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[0:00] VIII.1. Approval of the Council Meeting Minutes for November 10, 2025Approval of the Council Work Session Meeting Minutes for November 18, 2025Approval of the Hometown Connection Legislative Meeting Minutes for November 24, 2025
[0:00] IX.2. Tree Give Away Event - Grant ReLeaf  Presented by: Rep. Regina Lewis-Ward
[0:00] X.3. A. 2026 Event Calendars2026 City Events 2026 Main Street Events2026 Mayor/Council InitiativesB. Renewal of Board/Committee AppointmentsMain Street Advisory Board: Willie Hopkins, Anika Potts, Crystal Park, Camille Mason, and Vanessa GibsonTerm Ends: December 31, 2027Downtown Development Authority: Kenya Cook, Jerry Mays, and Toseika ThomasTerm Ends: December 31, 2029Youth Council Advisory Council: Dr. Alfreda Gourdine, Denita Minnis, Candis Jones, and Sharika ZellarsTerm Ends: December 31, 2029Ethics Board: Mary Scott and Angela JenkinsTerm Ends: December 31, 2029Citizens Police Advisory CouncilDistrict 1 - Carmen ReeseDistrict 2 - Thomas SmithDistrict 3 - William DanielsDistrict 4 - Paige Jones IIIDistrict 5 - Raymond MartinAt-Large (Mayor) - Pastor Lavell SandersBishop LaRay Tillman – Faith Based Community RepresentativeReggie Sylvain – Business Community RepresentativeNeat Robinson, Zone 1Nathan Banks, Zone 2Judy Neal, Zone 4Term Expires December 31, 2027
[0:00] XI.4. Council Consideration to approve Revised Copy of the SSD (Special Services District) Map. Presented by: Shawn Edmondson
[0:00] XI.5. SECOND READING - Council Consideration to approve FY2025 Budget Amendment Ordinance in the amount of $8,852,935.00. Presented by: Frank Milazi
[0:00] XI.6. SECOND READING - Council Consideration to approve an ordinance to amend Title 3 of the Stockbridge Code of Ordinances regarding "Finance"; to amend Chapter 3.20 thereof entitled "Credit Card Payments"; to provide for Convenience Fees for certain transactions citywide effective January 1, 2026. Presented by: Frank Milazi
[0:00] XIII.7. APPEAL CASE #AP-2025-02. (Council District 4).Consideration of an appeal of the denial of an application for an alcohol license by Reynell Hay, per City of Stockbridge letter dated September 5, 2025.   The applicant proposed locating a package store at 110 Rock Quarry Road (Parcel #S33-01011002).  Applicant: Reynell Hay.  Agent: Law Firm of Smith, Welch, Webb & White.
[0:00] XIII.8. SPECIAL USE PERMIT CASE #SP-2025-04. (Council District 4.)Consideration of a request for a special use permit for a portion of the property at 4498 North Henry Boulevard  to allow the development and operation of a quick-serve restaurant with drive-through windows and / or lanes.  Property Owner: City of Stockbridge. Applicant: Royal TH, LLC.   Agent: Battle Law, PC.  Proposed Business: Tim Wharton’s, a coffee restaurant.   Zoning District: C-2 (General Commercial). The property is located in Land Lot 61 of District 12 within the Stockbridge City Limits, and it contains 1.32 +/- acres.  The applicant intends to develop only a 0.8-acre portion of the property.
[0:00] XIII.9. ZONING MODIFICATION CASE #ZM-2025-03. (Council District 4.)Consideration of a request for a zoning modification to Rezoning Case #RZ-2023-02 for property at 258 and 264 Valley Hill Road, plus Parcel #S08-01020000, for the purposes of 1) increasing the number of subdivision lots from 16 to 28, and 2) changing the location and types of amenities to be included within the subdivision. Zoning District: SR (Suburban Residential).  Property Owners: Claudia Perez Granados (for 258 Valley Hill Road) and Alejandro Granados Encinales (for 264 Valley Hill Road and Parcel #S08-01020000).   Applicants: Claudia Perez Granados and Alejandro Granados Encinales. Agent: Jacqueline Funicello.  The property is located in Land Lot 92 of District 12 within the Stockbridge City Limits, and it contains 17.062 +/- total acres within three parcels, as is described below. ~258 Valley Hill Road Parcel #S09-06010000)--Contains 2.2492 +/- acres~264 Valley Hill Road Parcel #S08-01010000)--Contains 6.5254 +/-
[0:00] XIII.10. ANNEXATION CASE #AX-2025-02. (Property would be located in Council District 5.)Consideration of a request for the annexation, using the 100 percent annexation method, of the property at 2220 Jodeco Road (off Feucht Drive), plus the adjacent Parcel #052-01020001, from unincorporated Henry County into the Stockbridge City Limits.  Purpose: To allow for the construction of a multifamily (apartment) development. Property Owner: Kenneth J. Butcher as representative for Glenn D. Cook, Carol J. Cook, Julia A. Cook, Bryan Cook, and Debra C. Butcher.  Applicant: Emory Equity, LLC.  Agent: Dennis J. Webb, Attorney with the law firm of Smith, Gambrell & Russell, LLP.  The property is located in Land Lot 51 of District 6, and it contains two parcels, as are listed below, with 24.995 + / - total acres. ~ 2220 Jodeco Road -- Contains 21.494 +/- acres.~ Parcel #052-01020001 – Contains 3.501 +/- acres.
[0:00] XIII.11. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT CASE #CP-2025-03.  (Property would be located in Council District 5.)Consideration of a request for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment for property at 2220 Jodeco Road (off Feucht Drive), plus the adjacent Parcel #052-01020001, if and after the property is annexed into the Stockbridge City Limits. The property currently has the Henry County future land use designation of “High-Density Mixed-Use”, and the applicant requests that it be assigned the City of Stockbridge’s future land use designation of “High-Density Residential.”  Purpose: To allow for the construction of a multifamily (apartment) development. Property Owner: Kenneth J. Butcher as representative for Glenn D. Cook, Carol J. Cook, Julia A. Cook, Bryan Cook, and Debra C. Butcher.   Applicant: Emory Equity, LLC.   Agent: Dennis J. Webb, Attorney with the law firm of Smith, Gambrell & Russell, LLP.  The property is located in Land Lot 51 of District 6, and it contains two parcels, as are listed
[0:00] XIII.12. REZONING CASE #RZ-2025-04. (Property would be located in Council District 5.) Consideration of a request for the rezoning of the property at 2220 Jodeco Road (off Feucht Drive), plus the adjacent Parcel #052-01020001, if and after the property is annexed into the Stockbridge City Limits. The property’s current Henry County zoning district is ‘C-3’ (Heavy Commercial), and the applicant requests that the property be assigned the City of Stockbridge’s zoning district of ‘MFR’ (“Multiple Family Residential”). Purpose: To allow for the construction of a multifamily (apartment) development. Property Owner: Kenneth J. Butcher as representative for Glenn D. Cook, Carol J. Cook, Julia A. Cook, Bryan Cook, and Debra C. Butcher.  Applicant: Emory Equity, LLC.  Agent: Dennis J. Webb, Attorney with the law firm of Smith, Gambrell & Russell, LLP.  The property is located in Land Lot 51 of District 6, and it contains two parcels, as are listed below, with 24.995 + / - total acres. ~ 2220 Jod
[0:00] XIII.13. FINAL READING & ADOPTION - Proposed FY2026 Operating Budget/Capital Improvements Plan
[0:00] XIII.14. SECOND READING - TEXT AMENDMENT CASE #TX-2025-04 FOR FAÇADE BUILDING MATERIALS. (Citywide)Consideration of an ordinance to revise Section 4.4.4 of the Unified Development Code (UDC) to establish updated requirements for building façade materials for non-residential and multi-family structures. The proposed ordinance outlines material standards to promote architectural consistency, durability, and neighborhood compatibility
[0:00] XIII.15. SECOND READING - TEXT AMENDMENT CASE #TX-2025-05 FOR TWO-CAR GARAGES. (Citywide)Consideration of an ordinance to amend Section 4.4.2(F)(2) of the Unified Development Code (UDC) to require two-car garages for all single-family homes, townhomes, and each unit within duplexes. This amendment updates the architectural standards to promote adequate off-street parking and consistent residential design.
[0:00] XIII.16. SECOND READING - TEXT AMENDMENT CASE #TX-2025-06 FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. (Council Districts 4 and 5)Consideration of an ordinance to adopt Title 9, Chapter 200 of the Municipal Code of Ordinance for the City of Stockbridge to establish regulations for Entertainment Districts within the City. The ordinance outlines operational standards, alcohol permitting, smoking establishment requirements, and enforcement provisions to support safe and vibrant public spaces.
[0:00] XIII.17. SECOND READING - TEXT AMENDMENT CASE #TX-2025-07 FOR OUTDOOR FESTIVALS. (Citywide) Consideration of an ordinance to revise Title 9, Chapter 28, Section 040 of the Municipal Code of Ordinances for the City of Stockbridge to establish updated permitting requirements for outdoor festivals and temporary special events within the City. The proposed ordinance outlines application procedures, public safety measures, and fee structures to ensure responsible event management.
[0:00] XIII.18. SECOND READING - TEXT AMENDMENT CASE #TX-2025-08 FOR TEMPORARY ALCOHOL LICENSES. (Citywide)Consideration of an amendment to Chapter 9.04, Section 595.1 of the Municipal Code of Ordinances for the City of Stockbridge to establish a permitting process for temporary alcohol sales at outdoor events and special events within the City. The ordinance outlines application procedures, fee structures, and eligibility criteria for both nonprofit and commercial applicants.
[0:00] XIII.19. SECOND READING - TEXT AMENDMENT CASE #TX-2025-10 FOR CONTAINER-BASED COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. (District 4)Consideration of an ordinance to amend Sections 2.5.3(E) and 2.5.3(H) of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code (UDC) to allow container-based commercial buildings as a type of “Special Use” within the Downtown Village Overlay District.
[0:00] XIV.20. Council consideration to approve the Public Works Maintenance Shop – Phase 2 interior build-out with Prime Contractors, Inc. in the amount of $2,241,455.00. Funding source is from SPLOST VI.
[0:00] XIV.21. Council consideration to approve Change Order No. 2 for the 2025 LMIG Paving Project with Blount Construction Company in the amount of $109,689.20. Funding Source: TSPLOST.
[0:00] XIV.22. Council consideration to approve Change Order No. 3 for the Walter Way, Pine View and Memorial Park Lift Station and Force Main Rehabilitation Project with Sol Construction, LLC in the amount of $256,216.00. Funding Source is from SPLOST VI.
[0:00] XIV.23. Council Consideration to approve the award of the Governor's Office of Highway Safety H.E.A.T. Grant in the amount of $268,928.00. The effective date of the grant is December 1, 2025, through September 30, 2026. Allowed costs incurred within this period are reimbursable at a rate of 100% of the approved federal funds allocated above.
[0:00] Council meetings will be held in the City Council Chamber. Meeting dates, locations and times are subject to change. Please contact City Hall offices at 770-389-7900 or visit the website www.stockbridgega.org for updates.Citywide Development Authority Meeting, Second Tuesday of each month at 6:00 p.m. — City Hall Levi Meeting Room (Dec 9)Community Zoning and Information Meeting (CZIM) Wednesday, December 10th CANCELLEDMain Street Advisory Board Meeting, Second Friday of each Month, at 9:00 a.m. at the Downtown Connection Center 130 M L King Sr. Heritage Trail (Dec 12)Downtown Development Authority Board Meeting, Third Tuesday of each month, at 6:00 p.m. at the Downtown Connection Center, 130 M L King Sr. Heritage Trail (Dec 16)Planning Commission Meeting, Third Thursday of each month at 6:30 p.m. (Dec 18) CANCELLEDYouth Council Advisory Committee Meeting, Third Thursday of each month, at 6:30 p.m. — City Hall Levi Meeting Room (Dec 18)UPCOMING CITY EVENTS / INITIATIVES Join the City of
[19:44] I. CALL TO ORDER
[19:49] II. INVOCATION
[20:50] III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
[21:02] IV. ROLL CALL
[21:27] V. ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA
[22:54] VI. CEREMONIAL REVIEW - Proclamation Stockbridge Middle School Football Team and Barbara Coleman/Connecting Henry
[23:20] VII. PUBLIC COMMENTS - All persons wishing to speak for public comment must sign in with the City Clerk prior to the beginning of the meeting. You must sign your name, address, and phone number. You will be able to address the Mayor and Council for three (3) minutes. Speakers must respect all members of the elected body, officials, and staff. Defamation, unruliness and/or swearing will not be tolerated while meetings are in session.
[25:48] VIII. ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES
[26:14] IX. PRESENTATION
[34:17] X. CONSENT AGENDA
[39:23] XI. OLD BUSINESS
[1:53:57] XIII. PUBLIC HEARING
[5:36:43] XIV. NEW BUSINESS
[6:00:57] XV. ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING MEETINGS & EVENTS
[6:02:04] XVI. MAYOR'S COMMENTS (Mayor Anthony Ford)
[6:03:49] XII. EXECUTIVE SESSION (Exemptions to the Georgia Open Meetings Acts) Real Estate, Personnel, Litigation and CyberSecurity .
[6:05:10] XVII. ADJOURNMENT

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[0:23] That's another glorious day in the city of St. St. St. St. St. St. St. St. St. St. St. St.
[0:29] To, Sioffa, Omega chapter day, action of Alpha Alpha Alpha, Alpha Swardy in,
[0:35] corporate rated.
[0:36] Do I hear the Ganesh Keenweer here?
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[0:39] Oh, don't skye!
[0:40] Oh, no!
[0:43] Oh, no!
[0:46] You followed that one.
[0:48] Where the city of Starbridge Polytechnic,
[0:50] recognizes organizations who show service and leadership
[0:53] strengthened the community and improve the quality of life for its residents.
[0:57] And where is Alpha Alpha Swardy in corporate,
[0:59] nation's first Greek letter organization found out by African American college women in 1908 has a long
[1:06] distinguished legacy of advancing education, civil engagement, and community service. Whereas in 2004,
[1:11] two visionary women to meet good Clemens, if I got a class flight, is she here? Is she here?
[1:16] Is she here? Okay. I know Kalisho Niel's here. I don't pass. All right. All right. Amen.
[1:21] Talk to a stand in the legacy of the Southern Cressan area, a metropolitan Atlanta,
[1:25] organizing members from the Southern Crescent Pearls Interst Group with the focus on meeting the needs of Henry and Clayton Counties
[1:33] whereas the group quickly became a force for a good establishment literacy for natural education programs, supporting youth and development
[1:40] and getting the senior outreach and providing critical assistance to families and schools throughout the community.
[1:45] Whereas on December 10, 2005, their efforts culminated with the Charity and the Sight Alpha Omega Chapter of Alpha Phi Out the School of Alpha, Alpha Cooper,
[1:54] I'm sorry, but I'm just flowing, I'm sorry, incorporate and whereas for the past 20 years
[2:02] South of Omega has continued to exemplify the service to all mankind through ongoing
[2:08] initiatives that align with the needs of stop rates and surrounding area, including
[2:12] mentorship programs, the Boulder Education, health awareness events, partnerships, the
[2:17] uplift women, families, and youth. Whereas today with more than 330 active members,
[2:21] the site of a major chapter stands as a fuller leadership and service and the value of
[2:26] partner in advancing the city of Starbridge, Vision, Unity, Opportunity and Community Pride.
[2:30] Now therefore I am finished forward by virtual authority vested in me as the
[2:33] Mayor of the city of Starbridge, Georgia. Now I'm a half of the city council members
[2:36] out now is in the London Barbecue Barbecue Barbecue Barbecue, the case again in
[2:39] the final time is to hereby proclaim December 10, 2025 as the site of a major
[2:44] chapter day in the city of Starbridge, Georgia. It occurs all residents
[2:47] to join me in celebrating Alpha Kappa Alpha Swort Incorporated
[2:50] Saia Alpha Omega Chapter for two decades of sisterhood,
[2:54] scholarship, and service that left the lasting impact
[2:58] on our city and beyond.
[2:59] And when it's there up, I have here unto set my hand
[3:02] at Grace Hill City, Starbridge, Georgia,
[3:04] on the eighth day of December, year of our Lord, 2025.
[3:07] And I started talking about Mason Longlock Group,
[3:09] but that's all that.
[3:10] Congratulations, ladies and gentlemen.
[3:12] Thank you.
[3:12] Now you're president, right?
[3:13] There you go.
[3:14] All right.
[3:15] Now, the only one that's happening
[3:17] whoever gets a problem, you have the floor. So whatever things you want to say the floor is yours
[3:21] Okay, well, thank you so much Mayor Ford and the city council
[3:24] We appreciate you we've been working with stock bridge. We're known at the stock bridge chapter
[3:29] So we have been working with stock bridge for obviously 20 years and we appreciate you're so continued support
[3:34] And we look forward to working with you in the future. Thank you so very much. Okay
[3:40] Okay,
[3:46] so
[3:46] Yes.
[3:47] Okay.
[3:47] I as Councilman Nelson Alexander want to say thank you for all the tremendous work that
[3:52] you're doing in the community and I can attest you've been on the front line and the fight
[3:57] against hunger.
[3:59] Your support for community development for real people has been essential especially during
[4:05] the federal shutdown where we were trying to grab food from any which direction your support
[4:11] What's critical and as being able to serve the rush that we have from the shutdown and the fight for hunger
[4:18] So thank you all so much
[4:19] What you did? Thank you
[4:25] You just doing this you want to say anything at all? Okay fine, so we're I don't want to block anybody so
[4:33] You want to go up there to be
[4:36] Okay
[4:40] Okay, sir
[4:40] I don't want to. You all right? I want to. Okay. Okay. Okay.
[4:49] All right. So we'll go back here later behind here for the pressing background spread out.
[4:53] Okay. Okay. Okay.
[5:15] Well, center of the right here and then we'll continue on.
[19:36] All right. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we'll get started with our council meeting. This is December 8th, 2025 and I have 612 on that note.
[19:47] I'd like to get the invocation to Mr. Charles Marshall, please. If please stand if you can, ladies and gentlemen.
[19:54] They make sure the mic is on the screen there sir, right?
[20:02] But it's green.
[20:26] It's leading the night.
[20:32] It's engaging the business of this framework, but it's less
[20:36] beyond their accompaniment and all of it.
[20:40] Thank you for that.
[20:42] And we send it there in full light.
[20:45] Can you proceed with there about that at all times?
[20:48] Amen.
[20:50] Thank you.
[20:50] Please, please.
[20:51] I'm a President of the League of the United States of America.
[20:55] Instead of a project, a win-a-stand, one nation, unbegotten, individuality, and justice
[21:02] for all.
[21:03] Roll call, Madam Clerk.
[21:08] Good evening.
[21:09] Good evening.
[21:10] Mayor, for, present.
[21:12] Mayor, for, present.
[21:13] Mayor, for, present.
[21:14] Councilmember Thomas.
[21:16] Set the record reflect.
[21:18] Councilmember Thomas is not an attendance.
[21:20] Councilmember Berry.
[21:21] Councilmember Barbara.
[21:22] of President Council Member Alexander.
[21:25] May I forward you have a call?
[21:26] Thank you, Madam Clerk.
[21:27] Appreciate that.
[21:28] Mayor Paul Tim Gatt.
[21:29] We have some amendments to the agenda please.
[21:32] Yes, Mayor.
[21:33] I like to make a motion to amend the agenda to remove item number seven
[21:39] at the applicants request to amend.
[21:44] Also make a motion to amend the agenda to defer item number 10.
[21:49] Item number 11.
[21:50] And I don't number 12 to the February 9th, 2026 meeting.
[21:57] A motion to amend the agenda to add item number 24, the city's health insurance renewal.
[22:07] A motion to amend the agenda to add item number 25, a way finding contract renewal.
[22:15] And a motion to amend the agenda to add item number 26, the soccer field resolution, however, we would like to move that to the item number 7.
[22:30] Thank you very much. Thank you very much. There's a second in the motion. Okay, Mr. House, I say it all in favor, please indicate. Okay, it's all, so some, then favor, okay, unanimous agenda on that.
[22:41] Down in the motion to amend the scheme. To approve the rest of the agenda, please.
[22:45] Assembly. Is there a second? Mr. Bear a second down on fair, please indicate.
[22:50] Thank you council, please. Appreciate that. Okay. Madam clerk, I'll let me back up for a second.
[22:56] ceremonial review. Ladies and gentlemen, we had a ceremonial review. The Afro Cup, I have a
[23:01] swordy sigh off. Let me make a chapter here. Look at it here in Henry County and also cover
[23:05] Clayton County have their 20th anniversary celebration of course. Senator, just a couple of days ago,
[23:11] till we honor them with a proclamation honoring their 20 years of service to this particular community.
[23:16] And that's the only proclamation we did road red this evening. And on that note,
[23:21] panel clerk, are there any public comments at all?
[23:23] Yes, Mayor Mr. Charles.
[23:27] Let me read this.
[23:28] This March, if you want to come to the podium of the state's name, but let me read this
[23:32] there.
[23:32] First, public comments all persons which in speak are public comment must sign in as it
[23:36] was the city clerk prior to the beginning of the meeting.
[23:39] Massign your name, address, and phone number.
[23:41] You will be able to address the mayor in council for three minutes.
[23:44] Speak as much respect to all members of the elected body, officials, and staff.
[23:47] definition on ruralness or swearing will not be tolerated while meeting is in session.
[23:52] Mr. Marshall, please, sir.
[23:56] Happy holidays you two, sir.
[24:11] Okay, you need me to repeat all of that.
[24:13] I want to get Mr. Declare Scott at him.
[24:15] You got it, okay. I come to you this evening as a president of the Henry County Coalition Committee,
[24:20] thanking you and the council members for your commitment and developing a wonderful city of
[24:25] Stockbridge and to the great community that it is. In the 14 years of we have lived here,
[24:31] that we have seen this city grow and expand into a vibrant community with great places to
[24:36] live, shop, work, and play.
[24:38] And we thank you for that.
[24:40] We thank you for all that you do and that you continue to do as a city government.
[24:47] Now we have an opportunity to continue that growth by looking at our quality of life standards
[24:52] in developing areas of green space.
[24:55] We think that development of a brand new first class family park within the city of Stockbridge
[25:00] will be a great addition to the city's commitment of developing green space areas and improving
[25:06] the quality of life standards.
[25:09] The offer of the FIFA organization to include two new soccer fields within the new park,
[25:15] we feel only enhances the city's green space development efforts.
[25:20] Therefore, the Henry County Coalition Committee strongly supports this effort to include
[25:24] the two new soccer fields within the planned new family park and would ask for your consideration
[25:29] to approve. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Thank you, sir appreciate it. Any other public comments?
[25:37] Okay, thank you very much. Okay, on that news.
[25:45] We have, we have a presentation. What is next?
[25:48] Oh, adoption, excuse me, adoption of minutes. Because I need approval that Council City Council
[25:53] meeting minutes on November 10th, the approval of City Council, work session minutes on November 18th,
[25:58] and approve of the home town connection
[26:00] and Leslie's meeting minutes for number 20.
[26:03] I need to motion to accept those, please.
[26:06] Is there a second?
[26:07] Is there a second?
[26:08] A second.
[26:08] There's part of the second that.
[26:09] From Ms. Gantham, Ms. Barbara, I'm fair, please indicate.
[26:11] Thank you very much.
[26:12] She's now a decision there.
[26:13] And what is next?
[26:14] We have a presentation.
[26:16] I'll try to give away event.
[26:19] Grant for Relive Relief.
[26:21] Present by representative.
[26:23] Virginia Lewis Ward.
[26:25] Please.
[26:26] Representative.
[26:27] And welcome to St. Bridges by the way, which is obviously your home as well.
[26:34] And, ladies and gentlemen, if you didn't know of many years or so ago, Representative Lewis
[26:38] Ward was actually a member of the City Council, and then she decided to leave me and
[26:43] broke my heart and went on to the other things.
[26:47] We're welcome back, Representative.
[26:57] I'm here formally to talk about a tree giveaway event that's going to take place in my district, which compromise the stock bridge and stone crest.
[27:08] The purpose of the event is to increase tree canopy, which will eventually increase the overall health of the residents in the city of Stockbridge.
[27:20] Before I introduce the sustainability scientists, who is also the manager of the program, let me just share with you.
[27:29] And everyone is stuck with just not eligible.
[27:32] It's only on a certain track that the residents will be eligible.
[27:38] And there's a site called Auburday.event.
[27:44] Aubudday.eventbright.com.
[27:47] You go on to that site and you sign up.
[27:49] You put your address in.
[27:50] And you'll be notified whether or not you are eligible for the free tree.
[27:53] I'm giving away.
[27:54] And the event will take place on Aubud Day on Georgia, Aubud Day,
[27:58] which is February 20, it's 2026, and I want to thank Mayor Ford for his comments and his blessings for allowing us to work with the residents in Stockbridge to give away free trees.
[28:12] The funding is provided by
[28:17] the USDA Forest Service in partnership with the Georgia Tree Council and the Georgia Forestry Commission, that's where the funding is coming from.
[28:27] So let me introduce Charlotte King, who is the Sustainability Scientist and the also the manager of the project and she will answer any questions and give you more information about the benefits.
[28:38] Welcome.
[28:38] And by the way, I want to mention to you council.
[28:40] You just should be too docked with right in front of you on the dios here.
[28:43] That was handed out by the clerk for you representing this particular presentation as well.
[28:49] Good evening.
[28:50] My name is Charlie King, I'm a sustainability scientist, but I live here in Stockbridge, and
[28:58] Eagle Flamming, so the community is very important to me. I created the handout for you as an easy reference so that you understand
[29:06] the importance of trees in our community. Stockbridge used to be a tree city USA, but with this giveaway
[29:14] what we're trying to do is to reinforce the importance of trees in their connection to the
[29:20] growth of stock bridge, where it is being disproportionately impacted by stormwater, runoff,
[29:29] infrastructure, costs, energy costs, but also public health impacts.
[29:34] So as we look at tree plantings, whether they are part of the Skival way or urban initiatives,
[29:41] or even stock bridge public policy, I wanted to, because I am a sustainability scientist
[29:47] to understand how important this is.
[29:50] In addition, Stockbridge is well-positioned
[29:54] to emerge as a model tree smart city
[29:57] and consistent with the priorities for the...
[30:00] State of Georgia. Finally, keep in mind that both this event, as well as additional trees in urban communities,
[30:11] it reduces stormwater infrastructure costs, it lowers heat-related medical emergencies. It suppresses
[30:18] peak energy demands, strength and climate resilience in public safety, and it delivers visible,
[30:27] voter-trusted action. So with this event, we're here to try to be a resource to the city of
[30:35] Stockbridge and to answer any questions that you might have.
[30:39] Thank you for that. Council, any questions that you may have?
[30:42] Anybody? So once again, so this is of Arbor Day, February 26th, if I got it right.
[30:49] Is that right? February 20th, we'll be in the end.
[30:51] Okay, 2026, and then there's a website that we have to go on and log on to be a recipient of a free free tree as a course.
[30:59] Yes. We have given you this information, but on the orange handout that I created specifically for a stock bridge,
[31:07] it will give you references at your fingertips to answer any questions that you need about resources and many of the resources that I gave you are free.
[31:18] And so do we need to coordinate anything like our car park or place like this before there
[31:23] be distributed to folks?
[31:25] Yes, I think earlier you and I had spoke.
[31:27] We were looking at Clock Park and one of the pavilions.
[31:31] One pavilions, okay?
[31:32] And Clock Park, yeah.
[31:33] The website is obaday.eventbright.com.
[31:38] And we encourage volunteers to also sign up because we need folks to help give out the trees.
[31:43] But number one, as City Council, anything you can do to promote this giveaway, we're only
[31:50] as good as homeowners and landlords and other eligible individuals come and take these
[32:00] trees.
[32:01] For them not to be received, would be a huge waste.
[32:07] Remember the trees contribute to the canopy for the entire city.
[32:12] Okay. Good. Well, I'll go ahead, sir.
[32:15] Let me thank you so much for bringing this forward. Certainly we've been trying to be supportive as possible.
[32:20] Thank you representative. We certainly want to make sure we're doing the things.
[32:24] Certainly we have gone above. I know one of the things that we've done.
[32:27] We saw it out to plant trees in the median.
[32:31] And that's something that we have seen a lot on this side of town.
[32:33] So I see homeowners, everybody else.
[32:36] So what if the city wanted some of the trees?
[32:37] Yes, we do want to, we do want the city to contribute, we would love it if Stockbridge
[32:43] became, again, a tree city USA, but also even though you're planning trees in the median,
[32:50] there are other things that we like to see you do.
[32:54] A tree inventory would be really great, planning native species, all of those things will help
[33:00] overall air quality, stormwater runoff, and the infrastructure or the city.
[33:04] Well, certainly because we do the community cleanup every quarter like the plant some of these trees
[33:10] Well, I'm not so good on tree topping as well. My job is to try to answer your questions and to be a resource.
[33:18] Absolutely. Thank you.
[33:21] Sure.
[33:21] Did you have any digital print media that we can share on our social media platforms and things in that nature?
[33:28] You can share the sign-up site and we can get you something.
[33:34] Anything else that you need on the reference sheet that I gave you?
[33:38] Those are tremendous resources and I always like to emphasize that those resources are
[33:44] your tax dollars that work but if you need anything specific to stock bridge, we're happy
[33:50] to create that for you and we do have four months before it's a bit but we are in the
[33:57] So whatever we can get you to do to help us promote it would be an added bonus.
[34:05] Okay.
[34:06] Good.
[34:06] We'll do that.
[34:09] That's it.
[34:09] Questions?
[34:10] Okay.
[34:10] Representative, thank you very much.
[34:12] Happy holidays to you.
[34:15] Council will have now's consent agenda.
[34:17] It deals with, of course, the 2026 event calendar event.
[34:20] City events, Main Street events.
[34:22] Mayor of Council initiatives, along with the renewal of board committee appointments on
[34:28] the Main Street Advisory Board, William Hopkins, Anita Pax, Christopher Park, Camilla Mason, Vanessa Gipson,
[34:34] the Termins of 327-2027, downtown of Velothoria, Kenya, Cook, Jerry Mays, Jessica, Tuseca, Thomas,
[34:44] December 1st, 2021, New Council of Advisory Council of Advisory Council, Dr. Frida Gordin,
[34:51] to need a Mimus, Candace Jones, and Cicara Sellers.
[34:56] December 1, 2021, Out of Explored, Mary Scott, Angela Jenkins,
[35:01] Termans on 31, December 29, and then for the City of Police,
[35:05] the Advisory Council of District 1 and Commerce,
[35:07] is with two Thomas Smith, there's three William Daniels,
[35:10] there's a four page, the third page Jones, the third,
[35:14] there's a five Raymond Martin, the Mayor of large,
[35:17] the Pastor of the Vell Sanders, Bishop of Lorraine Tillman,
[35:20] and the face-based community representative,
[35:22] Reggie Savannahing, a business community representative,
[35:24] Nate Robinson's own one, Nathan Banks own two,
[35:27] Judy Neill's own four.
[35:29] So I'll do it on the police chief's selection there.
[35:32] And those terms ended on the 31st of December 20, 27.
[35:35] All right, that's all part of the consent agenda.
[35:37] If I have a second motion to approve in a second, please.
[35:42] So move for Mr. Barri, is there a second?
[35:46] Mr. Alzaz, second, all fair, please indicate?
[35:53] Yes, ma'am.
[35:56] On this consent agenda, there's just the calendar of events that we're approving.
[36:07] I'm sorry.
[36:08] I didn't go through each event on the calendar.
[36:12] You know what?
[36:13] My question is to the mayor.
[36:15] I just want to make sure that we are just approving just the calendar.
[36:21] the dates for these city events.
[36:25] Yes, I mean.
[36:27] Support the budget.
[36:29] Yes.
[36:30] The city events.
[36:31] The city events.
[36:33] Basically events.
[36:34] And in all the necessities for the mayor council.
[36:36] That's right.
[36:37] So your favorite mayor.
[36:38] Let me see this before.
[36:40] I'm going to take my vote back.
[36:43] This is what I say we should do.
[36:44] We should revisit this at the end once we finish.
[36:48] Because I have a couple of changes that I want to put in the budget.
[36:51] one of the events is the African-American history month event, which is not on the schedule of the calendar.
[36:57] So probably we should come back to revisit it.
[36:59] On this basis, I don't know, the calendar is only, not the, on the calendar, on the calendar.
[37:06] Okay, so you're talking about the, the overall calendar when it comes to city events,
[37:12] may it's revets Americano and this is, right, there's a couple of changes on this.
[37:15] just so let's let's fall back and bring that back out that we approve the budget with the changes
[37:22] and then we'll have. Oh sure, really? Is that correct? So you're a sub dancer? Yes.
[37:30] So I would be saying that original and no, no, it's not making me.
[37:36] So I would be saying that original and then make a motion that we move agenda item 3 to the end of the agenda.
[37:44] Let me make a, let me make a, I don't know if there's a whole item for you. Just talking about one place.
[37:48] People who are voting on all of them together. So you, you would think,
[37:51] That's all right.
[37:53] That's a verification.
[37:55] So there's two items on the consent agenda.
[37:57] One is the calendars.
[37:58] And then the other.
[37:59] All the other are the red.
[38:00] Are you only asking that the calendars.
[38:03] Be removed from the consent agenda.
[38:05] That's that's what my substance.
[38:06] That's what that's why.
[38:07] That's only the account.
[38:08] Only count events.
[38:09] Everybody else.
[38:10] Everything else can get approved.
[38:12] We just didn't want to count or this.
[38:14] That's true.
[38:15] That's true.
[38:16] Okay.
[38:16] So we removed the calendar.
[38:18] Okay.
[38:19] So, let me make a motion to move from consent agenda item three.
[38:28] Only of the 2026 calendar events to include city events, mainstream events, mayor and council initiatives
[38:36] to the end of our agenda and leave the appointments as they are stated.
[38:42] I second that. Okay, from, okay, Mr. Barry to Mr. Barbara, I'll favor that. Please indicate. Okay, if we got them, we're okay. So we'll put that thank you, let's just we'll put that at the end of the old business here, see here
[39:04] 27, 27 already then. Okay, one second.
[39:19] Thank you for that. Okay. Okay, old business.
[39:25] Council consideration approved, revised copy and SD special services, different map.
[39:31] Michelle, please.
[39:58] Good evening, Mayor and Council.
[40:01] As we were called back in October of last year, the Mayor and Council did approve the SSD map.
[40:08] However, during the budget retreat, there was some modifications to the map.
[40:13] And this is the new map indicates these particular changes.
[40:34] So the 2026 SSD map includes 1134 parcels that I primarily concentrated along North Henry Boulevard.
[40:43] Rock Query Road and Eagles Land in the Parkway and State Route 138.
[40:49] It's important to note that these parcels contain in the city's entertainment district.
[40:53] Also in the SSDs this includes the downtown village near North Henry Boulevard.
[40:57] in East Alana Road, the bridges of Jodico,
[41:01] at the exit 222 of I-75 alone Jodico Road.
[41:06] The S, the 2025 and the 2026,
[41:09] S-S-S-D's are remarkably similar,
[41:11] and geographic area.
[41:13] The concentration of these parcels
[41:15] and S-S-D also remains consistent
[41:17] with the 2025 to 2026.
[41:21] One of the key differences between the two versions
[41:23] is the total number of parcels
[41:25] and a geographic extent of those parcels,
[41:29] whereas the total number of parcels constitutes in the 2025 SSD is 816,
[41:35] whereas in the 2026 proposed new map is, once again, 1134,
[41:41] which is a difference of 318 parcels.
[41:44] Some of these parcels boundaries in the SSD have been expanded
[41:47] or reduced since 2025 does result in a geographic variation
[41:53] in select regions of the city.
[41:56] It is also important to note that the adjustments from 2025 map to the 2026 middle-releaf
[42:02] effects are recent update in the city's zoning district boundaries that sought to align
[42:06] the city's parcel data when we're in that of Henry County.
[42:12] Doing these updates, some of the parcels were split to a line where current plant records
[42:16] for recent development.
[42:18] As a result, these new parcels were technically added to the SSD, even though the
[42:22] graphic area of the SSD did not expand. Other parcels were merged together as a result
[42:28] some of those portions of the updated parcels were in 2025 and other portions were not.
[42:34] So this just basically update that particular amount with those particular changes to a line
[42:40] definitely with the hearing county parcels and development. So we ask approval of the new SSD map.
[42:46] Questions, council.
[42:53] Now there's no question. Is this the emotional tool
[42:55] to make that approval.
[42:57] Make that adjustment in adding those additional parts of the
[43:01] soul rule.
[43:02] From Ms. Alexander's a second.
[43:04] Mr. Barry's second and I'm very pleased
[43:06] in the case.
[43:09] Ms. Barbara?
[43:12] You have a comment.
[43:13] You approve?
[43:14] At home.
[43:16] Okay.
[43:20] She said you're opposed?
[43:21] Okay.
[43:22] Opposes.
[43:22] Okay.
[43:23] So, all right.
[43:24] So, right now, let me do this.
[43:26] Let me make a motion to table.
[43:28] and then return back, we're saying my motion, motion, the table.
[43:33] Okay, is there a motion to table? You've made a motion, is there a second to that?
[43:38] To table, you want to get this approved?
[43:40] We need to get this approved, and certainly, I don't know where Ms. Gantt went to, but certainly, we need this approved.
[43:48] Is there a second to table? Two tables.
[43:53] Come here, it's very second, I'll favor the table.
[44:00] Is it proper?
[44:01] Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. I know we have a very heavy agenda and I want to keep things moving along.
[44:11] I know that there may have been a consensus of the council to add this item to the agenda.
[44:17] I don't know what's driving this, so I'm not going to support it, because I have not been a part of any discussions regarding this.
[44:28] This new map, it involves a large portion of the district that I represent, the district in which I am duly elected to represent, but no discussions or conversations prior to right now have been had with me and no, I'm not going to call staff and talk to them behind the scenes.
[44:54] No, I'm not going to have any of those kinds of discussions.
[45:00] If the consensus of the council voted and in support of adding this item to the agenda, I expect that the consensus of the council will support it all the way through.
[45:12] So, I won't be supporting this.
[45:14] Thank you, sir.
[45:14] Right now, the motion, motion, motion, we don't have a vote.
[45:17] I resented my motion to approve.
[45:21] So, there's no vote. We'll just leave it there and move on to the next.
[45:24] Exactly. Exactly. That's exactly what's going to happen.
[45:26] Okay. All right. Second reading for the, there's no vote, not second reading for the
[45:30] Council to say, the race to approve the FY 2025 budget amendment ordinance in amount of
[45:36] 8858 million, 885, excuse me, 8,852,935 dollars. Mr. Mazzalesi, please.
[46:24] Good evening. May I
[46:25] even answer? This is Gwynetta Wend, 25 budget that we are trying to amend. So we amend
[46:34] the budget when you have less or more revenues than expected or you have more expenditures than
[46:43] revenue than expected so that the budget is any balance. So as we said in the past two public hearings,
[46:56] the 2025 budget, there were some funds that were not budgeted for, but there were some expenses.
[47:04] So we are bringing all active funds into balance, into budget, whether there is zero or there are some active district in place.
[47:17] So in the first place, we have a general fund that was adopted with 29 million, 290, 330 and 11.
[47:28] that was the adoption of the budget on revenue side. But we are amending we expect revenues
[47:36] in 2025 to move from 29.2 million to 32.1 million. And we have corresponding expenses
[47:45] as the stipulated general fund expenses we start with governing body, C2c, executive, finance,
[47:55] 90-part mental, business services, information technology, human resources, governing,
[48:02] government buildings, municipal courts, police administration, public works, city events,
[48:09] parks, permitting, planning, and zoning, economic development, ministry, GIS, and other funding.
[48:17] Financial funding for a total of 29.22, that's what was budgeted for.
[48:23] So with the revision of revenues, the corresponding expenses also have been adjusted to 32.1, that's general fund.
[48:41] Then we get into other funds.
[48:45] Other funds is still the same as you see.
[48:48] There are some funds, for example, funding number one, which is confiscated assets.
[48:54] We budgeted nothing, but you see that their expenses, their 3038, that's the wisdom of making adjustment for active funds.
[49:04] Property and evidence. Again, budgeted nothing, but you see we have 9,000 there.
[49:10] upper, we budgeted zero, but we have 1.9 million in the budget, because we still have
[49:21] got obligations to meet until upper funds end in the 2026, December 2026, so that's
[49:31] why you see upper there, but you cannot bring any new expenses for upper, because it's closed,
[49:38] We just have to meet those obligations.
[49:42] Then you have grants hotel,
[49:45] Splash 5, which is the winding up,
[49:48] Splash 6T Splash's urban development,
[49:51] Seidwide projects, downtown development,
[49:55] Seidwide development, public facilities,
[49:59] Impact phase, semi-tally, water, sewer,
[50:03] Sensation, conference centre, and amphitheater.
[50:06] So, total of those ones, the adopted 2025 budget, we are 34.3 million, we anticipate that it will be 40.4 million.
[50:25] Then you have a summary at the end of general fund.
[50:29] That's the one that we said that a 2.1 million, then those other funds for a total of 72 million.
[50:38] And that is anticipation for 2020-25, however the budget was adopted the RT63.6 million
[50:47] with a difference of 8.8 million, that's the one we are asking, Councilor to consider
[50:54] for adoption to make sure that we are in line in balancing revenue equal expenses.
[51:06] Well, Graham, so otherwise we need a motion to accept this adjustment for this amendment.
[51:12] Let's do any questions, additional questions.
[51:18] Okay, I do have some additional statements, so certainly what is really happening, what
[51:22] you have described is an increase in revenue and in order to balance the budget and certainly
[51:30] we have projections that we have made throughout the year, but certainly there are some good
[51:34] in this and there's some not so good news in this and that the expenses were up, but the good news
[51:43] or even better news is that the revenue was up and we're going to be able to cover this. That's correct.
[51:49] Yeah, budget payment meant you have to have revenue to amend the budget. So they's the revenue
[51:55] corresponding with expenses. However, there are some funds that they don't have revenues in
[52:01] revenues so you have to move revenues from other funds, but at the end of it you are making
[52:07] the budgets to be in balance right so generally this is a standard customary practice by
[52:15] every city and county government that they have to endure they have to seek budget amendments
[52:20] to make sure that the balance the budget is balanced because the state requires a balance
[52:25] budget, is that correct? That is correct. Okay. Now, as we go down this land.
[52:30] And then you have come in. You've done a tremendous amount of work in order to make sure that the budget was balanced and that we previously, you made several announcements that we needed to make a rather large adjustment, which was the $30 million to correct the budget.
[52:49] So, we hear a lot of misstatements out there about $30 million was missing, $30 million was never missing.
[52:58] We simply needed to do the transfers in order to correct the process in order to move their amounts to the right accounts.
[53:05] And you had indicated the money was pretty much in the splost accounts.
[53:09] But we had paid for those splost projects out of the general fund, which they should have been paid out of the splost.
[53:16] So basically, you had to move those philosophers in order to correct or to put the things in the right account.
[53:26] And I kind of summarize this by saying, if you look at your household and you had the money in your checking account, your savings account,
[53:36] and the money should have been in your checking account, or you had it in your IRA, or you had it in your CD, and it needed to be in your checking account in order to pay bills.
[53:45] It was simply in the wrong accounts because those accounts should have been in order for it to be in the right accounts
[53:51] They should have come to council the council would have voted on it and we would have put it in the right account
[53:57] Because we would have taken it out of the CD and we would have put it in the check in account to pay the bill
[54:02] Originally had the process been followed correctly in the years that we're adjusted
[54:08] That is a correct side
[54:10] What we are doing here was being done in the past, but it was being done behind the scenes that he did not have authorization of the council.
[54:22] because it's still money was being moved from one fund to the other.
[54:26] There are some more funds that they didn't have enough revenues.
[54:30] So the movement and the balancing can only be authorized by the governing body.
[54:36] The two people opinion in this,
[54:38] if the individuals who were serving their commission,
[54:41] serving in the finance and in the leadership position of the city,
[54:46] have brought those transfers to the council in order for us
[54:51] transfer the money to the correct account. We want the bill in a position in the first place, what
[54:56] would we? No, it would not be. But here we are now that you know, we just have to do
[55:04] diligence. We can't spend more than what we bring in. And so far, it doesn't show that the
[55:10] city is blocked, but we are just making sure that all funds are in balance. Whether there is money or
[55:16] way that we move money, it should be transported into that tea, this is what we are doing.
[55:22] So we are putting all active funds for you to know what is happening in this fund every fund.
[55:29] Right, and because of the substantial work that you have done and that you have gotten
[55:33] these books balanced, we're actually going to submit or submit it for an award. Is that correct?
[55:40] That is correct. Absolutely. So thank you. I appreciate it. And everybody
[55:45] What you had at loud and clearly, the city's up for a financial award, Mr. Malazia, because of the outstanding work that has been done to put the city books back into accordance with what should have been done initially in the first place.
[55:59] Cudos to you, sir, and your department for making sure that we're doing what we need to do to make sure that the books balance and that we're looking for a brighter future.
[56:09] So thank you.
[56:10] All right, you know the comments, sorry, not go here please.
[56:16] Mr. Malazi, this $10,000 for a cemetery.
[56:20] Can you tell me what is that revenue expense?
[56:24] It's both. It's revenue and expenditures.
[56:27] So, cemetery, there are no revenues there.
[56:30] They are very minimal, but they are meant in us to be done.
[56:34] And we have also to remember that the cemetery has got found.
[56:37] there are some people that give in. We have money. Now it's about 12,000. That has been
[56:47] invested. So every year we have to take 10,000 this year. We have 20,000, 26. We have
[56:53] taken 20,000 from general fund to put similarly for developments that will be there. But every
[57:01] year we take 10,000, 10,000. But 20,000, 26, they feel like that's 10,000 will not be enough.
[57:07] So we have budgeted, you will see it in the transfer.
[57:10] That is only temporary for the four,
[57:14] where are the others transfers, 30, 43, I think.
[57:19] Thank you, sir.
[57:20] One more question.
[57:21] The amphitheater.
[57:23] I know that we budgeted $2.6 million in 2025.
[57:29] This budget amendment, the 4.4 million,
[57:34] That's in addition to what was originally approved and about that is correct that's what we're anticipating as of now
[57:42] We have four point three, but we still have got some bills to pay so we are expecting to be
[57:49] 4.4 but should that be less
[57:53] We will because we still have budget amendment final budget amendment for 225 is is there to come
[57:59] So this is not, this is the media budget amendment, even though it's coming late, so there will be one final to close 20-25.
[58:08] Okay, can you explain why this portion of the budget amendment is coming to us so late?
[58:14] And we have another one for this year.
[58:18] Logistics?
[58:21] Thank you, sir.
[58:22] Yes, sir.
[58:23] You know, the question in the motion to accept is proposal to make this adjustment, is there a second?
[58:31] It's a very second there for Missiles and I'm sorry, I'm very pleased in the cake.
[58:38] I will oppose, and if I can, may I forward?
[58:41] Three, three, one, motion pass, go ahead of your comments.
[58:44] Really quick.
[58:46] So I know with, at least, one of these items, the amphitheater operations.
[58:51] those discussions were had in an executive session in which the Council authorized and
[58:58] Mr. Malazi to proceed with the expenses of the operation of the amphitheater in the
[59:05] 2025 concert season. They authorized approval already. We're just approving this now to just
[59:15] that decision that was made.
[59:18] There are certain discussions regarding our city's operation,
[59:24] and the amphitheater that must be had in the public meeting,
[59:29] not behind closed doors.
[59:31] T-spost, spost, the amphitheater operations,
[59:35] are discussions that must be had in the public meeting.
[59:40] I just wanted to say that for the record, sir.
[59:42] Thank you.
[59:42] Yeah, I want to respond to that. Okay, certainly it is never no one would ever vote in
[59:49] executive session. That's illegal. You can't do that. We don't vote in a executive session.
[59:54] At first of all, everything that we discussed in executive session is privilege. You couldn't come out here and say it on the
[1:00:00] Recreful, because that's the way, that's what we do. But to insinuate that we have voted back in
[1:00:07] exactly the session as an insult to us. It's not true. And none of us vote. We have to come out here to
[1:00:13] vote in front of you all. No votes can be taken place in executive session. No one has ever done that.
[1:00:20] And so you understand what the treasurer is doing. It is required by Georgia State law that every
[1:00:26] community have a balanced budget.
[1:00:29] Should we not balance this budget,
[1:00:31] we will be in violation of said state law.
[1:00:35] So, Mr. Malazi is doing what's necessary
[1:00:38] as city and county governments do.
[1:00:40] The county does budget amendments.
[1:00:42] I every city around here does budget amendments.
[1:00:45] That's what they do.
[1:00:46] Because all you can do is forecast the budget.
[1:00:49] No one is not stood on us,
[1:00:51] where you can say this is gonna be exactly this
[1:00:53] and this is gonna be exactly that.
[1:00:55] what you have to do is you have to make these adjustments in order to make that happen.
[1:00:59] Tune in to the Henry County Commissioners meeting and see by to the adjustments.
[1:01:03] Tune in to Hampton, Locke's Grove have made Donna and see the same things.
[1:01:07] Except you can watch these meetings on Facebook because we wanted to make sure it was important
[1:01:11] that the community knows what's going on. Nothing has been hidden from you here.
[1:01:16] And certainly that's an insinuation. We totally improper that.
[1:01:20] We did anything that in executive session that we voted. We certainly would not ever vote in executive session and that certainly would never be legal that we could
[1:01:31] Vote in executive session, but so you understand the process here. If we did not take this vote
[1:01:38] We would violate the state law by not balancing the budget. Is that correct Mr. Malazi?
[1:01:44] That is correct.
[1:01:45] exactly so what are we to do we to sit here and say oh we're not going to do that
[1:01:50] because we are on our high horse and we don't want to make sure but a three
[1:01:54] people up here did not vote we would be in violation of state law right now he's
[1:01:59] telling us the course that we need to take in order to make this happen so three
[1:02:04] members up here did what we had to do in order to comply with state law to make
[1:02:08] sure that the budget was balanced and we just did that thank you. Second reading
[1:02:13] council consideration approved an ordinance to amend title three of the
[1:02:16] established code of ordinances regarding regarding finance to amend chapter
[1:02:21] three point two zero. They're of entitled credit card payments to revive for
[1:02:25] convenience fees for certain transactions citywide effective one generally 2026
[1:02:31] Miss Malazzi you're back up.
[1:02:40] Sorry, man.
[1:02:43] Good evening everybody. This was
[1:02:46] Just before you previously as an ordinance, a text change, however upon further investigation,
[1:02:55] it is my belief that this is not need to be an ordinance change.
[1:02:59] This is currently what is listed in Municode.
[1:03:02] I have been searching to know a veil, unfortunately through all the minutes misallidate in
[1:03:07] this lesser, of helping me find the initial motion that Council passed in order to waive
[1:03:12] the convenience fees during the pandemic.
[1:03:14] I cannot find it. Ms. Holiday did point out one mention of it in December 2022 meeting to
[1:03:23] rescind that waiver of the fees. That motion failed though and we've not been able to find anything else.
[1:03:30] So what I would propose instead is drafting a resolution that resins any prior motion and reinstate
[1:03:39] So those convenience fees, if that's council's wish.
[1:03:45] Okay, goodbye.
[1:03:46] Go ahead, Mrs. Nesson.
[1:03:48] Every day that matters.
[1:03:51] So is that something that we could do tonight?
[1:03:53] Yes.
[1:03:54] Okay, so certainly this, so everybody understands
[1:03:57] what we're trying to do.
[1:03:59] During the pandemic, we know that so many people
[1:04:02] were laid off, people lost their job.
[1:04:04] We suspended the credit card fee
[1:04:07] for paying any type of city fees during the city.
[1:04:11] So if you call the you pay your water bill,
[1:04:13] you pay your business license fee, whatever that was.
[1:04:18] We tried to give people a break just like many governments
[1:04:21] did so that we could take a little bit off of your plate
[1:04:25] in order to make sure that your budget dollar stretched
[1:04:29] when people were unemployed and in food lines.
[1:04:32] That was the tender or the circumstances
[1:04:35] which did we did that. But every time you pay your utility bill or your business license,
[1:04:43] we get part of that fee, but it is said, right? The credit card fee, the credit card company,
[1:04:49] charge the city of fee. So if you paid $100 for your business license, for example,
[1:04:57] if you use the credit card, we got like $95 or Mr. Valyze, the U.S. explained that little portion right
[1:05:04] So different credit cards. They charge differently. Some is 2%, some is a flat fee of $7, so it depends.
[1:05:14] There's no free because they are not charged. We absorb it.
[1:05:19] So when we absorb it, it doesn't give us the true picture of our revenues.
[1:05:25] Because if we have zoning, there's a fee of $200.
[1:05:30] us and did that pay by card which is $7 so that means instead of getting a 200 we get
[1:05:37] to $1.93.
[1:05:39] So that one night so in essence we're shorting ourselves on these fees because again in Europe
[1:05:44] you're example the city fee was actually $200 but we're not going to be receiving that
[1:05:50] city fee we're going to be receiving $193 but you have to multiply that times every person
[1:05:55] pays a bill with a credit card or a debit card. Certainly, it would be our desire or hope
[1:06:02] that these credit card companies don't do that, but you know they do, and they also charge you 28-29
[1:06:09] percent interest, which we have no control over either. But certainly, you know, you will still be
[1:06:15] able to come in and pay the bill and then not have that fee if you choose. But so if you choose to
[1:06:23] a credit card, the city is losing thousands of dollars with these various fees that are
[1:06:30] being charged and we're paying the credit card company for you and certainly we can't
[1:06:35] continue to do that with with this circumstances and that's pretty costome every time you use
[1:06:40] a credit card at any merchant that merchant charges you that fee they don't pay it right so in that
[1:06:48] I'd like to make a motion if that's appropriate or you to.
[1:06:52] That's your recommendation, please.
[1:06:54] That's the recommendation.
[1:06:55] To make a motion that's counsel, that's adjusted to a range state or to have these fees be effective with credit card transactions in the city when credit card payments are used to pay city invoices or city city tax other events.
[1:07:14] My question for just clarification on that would be an effective date.
[1:07:17] the prior proposal was January 1.
[1:07:21] That's the fact that they do like January 1, please.
[1:07:24] And this is a resolution as well.
[1:07:26] Yes.
[1:07:26] Be a resolution.
[1:07:27] All right.
[1:07:28] Sir, second and motion.
[1:07:30] This is very second up. I'll fairer please in the case. Okay, now this decision. Thank you very much. Thank you. Yes, sir. Good. Please. Also, this important for us to add to that that is strictly just for credit card fees. If you pay with money order or check, you still will not incur those fees. And that is strictly only for those who decide to make their payments with credit cards where those fees will be applicable. So we don't want to make the message known that we're charging fees on other forms of payment.
[1:07:59] there are no other bees on traditional forms of payment,
[1:08:03] which is cash, money orders, and checks.
[1:08:06] That is correct only that we don't receive cash,
[1:08:09] so it's all other forms of payments,
[1:08:11] but this should decide to use the credit card
[1:08:13] to you absorb the fees.
[1:08:17] Okay, we'll good, all right, thank you very much.
[1:08:20] Okay, what's next, we made a adjustment in the agenda.
[1:08:23] So we're going to have some conversations here
[1:08:25] and reference sort of soccer field resolution,
[1:08:27] right and that's going to be out of number seven. And so the individual, they're going to come
[1:08:35] to see like you're in a sling here. You're playing soccer so hard, you're fed on them, broken.
[1:08:41] Somebody got a real card.
[1:08:43] Yeah, I don't care. Probably tend to now, but anyway.
[1:08:47] Yeah, good to see you, Mariles. The gentleman's good to be back. I think it was April when I was here last.
[1:08:51] We'll catch the scust, you know.
[1:08:53] I'll put a record, please, could you put your name or because I'm sorry, it's my name is Eric Morrison.
[1:08:57] I'm the president of Southern Crescent Soccer Foundation.
[1:08:59] Good, thank you.
[1:09:01] I'm excited.
[1:09:01] We are here in April.
[1:09:03] I had a discussion about moving forward with how we would look at, you know, the soccer fields
[1:09:06] come in part of the new park at Eagles Landing.
[1:09:11] We've, we've progressed pretty good.
[1:09:12] We've had quite a bit of work done.
[1:09:14] We did have a grand opening for our facility in McDonough.
[1:09:17] and Emma Stroudgjando was there at 99 to put on one heck of a show.
[1:09:21] It was really good.
[1:09:23] They said it was the largest grand opening they've ever had.
[1:09:26] So there's definitely a thirst for soccer in this county.
[1:09:30] And the idea of putting two fields of stock rage makes a lot of sense.
[1:09:34] There's only on the whole north end of the county.
[1:09:36] There's two fields in Evelinwood and there's nothing else here.
[1:09:39] So that we can be part of this and to help the city grow
[1:09:43] and to help that provide the community.
[1:09:45] wonderful access is great. So where we progress so far as we know we're going to have a better
[1:09:52] feel for the park. You guys are working the background and working on how the park itself
[1:09:58] is going to go. As far as building the fields, I sent forward the initial proposal we have from a
[1:10:06] contractor. I will say that I think we need to bid this out further but that initial proposal is
[1:10:10] enough for me to provide our grant request.
[1:10:13] I do think we should get some additional vendors to provide proposals because we do have time.
[1:10:19] That vendor is enough for me to provide a grant request and that's what we want to get done
[1:10:24] now.
[1:10:24] I want to get that grant in before Christmas.
[1:10:28] So to do that right now the proposal would be about $600,000.
[1:10:32] We'll be able to come up with 200 of that.
[1:10:36] So whatever the doubt is left and it may come in at less than six, you know, so we need
[1:10:40] We get additional contractors looking at it.
[1:10:44] But I think it could come in less than six, but whatever the difference is, we're going
[1:10:48] to get out from the city or if the city has donors, they'd like to help contribute to build
[1:10:54] the rest of it.
[1:10:56] But it's still going to be a wonderful facility, it's going to be full.
[1:11:00] I mean, this will be full of kids.
[1:11:01] It's going to, all the restaurants are going to be full.
[1:11:04] We have tournaments, the hotels are going to be full, we're going to be able to bring teams
[1:11:08] in, you know, every time we talked about World Cup 2026,
[1:11:11] they decided to be drawing on TV.
[1:11:13] Well, women's World Cup 2031, which are you being the U.S.
[1:11:17] as bigger than the men's, is 2031 right here in Atlanta.
[1:11:22] So we were ready to position ourselves ahead as a city
[1:11:25] that has some facilities that we can get those teams
[1:11:28] to come to and train at.
[1:11:29] And I think with the proposal we have, we're going to be there.
[1:11:33] So what are you having for me?
[1:11:35] Questions, Council?
[1:11:39] Yes, sir.
[1:11:39] Go ahead, please.
[1:11:40] Not so much of a question, but I do want to add
[1:11:43] to what Mr. Erica stated with this being primarily
[1:11:47] in District 3 that this is also my
[1:11:49] opportunity for the city to stop bridge to be a part of
[1:11:53] something great in a movement with
[1:11:55] soccer fields and to create the green space and to create
[1:11:59] the live work play environment that we all talk about
[1:12:01] so much.
[1:12:03] And also to foster progress throughout young people,
[1:12:05] you so that they can have a place to play and a place to belong in a place to be a part of.
[1:12:11] And so I'm excited about the partnership and excited about what we're on the ground, ground
[1:12:17] breaking precipice of doing. If we're able to support this event that we have the World Cup
[1:12:24] coming right here and I can just find out tonight that the Women's World Cup is coming a few
[1:12:29] years, five years after that. And that if we can be one of the players in this, this would definitely
[1:12:35] put stock bridge in a strategic place that we could help not only grow the sport but grow
[1:12:40] our local economy as well as provide our neighborhoods and our communities and our parents
[1:12:44] with something that their kids can be a part of and be proud of. And so I stand I stand in support
[1:12:50] of it specifically in District 3 that we can have this great part, this great green space and this
[1:12:57] athletic facility. And so I'm definitely a favorite. Okay. You know the comments.
[1:13:05] Just me.
[1:13:09] Okay, so I do support this sacrificial project. However, the City Council
[1:13:14] approved a Parks Master Plan. I think it's a great idea considering the World Cup
[1:13:20] is coming to Atlanta. My only concern is we made a financial commitment and entered into a
[1:13:27] to make upgrades to our current and existing parks, including the new park.
[1:13:33] I do want to ask a couple of questions of Mr. Aaron, because he presented the park's master plan to us.
[1:13:42] Mr. Aaron, have a couple of questions for you, please, sir.
[1:13:50] I support the new park, but because there's been a mismanagement of $32.9 million
[1:13:58] in 2024, that is set a spec on completing
[1:14:02] various capital improvement projects.
[1:14:05] The over spending of the amphitheater operations in free city events
[1:14:08] in 2022, 2023, 2024, and 2025,
[1:14:14] are examples of misguided priorities
[1:14:17] and how our capital projects are delayed
[1:14:20] due to waste of spending.
[1:14:23] The Parks Master Plan has been delayed,
[1:14:25] Just as the rollout of the master trail plan, Mr. Aaron, I believe the execution of the park's master plan as was approved is outlined in phases and was approved during the council retreat in March of this year is that correct?
[1:14:42] What a park master plan was approved prior to that, but it was discussed in the retreat.
[1:14:47] Okay. The park master plan doesn't also include the new park for the Eagle's Landing area.
[1:14:56] Yes ma'am, that was included. They were asked to do some designs.
[1:15:00] Include some projects for the new part in eagles landing.
[1:15:04] Okay, and we paid a consultant for those design concepts.
[1:15:10] On TSW, that is a master plan.
[1:15:13] Okay, what's the status of the rollout of the parts master plan to include the current and existing parts?
[1:15:21] Because I have two parts in my district that needs to be addressed.
[1:15:27] So, they're currently finalizing there was the council agreed to close the transfer station.
[1:15:35] And so, we're going to add a new entrance to Memorial Park, an additional parking.
[1:15:39] So, the transfer station closes and it's scheduled to close in May of 2020-6.
[1:15:46] And so, they're currently surveying that property.
[1:15:48] So, once it closed, then we'll start a project where we'll be at out part of it was being
[1:15:57] phase where we're going to do new restaurants at Clark Park along with new pavilions.
[1:16:01] We're going to do new restaurants at Gardner, Memorial Park, and also redo the entrance
[1:16:07] to Memorial Park, and we're also looking at Restaurant at the Trailhead at Rees Creek Trail
[1:16:13] as part of phase one. And then phase two, we were doing a, it was a green space, I think, at the new
[1:16:21] Eagles landing, because that was one of the things that were mentioned during the Shores, that they had,
[1:16:27] that the residents wanted to see green space in just open areas where people can congregate and play in things of that sort.
[1:16:34] So there's a whole schedule of items that's included in the master plan projects that have been identified
[1:16:41] that would enhance all of the parts.
[1:16:44] From pickle balls to open spaces
[1:16:48] to tennis courts and things with that nature.
[1:16:52] Thank you, sir.
[1:16:54] So I know that with this new parts master plan,
[1:17:00] it covers all of our parks, including this new park.
[1:17:04] What I am concerned about is our existing parks
[1:17:08] and the improvements that are needed to those.
[1:17:13] We are very much aware that the existing parks
[1:17:17] have been waiting for several years
[1:17:20] for the upgrades or improvements to them.
[1:17:24] Picture this at Gardner Park, the swing that people
[1:17:29] swing on, I believe it's standing or it's being held up
[1:17:34] by PVC pipes.
[1:17:37] So we need improvements at the existing parks.
[1:17:40] There are two parks in my district,
[1:17:43] gardener park and Clark Park.
[1:17:46] What I don't want is for us to neglect our current parks
[1:17:50] and then just get right over and focus on a new park.
[1:17:54] I support all of them, which is why I approved
[1:17:57] the parks master plan with the timeline that you just mentioned.
[1:18:02] I have concerns about what's driving this when we already have two parks that we know need improvements and upgrades.
[1:18:13] Let's stick with the schedule as has been approved by the council and allow Mr. Aaron to execute the plan.
[1:18:25] That's all. Thank you.
[1:18:26] I'm going to say this, okay, see, when you have vision and you understand the direction that we're going in 2021 we were discussing the plan for parks in the city long before the parks master plan the city manager made a recommendation that we should put $2 million aside for park improvements in the future to take care of the items that were just described to you.
[1:18:57] certainly those items are very important. I hate to see this described as either
[1:19:03] or scenario because it's not because what really happened is we were going to
[1:19:08] put $2 million in the splash to cover parking improvements because there wasn't
[1:19:14] a thought at that time that they were going to be a new part. So I spoke up
[1:19:19] because I saw the vision coming and I said let's make that number $4 million. So
[1:19:24] We would have $2 million for a new park in the Eagles landing area of the city to South
[1:19:30] side of the city.
[1:19:32] So the number was increased from the initial recommendation of $2 million to $4 million to
[1:19:39] cover the new park that we're coming forward or improvements that we needed.
[1:19:44] That was the discussion that we had.
[1:19:46] So understanding that is the understand how we got here.
[1:19:50] But then it helped to be an either worse scenario.
[1:19:52] I certainly suspect and I certainly support that all the improvements that will be made.
[1:19:58] I set them in Councilman Thomas and I had many discussions about moving the transfer station
[1:20:04] and having that new entrance established.
[1:20:08] I was the one that made the motion for the parks master plan.
[1:20:12] We were on a Zoom call during the pandemic with T.S.W. and we were talking about how to move forward with this.
[1:20:19] So what we did was we decided to do a park's master plan, but understand this and Mr. Morrison will tell you this as well.
[1:20:28] $200,000 is on the table right now, right Mr. Morrison? Let him back, come back to the right dish.
[1:20:34] $200,000 is on the table right now, right? Yes, sir. $200,000 grants don't just pop up out of the blue, do they? No. They don't.
[1:20:44] This is one of the opportunities of a lifetime, and Mr. Morrison is very humble in his
[1:20:50] statements about what's going on, but you could go see the field and McDonald's today.
[1:20:54] The many pits that they did, and we spoke with the Atlanta United people there on the
[1:20:59] ground that day.
[1:21:00] They were very excited about having full-sized fields all over here.
[1:21:06] I spoke with a young lady named Lee Van Jakes, who used to play for the New Orleans Saints,
[1:21:14] he lives here in Eagles Land and Country Club. She's his daughter. She works for their
[1:21:18] Atlanta United. She's very excited about potentially seeing professional level soccer fields
[1:21:24] right here in our community. And as I have discussions that we've had with Mr. Morrison is that we
[1:21:31] fields here, but we don't have a professional level quality fields that need that that would be
[1:21:36] the requirement for a world cup or a women's world cup or a men's world cup that would
[1:21:41] we would be able to fulfill. So understanding where we are now, there's four million dollars
[1:21:47] that's being collected through Splos six over the next few years. And like I said initially
[1:21:53] there was a two million dollar budget. We increased the budget so that we could have this new part
[1:21:58] and some additional green spaces in the city to acquire others by $2 million.
[1:22:03] We're asking for $400,000 in this iteration right here.
[1:22:08] Without that grant, this would be a $600,000 project and $200,000 in additional dollars.
[1:22:15] We'll come out in the city coffers.
[1:22:17] But by approving this and making this a priority,
[1:22:21] talk about the schedule and let's say we did approve this.
[1:22:25] What would the schedule look like, Mr. Morris?
[1:22:27] I mean, the hope is we would break ground in spring.
[1:22:32] Once we break gratitude, a month or two and it's done.
[1:22:37] Right. So in essence, we basically would have a shovel ready project ready to go and the fields could actually open by the summer time of all went well.
[1:22:48] If we take advantage of this opportunity right now with $200,000, which is, you know, it's a third of the project costs would be covered by the Atlanta United.
[1:22:58] And then when they're allowing the United partners with you and they're sitting at the table,
[1:23:02] they don't just sit there.
[1:23:03] They work with you and they'll help you actually promote the facility and to the rest of the community.
[1:23:10] Because they're actively talking about their involvement in youth soccer in the area and what that we're bringing to us.
[1:23:17] So we work with the Atlanta United in some of our youth programs.
[1:23:21] They provide some free clinics for us.
[1:23:24] Primarily with their providers funding.
[1:23:26] They really helped us with the mini-pitch.
[1:23:30] We're currently in negotiation with them.
[1:23:32] We also run a free after-schools program.
[1:23:35] We're currently in nine schools.
[1:23:36] We want to be in 29 by the fall.
[1:23:38] We're working with the schools.
[1:23:42] And within that, we're working with the land and for additional funding for that, because
[1:23:44] nothing, although it's free to the kids, it's not free to administer, as everyone here
[1:23:48] knows.
[1:23:49] Everything calls money.
[1:23:52] So we're trying to find ways to continue to fund that, to continue to grow, to provide
[1:23:55] children in the community, you know, opportunities.
[1:24:00] You know, but at
[1:24:00] late night, they give us a big platform. You know, anybody, anybody
[1:24:05] saw what happened at McDonald's, I mean, that blew up. I mean, that
[1:24:10] was unbelievable. It just went viral on social media. It was, it was
[1:24:14] fantastic. And that's really what they bring. They bring a lot of, they
[1:24:18] bring a lot of attention to the community. And, and that's necessary,
[1:24:22] because you need that attention, where to get the funding you need, and
[1:24:24] to get. Your community excited and then they help us with some of the program. They said they
[1:24:29] helped with some of the free clinics and things such as that but they've been wonderful to
[1:24:34] work with.
[1:24:37] Thank you. Now Mr. Emerson, certainly you've been through numerous projects as I
[1:24:44] city leader right here. I don't think this is an either or scenario. I think that you can carry
[1:24:50] the way of fixing the existing parts, because we have a new position coming aboard.
[1:24:58] There will manage these projects that will be able to manage the existing parts
[1:25:01] improvement at the same time that we do this new project bringing it in. Is that correct?
[1:25:08] Yes, sir. The biggest thing for us is with that four million that you talked about, it
[1:25:13] comes in over the next six years. So if we do move forward with this project, we have to
[1:25:18] seriously about Bonday to get these projects underway and ask council member Barbara said as well
[1:25:24] going with the park improvement plan because we want to make sure that we stay on target with that.
[1:25:30] But I believe that with the funding that we do have if we bond we will be able to accomplish all that
[1:25:36] we decide. So even if we did what the payback basically would be out of the splash program.
[1:25:42] So basically would be advancing the funding that we already know is coming.
[1:25:46] the same thing that we did with the empathy and the same thing that we've done with numerous
[1:25:52] city projects that we move forward, we paid Walt Stevens roll, we paid Eagles Landon
[1:25:57] and several others that we moved along when we started the police department, we took
[1:26:02] out a bond for that.
[1:26:04] But the idea is we didn't take out a bond to be paid out of the general fund, we took out
[1:26:09] a bond that would be paid for out of the, out of the splash dollars that we knew were coming.
[1:26:16] But at this point right now, certainly, what the issue is right now, there's no money needed today, correct Mr. Morrison, the money is needed when the project moves forward, the commitment is needed today where we would come back to the microphone.
[1:26:31] You don't need to $400,000.
[1:26:33] That's correct, we need a commitment for it.
[1:26:35] You need a commitment for the forward.
[1:26:37] Most of the grant is approved and we're approved to begin construction, then of course we'll need to fund in the perfect construction.
[1:26:43] Right. So today we don't need that today. We need that maybe March April when that just when the fund when the grant has approved
[1:26:50] and certainly the Atlanta United want to know that we're serious because they want to commit me from us that we're going to build these fields
[1:26:57] in partnership with them and we certainly can do that. Please understand that's
[1:27:02] six goals and Mr. Emerson, I want you to, as we talk about this too, right?
[1:27:07] Slot six is being collected at about $700,000 a month. Coming in every single month in
[1:27:13] that one penny that you pay 1% sales tax on every dollar you pay, you pay a 1% sales tax that
[1:27:20] goes into the Slot six program. So what happens is that money comes in a little bit at a
[1:27:26] $700,000 a month, but what are we just going through now? Black Friday, November, we're going through
[1:27:34] December. So in November and December, the allotments for those particular funds that could be a million
[1:27:39] dollars with the sales that we're seeing because it's not like it's even every single month, it's based
[1:27:45] on the sales and we know what happens with the sales in November and in December. So I think in essence,
[1:27:52] what we really happen is, every project is not going to be shown already at the same time.
[1:27:57] The transportation project, first, when we're starting this project, the transfer
[1:28:02] station is still going to be open.
[1:28:04] The transfer station is not going to close into what April you said, Mr. May, is not going
[1:28:10] to close to May.
[1:28:11] So the fields will be under construction by the time the transfer station closes, all
[1:28:16] of that process moves through, we get to the point where we're going to move forward with
[1:28:20] So sometimes you've got to make adjustments to the schedule depending upon the logistics on the ground and the logistics on the ground
[1:28:28] Tell us right now get the $200,000
[1:28:31] That's what it tells us to do that's available right now that we won't have to pay because if we do wait
[1:28:37] That 200,000 there's no guaranteed it at $200,000 is gonna be on the table because there's communities all over
[1:28:44] Metro Atlanta. This is a great process right Mr. Morris, and we're we're putting our hat in the table
[1:28:50] Right now, so that money's going to be given away because the grant closes at the end of the year, right?
[1:28:57] Right, so when the grant closes at the end of the year we can't say oh, we'll go back and get that
[1:29:02] $200,000 that was on the table.
[1:29:04] It won't be on the table because this cycle will be closed and with the economy and everything that we got going
[1:29:11] Do we want to take a chance on another $200,000 being available six months from now or a year from now?
[1:29:17] I think we can juggle all of those balls at the same time when I think we could do this, and understanding that one of the things that we did here is we said we were going to, and the parks master plan that I made the motion for is that we're going to attempt to make sure that we provide these resources in all the community.
[1:29:36] When I set on this board in 2016, there was no park on the south side of the city.
[1:29:42] There's still no park on the south side of the city.
[1:29:45] And this is an opportunity for us to put in process apart as the parks,
[1:29:50] most of the Flint Outland is having a park facility within a mile or two of everybody in the city.
[1:29:57] Right now, the closest park for me is 15 minutes away.
[1:30:00] Which is Memorial Park. I got to get due traffic from Jelterco Road up here. That's how long it takes me to get there. So that's not within a mile.
[1:30:09] But this part will be very close to within a mile from where I live and the residents who live in district three different, district four and district five.
[1:30:17] But residents all over the city will be using the particular part. Sometimes you got to take the vision by the horn and move forward
[1:30:24] because this is a visionary opportunity of a lifetime
[1:30:27] that the city can seize upon to make it happen.
[1:30:31] Thank you.
[1:30:32] Sir, I would like to add though.
[1:30:34] If we do accept this opportunity tonight that I would like
[1:30:38] to understand what the 10-year agreement
[1:30:39] make this agreement and other things that may be associated
[1:30:43] with the build of this part.
[1:30:45] I eat, the stands, the building itself.
[1:30:50] So I mean, maybe he can share some light on that.
[1:30:52] So we understand what that total cost is.
[1:30:54] I want to make sure that we that relies on us the fuck this is a soccer field agreement right here
[1:31:00] This agreement is for the soccer field right now whether we build the rest of it and being out of that
[1:31:06] Is up to the city to make sure and that's why we have four million dollars in parking improvements
[1:31:10] And we would need to seek other partners in order to build the rest of the park out
[1:31:16] In phases but when you have 200 thousand dollars sitting on a table to you right now
[1:31:20] You got to take that 200 thousand dollars sitting on a table to you
[1:31:24] to be able to do what we got to do, because we know that we have $4 million dollars coming to us
[1:31:30] over the next five years in order to complete the project. And as you said,
[1:31:36] because, honestly, a lot of these projects could have been done already. You see that the money's
[1:31:43] been sitting there, they just didn't have the priority. The issue was, as you have created a new
[1:31:48] that will actually manage the project, is that correct?
[1:31:53] With that analyst on board to be able to manage the project,
[1:31:56] instead of sitting here waiting on project one to move forward,
[1:32:00] when there's nothing going on or nothing going on,
[1:32:03] we'll be able to work on multiple projects at the same time.
[1:32:07] Thank you.
[1:32:10] All right, could you any other comments?
[1:32:13] Go ahead, please.
[1:32:14] It's not that I don't support the new part, because I do.
[1:32:18] My concern is the mismanagement of $32.9 million in $20.24, and then again, the overspending
[1:32:27] of the operations of the amphitheater this year has set us back on capital improvement projects
[1:32:34] that we all support.
[1:32:37] I believe these plastics, distributions, those funds have already been allocated to other projects.
[1:32:45] So if we move this ahead of other capital projects,
[1:32:51] when we realize the other projects that we've already
[1:32:55] parted us, I'm just concerned about just,
[1:33:01] it just seems like we're not really following a plan.
[1:33:06] This is really based on what individuals may want
[1:33:11] at a certain time.
[1:33:12] But we're not following the master plan that we paid for.
[1:33:18] And I believe the master parks plan,
[1:33:23] Mr. Aaron mentioned it.
[1:33:25] The council approved it.
[1:33:26] We paid more than $200,000 for that plan.
[1:33:31] So are we just paying for plans?
[1:33:34] And consultants just to say,
[1:33:36] we got a plan, but we're not going to execute the plan.
[1:33:40] Those are my concerns.
[1:33:41] I know that's plus six already has projects that those funds are allocated for.
[1:33:50] It just makes it complicated.
[1:33:52] Now we are reassigning those funds to this project.
[1:34:00] And I also want to know if the council so chooses to support this venture,
[1:34:11] When will the two parks in the district that I represent?
[1:34:16] When will those improvements be made?
[1:34:21] Those are questions I have.
[1:34:22] If you can answer those, Mr. Eppensen.
[1:34:24] I appreciate it.
[1:34:26] Yes, ma'am.
[1:34:27] And as looking at the plan and as part of the agenda of the budget,
[1:34:31] they actually have a schedule.
[1:34:33] How much money is allocated for this entire plan in regards to
[1:34:37] infrastructures and parts upgrades?
[1:34:40] what was happening is, I guess it was kind of going back and forth in between the years.
[1:34:44] So, and that's another reason that's Council Member Alice Anderson said,
[1:34:47] the importance of bringing in the management analysts, because we was trying to do a whole bunch of different things,
[1:34:51] and as I always say, if you're trying to do everything, you're getting nothing done,
[1:34:55] and I think that's kind of where we add. But with the master plan, with the right people in place,
[1:35:01] we are literally looking at the funds and seeing how much we have available. Do we have to buy
[1:35:05] to start our screen line of some of these projects.
[1:35:08] And right now, we wait for that money to trickle in, as you say,
[1:35:10] it comes in monthly and with most of these projects,
[1:35:14] if you're not phasing them out or have a plan,
[1:35:17] we just sit in on time and money and resources,
[1:35:20] instead of saying, hey, we anticipate in the next six months
[1:35:24] to get $1.2 million.
[1:35:26] That can release get us started with phase one.
[1:35:28] We can walk and chew bubblegum, and the problem is,
[1:35:31] we haven't been proactive in regards to this money trickling in monthly.
[1:35:35] But if we're trying to streamline some things, that's another reason why I say, hey, we have options to maybe bond to expedite a lot of the things that's been in a pipeline.
[1:35:44] So I'm just motivated at the fact that we do have people on the ground now that's paying attention to those projects to ensure these projects get off the ground.
[1:35:53] Because they are badly needed, we have the resources.
[1:35:55] It's not like we don't have the resources, so that's the first great part for my administration
[1:36:01] because we've seen things that people are saying over and over again, it's just time to put things
[1:36:06] of the action.
[1:36:08] So we are screen-line it a lot of these projects as we speak now and we anticipate 2026 to have
[1:36:13] this fight.
[1:36:15] If I may be off for a minute please, again, I support the new part.
[1:36:22] It would be different and very easy for us, for me, to support this and approve this tonight.
[1:36:29] If we had the funds in our hands right now, and not relying on the distributions from
[1:36:37] plus to pay for it.
[1:36:39] But because we don't have the funds in hand right now, that's why I mentioned the 32.9 million
[1:36:46] dollars that was mismanaged, and again the 4.4 million dollars that was spent on the
[1:36:52] with theater in excess of what was budgeted. All of those overspending year after year after
[1:37:00] year, if those funds were available, absolutely, I would be supporting this right now, but
[1:37:08] because we don't, and we're relying on squash distributions every month that's coming in.
[1:37:15] I don't want us to function that way anymore. I don't want to. I just don't, I can't support
[1:37:21] And if we had the funds right now to pay for this, I was supported, but we were waiting
[1:37:28] for funds to do it.
[1:37:30] Right. And I can't support it. And those funds have already been allocated to other projects. So well, what projects is now going to be underfunded because we're moving funds that we anticipate to receive from Splice to this?
[1:37:44] Well, I would like to add in this. This also is on the agenda later on tonight. We're talking about the tab. We're talking about SSD. We got flaws. We got a lot of different other resources coming in. So I believe we can we can get a lot of this done. I just want to make sure that we've been intentional and mapping out a plan.
[1:37:59] a solid plan and report back to you all what that plan looks like as we start mapping this
[1:38:04] out.
[1:38:06] So with the management analyst on board now we are laying out that thing and actually coming
[1:38:10] up with a plan based off the master plan for the parks and what that looks like in funding.
[1:38:17] And these are priorities as you all stated going in in 2026 so we are really really focus
[1:38:21] on getting these things done and also leverage in ourselves for additional funding and come in
[1:38:27] that we have positioned ourselves to start getting a lot of this stuff done because,
[1:38:30] oh, by the way, that's the whole point for establishing the SSD and a lot of these other
[1:38:34] tasks that we have in the pipeline to also help with these projects and things that we have
[1:38:40] been talking about for quite some time now.
[1:38:45] If you're done, Ms. Barber,
[1:38:50] if so, Mr. Barber.
[1:38:51] Yes, sir. I don't support bonding for any of this. What I do support is as being more
[1:38:58] responsible and tightening the bills of our spending. That's what I support, not bonding,
[1:39:06] because these projects, we just need to be more responsible. That's all.
[1:39:11] This is very great, sir, please.
[1:39:13] Yeah, Mr. Ed, Mr. Ed, also to Mr. Malazzi, just wanted to echo some of the things that Mr. Barbara said,
[1:39:19] but also to try to come up with some balance. I know her concerns are the existing plan
[1:39:26] And what are we going to do strategically to make sure that that stuff stays on schedule and that we're doing the repairs and things that that are already in place.
[1:39:34] And so my question to you guys to you both is with the opportunity that's presented with us, which is funding that we normally would have to pay for ourselves.
[1:39:44] This is a unique opportunity for us to save the city some money
[1:39:49] But also can we also put something in place to rectify her concerns to make sure that we have
[1:39:57] the existing part plan in place to line out all of the things by a calendar by a set date
[1:40:04] or what we were doing first second third or fifth so that by the end of today
[1:40:10] we can have, I can eat it, eat it too for the sake of the discussion that we're saying.
[1:40:16] It's been stated it's not an either or but we do need to have a plan or what it is we're going
[1:40:20] to do. And so, Mr. Eric has already stated, we don't have to have a financial commitment to
[1:40:27] night. Our commitment doesn't have to come until April, 2026. However, in that interim,
[1:40:34] we need to do is have everything lined out so that this plan and this commitment also is
[1:40:42] included in the rest of the part plan and commitment so that we have a schedule for
[1:40:48] 2006 for what we know what we're doing with all of our parts and to not miss this
[1:40:54] opportunity as well I think that's kind of the next right and that's fair and so what
[1:41:00] proposed the night is we will have a full plan and a full schedule before we come back to
[1:41:06] to start solidifying this other stuff so right here. So we can't make that commitment and I can't
[1:41:10] commit that my team will bring back a plan, a solid plan to include funding and phases to address
[1:41:16] those things that you have concerns about. We definitely could do that, man. No problem.
[1:41:21] So before you go right now, if you talk about a commitment to time frame for that but also I
[1:41:25] tonight. We're looking at a grant to commit before the $2,000 thing it is, right? I
[1:41:32] mean $2,000, I believe it is, right? Then we want to make a commitment, even though it's
[1:41:36] not needed till several months from now, but the commitment tonight on that, along with a time
[1:41:41] line that you're going to present to us overall. Yeah, we go. All right, you can make a happy. So if we're
[1:41:47] yes, sir. Yeah, let me just say this real quick, and certainly to come into, like, so everybody understands
[1:41:53] The park master plan, which I made the motion for, is 110 million dollar plan.
[1:42:00] There's never, there's never any thought that everything was going to be done at the same time in 110 million dollar plan.
[1:42:07] It plotted out what we were going to do for the next 20 years.
[1:42:13] That's what it is.
[1:42:14] It's a document.
[1:42:16] It's not an execution plan, and that's what Mr.
[1:42:19] the city manager is going to have to come up with went to execute what.
[1:42:24] But the plan is $110 million that covers the entire city and a green space
[1:42:30] parks plan for the next 20 years. It is not a 20, 20, 26 plan.
[1:42:36] So there's not an indication on what went is going to be what is going to be done when,
[1:42:42] but is your job to test the new and the new analysts to come up with the plan to prioritize which
[1:42:48] projects will move first and with projects are ready to go first. And certainly none of us
[1:42:53] appear want to sit here and say that we're not going to do the existing parts. So your job
[1:42:58] will be charged when we move forward with this tonight that you will come back to us with the plan
[1:43:03] that will be inclusive of this the soccer fields and an execution of the existing parts at the same
[1:43:10] time. Now, part of that would be to include the part of that would be to include the special
[1:43:18] service district. The special service district acts to help to be able to bring together funding
[1:43:24] for additional funding to support infrastructure projects. It says one of the things that you can use
[1:43:30] for the special service talk about that a little bit. Yes, as we talked about it in the budget retreat
[1:43:37] and that's another reason why we was trying to get the map approved because we added a
[1:43:43] stock bridge lakes or something like that. I have the meeting minutes from the budget retreat
[1:43:48] because that was the only issue with the map at the time was kind of small and then it was
[1:43:52] some areas that was missing and as Mr. Wall and Mr. Ernst said, hey listen, we need to update the map
[1:43:57] and then we need to also adopt the map based off some recommendations that we had got from the budget
[1:44:02] retreat, which we did. We were trying to get that map approved there, the budget retreat
[1:44:07] that did not happen. But we were trying to get this map approved before December 31st.
[1:44:12] And then thereafter, we would definitely have to set a military for that.
[1:44:16] Based off the amount of the projects amounts that we are anticipated. So once again, we have to do this
[1:44:23] planning anyway, because once we identify how much these projects going to cause, dealing with the
[1:44:28] as the and that's including parks, maintenance and things of that nature, then we have to
[1:44:34] understand what that military would look like for that particular plan and come back here to
[1:44:37] get permission to install that. We already got all the documentations and plans. We already got
[1:44:42] everything from the county in place. They just waiting on us to move the ball forward in regards to
[1:44:47] establishing a map and also setting the military for the SSD and going from there. Yes sir.
[1:44:53] We've had plenty of discussion tonight in order to make this happen. Certainly this is the
[1:44:58] opportunity of a lifetime.
[1:45:00] You have committed that you were bringing the plan back to us, that you implement these fields, along with the improvements in the part, along with working with your analysts, that's your commitment to us tonight, correct?
[1:45:13] Yes, sir.
[1:45:14] I want to make a motion to move forward with the plan has been acclimated in the partnership with the Southern Crescent Soccer Organization to bring two professional quality soccer fields to the city of Stockbridge.
[1:45:28] that's my motion.
[1:45:29] $3,200,000.
[1:45:31] The total little bit of the grant is $200,000.
[1:45:34] Our commitment is $400,000.
[1:45:37] The difference, the difference, and what it is.
[1:45:39] The difference might be less than that because as Mr. Morrison has indicated, what's
[1:45:44] going to happen is he's put in the gap, he's got a bid on the document to go into the grant.
[1:45:50] But what's going to happen is it'll be bid out when it's time to actually do the construction
[1:45:55] so that we get the best deal.
[1:45:57] Okay, so, restate your motion and make sure we got it.
[1:46:01] Okay, I'm going to let the district representative make the motion because it's his district.
[1:46:09] I don't want to overstep my value.
[1:46:11] Let me let Mr. Barclay.
[1:46:13] Thank you.
[1:46:15] So, I would like to make a motion, again, based that's what's been stated from Mr. Morrison as well,
[1:46:21] to show our good faith and support of the Greenspace family part,
[1:46:25] area with the two soccer fields with their commitment of the grant funding of 200,000 and the
[1:46:31] city's commitment of the difference, not to exceed $400,000 with no financial commitment today,
[1:46:39] only to be done by the team and the city managers directive to come up with that plan in the near
[1:46:46] future. I won't put a time line on it. Well, second, second. Okay, there we go, Mr.
[1:46:58] I was hoping in the motion you would make a reference to the existing parks.
[1:47:09] And to add the discussion and the follow up directive of the staff to put together a plan of action and timeline for the existing parks and to see what that plan is.
[1:47:22] I thought we did that, but anyway, we did, okay.
[1:47:26] Good, Mr. Asian, you're some,
[1:47:27] that was a very good question.
[1:47:29] Once again, revise, this, this, Vanessa, I'm sorry.
[1:47:35] Howling, you got all that?
[1:47:36] So, okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[1:47:39] you got all that, all right, all fair, please indicate.
[1:47:42] Okay, you know what I'm saying, okay, thank you very much.
[1:47:45] All right, fantastic, thank you, sir.
[1:47:47] Have your holidays too, by the way, as well.
[1:47:48] So what I have, cause what I have next,
[1:47:50] So I have here a second session next, is this the case we're going to second session now?
[1:47:56] Okay, so I got a motion to, I need a motion, well, the most going to second session for legal personnel.
[1:48:01] Hold on, Mayor.
[1:48:03] I want to revisit the special districts.
[1:48:06] We didn't have a vote on it because we did not have, we did not, I rescinded it my motion.
[1:48:12] So let's revisit that and let's go ahead.
[1:48:14] because we need that funding in order to provide funding for the city and additional projects.
[1:48:21] And this relates to businesses. It's not residential at all. It's only businesses.
[1:48:27] And for clarification, this is the special district that Mr. Anderson just spoke of.
[1:48:33] Okay. So you're talking about there was item number four council consideration
[1:48:36] to prove to revise copy the SSD special services district map that Mr. Anderson just talked about.
[1:48:43] That should be referred to, yes.
[1:48:44] Mayor of court.
[1:48:46] Stand by, one second.
[1:48:47] So, Mayor for, yes, stand by, one second, please.
[1:48:49] Okay, that should be coming back for this case.
[1:48:51] All right, if we need the questions on that.
[1:48:53] Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor, I'm going, please.
[1:48:55] Go ahead.
[1:48:56] Ms. Barber.
[1:48:58] We did vote on this.
[1:49:00] We voted.
[1:49:02] Sir, we have a public hearing item.
[1:49:04] What you do?
[1:49:06] That's in my district.
[1:49:08] Well, we're not in the public hearing district.
[1:49:09] We're going to get the public hearing.
[1:49:10] Wait, Mayor for, there are members
[1:49:13] of our community and homeowners who are here for the public hearing item regarding Valley Hill
[1:49:21] Road.
[1:49:23] They're sitting.
[1:49:24] We're good here.
[1:49:24] Oh, wait.
[1:49:25] I think it is unfair for us to now after this presentation that has come back a second
[1:49:33] time, then we will go into executive session.
[1:49:37] We are just delaying this public hearing and these homeowners are here for you.
[1:49:43] Please, let's consider that we have homeowners here.
[1:49:49] All right, fine.
[1:49:50] So otherwise, in reference, we're back to the SSD.
[1:49:54] All right.
[1:49:55] I do want to address the question.
[1:49:56] Well, answer that.
[1:49:57] We'll take care of this first.
[1:49:58] Okay? Well, get to your point.
[1:50:01] So on SSD.
[1:50:02] So the anything else you need to add on SSD here.
[1:50:04] No, no.
[1:50:05] All right.
[1:50:06] All right. So once you've got a red, red, that particular
[1:50:08] the most on-favorite of the SSD, the Social Services District,
[1:50:13] the revised map that he presented earlier.
[1:50:15] On-favorite, please indicate.
[1:50:16] I'm sorry, excuse me, is there a motion?
[1:50:18] I'm sorry, excuse me, is there a motion?
[1:50:19] So, Moon, so Moon, is there a second?
[1:50:22] Mr. Barbers of Mr. Barbers of Mr. Barbers of Second,
[1:50:25] that on-favorite, please, on-favorite, please indicate.
[1:50:27] All right, Ms. Barbers, you were new sustained?
[1:50:30] I will appellons.
[1:50:31] Again, okay, three, three, one, most in pass.
[1:50:34] Three, one, the most in pass.
[1:50:35] Now, what's on the agenda next
[1:50:37] was exactly the session.
[1:50:39] Mr. Emerson, back, please.
[1:50:41] It was on here on exactly the session.
[1:50:43] I wouldn't sure why exactly the session was moved up
[1:50:44] to this particular point.
[1:50:46] I think that was a mistake, sir.
[1:50:47] That was from the last time we just in catch it.
[1:50:49] So I mean, we find to move it down.
[1:50:51] Or, I mean, that's complete up to you.
[1:50:53] Well, let me stand by, please.
[1:50:55] So the attorneys, what was the reason here?
[1:50:59] Come on, come on, Mike, please.
[1:51:09] We didn't necessarily have the Renel Hay
[1:51:11] matter that was in litigation that we were going to be discussing.
[1:51:14] that matter has been rescinded as of this morning, right?
[1:51:17] And then we had the second litigation matter that we were originally having folks
[1:51:22] come in to speak to us that we were trying to get out of here.
[1:51:26] That one has been rescinded and then the other one we.
[1:51:31] So if you would like to please do the public hearing and then on the valley hill
[1:51:35] matter and then exactly a session that would be, thank you.
[1:51:40] All right, well, let's see here.
[1:51:48] Okay, so eight nine.
[1:51:51] Alrighty, so the second session is going to go.
[1:51:58] Should have to evaluate this.
[1:52:01] Okay,
[1:52:05] that is number eight.
[1:52:08] That's number eight.
[1:52:09] Number nine.
[1:52:14] Well, that's what I'm looking at.
[1:52:16] Number nine is nine and so, and then we go over it.
[1:52:22] Okay, so I have to be after.
[1:52:23] We're going to do that after you.
[1:52:25] So I'm looking.
[1:52:25] I'm looking to put the exactly session after.
[1:52:29] Number nine.
[1:52:30] And then if that's the case, because I believe the attorneys need to have someone here for us another issue. So we'll go to the next session after number nine, which will be the valet hill issue. Now, what's going to have to happen? Now, you realize that once we do that, we've got to close out the public hearing, then I got to open it back up again, because all the things are on here for a public hearing. You realize that. So we have to open a public hearing twice. If there, well, there's a several different items here for public hearing.
[1:52:58] You got that number eight, nine, 13, 14, 15,
[1:53:07] 16 all the way down the 19, all public
[1:53:11] here in items.
[1:53:13] Mayor, I think that we should move these a concession to the
[1:53:17] analyte we usually do, and then do our public hearings according to the schedule
[1:53:22] that we normally do.
[1:53:23] We could do that.
[1:53:24] Just move it like we normally go and then go ahead and move and do our
[1:53:29] public hearing. All right, so that's if that's the case in the
[1:53:33] executive session, they'll come after 27.
[1:53:40] All
[1:53:42] right,
[1:53:53] all right, so we're
[1:53:54] going to public hearing.
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[1:55:49] The first item of the special public hearing would be special use permit.
[1:55:54] Number eight, minor ways, special use permit case SP2025104 Council District 4.
[1:56:01] Consideration of a request to a special use permit for a portion of property on 4498 North Henry Boulevard
[1:56:09] to allow for development and operation of the quick serve restaurant and drive through window and or lanes.
[1:56:16] Property owners, City of Starbriz, applicant Royale, THLLC, agent Battle Law, PC, proposed business Tim Wharton's a coffee restaurant.
[1:56:25] It's only just at C2 general commercial.
[1:56:28] The province locate a landlot, a 61 of District 12 within the city's stop bridge city limits.
[1:56:33] And it contains 1.32 acres, the applicant tends to develop only 0.8 acre portion of property.
[1:56:40] Ms. Anderson, please.
[1:56:42] Good evening, Mayor.
[1:56:43] Council.
[1:56:43] This is a project that has been in the works for well over a year.
[1:56:47] One of the original impediments for this project was that the downtown villager overlay district
[1:56:52] prohibited draft through restaurants staff came before council about a year ago and we presented
[1:56:58] an ordinance that council adopted to allow a draft through restaurants with approval of
[1:57:03] the S special use permit from city council. On the screen we have an aerial view of the site
[1:57:12] and it's located in downtown village overlay district along the major corridor to the west
[1:57:17] is the bridge, village shopping plows, and to the south, or miss one, or chicken and biscuits.
[1:57:22] And the reserve, the flow of site plans are on the screen now.
[1:57:32] For pedestrian and vehicle movement, I'll separate 80A ramps, and south walk in the eastern leading to the right away.
[1:57:40] Access from North Henry Boulevard, and the planning includes a monument sign,
[1:57:45] Front Park and the screen dumps there were overall the site to meet the downtown buildings overlays standards for layout and connectivity
[1:57:53] Here's another
[1:57:55] view of the map
[1:57:57] of the property on the city of Stockbridge map
[1:58:02] Here is proof that the signs were posted on November the 5th and November the 25th and November the 25th with the legal ads
[1:58:11] Here's the city of Stockbridge zoning out there as you can see by the star and the pinkish color that it's compatible with the surrounding zoning
[1:58:21] There's a city of Stagrad, a future land use map indicated by the property, it's indicated
[1:58:27] by the star and you can see it's surrounded by the lavender, which means it's compatible
[1:58:30] with the surrounding land use.
[1:58:34] So basically, I'm not going to go through our list and just going to sum it up, the applicant is requesting
[1:58:39] a special use permit from City Council to develop a Tim Horton's restaurant.
[1:58:46] The applicant can receive a approval from the Planning Commission on December 2nd
[1:58:50] staff recommends approval of this project.
[1:58:55] Okay, listen, this is battle group.
[1:58:56] I don't see Michelle, okay, there we go.
[1:59:00] All right, thank you, this year.
[1:59:01] Okay, yep, yeah, no questions, what's the question?
[1:59:04] All right, sir, if you want to represent your
[1:59:07] the turning peer representing the client.
[1:59:14] Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council members.
[1:59:16] My name is Josh Mahoney.
[1:59:17] I'm an attorney at Battle all PC, 36562.
[1:59:19] Have a shame at North Lake in Tucker, Georgia.
[1:59:21] I'm here this evening on behalf of the applicant
[1:59:23] to discuss this. But what's really an economic development opportunity for the city of stock bridge
[1:59:29] is coming to you in the form of a special use permit this evening. A special use permit will allow
[1:59:34] for a Tim Horton's. Tim Horton's coffee shop here at 4498 North Henry's just a little bit down
[1:59:41] the road here. And what I'd like to focus on this evening is really the kind of value that this
[1:59:49] bring to the city. As you all know, this property is currently owned by the city of Stockbridge
[1:59:55] and from my client to move forward with this development would have to purchase the property or
[2:00:00] This is Lisa from the city. So we're talking about some immediate funds for the city, either in the
[2:00:05] person's sale or at least however you're going about it. As well as a new, a new business in the city of
[2:00:14] stockbridge contributing to its taxes, as well as offering up a couple new jobs. And doing this with a property that
[2:00:25] that vacant for almost 20 years. We've got existing curb cuts here so it's ready to be used
[2:00:31] and it's just been sitting since about 2006 when I don't know the, there was another business
[2:00:37] there that was demolished around that time but it's just been waiting. So now we're looking to
[2:00:42] reactivate that site and get it up and running and contributing to this city's economy.
[2:00:52] The great, the great part about this plan is that you can do this, you're going to accomplish this
[2:00:55] activation in a way that advances the city's vision in its comprehensive plan.
[2:01:02] That today told me or excuse me.
[2:01:07] He laid out that this is in conformity with the city's plan.
[2:01:14] We're bringing a neighborhood scale business toward advancing that plan,
[2:01:18] bringing us a little bit closer, even as just one step, a little bit closer
[2:01:21] to reaching the city's vision there.
[2:01:25] We've got C2 zoning on the ground already where full compliance and full conformity with that.
[2:01:30] The only thing we need the special use permit for is the drive-through portion of this business.
[2:01:36] Which is great.
[2:01:36] There are other drive-through businesses in the area already, just south of the property.
[2:01:42] You've got Mrs. Winters and I think a sonic is still over there.
[2:01:45] So you've got, we're not introducing anything new here.
[2:01:48] This is all there already, so no surprises.
[2:01:53] another part that works for that is that there's no residential zoning immediately adjacent to the property that my client would be looking to develop.
[2:02:02] So we wouldn't be bothering anybody, we wouldn't be, you know, being a nuisance to any residents or anything like that.
[2:02:12] And then we've also got a pretty logical traffic flow coming off of North Henry Boulevard.
[2:02:17] You've got a, as you come in, you've got a one way traffic flow counterclockwise.
[2:02:21] That's going to bring you through the drive through and back out onto North Henry Boulevard or if you want to sit in chat with some friends for a while
[2:02:29] It'll
[2:02:29] Naturally dump you into a parking spot. We've got 24 parking spaces
[2:02:34] Per the code so you'll come in hit a spot back out and head right back out onto North Henry Boulevard
[2:02:41] real easy
[2:02:43] We've got enough space to stack cars if there's a line about eight cars
[2:02:49] So we don't anticipate any traffic congestion or anything like that coming from this from this business
[2:02:57] But with that, I will ask that you all vote this evening to approve this application
[2:03:02] We've got
[2:03:04] Recommendations are approval from the planning staff as well as a planning commission
[2:03:06] So I hope that you can vote accordingly
[2:03:10] Really quick. Yeah, I was just saying we might sit here. Yeah real quick
[2:03:14] So Mr. White-Honey, what we understand here is that Tim Horton's is a direct competitor for Starbucks and seven brew and those areas.
[2:03:22] We wonder why there had never been a Starbucks here, but we don't decide winners and losers here.
[2:03:27] We decide whether you have an opportunity with a similar project like yours.
[2:03:32] Certainly the building that you see there is very attractive.
[2:03:36] I think Mr. Anderson, we're going to get break, we're going to get some breaks.
[2:03:39] Sorry, we're going to get 100% we're going to, how am I, how am I brick, we get at least
[2:03:44] 75% the least 75% brick. So it's going to be a nicely designed and then again, guess
[2:03:50] what, what happens is right, seven brew comes and you come, then what, Starbucks looks
[2:03:55] over the corner and say, wait a minute, we need to be over there. That's how economic development
[2:03:59] takes place. So certainly, I want to make sure that whatever you do is that you're consistent
[2:04:04] what we got going on here and the quality is represented and that we move forward with the project
[2:04:12] and keeping what we have going on in the area. The monument side is very attractive and that
[2:04:20] enhances the area as well. Correct. Yes. Yes. The monument side will enhance the area. Yes.
[2:04:30] Yes, we recommend approval with conditions that I'd like to read the conditions into the record.
[2:04:35] Go right, please.
[2:04:49] We have several conditions.
[2:04:53] Staff recommends approval of a special use permit.
[2:04:55] Special use permit for construction and operation of a Tim Horton's coffee shop with
[2:04:59] Drive-through facility subject to the following condition.
[2:05:03] No more on site plan conforms.
[2:05:04] The development should be constructed in substantial performance with the site with the plan entitled
[2:05:09] entitle site plan for Tim Horton's coffee shop, 4498 North Henry Boulevard, prepare for roll
[2:05:16] THL's LLC by Falcon Design Consultant LLC data, June 30, 2025 and received by City staff
[2:05:24] from June 30, 2025, and image of deviation from the improved site plan including changes to the
[2:05:29] building footprint derived through layout or access configuration share required review and
[2:05:34] approval by the community development department and the look and the applicable city council.
[2:05:39] condition number two relates to building design and materials. All building
[2:05:43] for size shall be constructed of 100% we say 100% break, but we might want to
[2:05:49] what they got to ask them glass on the front. So we want to want to
[2:05:53] lower that consistent with session 2.5, 3, HX, I mean H2 of the downtown
[2:06:00] but it's overlay district, the use of ephos corrugated metal or other non-permitted
[2:06:04] to your SHLB prohibity.
[2:06:06] Accent features a main clue, black,
[2:06:09] analyze, aluminum, and trim,
[2:06:10] canopus, and decorative glass consistent
[2:06:12] with the approval of elevations.
[2:06:14] Three access and circles, deals with access and circulation.
[2:06:17] Vehicle access shall be provided via a single
[2:06:20] full access dryway connection to North Henry Boulevard.
[2:06:25] SR 138, US 23,
[2:06:28] subject to Georgia Department of Transportation approval,
[2:06:30] the internal dryways should be a minimum of 24 feet wide
[2:06:33] and then drive through Langell to accommodate a minimum stacking capacity of eight vehicles.
[2:06:38] Number four, the fourth condition relates to pedestrian connectivity. The applicant shall
[2:06:42] install a sidewalk connections and ADA, accessible ramps linking the building to building
[2:06:48] interest to the existing public sidewalk along North Henry Boulevard, consistent with the downtown
[2:06:53] village overlay district requirements. Condition number five has to do with landscaping and
[2:06:59] The development show provide all required permanent buffers, foundation planning and street
[2:07:04] trees and accordance with the UDC and the DTC and the downtown village overlay district.
[2:07:09] Our mechanical equipment transforms and refuse aero Shelby screen from the public view
[2:07:15] using materials consistent with the principle structure.
[2:07:18] The dumpster and closed the Shelby constructed a four brick matching the building.
[2:07:23] Condition number six involves lighting and science, all exterior lighting shall be
[2:07:27] Now we're facing and fully shield it to work.
[2:07:30] Here in glare or light spill over, signage shall comply with chapter 5, sign regulations of the UDC and the downtown village overlay district.
[2:07:38] And in money and signage shall include a brick-based matching the principal structure.
[2:07:44] That's it.
[2:07:45] Yeah, go ahead, sir. No, North and River Boulevard is in the highway corridor plane, right?
[2:07:50] down town village. The existing sidewalk is five feet. Our goal is to have a ten-foot multi-use
[2:08:01] pan rock query roll ends right there where the business starts at. And we're trying to get
[2:08:07] to the amphitheater. This connection is a brand new bill from the ground up. There need to be a ten-foot
[2:08:12] sidewalk in front of it. It needs to be a ten-foot sidewalk along their frontage, which is required by
[2:08:19] highway overlay corridor so that the next phase we're trying to get to the
[2:08:25] amphitheater in city hall we've got a project coming up I hope with the rest of
[2:08:29] it from North Least Street to East Atlanta Road being widened. Now the highway
[2:08:35] corridor plan requires a 10 foot multi-use path along North and Reboot of
[2:08:39] art and all major highways. This is a major highway so that needs to be
[2:08:49] I know, but it's the highlight corridor plan run the parkway corridor runs right through there
[2:08:55] Okay, there's a part of our plan to establish ten foot multi-use pass
[2:08:59] So that people can ride their bike and all of that you Josh Michelle knows
[2:09:04] She knows
[2:09:05] This is what we do. We want to make sure that there's a wide side walk there a new side
[2:09:09] Well, this is new construction. We don't want to old
[2:09:12] Second hand side walk out there. We want the ten foot path and then the next business to come along
[2:09:17] We want that because we want to be able to get all the way to East Atlanta road where the 10 foot pass are right now
[2:09:23] Well, let me ask you this is there can it be both or not going to have one
[2:09:27] Is it downtown part of the downtown piece or part of the highway?
[2:09:31] It was one or the other or is it both?
[2:09:33] It's in the downtown but this the the requirements are similar now for so
[2:09:39] The parkway corridor covers the whole city and every major highway
[2:09:45] So, based on the site plan, they may be able to expand the temp feed on the soil, but
[2:09:55] there will have to make how to reconfigure the site plan.
[2:09:59] Five feet is not going to make them much of difference.
[2:10:01] Come on now.
[2:10:02] They're right.
[2:10:02] The right way is right there, so we'll look into the councilmember.
[2:10:08] That'll be a condition.
[2:10:11] Michelle knows.
[2:10:12] Yeah, I'm trying to, I'm just trying to read the site plan right now to see if
[2:10:15] they've accounted for it already,
[2:10:23] off the work with my engineer to confirm that this can happen,
[2:10:27] but I think you're right, maybe able to make it work, but it might be a little tight.
[2:10:32] I need to do eight foot right there, where it's a little tight, and then do 10 the rest of it,
[2:10:36] but we want to why it's so well, right there. I need to be able to do what I serve,
[2:10:42] do check that out and have that in part of the recommendation.
[2:10:48] Let's do it. You're good with that.
[2:10:51] I was reading this and talking, can you repeat exactly what you said so I can make sure.
[2:10:56] I'll ask this out then, repeat it.
[2:10:58] Are you good with this, sir?
[2:10:59] The sidewalk, the tent, or the, you said, eight foot, and some, it's a minimum eight foot.
[2:11:04] A minimum eight foot, ten foot requirement, if it's the tight area there can be eight, but
[2:11:09] it needs to be ten for the majority of it.
[2:11:12] Yes.
[2:11:13] All right, thank you.
[2:11:14] So, Ms. Holliday, Ms. Holliday, you have that, ma'am?
[2:11:21] It's only additional one
[2:11:28] that the front is
[2:11:38] counting anything else is decorative
[2:11:41] street lights require right there we go we we've got to ask for it all the decorative
[2:11:45] street lights are the they require right there let's deal that's what I thought we
[2:11:50] updated the color to include decorative street lights I mean we can add that's a
[2:11:55] condition along the front is okay decorative street lights to make it look nice
[2:11:59] in the middle polls with the candles at the top.
[2:12:04] Is this along the front?
[2:12:06] It's just a little longer on the front.
[2:12:07] We've got down or facing lights.
[2:12:09] Right.
[2:12:09] In what are you talking about?
[2:12:11] For the street, you know?
[2:12:12] How many?
[2:12:13] Is there a regulation for changing that?
[2:12:17] There's not a specific regulation for changing to how many.
[2:12:22] But we'll figure that out.
[2:12:23] So it has maybe two or three.
[2:12:25] I mean, it has the match that holds it already out.
[2:12:27] About four of them maybe like every 20 feet or something or whatever or normal what's the normal distance
[2:12:33] You know to have that right what is it a supposed to consider normal
[2:12:39] Might because getting a mic pleaser. I mean only that beer in the way between 15 and 100 feet apart
[2:12:44] All depends on no we we're not talking about real street like we're talking about the poll
[2:12:49] We're talking about the little black ones with the little in the top like a long Eastern land
[2:12:54] Yeah, the decorative street like four would be cool
[2:13:07] I don't want to spend too much of my clients money without them knowing about this.
[2:13:11] So between the sidewalk and the lights, I would feel more comfortable if I can chat with
[2:13:16] them, make sure they're on board with that.
[2:13:18] If that means we have to defer it.
[2:13:20] I'm going to call Michelle on the phone and she's going to agree to it.
[2:13:23] Well, I got to call my client Michelle. Michelle's my boss, but she can't say yes or no to this.
[2:13:30] We're making a condition.
[2:13:33] I'm sorry.
[2:13:34] We're going to make it a condition.
[2:13:36] I understand.
[2:13:37] So it's part of the condition.
[2:13:38] Are you going to do it anyways, then then go ahead and put it on?
[2:13:42] And I don't think I don't think we have a problem.
[2:13:47] It's what we want for our downtown and for...
[2:13:49] So I understand.
[2:13:50] I understand.
[2:13:52] I understand.
[2:13:52] My client has to make sure that the numbers will work, though.
[2:13:55] And right now they have an account for the sidewalk and lights, so they would have to
[2:13:59] just adjust their numbers.
[2:14:00] I don't know what that looks like for them.
[2:14:02] I don't know how tight this deal is for them.
[2:14:07] So that's all I'm saying.
[2:14:08] But if you're going to do it anyways, regardless.
[2:14:11] Yeah.
[2:14:12] I'm out.
[2:14:13] I'll prove it with those conditions.
[2:14:15] I don't think it will.
[2:14:17] I mean, the sidewalks are non-negotiable for us in general, and that's for any development
[2:14:24] because we're trying to tie on a master plan and we have a plan in place.
[2:14:31] I understand.
[2:14:33] For connectivity.
[2:14:34] Miss Alden, you have all that?
[2:14:36] All right.
[2:14:37] Ryan, you good?
[2:14:38] Yeah.
[2:14:39] All right.
[2:14:39] What else?
[2:14:41] That's it.
[2:14:44] Okay.
[2:14:44] It's a public hearing, so I like to open this up.
[2:14:47] So anybody on my left, anybody that's against this particular project,
[2:14:51] comments against it on my very left, in a middle,
[2:14:55] in ways to get the project in the middle.
[2:14:58] I fall right anybody against this particular project.
[2:15:00] Anybody? This will come as for the project. I'm a far left. Anybody in the middle? For the project in the middle here? Anybody in the far right? You know, no one to guess, no one to, four, close that out. So council, and that note with all the recommendations, the digital conditions, any emotion to approve this project, please.
[2:15:21] Therefore, this is the district that I am duly elected to represent. Okay, fine. I like to speak to this item
[2:15:29] Since it is in my district. Okay
[2:15:32] Mr. Anderson, is this the area? I believe that you are a
[2:15:37] Is this the land that the you are a yes? Yes, it's okay. I just wanted to remember
[2:15:42] Okay, I do support this project and thank you sir for your presentation
[2:15:48] I had a question about the access point, or entrance way, into this draw-through.
[2:15:57] Are you able to make your picture larger
[2:16:06] to blow up the site plan map?
[2:16:13] Let's see.
[2:16:15] That's as large as you can get.
[2:16:17] Yes.
[2:16:19] So, the entrance way is right off of North Henry.
[2:16:23] So, it's kind of at an angle if someone who is coming off a rock-query road and turning left onto North Henry,
[2:16:35] they'd have to make a quick right in the entrance here.
[2:16:41] I can't tell, but once you access the entranceway, what is the length?
[2:16:52] The entrance point all the way up to, I guess, the drive through speakers or the way they placed their order.
[2:16:59] We're requiring the width to be 24 feet.
[2:17:01] 24 feet?
[2:17:04] Okay.
[2:17:04] So then, where would the drive through window be for people to pick up their order?
[2:17:10] So they have a lane where they can vet where eight cars can queue.
[2:17:15] It's not a good illustration, but there is a lane for at least eight cars can be there.
[2:17:22] I see the arrows.
[2:17:26] So I can't really tell.
[2:17:28] I mean, and it's, and would have been 24 feet wide if they have to.
[2:17:31] They can't pull over to decide.
[2:17:33] But then I'm going to try to get out of that question, sir.
[2:17:43] Oh, because I'm just concerned about maybe, you know, they're being a backup.
[2:17:48] or some type of bottleneck. I'm concerned about the bottleneck along North Henry Boulevard.
[2:17:54] Sure. So what we've got here is the access point off of North Henry Boulevard.
[2:18:00] You could come in through, can you see my cursor?
[2:18:02] No, got to go ahead.
[2:18:03] But you come along this lane here, which turns into, this is one way.
[2:18:09] You've got double lanes here that loop around and do a single lane.
[2:18:15] It's my understanding, I think the speakers are out this way, and then you've got your window over on this side.
[2:18:22] That's what I'm doing.
[2:18:23] Yeah, you have enough room here to queue eight cars so that folks are not backing out on to North Henry Boulevard.
[2:18:29] There's quite a distance here for folks to line up and then even coming down this way, it'll pull your right back out into the exit lane so you can get right out of line when you're done.
[2:18:41] Okay, so anyone who is trying to turn left out of that access point, it's got to be very difficult.
[2:18:51] So are you all just making it a right turn only?
[2:18:57] This plan has full access.
[2:18:59] So right now you can go right or left.
[2:19:03] I am concerned about the safety of that.
[2:19:05] Considering the amount of traffic, someone who would turn left out of there.
[2:19:14] Okay, so I don't know if it's at this point in Mr. Anderson that we add a condition that there's only be a right turn
[2:19:24] out of
[2:19:25] the
[2:19:27] Drive lab this establishment right turn only it's been is it been vetted by
[2:19:33] House engineer in our transportation person and
[2:19:38] the traffic study and G dot that this is safe they did I mean it was a prove okay can you
[2:19:47] show me where that is where the our study is in the document that you gave us maybe not in here
[2:19:54] that's the case this far maybe not in here but doing the due diligence project process
[2:20:02] I'll still linger there I looked at it most of the way and he approved it so
[2:20:11] It's not in this step and it's a report,
[2:20:16] but the recommendations that we include as it relates to a traffic flow
[2:20:21] were recommendations based on coming from our civil engineering Mr. Mark Willis.
[2:20:27] So we feel like these conditions will address that with address those concerns, but I mean basically anywhere on North Indian Boulevard
[2:20:36] you can you can turn left if you're coming out right.
[2:20:39] So, even like coming out of the amphitheater park, a lot of coming out from court, people do it all the time.
[2:20:48] So, but I think that would have to be a g-dot requirement.
[2:20:52] I don't know if we have the authority to regulate that type of access.
[2:20:58] I think this would have to come from the state.
[2:21:06] Require that there only be a right turn out of this establishment.
[2:21:12] I would have to research that council member, but if we did that, we would be limiting that restaurant.
[2:21:22] While limiting no other business on Northeastern Boulevard, that would be only somebody.
[2:21:27] Only restaurants subjected to those criteria to that criteria.
[2:21:30] Well, this is the only establishment that is closest to the red light, and considering the traffic volume in that area, I believe it may poems a safety concern for anyone who might try to turn left.
[2:21:49] I understand. Yes.
[2:21:51] Can we please? Sounds like the council supports this venture as well. I support it.
[2:21:59] But I have to think in terms of safety.
[2:22:01] Otherwise, if we can add maybe in the condition that they explore or you do more research on the safety aspect of the traffic.
[2:22:11] Yes, that's we'll be glad to do to research that some more to look into that more in debt.
[2:22:19] Thank you, sir.
[2:22:20] Man.
[2:22:21] Yes, ma'am.
[2:22:22] I had something similar in my district.
[2:22:27] We can't do this estate road.
[2:22:30] It's regulated by G dot and like you said, there are other stores, other commercial facilities, buildings that you don't have, that it doesn't apply to.
[2:22:41] Interesting enough, is there a light going to be right there? Is there a light right there or is it?
[2:22:48] It's out for a rock quarry. How, how.
[2:22:52] The light's right to a rock quarry.
[2:22:54] It's a rock quarry.
[2:22:57] Is it right across from that traffic light? Because if it is, that's like the perfect
[2:23:02] spirit that's the turn. Where's the light?
[2:23:08] This right behind sure we write data traffic light.
[2:23:15] What it is is that you got the sure will you then you got this building and then right next to
[2:23:22] you got the intersection where there's stop read the brand's love.
[2:23:25] Well, even if whatever case, oh, the right by the little
[2:23:29] brain, the little stop-racing, right by the stop-racing,
[2:23:33] but yeah.
[2:23:34] So what I'm trying to say about that is I had an issue.
[2:23:39] And I was looking at solutions with businesses.
[2:23:44] And you can't do it for one.
[2:23:46] And it's state regulation.
[2:23:48] It's G dot.
[2:23:49] So, I don't think we're going to get far with that.
[2:23:55] Yes, sir.
[2:23:56] You dumb as again.
[2:23:57] Yeah.
[2:23:58] Certainly, you can ask.
[2:23:59] But again, this is a state highway.
[2:24:01] We can't control it.
[2:24:02] It's a state highway.
[2:24:04] They are very strict about what they do as Ms.
[2:24:06] Ganton is indicated.
[2:24:07] The same thing happened on how we won 38.
[2:24:10] They baited very clear.
[2:24:11] And you know that.
[2:24:12] That's how the law is.
[2:24:13] Certainly, you can go to ask G.
[2:24:15] What they would do.
[2:24:17] But as indicated, you can't do for one business
[2:24:19] that you don't do for the rest, you would put them at a competitive disadvantage when you
[2:24:23] can come out of sign it, or you can come out of the gas station, or you can come out
[2:24:27] of the subway and do the same thing, but you can't do the, they would be at a competitive
[2:24:32] disadvantage.
[2:24:36] I would say, make a suggestion to go to G dot and see what they say, but in essence, we can't
[2:24:42] do that here.
[2:24:42] Yeah, yeah, that's actually what I was going to propose.
[2:24:46] So, Cosmo and Barbara, maybe it sounds like the concern is safety.
[2:24:51] So, we could agree to work alongside the planning staff and G-DOT to take their recommendation
[2:24:57] on what is safe for this point of ingress and egress, and we can move forward with that.
[2:25:04] Thank you, Sarah. I appreciate it. I know, and of course, I don't want to put them at a disadvantage.
[2:25:10] And this will be the first new business with two standards here.
[2:25:16] All the other businesses have been here decades.
[2:25:19] So of course we can't impose any changes on their entrances, but this one, I certainly
[2:25:26] want to look at the safety aspect of it.
[2:25:28] Yeah, I understand you there.
[2:25:30] And the reason I think we should go with this plan is I don't know what you do for living.
[2:25:35] I'm not a traffic engineer.
[2:25:36] I don't know if I write it right out is safe here or not, but G dot certainly would, so I think if we can work with them and work with the planning staff and go with G dot recommendation for this then we could come up with the safe solution for everybody.
[2:25:50] Thank you. I just want to ask the question.
[2:25:52] That's all. Thank you.
[2:25:54] Any other questions, Council?
[2:25:56] I have not been. I need a motion to us with all the recommendations of conditions.
[2:26:01] A motion to approve this please.
[2:26:02] Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. I like to make a motion to approve the request for a special use permit.
[2:26:12] This is number eight, right? Yes, number eight, yes, special use permit for a portion of the property at 4498 North Harry Boulevard to allow the development and operation of a quick serve restaurant with drive through windows and our lanes.
[2:26:27] In addition to all of the conditions that staff have recommended, as well as staff and the applicant will consult with G-DOT on the safety aspect, as far as the right and left-turn safety.
[2:26:48] Yes.
[2:26:50] Yes, ma'am.
[2:26:50] So that's the condition for the sidewalk, the wide sidewalk in the street like decorative
[2:26:55] street lights.
[2:26:57] And also the sidewalks at 10 feet, eight feet, minimal, yes, and the street lights, the
[2:27:07] decorative street lights.
[2:27:09] I see, yes, okay.
[2:27:11] Second.
[2:27:12] This is our second most.
[2:27:13] All fair, please indicate.
[2:27:15] Okay, now this is, thanks very much.
[2:27:17] Thank you.
[2:27:18] Appreciate it.
[2:27:18] Tell Miss Battle, we miss it, huh?
[2:27:20] We didn't.
[2:27:21] OK, absolutely.
[2:27:23] All right, Sony modification case,
[2:27:26] ZM2025.
[2:27:27] That's 03 to Council of District 4.
[2:27:30] Consideration request for Sony modification,
[2:27:32] and rezoning case, RC2023.
[2:27:35] That's 02 for Prop 8 and 264 value heel road.
[2:27:40] Plus, partial S 08, 0102, 000.
[2:27:46] For purposes of one, increasing the number,
[2:27:48] of vision lots from 16 to 28 and two change in the location of the types of amenities to be included
[2:27:55] within the subdivision. So it's just like SR, suburban residential, property owners,
[2:28:01] Claudia Perez, Gargandos, for the two five eight valley hill road and our lintro.
[2:28:08] Okay, Gargandos is sent to say, I'm sorry, but I must manage here, but the two 64 valley hill road.
[2:28:15] Approximately, S-08, 0102, 000, 00, 00 applicants, cloudy parades, grant totes,
[2:28:24] grant totes, and all Rendo, grant totes, Elensis, Agent Jacqueline, Focela, and probably
[2:28:34] is located in Landlott, 92 of District 12 within the City of Starter City of Limits,
[2:28:42] and
[2:28:42] subscribe below.
[2:28:45] 2.580 value heel, value heel, row, partial number S.
[2:28:47] 0.9, that's 0.601, 0.00, contains 2.2, 4.9, 2 acres,
[2:28:55] 2.64 value heel, row, partial number S. 0.8, 0.00, 1.00, 0.0, 0.
[2:29:02] contains 6.58, 2.5, 4 acres, and another dress, partial number S.0.8,
[2:29:08] 0102 0 0 0 0 0 contains 8.2874 acres presented by Mr. Anderson.
[2:29:19] Mr. Tom Twister here. Anyway, sir please.
[2:29:23] Before I begin, I would like to stress that this is not a rezoning.
[2:29:27] The zoning is already in place.
[2:29:30] This is just what we call a major modification.
[2:29:34] AXE, the threshold that the Community Development Director can do as far as the administrative
[2:29:40] modification on the side plan. The applicant is basically requesting to increase the number of units from
[2:29:47] 16 to 28
[2:29:49] the properties located along Valerio Row and is presently
[2:29:54] undeveloped or
[2:29:55] and one of the losses developed with a single family residential as well.
[2:30:00] The parcel that two-feet-day value or roll contains an existing single-family home while the northernmost parcel remains vacant in wooding.
[2:30:09] The current zoning is SR suburban residential and will remain suburban residential. The current future land use designation of the property's low-density residential.
[2:30:18] Even if we approve the zoning modification, it will still remain low density residential.
[2:30:25] The proposed number of units per acre is 1.164 units per acre, which is way below our threshold
[2:30:33] of low density development.
[2:30:35] Our current low density top-side at 3.99 units per acre.
[2:30:41] The sign was illegal.
[2:30:42] I was posted no women in the field and no women in 24, 24, 24, 25.
[2:30:46] The CZIM was held on November 2012 in the Planning Commission was held on December 2nd in the Planning Commission recommended approval.
[2:30:54] Here's an area photo of the three parcels in question.
[2:31:01] Here's an indication and proof that the zoning signs were posted.
[2:31:07] Here's the zoning map.
[2:31:09] As you can see highlighted by the yellow stars in the yellow,
[2:31:13] you can see that it's compatible with the existing zoning.
[2:31:16] Most of the community is a low-density residential and this property is low-density residential.
[2:31:24] Zoning information property to the north of Yadapaiang World subdivision, which is PUD,
[2:31:30] property to the south single-family residential, R-R and S-R property to the east single-family residential
[2:31:36] and suburban residential property to the west single-family residential and rural residential land use.
[2:31:45] future City of Stockbridge, future land use map. You can see that it's low density and all
[2:31:51] the surrounding properties are low density.
[2:31:57] The surrounding land use designations of the
[2:31:59] surrounding properties. To the north, you got the Pyramid Grove subdivision. It's low density
[2:32:04] residential. Proper to the south, you got single family residences and there are low density
[2:32:09] residential. Proper to the east, you got single family residences, low density residents.
[2:32:14] low density residential property to the west single family residence and the land uses low density as you can see that this project is compatible with the surrounding
[2:32:25] land use
[2:32:29] here's the
[2:32:30] city of stock grid subdivision map
[2:32:33] and the K now the surrounding subdivisions you got
[2:32:37] Pine Grove has 206 units with a density of 2.55 units per acre
[2:32:42] You got time view with 780 units with a density of 4.22 units per acre.
[2:32:47] You got cactus ridge with 12 units with a density rate of 1.27 units per acre.
[2:32:53] You got spring valley, spring wood valley, 508 units with a density of 1.9 for it units per acre.
[2:32:59] And you got sensory oaks, 30 units at 1 unit per acre.
[2:33:03] And this project with 1.64 units per acre is compatible with the surrounding land use densities.
[2:33:10] The matter of fact, it would be the third lowest density in the area.
[2:33:21] The zoning history, this property was so shaped with a resounding about two years ago.
[2:33:28] What a property was resounding from rural residential and neighborhood commercial to suburban
[2:33:31] residential.
[2:33:33] That approval allowed a 16-light single-family subdivision would have managed such as a clubhouse,
[2:33:39] who took a bio-court walk-and-trial and dialed part.
[2:33:46] And that result was approved by City Council October 9, 2023 on the RZ-2023-O2 with the
[2:33:53] following condition, minutes and locations, community amenities shall be located at the front
[2:33:58] of the development to maximize visibility, accessibility and integration with the subdivision
[2:34:04] interest. Home construction, all home shopping constructed on a flat foundation basement
[2:34:09] should not be permitted. A multi-use path, a 10-foot wide multi-use path shall be constructed along the
[2:34:15] frontage of the development, integrated into a gated interest design, and connected to internal
[2:34:20] pedestrian circulation where practical. Landscaping and screened evergreen trees was supplemented
[2:34:26] landscape and shall be installed. Insurance, maritime, policy liability shall be provided to the
[2:34:33] adjacent property owner and the event of damage to their home resulting from development activities.
[2:34:37] side-conformers. The subdivision shall be developing the coordinates with the City of
[2:34:41] Stockbridge Unified Development Code. Architectural standards all homes shall comply with
[2:34:46] section on 4.4, 0.2 of the unified development code, and flat recording. No land disturbance
[2:34:51] of building permits will be issued. Until the recombination has been, flat has been
[2:34:56] submitted to the community development department.
[2:35:02] This is a side plan on the previous
[2:35:05] usually approved in 2023 site plan, that was approved by Mayor and Council.
[2:35:16] Here's the summary of the proposed summary of the requesting modification.
[2:35:23] Currently, 16 single-family detached lots.
[2:35:26] The applicant is proposing 28 single-family detached lots.
[2:35:30] And the applicant gives us a reason, connection to the municipal solar system,
[2:35:34] Eliminates the need for individual septic tanks, allowing increased density of 1.64 units per acre,
[2:35:41] steal below the maximum of 3.9 units per acre.
[2:35:45] 2. This is the second requested change, a minute to area located near the subdivision entries.
[2:35:51] A minute to area relocated to the rear of the subdivision. Relocated to improve accessibility,
[2:35:57] functionality, and integration with open space connects directly to a walking trail,
[2:36:01] and pedestrian bridge.
[2:36:05] He also want to make changes to
[2:36:07] on-site septic system.
[2:36:10] The proposed modification will be connected to the
[2:36:12] municipal sewer.
[2:36:15] The city of Stuybridge's water authority approved
[2:36:17] sewer services eliminated the need for septic
[2:36:21] and supporting increased light year.
[2:36:25] It's also requesting the change to approve the
[2:36:28] The original Mini-Depaggers included a pool clubhouse
[2:36:31] pickleboll, pickleboll, cold dog parking and
[2:36:35] walk in Trial.
[2:36:36] He's proposing now a grass open space.
[2:36:39] Pignic area with gazebo, playground and walk in
[2:36:42] Trial would bridge.
[2:36:43] Simplify it and reconstruct reconfigured a
[2:36:46] Mini-Depaggers to reflect some skills near
[2:36:48] neighborhood recreation errors and cohesive
[2:36:50] open space design.
[2:36:53] The previous approved site plan establish the
[2:36:56] for a 16-lot single-family detached subdivision on three parcels contained in 17 units,
[2:37:02] with access from Balihiro Road and a use of onsite septic tanks. The original layout included
[2:37:08] a central amenity area, featuring a pool clubhouse prickleball court, Dahl Park, Walk and
[2:37:13] Trail, and generally located near the subdivision entrance. The current request,
[2:37:23] the current zoning
[2:37:24] and increasing the total number of units to 16 single family detach lots while I maintain it.
[2:37:30] That same overall acreage resulting in a gross density of 1.64 units per acre, way up below the 3.9 unit per acre maximum, permitted
[2:37:39] on the low density residential future land use designation. All lots meet or exceed the minimum
[2:37:44] lot and set backwards requirements established by the UDC. Comparison of approval versus proposed.
[2:37:53] the original proposed has 17 acres, the current plan has 17 acres.
[2:38:02] The original zoning approval has 16 lots.
[2:38:05] The current has 28 lot.
[2:38:08] 12 lot increase for a 75% increase.
[2:38:11] The gross density of the original project was 0.94 units breaker.
[2:38:17] The new density is 1.64 units breaker.
[2:38:21] The increases due to the municipal sewer connection.
[2:38:26] Utility service, onsite septic tanks.
[2:38:29] Now they got connection to municipal sewer and water.
[2:38:32] Eliminates need for individual septic tanks.
[2:38:35] Access on the one entrance on Balihiro Road, that remains the same.
[2:38:39] One entrance off Balihiro Road.
[2:38:42] A minute to location front-up sub the original was the front-up sub division near
[2:38:46] Now they're proposing real-for-subdivision adjacent to the tension pump relocated for better connectivity and safely
[2:38:54] A minute to components originally they put the original approval mandated pool club house pickle by our court
[2:39:00] Dow Park and walk-insure of now the applicant is proposing a grass open space picnic area will gazebo play ground walk-insure
[2:39:08] with pedestrian bridge, simplified lower intensity recreational
[2:39:13] packs. Originally there was a centralized pocket part in material. Now he's
[2:39:18] proposing an integrated real open space and trail system. Open space is
[2:39:23] redesigned and connected to stormwater area. Rollway lay out one internal
[2:39:28] loop street. Now he's proposing two connected internal street for improved
[2:39:33] circulation and lot of access. Lot's size configuration. Originally
[2:39:37] The proposed in 18,000 square feet, a lot of area on septic tanks, now the size will be
[2:39:44] 10 to 12,000 square feet, lots on sewer, smaller uniform, lots consistent with SR zoning,
[2:39:52] stormwater management, detention upon near entrance, detention upon relocated to the rear
[2:39:57] with pedestrian beages, reposition for better drainage and visual buffering.
[2:40:03] Here's the new site plan on the screen, the system of 28 units.
[2:40:09] This slide shows the detail engineering plan for the proposed 28 lot subdivision.
[2:40:14] It highlights the lot layout and turn off street network, relocate the military and the storm
[2:40:20] water facility proposed that the rear of the site.
[2:40:26] Here's the city of Stockbridge, the site plan and the city of Stockbridge map.
[2:40:34] This slide right here shows the proposed sanitary sewer easement across 1452 gallops dry.
[2:40:41] The easement allows them in this special line to extend both north to south of the vision.
[2:40:47] The alignment maximizes impact on existing homes and complies with all clearance and engineering standard.
[2:40:53] It has been a reviewer and improved by
[2:40:58] stock grease water authority.
[2:41:01] Here's a rendering on the proposed subdivision.
[2:41:04] running out of homes,
[2:41:12] staff analysis,
[2:41:21] staff recommended approval with 13 conditions, the first
[2:41:28] condition is site plan conformance. The development shell substantially conformed to the
[2:41:33] concept plan title, concept plan for 25th day and 26th for a value or role prepared by a
[2:41:39] very land expressed data out total third, 225, except as maybe modified by these conditions
[2:41:46] or required by the city council during the engineering and permitting process, minor adjustments
[2:41:50] to lock configuration dimensions, dimensions or infrastructure placement may be approved
[2:41:55] but administratively by the community development directed to accommodate field conditions
[2:41:59] or regulatory compliance. The maximum number of units, the subdivisions shall be limited to a maximum
[2:42:04] the 28th single-family detached lots as shown on the approved concept plan and if you
[2:42:09] should increase the number of large share required and amendment to this major zoning
[2:42:13] modification and city council approval. A minute is location. Community of
[2:42:19] Ministers shall be located at the real-to-subdivision adjacent to the stormwater
[2:42:22] detention pump to improve accessibility safety and integration with the open space
[2:42:27] and trail system. Home construction, our home shall be constructed on a
[2:42:32] foundation's basement and basing the show not be permitted. Multi-use pad, a 10-foot wide
[2:42:37] multi-use pad should be constructed along the Balihio Road, French, and connected to the internal
[2:42:44] sidewalk and trail system. A gated entrance should not be required. Landscaping and screening.
[2:42:51] Evergreen trees and supplemental landscaping shall be installed alone. All property boundaries
[2:42:57] together with a continuous privacy fence to provide effective screening from adjacent properties.
[2:43:05] Number seven, insurance. A marine policy liability or equivalent coverage
[2:43:11] acceptable to the city shall be provided to the adjacent property owner and the event of damage
[2:43:17] to their home as a result of development activities. Site development compliance, the subdivision
[2:43:23] Shelby developing in accordance with the City of Stockbridge Unified Development Code and the SR district standards.
[2:43:31] Except as otherwise condition. Architectural standards, all home shelf and private section of 4.42 of the unified development code, including facade articulation exterior materials, roof pitch and garage design requirement.
[2:43:48] No land disturbance permit, a building permit shall be issued until the applicant has recorded a recombination
[2:43:55] platform, merging the three existing parcels, and submitted a copy of a recorded platform to the community development department.
[2:44:03] Condition on the 11 open space and infrastructure maintenance, all common open space stormwater and immunity areas shall be maintained by a homeowner's association.
[2:44:12] I'll probably you tell us in stone what improvement shall be designed for media and construction.
[2:44:16] Constructed in accordance with the City of Stockbridge, engineering and environmental service department requirements prior to the
[2:44:22] ishners of inesitivicative aquas.
[2:44:26] For women of fencing, a road iron fence shall be installed around the subdivision to provide a defiant
[2:44:32] boundary in his and enhanced neighborhood aesthetics.
[2:44:36] The Finishing shall be located along the Valley Hill, Roll, French, and along any subdivision
[2:44:42] boundaries adjacent to existing residential properties as shown in a crew concept.
[2:44:49] The Finishing shall be supplemented with evergreen landscaping for additional screen,
[2:44:54] screen and visual appeal.
[2:44:55] The final phase is on a height and place and the share will be reviewed and proved.
[2:45:00] Who, by the community development department, prior to the issues that will land disturbance permit.
[2:45:05] All street lighting and insurance lighting, but then the subdivision shall be decorative and design and consistent with the architecture of character of the homes.
[2:45:14] I said.
[2:45:15] The All 13 recommendations for those conditions.
[2:45:18] Councilor Nick questions concerns as far.
[2:45:22] Can I ask questions?
[2:45:27] I will call my comments until after the public.
[2:45:33] Yeah, my question is, what did the old houses look like?
[2:45:36] It would craft me style homes.
[2:45:38] So, could you have a picture with a little...
[2:45:39] No, I don't think we have a picture of the old.
[2:45:44] No, we don't have it in this presentation.
[2:45:46] So, from reviewing this, it looks like they shrink the size of the homes.
[2:45:49] They did.
[2:45:50] Okay, why would you do that?
[2:45:52] From 18,000 square feet likes to 10 to 12.
[2:45:54] I know, but I'm saying the actual size and the footprint of the house.
[2:45:58] Not the lot.
[2:46:00] So they got the size, I see that they put, again, the size of the homes, the lots, obviously,
[2:46:09] were smaller, lots, but you know, you could build a 3,000 square foot house on a 12,000 square
[2:46:15] foot, 12,000 square foot, lots, that's what my house is.
[2:46:19] So I don't see, I'm trying to understand why they shrink the size of the houses to,
[2:46:28] to, to,
[2:46:29] just they would have had more of them but they would have been a bigger, bigger home. So maybe I
[2:46:35] don't know you was there any discussion of that? Not, not, no, no, no, sir. Not exactly but the price
[2:46:42] points the applicant stated the price points would be around 375,000 star. Okay, that's what I'm saying
[2:46:49] but I just want to know if maybe I can ask them when they get up here is that when they
[2:46:58] we're building, and what was the price point of the homes that they're building now?
[2:47:02] Because we need houses in all price points, and certainly, if I'm living in the area,
[2:47:08] I want to get the best quality home built possible so that it maintains my property value.
[2:47:13] Originally, the homes were in the forest, in the 400s, and what was the square footage?
[2:47:20] I think like on 3,000 of all right so that was there was a big nice size home so I'd be interested to see why they decided to shrink the size of the holes.
[2:47:31] Yeah.
[2:47:33] Okay.
[2:47:33] Thank you.
[2:47:36] It's very good question right now.
[2:47:38] Okay.
[2:47:39] All right.
[2:47:40] The actual apricot toward representatives of the apricot.
[2:47:44] before you come up there. I thought we had on these homes, I thought we had a brick requirement
[2:47:50] of lamentable amount of brick that we would have on each home, because I see almost no brick
[2:47:57] on these homes. I see a water table on one, I think, and then a little bit of stone on one.
[2:48:06] What happened to it?
[2:48:07] This is just a conceptual purpose as when he's admit he would, this house went when passed
[2:48:13] the test.
[2:48:13] He would have to have more brick on it.
[2:48:15] Is it also identified in the 13 conditions?
[2:48:19] No, no.
[2:48:19] No, it's just damn the code, it's just in the code, so the whole front side would need more brick
[2:48:27] or stone, and then water tables around three sides.
[2:48:32] Right, so the coast is one that the mic could muster would be just in right here, but it was still required more brick, so I'm thinking I think they make the changes to comply with our coal requirements.
[2:48:46] These homes would be in the 400,000 dollar price range.
[2:48:51] Also the other way is to make the requirement to a cost factor go up.
[2:48:55] Yes sir.
[2:48:58] Yes, please, the owner of the developer, representative, and please pronounce the name
[2:49:06] and excuse me for mispronouncing two names, I'm sorry, but I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
[2:49:12] My name is Alejandro Granados, and I'm one of the developers in this project, and in this case,
[2:49:21] She is a Jacqueline Frenin shallow and she can assist me in my English. She's not the best one, okay?
[2:49:30] I need her her assistance. I appreciate no problem. I have a presentation here.
[2:49:50] It certainly was a good addition that we were able to switch these homes from septic to sewer.
[2:49:56] at every opportunity when we get an opportunity to switch homes or if that's, I think that's a policy of the, you know,
[2:50:04] can't if they have close access to sewer, they should be mandated to connect to it.
[2:50:10] Good job. Absolutely.
[2:50:13] Okay. This is our project.
[2:50:18] We have a profile for 16 lots and many days in the front of the property.
[2:50:26] including a pool, a clubhouse, a pickable courts, and a playground,
[2:50:35] when we receive the
[2:50:37] authorization from the city of Estagrees to connect to the sewer lines, to the public sewer
[2:50:43] lines, we can really design our project to increase or to remove the septic tons,
[2:50:56] and connect to the sewer lines,
[2:51:02] and we made a studio of the market and to have the opportunity
[2:51:09] to offer more houses to more of the average people in or possibilities of the average
[2:51:18] people live in this area, can buy houses more cheaper that we offer in the first large
[2:51:26] yard, you know, because we in the first large yard, in this large yard, we offer houses around
[2:51:37] 3300 square feet, and the price range initially is around 550,000, 580,000, around 6600,000,000, and for that reason, we talk with a lot of people, a possible customers and
[2:52:03] and some neighbors, and the best option is development,
[2:52:12] custom houses with a good size lots.
[2:52:20] And for that, yeah, principal, that is the reason
[2:52:24] we reschedule everything.
[2:52:27] We talk with a lot of people.
[2:52:30] For that reason, and with the opportunity to connect to the sewer is better.
[2:52:44] Thank you for that reason. There was better use to be able to utilize the land a little bit better. Now, having that opportunity to connect directly to the sewer system.
[2:52:54] Okay, this is the our sewer easement.
[2:53:02] Connection is approval for my neighbor and we already have the plan to connect our property to the public sewer.
[2:53:18] In this Laya, you can see our proposal is 28 lots and come on, what a set of carries.
[2:53:31] On the back area, we have the detention pump, same like in the first Laya out, just modify the amenities, remove the pool,
[2:53:43] the pickable court to preserve a good relationship with the neighbors and just keep a
[2:53:53] barbecue area with a gas evil playground, green area, and a walking trail with a dot trail
[2:54:02] in the right side of the north of in the property.
[2:54:16] So as mentioned, these are the
[2:54:18] host amenities. There's going to be a children's playground, barbecue area, Gazibel and a walking
[2:54:25] trail, slash dog, dog trail.
[2:54:33] This is a rendering of the new subdivision,
[2:54:42] and also the
[2:54:43] the model homes, what they proposed, the model homes, what they look like.
[2:54:48] I'll give you a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit.
[2:54:51] About your question sir.
[2:54:56] You say if you can see this, the wide area.
[2:55:03] The requirements say we need to preserve triplets,
[2:55:09] stone or bricks.
[2:55:11] We'll have a stone design to the around five.
[2:55:17] or more
[2:55:22] in our design,
[2:55:27] same in all of the proposal,
[2:55:34] maybe in this render you can see the stone
[2:55:39] area until the door garish side is in the same for the whole house.
[2:55:52] And this one is the one
[2:55:54] or proposal.
[2:56:01] Let's get to see this.
[2:56:05] And this is just a proposed model of the interior of the house.
[2:56:13] So the big question is why are we requesting these modifications and as stated before the approval
[2:56:19] to the sewer system with the city of Sockbridge water authority, of course, they allowed us to
[2:56:25] to add up to 30 homes for the capacity of the existing infrastructure, so that's why we were
[2:56:33] able to do at least 28. We have already secured an easement that will directly connect to the
[2:56:40] sewer lines and the subdivision to the north of the project. The cancellation of the septic
[2:56:45] systems allows us to build more homes and smaller lots of lot sizes, still within the maximum
[2:56:51] density per acre of the city of Stockbridge. The market city in the area supports building
[2:56:56] and neighborhood with homes was comparable square footage ranging anywhere between 350-380
[2:57:01] or up to the 400 with brick, more brick. Our markets market city supports building homes for
[2:57:09] families with a medium household income of 70-80,000. We are proposing moving the
[2:57:15] amenities to the back of the project for the following reasons.
[2:57:19] There are safety concerns, Valley Hill Road as I made your road was
[2:57:23] constant traffic. We're proposing moving the play areas for the safety of the
[2:57:27] children to avoid high traffic areas.
[2:57:30] amenities are being modified to reduce noise and preserve good
[2:57:33] relations with neighboring properties.
[2:57:35] And for this reason we have removed the pool clubhouse and
[2:57:39] pickleball courts. Of course this minimizes the impact
[2:57:42] to the land back there and the proposed amenities will be surrounded by a landscaping green areas to meet the requirements of the city of Sock Ridge and all amenities and properties will follow the city's requirements for setbacks and buffer zones and lighting and the amenities areas and throughout the subdivision will be directed downward to not shine into neighbors homes.
[2:58:06] That's it.
[2:58:08] Good questions, concerns.
[2:58:12] That's for all.
[2:58:13] I'll hold my questions until after the public.
[2:58:18] Anybody down here?
[2:58:20] Go ahead, please.
[2:58:21] So in the development, I certainly applaud the opportunity to increase the sewer.
[2:58:28] Certainly, at every opportunity, I think Ryan that needs to be a code.
[2:58:33] If sewer is winning a closed proximity, it should be required for them to connect to the sewer.
[2:58:39] That is the direction certainly of a modern city that we should be going nobody should be on self-tape unless it's absolutely necessary and most areas are in close proximity to sewer.
[2:58:53] Now, my thing would have been you giving you the 28 lots, but build the same house.
[2:59:03] Don't shrink down the size of the houses, build the same product that you are going to
[2:59:08] build originally but build that on the 28 lots instead of trying to shrink down the
[2:59:14] house and because on a 12,000 lot, you could still do 3,000 square foot house.
[2:59:21] Or maybe even do a combination, do some of the smaller houses for their affordability and then
[2:59:27] do larger houses too, so do both in one plan, some of the 28, some of them would be
[2:59:33] 3,000 square feet, some of them might be 2400 square feet or smaller size, so you offer
[2:59:40] a variety in the neighborhood, instead of just offering all small homes, which basically
[2:59:46] what'll happen is the larger homes will pull up the value of the smaller homes because
[2:59:51] they're in close proximity, so is that a possibility?
[2:59:56] Yes, sir. Is that a possible?
[3:00:00] Our target is offered up for a product.
[3:00:06] I'm not sexy.
[3:00:07] I'm not a communist.
[3:00:08] I want something that's more accessible to the community.
[3:00:11] So that's a main goal and why he had gone for a smaller, smaller homes.
[3:00:19] Go small homes will be a little more economical because we should get that.
[3:00:22] My point is that, certainly, you could have the smaller economical homes,
[3:00:27] but you could also have some larger homes as well, so you could split it between the two.
[3:00:32] So you would have, you would have smaller homes and you would have larger homes.
[3:00:38] That's my second suggestion, and certainly we'll be interested to see what everybody else would have to say.
[3:00:44] As always, we always advise people, you might not want the best house in the neighborhood, right?
[3:00:51] You want someone else, so if I'm in a smaller footprint house,
[3:00:55] And somebody next to me has a 3,000 square foot.
[3:00:58] It's going to have that pulling effect.
[3:00:59] It's going to raise my property values
[3:01:02] and it's going to help maintain the neighborhood.
[3:01:05] So mixed income neighborhoods are a really good thing
[3:01:08] where you have mixed income neighborhoods.
[3:01:10] And it's always a great thing, I think.
[3:01:13] So if something could be worked out in that aspect,
[3:01:17] a certainly applaud again, connecting to the sewer,
[3:01:19] where you'd have more homes and then you would have
[3:01:22] And for you, for your standpoint, you would have a bigger price point on a small, a lot,
[3:01:27] which would include increased profitability on some of the homes which are the larger homes.
[3:01:34] You know, questions from council. Thoughts. It rhymes in reference to, come back to
[3:01:39] polling, please.
[3:01:43] In reference to Miss Alexander's suggestion, and unless the council has any other
[3:01:47] questions, I guess we're talking about a mixture of small homes and larger homes if there are
[3:01:54] And then I guess we probably have to look at a look at a 28, what would that number be?
[3:01:59] I think we not kind of figure out a number per se.
[3:02:02] Or what makes sense here?
[3:02:03] Maybe 25% larger homes.
[3:02:05] 25% you think?
[3:02:08] First of all, I guess this is how it's done.
[3:02:09] Does that make sense to you?
[3:02:10] And whether or not they're agreeable, then that's another thing.
[3:02:13] Yes, it makes sense because you have the affordability,
[3:02:16] which is much desirable.
[3:02:18] But you also have folks who just want to live in a neighborhood
[3:02:21] where you got to make some company. Those neighborhoods work out best. Then have an all one
[3:02:27] price point in the neighborhood.
[3:02:30] Yes, we don't have any problem with that. We can include one
[3:02:34] one design. We have right now four designs for the small houses. We can include one design for the bigger
[3:02:42] lots, you know, because we have one or two, yeah, one different designs to to offer different
[3:02:50] options, or more beaker, all right. So this needs to be in the add to the other the other
[3:02:56] recommendations of conditions, I guess. Okay, you noted it and I guess miss, I mean when we make
[3:03:06] it, when we, yes, who add, if it's approved, you have 25% with 3,000 minimum, 3,000 square feet.
[3:03:18] Okay,
[3:03:24] I'm going to open up to, I don't need to read this, I'll read that, I'm opening up to public hearing there, okay.
[3:03:29] So any comments for this development, you can have a sit down for just a moment, for the briefment, yes.
[3:03:35] Anybody on this for this development, the comments for the public comments on my very left, in the end of the middle,
[3:03:41] before right and the commissar to have negative commissar
[3:03:45] commissar gets this particular development far left in the middle.
[3:03:50] We'll stand up and line up on the side anybody else in the middle or
[3:03:54] far right.
[3:03:56] All right.
[3:03:57] So otherwise if you're the only one and you come up and give your name and address
[3:04:02] please one at a time, name and address in the comments.
[3:04:08] My name is Susan.
[3:04:09] I live at 310 Valley Hill Red on stop red.
[3:04:12] Okay. I'm the largest landowner. I've said this until the I'm blue in the face. I don't I can't scream loud enough about this project.
[3:04:22] I'm the largest landowner adjacent to this project in 2023, which was two years and three months ago.
[3:04:32] They came to y'all and they asked y'all, hey, can we build this? And now I said, yeah, you can build it under these stipulations.
[3:04:43] The first stipulation was he had to move every all the amenities up to the front of the subdivision.
[3:04:51] Here's the two maps. He hasn't done that.
[3:04:55] Only thing he's done is replace the pickleball court in the swimming pool in the clubhouse with a playground and added more houses.
[3:05:04] He's taken it from a sewer to a septic.
[3:05:08] I know why they did that because the whole project is sitting on a rock.
[3:05:14] Rock.
[3:05:15] Whenever I say rocks, as big as my car, they're huge and you go back, you pick up the
[3:05:25] rock.
[3:05:26] Three days later after it's been rain real good, guess what happens?
[3:05:30] There's another rock there.
[3:05:31] It doesn't matter if you're sitting on a rock.
[3:05:35] I'm going to have damages to my house.
[3:05:38] The 270 houses that went back behind my
[3:05:42] And that big subdivision.
[3:05:46] Everybody has a little bit of damage to their house.
[3:05:49] Me? I got lucky.
[3:05:51] I didn't have cracks in my foundation or anything like that.
[3:05:54] But it knocked stuff off the walls.
[3:05:57] Whenever they were blasting.
[3:05:58] But dad went over there while he was still alive and he said, hey, these people, your damage
[3:06:05] in their houses.
[3:06:07] So they quit putting this basements in and they quit blasting like really close to our homes.
[3:06:18] The traffic, I can't scream enough about the traffic.
[3:06:23] This place is already so saturated, it's not even funny.
[3:06:26] The town homes up here by Rico's, everybody's cutting through Valley Hill Road to go to Highway 42 to go in the town.
[3:06:37] Okay, then you got the town homes that's going in at the end of Valley Hill Road, right down there by 42.
[3:06:45] And then you got this subdivision going on right here.
[3:06:48] I don't know, I had no idea what way y'all go, okay, but I am mad, okay, I was upset whenever this
[3:06:59] first came about and I'm like okay, you know, it changes good sometimes, roll with it two and a
[3:07:07] half years ago. I thought they dropped the project. I have asked, I don't know, how many people
[3:07:12] Can you tell me how long they have to revise the map?
[3:07:17] No one, not one person has given me
[3:07:21] a definitive answer of yes.
[3:07:24] They have forever.
[3:07:26] Now you're talking about doing a whole another...
[3:07:30] I don't even know what you call it. I'm just a dumb country bumpkin that's been here for 25 years
[3:07:38] that has built my house that I wanted to die in and take it and turn it upside down.
[3:07:46] Okay, I know you got pretty mad at me at Merle Manders the other night.
[3:07:50] Now I'm here with any of the messages.
[3:07:53] Please, no one else, Thomas.
[3:07:55] Okay.
[3:07:57] So, far as distance is in everything,
[3:08:00] I'm going to show you what the distance is
[3:08:03] for my house to the property line,
[3:08:05] where they're wanting to put this playground
[3:08:07] and the retention pond.
[3:08:10] We all know what comes with retention pond.
[3:08:12] Miscuitos.
[3:08:15] And I understand that they're going to need that.
[3:08:18] I'm standing on the property line.
[3:08:20] that's my house.
[3:08:21] That's okay never started a clock by the way.
[3:08:24] Oh, did, let's okay. I'm going to see it. Okay.
[3:08:26] I don't have enough that. Okay, I can't see it.
[3:08:28] Okay, go ahead, please. Sorry.
[3:08:30] That's how close it is going to be to my back door.
[3:08:34] I see it. I don't see it again.
[3:08:37] I don't know how you should see how the phone went.
[3:08:38] I thought he looked at that.
[3:08:40] All right.
[3:09:01] He gets up here and he talks about how he's contacted neighbors and stuff like that.
[3:09:07] I've never once been contacted.
[3:09:10] My neighbors back on me that are sitting here they've never been contacted.
[3:09:18] What might be good for him is not good for your old timers that have been here.
[3:09:26] You're taking whenever whenever he first came he says, we're going to do this it's going
[3:09:32] to be a offense to him property it's going to be really nice 16 houses we're going to have
[3:09:37] this this this this this this this and young can come and young can enjoy our amenities
[3:09:42] will give y'all passes to come in.
[3:09:47] I mean, everything is flip-flopped so much. Who is held accountable
[3:09:53] whenever this flip-flopps once again once this is already passed? Who's held accountable then? Whenever
[3:10:03] the houses get damaged, you talked about having, you know, insurance.
[3:10:10] Well, we've got insurance. You
[3:10:11] I must be thinking there's going to be some damages.
[3:10:16] It's like you're sitting there saying,
[3:10:18] oh, okay, there's a train rate.
[3:10:19] This takes and it happened.
[3:10:21] Why not just stop the train wreck?
[3:10:25] You're talking about the train on the end of Valley Hill Road.
[3:10:30] That thing stops on the railroad tracks all the time.
[3:10:35] You want to talk about back the,
[3:10:37] okay, sometimes I can't even get out of my driveway
[3:10:40] because of it.
[3:10:43] You're adding so much more congestion to road this already saturated.
[3:10:51] You cannot pour six gallons into a five gallon bucket, it's going to overflow every time.
[3:10:59] I've said this until I'm blue in the face and I don't understand how this project keeps flip flopping all over the place.
[3:11:08] I don't get it. I don't get it. I pray that y'all do the right thing. I really do. It's not about just me. It's about all of these people back here too. I'm partialed my property because it's my home. Just like they are.
[3:11:35] But whenever you tell them that this project passed under these stipulations, and then I hear them coming up here and saying this project is already passed, this project is already passed.
[3:11:49] But you don't talk about the stipulations that was put on that for it to pass.
[3:11:55] Thank you for your time.
[3:11:58] All right.
[3:12:01] You want to speak, ma'am?
[3:12:04] I don't know how it's done.
[3:12:06] All right, your name and I'll just please.
[3:12:10] My name is Judy Hale.
[3:12:13] I live at 61 North Davis Drive.
[3:12:16] I'm the very short street that connects Valley Hill Road with Davis Road.
[3:12:22] Everybody comes by my house sooner or later.
[3:12:26] And here lightly it's constant.
[3:12:28] 24 hours a day we have traffic.
[3:12:31] If you put the subdivision in,
[3:12:33] It's only going to make it tenfold worse.
[3:12:37] I've lived in my property for 68 years.
[3:12:42] My mother and daddy brought that property
[3:12:44] when I was seven years old.
[3:12:48] When their house burned down, I built mine
[3:12:51] on the other end of our property.
[3:12:54] And I've lived in my home for 47 years.
[3:12:59] I know what she means.
[3:13:01] The traffic is terrible.
[3:13:02] the train does back up constantly. On my road the speed limit is 25. I bet we don't
[3:13:13] have one out of 50 cars that goes 25 miles an hour. On valley hill road the speed
[3:13:20] limit is 35. I bet there's not one car out of 50 that goes 35 miles an hour.
[3:13:31] And
[3:13:34] I'm like Susan, isn't there a limit to the amount of time that someone can have to modify
[3:13:42] their original request?
[3:13:45] Or could he have waited five years and then asked for another modification?
[3:13:50] Or if y'all approved this tonight, in another year, can he say, I've decided I want to
[3:13:55] do 50 houses,
[3:14:00] nobody's been able to tell us what the time limit is.
[3:14:04] Now, nobody's been able to answer the question of how the road's going to take care of
[3:14:10] all of this.
[3:14:10] How are the schools going to take care of all of this?
[3:14:13] We're overcrowded as it is, our roads are in horrible conditions.
[3:14:21] Councillor, you want to give it a more time?
[3:14:23] Yes.
[3:14:25] Do you want more time?
[3:14:29] Yeah, I just want to ask y'all a question, would y'all like people coming by y'all's house
[3:14:34] 24 hours a day. I have one of the darkest roads that are around, I think,
[3:14:43] and I have foot traffic around my road constantly.
[3:14:48] I can go out on my front porch at 1 o'clock in the morning and there will be somebody coming by my house.
[3:14:55] Now we're talking about somebody that when they first moved here.
[3:15:00] There wasn't a paid road around us.
[3:15:07] I was one of the first classes that ever graduated from Stopper, Chasco.
[3:15:14] My children graduated from Stopper, Chasco. I've had grandchildren go into Stopper, Chasco.
[3:15:21] I've seen this community change and not all of it's been for the better and I think it'll be a bad mistake to allow this subdivision to go in on Valley Hill Road.
[3:15:33] I think you will, it will be to the detriment of all the neighborhood.
[3:15:40] Thank you for your time.
[3:15:41] Mr. Anderson, could you come back to vote, please?
[3:15:44] Not too many.
[3:15:44] Mr.
[3:15:52] Anderson.
[3:15:53] Okay, so the increase in the houses, what I understood, it was based on actually
[3:15:59] based on from septic to sewer, it's a requirement that we made.
[3:16:02] So that's, I think that's one of the reasons why, if I understand correctly, and we already
[3:16:06] agreed for the conditions that 25% will be larger homes versus the smaller homes.
[3:16:10] have some variety there. The revised map, there's a time frame. Can you address the time frame
[3:16:17] and reference to this map and how it's changed in that nature? I think they're referencing
[3:16:22] to a zoning action, should it be, should a zoning action expire? But there's no time limit on this.
[3:16:31] One of the council members is somebody to make a motion to have that since there was no action.
[3:16:36] There was a certain amount of time that before, like if something gets resolved in like a year or so,
[3:16:43] you have to take some type of action or counsel can come back and ask that that
[3:16:48] rezoning be rescinded, but no one did that.
[3:16:52] Okay, so, overdo, I mean, it's just remains the same.
[3:16:57] Okay, and then the many of these, if I understand correctly, the many of these were changed based on the
[3:17:01] different houses, the number of houses increased I guess. It said some kind of concern. It's not
[3:17:06] minor standing. We're due to a number of increased houses and location and things. That first
[3:17:12] zoning, rezoning it occurred in 2023. That was just kind of like France and land. I don't
[3:17:22] think that would have happened to have 16 homes and to have that many amenities, a pool and a
[3:17:31] It's been very difficult for H.O.A. to support all those
[3:17:35] amenities.
[3:17:38] So, for only 16 homes, that would have been a real tough one.
[3:17:43] You had a comment?
[3:17:45] How do you have that?
[3:17:47] I'm glad you said that.
[3:17:48] Because when you said 16 homes, so this is a different owner.
[3:17:52] Is that what's going on?
[3:17:53] Yes.
[3:17:54] It's a different owner.
[3:17:56] I now, it brings clarification because the first one was kind of like smart homes where
[3:18:03] and then there was like a runoff on the, the, the, the, where the water would drip down.
[3:18:11] Oh, it was a different type of water system and everything. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. So, and that particular,
[3:18:21] I remember that and that brought me to wondering what is the difference now, so they're asking
[3:18:30] to change from what we voted for and what we had requested because at that time we did
[3:18:37] require, which I didn't agree with, insurance, but I thought that was a little bit of that.
[3:18:42] That was a council condition at the time.
[3:18:45] Okay, so they sold the property over to someone else.
[3:18:50] Yes.
[3:18:51] But we had already zoned it for a specific way.
[3:18:56] And now they're coming and asking for it to be modified.
[3:18:59] Modified.
[3:19:01] Got it.
[3:19:02] So.
[3:19:03] I was also, I was also Council member again.
[3:19:07] They didn't have access to sewer, but now the city has decided to run an
[3:19:12] sewer expansion to the property.
[3:19:14] So if originally, if it had had sue access,
[3:19:18] they probably came in with a similar project.
[3:19:21] Okay, well,
[3:19:25] everyone needs to be on a sewer.
[3:19:29] And I know a fence, but
[3:19:33] we talked about that.
[3:19:35] Here we kind of word authority talked about it.
[3:19:37] As well as our public works department.
[3:19:39] I mean, it's something that if it's available, it needs to be required and that's where I'm leaning at all times.
[3:19:52] Now, in regards to things changing, and there are some concerns with the rock blasting and there were some basements.
[3:20:00] Were any homes built on the area?
[3:20:04] No, no, no homes would be built off that project.
[3:20:06] Okay, and so we're conditioned on the fact that they can't have basements. They cannot have basements because they
[3:20:13] Wouldn't be able to black they blast at all trying to create basements. No, nope. There was no construction
[3:20:22] So I mean I guess there are assuming because of another project in the area
[3:20:27] Was sitting on rock and they had to do a lot of blast
[3:20:30] But it wasn't that project. No, it's not this problem. That land was just it still wasn't it's not developed at all
[3:20:35] It hasn't been touched, but there's a herped.
[3:20:38] OK, so no disturbance at all.
[3:20:40] Yes.
[3:20:41] All right.
[3:20:41] And in addition to that,
[3:20:46] the plan originally was
[3:20:48] for the amenities, the playground, the swimming pool,
[3:20:52] to be upfront.
[3:20:53] Are they taking away a swimming pool,
[3:20:55] or are they going to put it in the back?
[3:20:58] They're removing a swimming pool all the other.
[3:21:02] But they're removing it, but they want to add more homes.
[3:21:06] Yes.
[3:21:08] Yes. Yes. That's women pool. So what would be the
[3:21:12] amenity? A barbecue pit, dog park. Let me give
[3:21:16] back to it. I guess the Gazib law, I think this was
[3:21:20] in there. You had it all on it. You showed it to us earlier.
[3:21:24] Yes, sir. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Yeah,
[3:21:27] welcome, Cheryl. Even with 28 homes, the swimming pool would
[3:21:31] be. That would be costly for 28 homes. So does the
[3:21:35] Standard for having a swimming pool is usually 100, 100 new and it's a more.
[3:21:43] If I understand correctly, what we first talked about these amenities was with the first particular developer.
[3:21:48] This is second developed.
[3:21:50] So this is why the change occurred.
[3:21:52] I guess part of the reason why change occurred.
[3:21:54] All right.
[3:21:54] Well, I was curious that what that change was.
[3:21:57] But I remember, I recall the vision of the 16 homes.
[3:22:01] And I thought it was like, I was like, gosh, I might want to move there myself.
[3:22:04] It was beautiful. It was three level, modern homes, absolutely gorgeous homes. I mean,
[3:22:11] who would want to live there in an average price was about $500,000. And these homes
[3:22:17] or have produced some in design and I can understand reducing the amenities.
[3:22:30] But people have a right to, it can be hard, you know, we understand that everyone has a right to use an enjoyment of their property,
[3:22:43] the old neighbors, and the new, because they bought it too.
[3:22:48] And I respect the constituent who's an old neighbor who came up and said, you know, she understands that some change has to be made,
[3:22:58] let's be reasonable, septic,
[3:23:05] what didn't happen, it would definitely be sewage, right?
[3:23:14] But the amount of the properties, the 1.64 per acre, I don't know, I'm just kind of looking at
[3:23:22] the design of it and just what exactly are the concerns because they have a right, if they own
[3:23:28] the properties ever right to you. I think they're mostly concerned about the buffering,
[3:23:33] She says that the property is real close to a property line, but Cole would prohibit that
[3:23:41] SR to SR or the 25 foot buffer and then they had a rear yard set back of 40 feet. So the property would be almost
[3:23:49] 65 feet away from our property when it's constructed
[3:23:52] Would there be anything to a fence a fence and evergreen trees evergreen trees and additional shrubbery. Okay
[3:24:00] All right, but it would not be that close because that was close in from
[3:24:06] I mean, that's the property line and property line, but the houses will not be that close.
[3:24:10] Cold prohibits that.
[3:24:11] Okay.
[3:24:12] All right.
[3:24:13] I have enough for the questions right now.
[3:24:16] Is Barbara really put your comments?
[3:24:18] I am.
[3:24:18] Thank you.
[3:24:20] So,
[3:24:24] I like the concepts and designs of the home I do.
[3:24:29] I have some concerns though, the blasting.
[3:24:32] That's one of the issues that I know that I
[3:24:40] know that blasting in rocks are an issue.
[3:24:47] In fact, there's an area right across the streets from Monarch Village with a mayor and councilwoman again Lee.
[3:24:55] It's full of rocks that area has remained undeveloped for that very reason because of the rocks.
[3:25:03] So, that pose is, in my, my belief, a health safety and welfare concern in which I have spoken with the homeowner who lives right next to her to it.
[3:25:16] She expressed these things concern with the original proposal for 16 homes.
[3:25:22] I noticed that the square footage, the original proposal, for the 16 homes, it was average
[3:25:30] 18,000 square, the 18,000 square feet, the lots and reduced to 10,000 to 12,000 square
[3:25:39] feet.
[3:25:41] Yes, that's still in compliance with the suburban residential zoning district, that's still
[3:25:47] use the minimum requirements of that district.
[3:25:54] So,
[3:25:57] the amenities for all new subdivisions, it has been sent by this council.
[3:26:04] Councilman Alexander has mentioned it multiple times.
[3:26:08] For all new residential developments, we do want a pool and clubhouse.
[3:26:14] All new residential developments, and I'm surprised that those amenities,
[3:26:18] these, the major ones have been removed from this project.
[3:26:23] So what are you going to use to attract potential homeowners here?
[3:26:30] That is another concern.
[3:26:42] The brick requirement of my.
[3:26:48] The price point.
[3:26:52] It is now the 350,000 to 380,000 is what they...
[3:26:58] But currently, but after we impose all our city standards and requirements regarding the elevations,
[3:27:06] I'm anticipating the price for it to jump at least about 15 percent.
[3:27:12] Another 15 percent?
[3:27:14] 15 to 20 percent to be actual.
[3:27:17] The same to see.
[3:27:19] It seems as though this.
[3:27:22] So what are the issues that I have?
[3:27:25] Because these proposals that are being presented from our district
[3:27:28] It's affecting all of the homeowners around it.
[3:27:34] So what I'd like to see is for all the developers who present proposals in my district.
[3:27:41] Please have conversations with the homeowners in the area.
[3:27:47] So it doesn't create conflict right off the bat.
[3:27:52] I'd like to have all of that resolved or discussed upfront.
[3:27:57] Because I don't want to pit neighbors against each other over the development such as this.
[3:28:03] The property owner has a right to build.
[3:28:08] We cannot deny the right for them to build, sell their land.
[3:28:14] I get that.
[3:28:15] I have the responsibility of determining whether or not this proposal is something that I believe will benefit
[3:28:22] that particular area, because my district has been drawing the way, because the council drew my district the way they did, my district has unique needs.
[3:28:34] One area of my district may be able to handle a residential proposal like this, where another area may not.
[3:28:44] I don't believe this proposal is suitable for that particular air, not this amount of density
[3:28:50] on that particular lie, because the railroad track is there.
[3:28:56] You have the railroad, and considering the fact that they've increased the density and the number
[3:29:05] of units on the property with no added amenities is also something that is of concern for me.
[3:29:11] I want the same standards that each one of the council members expected their district.
[3:29:19] I want the same standards in my district.
[3:29:22] So if you approve development to my district, make sure the amenities include a pool and clubhouse,
[3:29:32] not just pack in units.
[3:29:36] So those are concerns that I have.
[3:29:38] I like the concept, I do, is the density, the blasting, that is really a huge concern of mine.
[3:29:49] That's all.
[3:29:50] I would think that I believe would you say Mr. Anderson earlier that the pool is more beneficial
[3:29:56] if you have 100 plus homes or something on those lines?
[3:29:59] Yes, that's the standard.
[3:30:00] That's a standard, okay. And I also thought I understood that these were going to be, well, actually, they're on the ground. So there's no basements to any of these homes, they're on a slab.
[3:30:12] Yes, that's the zoning condition of approval, that there'll be no basements.
[3:30:16] Okay, which means there's a no basements to probably little to no, little to no blasted per se, not much if you're going to be, it's got a level around.
[3:30:24] And then, of course, when it comes to new developments, we can't deny a new development for what we think would be a school situation or infrastructure situation with roads and things this nature.
[3:30:38] That's something that we can't deny that by state law.
[3:30:41] We can't deny for those type of reasons. Those things have to come along as time comes to the set.
[3:30:46] That's correct, Mayor.
[3:30:47] Okay, we can't deny based on those factors.
[3:30:50] Right, right.
[3:30:51] The only thing Steph does is contrast an applicant's proposal or request against our code,
[3:30:57] the UDC and the comprehensive plan and this project met all that criteria.
[3:31:04] Okay, including the density density is only 1.64 units per acre, that district allows
[3:31:11] up to 3.99 units per acre.
[3:31:13] God, appreciate it.
[3:31:14] It's good.
[3:31:17] That was the concern of mine.
[3:31:18] I mean, if the density that I already allows a 3.9 unit per acre,
[3:31:25] it's changed ownership.
[3:31:27] There, you just, I was about to say,
[3:31:31] test for you.
[3:31:33] You presented to us the fact that there was no land disturbance,
[3:31:40] like wherever the blasting was from,
[3:31:42] did not come from that particular development.
[3:31:44] And it's under 100 homes, the regulation and the requirement of a pool and a gaziba clubhouse.
[3:31:58] We have a certain amount of homes and that's when we require certain amenities.
[3:32:05] So we have to be realistic.
[3:32:07] It's not town homes, right?
[3:32:10] Thank God.
[3:32:10] I mean, I don't want to say thank God, but it's not town homes and it's not 50 or 60 homes for talking less than 30 homes.
[3:32:21] So I think that's what the reason.
[3:32:24] Again, people have a right to earn our living and they bought the property.
[3:32:29] It's already zoned for that particular area.
[3:32:35] Besides me loving the three story designs of the 16 homes other than that.
[3:32:41] So, you know,
[3:32:44] who am I to deny it, I can't,
[3:32:53] I see the design, I mean, we've got
[3:32:55] walking trail paths,
[3:32:59] I do have some concerns, I want to make sure that there's a nice
[3:33:02] buffer between the neighbor's home, it's a, it's a concern in condition of approval, right,
[3:33:09] but you know, I don't want her to have to go look at a playground or whatever it is.
[3:33:15] It'll be heavily screening and buffer,
[3:33:17] a separated by offense.
[3:33:19] Yeah.
[3:33:20] But other than that,
[3:33:22] there's no blasting.
[3:33:25] Testified that there's not been any blasting,
[3:33:28] not for that particular area, that land
[3:33:30] disturb, that the person the previous owner
[3:33:32] didn't do any work.
[3:33:34] So I don't have anything else to say.
[3:33:40] I mean, I think we're following the rules or regulations,
[3:33:44] and let me be clear,
[3:33:45] You know, yes, everybody wants certain standards, but if if 16 to 20 something homes are in my area and their knife houses, I can't require a simple.
[3:34:02] It's not realistic. Who's going to keep it up?
[3:34:12] So, that's all.
[3:34:18] 100 homes over 900 and Marnartville is the largest subdivision and we are paying 400 and something
[3:34:26] quarterly, isn't that right, Mayor?
[3:34:28] This for it?
[3:34:29] It's not, of course, it's a buy-in, it's semi-anglement, but it's over 600 dollars.
[3:34:33] Yeah, something, something, something, something like that.
[3:34:36] With over 900 homes, so come on now, I mean, can you imagine doing that with 28 homes?
[3:34:44] You got to be realistic, you got to be educated and be like, I don't know,
[3:34:48] head of it, but you got to be, you know, I mean, really think about common sense things.
[3:34:54] So.
[3:34:55] Who says that quick, please?
[3:34:56] Yeah.
[3:34:57] This neighborhood sounds very similar to the neighborhood that we did on Highway 42,
[3:35:03] across some Eagles landing, first Baptist Church.
[3:35:06] Right. It was a smaller neighborhood where,
[3:35:10] I certainly, I felt for brick on the homes in order to get that, but basically what it came
[3:35:16] down to is that we had so few homes that the amenity package was scaled back. I know
[3:35:22] Councilman Boy was fighting for the brick on those homes over there too in order to try
[3:35:28] to make that happen. But what it really comes down to is that and I think all of us
[3:35:35] up here agreed that we need it single family detached and that here and I heard that a hundred
[3:35:40] times because I was trying to push for a hundred percent brick on some of the homes but every
[3:35:45] person up here said, I would do anything to have single family detached homes in my district.
[3:35:51] Well guess what?
[3:35:51] These are single family detached homes in your district and there are various sizes that we
[3:35:58] agreed that we're going to do 25% larger homes, 75% of those will be smaller homes and
[3:36:04] you've already indicated that the standard for building those homes will be brick front water
[3:36:10] table on the side and that would kind of hold down the cost on the smaller home, but there
[3:36:14] would be larger homes that are required.
[3:36:17] And I echo what Ms. Gantt has as argued here,
[3:36:21] which is, we were talking about 16 homes.
[3:36:24] We added 12 more in understanding this.
[3:36:28] And I sympathize with the neighbors,
[3:36:30] but the state is spending $50 million on how we 42 right now.
[3:36:35] There's been a $50 million to widen it.
[3:36:38] So that'll have better access for Valley Hill
[3:36:41] and the surrounding area.
[3:36:43] When it's finished, it's going to have four lanes of traffic, and there's actually going to be a reconfiguration of the Valley Hill Road exit.
[3:36:54] I've seen the plan, it's very well thought out, it's very well laid out in order for, you know, to move forward.
[3:37:01] And I think that I think it was mentioned that townhome plan on Highway 42, that actually fell through, right?
[3:37:08] Yes, so the man the town home project that you were talking about on Highway 42 in Valley home. That actually it did not move forward
[3:37:18] So and you could risk right there and not saying it something might not come there because things move forward
[3:37:24] But that's some news that you probably sounds like you didn't know that the town home project and Highway 42 in
[3:37:30] Early Hill is not moving forward at this point. So that's kind of where we are. But the city needs single
[3:37:36] family detached homes. We do. And as we've said, we had a lot of town home communities, but certainly
[3:37:44] we want to offer variety. And the last thing that I'm going to close by saying is, listen, in 2021,
[3:37:51] When it was a different situation when we were in 2021, 2022, interest rates were 2%.
[3:37:58] Right?
[3:37:59] So as a builder, you might have built a very expensive house at 2% interest rate.
[3:38:06] But now at 6% interest rate, the payment with in some instances be double.
[3:38:11] So I can understand why there's been changes to the program because affordability is a real
[3:38:17] issue.
[3:38:17] because a $500,000 house at 6% interest is double the payment and it would be at 2%
[3:38:24] interest. So understanding the affordability and building the smaller homes while maintaining
[3:38:29] some of the larger homes at 5% interest rate, that's kind of where we are now. So single family
[3:38:36] detached is what we need. Thank you. It's better. Thanks, Mayor. I just had follow up questions for Mr.
[3:38:44] And so this was the builder based off some of the public comments.
[3:38:52] So the amenities now include walking trail, playground, bridge,
[3:39:00] picnic area.
[3:39:02] And some of the legacy residents stated that the previous developer was willing to give them access
[3:39:08] to the amenities.
[3:39:10] Is that something that you guys are amenable to?
[3:39:21] Yes sir, the amenities is in the back side, but it's open community, you know, and the amenities is open for the whole neighbors.
[3:39:34] The first law job we have a gayed community in the first law job with 16 lots is a gayed community for that reason.
[3:39:43] the community don't have access to the amenities and one of the reason to move the amenities to the
[3:39:52] front is for the gated community. We remove the gated community, we leave our open road.
[3:40:00] The amenities is for the whole neighbors and the community. So you don't have a problem with that at all?
[3:40:06] No, sir.
[3:40:08] All right, and then my next concern was one person brought up the proximity.
[3:40:13] I know Mr. Anderson, you talked about the setbacks and the footage.
[3:40:19] And so you also talked about offense being set up as well.
[3:40:23] So if they would have access, how would they gain access with the fence and the,
[3:40:29] and they would come through the main entrance through the front.
[3:40:33] It will not be gated, but it will be finished just to separate the property.
[3:40:43] Thank you.
[3:40:44] Okay, there's no other questions there, and I guess in a sense, I need a motion to prove it or not.
[3:40:50] Some of the property are approved.
[3:40:52] Okay, from Ms. Gantham, I'm sorry, I'm on favor please.
[3:40:57] Okay.
[3:40:58] All posed?
[3:40:59] I have posed.
[3:41:00] All right.
[3:41:01] A three-one motion pass.
[3:41:03] Comment? Go ahead, please. I'm opposing this because I'm listening to the concern desires of the
[3:41:10] neighbor who will be a close to this. I believe there is a health safety and welfare concern.
[3:41:19] As the neighbors have experienced, practicing for the adjoining homeowners is also a concern.
[3:41:28] I believe that this development, although the concepts are very nice, I believe the density,
[3:41:37] the number of units, it is too high in my opinion.
[3:41:44] Those are my thoughts.
[3:41:45] I'm listening and I'm addressing the concerns of the neighbors who live there.
[3:41:51] As a district representative of the area,
[3:41:53] I had hoped that my council mates would consider the fact that I represent the area and I don't support this particular development with this amount of density.
[3:42:06] I'd hope that they would have at least reduced the amount of units they did not.
[3:42:13] So, I'd like a rest. Thank you, sir.
[3:42:15] All right. So, make sure we had that condition in there that was 75 or 25.
[3:42:21] Yes, we added it. Okay, thank you. All right, so on that note, once again the past three one and we'll move on so items number 10, 11 and 12 have been deferred till nine February 26. So we'll go to item number 13, which deals with the final reading and adoption proposed 2026 operating budget.
[3:42:42] Capra and Prumus plan. Mr. Abbasin and Mr. Malazi, gentlemen,
[3:42:53] and I guess congratulations
[3:42:54] in the sense to the developer of your new project.
[3:43:20] Good evening, once again Mayor Council and community. As we convene the final public
[3:43:25] hearing this evening, I'm pleased to present for you consideration the physical year 26 proposed
[3:43:31] operating in capital budget. The final budget balanced budget totals 74.1 million across all funds
[3:43:38] include in general reform budget of 34.7 and reflects your priorities for responsible growth,
[3:43:45] core service delivery, and long-term financial stability. This plan continues,
[3:43:50] our commitment to stable governance on a millish rate of 3.77 meals,
[3:43:54] maintains since 2023 without an increase to our residents, while building on the progress,
[3:43:59] documented, and recent annual comprehensive financial reports. The fiscal year
[3:44:04] 226 budget advances a balance set of investments across organization and has public safety resources,
[3:44:11] sprinted public works, and infrastructure with combined budgets increasing to approximately
[3:44:15] 644 million to address roads, sidewalks, facilities and parks.
[3:44:21] Targeted technology upgrades to monitor our systems and cyber security, continuous support
[3:44:26] for events and community programming that drive engagement and economic activity.
[3:44:30] A full point of 4% cost to live in for all city employees, which is a critical investment in our workforce to help offset and fluid inflationary pressures maintain competitive compensation and a tight labor market and support retention, morale and continuity of high quality service to our residents.
[3:44:49] In addition, this budget positions the city to events, major splash six capital projects, including the Community Development Center, City Hall.
[3:45:00] Myrmander's improvements in the public, the new public, maintenance facility, while sustaining a fund balance above best practices thresholds and leveraging the financial flexibility created by fully retiring the amphitheater bond.
[3:45:14] Collectively, the fiscal year 26 budget is a forward-looking map roll map that protects our financial health, invest in core services and infrastructure and support a safe and vibrant prosperous stop bridge.
[3:45:27] I respectfully recommend adoption following tonight's final public hearing and staying ready to answer
[3:45:33] in the questions you may have.
[3:45:35] I would also like to thank City staff for their hard work and a dedication throughout
[3:45:39] the last three months and adopting this budget specifically to finance the department where
[3:45:45] every change we understand that we have to go through the full budget and figure out what
[3:45:49] those adjustments are coming from so we want to just thank staff and they hard work
[3:45:53] time for the flexibility and responsiveness to this budget. So without further do Mr. Malazi?
[3:46:16] Sorry to answer the question.
[3:46:22] May I? This is our third and final budget to
[3:46:30] public hearing and we will at the end of VT request for your consideration to adopt the budget
[3:46:37] that will be due January 1, 2020, 6.
[3:46:43] Nothing has changed in our general fund that's
[3:46:46] at a 4,760,8690 and at the end of my summary, that's the amount with all the changes
[3:46:58] that we have been having in a public hearing one, two and three.
[3:47:06] That amount is the drive from the revenue that is projected.
[3:47:10] So unless there is corresponding revenue somewhere else, our expenses will be within that
[3:47:16] amount. And then the general total funds, that is general fund plus other funds, the total
[3:47:25] and is 74,165,684, they are two reductions that we have done in the enterprise that
[3:47:36] talk down the line. So revenues, expenses for general fund, 34, 7, 6, 8, 6, 9, and the
[3:47:45] all funds, 74, 10, 165, 6, 6, 8, 4. Then I want to take time to see on the revenues. But I
[3:48:05] transfers. There's 2.2 million. That's one time transfer. And this one time transfer,
[3:48:19] consumer and Alexander touched it during the discussions. This is the money that is coming
[3:48:25] from other fans, and specifically from plus, plus projects are for six years. So if we don't
[3:48:36] track it properly, we'll find out that we want projects being done in two years if three
[3:48:40] years. For those projects to be done, that means you have to take money from somewhere else
[3:48:45] and most of the time it's general fund. Unfortunately, we don't account for that. We don't
[3:48:51] go back to see how much money we have borrowed for those projects to be finished.
[3:48:56] That's where that detransfuzz are coming from 2.2.
[3:48:59] So just know that next year that money will not be there.
[3:49:05] So it's one time.
[3:49:08] Just want to make sure that we are aware of that.
[3:49:11] So that money is there, but it's one time source of revenues.
[3:49:16] That makes our budget to 32, 76 to 8, 6, 90, otherwise our budget would have been on 32 million.
[3:49:26] That's the distribution of revenues.
[3:49:28] It's the same that you have seen, but this is just on the pie chart.
[3:49:33] And then this is the past history of where we have come from.
[3:49:37] in the G20, when the 2, we were 15 million budget, 15.3,
[3:49:42] 20.23, it was the 24.8, and 20.4 is the 26.7, 20.25,
[3:49:54] 20.9.2, and now we are talking about 20.26 is the 32.74.
[3:50:01] So that is showing the growth of the city.
[3:50:04] Revenue is going up because the a lot of things that are taking place within the community, which is to the positive side and then we have
[3:50:16] The distribution of that 34.7 million where it's going is going to do the task that have been listed here starting from governing body through other financing uses.
[3:50:33] I want you to look at that amount of how much it's in there.
[3:50:43] Then that's a general fund distribution, which is the same that we have come from.
[3:50:50] And then we have other funds, including general funds at a 4.7.
[3:50:57] Then we have total of 74.1 million.
[3:51:01] And you see here there are some fans, these are active fans, all these ones are active fans,
[3:51:09] but you see some of zero amount, zero amount confiscated assets is zero.
[3:51:17] But during the course of the fiscal year, there may be activities.
[3:51:20] So when you approve all these kinds of whatever may happen, we don't need to do budget
[3:51:28] amendment as we have been doing because they are there. So, if you see the zillos, that means
[3:51:36] they are no activities, but you never know 20 to 26 something will happen there.
[3:51:45] These are the priorities that the Council has, community center, Tis++ projects, downtown
[3:51:52] development, we're finding, I think is on the agenda today again, City Municipal Building,
[3:51:57] Then we have highlights for 2020-26, a road and side walks improvements, public safety enhancement.
[3:52:07] That's the set-light location for our public safety PD.
[3:52:12] No increase in property tax.
[3:52:15] That's for this year.
[3:52:16] We can't talk about next year.
[3:52:18] 3.7 million.
[3:52:20] That has been since 2020-23.
[3:52:22] Community development, fiscal proposal for 2020-26,
[3:52:26] See, that D has passed.
[3:52:30] A quick phase have been a dormant for us, so we are expecting, come January 1, a phase will increase
[3:52:38] the from services of community development. Then there's the 4% color for our employees, public
[3:52:49] works, new facility is under construction, asymmetry improvements, that's the reason why they have
[3:52:57] additional 10,000, so there's 20,000 for that are located from general fund to that fund.
[3:53:06] Credit card payments face to be installed.
[3:53:09] Thank you, Council, you have installed that one, so that you would be out of this one.
[3:53:17] Then we went through this one, face to second.
[3:53:21] the duty is please do read this one. Even after the budget has passed through, when we hear about governing body, what do they do?
[3:53:33] That's our elected officials. You see here, their job, that's the plan, strategic plan, they give directions, they make the legislation for this city.
[3:53:46] And then you have the city manager and other appointed and the staff to implement those policies and procedures.
[3:53:58] Governing bodies still there.
[3:54:00] We have supporting staff from the governing body for the governing body to function.
[3:54:05] We have staff, we have executive assistant.
[3:54:07] We have administrative assistant.
[3:54:10] They provide the initiatives and various other duties for the council to function as it will be.
[3:54:17] that is supported by administration appointed this staff and the staff of the city of
[3:54:26] stop bridge. Then you have the city cracks office, you have the city cracks office again
[3:54:33] for 2026 of a view. Then you have the city manager, the job of the city manager, go
[3:54:43] through, we read through this once, but I'm just going over, what's the city managers office
[3:54:51] do? Then you have the city treasures office, what do they do? What takes place? They are
[3:54:58] finances under the city treasures office, and then you have community development.
[3:55:06] We have
[3:55:07] human resources, what is the job for that department, which is
[3:55:14] municipal court, most of us, we know municipal court,
[3:55:18] but if you know to some highlights, you can get them
[3:55:20] on the 2025, yeah, in review,
[3:55:24] then you have, what are the goals for 2026?
[3:55:30] You have PD, department of review.
[3:55:33] So this is public safe as again, public safe to OPD, then you have the 26 proposals of finding what are the activities that they are planning to do.
[3:55:47] And that's the establishment of again, you know, we have a new satellite that is satellite office will be part of the initiatives or goes for 2026.
[3:55:58] Public works,
[3:56:02] IT information technology,
[3:56:08] then the last one will have will be the events.
[3:56:12] We have just passed the calendars or it's going to be passed or discussed.
[3:56:18] The events, we have three events that are taking place throughout and the informed of what the department of events do.
[3:56:29] Then I want us to also know the four million.
[3:56:36] This four million is the one that is being transferred from general fund to fund the other funds for operations.
[3:56:46] Similarly, it's 20,000, we discussed that one.
[3:56:50] Then you have CDA, and the downtown development authority, a total of 435, where we have
[3:57:10] 306 for CDA, and then you have 68,000 for CDA, for a total of 405.
[3:57:21] You are a, you know that is for our data payment, 1.2, then you have also PFA, that's for
[3:57:30] another 1.5, then the last one is the 840, this is the transfer from general fund to amphitheater.
[3:57:44] If you saw the budget for amphitheater is 3 million, and out of that 3 million, they are projecting to get revenues.
[3:57:55] and the shortfall would be 840, if the expenses were limited to that 3 million, if the expenses
[3:58:05] would be 3 million, then that would be different. But as of now projected the transfer
[3:58:12] from general fund for 20 to 26 is 840. For a total of 4 million, that is being transferred
[3:58:19] from general fund to fund other funds for operations.
[3:58:25] Then the summary on summary of general fund,
[3:58:30] which is the 304.7 million proposed expenses,
[3:58:35] including additional expenses or changes,
[3:58:38] to expenses cannot be more than a 34.7 million.
[3:58:43] This is the now under Council's consideration for approval.
[3:58:51] If there would be additional expenses to general fund,
[3:58:54] then we need to get corresponding expenses.
[3:58:59] Number two, all other funds including general fund,
[3:59:02] all fund, 2026 proposed budget are in balance.
[3:59:07] Stormwater expenses have been reduced by 173,500 to be in line with estimated revenues.
[3:59:19] Water expenses have been reduced by 487,940.
[3:59:26] Stormwater and stormwater budgets had revenue from reserve.
[3:59:32] So I'm discussing here, we have already discussed with the public works director of how we are going to resolve this once because you cannot budget operations from reserves, just know that reserve is always one time funding.
[3:59:52] Next year it will not be there, next year it will not be there, so we have gone through if they will have problems with it.
[4:00:00] Capital projects, yes, we can use, because Capital projects funding either from reserve or other still be one time.
[4:00:09] So, my request is to approve the consider approving the general fund, set of 4.7,
[4:00:19] And the other fans, totaling 74.8, a 74.1 million, not 74.8 million.
[4:00:42] Question Council for Mr. Milazzo, Mr. Emerson?
[4:00:46] Go ahead, sir. Mr. Berr?
[4:00:48] Mr. Emerson?
[4:00:50] No. Mr. Milazzi.
[4:00:51] We talked about the amphitheater fund on a couple of different touch points.
[4:00:59] You said the initial budget was 3 million, but then you spoke on a transfer of shortfall
[4:01:07] of 840,000 dollars.
[4:01:10] So I'm clear that there are projecting that what they need in 2020 to 26 will be 3 million.
[4:01:17] out of that, they will have expenses, revenues, that's from tickets, from home,
[4:01:29] sponsorships, and remember they said money just said that this will be
[4:01:34] year-round activities, so there are some activities where they will get money.
[4:01:40] We have a number, we've always exceeded the number in the past, correct?
[4:01:43] Um, that's the system and it's just something just besides me here, I think he may explain and we have, yeah, yeah, I'm
[4:02:07] not in agreement with short changing we're not going to, I say we do what is expected to do, but it's at 4.5, it's at 4.5, it's a facility that if you do the data or statistics,
[4:02:23] on what it takes to run something. I don't want to shoot us in a foot and go back with this
[4:02:29] mismanagement of funds on a budget that we, yes, we can amend it. And people, you know,
[4:02:37] use campaign stuff or a remote screen, but make sure that it's the ample amount of money that is
[4:02:47] needed to run the facility without someone saying, oh, they're just spending all this money
[4:02:55] on the amp of their. And the reason I say that is because it's hate, it cost money to run
[4:03:00] facilities, cost money to run any facility. So I don't want to short change us. And if it costs
[4:03:08] 4.5 normally, then that's what it needs to be. If that's the case. And it's not all their
[4:03:15] to bank their, you know, they're just spending all this money and amphitheater. Not we have a plan
[4:03:20] in place to have shows that might sell more or based off the studies of what you look at. But I
[4:03:28] don't want us saying, over just trash and money, they went over budget again. You know, and I'm going
[4:03:38] to make it really clear again, budgets. No, they're not meant to go over. They're, they're a map,
[4:03:44] a road map, but they're not illegal, and nobody's doing anything criminal when they do go over.
[4:03:50] It's scaling, like any other business or any other thing that people do, or when they buy stock
[4:03:57] and sometimes it goes down and sometimes it goes up and sometimes it doesn't do what it's supposed
[4:04:02] to do that year, or somebody in the higher-ups of government says one thing, and then all of a
[4:04:10] And, you know, all the stock is flat.
[4:04:15] It's the same thing with a budget.
[4:04:18] So we need to stop that narrative in the drama behind it.
[4:04:25] And if it's 4.5 million,
[4:04:28] or whatever, it's cost to run professionally,
[4:04:32] the way we need to do with whatever building we have,
[4:04:36] and that's what we need to do.
[4:04:38] So long as we're not going broke doing it.
[4:04:43] It's not so quick, please.
[4:04:44] Let me say this.
[4:04:45] I want to 100% echo and I know what Mr. Barry was trying to go.
[4:04:49] We're going to set ourselves up for $3 million budget.
[4:04:53] No one that that's not adequate.
[4:04:56] And then in the end, all we're going to hear about is,
[4:04:58] ah, they went over budget again.
[4:05:01] No, we know that last year we spent what.
[4:05:07] Mr. Malaw, the way we spend on every deal of buildings, 4.4, I think I see here.
[4:05:12] So last year, if you sell last year, that's 224, we spent the 8.1.
[4:05:18] So in 225, 25 is projected the 4.4.
[4:05:23] Right, 4.4.
[4:05:24] The 4.4 schedule was a scale back.
[4:05:28] How many shows that we do?
[4:05:30] How many shows that we do?
[4:05:31] We have to, can you come up, is that okay Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr.
[4:05:36] Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Can you come up?
[4:05:47] Do you know how many shows that we did even this year period?
[4:05:53] Just how many paid concerts did we do?
[4:05:56] I think about 10.
[4:05:57] Right. We did 10 paid concerts.
[4:06:00] There's 365 days in the year.
[4:06:04] We only did 10 and we spent 4.4 million dollars on the 4.4.
[4:06:09] I think we could have got more out of the 4.4 than the 10 and I'm not 40 in the figure
[4:06:15] at you, Ms. Web, and you can have a seat now.
[4:06:18] I just wanted to get that clarify, is that on a scale-back schedule where we only did 10 concerts
[4:06:27] all year at a $20 million facility we spent 4.4.
[4:06:31] What I want us to do is to get ahead of the game, I want us to spend the necessary dollars
[4:06:36] to book the maximum amount of concerts that we can do based on this budget that we did in the previous year.
[4:06:43] We've never been under that number. That's the lowest number that we've had and how that we get there.
[4:06:49] We really kind of damaged our reputation by canceling concerts and then going back changing the schedule.
[4:06:58] That's not what we want to be known for. We want to be known for booking the shows,
[4:07:02] Standing behind our commitment was unfortunate that we had, you know, a change over in the middle of the year.
[4:07:09] Whoever the provider is that we bring in, we're going to give them this budget.
[4:07:13] They're going to stick to this budget and that's it. That's what we're going to do.
[4:07:17] And I want everybody coming back to us saying, well, this happened to that happen.
[4:07:22] When the reports are supposed to come two weeks out of the show, we expect the reports to come two weeks out of the show.
[4:07:29] Miss Melissa.
[4:07:30] In his team will be responsible for the finances, just like they were, this is amazing. When Mr.
[4:07:35] Malaisi was in charge of the expenses this year, they actually came down, right? They came down, because we had a solid, you know,
[4:07:46] friend where he was following up on the money that was going out, who was getting paid, what was going to happen?
[4:07:52] Those vendors need to be vetted as we've agreed to do right, Mr. Malazin.
[4:07:57] Every city vendor will be vetted.
[4:08:00] We'll make sure that those amounts are going out or appropriate.
[4:08:04] But we did make progress this year where the budget came down.
[4:08:08] But Mr. Emerson, you have said to me,
[4:08:12] and I believe that in I bought into it 100% which was
[4:08:16] the halo effect of the amphitheater.
[4:08:20] We have no idea, but we went to Verlington.
[4:08:23] We went to the Riven Cutting.
[4:08:24] We have no idea, but we went to the first watch Riven Cutting.
[4:08:29] We have no idea, but Tim Horton's coffee is coming here.
[4:08:32] Seven brewers coming over there.
[4:08:34] Crown pizza is thriving.
[4:08:36] Frozen smoke is doing well.
[4:08:38] ABA therapy.
[4:08:39] We just had a brilliant Riven Cutting at burn boot camp, right, Mary?
[4:08:43] Absolutely.
[4:08:44] Those businesses are happening by accident.
[4:08:47] They are a halo effect of the money that was vending.
[4:08:51] Now, I look at it on a macro scale to look at,
[4:08:54] look at true as part, right?
[4:08:56] I'll fit $700 million project that the county invested $400 million in, right?
[4:09:03] Now, the halo effect around that has been a billion dollars in economic development created.
[4:09:09] Of course, we're micro.
[4:09:12] We're not there.
[4:09:13] But we can look and see at what is happening right all around us with the new businesses that are populating our area
[4:09:21] And we have a ribbon cutting now almost every week. Well, we first started. I don't know you all when you're first started
[4:09:27] Ribbon cut is where a rare curse
[4:09:29] What they were very rare
[4:09:32] Now we have all the time and people are knocking on the door that can I mean development Ryan is as busy as possible and he tells us all the time
[4:09:40] His department is driving the revenue, right?
[4:09:44] His department is making revenue right in the left.
[4:09:47] And so many more businesses are coming.
[4:09:49] So I want to do the appropriate thing.
[4:09:51] I call it investment.
[4:09:53] We invested in ourselves in the $22.5 million facility.
[4:09:57] We paid it off.
[4:09:58] We have got the economic momentum now.
[4:10:01] I don't want to do anything to step on it.
[4:10:04] 10 concerts stepped on it this year.
[4:10:07] We want to use that amount.
[4:10:08] But we want to get a better deal based on what we're paying the artists and the requirements.
[4:10:15] And we understand now with the way the economy is going and ticket sales are going.
[4:10:20] These artists should be charging less. They should be charging less.
[4:10:25] Based on the way ticket sales are going not just with us,
[4:10:28] but with all the facilities that are not selling out.
[4:10:31] Because of the ticket prices have really gotten out of hand.
[4:10:34] So let's look at it, examine it, and whoever the provider is that we bring in from the RFP.
[4:10:41] We need to hold them to this budget that we had this past year at about 4.5.
[4:10:47] You know, that would be my recommendation.
[4:10:53] You got it.
[4:10:54] Come on, sir.
[4:10:56] Okay.
[4:10:56] Go ahead, Mr. Emerson.
[4:10:57] What do you got to respond to that, I guess?
[4:11:04] So, um, when we was going over this, trying to find the funding,
[4:11:09] We was going back and forth and Mr. Malazee was able to find the funding for that particular budget.
[4:11:16] But what we did, we kind of looked at it and all those points that I'll make are valid.
[4:11:20] Those points are valid.
[4:11:22] But another thing that we looked at, we looked at the approach that we have been using for the last three years.
[4:11:27] And we just thought that approach was not sustainable.
[4:11:31] For instance, we did a flat ticket pricing for all acts.
[4:11:38] The same price used regardless of the artist profile, the demand, the data we, how demand
[4:11:44] acts was underpriced.
[4:11:46] We lost revenue on that, enterprise and name, but Jennifer and practice.
[4:11:51] We had that the whole intent was to create an enterprise, but the model that we was currently
[4:11:58] using did not produce the enterprise amount of money that we was trying to produce.
[4:12:04] So what we're trying to do is something a little bit different this year.
[4:12:06] what completely different this year,
[4:12:08] to drive that revenue in that we've been talking about,
[4:12:11] while still maintaining the quality
[4:12:12] of the shows and things that we do have.
[4:12:15] So we understand the 2.6 that have been budget previously
[4:12:18] has been insufficient, because it just wasn't a way
[4:12:24] to kickstart enterprise for it.
[4:12:27] So one thing that we have been doing
[4:12:29] and consider for instance,
[4:12:31] we are switching our ticketing from first ticks
[4:12:35] to Ticketmaster.
[4:12:37] We understand that in itself is huge.
[4:12:40] When it comes to identifying shows and acts in the region,
[4:12:44] we believe that's going to be a game changer.
[4:12:48] Teeer ticketing, multi-year promoter agreements,
[4:12:51] clear revenue, risk sharing,
[4:12:53] structures, sponsorships,
[4:12:55] being intentional about those things,
[4:12:57] making sure that 40% of the Ticket sales
[4:13:00] and Ticket's cover all the calls of the amphitheater
[4:13:03] why we are looking at the other 60% as revenue.
[4:13:07] So just different models in itself,
[4:13:08] in that way, and just approach to it,
[4:13:10] we believe that we're getting more momentum
[4:13:13] than we had before, just change in the model.
[4:13:25] We are being very intentional about the acts
[4:13:27] and things that we bring in back.
[4:13:29] We looked at historical things.
[4:13:30] Some shows that's rare, successful.
[4:13:32] We looked at things that in the area,
[4:13:35] doing samples and looking at different recommendations.
[4:13:39] And we came up with a proposed list for 2026, just based off the responses and things that
[4:13:44] we get and we believe that if we bring in the right people and market it well, align
[4:13:51] ourselves with great marketers and the industry that we can get to where we try to go.
[4:13:57] Marketing killed us, our approach to it and being intentional and getting follow up on what
[4:14:02] numbers look like. We believe now that we have a definitely a plan for that when it comes to marketing
[4:14:10] and getting the word out and getting the community involved in that. That's a big approach that
[4:14:15] we're taking this year that we believe will have tremendous return back on that. Just break down if we
[4:14:21] talk a look at the actual breakdown of 3600 seats, that aperture that's in there, it removes 225 seats.
[4:14:29] So right now we are investing in air and removing that so we moving that area lower so that the audio and the production thing is lower and it's it's level set with the seat so that we can open up additional 250 seats.
[4:14:44] Through the last rental that we had that was a big big thing and that's another reason why I didn't so a lot because of the tent that we had that block the view on scrub the view.
[4:14:53] So that in itself, add and know the additional 250 seats is game-changer.
[4:14:58] So a small thing is a scene small.
[4:15:00] On the surface, but it's a huge return when we talk about the approach that we're trying to do this
[4:15:05] particular year and trying to bring in some of those revenues, sponsorships, things of that
[4:15:09] nature and getting the word out. Once again, we talk about, hey, why are people not hearing
[4:15:14] about us? If people don't understand it, you're not reaching those audience by being on those platforms
[4:15:19] that market concerts and things of that nature, you'd never reach the level to enterprise. And we just
[4:15:25] that those different measures that we're talking about,
[4:15:27] this year's system, changing our ticketing system,
[4:15:31] bringing in real good sponsorships, partnerships,
[4:15:35] that long-term investments, just like we did with Vastar,
[4:15:38] we think is a definitely way to go to bring in
[4:15:40] some of that revenue that we're talking about.
[4:15:44] So that's just kind of the approach that we was thinking about,
[4:15:47] looking at doing the numbers, crunching the numbers,
[4:15:50] and saying that, hey, we do this model right here.
[4:15:52] This is the return that we anticipate to get.
[4:15:55] just by this particular model.
[4:15:58] So we talked to every scenario, once again,
[4:16:02] I only could go by what stuff that we do have
[4:16:07] of Illinois in regards to finance.
[4:16:09] I've been working closely with Mr. Malazzi
[4:16:11] on trying to find them additional funding,
[4:16:13] but we just believe with this method right here
[4:16:16] where we at right now can do it.
[4:16:19] And once again, there's just something
[4:16:20] that we never done before, but once again,
[4:16:23] is trying to do something different
[4:16:25] that we never done before to get a better return back.
[4:16:28] But once again, if that's the wish of the council,
[4:16:32] we go back to the drawing board and figure that out.
[4:16:34] I'll say before you mention about the production set,
[4:16:37] the production sound team and lower and everything.
[4:16:41] I'm assuming, well, not sure to assume.
[4:16:44] I mean, I think along the lines that ACRUS will come
[4:16:48] and book before, so I'm assuming that I go assuming again,
[4:16:51] that you would go down to get the right folks, I guess, to reduce it or shrink it to or whatever
[4:17:00] in the case, because shrink is struck. Since they built it for us, I would imagine they have
[4:17:03] all the right personnel or contacts to do that with. Right, we had a couple of engineers and
[4:17:10] people come out and look at it and they thought, hey, digging down versus up is the best course
[4:17:15] of action. Of course there are some issues talking about the runoff, looking at the different
[4:17:19] and that we have. But we believe the amount of that we're going to invest in doing that one
[4:17:24] particular change would be a good return because you opened up an additional 250 seats. So
[4:17:30] that's a big thing. Also the Rimmons, we was renting equipment every single show instead of owning
[4:17:37] that equipment. So that's a huge turnaround as well because when we talking about the 360 model
[4:17:41] that we are proposing, which opens it up to other venues, renting it out for graduations,
[4:17:48] different organization, have innate,
[4:17:51] they official events here is what we're marketing.
[4:17:54] There's a demand for it right now.
[4:17:56] Atlanta's over saturated with area and space.
[4:17:59] People are looking for different venues to rent out.
[4:18:01] So that's a different model that we look at as well.
[4:18:03] But we have to own the stuff that we've been renting,
[4:18:06] which is a lot of money just in rentals year after year.
[4:18:09] We bought it 10 times over.
[4:18:11] So this time, we just trying to do something different
[4:18:12] and looking at the expenses and things that we have
[4:18:15] money on and saying, let's invest it, let's buy it, and then just make that a part of
[4:18:19] packet. So when people do rent it out, it's a package deal. And it's a return on your investment.
[4:18:26] So the equipment that you need, we need to buy. It's not part of this potential 45. No, we have it in the
[4:18:31] budget and this budget as well. Okay. All right. Not a part of the three million. We have a maintenance budget.
[4:18:39] when infrastructure and building correct.
[4:18:43] I'm sorry, back up.
[4:18:45] I was going to ask was this strictly operation.
[4:18:48] Right, this right here, yes.
[4:18:51] Yeah, no, I'm no confused right now.
[4:18:54] I thought you talked about originally 3 million,
[4:18:56] but what we've been recently discussing
[4:18:58] five needs to be something similar to what had happened last year
[4:19:02] by 45, by 4.5 million, I thought.
[4:19:06] That's why I thought I heard.
[4:19:09] Yes. So if this is operation, what is the line I'm or the, and similar, my God, what is the
[4:19:16] line item for the andcillary materials? Billionate maintenance facility. Okay. Yeah,
[4:19:23] because we understand that, of course, it requires upgrades. I'll offer facilities required
[4:19:28] that maintenance upgrades. So we did look at the calls that it would calls to kind of do some
[4:19:33] minor adjustments and upgrades and that, and that's going to be a part of it. Outside of this
[4:19:38] million, which is strictly operating calls for that.
[4:19:43] You keep saying three million here. We need four, four, five.
[4:19:49] But let me just say this, we want to set the target.
[4:19:55] But the one thing that we've been missing, I don't know.
[4:19:58] Do we need to put our RLP out for somebody to define a sponsor?
[4:20:02] With the great press and everything that we have gotten for this facility.
[4:20:07] And the type I asked that we came in, we should have a multitude of sponsors for this event.
[4:20:15] And then I think even for the city events team, we need to have somebody out there working on sponsorships because we're not getting it done.
[4:20:24] I'm sorry, we're not.
[4:20:26] Somebody should have their name on the Fourth of July event with 10,000 people.
[4:20:30] If we talk to the right people, somebody will put their name on their 10th house.
[4:20:34] Somebody will put their name on Bridge Fist, right?
[4:20:38] These Juneteenth, I honestly say,
[4:20:42] despite starting out with Councilman Thomas and the council we had with the previous administration,
[4:20:46] to bring it from the part to the amphitheater.
[4:20:51] That is one of the best Juneteenth events in the country.
[4:20:57] somebody will sponsor that. All of it, not us. And that's what a key is going to be
[4:21:03] right there. So, and that was, I think, was the biggest downfall in our previous model
[4:21:08] is that we had tried to do this one shop, stop shop thing, where the one person will
[4:21:14] or the organization was in charge of everything, including marketing, marketing with the
[4:21:19] ticket master will be better. But we need to have a dedicated organization out there chasing
[4:21:24] down sponsorships for us, maybe they get paid on part of the sponsorships that they bring
[4:21:29] in.
[4:21:30] But the sponsorship money is the big ex that's missing from the quotient and I'll assure you
[4:21:36] those dollars are out there, especially with all the employees that we're bringing the
[4:21:40] town.
[4:21:41] And the one thing that I would like to see is do, and then as I see Clayton County doing it all
[4:21:45] the time, I see Clayton County government and the Jonesboro Ampathy at a working together
[4:21:52] all the time.
[4:21:53] that's the relationship that we need to get going with Henry County. So the Henry County is having
[4:21:58] shows at the amphitheater as well through the IGA agreement and then partnering with us because
[4:22:07] the tourism benefits all of us, not just the city of Stockbridge. So those relationships need to happen.
[4:22:14] So whatever we need to do to make that happen but I'm committed tonight, we're not leaving here
[4:22:18] three million dollar budget after we've been failed at 2.6 which is so close. We got to have
[4:22:25] an adequate budget to make that happen.
[4:22:31] Mr. Emerson, look to choose Mr. Frank, so I don't know. You need something you need to add.
[4:22:37] I called me to speak, so I'm going to speak. Excuse me? He asked me to speak.
[4:22:41] Yeah, just so. I'm thinking where to start from.
[4:22:45] He's breaking one out.
[4:22:47] I'm thinking where to start from.
[4:22:49] You know, you got one word after another.
[4:22:53] That's what?
[4:22:54] So, three million out of the three million that he proposed.
[4:23:00] With the 4003 million, that means the amphitheater was generated to 2.1 million
[4:23:10] plus 84,
[4:23:13] it was coming to 3 million total, which you are saying is not realistic seeing with what
[4:23:20] has happened, it will not be.
[4:23:24] That means the general fund has to come up with the 2.3.
[4:23:30] Our request, this is my suggestion, our request, you approve the budget as it is, with your intention to go to 4.25, then let him rework massage, where to move money to make up for that difference of 1.5, because now we are short of 1.5.
[4:23:55] And the mind that they have now, if he was asking for the E, definitely by the need of the E, he will still have that.
[4:24:06] But I think it will take time to sit down and see how we can move money because we are not increasing revenues.
[4:24:14] They have to come from general find to find that.
[4:24:17] Okay, so if we haven't agreed that perhaps we agreed to you will set we have to have another form of meeting to make the adjustment or not
[4:24:25] We have to see where to move money to make up for that one point because as you say, it's not realistic 3 million
[4:24:34] With the standard that you want, but you have to give up something to come up with so it will be priorities that he has to
[4:24:43] which other projects can be delayed or where he can move some money to make up for that.
[4:24:52] We should also bring it to my point again to do that.
[4:24:55] I will say we will have to have some of our special called mean to see that.
[4:24:59] No, you pass this.
[4:25:01] You pass.
[4:25:02] You have to pass.
[4:25:02] If that's a disaster.
[4:25:04] Yeah, yeah.
[4:25:05] You pass this one.
[4:25:06] Because what you have is the more than half a year of the entire project.
[4:25:12] So, what you are looking for is an additional 1.5 million to finish the whole fiscal year.
[4:25:20] Okay.
[4:25:20] To make it 5.4.5.
[4:25:24] But with the understanding that this budget will be changed to make it to 4.5.
[4:25:34] Right.
[4:25:34] Because as of now, I'm sure you will not have that available money, because we have to give up something.
[4:25:44] All right. Well, okay.
[4:25:49] With the understanding that that three is not enough.
[4:25:53] We need additional.
[4:25:56] So if we pass that one, that means we are passing and balanced budget.
[4:26:01] Because we have expenses that are,
[4:26:03] but we don't have corresponding revenues.
[4:26:06] Okay, let me ask you this. What about the money that we had discussed
[4:26:10] about the hotel hotel tax money that's coming in?
[4:26:13] that's my point of can you hold on on this so we can
[4:26:20] but we don't want to get in a position where we're doing a budget amendment again in 2020
[4:26:25] what is it we will budget amendment you have to do it
[4:26:29] you have to even this 2025 come January 5th bro you have to do it
[4:26:34] okay so what you're saying is understanding we pass in a budget
[4:26:39] As is at his balance was certainly will be endeavored of looking for that additional funding to go to it
[4:26:46] With understanding we're going to go and the messages clear. We're going to endeavor to get to 4.5 and the city manager is going to be looking for the additional funding
[4:26:56] Whether that be the special service district whether that be the other income from hotel
[4:27:03] The multils, because we had several hotels come along, so that numbers should definitely
[4:27:07] be going up.
[4:27:09] So hotel motel has got three sources of expenses and our hotel motel revenues are growing
[4:27:19] up.
[4:27:20] For instance, now we have budgeted 400 and 24,000 to go to general fund.
[4:27:27] But in actual sense we are going to expect not less than 900,000.
[4:27:31] Now, you may wonder, where does it go?
[4:27:38] So, general fund has a portion of that 8%.
[4:27:43] Then we have to give it to chamber,
[4:27:46] hand recount chamber,
[4:27:48] then we have to give it to,
[4:27:52] to our development within our city.
[4:27:55] So those are the three.
[4:27:58] So until you decide to say that we are going to have
[4:28:01] or on board here, that means you don't have to send that money to Chamber.
[4:28:08] But until that one is put in place, we'll still continue sending that money.
[4:28:14] And over the years, we have not been neutralizing for tourists here.
[4:28:20] So we have in general any reserve over 2 million that we have to take it to general fund.
[4:28:29] That has been over the years, they have not been accounted for, so that one has to come to general fund.
[4:28:36] Now, when it comes to general fund, you have to decide, it's general fund, what do we do with this one?
[4:28:42] We need to be, but we have to follow procedures, that man is there. We're going to move it.
[4:28:52] So we have additional funding coming, we just gotta move it.
[4:28:55] general fund, but you have to decide what to do with it. But that's one area, I'm saying they will be something.
[4:29:03] Okay, so we just basically, we should have it, we just gotta do amendments.
[4:29:10] We have to do the amendment.
[4:29:12] I don't think he will have finished it.
[4:29:15] I'm afraid that by March, come March, I don't think he will have finished that.
[4:29:19] of remedial. We do budget amendment whenever there is more revenues or less revenues so
[4:29:28] that at least it's in balance. You can do as many, there's no limitation of budget
[4:29:33] amendment, but if you do as many times as that means that lack of branding at the same
[4:29:39] time. So at least minimum of two budget amendments, but you can do as many as you can.
[4:29:46] OK, all right, thank you.
[4:29:47] Ms. Barbara Glick, please.
[4:29:50] I am trying to wrap my mind around the discussion
[4:29:53] that we're having regarding the amphitheater and funding
[4:29:57] in at the start of this meeting.
[4:30:00] We talked about funding for a new park in soccer fields.
[4:30:07] We didn't look or dig to find money for the soccer fields.
[4:30:13] Instead, it was suggested that we'd bond the money, bond the money to complete these capital improvement projects.
[4:30:20] But yet, right now, we have all these discussions about how we're going to fund the operations of the amphitheater.
[4:30:28] That's wasting money.
[4:30:32] It is wasteful spending a much rather $4.5 million go towards this new park and the existing
[4:30:41] parks.
[4:30:42] Not to fund again the operations of the amphibierter.
[4:30:48] In 2021, I brought to the table a major name right sponsor, who was willing to pay for all
[4:30:56] of the upfront cost, including paying for the cost of the artists, paying for the speakers
[4:31:03] and lighting and sound, and all of the things that we needed for the operations. Not one
[4:31:10] dime would have come from the city. However, my council mates didn't want to proceed with
[4:31:15] the negotiations. They'd much rather use the tax dollars to fund the operations. It makes
[4:31:23] No sense. We are amannisapald. We're government entity. We are not a nightclub. We're not a business
[4:31:31] either. I am bothered because not only are these text dollars from residents, it's my money too.
[4:31:41] And that is not how I want to spend my money. I'd much rather see us execute the master trail plan
[4:31:48] that was one of the priorities that I had when I first got on the Council in 2020, not one trail has been put together since the end, but we have wasted year over year since 2022, millions, not hundreds, not thousands, millions of dollars, every year on the operations of this amphitheater, absolutely as gross mismanagement.
[4:32:19] I want to be real clear about how I see
[4:32:22] my fiduciary responsibilities as an elected official
[4:32:25] and a member of the governing body.
[4:32:28] While I cannot and will not speak for the other members
[4:32:30] of the council, what I will say is that I take the budget
[4:32:34] adoption and adhere into the city's approved operating
[4:32:37] budget very seriously.
[4:32:40] Equally, I take the city's charter seriously as well.
[4:32:44] Residents of our city are not looking for handouts.
[4:32:47] They're looking for an equitable return on their investment of their tax dollars.
[4:32:53] The arrogance in the lack of care and concern that has been exhibited as a governing body
[4:32:59] has made decisions that have benefited the very few, rather than the collective as something
[4:33:04] that we all would have to answer for.
[4:33:07] That's why I've been asking questions since I was sworn in, and six years later, I have
[4:33:13] I understand the way that the responsibilities that my position carries.
[4:33:18] I understand that my role is to save money, cut cost, not waste more money.
[4:33:25] As elected officials, we each took an oath to act in the best interest of our city
[4:33:30] and to provide oversight of each in every taxpayer dollar that comes in and goes out.
[4:33:37] The governing body approved a finance policy and agreed to follow the processes and procedures in that policy.
[4:33:46] And we unanimously agreed to a two-to-three-year plan to follow the recommendations by the city treasurer and the city's financial advisor to rebuild the city's fund balance.
[4:33:58] our savings account. I hope that the governing body will fulfill its obligation and to not use the city's
[4:34:06] fund balance or general funds, except in only in case of emergencies. On October 28th of this year, the city manager
[4:34:16] to request to add new positions and reclassify current positions with new titles and pay
[4:34:22] grains.
[4:34:24] The city's chart of section 3.04-060 requires that when a new position is created, the
[4:34:32] ordinance shall include the new job description, a new paying and classification, and a new
[4:34:39] organizational chart, including the new and reclassified positions on October 28.
[4:34:45] None of those documents were included and presented to the governing body as required.
[4:34:51] I opposed the vote to approve the new and reclassified positions, not because I disagreed
[4:34:57] with the positions, but my opposition referenced the charter, which requires those documents
[4:35:03] and they had not been included.
[4:35:07] Members of the governing body should also question why the documents were not attached.
[4:35:12] Members of the governing body should also question while the city's legal council did not advise on the requirement of those specific documents.
[4:35:21] This is not the first incident of when new positions are reclassified positions have been created.
[4:35:28] So there is a history of adhering to the process and the charter by doing it this way, the right way.
[4:35:35] On November 10th, the city manager presented the first reading of the F-Li2026 operating budget and capital improvement plan.
[4:35:44] The mayor opened the public hearing portion of the meeting and members of the council gave their input and responses to the budget that was presented.
[4:35:54] I read a statement into the record where I made it known that I had gone through every single line item of the proposed budget.
[4:36:02] What was missing from the first reading of the proposed budget was funding for the amphitheater.
[4:36:08] There required job descriptions, paying classification, and city organizational chart for the new and reclassified positions.
[4:36:17] Making the budget as presented in complete.
[4:36:22] A question several budget line items and various departmental budget amounts.
[4:36:26] I also recommended that the Council adopt an ordinance regarding the use of contingency funds which are only to be used in the event of an emergency such as a natural disaster.
[4:36:40] The mayor and members of the Council did not support moving forward with the approval of a contingency fund ordinance that night and said that our city's legal council needs to review and bring back an ordinance.
[4:36:54] I forwarded my email to all members of the governing body, the city's legal council, the city manager, city treasurer, and the city clerk.
[4:37:03] To date, the city's legal council has not prepared an ordinance for contingency funds.
[4:37:10] Nor have I received a response following their review.
[4:37:14] On November 17, 2025, city staff submitted some, but not all of the documents that I requested.
[4:37:22] During the November 10th meeting, City staff submitted some, but not all of the job descriptions for the new-
[4:37:30] We created and reclassified positions. City staff submitted an incomplete paying classification and responded to some, but not all of the questions and concerns that I raised regarding the FY-2026 budget.
[4:37:46] During the second reading of the proposed FY2026 budget on November 18, again, I requested that all job descriptions, the paying classification, or organizational chart,
[4:38:00] be attached to the budget as required by the charter section 3.04-06-one.
[4:38:08] I requested the amphitheater marketing plan, the sponsorship plan to understand the next steps,
[4:38:14] to offset costs associated with the concerts and free city events as was discussed during
[4:38:21] their retreat. I also requested the building maintenance plan for the Merrill Manters Conference Center
[4:38:27] to understand the necessary steps to increase revenues as discussed during the budget retreat.
[4:38:33] I asked for an update to the Assistant Public Works Director position as it relates to the engineering services as discussed during a retreat, along with other documents and questions relating to the proposed FY2026 budget.
[4:38:50] I specifically asked during the November 18 meeting if the documents were attached as requested.
[4:39:00] We're talking about the budget, we're going down this list that has nothing to do with the budget.
[4:39:06] We're talking about the 2026 budget, how much money we're going to spend.
[4:39:11] This documentation trail has nothing to do with what we're talking about tonight.
[4:39:16] We're talking about the system, the director of the public works and back in November.
[4:39:21] we're talking about the 2026 budget, what we're going to do to move forward. Now, as a rule, we have five minutes to speak on any topic for any subject.
[4:39:32] How much time does Ms. Barbernee, we're not going to sit here all night?
[4:39:37] How long, how much is it? How long is it?
[4:39:39] Oh, anybody else?
[4:39:40] I'll tell you my second. Okay. Well, I'll tell you what, what I understand that these
[4:39:45] parties conversations deal with positions that are in new positions that are in this 2020.
[4:39:50] And if that's the credit, there's still somewhat budget related, that's where I look at it.
[4:39:54] So I'm a letter to continue on, and then we'll get some other time to speak additionally if you need to do so.
[4:40:00] Thank you.
[4:40:01] Okay.
[4:40:02] I specifically asked during the November 18th meeting, if the documents were attached as requested,
[4:40:08] and it was confirmed that they were included in the governing bodies,
[4:40:12] agenda books and agenda binders. However, all of the requested documents and responses were not included
[4:40:19] and had not been submitted. When I said to that the information was not there, I was attacked.
[4:40:25] As you see, I was attacked by Councilman Alexander for asking the city manager to respond to the
[4:40:31] budget questions raised. And I was attacked by Mayor Pro Tim Gantt, who insisted that the
[4:40:37] had been submitted by staff and was included in the agenda.
[4:40:42] Folks, and it was.
[4:40:44] Mayor, Mayor Potein, got accused me of not reading the information prior to the meetings.
[4:40:50] She accused me of gas lighting.
[4:40:52] For asking questions of staff and she again violated the city's
[4:40:58] code of conduct when she called me crazy, which can be clearly heard
[4:41:02] on the mic during our public meeting.
[4:41:04] What is interesting is whenever I bring up questions regarding the amphitheater, funding of the amphitheater, putting the amphitheater services out for bid, or turning the amphitheater over to a third party management company, these two council members become argumentative and want to shut me down for simply asking questions.
[4:41:26] down, we were running on the
[4:41:27] wall, during the budget retreat
[4:41:28] in making Mayor, Palit爾
[4:41:30] Santander, where she called
[4:41:34] me a bitch, during the
[4:41:36] Pupport of word,
[4:41:37] quote,
[4:41:38] it is.
[4:41:38] with all the words,
[4:41:41] contact,
[4:41:42] relax for you, please
[4:41:45] with the bombs,
[4:41:45] we'll be back,
[4:41:47] we'll be back,
[4:41:49] Edmonton,
[4:41:50] we'll be back,
[4:41:51] if you get in the comments
[4:41:51] and I'll tell you
[4:41:53] how I'm listening to
[4:41:55] she called me, but I will refrain from using profanity. Thank you, sir.
[4:42:00] I've got to be good. Thank you. During the budget retreat and making Mayor
[4:42:04] Pro Tim Gantt also violated the city's code of conduct when she called me the
[4:42:08] be word during the public meeting. Of course, the conversation was about
[4:42:12] empathy at a funding during the budget retreat and September of this year. Mayor
[4:42:17] Pro Tim Gantt again. The water. We're supposed to tell our fellow council members
[4:42:23] Your conversation is saying. We're not supposed to do that. We're not supposed to attack our fellow member that part of what we're doing
[4:42:30] These are codocunded by like we're not supposed to be attacking each other up here
[4:42:34] That's wrong. Talk about the budget. Don't talk about Ms. Gett. Don't talk about me talk about the budget. Therefore, nothing is please
[4:42:42] They have an estimate a point which is remembering from mentioning other council members are attacking other council members
[4:42:49] Those are codocunded by like I understand it, but that goes for everybody
[4:42:53] It goes for everybody across the board.
[4:42:55] Okay.
[4:42:56] During the budgetary treatment,
[4:42:57] September of this year,
[4:42:59] Mayor Proton Gantt once again violated the Code of Conduct
[4:43:02] when the conversation centered around the amphitheater funding
[4:43:05] and the operations.
[4:43:07] She called me the B-word for the second time
[4:43:09] during a public meeting.
[4:43:11] There was no consequences for any of these Code of Conduct
[4:43:14] violations.
[4:43:15] Even after I reported it to the mayor
[4:43:18] and the city's legal counsel
[4:43:21] Our turning Washington, I'm requesting an investigation of all three of these incidents where
[4:43:27] Mayor Proteem Gantt violated the code of conduct with name calling in public meetings with
[4:43:34] action to be taken by the governing body.
[4:43:38] The next day, after the last meeting of the governing body, on November 19, the mayor and
[4:43:44] council received a series of emails from city staff that included attachments and documents
[4:43:50] that two members of the council and the city manager had said the night before that the documents were in the council agenda books and binders.
[4:43:59] There were no explanations or apologies for their false accusations towards me during the last meeting of the council.
[4:44:07] Following the second reading of the proposed budget, I asked for clarification on additional budget line items and again requested all job descriptions.
[4:44:16] The play and class of the order mayor and the original chart as a fire point. I said an email to the entire
[4:44:24] You have let a loud man for a member Barbara to go far beyond the scope of what my budget here
[4:44:32] Now understand she has every I will make a motion to in her comments, but she is what she is what
[4:44:39] far beyond the scope, and it's pinpointing different things, and no one, I'm not here to
[4:44:47] say any of her actions, but the video tapes will speak for themselves, and I'm not here
[4:44:52] to defend any actions. I'm very confident in that. I know the law, and I'm very old.
[4:45:00] Where I'm actually shot that she would even have something to say at this point, but this is about our budget.
[4:45:08] So I make a motion that we end Councilwoman Barber's speech or her testimony in regards to her
[4:45:29] expressing her feelings and I'm not trying to be funny, but you know it's 1037 tonight and we
[4:45:39] need to talk specifically about the budget. And so therefore I make a motion that we stop
[4:45:48] the comments of Councilwoman Barbara if you look at the roles and regulations in our resolution
[4:45:55] After so many minutes of speaking she's had well over her time and my time and the whole council's time at this point
[4:46:04] Seconds a second the motion because the rules have been
[4:46:10] Seconds the most it's all favorite most in it. Please. I'm sorry. Please allow me to finish
[4:46:17] Okay, okay, I'll pose
[4:46:21] The motion does not pass the motion does not pass
[4:46:25] Hold on a second.
[4:46:27] What's the best?
[4:46:28] What's the best?
[4:46:29] Well, well, well, well, well, well, I actually only two votes for the most.
[4:46:33] I have that in a row.
[4:46:35] What's the best?
[4:46:35] The most unfair.
[4:46:36] No.
[4:46:38] Is it two?
[4:46:39] You don't need to vote.
[4:46:41] Thank you, Mayor Ford.
[4:46:43] Is it?
[4:46:43] If I may start.
[4:46:45] Make sure.
[4:46:46] In two.
[4:46:47] Specifically.
[4:46:48] Mayor Ford.
[4:46:49] So what?
[4:46:50] What?
[4:46:51] But I am going to finish my statement.
[4:46:53] But now, sir, I think you are being unfair and unreasonable because every member of this council gets to speak freely with no interruptions.
[4:47:06] I sat here, I sat here as those two down there with back and forth, making their comments, having discussions with staff, I sat nothing.
[4:47:16] I want to finish all of my comments because everything that I am reading here happened during the public meetings and public hearings regarding the budget adoption.
[4:47:30] Mayor Lord.
[4:47:31] I don't need any more of order.
[4:47:33] I'm trying to dictate to me.
[4:47:35] We're talking about the
[4:47:39] Numbers on the budget
[4:47:41] Not they are
[4:47:42] of what has taken place
[4:47:46] And we have taken the mayor has given my actual video we come up
[4:47:55] Follow in the second
[4:47:58] Ask for clarification on
[4:48:01] Additional budget line items and again requested all job descriptions
[4:48:05] the paying classification and the organizational chart as required.
[4:48:10] I sent an e-mail to the entire governing body,
[4:48:13] the city's legal counsel, city manager, city treasurer, and city clerk.
[4:48:18] On Friday, December 5th, at 1048 PM, some, but not all of the information
[4:48:26] was e-mailed to the governing body with a final reading and adoption on Monday.
[4:48:31] This is exactly why I make my comments and request publicly.
[4:48:37] Coincidentally or not, the job description for the new event's director position was
[4:48:43] not submitted.
[4:48:44] Why is that?
[4:48:46] I have been publicly requesting monthly, quarterly, and semi-annual financials since 2022,
[4:48:53] because I knew the math was a math thing.
[4:48:56] Two members of the Council and former Council member directed the former City Manager
[4:49:00] the time, the email not to release financial information to me. It's on record. I had to use my own
[4:49:09] personal money to retain an attorney as a way to obtain information from our city, and I had to
[4:49:16] file a complaint with the Secretary of State's Office for a violation of the Open Records Act.
[4:49:22] When documents were not given to me as requested as an elected official. The operations of the
[4:49:29] the Interwent millions of dollars over budget in 2022, 2023, 2024, and 20, 25. I was
[4:49:40] sounding the alarm each of those years, and I'm sounding the alarm now. Our city spent
[4:49:46] nearly a million dollars of free events just last year, and it's proposing the same in
[4:49:54] 2026 budget. Again, I am sounding the alarm. There is no municipality that will allow their
[4:50:03] city to repeatedly year after year go millions of dollars over budget, let alone over
[4:50:11] spin on free event and an amphitheater. It is wasteful spending and physically irresponsible.
[4:50:20] The governing body approved a city tax, and the residents were told that the city tax would be used to cover expenses associated with public safety and public works to cover the additional areas as a result of the 2023 annexation of approximately 6,700
[4:50:40] residents and businesses. However, we've been continuously spending millions of dollars
[4:50:47] over budget on free city events and the amphitheater every year since 2022. Not thousands,
[4:50:56] but millions. I have pleaded with the governing body and the city managers to outsource the
[4:51:03] operations of the amphitheater to a third party venue management company who would bear all of the
[4:51:11] calls to run the shows, including booking the artists, etc. And the city would receive a portion of the
[4:51:19] profits for each show. My repeated recommendation has fallen on deaf ears with a governing body who
[4:51:26] insist on maintaining control of the amphitheater by spending millions of tax dollars to fund the
[4:51:33] operations, even though we have in our face four solid years of overspending and losses.
[4:51:44] In 2024, we exceeded the approved budget by $32.9 million.
[4:51:49] City staff decided that although there was an overall budget of $43 million, a total overall
[4:51:58] $76 million was spent.
[4:52:00] City staff didn't come before the governing body to request an additional $32 million as required.
[4:52:08] During a public hearing where the full governing body would be present and a vote of approval was required.
[4:52:15] They just spent it on authorized and unapproved this year by a second quarter of this year.
[4:52:23] Mr. Malazi was given instructions to fund the remaining of the show.
[4:52:30] For this year, he did that an executive session. There is no vote of record of the council authorizing him to spend the money. Why? Because that was a decision that was made in executive session. Those are decisions that should be made right here in the public meeting. Not behind closed doors.
[4:52:54] Nobody was listening to me on the boardhorn as I was continuously sounding the alarm that something was not right with the finances.
[4:53:01] That $32.9 million should and should still be available in the different accounts that it was pulled from in Spain, but it's no longer there, and that is why there was a $32.9 million amendment.
[4:53:16] I'm trying to prevent that from happening to our city ever again.
[4:53:21] I hope that there would be a lesson learned in the members of the governing body.
[4:53:26] The leadership and the decision making of our city would question and pay attention
[4:53:31] There needs to be no one now for thirty minutes. We will be in the same 30 minutes. We've been with another budget of minutes
[4:53:40] I'm making them in another and another and another and another meeting until the well runs dry
[4:53:46] There are those who said that they don't want to say we're being sent back without their knowledge even though I'm
[4:53:56] You're making an emotion.
[4:53:57] Yes, we've been going on 30 minutes now.
[4:53:59] We're making an emotion too.
[4:54:00] I'm making an emotion to end these comments so we can move on with the meeting.
[4:54:06] We've been going on 30 minutes now.
[4:54:07] I'm by second.
[4:54:08] Now, we've been talking about a lot of stuff, but the budget has been plenty enough time to talk about the budget issue.
[4:54:14] But we've been talking about personnel issues.
[4:54:17] Throwing darts at everybody.
[4:54:19] I'm trying to end these comments and then move on with the meeting.
[4:54:23] You made a motion for that in a second. I'm very most pleased in the cake
[4:54:28] You got one page left
[4:54:32] Mayor for it. So that's that by the whole second. This is one of them. She said that 20 minutes ago. It had nothing to do with the budget.
[4:54:41] It's just constant.
[4:54:43] Now, this has been going on 30 minutes. We got a five minute
[4:54:47] this afternoon. Any one issue? Five minutes.
[4:54:50] Everybody on all 20 minutes.
[4:54:52] Five minutes down please.
[4:54:53] For the record, I am going to email this
[4:54:56] information. I'm going to email this statement because it is for the record.
[4:55:00] I'm sorry, Miss Holiday. I will email this statement just as I did with the other two
[4:55:05] to the full governing body, the city attorney, the city manager, the city
[4:55:09] the city clerk. I don't need a response for this. I want all of this on record.
[4:55:15] All right. If I can finish that without any interruptions from my council mates, I appreciate it.
[4:55:23] Who's there?
[4:55:23] What do you have left there?
[4:55:25] I'm sorry.
[4:55:25] What do you have left?
[4:55:26] I have a page and a half left.
[4:55:28] A page and a half left?
[4:55:31] And if you allow me to finish, I could have been finished by now.
[4:55:34] Hold on, please.
[4:55:35] So you realize, you realize you've been going, you have been going very long.
[4:55:40] I want to focus strictly on the budget now in this aspect, and this is all of this
[4:55:44] particular budget.
[4:55:46] Why don't you stand by, please?
[4:55:47] Why don't you just go ahead, since you're going to send it to everybody.
[4:55:50] Why don't you send it to everybody?
[4:55:51] Well, cease this now.
[4:55:52] We'll continue on any specific budget questions that anybody has in this more.
[4:55:56] Well, no, everything that I'm saying is in regards to the budget and the public, especially
[4:56:03] those who elected me to represent them. They want to hear what I have to say. So I think
[4:56:10] it is unfair that you would cut me off from speaking. Well, my truth, each of us get to speak
[4:56:17] for it. Whether or not you agree with me, that's one thing. This is not for a bone. This
[4:56:23] is me and my statements. My comment, if you allow me to finish our apology, you probably
[4:56:30] you won't hear from me for the rest of the night, but it just bothered me to hear, we make
[4:56:36] an all these concessions for the operation of the amphitheater, for the parts we got a barn
[4:56:41] for that.
[4:56:43] So, let me finish if you would, please, sir, with knowing our Russians, I have not interrupted
[4:56:50] anyone.
[4:56:52] I've been very respectful.
[4:56:54] I've been very respectful.
[4:56:55] And tell us where we could appreciate it.
[4:57:00] Yes.
[4:57:00] Now I don't know where I stopped.
[4:57:03] So I have to start.
[4:57:03] Go ahead.
[4:57:04] Let's go.
[4:57:06] Go ahead.
[4:57:07] Go ahead.
[4:57:09] Okay.
[4:57:09] There are those who said they didn't know the city's funds were being spent
[4:57:13] without their knowledge even though I was sounding the alarm and asking for financial reporting
[4:57:18] too many times to count and it has been suggested that I asked my questions and address my concerns
[4:57:24] behind the scenes, just as they're doing right now.
[4:57:28] Well, the behind-the-scenes conversations have cost us millions.
[4:57:32] The city has overspent over the approved budget for four consecutive years.
[4:57:37] This makes no sense.
[4:57:39] All discussions of funding sources such as
[4:57:42] Splost, T-Splost, General Fund,
[4:57:45] and other revenue streams should be discussed publicly,
[4:57:49] not behind closed doors in executive session
[4:57:51] or be a text message in emails, but I continue to raise questions and ask, raise concerns and ask questions publicly, I was censored.
[4:58:02] I was at Monnish because I was raising red flags, asking for a budget document, contracts, and other financial records during the public meetings, and email.
[4:58:11] No one listened. I was ignored and talked over with numerous attempts to drown me out so that you couldn't hear what was really happening.
[4:58:21] The truth has since unfolded and been brought to the forefront.
[4:58:26] Finally, however, the truth has not
[4:58:32] been a company by an apology.
[4:58:36] And further review and discussions by the governing body, this is public money.
[4:58:42] And whenever we talk about city funds, those conversations need to take place in the open for public knowledge.
[4:58:49] The governing body is fully aware of what happened as it relates to the 2024,
[4:58:55] 32.9 million dollar amendment and the previous years of millions of dollars of over spending.
[4:59:00] Our city went over budget in 2022, 2022, 2023, 2024, and 2025 over budget.
[4:59:10] Our city's ethics board recommended that an independent firm review the claims for
[4:59:14] their election of duties has a governing body acted on any of the ethics board recommendations.
[4:59:21] No, tonight this council is being asked to approve the 2026 budget for $34 million.
[4:59:27] City staff asked the Council to approve the budget at this time last year for $29 million.
[4:59:35] Tonight we have a $25 budget amendment that the Council approve for $8.8 million so far.
[4:59:43] So far.
[4:59:44] Staff has not provided all of the job descriptions and paying classification or a complete city
[4:59:51] organizational chart. There is still one job description that is missing and events director position.
[5:00:00] Missing. They have then three meetings in which I have asked for all the job descriptions for new and
[5:00:06] reclassified positions, including the paying class and the new positions of the events director, who
[5:00:13] will be responsible for overseeing the contractor who will manage all aspects of the operations
[5:00:19] of the amphitheater. It has not been submitted prior to the meeting tonight. Why, as it being
[5:00:25] with hailed. Members of the Council should be asking that question too. My request tonight
[5:00:31] are not complicated. There needs to be proper reporting of spending and oversight by the
[5:00:36] governing body frequently. Turn the amphitheater over to a third party being a management
[5:00:42] company who has a capital to cover the cost of operations of the venue at a hundred percent
[5:00:48] without relying on taxpayer dollars to subsidize the operations. Reduce the budget for free
[5:00:55] city events. Ensures sufficient funds are available to complete the downtown utility relocation
[5:01:02] project. Allocate adequate funding to the Rockquare Road Extension Project. Ensures sufficient
[5:01:09] funds are available to complete the way finding project. Ensure adequate funding is available to execute
[5:01:16] the master trail plan. Ensure adequate funding is available to execute the parts master plan.
[5:01:22] We need an update to the Capital Improvement Plan and the LCI-List.
[5:01:28] Those dates and projects need to be updated.
[5:01:32] What we have in our books is not accurate.
[5:01:37] Currently, the priorities of our city are not adequately reflected in the budget.
[5:01:43] Also, the governing body should pass an ordinance for the city's contingency fund.
[5:01:48] are sharing those fines while only being used in an emergency as I mentioned on November 10.
[5:01:54] The governing body should provide copper oversight and must fulfill our fiduciary responsibilities
[5:02:00] as we swore to when we took the oath of office.
[5:02:03] When the budget is approved and adopted, that amount is what staff should adhere to.
[5:02:09] Of course there may be a need to make adjustments that happen, but never again should overspending
[5:02:15] being in excess of millions of dollars, millions of dollars.
[5:02:20] This is not just a couple of hundred thousand millions of dollars that is being overspent.
[5:02:28] Now, my watch, I'm not going to just sit here and act like this is just okay.
[5:02:35] It's okay for us to continue having budget amendments in regards to the operations of the
[5:02:41] theater. That is not a priority of our city. What is
[5:02:45] priority are the services that we're supposed to be providing the residents.
[5:02:53] I will continue
[5:02:53] to ask for documents and it is my right and my responsibility. Remember, members of the
[5:03:00] governing body must allow staff to do their jobs without interference and without fear of losing
[5:03:06] their jobs. Simply because they are choosing to do what is right. And staff needs to do
[5:03:12] job they've been hired to do. Our city will be better for it. Based on my GMA training,
[5:03:19] if the council does not approve and adopt the budget tonight, it's not a big deal. Our city
[5:03:25] will just continue operating using the 2025 budget until a new budget is adopted.
[5:03:42] Is that correct,
[5:03:43] 25 budget, as we have made it, we have made it because some of the run out of money.
[5:03:49] So until there is funding,
[5:03:53] it may be very difficult or almost impossible to provide some services.
[5:03:58] I would really urge you to approve the budget and make some changes that ever may be applicable.
[5:04:06] That's the reason why I requested General Fund is balanced.
[5:04:10] They probably need a bit to other funds, approve the budget.
[5:04:15] Additions reduction can be done there after.
[5:04:18] Well, I will support approving the FY2026 balance budget
[5:04:25] as it has been presented in the amount of $34 million, $768.
[5:04:35] $768 and $690.
[5:04:39] That's a general fund, that's a general fund.
[5:04:41] $3,476, $8,690.
[5:04:44] When all of the required documents are provided,
[5:04:46] part of the city's charter when adopting a budget.
[5:04:49] If there are any changes made to this budget,
[5:04:51] it should not exceed $34 million, $768,690.
[5:04:57] The bottom line is the general fund
[5:05:00] remain as it has been presented. All of the added positions requested by Mr.
[5:05:06] Ednison are not included in this budget.
[5:05:10] They are included.
[5:05:12] They are included. Well, what about the events director position?
[5:05:19] He requested that before before the budget.
[5:05:24] It was part of the positions that he requested.
[5:05:27] But the requirements, the charter is fact that it's fact that it's fact that in the general fund.
[5:05:36] I'm sorry.
[5:05:38] Those positions are fact that in the general fund.
[5:05:41] Okay, so you've funded the positions even though the process wasn't followed.
[5:05:46] But you approved the position before the budget was even presented.
[5:05:51] Those positions he presented to them.
[5:05:54] You approve, you approve, they can't approve, they can't approve, they can't approve.
[5:05:58] The council approves those positions, yes.
[5:06:02] Without the paying class for all of the positions.
[5:06:06] There are some that have been added now that is to do with public works.
[5:06:12] They have come, they were not, they were not part of that.
[5:06:14] That's public works, they were not part of that.
[5:06:17] But if you remember he presented those requests before the budget was presented.
[5:06:27] So, not approving the budget.
[5:06:32] Well, thank you, sir.
[5:06:37] Okay, so then the purchase of vehicles.
[5:06:40] I see that there is...
[5:06:43] The vehicles were approved by council during their retreat.
[5:06:47] What was remaining was funding.
[5:06:50] And we talked about the funding that there was a source of funding.
[5:06:55] And the vehicles are not for 20 to 26.
[5:06:57] The vehicles will be for 20 to 25.
[5:07:01] They will be bought in this year.
[5:07:03] For 20 to 26 or 25.
[5:07:05] 25.
[5:07:07] So they shouldn't be in the budget.
[5:07:10] Now, the council agreed to purchase four vehicles,
[5:07:14] which will replace all the vehicles to four explorers.
[5:07:18] Correct.
[5:07:18] And adding a passenger bayonet.
[5:07:21] A large SUV.
[5:07:23] There are four cancer vehicles. You have the 15th city of the vehicle. You have the
[5:07:30] Sobaba, you have two explorers.
[5:07:36] At first, you said the unit, you needed the taro, but taro is more than the subaba.
[5:07:42] Well, we just said four vehicles, including a large SUV and passenger van. This is one to add that to the governing body's fleet.
[5:07:58] the city council agreed to purchase four vehicles which were replaced the older vehicles
[5:08:03] correct which is two four explorers yes and adding a passenger band and a large
[5:08:09] SUV to the governing body's fleet the larger the SUV is the suburb and suburb and then the
[5:08:17] 15 set that's when we have youth council we have to we have to book for them so if you
[5:08:25] We can use it and because if you are traveling as a group, you can use the 15-seat.
[5:08:32] Now, it was said that we would transfer the vehicles that are being replaced to other departments.
[5:08:38] One being mainstream.
[5:08:39] I support moving the other vehicles to event, but I don't support purchasing another $60,000 vehicle.
[5:08:47] When we already have a vehicle that can be transferred, once the new vehicles are received.
[5:08:52] This is 60,000, that's for the event.
[5:08:55] Right. They have money, I think. But the actual, that this city manager can address that.
[5:09:04] The four vehicles that the council has already approved and agreed on,
[5:09:12] the new vehicles
[5:09:13] that we get, the older ones, we had agreed that one would go to events, one would go to Main Street.
[5:09:21] So I just want to make sure that we're not just, every department is just buying vehicles,
[5:09:29] just whatever, when we already had a plan and agreement on how we were going to do this.
[5:09:35] I asked because I noticed that the Ford Explorer, that the city manager drive still doesn't
[5:09:39] have a city decals and it's, he can, if that vehicle, what was that man I didn't cast it?
[5:09:46] the city's logo on it. And if that vehicle can be transferred to another department, I just
[5:09:54] don't understand why we need to buy another vehicle when the council is already addressed the
[5:10:03] need for vehicles in the governing body's fleet. So please help me understand why why we need
[5:10:13] another vehicle for events or a mainstream because it wasn't discussed during the
[5:10:22] budget retreat.
[5:10:27] You asked on the question, I mean, so the understanding for the
[5:10:32] governing body vehicles was these vehicles was dated and we need to turn
[5:10:36] those in and trade those in to get new vehicles. So the goal was to trade those
[5:10:40] vehicles in. Try to man. Yes, or to to sell them. Because putting them back into a
[5:10:47] I mean, we're going to have to replace the vehicles in a few years anyway, because they've been sitting there, so the understanding was to sell those vehicles.
[5:10:53] So if you're saying don't sell those vehicles, then do something else with them. They're not a different guidance.
[5:10:59] But it was our understanding that we was going to sell those vehicles to offset the calls for the new vehicles.
[5:11:06] Oh, okay. I thought they were being transferred. That's what I understood that the governing bodies currently would be transferred to other departments.
[5:11:15] I didn't know that they were going to be sold or traded in.
[5:11:18] Yes, no.
[5:11:19] Okay.
[5:11:19] Thank you.
[5:11:20] Thank you for that.
[5:11:22] Budget for the on-house.
[5:11:24] Mr. Edmondson, you did say during the hometown connections meeting.
[5:11:28] You confirmed that there was funding in the budget to partner with agencies in support
[5:11:32] of the on-house population in our city.
[5:11:35] What does that account number?
[5:11:36] Can you tell me where it is in the budget?
[5:11:39] Please, 26.
[5:11:40] For the on-house.
[5:11:41] But they can go under different several different lines.
[5:11:45] professional service line item that he second make a note of it.
[5:12:20] Okay, so then while he's looking for that Mr. Malazzy.
[5:12:24] I know funding to the DDA budget has increased from 45,000 to over 336,000.
[5:12:32] The full council is unaware of why the budget has increased to this amount.
[5:12:36] The DDA did not present their 2025 unit aid expenses for or during our budget retreat.
[5:12:47] Can you or Mr. Edinson, or maybe the council liaison to the DDA, can explain all the expenses?
[5:12:55] No, during the retreat they provided the presentation and the report that they gave, there is a lot.
[5:13:03] There's a certain question in the spending.
[5:13:07] They get the gifts of presentation.
[5:13:11] After they get the presentation, they submitted their budget request for 2024.
[5:13:19] And that budget was incorporated in here.
[5:13:22] It is as it is.
[5:13:24] It's up to the governing body to say, we are giving for the five.
[5:13:28] We can't give 300 to stick to for the five.
[5:13:30] or we need to give the 100, the 200 is up to you to reduce or to leave it as they requested it.
[5:13:39] So, I'm making a point of order, I'm making another motion to end this, so we continue with the meeting.
[5:13:46] We've been going on now for almost an hour because the presiding officer would not stand up.
[5:13:52] I'm making a motion to end these comments.
[5:13:56] First of all, you know, right, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not standing up.
[5:13:59] She's asked a person to question. She's been going on an hour. You don't have an hour to do that. Well, she's asked a person to question about
[5:14:05] He's responding to her. I've had an hour to do that now. We've got something else now. She had an hour to do that. Well, no, we've been going on an hour now.
[5:14:14] Well, up there, all the other stuff wouldn't have been included. I'm making a motion to end these comments. So we can move on with the meeting and pay attention to both their second to the motion.
[5:14:23] There's a second to the motion.
[5:14:26] You said, you said in the motion, all right, I'm favorite of the motion, to end the comments.
[5:14:32] I need to vote.
[5:14:33] Now for a map finish.
[5:14:35] No, we just made it.
[5:14:36] We had a vote.
[5:14:37] I have questions that I'm asking.
[5:14:39] We have a vote.
[5:14:40] That, that by.
[5:14:42] You still have questions to reference to the question itself.
[5:14:45] I do.
[5:14:45] We had a vote to end comments.
[5:14:49] You had a vote to end content.
[5:14:51] Who's in favor of the motion?
[5:14:52] Who's the favorite?
[5:14:53] You're in favor of the motion?
[5:14:55] You're a family. You're a family. You're a family, and you're a family and see.
[5:15:00] Second, are you favorite Indians? You're favorite Indians. All right, you're favorite
[5:15:04] and you're two. Okay, so the motion pass, we're not going to go any further with these comments
[5:15:09] right now with this budget related motion in pass. You have that clerk? You have that? All right.
[5:15:19] Now, so if that's the case, if we're not talking anymore about the budget, is that correct?
[5:15:23] I want to make a motion. The motion, what you want to make the motion to pass, the budget, as
[5:15:28] described by Mr. Malazie at the amount that he has
[5:15:32] described with $3 million for the amphitheater
[5:15:35] within Debra or the goal, understanding that we
[5:15:38] want to look for additional funding in the budget as described.
[5:15:44] Is there a second to add motion?
[5:15:45] No, second.
[5:15:47] All right, I'll favor the motion.
[5:15:48] Please indicate.
[5:15:51] I'll pose.
[5:15:52] I will pose, and I want to add a comment.
[5:15:54] OK, so motion's passed three to one.
[5:15:56] We've got we've played half playing time for comment motion to adjourn
[5:16:02] All right, most of them may do adjourn
[5:16:05] It's been second and they realize
[5:16:07] You realize there's plenty of other things we have not finished tonight. What is it that we have?
[5:16:11] Well, this we've got this public here, but I saw the most things
[5:16:13] We have to finish
[5:16:15] But if we don't finish that we have to make it have a special call. We're probably here and do we have I'm not going to it this year's number
[5:16:22] I'm not coming up. We're probably here. What all this is public part of public here?
[5:16:25] I'm not a fat man, you know what I just thought about that since the public here
[5:16:30] I didn't ask the public in reference to this budget anyway
[5:16:32] I just got to go through that. I realized that there's a public hearing there's some more items on the
[5:16:36] Okay, if you end the meeting, I'm safe. You end the meeting. Go ahead. I forgot about that
[5:16:42] So in reference to the budget I heard the public hearing
[5:16:45] Let's hold on second so in reference to the budget and and budget itself from
[5:16:51] From a public hearing standpoint, everybody said that's in favor of the budget for the
[5:16:56] standard for the public hearing standpoint on my left side, in the comments in the middle,
[5:17:01] in the comments from my right.
[5:17:03] In the comments against the budget from my left side, in the middle, in the right.
[5:17:10] All you have a comment you want to make.
[5:17:13] This is against the particular budget, this name and address, please.
[5:17:18] My name is Alicia Moore, 509 Country Club Drive Stockbridge.
[5:17:23] I guess my concern is I like a lot of residents.
[5:17:29] I'm very concerned about this amphitheater.
[5:17:33] When Councilwoman Barber is speaking out for the residents,
[5:17:37] it does seem like she's being ignored and overlooked.
[5:17:42] And it seems to me and probably a lot of other residents,
[5:17:45] like it's kind of a personal thing for you guys like for you guys to enjoy and get perks from
[5:17:55] and it does not benefit most of the residents at all the concerts you guys have to exchange,
[5:18:01] you're up on the stage and so that's great for you and for people who can afford it, but there
[5:18:06] are a lot of people who can afford the tickets who would prefer roads, sidewalks, trails and parks
[5:18:14] And you're so dead set on keeping the amphitheater within the city when you don't have the skill sets to run it.
[5:18:22] It's been proven.
[5:18:24] It can be vetted out to a management company.
[5:18:27] This is a municipality.
[5:18:29] It's not a party planner or promoter or anything like that.
[5:18:36] It's an actual municipality.
[5:18:38] You should be working on roads and sidewalks and things that benefit all of the city.
[5:18:42] And I know I speak for a lot of residents, but I feel like, and my voice is trembling because I'm pissed off,
[5:18:49] but I feel like you guys aren't listening and you brush it off and you act like,
[5:18:55] and you make all these excuses about the 32 million dollars. That's a lot of money.
[5:18:59] And I work in finance. I know a little bit about budgeting, so you can't fool me. The money she was
[5:19:07] has been asking for years for budget,
[5:19:10] amendment meetings to go over the budget,
[5:19:13] meet your budget reviews, you brush your ass
[5:19:15] and then when everything blows up,
[5:19:18] it's where we didn't know,
[5:19:19] but now we have a process in place.
[5:19:21] The process I already should have always been in place
[5:19:24] because she has been asking for these types
[5:19:27] of financial reviews since she got here.
[5:19:31] So make no mistake, the public sees through it
[5:19:35] the fact that you are so adamant on keeping this amphitheater in health, I'll tell you, it's
[5:19:42] male to high heaven. It's very suspicious. That's not good.
[5:19:48] Thanks for coming. All right, so the most of us already made prior to this about ending or
[5:19:53] about proving the budget as it has been stated. So I don't think we have to do that again,
[5:19:57] I'll close the public hearing on that aspect. Now, if you want to close the meeting,
[5:20:01] There's many more things for us to cover.
[5:20:05] I'm not finished, so if we close the meeting,
[5:20:07] the several things of cover,
[5:20:09] so we're going to have to have before the end of the year,
[5:20:11] we're going to have to have a special call meeting
[5:20:12] to go through this.
[5:20:14] You know, do you know what I mean?
[5:20:16] Oh, there's a problem.
[5:20:17] I mean, we can approach the best year.
[5:20:18] We don't have to do these other things this year,
[5:20:21] do we?
[5:20:21] What else do we have to do?
[5:20:23] No, I'm serious.
[5:20:24] I'm not going to have another special call meeting.
[5:20:25] I'm not going to.
[5:20:25] You got a second reading of text amendment.
[5:20:27] You got a couple of second reading of text amendment on here.
[5:20:31] Well, the sun your gender. So we have it. We have them vote it, but Mayor, if I may, because I haven't really talked about the budget and I do want to address the comment about that.
[5:20:41] Hold on, hold on a second. I haven't talked about the budget.
[5:20:44] Hold on a second. Let me explain something to you. If we cancel, if you closing me now, do you have several of the text amendments here.
[5:20:51] We have one, two, three, four, six text amendments as some new business items to cover.
[5:20:55] three new business item to cover as well as a health insurance, the way-fighting contract,
[5:21:01] and then you still got the actual, the actual, the actual, what is it called, the,
[5:21:06] the way funding contracts. All the city events are on there. Now those are still need to be approved.
[5:21:13] A grant in these three. We got several things still to do.
[5:21:17] Let me just say this. We sat here and listened to somebody talk over an hour. I only want
[5:21:22] to address the things that we have to get.
[5:21:27] We have our staff here, so I'm gonna even live in the city.
[5:21:30] A lot of them don't live in, I mean,
[5:21:31] we have people who have to travel.
[5:21:35] And I'm not trying to be funny,
[5:21:37] but we have been sitting here for an hour.
[5:21:41] For a long time,
[5:21:46] and I'm trying to,
[5:21:47] but I'm looking at here is,
[5:21:49] let's look at the agenda on what items that we have to get done
[5:21:53] for 2025 and anything that needs to go on that can wait to 2026 when the meeting can be controlled.
[5:22:02] Let's put it on that because I'm not going to sit here and constantly go through another
[5:22:11] hour or two of this. We worked too. I've been up since 8, 7, 30 this morning. I haven't went home.
[5:22:19] I'm not trying to be funny, but what I'm saying is some of this was unnecessary, and let me enjoy
[5:22:30] As the amphitheater real quick, let me just a budget because I haven't had my chance at all. I haven't talked about a budget at all.
[5:22:38] When no one else, when we get up here, we don't want to talk negative. And it's okay if we talk to our city manager and our staff and ask questions, it's not necessarily behind the scenes, so we don't waste time and we're not out here all night to one, to a clock in the morning.
[5:22:58] That's not a secret, we're not attacking either, we're not saying y'all, we're not saying,
[5:23:04] oh, they drew a district line, but they drew it a map when we didn't, we said it over and over again.
[5:23:09] And we hear this every single month, we hear it all the time, accusations, and none of them can be proven
[5:23:18] because it didn't happen in that way, at least it didn't happen from my perspective.
[5:23:24] And what I'm saying to you is we can move forward.
[5:23:30] We gave an explanation just because,
[5:23:34] and I'm not ignoring Councilwoman Barbers comments.
[5:23:38] I'm tired of them because they've been the same comments.
[5:23:42] And just because a person says,
[5:23:44] I can say something and the Council will want to agree.
[5:23:47] If they don't agree, they just don't agree.
[5:23:48] We have to move on.
[5:23:51] That's democracy.
[5:23:51] the majority wins. That's it. And if they don't like it, oh well. But just because
[5:23:59] someone says it to their blind faces, I mean we're going to change our minds. It doesn't
[5:24:06] mean we're wrong.
[5:24:10] At what point is it that there's a line where it's not about friendships,
[5:24:14] it's about, it's true.
[5:24:18] It's adult, it's adulting. It's professionalism, it's common sense.
[5:24:26] It is what it takes. Yes, it's professionalism. It's everything that you, if you don't agree with it,
[5:24:36] just because you said it, don't mean it's going to happen.
[5:24:42] And so that was, you know, everybody has their opinion.
[5:24:47] And if the majority agree with that opinion, then it will show.
[5:24:52] But that's not the way it works.
[5:24:56] It's not showing that way.
[5:24:57] So there's nothing we can, you can't get mad because that doesn't mean we're not listening.
[5:25:02] I mean, we're tired of hearing the same thing over and over, we're tired of being attacked every
[5:25:06] every week or accused.
[5:25:10] That's all that is.
[5:25:14] Moving on, what Mayor, I would like for us to really
[5:25:19] look at this rest of this main division and get Mr. Edmist of Edmist, Edmist, and opinion on what we
[5:25:29] have to get done for this year as you go out tonight at 12 o'clock midnight or whatever
[5:25:37] time it is after listening to a filibuster for over an hour.
[5:25:43] Well, I'm going to give you a opinion, sir, but there's several different things.
[5:25:46] I would imagine that we need to make sure you need a lot of it.
[5:25:49] Well, you've got six text amendments, you've got several text amendments, one second,
[5:25:54] six text amendments on here, three different business items.
[5:25:57] You've got health insurance issues, way finding contract, and once again, the actual actual
[5:26:04] 2020-6 calendar of events and things that you said you wanted to make sure to mix on the justice on
[5:26:10] Because some additional budget items or percent of some additional funding and a budget per se. You mentioned that earlier
[5:26:16] So it's a bunch of things still to go through here and now I would pick all these items
[5:26:20] I would think all these items would have to be approved before the end of the year. I would think that that's why they're on to the Jennifer
[5:26:25] all the same. I'm not done. People have been proved by the end of the year. You know, so my thought process is simply this if we don't approve the night, I would think we still have to have a special call being sometime for the end of the year to do that.
[5:26:38] That's my thought process.
[5:26:39] They just said we can amend the but we're going to have to amend the budget anyway.
[5:26:43] And so I'm okay, but amending it and making those changes as needed.
[5:26:47] A lot of my events that we want to give to the city to handle instead of us having that we've already done them.
[5:26:53] we can spearhead. It's not, it's not that urgent. We've sat here. This entire time. If you
[5:27:02] want the agenda done, then you should stop it. Yeah, well, I'm ready to move forward. I mean,
[5:27:08] I need to go on the circus went on. Second reading, tax amendment case, TX 2025-04 for
[5:27:18] building materials, city-wide, consideration of the ordinance to revive section 4.4.4,
[5:27:25] and at the Unified Development Code, UDC to establish updated requirements for building
[5:27:30] cloud materials and non-resistant, non-residential and multifamily structures.
[5:27:35] Hose ordinance outlines material standards to promote out-contextual consistency, durability,
[5:27:41] neighborhood compatibility.
[5:27:43] Mr. Anderson, please.
[5:27:44] Yes, we heard this at the first reading at the last city council work session at the end of November
[5:27:51] There there have been no changes to the document since so I just request the boat
[5:27:57] All right, is there a motion to set this please so move is there a second
[5:28:02] For Mr. Alexander Mr. Bear on fair, please indicate
[5:28:06] So it passes
[5:28:09] Second reading text amendment case TX 2025 on went my homensick. I forgot something. This is still public hearing aspect.
[5:28:18] I'm sorry about that.
[5:28:20] So in reference to this text amendment, this made any comments for for this on my very left side.
[5:28:27] For in the middle.
[5:28:29] For in on my right and the economists against my left side.
[5:28:32] The middle.
[5:28:33] All right.
[5:28:35] So no comments one way or four against.
[5:28:38] Second, reading text amendment case, TX, 2025, that's 05, for two car garages, citywide, consideration
[5:28:46] of ordinance, to amend section 4.2, scrim 4.4.2, F2 of the United of the Unified
[5:28:54] Development Code, UDC, to require two car garages for all single family homes, town homes
[5:29:03] and each unit with new flexors.
[5:29:05] This amendment update, so I'll talk to the standards
[5:29:07] to promote adequate off-street parking
[5:29:10] and consistent residential design.
[5:29:12] Once again, Mr. Anderson, please.
[5:29:15] From last,
[5:29:19] at the end of November,
[5:29:19] the November of 29th, city council work session,
[5:29:22] there has been no change to this document.
[5:29:26] This document originated from a scripting as error
[5:29:29] in the code, so we just want to make sure we correct that
[5:29:33] to make sure that no one car garages are allowed only two car garages for town homes.
[5:29:38] Any questions for the council?
[5:29:41] Okay, anybody from the public that wants to make the comments for this? I'm a farer left
[5:29:46] in the middle of far right. In the comments of gets
[5:29:50] far left, the middle far right. No comments one way the other. So now,
[5:29:55] I'll call somebody a most new subject, please.
[5:29:57] I'll move.
[5:29:58] It's our second.
[5:29:59] From this gap.
[5:30:05] Second
[5:30:12] meeting, text amendment, case, TX-2025-106 for an entertainment district. Council of
[5:30:20] Dresses 4 and 5, consideration of ordinance to adopt Title IX after 200 of the municipal code of
[5:30:26] ordinance for the city of Stobbridge's established regulations for entertainment districts within
[5:30:30] the city. The ordinance outlines operational standards, I'll call for meeting, smoking a
[5:30:35] a thousand requirements and enforcement provisions to provide two to support safe and vibrant public spaces.
[5:30:42] The Senate is in place.
[5:30:43] There have been no changes to this document since the last presentation.
[5:30:47] It's all right.
[5:30:47] Thanks for approval.
[5:30:49] Okay.
[5:30:49] Any questions, council?
[5:30:50] If no questions, I need to open this up.
[5:30:53] And it concerns for this for this particular text amendment from the public on a far left.
[5:31:00] in the middle far right against far left middle far right no response whatsoever
[5:31:08] the emotional safety specific to the right Mr.
[5:31:11] Do you have the other the additional entertainment districts on how we won 38 and the others covered too?
[5:31:18] No, we haven't but we still have room for those but
[5:31:23] when we come back to create some additional ones we'll include those areas so we're just going to do two
[5:31:29] time. Okay. How hard is it? Is this great? The other ones were already. I mean, you
[5:31:35] can just think when we make a condition of approval, but this is not, this is not, this
[5:31:40] is not the, uh, due to council's previous recommendation, we remove the restriction on the number
[5:31:47] of entertainment districts. Okay. So it is only, okay. Thank you. Coming up on the, it's coming
[5:31:54] up on the next one up. This was for something else. It's the next item. Okay. Just for the, is
[5:31:59] are most in a set this text amendment.
[5:32:02] So move, is there a second?
[5:32:04] I think.
[5:32:04] All right, from Alexander to get,
[5:32:07] I'll for you, please, in the cake.
[5:32:09] Okay, soon as the season, thank you very much.
[5:32:13] Second reading, text amendment case,
[5:32:16] TX2025-007 for outdoor festival, city-wide.
[5:32:20] Consideration of ordinance to revise Title IX, Chapter 28,
[5:32:24] sections 0, 4, 0 on a municipal code of ordinances
[5:32:27] would the city's five reasons staff is updated for meeting requirements for outdoor festivals
[5:32:31] and temporary special events within the city.
[5:32:34] What's when you take the polls or in its outlines, application procedures, public safety measures
[5:32:38] and fee structure to ensure responsibility of that measurement. Mr. Ryan, please.
[5:32:43] Okay, yeah. There have been no changes to this one either, Mayor.
[5:32:48] Okay. Councillor questions.
[5:32:50] I would like, I just want to clarify this, certainly. I want to set the downtown fee lower for the
[5:32:56] We did it on Melbourne. We lower it.
[5:33:00] What is that?
[5:33:01] It's 300 dollars and I spoke to some of the businesses down there.
[5:33:06] They felt like 300 dollars was fair.
[5:33:08] And also, you can get a year, a year pass for a thousand dollars.
[5:33:13] Okay, so the fee is not a thousand dollars anymore.
[5:33:16] It's 300 dollars for perfect event.
[5:33:20] Okay.
[5:33:20] And a thousand dollars for annual.
[5:33:23] I have no question of counting the open enough for the public in questions forward, concerns
[5:33:29] forward for the far left, in the middle far right, in the questions of concerns against
[5:33:35] far left, the middle far right, no concerns from the public at this point, I need a motion
[5:33:42] to accept this, please.
[5:33:44] Assembly.
[5:33:44] Is that second?
[5:33:45] Second.
[5:33:46] Okay.
[5:33:46] Ms. Gantt to Mr. Barron, please indicate, it's against unanimous decision.
[5:33:52] Second reading text amendment case TX202025-08 for temporary alcohol licenses, citywide consideration
[5:34:01] of an amendment of to chapter 9.046595.1 of the municipal code of ordinances for the city's
[5:34:09] stopper system for many process for temporary alcohol sales and outdoor events and special events
[5:34:15] within the city.
[5:34:16] The ordinance outlines application procedures, fees, structures, and electricity criteria for both non-profit and commercial applicants, Mr. Anderson, please.
[5:34:25] Here, there have been a change to just when we lowered the fee from $1,000 per
[5:34:33] event to $300 per event, and you can get an annual pass for $1,000.
[5:34:39] Those were the concerns from Council was about the cost of the permit, so we lowered the
[5:34:45] to $300.
[5:34:48] Council any questions?
[5:34:50] If not, open up to public once again.
[5:34:52] Any questions?
[5:34:53] For my far right side.
[5:34:56] Excuse me.
[5:34:56] Left side in the middle of our right.
[5:34:59] Any questions?
[5:34:59] Against concerns?
[5:35:01] Our left?
[5:35:03] All right.
[5:35:04] I see none.
[5:35:05] Council need a motion.
[5:35:06] Accept this.
[5:35:07] I'm sorry.
[5:35:09] I'm sorry.
[5:35:11] I'm sorry.
[5:35:12] I'm sorry.
[5:35:15] I'm sorry.
[5:35:16] It's the tax amendment case TX2025-08.
[5:35:23] Say, all fair presented, okay?
[5:35:26] It's okay.
[5:35:27] Now it's the season, thank you.
[5:35:30] Second reading tax amendment case TX2025-10
[5:35:35] for a container-based commercial buildings, district four.
[5:35:39] Considerational ordinance to amend sexist 2.5.3E
[5:35:43] and 2.5.3H.
[5:35:45] A Starbridge Unified Development Code to allow container-based commercial buildings as a type of
[5:35:51] special use within the downtown village overlay district, Mr. Anderson, please.
[5:35:56] There have been no changes to this one since the last presentation, so I ask for approval.
[5:36:01] All right. Any questions, Council?
[5:36:03] No. You got a new public here.
[5:36:06] Is this coming?
[5:36:06] Yeah, I'm just asking if I don't want to talk to you.
[5:36:09] Any questions? Go right to please.
[5:36:11] I'm so tired.
[5:36:12] Some of you.
[5:36:14] Go ahead.
[5:36:15] Yeah, you have a question?
[5:36:17] No, I said so.
[5:36:18] Well, public.
[5:36:20] Public.
[5:36:20] I'm sorry.
[5:36:21] For left-hand side.
[5:36:22] Because for left-hand side.
[5:36:22] Because for left-hand side.
[5:36:24] The middle.
[5:36:25] For right-hand.
[5:36:26] Public comments against.
[5:36:27] For my left.
[5:36:28] The middle.
[5:36:29] For right.
[5:36:30] No comments whatsoever.
[5:36:31] I need a motion.
[5:36:33] Is there a second?
[5:36:34] Mr. Bearer said.
[5:36:35] For Mr.
[5:36:38] Bearer.
[5:36:38] All fair, please indicate.
[5:36:40] All right.
[5:36:40] The past four.
[5:36:41] Thank you.
[5:36:42] New business.
[5:36:43] Thank you, Mr. Anderson.
[5:36:45] New business council consideration to approve the public works of maintenance shop.
[5:36:49] Phase two interior built out for the prime contractors in corporate and amount of 2,241,045,000.
[5:36:55] Forty-five dollars, funding source is Splash Six.
[5:36:58] Mr. Aaron, please.
[5:36:59] Yes, Mr. Mayor.
[5:37:00] This is for the build out of the new public works, maintenance building.
[5:37:04] It's scheduled to start on January the year of 2026,
[5:37:07] and scheduled to be completed on September 7, 2026.
[5:37:11] So we're asking Council to approve, okay?
[5:37:14] Council any questions?
[5:37:18] No questions?
[5:37:19] Any emotion to approve?
[5:37:22] So move.
[5:37:23] Ms. Gantt.
[5:37:24] Mr. Barris, second and all fair, please indicate.
[5:37:27] You've announced the season.
[5:37:28] Thank you very much.
[5:37:31] Custom consideration approved change order number two for 2025 ill-me这是 peying project with blood, construction company, the amount of $109 million, excuse her, $12,000, $199,026,026,026,026,026,026,026,026,026,026,026,026,026,026,026.026,025,027,026,026,026,026,026,026.026,026
[5:38:01] during drive and it exceeded what the estimate was for the amount of tons for asphalt so
[5:38:07] we're asking counts to approve the change order.
[5:38:09] Questions, council?
[5:38:12] Some move.
[5:38:13] Okay, for Ms. Gap II.
[5:38:15] So that's a bit of a second now.
[5:38:16] I'm fair, please indicate.
[5:38:17] Now this is in 40.
[5:38:19] Okay, thank you.
[5:38:20] Thank you.
[5:38:21] Council consideration to approve change order number three for the walk away pine view and
[5:38:26] memorial park lift station for some main rehabilitation project with so
[5:38:30] So, construction LLC, amount of $250,000, $216,000,
[5:38:36] funding sources from Splash 6.
[5:38:38] Mr. Aaron, please.
[5:38:38] Yes, Mr. Mayor, staff and the city manager.
[5:38:41] We had a meeting with EPD and they requested us
[5:38:43] to buy past pumps to each of these lift stations,
[5:38:47] so that any event will lose power or some event like that.
[5:38:50] We can buy past the pump installations
[5:38:52] and not have sewer spill.
[5:38:54] So, we're asking council to approve this.
[5:38:58] Okay, so I know what you're question I'm sorry
[5:39:02] Every time these projects come forward they're coming out of the new splot six. There's no there's no fun to pay for any of these projects
[5:39:13] You would have to take it out of the budget
[5:39:15] But these are Alex funds are allocated in splot six
[5:39:19] I don't know where we got so many other things to do in Splash 6 year you're all in your projects are coming out of the new when you have funds to pay for these
[5:39:30] Not in this amounts or and
[5:39:32] This is something that EPD is requiring us to do it and it's a capital project and most time capital projects are not taken out of the operating budget
[5:39:40] Right, but I'm saying isn't isn't isn't there
[5:39:47] take a little fun. You can do it out of the sewer budget, but most of the time I say capital
[5:39:54] product is that's why you include them in spots because of the expenditures.
[5:39:58] I just want to understand that every time this comes forward, this is less money that we
[5:40:03] have in spot six when there is some funds that you could take. These projects out of that are asking
[5:40:09] for the new funds every time. So how much, Mr. Malazi come up here?
[5:40:15] How much money is in the water sewer fund?
[5:40:22] So if you recall, we had to reduce the water and sanitation, because of the depression
[5:40:31] of the fund balance, and we don't have to balance our budgets using the funds, but
[5:40:38] they have been doing that.
[5:40:41] So barely there is enough.
[5:40:44] And we had also to, first point, we don't even know how much they see some money that
[5:40:53] he projects within water.
[5:40:56] Is it a waterfall?
[5:40:58] Yeah.
[5:41:00] So,
[5:41:03] it's not enough.
[5:41:08] Remember, what if anything happens, it's
[5:41:14] a, it's capital projects that you're talking about,
[5:41:16] It should be anything, if we can't complete it, stay without the good,
[5:41:20] find balance, we may be in trouble.
[5:41:24] I understand everything that comes forward is out as far as six.
[5:41:28] We're trying to do other projects.
[5:41:29] That's the issue we have with this process, with just this process,
[5:41:34] because all this process, we have not created it.
[5:41:37] Just the same case, we said four million,
[5:41:42] four parts.
[5:41:43] We did it in to define, that's what I'm working with them, that we should define it
[5:41:47] which are there. So if there will be some projects that we can defile as defile. But otherwise,
[5:41:53] plus six plus six, remember we get a six hundred thousand math. And already here we have taken
[5:42:04] any, that we have just approved the two million for the project, building for the public work
[5:42:14] building. Two million, that is the you're talking about more than four months or six
[5:42:20] months actually. Six, six, six, six, about four months. But this is exactly what I'm
[5:42:24] saying. It is that all the money is going to the public works out at this
[5:42:28] last six. We're never going to get any other project done. It's like these
[5:42:33] particular projects keep coming forward. So I'm asking to see other alternatives to
[5:42:38] taking all of the new money as it comes in in the budget. So not you don't have
[5:42:42] I ask that tonight, but send us the documentation on how much money is in these various funds and alternatives to taking the new money all the time.
[5:42:52] Next meeting will, even before the next meeting.
[5:42:55] Just email it to me.
[5:42:56] We'll be great.
[5:42:56] Or keep your post-ed.
[5:42:58] If you email, you've got to email to everybody across.
[5:43:01] It's all of us.
[5:43:02] It's all of us.
[5:43:03] Anyway.
[5:43:04] So, I need a motion to approve.
[5:43:06] It was, I just need to vote on it, right?
[5:43:09] Okay.
[5:43:09] We'll all favor the motion, please indicate.
[5:43:13] Thank you, sir.
[5:43:15] Mr. Howard, you have the motion been approved and a person that made the motion
[5:43:21] seconded?
[5:43:26] All right.
[5:43:27] Counseling consideration to approve the award of Governor's Office for Highway Safety
[5:43:31] Heat Grant, an amount of 268,000, $920.
[5:43:35] The effect of date of the grant is 1 December 2025 through September 30th, they're 2026 a lot for
[5:43:42] causing curve within this period. Our reimbursement at the rate of 100% of the proof federal funds
[5:43:48] allocated above Mr. Malazian, I guess the assistant she got for here.
[5:43:52] I've been though my name is there, but I would leave that one to our grant right and fortunate that
[5:43:58] he has left, so Chief Deputy would do that on behalf of the PD.
[5:44:07] Good evening, Mayor and Council.
[5:44:09] As you just read, we have been awarded a grant amount of $260,928 from the Georgia
[5:44:16] Governor's Highway Office of Highway Safety.
[5:44:19] This grant will fund two additional police officers dedicated to traffic enforcement, as well
[5:44:27] us two forward interceptor patrol vehicles and all the associated bidding equipment.
[5:44:32] These resources will be dedicated exclusively to enhancing traffic enforcement and addressing
[5:44:38] traffic related violations within the city of Stockbridge.
[5:44:41] As you know, there were delays in the federal funding to the state that pushed the grant
[5:44:46] award back to December of this year.
[5:44:49] The award actually went effective on December 1st.
[5:44:52] This grant terminates September 30th of 2026.
[5:44:56] So we have about nine months to
[5:45:00] Complied with the effectiveness of this grant. If a past, the resolution will read as follows. A resolution
[5:45:07] authorized in the mayor on behalf of the city of Stockbridge to accept the grant from the Georgia
[5:45:11] Governors' Office of Highway Safety in the amount of 268,000, $9,028, throughout the rise of the city
[5:45:17] treasurer to amend the budget where necessary to reflect an appropriate revenue source, authorizing
[5:45:21] the city manager to approve all necessary purchases required to fulfill the requirements of this grant
[5:45:26] I have to see the total amount of grant award, authorizing the City Clerk to test the signatures
[5:45:30] that fix the seal of the city of stock bridge, as necessary, repealing all inconsistent
[5:45:36] resolutions providing for an effective date and for other purposes.
[5:45:42] So a second, okay, from Ms. Gantt to Mr. Barry, I'm very pleased to indicate, thank you very much.
[5:45:51] What is next deals with health insurance?
[5:45:55] I want to imagine this is, this is you, you saw who's going to talk about,
[5:46:02] Frank's going to talk about health insurance, sir?
[5:46:12] So, here's the, we have two health insurance.
[5:46:16] We have what we have now, signal.
[5:46:19] Then we have a United Health Insurance.
[5:46:24] Then we are trying to look for the other one.
[5:46:28] All of them, they were to, even if we get it united, it will still expire in April.
[5:46:35] So they agreement, or the discussion was, why don't we just have to have what we have in place now, signal?
[5:46:42] Then they come April.
[5:46:47] By that time, you united, you have presented, whoever we have again, they will have presented.
[5:46:52] So, he has just for you to approve what we have already taken, which we have already defected in our budget that you have just approved.
[5:47:06] Some of them.
[5:47:07] Well, one second.
[5:47:09] It's not changed.
[5:47:11] But we have defected.
[5:47:13] We'll take this or we'll be a hassle.
[5:47:15] Why would we consider changing?
[5:47:19] Okay.
[5:47:21] This is something else we need.
[5:47:25] Yeah, the thing is, Mr. Manajay is talking about the United is the lower.
[5:47:33] Even if it's lower, the United will have to end it by April.
[5:47:40] But at the same time, it's not what we are factored in the budget that you have approved it.
[5:47:45] So, wanted to have more than just one United.
[5:47:51] We currently have signal right now.
[5:47:55] We have one, because...
[5:48:01] What is the recommendation?
[5:48:05] What's the recommendation right now?
[5:48:06] The recommendation is to continue with what we have.
[5:48:08] With signal.
[5:48:09] Okay, so moved.
[5:48:10] Then United will come.
[5:48:13] We'll have also to present here.
[5:48:14] It should be represented that one with others.
[5:48:18] In April.
[5:48:18] Yes.
[5:48:19] Not before April.
[5:48:20] Of course.
[5:48:21] It would be effective at that time.
[5:48:22] Okay, all right, and that'll be for the following year or for the following year because this one wanted to end
[5:48:29] December, but it has not worked. We couldn't wait and it's December and they say no will compete or something once
[5:48:37] We they realized what that we have another thing the quotation of
[5:48:41] United health the way they're quoted to see
[5:48:45] Lower than the signal, but it's not yet implemented. I got it, but we keep going back and forth there
[5:48:51] every other, every other year and people, you have to change sometimes you have to change your
[5:48:56] provider. I'm just too much in right now. If y'all are recommending that we stay who we got,
[5:49:02] let's stay with who we have. I'm relying on experts,
[5:49:05] so moved. Is there a second? Second. Because every time we change, there's always some drama.
[5:49:10] Okay Ms. Gantt to Ms. House and I'm free please indicate.
[5:49:13] I'm sorry.
[5:49:14] I may be.
[5:49:17] It's $2,6,000, not $128,2,6,8,9,2,8.
[5:49:25] I'm sorry.
[5:49:26] Excuse me.
[5:49:27] I'm sorry.
[5:49:28] Excuse me.
[5:49:29] That's wrong.
[5:49:30] Health insurance.
[5:49:30] I'm sorry.
[5:49:31] I don't know what to.
[5:49:31] No, I don't have the informant.
[5:49:33] What's the amount?
[5:49:34] I'm sorry.
[5:49:36] Why do you know what we need to amount?
[5:49:38] Right now.
[5:49:38] It's what's the post-unrette.
[5:49:40] Is it on the is it in the in your packet I'll give you them
[5:49:47] I've had it right can I give I'll give you the amount
[5:49:53] I mean, I'm not guess it the public needs to know it but I'm just asking was it something that was a requirement normally
[5:50:01] I'm moving both making these motions. I got you. All right, you'll get you frankly get the tree
[5:50:08] All right, the way finding contract, who's handling that?
[5:50:15] The city manager, so I'm going to put it in priority.
[5:50:20] Can you
[5:50:25] present it?
[5:50:31] Good evening.
[5:50:31] Once again, this contract was already a pre-approved last year.
[5:50:35] We're trying to go into phase two and three.
[5:50:38] The option was a five-year contract.
[5:50:40] I think this is going into year two.
[5:50:43] And they want to go ahead and get started and have already prepared the way financed on it.
[5:50:48] They just wait for the contract to be renewed so they can go ahead and start putting up the way financed on it that we got.
[5:50:55] The start faced three.
[5:50:57] Phase three.
[5:50:58] So do we need a financial aspect? How much is left on this?
[5:51:02] Yes.
[5:51:02] We have the breakdowns and the packet.
[5:52:05] Yes.
[5:52:08] was
[5:52:19] a breakdown, I had it, he's got to come to it.
[5:52:24] I'm not going to speak with my one.
[5:52:26] I have face to tears.
[5:52:28] Okay.
[5:52:31] Okay, so we had face one, which was $157,900 in $2.75, which is already been paid.
[5:52:40] Phase two is $400,000 and phase three is $1.4 million.
[5:52:46] So, face three is referring to as a sign to President Jason Nass, $1.4 million.
[5:52:51] All right, and that's coming out of what fund?
[5:52:54] So, a portion of this had came out of ARPA, but now they are seeing SPLOS 6.
[5:53:04] SPLOS 6.
[5:53:04] SPLOS 6 is well.
[5:53:06] 1.4 million SPLOS 6.
[5:53:08] Right, and these are the city limit signs that we've been waiting on to go up in the various
[5:53:13] other signs to go as far to the package we've already presented with, right?
[5:53:17] Yes, sir.
[5:53:18] And the funding has been identified.
[5:53:20] Yes, sir.
[5:53:21] So moved.
[5:53:22] I think. Okay, for Ms. Eisenhower, Ms. Kent, I'm very pleased in the cake. Okay, so in that
[5:53:29] decision. All right. Now, what was left here? That's far deals with the consent agenda item
[5:53:34] that we move into 2020, this counter-event city events, mainstream events, and mayor council initiatives
[5:53:41] that we put to very end here on the general. So, and that was based, I guess, Ms. Eisenhower.
[5:53:48] Yes, I'm concerned about that and how it affected some of these events affected the budget,
[5:53:51] need to be congratulated?
[5:53:53] Yeah, certainly.
[5:53:55] I think a couple of things need to happen, certainly.
[5:53:59] I run the Women's History Month event as a Council
[5:54:01] initiative.
[5:54:02] The budget has been a significant amount.
[5:54:06] It now tops 12, sometimes up to 15 million dollars.
[5:54:10] That's an amazing event that needs to go
[5:54:13] of under the city offices to be able to run it
[5:54:16] to be able to continue it at the same standard.
[5:54:18] And also, Councilman Thomas's event, which is the African-American history of month event,
[5:54:25] that event was amazing.
[5:54:26] You see all the participation in the room field with so many positive stories and the
[5:54:31] CDCs performed.
[5:54:33] I was spoken with Mr. Cloud, Council Elect from District 2.
[5:54:40] He says he's willing to be able to step in and partly work on that, but certainly he
[5:54:45] I don't want to have to place all the burden of raising the funding on them.
[5:54:48] So the African-American history month and the women's history month events would then
[5:54:53] become city events where the whole city would participate and not just myself, I certainly
[5:55:00] would contribute, but everybody would be able to participate and lead that event as a wonderful
[5:55:05] event.
[5:55:07] I put to do that, we had to make some adjustments in the budget, is that correct?
[5:55:11] That's correct.
[5:55:12] And the ball festival. I'm sorry. Right. I want the ball festival to be a city event as well.
[5:55:21] We've done well, but I think.
[5:55:24] Which event that was, man? The ball festival that I spent that I've sponsored.
[5:55:29] I think it'll be a great event for the city to take over as well.
[5:55:36] The line dance and classes are doing great and I have some other things that are going.
[5:55:40] the kickbacks are going to be my thing.
[5:55:44] And so there's other things that we have in store,
[5:55:48] we really don't have to, you know, as a council person,
[5:55:52] and members, I wouldn't.
[5:55:55] And we can talk about that more during the retreat,
[5:55:57] but we should consider whether we're spearheading
[5:56:02] and participating and joining in with the events team,
[5:56:05] more, but allowing the events team to handle the events.
[5:56:09] And we handled it with them, but I want to push, I want to send that along with it as well.
[5:56:17] I certainly support that you've done an amazing job that event and to see the kids out there and join themselves.
[5:56:25] And we want to maintain those events at that particular level.
[5:56:28] So I certainly do support that.
[5:56:31] And these events, when they grow and we start them, they start off in their infancy.
[5:56:35] we carry them through certainly to council member with be able to stay with that event on a
[5:56:40] committee or what have you to be able to continue to guide it, but a funding them appropriately
[5:56:45] is what we need to do. And certainly as I mentioned, Mayor, our council elect Mr. Cloud was stepping
[5:56:52] in the African-American history of it. All of us will participate. But since it was a district two event
[5:56:57] certainly, I think he should get first dives to be able to participate in it. But those three events
[5:57:03] are magnificent and they need to be carried on with full funding by the city.
[5:57:09] So how do we go about that because if that was funded by the council, the council initiatives
[5:57:13] somehow money needs to be relocated to a different spot.
[5:57:17] Correct.
[5:57:17] So we'll take that funding that's in the governing authority budget and move that over to
[5:57:24] it.
[5:57:24] No.
[5:57:25] No.
[5:57:26] No.
[5:57:26] No sir.
[5:57:27] Also you say add additional.
[5:57:29] Yes.
[5:57:29] Okay, we can find a new funding for that to be able to do this appropriately to make the funding appropriate for these particular events, and this is where sponsorships come in at.
[5:57:42] When you have 300 women sitting in that room and you're honoring the women who have had their head down, man, somebody is willing to put their name on that particular event.
[5:57:52] the African-American history event and certainly the NAACP or someone will probably be willing to help with those particular events
[5:58:01] So we're charging you and finding the additional funding for this particular endeavor
[5:58:08] All right, so that's the case that are standing in a motion to approve that
[5:58:14] We don't have a budget for it, but that we need to consider that and it didn't necessarily mean that we're going to be amending the budget like in January if ever anyway
[5:58:24] But that'll be that's for 2025 funds.
[5:58:27] For what? That's for 2025 funds.
[5:58:30] For the funds that are coming in.
[5:58:32] Correct. Correct.
[5:58:33] When we do that, we can still know that.
[5:58:35] It was the crime and amending when we need to.
[5:58:38] What's the crime?
[5:58:39] No, so what we can do.
[5:58:41] I mean, that's kind of early to amend the 26 budget.
[5:58:44] But at the end of the day, we're saying that.
[5:58:46] We need to find funding for that.
[5:58:48] That will be the time to do that as well.
[5:58:51] just to make that amendment to show.
[5:58:53] To find the funding for the events,
[5:58:55] because they're later in the year,
[5:58:57] there's one May and then you got October.
[5:58:59] We got February.
[5:59:00] You got, oh, you do have February.
[5:59:02] Right, so we put it in the budget tonight.
[5:59:04] We can wait to meet you.
[5:59:05] I mean, what we can do, I mean,
[5:59:07] we can add some funds now, but I don't know.
[5:59:09] We have the retreat, right?
[5:59:10] I mean, we have our retreat, correct.
[5:59:13] There you go.
[5:59:14] But you got a plan to event.
[5:59:16] After going to America history month, event is in February.
[5:59:19] the women's history month is in March, so certainly we discussed additional funding, and those
[5:59:26] events certainly were qualified on some type of tourism or some type of community support market
[5:59:31] in the city.
[5:59:38] I saw what actually we need to do here. Well we have inscriptions to find the money
[5:59:43] and then we will find the best way to do it. So yeah, you're in the form of vote on this is what you tell them.
[5:59:47] Of course, the other thing is what we could do is go ahead and approve the calendar with the
[5:59:54] So I'm going to be at it and then you will endeavor to find the money and then go ahead and vote because we want to
[6:00:00] We have the events in there, so we have to have a budget and a vote in order to do it. So I'm going to go ahead and make a motion to approve the calendar as recommended with the three events that I say.
[6:00:12] The women's history month event, the African American history event and the fall of festival will become in city events.
[6:00:18] Is there a second of that motion for to misguide second of all purpose in the case?
[6:00:24] See now it's a session. Thank you gentlemen. Citywide development authority meeting second two is at least months 6 p.m. City Hall
[6:00:31] Yep
[6:00:33] Which one was that
[6:00:37] We came
[6:00:41] back and did that
[6:00:55] Community zone information meeting there. I never necessarily
[6:00:59] You don't want me to know that no that doesn't necessarily did not let this go in four go that
[6:01:04] Well, actually what I did tell that I did tell the police department that they need to mention this to shop with a cop for the fourth year was stop bridge police department and
[6:01:16] A Saturday December 6 with 40 kids
[6:01:18] Probably $200 per child income based is a several people that applied online or stop bridge elementary school and also department of
[6:01:28] of children's and services at Henry County,
[6:01:31] suggesting it's individuals.
[6:01:33] And $4,000 were sponsored by Vice-Star Credit Union
[6:01:37] and between the two wall march, Hudson Bridge,
[6:01:40] in North Henry Boulevard, they gave $6,000 to help
[6:01:43] support these 40 kids to have a wonderful Christmas.
[6:01:46] So thank you for please department doing this
[6:01:49] for the fourth year and having successful event this past Saturday.
[6:01:54] And happy birthday, Miss Malazzi.
[6:01:56] had a wonderful surprise lunch in today. Once you'd be saved in a holidays, have holidays
[6:02:03] everybody. And this aspect then makes sure you get to cover your shot and your flu shot. And
[6:02:09] of course look forward for a very prosperous new year. And since this is my last meeting
[6:02:16] as elected official, I want to tell you what's been a wonderful 12 years.
[6:02:26] It's been
[6:02:26] I will tell you that I wish the city in a Leslie body along with new administration on the staff
[6:02:32] wonderful move forward and do great things continue to make smart logical decisions have
[6:02:37] a listen there for the public and continue to move forward as we continue to grow and
[6:02:42] guaranteed I'll be watching I'll be right next I won't be far I'm not moving out of
[6:02:46] area and I look forward to doing other things with the city and being somewhat of an individual
[6:02:52] that can help out, but any type of other events and things that are happening within our
[6:02:57] city itself along the city government. I look forward to a bright future for everybody,
[6:03:02] a bright future for myself as well. I'm a family. I'm not going anywhere. I'll be right here.
[6:03:08] So I look forward to actually I look forward to even coming to concerts. I just come in a different way
[6:03:12] and I'll pause. I'll be sitting in a pit somewhere in my wife, but we'll look forward to that too as
[6:03:17] but God bless you all and wish you well and I look forward to doing what I can to this
[6:03:24] for the city and with the citizens and the community itself.
[6:03:27] I've been at actually a great 12 years but I ain't done yet in order to go to the Lord
[6:03:31] God Son of God Son of God Son of God for me as well.
[6:03:33] And I've got to end tonight with this.
[6:03:35] Stopbriz working with me, connect.
[6:03:36] God bless you, I'm thank you.
[6:03:41] And I actually I said that but now I said we've posted that was like a session I'm assuming.
[6:03:45] Mr. Gavis?
[6:03:46] Yeah.
[6:03:47] I can read things like that.
[6:03:48] See, Mr. Gavis, I have a second.
[6:03:50] So, I need a motion, go to the second session, please.
[6:03:53] Ma'am, move a go to the second session for real estate personnel, litigation and cybersecurity.
[6:03:58] Okay, sir.
[6:03:59] Second.
[6:04:00] All right, Mr. Gavis.
[6:04:00] All fair, please indicate.
[6:04:03] Okay.
[6:04:03] And the second.
[6:04:06] Would you say we are right there?
[6:04:11] All right.
[6:04:11] Mr. Gavis, can't all fair, please indicate.
[6:04:16] Not in a motion to reconvene our council meeting.
[6:04:19] Second.
[6:04:19] Is there a second?
[6:04:20] Okay, from misgantemis,
[6:04:22] outs down on favorite,
[6:04:23] please indicate.
[6:04:24] And from our executive session,
[6:04:25] there are a couple of things that we need to
[6:04:26] make public Mr. Barry, please.
[6:04:29] Yes, Mayor.
[6:04:29] I want to make a motion to approve the
[6:04:31] conditional settlement of
[6:04:34] GRPLLC litigation in place.
[6:04:37] On agenda for recassettoration
[6:04:39] at the 1, 12, 26 meetings.
[6:04:43] Second.
[6:04:44] all right,
[6:04:45] misgantemis,
[6:04:45] outs down on favorite,
[6:04:46] Please indicate, make very much, okay, Mr. Barry got another one, please?
[6:04:50] Yes, Mr. Mayor, secondly, I'd like to make a motion
[6:04:53] authorized in the city treasurer to open an account with
[6:04:57] found one state of Georgia.
[6:04:59] I'll say it again.
[6:05:00] Okay, so a second?
[6:05:02] She said, I'll say, okay, I'm sorry, excuse me.
[6:05:05] Mr. Barry, to misguide off, please indicate.
[6:05:09] Okay, now I need a motion to end our meeting, so Mo.
[6:05:12] Fantastic. Okay, for Mr. Barry, to get off, please indicate.
[6:05:14] Thank you. He's announced a couple of lessons tonight and a little closer in the process of new year