[6:42] I'm Mayor Muhammad Egalo, mayor of city of CAG. It's 6 p.m. here in Western

[6:47] Washington, July 28, 2026. I'm calling to order for CAG

[6:54] city council uh meeting. Uh, Christina, will you take the roll

[6:59] call, please? >> Mayor Muhammad Eagle

[7:02] » here. >> Council members Caitlyn Ca here. Peter

[7:05] Quan, >> I'm here.

[7:07] » And Joe Benson, >> present.

[7:09] » And we have excused absent Deputy Mayor Site Nagusi. Council members James

[7:14] Levelvel and Badria Abdulahi. >> All right. Okay. So, let's salute the

[7:20] flag. >> And I'm not sure that we have a flag in

[7:23] here. >> We we trust Abra.

[7:26] » Yeah. Okay. Oh, look there. Yes.

[7:59] The first an item in the agenda is um the pro and con committee um agenda

[8:08] bill 6969 a motion and and to appoint for uh members

[8:14] uh statement for or against. As of today, the city has not received it any

[8:22] one interesting in pro or con and the city our city manager has the full

[8:29] authority to appointed if someone is interesting to be appointed for the next

[8:33] few and days. Uh the next item will be comment uh public comment. Do do we have

[8:41] committees?

[8:45] » I don't have a sheet. I'm sorry. There is. Okay.

[8:49] » If anyone wanted to make a comment, uh he or she will.

[8:53] » Lisa is trying to grab it. We do not have anybody remote or um or written.

[8:59] We're just waiting for the sheet. >> All right.

[9:27] Sorry about that. Looks like a um Dr. Ted Clark.

[9:32] » Ted, >> welcome. You will have three minutes.

[9:35] The podium is here. Uh someone show the Mr. Clark on how to use the microphone

[9:42] and you will have three beautiful minutes. Thank you, sir. You're welcome.

[9:47] » Okay. Good evening, mayor, council members. I represent Culture Generation.

[9:53] I'm a board member. Uh, I'm here tonight to provide a brief update regarding

[9:59] unresolved matters between Culture Generation and Seattle Southside

[10:03] Regional Tourism Authority concerning Culture Generation's World Table

[10:09] Trademark Program, name, and brand. As a 501c3 nonprofit organization entrusted

[10:17] with public funding, Culture Generation is committed to to complete

[10:21] transparency. Our responsibility is to ensure that the public understands how

[10:27] these resources are being used and the impact they create for the communities.

[10:33] World Table trademark was developed in September 2025 based on a culmination of

[10:39] 20 years of experience and knowledge as a cultural tourism and storytelling

[10:44] telling program created by culture generation to connect the public with

[10:50] immigrant bipok and underserved communities through cultural experience

[10:54] and community partnership. As part of these matters, addressing

[11:00] these matters, we are seeking clarity regarding how SSRTA became aware of

[11:06] Culture Generations World Table trademark program, name, and brand in

[11:12] 2025, as well as questions

[11:16] related to statements presented to city council in November 2024 regarding

[11:22] Culture Generations tours, programs, and funding for the 2025 and 2026 culinary

[11:29] tourism work. There may have been confusion regarding Culture Generations

[11:34] affiliation with SSRTA's International Dining District Program

[11:39] because of certain statements made to members of city council in November

[11:45] 2024. It is our contention that SSRTA

[11:50] incorrectly created false association between SSRTA

[11:55] and cultured generation in order for SSRTA to be awarded contracts for its

[12:03] international Dining District program for 2025 and 2026.

[12:09] SSRTA disputes this contention and our respective lawyers are addressing this

[12:16] matter. My purpose in coming here tonight is not

[12:21] to discuss legal matters but to emphasize transpar transparency and

[12:26] honesty with public funding requiring absolutely

[12:31] um accuracy in representing and respect for the community. Culture Generation is

[12:38] in the process of discussing its disputes regarding Culture Generation's

[12:44] World Table brand in program with SSRTA. Questions about this dispute can be

[12:50] fielded by our legal council Tim Bilick. Culture Generation is focused on

[12:57] advancing equity. >> The three minutes is up.

[13:01] » I've got I've got one sentence. Can I finish?

[13:06] Okay. Thank Okay. >> We we have rules that we cannot go more

[13:11] than three minutes. >> I just have one.

[13:14] » Thank you very much. I just submit your written statement to the city cler.

[13:18] » Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. All right. Um the next

[13:22] item in the [clears throat] agenda will be uh because we didn't have watch so I

[13:26] was wondering within 30. Yeah. So next time we will

[13:30] have watch on the on the wall. Okay. To be fair to all all all be uh the next

[13:36] item will be recitation from four actually emergency management awareness

[13:41] month proclamation. It will be five minutes and it will be delivered by not

[13:46] other than council member. >> Thank you Mr. Mayor. Oo sorry.

[13:52] [laughter] Let's try this again. Uh thank you Mr.

[13:56] Mayor. This is the emergency management awareness month proclamation.

[14:00] Whereas emergencies and disasters can occur unexpectedly posing significant

[14:04] threats to life, property, and the environment within the city of SeaTac.

[14:09] And whereas emergency managers locally and across all sectors, community

[14:14] leaders, local governments, and the Federal Emergency Management Agency, aka

[14:18] FEMA, dedicate countless hours to developing preparedness, response,

[14:23] recovery, and mitigation programs to protect the lives and property of all

[14:28] persons living within the United States, United States territories, Washington

[14:33] state, and the city of SeaTac. And whereas emergency managers across the

[14:39] state of Washington are charged with establishing and maintaining the

[14:43] capabilities necessary to effectively direct, coordinate, and support

[14:48] emergency and disaster response and recovery efforts. And whereas the

[14:53] mission areas of prevention, protection, mitigation, response, and recovery align

[14:58] with the core capabilities identified in the national preparedness goal. And

[15:03] whereas the emergency managers serve the nation by responding to countless

[15:09] emergencies and disasters each year, demonstrating commitment, compassion,

[15:14] and professionalism in protecting the public. And whereas the efforts of our

[15:20] nation's emergency managers have helped millions of community members across the

[15:25] United States recover, rebuild, and become more resilient in the face of

[15:30] adversity. Now, I therefore, Muhammad E Gaul, mayor

[15:35] of the city of SeaTac, this is actually council member Joe Vincent. On behalf of

[15:39] Mary G, on behalf of the city council, do hereby proclaim the month of August

[15:44] as National Emergency Management Awareness Month in the city of SeaTac in

[15:49] conjunction with the National Preparedness Month in September

[15:54] with the support of the International Association of Emergency Managers, the

[15:58] National Emergency Management Association, and the Washington State

[16:02] Emergency Management Association. I urge all community members to express their

[16:07] sincere appreciation for emergency managers in every sector who work

[16:12] diligently to prepare, protect, and serve our cities, counties, states,

[16:16] tribes, territories, regions, and organizations against all hazards and

[16:21] risk. Given under my hand and the seal of the city of SeaTac on this 28th day

[16:27] of July, 2026.

[16:37] This one is clearly different. We'll take two minutes or three minutes to

[16:41] take pictures with Mr. Luga and his team.

[16:43] » Yes. >> Thank you.

[17:02] I know.

[17:18] I'll be a second.

[17:25] One, two,

[17:54] All right. Um we back. Um the next item in the agenda will be 2026 parks

[18:01] recreation and open spaces plan update. It will be 40 minutes and it will led by

[18:07] pros consulting incorporate principal consultant Brian Trust and

[18:14] and yes go ahead. >> Uh good evening mayor and council

[18:18] members. Um so uh as mayor you just said it's the 2026 parks recreation open

[18:25] space plan update and um what we're going to be listening to today is a

[18:32] recreation program plan um update on that component of the plan. So there are

[18:37] multiple facets of this plan. Um this is just one piece and please welcome Brian

[18:43] Trusty who is the principal for Pros Consulting Inc.

[18:48] Thank you, Mary. Let me take just a moment and pull up

[18:53] the presentation.

[18:59] All right, that work. Is that sharing properly?

[19:03] Excellent. Mayor, members of the council, thank you very much for having

[19:07] me this evening. It's my pleasure to be in front of you that to share you with

[19:11] you an update of where we are with the parks, recreation, and open span open

[19:15] space plan update for the city of SeaTac. We've been hard at work for the

[19:19] last we have a lot of exciting things to

[19:22] share with you. Go into some of the things that we've learned so far. I want

[19:26] just as a quick reminder about what this plan is about and what we're trying to

[19:30] accomplish with it. So, this is a plan that is absolutely found very robust,

[19:35] accessible, and inclusive community engagement. We have a number of

[19:38] community engagement things that are happening as we speak that we'll talk

[19:42] about. We've also had a number of other uh activities that have already occurred

[19:46] including many interviews and focus groups including all of you. This is not

[19:51] our plan. This is your plan. This is the plan for the the residents and community

[19:54] members of CATAC. So certainly want to make sure that we are wellounded in

[19:59] strong community engagement and the findings that come from that. We also

[20:03] want to make sure that this is a plan that represents some equitable uh equity

[20:07] across the community that people have the opportunity and the access to

[20:12] participate in a variety of dynamic recreation experiences to experience

[20:16] wonderful worldclass parks no matter where they live or what their uh

[20:20] backgrounds may be. We want to make sure we build this in data and best practices

[20:24] not only from across the region in the Puet Sound but state of Washington and

[20:28] nationally that we really recognize too that the city's park system is also one

[20:33] of your largest footprints of green infrastructure. So thinking about our

[20:37] park system through that lens as well and not just as a recreational asset,

[20:42] but also setting up the organization and the city for financial resiliency,

[20:46] organizational excellence, and having a dynamic and realistic action plan at the

[20:51] end that is the right thoughtful blend of things that are realistic, but that

[20:55] also are aspirational. There are a lot of things that go into this plan. I'm

[20:59] not going to read through all of this, but we've talked a little bit about all

[21:02] the public and stakeholder engagement that really understanding where you are

[21:05] today in your current system, the the conditions of your parks, of your

[21:09] facilities, facilities like this one which are a part of that network. Really

[21:13] also how uh this plan speaks to the goals and connectivity around the

[21:18] community and the right levels of service. Benchmarking against other

[21:21] communities of similar nature and as well as those that may have more

[21:25] aspirational aspects to them. understanding where you are in your

[21:28] recreational programs, the de demographics of the community, where

[21:31] that's going in the next 10 years, and how that fits into the community, the

[21:35] city's overall development priorities. It really is a three-step process of

[21:40] understanding where we are today, doing a lot of thorough assessments that we've

[21:45] have some findings for today. Tonight we'll share with you getting to the more

[21:49] exciting part of the plan which we call the ideiation phase or where we're going

[21:52] tomorrow really developing those strategies that put CEK in a proactive

[21:57] position uh moving forward over the next 5 to 10 years and then the

[22:01] implementation phase which is how we get there

[22:05] just to get good sense of where we are in the pro this is a nine-month process

[22:10] that began really in earnest in March uh and so we are on track to complete the

[22:15] complete the plan and be back with you. Uh will be in front of you before then

[22:20] too with additional findings. But for uh review and final adoption by the end of

[22:24] the calendar year. So you can see that dark red line running vertically. We're

[22:28] a little bit or almost halfway. We're not quite halfway, but we are on track

[22:33] with all the various tasks that you see running down the left side of the screen

[22:36] that are involved in the process. So there's a number of analyses in our

[22:41] scope of work that we are working through. Of course, community engagement

[22:45] occurs throughout that, but we started off first with a SWAT analysis with

[22:49] staff and other stakeholders, understanding where you are from a

[22:52] demographics and recreational trends perspective as a community, conditions

[22:56] of your sites and facilities, how your parks are classified, the levels of

[23:01] service, doing a lot of GIS analysis, looking at proximity of PE, the

[23:05] 10-minute walk shed to parks, recreation program analysis, prioritization, a

[23:10] capital improvement plan, uh implementation strategies, and funding.

[23:13] and revenue strategies will complete our scope of work.

[23:17] As I mentioned, a robust and accessible community engagement process is at the

[23:21] heart of this plan. So, as you can see, we are engaging in a number of different

[23:26] methodologies here. So, we've started off the process with key stakeholder

[23:30] interviews and focus groups. Those will continue as we move through the process

[23:34] and we have findings that will also inform additional questions that we may

[23:38] may want to ask key stakeholder groups. We've had one public workshop already on

[23:44] the 25th of March. We have the second of three tomorrow night here in this

[23:48] building. We have initiated statistically valid surveys. I hear one

[23:53] of your very own has already received one in her household. So, uh that's a

[23:57] process that's ongoing as we speak. I'll talk a little bit more as we go along in

[24:01] this presentation about that. We have a project website that also includes an

[24:05] online survey that's a mirror image of the statistically valid survey and and

[24:10] provides also a GI interactive GIS mapping tool. Members of the community

[24:15] can get in and drop specific comments in specific locations around town.

[24:21] So what have we obviously you're a community that's a very unique in its

[24:26] and nature you are experiencing slow but steady growth. um you are landlocked so

[24:32] you have a lot of growth uh issues and growth oftentimes resulted in density in

[24:38] the community that al has implications around trails and parks. You have a

[24:43] large presence of families with children and I'll show a slide here in a minute

[24:46] that looking at some of the age segmentation

[24:50] across you're a community that's growing only

[24:53] slowly. You're diversifying much faster. So, you are a community of already great

[24:58] diversity. Um, and that is continuing to grow as is projected to grow over the

[25:03] next 10 to 15 years. And one of the more unique things about your park system in

[25:08] particular, but it also, I'm sure, impacts all public infrastructure that

[25:12] you manage is the massive impact from non-resident users and transient users.

[25:17] So, just from the airport alone, you have over a hundred unique visitors a

[25:21] day. But you it's not just those transient visitors that are impacting

[25:25] your parks and trails system in particular. You have some very popular

[25:29] facilities. This this one in which we're here this evening included that are

[25:34] popular in the region. And so they gain they they attract a lot of

[25:37] non-residential uses from neighboring communities such as Burian and Tuckila

[25:41] and Bzmoines. And so that's something to take into account as we think about the

[25:45] park the future of the park system and how the city of SeaTac can manage with

[25:49] that in mind. So here's a couple of demographic slides

[25:54] that probably is a a recap of things you already know very well. But as you can

[25:59] see on the left side as we look at age segmentations and the two largest age

[26:03] segments are the gray area which is 18 to 34 and the yellow area which is 35 to

[26:09] 54. That tells us you have a lot of young adults. You have a lot of young

[26:13] families and middle-aged folks that are living here. Not to overshadow the

[26:17] importance of the needs of everyone else on this age segment scale, but that is

[26:20] generally what we're seeing as a trend in in your community when it comes to

[26:24] age segmentation. And that is a that is a those are segments of the population

[26:28] that are going to continue to be fairly steady as we move through the next 10,

[26:32] 15, and 20 years. And then, as you can see on the slide on the right, uh your

[26:37] city's population by race and how that has rapidly and uh diversified even

[26:42] since the 2010 census. [snorts] and continues to be to project to be

[26:47] diversifying as you move forward. This is going to be critical as you think

[26:51] about your recreation program offerings. Uh you are already on top of this as a

[26:55] city as you make so much of your uh information available in multiple

[26:59] languages including the statistically valid survey that we sent out associated

[27:03] with this project. I mentioned we had a public meeting on

[27:08] uh March the 25th. It was right here in this room. It was very well attended.

[27:11] Some of you may have also been there that evening. So, we had we shared a a

[27:16] lot about what this plan was. We also opened it up to the floor for general

[27:20] Q&A from members of the public. And then we had several activity tables around

[27:24] the back of the room that as we um broke out of a more present formal

[27:28] presentation style, folks could gravitate towards various tables that

[27:32] reflect their interest and provide some additional comments and insights. So

[27:37] some of the things the headlines that we learned early on and from that first

[27:40] meeting was the need to update [clears throat] and improve this center.

[27:44] This center interestingly enough was created um almost right after the

[27:49] formation of the city of SeaTac itself. So it it tracks at about 40 years old

[27:54] about the same age as the city itself which also is a reflection of how

[27:58] important recreation is to this community as this was one of the first

[28:02] major infrastructure projects the city invested in.

[28:06] » [snorts] >> As we mentioned about the importance of

[28:08] the green infrastructure of your park system, thinking about the tree canopy,

[28:12] that's come up from a lot of stakeholders. And of course, a lot of

[28:15] that is contained within parks and and greenways. The importance of adaptive

[28:19] and inclusivities

[28:23] like playgrounds and sport courts. The importance of safety and the perception

[28:27] of safety. Improved trails that offer continued protection against vehicular

[28:32] traffic. is this this is a community that continues to increase in density

[28:36] that will become more important. Improving community awareness about

[28:40] events and programs and offerings that are out there, additional adult

[28:44] programming, additional preschool and family programming and the importance of

[28:48] arts and culture programming in parks and in of course the recreation

[28:52] portfolio itself. We had an interesting exercise in one of

[28:57] those activity tables where we gave folks 10 coins and we asked them to

[29:01] distribute it across these six different priorities as how they would like to see

[29:05] public funding uh invested within the city of SeaTac. And we gave them the

[29:10] options of developing new parks and trails, improving existing parks and

[29:13] trails, improving existing recreation facilities, developing new programs,

[29:18] developing new recreation facilities, and improving existing programs. As you

[29:22] can see how folks voted on that one particular exercise. That's just one

[29:26] data point for this whole process. And we are asking a very similar question to

[29:30] this on the statistically valid survey and the online survey. What was really a

[29:35] little bit unusual is we almost always see improving existing parks and trails

[29:39] as the number one priority and in this case it came in number two. Developing

[29:43] new parks and trails was the one that folks voted for the most in that one

[29:47] activity. So far, the online survey that's on the

[29:52] project website, which can be accessed at this QR code. I also saw a poster out

[29:56] in the lobby here of the community center that also has a QR code to this

[29:59] website. So far, we've had a little over 550 visits to the site. This is as of

[30:04] late last week. Uh, a total of 68 responses to the survey. I would love to

[30:09] see our online survey responses grow to somewhere between two to 400, if not

[30:14] higher than that. So, we have some work to do in promoting this survey and

[30:18] getting folks to use it. So far, 17 folks have made contributions to the

[30:22] interactive mapping and three uh responses to the vision board. So, this

[30:26] we will keep this project website up throughout the entirety of the entire

[30:30] project. So, uh people will have plenty of opportunity to continue to access

[30:34] this. We hope to see um a surge after tomorrow night's public meeting as well.

[30:40] The graph you can see at the bottom of the screen actually shows when the

[30:43] traffic occurred to the website and we confirmed with staff like what was

[30:47] causing these spikes. Uh and what just happened to coincide around these spikes

[30:51] and traffic to the website were um events that were occurring around the

[30:55] community in which staff were uh having a table and promoting interaction with

[30:59] the with with the website. Al also some advertising activity that the department

[31:03] was doing. So we we know that that is h that is effective in pushing traffic to

[31:07] the website. So, one of those first early uh pro

[31:13] parts of the process was an assessment of all your sites and facilities. I'm

[31:16] going to be continuing that tomorrow while I'm in town, visiting all your

[31:20] firehouses as well and assessing those facilities since uh that is a

[31:24] maintenance responsibility of the parks and recreation team.

[31:28] But you can see you have a lot of parks that are in the uh excellent good

[31:32] category. Only a small handful and fair. No other parks are what we consider to

[31:35] be in poor condition. and how they've uh classified on the far right and their

[31:40] various their varied levels of usage there in the middle column. So what's

[31:44] also very important is you have some signature regional facilities here such

[31:48] as North Sea Park, the BMX Park, the dog park, this facility, um some of the new

[31:54] trail heads that you've been putting in. So this is something that's very

[31:58] important that you are you are putting in infrastructure that's not only

[32:00] important to your residents but it's important to the region.

[32:05] So Mary mentioned one of the big areas of uh what we'll be reporting on this

[32:09] evening is the analysis we've conducted on your recreation programs.

[32:14] [clears throat] So this is these are programs that are designed and delivered

[32:17] by by city staff and by contract support staff and you in in that portfolio you

[32:23] have over 93 distinct program and service offerings spread out across six

[32:29] core program areas core program and activity areas. So the program and

[32:34] activity areas that we were evaluating were aquatics activities, community

[32:38] recreation programs, senior programs, special events, youth and teen programs,

[32:42] and facility rentals and permits. That is how your program portfolio is

[32:47] organized. So we analyzed it within its own organizational context. So here's

[32:52] some of the things that we learned. One of the first things we looked at was how

[32:56] your programs serve various age segments within the community. Does it does it

[33:00] mirror the the demographics of the community itself? And what we saw is we

[33:04] saw broad age segmentation across all core program areas. What you're looking

[33:09] at in this table uh things that indicated with a P are those age

[33:14] segments that are served as a primary target audience for those various

[33:18] activity areas or program areas. Those that are indicated with an S are that

[33:22] they serve that age segment as a secondary audience. So you can see no

[33:27] age segment is left out and many age segments are very well covered. The

[33:32] table at the bottom looks at how those various age segments are served as

[33:35] either the primary audience or the secondary audience. So there's a lot

[33:39] more detail in this analysis as you can tell that are captured in the actual

[33:44] report itself. The second thing we wanted to look at is

[33:48] where your programs were in their life cycle. Are they brand new programs that

[33:52] you just rolled out? Are they programs that have been out for a year or two,

[33:56] but they're experiencing rapid growth? Are they mature or are they in a state

[34:00] of decline or saturation? And so what we see on the top is is on the the actual

[34:06] program distributions columns is how your programs cross are uh score across

[34:12] those various life cycles. And on the far right is the recommended

[34:15] distribution that we provide based on our experience as former parks and

[34:20] recreation directors ourselves as well as a national consulting firm seeing

[34:24] national best practices. So as far we bundled those first three categories you

[34:29] have 46% of your offerings fall in those first three categories which are

[34:33] introductory takeoff or growth phases. We recommend somewhere between 50 to 60%

[34:38] so you're just slightly below that recommended distribution. That's not a

[34:42] hard lift at all. Um, we you have about 36% of your offerings in the mature

[34:49] category, which is pretty much right at that recommended 40%. And then you have

[34:54] 18% of your offerings in those bottom three categories that are in either in a

[34:58] state of saturation, decline, or uh regularly canceled programs. We

[35:03] recommend that no more than about 10% of your program uh portfolio fall in these

[35:08] life cycle stages. So what this tells us, this is not a bad report. This is

[35:12] actually a very helpful report because as we think about what specific

[35:16] recommendations on improving your recreation programs, obviously some of

[35:20] the very first places we want to look are programs that may be in a state of

[35:24] saturation or decline or cancelling regularly. You know, a pre recreation

[35:30] program portfolio is very much like a rose bush. So, in order to get it to

[35:34] really bloom nicely, sometimes you have to trim a little bit and and cut back on

[35:39] some of those blooms that are that are um not as healthy on the vine. So, this

[35:44] is we and we know from the data that we collected with your staff exactly which

[35:48] programs fall in these categories. So, this gives us a it's almost like a

[35:52] targeting tool, if you will, as we think about how we can improve the program

[35:56] portfolio overall. This is a little bit of a setup slide to

[36:01] talk about program classification. So this is very common particularly in

[36:05] public parks and recreation agencies to organize your services in these three

[36:10] categories. Starting at the bottom of essential services. Those are services

[36:14] that are most closely aligned with your public mandate as a public service.

[36:19] These are things that public parks and recreations generally must provide as

[36:23] kind of a core service. That next tier up is what we call important services.

[36:27] So these are all of course mission aligned. These are the shouldd dos. Uh

[36:31] but as you move up this spectrum towards value added the benefits of

[36:35] participating in these programs are more exclusively enjoyed by the individual

[36:40] participant than they are providing broad community benefit. So a good

[36:44] example of essential services are things like learn to swim programs or senior

[36:48] lunches. These are things that really have a broad community benefit. Things

[36:53] that are usually category uh programs and important services are things like

[36:57] youth sports because it's very important that we keep our youth active. We give

[37:01] them the opportunity to learn and practice fair play and they uh stay

[37:06] healthy and well. But a a lot of the benefit of participating in those

[37:09] programs are also individually enjoyed by the participants and their families.

[37:14] And examples of value added services are things like senior trip and travel. So

[37:18] again, enrichment programs that are mission aligned, but the benefit of

[37:22] participating in that program is almost exclusively enjoyed by the participant

[37:26] themselves. So why is that important? What you see the graphic on the left is

[37:31] generally how when you think about that pyramid or those tiers of program

[37:36] classification, how the cost recovery and the pricing of those programs is is

[37:42] typically aligned according to national best practices. So for example on the

[37:47] broad community benefit essential services at the bottom of that pyramid

[37:50] generally these are programs that are mo most commonly free or highly highly

[37:55] subsidized. So cost recovery is very low 0 to 20%. And as you move up the

[38:01] spectrum and up the pyramid towards value added services generally more

[38:05] commonly you see see more aggressive cost recovery strategies engaged through

[38:09] pricing etc. So how do your programs far out? Uh that table across the top right

[38:16] shows the percentages of your offerings that fall in those various categories.

[38:19] So 28% of your offerings would be considered essential, 34 would be

[38:24] considered important and 38 considered value added. That is a very balanced

[38:28] approach. So I did not see any red flags here at all. Sometimes when I see things

[38:32] that may cause me concern, it was where I see the proportion of essential

[38:37] services being very low and the p proportion of value added services being

[38:41] very high. particularly in a community that may have broad uh economic

[38:46] disparities within it. So you are have a very balanced approach which is great

[38:51] and the pie chart just looks at that a little bit more graphically. You can see

[38:54] it's almost uh equally distributed across all three classifications.

[39:00] So how does that relate to the various pricing strategies that you use? So

[39:03] right now there you use 10 out of the 11 recommended strategies that we bring to

[39:08] the table. So it's a very well balanced approach there as well. Some of your

[39:11] strongest areas of use, the things that you use to inform how you would price a

[39:17] program are cost recovery goals that you may have for that program. You keep in

[39:21] mind the customers ability to pay and making sure that you have a regular

[39:26] availability of free free offerings in the portfolio for folks that may be

[39:30] economically disadvantaged. So as we think about ways in which we can improve

[39:35] the sophistication of your pricing strategies moving forward is effort to

[39:40] do a number of things. One is to be able to properly resource the department but

[39:45] also deal with this issue we talked about before which is the massive impact

[39:49] of non-resident usage on not only your facilities but your programs. So a lot

[39:54] of this data puts us in a great position to begin to have that discussion from a

[39:58] data driven perspective. So, what are some of our upcoming

[40:03] priorities? As I mentioned, we have our second public meeting tomorrow night

[40:06] here in this building. The statistically valid survey is out and we're

[40:10] anticipating the results by the end of August. We have initiated the part of

[40:14] the scope that includes developing park and trail design standards uh for the

[40:19] entire system. So, that was that we have a great team from Colorado called Logan

[40:23] Simpson that has started the discussion with staff about what that needs to look

[40:27] like. We'll be getting down into doing an operations and maintenance analysis

[40:31] in the next six to eight weeks. We're developing a toolkit which will really

[40:35] help to digitize and formalize a lot of your training and professional

[40:39] development uh for you know ensuring that you are not only a great public

[40:44] service but a modernized employer of choice and then we'll get into specific

[40:50] strategies and recommendations and finally a third public meeting to a date

[40:54] to be determined. there will be multiple touch points for us to be back and have

[40:58] these kind of conversations with you all as well during this process and

[41:01] especially as we have more to learn and to share and we have that puts us in a

[41:05] position to start thinking about strategies.

[41:08] So again I'm going to close with a reminder this is a screenshot of our of

[41:13] our project website. This is where folks can access the online survey and the

[41:18] interactive mapping tool and the vision board. We are trying to promote this

[41:22] every chance we get. We appreciate your help in doing so as well with your

[41:25] constituents cuz it's more responses we have the better this project is. So,

[41:30] thank you very much for your attention tonight and I believe we have some time

[41:32] for questions. >> Thank you very much, Mr. Trust. Um,

[41:37] council member, any questions?

[41:43] » Thank you so much for the presentation. Um, I do I just have one question. Um,

[41:48] this is all really exciting. Um, could we go back to the program life

[41:54] cycles? You >> bet.

[41:56] » And I apologize to my colleagues. Would you just rebrief me on the purpose of

[42:03] this slide? I I was just having trouble following along. Um, but from my

[42:07] understanding is that this is talking about not

[42:12] how many like it's not like the um like if you have like a a pottery class, not

[42:17] like a beginner's level, but like the actual lifespan of the class. Is that

[42:21] correct? >> It's the life cycle of the program

[42:24] itself. So, okay, let's say it's a pottery class that the department just

[42:29] started last season. So, that would be probably one that they would categorize

[42:33] in the introduction phase. If it's a pottery class that's been

[42:37] around for 10 years and they've just continually provided it, but it has

[42:42] steady participation, it would fall in that mature phase. If it's a program

[42:46] that's maybe it's been around for three, four, five years, but they continue to

[42:51] see declining participation, then that would be in the saturation or declining

[42:56] phase. So this is almost like a performance metric of where the programs

[43:00] are, how they're performing in their own life cycle.

[43:03] » Okay. So it looks like largely our programs as they're introduced are

[43:08] sustaining themselves. >> Correct. Okay.

[43:10] » Correct. And there's opportunity to refine the portfolio by looking at some

[43:14] of the ones that are in the saturation and decline phase.

[43:17] » Excellent. Thank you for the clarification. Um that is all I have.

[43:21] [snorts] >> Thank you member.

[43:24] » Thank you. Um so I I have a few observations and um

[43:30] suggestions I guess. So um I I've been actively um either observing and or

[43:37] participating in various different programs just to see you know um how our

[43:42] constituents uh are enjoying themselves uh and uh what sort of impact and how

[43:48] the organization work and all of that stuff. Okay. So um

[43:53] regarding the program classification uh when we are considering value added

[43:59] services versus essential services I agree with all of that but then when we

[44:03] go to individual and community benefits the

[44:08] I agree with that as well. Uh I think the community benefits should be focused

[44:14] on CEC local community benefits and and here's why. Uh so I'll I'll use the BMX

[44:20] track as an example and uh that is uh you know uh like a value added service.

[44:27] Um wonderful programming. It actually has um they organize events that are uh

[44:33] attended worldwide by international um folks attend these events and they

[44:39] travel uh come to our city specifically for these events uh as part of the the

[44:44] world BMX championships or whatever it's called. Um hundreds of families attend

[44:52] uh children and uh even grandparents participate as well. super super um

[44:59] community benefit there uh as well as individual benefit. However, it probably

[45:04] a value ad. Um however, that entire program, the the program, the the track

[45:11] maintenance itself, uh the organization, it's all self-funded. So, the city

[45:16] really has very minimal um you know um uh what do you call it? Uh involvement

[45:22] with that other than you know assisting with some planning perhaps. Um, but it's

[45:27] a super successful program uh uh run by a a nonprofit organization. Very I'm

[45:33] happy about the partnership. Um, another example is the uh senior program and

[45:39] specifically the senior lunches. I attend once in a while, you know, just

[45:42] to catch up with people, right? And it's packed. It's

[45:44] » it's fun like it is. >> There's music there. It's

[45:48] » music, you know, very well [snorts] attended. Uh sometimes that there are no

[45:52] seats. you would have to pull in at chairs and all of that stuff. Uh meals

[45:56] are great. I think it's a wonderful program. I think it should be expanded.

[46:00] » However, what I've noticed is that it's similar to the BMX attendance in that

[46:06] very few CATAC people are actually participating in that program. And in

[46:12] fact, I would say more than 90% of the participants are not CATAC residents. Uh

[46:17] they're coming from other cities. And that's okay. I think that's fine. we are

[46:21] providing a community benefit. Um but when I talked to CPAP residents who are

[46:25] seniors uh who could be interested in a program um I I've informed folks about

[46:31] this and so two local seniors never even heard about this and they attended for

[46:36] the first time and they will continue to come back. So I think there's some

[46:39] outreach effort that need to be done there with our local community to inform

[46:42] them of these programs that we have available for them. Uh but on the other

[46:46] hand, I think that because I don't know exactly what the what the cost how the

[46:52] costs work out. Um but I think that we should just be able to make sure that

[46:57] that even though it does benefit the individual and community has both

[47:01] benefits, if the community is um mostly non CAP community, then we should seek

[47:09] uh towards a potential cost recovery model in that particular situation. So,

[47:14] I'm not saying that um what I would like to see is the program expand and perhaps

[47:19] provide a steep discount for SeaTac residents who are participating and then

[47:24] pursue more of a cost recovery model for nonCAC residents. That that that is a

[47:29] suggestion that I have. I think that would make that more sustainable and

[47:33] allow us to expand the program as well. >> That's just an example.

[47:37] » Absolutely. And we totally 100% agree with that. What what you see here on the

[47:41] screen is right now uh a state of residency is really as a used as a

[47:46] pricing strategy in only two of the core program areas community recreation and

[47:50] facility rentals. All the other program it is the same rate for a resident as a

[47:55] non-resident to participate in it. And as a result you have very you have

[48:00] extremely popular programs that non-residents are really enjoying but at

[48:05] potentially at the expense of SeaTac residents being a part of it as well.

[48:09] And so um a a strategy for managing that and taking advantage of all these non

[48:16] non-residents that are enjoying your programs that are subsidized for your

[48:19] residents is to employ a little bit more sophisticated resident versus

[48:23] non-resident fee structure. And so as we get further along in the process, I know

[48:28] fees can and pricing can be a controversial topic, but this is one

[48:32] that we're going to recommend we dive into a little bit more to manage some of

[48:36] these types of things. >> Okay, that's all I had. Thank you.

[48:41] » Mr. P. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, and thank you

[48:46] for this uh presentation. Um, can we go back to the

[48:51] actually I just had it up.

[48:56] » Sorry, my computer is lagging. >> Uh, the program life cycles slide.

[49:03] » Yes. >> Um, I appreciate you um breaking this

[49:06] down um at the request of uh my colleague, but what else is this slide

[49:12] telling us about our programs that are currently being offered by the city of

[49:16] SeaTac? Well, uh that's [clears throat] a great

[49:19] question. So, um as we think about and like as I

[49:24] mentioned, when we perform this analysis of all those 93 individual programs and

[49:29] offerings, we know which one of them where they fall in each one of these

[49:33] life cycles. So, there's no guesswork in trying to understand which programs are

[49:38] in that state of saturation or decline or maturity. We know which ones they

[49:42] are. Um and as you and we have another client in the Midwest where they

[49:47] actually had much higher percentage in that saturation and decline phase and it

[49:52] was became pretty clear as you look at things like in the table on the bottom

[49:55] there where a lot of those programs may be occurring that again just makes it

[50:00] much more efficient for us and for the the department staff to really hone in

[50:06] on where there are improvements that could be made in the offerings. In some

[50:10] cases, it may mean that there's a program or two that we need to

[50:14] discontinue because there's just not the sufficient interest in it that's

[50:19] justifies the effort that it takes to design it, deliver it, schedule it, etc.

[50:24] » Uh in some cases, it may mean there's an existing program that needs to be

[50:28] evolved or refreshed in order to create more appeal. So, it is more popular

[50:33] amongst residents. Um and then some cases, it it shows us where programs are

[50:38] extremely high performing. and we need to maybe double down or or offer more

[50:43] more occurrences of that particular program if there's long waiting lists

[50:47] etc. So as you see on that table on the on the bottom if you kind of look at in

[50:52] those saturated and decline and no go phase u uh life cycles you can see which

[50:58] categories of programs have the highest proportions of offerings that are in

[51:03] each one of those each one of those life cycles. So for example, special 14% of

[51:09] special events currently are considered in the saturation phase. That means

[51:13] we're probably uh we're maxed out on uh the the

[51:17] capacity. Sometimes that's a facilities issue, sometimes that's a staff issue,

[51:22] but those are programs that are kind of getting maxed out. Um as you look up at

[51:27] community recreation towards the top, 21% of its offerings are in a state of

[51:32] decline. So that means we probably want to pay attention to what's going on

[51:35] there. What are those programs? How can we improve upon them to maybe bring them

[51:39] back so that they are not in a state of decline, but they are they are moving

[51:43] somewhere over to a growth or a takeoff phase. Does that make sense?

[51:47] » That that does make sense. And uh just to follow up to that, is there do we

[51:51] have the ability to track where it's a constraint due to staffing versus

[51:55] actually physical space? >> Yes. So,

[51:58] » and will we track that? There's a [laughter]

[52:00] if that is a um anecdotal evidence behind each one of these as we dive into

[52:05] these individually with staff really understanding circumstantially what may

[52:10] contribute to how they're being uh scored in this in this particular

[52:14] analysis. And so going through them one by one with that team we'll be able to

[52:18] identify those that are hindered by staffing or facility capacity issues.

[52:24] » Thank you. Um [clears throat] in an earlier slide I saw that the uh

[52:28] top resident priority was develop new parks and trails. Um but we also stated

[52:34] that the city of SeaTac is landlocked. >> Yeah.

[52:37] » So where will these new parks and trails come from? Will the recommendation be

[52:41] through acquisition um partnerships with um community based organizations? Uh can

[52:47] you tell me more about that? And >> again this was just one po one one point

[52:51] in time with a small group of people. I would be very interested to see the

[52:55] results of this question as it comes back from the statistically valid survey

[52:59] because we also asked it there and that's going to be a much more broad

[53:03] sweeping cross-representative sample of CTAC residents overall but as you as you

[53:10] as a builtout community as you think about new parks new trails is one thing

[53:13] I mean that's a little bit easier uh but new parks is oftentimes pretty

[53:18] challenging because of the just a lack of available tracks of land that would

[53:22] be suitable for Parkland. But as you think about um as we shouldn't it

[53:27] shouldn't be off the table, but it should definitely demand our creativity

[53:30] at things like engaging the development community so that you know like park

[53:34] dedications when they may be doing new developments or refreshing new

[53:38] developments using that tool to help bring parks online. as you mentioned,

[53:42] partnerships with community- based organizations, land swap opportunities,

[53:47] old uh dilapidated lots that might have a higher and better purpose as a public

[53:52] vibrant public space. So, there's a number of different strategies. Do I

[53:55] foresee that you are going to have large community and regional parks, new ones

[54:00] in your future? Probably not. Okay. >> But refreshing the ones that you do have

[54:04] should be a priority. >> Thank you. And my last question, how is

[54:08] this pros plan coordinating with our uh transportation improvement plan? I'd

[54:12] hate for us to get into a situation where the pros plan is has a

[54:16] recommendation that's in conflict with our transportation improvement plan

[54:20] along the same corridor. So, but what does thatordination look like?

[54:24] » And there's a lot of other plans not only going on, but having been recently

[54:28] completed and then also planned to beun begin in in the near couple years. And

[54:33] so staff are keeping us well apprised of a lot of those ongoing uh planning

[54:38] efforts. We also have members of the planning department. Kaen spins she

[54:42] participates in each one of our bi-weekly meetings. So we always are

[54:46] asking how does this intersect? How do what we're talking about intersect with

[54:49] other plans that are going on in the community particularly around

[54:52] transportation trails and connectivity is so such an important integration

[54:57] point. So, if there's opportunities for projects to do double duty, solve

[55:01] transportation issues and connectivity issues at the same time, we're trying to

[55:05] make sure we stay apprised of that ahead of time.

[55:07] » Thank you. And and you said uh the next public meeting is tomorrow night.

[55:10] » Tomorrow night. >> And where's it at?

[55:12] » This room. >> This room.

[55:13] » Awesome. Thank you. >> You bet.

[55:16] » Thank you, Mr. Mr. Pincer. I [clears throat] I use an city of city

[55:23] tag bar and open spaces every day basically and I'm also talker so I talk

[55:28] to the people walking around it playing with their children and all of those

[55:32] things and the park is of sea tag is our jewel and

[55:38] joy to our community really talking to them I find out few things

[55:43] ground most of people who use grandf few bark they live in demon and kept most of

[55:50] very few I talked to people who were walking with their doggies in actually

[55:54] north cag bark or other places and I told them look there's unleashing

[56:00] » and and and bark in sag do you know that it's like 10 blocks from here but they

[56:05] don't know that >> so this is

[56:10] I don't want to um I mean how you quantified

[56:14] choy you know when you giving so much joy to seniors and local offers and

[56:20] community members to enjoy there. So I I want our our communities around us to

[56:27] use our bikes and enjoy it and stay healthy and you know all of those thing

[56:31] instead of you know you are Seattle $5 from there you know I I I

[56:38] there is something that's dear to me that's we call common good

[56:42] » community not city of sit but uh as a whole as a state as a county as a cities

[56:50] around in this area. So um I have uh one question and you mentioned it uh

[56:57] sometimes ago which is that we are growing community where the first

[57:01] community we get the information different ways my 18 years old get her

[57:06] information her way I get mine >> um but we want to engage all of those

[57:11] things and there's language cultural barrier I know that the senior launching

[57:16] program here which I have attended which is very beautiful it's it doesn't

[57:21] represent all our demographics. I know many seniors of color who live in this

[57:27] area who never came to here. >> So it's actually we should reach out and

[57:31] say hey you know Wednesday is a month right we can have we can eat here we can

[57:36] have fun you know uh we'll have interpreters all of those things and

[57:41] actually bridge the cultures and all of those things. So there's a lot of

[57:44] potential this city that we have not explored it. I'm glad that we are

[57:49] starting this conversation and this is an opportunity but I want to know

[57:54] specifically how you will approach you know immigrant seniors who live in CDFC

[57:59] in [clears throat] one of the apartments or here that how you do that

[58:05] » that's a great question. So [clears throat] and again the

[58:07] statistically valid survey is our is our primary tool for that. It is going to

[58:11] because it is completely random s sampled uh with wholly within just the

[58:17] boundaries of CEKC. So >> uh we are not picking up any feedback

[58:21] from non-residents in that in that tool and and we track the results when they

[58:26] come back. So make sure that based on the age segmentation, the race and

[58:31] ethnic uh composition of of CATAC that we're getting responses from survey

[58:37] respondents that mirror the pro the community profile of the city. So that

[58:42] if we are running the risk of oversampling or undersampling any

[58:47] groups, we can correct that before we complete the survey. So we do monitor

[58:52] that pretty regularly and etc institute our partner who administers that survey

[58:56] is very strong. We are also continuing to take guidance from Mary uh and her

[59:02] team about ways and I think they're getting feedback from some of you all as

[59:06] well about ways in which we can continue to engage other community members

[59:11] through community- based organizations looking at other strategies that we can

[59:15] employ to ensure that not just users but non-users voice is included in this

[59:21] plan. In that survey we do ask people about what are their barriers to access.

[59:27] So we we to take an opportunity to learn what what is it that keeps them from

[59:31] using your parks more often than they currently do. We also ask them about one

[59:37] how they currently find out about park and recreation opportunities and then

[59:42] secondly how they would prefer to find out about parks and recreation

[59:46] opportunities to so that we can help shape the marketing communications

[59:51] awareness pieces of the department getting information out there. This is a

[59:55] challenge most parks and recreation departments face.

[59:58] » Um, parks and recreation is the closest thing your city has to like a pure

[1:00:03] retail service >> where you you put together a portfolio

[1:00:07] of offerings and then you go out and advertise it and recruit and try to get

[1:00:11] people to participate [snorts] and then there's various sometimes there's fees

[1:00:14] associated with it, sometimes not. And that's a not exactly a core competencies

[1:00:20] a lot of cities excel at. That's very different than marketing communications

[1:00:24] around public works or police and fire. And so I anticipate that one of the

[1:00:30] outcomes of this plan is that the city's marketing communication efforts,

[1:00:34] particularly in parks and recreation, is going to improve dramatically because of

[1:00:38] all the information that we're gathering in this process, including the surveys,

[1:00:42] the interviews, and the public meetings. >> Beautiful. Thank you very much.

[1:00:46] » Bet. >> All right. I will wrap up that one. Um

[1:00:52] the next item will be key key city issues and requests for direction total

[1:00:59] for 45 minutes from the city manager Chant.

[1:01:04] » Thank you mayor, city council. Uh I'll uh introduce this first item while uh

[1:01:11] interim dire deputy city manager Maxum comes up to present. Um, one of the

[1:01:16] things that in local government we get really good at doing is we complete a

[1:01:21] project and then we move immediately on to the next one without ever pausing to

[1:01:25] reflect how things went. Over the past summer, we had the culmination of one of

[1:01:30] the largest efforts we've had in preparing for the welcoming of the World

[1:01:34] Cup to Seattle. This was a process that from its very beginning was designed to

[1:01:39] keep SeaTac safe. We wanted to provide spaces where community could gather. if

[1:01:44] the better part of a million people got off a light rail and needed a place to

[1:01:48] congregate, we wanted to make sure we had safe spaces for them to get

[1:01:51] together. We did that and we knew that along the way we would learn some

[1:01:54] lessons about how community and uh visitors can use space along the

[1:02:01] international boulevard. So with that, turn it over to Evan.

[1:02:07] » Good evening, mayor, city council. Uh bear with me while I adjust the

[1:02:11] microphone here. Uh so as Jonathan introduced a moment ago, I do have an

[1:02:14] update for you on our recent uh World Cup events. Um this is a little bit of

[1:02:20] an update on some of the activities that you've heard briefings on over the last

[1:02:23] few months. I thought we should probably start with a little bit of a

[1:02:27] presentation around each of the activation sites. Uh these are photos

[1:02:31] that of course were taken by our photographer uh Mr. Inman. Um so due

[1:02:36] credit for uh the quality of the pictures as we move forward. And I'll

[1:02:39] remind the city council, we really focused on creating three uh FIFA

[1:02:43] activation sites. The screen that you have on the uh pardon me, the images

[1:02:47] that you see on the screen before you are related to the kiss and ride site.

[1:02:50] This is at your groundbreaking event. Uh we had both the mini pitch, the BMX uh

[1:02:55] pump track, and then of course a number of vendors located at that site.

[1:03:05] Uh, next site as you move north on International Boulevard, of course, was

[1:03:09] our STOP site. Uh, again, I think you'll recognize the photos here. This comes

[1:03:13] from the groundbreaking event or the ribbon cutting event uh that we engaged

[1:03:17] in at the STO site. Um, I think a few of our council members and perhaps our city

[1:03:21] manager in the slides. And just really want to highlight uh the color, the

[1:03:24] activation event, and um how well we've put this these sites together. And we'll

[1:03:29] elaborate more in a moment here. And then moving south, of course, the third

[1:03:33] site was the former Bullpen property. Remind the city council that we closed

[1:03:37] on that property at the end of February, demolished uh the bulk of the buildings

[1:03:41] on that property, and then stood up this FIFA activation site in in time for the

[1:03:46] groundbreaking that you can see on the screen in front of you. Uh recall that

[1:03:50] these activation sites served a couple of different purposes. Of course, we

[1:03:53] were celebrating World Cup and uh creating spaces for our communities, our

[1:03:57] travelers uh to come and view the games. It also serves as a trial run for

[1:04:03] creating activation sites along International Boulevard. So, our

[1:04:06] thoughts around placemaking, gauging how many of our travelers and our residents

[1:04:10] would come to these sites uh if they were stood up. And then third, it did

[1:04:14] serve a little bit of a security purpose in terms of creating a space where we

[1:04:18] would have potential crowds come and be in a very defined location during the

[1:04:22] game so we could manage if there was uh an emergency event. And fortunately,

[1:04:26] there was not. Looking at the activation sites, these

[1:04:30] photos on the screen in front of you really represent across all three of the

[1:04:33] sites. As you can see, they were heavily used and heavily programmed out uh

[1:04:37] during the World Cup games. I have um a brief summary here. I just would like to

[1:04:42] characterize a little bit the effort that went into setting up these sites.

[1:04:46] What you'll see, of course, is the three sites that are activated. This did

[1:04:50] require strong coordination across uh at least three of your operational

[1:04:53] departments. So, our community and economic development department, your

[1:04:56] public works maintenance uh department in particular, and your parks uh

[1:05:00] department. Those three departments worked uh collaboratively to identify

[1:05:05] all of the materials necessary for setting up the site, uh putting those um

[1:05:10] facilities in place and then uh maintaining them throughout the the um

[1:05:15] duration of the World Cup and continuing here. You've seen rendering that you've

[1:05:19] seen the pictures. The right-hand graphic on the screen in front of you

[1:05:22] really represents the site planning that we had to do for each of these sites.

[1:05:27] Um, this represents really one page out of several for each site and that's in

[1:05:31] the process of evolving as we move post World Cup

[1:05:35] getting the sites ready and again this is just a highle summary of the tasks

[1:05:39] associated with each site and I really want to highlight um our maintenance

[1:05:42] crews both from public works and parks. You'll recall that you brought on

[1:05:45] additional seasonal staff and our regular staff were involved in each of

[1:05:49] the sites engaging in these t focusing on creating uh landscape spaces, kind of

[1:05:53] welcoming spaces, putting in planters, um ordering 50 pots, putting in uh all

[1:05:59] of the maintenance work, cleaning the site each day, um and so on. Also set up

[1:06:04] a lot of furniture and equipment. Uh if you visited those sites, you've seen all

[1:06:08] of the tables, the chairs, the shade, the awnings, the TV, the sound system,

[1:06:13] etc. Um, we are looking at the the pump

[1:06:16] track, pardon me, the pump track for our BMX uh partners and then of course our

[1:06:22] mini pitch setup and looking at how we can repurpose that moving forward. And

[1:06:26] then last, um, of course we did focus on safety. So you I think you've seen the

[1:06:30] jersey barriers out there that those are waterfilled intended to ensure that we

[1:06:34] have safe uh traffic protection at each of the sites.

[1:06:38] Um during the the World Cup games, of course, there was also daily maintenance

[1:06:43] that was required from our maintenance and public works crews. Um so again, we

[1:06:47] had people out on the sites every day doing cleanup, uh washing down the

[1:06:51] property, making sure the bathrooms were reset. We had security teams on site to

[1:06:56] ensure that none of the city assets were damaged overnight, things of that

[1:06:59] nature. Uh just to give you a little bit of a sense of um the scale of the

[1:07:04] activities on a daily basis, we have 52 planters uh pardon [clears throat] me 52

[1:07:09] planters across the three sites. Each of those planters required daily watering.

[1:07:13] Um so we ended up spending approximately 63 hours in this time period just

[1:07:18] watering plants. And that's just one aspect of the site maintenance during

[1:07:22] this uh month and a half, two months time period.

[1:07:26] some preliminary data and and council member Vincent, I did hear your comments

[1:07:29] at the Highland forum the other night. This is preliminary data uh coming from

[1:07:33] our placer AI data tracking for site usage. Um will note there is a typo on

[1:07:38] this slide. My apologies uh in advance. You'll see the fourth bullet in the

[1:07:42] upper leftand corner says 68% and 44%. That should read 28% and 13% and I will

[1:07:49] provide that to city council after the meeting uh this evening. Um but the

[1:07:53] highlight here is really the number of visitors we had during this time period.

[1:07:57] So this is the time period from May 22nd through July 20th. Recall recall that

[1:08:02] the last World Cup game, the final was on July 19th. In that time period at the

[1:08:07] bullpen site, we had uh more than 4,000 visitors at the bullpen site with an

[1:08:12] average time of of stay of an hour and a half. If you look at the right hand uh

[1:08:18] chart, that represents the days of the week where we saw the most activity.

[1:08:21] Monday being the lefthand bar, uh Sunday being the righth hand bar. So on that

[1:08:26] upper right hand chart, uh Friday and Sunday were the days when we saw the

[1:08:31] most visitors, typically about a thousand visitors across the uh span of

[1:08:36] time. Uh lower left hand is the visit duration

[1:08:40] and I realize these are small graphics. This is not intended as the full data

[1:08:44] briefing, but just the preliminary. Uh and you'll see in the right hand side

[1:08:49] most days uh were exceeding 150 minutes at each of the site at the bullpen site

[1:08:55] pardon me. And then the lower right hand corner represents the time of day where

[1:08:59] we saw the most activity. And as you might expect about 12:00 about noon we

[1:09:04] saw uh activity peaking on the or beginning to pick up on the site peaking

[1:09:08] typically around the 6:00 hour. moving uh north to the STOP site had

[1:09:16] slightly less in the way of visitors, which actually is a little bit

[1:09:18] counterintuitive to my experience of the STOP property. Um, but we had about

[1:09:22] 3,400 visitors to the STOP site. Uh, many of those visitors went more than

[1:09:29] once, which is why you see 4 uh pardon me, 4,000 visits, 4,100 visits, and that

[1:09:35] represents repeat uh visitors to that site. most active typically Friday

[1:09:40] through Sunday. Uh duration actually a little bit higher

[1:09:45] for visiting that site. Again, consistent perhaps with my experience at

[1:09:48] least of about a 100 minutes on average. And you can see um the the distribution

[1:09:54] on the lower leftand corner. And then kind of an interesting uh visit pattern.

[1:09:58] So you had a peak pattern um both at the noon hour and into the early evening

[1:10:03] starting at 6:00. And then for the last site, this is the

[1:10:08] the welcoming plaza site. Remind the city council, this is actually right

[1:10:12] next to our Sound Transit Station. The numbers threw me a little bit in terms

[1:10:15] of visitation. You'll see that we had approximately 16,000 visitors pass

[1:10:20] through that site. Um, this is I'll remind the city council this data I'm

[1:10:24] presenting to you is the Placer AI data. So, what it's actually tracking is cell

[1:10:28] phones and it's tracking uh American cell phones. So, it is not picking up

[1:10:33] international travelers. Uh so in part I'm caveing this information because it

[1:10:38] is not a complete data set. We also are collecting information from our site

[1:10:42] operators to help verify some of the information that we'll eventually report

[1:10:46] to you this September. Uh but those 16,000 visitors I think actually will

[1:10:50] probably represent a fair uh number of our both airport employees walking past

[1:10:55] the site going into the airport and perhaps catch uh catching the train to

[1:10:59] go north. Uh you'll notice that the average visit

[1:11:03] time is much smaller on this site, 24 minutes and if you look at the uh

[1:11:08] distribution both across days of the week, there's not a huge noticeable

[1:11:12] difference from day to day in terms of visitation and if you look in the lower

[1:11:17] lefthand corner, you'll notice that most of the visit durations are down in that

[1:11:21] 15 to 20 minute range or less. And then uh notably in the right hand um in terms

[1:11:26] of when the visits are occurring during the day you'll see a much more even

[1:11:31] distribution moving forward.

[1:11:35] I neglected to mention this um on the STO site so I'll move back just for a

[1:11:39] moment. Uh STO site one of the one of the bits of information that we're able

[1:11:44] to gather from place AI data is the visits to CEK businesses before and

[1:11:50] after. And you'll know in particular with a STOP site, we saw a number of uh

[1:11:55] visitors coming to STOP from a CATC business or returning to a SeaTac

[1:11:59] business after visiting STOP. This would indicate that we are seeing a high

[1:12:04] number of uh travelers and tourists visiting the site in particular.

[1:12:09] So in terms of funding, switching gears just a little bit, I reported to you

[1:12:13] last on this particular item uh before we engaged in FIFA. And I'll note uh

[1:12:18] city council in your wisdom you did authorize a large uh lodging tax

[1:12:21] expenditure to support this and a large general fund expenditure. The positive

[1:12:26] in this slide is really that we are significantly under spent on our general

[1:12:30] fund expenditures. >> [clears throat]

[1:12:34] » So, uh, the parenthetical numbers that you'll see on the screen is the original

[1:12:38] budgeted amount and the, uh, number immediately to the left of the

[1:12:43] parenthesis would represent our expenditure to date. So, I'll call to

[1:12:48] your attention that general fund at the very bottom, we're approximately $800,

[1:12:52] $900,000 under our general fund expenditure that you originally budgeted

[1:12:57] last last uh, October, November time frame.

[1:13:02] We're not quite done yet. Um, so, uh, we are in the process of evolving the three

[1:13:07] sites for some period of time to take us through the summer and into the early

[1:13:11] fall. I anticipate one of the referral requests you'll receive from, uh, city

[1:13:15] manager Young this evening is for a contract to extend the security services

[1:13:21] beyond August 31st. We would be drawing from the general fund savings to cover

[1:13:26] that contracting cost. If approved or if referred by city council tonight, you

[1:13:30] would see that contract amendment on August 11th. Uh you'll also note that we

[1:13:35] did have um both the Highline Heritage Museum contract for Fourth of July

[1:13:40] installations at all three sites and we had the uh ice cream truck that went to

[1:13:45] the three sites. Alluded to this in some of my comments

[1:13:49] up until now. We are in the process of essentially modifying all three sites

[1:13:54] now that we're post uh the World Cup games and we're closing uh the FIFA

[1:13:58] activation if you will and really focusing on that that uh site activation

[1:14:02] to try and see what our our visitation looks like post FIFA. So when we don't

[1:14:07] have a big event in town but trying to get a sense of what kind of visitors

[1:14:10] might we see at all three sites. Uh these represent essentially the

[1:14:14] evolutions occurring at all three sites as we move forward in terms of the

[1:14:18] actual on the ground change. Typically, you're seeing the stages removed. Uh

[1:14:23] you'll see the archways removed. You'll see some of the uh decoration and the

[1:14:29] branding shift as we move into this post World Cup time frame. Um you are seeing

[1:14:34] the bulk of the furniture, the the big video screens uh remaining and we are

[1:14:39] seeing the vendors or the operators of each site begin to shift how they're

[1:14:42] approaching uh opportunities during the day. Well, call to the council's

[1:14:46] attention. You saw the visitation did modify throughout the day. We had our

[1:14:51] operators running from like a 10 to 10:00 time frame. If most of the

[1:14:56] visitors are occurring later in the day, we may want to shift operations at each

[1:14:59] site. And with that, uh, mayor, city council, I'm happy to answer any

[1:15:02] questions you may have or uh, wrap up and turn back to city manager Young.

[1:15:06] » Thank you. >> Question.

[1:15:13] » Thank you. Um, great info. Um, I love seeing data and

[1:15:19] I'm glad that we finally got two craft breweries in our city. Uh, albe it

[1:15:26] temporary. Um, super uh, so the the feedback I've been

[1:15:32] getting from the community uh, has overall been very positive. Um, and some

[1:15:38] folks, you know, about time we got something and very happy there's a a

[1:15:42] familyfriendly place where they can go um and bring the kids and dogs and stuff

[1:15:46] like that. Um, so overall super happy about that. I have a couple of questions

[1:15:52] about the um visitor

[1:15:56] number count. So from what I have heard uh we have been um getting these numbers

[1:16:05] through the um RTA we're doing it ourselves.

[1:16:11] » Uh so I'll remind the council that placer AI data is a subscription

[1:16:16] subscription that the city of CATAC pays for directly

[1:16:20] » and we're we're paying them directly. We're not going through the uh RTA like

[1:16:24] we were in the past for some of this stuff. Uh we really with AI data we've

[1:16:28] been contracting directly to my knowledge uh really since we started

[1:16:31] collecting. Okay. We use lodging tax funding to pay for it because it is

[1:16:35] » so we have so we have direct access to all of this information because I know

[1:16:38] there's more than just what is presented here. Right.

[1:16:41] » Yes. Okay. >> I would be interested in that. We can

[1:16:44] take that offline. Um, also I heard that that service only counts or rather does

[1:16:56] not count or is unable to count international cell phone which was a

[1:17:02] vast majority of the travelers that were coming through our city. So there's a

[1:17:06] chunk missing from this number. Is that right?

[1:17:09] » That is correct, council member. and and truly this is intended as a preliminary

[1:17:13] flavor uh at the end of the activation site. So I'm anticipating this fall we

[1:17:19] will have both the place or AI information which as you said uh picks

[1:17:23] up uh non- international phone numbers and we have asked the operators of each

[1:17:28] site to keep track of visitation. So we have both an on the ground count and a a

[1:17:34] separate data source if you will. Um and this is intended as the preliminary

[1:17:38] snapshot. Okay. Um, so I'm curious about the number of

[1:17:46] visitor visits and the you know estimated number of visitors because uh

[1:17:52] I personally seen at um uh the media site uh there were six people who parked

[1:18:01] their car. They went to the angle uh parking garage, light wheel parking

[1:18:04] garage, parked their car, came out and uh I saw them and uh you know wearing a

[1:18:09] suit. So they were talking to me and they were like, "Hey, what's going on

[1:18:12] across the street?" I said, "Oh yeah, they we've got this activation site. Why

[1:18:15] don't you go check it out and all that?" So um they said, "Do they have a

[1:18:18] bathroom?" I said, "They probably do. Go check it out." And so they went there.

[1:18:23] Six people hung around a little bit, used the bathroom, came back, got on

[1:18:27] light rail, and left. They did not buy anything. Okay. And and they did hang

[1:18:32] out for I don't know maybe 10 minutes or something like that or taking turns. So

[1:18:36] does that count as a visit? >> Yes,

[1:18:39] » it does. So my concern here is that we know because we have an airport and

[1:18:45] hotels that um you know visitor visitors is great. High visitor numbers. We get a

[1:18:51] 100,000 visitors every single day. That's awesome. Okay. But what really

[1:18:55] counts for us is um

[1:19:01] visitors don't necessarily translate to sales, right? And sales is what keep

[1:19:08] things like this sustainable, right? And that is something I've been hearing from

[1:19:12] our business open up this type of business because it

[1:19:15] might not be sustainable. Like so I'm curious, can we get the

[1:19:20] sales numbers at some point? see what that looks like because I'd like to be

[1:19:24] able to show look it it's sustainable because the sales have been increasing

[1:19:29] or whatever whatever those numbers happen to be and so I I'm more

[1:19:33] interested in that. >> Uh no I appreciate that council member

[1:19:37] pardon me for saying it again these are preliminary numbers. I I will note the

[1:19:41] graph in the lower leftand corner would pick up the average duration of visits

[1:19:46] and the the bars to the left hand side of that graph represent short visit

[1:19:52] times and really what I called [clears throat] out in my initial

[1:19:54] presentation is the bulk of those visits exceeded 150 hours but we did get some

[1:20:00] as you said a moment ago uh that were in that 5 to 10 minute range. the sales tax

[1:20:05] information typically runs about two months after the sales tax is collected,

[1:20:10] » right? >> So, uh, for the period, you know, we're

[1:20:12] focused on right now, May to July, we we really need to have a conversation in

[1:20:16] that September, October time frame, uh, to have any kind of meaningful feedback

[1:20:21] in terms of sales tax revenue. Um the purpose of including the visits before

[1:20:27] and after two CATC businesses was just to give you a sense of the pattern of uh

[1:20:32] visitors or travelers coming to the site and what percentage were potentially

[1:20:36] going to another business location. It doesn't speak to actual revenue though

[1:20:40] to your point, council member. So when that time comes, I'd like to um see if

[1:20:44] we could separate the activation site sales tax revenue versus the other stuff

[1:20:50] because I know our hotel occupants full occupancy and all of that stuff and so

[1:20:53] all the sales tax going to be up during FEA for sure, right? But but we need to

[1:20:58] be able to determine how successful were the activation sites specifically,

[1:21:01] right? And so that I would be interested in that. Um also have a question

[1:21:05] regarding the the funding. So, um I see that we've got we've invested quite a

[1:21:10] bit of general fund into this. Um I thought we also had state funding

[1:21:16] for this or towards something towards public safety or something like that,

[1:21:20] remember? And so how is that is that represented here? How is that

[1:21:23] represented? >> Uh it it's rep unfortunately it's

[1:21:26] represented by its absence to some extent. So you'll see in the the third

[1:21:30] row on the graph behind me, we had uh police and security staffing and we

[1:21:35] originally budgeted $360,000 for that and we've spent $29,000 and

[1:21:41] really uh credit to former Captain Smith or pardon me, Chief Smith uh with the

[1:21:46] city of SeaTac. he really worked with this uh pardon me um King County

[1:21:50] Sheriff's Office to cover the cost of the additional police uh services uh

[1:21:55] during the the period of time that we're talking about. So that's that's where

[1:21:59] that underspend comes from. I'm not aware of state or federal funds off the

[1:22:03] top of my my recollection. I can consult with uh director pyo and make sure I

[1:22:08] haven't missed something here in my reporting too.

[1:22:10] » Okay. So, uh, my concern here is that, and I pointed this out before FEIFA,

[1:22:15] that when mega events visit areas, uh, the the, uh, cities that are not well

[1:22:21] prepared end up actually losing money from the event. And so, I want to make

[1:22:26] sure that we did not lose money. And if we did, how much did we lose from this

[1:22:29] event? We need to compare the total sales tax increase revenue versus a

[1:22:33] normal non-FIFA year uh, versus how much we spent on all of this other stuff. and

[1:22:38] and hopefully we come out positive at the end of the day.

[1:22:41] » I appreciate that, Council. >> All right. Thank you.

[1:22:43] » Thank you, Counc. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um,

[1:22:49] first, thank you for breaking out how uh much small detailed work like daytoday

[1:22:56] all the staff did. Um, the amount of time just watering plants I think is

[1:23:00] just it's a testament to to how behind the scenes like every the reason why it

[1:23:06] looks so good all the time is because people are there doing the work every

[1:23:08] day. So, thank you. I I really appreciated that. Um, while we're on

[1:23:13] this slide, I had a question about the Nlloxxone spending. Um, did we

[1:23:19] was it budgeted at like almost 42,000 based off of some kind of estimate and

[1:23:25] has have we talked with the hotel staff? I believe staff were working to to

[1:23:31] educate um the hotel staff there just kind of like what that looked like if

[1:23:35] there was other kinds of responses um that

[1:23:39] » we did budget the 42,000 to or you are reading that that graph correctly. uh we

[1:23:44] did acquire Nlloxxone and we did distribute it to our hotel uh partners

[1:23:48] and we did provide training to the hotel years in terms of how to how to apply

[1:23:52] Nlloxxone in in the case of an emergency.

[1:23:56] » Uh I I don't have specifics on that this evening council member but I'm happy to

[1:23:59] follow up after. >> That would be great. I know that this

[1:24:02] obviously is very um focused on the three activation sites. I would just be

[1:24:06] curious on if that that is a reasonable number, if that makes sense, or maybe

[1:24:11] our like our hotel staff were were really on it. Public safety is just

[1:24:16] really high up there. I'd just love some more context for that.

[1:24:19] » Thank you. >> That's all. Thank you,

[1:24:21] » Councilman. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um Evan, thank you

[1:24:26] again for this presentation. Understand these uh the information here is

[1:24:30] preliminary. Um, but first and foremost, I do want to thank the staff um for

[1:24:34] putting this all together. Um, I understand procuring some of these items

[1:24:40] um during, you know, FIFA season when we have competing um jurisdictions also

[1:24:45] looking for similar items, we still got it done um and we did so very did so

[1:24:50] safely. So, I just wanted to first thank the staff um publicly and personally for

[1:24:56] putting this event on. Um I do agree with the the previous uh speakers. Um I

[1:25:01] would like to know at some point the economic impact that this has brought to

[1:25:06] the city of SeaTac uh return on investment. Um and just also just

[1:25:10] lessons learned. But just looking at the information here personally visiting all

[1:25:15] three sites I I think we did a phenomenal job. U just saying that

[1:25:19] again. I can't say that enough actually. Um,

[1:25:24] I don't have any I don't have any additional comments other than just a

[1:25:28] multitude of gratitude for the hard work that this all took and looking forward

[1:25:34] to the final numbers. So, so thank you guys again.

[1:25:38] » Thank you council. >> Multitude of gratitude. I I I I I want

[1:25:44] to second that actually and you know it was really amazing how things came

[1:25:48] together. I mean shorty time very difficulty time and and we we did good

[1:25:56] and the staff did excellent work and I'm very grateful that we did uh the numbers

[1:26:00] actually we I can assure you we make a lot of ton of tax for the world people

[1:26:07] the hotels was full the city was I I have been all

[1:26:13] two of the occupation site and sometimes we couldn't even find tea uh especially

[1:26:19] in the evening. So, thank you very much, sir.

[1:26:22] » City manager, Mr. Kwan, >> could we?

[1:26:26] » Yeah, I I'll be brief. So, uh as part of um the uh skateboard committee and and

[1:26:33] various other committees, I learned that the USA is in the bid to host the

[1:26:39] upcoming women's FIFA World Cup in 2031. That's in five years. they might return

[1:26:46] here and that's going to be another huge influx if it does. We don't know yet.

[1:26:51] It's five years away. So I I would like to make sure that we have this dialed in

[1:26:55] because this was you know basically the the learning moment right so that we are

[1:27:00] very well prepared if in case it comes here returns in five years. Thank you.

[1:27:06] » I appreciate that. Council member maybe just one follow-up comment and I'll I'll

[1:27:10] move away. Mayor, uh, we are we do have a scheduled debrief event, um, at the

[1:27:15] staff on the staff side of things in August for I think exactly what Council

[1:27:20] Member Vincent and and Quan mentioned a moment ago, which is lessons learned.

[1:27:24] How can we do this perhaps more smoothly the next time it was a bit of a a

[1:27:28] stressor in the moment. So, thank you, council members. Thank you, Mayor.

[1:27:31] » Thank you. Uh, picking up where Evan left off, as

[1:27:36] he alluded to, we would like to come back to you at your next regularly

[1:27:40] scheduled council meeting on August 11th, so that you can at least talk

[1:27:44] through the benefits and uh weigh the the possibility of uh extending a

[1:27:49] security contract that would allow some of our activation zones to stay active

[1:27:52] through the fall so that we can keep that amenity uh open for public through

[1:27:57] the through the fall. I would ask for referral of a contract amendment for

[1:28:03] FIFA security uh security for our FIFA activation zones

[1:28:09] to the August 11th meeting as well as a resolution memorializing the council's

[1:28:16] direction from your council study session on uh July 14th on the proposed

[1:28:22] options and sequencing of the schedule for the international village. I would

[1:28:27] ask for both of those items to be referred to your next regularly

[1:28:30] scheduled council meeting on August 11th.

[1:28:34] » Yes. >> See the majority of thumbs up.

[1:28:39] » Yes. >> Very good. All right. Thank you for

[1:28:43] that. uh would also ask for referral to the

[1:28:46] August 11th council study session, an update on your council request forms,

[1:28:51] CRFs, and also a preview of the sequencing of of events for your

[1:28:56] upcoming bianual budget. So, I'd like to spend some time talking through that if

[1:28:59] I just have a thumbs up for referral. Very good. Um, couple more

[1:29:05] administrative matters. Uh, on your agenda tonight is a grant application

[1:29:10] for the King County Minor Home Repair. that's on your consent agenda. A little

[1:29:14] bit unusual because the uh dollar amount of $150,000 is normally the threshold

[1:29:20] where we would not bring this to you on consent. This was a requirement actually

[1:29:24] from King County. And so it's satisfying their obligations for council approval

[1:29:29] of the uh grant application. And so even though it's only at the application

[1:29:34] phase, it appears on your consent so that we can satisfy the elements of King

[1:29:38] County in applying for it. So, just wanted to point out that nuance to why

[1:29:42] that appears on your agenda tonight. [gasps]

[1:29:45] Um, also [clears throat] earlier this month, I uh sent you a copy of the uh

[1:29:52] planning commission's midyear report as uh transmitted and prepared by our

[1:29:58] community and economic development staff. Uh we have staff with us if you

[1:30:02] have any questions about the planning commission's upcoming work plan.

[1:30:05] Otherwise, just wanted to make sure that you were informed of that work plan and

[1:30:09] I'll pause and see if there are any questions or comments. Otherwise, staff

[1:30:13] are always available to you if you have questions offline. We can certainly

[1:30:16] connect you. >> All right, times up. Understood. Good.

[1:30:20] Okay, >> very good. Uh just a few upcoming events

[1:30:23] to make sure everyone is aware of. It's a really busy week as we already heard.

[1:30:28] Uh the pros consulting team will be back here tomorrow night um giving their

[1:30:33] update on the parks rec recreation and open space plan. Uh we also have

[1:30:39] tomorrow night a summer market and music in the park from 5 to 8:00 p.m.

[1:30:46] on also tomorrow. Uh just in case you get

[1:30:51] any questions from community members, we were alerted by Port of Seattle that the

[1:30:56] FAA is conducting a training exercise in which it's possible that they may be

[1:31:01] practicing uh rescuing people and there could be repelling from a bridge just if

[1:31:06] people drive by and say why are there people suspended from a bridge? It's a

[1:31:10] training exercise. There's nothing serious going on at the port. uh they

[1:31:14] are putting out that messaging and we are amplifying it as well just to make

[1:31:17] sure in times of heightened security concerns that there's no uh concern from

[1:31:22] community. Uh Thursday, July 30th, there's a

[1:31:27] chamber of commerce event where uh I will be uh sharing an update on our

[1:31:32] business and occupation tax plans as well as our financial strategy uh making

[1:31:37] sure that small business owners are aware of the uh efforts that we're

[1:31:41] contemplating as part of the bienial preparation effort. Again, that's uh

[1:31:45] Thursday night uh being hosted at the Chamber of Commerce.

[1:31:49] On July 31st, there's theater in the park and Friday flick series is on

[1:31:55] August 11th. And so that concludes our updates. I do just want to give a quick

[1:32:01] nod of uh gratitude to city staff in setting up a a different venue for us

[1:32:06] tonight. Uh flexing a different muscle to get out and have these meetings out

[1:32:11] in uh a different part of the city. While tonight's event is not teaming

[1:32:16] with community members, it is a reflection of our ability to do this.

[1:32:19] That is really an important part of uh one uh building an exercise to get out

[1:32:25] in public and be other spaces. And so we anticipated that this may not be the the

[1:32:30] most action-packed agenda. That was actually by design because we were

[1:32:34] thinking that uh if we had any technology glitches tonight, we didn't

[1:32:38] want to have some of our mediious topics not covered and have the possibility of

[1:32:43] the the miss. So, so far things are going well and we appreciate council and

[1:32:49] staff's uh cooperation with this uh pilot of a new space. Thank you.

[1:32:53] » Thank you, city manager Young. Any question, comment or shall we move on?

[1:32:59] » Beautiful. Okay, let's move on. The next item will be committ committee updates

[1:33:04] and we have only one uh transportation and public one.

[1:33:11] » Thank you. Uh I'll try to keep this brief. So the transportation and public

[1:33:14] work committee met uh last week on July 23rd and we discussed the um

[1:33:24] construction contract. So this is for the airport station uh area

[1:33:29] improvements. Um the uh contract went out to bid and the

[1:33:36] um committee discussed the project funding, the schedule, contingency,

[1:33:41] contractor oversight, um maintaining access to nearby residences and

[1:33:45] businesses during construction. We want to make sure that uh the the people in

[1:33:49] our city are not uh severely impacted during the construction process. Uh we

[1:33:56] uh do have we confirm that sufficient funding is available for the current

[1:34:01] bienium and that access will be maintained throughout the construction.

[1:34:04] The committee recommended to forward this as agenda bill uh 6845 to the

[1:34:09] August 11th uh council meeting coming up as an action item. So we will all have

[1:34:15] an opportunity to review this uh contract. We also talked about um we had

[1:34:21] anformational update regarding the um electrification of our uh fleet. So uh

[1:34:30] few years ago the city decided to uh move to electrif electrify our fleet

[1:34:36] vehicles in order to uh provide uh more efficient services and potentially save

[1:34:42] uh money over uh in the future. And uh we talked about uh vehicle utilization

[1:34:49] uh performance m metrics emissions maintenance cost battery life total cost

[1:34:54] of ownership uh for the electric hybrid gasoline and diesel vehicles so that we

[1:34:58] can compare those moving forward. um committee requested that future reports

[1:35:03] include the uh baseline and per vehicle comparisons

[1:35:08] as well as separate light duty vehicle data, electricity and fuel cost, hybrid

[1:35:13] performance, maintenance expenses and fleet replacement considerations. Um we

[1:35:18] had a lot of good data and overall it's uh positive because we are saving quite

[1:35:22] a bit on uh fuel costs. So uh this is something that we will continue to

[1:35:27] explore and uh discuss. Uh we also had an update regarding uh

[1:35:33] ongoing recruitment efforts for uh public works and so um talked about the

[1:35:40] organizational structure which includes engineering operations policy and

[1:35:43] performance um and uh potential reorganization. So we the committee

[1:35:48] discussed anticipated cost, operational efficiency, staffing levels, funding

[1:35:53] sources and uh public value associated with the proposed organizational

[1:35:57] changes. uh the committee requested additional information regarding

[1:36:01] potential position changes and budget impacts. Um also uh the month of August

[1:36:07] is typically a month when a lot of other committees including the PGtown regional

[1:36:13] council skateboard and various other committees usually try to keep the month

[1:36:17] of August open with uh without any meetings. And so uh following that the

[1:36:22] transportation public works committee will not have a meeting in August unless

[1:36:26] there is an emergency and we must have a special meeting. So uh no meeting uh

[1:36:31] forecast in August. That's all. Thanks. >> Thank you Mr. Kuan. [clears throat] Uh

[1:36:36] the next item will meet the consent agenda. Christina I Christina Greg. Yes.

[1:36:42] » The following item was reviewed at the June 25th transportation public works

[1:36:47] committee meeting. Agenda bill number 6946, a motion authorizing the city

[1:36:52] manager to execute interlocal agreements with Highline Water District, Midway

[1:36:57] Sewer District, and Puget Sound Energy for the airport station area pedestrian

[1:37:01] improvements project CATAC CIP number ST 141.

[1:37:09] Do I have a motion to accept the consent agenda as presented?

[1:37:14] » All right. Council members, uh, will you unmute your mic while I'm reading the

[1:37:18] agenda, which is a motion to accepted the consent agenda as presented. Those

[1:37:22] who are in favor say I. >> I. I.

[1:37:25] » Those who are against say and I will be I. Okay. Action item. Agenda Bill uh

[1:37:32] 6951, an ordinance authorizing city manager to execute execute a contract

[1:37:38] with the state of Washington. State of Washington for state fiscal

[1:37:42] year 2027. Washington immigrant as asylum seeker support YMS program

[1:37:49] funding authorizing the dist the distribution of program funding through

[1:37:54] agreements with Congalles International Network CIN.

[1:38:00] uh unparticipating uh hotelish the extension of the human

[1:38:05] service coordinator temporary temporary limited temp uh position and amending

[1:38:12] the 2025 2026 by annual uh budget. This will be total

[1:38:19] 15 minutes um presented by the our human service manager Aaron Brian Thomas and

[1:38:25] human service coordinator Miriam Miatari. M Thomas it's all yours.

[1:38:34] » Thank you Mayor Eall and good evening council members. Uh my name is Erin

[1:38:40] Bryant Thomas, services manager with the city of PAC. I am joined by Miriam

[1:38:46] Merry, our human coordinator for the wild mass program, our term limited

[1:38:50] coordinator. >> Tonight,

[1:38:52] » sorry, you have [clears throat]

[1:38:55] » Yeah, we're struggling to hear you. >> Okay.

[1:38:59] » You're cutting in and out.

[1:39:06] » How is now? speak a little bit more so we can tell.

[1:39:12] » My name is Aaron Bryant. >> No,

[1:39:15] » no. Okay. So, how you want to handle this?

[1:39:19] Do we uh

[1:39:24] » Okay. Miam, can you speak? >> Testing. Um hello. Can you hear me?

[1:39:30] Okay. >> Yes, you are better. Yeah.

[1:39:33] » Okay. Wonderful. Wonderful. Um, uh, Erin, I think you have, uh, the deck up,

[1:39:38] so uh, we could try to move forward. And if you all, uh, maybe Erin, you can turn

[1:39:44] off your video. We'll see if your audio works a little better that way.

[1:39:47] » Absolutely. >> Okay, perfect.

[1:39:49] » We can get us started. I'll go ahead and share the screen,

[1:39:52] » please. Thank you so much. >> And Erin, without your video, I think

[1:39:57] you sounded a lot better. >> Oh, thank you, Christina. Alrighty.

[1:40:01] Well, I just wanted to send greetings and just extend my gratitude to the

[1:40:04] council for allowing us to come before you this evening. Um, I'm getting our

[1:40:09] presentation up and ready. One moment.

[1:40:19] Okay, I am also getting an error message.

[1:40:26] Standby.

[1:40:48] Miam. This is Mayor. So, your microphone is good. If you can start and and and

[1:40:54] Erin can actually uh when she's when she fix her computer, she can join you.

[1:41:01] » Absolutely. Erin, I can uh share my screen and start the deck if that works

[1:41:06] for you. Let me just

[1:41:08] » let me make one more attempt. Here we go.

[1:41:11] » Okay. >> How's that screen share coming over?

[1:41:16] » Yes. >> Okay.

[1:41:19] [clears throat]

[1:41:22] » All right. We'll start right here at page two. Is audio still okay and visual

[1:41:27] look good? >> Yeah.

[1:41:30] » Thank you for your patience. So the purpose of tonight's presentation is to

[1:41:34] present agenda bill 6951 which is an ordinance to authorizing the

[1:41:39] city manager to one sign the contract between the state and the city of

[1:41:43] SeaTac. Two sign the contracts between the city of SeaTac and our subcontractor

[1:41:49] and our hotelers and three extend the human services coordinator TLT position

[1:41:53] and amend the 202526 bianial budget. This builds on the parks and recck

[1:41:58] committee uh review back on July 9th and highlights some of the changes that have

[1:42:03] occurred since then. Um let's go

[1:42:10] and I'll I'll pass it over to Miriam to take us through the meat of the

[1:42:13] presentation this evening. Miriam. >> Absolutely. So, um, as you may have seen

[1:42:19] initially, uh, our parks and recreation, uh, council members and the committee

[1:42:23] had actually put this, uh, item on the consent agenda, but as staff, we we

[1:42:27] pulled it off because there were some changes that we wanted to bring, uh,

[1:42:30] forward to you to the full council and really describe what has changed since,

[1:42:35] uh, a couple of weeks ago when we did go to uh, parks and recreation uh, on July

[1:42:40] 9th. Uh, the first thing that has been updated by the state is the program

[1:42:44] scope. Uh as you all are aware uh the city of CATC has been providing

[1:42:48] emergency housing. Uh the state has approached all the housing providers and

[1:42:53] asked to to merge those two outcome areas.

[1:42:56] » I I want to take a five minutes recess. >> Okay.

[1:43:00] » All right. And you can fix it your computer or microphone.

[1:43:05] » All right. Not a problem. >> Don't worry.

[1:48:26] It is 7:42. We are going to prevene

[1:48:32] our uh council meeting on July uh 28, 2026. uh council members [clears throat]

[1:48:40] are in the center actually we are meeting today in the community center so

[1:48:46] Miriam and M Brian Thomas uh it is all yours

[1:48:57] » thank you so much can you hear us okay oh Erin I think I cut you off I'm sorry

[1:49:02] » I was just saying awesome thank you so much and welcome back everyone um one of

[1:49:06] the things that I did want to make sure that I um touched on was the importance

[1:49:10] of why we are presenting before you today. And so um in alignment with our

[1:49:15] goals um goal number one which is building effective and accountable

[1:49:18] government um managing the grant and implementing the W mass project really

[1:49:23] demonstrates the city's ability to deliver on state funded initiatives,

[1:49:27] ensuring transparency, accountability and responsiveness to community needs um

[1:49:32] and increasing community trust. And secondly, um, creating and preserving

[1:49:37] housing. And so the project directly addresses the critical need for housing

[1:49:42] solutions, helping to provide stable living conditions for asylum seekers

[1:49:47] while preserving housing resources in the region. It also ensures access to

[1:49:52] all um for all to adequate, safe, and affordable housing and basic human

[1:49:57] services. So, I didn't want to miss that opportunity um recognizing we have a

[1:50:01] limited amount of time, but these are um two of the goals that we are striving to

[1:50:06] achieve and that's why this issue is important um this evening.

[1:50:12] Miriam, >> thank you, Erin. Um so as we mentioned

[1:50:17] uh this item had uh previously been placed on the consent agenda but we are

[1:50:21] wanting to to come in front of the council because there are a few things

[1:50:24] that have changed since we went to parks and recreation on July 9th. Uh the first

[1:50:29] is the program scope. Uh initially this uh item was reviewed as an emergency

[1:50:35] hotel or emergency housing assistance. Since then the state has changed the

[1:50:40] scope uh to include stable housing uh meaning housing navigation. So, our case

[1:50:45] navigators will uh not only be supporting folks in emergency housing um

[1:50:49] but also guiding them through the process of getting and securing stable

[1:50:53] housing. Uh, additionally, there has been um that funding uh uh uh decrease.

[1:50:58] Uh we initially mentioned that uh we've been awarded previously larger amounts.

[1:51:03] This year it is down to $500,000 which has a direct impact across all the

[1:51:09] areas of our budget. that includes a direct assistance, administrative and

[1:51:13] operational uh budget costs which directly impact staff time. Uh lastly,

[1:51:19] uh we're coming to you with a few options. Uh there were discussions

[1:51:22] internally and uh the the team has come up with three options that we want to

[1:51:26] present to council tonight for their consideration uh given the expanded

[1:51:30] scope and the reduced administrative and operations capacity.

[1:51:37] So, we're going to take a quick step back and look at state fiscal year 26 or

[1:51:43] year two of this uh project. State fiscal year 26 uh just concluded in

[1:51:48] June. Uh it ran from July 1st of 2025 till June uh 30th of 2026. Uh we were

[1:51:56] awarded $750,000 uh by way of a contract amendment. uh we

[1:52:02] served 114 asylum seeking families in that uh time period. We partnered with

[1:52:08] the Congalles integration network to continue providing culturally responsive

[1:52:12] services. Um this included meals, transportation, interpretation. Um some

[1:52:17] uh light case management which included getting folks connected with uh food

[1:52:21] benefits, medical benefits, uh education, uh getting kids enrolled in

[1:52:26] school, adults into adult education uh with also some um uh job readiness

[1:52:31] activities happening uh by uh through the CIN um uh network of of support. Uh

[1:52:37] we also work to strengthen our regional partnerships. We do see this as a we

[1:52:42] take we take a regional approach. We are part of a network uh of different

[1:52:46] providers uh as well as the state and so we were working to learn best practices

[1:52:50] and share best practices in that time. Uh that was that proved really really

[1:52:54] important in state fiscal year 26 given um the uh fiscal volatility of of uh

[1:53:00] human services as a sector uh but also the everchanging policies at the federal

[1:53:06] level that had a direct impact on human services here in the state of Washington

[1:53:09] and particularly our human services budget as well um at the state level. Um

[1:53:15] but all in all continues to be a trusted leader um in supporting asylumseeking

[1:53:20] communities. uh we continue to be the only city that stepped up, raised our

[1:53:25] hand to say that we want to support this work and applied for these funds. Um and

[1:53:29] other cities followed suit uh primarily the city of Seattle um which is also

[1:53:34] providing some some similar services.

[1:53:38] So looking ahead at state fiscal year 27 uh what's going to be our role? Uh as we

[1:53:44] mentioned the state has emerged uh the housing services that were provided

[1:53:48] before. Uh if you may recall before emergency housing was separate from

[1:53:52] stable housing. Now both of those has been merged to migrant housing services.

[1:53:58] That includes the navigation piece in addition to the emergency housing.

[1:54:02] Referred participants will get 30 days of emergency shelters. Um it's up to 30

[1:54:06] days. Uh the state is giving us a lot of flexibility this year. If on day one

[1:54:11] someone is housing ready, they don't need emergency housing, maybe they may

[1:54:15] already have uh a steady stream of income through employment, uh we have

[1:54:19] authorization to immediately um get them into uh housing navigation services and

[1:54:24] help them stabilize sooner than that 30 days. So, we don't have an obligation

[1:54:28] for folks to be in in a hotel awaiting stable housing um up, you know, at that

[1:54:32] 30-day marker. Uh folks will still continue to receive case management and

[1:54:37] legal services and um if they do need uh services beyond the service period,

[1:54:42] meaning if their aotment of uh rental assistance or their legal needs do

[1:54:47] expand, um the the state has again extended flexibility for participants to

[1:54:52] come back and continue receiving those services. um considering the the the

[1:54:56] current climate. Um again, the big thing we want to make sure we mention here is

[1:55:00] that the city's scope has gone beyond emergency housing. It in and includes

[1:55:06] housing navigation as part of the the outcome area.

[1:55:13] Uh again, ongoing changes and implications. We have that that funding

[1:55:17] decrease we mentioned. Uh but with that decrease has also uh we've also seen a

[1:55:22] decrease in our um the expectations that the state has of us for performance. Uh

[1:55:28] this new fiscal year we are being asked to serve 34 households in a combination

[1:55:33] of emergency and housing navigation uh with those reduced dollars and again um

[1:55:38] the operations and administrative costs have been cut uh down to $150,000.

[1:55:44] Uh in our negotiations with the Congolese integration network uh we have

[1:55:47] landed at $90,000 staying retaining um the city of SeaTac retaining $90,000 and

[1:55:53] $60,000 going to the the city sorry to the Congolese integration network for

[1:55:59] staffing that translates to about 31.8 hours uh per week for city of SeaTac

[1:56:05] staffing to support this project.

[1:56:12] uh a bit more about the the staffing impact again um we have seen that

[1:56:17] reduction in the administrative uh side of things down to 31.8 hours per week.

[1:56:23] um that roughly translates to about 605 hours in uh state in the first first

[1:56:29] part of the state fiscal year 27 which is August to December of this year and

[1:56:34] then next year uh uh 2027 that'll be 580 hours uh again 90K designated to support

[1:56:43] uh the position and so internally we're having conversations around what what

[1:56:47] that does look like in terms of um the scaled administrative capacity while

[1:56:52] weighing the the expanded program requirements um and also supporting the

[1:56:56] Congolese integration network as they they advance this work in partnership

[1:57:00] with the city.

[1:57:04] So let's shift gears a little bit to uh the documents that we have in front of

[1:57:08] you. We have an ordinance as well as a few contracts. Um, this ordinance uh

[1:57:13] authorizes the city manager to amend the interlocal agreement with DSHS Ora, the

[1:57:19] office of refugee and immigrant assistance at the state level for state

[1:57:24] fiscal year 27. The ordinance also authorizes uh city manager um young to

[1:57:31] execute contracts with the congalles integration network for services on the

[1:57:35] ground operations and also two designated hotelier to provide the

[1:57:39] emergency uh housing uh aspect of the work. Um it also extends the temporary

[1:57:45] limited term human services uh position and amends the city's 2025 to 2026

[1:57:51] bianial budget. So again, those are the ordinance, a contract with CIN, as well

[1:57:58] as our contracts with our two hotelers for a total of four contracts.

[1:58:07] Um Erin, uh if you don't mind speaking uh to to this. So again, the the staff

[1:58:12] did come together and come up with three options that we would like to present to

[1:58:16] the council for consideration today in terms of guidance on how to move forward

[1:58:20] given this new changes that have been have been um presented to the city.

[1:58:24] » Yeah, thank you so much Miriam. [clears throat] So council members, we

[1:58:27] have before you three options. Option number one would be to authorize the

[1:58:31] execution of the state fiscal year 27 while mass agreement and direct staff to

[1:58:37] prepare a distant card regarding general fund 001 resources to supplement the

[1:58:43] human services coordinator TLT position. Uh maintain staffing capacity but

[1:58:50] additional funding is not guaranteed and will require future council approval. So

[1:58:55] that's option number one. Option number two, authorize execution of the

[1:59:00] agreement and direct the city manager to engage the state regarding additional

[1:59:05] administrative funding or further reductions to required outcomes and

[1:59:10] scope. And lastly, option number three, decline

[1:59:15] to authorize execution of this agreement. The city would forfeit

[1:59:19] $500,000 in state funding and discontinue the city administered W mass

[1:59:23] program.

[1:59:38] All righty. And the last time we were before you again, we uh were there at

[1:59:43] the parks and recreation committee meeting on July 9th. Um and the parks

[1:59:46] and recck committee reviewed the state fiscal year 27 wass program and the

[1:59:50] associated grant award. The committee recommended forwarding the item to the

[1:59:54] consent agenda and staff. Uh since uh that meeting staff received additional

[1:59:59] clarification as Miriam shared um and we've prepared this presentation to

[2:00:04] provide to council just a quick overview of the changes, the funding impacts and

[2:00:09] operational considerations for your review.

[2:00:13] And so tonight we are asking uh for you all to provide direction to us um on the

[2:00:19] three alternatives. And so option number one, two or three regarding the

[2:00:24] execution of state fiscal year 27 while mass agreement um agenda bill 6951

[2:00:30] and the related budget amendment. Um staff is recommending that council

[2:00:36] council direction requested um on options one through three. Um and I've

[2:00:41] already stated the other um considerations below. We are happy

[2:00:47] happy to answer questions and we do want to acknowledge that we have received um

[2:00:52] questions from council member Kanye back on July 9th that we we believe we've

[2:00:57] addressed. Um and then we received some questions today from council member

[2:01:01] Vincent um that we hope we answered some of those questions um and if not we're

[2:01:07] happy to follow up in um in writing, but I would love to open it up to uh full

[2:01:12] counselor for for any questions that you all may have. Thank you for the

[2:01:15] opportunity. >> Mayor, may I ask a clarifying question

[2:01:18] of her, please?

[2:01:22] » I I know it's out of the ordinary, but I'm trying to clarify with the three

[2:01:26] options. If option one is what is in the packet already, so that that when you

[2:01:32] make a motion that you're making a motion based on what's on here and then

[2:01:36] you would if you want to do one of the alternatives, you would make an

[2:01:40] amendment. Is that correct, Erin? That is correct, Christina, and I appreciate

[2:01:44] you um offering that clarification. >> Thank you.

[2:01:49] » Okay, so question and answer. Council mayor,

[2:01:54] can I get a motion first, please? >> Okay, so um

[2:01:59] do I have a motion to bend the bill? Am I ahead of my No, I the

[2:02:05] bill number 692 51. >> So move. Okay, that's I just need

[2:02:12] second.

[2:02:16] » Okay, you you make a motion and Peter can second it or I can second. Right.

[2:02:21] » So, this is a motion for all three options.

[2:02:25] Can you clarify this?

[2:02:30] » I am not 100% sure. And Erin, are you able to respond to that?

[2:02:36] » Yes. Um, we are seeking um council guidance and direction um on how you all

[2:02:42] would like for us to proceed. We were originally on consent agenda,

[2:02:47] but based on what we've shared with you this evening, we would like for um the

[2:02:52] council to provide guidance to us on how you would like staff to proceed.

[2:02:58] So the the the the question the the the next step is that we have to accept it

[2:03:05] to discuss this and I have to have a motion and second then we will discuss

[2:03:12] these three options and then we will make recommendation on how to proceed

[2:03:17] one of those options. Am I am I right Christina?

[2:03:21] » Yes. >> Beautiful. So, do I have a motion to

[2:03:25] discuss this uh >> to to pass the agenda bill as it was

[2:03:30] presented? >> Agenda bill.

[2:03:32] » A motion to pass the agenda bill as presented.

[2:03:34] » Okay. Do I have second? >> Okay. I'll second that.

[2:03:36] » Therefore, now we can talk about everything else. Okay. Good. Uh okay.

[2:03:40] So, I will start council member Cona. >> Okay. Thank you, mayor. Um, and thank

[2:03:44] you Miriam and Aaron um, for this presentation and specifically pulling

[2:03:51] this from consent so that we can discuss given the changes. Um, I really

[2:03:55] appreciate sharing this with the council in this capacity. Um

[2:04:02] [sighs] this

[2:04:06] this started as a grant and I from my understanding we are requesting or we

[2:04:11] are exploring if CATAC will devote some of its general fund to make up the

[2:04:16] difference in what the state has presented.

[2:04:21] I very much so believe in this initiative and I know that the state is

[2:04:27] hurting for money and so I know that this is a very important conversation. I

[2:04:31] mean all cities are are kind of looking for ways to save. Um, but I just this

[2:04:38] gives me pause because I also don't like hearing that and we hear this all the

[2:04:47] time in in social services. Can we spend less on people doing the work and give

[2:04:54] them more work to do? Um, I really really don't like that. And so I'll

[2:04:59] start with I'm interested in pursuing how we can continue this program because

[2:05:05] I do believe in it, but we're looking for additional administrative funding.

[2:05:10] Um because there are two the two hotels are outside the city of SeaTac. I'm

[2:05:15] curious if there's ways we can collaborate with the cities um that that

[2:05:20] we're you know connecting these residents to um or just being creative.

[2:05:25] I think CTAC has in my opinion has a reputation for being creative in this

[2:05:29] way. So I would really like to pursue option two. But my other reservations

[2:05:34] um are if we do take on a project that increases scope

[2:05:41] like I mean very candidly like is it reasonable to assume that we could do

[2:05:47] that work properly? We had a fantastic audit from DSHS that you all shared at

[2:05:53] the parks and wreck meeting. And I don't want to like boil this all down to just

[2:05:56] getting a a perfect audit every time. That's an amazing goal to have. But can

[2:06:00] we do good work with this increased scope and reduction in staff?

[2:06:14] Erin,

[2:06:18] I believe council member Con asked you a question or

[2:06:22] » I wasn't sure if you were making a statement or posing that question both I

[2:06:27] think but um in in you know the work that you guys do every single day you

[2:06:32] you see how much time you are putting towards each task. Do you believe that

[2:06:37] with this increased scope that like and reduced hours for our team does does

[2:06:44] that bode well for our ability to deliver on these services for people who

[2:06:48] are in a pretty like high stress crisis environment?

[2:06:54] » Yeah. No, you you bring up a really good point um asking you know folks to do

[2:06:58] more with less. Um we've been in those situations before particularly in the

[2:07:02] human services um you know uh field of work um where we have these es and flows

[2:07:10] of of of of resources and resource constraints. Um but it is it is

[2:07:15] extremely difficult to do good work really culturally specific and relevant

[2:07:19] work. um being highly uh compliant and um you know to the point you made going

[2:07:26] through um you know an audit with no findings um it does require a

[2:07:31] significant amount of of work and a dedicated individual to ensure that um

[2:07:38] you know our reporting and our fiscal stewardship and you know bottom line the

[2:07:43] well-being of the individuals we're serving is intact. And so um you know

[2:07:47] it's it is something very difficult um but I would say um it is difficult to do

[2:07:52] this work um at a reduced rate but it would be even more difficult to do this

[2:07:57] work um you know for it to be non-existent. I

[2:08:02] hope that answers your question. >> It it does. And does this from the

[2:08:06] presentation I'm understanding that this increased scope

[2:08:10] is due to working through the state's migrant

[2:08:16] housing model. Is that an okay initial assumption to

[2:08:20] make? >> Ma'am, do you want to take that piece?

[2:08:26] » Yes. Uh and the the short answer is is yes. Um I think what's happening at the

[2:08:31] state level, we do know that uh Ora did change uh divisions as well. And so

[2:08:36] they're also looking at policies, new policies that they're enacting. Um and

[2:08:41] stability for individuals is is a big thing that folks are talking about right

[2:08:45] now given the changes brought on by um by the one big beautiful bill and its

[2:08:50] impacts uh locally. And so uh given that the state is changing its model to

[2:08:55] really focus on that stability piece, um there has been that request for

[2:09:00] providers uh to shift uh a and really like focus on not just um uh the triage

[2:09:06] aspect of of housing, but also what does long-term stability look like for

[2:09:10] households. >> Okay. So the the the state's migrant

[2:09:15] housing model is is increasing capacity in the long-term stability.

[2:09:25] » That is correct. So um a bigger portion of the budget has been dedicated towards

[2:09:30] the direct assistance. Um just uh for context, previous years uh 60% to 65%

[2:09:37] was dedicated towards um housing uh of the budget. uh this year 70% of the

[2:09:42] budget is dedicated directly towards those uh housing costs or direct

[2:09:47] assistance uh specifically to address that stability piece. Uh what we did see

[2:09:51] was folks were coming back uh to uh providers asking for a little bit of

[2:09:56] more support to help them in achieving that self-sufficiency. And so the idea

[2:10:00] is to frontload that support so folks can achieve uh stability and

[2:10:04] self-sufficiency uh much quicker and and more longlasting and meaningful

[2:10:08] stability. >> Thank you. And um just to make sure that

[2:10:11] we're using the same vocabulary when you say stability um

[2:10:17] do you are you talking about participants who aren't

[2:10:22] who who maintain status in this program or as connected to this initiative?

[2:10:29] Like would they those individuals like when we're talking about stability are

[2:10:33] and we're reporting out the outcomes of this is this like people housed and or

[2:10:38] and or is this people who are continuing to receive services connected to this

[2:10:43] initiative? I'm sorry. Does that make sense?

[2:10:47] » Yeah, that does make sense and I hope I can answer uh your your question um uh

[2:10:52] uh better. So stability in this context goes beyond the program participation

[2:10:58] period. That means when we say we've closed out a case, this person, you

[2:11:02] know, navigated through the different um uh stages of the of the program. They

[2:11:07] came into emergency housing. Uh they were then assigned a case manager. They

[2:11:12] then secured an apartment. Uh they got a job and they were exited out. Uh

[2:11:17] stability is looking at throughout that continuum of services and beyond. So

[2:11:22] stability is being measured by re-engagement. How often are folks

[2:11:26] coming back to providers to say, "Hey, I've hit a stumbling block. This is

[2:11:31] what's going on. This is uh why I need additional services." So re-engagement

[2:11:36] is really the measure of stability. Uh are folks having to um you know give up

[2:11:41] their apartments? Are folks uh slipping back into homelessness? Uh you know what

[2:11:46] is really happening? And so stability and self-sufficiency again are just uh

[2:11:50] marked by uh re-engagement. How how often are folks re-engaging with us to

[2:11:54] ask for additional services and to what extent can the program provide those

[2:11:58] additional services even beyond the city of CAC support really the program as a

[2:12:03] whole statewide. >> Okay. Thank you. That does that does

[2:12:08] clarify. Um, I I agree that the stability is is

[2:12:15] important because, you know, as you're saying, if if folks are continuing to

[2:12:19] re-engage services, it sounds like maybe the initial services didn't

[2:12:24] meet the need that maybe that they had. Um,

[2:12:29] um, that being said, I know I know that, um, there's a lot of questions because I

[2:12:33] have also seen the emails. Um, so I don't want to take up too much time, but

[2:12:36] um, I guess for clarity, I'm very interested in finding creative ways to

[2:12:42] support this, I am cautious because I I recognize that this being a grant, um, I

[2:12:48] know that we're going into our budget. I just rather if we are going to put Seaac

[2:12:52] dollars that this we go we enter it into a position where we have more control

[2:12:57] over what is happening. Um because I do really care about like you mentioned the

[2:13:03] stability of residents and if every year we're like how much funding are we

[2:13:07] getting? Is the state going to like slow roll every year give us less and less

[2:13:11] funding until we just acquire this program? I would rather have that

[2:13:14] conversation first as opposed to just peacemealing it over time. Um because

[2:13:19] like I said this is as we know our community utilizes these services.

[2:13:23] They're so important. Um, but when it comes to an unreliable budget year after

[2:13:30] year, that that impacts the stability of people. So, um, again, I appreciate you

[2:13:35] bringing this forward and and the transparency around around the changes

[2:13:38] since we last discussed in the parks and rec committee. Thank you.

[2:13:43] » Thank you, council member. Um, Elona, council member,

[2:13:49] » thank you. Um, so yeah, this this is a complex issue. Um

[2:13:54] uh obviously I I am very supportive of immigration. Uh I'm an immigrant myself

[2:14:00] and I believe immigration is has an overall positive impact on our uh

[2:14:06] community and our country and all of that stuff. Um so I remember when we

[2:14:11] first had this discussion a few years ago uh the state offered this grant

[2:14:18] money to the city saying, "Hey, we've got this crisis." um uh we have this

[2:14:23] money available. Um it you know perhaps we can we can partner and help and all

[2:14:28] of that stuff. And uh at the time it was a crisis. We had to move quickly and uh

[2:14:33] the uh it the program the proposed program was fully funded. So it did not

[2:14:40] cost the city anything. Okay? It was fully funded. And so I said, "Okay,

[2:14:45] let's do this. Let's make sure we have an exit strategy at the end of the day

[2:14:48] so that we don't, you know, years down the line." end up you know holding the

[2:14:53] check having to pay the bill and that it looks like that's happening right now.

[2:14:56] So during that time I have uh reached out to uh the state and uh organization.

[2:15:03] So the way this um uh you know uh WASS which is the uh Washington migrant and

[2:15:09] asylum seeker you know support program works is the state of Washington

[2:15:16] actually administers this program and the grant funding and they have uh

[2:15:20] partner organizations which they call um uh spoke spoke organizations and so

[2:15:26] there's a bunch of them listed you know I'm already familiar with many of these

[2:15:30] and I'm sure some of you are uh Catholic Community Services of Western Washington

[2:15:35] is one of them. Um uh there's the Refugee Women's Alliance, WEWA. Um

[2:15:40] there's the uh immigrant and refugee committee organization. There's the

[2:15:43] International Rescue Committee, IRC, uh which is actually they have offices here

[2:15:47] in SeaTac in our very own city. Uh the Northwest Immigrant Rights Project.

[2:15:52] There's a whole list of organizations that are receiving direct grant funding

[2:15:56] from the state and our partner spoke organization.

[2:16:00] The Congalles Integration Network is not one of them. And the reason is because

[2:16:03] we are acting as the clearing house in between getting the money and then

[2:16:08] providing this and then doing some of the administrative stuff and and

[2:16:11] whatnot. And and as a result, we're in a position like we're in this position we

[2:16:16] are in today. So um all of these organizations are doing great work. I

[2:16:21] have no doubt about that. They're doing very important work. Uh very critical.

[2:16:25] Um years ago we had a similar situation where uh the federal government issued

[2:16:31] passports and they asked the city and other cities, hey would you be willing

[2:16:36] to administer and issue passports on our behalf and we'll give you money. And so

[2:16:40] the federal government would give us money and people can come to the city

[2:16:44] city hall and apply for a passport or renew a passport or whatever and we

[2:16:47] would do the administrative work and provide a passport on behalf of the

[2:16:51] federal government. Um over time they started paying us less and less money.

[2:16:56] So we were actually we ended up subsidizing that process where it cost

[2:17:01] us more to actually do the work for the federal government than they were

[2:17:05] actually reimbursing us. So our staff was so we had to subsidize that using

[2:17:10] our general fund. So at that time we evaluated that and we said okay this is

[2:17:13] really not working out. And so it's the federal government's role to do this.

[2:17:17] You guys do this. We're not going to do this on your behalf anymore because

[2:17:20] you're not paying us enough to do this. Right. So, um we don't have money now.

[2:17:26] We are looking for at a budget shortfall. We're talking about a

[2:17:30] potential uh tax increase by implementing a BNO tax now. Okay. Uh

[2:17:35] providing potential additional burden on our local business owners. Um and so, uh

[2:17:41] this is this is unsustainable funding. So, um, the state and us temporary

[2:17:49] one-time relief money to build what looks like now a permanent program

[2:17:54] without a plan to pay for these, you know, uh, once the temporary funds ran

[2:17:59] out, right? And this is a common mistake that a lot of um, uh, governments do.

[2:18:05] So, uh, this we know that the state has a lack of budget discipline. Spending is

[2:18:10] out of control. uh revenue is at an all-time increase but spending is even

[2:18:14] outpacing that. Um so in this particular case the state is actually offloading

[2:18:20] the state's own financial burden on our city and our residents.

[2:18:25] Okay. And so uh the question is very simple. The question is are we going are

[2:18:32] we willing to subsidize the state? And I think the answer is no here. Okay.

[2:18:38] So just like the passport, issuing passports and administering passports is

[2:18:41] the federal government's job and they should be doing that. And if they want

[2:18:45] us to do it, that's fine as a value ad as long as we're fairly compensated. In

[2:18:49] this particular case, this is the state's job. And if they want us to do

[2:18:53] this, I would I will happily do this as long as we are fairly compensated. Okay.

[2:18:58] So uh that that's my position on this. I would be okay with exploring option

[2:19:04] number two, which is we go back to the state and we say, "Hey, look, this is

[2:19:07] what it's going to cost with all this added stuff. You need to pay for this."

[2:19:11] But if the answer at the end of the day is no, then our answer should be, "Well,

[2:19:14] then we can't afford to do this. We just can't afford it." So, thank you.

[2:19:20] » All right, >> thank you, Mr. Mayor. [clears throat]

[2:19:25] Aaron and um I did send in a set of questions

[2:19:30] earlier today and I there probably wasn't enough time to uh get a response,

[2:19:35] but I do want to ask a few questions. Um looking at the materials here, of the

[2:19:41] 114 households we served um for state fiscal year 2026, how many

[2:19:47] are in permanent housing today? Do we know?

[2:19:54] We do um all of them were successfully housed as of May 31st this year. Uh so

[2:20:01] uh about a month before the end of the fiscal year, we were able to ensure

[2:20:05] everybody had a signed lease and a stable apartment, whether they were

[2:20:09] sharing with friends or a family. Um either way, every one of those

[2:20:12] households uh was in stable housing uh by the end of the fiscal year.

[2:20:17] » Thank you. And um for the record, can we define what a household is? Is that a

[2:20:23] family of three, four, one individual? H how do we um clarify that or classify

[2:20:29] that

[2:20:44] mindful of technical issues? Um, I know the team has assembled several

[2:20:51] answers for you, council member, I want to provide an opportunity for that. Uh,

[2:20:55] while they are, uh, sharing the information that they were able to

[2:20:58] gather. If I could also invite our deputy city manager, Tiffany Washington,

[2:21:02] to the podium, [snorts] uh, she and I have had conversations on this topic and

[2:21:07] want to make sure that, uh, we're uh, presenting the most factual uh, record

[2:21:12] for you, your consideration and deliberations tonight.

[2:21:15] » Thank you.

[2:21:21] Good evening, mayor and city council. Um, I think it'd be safer to answer your

[2:21:28] questions because we're convoluting two systems. There's a homelessness system

[2:21:34] » where households are defined very specifically. Yes.

[2:21:36] » And then there's this the migrant program and I'm not sure that those

[2:21:41] definitions align as well as the definition of permanent housing.

[2:21:46] because permanent housing can't be counted as permanent housing unless

[2:21:51] someone is still housed after six months.

[2:21:54] » Okay? >> Because if they're not, that that in

[2:21:57] that is equates to a return to homelessness. So, you can't determine if

[2:22:02] the program is successful unless the person is permanently housed.

[2:22:07] I do [clears throat] want to go back to Councilman Rucoin, one thing that you

[2:22:10] asked. As of now, no one is enrolled in this program. We successfully as

[2:22:16] determined by Miriam >> exited everyone out.

[2:22:20] » So the question that you all have to ask yourselves is do you want to fill the

[2:22:25] program back up with less funding which then could lead to you holding the bag

[2:22:31] because of the heart and the values that CATAC council members hold. Once we

[2:22:36] enroll new people we will consider them our responsibility until they're stable.

[2:22:42] We're not holding the bag right now because we successfully have housed

[2:22:46] everyone. So to me that is the crux of the decision which is once you say yes

[2:22:51] and you sign on the dotted line you are saying yes to bringing in new clients

[2:22:56] that we will be responsible for until they are uh permanently housed as

[2:23:02] defined in the grant. And so, um, to me it warrants, if I may, I don't know how

[2:23:09] this works in CEK, but I think it warrants going back to the state and

[2:23:13] saying this is your priority that we support,

[2:23:18] you should fund it fully, and if not, you could either reduce the the reduce

[2:23:23] what you're asking us to do >> to align with the funding you're giving

[2:23:27] us because right now they're giving us outcomes are here

[2:23:32] » and the funding is here and they either need to increase the funding to meet the

[2:23:36] outcomes or decrease the outcomes to where it's achievable. You cannot do

[2:23:41] what's in this current contract with a staff person working 31 hours a week

[2:23:46] when you've added permanent housing. So that's the other distinction. Permanent

[2:23:50] housing was not on CATAC in the previous contract. Correct. They've added it.

[2:23:53] » And as someone who's worked in permanent housing, that is the hardest outcome to

[2:23:57] achieve, >> the hardest.

[2:23:59] » And so I'll pause there and see. So, I I want them to answer your questions, but

[2:24:03] I want them to be technically correct in terms of the definition of a household,

[2:24:07] the definition of permanent housing, and then based on those definitions, how

[2:24:11] many people have been permanently housed?

[2:24:14] » Uh, thank you, uh, Deputy City Manager Washington for making those

[2:24:19] distinctions. Uh, for me personally, I I think if we do have an opportunity to

[2:24:25] house individuals in our community, um, we should we should do so. But I want to

[2:24:31] also recognize that we may not have the funding. So a question I have is if we

[2:24:36] were to accept what is it the $500,000 here, what exposure do we have in terms

[2:24:43] of we would be on the hook to continue to provide services? How much is that?

[2:24:49] How do we quantify that? >> We can find that out. I think the first

[2:24:52] question is how many people are residents of SeaTac? because I agree

[2:24:57] with your assumption that we are responsible to house the people in

[2:24:59] SeaTac. The referrals that the state sends can come from anywhere.

[2:25:04] » Okay. >> So that's I think the first question is

[2:25:08] how do we guarantee that the referrals that you send us are people impacted in

[2:25:12] » SeaTac? [clears throat]

[2:25:15] » And then you can answer the question, how much would it cost to serve the

[2:25:18] SeaTac person? I think it's hard because they're immigrants. So they came here

[2:25:22] and you know they they were >> divided amongst cities that had willing

[2:25:27] mayors and city councils to take them in. And so I don't think they're

[2:25:30] technically a resident. >> The question could be where are they at

[2:25:34] now? [clears throat] >> What shelter are they at or where are

[2:25:37] they physically located? And then if there are any of them physically located

[2:25:42] in SeaTac or a neighboring city, I think giving you that information would be

[2:25:46] helpful. >> It absolutely would. And right now I'm

[2:25:49] just looking at my colleagues. I'm leaning towards I believe option two um

[2:25:54] directing our city manager to go back to the state and try to negotiate some

[2:25:59] better terms because I I I want to house our our residents and also just the

[2:26:05] community at large who needs this resource and if we have the ability to

[2:26:08] do so we should seriously consider it >> and it doesn't preclude you from later

[2:26:13] funding it either. So it just says you you just are initiating.

[2:26:17] » Yes. Thank you.

[2:26:21] » Thank you. Um I

[2:26:27] I there's some background um that we have not mentioned here.

[2:26:34] So when we experienced large number of immigrants 20 25

[2:26:41] most of them were in Seattle and >> they were roaming around our streets.

[2:26:49] Um the king county did some work Seattle actually did some work and this council

[2:26:55] made commitment actually to treat these people humanely as a human being who

[2:27:01] come in our community. We didn't bring them. We didn't invite them. But we as a

[2:27:07] council decided to treat them as a human being, you know, helping them to settle

[2:27:13] where they want to settle. We were the only city.

[2:27:17] » Mhm. >> That went to the state

[2:27:19] » and asking money because it was very difficult. There was different profile

[2:27:24] that is no one knows what what they are doing because it's new things actually,

[2:27:29] right? we get $750,000. Uh actually we use it wisely and

[2:27:36] responsibly. That's why we

[2:27:40] those who have used this program are now in their

[2:27:47] homes. Most of them have

[2:27:52] all of them had had their immigration court and their uh immigration.

[2:27:58] They get their social security. They get their IDs. Some of them buy

[2:28:03] [clears throat] unless this council will do will not do that. If the council will

[2:28:08] not do that, these people would not be where they are.

[2:28:13] So I want to give that actually out there so people understand what we were

[2:28:18] through. Um this program will not be a permanent

[2:28:24] program. I cannot believe actually I couldn't

[2:28:27] believe when I find out the state is giving 500 or so because the state

[2:28:31] budget situation is very but the kindness and commitment from the state

[2:28:37] they decided to give this small amounts so they can finish the job I mean what

[2:28:43] we have started and we were very successful

[2:28:47] if we accepted this we are not let's say the way they put it

[2:28:52] on the hook new program like the basketball board that will stay in in C

[2:28:57] city for the next 20 years actually I'm sure 2027 2028 it they will not

[2:29:06] state will not ban but at the same time to look you know there will not be a

[2:29:13] need at that time now most of those people have jobs they are in their homes

[2:29:18] there's few are staying with friends coach surfing what we

[2:29:24] And this program is suited for those people. Uh how we will identify I like

[2:29:29] them to identify that they at least staying with relatives or friends in the

[2:29:33] city of Citad and they are in the process of getting jobs and getting

[2:29:38] their legal papers or all of those things. So actually this is this is

[2:29:43] actually I mean should I say God sent us because these people actually came to

[2:29:47] the city hall. I was in the city hall when few of similar situation came and I

[2:29:54] said I told them go talk to Aaron Brian famous you know and there's no budget or

[2:30:00] funding for there I yeah so I want to I want to uh actually uh mention

[2:30:09] something that council member McConn was in human service very long time 25

[2:30:15] the state cities the private charity They give human money to do good things.

[2:30:20] What they believe it, right? Good programs, whatever. But they always cut

[2:30:24] the the the workers, the people who do look, they want to do this, but they

[2:30:29] want to say, look, we want that person to work 10 hours. I mean, how come you

[2:30:34] can work 10 hours and do all one, you know? So,

[2:30:39] um, it's that's what they always does. And I am position number one. And the

[2:30:46] reason is that this is not continuing program.

[2:30:49] We are we need to finish the job that we as a council and city committee 2025

[2:30:55] 2025. uh there's a small number of

[2:31:00] potential applicants actually in this in this city that will need that support

[2:31:06] and the commitment that will come from our side is what position 32 it's making

[2:31:11] like fulltime position right what that means it's less than even 50,000 so if I

[2:31:16] getting 500,000 and spend

[2:31:21] or augmented 50,000 >> Mhm. 500,000

[2:31:26] I will take any minute basically I will really as as long as I believe the

[2:31:30] program or so I will be in position one I don't have problem with position two

[2:31:36] um you know my problem with with with position option number two is that when

[2:31:42] we go there if they say that look we set the priorities I mean uh goal is and the

[2:31:49] requirement is you either meet it or not meet it if you are not doing this then

[2:31:53] we will take out money we lose 500,000 for what 50,000 or 40,000 or even 10,000

[2:32:00] I don't think you know anyway I will support uh number one and if the council

[2:32:05] majority who are in here want to actually uh go number three and decline

[2:32:10] it it's up to them but I will be my priority number one my option number one

[2:32:15] is my 100 support if the majority of the council present here want to go too I

[2:32:22] don't mind that Mr. Sir uh Finchen. >> Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I I do

[2:32:27] agree with uh most of what you said. Um but I also just wanted to clarify the

[2:32:32] email that I sent to staff. I would like to receive a response to all of the

[2:32:36] questions that I posed. Um and just to clarify again, we currently do not have

[2:32:40] any members in this program. Um not to say that the need does not exist. Um,

[2:32:47] and again, if we were to go with option one or go with option two, um, once we

[2:32:55] expend the funds, the city of SeaTac is still obligated to, uh, provide these

[2:33:00] services. Uh, is it through the end of 2027 or is it through I think it was

[2:33:05] June 30th of 2027? Do we know, >> Erin? I think it's through June of 2027.

[2:33:12] Yeah, >> June 30th, 2027.

[2:33:15] » Yes. So, if we can get that estimate, I I think the mayor may be in the

[2:33:20] ballpark, >> 50,000 60,000. I just would like to know

[2:33:24] um what um we could expect coming out of our general fund as we are getting ready

[2:33:29] for our bianial budgeting. So, thank you,

[2:33:33] » Mr. Mayor. It's the addition, might I? It's the addition of permanent housing.

[2:33:38] So, the last time we didn't have to permanently house them, they added that.

[2:33:42] So if we go back, it's asking them to allow us to do the same good work that

[2:33:47] we did previously. And but adding a permanent housing, that's a really big

[2:33:53] that's a hard job. And there's agencies that are specifically designed and built

[2:33:59] to do that. We didn't find them permanent housing. Miriam connected them

[2:34:03] to people who did permanent housing. So just want to make sure that that part is

[2:34:08] clear. And that definition we can ask that that the state what do you mean

[2:34:13] permanent house do you want it five years or 10 years on home ownership or

[2:34:17] or you want it six months >> six months we can do within the actual

[2:34:21] to match contract >> yes

[2:34:23] » but if it's outside that then we cannot do we cannot do that and we cannot be

[2:34:28] responsible of that to be okay I want to recognize council member um uh uh Juan

[2:34:39] Thank you. Uh so I want to clarify about the um potential $500,000 grant funding.

[2:34:46] So uh there's at least a dozen organizations right now who are uh

[2:34:52] direct folk partners with the state of Washington's WAS program.

[2:34:59] And these are organizations that are already equipped with you know

[2:35:04] interpreters and uh you know uh uh lawyers and you know housing providers

[2:35:10] and all of that stuff. They they are because that that's what they do. These

[2:35:13] community based organizations that's their business. their business is um in

[2:35:18] fact I wrote this down somewhere because uh um

[2:35:27] uh provides um opportunities for refugees, asylum seekers, um uh

[2:35:34] trafficking victims and and all of that. So that's what they do. Okay, that

[2:35:38] that's their bread and butter. That's their primary business model. they are

[2:35:42] already direct partners with the state receiving funding. So this funding in my

[2:35:49] mind would be better served providing additional funding to the organizations

[2:35:55] who are already providing excellent services and have a long history of

[2:35:59] doing this to expand their existing services or potentially you know uh um

[2:36:05] uh expand the services according to the requirement the additional requirement

[2:36:10] that the state is trying to have us provide in my mind. So, uh, I just want

[2:36:15] to say that, um, and again, I think, uh, this is, uh, something that is is a

[2:36:20] complex issue, but at the end of the day, the question is whether or not

[2:36:24] we're going to be subsidizing state or not using our local taxpayers money and

[2:36:30] and in in turn assuming the responsibility of the

[2:36:35] state. Okay. So, just want to leave you with that. Thanks,

[2:36:40] » Council Member Okono.

[2:36:44] » Thank you. And um thank you Deputy City Manager Washington for clarifying that

[2:36:51] there are currently not people in the program. Um, also just to mention that

[2:36:55] like it I think that was an important point to make because I I I know we're

[2:37:00] really focused about the funding and just remembering that for every dollar

[2:37:05] it is connected to a human being. Um, so I do appreciate that that we are

[2:37:10] currently not having an active program with active people we are discussing but

[2:37:15] the potential to impact other people. Um, and thank you again for clarifying

[2:37:20] permanent housing. I am really interested as we're negotiating with the

[2:37:23] state what that means and what that looks like because that's an excellent

[2:37:26] point that there are people who spend decades and are experts at navigating

[2:37:33] that and if they're asking us to take on that I I believe in the capabilities of

[2:37:38] our program yet I recognize how big of an ask that is. So I would very much so

[2:37:44] appreciate that specific clarification and um hearing that there's interest in

[2:37:50] option one while we are engaging the state regarding the additional funding

[2:37:56] could I we um get kind of some information on if funding was allocated

[2:38:04] from the general fund what that looks like for the budget like

[2:38:09] what what if anything might have to be dep prioritized. ized or just like the

[2:38:13] impacts of that. Um whether that would make us go over budget or if we'd still

[2:38:17] stay under budget. Um I just want to know if we do agree to something um you

[2:38:22] know the the repercussions that that could potentially have. Um but that is

[2:38:26] that is all I wanted to add. Thank you. >> Council member, just to clarify, telling

[2:38:30] us to write a decision card does not um bind us to it. There's another step in

[2:38:36] the process where decision cards are reviewed and decided upon and there's

[2:38:42] another time when when the city manager presents his proposed budget to you all

[2:38:46] where you have another opportunity and so directing one and two doesn't mean

[2:38:52] that you've signed on the dotted line and we have to fund the position next

[2:38:55] year. >> Amazing. Thank you for the

[2:38:57] clarification. I want to I want to say that

[2:39:03] we are not subsidizing the state of Washington or Colorado or me. We are

[2:39:09] not. This is one time funding that support is what we have done 2025

[2:39:17] as a concept which we have made made commitment

[2:39:22] to house those who are in our community that we didn't bring them we didn't

[2:39:28] invite them uh who are in our community and treat treat them

[2:39:36] humanely uh So I want to make sure that we

[2:39:43] we we have to set the record straight. This is not continuing program. It will

[2:39:48] not happen 2028, 2029 or 2031. This is one time to finish what we have

[2:39:54] started 2025. Uh council member uh

[2:40:00] » uh excellent points. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, I am not advocating for

[2:40:03] option three, but I would like to know more about it. Um, and its potential

[2:40:07] impacts if we were to decline uh this grant. What What are the impacts

[2:40:12] to the city of SeaTac? >> I would say I think we're talking about

[2:40:17] two different commitments. I hear from the the mayor a commitment to the

[2:40:22] immigrant community that came over at that time.

[2:40:25] » Um, >> are they all housed? No.

[2:40:30] the impact to SeaTac in terms of the immigrant community members that we took

[2:40:35] on and you all took on. Thank you. When asked, [clears throat]

[2:40:39] » those people th those people are housed. The question really is, do we want to

[2:40:46] continue doing that work with the remaining group of people that are

[2:40:50] unhoused? So, the impact to CATAC if we declined the agreement would be we would

[2:40:56] lose the $500,000 grant. we would not um enroll new people into the program.

[2:41:03] » Would we have any staffing impacts with our TLT positions?

[2:41:06] » Well, a TLT position by nature it's ter it's temporary. So, it would it would

[2:41:11] mean that the staff person who's a temporary employee right now there that

[2:41:16] Miriam her position would end at the like I think immediately Gwen would it

[2:41:22] be July 31st of this year? July 31st of this year

[2:41:26] » and that's if we were to go with option three and and the reason I pose this

[2:41:30] question because I I appreciate the dialogue from my colleagues here but

[2:41:34] hearing that we have um service providers who um this is really their

[2:41:39] expertise if the city of SeaTac were to forfeit this money would the state

[2:41:44] redistribute this to them how do we know or

[2:41:48] » the reason why you don't have those great people who are expert because they

[2:41:52] don't want it so people aren't it's permanent housing is the hardest outcome

[2:41:57] to achieve and it's a pay for performance outcome meaning if you have

[2:42:02] 50 people you have to get those 50 people housed and every time you get

[2:42:05] them housed you can invoice for it. >> Yes.

[2:42:08] » And then depending on their definition at the six month mark if they return

[2:42:12] back to homelessness you lose a percentage of your funding. So people

[2:42:16] aren't like lining up at the door to enroll new people in permanent housing.

[2:42:21] If they were they would have given it to them. So there's a reason why they added

[2:42:25] it. I'd love to have that conversation with the state and say why did you add

[2:42:29] that? We were doing great. >> Yes.

[2:42:31] » With our piece. >> And so at minimum say why don't you give

[2:42:35] the permanent housing piece to the permanent housing providers. We just

[2:42:38] haven't had that conversation. >> I think we need to because we aren't we

[2:42:43] we are not experts in housing people and there are many organizations that are

[2:42:48] and do it well. and Erin, who does that now for us? Who permanently houses the

[2:42:52] people in the program? >> Yeah, we have we have a few and a couple

[2:42:56] of them have been offlined. Um and and Miriam can speak to that. Um but

[2:43:01] Congress Integration Network is a per is an organization that does permanent

[2:43:04] health. Y >> um Lutheran Community Services, um World

[2:43:08] Relief, um there's another newer organization called Track Associates.

[2:43:14] Um, Miriam, would you be able to speak to the other folks that have been

[2:43:16] providing the permanent housing?

[2:43:23] » I think that's good enough, Erin. I think the point you're trying to get to

[2:43:26] is that there are skilled providers who do this work. so interested in if we do

[2:43:31] do it, [clears throat] >> let us continue to do what we do well

[2:43:34] » and can we give the the permanent housing providers funding to do what

[2:43:39] they do well and partner together to have the greater outcomes that we see

[2:43:43] right now. >> Okay. And and last question. So if we

[2:43:46] were to choose option one or option two, this question is for staff. How

[2:43:50] confident are we that we can meet these deliverables that have been placed on us

[2:43:55] by the state of Washington?

[2:44:00] I asked that question already to the staff. So if I may, I'd said if we do if

[2:44:05] we take the money we have and we don't supplement it,

[2:44:08] » can you meet the outcomes? And the answer was no.

[2:44:11] » Okay, I have no further questions. >> So actually we spend quite some time

[2:44:16] this topic and it's very good discussion actually. It's really knowing the

[2:44:20] information having the information knowing what what's your value is and

[2:44:25] and I want to move on on this after Mr. Guan and the staff asked us to give us

[2:44:32] to to give them direction. So I will take each one of them which you need is

[2:44:38] option number one option number two option number three and one of those

[2:44:42] options have to carry actually the majority of sitting council members here

[2:44:47] tonight. Okay, Mr. K. >> Okay, I have a couple questions. So, uh,

[2:44:51] first, um, I want to clarify. I remember when the council approved the initial

[2:44:58] grant funding to, uh, basically start this process and this program was in

[2:45:04] late 2024. 2024 was when we approved this late

[2:45:08] 2024. Um the crisis unfolded because of a church in the city of Tquula and that

[2:45:17] overflow to neighboring cities. I I followed this entire thing from the

[2:45:21] beginning and so um here we are today. But question I have is the funding um

[2:45:28] the initial funding that we received that we have been administering and and

[2:45:33] whatnot providing programs and permanent housing and you know job training all

[2:45:36] that stuff legal services. Uh so that was supposed to cover initially the

[2:45:43] initial intake group. >> Is that funding sufficient to complete

[2:45:49] the whole whatever outtake whatever it's called for that group? Yes.

[2:45:53] » Okay. So, this new funding, the 500,000. The first funding was 750,000 if I

[2:45:59] remember. Now, this is 500,000. This would not be to cover the existing folks

[2:46:04] that we are already serving. It would be for new intake.

[2:46:09] » So, we're not serving any existing people right now. It would be for new

[2:46:12] intake, noting that they did reduce the number of people that we would have to

[2:46:17] take in. Yes. >> Right. And it would also expand to

[2:46:20] permanent services and all of that stuff. Okay. So, at the end of the day,

[2:46:24] » we're um there's more work required >> for less money,

[2:46:29] » more complex work. >> So, we're going to have to pay to make

[2:46:32] up the difference from our own budget >> if you choose option one. Correct.

[2:46:36] » If we choose option one. Okay. So, that's the definition of subsidizing

[2:46:40] this thing. >> Okay. So, um I have I have it sounds

[2:46:45] like we all have questions more questions about this. I I'm not 100%

[2:46:49] ready to make a decision on this tonight. Is there a timeline when we

[2:46:52] have to make a decision? >> There is actually

[2:46:54] » Mr. We should ask me that question, not stop.

[2:46:59] » So So we discussed this and it's actually a

[2:47:05] a a a motion. We have to make a motion. Uh we made motion and we second it and

[2:47:11] we discussed this and we have to go and we have three choices. Christina can

[2:47:16] correct me. Take this number one, option one, number two, option two and option

[2:47:25] number two or option number three. There's no other we or any other you

[2:47:30] know we have very clear role. So if you finish it I I want to take it um a

[2:47:35] motion uh to accept the the funding.

[2:47:42] I have to make motion, right? One of those, right?

[2:47:45] » So, we already have a motion on the table. I believe the difference between

[2:47:48] the motion on the table and option one or option two, Cindy or Jonathan can

[2:47:54] correct me if I'm wrong, is the portion about the direction. The direction is

[2:47:59] not included in the original motion. >> Okay. Um, so if you want one or two, you

[2:48:04] would need to amend the motion to uh direct the city manager or staff

[2:48:09] depending on which one you want. The third option um I believe would be

[2:48:14] failing the motion. >> Yeah. Okay, good.

[2:48:18] Point of information um for Christina, we could also amend the motion to seek

[2:48:23] additional time. Is that correct?

[2:48:28] Um, I'm gonna I know there was a time constraint on this, so I'm gonna

[2:48:31] » It's tied to the staffing. So, the grant is tied to the staffing. So, we would

[2:48:36] have to act before July 31st or the funding that's tied to the

[2:48:43] staff would run out and she'd essentially be laid off.

[2:48:46] » Thank you. >> Okay. So,

[2:48:49] you want to make who want to make motion to accept number one or number two? Mr.

[2:48:53] Definson. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'd like to make a

[2:48:57] an amendment to the motion to authorize execution of the agreement and direct

[2:49:02] the city manager to engage the state regarding additional administrative

[2:49:06] funding or further reductions to required outcomes and scope.

[2:49:12] » So, do I have a second? >> So, second just to be clear and Cindy

[2:49:16] again and Jonathan if I'm wrong um you're actually needing to amend the

[2:49:22] original motion. The original motion was to do all of that except for the

[2:49:25] direction. So the amendment would be to add the direction.

[2:49:32] » Well, he's saying option two. He said >> he combined one and two, I think.

[2:49:38] » So So is number two not including all of the contracts and everything else that

[2:49:43] it already had? >> It isn't.

[2:49:47] » Option two doesn't say that. >> I know. Um it but neither the first one

[2:49:52] doesn't mention all the contracts either.

[2:49:53] » Option two is you're saying authorize execution of the agreement. That's

[2:49:57] accepting the contract and directing the city manager to talk to the state. So

[2:50:01] it's both. It I think it is what council member Vincson just said.

[2:50:04] » And number one though, isn't that also accepting the contract but then doing a

[2:50:08] separate direction >> directing the city manager to fill out a

[2:50:12] decision card adding supplemental funding.

[2:50:14] » Okay. So in my for if I'm understanding this correctly option one and two

[2:50:19] both include the original motion which was to accept it. They just have

[2:50:24] different direction. So we already have a motion on the table to accept do all

[2:50:30] the agreements. We now need to make an amendment related to one or two for the

[2:50:35] direction. Which direction are you wanting? So it sounded council member

[2:50:39] Vincent that you wanted um option two. >> That is correct. I want option two.

[2:50:45] » Okay. So, >> do I

[2:50:47] » right now I have moved by Vincent then we'll get a second uh to direct the city

[2:50:52] manager to engage the state regarding additional administrative funding or

[2:50:55] further reductions to required outcomes in scope.

[2:50:59] » So, do I do I have second? >> I'll second.

[2:51:04] » Okay. So, um All right. Okay. So, let's vote for Mr. Fer's motion.

[2:51:11] » Take the vote. >> Yes. Yeah.

[2:51:13] » Oh, your motion. You want to say yes or no?

[2:51:16] » Yes. >> Okay. Council member Khan.

[2:51:21] » Yes. >> Council me Cona.

[2:51:23] » Yes. >> And I would be no. Okay. So, we will

[2:51:27] take number two and I want [clears throat] you to mention it that I

[2:51:30] voted against and other three council members who are presently voted for.

[2:51:36] » Yes. And that was the vote on the amendment. I now need one on the motion

[2:51:40] as amended. Okay. Who want to make a motion?

[2:51:44] » We already have the motion. We just need a vote, please.

[2:51:47] » So, uh, what's second?

[2:51:51] » Revote. >> We have to put

[2:51:55] » Yes. So, now you're voting on the original motion, which was to pass the

[2:51:59] item. >> Okay.

[2:52:00] » With the amendment, uh, which is the direction.

[2:52:04] » Okay. So, uh, all right. So, council members, um would you unmute your mic

[2:52:11] while I'm reading uh motion bill attended bill 69 51, an ordinance

[2:52:18] authorizing the city manager to execute a contract with the state of Washington

[2:52:24] for fiscal year 2027 to Washington immigrant asylum seeker

[2:52:30] supports program funding authorizing the distribution of the fun agreement

[2:52:37] uh congress and international network CIN uh and participation hotelis and

[2:52:47] then I will move out take out the extension the the the extension of the

[2:52:52] human position because that's not on the second option

[2:52:56] » I no >> no that one's

[2:52:58] » it's concluded >> also included

[2:53:00] » okay >> all of those are included in one or two

[2:53:03] » all right and the extension of UNCF is coordinated temporary limited and T term

[2:53:09] L TL TLT position and a amending the 2025

[2:53:16] 2026 by annual budget for those who are sorry

[2:53:21] » and the amendment part which is directing the city manager to engage the

[2:53:26] state regarding additional administrative funding or further

[2:53:29] reductions to required outcomes in scope >> as Christina say

[2:53:34] okay good For those who are in favor say I

[2:53:37] » I >> I will be no

[2:53:39] » nay. >> Okay. So that means it fail. That's what

[2:53:42] I was telling. >> Okay.

[2:53:43] » Yes. Yeah. So it failed. >> So now you don't have a So now I think

[2:53:49] that's a pass. >> What is that?

[2:53:52] » Nothing basic basically. >> Yeah.

[2:53:55] » It failed. Yes. That's what I was doing. >> Yeah.

[2:53:59] » All right. Okay. So which means that we decline it the 500,000 and it will go

[2:54:04] back to the state of Washington and good luck state of Washington. Right. Very

[2:54:08] good. I love the law. Okay. All right. Um

[2:54:15] moving to committee members. Okay. Now we move. Okay. Unfinished business. It

[2:54:19] seems to me there's no unfinished business and councel members. Do you

[2:54:23] have any comment or or or or questions? It seems to me that no one has and I

[2:54:30] will call uh Tony this meeting 8:48

[2:54:39] to remove it.

Regular Council Meeting 7/28/2026

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