Smyth County Board of Supervisors Meeting 12.08.22

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[0:01] happens
[0:14] my speakers
[0:38] thank you
[0:57] in the lane
[1:07] foreign
[1:16] supervisor meeting the order and to
[1:19] start things off tonight we'll have the
[1:20] pledge of allegiancement by Gabe Johnson
[1:22] uh an invocation to be provided by a
[1:25] local
[1:26] director of ministry at the uh
[1:31] you better get this right I don't know
[1:32] I'll mess it up uh Fulton
[1:37] editor
[1:41] yeah First United Methodist Church I
[1:43] always get that messed up Alan Johnson
[1:45] please stand for both of them
[1:49] you raise your right hand
[1:53] of the United States of America and to
[1:56] the Republic for which it stands one
[1:59] nation another God indivisible with
[2:02] liberty and justice for all
[2:10] right let's pray
[2:11] you Lord we thank you for today and
[2:13] thank you for this group that represent
[2:16] us in the county Lord I pray that you
[2:18] would provide your wisdom and guidance
[2:20] and lead them as they make decisions to
[2:22] lead and guide us Lord for the good of
[2:25] all the people in Smith County and For
[2:27] Your Glory it's in Jesus name amen amen
[2:31] I want to thank both you gentlemen for
[2:33] coming being with us tonight
[2:36] we appreciate it
[2:37] thank you
[2:43] all right the second thing on there is
[2:45] the amendments to agenda I know don't do
[2:47] not know of any amendments yes sir yes
[2:49] sir so unless someone speaks up we're
[2:51] going to move right on
[2:52] presentations
[2:55] uh I told you we'd get to you quick the
[2:58] floor is yours
[3:02] thank you all can you hear me okay or do
[3:04] I need them
[3:06] I've already been down a little bit
[3:07] better online
[3:09] sorry thank you
[3:11] um my name is Emily Byers I'm the
[3:13] partner in charge on your audit
[3:15] engagement I appreciate the opportunity
[3:16] to present to you all tonight
[3:19] um for those of you mostly familiar
[3:22] faces I think that have had the pleasure
[3:23] or perhaps the pain of sitting through
[3:25] this presentation before I thought we'd
[3:27] do things just a little bit differently
[3:28] we did bring or I did bring a hard copy
[3:32] of the audit reports with us um through
[3:35] over behind Lisa so you can grab a hard
[3:37] copy after the presentation or after the
[3:39] meeting tonight I think you already have
[3:41] an electronic copy but I thought we
[3:43] would just walk through the smaller
[3:44] presentation file that I handed out
[3:46] before the meeting started
[3:49] so we'll jump straight to page two of
[3:52] the presentation file
[3:54] this essentially just goes over the
[3:56] three different types of Auditors
[3:57] reports that are included in your
[3:59] financial statements the first report is
[4:01] the independent Auditor's report this is
[4:04] essentially where we State whether we
[4:06] think the numbers is presented are
[4:07] materially correct in accordance with
[4:09] generally accepted accounting principles
[4:11] if you guys have a clean and modified
[4:13] opinion that just means that we think
[4:15] that the numbers as shown in the report
[4:16] and all the related disclosures are in
[4:18] fact materially correct in accordance
[4:21] with all of the applicable standards
[4:23] the next type of Auditor's report
[4:25] relates to compliance and other matters
[4:27] this is what I usually call the yellow
[4:29] book report here we take a look at
[4:31] internal controls and we let you know if
[4:33] there are any significant deficiencies
[4:35] or material weaknesses we also take a
[4:38] look at compliance related matters that
[4:39] the auditor of Public Accounts for
[4:41] Virginia tells us that we're required to
[4:43] test to make sure that you're compliant
[4:45] with the code of Virginia we had no
[4:48] material compliance related matters as
[4:50] part of our procedures we did have audit
[4:53] adjustments that were proposed as part
[4:55] of our procedures to make sure that the
[4:57] numbers were in accordance with
[4:58] accounting principles so that is
[5:01] included in your report that's not an
[5:03] uncommon finding it's been in the report
[5:04] for a couple of years now I think
[5:07] um the standards of the standards have
[5:09] gotten very complex your reporting time
[5:12] frame is limited meet the deadline of
[5:14] December 15th so it's not really an
[5:17] audit concern per se but we are required
[5:19] to include it in the report
[5:22] um the last type of Auditor's report
[5:24] that's included relates to uniform
[5:26] guidance
[5:27] because you receive and expend over 750
[5:30] 000 in federal funds every year you're
[5:33] required to undergo a single audit
[5:35] um so here's sort of like the yellow
[5:37] book report we take a look at internal
[5:38] control related to those Federal
[5:40] programs and then compliance related
[5:42] items so you guys have a clean
[5:44] unmodified opinion related to uniform
[5:47] guidance that just means we didn't have
[5:48] any non-compliance or any internal
[5:50] control related matters for the federal
[5:52] programs that were tested
[5:55] on page three is a general fund summary
[5:59] this will match exhibit five of your
[6:01] report once you get a hard copy or the
[6:03] electronic copy if you've reviewed it
[6:05] essentially this is the income statement
[6:07] for the general fund on a modified basis
[6:10] of accounting it's scheduled out for the
[6:12] last five years so that you can see how
[6:14] revenues or expenditures have either
[6:16] grown or declined you've got an
[6:18] annualized compounded growth rate off to
[6:21] the side that's meant to smooth the
[6:23] effects of any outlying transactions
[6:25] that occur in any given year so that you
[6:27] can see incrementally how those numbers
[6:29] have grown or declined
[6:32] um I'll try not to get too much into the
[6:34] numbers I know that I could probably
[6:35] talk about them for hours but nobody
[6:37] really wants to listen to that I'm sure
[6:39] um so I just thought I would point out a
[6:41] few things to you
[6:42] um you will see that intergovernmental
[6:44] revenues went up pretty significantly in
[6:46] 22 from 2018 but it was down from 2021
[6:50] that's the cares and arpa funding last
[6:52] year you had five million of cares funds
[6:55] that you received and expended in 22 you
[6:57] had 1.5 million of arpa funds I expect
[7:00] that that number will go up as you
[7:01] continue to utilize the arpa funds that
[7:03] are that you've received
[7:07] um the only other thing that I really
[7:09] wanted to talk about on this page is
[7:11] down towards the bottom with the yellow
[7:13] highlight and the blue Highlight
[7:15] we've calculated your reserve balances
[7:17] you probably remember that when we look
[7:19] at your reserves we look at your
[7:21] unassigned fund balance and then your
[7:22] cash balances as it relates to
[7:25] expenditures we take the general fund
[7:27] expenditures plus the school fund
[7:28] expenditures take out the transfer in
[7:31] between so that it doesn't get
[7:32] duplicated and then you've got your
[7:34] reserve balances down there at the
[7:35] bottom gfoa recommends that you have two
[7:38] months of reserves on hand that's about
[7:41] 16 17 percent so you can see that you're
[7:44] just over those Reserve balances and you
[7:47] can also see which I was pretty
[7:49] pleasantly surprised that over the last
[7:51] five years those balances have grown
[7:53] incrementally every year that's what we
[7:56] like to see I tend to be risk-averse so
[7:59] I would prefer that those balances
[8:00] continue to grow just a little bit more
[8:02] but um you know I like to see that
[8:04] they're growing step by step every year
[8:08] um what can help lead to that you'll
[8:09] notice your revenues are slightly
[8:11] outpacing your exposure so that's
[8:13] helping to incrementally grow that fund
[8:15] balance every year
[8:17] um one thing I wanted to mention on this
[8:20] page if you try to tie your cash and
[8:22] investment balance to the report itself
[8:24] it's not going to tie that's because in
[8:27] this presentation I took out the
[8:29] unearned arpa funds that you've received
[8:31] but haven't extended yet because that
[8:33] kind of inflates your cash balances so
[8:36] they don't match but that is intentional
[8:38] and you can see that your cash balances
[8:40] and your unassigned fund balance as a
[8:42] percent of expenditures are kind of
[8:44] growing hand in hand and trending
[8:46] together just like we would expect
[8:49] the next couple of pages are just parts
[8:53] of your revenues and your expenditures
[8:55] from 2018 compared to 2022. I won't talk
[8:59] about these too much I just think it's
[9:00] interesting to see that they don't
[9:02] really change very much over the course
[9:04] of the years so as you work on trying to
[9:06] generate more revenues or potentially
[9:09] cut expenditures if you have to do that
[9:11] at some point you can see where you
[9:13] generate the most Revenue which pieces
[9:15] of the pie you have control over and
[9:17] then you can see where you spend most of
[9:19] your money
[9:21] on page six is a summary of long-term
[9:25] obligations for the governmental
[9:28] activities so the general fund and the
[9:30] other governmental activities that you
[9:31] all report
[9:33] um the component Unit School Board and
[9:34] then the water and sewer fund
[9:38] here we have actual debt issuances along
[9:41] with net pension and oped liabilities
[9:44] compensated absences and things like
[9:46] that a couple of things that I think
[9:49] people have really noticed this year you
[9:51] can see that your net pension liability
[9:53] dropped significantly it actually went
[9:56] to an asset this year that's solely a
[9:59] function of the fact that vrs had a
[10:01] really good year on their investments in
[10:04] 2021 so the market was down in 2020 2021
[10:08] it came back up so your net balance of
[10:11] your pension went down significantly if
[10:14] you look at your financial statements
[10:16] though that amount is offset with a dirt
[10:18] outflow and a deferred inflow and so
[10:20] there's really not much of a net impact
[10:22] on net position your outflows and
[10:24] inflows are amortized in over four years
[10:27] to offset those large fluctuations when
[10:30] there are swings in the market so that
[10:32] it doesn't fall all the way to net
[10:33] position people see that and either get
[10:36] really excited or really scared about it um so I just wanted to mention that
[10:40] otherwise you had a debt issuance in
[10:43] your general fund of 2.6 million for
[10:45] some capital projects I think the
[10:47] transfer station if I remember correctly
[10:49] and otherwise it was just routine debt
[10:52] payments um from there
[10:55] the next couple of pages are required
[10:57] communication with governance letter you
[10:59] guys have a pretty standard boilerplate
[11:01] letter that's what you want nothing of
[11:04] significance to really go over the
[11:06] school board did Implement gassy 87
[11:09] related to leases leases for the county
[11:11] were evaluated but were determined to
[11:13] not be material and therefore they were
[11:15] not reported we do have a management
[11:18] comment a couple Pages back that we
[11:21] recommend or are recommending to all
[11:23] localities or all governmental entities
[11:25] really to evaluate your capitalization
[11:28] thresholds particularly for leased
[11:30] assets a lot of places are implementing
[11:33] a higher threshold for leased assets
[11:34] because they are so much more cumbersome
[11:36] to record in your books and I do have an
[11:39] example that I can provide if you all
[11:41] are interested
[11:43] otherwise nothing really to mention or
[11:46] note that we haven't already discussed
[11:49] the next few pages are the proposed
[11:51] journal entries I won't go over those
[11:53] but those are there for your
[11:54] informational purposes if you wanted to
[11:56] take a look at them
[11:58] same on page 17 or the management
[12:01] recommendations or the audit
[12:03] recommendations as the part of the
[12:05] procedures that we performed I don't
[12:08] typically go over these but they're here
[12:10] so that you all have them and you're
[12:11] aware of any audit recommendations that
[12:13] we had
[12:14] and then the last few pages are the
[12:17] upcoming gassy standards it seems like
[12:20] every year we've got three or four new
[12:21] Gatsby's that need to be evaluated so
[12:23] that we can implement or determine if
[12:26] their material to be implemented so this
[12:28] is just to get you guys out in front of
[12:30] that so that you're aware of the
[12:31] upcoming standards
[12:33] if anybody has any questions I'd be
[12:35] happy to try to answer them but that was
[12:37] all that I had to go over with you all
[12:39] too
[12:44] oh I did want to mention as you're
[12:45] reviewing the reports or the
[12:48] presentation file closer if you've got
[12:49] any questions my contact information's
[12:51] on the front so you're always welcome to
[12:53] email or call too I know you haven't
[12:55] really had time to review the report or
[12:58] the presentation in debt
[13:00] thank you I have a quick question
[13:03] on the page 17. I've got the school
[13:07] board recommendations the cafeteria
[13:09] account you indicate that the
[13:11] centralized account should be maintained
[13:12] in the treasurer's office
[13:14] one of the reasons why they want to
[13:16] maintain that in the middle schools is
[13:18] so they can pay the bills on time so to
[13:20] speak is that going to create a lot of
[13:22] problem trying to implement that but is
[13:24] it going to be worth the bite to do that um to be honest I'm
[13:29] not sure what the rationale behind that
[13:30] was it was my understanding that it was
[13:32] because all of the schools at one point
[13:33] had their own not all of the schools had
[13:36] their own cafeteria but like centrally
[13:37] within each location they had their own
[13:40] and then it all got brought into one and
[13:42] it's our understanding that if they're
[13:44] centralized like that it should be with
[13:46] the treasurer I can't imagine that there
[13:48] would be
[13:49] um a delay in paying the bills I mean as
[13:51] far as I'm aware the school board itself
[13:53] doesn't have an issue with paying the
[13:55] bills in a timely manner um but I'm not
[13:59] sure if that I'm not involved in the
[14:02] day-to-day so I don't know
[14:04] yeah yeah
[14:06] I think that is um I've talked to the
[14:08] school board about it I don't know that
[14:09] we've spoken about it but um it's almost
[14:11] seems like it's one of those things that
[14:13] will agree to disagree on that we feel
[14:14] like it should be with the treasurer but
[14:16] the school board
[14:17] I agree with the school yeah yeah
[14:21] because it's it's important we pay our
[14:23] bills on things like that on time oh
[14:25] yeah we've been through that over the
[14:27] years
[14:28] I just think it's you know we're not
[14:30] dealing millions of dollars out of it
[14:31] but we are saving a lot of interest yeah sure yeah I just while you were
[14:37] here in front of me yeah
[14:39] it's a little bit of a catch-22 right
[14:42] because if you did move it and you paid
[14:43] your bills late I'd probably be here
[14:44] telling you next year that you paid your
[14:45] bills late yeah
[14:48] any other questions
[14:51] thank you thank you all I appreciate it
[14:54] Happy Holidays thank you
[15:12] yeah what you're all here for the public
[15:14] hearings
[15:16] uh first the public hearing is amendment
[15:18] to their musical entertainment ordinance
[15:21] do you want me to read the whole notice
[15:23] or can we do we want to lay the reading
[15:26] the notice
[15:29] the redesign we may waive the rules I'll
[15:33] go ahead and read we did advertise the
[15:35] first four hearings together so I'll
[15:36] read all four together if that's okay
[15:38] and then we can do the hearings notice
[15:40] the public hearings in compliance with
[15:42] code of Virginia 1950 and amendments
[15:43] there too the Smith County Board of
[15:45] Supervisors will conduct multiple public
[15:46] hearings to consider amendments to the
[15:48] Smith County code of ordinances as
[15:50] described below the Smith divorce
[15:52] supervisors shall hear comments from
[15:54] citizens concerning these amendments to
[15:55] the Smith County code of ordinances and
[15:57] the adoption of a new section or
[15:58] ordinance the proposed noise orders
[16:00] number one amendments to chapter five
[16:03] article 3 the musical or entertainment
[16:05] Festival sections to consider proposed
[16:07] amendments to this section to allow an
[16:09] administrative process to approve
[16:11] applications without requiring a public
[16:12] hearing
[16:13] number two amendments to chapter 20
[16:15] article 3 the New Sensations to consider
[16:17] amendments to those sections to allow
[16:19] the administrative process for staff to
[16:21] notify Property Owners of a complaint
[16:22] being filed prior to the requesting a
[16:25] public hearing to declare the property
[16:26] of public nuisance
[16:28] number three Amendment to the Smith
[16:29] County Water and Sewer fees to include
[16:31] collecting a deposit of 100 per service
[16:34] connection for services within the Smith
[16:35] County water and sewer systems this
[16:37] amendment in public hearing is in
[16:39] accordance with Virginia code 15.2-21
[16:42] 19 and number four to consider adopting
[16:45] a noise ordinance to be included in the
[16:46] Smith County code of ordinances
[16:48] the public hearings shall be held on
[16:51] Thursday December 8th at 2022 beginning
[16:53] at 5 PM or as soon thereafter as may be
[16:55] heard in the boardroom of the Smith
[16:56] County office building 121 Bagley Circle
[16:59] Marion Virginia to receive comments on
[17:01] the above described amendments and noise
[17:02] ordinance
[17:03] all interested persons May Express their
[17:05] views by emailing P Harvey
[17:07] smithcounty.org prior to the schedule of
[17:09] public hearing written comments may also
[17:10] be mailed or delivered to the County
[17:12] Administrator at 121 backlit Circle
[17:14] Suite 100 Marion Virginia 24354 or by
[17:17] fax to
[17:19] 276-783-9314 all emails written comments
[17:22] and faxes must be received by 2 pm on
[17:24] Thursday December 8th 2022. a copy of
[17:27] each proposed amendments and the
[17:29] proposed noise ordinance being
[17:30] considered is on file with the county
[17:31] administrator's office located 121
[17:33] Baylor Circle Marion Virginia or online
[17:35] it's with
[17:37] www.smithkenny.org public review
[17:40] in compliance with provisions of the
[17:42] Americans with Disabilities acts but a
[17:44] person's requiring special assistance to
[17:46] attend and participate in this public
[17:47] hearing should contact clay Williams Ada
[17:50] coordinator at
[17:51] 276-706-8315 at least 24 hours prior to
[17:54] the public hearing by order of the Smith
[17:56] County Board of supervisor Sean County
[17:57] mystery
[18:00] thank you now you want to regroup
[18:10] rules for public hearings
[18:12] in instances in which persons address
[18:14] the board through the chairperson
[18:16] without having first been allotted
[18:19] specific time on the agenda they shall
[18:21] limit the remarks as follows a person
[18:24] speaking
[18:25] for him or herself or him or immediate
[18:28] neighborhood three minutes a person
[18:30] speaking for organization whose
[18:32] membership is representative of entire
[18:33] District Five Minutes person speaking
[18:36] for an organization whose membership is
[18:37] representative of the entire County ten
[18:39] minutes unless approved by a majority
[18:41] voters the board no action shall be
[18:43] taken at the board by the board
[18:44] following a public hearing and the issue
[18:46] shall be continued until the next
[18:47] regular meeting
[18:50] thank you
[18:51] all right we're going to start now with
[18:54] the
[18:55] public hearing on the musical
[18:58] entertainment Festival
[19:02] Mr Williams sure so is it quick
[19:06] summary of this proposal
[19:08] um for years we've had the music and
[19:10] Festival ordinance and it's required all
[19:12] applicants to come in and file an
[19:14] application and we set up the public
[19:15] hearing oftentimes with very little
[19:18] Fanfare very little concern
[19:21] um and so the idea with this proposed
[19:23] amendment was to um to make an
[19:25] Administration administrative approval
[19:27] process by which someone could come in
[19:29] apply we would send letters to all the
[19:32] adjoining property owners if there are
[19:34] no concerns then we would approve it
[19:36] um administratively if there are
[19:38] concerns then that doesn't necessarily
[19:40] deny the application that just then sets
[19:43] the rest of the ordinance in motion and
[19:45] we would set up a public hearing with
[19:46] the board and let the board ultimately
[19:48] vote
[19:49] so that's the goal of this proposed
[19:51] amendment
[19:52] did anyone sign up to speak no sorry
[19:55] anyone here wishing to speak on this
[19:58] particular
[19:59] public hearing
[20:02] I'll close that part up we'll move on
[20:04] now to the uh
[20:06] this news appointments
[20:10] so this proposal is a result of
[20:13] basically
[20:14] the protocol that we've historically
[20:17] practiced not necessarily what the
[20:18] ordinance says if you read the nuisance
[20:20] ordinance literally every time we
[20:23] receive a nuisance complaint we're
[20:25] supposed to set up a public Hearing in
[20:26] front of the board and oftentimes a lot
[20:29] of these can be handled with a simple
[20:31] letter uh to the property owner and so
[20:33] we're just asking that the nuisance and
[20:35] we've done that historically if we get a
[20:37] complaint I will send a letter to the
[20:38] folks and oftentimes they'll step up and
[20:41] they'll they'll take care of the
[20:42] situation so not necessarily needing to
[20:45] evolve to you know bring the board into
[20:48] it in every single case we thought that
[20:50] we would suggest amending the ordinance
[20:51] to allow for us to at least send that
[20:53] initial letter if we don't get a
[20:55] response or they just refuse to comply
[20:57] then we follow the standard protocol we
[21:00] set up a public hearing like we'll have
[21:01] for two properties in just a minute
[21:04] so that's the proposal for the for the
[21:06] change to the nuisance organs
[21:09] all righty did anyone sign on speak on
[21:11] this one
[21:13] anyone wishing to speak on this audience
[21:17] hearing none I'll close the public here
[21:19] you know
[21:20] now it's on this
[21:23] we've got one more I think Water and
[21:25] Sewer fees
[21:27] okay
[21:29] go ahead so this public hearing is
[21:32] considered
[21:33] um amending uh basically the the process
[21:35] with water and sewer connections
[21:37] currently we require all land owners to
[21:40] put water and sewer Connections in their
[21:42] name and you all
[21:45] got a glimpse of this a month ago when
[21:48] we had the folks over in Saltville that
[21:49] were unable to get a water service and
[21:52] so this proposed change would fix that
[21:53] situation it would allow anyone that
[21:55] wants to to basically you know get
[21:57] public water or sewer the ability to
[21:59] come in and apply for service
[22:02] the other change would be that we now
[22:04] require deposit
[22:06] um so kind of following in line with
[22:07] most public utility companies where you
[22:09] pay a deposit you don't pay your bill
[22:10] then your deposit offsets that and and
[22:13] we go through that process
[22:16] 100 it's a 100 deposit yes
[22:19] is the proposal and I don't think anyone
[22:22] signed up to speak but I did receive one
[22:24] letter
[22:25] um and I promised the the gentleman that
[22:27] I would read that uh here tonight at the
[22:29] hearing it's just the board of
[22:30] supervisor
[22:32] 121 Bagley Circle Marion Virginia to
[22:35] whom it may concern I recently learned
[22:37] that Smith County is considering an
[22:38] update to their water billing system as
[22:40] an owner of a mobile home park the
[22:42] current Billing System is not working
[22:43] the billing system for my property is
[22:45] set up where each tenant is on their own
[22:47] meter but yet I am responsible for the
[22:49] bill the system is not working and I
[22:51] support a revision of the system so the
[22:54] tenant is responsible the current system
[22:55] is hard to manage with constant problems
[22:57] the bill is sent to the owner of the
[22:59] property rather than the tenant
[23:00] occupying the unit if there is an error
[23:03] or leak it makes more sense for the
[23:05] actual customer of the utility to
[23:06] receive the bill this is more consistent
[23:08] with standard billing practices of other
[23:10] utilities internet providers and billing
[23:12] in general as an owner of mobile home
[23:14] parks in other states the more
[23:16] traditional system of tenant
[23:17] responsibility for their own bill works
[23:19] much better respectfully Roger Wilson
[23:22] senior owner of the saltwell mobile home
[23:24] park
[23:26] and that's all received in regards to
[23:28] this matter
[23:29] anyone president want to speak on this
[23:31] issue
[23:34] here you know I'll close that public
[23:36] hearing now we'll get into the
[23:39] okay proposed noise ordinance as all of
[23:42] you recall we once had a noise ordinance
[23:44] on the books uh it was deemed on
[23:46] enforceable and and you all voted to
[23:48] repeal it earlier this year that has
[23:50] been brought back up with this proposed
[23:52] amendment
[23:54] um in short The Proposal is to adopt a
[23:57] plainly audible language uh as opposed
[23:59] to to setting a specific limit and
[24:01] requiring decimal meters and training
[24:03] and that protocol
[24:06] um and hopefully you've all had a chance
[24:08] to rate it you see what activities are
[24:11] prohibited
[24:13] um typically during the night hours so
[24:15] there's a Time range that applies here
[24:16] and then the goal is to to basically
[24:18] prohibit these sounds what's spelled out
[24:20] in the ordinance from crossing the
[24:22] property line there's also a number of exemptions that was a popular
[24:27] topic during uh during the committee
[24:29] meeting and then some of the calls that
[24:31] we've gotten since then so I would
[24:33] encourage you to read the exemptions and
[24:35] see what activities are exempt from the
[24:37] noise ordinance
[24:38] if you have any specific questions I'll
[24:40] be happy to try to answer those
[24:44] and I do believe there's two folks that
[24:46] signed up to speak on this one thank you
[24:49] all righty uh Mr Davis David Fulton
[24:55] unfortunately state your name and
[24:56] address for the record
[25:02] name is David Fulton I live in Marion
[25:06] I understand about the 11 to 7 time
[25:10] frame at night but my concern is doing
[25:14] the day when you pull up to a traffic
[25:16] light
[25:17] the vehicle next to you the exhaust is
[25:20] so loud you cannot carry on a
[25:22] confirmation with
[25:23] the person in the vehicle with you or
[25:26] the music is Extremely Loud
[25:30] that's my only control
[25:34] all right thank you
[25:37] Mr go Copenhagen
[25:47] [Music]
[25:49] thank you Mr Atkinson those members of
[25:53] the board I haven't had a chance to look
[25:55] through the uh exemptions to that and it
[25:59] looks like it may be
[26:00] already there I'm a farm owner and
[26:04] sometimes we have to operate equipment
[26:06] at times necessary to accomplish
[26:10] emergency repairs or and or weather
[26:14] considerations I don't have any
[26:16] equipment been modified in any way to
[26:18] make any excessive noise personally I
[26:21] have
[26:23] applaud you for trying to come up with
[26:25] an ordinance to hold the noise down I'll
[26:27] forward that just to also understand
[26:31] that we're just going to make sure that
[26:34] there's a I know there's a code on the
[26:37] book for Virginia the right to farm so
[26:40] just
[26:41] not to hamper you in any fashion or way
[26:44] on what you're trying to accomplish but
[26:46] to understand that I had all my
[26:49] equipment out one Christmas Day
[26:52] repairing the fence because somebody ran
[26:54] through it on Christmas Eve and so I
[26:56] spent my Christmas repair and fence with
[26:58] my tractors and equipment necessary to
[27:00] do the job so that's just to call it to
[27:05] your attention that's all
[27:06] thank you
[27:08] don't worry also tell you that's in an
[27:10] exempt exceptions number 12. this is
[27:13] agricultural activities and I would
[27:15] think that would include all those
[27:16] things
[27:18] I have not had a chance to read it but I
[27:20] saw agriculture but I didn't get a
[27:22] chance to read it
[27:25] thank you
[27:27] actually
[27:28] and actually in the uh
[27:30] number 11 before that it talks about the
[27:33] uh operation noise between 11AM 11 pm
[27:36] and 7 A.M and said this subsection shall
[27:39] not apply to any Bonafide agriculture
[27:40] activity
[27:42] so one place or other we hope we got it
[27:44] covered we're trying it just didn't want
[27:46] to get overlooked we're trying to you
[27:48] know just just because you know we have
[27:51] to run sometimes when we don't we don't
[27:53] particularly want to be out there either
[27:55] we never fix fence when it's pretty it's
[27:57] always I see cold rainy windy that's
[28:00] where they go through our fancy thank
[28:02] you Joe thank you
[28:06] anyone else wishing to speak on this
[28:08] ordinance
[28:11] as we consider these things we're trying
[28:13] to be reasonable with what we're doing
[28:14] because you got people on both sides you
[28:17] know some want some don't want it and
[28:19] we're trying to be reasonable and make
[28:20] it a good place to live but also a good
[28:22] place to do business and work so you
[28:24] know and quite honestly praying for us
[28:26] as we decide on these things because
[28:27] it's not an easy decision
[28:29] it seems easy to someone walks in with
[28:32] an exception in what do you do so
[28:34] hopefully we've covered most of it in
[28:36] this I'll be honest I think we stole
[28:38] this from another local County they've
[28:40] already put it under the task force but
[28:42] it's always better than us have to hire
[28:44] more lawyers
[28:46] experiment I'd like to address
[28:49] your concern that you had and in
[28:52] reference to the exhaust and stuff
[28:54] you're you're speaking of during the
[28:56] daytime yeah is that correct they're already State statutes for that
[29:02] full law enforcement that they can force
[29:06] when are they going to start enforcing
[29:08] that night I
[29:11] there there's been there's been some
[29:13] back and forth I understand through the
[29:15] uh legislative or uh making that a first
[29:19] offense or a primary offense
[29:22] secondary offense I I think they have
[29:25] just adjusted that this past year back
[29:27] to our primaries it might know better
[29:29] than I I don't I know there was some
[29:31] discussion but
[29:32] I think they had changed that back to a
[29:34] primary
[29:36] a couple years ago they changed it to
[29:37] where it couldn't be and and I believe
[29:40] it is now so
[29:42] if that helps then
[29:44] thank you
[29:46] anyone else wishing to speak on this
[29:48] ordinance
[29:49] if not
[29:51] I'll adjourn that part of the or close
[29:54] that part of the meeting
[29:58] and thank you for attending if that's
[30:00] what you came for tonight
[30:06] and review of the Public Notices
[30:08] ornaments now
[30:10] are we going to Clegg on this one ah
[30:13] sure stuck with me one more time
[30:15] um
[30:16] so we do have two
[30:18] um hearings tonight to consider two two
[30:20] properties in Smith County determine
[30:22] whether or not they constitute a public
[30:23] notice since the first one uh is owned
[30:26] by Stephen Karen Miller uh it's it's not
[30:29] addressed but it's located next to 607
[30:31] uh Sinclair's Creek Road uh I think Paul
[30:34] has pulled some pictures up if you're
[30:36] familiar with the area this this was an
[30:37] old commercial building that's been
[30:39] vacant for some time and we did receive
[30:42] um a nuisance complaint on this property
[30:45] went by
[30:46] took the pictures that you're seeing now
[30:48] we did try to reach out to the owners
[30:50] you recall this is not our first rodeo
[30:53] with them they own the property on uh at
[30:56] Wolf Road
[30:57] and um
[31:00] I am working to track them down and get
[31:02] them served we did send notice to
[31:06] um to address the tax ticket goes to we
[31:09] did post the property and I am now
[31:11] working with the sheriff's department to
[31:12] try to to get them personally served and
[31:16] they're working to track them down but
[31:18] that is what's been debated tonight
[31:22] whether or not that property constitutes
[31:23] a public news
[31:25] and I don't think the complaining is
[31:28] here tonight but I'll be happy to answer
[31:30] any questions you may have
[31:36] Mr Williams yes sir approximately how
[31:39] long has this property been in this
[31:41] state of decay
[31:43] since I was a kid yeah I'm gonna say
[31:45] about
[31:46] at least a while and uh I thought they
[31:50] should take care for you uh I've had
[31:53] three at least three people contact me
[31:55] that lived close to it who have small
[31:57] kids who are worried about the possible
[31:59] injury of them riding their bicycle mods
[32:02] something following through and fall out
[32:03] of it that type of thing so I
[32:06] I'd be more concerned with kids crawling
[32:08] into the building now to explore if you
[32:10] like what I was when I was little well
[32:12] there's also squatters and drive back
[32:14] too
[32:16] so some a couple of decades I can tell
[32:19] you personally 20 plus years yeah I mean
[32:22] I've been doing inspections that long
[32:24] and they've driven past that many times
[32:26] well just like it over Sugar Grove huh
[32:30] you can switch pictures in it
[32:35] full disclosure that's kind of what I
[32:38] thought we were looking at was one of
[32:39] them
[32:42] I don't think the 10 11's too long
[32:47] uh
[32:48] it's good
[32:50] that's all I have on this one so all you
[32:52] what we need to decide tonight whether
[32:54] that's to do since or not correct well
[32:56] not necessarily it's tonight's just a
[32:58] public hearing okay no it's a public
[33:00] hearing you're not obligated to vote on
[33:01] it tonight um
[33:03] if you choose to do that
[33:06] wait another month I mean we've waited
[33:07] 20 years
[33:11] in my neighborhood I'd be wanting
[33:12] something done I know that
[33:16] okay so do I have a motion let me close
[33:19] club and hearing first yeah
[33:21] pretty well know where we stands
[33:33] have a second all those in favor waving
[33:35] the rules say aye aye any foes likewise
[33:38] okay we've now waived the rules we can
[33:41] vote on it do I have a motion removed
[33:43] second that's to declare a nuisance have
[33:47] a motion in a second any discussion
[33:50] all those in favor of declared in the
[33:52] news and say aye any opposed likewise
[33:55] I believe you go to unanimous there all
[33:58] right thank you all
[34:00] we got more than we expected
[34:03] so I'll give Paul a second to pull out
[34:05] the pictures from the next property
[34:09] another nuisance complaint uh this one
[34:12] you've probably seen
[34:14] um in the past this is 366 North
[34:16] overlook this is the hall edition this
[34:18] is a Honda was damaged by fire
[34:21] um as you can tell nothing's been done
[34:23] to clean it up or to secure the property
[34:27] um
[34:28] Rodney found a nuisance complaint
[34:29] several months ago we've been trying to
[34:32] track down the owners unsuccessful to do
[34:34] that through that process I learned that
[34:36] this property is going to come off for a
[34:37] tax sale or it's scheduled to come up
[34:39] for a tax sale and what I've learned in
[34:43] the past is that whether we're able to
[34:45] get in there and clean it up or not it
[34:47] is in our best interest if you declare
[34:49] this to be a public nuisance to notify
[34:51] the folks attacks so that they can put a
[34:52] deed restriction so that when this
[34:54] Property Transfers the next owner is
[34:56] obligated to clean it up so a very
[34:58] similar situation that we had on adwolf
[35:00] Road uh so while we will certainly work
[35:02] through the process to try to get it um
[35:04] evaded uh if if you do declare the
[35:07] public nuisance at the very least we can get that to tax and have that
[35:11] transferred with the deal
[35:12] um and then
[35:15] um one piece of good news on this one we historically have problems uh getting
[35:19] service on these folks but through a
[35:21] great relationship with the sheriff's
[35:22] department now we actually have personal
[35:24] service on this one uh all of our first
[35:27] class and certified leaders are coming
[35:28] back but um when you start knocking on
[35:31] doors and getting people off the couch
[35:33] it makes a difference so I certainly
[35:35] appreciate their efforts on this one and
[35:38] Ronnie's with us tonight I'm sure he
[35:40] would like to talk to you about how it
[35:41] is impact in his neighborhood okay I
[35:43] guess I better open the public hearing
[35:45] before
[35:46] no one else has signed up Rodney did you
[35:48] want to yeah I just said one comment to
[35:50] piggyback of what Mike said earlier
[35:52] about I'll give you ahead I'm sorry
[35:53] about six month old job I just want to
[35:56] let the board aware that there are six
[35:57] homes was it 200 yards of this house
[35:59] that have school with children and it's
[36:02] falling on itself so I appreciate it
[36:04] together
[36:05] thanks thank you Roger
[36:09] anybody else wishing to comment on this
[36:15] all right
[36:17] hearing none I'll close public hearing
[36:20] so I can make a motion to wave the rules
[36:23] okay have a motion to Second any further
[36:25] discussion all those in favor of Raven
[36:27] rules signified to say hi uh any opposed
[36:31] it sounds like it was unanimous okay
[36:34] Mr chairman I'd like to go ahead and
[36:35] make a motion to clear this property of
[36:37] Nations
[36:38] okay in motion he's learning nuisance
[36:41] we have a second any further discussion
[36:44] hearing none all those in favor
[36:46] declaring the Medusa say aye any pose likewise
[36:50] sounds like it was unanimous okay
[36:55] uh close but McCarron and everything
[36:58] else it goes with it now and we'll move
[37:00] on
[37:02] minutes of the previous meeting
[37:06] we have the November 10th meeting and in
[37:10] our packet
[37:13] anybody have any comments
[37:16] anything this they need to say about it
[37:21] I'll entertaining a motion to approve
[37:25] have a motion to approve any second
[37:27] because I have a second any no any
[37:29] discussion
[37:30] hearing does all those whatever say I I
[37:33] any opposed likewise
[37:35] all right motion passes Financial
[37:38] status report
[37:41] thank you Mr chairman uh due to the tax
[37:44] collections it's treasurer's office we
[37:46] do not have any Financial approvals
[37:48] available yet so when we receive those I
[37:51] will we'll email those out to you you do
[37:53] have very included in your packet the
[37:55] revenue and expenditure summary
[38:00] thank you Alicia another one can just
[38:03] comment to you but I am looking forward
[38:05] to the day that we have a financial and
[38:07] I know that we have a financial package
[38:09] that at the end of the day our Treasurer
[38:12] or someone can print off a financial
[38:14] statement so this board has a little
[38:15] idea of what money we have to spend and
[38:18] we didn't spend you know financially
[38:20] Where Do We Stand instead of once a year
[38:21] when we get our audit report five months
[38:23] after the year ends
[38:25] I just
[38:27] being an accountant it just bothers me
[38:29] that we walk operate so much in the dark
[38:32] and then every citizen doesn't realize
[38:34] that but it's drove me crazy now for
[38:37] almost eight years
[38:38] and long before that I was going crazy
[38:40] so uh
[38:42] so you know we so you'll know some of
[38:44] the future plans and I don't guess this
[38:46] is a secret we're trying to budget to to
[38:49] get money put aside where we can update
[38:51] our financial packet
[38:54] um
[38:55] so we can have better reporting for the
[38:57] county in all aspects I guess one
[39:00] advantage for our system being as old as
[39:02] it was at last year sometime a hacker
[39:04] tried to hack into our system and we
[39:06] were so old they could do it drives us crazy in other ways and we
[39:15] need to be we need to be where we're
[39:17] getting the financial information we
[39:19] need in order to govern and be the most
[39:21] effective at what we need to do for the
[39:22] county and uh and that's just one of the
[39:25] things where it is not a cheap it's not
[39:27] going to be a cheap fix but it's got to
[39:29] be done sometime
[39:31] and we might as well get it done while
[39:32] we get the full bang for our buck and
[39:34] instead of putting it in and all of a
[39:35] sudden it'd be obsolete within the week
[39:37] so that's just a editorial comment for
[39:40] you you that are here tonight
[39:44] I moved
[39:45] moving on now payment of invoices and
[39:49] accounts payable attached you have a
[39:51] list of all of our invoices that we paid
[39:54] this month
[39:55] I guess we just now need to say our
[39:57] blessing over those paid invoices do I
[39:58] have a motion to approve
[40:01] do I have a second
[40:04] all right appreciate it any discussion
[40:08] hearing doing all those in favor
[40:09] signifying the same aye
[40:11] uh Indian post likewise sounds like that
[40:14] was unanimous
[40:17] citizens time
[40:21] I believe that's Dan Kegley has signed
[40:23] up for Citizens all over citizens time
[40:25] is it Dan or is it
[40:27] sure well I wasn't sure where it was a d
[40:30] or a desk
[40:34] if you want to see how she said
[40:37] sorry
[40:40] I am Sarah Kegley
[40:42] and I just want to step forward and say
[40:45] thank you for being willing to take on
[40:50] the roles that y'all have
[40:53] I wish more citizens would come to be
[40:57] able to see because as also being an
[41:00] employee I understand some of the
[41:02] frustrations
[41:03] but y'all are helping to make a
[41:06] difference
[41:07] I have never felt more proud of our
[41:10] community than what I do now because I
[41:14] feel like we have a board who's working
[41:16] together with us with us as employees
[41:22] and
[41:23] because recently y'all showed your
[41:26] gratitude to those of us who are
[41:28] employed by the county I won't formally
[41:32] say thank you
[41:35] that was a pleasant surprise
[41:38] not necessary at all
[41:40] but it showed that you cared
[41:44] and I would very much like for us to
[41:47] build on the Smith County Strong theme
[41:50] to encourage more of the employees and
[41:54] more the citizens tree to be here at
[41:57] board meetings and to realize how
[42:00] important it is with what you're doing
[42:02] so thank you thank you thank you
[42:06] and that goes for Dan too
[42:10] I second all of them
[42:18] thank you very much you helped me pay my
[42:20] taxes
[42:22] [Laughter]
[42:26] real estate my personal property tax
[42:27] bill I had this year huh
[42:30] I traded Vehicles one they got me oh we
[42:34] got me I guess
[42:37] another month
[42:38] all righty I'll close citizens time and
[42:41] anything there
[42:42] and first off anybody else would want to
[42:45] speak in citizens time
[42:47] that's your chance to say anything to
[42:48] him
[42:49] newspaper want to speak to us as well
[42:51] just observe I'm close citizens time
[42:54] then and we'll go into the old business
[42:56] and we'll start with the budget
[42:57] committee report and I will ask Sean if
[42:59] you'll do that absolutely so the basic
[43:02] committee did hold a meeting Friday
[43:04] December 2nd at 9 30. everyone was
[43:07] present and we just had I want to say
[43:10] three four five agenda items the first
[43:13] item item was budget amendment number
[43:15] six which included
[43:17] um uh ten thousand dollar adjustment for
[43:19] the clerk of court uh related to juror
[43:22] payments uh from last year that had to
[43:24] be rolled over to this fiscal year the
[43:27] next item was uh Saltville Library Arc
[43:30] grant for 85 000 80 000 Grant five
[43:35] thousand dollars coming from the library
[43:36] to go along with the counties fifteen
[43:38] thousand dollar contribution for that
[43:41] the third one was uh Marion Intermediate
[43:43] School Brownfield Grant the county
[43:46] received a a grant from the DEQ
[43:49] Brownfield program to remediate the
[43:52] asbestos in the Intermediate School that
[43:55] total cost is just shy of a quarter
[43:57] million dollars the grant was 122 000
[43:59] and change so we needed to put that get
[44:02] that put into the budget and the last
[44:04] item was for the WCC building that the
[44:08] Eda purchased for project learn for some
[44:12] repairs that the Eda will be doing in
[44:16] the community college will be
[44:17] reimbursing to the tune of about a
[44:19] hundred thousand dollars total budget
[44:21] number six is three hundred seventeen
[44:24] thousand seven nineteen and you have a
[44:26] draft
[44:27] uh resolution and exhibit in your packet
[44:31] following conversation during the budget
[44:33] committee
[44:34] supervisor Sturgill recommend made a
[44:36] motion to recommend approving
[44:38] measurement amendment number six in the
[44:40] amount of 317 719 and vice chair
[44:44] supervisor Lori deals second into motion
[44:46] it was unassically approved a
[44:48] recommendation from your committee
[44:53] okay we have a motion uh
[44:55] any further discussion on that
[44:58] that's budget amendment number one six
[45:00] channel number six
[45:03] any comments or
[45:06] hearing none all those in favor signify
[45:08] the same aye aye any opposed I believe
[45:12] that was unanimous
[45:13] now the next item is request from Nebo
[45:15] Community Center okay
[45:18] um yeah I brought up a uh if you
[45:21] remember a few months ago the Nebo
[45:23] Community Center had requested some
[45:25] funds to
[45:26] do some repairs to the building the
[45:29] initial phase was 61 000 116. at that
[45:32] time
[45:33] additional needs equaled to almost a two
[45:37] hundred thousand dollar project the
[45:39] committee talked about that in in detail
[45:41] following
[45:43] conversation uh the um the committee
[45:46] basically made a motion or a we're in
[45:49] favor to table the request until we got
[45:51] to the full board meeting tonight to
[45:54] have the full board to discuss it rather
[45:55] than having a committee recommendation
[45:58] okay thank you
[46:00] Mr chairman yes since Mr Stevenson is
[46:05] not here that is in his district I
[46:06] prefer and I would talk about full board
[46:08] tonight but I'd personally rather him be
[46:10] here since that's his district if that's
[46:12] okay
[46:13] that's fine with me it's a form of
[46:14] motion okay
[46:22] in that way they can all be here known
[46:23] in January we're going to talk about it
[46:26] January 8th or 12th meeting but I don't
[46:30] think much will take
[46:31] I don't think much would occur between
[46:33] now and then anyway in the way of
[46:34] construction so
[46:36] everybody knows where I stand on that I
[46:38] think we need to do them both but
[46:40] we're moving on to something else
[46:44] EMS service fees oh
[46:48] no we didn't vote all in favor of table
[46:51] interesting if I was saying aye
[46:53] any pose likewise
[46:55] sounds like we tabled it
[46:57] okay so the next item we discussed was
[46:59] EMS billing service fee schedule
[47:02] the um uh I had as we're working to
[47:07] bring up pull up the EMS station as of
[47:10] January 1st we need to go ahead and and
[47:13] get a a fee schedule incorporated into
[47:15] the the county books so after discussion
[47:19] since it's new funds and new fee
[47:23] structures we will have to have a public
[47:25] hearing so following the conversations
[47:27] supervisor Sturgill made a motion to
[47:30] recommend scheduling the public hearing
[47:32] for the emsp schedule on January 26th at
[47:36] five o'clock or soon thereafter
[47:38] supervisor deals second into motion it
[47:40] was passed unanimously this is simply
[47:42] for a public hearing so we can consider
[47:44] new fee structure
[47:46] all right any discussion
[47:48] 30 million dollars a favor signify for
[47:50] saying hi hi
[47:53] sounds like it was unanimous but anyone
[47:55] opposed likewise you know I just have a
[47:58] question if I may too late now well it's
[48:01] not about the Motions about something
[48:02] else that I mentioned in our meeting and
[48:05] I know you clarified it but I wanted to
[48:07] get legal advice too I had mentioned a
[48:11] lot our emergency services are strained
[48:14] from time to time particularly along the
[48:16] 81 Corridor by people who are not
[48:18] citizens in the county so my question
[48:20] was can we soft Bill our citizens but
[48:25] harneville people who are outside of
[48:27] Smith County that put a strain on our
[48:30] found EMS agencies or is that
[48:32] discrimination
[48:35] before he speaks I will say that I did I
[48:38] wanted to reach out to a few folks
[48:40] um so I reached out to three different
[48:42] localities that has a county-wide EMS
[48:44] agencies and all three do that very same
[48:47] that very thing they just off Bill
[48:49] citizens but you still have to build
[48:51] them three four times trying to get the
[48:52] payments but they don't send they don't
[48:55] do the hard billing for Citizens but
[48:57] they do our billing for it because with
[48:59] some policy enough that
[49:00] I did not get an actual policy from
[49:03] anyone
[49:03] but no one gave me
[49:06] but it is a practice and settle
[49:08] localities I think it's just the
[49:10] discretion of the agency
[49:12] of how they built
[49:14] and just clarification soft billing
[49:16] would be that we accept
[49:18] what the insurance company pays for our
[49:21] services
[49:23] asking for the difference yeah and then
[49:25] it stops we still we still have to send
[49:27] a bill but we don't send any collections
[49:30] yeah
[49:31] or if they if they owe 500 but they can
[49:35] only pay us 400.
[49:36] well right off we're right off 100.
[49:39] but if you are from a different locality
[49:43] or state and
[49:45] Cleveland Heart Building
[49:48] correct or if you don't want to be
[49:50] Hardware move here
[49:52] don't don't knock down our happies
[49:56] that's kind of my point because that
[49:58] really strained a whole lot of resources
[50:00] I think I do have one more thing to add
[50:02] Pulaski County for instance they told me
[50:04] that they this past year they received
[50:07] 1.4 million in revenues off of soft
[50:10] billing on the hard billing side since
[50:13] 2017 they've let they've received just
[50:16] over 17 000 in the last five years so
[50:19] our billing won't that that doesn't
[50:21] result in very much revenue but they do
[50:25] have it as their practice there were the
[50:27] ones that that were a good example that
[50:29] I wanted to
[50:30] okay thank you very much
[50:34] and
[50:35] next item that we discussed the budget
[50:38] committee uh was the Mount Rogers health
[50:40] district request
[50:42] the health district notified me a few
[50:44] weeks ago that they have a surplus from
[50:46] FY 2122 an amount just shy of thirty
[50:51] four thousand dollars largely and due to
[50:53] turnover issues and vacancies they
[50:57] requested that we allow them to roll
[50:59] over those funds to the current fiscal
[51:02] year to be used they also know I did
[51:05] note that in the past few years we've
[51:07] had slight deficits at seven to nine
[51:10] thousand dollar range that they have not
[51:11] billed us for so it's almost a give and
[51:14] take
[51:15] and what I've recommended to the
[51:18] committee was recommend allowing them to
[51:21] roll it over which would hopefully
[51:22] result in another Surplus this coming
[51:24] fiscal year following discussion Mr
[51:27] Sturgill made a motion to recommend
[51:30] proving the rollover funding in the
[51:32] amount of 33
[51:34] 912.74 cents with supervisor deals
[51:37] sickening the motion and um passing you
[51:40] down in this link as a recommendation
[51:41] from committee okay that's committee
[51:43] recommendation any discussion
[51:45] hearing none all those in favor signify
[51:47] the same time any opposed likewise I
[51:51] believe it was unanimous okay the final
[51:54] item was the supplemental appropriation
[51:55] request we have finally received
[51:57] information from the state for the cdbg
[52:00] food pantry project that we can do the
[52:03] final closeout payment which is 5975
[52:07] dollars to the Mount Riders plan
[52:09] District commission for their Grant
[52:11] Administration Services
[52:13] we don't have any funds appropriated so
[52:17] we do have to do need did need to
[52:19] appropriate that out of fund 303
[52:21] following discussion supervisor Sturgill
[52:24] made a motion to recommend a proven to
[52:27] supplemental appropriation for the cdbg
[52:28] food pantry project fund 303 in the
[52:32] amount of five thousand nine seventy
[52:33] five with supervisor deals second into
[52:36] motion and at passing unanimously by the
[52:39] committee okay once again a committee
[52:41] recommendation any discussion
[52:43] all those in favor signify the saying
[52:46] aye any opposed likewise
[52:49] sounds like that was unanimous
[52:52] now going into the Personnel committee
[53:02] we're here to proceed with that
[53:03] absolutely no problem at all so we the
[53:06] um the Personnel committee had a meeting
[53:08] on December 2nd at 9 15 very short
[53:11] meeting basically had one item to
[53:13] discuss
[53:14] regarding a potential or a request for
[53:18] having a contract related to CDL Drivers
[53:21] we're having a difficult time finding
[53:24] CDL A's Class A drivers for semi trucks
[53:28] and trailers we have had some
[53:30] applications for with folks who have
[53:32] cdlb which can drive a roll off but not
[53:36] with a not a trailer
[53:38] following the the lead of several law
[53:41] enforcement agencies they
[53:44] that we came up with a draft contract
[53:47] for basically if we hire a cdlb
[53:50] um paying for the training necessary to
[53:53] bring them up to a cdla with the
[53:55] agreement that they will work for the
[53:57] county for a set period of time and if
[53:59] they leave prior to that they owe us for
[54:01] the cost of the of the training and the
[54:05] one of the conversations we had during
[54:08] that during the meeting was should we
[54:11] have them pay us for the cost of the
[54:13] salary also so the law enforcement
[54:15] contracts do have that provision where
[54:17] they they reimburse for the salary and
[54:19] the cost of training and anything else
[54:21] related so we can add that language in
[54:24] if we needed following discussion
[54:27] supervisor Sturgill made a
[54:29] recommendation to approve the
[54:30] reimbursement contract for training
[54:31] expenses for online applicants regarding
[54:34] the hiring of cdla drivers as amended to
[54:37] include a session for the provision to
[54:40] um oh I'm sorry let me take a step back
[54:43] the other item that they just discussed
[54:45] was what if they failed the class do
[54:47] they owe us for that cost and I think
[54:50] that needs to be included into it in the
[54:52] committee too so to include the amended
[54:56] section four for the provision of
[54:57] failure to pass the course
[55:00] um supervisor Atkins second in the
[55:02] motion was passed unanimously so that's
[55:04] a recommendation from the committee to
[55:06] approve the contract as amended for
[55:09] those other two items
[55:12] any
[55:13] committee recommendation to any
[55:14] discussion the copy of the draft
[55:16] contract was in the in the packet for
[55:19] your review does everyone know what
[55:21] we're voting on here
[55:22] for putting a new new
[55:25] process in place I guess you would say
[55:27] and you didn't mention it but it says it
[55:30] here but I'm gonna it's for an automatic
[55:32] transmission
[55:33] we don't own an automatic yes so may I
[55:38] ask a question sure we're informal
[55:41] is that a full-time or part-time job
[55:44] full-time full-time or we do either one
[55:46] but we'd rather full-time you know how
[55:49] about cdla by any chance do you yes I do
[55:55] you guys
[55:59] this was your interview
[56:02] oh Ronnie
[56:05] any more discussion
[56:08] I just want to make sure everybody knows
[56:09] what we're voting on and the committee
[56:11] recommendation is is that we approve the
[56:13] reimbursement contract all those in
[56:16] favor signify for saying aye any opposed likewise
[56:20] sounds like a unanimous
[56:25] that's all we have for the person okay
[56:27] Public Safety Committee
[56:29] that would be me Mr chairman the Public
[56:31] Safety Committee met on Tuesday November
[56:33] 22nd at 2 pm it was a joint meeting held
[56:36] with the town of Marion and they are
[56:38] fire and
[56:39] police committee I think is funny
[56:43] okay our name is Vinnie
[56:46] um so there was
[56:48] our board members and then also guests
[56:51] from the town of Marion
[56:52] the first item of discussion was an
[56:54] update on our Smith County EMS station
[56:56] in Atkins Mr Mr Crawford provided an
[56:59] update on that station
[57:01] and discuss the goals of the agency in
[57:04] advance of the Fire EMS location would
[57:06] be a backup for all the agencies within
[57:08] Smith County
[57:10] uh Mr utt said that the primary goal of
[57:12] the agency would be providing EMS
[57:14] support and Mr Crawford discussed the
[57:17] radio frequency and paging that would be
[57:19] used and noted that if it became
[57:20] burdensome burdensome it would be moved
[57:23] to a different Channel
[57:25] Chief keezling from Marion Fire EMS was
[57:27] here in Aspen County if if the Fire EMS
[57:30] station in Atkins would be able to do
[57:32] extrication and Mr Crawford noted that
[57:34] the county would not have that ability
[57:36] initially and would still need to lean
[57:39] on marrying a fire department like we
[57:41] currently do now Chihuahua District
[57:43] supervisor Mr Sturgill advised that the
[57:45] new training facility located in
[57:46] Chilhowee First Responders could be
[57:49] cross-trained there and they advised
[57:51] that he would find that it would be
[57:52] extremely beneficial for all of the
[57:55] Departments across the county
[57:57] in your packet you'll see starting on
[58:00] page 128 is a map of all of these
[58:05] assignments for the county I discussion
[58:07] was had with Mr Rush from the town of
[58:09] Marion regarding those DSN assignments
[58:13] and ask if the Atkins ESN would benefit
[58:15] the group Mr Crocker advised that he
[58:17] would have the changes drawn up and
[58:20] distributed for approval showing the
[58:21] Atkins esn's of 560 538 and 559 changed
[58:26] to reflect the County EMS as the primary
[58:28] agency instead of Rural Retreat and man
[58:34] the next item and discussion was the
[58:36] Smith County and expectations Mr shared
[58:39] a handout to summarize the expectations
[58:40] for EMS operations and accounting and
[58:42] the next steps that will be taken moving
[58:44] forward he advised the CIS agreements
[58:47] progress progresses whether County
[58:49] operated agency or contracted with each
[58:51] town or a combination specific
[58:53] expectations would be identified and
[58:55] create create goals for each agency
[58:58] the list of expectations was discussed
[59:00] in Mr advised that the full agreement
[59:02] would be drafted using these bullet
[59:03] points for further review and Mr Rush
[59:06] noted that he felt all the points were
[59:08] manageable and he supported the effort
[59:09] and you will find that list of both
[59:11] points on page 127 and those are for EMS
[59:17] agencies with a call load of over 500 or
[59:20] 5 500 things about money 500 calls per
[59:23] year
[59:24] so that would basically be chillowing
[59:26] and yeah
[59:28] so our three towns so and us and in the
[59:32] county yes
[59:33] so those bullet points are staffed with
[59:35] ALS Advanced life support service 24
[59:38] hours a day at 90 of the time that's an
[59:41] average over a quarterly period ALS
[59:43] transport capable ambulance in route or
[59:46] moving towards an initial call within
[59:47] three minutes for first cause of being
[59:49] dispatched at least 90 of the time and
[59:52] that's also an average of over a
[59:54] quarterly period answer initial call 90
[59:57] of the time again average over a
[59:59] quarterly period and partner
[1:00:01] participating in Smith County Fire and
[1:00:03] Rescue Training Academy programs initial
[1:00:05] training provided at no cost and levels
[1:00:07] above basic classes may have a cost but
[1:00:10] at a reduced rate for system
[1:00:11] participants daily operation report
[1:00:13] provided provide daily shift reports to
[1:00:17] dispatch psap to include shift
[1:00:19] assignments which is ALS versus BLS to
[1:00:22] help with coordination of incoming calls
[1:00:24] throughout each day and possibly using a
[1:00:27] web-based app and then having a point of
[1:00:29] contact so they would provide the chief
[1:00:31] or designee to serve as a point of
[1:00:34] contact with the County Emergency
[1:00:35] Management coordinator and the public
[1:00:37] safety department to resolve any
[1:00:38] administrative issues that may arise on
[1:00:40] a day-to-day basis and this person would
[1:00:42] be available at minimum during normal
[1:00:45] business hours throughout the week
[1:00:47] the next item of discussion was the
[1:00:49] Smith County auto aim discussion which
[1:00:51] you all know
[1:00:52] how passionate I am about that and I'm
[1:00:54] thankful to say that I think we are
[1:00:56] finally coming to an end and all finally
[1:00:59] working together the discussion start
[1:01:02] with Mr Crawford minister of providing
[1:01:04] maps and a quick overview of the auto
[1:01:06] Aid concept Mr Crawford noted that all
[1:01:08] agencies are on board with the plan
[1:01:11] except for the town of Marion discussion
[1:01:13] ensued about logistics and expectations
[1:01:15] of the project and Mr Crawford confirmed
[1:01:17] that the town of Marion would have
[1:01:18] certain equipment that would only
[1:01:20] provide services to specific locations
[1:01:22] in Atkins sugar grove and the ad wolf
[1:01:24] areas and would not be responding with
[1:01:26] all equipment to all fires further
[1:01:28] discussion ensued and Mr Jim Barker from
[1:01:31] the Marion Town Council requested a
[1:01:33] formal presentation at the next town of
[1:01:35] Marion council meeting on December 5th
[1:01:37] Mr edavis that would be a great
[1:01:39] opportunity to answer questions or
[1:01:41] concerns by the Town Council I think
[1:01:43] upon completion of that presentation
[1:01:47] the Town Council had been misinformed
[1:01:49] about what the program looked like I
[1:01:51] think they have a better understanding
[1:01:52] of that now and they seem to be on board
[1:01:54] yeah they asked for a copy of the
[1:01:56] agreement that we've emailed them the
[1:01:58] copy of the full agreement so I think
[1:01:59] the next council meeting they'll vote on
[1:02:01] it will be good for toward the end of
[1:02:04] December moving forward county-wide
[1:02:07] and since the time Marion was not
[1:02:09] participating by default that excluded
[1:02:12] Atkins and Sugar Grove from being able
[1:02:14] to participate because Marion was a big
[1:02:15] hole in the center so thankfully with
[1:02:18] them coming on board now can be a full
[1:02:20] county-wide auto aid program that better
[1:02:23] serves our citizens which is the whole
[1:02:25] point of this whole thing
[1:02:27] so our vision for Smith County public
[1:02:30] safety was the next item of discussion
[1:02:32] and Mr Crawford provided a document of
[1:02:34] that Vision which is in your packet and
[1:02:37] it begins on page 135 it is an excellent
[1:02:41] document so if you have not reviewed
[1:02:43] that I highly recommend that you do so
[1:02:45] it includes a vision of moving forward
[1:02:48] with station two which is the former
[1:02:50] Marion lifestyle recruit building on
[1:02:52] Park Street in Marion we're considering
[1:02:55] using that as a Dispatch Center and
[1:02:58] Emergency Operations Center and we have
[1:03:01] quite a deep discussion about that
[1:03:04] and with no further risk to discuss will
[1:03:06] you join the meeting at 3 51.
[1:03:09] that's all Mr chairman all right thank
[1:03:12] you very much anyone got any questions
[1:03:13] for us
[1:03:14] she's my go-to person on this EMS stuff
[1:03:17] because I'll be honest I couldn't keep
[1:03:19] up with it I finally quit trying
[1:03:22] appreciate your work on that sir my
[1:03:24] pleasure
[1:03:25] um these two are very helpful as well
[1:03:28] that's why y'all are on that committee
[1:03:31] Surplus community
[1:03:35] Roscoe's chair
[1:03:38] I'll be glad to uh Surplus committee met
[1:03:41] on December 2nd at 9 00 a.m
[1:03:44] um Mr call and Mr Dr ratliffler in prep
[1:03:47] and and uh were present for the meeting
[1:03:49] we only had um one main item to discuss
[1:03:53] uh basically I would call it spring
[1:03:56] cleaning it was more fall cleaning there
[1:03:58] were five vehicles that we are looking
[1:04:00] to Surplus and two pieces of equipment
[1:04:02] you'll see the list there in the packet
[1:04:05] um the five vehicles from the sheriff's
[1:04:07] department
[1:04:08] a sewer a sewer jet trailer mounted
[1:04:11] sewer jet that hasn't worked in a few
[1:04:13] years we also had a air compressor that
[1:04:17] has had some problems that we've deemed
[1:04:20] and then unable to fix or just doesn't
[1:04:23] make any cost it's not cost effective so
[1:04:27] for those seven items a motion was made
[1:04:31] by Mr call to recommend declaring it all
[1:04:35] items and vehicles Surplus and to ties
[1:04:38] for mids supervisor Ratliff taking the
[1:04:42] motion is a recommendation from the
[1:04:44] committee
[1:04:45] all right we haven't recommended any
[1:04:48] we don't need anything any further discussion on this
[1:04:54] here you know we have a motion to
[1:04:57] Surplus these items all those in favor
[1:04:59] signify the same eye any opposed
[1:05:02] likewise
[1:05:04] do we have anyone in motion passes do we
[1:05:07] have anyone that's indicated an interest
[1:05:09] in any of these vehicles we usually get
[1:05:11] phone calls from from various folks
[1:05:13] around around now looking for for that
[1:05:16] to be in the newspaper we so yeah well
[1:05:19] I've had a few phone calls I'm not sure
[1:05:21] I've had a few last week you know
[1:05:22] because sometimes we have other
[1:05:23] departments too you know yeah we we
[1:05:26] there were seven vehicles and we've
[1:05:29] taken two out to um to use in other
[1:05:31] departments okay so the these are really
[1:05:34] the ones that are once the Sheriff's
[1:05:36] Office
[1:05:36] is done with them they're done so we
[1:05:38] don't have to look at them back here
[1:05:39] anymore right that's the goal either
[1:05:41] parking in Courtney's yard no no
[1:05:45] all right well we passed the Surplus and
[1:05:48] so that they can get Young
[1:05:51] I thank you for that
[1:05:54] Water and Sewer community
[1:05:57] I'll be glad to take that if you like
[1:05:59] please so we had a water cereal
[1:06:02] committee December 2nd at 10 A.M
[1:06:04] um Mr call and Miss deal were present
[1:06:07] we have one item to discuss larger item
[1:06:11] to discuss a wire line upgrade
[1:06:13] um so Mr Williams had reported that he
[1:06:16] was approached by the town of Marion
[1:06:17] regarding the upgrade to water lines on
[1:06:19] West Chilhowee Street
[1:06:22] the town had asked the county if they
[1:06:25] were interested in paying for the
[1:06:26] upgrade from it they're replacing the
[1:06:28] line with a new two inch line they
[1:06:30] suggested maybe it'd be a smart
[1:06:32] investment on for us to pay for the
[1:06:34] difference from a two inch to a six inch
[1:06:37] we sent an email out to the Lane group
[1:06:40] to review the project to see what kind
[1:06:43] of benefit we could have the town
[1:06:45] thought it would be a a cost of thirty
[1:06:49] thousand dollars after reviewing
[1:06:51] everything we realized that the county
[1:06:53] line on the mat on the on paper said
[1:06:56] that we went across the creek and were
[1:07:00] within a few feet of the town of Marion
[1:07:02] which in reality we're about 900 feet
[1:07:04] away from the creek
[1:07:06] sort of the creek correct um so the cost
[1:07:09] went from a 30 000 estimate to about 150
[1:07:11] 000 so because he had a bore under the
[1:07:13] creek
[1:07:15] um so they'll know that that's uh
[1:07:18] as it as advantageous because of uh we
[1:07:21] were hoping that we could spend thirty
[1:07:23] thousand dollars and be able to get fire
[1:07:24] flow in different parts of the county
[1:07:26] um I think if it's going to spend 150
[1:07:28] 000 we wanted to take a step back and
[1:07:30] see where we could put that in better
[1:07:31] spots to get more fireflow capability
[1:07:34] that was more of an informational item
[1:07:39] the next item we talked about were two
[1:07:43] DEQ sewer grants that we were at applied
[1:07:46] for we applied for one on Staley Creek
[1:07:48] route 16. we had a sewer line at father
[1:07:51] Staley Creek that is in Parts in the
[1:07:56] creek or under the creek and the
[1:07:57] manholes are are leaky and we have when
[1:08:01] it's when it rains we the town of Marion
[1:08:04] treats a lot of water for us a lot of
[1:08:05] sewer for us because it's just the rain
[1:08:08] water it's not it's not the good thing
[1:08:10] is the sewer's not yet now it's the
[1:08:12] rainwater getting in
[1:08:13] um so we we did have a uh an offer of
[1:08:17] 500 600 from DEQ for a zero percent
[1:08:20] interest loan over over a period of 30
[1:08:23] years
[1:08:24] um I think the rli is going to make
[1:08:26] sense for that one uh and uh in late
[1:08:30] spring we should hear whether there's
[1:08:32] some Grant funds available
[1:08:34] they did they the state didn't want to
[1:08:37] make the grant funds available yet
[1:08:39] because they haven't they don't have
[1:08:40] anything finalized from the federal
[1:08:42] government on the clean water portion of
[1:08:44] their funds but there's a chance that we
[1:08:46] can have
[1:08:48] is called forgivable
[1:08:50] principal forgiveness they can't call it
[1:08:52] grants they call it personal forgiveness
[1:08:53] but I think we do have a good project
[1:08:57] there no action was necessary yet the
[1:09:01] second project we talked about was a bit
[1:09:03] larger project to get sewer out at gross
[1:09:06] close exit 54 I think we've looked at
[1:09:09] this several times over over the past
[1:09:10] several years the initial project ranged
[1:09:15] from 3.8 million dollars to 6.3 million
[1:09:18] the offer from DEQ was at the initial
[1:09:21] 3.8 million dollar range with a 0.5
[1:09:24] interest rate over 30 years the problem
[1:09:27] there is that's that project only has 20
[1:09:30] customers that you can't get cash flow a
[1:09:34] 4 million dollar project with 20
[1:09:36] customers you're talking twelve thousand
[1:09:38] dollars a month just for that service
[1:09:41] looking at the larger project of closer
[1:09:43] to the Six Million Dollar Mark that gets
[1:09:46] us upwards of 100 plus customers and if
[1:09:49] we get some principal forgiveness that
[1:09:53] might start making some sense so we're
[1:09:55] going to hit the pause button on that
[1:09:57] hoping that we get a hefty principle
[1:10:00] forgiveness amount offer for that again
[1:10:03] just informational at this point and
[1:10:06] that no further business the meeting was
[1:10:09] just adjourned at 10 13. go ahead
[1:10:12] Mr chair I just wanted to note too I did
[1:10:14] have a conversation with Senator
[1:10:16] pillion's office about this project and
[1:10:19] they indicated that they would like to
[1:10:21] support us on this however they can in
[1:10:24] working with DEQ so be sure to keep them
[1:10:26] LinkedIn on it and we did we did talk to
[1:10:28] him quite a bit and I think they
[1:10:30] understood they're they're encouraging
[1:10:32] for the potential for commercial
[1:10:35] development
[1:10:36] the problem
[1:10:38] with the the cash flow I think that he
[1:10:40] understood so he was going to try and
[1:10:42] encourage as much principal forgiveness
[1:10:44] as we as he could muster also
[1:10:47] how much interest is mustard Lumber
[1:10:49] Company showed in uh
[1:10:51] needing the sewer there have they shown
[1:10:53] any not as much lesser but the property
[1:10:56] owner Mr Bunn he's offered to to put
[1:11:00] some some money into it but I don't
[1:11:03] expect seven figures to break it down I
[1:11:05] mean
[1:11:06] um it would have to be a substantial
[1:11:08] amount of cash to to bring it down to
[1:11:10] where it's cash flowable but they are
[1:11:13] interested in getting sued because we
[1:11:15] can do a lot with uh well it's there's
[1:11:17] some beautiful restaurant sites up
[1:11:19] through there too if we had a sewer in
[1:11:21] that area and the the 6.3 million dollar
[1:11:24] version that brought
[1:11:27] that took the sewer line up up the hill
[1:11:31] east of the exit a fair a fair way to
[1:11:35] get some residential connections and it
[1:11:38] also caught the residential connections
[1:11:40] following around 11 all the way down to
[1:11:41] the space side
[1:11:43] um the 3.8 when that's just the pump
[1:11:45] station that pumps along the rail the
[1:11:48] train tracks and doesn't get any
[1:11:49] residential connections past the
[1:11:52] Brickyard now is it the one that comes
[1:11:53] is it still coming down from the
[1:11:55] convenience station on the interstate or
[1:11:57] is it actually coming up this would be a
[1:12:00] follow the railroad okay
[1:12:02] foreign
[1:12:05] I never want to miss a chance to share
[1:12:08] my vision and dreams but when folks are
[1:12:12] traveling south on 81 that exit is
[1:12:15] really you're welcome to Smith County
[1:12:16] and it's not very
[1:12:19] aesthetically pleasing and also I would
[1:12:22] love to see a sign that said would you
[1:12:25] like a chance to hike the Appalachian
[1:12:26] Trail here's your chance be a great
[1:12:28] place to pull off and
[1:12:30] walk your dog or take a break and walk
[1:12:33] the Appalachian Trail this be a great
[1:12:34] way to promote the county in my opinion
[1:12:36] and I think having utilities there to
[1:12:38] encourage growth is important wow
[1:12:42] maintaining our beauty of being a rural
[1:12:44] campaign just just
[1:12:50] already
[1:12:52] moving on now
[1:12:57] I guess we're into new business anybody
[1:13:00] thinks any other old business hearing
[1:13:02] none the Green Acres Evergreen Court
[1:13:04] Revenue sharing project
[1:13:06] I think reported reported last month
[1:13:09] that the VDOT they were able to pull
[1:13:12] together funding to to get this project
[1:13:14] funded for the revenue sharing in your
[1:13:17] packet it is some updated agreements
[1:13:20] we've approved agreements about three
[1:13:22] years ago I guess but the language has
[1:13:25] changed so we have some update
[1:13:26] agreements for you what I'd like to do
[1:13:28] is is recommend
[1:13:30] approval of the of the agreements and
[1:13:33] authorization of the County
[1:13:34] Administrator to execute them on on the
[1:13:36] County's behalf also there's a map
[1:13:38] showing the area there on page one
[1:13:42] 52 of the proposed
[1:13:47] areas to be paved
[1:13:52] I had a question and I meant to ask you
[1:13:54] this earlier
[1:13:55] he said that the total cost of the
[1:13:57] Project's 248
[1:13:59] 000 50 of which will need to come from
[1:14:01] the county do we not have to pay for the
[1:14:03] whole thing and then we get half of it
[1:14:05] back from this yeah we pay for all of it
[1:14:08] up front our our Outlet is going to be
[1:14:09] 248 000. I just want to make sure
[1:14:11] everybody on the board realizes that yes
[1:14:13] sir yeah okay I'm I'm expecting actual
[1:14:16] construction to be next fiscal year but
[1:14:19] we may end up having to do a budget
[1:14:21] amendment toward in the spring if it
[1:14:23] does go faster than expected okay
[1:14:27] I don't know just something there I
[1:14:28] wanted to make sure we were all aware of
[1:14:30] what you know the the owners of the
[1:14:33] property won't pass back half of it but
[1:14:34] it'll be over probably teach you five
[1:14:37] years ten years Ten Years Years okay
[1:14:40] um but we will have to come up with all
[1:14:42] of it up front to give the VDOT and then
[1:14:43] they'll pay what they want to move
[1:14:46] forward
[1:14:48] uh there's nothing for us to vote on
[1:14:50] right now uh recommendation to authorize
[1:14:52] me to execute the agreements already
[1:14:58] we have a motion in a second to approve
[1:15:00] this any discussion
[1:15:03] hearing done all those in favor signify
[1:15:05] by saying aye any pose likewise
[1:15:08] I'm happy to see progress going forward
[1:15:11] okay
[1:15:18] EMS billing agreement do we need to
[1:15:20] discuss that because we haven't had the
[1:15:22] public hearing yet on well this is the billing agent that would do the
[1:15:26] third party billing for us so in order
[1:15:28] to get things set up with them uh I
[1:15:32] thought it would be
[1:15:34] well let's take a step back if the board
[1:15:38] doesn't plan on approving any fee
[1:15:41] schedule then we don't need this but I
[1:15:43] think we will have to have some type of
[1:15:45] fee schedule I think there is an
[1:15:46] expectation to do some level of building
[1:15:49] so we can either wait until the public
[1:15:50] Hearing in January or we can go ahead
[1:15:52] and I'd recommend go and approve it
[1:15:54] tonight because there are some there are
[1:15:56] several things we need to do to get
[1:15:58] things rolling on there with Medicaid
[1:16:00] and Medicare and the insurance billing
[1:16:02] set up
[1:16:03] that billing is almost like putting the
[1:16:05] card before the horse it is which
[1:16:07] doesn't make any sense but but even
[1:16:09] after we get approved for Medicaid
[1:16:11] building building
[1:16:12] um we won't we don't expect to get
[1:16:15] revenues for four months usually three
[1:16:17] to four months after we start so
[1:16:21] yeah they're very timely I understand
[1:16:22] they are they are but the recommendation
[1:16:25] would be to approve the agreement and
[1:16:27] authorize me to execute on the counties
[1:16:29] okay do we have a motion to approve it can we
[1:16:34] have a second second
[1:16:35] Motion in a second any further
[1:16:36] discussion
[1:16:38] all those in favor signify the saying I any of those likewise
[1:16:43] once again we're unanimous
[1:16:46] all righty do we have anything else that
[1:16:49] we need
[1:16:50] I will go for a report from the county
[1:16:52] attorney
[1:16:56] I'll still be quiet
[1:16:58] um thank you Mr chairman uh the only bit
[1:17:02] of news I have really is the D
[1:17:04] Morrison building was finally recorded
[1:17:07] she said the county owns this building
[1:17:09] it was recorded last week along with the
[1:17:12] easements and the other agreements so
[1:17:17] you can now spend some more money on
[1:17:19] your remodeling I guess
[1:17:22] anyway so that was recorded now in the
[1:17:25] building
[1:17:26] um other than that just working on a few
[1:17:28] miscellaneous things one we'll talk
[1:17:30] about in closed session but um
[1:17:32] that's all I have to report unless
[1:17:34] anyone has any questions for you
[1:17:38] appreciate your work you do for us
[1:17:43] the County Administration staff
[1:17:47] I have nothing
[1:17:48] you've done nothing hold on no sir
[1:17:52] get sore um
[1:17:55] okay appreciate it
[1:17:58] supervisor comment down
[1:18:04] myself
[1:18:15] I guess
[1:18:17] I don't know if I need to talk about
[1:18:19] something but I don't know where to talk
[1:18:20] about it here or starting the
[1:18:21] PlayStation I mean
[1:18:23] I'm just going to hold on for that I do
[1:18:25] want to make the comment we talked about
[1:18:27] a lot about EMS tonight and if the
[1:18:29] citizens of the county will look back at
[1:18:31] work where we were three years ago with
[1:18:33] EMS in the county and where we're at now
[1:18:35] I'm hoping that Public Safety wise we
[1:18:37] are a lot further down the road we're if
[1:18:41] you live out in the rural area and you
[1:18:42] need help be it fire rescue or what that
[1:18:46] we had Fairly good in the past I'm
[1:18:49] hoping it's better now and we're working
[1:18:51] to make it even better and I I
[1:18:53] appreciate the public bearing with us
[1:18:55] that we've gone through some trying
[1:18:56] times but I think we're getting there
[1:18:59] and I think this board for making some
[1:19:01] decisions has helped us move there and
[1:19:04] when it was first brought up three four
[1:19:06] years ago there was some significant
[1:19:07] dollar figures thrown out there that was
[1:19:10] going to have to spend who's going to
[1:19:12] have to spend immediately and I think we
[1:19:15] have got the job done without spending
[1:19:16] that we spent a lot of money but not the
[1:19:19] huge amount at one time like they had
[1:19:21] suggested and I think we've got more
[1:19:22] than we thought we could get so
[1:19:24] appreciate the public bearing with us on
[1:19:26] that we hope to continue to improve it
[1:19:31] otherwise I hope our board member who's
[1:19:33] not who's not with us tonight did
[1:19:35] illness gets to doing better and get
[1:19:37] back with us next month I hope everyone
[1:19:39] has a nice Christmas and remember the
[1:19:42] reason for the season
[1:19:44] all these Hallmark shows on TV talk
[1:19:47] about love and everything else but it's a baby in a cradle in a Manger
[1:19:52] that's the reason for the season and the
[1:19:54] love that goes with that so let's
[1:19:56] remember that
[1:20:00] next
[1:20:02] don't worry I knew it I knew it was
[1:20:05] reading I thank you Mr chairman I I too
[1:20:08] want to commend the AMS folks and the
[1:20:12] Public Safety Committee there have been
[1:20:15] long hard discussions and I appreciate
[1:20:19] the patience with those who serve on
[1:20:20] that committee with me because you all
[1:20:22] know and I'm passionate about something
[1:20:23] I'm not going to shut up about it
[1:20:25] especially if it best serves our
[1:20:27] citizens so thank you all for
[1:20:30] um standing standing together and
[1:20:32] working to better serve our citizens and
[1:20:35] I I too am thankful to see the things
[1:20:37] that we've been able to accomplish
[1:20:38] without
[1:20:40] calls in the dollar figure to to
[1:20:43] increase we are going to have to invest
[1:20:44] some more money however we started off
[1:20:47] in a good direction
[1:20:48] yes it has been managed properly so
[1:20:51] kudos to our Public Safety folks
[1:20:54] um and I just want to say in looking at
[1:20:56] our audit report I was very pleased to
[1:21:00] see how much we have successfully been
[1:21:03] able to add to our reserve it was kind
[1:21:06] of a slow steady growth there for a
[1:21:09] couple years but these last couple years
[1:21:11] we've we've really done a good job of
[1:21:14] having more there in reserve and I and I
[1:21:16] want to commend the leadership of this
[1:21:18] board and the leadership of this County
[1:21:19] for investing in ourselves and I feel
[1:21:22] like that's where it's gotten us you
[1:21:24] know sometimes the mentality of cut cut cut your nose off despite your
[1:21:28] face but if you invest in yourself to do
[1:21:31] more
[1:21:32] um it's better for the citizens it's
[1:21:33] better for
[1:21:35] future citizens or future Generations
[1:21:37] like my children who are hopefully going
[1:21:39] to grow up and live here
[1:21:41] investing in ourselves
[1:21:44] to better serve our citizens has has
[1:21:46] proven to be successful so thank you all
[1:21:48] for your leisure for that staff and
[1:21:50] board
[1:21:52] um I do like to wish everybody a Merry
[1:21:54] Christmas and enjoy the holidays with
[1:21:56] your family and
[1:21:58] don't get caught up in the hustle and
[1:21:59] bustle I think life is just too busy and
[1:22:03] I think Christmas is a good time to slow
[1:22:04] down enjoy your families and remember
[1:22:07] why we celebrate Christmas that's Miss
[1:22:09] Jackson said so thank you all for
[1:22:11] allowing me serve on this board with you
[1:22:12] and for the citizens for coming and
[1:22:14] being here and thank you to The Keg list
[1:22:17] for coming and saying thank you I'm glad
[1:22:21] that we can do that to support our staff
[1:22:23] because obviously this County wouldn't
[1:22:25] be where it is without the the people
[1:22:26] who commit to work in Fort Smith County
[1:22:29] so thank you all
[1:22:31] and in case you wonder not
[1:22:34] people we always used to do it from one
[1:22:36] end to the other with the supervisor
[1:22:38] time and it wasn't fair so I have
[1:22:40] written down why we've written down
[1:22:42] everybody's name on a little sheet of
[1:22:43] paper and I got in a cup up here and I
[1:22:46] dump them out here and just pick one at
[1:22:47] a time and that's how that's how that's
[1:22:49] how we know who's talking next that's
[1:22:51] about as far as I can make it despite
[1:22:53] your efforts Courtney starts to go laugh
[1:22:55] out loud
[1:22:56] Mr Stevenson said he's not going to
[1:22:59] comment
[1:23:01] Mr Kyle's not going to comment
[1:23:04] okay
[1:23:10] well Lori yeah
[1:23:13] hit the nail on the head pretty much
[1:23:16] with everything and I just wanted to
[1:23:18] thank you again for the kind words and
[1:23:19] everything and we really appreciate
[1:23:21] everything everyone does here in the
[1:23:23] county and
[1:23:25] um you know
[1:23:26] I'm just blown away sometimes
[1:23:28] at looking at where we was a few years
[1:23:31] ago where we're at today and some of the
[1:23:34] decisions the tough decisions that's had
[1:23:36] to be made
[1:23:37] um we can come together we may disagree
[1:23:40] on some things but at the end of the day
[1:23:43] um we knew everything we can to take
[1:23:44] care of the citizens of the county and
[1:23:47] uh I I don't have a whole lot to say but
[1:23:49] I just appreciate the work that you guys
[1:23:52] do I appreciate the the work for uh all
[1:23:55] the County Employees uh
[1:23:58] the County Administration office
[1:24:00] employees and I want to wish everybody a
[1:24:02] merry Christmas as well and everybody be
[1:24:04] safe coming home thank you so much
[1:24:07] thank you
[1:24:09] well that's these two on my right here
[1:24:11] now Mr Sturgill next
[1:24:20] I say just highlight a few things some
[1:24:22] number one
[1:24:24] John Northwood just some of our schools
[1:24:26] great volleyball Seasons with Joe
[1:24:28] howey's girls finishing make it to the
[1:24:30] state quarterfinals uh North and uh
[1:24:33] north of the girls volleyball had a
[1:24:35] great season also uh
[1:24:38] in the seniors highest golf team
[1:24:40] finished second in the state
[1:24:42] and uh the one I play is heading to the
[1:24:45] state tournament their District region
[1:24:46] Champions so we've had a lot of good
[1:24:48] things going on and Blake Hall from
[1:24:50] Marion Middle School is the national fly
[1:24:53] fishing Champion so we have the national
[1:24:55] fly fishing champion at Smith County so
[1:24:57] congratulations to Blake we're proud
[1:25:00] this is on the south yes that's right
[1:25:04] and uh also you probably saw in the
[1:25:08] newspaper did a great job covering it we
[1:25:09] had fentanyl Awareness Day at the high
[1:25:11] schools and uh which it's sad that that's where we
[1:25:16] are in our schools now that we have to
[1:25:18] do that but I you know teaching students
[1:25:21] how to use Narcan hopefully you know if it saves one life
[1:25:26] it but it's it's like when you make a
[1:25:29] great you try to do something to help
[1:25:31] there's
[1:25:32] you're they're always one move ahead of
[1:25:34] you and what they're going the other
[1:25:35] direction but anyway
[1:25:37] we had uh 540 total students get trained
[1:25:41] to administer Narcan 162 Choi High
[1:25:44] School 292 at Marion senior and 86
[1:25:47] Northwood High School so
[1:25:49] hopefully and I appreciate Dr Carter and
[1:25:53] also Linda Austin
[1:25:54] who's with Appalachian substance abuse
[1:25:58] coalition to help that did
[1:26:01] help get this foot together and my wife
[1:26:04] Kim helped do a whole lot with it and
[1:26:05] also Susan hope and our director of
[1:26:07] nursing so
[1:26:08] I think that was a good thing and great
[1:26:11] participation of the sheriff's
[1:26:12] department and so many Community
[1:26:13] agencies were there to help out and like
[1:26:17] I said I think the kids I mean we like
[1:26:19] it went really appreciate what they
[1:26:22] learned and so I think it was a real
[1:26:24] good thing
[1:26:26] um also looking forward to EMS to the
[1:26:29] training center opening and I think
[1:26:31] it'll be and I'm hoping that we can all
[1:26:33] go down and visit as soon as it gets
[1:26:35] open because uh
[1:26:37] for those that have taken a visit back
[1:26:39] when it was just about halfway finished
[1:26:40] the thought process that went in
[1:26:44] designing it is amazing and I think
[1:26:47] you're going to be amazed at what you
[1:26:48] see and what a functional building that
[1:26:52] um so and I think it'll be a great help
[1:26:54] to our fire and EMS people in Smith
[1:26:56] County
[1:26:57] uh also of ours already had the
[1:27:00] opportunity to go by Courtney's house
[1:27:01] and see his Christmas lights if you
[1:27:04] haven't done that I suggest you do so
[1:27:07] yes and he takes all over yes that's
[1:27:09] right
[1:27:11] yes
[1:27:14] [Laughter]
[1:27:21] they're not on right now because of my
[1:27:24] operating system
[1:27:27] and uh it in case you don't know we had
[1:27:30] a long talk about corgis Christmas
[1:27:31] lights coming back from Richmond
[1:27:34] and uh
[1:27:37] we were able to show our appreciation
[1:27:38] and thank
[1:27:39] people because I think people when you
[1:27:41] do show them it's appreciating the job
[1:27:43] they do day in doubt I'm glad we will do
[1:27:45] that for the County Employees they'll do a much better job and I think
[1:27:49] anybody that's that's shown appreciation
[1:27:52] will do that I think it's so we're just glad that we can make a small
[1:27:57] token of our appreciation to them and I
[1:28:00] also like to reiterate what we said
[1:28:02] earlier Merry Christmas to everyone and please observe the true reason for
[1:28:07] Christmas and I think that uh that's the
[1:28:11] foundation of our country and I and I
[1:28:13] think that we need to stick by it thank
[1:28:15] you
[1:28:17] all righty I just
[1:28:20] Chris I thank you for thank you for
[1:28:22] being here tonight now that you have the
[1:28:24] last word thank you Mr chairman I didn't
[1:28:28] originally plan on being here I was
[1:28:30] planning on getting out of here to go to
[1:28:31] DC to spend Christmas with my family my
[1:28:33] oldest son and children so I don't have
[1:28:36] any pre-prepared remarks other than to
[1:28:38] thank the staff for all the hard work
[1:28:40] and again thank the county
[1:28:43] and town and uh employees and we do
[1:28:46] appreciate everything that's done on
[1:28:49] that level and just again to remember
[1:28:52] the reason for the season
[1:28:54] that's all I have to say all right thank
[1:28:56] you thank you
[1:28:58] I lied
[1:29:01] right I do want to say that I can't tell
[1:29:04] you how many employees have reached out
[1:29:06] to me specifically and hopefully to the
[1:29:08] board members about the bonus and
[1:29:11] thanking everybody so I just want to
[1:29:13] make sure that everybody half the
[1:29:15] employees have have reached out somehow
[1:29:17] some ways yes
[1:29:19] very appreciative of what Ward's done
[1:29:22] I'd like to say one of and I will say
[1:29:24] something else that I've noticed you all
[1:29:25] spearheaded a lot is is some cookouts
[1:29:28] and meal progresses things you've all
[1:29:30] done I think that's great thank you reminder tomorrow
[1:29:43] sometime come to the courthouse come
[1:29:46] visit us
[1:29:47] and your friend he'll keep me huh I do
[1:29:51] but I can't get past security
[1:29:53] work out something but that also means a
[1:29:58] great deal Charlie and Chris have
[1:30:01] recently come by and and
[1:30:04] please it means a lot to feel like we're
[1:30:07] part of a team
[1:30:08] for way too long years ago we were not
[1:30:12] teams I feel like now our Administration
[1:30:15] and the courthouse are working together
[1:30:18] and we thank you absolutely thank you in
[1:30:21] response to that Sarah I I feel like we
[1:30:23] as board members we can't really govern
[1:30:25] properly if we don't know what people
[1:30:28] are doing in the courthouse you know I
[1:30:30] tend to drive at least once a quarter I
[1:30:32] don't know if you've noticed I stopped
[1:30:33] in at John's officer I'll even pop in
[1:30:36] see Roy and see what's going on in his
[1:30:37] just to say hi and let them know we know
[1:30:40] who they are and they know who we are
[1:30:42] and it just keeps Communication open it
[1:30:45] means world of difference I'll even get
[1:30:47] back to vaults every now and then see if
[1:30:48] they're still alive back there
[1:30:53] all right I just remembered something
[1:30:55] else I'm sorry
[1:30:56] I don't remember this being mentioned
[1:30:58] during the public hearing that email
[1:31:00] that came from Debbie Thomas John
[1:31:02] Edmondson and the Harris Lane neighbors
[1:31:04] does that need to be that letter need to
[1:31:06] be read for the record that was emailed
[1:31:08] I don't think I know about it
[1:31:11] can I read that in board
[1:31:14] with the expansion supervisor time and
[1:31:17] do what you want to draw it down but can
[1:31:19] I have it and I'll read it really
[1:31:20] quickly because I think it's important
[1:31:21] okay this is to the Smith County Board
[1:31:24] of Supervisors from Debbie Thomas John
[1:31:25] Edmonston and the Harris Lane neighbors
[1:31:27] uh this is in reference to the noise
[1:31:30] ordinance due to Prior scaling
[1:31:32] appointment John and I cannot attend the
[1:31:34] Thursday December 8th meeting in Smith
[1:31:35] County Florida supervisors meeting
[1:31:37] however we would like to address an
[1:31:38] issue of a noise ordinance and
[1:31:41] unreasonable noise is defined as noise
[1:31:43] that unreasonably and substantially
[1:31:45] interferes with the use or enjoyment of
[1:31:47] a home and or injures health or is
[1:31:50] likely to enter health for residential
[1:31:52] environments any noise exceeding 70 DB
[1:31:54] is considered disturbing we have tried
[1:31:57] to bring about an ordinance for years
[1:31:59] because of the problems we and our
[1:32:01] neighbors have incurred but to no avail
[1:32:02] in the neighborhood there are buildings
[1:32:04] structures that produce radios played to
[1:32:07] top volume drop is being played so loud
[1:32:09] it rattles the windows loud cars and
[1:32:12] motorcycles allow people dogs barking
[1:32:14] fireworks ignited within close proximity
[1:32:16] of houses and people cursing according
[1:32:19] to code Virginia Section 15.2-80 civil
[1:32:23] penalties for violations employees
[1:32:24] ordinances any locality made by
[1:32:26] ordinance adopt a uniform schedule of
[1:32:28] civil penalties for violations of that
[1:32:31] locality's noise ordinance this
[1:32:33] provision shall not apply to noise
[1:32:34] generated in connection with the
[1:32:36] business being performed of on
[1:32:38] industrial property civil fines will not
[1:32:41] exceed 250 for the first offense and 500
[1:32:43] for each subsequent offense the locality
[1:32:46] May authorize the chief law enforcement
[1:32:48] officer to enforce any civil penalties
[1:32:50] adopted pursuant to the provisions of
[1:32:52] the section the provisions of this
[1:32:54] section shall not apply to railroads no
[1:32:56] ordinance of any locality shall apply to
[1:32:58] sound emanating from any area permitted
[1:33:01] by the Virginia Department of energy or
[1:33:03] any division thereof we are requesting
[1:33:05] that you as a board Implement and or
[1:33:07] enforce a noise ordinance for the Harris
[1:33:09] Lane residential area and other areas
[1:33:11] that citizens of Smith County request
[1:33:13] thank you for your time and
[1:33:14] consideration
[1:33:15] I mean I wanted to read that for the
[1:33:17] record and I will forward that to you
[1:33:20] all right now thank you Lord FYI you get
[1:33:23] 60 days for stopping I miss you oh thank
[1:33:26] you I was trying my very best to try to
[1:33:29] stay around the 80 range which is
[1:33:31] typically what happens but fortunately
[1:33:33] if we pass our new ordinance that's out
[1:33:35] we don't have to worry about the decimal
[1:33:37] benefits if I didn't like hearing it
[1:33:39] it's offensive to me
[1:33:42] all righty anything else anybody else
[1:33:44] want to comment down for me go into the
[1:33:47] closed session I do have a comment and I
[1:33:49] probably not a comment but I need to ask
[1:33:51] you about if I need to do this in closed
[1:33:53] session or Open Session
[1:34:07] and I meant to do this earlier uh we
[1:34:10] need to get on the ball as far as
[1:34:12] Paul apologize but solar facilities and
[1:34:17] eyes are the meeting the first week and
[1:34:18] our agricultural Community frowns Upon
[1:34:21] Us column solar Farms
[1:34:23] they're solar facilities they some other
[1:34:26] word but not a solar farm nothing's
[1:34:29] being raised
[1:34:30] whether you know it or not we have six
[1:34:33] or eight pieces of property in Rich
[1:34:34] Valley that have already been
[1:34:36] deeded over and development has started
[1:34:39] as a solar facilities
[1:34:41] we need to get some ordinance in place
[1:34:43] as to how revenue is generated
[1:34:47] because once it becomes a solar facility
[1:34:52] we no longer can tax them like another
[1:34:54] piece of property they become utility
[1:34:55] property taxed by the state a lot less
[1:34:58] from it we get a lot less than you would
[1:35:00] if we is farmland
[1:35:03] so if we don't get on the ball we're
[1:35:05] going to be under the ball
[1:35:07] with nothing that we can do about it
[1:35:09] so I would encourage us to let's move
[1:35:11] forward on this quickly I will say that
[1:35:14] we have every attention of having an
[1:35:16] ordinance Committee in January with a
[1:35:19] draft solar ordinance for for the
[1:35:22] Warriors committee's room review
[1:35:23] absolutely and I apologize for not
[1:35:26] getting this to you earlier but I'm
[1:35:27] going through this it popped in down I
[1:35:29] gotta make notes anymore and I just I
[1:35:32] want to just be sure and say that we
[1:35:33] needed to because it can be a good thing
[1:35:35] for us if the neighbors are happy with
[1:35:38] but it can be a bad thing if it's
[1:35:40] neighbors aren't happy with it
[1:35:44] I just like to say I think
[1:35:46] [Music]
[1:35:49] ing things like that and I think that's
[1:35:51] a direction that we go in and I agree
[1:35:54] 100 with what you said chart that we
[1:35:56] need to get this done done quickly
[1:36:01] all right I haven't said that if no one
[1:36:03] else has got any comments I will move us
[1:36:05] into a
[1:36:07] closed session with a proper motion Mr
[1:36:10] chairman I would like to make a motion
[1:36:12] to enter into closed session undercover
[1:36:14] Virginia Section
[1:36:16] 2.2-3711a3 discussion of consideration
[1:36:19] of the acquisition of real property for
[1:36:21] public purpose or of the disposition of
[1:36:23] publicly held real property regarding
[1:36:26] the transfer station update and Swift
[1:36:28] assignments agreement
[1:36:31] and then a second second those in favor
[1:36:34] say aye uh
[1:36:36] [Music]
[1:36:38] sorry to kick you out bye now
[1:36:44] and thank the newspaper for being here
[1:36:47] you found who we are thank you Mr thank
[1:36:49] you Merry Christmas