information to have I'm

[17:08] not sure do you have Android or Apple that's Apple okay so Apple

[17:14] that must be Safari browser so maybe there's an issue with Safari I'm

[17:18] actually on the site there's a little lock and secure and I'm here right now

[17:22] right so there's there's something going on but obviously then because you're the

[17:26] administrator that wouldn't make a difference on one of us

[17:31] no not at all I'm just asking because I don't know everything yeah no I agree so

[17:37] I just wanna but what I can tell you is uh all of your projects and I believe I

[17:42] sent you a notification of when they were up but they're underneath resources

[17:46] and there's a page called capital projects and all of them are there from

[17:50] the Morrisonville water district Improvement

[17:53] to the Macy Lane uh Rickson Avenue Recreation splash pad and Highway garage

[18:01] floor and water containment system and that's under capital projects you

[18:06] say yes resources so that's where resources is where jceo

[18:11] the CBD Grant careers in media are there's also a capital projects page now

[18:17] and that's where all of those updates were and I believe per your request

[18:22] because we didn't want to just put them on the supervisor page right I didn't

[18:25] want them on supervisor place I didn't want to fill up that first stage like

[18:29] overwhelming information um yeah and then um the other question I

[18:36] I had I I never get any um feedback

[18:40] I heard through rumor that should should the motor mve job opportunity or Meo I

[18:47] guess should that be pulled yeah you can take

[18:50] that one down because it got filled about two weeks ago or two or three

[18:54] weeks ago okay yeah I just there was no um

[18:58] no work to pull that it was just on there yeah no if you take that one down

[19:03] because all those jobs have been filled now up at the highway garage

[19:10] now Patrick in terms of the minutes of 22

[19:16] and 23. and I tried to access them and couldn't

[19:21] obviously so the uh can we get the 22 back up yeah

[19:28] the public underneath public records right down okay I am you can see that

[19:33] there's the regular meeting agendas yep uh that's all for 2022 well from October

[19:39] of 2022 to tonight uh regular meeting minutes for February

[19:45] of 2022 through December 27th so those are the regular meeting minutes

[19:50] for last year that was requested the only thing I have from the planning

[19:54] board that was ever given to me was a planning board agenda for April 4th of

[19:59] 2023. I have no meeting minutes for any of

[20:03] those I have a zoning board of appeals meeting

[20:06] agendas for this year but no minutes but up there is the full list of 2022

[20:13] meeting minutes for zba after being corrected that I received his name

[20:19] thanks

[20:26] uh I probably get 40 to 50 emails a day all right

[20:32] I get him before school an employer I'll Track Betting

[20:37] airborne Tom Skylar Falls Idaho and maybe it's

[20:42] because I'm just old and don't I'm not capable but I've never gotten any

[20:47] notification anyway of other than I guess if I went on I don't even know

[20:53] what my email address is I get calls from people I get texts from people

[20:58] yeah that that actually had to be set up on your phone remember we're set up I'll

[21:04] make one you can't get it I don't think it was said I thought you had nothing

[21:06] more to do with emails I I first off setting up any of that even on the

[21:12] computers here I did it once yeah this is back

[21:17] August of last year but other than that we had issues because some of those

[21:22] never even worked I didn't have privileged access that's your I.T

[21:27] company you need to have admin access for certain things certain things that

[21:31] were going on the way it was configured stuff like this I've never had that I

[21:35] tried to set it up to the best of my ability on all the systems that I could

[21:38] believe it or not the older systems work better

[21:41] I set it up on phones for the people who were here that had their phone that

[21:45] wanted me to set them up I think I set it up for you reg I set it up for you

[21:49] Kevin when we took pictures but that's an I.T responsibility

[21:55] and I was told stay back and also

[21:59] uh part of the new contract to my understanding with layer eight I was

[22:04] told that emails like that's that's them they're it's

[22:07] going with Microsoft or something like this well I guess I just think it's an

[22:11] unfair question because you're asking Vern if you ever checked his email I

[22:15] never checked mine I can't get them I mean where else am I going to get them

[22:18] right you ever get any so actually uh besides for Mike who was

[22:23] uh gone during the winter time when I actually handed it out everyone was

[22:27] given a piece of paper that actually was like a letter that had your login

[22:32] credentials and all of the server information

[22:34] it was handed out actually at the board meeting

[22:39] I don't know whatever happened to that yeah

[22:42] mine was working until that last issue with layer eight and it quit working

[22:49] no I can't really blame you for an email

[22:52] you've got nothing more to do with it

[23:04] I think two or three days with them to try to get the information they needed

[23:09] and the domain was part of it because I was getting told from them that you

[23:13] didn't want to give the name once I talked to you you said you had no

[23:17] problem doing that you just wanted us to sign up for him a waiver of liability

[23:22] that you no longer were in charge of it and had the domain and uh

[23:28] there's one other thing very specifically to what you just said

[23:32] I I can provide the board with the email from that I had with Brian but it was

[23:38] never that I was unwilling it was that I was uncertain if that was going to be

[23:42] transferred because that that's the website it's not used internal to hear

[23:46] it was just for the website but that's also at the same email that I had stated

[23:51] that it doesn't really matter because the town owns the account now it was

[23:55] moved from Rick Potter's account and we put it into your own so I said once that

[24:01] transfer is done I'm gonna have at it like so it never was an unwillingness

[24:07] um I just want to make that clear no I got

[24:10] several texts and emails back and forth from us saying that you're willing to do

[24:14] that as long as you're relieve the liability before Oh the other thing is

[24:18] you said you wanted something in there you wanted your passwords removed so

[24:21] that you couldn't have access and that would protect you in case they

[24:27] said okay because you had to have any Privileges and a password yeah so I knew

[24:32] it would come to me but those are two things but uh yeah they've been uh they

[24:37] had me plug in some I I believe it's uh account validation

[24:42] or verification for Microsoft so the process I started I I don't know what

[24:48] yeah you were supposed to send me the domain and the domain information or the

[24:55] house or excuse me the user word and then I asked you to send me the password

[25:00] separately in a text so that all that information was in one electronic email

[25:06] first off I I I I understood what they were saying

[25:10] there and the password will be brought to you in text separate or even but it

[25:15] was going to be a paper and that's exactly right it was yeah just so that

[25:18] they didn't have the full somebody hacked it they didn't get the full keys

[25:22] to the kingdom exactly right there I mean on that too and I know they've been

[25:27] waiting on that so that they can do whatever they got to do and then if if I

[25:30] can just to finally address your last concern there term which was again I

[25:36] will only state like you obviously became aware that you had

[25:41] an email address uh it's also posted on the website

[25:45] if there was any concern or you needed it hooked up to your phone

[25:48] even if it wasn't me that was going to do it

[25:51] you could have reached out right and asked the question

[25:57] seriously I mean I just assumed that so that is it fair to say that you don't

[26:02] visit the website because it has been posted you know what

[26:06] the last time I looked at the website it said unsecured website and I said

[26:12] well guess I'm not gonna go on this remember and I never went back

[26:16] I'm just being truthful

[26:20] mine does the same thing instead of my computer down here

[26:24] um if it works on Android what do you got

[26:27] purple iPhone too anybody got an Android hey does yours come up on your hands so

[26:34] it's something my iPhone stuff then all right and like I said I don't understand

[26:39] all the computer Windows stuff so I just looked at that and said it's not coming

[26:45] up yeah and again I use the validation tools that I have they gave thumbs up I

[26:51] have screenshots of those and also like I said my systems work fine

[26:56] um we test with the latest versions of like Edge and

[27:01] Chrome um some companies go as far as to State

[27:05] like your best put on a website best user experience if viewed in Chrome or

[27:10] Edge um

[27:12] there's not usually a need to do that this is kind of a weird situation though

[27:17] because you do get that warning which kind of is a halter to say hey what's

[27:21] going on um it's it's very weird I have not

[27:25] experienced a specific issue before so I have reached out to the vendor

[27:30] now that I actually have data I was able to take screenshots was able to validate

[27:35] someone reached out I have sent that on they are looking

[27:39] into it and working on it so and that started in just two days

[27:45] a less important question

[27:49] the Facebook page that you set up under town of Schuyler Falls

[27:55] that's operational who is the administrator of that well you actually

[28:01] bring up a very good point um right now so if I presented this back

[28:07] to the board a while back the old website or the old Facebook page Rick

[28:13] podiker was the sole administrator of his account got hacked and we've lost

[28:18] access could the town work to get access back

[28:23] yes that's a lengthy process um probably costly with lawyers getting

[28:29] involved to send certified letters or whatever what we chose to do is create a

[28:35] new one at this time I am still our company is the only one I have I

[28:41] actually this was a while back and it was only verbal no no written

[28:45] communication I had to talk to you briefly about like needing to get more

[28:49] people on there we maybe talked about adding your personal Facebook account

[28:53] what it is is the way Facebook works is you take your personal Facebook account

[28:58] like it's it's your identity it's kind of like your username

[29:02] and that gets attached to a business page so like the Skylar Falls page

[29:09] the only problem is it's got to be accepted and it's got to be accepted in

[29:13] a certain amount of time so there should be more than just my company on there

[29:19] um so Kevin I think that would obviously should be at least you but I was

[29:24] thinking uh the dish was off of just how some stuff goes maybe Barb would be a

[29:29] backup or someone on the town board like there should be Multiple List I best

[29:35] practice is at least three people but I don't have three people to

[29:41] assign it to

[29:45] all right but right now you uh you're like the administrator yeah right yeah

[29:50] oh you know and then we make posters you got no problem giving us that so we can

[29:55] figure out what the heck to do with that yeah

[29:59] you might notice that the town meetings that are being recorded on this

[30:06] all of a sudden don't appear on our Facebook page

[30:11] there's many people that not to be critical of you Mr donut but

[30:17] there's a lot of people who rely on this to watch an official more an official

[30:23] site right here that the child board is responsible for

[30:27] so are you involved in that at 100

[30:33] um and I can take full blame on that

[30:36] because it seems to be a touchy subject on cost

[30:40] but it requires me to log into that system right there it's also in in flux

[30:45] because of uh the transfer of I.T companies but with the way normal

[30:51] process is whether I'm here physically sometimes I've been here physically and

[30:54] done it so I'd rather have to come down or I would remote in remotely with

[30:59] permission and so that hasn't been done yeah though

[31:04] the way that we set it up is after the meeting I plug it into my office I leave

[31:09] it up and open so you can go in on it so I've been doing that right along so

[31:13] maybe it was an oversight you know on here and that you weren't pulling it off

[31:17] anymore

[31:20] I assume you were still doing that so I just know that there was questions about

[31:25] the amount of time spent well I never hit you with cost unless

[31:30] you I'm running through yeah okay you know because the first time I closed

[31:35] the book and you're like no I can't do it once you close it it shuts it down so

[31:38] that is that is correct sometimes I leave it open and plug it in and that

[31:44] way you said you could remote so along this cost of that and pulling that is

[31:48] not a not a factor I can do that after this meeting tonight when he plugs it in

[31:52] oh great how much does it cost

[31:57] whatever time it takes for for YouTube to upload I create a custom

[32:03] page front it usually takes depending on how long

[32:08] these meetings last between 15 minutes and 30 minutes to do for each meeting I

[32:14] think there's three meetings that need to be posted

[32:19] Richard I I looked at the meeting the other day uh

[32:22] on YouTube that was posted or that you took

[32:27] as I said Richard donor it was posted by the Rick Hazen maybe

[32:34] do you have the word professional award session and I

[32:38] and a meeting did he share it or something or I don't

[32:43] know it came up oh I know what it is see there's as you know deck there's two

[32:49] sites yeah one of them is called you had named it s f times

[32:55] the asset times is public

[32:59] so when he ends up posting a meeting on S F times

[33:04] it can be shared anyone can share it so I think that's what you mean it could

[33:11] be I mean it's a public site the difference is is you can definitely tell

[33:16] the two videos apart because this has a 360 view yes 180 up top and a split move

[33:22] 180 below where with his camera he's pointed it towards us there's a smaller

[33:29] viewing angle and then he directs it so you can easily decipher which ones are

[33:33] Pub the the town sponsored ones versus which ones are not they didn't need in

[33:38] any case let's get an alcohol that's what we want it's getting out there all

[33:45] right so

[33:47] once again there was concern of cost is there a concern of cost

[33:52] he just brought up a concern of problems so how much is it you told someone to

[33:57] take what's the cost if the contract was 100 an hour

[34:03] and if it takes how long it specifically takes me

[34:06] there's no guarantee how long can you tell me how long you're going to talk

[34:09] here tonight it's around 15 to 30 minutes

[34:13] per video you're talking there's three videos that

[34:17] were behind them so an hour and a half maybe if you're if you're saying am I

[34:22] going to give you an actual number here no because I can't all part of it so

[34:26] well but like you're saying so our work session our last work session was two

[34:30] and a half hours I think it's a pretty lengthy one yes

[34:36] so you're talking 250 dollars no no no it doesn't take not how long

[34:43] the video is it takes it takes about 50 it depends on how fast yeah and the

[34:48] internet connection can upload it to you so it's only a fraction of like 15

[34:53] minutes to 30 minutes to get it uploaded and get everything attached to it so no

[34:57] it's not the length of the meeting oh okay but the length of the meeting

[35:01] determines how big the file is which determines how long it takes to push it

[35:06] up okay so why is it something that we could do from here to get it on the site

[35:12] just like our minutes remember we talked about that and it was going to cost yeah

[35:17] we don't have any admin credentials right now well the good news is is

[35:21] YouTube again if you have an account with YouTube I can give you permission

[35:26] and you guys can post it yourself and that actually has nothing to do with

[35:30] the website whatsoever so right if you want to post

[35:34] go for that that that I mean that's using YouTube Just like Facebook if

[35:38] anyone wants to do the posting of the meeting minutes that I put on Facebook

[35:42] or on the website until you get the training and credentials of that so

[35:46] which which you want uh gladly take take the copy of the PDF agenda

[35:53] and put it over on Facebook I can give anybody that wants to give me their

[35:57] Facebook credential well that wants to be accepted

[36:01] to the Schuyler Falls page I can give you access and you can be posting your

[36:05] own material so you set that up for the town

[36:10] that's correct and YouTube as well right so

[36:15] is there as long as you're saying you give us

[36:19] that so the way it works is again you have a personal account so you sign up

[36:25] for a YouTube account sure and you can sign up for a YouTube account and then

[36:29] my personal account which I I don't ever need to give you credentials for I'm the

[36:34] one that set up the Skyler Falls page so that I send you an invite to join that

[36:40] as an administrator I give Sherm or reg or Mike or Vern Donna uh the access to

[36:48] from your personal account to that page and then as an administrator you have

[36:53] the right to remove people you have a right to remember to add new people you

[36:57] can remove videos add videos

[37:01] but there's no there's no like single credential that I give you guys to give

[37:06] get access nor is there that way for Facebook it's

[37:10] it's you take your personal account I invite you and then you never have to

[37:14] share any credentials it's it's much more secure

[37:18] that's how they do it today

[37:30] and we'll gladly gladly do that all right so if I contact you'll put a

[37:37] couple of us on as admin could I go on now I'm

[37:42] experienced I don't care who it is okay did you have a website before

[37:54] you know I had a website

[37:57] no he took it over the qualifications are high there

[38:06] so please be a stickler am I to post the

[38:11] videos and spend the money or am I just going to show somebody

[38:15] what do we want to do because this is this is also a point of contention on on

[38:20] how fast material gets up is if I have to ask for permission or approval every

[38:25] time there's obviously a delay right but you didn't have to before it was our

[38:30] verbal that you were just doing that's why I continue to leave it open on my

[38:34] little round table back there every time we had to meet

[38:40] is there anybody that doesn't want it both

[38:43] okay go ahead and catch yourself perfect as far as I knew I thought there was

[38:48] something going on with it now getting back to the email thing

[38:53] quick question for you who is doing email now because I was in

[38:59] Vermont Hospital in intensive care for the three weeks when you did the

[39:04] training I'm not even been set up

[39:08] don't have a cool who to set up you they're saying you're not doing that

[39:12] anymore they're saying somebody else's Foods

[39:16] I don't know I don't know what the current status is I I have submitted per

[39:22] layer AIDS request specific information that says that's transferring if it

[39:27] hasn't yet then I guess it would still be me but I

[39:32] I I don't know that's I can add you I can give you

[39:36] instructions and if it doesn't work that's going to tell you

[39:39] that it's not on my server anymore because that means it would be

[39:42] validating with someone else's but again until they get that

[39:47] admin information that we had discussed about a week week ago or so

[39:52] um that was what I understood later

[39:57] yeah that's that should not be linked down for the actual transfer of email

[40:01] that's just it's a happiness the domain so when you're saying you can copy to

[40:07] copy the what the emails and I they don't have they

[40:14] haven't told me anything about what their plans are I have no idea again I

[40:20] can't I can't speak to so I just know you were working with

[40:24] them for two or three days like yeah what I did was uh they first approached

[40:28] me about the SSL cert I assisted by re-pushing that out

[40:33] and it semi worked but they still were seeing something that they didn't want

[40:38] to see so I said I'd push it out again

[40:42] upon pushing it out again I created another issue and that took another day

[40:49] full day to resolve so that's when I notified you that

[40:54] attempting to to push this certificate out multiple times was forcing it out

[40:59] multiple times was was just not not working so that's all I did with them

[41:05] was certificate and they gave me a validation code to plug in so that

[41:11] Microsoft could validate that skyr falls truly wanted to go to Microsoft accounts

[41:18] so a lot we're I'm still having that issue and I think you get that

[41:25] message and yeah we're gonna go on an unsecure

[41:31] whatever it is I was told by and that's the first I'm hearing about I asked

[41:36] layer eight layer eight had said all the emails are working they just

[41:42] they're going to transfer it off that's what they said hey whose name is that

[41:45] certificate in yours earlier

[41:51] the only thing that's has my name on it is the technical contact

[41:56] um in the information

[42:01] but no it's actually the person is Kevin because he's

[42:07] but yeah it says Skype the company

[42:12] so Vern if you would like you can reach out to me we can schedule that we can

[42:17] get it set up on your phone gladly gladly will do that

[42:22] um phones I I don't really have a problem with I I guess the question

[42:26] would be is that is that overstepping I don't know

[42:30] um I know I can't work on any of the the town systems because of the security it

[42:36] requires enhanced security and I've never been able to get that so you get

[42:41] weird issues like certain folders aren't created like delete box and stuff or

[42:46] sent or junk mail um so it doesn't work well so that

[42:50] should be any Town owned system should be done by the IIT company but I can

[42:56] assist easily with any other with phones or with personal systems so as far as

[43:03] the domain information that's needed you can take care of that tomorrow so I can

[43:08] then it'll be on layering then I can hold them under the thumb

[43:13] they're telling me they need that stuff to go on and go there you go so the

[43:19] company you can take care of I'd just like to say thanks for cooperating with

[43:22] Larry yeah that was super helpful for sure yeah I think they've been very easy

[43:29] and very good to work with so

[43:32] our first conversations once I got jumped on board I appreciate everything

[43:36] you do with them um but yeah

[43:39] uh Howard go ahead where are we as apartment heads as far as still getting

[43:45] training for the website are we on hold are we still going forward with that

[43:51] well being that um

[43:55] he's in a middle of a transfer um

[44:00] I don't know is that something you need if it's something you need immediately

[44:04] and you can work something out with that to get what you need to get on there

[44:11] um I don't have a problem one on the board but I don't have a problem with

[44:15] what a half hour probably 20 minutes maybe

[44:27] you know what I'm saying all right that's what we had talked about in

[44:31] previous conversations is probably a half hour

[44:35] worker training to get somebody up to speed on using their part for the

[44:40] website and I know you've always had a concern about

[44:44] how much privilege to give them so that they don't do something somewhere else

[44:49] that may take you three hours to fix so yeah

[44:55] right so you know but to get him so that he can use it and put some information

[45:03] on there in some of his forms and some of that stuff

[45:14] we take training now with that will that go forward after the transition that the

[45:20] training would be the same for them website after that depends on uh the

[45:27] carrier and what they set up for a website so I can't answer that because I

[45:33] have no idea whether you know uh errors would be the same as what what parts is

[45:41] right now you'd have to have the definite details in order for that to be

[45:47] is everything the way I understand yours is all programmed more like a programmer

[45:53] one that just I'm going months back now when we're looking at everybody and you

[45:58] ended up staying on uh that was one of the differentiations

[46:03] you remember great yeah let me just summarize real quick a lot of websites

[46:08] including like North Shore which you guys were looking at before they use a

[46:12] WordPress template WordPress is a a basically an underlying site that you

[46:19] can be customized and this site is not that this site is very

[46:24] specific to government organizations right and their needs and it's more on

[46:29] the programmer side of things you have to understand it to do it where the

[46:32] other is more like a lack of a better term because I'm not a

[46:36] an engineer in this stuff but more like a windows program if you click in

[46:41] templates right yeah click and play so it's easier and everyone's here for the

[46:46] lay guy or girl could use then somebody that

[46:50] knows Dallas

[46:54] yeah it's very specific to the vendor so yeah

[46:58] well is anybody got anything else no I appreciate you coming in and

[47:04] appreciate everything you did so far thank you for your time and

[47:08] we'll be in touch with you all ready thank you

[47:19] all right so that was our addressee um after the last work session we did

[47:25] decide to um because of the

[47:28] the ask of the residents to do public forum at the beginning

[47:34] so that's next if anybody for public forum has anything they'd like to ask

[47:40] again I highly advise if you're going to ask the board questions that you have a

[47:46] written responsible down so you can hand it to us so that we can get the

[47:51] information or questions to your information

[47:57] sheet questions or we can have a resolution to enact that yeah I don't

[48:01] have to because I looked at it through it and uh there is there is no other

[48:07] than our agenda there is no time in here that says that we have to do anything

[48:13] in a particular order all the states in there is that we do allow for all the

[48:19] form and that was uh the Revolutionary fast

[48:23] right so like I said it's always an open for

[48:26] discussion right now what's open for discussion this change

[48:31] yeah we've all we did is changed the agenda the agenda was posted right on

[48:36] the website but then I I had made a statement at the work session it was my

[48:42] request that any residents they might attend a meeting and gain

[48:48] information and at the end of the meeting they might

[48:51] want to address the board about things they've learned during the meeting

[48:56] so I was hoping that

[48:59] the audience would be open to address the board at the beginning

[49:04] and at the end or or one or the other if they want to

[49:09] address the board at the beginning of the meeting

[49:13] they they might prefer to address the board at the end of the meeting there's

[49:17] an option for that in the guidelines right yeah

[49:22] H and I are still in there the the second address see if it's from the same

[49:27] person Shawn just has a vote from them perfect okay okay all right good so we

[49:34] didn't have to change anything that's why we didn't have to do a new

[49:36] resolution because when we did the rules we had never put in there specifically

[49:43] when they apply okay so we can change the order yeah and we'll see how it goes

[49:50] so again is there anybody for a public phone

[49:53] well I'd like the suggestion that Howard made last time at the work session that

[49:58] if you're unable to stay for the whole meeting that you put a sign up sheet up

[50:02] there and allowing the speak and keep the public forum at the end yep there is

[50:07] a sign up sheet up there did you sign that to speak tonight for the bikes on

[50:12] yeah so that's that's what that's there for that gives us an attendance and if

[50:18] you want to speak that's why I looked at it before I went out and see if it

[50:21] written on there but other than your names but yeah if you got something

[50:25] specific that you want to address I covered that last me also saying that at

[50:32] least I don't if I don't know who you are at least I can call you by name

[50:36] I didn't say hey you or whatever you know so so if I could so Richard you're

[50:44] you're basically saying the way it's always been

[50:48] I think that was done by resolution was that addresses like like pack as long as

[50:54] you sign up or sign a paper and say you want to address the board you can come

[51:00] in before we all sit here for the whole meeting and you have a specific thing to

[51:05] address the board you address the board and then if you

[51:08] want to leave that's fine I know back a hundred years ago when I was on the

[51:12] board what the problem was is that people prefer to

[51:18] be able to talk in the beginning that's why we had said well if you had some

[51:21] specific one to talk about absolutely and that way you don't have to sit

[51:26] through the whole meeting because some people don't want to go through this in

[51:31] the in the beginning of nine o'clock at night right because they want to they

[51:35] want to come in and hear the meeting but they don't want to hear all the

[51:39] the public forum so after the meeting and then it goes to public forum if they

[51:44] don't have anything to address the board with they can get up and leave they're

[51:47] not going to miss any part of the meeting right so it's always been that

[51:51] anyone can address the board just write it down and that way too like

[51:56] Kevin was saying we can we can know ahead of time that Richard donor is

[52:01] going to ask such and such if we want to the sooner we know about

[52:05] it the more we can research and have an answer for you

[52:08] instead of you know like I ran out the cuff and then you say I don't know the

[52:12] answer Kevin's done this before he doesn't know the answer he's not going

[52:16] to give you the wrong answer and he won't get the answer until the next

[52:19] meeting anyway so so I guess we're back to the beginning

[52:23] here was it your

[52:26] misunderstanding of how we did stuff why we were asking to do it prior

[52:33] because we've we've always allowed that as a Gussy the only thing we ever asked

[52:37] is an addressee is that you give us your name

[52:41] and some kind of subject you don't you know we've never held anybody to the

[52:45] subject matter but again a name so we can say hey I do have you know several

[52:51] addresses at one addressee or three addresses and then they talk just like

[52:55] Mr Garcia if you look at the agenda in the night that's what he asked that's

[53:00] why he's under aggressive no I didn't know that you could sign up

[53:04] prior to the meeting you don't even have to sign up the way it was all you had to

[53:08] do is let one of us know you know what I'm saying

[53:11] yeah let the Town Park know so because she does the agenda so if you let Donna

[53:17] know she had the information ahead of time to put the right people on there in

[53:22] their names and then my head's up on what's talking

[53:25] about is nice and I've always said I don't want to sit up here while somebody

[53:30] fires 15 questions at me especially if they don't give me time to answer you

[53:34] know sometimes it's been a past practice in here by some people when they're

[53:39] doing that that they want everything out on the record well I'll tell you right

[53:43] now I don't take shorthand I don't maybe nothing you don't either I was going to

[53:48] say other than Donna she might be the only one develop you know record that

[53:51] that fast so I always say hey please if you're going to do that give me a

[53:56] written response to all those as your questions are and then I will do my best

[54:01] to find you the answers but if you just want to sit here and fire stuff out of

[54:05] me I can't answer that because you know I can maybe remember two or three in a

[54:10] row when we get into five six seven and eight I'm going to lose what the first

[54:13] two or three were and I can't write that fast so but yeah you know it's either

[54:18] way uh this board apparently doesn't matter

[54:22] to them because I discussed that at the work session whether they want to move

[54:26] the public forum up front uh really it's no

[54:31] no matter to me or where you want to do it and I know we're never going to

[54:35] please everybody because like Sharon said some people just want

[54:40] to hear the meeting and that's what they're here for because a topic that's

[54:43] being brought up they're concerned about or would like information on and some

[54:48] people are here just because they have an issue that they would like to ask the

[54:52] board and get a response so it's a half a medium you know we're never going to

[54:57] get everybody to be totally happy but like I said it was at the uh the

[55:03] response that we had got from the people that do show up down here to the town

[55:07] meetings and she's the same people that care

[55:11] enough to show up and and find out what's going on they they had asked to

[55:17] do the public forum at the beginning so it was a simple agenda that's all it was

[55:23] at this time but it

[55:26] we can leave it the way it was if everybody's in agreement in the audience

[55:30] that you know you can always do like I say the

[55:35] addresses and then we can do the public forum at the end but either way it's

[55:39] coming it's letter H and I

[55:43] sorry

[55:47] so where we're at well no I actually I I think it's just a general

[55:52] opinion of the audience I mean we're here today

[55:57] because of you guys I mean so whatever whatever works for you but we kind of

[56:02] try to want to work it with everybody so other than Rock who had

[56:08] that was his concern Jason said dad I don't want to sit here all night so I

[56:12] can be hurt um

[56:15] 5 000 people in this town hear from everybody

[56:19] it's not uh um this is not a major concern that I get with that phone ring

[56:25] enough in the other room I'm just trying to

[56:29] please the committee that shows up here every day for each of the work sessions

[56:34] and their regular one for me so there's always been addresses forever since I've

[56:40] been here to address these and and if like if somebody comes in and wants to

[56:46] ask Mike about a road they called ahead of time and this way Mike can do his

[56:51] research and address it and it's always been that way in public forum normally

[56:57] because people want to hear what's going on in the meeting and then they talk

[57:01] about well I you know I heard this blah blah blah but addresses have always been

[57:06] there public forum has always been there not that it can't be changed but now you

[57:10] have addresses public forum same thing

[57:19] so what's your pleasure

[57:23] you could sign up in advance I'd like to see the public forum stay at the end so

[57:28] if you have any questions about what happened at the meeting you don't have

[57:32] to wait 30 days to ask that question right

[57:36] just throw that as a general question without anybody else got any opinion on

[57:40] it I bite my tongue sometimes I agree about

[57:45] Richard because a lot of what I asked is brought up from

[57:52] the meetings

[57:57] for some yes there are some instances public form and there's going to be some

[58:02] instances addresses yeah but I agree with letting you guys know as soon as

[58:07] possible ahead of time if it's an addressee try to so you can get the

[58:11] information so like I said um one of the biggest I guess was Jason because Jason

[58:18] Goes if I got a question on resolution 21-86 and you're already done the

[58:25] resolution and then you do public forum at the end I don't ever get to tell you

[58:29] my opinion of it or you know so like I say but uh in that case he can still

[58:36] asked to be addressed at the beginning of the meeting yeah so no go ahead go

[58:41] ahead no it's how many days ahead should somebody call or bring a letter in or it

[58:46] would I don't want to speak for Don because she doesn't agree but we usually

[58:49] finish the agenda about 24 hours in advance it'd be nice to know like before

[58:53] 24 hours and it's a little more than that because we won't close at four

[58:57] o'clock so you know if you give it the business day

[59:06] no because you know we can always answer it Rick and a lot of times to be honest

[59:11] with you I don't have all the answers you know what I mean so I might come

[59:15] here use my ass on my might tell you that hey I gotta research that right it

[59:20] should be like that yeah I gotta research it before I give you a definite

[59:23] I don't want to give you that wrong information I'd rather make sure that

[59:26] and I hate I hate to put our town attorney on the spot like that without

[59:30] him having a chance to uh refresh his recollection or do any research so you

[59:35] know it works out much better if we do have a responsible or written response

[59:39] so something simple actually you know what I mean but some of the stuff that

[59:44] like when Mike MD was firing question after question that's the question I'm

[59:49] like I can't some of that I know some of it I don't know I'm real not a big Tech

[59:53] guy but that's where it's nice where they write it down and I'll do my best

[59:57] book does that work for you by the way okay

[1:00:03] not well like for instance Pat Garza how long ago did you know

[1:00:10] Thursday yes about a week in advance and he's you know kind of a business

[1:00:14] associate 24 hours works for you though yeah I mean it works yeah for him yeah

[1:00:20] we don't do the agenda agenda yeah we have to put the agenda

[1:00:25] no best cases okay we try to get the agenda out 24 hours in advance if it's

[1:00:30] not you know practical because we're still working on some or you know

[1:00:36] computer issues or technical riches we can still as long as we did our due

[1:00:40] diligence and tried to get it up in a timely for him to be honest with fashion

[1:00:44] yes they like they would like it up 24 hours in advance but things happen and

[1:00:49] they realize that in life so I've had that you know it's no one has

[1:00:54] hit me on almost Five Ghost hit me on a couple different times where you know I

[1:00:58] wasn't up 24 hours in advance and whether or not we can still continue

[1:01:02] with a meeting or a work session and it's been through our lawyer and it's

[1:01:07] been through the association of towns lawyers and they said it's long as

[1:01:10] you're doing your due diligence it was never intended to stop Town business and

[1:01:16] I've canceled meetings because it wasn't up there because of the information I

[1:01:20] had right here saying that's where it's not good by hearsay was you had to have

[1:01:24] it there 24 hours in advance if you don't you can't have the meat well that

[1:01:29] is not the case you you can't play that game and say well oh yeah we're busy or

[1:01:34] whatever you know you have to be realistic you have to show that you hey

[1:01:38] I did this for you now or that or whatever or you know we have

[1:01:42] documentation that the computers are down to something but now for the most

[1:01:45] part these things are always going to be up 24 hours in advance so I think as

[1:01:49] long as you give us a day notice that's all anybody would ask for that's fair

[1:01:54] enough thank you I appreciate that yeah I also look at it as a courtesy thing

[1:01:59] too where if I have one question 24 hours is going to be good

[1:02:03] if I got to come in here with 20 questions for you I would want to give

[1:02:08] you a little bit more time to prep so I would say three or four days ahead and

[1:02:11] get into you if you want if you want the answer that night yeah give me a little

[1:02:17] bit of time to get the information if like I said I don't know at all numbered

[1:02:21] oil I learn every day so if you want the information that night yeah I would try

[1:02:27] to get it in and give us enough time to look it up if if not and you just want

[1:02:32] the information whenever we can give to you three or four or five days later

[1:02:37] I'll get there and if I can't there are things that I have been asked that I

[1:02:42] can't even answer and other people can't answer and I'll tell you that too I just

[1:02:46] you know I'll tell you I just don't know them we can't find out what 100 is

[1:02:50] supposed to happen in that case so you know but if we can I would definitely

[1:02:56] get it for you I know the board will work for it too

[1:02:59] so we'll go back to the same way if that was meant

[1:03:02] thanks so we will change that

[1:03:08] no other nobody else

[1:03:27] all right um I got a couple Communications I'll

[1:03:30] take care of those um during my time so we don't have to

[1:03:34] spend a lot of extra added time so I'll move right to a monthly reports

[1:03:40] um can I get a motion to accept the monthly reports okay by the burn

[1:03:47] so I ain't ready to beat you by about a tenth of a second I'll give it to right

[1:03:54] Mr Hamel yes Mr Karate yes Mr Bruno yes Mr facto yes Mr Randall yes okay

[1:04:01] receipts um

[1:04:04] town clerk 900 and 15 dollars

[1:04:09] uh Marcel water

[1:04:13] 242.23 Woods Mills water 282.39

[1:04:20] Justice Barber 1772 dollars

[1:04:26] Justice van orwick 1326 dollars cash receipts

[1:04:33] uh Charter Communications seventeen thousand ninety two dollars and 36 Cents

[1:04:41] uh Clinton County uh Treasurer 28 059.73

[1:04:48] again Clinton County uh Treasurer 55 000

[1:04:55] 849.25 uh niceculva 595 they sponsored bootleg

[1:05:03] um for August uh our 175th anniversary uh they did that last year too also so I

[1:05:11] want to thank them and I won't want to go through that whole thing so can I get

[1:05:15] a motion to accept the receipts I'll move

[1:05:19] uh

[1:05:23] and Mike roll call

[1:05:28] yes Easter Friday yes Mr Bruno yes Mr facto yes yes

[1:05:35] okay there were no um meeting minutes for the planning

[1:05:38] board or the zoning board last month there was but they did their drafts and

[1:05:43] they haven't approved gotcha next time because they didn't have meetings so I

[1:05:47] stand corrected uh the preliminaries have not turned into finals that I had

[1:05:52] their meeting to approve the previous minutes

[1:05:57] oh

[1:06:04] um okay councilor councilman under Department reports

[1:06:09] yeah I got a question Kevin um the

[1:06:12] house up there on Flat Rock Road and

[1:06:17] whatever uh single Street I see now there's metal piled up in piles with

[1:06:24] some type of ratchet straps hook to it is that us pulling that stuff

[1:06:30] out or is that individuals coming in there and pulling stuff out of there

[1:06:34] because if it is and that's our responsibility of that land and they get

[1:06:39] hurt it's probably not a good source to have

[1:06:43] them in there doing it I don't believe I know we haven't taken over that

[1:06:48] okay it's still private by the individual who owns the property and as

[1:06:54] far as us going out there to do anything we have not to my knowledge unless

[1:06:58] somebody knows something that I don't know so that's probably them trying to

[1:07:02] get some of the metal together and maybe Salvage it I know

[1:07:06] that I told the Portsmouth who's been working on getting that cleaned up so

[1:07:10] maybe they are filing better to get stuff together

[1:07:14] um that has had a couple court dates with it so I can't

[1:07:19] rent a lot of information because of the report proceedings but uh

[1:07:24] do you go to auction yeah

[1:07:29] so whoever purchased it

[1:07:36] I think the county says 30 days before they take it over so

[1:07:43] I can access who owns the new property yet so so did a county take that

[1:07:48] property over or was it actually encumbered in by the county for back

[1:07:53] taxes and then I've been told that somebody bought it

[1:07:58] for like I noticed that it was listed in the

[1:08:03] paper for back taxes that was public information so I don't mind saying that

[1:08:06] on the record because it was probably

[1:08:10] I never heard one way or the other what had happened or if they had paid the

[1:08:14] back taxes on it I couldn't tell you for sure because we're reading that time

[1:08:18] period between the auction and the releasing of the public information

[1:08:23] I went to the auction and people did bid on it oh my Geo know if I was awarded no

[1:08:29] now you have to wait for it uh the county to approve the sales on them

[1:08:34] right but you don't know if it was awarded is

[1:08:38] what I'm saying that somebody actually did take him yeah none of them are

[1:08:41] awarded at the actual auction right

[1:08:46] no because you're gonna have to have a cashier's check or whatever

[1:08:50] [Music] all right so still being worked on thank

[1:08:55] you it's a very good day there are several that are good

[1:09:03] okay I've got a few things

[1:09:10] I was contacted by a resident and he wanted to come down here and file

[1:09:16] a Freedom of Information Form regarding

[1:09:21] the situation with our playground panelism

[1:09:25] and I'm looking at it I'm looking at the

[1:09:30] police report on it in this instant occurred in March of 21.

[1:09:37] now I brought this up various times at meetings

[1:09:42] here we're in a window over two years we had a 63 thousand dollar claim

[1:09:51] against the insurance company which they paid off

[1:09:55] however no just one of you talking about

[1:10:00] everyone what do you mean well I was trying to

[1:10:06] see who you're talking to but go ahead thanks

[1:10:10] anyway the work isn't done

[1:10:14] the guys got them part of the money most of the money

[1:10:18] and the contract which he had prepared is not even signed by him

[1:10:25] his signature is not on this document so what kind of business dealings is

[1:10:33] this anyway with this particular contractor

[1:10:37] I spoke to Mr pratty a little bit about it

[1:10:40] I wasn't sure about the date looking at the police report

[1:10:45] over two years the taxpayers dollars

[1:10:50] are in the hands of someone else right now

[1:10:54] and I'm demanding something to be done with this

[1:10:59] this is ridiculous how many contractors would do this

[1:11:05] and why are we tolerating this

[1:11:09] any answer yeah happened during Colvin

[1:11:13] so the playground equipment wasn't actually

[1:11:20] able to be received until late last October and that was actually two months

[1:11:26] ahead of schedule okay

[1:11:28] um I have had several Communications and you didn't have to get the Freedom of

[1:11:33] Information you could have just asked me and I would have gave you the whole

[1:11:36] folder but um anyways right now we're waiting on uh Miracle equipment and I've

[1:11:44] had several emails this year the first date they were supposed to be

[1:11:50] working on it was April because we went into the winner so there was no way to

[1:11:55] tear that down and put the new stuff up in the winter so April was first date

[1:12:01] that they had or tentatively set and then I went to Maine

[1:12:05] and then I went to Jewel and now shortly we'll be in July I just

[1:12:10] got a second email and he forwards uh Larry the company we

[1:12:17] hired forward the emails to Bob or Robert at Miracle equipment when he

[1:12:24] requests hey when are you gonna be able to come down do we have a hard date

[1:12:30] because the last hard date we had was June 19th and his crews are all they've

[1:12:36] been in 52 different towns of the United States not just here

[1:12:42] there's been a 52 because they're Miracle equipment's all over I know that

[1:12:47] their office is out of Vermont they've been at 52 towns already since spring

[1:12:52] and year so until they can give Pat a hard day

[1:12:57] to get here decided off it's not on Larry's end of things the money that was

[1:13:04] spent was for the equipment so they wanted half of it up front to

[1:13:10] pay for the equipment and Pat has been storing that

[1:13:15] his expense in time and taking up his warehouse for the town because when you

[1:13:22] asked if I want delivery of it here it's big stuff and we didn't have a

[1:13:28] place and I'm sure Mike didn't want me to start and figure out so he's he's

[1:13:33] been holding on to that stuff he wants to get it out of there as soon as he can

[1:13:37] when you buy from Miracle equipment this is sole source

[1:13:42] So when you buy from Miracle equipment because that's what the stuff was and

[1:13:47] that's what the insurance company has sent it's all taxpayers money if you

[1:13:51] want to get down to it that way but this has been an insurance plan okay so it

[1:13:55] wasn't like we took revenue from the individuals in the town this is an

[1:14:00] insurance plan it's been said half of the money was paid for in the

[1:14:05] contract to purchase the equipment and get it here the other half is for

[1:14:09] installation of the equipment that will be paid at the end of the job okay when

[1:14:14] you buy from Miracle equipment they're thing is that when they bring two to

[1:14:22] three employees from Miracle equipment to make sure that it's set up the right

[1:14:28] way that was this tension the right way torque the right way and they care so in

[1:14:34] the cost of buying Miracle equipment playground equipment

[1:14:38] it's built in that you get two to three people to help set the stuff up it's in

[1:14:45] the cost of the playground apparently don't pay extra for it

[1:14:48] so there was a question a month or so ago if we hired a contractor that don't

[1:14:54] know how to put it together why did we hire the contractor and that's what I

[1:14:59] asked Pat and how it goes that's not on me he goes we'll we'll come put it

[1:15:03] together he goes but you already paid for when you buy medical equipment that

[1:15:09] is part of the price of the equipment is they come out to make sure they tension

[1:15:13] everything Target right and that it's safe and also box up the warranty

[1:15:20] that way they can't stay we can't they can't say to us you throw it together

[1:15:25] and then we're not warrantying it because it wasn't done correctly so

[1:15:31] that is another question you just asked me that's where we're at

[1:15:36] um I can show you the emails back and forth the ones forward what's confusing

[1:15:41] Kevin this says if you remember right when this happened

[1:15:48] you are just going to award the work to this particular contractor

[1:15:54] I insisted it go out to bid okay so he bits this

[1:16:01] then he Subs it out someone else because he's not really qualified to do

[1:16:06] the job so then all of a sudden now we have another contractor involved

[1:16:12] so you didn't listen to anything this is wrong it's over two years

[1:16:19] it's ridiculous he did not sub the workout to anybody it is part of the

[1:16:24] cost of the playground equipment is they come out to make sure it's put together

[1:16:29] correctly I at the end of that I just stated that that wasn't the case okay I

[1:16:36] don't tell Miracle equipment what to do I don't even tell Pat Leary what to do

[1:16:40] okay um all I do is find out the information

[1:16:43] okay and again yes it was a long time yes you are

[1:16:49] correct when I contacted the insurance company the insurance company uses surf

[1:16:55] roll normally they lose them and they couldn't get anybody to come up here

[1:17:00] into our area so after a month or back and forth

[1:17:06] the insurance adjuster asked if I could find somebody locally here that would do

[1:17:11] the work I called around to everybody not just him and nobody does vandalism

[1:17:18] repair here as far as Leary's

[1:17:24] when Pat found out about it he goes I will help the town out he goes I do not

[1:17:29] do vandalism but he goes because you know the talent I will help you he goes

[1:17:35] I don't do it I don't put my name out there that I do vandalism work because

[1:17:39] nobody around here does but he goes I will

[1:17:42] take care of the playground equipment for you if you can't find anybody else

[1:17:47] so I contacted the insurance company they were fine with that they cut the

[1:17:51] check okay

[1:17:54] and to be honest with you again I learn every day

[1:17:59] if we'd lock the check in a checked form and gave it directly to Mr Leary

[1:18:06] then there would have been no issues at all

[1:18:09] but being that I didn't want a 60 something thousand dollar check hanging

[1:18:13] around I had Mary put it in the general fund

[1:18:17] once you put it in the general fund then it is considered part of revenue for the

[1:18:24] town that's why we had to put it out to bid

[1:18:28] not we didn't have to because I contacted several lawyers and our lawyer

[1:18:33] even contacted the association of the town they said that's a gray area

[1:18:37] because it's an insurance shop it wasn't really factors money that was

[1:18:42] you're using to fix this it's insurance money but they said so that there's no

[1:18:47] issues and nobody can complain about like you just did they said put it out

[1:18:52] to bed and then there is no compliance because then you satisfied everything

[1:18:56] that you have to by the Comptroller's office

[1:18:59] and that's exactly what I did I put it out the bit again that was Leary was the

[1:19:04] only one that bit on the project and he was awarded that contract

[1:19:11] so again that's where we're at

[1:19:20] okay I'm not an old cap why can't we or somebody on our end get a hold of

[1:19:26] this company and say hey it's been two years is there any possible way you can

[1:19:31] give us an approximate answer to when you are going to send some of your

[1:19:36] personnel here so we can get this taken care of and that's why he keeps on

[1:19:39] forwarding the emails to me okay and I have that in on the emails but he's he

[1:19:45] forwards exactly what he goes to Robert that way he he know it's not just the

[1:19:51] email Pat's saying that's right this is the email he sent it to the company and

[1:19:55] like I told you there's been a 50 something different and I'm not saying

[1:19:59] that why could we act ourselves

[1:20:05] to see what they're going to give us direct for an answer

[1:20:08] instead of going through Pat which Pat is busy too Pat's tied up with the seven

[1:20:14] businesses he's all kinds of Titans right so why don't we get a phone number

[1:20:18] a contact number get a hold of somebody there or an email and say hey this is we

[1:20:23] are the town of Schuyler files we are the problem we are the ones with the

[1:20:27] problem we would like this equipment taken care of for our children in the

[1:20:31] town and the taxpayers can you please give us

[1:20:35] a direct answer or approximate answer oh when you're going to be here yeah and

[1:20:40] and again I have been in on those emails so

[1:20:44] that is the answer that we would get that as soon as we can schedule it

[1:20:49] matter of fact they were talking like I said the week off starting the week of

[1:20:54] June 19th the last time he just sent me one two days ago that he had said him I

[1:20:58] didn't get in the middle of that one but he goes yes he goes I understand because

[1:21:02] even Mr Leary said I'm getting pressured by the town

[1:21:07] to get this thing done so I really could appreciate a date and that's what he

[1:21:12] said he goes as fast as I can get caught out where you are on the list they're

[1:21:17] still catching up from Colvin everybody is yeah and you know what it's like

[1:21:22] trying to hire help so I I can't tell a private company

[1:21:28] we can go ahead and do it without them

[1:21:36] we already paid for it why did you want to do that yeah and then something

[1:21:40] happens and they're not going to stand behind them at all and we're going to

[1:21:44] have the lawsuit on us so like I said I mean I can jump up and down until I'm

[1:21:48] right in the face but it's not going to make him more time in the day you know

[1:21:53] what I mean so as long as we're not getting jumped by any other than I I can

[1:21:57] send an email to that effect are we still in the order of the lesson that

[1:22:01] you are getting the work done because I've seen the emails from April on it

[1:22:06] and he does I was hoping and that's what he'll say I was hoping to get there by

[1:22:11] June 19. the last one he was hoping to get here by the end of this week so now

[1:22:16] we're down to weeks so

[1:22:20] I don't think it I don't know so yeah I mean that was part of the

[1:22:27] contract it would be better to even I mean I know Mr facto wants to get it

[1:22:31] done ASAP but you have to have that Park closed for two weeks to three weeks and

[1:22:37] with everything coming up is that a great idea how about the Woods news

[1:22:42] would would there anything be anything stopping that

[1:22:52] but I don't I don't believe and I don't know what they need to do I don't set up

[1:22:57] playground equipment but I don't believe that we'd have to close the whole part

[1:23:01] we might have to ribbon off a section that they're working on at that point in

[1:23:06] time um I don't want to call them up I grew

[1:23:10] again and honestly Donna you you and I see how many people use that every day

[1:23:17] every day okay but uh like I said I hate to close

[1:23:23] the whole thing down there are times that we can we close it

[1:23:27] like when we're Mowing and rewacking and stuff like that so somebody will get a

[1:23:30] stone in the eye or something but other than that we try to keep it open at

[1:23:34] least during the day hours okay

[1:23:37] here I'll just yeah put it back in the file okay thank you

[1:23:42] yeah like I said all you had to do is ask them to file you didn't have to have

[1:23:47] the Russian no that was the file yeah okay

[1:23:52] okay

[1:23:58] a more pleasant thing to ask about now is this

[1:24:03] this parade activity and the spending of ten thousand dollars for everything

[1:24:09] going on here and my question is

[1:24:13] the naming of the Grand Marshal for the parade

[1:24:19] now I've heard that a couple of people on this board it's never been discussed

[1:24:25] at a board meeting have already came up with naming

[1:24:30] a Grand Marshal of this parade and I fee I had a couple

[1:24:36] of names myself that I wanted to put in consideration for that

[1:24:42] and all of a sudden I hear recently that

[1:24:47] the board has already decided who the Grand Marshal is

[1:24:51] we've never had a work session we have never discussed this ever

[1:24:58] and I think it should be a town board decision we're spending ten thousand

[1:25:04] dollars on all this activity most of it is down here in this section

[1:25:10] of town where I live Salmon River Road area

[1:25:14] there's nothing going on up there at our Salmon River bark there's no musical

[1:25:20] events going up there why is that

[1:25:24] as a board we're spending ten thousand dollars on these activities but nothing

[1:25:29] up there everything here and then to take it a step further and

[1:25:35] hear this about someone has been named already

[1:25:40] for Grand Marshal of this anniversary

[1:25:45] and it should be a town board discussion it shouldn't be one or two people on the

[1:25:53] town board making a decision oh we're gonna name this person or this

[1:25:59] couple in this case and I think it's wrong I think it should

[1:26:03] have been a town board decision that we should have talked about

[1:26:09] prevents that's quite an honor if there are a few other people in this

[1:26:16] town who should be considered for that and I was quite annoyed when I heard all

[1:26:25] of a sudden oh one or two people on this board have

[1:26:29] named someone that's not right this is a town board we

[1:26:35] all have a voice in this that's upsetting that someone I won't

[1:26:41] mention names we all know who they are but that's fine

[1:26:46] but who is the single person on this board to make the decision of that

[1:26:52] magnitude and that's why I'm upset over it I don't

[1:26:56] think it's right okay so to answer your question

[1:27:02] the board did not make that decision okay that was the committee that made

[1:27:08] that decision book committee the committee that's been working on

[1:27:11] 175th we've had multiple times that we've asked not only the residents of

[1:27:17] this town but this town board to get involved with 175th anniversary we have

[1:27:22] had three meetings already I remember right uh and we've been working through

[1:27:30] all the details honestly

[1:27:38] I was one of them but the committee that was volunteer meeting

[1:27:44] are you going to sit there and let me speak or are you just gonna it should

[1:27:48] have been a town board decision together then where have you been I want to ask

[1:27:52] you that where have you been Reggie and what have you been working on and why

[1:27:56] would I all of a sudden wait a minute I'm asking you a direct question where

[1:28:01] have you been I wasn't when it comes to organizing this thing dog's number okay

[1:28:06] yes you worked and uh we can play the teacher

[1:28:10] and what have you done so far for when I pushed for some of the activities

[1:28:17] at Salmon River Park that would die you all of a sudden there's no power there

[1:28:22] yeah exactly well you know what they make generators that are real quiet you

[1:28:26] can real quiet you cannot get a band

[1:28:31] to play or the generator because it's too much fluctuation then I'm not going

[1:28:37] to burn out their equipment running on a generative I've asked okay that's the

[1:28:43] reason that I did a River Street because that does have it

[1:28:49] and it's in close proximity to keep everybody in the same area

[1:28:53] several people have them working on this burn has been working on it Mr Friday

[1:29:00] has been working on it charm has been working on it and I have been working on

[1:29:05] it okay and they all knew about it just as you

[1:29:09] did that's why I asked where have you been

[1:29:11] and what have you done what have you asked me

[1:29:15] I just asked you a question who made this selection

[1:29:22] Department yes I want you were yep

[1:29:26] why did why didn't you include the rest of the Town board in it because it was

[1:29:32] done at the committee level and all of us have been working on this

[1:29:36] thing you know there's never was a question if you had an issue

[1:29:43] like that all you had to do I don't know about it until two days ago so I heard

[1:29:47] it so you didn't know that we're gonna have a Grand Marshal because that's the

[1:29:51] it would say you found out and that's when you're high again stay involved get

[1:29:57] involved with the town listen if it's okay with the town board

[1:30:13] that's a part on questioning Kevin so all you had to do was get involved

[1:30:20] everybody else on this board our next work session we can all submit names

[1:30:27] and let's talk about it well I'm not doing that I'll tell you that flat out

[1:30:31] right now why is because we have already asked and have already accepted so that

[1:30:37] that horse has left the bark that was a mistake on your part not a

[1:30:43] mistake of my part oh sure sure it was this thing okay let's move on something

[1:30:49] else that's fine you can pick up something else Reggie that you don't

[1:30:53] like but get involved that's all I think it should have been a town board

[1:30:57] decision okay do we noted

[1:31:02] you've said that before yeah I only noted that you think that all you had to

[1:31:07] do was get involved period just get involved

[1:31:12] with her deal okay a couple other minor things okay uh

[1:31:19] Mike this kind of concerns you actually two of them do

[1:31:23] um I had a call from Jack gloat and as you know he owns a property at

[1:31:30] the beginning of Macy Lane and there was some ditching done there

[1:31:35] uh probably prior to you taking over you know when they put ditches in on the

[1:31:41] west side of Macy Lane

[1:31:44] in front of the apartment buildings there's a dish I'm

[1:31:50] Mike are you familiar with what I'm talking

[1:31:53] uh yeah amazing but what right the ditching on the West

[1:32:00] Side amazing Lane with Colbert pipes that were put in there years ago

[1:32:06] his request is he would like to know if he could get them on the east side and

[1:32:13] in front of his apartment buildings his claim is is that a multitude of

[1:32:19] water is going down onto its property and he'd like to ask about that

[1:32:29] well what do you know incriminating me or dogs

[1:32:33] not at all not at all Mike I've already talked to the gentleman I said I'll do

[1:32:38] the best I can but

[1:32:42] it up yeah that's fine okay that's all but

[1:32:46] that's uh he's talking about an overwatching the driver accepted like

[1:32:49] that to begin with it but it's been nothing but a right you know a swamp

[1:32:53] anyway and now he wants me because I'm in the

[1:32:57] seat now right by it right and I I don't know I mean it's okay so I'm not aware

[1:33:04] of it I mean what you're talking about so what is it can you expand upon it and

[1:33:10] so that the rest of us know what's going on

[1:33:12] okay on Macy Lane and like you said it's a

[1:33:16] high water table area on the west side of Macy Lane there were

[1:33:21] Culvert pipes put in in front of his apartment complex there on the west side

[1:33:28] on the east side there's there's no ditching or there's

[1:33:33] no culbert fight I don't even know if that East Side was built at the time

[1:33:37] yeah you know for sure but I think Mike what do you want just before me is your

[1:33:43] help because it's Town property that's why

[1:33:48] and he was wondering if he could get culverts in there I I believe I'm not

[1:33:54] promising anything so would you take it I don't know why

[1:33:57] that wasn't done properly at the time right right it's very I

[1:34:03] don't even I don't know so where again I'm still alive

[1:34:24] the other side above the swamp and I don't know how that he got their mother

[1:34:29] to end to begin with because it's always been swamp

[1:34:42] um

[1:34:53] it's not just the runoff on the road

[1:35:01] where I'm going with that the week three the whole

[1:35:05] [Music]

[1:35:12] I don't know unless you a 10-foot ditch I live there there if

[1:35:19] you get to the wooded area before you get to the houses there's been a ditch

[1:35:22] there for years yeah but where he's talking about the ground level is it

[1:35:27] Road level in the winter time between the first and second house the water

[1:35:31] runs right out in the middle of the road creates nothing but ice yeah because

[1:35:34] your guys run into it every day from the property now the properties

[1:35:42] right down the road and it creates houses all the way down and it's if it's

[1:35:47] if it's 100 150 feet you're lucky that he's the ditches would have to be it'd

[1:35:54] be halfway from the second between the first and second one to this side

[1:35:58] because there is a ditch already there in the world further down in the wooded

[1:36:03] area

[1:36:07] part of the ditch yes it's ordinary but it's a drainage ditch because it fills

[1:36:11] up every spring because the culverts they have to come hang out all the time

[1:36:15] yeah no but we do

[1:36:19] Macy Lane that's town from Iris yeah yeah but if you if you're

[1:36:26] ditching her a long air settlement issues

[1:36:31] yeah no I know what you mean it all comes to our cellular

[1:36:36] but Macy Lane both sides on the other side of the County Arizona

[1:36:42] boundaries it's it's cellophone

[1:36:49] or something all right like well let you hook into that because that's your Forte

[1:36:54] I mean you're elected Highway superintendent and you take care of the

[1:36:58] roles that you see fit so no I didn't know I just wanted some background so I

[1:37:02] had no idea you know exactly the best I can I told him that I don't know why

[1:37:07] he's brought up here yeah I mean we could have worked on a work session

[1:37:36] yeah I mean because it's been an issue forever since he since he put them

[1:37:41] places there because we've never ever had water issues there about divorce so

[1:37:46] why he Jennifer was to make why he never got in through all the building codes

[1:37:52] and put his own Culver's in into ditches to the town

[1:37:56] is beyond me now they want to put all the problem on the highway department

[1:38:02] it wasn't there before okay the other issue

[1:38:07] is was brought up at a work session so now

[1:38:12] I'll talk about it uh the situation with that used trailer enclosed trailer

[1:38:19] now is that an issue that's done dead or

[1:38:24] I it's it's sight not it's not completely dead because I don't have one

[1:38:31] but there's been talk that maybe we can just purchase a new one then we don't

[1:38:36] have to worry about an older one I mean there's all used I

[1:38:42] mean we everybody can get used things you know but um

[1:38:48] it's that's something that we grew we're going to bring up later on

[1:38:52] if we're gonna maybe get a new one you know nothing against Mr don't know

[1:38:58] I'm sure I don't know and and not it's not just Mr Donuts because I've been

[1:39:02] working hard myself trying to find a real good used one or you know get a new

[1:39:08] one you know so it's like

[1:39:12] it's not dead yet but if there's a you know if there's any kind of a

[1:39:17] possibility of getting a new one I can help Mike on that why not

[1:39:21] um I get called a New York state comptroller's office and I did talk to

[1:39:25] our guy Kevin out of Glens Falls and being that we're not buying it from

[1:39:34] another town or a dealer

[1:39:38] because you're gonna have to prove so there's no

[1:39:43] even look like it's in you know issues of impropriety and you're not favoring

[1:39:48] one resident in the town all right that you would have to would like us to do

[1:39:55] is to go online and find three at least two three nature quotes

[1:40:02] uh two other Continental trailers roughly the same year and the same size

[1:40:10] I went off and I in I imposed on our town historian

[1:40:16] again and so I always thank her because she worked on it for a whole day trying

[1:40:21] to find a continental trailer

[1:40:24] that was roughly about the same size in the same year we can find a lot of

[1:40:30] trailers out there he suggested that it be the same type

[1:40:35] and make because if worse comes to worse then try

[1:40:40] to find something that's at least comparable but he goes you're gonna end

[1:40:45] up with issues on not anything you shouldn't say issues the thing that you

[1:40:50] would have to look at at that is to make sure that and I'm not a trailer sales

[1:40:54] guy that whatever trailer you compare it to is roughly the same quality

[1:41:00] okay and that's subjective depending on who you are if you buy

[1:41:05] they're from a municipality even if we were to buy it at an auction

[1:41:11] because there is a clause in there for auctions right

[1:41:16] and it was on an auction and we were the highest bidder then okay you're good

[1:41:22] that way or you have to have

[1:41:25] three quotes again from a municipality

[1:41:32] and it doesn't have to be the bed because it's under that dollar threshold

[1:41:37] and it was one thousand one dollar tag and four thousand nine hundred ninety

[1:41:42] nine dollars am I remembering that right I know you got it right there but once

[1:41:46] you hit that threshold then you have to have three quotes okay

[1:41:50] and that's where Covenant of controller's office is

[1:41:54] you do your due diligence if you're going to do that but he goes you want to

[1:41:58] make sure that there is no look of impropriety that you're not favoring

[1:42:03] just one resident or doing them a favor by getting yeah and that was never the

[1:42:08] fact I know that I'm just saying that's that's

[1:42:12] right when you call them they're going to be blunt with you and tell you

[1:42:15] exactly what you have to do that we needed we needed all the research that

[1:42:20] you've been doing one of the things that we found out and I was gonna bring this

[1:42:25] up at a work session but uh you know you brought it up uh one of the other things

[1:42:30] we found out is that the 2005 Continental is

[1:42:35] is no longer

[1:42:38] it's discontinued okay they have a new company that started out

[1:42:44] and don't ask me what year it was all right uh but they don't make that

[1:42:50] company or whatever that made the Continental then no longer exist

[1:42:55] I don't know Parts wise if that is going to be an issue for this thing

[1:43:00] tires like I said we can buy tires um

[1:43:05] it was also discussed um that we make sure

[1:43:12] um I thought that we should make sure if

[1:43:15] we're going to continue with it that we have a New York state inspection done on

[1:43:19] it so that we know it's all ready to hit the road and there's no no

[1:43:25] issues that way so but no final decision has been made okay I'm in the middle of

[1:43:31] trying to get the the best solution that we can and that's

[1:43:37] up to Michael you know like I said on some parts of it just he still wants to

[1:43:41] go with a used trailer or cold weather no uh

[1:43:46] the three new bids that you gave me four months ago three months ago the

[1:43:52] quotes that you gave me there was like the the lowest one was 7 700 so we're

[1:43:58] about four grand away from Vita brand new one so that's a board decision

[1:44:03] and kind of like you whether you want something used or you want something

[1:44:07] that's you know uh it's nothing to do with you are against you no and I don't

[1:44:13] want you it doesn't make any difference I can sell that pretty yeah and I know

[1:44:16] you can too it's just and I appreciate what you're trying to do yeah it's just

[1:44:21] it's a nightmare on our end yeah yeah it's a yeah it's a nightmare uh one

[1:44:27] person complains that you know we did something wrong yeah and and

[1:44:33] you you know how I get hammered every month in here so thanks for bringing

[1:44:39] that up okay it was you know I mean it's fine yeah it was brought up at a work

[1:44:44] session and just created

[1:44:48] and I really didn't know that either no because like I said I I just found out

[1:44:53] all that information I just called I told you guys that I would find out if

[1:44:57] we could do it because I knew that was going to be a nightmare because it was

[1:45:00] yeah private sale okay no matter who we were trying to buy it from but it had

[1:45:05] been a lot simpler if I could have or Barb that came up with another

[1:45:11] Continental trailer the same year in the same size and that's that's what he said

[1:45:15] you can find two more of those yeah and they're comparable and he even said that

[1:45:19] he goes don't take it don't forget to take into consideration if that trailer

[1:45:23] is down in Ohio and it's going to cost you uh 800 bucks to get enough here then

[1:45:28] you can use that as harder if you're reasoning to say well this one's right

[1:45:32] here you know elements save them they're not there to

[1:45:38] to see your own they're just there to help you especially when you fall down

[1:45:42] and ask for their help most of the time that's what I get from him he goes he

[1:45:47] goes you're you're you're too honest you make this a lot of work there you go

[1:45:51] most towns we wouldn't even call down for something like that they would just

[1:45:54] do it I said well I gotta watch the lie that keeps an eye on me here so I got to

[1:45:59] make sure I do it right okay so with that being said though I don't we

[1:46:03] shouldn't hold you you know up up if you've got somebody that you can

[1:46:08] purchase it don't yeah don't feel like you can well it's been sitting in the

[1:46:12] backyard I'm going to move it up front put a for sale sign yeah yeah that's why

[1:46:16] I learned it up yeah I've been working hard with him because I don't want him

[1:46:18] and if I can get something in the interim buying two other coins yeah that

[1:46:25] are comparable that they think is will work for us we did our due diligence and

[1:46:30] they still work out if not then like I said I'm gonna leave that to the full

[1:46:34] board and like decide whether we know that it's about because we don't

[1:46:40] we buy a Mustang contract and we buy them sales tax so it's about four grand

[1:46:45] more to get a Brand number so nothing against yours so I'll let them

[1:46:52] decide okay

[1:46:58] no so all righty I do have well I'll tell you

[1:47:04] I do have one thing actually I'll bring it up to Sam again

[1:47:09] um reference to the pickleball court

[1:47:12] that is got a spot at it pretty good-sized spot and it's really

[1:47:17] dangerous and this thing is really starting to get used a lot again

[1:47:21] um we should do something about it I don't think it's anything you can do

[1:47:24] Mike it's a special kind we looked at that last year didn't we yeah

[1:47:29] boy they're really starting to use it and it's getting worse so I don't know

[1:47:34] what the heck we can do with it um I want to say the contractor uh but I

[1:47:39] did I I know there's a local contractor that now has an asphalt machine or what

[1:47:46] do you call grinder with the asphalt or they can take it down and then just put

[1:47:51] a nice layer on top and then we would have to have it naturally repainted and

[1:47:55] restriped again it's not even painted it's like a

[1:47:59] it's like the football it's like a rubber eye stuff yeah they slip down on

[1:48:02] it so um I'll get with Sam and

[1:48:08] see if it's his Park money we're going to be

[1:48:13] spending so um let me get with Sam and see what he

[1:48:18] wants to do and then at the very least maybe we can

[1:48:23] get an estimate on what it will cost to drying that thing out and uh research

[1:48:30] it shouldn't have did that I mean you and I looked at it Mike was out there

[1:48:33] he's looked at it it's whatever that was they put down for tarmac it did not like

[1:48:42] that last half inch it's just crumbling and breaking away so but it's kind of

[1:48:48] dangerous so yeah sooner we get that done better

[1:48:51] all right so I'll get with Sam and then maybe uh yeah I'll throw you on to come

[1:48:55] anyway so why don't we get a hold of the company and put it down and ask them

[1:48:59] what they for research for Uh Oh you mean like on a warranty you don't even

[1:49:05] not a warranty say hey you guys did this job yeah but that's been more or less

[1:49:09] they put that in way before I got it yeah

[1:49:26] under the bus you guys you guys sorry I didn't realize it but uh whatever that

[1:49:31] last little half inch was I know that there

[1:49:36] is a local company that does have a grinder maybe we can grind that down it

[1:49:39] might be cost effective for you guys to go back out there and do it again

[1:49:43] you know what I mean and then um I'll get with Sam because I know you

[1:49:47] guys did not put the stripes on and all that stuff

[1:49:51] but just in that one little area so I went yeah it was going to be the paint

[1:49:55] or whatever they used no you should have reacted in some other spot no it's

[1:49:59] almost like uh the the stones are coming up you know

[1:50:03] what I mean like there wasn't as much asphalt as should have been in that mix

[1:50:07] and all right again I don't do Paving for 11

[1:50:11] but uh yeah you know maybe we can what's the top coat they call it

[1:50:16] armorical maybe we can do an armor coat which is a

[1:50:21] finer and more dense from what I understand is it not as long as long as

[1:50:27] to me that should be all cut out and taken out

[1:50:31] no no I mean that after it's ground yeah then yeah yeah some kind of harmful

[1:50:37] instead of just a regular basketball Road asphalt on it harder mix it's a

[1:50:42] tighter mix right all right I'll check with Sam on that

[1:50:46] and then I'm going to make uh Sherman committee at one since you brought me

[1:50:50] another issue all right move forward on that now I

[1:50:54] know you brought it up you had people out there and look at last fall so um

[1:50:58] yeah we'll we'll go with that

[1:51:05] I'm done sure anybody else

[1:51:11] nah that was good

[1:51:15] [Music] and I don't need anything else to work

[1:51:19] man all right thanks everybody

[1:51:24] um Mike you got anything out through your highway or did we cover you no no

[1:51:28] I've got I got some stuff go ahead we've been cutting shoulders here and we're

[1:51:32] trying to get a couple roads ready to Pace I've been cutting shoulder and

[1:51:35] brush on them I brought in an agreement for the start

[1:51:40] of the year you know hopefully gentlemen will figure out

[1:51:44] I want you to let me pave there and I'd like to probably do some more

[1:51:49] Paving later August you know or October all right

[1:51:53] maybe you brought that up Michael why don't we

[1:51:55] um because I made copies

[1:51:59] so why don't we let them pull board in on this thing yeah look at it again

[1:52:06] tonight I don't know if they'll be ready to give you a decision tonight but at

[1:52:11] least but whatever they can ask questions and it's uh as far as um the

[1:52:17] chips money for the um

[1:52:20] the highway

[1:52:23] oh did you make them too you got it I got one yeah

[1:52:29] so you made them all Cottage yeah I'm used to doing that all right

[1:52:35] now let's do it

[1:52:39] should be the same before yeah I just gotta make sure I give you the right one

[1:52:43] now yeah

[1:52:48] 235 all right here I think you don't want a beach there now

[1:52:53] [Music]

[1:52:59] 10 cents all right so

[1:53:03] looks like uh basser and RAM you're looking at our bathroom and sulfur I

[1:53:09] will tell you that uh if we do bathroom sofa we're over the

[1:53:13] chips tonight

[1:53:16] um so I don't know can I ask you this we don't normally do partial sections or

[1:53:21] roads but you're you're really you're pretty close to your chips fund would be

[1:53:25] 200 000 I think that we got from them with the 235 thousand

[1:53:30] so um

[1:53:34] how much would you not be able to do I know it's so much of I know you get this

[1:53:38] from the uh Quarry so is that that's probably too hard to ask you a question

[1:53:42] to figure out how much it yeah sulfur you could actually yeah

[1:53:48] and I can but most important now it's July you know

[1:53:57] if I could if you'd let me do basser and RAM

[1:54:01] that's that's a hundred thousand though so that gives me more to play with it

[1:54:07] maybe we can pick up the other road with more later

[1:54:15] not my resolution usually he comes to the board and he has what he wants to do

[1:54:19] for the year you guys signed the contract he can't change it without your

[1:54:24] okay so okay usually it's usually

[1:54:30] no no that's what I'm saying as far as tonight

[1:54:33] um see and I knew that too but it was just

[1:54:38] I knew we didn't have a resolution for it so

[1:54:41] um and Mary said when are you looking out

[1:54:45] how much 200 000 yeah of testimony it was like 203 or something like that I

[1:54:51] got it in my desk online um

[1:54:55] so like I say it's when would you actually

[1:55:01] I'm hoping the end of next month all right and how much how much lead

[1:55:07] time do you need to give the core and and it's not just a quarry because you

[1:55:11] have to let the other challenge right no I understand so we all truck

[1:55:16] together how much lead time do you uh in a couple weeks at least all right yeah

[1:55:22] so if I can get you a decision from this board on what will you go for the July

[1:55:28] is that yeah yeah that way you can get this done you know at the end of August

[1:55:34] or the middle of August maybe the first or definitely by the first week

[1:55:38] Donna say in it too yeah I can't do this twice it's got to be well no the

[1:55:44] agreement is between the board and the New York state law for

[1:55:50] tips funding it has to be in agreement so you can't you can't do more than what

[1:55:55] we allow but we can come back and do a resolution to finish this but maybe we

[1:56:01] can hook this thing up if we can find some other fun I I need to talk to uh

[1:56:05] Mary and find out what you have in your accounts and if you're well and once I

[1:56:12] do that um I can see if you're willing to

[1:56:16] transfer or anything line item transfer anything to make up the thirty thousand

[1:56:21] dollars difference definitely something else

[1:56:24] but I'm not right now I would say you know the 99 definitely is a this board

[1:56:31] wouldn't have a problem with it I don't want to speak for everybody yeah but uh

[1:56:35] situation on some different lines I'd like to set it at that for the year yeah

[1:56:40] so we can't actually vote on it until we get that paperwork correct she's going

[1:56:44] to have a resolution yeah okay so it's a contract you can bring it up again in

[1:56:48] the work session so I can further well that's what I was hoping is that we'll

[1:56:54] have the unanswer totally to add our next work section then we have he's into

[1:56:59] the second one like I usually do because the first work sessions like three or

[1:57:04] four days when I was our meeting yeah so there's not a lot that I need to yeah go

[1:57:10] to work session for whatever I know how to correct the paperwork

[1:57:15] [Music] towns that got a

[1:57:21] collaborate together we'll have an answer earlier in July because we got an

[1:57:25] early meeting wow easy resolution to change that move that

[1:57:31] so you've got a resolution right now you change it to the 18th week ahead of time

[1:57:36] now you want to change it to the 17th

[1:57:41] so yeah so it's early next month yeah either way it's only a day off one way

[1:57:49] or the other way it goes yeah so that's that's kind of priority I mean you don't

[1:57:55] mind but the um yeah we've been changing you know some rotted culverts and stuff

[1:58:00] like that too and ditching how'd you make out what the one and what smells it

[1:58:04] looks like it's all back together yeah that turned out real nice

[1:58:08] real nice I don't know a couple more knew about that one but we were up there

[1:58:12] real bad I was up there putting the hero signs up and uh one of the line trucks

[1:58:18] went right through our call work going into the Mills Park yeah right through

[1:58:23] the axle so we end up getting some real good service uh shared servers from

[1:58:27] carliesta County yeah and we're gonna in turn trade

[1:58:32] a couple trucks service from scholar Falls

[1:58:35] for their Manpower and their expertise you know I mean all in the shared

[1:58:40] service so it's it's it was worth every they brought up excavator or something

[1:58:46] like that yeah that's our first thing I told Carl

[1:58:53] hey that was a lot of two and a half or three foot covert up there 30 30 inches

[1:58:58] 30 inches of 80 feet man it was a lot that's an awful stretch so

[1:59:04] it actually I think it's the biggest one I've ever done since I've been with him

[1:59:08] I'm glad that went well that they were able to help us

[1:59:14] with uh what else you got

[1:59:19] um uh the the new the new loader came in

[1:59:25] everything on it is really nice but there's been some kind of

[1:59:30] typographic error from the recopy of like last October or November of last

[1:59:36] year when we were going to start to put in

[1:59:40] the order for that new loader of course it didn't even go at the end

[1:59:45] of 2022 but January this year in dead and gentlemen proved everything

[1:59:52] while there was supposed to be an exact rewrite of the contract

[1:59:56] from the first one to January of this year

[2:00:02] and there wasn't there was a mistake

[2:00:06] there's two little levers that run the bucket

[2:00:10] should have been a joist there and that's I don't know

[2:00:15] you guys probably understand what I'm talking about but

[2:00:18] you need a joyster there was a type error in the contract

[2:00:23] because it was almost been identical from 2022 written up

[2:00:27] the dish to this year is in January so we're in the middle and everything

[2:00:32] looks real good John Deere's

[2:00:36] working real hard to rectify it with the talent

[2:00:42] um so basically if I understand that when I

[2:00:46] was talking to him up there that day and then with you after yeah you got three

[2:00:51] joysticks on that yeah well the third one is the third one is for the utensils

[2:00:55] yeah if you play solar machine not when you don't need unless it's a little

[2:00:59] Widener and then there's two joysticks individual for raising and lowering the

[2:01:04] bowl or for curl in the bucket it's very 1960. and they want most of your guys

[2:01:10] want just a single yeah yeah so it's you know it

[2:01:16] has to be done John Deere is going to rectify it

[2:01:20] best they can they say you tell you tell your timeline how long you're going to

[2:01:24] be fixing them well when when things get situated

[2:01:29] it's going to be almost a two-day process and they'll be coming down here

[2:01:34] and it'll end up be just like from the factory are they letting you use it now

[2:01:39] yeah yeah so that's something they can retrofit to

[2:01:43] the machine we got yeah yeah just like being at the factory when it's done

[2:01:47] they'll just take out the triple and you know move it to yeah the one you need

[2:01:52] yeah is there any more cost time yes it's thirty five hundred dollars

[2:01:57] but there there is going to be

[2:02:03] I'm not sure but they're doing all the labor

[2:02:06] because of the of the misunderstanding the type error

[2:02:10] error from one contract to another now on your old contract

[2:02:15] yeah was it thirty five hundred dollars more than this one I

[2:02:20] do you have copies I I gotta I'd have to go back and look

[2:02:25] I think I'd be looking at that because if you ordered it and you got X number

[2:02:29] of dollars that they told you it was going to be they shouldn't be charging

[2:02:33] you 3 500 or more for their mistake yeah yeah see but then again I'm gonna admit

[2:02:40] slice perfect for the camera and everything

[2:02:44] in January when they read read wrote the contract was supposed to have

[2:02:50] been the same as in 2022 I didn't find line Beckett

[2:02:57] Soul you know and I'm guilty as hell I was just gonna say that because I'm not

[2:03:03] perfect whatever has to be done you need to do it you know

[2:03:08] yeah it's the same thing with the fire truck I feel I feel this iron once you

[2:03:13] initial that that's why they build it is to whatever you've initial when you go

[2:03:19] through the final

[2:03:29] as is so um though the one thing that I did talk to

[2:03:35] is there any other salesman or can we use his name

[2:03:38] no I'm sure no he's willing to come here anytime so when I talk to Jesse he said

[2:03:44] that there was a 500 increase to that loader from

[2:03:49] year to year so I'm lying to you it was for the the service the uh extended

[2:03:57] contract Service no not the service that's another one we're gonna look at

[2:04:01] that information too um

[2:04:04] it was a 500 increase for the five-year extended warranty that's built into the

[2:04:10] contract so he took the 500 off the price of the machine because we've

[2:04:16] got the five feet because he made his shot

[2:04:19] that was in there and the amount the same time

[2:04:26] um question that actually you had last time with the service

[2:04:34] and Ken I did speak to him about that he sent me two calls

[2:04:38] a three-year quote was a little over five grand

[2:04:41] five year quote was doing to Sahara or I should say hello it was right nine

[2:04:47] thousand but that includes

[2:04:50] the work for driving them out here he goes you're better off to do that than

[2:04:55] to do the regular service plan that they do where they you have to pay I think

[2:05:00] it's 150 175 an hour even while he's driving

[2:05:04] all down here yeah that's the whole Syracuse so this one is all inclusive so

[2:05:09] to speak it pays for all normal stuff anything that isn't

[2:05:15] normal our extended warranty is going to pay

[2:05:18] for us so basically the guys up there wouldn't have to touch this thing for

[2:05:21] five years they would do everything the warranty work to the service of it that

[2:05:27] includes the oils the Lubes the natural your weekly greasing or whatever

[2:05:34] you're gonna have to keep up on it but they'll freeze it

[2:05:37] um the filters air filter everything in is in that service contract

[2:05:43] to break that up it's probably well worth the 1500 bucks

[2:05:48] I mean this on the front rear end axles Because by the time yeah when they drain

[2:05:53] the fluids up and replace it by the time we buy all that stuff and then

[2:05:58] you know I don't know what the difference is I I can get uh

[2:06:03] estimates or whatever cost to do that well we we do the we do

[2:06:10] the same now at the fire station it's all talking about that way no liability

[2:06:16] back on anybody and that guarantees that again your warranty

[2:06:22] they have to warranty it because they're doing all the service on it so they

[2:06:26] can't say we didn't know the guy Jesse was very good about it he goes hey you

[2:06:30] know we understand stuff goes wrong if you if you have to you know replace a

[2:06:35] bolt or bushing or bearing it or whatever he

[2:06:40] goes and you do it he goes or whatever or cable he goes whatever he goes the

[2:06:45] state the guys want to do it he goes it doesn't stop you under the the extended

[2:06:51] warranty you're doing it he goes we still trust

[2:06:55] you to do that because matter of fact if you tell us a cost or whatever the park

[2:06:59] is going to pay for your labor but we'll

[2:07:01] pay for the park if you guys it's something simple where you don't want to

[2:07:05] wait four or five days for somebody to come down and do it for something simple

[2:07:09] it goes we'll work with you guys damn well we'll write it down that we okay

[2:07:15] so I I think it's well worth getting it myself and I would do it for the full

[2:07:19] five years but we'll have to do a

[2:07:23] I think that one is under goods and services and I think I'm

[2:07:28] as long that and that's sole service Full Source

[2:07:32] I think that's a good way for doing that one for that dollar amount but uh I'll

[2:07:37] check what Ollie is when I get everything I'll send you guys all the

[2:07:42] um both emails of three and five year warranty and then if we want to do it

[2:07:49] under a resolution I just don't know he said it wasn't like we had to do it

[2:07:56] and decide right now before we took the machine but he got it better sooner than

[2:08:00] later because don't let it carry on for months that's all for the service

[2:08:04] contact because they know it's brand new and they know that right now they'd be

[2:08:08] the only ones working for those prices so

[2:08:12] of course comes the worst that'll be July but hopefully you don't need

[2:08:15] anything I'll get everything together for

[2:08:19] everybody

[2:08:23] I jumped in the middle of you again I'm sorry Michael go ahead no that's all

[2:08:27] right that's um that covers that that was priority I had

[2:08:31] to get that out all right so that begged a a question

[2:08:35] from this board 3 500 I know even as a department had he

[2:08:43] can okay um

[2:08:45] so you know like is there any questions with the board for Annie no

[2:08:52] no I don't want this done before we go through that way

[2:09:00] hook it up okay perfect

[2:09:07] all right well yeah I I a matter of fact can call

[2:09:11] me this morning Jesse

[2:09:14] and of course tonight I got it Mary's not here so she can't fax him the tax

[2:09:19] exempt yeah you've got a hold of me too he I don't yeah so I told him done he

[2:09:27] got it he got it yeah I told him that we don't use a tax

[2:09:31] certificate we send a voucher out with our tax and our TIN number on it so he

[2:09:35] was good yeah that's what I you know but he called today so we gave it to you

[2:09:40] yeah good because he didn't call me back because I told him I said man he's not

[2:09:45] there I said but there's a couple other real good health helpers you know

[2:09:55] all right so that's perfect we've got that taken care of

[2:09:59] um and I don't know why

[2:10:02] okay

[2:10:06] um safety and code cell phones

[2:10:17] um layer 8 is supposed to be giving me a

[2:10:22] new quote because a quote that I had before was from CIT you got those

[2:10:28] initials right uh CTS easy

[2:10:33] so uh like I said as soon as they get back to me

[2:10:38] they usually work and quote me but I think through somehow

[2:10:44] through Spectrum for that so um

[2:10:49] I'll find out matter of fact I'll make myself a note

[2:11:00] I think we were down uh five as long as nobody on the board

[2:11:11] what else you got Emily that was it boy you were easy

[2:11:18] uh Town Club nothing like uh it's even easier accessor uh I

[2:11:25] want to speak Forum but I'll say that he just got the equalization rates and the

[2:11:31] equalization array um where we came in we're right with

[2:11:36] everybody else so as far as doing a uh no assessment and going to 100 assessed

[2:11:43] value like Italian the state wants us to do

[2:11:47] um we really don't see where

[2:11:50] between him and I where it's gonna you know make a big benefit

[2:11:54] on the other hand if we do a full assessment value right

[2:11:58] now that would be your new assessment and even though that housing bubble

[2:12:03] starting to collapse right now and sorry with the high prices it's not like like

[2:12:08] uh happy it's going to be higher than it was but this it's not at that that

[2:12:12] Medium so

[2:12:15] um as far as that goes we'll visit it again in September

[2:12:20] um and like I told you we're right with

[2:12:25] everybody else 75 78 77 percent up to the equalization rate was worth it

[2:12:32] matter of fact I won't mention the account but one of the other towns after

[2:12:36] talking to Gary and knowing that we held out all the way through he's like I'm

[2:12:41] not doing anything this year because there are towns that have dead three

[2:12:46] assessments back to back the last three years and even though the towns don't

[2:12:52] take everything they're not talking badly about them I

[2:12:56] will our assessor will tell you his feelings about uh the school districts

[2:13:01] will suck up every new bit of assessed value

[2:13:05] [Music] and utilize it or the towns are a little

[2:13:09] uh more we don't need all that they will take it

[2:13:14] up so uh that's what I got to say on that

[2:13:19] um playing board I got nothing dog control

[2:13:23] I will tell you uh close and busy I've called them on a

[2:13:28] couple for some people that called me and dogs I just know that he's been out

[2:13:32] running around chasing some matter of fact he also called down here to get a

[2:13:37] license number so he could uh deliver the dog to the owner and they were

[2:13:41] reunited so he's been uh he's been busy uh

[2:13:48] her attorney was excused tonight before you get to me historian yeah let

[2:13:55] me just talk a little bit of History I think I've seen more people coming in

[2:13:58] with questions about history just because it's summertime and people are

[2:14:02] thinking of things and we had actually somebody stopped in

[2:14:07] many times they asked about the mid-1800s which we don't have a lot of

[2:14:11] information on I did get a thank you note

[2:14:14] um

[2:14:17] somebody said um let me quote history has to be saved and near the

[2:14:23] front line of savings history and included a 20 check which goes into the

[2:14:27] town of cell of all his costumes so anyway that was good

[2:14:34] then legally and legally we're obligated to have

[2:14:38] somebody in the historians

[2:14:42] as we go forward um and Kevin will talk about this shirt

[2:14:47] all the other things said and to mess around with

[2:14:51] in terms of quite messing around you've been doing a lot of work

[2:14:55] but I do have some flyers too so anything you know I put stuff out here

[2:14:59] as you as Kevin talks about the music probably in the 175th so which is a

[2:15:07] history animation all right thank you

[2:15:15] I'm sure

[2:15:20] my hand needs out just to get it out of the way

[2:15:24] get back okay so FEMA

[2:15:28] um finally gave me a copy of everything that changed and what they said we

[2:15:34] didn't

[2:15:37] come up with for a good enough reasons or as I didn't have to change it because

[2:15:41] they wanted us to do our own lidar and hire somebody to do that but they did it

[2:15:46] did take several web

[2:15:51] Zoom meetings that we had for the supervisors and local supervisors that

[2:15:57] were affected by this this new FEMA map for the 1A flood stage and

[2:16:06] they did accept that we put in a challenge to it when we put in the

[2:16:10] challenge we're supposed to hire somebody and give them like

[2:16:14] dot that this is why they're wrong they

[2:16:18] didn't make us go that far they took a lot of our our experience in our history

[2:16:24] of where the flights had been and more areas they did affect and they

[2:16:31] shrunk back quite a bit of area that they were going

[2:16:36] to consider to be one of one a flood zone again this is something that far

[2:16:42] hardcore over the last almost two years now when this first came out because

[2:16:46] it's been back and forth between FEMA and us and the state

[2:16:50] for quite a while and I figured that FEMA being FEMA is

[2:16:56] going to say yep we appreciate it have a good day this is your map but they did

[2:17:00] they honestly they they worked with us so this is again

[2:17:05] a copy of the compromises Michael um

[2:17:11] and what they did pull back on which again I appreciate their help with this

[2:17:17] I appreciate everything you're listening to us uh Kelly Donnie was in on that at

[2:17:22] uh emergency services that helped with some

[2:17:26] of the data and some of the stuff that we needed to show

[2:17:31] you here we never had a emergency management issue there so

[2:17:36] um I I couldn't stop all of the property that they were looking to but we did cut

[2:17:42] back a ton of it and a ton of it just here in the village alone because

[2:17:46] originally they had the 180 flood State all the way up to Alexander's church

[2:17:51] over here incorporated or part of it all of like

[2:17:54] the Red Cross building over there is nice of Columbus all right so we got him

[2:17:58] to pull it back put away as I said you know we've got to go down 22b and dump

[2:18:02] back in you know this other Bridge so we never had it that 100 year flood so

[2:18:09] um that's I want to give you that update uh one on some of it this is important

[2:18:14] to the town for retail of homes and it's important

[2:18:19] to the resident because

[2:18:24] before this thing gets made official and everyone little property owners were

[2:18:29] aware of this not only from a letter from us down here at the town for me

[2:18:33] on behalf of the board and from FEMA if they get insurance before it becomes an

[2:18:40] on paper then they get grandfathered in as a cheaper rate than it will be after

[2:18:47] it is a final map then they'll go and say okay here we go and this is

[2:18:53] so again did the best they could for them I

[2:18:58] didn't get all everything that I wanted but

[2:19:00] I got I did help so

[2:19:04] um this is the monthly on Friends of the North country

[2:19:13] that's on the 200 did you get a copy though

[2:19:17] you got one yeah three of them I got them

[2:19:25] okay so anyways um

[2:19:31] it's our mother report there's still not a lot different from the last month

[2:19:37] they're still working with the uh I'm not mistaken you know 13 property owners

[2:19:43] so they'll work the way through this at some point in time I'm gonna have to go

[2:19:47] over there and do a site visit and I'm also going to have to do

[2:19:51] um

[2:19:55] dive into a folder

[2:19:58] they haven't asked for any money yet so we're not even we're not close or

[2:20:04] they're what again once they ask for money that's on

[2:20:07] our end to work with them together to make sure we don't have it here more in

[2:20:11] five days I got dinged on the other one for that one that they did back in 2017

[2:20:17] so anyways

[2:20:20] work in progress everything still working

[2:20:41] yeah okay I think we killed this enough that

[2:20:45] Reggie brought it up I'm gonna deal with this but that's a

[2:20:49] couple of the emails back and forth uh on the playground equipment unless

[2:20:53] you've got any questions yeah

[2:21:03] uh okay Donna did some checking too with Val

[2:21:07] over at the town of Plattsburgh just to get some preliminary work done ahead of

[2:21:12] time if we do go into edu's we haven't decided what we're going to go

[2:21:18] um they do have the program and to

[2:21:24] bill over there at the town of Plattsburgh

[2:21:30] um if we do it by meter we only do it by um edu they naturally redo the alpha one

[2:21:38] is the only one you do here right yeah the other two are the amazing Lane and

[2:21:43] what's the mouse

[2:21:58] software so um basically

[2:22:02] they're they're able to do that um as far as if they had to do a

[2:22:09] software update because of ours then we would be

[2:22:13] responsible for the software update but right now she believes that it will work

[2:22:18] and if we do have to do a software if we decide to go to uh edu's from Monticello

[2:22:23] we'll do that and again they would do the billing at that point over there

[2:22:29] so just some FYI so I'm still working through the trials and tribulations on

[2:22:35] that water project

[2:22:39] um music in the park

[2:22:42] we ended up because of the torrential downpours that we had on the 24th uh

[2:22:47] rescheduling that one that was put out on the website

[2:22:51] um and it was all on Facebook and it was put on

[2:23:05] he sent me another date already to play so he's he was agreeable

[2:23:13] uh just back in another night and doing it so we'll either do a Friday or a

[2:23:18] Sunday so we'll have until I guess a regular Saturday whatever weekend that

[2:23:24] is and I think he's looking for a date in July uh that he gave me if I remember

[2:23:28] right right number um we'll have it either a Friday and

[2:23:32] Saturday that weekend or Saturday Sunday depending on the date it is but he he

[2:23:37] didn't charge us for in the contract he could have charged us a certain amount

[2:23:41] even if we canceled that he's dead a lot and he's got a couple more to do for us

[2:23:47] I was willing to work with us on that hopefully

[2:23:50] last year as soon as you've never he should have knocked down Woods because

[2:23:54] we didn't have that problem anymore last year but we did this year

[2:23:58] um so all the the dates are filled as of this time all the Saturdays so uh July

[2:24:05] 1st will be the next one two tell String Band uh Saturday July 8th uh kicking up

[2:24:11] dust country we'll be there

[2:24:16] um Saturday July 15th uh John Chino uh Saturday July 22nd is town meeting

[2:24:22] that was there were one that we had last year and they had a good following

[2:24:29] um Saturday uh July 22nd

[2:24:34] uh was like I said take down meeting uh Saturday August 5th is model 97. uh

[2:24:43] Saturday August 12th is a bootleg ban in um

[2:24:47] you might have heard us talking earlier uh I asked nice scopa which is the

[2:24:51] officers Resurgence Union up at um the State Office of services Union

[2:24:57] for docs they sponsored Blue Lake last year I asked if

[2:25:02] they do it again this year so they contributed the 595 for blue leg band so

[2:25:07] that doesn't cost us at all and I appreciate their uh continued support

[2:25:12] they've been great to us uh Saturday August 13th tunes of time

[2:25:17] that's DJ that's Nick is doing that that night

[2:25:21] um Saturday August 19th is Neil Gillespie

[2:25:28] and it's a country uh one man guy where he had a heck of a fall in last time too

[2:25:34] uh last year and then Saturday August 26th Tuesday times karaoke now um

[2:25:40] nickel probably do our MC for the 175th also I think he is open I just want to

[2:25:48] see something right but uh he's been really great to the town and there's

[2:25:54] Flyers back here the whole list which is posted around if anybody has a place

[2:25:59] they want to post them and then we also put out individuals so this is for uh

[2:26:05] two tall String Band for Saturday and then kick enough dust country on the

[2:26:10] following side so we're kind of have individuals every

[2:26:13] writing two weeks in advance too okay uh marshmallow Waters finishing up the rest

[2:26:20] of the band paperwork [Music]

[2:26:23] um probably after talking to everybody yeah

[2:26:27] it should probably be done no later than our July meeting

[2:26:32] to get that ban out so we'll have that paperwork ready for a resolution or I

[2:26:38] don't need a resolution

[2:26:41] um paperwork delay for July and I'll keep everybody up to date on that like I

[2:26:47] said that's the construction loan uh basically

[2:26:54] Mason Lane um like I talked about during the work

[2:27:00] session they oh everybody I talked to uh suggestion

[2:27:06] we read bid it um without a seven day period but like a

[2:27:10] 30-day start work period so that's what we're going to do with that and I'll get

[2:27:15] everything together on the engineer side of things to make sure that that goes

[2:27:22] out so again we're going to re-bid that project and I'm just waiting for uh

[2:27:29] Barton La Judas and Laberge to get me a new contract everything else

[2:27:35] should be pretty simple because it hasn't changed in a month and a half

[2:27:38] other than that was one of the big things the start date so same thing with

[2:27:43] the garage floor we'll put that out there and we'll do a

[2:27:49] really I don't don't hold me for 30 days because I'm going to talk to the

[2:27:53] engineers but that's what the contractors and most of the and what I

[2:27:57] hear would like to see first started so yeah I'll talk to them about it and then

[2:28:02] I'll get back to the board before I do put it out there to let you know

[2:28:06] um

[2:28:14] um

[2:28:16] that's why it's bad just still moving

[2:28:22] and um 175th anniversary

[2:28:26] so um 175th anniversary we're moving along

[2:28:30] on that um

[2:28:37] oh might work on uh the petting zoo and uh

[2:28:44] the wagon rides um I put way too much on Barbie again

[2:28:49] putting out stuff but uh she um I I again had her

[2:28:55] um got the lesson with Katie Bell on

[2:28:59] the parade and how they do it so we didn't have to reinvent the wheel and

[2:29:05] those have been out a couple weeks now just about so we we've got some coming

[2:29:10] in already

[2:29:14] as far as the

[2:29:18] things that we're going to do we're looking at uh food and food vendors

[2:29:24] I'm thinking the two parties wanted to do and I say parties the Democratic

[2:29:29] party the Republican Party were thinking about selling some type of food items

[2:29:35] there for fundraisers that day I got a phone call from Sean up at the

[2:29:41] landfill from Casella's and when she found out how big this was he uh because

[2:29:47] I really don't want to compete against the town nor do I want to compete

[2:29:52] against account so he goes uh if you're willing to

[2:29:57] accept us coming down here we'd like to help

[2:30:00] so they he's already pledged that rather than setting up up there that

[2:30:06] they usually do he's got a couple bouncy house things and he's already got a 30

[2:30:12] by 60 uh tent I wouldn't have to a lot of stuff that we the committee's been

[2:30:19] working on um that we were gonna yeah

[2:30:27] so again with the help of Casella and any other business in town that wants to

[2:30:33] help out it's making this thing better all the time with less cost on

[2:30:39] our so um again I'll let you guys know as we move forward what is going to

[2:30:46] happen but basically uh Saturday the parade will start at noon uh

[2:30:54] two o'clock which is two hours they get a parade in King it'll last an hour and

[2:30:58] a half so I want to make sure we can start the ceremony too early so at two

[2:31:03] o'clock will be the serum opening ceremony

[2:31:07] um from two to six we're gonna be the Town Hall open and historian's office

[2:31:12] open uh vendors outside and uh vendors I mean the Boost of the local businesses

[2:31:19] and

[2:31:22] that'll go until like I said six o'clock two to six and

[2:31:27] then from six to nine it's gonna be bootleg down in River Street Park

[2:31:33] and then we're working on uh seeing if we can't pull off a fireworks show at 9

[2:31:39] 30 that night that is not 100 yeah it's all gonna boil

[2:31:44] down to cost so is that going to be a sponsor deal

[2:31:48] with the fireworks yeah now

[2:31:53] um if if some local businesses want to help

[2:31:56] that would be great

[2:32:00] I think I can call from the office down here so let's listen for it but I have

[2:32:05] had already a couple contact me that would like to go in so

[2:32:13] it's um they can do that I just can't call them up and say hey can you

[2:32:18] come so it looks like right now um we might have another couple thousand

[2:32:24] from somebody else that's willing to donate and as soon as I find out

[2:32:28] the chuck put that out everybody but I don't wanna

[2:32:32] it's something that I'm untied

[2:32:38] um Mike helped me there too and uh

[2:32:42] gentleman we spoke to thought he could put on a pretty good show for around

[2:32:46] five thousand two thousand on the way to divide

[2:32:53] let's see what happens

[2:32:56] it's gonna be safe out there because all the vendor people well it won't won't be

[2:33:02] till 9 30 at night

[2:33:06] for Sunday yeah but I don't know if they're gonna

[2:33:10] go all the way back to the tree line like that the boobs that's something

[2:33:14] that I'll talk to the spiral cat and you can tell me

[2:33:20] yeah we asked that too I talked too much about that already so we'll see we'll

[2:33:27] see how it all goes huh didn't you say Casella was going to

[2:33:31] provide food

[2:33:34] kind of mentioned

[2:33:46] they want to help a lot and I do appreciate it they've been a great

[2:33:50] neighbor I mean yeah at times we have to put up with a little snow and he's good

[2:33:55] about letting me know now and give me an email at the recap and drawing another

[2:34:00] well or recapping another one because that's usually when you get that methane

[2:34:03] smell but uh they have they have oh my three and a half years here on Everson

[2:34:11] from the parks or the the pump drags to everything I mean they donated either

[2:34:18] equipment or Manpower or items so I can't think of enough so it looks like

[2:34:26] like I said things are going pretty good Rick podiker called me today he's got

[2:34:32] some more information on some things uh he's been helping out with 175th

[2:34:38] um that area five kind of legislator so I appreciate the help he's given us too

[2:34:45] and another business is in town too

[2:34:51] and he's been married oh yeah well Mindy said like I said

[2:34:57] earlier she's been sitting on the committee so she's been

[2:35:00] you know checking on on all things too like

[2:35:04] got candy machines the popcorn machine and stuff like that remember something

[2:35:09] to me before about checking stuff on tail around all my first tent and stuff

[2:35:12] you still want me to or um that that kind of fell on my lap by

[2:35:18] Friday I took a phone call from Sean and he offered me a bunch of different

[2:35:23] things and um definitely like you said you go

[2:35:27] if you I want to do everything we can to support the Cannabis and we don't want

[2:35:31] to yeah

[2:35:33] I have any issues because I'd much rather be a part of this so yeah he he

[2:35:39] already has rented a 30 by 60. so hold don't don't go I think that that should

[2:35:46] be good I was going to talk to the rest of everybody in the committee to see

[2:35:50] whether they wanted another one or not looks like the only way we can get the

[2:35:55] other one is probably out of Malone

[2:36:18] so I think we'll be good then I want to thank Mike for the third round stuff

[2:36:23] he's going to let us use some picnic tables how much are the fireworks

[2:36:28] we talked about five about 5007 would be a good show it

[2:36:34] was a good show for about five minutes

[2:36:41] yeah when I checked indicator Bill and again I don't like saying what they

[2:36:46] right but yeah I did Steve I want to thank cable fire

[2:36:51] department and their members for uh helping us with our event because I

[2:36:56] didn't have to reinvent the wheel they gave us everything they do for

[2:37:00] their field day every year and they didn't have to

[2:37:04] including their parade list and all of that so everybody's been over backwards

[2:37:09] to help this thing go off good so um I can't think you know like I said I

[2:37:15] can't thank everybody enough for pitching in and helping out and

[2:37:18] everybody that's good they're parts so far whatever that is it has been

[2:37:23] it's not me everybody that's making this thing come

[2:37:28] together so it's looking pretty good it looks like we'll have a good time but I

[2:37:32] think that's what we're we had discussed with about five five thousand when we

[2:37:37] talked to how many of those I can put a pretty good show on today Mindy said she

[2:37:42] will do your fireworks

[2:37:45] all right I'll get with you after well I appreciate that thank you very much

[2:37:50] that's really nice to get so um I'll get with you separately on what your

[2:37:55] donation will be and I really do appreciate it

[2:38:02] and that's exactly what I'm talking about everybody has been over backwards

[2:38:06] to help with this thing oh

[2:38:11] that's great that's great we have copies of the letter that was

[2:38:16] sent out to a lot of commercial people that are probably certainly a lot of

[2:38:19] people that don't haven't gotten this in terms of retails you know small business

[2:38:24] owners and also we've got the forms for being in the parade performance for

[2:38:29] volunteering and being in the festival and so that'll be here okay if you have

[2:38:34] people that you've been passing out to just let me know and if there's people

[2:38:37] perfect we can send it out too perfect so like I said we mailed out and so all

[2:38:43] of that stuff included to the dignitaries that we've invited and we

[2:38:47] invited about what the denomination where you know like I said uh we did

[2:38:52] invite the closest three supervisors surrounding Our Town awesome

[2:38:57] um and uh legislators that uh are around our account it did not officially invite

[2:39:03] the board because right yeah the boys the more knows

[2:39:10] they should be here it's the town's 150th anniversary and public officials I

[2:39:16] would hope that we we all try to be here and support

[2:39:19] um there's going to be a lot to do that day and it looks like they're I don't

[2:39:23] know so like Barb just suggested if anybody wants to volunteer or do

[2:39:27] anything to help the forums are back there if they know somebody or may think

[2:39:32] they know somebody that wants to attend and we may not have invited them

[2:39:39] get it to them get it to him I still need to do a lot

[2:39:43] of outdoor outside publicity that you know we wanted to have a little bit more

[2:39:47] firmed up before we and I'd like to have like you said I like to have exactly

[2:39:52] what's going on before we start getting really big but this is exactly what's

[2:39:57] going on that day but preliminarily I can tell you what we did and we're

[2:40:02] opening up our work so oh it's 100 huh

[2:40:13] all right

[2:40:16] now I know what your donation is going to be but thank you very much I do

[2:40:21] appreciate that so

[2:40:24] you can get a hold of uh done and tell them we're all set for

[2:40:29] doesn't it um

[2:40:31] have them come up here and look

[2:40:35] we'll go through what the setup is going to be if he sees any issues or any

[2:40:39] concerns but they go they go so high Often by the

[2:40:44] time they come back down there shouldn't be anything

[2:40:49] we'll have the fire department here anyway

[2:40:57] all right

[2:41:02] thank you

[2:41:05] so all right so

[2:41:13] [Music]

[2:41:17] okay

[2:41:22] um unfinished business I will tell you I did contact uh Marshall Lee and mass I

[2:41:28] need to talk to Tyler he is reaching out to see what's going on and how long and

[2:41:32] why it's taking so long to get aeds but again when I talk to the other vendor uh

[2:41:39] she was like I don't know how you get them from that price much less finding

[2:41:42] them right now because uh there was a recall with one of the aeds with

[2:41:47] uh makers and that did for uh crimp on all of the others because then

[2:41:55] everybody was going just to not so there's only a couple of them out there

[2:41:59] uh he's gonna let me know what's going on and how much longer he think they

[2:42:06] think it's going to take to get those aeds one for here one for up at the

[2:42:10] highway garage uh gas

[2:42:13] uh we talked about the non-ethanol gas Sands will go into Stewart's and

[2:42:18] purchasing it over there so he gets a car goes over there and

[2:42:22] gets the gas and marks the can appropriately because it

[2:42:27] was funny because one of the girls today was like what when am I supposed to fill

[2:42:32] the tractor up so at least they're asking if they don't know so it looks

[2:42:36] like we're saving money there that's it for our finishing this I have

[2:42:41] a new business I got really none um resolutions yeah

[2:42:48] do we replace the last person that did that including there

[2:42:54] oh my bad um now

[2:42:59] um we do need to hire a new remember that underneath on this uh I

[2:43:06] knew housekeeping company for the the town

[2:43:10] hall we no longer have the one that we had

[2:43:14] so we did call around when I say we head

[2:43:20] down to do that called around a couple of our towns and um

[2:43:24] let's see if we can't get a lead on one of them

[2:43:28] if not then I'd say we put it out to bed and see what happens

[2:43:34] I'll at least contact who we can from other towns and see if they're willing

[2:43:39] but a lot of them are like they're they're people that they just

[2:43:44] hire we on the other hand want insurance and the whole night when

[2:43:51] they're in there it makes it a little bit more difficult

[2:43:54] because if they don't have a cleaning company nobody wants to apply

[2:43:59] not really because they're uh yeah they're they're on a payroll but as

[2:44:04] uh uh W9 I wonder if we heard somebody just for

[2:44:08] another Bureau like for the record

[2:44:12] I mean building in grounds yeah

[2:44:18] because you might not get a company to accept it is as we've been without a

[2:44:23] cleaning company for a month and a half now yeah and as you can see I mean

[2:44:28] Sheila mostly Sheila goes around with the bags

[2:44:33] I've cleaned toilets Sheila's cleaning time I will not go into the men's room

[2:44:37] I'm sorry on that one uh

[2:44:41] but we shouldn't have to I mean I I swept and mopped out there the other day

[2:44:49] company and I'm like no I'm just tripping into what I got to do I'm not

[2:44:55] I help out where I can we all do I mowed and we whack this whole property the

[2:45:00] other day other than the fields

[2:45:06] yeah so um we all kind of chip in and do our part but we are going to have to

[2:45:11] find somebody could I ask you that you look into like

[2:45:16] work on or somebody because this place is

[2:45:21] yeah yep we're not only one I'll tell you that

[2:45:26] um the more it rains the more they want to

[2:45:29] come in yeah yep again it's been so wet that uh

[2:45:34] they're coming in there's a little tiny straight across and we were it was

[2:45:38] pretty good when we you know he had some stuff to spray yeah so uh

[2:45:43] I can do that that ain't gonna that is not gonna be a major expense

[2:45:50] I think it's something to do with not having a cleaner I can have working come

[2:45:54] over and spray around the foundation of the building yeah

[2:46:03] the oil business is done and [Music]

[2:46:06] um he didn't want to go out and get his own

[2:46:10] insurance on his own because if he's only got us for a client it's going to

[2:46:16] counterproductive for insurance so um

[2:46:21] that's why I think Mike had a good idea Kevin you probably should try to look

[2:46:24] into something I don't think you're going to get a company and what we're

[2:46:28] what we're paying come in here yeah is that a little bit of monitors yeah

[2:46:32] before I get a hold of Morgan or whatever is there anybody that

[2:46:38] wants me to put this out the bed for one time I think you'll put it up to

[2:46:43] bid it's going to be another month it will be but I'm just saying I don't want

[2:46:46] to hear everything coming up

[2:46:50] Orchid or whoever the bug thing before I get yelled out for that I I can I can

[2:46:59] one time thing it's going to be way under what a department head I can do I

[2:47:04] can do it legally but I just don't want to hear any complaints about it so does

[2:47:08] everybody go with me finding out who I can get a hold of let's get a hold of it

[2:47:12] yeah oh yeah find somebody there's not many questions

[2:47:33] good all right so I'll take care of that

[2:47:39] um the house cleaning are you good if we can find somebody

[2:47:45] that does another town or do you and put out the bid only if we can't find

[2:47:49] somebody

[2:47:58] it doesn't really matter as long as they got insurance and some companies are

[2:48:02] just individuals what if we just put somebody on like we said

[2:48:06] it didn't Alaska I didn't have insurance right you just said he didn't have it no

[2:48:10] no no he yeah he had a company they had the company had Insurance that's what

[2:48:14] happens when I was cleaning here on payroll and this time somebody worked

[2:48:22] you've saved us a bunch of money what about Micah what did he get

[2:48:28] 75 dollars yeah because you get it once a week

[2:48:39] I can check this weekend I don't know how that

[2:48:46] if I put them on a payroll I gotta have uh Civil Service item form so let me

[2:48:53] talk with Mary and find out what we can maybe put it under yes

[2:49:11] yep I don't even know what that is

[2:49:18] oh there are uh jobs

[2:49:24] and if they do good right

[2:49:29] yep all right who wants to get a hold of

[2:49:35] ETS I'll do it thank you I got enough to do

[2:49:46] there you go good job

[2:49:51] you got it all right let me know how you make out I'll let you know could that be

[2:49:56] supervisor all right

[2:50:04] okay I think that's it unless Mike had something else is something else because

[2:50:09] you just wasn't making it anything else yeah

[2:50:13] all righty

[2:50:19] Network resolution okay the first one resolution

[2:50:25] 23.60 a motion by whereas the code enforcement announcer has found

[2:50:30] everything in compliance with Earth Waste Systems Incorporated junkyard be

[2:50:36] it therefore resolved that the town board approves the renewal of Earth with

[2:50:41] Earth Waste Systems Incorporated junk yards license

[2:50:47] uh effective immediately June 30th under discussion

[2:50:52] um of 2024.

[2:50:56] so can I get a motion motion

[2:51:00] variety

[2:51:15] any further discussion all right local

[2:51:22] history yes Mr Bruno yeah Mr Randall yes proof power this is pretty impressive by

[2:51:30] the way our students the Earth I've ever seen yeah I got one question for you I'm

[2:51:36] on something I'll do it after though there's something that came by my

[2:51:43] my office

[2:51:48] uh 20 resolution 2361. uh motion by whereas in the 2023 budget

[2:51:57] monies are appropriated for a deputy Town Clerk and whereas the town clerk

[2:52:02] has the authority to appoint her own Deputy town clerk be it therefore

[2:52:07] resolved that the town of scholar Falls authorizes the

[2:52:12] 18.17 an hour wage to be paid to counseling Russell uh Deputy town clerk

[2:52:19] who will be acting in absence of the Town Court

[2:52:24] can I get a motion well first of all Let's uh why are we

[2:52:28] doing a resolution even on this she is hired as the deputy town clerk

[2:52:36] our town clerk isn't going to be here at 1817 should go to her automatically we

[2:52:41] shouldn't need resolution for us well she needs to get on the payroll at one

[2:52:45] point and that's what uh the bookkeeper wants a resolution so that this way

[2:52:56] yeah not a paid position

[2:53:00] yes yeah so she's already in the system yes

[2:53:04] it shouldn't be an issue but just so that

[2:53:09] it's all been approved by the border now um

[2:53:15] I think where you get confused if I'm not confused

[2:53:20] but I think that Mary was thinking on this is normally we

[2:53:25] do an organizational meeting we appoint all of our appointed all right codes and

[2:53:31] all that at that point in time your salaries are all part of that that one

[2:53:36] resolution in January but being that this is not January I think that's why

[2:53:41] she just wanted on the record that this is what her appointment is and that the

[2:53:47] pay the pay was approved in the organization we just didn't have anybody

[2:53:53] in it we just never paid anybody not okay Downs never paid in the last so

[2:53:59] many years but we're going to

[2:54:04] was anybody named that position in the organizational meeting no

[2:54:09] not that I don't know

[2:54:13] right now Sheila Martin is one of my deputies Yeah in our town we can only

[2:54:19] have one deputy so she's gonna I appointed her two or

[2:54:27] three months ago but we had to have as it has to go down to civil service

[2:54:31] okay because she was already an employee no

[2:54:38] just because that's how civil service is huh really we should have had a um

[2:54:45] a first and second in this before we got the discussion but we're kind of way

[2:54:49] past that point so did somebody get are we in discussion now yeah yeah but

[2:54:55] I'd rather have a first and a second before we keep going yeah yeah

[2:55:07] so do I get a motion so we can keep going with this and then we decide

[2:55:11] whether we want to do I'll make emotions

[2:55:21] like karate all right keep going that way you can keep going at least they're

[2:55:25] legal here yes sir thank you okay

[2:55:31] um

[2:55:33] and it's been mentioned to me just this week regarding this let me just bring

[2:55:39] the point a couple of people made to me on this

[2:55:45] due to the fact that this particular appointee

[2:55:50] is a candidate or town clerk

[2:55:56] these two people in our town are saying to me they're feeling that it's kind of

[2:56:03] creates a conflict because

[2:56:08] it kind of is interfering in the election process

[2:56:12] is that it's giving a clear advantage in an

[2:56:17] election is coming up this year by appointing a

[2:56:22] candidate to this position

[2:56:28] So based on that uh

[2:56:34] I mean if we we were appointing two town clerk Deputy Town clerks and the other

[2:56:40] one was the other candidate I would vote Yes

[2:56:46] but the point is her being a candidate for town clerk this is going to give her

[2:56:52] an advantage a possible advantage in the election this year now and that's the

[2:56:59] point that's the point I'm making saying what you're doing is just uh doing her

[2:57:05] salary I'm appointing her and you can't there's nothing you can say that I can't

[2:57:11] appoint my own deputies I'm not being no don't take money

[2:57:17] personally no I'm not but the money part is what you're you're going to be

[2:57:22] um voting on not who my Deputy is so you're so you're now gonna have two

[2:57:28] deputies no I will not have two bills no the first one is not going to be

[2:57:32] definitely no I can't we found out that I can't have two deputies

[2:57:39] so that's my point I've made my point it's the way I feel

[2:57:45] certainly nothing personal against this person at all not at all

[2:57:52] but it's got everything to do with election this fall

[2:57:56] someone running for this position that's all thank you

[2:58:01] so the decision has already been made you're appointing this person that's

[2:58:05] your prerogative she's appointed okay so all we're talking about is approving the

[2:58:10] salary rate wage which we already did in January you've appointed for yes you you

[2:58:16] did the salary in the United States right so this

[2:58:20] resolution is only saying that we're going to pay this person to you our

[2:58:25] appointed 18.17 an hour just please don't take this personal now sure

[2:58:34] bye don't you think to be in your best interest to abstain from this vote

[2:58:40] upstairs once again don't get it doesn't it has

[2:58:46] nothing to do with Sonic Jump

[2:58:53] I don't understand why he should have to since this is a money line not a person

[2:58:58] and you might very well be right for that's it you know what that's a good

[2:59:03] point I'm going to tell you something the reason why I didn't even think this

[2:59:06] should go to a resolution is exactly what we're talking about now you guys

[2:59:09] are making a big political deal out of it it's not it's already been approved

[2:59:14] in January Shiva as a state law that Donna gets to appoint this the uh Deputy

[2:59:20] I don't even know why we're talking about it but there's a resolution I'll

[2:59:24] I'll have to uh rescind my motion right

[2:59:51] but I just want you to be well I don't understand that the only thing you're

[2:59:57] you're this resolution is doing is okay in this hour we've already approved

[3:00:02] not not the individual that I made that very clear how do you think makes an

[3:00:07] advantage for in this position

[3:00:11] well basically

[3:00:16] she will gain experience for the position she's running for that's why I

[3:00:22] feel that way and if she doesn't get the election and it's all burned up well

[3:00:27] let's put it this way I was going to do she's appointed

[3:00:32] she was going to start before the caucus right and

[3:00:37] I said that I'd wait until to find out what happened at the caucus well will

[3:00:43] she continue on uh with zoning board of appeals yeah yeah she can if okay if she

[3:00:52] does she's running through your position yes

[3:00:56] if she does get that position then this would be a benefit for the town to have

[3:01:01] her training at the same time but where would the fairness be to her opponent

[3:01:09] and once again I don't want to get deep details on this at all and then again I

[3:01:15] don't see where why we're making this a big political thing I see what your

[3:01:19] point is this girl has been appointed two months

[3:01:23] ago let's start with we shouldn't even

[3:01:26] discussing the appointing the person we should not be just not part of that's

[3:01:30] not what we're doing under resolution we are voting on 18 and 17 cents an hour

[3:01:36] right you don't even need a name there take the name out of there and don't

[3:01:39] even leave it there if you want to write another resolution

[3:01:42] well but you you just vote on the 1817. that's all we're doing basically we've

[3:01:47] got to stop and make change person involved

[3:01:50] no

[3:02:00] not because then Mary can't send it down to Civil Service oh okay do you want to

[3:02:05] change it to the to be able to pay her deputy's town clerk

[3:02:09] that's what I was watching in the absence take that name out of there try

[3:02:12] to be as honest as I could yeah and you were painfully honest so if that works

[3:02:19] better let's all right I'll make that motion

[3:02:23] authorizes the 1817 an hour wage we paid to the deputy town clerk who will be

[3:02:28] acting in the absence of the town clerk sound better red aren't you gonna have

[3:02:34] to put her aren't you gonna have to name her no no I mean you've discussed

[3:02:39] putting her on the payroll

[3:02:43] I mean

[3:02:47] it boils down to the town we don't get to

[3:02:52] tell the town clerk Hoover Deputy Camp workers it's her

[3:02:58] appointment so when we send it down a civil service

[3:03:02] they're going to want a name on there well of course yeah of course

[3:03:06] well we're talking about the 18 dollars and 17 cents an hour for the resolution

[3:03:14] if any of us didn't like it up here there

[3:03:17] would be nothing we could do about it you know what I'm saying other than

[3:03:22] the hourly wage which is already in our organizational mean

[3:03:28] and been approved so we've already plugged it once so why do we have to

[3:03:33] approve it again and the discussion is can I just say say one more thing yeah

[3:03:37] for 12 years and I remember when I appointed some

[3:03:42] someone as my Deputy Town coach was Deputy Town Court we went to pay her and

[3:03:47] it was a matter of um double dipping so she couldn't get

[3:03:52] the salary Sheila has been acting as my Deputy town clerk when I'm not here

[3:03:57] doing handicaps and um well she does she doesn't really

[3:04:02] she nobody goes into my computer I'm going to train this person in my

[3:04:07] computer because I'm going to be gone I may not I'll be gone

[3:04:12] I know when I have to be here and when I don't have to be here I'd like to so

[3:04:17] then there's somebody here from the town yes for the town

[3:04:23] and I have not paid it's been in a line item for 12 years and nothing's come out

[3:04:29] of that line item for 12 years so is everybody good with it corrected

[3:04:36] how many hours will she be working I have no idea when I'm gone

[3:04:42] I could not like

[3:04:47] for six hours a day times four 24 hours 30 hours a week I don't know no I work

[3:04:53] 30 hours you work 30. so she'd probably be working 30 when you were gone no she

[3:05:00] doesn't have to be here every day no I'll go back to her schedule and I'll go

[3:05:05] with my I don't know why we're discussing this this is something we're

[3:05:09] going back to that person again and we should not be discussing this person

[3:05:12] it's nothing to do we've already disgusted you're right

[3:05:19] we should be saying 18 17 an hour and it's already been answered that no

[3:05:26] one knows how many hours she works and we work one day this week and she might

[3:05:29] work four days next week so we have to vote on the 1817 an hour

[3:05:41] is there any other discussion

[3:05:46] then I guess we'll go

[3:05:52] wait a minute let me back up did you actually pull your motion do we need

[3:05:58] somebody else no if we're not going to put her name in it just we're just going

[3:06:01] on audit okay and make the Motions we're all call Mr Hamel yes Mr perrotti yes Mr

[3:06:07] Bruno yes Mr facto no Mr Randall yes

[3:06:30] foreign

[3:06:34] resolution 30-62. a motion by whereas at the May 23rd

[3:06:42] meeting a resolution was passed to research the regular Town board meeting

[3:06:46] scheduled for Tuesday July 25th

[3:06:51] that's every schedule

[3:06:55] I'm sorry it's getting late all right whereas at the May 23rd meeting a

[3:07:02] resolution was fast to rescheduled the regular Town board meeting scheduled for

[3:07:07] Tuesday July 25th for Tuesday July 18th and whereas there are scheduling

[3:07:14] conflicts with some of the council members be it therefore resolved that

[3:07:20] the regular Town board meeting that was rescheduled for Tuesday July 18 2023 at

[3:07:26] 6 PM be rescheduled for Monday July 17th 2023 which is the regular schedule work

[3:07:35] session night at 6 PM so basically it would be trading uh the work session for

[3:07:42] the regular meeting lotion Yeah by burn second

[3:07:50] factors of Legend all right well any discussion

[3:07:54] welcome Mr Hamel yes Mr Karate yes Mr Bruno yes Mr facto yes Mr Randall yes

[3:08:01] okay

[3:08:10] all right that brings us to claims uh General fun

[3:08:15] 26 000

[3:08:18] 41.38 highlight 29 000.

[3:08:24] 496.65 Auto only 3 292.47

[3:08:32] Woods Mills water

[3:08:36] 1861.63 Morrisonville water nine thousand three hundred and sixty

[3:08:43] three dollars and ninety seven cents Macy Lane water two thousand three

[3:08:49] hundred and twenty dollars and eighty cents I'd only planes are two zero two

[3:08:55] three zero zero seven zero two through two zero two three zero zero seven one

[3:09:02] four claims two zero two three zero zero seven two one through two zero two three

[3:09:11] zero zero eight three five and payroll claims two zero two three zero zero six

[3:09:19] seven one through two zero two three zero zero seven zero one and also two

[3:09:26] zero two three zero zero seven one five through two zero two three zero zero

[3:09:34] seven two zero [Music]

[3:09:36] if I can get a motion to pay the claims one second

[3:09:43] second answer and discussion

[3:09:48] roll call Mr Hamel yes Mr Karate yes Mr Bruno yes Mr facto yes Mr Randall yeah

[3:09:57] all right next meeting regular me uh will be the 17th now 7 17

[3:10:06] of 2023 it's a Monday at 6 p.m work session if needed will be seven three uh

[3:10:13] 2023 and that would be uh Monday at 6 PM if needed again if anybody on this board

[3:10:20] has something just pressing let me know other than

[3:10:24] that it's uh it's three days away three four days away I probably will not do

[3:10:30] that

[3:10:33] yeah it's a holiday weekend um a lot of businesses are took in the

[3:10:39] third off all righty I'm gonna get a motion to

[3:10:45] adjourn one second are you sure

[3:10:51] all in favor yes all in favor

[3:10:55] yes yes

Regular Meeting for June 27th, 2023

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