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Good morning, a lot to call the meeting daughter. If anyone would like to address the board at any time, we have three
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opportunities at the beginning and the meeting when the item comes up, as we call, that item are at the end of the meeting.
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If you need to sign up, the table to my right, your left-out side, please fill out a card and bring them forth.
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And we'll make sure that you get to speak on the item that we'll be discussing today.
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Okay, any, let's see, do we have anybody like to address the board this time?
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If not, the end.
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Okay, I'm going to say that the minutes for the blast meeting. Any questions or comments? Can you please have a chance to look at those? If not, I entertain a motion to approve.
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Second, I'm leaving a second, discussion on favor say aye. All opposed motion passes.
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Item 3, authorised execution of contract initial work authorization with Jacob's engineering group, ink for construction, engineering and inspection services for the SSH45 Southwest Project.
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All these are agenda items, excuse me, I'm going to read these and then I'll intertation
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the most.
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For approval, the execution of a contract, initial work authorization for independent environmental
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compliance management services via CH45 Southwest Project, number five, approve of work authorization
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number one for Parsons, Pinkerhoff, Ink for General Engineering, Consulting Services, Related
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to 1-8-3 North Project, number six, approve work authorization number two with Parsons,
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for the General Engineering Consultant Services Related to the MoPAC South Project, number 7,
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approved work authorization, number 3 with Parsons, written off ink for the General Engineering
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Consulting Services Related to the SH-45 South West Project. Any questions or comments?
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Otherwise, I would entertain a motion for the consent agenda.
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So I can move a second to the discussion.
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I'm using on.
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I remember three.
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Just because.
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Okay.
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Do we notice?
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We've got a motion a second and we've got one.
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It's tension.
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All of us say aye.
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Opposed motion passes.
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Thank you.
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Okay.
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I've already done that.
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Number 9, except the financial statements for July 2016.
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Morning to everyone. Morning directors, how are you today? Mary Temple Controller for the record,
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and I'm here to present the financial statements for July of 2016. The revenues are coming in
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slightly above the straight line average expectation, but to put it into context, I just wanted
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point out that this year's revenues are 1.4 million higher than the same period last year.
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So the roadmaze are doing well in that context.
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A couple of things about upcoming in the August financials will be that as we wrap up
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the audit and prepare our adjusting entries, there may be some things that will roll through
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the July financial statements as I redo them and then ultimately settle in the August
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statements. So there could be some changes. If there's something significant, I will point it out at the time.
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And also, the August statements will reflect the refunding that we finalized on August 9th.
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But other than that, I have nothing more to say that's outstanding about July's results.
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And I would be happy to answer any questions.
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Any questions to comments? Not in time. What should you prove?
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Move approval.
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I mean second discussion. I'll focus the eye. All opposed motion passes.
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Okay.
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Item number 10, exercise the option of the mobility authority. I think we're going to table this motion, is that correct?
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Okay, so we will table item number 10.
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That is correct, but since we have our liaison statement, is there a statement?
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Is there a statement? Given you are our liaison back to the department on this particular item, we would like to have this taken up in September.
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So we can move forward on in hearing design.
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So we were asked to official channels that I don't know
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that the Russians hacked, but they could have.
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We were asked from the Department to table this for further
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consideration of what others competing enters for 1-8-3.
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We can't figure out what it would be.
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We know it has this, 1-30.
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So thank you for being here and being on a lay-down.
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But if you would share that with the United States,
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Bill's got all the information on how it's additive
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to both systems.
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So any delay costs the department, as well as us,
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the ability to relieve that congestion
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and to recognize revenue.
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Sorry to put John Spot.
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I always don't spot you.
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He's a standing young from the script.
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You are in your money and day for sure, right?
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Thank you, sir.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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All right. Now, we are going to go into an executive session to discuss the following items, item number 11 to discuss acquisition of one of more parcels of interest in real property for the first and last week.
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on a three south and two nine east main expressway project related legal issues, including
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consideration of use of intimate domain to condemn property for cent to five five one point
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of seven two and five five one point of seven one item number twelve discussed legal issues related
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to claims or against the mobility authority pending or contemplated litigation any related
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settlement officer or any matters as authorized by five five one point of seven one 13 discussed
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legal issues related procurement if enhancing the mobility authority transportation projects
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has authorized by 551.071 and to discuss 14 discussed personnel matters is authorized by
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551.074 board members.
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We will now recess into the waves in conference room after we finish the executive session.
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We return to this room and reconvene our meeting.
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We are now in recess.
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A and we are now recessed from the executive session where we convene the Board of
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No recession in Lebroman, boardroom is now with the core and present, I can reconvene the meeting
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called the board to order the board to no action in executive session.
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Okay, we will now take up item number 15, authorize negotiation, execution of a contract of purchases, following the scrap parcels of properties of interest for the 183 south version of expressway, project, and for the 290 east project.
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Good morning, Mr. Chairman, board members. We have discussed items 15 and 16 in the executive session, and you have had an opportunity to review the offers for settlement that have been made.
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And I guess unless there's any questions for me, I would ask if we have a motion on item number 15A.
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So move.
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Sorry, Chairman.
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I'd like to make my motion first.
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You can have a second.
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I'll turn it over in the law.
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I'll appreciate that.
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It's long to.
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On item 15A, I moved that the CTR may authorize the executive director to negotiate,
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execute and exercise an option to purchase.
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A 1.159 acre parcel real estate owned by KAF development and located at 609 South Highway 183 in Austin, Texas, Travis County.
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The Executive Director is directed to determine whether acquisition of the entire parcel is in the best interest of the mobility authority prior to exercising the option.
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In the event, the Executive Director determines that acquiring the entire parcel is not in the best interest of the mobility authority.
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The Executive Directors authorized to negotiate and execute a settlement agreement in an amount not to exceed
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$465,000 to acquire
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$379 plus or minus feet denial of access from the same 1.159 acre partial of real estate owned by KAAF development
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For public use to relate it to the expansion construction operation and maintenance of highway 183 south
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also known as Berksham Expressway, a state-highway project by adopting the resolution presented
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in executive session.
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You'll hear for a second.
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You can move in a second, you can move in a second, you can move in a second,
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you can
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Okay? Item 15B is the parcel 114E, which was also discussed in executive sessions. I'm available for any additional questions or if you have a motion.
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With regard to item 15B, I move that the CTR may authorize the executive director to execute a settlement agreement in an amount not to exceed $30,000 on a 0.055 acre parcel of real estate.
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owned by Dr. Masud Arami Masjid Kamala poor and Muhammad Arami and located at 61-11FM-969
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Austin, Texas, Travis County. For public use related to the expansion, construction,
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operation and maintenance of Highway 183 South, also known as Burkstrom Expressway,
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a state-highway project by adopting the resolution presented in executive session.
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Go here a second.
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Move a second and then you're discussion.
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All the papers there.
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All the posts, motion passes.
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And then item number 15, C, is personal 48. This time of the 290 East Project, also known as the Manor Expressway. Again, I'm available for any questions.
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We did discuss this in executive session, or if appropriate, time for motion.
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Mr. Chair, with regard to item 15, C, I moved this ACTRMA authorized the executive director to execute a settlement agreement in an amount not to exceed $2.5 million.
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on a 0.74 seven acre acre acquisition from an 8.716 acre parcel real estate owned by
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sovereign acquisition comma LP and located at 97 17 highway 29 east in Austin, Texas,
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Travis County for public use related to the expansion construction operation and
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maintenance of highway 29 east also known as the mainer expressway a state highway
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project by adopting the resolution presented in an executive session.
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Do it here a second.
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Okay.
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Maybe a second.
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Any discussion?
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I'll put it to say aye.
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All opposed?
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Motion passes.
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Okay, now we move on to item 16. And item 16 is not for acquisition property. It is for consideration of the use of imminent domain to condemn property, specifically parcel E15 of the 183 South Burst from Expressway Project.
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Again, we discussed this in executive session. I'm available for any additional questions, or we could have a motion.
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Mr. Chair, with regard to item 16A, I move that the CTR may authorize the use of the power
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of a minute domain to acquire an easement interest of a 0.242 acre parcel of real estate owned
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by church of Christ at East Side and located at 5701 East Martin Luther King, Junior Boulevard
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in Austin, Texas, Travis County, for public use related expansion, construction and operation
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and maintenance of 183 South Project, also known as Burst from Expressway, a state highway
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project by adopting the resolution presented in an executive session.
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Do you hear a second?
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May the second in discussion?
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All in favor say aye?
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Aye.
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All opposed motion passes.
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Okay, we will now take up out a number 17,
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the briefing on the MoPAC improvement project.
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Jeff, thank you, Mr. Chairman, the more injectors.
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I want to bring up Greg Martell, a project manager for our DB Contractor Cs2M, FD Stokes,
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H&TV, or part of our oversight team. I'm going to give you a overview of the project.
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Just a quick high level where approximately 75% complete with the north end, from 2222 to
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Palmer, pretty much very close to being done, we have the finished line in sight for the
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northbound opening, north of 183, it's substantially complete, but there's some bridge painting
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and work and I'll get a little bit more into that.
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The south end, there's a lot of activity going on in particular between until the end season
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shot as with the undercrossing work, so you're going to see up and down the corridor, there's
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three main areas were most the worst going on. In the steck road area between 2222 and
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183, the name moved down south and the northbound side between 35th Street and 45th Street.
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If there's drill shaft work going on, on the northbound side and then between Venice and the
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crossing work. So under crossing works about 70% complete. Soundwalls are about 50% complete overall.
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Labor metrics last, overall the average and August, it was up to 300 on average on site.
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As of last week, if you take out the rain in the weekends, their average is right around
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330 and as of last Thursday and Friday, they were up to over 400 to last Thursday and
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Friday.
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So the workforce, momentum is looking good.
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Construction progress.
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This is a photo of the northbound lane looking at 183 from the stack.
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Underpass.
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I'm starting with the 222 to Palmer Lane.
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Again, the bridge, paintings are going on and lettering.
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That's on seven bridges.
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Here's a picture of the capital highway, Texas Highway.
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What is going to look like?
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Again, they're still, they're focusing pretty much on the northbound work regarding the
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bridge lettering and painting.
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The southbound will be completed after the opening of the northbound.
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Is that, or is that?
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Sorry.
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Do that's done.
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Capital Highway.
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Capital Texas Highway.
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Yeah.
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So there's really a five major pieces of work that needs to be done for us to open.
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One is the bridge painting, then there's a steck real bypass.
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This we'll talk about next, and that's where you can see the majority of the work being done right now.
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The top two photos here are on steck looking to the north,
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and the bottom two are south of the bridge looking towards steck.
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And if you're looking to bottom right, that's part of the main line where they're actually widening, they put down pavement for the widening.
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the left, that's the underpass. You can see some, there's a barrier wall that they have to
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pretty much a port in place while they're going to do. Between these deck road underpass and
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the main line.
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The third big piece is the roadway widening. Once that, once the retaining walls are
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in place, then they can start building up the base of the road. Again, that primarily, most of that
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work right now is going on between 22 and 183.
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Here's some pictures looking up a right as a looking at far west.
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Upper left is looking at 183.
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You can see how they're compact in the road base.
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This is the situation we had the rain.
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It took several days for it to dry out.
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Once it dries out, then you can put the pavement on.
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Next phase is the final paving.
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Again, on the northbound part of this section,
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The remaining part of the paving is the right lane and the shoulder from 222 to 183.
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This is a picture of what you can see.
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Looking at express lane is not much traffic.
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It's nice and black.
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The left two lanes of general purpose lanes have an overlay on there.
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And then the right lane and the shoulder needs to be done.
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Down under the underpass work on the southbound.
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This is a significant amount of work has been completed over the last month.
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there. You can see the road base has been put in place. The top picture is actually looking
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northbound. You can see the underpass coming out towards you.
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The southbound, the south
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two photos, the lower two photos are actually looking southbound.
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Within the next two weeks,
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they're going to be shifting the southbound lanes over the southbound undercrossing. So that you'll
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the dark brown. That is the current configuration. That'll be taken out of service. So that'll be
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I think that's going to be some overnight work, but pretty much that'll be a fairly easy
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switch, and that'll be put pretty much in its final configuration for the general purpose
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southbound.
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On the northbound on the crossing, this work is approximately 30 days behind
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where how the southbound is progressing,
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and here are some pictures of looking northbound
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of the entrance of the undercrossing. And there's some photos down on the side, not so
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interesting but filling up the back fill along the sides
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regarding the Northbound
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undercrossing. We're looking for the work to be completed as far as the roadway
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work to switch it over the top of the undercrossing the curse by November. So
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that's going to be a significant milestone in that the Northbound traffic we
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put back to what was originally. It's both the southbound and the Northbound
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general purpose lanes will be in the configuration it was before we did this
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which about a year ago.
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And the whole thing about this outbound, these undercrossings is, I mean it's providing an overall
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benefit to neighborhood because the lanes are depressed, it's lower, notice level, be less
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intrusive than the neighbors.
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Soundwalls, a lot of soundwalk work is ongoing now, primarily between 35th and 22th and 22th
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and West over an end field.
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On the lower left, you'll see what the, it's a drill shaft.
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What that does is, and again, I mentioned before, from 35 to 45, there's a lot of work
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on the Northbound lane.
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They're doing a lot of field shaft work at night and the day.
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They're putting these things real down about 20 foot deep, 15 to 20 foot deep, and they're
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on center about 18 feet on center.
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So I think you've got about four or five pieces of equipment out there going right now,
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simultaneously.
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We're guarding the customer contact trance, again, there's questions regarding soundwalls,
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when the soundwalls get in place, and when the pavement's going to be done, and the north end.
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Upcoming milestones.
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The Northbound Express line opening is weeks away. In very close, we can see the finish line. When we get with it
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about a week and a half of where we think we're going to be opening, we'll build a call a day. But all it's going to
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depend on rain and productivity. But right now it's looking really good. Northbound traffic shift, look for that
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her by maybe early into November and then the southbound traffic shift that'll be
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happened in two weeks out. Overall, they overall opened in this
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quest lanes were looking at early next year. With that I'm including my part of
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the presentations open any questions you have Craig Martels. I don't know if
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you want to make any comments or he's here to answer your questions.
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Thank you.
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So Jeff, the capacity of no pack goes back, you know capacity of no pack goes
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back to it's original capacity when the northbound traffic switch occurs.
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That's correct.
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Over the tunnel.
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Yes.
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And I did ask you a text out and play yesterday while back about, I don't know if we realize
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this is the only underpass in the entire central Texas area, other than bridges.
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So.
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I look around. I can tell you, sure.
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Yeah, you look back up.
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You can't wait for me.
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But I have had Mr. Chairman through the years.
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A lot of people say, why don't you just build a tunnel from
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I-35 over to wherever 360.
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And I'm here to tell you right now.
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You would be a very difficult proposition.
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We're happy to have these things.
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Maybe the last two.
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Yeah.
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Maybe you're right.
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Unless they go down on.
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with the inter-states.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Okay, well, Emma 18, let's see, number 18, Executive Director's Board.
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We had one in three south also.
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Oh, I'm sorry. I missed that. There we go.
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Good morning Chairman, Director's Justin Ward, Director of Engineering.
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There's one introduced, give you guys a one in three south project update.
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We'll have air in Austria, our Ackens Project Manager.
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Come walk you through the metrics where we are in some construction photos.
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and I believe your director of communication, Steve Pastelnik, will go into a little bit of our
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outreach, and then we'll all be available for questions afterwards, so that I'm going to
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hand it to Aaron.
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All right, for the, for the record again, I'm Aaron Altrie with that,
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and serving as your project manager for the oversight team. Real quick, I want to do a high-level
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overview of, again, where we are on the project schedule. You can see there where the yellow board
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indicates our design progress. We're actually closer to 90% complete, actually 65% of the
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plans have been released to the field for construction now. Construction still progressing towards
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our opening to totaling dates of 2019 and 2020. A couple of key notes I wanted to bring up.
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We did open our field office in July, and actually Saturday, September 10th is our one year anniversary
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from notice to proceed. So first year in the project is now behind us. So how are we doing?
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Cash flow is one of the key metrics we use. You kind of see where we stand on the project.
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The green line you see there is CRC's original project schedule or project baseline.
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So if everything goes right on the project, this is how to intend to execute and draw the money.
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The red is just in time delivery, kind of described that as,
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some of my son gets an assignment, and he's got two weeks to do it.
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He knows it's going to take him three days,
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and he waits until the last three days to do it.
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If CRC did that with everything on the project,
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and waited till the last few days to do the work,
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and delivered still on time,
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the cash flow would look something similar to the red.
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There are other ways they can mitigate
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and change the schedule by resequencing the work,
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But as soon as they don't resequence the work, they just do everything as lazy as they can, that would be a red line.
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As you can see, the cumulative, which is there in blue, and we actually have the monthly cumulative actual, kind of with the yellow color,
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shown 131 million, they're trending much closer to the upper end of our range that we've established,
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and the DAC-Black line represents how they currently project to execute the project.
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So, a little bit below their original baseline, but overall staying pretty much on track.
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August, this is going through July.
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August, we did have approximately 15 rain days of loss work, so in our phase of the project,
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we have a lot of open ground.
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We will see a little bit of deviation next month.
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Drill them down a little bit deeper in design.
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Again, overall design, we are at approximately 90% complete.
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You can see the gray there indicates our planned progress, where we intended to be at this point in time and the blue indicates where we actually are.
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So you can see for the roadway, the drainage, the structure, the ITS and tolling, we're actually a head of schedule.
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Closer to 95% complete for if you average just those elements alone.
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Awesome water utilities where we got challenges and we're working to those that she's right now.
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wanted to talk a little bit specifically about awesome water so this is our primary area
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concern I think Mike asked me a question the first time I presented what are the things
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that keep me up at night on this project utilities with my answer I should have been more
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clear it was awesome water utility there's 75% complete they anticipated being 100% in June
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timeframe was where they intended to hit they tried to accelerate this portion of work
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So they can get the existing lines out of the way, so they can construct their rest of the facility.
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In July, CRC did come to the RMA, saying, hey, we need help.
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We know you've been set by side with us all along, but we, if there's anything you can do to help us.
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So since that point, we've been hand in hand with CRC in the city.
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Give you an indication of some of the things we're doing.
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There was already a weekly meeting, we were facilitating, or the CRC was facilitating with the city to talk about technical issues as we work through the design on city of Austin.
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That meeting has been more focused, I would say.
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We've focused not only on the issues, but we look back and say, all right, these are the comments we just received from the city.
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Help us understand your comments so we can address it appropriately.
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appropriately. And if we address it this way, well that satisfies your quest. Another part
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of the meeting is to look back and say, here's our new plant set. We revise it based on your
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comments. Let's put it up on the screen. Here's what we agreed to in the last meeting. And here's how
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we've addressed it. So we're trying to open up that communication. Make sure we're truly talking
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and apples and we're talking issues. Another step we've done is Scott Yardis, I think, is in
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room, CRC's PM, myself, and Randy Harvey, who is our single point in contact with the city.
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Sit down weekly to talk about those technical issues that are unresolved at the technical
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meetings.
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So the goal of that is to truly understand the city's viewpoint and how which way this
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issue is addressed impacts their water system or their wastewater system.
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And so you're at C or Scott to explain how impacts our project.
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So depending on which way issues go so that we're fully educated and we can educate our management teams.
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The third meeting, we've got Justin Jeff Daily setting in a couple of meetings.
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We're sitting down with awesome water, public works, and trying to close and resolve the issues that have been escalated up.
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now that everybody's educated on the different viewpoint and perspective.
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It's been going for a little while.
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We've had some progress on some elements.
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We found some ways to streamline the permitting process.
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That said, while we're 75% complete, we have six of our 20 packages per minute at this time.
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So we're still working through this challenge.
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We'd like to remind you that if you look at our cash flow, we're still tracking on target.
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That's a credit to CRC working everywhere that can to work around and mitigate this issue while it's ongoing.
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And I've got Scott's commitment that we will continue to do that.
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So we're working hard, we're working together just to keep working to keep pushing through this issue.
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Back in a big picture, overall utilities.
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We have, again, 16 utilities.
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13 on 13 of those. We have signed executed utility agreements between CRC and the utility and actually 12 of the 13 are under construction now for the relocation efforts. The 13th is actually 13 of the 13th is expected to come up.
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On line later this month with construction.
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Did one of touch on city of Austin again? And, you know, we talked about projects within a project. This is a monumental effort. We got 94,000 linear sheet or almost 18,000, or 18 miles of water waste water pipe to install as part of this relocation effort. If you look at a dollar perspective, it's roughly $35 to $40 million worth of effort just for water waste water alone.
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It's almost half of your recently awarded construction price for 45 South West.
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We are actually actually out there doing some construction, I didn't want to point out the upper
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left corner.
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I've tried to capture what it looked like before.
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This is in May.
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This is right after our groundbreaking ceremony up near Springdale, looking to the south.
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And you can see we had just begun some clearing and groving.
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To the right, you see our August 25th photo photo that's same area, looking the same
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perspective. We actually do have temporary signals that have been installed. We've actually
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removed the inside two lanes from the northbound and southbound GP, you know, general purpose
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lanes for a good portion of that because we're tearing out and rebuilding two of the three lanes
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and then we'll shift traffic over and build the remaining one. We've also shift the traffic down,
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I guess if you look at the northbound lane with the bottom of the screen, to free up some more work
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So we've got bridge construction, we've got walls at the bridge ends that are underway and things are starting to take shape.
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Another view, this is in front of the Harvey Pentech golf course, or near the YMCA, looking to the north up towards Loyola.
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You can see, see if I got my pointer.
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You can see the drill shaft's going in for the bridge ends, on both sides of Little Walnut Creek.
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up to the north further up the hill. This is along the east right away line. You see the cuts
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in cuts that we're doing in preparation for the northbound GP lanes. We're also starting
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to fill this portion, which will become the northbound main lane. So a lot of activity
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in Sierra Stockpiles for, we've got seal casing and pipe for our crossings as well as some
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going in for a joint trench.
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This photo to the left side is a little bit further north.
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This again, this is the north-bound GP lanes where we're doing the cuts in preparation for
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our northbound main northbound general purpose lane construction. The photo on the right
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is actually the other side of the roadway, so this is the southbound GP lanes where we're constructing
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the drill shafts and the bridge ends again across little one at creek on the other side of the highway.
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further down to the south, this is Colorado River. Again, upper left-hand corner, you can
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see the precondition, this is actually the right and right after and right near our
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groundbreaking ceremony to the right in the same area. We have removed the concrete barrier,
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this on the outside of this bridge to accommodate our widening that we'll be working on.
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In doing that, we've adjusted some concrete traffic barrier and then Stelsson safety protection for our staff out there.
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We're also working on the drill shafts in this area and you can see it in the lower left corner.
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You get steel casing and your steel sticking up.
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Again, this area is a little bit different than the Mopack project we're along the Colorado River.
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We've got sanding material, this very moist steel capes casing helps prevent the hole from collapsing in before we get our concrete and steel installed.
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And with that, I'll turn it over to Steve and then we'll be right back to answering any questions
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you might have.
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Steve, please tell me the Director of Community Relations.
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We have been very busy out in the quarter with pretty much weekly events reaching out to
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different community groups.
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You can see we've had nine stakeholder meetings, five contractor events.
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We've had a couple of ice cream socials and one of the big events of the last couple
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of weeks is, as part of this project, we're looking to close a turnaround that's on SH-71 near the parking spot for safety reasons and it's part of tying down that quarter and so we had an open house to talk about that as we've forward with that element of the project.
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I'm not going to read through all this, but you can again get an idea of all the different things we're doing.
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just last weekend, we were at the HV, we're going to be closing off access to the HV along
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the general purpose lanes in the next couple of days and opening a temporary on ramp.
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And so we've been doing a lot of outreach to that particular shopping center.
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There's a lot of businesses there.
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And so we wanted them to be prepared for that.
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And so we've also been out there on Saturdays talking to people who shop there and sharing
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information about the project.
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A call has been a very, very light.
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Folks don't pay quite as much attention to this project as they do to MoPAC.
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And so we've had a few calls, but they've just generally been informational in nature for the most part.
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And that's pretty much everything I have on the 1A3 South Project.
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Any questions?
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Okay, we'll take number 18 Executive Director's Board.
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Right. Mr. Chairman, one of the five things in board we have is reimbursement of project funds to
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Travis County for the Cologne Road project.
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I don't think we have a quite between Justin and Bill, but we have a final final yet on Cologne Road.
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No, sorry, not just yet. We're working on the hand-off to try this county and at that point we'll know final number
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So right now we are we are prepared to write them a check for what 2.5 million. Let's correct. Okay
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So two and a half million be going back to the county as a result of us be coming in under budget
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on that project and we'll have
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some miscellaneous dollars after we get some of the final vegetation so forth
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There's a transportation commission meeting that's coming September where I have several agreements related to 45.
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I'm sorry, 45 Southwest.
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We're given our relations with the commission and how important they are.
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I'd like to see as many board members as possible be at that meeting.
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And then, you know, the ideas to have a lunch and afterwards to thank those have been
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engaged in that project and others, and hopefully even some of the commission members
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will be able to join us there.
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Ms. Chairman, that's all I have.
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I'm going to move on 19. Okay, I don't remember 19.
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Wire one, Austin, presentation by Jared Fickland, as requested by Board of Members David, arm burst into kill and need.
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Hello. My name is Jared Fickland. We heard about tunnels earlier.
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Now we're going to look up and look at a new technology and a new plan for adding mass transit into Austin, Texas.
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with the capability of being a form of subway, but at a fraction of the cost.
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The techno opportunity here is to take a very popular and congested central road route
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and add capacity overhead that's equal to a hundred buses per hour.
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They'll be running 50 buses north, 50 buses south, every hour without displacing any of the existing capacity on the roadway.
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The technology we're talking about here is called Irving Cable.
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It is high speed detachable gondolas.
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They ride through stations on rails where you can load across a flat and level platform.
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They are fully ADA compliant.
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Cars continuously every few seconds.
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There's no schedule.
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You then drop onto a cable moving about 12 miles per hour.
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And you move from tower to tower over all kinds of obstacles.
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The line we're looking at here is in London, England, and it connects a new development
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a revitalization of a dock area with a transit stop of the tube.
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This is Median Columbia where they have a three-line system carrying a few hundred thousand
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people every day from their suburbs into the central part of the city.
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Basically what we would do here in terms of capacity is bringing about two thousand four hundred
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6,000 people per hour, per direction, no displacement.
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This is a high capacity circulator.
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We could capture around people wanting to use.
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It's continuous and modular.
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The lack of schedule is something we think would both
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amplify car sharing services,
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barc sharing services, as well as lead to a cultural adoption.
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People can ride this without learning a schedule.
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It would make a meaningful impact
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if we get the ridership we think we could.
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It's something that would be available to every person
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lives downtown to south of the river.
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It's a route south versus a route that they use every day.
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And it's an accessible amplifier.
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You can actually bring bikes right on of these things.
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You saw the mobility scooter going on in the video,
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wheelchairs, all of those kind of things.
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This is a route we're talking about.
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South first is an established and familiar route
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that people know how to use and love to use.
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It's not a route we normally think of using and mass transits
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besides blessing because there would be no way to do so, but this technology could capture
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this route from slaughter all the way to Guadalupe and MLK, that's the quarter of campus.
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The route is wide enough and straight enough to accommodate urban cable and it is out of
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the view corridors. So it's imminent domain that we have and could use to add supply.
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If you look about 10-minute trip time or about two miles either side of south first on
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this route, and you look into the census track if I'm 15% of the population of Austin lives
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within 10 minutes of South first. It's already a major North South artery. So what we're
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talking about is let's put 19 stops, so about every half mile, a little more density
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as we get closer to downtown. Let's span these eight miles. Let's carry 6,000 riders per hour
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and 10 persons cars that basically come every few seconds. Let's run it 19 hours a day,
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So we can get from morning compute to post bar hours, no schedule.
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You just walked up and get on the first available car.
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The bottom is the stops and go to that more detail of the questions.
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How would we accomplish this?
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This is what the equipment looks like when deployed in an urban setting.
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I think most of us are familiar with this equipment from ski areas or tourist tracks,
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but it is being deployed in urban centers as mass transit.
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It's engineered differently.
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It's a higher level of engineering.
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This is what this looks like.
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We would use 10 persons cars, we would use a heavier 15 person hanger to hang on the cable.
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We would use that extra capacity to carry power generation and energy storage.
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So we could have climate control first and foremost.
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That's something we will need.
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These ride about every 30 seconds if we're running a 1200 person capacity, it could be a little more from there.
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This is what the inside of a 8 person car looks like.
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That car is in London.
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The towers here, we would use either cantilever or bridge towers, so we can use the 10 foot right
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away on either side, the base of these towers tend to be anywhere from 2 to 5 feet, depending
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on how tall you have to make them, and just bridge over the street, we would still have everything
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to be from the transportation height.
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The stations, probably three kinds of stations we could utilize here.
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One would be local stations, these can also bridge
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on your basic freeway pylons.
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They would have ramps that reach out to the sidewalks
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that we've graded for ADA compliance.
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They would also then double as a pedestrian bridge.
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People could board the north or south lane.
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It's possible there's a couple of places
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where you could build some plaza.
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Plaza's would go have large intersections.
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Above large intersections, you have completely dead space.
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Think of Barton Springs and south first, right there
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by the Palmer Event Center.
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You can capture that all as a plaza actually build in retail another pedestrian bridge and then there's parking
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Like this technology is capable going right through the second floor of or any floor of a parking garage for that manner or right next to it
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There's a lot of area south of Ben White including above the two ninety bus interchange which we could incorporate as a spur line
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Where you could build a cup parking garage and have this incorporated right in. I could imagine text tax scanners right at the front people could park get the scan right for free into work and out
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It's a brand new routing situation.
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Today, you get in your car, you leave when you want,
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you drive on the freeway, you park in a garage,
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you get out, you walk to your office.
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The only culture or change we're asking for in the do is to get up when they want,
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drive to a parking garage, get on the wire,
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get out, and go to their office.
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They leave their laptop.
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It's 18 minutes away back to Ben White.
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They can get it over lunch.
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It's the same try.
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Enter changes.
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It's possible to create interchanges, so this system can be expandable.
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Okay, the interchanges are very interesting and urban cable. You guys are transportation group. You'll appreciate that you can create interchanges
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interchanges with no elevation changes unlike train or bus or subway
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where you have to go up and down to get across the tracks. What you do is you locate your blue wheels and a pattern like you see on the video
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Here people just get off one in walk left north south east west
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so right here
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we're at
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Caesar Chavez and the
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City Hall
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We could put in interchange, and in the future we could run a line out to airport or further, catch a train over there to bring people into downtown.
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We give us other way to the Bracken Ridge track.
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Maybe we could talk those guys and put in a parking glide there, so people don't have to come from the west side all the way into downtown.
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We start catching people to congestion points, bringing them in.
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ridership, where will we get the riders? Well, south first is...
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So enough to get a lot of writers. But we looked at this really aiming at locals, commuters, students, and tourists.
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Okay, and this is how we would find it. Commuters, we looked at trap data from about 10 years ago on south first.
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We looked at the two hours in the morning, two hours of the afternoon. We isolated north and south lanes. We found about 15,000 cars a day, north and southbound.
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If you know Southverse and his characteristics, those are people going to downtown because there's nowhere else to go at that point.
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So we looked at them right there at the bridge, we looked at them at Ben White.
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That was 10 years ago, during rush.
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A mobility service, 5% of residents south of the river already reporting that they commute by means other than cars, 2.5% or bus, 2.5% or other.
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Right now, the average cost of porting downtown is 180 bucks a month.
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If you get people into a $30 monthly pass, they save $150.
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This might move them into a park in fly type situation, much cheaper than they go downtown.
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On this map, you can see the ride times from the south to city hall.
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So when you're a Ben White, you're an 18 minute ride time that's 18 minutes every time.
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It's very consistent because it's continuous operation and it's not going to get held up in traffic.
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If you're all down to slaughter, there's a 40 minute ride time.
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Post it down on the on the flyers on the outside or car times. So you'll see you've got a 27 minute car time around the place
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We have a 30 minute wire time
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At rush 15 minutes
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Where you have 12 minutes 19 minutes 18 minutes. So we're competitive actually with car times at rush and we beat bus times by a factor of two
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transit
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If you put this up, you take over the ridership of the number 10 line.
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You would deploy those buses, probably east, west, feeders to bring people to the line.
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And this could create a shift in patterns.
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We could start bringing more people in and could get those plus times down students.
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The MLK in point is the corner of campus.
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There's some talks about personal rapid transit, other formations.
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But there's two commutes we see.
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A housing commute.
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There's a lot of affordable housing, real affordable off program housing in the south parts of Austin apartment complexes and whatnot, and there's of course the West Campus area, some of some connectors from the students.
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These guys are in Columbia, by the way, and they're not tourists. They're headed out for night on the down.
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Locals and events, all along the line of south first, that's where you find polvos, that's where you find evangelings.
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that's where you find D.K. Susci, where you find two H.E.B.s, where you find four or five
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schools, where you find a lot of districts.
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And in the morning in the night, you live in these neighborhoods you're under siege by
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connect congestion, we can offer them a lot of local micro traits where they can actually
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get to this stuff now and have a 10-minute run to H.E.B. back and not have to worry about
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a con part of it.
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Also, there's a fair amount of ant support.
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If you know the event schedule, you know how often South First gets close off at the bridge,
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And this thing can continue running while the turkey trot was happening.
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It could deliver runners to the race, very things like that.
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So a lot of opportunities that actually carry locals where they want to go.
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And I mentioned the schools, right?
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There's school valve places where we can locate stops right next to schools.
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Tourism.
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Well, visitors are going to want that selfie as they go over the river.
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That's going to happen no matter what, even though this is a purpose-built line.
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But we have a festival-based economy.
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It was just reported in Forbes.
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And basically, what they need is transit, the same way we need transit, right?
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They're going to want to go to the now called Obama's Tortoise tacos on south, first in El Paso.
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But also, they stay in vacation homes in the neighborhoods today along this line.
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There's 300 official licenses with the city.
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I think there's a lot more unofficial licenses in there.
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I think more like 1,000 or more.
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And so those people need to get to ACL.
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they need to get to South by Southwest,
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they need to get to the Rott Rally,
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they need to get to the Formula 1 event,
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they need to get to the teacher's conferences,
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and what all, this line would expand,
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expand that opportunity, South.
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So let's, we did some really high-level heuristics here.
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All right, so we took 5% of the volume of commuters
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from 10 years ago, and we got them to convert
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to writing the wire that we've got 550,000 people annually.
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If we got 5% of what it likely is today,
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You probably could add another 300,000 on that.
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We just don't know what it was today.
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We couldn't find those numbers.
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The number 10 line in 2015,
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report to carry about 1.8 million riders.
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So we capture that.
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Students, I haven't quite figured out the heuristic
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to know how many.
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That would take a deeper study.
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I think there's a 100,000 trips in there or more,
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but I'm not sure exactly.
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Locals.
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If we just said 5% of the residents within 10 minutes,
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ride this thing 10 times a year somewhere.
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That would yield 1,350,000 riders.
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Tourists, if we said, 5% of the 19.8 million annual visitors,
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we currently get that 990,000, and if we took the short-term rentals
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that are along this route and said, OK, half these people
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to a day, six weeks of major festivals a year,
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that's 180,000 tourists rides, which it's possible to price
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at a tourist price.
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give a walk up price of $3, get a $30 pass for locals.
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I would total almost 5 million riders right there in a very conservative.
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That gives us a really good cost per rider.
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The O&M on this equipment.
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It's not too far in parity with bus.
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Cost drivers, savers, and estimates.
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It's a great idea who can pay for it.
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I don't know.
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It might be wine here.
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Driver, savers, and estimates.
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The cost drivers.
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A four-stop-formile system is important to know that this is a linear thing, but not linear
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construction.
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The drivers of costs are the stations, not the distance.
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A four-stop-formile system is only marginally more expensive than a four-stop-one-mile system.
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You're paying for the stops, but you're just putting a tower where you need a tower,
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the towers are not expensive of the stops.
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The cable is not as expensive as the cars, so it's really about the number of stops.
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So the number of stations you have is a big cost driver, the number of cars that you put
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on and that equals capacity and it equals frequency.
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So the number of cars you buy is a big cost driver and it's studied related to capacity
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design elements.
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An engineer friend of mine said, once said, if you ever want to make something really expensive
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hold a design competition, there are ways to drive the cost, we want a good design for
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this thing.
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But that's a cost driver.
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There is such a thing as off the shelf equipment, and then climate control, climate control
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costs more.
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So when you look at systems that are deployed worldwide today, like in La Paz, or in areas
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of Europe, or Median Columbia, or parts of Asia, or going into Macau, these are cultures
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that don't use climate control the way we do in North America.
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And some of them arguably don't need it the way we need it here in Austin.
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So we are going to have to pay for climate control in order to give people on the system
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and to run it safely, and that will drive cost.
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Costs savers.
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The module construction is a big cost saver.
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We don't have to put 55 or 100 million into reinforcing a bridge to carry 60 tons.
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We can cross the river in the freeway, basically for free.
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We just put a tower on each side and fly to cars over.
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We don't have to quiet eminent domain, because we're using the eminent domain above the street in a wire one vision. I think we can do it without fly over that takes deep feasibility study, but there's one corner we might have to clip it's a gas station.
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O&M is very competitive. Basically, you're on a program maintenance service schedule. This is done like airlines, the safety record actually is in parity with airlines. You fixed off before it breaks.
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and then write it. I put routing as a cost-saver up here because the most expensive system you can build is the one that nobody uses.
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And it's all about cost-parider. And if we put this line where people want to go, they will use it.
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Ridership will drop down, drive down the cost-parider.
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What would some ballpark figures look like? Obviously there's been no feasibility study yet.
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And cost can be way high, way low. You guys are not new to this business.
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But if I were to give some heuristics based on industry standards, this is what we would come up with.
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Industry standard, if you're to build pylons and drop a station on top of it,
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it's typically about 13 million in a station. With our 19 stations, we're going to get about
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247 million there. Towering cables typically about a million dollars per mile is 8 million.
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I think in Texas, Austin, Texas with wire one, we're looking at should we build a few
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we have to move, and there's a certain design standard we tend to carry here.
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I just fudge that into a factor of two times, another 300 million.
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Thinking, two parking rods just for 50 million, one above here, one above there, a couple
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hundred million dollar plant, applause isn't 50 million to relocate some electrical lines.
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So without study, basically, we're looking at somewhere around 290 million as a starter
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cost.
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We could eliminate some of the costs for time out 600 million, which is a high-cost.
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Looking at the route that we have, this is going to turn into a very good cost for eight
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miles, 19 stops right in the heart of Austin as a backbone.
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Of course, the feasibility study would need it to really validate these costs and pin them
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down to a much more mannable number.
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I can't stress how many ways there is for these numbers to go up that you all are very
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experienced with that.
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But the really good base numbers, I don't even, just take the industry here at 650 million for surface rail multiply at times eight miles, and that's what we're at.
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So that is the wire one vision. It's a pilot line for using urban cable as a mass transit solution in Austin, Texas.
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I think it'd be really interesting if someone
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when could build this, fund it, give it to Pat
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Metro to operate and really change transit
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in the city, make a meaningful impact.
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Did something the public really is interested in?
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By the way of introduction, I apologize in David.
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Thank you very much for the presentation.
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And I know he was sponsored on the,
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you were cited on the front page of Wall Street Journal
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long ago, as one of those entities, something creative and innovative, and we appreciate the
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time you spent getting prepared for this and being here.
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Thank you.
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You're back.
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But that's not my item.
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It's two board members here.
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Thank you for your presentation.
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It's very impressive.
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I guess one of these potential disruptor kind of industries.
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But obviously there's a long way to go between this presentation and that's going out and hopping on one of these and taking it somewhere.
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But I would like to explore it.
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I like the idea of us expanding our horizons beyond just roads.
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And so I'd like to, I know Mike, I've heard that the city,
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a capital metro may have some interest in exploring this.
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And I'd like to ask you, if the board agrees,
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maybe you take this just to another level and see where it might go, may not go anywhere,
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may go into reality. Yeah, I was just gonna add, I can't hear, I think it's exciting. I think
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we should look at options like this and I, you know, David's right. I think that there's a long
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way to go before we would be talking about a real, you know, actually having a project on the ground,
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But I would want the board support and move forward with at least some initial study and being one of those partners.
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That's come to the table to look at the feasibility of it.
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Yeah, I think I will have something on the next agenda.
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I apologize that this wasn't a discuss and take a pretty action.
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But at the next meeting, we could do that and I could ramp up on some contribution.
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And I wouldn't insist as not the right word, but I would highly recommend that it be the
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Texas A&M Transportation Institute, the conducts of study, I feel like they are objective
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and one step removed from either the city or county or us or whatever, so that they could
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do an objective look at it.
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And they've got some people that have been involved with similar type of stuff in the past,
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So I think it would be wise to make sure they're engaged in the process.
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My biggest concern going on is again, you've got to have city buy and we've talked about
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that.
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We, as an agency, do not have rights to right away inside the city limits.
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That is their right way.
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And for us to be presumptuous and just assume something like this makes sense for them, would
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it's back into a corner, I think it could be very dangerous down the road into what are
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you doing to our streetscape and downtown Austin. So, having said that, I think the city
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has to be engaged, I will make sure they are. And I think the county, even the county doesn't
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have rights to that right away. So, that would be a big issue for me to make sure we're
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copicetic with the city of Austin on something like that. And that they actually come forward
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with a resolution supporting us. Have they done that yet? Do you know? They have not.
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Okay. Pressure is being applied.
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Personally, I would feel more comfortable with the participation
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after that resolution is secure and that we know that the city is okay with that. But that
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and that we've got the bandwidth budget terribly-wise to participate. And Charles said a statement
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question. Well, do you know how much this feasibility study might cost? So if I ability study,
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I believe would be quite reasonable. I think there's a number of her. Yes, that's a proposal out there.
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What that would do is establish there are no drop dead barriers that would prevent this from going into
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place, which is a very logical first step. After that feasibility study is very from a few hundred thousand
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dollars to into one point two one point five million dollars. It depends on the depth and the
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the study you're doing. You could study anyone of components of ridership cost or the engineering
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or you can study them all at once. One advantage here is we could have a very targeted
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route because if we target equipment you can control costs that way as well. So have you made this
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presentation to the following up on my comment? Have you made the presentation to the city council?
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This specific presentation is, this is a first. You guys got the exclusive first look. We have spoken with the city about urban cable before, but directing it directly to a pilot line down south. First, we've been waiting to bring it to them. And I believe they've been waiting to hear it. And at some point, we're all going to get together and talk about it. The county is hard about it, and cap metro is hard about it.
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Well, I just want to reiterate what Mike said.
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I think it's a fabulous idea.
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I think it's interesting, certainly worth exploring,
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but the city has got to take to lead on this.
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So I followed.
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Yes, sir.
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Are there more than any American cities
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that are providing leadership in this kind of technology?
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There is a bit of a waiting game right now
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around who will be the first major city to implement this
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North America. There are a few very famous mass transit cable systems in Roosevelt Island in Portland
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that those are more aerial trams. There are a couple of proposals that are on the cusp.
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There's a proposal in Brooklyn to put in a line to take over capacity when they shut
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down one of their trains for service for four or five years. That one's probably the furthest
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along. It's very similar to our proposal. There are some other tourist proposals out there.
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There are a few proposals that I have looked into that I'm not at liberty to speak about
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in a public forum.
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I'm under non-disclosure agreement.
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So one other comment, Mike, and I totally agree with you.
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I don't think we're anywhere close to talking about, you know, using the cities right of
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way and needing them to agree, but I do think, though, that there's not harm and exploring
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these ideas.
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I don't feel like we need to mandate from the city to do that.
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I think that there are times when the city of Austin takes longer to kind of get things done because of what's on their plate.
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And so if we're talking about participating in some way and a viability study, I would be in favor of moving forward with that because I don't think.
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I think we can do that without being presumptuous in any way with regard to use of the city right away.
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So what I don't want to do is just wait for the city to do something.
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I would like to move forward if we can with participation in a viability study and I would leave that to your judgment with regard to how we participate.
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Either with bodies or money or whatever it may be and I'm not sure the board would need to.
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If you would feel more comfortable with the board specifically instructing you with regard to a specific action, we can do that.
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but otherwise, in that range we're talking about,
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I'd be comfortable with you just making that decision.
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I agree, but it's not way on the city,
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let's try to move this along a little bit.
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And this is just about exploring an idea.
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And if the city for some reason said, absolutely no,
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I think that something we can all discuss,
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as you said, sitting around the table at some point in the future.
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But I feel like there's not a harm in exploring the idea.
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Well, the thing is that we are a mobility authority.
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It's not just pavement.
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So looking at options and ideas,
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there's not heard this agency at all,
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or it just shows an openness to for innovation.
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So I will agree with that.
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So just as a point of it,
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it's a point of order.
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But I mean, my question to decide to fund a viability study
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from funds without the board taking action because it wasn't posted for action, right?
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Well, I think you're asking us to take action, right?
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Oh, by that question, so I think the suggestion has been made, and at the very least,
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I think he can bring it back on the next agenda.
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The vote for it, depending on legal counsel, and how we should proceed with this,
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are certainly the suggestion has been made and to take advantage of that discretion.
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So let's wait to see how we get that answer back on both of those items. That's okay.
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And if I could add one thing, I would prefer we not be the only participant in that viability study,
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even though it's a very small dollar amount.
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But just so that it does not send the signal that we're trying to...
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It's our projects.
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I don't think we're at that point yet.
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Where it would be, and so I would not want to be the only participant
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if we can't avoid being said.
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Mark, may I have any other questions?
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Comments.
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Thank you for your great presentation.
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We appreciate your joiners today.
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Thank you for that.
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You bet.
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Thank you all.
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Thank you for having me.
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Okay.
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Is there anything else to come before the board today?
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You would like to address the board for an intermediate issue?
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Mr. Chairman, I just...
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Just one last comment.
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I don't think anybody else has anything but I do want to say this.
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It was great sadness to say that one of our founding...
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County Commissioner Morrison did pass away this morning, his long, has been expected for
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some time, but that sometimes doesn't make it any easier. But we thank Ron for all his
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past service to the communities and for support for the RMA and for being really truly one
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of the unique and authentic public officials for the entire region. And he played his own
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quiet role in air quality and regional cooperation and he will be he will be missed.
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Well, if you think it appropriate and the board says otherwise a resolution to his family
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might not be in order to sign a good deal.
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All right.
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Any other questions or comments come for the board?
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If not, I adjourn as me.