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I mean, get this going.
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Okay. All right, you're ready? Yes. All right. We're going to call our Southwest
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Behavioral Health Authority Board meeting to order today on March 11, 2026. I guess I'm in charge today.
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Victor, your aye, your sentence will excuse him and also excuse all cousins as well. Welcome,
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everybody else. First thing on the agenda is going to prove the minutes of January.
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I'm sorry, there's any questions or disturbances?
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No, no.
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In your can of motion.
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How make a motion to approve the January minute
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since presented?
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OK, I'll second.
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See this is only you two here today to do that.
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I guess that's basically what you take part in, right?
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Just take a turn to that for all of the labor.
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Hi.
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Thank you, Davis.
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I guess I felt a mention you're with us today as a visitor
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or are we just going to do a clinical report?
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Oh, down the bottom.
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Okay, we'll miss it. I work for Southwest. I'm a prevention supervisor for iron giver
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Yeah
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Yeah, is that your son? Oh, yeah, okay, that's why you're also recognized. That's not really why you really recognize me from
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Okay, he's got a new job. Still the yes
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All right, Mike your next I guess by month or the operation before yes
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The first piece on the agenda is our new hires and separations.
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We didn't have none of these are terminations or fires.
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And it's actually a pretty low number for us.
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One that we are super excited,
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that's a little difficult to feel sometimes,
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is our SMR clinicians,
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our previous SMR clinician,
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position, move back east, this is from New York and so it's a position that's kind of a niche
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there, it's a position you can actually just got an experience and crisis, it's worked
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in the emergency room for a while at a hospital and we're super excited about it.
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What's SMR, SMR is stabilization, mobile response, what it basically is is if they run
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in conjunction with the MCOT team, climate, MCOT team will go out to a crisis and it involves
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the use of the family then we have the SMR program which their mission is to
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then come in and generally speaking it's like four to eight weeks they spend
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with the family with the intent of stabilizing basically the family system
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because the family system is maybe dysregulated to a point where regular treatment
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therapy and things of that nature is an effective so that's their role is to
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try and stabilize that and they go to the home so there's no requirements that
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come to the office or tell you how they're doing anything of that nature that's
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what this is. Bring in function to the dysfunction. That's a difficult
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There's no key filter.
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Generally, it's not too difficult.
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It's a little tricky to find someone.
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Because it's not they have one.
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One thing, they do have a lot of autonomy.
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Like, they can come in at 11,
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because they may work at 8.
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They just got a lot of autonomy,
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and they have a big struggle a lot.
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Because that therapist covered all five counties.
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And then, and then they said, they go,
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and assess and work with basically the family system.
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It's kind of their big target.
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And they look at not only just family system dynamics
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and things of that major, but resources.
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And because we do have, and we ended up
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getting a grant from an amount of help to help with resources
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like we have that money, we have the ability to help people with land, food, transportation,
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needs of that nature that may impede them to receive the services that are needed.
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Generally, the piece that brings in the SNR team isn't and called call.
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However, that's not required.
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Do you need to prove on that, is that your policy report?
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Yeah, do you?
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Yeah, do you prove it on that?
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I prove them individually?
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Yeah.
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I'm mostly doing it through.
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Second.
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Oh, favorite?
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I.
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Thanks, you too.
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So I put the data in hand.
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All right.
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My answer report.
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My mouth, the hand.
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I should work.
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Guys, the major expenses, some of the big items,
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items, this John Henry Smith insurance, that's our liability insurance. That's an annual payment, so this is one and done.
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That is a big amount, yes, for liability insurance and property.
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Honestly, it doesn't feel like that much considering the...
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So if we ever used it though, I mean, over the years we use it a lot.
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We have, that I know, I don't think we have used it, that would be a question you've probably
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used. I think we're required to have it. So we've got, it's one of those things you can't
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get rid of even if you don't use it, but I don't think it's been used very often, but when we
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needed, we really needed. Is that my relation to all the providers?
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Yes, I think it includes, it's really necessary, I mean you got to have.
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And sometimes from my understanding of liability insurance with mental health, the bigger
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the agency, of course the higher the number is going to go within and kind of progresses
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on how high the number is versus like a single therapist in private practice.
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Is there any, is there any questions on page one or two?
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No.
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How was the cat 10?
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We had a good trip.
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We actually said it's probably one of our better trips.
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Good meetings with representatives.
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I just saw her on the list.
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Yeah, I know.
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I saw that.
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Well, at first, when it said show them a reimbursement for cat, I'm like, wait a minute,
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we didn't reimburse her that much.
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But then I got thinking about the podium and how we do with the car.
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And then we just pay for the kids and put it all on one car instead of just have trouble
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in the past where you give the kids a car that's got $500 on it.
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They either donate and think I'm going to save it and buy someone I get home or they blow
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through their money in like three days and then you're like I'm sorry you're
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going to have to start yeah we just it's better it works that well because when
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you go to a restaurant they don't want to do you know 18 separate checks and
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so we just put it all on one and tell them how much you have and you know so that's
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why but for a minute I'm like what I think that's wrong but then I realize what it was
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for so yeah then
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another item to highlight is this one the biggest behavioral
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health that's for dental insurance because it's a UVic plant so we pay Davis and
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all of the authorities in the state pay Davis, the behavioral health and then
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Davis pays the plant. And so that's it that's just for one month and
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the
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200,000 for liability is an annual. Then
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one last one to highlight the Washington
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County Court of Support Services that's passed through dollars.
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Any other
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Any other questions on pay, want, to please?
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I'll see dental insurance cost as much per year as liability that's more than I thought
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that was going to be.
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Pay, don't ask any other questions from Mike at all and I'll entertain a motion to approve
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the financial report.
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Chair, I move that we approve the bi-monthly financial report.
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Second.
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All fair?
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Aye.
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Yeah, we're actually still in operations.
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Oh, you are.
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Yeah.
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Oh, sorry.
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Yeah, that's all right.
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Well, if anything really alarming happens, we'll re-send our vote or take a revenge.
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Okay.
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If we don't approve of what you're about to present.
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I thought they were approved individually.
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But so now I'm sure we've been approved these independently the rest of them.
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Okay, but we could have disperse.
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A couple of reasons.
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Yeah, the way I was tracking this, I believe we're stealing the operations report.
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But here's the risk management report, a couple of things to highlight on the client behavior.
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One of those at Mountain View was a client who was picked up by the Cedar City PD for
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asking people in the neighborhood for a gun, and the client had brought back Mountain View
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and the client had been decompensating,
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and then accelerated at these point in the state
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to pretty quick, however, we had the client stabilized
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and the psychosis is not an issue as of right now.
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That was one we needed to bring up.
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Another one is at Desert Haven.
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That's our residential substance use treatment
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in St. George for pregnant.
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and four mothers with children.
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And we had a client that was very confrontational
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and aggressive and we had to call the police,
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which used to remain staffed with her knife.
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And that person ended up going to jail.
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And then on the outpatient medication pass,
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because there's some clients we go around
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and give them medications.
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We have what's called the MedPass.
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And this one, the client had to go to the ER.
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because the raw medications was given to the client.
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And that is something we take very serious,
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but we thought we needed to make sure
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that you were aware of that.
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And of course, raw medications is an automatic write-up
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or a corrective action plan.
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Give it some that we just can't have.
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And this client is, say, volatile enough.
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Sometimes we had her go to the ER
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or to be observed to make sure that everything was okay and everything ended up being fine.
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The other, we have two other client deaths, both of which were deaths by suicide.
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One of them, after doing a review because anytime we have a client that dies by suicide, we
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We do a review of this case along with program managers.
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We have Bill, our licensing admin.
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He does a review as well.
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When we reviewed the case, the one was they disconnected from services and the person
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was at high risk and we tried to connect with them and did outreach.
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We went by the house, did well checks, I feel really good that we did everything that we can on that one of course we always looked back and
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could we need to go look up a couple more times or something like that.
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The other one was in services and the person was connected with services and then disconnected like missed one group.
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However, review of the case and assessments and everything else, just unfortunately was one
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of those clients that didn't show any suicide risk realistically, those are usually the
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most lethal and most dangerous.
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Any other questions on the risk management?
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I just have one there's one staff injury yes yeah the staff member at the
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St. George Office had a medical issue and fell down while walking so wasn't
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yeah and I think I remember that one because I get every incident report and I
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I think it was, and I can't remember specific, so I'm okay, but it wasn't serious.
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It's just like that.
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That's it on it.
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How
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do we entertain Washington to throw the risk management report?
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Make a slow move.
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Clear's mud.
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Second.
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These two have been great again.
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All right, all clear.
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All right.
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All right, perfect.
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Are we still on?
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Yeah, I think we're still on operation.
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Okay, the next item is the Director's Traveling for DM Report.
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Of course, this is Mike Dill's submissions. He submitted for the last few months, so he hasn't submitted for a little while. And it was paid on January 15th. It's, as you can see, that is items that he can see, for them, and travel for. The last item where it says Christmas launch minus $450, just to explain that piece.
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That was a administration, a Christmas party.
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Oh, that wasn't the lunch that we got.
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No, this is a different one.
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And for administration, we go to lunch for Christmas and have a little party and do things
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of that nature.
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And in order for ease and tracking, they pay for it with the company's card and then might
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deal pace for that out of his pocket. That's why that's a minus 450, an explanation of that piece.
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Well this number has already been improved in the financial court that you gave because he's on
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that first page. Very nice. Very nice. Very nice. Very nice. Very nice. Very nice.
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So I'll open you to do it again. Okay.
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I think we're good but thank you for putting that out.
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Then the next piece is just, I think, more information this is and because we're a government
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entity, so you're aware of what agencies are using the buildings.
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That is the outside southwest use of buildings, as you can see it's really just not any use
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in the building except for St. George.
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We are trying just to give the
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and
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solution here for a minute.
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But it's the support group for families with...
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Alonon?
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No, it's not Alonon.
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What's it?
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What's the N.A. Ladies?
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That would be...
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I think that's Alonon.
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I think that's Alonon.
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Alonon?
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That's Alonon.
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Alonon?
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Alonon?
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Yeah, for ladies, NASA,
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NASA,
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probably narcotics, anonymous, so there's Utah, just a
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guess.
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Why PPA or not say it's, what's that?
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Why PPA or not say it's, I think that was a youth.
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Did they use the buildings for free?
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Yeah, just like the meeting room or something.
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Do we want more, are you soliciting or hoping for more use?
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We provide or like to provide the use for entities such as NA and AA that are non-profit things of that nature.
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We do give requests now and then from private providers or private entities which have been a government entity
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then we're kind of shy away from those because we don't show favoritism in that, but if it's
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nonprofit or an entity that has a function such as NA and AA, yeah, we're more than willing
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to offer the bill.
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maybe I'll kind of mention that because Cain County currently well in our
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County in the city the NA and AA meet in the building of the American Legion
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Hut but then there's some changes happening to that location it used to be our
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carriage here as well and anyway there may be a need for a new home for
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in a and a soon and if there is is the
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connab building possibility yeah it's
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big enough we can definitely look into
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that okay and what about like American
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Legion or something like that is that
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too unrelated I mean to be honest a lot
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of the veterans also are have substance
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abuse and you know issues
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and so it kind of was a good fit in a way to have them all together, even though it sometimes created little frictions like they moved our dishes or whatever.
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Yeah, let me um, I'll make a note of that and I'll talk with Mike deal on that.
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Okay.
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For the American Legion?
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Yeah, I mean I just don't know for sure if they're going to need to move, but it's possible that in A and A we'll need a home.
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I
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mean, to fact, the more ability you support from outside sources, is that increase
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your liability insurance or does that, or is it just that kind of-
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It can. It usually doesn't from what I'm tracking, but we do run it through our liability manager.
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I know there's places or entities that have used Oasis House, for example, for Halloween parties, and we just run through them.
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It's not like a big deal, then.
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Yeah, they signed some sort of an agreement, what are you going to call it?
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Yeah, I guess.
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My ability to start creating stuff.
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Now, tracking that is the operation report.
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Okay.
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Well, it's going to have our original motion in the second pass.
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Okay.
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This one is financial report.
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Okay,
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we already approved it, we approved it, we approved it, we approved it, we approved it, we approved it
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Well, it's not, I don't see any, I thought that all that stuff is social, so it was a financial report
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Yes, that's why I was confused
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This is a financial report, yes
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The other one is major expenditures
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So I guess we'll do this one again, because as we have seen it, it's been
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Right
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And this is, I know the piece that my highlights all the time
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As you can see our total revenue is above our expected rate because of the
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guidance from the state to go ahead and draw the federal fundings and things
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of that nature because of things that are going on and that's why our revenue
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is above and as you can see our total expenditures are slightly under expectations
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the financial issues.
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Different insurance is way high.
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Insurance, we're working at that.
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That's because of the annual billing.
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So it's 100% okay.
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So it should stay in the same place.
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But it compares to the rise up to the year.
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Any
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questions on the mask from anyone?
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Now I entertain myself in the most dinner to put the financial book.
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I'll move.
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I'll second.
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I thought there was more.
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I was just waiting for there.
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No.
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I'll move that was here.
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Okay.
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Out of there.
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Hi.
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I'll
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continue on with legislative wrap up.
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All right.
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The legislative session as you were wrapped up on the behavioral health side,
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there wasn't anything overly dramatic or really big that half of us might talk
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about last time. One of the biggest, a couple of highlights, the homeless
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campus, campus up north that did not go through.
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However, there was some
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funding for homelessness which is most likely going to go to mostly go to the
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lost that front, which was $25 million one time, and then $7.5 million ongoing for homelessness.
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The behavioral health commission that might be a part of was granted $750,000 to help
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with initiatives and things that they're doing.
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nicotine taxes were raised, which could generate the expectation is around 40 million for homelessness, and then one thing that hit affects our receiving center,
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House Bill 572 requires that we report to law enforcement if there's a
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diversion program which we've already kind of started a diversion program so
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it's not that going to be a big shift or anything of that nature but it just
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becomes a code that we've been have to notify law enforcement if there are
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and then Medicaid match the bill that was requiring counties to do Medicaid match for some of expansion that might be talked about, that was removed as well.
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And as far as on the behavioral health side, that's really the highlights of this last session.
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No real change in funding, I guess that's the next thing as well.
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So yeah, there wasn't a lot of changes in funding and
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as far as Medicaid things stayed pretty
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stable.
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In fact, our big fear was we were going to get a lot of cuts because of the cuts that
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were needed and presented in different courses of action on how to make that happen.
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And of course, we have a lot of pieces that were on the chopping block, and we ended up
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not being tied at all as far as that goes.
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However, whatever federal changes happens may affect the fund.
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Which brings into the HR1 changes like the big, beautiful bill.
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That one, one of the biggest things with us, of course, is going to be the work requirements
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and we're tracking that moving forward
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with how we can help clients
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and help
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clients with the work verification pieces.
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Also, another thing that's coming that at least looks
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like TAM Medicaid, looks like it will follow under
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tapitation and ACO, so like the TAM Medicaid that is in what, because Washington
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County is an ACO County, TAM will fall under the ACOs and then in the other
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four counties, TAM Medicaid will then fall under us. So what that's going to do
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is everybody that is using TAM or providing TAM Medicaid will need to be a
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contract provided with us, and then the financial world through us.
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And of course, with every new year, and HR1, there's a ton of changes that are coming
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and we're just keeping up with them.
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And in fact, I have, me and my deal have a meeting every other Friday to keep up to date
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We don't want the state changes, the state changes, the work of the state guidance is involved in life and that's what it is.
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Okay.
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Any else on the Medicaid changes?
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No, that's all I have. Any other questions?
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Mic on that?
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Budget. Budget prep for the new year.
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Yes, that one will be conducted by now.
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Okay, so we have a median schedule unable first with the state office,
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some mental health to go over the grants, but they gave us some preliminary numbers.
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It looked like it would be about the same as last year for our budget from the grants.
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That is good.
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How many grants do you get?
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I think maybe 20, 30, there's a lot of different ones.
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Some are small, but the big ones come from the state.
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Are they managed by one person or are all different entities?
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Well, the prevention part of the ground, they have their own grants and they can manage
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and follow along with, and then, you know, each substance abuse and it's their own grants.
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So, you know, each part of the organization has specific grants that they follow and use.
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So they do all the applications and reporting and all that stuff, right?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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That's good.
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And the Medicaid budget, we've submitted an initial budget.
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We're a little worried this year that they might not give us what we asked for just because we've...
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We've got actually the given reforming that we asked for the last two years and I think they might want to try and close them with that back. This year, so we're kind of just waiting to hear from them on that. So that's a bit of a question mark. And then our health insurance for the New Year, we pay probably more than just about any organization I know for health insurance. And that was mainly due to three cases that have been really expensive for the insurance company. And two of those cases are going to drop.
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off of our panel. So we're hoping that we'll actually get a decrease in our insurance
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cost this year.
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Select health water from your small increase, even though those things
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are happy. So our broker has been trying to get some kids from other insurance companies
[30:50]
with that information about our population.
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So let that tell us.
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Did you say that select health?
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We've got select health right now and they did want a small increase even though we're dropping off
[31:07]
two of the main costs to them.
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So our broker has gone back to select health and is also getting some hits from other church guns.
[31:16]
We expect a decrease because we just picked up select health again.
[31:21]
County did for, you know, we were off for a year or two.
[31:24]
and we've gone back to select hell and I've gone, sometimes the line up north we use
[31:32]
CVS to get our prescriptions and they won't take select hell if they want so
[31:41]
who's your broker again, who's Gallagher? Gallagher yeah so that might be a
[31:52]
positive for us for the first time in a lot of years on the health insurance
[31:55]
we might actually have the decreased work that's what we're working for. And that
[31:59]
right now we're gathering requests from our programs for new facilities needs
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and repairs and things like that. And one question that we would like to know from
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the counties is did you provide a COLAB or a merit on on January 2026 for the
[32:17]
company this year. Did you have a cola in a merit? We just kind of wanted to know as we're doing our budget, whether, you know, we're trying to keep in line a little bit, put the counter to read it a little bit.
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We just always adopt the federal cola. And then we don't generally have a merit, especially if there's a cola. Like, we just can't handle both.
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So everybody who's continued to see a need to keep up with the inflation.
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Sure.
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All right.
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And then we should have a tentative budget on the next meeting on May 13th for you to look over in a period.
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So that is quite a condensed time period. We don't even have the information to label first.
[33:05]
we have a month and a half to put together that $30,000 budget, so I'll be busy for a few weeks.
[33:14]
But at all, all ten percent of things can stay about the same.
[33:18]
Yeah, everything I've seen.
[33:19]
Even though we have that big scare when the federal government actually said they were taking
[33:23]
back, you know, several hundred thousand dollars, as of a certain date.
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And then the next day they said that they really were going to do it.
[33:31]
That was a bit of a scare.
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I would have impact just quite a bit.
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But as of right now, it looks like the next year will be similar to, can I want to take
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all the money back from these legit organizations, but we give out billions to put all of those.
[33:50]
Prevention is still good, right?
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You still got grants coming in for that, you hope?
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Yes, I know.
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It's been, I think about all, like everyone else, with funding, they have put out for the
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a truck for communities grants.
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In fact, Beaver was affected by this
[34:05]
that it should have been awarded in October.
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But about the time they were awarding it
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because the budget hadn't been approved,
[34:15]
the funds were pulled, and so those applicants
[34:18]
that had submitted weren't even awarded last year,
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which with Beaver was one of those, they just resubmitted,
[34:27]
they called it a re-compete application,
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just for that group of people
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that should have potentially received awards last year
[34:33]
and they just re-sent in their stuffy in January.
[34:39]
So hopefully in the next, usually it takes about six months
[34:41]
to review and hear back and be awarded.
[34:44]
So I'm not sure everything is so just,
[34:47]
we don't know when we're going to hear about all those kinds of things.
[34:50]
And then, the Scolanias applying for their six to ten year
[34:56]
I'm not a drug free community.
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and they put the application out there where you could download it and start working on it,
[35:02]
but it didn't have a date for that it was open and it had a 10 to 10 close date.
[35:09]
So luckily, Heather download of the documents has been working on it,
[35:12]
so I pulled it down for Milford and they've taken it off again.
[35:17]
So I don't know, we're just, I think like everybody else,
[35:20]
we're just not sure what's happening.
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So we're just trying our best in any way we can.
[35:25]
just making sure that our staff have their ducks that are rowed to apply for
[35:31]
things when applications come open. I'd have a call today. Yeah, that's our
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one that we mainly function on from in all of our communities.
[35:41]
So beaver, we're
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hoping we can get that as well. They're 60 to 10 years. So it's the 10-year grant
[35:47]
cycle. So you've five years and you read life for the next five years. And right
[35:50]
before we all started seeing things happen about a year ago with grants. They
[35:55]
did talk about putting on a 11 to 15-year cycle, which we're super excited about
[36:01]
because we've got Washington County and Pingwood specifically that are have
[36:06]
cycled through their 10 years and are just like everyone else looking for more
[36:11]
funds. Some of those grants paid for staff, right? You see, the OPG funds is also
[36:17]
another I know we've seen it. Logan knows more in detail about all of those but there'll be a reduction in thumbs.com.
[36:25]
It will also affect the more staffing.
[36:27]
Where does like everybody else just kind of think about bread and hoping for the best?
[36:33]
That big scare from the federal government, that would have impacted prevention more than any other program.
[36:42]
I know that Logan was like, well, who am I going to have to let go?
[36:47]
I did hear Logan tell Pam, who is my equivalent in St. George to let one of our staff know to
[36:54]
be on alert that they should probably wouldn't have a position come July, with the way things
[36:59]
are going.
[37:00]
So, I guess we'll just kind of, that's the only one that I'm aware of that will potentially
[37:05]
lose at this point. We have a position in pink which there were probably not
[37:09]
going to rehire. I've just taken on those duties for myself and just kind of I
[37:15]
rather try to keep other staff there functioning other places. For now with
[37:21]
what we have and maybe when these change will rehire that pink, which
[37:25]
person, but for now we're just kind of functioning. Trying to keep what we've
[37:30]
built. I feel like we've spent a lot of years building what we have in our
[37:33]
intervention services and trying to keep working well.
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Great job.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Yeah, it was.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Any else on the financial?
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No, that's all.
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Okay.
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Perfect.
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Thank you.
[37:47]
All right.
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Most likely, she had a discharge survey.
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Yeah.
[37:51]
Yeah.
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So this is actually Logan put it together.
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He's, you know, so much better than me.
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And this is his presentation.
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Last night, I pulled it up.
[37:59]
I finally had a minute to look at it.
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But I'm familiar with the charge survey.
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mostly familiar with what is happening in my area specifically this is the
[38:07]
Southwest area so I feel like a lot of the trends that the Southwest area is
[38:11]
seeing is happening in most of the communities so the Sharp survey is a student
[38:17]
health and risk prevention survey so the state's prevention and assessment for
[38:20]
students in 6, 8, 10th and 12th grade. In our smaller communities we generally
[38:27]
trying to survey all the students, so 7th, 9th, and 11th grade as well, when you're just
[38:35]
to get a better sampling of what is happening. When you have a school like Espelani for example
[38:40]
that there's probably about 11 kids per grade and for only sampling those 6th, 8th, 10th,
[38:46]
and 12th grade, it doesn't give you necessarily a good sampling or reports that we want to
[38:52]
share with the public so we generally sample in some of our smaller schools, all grades
[38:57]
possible to have a better understanding of that. So next slide, Mike.
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So the really cool
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thing about this survey is that it's a good chance to see what the students are saying
[39:11]
and what their perspectives are and it doesn't anonymously. So this is actually from one
[39:16]
of the students on a youth coalition. We spend a lot of time with our youth coalition.
[39:21]
It's actually they look over the sharp survey data themselves and come up with an action plan
[39:26]
of how do they want to address some of these issues with their peers in the school.
[39:31]
And so one of the comments is this survey is really cool because it's one of the only
[39:34]
chances we get to tell the adults about what we're going through.
[39:38]
A lot of times they assume what we're going through, but here we actually get to tell them
[39:42]
what it is from our perspective and its anonymous.
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So next slide.
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So here's kind of just an example of that when you ask parents what would be the students
[39:56]
concerned in their school. A lot of the parents will say getting bullied, like
[40:01]
bullying is the biggest issue that's the biggest concern in a lot of the
[40:06]
other areas who maybe that gun violence or active shooter situation is a
[40:12]
huge concern. But what our students are telling us is that their biggest
[40:16]
concerns to them are students dying by suicide or other students in their
[40:20]
school using drugs and alcohol. So this is actually a trend that we've seen for
[40:24]
several years, is those are their top concerns over other things?
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I'm sorry, is this Utah-wide?
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Yes, correct.
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This is the five-county area, yes.
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Our area is correct.
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So, statewide survey, this report is for our five-county area.
[40:41]
Like, excluding Cain County, of course, you've heard over probably time they don't participate
[40:47]
in this.
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So, this is actually, I guess, four-county area.
[40:50]
So with regard to the gang activity, is that an unfounded fear,
[40:58]
kind of like earthquake
[40:59]
and fire?
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Yeah.
[41:00]
I think so.
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I think in some of the areas, we're seeing an increase in crime and things like that.
[41:06]
And so probably, yeah, what area, I mean, like, do we have gang activity, is what I'm
[41:11]
trying to ask, actually, in the five-guy area?
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Not that I'm aware of.
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I'm not familiar with, I would think more in the future.
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I have heard there was a star in Hyrum County some years ago when the sheriff got on top of it, he's just making a plan over here.
[41:40]
I was just curious, like if this was general anxiety about subjects that they're reading about in the news or something, or potentially something they're facing.
[41:48]
These are just things that they are worried about.
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I don't know, and I can find out for you
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and report back next time, or have Logan send that out,
[41:57]
of what the actual questions are that they're asking
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the students to come with these answers.
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I'll call on the lab, does that have the responses?
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Yes, sorry.
[42:07]
On the white is 2023, and the like 0, 15, 30,
[42:12]
but that's the number of responses.
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Right.
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Percentage, yeah.
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Percentage.
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5% of the students have gone out breast and it's gone down.
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Yeah, of a concern.
[42:27]
Yes, what are they concerned or worried about happening in their school?
[42:35]
I think that it's interesting.
[42:39]
I don't know if I saw a little while ago, at least in my social media,
[42:42]
there was a meme going around that said,
[42:44]
For as much as we practice fire safety, I believe that I was going to be involved with the fire situation like catch on fire
[42:51]
All the time as an adult because we practice it so much in a making laugh out loud like when he's so true like we're, you know
[42:59]
Stop drop and roll and people came in all the time and I actually thought about that is like even as an adult like we still remember that
[43:05]
I remember stop drop and roll because we talked about it all the time
[43:08]
But then when we look at some of these things that are more concerning to the students and as you see as we get through like
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We do need to be talking more about these things.
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There needs to be more education like the stop, drop,
[43:20]
and roll that we, that we remember.
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So yes, this is what the kids are concerned about
[43:27]
or about in their areas.
[43:28]
So next slide.
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I think I just kind of already talked about this
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and Logan usually, I think last year,
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or the last time the survey was given two years ago,
[43:38]
came and did a report similar.
[43:39]
And so this is the 2025, which the surveys were given
[43:44]
in the early spring, and the results actually just came out right before Christmas in the fall.
[43:52]
So we're just starting to get a good look at them and compile them and see them.
[43:57]
So the hard thing is it takes almost six months to get those results
[44:01]
and then we're actually getting ready to administer for the next year.
[44:06]
One of the things the state did do is change the way the survey is administered to the fall versus the spring.
[44:13]
There's a lot going on in the spring as schools nearing the end there's a lot of testing those kinds of things are happening
[44:20]
And so they feel like there might be just a better participation or since it runs through the school
[44:24]
Maybe a little less stress on the school if we administer it in the fall
[44:29]
So they'll wait about six weeks for school to get going and then start the process of administering and then we'll get the results in the spring
[44:36]
So it's crazy. We just barely get the results and
[44:39]
because of that change, we are already trying to get districts signing on for the
[44:44]
surveying because with the law that passed a couple years ago we have to have
[44:49]
that participation forms filled out during registration and some schools do
[44:55]
that spring early registration. So we're already working on this with our
[45:02]
Next slide, please. So a lot of people think that we are just surveying substance abuse issues and mental health, but these are a lot of the different things that are surveyed in this, this, uh, the certificate for asking kids to help issues about diet, exercise, seat, belt use. I talked to law enforcement a lot of times about that. Like, let's see what's happening in the area and then you can do your educational campaigns to that. A lot about tanning beds, asthma, diabetes,
[45:29]
So, health things about bullying, cyber bullying, social media screen time, which I'm going
[45:35]
to talk a little bit about that, along with our underage drinking, other substances and
[45:40]
mental health services, which we primarily focus on in our area.
[45:45]
There's questions about parental involvement, career and college readiness and aspirations
[45:50]
gain prevention and violence.
[45:51]
So, there is a lot.
[45:53]
I looked at the bullying and there's a lot of bullying that goes on in schools.
[45:58]
I'd see right here a lot about that I've got grandkids who are just going for me.
[46:03]
But you know what, when I look at a lot of that, it's because of the parents.
[46:08]
Yeah, possibly.
[46:09]
Some of the data that you can get from the parental involvement, there's a measurement
[46:13]
called the parental, we think, of the wording for anti-social behavior, so they're supporting
[46:22]
it.
[46:22]
And so the questions and things that go along with that
[46:25]
is if there's a problem, and instead of maybe the parents
[46:30]
doing something about it, the way it's handled
[46:34]
that the students believe that it might parents support
[46:38]
that that social behavior.
[46:40]
So a lot of that leads into that.
[46:42]
Well, and so there are questions and things about that.
[46:45]
And those are kind of things we try to communicate with our
[46:48]
our parents in our work that we do.
[46:52]
We as parents sometimes get jealous
[46:53]
of how our kid isn't shining as much as the other kids.
[46:57]
So we talk bad about that kid.
[46:59]
And so they tend to bully that one.
[47:03]
I mean, it doesn't make sense.
[47:06]
I thought you were going in a different direction.
[47:08]
I thought you were saying, that's, I'm sure, valid as well.
[47:11]
I thought you were saying a kid's a little shy or whatever.
[47:15]
And then mom and dad are like, well, don't ruin it.
[47:17]
you know, whatever. They make themselves a victim by not using it.
[47:21]
There's probably some of that, too. But I don't want to say too much about Gallaudet
[47:25]
against it. I mean, she's just phenomenal in school. And there's a Gallaudet or a class
[47:32]
that doesn't do as well. But there's always a pinking on this Gallaudet. It does well in
[47:45]
Yeah, the students perceive that nothing is being done about it from the parents or even
[47:51]
at school, then some of those things reporting the survey are that perception of parental
[47:57]
approval of antisocial behavior and things like that.
[48:02]
So that's what I was thinking about.
[48:05]
But anyways, it's a great survey, there's a lot of things involved in it.
[48:10]
usually when the surveys come out and within our coalitions and our communities
[48:14]
like, hey, there's a lot of stuff in here that would pertain to what you're
[48:18]
doing. Sometimes two within schools, they're like, uh, this is just a drug
[48:21]
prevention survey. Why are we doing this survey? But there's so much in there
[48:26]
about like the school's population and what the kids think about the school.
[48:30]
Like, does my teacher, is there, does my teacher spend time with me?
[48:34]
I'm trying to think what else they've got in there, but a lot of things about
[48:38]
school and the school climate and what's happening in the school so I think that's one thing too
[48:45]
that we try to promote is hey this is great serving for a lot of different use not just what we use
[48:50]
for in our drug prevention and mental health issues okay next slide so I kind of already talked
[48:55]
about this is it is we have to have parent permission for that active parent permission and collect
[49:03]
the beginning of the school years there's just an example of the permission slip they're really
[49:07]
detailed to where if a parent wanted information or actually to see the survey, there are the
[49:12]
websites that parents can go to that and see the actual questions on the survey. A lot
[49:18]
of the districts do have control over the questions so that sometimes they can even add questions,
[49:24]
so if your district was interested in adding questions, they really frown upon adding too
[49:29]
many questions and making the survey even longer. Schools have that ability to take on any questions
[49:35]
or any questions that they see relevant for their areas.
[49:39]
You know what would be interesting to see is that the kids that take the survey
[49:43]
if one or one of the parents
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would take the survey and
[49:50]
you know not no one
[49:53]
would either want to sap it and be interested in see how the parents proceed
[49:57]
compared to how the students perceive it.
[50:01]
We have to do that. On our youth team, the way we measure progress is from, it's called
[50:08]
a Y-O-Q, but there's a, if they're over 10, well, somewhere there's an H-K-Doth. If
[50:18]
they're over a certain age, we have them take the child survey, and then parents at any
[50:26]
age does give the parents a way to help us make your change or how these are going
[50:32]
and it's amazing sometimes how the parents and child scores are different and like I
[50:42]
said this is a great concept honestly that doesn't happen really on the sharks
[50:50]
So we put the kids, it's basically.
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No really adult survey being done per se, is there?
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So not with like the sharps per se, but a lot of areas
[50:59]
are doing their own parents' surveys
[51:01]
to find out information similar.
[51:03]
So for example.
[51:04]
I mean, like schools are, or like.
[51:06]
So the call of the coalition is in the area.
[51:08]
So I know like for my area in English,
[51:10]
we looked at the surveys and it said parents are not
[51:13]
communicating with their kids on a regular basis
[51:16]
about no alcohol use.
[51:17]
so we're like, well, why are they not?
[51:19]
So we put out a survey with our parents
[51:21]
and it had different questions
[51:22]
that we wanted to know in relation to the sharp survey.
[51:25]
So if you weren't talking to your kids, why?
[51:27]
And then we listed things that they could choose
[51:29]
or they could give an answer.
[51:31]
And a lot of it was, they should just know better
[51:33]
because of our, you know, our religious culture
[51:36]
that we live in.
[51:37]
A lot of it had, I don't know much about it.
[51:40]
I'm scared if they ask me questions
[51:42]
that I can't answer.
[51:43]
And so it was a way for us to say, oh, okay,
[51:45]
This is why parents aren't talking to their kids now.
[51:48]
I can take this information and help parents give them the information like here's some information
[51:53]
so you can talk to your kids or we need to talk to our kids actually towards the end of
[51:58]
a presentation.
[51:59]
I have a couple of slides about this that the research shows more often we are talking to
[52:03]
our kids the less likely they are to use substances and how important that is so to talk with parents
[52:09]
about that in our parent presentations or parenting classes or things so we do in each individual
[52:14]
area based off of kind of what their needs are and what they're seeing is that
[52:18]
they can do those kinds of surveys for parents. It's not every question on the
[52:23]
survey but it's more formed to what the students are seeing and we want now the
[52:29]
parents perception of those things that the students are reporting. How does
[52:33]
the information get back to the public? From either survey? Or the parent survey?
[52:47]
Well, the information goes to the superintendent, I have to get permission from him to use it
[52:52]
in my community.
[52:54]
And so if any person wants, they could go and request it if the property of the district.
[53:00]
So if you wanted anybody can probably go and request it out of the superintendent's discretion.
[53:04]
like I know that yeah you could go and get the survey report so but I think that
[53:14]
but I mean restrictions on it yeah because they can make the school of bad
[53:22]
is it's they can ask questions out the school yeah there's a lot I mean
[53:26]
there's a lot in there and that could potentially be but I think to
[53:29]
And they're interested to do this school to teach me the access to the kids so I see why you can't do this school.
[53:34]
Right.
[53:34]
I mean, I should just mean...
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Public information.
[53:37]
Public information.
[53:39]
I have never had a problem getting the survey from...
[53:42]
I've never...
[53:42]
But I don't think parents don't have a good...
[53:44]
Right.
[53:44]
Or if they...
[53:45]
Yeah, if they want to hear the questions.
[53:47]
I feel like in our Southwest area our coalitions are really out in the community
[53:52]
and we're giving this information out.
[53:54]
And so I feel like maybe they don't feel like the need is better to go get the information.
[53:59]
But if they wanted to, they could go and request it.
[54:03]
Because we talk about more talk about, more talk about, but how the parents talk about it.
[54:08]
And I'm giving it, there's a talk about it.
[54:10]
Yeah.
[54:10]
Right.
[54:12]
No, I get it.
[54:13]
I think that's where the coalitions come into play is like we are, we see the results.
[54:17]
So we are trying to give the parents what they need through our coal.
[54:21]
Results as we, as we are coalitions do we?
[54:23]
Right, correct.
[54:23]
And every coalition is different based off of what their results are.
[54:27]
So what I'm doing in a language or a school and I might be completely different than we were in Milford
[54:32]
and it is when we look at the survey results, like I'm working with Milford right now, there's
[54:37]
There are survey results is more of a low commitment to school
[54:40]
So what the coalition wants to do is do more things at how it would work with the school on how do we get kids more committed to school that
[54:48]
Enjoying in that school environment where kind of in English in a school any it's more of a family driven and so that focus on the family
[54:56]
So it just depends.
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I wanted to just say to when I mentioned that a lot of these smaller areas, they don't
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have as many soundlings, and so they like to keep the results a little more on the locking
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key for the reason why, say Jerry goes in request that, but he knows the 11th grade class and two
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kids are drinking.
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he'd be like, well, I know who those kids are.
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And so they like to try to keep.
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I know, but just to try to keep that,
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if we're telling the kids it's confidential
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that to keep that, to where we don't want students
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to be able to be identified.
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And I've been familiar with that.
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When my kids went to school, and I'm reading,
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and I'm like, oh, I can tell you who those kids are.
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But I think that's one reason is that it is kind of kids.
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I mean, it's information out there,
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but I think they're just at a discretion
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of who receives that information to try to help keep that confidentiality for the students.
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A parent's have the right to opt in or opt out of the survey, so if they want their
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kids to take it or they don't, so.
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You have a lot of opt out in St. Carpentry County.
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Not usually.
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Sometimes I feel like when I look at the permission slips and I know who opts in and opts out.
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Sometimes I think I think they just didn't understand what they were signing and then there
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are some that I'm like, that makes sense because of the, and that's just
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word from small town, but most we don't really have those that opt out. In fact,
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in one of my other sites, there's only 2% in our area that ended up. Well, not
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opt out, I'm sorry, that the surveys were thrown out because of the validity, so
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we have validity checks throughout the survey. That is something that they say, well,
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how do you know the kids are being honest? And so they'll ask a question multiple
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multiple times maybe in the different format to see if kids are saying the same thing, or
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if they say, yeah, I use this fake substance they'll throw them out.
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So if they, or if they're using in a, in a measurement that would, you know, kill somebody
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and they're like, oh, yeah, I drink this many times or I use this substance then they throw
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those out because they know the students aren't being honest and so those ones aren't even
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any of the data from those surveys are checked.
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Next slide.
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So total of 78,000 surveys were completed
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in statewide in 2025, and like I mentioned,
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only 2% statewide of the surveys were thrown out
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for those validity checks.
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So the students, primarily, are being
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honest in what they're reporting.
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That a great jump in two years.
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And that percentage of students changed,
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like in other words this is percentage by comfortable or are there just more
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students for the percentage yeah I'm just wondering if it if the numbers went up so
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much because there's more students or if the percentages I don't know the
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answer to that if you'd like me to find that out I can find out why the jump in
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that number of surveys.
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Yeah.
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And there's a lot of different factors.
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Like I said, sometimes we measure more students
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in a particular area, not always.
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But sometimes if there's that capacity or the funds,
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because it does cost extra to survey those additional grades.
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And so a lot of times with some of these grant funds will say,
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we've got some grant funds.
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Let's survey all grades for the next couple of years.
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and so there is a lot of different factors to that.
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I was just looking at the demographics for our county
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and we have fewer, very young children,
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but then there's still crops moving through, right?
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And I think just that general fluctuation.
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I know that a lot of, it goes back and forth
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between the six grades, so this could potentially be
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a measurement as well as more six graders.
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they shortened the survey for six graders so that it wasn't so long and so maybe more six
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graders are taking and completing the test versus last year. So I think there's just a lot
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of factors but if you want that information it's okay.
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Okay,
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next slide.
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So this actually shows how many students in our area took that. So again,
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Washington, Iron Beaver and Garfield counties, 6, 8, 10th and 12th took that in 2025 and we had
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just over 5,000 students who took the survey in 2025
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in our five county area.
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Next slide.
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So just kind of some data points really quickly.
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And if we were to show back in 2017,
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we'd actually see increases in a lot of these substances,
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but since 2019, we're actually seeing decreases.
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And some of them are pretty significant drops,
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like you can see in e-cigarettes and even marijuana.
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We do see a slight increase within.
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Silence. That's things like paint and glue and some of those things like gasoline. But it's such a low number and a very, a such a low number to begin with. It's not something we're super concerned about. But definitely something we watch. E cigarettes, we're seeing inflation.
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Can't afford to make one. Yeah, true, true. Go to the other. It also made me wonder too, like thinking back to
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and you'd have to really do a deep dive is maybe it's the increase in
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inhalants because we have more six graders taking the survey now and there's
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more access I mean they're more of that like let's go out and sniff some
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gasoline or glue that seems to be something more like a six-creator would do
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horses and older kids so anyway that's just something any barker right to consider
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paint that are culturally like people used to sniff back. I guess it did your higher
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than a kite. Don't remember. You're gone. We used to see back in the, quite a few years
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ago, the dust off stuff that people know. We actually had some quite high inhalant use.
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And that was one of the big ones, because that was kind of just this big trend. And we,
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Yeah, but that's generally something even though there is a slight increase in numbers
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itself are quite low, and even that slight increase is not a huge concern for us.
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We're more concerned about the top three substance uses you can see there.
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And it is great to see a big significant drop in e-cigarettes.
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We're seeing that in a lot of our communities.
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And I think that, you know, the alcohol are the tobacco companies.
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They're continuing to find ways to make money, right?
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So we know that smoking is dangerous.
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We would not usually see any youth or any younger people smoking regular cigarettes, traditional cigarettes,
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and same thing with...
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We're not laughing at you.
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There's like some funny noises happening.
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And then we saw the e-cigarettes kind of come on board as this healthier alternative.
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And now we're starting to see just like we did with cigarettes that there are these
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risks associated and so more and more kids are thinking, oh, this isn't just the harmless
[1:02:24]
water vapor that we thought it was, they're seeing the risks a lot of the work we're doing
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in our community coalitions with our youth groups we're seeing that drop.
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However, we are seeing a new trend come off, so the next slide, please, is the zin.
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So even those zins have been around for a while.
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I feel like it's kind of ramping up as this new trend with youth.
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We're just starting to survey that in the survey, is it you?
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So it is pure nicotine in these pouches.
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And so one of the reasons that it is now being this advertised as this basically almost completely harmless
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It's better than inhaling the smoke with a water vapor that it's just pure nicotine
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There's no tobacco because there's kind of this with tobacco that is unhealthy and so it's pure nicotine and
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They just put it in their gum. You don't have to spit anything either. You just swallow it. So with teens, it's
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So it's more, it's easier to hide and so it's kind of this new trend, next slide please.
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We are starting to see some increases.
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They still are fairly low, but it is one of those things that we're watching and trying
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to get ahead of the game.
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So I know with my youth coalition that I work with, where our kids in my youth coalition
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still say they know more kids that are using bathing devices than nicotine pouches, but
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we're trying to get a heavy game and do that prevention work. So we've been doing some research
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and having them put together things about like what would you tell your your fellow students
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about nicotine pouches and that are dangerous trying to create that for so much. Does that cause
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cancer the way to? Not true. Not true. It does. It enters your bloodstream. There's the you know there
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is similar problems so you would see with chew in your mouth and causing cancer and nicotine itself
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is just highly indicted. But they're interpreting it as healthier because you're not ingesting things
[1:04:24]
into your lungs. There's not the tobacco, which the tobacco has kind of that bad name. It's just
[1:04:30]
a pure nicotine. So there's a lot, and I don't want to, I don't want to spend a lot of your time,
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but maybe another time, or go to some of your community coalitions and kind of hear about what's going
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on with that but the amount of nicotine in those pouches and it varies and the amount
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of nicotine pouches the students are using a day because they just take it out, put one
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right back in and that's kind of the common thing is one right after another right after
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another is the amount of nicotine that the students could potentially get throughout the
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day is equal to like 40 cigarettes or something, it's just a lot and so it's something we
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definitely need to be aware of. So you can just see how you can see the increases since
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we started tracking it in 2021. And you can also see right here on the right that the
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first use of tobacco that students are now reporting that these in or nicotine pouches
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are their first nicotine product versus e-cigarettes, traditional cigarettes, and chew that they're
[1:05:30]
trying.
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I chewed as a youth in all of 20 minutes, from the first time I played in a little bit of tobacco till I was wiped out, was about 20 minutes so I was wide and done.
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Alright, on to dyco.
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It wasn't that cool.
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Well, I think they're changing all of that to accommodate like the smells or the taste and all of that and to make it more healing and promoted that way.
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so next slide. So I mentioned earlier that they're doing more surveying about screen time
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in teenagers so this just shows over the years and you see the whites 21, grades 23 and the blue
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is in 2025. The grades across the bottom six through 12th and a combination of all grades that
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youth are reporting more than two hours per school day on screen so after school time. So not
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during school, about 70% of sixth graders report
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that they're gaming or social media or YouTube-ing,
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and 90% of 12th graders are reporting, spending that time,
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which is concerning to us,
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and I'll talk a little bit about that.
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There's some correlations to mental health
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and substance use and screen time.
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It
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was all move on to the next slide.
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Well, I think about what I was gonna say on that.
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So screen time and alcohol.
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So here we have, there is some direct links to students who are reporting that long-term,
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that two hours in screen time and their alcohol use in the past 30 days.
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So just kind of for some clarification too on, we measure both lifetime use,
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means that somebody is trying at least one time and we measure 30 day use,
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which is if somebody is using in the past 30 days typically they're using on a more regular basis.
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And so, we like to really look at the 30-day use is more of the concern for us.
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So, students who use alcohol in the past 30 days and are spending more screen time is
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concerning, we're seeing increases in that.
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Do you think that's just because the kids are on their phones all the time or the ones that
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don't have parents right there.
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I mean, put down your phone.
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Put down your phone.
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And so, they're also drinking.
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I'm not 100% sure on that.
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I mean, again, I can look that up.
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I don't know the questions.
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I didn't put this slide show together,
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so I don't really answer to some of these questions.
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I'm giving it for somebody else.
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So when you're like, why are you presenting this,
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and you don't really answer, this is not my slide show.
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So a lot of it has to do with some of the other survey data
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collected, too, is that connection with other people
[1:08:16]
and getting out and so feeling probably that depressed,
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not have connections with old parents, students, probably some of the content that they're viewing
[1:08:26]
to and feeling like the norm is that everybody is using versus like what the norm is in my
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own community is and most kids are not using. So there could be a lot that goes into that too.
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So next slide, we're seeing the same trend too with faith being here. So again, just the correlation
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or the directly between those that are using substances and spending more time on their
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screens.
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One of the next slide and same thing with marijuana.
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I'm really curious to see with the schools now implementing that no phones, how this
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changes for next year or some of these kids who maybe were on their phones during school
[1:09:09]
that are also spending that two hours outside of school, two hours plus, but now they can't
[1:09:14]
during school? Is that going to increase even more time after school? So I'm kind of curious
[1:09:18]
in the next survey to see how that change with that changes. Well, that did pass that now
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statewide. There's no bell to bell. Yeah, I think that and a lot of schools have done that on
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their own. You definitely do that now. You have to turn your phone in or while they haven't
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teachers take away and get locked up. I know. It's not going to show each school, but I know that
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but in Garfield County, when I go over to Bryce Valley,
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they actually have signs of the same no phone zone.
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So I think in some areas, the kids could use them
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like on lunch breaks, but then in classrooms,
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either they turn them in in little pouches
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or have different ways of collecting them.
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But I do believe, and I know they were trying to pass
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statewide no phones in school at all.
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So I haven't really followed up any of them, so.
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But again, we're seeing the same correlation
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between all three of these substances that we primarily track.
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So next slide please.
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So good news is that with depressive symptoms, so moderate depressive symptoms, even though
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it's over 50% of students are reporting depressive symptoms, it is down from 69% in 2023.
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three. So that's some good news on that.
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Next slide. Students that felt sad or hopeless
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in the last two weeks in a row were also seeing a decrease in that. So that's also some
[1:10:46]
good news there. But in the past we've actually seen a lot of increases in these mental health
[1:10:53]
issues at lowliness or depressive so that's that's good news as well. Next slide. So marijuana
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and mental health so the dark blue bar shows the percentage of kids who say that sometimes they
[1:11:08]
are no good or I'm a failure I don't think my life's worth anything and this dark blue is students
[1:11:15]
who have not used marijuana in the last 30 days so you can see kids reporting that is quite
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significant, but then when you go to the next, we can see that the increase in youth
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that are reporting using Mary Wanda in the last 30 days and how they feel. So quite a
[1:11:34]
significant increase when you look at substance use specifically with Mary Wanda and mental
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health, how much more they feel, feel that I'm no good, I'm a failure, and that mental health
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place into that next slide. And again, just more information. Students who are
[1:11:53]
using marijuana also feel more depressed, sad in the past year, filled
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hopelessness in the last two weeks, and are a bigger increase in those that are
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seriously considering suicide. Okay, next slide. I'm not going to show this. This is
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just a little short video that was released a couple weeks ago just about
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depression, anxiety and marijuana use so we'll just go ahead and skip that because I know I probably have taken more time already
[1:12:22]
even anticipated. And one of the last things that we kind of were already talking about was in the survey where my parents communicate their
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expectation of no drug use with me in the last or at least twice a year that we actually have 70% of kids are saying no my parents haven't
[1:12:45]
working on, that is concerning because like I mentioned and the next line shows from
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this research study from Dr. Jessica, that the research is really clear, parents who
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have a consistent message of total accidents until it's legal, the child is going to less
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likely have substance use disorder over time in their lives.
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So that is something that we're working on on our coalitions in each individual area like
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overall it's showing that 77% in our counties but I know some of each of the individual
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coalitions are seeing some decreases in that that maybe are primarily putting a lot of focus so
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that's one of our focuses is getting our parents to talk to our kids we're doing parenting classes
[1:13:27]
and parent nights and things like that in our communities so try to get that message across but
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and again like the parent surveys that I mentioned just kind of addressing why parents are talking
[1:13:38]
to their kids in each individual areas where we're working on that as well, so that's all
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I have on that report, so thank you.
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Let me know if you have any questions that if anything that comes up, let me know and
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we can get that information to you, if I can do a deeper dive into some of the survey.
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And this is just a quick, just a quick run through if you want to, a lot of your local
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coalitions do a data presentation once the data comes out, so I know Beaver will probably
[1:14:11]
be doing one.
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I know we're planning one for Garfield County specifically, and Iron County in Washington
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also have presentations coming up in the next month or so where you can be a part of that
[1:14:20]
and just hear for a good hour or so to sit deep or dive in your area specifically, what is
[1:14:27]
happening in your area, and so what are the coalitions and community folks doing to address
[1:14:31]
those?
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So look for those opportunities.
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Thank you, it's super helpful.
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I appreciate your time.
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Yeah, thanks for having me.
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I wish we could get the information to better
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the parents' sounds like it's not
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talking to you because it's a much better thing to do.
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I was like, quite bad for there.
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OK.
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My back to you, can you be any of your helpers?
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Open a discussion.
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Open a discussion.
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This is where you have any questions from us.
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Any discussion items you would like?
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There was, I would like to request a close meeting for a possible litigation piece to kind of bring commission to the streets. Chair, I move that we go into executive closed session for the purpose of, um, imminent or reasonably, wait, ending or reasonably imminent litigation. Nice.
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Yes.
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Is it a good?
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I motion a second.
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All in favor?
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Roll call, probably.
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Hi.
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To Mr. Taylor.
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Hi.
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Mr. Sean's here.
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We're now in a closed session.
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A closed session.
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Let's make sure it's separate.
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Yeah.