Sheldon City Council 9/2/26 part 2

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[0:02] Okay, parents. >> All right, we are back in open session.
[0:06] I would like to report that no formal action was taken during closed session.
[0:11] So, then moving on to the next item on our agenda is reports.
[0:16] Uh the zoning code enforcement reports are from Steve Holgren. Those are just
[0:20] for your information only. We are no discussion required on that.
[0:24] » I have a question on that though. >> Okay.
[0:26] » We had a meeting earlier to put a moratorium on the signs.
[0:30] Reports all mention signs that are signs were
[0:35] whatever given. Each month we we approve signs. And I thought we had a moratorium
[0:39] on that. So, I'm a little confused. Certain types of signs, right?
[0:42] » Yes, sir. I can answer that. Um So, the the sign moratorium was for
[0:48] digital and off-premise signage. So,
[0:53] stationary, non-digital, on-premise advertising. So, uh perfect example of
[0:58] that would be Crystal Runck's Thrillers News Studio she just built.
[1:02] We did approve a a sign. That's one of the approved sign permits that you see
[1:05] on there. For her building sign. Uh if you would
[1:08] like a copy of the uh uh
[1:12] resolution that you guys approved, I can certainly email it out to you, but it
[1:15] was for digital and off-premise signage. >> I don't know if that's general or if
[1:21] anything is tied to her building. >> I I I'll I'll can get you the resolution
[1:26] that that you that you approved. I'll send it out to you guys.
[1:31] » Uh question on these reports. Todd, um I had asked to put on the next agenda or
[1:39] two or you know uh
[1:42] having a full report given. Is this what this was
[1:47] fulfilling? >> I guess I misunderstood you. I Steve had
[1:50] been offering monthly reports that we were linking to agendas.
[1:55] And him and I had failed to get that done. So, when you asked, that's what I
[2:00] got. If you want him to come before the council, I certainly can.
[2:03] » Well, the only thing that I would like more information on
[2:07] these reports don't deal with that. And that is is what is where are we at with
[2:13] these enforcement of and new nuisance
[2:17] abatement activity.
[2:20] This is just saying that the activity happened. This is what I did
[2:24] to get the activity going. But, I don't know where it's at. I don't
[2:29] know whether we were successful, we aren't successful. I want to get it I
[2:33] want to get that kind of information. Now, he can do that through this
[2:37] reporting, fine. But, I need that's what I'm looking for.
[2:42] Because people are asking me in my ward what's happening on these situations
[2:48] that they feel are important to be addressed, and I don't even know where
[2:52] we're at with it. You know, I can call Steve each time.
[2:56] Uh but, I would think that Steve could offer some kind of
[3:02] » So, so >> status.
[3:04] » So, if if I'm hearing you correctly, going forward you would like his reports
[3:10] to offer >> the status
[3:13] » address addresses the type of nuisance and whether or not we have successfully
[3:19] abated said nuisance. >> That would be the kind of detail that I
[3:23] would need to answer questions from my constituents in the ward.
[3:31] Okay. >> I can say that as a general rule, his
[3:34] approach is kind of a
[3:37] soft contact of some sort.
[3:41] And then it'll ramp up to formal letters and attempt follow up.
[3:49] And then at some point, if there's not adequate
[3:53] progress as determined by the city, then it goes to should we file some type
[4:00] of legal action. So, there are multiple phases, and depending on
[4:04] how receptive the landowner is, it will impact not the only variable, but will
[4:09] impact the time frame. Because sometimes there'll be like a little bit of
[4:12] progress, what about this? What about this?
[4:15] Sometimes there letters don't get delivered. So,
[4:19] I just tell you, there's multiple steps. >> Letters get returned in the mail.
[4:24] » The easy part about nuisance abatement is recognizing a nuisance and sending a
[4:29] letter. The extremely hard part about nuisance abatement is chasing down
[4:34] landlords, renters, property owners in general, and getting them to comply.
[4:40] Um our compliance
[4:45] rate is not I can guarantee you is not as high as what you would hope it to be.
[4:52] » I've looked into this a little bit a few months ago, and I drove around to
[4:57] a couple other towns, and I looked up their
[5:00] stuff on their website, and I know I in Tucson, they find people.
[5:07] So, grass isn't mowed, $25 fine, or $50 fine, or whatever.
[5:11] So, and what if they just throw those letters in the wastebasket, I think?
[5:15] » And well, we have mowed some, and we have assessed the cost of those mowing
[5:20] to property owners. In review right now, it's in Mike's
[5:23] office for review. The intent is if it's ends up to be something we want to move
[5:28] forward with, it would be adopted by council over the winter.
[5:31] But in in review right now, Peter something similar to what you're talking
[5:36] about when it comes to grass and weed nuisance abatement.
[5:42] So, >> I hope so, because I don't think we have
[5:45] any teeth the way it is. >> Well, we
[5:47] we do. It's just I think that the >> I'd rather have it not take three months
[5:51] though. >> time in which it takes to go through the
[5:55] current required processes on things like grass which happens to
[5:59] grow in the summer. >> Yeah, correct.
[6:02] And my request is not coming from a position that I don't think that things
[6:07] are going right. It's just from a position that I don't have access to the
[6:12] information
[6:15] when I need to to address a constituent. So
[6:19] » I'll pick up highway old 60 restaurant.
[6:24] You know, we've had the track they went and they cut the weeds down and then I
[6:29] called Todd and said that thing's gotten terrible again. He said I'll give the
[6:32] guy a call again. We don't need a city manager or city manager pro tem or
[6:37] whatever having to call on weeds. We need to figure out a system that it gets
[6:41] pushed way down and we could just execute. And so that's
[6:45] where where And we've got celebration days this weekend and and I'm sorry
[6:49] parts of this town this town looks like heck
[6:52] with the weeds that aren't getting cut and and we have no teeth on that either.
[6:55] So hopefully over the winter or before um we get some things on there that we
[7:00] can delegate that way below Utah and decide whether or not we'll get it
[7:03] enforced. a weed call.
[7:08] » Fair enough. >> And well, I'll ask you to modify his
[7:12] reports. That shouldn't be It shouldn't be too big of a deal.
[7:16] They're just going to get substantially longer, but that's okay.
[7:20] » Appreciate it. Thank you. >> Yep.
[7:22] » Anything else on zoning and code enforcement?
[7:27] All right, moving on then to comments.
[7:31] Anything from you Todd further? >> Uh just a reminder highway 18 is closed.
[7:35] I'm sure everybody loves that. Uh initially I was told that closure would
[7:39] end on Friday 9/4. It is now looking like that that closure will end in the
[7:45] morning hours of Saturday night five. So,
[7:48] it doesn't look like they're going to get the asphalt laid
[7:51] until late on Friday requiring the closure to last through Friday
[7:55] through the overnight hours. And then just a reminder as our culvert project
[8:00] uh continues, we are anticipating a closure around
[8:04] 9/14 um for approximately 1 month in the same
[8:08] location of Highway 18. We'll put stuff out on our social media
[8:12] accounts and what like we did before, but that one will be
[8:15] lengthy. >> Same detour?
[8:18] » Yes. >> Okay.
[8:20] Uh what just different local access availability. Yeah.
[8:26] » All right, nothing further. >> And, anything?
[8:28] » No, thank you. >> Micah?
[8:30] » No, thank you. >> All right.
[8:32] Council to my left. >> Okay.
[8:35] » Nothing. >> To my right?
[8:36] » Yeah, I have a couple of things, a few things actually. Um so, this is simply
[8:41] for information to consider for next meeting and to be added to next meeting
[8:46] agenda. Um I had a meeting with the Children's
[8:48] World board and they are asking about the buy-down funding that
[8:54] we have we set aside the funds for that. And so, if anybody has
[8:59] any thoughts or opinions on what that looks like,
[9:02] I'd really like to know what your thoughts and opinions are so that we can
[9:06] work on getting that um funding available for them.
[9:09] Um and then at our last SEDC board meeting, they
[9:15] discussed goal planning and strategic planning. Um they are working towards
[9:20] getting that arranged and wondered if the city wanted to
[9:24] join them in that like we've done in the past. So, just something to consider.
[9:29] Um and then the last thing that I have is if you haven't checked out the mural
[9:33] project on the corner
[9:35] » it >> So, there's a new mural downtown and it
[9:39] looks really cool. So. >> It It looks really cool.
[9:41] » So, with the Children's World, do you have a
[9:44] the same model as last year or do you have a new model?
[9:47] » Um I'm open to anything that anybody has to discuss on that. We uh our
[9:54] what we had decided was we were not going to go with the same model and
[9:56] that's why we agreed on the funding as long as we
[9:59] didn't go with that. Um >> So, does Children's World have model
[10:04] that they want to go with? >> No, they're leaving that to the
[10:07] discretion of the city because because they it's our funds and so they want us
[10:14] to be able to say how we want to use it. So.
[10:19] » I I think we can give them some feedback. I don't think we can give them
[10:23] an approved, quote unquote, uh unless I'm unless I'm mistaken, but I
[10:31] Oh, who do I We direct our comments to you then?
[10:33] » Yep. >> Okay. Thank you.
[10:37] This was one of my comments, but while we're on the subject, I have a thank you
[10:40] here from Chris and Jessica Van Otterloo to the city of Sheldon.
[10:44] We wanted to say thank you as we were one of the families that was able to
[10:47] take advantage of the pilot program at Children's World.
[10:51] We are so lucky to have such a well-run daycare in Sheldon to send our son to.
[10:55] We are grateful for the support the city provided to help offset some of the cost
[10:59] with the first year of daycare. Thank you again for the assistance and
[11:02] continued support the city provides to Children's World.
[11:07] So, it is appreciated. My turn?
[11:11] » Your turn. >> I'd ask that in the next agenda we
[11:14] include some discussion on if we're going to pay Brad's legal bill
[11:18] and if we do, how we would go about paying that. It's been
[11:22] in the back burner long enough we need to to bring it to front. I get asked by
[11:26] people in the community about it, so I just like to be
[11:28] done. And also, as a councilman, I want to know what kind of protection I have
[11:33] if I find myself in a situation where I feel I can need legal counsel
[11:37] as a councilman.
[11:41] » Okay. And that
[11:44] That's all? >> Yeah.
[11:45] » All right. >> Uh the only other thing I wanted to
[11:48] comment on was uh we have a person in our midst who is a grandma
[11:53] once again. Congratulations, Chantel.
[11:55] » Thank you. >> You're not old enough to be a grandma.
[11:59] » I am. >> How did that work?
[12:02] » I believe I'm a grandma of the whole town. I'm a grandma of the whole
[12:04] » Oh, I didn't hear about that one. Congratulations to you as well.
[12:07] » Thank you. >> First one?
[12:09] » First one. >> Well, congratulations to both of you.
[12:12] » Thank you. >> Yeah. Hope you got a grandchild fund.
[12:17] That was one thing we didn't plan for. >> All right.
[12:21] » Babies everywhere. >> Yeah.
[12:23] » I had nothing to do with it. >> Make a motion.
[12:25] » With that >> Make a motion.
[12:26] » Okay, we have a motion. Support?
[12:29] » I'll support. >> Roll call, please.
[12:31] » Yes. >> Hi.
[12:32] » Eggers. >> Hi.
[12:33] » Campbell. >> Hi.
[12:34] » O'Shaughnessy. >> Hi.
[12:35] » Bikers. >> Hi.
[12:36] » Thank you.