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work and play in stere and we strive to
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uphold the spirit of respect and unity
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in our community. I'd like to call to
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order the committee of the full meeting
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for Thursday, July 23rd, 7:01.
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Uh we have two regrets for this evening
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from Mayor Glasser and Deputy Mayor
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Loots. Any approval or changes to the
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agenda as presented?
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» I'll uh approve the agenda for our
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committee the whole session for
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Thursday, July the 23rd as presented.
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Second.
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» Well, I guess you do. [laughter]
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» All those in favor?
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» I carry. Any disclosure of interest on
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the agenda items for this evening?
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the minutes from the committee of the
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whole from June 25th. Any changes?
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It is presented. There is no
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announcements or presentation this
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evening. No written petition. Oh, sorry.
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There is one written petition uh
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correspondence from Maggie's place.
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Yes.
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Any citizen comments?
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» You guys, please.
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» Uh, all right. My name is Lan Mumbold,
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uh, resident St. Andrews. Um, good
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evening, uh, mayor and absentee, uh, and
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council members. Um, I'm speaking
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tonight uh because I am deeply concerned
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by the decision to prohibit Audrey
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Armsworthy from attending town hall and
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public council meetings. Public council
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meetings exist so that residents can
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observe their elected representatives
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and stay informed and participate in
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local democracy. Excluding a resident
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from those meetings is an extraordinary
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step that should only occur when there
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is clear evidence of an individual
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presenting a genuine risk to the safety
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of others or is actually disrupting the
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proceedings of a meeting. The noticed
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issue to Miss Armsworthy refers to
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bitterallic and threatening posts on
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social media. Many residents have read
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Audrey's posts. They know, yes, that she
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is outspoken, direct, and often highly
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critical of council and town staff. She
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regularly shares information about
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bylaws, land use matters, and council
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decisions. And she challenges statements
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that she believes are inaccurate. Some
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people may disagree with her opinions or
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dislike her style of communication, but
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that is part of living in a democracy.
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Communication.
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Criticism is not the same as a threat.
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If a resident can be barred from public
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meetings because they are persistent,
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wellinformed, or outspoken in their
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criticism of elected officials, then
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every resident should be concerned,
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myself included.
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The issue before us is larger than one
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individual. It is about whether
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residents can question their government
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without fear of being excluded from the
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democratic process. Public institutions
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must be able to distinguish between
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speech that is uncomfortable and speech
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that is genuinely threatening. Those are
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not the same thing and they shouldn't be
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treated as though they are. Many
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residents rely on Audrey to explain
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municipal bylaws, summarize council
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decisions, and encourage public
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engagement.
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Whether or not one agrees with the
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opinion that she expresses is beside the
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point. The appropriate response to
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criticism is more transparency,
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transparency, more communication, and
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more accountability, not restricting a
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resident's access to public meetings. I
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respectfully ask council to reconsider
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that decision to ensure that any
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restrictions on residents participation,
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sorry, are based on objective evidence
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and due process and to reaffirm that
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robust criticism
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or or sorry, of elected officials and
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municipal administration is not grounds
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for exclusion from public life. A
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healthy democracy welcomes scrutiny. It
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does not silence it. Thank you.
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» Thank you.
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» Any other citizen comments?
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We'll move into 10A which is uh business
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the CIO report. Can I hand it over?
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» Okay. Thank you chair. Um just an update
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on the uh water work uh the water tank
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maintenance project was completed. Uh we
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have been working uh towards the roof
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replacement that we let uh council bill
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out in June. Uh we are ahead of schedule
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on that project. So we will be moving
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the project up from the end of a August
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uh or we had said end of August
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beginning of September. We will be
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starting that project on July the 27th.
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Uh we'll be having more information
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coming to the public uh in the next week
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or so. Um this evening uh council will
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in the council meeting discuss the uh
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water treatment plant design project. Uh
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if finalized uh by resolution this
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evening, we will move forward to uh
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awarding the design portion of the water
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treatment plant tomorrow. Uh and we'll
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start the uh kickoff meeting with the
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contractor and start moving forward with
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the uh planning of our new water
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treatment plant and our new water
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source. Um moving on to the high tide,
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low tide uh pump station replacement. Uh
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that project uh commenced on time and
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we're finished ahead of schedule. Uh we
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commissioned the new pump station on uh
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Tuesday of this week and uh it's
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completed and uh we're moving uh moving
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forward with closing out that project.
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Um as we reported the diesel generator
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project uh was completed as well. The
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maintenance uh was taken care of by
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Aaron uh and the public works team. Uh
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that is complete and uh everything seems
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to be operational and uh proceeding uh
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working as usual. Um
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Kitchener Street lift station. Uh we
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report to council there are two pumps
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that need to be replaced on Kitchener
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Street. Uh we are working through uh
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some valving issues. Uh and we will
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determine in the next week or so whether
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or not we need to take the two pumps uh
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and uh Kitchener Street offline to
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replace those two pumps. if we need to
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offline, uh we will put a notice out to
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the public and we will do that work
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between the hours of 1:00 a.m. and 6:00
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a.m. to have as minimal impact on the
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community as possible. Uh so more
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information is uh forthcoming and water
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updates. Uh just an update for council
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that the water levels in the St. Andrews
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River have been low. Uh they did rise
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with the rains that we've had over the
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last couple of days. uh but the levels
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have been uh decreasing rapidly and
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we're expecting them to start decreasing
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uh as of tomorrow. Uh we have been below
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the ecological maintenance flow levels
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and the water uh intake in front of a
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gallery has been extremely low. So we
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have implemented our emergency action
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plan and we have applied to the
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department of fisheries and oceans and
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the province of Nova Scotia to dam the
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river in front of the gallery if needed.
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Uh we will have that in place and we
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will proceed to dam if required. uh and
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we will not notify the
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uh council and the public if that is uh
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required. We will continue to be on
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voluntary uh water conservation uh in
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the meantime. Um and um we'll update the
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public if we need to go to mandatory. We
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did last year have to go to mandatory. I
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believe it was the second week of August
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with the hot uh temperatures. We haven't
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reached those temperatures this year,
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but again the St. Andrew uh River has
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been extremely low. Um RCMP, we have uh
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notified them that speeding continues to
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be an issue in town along St. Anders and
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Kitchener specifically and they will be
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doing some additional radar traps uh in
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the area. So happy to answer any
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questions that council may have.
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» Any questions? Councor
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potholes.
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» Yeah. So update on potholes. Uh we have
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uh got word from public work staff
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they'll be moving to St. Anger Street
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next week. Uh and that should be done by
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the end of next week.
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» Next week.
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Barring any bad weather, I guess that'll
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be our next
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questions.
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» Um,
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the paving project for Kitchener Street.
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Um, there were a lot of comments when
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Riverside was paved. The people living
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on the street didn't exactly know the
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dimensions of the piece of work. Um, are
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we going to engage people on Kitchener
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Street that it's being paved to hear
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what they have to say? What are the
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implications so they don't have kind of
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that riverside discussion?
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» Yes. Uh, so good question. We will
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engage the public next year. So, uh, at
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the last meeting we discussed uh that
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the Kitchener Street project portion
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when we moved to next year, we're going
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to do a much larger piece. Uh, we will
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engage the residents on that. uh and the
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uh ask with if uh council resolves this
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evening will be awarded and we'll put
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that portion on the uh on the schedule
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for probably the next month or so.
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» Moving on to 10B which is an alternative
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development officer appointment.
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» I will briefly speak to that. Uh Jacob
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McFersoning our planner is here tonight.
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Uh Jason uh Fox is our uh development
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officer for the town. Uh in Jason's
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absence when he is either on conference
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or on vacation, uh it's a good idea to
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have a resolution in place to uh name a
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alternate development officer. Uh our
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request uh to council to consider uh
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naming Jacob the alternative uh
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development officer in Jason Fox's
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absence. So we would need a motion to do
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that if council like to do so. I'll make
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that motion that uh council recommend
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Jacob McFersonen as our alternate
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development officer. Okay. Councelor
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Osw.
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» All those in favor?
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» Motion carried.
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Nothing from town committee updates. Uh
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so we can move on to council updates.
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Councelor Rosmore.
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Um
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actually mine will be in the council.
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» No,
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» Nothing for me. No in camera this
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evening. So this portion of the uh
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council session is adjourned at 7:12.
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Take a fivem minute recess and move into
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the council.
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» You do have the option of taking a fivem
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minute recess
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or if you wish to proceed as council you
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can.
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» Do we need a recess? I have no
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[laughter]
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» I don't.
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» So we'll move right into the council
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meeting for Thursday July 23rd and we'll
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call that through order at 712.
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Again in attendance we have regrets from
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Mayor Glasser and Deputy Mayor Loots.
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Any approval or changes to the agenda as
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presented?
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» I'll make the motion to accept the
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agenda for our council meeting for
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Thursday, July the 23rd as presented.
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Moved by councelor Osborne.
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» Second by councelor.
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» Perfect. All those in favor?
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» Gary. Any disclosure of interest on
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agenda items?
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No.
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June 25th.
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uh and sorry June 25th and July 7th
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council meeting minutes any changes
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presenter
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no announcements no presentations no
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written petitions or correspondents so
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we need to citizen comments again have
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anything new
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business uh 10A which is the fireh hall
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land designation
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I'll uh I'll make that motion that uh
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council approve the land that was
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illustrated within the report that chose
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11 Nova Scotia Highway number two,
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Stewie be designated as future home of
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the new Stuak fireh hall for the Stuak
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and District area volunteer fire
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department. And further that council
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approve that the StuAK district
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volunteer and area fire department be
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authorized to fund raise for the
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planning and construction of the new
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fire hall and further that council
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approve that town staff support the stew
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and district volunteer fire department
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as necessary.
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Moved
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» By councelor Osborne.
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» Second by councelor. All those in favor
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motion carried.
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10B. Uh, it's AB tender.
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» Um, just to follow up on councelor
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Leblanc's point on that, I think, um, if
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I may, um,
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when we did Riverside, we did curbs and
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sidewalks. So, we actually expanded the
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road. So, I think, um, if I am
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understanding correctly, we're not doing
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that with this portion. We're just
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repaving the current section, correct?
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» Yes.
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The plan for the capital project or
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capital budget next year is for paving
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only. We can expand that and have the
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conversations with council uh for the
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capital budget next year um to add
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sidewalks and curves if council wishes.
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» I'm talking about the 27,000 that we're
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looking to approve right now.
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» Correct. So that portion is only for and
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that is not in in relation to any
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portion of kitchen. So it's just the
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entrance on assets. Correct.
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» That's correct. Kitchener is being moved
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to next year uh to encompass a much
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larger portion.
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» Okay.
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So, with that, I'll make the motion that
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council um approve the the 2026 paving
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report
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um awarding the tender
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under the 2627 capital budget that we
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award the paving tenders basin
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contracting limited in the amount of
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27,000 plus HST and that we approve that
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the CAO be authorized to execute the
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necessary contract
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» By councelor
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blah. All those in favor.
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» Uh finally in business is C the water
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plant design and construction RFP.
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I'll make that motion that council
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approve
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the request for proposal for engineering
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design services and project management
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um for the water treatment plant and
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that report be received and that we
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approve the request for proposal
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STW-2026-02
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engineering design services and project
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management of Stuia water treatment
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plant design be awarded to the Dylan
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Consulting Limited in the amount of
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$1,45,220
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plus HST and further that council
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approve that the mayor and CAO be
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authorized to execute the contract on
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behalf of the town
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» Second moved by counselor Osborne second
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by counselor Lmark those in favor
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carried
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» 11 town committees uh planning advisory
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committee regarding R4 as assembly
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amendment first reading.
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[laughter]
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» You want me to keep going?
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» We we can keep going. U I just want to
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acknowledge the fact that Jacob
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McFersonson, our planner, was not here
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at the June meeting. Uh so should
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council have any additional questions
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regarding the amendment, we'd be happy
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to answer them. Otherwise, the process
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going forward is tonight will be the
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first reading. uh at which time we also
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set a public meeting which I'd recommend
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be before the next council meeting on
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September I believe it's the 22nd um and
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then the second reading would be the
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evening of the September 22nd uh and
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advertising um on either side first
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reading meeting tonight advertising
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would happen tomorrow and advertising
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would happen after the second reading in
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September
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» 24th
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So I will make that recommendation or
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sorry that
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that approval
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that we approve
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the first reading for the land use bylaw
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amendment
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and that council approve the outdoor
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event permit bylaw within that as per
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section two um schedule two. So,
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schedule one and schedule two. And then
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further that we set a public hearing
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for
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7:00 or 6:30
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maybe 6:30 on September the 24th.
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Moved by Councelor Ross.
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» Yes. Oh, second.
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» Second by Counc. All those in favor?
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Motion carried.
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Uh part B, bylaw and policy. The first
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one is the sewer connection bylaw.
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Okay. Um sewer connection bylaw. I do
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have a question regarding the profit
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line and um the definition thereof. um
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in order for us to approve this um
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without any definition in it um
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should we be adding it now or I mean I
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don't want to belabor this one at all.
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So that would be to council's decision.
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Um it's hard for us to explicitly define
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where the property line is with a
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survey. Uh we have a vague idea based on
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uh easements and road ends. Uh we do
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have a pin locator to look at uh
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property lines if they are marked. Um so
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I do if council wishes to have a
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definition hinged
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by
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you can come back.
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I just want to read this just for a
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second about the connection and
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maybe 68 or
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you think you have 6 a.m.
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Six six.
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» Yeah. In the dialogue.
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It might cover what I'm looking for. The
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owner of a building the nearest part of
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which is not rather than 300 ft from
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shall be required.
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No, that's just
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» Yeah it does not define the property
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line. Um and what what we could rely on
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and perhaps Mr. of Pearson helping you
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know that GIS technician Amanda B for
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the town of Turo u can measure out from
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uh roadways or property lines that are
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in our GIS system and we should be able
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to to come up with measurements that
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define the property line but that
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doesn't define it within the bylaw that
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just gives us the measurement
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» The the main thing is um to measure
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based on the the data that our GIS
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technician has available. Um it's only
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approximate and so if you're depending
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on how important understanding exactly
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where that line is though I would say
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it's questionable. Yeah. Yeah. certainly
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do.
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» Is number eight covered
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all costs associated with the
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installation, connection, maintenance or
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repair of
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with the exception of the portion of
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connection from the property line to the
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main line
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which is the responsibility of the town.
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So, so that would cover it correct. So
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the property line no matter where the
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property line actually is from the
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property line to the main line is the
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tax responsibility. Correct. Correct.
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» I think the issue at hand is we just
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can't definitively pinpoint where the
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property line is right without a survey.
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Um but we'll be able to you know get
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very very close.
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» Yeah. But I think number eight covers
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what I'm what I'm looking for is the
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road portion sidewalk portion right or
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partial lawn or whatever. Yeah. Okay.
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All right.
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With that, I will make
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a motion that council
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approve
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the changing of the wording of section 8
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in the sewer connection bylaw
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T26-10.
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Uh moved by counselor Ros. Second by
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counselor LeBlanc. All those in favor?
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Motion carried.
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The second pylon policy we have this
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evening is the procurement policy.
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I'll make that motion that council
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approve
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the adding of the section of purchasing
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of equipment to the procurement policy
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number 2026-05.
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Moved
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» By councelor Osborne.
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Seconded by council in favor
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motion carried.
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Moving on to number 12 which is council
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updates.
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Councelor Rosmore I have a brief update.
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It's regarding my attendance for the
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FCM. Um I attended the FCM on behalf of
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the town in June. Um
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the FCM this year focused on a couple of
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things. Um it was about communities. It
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was about a lot about water and
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wastewater and it was about um stability
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within municipal government or the
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instability of municipal government. Um
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I took in a number of um sessions on
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social media bullying, intimidation,
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incivility
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um and tools on how to
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um cope with that. Um
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Nova Scotia isn't um the only province
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that's going through this. It's it's
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across the country. The other um session
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um that um was in particular interest
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I'm
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the CIO implied and it's very in the
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public but it takes a couple of case
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this way. We were uh first ones in the
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old saying goes first in first serve.
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Thank you, council.
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» Nothing.
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» I have nothing. We have no in camera
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session this evening and follow the
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meeting agenda at 7:27.