[4:01] I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic

[4:06] for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[4:11] justice for all.

[4:20] Let's call the order. Roll call is all council members present, legal counsel

[4:25] and the clerk treasure. First item is adoption of the agenda for tonight's

[4:29] meeting. >> Um your utility report is going to be a

[4:34] little late. You have um two down with sickness. So

[4:39] » it's going around >> and they were coming and I told them not

[4:42] to. >> Yeah. Thank you.

[4:44] » I'm like, do you have a fever? Yes. Don't come in the town hall. A away

[4:50] » utilities >> Conor

[4:57] got at home. I'll make a motion to approve.

[4:59] » Yeah. Second. >> Second.

[5:01] » Okay. Uh first item for tonight is a guest of Green Sign Company.

[5:07] » Carrie. >> Carrie, you have the floor.

[5:10] » You want me to come up or? >> Yes. Okay, that'd be great.

[5:12] » Yes. >> People at home can see you.

[5:14] » Yeah. My name is Carrie Fitzpatrick Green Company. Um we're based out of

[5:18] Greensburg, Indiana. So we started in 71 over 50 years. Um serving Indiana, Ohio,

[5:24] and Northern Kentucky. And I don't know if everybody saw our uh demo truck out

[5:30] there. Um we are representing um a new digital sign that we're going to be

[5:36] replacing the existing single color. I think it just says the time maybe now

[5:41] the temp. Um, this is a 4 by8 and it is the resolution that you guys would have

[5:48] up on the screen. So, exactly what you're seeing there would be the clarity

[5:51] of your new sign. Um, we have quoted a 3x7, so the size is a little bit

[5:57] different, but the demo trucks are 4 by8. Um, Watchfire is the company that

[6:02] we represent and that the digital signs are made from. They are out of Danville,

[6:06] Illinois, so American brand. They're not shipped overseas. It's not the LEDs you

[6:10] buy online. Um, everything is wireless. So, 4G wireless connection. Anybody that

[6:16] has the password, we recommend not too many people have the password, but

[6:20] anybody that has [clears throat] to log in, update the sign from home, from your

[6:24] phone. Very simple to use. The software is free. It's included with the service

[6:29] as well. It comes with I mean, everything you see on there, the sign

[6:32] will come with or you can customize and put, you know, Cheryl's picture up there

[6:37] on her birthday and happy birthday, Cheryl. I mean it's it's fully

[6:40] customizable [laughter] anybody's picture.

[6:44] » Um so we just wanted to show the demo. This is the exact product that will be

[6:48] on the sign. It does auto dim. A lot of people you know new changing colors. Um

[6:54] these signs do auto dim brighten. So you know it's it's on a photo cell. So even

[7:00] if it's a rainy cloudy day it will brighten up a little bit and then vice

[7:04] versa. So it does that on its own. Um, on top of the digital sign, we have also

[7:09] quoted to replace the top cabinet faces just to update those. So, the part that

[7:14] says town of Sunman. Um, I don't know if you guys have all seen the layouts.

[7:19] Okay. And just freshening that up, adding the logo, and then doing a full

[7:23] LED retrofit to the interior cabinet so it will be illuminated. And then

[7:28] priming, painting, scuffing the full structure. It's going to look like a

[7:33] brand new sign. Okay. Um, is the top part going to be

[7:39] illuminated? >> Yes. So, we're anything it's you can see

[7:42] it's only a tiny portion of its light lighted.

[7:45] » We're removing anything that's in there and putting LED. Okay.

[7:48] » Linear bars, power supplies behind the new faces.

[7:51] » I was trying to remember that new face. >> Yeah. So,

[7:54] » which I think is really nice. This guy right here.

[7:59] » You [snorts] have glasses yet? >> Yeah.

[8:02] » Oh, good. I can see that it's just it's little

[8:05] small letters. [clears throat]

[8:09] » You said it has auto dim and all that. Also, can we adjust it?

[8:14] » You can where if we get complaints about it being too bright or something like

[8:18] that, we can back it off. >> Yep. Um I was explaining to Cheryl

[8:20] before this meeting was set up, you guys can schedule anything you want to five

[8:25] years. So, every Christmas you can put on what you want playing on the sign,

[8:29] » but you can also schedule it. Say, you know, someone complains it's after 10

[8:34] o'clock, whatever. You can schedule it to go up at 10:00, come on at 6. You can

[8:37] do whatever you want with it. Yep. A lot of ordinances require signs to do that.

[8:42] Um, Ripley County doesn't. Um, but, you know, that's why they allow those signs

[8:46] to do that. You can schedule it and auto set it.

[8:54] » Okay. I'm trying to think if there's any other I've talked to you so much. I

[8:57] think all my questions were answered. >> Yeah, the main thing is is the

[9:03] investment. It is a large investment, but it will last. I mean, we have signs.

[9:07] The Napoleon State Banks, I don't know if anybody's familiar with the banks.

[9:10] They have these digital signs. Uh we have one that is now 19 years old, still

[9:14] going, and we're getting ready to replace it this summer. So, I mean, it

[9:18] is it's there to last. They're built for outdoor elements. Um, very user

[9:23] friendly, free software, free training. The great thing about the wireless is is

[9:28] the company Watchfire can even remote into your sign if you need help, you

[9:32] know, accessing something or or service. I mean, it's very user friendly.

[9:37] » Okay. Is there a cost to get assistance from them? No.

[9:41] » Okay. So, they're going to help us learn.

[9:43] » And you have a 5year warranty on the parts through watchfire. They guarantee

[9:47] the parts on the shelf for 10 years. This is going to sound stupid, but when

[9:52] I had these solar panels put on my house part of the deal, too. Is there any type

[9:56] of guarantee like the wind comes whipping

[10:01] across that field over there? Is there any type of guarantee or anything that

[10:05] that'll stand up to x amount of >> wind miles per hour or that you guys

[10:10] would cover? Is that strictly on us and our insurance

[10:13] » that I mean a tornado coming through would be insurance?

[10:16] Yeah. wind load, all of that. We do access or we we figure so the size of

[10:21] the sign, how high it up is in the air. We figure all that um because we did not

[10:26] do this foundation. I mean, we can't guarantee 10 years down the road if if

[10:31] like said a huge storm comes through and pulls trees out,

[10:35] » but we do figure in wind loads, sizes, all of that.

[10:38] » I think they said mine was covered up to like 80 mph winds or something like

[10:41] that. That's asking because >> I don't think I've ever been asked that.

[10:44] I can I can ask, but I know that they do the wind loads and figures and all of

[10:48] that, too. So, >> come ripping across that field, hammer,

[10:54] » just ask the town guys. They got to chase Christmas decorations and

[10:57] everything else across the field.

[11:01] » No, we bought three sets.

[11:09] » All right. And um have you done any sort of grants to

[11:15] [clears throat] go for the >> No. Yeah, we weren't we weren't granted

[11:19] for this one. Um I I gave you this paper here, the recommended digital project

[11:26] budget. It would require additional appropriations out of the edit.

[11:32] Um which still would leave um a balance of 132,000.

[11:38] Actually, I think it's more than that, but I'm going on end of year. I did not

[11:41] I have not been able to start the new year yet.

[11:45] Um the park and recreation um board has

[11:50] kindly offered to pay for 2,000 out of their operating. Um police, the marshall

[11:56] has offered an opioid restricted at 2,000. We're going to go for the large

[12:01] grant at Ripley County Community Foundation and then the water utility

[12:05] would throw in 5,000 that would cover the project total besides legal

[12:11] publications for the additional appropriations which we already have

[12:14] budget for that for publications for this year. Okay.

[12:20] [clears throat] Have you talked to the Ripley County

[12:23] Foundation yet? >> Yeah, we put it in.

[12:27] » Okay. If we were not to get it,

[12:33] then wastewater could pitch in the same as water. We just chose water because

[12:38] most of our emergency notifications that would go on that sign

[12:43] would have to do with the water department mostly.

[12:46] » Yes. Grant. I would also opiate money both restricted and

[12:50] unrestricted. Yeah. >> And we have, you know, machinery,

[12:53] equipment, CCD money, CCI money, which is all for general improvement, um, that

[12:59] we have budgeted. Um, the reason why, just in case you're wondering about the

[13:03] additional appropriations, we only have 15,000 budgeted for the 2026 year. So,

[13:08] we wouldn't want to exhaust that right off the bat. So, [clears throat]

[13:13] » okay.

[13:17] And we checked into opioid restricted. We checked into edit the uses of edit. I

[13:22] talked to John about it. All of that is approved reasons to spend that money.

[13:28] » Okay. Correct. >> That is correct.

[13:31] » And then I put the presentation that I showed you last week with all the the

[13:35] details and the the facts in it. >> Might have already answered the

[13:39] question, but has it we check with the county? Are they going to we're okay

[13:44] going putting sign up? >> Well, we're replacing one. Yes.

[13:47] » Okay. I I told Carrie just a little bit ago that I would go ahead and double

[13:52] check with them. >> Well, being the park's putting some of

[13:54] their money in it, I say [laughter]

[13:58] » Ripley County doesn't require a permit if we're replacing an existing digital

[14:02] sign. >> Okay. Okay.

[14:06] » I mean, it's the same size. It's not like we're getting something, you know,

[14:10] a big monstrosity out there >> fixing something that's been neglecting

[14:14] for >> and the top is beautiful. And I think

[14:16] it's [clears throat] beautiful for someone for that top to be redone like

[14:19] that. It's awesome.

[14:23] » And it kind of keeps the old but puts in a little

[14:26] » great I mean not only a great communication device but it's a great

[14:29] first impression and you know it it and you guys can put whatever you want

[14:34] up on it. So

[14:38] » if it will handle everything from end we'll get the Ripley County sign off.

[14:42] Um, we do all the manufacturing of the the top part, you know, we'll do all the

[14:47] the LEDs, the faces. We don't build the digital signs, but we do work with that

[14:52] vendor. So, >> we'll remove, we'll install, we even

[14:56] offer maintenance agreements, you know, down the road if you guys want us to

[14:59] service it once a year, clean it, and [cough] we do all of that. So,

[15:05] » okay.

[15:09] So, what

[15:13] do we need to do? Motion to go >> just go forward with trying to get the

[15:18] money from the community foundation and >> we need to vote on

[15:22] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[15:27] I think that's a good idea. I bet. Yes.

[15:32] » I like the sign. I like the idea, but I this I don't think we're crushing it and

[15:35] we got to take it a little bit. I'm nervous about the money and some other

[15:39] things. So, I want to say how I'm going to abstain or say no. One of the two.

[15:45] [snorts and laughter] >> Okay.

[15:47] » Say we've been talking about this for >> It's been going on for almost a year

[15:51] with the two grants. >> I haven't been involved in the fact that

[15:54] » Yeah, I gave you the proposal. >> Well, I'm all about making stuff that

[15:57] used to work work. So, I'm definitely for it. I think it's a good statement

[16:00] for our town. It's a good way to communicate. cuz I don't see any

[16:03] negatives in taking something that's sitting out there and rotten away and

[16:08] making it work. So, I'm going to vote for it. I agree with that part.

[16:11] » So, how do we need to record this to go ahead um and apply for Ripley County and

[16:17] then also start additional appropriations

[16:19] » if that's what they're telling you to do.

[16:21] » Well, I'm Yeah, I wanted to say it out loud what they were voting on.

[16:26] » All right. So, I'll make a motion to approve going

[16:30] forward with the appropriations and to go for the grant from the Ripley County

[16:36] Community Foundation. >> Okay.

[16:38] » Then that makes me the second. >> All right. Thank you. Thank you, Carrie,

[16:42] very much. >> If I want to buy for this, do I get

[16:45] access to it? >> You will have a pass. [laughter]

[16:49] » That could be a bad idea. >> Someone will Morgan will have to screen

[16:52] us.

[16:56] » Yes. No problem. Thank you. You guys have a good weekend.

[16:59] » You too. >> Hey, before you leave, can you put like

[17:03] channel 5t or something like that? >> They preloaded for the demo. I don't

[17:08] know if you can or [laughter] not. Sorry.

[17:10] » Um, how long would [clears throat] it No, quick question. How long would it

[17:13] take once we say okay and then >> take to make it?

[17:17] » Yeah, we order and it's normally four or five weeks when we get it and then we

[17:22] can manufacture everything in the meantime. So, I you know,

[17:25] » maybe six weeks would be the the longest.

[17:27] » Okay. >> But I would say that four to six we'll

[17:29] have everything done. >> Yeah.

[17:31] » I think the weather um I know it's 60day so we'll be out of the cold weather. We

[17:36] can't paint under 40 degrees but I think we'll be out of that.

[17:39] » Yeah, we should be out of that. >> Let's hope we are.

[17:42] » Yeah, I know, right? Okay. Thank you guys.

[17:44] » Thank you. >> Thank you.

[17:47] » Okay, next item is funding. That's That's what that

[17:52] » Okay, that was the other day. All right, we're on to reports and the marshall,

[17:57] you're up. >> I'll make this short and quick since I

[17:59] already got a president.

[18:04] Oh, Sher uh not Cheryl. Morgan has finished her training. So, Morgan, you

[18:09] want to step up here and tell them what your training was and what you learned

[18:12] and what it was called? Because I wrote it down and I left it somewhere. So, you

[18:15] get to tell them >> it was the emergency responder uh

[18:19] clinician certification. I have not there.

[18:21] » They they won't be able to hear you.

[18:27] » So, while she's on her way up here to get closer, this is what you guys

[18:30] approved for us to take out of my opiate money and spend. What was that?

[18:35] » Six >> $6 or $800 that you guys approved. And

[18:38] uh she jumped on it right away, knocked it out, got all her ride time in with

[18:42] it. Um, we have actually utilized her actually just Tuesday night we utilized

[18:48] her with the sheriff's department in a huge way and just the sheriff deputies

[18:53] and EMS and everybody was just kind of like, "Wow, this really works." So, we

[18:58] have been able to utilize her position on multiple things and surrounding

[19:02] departments are starting to see what she's doing and how it's working. So,

[19:06] uh, we're excited to keep moving forward with it. But go ahead. What? What was

[19:10] this? >> Emergency responder clinician was what

[19:13] the training that I went to. So, I've applied for the certification. I'm just

[19:17] waiting for it to come through. >> Okay.

[19:20] » She got all that done. While she's up here, I would also like for you guys to

[19:25] um and I believe I spoke with Cheryl about this. She'll remind me this can

[19:28] come out of my restricted opiate money. >> And I also have plenty of money in

[19:33] training. So either or we could utilize it probably for a a Narcan training

[19:38] course which would make her a certified trainer for administering Narcan. Um I

[19:43] think it's 180 $180 uh for her to get this training and

[19:48] everything else. It's just another another asset to us uh when it comes to

[19:54] to dealing with the problems and stuff around here. Thank goodness. It seems

[19:58] like I don't want to jinx the state and the county and all of us, but looks like

[20:02] that opiate use is kind of on a downside a little bit, but it'll be back. We go

[20:06] meth and then we go opiates and then we go meth and then we So, it'll be back

[20:10] around before you know it. So, uh that's something that I think would be huge. U

[20:15] we train a lot with Milin. Uh she's getting ready to take over all of the we

[20:21] have several things that we do. um working with the elderly, uh mental

[20:26] illnesses, suicidals, several things that Morgan is going to start uh doing

[20:32] all the training for law enforcement with us and mileing. And then there will

[20:36] just be another thing that she can train not only just law enforcement, but EMS,

[20:40] fire departments, even even people on the street that want to administer. So,

[20:46] everybody's got their opinion about Narcan.

[20:48] My opinion is if that's my son or daughter, I want somebody in our camp

[20:52] and that's how I respond to every call. So I think I' I' asking for you guys to

[20:57] approve the $180 to get her certified in that also.

[21:02] » Okay, I'll make commission to approve. >> Second.

[21:08] » Thank you. >> Other than that, the activity

[21:10] » Congratulations, Morgan. Uh the

[21:14] » congratulations. uh the activity report.

[21:18] Uh things, if you guys remember, we went through

[21:21] the the pretty good snowstorm that we had back in December. Thank goodness.

[21:26] That's like the only one we've had so far. But, uh definitely busy on that.

[21:30] Cold air keeps everybody in. Really wasn't uh really wasn't a lot going on.

[21:36] U me personally, I had to get rid of some hours. So, uh, I I was off a little

[21:42] bit there in December and everything else, but, uh, other than that,

[21:45] [clears throat] I don't really have anything else on you guys. Uh, I

[21:50] got some stuff. You added the other stuff on down at later, didn't you,

[21:54] Carol? >> Yeah, the insurance and stuff has.

[21:57] » Okay. Yep. That's all I got. >> All right. Thank you, Brian. Appreciate

[22:01] you. >> You have Who's your ordinance? Yes, sir.

[22:07] » This is drugs and summon. Is it kind of bad or pretty good?

[22:13] » I don't want to jinx myself. Um,

[22:17] [clears throat] you know, Sunman gets a gets a bad report when it comes to uh

[22:21] statistics and stuff like that. But I also want to remind people that the

[22:25] Sunman address goes, somebody helped me out here, but

[22:29] it's damn near from, excuse me, I'm sorry, is per from Dover all the way to

[22:33] County Route 600, from State Route 48 all the way up into Franklin County. And

[22:38] even the EMS is where they get their statistic numbers from. We respond to

[22:44] one or two gas stations in St. Leon. So even in the past when everybody was

[22:48] like, man, there's a lot of heroin and Simon. No, there's a lot of runs, but a

[22:54] lot of those were at the gas stations in St. Leon where people would shoot up

[22:58] coming across 74 and then go into the bathrooms or something up at the gas

[23:02] stations or sit in their car and go out. So, as I mean, every town has it drugs

[23:07] problems. Uh I don't see a lot. I really want to tip my hat to uh Indiana State

[23:12] Police and uh Ripley County Sheriff's Office both. But uh if you notice up

[23:19] here in in Sunman, there's a lot of state troopers. There's there's quite a

[23:22] few that hang out up here and we're close to the interstate and I could name

[23:26] some state troopers names that have done some very good drug interdiction around

[23:30] here for us. >> So the ones they catch, they just turn

[23:34] them loose the next day or a week or how's that?

[23:37] » I think the prosecutor's office been getting a lot better uh through the

[23:40] years on on a on putting them away. And uh if you'll notice if you if you stay

[23:44] up on it, they're starting to get to where and John can help me out with

[23:47] this. I see Ripley County prosecutors, they're starting to file more habitual

[23:51] on stuff. They get tired of seeing the same people going on and on. So

[23:55] eventually they nail them with a habitual and they get them put away a

[23:57] lot longer. But u you know, a lot of people want to blame prosecutors for

[24:03] people not staying in jail. State legislation, their hands are tied on a

[24:06] lot of stuff, too. Judges can only sentence so much, you know. Uh I think

[24:11] uh Ripley County as a whole, Sunman's got a huge support when it comes from

[24:15] prosecutor's office, the judges down the list. I think Sunman sets pretty good. I

[24:21] I really do. Compared to a lot of the calls and the activity that I see in

[24:25] some of the surrounding towns, I'm I'm I'm h never happy. As long as there's

[24:31] drugs here, we're not happy. But I'm happy with where Sunman is right now. I

[24:35] really am. And I think the future looks very good for us. Well, I think I think

[24:39] the people does the drugs, a lot of them know it's like a turn style, you know,

[24:43] they they get in back out and they just go through the

[24:48] » I know that's that's sad. That part is sad.

[24:51] » We just keep sending them down there and sooner or later the state of Indiana

[24:54] will finally put them away for good. But, uh, but, you know, you just got to

[24:58] stay hot on it, you know, and like I said, I I I'm a oneman department. I got

[25:02] a lot of great reserves that come out and help me. Um, but I really got to tip

[25:07] my hat to uh state police and and Ripley County who's spends a lot of time up

[25:11] here and when they see that activity and they see those cars around,

[25:16] just like a guy going to break in your house, he sees a police car drive by,

[25:19] he's probably not going to break in. So, just like with that, you know, as long

[25:22] as we can be visible and and uh keep him coming back. So, I appreciate him. I

[25:27] don't know, maybe talk to Dunkin Donuts, get us a coffee shop put in or something

[25:31] close by to keep more closer. I don't know.

[25:33] » [clears throat] >> I guess like if you fly NRA flag in your

[25:36] yard, people aware what that means. You know, might give them a second say, you

[25:41] know, I don't want to go to this house. I know they got guns. [laughter]

[25:45] » Is Sunman good when it comes to drugs? There's no town good. They're always

[25:49] going to be here. >> But I think out of all small towns, uh,

[25:52] if you look at the population, you look at the manpower when it comes to law

[25:56] enforcement, and you put all that together, um, Sunman's [clears throat] a

[26:01] good community. There's a lot of great people. There's drugs in every

[26:04] community, but there is absolutely a lot of wonderful people in this community.

[26:08] And that outweighs the drug usage that's in this community by a long shot, I

[26:11] believe. >> So,

[26:15] » we just need more businesses back in town right now. It's like being a ghost

[26:18] town. >> It's coming. It's working. I think town

[26:22] of Summons pointed in the right direction. We keep going the way we're

[26:24] going. I think we're looking good. Hopefully, here in another year or two,

[26:27] they can get another full-time officer on. I can't talk about it too much, but

[26:31] I just had somebody talk to me about an opportunity that might uh kind of help

[26:35] us out. Maybe getting a getting another full fully paid officer.

[26:39] Haven't even talked clerk treasure about it. I literally just got off the phone

[26:42] with them before the meeting. But uh like I said, I we're pointing in the

[26:45] right direction. We got a great board and I can say this. I'm saying all this

[26:49] stuff and they already gave me my raise for the year. So, I'm good. They voted

[26:51] on that last year. But, uh we got a good clerk treasure. We got a good board. We

[26:56] got some good utility guys. Got some good reserves. We're pointing in the

[26:59] right direction. Just keep plotting along there.

[27:00] » We have a great team. >> Yep. And we got a good attorney, too. I

[27:04] don't want to leave him out. >> Wow.

[27:06] » Now I'm talking like an attorney if you [laughter] politics now.

[27:11] » All right. You guys done? >> Yep. Is anybody doing ordinances?

[27:14] » Um >> cuz it's on.

[27:17] » I know he wasn't going to be here. Uh I know that uh me and him have a uh we

[27:21] haven't said it yet, but I told him me and him needed to sit down and talk

[27:25] because we need to we need to crank him up a little bit. We need to uh man

[27:30] that's what I want to tell you guys. We finally reached out with Batesville

[27:33] contract signed. Cheryl's been in contact with their clerk treasure. Uh me

[27:38] and John and her was just talking about this right before the meeting. Set up a

[27:41] date and time and get over there and uh and I I think I I don't want to make it

[27:47] sound bad, but I think >> I have filed ordinances before when I

[27:51] was marshal last time and when you see them not really go anywhere, you get a

[27:55] little discouraged. So, I think once we get these piped into Batesville, we

[27:59] start seeing these roll through, get these people on it, make them be held

[28:03] accountable, I think you'll you'll see our ordinance guy really step up to the

[28:07] plate and start hammering these people. >> Yep.

[28:08] » I think that's true. >> Yep. All right. Thank you. So, there's

[28:12] your report. >> Uh we're going to skip utility report

[28:17] because nobody's here to do it. >> Yeah, he did send it over. I haven't had

[28:20] time to put it on paper yet. >> Okay.

[28:23] » I'll make sure I email it right away. >> Okay. No, but nothing.

[28:27] » No, no major repairs or replacement. >> Um, yes, we um

[28:33] Yeah, actually, I'll just go to the >> You did send it?

[28:37] » No, I didn't. Not for this month. Honor sent me everything.

[28:43] » Run down to it real quick. >> Um, we did have an we did enter an

[28:47] insurance claim for the ball field. Um, that windstorm took a a light pole down

[28:53] and all the lights. Um, they're still looking on finding a

[28:57] new vehicle or skid steer. The generators are being looked at the

[29:02] wastewater main lift station. Thank you, Morgan. [snorts]

[29:07] Lauram came out. He did call me, but I have not had time to return this call.

[29:12] He started his third semester at school. They're gathering quotes to clean wells

[29:17] four and five. Working with Brent Tag on setting up new phosphorus removal trial.

[29:22] Um, I think it was delayed because of the holiday because I know we've started

[29:25] that well before last month. B&H is coming out Tuesday to look at the

[29:30] grinder at the main lift station and give us prices

[29:34] um, and on a spare grinder to have on hand. Auto samplers been tabled with the

[29:40] weather and holidays. We did get one in from how do you say it? Hawk H,

[29:46] » but it was for a fully integrated auto sampler. It was like 13 grand, but not

[29:52] out of not really out out of like we could still probably do it and go after

[29:57] some grant money, but I didn't realize it was we thought like $800,000.

[30:02] [laughter] Um, the only lights they didn't get down

[30:07] were the Christmas tree and they can't get on that ground yet. So, if it stays

[30:11] cold, they might be able to. All the rest of the the lights are down.

[30:18] uh >> get the rest of the polls get fixed.

[30:21] » We have an account set up with Hawk >> now. Um they're pretty competitive

[30:26] against Blue Book, which is where we always order from. What did you ask me?

[30:30] » Did the rest of you had how many poles were down? Did they all get

[30:34] » just one? >> I was going to say

[30:35] » we thought the other ones were leaning and we reported them, but they did an

[30:39] on-site inspection and said the ground was not disturbed. So they think they've

[30:42] been leaning like that for years. So that is something that we might want to

[30:48] start looking to address to prevent anything else from happening over there.

[30:55] Um we came up with some ideas of call um going after some funding through Indiana

[31:00] Park and Wreck um Duke Energy and there was another one

[31:07] I can't remember and then Ripley Rising Sun and then maybe Ripley County. So, we

[31:12] that just was put on our radar when he told us about those lights.

[31:18] » Um

[31:23] Oh, yeah. And they're both sick. [clears throat]

[31:28] » Okay. Thank you. >> He wanted me to compare to what he was

[31:32] supposed to tell you for this month, and I just didn't have an opportunity to get

[31:36] on the computer this afternoon after I came back from my nap.

[31:41] Well, the good news is is while you're talking, you're up now.

[31:44] » Oh, great. And I did I was able to send you all of this in advance of the

[31:49] meeting minutes. Um I'm using a little bit more a new

[31:54] format that's closer to the gateway approved method of a meeting memo. I

[31:59] think it's easier to read

[32:06] the December utility. Oh, I have no utility adjustments. I will have on

[32:12] Micah's empty house. >> How long you been sick?

[32:16] » Um, Connor, two days. Austin, one day. >> I was joking.

[32:21] » Oh, >> there were no utility adjustments.

[32:23] » Oh, >> that's what I read.

[32:25] » Yeah, I we did estimates last month, so there was a couple that were didn't come

[32:29] out right. And for the end of year in December, um,

[32:37] we paid out $426,5624.

[32:44] And I gave you the fund trial balances, which is an endofear report, fund

[32:49] report. And then we had an auto um we had to

[32:54] transfer money for the end of the year in all of the areas I told you we would

[33:00] gas and electric insurance telephone

[33:07] [snorts] and the town marshall um because and

[33:12] unemployment because um we gave those incidental raises for to cover the

[33:18] insurance. So they just came in a little over. So I am asking for a signature on

[33:23] that because we did talk about we knew that that would happen.

[33:27] It's not a big deal because we are allowed to move from one line item to

[33:32] one line item. We just can't move it from fund to fund without prior

[33:38] approval. Certified payroll was given to Randy.

[33:45] And we do have some part of the end of year. We had a bank

[33:51] wreck um correction and it's a write off.

[33:57] [clears throat and cough] Is that later? Yep. I got to save that one.

[34:07] Okay. the Wix, which is how we do all of our emails

[34:13] and um our website. I called them up and said, "Hey, are you

[34:18] going to send me an invoice?" And because they automatically take it. I

[34:22] said, "Are you going to send me an invoice? I need to be ready for it." And

[34:25] they said, "No, no, we're not going to send it till after the end of the year."

[34:28] Well, guess what they did? They sent it before the end of the year. So, I wanted

[34:33] you guys to be aware of that. it is considered to to be a late entry. Um, so

[34:40] I wanted to make sure you approved it and signed off on it for me for the

[34:45] auditors.

[34:54] I had to do a minor payroll um correction.

[35:00] So that was considered late. There's nothing

[35:04] abnormal about it except the date that it was put into the computer

[35:11] [snorts] and I know what they like and what they

[35:14] don't like and I would like your approval on those two please.

[35:27] » And then we have a $75 write off um due to theft which I have

[35:35] um $75. Um it did not affect a customer's

[35:39] account at all. It only affects the town summon at this point.

[35:46] The customer account is correct. Has the the deposit in it. We just don't

[35:51] actually have the money. It wasn't deposited

[35:58] here. Yep.

[36:10] I talked to John. This is what we turned into John and the state board of

[36:17] accounts as indirect losses due to the theft. And he says you have to make a

[36:22] decision to I'll let you talk about that part because it's a little confusing to

[36:28] me.

[36:31] Well, the the issue is whether or not you want to pursue a civil

[36:38] remedy on some of this stuff.

[36:44] Um, direct

[36:49] losses can be claimed as part of a

[36:56] punishing proceeding, whether it's in the criminal

[36:59] court or whether it's from the state board of accounts.

[37:03] Indirect losses are things that if you got if we want to

[37:11] pursue them, we would have to file some kind of

[37:14] a civil claim. Um,

[37:19] at some point there's the issue that you face in every civil court of

[37:28] even if you can win, is there anything to collect?

[37:33] and the issue of how much time and money you want to put

[37:38] into trying to collect this amount of money.

[37:46] » Okay? >> Because it's not the kind of thing, it's

[37:49] not in civil court. It isn't a situation where the loser pays. Everybody has to

[37:53] pay their own costs of [snorts]

[37:58] fighting. And when I originally turned it in to the state board of accounts, I

[38:02] thought like their fees that these fees would become part of it, but that's not

[38:06] the case. Okay.

[38:13] Well, it's also I mean, it's also not I'm not

[38:17] trying to kick the ball or kick the can down the field, but you have you have

[38:24] two years to decide to pursue this. from the date of loss.

[38:32] » Okay.

[38:38] It's a lot that we shouldn't have to eat in my opinion.

[38:42] » But it might cost a more to go after it. >> Yeah.

[38:46] » Just the amount that we go after. >> Yeah.

[38:49] question is, is it worth the fight and spending the money to chase it and then

[38:54] paying a collections agency to go after it until it's paid?

[38:59] » You might end up in the negative >> even more.

[39:04] » That's my that's potential problem, >> John. That's potential problem with

[39:10] going after a a rel a a small amount.

[39:18] » Hey John, how does that work on victim services from the prosecutor's office?

[39:22] » They'll go for direct direct >> go for direct reimbursement.

[39:28] » Yeah, I would have never even probably typed it up if

[39:31] » which we should be getting from the state

[39:34] board of accounts anyway, but

[39:40] » [laughter] >> Okay.

[39:43] From the state board of accounts proceeding, we should be giving those

[39:47] reimbursement that reimbursement anyway.

[39:56] » Kind of feel like it'd be like chasing a snowflake. When it hits the ground, it's

[40:00] going to melt anyway, right? By the time you get manh hours and court cost and

[40:04] everything else going back and forth to court over it

[40:06] » travel time. [snorts]

[40:11] » Yeah. Well, I mean that's what I say. It's it's a

[40:14] » as long as we recoup. >> You have to decide what whether it's

[40:19] worth it to get a small amount.

[40:24] I'm not saying it's not something that that isn't owed,

[40:33] but how much does it cost to go get it? >> What about small claims? Just out of

[40:42] curiosity, >> that's exactly where we would go.

[40:45] » It's so small that it would be in small claims. [laughter]

[40:48] Yes.

[40:54] Okay. But we have two years to >> you have two years to decide to pursue

[40:58] it. >> Okay. So maybe wait and see how

[41:03] » things proceed

[41:11] table it. >> Yeah.

[41:15] Unfortunately we have to I think for now Need

[41:24] a motion to table it then. >> Okay, I'll make a motion to table.

[41:29] » I'll second. [clears throat]

[41:32] » And then the last thing on the 2026 recurring vendor list I sent over to

[41:36] you. There's no change from 2025 to 2026, but ordinance 20203

[41:43] um says that we have to have an approved vendor list.

[41:47] And all that is is it makes me able to pay bills under the threshold that are

[41:52] appropriated and um budgeted for. >> Okay.

[41:58] » So, this is all part of the ongoing intermed.

[42:11] » There's one for 2025. >> Yeah.

[42:16] [snorts] Thought I had two of them. Looks like the same thing.

[42:19] » It does. There's no change. >> It is the same thing. This one says

[42:24] » 2025 and 2026. We haven't picked up no other additional

[42:31] ones that we go to all the time.

[42:36] Actually deleted a lot of vendors this year for the end of the year that we

[42:42] didn't use at all. Okay.

[42:51] Need a motion to approve this? >> Yes. And everything else I gave you.

[42:55] [clears throat] [laughter]

[42:57] » You want to start with meeting memorandum?

[43:01] » Okay.

[43:07] I'll make motion to approve the meeting memor memorandum.

[43:10] » Second. and the utility adjustments which there

[43:14] were none this month. Fund report and financial statements.

[43:18] » Okay. Make a motion to approve. Second. >> APV registers for December 2025.

[43:26] » Motion to approve. Second. >> Late software entries and write off

[43:30] related to theft. Oh, >> but those are the ones you just

[43:37] » I sent over to you. >> No, those are indirect losses due to

[43:41] theft. These are the ones we had to put in the software in the Keystone software

[43:47] late. >> Okay.

[43:48] » And the $75. >> Okay. Gotcha.

[43:51] » All right. Sorry. I'll make a motion to approve. Second.

[43:55] » And appropriations transfer list for end of year.

[43:59] » Make a motion to approve. >> Oh, and I missed one. Thank you. I heard

[44:03] you, Don. Um, we would like I'm going to the alliance training in March and

[44:11] Austin and Joe would like to go for the wastewater part. Um, I think it'll be a

[44:17] good thing to stay within our compliance plan for training staff. They'll both

[44:21] get 14 hours continuing education. [clears throat]

[44:26] » I think I need it approved though because it'll include hotel stay, um,

[44:30] the registration fee and then I don't think travel because they could

[44:35] probably use a town truck and go down and then a couple of meals according to

[44:41] the employee manual. >> Yeah,

[44:43] » they feed us most of the meals. So, [clears throat]

[44:47] » okay. Yep. I think that's good that they that

[44:51] come out of [laughter] >> H.

[44:53] » Does that come out of waste water? >> Um training.

[44:57] I think it's in water. Underwater. >> Underwater. Okay.

[45:01] Um, can I double check that? >> Yeah.

[45:04] » What when is it what we doing? >> It's say March March 15th, I think. 1617

[45:11] or 17 189. It's a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

[45:16] If we go down on Monday, they can go to the I think that you guys

[45:23] do the free CPR training for us, right? For because

[45:27] Austin's going to need it. Okay. So, we don't need we don't need to

[45:32] go down Monday. >> Is it is it still down there at the same

[45:37] place? >> French Lake.

[45:40] » My personal opinion is when it comes to training at that far of a drive, I'd go

[45:44] down [cough] feel rested and ready to focus next morning. Mhm. Well, there are

[45:49] if you go to the roundts >> that ne if you go they have the CPR

[45:53] certification and right after that they have the roundts and you do get

[45:58] educational points for attending those and I think that starts at 9 or 10 in

[46:02] the morning. >> So

[46:05] it would be the difference between two nights and three nights. So it probably

[46:09] be about what $400 difference maybe.

[46:15] [snorts] All right.

[46:18] » But I don't want to leave a workload behind us either

[46:23] because Connor will have to do all testing and kind of maintain the fort

[46:26] while we're gone. >> Well, he has Brian, too. That

[46:30] » get it approved for Monday night. But if you don't

[46:33] » There you go. I could do that and then check with them if they want to go.

[46:38] » Or maybe just Connor will want to go or just Austin will want to go.

[46:44] » So, it's Connor and Austin. Oh, no. Joe and and Austin confused me.

[46:52] » Austin's last name. >> Hammond.

[46:56] » Hammond. [snorts] >> I'll make motion to approve the

[47:00] training.

[47:06] » I'll just put training, lodging, and travel.

[47:09] » Did you see your motion? >> Yep.

[47:10] » I didn't hear the motion. Okay. Will your motion was to pay cover?

[47:14] » Yeah. For the >> Okay. Second. the training classes.

[47:16] Yeah. >> And then the last one's the recurring

[47:18] vendor list for 2026. >> I'll make a motion to approve that.

[47:22] » Okay.

[47:27] » I'll second that. >> Thank you.

[47:29] » Same. >> Okay.

[47:32] [cough and clears throat] >> All right. It takes us to old business

[47:36] and the first item is the second reading of the planning and zoning permit.

[47:47] Does anyone present want to hear it written read or read out loud? It's

[47:52] written already.

[47:58] Doesn't sound like it. >> Okay.

[48:06] gratification. [clears throat]

[48:11] » That's so for second reading. We just need

[48:15] » I have it here. >> Motion to it up.

[48:24] » Oh, I already signed it. >> Read it [clears throat] twice. So, we

[48:28] need a motion to adopt. >> Yep.

[48:32] » You you read it and primarily adopted it. So today would be the second chance

[48:37] to talk about it and then finally adopt it.

[48:43] So that's why he asked if anybody in the public wanted it read out. No one none

[48:48] of them have said yes, I'd like to hear it. So unless you guys have more

[48:54] discussions to make, all you need to do is

[48:57] » Okay, do I'll make motion to approve the ordinance.

[49:01] » That one I'm still against. So maybe we >> Okay, I'll second.

[49:11] » I should have put the insurance and receding up in my

[49:15] » insurance. >> I don't that

[49:20] uh 2026 insurance policy ratification. Yeah, that's maybe something that it's

[49:27] unfinished in the sense that it's not done yet, but it's not.

[49:36] So basically the insurance bill came in at being

[49:46] uh $351 more dollars [clears throat] than you thought it was

[49:53] going to be.

[49:57] It was a difference of >> terrorism.

[50:00] » Yeah. Yeah, the box was checked on the policy, but the numbers didn't go over

[50:05] didn't pull over that 351. So, you approved 29425,

[50:12] but we ended up having to pay $351 more and I had to pay it or then we'd have an

[50:18] insurance lapse. So, he said we could take it and

[50:22] » you can pay it and the council can what's called ratify it. Say yes, I'm

[50:27] glad you turned 50. rules. [snorts]

[50:43] » What was it that got missed again? >> Terrorism.

[50:51] » Okay. That could be very broad, right?

[50:55] » Yep. Yep. It would have to be deemed a terrorism attack before that insurance

[51:01] would kick in. >> That's correct. Well, the best news is

[51:03] is for $351, we're not not covered by insurance currently.

[51:09] » Yeah. Which we can't have that. Okay.

[51:23] If you don't want the terrorism coverage, you can probably ask the

[51:26] insurance company to cancel it. Go ahead and take it.

[51:33] » What's that? >> That's all we need to do. Motion to

[51:35] ratify. >> Yeah. Make a motion to ratify.

[51:39] » Thank you. >> Second.

[51:41] » I have to put the dollar amount in the memo.

[51:43] » I would. Okay. >> Thank you.

[51:47] Uh, disposal of interceptor and insurance receiping.

[51:52] » Yeah, we need Brian because I think Are we gonna Were you wanting to scrap that

[51:56] vehicle instead of put it up for remove equipment and bid it out?

[52:01] » Thank you, Cheryl. >> You're welcome.

[52:03] » That guy was a pain in the butt. >> And [laughter] I kept trying to reach

[52:07] out to him in Toledo, Ohio multiple multiple times. He told Andy we didn't,

[52:11] but me and Cheryl was able to prove that we both had done it by email income.

[52:15] Mhm. >> So, Cheryl finally put his feet to the

[52:18] fire and Andy Hmel, the insurance agent, did also [snorts] and she finally got

[52:23] everything settled and done a hell of a job on on getting all the equipment and

[52:26] stuff covered, too, which brought it up a pretty good penny if you notice, which

[52:30] covers what we wanted to do with some left. Um, for the old one out here,

[52:38] do we have to set it out here and take bids on it or can I just find somebody

[52:42] find the person that will give me the most for it for scrap and scrap it?

[52:47] » You have how much how much is it worth? >> That's what it goes by.

[52:53] » All jokes aside, scrap price is what? Probably 160 180 a ton maybe. So 3 400

[52:59] bucks. Um, I've had a couple people tell me that there's some places over in

[53:04] Cincinnati that would give me $1,000 for it

[53:07] because of the motor training that's in it.

[53:11] [snorts] So, I, you know, but if I set it out there, I don't see anybody

[53:14] putting a silk good for $1,000. I see somebody trying to get it for 200 so

[53:18] they can throw it on a trailer and take it down to Ralph and make him a hundred

[53:21] bucks. [snorts] Um,

[53:25] » or we can throw it on a trailer and we can haul her down here to Rouse

[53:27] ourselves. >> Well, that's that's what I was going to

[53:31] say. You're you're allowed to dispose of of

[53:37] um dimminimous items and and broken items and and trash items,

[53:46] uh, things that don't have significant value. You're allowed to dispose of

[53:49] those without going through a bidding process. Sounds like it's well under the

[53:56] limit. >> What is the limit

[53:58] » to be able to do it? Uh 7500

[54:04] » I didn't know if there was any clarifications due to the fact that the

[54:07] vehicle had a title. >> That's what I was thinking.

[54:09] » No, >> and it was total. It's deemed totaled.

[54:15] » It definitely totaled. And then I mean we done it because the insurance company

[54:20] told us to told us to get all of our equipment and all of our uh lights and

[54:24] sirens off of it and test them and see what worked and what didn't. So

[54:28] obviously you're going to tear stuff up when you take all that stuff out.

[54:32] » Mhm. >> So

[54:35] I mean I can call around and see what we can get for it and scrap. We might be

[54:40] able to get more than what the steel market is. But whoever gets is coming

[54:45] after it. I if somebody buys it like that, you know,

[54:49] if we just want to throw it on a trailer and take it to Ralph Schneider, then

[54:53] yeah, [clears throat] I'll do that. But other than that, if somebody wants to

[54:55] buy it for a motor or a trainy or something from the city, then they can

[54:58] truck out here. >> If you're going to sell it, you have to

[55:03] put it up for sealed bid then, right? >> Yeah.

[55:07] » If we dispose of it, >> those over there would be considered

[55:11] they're junkyards. It's just like a >> you pulling saves and stuff like that as

[55:15] well. >> That would give you a little bit more

[55:17] than your scrapyard. >> Yeah.

[55:21] » But if we do do sealed bids, do we have to do a month or can we just like

[55:25] » No. >> Two weeks done.

[55:27] » Yep. We can set any >> gives us approval to accept whatever we

[55:30] get. We >> can set any reasonable time limit as

[55:34] long as it's published and people know that it exists.

[55:37] » So we could set just like a meeting to open up sealed bids. Good.

[55:42] » And if you get [clears throat] no sealed bids, then you're free to do with it as

[55:45] you like. >> Then you're free to do with what what

[55:47] you like anyway. >> Let's do that.

[55:50] » Drag it out here and put [snorts] >> Yeah.

[55:53] » I just don't want it to have to sit out here for a month at a time. We finally

[55:56] was >> I don't see how is it responsible to

[55:58] take bids on a car that's not safe and totaled.

[56:01] » Oh, they're buying it as is. That's That's the world we live in.

[56:06] » That's >> they're not going to be able to drive it

[56:09] to the title. It's total. I [snorts] mean,

[56:12] » I don't Is the thing drivable? >> You drag one wheel, but you can move it

[56:17] [laughter] down the road.

[56:19] » It's going to take a roll back to move it.

[56:21] » Okay. >> Or a skid steer and shove it on a

[56:23] trailer. >> Well, it's in it's in disrepair.

[56:26] » Yeah, it's broken. It's broke. >> So, Cheryl, the answer to your question

[56:29] is is you get a salvage title and then you have to send pictures and get a

[56:34] rebuilt title, which then takes the responsibility off of us and puts it on

[56:37] the >> So, no, we're good. Yeah, we're good.

[56:40] No, we're good in that regard. That's always

[56:43] » I just didn't want to, you know, >> I like the disposal idea because a lot

[56:47] less work and a lot less >> Yes.

[56:49] » I was just trying to get a few more dollars.

[56:51] » Take it to Schneider. >> We can take it to Ralphs or take it to

[56:54] Greensburg or wherever. Scrapyard.

[57:00] [snorts]

[57:03] » Is that what you're thinking? Grab it.

[57:07] Are you gonna stand by the crusher and >> nope in there as it goes away?

[57:14] » Zach might stand there and have a few tears roll down his face, but it'll be

[57:19] all right. >> He'll do that anyway. It's Thursday.

[57:23] » Yeah, we can just scrap it. That way we don't have to go through the silk bids

[57:26] and all the >> Okay, I'll make a motion to scrap scrap

[57:31] it. >> What you want to do with it?

[57:35] » Second. Time for it to go. It's been sitting around long enough. 104.

[57:40] » Thank you. Uh that was Carol Dawn.

[57:43] » Yep. [laughter]

[57:46] » And then I [clears throat] I have I need help too because I've never been in this

[57:52] position before and it is an issue. We temporarily borrowed 18774 from Rainy

[57:59] Day to purchase the new 2020 Silverado. >> Mhm. We were able to get 2124692

[58:06] from the insurance company. So that leaves $2,472.92

[58:12] that I need to know where to put it [snorts]

[58:17] because if we rece it generally, it has to go in next year's budget, but we

[58:21] still have to write a check to pay for the new decals for the truck.

[58:24] » So he had recommended maybe just put it all in the rainy day,

[58:28] » right? And >> and then pay the decals out of the rainy

[58:31] day. and put it pay pay it all back to the rainy day fund

[58:35] » and then vote to pay the details out of the rainy day fund.

[58:43] » Simple enough. I'll make a motion to do that. Put in the rainy day rainy day

[58:48] we're not and then buy our decals up. >> There we go.

[58:52] » What? >> And yes and to buy the decals up

[58:55] [clears throat] >> so we don't have to have another vote.

[58:58] [snorts] >> Okay. And

[59:00] » we got approved for the decals, too. >> A rainy day.

[59:04] » We'll get her done. >> Motion.

[59:05] » And if it looks good enough, get the other one done.

[59:10] » All right. Next up is

[59:13] that guy sitting at the end of the table down there. We have to contract him for

[59:17] the year. >> And it's the same as it has been for

[59:23] well >> since you know when all the presidents

[59:26] started. What? 1774. I'll go there. >> 1774. I haven't been here that long.

[59:32] » Well, we didn't have our first president until when?

[59:34] » Well, president of the United States under the Constitution.

[59:37] » Yeah. >> George Washington took his first

[59:39] inaugural on March 3rd, 1789. >> See, I knew you were old.

[59:47] [clears throat] So, essentially for the year service,

[59:50] it's the same as it's been since >> I don't think I got get a raise this

[59:54] year. >> Since I've been here. Does anybody have

[59:57] any objections >> now?

[1:00:01] Obviously, yes, you signed the contract. The contract also has a provision in it

[1:00:05] that says whenever you tell me I'm done, I'm done.

[1:00:09] » I'll make a motion to keep the old boy around.

[1:00:12] » Secondbody [laughter] else.

[1:00:17] » Sure you would. >> Okay.

[1:00:21] » Oh my goodness. Next up, >> in new business is the SIR PC

[1:00:26] representative appointment. Now, here's something more [laughter]

[1:00:31] interest. It's got a lot more flavor to it. Yes. [snorts]

[1:00:35] » Okay. >> I cannot do it this year.

[1:00:39] Southeast Regional Planning is a fantastic organization that gets a lot

[1:00:44] of money for a lot of worthy causes and and for and for uh towns and counties

[1:00:51] and townships and plus and what you're so what you're appointing is somebody to

[1:00:56] sit on their board that sort of sets their budget and employs their director.

[1:01:04] It's been Mary McCarti for many a year and uh then also has to go I they have

[1:01:10] to go to 13 meetings a year I guess a monthly

[1:01:15] meeting and then an annual meeting. >> Okay.

[1:01:21] [laughter] >> And it's a very worthy cause and it's a

[1:01:25] great organization. Anybody that has ever thought about maybe doing sitting

[1:01:29] on that board should put their name forward to be appointed because it's

[1:01:33] really good. And you learn a lot about where charitable dollars and grant money

[1:01:42] comes from and where it can go.

[1:01:47] » So your board meetings are the second Wednesday quarterly.

[1:01:53] » Yeah. on the months of January, April, August and October. So for

[1:01:57] » it's not even not even as many meetings as I just said.

[1:02:00] » The executive board if you are so appointed

[1:02:04] then you would be meeting on the morning of the second Wednesday of every month.

[1:02:14] So basically all all this individual will be committing to is four meetings a

[1:02:18] year.

[1:02:22] » [snorts]

[1:02:28] » Okay. >> Do we have anybody?

[1:02:31] » Sure. Cheryl says she can't. >> You say you couldn't do it.

[1:02:36] » What? I'm sorry. >> No, I can't do it. I didn't make it to

[1:02:40] meetings last year. >> I was before she took it.

[1:02:43] » Yeah, >> she took it.

[1:02:48] » I wish I could. I just don't want to commit and then not show up.

[1:02:56] » So really only got to go to three meetings this year because the second

[1:02:58] Wednesday of the month has already came and went for January.

[1:03:02] » Okay. >> April of September.

[1:03:09] » I assume they're having those meetings at their office in Brazil. Cheryl, is

[1:03:13] that right? >> Mhm.

[1:03:18] What time of day do they meet? Lunch. >> Um, us 10 10:00 usually.

[1:03:25] » I'm out. >> Likewise.

[1:03:28] Okay. So, we need to When do they need to know by?

[1:03:33] » Um, they'll probably need to know. >> Well,

[1:03:39] » is going to sit empty until we fill it. Yeah,

[1:03:41] » but basically if we never fill it, they're going to feel like a someone

[1:03:45] doesn't care. They won't even send anybody to our

[1:03:48] » next >> there. Anybody interested?

[1:03:53] » Temporary. >> I wasn't quite sure what it was all

[1:03:54] about. That's why I What's that for? >> Southeast Regional Southeast Indiana

[1:04:00] Regional Planning Commission. that organization that

[1:04:03] » when is there meeting >> uh second Wednesdays of the month in the

[1:04:08] morning >> in April, August and October. So you

[1:04:11] only have three meetings to go to. >> All those are meetings that they have.

[1:04:18] » Say that again. >> Company.

[1:04:20] » They used to meet there, but they've got a they've got an office

[1:04:25] building in Wales now. And I wasn't sure exactly where they were meeting. Oh, we

[1:04:31] got Well, they did have the building right behind McDonald's there.

[1:04:35] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[1:04:41] » You want to do it?

[1:04:44] » Yes. >> Sure. [laughter]

[1:04:47] » Wait. He waited for his wife to >> No, I was answering John's question.

[1:04:53] » He was worried about whether it was close to Grub or McDonald's. [laughter]

[1:04:58] » He's going to eat. We ended up with a a lunch. [laughter]

[1:05:05] » I think >> I think they've been

[1:05:08] » the last time I went to one, they catered the lunch in their office,

[1:05:13] » but you can still get McDonald's coffee before you go.

[1:05:16] » What's this? >> You can still get a coffee from

[1:05:18] McDonald's where you go. >> Yeah, that's true, too.

[1:05:20] » It's rolling pin. I think rolling pin probably.

[1:05:24] » I don't really know.

[1:05:29] I'm not I'm just I'm just saying it's a it's it's a I don't want to sound make

[1:05:34] it sound like it's a do nothing job because it's actually very important.

[1:05:38] You make some you make decisions about where

[1:05:43] money goes, >> but it's but it's middle of the day.

[1:05:47] » It's an easy interest to dissect it a little bit.

[1:05:54] » It was about >> and it's a great organ. It really is a

[1:05:56] great organization. It's a way to learn the representative.

[1:06:02] I think >> say the what

[1:06:04] » could like if Brian's interested and he wasn't the official representative

[1:06:10] could he show up sometimes at those meetings?

[1:06:13] » I don't think they're open to the public. It's it's a private

[1:06:15] organization. >> So, we just need to appoint someone.

[1:06:19] [laughter] >> I used to go

[1:06:20] » We need to appoint someone in our representation.

[1:06:23] » Yes.

[1:06:27] » Unless you're interested in [snorts] it, Don.

[1:06:29] » Sound like you are. >> What? [laughter]

[1:06:33] I'm throwing >> they're representing

[1:06:35] » I'm throwing darts over. >> Okay.

[1:06:39] » I think I did it before Cheryl took it and she took it over and did good. So,

[1:06:43] she's been doing it for a while and doing real good.

[1:06:48] » So, we want to table it and find somebody.

[1:06:51] » I don't think they can wait that long. It they're required to have so many.

[1:06:58] Well, SPC needs to have enough to have a quum for their money. If if all of the

[1:07:06] cities that have appointments drag their feet, [snorts] they don't have enough

[1:07:09] people to operate. Now, >> you need to know by April because that's

[1:07:13] when the next meeting. So, I'm saying you don't you don't have to pick anybody

[1:07:17] tonight, but if if n if none of the four of you want to do it,

[1:07:24] you should probably put some effort into finding somebody that's [snorts]

[1:07:29] good and willing before the next board meeting.

[1:07:34] » I could go, >> if it's only three

[1:07:38] meetings, I could probably get my schedule switched at work to work. I

[1:07:43] could do the night shift instead of the day shift

[1:07:46] or find coverage until the meeting's over.

[1:07:49] » It's a good idea.

[1:07:53] » It's only three times. So, for this year at least.

[1:07:59] Um, >> unless they put you on the executive

[1:08:01] board. >> How long do the meetings

[1:08:04] I'm trying to think how long? >> Cuz I don't have to eat. I mean, I can

[1:08:08] go through the meeting and then leave when the meeting's over. probably

[1:08:11] shorter than ours. >> No doubt. I I would plan on spending a

[1:08:16] couple hours there anyway. [snorts] >> Cut that Marshall report out next time

[1:08:20] then. >> Okay.

[1:08:25] All right. April, August, October. I can do it.

[1:08:31] » Okay. >> I have to

[1:08:32] » need a motion. >> I'll make a motion to appoint Carol as

[1:08:35] my representative for SIRC. >> Do it.

[1:08:40] Second. >> Yep.

[1:08:42] » Tag your grit. >> Carol, it really is a great

[1:08:44] organization. >> Oh, absolutely. I I absolutely agree.

[1:08:47] » Well, if they weren't meeting in the middle, you know, my work schedule, so

[1:08:51] it's it's bonkers, but I'm hoping by April it'll be calmed down to where it's

[1:08:56] not going to be an issue. >> Okay. Uh, next item in new business is

[1:09:03] the annual membership fees for Chamber of Commerce.

[1:09:05] » Do it right. It didn't look right. O, MCT, AIM, ADA, impact, and the alliance.

[1:09:13] » Here's that to sign off on to appoint Carol.

[1:09:16] » Um, >> catering the

[1:09:21] » only one that >> I could still work and then just, you

[1:09:24] know, listen while I'm clearing plates and getting drinks.

[1:09:30] » These are all our annuals. We always do the minimum.

[1:09:35] » Oh. Um, the only one that's different is the chamber is giving us an option to do

[1:09:39] an additional

[1:09:42] visionary partner for $113,

[1:09:49] [cough] but we just bought into their fifth

[1:09:52] Saturday program. [snorts] So, I was just going to ask the

[1:09:57] board if you could approve all the minimum membership fees.

[1:10:02] » The minimums. >> Yeah. So it would be um

[1:10:06] sorry >> 75

[1:10:08] » total allergy attack >> 75

[1:10:12] » cuz the visionary was 38 which brought it up to her 13.

[1:10:18] » So yeah that one oh I thought that was additional 113. You're right.

[1:10:22] » So [snorts] minimum's $75, right? Correct.

[1:10:28] » Yes. >> I'll make a motion to approve.

[1:10:30] » Yeah, I'll second. And then we do the 82 for I am MCT every year.

[1:10:38] [snorts]

[1:10:42] Yeah. I am

[1:10:47] [snorts] just before I have the meeting.

[1:10:50] » So what's that? $107. >> What is it?

[1:10:54] » Yeah.$ 107 for IL MCT, right? Because our population is between 701 and

[1:11:00] » 707. Sorry. >> Okay.

[1:11:07] County Chamber. >> Oh, yeah. We have to be on that

[1:11:10] » Alliance. >> You can't get rid of any of these

[1:11:14] because we go to trainings and we use every single one of them.

[1:11:18] » We're paying the minimum on all one. Let's see. One, two, [cough] three,

[1:11:23] four, five, six. Minimum on all six. >> And the Alliance and the AI one, they

[1:11:29] cover everybody. um all your utility staff.

[1:11:35] » What's the impact? >> Impact is just for me. [snorts]

[1:11:39] » Okay. >> All right. I'll make a motion to approve

[1:11:42] the minimum membership fees for these organizations.

[1:11:48] [snorts] >> Okay. That concludes new business for

[1:11:52] tonight. That [clears throat] opens us up to comments from the floor.

[1:11:57] Anybody have anything?

[1:12:00] » I I'll make one. Don't look like anybody else's.

[1:12:06] Got a kind of got a question with a comment.

[1:12:10] Talk to anybody that listens or watches the meeting

[1:12:16] online or whatever. >> You ever get any comments back?

[1:12:20] » No, I haven't looked in the last few minutes sometimes.

[1:12:24] Well, one thing I [snorts] I did it just to see what it sounds like

[1:12:30] and stuff.

[1:12:33] » I have no comments. >> And the comment I have is

[1:12:38] the sound system for it. I mean, when you listen to it online,

[1:12:46] sometimes it's hard to hear people, but you never miss the sound of a piece

[1:12:54] of paper moving. [laughter] >> Oh, okay. All right.

[1:12:59] I mean, you just move a piece here. >> Yeah.

[1:13:03] » All the way back here. And my wife do it with me just because she know

[1:13:07] » Yeah. >> And she text me one night, quit

[1:13:09] clicking. >> [laughter]

[1:13:13] » I can ask Total Tech to come out, but I cannot

[1:13:17] » I'm not going into the depth of this video recording software.

[1:13:21] » I don't know what caused it. >> Well, I agree. You can

[1:13:25] » I think they said that when they sold it to us.

[1:13:30] » I don't know why. >> Thanks for the tip, Harvey.

[1:13:33] » Yeah, >> thanks for the comment.

[1:13:35] » We'll see if they can tweak it.

[1:13:39] You want me to sign that it's me? >> Yeah, you do need to sign it. Well,

[1:13:47] » yeah.

[1:13:51] » Yeah, you're a board member. You better sign.

[1:13:54] » Okay. >> Any other comments from the board?

[1:14:01] » Okay, that takes us to adjournment. A motion to adjourn.

[1:14:06] » 7:41 p.m.

01/15/2026 Sunman, Indiana Public Meeting

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