Agenda
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A. Call to Order
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B. Comments by the Co-Chairs
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C. Review of Occupational Authorization Entities:
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1. Arkansas State Plant Board Feed and Fertilizer Division [Exhibit C1]
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2. Arkansas Department of Health (ADH) Engineering Section [Exhibit C2]
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3. Arkansas Professional Bail Bondsman Licensing Board [Exhibit C3]
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D. Other Business
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E. Adjournment
Transcript
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it was signed on September
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17th the 1787 helping to
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establish us as currently the
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oldest and
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sometimes miraculously the most
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stable government currently in
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existence so just wanted to
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acknowledge that us today.
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thank you sir
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with that we'll get started and
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we'll start with the state plant
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board
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Good afternoon if you all would
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identify yourselves
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yes sir corery seats Arkansas
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Department of Agriculture, state
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plant board
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Mike Stoneage Arkansasike
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Sthoge Arkansas department of
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agriculture thank you sir
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Matthew Ford department of
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agriculture OK and you all may
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proceed
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thank you sir.
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we are here today for three
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occupational licenses actually
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it's two there is there are
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three on the
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agenda but the third lime vendor
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was repealed
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by
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Act557 of2021 so that that
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license is actually not in
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effect now
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the remaining two are
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agricultural consultant licenses
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and grain dealer licenses
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with regards to a consultants
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this license was created by
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Arkansas code annotated 1713101
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atc in 1987.
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the legislature
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in that act recognized that the
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agricultural community should
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have a choice in seeking the
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advice of whomever they choose
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regarding control of pests,
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plant pathogens, weeds or the
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use of fertilizer, lime or
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micronutrients but also
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recognized the
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that
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the benefit of having a
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mechanism whereby persons
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licensed by the state plant
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board as agricultural
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consultants may thereby hold
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themselves out as a licensed
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agricultural consultant
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and it's that license that we
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are the first one that we're
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here for today. currently
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there are 10re0 well for 2026
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there were 184 licensees
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and
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by having the required
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educational or experience
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background along with a
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period of continuing education
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required every two years they
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may maintain themselves out as
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an agricultural consultant and
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charge a fee for their service.
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Members are there any questions
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' ll ask
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my cochair thank you Mr
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Chair.
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so I I pretty much asked this
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question of everyone who
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presents before us what is
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the current state of the
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career do we have enough people
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performing these duties? do we
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need to have more or less and if
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so are y'all doing anything to
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promote more folks to take up
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this occupation
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I would say our current status
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is is adequate we generally
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don't
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vary too far from the number we
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have right now and I've been
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not made aware of any need
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for an an increased number of
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people out there as an ad
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consultant. awesome thank you.
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members are there any other
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questions
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Seeing none without objections,
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this report stands as reviewed
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the second license is for
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grain dealers. this license
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was created by the Arkansas
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Grain Dealers Act
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from 2015 codified Arkansas
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code annotated 2 24-da101 at
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sec. It requires grain dealers
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to obtain a license from the
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plant board before entering into
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contracts for the purchase of
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grain. These licenses are are
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issued to business entities and
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are
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issued to dealers in grain which
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are defined by statute as corn
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wheat, oats, barley, rye, rice,
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solo, soybeans and oil seed.
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Members any questions
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Senator Johnson, ir, you are
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recognized thank you Mr Chairman
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gentlemen thank you for this
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I I was curious
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when we have these these special
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revenues in this particular
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license is is $800 a year
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where does what is done with
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that revenue I know it's special
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revenue for something but what
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all is what all is done with
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well with regards to this
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license it goes directly toward
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the costs of maintaining the
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people within the department of
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agriculture that monitor the
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program conduct the audits
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receive the reports that sort of
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thing. So this is to get help
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gain data that the department
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uses for a myriad of of
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purposes. The license itself sir
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no the fee oh yes sir
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ok so it's not just to to I mean
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I I I see these these regulatory
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things I wanna make sure it's
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just not a circle we collect
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money to to to regulate you but
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main thing we do is collect the
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money and but this covers other
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grain related and and commodity
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related things that your
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department the department of
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agriculture does I would say
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specifically it goes directly
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toward these grain dealers
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there there's a very long story
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about how this
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licensing procedure and this act
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came about but it is to ensure
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that grain dealers don't receive
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grain from farmers there is
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generally a period of time
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between when the dealer receives
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the grain and when the farmers
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are paid for the grain and there
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have been situations both in
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Arkansas and other states where
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some between
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those two events the dealer goes
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under and the farmer is left
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without
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being paid for the grain that he
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sent to a lot of small
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businesses deal with that
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problem at one level or another
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so thank you for that I I just
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wanted to make sure because I'm
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I'm sensitive to the fact that
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everything we do regulatory wise
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has a a real purpose and not
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just to to you know to
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perpetuate the system so to
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speak right thank you thank you
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Mr chairman
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members are there any other
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questions
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see none
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Without objection this report
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stands as reviewed
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and gentlemen thank you all for
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being here today. thank you sir
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Next we have the Department of
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Health Engineering section
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and if you would please
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introduce yourselves
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good afternoon members thank you
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for allowing us to be here at
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Charles Thompson attorney
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Arkansas department of Health.
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re s a Lee engineer Department
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of Health
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Craig Smith attorney for
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Arkansas department of
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healthalth.
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thank you and you all may
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proceed
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thank you Mr Chair. we are
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presenting two licenses under
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this report water distribution
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operators and water treatment
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operators distribution operators
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are water system operators
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that deal with water
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distribution systems and
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facilities treatment
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operators obviously for
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treatment facilities water
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system operators are necessary
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to ensure the safety quality and
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quantity of water that are
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dispersed in in public water
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systems these licenses are
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required under
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the federal safefe Drinking
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Water Act and so with that
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open to any questions
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my coachchair
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yeah good afternoon thank you
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for being here so just kind
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of like I did with the previous,
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where are we at with having
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enough individuals to perform
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these duties across the state
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obviouslybviously waters of
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major issue that we're all are
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concerned about. I know in some
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of the rural areas that I
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represent, they've been having
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trouble getting, you know, folks
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to that have these
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qualifications to come work
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within their water systems so
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where are we at with this
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occupation and are we doing
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anything to try to promote
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you know more of this in the in
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the state if there is a need
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sir you're correct we do have
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problems in the rural areas and
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there is also a large number of
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water operators that are
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retiring right now we have
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programs at some of the
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community colleges and com
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central Arkansas waterter has an
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internship program
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and of course our training
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academy SAU
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tries to promote it. OK so so
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we do have a pipeline where
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we're trying to mentor the next
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generation it sounds like. All
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right, thank
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Representative Beck, ir you are
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recognized
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thank you, Mister Chair. and
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and this may be a question that
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we can talk about that offline I
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guess but
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the
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the operators just not so much
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about the operator themselves
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but how does are are are the
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systems actually I'm assuming
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they're the ones responsible for
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the quality of the water
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are the is there a routine
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checking of the water systems to
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make sure they are delivering
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and yes sir we routinely sample
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the systems and we inspect them
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every 2 to3 years and the
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funding for that is part of that
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part of this fee off of this
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license
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or not
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part of it is through the 40
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cents a month fee that everyone
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pays on their water bill and
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then we also get federal money
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just one quick question go ahead
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sir and the frequency of that
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roughly would be I'm not sure
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it's not set in stone but like
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you were you would check a
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system
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twice a year
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we just we physically inspect
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the systems every 2 to3 years
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depending on the size but we're
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also available all the time to
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make technical assistance visits
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if they need it or if we know of
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a concern
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all right thank you
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members are there any other
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questions
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seeing none without objection
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this report stands as reviewed.
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thank you all for being here
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today
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Next we have the
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Arkansasfessional Bill
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Bondsman's license Bo.
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You are who we call when we get
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in trouble, right?
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if you will please identify
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yourself
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Lay Kirchner counsel for the
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department of laborbor and
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licensing.
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Paulurnett, director of the
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Arkansas Professional licensing
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bail bonds board. thank you and
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you all may proceed. Thank you
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Mr Chairman. we submitted this
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report with the clarification
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between the business fees and
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the transfer agent fees and
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with that we're happy to answer
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any questions
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members are there any questions
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my coachchair
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so just like the previous
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for this occupation do we
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have enough folks that are
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licensed bail bondsmen I
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guess would be the appropriate
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term and do we need more or
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less? how how is this occupation
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faring in the state right now?
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Yes Mr Cochair, we are actually
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good and we're on average we're
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averaging about 2 to3 new
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agents a week a month a month
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OK I was gonna say that's a lot
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of new agents if we're doing
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that I'm sorry a a month but yes
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I
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think we're good and then if
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he's collected looks like you're
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collecting about a little over
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half a million dollars every
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year and annual expenses roughly
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100,000 less than that is that
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basically going to employees
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or what what what do we spend on
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the400,000 dollars on it
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actually goes to yes it goes
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toar goes to our our
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operations but the other part
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goes to the domestic abuse
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and domestic peace funds for the
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child abuse rape, domestic
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violenceence commission so
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that's where the rest of the
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funds go sir. OK so you use just
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what you need and then the rest
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gets transferred over there sir
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right
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right thank you
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Representative Gonzalez
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you recognize her
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how much are y'all transferring
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over to the domestic peacece
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fund
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it roughly
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estimates too and our finance
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department does it so roughly
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estimates about75% of what we
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take in through the fees and
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finds we can only keep enough to
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keep the board to keep our
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personnel and maintenance and
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operations up and running.th
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everything else gets transferred
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over so
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sorry I will get back with you
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with that number exactly that
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one I don't have in front of me
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but that's good enough do you
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know if that is that 100% of
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their funding or do you know
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what do not know on that one
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thank you you're welcome
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Members, are there any other
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questions
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Without objection this report
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stands as reviewed and thank you
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all for being here today
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Members we don't know yet but
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we we think there will not be a
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a meeting inoctober but we'll
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find out after I think ALc
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tomorrow
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so with that thank you all for
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being here and we are adjourned