[0:02] Good evening and

[0:03] welcome to the

[0:04] Central

[0:06] Planning Board on Thursday,

[0:07] September 24, 2026.

[0:08] The meeting

[0:09] will be held here, in the

[0:10] Special Council hearing room.

[0:11] We have a motion to

[0:12] close the meeting. Do

[0:13] we have a second?

[0:14] All in favor? Is

[0:16] Mrs. Virtue missing

[0:18] ? I don't think so. At 6:30 PM we will

[0:21] continue

[0:22] the meeting regarding

[0:24] the address Country Way, 18-20

[0:26] . Ms. Ivy, do you have anything

[0:27] to add? I'll try.

[0:29] Thank you.

[0:30] I move to

[0:30] grant the applicant's request to

[0:32] continue the

[0:33] public hearing

[0:34] on the

[0:34] administrative

[0:35] review of the master

[0:36] site plan and

[0:37] stormwater permit

[0:38] for an

[0:38] apartment

[0:39] building in the

[0:40] Village Center District and the

[0:41] Rainbow

[0:42] Drive, Gateway,

[0:44] Rainbow Village Center Subdistrict for

[0:50] the address 18-20 Country Way,

[0:53] until 6:45 p.m. And extend the

[0:57] deadline for actions according

[0:59] to the time frame until

[1:02] January 31, 2027-2028.

[1:04] That is, until 2016.

[1:06] And

[1:07] about 11

[1:07] next year.

[1:09] Until November.

[1:10] And I say it has to

[1:11] be new.

[1:12] Second.

[1:16] The applicant must

[1:17] re-advertise

[1:18] and re-

[1:19] notify others of

[1:20] the continuation of

[1:21] the public hearing at

[1:22] their own expense.

[1:23] Good.

[1:24] You guys are great.

[1:25] They just say it

[1:26] .

[1:27] I hope so.

[1:28] Good.

[1:29] 6:35. Is there any

[1:31] update on this

[1:32] , Cameron?

[1:33] Yes, there is. I mean,

[1:35] you know they have

[1:36] Section 65 of the

[1:38] Improvement Act. Are they

[1:39] going to build?

[1:40] Yes. And there is mention of

[1:42] ...And there is no

[1:43] mention of a 150-

[1:44] foot buffer.

[1:46] Yes.

[1:47] And I was told that

[1:48] they would submit

[1:49] their plans soon.

[1:52] What happened to the

[1:53] historic application? Did

[1:56] they vote for the

[1:57] plans? I don't know. I have

[1:59] n't received a comment yet.

[2:02] So, what date is this?

[2:03] Er, October 1st.

[2:07] Hmm, they're coming back on

[2:09] December 10th. Yes, yes.

[2:11] They are coming back.

[2:12] Yes, yes. Yes. Are

[2:14] we all ready?

[2:15] Yes.

[2:16] I think we're moving on

[2:17] .

[2:17] Yes, let's move on.

[2:19] 6:35.

[2:20] Do you want to continue?

[2:21] Uh, is it

[2:22] over already?

[2:23] Greetings. Uh, welcome

[2:24] to the hearing

[2:25] on your amendment to the

[2:26] attached schedule.

[2:27] I just want to

[2:28] let the board know that I'm

[2:29] fine.

[2:32] No, that's normal.

[2:33] No, but it's 6:35 now. This is

[2:35] normal.

[2:36] Okay, that's great.

[2:38] I thought I could

[2:39] just sit down. No, that's

[2:41] normal.

[2:42] So, we know you

[2:44] requested our attached

[2:45] schedule and it has been

[2:46] changed to be

[2:47] agent.

[2:47] Right. Good.

[2:50] So, we know that I...

[2:51] personally don't think...

[2:53] Oh, okay. Oh, I did

[2:54] n't cook anything.

[2:55] No, everything is fine.

[2:56] Yes. Uh, I redid

[2:59] the survey, and so did

[3:00] the architect, we

[3:01] made these plans. And,

[3:05] um, we actually

[3:05] talked to the

[3:06] building

[3:07] department about

[3:08] ways to

[3:09] do that. And so, we

[3:10] connect this

[3:11] with a kind of

[3:12] loophole between the two

[3:13] houses. And it

[3:14] can simply be

[3:15] connected to the

[3:16] existing

[3:16] water and

[3:17] sewage

[3:18] system. And I'm just

[3:20] waiting for a response

[3:21] from Will about...um, he

[3:22] mentioned something about the

[3:24] sewers.

[3:25] Will Redden?

[3:26] I am Yes.

[3:27] he is on vacation.

[3:28] Oh, that's true.

[3:29] They...They...It's an old

[3:30] place, so we're there, and

[3:31] she might

[3:32] have to

[3:32] upgrade

[3:33] the sewers and

[3:34] watch the water.

[3:34] I understand that. We

[3:36] talked about this when it was

[3:37] going to

[3:37] stand alone.

[3:38] So, I...I know that this...

[3:40] So, you want to

[3:41] stay in your...

[3:42] You know that you are our...

[3:43] um... This money

[3:44] is being collected, but it

[3:45] has nothing to do with us

[3:47] . So...Here...

[3:48] I...Excuse me.

[3:49] Yes, there are costs

[3:51] charged for individual

[3:52] homes. Uh, we all

[3:54] said there was no

[3:55] cost.

[3:55] Yes, I know. Is it

[3:57] DPW or sewer

[3:59] etc. So it's

[4:00] actually a council of

[4:01] voters.

[4:03] Oh, that's right. Yes, that's what it

[4:05] is.

[4:05] This is not in our

[4:07] charter. We are

[4:08] very happy to understand this. So,

[4:09] yes.

[4:09] So we can

[4:10] delete it.

[4:11] Yes. Uh, assuming

[4:13] the question is from the council?

[4:15] Yes, I have one.

[4:16] Good.

[4:17] Em. Did you

[4:23] change anything about the

[4:24] driveway or the

[4:25] way to get to the

[4:30] property so they

[4:31] didn't have to go through the

[4:32] house? No. Em. Well,

[4:39] if I can get

[4:41] to my side, I

[4:41] understand what you mean

[4:43] . Yeah, I

[4:44] mean they could

[4:45] just walk off the

[4:46] driveway and it would be

[4:48] , uh, a slide

[4:49] through...I don't have

[4:50] things in front of me.

[4:53] Sorry, but, uh, I didn't

[4:54] think about the fact that

[4:56] access would probably

[4:57] be from the

[4:58] driveway along...

[5:00] So you have a driveway?

[5:02] Yes.

[5:02] along the access

[5:03] road.

[5:04] I think we could

[5:04] do that.

[5:05] I think you might have to

[5:06] .

[5:07] Good. It will happen.

[5:08] Good.

[5:08] You need this

[5:09] access. Good.

[5:10] You need this

[5:11] access. You need

[5:12] this access.

[5:12] Yes.

[5:16] We talked about this

[5:17] when it was

[5:18] separated about

[5:19] how we were going to

[5:23] get out of this.

[5:24] You know, I think,

[5:29] yeah, okay.

[5:31] I was just trying to

[5:32] say the same thing.

[5:33] Sorry.

[5:35] They are learning.

[5:36] Yes, you had all this

[5:38] blood after I

[5:39] said it was 100% your

[5:41] fault. Sorry.

[5:42] Could it be something

[5:43] like a slate

[5:45] walkway?

[5:45] Yes.

[5:45] Oh, okay. Just a

[5:47] way for them to

[5:47] get from there to there

[5:48] .

[5:49] I don't want my...

[5:49] They don't crowd around the

[5:50] house.

[5:51] Right.

[5:52] I don't know if it's your

[5:52] house or something,

[5:53] but it may not always

[5:54] be the case that you don't

[5:55] want stray

[5:55] people walking around your

[5:56] house. Sorry.

[5:57] I didn't say anything. I did

[5:59] n't say.

[5:59] Sorry.

[6:00] Do we have anyone

[6:01] online who can

[6:03] say anything about this

[6:04] ?

[6:05] The issue of

[6:06] Mr. iPad was raised, okay? Oh, Mr.

[6:09] iPad, I'm sorry.

[6:10] Mhm.

[6:11] Mr. iPad, just your

[6:12] name, address and

[6:13] go to your

[6:14] comment. You should

[6:15] be able to

[6:16] turn on the sound.

[6:17] Hello, good

[6:18] evening everyone. Oh,

[6:19] sorry about that. Um,

[6:21] Mary Ann Lewis, um,

[6:23] 81 Noel Avenue. I'm

[6:26] Diane's direct neighbor. Um, she's a

[6:31] great neighbor, by

[6:32] the way, and I think everyone

[6:34] knows that, I've always been a proponent of the

[6:36] ADU concept and

[6:37] supported it, um, and

[6:38] I appreciate, um, and I

[6:39] apologize for

[6:41] not having the opportunity to

[6:42] get to the

[6:43] planning department to

[6:44] review

[6:45] the modification. So, um,

[6:51] since I was actually

[6:52] developing 81 Norwell,

[6:54] um, in that process, the

[6:55] planning board

[6:56] asked me, um,

[6:57] to provide some

[6:59] privacy,

[7:00] like a screen on the

[7:01] terrace. I don't...You

[7:02] guys probably don't

[7:03] remember because you see

[7:04] so much space. "

[7:05] We remember."

[7:07] And, um, and my neighbor and I

[7:08] were able to talk to

[7:09] each other and

[7:10] figure out what, um, made the

[7:12] most sense,

[7:13] you know, in terms of

[7:14] that cost and effort. And

[7:18] we came up with this idea

[7:19] because at the time it

[7:21] was an old, rickety

[7:22] fence, you know, and I

[7:23] replaced six 8-

[7:24] foot panels with a more

[7:25] modern vinyl

[7:27] fence, um, that

[7:28] was there. And what goes from the

[7:31] end of this almost to the

[7:35] street, um, is another

[7:36] rickety old fence,

[7:38] um, that could very well

[7:39] fall over in the

[7:40] next storm

[7:41] we're all

[7:42] watching. Um,

[7:44] but I would like to

[7:45] think, um, and I would be

[7:47] happy to share

[7:48] some of the cost of

[7:49] installing it, but

[7:50] now that you know,

[7:52] it's changed a little bit, and

[7:53] since I developed 81

[7:55] Norwalk, um, certainly

[7:56] within her rights, of course,

[7:58] and I have no problem with that

[7:59] . She says there's a

[8:02] barn out back. So it

[8:03] gets a little cramped in there.

[8:07] Um, and so I'd like to

[8:09] think if

[8:10] we could all come to a

[8:11] collective agreement

[8:12] to add

[8:13] six more panels of this

[8:14] fence, which I

[8:15] think would solve the

[8:17] privacy issue,

[8:18] especially with the path

[8:19] coming from that side.

[8:22] It's just narrow, and

[8:24] like I said, I'm

[8:25] excited to work with

[8:26] Diana on this. She's a

[8:27] great neighbor, and um,

[8:29] I definitely

[8:30] support the

[8:31] ADU concept and am happy to split the

[8:33] cost of it. Well

[8:34] , thank you very much, Mr.

[8:36] Lewis. I am very happy.

[8:37] Um, well, just a few

[8:39] thoughts. I tried to

[8:44] soften the fact

[8:45] that there was space between us.

[8:47] I planted about

[8:49] six thujas, which

[8:49] grew quite

[8:50] tall. Four

[8:52] trees I'm

[8:52] going to remove,

[8:54] you know, for the ADU. I'm also

[8:55] going to move

[8:56] that, um, little

[8:58] shed-like one,

[8:59] you know, I'll just

[9:00] get rid of it or

[9:01] something. Um, I don't

[9:02] think I had any

[9:04] influence on what kind of

[9:05] fence

[9:06] would actually be installed there. And

[9:08] the fence, according to the

[9:09] survey I

[9:10] did, is not even

[9:11] on my

[9:13] property, right?

[9:15] So, before Mary

[9:17] Ann owned this

[9:18] property, the previous

[9:19] owners had renovated

[9:20] it. I had their

[9:22] phone number, and

[9:23] every time something

[9:24] went wrong, they

[9:26] would fix the fence. And

[9:27] my dad also

[9:28] repaired the fence, and

[9:29] so over the last 13

[9:30] years, you know, we've

[9:32] managed to put it together.

[9:35] Um, the fence she

[9:36] put up behind the

[9:37] lot didn't really

[9:39] mitigate...Yeah. What do I

[9:42] want to say? Um, the

[9:44] trees have grown in 5

[9:45] years, and now I

[9:46] have something like a

[9:47] small forest there, but there

[9:49] won't be any at all.

[9:52] Um, so I don't think

[9:53] it's the same fence

[9:54] , like I said, it's

[9:55] not even on my

[9:57] property, this fence

[9:58] . So, I don't know. We

[10:02] can discuss this,

[10:03] but the cost of a

[10:04] vinyl fence like that is

[10:05] quite high, and

[10:06] carrying it all the way down,

[10:08] you know, it won't

[10:09] fall apart at all.

[10:11] We... Is

[10:11] this in front of the back of the

[10:12] property?

[10:13] This is the side.

[10:15] Is this the side of the

[10:15] property?

[10:16] Yes, the side

[10:17] is between

[10:17] two properties.

[10:18] In the front...

[10:19] Oh, yes. In the

[10:20] front.

[10:22] Yes, when you are

[10:23] facing the house.

[10:24] Okay, so the trees

[10:25] need to be taken down?

[10:26] Oh, yes. We are going to

[10:28] move four

[10:29] orange trees that have

[10:30] white pine growing on them

[10:31] . We are moving

[10:32] ...We are moving them

[10:33] to make room where

[10:34] the defendant

[10:36] has added a

[10:36] house.

[10:38] Yes. Show me on

[10:39] this

[10:39] diagram where

[10:41] this fence is located.

[10:42] Yes. Yes. We don't...Oh,

[10:44] sorry. Oh, thank you.

[10:47] So, the tree line...

[10:51] You see, there's the house.

[10:52] Okay, so...

[10:54] I have fences

[10:55] , right? I mean,

[10:57] not fences. Right here,

[10:59] I have green trees.

[11:00] What trees? What kind of

[11:01] trees are there in this place?

[11:03] Oh, the fence is so

[11:04] small here. This is the

[11:07] property boundary. He's

[11:09] right here, right? He

[11:14] is here. I don't have

[11:15] glasses. Can I

[11:17] take mine? It's a little

[11:24] wet. And I'm

[11:26] going a little overboard. He

[11:27] wasn't on a straight

[11:29] line. Does it reach all the way

[11:31] down? So, the fence

[11:35] that she had is right

[11:37] here. This is not a straight line

[11:39] . I know that. Not a straight line. You see, 80

[11:46] feet. Here you can

[11:49] move to the right.

[11:51] Yes, that's where they

[11:52] could have done it too.

[11:54] So, then these trees

[11:55] shouldn't be there.

[11:57] I still

[11:58] need to draw a

[11:59] line.

[12:00] Yeah, and they're kind of

[12:01] running into this area

[12:02] , but

[12:03] yeah, we could

[12:03] do it from this

[12:05] side,

[12:05] and from that side.

[12:06] And then

[12:07] good.

[12:07] Yes, just do

[12:08] it there.

[12:09] Yes, actually.

[12:10] Yes.

[12:10] But you are not allowed to

[12:12] do that. From the same

[12:13] side.

[12:14] No, they are on the other side

[12:15] .

[12:16] Whatever you have, you

[12:16] can write

[12:17] so much.

[12:18] Yes, but you are not in

[12:19] my way.

[12:21] And then remember that

[12:22] Miss Lewis

[12:23] raised her hand again.

[12:25] They have...Do you have your

[12:26] hand up?

[12:27] Yes. Do you want

[12:28] your hand raised?

[12:29] Good.

[12:30] Oh, wait.

[12:31] Good.

[12:32] Miss Lewis, you should be

[12:33] able to turn on the

[12:34] sound. That's it. Okay,

[12:36] I didn't know. Sorry. I,

[12:38] Patty, didn't

[12:39] need to... I'm

[12:40] sorry. I...It's

[12:40] okay. Can I

[12:42] speak or wait?

[12:43] You can speak.

[12:44] Boldly.

[12:45] Okay, thank you. Uh, I

[12:46] was going to try to

[12:47] maybe answer the

[12:48] question. From the

[12:49] back of

[12:51] parking lot 81 to the

[12:52] front of the

[12:53] street is 150 feet.

[12:55] Good. So, the

[12:56] fence I

[12:57] put up 5 years ago

[12:59] ran from the back of the

[13:00] lot to the

[13:01] street, and it was six

[13:02] twenty-

[13:04] foot panels. So it's

[13:05] about a third of the

[13:06] way down. Is it

[13:07] on the side of

[13:08] your

[13:09] property, opposite

[13:10] your house? Uh,

[13:11] yes. Yes. Good.

[13:12] OK.

[13:15] So I suggest

[13:16] not even putting up a

[13:17] fence unless Diane and I

[13:19] want to

[13:20] do it, not not

[13:21] extending it all the way

[13:22] to the street, but

[13:23] extending it another six,

[13:24] you know, another 50 feet.

[13:27] So it's about two-

[13:28] thirds of the way, you know

[13:29] , past, you know, Diane,

[13:31] that little

[13:32] woodshed that

[13:33] I have there, maybe

[13:34] right behind it. I don't

[13:36] know if it's going to be six

[13:38] panels or, you know,

[13:39] seven or something, but,

[13:41] um, I think it's

[13:42] reasonable. Again,

[13:47] I'm glad to be able to

[13:48] contribute to

[13:49] some of the costs, and,

[13:50] you know, as a neighbor, I don't care

[13:52] who wants to

[13:53] claim

[13:54] ownership of

[13:55] this fence, whether

[13:56] we want to continue this

[13:58] path or start a

[13:59] new one, you know, from there,

[14:00] or whatever, but I

[14:01] just think it would be

[14:03] helpful for

[14:04] both of us, you know, to have it,

[14:05] especially now that the

[14:07] path is going to come from the

[14:08] driveway, which,

[14:09] if you look at

[14:10] my house, um, there's a

[14:12] doorway, right

[14:13] there, there's an entrance.

[14:16] I'm going to

[14:17] turn it over to the

[14:18] other side. I'm going to

[14:20] flip this

[14:20] track to the other side of the

[14:21] house mirror.

[14:22] Good. Okay, come on,

[14:24] this is a good start.

[14:25] Yes.

[14:26] it's a good job,

[14:27] yes.

[14:28] Um, you know, I just

[14:29] think again, I don't

[14:30] think this is an

[14:31] unreasonable

[14:32] request, and I'm not

[14:33] trying to

[14:34] hold anyone back, or,

[14:35] you know, it's, um, I think it's

[14:40] , it's, you know,

[14:41] given the fact

[14:43] that some of the trees have to be

[14:44] cut down, and, you know, as

[14:46] I said, since

[14:47] I designed 81, they're

[14:49] perfectly within her rights. I

[14:50] understand that all of this is within

[14:52] her rights. So, you know

[14:53] , I'm just trying to

[14:55] be...I'm not trying

[14:56] to be obstructive

[14:57] or, you know, um, not

[14:59] supportive of the

[14:59] ADU concept. I think

[15:01] everyone knows that I

[15:02] strongly support them.

[15:05] Um, I appreciate your

[15:06] cooperation. Of course.

[15:08] Perhaps this could

[15:09] be a topic for conversation

[15:11] . We might also be

[15:12] in the middle of a seminar,

[15:13] I don't know. I...I'm not

[15:14] sure we

[15:15] should...I

[15:16] don't think we should

[15:17] ...

[15:17] We should let

[15:18] them or tell them...I

[15:19] actually, I think

[15:20] it's up to the council.

[15:21] I think it's a

[15:22] private matter then. It's

[15:23] between them.

[15:24] Yes.

[15:24] So, you can

[15:25] solve this with...Yes, we

[15:27] understand who

[15:28] should do this. Hmm,

[15:30] are there any more questions? Is

[15:32] anyone else online? No, no

[15:34] one communicates with us anymore

[15:35] . Oh,

[15:36] bad. You know.

[15:37] Mr. Mayor, you don't have any

[15:39] virtual

[15:40] hands raised.

[15:40] Thank you. September 9,

[15:43] 2026 Diana Dimmick?

[15:46] Yes.

[15:47] filed an application for an

[15:48] amendment to the

[15:51] ADU Administrative Site Plan for an

[15:53] attached ADU at

[15:56] 75 Lowell Avenue. For Diana Dimmick,

[15:57] we see that approval

[15:59] was received

[16:01] for a detached

[16:02] ADU on July 24, 2026. She no longer

[16:06] wants to build a

[16:07] detached ADU with glass.

[16:08] According to the title deed

[16:09] ,

[16:10] the property at

[16:12] 75 Lowell Avenue is owned by Diana,

[16:13] Dimmick and Benjamin

[16:15] Dimmick. This Dimmick and

[16:17] Mr. Dimmick signed

[16:18] an application to amend the

[16:20] administrative

[16:21] site plan for an ADU.

[16:24] Well, based on the

[16:25] floor plan submitted

[16:27] by the applicant, the area of the

[16:28] proposed ADU

[16:30] would be

[16:31] approximately 526.5

[16:32] square feet.

[16:34] The area of the main

[16:35] dwelling is 1,061.77

[16:37] square feet

[16:38] according to the application,

[16:40] based on the

[16:41] inside dimension of the

[16:42] exterior wall. This

[16:44] meets the

[16:45] size requirement of 570.1 A of the

[16:47] zoning ordinance for

[16:48] accessory dwelling

[16:50] units (ADUs)

[16:50] as the ordinance

[16:52] allows

[16:52] for 50% of the

[16:53] total area of the

[16:54] principal dwelling or

[16:56] not 1,000 square

[16:57] feet,

[16:58] whichever is less. The ADU

[16:59] is 49.6% of the area of the

[17:02] main dwelling. The

[17:05] attached ADU will be

[17:06] connected to the main

[17:07] dwelling by a

[17:08] 10-foot by 10-foot walkway. There

[17:11] will be a completely

[17:13] separate residential

[17:14] unit next to the ADU. They will be

[17:19] just one

[17:20] additional residential

[17:21] unit on the site.

[17:24] Sixth, the ADU meets the

[17:26] setback,

[17:27] building height, and yard requirements within the

[17:29] limits permitted by

[17:30] law. Seventh, the ADU

[17:32] is subordinate to an

[17:33] existing detached

[17:34] home. Eighth,

[17:36] the property

[17:36] is located in a

[17:37] residential area

[17:38] zoned R3. Ninth, the

[17:40] proposed ADU

[17:41] will have access through a

[17:42] door, like the outside. 10,

[17:45] at least one

[17:45] private off-street

[17:47] parking space is provided for the ADU

[17:48] because the ADU

[17:49] is located

[17:50] more than 0.5

[17:51] miles from a

[17:52] commuter rail station

[17:53] , ferry terminal,

[17:54] or bus station. 11, ADU

[17:55] will be served by

[17:57] city

[17:57] water and

[17:58] city sewer

[17:59] . DPW

[18:00] water and

[18:01] sewer requirements will be

[18:02] met. 12, the application

[18:04] meets

[18:05] the standards of the current

[18:06] statute for ADUs.

[18:09] So, I don't understand.

[18:11] Sorry. Are we Are we Are we

[18:14] including this in what

[18:15] we

[18:16] She said I

[18:17] agree with that. I

[18:18] agree with that.

[18:20] Wait.

[18:20] Okay, sorry.

[18:22] I agree with that. This is what

[18:23] I read.

[18:24] Yes,

[18:25] it is written.

[18:26] Discussion.

[18:27] Boldly.

[18:28] Yes, Miss Lewis.

[18:30] So, I would ask the

[18:32] planning board to

[18:33] have a condition, you

[18:34] know, we have reached an

[18:35] agreement on the Okay,

[18:40] meaning you have a

[18:42] site inspection, you're not

[18:42] going to

[18:43] demand that.

[18:44] No. Good. Good.

[18:47] Um, the other question

[18:48] is,

[18:50] Excuse me, can I

[18:51] talk? Is this

[18:52] a modification or a new one?

[18:53] Wait. I

[18:55] had to make her

[18:56] submit a new application.

[18:58] Yes.

[18:59] The transition from

[18:59] connected to

[19:00] separate is something

[19:02] new.

[19:03] This is an important thing, but I

[19:05] made

[19:05] a modification here, didn't I

[19:06] ? But I made her

[19:09] submit a new application.

[19:11] So, let's

[19:11] rephrase the question

[19:13] . Okay, so the question

[19:14] is, is there a

[19:15] formal appeal

[19:16] hearing on the

[19:17] detached unit

[19:18] ...The City Council says

[19:19] I can have an

[19:20] appeal hearing

[19:21] because it was a new

[19:22] application. But if you

[19:23] think it's

[19:24] just a modification,

[19:25] then I...

[19:26] The Bureau of

[19:28] Alcohol Control...

[19:28] Well, let's take

[19:30] this modification...

[19:33] Yeah, so we think it's a

[19:34] modification.

[19:35] This completely new

[19:36] solution will be

[19:37] recorded.

[19:37] Yes.

[19:38] Good?

[19:38] Is

[19:39] there a second for

[19:40] discussion?

[19:41] No. Is

[19:43] there an endorsement...

[19:44] I don't know what you

[19:45] mean, to be

[19:46] completely honest.

[19:47] For example,

[19:48] voting...

[19:49] Five minutes of this.

[19:50] Can you

[19:50] clarify this...five

[19:52] minutes?

[19:52] Yes. Yes.

[19:54] Good.

[19:54] I vote to

[19:55] approve

[19:56] the administrator's review of the

[19:58] attached ADU site plan. I do

[19:59] n't like how this is

[20:00] happening.

[20:01] We had to

[20:01] read this word

[20:02] for the

[20:03] main dwelling

[20:04] unit at

[20:05] 75 Laurel Avenue with the

[20:06] following conditions.

[20:08] First, except for

[20:09] any modifications

[20:10] necessary to

[20:11] comply with these conditions,

[20:12] any construction

[20:14] shall be

[20:15] substantially, consistent with the

[20:17] architectural plans

[20:19] at

[20:20] 75 Laurel Avenue, Situate,

[20:21] Massachusetts, issued by

[20:22] County Enterprise,

[20:23] consisting of

[20:24] four updated

[20:26] sheets showing

[20:27] windbreaks, elevations,

[20:28] ADU floor plans with

[20:30] floor area,

[20:31] cross-

[20:32] sections, and

[20:33] framing layout,

[20:34] and the plans at

[20:37] 75 Laurel Avenue, Situate,

[20:38] Massachusetts, issued by

[20:39] Jay Webb Wedding Consulting LLC dated

[20:40] April 15, 2026, as

[20:42] revised on 9/9/2026,

[20:43] consisting of

[20:44] one sheet.

[20:45] Second, the ADU cannot

[20:46] be used

[20:47] for short-term

[20:49] rental housing as

[20:50] defined by

[20:51] zoning law. A restrictive

[20:52] covenant must be

[20:53] recorded on the property to

[20:54] this effect prior to

[20:56] any permit to

[20:57] operate an

[20:57] additional dwelling

[20:59] unit. This agreement

[21:01] shall extend

[21:03] to the city and be

[21:04] enforceable by the city

[21:05] through

[21:06] injunctive relief

[21:07] , and the

[21:08] property owner

[21:09] shall

[21:10] pay the city

[21:11] reasonable legal

[21:12] fees and expenses of

[21:13] successfully enforcing

[21:14] any violation of the

[21:15] restrictive covenant.

[21:18] Further expansion of

[21:19] the area of the

[21:20] dwelling

[21:20] subject to renovation shall not

[21:21] be permitted without

[21:22] further review by the

[21:23] Planning Board.

[21:24] Since the owner is not

[21:25] required

[21:26] to reside in the

[21:26] main living

[21:27] space of the

[21:28] additional

[21:28] living space

[21:30] , he owns both the

[21:30] main and the

[21:31] living space

[21:32] subject to renovation.

[21:33] Fifth, all requirements of the

[21:34] Board of Health

[21:35] , Department of

[21:36] Buildings,

[21:38] Zoning Board of Appeals,

[21:39] Department of

[21:39] Public Works,

[21:40] Fire Department,

[21:41] Conservation Commission,

[21:42] and other

[21:43] city agencies

[21:44] must be

[21:44] met prior to

[21:45] occupancy of the

[21:46] dwelling. Sixth,

[21:47] the dwelling

[21:48] must comply with

[21:49] all applicable

[21:50] standards in

[21:50] construction,

[21:51] plumbing,

[21:51] electrical, gas,

[21:52] mechanical, fire

[21:53] safety, and

[21:54] health, if

[21:54] applicable.

[21:55] Seventh, the connection to the

[21:56] water supply and

[21:57] sewerage system must

[21:58] meet all

[21:58] the requirements of

[21:59] the water supply and

[22:00] sewerage

[22:00] departments

[22:01] of the Department of

[22:01] Housing and

[22:02] Water Supply.

[22:03] Eighth, the installed

[22:04] lighting should be

[22:05] lower. We want to

[22:06] shed light on a

[22:07] promising project

[22:08] . Now, construction

[22:09] work must not

[22:10] begin before

[22:12] 7:00 a.m. on weekdays and 8:00

[22:13] a.m. on Saturdays and

[22:14] must end

[22:15] no later than 7:00 p.m. or

[22:16] sunset, whichever

[22:17] comes

[22:18] first.

[22:19] No construction

[22:20] shall be conducted

[22:21] on Sundays or on

[22:22] state and

[22:23] federal holidays.

[22:24] Construction includes

[22:26] vehicle idling

[22:27] , delivery of materials

[22:28] to the construction

[22:29] site, and all other

[22:30] construction work.

[22:31] Parking of any

[22:33] vehicles

[22:34] at this location is

[22:34] prohibited. 10. Drainage

[22:36] from the proposed

[22:37] APU should not be

[22:38] reduced from the

[22:39] site. 11.

[22:42] Erosion and

[22:43] sedimentation controls shall be installed to

[22:43] prevent

[22:44] erosion

[22:45] or sedimentation from entering the

[22:46] construction

[22:47] site during

[22:47] construction. If

[22:48] necessary, mud socks should be

[22:49] used

[22:51] in conjunction with a

[22:51] stabilized

[22:53] construction entrance. 12.

[22:53] The decision must be

[22:54] reviewed by the Board

[22:56] of Selectmen before a

[22:57] building permit is issued, and a copy

[22:59] must be provided to the

[23:00] planning office. There is

[23:01] no basement. This is

[23:02] number 13.

[23:04] The basement is not shown on the plans.

[23:05] I respect them.

[23:07] So, you wanted to

[23:08] add a condition that

[23:09] the path from the

[23:10] driveway to the

[23:10] attached person

[23:12] must be added on the

[23:13] east side of

[23:14] the house.

[23:15] Yes.

[23:16] Just a deed of easement.

[23:20] You did a good job.

[23:22] So, you are all "in

[23:23] favor".

[23:25] Let me

[23:26] check your file

[23:27] yesterday. You did a pretty

[23:28] good job.

[23:29] Thank you.

[23:29] very much. Good luck to you.

[23:31] And thank you. Good

[23:32] luck.

[23:32] Thank you. Take care of yourself.

[23:34] So, we have your

[23:35] old business here. Wow,

[23:36] let's end

[23:37] this. Old things,

[23:38] new things.

[23:39] Uh, if you can

[23:40] figure out

[23:41] what you don't know,

[23:42] okay? So

[23:43] keep going. These,

[23:51] I know, are the minutes of

[23:53] August 27 and September 10,

[23:55] 2026.

[23:56] Second.

[23:58] Kevin.

[23:58] All in favor.

[23:59] Yes.

[24:00] Let's start. I am proposing

[24:02] accounting

[24:05] purchase orders number 2703145 in

[24:07] the amount of $200,745

[24:09] for appraisal services

[24:12] related to project

[24:14] 703145. Number 2703146 in

[24:16] the amount of $500 for

[24:18] appraisal services

[24:20] related to

[24:22] project 90-96 Duckwood Road

[24:24] . 2703464 in the amount of $

[24:29] 335.77 for office

[24:33] supplies. 2703500 in

[24:37] the amount of $700 for

[24:38] internal

[24:41] county contingencies related to storm

[24:42] drain permits

[24:44] for 18

[24:46] manholes.

[24:47] And it still continues.

[24:49] H2C2 2703501 in the amount of $

[24:51] 725,725 for the return of

[24:53] contingency

[24:55] security funds

[24:57] related to the

[25:00] stormwater permit at

[25:02] 55 Common Street.

[25:04] Second.

[25:06] All in favor.

[25:07] Yes.

[25:08] Okay, so we clearly

[25:09] need to get the

[25:10] additional funds that

[25:11] the CCP wants to spend.

[25:13] Well, you know who

[25:14] they are.

[25:17] And this, uh, there

[25:18] was a meeting yesterday morning, and

[25:19] the administration was

[25:20] unable to be

[25:21] present, along with

[25:22] the people from the city and the

[25:23] family, and I'm going to try to

[25:24] go ahead and buy the

[25:26] swamp.

[25:27] Photograph of

[25:28] wetlands.

[25:29] Um, I'll look at something else

[25:31] . Did

[25:31] you get any

[25:32] alcohol?

[25:33] This is for new roof tiles

[25:35] and stuff, but

[25:37] how many dollars for the

[25:39] junior high school?

[25:41] Yes.

[25:41] How can you approve

[25:42] something you

[25:43] don't have a plan for? I just

[25:44] have to ask you. We do

[25:46] n't know. Good.

[25:48] Let's keep

[25:49] this going and

[25:50] see if that's all.

[25:51] Yes.

[25:52] Ha?

[25:52] Let's keep

[25:53] this moving forward and keep

[25:54] it visible and

[25:54] readable.

[25:55] Good.

[25:56] And then, um, the park.

[25:58] Keep moving

[25:59] forward.

[26:00] Good. This will be

[26:01] carried forward.

[26:02] Yes.

[26:02] Good. So, here it is. And

[26:05] then I moved on to

[26:06] travel rules, and

[26:08] there was some

[26:08] discussion about

[26:09] traffic,

[26:10] parking, etc. in

[26:11] Sand Hills and on Ocean

[26:13] Side Drive. If you

[26:18] look at

[26:19] the traffic in

[26:20] many places, I

[26:21] suggested that if

[26:23] it's, um, Airbnb, then the

[26:24] property owners

[26:25] should notify

[26:26] their people.

[26:29] But they want a

[26:30] hotel. There are certain things

[26:31] you can do

[26:32] and certain things you

[26:33] can't do. This is

[26:34] not up to the

[26:35] planning board. But

[26:38] people have to... Well,

[26:39] property owners

[26:41] , they're going to

[26:42] do Airbnb, then they

[26:43] need to let

[26:44] their guests know. Are there

[26:48] certain things and

[26:49] restrictions on

[26:50] parking, etc., etc.

[26:51] I mean, that's what

[26:52] I suggested,

[26:53] whether it will be continued

[26:55] or not remains to be

[26:56] seen.

[26:56] I tried to find a

[26:57] historical commission

[26:59] on Fitzwilliam, and

[27:00] of course I don't think

[27:01] they had a quorum.

[27:02] Of course, I couldn't

[27:03] find any

[27:04] meetings. So, I don't

[27:05] think they would vote for it

[27:06] . But

[27:07] public opinion

[27:08] regarding

[27:09] Fitzwilliam's project was very

[27:10] broad. So I

[27:12] did.

[27:13] It used to be bowling

[27:15] , right? What was that?

[27:17] Was it a beach club?

[27:20] It was a beach club

[27:21] before it became a beach

[27:22] club, something else, I

[27:23] thought.

[27:24] I don't know if it was

[27:25] Clark, or

[27:26] Clark's Cheese Factory, or

[27:27] something. I don't know, I

[27:28] think it was a

[27:29] beach club.

[27:30] They want to

[27:31] rebuild.

[27:32] Yes. And put

[27:33] the junk in the house there.

[27:34] Hmm. Okay, so has everyone else

[27:39] met you

[27:40] guys? Karen?

[27:45] We

[27:46] visited the site at 19

[27:47] Union Street today

[27:49] so that, um, our

[27:50] consulting engineer, his

[27:51] traffic engineer,

[27:53] and several

[27:54] city

[27:54] departments could

[27:55] see the site and so that

[27:57] when they

[27:57] write their

[27:59] comments, um, you would be

[28:00] well informed.

[28:03] Um, the first public

[28:04] hearing will be held on

[28:06] October 22nd.

[28:07] That is, it gets

[28:08] there.

[28:09] That's 48 minutes, um, after the

[28:11] build. After

[28:14] construction. Um,

[28:17] and the cemetery is not included

[28:18] . It cannot be.

[28:20] No, it's not their

[28:21] property. There

[28:22] is no cemetery there.

[28:23] Yes, I just said it's

[28:24] not included.

[28:25] This is not their property.

[28:26] But people asked me about it

[28:27] . I have to know.

[28:28] But they are proposing

[28:29] improvements to Union

[28:30] Street. I mean,

[28:32] on the lot they

[28:33] claim, quote

[28:34] the lot, Union Street

[28:36] runs through it.

[28:38] And so they

[28:38] propose a complete

[28:39] change in the classification of

[28:41] its parts. So, you know

[28:42] , but stay tuned

[28:43] . You

[28:44] will get, you will get

[28:46] plans. Anyone who

[28:47] wants their stuff now

[28:48] can get it. Um,

[28:51] I emailed

[28:53] a few construction

[28:54] sites and told

[28:55] everyone it was best to

[28:56] leave it for this

[28:57] weekend. Um,

[29:01] what's your lawn doing?

[29:02] They reached

[29:03] the water main, yes, in

[29:04] Neil Gate Street

[29:05] today.

[29:05] Right there this

[29:07] morning.

[29:07] Yes, they did it.

[29:09] Um, and they have a

[29:12] contractor.

[29:14] For what?

[29:14] 48, 48, Neil Gate Street.

[29:17] Three five-by-

[29:18] five plots. Yes, four

[29:19] single-family homes.

[29:21] Yes.

[29:21] What destroyed the hill.

[29:23] Yes.

[29:24] And all of this really used to be

[29:25] ...uh...

[29:26] They stabilized

[29:27] him. You...

[29:29] A few areas

[29:30] they were working on

[29:32] ...I think they

[29:33] were trying

[29:33] to hook up the water...Uh, you

[29:35] know, I told them

[29:36] they needed to

[29:37] stabilize it by

[29:38] tomorrow.

[29:42] Is the...er

[29:44] ...water treatment plant stabilized?

[29:47] I don't know if I would

[29:48] say that. I agree,

[29:50] I haven't been to the

[29:51] water treatment

[29:52] plant site in a long time, but I know

[29:53] they

[29:53] paved it...They

[29:55] paved it at the

[29:56] water treatment plant.

[29:58] No, everything...the entire

[29:59] area...

[30:00] They

[30:00] paved the entire area. So I

[30:03] sent them a

[30:04] signal too. So, uh, I

[30:08] hope people

[30:09] listen to them.

[30:13] I think a lot of

[30:15] sludge will end up in

[30:16] the tank.

[30:17] I know. I would too, but I

[30:20] mean, I think

[30:21] they...but they

[30:22] were very...uh...They...

[30:24] they listen to everything

[30:26] you say. They won't

[30:27] , right? They...

[30:29] No, I wouldn't say

[30:30] they listen to everything

[30:31] I say.

[30:32] We were respectful.

[30:33] Good.

[30:35] I had, you know, a few

[30:36] conversations with them about

[30:37] different things. I wouldn't

[30:40] say they're

[30:41] listening. I mean, we

[30:44] got a complaint from

[30:45] the neighbors when they

[30:46] started

[30:47] paving early, um,

[30:48] you know, so they

[30:49] listen to everything? No, but they

[30:53] were warned that it shouldn't

[30:54] happen

[30:55] again.

[30:56] PJ when will it be

[30:57] done for the roads and

[30:58] that gas station was at 6:30

[31:00] am.

[31:01] Well, I mean,

[31:02] it's not under our

[31:03] control. What is under

[31:04] our control is

[31:06] 7:00. And I also sent an

[31:08] email

[31:09] to Huckleberry School

[31:10] this week because

[31:12] someone told me that

[31:13] trucks were coming at 6:15 on a

[31:14] country road, and

[31:16] I know where they were

[31:17] going, and they said they were

[31:18] taking out some

[31:19] materials. I said I didn't

[31:21] care, it was

[31:23] 7:00. And they had already

[31:25] been warned about this

[31:26] before.

[31:28] And they are going too

[31:29] fast.

[31:31] Well, the police have been working on

[31:33] this for a while.

[31:34] Now they

[31:35] have stopped.

[31:35] Well, because

[31:36] the trucks for that

[31:37] part of the operation

[31:39] have stopped. So,

[31:41] from what I understand,

[31:42] they needed to get

[31:43] some

[31:44] materials out, so they

[31:45] had about eight

[31:46] semi-trailers,

[31:47] you know, in the morning and

[31:50] eight at noon. But

[31:53] that doesn't excuse them

[31:54] for not

[31:55] sticking to the schedule

[31:56] . So that probably

[31:57] means they're

[31:58] letting them into the

[31:59] facility too early.

[32:03] Good. Um, you know,

[32:06] we have a lot of

[32:07] projects coming up, so we're

[32:08] staying very, busy. Um, and

[32:12] I'll just tell you that

[32:14] there is no way

[32:15] forward for the

[32:17] subsidized housing inventory

[32:18] for homes for sale

[32:19] as it is currently

[32:20] modeled.

[32:24] Repeat this again.

[32:26] There is no

[32:27] path forward for

[32:28] obtaining a home for

[32:30] sale under the

[32:31] subsidized housing inventory

[32:33] under the current model.

[32:36] So, we have no

[32:38] capital.

[32:38] No, we don't have any.

[32:42] So, it's successful.

[32:44] Inventory, right?

[32:46] Yes. Yes.

[32:47] People are very happy.

[32:49] I see that the light is

[32:50] brighter now.

[32:52] Really happy. This is all I have

[32:55] .

[32:57] Good.

[32:58] Something else? No.

[32:59] Proposal to

[33:00] postpone

[33:01] the meeting.

[33:02] Second.

[33:02] All in favor?

[33:03] Yes.

Scituate Planning Board Meeting - 09-24-2026

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