Sep 03, 2026 Board of Supervisors

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Agenda

[0:03] Call to Order / Moment of Silence / Pledge of Allegiance/ Agenda Adoption

[3:48] Consent Items

[4:53] Public Comments

[34:36] Public Hearing

[1:09:09] Presentations

[1:23:39] Board Comments

[1:34:45] County Administrators Report

[1:39:14] Reports

[1:39:54] For Your Information

[1:40:06] Closed Session

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[0:02] AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE AND WELCOME TO OUR SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2026 BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEETING. BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR MEETING, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MINISTER GLORIA HOWELL MASON OF HOPE CHAPEL DELIVERANCE CHURCH OF SERVE VIRGINIA, IF YOU WOULD MIND COMING TO THE PODIUM TO DELIVER OUR INVOCATION. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. LET US PRAY. DEAR FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE HERE WITH US AND WE ARE MINDFUL OF THE JOB THAT THIS BOARD IS ABOUT TO DO AND IS CONTINUE TO DO. WE THANK YOU BECAUSE AS WE ARE HERE TO CELEBRATE OUR COUNTY, OUR STATE, OUR COUNTRY, WE THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE RULES AND NOT ONLY TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S RIGHT OR WHO'S RIGHT, BUT IT'S TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT IS RIGHT, BECAUSE THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DECENCY WE NEED TO GET INVOLVED IN TO MAKE THIS COUNTY BETTER AND TO CONTINUE TO MAKE IT AS WELL AS IT IS. WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT. AS YOU CONTINUE TO BLESS THE BOARD AND, AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT COUNTY, WE ASK YOU TO BLESS US TO BECOME MORE MINDFUL OF YOU AS OUR FATHER, AS YOU CONTINUE TO LET US BE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER AND ESTABLISH WHAT WE NEED FOR THIS GREAT COUNTY. WE THANK YOU BECAUSE WE'RE CELEBRATING 20, 50 YEARS AND WE WANT OUR COUNTY TO BE ONE THAT STANDS OUT. WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE PATIENCE, THE LOVE, THE ADMIRATION, AND THE KNOWHOW TO DO THIS JOB. WE, AS YOU CONTINUE TO BLESS 'EM, IN JESUS' NAME I PRAY, AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU FOR THAT POWERFUL PRAYER, MS. MASON. I NOW CALL THE SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2026 BOARD OF SUPERVISOR, UH, BOARD TO MEETING CALL TO ORDER. I'LL NOW ASK FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE. THANK YOU. I'LL NOW ASK IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE STAND TO SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALLEGIANCE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH FANS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBERS, BEFORE YOU HAVE YOUR AGENDA, I HOPE EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING'S MEETING. I WOULD NOW ASK IF THERE IS A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA. CHAIR, SUPERVISOR DREW, I MOVED THE, I MOVED THAT WE APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA, UM, AS PRESENTED. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY SUPERVISOR DREW PROPERLY, SECOND BY VICE CHAIR HARDY, THAT WE APPROVE, ADOPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON SAID MOTION? HEARING NONE. WE NOW VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE ADOPTING TONIGHT'S AGENDA. SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED AYE. AS HAVEN'T THE AGENDAS ADOPTED. NOW I'LL ASK INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. HARRISON, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND CALLING OUT THE ROAD. MR. HARRISON. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. ROLL CALL AS FOLLOWS. SUPERVISOR DREW. PRESENT SUPERVISOR HARDY. PRESENT. SUPERVISOR. CHAIRMAN PIERCE. PRESENT. SUPERVISOR ELLIOT. PRESENT. SUPERVISOR SEWARD. PRESENT. ALL PRESENT, SIR. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. HARRISON. BOARD MEMBERS ON OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. WE HAVE, UH, CONSENT ITEMS, WELL CONSENT ITEM, UH, FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE DRAFT MINUTES. AUGUST 5TH, 2026. WHAT IS THE BOARD'S PLEASURE? SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY SUPERVISOR DREW THAT WE APPROVED TONIGHTS CONSENT ITEMS. IS THERE A SECOND? EXCUSE ME, SUPERVISOR SEWARD. SECOND. THERE'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY SUPERVISOR SEWARD, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR ELLIOT, THAT WE APPROVE TONIGHT'S CONSENT ITEMS. ANY QUESTIONS ON SAID MOTION? HEARING NONE. WE'RE NOW VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING TONIGHT'S CONSENT. ITEMS SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE BY SAYING AYE. A. THOSE OPPOSED AYES HAVE IT. MOTION PASSES. NEXT IN OUR AGENDA, WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT THIS EVENING. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING, SO I ASK IF YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT IS, UH, PERTAINING TO ANY ONE OF THE PUBLIC

[5:01] HEARINGS TONIGHT, I WILL ASK THAT YOU HOLD OFF ON YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT UNTIL THAT PART OF THE MEETING. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL FIRST CALL MR. WILLIAM COX UP TO THE PODIUM. MR. COX, I'LL ASK IF YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. BOARD. UH, MY NAME'S WILLIAM COX. I'M FROM THE SRE DISTRICT. I'M, UH, BORN AND BRED IN S COUNTY. UH, MOVED AWAY FOR ABOUT 35 YEARS AND MOVED BACK FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN I RETIRED. NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THE YMCA TONIGHT, BUT I DO WANNA TALK ABOUT THE RECREATION CENTER. UM, MY WIFE AND I GOT INVOLVED IN PICKLEBALL ABOUT A YEAR AGO. UM, AND I GUESS WE GOT THE BUG. UM, BUT IT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING. THE, UH, REC CENTER WAS CLOSED DOWN, I GUESS ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO. WE WERE TOLD AT THE TIME IT WAS BEING RENOVATED IN ORDER FOR THE YMCA TO BE HERE. UM, THEN WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS MORE REMEDIATION, BUT ANYWAY, NEEDLESS TO SAY, THE REC CENTER'S CLOSED. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS IT GONNA BE OPEN BACK UP ANYTIME SOON? THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT MR. COX. NEXT, FOR OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE MR. BRIAN HAMEL. I'LL ASK THAT YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME, THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, AND SORRY ABOUT THAT. UH, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UM, BROWN. YOU MIND DOING THE, UH, TIME FOR ME? THANK YOU, SIR. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. YES. I'M BRIAN HAMILL, MEMBER OF THE CLAREMONT DISTRICT. I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE NATURE NATURE CONSERVANCIES PROPOSAL TO REMOVE THE DAM AT SUN MEADOW POND. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE NATURE CONSERVANCY MUST OBTAIN A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FROM THE COUNTY, WHICH REQUIRES APPROVAL OF THE BOARD BEFORE MOVING FORWARD. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING CONCERNS BEFORE MAKING YOUR DECISION. FIRST, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AT AN EARLIER PUBLIC MEETING. REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE TNC ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE EXISTING POND CURRENTLY PROVIDES ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS AND SERVES AS A USEFUL PURPOSE. WHILE THEY ARGUED THAT THE PROPOSED RESTORATION WOULD CREATE BETTER ENVIRONMENTAL OUTCOME, THEY ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED THAT STREAM CREDITS GENERATED BY THIS PROJECT WOULD BE SOLD ELSEWHERE. IN PRACTICAL TERMS, THOSE CREDITS WOULD ALSO ALLOW THE DESTRUCTION OR ALTERATION OF WETLANDS OR STREAMS IN OTHER LOCATIONS. THAT RAISES AN IMPORTANT QUESTION. DOES THE PROJECT TRULY RESULT IN OVERALL ENVIRONMENTAL GAIN OR DOES IT SIMPLY SHIFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER, AMOUNTING TO A NET LOSS OF WHAT CURRENTLY IS IN PLACE? SECOND CONCERN IS ABOUT SEDIMENT REMOVAL. THE NATURE CONSERVANCY HAS PROVIDED CONFLICTING INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH SEDIMENT CURRENTLY IN THE POND. INITIALLY, WE WERE TOLD THE SEDIMENT WOULD BE REMOVED AT, AT THE MOST RECENT MEETING. REPRESENTATIVE STATED THEY DID NOT INTEND TO REMOVE IT, EXCEPT THAT THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE DAM. THEY ALSO SAID MEASURES WOULD BE TAKEN TO PREVENT SEDIMENT FROM ENTERING THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES INTO THE JAMES RIVER. SINCE THE POND SEDIMENT IS CURRENTLY HIGHER THAN NORMAL HIGH TIDE, THEIR RENDERINGS CANNOT HAPPEN WITHOUT SEDIMENT BEING EXCAVATED OR FLUSHED INTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. AND EVENTUALLY THE RIVER. BEFORE ANY PERMIT IS APPROVED, THE PUBLIC DESERVES A CLEAR AND DETAILED PLAN ADDRESSING THE ISSUE. THIRD QUESTION ABOUT THE PROJECT'S. LEARN LONG TERM VISION. THE NATURE CONSERVANCY HAS SHOWN ACTIVE RENDERINGS DEPICTING THE AREA MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN 10 TO 15 YEARS AFTER RESTORATION, INCLUDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR CANOEING, HIKING, AND OUTDOOR RE RECREATION. HOWEVER, THE REPRESENTATIVES ALSO STATED THEY CURRENTLY HAVE NO PLANS TO BUILD THOSE AMENDMENT ONE MINUTE. WHEN ASKED IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER DONATING A SMALL PORTION, 2 MILLION TO THE COUNTY, THEY SAID THEY WOULD NOT. THEIR PLAN APPEARS TO BE FOCUSED ON REMOVING THE DAM GENERATING 39 MILLION IN STREAM CREDITS AND PERIODICALLY MONITORING THE SITE WITHOUT A COMMITMENT TO DEVELOP THESE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. THE RESIDENTS ARE BEING ASKED TO GIVE VALUABLE COMMUNITY ASSETS ON A FUTURE VISION THAT MAY NEVER BECOME REALITY. UH, THE EXISTING POND IS ALREADY A BEAUTIFUL RESOURCE WITH RELATIVELY MODEST IMPROVEMENTS. IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE OPEN FOR IMMEDIATE PUBLIC USE, INCLUDING BOATING AND OTHER RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. IN CONTRAST, THE PRO PROPOSAL FORCE WOULD ELIMINATE THE RESOURCE TODAY IN EXCHANGE FOR UNCERTAIN BENEFITS THAT COULD TAKE MANY YEARS TO MATERIALIZE IF THEY EVER DO. IN CONCLUSION, I ASK THE BOARD TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHETHER THIS PROPOSAL TRULY BENEFITS OUR COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENT. THERE ARE STILL UNANSWERED QUESTIONS ABOUT SEDIMENT MANAGEMENT CONCERNS ABOUT NET ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND NO FIRM COMMITMENT TO THE RECREATIONAL AMENITIES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A POND THAT COULD PROVIDE IMMEDIATE VALUE TO RESIDENTS BEFORE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU MR. HAMILL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, YES, YOU THANK YOU.

[10:01] NEXT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE MS. ROBERTO HAMEL OF CLAREMONT. I ASK IF YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, UH, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS ROBERTA HAMILL FROM THE CLAREMONT DISTRICT. I'M HERE TO SPEAK, UH, ABOUT THE NATURE CONSERVANCY'S PLANS TO REMOVE THE SUNED POND DAM AND ASK, BEFORE ANY IRREVERSIBLE ACTION IS TAKEN AS SUNED POND, THE COUNTY CAREFULLY CONSIDER A SIMPLER SOLUTION THAT IMMEDIATELY BENEFITS THE PUBLIC WHILE PRESERVING WHAT ALREADY EXISTS. WE DO NOT OPPOSE A STATE PARK-LIKE SETTING FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE DO NOT. WE ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THAT. OKAY? HOWEVER, IF THE NATURE CONSERVANCY REMOVES THE DAM, WE BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT IS NOT GONNA BE POSSIBLE. OKAY? UH, PUBLIC ACCESS DOES NOT REQUIRE DAM DEMOLITION. THE CONCEPT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR YEARS, INCLUDING WALKING TRAILS, BRIDGES, WILDLIFE OBSERVATION, AND CANOE ACCESS. THOSE IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE ADDED WHILE LEAVING THE POND INTACT. ACCORDING TO READILY AVAILABLE INFORMATION. THE POND ALREADY SUPPORTS WILDLIFE HABITAT. RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. TODAY, TNC HAS GIVEN SURREY, UH, BOARD, SURREY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND CITIZENS THE IMPRESSIONS THAT THIS THEIR PLAN. HOWEVER, THE RECENT AUGUST 15TH MEETING AND IN THE WHRO OR ARTICLE, THEY ADMITTED THIS WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE STATE COUNTY OR A THIRD PARTY OR FUTURE OWNERS POST RESTORATION IN 10 TO 15 YEARS. OKAY? THE PUBLIC HAS REPEATEDLY BEEN TOLD THESE AMENITIES ARE IMPORTANT. IF THEY ARE TRULY THE GOAL, THEN THE COUNTY CAN PURSUE THEM NOW, RATHER THAN WAITING 10 TO 15 YEARS AFTER A LARGE SCALE IRREVERSIBLE RESTORATION PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED. TNC HAS STATED THAT IF THEY ARE LIMITED TO JUST ESTABLISHING A CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT WOULD BE OKAY WITH THEM, THAT WOULD BE A WIN-WIN FOR THEM AND FOR THE COUNTY. THE POND FLOOR SITS APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET ABOVE NORMAL HOT TIDE ELEVATIONS. THEREFORE, THE DAM IS NECESSARY FOR WATER RETENTION AND COMMUNITY ACCESS. TIDAL WATERS WILL NOT NATURALLY REFILL THE POND. IS THAT THREE MONTHS? ONE? OKAY. UH, IF THIS IS TRUE, AND I BELIEVE IT IS, THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE FULL FULLY UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WATER RETENTION POND AND IRREVERSIBLE CONDITIONS THAT COULD EXIST AFTER DAM REMOVAL. WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN REAL WORLD EXAMPLE WHEN THE POND WAS DRAINED IN 2023. AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS SHOW EXTENSIVE MUDFLATS LIMITED RETAINED WATER, BASICALLY PUDDLES. FINALLY, I ASK THE BOARD TO DEMAND TRANSPARENCY. THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN SHOWN CONCEPTUAL IMAGES SUGGESTING A TITLE WETLAND ENVIRONMENT, WHILE THE PROJECT MATERIALS INDICATE THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS BEING PURSUED AS NON-TITLE TNC HAS BEEN CLEARED. THEY DO NOT INTEND TO PROVIDE THIS RESULT. RATHER, THEY PRESENTED WHAT THE COMMUNITY STATED THEY WANTED TO SEE. THIS, I FEEL, TO BE DELIBERATELY MISLEADING AS THE CITIZENS OF SURREY TOOK THIS AT FACE VALUE AND A CREDIBLE PLAN BY TNC. WE AS NEIGHBORS THERE WOULD LIKE THREE MINUTES TO INVITE, INVITE YOU GUYS DOWN TO SEE FIRSTHAND. THANK YOU MS. HAMILL. YEP. THANK YOU. NEXT, FOR OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE MISS SUE GILBERT OF CLAREMONT. I'LL ASK IF YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME AND THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. SUE GILBERT. I'M LA'S MAYOR OF CLAREMONT, AND I'M FROM THE CLAREMONT DISTRICT. PITCHERS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. I LIKE TO SHOW YOU ALL THIS IS WHAT THE POND LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN COME UP. THANK YOU. THIS IS WHEN DAVEY'S GROUP DRAINED IT TWO YEARS AGO IN 23. THAT'S HOW THEY WANNA LEAVE IT AFTER THEY DRAIN IT THIS TIME. THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS. THEY SAID THEY PLAN ON KEEPING IT 10 YEARS AND SELLING IT. THIS IS MUD FLAPS. THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN MAKE A PARK-LIKE SETTING OUT OF THIS FISHING. AND THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID THEY WANTED IT TO LOOK LIKE. BUT AT THE LAST MEETING LAST WEEK AT THE TOWN HALL IN CLAREMONT, FORGET IT. THEY SAID, THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS. IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE THIS. THIS IS WHAT'S WE'VE BEEN SHOWED AT ALL FOUR MEETINGS THAT THEY'VE HELD WITH THE PUBLIC. THAT'S THAT'S OUT. THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT. ACTUALLY, THAT'S A SHAME BECAUSE

[15:01] IT'S, IT'S, UM, LOOK AT IT. THAT'S NATURE. THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. YOU CAN HAVE THEM. YES. THANK YOU MS. GILBERT. AT ALL FOUR MEETINGS THEY'VE HAD. THEY, UM, THEY MADE US THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE AN AREA YOU COULD GO FISH, PUT A CANOE IN. THAT'S NOT SO I'VE BEEN HERE IN CLAREMONT 61 YEARS AND WHEN I FIRST MOVED THERE, THE COUM INVADERS OWNED THE POND. THEY RENTED OUT BOATS AND LIFE PRESERVERS TO PEOPLE THAT COULD BE DONE RIGHT NOW. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. GILBERT . YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE PICTURES, MS. GILBERT . THANK YOU. UM, NEXT WE'RE ALL PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE MR. PAUL MILLER. I ASK IF YOU COULD COME UP TO THE PODIUM. I'LL ASK IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME, THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. HAD A HAND UP, YOU CAN PUT COME. THANK YOU. ONE, UH, FIVE, FIVE BOARD MEMBERS. YEAH. THANK YOU, SIR. WHAT I, WHAT I WANT YOU TO IS JUST FLIP TO THE LAST PAGE, UM, AND I'LL HOLD THIS UP FOR THE PEOPLE HERE TO SEE YOU. SPEAKING OF MICROPHONE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THIS IS A, UM, GIS MAP ON THE COUNTY, UH, GIS SITE. AND WHEN YOU PUT THE, UH, RPA OVER THE TOP OF IT, THIS IS, UH, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THE O ONLY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS IT'S NOT A FACT, IT'S AN IMAGINATION. IF YOU FLIP TO THE NEXT PAGE BEHIND IT, THAT'S THE ACTUAL GIS MAP. WITH THE ACTUAL RPA LAID OVER IT, UH, JUST WANT EVERYONE TO SEE IT. IT KINDA LOOKS LIKE A TREE TRUNK OR A TREE. IT'S SOMETIMES CALLED DENDRITES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOW IMAGINE THAT OMNI SUNKEN METAL POND. IT'S MY BODY, THEIR PROPOSAL. THAT LAST PAGE CUT OFF MY LEGS AND ARMS AND FEET AND TOES, FINGERS AND JUST USE THE TRUNK. THAT'S NOT REALITY. THE REALITY IS THE WHOLE WATERSHED. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY WEBSITE, THE WATERSHED SPREADS QUITE A WAYS. SEVERAL ACRES, SEVERAL SQUARE MILES. ACTUALLY, NOW GO TO THE DOCUMENT BEFORE THAT, IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO SEE SITTING HERE, BUT I'LL, I'LL HOLD IT UP ANYWAY. I'LL EVEN PASS SOME AROUND ON THAT MAP. YOU SEE THE BORDERS OF 70 PARCELS OWNED BY ONE MINUTE BY 70 RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT OWN ALL THAT AREA UNDER THE RPA, THE NATURE CONSERVANCY DOESN'T OWN ANY OF THAT. THEY BOUGHT TWO PARCELS OF THREE PARCELS, UH, 23 28, 3 27, BUT THEY DIDN'T BUY ALL THE REST. SO BY RIPPING THE DAM OUT, THEY'RE GONNA DESTROY THE WETLANDS THAT 70 CITIZENS, 67 MORE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY OWN. NOW, UNDER THE RULES, UNDER THE RPA, I CAN'T PUT A SHOVEL ON THE GROUND TO PUT A, A POST UP OR ANY CONSTRUCTION. IT'S, I DON'T WANNA USE THE WORD SACROSANCT, BUT IT'S, IT'S FORBIDDEN BY LAW TO TO, TO TOUCH IT. I JUST THINK IT'S THREE, THREE MINUTES. AN ODD, AN ODD THING TO IT'S THREE MINUTES. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ING THANK YOU FOR THE DOCUMENT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. THERE'S MORE ABOUT IT THAN HERE. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

[20:07] NEXT, FOR OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE MR. CHRIS THOMPSON. I'LL ASK IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME, THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. CAN I HAND THIS OUT TO THE BOARD? YEAH. OH, YEAH. I THINK IT STARTED ALREADY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MY NAME IS CHRIS THOMPSON AND I LIVE AT 7 0 1 SUNKEN MEADOW ROAD. I'M JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM SUNKEN MEADOW POND. I'M A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH 26 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND HAVE MY OWN ENGINEERING COMPANY THAT IS NOW ADDRESSED IN SURY COUNTY SINCE WE MOVED HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. MY MAIN PURPOSE FOR TALKING TONIGHT IS TO UTILIZE MY BACKGROUND TO CONVEY INFORMATION THAT I DON'T BELIEVE TNC HAS BEEN TRANSPARENT AND HONEST ABOUT AT OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS. REGARDING THE CONVERSION OF SUNKEN MEADOW POND, BY REMOVING THE DAM, TNC WILL CREATE A STREAM SYSTEM THROUGH THE OLD POND. THIS STREAM SYSTEM WILL GENERATE CREDITS THAT TNC CAN SELL TO DEVELOPERS THAT BUILD AND IMPACT OTHER STREAMS IN THE JAMES RIVER WATERSHED. THE CREDIT PROGRAM IS REGULATED BY DEQ AND THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. THEIR APPROVAL IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO BE LISTED ON THE BANK WHERE YOU SELL THESE CREDITS. TNC APPLIED TO BE A PART OF THAT PROGRAM WITH THE CORPS IN OCTOBER OF 2024. I'VE HANDED EACH OF YOU A COPY OF PART OF THAT APPLICATION SO YOU CAN SEE ITEMS I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT. UH, THE FIRST THING IS ON PAGE ONE, THE MITIGATION SITE IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE OVER 39,000 STREAM CREDITS AND 176 WETLAND CREDITS. I HAVE INFORMATION FROM ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT RECENTLY CLOSED ON THOSE SAME TYPE CREDITS. THE PURCHASE PRICE WAS $600 A FOOT FOR STREAM CREDITS, $90,000 PER ACRE FOR WETLAND CREDITS. THAT EQUATES TO OVER $39 MILLION THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET FROM SUNKEN MEADOW POND BY REMOVING THE DAM AND CONVERTING THE POND INTO A STREAM. THE NEXT ITEM IS PAGE FOUR, MITIGATION ACTIVITIES. THIS IS BASICALLY THEIR SCOPE OF WORK, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IN THEIR APPLICATION TO THE CORE. PASSIVE RESTORATION IS THE WORD THAT LIMITS THEIR WORK TO ONLY THE DAM LOCATION ONLY EARTH, EARTH WORK THAT WILL OCCUR IS TO REMOVE SEDIMENT AT THE DAM AND THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY TO MAKE SURE THE POND DRAINS. THEY'RE GONNA ALLOW THE WETLAND SYSTEM TO REESTABLISH NATURALLY. THE SCOPE OF THE WORK IN THEIR APPLICATION IS NOTHING LIKE WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN ANY OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. SO WHY AM I BRINGING IT TO YOU GUYS? JUST REALLY QUICKLY? UH, RECONSTRUCT WETLANDS REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BY THE BOARD AS PART OF THAT, UH, RECONSTRUCTIVE WETLANDS BECOME A PERMANENT LONG-TERM LAND USE AND ARE EXPENSIVE TO RE PERMIT IF IT IS POORLY PLACED ON THE LANDSCAPE. THAT'S FROM THE ORDINANCE. ISSUES RELATED TO THE TECHNICAL DESIGN FEASIBILITY SHOULD REMAIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CORE AND DEQ NOT TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE CUP FROM THE BOARD. NO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SHALL BE ISSUED EXCEPT UPON A FINDING. THE PROPOSAL SHALL HAVE A MINIMUM ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY. ADVERSE IMPACT SHALL BE EVALUATED WITH THE CONSIDERATION TO ITEMS SUCH AS, BUT NOT LIMITED TO DRAINAGE, WATER QUALITY, AIR QUALITY, AND ODOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU GUYS DOWN TO THE HOUSE WHENEVER YOU WANT AND WE CAN DISCUSS MORE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. THOMAS. NEXT, FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE SUSAN THOMPSON. I'LL ASK IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME, THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES BEFORE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. MY NAME IS SUSAN THOMPSON, AND I LIVE, UM, IN THE SURREY DISTRICT. UM, I LIVE AT 7 0 1 SUNKEN MEADOW ROAD IN SPRING GROVE. I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT IN OPPOSITION TO THE POTENTIAL DRAINING OF SUNKEN MEADOW POND. MY HUSBAND AND I BUILT A HOME AT SUNKEN MEADOW BEACH AND PERMANENTLY MOVED TO SURREY IN 2024. IT HAD ALWAYS BEEN OUR DREAM TO BUILD A HOME ON THE JAMES RIVER. WE DON'T COME FROM WEALTHY FAMILIES, AND WE ACHIEVED OUR DREAM BY HARD WORK, DEDICATION, AND PERSEVERANCE. WE ARE GOOD PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALWAYS PLAYED BY THE RULES. I'M A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER, EIGHTH GRADE CIVICS. MY HUSBAND IS A CIVIL ENGINEER WHO BUILT HIS BUSINESS ALONE FROM THE GROUND UP. SUNKEN MEADOW POND IS 210 FEET FROM OUR FRONT DOOR. THE POTENTIAL REMOVAL OF THE DAM AND THE DRAINING OF THE POND WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT US AS WELL AS OUR NEIGHBORS. I DO NOT TRUST THE NATURE CONSERVANCY. THEY KNEW FROM THE GET-GO WHAT THEIR PLANS WERE.

[25:01] THEY KNEW THESE MEETINGS. UM, THEY ASKED FOR OUR INPUT. IT WAS TOTAL WASTE OF TIME, AND IT HONESTLY, I FOUND, FOUND IT INSULTING. THE NATURE CONSERVANCY ADMITTED THAT THEY HAVE NEVER MANAGED A PROJECT SO CLOSE TO OCCUPIED DWELLINGS. I'M NOT OKAY WITH BEING THE FIRST TNC PRESENTS ITSELF AS A STEWARD OF ENVIRONMENTAL CAUSES, BUT NEVER TALKS ABOUT THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS GENERATED IN SELLING ENVIRONMENTAL CREDITS. WHY IS THAT? YOU HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THE REMOVAL OF THE DAM AND YOU HAVE THE INFLUENCE TO SHAPE THE SUNKEN MEADOW POND AREA FOR THE FUTURE. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THE POND WAS RESTORED, IT WOULD BE A GREAT RESOURCE FOR EVERYONE IN SURREY. TNC COULD STILL GENERATE REVENUE WITH THE POND, BUT THEY DON'T WANNA DO THAT. AND WHY IS THAT? IT'S MONEY STREAM CREDITS ARE MORE VALUABLE IF ALL OF THIS GOES THROUGH AS PLANNED. WE AS NEIGHBORS LOSE SURREY COUNTY LOSES. AND TNC WALKS AWAY THINKING WE WERE AN EASY TARGET. THE GLOSSY PICTURES THEY SHOW ARE NOTHING SHORT OF A LIE. IF YOU ALLOW TNC TO MOVE FORWARD, 210 FEET FROM MY HOME WILL LOOK LIKE A WAR ZONE. THE HOME THAT WE HAVE WORKED SO HARD FOR THE STENCH OF TOXIC HYDROGEN SULFIDE, WHICH IS THE ROTTEN EGG SMELL, WILL LINGER IN THE AIR FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG. AND TNC ADMITTED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING, STANDING WATER WILL BE THE PERFECT BREEDING GROUND FOR MOSQUITOES. THE WILDLIFE THAT ALREADY LIVE AND THRIVE THERE WILL BE DECIMATED, POLLUTED SEDIMENT WILL DRAIN INTO THE JAMES RIVER AND TNC WILL BE LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK. AND TO PUT IT IN A SPORTS REFERENCE. TNC 39 MILLION SURREY ZERO THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU FOR THAT MS. THOMPSON. NEXT, FOR OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE MS. SUSAN CARVELLO. I ASK IF YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. BEFORE I START, I JUST WANTED TO PASS ON THAT, THE VIDEO, THE LIVE FEED'S NOT WORKING FOR ANYBODY THAT'S TRYING TO WATCH. THANK YOU. SOMEBODY JUST TEXT ME AND TOLD ME. UM, MY NAME IS SUSAN CORELLO. I'M FROM THE CLAREMONT DISTRICT. I'M GONNA SAY DITTO TO EVERYTHING THAT THEY JUST SAID, BUT I WANNA TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S CONCERNED ME ABOUT THE TONE OF SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE ON THE PUBLIC FACEBOOK PAGES. I'VE SEEN CITIZENS CALLED STUPID MAGA WITH A LITTLE TS, SO THAT'S MAGGOTS, IDIOTS, FOOLS. I'VE SEEN PEOPLE TOLD, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN MOVE. I'VE SEEN PEOPLE ACCUSED OF NOT CARING ABOUT YOUR YOUTH SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY QUESTIONED THE COST OF THE YMCA. I'VE SEEN COMMENTS SAYING THAT ONLY A FOOL WOULD QUESTION PROGRESS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST AND SEEING COMMENTS MADE ABOUT A CITIZEN'S MEDICAL CONDITION, WHEN DID DISAGREEING ABOUT A COUNTY PROJECT BECOME A REASON TO ATTACK SOMEONE'S HEALTH, INTELLIGENCE AND CHARACTER? SUPPORTING THE YMCA IS A LEGITIMATE POSITION. QUESTIONING THE YMCA IS ALSO A LEGITIMATE POSITION. A CITIZEN CAN SUPPORT OUR CHILDREN AND STILL ASK HOW A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECT WILL BE PAID FOR. A CITIZEN CAN SUPPORT PROGRESS AND STILL QUESTION WHETHER TAXPAYERS ARE GETTING THE BEST VALUE FOR THEIR MONEY. THOSE QUESTIONS SHOULD NOT MAKE SOMEONE AN ENEMY. I'VE ALSO BECOME CONCERNED ABOUT THE REPEATED COMMENTS ABOUT WHO IS FROM SURREY COUNTY AND WHO ISN'T. SOME PEOPLE HAVE LIVED HERE FOR GENERATIONS. OTHERS HAVE CHOSEN TO MOVE HERE. BUT ONCE SOMEONE MAKES SURREY COUNTY THEIR HOME, THEY'RE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. THEY PAY TAXES, THEY WORK HERE, THEY RAISE FAMILIES HERE, THEY VOLUNTEER HERE, AND THEY CONTRIBUTE HERE. THEY SHOULD NOT BE ME. MADE TO FEEL THAT THEY DON'T BELONG SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T BORN HERE. I BELIEVE WE DON'T HAVE A RACIST COUNTY, BUT I DO BELIEVE WE'RE BECOMING AN UNKIND COUNTY. ARE WE BECOMING AN UNKIND COUNTY? BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE DISAGREEMENT

[30:01] HAS TO BE MEANT AS DISRESPECT. WE CAN DISAGREE ABOUT THE YMCA. WE CAN DISAGREE ABOUT THE BRIDGE. WE CAN DISAGREE ABOUT TAXES, SPENDING, DEVELOPMENT, AND THE DIRECTION OF OUR COUNTY, BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT ATTACKING SOMEONE'S MEDICAL CONDITION. INTELLIGENCE, POLITICAL BELIEFS, AND THE RIGHT TO LIVE HERE. QUESTION THE NUMBERS. QUESTION THE SPENDING QUESTION, THE DECISIONS. THAT'S WHAT CITIZENS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. BUT LET'S STOP MAKING THE PEOPLE ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS. THE ENEMY, SURREY COUNTY, IS A SMALL COMMUNITY AND WE'RE NEIGHBORS. WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH EACH OTHER, BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISAGREE AND STILL BE KIND. THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. GOO. NEXT. NEXT WE HAVE MR. DANIEL SHEA. I'LL ASK IF YOU COULD PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDITION YOU REPRESENT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. DR. SHAY SURY DISTRICT. UH, SUSAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, UH, CITIZENS OF SUNKEN MEADOW, UH, POND. UM, UH, I DON'T, YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT NEAR MY FRONT DOOR, BUT I STAND WITH MY NEIGHBORS. I LIVE IN SURRY COUNTY. I STAND WITH MY NEIGHBORS. WHAT THIS BOARD IS PREPARING TO DO WITH THE YMCA IS LEGAL. YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BORROW THE MONEY. YOU HAVE THE VOTES AND RECREATION, EXERCISE AND CHILDCARE HAVE REAL VALUE. THOSE AREN'T IN QUESTION, NO MATTER HOW UNFAIRLY PEOPLE WERE TREATED IN THE PAST. REAL LEADERS DON'T ANSWER INJUSTICE BY STOMPING ON THE OTHER END OF THE SCALE. WE HAVE THE VOTES IS NOT DEMOCRACY AT ITS BEST. THERE WAS A TIME WHEN ANOTHER TRIBE DOMINATED THIS COUNTY, AND MANY CITIZENS DID EVERY REASON NOT TO TRUST THEIR GOVERNMENT. THAT TRUST WAS LOST BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE NOT TREATED EQUALLY. BUT CHANGING WHO HOLDS POWER DOES NOT MAKE ABUSE OF POWER ACCEPTABLE. AND IF SUPERVISOR M SHERLOCK HOLMES WERE HERE, I SUSPECT HE'D AGREE. BASED ON WHAT I'VE RESEARCHED AND WHAT I'VE HEARD OF THE GREAT MAN. IF TODAY'S MAJORITY DISMISSES OPPOSING VOICES OR PLACES ITS OWN ALLIES BEYOND ACCOUNTABILITY, THEN WE HAVEN'T LEARNED THE LESSON. WE'VE SIMPLY CHANGED THE TRIBE HOLDING THE POWER DISAGREEING ABOUT HOW MUCH DEBT WE SHOULD ASSUME IS NOT SELFISHNESS. AND IT'S NOT MISINFORMATION. IT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION. DAVENPORT SAYS, WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO BORROW, BUT THEY DON'T TELL US THAT WE SHOULD BORROW. AND MR. DREW, I WANNA SPEAK DIRECTLY TO YOU. YOU ARE, I'M GONNA CALL YOU SOME NAMES. YOU ARE ARTICULATE. YES, THAT'S A NAME . AND YOU'VE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING REMARKABLE WITH DECENCY. YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITIES YOU EVER RECEIVE, BUT YOU DISAPPOINTED MANY WHEN YOU CHARACTERIZE OPPOSING VIEWS AS MISINFORMATION. IT'S ONE THING TO DISAGREE WITH CITIZENS. IT'S ANOTHER TO DISMISS THEM. AND IT'S SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY TO DISMISS. A FELLOW SUPERVISOR, SUPERVISOR SEWARD, TOLD THIS BOARD AMONGST 130 CITIZENS, ONE MINUTE VOTE TO THANK YOU. AMONG 130 CITIZENS, ONLY TWO SUPPORTED THE YMC DEBT SERVICE AS PROPOSED. THOSE WERE HIS CONSTITUENTS SPEAKING THROUGH THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE. AFTER HE SPOKE, HE WAS EFFECTIVELY SHUNNED, IGNORED AS IF WE MUTED HIS MIKE, AS WAS HIS PREDECESSOR, MR. DREW. REAL LEADERSHIP SOMETIMES MEANS DISAPPOINTING YOUR ALLIES. SOMETIMES IT MEANS SAYING, MY TRIBE WENT TOO FAR. SHERLOCK HOLMES HAD THAT BACKBONE. LEADERSHIP MEANS BEING OPEN ENOUGH TO HEAR SOMETHING MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR. THAT'S HOW TRUST IS BUILT. THAT'S HOW WE COME TOGETHER. SO MY QUESTION IS SIMPLE. WILL DIFFERING PERSPECTIVES BE HEARD RATHER THAN LABELED OR IGNORED? WILL YOU ASK WHETHER YOU'RE ADVANCING SURREY COUNTY OR ADVANCING A PORTION OF SURREY COUNTY? THE PEOPLE OF SURREY DESERVE LEADERS WHO UNDERSTAND THAT POWER IS TEMPORARY, BUT CHARACTER, FAIRNESS AND THE WAY WE TREAT PEOPLE ARE REMEMBERED. I HOPE YOU WILL ALL CHOOSE A WORTHY LEGACY. THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION IS NOW CLOSED. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA, WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING SECTION. SINCE THIS EVENING, WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS THE ORDINANCE 2026 DASH OH TWO PC ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 20 20 20 26 DASH OH ONE. I WILL NOW TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO MR. HORACE WADE. MR. WADE,

[35:11] GOOD EVENING. CHAIRMAN PIERCE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MR. HARRISON, MR. BROWN, MS. PERKINS. THIS AFTERNOON. THIS AFTERNOON, WE, WE, WE DO HAVE, UH, I GUESS A, A, I GUESS A LIST OF, OF ORDINANCES. THE FIRST ONE, UH, ON UP HERE IS, UM, PC ORDINANCE, UH, 2020 6 0 2. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 3 0 3. SORRY, MY TEXT IS VERY SMALL. UM, THREE, 300. I'M SORRY. TECHNOLOGY IS HERE. MESS MESSING WITH ME. NOT, AND BE TRUTHFUL. I NEED SOME, I NEED SOME, UH, BIFOCALS, I GUESS. UM, THIS, THIS IS BEEN IN THE A AR DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR BY AMENDING THIS SECTION HERE TO LIMITATIONS ON THE, ON THE SIZE OF SUBDIVISIONS TO 15 LOTS AS BEING LARGE, THE CRITERIA OF THE, OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. AND BY INCREASING THE, UH, MINIMUM LOT SIZE FROM ONE ACRE TO 10 ACRES, UH, OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, HAS BEEN EVALUATING THIS PROCESS FOR, UH, THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE DID HAVE A, A BOARD, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION IN THE SPRING TO, TO COME TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHERE, UH, WHERE WE WERE AS PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE BOARD. UM, THIS WAS, UH, A, A PROJECT, UH, UH, I GUESS ESSENTIALLY PLENTY COMMISSION INITIATED, UH, TO KIND OF MATCH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH THE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UM, TO PRESERVE OUR AGRICULTURAL HERITAGE. UM, AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US TO, TO YOU ALL TONIGHT. UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THEIR LAST MEETING, AT THEIR PUBLIC HEARING, THEY DID RECOMMEND BY NINE TO ZERO VOTE, UM, TO, UH, TO, UH, SEND THIS ORDERS TO YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL. UM, AND IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, I I CAN ANSWER ANY OF THOSE IF THAT YOU MAY. UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. WADE, BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WADE AS, AS WHY YOU APPEAR UP HERE? UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK, SO I WASN'T AROUND IN THE SPRING, YOU KNOW? YES, SIR. BEFORE THESE THINGS AND THE, AND WHAT WOULD YOU DESCRIBE AS WHAT THE PROMPT FOR THIS MAINLY? I MEAN, I THINK, UH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. UM, I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH THIS WAS LARGER SUBDIVISIONS BEING, UM, LAND BEING DEVELOPED, UM, THAT WERE UNDER 10 ACRES BEING DEVELOPED BY, I GUESS PEOPLE TRYING TO MOVE INTO THE COMMUNITY AND NOT HAVING ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOODS DEVELOPED AS THEY WERE A NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND THE, THE, UM, THE MITIGATED THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU DEVELOP A NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT HAVING, UH, BEING ABLE TO MITIGATE FOR THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MY OFFICE RECEIVED AS WELL AS MS. LOIS, MS. MS. PERKINS OFFICE RECEIVES AS WELL. UM, WE WERE GET COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS WHO, UM, THEY, THEY LIVED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS IN THE AR DISTRICT. MOST 88% OF THE COUNTY IS AR. UM, THEY, THEY, UH, IS A SUBDIVISION ROAD THAT WAS BUILT, WHETHER IT WAS EITHER A, A, A ROAD, A VDOT, MAINTAIN ROAD, OR A PRIVATE ROAD. UM, THEY DEVELOPED, THEY MOVED INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD THINKING THEY WERE GONNA HAVE ONE THING ONLY TO FIND OUT MAYBE YEARS LATER THAT IT WASN'T LIKE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS. SOME OF THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THEY COME INTO MAY HAVE SAID SOMETHING LIKE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD'S FIVE ACRES, OR THAT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, DIDN'T HAVE MANY. UH, THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT SAYS NEW MEGA FACTOR HOMES, OR YOUR, YOUR HOUSE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS FAR AWAY FROM THE ROAD. WELL, THOSE WEREN'T REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE. UM, SO WHEN WE GET COMPLAINTS, IF THE COUNTY ACT STAFF ACTUALLY APPROVED THE SUBDIVISION, THEY WOULD SAY, MR. WADE, HOW COME YOU ALL APPROVE A TWO ACRE A LOT? WELL, THAT WAS ALLOWED BY WRIGHT. WE DON'T, WE DON'T ENFORCE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS. UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO THROUGH A ZONING. HOWEVER, IF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAD GONE THROUGH THE REZONING REQUESTS AND THEY HAD OFFERED UP THROUGH CONDITIONS OF THE MINIMUM, WHAT SIZE HERE IS GONNA BE FIVE ACRES OR, OR THERE WOULD BE NO TYPE OF, UH, ONLY SINGLE BUILT STICK-BUILT HOUSE ARE PERMITTED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD ENFORCE. IF SOMEONE WOULD PUT IN FOR A BUILDING PERMIT REQUEST, WE WOULD SAY, WELL, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE ALLOWED THIS NOW. UM, BECAUSE, OR IF THEY CAME FOR ANOTHER TYPE

[40:01] OF, OF DWELL DWELLING, WE WOULD SAY, NO, THAT'S NOT PERMITTED. YOU'RE ALLOWED, YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE A STICK PERMIT, STICK-BUILT HOUSE. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE NOW AND, AND REQUIRING, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GONNA DEVELOP A NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN AGRICULTURAL LOT, UM, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS FOLKS ARE, ARE BUILDING ONE ACRE LOTS, A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF ONE TO TWO ACRE LOTS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT THAT ARE COMING THROUGH. AND I THINK ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT CAME THROUGH THAT SHED A LIGHT ON THAT WAS, UM, BRENTLEY MILL PROJECT THAT CAME ON IN THE CROWLEY DISTRICT, THAT OVER 300 ACRES THAT THEY, THEY WERE ABLE TO SPLIT IT, UM, DOWN TO I GUESS 24 LOTS. UM, AND I GUESS THERE ARE A LOT, AVERAGE IS ABOUT THREE ACRES PER, PER LOT. UM, SO A PROJECT LIKE THAT, IF WE WENT THROUGH AN ORDINANCE LIKE THIS, IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH REZONING INSTEAD OF, WHICH WOULD BE HEARD BY THIS BODY. AND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, CONTROL THAT GROWTH, UM, BEFORE IT, IT'S JUST A, A BUY RIGHT THING. YOU, YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHERE YOUR GROWTH IS IN THE COUNTY. AND THE, AND THE COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTUALLY IS SET UP NOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR GROWTH AREAS WHEN THE, WITHIN THE COUNTY, NOT TO SAY YOU CAN'T GROW ANYWHERE ELSE, BUT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTROL THAT GROWTH IF IT WAS OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES OR THE CONFERENCES PLAN. BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE THIS BODY, PLENTY COMMISSION AND THEN THIS BODY BEFORE IT BE APPROVED. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IS THIS ORDINANCE IS HOW OF GEARING YOU UP SO THAT YOU ALL CAN CONTROL THAT GROWTH, UM, AND YOU, YOU CAN MANAGE THAT GROWTH. SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. OKAY. , MR. WADE? YEAH, GO AHEAD SIR. UM, MR. WADE, WHAT AND HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THE, GOING FROM ONE ACRE TO 10 ACRES? IS THERE ANY COMPROMISE IN THAT? AND WHAT IS THE REASON? I MEAN I YOU, YOU ALREADY EXPRESSED THE REASON FOR THE 10 ACRES, BUT IS THERE ANY COMPROMISE WITHIN THE, THE 10 ACRES THAT WE THINK COULD BE EVEN MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITIZENS IN THE COUNTY? UM, ANY COMPROMISE? WHEN, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SAY THAT, WHAT CAN YOU, CAN YOU EXPRESS WHAT YOU MEAN BY COULD, COULD WE, UH, I, I KNOW NOR NEIGHBOR JURISDICTION YOU MENTIONED FIVE ACRES. WHAT, WHAT WOULD FIVE ACRES LOOK LIKE TO THE PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING INSTEAD OF 10? I THINK IT WOULD LEAD IN THE, IT WOULD LEAD IN A BETTER DIRECTION THAN WE ARE NOW FOR SURE. I THINK OF HAVING FIVE OF FIVE ACRES AS OPPOSED TO SAYING ONE ACRE, I THINK IT MOVES IT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I DO KNOW THE REASON WHY 10 WAS SELECTED WAS, I THINK THERE WAS A CODE SECTION THERE ABOUT, WAS IT ANYTHING ABOUT 10? WAS IT, WAS IT 3 0 3? IS THAT IN HERE? GIMME A SECOND. OKAY. THERE'S THIS, THERE'S THIS SECTION RIGHT HERE. A REID FROM USING A LOT LESS THAN 10 ACRES AND LOCATED AN AGRICULTURAL FIELD SHALL MEET THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA. BASICALLY WE TOOK, WE WIPED THAT SECTION OUT COMPLETELY BECAUSE WE WERE SAYING IT WAS GONNA BE, IT WOULD BE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 10 ACRES. BUT, UM, THAT'S THE REASON WHY 10 ACRES WAS SELECTED. 'CAUSE IT WAS, UH, INSTEAD OF, UH, HAVING THIS SECTION IN PLACE, WE JUST SAID 10 ACRE MINIMUMS. UM, THERE'S BEEN A STATE AGENCIES IN THIS COAST SECTION HAS ALMOST BECOME MOOT. 'CAUSE THE STATE AGENCIES OUT THERE HAVE TOLD US WITH THEIR ATTORNEY'S OFFICES THAT THEY CAN'T GIVE US THIS, THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE REQUESTING. UM, VIRGINIA TECH, THE AGRICULTURAL EXTENSION OFFICE HAS TOLD US WE CAN NO LONGER GIVE THIS INFORMATION TO YOU. THEY'VE, THEY'VE ADVISED THEIR STAFF THAT THEY JUST CAN'T GIVE IT TO US. THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR, WE CAN'T GIVE IT TO YOU. SO IT'S, IT MAKES IT ALMOST A MOOT POINT TO KEEP THAT WITHIN OUR ORDINANCE. SO WE, WE, WE RESPECTIVELY ASKED TO REMOVE THAT LANGUAGE OUT OF THERE. UM, BUT AS FAR AS BEING FIVE OR 10, I THINK THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO, TO STATE. BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR US, UM, WE USE 10 BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY IN THE CODE SECTION AS 10. THANK YOU SIR. CHAIR. YES. MR. HARD. UH, SO WHAT, JUST, JUST A QUESTION. WHAT DOES THE INDUSTRY KNOW? WHAT IS THE STANDARD PRACTICE, UH, SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES? WHAT, WHAT DO THEY LIE IN THIS INSTANCE? SO LIKE PRINCE, PRINCE GEORGE IS ABOUT FIVE ACRES. ALTHOUGH I, I DO HEAR THEY, THEY'RE THEIR, THEIR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT INCREASING. UM, BUT UM, BUT THEY DO HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GROWTH WITH THEIR, WITH FIVE ACRE LOT SUBDIVISIONS. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE A LOT OF LOCALITIES, ESPECIALLY RURAL LOCALITIES, TEND IF, IF YOU'RE CONTROLLING THE GROWTH THERE, YOU TEND TO HAVE A LARGER LOTS, LOT SIZES. AND YOU CONTROL THAT GROWTH BY, SAY, BY HAVING YOUR AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO BE A LARGER NUMBER. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE, THEY, THEY HAVE HAD SOME OTHER AGRICULTURAL AREAS WHERE PEOPLE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I WANNA DO AGRICULTURAL, ALL THE OTHER USES WITH IT HAVING, YOU KNOW, SMALL CHICKENS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT

[45:01] I DON'T WANNA HAVE A 10 ACRES, BUT I WANNA DO IT A SMALLER SIZE. PEOPLE HAVE, THEY MAY HAVE ANOTHER AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT FOR THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT MAY BE LIKE WE HAVE AR NOW YOU COULD SAY LATER ON, OKAY, FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT WANNA DO SOMETHING SMALLER, THEY WANT TO HAVE LIKE A SMART, A FARM OR SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU ZONE TWO, LET'S SAY R ONE OR R TWO YOUR USE, THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE PERMITTED. THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE HORSES OR, OR CHICKEN, DIFFERENT TYPES OF CHICKEN, THINGS LIKE THAT IN YOUR, ON YOUR, IN YOUR YARD. SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT DISADVANTAGE ADVANTAGES TO THAT, UM, OF HAVING THE AR ZONING DISTRICT BECAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A HORSE OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT, UM, YOU'RE STILL ALLOWED TO DO THAT ON, ON SMALLER LOTS, LIKE MAYBE A FIVE ACRES. 'CAUSE THERE ARE THINGS AND THINGS IN PLACE TO ALLOW FOR THAT. UM, BUT 10 ACRES WAS JUST A PRIME UNDERSTAND HERE. I THINK THE MAIN THING IS WE DON'T WANT AN ORDINANCE TO BE DETERRENT FOR FOLKS WHO MAY CONSIDER CERTAIN COUNTY, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD NOW THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO MOVE HERE AND THEY MAY NEED 10, 20, 30 ACRES AND PUT HORSES OUT THERE. YOU MAY HAVE SOME FOLKS MOVE FROM AN URBAN AREA WHO, YOU KNOW, DON'T WANNA CUT GRASS AND WANT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY LESS THAN AN ACRE. I KNOW. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS TO BE CONSIDERED AS WELL. BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BOARD MEMBERS? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION WITH TWO QUESTIONS ACTUALLY. SURE, SURE. UM, WELL YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE COUNTY THAT'S IN AR HOW IS IT 80%? IT'S 88. IT WAS 88. OKAY. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN AND FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR CITIZENS OUT THERE. IT'S IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S OUT THERE. IT SAYS 88% FOR IN THE AR DISTRICT IS IS FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. 88% OF THE COUNTY IS AN AR DISTRICT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND, AND I GUESS, UH, THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION. ALRIGHT. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AR CORRECT? CORRECT. BUT ARE THERE ANY OTHER REDISTRICT, UM, REZONING THAT POSSIBLE CITIZENS COULD DO TO HOW SMALL OR LOT SIZES? IF IT WAS NOT AR YES. YES. SO IF SOMEONE WANTED TO GO THROUGH RIGHT NOW, UM, WE, WE HAVE A R ONE AND R TWO ZONING DISTRICTS, AND THEN THERE ARE, THERE IS A, A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT YOU CAN DO IF YOU WERE DOING A BIG, LIKE A, A PROJECT, UM, THAT YOU, YOU COULD GO FOR THAT TYPE OF ZONING DISTRICT. UM, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTUALLY DISCUSSED, UM, POSSIBLY INTRODUCING A DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICT THAT WAS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN YOUR, UM, YOUR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS AND YOUR, UM, AGRICULTURE. SOMETHING LIKE, LIKE A RURAL ESTATE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN, MAYBE, MAYBE FOR SOME OF THESE PLACES. YOU, YOU SAY, I, I WANNA ALLOW FOR, I DON'T WANNA ALLOW ALL THE OTHER TYPES OF USE OF AGRICULTURAL, BUT I WANNA ALLOW FOR, MAYBE I WANNA HAVE A HORSE, HORSE, A HORSE OR TWO ON MY PROPERTY, BUT I, I REALLY DON'T WANT ALL THE OTHER THINGS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 'CAUSE YOU KIND OF WANT TO PROTECT YOURSELF AGAINST YOUR NEIGHBORS. SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU MOVE INTO OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT YOU DON'T WANT, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT YOUR NEIGHBORS TO HAVE CHICKENS OR HORSES OR, OR ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT COME IN WITH WITH AN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. BUT YOU, BUT YOU REALLY WANTED TO HAVE THOSE HORSES IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO YOU MAYBE E ESTABLISHED, WELL, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD'S GONNA HAVE HORSES, BUT THAT'S ALL I'M HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT IS HAVING HORSES. SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH NOW. THIS, THESE, THESE BREVITY OF, OF ORDINANCES RIGHT NOW IS BASICALLY A PHASE ONE APPROACH THAT PLANNING COMMISSION IS TAKING TO ADDRESS SUBDIVISIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY. UH, WE ARE TACKLING IT. THIS IS, AND THIS IS THE PHASE ONE APPROACH, RIGHT? THE SECOND PART OF IT IS A COMPLETE REVISION OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. UM, AND PART OF THAT STRUNG BY THE FACT THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY MADE SOME RULINGS OR, OR, OR, UM, CODE CHANGES LAST JULY THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO TACKLE NOW. SO THIS IS, THIS IS JUST PART ONE OF THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT MR. WILLIAM. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? HEARING NONE, WE'RE NOW OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. WE ASK IF ANYONE NEEDS TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERTAINING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE JUST LISTENED TO TONIGHT. I'LL ASK THAT YOU PLEASE, UM, APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME, THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. DR. SHA SIRI DISTRICT. I'M DEFINITELY SEIZING THIS OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT GETS OLD WHEN SOMEONE'S ALWAYS CRITICIZING. I WANNA SAY THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS DONE A GREAT JOB HERE. UM, THEIR FOCUS IS, UH, QUOTE, PRESERVING OUR AGRICULTURAL HERITAGE AND A PEACEFUL RURAL WAY OF LIFE. THE 10 ACRE RECOMMENDATION, THE WORK YOU'VE DONE, IS WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS SUPPOSED TO DO. PLAN AND PLAN AND KEEPING WITH OUR, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO, GREAT JOB. I LOVE WHAT I'M SEEING. I'M LOVING THE MOTIVATION BEHIND IT. I'M LOVING THE WHY BEHIND IT. UM, THAT'S KEEPING, KEEPING WITH THE, UH, KEEPS SURY RURAL MOVEMENTS, VISION, MISSION, AND VALUES. UM, THEY SUPPORT THAT GOAL. I SUPPORT THAT GOAL. UM, THIS PROTECTS WHAT, WHAT MAKES SURY SPECIAL. AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES COMING UP HERE AND SAYING, Y'ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. SO THANK YOU.

[50:01] THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? TAKE YOUR TIME. I ASK IF YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT. AND IF YOU HOLD ONE SECOND, MR. COGAN, I WOULD JUST WANNA LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT, UM, THE VIDEO ONLINE IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO STREAM FROM HOME. SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO STREAM FROM HOME, YOU'RE NOW ABLE TO WATCH LIVE FROM HOME. SORRY ABOUT THAT, MS. COGAN. NO PROBLEM. FLOOR WAS YOURS. DAVID COGGIN, UH, CARSLEY DISTRICT. AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, I'VE BEEN ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK MR. HARDY WAS TALKING ABOUT IT, AND EVEN MR. ELLIOT ABOUT THE SIZE. AND I THINK WHAT OUR INTENTION WITH 10 ACRES, I WAS OUT YESTERDAY IN THE BEAUTIFUL SUNSHINE BALING 700 BALES OF HAY BECAUSE I HAVE 10 ACRE LOT. YOU, YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON AN ACRE AND A HALF AR IS AGRICULTURAL AND RURAL. IT, IT'S OUT THERE. IT'S BIG ENOUGH TO DO THAT. THE SAME TOKEN, I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS CREATED IN 1984, UH, IN SURREY ON FIVE ACRE LOTS. AND I CAN LAY IN MY WONDERFUL HAMMOCK ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON AFTER CHURCH AND SMELL MY NEIGHBOR WHO'S ALLOWED TO HAVE A DOG KENNEL WITH MULTIPLE HOUNDS IN IT. I CAN SMELL HIS WONDERFUL HOUNDS THAT THEY'RE ALIVE AND WELL AND KICKING SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IN AR THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO IN RESIDENTIAL. AND, AND NO ONE IS KEEPING ANYONE ANY PIECE OF LAND YOU HAVE IN SURREY COUNTY, YOU CAN COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONE IT FOR ONE ACRE, THREE ACRES, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO ZONE IT FOR. SO IT, IT'S NOT PROHIBITING ANYBODY FROM TAKING THE LAND THAT THEY OWN AND THEY WANNA MAKE ECONOMIC RETURN ON IT. THEY JUST HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND GET IT REZONED RESIDENTIAL VERSUS AR THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD. AND THEN I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER ORDINANCE COMING UP IN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UM, FAMILY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, WHICH IS MAGNIFICENT. I MEAN, I, I HAVE 11 CHILDREN AND I BOUGHT A FARM 15 YEARS AGO. I SUBDIVIDED UP INTO 10 ACRE LOTS AND NOW I'M SUBDIVIDING IT UP TO FIVE OF MY CHILDREN ARE CURRENTLY BUILDING OR ARE BUILT IN SURREY COUNTY. AND I'VE DONE IT THROUGH THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. AND IT'S A GREAT WAY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR ELDERLY PARENTS OR, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, I SAY I BRIBED MY CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, TO STAY IN SURREY COUNTY. I'LL GIVE YOU A PIECE OF LAND, YOU CAN BUILD YOUR HOUSE HOME. BUT, YOU KNOW, I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IT. IT, IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT ANYONE FROM SUBDIVIDING. IT JUST KEEPS ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU. IT JUST KEEPS PEOPLE FROM DOING THINGS IN AR I MEAN, IN, IN AR THE, THE, IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THE 25 LOTS I RODE BY THERE ON MY WAY IN THIS EVENING. SO THERE'S 25 WELLS THAT ARE GOING ON A FARM, THAT A HUNDRED, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED YEAR OLD FARM THAT THERE'S 25 WELLS AND 25 SEPTIC SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT NEEDS TO BE MANAGED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH A, A WATER SUPPLY OF SEWERS. YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE MANAGED, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE SEE NOW, HOUSES JUST POPPING UP ALL OVER, YOU KNOW, THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. THANK YOU. THANK FOR THAT. MS. COGAN, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE I'LL ASK IF YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT. HELLO, I'M CHARNAY WHITE AND I LIVE IN THE CARSLEY DISTRICT. I AM, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY FOR REVISING AND, AND DOING THIS. I JUST WANT THE BOARD TO BE CONSIDERATE OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE PUTTING THE LOT SIZE IN THE ACREAGE ABOUT HOW AFFORDABLE IS IT GONNA BE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MOVE HERE. SO YES, WE WANT CONTROL GROWTH, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. SO JUST CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR REVISIONS AND THINKING ABOUT THE ACREAGE. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? I, I'LL ASK IF YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT. I'M BUDDY SHACKLE, SIR DISTRICT I'VE BEEN IN SURREY. I'M GONNA COME HERE. MY FRIENDS, DON'T LET ME FORGET THAT. BUT MOST OF THE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE BEEN IN THE SUBDIVISION BUSINESS AND I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO IT HERE AND IN OTHER COUNTIES, CITIES AND ORDINANCE HAS CHANGED, BUT NOTHING WORKS. NOTHING STOPS IT. WHEN PEOPLE GET TIRED OF THE CROWDS AND THE WHATEVER, THEY COME OUT AND THEY END UP PLACES LIKE SURY. BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT, THERE'S ONE THING NOBODY HAS THOUGHT TO TRY IS IF YOU WANT KEEP SURY RURAL, DON'T TAX THE FARM LAND LIKE YOU DO THE REST OF THE LAND. AND IT WOULDN'T BE SUCH A, A QUESTION FOR THE FARMERS. 10 ACRES OF CORN DOESN'T, PUTTING KIDS IN SCHOOL, 10 ACRES OF WOOD LAND THAN PUTTING KIDS IN SCHOOL. SO, LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN MAKE ALL THE REGULATIONS YOU WANT

[55:01] THE DEVELOPERS, ALL IT TAKES IS MONEY. THEY'LL HIRE ME. I'LL FIND A WAY OUT. THANKS. DO YOU MIND SIR, STATE YOUR NAME ONE MORE TIME IN THE MIC AND YOUR POSITION BUDDY SHUCKER IN THE MIC PLEASE. YEAH, JUST FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU BUDDY. SHUCKER, SIR. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE JUST LISTENED TO? SEEING NONE. WE'LL NOW INCLUDE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. MR. CHAIRMAN. YES. IF, IF I MAY PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. YES, YOU MAY. UH, EARLIER IN THE DISCUSSION IT WAS, UH, SUGGESTED THAT PERHAPS REDUCING THE 10 ACRES DOWN TO FIVE ACRES MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE BOARD WISHES TO CONSIDER. IF THE BOARD WISHED TO CONSIDER REDUCING DOWN FROM 10 ACRES, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO DO. UH, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS ADVERTISED WAS FOR 10 ACRES. SO ANYTHING BELOW 10 ACRES WOULD BE LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT WAS ADVERTISED. SO FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, YOU COULD GO FORWARD WITH MAKING THAT CHANGE WITHOUT HAVING TO RE ADVERTISE AND HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MS. PERKINS BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE LISTEN TO TONIGHT? I, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD YES, MR. SE, UM, SORRY, THEY, SO I, AGAIN, I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS KIND OF NEW TO ME AND, AND I HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY ANY CHANCE TO TALK WITH ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT. THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS I'VE HEARD BACK FROM THE CITIZENS AND I'D JUST LIKE FOR US TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, 30 DAYS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE TIME TO OUR NEXT MEETING OR WHATEVER TO THINK ABOUT MAYBE REDUCING THIS AS, UM, OR HERE, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET A MORE, Y'ALL HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY MAYBE TO GET MORE FEEDBACK ON IT THAN, THAN, THAN I HAVE. BUT I'D LIKE TO DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. STEWART. ARE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, BOARD COMMENTS CHAIR, UM, MR. HARDY, I'M INCLINED TO, UH, AGREE WITH THE, UH, WITH MR. SEWARD THERE. SO WE, WE, WE'VE HAD TIME TO REVIEW IT OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, IT APPEARS TO BE MANY MORE QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WE DON'T WANNA MAKE A HARSH, UH, DECISION ON. SO IF YOU'RE READY TO, UM, ACCEPT THE MOTION, I'LL MAKE ONE TO TABLE IT, SIR. ALL UNTIL, UH, FURTHER FURTHER, UH, DISCUSSION. THANK YOU FOR THAT MR. HARDY. UM, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, I JUST WANT TO GIVE STAFF ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. BUT BEFORE THAT, ANY OTHER BOARD COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, UH, STAFF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UM, MAKE ANY CLOSING REMARKS. YES, SO I, I, I DID HEAR THE COMMENT ON, ON A ECHO WITH MS. PERKINS, IF, IF THE BOARD WAS CONSIDERING, UM, MAYBE A DIFFERENT NUMBER OTHER THAN 10, LIKE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, FIVE, UM, WE CAN LOOK AT STAFF WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE, IN ADDITION TO THE ACREAGE SIZE, LOOK AT THE, UM, THE ROAD FRONTAGE AND, AND SETBACKS FOR THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT FOR THE, THE LOT SIZE. 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO ADJUST IT ACCORDINGLY. I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE, THE, THE BOARD IS LOOKING AT FOR LEAST LIKE THIS TO PROVIDE AS A NEXT STEP, JUST IN CASE YOU ALL CONSIDER, UM, FIVE ACRES AS A, AS A, UH, NEXT STEP INSTEAD OF 10. WE CAN BRING THAT BACK AT YOUR NEXT MEETING IF YOU LIKE. AS WITH, UH, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AT FIVE ACRES WITH LOT SIZE ADJUSTMENTS, SETBACK ADJUSTMENTS AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. WADE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE CHAIR, MR. HARDY? UH, MOVE THAT WE LATER. QUESTION OF PROOF OF ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. UH, BACK FOCUS 2 20 26 DASH OH TWO, UH, ON THE TABLE UNTIL FURTHER DISCUSSION. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY VICE CHAIR HARDY. SECOND BY SUPERVISOR ELLIOT, THAT WE LAID THE QUESTION OF APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2026 DASH OH TWO ON THE TABLE. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON SAID MOTION? HEARING NONE, I'LL NOW VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF SAID MOTION SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE BY SAYING AYE. A. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED AYES HAVE IT. UM, THE, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION WILL BE LAY ON THE TABLE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING. I'LL ASK STAFF IF YOU COULD PLEASE, UH, APPROACH THE PODIUM AND PRESENT THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THAT CAN BE ALRIGHT.

[1:00:03] LET'S SEE. OKAY, THIS NEXT ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IS A SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENT AND SPECIFICALLY IS FOR FAMILY DIVISIONS. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND ARTICLE SIX, SECTION 6.2 A FIVE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS OF THE SUBDIVISION, UH, ORDINANCE OF, SORRY TO ESTABLISH MINIMUM ACREAGE FOR NEWLY CREATED ONE ACRE PARENT PARCELS, FIVE ACRES AND RESIDUAL FIVE ACRES PARCELS PURSUANT TO A FAMILY DIVISION. EXCEPT THAT INSTANCES WHERE THE PARENT PARCEL WAS LAST CONVEYED PRIOR TO OCTOBER 1ST, 2006, THE MINIMUM REVERSED TO ONE ACRE AS A REQUIRED AFFIDAVIT FROM THE OWNER DETAILING CERTAIN INFORMATION AND CERTIFYING THAT THE REQUIREMENTS TO QUALIFY FOR A FAMILY DIVISION HAVE BEEN MET. AND THE RESTRICTIONS ON FUTURE WILL BE FOLLOWED. THIS INCLUDES A MECHANISM TO ALLOW CONVENIENCES BEFORE FIVE YEARS. IN THE CASE OF ENTRUSTING C UH, EXTENUATING CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES, IT LIMITS FAMILY DIVISIONS TO ONLY THE AGRICULTURAL RULES ZONING DISTRICT. UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, UH, WE, WE, WE BROUGHT THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE AS A COMPANION CASE WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, THE AR DISTRICT FOR 10 ACRES. UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS TO, UM, UH, ALLOW FAMILY PEOPLE, PEOPLE OR FAMILY MEMBERS WITHIN THE AR DISTRICT, UM, THAT ALLOWANCE TO, UM, SPLIT PARCELS TO THEIR, UM, WHETHER IT'S HEIRS OR PARENTS OR, OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU. WHAT IS LISTED WITHIN THE FAMILY DIVISION. UM, IT, IT ALLOWS PEOPLE WHO OWN PROPERTY NOW WITHIN SURREY TO HAVE A RESIDUAL OF DOWN TO ONE ACRE. BUT THOSE WHO PURCHASE PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD LIMIT IT DOWN TO A RESIDUAL OF FIVE ACRES. FOR THE PARENT PARCEL, THEY HAVE TO BE ONLY, THEY CAN ONLY BE LEFT WITH FIVE ACRES. THEY HAVE TO, THEY HAVE TO LEAVE AT LEAST FIVE ACRES OF THE ORIGINAL PIECE, BUT THEY CAN SPLIT IT OFF TO AN AIR, SOMEONE ELSE AT AN ACRE FOR THAT PIECE THAT THEY'RE GIFTING. UM, SO THIS IS WHAT THAT DOES. BUT IT ALSO, UM, REQUIRES, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. ALSO ALLOWS, UH, SOME EX EXTENDING CIRCUMSTANCES. UM, IF SOMEONE FOR SOME REASON IS IN SOME TYPE OF LEGAL BOND OR SOMETHING, IT ALLOWS THE PLAN DIRECTOR TO MAKE A DECISION FOR, TO, TO RELIEVE THEM. IF THEY ARE PLANNING TO SELL BEFORE THE FIVE YEARS IS, IS UP BEFORE THEY CAN SELL. OR I THINK, UH, JUST FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEONE GOING THROUGH A DIVORCE, MISS MS. MS. PERKIN MIGHT HAVE SOME, SOME, SOME KIND OF EXAMPLES OF SOME OTHER EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT, BUT IT WOULD BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHEN WE REVIEW THAT. DID YOU? NO. NO. OKAY. BUT, BUT IT, BUT THERE IT WOULD BE UNDER EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT, UM, IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. BUT THE PRIMARY PRIESTS, UM, UH, TRYING TO PRESENT, PRESENT INTO YOU ALL AS A COMPANION CASE, YOU PUT THAT PRESENTATION. MR. WADE, BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WADE AS WHILE HE'S AT THE PODIUM CHAIR? YES. SUPERVISOR HARDY. SO, MR. WADE, SINCE WE TABLED THE LAST UH, LAST ONE WOULD BE PRUDENT TO TABLE THIS ONE AS WELL. TELL THE OTHER ONES KIND OF SIDE AT FIRST. YEAH, I THINK JUST WHEN THE PIECE RIGHT HERE THAT WE HAVE IN HERE, RESIDUAL OF FIVE ACRES, WE, I, I, WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THAT NUMBER IS GONNA BE, AND THE OTHER DISTRICT, MY, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IF WE WERE TABLING THAT ONE, THAT WE WILL ALSO TABLE THIS ONE. 'CAUSE WE, THE WAY I SEE IT IS THEIR COMPANION CASES. THANK FOR THAT. MS. HARDY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS? WELL, YES, MR. STEWART, WE'RE GOING CONTINUE ON WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. YES, WE'RE GONNA, YEAH, WE'RE GOING GO, WE GONNA GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS. ALRIGHT, ? YES, SIR. WE WE'RE NOT GONNA CUT ANY CORNERS, BUT YES, SIR. UH, MR. WAIT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING THAT YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME, THE DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES HEARING AND SEEING NONE. THE PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION FOR THIS IS NOW CLOSED. BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THIS PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC HEARING? SEEING NONE. STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER REMARKS? NO. MY, MY COMMENT SEEING IS AS, AS MR. BEFORE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. WADE. BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE PERTAINING TO THIS, UH, ORDINANCE CHAIR, SUPERVISOR HARDY, I THINK, UH, BASED UPON, UM, RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF AND, UM, AND OUR ACTION ON THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE, I FOLLOW THE SAME. AND, UH, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, LAY THIS QUESTION OF APPROVAL FOR ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. UH, WHAT WE GOT HERE, 2026 DASH 2 0 3. I'M SORRY. OH THREE. UH, ON THE TABLE, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE

[1:05:01] A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY VICE CHAIR HARDY. SECOND BY SUPERVISOR ELLIOT, THAT WE LAID THE PENDING QUESTION ON THE TABLE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON SAID MOTION? HEARING NONE WILL NOW VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF SAID MOTION. SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. UH, THOSE OPPOSED AYE HA. MOTION PASSES THIS EVENING. WE HAVE ONE MORE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. UH, THIS IS ORDINANCE 2026 DASH OH FOUR. I WILL NOW ASK IF STAFF COULD PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM TO PRESENT THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, SIR. THIS LATEST ORDINANCE SAYS A ORDINANCE TO AMEND SECTION TWO, ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 2 1 0 2 DEFINITIONS IN ARTICLE THREE, SECTION THREE 1400, THE CHESAPEAKE BAY PRESERVATION DISTRICT OF THE SURREY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALIGN WITH REGULATORY UPDATES TO THE CHESAPEAKE BAY PRESERVATION ACT OUTLINED IN THE STATE CODE AND THE VIRGINIA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. THE, THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE AS A RESULT OF REVIEW WITH OUR, UM, CHESAPEAKE BAY PRESERVATION STAFF ON AND, AND THAT ARE HOUSED IN, UH, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. UM, THEY HAVE REVIEWED THE LANGUAGE BEFORE US, UM, AND AS, AS A PART OF CHESAPEAKE BAY, THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING, UH, REQUIRED FOR THE NEW CODE AND CUTOUT DATES AND ADMINISTRATIVE CODE ARE, ARE REVOLVING AROUND RESILIENCY. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE, THE, UH, GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS, HAS REQUESTED OR, OR REQUIRED US TO UPDATE. SO WE'RE JUST HERE TONIGHT UPDATING OUR CODE, UM, AS, AS WE'VE ALWAYS DONE, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO CHEST BAY AND ALSO FLOOD PLAIN. WE WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT ASKING FOR YOU ALL TO, UM, TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE. THE PLEA COMMISSION HAS, HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL NINE TO ZERO. UH, SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THAT APPROVAL FOR YOU TONIGHT. I THANK FOR THAT MR. WADE. BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WADE WHILE HE'S AT THE PODIUM? ALRIGHT, SEEING YOU, NONE. WE'LL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE JUST LISTENED TO FROM MR. WADE? SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION IS NOW ENCLO BOARD MEMBERS. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THIS ORDINANCE, MR. CHAIRMAN? MR. IF, IF, IF I MAY JUST, UH, JUST A BIT OF CLARIFICATION. YES. AND, AND THIS WAS, UM, THIS, THIS WAS CLEAR IN THE PUBLIC HEARING AD. SO AS MR. WADE SAID, UM, MANY OF THESE, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 98% OF THESE ARE MANDATED DUE TO STATUTORY AND REGULATORY CHANGES. AND THEN, UM, SOME OF THE CHANGES WERE JUST RECOMMENDED, UM, BY OUR FRIENDS AT VIRGINIA DEQ. UM, THERE WERE PLACES WHERE MAYBE OUR ORDINANCE WAS A, A LITTLE OUT OF DATE. UM, SO I DO, I DON'T WANNA CREATE THE IMPRESSION THAT EVERYTHING WAS, UM, WAS BECAUSE OF RECENT REGULATORY AND STATUTORY CHANGES. SOME OF IT WAS MORE LIKE HOUSEKEEPING CLEANUP, JUST UPON, AGAIN, ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF VIRGINIA DEQ. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY. MS. PERKINS. BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? MS. EXCUSE ME. BOARD COMMENTS? MR. CHAIR? YES. MR. ELLIOT, IF YOU PLEASE THE BOARD, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE WOULD APPROVE. ORDINANCE 20 26 0 4. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY SUPERVISOR ELLIOT, SECOND BY SUPERVISOR SEWARD, THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 2026 DASH OH FOUR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR SAID MOTION? HEARING NONE WILL NOW VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAID MOTION SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED AYE. HAVE IT. MOTION PASSES. NEXT ONE. OUR AGENDA TONIGHT WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS. WE, UH, WE HAVE ONE PRESENTATION FROM OUR VDOT QUARTERLY TRANSPORTATION UPDATE. WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME MR. BRIAN GENTRY OF THE RESIDENCY ADMINISTRATOR OF WILLIAMSBURG RESIDENCY. SO, WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR PEARSON, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. UH, MY NAME IS BRIAN GENTRY. I AM THE RESIDENCY ADMINISTRATOR FOR WILLIAMSBURG, COVERING SURREY YORK AND JAMES CITY COUNTY. I WILL BE FOLLOWING MY PREDECESSOR'S ORIGINAL REPORTING FORMAT THAT HE DID, UH, WITH YOU PREVIOUSLY. HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THAT IF THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCES YOU'D LIKE TO SEE OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN THE FUTURE OR ANY CHANGE IN THAT REPORTING STRUCTURE, I'M, I'M HERE TO REPORT TO YOU. I WANNA PROVIDE YOU THE INFORMATION YOU WANT. SO, UM, IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU JUST LET ME KNOW. BUT FOR NOW, I'M GONNA GO FORWARD WITH, UM, THE, THE NORMAL REPORTING STRUCTURE.

[1:10:02] SO I WANNA START FOR, FOR FOLKS IN THE ROOM AND FOR FOLKS ONLINE WATCHING THE DIRECT CONTACT FOR THE RESIDENCY FOR REPORTING ISSUES, UH, IS 7 5 7 2 5 3 5 1 3 8. AND YOU CAN ALSO SUBMIT SERVICE REQUESTS AND WORK ORDERS THROUGH OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER AT 1 804 ROAD 1 803 6 7 7 6 2 3. MOVING INTO THE SERVICE REQUEST GENERATED HERE IN SURREY COUNTY, I HAVE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, GROUPINGS HERE. THE FIRST ONE IS THE WORK ORDERS THAT ARE GENERATED THROUGH OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER. THESE ARE ONES THAT FOLKS CALL IN TO THE HOTLINE OR TO THE RE SEA AND REPORT ISSUES TO. UH, SO MOST OF THOSE YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBERS, UH, THAT REVOLVE AROUND DEAD ANIMAL REMOVALS. UM, THIS POT TIME OF YEAR, POTHOLE PATCH. AND ACTUALLY TAKE A STEP BACK. UH, PREVIOUS REPORT YOU RECEIVED WAS FOR THE END OF LAST YEAR. SO WHAT I'VE INCLUDED IN THIS QUARTERLY REPORT IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST HALF OF THE CALENDAR YEAR FROM JANUARY ONE THROUGH, UH, JUNE 30TH. UH, STEPPING RIGHT BACK TO WHERE I WAS SAYING, SO YOU'LL SEE WE DID A LOT OF POTHOLE REPAIRS. DEAD ANIMAL REMOVALS, DEBRIS REMOVAL WAS A BIG DEAL, UM, THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF THE YEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE NOTICED, BUT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PHANTOM TREES FALLING AND NOT NECESSARILY STORM RELATED, UM, BUT TREES JUST DROPPING. UH, IT'S BEEN A CASE ACROSS ALL THREE OF MY COUNTIES FOR WHATEVER REASON. UH, WE'VE HAD, UH, THEM WEAKENED BY STORMS AND THEY, THEY WAIT TILL A SUNNY DAY TO FALL DOWN. BUT THERE'S ABOUT THE, WE HAVE HIGH NUMBERS THERE. UH, SO YOU'LL SEE FOR THE CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER GENERATED WORK REQUESTS, THEY GOT ABOUT A 90% COMPLETION RATE. SO 151 OUT OF 168 THAT ARE GENERATED THROUGH THERE. LOOKING AT THE SECOND PART OF THOSE, THOSE ARE OUR AREA HEADQUARTERS STAFF AND AGENCY GENERATED SERVICE REQUESTS. NOW THESE ARE THINGS THAT THEY WILL DO AS PLANNED WORK OR THAT THEY'LL COME ACROSS IN, IN THEIR RIDE AROUNDS, EVALUATING THE ROADWAYS TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT THEY COME ACROSS. UM, YOU'LL ALSO SEE THEIR PLANNED WORK FOR PAVEMENT RES STRIPING FOR, UH, UNPAVED ROAD GRADING AND A LOT OF OUR TREE TRIMMING AND PRUNING. THIS IS ALSO WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE BULK OF OUR MOWING OPERATIONS. SO IN SURREY COUNTY, UH, WHILE WE DO DO A PORTION OF IT AS CONTRACT MOWING, OUR LOCAL AREA HEADQUARTERS DOES A LARGE PORTION OF THE SECONDARY MOWING AS WELL. SO, EXCUSE ME. SO THEY'RE COMPLETING ABOUT 90 PER 98% OF THOSE. SO THEY'VE SET A HIGH BAR FOR THEMSELVES, UM, TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THEY COME ACROSS. UH, A FEW HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE PAST SIX MONTHS, UM, THAT THE AREA HEADQUARTERS SUPERINTENDENT ASKED THAT I POINTED OUT IT WAS A LARGE DITCHING PROJECT THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON. WHITE MARSH ROAD IS ABOUT TWO MILES OF DRAINAGE DITCH THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON. THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF EXTENSIVE POTHOLE PATCH PATCHING ON SECONDARY ROUTES. YOU, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THEM WE'RE DOING THE SPRAY INJECTION PATCH AND, UM, IT COMES ON A TRUCK AND THEY COME AND THEY SPRAY THE TACK IN THE HOLE AND THEY PATCH IT OUT. IT'S ALL A SELF-CONTAINED UNIT. IT HELPS US, UM, KNOCK 'EM OUT A LOT QUICKER WHEN THEY'RE REPORTED. UM, ALONG WITH THAT, WE'RE ALSO DOING A LOT OF SITE DISTANCE WITH THE, UM, MOWING AND BRUSH CUTTING THAT GOES ALONG WITH NORMAL MOWING OPERATIONS. SOME PLANNED MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES. UPCOMING. WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE OUR MOWING CYCLES. WE HAVE, YOU'LL SEE WHEN WE GET DOWN TO IT, BUT WE GOT A COUPLE MORE ONE IN PROGRESS AND ONE MORE COMMON. UM, SO THOSE WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR. UH, WE'VE GOT SOME SITE DISTANCE TREE TRIMMINGS ALONG ROUTE SIX 14 CAMERON ROAD, 6 0 7 HUNTINGTON ROAD AND 6 0 8 OAK HILL ROAD. UH, ROAD GRADING COMING UP FOR 6 47 CYPRESS SWAMP ROAD AND THE AREA HEADQUARTERS. ON THIS SIDE OF THE WATER, THEY DO ALL THEIR OWN SIGN MAINTENANCE. SO THEY'LL BE DOING GENERAL SIGN MAINTENANCE AND OBJECT MARKER INSTALLATIONS. LOOK OVER, UH, JUST GOING OVER AND KIND OF RECAPPING OUR 2026 RESURFACING SCHEDULE. UM, I KNOW IT WAS COMPLETED EARLIER IN THE YEAR. THEY STARTED IN SURREY FIRST THIS YEAR, SO WE ACTUALLY GOT IT KNOCKED OUT QUICK FOR WHATEVER REASON. IT'S GENERALLY ON THE BACK END OF THE SCHEDULES, BUT THEY KNOCKED SURREY OUT FIRST THIS YEAR. SO WE HAD THE LATEX MODIFIED ON, UM, 31 UP THROUGH, UH, RIGHT UP HERE INTO TOWN. AND THEN THE SURFACE TREATMENT, HUNTINGTON ROAD THREE BRIDGES ROAD AND OAK HILL ROAD. ALL OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. NOW, UH, AS I SAID, THE MOWING CYCLES, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN CYCLE THREE OF FOUR. THAT IS DONE YEARLY. THE FOURTH CYCLE WILL BEGIN, IS SLATED TO BEGIN DECEMBER 30TH.

[1:15:01] ALL THAT'S WEATHER, DEPENDING, UH, IF WE GET, UH, A WET PERIOD AND WE CAN PUSH THAT LAST MOTORCYCLE BACK THAN WE TRY TO. UH, JUST TO MAKE IT LAST FURTHER INTO THE WINTERTIME. 'CAUSE WE, WHEN THE TEMPERATURES ARE MILD, WE TEND TO HAVE A LONGER GROWING SEASON. AND WE ARE, WE'RE ONLY FUNDED FOR FOUR CYCLES. SO WE, IF WE CAN PUSH IT BACK AND IT'S NECESSARY, WE WILL DO SO FROM OUR LAND USE SECTION. UH, FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR, WE HAD 14 PLAN REVIEWS PROCESSED, 28 PERMITS ISSUED, AND 51 PERMITS CLOSED. NOW I WILL SAY, UM, OUR LAND USE SECTION THAT HAD A DIRECTIVE TO GO BACK AND CLOSE OUT SOME OUTSTANDING PERMITS, WE HAD 'EM ACROSS ALL THREE COUNTIES. SOME THAT WERE OPEN FOR A YEAR, THAT THE, THE VENDOR UTILITY OPERATOR NEVER CAME BACK TO REQUEST CLOSEOUT. SO THAT'S WHY YOU, THAT NUMBER MAY SEEM HIGH, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP FROM, FROM FOLKS THAT DIDN'T GET THEM CLOSED OUT. THEY DIDN'T, THEY HAVE TO GENERATE THE REQUEST FOR US TO CLOSE IT OUT BEFORE WE CAN DO IT. SO, UH, IT'S BEEN A PROCESS OF COORDINATION TO GET THOSE DONE. SOME TRAFFIC ENGINEERING UPDATES. UH, HAD A REVIEW FOR SCHOOL BUS SIGNAGE ON ROTH HIGHWAY 7 3 0 6. SUBMITTED THAT FOR REVIEW BACK IN JANUARY. THAT STUDY DIDN'T WRAP UP UNTIL JULY AND THE SIGN WAS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED ON THE 13TH OF AUGUST. SECOND ONE WAS ALSO FOR A SCHOOL BUS SIGN THAT WAS SUBMITTED BACK IN MAY. THE COM STUDY WAS COMPLETED IN AUGUST AS WELL. NOW THIS ONE I WAS TOLD IT WAS COMPLETED. I'VE GOT THE WORK ORDER STATING COMPLETED. I SPOKE TO THE HOMEOWNER THAT REPORTED IT TO ME TODAY, AS A MATTER OF FACT. UM, AND HE HAS SAID IT IS NOT UP, BUT THEY HAVE MARKED FOR IT. UH, SO THE INADVERTENTLY THEY TOLD ME IT WAS COMPLETED, THAT'S WHY I TOLD YOU IT WAS COMPLETED. BUT FOLLOWING UP TODAY WITH THE CUSTOMER, IT HAS NOT, BUT IT DID. THE, IT IS MARKED SO THE UTILITIES CAN BE LOCATED SO THE SIGN CAN BE INSTALLED. UH, AND ALSO ON BEACHLAND ROAD, THEY ARE DOING AN ASSESSMENT OR THEY COMPLETED THE ASSESSMENT FOR CURVE WARNING SIGNAGE AND THAT THAT SIGNAGE WAS ALSO INSTALLED. LOOKING AT WHAT I HAVE IN THE QUEUE, AND THOSE ARE ONES THAT ARE EITHER SCHEDULED FOR REVIEW OR WAITING TO BE PLACED INTO THE QUEUE FOR REVIEW. UH, THOSE FOR SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE INTERSECTION OF 40 AND 10. UM, I TALKED TO THE, YOUR HIGHWAY SAFETY TRANSPORTATION GROUP BACK IN MAY OR JUNE. UM, AND DISCUSS THIS WITH THEM. THERE'S BEEN A SOMEWHAT OF A RASH OF ACCIDENTS THERE. SO WE WERE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY FOR RUMBLE STRIPS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UH, GENERALLY DON'T WANNA PUT THOSE ANYWHERE NEAR HOME BECAUSE THEY'RE LOUD, BUT MAYBE THEY'RE SOME ALTERNATIVE, UH, CENTER LINE RUMBLES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT FOR. THAT HAS BEEN IN THE QUEUE SINCE FEBRUARY. I DO NOT HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT. I DO KNOW IT IS IN THE QUEUE THOUGH. UH, ALSO HAVE THE REVIEW FOR SAFETY IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES AT THE INTERSECTION OF HOG ISLAND ROAD AND ROUTE 10, AS WELL AS HOG ISLAND ROAD AND BACONS CASTLE ROAD. THIS IS ALSO IN THE QUEUE FOR THE STUDY. THIS WAS ALSO SOMETHING I DISCUSSED WITH THE HIGHWAY SAFETY TRANSPORTATION GROUP. UH, ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE REVIEW FOR CURVE AND EDGE LINE MARKINGS ON ROUTE SIX 18. HOLLY BUSH. THAT IS IN THE QUEUE. IT WAS ONLY SUBMITTED THIS PAST JUNE. AND THEN FINALLY I'VE GOT A REVIEW IN FOR CENTER LINE MARKING WARRANT CHANGES TO D DETERMINE IF THAT NEEDS TO BE A SOLID DOUBLE YELLOW IF IT NEEDS TO HAVE REMOVED THE PASSING RESTRICTIONS. UM, THAT WAS JUST, I JUST SUBMITTED THAT LAST WEEK. SO, AND THEN FINALLY I'VE GOT A COUPLE PICTURES IN HERE. JUST SOME OF THE, UH, THINGS THAT THE LOCAL AREA HEADQUARTERS IS WORKING ON. I TALKED ABOUT THEM MOWING SITE DISTANCES. THIS, UH, THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS OUR BOOM AX AND IT IS HAS A TELESCOPIC ARM THAT THEY CAN REACH, YOU KNOW, 12, 18 FEET DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY'RE AT FROM THE ROADWAY TO TRIM BACK WITHIN TO THE RIGHT OF WAY. UM, SOME OF OUR RIGHT OF AWAYS EXTEND WELL OUT FROM THE ROAD EDGE. SO THAT COMES IN HANDY OUT HERE. AND THEN, UH, THE, THE SECOND PAGE THERE HAS A COUPLE PICTURES OF ONE OF THE GULLY WASHERS KIND OF WASHED OUT AN AREA HERE AT THIS DRESS. AND, UM, THEY KINDA REBUILT IT, STABILIZED IT WITH SOME MILLINGS, UM, TO REPAIR THAT LOCATION. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, THAT IS MY REPORT TO YOU. AND IF, LIKE I SAID, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY CHANGES YOU WANNA SEE IN THIS FORMAT, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON

[1:20:01] INFORMATION YOU WANT, BY ALL MEANS, LET ME KNOW. I LEFT CARDS, UM, IF YOU DIDN'T GET ONE, UH, I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE. I'LL, I'LL LEAVE WITH YOU CHAIRMAN PIERCE AND YOU CAN DISTRIBUTE TO EVERYBODY ELSE. WITH THAT SAID, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING FOR ME? THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. GENTRY AND PR REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION. UH, UH, BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? CHAIR, MR. HARDY? YEAH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANKS. UH, I KNOW WE HAD A RECENT, UM, CITIZEN, UM, WORKED OUR TENURE, SOME LINE OF SITE ISSUES ON HO ISLAND ROAD AND, UM, KNOW YOU GUYS, YOU DIDN'T HAVE IT IN A PRESENTATION, BUT, UM, THEY WENT OUT AND DID A, UH, SUPERB JOB, UM, OF ADDRESSING THEIR CITIZEN'S ISSUES, UM, AND SPECIAL THINGS ALSO, ALSO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO, UM, YOU KNOW, GOT INVOLVED. THEY WOULD HAVE PUT EYES ON. I THINK THEY DIDN'T CONTACT YOU ALL, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S A GREAT PROCESS AND IT WORKS. IT MIGHT TAKE TIME SOMETIMES, BUT IT DEFINITELY WORKS. SO THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO. I'LL MAKE SURE I PASS THAT ALONG TO THE AREA HEADQUARTERS 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT MAKE IT HAPPEN. THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. HARDY. ANY OTHER QUE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I, I HAVE A QUESTION. MR. STEWART. THE, UM, THE BIG ORANGE MOBILE SOLAR POWERED SIGNAGE, THAT'S, THERE'S ONE AT ROUTE 10 AND 31 INTERSECTION AND THERE'S ONE DOWN NEAR ALLIANCE ROAD INTERSECTION MESSAGE BOARDS. YEAH. WHAT ARE THEY, UH, WHAT ARE THEY MESSAGING? I MEAN, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING ON 'EM MYSELF. I, I JUST, ARE THEY, WELL, , WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED? I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT. OKAY. . YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, I CUT THE GRASS AROUND MORE. . WELL, . SO LOOK, I LIVE IN, I LIVE IN GLOUCESTER. I GET OVER HERE EVERY CHANCE I GET, BUT I STILL DON'T KNOW THIS AREA AS WELL AS, AS MOST THE FOLKS THAT LIVE OUT HERE. OKAY. FOR SURE. WELL, I MEAN, I, THEY MAY HAVE A REALLY GOOD PURPOSE. I'VE JUST NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT 'EM. AND, AND WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIKE, TO FIND OUT. SO, SO WHERE ARE THEY AT NOW? I, ONE OF 'EM IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, COLO OF RALPH HIGHWAY AND KONA TRAIL WEST. THERE'S ONE AND 10. MM-HMM . AND WHERE'S THE OTHER ONE? IT IS NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF ALLIANCE ROAD AND COLONIAL TRAIL EAST. I WILL FIND OUT AND LET YOU KNOW. WELL, I KEEP, I'M, I'VE SEEN LIKE THREE DIFFERENT TIMES. THEY, THEY'RE, I'M PULL UP THERE AND THEY'RE JUST LEAVING, LIKE SWITCHING THEM OUT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I'VE BEEN, I'VE RUN TO 'EM REAL QUICK, BUT THEY LEAVE ON ME. SO I HAVEN'T FOUND OUT WHAT THEY WERE, WELL, IT'S NOT LIKELY MY, MY MAINTENANCE STAFF. UM, SO I, I, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHO'S GOT PERMITS PULLED. OKAY. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MM-HMM . THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. STEWART, BOARD MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? MR. GENTER? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. UH, I'M, I'M REAL BIG ON PICTURES FOR AS FAR AS BEFORE AND AFTER, BECAUSE I THINK, UH, THE CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY SEE SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE BEING DONE, UH, JUST TO SHOW, GIVE YOU GUYS CREDIT TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AND JUST TO GIVE A KUDOS, UH, UM, HOLLY BUS ROAD, I ALWAYS ADMIRE WHEN THEY, UH, THE GUYS COME AND CUT THE GRASS ON THERE. UH, THEY REALLY TAKE THEIR TIME AND REALLY DETAILED AND IT REALLY MAKES IT LOOK, UH, GREAT AS PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE HERE. SO, UM, WHEN YOU GET SOME TIME, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, GET A TOUR OF SERVICE SINCE YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, WANT TO LEARN THE AREA, YOU KNOW, PLEASE CONTACT US AND MAYBE WE COULD ARRANGE, UH, A, UH, A TOUR IN A SENSE. ABSOLUTELY. TO, UH, GET YOU ACQUAINTED, UH, TO, TO OUR COMMUNITY. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND BOARD MEMBERS NEXT ON OUR AGENDA. WE HAVE BOARD COMMENTS, UH, THIS EVENING WE'LL START OUR BOARD COMMENTS WITH MR. STEWART, IF YOU HAVE ANY. NO, I THINK I'M GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MR. STEWART, SUPERVISOR ELLIOT. UH, CHAIRMAN PIERCE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE. UH, I AM ON THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION THAT, UH, DEALS WITH EIGHT DIFFERENT COUNTIES. AND THIS PAST WEEK HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, MC A PROGRAM. WE HAD THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR A BRAND NEW CHILDCARE FACILITY IN BRUNSWICK COUNTY. AND WE'VE GOTTEN, UH, SOME INPUT FROM THE WORKFORCE, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, PORTION OF THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION. I GOT FOUR INDIVIDUALS TO ENTER INTO THE WORKFORCE PROGRAM AND I'M JUST EXCITED ABOUT THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION AND, UH, SURY COUNTY. WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING MANY MORE BENEFITS FROM IT. WE KNOW THAT OUR HEAD START IS A PART OF IT, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY MORE BENEFITS THAT WE WANNA BRING TO SUR COUNTY FROM THE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION. AND, UH, THE CITIZENS THAT SPOKE ON THE SUN OF METAL PROJECT, I WANTED TO ADDRESS THEM, BUT IT CAN GO INTO RECORD THAT I DO PLAN ON GETTING THIS, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PARCEL

[1:25:01] UNCLE MEADOW WAS IN MY DISTRICT, AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO TNC AND I WILL BE GETTING BACK WITH THEM, UH, TO GET MORE CLARITY ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WAS TOLD TO US IN A MEETING. I WANTED THEM TO KNOW THAT, THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT, UH, BEING GIVEN ATTENTION TO BY THEIR REPRESENTATIVE AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. SO I WILL BE GETTING BACK WITH THEM AND GETTING AN UPDATE TO THE BOARD TO LET YOU ALL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY STAND ON, UH, THE ALLEGATIONS THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE MADE BECAUSE THEY DID REPRESENT A WHOLE DIFFERENT PICTURE. AND WE WOULD GET SOME CLARITY ON THAT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. AND I DO, UH, I THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE, BUT THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY NEEDS TO KNOW THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES NOT CONTROL WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA. WE CAN ONLY CONTROL WHAT WE SAY. WE DO NOT CONTROL WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY. AND I DON'T WANT SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE TO CAUSE OR SEEM LIKE THERE'S SOME DIVISION WITHIN THE BOARD. UH, MR. DREW CAN SPEAK FOR HIMSELF, BUT MR. DREW DID NOT MAKE ANY DISPARAGING COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT MR. SEWARD SAID. AND THAT'S AN ATTEMPTING TO CAUSE DIVISION WITHIN THE BOARD. WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE. I JUST WANT THE CITIZENS TO KNOW THAT WE WILL CALL OUT MISINFORMATION BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO BE MISINFORMED WHEN WE SEE IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. BUT WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK DOWN ANYBODY. AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THE CITIZENS DON'T TALK DOWN TO US. IF YOU WANT TO BE A FRIEND OR WANT US TO BE FRIENDLY, BE FRIENDLY TO US. IF YOU WANT RESPECT, GIVE RESPECT. IT GOES BOTH WAYS. WE ARE NOT HERE TO DISRESPECT YOU, BUT IF YOU PUT OUT MISINFORMATION AND DISIN INFORM THE CITIZENS WHAT'S GOING ON, IT IS OUR DUTY TO LET THE CITIZENS KNOW WHAT'S TRUE. WE DO IT IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER, BUT WHATEVER THE CITIZENS DO, DON'T HOLD THAT ON THE HEADS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SUPERVISOR ELLIOT, SUPERVISOR DREW, GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. UH, CHAIR. GOOD EVENING. UM, I FIRST START OFF, UM, EARLIER THIS, WELL, LAST MONTH NOW, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE HUNT INSTITUTE. UM, IT WAS A TWO DAY CONFERENCE, UM, LEARNING ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF CHILDCARE AND EARLY EDUCATION, UM, AND ALSO K THROUGH 12 EDUCATION. UM, HAD SOME, UM, VERY INSIGHTFUL CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, A BIPARTISAN COHORT. UM, JUST LEARNING ABOUT HOW WE CAN ONE, BE BETTER. UM, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR, OUR, UH, YOUTH A LOT BETTER, BUT ALSO BE BETTER PARTNERS WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS AS WELL. I ALSO HAD THE AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, BE AT THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL, UH, WHILE A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAME OUT. UM, IT WAS GREAT TO SEE, UM, ALL THE DIFFERENT GREEK ORGS, UM, DIFFERENT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS COME OUT TO CHEER ON THE STUDENTS AS THEY HAD A SUCCESSFUL FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL AND SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL YEAR. UM, ALSO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE SUNKEN MEDALS OF ADVOCACY FOLKS, UM, THE RESIDENTS FOR COMING OUT. UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT. I ALSO LOOK FORWARD, I'M GONNA DO SOME RESEARCH AS WELL, BUT I ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT, UM, DR. ELLIOT BRINGS BACK AS WELL. UM, UH, I THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. UM, DULY NOTED, DULY NOTED. UM, ESPECIALLY THE ONES ABOUT, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMUNICATION BECAUSE I THINK THAT CAN GO BOTH WAYS. UM, ACTUALLY I DON'T THINK, I KNOW THAT CAN GO BOTH WAYS. UM, AND I WILL JUST SAY THAT, UM, EVERYTHING I SAID WAS THE TRUTH. SOMETIMES THE TRUTH HURTS. UM, THERE WAS NO INFO MISINFORMATION, IT WAS ALL FACTS. BUT WHAT I DO ASK IS THAT WE, WE AS A COMMUNITY STOPPED SPREADING MISINFORMATION BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE, UM, PEOPLE GET A LITTLE CONFUSED. UH, UM, YOU KNOW, THEN IT GOES TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND FOLKS CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IT AND TALK ABOUT IT, AND THEN IT SPREADS OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNTY. AND THEN FOLKS SEE, OH WAIT, THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR STUFF TOGETHER. WHERE THAT IS REALLY NOT THE PICTURE. WE, UM, DO HAVE OUR, OUR DIFFICULTIES. UM, WE AS A BOARD, UM, WE DON'T, WON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON EVERYTHING. UM, THAT, LIKE I SAID LAST, EARLIER, LAST MONTH, THAT IS PART OF BEING, UM, IN A DEMOCRACY. WE WON'T AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT WE DO HAVE THE BEST INTERESTS FOR OUR COUNTY. UM, AND, AND I WOULD JUST LEAVE IT AT THIS, THAT THE CHANGE DOES START WITH THE MAN IN THE MIRROR. SO SOMETIMES WE GOTTA LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SEE, UM, AND EVALUATE OUR OWN SELVES. AND I DO THAT EVERY DAY BECAUSE I EXPECT AND MYSELF TO BE THE LEADER, UM, THE BEST LEADER OF MY ABILITIES FOR THE YOUNG, MIDDLE, AGE AND SEASON FOLKS. UM, SO I WILL LEAVE THAT AT THAT. AND THEN THE LAST THING IN A REALLY GOOD NOTE, UM, JUST A LITTLE ABOUT MYSELF. I WAS, UM, RECENTLY APPOINTED TO THE VIRGINIA COMMISSION ON MEN AND BOYS BY GOVERNOR SPAN BERGER. UM, THIS IS REALLY, UH, MONUMENTAL FOR ACCOUNTING. 'CAUSE I GET TO SEND A COMMISSION WHERE I GET TO ADVOCATE FOR JUST THE NEEDS AND BRING SOME EXPERTISE TO THE COMMISSION TO ENSURE THAT OUR MEN AND BOYS ARE NOT LEFT BEHIND WITHIN THE COMMONWEALTH, BUT ALSO SURREY COUNTY. UM, SO I THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING OUT HERE AGAIN. UM, AND CHAIR, THAT'S ENDS MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. DREW, VICE CHAIR HARDY. THANKS, CHAIR. I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. UH, GREAT MEETING. THANKS FOR EVERYONE CAME OUT. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING MORE INVERSE WITH THE, UH, SUNKEN MEADOW, UH,

[1:30:01] TNC, UH, UH, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT ISSUE OR SCENARIO. I'M REALLY OUT OF TUNE WITH THAT. I'VE SEEN THE MEETINGS POSTED ONLINE, BUT YOU KNOW, BY THAT BEING, YOU KNOW, FAR AWAY FROM THE GREAT, BECAUSE THE CASTLE DISTRICT, I'VE KIND OF BEEN OUT TUNE WITH THAT. SO DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME MORE INFORMATION AND, AND, UM, I THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMMENTING ON THAT. AND, UM, I'LL JUST SAY, YOU SEE, WE ALL KIND OF DRESSED DOWN TONIGHT. UH, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO LEAVE HERE AND GET TO SY COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAME TONIGHT. SO GO COUGARS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. VICE CHAIR HARDY. UM, AS ALWAYS, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. THOSE ARE WATCHING FROM THE, THE COMFORTS OF THEIR HOME OR, OR AT WORK, WHEREVER THEY MAY BE. UM, TRY TO MAKE MY COMMENTS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE. I JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR AUDIENCE THAT WE ARE HAD HERE TONIGHT. FOR THE RECORD, WANNA SHOUT OUT OUR SHERIFF. THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO. UH, WE HAD DR. MONROE, SUPERINTENDENT, WE HAD DR. WOODEN, OUR ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. OUR REGISTRAR, MS, UH, CHARNAY WHITE AS WELL AS A, A FEW OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS. I RECOGNIZE YOU ALL AS WELL. UM, ALSO OUR CHIP POKE STAFF. I SEE YOU OVER THERE AS WELL. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING HERE ON THIS EVENING AS WELL. AND AS ALWAYS, WANT TO SHOUT TO ALL THE GREAT CAUSLEY REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE IN HERE THIS EVENING. , RIGHT? I SEE YOU ALL . UM, MS. MS. SUMMERS, OUR, OUR, UM, STUDENT LIAISON IS ACTUALLY, UM, MR. HARDY MADE A COMMENT ABOUT OUR GAME ON THIS EVENING, AND SHE'S ACTUALLY THE DRUM MAJOR FOR OUR BAND. SO, UH, SHE, SHE WILL BE IN HERE, BUT SHE'S SENDING HER REGARDS. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW WHERE SHE IS ON THIS EVENING. UM, I ALSO WANT TO, UH, REMIND EVERYONE TO BE CAUTIOUS AND TO BE PATIENT, UM, AS YOU'RE TRAVELING THE ROADS THIS TIME OF THE YEAR. UM, AS, AS YOU MAY KNOW AND MAY NOT KNOW, IT IS HARVEST SEASON. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR FARMERS WITH HEAVY, LARGE EQUIPMENT TRAVELING UP AND DOWN THE ROADS. TRUST ME, I'M ONE OF 'EM. I KNOW I'M TRYING TO GET OFF THE ROAD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT SAFELY AS POSSIBLE. OKAY? SO PLEASE BE PATIENT AND PLEASE BE UNDERSTANDING WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT. AND, UM, LASTLY, I'M JUST GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, I, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS TONIGHT, UM, TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON IN, IN THE CLAREMONT DISTRICT. THANK YOU FOR, FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. UM, I'M HOPING THAT THERE COULD BE A, A GREAT RESOLVE ON THAT ISSUE, UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF, OF, OF DEVELOPMENT COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY, TRYING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO, UM, DISMANTLE OUR INTEGRITY OF WHO WE ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY. UH, LISTENING TO THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT, UH, THANK YOU BOARD MEMBERS FOR, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK TO THE TABLE, LET'S LOOK AT IT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION, UH, BEING THAT THE CITIZENS, UH, ARE ASKING FOR A QUALITY OF LIFE, YOU KNOW, A RURAL, UH, HERITAGE, UM, ASPECT, BUT AS WELL AS AS GROWTH AND HOUSING. SO WE HAVE TO FIND A MEDIUM. AND I FEEL LIKE ANYTIME YOU HAVE TO COMPROMISE ONE OF 'EM, WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE TABLE. SO AGAIN, UH, THANK YOU, UH, FOR MY PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, THANK YOU BOARD MEMBERS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND STAFF, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND DILIGENCE. AND LASTLY, I'LL JUST LEAVE ON THIS NOTE. I, I KNOW WE HEARD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA TONIGHT. AND AGAIN, I'M A SCHOOL TEACHER. I TRY TO TELL MY STUDENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS YOU SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA ARE I, I JUST CUT IT TO THE CHASE. IT'S NOT REAL. EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION. EVERYONE HAS, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION THEY WANT TO SHARE. BUT I'LL ALWAYS, UH, REMIND EVERYONE TO ALWAYS FACT CHECK YOUR INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, GO TO THE SOURCE. UM, YOU HAVE, UM, UH, DIFFERENT HOTLINES, DIFFERENT NUMBERS YOU CAN CALL TO ACQUIRE MORE INFORMATION IF NEED BE. BUT PLEASE, LET'S NOT TAKE SOCIAL MEDIA. MM. SO, SO SERIOUS. ALL RIGHT. UH, AGAIN, IT'S, UH, I REMEMBER SOCIAL MEDIA FROM WHAT IT WAS WHEN IT FIRST STARTED. IT WAS FOR COLLEGE STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, UH, JUST TO BE ABLE TO, UM, TO CONTACT YOUR FRIENDS. THEY WERE IN COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE TEXT MESSAGING. WE DIDN'T HAVE SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE NOW, BUT, UH, YEAH, BEFORE YOUR TIME MR. DREW. BUT, UH, BUT , BUT YEAH, BUT, BUT NOW TO SEE HOW IT'S USED, UH, TO, UH, I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE HAVE GOOD INTENT TO TRY TO SPREAD INFORMATION, BUT SOME PEOPLE USE SOCIAL MEDIA JUST TO DO THE OPPOSITE, EXACT OPPOSITE. SO IT'S, IT, IT DEPENDS ON US TO USE OUR OWN, UM, GOOD KNOWLEDGE, OUR OWN OWN SOUND JUDGMENT TO REALLY DECIDE ON WHAT TO BELIEVE AND WHAT NOT TO BELIEVE. BUT AGAIN, I ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO COME TO THE SOURCE. ALL RIGHT? AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO ANYTHING DEALING WITH SARA COUNTY, UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER THAT YOU CAN CALL. IF YOU HAVE BOARD MEMBERS YOU CAN CONTACT, PLEASE USE THE RIGHT PROCESS AND RIGHT CHANNELS TO GET THE ANSWERS AND INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I AM DONE WITH MY COMMENTS. I ASK EVERYONE, PLEASE DRIVE HOME SAFELY THIS EVENING. IF YOU HAVE SOME TIME, GO OUT AND CHECK. UM, DREW ON OUR, OUR FOOTBALL TEAM. UH, THE GAME STARTS AT 7 45 AND THIS IS THE FIRST HOME GAME OF THE SEASON, SO I'M HOPING YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO ATTEND. UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO OUR INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. MR. HARRISON, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN PIERCE, VICE CHAIR HARDY BOARD MEMBERS, AND EVERYONE ASSEMBLED. UH, MY FIRST ITEM ON MY COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE

[1:35:01] COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT THIS EVENING, UH, WILL BE THE INTRODUCTION OF OUR NEW FINANCE DIRECTOR. I AM PLEASED TO INTRODUCE MELISSA HARVEY. AS SURREY COUNTY'S NEW FINANCE DIRECTOR, MELISSA BRINGS MORE THAN 28 YEARS OF FINANCIAL LEADERSHIP AND BANKING EXPERIENCE TO THE POSITION, INCLUDING 18 YEARS IN BANKING WITH WACHOVIA, WHERE SHE SERVED AS AN ASSISTANT VICE PRESIDENT AND 10 YEARS AS DIRECTOR OF FINANCE FOR SURREY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. MELISSA HOLDS A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN ACCOUNTING AND A MASTER'S IN SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION. DURING HER TENURE WITH SUR COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, SHE HAS OVERSEEN THE SCHOOL DIVISION'S FINANCIAL OPERATIONS, INCLUDING BUDGETING, PAYROLL, PROCUREMENT GRANT, FINANCIAL REPORTING, AND AUDIT COMPLIANCE, AND HAS ACHIEVED 10 CONSECUTIVE CLEAN. SHE HAS ALSO WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTY ON FINANCIAL MATTERS AND THE TRANSITION TO THE MUNIS FINANCIAL SYSTEM. HER EXTENSIVE FINANCIAL EXPERIENCE, KNOWLEDGE OF SURY COUNTY AND COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE WILL BE VALUABLE AS SHE ASSUMES LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTY FINANCE DEPARTMENT. WE ARE PLEASED TO WELCOME MELISSA HARVEY AS FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR SUR COUNTY. AND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE HER TO THE PODIUM FOR COMMENTS AND REMARKS. THANK YOU, MR. HARRISON. GOOD AFTERNOON. CHAIRMAN PIERCE, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND ALL IN ATTENDANCE. FIRST, I NEED TO THANK MY VILLAGE, MY HUSBAND OF 38 YEARS. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR TOLERANCE. , THANK YOU TO EVERYONE ELSE WHO IS HERE AS A SIGN OF SUPPORT. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE EVERYONE IN SURREY COUNTY WITH THE SAME ENTHUSIASM THAT I HAVE SERVED IN A TEACHER CAPACITY AS WELL AS FINANCE CAPACITY AT SURREY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. I'D LIKE TO THANK DR. MONROE AND DR. WOODEN ALSO FOR BEING HERE FROM SURREY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AS WE ALL DEEPEN THE FINANCIAL RELATIONSHIP AND DO WHAT'S BEST IN THE NAME OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE SURREY COUNTY. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. MY SECOND ITEM, UM, ON MY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT IS THE COUNTY WATER SYSTEM GRANT AWARD. UM, FOLLOWING A RIGOROUS APPLICATION AND REVIEW PROCESS, SURY COUNTY HAS BEEN FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE CONGRESSIONAL FUNDING THROUGH THREE SEPARATE GRANT AWARDS FOR CLEAN WATER PROJECTS IN EXCESS OF $5 MILLION FOR FY 22 AN AWARD. AN AMOUNT, UH OH. SIRI WANTS TO HELP ME OUT WITH THIS REPORT TONIGHT. FOR FY 22 AN AWARD AND THE AMOUNT OF $3.2 MILLION FOR FY 24, 950 $9,752. AND MOST RECENTLY FY 26, CONGRESS AWARDED $1,092,000 TO THE COUNTY. COUNTY STAFF APPLIED FOR A COST SHARE WAIVER THAT WAS A GRANTED FOR EACH FISCAL YEAR'S AWARD, THEREBY REPRESENTING OUR COST SAVINGS TO THE COUNTY IN EXCESS OF $1.3 MILLION. I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE MRS. PERKINS AND MR. WADE FOR CHAMPIONING, FOR CHAMPIONING THE COST SHARE WAIVER. LET'S GIVE MY HAND. THE COLLECTIVE FUNDS ARE BEING UTILIZED FOR ALL ASPECTS OF BOTH COMPONENTS OF THE FUTURE COMBINED SYSTEM TO INCLUDE ENGINEERING, DESIGN, ENVIRONMENTAL, AND CONSTRUCTION. THE PROJECTS ARE AT THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN STAGE. THE COUNTY HAS BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE EPA WHO ADMINISTERS THE GRANT FUNDING AND HAS STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS FOR GRANT RECIPIENTS. THIS PROJECT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW COUNTY ADMINISTRATION WORKS COLLABORATIVELY TO REDUCE THE FISCAL IMPACT OF NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE SUR COUNTY COMMUNITY. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT. I THINK YOU PUT THAT MR. HARRISON. THAT'S GREAT NEWS. LET'S GET ALL THAT UP. ANOTHER A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. NEXT, IN OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, WE HAVE OUR REPORTS. WE HAVE FIVE REPORTS, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, BUILDING OFFICIALS MONTHLY REPORT PERMITS ISSUE FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, 2026. YOU HAVE NUMBER TWO, YOUR S COUNTY INSPECTION PERFORMANCE BY DISTRICT AND PASS AND FAIL RATE, JULY, 2026. NUMBER THREE, YOUR BUILDING OFFICIALS OFFICE MONTHLY REPORT PERMITS ISSUED FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST, 2026, NUMBER FOUR. THEN INSPECTION PERFORMANCE BY DISTRICT AND PASS FAIL RATE, AUGUST, 2026. AND NUMBER FIVE FOR YOUR REQUEST SUMMARY FOR AUGUST, 2026. I, I HOPE THAT YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO, UH, REVIEW THOSE REPORTS. UH, NEXT IS OUR, FOR YOUR INFORMATION PURPOSES, UH, WE HAVE OUR SCHEDULE CLA OUR 2026 CLASS SCHEDULE FOR OUR GED.

[1:40:01] UM, SO PLEASE TAKE HERE TO THAT. AND LASTLY, UH, NOT LASTLY, BUT NEXT ON OUR, UM, AGENDA, WE HAVE OUR CLOSED SESSION. I'LL NOW TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO MS. PERKINS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOUR MOTION REQUIRED TODAY IS TO CONVENE A CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2 37 11 A 0.8 TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EMPLOYED AND RETAINED BY A PUBLIC BODY REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS INVOLVING ONE MANUFACTURED HOMES AND TWO, DISPOSITION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY IN CONNECTION WITH PROPOSED FINANCING, REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE BY SUCH COUNSEL AND I WILL NEED A MOTION. AND SECOND, THANK YOU FOR THAT MS. PERKINS. BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? SO MOVED. MS. CHAIR. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY SUPERVISOR ELLIOT, SECOND BY VICE CHAIR HARDY THAT WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. UH, I'M NOW ASKED FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE SUPERVISOR. DREW AYE. SUPERVISOR HARDY AYE. SUPERVISOR ELLIOT. AYE. SUPERVISOR SEWARD. AYE MY VOTE IS AYE AS WELL. WE'LL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION ROLL. WE'LL NOW COME BACK INTO OPEN SESSION. I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO MS. PERKINS TO BRING US BACK INTO OPEN SESSION. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. UH, YOUR RESOLUTION CERTIFYING CLOSED SESSION WHEREAS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF SURREY COUNTY HAS CONVENED A CLOSED SESSION ON THE STATE PURSUANT TO AN AFFIRMATIVE RECORDED VOTE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. AND WHEREAS SECTION 2.2 37 12 D OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES A CERTIFICATION BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF SURREY COUNTY, THAT SUCH CLOSED MEETING WAS CONDUCTED IN CONFORMITY WITH VIRGINIA LAW. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF SURREY COUNTY HEREBY CERTIFIES THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY, EXCUSE ME, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS BY VIRGINIA LAW WERE DISCUSSED IN THE CLOSED SESSION TO WHICH THIS CERTIFICATION RESOLUTION APPLIES. AND TWO, ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION CONVENING. THE CLOSED MEETING WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF SURREY COUNTY. AND I'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A ROLL CALL VOTE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MS. PERKINS. BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? SO MOVED. MR. CHAIR. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MR. SUPERVISOR STEWART. SECOND BY SUPERVISOR DREW THAT WE COME BACK INTO OPEN SESSION. WE'LL NOW DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE ON SAID MOTION SUPERVISOR. DREW. AYE. SUPERVISOR HARDY AYE. SUPERVISOR ELLIOT. AYE. SUPERVISOR STEWART? AYE MY VOTE IS AYE AS WELL. WE'RE BACK INTO OPEN SESSION BOARD MEMBERS, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR OUR MEETING TONIGHT. I WILL, UH, NOW ASK FOR A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT FOR OUR AN ADDED REGULAR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, TWO THOU 2026 AT 6:00 PM AT OUR GENERAL DISTRICT COURT. SO MOVED. THIRD, SECOND. SECOND. THIS HAS BEEN MOVED BY SUPERVISOR ELLIOT, SECOND BY SUPERVISOR HARDY, THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED INTO OUR REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING, UH, ADDED REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 17TH. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. WE'LL NOW VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAID MOTION SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE BY SAYING AN AYE AYE. THOSE OPPOSED AYES HAVE IT. SEE YOU ALL ON SEPTEMBER 17TH.