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It's 5. Oops. It is 5 o'clock and we are
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going to call the meeting to order with
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first a roll call.
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Paula Whitford
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>> here.
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>> Michelle Brusso
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>> here.
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>> Kate Masinati
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>> here.
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>> James Dustivo
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>> here.
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>> And I Carol Veter I mean here.
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This the school committee committee may
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speak to recess to executive session for
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discussion and or action regarding those
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items of business exempt from open
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meetings under general uh Rhode Island
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general law 42464
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and a discussion action personnel job
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performance interim chief financial
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officer contract Rhode Island general
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law 42465A1
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and B discussion action personnel job
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performance superintendent out annual
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UAL evaluation Rhode Island General Law
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42465A1
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individuals have been notified including
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the right to have any discussion held in
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open session.
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>> I'll make a motion to resess to
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executive session.
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>> Second.
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>> All those in favor?
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>> I. Motion passes.
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Good evening.
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We're going to call the open session of
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the meeting to order at 6:02.
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We're going to start with a roll call.
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» Paula Whitford
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>> here.
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>> Michelle Brusso
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>> here.
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>> Kate Masinady
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>> here.
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>> James Divo
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>> here. and I Carol better am here.
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Please join me in the pledge of
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allegiance.
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Do I have a motion to seal the minutes
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of the executive session?
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>> I'll make a motion to seal the minutes
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of the executive session.
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>> All those in favor?
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>> I.
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>> That motion carries. There were no votes
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taken in executive session. Next up,
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comments from the community.
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» Nothing.
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All right. Does anybody want to come to
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the podium? Anybody?
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All right. Seeing none, we will close
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public comment.
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That will bring us to the consent
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agenda.
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>> I'll make a motion to approve the
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consent agenda.
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>> All those in favor?
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>> I.
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>> That motion passes.
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All right. Now we have the
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superintendent report. I'll turn it over
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to the superintendent.
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>> Thank you, Madam Chair. Good evening,
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everyone. Um
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sent posted.
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So we have uh three items on the
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personnel report or excuse me on the
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superintendent report report. The first
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is the personnel report which
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isformational information only. uh would
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like to formally welcome our new
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faculty, staff, and administration. Uh
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as well as uh just let the committee
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know about the most recent memo uh that
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was received by the district uh that
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will affect FY27 moving and uh moving
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forward uh and that is the CTE tuition
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calculation and the guidance that RIDE
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is being given. Next slide, please.
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So we have a uh slew of personnel
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actions uh lots of hiring uh going on.
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Our principles, HR, um interview
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committees have done a fantastic job uh
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bringing in people to the district.
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Additionally, uh we've had some folks uh
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who have let us know about a leave of
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absence or who have also let us know uh
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about an upcoming retirement that is
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occurring in this school year. um and
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which is while we don't like to see them
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go, it uh is appreciated when we have
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that so we can get it uh get coverage in
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advance or start planning for that uh
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months in advance. So um
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next slide.
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So this was as of uh last week. So to
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put some names with some of those
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positions that uh have that are joining
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us this coming school year and in many
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cases beyond. Uh we welcome Greg
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Shereest. We welcome Jennifer Sappy,
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Alyssa Edsanti, Emily Raymond Griffin,
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Jonathan Kenny, Alen Texera, Sarah
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Ellie, Benjamin Hamill, Cody Pod
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Podaworni, Jennifer Gilbert, Monica
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Andrews, and Elias Benson. uh those are
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just uh those members who are joining
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our uh our NEASK uh bargaining units. So
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uh we welcome them to the district. Uh
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actually new teacher orientation will be
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actually this Friday here uh in the
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South Kingtown High School library. Uh
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and then with orientation uh next
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Monday. Next slide.
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I'd also like to welcome for from SKSP
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we have Danielle Harris, Jessica Dh
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Duca, uh Lindseay Monteneeri, Andrea
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Dion, and also uh welcome to their newer
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roles even though these folks have been
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with us. uh Gina Habberlin as principal
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of Broad Rock Middle School, AJ Sherman
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welcoming back as athletic director,
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Brandon Pierce as assistant principal
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here at the high school, Mary Serber uh
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who served last year uh as an interim
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basis as our preschool coordinator, uh
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Corey Lennon uh most recently uh as the
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appointed Broadck uh middle school
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assistant principal. Uh and I left off
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here because he was actually appointed
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pretty early on at the end of last
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school year. U but Mr. Joe Adams also
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I'd like to to welcome to the district
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and welcome uh to those folks the vast
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majority of whom in terms of
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administration um are depending on who
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you ask moving up or moving down through
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the ranks to join the administration. Um
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so we welcome them and look forward to
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supporting them uh everyone this
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upcoming school year. Next slide please.
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So on the new ride guidance um
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previously this now this applies just to
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CTE.
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Um,
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previously Ry
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stated that
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for CTE calculations, each district gave
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over their per pupil
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rate and in some cases depending on the
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students if they uh were from if they
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were student in poverty or experiencing
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poverty there was a bump up on that
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calculation. Um, but they basically
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would give us a chart based off of what
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we spent locally and as the saying used
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to be known as the money follows then
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the child.
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However, um this is being challenged. Um
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Warwick public schools has asked Ry for
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a uh a judgment about uh not only this
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upcoming school year but previous school
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years. Um and it is because of that uh
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decision which is also being appealed at
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this time that RIDE has given guidance
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um for this upcoming school year that
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differs significantly from previous
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years. Um, and I put that in quotes. So
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ultimately, I won't read it to you, um,
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but essentially when it used to be a
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flat rate that would go over there or on
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a a quarterly basis, now it is the
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average of both the sending and
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receiving district.
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It is based off of a formula that ride
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now calculates that is different than
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what it previously calculated in that it
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takes out the tu it doesn't calculate
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the the tuition coming into the
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district. It removes that. Additionally,
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it does not take into account uh student
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demographics
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uh factors such as again students
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experiencing poverty. So the potential,
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you know, I uh the potential for this
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depending on where our students go to
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CTE as well as our students who are
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coming to us from CTE. So not only on
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the expense side, I'm highlighting the
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expense because currently our expense
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far outweighs our revenue for CTE
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currently. However, uh that it's going
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to affect that as well. So next slide,
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please.
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So, I did link every uh district's CTE
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rate as promulgated by RIDE. South
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Kingtown's next year is 27,260.
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If we were to just take that in previous
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years, well, that would have been the
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publish late rate that followed a child
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wherever they went.
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However, when we now start averaging,
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Naragansit's per pupil rate as uh
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promulgated by ride is 34,352.
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So, we then have to take the 45 students
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that as of the 19th were slated to go to
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Naragansit.
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Again, previously that would be
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approximately $1.2 million. the new
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because we're now averaging there's
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approximately oh there's over a $3,000
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bump and so we are looking at again a
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difference of $159,000
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570
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for cheroo that is our next largest CTE
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expense again here because the average
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is lower pre this the formula works in
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our benefit rather than just
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distributing the 27260
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previously it now breaks down to the new
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of being 255 and again uh I put North
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Kingtown and Cranston. So there are some
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circumstances where we benefit uh from
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this formula. Uh however uh due to the
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per pupil of Naragansit and the sheer
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number of students that we currently
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send there um we do not break even
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currently if this were to to go through.
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>> Can I ask a couple questions please? Um,
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so this formula is I know Warwick was
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actually looking to recoup money from
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prior years. Is there is this only going
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forward or is there any
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>> this is only RID's guidance for this
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school year moving forward how they
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expect every district in the state to
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now calculate their CTE tuition rates
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going back? That is still under appeal.
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>> Okay. Um do we know how many students
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yet are enrolling in the these other
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high schools for the coming year? Do you
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have an idea?
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>> Um so those uh those students that are
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listed there are as of last week. So I
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I've downloaded that data. So that is
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our current um as of last week the
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number of students who are enrolled in
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out of district CTE. I don't have the
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number that are coming that are
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guaranteed coming into us yet. Do we
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know if these those numbers are going up
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or down?
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>> I I did not do a comparison versus last
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year that
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>> Could you Could you get that to us
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because that's I really want to know. I
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mean it we're all hopeful that we're
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stemming the tide. So I just really
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would like to see that.
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>> Absolutely. Thank you.
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>> Absolutely. Is this does this account
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for all students going to other
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districts or these are just for
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examples? um as of right now this so
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this the only other uh would be charter
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schools that again aren't under this
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formula
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» miss better thank you for your question
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that clarified one question that I had
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um however I I would like to know if any
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of these students
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um
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uh experiencing
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homelessness and how would that impact
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the
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program?
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>> So, in terms of if a student were
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experiencing homelessness, um in terms
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of the funding formula that RIDE is
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using, there is no bump up or bump down.
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The their ability to stay in this
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program would fall under McKenna Vento.
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um that few few months ago that we
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updated that policy uh extensively. So,
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uh, if a student were, uh, a South
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Kingtown student experiencing
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homelessness and going to a CTE, um,
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assuming that the best interest
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determination is to stay in these, uh,
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school of origin, even though we are the
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school of origin and they were attending
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a CTE, that would we would continue to
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uh, incur that tuition cost.
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You're welcome.
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>> So, you said this is being um healed. Is
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that correct?
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>> The formal Yes. The formal the final
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rule the ruling that the commissioner
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came out with because what they what
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ride did and I will ask um in a future
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meeting for attorney SOA to come on in
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who can speak to it uh more eloquently
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as well as we're paying him to represent
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us. Um my understanding is is that uh in
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RID's ruling they were asking everybody
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to ple let's just move forward.
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Everybody w everybody was doing this
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formula wrong. So there was one portion
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of the law that said do it this way. And
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actually you have some districts that
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got together made regional agreements
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and based on this ruling it was no you
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can't do that. And hey guys we're all in
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this together. We're all making the same
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mistakes moving forward. We're going to
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use this portion of the law and ride
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will promulgate this and this is how
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we're going to do it based on that
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section of the law. That piece is being
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appealed. So in terms of the the
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look back and the potential fiscal
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impact of that appeal, uh I can't say
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right now.
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It just strikes me as a it strikes me
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like initially, yeah, if we were if we
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were navigating only three of these four
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districts like, oh wow, this is this is
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good for us, but it's clearly not. Um
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with a with a higher cost
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uh district that we that we are sending
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to. Um, it just strikes me that the
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sending school district is fiscally
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penalized for sending a student to a
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lower enrollment school district because
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by having lower enrollment, the per
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pupil expenditure is increased. So, um,
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it's easy for me to just sit here and
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say that's not fair, but it doesn't feel
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fair.
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>> Yes.
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>> I just want to say that out loud. Not
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that we need to do anything about it,
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but I'm just saying that it's like it's it's
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um be it's like we're being again we're
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being penalized because one of the our receiving districts um have low
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lower enrollment and so it just seems
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like an odd calculation.
[1:23:47]
>> I mean I think this speaks to broader
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needs around the funding formula
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changing and and how how we fund
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education in the state from the from
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this from the top level down. Um, and I think it's, you know, important as as
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committee to continue to have those
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conversations, continue to maybe even
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look at resolutions that could help move
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the need at the state house. Um, so I
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think things to come into the future to
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talk about, but as far as this goes, I
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agree with you. It's not really fair
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given this breakdown. Um, it is
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unfortunate.
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Um, I think
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um I I agree with what Miss Massing and
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Mr. Steo said about like, yeah, it's
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going to cost us $60,000 more. Um, but
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if you recall, and I am not going to be
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able to pull these numbers off the top
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of my head, my brain is not that good.
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But when I went to the Rhode Island
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Association of School Committees annual
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meeting, we had that um presenter from
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um can't remember who she represented,
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but they worked together with the Rhode
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Island Foundation and um did some moving
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around of the funding formula
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um whereby they were
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going to begin to include
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transportation. And they were calling it
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um
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not
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they they changed the wording of what
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they were calling it so that
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transportation became an integral part
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of educating a child.
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And the ultimate goal was to get
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um like a flat percentage across the
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state.
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Um
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and the the city or town, the
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municipality would pay a certain
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percentage and the state would pay
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another percentage and that would be the
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you know the same across the state. So
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we would get that same percentage as
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narrow dancer. Um
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and what I have heard
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um is that the general assembly is
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looking at this and thinking in terms of
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phasing that in but they are definitely
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looking at that seriously. Now is that
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going to help us next year with this
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extra $67,000?
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No. And Mr. for jobs told me that the
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money tree didn't grow any money because
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they're coming from the back of the
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admin. So, I mean, that's at least
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something we we can look forward to
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things um getting a little better.
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» It highlights the other goal of um
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keeping our students.
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So instead of having 45 students choose
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to go here and 19 students choose to go
[1:27:03]
there, we would have them stay here. So
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» did did you have anything else?
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>> Nope. just once again that this is
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something that we will be navigating
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both in terms of moving forward the ride
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rulings as well as as we get into FY27
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and talk about both revenue, expenses,
[1:27:28]
enrollment. This is going to be an
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ongoing uh conversation and some
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significantly different calculations
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than we're used to in the past.
[1:27:38]
>> I do like your suggestion of bringing
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Mr. SOA in. I just wanted I'm a little
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concerned about the exposure if they go
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back in time because in prior years we
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sent even more children to narance it.
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So there could be exposure there. So I
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think that is a good idea to talk to Mr.
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SOA and just maybe see where thing what
[1:28:02]
maybe he feels like the outcome might
[1:28:03]
be. So anyway um thank you for
[1:28:06]
explaining that.
[1:28:07]
>> Thank you.
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Do I have a motion to accept the
[1:28:10]
superintendent report?
[1:28:13]
>> I make a motion to accept the
[1:28:16]
superintendent report as presented.
[1:28:19]
>> Second.
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>> All those in favor? I
[1:28:21]
>> That motion passes.
[1:28:24]
That will bring us to school committee
[1:28:26]
business a discussion action approval of
[1:28:29]
interim chief financial officer
[1:28:31]
contract.
[1:28:35]
We have a motion to accept the contract
[1:28:36]
as presented by the superintendent.
[1:28:38]
>> I'll make a motion to approve the
[1:28:40]
interim chief financial officer contract
[1:28:42]
as presented uh by the superintendent.
[1:28:44]
>> Second.
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>> All those in favor?
[1:28:47]
>> I.
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>> That motion passes.
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We want to welcome Mr. Tony Fucci as our
[1:28:54]
interim which will lead us uh right into
[1:28:57]
our next one. B discussion action fiscal
[1:29:00]
year 2027 recommended plan to meet state
[1:29:04]
financial reporting requirements.
[1:29:07]
>> Welcome back.
[1:29:11]
>> It's like a revolving door around here.
[1:29:15]
>> Hopefully not. Um good evening, Madam
[1:29:18]
Chair, members of the committee. Mr.
[1:29:20]
Superintendent, um I'm I'm proud to
[1:29:22]
become a temporary member of the
[1:29:25]
community. Um I think you've come
[1:29:28]
strides ahead from where we first
[1:29:31]
started a couple of years back. Um so
[1:29:33]
while we have a slight setback in
[1:29:35]
personnel um I think we've got an
[1:29:37]
opportunity to engage and reset the
[1:29:39]
district for further gains. So I'm very
[1:29:41]
excited about however I can assist uh
[1:29:43]
with that process. So thank you for not
[1:29:45]
confidence in that. Thank you. Um I do
[1:29:49]
have a number of items this evening for
[1:29:50]
you. I'll try and get through relatively
[1:29:53]
quickly and happy to answer any
[1:29:54]
questions. First up is the uh the state
[1:29:58]
has issued um further clarity and most
[1:30:02]
importantly
[1:30:04]
um the requirement of communities to
[1:30:08]
report consistently on a monthly basis
[1:30:10]
and these regs that have been in place
[1:30:12]
for a number of years now but it's been
[1:30:14]
kind of more along the lines of how
[1:30:16]
communities have communicated with the
[1:30:18]
public. So, they're looking for more
[1:30:20]
consistency. And so, um, with my
[1:30:23]
arrival, I was introduced to a letter
[1:30:25]
that was dated August 5th, 2026
[1:30:29]
from the auditor general's office
[1:30:31]
highlighting, um, the necessity to start
[1:30:34]
reporting in a standardized basis on a
[1:30:36]
monthly basis. And so, we've been in
[1:30:38]
meetings with the town and they've
[1:30:40]
making some modifications to accommodate
[1:30:43]
all the requirements that are
[1:30:44]
articulated in your document. Um, we're
[1:30:48]
aligning ourselves with the town and
[1:30:51]
what I have before you this evening is a
[1:30:53]
recommendation that we've got a temp
[1:30:55]
particular template that will show those
[1:30:59]
um operations for the school, the
[1:31:01]
general fund, the capital fund, and a
[1:31:03]
school lunch fund in particular. And
[1:31:06]
what we should be doing is looking at
[1:31:07]
those monthly on a year-to- date budget
[1:31:10]
versus year-to- date actual. and then
[1:31:12]
any comments coming from administration
[1:31:15]
as to anything that they're aware of
[1:31:17]
that is potentially impacting the
[1:31:19]
budget. And so that's the highlight of
[1:31:22]
what they're trying to uh propose. If
[1:31:26]
districts get into a position where
[1:31:28]
they're projecting the possibility of
[1:31:30]
incurring deficits, uh the state does
[1:31:33]
require an action plan to be submitted
[1:31:35]
as to what the district is attempting to
[1:31:37]
do. And that also applicable at the
[1:31:39]
municipal level, but I'll say targeted
[1:31:40]
on the impact of the schools. So the
[1:31:44]
simplicity of what we're doing this
[1:31:46]
evening is the next report, which is
[1:31:48]
your monthly financial statement for
[1:31:51]
FY27. Now that we're almost two months
[1:31:54]
into the school year from a financial
[1:31:56]
perspective because it starts July 1st,
[1:31:58]
there's a new cover letter that will be
[1:32:01]
produced by the CFO myself until a new
[1:32:04]
person is appointed and it's broken down
[1:32:06]
with the the categorizations that I just
[1:32:08]
mentioned. And so that will become the
[1:32:10]
template I believe that you should
[1:32:12]
sustain. Most importantly, it's the
[1:32:16]
requirement of maintaining the comments
[1:32:20]
on the three issues of general fund
[1:32:24]
budget, your capital fund budget and
[1:32:26]
your operational budget for the school
[1:32:29]
lunch because the school lunch if it
[1:32:31]
operates in deficit of course the the
[1:32:33]
fund balance of the general fund would
[1:32:35]
also be applied to cover that that
[1:32:37]
operation. So that's why those three are
[1:32:40]
to be highlighted in spotlight. There's
[1:32:42]
some internal workings that have to take
[1:32:44]
place to do it on a regular basis. Um,
[1:32:46]
as you'll notice, some of the budgets
[1:32:47]
are not in um with regards to either the
[1:32:51]
capital fund or the school lunch fund.
[1:32:53]
Those will be caught off. But by having
[1:32:54]
a template in place and expectation in
[1:32:57]
place, then the compliance will follow.
[1:33:00]
So we've been very clear with the town
[1:33:03]
that the school committee will receive
[1:33:05]
these documents first and that way there
[1:33:08]
you can go through the details and
[1:33:10]
answer any questions etc. And at the
[1:33:13]
conclusion of your meetings and the
[1:33:14]
reports are accepted we would then send
[1:33:17]
over a copy of that report to the town
[1:33:20]
and that would be effective tomorrow. Um
[1:33:23]
and in turn they're required to post all
[1:33:25]
the town municipal reports for the
[1:33:27]
public for those folks to be able to
[1:33:29]
reference these reports on an as on an
[1:33:31]
ongoing basis going forward. And so your
[1:33:34]
reads wherever we're storing them now
[1:33:36]
for public access could be sustained.
[1:33:39]
But clearly the community will say we've
[1:33:41]
got them all. We've got the schools and
[1:33:42]
we've got the municipal budgets etc. um
[1:33:45]
and they comply with state law so that
[1:33:47]
they can be um compared and referenced
[1:33:50]
by the community down the road. Um there
[1:33:53]
are two or three other benchmarks with
[1:33:55]
regards to um annual budgets. Those two
[1:33:58]
would be then released on on the routine
[1:34:01]
basis and also a five-year projection. I
[1:34:03]
know we've been doing those types of
[1:34:05]
work, but this just codifies that it
[1:34:07]
will come before the school committee
[1:34:08]
before it's released for public
[1:34:10]
presentation through the town council, I
[1:34:13]
mean a town uh fiscal office uh process
[1:34:15]
they have in place. And I understand
[1:34:18]
that the finance director for the town
[1:34:20]
will be presenting something similar to
[1:34:22]
the town council um soon and so
[1:34:26]
everybody should be on board about
[1:34:27]
having these documents uh readily
[1:34:29]
available and um my office if I ask
[1:34:32]
questions about the public documents as
[1:34:34]
long as it's already been vetted by the
[1:34:36]
school committee we you would know what
[1:34:38]
would be the answers we would be driving
[1:34:40]
based on the documents that you have in
[1:34:42]
front of you and if something is missing
[1:34:44]
in your comments in the future I think
[1:34:46]
it behooves to make sure those kinds of
[1:34:48]
items get identified early in the
[1:34:50]
process and you have a format in which
[1:34:53]
that communication can take place and
[1:34:54]
just make sure those items come before
[1:34:57]
you on a regular basis. So it's a check
[1:34:59]
and balance for the system. So happy to
[1:35:02]
answer any questions um with regards to
[1:35:05]
our roll out.
[1:35:07]
So in regard to the templates,
[1:35:11]
um is this something each town is
[1:35:14]
developing their own template or is
[1:35:16]
there guide from the state?
[1:35:18]
>> This the town's basically the actual
[1:35:21]
format of the template that we have is
[1:35:22]
what the town is working on. And when I
[1:35:25]
reviewed how they were setting theirs
[1:35:27]
up, I just align what we're doing,
[1:35:29]
what's operationally is um consistent
[1:35:32]
for what they're viewing. And you'll
[1:35:34]
notice that there is a subsection for
[1:35:36]
our grants. Um, and that will be just in
[1:35:38]
totality because we all know grants
[1:35:40]
can't go over, they can't be overspent,
[1:35:42]
etc. Um, they're pretty tightly uh
[1:35:45]
managed. Um, so that's really should not
[1:35:48]
present a deficit style issue like your
[1:35:52]
operating budgets will potentially do.
[1:35:55]
So that's why the separation from our
[1:35:57]
perspective and what we're going to keep
[1:35:58]
our eye on. We want to acknowledge those
[1:36:00]
resources. If each town is developing
[1:36:02]
their own way of reporting, it still may
[1:36:07]
lead to not being able to directly
[1:36:09]
compare with other school districts. So,
[1:36:11]
it doesn't really shore up that
[1:36:14]
>> that may be the next part to see how
[1:36:16]
much they actually deviate, if they
[1:36:18]
actually do deviate or if everybody is
[1:36:20]
going to this style model of um what
[1:36:24]
types of funds are being highlighted um
[1:36:26]
across the state.
[1:36:28]
>> All right, great. Thanks. Other
[1:36:30]
questions?
[1:36:32]
an interesting question. Um because and
[1:36:36]
to piggyback on that, the three
[1:36:38]
categories that making up the template
[1:36:41]
is that those are the three categories
[1:36:43]
dictated by the state or is that what
[1:36:46]
the town is requesting?
[1:36:49]
the about my my read of the information
[1:36:52]
that you have in front of you is the
[1:36:55]
identification of those funds that may
[1:36:59]
potentially generate deficits and so
[1:37:01]
that you're on top of those. So the
[1:37:04]
definition of that type of fund is what
[1:37:06]
I personally and professionally brought
[1:37:08]
forward for your consideration. they're
[1:37:10]
the only three major funds that have
[1:37:11]
that opportunity that if there's a big
[1:37:14]
expenditure and you have to do it or
[1:37:16]
revenue is off significantly, it could
[1:37:18]
structurally undermine your um financial
[1:37:22]
position in the in the community. So
[1:37:24]
that's why I'm recommending those three
[1:37:26]
particular targets to be on your table.
[1:37:29]
>> And these uh reports are being generated
[1:37:31]
monthly. Um, I know and I may be um like
[1:37:37]
totally off base with my question here.
[1:37:40]
Um, or you can say that's not relevant
[1:37:42]
if if that's the case. But so I know
[1:37:44]
monthto-month
[1:37:46]
um there we have often had conversations
[1:37:48]
around certain expenditures that are
[1:37:51]
embargoed um or we don't have that
[1:37:54]
information yet. Um we'll know at the
[1:37:56]
end of you know June 31st or whatever it
[1:37:59]
is. um will that be clear in the report
[1:38:03]
or is that not a factor?
[1:38:06]
>> I think the month-to-month
[1:38:08]
um is an opportunity to hear things
[1:38:11]
targeted. Um as a side recommendation
[1:38:15]
from my personal experience in the
[1:38:17]
districts I I was involved with and I've
[1:38:19]
been speaking the superintendent about
[1:38:20]
it and maybe a presentation in the
[1:38:22]
future with regard to this item. Um, but
[1:38:26]
I always made it a practice in the
[1:38:27]
districts that I served was to actually
[1:38:30]
have a yearend rejection prepared
[1:38:35]
specifically for the month of November
[1:38:37]
and again for the month of February. And
[1:38:40]
what that would in fact be is a uh
[1:38:44]
indepth analysis of expenses. And the
[1:38:48]
target of November and February
[1:38:51]
is along the lines of when school opens
[1:38:54]
and you have too many students and you
[1:38:57]
need a kindergarten teacher, you have to
[1:38:58]
hire the teacher. There's no getting
[1:39:00]
around it and that always creates
[1:39:02]
anxiety. And who retires in August that
[1:39:05]
we didn't know about and what do we got
[1:39:07]
to hire and did if we had retirements
[1:39:09]
and we planned on they'd be hiring
[1:39:11]
teachers at second step did that
[1:39:12]
actually take place all those kinds of
[1:39:14]
things which have dramatic impact on
[1:39:15]
budgets. I was a firm believer that for
[1:39:19]
the most part the operational expenses
[1:39:21]
should be relatively
[1:39:23]
aligned with budget if you do your
[1:39:25]
budget properly going into your each
[1:39:28]
year but your staffing is the the b
[1:39:31]
biggest significant expense. So give us
[1:39:34]
a report that says from July 1st through
[1:39:37]
October 1st how much did you actually
[1:39:39]
spend in staff expenses
[1:39:42]
in the middle of October or early
[1:39:44]
November. Now that the staff has settled
[1:39:46]
down, your teachers are in, your
[1:39:48]
administration is in, etc., and you've
[1:39:51]
got 22 payrolls between now and the end
[1:39:54]
of the school year, use physical
[1:39:56]
evidence times numbers of people in that
[1:40:00]
times the dollars paid on a typical
[1:40:02]
salary. Come up with what those expenses
[1:40:05]
will be added to each line in your
[1:40:07]
budget. It's an in-depth analysis, but
[1:40:10]
it's real. You really then at that point
[1:40:13]
in November may have one or two openings
[1:40:15]
or you may know somebody's retiring in
[1:40:18]
December and you can make minor slight
[1:40:20]
adjustments but it's not going to be the
[1:40:22]
magnitude of over hundreds of thousands.
[1:40:24]
It'll be 20,000 here, 50,000 there, but
[1:40:26]
you tweak it and I used to stand my
[1:40:29]
reputation on how accurate we were in
[1:40:33]
November and then again in February.
[1:40:36]
That provides you two things. one,
[1:40:39]
you're on target and maintaining a
[1:40:41]
balanced budget. Two, if you have an
[1:40:44]
issue, you've got time in front of you
[1:40:45]
to make necessary adjustments so that
[1:40:47]
you can come in on budget. And three, it
[1:40:51]
answers the question, what's our
[1:40:52]
financial position as you go into the
[1:40:55]
discussion of next year's budget? and not knowing those elements I think
[1:41:01]
sets up well if we're not sure and we're
[1:41:03]
not sure it just it undermines the
[1:41:06]
credibility of what you need when it
[1:41:08]
comes time to talk about next year. So I
[1:41:11]
highly be happy to create a
[1:41:14]
recommendation documenting this if
[1:41:16]
community thinks it's worthwhile
[1:41:17]
considering um for another time and
[1:41:20]
place.
[1:41:20]
it kind it will definitely align with um
[1:41:24]
what we're currently doing and once you
[1:41:26]
receive that I would say release that
[1:41:29]
publicly. This this is something where
[1:41:30]
you're building credibility by doing
[1:41:32]
this process. And in the $90 million a
[1:41:35]
year budget that I was managing, if I
[1:41:38]
was off by two or $300,000, I would get
[1:41:41]
upset. But the community is like, well,
[1:41:43]
this is much better than where we were
[1:41:44]
two and three years ago out of 90
[1:41:46]
million $50 million of salary alone. And
[1:41:50]
the wildness of what the projections
[1:41:53]
were that we were hearing is markedly
[1:41:55]
improved. And so I offer that as a
[1:41:58]
potential consideration in the future.
[1:42:00]
>> Thank you for for sharing that because I
[1:42:02]
also think that aligns with the
[1:42:04]
direction that this particular body is
[1:42:06]
has been kind of demanding we go forward
[1:42:10]
with starting this year already. So
[1:42:13]
thank you for that.
[1:42:16]
>> I'd be interested in other
[1:42:18]
recommendations as well.
[1:42:21]
I agree with Miss Masani and um Mr. Fury
[1:42:27]
if you wouldn't mind like setting that
[1:42:30]
plan in motion so that it can be
[1:42:36]
um like organized
[1:42:40]
um going forward. Um I would greatly
[1:42:43]
appreciate it and I think probably have
[1:42:45]
agreement here at the table. Um, so this
[1:42:50]
I I want to make sure that I I have this
[1:42:53]
straight. This monthly report, you're
[1:42:57]
going to use you and the town are going
[1:42:59]
to use the same template.
[1:43:02]
>> That's correct.
[1:43:03]
>> And and their report is going to be
[1:43:06]
separate. Correct. Ours is go Okay. and
[1:43:09]
we're going to send that report to the
[1:43:13]
town and they will take care of sending
[1:43:16]
it to the auditor general. I think
[1:43:18]
that's where it's gone.
[1:43:20]
>> The auditor general is requiring
[1:43:22]
communication whenever there is a um a
[1:43:26]
potential issue. So, if we've identified
[1:43:28]
a potential issue, then you're sending
[1:43:29]
the report with potential issue. And
[1:43:32]
what they're also expecting is an action
[1:43:35]
plan to address whatever that issue is.
[1:43:37]
And so that's when it would have to go.
[1:43:39]
I would recommend that the district make
[1:43:42]
sure it gets to the auditor general, be
[1:43:44]
it the district can send it up or the
[1:43:46]
town could. The town's really more
[1:43:49]
organizing and providing that public
[1:43:52]
access to all the town records in one
[1:43:54]
spot. So if somebody's interested in
[1:43:55]
town finance and school finance, they
[1:43:57]
can look in one spot rather than going
[1:43:58]
over to the website for the school
[1:44:00]
department and then go find something
[1:44:01]
and how it might be set up differently.
[1:44:03]
But I think they're going to do
[1:44:04]
something at the town to have it at the
[1:44:06]
top of their website pile so it'll be an
[1:44:08]
easy find for the public in the near
[1:44:10]
future.
[1:44:11]
>> And is that monthly report going to come
[1:44:14]
to this body also?
[1:44:16]
>> I could request a copy if you wish or I wanted to get you folks instructions
[1:44:21]
at least to where they're going to be
[1:44:23]
found. So if you wanted to find it so I
[1:44:25]
could bring one over as a template to
[1:44:27]
show it and then give the direction if
[1:44:29]
you want it monthly from them. I know
[1:44:31]
where you could swap, but if you know
[1:44:32]
where to find it and it's easy enough to
[1:44:34]
find, we can have that conversation. I'm
[1:44:36]
happy to follow up with the town of
[1:44:37]
Finance Director on that particular
[1:44:38]
question.
[1:44:39]
>> Well, I don't know what the rest of the
[1:44:41]
school committee thinks, but we kind of
[1:44:45]
get a monthly
[1:44:48]
um financial report. And if the
[1:44:51]
superintendent
[1:44:53]
um and the assistant superintendent
[1:44:55]
think that this template would give us
[1:44:59]
similar
[1:45:00]
um information,
[1:45:02]
then certainly we could have that report
[1:45:07]
um instead. But I really like your
[1:45:11]
November and February.
[1:45:15]
» Thank you.
[1:45:15]
Mr. Purch. Yeah, I I'm in
[1:45:18]
total agreement on the November and
[1:45:20]
February uh reporting of where we are
[1:45:22]
kind of checkpoints on on overall budget
[1:45:24]
and I would agree with Mr. Gau about the
[1:45:27]
um this monthly report maybe being in
[1:45:30]
addition to the monthly report we
[1:45:31]
already got. I think it just it it's
[1:45:34]
showing the thinking behind if there's
[1:45:36]
going to be a a variance or or deficit
[1:45:39]
of some kind, what's the plan to fix it?
[1:45:41]
That's something we all need to know as
[1:45:42]
well. Also, I think it'll be very
[1:45:43]
important for us to to see that as well,
[1:45:46]
even if it is in addition to the
[1:45:47]
reporting we already got.
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» I just really think it's a great way a
[1:45:59]
great a great way forward
[1:46:03]
and rebuilding trust with the town and
[1:46:05]
the community at large. Um, and I look
[1:46:10]
forward to that.
[1:46:12]
um November and February report to help
[1:46:17]
us in our budget process which as Kate
[1:46:21]
alluded to we all agreed that you know
[1:46:24]
we needed to do something different so I
[1:46:26]
think that's a great idea to move
[1:46:29]
forward. Thank you.
[1:46:33]
» Do you need us to vote to accept your
[1:46:37]
recommendation?
[1:46:38]
>> Yes.
[1:46:39]
>> Okay. So we need a motion. I thought so.
[1:46:42]
Just wanted to make sure.
[1:46:43]
>> I'll make a motion to accept the
[1:46:46]
recommendation from Mr. Furuchi to god
[1:46:49]
to the monthly financial reporting.
[1:46:53]
>> Second.
[1:46:54]
>> All those in favor?
[1:46:56]
>> I I that motion passes. That will bring
[1:46:59]
us to the next one. C.
[1:47:02]
This uh discussion action fiscal year
[1:47:04]
2027 memo from Anthony Ferushi,
[1:47:07]
financial consultant regarding the
[1:47:09]
fiscal year 2027 budget to actual
[1:47:12]
monthly report.
[1:47:14]
>> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um I do have a
[1:47:16]
package that has the format that we've
[1:47:19]
been speaking about just a moment ago.
[1:47:21]
It's breaking down the operating funds,
[1:47:23]
what we consider operating funds, where
[1:47:25]
the district is responsible for the
[1:47:27]
surplus and deficits, etc. Um it's
[1:47:30]
broken down into four, excuse me, three
[1:47:34]
categories. One being your general fund,
[1:47:36]
which is your school operating account.
[1:47:37]
That's where the tax community dollars
[1:47:40]
to support schools flows through. The
[1:47:43]
next is your capital reserve fund.
[1:47:45]
Typically, that's the funding that the
[1:47:47]
schools have patched through from um
[1:47:49]
prior year surpluses and and coming up
[1:47:52]
this year. um housing aid that state has
[1:47:55]
paid to the town and expenses the school
[1:47:58]
has paid historically um is going to
[1:48:00]
start coming through to the schools and
[1:48:01]
that's a whole another topic of
[1:48:03]
conversation but those funds will flow
[1:48:05]
through your capital reserve and then
[1:48:06]
lastly the school lunch and so this just
[1:48:10]
is setting the the temperature and the
[1:48:12]
template of you've got the operating
[1:48:14]
funds revenue and the operant I noticed
[1:48:16]
I made a mistake total all school
[1:48:18]
operating expenses is in the first
[1:48:20]
cluster that should have been revenue my
[1:48:22]
apologies ies. And then the second
[1:48:24]
cluster is the expenses in totality. The
[1:48:27]
total budget, your year-to- date actual
[1:48:30]
incumbrances are your open purchase
[1:48:32]
orders or in the case of staff salaries.
[1:48:34]
And we know who's getting paid out of
[1:48:36]
what particular line after so many
[1:48:38]
payrolls, it goes down to what we expect
[1:48:40]
to pay them the course of the rest of
[1:48:42]
the school year. Um, that's what your
[1:48:44]
incumbrances total. And then it talks
[1:48:46]
about your availability. Um, the general
[1:48:50]
fund comments. Um I'm just highlighting
[1:48:53]
the fact that the current budget is um
[1:48:57]
under review. There's a number of issues
[1:49:00]
that have come up um identified as the
[1:49:03]
labor contract negotiations. What the
[1:49:06]
impact may be on that facility director
[1:49:08]
coming on board and being involved with
[1:49:11]
capital improvements. capital
[1:49:13]
improvement um budget has not been
[1:49:17]
brought forward to the school committee
[1:49:19]
for the upcoming school year FY27.
[1:49:21]
So that what type of potential impact
[1:49:23]
that will have and as we had heard
[1:49:26]
earlier about the CTE and the tuitions.
[1:49:29]
So, we are taking another review of your
[1:49:33]
school committee adopted budget for FY27
[1:49:37]
and I am targeting the end of September,
[1:49:40]
the last meeting in September to come be
[1:49:43]
back before you either validating the
[1:49:45]
budget that we have and what you've
[1:49:47]
approved collectively
[1:49:50]
um is is um adequate and there's no
[1:49:54]
surprises um or if there's some items in
[1:49:57]
there Um, and most importantly, I'll
[1:50:01]
talk about it in a couple minutes, the
[1:50:03]
end results of FY26
[1:50:06]
and what those triggers were,
[1:50:10]
they will be compared to your FY27
[1:50:14]
budget and budget projections.
[1:50:16]
And so I think those areas and we can
[1:50:19]
get into the detail in a moment but
[1:50:21]
those types of areas we will have a
[1:50:24]
strong presentation as to whether it's
[1:50:26]
sustainable or they were oneoffs etc. Um
[1:50:30]
and when we're talking in excess of a
[1:50:32]
million dollars on the table for
[1:50:33]
conversation I think it behooves us to
[1:50:36]
do a full FY27 review with FY26 as a
[1:50:40]
backs stop as to how did we really do
[1:50:42]
last year. So that piece is on the table
[1:50:45]
for consideration down the road. Um I
[1:50:49]
just alluded to the capital fund is its
[1:50:51]
own on the second page. It's its own
[1:50:53]
comments and this is your opportunity if
[1:50:56]
anything is doesn't seem to be commented
[1:50:58]
on when you get these in advance of in
[1:51:00]
the future. Um that would be your
[1:51:02]
opportunity to challenge the CFO as to
[1:51:05]
is there an issue with something and
[1:51:06]
those comments should be made and and
[1:51:08]
document what's going on on a regular
[1:51:10]
basis. Um, but with
[1:51:14]
the arrival of the new F uh facilities
[1:51:16]
director and my involvement with the
[1:51:20]
whole 5-year capital plan last year and
[1:51:23]
meeting with the town manager and the
[1:51:25]
superintendent,
[1:51:27]
um, we've gotten clarity as to what we
[1:51:30]
need to do to go forward and not having
[1:51:32]
a capital budget approved right now is
[1:51:37]
actually working out fine because with
[1:51:38]
the new facilities director, that person
[1:51:41]
will be responsible to achieve the the activities that are going to be come
[1:51:45]
before you by the end of September. And
[1:51:48]
so there's another document in here that
[1:51:50]
I'm talking about capital budget. So I'm
[1:51:52]
kind of leading into that. So I'll back
[1:51:54]
off. We can get into more detail, but
[1:51:55]
I'm articulating that in your summary
[1:51:58]
report for the community to know that it
[1:52:00]
is under further review and with
[1:52:02]
solidification of when to expect. And to
[1:52:04]
me, that's the biggest thing when with
[1:52:06]
putting a document that's going to be
[1:52:08]
out in the public realm is we've
[1:52:11]
identified something and then we're
[1:52:13]
going to leave you with what's this next
[1:52:16]
step is. Be it follow up a month from
[1:52:18]
now or we got it resolved or we've got
[1:52:22]
to come up with another plan. But at
[1:52:23]
least here we hopefully it comes across
[1:52:25]
that yes we've identified something but
[1:52:28]
we also have the action plan that's
[1:52:30]
working on between now and a certain
[1:52:32]
date and we're going to follow up on it
[1:52:33]
and it becomes a target and everybody
[1:52:35]
will be on board what the school is
[1:52:37]
trying to achieve. So those are the
[1:52:39]
pieces that are laid out in front of you
[1:52:42]
and there's also the comment about the
[1:52:43]
school lunch fund etc. It's just early
[1:52:46]
the school doesn't open. We just have a
[1:52:48]
small summer program so it's very
[1:52:49]
minimal. There's really nothing to
[1:52:51]
report out over the summer. There's
[1:52:52]
nothing extraordinary to be concerned
[1:52:54]
about at this time. And then the all the
[1:52:57]
grants um the state just started
[1:53:00]
approving grants. So we will be starting
[1:53:01]
the post actually approved budgets and
[1:53:03]
we'll get up to speed with that. So this
[1:53:05]
is just a very minimal amount of impact
[1:53:08]
on the community at this point. But the
[1:53:11]
d total budget will be probably
[1:53:12]
something of the interest for the
[1:53:14]
community down the road when we get all
[1:53:15]
the grant budgets approved and into the
[1:53:17]
system. you'll see what kind of
[1:53:19]
resources we have supporting our school
[1:53:21]
system through that process.
[1:53:23]
And then lastly is the attachment of the
[1:53:26]
line item reports showing them
[1:53:30]
collectively by what we consider object
[1:53:32]
codes. So whether it be the salary line
[1:53:35]
or a stipen line or the coaches and etc. um it's across all districts and I
[1:53:41]
got to say kudos to your accounting team
[1:53:44]
um from what they've been trying to
[1:53:45]
achieve. Behind these four pages of
[1:53:48]
reports for the general fund alone,
[1:53:51]
there's over 7,000
[1:53:55]
account codes in which to post the
[1:53:57]
transaction. So, it's an incredibly
[1:53:59]
tedious and focused effort to maintain
[1:54:03]
the integrity um of the information
[1:54:06]
that's going into the buckets uh
[1:54:08]
appropriately. And this has to do with
[1:54:10]
the Yukoa system. It's a 32digit account
[1:54:13]
code which gives you opportunity to
[1:54:15]
overanalyze a district in my opinion.
[1:54:18]
But you see them from the macro level.
[1:54:20]
Office supplies is one line,
[1:54:22]
instructional textbooks is another line,
[1:54:25]
but it's collective. Our report doesn't
[1:54:27]
break it down by so by high school,
[1:54:30]
middle school or or subject, but in your
[1:54:32]
system it is. And so if you want that
[1:54:34]
level of detail, it's available, but the
[1:54:36]
summary level is what um is our standard
[1:54:39]
report. You know, we should be fine with
[1:54:40]
that. Any questions?
[1:54:44]
>> I have a question. Um so I I think for
[1:54:48]
me it's just a clarifying question. So
[1:54:51]
when you talk about fringe benefits and
[1:54:54]
or under budget, um do you mean that we
[1:55:00]
didn't do that in our budget? So
[1:55:04]
we didn't budget enough money for it and
[1:55:06]
you had to go somewhere else to find it
[1:55:09]
to be able to cover these amounts
[1:55:12]
>> potentially. Yes. That that's the
[1:55:14]
expectation. Yes. But the communication
[1:55:18]
to you as a body and to the public and
[1:55:21]
as a whole, I think is the critical link
[1:55:24]
here. that if you're identifying a
[1:55:26]
movement of something underneath the
[1:55:28]
what I call underneath the hood out of
[1:55:30]
those 7,000 lines and if it's not in the
[1:55:34]
same object code we're moving something
[1:55:36]
from salary because we have an open
[1:55:39]
position but we had to cover an out of
[1:55:41]
district tuition that can be
[1:55:43]
communicated in the comment area. Um,
[1:55:47]
but when you do your November
[1:55:50]
projection, I always presented it as a
[1:55:52]
revised budget. So that you would adopt
[1:55:54]
a budget and then that would be where
[1:55:56]
it's embedded that you took the salary
[1:55:58]
and slid it budgetarily down there. So
[1:56:00]
when you produce these reports in the
[1:56:01]
future,
[1:56:03]
they will align with one another, that
[1:56:05]
the salaries is accurate and that
[1:56:08]
purchase service is accurate. So if the
[1:56:11]
subsystem isn't managed, it could look
[1:56:13]
like it's out of balance and you may
[1:56:16]
have a problem not realizing that
[1:56:18]
there's a opportunity in other areas.
[1:56:20]
And there's another half a step the
[1:56:22]
district could consider. Um I've had two
[1:56:25]
different experiences where this the
[1:56:28]
administration was allowed to move money
[1:56:31]
in the category supplies. And so the
[1:56:34]
Yukoa County codes use the first two
[1:56:36]
digits for category. So a 56 supply,
[1:56:40]
there could be 500 56 accounts or a 55
[1:56:45]
account or a 53 account or 51 account.
[1:56:49]
The administration was allowed to move
[1:56:50]
it over there because you approved total
[1:56:52]
salaries, you've approved total purchase
[1:56:53]
services, etc. But if you needed money
[1:56:56]
from one of the categories to go to
[1:56:58]
another category, the school committee
[1:57:00]
got involved and said we want to be the
[1:57:02]
one that authorizes that and approves
[1:57:04]
that. And that allows you to know
[1:57:07]
whether money was in supplies, it's
[1:57:09]
over. Now we're going to put over in
[1:57:10]
salaries and hire another body that the
[1:57:13]
school committee may not be aware of at
[1:57:14]
the time. So those cross categories was
[1:57:17]
an opportunity. This wait a minute, I
[1:57:20]
thought you needed these things to
[1:57:21]
purchase services or salary and now
[1:57:23]
you're telling me you're going to go buy
[1:57:24]
equipment with it. You know, is it one
[1:57:26]
of is it this is boutine, etc., etc. So
[1:57:29]
those kinds of internal operational
[1:57:31]
things will come to play because if you
[1:57:33]
don't make the budget adjustments even
[1:57:35]
though everybody knows about it, the
[1:57:37]
report could look skewed when it's out
[1:57:39]
in the public realm. So just be
[1:57:41]
conscious of the timing of moving budget
[1:57:45]
numbers and who knows what when. I've
[1:57:48]
always been an advocate upfront first,
[1:57:50]
make the adjustment and then we can move
[1:57:52]
on. You've heard the reasons, you agree
[1:57:54]
with the rationale, we're moving
[1:57:56]
forward. this is appropriate for this
[1:57:58]
year and then it'll be revisited next
[1:57:59]
year and then the system could be
[1:58:01]
>> just so I can think I'm understanding
[1:58:05]
where you're going. So in here I'm
[1:58:08]
reading that the retiring the retirees
[1:58:12]
benefit
[1:58:14]
and
[1:58:16]
um
[1:58:20]
so
[1:58:21]
that's it. So with retirees, we don't
[1:58:24]
know that they're going to retire.
[1:58:26]
>> Correct.
[1:58:27]
>> So is that what impacts that
[1:58:30]
>> occasionally? Yes.
[1:58:32]
>> The budget then?
[1:58:32]
>> Yes.
[1:58:33]
>> Okay. So that I'm correct.
[1:58:35]
>> Yep. And and a lot of times if if it
[1:58:37]
happens in December, um it'll impact the
[1:58:40]
tail end of your year, but you don't
[1:58:41]
know about it until sometimes they come
[1:58:43]
back and say, "There's an opportunity
[1:58:45]
for me to leave." Or like what just
[1:58:46]
happened, if it happens in August, well,
[1:58:48]
we're going to replace that person. And
[1:58:51]
that could be a cost savings that will
[1:58:54]
get calculated officially in your
[1:58:55]
November calculations cuz
[1:58:57]
>> but you can't really call it a a savings
[1:59:00]
because now you have to pay retirement
[1:59:04]
benefits and etc like that. Correct.
[1:59:07]
Right.
[1:59:08]
>> Yeah.
[1:59:08]
>> Okay. That that should get factored in
[1:59:10]
during that conversation when the
[1:59:12]
triggers take place. And then it's
[1:59:14]
material. I mean, if you miss one dental
[1:59:17]
bill or two dental bill or even six
[1:59:19]
month worth of dental bills, you're only
[1:59:20]
talking three, four, $500, $1,000. You
[1:59:24]
know, at least you're getting rid of big
[1:59:27]
items that seem to be sometimes a
[1:59:29]
surprise in some communities. And so
[1:59:31]
that's what we're going to be trying to
[1:59:33]
formalize while you go through this
[1:59:35]
process. you're going to whittle down
[1:59:37]
the uncertainties of what we're facing
[1:59:41]
um as this thing progresses through the
[1:59:42]
course of its uh function.
[1:59:45]
>> So um I I am greatly appreciative of you
[1:59:50]
bringing back the um need for budget
[1:59:55]
amend amendments. We we definitely need
[1:59:58]
to do that on a consistent basis. Along
[2:00:01]
with budget amendments, I would like to
[2:00:04]
also see a variance analysis of any any
[2:00:08]
variance in any of the accounts that
[2:00:11]
might be above some set number. And with the rationale, I mean, I'm going to
[2:00:16]
use an example. The town was using
[2:00:19]
energy credits, so we were way under the
[2:00:22]
budget for electricity. We if we were
[2:00:25]
looking at the at a variance analysis on
[2:00:27]
an ongoing basis, we would have seen it.
[2:00:29]
So, you know, it's great that it was
[2:00:31]
under budgeted, but there was no
[2:00:34]
visibility of it. Um, so I'm just going
[2:00:37]
to ask Kate, do you think we should have
[2:00:40]
a subcommittee meeting to talk about
[2:00:43]
what reporting requirements we may need?
[2:00:48]
>> I do. I think we I think we need um I
[2:00:50]
think we actually need to start having a
[2:00:53]
more frequent budget and and finance
[2:00:55]
subcommittee meeting. And I think it
[2:00:57]
also aligns with the monthly reports
[2:00:59]
that we're generating. Do we have to
[2:01:01]
have it monthly? Maybe not, but maybe
[2:01:03]
you know by monthly or or you know so
[2:01:07]
because we need um
[2:01:10]
our number one our number one focus has
[2:01:13]
been transparency
[2:01:16]
and I think we lost some of that over
[2:01:19]
the past year unfortunately and uh we
[2:01:23]
need to regain it and um and so I think
[2:01:26]
this sets that stage to to kind of
[2:01:30]
reclaiming that. Um, I think we kind of
[2:01:32]
took for granted that we had
[2:01:35]
transparency. Um, and and it kind of fit
[2:01:39]
us. So, I want to make sure we get back
[2:01:41]
to it. Um, and I think this sets us up
[2:01:43]
for that for sure. And having that type
[2:01:46]
of visibility that you're referring to,
[2:01:48]
it just it o it just cl it opens the
[2:01:50]
door cl and clarifies everything for us.
[2:01:55]
and and maybe as these monthly reports
[2:02:00]
um start rolling out well they've
[2:02:02]
already started but continue to roll out
[2:02:05]
um maybe we should the budget
[2:02:08]
subcommittee should meet monthly and
[2:02:11]
then after we get you know both feet dug
[2:02:15]
in um we may be able to make it um less
[2:02:19]
often I'm not looking to add meetings to
[2:02:23]
everybody's plate. Um,
[2:02:27]
so um, Mr. Fury,
[2:02:31]
I am the abstract math person here at
[2:02:33]
the table, not the accounting person.
[2:02:36]
>> Mhm.
[2:02:36]
>> So, um, your notation,
[2:02:40]
I always have to clarify this. You've
[2:02:43]
got these things. Are those negative
[2:02:46]
amounts?
[2:02:47]
>> Yes. typically um
[2:02:50]
>> use a negative sign like we do.
[2:02:53]
>> It's it's sometimes it's difficult to
[2:02:54]
see that little dash. I find the
[2:02:56]
brackets to be um easier to read.
[2:03:01]
>> They use something else different.
[2:03:05]
I want a negative sign. Make it red.
[2:03:09]
>> Yeah, we could make it red. I would have
[2:03:11]
gotten it if it was red.
[2:03:15]
Any
[2:03:24]
other questions?
[2:03:28]
All right.
[2:03:30]
>> I don't I don't think we need to have a
[2:03:33]
motion to accept your memo, though.
[2:03:34]
Right. Good. Okay. Um
[2:03:36]
>> I'm sorry, K, before we move on, I'm
[2:03:38]
just curious. So this particular this is
[2:03:41]
a this is um this is a different than
[2:03:44]
what we went in front of the town with
[2:03:48]
many times over the past year. I'm
[2:03:50]
curious are we are we speaking to that
[2:03:53]
with the town at all? Like what kind of
[2:03:55]
where where do we stand with all that?
[2:04:00]
I believe the next step once we've
[2:04:02]
stopped this monthly process, we'll get
[2:04:05]
clarity on
[2:04:07]
um aligning communication with the town
[2:04:10]
so that it makes sense. And so that
[2:04:13]
would be probably the next level of
[2:04:15]
activity associated with what we're
[2:04:17]
talking about this evening.
[2:04:18]
>> I can get back to you on that.
[2:04:20]
>> Thank you.
[2:04:24]
» All right. Thank you. That was a good
[2:04:25]
question. Um all right that'll bring us
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to D discussion action fiscal year 2026
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district end of year revenue expenses
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and fund balance.
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>> Thank you madam chair. Um this one is
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going to be of every interest much
[2:04:41]
interest clearly and there was lots of
[2:04:44]
um data points and as you had mentioned
[2:04:47]
the timeliness of what do we know when
[2:04:49]
do we know etc etc. The bottom line is
[2:04:53]
the expenses have been pushed through.
[2:04:55]
There were a few items that I had to do
[2:04:57]
additional research on
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and one of them as the school committee
[2:05:02]
chair me uh chair had mentioned happened
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to be electricity.
[2:05:08]
And so the unique item of electricity
[2:05:10]
was with net metering. There was a
[2:05:12]
change of practice in the business
[2:05:14]
office this past school year. And so in
[2:05:17]
meeting with the town,
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the electric bills we received show
[2:05:22]
credits coming off and having net zero
[2:05:25]
numbers owed to the electric company.
[2:05:27]
But historically, we were recording the
[2:05:30]
expense as if we pay the bill. It just
[2:05:32]
happens to get paid in another manner.
[2:05:34]
And so that was the bookkeeping to
[2:05:36]
sustain how much it actually would cost
[2:05:38]
us for electricity.
[2:05:41]
By making the change, it made the
[2:05:43]
expense go down, which created confusion
[2:05:46]
through the course of the whole year.
[2:05:48]
There was a worksheet that had all of
[2:05:50]
the open bills and what the charges
[2:05:52]
would have been. And so those charges
[2:05:55]
have in fact been posted to the school's
[2:05:58]
expenditure account. So you don't lose
[2:06:00]
the history of how much our electric
[2:06:02]
actually cost without the net metering.
[2:06:05]
What's a question that's on further
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research
[2:06:09]
is that payment that the electric
[2:06:13]
company was recognizing as take it off
[2:06:15]
your bill, you don't have to send us a
[2:06:17]
check.
[2:06:19]
Where were those funds? Typically, we
[2:06:20]
were accounting with the town for that
[2:06:22]
and it was a separate. There's no
[2:06:24]
revenue aligned in our operating budget.
[2:06:27]
if there was checks coming in,
[2:06:30]
which is typical of comparing this
[2:06:31]
budget versus historical budgets. I'm
[2:06:34]
still resolving the whole piece of where
[2:06:37]
was the credit offered because we don't
[2:06:40]
want to lose the sight that if all of a
[2:06:42]
sudden net metering goes away and that
[2:06:45]
financial support goes away, we're still
[2:06:47]
going to have electrical expenses. So
[2:06:50]
that's why it was important to restate
[2:06:52]
the expenses in our operating budget
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because that's what it would really cost
[2:06:55]
us. and offset is the question of where
[2:06:59]
is that recognized in any of our
[2:07:02]
operating statements. So right now I'm
[2:07:04]
not aware of any recognition of the
[2:07:07]
revenue coming in affecting our revenue
[2:07:10]
for the last year that just closed. But
[2:07:12]
we did elevate the expense. So, in round
[2:07:15]
numbers, I was able to demonstrate that
[2:07:18]
we've actually had income in excess of
[2:07:22]
$898,000
[2:07:25]
when comparing budget to what actually
[2:07:27]
came in. Okay? And in my comments below,
[2:07:32]
I break down what the major contributors
[2:07:36]
were that gave us that $898,000
[2:07:40]
income level. All right. First and
[2:07:43]
foremost, your Medicaid building billing
[2:07:46]
for student services, what was Medicaid
[2:07:48]
eligible, exceeded budget by over 100%.
[2:07:52]
You had a budget somewhere in the
[2:07:54]
neighborhood of half a million dollar
[2:07:56]
and it came in at a million50,000.
[2:08:00]
So $550,000
[2:08:02]
of additional billing. I know the
[2:08:04]
special ed department put in uh
[2:08:07]
procedures to make sure we build for the
[2:08:09]
activities that were available for
[2:08:12]
billing for our students and the
[2:08:13]
services being provided. So that was one
[2:08:15]
initiative I understand helped
[2:08:17]
contribute to this. Second initiative is
[2:08:20]
there was some sunsetting of Medicare
[2:08:23]
activities where they were paying bills
[2:08:26]
um and so that got taken care of but
[2:08:29]
they may not exist coming into this
[2:08:32]
year. And so there was an economic
[2:08:34]
opportunity and a windfall. So the
[2:08:36]
dollars are real today. And what I
[2:08:39]
mentioned in my document is part of our
[2:08:42]
research for the FY27 budget.
[2:08:46]
This is one of those. Can the Medicaid
[2:08:50]
Medicare Medicaid uh billing be
[2:08:53]
sustained for FY27?
[2:08:56]
because you have a budget that's roughly
[2:08:58]
the same budget you had in FY26, about
[2:09:01]
$600,000.
[2:09:03]
So, can we continue to bill activities
[2:09:06]
and reach a million dollars in billing?
[2:09:08]
That's a big number for conversation. I
[2:09:10]
hope to have an answer by the end of
[2:09:12]
September. I'm meeting with the director
[2:09:14]
of special ed to find out the billing
[2:09:16]
opportunities. If we had a two or three
[2:09:19]
students that came into district last
[2:09:20]
year and had very unique issues and that
[2:09:24]
triggered the billing according to their
[2:09:26]
unique issues and those students now are
[2:09:29]
not enrolled or they no longer need
[2:09:31]
those unique services, then it's it's
[2:09:35]
very possible the building can go down
[2:09:37]
substantially. So that we got to get
[2:09:38]
clarity on as to what those triggers
[2:09:41]
were and that's what we're working on
[2:09:43]
now and we'll have answers by the end of
[2:09:45]
September.
[2:09:47]
Next category was tuitions of students
[2:09:49]
coming to South Kingston
[2:09:52]
in excess of 180,000. Again, your budget
[2:09:55]
was only about 150,000. So, we made up
[2:09:57]
over 100% on that category as well. And
[2:10:00]
it's the same issue. The numbers of
[2:10:03]
students coming going to be sustained
[2:10:05]
was next year's budget FY27 built on
[2:10:08]
what we were actually receiving. So, it
[2:10:11]
would be um absolutely critical to know
[2:10:14]
that we're going to be able to sustain
[2:10:15]
it or was the budget built based on last
[2:10:18]
year's budget and is there an
[2:10:20]
opportunity that that revenue may also
[2:10:22]
go up. I'll have those answers come
[2:10:24]
September.
[2:10:27]
And then there's earnings on investments
[2:10:28]
and I'll be working with the town that
[2:10:31]
um we went up close to 60% of plus
[2:10:35]
$113,000
[2:10:37]
for that category alone. And again, was
[2:10:40]
it because of where investments were?
[2:10:42]
How did that investment get generated?
[2:10:45]
What were the interest rates? Are
[2:10:46]
interest rates coming down? We need to
[2:10:48]
validate whether what we received was
[2:10:52]
better benchmark for the upcoming year
[2:10:54]
or we got to roll it back. But I'll have
[2:10:55]
an answer as to why we won't match it or
[2:10:58]
we will match it when we do the 27. So
[2:11:00]
these are all baselines for us to talk
[2:11:02]
about going into 27, but it's real as of
[2:11:06]
June 30th. And so that helped the
[2:11:09]
district immensely.
[2:11:12]
The next item on the general fund is
[2:11:14]
expenditures. And as I had noted that we
[2:11:17]
came in under budget on expenditures by
[2:11:20]
$840,000
[2:11:23]
and they were categories
[2:11:26]
fringe benefits was $290,000
[2:11:29]
under spent in the categories in
[2:11:32]
particular our retiree paid benefits by
[2:11:34]
over 240,000 of it. Staff life insurance
[2:11:38]
and medical buyback attributed for the
[2:11:40]
other 54,000. So that became the 290.
[2:11:44]
The question to be had is the retiree
[2:11:46]
benefits. Um, is that just a oneoff? Why
[2:11:51]
was there such a significant savings?
[2:11:52]
What is it compared to for 27? And is
[2:11:54]
that sustainable? And so again, it's a
[2:11:57]
good problem to have, but what you do
[2:12:00]
with the information becomes critical
[2:12:02]
about how valid is it. And so, um, that
[2:12:05]
is further research. Fringe benefits
[2:12:09]
contributions to contractual pension
[2:12:11]
plans was under by 194,000.
[2:12:14]
Still saying I feel like it's redundant.
[2:12:17]
Our salaries came in relatively close to
[2:12:19]
budget somewhere in the neighborhood of
[2:12:21]
about $30,000 out of $29 million salary.
[2:12:25]
What prompted the pension contribution?
[2:12:28]
Whether there was a projection of an
[2:12:30]
increase in contribution rate or there
[2:12:33]
was periods where we had folks with open
[2:12:35]
positions. I'm not sure what triggered
[2:12:36]
those pieces, but that's what the
[2:12:38]
research is going to drive. And then how
[2:12:40]
does next year's 2027's pension
[2:12:44]
contributions line up budgetarily with
[2:12:47]
the salaries that are appropriate to
[2:12:48]
those categories is going to be. So
[2:12:50]
these be this is becoming the outline
[2:12:53]
for our accounting manager to have
[2:12:55]
answers for me. how we created the
[2:12:58]
budget, is it sustainable and then have
[2:13:01]
a better stronger budget presentation
[2:13:04]
for you for 27.
[2:13:07]
And then other purchase services is
[2:13:09]
primarily the out of district tuitions
[2:13:11]
for for vocational and special ed had
[2:13:14]
gone down. Um and is that sustainable
[2:13:16]
becomes another question.
[2:13:19]
The side pieces I wanted to highlight is
[2:13:21]
there was a claim settlement of 150,000.
[2:13:24]
you didn't have a budget for that
[2:13:26]
particular item, but because of the
[2:13:28]
savings and in and other categories and
[2:13:30]
the revenue, it did not have a a
[2:13:33]
negative impact on our bottom line for
[2:13:35]
the school year. So, that's a good
[2:13:37]
thing. And last but not least is the
[2:13:41]
summary report attached has broken out
[2:13:44]
for you the whole general fund. But in
[2:13:48]
order to have the recognition of the
[2:13:51]
funds that the school committee adopted
[2:13:54]
in a budget for the capital program for
[2:13:57]
FY26 which was done back in August of
[2:14:00]
2025 last year I came before you with a
[2:14:03]
recommended budget.
[2:14:05]
This the school committee approved a
[2:14:08]
recommended budget of $2.1 million
[2:14:11]
and $780,000 was going to be capital
[2:14:14]
fund dollars that was still left in the
[2:14:16]
0429 account.
[2:14:18]
And the difference of the 1.4 million
[2:14:21]
school committee authorized
[2:14:22]
administration to transfer 1.4 for from
[2:14:25]
the general fund fund balance carryover
[2:14:29]
from prior years to the capital account
[2:14:32]
to pay for the building activities that
[2:14:35]
were in the budget.
[2:14:37]
The school district only achieved
[2:14:39]
$1,95,000
[2:14:42]
of need for the projects that got
[2:14:44]
completed. So some of the projects came
[2:14:46]
in under budget and so we didn't need
[2:14:47]
the money etc. the 1951
[2:14:51]
1,95,000
[2:14:53]
was transferred over so that the capital
[2:14:57]
fund budget 0429 will show expenses and
[2:15:00]
revenue balance. So those revenue
[2:15:02]
figures came in just as had pl been
[2:15:04]
planned and authorized.
[2:15:08]
If the budget did not have the extra
[2:15:10]
revenue for FY26 and did not come in
[2:15:14]
under budget
[2:15:15]
by the $800,000,
[2:15:18]
those two items provided about a $1.6
[2:15:22]
million
[2:15:24]
value left over for the operating school
[2:15:26]
year. The million is being deducted from
[2:15:29]
the 1.6 six because that's the
[2:15:31]
bookkeeping entry. We have to show the
[2:15:33]
community what money is being
[2:15:34]
transferred from general fund.
[2:15:37]
If the whole budget and the revenue came
[2:15:40]
in as planned,
[2:15:42]
then the school department would have
[2:15:44]
had a balanced operational budget and a
[2:15:48]
million 95 transfer and it would have
[2:15:50]
showed a deficit of a million 95. But
[2:15:52]
that million95 would have been taken out
[2:15:54]
of the fund balance that we authorized
[2:15:57]
last year because everybody knows we got
[2:15:59]
over $3 million in fund balance that's
[2:16:01]
not targeted and that was the source of
[2:16:04]
dollars we were using. So the good side
[2:16:06]
is we're now in a position to just slide
[2:16:10]
over the net number that's remaining
[2:16:12]
which is $600,000. So we have our
[2:16:14]
homework on very specific targets of
[2:16:17]
what drove the differences.
[2:16:19]
We have an understanding of the impact
[2:16:21]
of the transfer and how it was covered.
[2:16:25]
And we also end up with my final piece
[2:16:27]
is the 1.7 was the surplus deficit for
[2:16:31]
the year before taking into account the
[2:16:34]
transfer to make the capital program be
[2:16:36]
balanced. By subtracting the million 95,
[2:16:40]
we're going to have 643,000
[2:16:43]
remaining. That 643 will get added to
[2:16:46]
last year's fund balance because there's
[2:16:48]
been no change in that over the school
[2:16:50]
year. It waits till the very end after
[2:16:51]
the operating is determined plus or
[2:16:54]
minus goes into that account. Under
[2:16:56]
school committee policy at 2% of the
[2:16:58]
general fund budget is set aside for the
[2:17:02]
potential if there's ever um any
[2:17:04]
emergencies and shortcomings etc. That
[2:17:07]
should be defined as restricted fund
[2:17:10]
balance for those activities. And so on
[2:17:13]
our audit reports, we had a a fund
[2:17:15]
balance of over $4 million.
[2:17:19]
So subtracting the 1.26
[2:17:22]
from the 4 million
[2:17:25]
gives us the uh I mean from the from the
[2:17:28]
beginning gives us the 4 million. Um, by
[2:17:32]
adding in the $643,000,
[2:17:36]
our endofear total fund balance that
[2:17:38]
you'll see on your order reports later
[2:17:40]
this fall is going to be 5.3 million of
[2:17:44]
which 1.266 is restricted per school
[2:17:48]
committee policy, which would leave us
[2:17:50]
approximately $3 million
[2:17:54]
for consideration
[2:17:56]
of paper projects. And I'm setting this
[2:18:00]
stage for when we come before you with
[2:18:02]
the capital program. If we need the use
[2:18:04]
of fund balance, it's available and it's
[2:18:06]
there. I'm also analyzing FY27 because
[2:18:10]
my understanding is that there was an
[2:18:11]
allocation of $1.3 million of fund
[2:18:14]
balance use to make the FY27 budget
[2:18:17]
balance for this coming school year. So
[2:18:20]
simultaneously I will be looking at the
[2:18:22]
potential need for that 1.3
[2:18:25]
whether the sustained income that we're
[2:18:28]
talking about is achievable then you may
[2:18:30]
not need it and we can have those
[2:18:32]
conversations once I have 27 completed.
[2:18:36]
So just setting the stage that if this
[2:18:38]
makes sense audit report last year
[2:18:40]
anybody who has the audit report you're
[2:18:42]
going to see fund balance broken into a
[2:18:44]
couple of categories but it totals about
[2:18:46]
$4.1 million. you take our 1.2 out,
[2:18:50]
that's where we come in with that $4
[2:18:52]
million number and then we're gonna
[2:18:55]
because if you add those two, that's
[2:18:56]
what's out there publicly.
[2:18:59]
Does that make sense? I hope I didn't
[2:19:00]
confuse you too much. I know it's deep,
[2:19:03]
but it has such impact.
[2:19:07]
I think what you presented to us was
[2:19:09]
very clear and I understand this report
[2:19:12]
very well. Um, I think where
[2:19:17]
I'm I'm not confused by it, but I am
[2:19:20]
just want to call out that this is
[2:19:24]
distinctly different from what we acted
[2:19:27]
on
[2:19:29]
with the town. And I want to make sure
[2:19:31]
that that piece is clear. That's not a
[2:19:33]
you thing. That's a us thing. And I I am
[2:19:37]
feeling and and maybe someone at the
[2:19:38]
table can make me feel better, but I am
[2:19:41]
feeling like we kind of glossed over
[2:19:44]
that
[2:19:45]
at the moment. Um, and I just may be
[2:19:48]
missing something, but I just want us to
[2:19:50]
be clear that this is very different
[2:19:53]
from the budget we passed and presented
[2:19:56]
and acted on the end of last year and
[2:20:01]
where this is um
[2:20:06]
this is what we should trust to be
[2:20:09]
accurate. Now, um I just want to make
[2:20:12]
sure we're not glossing over anything
[2:20:14]
because I I just am feeling a little bit
[2:20:17]
like we are.
[2:20:19]
>> Can I ask a clarifying question?
[2:20:24]
What was the beginning of fund balance
[2:20:26]
at the beginning of of this fiscal year?
[2:20:29]
>> 4.1 uh $4.1 million.
[2:20:35]
>> Okay. So,
[2:20:37]
we we had 4.1 million in fund balance.
[2:20:42]
We spent 1.1 million on capital
[2:20:45]
improvements, bringing us down to three,
[2:20:48]
and we're ending with five.
[2:20:51]
>> Well, the the inclusion of your
[2:20:54]
restricted fund is is what I'm
[2:20:57]
targeting. There's the separation when
[2:20:59]
you say three and four where we had the million dollars of targeted fund on
[2:21:05]
the 2%.
[2:21:07]
So what was available for use came in at
[2:21:10]
3.8 I mean um 2.8.
[2:21:13]
>> Okay. I and I know there's there's a
[2:21:16]
restricted fund balance and the
[2:21:18]
unrestricted fund balance and the
[2:21:20]
600,000 of the surplus that we just will
[2:21:24]
transfer the fund balance that goes to
[2:21:26]
the unrestricted fund balance. Correct.
[2:21:28]
>> Correct.
[2:21:29]
>> When we move money into the capital fund
[2:21:33]
balance, that's going into the
[2:21:35]
restricted fund balance. Correct.
[2:21:37]
>> That's out of the Yes, that's correct.
[2:21:39]
>> Okay. So I guess my question really is
[2:21:42]
what were the numbers in the just the
[2:21:44]
unrestricted
[2:21:47]
fund balance and if you don't know I'm
[2:21:50]
not I I I know you can't come here and
[2:21:52]
know everything in your head but if you
[2:21:54]
could get this
[2:21:55]
>> it's approximately um the total on your
[2:21:58]
order report when I remember is
[2:22:00]
$1,100,000
[2:22:02]
was your June 30th 2025 end of fund
[2:22:05]
balance which was inclusive of both 2%
[2:22:09]
set aside and the restricted. So if your
[2:22:12]
2% was 1.2 million, subtract that off of
[2:22:15]
the 4.1 that gets you down to the 2.8
[2:22:20]
is what was in restricted I mean
[2:22:23]
unrestricted fund balance last year.
[2:22:25]
Okay.
[2:22:26]
>> Okay.
[2:22:26]
>> And from that amount is what we were
[2:22:28]
expecting to draw over to pay for the
[2:22:31]
capital program 1.4 million of that. I
[2:22:35]
guess my real question is
[2:22:38]
to see in the unrestricted fund balance
[2:22:42]
what actually
[2:22:45]
was the difference in the over the year
[2:22:47]
because I think that's going to be clear
[2:22:51]
what the true surplus is because if
[2:22:58]
whatever amount it's increasing by
[2:23:02]
it because that's where it lands the tr
[2:23:04]
the true surplus and and I know there's
[2:23:07]
a lot of moving parts and I think you've
[2:23:09]
done an excellent job of laying out
[2:23:11]
because you've got things that are over
[2:23:12]
budget, things that are under budget,
[2:23:14]
some are revenue, some are expenses. So,
[2:23:17]
um so I think you've done a I I follow
[2:23:19]
it really well. I just want to see that
[2:23:22]
fund balance piece a bit more clear.
[2:23:25]
Based on that uh request, I understand
[2:23:28]
fully, I will make a photocopy of the
[2:23:31]
actual audit report, which would give us
[2:23:32]
the specific dollar value of the fund
[2:23:34]
balance as of June 30th. What we will be
[2:23:38]
able to then do is take clearly the
[2:23:40]
$643,000
[2:23:43]
is going to be the dollar value that's
[2:23:45]
going to get transferred into the fund
[2:23:47]
balance when the auditors do their work.
[2:23:50]
Mhm.
[2:23:51]
>> And I'll be able to show you from what
[2:23:52]
their last year number ended plus the
[2:23:55]
643. That would be the total. And then
[2:23:59]
from there, once we have that total
[2:24:00]
number in front of us, we know the 2%
[2:24:02]
set aside, we can make that deduction
[2:24:04]
off of that recalculated balance. And
[2:24:07]
that will become what's restricted for
[2:24:10]
by the school policy. And then that
[2:24:12]
whole conversation, that's the remaining
[2:24:14]
balance. Absolutely. I can pull that
[2:24:15]
piece together pretty quickly and I
[2:24:17]
think it'll clarify exactly the question
[2:24:19]
that you're asking.
[2:24:20]
>> That would be great because I I just
[2:24:22]
would like to understand the fund
[2:24:23]
balance piece a bit more. Um and I do
[2:24:26]
have one more question.
[2:24:29]
>> Um so if I'm looking at this and this is
[2:24:32]
a great summary of the general funds net
[2:24:34]
position. I I do appreciate that. Um it says surplus deficit for school year
[2:24:42]
and it shows a surplus of approximately
[2:24:45]
1.7 million. So if people are looking at
[2:24:48]
this report, would you say yes, that's
[2:24:50]
the surplus we have at the end of this
[2:24:52]
fiscal year?
[2:24:54]
>> Operationally, yes.
[2:24:56]
>> Okay.
[2:24:57]
>> Um because we were expecting to take the
[2:25:00]
$1,95,000
[2:25:01]
out of last year's $4 million,
[2:25:04]
>> right? that piece kind of gets lost in
[2:25:06]
the conversation.
[2:25:08]
>> Okay. But if we took it out of that fund
[2:25:11]
balance, then we would be adding a
[2:25:14]
million7 into the fund balance,
[2:25:16]
replenishing what was taken out. This is
[2:25:18]
the same position, just showing it
[2:25:20]
differently that we had a million7
[2:25:22]
operationally,
[2:25:24]
but we used a million5 for the capital,
[2:25:27]
which allowed us to only put 600, but we
[2:25:29]
took nothing out. So, it just increased
[2:25:31]
the fund balance. So yes, you're
[2:25:32]
absolutely right on that
[2:25:33]
>> because what I want to do is separate
[2:25:35]
the two because I don't want people to
[2:25:37]
look at this and say, "Oh,
[2:25:40]
our net surplus was 644,000
[2:25:44]
when really operationally
[2:25:46]
the surplus was 1.7."
[2:25:48]
>> Correct.
[2:25:49]
>> So, okay, thank you for clarifying. I
[2:25:51]
want to be as transparent as we can with
[2:25:53]
people so that when they see this
[2:25:55]
report, they they can understand exactly
[2:25:58]
what the numbers mean. And I think when
[2:25:59]
people say surplus, they mean the out of
[2:26:01]
the operating budget, the surplus. Thank
[2:26:04]
you.
[2:26:04]
>> And I think your prom my promise to the
[2:26:06]
you and the community runs along the
[2:26:08]
lines of looking back, we've identified
[2:26:12]
the two major pockets which created the
[2:26:14]
million7. The best we can do today is
[2:26:17]
take that and validate how that's
[2:26:20]
presented in FY27. If we can come back
[2:26:23]
to you and say the the Medicaid billing
[2:26:25]
is going to be sustained
[2:26:27]
and we make adjustment on FY27 budget,
[2:26:31]
the million3 you currently have targeted
[2:26:34]
to take out of your restricted fund to
[2:26:36]
make the operating budget for the
[2:26:37]
upcoming year could be relieved of that
[2:26:40]
pressure.
[2:26:42]
But if we can't sustain it, I think most
[2:26:45]
importantly
[2:26:47]
is you'll have the reason why it's not
[2:26:50]
sustainable.
[2:26:52]
>> And people a year from now when asked
[2:26:54]
the question, wait a minute, last year
[2:26:56]
you you had this much and now you don't.
[2:26:58]
The question has already been answered.
[2:27:00]
We went through the process. Here's why
[2:27:03]
we don't achieve the 800,000.
[2:27:06]
Here's why the expenses and what
[2:27:08]
happened aren't going to be achieved. We
[2:27:11]
are now down to that level of
[2:27:13]
understanding because we started at the
[2:27:15]
top of what's the two drivers validate
[2:27:19]
how successful those drivers are going
[2:27:21]
forward. And if it and if we choose to
[2:27:23]
not include it for some reason then
[2:27:25]
that's a that's a bat on us for doing
[2:27:27]
that and that's the conversation that
[2:27:29]
will take place in September. To me, the
[2:27:31]
real work and the real validation and
[2:27:33]
where we're going to stand will be on
[2:27:35]
that analysis of whether we add that
[2:27:38]
into the budget or not. Because, god
[2:27:40]
forbid, you add it in and make another
[2:27:42]
decision and all of a sudden the feds
[2:27:45]
pulled the Medicaid billing process and
[2:27:47]
dropped threequarters of a million
[2:27:49]
dollars on us. And it's like, well, I
[2:27:50]
added the 500 we thought we were going
[2:27:52]
to make and now we're 800,000 in the
[2:27:53]
hole. How'd you allow that to happen? We
[2:27:55]
didn't allow. So, all of those things
[2:27:57]
will come to rise. We're trying to get
[2:27:59]
in front of that. That just brings up a
[2:28:01]
couple things. First of all, thank you
[2:28:02]
for your analysis that you've done on um
[2:28:05]
the 2026 budget. I I think you're
[2:28:09]
very perceptive. It It's not just the
[2:28:11]
number, it's the why. How did we get to
[2:28:13]
that number? What's causing the you
[2:28:16]
know, what caused the surplus? I mean,
[2:28:18]
it's good to have a surplus, but we were
[2:28:20]
not expecting it and not being able to
[2:28:23]
know what the real numbers were is, you
[2:28:26]
know, we don't want to be in that
[2:28:27]
position again. and and this analysis is
[2:28:30]
wonderful and I know you're going to now
[2:28:32]
look at the 20 do that analysis on the
[2:28:35]
2027 budget. So, um but that risk in
[2:28:42]
Medicaid reimbursement knowing I mean we
[2:28:44]
can't predict what the federal
[2:28:46]
government's going to do, right? Um it
[2:28:49]
goes to how much is really needed in
[2:28:52]
fund balance because that's our safety
[2:28:55]
net for those shocks uh financial
[2:28:58]
shocks. So yes, we have a policies that
[2:29:01]
says 1 to 2% but it really should be 1
[2:29:03]
to 2% plus known risks should also
[2:29:07]
increase that amount cap so that we have
[2:29:11]
funds available for the any of those
[2:29:13]
risks. So anyways, um thank you for
[2:29:17]
answering all of those questions and I'm
[2:29:19]
going to ask others if they have more
[2:29:21]
questions.
[2:29:22]
>> Yeah, I um so my question is this fund
[2:29:26]
balance
[2:29:28]
at the end of 2026
[2:29:33]
has a total of 5,358
[2:29:38]
911.
[2:29:39]
>> Correct.
[2:29:41]
Are you telling us that was there
[2:29:44]
>> with with the current 600,000 getting
[2:29:47]
added to it? Yes.
[2:29:48]
>> We right now today.
[2:29:49]
>> Yes.
[2:29:52]
>> I have a I I
[2:29:55]
have a hard time understanding how we
[2:29:58]
got to that. Right. Because our budget
[2:30:02]
session
[2:30:05]
was horrific in my opinion, right? And if we're if we have these fund
[2:30:14]
balances,
[2:30:17]
I need to understand
[2:30:19]
if within that $5 million,
[2:30:24]
is it being
[2:30:27]
divided into a restricted fund?
[2:30:31]
Is it being a general fund? Is that one
[2:30:36]
amount being divided into these other
[2:30:38]
buckets?
[2:30:39]
>> The
[2:30:41]
fund balance is for your general fund
[2:30:44]
and then within
[2:30:46]
your general fund
[2:30:49]
you have different allowances of that
[2:30:51]
fund balance. And so when the school
[2:30:53]
committee has a policy that from their
[2:30:55]
general fund they want have money set
[2:30:58]
aside in case there's an emergency need
[2:31:02]
that becomes what they consider
[2:31:05]
restricted. You're putting it aside out
[2:31:08]
of the 5 million specifically for this
[2:31:10]
purpose.
[2:31:11]
>> Okay.
[2:31:12]
>> I just I just want to interject real
[2:31:13]
quick because I don't think and correct
[2:31:14]
me if I'm wrong. Look, I'm I'm not done
[2:31:18]
because I'm still trying to understand
[2:31:21]
if we had a 2%
[2:31:25]
in our fund balance.
[2:31:30]
Why were we like why weren't we able to
[2:31:33]
use that to help us stay our home that
[2:31:38]
our budget? I don't understand. Like I I
[2:31:41]
just think
[2:31:43]
>> I mean and I'm not blaming you. Not at
[2:31:45]
all. I just don't understand how
[2:31:49]
you could find it.
[2:31:52]
But the person that was working on it
[2:31:54]
couldn't find it. And if and also
[2:32:00]
just to help me understand a little bit
[2:32:02]
more
[2:32:04]
you were consulting during the last
[2:32:09]
couple of months or no
[2:32:11]
>> the last couple of month I came on board
[2:32:13]
I believe it was u end of May early June
[2:32:17]
>> okay that was right after all of this
[2:32:20]
you've started to dig this
[2:32:22]
>> yes okay but I still have a hard time.
[2:32:26]
>> Yeah. So, so
[2:32:28]
>> so Paul, I think to your point that is
[2:32:30]
part of the the the problem is that we
[2:32:32]
were not aware we were not made fully
[2:32:35]
aware of what we had available to us and
[2:32:37]
we were not given good information
[2:32:39]
during the budget process. Uh so that is
[2:32:43]
I I share your frustrations. I think I I
[2:32:45]
understand where you're coming from.
[2:32:46]
It's it's it's frustrating.
[2:32:55]
Yeah, I I just want I just want to
[2:32:57]
clarify one thing because I've not seen
[2:32:59]
this and correct me if I'm wrong if
[2:33:00]
we've seen this before.
[2:33:02]
>> I've not seen that 1.2 million referred
[2:33:04]
to as a restricted fund. I don't think
[2:33:06]
I've ever have Have we seen that on
[2:33:08]
previous budgets and I just missed it
[2:33:10]
because I know we had that like 1 to 2%
[2:33:12]
rule
[2:33:13]
>> and now you know Tonyy's kind of
[2:33:15]
itemizing it out into that 1.2 million
[2:33:17]
but I just want to clarify have we seen
[2:33:19]
that on previous budgets? It has not
[2:33:21]
been listed as a restricted fund. It's
[2:33:23]
been listed as that 2% um recommended,
[2:33:26]
>> but there was never a dollar amount
[2:33:28]
associated with it because that because
[2:33:29]
that's a new
[2:33:32]
Okay. So, I was I just want to make sure
[2:33:34]
I wasn't like losing my mind.
[2:33:37]
It's been referred to as restricted in
[2:33:40]
the past, but policy says that we have
[2:33:45]
that 2%
[2:33:49]
>> in in our um
[2:33:54]
» policy only can a surplus
[2:33:58]
because surplus the 2% is on any surplus
[2:34:03]
that you have that would then ate that
[2:34:07]
fund balance. Am I correct?
[2:34:10]
>> That's my understanding of your policy
[2:34:12]
which is the reason why it's not
[2:34:15]
probably not been well communicated
[2:34:18]
along the lines of those funds are for
[2:34:20]
your operating budget after it gets
[2:34:22]
approved if something big happens. So
[2:34:25]
during budget conversations about what
[2:34:27]
our school operation looks like
[2:34:30]
>> is the first $2 million or million2 is a
[2:34:34]
set aside out of the again I'm referring
[2:34:36]
to the audit report and they actually
[2:34:38]
have three classifications
[2:34:41]
of dollars what they consider the
[2:34:44]
unrestricted restricted and committed
[2:34:46]
and so all of those cluster together
[2:34:49]
generate you $4 million but it's all for
[2:34:52]
the general fund and the underlying is
[2:34:54]
what is it targeted why it's there and
[2:34:56]
then bottom line is what's the remaining
[2:34:59]
piece that's available conversation to
[2:35:01]
include and that conversation had to
[2:35:03]
have taken place because you have a line
[2:35:07]
using a million3 to balance FY27 so that
[2:35:10]
piece came forward at some point in time
[2:35:14]
um and and it's interesting that the
[2:35:19]
capital budget not getting presented
[2:35:22]
andor adopted which relied on fund
[2:35:26]
balance in prior years to go over into
[2:35:28]
that general fund fund balance. Well, if
[2:35:31]
you committed a million three, you may
[2:35:33]
not have had enough to even have that
[2:35:34]
conversation. So, that's why I'm trying
[2:35:36]
to make it clearer. And I I think having
[2:35:38]
last year's audit report is going to be
[2:35:39]
really helpful because you'll know what
[2:35:41]
our beginning is, how you got there,
[2:35:43]
what happened over the years. You had
[2:35:45]
good years where the expenses were down
[2:35:47]
and the revenue was not as high. I mean,
[2:35:49]
it was higher than what was budgeted.
[2:35:50]
Maybe not as high as this current year,
[2:35:53]
but those accumulations of dollars
[2:35:55]
validated by the auditors. That's
[2:35:58]
available. So, that's that's that's a
[2:35:59]
given. We know that to be true. We know
[2:36:02]
right now I can stand on these numbers.
[2:36:04]
I know where these numbers came from. We
[2:36:05]
know that 640 is going to it. So, I have
[2:36:07]
a lot hard number to talk about. And
[2:36:10]
then we can have that conversation about
[2:36:13]
if 27 doesn't need a million3 because
[2:36:15]
there's other revenue or expense cuts,
[2:36:17]
then we'll get there. If it does need
[2:36:19]
the 13 and you still need another
[2:36:20]
million million and a half to do your
[2:36:22]
capital projects for 27,
[2:36:25]
we'll know what that number is that's
[2:36:26]
available. So there won't be
[2:36:28]
uncertainty. There'll be certainty of
[2:36:30]
where it's coming from. And I'll make
[2:36:32]
sure that's very well communicated.
[2:36:35]
>> The main reason why the capital fund was
[2:36:36]
not being acted on is because when we
[2:36:39]
were going through the budget process
[2:36:41]
last
[2:36:44]
March, April, it feels like a year ago.
[2:36:46]
It feels like yesterday we were we were
[2:36:49]
operating as a board with the
[2:36:52]
understanding that we were in a deficit.
[2:36:55]
We were not operating in the
[2:36:56]
understanding that we had a $1.7 million
[2:37:00]
surplus. So when we were navigating with
[2:37:03]
our town and working out over how much
[2:37:06]
property tax transfer was going to come
[2:37:08]
in and scrambling and having students
[2:37:13]
lives disrupted significantly. And I
[2:37:15]
want to acknowledge all of this because
[2:37:16]
I feel like not you, but we are seem to
[2:37:19]
be glossing over that this is a good
[2:37:21]
problem to have now, but it also is a
[2:37:25]
problem that we had that we are now
[2:37:27]
addressing. But I also want to make sure
[2:37:30]
that we're be excuse me, we're being
[2:37:31]
transparent about that, that we're not
[2:37:33]
trying to like pretend that didn't
[2:37:35]
happen because that's what I feel like
[2:37:36]
the moment, not you us. And I want to
[2:37:39]
make sure that we are acknowledging that
[2:37:42]
or I am at least acknowledging that and that we there it's a a bigger
[2:37:48]
conversation in my opinion that we have
[2:37:50]
to have with the town because this is
[2:37:52]
not our money. This is our taxpayers
[2:37:54]
money and we need to make sure that
[2:37:56]
we're being forthcoming about where this
[2:37:59]
surplus came from because in our last
[2:38:01]
public meetings we did not have a
[2:38:02]
surplus.
[2:38:04]
We were working off a deficit. We ended
[2:38:06]
up having some sort of a surplus. were
[2:38:08]
able to make some things work, but there
[2:38:10]
was a lot of turmoil and upheaval around
[2:38:13]
it. And so, I think that's where a
[2:38:15]
couple of us are a little confused why
[2:38:17]
it was being presented as though
[2:38:21]
that didn't happen. So, I just want to
[2:38:23]
make sure that I get that clear for
[2:38:25]
myself. And I just want to state for the
[2:38:27]
record, I I am in agreement with you on that this is this we we did put the
[2:38:32]
town through a a difficult budget
[2:38:33]
process based on information that was
[2:38:36]
unclear at the time that we had it and I
[2:38:40]
know Mr. Crui is presenting to us as
[2:38:42]
fact now since it's you know this is
[2:38:45]
what it is but I don't think we can uh
[2:38:47]
or nor should we ignore the fact that happened. We had that we had those
[2:38:52]
contentious meetings and very uh
[2:38:54]
difficult budget process. So we are
[2:38:58]
where we are now and we do need to move
[2:38:59]
forward but I don't think we can move
[2:39:00]
forward without acknowledging that. So I
[2:39:03]
don't I don't want to gloss over it
[2:39:04]
either.
[2:39:05]
>> And also you know just being
[2:39:09]
with the public right now that we are
[2:39:13]
acknowledging this information as you
[2:39:16]
receive it. um
[2:39:20]
you know to inv
[2:39:24]
like Kate did. I agree with her when she
[2:39:27]
says um we kind of lost sight of that
[2:39:31]
and it may not have been it wasn't
[2:39:34]
intentional at all. Not on our part
[2:39:37]
anyway, but it happened. And so being
[2:39:41]
aware of it now, uh we just need to make
[2:39:45]
sure that while at this table when we're
[2:39:48]
receiving this information that we are
[2:39:51]
acknowledging it so that the people in
[2:39:54]
the community, our town know that we're
[2:39:58]
holding ourselves accountable,
[2:40:01]
right?
[2:40:02]
And I'll just And I'll say I think as a
[2:40:05]
committee we we trusted
[2:40:08]
our administration and certain
[2:40:10]
individuals too. I I I think I think we
[2:40:13]
need to take a look at ourselves and say
[2:40:15]
we need to be more critical and more
[2:40:18]
you know more aggressive in pushing for
[2:40:20]
information going forward. Uh whether we
[2:40:22]
trust the person or not I I I think you
[2:40:25]
know to Mr. Gucci's point from earlier
[2:40:27]
talking having November and February
[2:40:30]
updates having this monthly where are we
[2:40:32]
spending things where are things going
[2:40:34]
those are going to really make
[2:40:36]
everything a lot more transparent for us
[2:40:38]
uh not only for the community at large
[2:40:40]
but for us at the table I think that is
[2:40:42]
something we we absolutely need to
[2:40:45]
commit to going forward um to make sure
[2:40:47]
we don't end up in a similar situation
[2:40:49]
in the future. We want to make sure
[2:40:50]
we're being as transparent as possible
[2:40:53]
with the taxpayer dollars that we are
[2:40:55]
stewards of and prevent things like
[2:40:58]
this. You know, I I don't I don't want
[2:41:00]
to go through this.
[2:41:01]
>> I just want to say that I I want to
[2:41:04]
piggy back on what Paula said. We were
[2:41:06]
operating with the information we had as
[2:41:10]
we obtained it. And even as late as July
[2:41:14]
28th,
[2:41:16]
I specifically asked if we knew what the
[2:41:20]
number was for the end of the year. And
[2:41:21]
we were told told we had a small
[2:41:24]
approximately $300,000
[2:41:26]
surplus. And to find out just weeks
[2:41:29]
later that it was 1.7 was
[2:41:33]
astonishing.
[2:41:35]
And and it's also very frustrating
[2:41:39]
because we had put our community through
[2:41:42]
a terrible budget
[2:41:44]
season that we just didn't have to have
[2:41:47]
if we had known the right numbers. So,
[2:41:50]
we need to put reporting in place so
[2:41:54]
that we do know the numbers are real
[2:41:57]
that I mean, we trust what people tell
[2:41:59]
us and we'll continue to trust people,
[2:42:01]
but we need the reporting um to to
[2:42:04]
actually see it and be on top of it
[2:42:06]
ourselves. And I think that's why I I
[2:42:08]
agree. We need to start meeting with the
[2:42:11]
sub subcommittee. Um, and I do want to
[2:42:14]
apologize
[2:42:16]
to the town, our community for having
[2:42:20]
this horrible budget cycle that wasn't
[2:42:23]
needed, but we just didn't know, but we need to do better and have better
[2:42:30]
information going forward.
[2:42:33]
>> Agreed. and and I'm sorry I I would just
[2:42:36]
want to make sure that you know it's not
[2:42:37]
targeted at you because I think the
[2:42:39]
pieces that you're putting into place
[2:42:40]
and the information that you've been
[2:42:42]
able to pull forward and these templates
[2:42:44]
that you're putting forward for us to
[2:42:46]
review on a monthly basis make sure that
[2:42:48]
we have full knowledge um on a very
[2:42:53]
granular level what we're navigating and
[2:42:56]
then also we the town also will have it.
[2:42:59]
So when we are having these budget
[2:43:01]
conversations, everybody has the
[2:43:03]
information, the actual information in
[2:43:05]
front of them instead of just sort of
[2:43:08]
hoping that what's being presented to us
[2:43:10]
is accurate. So thank you. If I could
[2:43:13]
just make one small comment, I know I've
[2:43:16]
been speaking quite a bit. Um um
[2:43:20]
starting what you just discussed and
[2:43:22]
acknowledging it from your levels, I
[2:43:26]
think provides a lot of credibility to
[2:43:28]
the community.
[2:43:29]
But also concurrent with that is a small
[2:43:34]
example.
[2:43:35]
Okay, if I have uh a purchase order for
[2:43:40]
so many students going out of district
[2:43:42]
that I put in in October and kids come
[2:43:44]
and go and all of a sudden there's 15
[2:43:46]
kids who are no longer going out of
[2:43:47]
district because they decide to stay in
[2:43:50]
town,
[2:43:51]
the folks in the field who have the
[2:43:54]
purchase order in the system
[2:43:57]
have no real reason to call up the
[2:44:01]
business office and say disencumber a
[2:44:04]
half a million dollars in tuition
[2:44:05]
because the students left. Okay. So, I
[2:44:09]
get it. The the the leadership in your
[2:44:12]
fiscal office is the is the primary
[2:44:14]
cheerleader for everybody. It's not just
[2:44:17]
the system breakdown of how they didn't
[2:44:19]
know. If you've got we just put it in at
[2:44:22]
the end of the year like in July, we can
[2:44:24]
just close it because now we know we
[2:44:26]
don't need it. Well, even when I got on
[2:44:29]
board and I ran some early preliminary
[2:44:31]
numbers because I was working on
[2:44:33]
maintenance of effort for the community
[2:44:35]
and I needed some of that data,
[2:44:38]
I saw purchase orders on July 10th
[2:44:41]
exceeding $1.2 million. And I'm like,
[2:44:44]
could there be that many bills out in
[2:44:45]
the system?
[2:44:47]
So, if I'm reading the system reports
[2:44:50]
and I'm seeing incumbrances owed for
[2:44:52]
$1.2 2 million. Yes, I could come
[2:44:56]
quickly to the same conclusion unless I
[2:44:58]
do the detailed extraction of what line
[2:45:03]
items are these impacting and who do I
[2:45:05]
got to talk to to validate whether they
[2:45:07]
need transportation busing, whether they
[2:45:09]
have out of district students, is there
[2:45:11]
some capital project that hasn't got to
[2:45:13]
completion, um has it been delayed and
[2:45:16]
it's going to happen next year. None of
[2:45:18]
that's happening in the fields because
[2:45:20]
there's not really a sense of urgency.
[2:45:24]
Okay. By creating the year end process
[2:45:28]
of November and February, the business
[2:45:31]
office will be working with principles
[2:45:33]
and leaders in the schools and the
[2:45:35]
clerks in the schools. They'll start to
[2:45:37]
understand
[2:45:38]
how important it is if there's some
[2:45:41]
material change in some of the purchase
[2:45:43]
orders. Something as simple as
[2:45:45]
facilities.
[2:45:47]
The guy's got to go to the hardware
[2:45:48]
store to pick up some pipe or a fixture
[2:45:51]
to fix a sink. So, we got an open
[2:45:53]
purchase order for that hardware store.
[2:45:55]
Well, if we don't fix anything because
[2:45:57]
nothing broke and there's a $25,000 one
[2:46:00]
purchase order at one store times five
[2:46:03]
stores, there's $125,000. We're all
[2:46:06]
going to assume this bill's coming in
[2:46:07]
and all of a sudden it evaporates
[2:46:09]
because oh, we're not going and now
[2:46:11]
we're buying the stuff in July and
[2:46:12]
that's next fiscal year. So, give me a
[2:46:14]
new PO for $25,000.
[2:46:16]
only spent three and I've been telling
[2:46:17]
everybody we're going to spend 25. So,
[2:46:19]
you're setting the table is helping the
[2:46:23]
rest of the district realize how
[2:46:25]
important those nickels and dimes and
[2:46:28]
tens of thousands of dollars that may be
[2:46:30]
in the system that makes it more
[2:46:31]
difficult. So, that when you have things
[2:46:34]
that are outside of the scope, they'll
[2:46:36]
pop to the top because we're always down
[2:46:39]
to $50,000 at this time of the year and
[2:46:41]
I got 275 still in there. How come? Oh,
[2:46:44]
I got one purchase order for this
[2:46:46]
particular issue. Yay or nay. Got a
[2:46:50]
problem or it's going to happen in
[2:46:51]
August. That's next year. Get rid of it
[2:46:53]
out of the system. So really, thank you
[2:46:55]
for providing that support to get how
[2:46:59]
critical folks contribution is for those
[2:47:02]
activities because that is what your
[2:47:04]
cheerleader is going to do when they go
[2:47:05]
on like here's what's going on. I got to
[2:47:07]
do this. It's not just us. I mean me.
[2:47:10]
It's us. It's a picture of us. we need
[2:47:12]
to work together to create the right
[2:47:14]
picture. So, thank you for your support
[2:47:15]
for that.
[2:47:17]
So, um, like my, um, colleagues at the
[2:47:22]
table said, I'm very grateful for these
[2:47:25]
figures that, um,
[2:47:29]
that we're seeing now, but, um, as other
[2:47:34]
members of the committee have said, we
[2:47:36]
created a budget
[2:47:39]
based on incorrect numbers
[2:47:43]
and
[2:47:46]
In my opinion,
[2:47:49]
we created a lot of angst in the
[2:47:51]
community with students, with families,
[2:47:55]
with the town council, and that was
[2:47:58]
unnecessary.
[2:48:00]
So now we are presenting numbers
[2:48:07]
that are accurate and um moving forward
[2:48:13]
um we can we can see
[2:48:17]
um how I mean we we've got to see some
[2:48:21]
way how we can
[2:48:24]
fix this. we, you know, I mean, other
[2:48:27]
than apologizing to the community
[2:48:30]
for based on the false figures,
[2:48:34]
um, you know, I don't see what we can do, but the community needs
[2:48:41]
to know that we're trying to write the
[2:48:45]
ship.
[2:48:49]
if if I may, um, for what it's worth, as
[2:48:52]
superintendent of of the district and
[2:48:55]
who, uh, put forward the budget
[2:48:57]
proposals given the numbers there, um,
[2:49:02]
and from day one talking about
[2:49:05]
transparency, from day one talking about
[2:49:08]
students first and that what we put
[2:49:12]
forward was done with that with that in
[2:49:16]
mind. We came here to build things, not
[2:49:19]
take them apart. We're fully com
[2:49:23]
committed to that. Um, and that apology
[2:49:27]
to the the committee, to the students,
[2:49:30]
to the town council, to the public whose
[2:49:33]
budget meetings got turned upside down.
[2:49:38]
on behalf of as superintendent, I
[2:49:41]
apologize to the committee, apologize to
[2:49:43]
the town council, and we'll look to do
[2:49:46]
so in part next time uh that I'm there.
[2:49:49]
Um I'd also though, you know, apologize
[2:49:53]
not only to the students and the
[2:49:55]
families who showed up, but every person
[2:49:59]
for the past two years who is not with
[2:50:02]
the organization anymore or was getting
[2:50:05]
pinklip. I met with each and every one
[2:50:07]
of those people. I looked at them. I
[2:50:10]
said, "Family, I mean, this is your
[2:50:13]
livelihood." And so, mo most importantly
[2:50:18]
to me for people who are no longer with
[2:50:21]
the district, um, there's an apology
[2:50:24]
there.
[2:50:26]
The most well, not the most, that is the
[2:50:29]
most unfortunate part. Another
[2:50:31]
unfortunate part here is that there are
[2:50:33]
great things in here to celebrate.
[2:50:36]
that had we been updating accurately and
[2:50:42]
regularly, we could be celebrating an
[2:50:45]
increase of revenue from students
[2:50:47]
wanting to come to South Kingtown and
[2:50:49]
coming to South Kingtown.
[2:50:51]
that we have an amazing director of
[2:50:55]
student services student and team there
[2:50:57]
student service director of the year
[2:50:59]
who's doing Medicaid billing and getting
[2:51:02]
reimbursement and to make those
[2:51:04]
adjustments and ultimately
[2:51:08]
know ultimately to be here now I'm you
[2:51:11]
know again I would be remiss if as the
[2:51:14]
superintendent that I did not apologize
[2:51:18]
um and promise to the community that it
[2:51:20]
will not happen again. These things will
[2:51:23]
be vetted. We will do better and we will
[2:51:26]
uh keep building moving forward. Uh and
[2:51:31]
by the I believe at our second meeting
[2:51:33]
in September, I'm extremely confident in
[2:51:37]
what Mr. Fucci will be able to present
[2:51:40]
as a accurate, researched and validated
[2:51:45]
FY27
[2:51:47]
that and plan moving forward that this
[2:51:50]
committee and the community uh will be
[2:51:53]
proud of.
[2:51:55]
>> Thank you.
[2:51:57]
>> I think I think Oh,
[2:52:00]
one thing I want to say is just you're
[2:52:03]
right. There are things to celebrate in
[2:52:04]
here and having increased revenue for
[2:52:06]
Medicaid reimbursements and having
[2:52:07]
increased revenue from students. But we
[2:52:10]
can all see and I think this is a lesson
[2:52:12]
we can all take home is that having that
[2:52:14]
lack of transparency has turned what
[2:52:16]
should be an objectively good thing that
[2:52:18]
we have funding for the schools. We
[2:52:20]
probably will be in a position to have a good conversation around FY28.
[2:52:26]
It is has put a Paul on on that. Uh so a
[2:52:31]
simple thing just not having the right
[2:52:34]
information at the right time has turned
[2:52:37]
what should be something good into
[2:52:38]
something that we have to apologize for.
[2:52:41]
It's so I think it's a lesson we can all
[2:52:43]
take home that transparency is vital and
[2:52:46]
important and and communication is key.
[2:52:52]
» Yeah. I just want to thank everybody
[2:52:53]
here for um
[2:52:57]
the questions they raised tonight, but
[2:53:02]
being conscious of how important this
[2:53:04]
all is to the community. And I want to
[2:53:06]
thank the superintendent
[2:53:08]
for the words that you just said and and
[2:53:12]
actually for the apology to our
[2:53:14]
community. Um, I thank you for that. And
[2:53:18]
I know that
[2:53:21]
we've got some really encouraging things
[2:53:25]
that we've learned, some really great
[2:53:28]
numbers that we can celebrate, and now
[2:53:31]
we just need to look at the 2027 budget,
[2:53:33]
continue to do that work, and then we'll
[2:53:36]
have a final idea of really what we're
[2:53:39]
dealing with because I still don't we
[2:53:41]
still don't have that piece. So, we're still in the middle of this and um
[2:53:47]
so we'll be back to revisit this again.
[2:53:50]
So, but thank you also Tony.
[2:53:56]
All right. Um that will bring us to the
[2:53:58]
next one. Discussion action capital
[2:54:00]
improvement plan update fiscal year 2027
[2:54:04]
and the impact on the five-year plan.
[2:54:07]
>> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, on a
[2:54:10]
hopefully a a seriously uptick note, um,
[2:54:14]
last year I got involved with the
[2:54:16]
five-year capital plan. And last year I
[2:54:19]
took over a document that had five years
[2:54:21]
of information and kept getting rolled
[2:54:24]
forward with comments about, well, we're
[2:54:26]
not funding, you know, we got to be next
[2:54:28]
year needing five or six million dollars
[2:54:29]
worth of work and the funding's not
[2:54:31]
there and we just roll it. That turned
[2:54:34]
into what can we afford and how do we
[2:54:36]
make presentations. And so we did that
[2:54:37]
last year and the superintendent and I
[2:54:39]
met with the town manager and the
[2:54:41]
finance director and we went through it
[2:54:42]
and we had some very good conversations
[2:54:44]
about it. The critical element being
[2:54:47]
that we have a maintenance of effort
[2:54:49]
issue with the state and if we don't
[2:54:50]
meet those objectives then that state
[2:54:52]
aid that comes to the community will be
[2:54:54]
held back. And so with that as a
[2:54:57]
backdraft, we presented a two-year plan
[2:55:00]
with the budgets being about $2 million
[2:55:02]
because we thought that might be
[2:55:04]
fundable and then everything was pushed
[2:55:06]
off. But myself in the transition in
[2:55:09]
your facilities area, your leadership
[2:55:11]
there, your history, how these numbers
[2:55:14]
came about, what is this project that
[2:55:16]
really talking about? When I go in
[2:55:18]
there, it doesn't look like it's maybe
[2:55:20]
it's been done. So there was a lot of
[2:55:21]
uncertainty of even the validity of the
[2:55:23]
projects because of the history of it.
[2:55:26]
I'm happy to announce tonight that we're
[2:55:29]
going through the same process because
[2:55:30]
you do this every year. We've got a
[2:55:32]
facilities director that came on board
[2:55:34]
and he's been impressive so far. I'm
[2:55:36]
really enjoying working with him. I
[2:55:39]
think he's going to take the bull by the
[2:55:40]
horns and and really make this district
[2:55:42]
elevate its uh performance building base
[2:55:45]
wise etc. But systematically with that
[2:55:49]
conversation came up, what's the
[2:55:50]
validity of the dollars of the projects?
[2:55:53]
And so I talked with the superintendent
[2:55:54]
and he and he has supported the idea
[2:55:57]
rather than the finance director and the
[2:55:59]
facilities director getting together and
[2:56:01]
trying to come up with a five-year plan
[2:56:03]
and all the impacts on the community,
[2:56:04]
what the building needs are, and then
[2:56:05]
trying to get that communication out
[2:56:07]
what the funding is and blah blah blah. We took it to the next level.
[2:56:12]
We created a community I mean excuse me
[2:56:15]
a capital improvements administrative
[2:56:18]
team responsible for making a
[2:56:20]
recommendation and that team consists of
[2:56:23]
the fiscal person. It consists of the
[2:56:26]
facilities director but it also
[2:56:28]
consisted of we need somebody who's got
[2:56:30]
the academic needs of students involved.
[2:56:33]
They also needed somebody who had at
[2:56:34]
least some history. And most important
[2:56:37]
from my seat was the validity of the
[2:56:41]
data and how it was generated.
[2:56:44]
I wanted to have members of the
[2:56:47]
community join us from the town and I'm
[2:56:49]
happy to announce that we in fact did
[2:56:52]
create this team. This team has been
[2:56:54]
meeting for the last three weeks. We
[2:56:57]
took the report that the school
[2:57:00]
committee adopted last year as our
[2:57:01]
kickoff. We have in our hands a report
[2:57:05]
created by the state that was sent to
[2:57:07]
the district back in July of 2025
[2:57:10]
for our middle school and the three
[2:57:12]
elementary schools because of course the
[2:57:14]
high schools being brand built brand
[2:57:15]
new. We expect nothing to meet to be
[2:57:17]
done in that at least the first two
[2:57:19]
years anyway.
[2:57:20]
Um, but we took that report and this the school committee's approved
[2:57:29]
five-year plan
[2:57:31]
and we met with John Ghoul, who is your
[2:57:33]
intram facilities director last year,
[2:57:35]
who's got some historical knowledge of
[2:57:37]
the district. The two community members
[2:57:39]
who joined us happened to be Mr. Mark
[2:57:42]
Russo, I believe he's the DPW director,
[2:57:45]
or facilities director for the town and
[2:57:47]
the town finance director. And everybody
[2:57:49]
came to our meetings every meeting and
[2:57:52]
we started with what are these reports
[2:57:55]
and how they're used and where do the
[2:57:58]
data come from. And then we took the
[2:57:59]
next step. I introduced that the state
[2:58:02]
is paying housing aid based on plans
[2:58:05]
that they've approved that they're
[2:58:07]
willing to pay. One plan expired this
[2:58:10]
past June. So anything after July 1st
[2:58:13]
this going forward won't be reimbursed
[2:58:16]
from that particular approval. We have
[2:58:18]
one approval left that goes through
[2:58:21]
December 2028.
[2:58:24]
Okay. In order to get an approval from
[2:58:26]
RIDE for this what they call memorandum
[2:58:29]
of agreement takes about 18 months. So
[2:58:33]
an application that goes in in September
[2:58:36]
if it's considered to be moved along in
[2:58:39]
rise estimation documents need to be
[2:58:41]
submitted by the following February or
[2:58:43]
March. We call that a stage two. and
[2:58:47]
then they have eight months to make a
[2:58:48]
decision. So that'll put them someplace
[2:58:51]
after the initial September date. So now
[2:58:55]
as a backdraft we go 5 years. 5 years
[2:58:58]
will put us out to 2032.
[2:59:01]
Government approval ends December 2028.
[2:59:05]
Two years it's all we have.
[2:59:08]
Okay. What happens in those future
[2:59:10]
years? Everybody understands it.
[2:59:14]
the t that the team's effort was to do a
[2:59:17]
host of things. We're going to focus in
[2:59:19]
on what's going to get completed in the
[2:59:21]
next two years. What makes economic
[2:59:23]
sense and what can the community
[2:59:25]
support?
[2:59:26]
What are we going to do for the next
[2:59:28]
three years? And if this pushes us past
[2:59:31]
December 2028, how are we prepared to
[2:59:34]
make that application process work? And
[2:59:37]
what's the timetable? The timetable is
[2:59:40]
December of 2027.
[2:59:43]
The application has to go in if you want
[2:59:46]
to have a housing aid reimbursement in
[2:59:48]
place after the next memorandum of
[2:59:51]
agreement goes away.
[2:59:53]
The following February 2028, we have to
[2:59:56]
put in the stage two documents they
[2:59:59]
request. They'll make a decision
[3:00:01]
sometime in September, October of 2028
[3:00:05]
that they'll give us an award effective
[3:00:07]
January 1st, 2029. That's two months
[3:00:10]
before the last sunset. So taking all of
[3:00:13]
this information in, our team has gone
[3:00:16]
through and we said, "Oh, these are
[3:00:19]
projects are completed. These projects
[3:00:20]
are not needed. This doesn't seem
[3:00:22]
budgetarily to be accurate. We're going
[3:00:24]
to do more research. What does the state
[3:00:26]
say?" We triaged all of these pieces.
[3:00:29]
We've come up with a roster for each of
[3:00:31]
the four schools, the middle school and
[3:00:33]
the three elementary schools. I thought
[3:00:36]
it was critical, superintendent
[3:00:37]
supported it, that we actually do
[3:00:39]
building walks. We want to meet with the
[3:00:41]
principal. We want their input as to
[3:00:44]
what they think they need for student
[3:00:45]
needs in their buildings. We're going to
[3:00:47]
share with them what we're looking at
[3:00:49]
projectwise.
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That's beginning tomorrow. We are going
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to Matunic and then we're heading up to
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Broad Rock. Friday we're going I West
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Kingston and then Peaceale.
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The team will be reconvening next week.
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the facilities director and I are going
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to be working on a capital improvement
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plan budget, excuse me, capital budget
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for 2027,
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and I'll have that for you by the end of
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September.
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It will target the things we have to
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accomplish by the end of June. We need a
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million dollars of projects completed
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every year as a minimum on top of the
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investment we're making in maintenance
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people and maintenance supplies, etc.
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and the debt interest payments that the
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town makes. That all gets added
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together. We have to provide 2% uh is it
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2% of our operating budget. No, it's
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more than that. It's over $2 million. So
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maybe 4%. My calc's off top my head
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getting tired. Um but it's a little over
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$2 million a year. So a million of it
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has to be capital improvements.
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We need to get things done this year and
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we'll have that roster done. Next year,
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2027.
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Um, actually 28 because it'll be June
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the 28th. Okay. We have the summer of
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2027 to do major construction if we want
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reimbursement
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from the currently approved document
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with ride. Okay. So we we are going to
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present a 28 recommendation as well.
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Okay. June 2028 fiscal year closes. July
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1st 2028 we have six months to do any
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major construction where we need
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reimbursement. We will have a plan for
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the summer of 2028 which puts us into
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2029.
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But we'll get it done before Christmas.
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We'll have recommendations how to fund
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it. Our conversations with the town
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manager will absolutely be critical on the summer work for 2027
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and the summer work for 2028 because if
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we're going to be doing $2 million worth
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of roofs or $2 or $3 million worth of
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HVAC systems or anything else of that
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critical need, the size and scope of
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those projects require bid documents.
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You need your vendor to be appointed by
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April, if not sooner,
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because then they will have their trucks
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in our parking lot on June 15th saying,
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"When can we go to work?" Because we got
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to get the work done over the summer.
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So, those are the objectives that we'll
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be working on. Um,
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but I hope and so far it's been
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extremely cooperative and productive.
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the team we put together to validate the
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dollars,
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identify the source of the projects, and
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then the prioritization of those
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projects to meet the objectives of the
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community. And so in the budget cycle,
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I'll talk about the housing aid again
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coming in and the rather revenues that
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we may have available to fund them. But
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I can't thank the committee or the
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superintendent enough to take it to this
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next level of sophistication
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and creating your new 5-year plan
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recommendation because it is aligned
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with what ride will need for a
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submission in September. They won't
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accept just the finance director and
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with facilities director with the
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superintendent having a plan. They want
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to see community participation. We've
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got that. we're keeping people apprised
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of what's going on and we'll be able to
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speak to that and we've engaged our
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local community uh officials to join us
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and it's been extremely productive. So,
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I'm just really proud of the work this
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team is doing and I think the outcome is
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going to drive a lot of really good
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conversations for the community and I
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look forward to going over and working
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with the town manager and the town
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finance director in October to say we
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can cover this year. What are we going
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to do the summer of 28 and what are we
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going to do in the summer of 29? How do
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we get there? And if we can do 90% of
[3:05:09]
the work, maybe we won't need an OA for
[3:05:13]
more capital projects. If we can get the
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bulk of the things that are being
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identified done in those two years, we
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could be way way ahead of the game. If
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not, we'll know what our next layers of
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work are. So, I'm happy to answer
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questions, but I'm very excited about
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how the table's getting set for that
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future conversation. So, thank you.
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I don't have a question. Just to thank
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you for your enthusiasm, your
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proactivity on this. We have not seen
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that in years when it comes to this
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particular topic. Um, and so I
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appreciate what you've put together, the
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folks you've gathered trust, very highly
[3:05:50]
trusted in our community, both on the
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town side and the school side. So, thank
[3:05:55]
you um for this and I look forward to um
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what you present to us in September
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2026,
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so next month.
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» I agree with Kate. I think it's great to
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collaborate with the town and bring in
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those two people that actually work for
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the town to be on the committee. I think
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that is going to go a long way to
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helping us work together to make our
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buildings better and improved. So, um,
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it just thank you for all this work. I'm
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really excited to see the plan that they
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that was just an update. So, that it's
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not an action. Um, just so you know, we
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we've decided to put discussion action
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because if there's something else that
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comes up that we want to act on, it
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allows us to just out of an abundance of um caution that we might have
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something. Um, so is there any other
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comments on that item on the capital for
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that plan?
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Okay, then we're going to move on to our
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last item, the discussion, school
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building committee uh status update of
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the new high school and athletic field
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stadium complex at Chris Corner.
[3:07:20]
So, it's a talk about an exciting
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item. Um lot lots of exciting work going
[3:07:27]
on next door. As we can see, the uh
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brick has started to go on the academic
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tower, which is it's it's funny because
[3:07:35]
you're like, "Oh, it's brick going on a
[3:07:36]
building," but it is exciting when you
[3:07:38]
come up to your like, "Oh, it's starting
[3:07:40]
to look like a school building." Um,
[3:07:42]
instead of just a big steel building.
[3:07:44]
Um, so continuous progress keeping us on
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time, continuing to demonstrate that we
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are under budget. Um,
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as far as Curtis Corner goes, there's
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been a slight delay with the demo of the
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Curtis Corner um, school itself, um,
[3:08:03]
completely out of all of our, uh,
[3:08:06]
spheres of influence and, uh, areas of
[3:08:09]
control. We're waiting on Rhode Island
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Energy to disconnect our utility. And
[3:08:14]
so, we cannot start demo until Rhode
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Island Energy does that. So, Rhode
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Island Energy is listening. You're
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delaying us and we need you to move. um
[3:08:22]
because we can't move forward with demo
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until that happens. Um we have made a a
[3:08:29]
plea to the town, you know, if if um our
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town manager or deputy manager or the
[3:08:35]
town council has any connections that
[3:08:37]
can assist there, that would be uh very
[3:08:40]
much uh helpful. I know that um and you
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know in Rhode Island Energy's defense,
[3:08:45]
they have a lot going on and they do
[3:08:47]
have a kind of their a pack schedule for
[3:08:49]
themselves, but that is that is the only
[3:08:51]
holdup. It's not delaying any part of
[3:08:53]
the project because the demo once it
[3:08:56]
starts it will be quick and and easy
[3:08:57]
over there. Um so we continue right
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along um with all of our kind of all of
[3:09:03]
our steps that we're moving through. No
[3:09:06]
real we we had a very short meeting on
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Thursday. Um no no major developments outside of just
[3:09:15]
work is continuing as planned. Um, we do
[3:09:19]
have a small committee of folks that
[3:09:21]
have been pulled together for to start
[3:09:24]
now developing the traffic flow for next
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school year. So, not starting um in two
[3:09:31]
weeks, but in uh September of 27 because
[3:09:35]
what's going to happen is when we
[3:09:38]
transfer everybody over to the new
[3:09:40]
building, this building will still
[3:09:43]
exist. And this is and this is where
[3:09:46]
traffic flow is supposed to go and
[3:09:47]
parking is supposed to go. So we do have
[3:09:50]
a team that's being pulled together
[3:09:52]
includes town manager, includes the
[3:09:54]
chief of police and um includes our
[3:09:56]
administrative team um as to what the
[3:09:59]
temporary traffic flow will be for the
[3:10:03]
26 27 uh excuse me 27 28 school year
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while this building gets demolished and
[3:10:09]
the new parking lot and roadway um gets developed. So um we're trying to
[3:10:15]
forward think all those things because
[3:10:17]
as we know this school year is starting
[3:10:21]
like what as two weeks from now. So time
[3:10:23]
is going by like this and so we don't
[3:10:25]
want to delay any important decisions.
[3:10:28]
So we're trying to stay on top of
[3:10:29]
anything that will uh maybe sneak up on
[3:10:32]
us. Um so as far as this school year we
[3:10:36]
still have we'll have this parking lot.
[3:10:37]
Nothing will change for the traffic
[3:10:40]
patterns um that started last year.
[3:10:42]
it'll be the same traffic globe for for
[3:10:44]
this year, but we do want to be
[3:10:46]
proactive for next year. So, um I don't
[3:10:49]
have really any other significant
[3:10:52]
milestone updates other than we're just
[3:10:54]
cruising along um as planned. Um but
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unless somebody has any specific
[3:10:58]
questions uh for me or even for Michael
[3:11:01]
on the on the topic.
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» Thank you. And uh so if there's nothing
[3:11:10]
else then I will be happy to make a
[3:11:12]
motion to adjurnn.
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» All those in favor I
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>> that motion passes.
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We are adjourned at 8:05.